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jaunte  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:07:26pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:07:45pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:10:24pm
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prairiefire  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:17:43pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

That seems eerie in that the kite is not attached to the boat. It’s on its way out of the frame.
I think it’s a kite on the right?

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ipsos  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:21:45pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

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Tell me this doesn’t look like an album cover from some band that was heavily influenced by listening to too much Wilco.

Go ahead, tell me.

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:23:17pm

re: #5 ipsos

Tell me this doesn’t look like an album cover from some band that was heavily influenced by listening to too much Wilco.

Go ahead, tell me.

Giphy

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:24:08pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:33:12pm

So, I am cheating for the big dinner tomorrow. Ordered sides, a pecan pie, and dinner rolls from the local upscale-ish grocery store (none of that $20 butter though), but I am going all out with the turkey like I always do. Year 2 of separating it while raw, searing the skin side on all parts, packing breasts/thighs/legs with thyme and sage/salt/sugar to sous vide. The dark meat will go for 24 hours at 150, and the white meat for 12 at 130. I did this last year and it was so damn amazing. Just a quick second sear on the stove after everything else is ready to serve. It’s only the folks and I, and it’s the perfect game plan. Tossed the carcass, neck, and wing tips into the stock pot with water and herbs/mirepoix for gravy. That will simmer for a few hours, and I’ll use some of the meat along with the giblets to give the gravy good lumps. ;)

Hope everyone has a Happy Indigenous People’s Day tomorrow!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:34:11pm
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prairiefire  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:35:42pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

So, they are sexy!

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:36:26pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

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MsJ  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:37:58pm
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retired cynic  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:40:48pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

Oh, no! I’ve been nearly legally blind my whole life, and got corrective implanted lenses when I had cataract surgery, and now it is nearly 20-20! Absolute heaven!!!!! Eight years of heavy bifocals, and 50 years of hard contacts, and now there is sight!

Be so grateful for such a wonderful gift! (and Medicare, so I was able to get it!)

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:40:52pm
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prairiefire  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:42:06pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

He is so high on his own fiefdom right now.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:42:25pm

re: #10 prairiefire

So, they are sexy!

Faux turtle shell made from real fake turtles.

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retired cynic  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:42:42pm

re: #15 prairiefire

That’s from 2013 (I get caught all the time)

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:46:47pm

re: #13 retired cynic

Like anything on the human body, things atrophy over time. Genetically I got my father’s eyes, my mother has been nearsighted her whole life, has worn glasses since she was seven. My father never wore glasses until his late 50s, for reading. He’s 70 now and has to wear corrective glasses while driving.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:47:56pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

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Ha! I went at least 20 years buying reading glasses at the drug store (an advantage of being farsighted), but +3.25 is about the best you can do there—it got to the point where I needed one pair to see and had to stack another pair on top to read….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:50:45pm

As I have for several years now, I’ll be having Thanksgiving dinner at our church outreach center tomorrow. The master cooks (not me, needless to say) will arrive at 4 AM to get things going. The menu includes practically everything, including ham and roast beef for the numerous turkey haters around here.
addendum: We also have tamales and tacos.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:52:51pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:54:03pm

re: #17 retired cynic

That’s from 2013 (I get caught all the time)

Yes but I’m certain his sentiment hasn’t changed a bit.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:54:10pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ha! I went at least 20 years buying reading glasses at the drug store (an advantage of being farsighted), but +3.25 is about the best you can do there—it got to the point where I needed one pair to see and had to stack another pair on top to read….

Right now I can get away with a +1.5 but buy the +1.75 because I can’t abide shit not being absolutely tack sharp. I buy ‘em on Amazon in four packs.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:56:02pm
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retired cynic  Nov 21, 2018 • 8:57:46pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

The surgeon did my worst eye set for reading, and my good eye for distance. That was the way they have always been, so it hasn’t caused any trouble at all. He said that was a common choice. I can recommend it, anyway.

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:02:31pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

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It’s called the 40s, when our warranty runs out.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:06:46pm

re: #25 retired cynic

The surgeon did my worst eye set for reading, and my good eye for distance. That was the way they have always been, so it hasn’t caused any trouble at all. He said that was a common choice. I can recommend it, anyway.

My surgeon gave me that option, I wanted distance. He went with distance vision for himself but said his Mom chose monovision and he didn’t push either option as superior. I’d been wearing glasses since eighth grade so I was fine with needing readers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:07:56pm

re: #25 retired cynic

The surgeon did my worst eye set for reading, and my good eye for distance. That was the way they have always been, so it hasn’t caused any trouble at all. He said that was a common choice. I can recommend it, anyway.

That works for those who tolerate monovision. A friend had her cataract surgery with the lens set that way and loves it. However, in my case, although that is how my contacts worked, I always hated it. So, with my recent cataract surgery, my eyes are adjusted for “nearish” vision and I have to wear glasses for movies or driving. But, despite that, my vision is far better than it’s been since around age 7.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:11:51pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:12:01pm

Canada says, “Bitch, please!” to Donald Trump.

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prairiefire  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:12:43pm

re: #17 retired cynic

That’s from 2013 (I get caught all the time)

It seemed peculiarly ebullient.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:13:57pm

Behind the private tag because NSFW polar bear anal sex Christmas display.

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:14:42pm

White Christmas

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:17:57pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

You want to hear them play Little Drummer Boy? Of course you do!

Little Drummer Boy

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retired cynic  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:18:53pm

I am not ready

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gwangung  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:20:41pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

You want to hear them play Little Drummer Boy? Of course you do!

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NO.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:20:51pm

re: #35 retired cynic

I am not ready

I got enough of that song for several lifetimes when Kennedy was President….

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:23:00pm
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sagehen  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:26:36pm

re: #30 Single-handed sailor

Also, Canadians didn’t attack America on 9/11, nor did they murder a US resident in their embassy, cut him up into pieces, and then lied to you and the American people about the murder.

Ted doesn’t go nearly far enough.

Canada on 9/11 gave safe landing to 100 of our planes, and provided comfortable accommodations and home-cooked meals to 30,000 US-bound passengers.

A Canadian embassy provided sanctuary, false papers, to Americans in Iran when their own embassy became unsafe. They also negotiate on our behalf with countries we don’t have diplomatic relations with.

Canada provided safe haven for 100,000 Vietnam-era draft dodgers whose fathers couldn’t afford to bribe a doctor to pretend to find bone spurs.

Canada’s been nothing but good to us.

Donald’s just jealous that everybody would rather have sex with their leader than ours.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:31:27pm

re: #13 retired cynic

Oh, no! I’ve been nearly legally blind my whole life, and got corrective implanted lenses when I had cataract surgery, and now it is nearly 20-20! Absolute heaven!!!!! Eight years of heavy bifocals, and 50 years of hard contacts, and now there is sight!

Be so grateful for such a wonderful gift! (and Medicare, so I was able to get it!)

I’ve been wearing bifocals since I was nineteen. I am not wearing my glasses now, and the computer screen 18” away is fuzzy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:32:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:32:32pm

Step-father update: After going into the hospital last night and straight into an isolation unit, he is out today and at the rehab centre where they’ve been planning to send him for some time.

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retired cynic  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:34:17pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve been wearing bifocals since I was nineteen. I am not wearing my glasses now, and the computer screen 18” away is fuzzy.

I got them in third grade; first glasses. Horrible thing to do to a kid. But I could see for the first time in my life.

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:40:53pm

re: #43 retired cynic

I got them in third grade; first glasses. Horrible thing to do to a kid. But I could see for the first time in my life.

I am so glad we’ve reached an age where my kids have not had to put up with the crap I did.

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retired cynic  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:41:46pm

re: #44 Belafon

I am so glad we’ve reached an age where my kids have not had to put up with the crap I did.

But thing how lucky we were. A generation earlier… and a generation before that… I would not have been a good pioneer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:42:34pm

re: #43 retired cynic

I got them in third grade; first glasses. Horrible thing to do to a kid. But I could see for the first time in my life.

I lived with my grandparents after my father was killed. Shortly after my sister got glasses, I noted to my grandmother that I would like an eye test as well.

She insisted that I was just looking for attention, because brown-eyed and brown-haired people don’t need glasses. (? and she was a teacher)

After endless complaining, she looked up the most expensive ophthalmologist in Michigan and took me to him, saying I would have to pay her back if he found nothing wrong. (The appointment was about $800, and my allowance was $2 a week.)

Yeah, he found something wrong all right. I’m so nearsighted I have trouble reading a book in my hands. (In school I would always go up to the chalkboard after class to make notes.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:46:46pm
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prairiefire  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:47:21pm

re: #13 retired cynic

So glad that worked out well! I tease my mom that I can hear her new lenses making a “wrrrr” sound when she focuses on something.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:50:01pm
Definers Public Affairs, the PR firm Facebook contracted to sling mud at critics after the Cambridge Analytica debacle, also conducted campaigns against Apple at the command of Qualcomm, according to a report Wednesday.

… Beyond NTK and media pitches, Miller himself penned an article accusing Cook of lying to President Donald Trump about building manufacturing plants in the U.S., according to an email reviewed by the Times. The piece, which included claims that Cook leaked a “fabricated story” on Trump immigration reform to the Times, was peddled to right-wing website GotNews, which published it without attribution….

appleinsider.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 9:51:42pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:01:33pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

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My kingdom for a journalist who will ask Donny aloud “And how much of that money is going in your pockets?”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:04:07pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

My kingdom for a journalist who will ask Donny aloud “And how much of that money is going in your pockets?”

“Is that before or after you take your cut, sir?”

“Do the Saudis know you’re skimming a little off the top?

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:05:50pm

re: #52 wheat-dogg

“Is that before or after you take your cut, sir?”

“Do the Saudis know you’re skimming a little off the top?

“Are you counting all the money they spend at your hotels?”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:07:00pm

Time to teach young minds, where I am not allowed to skim off the top or take a cut. Besides, what student has money?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:07:31pm

re: #30 Single-handed sailor

Why doesn’t he grovel for Canadians? Because we aren’t the ones lining his pockets with illicit funds.

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mmmirele  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:09:39pm

re: #41 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Fort Bend ISD was the first school district I went to in Texas way back in 1973 and my mother absolutely HATED it with the heat of a billion suns. We’d just moved from Northern California and the culture shock was severe. They “tracked” junior high school students (where you went to classes with the same students on the same academic level) and my mother thought that was inappropriate. She was particularly livid that the junior high would not enroll me in home economics, because the guidance counselor said that was for “Mexican and black girls destined to become maids.”

I hated John Foster Dulles Junior High School and was glad to leave after four months. And yeah, it was seriously racist. Not that Klein High School was much better, although the current African-American mayor of Houston, Sylvester Turner, graduated from Klein in 1973.

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Seafaring, coquito drinking Santa!  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:12:14pm

Cheesecakes: done.

Coquitos (Nutella and Ferrero): done.

Dishes: done.

Sleep: next.

Night everyone!

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:13:09pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:17:54pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:19:53pm

re: #15 prairiefire

He is so high on his own Barneyfiefdom right now.

FIFY

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:23:17pm

Representative-elect Omar:

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:24:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:28:25pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Representative-elect Omar:

She hit a couple of nerves there … American conservatives promoting wingnut blogs claiming she married her brother, and Saudi commentators condemning her for her faith.

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:31:15pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Representative-elect Omar:

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Think that’s the first picture of Donny with foreign politician that didn’t seem him giving that grimace “smile” that he plasters on whenever he knows he’s not the focus of the room.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:35:48pm
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ckkatz  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:36:50pm

re: #58 teleskiguy
Turtles All the Way Down

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I had not heard that song before. Definitely different lyrics. Thanks for posting!

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:37:52pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:40:18pm

re: #13 retired cynic

Oh, no! I’ve been nearly legally blind my whole life, and got corrective implanted lenses when I had cataract surgery, and now it is nearly 20-20! Absolute heaven!!!!! Eight years of heavy bifocals, and 50 years of hard contacts, and now there is sight!

Be so grateful for such a wonderful gift! (and Medicare, so I was able to get it!)

I had to wear bifocals since I was 9 because I had double astigmatisms in both eyes. Kids used to call me “six eyes”. Oh, I hated that. Then when I went to high school I had to go to trifocals and I’ve had to wear them ever since. They can’t do Lasix on me because of the severe astigmatisms…

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:40:52pm

re: #66 ckkatz

Sturgill Simpson. IMHO he’s making country music great again.

This shit’s real fun:

And he does a magnificent Nirvana cover:

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:41:03pm

re: #65 Single-handed sailor

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I can only assume Donny expects Mueller’s report to be released sometime before January. Because otherwise, he’s gambling that the House DNC won’t make one of their first priorities hauling Whitaker’s pale ass before the House Judiciary Committee so they can tear a strip off him on live TV.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:43:43pm

re: #67 Single-handed sailor

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So why haven’t McInnes and his fellow Alt-Righty pal Milo been deported?

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ckkatz  Nov 21, 2018 • 10:58:02pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Sturgill Simpson. IMHO he’s making country music great again.

This shit’s real fun:

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Wow!

I occasionally do some country-western dancing in the local Washington DC area. The guy who runs it has to be careful not to offend some of the older crowd. Plus some of those folks are going to be uncomfortable with anything newer than the 1980s.

So this is quite an interesting and eye-opening view of country-western music I don’t get to hear up there.

“You can have the Crown” sounds like a really good two-step.

My ladyfriend is a hospital chaplain, so I suspect that “Turtles All the Way Down” will interest her. And I will probably spend time tomorrow googling where the references to turtles and alien reptiles came from. Kind of unexpected in a country western song, that’s for sure.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 21, 2018 • 11:14:00pm

Americans, can’t even right a Hobie Cat. It really is an idiocracy.

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 11:16:17pm

re: #73 Single-handed sailor

I LIKE MONEY

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 21, 2018 • 11:17:51pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2018 • 11:20:07pm

re: #75 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Yeah, funbags over there is Attorney General.”

That fuckin’ film. Mike Judge’s film masterpiece.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 21, 2018 • 11:25:33pm

re: #67 Single-handed sailor

Canada is not sending their best guys, apparently.

Also, yet another data point in my general “whatever they say others are doing and it’s bad, it’ll be good when they do it…which they will” theory of The Current Fuckery.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 21, 2018 • 11:27:43pm

re: #71 Joe Bacon 🌹

So why haven’t McInnes and his fellow Alt-Righty pal Milo been deported?

Milo Y. is here on an O-1 visa (extraordinary ability or achievement). What ability or achievement is that, anyway?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 21, 2018 • 11:31:11pm

re: #71 Joe Bacon 🌹

There’s a critical immigration test in which a piece of unbleached paper is placed on the epidermis of the subject and a comparison of their hue is made.

It’s all very scientific.

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TedStriker  Nov 21, 2018 • 11:41:27pm

re: #79 The Ghost of a Flea

There’s a critical immigration test in which a piece of unbleached paper is placed on the epidermis of the subject and a comparison of their hue is made.

It’s all very scientific.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 12:14:09am

It’s an hour past Thanksgiving Day in Mythical Time Zone in the USA. Avoid falling turkeys dropped from aircraft. Enjoy your holiday. Cube steak and beets here for dinner.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 12:19:32am

re: #56 mmmirele

Fort Bend ISD was the first school district I went to in Texas way back in 1973 and my mother absolutely HATED it with the heat of a billion suns. We’d just moved from Northern California and the culture shock was severe. They “tracked” junior high school students (where you went to classes with the same students on the same academic level) and my mother thought that was inappropriate. She was particularly livid that the junior high would not enroll me in home economics, because the guidance counselor said that was for “Mexican and black girls destined to become maids.”

I hated John Foster Dulles Junior High School and was glad to leave after four months. And yeah, it was seriously racist. Not that Klein High School was much better, although the current African-American mayor of Houston, Sylvester Turner, graduated from Klein in 1973.

I date back to the time when boys took industrial arts aka shop and girls took home ec. I think we had to take them in 7th or 8th grade. The other grade was art for all of us. Anyhoo, when I was in senior high, as a lark I sat for the Betty Crocker Homemaker of the Year* test, because my friends and I decided it was well past time to abandon gender discrimination. Long story short, I won the prize for our high school, despite never taking home ec. The home ec teacher was a tad miffed, but she said the judges weighted the essay question more than the multiple choice Q’s, and that my essay must have been pretty good.

However, I did not move on to the state level. In retrospect, perhaps I should have.

* Or whatever it was called. It’s been nearly 50 years.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 12:21:15am

re: #76 teleskiguy

“Yeah, funbags over there is Attorney General.”

That fuckin’ film. Mike Judge’s film masterpiece.

And he never intended it to be a documentary or a how-to video, yet here we are.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 12:36:41am

re: #82 wheat-dogg

I date back to the time when boys took industrial arts aka shop and girls took home ec. I think we had to take them in 7th or 8th grade. The other grade was art for all of us. Anyhoo, when I was in senior high, as a lark I sat for the Betty Crocker Homemaker of the Year* test, because my friends and I decided it was well past time to abandon gender discrimination. Long story short, I won the prize for our high school, despite never taking home ec. The home ec teacher was a tad miffed, but she said the judges weighted the essay question more than the multiple choice Q’s, and that my essay must have been pretty good.

However, I did not move on to the state level. In retrospect, perhaps I should have.

* Or whatever it was called. It’s been nearly 50 years.

When I went to school in Michigan, Home Ec was required for everyone in my school, whilst auto shop or agriculture were electives (which anyone could elect).

I sucked at Home Ec and barely got through alive.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 1:26:10am

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

When I went to school in Michigan, Home Ec was required for everyone in my school, whilst auto shop or agriculture were electives (which anyone could elect).

I sucked at Home Ec and barely got through alive.

At the time, it never occurred to me how anachronistic both shop and home ec were, to some extent. But I did appreciate the opportunity to learn elementary wood and metal working, and even typesetting. Now kids would learn CAD and CNC, 3D printing, and probably not ever get close to life-threatening power tools. I guess home ec now is more like home and family management, and how to prepare the living room for the Roomba to clean. We’re not yet at the point where we have to program Rosie the Robot.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 1:34:20am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 1:54:02am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 1:56:06am

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

But yet it snows.

You can’t explain that.

//

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 22, 2018 • 1:59:43am

It’s raining from one end of California to the other.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 2:06:26am

Nestle close fam and I’ll let you in on a lil’ secret. If you have an Amazon Prime account and are doing your holiday shopping over the next few days you can choose free no rush shipping on Prime eligible items and get $5 credit on Prime Now.

Wait, that’s not the secret.

The secret is to check out and pay for each item individually so you can stack up those $5 credits.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 2:23:34am

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Nestle close fam and I’ll let you in on a lil’ secret. If you have an Amazon Prime account and are doing your holiday shopping over the next few days you can choose free no rush shipping on Prime eligible items and get $5 credit on Prime Now.

Wait, that’s not the secret.

The secret is to check out and pay for each item individually so you can stack up those $5 credits.

I just secured $25 in credits with this trick, if I bought all of the items at once I’d have only gotten $5. Note, the credits come when the item ships.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 2:42:02am

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

I just secured $25 in credits with this trick, if I bought all of the items at once I’d have only gotten $5. Note, the credits come when the item ships.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Very transformative.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 2:43:06am

Trump May Move Ahead With Plans To Make Asylum Seekers Wait In Mexico: Report (Huffington Post)

Trying to get around the court order to process asylum claims, the Trump maladministration is drafting policy documents to require those seeking asylum to stay in Mexico unless they can demonstrate fear of staying there.

The proposal, dubbed “Remain in Mexico,” would be a dramatic change in government policy, which currently allows those seeking political asylum to remain in the United States while their applications are processed. The [Washington] Post, citing planning documents and three sources within the Department of Homeland Security, said that under President Donald Trump’s new plan anyone who couldn’t prove a “reasonable fear” of persecution in Mexico would be required to wait there.

It’s unclear if the policy would survive a court challenge, and a federal judge this week ordered the government to process all asylum applications after the Trump administration attempted to bar anyone in the U.S. illegally from doing so.

DHS spokeswoman Katie Waldman told the Post in a statement that there were no urgent plans to implement the policy, saying “every single legal option is on the table to secure our nation and to deal with the flood of illegal immigrants at our borders.”

(more)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 2:47:20am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

“the flood of illegal immigrants”

By definition, those seeking asylum are not illegal immigrants, because they present themselves at the border and surrender to border agents. An illegal immigrant is someone who evades border control and enters the USA without the proper paperwork, or who overstays a visit when the proper paperwork expires.

Likewise, a flood suggests hundreds of thousands or millions, when in fact the number is no more than 10,000 to 20,000 per year.

IOW they are lying.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 3:01:39am

Who designed that fugly … thing Melania is wearing? It might have been in style during a brief moment in the 1960s, but now - nope.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:28:40am

Since my turkey day cooking is minimal this year, I haven’t started yet. I’m making a bourbon/honey/brown sugar roasted turkey breast and all the basics.

I wanted to wish all of you a Happy Turkey 🦃 day and hope that this whole holiday thing we’ve concocted for ourselves is full of love and family and friends, for all of you. We’re still in recovery mode here, so much has went wrong this year, I think all of us could use a damned break, don’t you? So, thanks for being here, for being pretty fucking awesome, and for being kind and generous souls.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:29:48am
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jeffreyw  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:42:44am

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Good morning!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:42:50am

Trump seems upset. Did he get some bad news about Junior?

and

Only took him 8 minutes this time.

Shouldn’t he be watching the Macy Day Parade or something?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:44:07am

Great metal band name, though.

Bedlam, Chaos, Injury and Death

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:44:26am

re: #51 Targetpractice

My kingdom for a journalist who will ask Donny aloud “And how much of that money is going in your pockets?”

I would just like them to ask him why he is lying, since there definitely isn’t any $400 bn arms deal with the Saudis.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:45:53am

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

Why doesn’t he grovel for Canadians? Because we aren’t the ones lining his pockets with illicit funds.

All the Canadians down here need to buy Mar-A-Lago memberships!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:52:46am

re: #101 Big Beautiful Door

I would just like them to ask him why he is lying, since there definitely isn’t any $400 bn arms deal with the Saudis.

Maybe he’s talking about the money they just paid his organization to keep it afloat.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:54:23am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

It’s an hour past Thanksgiving Day in Mythical Time Zone in the USA. Avoid falling turkeys dropped from aircraft. Enjoy your holiday. Cube steak and beets here for dinner.

WKRP Turkey Drop “As God as my witness I thought turkeys could fly”

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:57:57am

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

When I went to school in Michigan, Home Ec was required for everyone in my school, whilst auto shop or agriculture were electives (which anyone could elect).

I sucked at Home Ec and barely got through alive.

Mine was the first class in Owensboro, Ky to integrate shop class and Home Ec, back in the seventies.

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Scout  Nov 22, 2018 • 4:59:18am

OK folks, sorry to subject you to this …

I went to the University of Washington. My best buddy went to Washington State University. This week is the Apple Cup, so I just sent him this. (Each of the captions are long-held sayings by each school’s fans.)

Yeah, it’s pretty imature. But what the heck, it’s rivalry week!

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:00:56am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

Trump doesn’t even know what we’re doing re: arms sales to the Saudis.

He inflates the amount of money the Saudis are paying for arms. He’s lying about the economic benefits.

He’s giving up our leverage to demand answers and justice, because he doesn’t care about any of this.

This isn’t realpolitik. This is bulkshit because he simply doesn’t get how any of this works, and he doesn’t care because all that matters to Trump is that the Saudis are lining his pockets with real estate deals. He thinks that if he takes a hard line it will mean that the Saudis go elsewhere (hint: they are - because Trump’s properties are old and busted, compared with the new hotness being built on Billionaire’s Row in Manhattan). Even on this, he can’t get it right.

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:02:14am

And oh yeah, greets and saluts from the frigid NYC metro area.

The dumbfuckers who equate weather with climate are out in force thanks to Trump leading the way. Let’s just ignore that we’ve already had the hottest October on record, and that follows the rest of the year that was on pace to be one of the warmest on record, following years that have been far warmer than average.

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Targetpractice  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:03:11am

Trump pardoned a turkey? I wasn’t even aware Don Jr had been indicted.

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:03:52am

re: #89 Single-handed sailor

Which may help tamp down the wildfires, but increases the risks of mudslides and flooding, as the slopes that are now barren thanks to the fires are unable to take up the water and send it downstream.

Super….

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:07:33am

re: #107 lawhawk

Trump doesn’t even know what we’re doing re: arms sales to the Saudis.

He inflates the amount of money the Saudis are paying for arms. He’s lying about the economic benefits.

He’s giving up our leverage to demand answers and justice, because he doesn’t care about any of this.

This isn’t realpolitik. This is bulkshit because he simply doesn’t get how any of this works, and he doesn’t care because all that matters to Trump is that the Saudis are lining his pockets with real estate deals. He thinks that if he takes a hard line it will mean that the Saudis go elsewhere (hint: they are - because Trump’s properties are old and busted, compared with the new hotness being built on Billionaire’s Row in Manhattan). Even on this, he can’t get it right.

Two more years of this nightmare before its over. Trump made the midterms a referendum on him, and the nation soundly rejected him. By the time all the votes are counted, the Democrats will pick up 40 seats in Congress, there will have been nearly as many votes cast for House Democratic candidates IN A MIDTERM, as were cast for Trump in 2016, which is nearly unheard of, and the Democratic House candidates will have outpolled Republicans by about 8 points. Nominate a decent candidate, and Trump should be turned out on his ear in 2020.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:22:53am

Some cool bossa nova: Insensatez.

Stanley Jordan e Nelson Faria | How Insensitive

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:31:16am

Musical edumacation time, for us theory dummies. Why is Coltrane’s “Giant Steps” such a PITA to play?

The most feared song in jazz, explained

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:34:27am

Happy Thanksgiving everybody.

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:39:30am

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 5:54:31am
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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:11:44am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:16:08am

re: #117 Belafon

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mmmirele  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:18:31am

re: #79 The Ghost of a Flea

There’s a critical immigration test in which a piece of unbleached paper is placed on the epidermis of the subject and a comparison of their hue is made.

It’s all very scientific.

I watched a video the other day of a Japanese tattoo artist named Horitomo who is over here on an O-1 visa. He’s an excellent tattoo artist; some of his work reflects Japanese woodblock art. However (and I know this from going there), tattooing is for all intents and purposes illegal in Japan and Horitomo thought he’d do better if he was in a country where tattooing has a better reputation. Now he’s here in the States and his list for an appointment is four years long.

The Japanese Tattoo Duo: Taki & Horitomo - TATTOO AGE (Full Episode)

When I was in Japan last month, we visited a public onsen (hot spring baths) and there were signs in English telling us that people with tattoos were not allowed. Our guide told us there was a discussion going on in Japanese society about this, because so many tourists are coming here, and so many of them have tattoos. But for right now, tattooing is frowned upon in a big way because it’s a symbol of the Japanese gangsters or yakuza.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:30:17am

It seems that Bernie has decided to write a column. I picked the nicer of the tweets I found on it:

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austin_blue  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:30:40am

re: #107 lawhawk

Trump doesn’t even know what we’re doing re: arms sales to the Saudis.

He inflates the amount of money the Saudis are paying for arms. He’s lying about the economic benefits.

He’s giving up our leverage to demand answers and justice, because he doesn’t care about any of this.

This isn’t realpolitik. This is bulkshit because he simply doesn’t get how any of this works, and he doesn’t care because all that matters to Trump is that the Saudis are lining his pockets with real estate deals. He thinks that if he takes a hard line it will mean that the Saudis go elsewhere (hint: they are - because Trump’s properties are old and busted, compared with the new hotness being built on Billionaire’s Row in Manhattan). Even on this, he can’t get it right.

How the hell did we get to the point where the people who found and killed Bin Laden are the bad guys and the people who financed 9/11 are the good guys?!?!

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:34:33am

Obama wouldn’t have criticized Alito in part because no single justice decides a case.

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:41:07am

re: #116 Belafon

George Takei ✔
@GeorgeTakei
For those of you forced to sit with Trump-supporting relatives on Thursday, when they bring up migrant caravans or witch hunts or Brett Kavanaugh or anything else that Twitler spews, just smile and say, “Looks like Nancy Pelosi will be Speaker soon. Would you pass the gravy?”

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12:18 PM - Nov 21, 2018

And then my oldest brother slams the table with his fist and throws down his napkin, gets up and storms his way into the other room to watch football, throwing off vibes that no one else should join him.

My sister-in-law then glares at me for saying that and upset I brought up politics ignoring her husband, my brother actually started in on politics.

My other brother and I look at each other and try hard to keep from laughing. Again we have stepped on the control of the master of the family since my parents are long gone…us two out-of-control and ungracious guests to his kingdom.

Say…how about some pie!

Those left at the table agree.

Happy Thanksgiving!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:44:12am

I’m sorry but with all the shit Trump has done to this country it’s hard to not talk politics this year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:45:41am

Also, I saw a funny cartoon this morning where it showed the Natives referring to the Pilgrim ships as a “Caravan of illegal invaders”

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sagehen  Nov 22, 2018 • 6:56:30am

Trump is doing his teleconference with troops in Afghanistan, talking about trade and hurricanes. The military people are trying so hard not to sound confused about why he thinks this is their mission.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:00:07am

re: #123 ObserverArt

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steve_davis  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:00:10am

Meanwhile, Fabiano Caruana, the American, and Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian, battle it out for the World Chess championship. In a different era, with a much different president, we’d be getting twitter updates from the white house supporting our guy. Instead, we have to amuse ourselves with this:

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:01:29am

re: #126 sagehen

Trump is trying to conflate the military mission against insurgents and terrorists with the migrants trying to enter the US to seek asylum.

This is just more red meat for the white nationalist base.

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Interesting Times  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:03:14am
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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:03:55am

I don’t know if you saw this, but the Parkland kids were awarded the International Children’s Peace Prize for their activism after the shooting: m.dailykos.com

Edit: I left out that it was presented by Desmond Tutu.

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:09:50am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:10:52am

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:14:55am

If you get stressed out during you family’s Thanksgiving Dinner tonight remember this:

Weed is safer than lettuce.

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retired cynic  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:19:36am

re: #68 Joe Bacon 🌹

I had to wear bifocals since I was 9 because I had double astigmatisms in both eyes. Kids used to call me “six eyes”. Oh, I hated that. Then when I went to high school I had to go to trifocals and I’ve had to wear them ever since. They can’t do Lasix on me because of the severe astigmatisms…

Joe, hang in for cataract repair. As I said later, the doc was afraid to try to pull my bad eye into 20/20 because of astigmatism. So he focused it for reading and then did the better eye for distance. He said it was too big a pull for the bad eye, and Could result in the operation failing. I would have been in your shoes if I hadn’t worn hard contacts. Couldn’t wear soft because of the astig. The hard lenses stopped the continual progress of the astig. getting worse. Was getting new prescriptions 3x a year, and only once in the 50 years+ following the contacts at age 15.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:20:00am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

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Well okay. Now we know what our principles are worth…..

We know what you are, were just arguing over the price

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:24:00am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

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Seafaring, coquito drinking Santa!  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:26:39am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:29:06am

re: #131 Belafon

I don’t know if you saw this, but the Parkland kids were awarded the International Children’s Peace Prize for their activism after the shooting: m.dailykos.com

Oh can you imagine the wingnut rage if they got the next Nobel Peace Prize? Or even Time’s Persons of the Year?

As for Time, I’m not sure what would be better - the Parkland Kids or AOC - for driving the Mango Moron into a fit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:29:27am

So I was looking at the Senate map for 2020, and unless Espy pulls off a miracle in the Mississippi runoff it will be a hard slog to get to 50 for the Democrats. GOP Senators in Az, Co and Me will be primary targets, and if the Democrats have good candidates they may be able to pickoff one from Tx, Ga or NC. But Doug Jones will have a hard time surviving without a pedophile to run against; with Nelson’s loss* he is the last Democratic Senator south of Virginia. We need Tx, Ga and/or NC to turn purple to break the reactionary stranglehold on the Senate. I’d love to vote for someone to defeat Yurtle, but I just don’t see it happening.

*Thanks to bad ballot design in Broward County; way to go Florida!

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:32:02am
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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:33:20am
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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:33:37am

After this morning, I just ran 30 days in a row, 260 miles. (and boy am i tired)

A running log can be helpful, or it can become the seductive Siren’s song.

- a log should be a story; a reflection of what you have done; like a diary.
- It’s also a good tool to keep you on track and focused toward specific goals
- it should not, in my opinion, ever be about building up statistics. the log is a post hoc tool, not a goal in itself.

Aside from the love of running, if you are aiming, however gently, to improve, or master a specific race, then you will inevitably have to focus on things that don’t always pad or increase the log. Two simple examples are the pre long race taper, and rest days. There should never be tension because what you need to do doesn’t also build up the log.

I had been trying to figure out how to get over repeatedly dismal monday mornings. After long run sundays i couldnt wake up monday and run at all. Each monday was a rest day and not by choice. So i tweaked this and that and found a winning formula.

I knew this day would be coming eventually even though I wasn’t trying or paying all that much attention - fighting back the Siren. And I didnt do anything different than I otherwise would “to ensure the victory” - i just kept loping along daily and it just happened naturally.

My longest streak ever was 85 days and 479 miles back in 2014. The Siren was compelling back then and i really pushed it.

Still…exciting

Happy thanksgiving if you do,
Enjoy your thursday if you don’t

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:37:33am

re: #73 Single-handed sailor

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Americans, can’t even right a Hobie Cat. It really is an idiocracy.

You could do it one handed, right?

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retired cynic  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:38:40am

re: #98 jeffreyw

I have five, just that age. Bouncing and tumbling!

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:41:48am

re: #142 lawhawk

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The Orange shitstain is as vile as ever.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:43:59am

re: #96 A Mom Anon

Since my turkey day cooking is minimal this year, I haven’t started yet. I’m making a bourbon/honey/brown sugar roasted turkey breast and all the basics.

I wanted to wish all of you a Happy Turkey 🦃 day and hope that this whole holiday thing we’ve concocted for ourselves is full of love and family and friends, for all of you. We’re still in recovery mode here, so much has went wrong this year, I think all of us could use a damned break, don’t you? So, thanks for being here, for being pretty fucking awesome, and for being kind and generous souls.

Mom you are tough and strong
Smile today

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:45:03am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:45:14am

re: #142 lawhawk

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Trump’s aides are every bit as stupid as their chief.

Everyone knows if he gets the time he will start going down his list of current grievances and then go into campaign rage mode and all the ugly comes gushing out.

Though he might get confused when the military members don’t start to chant “lock her up.”

You want Trump quiet? Don’t let the papaya pig out in public.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:45:27am

re: #142 lawhawk

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All if this is supposed to be about how great the Generalissimo is, not the troops, or the courts, or Democracy.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:47:32am

Morning Lizards. Happy Thanksgiving. Not doing much today. Dinner will be the traditional turkey breast, stuffing with gravy, rolls, baked yams and sweet peas. Might wander up to the C-store and pick up some ice cream for desert.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:49:02am

re: #140 Big Beautiful Door

So I was looking at the Senate map for 2020, and unless Espy pulls off a miracle in the Mississippi runoff it will be a hard slog to get to 50 for the Democrats. GOP Senators in Az, Co and Me will be primary targets, and if the Democrats have good candidates they may be able to pickoff one from Tx, Ga or NC. But Doug Jones will have a hard time surviving without a pedophile to run against; with Nelson’s loss* he is the last Democratic Senator south of Virginia. We need Tx, Ga and/or NC to turn purple to break the reactionary stranglehold on the Senate. I’d love to vote for someone to defeat Yurtle, but I just don’t see it happening.

*Thanks to bad ballot design in Broward County; way to go Florida!

Getting a head start on pre-election gloom and doom? I remind you that this board enjoyed a pre-midterms avalanche of talk about the impossibility of anything changing, and yet here we are.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:51:06am

My brother and his wife are hosting this year. I bought some cheap meal-serving plastic containers to bring a single meal’s worth of leftovers home, but we won’t be stuck with most of it this year.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:53:58am

re: #152 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Getting a head start on pre-election gloom and doom? I remind you that this board enjoyed a pre-midterms avalanche of talk about the impossibility of anything changing, and yet here we are.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

And you too! Just being realistic; 50 is doable, but it will require hard work and some luck, and we shouldn’t be surprised if the GOP retains the majority. I hope the Democrats recruit a very good candidate in NC, because it looks like our best bet in the Southern states to pick up a seat. The Democratic Governor may be a good one, since he ran and won a statewide race.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:58:04am

re: #118 Big Beautiful Door

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Just another chapter in my book How to Make Money off the Mentally ill

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 7:59:21am

Here is a bit of good news; the Kentucky State Fair Board banned the sale of Nazi, Klan and other racist memorabilia on its properties, effective immediately. Such items were being sold at a gun show on the Fair Grounds in Louisville the same week that a racist murdered two African-Americans at a Louisville Krogers.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:00:04am

re: #154 Big Beautiful Door

And you too! Just being realistic; 50 is doable, but it will require hard work and some luck, and we shouldn’t be surprised if the GOP retains the majority. I hope the Democrats recruit a very good candidate in NC, because it looks like our best bet in the Southern states to pick up a seat. The Democratic Governor may be a good one, since he ran and won a statewide race.

I want looking, and CNBC was listing the most vulnerable in 2020. They had Lamb Jones in Alabama and Sheehan in New Hampshire for Dems, but they had Collins, Gardner in Colorado, the Arizona seat of Kyl’s, and a few other Republican seats.

Edited

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BlueGrl21  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:01:44am

re: #56 mmmirele

Fort Bend ISD was the first school district I went to in Texas way back in 1973 and my mother absolutely HATED it with the heat of a billion suns. We’d just moved from Northern California and the culture shock was severe. They “tracked” junior high school students (where you went to classes with the same students on the same academic level) and my mother thought that was inappropriate. She was particularly livid that the junior high would not enroll me in home economics, because the guidance counselor said that was for “Mexican and black girls destined to become maids.”

I hated John Foster Dulles Junior High School and was glad to leave after four months. And yeah, it was seriously racist. Not that Klein High School was much better, although the current African-American mayor of Houston, Sylvester Turner, graduated from Klein in 1973.

Fort Bend is still segregated depending on where you are, though Southern Fort Bend will vigorously deny it. There is a war over redistricting right now because some of the white kids in a rich white neighborhood would be zoned to a primarily black school. It is BAD.

We’re in Northern Fort Bend, where everyone is mixed in together. My kid’s schools are some of the most diverse in the country. My husband teaches and coaches at our high school and it never ceases to make me smile seeing all of the different races mixed in together in the stands. Not just sitting next to each other, friends.

I had a young employee from India visiting. I took him to a game. He said, “Will I need to show my papers?” I said, “Bring them, but everyone will just assume you’re a student.” Yep, that’s exactly what happened.

Fort Bend is huge now. And there is definitely a difference between the Northern and Southern halves. Ironic how that worked out.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:01:55am

re: #157 Belafon

I want looking, and CNBC was listing the most vulnerable in 2020. They had Lamb in Alabama and Sheehan in New Hampshire for Dems, but they had Collins, Gardner in Colorado, the Arizona seat of Kyl’s, and a few other Republican seats.

You mean Doug Jones in Alabama.

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jeffreyw  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:06:12am

re: #145 retired cynic

I have five, just that age. Bouncing and tumbling!

That’s Homer as a baby kitteh. Here he is in later years, asking me to quit that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:06:14am

re: #18 teleskiguy

Like anything on the human body, things atrophy over time. Genetically I got my father’s eyes, my mother has been nearsighted her whole life, has worn glasses since she was seven. My father never wore glasses until his late 50s, for reading. He’s 70 now and has to wear corrective glasses while driving.

Over the past ten years, I have really started to notice that driving at night is a an ever-increasing strain without high-beams, which I obviously cannot use all the time.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:06:22am
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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:06:48am

re: #159 Big Beautiful Door

You mean Doug Jones in Alabama.

Thanks, yeah.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:07:41am

re: #162 Big Beautiful Door

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:08:11am

re: #162 Big Beautiful Door

A Turkish newspaper is reporting that the CIA now has a recording of MBS ordering the killing of Kashoggi. Don’t know how credible this is.

well if he and trump were talking on trump’s phone….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:09:09am

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

Why doesn’t he grovel for Canadians? Because we aren’t the ones lining his pockets with illicit funds.

And you do not have access to masses of embarrassing personal and financial secrets that he would like to keep under wraps.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:16:06am

re: #157 Belafon

I want looking, and CNBC was listing the most vulnerable in 2020. They had Lamb in Alabama and Sheehan in New Hampshire for Dems, but they had Collins, Gardner in Colorado, the Arizona seat of Kyl’s, and a few other Republican seats.

Considering how well Democrats did in Iowa this year, Joni Ernst should be on the target list as well. That helps!

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:17:53am

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

Considering how well Democrats did in Iowa this year, Joni Ernst should be on the target list as well. That helps!

She was. I had reached the limit of names I could remember.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:18:05am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:18:25am

re: #127 Belafon

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Sage advice, to go with that awful sage/cornbread dressing so many people insist on stuffing down.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:22:55am

Turkey accuses U.S. of turning blind eye to Saudi killing of Khashoggi

Turkey accused the United States on Wednesday of trying to turn a blind eye to the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul, and dismissed comments from President Donald Trump on the issue as “comic”.

Trump vowed on Tuesday to remain a “steadfast partner” of Saudi Arabia, despite saying that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman may have known about the plan to murder to Khashoggi, a U.S. resident and Washington Post columnist.

Of the possibility Prince Mohammed had a hand in the murder, Trump said: “Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t”. His comments contradicted the CIA, which believes Khashoggi’s death was ordered directly by the crown prince, Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler.

Numan Kurtulmus, the deputy chairman of President Tayyip Erdogan’s AK Party, dismissed Trump’s assessment. “Yesterday’s statement is a comic statement,” he told state broadcaster TRT Haber.

“It is not possible for an intelligence agency such as the CIA, which even knows the color of the fur on the cat walking around the Saudi consulate’s garden … to not know who gave this order,” he said. “This is not credible either for U.S. public opinion or the world public opinion.”

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:24:21am

I hope Ohio can deal Rob Portman out as Senator. It is going to be real tough, but if the Dems can associate him enough with Trump and paint him being a useless wimp refusing to stand up to Trump, he might have a tough time. No idea who the Democrats would run though.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:24:21am

re: #168 Belafon

She was. I had reached the limit of names I could remember.

To be optimistic, I see only 18 states where a Democratic candidate can’t expect to be competitive except in very unusual circumstances (like when the GOP nominates a pedophile). I included Texas on that list, but not Georgia or NC. I hope Texas proves me wrong in 2020.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:25:56am

re: #172 ObserverArt

I hope Ohio can deal Rob Portman out as Senator. It is going to be real tough, but if the Dems can associate him enough with Trump and paint him being a useless wimp refusing to stand up to Trump, he might have a tough time. No idea who the Democrats would run though.

Unfortunately, his term is next up in 2022.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:27:32am

Trump could have turned up at any number of US military bases, even a far-flung domestic one, dished out some stuffing and then gone back home and garnered fawning praise for being the Most Presidential of All Presidents, but it seems he is not motivated enough to want to do that…

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:31:54am

re: #174 Big Beautiful Door

Unfortunately, his term is next up in 2022.

Ahhh crap, that’s right. It just feels like he has been in office forever, like a full two terms. Damn it. I really hate the guy. He just hides and never really talks to Ohioans. He speaks in general Washington Republican terms. If people hate the ‘establishment’ so much, here is your guy. He’s been a Bushie and a conservative balanced budget wonk for a long time.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:33:07am

re: #169 Belafon

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Well, to be fair, being a spymaster in Russia pretty much means that being bumped off is, in fact, “death by natural causes”.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:36:06am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump could have turned up at any number of US military bases, even a far-flung domestic one, dished out some stuffing and then gone back home and garnered fawning praise for being the Most Presidential of All Presidents, but it seems he is not motivated enough to want to do that…

Trump doesn’t serve anyone but himself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:36:36am

re: #177 Dr Lizardo

Well, to be fair, being a spymaster in Russia pretty much means that being bumped off is, in fact, “death by natural causes”.

Just like being immolated by an exploding turkey deep-fat fryer on Thanksgiving is death by natural causes in Florida

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:37:59am

re: #176 ObserverArt

Ahhh crap, that’s right. It just feels like he has been in office forever, like a full two terms. Damn it. I really hate the guy. He just hides and never really talks to Ohioans. He speaks in general Washington Republican terms. If people hate the ‘establishment’ so much, here is your guy. He’s been a Bushie and a conservative balanced budget wonk for a long time.

IOW, totally worthless.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:38:00am

To all, have a great Thanksgiving however you may enjoy it.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:38:01am

re: #177 Dr Lizardo

Well, to be fair, being a spymaster in Russia pretty much means that being bumped off is, in fact, “death by natural causes”.

Who knew Game of Thrones was a documentary?

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:38:20am

So, it seems Hillary has stepped in it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:38:47am

re: #177 Dr Lizardo

Well, to be fair, being a spymaster in Russia pretty much means that being bumped off is, in fact, “death by natural causes”.

Like being second in command to Darth Vader.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:39:18am

re: #184 Big Beautiful Door

Like being second in command to Darth Vader.

and being of little faith

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:39:26am

And Trump is thankful for all the things he’s done for the country.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:39:41am

re: #183 Belafon

So, it seems Hillary has stepped in it.

Well the Right is always going to find something to be outraged about, so it might was well be her. What now?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:40:23am

re: #186 Belafon

And Trump is thankful for all the things he’s done for the country.

You mean “done to the country”, don’t you?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:41:22am

re: #177 Dr Lizardo

Well, to be fair, being a spymaster in Russia pretty much means that being bumped off is, in fact, “death by natural causes”.

When is someone finally going to take care of Putin?

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:42:37am
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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:43:00am

re: #187 Big Beautiful Door

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:46:00am

re: #191 Belafon

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Yea, no. Immigration across the southern border is already way down, but that doesn’t stop Trump from demagoguing the issue.

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gwangung  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:46:05am

re: #191 Belafon

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Yeah, on this one, I’d say…Shut up, Hilary!

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lizardofid  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:47:53am

re: #191 Belafon

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It would have been a great time to call for united action, aimed at reducing the turmoil and suffering which causes the need for migration.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:49:10am

And I’m also finding out something really annoying. The movie Green Book, which is supposed to be based on the relationship between two actual people, has a lot of the stuff about Dr. Don Shirly wrong:

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Interesting Times  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:50:57am

re: #191 Belafon

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…and this right here is why my BoB friend hates Hillary and would never vote for her -_- It’s also why I think that, had she won in 2016, the Dem base would’ve been so demotivated in 2018 that GOPers would’ve swept to a supermajority* in the Senate.

*I mean…I’m loathe to go all Susan-Sarandon and claim Mango Mussolini’s election was “worth it” for the blowback…but if it helped stave off what otherwise would have been this plus the required GOPer state wins to pull off a constitutional convention…I don’t know. Sucks that America was in this position to begin with.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:50:59am

re: #194 lizardofid

It would have been a great time to call for united action, aimed at reducing the turmoil and suffering which causes the need for migration.

“The use of immigrants as a political device and as a symbol of government gone wrong, of attacks on one’s heritage, one’s identity, one’s national unity has been very much exploited by the current administration here,” she said.

“There are solutions to migration that do not require clamping down on the press, on your political opponents and trying to suborn the judiciary, or seeking financial and political help from Russia to support your political parties and movements.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:51:07am

re: #191 Belafon

“Europe needs to get a handle on immigration” can be interpreted in many ways, and yes, it has gotten out of hand just due to the sheer numbers, over a million refugees in Germany alone over the past three years.

And Germany let itself be used by other European nations who refused to take in refugees in any large numbers. They would be fully justified in insisting on an European quota system based on population and/or share of GDP, which would still leave Germany with the largest share but not with the overwhelming numbers that it has now.

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lizardofid  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:52:12am

Here’s wishing every one a Happy Thanksgiving.

(grandson is instructed to have the Adele cued up and ready)

Later all!

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:53:03am

re: #195 Belafon

And I’m also finding out something really annoying. The movie Green Book, which is supposed to be based on the relationship between two actual people, has a lot of the stuff about Dr. Don Shirly wrong:

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That is just typical for movies.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:53:20am

re: #195 Belafon

And I’m also finding out something really annoying. The movie Green Book, which is supposed to be based on the relationship between two actual people, has a lot of the stuff about Dr. Don Shirly wrong:

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Unless a movie is a documentary, don’t expect it to be a faithful accounting of what really happened. Usually, there is an advisory that the film is “inspired by real events” or “based on a true story”

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:55:56am

re: #195 Belafon

I still plan to watch it because I love the two stars. It’s not a documentary so I don’t expect 100% accuracy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:56:07am

Of course, Happy Thanksgiving to all lizards, wherever you may live!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:56:37am

re: #193 gwangung

Yeah, on this one, I’d say…Shut up, Hilary!

read through the article, getting a handle on immigration is not the same as sending armed troops with orders to open fire, it is just that the very magnitude of the situation is overwhelming the governments’ ability to deal with them in a just and humane manner.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:56:39am

re: #196 Interesting Times

…and this right here is why my BoB friend hates Hillary and would never vote for her -_- It’s also why I think that, had she won in 2016, the Dem base would’ve been so demotivated in 2018 that GOPers would’ve swept to a supermajority* in the Senate.

*I mean…I’m loathe to go all Susan-Sarandon and claim Mango Mussolini’s election was “worth it” for the blowback…but if it helped stave off what otherwise would have been this plus the required GOPer state wins to pull off a constitutional convention…I don’t know. Sucks that America was in this position to begin with.

That is the schizophrenic nature of American politics. If Clinton was President, the GOP would likely have retained its House majority and won even more Senate seats than it did. If we luck out, the silver lining to four years of Trump may be Democratic control of Congress and the WH in 2021.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:58:23am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:59:34am
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Weaselone  Nov 22, 2018 • 8:59:45am

re: #191 Belafon
Example 1,675,187 why one should read Hillary’s comments I context instead of just reading the clickbait.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:02:27am

re: #172 ObserverArt

I hope Ohio can deal Rob Portman out as Senator. It is going to be real tough, but if the Dems can associate him enough with Trump and paint him being a useless wimp refusing to stand up to Trump, he might have a tough time. No idea who the Democrats would run though.

Cordray?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:05:45am

re: #207 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And THAT would send us straight into a fucking recession, among other problems.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:06:37am

re: #205 Big Beautiful Door

That is the schizophrenic nature of American politics. If Clinton was President, the GOP would likely have retained its House majority and won even more Senate seats than it did. If we luck out, the silver lining to four years of Trump may be Democratic control of Congress and the WH in 2021.

Yep. Showing the true nature of Republicans (and making it stick on all of them) might, in the long run, be better for us and the world.

Nixon has been praised recently for being better than Trump, not selling us out to Russia, and having some real progressive accomplishments, but Rachel’s program showed how Nixon was responsible for torpedoing peace talks in 1968. It’s certainly possible that the talks would have failed anyway and the carnage continued, but Nixon’s intervention guaranteed this — and as a result, tens of thousands of Americans, 100,000’s Vietnamese — and a million Cambodians perished as a result of his election. (Yes — I do blame Nixon for Pol Pot gaining control in Cambodia). So far Trump’s death toll had been significantly less.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:08:32am

re: #205 Big Beautiful Door

That is the schizophrenic nature of American politics. If Clinton was President, the GOP would likely have retained its House majority and won even more Senate seats than it did. If we luck out, the silver lining to four years of Trump may be Democratic control of Congress and the WH in 2021.

That’s what I was thinking as well.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:10:05am

re: #202 Patricia Kayden

I still plan to watch it because I love the two stars. It’s not a documentary so I don’t expect 100% accuracy.

Exactly.
When it’s a documentary they tell you. When they say based on, there are many accurate circumstances but all else is dramatic license for fiction production. In any case more people will now learn about that time and those people than otherwise. And have a great time taking in the look and performances.

The documentary format is not the blood enemy of inspired fiction. You can’t have both at the same time.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:11:56am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

That’s what I was thinking as well.

The Democratic midterm turnout was spectacular. If we can keep that energy going and have a record turnout in 2020, we could set the stage for some real progressive law making in 2021, if they are willing to ditch the filibuster. Otherwise they will only be able to pass what they can get through reconciliation.

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:12:59am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Europe needs to get a handle on immigration” can be interpreted in many ways, and yes, it has gotten out of hand just due to the sheer numbers, over a million refugees in Germany alone over the past three years.

And Germany let itself be used by other European nations who refused to take in refugees in any large numbers. They would be fully justified in insisting on an European quota system based on population and/or share of GDP, which would still leave Germany with the largest share but not with the overwhelming numbers that it has now.

Hillary is going to be speak when asked. She has that right and the career to go with it.

The problem is she can so easily be taken to task when she speaks about political theories. To me that is all she was doing, discussing how you position for a political fight against fascist thinking and whether halting immigration is good until you get your own people back under control and into allowing it.

That is a huge problem in today’s politics. There can be no discussion. I’m not going to blame both sides. To me it is clear conservatives are the rock that won’t budge. The media just makes it into both sides because it is easy and they can use nothing gets done as proof.

Add that atmosphere to anything Hillary says and it is going to be bad.

And note the use of the word “centrist” politics in the piece. That alone is a dangerous word in today’s politics, but it is the path to getting back to normal.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:15:51am

I mean you can understand why a family would be upset for obvious reasons. That’s their family being portrayed on screen and sometimes audiences can’t separate fictional scenes inspired by real events with the reality. That’s why imo historical fiction novels are a little tough for me to read although I enjoy fictional realism. A similar but different type of fiction. I look forward to seeing the movie too. Ali and Viggo are both fantastic talents.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:16:51am

re: #214 Big Beautiful Door

The Democratic midterm turnout was spectacular. If we can keep that energy going and have a record turnout in 2020, we could set the stage for some real progressive law making in 2021, if they are willing to ditch the filibuster. Otherwise they will only be able to pass what they can get through reconciliation.

If McConnell is gone and replaced by a decent Republican, then even with the filibuster, we may have serious accomplishments. Oh wait, who am I kidding? The Republican party gets worse with each cycle.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:17:34am

re: #214 Big Beautiful Door

The Democratic midterm turnout was spectacular. If we can keep that energy going and have a record turnout in 2020, we could set the stage for some real progressive law making in 2021, if they are willing to ditch the filibuster. Otherwise they will only be able to pass what they can get through reconciliation.

Exactly I obviously wish Clinton would have won but what happened has happened and it’s woken a lot of people especially women up that may have not had HRC won.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:17:42am

re: #207 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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‘lost control’ of what?
people asking to come into the US?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:20:30am
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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:21:58am

re: #215 ObserverArt

Hillary is going to be speak when asked. She has that right and the career to go with it.

The problem is she can so easily be taken to task when she speaks about political theories. To me that is all she was doing, discussing how you position for a political fight against fascist thinking and whether halting immigration is good until you get your own people back under control and into allowing it.

That is a huge problem in today’s politics. There can be no discussion. I’m not going to blame both sides. To me it is clear conservatives are the rock that won’t budge. The media just makes it into both sides because it is easy and they can use nothing gets done as proof.

Add that atmosphere to anything Hillary says and it is going to be bad.

And note the use of the word “centrist” politics in the piece. That alone is a dangerous word in today’s politics, but it is the path to getting back to normal.

- hillary will speak for an extended period of time
- usually with great nuance
- then the ‘reporting’ is reduced to one sentence that is not at all representative of what she said or meant

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sagehen  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:23:15am

re: #201 Hecuba’s daughter

Unless a movie is a documentary, don’t expect it to be a faithful accounting of what really happened. Usually, there is an advisory that the film is “inspired by real events” or “based on a true story”

Even Hidden Figures, which tried so hard to be as accurate as possible in almost every detail, had a historical error.

That scene where Katherine Johnson (Taraji P Henson) had to run halfway across the complex to find a bathroom she could use… turns out, NASA was the one place in the entire State of Virginia that didn’t have segregated bathrooms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:23:47am

re: #215 ObserverArt

Hillary is going to be speak when asked. She has that right and the career to go with it.

One big talking point among the alt-right in Europe is “They have millions to spend on housing refugees but no money for our own poor and homeless!”

To which a leftist politician, Gregor Gysi responded “Even without refugees, there would not be any money available for the poor and homeless.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:26:46am

re: #222 sagehen

First Man got the year of the X-15 flight wrong in the opening scene. But soooo much right. Which will be my measure Saturday for Green Book. First Man inspired me to read Scott Crossfields book about Edwards and the X Planes. I’m think Green Book with do the same and people will learn.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:27:58am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:29:30am

re: #222 sagehen

Even Hidden Figures, which tried so hard to be as accurate as possible in almost every detail, had a historical error.

That scene where Katherine Johnson (Taraji P Henson) had to run halfway across the complex to find a bathroom she could use… turns out, NASA was the one place in the entire State of Virginia that didn’t have segregated bathrooms.

That is cinematic license: instead of showing all the small and petty ways in which people of color were discriminated it, they boiled it down to a very major symbol.

I recall the big battle scene in Braveheart in which the English cavalry charge and impale themselves on Scottish spears.

Except it wasn’t that way: the English crossed Stirling Bridge four abreast and tried to reform into line in boggy ground across the bridge, whereupon Scottish spearmen descended on them and cut them to bits.

But that, cinematically speaking, would have generated some degree of sympathy for the poor helpless horses and riders.

The movie showed them getting their just deserts*. And the point was, it was impetuous for the English to attack across the bridge when they could have crossed in formation a bit farther upstream, but did not wait.

*that is the correct spelling: “deserts” with stress on second syllable as in “what one deserves”.

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Belafon  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:30:04am

I agree that nuance is lost. And, while I agree that immigration is giving racists something to rally around, getting immigration under control isn’t going to slow the racists down. I think her focus should have been more toward continuing to improve programs that take care of citizens as well as immigrants, not declare that they need to be acknowledged.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:31:40am

re: #225 dangerman

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Japan might have bombed Pearl Harbor. Who knows? It might have been a 400 pound hacker in his parents’ basement. Hope everyone is having fun at Pearl Harbor. General Tojo is very kind and doing great things for Japan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:32:38am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Japan might have bombed Pearl Harbor. Who knows? It might have been a 400 pound hacker in his parents’ basement. Hope everyone is having fun at Pearl Harbor. General Tojo is very kind and doing great things for Japan.

The Japanese are great, they buy real estate and apartments and let me build casinos in Yokohama…

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lawhawk  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:35:21am

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

And THAT would send us straight into a fucking recession, among other problems.

With JIT process of goods and services, this will quickly result in supply chain disruption of many industries, including automakers, requiring shutdown and cause immediate impacts to all involved.

Trump doesn’t know or care. He just spews whatever garbage cycles through. There are no advisers willing to tell him otherwise. He’s awful and the people around him are worse.

Trump’s entire schtick is that he’s a great businessman, and yet every day his economic policies would undermine the continued economic growth we see.

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sagehen  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:36:05am

re: #225 dangerman

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Somewhat related: During the Cuban missile crisis, JFK told de Galle “we have photos we can show you”… de Galle responded “I don’t need to see photos. The word of the President of the United States is good enough for me.”

Something nobody will ever say again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:38:09am

re: #225 dangerman

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:39:30am

re: #227 Belafon

I agree that nuance is lost. And, while I agree that immigration is giving racists something to rally around, getting immigration under control isn’t going to slow the racists down. I think her focus should have been more toward continuing to improve programs that take care of citizens as well as immigrants, not declare that they need to be acknowledged.

Will that shut up those stirring up the nationalists thinking? Because they don’t really care about saving the current citizens that don’t meet their desires either let alone allowing others.

It is hard to be reasonable with those that won’t reason. I think she was trying to look for ways to deal with the unreasonable. We are at that point. And in a democracy when reason exits what do you have?

For sure political ideals die because they rely on cooperation.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:39:35am

Ramblings of a sociopath. Truly a toadstool. Follow that thread. For posterity.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:44:31am

As it happened. I have always been in awe of Walter Cronkite’s control and professionalism. He knew JFK well and was very fond of him. He had to get the facts to his audience of millions, though, and he did.

JFK coverage 12:30pm-1:40pm 11/22/63.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:44:55am

re: #234 nines09

Ramblings of a sociopath. Truly a toadstool. Follow that thread. For posterity.

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What a way to show thanks on Thanksgiving. Who else but Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:47:44am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

What a way to show thanks on Thanksgiving. Who else but Trump.

again, he could have visited any number of Army bases, not even necessarily even abroad, but did not find it necessary

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:48:34am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, he could have visited any number of Army bases, not even necessarily even abroad, but did not find it necessary

He’s a graceless asshole no doubt about it.

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plansbandc  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:50:32am

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:50:35am

comey’s lawyer’s response to the subpoena

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:51:12am

And in a more somber note today is the 55th anniversary of the assassination of
John F Kennedy in Dallas.
I was 12 years old. I was walking home from Jr High.
I saw an older woman sitting on a step crying.
I asked her if she was OK.
She said “They shot him. They shot him.”
I asked who.
“The president. They shot Kennedy.”
My mother was crying when I got home.
Then I watched on live TV Jack Ruby shoot Lee Harvey Oswald that night.
The world blew up in front of me.

Then you look at who sits in that office today.
We put men on the moon.
We’ve been to the edge before.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:53:28am

re: #241 nines09

And in a more somber note today is the 55th anniversary of the assassination of
John F Kennedy in Dallas.
I was 12 years old. I was walking home from Jr High.
I saw an older woman sitting on a step crying.
I asked her if she was OK.
She said “They shot him. They shot him.”
I asked who.
“The president. They shot Kennedy.”
My mother was crying when I got home.
Then I watched on live TV Jack Ruby shoot Lee Harvey Oswald that night.
The world blew up in front of me.

Then you look at who sits in that office today.
We put men on the moon.
We’ve been to the edge before.

Kennedy dreamed of a man on the moon. Trump dreams of making the country less inclusive.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:54:40am

re: #233 ObserverArt

Will that shut up those stirring up the nationalists thinking? Because they don’t really care about saving the current citizens that don’t meet their desires either let alone allowing others.

It is hard to be reasonable with those that won’t reason. I think she was trying to look for ways to deal with the unreasonable. We are at that point. And in a democracy when reason exits what do you have?

For sure political ideals die because they rely on cooperation.

im not much of a michael moore fan. still, he said this wrt reaching out to conservatives:

you can’t build bridges to racists and misogynists; they have to be shunned…

To others, we can explain to them our vision, how it will benefit them and ask them to give us a chance in 2020.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:55:09am

re: #241 nines09

I remember that day too. I was almost 2 years old. And everybody was stunned by the news.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 9:58:52am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Kennedy dreamed of a man on the moon. Trump dreams of making the country less inclusive.

honestly i dont think so
he dreams of lining his pockets and having things his way

i dont think he knows or much cares what “his way” is, as long as he gets it
—you know a win!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:01:56am

re: #244 PhillyPretzel

I remember that day too. I was almost 2 years old. And everybody was stunned by the news.

I was four years old. I do not recall it at all. I do recall that I was really upset some days later because I could not watch Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons on TV because they were all covering the JFK funeral

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:03:49am

re: #245 dangerman

honestly i dont think so
he dreams of lining his pockets and having things his way

i dont think he knows or much cares what “his way” is, as long as he gets it
—you know a win!!!!

That’s true. May be giving him too much credit for having a vision beyond himself.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:04:44am

re: #241 nines09

And in a more somber note today is the 55th anniversary of the assassination of
John F Kennedy in Dallas.
I was 12 years old. I was walking home from Jr High.
I saw an older woman sitting on a step crying.
I asked her if she was OK.
She said “They shot him. They shot him.”
I asked who.
“The president. They shot Kennedy.”
My mother was crying when I got home.
Then I watched on live TV Jack Ruby shoot Lee Harvey Oswald that night.
The world blew up in front of me.

Then you look at who sits in that office today.
We put men on the moon.
We’ve been to the edge before.

If not for Jack Ruby’s intervention, Lee Harvey Oswald might very well still be alive (he would be 79). He would have been sentenced to death, of course, but the Texas death penalty was declared unconstitutional in 1972, probably before he would have been executed. History would be different, the conspiracy industry would be the fringe preserve of drug users, quack inventors, and Bircher cultists rather than a major factor in politics.

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:05:40am

re: #241 nines09

And in a more somber note today is the 55th anniversary of the assassination of
John F Kennedy in Dallas.
I was 12 years old. I was walking home from Jr High.
I saw an older woman sitting on a step crying.
I asked her if she was OK.
She said “They shot him. They shot him.”
I asked who.
“The president. They shot Kennedy.”
My mother was crying when I got home.
Then I watched on live TV Jack Ruby shoot Lee Harvey Oswald that night.
The world blew up in front of me.

Then you look at who sits in that office today.
We put men on the moon.
We’ve been to the edge before.

9 years old. Third grade in Catholic School. You can imagine the shock to the nuns and priests. It was bad…a pall over the whole school.

When I was picked up from school by my father, there was no talk. How could he talk to a nine year old? Kennedy was a hero to the first generation Catholic family in America.

That whole Friday was a life marker, one you can never forget, The whole weekend was just unbelievably historic and so much happened right before our eyes on TV.

Shiplord’s YouTube above with Walter brings it all back. I don’t know if I wanted to remember, but that did it.

In ways, I think that got me into reading more historic, biographic, police and crime books than any sci-fi or comedy. I read a whole lot of Kennedy from that day on.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:06:12am

I said it was that night I watched Jack Ruby shoot Lee Harvey, but it was 2 days later.
My memory is not what it once was.
I had to look that up.
I’ll leave my mistake up. That’s how I remember it. It was a whirlwind.

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austin_blue  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:09:33am

re: #230 lawhawk

With JIT process of goods and services, this will quickly result in supply chain disruption of many industries, including automakers, requiring shutdown and cause immediate impacts to all involved.

Trump doesn’t know or care. He just spews whatever garbage cycles through. There are no advisers willing to tell him otherwise. He’s awful and the people around him are worse.

Trump’s entire schtick is that he’s a great businessman, and yet every day his economic policies would undermine the continued economic growth we see.

And don’t forget food, especially fruits and vegetables.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:11:58am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:13:02am

My traditional brunch/late breakfast of pumpkin pie with vanilla ice cream, and a cup of black coffee has been consumed

I have a desire to nap

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:13:31am

Happy Thanksgiving all. I just thought this was joyous.

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makeitstop  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:14:10am

I was in second grade, and we had just come in from a school ‘hike’ around the neighborhood surrounding the school, ironically (JFK encouraged hiking and my elementary school took it seriously - they’d march entire classrooms full of kids around the neighborhood).

Once back in the classroom, our teacher Mrs. Berryman hushed us and told us what had happened and announced that school would let out early that day. One kid made a remark to the effect of ‘Oh, no, not another one’ - and was sent to the principal’s office.

I remember we had family over to our house that weekend, and a couple of cousins and I were playing with the radio. We hit one station that was playing mourning music and I remember thinking that it was the most grotesque music I’d ever heard.

And it rained all weekend.

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ObserverArt  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:14:38am

re: #250 nines09

I said it was that night I watched Jack Ruby shoot Lee Harvey, but it was 2 days later.
My memory is not what it once was.
I had to look that up.
I’ll leave my mistake up. That’s how I remember it. It was a whirlwind.

I count all three days as one unit. I knew what you meant. But yeah, I remember that Sunday.

Back from early Catholic mass, a nap before diner…turn on the TV and they break to show Oswald being led from the city jail to county, a chance for America to see the alleged killer of Kennedy. Suddenly, what…pop…and you see Oswald double over then mayhem as they load him in an ambulance and hurry out and others grab Rubby arm and gather him up.

We just saw a suspect killed on TV. This is history.

Diner is served. I was having a hard time processing this.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:18:40am

10000% this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:21:18am
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plansbandc  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:22:35am

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

Shouldn’t his family, friends, and congregation be happy? He’s gone to glory doing their God’s work.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:22:35am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:23:54am

re: #241 nines09

And in a more somber note today is the 55th anniversary of the assassination of
John F Kennedy in Dallas.
I was 12 years old. I was walking home from Jr High.
I saw an older woman sitting on a step crying.
I asked her if she was OK.
She said “They shot him. They shot him.”
I asked who.
“The president. They shot Kennedy.”
My mother was crying when I got home.
Then I watched on live TV Jack Ruby shoot Lee Harvey Oswald that night.
The world blew up in front of me.

Then you look at who sits in that office today.
We put men on the moon.
We’ve been to the edge before.

I was in 7th grade. The vice-principal came on the intercom and announced that the President had been “fired upon” in Dallas. Now in my 11-year-old understanding of the English language, “fired upon” meant “shot at but not hit”. So it was a surprise when after that class they had the news playing over the PA in the common areas and I realized he’d actually been shot. A slow-rolling shock.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:24:18am

I was old enough to understand the president was dead and the man they said murdered him was just shot on live TV in front of my eyes.
The whole world is crazy. Not just my crazy neighborhood. The world.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:25:04am

Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Lizards. You’re the only reason I’ve kept my sanity the last two years.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:25:15am

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

10000% this.

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Pulpit pimps are sitting down to their extravagant feasts and praying for him, while secretly thinking, “Poor sap, actually took this shit seriously.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:26:41am

re: #264 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There are right and wrong ways to reach out to people.

He chose a very wrong way. Jesus would not approve.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:27:23am

Remember the Halal turkey “scandal” cooked up by Vodka Pam a few years ago? Here’s an LGF greatest hit (can’t remember which Lizard came up with this).

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William Lewis  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:28:14am

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

10000% this.

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Some of us Christian types are quite familiar with it too. Especially when the fundy church up the road has it’s “world wide missionary conference” every year, sending people off to South America to do as much of that kind of damage in the name of messiah that none of them actually know.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:30:20am

re: #241 nines09

And in a more somber note today is the 55th anniversary of the assassination of
John F Kennedy in Dallas.
I was 12 years old. I was walking home from Jr High.
I saw an older woman sitting on a step crying.
I asked her if she was OK.
She said “They shot him. They shot him.”
I asked who.
“The president. They shot Kennedy.”
My mother was crying when I got home.
Then I watched on live TV Jack Ruby shoot Lee Harvey Oswald that night.
The world blew up in front of me.

Then you look at who sits in that office today.
We put men on the moon.
We’ve been to the edge before.

I was in the third grade. Around 1PM the second grade teacher came in to tell us Kennedy had been shot at.

Couple minutes later the principal came in and told us to go home that he had been murdered.

We were in shock. We left school, the custodian set the flag at half mast. He was crying.

Walking home, loud music coming from the house of the Republican committeeman.

He was celebrating.

Saw Jackie walking off the plane wearing her blood stained dress and I’m glad it was a black and white set we had because it toned the blood stains down.

Went to bed and had bad dreams of nuclear retaliation.

I remember watching TV Oswald coming out of the police station. Mom was on the phone saying she hoped he was put in the electric chair for what he did.

I saw Oswald get shot and Mom screamed in the phone that justice had been done.

World never was the same.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:30:39am

re: #260 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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” I’ve made a tremendous difference in the country.”

cant deny this - on so many levels

not only has he made a tremendous difference, he has brought out the tremendous differences between us (that apparently were always there)

maybe we thank him for that - it makes them way easier to see and reminds us we have to deal with them

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:31:06am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:32:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:32:25am

what a moron

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:33:36am

re: #266 Ace Rothstein

Remember the Halal turkey “scandal” cooked up by Vodka Pam a few years ago? Here’s an LGF greatest hit (can’t remember which Lizard came up with this).

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Whatever happened to Pam? Have not missed her, but your mention made me realize that she has been keeping a rather low profile as far as I can tell.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:34:13am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

Today I am thankful for the level of disgust I have for that orange, leather-faced asshole.

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BlueGrl21  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:35:53am

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

10000% this.

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Friends of mine and I have been going back and forth on this. We’re all Episcopalian, including a retired bishop. We have all reached a unanimous conclusion: This guy was a fucking moron.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:37:35am

$10 says Trump will never visit the troops.

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:37:39am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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what a moron

After the teleconference ends, a reporter asks Trump, “when are you going to Afghanistan or the Middle East?”

“We’re going to do some interesting things. At the appropriate time, we’ll be doing some interesting things,” Trump says.

try: ‘thank you. will you answer to my question?’

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:38:12am

re: #276 Eclectic Cyborg

$10 says Trump will never visit the troops.

It will never happen.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:38:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:39:06am

re: #276 Eclectic Cyborg

$10 says Trump will never visit the troops.

if he had made the effort, he would be reaping endless fawning praise for being the Most Presidential of All Presidents, but that seems to be too much work for someone used to being praised for doing nearly nothing

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:39:58am

It’s time to get the food prepped for dinner with friends.

I’m starting with making cauliflower au gratin

And I ordered Jamon iberico slices

Dessert includes a blueberry Kolachi Roll

And Prantl’s famous Burnt Almond Torte

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:40:54am

re: #281 Joe Bacon 🌹

That looks very good. Happy Thanksgiving. :)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:44:00am

Palin turkey slaughter interview, in full.

Sarah Palin’s Turkey Bloodbath Causes a Stir

Yep, I see a cruel, bloodthirsty psychopath; with an un-suspecting young man doing honest work in the food supply industry in the background.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:44:50am

Just think. Expectations for Trump are so low, all this slab of festering offal had to do was jump on a plane and visit troops somewhere, anywhere, and the press would have fallen all over themselves to point out that he has finally “pivoted” or has “turned a corner” or is “acting presidential”.
Just one fucking plane ride. They would have anointed him. Lathered him in salutations and sang praises of his worthiness.
But he shit the bed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:46:52am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:49:09am

re: #284 nines09

Just think. Expectations for Trump are so low, all this slab of festering offal had to do was jump on a plane and visit troops somewhere, anywhere, and the press would have fallen all over themselves to point out that he has finally “pivoted” or has “turned a corner” or is “acting presidential”.
Just one fucking plane ride. They would have anointed him. Lathered him in salutations and sang praises of his worthiness.
But he shit the bed.

even if he did, we still know the next day the pivot would be gone and we’d be back to whatever the hell you call this thing we’re in

im thankful for elections and presidential term limits
and no i dont think for a second he’ll overstay his welcome after he loses nor ‘change the laws’ in any way so he can stay

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:54:43am

re: #284 nines09

Just think. Expectations for Trump are so low, all this slab of festering offal had to do was jump on a plane and visit troops somewhere, anywhere, and the press would have fallen all over themselves to point out that he has finally “pivoted” or has “turned a corner” or is “acting presidential”.
Just one fucking plane ride. They would have anointed him. Lathered him in salutations and sang praises of his worthiness.
But he shit the bed.

I wonder if Trump even knows how to serve food in a line? Maybe he had KP at military school or something, but that was a long time ago and his memory is not so good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:56:15am

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder if Trump even knows how to serve food in a line? Maybe he had KP at military school or something, but that was a long time ago and his memory is not so good.

I think you hit on why he is not visiting any military in person this year: he was forced to do KP at military school and the event so traumatized him that the sight of a serving spoon makes him break out in hives…

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:56:26am

LOL

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:57:14am

H - 3 minutes. I am taking up my station behind the mashed potatoes and fried okra (they apparently don’t trust me around the ham, let alone the desserts), so I’ll be busy for a while. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:57:49am

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder if Trump even knows how to serve food in a line? Maybe he had KP at military school or something, but that was a long time ago and his memory is not so good.

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Obama works at the Food Depository. Bill Clinton serves food at a homeless shelter. And sure as clockwork Fox News shits on both of them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:58:33am

re: #291 Joe Bacon 🌹

Obama works at the Food Depository. Bill Clinton serves food at a homeless shelter. And sure as clockwork Fox News shits on both of them.

They know their audience.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:00:05am

What?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:01:22am

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

What?

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Yet you act like every undocumented person is guilty when someone is murdered by someone undocumented. You’re a miserable fool.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:02:00am

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

DT has a bit too much to drink. Oh wait. He is always like that.

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nines09  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:02:05am
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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:05:40am

re: #290 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

H - 3 minutes. I am taking up my station behind the mashed potatoes and fried okra (they apparently don’t trust me around the ham, let alone the desserts), so I’ll be busy for a while. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

had fried okra yesterday, with bbq ribs, chicken and brisket

today it’s lemon roasted brussels sprouts and green beans
oh yeah and garlic potatoes, mashed parsnips, i think there might be a turkey too

punkin pie and pecan pie

we better get over there!

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TedStriker  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:13:21am

re: #297 dangerman

had fried okra yesterday, with bbq ribs, chicken and brisket

today it’s lemon roasted brussels sprouts and green beans
oh yeah and garlic potatoes, mashed parsnips, i think there might be a turkey too

punkin pie and pecan pie

we better get over there!

To the Batmobile!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:17:06am

Turkey in the oven.
Green beans and asparagus marinating in olive oil and herbes de Provence, awaiting roasting later while the turkey rests.
Brussels sprouts simmered in chicken broth.
Homemade cranberry sauce with mandarin oranges.
Stuffing/dressing made from scratch with cubed homemade sourdough baguettes leftover from last week.
Giblet gravy.
New sourdough baguettes rising.
Dessert is a selection of sorbets and gelatos.

should be ready in about an hour, come on over!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:17:50am

What a pathetic fucking wraith.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:18:36am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

That sounds great. Happy Thanksgiving. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:19:10am
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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:20:02am

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder if Trump even knows how to serve food in a line? Maybe he had KP at military school or something, but that was a long time ago and his memory is not so good.

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he’s probably waiting till he’s an ex-president
then he’ll work a food like cause that’s how it seems to be done

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:26:34am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:27:27am

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dangerman  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:38:55am

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:40:10am
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austin_blue  Nov 22, 2018 • 12:38:55pm

re: #268 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was in the third grade. Around 1PM the second grade teacher came in to tell us Kennedy had been shot at.

Couple minutes later the principal came in and told us to go home that he had been murdered.

We were in shock. We left school, the custodian set the flag at half mast. He was crying.

Walking home, loud music coming from the house of the Republican committeeman.

He was celebrating.

Saw Jackie walking off the plane wearing her blood stained dress and I’m glad it was a black and white set we had because it toned the blood stains down.

Went to bed and had bad dreams of nuclear retaliation.

I remember watching TV Oswald coming out of the police station. Mom was on the phone saying she hoped he was put in the electric chair for what he did.

I saw Oswald get shot and Mom screamed in the phone that justice had been done.

World never was the same.

I was seven, second grade, Catholic school in Havelock, N.C. The nuns were keening. Eerie as hell. Got out early. Mom picked us up, in shock. My Dad is crying to Barber’s Adagio for Strings. Still can’t sit through that piece without weeping.


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