A Stunning Performance by Two Great Guitarists: Martin Miller & Andy Timmons, “Still Got the Blues” (Gary Moore Cover)

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Martin Miller - Guitar & Vocals
Andy Timmons - Guitar
Felix Lehrmann - Drums
Benni Jud - Bass & Vocals
Marius Leicht - Keyboards & Vocals

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Manuel Renner, David Schneider, Martina Blazeska, Daniel Espitia - Cameras
Ulrich Wichmann - Camera Assistant

Audio Mix & Video Edit - Martin Miller

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Label: Virgin
Songwriters: Gary Moore

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375 comments
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makeitstop  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:42:12am

Garry Moore on a Stratocaster Ibanez? BLASPHEMY!! :)

Timmons makes it sound great, though. As usual.

ETA: Miller ain’t no slouch, either. Damn.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:44:33am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:45:35am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Oh fuck you very much Donnie. Wonder if the people who got angry at Pete Davidson will have anything to say about this but nah they just save it for people they perceive as liberals.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:46:34am

BTW Dumbass Trump, we got Osama in Obama’s first term after he was the world’s most wanted man for Bush’s entire presidency and you have some of the same people that were part of his team like Bolton but yeah you know so much better than Admiral McRaven. Fuck you douchebag.

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:48:36am

I knew Trump would be horrible. But it still shocks me how horrible.

After he’s gone, we’ll be left with the people who supported him. Even after all the horribleness. They will forever wear that albatross around their neck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:49:28am

re: #5 BigPapa

I knew Trump would be horrible. But it still shocks me how horrible.

After he’s gone, we’ll be left with the people who supported him. Even after all the horribleness. They will forever wear that albatross around their neck.

You know? The thing that scares me is they may finally someone worse. I thought Bush was the worst the GOP could offer. He wasn’t just like Trump may be replaced by someone even worse.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:51:24am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:51:52am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Absolutely.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:52:15am

And no we shouldn’t “just ignore him.” He’s POTUS.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:53:32am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

re: #8 HappyWarrior

That is exactly the point. And that is probably why I wrote in 2 books over 200 hundred name of registered voters on Election Day.

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:58:44am

Trump’s deranged behavior is a feature, not a bug.

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mmmirele  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:59:06am

littlegreenfootballs.com

Let us not forget that many Evangelical Trumpers think he’s bringing the End Times.

Time for a bit of a rant. What gets me about these people is that they don’t care about how bad it gets, because they believe they have an out. They believe Jesus is going to come back for them in the Rapture before the shit hits the fan. And then they’ll watch us from heaven while we get tortured for 3.5 or 7 years (depending on how you read the chicken entrails that are the apocalyptic works in the Bible) before Jesus comes back for realsies and lays the smack down on us.

The fact that we have so many of these crazies in the highest levels of government should alarm everyone but we don’t even have a discussion about it. *sigh*

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:59:13am

re: #5 BigPapa

I knew Trump would be horrible. But it still shocks me how horrible.

After he’s gone, we’ll be left with the people who supported him. Even after all the horribleness. They will forever wear that albatross around their neck.

And those Trump Jockstraps will go to their graves unrepentant in their love for him because he gladly kicked colored people down!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:59:20am

re: #11 BigPapa

Trump’s deranged behavior is a feature, not a bug.

Yep. It’s a defining characteristic of him.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 11:59:57am

Fuckin’ orange colostomy bag is surly today.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:00:42pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Fuckin’ orange colostomy bag is surly today.

Fuck your stupid wall.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:01:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:02:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:04:15pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:05:16pm

Navy Seals took out Bin Laden on the same night that Obama was at the White House Correspondents Dinner making fun of Donald Trump.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:06:55pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:07:33pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

Navy Seals took out Bin Laden on the same night that Obama was at the White House Correspondents Dinner making fun of Donald Trump.

Obama could multitask.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:10:52pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:11:56pm

re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Thank you Trevor Noah. Those statements are perfect.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:12:01pm

re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Tweet’s law.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:12:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:13:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:13:57pm

You’ll be cryin’
(gotta make sure you have the sound on)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:15:45pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:17:31pm

re: #1 makeitstop

Garry Moore on a Stratocaster Ibanez? BLASPHEMY!! :)

Timmons makes it sound great, though. As usual.

ETA: Miller ain’t no slouch, either. Damn.

I was fortunate to have seen Moore in Thin Lizzy at the time he was filling in on their American tour in ‘77 for Brian Robertson. The speedy double leads were coming at us fast and hard with Moore and Scott Gorham. And Phil Lynott was a rock star, just not enough people knew it.

Moore did a whole album of Hendrix material Blues For Jimi that is pretty good and shows he is a master.

A taste of him doing Jimi.

Gary Moore - The Wind Cries Mary (Blues For Jimi)

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:17:57pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:21:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:24:06pm
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MsJ  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:24:14pm

re: #5 BigPapa

I knew Trump would be horrible. But it still shocks me how horrible.

After he’s gone, we’ll be left with the people who supported him. Even after all the horribleness. They will forever wear that albatross around their neck.

Someday soon we’ll have a very hard time finding people who admitted to having voted for him.

“Who me? No way!”

“Not a chance. I don’t know anyone who voted for him!”

“No idea how he ever won!”

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:25:32pm

re: #34 MsJ

Same thing happened in Germany. After WWII it was very hard to find Germans who admitted they backed the nazis.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:26:05pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

Navy Seals took out Bin Laden on the same night that Obama was at the White House Correspondents Dinner making fun of Donald Trump.

And Trump knows that. It is why he still has a burr up his ass over the WHC Dinner, Obama, all the people in the press that laughed at him.

Also probably why he downplays Obama catching up and taking out Bin Laden. How could he be making fun of Trump (goofing off) and still be responsible for Bin Laden.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:27:04pm

re: #36 ObserverArt

The orange anus will never be 1/1000th the man Obama is. And he knows it.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:27:07pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:27:09pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You’ll be cryin’
(gotta make sure you have the sound on)

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The Dodo on YouTube is pretty much my only reason to keep on living any more….

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MsJ  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:27:37pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

Obama could multitask.

Trump can’t even single task. Fucking moron.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:28:08pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Exactly. David Duke. Glenn Beck. Richard Spencer. How low can Republicans go?

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Jay C  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:29:17pm

re: #41 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. David Duke. Glenn Beck. Richard Spencer. How low can Republicans go?

Don’t tempt them…..

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:29:25pm

re: #41 Patricia Kayden

I do not want to go there.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:29:36pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You’ll be cryin’
(gotta make sure you have the sound on)

Just watched that on the side bar. Those talkative Malamutes.

Looked like a nice day, why would a good doggo want to leave a park?

Stupid humans, they never get that.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:30:11pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Same thing happened in Germany. After WWII it was very hard to find Germans who admitted they backed the nazis.

Just like it’s hard to find Republicans who supported Bush the 43rd. He and Cheney aren’t even invited to Republican conventions.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:30:22pm
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makeitstop  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:31:05pm

re: #30 ObserverArt

I was fortunate to have seen Moore in Thin Lizzy at the time he was filling in on their American tour in ‘77 for Brian Robertson. The speedy double leads were coming at us fast and hard with Moore and Scott Gorham. And Phil Lynott was a rock star, just not enough people knew it.

I loved Phil. I got to meet him on the Chinatown tour and tagged along on a few dates.

He told a story about how he was on a talk show with Sean Connery and Rodney Dangerfield (for some reason he kept calling him Roger Dangerfield), and none of the three of them could understand what the other two were saying. The idea was funny enough, but to hear him tell it was beyond hilarious.

I’ve still got a signed copy of his book of poems, and a single of ‘Jingle Bells’ that he did in a one-off band called The Greedies with Scott Gorham and Cook and Jones from the Sex Pistols.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:31:12pm

re: #45 Patricia Kayden

Just like it’s hard to find Republicans who supported Bush the 43rd. He and Cheney aren’t even invited to Republican conventions.

Liz Cheney is rising through the ranks of the leadership though.

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:31:38pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

“For the serial killer who has everything…”

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:31:56pm

re: #32 jaunte

Can someone please tell him that Mueller’s position doesn’t require approval by the Senate? Anyone? Please?!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:32:06pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:33:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:33:52pm

re: #31 jaunte

She’s doing it wrong!! He said rake not vacuum!

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gwangung  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:37:16pm

Anybody else see this from the California Chaparral Institute?

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:38:57pm

re: #54 gwangung

A pop-up keeps asking me to sign up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:39:03pm

Well, they’ve gone international

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:40:38pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

And no we shouldn’t “just ignore him.” He’s POTUS.

How are we supposed to ignore the most powerful man in the country if not the world? We pay attention and resist.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:44:26pm

re: #57 Patricia Kayden

How are we supposed to ignore the most powerful man in the country if not the world? We pay attention and resist.

Yeah I don’t get why people think this is a serious suggestion. You just don’t ignore the President of the United States.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:46:51pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:48:12pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is an excellent example of what DT is trying to destroy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:48:24pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep. Immigration benefits the country.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:48:44pm

re: #60 PhillyPretzel

That is an excellent example of what DT is trying to destroy.

He flat out doesn’t understand what makes our country great. He never has.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:51:05pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In the White House, we went from a Rhodes Scholar to Dumbya to an editor of the Harvard Law Review to tRump. These swings are becoming dangerously wide.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:51:29pm

re: #63 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

In the White House, we went from a Rhodes Scholar to Dumbya to an editor of the Harvard Law Review to tRump. These swings are becoming dangerously wide.

Sigh.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:53:17pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:56:19pm

re: #65 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I am not going to take any side in that argument.

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fern01  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:56:30pm

While trump has been ignoring problems at home, his sometimes bf Pence has been following his lead outside of the country.
APEC 2018: US-China clash at regional meeting leads to historic summit failure

“Deep divisions between the United States and China have derailed the APEC meeting in Port Moresby, with regional leaders failing to agree on a final communique for the first time in the summit’s history.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 12:57:23pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

I am not going to take any side in that argument.

I’m pretty supportive of the prison argument

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:00:13pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If it were someone in this chat I would recommend that they head to Cooks Illustrated but since it is not I will keep quiet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:00:27pm

re: #63 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

In the White House, we went from a Rhodes Scholar to Dumbya to an editor of the Harvard Law Review to tRump. These swings are becoming dangerously wide.

Worth noting that the Rhodes Scholar and Editor were both self made too and not products of privilege like the other two.

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NetworkKed  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:00:27pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m pretty supportive of the prison argument

I fear there is a fundamental misunderstanding of macaroni and cheese happening here.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:02:31pm

Greens beans in mac & cheese < peas in guacamole?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:03:25pm

re: #72 jaunte

Greens beans in mac & cheese < peas in guacamole?

Oui.

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:03:55pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

People who say “it’s a distraction from the real issues” when Trump tweets something awful are kind of missing the point. EVERYTHING he does is a distraction. He’s a con man. That’s what con men do

Because there is no there, there

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:05:17pm

re: #13 Joe Bacon 🌹

And those Trump Jockstraps will go to their graves unrepentant in their love for him because he gladly kicked colored people down!

Exactly
He hates who I hate, is their defining connection

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:06:31pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

Obama could multitask.

And look good in a tux doing it

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:07:22pm

I hate Facebook. What a fuckin’ racket. They give you about 5% control over your own feed, and if you want to change things, you have to jump through frivolous hoops with like three windows that say “ARE YOU SURE?!?” I would delete my account right now if it were’t such the behemoth that it is, there’s too many actual valuable human connections and I can’t just jettison them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:07:50pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You’ll be cryin’
(gotta make sure you have the sound on)

Is this the same dog that won’t get out of the bathtub?

Stubborn Husky throws hilarious temper tantrum

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:11:01pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Same thing happened in Germany. After WWII it was very hard to find Germans who admitted they backed the nazis.

Nixon won 49 states and no one would admit it…after

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uriel  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:14:39pm

re: #72 jaunte

Greens beans in mac & cheese < peas in guacamole?

If you zoom in, you’ll see that that’s actually the macaroni- the lighting just sucks. Also, food photography is hard.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:15:17pm

Jeez. Wasn’t there a story just a day or so ago that Dershowitz was getting paid by a Mercer’s anti-Muslim group also?

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:16:14pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get why people think this is a serious suggestion. You just don’t ignore the President of the United States.

Still I wonder if there’s a way to not give his every crackpot insane or ludicrous tweet oxygen and legitimacy.

Even outright mocking gives them legs and keeps them alive
And all the rubes remember is what he said…why aren’t we raking

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Dave In Austin  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:16:23pm

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:16:53pm

re: #83 Dave In Austin

rofl.

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sagehen  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:17:21pm

re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, they’ve gone international

Are those American fascists protesting in Mexico?

I wonder how well they’d hold up in Mexican jails.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:20:05pm

NYT “Are Jared & Ivanka Good For The Jews?”
VB: Az Och Un Vay (Yiddish for “In A Pig’s Eye”)

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Jay C  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:21:47pm

re: #83 Dave In Austin

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Needs a rake…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:25:34pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

NYT “Are Jared & Ivanka Good For The Jews?”
VB: Az Och Un Vay (Yiddish for “In A Pig’s Eye”)

They’re not good for anyone but themselves.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:26:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:27:06pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

Now there’s someone who should get a monument.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:27:39pm

I haven’t seen video of Smith’s injury yet. I don’t want to, I saw Theismann’s on TV live

Oh yeah, Joe’s thoughts

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:27:43pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:29:06pm

Is the NY Times Good For America???

(By the way…is that Javanka crap really in the ‘style’ section of the Times? I got the page blocker before I could see the article completely.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:29:38pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I haven’t seen video of Smith’s injury yet. I don’t want to, I saw Theismann’s on TV live

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:30:24pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I haven’t seen video of Smith’s injury yet. I don’t want to, I saw Theismann’s on TV live

Poor guy. Smith is a really good dude too. I don’t like Washington at all but that’s a terrible injury for anyone. Best wishes to a full recovery for Alex.

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:32:42pm

re: #79 dangerman

Nixon won 49 states and no one would admit it…after

I can damned tootin’ tell you that I voted against him! For True!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:32:54pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Poor guy. Smith is a really good dude too. I don’t like Washington at all but that’s a terrible injury for anyone. Best wishes to a full recovery for Alex.

All I know is that who ever is Washington’s QB in 33 years, he should take Nov. 18th off

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:35:27pm

OK, what’s Dotard gonna say about this?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:37:03pm

re: #85 sagehen

Are those American fascists protesting in Mexico?

I wonder how well they’d hold up in Mexican jails.

All of them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:40:39pm

re: #97 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

All I know is that who ever is Washington’s QB in 33 years, he should take Nov. 18th off

I checked the date because I was curious. November 18, 2051 is a Saturday. So he’s safe with the schedule as it is now but he better watch out. That’s a freaky coincidence.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:42:49pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, what’s Dotard gonna say about this?

Probably either ignore it, childish name calling, or act like he’s done more than Bloomberg. I don’t honestly like Bloomberg that much but this is commendable.

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:43:15pm

re: #96 retired cynic

I can damned tootin’ tell you that I voted against him! For True!

Woulda
I was a tad too young

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:47:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:52:00pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

I hate Facebook. What a fuckin’ racket. They give you about 5% control over your own feed, and if you want to change things, you have to jump through frivolous hoops with like three windows that say “ARE YOU SURE?!?” I would delete my account right now if it were’t such the behemoth that it is, there’s too many actual valuable human connections and I can’t just jettison them.

Telephones, mail, Skype, E-mail, &c. Facebook convinces people that Facebook is necessary. It is not.

You can keep contact with every last person you follow on Facebook without Facebook.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:52:24pm

re: #72 jaunte

Greens beans in mac & cheese < peas in guacamole?

It started with pineapple…

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:53:39pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

Going to have to disagree. Not all of us can be Ben Franklin and write everyone we know at all hours of the day.

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:53:55pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
Who is paying for that tedious Smokey Bear commercial that is on all the time - enough already

And that boys and girls is what’s called a “tell”
“On all the time”. How would a real president know?

And is there no one with guts enough to stifle this moran?
The country would reward you for sure

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:54:23pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Who is paying for that tedious Smokey Bear commercial that is on all the time - enough already!

Smokey is the one who does all the raking.

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:55:18pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

That was the movie that Anymouse went to auditions for when the Coens were filming it in his neck of the woods, IIRC.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:57:13pm

There’s nothing wrong with technology connecting people, it’s a great leap in human evolution. And right now, Facebook is the de facto social media, whether we like it or not. I think things can change, it’ll take time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:57:49pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

Going to have to disagree. Not all of us can be Ben Franklin and write everyone we know at all hours of the day.

Telephones, Skype were also mentioned in there. And if you’re keeping contact on Facebook, you’re writing (unless it uses some sort of text-to-speech transcribing system).

It is no more work to write an E-mail than it is a Facebook post.

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sagehen  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:57:55pm

re: #79 dangerman

Nixon won 49 states and no one would admit it…after

My family supported him vigorously… right up until the day the tapes were released. My dad cried. (“say it ain’t so, Dick, say it ain’t so!!”)

I still have mixed feelings about him; sure he was a crook who had to go, but he’s also EPA and OSHA and Title IX and Title X and… well, that has to mitigate at least some portion of his demerits.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:58:54pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

OK, Mr. Pedant. Sorry. I’ll stop using Facebook immediately and just email everybody, and Skype even though I don’t have the equipment.

FOH

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:59:04pm

re: #109 TedStriker

That was the movie that Anymouse went to auditions for when the Coens were filming it in his neck of the woods, IIRC.

Yup. As I mentioned yesterday, they filmed it here because of the vast area here with no anachronisms such as roads or electric wires.

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:59:23pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

Smokey is the one who does all the raking.

Actually isn’t it the US forest service? iow trumps own admin

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 1:59:52pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

OK, Mr. Pedant. Sorry. I’ll stop using Facebook immediately and just email everybody, and Skype even though I don’t have the equipment.

FOH

Ok then, I’ll drop it, though I would mention that whatever you’re using to connect to Facebook will also allow you to write E-mail.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:00:42pm

re: #115 dangerman

I think that tweet predates Donny’s run for office.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:00:46pm

re: #115 dangerman

Actually isn’t it the US forest service? iow trumps own admin

I think you guys are ignoring the date on that tweet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:02:13pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:02:46pm

re: #115 dangerman

Actually isn’t it the US forest service? iow trumps own admin

Smokey has worked for the USFS since they found him as an orphan…at least that’s the story. Might be a cub separation policy here….

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:03:23pm

re: #118 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think you guys are ignoring the date on that tweet.

Yeah I don’t always check for details or context

Still I guess we know what he was doing with his time back then

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A Mom Anon  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:05:24pm

re: #121 dangerman

Well, he’s never worked a day in his life and hasn’t matured beyond elementary school, so at least he’s consistent about something.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:07:54pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

There’s nothing wrong with technology connecting people, it’s a great leap in human evolution. And right now, Facebook is the de facto social media, whether we like it or not. I think things can change, it’ll take time.

I’m with you Ski. I see FB’s flaws but it’s proven very useful in getting me connected with people especially in my genealogical research. Also a great way to see tons of photos quickly. Mark Zuckerberg is a dick no doubt but so was Edison. If you don’t like FB, don’t use it. Simple as that imo.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:09:24pm

Here’s What Your Part Of America Eats On Thanksgiving

Nate Silver did a survey of people in different regions of the USA, asking what the most common side-dish at a Thanksgiving dinner is in their households.

I guess we fit the Great Lakes stereotype (since my wife and I are originally from there).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:11:53pm

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

Ok then, I’ll drop it, though I would mention that whatever you’re using to connect to Facebook will also allow you to write E-mail.

Email doesn’t have real time chat which is very helpful. We had no idea how to contact one of my cousins when I heard her father died, I found her on FB and we’ve gotten to each other through that platform. Even met up for coffee when I was in her neck of the woods and we exchanged stories about our grandmothers and aunts/uncles. Would never have been able to do that without Facebook. Same thing with my dad’s cousins who helped me so much learn more about my dads father’s family. You don’t like FB and that’s fine but it’s not useless as a platform.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:12:59pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Problem is that people use it as a source of news. The only thing it’s good for is keeping up with friends and family.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:13:13pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

Nate Silver has not seen my Thanksgiving meal. Chicken Pot Pie from DiBruno Brothers. I do not like to cook for a holiday when I am alone.
dibruno.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:14:14pm

Never would have met my Slovenian cousin without FB too so that’s another plus. Social media is just like any emerging technology. I’m certain that the emergence of telephones had people decrying the decline of the written letter too. Won’t argue with anyone who thinks Zuck is a jerk but his platform works in a lot of ways that go beyond simple communication.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:16:23pm

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Problem is that people use it as a source of news. The only thing it’s good for is keeping up with friends and family.

That’s not necessarily true though. It’s great for upcoming musicians and businesses. I agree it shouldn’t be used as a news source but I think you overestimate how it’s used. Often I’ll find a link via the WaPo or ESPN or whatever and post it. But I’ve never known anyone who considers FB their primary source of news.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:16:44pm

My friends and cousins post pic of their life/kids on FB. Without it I couldn’t keep track of their lives. I will no apologize for using it, but I do think it, and other large social networks, should be regulated.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:17:23pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

I hate Facebook. What a fuckin’ racket. They give you about 5% control over your own feed, and if you want to change things, you have to jump through frivolous hoops with like three windows that say “ARE YOU SURE?!?” I would delete my account right now if it were’t such the behemoth that it is, there’s too many actual valuable human connections and I can’t just jettison them.

And all because I tagged you! I’m so sorry! LOL! It won’t happen again. FB does make things harder and harder, and yes, I’d get rid of it, too, but I’ve built relationships with a lot of people over the years that I can’t let go.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:17:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:20:04pm

re: #130 I Would Prefer Not To

My friends and cousins post pic of their life/kids on FB. Without it I couldn’t keep track of their lives. I will no apologize for using it, but I do think it, and other large social networks, should be regulated.

No doubt it should be. And yeah I’ve seen my cousins’ children in the UK grow up. I’m shy on the phone so I love real time chat.FB is part of why I’m so tight with one of my cousins. We didn’t grow up together given she’s nineteen years older but when FB became open to all over 14, she joined and we’re really tight. FB has helped keep my family in touch just like our Nana wanted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:20:58pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

That’s not necessarily true though. It’s great for upcoming musicians and businesses. I agree it shouldn’t be used as a news source but I think you overestimate how it’s used. Often I’ll find a link via the WaPo or ESPN or whatever and post it. But I’ve never known anyone who considers FB their primary source of news.

People rely on as a source of news about politics and current events, for which it is easily manipulated.

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plansbandc  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:20:59pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn.

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:22:49pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Fraser Mason, who needed reconstructive surgery on her face, filed for divorce two days after the incident. The divorce case is still pending

That was August 2014

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:23:22pm

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People rely on as a source of news about politics and current events, for which it is easily manipulated.

Right. But is reading a WaPo article on FB any different than sitting down in a coffee shop and reading it. I agree. No one should use it that way but I think that’s more a consequence of how quickly we receive news in real time these days.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:24:59pm

For the Wholigans out there.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:25:34pm
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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:28:10pm

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

Ok then, I’ll drop it, though I would mention that whatever you’re using to connect to Facebook will also allow you to write E-mail.

It’s more than that. It’s hard to email every single person. With FB, one can stay in touch with numerous people and see what is going on in their lives and it’s easy to keep others posted on you and your life. I’m in a few secret communities on FB that helped me through deaths, my daughter, my divorce, etc. I wouldn’t have gotten that with just email. I wouldn’t have ever met many of these incredible people without it. It allowed me to know that an online friend and her son needed help when she was sent home on hospice to die. I needed to meet her in person and I had the skills to take care of her and actually do something for her. That never would have happened without FB.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:29:11pm

Personally I find social media incredible in that it in a lot of ways brings us closer. I believe Ski has talked about getting replies on Twitter from musicians and or skiers he likes. That’s really cool imo. When I was a kid not even that long ago, people in the spotlight felt more distant. It’s not like that now. And as I’ve said helps so much with genealogical stuff. I’ve met cousins from three different countries who I would have never met otherwise without modern social media platforms. It’s unfortunate that it’s used for negative reasons but we didn’t stop phone calls as people used it for threats nor did we film after the Nazis used it as a propaganda outlet. Regulate absolutely.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:29:35pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

JFC.

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dangerman  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:33:23pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hey nbc why do they have to be “feminist” antifacists?
Isn’t antifascist enough?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:38:51pm

This Escape at Dannemora sounds really good.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:45:10pm

re: #140 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I suppose it goes to the way some approach the Internet versus other people.

It’s more than that. It’s hard to email every single person.

BCC: line of an E-mail. Put in one, two, one hundred E-mail addresses. If you want all of them to know what you’re writing, the To: or CC: lines will work for that.

With FB, one can stay in touch with numerous people and see what is going on in their lives and it’s easy to keep others posted on you and your life.

As are all those other methods I mentioned.

I’m in a few secret communities on FB that helped me through deaths, my daughter, my divorce, etc. I wouldn’t have gotten that with just email. I wouldn’t have ever met many of these incredible people without it. It allowed me to know that an online friend and her son needed help when she was sent home on hospice to die. I needed to meet her in person and I had the skills to take care of her and actually do something for her. That never would have happened without FB.

I am also on “secret” platforms (and not so secret ones) that have helped me with things (including the recent death of my sister-in-law), none of which are Facebook.

I received support here when my sister-in-law was dying, and with my step-father in the hospital now. (He went back to the hospital last night.)

I will certainly grant that Facebook is the eight hundred pound gorilla as far as connecting people goes … you can seek information from a whole lot of people very quickly there. But the idea that something could “never happen without Facebook” seems to be a bit much.

I’ll leave off about Facebook.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:47:32pm

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹

I’ll leave off about Facebook.

You already said that. You lied.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:48:06pm

re: #143 dangerman

Hey nbc why do they have to be “feminist” antifacists?
Isn’t antifascist enough?

The “titillating” video they used of women without tops means of course the whole anti-fascist protest was “feminist.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:49:44pm

re: #146 teleskiguy

You already said that. You lied.

Well, another comment came in and I responded to it.

Perhaps it would be better if I left off LGF for awhile instead … anyway, I have other stuff to do. Catch y’all later.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:51:23pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Heartbreaking and terrifying. May she R.I.P.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:52:26pm

I know nuance and context can be hard to decipher at times when you’re just reading words on a screen. Thing is, I get the impression that if I don’t do something a certain way or that I use Facebook I’m somehow lesser and that I am unaware of the great other multitudes of communication at my dispersal, and that makes me dumb.

FOH

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:53:11pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

Well, another comment came in and I responded to it.

Perhaps it would be better if I left off LGF for awhile instead … anyway, I have other stuff to do. Catch y’all later.

Ah shit. The two drama llamas are arguing again. Chill dudes.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:56:35pm

re: #151 William Lewis

Ah shit. The two drama llamas are arguing again. Chill dudes.

“I wanna ride my llama from Peru to Texarkana”

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:57:11pm

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Problem is that people use it as a source of news. The only thing it’s good for is keeping up with friends and family.

I think that is where the wheels fall off. And that would be making money off the people that are members by using it for commercial ends.

As a social idea Facebook is fine. But Zuckerberg couldn’t stop there, though he/they probably never intended it to be any other way.

They saw it as a huge human database to be used, they just sold it as “social” when it really is “commercial” and uses the social aspect to collect the data.

Would they ever have been able to sign up all those people if right up front they said: You can keep in contact with other users, but all of your data will be recorded, saved, used to sell to commercial, news, education and political entities?

Even though that is all in that huge “I accept the terms” text that no one reads.

Seems like it will eventually end up being regulated, but there is going to be a huge fight to do that.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:58:17pm

re: #151 William Lewis

What do you think of Facebook?

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 2:59:41pm

So sorry about sharing my positive experience with FB that I simply wouldn’t get from any other means. Won’t bring it up again. Geesh.

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makeitstop  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:01:46pm

Good question. And the possibility for a multitude of bad answers.

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Interesting Times  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:02:22pm

Is Decatur Deb still around? Looks like a neighboring state could use his GOTV help :)

GOP’s Mississippi Senate candidate is in real trouble

Her handlers are telling her just to shut it for a another two weeks. Meanwhile, the NRSC is now being forced to spend $700,000 for an ad buy in freaking Mississippi. Cindy has zero accomplishments, so the ads will focus on attacking her Democratic opponent. (I can guarantee they will be very ugly. …
Besides the ad buy, Trump is holding not one, but two separate rallies right before the special election on Tuesday, November 27.

Why is the GOP so worried? Cuz this:

Espy remains the underdog in the conservative state, but Republicans with access to private polling say Hyde-Smith’s lead has narrowed significantly in recent days.

Dem strategists say Mike Espy only needs roughly 30% of the white vote, and the candidate is going hard after the demographic that strongly rejected Trump this past election—suburban women. His campaign, Rise Above, has been a very positive contrast over Cindy Hyde-Smith’s.
…
“It turned the whole thing upside down … I knew who I was going to vote for before this. Now I don’t,” said a man named William, a white Republican and self-described “Trumpster” who voted for Hyde-Smith two weeks ago. He declined to provide his last name because he didn’t want to publicly disclose he was considering voting for a Democrat. “Mike Espy is a good guy. Nothing wrong with him.”

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:04:13pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Never would have met my Slovenian cousin without FB too so that’s another plus. Social media is just like any emerging technology. I’m certain that the emergence of telephones had people decrying the decline of the written letter too. Won’t argue with anyone who thinks Zuck is a jerk but his platform works in a lot of ways that go beyond simple communication.

Happy, I think you are making a comparison that doesn’t work.

No one opened letters and made copies and stored them for use by others to use.

And when phones started, no one recorded all the conversations and stored them for others to use.

Though now with cell phones, you probably do have everything recorded.

There is this word people used to both be very aware of and protective of and that is privacy.

Seems people don’t care about that anymore, or are not really that aware of how their privacy is impacted by Facebook.

Can that word be used with Facebook?

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:05:39pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

Happy, I think you are making a comparison that doesn’t work.

No one opened letters and made copies and stored them for use by others to use.

And when phones started, no one recorded all the conversations and stored them for others to use.

Though now with cell phones, you probably do have everything recorded.

There is this word people used to both be very aware of and protective of and that is privacy.

Seems people don’t care about that anymore, or are not really that aware of how their privacy is impacted by Facebook.

Can that word be used with Facebook?

I can tell you that anything I say on FB I’d say in person. Some of you have seen my posts and I don’t hold punches. I don’t do it on FB and I don’t do it in my real life.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:06:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:08:31pm

re: #157 Interesting Times

Come through, Espy!! It would be great if he beat that dried up racist.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:08:53pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

Here’s What Your Part Of America Eats On Thanksgiving

Nate Silver did a survey of people in different regions of the USA, asking what the most common side-dish at a Thanksgiving dinner is in their households.

I guess we fit the Great Lakes stereotype (since my wife and I are originally from there).

*Checks chart*

“Mac & Cheese”? Seems legit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:08:53pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

Happy, I think you are making a comparison that doesn’t work.

No one opened letters and made copies and stored them for use by others to use.

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And when phones started, no one recorded all the conversations and stored them for others to use.

Though now with cell phones, you probably do have everything recorded.

There is this word people used to both be very aware of and protective of and that is privacy.

Seems people don’t care about that anymore, or are not really that aware of how their privacy is impacted by Facebook.

Can that word be used with Facebook?

Fair enough but my point is any type of communication is going to have its pitfalls and frankly with respect to AM, I think he doesn’t understand how FB’s format helps people like myself who definitely are more shy in phone calls or more conventional matters of communication. I’m not saying FB shouldn’t be regulated. I’m saying the poo-pooing it gets really old especially from someone who has by their own admission not had an account. By all means regulate the hell out of it, I don’t mind that as an idea but to act like it does no positive social good is being short sighted IMO. And we did have to put regulations into place for letters and phones too. There’s a reason why it’s a federal offense to mess with someone’s mail and correspondence.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:10:12pm

re: #159 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

I can tell you that anything I say on FB I’d say in person. Some of you have seen my posts and I don’t hold punches. I don’t do it on FB and I don’t do it in my real life.

I honestly feel more comfortable on FB and social media. I’ve grown more comfortable in face to face interactions but I remain pretty shy in person. It’s just how I am but social media allows me to find my voice so to speak better because I can slow down and think.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:11:20pm

re: #157 Interesting Times

Is Decatur Deb still around? Looks like a neighboring state could use his GOTV help :)

GOP’s Mississippi Senate candidate is in real trouble

30% of the white vote sounds easy enough but it’s MS. That said, I feel better about this one than I did. I think Espy’s going to be competitive and I think he could definitely win.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:11:26pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

Anybody who chooses to post things on the Internet has to assume the risk of loss of privacy. Fortunately folks have figured these things out, but it takes work. It takes a working knowledge of how things get disseminated online, it takes careful curating of online content, it takes a more-than-rudimentary scrutiny of your own online content. Most regular readers here at LGF know my real name, but I’d like to think my privacy is fair, because I take those steps.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:13:05pm

If Hyde-Smith was a man I think she’d win regardless. As it stands, I still think she’ll win. There’s not enough people in this state who will hold their nose and vote Democrat.

I hope I’m wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:13:33pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

Anybody who chooses to post things on the Internet has to assume the risk of loss of privacy. Fortunately folks have figured these things out, but it takes work. It takes a working knowledge of how things get disseminated online, it takes careful curating of online content, it takes a more-than-rudimentary scrutiny of your own online content. Most regular readers here at LGF know my real name, but I’d like to think my privacy is fair, because I take those steps.

Yep I know your real name but I don’t know things like your address or your social. I too used my real name when I was first online. I’ve stopped doing that and my FB is pretty secure. There’s always this risk but there’s also choice too. As I said, by all means regulate it but the problem isn’t FB in itself but rather that we as humans in 2018 have more access to information than any other generation. Now there are advantages and disadvantages that come with that in themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:14:14pm

re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg

If Hyde-Smith was a man I think she’d win regardless. As it stands, I still think she’ll win. There’s not enough people in this state who will hold their nose and vote Democrat.

I hope I’m wrong.

I hope you are too. You never know though. That said, Espy is definitely the underdog here. I don’t think MS has had a Democratic senator in my lifetime.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:14:16pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

*Checks chart*

“Mac & Cheese”? Seems legit.

Mashed potatoes? Where are those?!?!

My grandmother was born and raised in Kansas. She was French-Canadian. One thing that was always done at Thanksgiving is what she called “potato dressing.” It consisted of mashed potatoes mixed with gizzards that had been run through a meat grinder and cooked a long time with chopped onions and poultry seasoning. I don’t like innards, but I loved that potato dressing. Unfortunately, the only people in my family who like it are my uncle and me and we haven’t had Thanksgiving together in years.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:15:06pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I participate in politics on Twitter, along with skiing and music and such. I put my own name on it. It’s honest.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:16:10pm

Our Thanksgiving is typically: turkey, green bean cassarole with onion strings, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, rolls, stuffing, and cranberry sauce with apple and pumpkin pie for dessert. We don’t do Mac and Cheese which is a shame because I love homemade mac and cheese.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:16:12pm

re: #160 Patricia Kayden

The President’s emotional and intellectual development stopped in 1958.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:18:38pm

re: #171 teleskiguy

I participate in politics on Twitter, along with skiing and music and such. I put my own name on it. It’s honest.

I’m a little reticent about it but then again I do use my own name on FB to contribute to discussions on sports, genealogy, and on the pages of the policy stuff I get from the SPLC. But I don’t feel unsecure. I think TBH we’re seeing a little bit of a generation gap on this in a way. I’ve had a FB account for 95% of FB’s existence and it’s never caused me any worry. I do think it should be regulated and there are fair criticisms but that’s life. I think the good outweighs the bad.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:18:50pm

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The President’s emotional and intellectual development stopped in 1958.

BC or AD?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:21:06pm

re: #157 Interesting Times

Is Decatur Deb still around? Looks like a neighboring state could use his GOTV help :)

GOP’s Mississippi Senate candidate is in real trouble

I have little confidence.
The other republican in the (special) general election got over 16% of the vote. Turnout for the run off election will be dismal. The normal Senate race in Miss. (normal schedule) broke 59-39 for the republican candidate last week.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:22:07pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Our Thanksgiving is typically: turkey, green bean cassarole with onion strings, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, rolls, stuffing, and cranberry sauce with apple and pumpkin pie for dessert. We don’t do Mac and Cheese which is a shame because I love homemade mac and cheese.

With the exception of the green bean casserole, that’s pretty much a typical Thanksgiving meal as far back as I remember. About the only variation is when my grandmother would make her version of broccoli casserole or one of the in-laws brought dessert. And yeah, homemade mac and cheese is good stuff, provided it’s the real deal and not the “experiments” I’ve been seeing on twitter and facebook. Goldfish crackers? Green beans? Can we just not “white folk” for one day, please?

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plansbandc  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:22:33pm

We traditionally had these sides: stuffing, mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce, broccoli casserole or green bean casserole, sweet potatoes of some sort, and assorted olives and pickles. Never had mac and cheese or salad. Kind of a shame, really. And we had pumpkin pie and mincemeat pie. My dad and grandma were the only ones who liked mincemeat pie. Yuck.

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freetoken  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:24:07pm

re: #178 plansbandc

Trying to remember when I was young… we never had a macaroni and cheese dish. Ever.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:24:08pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

With the exception of the green bean casserole, that’s pretty much a typical Thanksgiving meal as far back as I remember. About the only variation is when my grandmother would make her version of broccoli casserole or one of the in-laws brought dessert. And yeah, homemade mac and cheese is good stuff, provided it’s the real deal and not the “experiments” I’ve been seeing on twitter and facebook. Goldfish crackers? Green beans? Can we just not “white folk” for one day, please?

Oh yeah real Mac and Cheese. Not the fails to be experimental. I forgot but we do a jello salad too. But yeah ours is pretty typical. I really want to try a turducken eventually because I don’t get duck nearly enough in my diet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:24:40pm

re: #179 freetoken

Trying to remember when I was young… we never had a macaroni and cheese dish. Ever.

I think the Mac and Cheese is really regional and somewhat cultural too. I know a lot of African-American families who Mac and Cheese as well as collared greens too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:24:50pm

On FB about the only true thing is my name and where I went to school.
My birthdate is fake, as well as other info, and they do not have my phone number.
I ignore all news and sponsored content.
So, FB might be making money, but it’s not from me clicking on anything. And whoever is buying my personal info is getting rooked with generally fake info.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:25:50pm

re: #178 plansbandc

We traditionally had these sides: stuffing, mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce, broccoli casserole or green bean casserole, sweet potatoes of some sort, and assorted olives and pickles. Never had mac and cheese or salad. Kind of a shame, really. And we had pumpkin pie and mincemeat pie. My dad and grandma were the only ones who liked mincemeat pie. Yuck.

Olives and pickles? That’s a first. I haven’t had Mincemeat pie in forever. I think there’s someone in my family who has a passionate hatred for it or rhubarb but I forgot if it was my Dad or Grandpa.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:31:05pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

I use a fake name on Facebook (Wen Hui Wang). I guess the one true thing they have on me is my birthday. FB doesn’t know where I live, went to school, where I worked, my phone number, none of that shit. As far as news, every now and again I might see something that’s important to the ski world, and all the family stuff. FB is *the last* place where I get news.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:31:07pm

Don’t you have to use your real name and address to create a Facebook account?

I’m not talking about screen names and all that once you have the account.

How hard is it for a computer to link your “private” sign-up with all of your data?

There is the what you see online as far as privacy settings and the confidence it gives you.

But in the background and what we have learned about Facebook, do you trust them to not be able to link who you really are with all your data and all your communications and then figure in who all you communicate with is really too?

I bet Facebook could print out a report that would send shivers down most people with what they know.

And don’t forget, they have admitted they connect to your phone and record who all you communicate with and then use that to further build your life record.

And if they can do that, they can take those names and phone numbers go back in to their database and link through your name all those others and build database on all kinds of things.

What other ways do they reach out into other databases and build and build the data. How about your school records, medical records, police records, voter registrations, other social networks, etc.? Maybe they don’t do that now, but they could if asked by a court order.

I am not trying to sound like a conspiracy nut or trash people that use Facebook. I find it all fascinating because I don’t use “observer” in my name for no reason.

I love observing the human experience. And Facebook is a powerful tool that impacts that experience.

I am also a freedom lover. And I worry some of this stuff takes away from that freedom when they are working unknown in the background as they proved with the 2016 election.

And then there is the what we don’t know thing that Zuckerberg is just fine not telling anyone about.

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plansbandc  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:31:30pm

Ah yes, we did sometimes have some sort of jello creation too. My mother made one that had raspberries and seven up in it. Kinda delicious. :D

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:33:41pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:33:50pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

That all comes back to what I said, *how* one conducts themselves online. You can give your whole life away to Facebook and they can do whatever, or you don’t. I don’t, and keep in mind the ‘don’t’ part is kind of on a spectrum.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:34:43pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:35:48pm

OK, how about some more Condi Rice, Head Coach of the Cleveland Browns tweets?

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:36:34pm

re: #178 plansbandc

We traditionally had these sides: stuffing, mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce, broccoli casserole or green bean casserole, sweet potatoes of some sort, and assorted olives and pickles. Never had mac and cheese or salad. Kind of a shame, really. And we had pumpkin pie and mincemeat pie. My dad and grandma were the only ones who liked mincemeat pie. Yuck.

Mincemeat pie. YUM!

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:37:41pm

re: #190 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, how about some more Condi Rice, Head Coach of the Cleveland Browns tweets?

Well, at least some are having some political fun with the Coach Condi thing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:37:55pm

One good I like that a lot of people dislike is licorice. Don’t get the hatred at all.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:38:23pm
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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:39:40pm

Traditional Thanksgiving when my grandmother was doing it: Turkey and homemade gravy, mashed potatoes, potato stuffing, homemade bread stuffing, some sort of green vegetable (peas or green beans, but not that green bean casserole crap), celery with peanut butter, olives, jellied cranberry sauce, maybe some dinner rolls, but not sure about that. Dessert was always pumpkin pie. When my grandpa became diabetic, my mom figured out how to make a sugar-free pumpkin pie. When my dad stopped eating fat, we figured out how to just put pumpkin pie filling made with fat-free condensed milk and egg substitute into individual baking dishes (frankly, that’s my favorite because I prefer the filling more than the crust).

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:41:19pm

re: #191 retired cynic

Mincemeat pie. YUM!

I have never had mincemeat pie. I don’t even know if it has meat or not in it. It just sounds icky!

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:45:06pm

re: #188 teleskiguy

That all comes back to what I said, *how* one conducts themselves online. You can give your whole life away to Facebook and they can do whatever, or you don’t. I don’t, and keep in mind the ‘don’t’ part is kind of on a spectrum.

I’m not on facebook or twitter, but right now I have 58 emails in my spam folder, with my initials, last name and city (sent to an email address that doesn’t have any of that) from HOT WOMEN WHO WANT TO BE MY F*CKBUDDIES!! (complete with 8 million emojis).

Sigh—such is life.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:45:07pm

re: #196 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

I have never had mincemeat pie. I don’t even know if it has meat or not in it. It just sounds icky!

Did at one time, not any more. It’s nicely spiced up fruit, including raisins.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:45:56pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

Don’t you have to use your real name and address to create a Facebook account?

I’m not talking about screen names and all that once you have the account.

How hard is it for a computer to link your “private” sign-up with all of your data?

There is the what you see online as far as privacy settings and the confidence it gives you.

But in the background and what we have learned about Facebook, do you trust them to not be able to link who you really are with all your data and all your communications and then figure in who all you communicate with is really too?

I bet Facebook could print out a report that would send shivers down most people with what they know.

And don’t forget, they have admitted they connect to your phone and record who all you communicate with and then use that to further build your life record.

And if they can do that, they can take those names and phone numbers go back in to their database and link through your name all those others and build database on all kinds of things.

What other ways do they reach out into other databases and build and build the data. How about your school records, medical records, police records, voter registrations, other social networks, etc.? Maybe they don’t do that now, but they could if asked by a court order.

I am not trying to sound like a conspiracy nut or trash people that use Facebook. I find it all fascinating because I don’t use “observer” in my name for no reason.

I love observing the human experience. And Facebook is a powerful tool that impacts that experience.

I am also a freedom lover. And I worry some of this stuff takes away from that freedom when they are working unknown in the background as they proved with the 2016 election.

And then there is the what we don’t know thing that Zuckerberg is just fine not telling anyone about.

You just need a real email address. That’s all. You definitely don’t have to use your real name. And I appreciate you having an open mind to those of us who use the platform. I think your concerns are fair and valid which is why I agree that it needs to be regulated but sometimes we do need to make our own individual choices. Maybe this isn’t the best analogy but telephone books had our names, addresses, and phone numbers open to the public for years.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:47:12pm

re: #197 BeachDem

You’re missing out! Get yourself a hot woman fuck buddy!*

*and let those malicious spammers have free reign on your hard drive!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:47:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:48:09pm

re: #201 Charles Johnson

Ha-ha hit that stiff with a stone, ha-ha.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:48:58pm

re: #190 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, how about some more Condi Rice, Head Coach of the Cleveland Browns tweets?

Hahahahahaha!

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:50:02pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:50:13pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I have little confidence.
The other republican in the (special) general election got over 16% of the vote. Turnout for the run off election will be dismal. The normal Senate race in Miss. (normal schedule) broke 59-39 for the republican candidate last week.

Hell, those are real good odds in these parts.

Probably going to let MS be MS. We’re both exhausted by 2018 (2 near-death experiences, another significant surgery, working for losing candidate in the Dem primary, working for losing AL2 candidate who won the Dem primary, 3000 mi 12-site camping trip to Niagra Falls, Cat 3 hurricane on the block). Might write another check, but she’ll break my fingers.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:51:05pm

My birthday is on Thanksgiving this year. As a kid it was a curse. My BD celebration was usually a Thanksgiving afterthought. But now I can say: we will have steak and no turkey! (with a side of mac and cheese).

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:51:16pm

Ugh. Just blew my budget for the month. The on demand water heater core sprang a leak, and it is too thin copper to weld. $400. At least I could find a replacement online. But no hot water from Friday to at least Wednesday. bleah

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:51:45pm

re: #200 teleskiguy

You’re missing out! Get yourself a hot woman fuck buddy!*

*and let those malicious spammers have free reign on your hard drive!

GREAT IDEA!! I can also claim a bunch of unclaimed funds, locate fedex packages, grow my “organs” (then I’ll probably need a Whitaker toilet), win fabulous prizes, and much, much more!! I still can’t figure out how this all started—the capitalization is off on my initials, but the name and city are correct—one day last week, I got 153 of them.

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:52:46pm

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

My birthday is on Thanksgiving this year. As a kid it was a curse. My BD celebration was usually a Thanksgiving afterthought. But now I can say: we will have steak and no turkey! (with a side of mac and cheese).

My mother’s birthday often fell on Thanksgiving (the 26th). Almost as bad as having one on Christmas.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:52:59pm

re: #204 Patricia Kayden

Now that there gives me a lot of hope for 2020 when we actually get the chance to beat Trump on the ballot and not just against his proxies. And yeah Nate is right. Way too many stories about lily white truck stops and diners where people still clinging to their Trumpy.

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jeffreyw  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:53:26pm

I knew I was in trouble when I tried to open a FB account and they insisted I list the names of 5 friends. The fuck? I could only think of two and one of those was my wife, and no, I do not want to give you all of my gmail contacts. So I get it going and pretty soon FB was knocking at the door, saying so and so wanted to friend me and this other guy, too. Fuck no, I don’t know that fellow. And then I realized that they were all FB friends of my wife, and friends of their friends. I had to unfriend her in self defense. Two days later I decided to just say fuck all y’all and tried to quit. That was 6 or 7 years ago and I still am not quite sure I am all the way out.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:54:30pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

Did at one time, not any more. It’s nicely spiced up fruit, including raisins.

That doesn’t sound so bad.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:56:27pm

re: #207 retired cynic

Ugh. Just blew my budget for the month. The on demand water heater core sprang a leak, and it is too thin copper to weld. $400. At least I could find a replacement online. But no hot water from Friday to at least Wednesday. bleah

Went through that last week—brrrr, cold showers are the pits. My plumber guy was out of town when it happened, so I had to wait for his return. Took the fastest showers on record and washed my hair in the sink. I am a creature comfort person.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:56:33pm

re: #212 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

That doesn’t sound so bad.

A lot of people don’t like it because it’s very spicy. Me, I love it….

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:57:15pm

$90.3 million.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:58:38pm

re: #214 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

A lot of people don’t like it because it’s very spicy. Me, I love it….

I will have to find some and try it.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 3:59:55pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

$90.3 million.

For that? What am I missing?

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:00:08pm

re: #204 Patricia Kayden

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And yet we can expect even more such articles going into 2020, as the media will do everything in their power to prop up Donny for one last hurrah. More articles about how “Here in Bumfuck, Appalachia, white men who haven’t had a job in years still cling to their MAGA hats because they believe Trump’s gonna bring back their coal-mining jobs ‘any day now.’”

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:01:08pm

re: #216 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

I will have to find some and try it.

Normal food in W PA. I think the “meat” part goes back to when English called all food “meat”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:01:10pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

$90.3 million.

Somebody better smack me if I ever have that much money and decide to spend it on a painting.

That kind of cash could probably buy homes for every migrant in that caravan.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:01:27pm

re: #211 jeffreyw

I understand your frustration. I joined Facebook in 2004, way back when it was less intrusive and Orwellian. Times have changed. 🙁

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:01:29pm
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freetoken  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:01:31pm

re: #217 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

For that? What am I missing?

90 million dollars to spend?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:01:52pm

re: #217 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

For that? What am I missing?

A spare 90.3 million cash.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:02:50pm

re: #224 Decatur Deb

A spare 90.3 million cash.

Damn .3 cost me the win.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:02:51pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And Mueller certainly would have been approved by the Senate. He can’t stand that Mueller is 1000 times the man he is.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:03:06pm

re: #209 retired cynic

My mother’s birthday often fell on Thanksgiving (the 26th). Almost as bad as having one on Christmas.

Yep. Gorging on turkey and stuffing and then: “who’s ready for some birthday cake?!” And the Christmas presents were a bit muted: “well, we just bought you something for your birthday, so….”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:03:14pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“I wonder how many WH staff members have tried to explain this to Trump.”

All of them, Katie.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:03:23pm

JFC

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:03:42pm

re: #221 teleskiguy

I understand your frustration. I joined Facebook in 2004, way back when it was less intrusive and Orwellian. Times have changed. 🙁

Hell when I joined. You had to have a school email address. It took me a little longer than some of my friends since I was at a community college and they were at state universities.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:04:04pm

re: #229 Single-handed sailor

JFC

Duterte is Tagalong for Trump.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:04:33pm

re: #217 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

For that? What am I missing?

David Hockney, OM, CH, RA is an English painter, draftsman, printmaker, stage designer and photographer. As an important contributor to the pop art movement of the 1960s, he is considered one of the most influential British artists of the 20th century. Wikipedia

He has a lot of fans. Some of his fans have a lot of money.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:04:35pm

re: #219 Decatur Deb

“Normal” food in W PA. I think the “meat” part goes back to when English called all food “meat”.

I think it once did have chopped meat in it, and still the fat in it might be suet a lot of the time. If that’s a problem, you need to read the ingredients.

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:05:00pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Y’all are missing the point. It’s not that Democrats or moderates know Trump’s lying. It’s not that his staff is trying to tell him the facts.

It’s that he knows the GOP base is impervious to facts and logic, and they’ll believe that Trump’s right when he claims that Mueller’s got to be confirmed by the Senate or some other bulkshit nonsense.

Trump’s running a con and the media is still missing the fucking point.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:05:19pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

You just need a real email address. That’s all. You definitely don’t have to use your real name. And I appreciate you having an open mind to those of us who use the platform. I think your concerns are fair and valid which is why I agree that it needs to be regulated but sometimes we do need to make our own individual choices. Maybe this isn’t the best analogy but telephone books had our names, addresses, and phone numbers open to the public for years.

There is the connection then. The problem with digital data is how easy it is to connect it all together so quickly and efficiently.

Just think of Facebook, Twitter, Google, ATT, Verizon, Comcast, Charter and others all working together to build the Big Database we know nothing about? If those entities join hands and share with the government that is a lot of power.

The way they act, I guess I don’t trust them. And even without Facebook, I too would still fall into all those connections. We all do.

And if you want to go sci-fi/dystopian movie, they could create human bots running around doing what we do based on all that knowledge.

Say skiguy is standing at the bar in Utah at a ski resort he never skied and he hears some “guy” at a table behind him talking about teleskiing, being from Colorado and he likes Umphrey’s McGee and posts at a political site called Little Green Footballs.

And he just bought a car you get to pay for.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:06:03pm

re: #218 Targetpractice

And yet we can expect even more such articles going into 2020, as the media will do everything in their power to prop up Donny for one last hurrah. More articles about how “Here in Bumfuck, Appalachia, white men who haven’t had a job in years still cling to their MAGA hats because they believe Trump’s gonna bring back their coal-mining jobs ‘any day now.’”

I’m sure of that. And I’m sorry if I sound dismissive but those communities really aren’t representative of our country. Some stories about them are fine but where the hell were the stories about counties that Clinton won and actually in fact outperformed Obama. Not to take anything away from Obama’s accomplishments but the media ignored that there were quite a bit of places where she in fact did better than he did.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:07:41pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Robert Mueller was appointed by the Deputy AG, who was confirmed by the Senate after you nominated him, you mutant doorknob. Special Counsels have never been subject to Senate confirmation, though I’m sure Lumpy forgot to tell you that while he was blowing you on live TV.

Meanwhile, you are putting any actions by the DOJ in jeopardy because your hired goon is likely signing off on shit that he has no legal authority to even be touching. And the Senate GOP are letting him and you get away with that because they’ve totally abdicated their jobs. Say, perhaps that’s the reason why Senate confirmation is not required for Special Counsels…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:07:47pm

re: #175 HappyWarrior

BC or AD?

AD, After Derp.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:07:48pm

re: #227 Barefoot Grin

Yep. Gorging on turkey and stuffing and then: “who’s ready for some birthday cake?!” And the Christmas presents were a bit muted: “well, we just bought you something for your birthday, so….”

I never did understand this. I was hoping that my daughter would be born early, around Christmas, but she waited two weeks more before she was forced out. Just because Christmas just happened, I refuse to skimp on her birthday. It’s a totally different celebration.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:08:57pm

re: #229 Single-handed sailor

JFC

I guess that’s better than getting a whole country involved. I wish that’s what all world leaders would do. Just duke it out however between the two of them with no help whatsoever.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:09:30pm

Although volunteering your son instead of yourself is pretty chicken shit. I think I’d write off my parents if they had ever done that to me!

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:10:45pm

re: #232 wrenchwench

He has a lot of fans. Some of his fans have a lot of money.

I’ve seen a lot better artwork in Santa Fe from far better artists that I’d rather have hanging on my walls, and I might actually be able to scrape together enough money to pay for it, too.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:11:57pm

re: #239 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

I never did understand this. I was hoping that my daughter would be born early, around Christmas, but she waited two weeks more before she was forced out. Just because Christmas just happened, I refuse to skimp on her birthday. It’s a totally different celebration.

I have sisters who are twins who were born less than two weeks before Christmas. I once did a four-part present for them. Maybe that’s why they hate me.

/?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:12:55pm

re: #242 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

I’ve seen a lot better artwork in Santa Fe from far better artists that I’d rather have hanging on my walls, and I might actually be able to scrape together enough money to pay for it, too.

A commenter said that, for MUCH less, you could buy a swimming pool and stare at it as needed.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:13:41pm

re: #242 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

I’ve seen a lot better artwork in Santa Fe from far better artists that I’d rather have hanging on my walls, and I might actually be able to scrape together enough money to pay for it, too.

I thought for a sec that this was the guy who shredded his painting the minute it sold—that would be…amusing…for $90,000,000.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:14:07pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I’m sure of that. And I’m sorry if I sound dismissive but those communities really aren’t representative of our country. Some stories about them are fine but where the hell were the stories about counties that Clinton won and actually in fact outperformed Obama. Not to take anything away from Obama’s accomplishments but the media ignored that there were quite a bit of places where she in fact did better than he did.

The big thing is the shift in focus, from the early day “These are the communities Dems need to win back!” to the current “These are the communities that still cling to Trump despite his being a total fuck-up.” By this time next year, it will be “These are the communities that are totally going to give Trump a second term!”

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:14:14pm

re: #235 ObserverArt

There is the connection then. The problem with digital data is how easy it is to connect it all together so quickly and efficiently.

Just think of Facebook, Twitter, Google, ATT, Verizon, Comcast, Charter and others all working together to build the Big Database we know nothing about? If those entities join hands and share with the government that is a lot of power.

The way they act, I guess I don’t trust them. And even without Facebook, I too would still fall into all those connections. We all do.

And if you want to go sci-fi/dystopian movie, they could create human bots running around doing what we do based on all that knowledge.

Say skiguy is standing at the bar in Utah at a ski resort he never skied and he hears some “guy” at a table behind him talking about teleskiing, being from Colorado and he likes Umphrey’s McGee and posts at a political site called Little Green Footballs.

And he just bought a car you get to pay for.

Sounds like the only way to handle that possibility is to remain off the grid completely…no job with W2s or 1099s, no utilities, nothing. I’m not willing to live like that.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:14:26pm

re: #235 ObserverArt

And if you want to go sci-fi/dystopian movie, they could create human bots running around doing what we do based on all that knowledge.

Say skiguy is standing at the bar in Utah at a ski resort he never skied and he hears some “guy” at a table behind him talking about teleskiing, being from Colorado and he likes Umphrey’s McGee and posts at a political site called Little Green Footballs..

Again, that’s not going to happen (as far as I know) because I forbid Facebook from having access to my phone and my privacy settings are on lock down. It’s *how* you interact online, maybe something we need to teach children?

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:16:32pm

re: #243 wrenchwench

I have sisters who are twins who were born less than two weeks before Christmas. I once did a four-part present for them. Maybe that’s why they hate me.

/?

I think I need to have the four-part present explained to me before I pass judgment. LOL.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:16:54pm

re: #245 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I thought for a sec that this was the guy who shredded his painting the minute it sold—that would be…amusing…for $90,000,000.

And now the partially shredded image is worth even more.

I sometimes think it is a bunch of rich people one-upping each other to buy a painting to say they have something no one else does and they paid so much for it that makes it even more a prize they can flaunt.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:17:18pm

re: #244 Decatur Deb

A commenter said that, for MUCH less, you could buy a swimming pool and stare at it as needed.

You could probably pay a couple of people to pose exactly like that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:17:48pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

The big thing is the shift in focus, from the early day “These are the communities Dems need to win back!” to the current “These are the communities that still cling to Trump despite his being a total fuck-up.” By this time next year, it will be “These are the communities that are totally going to give Trump a second term!”

You know, my mom’s family comes from one of those areas and I have fond, fond memories of visiting there as a kid. My great aunts and uncles were great people. And you know what, I enjoyed visiting Johnstown again last summer meeting my mom’s cousin for the first time as we saw the house that her mother- my grandfather’s sister grew up in but those areas just don’t want to progress. They poo-poo legitimate suggestions on how they can improve their economies because they look down on environmentalists and liberals. They don’t deserve to suffer obviously but they don’t get any real scolding for their refusal to adapt.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:17:57pm

re: #245 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I thought for a sec that this was the guy who shredded his painting the minute it sold—that would be…amusing…for $90,000,000.

I actually thought that was pretty clever…the half shredded painting. Very unique.

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freetoken  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:18:02pm

All this art bidding stuff is just more evidence that the idea of “capital gains” is serious messed up.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:18:05pm

And no matter how much they may deny it, the media have a vested interest in another 4 years of Trump. Why? Because following him since he announced has been good for them, whether it was televising his Nuremberg rallies, giving him “exclusive” phone interviews, or simply reprinting his every Twitter utterance. They don’t want another Dem in the White House because they know they’ll just lose clicks and faces who will float back to Faux to hear “the truth.”

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plansbandc  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:18:21pm

re: #196 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

Authentic mincemeat does indeed have meat in it. My grandma made the no meat variety.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:20:04pm

Some of what I am saying about social media is meant to be fun and thought provoking. I’ll stop now because it may being taken too seriously. I know we have to live with this stuff.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:20:18pm

re: #256 plansbandc

Authentic mincemeat does indeed have meat in it. My grandma made the no meat variety.

Ewwwwww!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:20:21pm

re: #235 ObserverArt

There is the connection then. The problem with digital data is how easy it is to connect it all together so quickly and efficiently.

Just think of Facebook, Twitter, Google, ATT, Verizon, Comcast, Charter and others all working together to build the Big Database we know nothing about? If those entities join hands and share with the government that is a lot of power.

The way they act, I guess I don’t trust them. And even without Facebook, I too would still fall into all those connections. We all do.

And if you want to go sci-fi/dystopian movie, they could create human bots running around doing what we do based on all that knowledge.

Say skiguy is standing at the bar in Utah at a ski resort he never skied and he hears some “guy” at a table behind him talking about teleskiing, being from Colorado and he likes Umphrey’s McGee and posts at a political site called Little Green Footballs.

And he just bought a car you get to pay for.

I dunno man. I just choose not to let it rent space in my head. The world is already complicated as is. As I said, we didn’t completely lose our privacy where our names, numbers, and addresses were put into telephone books. And FWIW my “job” on Facebook is a dummy one. Ski and Sionainn can both tell you that it’s an Always Sunny reference and that I dont’ seriously practice bird law.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:20:31pm

re: #255 Targetpractice

And no matter how much they may deny it, the media have a vested interest in another 4 years of Trump. Why? Because following him since he announced has been good for them, whether it was televising his Nuremberg rallies, giving him “exclusive” phone interviews, or simply reprinting his every Twitter utterance. They don’t want another Dem in the White House because they know they’ll just lose clicks and faces who will float back to Faux to hear “the truth.”

Trump’s bankrupting the NRA, maybe a Dem will bankrupt the current version of our news.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:20:46pm

re: #257 ObserverArt

Some of what I am saying about social media is meant to be fun and thought provoking. I’ll stop now because it may being taken too seriously. I know we have to live with this stuff.

It’s all good.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:21:55pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

I dunno man. I just choose not to let it rent space in my head. The world is already complicated as is. As I said, we didn’t completely lose our privacy where our names, numbers, and addresses were put into telephone books. And FWIW my “job” on Facebook is a dummy one. Ski and Sionainn can both tell you that it’s an Always Sunny reference and that I dont’ seriously practice bird law.

Bird law would be pretty cool, though. I’m not sure what it would entail, but I’m sure you could figure that out.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:21:59pm

re: #256 plansbandc

Authentic mincemeat does indeed have meat in it. My grandma made the no meat variety.

The stuff in a jar is pretty good. I have made great crusts, but not mincemeat filling.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:22:37pm

re: #252 HappyWarrior

You know, my mom’s family comes from one of those areas and I have fond, fond memories of visiting there as a kid. My great aunts and uncles were great people. And you know what, I enjoyed visiting Johnstown again last summer meeting my mom’s cousin for the first time as we saw the house that her mother- my grandfather’s sister grew up in but those areas just don’t want to progress. They poo-poo legitimate suggestions on how they can improve their economies because they look down on environmentalists and liberals. They don’t deserve to suffer obviously but they don’t get any real scolding for their refusal to adapt.

As much as I may love my relatives and have fond memories of the time of my life spent living in that “small town” my mother hails from, I’m not going to bullshit myself into believing that this something that can remain viable going forward. The only thing that has kept that town growing is the highway access and the Toyota plant operating in the next county over. If you remove both of those, that town disappears because there’s just nothing else to sustain it.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:23:33pm

re: #263 wrenchwench

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:24:10pm

re: #262 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

Bird law would be pretty cool, though. I’m not sure what it would entail, but I’m sure you could figure that out.

Gotta ask Charlie Kelly.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:24:38pm

Put a Woman in Charge (feat. Rosanne Cash)

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:25:25pm

re: #251 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

You could probably pay a couple of people to pose exactly like that.

A local/regional artist does similar scenes in an even more realistic Kodachrome style. She doesn’t draw 90000 large.

Samantha French

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:26:17pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

I dunno man. I just choose not to let it rent space in my head. The world is already complicated as is. As I said, we didn’t completely lose our privacy where our names, numbers, and addresses were put into telephone books. And FWIW my “job” on Facebook is a dummy one. Ski and Sionainn can both tell you that it’s an Always Sunny reference and that I dont’ seriously practice bird law.

Happy, one last comment.

You are talking about the front end of Facebook. That is what you see and what others see.

I was messing about thinking about the back end. That is what they are able to do with what you see and how they connect you to other users and then maybe through those other users and other digital entities they do know your name, phone numbers, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:26:42pm

re: #264 Targetpractice

As much as I may love my relatives and have fond memories of the time of my life spent living in that “small town” my mother hails from, I’m not going to bullshit myself into believing that this something that can remain viable going forward. The only thing that has kept that town growing is the highway access and the Toyota plant operating in the next county over. If you remove both of those, that town disappears because there’s just nothing else to sustain it.

Right and i don’t delude myself about the white working class either. I know that men like my grandfather worked their asses off for their families but I don’t delude myself about the real reasons those groups have become solidly Republican and it’s really frustrating seeing a Senator from fucking Vermont lecture Democrats about it as if he has any clue what the white working class really thinks. Places like WV, rust belt PA, and others have gone Republican because they don’t like social liberalism and they’re willing to grudgingly accept right wing bs on the economy over social liberalism. Do I wish more working class people voted for Dems? Sure, I wish they could see that the GOP doesn’t give two shits about them or their interests but I wish more they could see that us being a proudly pro-choice, LGBT, immigrant party doesn’t hurt their bottom line at all.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:29:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:29:49pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Happy, one last comment.

You are talking about the front end of Facebook. That is what you see and what others see.

I was messing about thinking about the back end. That is what they are able to do with what you see and how they connect you to other users and then maybe through those other users and other digital entities they do know your name, phone numbers, etc.

Those are fair points. Anyhow, you don’t have to use the FB mobile. And FWIW it does rub me the wrong way that anyone I’ve ever corresponded with shows up as a potential contact person but is what it is. I just think FB just is. It’s like most things we encounter. Positive, negatives, neutrals, etc. I think Ski gets frustrated because AM refuses to see any of the positive benefits that people like him and I have gotten from modern social media. I guess it’s a touchy subject for me because it’s due to modern social media and stuff that I have my best friend.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:30:10pm

re: #271 Skip Intro

I had forgotten she was Vatican Ambassador. JFC what a joke.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:30:14pm

re: #179 freetoken

Trying to remember when I was young… we never had a macaroni and cheese dish. Ever.

Mac and cheese. Recipie was from the Creamettes macaroni box. Basically cheddar, milk and a little powdered mustard melted together, mix in cooked macaroni and bake at 300 for about an 1/2 hour. Ate a lot of it while growing up - cheap and filling.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:31:14pm

re: #268 Decatur Deb

I like that painting much better.

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wrenchwench  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:31:41pm

re: #265 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:32:00pm

Bryndzové halušky, I had this a lot of my time in Slovakia. Not for everyone I concede since it traditionally has sheep cheese on it but it reminded me a lot of Mac and Cheese and it was never too expensive and went great with a cold beer.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:32:28pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Happy, one last comment.

You are talking about the front end of Facebook. That is what you see and what others see.

I was messing about thinking about the back end. That is what they are able to do with what you see and how they connect you to other users and then maybe through those other users and other digital entities they do know your name, phone numbers, etc.

I guess the way I look at it is that the government already knows everything about me. What difference does it make at this point? As long as it’s not fucking up my credit, I don’t really care.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:33:08pm

Ouch.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:33:26pm

re: #271 Skip Intro

He needs to get a new jacket. He has clearly outgrown that one.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:33:58pm

re: #275 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

I like that painting much better.

samanthafrench.com

She’s in Brooklyn. Must have a local tie, because our tiny art museum featured her.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:35:02pm

re: #280 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

He needs to get a new jacket. He has clearly outgrown that one.

Yeah his gut was protruding.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:35:18pm

re: #276 wrenchwench

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:38:28pm

re: #250 ObserverArt

And now the partially shredded image is worth even more.

I sometimes think it is a bunch of rich people one-upping each other to buy a painting to say they have something no one else does and they paid so much for it that makes it even more a prize they can flaunt.

Tulips.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:38:43pm

re: #279 Single-handed sailor

That mean she’s in a wheelchair for the rest of her life?

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Scout  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:39:57pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

From that tweet:

For the umpteenth time: a special counsel is not subject to senate confirmation. I wonder how many WH staff members have tried to explain this to Trump.

I don’t get why so many people fail to see the obvious. No one in this White House has the best interests of America in their mind or in their heart. THEY ARE WORKING FOR trump — THEY HATE ALL THAT IS GOOD ABOUT AMERICA.

They don’t want to explain anything to trump, they want trump to go on harming good, decent people.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:41:23pm

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

That mean she’s in a wheelchair for the rest of her life?

Officials said she had suffered a spinal fracture. Her father had earlier told DPA she was able to move all of her body.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:41:51pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Right and i don’t delude myself about the white working class either. I know that men like my grandfather worked their asses off for their families but I don’t delude myself about the real reasons those groups have become solidly Republican and it’s really frustrating seeing a Senator from fucking Vermont lecture Democrats about it as if he has any clue what the white working class really thinks. Places like WV, rust belt PA, and others have gone Republican because they don’t like social liberalism and they’re willing to grudgingly accept right wing bs on the economy over social liberalism. Do I wish more working class people voted for Dems? Sure, I wish they could see that the GOP doesn’t give two shits about them or their interests but I wish more they could see that us being a proudly pro-choice, LGBT, immigrant party doesn’t hurt their bottom line at all.

The GOP lies to them because that’s what they want, happy lies about how they’re the “real America” and everything that they’ve ever known and cared about is “under attack.” They want to hear that the clothing factory that kept the town afloat closed because the “liberal elite” passed laws to please the “treehuggers” that made business too expensive and then the “globalists” sold off the jobs to China. If you point out how those jobs in “the good ol’ days” involved dangerous machines or toxic chemicals, they assure you that it was perfectly safe “so long as you were careful.” And hey, they grew up with air smelling of those chemicals and water that tasted funny, but “I grew up healthy, didn’t I?” You know, before they start sounding like they’re hacking up a lung or wondering why so many people in town ended up with cancer.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:43:39pm

re: #288 Targetpractice

The GOP lies to them because that’s what they want, happy lies about how they’re the “real America” and everything that they’ve ever known and cared about is “under attack.” They want to hear that the clothing factory that kept the town afloat closed because the “liberal elite” passed laws to please the “treehuggers” that made business too expensive and then the “globalists” sold off the jobs to China. If you point out how those jobs in “the good ol’ days” involved dangerous machines or toxic chemicals, they assure you that it was perfectly safe “so long as you were careful.” And hey, they grew up with air smelling of those chemicals and water that tasted funny, but “I grew up healthy, didn’t I?” You know, before they start sounding like they’re hacking up a lung or wondering why so many people in town ended up with cancer.

There’s just so little self awareness. And yeah the GOP lies to them repeatedly.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:47:36pm

Hey, according to Wiki, tomorrow is a very significant day!

November 19: International Men’s Day; World Toilet Day

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:48:30pm

re: #290 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Hey, according to Wiki, tomorrow is a very significant day!

November 19: International Men’s Day; World Toilet Day

Ah it’s Donald Trump day then. //

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:49:16pm
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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:50:34pm

I don’t know why the narrative ‘leftists think Trumpers are dumb that’s why he’s going to win in 2020’ bugs me. It’s just plain dumb.

‘I’m voting because people insulted me.’

What’s funny is it’s a self own.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:50:43pm

re: #292 jaunte

If he did this to another state, this guy would just shrug and not care but when it comes close to home. I’m glad he’s angry but sir, Trump has always been this guy. Thanks for realizing it but goddamn it dude, we tried fucking telling you.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:51:32pm
“We are not the ones to blame. We are not in charge of managing the forest,” another evacuee, Ryan Belcher, told The Guardian, adding, “I hope he sees how this community has come together… People are still here helping us. It’s an amazing thing and I hope he sees that.”

Spoiler: he did not see that.

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Jay C  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:52:16pm

re: #292 jaunte

And I’m sure that if comments like this (and this CAN’T be the only one) ever got back to the Moron-in-Chief, his rejoinder would probably be something like “It’s California, so fuck ‘em!”

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:52:18pm
‘…However, another Paradise resident, Ambrose Reuter, said that while he didn’t vote for Clinton or Trump, he appreciated Trump coming to California. “It meant a lot that he came out personally,” Reuter told the Enterprise-Record’.

Trump fans maintain the pathetically low bar.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:52:28pm

re: #293 BigPapa

I don’t know why the narrative ‘leftists think Trumpers are dumb that’s why he’s going to win in 2020’ bugs me. It’s just plain dumb.

‘I’m voting because people insulted me.’

What’s funny is it’s a self own.

Conservatives are a bunch of snowflakes who think they’re a bunch of tough guys but a lot of them are a bunch of overly sensitive assholes who can’t think critically to save their life.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:52:38pm

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Those are fair points. Anyhow, you don’t have to use the FB mobile. And FWIW it does rub me the wrong way that anyone I’ve ever corresponded with shows up as a potential contact person but is what it is. I just think FB just is. It’s like most things we encounter. Positive, negatives, neutrals, etc. I think Ski gets frustrated because AM refuses to see any of the positive benefits that people like him and I have gotten from modern social media. I guess it’s a touchy subject for me because it’s due to modern social media and stuff that I have my best friend.

Well, ‘mouse is mouse and I think he knows those benefits, he just thinks they can be done in other ways and he works with what he has and wants to remind there are other ways.

People are People!

Depeche Mode - People Are People (Lyrics)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:52:38pm

re: #292 jaunte

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Chauncy Gardener would have had a much more intelligent take on the matter….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:53:35pm

re: #297 jaunte

Trump fans maintain the pathetically low bar.

Any President would have done that, jackass. But not any President would have blamed you for what happened. Stop giving him a lowbar. It’d be fucking nice if Trumpers held Trump to any sort of responsibility but hey he pisses off the libs so he must be good.//

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:54:00pm
“It meant a lot that he came out personally.”

I call bullshit on the claim he didn’t vote for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:55:05pm

re: #299 ObserverArt

Well, ‘mouse is mouse and I think he knows those benefits, he just thinks they can be done in other ways and he works with what he has and wants to remind there are other ways.

People are People!

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True enough. Anyhow whatever works for one may not work for another.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:55:19pm

re: #187 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:55:21pm

re: #292 jaunte

An RW friend of mine said he expected Trump to “dial it down a bit” after he became President.

I asked him: “Why the hell did you think that?”

He said: “Because I thought he was smart.”

Sigh…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:55:58pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:56:14pm

re: #299 ObserverArt

Well, ‘mouse is mouse and I think he knows those benefits, he just thinks they can be done in other ways and he works with what he has and wants to remind there are other ways.

I take issue with his condescending tone. Sure, that might be grasping at straws with regards to his actual comments, but he used three comments to say “hey, dumbass, there’s email and Skype and all that.” It was kind of insulting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:56:29pm

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

An RW friend of mine said he expected Trump to “dial it down a bit” after he became President.

I asked him: “Why the hell did you think that?”

He said: “Because I thought he was smart.”

Sigh…

Did you ask why they thought he was smart? Because if they say successful businessman. He really hasn’t been that successful and if you want proof of that, look at the last steak and vodka you just ate and drank. He’s great at promoting himself. Everything else? He sucks.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:56:36pm

re: #301 HappyWarrior

Any President would have done that, jackass. But not any President would have blamed you for what happened. Stop giving him a lowbar. It’d be fucking nice if Trumpers held Trump to any sort of responsibility but hey he pisses off the libs so he must be good.//

They woke up one morning in 2008, discovered that Willie Horton had been elected President, and it drove them completely out of their minds. I’m not joking.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:57:28pm

re: #309 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They woke up one morning in 2008, discovered that Willie Horton had been elected President, and it drove them completely out of their minds. I’m not joking.

And then they turned around an elected a mirage of competency.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:57:55pm

re: #306 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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It’s how tactical vehicles manage the heat of the day.

“Mud, mud, glorious mud.
Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:58:31pm

re: #307 teleskiguy

I take issue with his condescending tone. Sure, that might be grasping at straws wint regards to his actual comments, but he used three comments to say “hey, dumbass, there’s email and Skype and all that.” It was kind of insulting.

That’s how I saw it too OA. It’s not like we’ve stopped using email, Skype(we used Facetime all the time when my brother and family were out West), and the phone. I think he’s just set in his ways and fine but I think he’s awfully judgmental of a platform he’s never used towards people like us who have used this platform almost from its inception.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 4:59:48pm

re: #309 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They woke up one morning in 2008, discovered that Willie Horton had been elected President, and it drove them completely out of their minds. I’m not joking.

Yeah Obama really woke something ugly up in this country. I’m glad Obama won ten years ago but there’s no doubt that he awoke a deep ugly current of racism and xenophobia in this country. I must emphasize that xenophobia too because so much of the crap directed at Obama was also because of his father being from Kenya and his international upbringing.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:02:07pm

Sitting on a cold tank in Germany was like that lower right picture ;)

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NetworkKed  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:03:59pm

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

The racing blog I walked through earlier was pretty blase about this injury - inexpert but sport-savvy opinion was that half the indycar field has had this injury during their careers. Six months of not-so-fun spinal reconstruction and rehab, then back in the car.

Open-cockpit racing at this level is primarily dangerous due to the head being exposed. If you don’t take a direct plow/penetration of the helmet or an outright decapitation, the protective tub inside the chassis will probably keep the injuries down to broken bones from decel and compression.

What I haven’t seen since this noon was any further info on the people hit by debris.

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:04:44pm

re: #292 jaunte

One California man whose children lost everything said of Trump, “I voted for him—and now? He can kiss my red ass. What he said was ridiculous. It hurts my heart. A lot of us voted for him and he [talks] down to us?” He has done that the entire time, sir. rollingstone.com

— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) November 18, 2018

We Dems tried telling you MAGAhead motherfuckers all through the 2016 campaign and you sneered and laughed in our faces and loudly supported Trump all the way through the general election to put him in the Big Chair.

Now that he’s hurt your fucking fee-fees by doing what he’s always done (and what we warned about) to you, you have the fucking nerve to get offended?

Fuck. You.

You got exactly what was on the tin.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:08:02pm

re: #274 William Lewis

Mac and cheese. Recipie was from the Creamettes macaroni box. Basically cheddar, milk and a little powdered mustard melted together, mix in cooked macaroni and bake at 300 for about an 1/2 hour. Ate a lot of it while growing up - cheap and filling.

I make my own version so it is creamy. I try not to eat it too much because it is rather rich.

I start with cooking the macaroni but not fully cooked. Then putting that into a casserole dish that has been buttered on the bottom and sides. Put in some cheese that is either shredded or chucks and a dusting of flour. Not a lot, it just helps make it from being runny.

Then get a pan with milk and a little butter in it.

Get that to almost boiling and start mixing in some cut up pieces of American cheese since it melts well. Then I start mixing in cheddar that is finely shredded because it melts better when it is not chunks. You have to keep stirring to keep it flowing.

When all melted and like a thick sauce (it can be thickened with some corn starch to make sure it is creamy) pour it all over the pre-cooked macaroni, cheese and flour in the casserole dish.

Then bake all that for maybe 30 minutes. Creamy thick, cheesy and rich.

I don’t really have exact measurements. I wing it. You can get a feel for how much sauce to make and how much macaroni that will completely cover.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:08:39pm

re: #316 TedStriker

We Dems tried telling you MAGAhead motherfuckers all through the 2016 campaign and you sneered and laughed in our faces and loudly supported Trump all the way through the general election to put him in the Big Chair.

Now that he’s hurt your fucking fee-fees by doing what he’s already done (and what we warned about)to you, you have the fucking nerve to get offended?

Fuck. You.

You got exactly what was on the tin.

Right. I mean I’m sorry. What’s happened to these people is awful and we need to help them but I’m sick of Republican voters having to have bad shit happen to them realize why the Republican Party and Trump especially shouldn’t be trusted with political power.

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makeitstop  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:09:13pm

re: #271 Skip Intro

Geez, Newtie. Push back from the goddamn table once in a while.

If I had a mid-section that looked like that I’d die of embarrassment.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:15:21pm

re: #316 TedStriker

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:16:59pm

re: #320 jaunte

Yeah I wonder why anyone would think Trump supporters are crazy and unhinged.

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:17:01pm

re: #320 jaunte

Yeah, pretty much.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:18:23pm

Shocked Member Of Face-Eating Leopards Party is a useful construction.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:19:36pm

re: #279 Single-handed sailor

Ouch.

I saw that earlier today. It was one of those perfect incidents. She lost her brakes at full speed, tried to scrub speed against the guard rail and that caused her to start to spin when she hits the other car backwards, she gets launched off his wheel and that puts her into the air.

Those are formula 3 cars. They have about 250 horsepower in a 1200 lb car. Top speed about 165 mph.

That structure she hits is for photographers and the safety fence is open there for them and the flagging corner workers and that is exactly where she went off. Most races there is only slit at the bottom of the fence for photographers. It is Macau and the do things their own way.

Others were injured too. I think I saw a corner worker, a photographer and the driver she went over.

I’ve gone to a lot of races, and I’ve been right behind those fences on special access passes. To get those, you have to sign a waiver stating you know the dangers.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:19:58pm

Member of I’ll Be Raptured Up To Heaven Party surprised at negative effects of careless earth stewardship.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:19:59pm

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

An RW friend of mine said he expected Trump to “dial it down a bit” after he became President.

I asked him: “Why the hell did you think that?”

He said: “Because I thought he was smart.”

Sigh…

Again showing that too many people in this country equate “success” with “intelligence.” Or think that “success” in one realm means one is somehow a master of all realms. Donny’s “success” was conning an entire generation of Americans into believing his name a byword for “success.” But the reality is every bit like most of the gold he surrounds himself with: Paper-thin and covering mundane shit that’s probably suffering from dry rot.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:20:00pm

Anything special for Sunday dinner? the wife has been working her butt off so I grabbed all this at the store. Plenty to work with. *rubs hands briskly*

Chicken thighs to be seared and finished in wine and herbs.
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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:21:16pm

re: #325 jaunte

Member of I’ll Be Raptured Up To Heaven Party surprised at negative effects of careless earth stewardship.

That pretty much is the religious right’s environmental policy. “Well the world’s going to end and I’m going to Heaven, so fuck the Earth.” There was a time when Republicans had a lot of environmental champions. Not anymore. The best we get now are Republicans who acknowledge climate change is real who then proceed to do nothing.

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:21:24pm

re: #280 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

He needs to get a new jacket. He has clearly outgrown that one.

I think he’s smuggling things out of the Vatican under that coat.

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:21:59pm

For The Ghost of a Flea, a post on Atlas Obscura about the painting.

atlasobscura.com

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:23:04pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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mmmirele  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:23:29pm

re: #161 Patricia Kayden

Come through, Espy!! It would be great if he beat that dried up racist.

That “dried up racist” is, believe it or not, 59 years old. As in “only a year older than me.” As in “She g-d knows better but pandering to the racists is more her style.” Seriously, I was shocked when I found out.

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ipsos  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:23:43pm

re: #306 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Waist deep in the Big Muddy and the big fool says push on…

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:24:17pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

That pretty much is the religious right’s environmental policy. “Well the world’s going to end and I’m going to Heaven, so fuck the Earth.” There was a time when Republicans had a lot of environmental champions. Not anymore. The best we get now are Republicans who acknowledge climate change is real who then proceed to do nothing.

Nah, they range in delusion from “There’s no way we can spoil the Earth because God wouldn’t allow that” to “If the Earth is spoiled then it’s God’s will” to the truly delusional ones who say “The Earth is spoiled, but I’ll be in Heaven before the worst hits.”

It’s the joke about the guy who gets to the pearly gates and demands to know why God didn’t save him from the hurricane. “I sent you a boat and a helicopter, what more did you want?!”

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:25:15pm

re: #320 jaunte

Get back to me when they ban the Q stuff at Trump rallies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:25:47pm

re: #207 retired cynic

Ugh. Just blew my budget for the month. The on demand water heater core sprang a leak, and it is too thin copper to weld. $400. At least I could find a replacement online. But no hot water from Friday to at least Wednesday. bleah

our clothes dryer just now up and died.

sigh

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:29:18pm

re: #327 Unshaken Defiance

Anything special for Sunday dinner? the wife has been working her butt off so I grabbed all this at the store. Plenty to work with. *rubs hands briskly*

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I’m hungry and I have nothing to eat. I’m leaving in the morning, so cleaned out the fridge of all the old food. I haz a sad.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:32:29pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

our clothes dryer just now up and died.

sigh

Crap! That sucks!

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:35:13pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

our clothes dryer just now up and died.

sigh

That’s OK…within the space of about two weeks recently, I had a washer that sprung a leak and was replaced, then the gas range decided to try to kill everyone in the house with CO at about 4 AM one morning (I called Metro Fire to check when the alarm wouldn’t stay off, they pinpointed the cooktop pilots as the cause, which Piedmont Gas concurred with).

Total costs to replace the washer, then the range: about $1600-1700

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:46:43pm
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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:52:42pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

our clothes dryer just now up and died.

sigh

Sorry! At least the part, while expensive, is cheaper than replacing the whole unit. Or even buying a LP or electric tank water heater. So I’m lucky. I guess?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:56:23pm

re: #338 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

Crap! That sucks!

well, we paid $50 for it about 20 years ago, so we kinda got full value from it.
:D

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:58:18pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, we paid $50 for it about 20 years ago, so we kinda got full value from it.
:D

Many years ago we need a second refrig to keep animal medications in. Found one for $25. It outlasted two new refrigs! Did finally die, however. RIP

344
Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 5:58:49pm

Good to know we’re not being laughed at anymore…

Winning!!!///////

345
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:02:27pm

Jim attracts the goofiest trolls.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:09:48pm

Got Thanksgiving all taken care of, I’m making…
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RESERVATIONS!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:11:09pm

JFC

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:12:58pm

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

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That’s because all he’s thinking is “I’m taking time away from Fox News for this!”

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:13:29pm
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ipsos  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:14:30pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

Got Thanksgiving all taken care of, I’m making…
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RESERVATIONS!!

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:14:58pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:19:49pm

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

Wow. I asked if anyone had this clip yesterday, where he called it “pleasure.” (Now you get to be my bff)
littlegreenfootballs.com

He. Is. Pathetic.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:20:12pm

re: #337 Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch

Oh oops. Grubhub maybe?

354
plansbandc  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:21:51pm

pikamercury.mp4

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:22:30pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

Got Thanksgiving all taken care of, I’m making…
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:23:52pm

re: #352 BeachDem

Wow. I asked if anyone had this clip yesterday, where he called it “pleasure.” (Now you get to be my bff)
littlegreenfootballs.com

He. Is. Pathetic.

And the GOP do nothing congress just sits on their asses. Even if Trump loses in 2020 we still got to put up with over 2 more years of this shit.

357
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:24:58pm

re: #355 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:26:09pm

re: #356 Eclectic Cyborg

And the GOP do nothing congress just sits on their asses. Even if Trump loses in 2020 we still got to put up with over 2 more years of this shit.

I mean, seriously, how fucking many times has the name Paradise been on the news (even on Fox) in the past week. There is no way a sentient being could come up with Pleasure instead of Paradise.

359
mmmirele  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:26:28pm

re: #340 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is an amazing gift. As of fall 2019, Johns Hopkins will be a loan-free institution for undergraduates. For the spring, the school will be making special arrangements for students already set up on loans and financial aid. Also, according to this letter, this brings the total of Bloomberg’s giving to Johns Hopkins to $3.35 billion dollars.

Donald Trump can’t even match that, because he doesn’t have anywhere near that money.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:27:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:28:06pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:28:31pm

re: #359 mmmirele

He does not have the decency to do that.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:30:15pm

My, he has a busy day tomorrow (remember, he can’t visit the troops because he’s so fucking busy)

Try not to strain yourself, yammie. (I did recently see a new nickname I’d not seen before—Strawberry Shortcock.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:31:35pm

re: #355 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:32:06pm
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A Cranky One  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:33:50pm

This is for the old folks who watched Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In.

Listen to Tiny Tim’s unreleased cover of “House of the Rising Sun”

Tiny Tim - House Of The Rising Sun (1993, Unreleased)

I’d describe it, but I can’t find the words.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:34:59pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:36:26pm

re: #355 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:37:43pm

re: #358 BeachDem

I mean, seriously, how fucking many times has the name Paradise been on the news (even on Fox) in the past week. There is no way a sentient being could come up with Pleasure instead of Paradise.

He was thinking about Stormy Daniels. Again.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:38:29pm

re: #366 A Cranky One

The words start at Horrific and go from there. That actually makes the old Shatner and Nimoy albums seem like The Beatles…!

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:44:09pm

re: #364 William Lewis

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:50:33pm

This must be Trump’s favorite band!

Mac Sabbath “Frying Pan”

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Dave In Austin  Nov 18, 2018 • 6:59:08pm

re: #368 ObserverArt

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2018 • 7:16:12pm

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MsJ  Nov 18, 2018 • 7:42:26pm

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