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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:04:26pm

Carried over from the last thread, Kurt Eichenwald on the discrimination those with epilepsy face in 2018. (Loophole in the ACA: All you have to do is claim “undue burden” and you can kick out epileptics from your university or business - including customers of businesses.)

statnews.com

He is responding to Notre Dame kicking out a student for having epilepsy about three weeks ago, claiming undue burden by not allowing him a single dorm room. The university claims the dorm experience with more than one person is vital to the educational experience of the university.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:07:14pm

The American Family Association and Liberty Council have come out with their list of businesses Christians should boycott, because they aren’t sufficiently Christian (for example, saying Happy Holidays or having unisex bathrooms).

(10:06, Utah Outcasts, NSFW for coarse language)

Christian Groups Put Stores on “Naughty List”

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mmmirele  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:21:27pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

The American Family Association and Liberty Council have come out with their list of businesses Christians should boycott, because they aren’t sufficiently Christian (for example, saying Happy Holidays or having unisex bathrooms).

(10:06, Utah Outcasts, NSFW for coarse language)

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Video

*drily* I’d be much more worried about being molested in a church than in a Target restroom. Much more worried.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:24:57pm

Fuck you, dick wad.

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Targetpractice  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:31:30pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

The American Family Association and Liberty Council have come out with their list of businesses Christians should boycott, because they aren’t sufficiently Christian (for example, saying Happy Holidays or having unisex bathrooms).

(10:06, Utah Outcasts, NSFW for coarse language)

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Who you let in the bathrooms and how much you say “Christmas,” criteria that make sense only to people who think Christmas is just another excuse in the year to browbeat non-believers.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:38:00pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:48:33pm

re: #6 Single-handed sailor

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Yeah, but let us take a moment to be thankful for Trump’s sacrifice…of taking time away from his golf game to make a “Racist Uncle” teleconference call.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:57:54pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 10:58:09pm

Could this explain Donald Trump’s apparent fear of rain?

From 1961 to the debut of Superstar Ken in 1977, Ken had straight, nonbendable arms and a head that could only turn left and right. Ken’s hair was made of felt in his first year (known to collectors as the “flocked” hair Ken), but this was replaced with a plastic, molded hairstyle when the felt hair was found to fall off when wet.

Ken (doll) - Wikipedia (on the history of Mattel’s Ken doll).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:00:29pm

Not sure how to get rid of these mutants, but it would appear that starving them to death is not an option (Well, maybe the meth-head at the upper left).

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TedStriker  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:01:50pm

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Not sure how to get rid of these mutants, but it would appear that starving them to death is not an option (Well, maybe the meth-head at the upper left).

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:05:36pm

re: #4 Single-handed sailor

Fuck you, dick wad.

People keep commenting that asylum claims are legal if you make them at border crossings, which is wrong. They are legal anywhere in the USA and anywhere across the border.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:23:24pm

What’s taking so long to complete the count for the California 21st Congressional District? It appears that the race is still undecided. On election night the incumbent Republican was ahead by 8%; the lead is now .4%.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:25:32pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

What’s taking so long to complete the count for the California 21st Congressional District? It appears that the race is still undecided. On election night the incumbent Republican was ahead by 8%; the lead is now .4%.

The New York Times called the election for Rep. David Valadao (R) with 100% of the precincts reporting.

nytimes.com

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:26:11pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

What’s taking so long to complete the count for the California 21st Congressional District? It appears that the race is still undecided. On election night the incumbent Republican was ahead by 8%; the lead is now .4%.

Deadline for certification isn’t until December 7th and the counting was probably suspended on Wednesday through Monday for the holiday weekend. California is just really deliberate and slow about this shit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:29:43pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Deadline for certification isn’t until December 7th and the county was probably suspended on Wednesday through Monday for the holiday weekend. California is just slow about this shit.

Something something millions of people in California …

The canvassing board has yet to meet to consider provisional and late mail and absentee ballots which might have met the deadline for the election.

vote.sos.ca.gov

Currently the state has

TJ Cox
(Party Preference: DEM)
54,266
49.8%
* David G. Valadao
(Party Preference: REP)
54,713
50.2%

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:35:33pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹

The New York Times called the election for Rep. David Valadao (R) with 100% of the precincts reporting.

nytimes.com

The California Secretary of State lists different numbers and a partial count.

100.0% ( 520 of 520 ) precincts partially reporting as of November 21, 2018, 6:09 p.m.

TJ Cox
(Party Preference: DEM)
54,266
49.8%
David G. Valadao
(Party Preference: REP)
54,713
50.2%

The NYT might have had some decent reason to think Valadao is going to win, called it early and stuck with that call, but their numbers absolutely are not up to date.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:37:55pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

The “partial” designation may come from the outstanding absentee, mail, and provisional ballots yet to be considered, but I don’t know why California gives that designation (I’m just guessing).

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:41:58pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

Something something millions of people in California …

The canvassing board has yet to meet to consider provisional and late mail and absentee ballots which might have met the deadline for the election.

vote.sos.ca.gov

Currently the state has

TJ Cox
(Party Preference: DEM)
54,266
49.8%
* David G. Valadao
(Party Preference: REP)
54,713
50.2%

A big part of the reason much of the media missed the blue wave call on election night is that they neglected to account for how California ballots come in late and break for Democrats. This is why they didn’t predict Katie Hill, Katie Porter, Gil Cisneros, Harley Rouda, etc flipping GOP seats even though given the election night tallies any decent observer of past CA elections would have predicted all those wins as confidently as the sunrise.

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boredtechindenver  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:42:28pm

re: #124 MsJ

I dry brined it. Both the white and dark meat were unbelievably moist. Hubby and Mom loved it. I thought it was ok because I don’t really like turkey. 😂 But hey, it’s Thanksgiving, so it’s almost a law.

The sausage stuffing was pretty good. Hubby didn’t love it, tho.

The gravy was tasty but a little too thin. I added some chopped up giblets to it. Needed more roux.

When everyone wakes up, it’s cheesecake.

I want cheesecake.

Did I mention there’s cheesecake? 😁

It is a late reply from me for both Jeff and MsJ.

I had the store spatchcock the turkey then I used the herb butter recipe from Serious Eats and put it under the skin on both breasts and thighs, then all over the top of the whole turkey. I sliced butternut and acorn squash into 1 inch thick rings and placed them on a full baking sheet and the cooling rack on top of the squash, quartered 2 sweet onions and put 2 quarters under each breast and thigh. The turkey was done in just under an hour, so I left it in the oven and turned off the heat and let it cool (the temp on each breast and thigh actually rose to over 170 and I was afraid that it would dry out, but the herb butter rub kept the whole thing moist.

I was more proud of the gluten-free, vegan pumpkin pie with no dairy, nut, egg or gluten, with a rice chex crust because I had a vegan guest and a lactose intolerant guest, and I can’t eat gluten. I cut down on the sugar by using agave nector instead of brown sugar, and lowered the amount of maple syrup. The recipe calls for corn starch as a thickener instead of making a pumpkin custard with eggs, so it doesn’t set as well, but it is very close.

Pumpkin filling recipe and rice chex crust recipe. I used a half and half chocolate rice chex and cinnamon rice chex, but I think adding the honey nut rice chex will make it closer to graham cracker crust. I didn’t know if my nut allergic cousin would be coming over and wanted to make sure he could have some too.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:45:15pm

re: #20 boredtechindenver

I had the store spatchcock the turkey …

It’s a banner year for spatchcocking!

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freetoken  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:49:08pm

The madness of computers…

My Mac started to act up, finally wouldn’t restart. After lots of fiddling with an old OS DVD to get to Disk Utilities, discovered one of the volumes on the physical drive that also hosts the system startup volume had unrecoverable errors.

12 hours later of rebooting.. rebooting… and finally getting the Recovery software to work, I’m back online.

These devices drive me crazy.

Now my logitech trackball isn’t recognized by the computer… sigh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 22, 2018 • 11:56:18pm

Happy Thanksgiving …

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 12:10:03am

While Cdr. Bonespurs was making his call to military members about him, eighteen fell in combat on Thanksgiving Day.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 12:39:33am

According to the Rapture Ready Index (something like the Union of Concerned Scientists clock, but for wingnuts), the risk of the Rapture occurring is down one point from the last update.

They have a number of metrics to arrive at their score (False Christs, Debt and Trade, Liberalism, Globalism, Civil Rights [yes they view advancing civil rights as a bad thing], &c).

raptureready.com (current score 180)

100 and Below: Slow prophetic activity 100 to 130: Moderate prophetic activity 130 to 160: Heavy prophetic activity Above 160: Fasten your seat belts

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Teukka  Nov 23, 2018 • 12:54:11am

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

According to the Rapture Ready Index (something like the Union of Concerned Scientists clock, but for wingnuts), the risk of the Rapture occurring is down one point from the last update.

They have a number of metrics to arrive at their score (False Christs, Debt and Trade, Liberalism, Globalism, Civil Rights [yes they view advancing civil rights as a bad thing], &c).

raptureready.com (current score 180)

Great ///

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 2:07:59am

I would like to rant about the government outsourcing computer functions because “corporations do everything better” - concerning the VA.

Rant behind the bar

I called the VA in Cheyenne two days ago to add my wife as a dependent so I could get the married rate for VA disability. They tell me they cannot help me with the form, and I must log in to the VA’s spiffy new corporate-run Website. (Good thing I have Internet service I guess. I don’t know what vets around here do who don’t have it.)

After creating an account, the system needs to verify I am actually the veteran who is claiming the benefits. The system is designed for the convenience of software engineers and corporate needs, not veterans.

Amongst other things, it does a credit check so it can ask questions about your distant past that you’re supposed to know the answers to.

Since I don’t know those answers because it asks questions about my homeless period, the credit check system gorks and tells me it cannot process my data, then the VA locks me out of the spiffy new corporate Website for thirty minutes.

A call to the twenty-four hour helpline reveals the corporation running the Website does not in fact man the phones twenty-four hours a day; I must call between 9 and 5 PST. (Good thing I don’t live in Europe.)

There is no way I can figure out how to get past this nonsense … my software engineer wife trying to help me complained that the Website is designed to discourage veterans from claiming their benefits promised by the government for their service.

Don’t ever let a conservative tell you “corporations do everything better than government” because they are lying. I have never found that to be true.

I will have to mail the application form and wait several months for processing.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 23, 2018 • 2:11:33am

Informative thread.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 23, 2018 • 3:49:29am

re: #5 Targetpractice

Who you let in the bathrooms and how much you say “Christmas,” criteria that make sense only to people who think Christmas is just another excuse in the year to browbeat non-believers.

They are losing the Culture Wars, despite having Trump and Pence as Prez and VP, this is just another desperate last-ditch defense.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 4:00:13am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are losing the Culture Wars, despite having Trump and Pence as Prez and VP, this is just another desperate last-ditch defense.

There’s always another outrage they can muster. There is never enough claimed oppression.

Remember, Christians have been endlessly harping about why they can’t erect Christmas decorations (specifically themed to their religion) on government property. They want their version of creationism taught in public schools with tax money.

Conservatives are whinging about being “censored” on social media (to the point Republicans want to have hearings in Congress on your tax money to hear about this non-existent problem, so the so-called small government party can write regulations to protect conservative voices as a protected class).

The culture wars will never end.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 4:17:03am

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

The latest outrageous outrage is Twitter bumping Laura “Loonie” Loomer off the tweetasphere.

It’s not like she has any other platform to babble on.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 4:20:21am

As a current resident of China, I welcome my fellow Americans who will soon be vassals of the Middle Kingdom.

Somehow, I do not share Trump’s confidence in his bargaining skills.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 23, 2018 • 4:32:04am

Morning all. Balmy 55 in the CenTex this morning. I’m thinkin about fishing. The Red oaks here will peak this weekend so poles, camera and a long slow troll uplake is in order.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 4:35:06am

re: #31 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The latest outrageous outrage is Twitter bumping Laura “Loonie” Loomer off the tweetasphere.

It’s not like she has any other platform to babble on.

Don’t forget Alex Jones. His empire has been literally crippled I tell you for being booted off Twitter and YouTube.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 4:36:56am

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

Don’t forget Alex Jones. His empire has been literally crippled I tell you for being booted off Twitter and YouTube.

If it were only true …

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 23, 2018 • 4:44:59am

re: #32 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump: “I’m very prepared, I’ve been preparing for it all my life. It’s not like, oh gee I’m going to sit down and study it. I know every detail. I know every stat, I know it better than anyone who’s ever known it, and my gut has always been right.”

He knows he can say shit like this and not be taken to task for it or have the interviewer tell him to his face that what he is saying is unmitigated bullshit and not an answer to a serious question of serious interest to the American people.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 23, 2018 • 4:57:40am

Thread about a Meal somewhere yesterday.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:05:06am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹

It only took me four hours to go through the VA Website to add my wife as my spouse for benefits. In that time I could have driven to Denver on a day the VA is open and submitted the paper form in person, and started on my way back.

When I finally got my claim form submitted on that Dumpster fire of a Website where I literally got lucky on randomly selecting pages to submit my form (and as usual, commercial on-line help pages are not helpful, and FAQs don’t actually answer questions).

My wife the librarian software engineer thought that was one of the most user-antagonistic sites she’s ever seen.

They gave a survey form at the end, on which you got to select comments on aspects of your “user experience” (god I hate MBA-speak) from 1 (Dumpster fire) to 10 (actual informed person wrote the item after asking those who would use it if it actually works).

No comment block to write what you ran into, so I couldn’t write about all the built-in circular programming that takes you back to pages you’ve been before and makes you start all over again. (The survey is simply scored 1-10 which means a person actually isn’t looking at it.)

This is a complaint about virtually every piece of software I have ever run across written by a corporation: It is written to optomise the software or page for the corporation and not the customer/user. They never run the page or software by an average user (beta testing does not count).

Lucky me, at least I have Internet service. Every other veteran in town would have to mail the form.

About the third hour when I was running a continuous stream of cursing and saying $200 a month isn’t worth this hassle, my wife tried to make sense of the site. (No joy for her either.)

My reward for all that headache is a confirmation number which doesn’t mean anything (I have never gotten a confirmation from any site where that number meant anything if you tried to use it to follow up), and a PDF of the completed VA Form 21-686c. The site now shows the claim as “filed.”

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MsJ  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:08:05am

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

It’s a banner year for spatchcocking!

I don’t think I’ll ever cook a bird any other way. Spatchcocking allowed the whole bird to cook properly where the breast wasn’t dry af.

If turkey only didn’t taste like turkey. To bad everything else tastes like chicken but not turkey. 😂

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:08:18am

re: #37 Dave In Austin

Thread about a Meal somewhere yesterday.

That’s quite a thread. Maybe that person can talk to some people in my town.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:18:34am

It awakes, with the usual shit on its mind.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:21:19am

re: #41 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It awakes, with the usual shit on its mind.

Liar, you said Mexico would pay for it. I say we stick to your promise; Democrats will agree to a wall if you get Mexico to pay for it, as you promised your supporters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:25:20am

My first spatchcock was in Moscow, it is a common way of grilling a whole chicken. They even have special weighted lids that you use to flatten it out in the pan.

Ah, memories, Natasha was a graduate of the Mendeleyev Institute, an elite school, with a degree in chemistry, alcoholic, chain.smoking, nymphomaniac, romantic, intellectual; right out of a spy novel. Could recite whole pages of Akhmatova and Yesenin poetry by heart.

Told me that she worked as an English interpreter for the 1980 Olympics, which brought her into contact with the Security agencies, who recruited her to gather information.

Said that they put her in a black evening dress with jewels and sent her to an Intourist hotel to talk to a group of purported international drug dealers and obtain information using all means at her disposal.

She said that she was young and rather innocent at the time, still only 19, and could not go through with her assignment and retired from the service.

Good thing, or the Cold War might have turned out differently; “Go ahead, take the blueprints, copy the diskettes, photograph everything….just let me rest for ten minutes before you pounce on me again!”

And she made a great spatchcock.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:26:37am

What still gets me is Trump acts like he has no responsibility to do anything about this, other than dictate actions like a boss. Real presidents coax and cajole Congress to enact Presidential legislation, and are prepared to give or take to get what they want, like Obama did with the ACA. Trump still tweets like Senile Old Grandpa crabbing at the TV: “Why can’t these idiots in Congress ever do anything right?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:28:23am

re: #44 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

What still gets me is Trump acts like he has no responsibility to do anything about this, other than dictate actions like a boss. Real presidents coax and cajole Congress to enact Presidential legislation, and are prepared to give or take to get what they want, like Obama did with the ACA. Trump still tweets like Senile Old Grandpa crabbing at the TV: “Why can’t these idiots in Congress ever do anything right?”

people who voted for him wanted a businessman and a non-politician

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jeffreyw  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:37:06am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:44:00am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:50:10am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹

My wife and I are off to bed. She thanks y’all for all the upfists on the photograph of the tenderloin she baked last night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:51:10am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:53:56am

re: #33 Dave In Austin

Liz Mair

@LizMair
* 48m
What a total idiot. God help Britain if we put this clown in charge of anything.

🦈Dave’s Rakin’ Now🦈
@DaveoutofAustin
You’re British? I had no idea.

6:28 AM - Nov 23, 2018 * Texas, USA

I am unfamiliar with Liz Mair but her Twitter profile would suggest that her views are not worthy of consideration. Although I detest Corbyn and think he would be a disaster as Prime Minister, I don’t really know anything about McDonnell and whether his role as Finance Minister would benefit the people of the UK. I am pretty certain it would give heart failure to the CEO of my former employer, the man who decided to relocate our company from the United States to London, and nothing would give me more pleasure than for him to suffer as a result of that decision.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 5:57:49am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:00:53am

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

I am unfamiliar with Liz Mair but her Twitter profile would suggest that her views are not worthy of consideration. Although I detest Corbyn and think he would be a disaster as Prime Minister, I don’t really know anything about McDonnell and whether his role as Finance Minister would benefit the people of the UK. I am pretty certain it would give heart failure to the CEO of my former employer, the man who decided to relocate our company from the United States to London, and nothing would give me more pleasure than for him to suffer as a result of that decision.

Liz Mair is a dual US/UK national. She is also a first-class wingnut.

en.wikipedia.org

She is the brains behind the billboard campaign in Utah during the GOP Primaries which showed Melania Trump in a mostly-nude photoshoot saying this could be your next First Lady, or you could vote for Ted Cruz.

That was the billboard campaign that caused Donald Trump to go on the attack against Heidi Cruz. Trump gets a lot of guff over his attack on Ted Cruz’s wife, but Liz Mair (on behalf of Cruz) actually started it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:03:11am

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:05:16am
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Belafon  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:09:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:11:20am
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MsJ  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:13:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:16:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:21:44am

it’s almost like setting new temperature records is a rare thing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:21:47am

re: #57 MsJ

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:23:19am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:33:36am

re: #39 MsJ

I don’t think I’ll ever cook a bird any other way. Spatchcocking allowed the whole bird to cook properly where the breast wasn’t dry af.

If turkey only didn’t taste like turkey. To bad everything else tastes like chicken but not turkey. 😂

I’ll have to talk to the folks over at the diner for the next steer roast to spatchcock a steer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:36:37am

Juanita Jean’s roundup of political cartoons for Friday. Some of these are the cartoonist’s version of eviscerating Mr. Trump.

juanitajean.com

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makeitstop  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:38:57am

I think you guys have set the LGF record for the number of uses of the word ‘spatchcock’ in one thread. :)

It’s a cold but brilliant morning here, hasn’t broken 20 degrees yet. The wife is off today, so we’re going to set up our tree so we’ll be festive for our ‘2nd Thanksgiving’ tomorrow - inviting a handful of friends over for dinner and drinks.

And I still feel full from last night. Why am I out of bed at 9:30 on a day off, anyway?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:40:30am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because no one has ever seen two women kiss before.

There will never be an end to conservative outrage. Societal changes always outrage them.

In a generation, if suddenly society changed and prohibited such things, conservatives would be outraged at that (we’ve always allowed women to kiss! How dare activist judges intervene to overturn women kissing!)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:41:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:42:07am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:44:29am

re: #64 makeitstop

I think you guys have set the LGF record for the number of uses of the word ‘spatchcock’ in one thread. :)

It’s a cold but brilliant morning here, hasn’t broken 20 degrees yet. The wife is off today, so we’re going to set up our tree so we’ll be festive for our ‘2nd Thanksgiving’ tomorrow - inviting a handful of friends over for dinner and drinks.

And I still feel full from last night. Why am I out of bed at 9:30 on a day off, anyway?

Thirty-five degrees ‘Murican here right now, with fifty-five as the scheduled high temperature. Starting tonight, snow through Sunday.

Next county north (and most of the state along with northern Kansas) is under a Winter Weather advisory. (I’m not sure why we aren’t if the NWS is predicting snow through Sunday.)

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makeitstop  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:46:52am

Stay for the ending.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:47:04am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Massively under-appreciated post.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:49:41am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ugh. I had that procedure done twice in the Navy when I was about twenty-three. A thoracentesis is when a needle is inserted between the ribs of your back to go between the pleura and lungs, so fluid can be drawn out. (Too much fluid can collapse your lungs and you suffocate.)

It is done without anaesthetic, because the physician doing the procedure wants you awake to tell him or her if the needle is pricking the lung (which is disastrous).

I wouldn’t wish that procedure on my worst enemy. I have never had anything done to me that was so awful, including removing my wisdom teeth with a mallet and chisel.

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:51:20am

re: #41 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It awakes, with the usual shit on its mind.

[Embedded content]

Err passed? Not past?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:51:50am

re: #57 MsJ

[Embedded content]

Didn’t the Nazi’s do something like that?

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:52:05am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

Liar, you said Mexico would pay for it. I say we stick to your promise; Democrats will agree to a wall if you get Mexico to pay for it, as you promised your supporters.

And you explain whose land you’re gonna build it on

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:54:07am

re: #44 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

What still gets me is Trump acts like he has no responsibility to do anything about this, other than dictate actions like a boss. Real presidents coax and cajole Congress to enact Presidential legislation, and are prepared to give or take to get what they want, like Obama did with the ACA. Trump still tweets like Senile Old Grandpa crabbing at the TV: “Why can’t these idiots in Congress ever do anything right?”

You mean work…
He doesn’t understand the dynamics of politics at all

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 6:55:05am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That eel is apparently 30 feet long

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:00:31am

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We have a fucked up history

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:00:46am

re: #74 dangerman

And you explain whose land you’re gonna build it on

Land owners along the border are still in court fighting over George W. Bush’s fencing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:02:29am
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jeffreyw  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:03:56am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Massively under-appreciated post.

Dear Mr Guccione,

May I call you Bob?

You won’t believe what happened to me in Moscow…

😍

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:05:56am
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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:09:17am

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a buffet? Not even wait service.
I’d want a refund
Prob not an open bar either
Barbarians

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Decatur Deb  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:10:35am

re: #80 jeffreyw

Dear Mr Guccione,

May I call you Bob?

You won’t believe what happened to me in Moscow…

😍

How I Lost My Spatchcock

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:36:02am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

Liar, you said Mexico would pay for it. I say we stick to your promise; Democrats will agree to a wall if you get Mexico to pay for it, as you promised your supporters.

He didn’t just promise his supporters. He promised the taxpayers (all Americans).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:37:24am

:(

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jeffreyw  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:39:49am

Imgur

Nearly ruined the dinner by leaving the rolls in the toaster too long. Note their cunning placement.
Folks in the hippie coffee shop I go to are all, “I hate, hate, hate those green bean casseroles with the canned soup and onion rings!” Those folks are dead to me.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:40:00am

re: #82 dangerman

It’s a buffet? Not even wait service.
I’d want a refund
Prob not an open bar either
Barbarians

We always do a buffet at my sister’s. And usually no alcohol except on the occasions in the past when guests brought bottles. Given everyone’s eating habits (vegetarians, vegans, gluten-free, etc), it would be a nightmare to do anything else.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:40:34am

re: #84 I Would Prefer Not To

He didn’t just promise his supporters. He promised the taxpayers (all Americans).

It was a huge part of his spiel. Those idiots that supported him will have the Dems to thank as to why their taxes won’t go up to fund his stupid wall.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:43:33am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

It was a huge part of his spiel. Those idiots that supported him will have the Dems to thank as to why their taxes won’t go up to fund his stupid wall.

Except many of his supporters would totally approve of raising taxes to pay for the wall. They may oppose spending money on health care or infrastructure but they are firmly behind this ridiculous project.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:47:18am

Good After-Thanksgiving Morning all,

I hope that everyone had the Thanksgiving day that they needed to have.
Thanks to all here who post such a variety of ideas, music, jokes, and stories. As football season for me has now ended, my lurking will turn more into posting.

Have fun, eat well, and drink till you’re merry.

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MsJ  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:48:17am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:58:13am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

I only saw a few opening minutes of the ‘parade’ and as soon as I saw those two women kissing I knew there would be outrage.

And then reading that Salon article above about Ohio’s push for draconian abortion laws all I can think of is this country is going to come to an outright standoff between the fundamentalists and the rest of this country.

And some wonder if it would be good to run a woman as president.

It my be absolutely necessary.

And Fuck John Kasich.

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 7:58:21am

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

We always do a buffet at my sister’s. And usually no alcohol except on the occasions in the past when guests brought bottles. Given everyone’s eating habits (vegetarians, vegans, gluten-free, etc), it would be a nightmare to do anything else.

hey, im fine with what real people do

we’re talking mar-a-grift-o here
these folks not only pay big money to be members, probably separate for the dinner, they brag that they are ‘it’, they’ve arrived
of course im sure trump himself didnt get up and stand in line…..
but the rest of em?

i mean was it a money thing? they couldnt afford waiters?
couldnt get enough visas fast enough?
inquiring minds…(ok well, one anyway)

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:00:28am

re: #89 Hecuba’s daughter

Except many of his supporters would totally approve of raising taxes to pay for the wall. They may oppose spending money on health care or infrastructure but they are firmly behind this ridiculous project.

im fine with that

- you dont want to pay premiums for abortion or birth control services you’ll never use
- i dont want to pay for a wall i’ll never use

and ps - im not scared of the people on the other side of it

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:03:13am

re: #90 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Good After-Thanksgiving Morning all,

I hope that everyone had the Thanksgiving day that they needed to have.
Thanks to all here who post such a variety of ideas, music, jokes, and stories. As football season for me has now ended, my lurking will turn more into posting.

Have fun, eat well, and drink till you’re merry.

i knew a guy who wanted to eat, drink, and be Mary
and he did

‘Mary’ didnt stick. Tatiana did.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:06:20am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:11:52am

re: #89 Hecuba’s daughter

Except many of his supporters would totally approve of raising taxes to pay for the wall. They may oppose spending money on health care or infrastructure but they are firmly behind this ridiculous project.

Would they? Because the whole con was that Mexico would pay for it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:15:19am

re: #96 Charmingly Persistent

If those who voted for Jill had voted for Hillary, Hillary would be president today. Clearly these voters had no problem voting for a woman. Of course, no matter who the Democrats select, the RW noise machine will demonize them, but at least there won’t be a 30-year history of attacks.

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:17:45am

re: #96 Charmingly Persistent

The Nation isn’t ready for a woman President yet.”

The Nation wasn’t ready to end slavery.
The Nation wasn’t ready for women to vote.
The Nation wasn’t ready to Kill Jim Crow.
The Nation wasn’t ready for a black President.

The Nation is never ready.
We MAKE it ready.

77-100k votes and we’re not even talking like this any more

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stpaulbear  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:18:17am

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bob Cesca

@bobcesca_go
Looks like an absolute blast. Biff and Melania need to slow down before they party themselves silly.

That photo screams “forced family time”.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:18:34am

I think the whole con of Mexico will pay for the Wall was what sold them. They really thought he’d bully Mexico into paying for it. They may say they’d be willing to pay more taxes for it but if their bottom line started hurting, they wouldn’t like it. Now they probably wouldn’t blame Trump because Trump can do no wrong to his base.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:18:47am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

They assume the kiss was sexual in some way, which says more about where their heads are than anything else. Same people probably queue up some lesbian porn once they get home and have some privacy.

I swear, these people get offended by the mildest of things. They’re the epitome of making mountains out of molehills.

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:22:18am

re: #98 Hecuba’s daughter

If those who voted for Jill had voted for Hillary, Hillary would be president today. Clearly these voters had no problem voting for a woman. Of course, no matter who the Democrats select, the RW noise machine will demonize them, but at least there won’t be a 30-year history of attacks.

or in short, half the voters did in fact vote for a woman for president

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Decatur Deb  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:26:37am

re: #103 dangerman

or in short, half the voters did in fact vote for a woman for president

And a whole field hockey team of woman HoR representatives.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:28:42am

I saw First Man. It is indeed excellent. It should be nominated for some kinda Oscar.

Now I have to read the book.

Incidentally, there is a bronze of Neil Armstrong on the campus of Purdue University. I had to stand in front of it for a few minutes to reflect how an fairly unassuming, ordinary guy ended up being an international hero, because he stepped up and did his fucking job.

Imagine if some people in the GOP could find the wherewithal to emulate him.

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Skip Intro  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:29:24am

Well I’ve been banned from Facebook for a while for being bad so I’ll start posting this shit here again.

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MsJ  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:30:30am

re: #106 Skip Intro

Well I’ve been banned from Facebook for a while for being bad so I’ll start posting this shit here again.

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Facebook did you a favor. They’re fucking evil. Absolutely evil.

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451_Montag  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:33:15am

Did somebody say spatchcock?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:33:58am

re: #106 Skip Intro

Well I’ve been banned from Facebook for a while for being bad so I’ll start posting this shit here again.

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That wasn’t the post that got you banned, was it? If so, what is wrong with Facebook?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:34:03am

re: #105 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Also, this movie really does a good job depicting the reality of sitting in a tiny capsule several hundred feet above the ground on top of a few tons of explosives. The scene of Armstrong and Scott sitting inside the Gemini 8 capsule, listening to the creaks and groans it made on the launch pad, really brought home the bleeding-edge aspect of early spaceflight. It’s something I never appreciated as a kid at the time.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:38:14am
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jaunte  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:39:15am
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jaunte  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:39:40am
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Skip Intro  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:40:29am

re: #109 Hecuba’s daughter

No, it was this one.

“How nice. Steve King has given the Trumps a box of Christmas ornaments from his collection.”

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Skip Intro  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:42:19am

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:43:55am

re: #112 jaunte

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Nationalism wasn’t new in the 20’s you stupid fuck. Stop trying to deny the Nazis were right wing because you can’t stand to be honest about the right wing and Nazism because you’re a stupid hack.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:45:10am

re: #113 jaunte

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:45:27am

re: #108 451_Montag

Did somebody say spatchcock?

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Funny story from dinner last night: my 5 year old grand niece asked her vegan uncle why he doesn’t eat meat. He explained that he didn’t want to be cruel to animals. She is puzzled because she believed that the animals died a natural death. Several adults at the table managed a diversion before she had the opportunity to learn how these animals actually perish.

Let’s see what happens when she finally discovers the truth. That was the journey her uncle took about 20 years ago when he realized that McDonald’s hamburgers came from the cattle at ranches. Her mother is a vegetarian so she may find a hospitable reaction at home if she takes that step.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:46:09am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:50:39am

Nazism I will concede isn’t purely capitalist in economics but neither is Trumpism and Dinesh loves Trumpism. Dinesh’s conservatives in the 20’s and even into the 30’s supported Nazism against the left.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:51:54am

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:52:22am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

I think he’s just tossing things out there now to see how many people will write his name.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:53:51am

re: #122 jaunte

I think he’s just tossing things out there now to see how many people will write his name.

True. I’m just sick of this shit by conservatives who can’t admit that their ideology has more in common with a Nazism than ours.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:53:53am

Cheer up. We aren’t dead yet and we still have things like In Otter News:

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:54:07am

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

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turned on it’s head:

you can buy this gun at walmart
you cant buy this lettuce

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:55:05am

off to pick up the goodies for a key lime pie to be topped with chantilly cream

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lizardofid  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:56:40am

re: #119 Decatur Deb

NASA Spatchcock Multiaxis Simulator

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Video

Multi Axis Huli Huli

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 23, 2018 • 8:58:20am

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Cheer up. We aren’t dead yet and we still have things like In Otter News:

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:06:40am

Meanwhile, in my neck of the woods, terrorists on Pakistan are not happy about China’s trade and development deals with Pakistan. A bombing attempt at the Chinese consulate in Karachi was foiled today by security police. Two Pakistani officers were killed as well as the would-be suicide bombers.

An explosive-laden vehicle was driven outside the Chinese consulate and in an exchange of fire two policemen guarding the building and all three assailants were killed, Amir Shaikh, a senior police official, told reporters in Karachi. Two civilians collecting visas also died. Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi later told lawmakers in Islamabad that a suicide bomber had detonated explosives while trying to enter the building.

The raid will come as a shock to China and Pakistan’s armed forces, which have beefed up security across the South Asian nation after a number of military operations targeting terrorist groups since 2013. Pakistan’s army has also raised a 15,000 strong force to protect the Chinese projects and has curtailed the movement of workers at those sites who aren’t allowed outside without an armed escort.

bloomberg.com

China and Pakistan made a major development deal, which essentially gives China a free port on the Indian Ocean and Pakistan supposedly the infrastructure to support it. Pakistanis, and not just extremists, say the deal will end up costing Pakistan a ton of money and its sovereignty.

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MsJ  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:07:06am

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Cheer up. We aren’t dead yet and we still have things like In Otter News:

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I’ll see your accident and raise you an on-purpose.

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Skip Intro  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:08:38am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:14:11am

Gonna see if this posts properly….

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:15:01am

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TedStriker  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:15:12am

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

Gonna see if this posts properly….

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Looks good to me…little doggeh getting dripped on the head.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:16:03am

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

Looks good to me!

This was Dory’s first experience with rain. She was fascinated with the big drops falling off the gazebo canopy.

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ObserverArt  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:19:25am

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

Looks good to me!

This was Dory’s first experience with rain. She was fascinated with the big drops falling off the gazebo canopy.

Has the rain help put an end to the fires?

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CarolJ  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:21:56am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:22:25am

re: #136 ObserverArt

Has the rain help put an end to the fires?

I assume so, but between that and the wind coming out of a different quarter, the air cleared up all the way back to green!

Every year I’m amazed how much a little rain does for the lawn we struggle to keep alive with the sprinklers. Just a couple days of the free stuff falling from the sky and the brown patches outside the throw of the sprinklers are reviving a bit.

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MsJ  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:22:46am

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

So adorable!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Skip Intro  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:24:16am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:25:49am

Normally, I only make pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving, but this year it coincided with The Younger Boy’s birthday. Guess what he asked for, in lieu of a cake….

Peckinpah and punkinpah
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:32:54am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

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ObserverArt  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:36:16am

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

Looks good to me!

This was Dory’s first experience with rain. She was fascinated with the big drops falling off the gazebo canopy.

Dory has a fun tail…interesting how it seems to make a 90° bend at that tuft of hair mid-tail and then runs parallel to her body pointing at her head.

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Dizzy  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:41:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:48:22am

The stock market is tanking, and Trump can’t find anyone but himself to blame.

Fox Business holiday guest-host Charles Payne flipped out when David Stockman, Reagan’s former budget director, told him that U.S.economic foundation was not stable because Trump was acting like “a madman.”

Payne was so upset by this, he countered by saying China may be getting ready to go to war with America.

Really. He said that.

What I loved about Stockman’s appearance was he didn’t waste time and got right up into the insanity of Trump’s economic behavior.

This caused Payne to sound nuttier than your Thanksgiving fruitcake.

the rest is predictably insane.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:49:59am

re: #143 ObserverArt

Dory has a fun tail…interesting how it seems to make a 90° bend at that tuft of hair mid-tail and then runs parallel to her body pointing at her head.

Funny thing is, just at the point where it seems to bend, there’s a ring of darker fur. And the serious feathering on her tail starts there, too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:50:53am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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the rest is predictably insane.

Can’t wait to hear how the guy who implemented Trickle Down economics isn’t a real conservative but Mr. Grab em by the Pussy is.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:53:42am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why in the world did they invite David Stockman? He isn’t exactly a Trump fan. Is it because in the 1980’s he promoted the fake “supply-side” economic theory which I believe he subsequently abandoned?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:55:38am

re: #144 Dizzy

She says that the badguys are going to get “Loomered”? Wow. I don’t think that Trump uses “Trumped” very often, and he, at least has some level of accomplishment to back him up (granted, its all mob money and spambots from St Petersburg), the only thing she’s done in her life is get a .jpg of a blown out tire.

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Skip Intro  Nov 23, 2018 • 9:58:05am

re: #144 Dizzy

She’s found her natural home.

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can't think of a decent username  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:00:45am

re: #149 Sufficient unto the day…

She says that the badguys are going to get “Loomered”? Wow. I don’t think that Trump uses “Trumped” very often, and he, at least has some level of accomplishment to back him up (granted, its all mob money and spambots from St Petersburg), the only thing she’s done in her life is get a .jpg of a blown out tire.

The only thing I ever remember her for is the hilarious video of her trying to pick up a guy because he looks very Aryan, while everyone else at the party tolls their eyes at her.

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ObserverArt  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:02:20am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Can’t wait to hear how the guy who implemented Trickle Down economics isn’t a real conservative but Mr. Grab em by the Pussy is.

They never want to hear from Stockman.

He really is persona non grata in conservative circles because back in the late 2000s he started to talk about how trickle down was a complete sham and that we ruined the economy by throwing the tax structure out of whack and increased deficits through his own theories.

So the guy they used to sell it, went back on it and called it bad economics and they no longer listen to what he says.

It is a pure example of how the conservatives argue from some ridiculous point and when facts show it is bad, they ignore the facts and fight on ignorant emotions.

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Dizzy  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:03:08am

re: #150 Skip Intro

She’s found her natural home.

I wonder if the antisemitism and vitriol directed at her will give her pause.
Ahhhhhhhh………. no I don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:03:10am

re: #152 ObserverArt

They never want to hear from Stockman.

He really is persona non grata in conservative circles because back in the late 2000s he started to talk about how trickle down was a complete sham and that we ruined the economy by throwing the tax structure out of whack and increased deficits through his own theories.

So the guy they used to sell it, went back on it and called it bad economics and they no longer listen to what he says.

It is a pure example of how the conservatives argue from some ridiculous point and when facts show it is bad, they ignore the facts and fight on ignorant emotions.

Ahhhh that’s right. I had forgotten that he had called TDE for the load of horse shit it is.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:07:14am

Post Turkey Day clean crew

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:15:07am

re: #153 Dizzy

I wonder if the antisemitism and vitriol directed at her will give her pause.
Ahhhhhhhh………. no I don’t.

Female version of Stephen Miller.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:15:54am

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

Female version of Stephen Miller.

Has she got the creepy dead eyes, too?

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:17:49am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:20:28am

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

Has she got the creepy dead eyes, too?

She does look as though she is missing a soul. Her makeup disguises her creepy eyes. She has a “perfect smokey eye”, to borrow a phrase.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:20:33am

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

Has she got the creepy dead eyes, too?

She’s as brain dead as Miller.

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Jay C  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:21:25am

re: #158 jaunte

So has Mueller’s team finally found some loophole in the Federal Code that makes “rodent copulation” an indictable offense??

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:22:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:23:39am
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A Mom Anon  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:40:00am

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

Nah, just the same old dead soul.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:40:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:43:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:45:31am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:48:49am

This thread has what we all need right now.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:53:13am

re: #108 451_Montag

No. I clearly said “ScotchPatch”!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:54:54am

This guy

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:57:56am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 10:59:11am

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah? And I don’t think most Democratic voters thought that Paul Ryan should have. Who gives a shit what Republicans want for the Speaker?

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Jay C  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:03:58am

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

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Pretty stupid poll, but I’m wondering who those “11%” are? Or the 28% undecided??

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:04:58am

Why must the media constantly kiss the GOPs ass??

I do. Not. Get it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:05:53am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

Why must the media constantly kiss the GOPs ass??

I do. Not. Get it.

Because they feel the need to oblige “Middle America” okay the only “Real America.”

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Interesting Times  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:06:01am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

Why must the media constantly kiss the GOPs ass??

I do. Not. Get it.

Most of the execs in charge of said media are Les-Moonves-style sociopaths.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:08:46am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

True, but we don’t like Ryan for speaker for entirely different reason(s).

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ObserverArt  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:09:27am

Oh those poor Republican voters.

I tell ya’, I can’t see, hear, or read enough about how they are concerned about this and that and whatever.

So put upon by the laws of this country and things like democratic governing procedures, democratic voting, democratic representation and really our whole system of government.

Whatever will we do with their concerns? If they don’t get their way they gotta talk about it and they must be heard.

Ignore them, I say. Let’s make ‘em real scared and take back the Senate and the Presidency.

Give ‘em something to really complain about. Then we can ignore them then too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:13:07am

re: #176 Interesting Times

Most of the execs in charge of said media are Les-Moonves-style sociopaths.

I wonder too if it has to do with Conservatives being larger consumers of news media.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:13:17am

re: #177 Sufficient unto the day…

True, but we don’t like Ryan for speaker for entirely different reason(s).

True, true. I guess the point is. Yeah of course Republican voters are oging to oppose Pelosi for Speaker. They’ll oppose any Dem for Speaker just as we’d oppose any Republican.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:16:32am
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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:16:35am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder too if it has to do with Conservatives being larger consumers of news media.

Eyeballs and clicks
Nothing more complicated

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:17:50am

Like Nixon, presidential historians are going to spend the next 50 years writing up Trump’s crimes.

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Belafon  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:21:47am

Thread:

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Interesting Times  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:23:51am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder too if it has to do with Conservatives being larger consumers of news media.

Fox and AM radio, certainly. But MSNBC’s flagship programs are Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell, both of whom were threatened by the exec in charge (Andy Lack - appropriate last name if there ever was one). Lack is also the same upwardly-failing nitwit responsible for the Meghan Kelly fiasco. He’s a wingnut who wants to skew MSNBC/NBC in that direction, and actual ratings are the only thing stopping him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:25:53am

re: #181 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:26:53am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Someone’s oging to be throwing a tantrum again I reckon.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:33:46am

Climate Change Is Already Hurting U.S. Communities, Federal Report Says

Climate change is already causing more frequent and severe weather across the U.S., and the country is poised to suffer massive damage to infrastructure, ecosystems, health and the economy if global warming is allowed to continue, according to the most comprehensive federal climate report to date.

The fourth National Climate Assessment is the culmination of years of research and analysis by hundreds of top climate scientists in the country. The massive report details the many ways in which global climate change is already affecting American communities, from hurricanes to wildfires to floods to drought.

“Climate change is already affecting every part of the United States, almost every sector of the United States, be it agriculture or forestry or energy, tourism,” says George Mason University professor Andrew Light, who is one of the report’s editors. “It’s going to hurt cities, it’s going to hurt people in the countryside, and, as the world continues to warm, things are going to get worse.”

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:39:57am

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:43:02am

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

LOL

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Someone on an Irish genealogy group posted a story on how some professor at Trinity speculated some of the original inhabitants of Ireland were dark skinned and a lot of people- mostly other Americans sad to say lost their shit. The native Irish people were like “Yeah that makes sense, it doesn’t bother me.” I’m slightly less Irish than I am German and Eastern European but you know what, that didn’t change my appreciation for the culture and people there. People take the results of the DNA tests way too seriously and if it’s not what they want it to be, they take it as an attack on this identity they’ve created for themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:43:34am

re: #188 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Climate Change Is Already Hurting U.S. Communities, Federal Report Says

Hmmm one of my alma mater’s professors and we’re not a super liberal college. Never met Professor Light but given I was a humanities guy, no surprise.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:44:14am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

Why must the media constantly kiss the GOPs ass??

I do. Not. Get it.

Who owns the media?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:45:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:50:59am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Someone on an Irish genealogy group posted a story on how some professor at Trinity speculated some of the original inhabitants of Ireland were dark skinned and a lot of people- mostly other Americans sad to say lost their shit. The native Irish people were like “Yeah that makes sense, it doesn’t bother me.” I’m slightly less Irish than I am German and Eastern European but you know what, that didn’t change my appreciation for the culture and people there. People take the results of the DNA tests way too seriously and if it’s not what they want it to be, they take it as an attack on this identity they’ve created for themselves.

Black Irish is a real thing

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makeitstop  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:54:13am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Black Irish is a real thing

Notable among them, a musician that Observer Art and I were talking about the other day - Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy.

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:55:37am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Someone on an Irish genealogy group posted a story on how some professor at Trinity speculated some of the original inhabitants of Ireland were dark skinned and a lot of people- mostly other Americans sad to say lost their shit. The native Irish people were like “Yeah that makes sense, it doesn’t bother me.” I’m slightly less Irish than I am German and Eastern European but you know what, that didn’t change my appreciation for the culture and people there. People take the results of the DNA tests way too seriously and if it’s not what they want it to be, they take it as an attack on this identity they’ve created for themselves.

yup

dna is neither identity nor culture

people who react this way are fragile

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dangerman  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:56:19am

re: #192 Joe Bacon 🌹

Who owns the media?

the people who buy the advertised stuff

// .5

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2018 • 11:57:12am

re: #195 makeitstop

Notable among them, a musician that Observer Art and I were talking about the other day - Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy.

less notable: my late father and that branch of the family tree.

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ObserverArt  Nov 23, 2018 • 12:05:41pm

re: #185 Interesting Times

Fox and AM radio, certainly. But MSNBC’s flagship programs are Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell, both of whom were threatened by the exec in charge (Andy Lack - appropriate last name if there ever was one). Lack is also the same upwardly-failing nitwit responsible for the Meghan Kelly fiasco. He’s a wingnut who wants to skew MSNBC/NBC in that direction, and actual ratings are the only thing stopping him.

Do we know Lack is a wingnut?

I have never seen anything that hints at that.

What I think is he is a typical TV exec looking for the big hits. He looked at how Fox had done so much by being The Republican State News Media™ and figured he could tailor NBC and MSNBC to be middle of the road and get ‘em all. He isn’t in the biz for political purposes, He is in it for news-o-tainment money making.

I think he has learned quite a lot on the job. First he would have probably made a huge mistake taking MSNBC full conservative. Right about the time there were hints of that, Tweety, Chris, Rachel and Lawrence started coming up in the ratings.

He still tried to put in Hewitt and Van Susteren along with Wallace to be “more fair” and we saw how that went. Van Susteren bombed in very little time, Hewitt bombed too, Nicole Wallace went Never Trump and critical of her Republican friends and that actually helped her.

With his complete flub of Kelley he probably is laying low and doing everything he can to prove why they should keep him around.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2018 • 12:27:45pm

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

LOL

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‘Ey! What’sa matter for you? You thinka we believa dis DNA stuff?”
//

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retired cynic  Nov 23, 2018 • 1:31:11pm

re: #130 MsJ

I’ll see your accident and raise you an on-purpose.

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Koi. I raised koi for a while, and loved them. Someone came one night and netted all of the out and took them away. So I quit. grrrr. We must sleep pretty soundly…


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