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Archangelus  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:01:33am

Meanwhile in Israel, where the turmoil has resulted in the fragile government coalition sustaining its first crushing voting loss today, the new seating arrangements among opposition members has the Head of the Arab unity party sitting by this fresh member…

(Hebrew: “So I’m thinking of resigning from the opposition…”)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:03:58am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:06:40am

Can’t wait to hear Donnie and the GOP debase the military even further.

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Danack  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:07:06am

/you go girl!

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Varek Raith  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:08:52am

You know your country is in deep shit when a comedy show has more news content and analysis than any freaking news network.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:10:09am

Nirvana’s MTV Unplugged at 25: fascinating facts about the landmark live show

“Everyone thought it would be a disaster, but it became one of the most important live albums of all time”

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retired cynic  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:14:46am

Hey, the woman who has helped me keep ahead of my house since 1978 (!) came up with a good one. She said DT had to dump on all those burned out people in California: they may have lost their houses, but HE lost the (his?) House.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:14:48am

The media are Trump’s bitches.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:19:19am

h/t to Evan Hurst at Wonkette:

Google Translate says it means: “All this with the most ragged”. Yeah, AI is going to replace us any minute now!

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Skip Intro  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:20:07am

re: #8 Single-handed sailor

The media are Trump’s bitches.

Willing bitches.

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Alephnaught  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:26:31am

JFC, there’s actually a Guardian live blog about Trump’s attacks on the soldiers that killed OBL!

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:27:47am

The scary caravan

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:31:44am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:37:54am
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:41:39am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Feature, not a bug.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:43:01am

Energy Secretary Rick Perry flies wife around the world with Texas campaign cash

U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry left the Texas governor’s mansion four years ago. But he is still tapping his Texas campaign account to fly wife Anita Perry around the globe for nuclear talks and to speak at international energy meetings, records show.

In Paris last year, Anita Perry spoke at a women in energy event. She also appeared alongside her husband in South Africa on a panel about natural gas, social media accounts show.

Most recently, the campaign paid $17,000 to fly Anita Perry to and from London last March for Saudi nuclear meetings, finance reports show. It’s not clear what role Anita Perry — a nurse — played at the closed-door talks, though campaign finance reports said she went for government related activities.

While spouses occasionally accompany cabinet members on foreign work trips, ethics experts said it’s unusual for them to participate in official functions.

The Swamp ®

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Mike Lamb  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:44:15am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Think he flipped a coin to decide whether to say “Only men can serve” or “Only Christians can serve”?

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:44:42am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Anti-Islam activist John Guandolo says that the two Muslim women recently elected to Congress “cannot serve” because “only Christians should hold public office.”

you said it yourself
they can serve
you’d just prefer they werent allowed to

‘should’ <> ‘must’

now run along

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:46:50am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Anti-Islam activist John Guandolo says that the two Muslim women recently elected to Congress “cannot serve” because “only Christians should hold public office.”
— Right Wing Watch

This person seems confused

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:47:38am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:49:26am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

The founders, by the way, were very clear that only Christians should hold public office, so let’s just put that out there.”

The Founders were so “clear” about this, they created a special Article in the Constitution to prohibit any “religious test”.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:49:28am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:50:26am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

tRump’s older than I am, but he’s still not old enough to have seen “Deportment” as a category on his report card….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:51:02am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

If there is one lesson history has taught us, it is that theocrats will do anything to gain and retain power. There is no atrocity too cruel, no tactic too base, no cost too high for people who think they have divine authority to control and dominate other human beings.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:51:23am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

A senior WH official tells me the White House is dropping its effort to ban Jim Acosta for his behavior at the Nov 7 press conference.

The office says, however, the White House reserves the right to revoke Acosta’s pass if he violates White House decorum in the future.

——-
Charles Johnson
@Green_Footballs
“White House decorum” LOL Shitt

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:52:20am

re: #23 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

tRump’s older than I am, but he’s still not old enough to have seen “Deportment” as a category on his report card….

he’s applying the word another away

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:52:46am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

A senior WH official tells me the White House is dropping its effort to ban Jim Acosta for his behavior at the Nov 7 press conference.

So much winning

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:53:23am

re: #27 Sir John Barron

So much winning

I’m tired of it—aren’t you?

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:53:31am

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If there is one history has taught us, it is that theocrats will do anything to gain and retain power. There is no atrocity too cruel, no tactic too base, no cost too high for people who think they have divine authority to control and dominate other human beings.

It is very dangerous for everybody if you to think yours is the ultimate ideology

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:53:38am

re: #25 dangerman

DJT just ‘fights back’, but everyone else must maintain proper ‘decorum’.

/

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Mike Lamb  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:55:32am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

To recap…Acosta asked a question that Trump didn’t like. He then pressed for answer and wouldn’t immediately hand the mic to the intern trying to make a name for herself. Trump stomps away. Once Acosta had no platform, Trump calls Acosta a “terrible person”, among other things.

Conclusion: Acosta violated WH decorum. Naturally.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:55:53am

Nature detour:

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:56:53am

I know the answer to that one.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 19, 2018 • 11:59:04am
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darthstar  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:02:14pm
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darthstar  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:02:42pm

Mouseover for full caption.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:04:16pm

re: #19 Sir John Barron

This person seems confused

Seems not to know or respect the Constitution.

Article VI, paragraph 3:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:06:14pm

re: #33 jaunte

I know the answer to that one.

A once proud party continues to debase itself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:06:38pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

“White House Decorum” = You must kiss Mr. Trumps ass and not question him harshly about anything…or else.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:08:40pm
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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:11:42pm
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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:12:19pm

re: #37 Eventual Carrion

Seems not to know or respect the Constitution.

Article VI, paragraph 3:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

well he did say ‘should’

/ .5

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:15:26pm

durr

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:15:47pm

Attempted suicide by cop
Cops conducting welfare check encounter man waving knife literally asking them to kill him.
Throws devices toward cops, that actually explode (no injuries)
Cops subdue with bean-bag rounds and stun gun.

Yes, of course it was a fat old white guy.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:17:01pm

Acosta - 2
Trump - 0

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:17:46pm

re: #45 Dr. Matt

Acosta - 2
Trump - 0

So much winning.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:18:12pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

durr

“Flag burners”? Who the fuck is even burning flags?

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:18:33pm

Trump loves to take things to court…until he knows he’s going to lose - then he bends like a reed.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:19:41pm

re: #47 Dr. Matt

“Flag burners”? Who the fuck is even burning flags?

The Russiabots are a little behind the times.

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freetoken  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:19:58pm

rollin… rollin… rollin…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:22:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:22:25pm
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:26:33pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Psychedelic Jellyfish… good band name.

And scientists know what it takes to get by in the time of Trump. Focus on the pretty things.

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freetoken  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:26:39pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:29:02pm

re: #33 jaunte

It makes sense as part of the larger pattern in which most people are viewed and valued as functional and/or ornamental objects whose worth bestows prestige and enjoyment on a small number of “real” people. You’re a tool or a bauble.

This is most obvious in and around their fucked up understanding of sex and consent, but it’s also true of how they speak to public servants, employees, etc.

Since military service symbolizes a bunch of qualities that these people want to attach themselves to, there’s a lot a veneration of the soldier as an abstraction, but when the mask slips it’s the same object-value at play and they don’t care about any specific serviceman or veteran.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:29:27pm

re: #53 lawhawk

My wife and I used to play rock band together and we named our band “Anorexic Squid” after we had some not the great calamari (size wise).

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:32:23pm
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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:34:01pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Psychedelic Jellyfish… good band name.

And scientists know what it takes to get by in the time of Trump. Focus on the pretty things.

The actual band Jellyfish was pretty psychedelic at times.

Jellyfish - The King Is Half-Undressed

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:34:17pm

The entire Republican Party attacking a war hero who happens to be battling cancer also threw a massive hissy over a Pete Davidson joke.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:36:08pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:39:14pm

re: #58 makeitstop

The actual band Jellyfish was pretty psychedelic at times.

[Embedded content]

Video

I haven’t heard that tune in a long time. I forgot all about it and them. Good tune.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:41:42pm

re: #59 Barefoot Grin

The entire Republican Party attacking a war hero who happens to be battling cancer also threw a massive hissy over a Pete Davidson joke.

Yep and Crenshaw to his credit was a good sport about it but the rest of the GOP cried about how liberal snl disrespected the military all the while they stand by this crap. Plenty of generals disagreed with and hell some like Boykin were even nasty to Obama. Obama and the Dems didn’t degrade their careers.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:43:46pm

re: #47 Dr. Matt

“Flag burners”? Who the fuck is even burning flags?

YouTube

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:44:18pm

Eisenhower could rise from the dead criticise Trump and the GOP would attack him because he was Supreme Allied Commander for a Democratic President.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:45:35pm
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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:46:01pm

re: #48 darthstar

Trump loves to take things to court…until he knows he’s going to lose - then he bends like a reed.

you got a billion dollars and owe a contractor $15k, yeah, he’s likely gonna fold

you threaten a guy’s livelihood, question his organization’s place in democracy, and mess with the 1A and 5A and they’re going to squash you like a bug

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:46:37pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

I haven’t heard that tune in a long time. I forgot all about it and them. Good tune.

If there ever was a band that the phrase ‘criminally overlooked’ was invented for, it was them.

A great American band that released their albums at absolutely the worst time.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:47:53pm

re: #50 freetoken

rollin… rollin… rollin…

rakin’…rakin’….rakin’….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:48:42pm

There has never been a President who has belittled veterans as much as Trump has for the sole crime of criticizing him and supporting other people. Trump is an undemocratic asshole who shouts MAGA because he never understood what made us great in the first place. It was that we had men and women unlike him who work together to improve the world regardless of differences. Trump is an ugly man who would have praised Hitler for taking his country back, praised Stalin for being tough, & played golf while Fort Sumter burned.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:49:29pm

re: #65 Patricia Kayden

I get it just fine. Trump is anti American and authoritarian loving.

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:49:32pm

re: #47 Dr. Matt

“Flag burners”? Who the fuck is even burning flags?

Just a pre-programmed cliche in the RW Slur-O-Matic: surprised it didn’t spit out “hippie” or “doper” as well.

Though the latter - given that marijuana is now at least quasi-legal in so much of the US - may have been deleted in the Slur-O-Matic’s last update.

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freetoken  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:49:42pm

re: #68 dangerman

rakin’…rakin’….rakin’….

… but there are no tree leaves on the floor of the Mojave desert…

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:49:59pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Crenshaw now represents TX Cong. District 2, a beautiful example of the gerrymander’s art, contained within a single county. All of those suburban neighborhoods wrapping around from east to west to neutralize the Democratic votes closer to the center of the city.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:50:18pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Bring on the meteor

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:50:52pm

re: #72 freetoken

… but there are no tree leaves on the floor of the Mojave desert…

details….

they should rake it anyway. it’ll look like the most beautiful golf course…..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:51:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:51:33pm

re: #73 jaunte

Crenshaw now represents TX Cong. District 2, a beautiful example of the gerrymander’s art, contained within a single county. All of those suburban neighborhoods wrapping around from east to west to neutralize the Democratic votes closer to the center of the city.

[Embedded content]

Holy Gerrymander.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:51:47pm

New rules!

Bullshit.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:51:50pm

Update on the young driver that flew through the retaining fence at the Macau Grand Prix yesterday. Also article mentions the others hurt in the race accident.

Damn good news considering the severity of the crash.

Motorsport_Com - Floersch has successful seven-hour surgery

Sophia Floersch has undergone a successful seven-hour operation on the spinal fracture she suffered in her horrific Macau Grand Prix crash, doctors have confirmed.

A seven-hour operation on her back was conducted on Monday, with doctors saying in a press conference afterwards that her vital signs are stable and limbs are active. She will remain in hospital for up to two weeks.

A message from her official Twitter account said that there had been no complications from the delicate operation.

“The medical team is deliberately working slowly to avoid risks,” it said. “The previous surgical course is good and without complications. The surgery that began this morning continues.”

It was also confirmed that TOM’S driver Sho Tsuboi had been discharged from hospital on Sunday night, while injured photographer Hiroyuki Minami has also been released.

Chinese photographer Chan Weng Wang, who has a lacerated liver, is expected to remain in hospital for another 10 days.

Race marshal Chan Cha suffered cuts and a broken jaw but should be released in three to four days.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:52:20pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

And prior to 2013, the district ran all the way over to Beaumont, so this is an improvement.

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Interesting Times  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:52:49pm

Fascinating thread (plus, it confirms a lot of what people here have remarked on):

And check this out from the replies:

Click image icon to see the TX midterm results map.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:53:08pm

Let’s be honest though. This is the cumulative effect of Bush’s campaign okaying the Swift Boat attacks on Kerry and the Purple Hearts at the RNC.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:53:15pm

re: #73 jaunte

Crenshaw now represents TX Cong. District 2, a beautiful example of the gerrymander’s art, contained within a single county. All of those suburban neighborhoods wrapping around from east to west to neutralize the Democratic votes closer to the center of the city.

[Embedded content]

how anyone could look at that map and not see “deliberate intent” is beyond me

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:54:01pm

re: #81 Interesting Times

Fascinating thread (plus, it confirms a lot of what people here have remarked on):

Click image icon to see the TX midterm results map.

The people frankly most afraid of immigrants are in places where immigrants aren’t going because those places don’t adapt.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:54:34pm

re: #83 dangerman

how anyone could look at that map and not see “deliberate intent” is beyond me

Being a Federalist Society stooge helps.

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wrenchwench  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:54:45pm

re: #58 makeitstop

The actual band Jellyfish was pretty psychedelic at times.

[Embedded content]

I went the wrong way in that rabbit hole. Psychedelic Furs.

[link redacted]

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:55:04pm

re: #78 makeitstop

New rules!

Bullshit.

if the press corps goes for this then they have truly been castrated

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:57:32pm

re: #87 dangerman

if the press corps goes for this then they have truly been castrated

to follow up,

the whole point of a follow up is for when you don’t get an answer to your question

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:58:07pm

re: #79 ObserverArt

That car crash is something straight out of Freejack.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 12:58:11pm

Getting close to gutta percha time.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:00:49pm

re: #90 jaunte

Getting close to gutta percha time.

When Mike Lee looks like a less dick than you, it’s time to look at yourself in the mirror Tommy.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:01:36pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Article VI, Section 3:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Literally in the fucking constitution.

And don’t you dare fucking start with “well that only applies for Christian denominations”, because fuck you it says “no religious Test”.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:05:14pm

Are we winning yet?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:08:36pm

re: #92 KGxvi

Article VI, Section 3:

Literally in the fucking constitution.

And don’t you dare fucking start with “well that only applies for Christian denominations”, because fuck you it says “no religious Test”.

It’s pretty damn clear yet we deal with condescending conservative jackasses who insist they understand the founders intentions and we don’t.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:09:50pm

re: #81 Interesting Times

Not just that, but across the entire Mexico border, all those districts went for Dems.

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mmmirele  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:12:31pm

re: #73 jaunte

Crenshaw now represents TX Cong. District 2, a beautiful example of the gerrymander’s art, contained within a single county. All of those suburban neighborhoods wrapping around from east to west to neutralize the Democratic votes closer to the center of the city.

[Embedded content]

He’d be my congressman if I still lived in my teenage home.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:14:18pm

re: #96 mmmirele

He’d be my congressman if I still lived in my teenage home.

I saw that he’s apparently criticized Trump in the past and actually sounded reasonable for a R on the border but I imagine he’ll get in line more than not. I hope I’m wrong because I do respect the guy’s service and not doing what others would have done regarding Davidson.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:16:19pm

re: #95 KGxvi

Not just that, but across the entire Mexico border, all those districts went for Dems.

What Trump and FNC won’t tell you is the border isn’t a crime filled hellhole. The people who live it know the truth but Trumper in Bumfuck, Nowhere near the border just buys the bs.

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retired cynic  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:17:31pm

Terry Gross has the Coen brothers on Fresh Air today, for those of you who are fans!

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mmmirele  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:19:17pm

re: #92 KGxvi

Article VI, Section 3:

Literally in the fucking constitution.

And don’t you dare fucking start with “well that only applies for Christian denominations”, because fuck you it says “no religious Test”.

If I wasn’t a diabetic I’d get the “no religious test” clause and this from West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943) in a tattoo:

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.

But alas, I am diabetic, so no tattoos for you!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:19:40pm

re: #99 retired cynic

Terry Gross has the Coen brothers on Fresh Air today, for those of you who are fans!

Awesome. Their new project is on Netflix.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:20:22pm

re: #100 mmmirele

If I wasn’t a diabetic I’d get the “no religious test” clause and this from West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943):

But alas, I am diabetic, so no tattoos for you!

I have four tattoos. I’m fucked.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:23:36pm

re: #90 jaunte

Getting close to gutta percha time.

@SenTomCotton
… Why are proponents afraid of hearings

you mean like for a lifetime appointment to the supreme court?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:23:56pm

re: #103 dangerman

you mean like for a lifetime appointment to the supreme court?

Boom!

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:23:58pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

It’s pretty damn clear yet we deal with condescending conservative jackasses who insist they understand the founders intentions and we don’t.

It’s one area where I agree very much with Jefferson’s views, and as the US Supreme Court relatively recently said, “freedom of religion means freedom from religion” (I forget what justice wrote that)

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:24:16pm

re: #95 KGxvi

Not just that, but across the entire Mexico border, all those districts went for Dems.

What about TX-23?
That one is real close: last I checked, the (R) incumbent was ahead by (?) 1500 votes or so. Still not called?

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:24:44pm

re: #93 jaunte

Are we winning yet?

i thought all those soybean tariffs were just pouring into the treasury //

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:26:39pm

re: #106 Jay C

What about TX-23?
That one is real close: last I checked, the (R) incumbent was ahead by (?) 1500 votes or so. Still not called?

Not sure, I based my comment on the tweet in the comment I was replying to.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:26:46pm

re: #105 KGxvi

It’s one area where I agree very much with Jefferson’s views, and as the US Supreme Court relatively recently said, “freedom of religion means freedom from religion” (I forget what justice wrote that)

TBH as a descendant of Irish Catholics who were persecuted by the Anglican Church being the state church, I’m a believer that church and state separated benefits church too. And the messed up thing is the ancestors of the Christian fundamentalists got that completely.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:27:23pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I have four tattoos. I’m fucked.

You should be fine, I think as long as your diabetes is under control, you can get more tattoos.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:28:30pm

re: #110 KGxvi

You should be fine, I think as long as your diabetes is under control, you can get more tattoos.

Phew no diabetes though it runs in my family.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:29:42pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Phew no diabetes though it runs in my family.

Yeah, it’s just that having high blood sugar can make the healing process more difficult.

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:29:55pm

re: #110 KGxvi

You should be fine, I think as long as your diabetes is under control, you can get more tattoos.

I think the issue is more “can HW be elected to Congress?”. Tattoos notwithstanding…
;). //

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:30:23pm

re: #112 KGxvi

Yeah, it’s just that having high blood sugar can make the healing process more difficult.

Never have had any problems with that thankfully.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:31:44pm

re: #112 KGxvi

Yeah, it’s just that having high blood sugar can make the healing process more difficult.

I know that all too well PLUS Humira depressing my immune system only adds to the fun…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:32:21pm

re: #113 Jay C

I think the issue is more “can HW be elected to Congress?”. Tattoos notwithstanding…
;). //

Haha. I already took a Sherman pledge- will not accept the nomination nor will I serve on that. My ink is pretty tame tbh. But they’ll know how old I am if I wash up ashore one day.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:32:31pm

re: #113 Jay C

I think the issue is more “can HW be elected to Congress?”. Tattoos notwithstanding…
;). //

Luckily, I think tattoos aren’t much of a disqualification anymore. It appears it’s bipartisan.

Plus with more than half of people between 18 and (I think) 45 having tattoos, it’s not really a “ew” thing

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:35:55pm

re: #117 KGxvi

Luckily, I think tattoos aren’t much of a disqualification anymore. It appears it’s bipartisan.

Plus with more than half of people between 18 and (I think) 45 having tattoos, it’s not really a “ew” thing

It actually was pretty common in the Victorian era. Churchill’s mother had a few. It’s like facial hair. Something that our grandparents generation frowned on but their grandparents were cool with. Showed my very anti facial hair grandmother a photo of her grandpa a cousin in Europe sent and mustache!

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carey94tt  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:39:26pm

re: #99 retired cynic

Terry Gross has the Coen brothers on Fresh Air today, for those of you who are fans!

Listen npr.org

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:41:13pm

re: #113 Jay C

I think the issue is more “can HW be elected to Congress?”. Tattoos notwithstanding…
;). //

his slogan will be “keep your shirt on” (presumably)

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:44:43pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, here in Canada, it’s been determined that certain rare microbes form a new supra-kingdom of life.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:47:39pm

re: #95 KGxvi

Not just that, but across the entire Mexico border, all those districts went for Dems.

California. Arizona. Nevada. Arizona. There’s a reason these states have Spanish names.

Los Angeles. San Francisco. San Diego. Santa Barbara. San Jose. San Bernardino. San Clemente. Santa Clara. San Pedro. La Jolla. Miramar. Playa del Rey. California even has a saint of its very own, Junipero Serra (born 1713).

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:48:00pm

re: #81 Interesting Times

Fascinating thread (plus, it confirms a lot of what people here have remarked on):

Click image icon to see the TX midterm results map.

I’m surprised GOPers remember the caravan, which was the fear scam from an entire two weeks ago, which is a millennium in today’s world. On to the next outrage for FNC!

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:48:04pm

So…the caravan got to the border and was defeated, so now our boys can return home?

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:50:09pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I have four tattoos. I’m fucked.

Good thing you weren’t hoping to be buried in a Jewish cemetery.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:50:41pm
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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:50:57pm

re: #122 sagehen

California. Arizona. Nevada. Arizona. There’s a reason these states have Spanish names.

Los Angeles. San Francisco. San Diego. Santa Barbara. San Jose. San Bernardino. San Clemente. Santa Clara. San Pedro. La Jolla. Miramar. Playa del Rey. California even has a saint of its very own, Junipero Serra (born 1713).

I was raised Catholic, and did the Catholic school thing through the 6th grade in southern California, trust me, I know all of this too well.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:53:16pm

re: #124 makeitstop

So…the caravan got to the border and was defeated, so now our boys can return home?

The caravan got to a part of the border 500 miles west of where the troops were stationed.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:54:19pm

it’s funny. take 5 minutes

trump is like a horse in a hospital

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:54:21pm

Reset the clock!

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:54:49pm

re: #127 KGxvi

I was raised Catholic, and did the Catholic school thing through the 6th grade in southern California, trust me, I know all of this too well.

Did your school do a field trip to San Juan Capistrano every spring?

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:55:25pm
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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:56:22pm

re: #131 sagehen

Did your school do a field trip to San Juan Capistrano every spring?

No, we were in Riverside county at the time. Fourth grade, to coincide with state history curriculum we had to build models of the missions, I did San Gabriel (mom’s maiden name). It was an utter shit show.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:56:50pm

re: #126 Single-handed sailor

jay, while a laudable intellectual exercise, there is no ‘ethic’
the only POV that matters is will it make money?

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:58:36pm

re: #132 Single-handed sailor

Trump’s endorsed candidates lost at a greater clip than the endorsed candidates of his predecessor Obama.

Trump couldn’t carry his party over the line, and it’s highly suggestive that those who got endorsements from Trump ended up worse off.

So yeah, it was about him.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 1:58:42pm

re: #132 Single-handed sailor

Trump says of the midterm losses, “I wasn’t on the ballot.”

remember two short weeks ago? i could even find the articles if i had to:

“if they win it’s because of me, if they lose it’s their own fault”

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:00:04pm

re: #133 KGxvi

No, we were in Riverside county at the time. Fourth grade, to coincide with state history curriculum we had to build models of the missions, I did San Gabriel (mom’s maiden name). It was an utter shit show.

I grew up in Covina; right near the LA/SB county line.

We also went to San Onofre; where we were informed that nuclear power was guaranteed 100% safe. That nobody had ever died at a nuclear power plant, and there’d never been any accidents or any escaped radioactivity. That gives you some idea how old I am.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:00:20pm

re: #136 dangerman

washingtonpost.com

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:03:34pm

re: #137 sagehen

I grew up in Covina; right near the LA/SB county line.

We also went to San Onofre; where we were informed that nuclear power was guaranteed 100% safe. That nobody had ever died at a nuclear power plant, and there’d never been any accidents or any escaped radioactivity. That gives you some idea how old I am.

The more I think about it, we might have done the San Juan Capistrano field trip, because I do remember going there somewhere along the way. But that might have been something we did with exchange students.

I was in Riverside County until junior high, then it was Yorba Linda in Orange County.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:05:20pm

Good thing for Ms Love, they didn’t stop counting after all. Vote is supposed to be certified tomorrow, and SLC County still has ballots outstanding, apparently.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:05:30pm

Watched Nicole Wallace while reading here and I am wondering about something.

Does Donald J. Trump have one single redeeming character trait?

I can’t think of one single thing, but that may be due to listening and reading the really stupid shit he has said over the last few days. And it all points to his questionable character.

Our asshole president is one flawed human being.

He is damn lucky his father gave him money to pad his pitiful life. Because if he ever had to trust other people to hire him and keep him employed, or use his service or labor in a trusting manner, he would maybe be good enough to rake leaves on a landscaping crew. Maybe.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:05:34pm

Huh. Mueller says ‘Whitaker? So what?’

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:06:10pm

re: #138 GlutenFreeJesus

washingtonpost.com

and you did it in less time than it took me to order chinese food for 8

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:07:54pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

Watched Nicole Wallace while reading here and I am wondering about something.

Does Donald J. Trump have one single redeeming character trait?

I can’t think of one single thing, but that may be due to listening and reading the really stupid shit he has said over the last few days. And it all points to his questionable character.

Our asshole president is one flawed human being.

He is damn lucky his father gave him money to pad his pitiful life. Because if he ever had to trust other people to hire him and keep him employed, or use his service or labor in a trusting manner, he would maybe be good enough to rake leaves on a landscaping crew. Maybe.

it’s just possible that iwth a different upbringing he might have turned into something else entirely

he is 100% the product of his environment

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:07:57pm
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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:11:06pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

Watched Nicole Wallace while reading here and I am wondering about something.

Does Donald J. Trump have one single redeeming character trait?

I can’t think of one single thing, but that may be due to listening and reading the really stupid shit he has said over the last few days. And it all points to his questionable character.

Our asshole president is one flawed human being.

He is damn lucky his father gave him money to pad his pitiful life. Because if he ever had to trust other people to hire him and keep him employed, or use his service or labor in a trusting manner, he would maybe be good enough to rake leaves on a landscaping crew. Maybe.

You know, I was thinking about this the other day and the moment in the debates where whichever gasbag asked the candidates to say something else about the other… I’m honestly not sure I’d have been as nice as Clinton was. I might have sat there for a solid thirty second before saying, “yeah, I got nothing.”

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:12:25pm

re: #136 dangerman

remember two short weeks ago? i could even find the articles if i had to:

“if they win it’s because of me, if they lose it’s their own fault”

Even sadder, we didn’t need to have articles quoting him.

We could, and many did, guess he would not take responsibility for loses, but would tout those wins.

Two years in and everyone knows Trump.

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EPR-radar  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:13:51pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

Trump is such a synthesis of all negative human traits that I think it’s reasonable to open a Trump murder investigation.

It would be weirdly inconsistent for Trump to have left only this form of depravity off his resume.

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freetoken  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:16:39pm

re: #148 EPR-radar

Trump is the Id of the hate-right made flesh.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:17:54pm

i really hope congress subpoenas Don Jr and Ivanka two days before Trump’s SOTU address next year. I want it to have just enough time to sink in and send him off his fucking nut.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:20:00pm

re: #144 dangerman

it’s just possible that iwth a different upbringing he might have turned into something else entirely

he is 100% the product of his environment

I don’t know much about parenting, but I have known families with several children and there can be the one kid that is just not like any of the others.

I think it has long been debated about parenting over nurture versus nature and can good parents raise bad kids, or are some just naturally mean, the “bad seed” type.

So, can anyone ever be 100% the product of their environment?

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m0nkeyb0y  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:20:25pm

re: #148 EPR-radar

To his most reliable evangelical base abortion is murder, so by their standards I am sure he is.

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EPR-radar  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:21:00pm

re: #150 darthstar

i really hope congress subpoenas Don Jr and Ivanka two days before Trump’s SOTU address next year. I want it to have just enough time to sink in and send him off his fucking nut.

Trump literally chewing carpet in rage on live TV for the SOTU would be epic, especially if his arrest is timed appropriately.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:23:12pm

re: #148 EPR-radar

Trump is such a synthesis of all negative human traits that I think it’s reasonable to open a Trump murder investigation.

It would be weirdly inconsistent for Trump to have left only this form of depravity off his resume.

Interesting thought there. I have wondered if he ever had anyone he really needed to get out of his life professionally “disappeared” by some of the people he obviously knew in NYC.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:23:31pm

re: #130 lawhawk

Reset the clock!

Oh and you can call bullshit on the “good guy with a gun” excuses on this one too: One of the critically injured is a cop.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:26:33pm

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:31:42pm

re: #151 ObserverArt

I don’t know much about parenting, but I have known families with several children and there can be the one kid that is just not like any of the others.

I think it has long been debated about parenting over nurture versus nature and can good parents raise bad kids, or are some just naturally mean, the “bad seed” type.

So, can anyone ever be 100% the product of their environment?

oh of course not
people do overcome it and some grow up in spite of it

i just think in his particular case, he’s an entitled dick because he was raised as an entitled dick to be an entitled dick

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:39:38pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:50:46pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

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MsJ  Nov 19, 2018 • 2:52:43pm

re: #151 ObserverArt

I don’t know much about parenting, but I have known families with several children and there can be the one kid that is just not like any of the others.

I think it has long been debated about parenting over nurture versus nature and can good parents raise bad kids, or are some just naturally mean, the “bad seed” type.

So, can anyone ever be 100% the product of their environment?

There are stories of parents treating one kid like a prince/princess and another like an unwanted pet rat (Read A Child Called It… Fucking heartbreaking)

There are stories of great parents having a shitty child and vise versa.

My BIL was apparently a shitty kid/teenager whose high school girlfriend (now wife of like 40 years) gave him an ultimatum… Fix your shit or goodbye. He literally changed overnight.

We know that nature alone creates mental issues like paranoid schizophrenia. We also know that nurture can create issues, especially when abused, neglected or otherwise mistreated.

Sexual abuse at a young age many times creates those children when they grow up becoming abusers of children of the same age as when they were abused.

I’d guess one or the other could be 100% at issue as well as a mixture of mental issues and neglect or adviser.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:02:30pm

Decorum!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:05:31pm

Sheesh! We are now outsourcing our nutjobs. An anti-caravan demonstration IN Mexico.

Shouting ‘Mexico First,’ Hundreds In Tijuana March Against Migrant Caravan

The message for the migrant caravan was clear from marchers on Sunday in Tijuana, Mexico: We don’t want you here.

“We want the caravan to go; they are invading us,” said Patricia Reyes, a 62-year-old protester, hiding from the sun under an umbrella. “They should have come into Mexico correctly, legally, but they came in like animals.”

Demonstrators held signs reading “No illegals,” “No to the invasion” and “Mexico First.” Many wore the country’s red, white and green national soccer jersey and vigorously waved Mexican flags. The crowd often slipped into chants of “Ti-jua-na!” and “Me-xi-co!” They sang the national anthem several times.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:08:05pm
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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:08:27pm

I wonder if house Dems can set up some kind of soybean aid to Yemen.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:12:46pm

re: #144 dangerman

it’s just possible that iwth a different upbringing he might have turned into something else entirely

he is 100% the product of his environment

I can’t grant him that.

His siblings were products of the same environment, and they’re not shitshows.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:15:08pm

re: #162 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m surprised people are surprised about this, Mexicans tend to look down on their southern neighbors even more than some in the U.S. look down on Mexicans. Hell it’s kinda the same all over Latin America from what I’ve heard/seen.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:20:52pm
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dangerman  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:22:04pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Can you say, incredibly wasteful xenophobic political stunt? Trump used the military as a mid-term election strategy to appeal to fear and hatred. That’s just not right.

didnt work too well

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:23:07pm

re: #166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’m surprised people are surprised about this, Mexicans tend to look down on their southern neighbors even more than some in the U.S. look down on Mexicans. Hell it’s kinda the same all over Latin America from what I’ve heard/seen.

I’ve gotten the feeling it is in the Islands too. I don’t think Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, and Cubans get along all that well.

It’s that other side of the fence/tracks/mountain/continent/sea thinking.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:24:48pm

re: #168 dangerman

didnt work too well

They can’t even wag the dog competently.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:34:20pm

re: #145 gocart mozart

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:38:12pm

Shocked, shocked I say

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:38:46pm

Was going to do all of my shopping via Amazon, but given the recipients are likely migrant farmers in my community, I’m going with Target this year. But good to know about getting gift receipts online.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:39:33pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:39:41pm

re: #170 makeitstop

They can’t even wag the dog competently.

Never looks right when it turns out you’re wagging the cutest little puppies….

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:39:52pm

Trump engages in a $220M deployment of troops to the border for a campaign stunt that ends immediately after the election is over.

Meanwhile, the Mueller investigation has cost roughly $20M in the year since it began, only 1/10th of the troop deployment.

Guess which expense the GOP considers unjustified and wants to immediately end?

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:40:59pm
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ipsos  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:43:36pm

re: #174 jaunte

LOCK HER UP!

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:44:28pm

re: #172 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shocked, shocked I say

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:44:31pm

Way past ready to see Trump and his miserable spawn on the ash heap of history.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:47:59pm

re: #6 Dr. Matt

Nirvana’s MTV Unplugged at 25: fascinating facts about the landmark live show

Goddammit, now I’m all nostalgic and wondering where the fuck all that decent energy went? How did we wind up with such a depraved & dysfunctional society?

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:49:16pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

At this point, who can really say they’re surprised that the White House say an opportunity to violate the confidentiality of millions of Americans to create a hit-list for ICE?

Heh, I just heard David Corn on Ari’s The Beat say Ivanka claimed she was not aware of there being rules surrounding her use of emails working in the government.

Just like Daddy. Lying or ignorant or both.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:50:26pm

re: #182 ObserverArt

Heh, I just heard David Corn on Ari’s The Beat say Ivanka claimed she was not aware of there being rules surrounding her use of emails working in the government.

Just like Daddy. Lying or ignorant or both.

Not to worry, I’m sure she has a high-priced lawyer willing to throw himself on the grenade by declaring that, as she’s not really a federal employee, the law doesn’t apply to her emails.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:51:54pm

re: #90 jaunte

Getting close to gutta percha time.

And Mike Lee is so crazy, he warned that the interstate highway system could lead to civil war!

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MsJ  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:53:04pm

re: #178 ipsos

LOCK HER UP!

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Yes. Seriously.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:53:54pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

Not to worry, I’m sure she has a high-priced lawyer willing to throw himself on the grenade by declaring that, as she’s not really a federal employee, the law doesn’t apply to her emails.

And as they are discussing, tossing aside the whole email thing daddy used while running for president. This is the definition of brazen.

…and they are now talking about her probably claiming she isn’t a government employee, and that she may have thought she was above the rules because daddy.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:54:18pm

Ivanka fucked up.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:55:26pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:56:10pm

re: #188 Patricia Kayden

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:56:47pm
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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:58:09pm

re: #174 jaunte

It’s fine, this is totally different than using a private email server… I mean, we all know how secure yahoomail is…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:59:09pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 3:59:39pm

The GOP failed to take the Senate in ‘10, yet the media didn’t hesitate to dub it a wave election or portray Obama as the big loser of that night.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:01:06pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:01:45pm

re: #174 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:02:01pm

re: #194 Patricia Kayden

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:02:06pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

But, you know, it totally wasn’t a blue wave because they didn’t take the US Senate.

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I’m not going to get my hopes up, but 50-36 in Mississippi (6% MOE!!!) for a Republican doesn’t seem particularly good. Having Democrats in the Senate from both Alabama and Mississippi would be amazing

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:04:14pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:05:36pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:05:39pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:06:04pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:06:11pm

Ivanka using a private email for gov’t business, Jared doing the same, and Daddy using a non-secure cellphone that could be tapped by anybody.

But the GOP wants to see off the last weeks of their House majority dragging Comey and Lynch back in for another sit-down about Hillary’s emails.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:06:27pm

OMFG WHAT???!!!

*faints*

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:06:28pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Trump engages in a $220M deployment of troops to the border for a campaign stunt that ends immediately after the election is over.

Meanwhile, the Mueller investigation has cost roughly $20M in the year since it began, only 1/10th of the troop deployment.

Guess which expense the GOP considers unjustified and wants to immediately end?

um… the Mueller investigation has spent roughly $20M, but it also led to $46M in asset forfeiture from Manafort. So not only didn’t it “cost” anything, it’s had a 125% RoI.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:07:16pm

re: #193 Targetpractice

The GOP failed to take the Senate in ‘10, yet the media didn’t hesitate to dub it a wave election or portray Obama as the big loser of that night.

I suspect the argument goes: Dems lost 6 seats in 2010, three of them in states they should win (Wisconsin, Illinois, and Pennsylvania); while Republicans in 2018 are going to end up gaining a seat.

There were different maps in those elections, of course, and different dynamics at play, but I’m sure that’s how it would be spun.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:09:06pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

Ivanka using a private email for gov’t business, Jared doing the same, and Daddy using a non-secure cellphone that could be tapped by anybody.

But the GOP wants to see off the last weeks of their House majority dragging Comey and Lynch back in for another sit-down about Hillary’s emails.

Why it’s almost like the GOP are complete hypocrites and it starts with Trump and his dipshit daughter and son in law.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:12:20pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Why it’s almost like the GOP are complete hypocrites and it starts with Trump and his dipshit daughter and son in law.

Honestly, I’m not sure hypocrite is even the right word. I’m not sure what the right word is, but hypocrite doesn’t seem to fit.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:12:48pm

re: #203 goddamnedfrank

Okay, so I find myself wondering if there’s an upper limit to what is gained by aging scotch.

I mean, barrel congeners leak in and the angel’s share leaks out, but at some point does it just begin to be too much? It could taste like the seat of J Edgar Hoover favorite oak chair.

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fern01  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:21:30pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Trump breaks everything he touches. He doesn’t comprehend a joke & neither do his minions. That the WHCA buckled under shows what a weak lot they are.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:22:58pm

re: #209 fern01

Trump breaks everything he touches. He doesn’t comprehend a joke & neither do his minions. That the WHPC buckled under shows what a weak lot they are.

The WHCA had a choice between standing up to an unpopular president or buckling under to please critics who hate them on general principle.

They chose…poorly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:26:14pm

re: #181 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Goddammit, now I’m all nostalgic and wondering where the fuck all that decent energy went? How did we wind up with such a depraved & dysfunctional society?

Well, 1994 was mostly pre-internet and pre-social media days.

Not the only factor I’m sure, but definitely part of it.

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austin_blue  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:30:28pm

Shooting at Mercy Hospital turned out to stem from a jilted (male) fiancée taking a shot at his ex, a Doctor on staff.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:34:21pm

We could solve the gun violence problem in one fell swoop by forbidding ex-boyfriends and ex-husbands to have weapons.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:37:09pm

re: #174 jaunte

But her emails.
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MsJ  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:38:21pm

re: #209 fern01

Trump breaks everything he touches. He doesn’t comprehend a joke & neither do his minions. That the WHCA buckled under shows what a weak lot they are.

Trump gets jokes that are cruel. He finds cruelty funny. He’s Caligula in a suit.

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fern01  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:40:10pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The GOP would attack their mothers if they dared to criticise dear leader. So now we have the GOP against the troops. What else will this imbecile do to the nation?

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:40:14pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Come for the dragging. Stay for the ratio.

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:40:47pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:41:20pm

re: #214 lawhawk

[Butter emails.]

That’s durable butter. Never goes rancid.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:42:14pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:42:52pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:44:25pm

re: #181 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Goddammit, now I’m all nostalgic and wondering where the fuck all that decent energy went? How did we wind up with such a depraved & dysfunctional society?

FOX News.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:45:22pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“Oh, we didn’t know that this was wrong, we thought it was cool because of Daddy.”

“Alright, well can we review the emails to determine if there is anything in them that is covered under government records laws?”

“Those are privileged! Touch them and my lawyers will eat you alive!”

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piratedan  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:45:48pm

re: #201 gocart mozart

presidential decorum for thee, but not for me….

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:45:48pm

re: #217 lawhawk

Donald Trump called Paradise, California “Pleasure” twice before being corrected by the governor of California. But yes, let’s get on Ocaiso-Cortez for using the wrong word when everyone would clearly understand what she was actually talking about.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:45:59pm

re: #221 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We didn’t even get 8 hours between this shooting and the earlier one in Chicago.

The only country where this happens like clockwork is the US. No other country has this kind of gun violence. No other country has such lax gun control laws.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:48:30pm

re: #226 lawhawk

America, fuck yeah! Shut up stupid libtard! MAGA!

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:48:45pm

By the way, didn’t the GOP raise a huge fucking brouhaha over the idea of Hillary’s lawyers being the ones who reviewed her emails and determined which were official and which were personal? I could have sworn I remember them screaming bloody murder that she would withhold any emails from investigators and laughed at the suggestion that those emails might contain little more than recipes or gossip.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:51:09pm

re: #203 goddamnedfrank

OMFG WHAT???!!!

*faints*

< While he’s on the floor I grab his glass and run for the door >

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:54:58pm

re: #226 lawhawk

We didn’t even get 8 hours between this shooting and the earlier one in Chicago.

The only country where this happens like clockwork is the US. No other country has this kind of gun violence. No other country has such lax gun control laws.

Daughter2 and Grandson1 are at Denver airport, returning from her job interview and house-hunting trip. (Do we still maintain the Lizard HQ there?)

Her new job is a couple blocks from the shooting scene.

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:55:03pm

re: #228 Targetpractice

By the way, didn’t the GOP raise a huge fucking brouhaha over the idea of Hillary’s lawyers being the ones who reviewed her emails and determined which were official and which were personal? I could have sworn I remember them screaming bloody murder that she would withhold any emails from investigators and laughed at the suggestion that those emails might contain little more than recipes or gossip.

Not HER lawyers but an independent law firm.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:56:34pm

re: #203 goddamnedfrank

OMFG WHAT???!!!

*faints*

That’s some mighty pricey hooch.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:57:43pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:57:54pm

re: #203 goddamnedfrank

OMFG WHAT???!!!

*faints*

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:58:12pm

re: #232 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s some mighty pricey hooch.

Sort of thing you sip while you’re relaxing by the pool painting.

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wrenchwench  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:59:30pm

re: #235 Decatur Deb

Sort of thing you sip while you’re relaxing by the pool painting.

Nice two-day tie-in. You’ve still got it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 4:59:45pm

re: #233 Patricia Kayden

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Before election: “This is not a political stunt! We are sending these troops to the border because they have a vital mission to perform for our national security!”

After election: “Already, they’ve put down the single row of concertina wire, time to bring them home!”

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fern01  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:01:25pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

Watched Nicole Wallace while reading here and I am wondering about something.

Does Donald J. Trump have one single redeeming character trait?

I can’t think of one single thing, but that may be due to listening and reading the really stupid shit he has said over the last few days. And it all points to his questionable character.

Our asshole president is one flawed human being.

He is damn lucky his father gave him money to pad his pitiful life. Because if he ever had to trust other people to hire him and keep him employed, or use his service or labor in a trusting manner, he would maybe be good enough to rake leaves on a landscaping crew. Maybe.

And is it any wonder that he cannot “make deals” with other countries around the world. The only trade deals, defense deals are those that were negotiated prior to him taking office - that he has not abandoned. No-one of integrity trusts him to make a deal, let alone keep to it. The latest disaster as per Pence fighting with China at the APEC Summit. They have zero understanding of world politics.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:01:32pm
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:01:40pm

re: #236 wrenchwench

Rake in the kudos Decatur

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austin_blue  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:02:15pm

re: #229 William Lewis

< While he’s on the floor I grab his glass and run for the door >

And well you should. That’s a +/- $50,000 bottle of Whiskey. I’ll pass and get a bottle of 12-year old bottle of Highland Park at +/- $40.00, which is a perfectly delightful dram. Or a 1.5 L bottle of Famous Grouse, which is a half MacAllan and half Highland Park blend for $39.95. Also lovely, for a blend, which is why it is the most popular blended Whiskey in Scotland.

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fern01  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:02:26pm

re: #150 darthstar

i really hope congress subpoenas Don Jr and Ivanka two days before Trump’s SOTU address next year. I want it to have just enough time to sink in and send him off his fucking nut.

He is already off his nut - where does he go from there?

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ipsos  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:02:32pm

re: #237 Targetpractice

Before election: “This is not a political stunt! We are sending these troops to the border because they have a vital mission to perform for our national security!”

After election: “Already, they’ve put down the single row of concertina wire, time to bring them home!”

Almost the sort of thing you’d hope the House Armed Services Committee would investigate in the next Congress…

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teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:03:44pm

$45,000 for 700 ml of scotch whiskey. Decadent isn’t the right word.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:04:31pm

re: #242 fern01

He is already off his nut - where does he go from there?

I found myself wondering that last night as I realized the man’s gone pretty far over the deep end already over the Mueller investigation. I can’t begin to imagine just how frothing insane he’ll go when Don Jr. finds federal agents at his door with a warrant and cuffs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:05:24pm
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austin_blue  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:06:07pm

re: #244 teleskiguy

$45,000 for 700 ml of scotch whiskey. Decadent isn’t the right word.

Stupid is a good word. A good phrase is More Money Than Sense. Give it to a food bank, for Dog’s sake. The English will need it very soon.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:06:17pm

re: #244 teleskiguy

$45,000 for 700 ml of scotch whiskey. Decadent isn’t the right word.

Nice with a pineapple slice and a little umbrella.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:06:24pm

re: #244 teleskiguy

$45,000 for 700 ml of scotch whiskey. Decadent isn’t the right word.

That’s a lot of money, the only way I could enjoy that is to order it at the Trump Tower bar and skip out on the tab.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:07:09pm

re: #248 Decatur Deb

Good with a pineapple slice and a little umbrella.

Ice too! Lots and lots of ice.

And maybe some soda or coca-cola.

//

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MsJ  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:07:10pm

re: #245 Targetpractice

I found myself wondering that last night as I realized the man’s gone pretty far over the deep end already over the Mueller investigation. I can’t begin to imagine just how frothing insane he’ll go when Don Jr. finds federal agents at his door with a warrant and cuffs.

Junior won’t bother him anywhere near as much as the daughter he’d like to fuck.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:07:37pm

re: #239 Single-handed sailor

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Meanwhile, in America, we’re still debating over whether or not it’s a good idea to replace a president famous for ordering the genocide of a race with a woman famous for saving thousands of lives because “identity politics.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:07:39pm

*THUD*

“let down my race”…jeebus

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:07:43pm

re: #244 teleskiguy

$45,000 for 700 ml of scotch whiskey. Decadent isn’t the right word.

I was thinking something more along the lines of Ludicrous.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:07:54pm

Hooch snobbery or useful consumer information? You be the judge!

Scotch Experts Review Cheap Whiskey
“fingernail polish remover”
“sweaty socks”
“This is not whisky”

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:09:47pm

re: #248 Decatur Deb

Nice with a pineapple slice and a little umbrella.

No monocle or top hat?

//

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teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:10:42pm

Went skiing today. Good thing I was using my rock skis, lots of crunchy sounds emanated from my edges. Hey, the steep stuff is the most fun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:11:00pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:11:07pm

re: #241 austin_blue

And well you should. That’s a +/- $50,000 bottle of Whiskey. I’ll pass and get a bottle of 12-year old bottle of Highland Park at +/- $40.00, which is a perfectly delightful dram. Or a 1.5 L bottle of Famous Grouse, which is a half MacAllan and half Highland Park blend for $39.95. Also lovely, for a blend, which is why it is the most popular blended Whiskey in Scotland.

I can get Famous Grouse here in China by ordering online, and I am forever grateful for the recommendation to try it. ‘Tis a fine tipple.

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fern01  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:11:28pm

re: #223 Targetpractice

“Oh, we didn’t know that this was wrong, we thought it was cool because of Daddy.”

“Alright, well can we review the emails to determine if there is anything in them that is covered under government records laws?”

“Those are privileged! Touch them and my lawyers will eat you alive!”

Emails for me - but not for thee

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:11:51pm

re: #256 Targetpractice

No monocle or top hat?

//

Sombrero and Coco Lopez.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:12:14pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What changed? The fact that he saw the questions he might have to answer and his lawyers realized there’s no fucking way he’d ever be able to stay to the scripted answers without cue cards and/or a teleprompter.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:12:36pm

re: #241 austin_blue

I actually buy Famous Grouse these days. But I remember the $60 glass of 21 year old I once had for my birthday. Amazing water of life…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:14:26pm

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:17:56pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:18:00pm

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Hooch snobbery or useful consumer information? You be the judge!

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“fingernail polish remover”
“sweaty socks”
“This is not whisky”

“Nail polish remover” is how I always described Christian Brothers brandy….

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:18:35pm

re: #261 Decatur Deb

Sombrero and Coco Lopez.

I’ll Allow it Senor Chang (Better Quality)

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:18:51pm

Caught the opener for My Brilliant Friend. It’s not at all like anything else. Linking the still photo page:

hbo.com

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:20:17pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

Throw a heavy canvas tarp over that, no problem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:20:43pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:22:05pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a victory in that they’ve made it possible for them to control the flow of questioning, shutting down reporters they hate while using their “discretion” to allow those they love to slobber over them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:23:40pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:24:04pm

re: #269 Single-handed sailor

Throw a heavy canvas tarp over that, no problem.

Stick a 55 gallon drum under it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:29:15pm

Suggestion for the press corps: The first time Donny tries to ignore a question by going “That’s a stupid question” or any variation of such and muscling forwards, the next reporter picked should either say “I’d like to yield my question back to my colleague who didn’t get an answer” or simply repeat the question just asked. Neither of those are against these new “rules” and both would immediately send Cheeto Benito into a rage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:31:55pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:34:18pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

My Arkansas rescue dog that we got three weeks ago is discovering snow in New England. God, she loves to jam her snout in the snow and discover the wonders it covers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:37:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:42:11pm

we’ve seen this video before, but it’s brilliant with the Rocky theme

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:43:41pm

I’m not a big fan of whiskeys and bourbons. I’ll tolerate a scotch every now and then, but gin is my thing.

The Mrs. loves her some bourbons and whiskeys. Think we’re heading to a bunch of Hudson Valley distilleries this weekend. Hillrock has some that were on the pricey side, but you know where the money is going. This is the kind of sipper that even with a single ice cube would be proud to call home. Incredibly smooth and irresistible.

$80-100 per bottle. A very nice birthday gift if you ask me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:44:46pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:45:19pm

Hoo boy…

In an exclusive interview with HillReporter, alleged Mueller rape accuser Carolyne Cass opens up and tells us that she does not know if Mueller was actually the person who raped her and that both Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman published and shared, against her will, ‘inaccurate’ statements during a November 1st press conference. Cass, who doesn’t deny being raped during the time period that Wohl and Burkman claimed, admits multiple errors in the published accusation document and doesn’t recall if she ever personally signed the report. In fact, Cass was assured by Burkman and Wohl that the document would “never be released.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:46:27pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

we’ve seen this video before, but it’s brilliant with the Rocky theme

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:48:12pm

re: #281 Targetpractice

Cass strikes me as someone who will say anything to gain attention and get her name in the public eye. She seems to have no definite occupation, other than trying to glom onto the rich and famous by any means possible.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:48:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:49:42pm

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:50:39pm

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:51:00pm

Our new family member!

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:52:25pm
Hope you’ll indulge me one more. She wants a walk on this snowy night!
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:53:13pm

Trump has found a new distraction from his administration’s rampant criminality and corruption: go after Venezuela!

The Trump administration is preparing to add Venezuela to the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism in what would be a dramatic escalation against the socialist government of Nicolás Maduro, according to U.S. officials and internal government emails.

The list is reserved for governments accused of repeatedly providing “support for acts of international terrorism” and includes only Iran, North Korea, Sudan and Syria.

Republican lawmakers led by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) have pushed for the designation, citing Venezuela’s alleged ties to Lebanese Hezbollah, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, and other groups.

Republicans have long accused Venezuela of having ties to terrorist organizations. But experts have played down the threat and strength of those connections. They warn that a designation that does not offer concrete evidence could weaken the legitimacy of the U.S. list, which critics say already is applied inconsistently.

“I suspect this will be based on hearsay and sources of questionable integrity,” said David Smilde, a senior fellow at the Washington Office on Latin America.

washingtonpost.com

I love the quote at the end of my excerpt. Mr Smilde has got the Trump administration’s number.

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MsJ  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:53:43pm

re: #288 Barefoot Grin

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Hope you’ll indulge me one more. She wants a walk on this snowy night!

Does she like listening to records? Ya know… On a phonograph? 😉

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:55:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:55:44pm
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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:56:19pm

re: #284 Charles Johnson

Fun fact about that album - it begins and ends on the same chord, so if you put the CD on repeat, the chord fades out at the end, then back in at the start of the album.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:56:29pm

I like Rabia more and more each day.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:57:53pm

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NRA: “Oh, if only the doctors had been armed…”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 5:59:47pm

re: #295 Targetpractice

NRA: “Oh, if only the doctors had been armed…”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:00:53pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:03:17pm
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plansbandc  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:04:17pm

re: #287 Barefoot Grin

Precious!!

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:06:08pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

There were cops in the hospital. One was murdered.

A doc was murdered.

A third person was murdered. The gunman is dead.

All told, four people are dead. Why? Well, all signs point to a domestic violence situation.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:07:18pm

re: #283 wheat-dogg

I see another woman — this time an aspiring actress from Estonia — has come forward alleging Avenatti hit her. Or maybe it’s the same woman. Hard to keep track nowadays.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:08:37pm

re: #301 wheat-dogg

SMOTI’s pushing that for all it’s worth.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:08:42pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Look, kids, you can watch a political career augur into the ground in real time.

//

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:08:50pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:10:48pm

re: #304 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Donny loves to cite Rasmussen when he wants to bullshit about how his approval rating is above water. I don’t doubt for a second he believed that Rasmussen’s poll meant that a “red wave” was coming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:14:03pm

re: #303 Targetpractice

Look, kids, you can watch a political career augur into the ground in real time.

//

yep. Moulton is not having a very good night:

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gwangung  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:19:24pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. Moulton is not having a very good night:

This is even sillier than attacking Pelosi from the left. Not even close to reading the mood of the voters, son….

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:21:27pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. Moulton is not having a very good night:

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:22:39pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. Moulton is not having a very good night:

[Embedded content]

I strongly suspect the plan between Ryan and Moulton was to get some measure of power as having “defeated” the dreaded Pelosi and thus position themselves as power-brokers in time for their 2020 presidential runs (yes, Ryan’s announced plans and Moulton’s rumored).

If that was their cunning plan, then it’s going about as well as Blackadder’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:22:57pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:23:30pm

Ocasio black bean soup recipe
instagram.com

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:25:30pm

I’d like to see just one reporter ask Moulton out loud “Who else is running? Not who you’d like to see run or think should run, because if they haven’t announced then they’re not running.”

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:26:34pm

Reason enough

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:30:22pm

re: #290 MsJ

Does she like listening to records? Ya know… On a phonograph? 😉

I know, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:33:23pm

needs a lightning bolt…

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:36:37pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

needs a lightning bolt…

How does she not spontaneously combust?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:38:21pm

insert obvious lame joke about identifying marks:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:39:18pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:40:20pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:41:22pm

He must know the troops really, really hate him.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:45:25pm

re: #320 The Vicious Babushka

He must know the troops really, really hate him.

[Embedded content]

And the other day, the palace intrigue circuit was saying that he didn’t want to go because he “didn’t think the troops should be there.”

Really, what we’re getting is a list of excuses for why he’s chickening out of doing something that every president has done for decades. Shit, even Nixon made visits to Vietnam, both as VP and then Pres.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:45:54pm

re: #320 The Vicious Babushka

He must know the troops really, really hate him.

“He’s never been interested in going,” a former senior White House official said of Trump visiting troops in a combat zone, citing conversations with the president. “He’s afraid of those situations. He’s afraid people want to kill him.”

Not just there….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:48:55pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:51:50pm

re: #93 jaunte

Are we winning yet?

No.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:52:29pm

re: #323 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

“MIDDLE EASTERN TERRORISTS!!!!”

“Bangladesh is technically part of the Far Ea…”

“They got brown skin and they’re not Americans! That makes them potential terrorists! Thank God Trump stopped them from entering the US!”

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MsJ  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:53:22pm

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

insert obvious lame joke about identifying marks:

Uhm…wow. That guy is something.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:53:51pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:54:38pm

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

insert obvious lame joke about identifying marks:

[Embedded content]

“How Nature Says ‘Don’t Touch’”

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:54:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:56:42pm

“I’d rather it be considered separately on the Senate floor,” Collins told Sahil Kapur‏, a political reporter for Bloomberg, in response to Democrats’ intent to attach the special counsel bill to another “must-pass” spending bill. “I don’t want anything that could lead to a shutdown.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:57:50pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Speaking of political careers auguring into the ground…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 6:58:07pm
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:00:03pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Barbed wire always reminds me of Hollywood westerns and Lucinda Williams

Lucinda Concrete and Barbed Wire

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:00:03pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:00:23pm

I’m just going to assume that Collins is planning to bow out after this term, because in the current political environment and in light of events two weeks ago, the idea that she can win reelection in NE by being Donny’s footstool is laughable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:00:47pm

the rest of the thread is pretty good.

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:01:23pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:05:25pm
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:07:12pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:08:54pm

re: #338 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Needless to say, Ivanka is the worst Cersei Lannister cosplayer ever.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:09:54pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:09:56pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

the rest of the thread is pretty good.

So I guess the word “mirepoix” would be lost on them. Or “sofrito”. Or “Cajun trinity”….

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:11:16pm

A dKos diary just posted saying that UT-4 has finally flipped in favor of the Democrat (Mia Love’s now-former seat): if formalized, it looks like the final makeup of the House in the 116th will be 233-202 (D +38). IiRC, I predicted a 234-201 split on Election Eve: but hey, no one’s perfect…..

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TedStriker  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:14:42pm

re: #342 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So I guess the word “mirepoix” would be lost on them. Or “sofrito”. Or “Cajun trinity”….

I’m 43 and I only know those terms because of Alton Brown.

To that effect, anyone else watching Good Eats Reloaded and are jazzed for the full-on revival next year, Return of the Eats? I’m a “hell yeah!” on both.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:15:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:16:27pm
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fern01  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:17:41pm

re: #338 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

But President Obama had to know every last rule before he could even be a candidate. Things are different for democrats

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:17:58pm

Later gators, gotta riff with my spliff and play bingo on my bongos

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:18:35pm

re: #344 TedStriker

I’m 43 and I only know those terms because of Alton Brown.

To that effect, anyone else watching Good Eats Reloaded and are jazzed for the full-on revival next year, Return of the Eats? I’m a “hell yeah” on both.

I just binged Netflix- Salt, Fat, Heat Acid. Pretty good stuff.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:18:51pm

re: #338 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Hillary’s emails: “Ignorance of the law is no excuse!”

Ivanka’s emails: “Who cares? She’s not president!”

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:21:07pm

Sep: “We are going to do everything to help these farmers hurt by China’s unfair trade practices!”

Now: “Hey now, there’s no need to rush things.”

Less than $900 million of a $12 billion bailout program has actually been given to U.S. producers.

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ipsos  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:27:21pm

re: #343 Jay C

A dKos diary just posted saying that UT-4 has finally flipped in favor of the Democrat (Mia Love’s now-former seat): if formalized, it looks like the final makeup of the House in the 116th will be 233-202 (D +38). IiRC, I predicted a 234-201 split on Election Eve: but hey, no one’s perfect…..

Hang tight.

Chris Collins’ district in western NY still hasn’t been certified. Erie County, the blue part of that district, doesn’t do its recount until tomorrow. It’s unlikely but not impossible that the final count will tip away from the crook and hand the seat to Democrat Nate McMurray.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:27:21pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:27:25pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

holy hell

Indeed.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:40:31pm
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DodgerFan1988  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:41:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:41:22pm

re: #351 Targetpractice

Sep: “We are going to do everything to help these farmers hurt by China’s unfair trade practices!”

Now: “Hey now, there’s no need to rush things.”

Be great if rural America turned on his sorry ass so he won’t even feel safe at his rallies.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:41:26pm
359
plansbandc  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:41:56pm

The Denver shooting was about four blocks from my mom’s apartment.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:42:09pm

re: #356 DodgerFan1988

Jeezus.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:43:01pm

re: #355 jaunte

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:44:35pm

re: #361 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ivanka Trump’s Emails Could Provide New Democratic House With Fodder

Because that’s what the story is all about, NYT?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:48:07pm

I cannot believe how fast her car was going.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:48:35pm
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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:50:49pm

re: #363 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I cannot believe how fast her car was going.

I’ve read that her brakes had failed and she was attempting to rub off speed against the wall when she hit/was hit by (unclear) another car and then went flying.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:51:55pm
367
goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:53:00pm

The last thing we need is another entitled rich white dude.

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:53:08pm

re: #363 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I cannot believe how fast her car was going.

Saw this on the evening news: I can’t believe how airborne her car became. Also, that she survived AND will probably live to walk - and drive - and probably race again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:53:20pm
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freetoken  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:59:23pm

re: #367 goddamnedfrank

The last thing we need is another entitled rich white dude.

But they are the ones God (the oldest, richest, white dude) chose to lead humanity.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2018 • 7:59:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:03:01pm

re: #367 goddamnedfrank

The last thing we need is another entitled rich white dude.

Yeah pass.

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freetoken  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:03:02pm

Speaking of rich old white guys, Kate over at McMansion Hell posted this on election day to try and get the younguns out to vote:

Image: tumblr_phs4lovWNB1vc4lrro1_1280.png

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:04:47pm

Props to Oliver. That was one of the best warnings on authoritarianism I’ve seen in this country. Definitely think he’s been doing some reading because he’s totally got the signs down perfectly.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:07:09pm

re: #371 jaunte

Given Trump’s views on the press, it would not shock me at all. Remember that Khashoggi criticized Trump too. Wouldn’t be shocked at all if that’s part of why he’s been so defensive of the Saudi government on this.

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retired cynic  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:08:20pm

re: #375 HappyWarrior

Somebody earlier was wondering if, considering all the commandments that DT had broken, he had not had a murder somewhere on his plate. Well….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:10:48pm

re: #376 retired cynic

Somebody earlier was wondering if, considering all the commandments that DT had broken, he had not had a murder somewhere on his plate. Well….

I think Trump would be too chicken shit to ever murder someone personally but would gladly turn a blind eye to it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:15:00pm

Oliver did highlight to me the disturbing thing. The people who’d want tyranny in our country. I’m a liberal but first and above all I’m a democrat.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:21:19pm

re: #366 jaunte

Yeah, this is about where I expect the media to go with this, mumbling about how Ivanka’s actions could (nay, likely) constitute a crime, before roaring that the DNC cannot condemn her and defend Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:26:09pm

re: #379 Targetpractice

Yeah, this is about where I expect the media to go with this, mumbling about how Ivanka’s actions could (nay, likely) constitute a crime, before roaring that the DNC cannot condemn her and defend Hillary.

All the while ignoring the GOP who will defend her who acted like HRC should have received a prison sentence. The Dems will rightfully point out the hypocrisy.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:27:09pm

The president is aiding a cover up of a murder, and not a god damned thing is going to be done about it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:31:29pm

re: #381 Ace Rothstein

The president is aiding a cover up of a murder, and not a god damned thing is going to be done about it.

Well, you know, it’s not as dire a matter as investigating whether wild-eyed claims about Obama personally watching the deaths of 4 Americans in Benghazi were true. That shit deserved 9 Congressional investigations, hundreds of hours of testimony, tens of thousands of documents, and an 11 hour interrogation of the former Secretary of State.

///////

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:40:52pm

re: #368 Jay C

Saw this on the evening news: I can’t believe how airborne her car became. Also, that she survived AND will probably live to walk - and drive - and probably race again.

It’s a testimony to how safe these cars are now. Had it been even 40 years ago, I doubt she could have survived.

As I understood it, Sophia was trying to scrub off speed by sideswiping the guardrail, when one of her wheels touched the wheel of another car while both were doing more than 150 mph. Like a rock in a sling, she went flying.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:41:57pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

I think Trump would be too chicken shit to ever murder someone personally but would gladly turn a blind eye to it.

He’d ask Kelly to do it … in a tweet.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:47:51pm

Trump is scared of going to Iraq/Afghanistan. No out when he’s in a foul mood. It’s not likely to rain.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2018 • 8:49:22pm

re: #385 GlutenFreeJesus

Trump is scared of going to Iraq/Afghanistan. No out when he’s in a foul mood. It’s not likely to rain.

He’s a coward supported by other cowards.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2018 • 9:14:09pm

re: #367 goddamnedfrank

The last thing we need is another entitled rich white dude.

Maybe it’s just me (hint: it’s not), but I’d like somebody with proven government experience.

If anybody’s heart is set on a self-funded billionaire… might I suggest Michael Bloomberg?

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2018 • 9:16:15pm

re: #365 William Lewis

I’ve read that her brakes had failed and she was attempting to rub off speed against the wall when she hit/was hit by (unclear) another car and then went flying.

I saw some video of what started the crash. Let’s see if this embed works.

Hey it worked.

I think there is some question as to why she hit the other car to start her skid out of control. Did the driver in front of her she hit lets up or have a mechanical problem.

She lost the wheel and it pitched 180 backwards into the wall. So, no braking at all. She was on a ride at that point.

The the car she hit didn’t even know it was coming. And she was launched off his wheel.

Iframe

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austin_blue  Nov 19, 2018 • 9:20:10pm

re: #363 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I cannot believe how fast her car was going.

Brake failure, maybe, throttle jam, probably. Nobody fucks the dog that badly without a mechanical failure. Glad no-one got killed.

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John Hughes  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:49:24am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

If Ron Chernow had any balls he’d get Michelle Wolf to help him write the speech.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:55:55pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

Add some carrots and onions and you’ve got the nice base for a soup or sauce.


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