Absolutely Disgusting: Trump Gives Saudi Arabia a Pass for Brutally Murdering and Dismembering a Journalist

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Anyone paying attention saw this coming.

Donald Trump is infatuated with dictators and loves the idea of a strongman murdering journalists who offend him — especially if the strongman is obscenely wealthy. It’s one more warning siren among many that the President* of the United States is a dangerous sociopath.

Here’s the statement this vile human being released today, explaining that money is more important than human life, who knows if they did it anyway, and hey, maybe he deserved it, right?

Office of the Press Secretary

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
November 20, 2018
Statement from President Donald J. Trump on Standing with Saudi Arabia

America First!

The world is a very dangerous place!

The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen, trying to destabilize Iraq’s fragile attempt at democracy, supporting the terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon, propping up dictator Bashar Assad in Syria (who has killed millions of his own citizens), and much more. Likewise, the Iranians have killed many Americans and other innocent people throughout the Middle East. Iran states openly, and with great force, “Death to America!” and “Death to Israel!” Iran is considered “the world’s leading sponsor of terror.”

On the other hand, Saudi Arabia would gladly withdraw from Yemen if the Iranians would agree to leave. They would immediately provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance. Additionally, Saudi Arabia has agreed to spend billions of dollars in leading the fight against Radical Islamic Terrorism.

After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year, the Kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States. This is a record amount of money. It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs, tremendous economic development, and much additional wealth for the United States. Of the $450 billion, $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and many other great U.S. defense contractors. If we foolishly cancel these contracts, Russia and China would be the enormous beneficiaries - and very happy to acquire all of this newfound business. It would be a wonderful gift to them directly from the United States!

The crime against Jamal Khashoggi was a terrible one, and one that our country does not condone. Indeed, we have taken strong action against those already known to have participated in the murder. After great independent research, we now know many details of this horrible crime. We have already sanctioned 17 Saudis known to have been involved in the murder of Mr. Khashoggi, and the disposal of his body.

Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi was an “enemy of the state” and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but my decision is in no way based on that — this is an unacceptable and horrible crime. King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning or execution of the murder of Mr. Khashoggi. Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event — maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!

That being said, we may never know all of the facts surrounding the murder of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi. In any case, our relationship is with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They have been a great ally in our very important fight against Iran. The United States intends to remain a steadfast partner of Saudi Arabia to ensure the interests of our country, Israel and all other partners in the region. It is our paramount goal to fully eliminate the threat of terrorism throughout the world!

I understand there are members of Congress who, for political or other reasons, would like to go in a different direction - and they are free to do so. I will consider whatever ideas are presented to me, but only if they are consistent with the absolute security and safety of America. After the United States, Saudi Arabia is the largest oil producing nation in the world. They have worked closely with us and have been very responsive to my requests to keeping oil prices at reasonable levels — so important for the world. As President of the United States I intend to ensure that, in a very dangerous world, America is pursuing its national interests and vigorously contesting countries that wish to do us harm. Very simply it is called America First!

UPDATE at 11/20/18 11:55:42 am by Charles Johnson
UPDATE at 11/20/18 1:26:56 pm by Charles Johnson

David Laufman is the former chief of counterintelligence at the Department of Justice’s National Security Division.

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361 comments
1
Alephnaught  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:49:25am

From dead thread:

Probably been said already been said already, but Raking in Finland is a rather good band name. They could call their debut album “A Weird Lie About Raking in Finland”.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:50:32am

New plank in the Republican platform. “We can support torture and murder if it’s somebody we do not want to like.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:51:05am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:51:10am
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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:52:37am
The Saudis throttled back drilling last month after agreeing with OPEC, Russia and several other producers to put more barrels on the market in June. The kingdom is facing pressure from big oil consuming nations like China and India, as well as the Trump administration, to tamp down fuel costs ahead of the renewal of U.S. sanctions on Iran, OPEC’s third biggest producer.

President Donald Trump is aiming to cut Iran’s oil exports to zero by November, a policy that threatens to leave the world short of oil and boost prices at the pump if OPEC and Russia cannot fill the gap. A group of two dozen oil-producing nations has been limiting its production since January 2017 in order to drain oversupply, but has scaled back that policy in light of the Iranian sanctions and output declines in places like Venezuela and Angola.
cnbc.com

Trump is bringing his fabled business expertise to bear on the world energy supply,
which is a guarantee that everything will get less efficient and more expensive.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:54:41am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I see the Saudi bots are replacing the Russia bots.

Also:
“1. We don’t know who killed the journalist or if the Saudi’s did it. What about due process?”
2. Yeah the Saudis did it and it was spectacular.
3. The murderers are heroes and will be guest speakers at our next Values Voters Summit.”

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:55:11am

Trump, fuck you and your whole fucking family.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:56:46am

So is Trey Gowdy Doody still shivering under his desk and not doing his f’n job?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:56:53am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

“We don’t really know who killed Khashoggi, could have been anybody….due process….but we do know he was a lying no good Muslim Brotherhood terrorist.”
/

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Alephnaught  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:57:01am

re: #2 Single-handed sailor

New plank in the Republican platform. “We can support torture and murder if it’s somebody we do not want to like.”

Is it actually new? Surely that bridge was crossed with “enhanced interrogation techniques” in the GWB administration. They’re just more upfront about it now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 20, 2018 • 11:58:21am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

The Fraktur is a nice touch.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:00:40pm
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bd(soros funded)  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:00:53pm

AMERICAN VALUES! SHINING CITY ON THE HILL! CHRISTIAN NATION!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:02:12pm
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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:02:22pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:02:39pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Wow, that Invisible Hand Of The Free Market is falling down on the job!

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William Lewis  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:03:52pm

So has this weapons deal for the Saudi regime been passed by the House? If not, there could be a very interesting problem for Mango Mussolini.

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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:03:53pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Please tell me that’s a parody account…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:04:00pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

Wow, that Invisible Hand Of The Free Market is falling down on the job!

e coli poisoning is a small price to pay for economic freedom…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:05:13pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Again? I was hoping they had cleared this up.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:05:14pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

Wow, that Invisible Hand Of The Free Market is falling down on the job!

Apparently, they didn’t wash it after going to the bathroom.
/

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:05:49pm

re: #18 Archangelus

Please tell me that’s a parody account…

No way to know for sure, but it doesn’t look like it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:06:05pm

re: #18 Archangelus

Please tell me that’s a parody account…

It is

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:06:23pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Well, the kids were right - don’t eat salad. /

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:06:38pm

re: #17 William Lewis

So has this weapons deal for the Saudi regime been passed by the House? If not, there could be a very interesting problem for Mango Mussolini.

From what I’ve read, most of it was in place during the Obama administration.

$100B has been added since Fatboy took over.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:10:01pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:10:24pm

He seems stupid.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:12:08pm

re: #18 Archangelus

Please tell me that’s a parody account…

re: #22 Charles Johnson

No way to know for sure, but it doesn’t look like it.

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is

A clear example of Poe’s law!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:13:50pm

re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter

I looked through his tweets, and it’s almost certainly not a parody. No sign of that. But he does like Judicial Watch quite a bit - most of the tweets I saw seemed to be RTs of JW.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:13:51pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:13:53pm

This is such bullshit anyway:

Of the $450 billion, $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and many other great U.S. defense contractors. If we foolishly cancel these contracts, Russia and China would be the enormous beneficiaries - and very happy to acquire all of this newfound business. It would be a wonderful gift to them directly from the United States!

Saudi Arabia is totally committed to US military equipment, and it would take them 20 years to convert to Russian or Chinese suppliers—even if either one were capable of producing the cutting-edge weapons they want in the quantities they need, which Russia certainly is not. Chinese equipment is less advanced, and they probably have trouble filling their own inventory. SA going to Russia or China is an empty threat if there ever was one.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:14:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:16:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:17:24pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Awesome

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:17:52pm

re: #31 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:18:23pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:22:00pm

The United States of America, new best friend to dictators and murderous despots the world over.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:27:17pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Senator Turtle McConnell: Not necessary!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:27:35pm

Also, that statement is horribly written but it seems
marginally better than Trumps usual blather.

I’m guessing some poor bastard had to listen to him ramble on for a few minutes and then try to transcribe what he said and attempt make it readable.

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retired cynic  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:29:06pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

ARGH! And I’m supposed to do the salad for Thanksgiving. Bibb, here I come.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:29:53pm
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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:30:26pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, that statement is horribly written but it seems
marginally better than Trumps usual blather.

I’m guessing some poor bastard had to listen to him ramble on for a few minutes and then try to transcribe what he said and attempt make it readable.

Quite possibly one of the worst jobs in America right about now…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:31:09pm

re: #42 Archangelus

Quite possibly one of the worst jobs in America right about now…

yeah, well, they all knew what they signed up for…

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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:33:46pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah, well, they all knew what they signed up for…

True for the most part, but I rather doubt that some poor transcriber who may have had to do this thankless task knew what he/she was getting into in advance (especially if it’s someone from before 2016)…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:34:44pm
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Jay C  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:35:41pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, that statement is horribly written but it seems
marginally better than Trumps usual blather.

I’m guessing some poor bastard had to listen to him ramble on for a few minutes and then try to transcribe

And yet it still came out sounding like disjointed arglebargle larded with cliches and almost casual betrayals-of-principle.

IOW, a typical Trump speech….

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MsJ  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:36:03pm

Damn…CL’d the last thread.

re: #263 HappyWarrior

RE: Jennifer Rubin….

i guess this is why I do give Jen credit. I know we rightfully have a lot of skepticism of Never-Trumpers like Jen but I think she’s better than most of them who will offer a tepid criticism and attempt at rationalization. She’s also called out the entire GOP not just Trump.

They all ought to do the same. But don’t forget that she helped build this. They all did. This usurpation of power did not happen in a vacuum. The GOPers who tore down Obama at every turn (and Clinton before him, as they could) helped pave the way for what is happening now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:36:17pm

The Rude Pundit:

Trump’s Completely Batshit and Evil Statement About Saudi Arabia and the Murder of Jamal Khashoggi

In conclusion:

The pathetic hope I have now is that the IC is so fucking pissed off at this fucker that they finally go apeshit on him. “You wanna see the Deep State in action, motherfucker? Buckle up, buttercup!”

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MsJ  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:40:36pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Mattis…Gone in 60 Seconds.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:40:44pm

re: #44 Archangelus

True for the most part, but I rather doubt that some poor transcriber who may have had to do this thankless task knew what he/she was getting into in advance (especially if it’s someone from before 2016)…

I once had to transcribe a session at an actuarial conference where the speaker was totally incoherent. It was a nightmare; I passed my text on to the moderator (who was the person who had made the mistake of inviting this panelist) and the final product was nothing like the ramblings of the professor; in that case, the published text did not even make the same points as the speaker.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:45:03pm

So many lies in so few characters.

so this is a parody account labeled as such.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:46:00pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

“Well, the Caravan from Hell was a true national crisis that has, um, well it’s still coming…or it’s already here somewhere and um, there are people…illegal, build the wall, uh, yeah hey look over there…”

//

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:46:53pm

re: #47 MsJ

Damn…CL’d the last thread.

RE: Jennifer Rubin….

They all ought to do the same. But don’t forget that she helped build this. They all did. This usurpation of power did not happen in a vacuum. The GOPers who tore down Obama at every turn (and Clinton before him, as they could) helped pave the way for what is happening now.

But some of them may have actually learned from their experience; yes they helped build this but they were blind to where it led. They were so in thrall to the conservative mantra that they did not understand what it really meant. Let’s give credit to those who may now have awakened from their trance and realize the evil of what they built. Jen and Max Boot certainly seem to have found their way.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:47:15pm

re: #51 I Would Prefer Not To

Hillary sold nuclear material though hers like a Ponzi scheme

I appear to be several conspiracy theories behind on my wingnut conspiracy theory reading list.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:48:04pm

re: #51 I Would Prefer Not To

So many lies in so few characters.

Fake.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:49:09pm

re: #51 I Would Prefer Not To

Pretty obvious fake when it spells it “realise.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:49:27pm

re: #51 I Would Prefer Not To

So many lies in so few characters.

GFY Lumpy you principle lacking Trump toady.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:49:31pm

re: #54 Sir John Barron

I appear to be several conspiracy theories behind on my wingnut conspiracy theory reading list.

Isn’t that just the ancient Uranium One scandal?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:49:45pm

re: #55 Mike Lamb

Fake.

Ah!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:50:54pm

re: #47 MsJ

Damn…CL’d the last thread.

RE: Jennifer Rubin….

They all ought to do the same. But don’t forget that she helped build this. They all did. This usurpation of power did not happen in a vacuum. The GOPers who tore down Obama at every turn (and Clinton before him, as they could) helped pave the way for what is happening now.

True true. I just think she should get some credit.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:51:14pm

It is fake, but I don’t know how bad spelling would give it away. I think good spelling might.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:53:01pm

re: #61 I Would Prefer Not To

It is fake, but I don’t know how bad spelling would give it away. I think good spelling might.

So it’s a parody site… but it does sound exactly like something Sean would say.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:53:56pm

re: #61 I Would Prefer Not To

It is fake, but I don’t know how bad spelling would give it away. I think good spelling might.

Yeah I wouldn’t trust correct spelling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:54:56pm
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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:55:17pm

re: #54 Sir John Barron

I appear to be several conspiracy theories behind on my wingnut conspiracy theory reading list.

it’s a conspiracy theory that there’s a list

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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:56:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:56:15pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

FFS.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:57:03pm

God even his statement is the same ambivalent crap.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:57:24pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can’t wait for this guy to get a gavel.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:59:09pm

re: #69 Sir John Barron

Can’t wait for this guy to get a gavel.

Indeed!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 12:59:38pm

Harry is in hospital in Canada, and John is tweeting constant updates. It really does not sound good.

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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:00:22pm

Seriously, f*ck this asshole!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:01:09pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

Harry is in hospital in Canada, and is tweeting constant updates. It really does not sound good.

Oh no. If this is the end, may your final moments be peaceful for you and yours Harry. And thank you for being a wise link to the past.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:02:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:02:17pm

re: #72 Archangelus

Seriously, f*ck this asshole!

You’re a jackass. They’re willing to spend their holidays apart but fuck you dismissive fucker who has never sacrificed at all.

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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:02:53pm

re: #72 Archangelus

Seriously, f*ck this asshole!

Trump says troops on border are ‘tough people’ and don’t need to spend Thanksgiving with their families

trump is close to saying only weak people spend thanksgiving with their families

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:03:08pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sorry: as much as I generally like Adam Schiff and his Twitter ripostes to GOP crap, I think he’s a bit off on this one: the US’ “role as a champion of human rights” has always been a highly specific and situational one: said situation normally being whether or not the HR “offender” is a US ally or not. Or whether or not the victims of HR abuses are deemed to have “deserved it”: usually for some ideological insufficiency. The Trump Admin’s policy really doesn’t seem that much different, just - as typical for Trump badly-articulated to the point of imbecility.

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:03:46pm
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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:04:25pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck Schumer
“Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t”?!

You can’t just throw in some exclamations (!!!!), yell that the world is dangerous, and call it a press release.

That’s not how a U.S. President responds to the murder of a journalist and American resident.

sadly, chuck, yes. now that is how a US president responds.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:04:43pm

This statement sounds like a middle schooler wrote it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:05:21pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This statement sounds like a middle schooler wrote it.

The only way his supporters can understand him.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:05:46pm

There are bad people okay but none as bad as failing cnn and the lying New York Times.//

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:10:38pm

re: #10 Alephnaught

Is it actually new? Surely that bridge was crossed with “enhanced interrogation techniques” in the GWB administration. They’re just more upfront about it now.

GWB and Cheney had the good sense to try to keep it secret. (not that that actually worked… but they knew it was a good idea and they tried).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:11:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:12:38pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:12:51pm

re: #77 Jay C

Sorry: as much as I generally like Adam Schiff and his Twitter ripostes to GOP crap, I think he’s a bit off on this one: the US’ “role as a champion of human rights” has always been a highly specific and situational one: said situation normally being whether or not the HR “offender” is a US ally or not. Or whether or not the victims of HR abuses are deemed to have “deserved it”: usually for some ideological insufficiency. The Trump Admin’s policy really doesn’t seem that much different, just - as typical for Trump badly-articulated to the point of imbecility.

We have not had a stellar record in defending human rights; and, yes, we can be accused of hypocrisy here but no one has been as blatant as Trump. In the past though, it usually was due to security concerns and not to the money we would make on a sale to a malevolent regime. But Trumpsters really don’t care; whatever Trump says is truth and, in any case, we shouldn’t be worrying about what other countries do. It’s each nation for itself. MAGA!! America First!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:13:41pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

You guys deserve it. Wise beyond your years. We’re sorry that your state failed you by electing a Trump cheerleader and a crook as governor and senator. Keep fighting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:13:46pm

re: #72 Archangelus

Seriously, f*ck this asshole!

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gocart mozart  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:14:18pm
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William Lewis  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:14:23pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This statement sounds like a middle schooler wrote it.

Yeah, it is awfully well written for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:14:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:14:33pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh I see Donald how it is. It’s all about your money in KSA. You’re a failure of a human being.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:15:37pm
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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:19:47pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump on who should be TIME’s person of the year: “It’s called person of the year, right? It’s no longer man of the year, right?…I don’t know…I can’t imagine anybody else other than Trump. Can you imagine anybody other than Trump? Huh? Have a good time, everybody.” End.

the guy is a total energy suck

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:20:17pm
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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:21:43pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:22:23pm

re: #72 Archangelus

Seriously, f*ck this asshole!

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Is Trump going to go visit them like Bush & Obama did?

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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:22:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:23:14pm
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nines09  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:23:19pm

re: #96 Archangelus

We are having fish.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:23:29pm

re: #95 makeitstop

Trump will attack him and the GOP won’t care.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:24:04pm

re: #98 Archangelus

Jamal Khashoggi.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:24:10pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

“They have nothing definitive…If you look at Iran, what they’ve done…”

So, on Saudi Arabia involvement “nothing definitive”, but as for Iran, well, “we know everything they’ve done, very bad things.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:24:20pm

re: #98 Archangelus

Yeah someone who actually gained Congressional seats. God you’re a narcissistic asshole.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:25:01pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We will have DECORUM in this establishment!”

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:25:03pm

re: #96 Archangelus

Secret ingredient is romaine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:25:19pm

thread

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:26:17pm
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:26:31pm

Yep. Accomplice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:28:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:28:29pm

re: #109 makeitstop

Yep. Accomplice.

Accomplice after the fact at the absolute best scenario. You can’t tell me he wasn’t told that Khashoggi was critical of him when the Saudis were looking at nabbing him.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:29:35pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:29:44pm

Oh look. It’s Mike Schmidt of the New York Times on Nicole being asked about Ivanka’s emails.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:30:27pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

You don’t say it is what it is to that shit. Fucking asshole.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:30:51pm

Meanwhile…

Mueller never sleeps, motherfucker.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:31:31pm

re: #115 makeitstop

Meanwhile…

Mueller never sleeps, motherfucker.

Black Friday indictment?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:31:58pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

“Banality of evil, y’all!”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:33:43pm

It is what is. You say that when your meal is late not when a man is brutally murdered. Fucking evil pig.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:33:45pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Black Friday indictment?

I’d prefer tomorrow, for the sole purpose of totally fucking up The Accomplice’s holiday.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:34:01pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Accomplice after the fact at the absolute best scenario. You can’t tell me he wasn’t told that Khashoggi wasn’t critical of him when the Saudis were looking at nabbing him.

I agree 100%. I’ve said previously that MBS probably got approval for abducting Khashoggi; am still not sure if Trump was aware of their plans to slaughter him, but the man who said “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” certainly would not care.

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:35:42pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

I take it this means no surprise flight to Afghanistan or Texas to visit the troops.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:36:01pm

re: #119 makeitstop

I’d prefer tomorrow, for the sole purpose of totally fucking up The Accomplice’s holiday.

That’d be fine with me especially if it’s one of the boys.

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:36:13pm

re: #119 makeitstop

I’d prefer tomorrow, for the sole purpose of totally fucking up The Accomplice’s holiday.

Courts are closed for TG weekend. There will be no indictments this week.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:36:31pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

It means he’s going to go on a Twitter rage-athon.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:37:07pm

re: #120 Hecuba’s daughter

I agree 100%. I’ve said previously that MBS probably got approval for abducting Khashoggi; am still not sure if Trump was aware of their plans to slaughter him, but the man who said “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” certainly would not care.

I can hear him- “Go ahead, no one will care. Khashoggi says mean things about me too.”

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:37:14pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump repeats three times that his position on Saudi Arabia is an “America First” stance. He calls Iran a “terrorist nation” and says that the U.S. needs “a counterbalance.”

It sure the fuck wasn’t Iranians who did 9/11.

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:39:57pm

This Mama Mia remake looks like it’ll be terrible.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:40:04pm

The Courts are having enough of Trump’s bulkshit.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:40:36pm

re: #96 Archangelus

I forgot the weed.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:40:37pm

Feel free to distribute.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:40:54pm

Man. These guys were sofa king good. Still amazing.

Jellyfish - That Is Why

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:41:21pm

re: #129 Amory Blaine

I forgot the weed.

Now THAT would make the stuffing fun.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:41:25pm

Courts doing their jobs, part 2: MS edition.

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gocart mozart  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:42:05pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:43:24pm

re: #113 ObserverArt

Oh look. It’s Mike Schmidt of the New York Times on Nicole being asked about Ivanka’s emails.

Picking up from the earlier comment.

Schmidt seems to be saying this Ivanka email story isn’t to the point of Her Emails® because they are different…at this point.

He is saying Her Emails® became a big security issue once Feds found there were emails with classified info in them and residing on her server.

Ivanaka will reach the same type of scandal if it discovered she too had classified info in her emails.

It didn’t seem to be asked what he thinks of this politically so he stayed on the comparison thing.

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plansbandc  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:43:29pm

Ruin Thanksgiving in four words:

The Tofurkey is done!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:44:23pm

re: #134 gocart mozart

She’s been a leader from the start.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:46:01pm

Wow. A high quality 1993 live recording of Jellyfish covering Badfinger’s “No Matter What.” So great.

Jellyfish “No Matter What” live 1993 | 2 Meter Session #355

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:46:03pm

No stuffing, lima beans!

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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:46:04pm

re: #136 plansbandc

Ruin Thanksgiving in four words:

MIL here, outta wine

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:46:44pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Man. These guys were sofa king good. Still amazing.

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Imagine if that record had come out a year earlier. They would have been household names, but instead they got trampled by Grunge.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:47:15pm

re: #130 makeitstop

Replace the brief case with a bone saw and you got it :)

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:47:44pm

re: #134 gocart mozart

Why did Nancy Pelosi march for gay rights in 1987?

BECAUSE SAN FRANCISCO!!

It’s not a difficult question.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:47:45pm

re: #136 plansbandc

Ruin Thanksgiving in four words:

The Tofurkey is done!

Since there are vegetarians and vegans in the family, it’s not unusual for someone to bring a Tofurky dish to Thanksgiving. I tasted it once — and never again!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:48:05pm

Turkey’s burned, sardines instead.

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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:48:42pm

Store bought stuffing warmed
Do I defrost turkey?
‘Trump is doing great!’

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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:48:57pm

Applicable to all of them really…

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:50:48pm

re: #140 BigPapa

MIL here, outta wine

Power’s out, no football.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:51:26pm

Put on Fox, dear

Dogs ate the turkey

Turkey’s a little dry

No Costco pumpkin pie

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nines09  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:52:41pm

We are having fish.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:52:50pm

We’re out of wine.

Look who dropped in.

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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:53:15pm

re: #96 Archangelus

“trump is still president”

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nines09  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:53:57pm

re: #141 makeitstop

Imagine if that record had come out a year earlier. They would have been household names, but instead they got trampled by Grunge.

Lot’s of bands were almost there and got T boned by grunge. In a heartbeat the entire scene changed.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:54:03pm

re: #142 Kilroy was here

Replace the brief case with a bone saw and you got it :)

You’re on.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:54:31pm

Out of apple pie.

Yams? I got radishes.

The rolls are burned

Bernie would have won

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:54:50pm

In the last thread, Charles, you posted a tweet with someone confusing you and Chuck. This was down in the replies:

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:55:29pm

re: #153 nines09

Lot’s of bands were almost there and got T boned by grunge. In a heartbeat the entire scene changed.

I was in one. :) All of a sudden A&R started asking if we could sound ‘more like Nirvana.’

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:55:54pm

This is fun. Reminds me of how Hemingway won a contest for saddest possible four word story. Believe it was: baby shoes, never used.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:57:06pm

re: #153 nines09

The spandex and hair spray markets never recovered.

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nines09  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:57:06pm

re: #157 makeitstop

I was in one. :) All of a sudden A&R started asking if we could sound ‘more like Nirvana.’

“Can you guys…….”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 1:59:17pm

re: #156 Belafon

In the last thread, Charles, you posted a tweet with someone confusing you and Chuck. This was down in the replies:

Meh, stalkers are so tedious.

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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:00:01pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

It is what is. You say that when your meal is late not when a man is brutally murdered. Fucking evil pig.

just to pedant for a minute
actually, no, you never say it
it has no actual meaning
it is used by people who can’t form thoughts of their own

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:00:13pm

Oh no, Kavanaugh’s here!

Salmonella in turkey, yum!

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:01:16pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Oh no, Kavanaugh’s here!

Salmonella in turkey, yum!

More romaine lettuce, dear?

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:02:06pm

re: #76 dangerman

trump is close to saying only weak people spend thanksgiving with their families

Trump probably never really had, and probably still does not have such family gatherings.

He has no feeling for such experiences and how something like being with family members for a day Americans set as the day for that very thing is important.

Thanksgiving doesn’t ‘pay’ to Trump. There is nothing in it and I bet he sees it as a stupid thing the little people do.

What have they to be thankful for, look at ‘em, there are all leaving miserable lives. Not like Trump.

But I bet he likes Christmas. There is profit in it. He got to be in a movie. He got to use it as a campaign tool.

There is not a warm bone in his body. He has no feelings. His life is all about getting over, getting advantage, getting rich. One of the bigger reasons he can be such an ass.

He cannot relate to anyone not Trump.

Whoa. Nicole is saying WaPo has heard Trump asked Don McGahn to look into bringing charges and prosecute Hillary and Comey.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:02:39pm

Looks like an attempt to blur that time limit.

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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:03:00pm

re: #121 darthstar

I take it this means no surprise flight to Afghanistan or Texas to visit the troops.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:06:44pm

The Huckabees have arrived

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:06:49pm

We invited Milo, ok?

Stuffing is fake news.

Infowars says it’s real

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:07:18pm

re: #130 makeitstop

Feel free to distribute.

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That goes well with my…

The President Don
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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:07:39pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Out of apple pie.

Yams? I got radishes.

The rolls are burned

Bernie would have won

it’s called a turducken

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Kilroy was here  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:08:54pm

You didn’t RSVP, mom….

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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:10:07pm

“Turn on Fox News”
“Let’s watch Kirk Cameron’”
“Isn’t it Yom Kippur?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:11:31pm

Tonight’s supper is an experiment:
Got a nice looking 2-pound pork tenderloin, browned it in olive oil in a Logan cast iron Dutch oven.
Added coarsely chopped Vidalia onion, sweet potatoes and Honeycrisp apples.
Shake in some cinnamon and Baharat seasoning.
Added about a cup of water to get the juices started.

In the oven for about an hour.

fingers crossed…

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Kilroy was here  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:12:20pm

Please pass the ipecac

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:12:30pm
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:12:42pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:13:35pm

re: #136 plansbandc

Ruin Thanksgiving in four words:

Cable disruption, no football

The turkey hasn’t thawed

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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:13:46pm

re: #166 makeitstop

Looks like an attempt to blur that time limit.

Asked again on Monday for the information, Shah responded that he had provided all of the information he could, claiming, “Additional information is relevant to ongoing litigation, unfortunately.”

that’s like saying no i wont even verify my name because im being sued.

it’s a factual matter, not open to interpretation.
unless there is no memo.
or it is undated

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fern01  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:13:47pm

re: #7 Ace Rothstein

Trump, fuck you and your whole fucking family.

With a couple more words Booman stated similar

He will never change, and he will never be an acceptable president.

And this was about something as simple as pardoning a turkey.
boomantribune.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:15:50pm

A horrible contrast just occurred to me.

The difference between Trump talking in gory, porn-y detail about MS13 killing women and his complete disengagement from the violence done to Jamal Khashoggi.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:17:01pm
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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:17:36pm

“The Wi-Fi is down.”
“We’re out of booze.”
“Let’s finish the raking.”

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:19:01pm
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:19:29pm

‘We’re out of beer.’

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:19:32pm

NASA Announces Landing Site for Mars 2020 Rover

NASA has chosen Jezero Crater as the landing site for its upcoming Mars 2020 rover mission after a five year search, during which every available detail of more than 60 candidate locations on the Red Planet was scrutinized and debated by the mission team and the planetary science community.

The rover mission is scheduled to launch in July 2020 as NASA’s next step in exploration of the Red Planet. It will not only seek signs of ancient habitable conditions - and past microbial life — but the rover also will collect rock and soil samples and store them in a cache on the planet’s surface. NASA and ESA (European Space Agency) are studying future mission concepts to retrieve the samples and return them to Earth, so this landing site sets the stage for the next decade of Mars exploration.

“The landing site in Jezero Crater offers geologically rich terrain, with landforms reaching as far back as 3.6 billion years old, that could potentially answer important questions in planetary evolution and astrobiology,” said Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate. “Getting samples from this unique area will revolutionize how we think about Mars and its ability to harbor life.”

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:19:36pm
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gwangung  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:19:41pm

re: #184 jaunte

Nothing shady here….nothing shady at all….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:19:44pm

re: #181 The Ghost of a Flea

A horrible contrast just occurred to me.

The difference between Trump talking in gory, porn-y detail about MS13 killing women and his complete disengagement from the violence done to Jamal Khashoggi.

Because he uses MS-13 to incite his base against Hispanics.

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Archangelus  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:19:48pm

re: #184 jaunte

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Oh that’s perfectly normal… just following the Kushner model, standard stuff… //

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:19:51pm

“Acting Bribetaker Whitaker.”

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steve_davis  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:20:32pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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godamnit. not only did I eat one brand of it in a salad, but then I read that it makes good salad lettuce so I bought a completely different brand to eat. So in other words, I just doubled my chances of shitting blood sometime in the near future.

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William Lewis  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:21:38pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds good, though I’d tweak it with regular taters and apple juice in place of the water. But that’s just me not liking sweet taters :)

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:21:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:21:59pm
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nines09  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:22:24pm
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MsJ  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:24:10pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

But some of them may have actually learned from their experience; yes they helped build this but they were blind to where it led. They were so in thrall to the conservative mantra that they did not understand what it really meant. Let’s give credit to those who may now have awakened from their trance and realize the evil of what they built. Jen and Max Boot certainly seem to have found their way.

No. Until some other conservative party comes to power AND WE SEE HOW THESE PEOPLE ACT…only then am I willing to let it go. Because I, being a betting person, would wager a ton of cashola that these people are going to go back to what they did before.

We’ve already seen Rick Wilson espouse some conservative bullshit.

Being conservative in the era of trump is one thing…going back to espousing bullshit to hurt dems is another.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:24:48pm

re: #183 Archangelus

“The Wi-Fi is down.”
“We’re out of booze.”
“Let’s finish the raking.”

“Make America Great Again!”

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MsJ  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:24:57pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

True true. I just think she should get some credit.

Not yet.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:25:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:25:49pm

re: #193 William Lewis

Sounds good, though I’d tweak it with regular taters and apple juice in place of the water. But that’s just me not liking sweet taters :)

I would have used apple juice, but didn’t have any on hand

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:26:04pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

So the only thing keeping him from prosecuting his critics is McGahn who is leaving. Evil fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:26:29pm

re: #199 MsJ

Not yet.

AtD.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:28:29pm

re: #113 ObserverArt

Oh look. It’s Mike Schmidt of the New York Times on Nicole being asked about Ivanka’s emails.

Did he give Ivanka a pass?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:28:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:29:23pm

re: #77 Jay C

Sorry: as much as I generally like Adam Schiff and his Twitter ripostes to GOP crap, I think he’s a bit off on this one: the US’ “role as a champion of human rights” has always been a highly specific and situational one: said situation normally being whether or not the HR “offender” is a US ally or not. Or whether or not the victims of HR abuses are deemed to have “deserved it”: usually for some ideological insufficiency. The Trump Admin’s policy really doesn’t seem that much different, just - as typical for Trump badly-articulated to the point of imbecility.

It’s always been aspirational, but don’t stop believin’!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:31:16pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

Is one of them James O’Keefe with an oversized sombrero? Joshing aside, this fucking administration.

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dangerman  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:32:17pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

Trump admin paying undercover informants embedded in migrant caravan

so who’s actually sending money to the caravan?

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retired cynic  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:32:47pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

But some of them may have actually learned from their experience; yes they helped build this but they were blind to where it led. They were so in thrall to the conservative mantra that they did not understand what it really meant. Let’s give credit to those who may now have awakened from their trance and realize the evil of what they built. Jen and Max Boot certainly seem to have found their way.

Except the last line in her column is that the Dems have to get their act together.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:33:45pm

Trump’s undercover informants must have gotten tired of having to help with the children to maintain their cover, and ran off. So now the troops have to be ordered not to say the word “stunt.”

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fern01  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:35:00pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am so partisan - Axelrod lost me when he got together with Karl Rove to teach campaign strategy.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:35:00pm

And McGahn and Mueller know much more.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:36:51pm

Solid shit right here, this move is equal parts crafty and just absolutely necessary fucking basic governance. Pelosi is co-opting her only potential competition.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:38:13pm
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:38:50pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

Solid shit right here, this move is equal parts crafty and just absolutely necessary fucking basic governance. Pelosi is co-opting her only potential competition.

This is why Republicans fear her.

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fern01  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:39:49pm

re: #47 MsJ

RE: Jennifer Rubin….

They all ought to do the same. But don’t forget that she helped build this. They all did. This usurpation of power did not happen in a vacuum. The GOPers who tore down Obama at every turn (and Clinton before him, as they could) helped pave the way for what is happening now.

She will be back with the GOP as soon as trump is gone. She still does not accept how much the GOP and the media did to get trump elected. Thus said, she has never gone back on being a never trumper - unlike some elected members of the Senate.

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MsJ  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:40:19pm
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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:40:22pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

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He had O’keefe in a OBL mask in the caravan?

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gwangung  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:40:49pm

re: #215 makeitstop

This is why Republicans fear her.

Master class on how to operate as a Democratic leader.

All you newbies….take notes.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:42:15pm
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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:42:46pm

re: #13 bd(soros funded)

AMERICAN VALUES! SHINING CITY ON THE HILL! CHRISTIAN NATION!

pretty sure that’s just been replaced with:

fuck you, i got mine

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Scout  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:43:30pm

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mmmirele  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:44:34pm

re: #120 Hecuba’s daughter

I agree 100%. I’ve said previously that MBS probably got approval for abducting Khashoggi; am still not sure if Trump was aware of their plans to slaughter him, but the man who said “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” certainly would not care.

Does anyone know if there’s any evidence Khashoggi was involved with the Muslim Brotherhood? I thought that was more of an Egyptian political movement and it doesn’t seem like Khashoggi would have gotten a US green card if he had that kind of link. I am willing to be enlightened on this. (Trump has taken the Saudi position that Khashoggi was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.)

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:44:36pm

re: #24 lawhawk

Well, the kids were right - don’t eat salad. /

Words I’ve tried to live my life by.

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MsJ  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:45:37pm

re: #216 fern01

She will be back with the GOP as soon as trump is gone. She still does not accept how much the GOP and the media did to get trump elected. Thus said, she has never gone back on being a never trumper - unlike some elected members of the Senate.

I giveth she is a Never Trumper and I taketh away that she is legit in any other fashion.

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fern01  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:45:41pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

our role as a champion of human rights.

That ship sailed many moons ago.

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gwangung  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:46:31pm

re: #223 mmmirele

(Trump has taken the Saudi position that Khashoggi was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.)

I’d take that to mean that he never came within a single kilometer of any Muslim Brotherhood meeting.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:47:13pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:52:06pm

(This is stolen)

Those of you who are placing Christmas lights/decorations in your yards, can you please avoid anything that has Red or Blue flashing lights together? Every time I come around the corner, I think it’s the police and I have a panic attack. I have to brake hard, toss my whiskey, fasten my seat belt, throw my phone on the floor, turn my radio down, and stuff the gun under the seat… All while trying to put my clothes back on.
It’s just too much drama, even for the Holidays. Thank you for your co-operation and understanding.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:52:51pm

re: #228 goddamnedfrank

Shouldn’t you be out raking?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:53:02pm

Maybe for the third rally Trump’s thinking of he and Hyde-Smith could hang a liberal college student for trying to vote. You know, for shits and giggles for the MAGA crowd.////

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:56:31pm

re: #228 goddamnedfrank

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:57:06pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2018 • 2:58:02pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:03:41pm

re: #228 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:05:07pm

re: #229 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sounds like Ron White’s bit about profiling.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:06:02pm

re: #229 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

(This is stolen)

Those of you who are placing Christmas lights/decorations in your yards, can you please avoid anything that has Red or Blue flashing lights together? Every time I come around the corner, I think it’s the police and I have a panic attack. I have to brake hard, toss my whiskey, fasten my seat belt, throw my phone on the floor, turn my radio down, and stuff the gun under the seat… All while trying to put my clothes back on.
It’s just too much drama, even for the Holidays. Thank you for your co-operation and understanding.

Also, stop putting sirens in music!

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:08:41pm

re: #223 mmmirele

Does anyone know if there’s any evidence Khashoggi was involved with the Muslim Brotherhood? I thought that was more of an Egyptian political movement and it doesn’t seem like Khashoggi would have gotten a US green card if he had that kind of link. I am willing to be enlightened on this. (Trump has taken the Saudi position that Khashoggi was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.)

the internal logic goes something like this:

1. we don’t like him
2. therefore, he’s obviously a terrorist
3. being Arab and/or Muslim, it follows that he’s part of: al Qeada; ISIS; Muslim Brotherhood

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fern01  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:09:40pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

There has never, in the entire history of the English goddamned language, been a time when it was better to say “it is what it is” than absolutely nothing at all

He could learn from Cindy Hyde-Smith

We put out a statement yesterday and it’s available and we stand by that statement

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:10:00pm

Pelosi’s move seems to have done the trick.

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:10:42pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

This is fun. Reminds me of how Hemingway won a contest for saddest possible four word story. Believe it was: baby shoes, never used.

It was a six word story. “For sale: baby shoes. Never used.”

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:10:51pm
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gwangung  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:12:28pm

re: #242 jaunte

“Dems in Disarray! Dems in Disarray! Dems—- Uh. Wait. Never mind.”

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fern01  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:13:57pm

re: #135 ObserverArt

He is saying Her Emails(r) became a big security issue once Feds found there were emails with classified info in them and residing on her server.

Her emails became a big issue when Bengahzi didn’t work and the GOP and the media wanted to do another hit on the Clintons.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:15:26pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:16:39pm

BOOM!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:17:19pm

I used to live one hillside over from where they finally got this fire under control: 20 Years Later: The Old Topanga Fire. The last night, we had fire trucks lining the streets in and out of there, and hot embers were everywhere in the air. For a while I stood on the roof with a water hose to keep the roof from catching fire. We had the cars loaded to make a quick evacuation, but luckily didn’t have to. It was terrifying.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:17:52pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:18:43pm

re: #243 gwangung

“Dems in Disarray! Dems in Disarray! Dems—- Uh. Wait. Never mind.”

There are still 14 white men and 2 white women opposed to the leadership of a competent, experienced white woman. This is how we got Trump.

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:19:23pm

re: #228 goddamnedfrank

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:19:30pm
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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:19:56pm

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

Wow:

He won by 694 votes, or a margin of 50.129 percent to 49.871. That margin of 0.258 was just barely outside the 0.25 percent that would have allowed Love to request a recount.

A lot of these races are going to be very close again in 2 years.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:20:01pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

I used to live one hillside over from where they finally got this fire under control: 20 Years Later: The Old Topanga Fire. The last night, we had fire trucks lining the streets in and out of there, and hot embers were everywhere in the air. For a while I stood on the roof with a water hose to keep the roof from catching fire. We had the cars loaded to make a quick evacuation, but luckily didn’t have to. It was terrifying.

Right now when I go for walks in the evening after the marine layer starts to come in the area smells like an old musty smoker that you’ve just opened up and then wish you hadn’t.

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:20:53pm

re: #240 makeitstop

Pelosi’s move seems to have done the trick.

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Will she give Tim Ryan some kind of jobs creation position?

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:21:20pm

re: #254 ObserverArt

Will she give Tim Ryan some kind of jobs creation position?

She should give him the back of her hand.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:22:22pm

Do not congratulate:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:24:32pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:25:25pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What are you going to do about it, Lindsey? Suck just the tip instead of the whole shaft? Give us a break, we’re not stupid, you douchecanoe.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:26:05pm

re: #251 jaunte

Hewitt is one of those guys that sees politics as a sport… he’s like one of those crazy sports fan that can talk themselves into anything their team does being the right thing. Like the guys that call into (local) sports radio, he can rationalize just about anything.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:26:26pm

re: #252 KGxvi

Wow:

A lot of these races are going to be very close again in 2 years.

You never know. My candidate won by 1% in 2012, lost by 2.6% in 2014, won by 5% in 2016 and now by 30% in 2018. So anything can happen. It depends on the political environment and the opponent.

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:27:15pm

re: #255 makeitstop

She should give him the back of her hand.

I won’t argue!

I was just thinking of her being able to neutralize opponents.

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Interesting Times  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:28:36pm

re: #242 jaunte

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:28:53pm

OH HAI HERE I AM IN CANADA.
I wish I could stay here forever.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:29:03pm

re: #256 Barefoot Grin

“The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen…”

It’s a good thing Saudi Arabia wasn’t already fucking around in Yemen… oh, wait…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:29:32pm

re: #252 KGxvi

Wow:

He won by 694 votes, or a margin of 50.129 percent to 49.871. That margin of 0.258 was just barely outside the 0.25 percent that would have allowed Love to request a recount.

A lot of these races are going to be very close again in 2 years.

Maybe not this particular seat. The people of Utah appear to have voted in (barely) an independent redistricting provision

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:29:44pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Yeah, probably not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:30:17pm

John gives an update:

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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:30:18pm

Now that the Pollacks and Hewitts have spoketh, the minions will be repeating on The Facebookeths and Twitterses yonder tomorrow

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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:31:03pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:33:24pm

re: #265 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Maybe not this particular seat. The people of Utah appear to have voted in (barely) an independent redistricting provision

Redistricting won’t take effect until 2022. Census happens in 2020, so we get one more round with current districts/apportionment.

re: #260 Hecuba’s daughter

You never know. My candidate won by 1% in 2012, lost by 2.6% in 2014, won by 5% in 2016 and now by 30% in 2018. So anything can happen. It depends on the political environment and the opponent.

That is hopeful, but I think it’s best to remember that a lot of these close races were in districts Republicans should have won by close to double digits. They’ll likely have better turnout in a presidential cycle, so unless the GOP goes even more Trumpy, I expect it to be close in a lot of places.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:34:31pm

OK, I am honestly surprised

US opposes Russian nominee to lead Interpol

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:35:08pm
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Teddy's Person  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:35:18pm

Ruin Thanksgiving in four words:

You like ketchup, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:35:24pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:35:35pm

re: #273 Teddy’s Person

Ruin Thanksgiving in four words:

You like ketchup, right?

Pass the whiskey, please.

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fern01  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:35:44pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

From the Hill link

NBC News noted that DHS officials said Monday that their intelligence led them to believe that migrants were planning to rush the border at the San Ysidro Port of Entry, which is near San Diego. That prompted Customs and Border Control to close traffic lanes near that port of entry on Monday, but the influx of migrants never occurred.

Could be the informants are double agents.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:36:50pm

re: #276 fern01

From the Hill link

Could be the informants are double agents.

could be the informants are telling the moron’s people whatever they want to hear.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:37:43pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Marine is saluting the horse.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:38:59pm

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I am honestly surprised

US opposes Russian nominee to lead Interpol

Damn them, they just deleted the tweet and posted a new one

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:42:09pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:42:32pm

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn them, they just deleted the tweet and posted a new one

The Hill
✔
@thehill
Mike Pompeo: “Interpol is electing a new president. It is an important organization. We strongly endorse Kim Jong Yang, serving as its acting president.” hill.cm

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5:36 PM - Nov 20, 2018

I am pleasantly surprised. Let’s hope this is how it plays out.

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:43:42pm

re: #273 Teddy’s Person

Ruin Thanksgiving in four words:

You voted for who?

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:43:51pm

Ok, I’m now convinced that Hyde-Smith is actively trying to lose:

Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) shared a photo of herself wearing a Confederate soldier’s hat and holding a rifle in a 2014 Facebook post that resurfaced on Tuesday.

“I enjoyed my tour of Beauvoir. The Jefferson Davis Home and Presidential Library located in Biloxi,” Hyde-Smith wrote in a caption. Davis was the Confederate president during the Civil War. His former estate now serves as a museum and library in his honor.

“This is a must see,” Hyde-Smith wrote. “Currently on display are artifacts connected to the daily life of the Confederate Soldier including weapons. Mississippi history at its best!”

Seriously, when Walmart tells you that they want their political donation back, how badly have you fucked up?

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gwangung  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:44:08pm

Another upside to the Blue Wave? Rep. Ted Lieu gets some power with some real teeth to it.

NOBODY on the Dem side has a problem with that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:44:09pm
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Jay C  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:45:16pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Great pic: Melania Trump in a horseblanket, posing with two horse’s asses……

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fern01  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:46:55pm

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I am honestly surprised

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Wait for trump to have his say - this may change.

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:47:24pm

re: #283 KGxvi

Ok, I’m now convinced that Hyde-Smith is actively trying to lose:

Seriously, when Walmart tells you that they want their political donation back, how badly have you fucked up?

Well, not to just be argumentative, but this IS Mississippi we’re talking about: Johnny Reb nostalgia goes a long way down there…..

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:47:49pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is a candidate required to return donations if asked to do so? Seems kind of odd.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:49:04pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

Walmart asked for their cash back too

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:49:30pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:49:44pm

re: #289 Patricia Kayden

Is a candidate required to return donations if asked to do so? Seems kind of odd.

Politics. Asking sends a message and makes it clear they want to distance themselves from her. Money can be quibbled over. This is a statement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:50:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:50:45pm

re: #290 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Walmart asked for their cash back too

yes, that was posted here earlier today

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:52:39pm

re: #283 KGxvi

Ok, I’m now convinced that Hyde-Smith is actively trying to lose:

Seriously, when Walmart tells you that they want their political donation back, how badly have you fucked up?

To me this looks like an ambitious GOP politician in the Trump era burnishing her presidential credentials.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:53:30pm

“It wasn’t a big issue until we found out Hillary had classified info in her emails!”

Funny, that’s not how I remember things playing out. Way I remember it, the investigation came before the discovery of confidential information being found in a grand total of 2 emails out of tens of thousands.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:57:00pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:57:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:58:19pm

re: #292 ObserverArt

But Walmart gave her the money AFTER she had made several controversial, racist comments. Only after Debra Messing called them out on Twitter did they ask Hyde-Smith to return the donation.

Oh well, better late than never, I guess.

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Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:58:49pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Trump will attack him and the GOP won’t care.

Trump could kill him and the GOP wouldn’t care, although Susan Collins might be “concerned”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:59:25pm
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darthstar  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:59:38pm

And everyone thought he was joking when he said that “lock her up” shit in his campaign rallies.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2018 • 3:59:43pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:00:17pm

re: #283 KGxvi

Ok, I’m now convinced that Hyde-Smith is actively trying to lose:

Seriously, when Walmart tells you that they want their political donation back, how badly have you fucked up?

THIS IS MISSISSIPPI.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:00:44pm

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for Person of the Year.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:01:18pm

re: #299 Patricia Kayden

But Walmart gave her the money AFTER she had made several controversial, racist comments. Only after Debra Messing called them out on Twitter did they ask Hyde-Smith to return the donation.

Oh well, better late than never, I guess.

In other words, it’s going to be our job to make some large corporations do the right thing. At least some companies, like Nike or Dicks, have figured out that you can do the right thing and make a profit.

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Skip Intro  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:01:36pm

re: #305 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Uh, no.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:03:50pm

re: #288 Jay C

Well, not to just be argumentative, but this IS Mississippi we’re talking about: Johnny Reb nostalgia goes a long way down there…..

Remember the film Mississippi Burning? This is the reddest state in the Union. Her joking about lynching will probably get her additional votes.

I did attend an Indivisible postcard party for Espy Sunday afternoon and over a couple days wrote almost 100 cards to his constituents, but I am not optimistic about the outcome of this race.

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ipsos  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:04:26pm

Local news here in western NY reporting there aren’t enough votes left outstanding to keep Chris Collins (R-epugnant) from claiming victory in NY-27, indictment or not.

Would have been a hell of an upset in that district. Indictment or not.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:08:05pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

Especially when they look like the FWD:RE:FWD:WATCH THIS grandpa emails from the ‘08 election they lost

There’s probably a 79% chance that if I ever met Ocasio-Cortez, I’d probably ask her to marry me within 48 hours.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:09:30pm
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Belafon  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:10:01pm

re: #310 KGxvi

There’s probably a 79% chance that if I ever met Ocasio-Cortez, I’d probably ask her to marry me within 48 hours.

That was a great line.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:12:19pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:12:31pm

re: #305 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for Person of the Year.

Nancy Pelosi for Person of the Year!

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:12:36pm

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:12:57pm

re: #314 Hecuba’s daughter

Robert Mueller.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:15:49pm

re: #314 Hecuba’s daughter

Nancy Pelosi for Person of the Year!

Women in Congress for “Person” of the Year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:16:05pm

more examples in the thread

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:17:24pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s lovely when a target gets to pass on questions during an investigation into his possible wrongdoing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:19:26pm
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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:22:49pm

re: #319 Patricia Kayden

It’s lovely when a target gets to pass on questions during an investigation into his possible wrongdoing.

I mean, exercising your Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination is entirely legitimate. The president exercising that right can create a bit of a constitutional crisis, but he is still technically allowed to exercise it, as far as I know.

Trump’s problem is that he’s doing this as hamfistedly as he does everything else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:24:59pm

re: #321 KGxvi

I mean, exercising your Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination is entirely legitimate. The president exercising that right can create a bit of a constitutional crisis, but he is still technically allowed to exercise it, as far as I know.

Trump’s problem is that he’s doing this as hamfistedly as he does everything else.

IMHO, the problem, I believe, is that the moron would refuse to say/write the words “fifth amendment”.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:27:25pm

re: #321 KGxvi

I mean, exercising your Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination is entirely legitimate. The president exercising that right can create a bit of a constitutional crisis, but he is still technically allowed to exercise it, as far as I know.

Trump’s problem is that he’s doing this as hamfistedly as he does everything else.

The problem I see is that he isn’t actually asserting his Fifth Amendment rights. He’s just refusing to answer some questions the basis that he doesn’t want to and on the raw assertion that as President he is somehow metaphysically incapable of committing obstruction of justice.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:30:01pm

re: #323 goddamnedfrank

Bingo.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:31:03pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aren’t you the lady who couldn’t name any scotus decisions beyond Roe?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:32:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:33:15pm

re: #326 Charles Johnson

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Yep. It’s almost like she knows what she’s doing.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:33:49pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:34:44pm

re: #323 goddamnedfrank

The problem I see is that he isn’t actually asserting his Fifth Amendment rights. He’s just refusing to answer some questions the basis that he doesn’t want to and on the raw assertion that as President he is somehow metaphysically incapable of committing obstruction of justice.

I’d change that last part to be that Trump feels that anything he does is necessarily legal. Furthermore, whatever in question being felt to be legal is only a small part of the overall magnificence it possesses by being something done by The Great Trump.

IMO he really is such a narcissist that this is how he operates.

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retired cynic  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:35:07pm

re: #307 Skip Intro

Uh, no.

Yep. Too soon. I like her chops!

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:35:33pm

re: #323 goddamnedfrank

The problem I see is that he isn’t actually asserting his Fifth Amendment rights. He’s just refusing to answer some questions the basis that he doesn’t want to and on the raw assertion is that as President he is somehow metaphysically incapable of committing obstruction of justice.

Yeah, that is a problem.

On the president being incapable of committing obstruction of justice, there’s a legitimate constitutional argument that because the executive power is vested in the president, which includes the DOJ’s investigatory power, that the president is ultimately in charge of any investigation conducted by the DOJ. So he’s technically right that he can shut down the investigation or conscript it in some way.

Now, that would likely, and rightfully, been seen as an abuse of power and should trigger a bipartisan impeachment effort. But, Mitch McConnell.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:35:49pm

re: #329 EPR-radar

I’d change that last part to be that Trump feels that anything he does is necessarily legal. Furthermore, whatever in question being felt to be legal is only a small part of the overall magnificence it possesses by being something done by The Great Trump.

IMO he really is such a narcissist that this is how he operates.

It’s “ If the President does it, it’s not illegal” on steroids.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:39:18pm

re: #315 Patricia Kayden

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The scenario I see: Trump: “I officially declare this turkey pardoned”; turns to aide: “take him out back, finish him off, and give him the KFC treatment….”

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:39:57pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

But of course if President Hillary Clinton did it, it would be a capital offense.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:40:55pm

re: #333 Barefoot Grin

Dang!! You’re so cynical. LOL.

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:41:25pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

It’s “ If the President does it, it’s not illegal” on steroids.

It’s much more general than that. Trump has been the God-Emperor of his vivid inner fantasy life for decades, and he’s rich enough (at least apparently) that the world has basically catered to these irrational whims.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:44:47pm

re: #331 KGxvi

Yeah, that is a problem.

On the president being incapable of committing obstruction of justice, there’s a legitimate constitutional argument that because the executive power is vested in the president, which includes the DOJ’s investigatory power, that the president is ultimately in charge of any investigation conducted by the DOJ. So he’s technically right that he can shut down the investigation or conscript it in some way.

Now, that would likely, and rightfully, been seen as an abuse of power and should trigger a bipartisan impeachment effort. But, Mitch McConnell.

Of course, impeachment never required Mitch McConnell’s approval. If the House GOP actually cared about this country, they could have proceeded at any time. The House has been as complicit, if not more so, than the Senate in terms of obstructing justice. I doubt that Nancy will proceed with impeachment efforts unless Mueller shows definitive and overwhelming proof of both Trump and Pence’s involvement with the Russians, sufficient to force the Republican hands. President Pelosi has a nice ring to it, but not likely to happen.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:46:40pm

re: #337 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, impeachment never required Mitch McConnell’s approval. If the House GOP actually cared about this country, they could have proceeded at any time. The House has been as complicit, if not more so, than the Senate in terms of obstructing justice. I doubt that Nancy will proceed with impeachment efforts unless Mueller shows definitive and overwhelming proof of both Trump and Pence’s involvement with the Russians, sufficient to force the Republican hands. President Pelosi has a nice ring to it, but not likely to happen.

More likely, it’ll be a replay of Nixon/Agnew/Ford, where Pence bows out and Trump is forced to nominate someone that can get a majority in both Houses

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:47:11pm

re: #336 EPR-radar

It’s much more general than that. Trump has been the God-Emperor of his vivid inner fantasy life for decades, and he’s rich enough (at least apparently) that the world has basically catered to these irrational whims.

Yep. Legality is irrelevant to Trump. He does what he wants and uses his vast resources and connections to evade any consequences for his actions.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:48:22pm

Lre: #336 EPR-radar

It’s much more general than that. Trump has been the God-Emperor of his vivid inner fantasy life for decades, and he’s rich enough (at least apparently) that the world has basically catered to these irrational whims.

Yeah that’s true. He has an emperor mentality.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:50:19pm

re: #295 EPR-radar

To me this looks like an ambitious GOP politician in the Trump era burnishing her presidential credentials.

She’s publicly supported vote supression, joked about lynching and posed in a Rebel hat with a gun. I’m just waiting for a photo of her in blackface to pop up.

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:51:31pm

re: #339 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. Legality is irrelevant to Trump. He does what he wants and uses his vast resources and connections to evade any consequences for his actions.

Which is why I’m convinced the Mueller investigation will find dozens/hundreds of white collar crimes perpetrated by Trump. Someone so blind to the idea that his actions need to be legal can’t possibly have stayed within the legal lines, unless he had the underlying character of a saint.

And that is most definitely not the case.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:53:25pm

re: #338 KGxvi

More likely, it’ll be a replay of Nixon/Agnew/Ford, where Pence bows out and Trump is forced to nominate someone that can get a majority in both Houses

Hard to see who could get approval from a majority in both a Democratic House and a Republican Senate. Someone not currently in office who has respect from both parties? But who would fill that bill in the Trump era? If the House were Republican, Paul Ryan could probably pass muster — but not in January.

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:53:50pm

re: #341 Big Beautiful Door

She’s publicly supported vote supression, joked about lynching and posed in a Rebel hat with a gun. I’m just waiting for a photo of her in blackface to pop up.

Blackface seems unlikely for a likely future GOP thought leader.

Sure it will piss off liberals, but there are less double-edged ways of doing that than pretending to be one of your party’s scapegoats.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:56:28pm

re: #141 makeitstop

Imagine if that record had come out a year earlier. They would have been household names, but instead they got trampled by Grunge.

Actually, I think they got pushed aside by the clueless rich fucks who controlled the major labels back then, because they wanted another Nirvana.

I have to confess that although I liked some of the bands in the grunge thing, I also found a lot of it totally unlistenable.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 20, 2018 • 4:58:45pm

re: #314 Hecuba’s daughter

Nancy Pelosi for Person of the Year!

Robert Mueller; now that would trigger Trump!

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TedStriker  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:00:15pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

Actually, I think they got pushed aside by the clueless rich fucks who controlled the major labels back then, because they wanted another Nirvana.

I have to confess that although I liked some of the bands in the grunge thing, I also found a lot of it totally unlistenable.

Well, the best thing to come out of the ashes of grunge is Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters, so there you go…

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:00:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:00:46pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:02:08pm

For instance, I never liked Pearl Jam. At all. In fact, I actively disliked their music and Eddie Vedder’s voice.

#ConfessYourUnpopularOpinion

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:02:51pm

I could go for some cheese fondue right about now.

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:03:39pm

re: #350 Charles Johnson

For instance, I never liked Pearl Jam. At all. In fact, I actively disliked their music and Eddie Vedder’s voice.

#ConfessYourUnpopularOpinion

After reading your last comment, I was gonna make a guess Pearl Jam would be mentioned.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:04:28pm

re: #350 Charles Johnson

Dave Grohl was the real genius behind Nirvana.
#confessyourunpopularopinion.

Never a huge fan of Nirvana. Liked some of their stuff. Liked a few songs by Pearl Jam.

Loved Soundgarden. Alice in Chains. Stone Temple Pilots.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:05:14pm

I’ve decided this song from “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”, “When a Cowboy Trades His Spurs for Wings” will make the perfect funeral dirge…. PERFECT.

Beware, it earworms on you…..

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs (Soundtrack) Willie Watson & Tim Blake Nelson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:05:35pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:06:29pm

re: #353 lawhawk

Dave Grohl was the real genius behind Nirvana.
#confessyourunpopularopinion.

Never a huge fan of Nirvana. Liked some of their stuff. Liked a few songs by Pearl Jam.

Loved Soundgarden. Alice in Chains. Stone Temple Pilots.

I was in Japan when the whole thing broke. I missed it. I never really cottoned to any of them. #ReplacementslastbandthatmatterednoIdon‘treallymeanthatbuthey!

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William Lewis  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:12:25pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

Actually, I think they got pushed aside by the clueless rich fucks who controlled the major labels back then, because they wanted another Nirvana.

I have to confess that although I liked some of the bands in the grunge thing, I also found a lot of it totally unlistenable.

A lot of it was horrible. Butch Vig deserves a huge chunk of the credit for Nirvana breaking the way they did when they did. There was nothing really new to their sound, but Vig made it fresh for the kids so that when the Teen Spirit riff came out of a radio or TV it seemed far more radical than it was.

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William Lewis  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:15:19pm

re: #356 Barefoot Grin

I was in Japan when the whole thing broke. I missed it. I never really cottoned to any of them. #ReplacementslastbandthatmatterednoIdon‘treallymeanthatbuthey!

Ah… The ‘mats and Husker Did. Them and the Who and the Clash kept me going.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2018 • 5:21:13pm

re: #354 Dave In Austin

I’ve decided this song from “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”, “When a Cowboy Trades His Spurs for Wings” will make the perfect funeral dirge…. PERFECT.

Beware, it earworms on you…..

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Video

Such an incredible scene. I’m actually going to watch this movie for the third time tonight. It’s a trip.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 20, 2018 • 6:14:54pm

re: #350 Charles Johnson

Once upon a time I whispered (using tags for small script) that I thought Pearl Jam was overrated. Unfortunately I messed up with the tags and shrunk the thread

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SpikeDad  Nov 21, 2018 • 12:59:34pm

re: #196 nines09

I hope when it’s my time I have someone standing vigil like you.


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