The Bob Cesca Podcast: Playskool Tear Gas

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Playskool Tear Gas — NSFW; The great Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; We have collusion; Manafort met with Assange; Manafort lied to Mueller; Trump could pardon Manafort; Trump knew about Manafort’s lying weeks ago; Marcy Wheeler’s theory; Kushner inflated the cost of the Saudi arms deal; Papadopoulos reports for jail; Trump fires tear gas at children; Family separation and history; Trump vs Obama and Bush; Thanks to Chris Hayes; and so much more.

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270 comments

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 3:53:25pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:01:32pm

I tried reading that interview. I don’t think I’m dumb enough to understand Trump.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:02:11pm

re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White

I tried reading that interview. I don’t think I’m dumb enough to understand Trump.

You need to drink more.

/Or maybe I need to drink less?

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:02:52pm

re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White

I tried reading that interview. I don’t think I’m dumb enough to understand Trump.

It was painful.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:04:35pm

re: #3 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You need to drink more.

/Or maybe I need to drink less?

At the moment, The Younger Boy is taking a Drama class in Performance that doesn’t let out until 9:30 PM, about 12 miles away, in a place that takes 2 hours to get home from using public transit. So I go pick him up. This has limited my evening drinking 3 out of 7 nights.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:05:48pm

If Names Were Farts - Key & Peele

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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:08:21pm

re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White

I tried reading that interview. I don’t think I’m dumb enough to understand Trump.

He talks good.

We are just not at that level.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:11:50pm

That picture of Melanoma walking down the hall reminds me of this Space:1999 episode!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:12:14pm

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

At the moment, The Younger Boy is taking a Drama class in Performance that doesn’t let out until 9:30 PM, about 12 miles away, in a place that takes 2 hours to get home from using public transit. So I go pick him up. This has limited my evening drinking 3 out of 7 nights.

So. Drink less it is. Now if only my depression would get on the same page.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:17:47pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:19:37pm

re: #9 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So. Drink less it is. Now if only my depression would get on the same page.

The day before Thanksgiving, I had two daquiris before dinner (real daquiris, no an alcoholic Slushie), and I was astonished how much it lifted my mood. But I didn’t have to drive anywhere, and I had gotten The Older Boy to do most of the knife and skillet work to make haluski.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:21:13pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

The day before Thanksgiving, I had two daquiris before dinner (real daquiris, no an alcoholic Slushie), and I was astonished how much it lifted my mood. But I didn’t have to drive anywhere, and I had gotten The Older Boy to do most of the knife and skillet work to make haluski.

Mrs. Fish and I snuck a little whiskey into our Coke at Thanksgiving lunch. I don’t know if it’s because my folks are getting more pigheaded as they get older, or if we’re getting less tolerant of their intolerance as we get older.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:21:23pm

Florida police chief gets 3 years in prison for framing 3 innocent Black men

Raimundo Atesiano, the former police chief of Biscayne Park, Florida, stands convicted of directing his officers to frame innocent men in a series of unsolved burglaries. He now admits he was trying to please white community leaders, and manipulate property crimes statistics in the town of 3,000 residents.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:23:44pm

re: #12 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish and I snuck a little whiskey into our Coke at Thanksgiving lunch. I don’t know if it’s because my folks are getting more pigheaded as they get older, or if we’re getting less tolerant of their intolerance as we get older.

I think if I had to deal with intolerant people at dinner, I’d have snuck a little coke into my whiskey.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:24:59pm

Friday:

Today:

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:25:05pm

re: #10 Belafon

Is the Senate caucus significantly more conservative than the House caucus? Because I’m kind of wondering how the last three leaders in the Senate were Daschel, Reid, and now Schumer.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:25:06pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

I think if I had to deal with intolerant people at dinner, I’d have snuck a little coke into my whiskey.

I will remind you that we finished the whole bottle in 2 days flat.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:26:23pm

re: #17 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I will remind you that we finished the whole bottle in 2 days flat.

“Flat” being the operative word.

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wrenchwench  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:26:52pm

re: #13 Belafon

Florida police chief gets 3 years in prison for framing 3 innocent Black men

So often, the intention is just a little manipulation of property crimes statistics, and they end up screwing up badly with actual people’s lives.

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:27:22pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

I think if I had to deal with intolerant people at dinner, I’d have snuck a little coke into my whiskey.

I lucked out this year, there was only a little political talk and I was mostly able to keep focused on the football game at the time. It was fun listening to my mom bitch about millennials because Prop 5 failed out here, and then tell everyone she won’t buy the kids any Nike gear.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:28:24pm

Look at this dipshit. Shot at cops early this morning in a high speed chase in the southern Denver Metro area. One of his buddies is dead, the other is in the hospital with a gunshot wound.

Probably a Trump supporter judging from his shitty neck tattoo.

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:28:33pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

So often, the intention is just a little manipulation of property crimes statistics, and they end up screwing up badly with actual people’s lives.

I’m sorry, but if law enforcement frames innocent people, they should be required to serve the full sentence the wrongfully convicted person received - with no early release.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:28:33pm

re: #16 KGxvi

Is the Senate caucus significantly more conservative than the House caucus? Because I’m kind of wondering how the last three leaders in the Senate were Daschel, Reid, and now Schumer.

It’s really designed to be more conservative. They represent the whole state, while a number of House members represent very liberal districts.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:29:16pm

re: #20 KGxvi

I lucked out this year, there was only a little political talk and I was mostly able to keep focused on the football game at the time. It was fun listening to my mom bitch about millennials because Prop 5 failed out here, and then tell everyone she won’t buy the kids any Nike gear.

Oh my GOD, my folks would not SHUT UP about politics. My dad and my sister basically fed off each other, and the epic moment came when my dad stormed angrily from the room during the Macy’s parade because he saw two girls kissing on camera.

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:29:53pm

re: #23 Belafon

It’s really designed to be more conservative. They represent the whole state, while a number of House members represent very liberal districts.

I get that, but it just seems strange that even when the Dems get a leader from a big blue state, he ends up being a squish like Schumer.

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wrenchwench  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:30:12pm

re: #22 KGxvi

I’m sorry, but if law enforcement frames innocent people, they should be required to serve the full sentence the wrongfully convicted person received - with no early release.

Double, and I’m not sorry.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:30:42pm

re: #22 KGxvi

I’m sorry, but if law enforcement frames innocent people, they should be required to serve the full sentence the wrongfully convicted person received - with no early release.

“With great power comes great responsibility” isn’t just a line from a movie, and there should be consequences for failing to properly use that authority.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:31:02pm

re: #23 Belafon

It’s really designed to be more conservative. They represent the whole state, while a number of House members represent very liberal districts.

It is interesting though since GOP Senate leaders since Dole really haven’t been moderate. Lott wasn’t, Frist while not batshit insane wasn’t, and McConnell definitely isn’t. I think you’re right though but it is interesting that the Dem Senate leaders since George Mitchell have definitely in the middle of the party.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:31:55pm

re: #27 Belafon

“With great power comes great responsibility” isn’t just a line from a movie, and there should be consequences for failing to properly use that authority.

“Who watches the watchmen?”

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:32:26pm

re: #24 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh my GOD, my folks would not SHUT UP about politics. My dad and my sister basically fed off each other, and the epic moment came when my dad stormed angrily from the room during the Macy’s parade because he saw two girls kissing on camera.

I just quietly chuckled, most of the time. There was a whole stretch of “we really should just move to Texas.”

The only time I popped up was when they were talking about Amazon HQ2 and I had to point out that Amazon fucked everyone over. And even my dad chimed in that I was right “for once.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:32:59pm

re: #13 Belafon

Florida police chief gets 3 years in prison for framing 3 innocent Black men

So a minority screws over other minorities at the behest of powerful white people.

I’ve read this story before.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:34:22pm

re: #25 KGxvi

I get that, but it just seems strange that even when the Dems get a leader from a big blue state, he ends up being a squish like Schumer.

Take a look at the NY Senate. The state, in the whole, isn’t as blue as we like to think. As I’ve pointed out before, parts of NY were covered under the Voting Rights Act.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:34:34pm

re: #30 KGxvi

I just quietly chuckled, most of the time. There was a whole stretch of “we really should just move to Texas.”

The only time I popped up was when they were talking about Amazon HQ2 and I had to point out that Amazon fucked everyone over. And even my dad chimed in that I was right “for once.”

I mostly just groaned inwardly and rolled my eyes. I love my folks, and let’s be clear, in some aspects they are incredibly loving and generous people - but when they get away from the personal aspect and into the aggregate, they are shockingly blind and … fuck, I’ll say it, STUPID.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:35:21pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

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You look at our air and our water and it’s right now at a record clean

Spoken like a true mental giant

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:35:59pm

re: #32 Belafon

Take a look at the NY Senate. The state, in the whole, isn’t as blue as we like to think. As I’ve pointed out before, parts of NY were covered under the Voting Rights Act.

Same story through most of the country:

Large cities and Urban centers = Blue
Rural areas => Red

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:36:44pm

re: #34 Eventual Carrion

Spoken like a true mental giant

Which is why romaine lettuce us safe to eat, right, Donnie?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:37:43pm
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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:37:57pm

Interesting, 41 states will be represented by two senators from the same party (I’m including Vermont because Sanders is, effectively, a Democrat). Not entirely sure what that means, but I find it interesting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:38:22pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

Same story through most of the country:

Large cities and Urban centers = Blue
Rural areas => Red

Yep there are parts of very red states that are quite blue and vice versa. There’s really not too many states exclusively blue or red one way or the other which is why Senators have a more difficult time being too ideological than Reps do IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:39:20pm

re: #38 KGxvi

Interesting, 41 states will be represented by two senators from the same party (I’m including Vermont because Sanders is, effectively, a Democrat). Not entirely sure what that means, but I find it interesting.

Greater divide IMO. Used to be a lot of one each in many states. I remember when we had Warner and Chuck Robb.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:39:28pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Yep there are parts of very red states that are quite blue and vice versa. There’s really not too many states exclusively blue or red one way or the other which is why Senators have a more difficult time being too ideological than Reps do IMO.

Exactly. This is, of course, by design - the problem being that this design is starting to become problematic when hyper-partisanship comes into play, when the Senate is willing to fuck over the House just because they can and not because of any actual considerations of policy or what’s best for America.

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wrenchwench  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:41:08pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

So a minority screws over other minorities at the behest of powerful white people.

I’ve read this story before.

Back when the guy I sold my shop to was my employee, he told me he would wear a cowboy hat when he was driving, so cops would think he’s white. He would get pulled over a lot less. It was in a conversation where he told me how racist the local cops are, and that the Hispanic cops were the worst. Now he has two friends he went to high school with on the force, both Hispanic [not minorities, though, in this town]. I bet things have changed a little, at least.

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:41:53pm

re: #33 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mostly just groaned inwardly and rolled my eyes. I love my folks, and let’s be clear, in some aspects they are incredibly loving and generous people - but when they get away from the personal aspect and into the aggregate, they are shockingly blind and … fuck, I’ll say it, STUPID.

Yeah, I’m in mostly the same boat. My dad is a bit more reasonable, I think, though he really likes to blame both sides these days. My mom though, is just out of her mind on politics - according to my dad, she’ll fast forward through commercials for the Connors and always say she refuses to watch it.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:42:45pm

re: #37 Patricia Kayden

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‘It was a disaster for us’: Trump admin’s border crossing closure cost U.S. businesses $5.3 million”

Well hey, if he closes it permanently as he said he will it’ll make it easier to make plans!//

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:43:10pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:43:13pm

re: #43 KGxvi

Yeah, I’m in mostly the same boat. My dad is a bit more reasonable, I think, though he really likes to blame both sides these days. My mom though, is just out of her mind on politics - according to my dad, she’ll fast forward through commercials for the Connors and always say she refuses to watch it.

I used to hold out hope that my sister could be saved. She has moments where she agrees with me, even. But … just, some of the things she said last week, it’s clear that she has made zero progress on breaking the mental conditioning.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:44:45pm

re: #45 DodgerFan1988

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Also, Toby Larue clearly doesn’t have any concept of what ‘the bum’s rush’ means.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:45:54pm

The author of the m.dailykos.com diary that I found the tweet in calls the group that opposes her the underpants gnome brigade.

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MsJ  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:48:25pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Friday:

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I’m crying my eyes out. On one hand for the amazing turnout of strangers. And on the other wondering if he had any friends or company in life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:51:25pm

moron still harping on the mythical acid washing

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:52:15pm

re: #45 DodgerFan1988

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Tomi, I don’t want to hear you complain about big government ever if you’re going to defend shit lke that. You’re not for limited government. You’re for a thuggish government. And you are not only deplorable but extremely stupid and uninformed on immigration law just like Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:52:41pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron still harping on the mythical acid washing

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Because HRC isn’t in their investigation, dumbass. Stop fucking crying about HRC, you whiny little fuck.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:53:09pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Tomi, I don’t want to hear you complain about big government ever if you’re going to defend shit lke that. You’re not for limited government. You’re for a thuggish government. And you are not only deplorable but extremely stupid and uninformed on immigration law just like Trump.

That does seem to be exactly what they want: “That government is best which robs from the poor and gives to the rich. Because fuck Robin Hood, that womens-underwear-wearing forest faggot.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:53:20pm

re: #48 Belafon

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The author of the m.dailykos.com diary that I found the tweet in calls the group that opposes her the underpants gnome brigade.

I saw that apparently Mark Penn is behind the Dump Pelosi movement so great job supposedly pure progressives, you got duped big time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:53:44pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:54:01pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron still harping on the mythical acid washing

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I think Hillary did that to a pair of jeans that one summer….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:54:38pm

re: #53 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That does seem to be exactly what they want: “That government is best which robs from the poor and gives to the rich. Because fuck Robin Hood, that womens-underwear-wearing forest faggot.”

I think it’s why I can deal with libertarians. I think their approach to the government is wrong but at least there’s some fundamental honesty to their belief. And I don’t want to hear Tomi ever complain if she feels a cop is rude to her if she gets a driving infraction when she defends shit like that. Man she’s awful and with no decency at all but that’s not a surprise.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:55:01pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She needs to be defeated big time.

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dangerman  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:55:45pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Look at this dipshit. Shot at cops early this morning in a high speed chase in the southern Denver Metro area. One of his buddies is dead, the other is in the hospital with a gunshot wound.

Probably a Trump supporter judging from his shitty neck tattoo.

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*Not* Florida man for once

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:55:55pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

I saw that apparently Mark Penn is behind the Dump Pelosi movement so great job supposedly pure progressives, you got duped big time.

Nothing new for them. I mean, look at the BernieBros and their purity unicorn.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:56:23pm

Did y’all buy some smart speakers and internet-of-things appliances on Cyber Monday?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:58:32pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

Did y’all buy some smart speakers and internet-of-things appliances on Cyber Monday?

IoT is a great concept, but SO MANY manufacturers are just rushing into the space with no thought as to security. I can’t even begin to count the number of security vulnerabilities that have arisen because some unscrupulous vendor dumped a pile of shitty code with hard-coded passwords into a $10 device just to meet a deadline.

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dangerman  Nov 27, 2018 • 4:59:44pm

re: #37 Patricia Kayden

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‘It was a disaster for us’: Trump admin’s border crossing closure cost U.S. businesses $5.3 million ……

So much so that I’m thinking of closing the whole border!

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wrenchwench  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:02:03pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I think it’s why I can deal with libertarians. I think their approach to the government is wrong but at least there’s some fundamental honesty to their belief. And I don’t want to hear Tomi ever complain if she feels a cop is rude to her if she gets a driving infraction when she defends shit like that. Man she’s awful and with no decency at all but that’s not a surprise.

I forgave the aforementioned shop-buyer for voting for Gary Johnson for senate (against Heinrich, who won handily) when he told me he did it for this reason alone:

Former NM governor fakes heart attack at pot debate

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dangerman  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:03:35pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sen. Susan Collins told me she would support the district court nomination of Thomas Farr, saying she met with him and he alleviated her concerns, while also noting the American Bar Association’s position on him — a big boost for GOP with his nomination hanging by a thread…..

So he lied to your face and you bought it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:05:50pm

re: #65 dangerman

Sen. Susan Collins told me she would support the district court nomination of Thomas Farr, saying she met with him and he alleviated her concerns, while also noting the American Bar Association’s position on him — a big boost for GOP with his nomination hanging by a thread…..

So he lied to your face and you bought it?

it’s what she does best

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:06:59pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

I forgave the aforementioned shop-buyer for voting for Gary Johnson for senate (against Heinrich, who won handily) when he told me he did it for this reason alone:

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Haha.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:12:36pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Isn’t it the Seantor from North Carolina people should be concentrating on?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:12:49pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s what she does best

Whenever Collins says she’ll do something, I just automatically assume that she’ll “change her mind” and do the opposite. So far, it’s been working out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:13:08pm

re: #68 Belafon

Isn’t it the Seantor from North Carolina people should be concentrating on?

are you thinking of Scott from South Carolina?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:13:13pm

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:13:22pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:14:51pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

Big shocker. Collins needed to be booted out a long time ago. She’s a lesson in why you should never vote for Republicans no matter how “moderate” they claim to be.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:15:38pm

Somebody went off on me on Twitter today because I pointed out that Guardian journalist Luke Harding has some [cough] credibility issues.

“Just because he caught the NSA hacking his computer, that means nothing he writes is credible ever again? COME ON!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:16:34pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Somebody went off on me on Twitter today because I pointed out that Guardian journalist Luke Harding has some [cough] credibility issues.

“Just because he caught the NSA hacking his computer, that means nothing he writes is credible ever again? COME ON!”

Oh, it’s THAT guy? That was fucking hilarious!

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Mattand  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:17:04pm

re: #33 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mostly just groaned inwardly and rolled my eyes. I love my folks, and let’s be clear, in some aspects they are incredibly loving and generous people - but when they get away from the personal aspect and into the aggregate, they are shockingly blind and … fuck, I’ll say it, STUPID.

I miss my folks everyday, but they were not the most politically astute of people.

After complaining in 2004 of what a bad President George W. was, they announced they were still going to vote for him. Incredulous, I pointed out to them if they hired someone for a job and they did a shitty job, they’d fire that person on the spot.

This was considered for a few moments, and then my dad said basically “Sure, he’s done a bad job, but we need to give him a chance to fix it.”

I just stared, slack jawed.

I know my dad voted for Clinton in 2016. That said, I really honestly believe it was only because Trump was from New York and my dad, being a native Philadelphian, despised all things New York.

Luckily, my parents were apolitical enough that they never got infected by Fox News. My partner’s parents fell into that trap. It’s a fucking nightmare. I don’t have the patience for that shit the way she does.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:17:13pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:18:00pm

Maybe Trump will close the OTHER border with the US and I will be stuck here in Canada forever.

That would be so horrible. //////

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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:19:51pm

So, what are the betting odds on both Collins running and winning in 2020, or in her retiring and announcing it late next year?

She is acting like she can do what she wants now, so I am wondering if she is on her way out knowing getting reelected may now be difficult.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:20:16pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

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So, if I’m reading Trump correctly, we don’t need to worry about climate change, because after a few billion years the heat death of the universe will cool us all off?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:21:17pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did anyone expect Mitch’s Rubber Stamp to block a racist from becoming a Federal judge?

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:23:18pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

are you thinking of Scott from South Carolina?

That’s the person.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:24:46pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

So, if I’m reading Trump correctly, we don’t need to worry about climate change, because after a few billion years the heat death of the universe will cool us all off?

More like 10^100 years, but you get where I’m going with this….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:24:52pm

re: #82 Belafon

That’s the person.

Scott has shown that he is just like Collins. He’s just another one of Mitch’s Rubber Stamps.

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Mattand  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:26:54pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Somebody went off on me on Twitter today because I pointed out that Guardian journalist Luke Harding has some [cough] credibility issues.

“Just because he caught the NSA hacking his computer, that means nothing he writes is credible ever again? COME ON!”

Yes, because one hallmark of the NSA, one of the most clandestine info gathering outfits on the globe, is to openly taunt people they surveil by controlling their computer in front of them.

I’m always amazed that people who think like that can do things like sign their name on a document without putting themselves into the ICU for a month.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:29:59pm

re: #85 Mattand

Yes, because one hallmark of the NSA, one of the most clandestine info gathering outfits on the globe, is to openly taunt people they surveil by controlling their computer in front of them.

I’m always amazed that people who think like that can do things like sign their name on a document without putting themselves into the ICU for a month.

I for one believe him, and I’m certain it was the NSA that broker into his office late one night and spilled coke on his keyboard so the “Backspace” key stuck.
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Brian J.  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:32:29pm

Very good sign for Espy in the early going in Mississipoli. The first six precincts in DeSoto County (suburbs of Memphis) voted less than 51-49 for Hyde-Smith. Cheeto Boy won 65% of the DeSoto vote in 2016, and that was the worst vote share for a GOoPer candidate in that county since 1996.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:34:02pm
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Brian J.  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:34:53pm

By the way, whoever made the photoshop at the top of this thread deserves a round of applause and a gold star.

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bratwurst  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:35:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:35:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:37:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:45:57pm

re: #87 Brian J.

Very good sign for Espy in the early going in Mississipoli. The first six precincts in DeSoto County (suburbs of Memphis) voted less than 51-49 for Hyde-Smith. Cheeto Boy won 65% of the DeSoto vote in 2016, and that was the worst vote share for a GOoPer candidate in that county since 1996.

Fingers crossed.

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dangerman  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:50:11pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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Understanding that Trump is basically a con man is the key to understanding why he does and says this crazy shit. He’s working the rubes, and it’s probably the only thing he’s really good at. That’s also why he’s the dream president for a power-hungry GOP….

With us in the unusual position of being an active audience to the con

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:50:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:52:08pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

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Racists stick together

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:52:56pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:55:10pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Shot at cops and taken alive. Hmmmm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:57:50pm
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Brian J.  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:58:17pm

The news is not improving from the “Thank God For Us” state as Hyde-Smith now has a 9% lead. But there’s nothing in from Jackson or most of the Delta, and Hyde-Smith is still lagging most recent Republicans in most counties that are reporting.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:59:34pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Fingers crossed.

Racist surged into the lead, leading by 4 pts on CNN. Only 5% in; I hope it remains close enough to keep the GOPers sweating all night.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 5:59:56pm

re: #100 Brian J.

The news is not improving from the “Thank God For Us” state as Hyde-Smith now has a 9% lead. But there’s nothing in from Jackson or most of the Delta, and Hyde-Smith is still lagging most recent Republicans in most counties that are reporting.

Espy has a tough road ahead but hoping for a shocker.

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gocart mozart  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:01:26pm

...

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:02:50pm

WTH?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:03:16pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Espy has a tough road ahead but hoping for a shocker.

If Mississippi elects a racist white conservative over a black Democrat, I will be thoroughly unsurprised. It’s the expected result.

OTOH, if Espy wins, it’ll be the icing on the cake.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:03:33pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Espy has a tough road ahead but hoping for a shocker.

Not looking good, but maybe the white districts are coming in early.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:03:53pm

NRO:
Conservative Pundit Jesse Kelly Back on Twitter After Controversial Suspension

As usual, the astute if fake staff at DPRK provides a far more balanced and rational view than NRO.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:04:05pm

re: #104 Patricia Kayden

WTH?

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I’ll take “Drunken idiots in a boat for $1200, Alex.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:05:06pm

re: #106 Big Beautiful Door

Not looking good, but maybe the white districts are coming in early.

Sorry to tell you this but most districts in this state are white.

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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:05:31pm

Hmm. Rachel just said they (McConnell, Trump ???) may be pulling the nomination of Thomas Farr for federal judge. More to come I guess.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:06:13pm

Name of the deceased hasn’t been released pending notification of next of kin. I hope it’s no one I know, but it’s a possibility. *sigh*

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:06:24pm

re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White

It happened in Florida as well. DeSantis as racist as Hyde Smith.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:06:43pm

Hyde-Smith up by 5000. Results from Jackson not in yet.

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nines09  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:07:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:07:30pm

Yeah? I got a single digit for Hyde Smith right here…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:08:02pm

re: #107 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

NRO:
Conservative Pundit Jesse Kelly Back on Twitter After Controversial Suspension

As usual, the astute if fake staff at DPRK provides a far more balanced and rational view than NRO.

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I almost feel like asking NRO if I can write for them and then if they let me, write communist propaganda and then when I inevitably get fired cry my freedom of speech was violated. This guy’s free speech wasn’t violated I’m sorry. A private platform chose to ban him. He wasn’t jailed nor fined but booted from a platform. NRO really wastes their time on fauxrages. Just a few days ago, I saw they were whining about ohw the Coen Brothers latest project was “anti-American.” Yeah because NRO and its support of pseudo-science racial bullshit gets to determine what’s American and what ain’t.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:08:12pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

So basically, this guy lost track of where he was and ended up skiing off a cliff?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:08:18pm

I went over to Wonkette because I needed some light reading matter.

Anyway they had a lifestyle article about Melania’s Christmas Decorations.

Here is FLOTUS gazing fondly at the White House “Merry Christmas!” wreath:

Let’s look at that a little closer shall we.
OMG NO MY EYES MY EYES

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:08:35pm

re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg

Sorry to tell you this but most districts in this state are white.

Well Mississippi has the highest African-American population in the US. So if Espy gets near 100% of a large black turnout, he can win with a small % of whites. I’m not optimistic, but the largest black county isn’t reporting yet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:08:48pm

re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White

If Mississippi elects a racist white conservative over a black Democrat, I will be thoroughly unsurprised. It’s the expected result.

OTOH, if Espy wins, it’ll be the icing on the cake.

Exactly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:10:00pm

Hyde-Smith up almost 10 000 now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:10:50pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Hyde-Smith up almost 10 000 now.

Now up 12 000 with about 15% in.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:13:17pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

The way I see it, he jumped off a cliff intentionally and crashed into some trees. There’s a lot of lines in East Vail that have cliffs that go into dense forest. The grandson of the co-founder of Vail Mountain ski area died back there in 2014, he was swept away in an avalanche off a cliff into some trees, died of blunt force trauma. The accident today was not avalanche related, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:16:47pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:18:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:19:36pm

re: #125 gocart mozart

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Remember when wingnuts supported a guy who liked to fire people. Oh wait.

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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:20:30pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Manafort is one bold son of a gun. It is going to be interesting to see how that works out for him in the long run.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:22:11pm
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ipsos  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:24:35pm

If… and I emphasize this is a huge if… IF the current numbers from Hinds County (Jackson) extrapolate out, Espy will come out with a net 40,000 vote margin there.

Keep that in mind as you watch the rest of the state come in.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:25:11pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:25:29pm

Mike Espy doesn’t stand an ice cubes’ chance in hell of winning tonight. This is Mississippi we’re talking about here.

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Brian J.  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:26:06pm

re: #129 ipsos

If… and I emphasize this is a huge if… IF the current numbers from Hinds County (Jackson) extrapolate out, Espy will come out with a net 70,000 vote margin there.

Keep that in mind as you watch the rest of the state come in.

A little overhopeful, I suspect. While Espy’s 90% of the vote in Hinds County so far is amazing, the total turnout there doesn’t look like it’ll get that high.

Still mostly “no votes” gray in the Delta, which is good; Espy’s down 15,000 votes, which is not.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:26:31pm

re: #131 teleskiguy

Mike Espy doesn’t stand an ice cubes’ chance in hell of winning tonight. This is Mississippi we’re talking about here.

Didn’t we say the same about Doug Jones? I hear ya. The odds ain’t good but it’s not over.

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Targetpractice  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:26:57pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So it’s looking more and more like Manafort’s plea agreement was a ploy by Trump’s lawyers to get a man inside the Mueller investigation to provide some measure of coordination (i.e. get their answers straight). Not only is that brazen as fuck, but it assumes Mueller would never find out and use that channel to feed lies to Donny.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:27:08pm

AP now showing a 25 000 vote lead for Hyde-Smith.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:27:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:29:07pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

So it’s looking more and more like Manafort’s plea agreement was a ploy by Trump’s lawyers to get a man inside the Mueller investigation to provide some measure of coordination (i.e. get their answers straight). Not only is that brazen as fuck, but it assumes Mueller would never find out and use that channel to feed lies to Donny.

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Brian J.  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:29:34pm

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

AP now showing a 25 000 vote lead for Hyde-Smith.

Big vote gains for Hyde-Smith in Rankin County (east of Jackson) and Harrison County (Biloxi). The extreme (in both senses of the word) northeast corner of the state is also piling up votes for her.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:30:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:30:49pm

So Manafort wanted to try to O’Keefe Mueller?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:31:53pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

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Makes sense. MD has never been a purple state but that’s amazing. I can think of a few under five percent here in VA alone in my lifetime.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:33:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:34:10pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:34:18pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:34:49pm

Trent Lott.

Seems like a reasonable sort when compared with today’s Republican, say like Mitch McConnell.

Sad isn’t it?

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:34:57pm

Espy -15,000, 25% IN.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:35:46pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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Yeah people should be shot with flamethrowers for trying to gain asylum but liberals are Nazis. Undocumented immigration is a misdemeanor ffs and these people aren’t undocumented. They’re asylum seekers.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:36:24pm

re: #145 ObserverArt

Trent Lott.

Seems like a reasonable sort when compared with today’s Republican, say like Mitch McConnell.

Sad isn’t it?

That’s scary yet true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:36:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:36:51pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

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How about actually growing up?

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gocart mozart  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:36:56pm
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Brian J.  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:37:40pm

Sunflower County went from 88% Hyde-Smith to 83% Espy in this update. Segregation in Mississippi never went away.

30,000 vote lead for Hyde-Smith with 38% in. The good news is that most of the red counties are at least pretty well along and thus don’t have that much more to contribute. The bad news is that this seems likely to be enough.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:38:10pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

If only William Tecumseh Sherman had possessed flamethrowers…..

Come to think of it, Harry Turtledove wrote Guns of the South about Lee acquiring AK-47s. Might be a story there….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:38:55pm

re: #151 gocart mozart

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Uh no Jordan. They weren’t normal. You’re an asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:40:09pm

Jordan Peterson is another pseudo intellectual for people not as smart as they think they are.

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Targetpractice  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:40:10pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

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They can only whack off once a month and no porn? No wonder they’re always pissed off.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:41:11pm

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If only William Tecumseh Sherman had possessed flamethrowers…..

Come to think of it, Harry Turtledove wrote Guns of the South about Lee acquiring AK-47s. Might be a story there….

These same types insist Sherman was a war criminal but love Lee who forced captured black union men into slavery.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:41:16pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

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They think sexual frustration will get them something?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:41:18pm

re: #156 Targetpractice

They can only whack off once a month and no porn? No wonder they’re always pissed off.

Hmmmmm, wonder how Proud Boys prove they’re “following the rules”…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:41:40pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:44:33pm

re: #159 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmmmm, wonder how Proud Boys prove they’re “following the rules”…

There are some things better left unsolved.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:45:28pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:47:59pm

re: #162 teleskiguy

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But I’m sure he remains every bit as bitter as he was during little temper tantrum at the Dems he feels threatened his chance at the SCOTUS bench.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:49:02pm

re: #104 Patricia Kayden

WTH?

@KETV
Dead sea lions with gunshot wounds are washing up off Washington coast

Probably fishermen. I believe I’ve heard that sea lions enjoy raiding lobster traps

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Brian J.  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:49:18pm

50,000-vote lead for Hyde-Smith now as most of northeastern Mississippi reports huge majorities for her. I think this one’s gotten out of hand barring miracle turnout in Jackson.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:49:31pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

Social media is being mum about dude’s name, he was a prominent snowboarder in the Vail community.

I’m sick to my stomach, I very well might know the deceased.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:49:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:50:51pm

re: #162 teleskiguy

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Lovely. His life is fine. She’s still getting threats but there’s so much fame and money that comes from false rape accusations.// Poor Dr. Ford. Her life was going to be hell regardless but then Kavanaugh got confirmed to rub salt on the wound.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:55:44pm

Oh fuck…

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Brian J.  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:57:32pm

I hope this is a Valadao-level miscall, but I doubt it.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 27, 2018 • 6:58:21pm

re: #170 teleskiguy

Oh fuck…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:00:32pm

I’d be surprised if Hyde-Smith doesn’t win by 10%.
This seat was never really in play.
Espy got 40.6% of the vote on Nov. 6th. The republicans on the ballot against him combined to get 57.9%
Wicker (R), running for the other MS US Senate seat on Nov 6th, won 58.8-to-39.2

It’s freakin’ Mississippi people

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:01:05pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:02:50pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’d be surprised if Hyde-Smith doesn’t win by 10%.
This seat was never really in play.
Espy got 40.6% of the vote on Nov. 6th. The republicans on the ballot against him combined to get 57.9%
Wicker (R), running for the other MS US Senate seat on Nov 6th, won 58.8-to-39.2

It’s freakin’ Mississippi people

If Espy loses by single digits, that’s a pretty impressive performance in Mississippi.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:03:56pm

re: #171 Brian J.

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I hope this is a Valadao-level miscall, but I doubt it.

Its not. There was a blue tsunami in California that wiped out half of the GOP Congressmen there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:06:28pm

Not surprised or disappointed. I just feel bad for PoC in Mississippi knowing they have such a disgraceful racist as their Senators. Obviously thinking white people too.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:12:40pm

This snark is the most Los Angeles style snark.

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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:16:33pm

Official. Hyde-Smith is elected.

Away, away, away down south in Dixie.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:17:54pm

Bummer. Good try Espy.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:19:29pm

Actually, the truly annoying thing about her win is Trump is going to pull a border stunt every time an election comes around.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:20:05pm

re: #181 Belafon

Actually, the truly annoying thing about her win is Trump is going to pull a border stunt every time an election comes around.

He’s going to be wagging the dog a lot as we get close to November 2020.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:22:54pm

re: #171 Brian J.

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I hope this is a Valadao-level miscall, but I doubt it.

I doubt it. Hyde-Smith is leading by over 70 000 votes. Never doubt Mississippis drive to support a racist.

I knew all that shit wouldn’t hurt her down here.

If Espy were a white dude, he might have had a chance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:24:01pm

Except the Yam to be gushing about this huge victory tomorrow.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:25:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:25:31pm

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

Except the Yam to be gushing about this huge victory tomorrow.

No one gave us a chance. //

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:26:35pm

We can’t all live in Michigan, Wisconsin, or the other states that realized they shouldn’t have elected Reoublicans. Some of us live in Texas and Mississippi.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:26:51pm

I hate saying it as a Southerner and I know that other parts of the country are far from perfect with race but we do have a problem with race in the South.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:27:30pm

re: #187 Belafon

Dems down here are like the Cleveland browns. They just never have a chance.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:27:46pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

I hate saying it as a Southerner and I know that other parts of the country are far from perfect with race but we do have a problem with race in the South.

We have a problem with race in America, it’s just a higher concentration in the south.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:28:09pm

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

Dems down here are like the Cleveland browns. They just never have a chance.

And yet we keep showing up to the fight.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:28:27pm

re: #181 Belafon

Actually, the truly annoying thing about her win is Trump is going to pull a border stunt every time an election comes around.

He will shortly tweet that everyone said she was going to lose and he alone carried her to victory, and she’ll just have to grin and eat that shit sandwich.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:29:15pm

re: #190 Belafon

We have a problem with race in America, it’s just a higher concentration in the south.

Yeah I should add that it’s bigger in concentration in the South.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:29:21pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

He’s going to be wagging the dog a lot as we get close to November 2020.

If his administration hasn’t gone down in flames by then.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:29:47pm

re: #192 Big Beautiful Door

He will shortly tweet that everyone said she was going to lose and he alone carried her to victory, and she’ll just have to grin and eat that shit sandwich.

Imagine admitting it was racism just so you can distance yourself from Trump.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:30:00pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:30:03pm

re: #187 Belafon

We can’t all live in Michigan, Wisconsin, or the other states that realized they shouldn’t have elected Reoublicans. Some of us live in Texas and Mississippi.

And Kentucky.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:30:23pm

re: #194 Big Beautiful Door

If his administration hasn’t gone down in flames by then.

I think he’ll try, he just won’t understand they’re not effective.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:30:48pm

re: #191 Belafon

And yet we keep showing up to the fight.

As do the Browns, and now they are winning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:30:52pm

re: #197 Big Beautiful Door

And Kentucky.

And Nebraska.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:31:50pm

re: #199 Big Beautiful Door

As do the Browns, and now they are winning!

That’s why I keep showing up. I think Texas will flip in my lifetime.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:34:14pm

re: #197 Big Beautiful Door

And Kentucky.

Well you all have elected Dems as Governors in recent memory at least.

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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:34:22pm

re: #187 Belafon

We can’t all live in Michigan, Wisconsin, or the other states that realized they shouldn’t have elected Reoublicans. Some of us live in Texas and Mississippi.

Or Ohio.

Sigh.

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Interesting Times  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:34:23pm

Seems apropos:

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:34:42pm

“Quality of life” is a real puzzler at #6.

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:35:06pm

Someone had posted this tweet earlier:

And I thought this was a good point (the second tweet):

When people start trying to say that you can’t compare things to the Holocaust, say yes, but even the museum agrees some things are comparable.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:35:46pm

I suppose it’s a relaxing life when you completely give up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:35:55pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:36:22pm

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

Dems down here are like the Cleveland browns. They just never have a chance.

Browns now have a chance. Playing like an NFL team. Two wins in a row.

Maybe that is a sign. Not quite there yet, but rebuilding the team for a good run.

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gocart mozart  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:36:31pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:37:05pm

re: #208 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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A woke Bundy. Now I’ve seen everything.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:37:36pm

re: #206 Belafon

Someone had posted this tweet earlier:

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When people start trying to say that you can’t compare things to the Holocaust, say yes, but even the museum agrees some things are comparable.

The Holocaust wasn’t the Holocaust in 1938. It wasn’t yet a carefully planned genocide. Lindsay needs to shut up and stop being a condescending douche. So sick of the crap AOC deals with.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:38:08pm

re: #208 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Well, well.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:40:17pm

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

Dems down here are like the Cleveland browns. They just never have a chance.

Don’t know about that. They play my team (Texans) on Sunday, Texans are due to lose, and the Browns are hot since they fired that moron head coach.

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gocart mozart  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:42:00pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:42:50pm

re: #215 gocart mozart

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Hmmmm, wonder how they’re going to enforce that no cheating rule???????

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:43:10pm

Mississippi’s Burning

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:43:21pm

re: #214 Ace Rothstein

Don’t know about that. They play my team (Texans) on Sunday, Texans are due to lose, and the Browns are hot since they fired that moron head coach.

That should be a good game. DeAndre Hopkins has otherworldly talent.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:45:01pm

re: #215 gocart mozart

The ‘no fraud’ clause in (f) tends to negate the entire outfit.

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Targetpractice  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:46:35pm

re: #217 DodgerFan1988

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Mississippi’s Burning

“Hangs on.” Either poor word choice or epic trolling. You be the judge.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:48:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:51:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:51:26pm

re: #218 Big Beautiful Door

That should be a good game. DeAndre Hopkins has otherworldly talent.

I really like Watson. Just seems like a great guy with a bright future. Glad he seems to have recovered from his unfortunate injury last season. I think Cleveland’s got a bright future but they need to get the HC decision right.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:51:54pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

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Come play with us Barron, forever and forever. And no I’m not making fun of Barron.

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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:52:08pm

Oh great. Rudy is back acting like Trump’s defense lawyer again.

“The truth isn’t the truth.”

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CleverToad  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:52:12pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Look at this dipshit. Shot at cops early this morning in a high speed chase in the southern Denver Metro area. One of his buddies is dead, the other is in the hospital with a gunshot wound.

Probably a Trump supporter judging from his shitty neck tattoo.

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About a mile from my house. Okay, that’s why hubby had to jog up to the next exit twice today. Lots of cop cars, intersection was blocked for at least four hours. (Goes off to check the Denver Post for details…)

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mmmirele  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:55:40pm

re: #211 Big Beautiful Door

A woke Bundy. Now I’ve seen everything.

I know. My eyebrows are up by my hairline. There must be a catch somewhere.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:56:29pm

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmmm, wonder how they’re going to enforce that no cheating rule???????

So no cheating in addition to no beating (off)?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:56:32pm

I’m testing the new sous vide cooker on a pork tenderloin from Trader Joes. Stay tuned.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:58:26pm

re: #227 mmmirele

I know. My eyebrows are up by my hairline. There must be a catch somewhere.

I guess he’s got some self awareness which is more than you can say about a lot of right wingers.

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bratwurst  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:59:13pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 7:59:16pm

re: #226 CleverToad

(Goes off to check the Denver Post for details…)

They posted this to YouTube. Shit went down.

RAW VIDEO: Dash cam footage of early morning pursuit involving Douglas County sheriff’s deputies

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:01:17pm

re: #231 bratwurst

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Rofl. Dems in disarray.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:02:00pm

Here’s how damn backwards this state is: It’s 2018 and Hyde-Smith is now the first, FIRST female senator Mississippi has ever elected.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:02:03pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

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ObserverArt  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:03:59pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

I really like Watson. Just seems like a great guy with a bright future. Glad he seems to have recovered from his unfortunate injury last season. I think Cleveland’s got a bright future but they need to get the HC decision right.

They sure seemed to make a turn for the good once Hue was gone and Gregg Williams took over from his defense coordinator job. And Freddie Kitchens seems to know what to do with Baker Mayfield as the offensive coordinator.

They started out improved but still shaky earlier this season. The last three games with the change they have looked 100% better.

Amazing what a coach can or can’t do with a pro team. Well, that and finally they had some good drafts and signings because they have a real front office. That is a first for this franchise. It was never right after Modell made off in the night to Baltimore.

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Interesting Times  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:04:19pm

It’s like he was reading some of the comments in our thread:

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:05:48pm
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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:07:32pm

re: #230 HappyWarrior

I guess he’s got some self awareness which is more than you can say about a lot of right wingers.

I would think the Bundy argument could be made to appeal to immigrants fleeing oppression: “Look, you know what it’s like to have an overpowering government. Join our community, and we’ll be in it for each other.”

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Targetpractice  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:09:09pm

re: #231 bratwurst

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This is good news for John McCain!

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Seafaring, coquito drinking Santa!  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:10:11pm

re: #238 jaunte

Should I put the countdown until Trump discredites his own lawyers? :)

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:12:31pm

re: #228 BlueSpotinAL

So no cheating in addition to no beating (off)?

Does that mean they allowed cheating before, or it was rampant, that they had to put it in their rules?

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MsJ  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:14:12pm

re: #228 BlueSpotinAL

So no cheating in addition to no beating (off)?

That’ll last.

For about 5 minutes.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:14:24pm

Damn.

1cqbasVRnIFFXUDu8zQu2gF9pjSKF4INcYlek0/9vxGpyI1BAc8PMuZx9/bVjB6JROrtcHgfF0dfk9ZFklkeSN74PJtWjUGsDkOyALjOkPDYSFZemGeL994Qdmb1KVTy25ybMXz8byGpBtg0ofOUVgXepk3zfWr2HGolQzFGLqD57frZCaSvq/RnetdTHm5IRlZDJJOWoQWpzJSkEe6oUMrdxND9Z3fsCl8DozdSV0pDMkfhOMEYaz/4yod9DIZj0A1YkSib2Ez4Y8Te3Q6LmA==

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:14:50pm

re: #241 Seafaring, coquito drinking Santa!

“Rudy who?”

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Seafaring, coquito drinking Santa!  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:15:33pm

re: #244 teleskiguy

Damn.

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retired cynic  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:16:33pm

re: #244 teleskiguy

kWX0Z3Rjr2d4IaQRD451/TvpN4HIRbQSArx57A02rZqKoPNErTDIWGsyRWniqiYl0KKJEoyH6XKaGlGByagFZOZp2Sti+gv7ZuW8VZDmu8k=

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:19:29pm

re: #247 retired cynic

The Edge…There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others-the living-are those who pushed their control as far as they felt they could handle it, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between Now and Later. But the edge is still Out there.

― Hunter S. Thompson, Hell’s Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga

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retired cynic  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:20:44pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

Yes. That’s it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:22:42pm

re: #236 ObserverArt

They sure seemed to make a turn for the good once Hue was gone and Gregg Williams took over from his defense coordinator job. And Freddie Kitchens seems to know what to do with Baker Mayfield as the offensive coordinator.

They started out improved but still shaky earlier this season. The last three games with the change they have looked 100% better.

Amazing what a coach can or can’t do with a pro team. Well, that and finally they had some good drafts and signings because they have a real front office. That is a first for this franchise. It was never right after Modell made off in the night to Baltimore.

I’m so old, I remember when Bob Irsay made off in the night away from Baltimore.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:27:29pm

re: #239 Belafon

I would think the Bundy argument could be made to appeal to immigrants fleeing oppression: “Look, you know what it’s like to have an overpowering government. Join our community, and we’ll be in it for each other.”

I guess though it’s odd seeing these anti government types sympathize with immigrants.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:33:21pm
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Archangelus  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:52:31pm
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Belafon  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:56:39pm

re: #253 Archangelus

A conscience, or at least a cricket.
A mirror, to see her soul.
Coal.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:57:43pm

This makes much more sense than anything showing on the new Fox Streaming Service!

dailymotion.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 27, 2018 • 8:58:16pm

re: #247 retired cynic

2YdGWNWwp2C7bbkM+Z9nsXVSBsAaop8jq5SiRJ+2r8eOSTTQEINbHUNQYItruwr2

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:03:57pm

The RWNJs seem to delight in describing the caravan refugees as “hordes” (which they usually misspell as “hoards.”) This raises a question: How many hordes can you get into a bus? A standard ICE tent?

(This was inspired by something I read about the Korean War in T.R. Fehrenbach’s This Kind of War. The western press had become fixated on the Chinese “hordes,” with scarcely any action involving anything less than a horde. In fact, the Chinese operated mostly in platoon size or smaller groups, since to do otherwise was to invite instant destruction by UN aircraft and artillery. This led cynical GIs to quip, “Hey, Sarge, how many hordes in a Chinese platoon?”)

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:08:38pm

Well, there’s the “perjury trap.”

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:09:02pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I guess though it’s odd seeing these anti government types sympathize with immigrants.

I don’t know what the Bundys ideology is (other than greed), but there is a strand of libertarianism that believes in open borders. There’s a belief that labor and capital should be able to freely move across borders.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:14:14pm

The Washington Post (in its opinion column) is now reporting on Marcy Wheeler’s consideration of Robert Mueller asking for sentencing of Paul Manafort and what it might mean, adding some of their own information.

It looks like a big day for collusion. No wonder Trump is raging. (Paul Waldman at WP, with video):

This is obviously bad news for Manafort, because without his plea agreement he could spend many more years in jail. But it could also be bad news for President Trump.

This is where, I must stress, things get speculative. But before we get to the speculation, there are some important pieces of context. First, it’s unlikely that Mueller would be withdrawing Manafort’s plea agreement unless he had specific evidence demonstrating that Manafort lied. He’s going to lay that evidence out for the court as the judge considers what sentence to give Manafort, in what amounts to another indictment.

Second, Trump’s lawyers and Manafort’s lawyers have a joint defense agreement that allows them to share information. And third, Trump recently completed a set of written answers to Mueller’s questions.

(Washington Post article links to yesterday’s emptywheel article)

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KGxvi  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:16:34pm

Well, as expected, Epsy lost, but the difference this time was only 8%. In 2014, it was over 20%. In Mississippi. That’s sort of crazy

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gwangung  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:16:59pm

re: #257 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The RWNJs seem to delight in describing the caravan refugees as “hordes” (which they usually misspell as “hoards.”) This raises a question: How many hordes can you get into a bus? A standard ICE tent?

(This was inspired by something I read about the Korean War in T.R. Fehrenbach’s This Kind of War. The western press had become fixated on the Chinese “hordes,” with scarcely any action involving anything less than a horde. In fact, the Chinese operated mostly in platoon size or smaller groups, since to do otherwise was to invite instant destruction by UN aircraft and artillery. This led cynical GIs to quip, “Hey, Sarge, how many hordes in a Chinese platoon?”)

Yes. That’s a part of their inherent racism. They fear the “other” and describe them in faces, foreign and exotic terms, preferably as animalistic as possible.

They can’t help themselves; their bigotry shines through.

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jaunte  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:17:50pm

Pemex Chief Executive Carlos Trevino said exploration results at its Ixachi exploratory wells indicate the light oil and natural gas discovery near the eastern state of Veracruz holds more than 1 trillion barrels of proven, probable and possible reserves. That’s up from the prior estimate of more than 350 million barrels announced a year ago.

Now Trump will want to be best friends with Mexico.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:19:23pm

It’s only a matter of time before Orange Foolius flips out a la Jonathan Winters in It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!

It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World Gas Station

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:20:56pm

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

I’m testing the new sous vide cooker on a pork tenderloin from Trader Joes. Stay tuned.

Sous vide is perfect for pork tenderloin. If you didn’t already, try searing the tenderloin first. Let it cool before you bag it of course. Then when it’s done, sear it a second time. You’ll get an extra nice and tasty crust that way.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:26:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:18:31am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:39:29am

Just now listening to the podcast, because today was a bear of a day. Buzz made a slight error regarding the Statue of Liberty. The Emma Lazarus poem was added years after France gave us Lady Liberty. She wrote it in 1883 and it was engraved on (cast into?) a bronze plaque added to the foundation in 1903.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:44:26am

re: #259 KGxvi

I don’t know what the Bundys ideology is (other than greed), but there is a strand of libertarianism that believes in open borders. There’s a belief that labor and capital should be able to freely move across borders.

Oh there definitely is. I’m just surprised to see it from him.

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Sionainn, Too Exhausted to be a Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:41:02am

re: #217 DodgerFan1988

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Mississippi’s Burning

Every time I see a photo of her, I can picture exactly what she’d look like with no teeth. She just has that kind of face.


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