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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:38:32pm

Crypto currencies continue their slide towards utter worthlessness … at least for now.

As tech stocks slide, crypto prices continue their downward march: The price of bitcoin briefly fell as low as $4,100 on Tuesday, a far cry from the $6,500 level it had been trading at just a few weeks ago. Meanwhile, the Justice Department is investigating whether bitcoin’s rise last year was fueled partly by market manipulation, and the SEC has ramped up its enforcement of crypto companies. It seems that the SEC enforcement actions, coupled with Bitcoin Cash’s ongoing split (both Bitcoin ABC and Bitcoin SV are still being traded), put additional pressure on crypto prices.

theinformation.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 27, 2018 • 9:59:40pm

re: #1 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Crypto currencies continue their slide towards utter worthlessness … at least for now.

theinformation.com

At least tulips were pretty.

I just don’t understand this whole thing—or want to—but if you can issue something, call it “money” and get people to accept it, more power to you. Why, though, does this necessitate a bunch of computers grinding away, wasting vast amounts of energy? WTF are they supposed to be doing that makes your bogus scrip any more believable?

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sagehen  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:00:17pm

cc.com

Trevor Noah tonight…

“How Does This Keep Happening — aka, Why the Second Amendment Doesn’t Apply to Black Men”

(Not funny. Not the least little bit funny.)

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:02:35pm

Update: The sous vide pork tenderloin was fucking great! Garlic pepper marinade, vacuum sealed in the bag & set the Joule for 140 degrees at 2 hours. Then cut the loin out of the bag, patted dry and finished off with a short hot pan sear, cut into medallions and dusted with grated parmesan.

Hey, I’m cookin’ over here!

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:02:38pm

Courtney Barnett is so badass.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:16:02pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Teukka  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:17:28pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

404’d.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:17:46pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:22:08pm

re: #7 Teukka

404’d.

Yeah, ABC deleted their tweet with the video at this link

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Teukka  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:26:16pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yeah, ABC deleted their tweet with the video at this link

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Oh. Ol’ Krakatoa clearing its throat again?

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sagehen  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:39:49pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 10:55:23pm

Last year on Twitter Thanksgiving was very fun for me.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 27, 2018 • 11:29:09pm
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 27, 2018 • 11:50:55pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2018 • 11:55:19pm

Shit’s weird and very sad right now. My feelings are ultra-conflicted and fucked up. I put these words here and here only, not on my Twitter or Facebook, they wouldn’t understand.

Only the good die young. That was a Billy Joel song?

Fate, Juju, the inevitability, it sometimes comes and robs us of the best, the bright lights…

I am very sad right now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 12:29:28am

re: #2 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

At least tulips were pretty.

I just don’t understand this whole thing—or want to—but if you can issue something, call it “money” and get people to accept it, more power to you. Why, though, does this necessitate a bunch of computers grinding away, wasting vast amounts of energy? WTF are they supposed to be doing that makes your bogus scrip any more believable?

It’s called “a scam.”

The folks who came up with this convinced others that what they were doing was valuable, backed by nothing but their word. The first people in were the ones who got rich.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 12:30:56am

re: #13 Single-handed sailor

Justin Trudeau

JustinTrudeau

President Donald Trump and I had a good call today to discuss GM, the auto industry and how best to support people affected on both sides of the border. We’re going to keep working to address continued trade barriers as we head into the G20 summit this week.

a subtle bit of trolling…Trump railed on about GM bosses for closing plants but Trudeau reminded us that the concern of a President/PM should be for the people affected.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 12:35:51am

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

It’s called “a scam.”

The folks who came up with this convinced others that what they were doing was valuable, backed by nothing but their word. The first people in were the ones who got rich.

It also played off an ideology and a viewpoint that government were too corrupt to be trusted to manage a currency, and that it was better to trust a bunch of anonymous, faceless speculators…

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2018 • 1:06:42am

Rest in peace Harry.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 1:09:06am

re: #14 Ace-o-aces

The New York Times ran with a Nazi dogwhistle “cultural Marxism” statement from David Brooks? I see they still haven’t apologised for endorsing Hitler.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 1:12:14am

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Rest in peace Harry.

Fair winds and following seas, sir.

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Teukka  Nov 28, 2018 • 1:12:41am

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Rest in peace Harry.

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freetoken  Nov 28, 2018 • 2:59:06am

re: #263 jaunte

… more than 1 trillion barrels of proven, probable and possible reserves.

That’s a misleading article. “Proven” reserves are different than “possible”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 3:16:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 3:23:12am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹

Quietly developing a slingshot that hurls a history book at each person who tweets “this is not who we are.”

This is not who we aspire to be

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 28, 2018 • 3:57:17am

re: #22 Teukka

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:15:46am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:16:59am

re: #27 Dave In Austin

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Oh boy. A lotta Republicans should be sweating bullets now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:19:48am

Well then, is she running?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:29:02am

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹

Well then, is [Nikki Haley] running?

All the Never-Trumpers or Trump victims like Haley or Flake can run all they want, but will not get out of the starting gate with a majority of GOP primary voters still being rabid Trump fans.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:29:32am

Among Republicans, some are frustrated that others don’t want to work the long hours that would be necessary to get legislation through, while others, including the many who lost seats as Democrats took over the House of Representatives, want to get home to their families for the holidays.

“Everybody wants to quit at 4 o’clock so they can go home to watch ‘Wheel of Fortune.’ And nobody wants to work on the weekends,” said Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA).

Well no shit, fucknuts. If I knew that I had one month left before I’d have to start looking for a new job, with the ability to fuck off wherever I wanted to in the remaining time left, I sure as fuck wouldn’t put 100% of my effort into my work. What are they going to do to me at this point? Fire my ass?

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Teukka  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:45:36am

Sanity/Humor break:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:47:13am

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Rest in peace Harry.

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Really liked his insights. Condolences to Harry’s family. He really will be missed.

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Seafaring, coquito drinking Santa!  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:47:40am

re: #1 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Crypto currencies continue their slide towards utter worthlessness … at least for now.

theinformation.com

Can we deport the crypto bros from PR now?

//-half

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:49:32am

re: #31 Targetpractice

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Well no shit, fucknuts. If I knew that I had one month left before I’d have to start looking for a new job, with the ability to fuck off wherever I wanted to in the remaining time left, I sure as fuck wouldn’t put 100% of my effort into my work. What are they going to do to me at this point? Fire my ass?

Yet these guys love shitting on poor people’s work ethic.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:54:23am

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹

Well then, is she running?

Not a good look, Nikki Haley. Never go all in on D&S

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freetoken  Nov 28, 2018 • 4:58:28am

re: #36 Sir John Barron

Not a good look, Nikki Haley. Never go all in on D&S

D&S are tokens, political props.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:01:58am

re: #37 freetoken

D&S are tokens, political props.

Who will be tossed to the side when the right needs a new prop.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:03:31am

re: #37 freetoken

D&S are tokens, political props.

They are good for Haley right now, she wants to do the “strong conservative woman” thing to appeal to GOP voters

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:03:33am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Who will be tossed to the side when the right needs a new prop.

They will be forgotten once Trump is out of office, much like Not-Joe the Not-Plumber.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:12:31am

re: #40 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

They will be forgotten once Trump is out of office, much like Not-Joe the Not-Plumber.

I’m sure that gay couple the nyt focused on would love to replace them. Man I’m glad that Democrats never do cynical bs like this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:14:51am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

I’m sure that gay couple the nyt focused on would love to replace them. Man I’m glad that Democrats never do cynical bs like this.

because, oddly enough, our “liberal-controlled” press would never let them get away with it

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jeffreyw  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:15:16am

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Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:15:48am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because, oddly enough, our “liberal-controlled” press would never let them get away with it

Well because Democrats don’t pull stupid shit like that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:23:23am

ksl.com

The FDA is coming out with a new label for romaine lettuce in the next few days, following the nationwide recall.

Once the label is released, the FDA says you should only buy lettuce with the new label (there is no example of the label yet).

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is now encouraging producers and distributors to label romaine lettuce with a harvest location and date — and cautioning people to only buy romaine lettuce that is labeled thus.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:25:46am

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

ksl.com

The FDA is coming out with a new label for romaine lettuce in the next few days, following the nationwide recall.

The “we are back to doing the job that we were mandated to do!” label?

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:33:04am

Apparently the wingnut media is struggling to make Donny out as still “winning” post-midterms. Latest effort: Spin Schumer’s floating of an agreement from earlier this year for $1.6B that would go to border security as his “bending” to Donny’s demand for money for the Wall. And Schumer is not only sticking to that, he’s now tacking on the condition that if the funding is to be approved, it has to be as part of a larger bill such as the one to protect Mueller.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:34:31am

The problem with using people like D&S & Not Joe is they don’t really say much. They’re cynical political props to make an elitist and racist party seem what they’re not. They’re used especially D&S to be “Hey they can’t be racist or classist, these two support them.” I wonder what someone like Michael Steele thinks of them. Someone who actually has a political resume and didn’t get to where he is by being a prop. The thing is D&S will be replaced I seriously expect by an equally cynical gay and or Hispanic person. It’d be one thing if D&S and Not Joe actually had intelligent insights to offer but they offer talking points only and a way for the GOP base to feel safe from being called prejudiced or pawns of the very wealthy.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:40:15am

re: #32 Teukka

Bryan’s great follow….. Just for the Photos. Bryon has the job I was made to do, and in the same neighborhoods I grew up in. I just didn’t like the school part.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:43:00am

re: #37 freetoken

D&S are tokens, political props.

much like Nikki

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Teukka  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:43:38am

re: #49 Dave In Austin

Bryan’s great follow….. Just for the Photos. Bryon has the job I was made to do, and in the same neighborhoods I grew up in. I just didn’t like the school part.

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Oooh! Shek snek!

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:49:52am

re: #51 Teukka

Oooh! Shek snek!

He runs a company in Phx/Prescott called Rattlesnake Solutions. That, plus ASU and City research project grants on isolated reptile populations stranded by development in the desert parks. Fascinating!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:53:34am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 5:59:22am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

The problem with using people like D&S & Not Joe is they don’t really say much. They’re cynical political props to make an elitist and racist party seem what they’re not. They’re used especially D&S to be “Hey they can’t be racist or classist, these two support them.” I wonder what someone like Michael Steele thinks of them. Someone who actually has a political resume and didn’t get to where he is by being a prop. The thing is D&S will be replaced I seriously expect by an equally cynical gay and or Hispanic person. It’d be one thing if D&S and Not Joe actually had intelligent insights to offer but they offer talking points only and a way for the GOP base to feel safe from being called prejudiced or pawns of the very wealthy.

See Caitlin Jenner. Kanye. Gretchen Carlson. Others who as soon as they’ve served their purpose they are cast aside. And yet more people line up to do this with the right (Rayon and Sandstone being the latest), because each one thinks this time they can get what they want.

Right now at Drudge:

MUELLER CORNERED? (Top headline, goes to the Boston Globe, which is an article about Trump attacking Mueller.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:01:28am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:01:43am

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:01:53am

So, Vanky is apparently Evil Gwyneth Paltrow…

‘My own compass and signal,’ eh? What a load of guano.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:02:02am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:02:17am

re: #47 Targetpractice

Apparently the wingnut media is struggling to make Donny out as still “winning” post-midterms. Latest effort: Spin Schumer’s floating of an agreement from earlier this year for $1.6B that would go to border security as his “bending” to Donny’s demand for money for the Wall. And Schumer is not only sticking to that, he’s now tacking on the condition that if the funding is to be approved, it has to be as part of a larger bill such as the one to protect Mueller.

You mean the $1.6 billion in border security/Build The Wall that Mexico is going to pay for?

/

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:02:40am

Faux again reminding us that being staff of a propaganda network can lead to a lot of confusion when The Party line changes:

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:02:48am

Trump brags, ‘I blow Ronald Reagan away’ (Washington Examiner, more at the link, caution for auto-play video which has nothing to do with the article, just to run up your data plan):

President Trump believes that his long list of achievements in office make him “far greater than Ronald Reagan.”

In a new book out Tuesday about his “enemies,” the president said that while he feels “I blow Ronald Reagan away,” the “fake news” media is robbing him of bragging rights by ignoring his successes and focusing on his problems.

And even more frustrating, he told “Trump’s Enemies” authors and supporters Corey R. Lewandowski and David N. Bossie, some established conservative columnists aren’t giving him any credit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:03:21am

moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:04:17am

super moron

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:05:09am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Trump brags, ‘I blow Ronald Reagan away’ (Washington Examiner, more at the link, caution for auto-play video which has nothing to do with the article, just to run up your data plan):

When you have your staff so cowed that they absolutely refuse to tell you any bad news at all for fear they’ll be escorted off the property by SS agents before the day’s over, it’s easy to think you’re the center of the fucking universe.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:05:15am

re: #37 freetoken

D&S are tokens, political props.

*Paid* props.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:08:00am

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

super moron

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Totally the behavior of an innocent man, accusing the prosecution of using the threat of incarceration to force witnesses into perjuring themselves.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:08:24am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump is again threatening to shut down the government to get a wall no one actually wants.

Schumer’s got $1.6 billion for a wall in his pocket, but it’s got the poison pill provision the GOP wont want - namely protect Mueller. The GOP knows Mueller’s going to be ripping Trumpworld to pieces, as Butina is now in talks (and there goes the GOP/NRA money-train too), and other pieces of Trumpworld are being positioned by Mueller like dominoes to fall at a time and place of Mueller’s choosing.

That’s why Trump and GOP are so busy trying to claim that everything Mueller’s doing is wrong. They can’t actually point to anything Mueller did as wrong. They’re just trying to smear him, because Mueller has the receipts (and the paper trail going back to the point of origin).

So, when Ivanka tries to claim that her email mess is somehow different than what Hillary did, know that it’s a lie.

Ivanka’s problems are worse - not only did Trumpworld campaign on email security and information security, but she actively flaunted all the rules. Clinton operated under a different set of rules, that allowed for a grey area that allowed the private server setup. Ivanka conducted official business on private email - and that’s a no-no.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:11:06am

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

super moron

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Super moron telegraphing that he is going to do blanket pardons.

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freetoken  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:11:12am
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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:11:41am

re: #67 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump is again threatening to shut down the government to get a wall no one actually wants.

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Schumer’s got Donny pretty well treed: Agree to sign a bill that protects Mueller in exchange for less than the $5B you’ve been demanding or cause a partial government shutdown just weeks before Christmas after making it clear you’re the one who’ll be shutting down the government over funding for a very unpopular campaign demand.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:11:42am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

See Caitlin Jenner. Kanye. Gretchen Carlson. Others who as soon as they’ve served their purpose they are cast aside. And yet more people line up to do this with the right (Rayon and Sandstone being the latest), because each one thinks this time they can get what they want.

Right now at Drudge:

MUELLER CORNERED? (Top headline, goes to the Boston Globe, which is an article about Trump attacking Mueller.)

A little different though. Caitlin, Kanye, and Gretchen were already famous before they were. No one knew who D&S or Not Joe were beforehand. It’s similiar but not quite the same. And frankly I think Kanye was trying to use them as much as they were trying to use him from what I gather.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:11:50am

Watching the Trump regime coming to a close is like watching a train fly off a cliff, but in ultra-slow motion. With Trump himself spinning like a top at 10x normal speed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:13:17am

re: #57 makeitstop

So, Vanky is apparently Evil Gwyneth Paltrow…

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‘My own compass and signal,’ eh? What a load of guano.

Ivanka is her father’s daughter in the worst possible way.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:13:43am

re: #68 MsJ

Super moron telegraphing that he is going to do blanket pardons.

Donny can only pardon for federal crimes, while Paulie violating the terms of the plea agreement means NY and VA can bring his ass down for various state and local crimes. So even if he’s pardoned for the federal crimes, he’s still going to die in jail.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:14:22am

re: #59 Sir John Barron

You mean the $1.6 billion in border security/Build The Wall that Mexico is going to pay for?

/

I would actually have no problem with this amount is it was to go to improve existing infrastructure.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:14:31am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Trump brags, ‘I blow Ronald Reagan away’ (Washington Examiner, more at the link, caution for auto-play video which has nothing to do with the article, just to run up your data plan):

You do blow Ronald Reagan in one way Donald, Reagan could sometimes act like a President which you never do. You act like a WWE version of a President.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:14:45am

re: #70 Targetpractice

Schumer’s got Donny pretty well treed: Agree to sign a bill that protects Mueller in exchange for less than the $5B you’ve been demanding or cause a partial government shutdown just weeks before Christmas after making it clear you’re the one who’ll be shutting down the government over funding for a very unpopular campaign demand.

Not just a campaign demand, but one he repeatedly swore that Mexico would pay for.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:15:32am

re: #77 MsJ

Not just a campaign demand, but one he repeatedly swore that Mexico would pay for.

And one that even members of his own party are now calling bullshit on, claiming that he’s driving the country towards ruin for something he promised for years was going to be paid by someone else.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:15:40am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

A little different though. Caitlin, Kanye, and Gretchen were already famous before they were. No one knew who D&S or Not Joe were beforehand. It’s similiar but not quite the same. And frankly I think Kanye was trying to use them as much as they were trying to use him from what I gather.

Kanye has mental health issues.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:16:12am

re: #77 MsJ

Not just a campaign demand, but one he repeatedly swore that Mexico would pay for.

That really is something that the Dems should hold on to his neck. Because you know damn well if they make the taxpayers pay for it and when taxes go up, Trump and the GOP will blame the Dems. Don’t give a damn inch on the wall.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:16:13am

re: #74 Targetpractice

Donny can only pardon for federal crimes, while Paulie violating the terms of the plea agreement means NY and VA can bring his ass down for various state and local crimes. So even if he’s pardoned for the federal crimes, he’s still going to die in jail.

Do you think trump understands this?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:17:04am

re: #79 MsJ

Kanye has mental health issues.

That’s my belief as well. I actually do feel kind of bad for him in a way I don’t the others. And he realized he was being used pretty quickly. D&S and Not Joe never did.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:17:41am

re: #80 HappyWarrior

That really is something that the Dems should hold on to his neck. Because you know damn well if they make the taxpayers pay for it and when taxes go up, Trump and the GOP will blame the Dems. Don’t give a damn inch on the wall.

I have no problem giving trump some money for this BS if it protects Mueller, SocSec and Medicare.

It will go nowhere anyway, at least not while trump is alive. This wall bullshit will be tied up in litigation for decades.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:17:44am

re: #81 MsJ

Do you think trump understands this?

He doesn’t but the fact is his pardons can’t impact what the state AG offices are doing no matter how much he cries on Twitter.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:17:57am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Ivanka is her father’s daughter in the worst possible way.

An entire family of rich, spoiled brats. It must be sheer hell to even be in the same room with any of them.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:18:03am

re: #81 MsJ

Do you think trump understands this?

Not at all. I also think that he and Manafort were dumb enough to believe that Mueller would never catch on to them.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:18:04am

re: #76 HappyWarrior

You do blow Ronald Reagan in one way Donald, Reagan could sometimes act like a President which you never do. You act like a WWE version of a President.

As with the Challenger disaster. Or meeting with Gorbachev and doing the INF treaty.

Trump thinks nukes should be used, and doesn’t get how international relations works. He cares only what he can do that profits him personally.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:18:36am

re: #83 MsJ

I have no problem giving trump some money for this BS if it protects Mueller, SocSec and Medicare.

It will go nowhere anyway, at least not while trump is alive. This wall bullshit will be tied up in litigation for decades.

I don’t trust Trump to protect Mueller or SS or Medicare. I hope you’re right that it would get tied up in litigation hell though.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:19:29am

re: #83 MsJ

I have no problem giving trump some money for this BS if it protects Mueller, SocSec and Medicare.

It will go nowhere anyway, at least not while trump is alive. This wall bullshit will be tied up in litigation for decades.

He’ll build a portion on federal land where he and/or his hired goons can fast-track the construction, just so he can stand before the rubes in 2020 and claim that he’s keeping his promise and to reelect him so he can “finish the job.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:19:41am

Trump is retweeting memes and comments from an account called @The_Trump_Train. They are stupid memes and comments.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:20:06am

re: #85 makeitstop

An entire family of rich, spoiled brats. It must be sheer hell to even be in the same room with any of them.

Don Jr and Eric are bad but I find Ivanka even more odious and here’s why. She tries to present a veneer of civility when she’s really not. She needs to be investigated. Both her and her equally crooked hubby. And that means the kids lose their parents, so be it, Ivanka and Jared are both criminals.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:20:44am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Trump is retweeting memes and comments from an account called @The_Trump_Train. They are stupid memes and comments.

Must resist train joke.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:20:44am

Damn. RIP Harry Leslie Smith. :((((

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:20:45am

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Yo! A friend sent me this link yesterday, which I think you’ll enjoy - Freeborn Frank Turner.

He considers himself a small-L libertarian. Kinda surprising.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:20:50am

re: #89 Targetpractice

He’ll build a portion on federal land where he and/or his hired goons can fast-track the construction, just so he can stand before the rubes in 2020 and claim that he’s keeping his promise and to reelect him so he can “finish the job.”

I think you just nailed his strategy, yes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:21:24am

re: #87 lawhawk

As with the Challenger disaster. Or meeting with Gorbachev and doing the INF treaty.

Trump thinks nukes should be used, and doesn’t get how international relations works. He cares only what he can do that profits him personally.

Exactly and as awful as I feel Reagan and others were, I don’t feel they operated that way. Trump is about Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:22:11am

re: #81 MsJ

Do you think trump understands this?

his gut tells him different…

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:22:31am

re: #85 makeitstop

An entire family of rich, spoiled brats. It must be sheer hell to even be in the same room with any of them.

To be fair, that really applies to Ivana’s brood. Tiffany seems to have been kept far enough away from Donny that the worst she demonstrates is that emphatic disconnect from those outside her social circle that the wealthy tend to demonstrate. And we’ve seen little of Barron, so there’s no way to tell just how he’ll turn out.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:23:47am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Trump is retweeting memes and comments from an account called @The_Trump_Train. They are stupid memes and comments.

Southpaw is looking around for weird retweets. Here’s one from ‘catpenis.’

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:24:25am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:25:04am

re: #98 Targetpractice

To be fair, that really applies to Ivana’s brood. Tiffany seems to have been kept far enough away from Donny that the worst she demonstrates is that emphatic disconnect from those outside her social circle that the wealthy tend to demonstrate. And we’ve seen little of Barron, so there’s no way to tell just how he’ll turn out.

I really do hope for the best for Barron. I know some are doubtful but I choose to be half glass full on the kid. If he ends up being awful like his half brothers and oldest half sister though, then I’ll gladly criticize him too. Tiffany I think benefited from probably having the most normal mother of the three Trump wives.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:25:29am

re: #100 lawhawk

Tell me again why this admitted vocal minority should be taken seriously? They couldn’t even find someone among their own to nominate against Pelosi.

They will not back down from “Democrats in disarray” and “Pelosi under pressure to step down”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:25:42am

re: #100 lawhawk

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Way to go Seth, shot your career in the foot.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:31:18am

re: #100 lawhawk

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This was backroom politics, that’s all it ever really was. Ryan and Moulton had no real chance of unseating her, they were hoping to somehow build enough leverage to get committee chairs or even leadership chairs for her in exchange for dropping their opposition. Look for a lot of “symbolic” votes today, mostly the new Blue Dog Caucus looking to keep campaign promises not to support her for Speaker.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:32:12am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will not back down from “Democrats in disarray” and “Pelosi under pressure to step down”

Nope. That old tune will never fall off the charts: today’s NYT featured a lengthy piece pondering whether or not the new crop of progressive Democrats will turn into “Nancy Pelosi’s ‘Freedom Caucus’”.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:33:39am

re: #89 Targetpractice

He’ll build a portion on federal land where he and/or his hired goons can fast-track the construction, just so he can stand before the rubes in 2020 and claim that he’s keeping his promise and to reelect him so he can “finish the job.”

There is no way he can run on it, none. He might try but the whole “Mexico will pay for it!” will kill any mileage he might have gotten out of it.

Imagine a commercial of ALL THE TIMES he changed Mexico Will Pay and “Who will pay for it?” with a responding crowd of MEXICO! He must have said it 50x at his various Nuremberg rallies.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:36:22am

re: #104 Targetpractice

This was backroom politics, that’s all it ever really was. Ryan and Moulton had no real chance of unseating her, they were hoping to somehow build enough leverage to get committee chairs or even leadership chairs for her in exchange for dropping their opposition. Look for a lot of “symbolic” votes today, mostly the new Blue Dog Caucus looking to keep campaign promises not to support her for Speaker.

I don’t want Moulton or Ryan primaried after this but I do want them to know that they won’t be essential parts of or leadership at all in the future.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:37:50am

Sensing Defeat, Trump Cries ‘Witch Hunt’ (Rick Wilson at Daily Beast)

A princeling who’s literally lived in a golden tower for most of his adult life is not good with stress. And there’s a lot of stress on him now, and much more coming.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:38:16am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

his gut tells him different…

It’s heartburn. And it’s just the initial stage.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:38:35am

re: #106 MsJ

There is no way he can run on it, none. He might try but the whole “Mexico will pay for it!” will kill any mileage he might have gotten out of it.

Imagine a commercial of ALL THE TIMES he changed Mexico Will Pay and “Who will pay for it?” with a responding crowd of MEXICO! He must have said it 50x at his various Nuremberg rallies.

I hate to break it to you, but having been around wingnuts a lot since he won, I’ve heard all sorts of variations of “He’ll get them to pay another way!” The most popular remains a tax on wire transfers to Mexico, but they also like to believe he’s gonna use funds raised from tariffs or even squeezing some sort of one-time payment out of Mexico as part of a trade deal to do it. So yes, if he goes to them in 2020 and promises to make Mexico pay during his second term, they will believe him implicitly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:38:50am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I don’t want Moulton or Ryan primaried after this but I do want them to know that they won’t be essential parts of or leadership at all in the future.

If they are in safe districts I do. They are part of the “No Labels” group of Astroturf “centrists” funded by right-wingers.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:39:18am

re: #98 Targetpractice

To be fair, that really applies to Ivana’s brood. Tiffany seems to have been kept far enough away from Donny that the worst she demonstrates is that emphatic disconnect from those outside her social circle that the wealthy tend to demonstrate. And we’ve seen little of Barron, so there’s no way to tell just how he’ll turn out.

Both of Barron’s parents are truly awful human beings. He will likely turn out worse than Donny J. I think Melanie is far worse than Ivana.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:40:07am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

If they are in safe districts I do. They are part of the “No Labels” group of Astroturf “centrists” funded by right-wingers.

Why fund primary challengers when that money could be used otherwise? Moulton is more safe than Ryan is though.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:41:01am

re: #65 MsJ

*Paid* props.

I mis-read that as Plaid props at first and I swear that was even more frightening!

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Weaselone  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:41:38am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Why fund primary challengers when that money could be used otherwise? Moulton is more safe than Ryan is though.

Because ratfuckers inside the tent make things that much more difficult?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:41:40am

re: #112 MsJ

Both of Barron’s parents are truly awful human beings. He will likely turn out worse than Donny J. I think Melanie is far worse than Ivana.

That’s not really fair though. There are children of awful parents who turn out fine and vice versa. I will say this. I’d be far more cynical about the kid’s future if his Dad were active in his life.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:42:07am

re: #110 Targetpractice

I hate to break it to you, but having been around wingnuts a lot since he won, I’ve heard all sorts of variations of “He’ll get them to pay another way!” The most popular remains a tax on wire transfers to Mexico, but they also like to believe he’s gonna use funds raised from tariffs or even squeezing some sort of one-time payment out of Mexico as part of a trade deal to do it. So yes, if he goes to them in 2020 and promises to make Mexico pay during his second term, they will believe him implicitly.

27% of the US population is hopelessly lost. The rest, not so much. So I agree that those 27% will lap up anything Trump says. The rest will not.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:42:46am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Why fund primary challengers when that money could be used otherwise? Moulton is more safe than Ryan is though.

“No Labels” is made up of Republicans and Democrats, pushing Republican ideas.

The money could be used to put up Democrats who support Democratic ideas.

I mentioned “safe district.” If West Virginia was safe, would you want to see a primary challenger to Senator Joe Manchin, or save the money?

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:43:09am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

That’s not really fair though. There are children of awful parents who turn out fine and vice versa. I will say this. I’d be far more cynical about the kid’s future if his Dad were active in his life.

His awful mother is active in his life. She is as bad as trump himself.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:43:09am

re: #115 Weaselone

Because ratfuckers inside the tent make things that much more difficult?

I’m just saying keep your friends close but keep enemies closer. Pelosi is smart enough not to hold grudges.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:44:11am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

I’m just saying keep your friends close but keep enemies closer. Pelosi is smart enough not to hold grudges.

She’s also smart enough not to give power to someone who would stab Democrats in the back (including her).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:44:31am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

Sensing Defeat, Trump Cries ‘Witch Hunt’ (Rick Wilson at Daily Beast)

A princeling who’s literally lived in a golden tower for most of his adult life is not good with stress. And there’s a lot of stress on him now, and much more coming.

Which means he might decide to lash out with all the powers at hand unless his own people can keep him in check.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:44:33am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹

“No Labels” is made up of Republicans and Democrats, pushing Republican ideas.

The money could be used to put up Democrats who support Democratic ideas.

I mentioned “safe district.” If West Virginia was safe, would you want to see a primary challenger to Senator Joe Manchin, or save the money?

I’d rather that money go to overturning a district controlled by a Republican. I don’t trust either but I also see how Pelosi got Fudge and Higgins to support her.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:45:16am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

She’s also smart enough not to give power to someone who would stab Democrats in the back (including her).

Which is why I said they shouldn’t be given leadership or important committee positions.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:45:33am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:45:42am

re: #119 MsJ

His awful mother is active in his life. She is as bad as trump himself.

True that.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:46:47am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

Sensing Defeat, Trump Cries ‘Witch Hunt’ (Rick Wilson at Daily Beast)

A princeling who’s literally lived in a golden tower for most of his adult life is not good with stress. And there’s a lot of stress on him now, and much more coming.

Love him or hate him, Wilson’s columns on Trump are pretty delicious.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:46:57am

Mississippi yo….

There’s a reason that it’s an economic basket case that relies heavily on federal funding to stay afloat. Decades of voodoo economics hasn’t worked, and that’s by design, because those in power don’t want power or economic success trickling down to minorities. And they certainly don’t want them voting.

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Archangelus  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:47:21am

Good day there folks, what’d I miss?
* Reads news *
Oh…

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:52:15am

Off-topic:

I called about that job offer mailing to be a water system instructor for the state, enquiring about my epilepsy and the minimum time required for a license.

They told me the epilepsy could be waived, but the time holding a license cannot. So, I’m still not sure why they sent me the offer. The time I have had a license is on the state license-holder Website.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:52:41am

re: #117 MsJ

27% of the US population is hopelessly lost. The rest, not so much. So I agree that those 27% will lap up anything Trump says. The rest will not.

Yet it was the 27% who I really talking about when I said “the rubes.” The midterms will have convinced Donny that the key to his reelection efforts is driving up the turnout of his base, because he did that with his “wag-the-dog” border bullshit and the GOP kept the Senate. He doesn’t give a flying fuck that he just cost the GOP the House and will see more seats lost in 2020, he’s only worried about one person’s ass: His own.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:54:10am

As I’ve said Trump has a higher floor than most but his ceiling is lower than most. That’s good and bad.

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Weaselone  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:55:15am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic:

I called about that job offer mailing to be a water system instructor for the state, enquiring about my epilepsy and the minimum time required for a license.

They told me the epilepsy could be waived, but the time holding a license cannot. So, I’m still not sure why they sent me the offer. The time I have had a license is on the state license-holder Website.

How much more time to you need?

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:56:44am

I know everyone’s upset about Mississippi’s special election outcome, but let’s also note that over the past few elections, the GOP has consistently won by double digits.

2018- Wicker won 58-39 (a 19 point margin).
2014 - Cochrane won 59-38 (21 point margin).
2012 - Wicker won 57-40 (17 point margin).
2008 - Cochrane won 61-39 (22 point margin).

Last night, Espy lost 54-46, meaning that Hyde-Smith won by… 8 points.

That’s in a state that went hard for Trump. 58-40 (18 points).

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:57:43am

re: #112 MsJ

Both of Barron’s parents are truly awful human beings. He will likely turn out worse than Donny J. I think Melanie is far worse than Ivana.

Thing to bear into mind is that, given past history in the Trump family, there is gonna be a very messy fight in the courts once Don eats his last cheeseburger over who gets what. Ivana’s trio of shitheads is already maneuvering to cut Tiffany out of the will, and Jared will want a piece if only to prop up his own family’s tottering mess of a real estate “empire,” so Barron could find himself with a very bitter mother screaming in the courts that she deserves a slice of the pie as his elder siblings argue that she was never entitled to anything.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 6:57:53am

re: #127 makeitstop

Love him or hate him, Wilson’s columns on Trump are pretty delicious.

The last line: “Go long on popcorn stocks.”

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:01:07am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

Sensing Defeat, Trump Cries ‘Witch Hunt’ (Rick Wilson at Daily Beast)

A princeling who’s literally lived in a golden tower for most of his adult life is not good with stress. And there’s a lot of stress on him now, and much more coming.

I maintain my belief that he’s gonna end up resigning before it’s all over. He’ll keep with the Nixon tradition, not in the “For the good of the country” Watergate-style exit, but the bitter “You don’t have Nixon to kick around anymore” style stomping off.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:01:15am

re: #112 MsJ

Both of Barron’s parents are truly awful human beings. He will likely turn out worse than Donny J. I think Melanie is far worse than Ivana.

I’m not going to really bother myself with Barron’s future, but the kid whose dad ran Stormfront turned against him.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:01:50am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:02:13am

re: #138 Belafon

I’m not going to really bother myself with Barron’s future, but the kid whose dad ran Stormfront turned against him.

And some Nazi’s children did as well. Barron’s not my concern but I’m hoping for the best.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:03:05am

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

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Ivanka is an enabler. She doesn’t give two damns about those people. Just her image as our benevolent princess.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:03:17am

re: #131 Targetpractice

Yet it was the 27% who I really talking about when I said “the rubes.” The midterms will have convinced Donny that the key to his reelection efforts is driving up the turnout of his base, because he did that with his “wag-the-dog” border bullshit and the GOP kept the Senate. He doesn’t give a flying fuck that he just cost the GOP the House and will see more seats lost in 2020, he’s only worried about one person’s ass: His own.

And in 2020 it’s the Republicans which face a bad Senate map (though not as bad as the Democrats this time round), plus two more years of a loose cannon in the White House they are tied to being dragged round the deck.

I’m not much of a political pundit or politician (or I’d have won my reëlection), but 2020 looks pretty good. The GOP is stuck in the position they were with Nixon: When to cut away to try to save their seats.

I can’t speak for other red states, but here the Democrats put up more candidates at all levels of governance than we ever have. We put up a record number of women. In my deep red county, the other two Democrats running for office, both women (a school board on the other side of the county) won and ousted two Republican men.

The trick here is to remind ranchers and farmers that their agricultural woes are not the cause of migrants a thousand miles away, but the trade policies they voted for. Small businesses in the area need the message that those tariffs are hurting and not helping. (I don’t want to see a bad holiday shopping season here but I fully expect one.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:04:22am

re: #137 Targetpractice

I maintain my belief that he’s gonna end up resigning before it’s all over. He’ll keep with the Nixon tradition, not in the “For the good of the country” Watergate-style exit, but the bitter “You don’t have Nixon to kick around anymore” style stomping off.

except that he will go out of his way to wreck as much as possible before storming off

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lizardofid  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:04:40am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic:

I called about that job offer mailing to be a water system instructor for the state, enquiring about my epilepsy and the minimum time required for a license.

They told me the epilepsy could be waived, but the time holding a license cannot. So, I’m still not sure why they sent me the offer. The time I have had a license is on the state license-holder Website.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:06:44am

re: #57 makeitstop

So, Vanky is apparently Evil Gwyneth Paltrow…

Alex Mallin ✔
@alex_mallin
.@IvankaTrump after @DebRobertsABC asks what missteps she would say she has made: “I actually have experienced on a personal level this tremendous growth in my own sense of self, in seeing more brightly my own compass and signal…”

8:35 AM - Nov 28, 2018

‘My own compass and signal,’ eh? What a load of guano.

Sounds like Trump talking about what he is thankful for this Thanksgiving.

Arrogance was taught to all Trumps. When you really have nothing pump yourself up.

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KGxvi  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:07:17am

re: #127 makeitstop

Love him or hate him, Wilson’s columns on Trump are pretty delicious.

I like Wilson, if only because I see a lot of my evolution in him. I have a feeling he and I probably agree more philosophically than I likely do with many around here; but I suspect our application of political philosophy probably ends up being different.

Guys like him and Max Boot, who have shown the ability to re-examine their beliefs are worth listening to (as opposed to someone like Bill Kristol, who I assume hasn’t bothered to do any self reflection).

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:08:21am

re: #144 lizardofid

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:08:27am

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

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The apocryphal quote of “let them eat cake” comes to mind. While the general sentiment (in keeping with the revolutionary mindset) has always been that she was showing disdain for the plight of the poor, there’s a growing argument in modern times that Antoinette simply did not understand the situation and thought the poor lacked bread due to shortages rather than being unable to afford such.

I think of that now whenever I hear statements like these from Ivanka, that she’s not a heartless bitch so much as a pampered princess whose worldview is so closed off from reality that she can’t understand when others tell her the truth. Her Daddy tells her something and she accepts it as fact because she has nobody there telling her that he’s lying his ass off.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:09:52am

re: #146 KGxvi

I like Wilson, if only because I see a lot of my evolution in him. I have a feeling he and I probably agree more philosophically than I likely do with many around here; but I suspect our application of political philosophy probably ends up being different.

Guys like him and Max Boot, who have shown the ability to re-examine their beliefs are worth listening to (as opposed to someone like Bill Kristol, who I assume hasn’t bothered to do any self reflection).

You can also add Ana Navarro to that. She’s thought about her past cause and party with thoughtfulness. Some I don’t trust a damn while some I think could be part of a hopefully sane post Trump right.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:11:12am

re: #99 makeitstop

Southpaw is looking around for weird retweets. Here’s one from ‘catpenis.’

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@catpenis seems woke now.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:12:45am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I don’t want Moulton or Ryan primaried after this but I do want them to know that they won’t be essential parts of or leadership at all in the future.

I do.

I want Moulton to get a tiny windowless office in the basement, none of his preferred committee assignments, and a well-funded primary challenge from someone he went to High School with.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:12:48am

re: #67 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump is again threatening to shut down the government to get a wall no one actually wants.

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Ah yes, the con developer in his natural element. That would be the construction area photo with the big dog developer holding an artist rendering of the great project. And there is the big dog developer pointing the way to the glorious future.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:14:40am

I loaned Trump all the money I have so he could use it to buy everything I own and lease it back to me…

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:16:00am

Donny is gonna blink on the Wall, either getting no funding or accepting way less than he demanded. My bet is on the former, agreeing to a short-term funding bill to get him to next spring under the belief that he can either engineer a situation or rely upon the quiet of the pre-Tax Season political landscape to strong-arm the DNC into giving him the funds. Mostly because the latter will come with strings and the most obvious one right now would be giving up his power to fire Mueller in exchange for way less that he was seeking.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:17:07am

re: #115 Weaselone

Because ratfuckers inside the tent make things that much more difficult?

And giving Joe Lieberman a pass worked out so well? Fuck that guy.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:17:15am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

A little different though. Caitlin, Kanye, and Gretchen were already famous before they were. No one knew who D&S or Not Joe were beforehand. It’s similiar but not quite the same. And frankly I think Kanye was trying to use them as much as they were trying to use him from what I gather.

That is exactly what Kanye (and Kim too) were doing dealing with Trump. They were using him like he was using them. It is understood among cons that they need each other to keep the cons going.

And Kayne is just as smart as Trump. Days after his stunt he realized the con didn’t work and he changed back to the non-political hip hop “star” because Trump was hurting the take-in.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:21:12am

re: #74 Targetpractice

Donny can only pardon for federal crimes, while Paulie violating the terms of the plea agreement means NY and VA can bring his ass down for various state and local crimes. So even if he’s pardoned for the federal crimes, he’s still going to die in jail.

And the pardon can be used as further proof of Trump doing it all to obstruct the investigation.

It almost seems like Mueller is dangling that carrot in front of Trump asking him to: “go on take a bite of pardoning Manafort. Come on you know you want to.”

And all of Trumps lawyers and handlers are like: “no, no, no…it’s a trick…the carrot is really dynamite and you are gonna blow yourself and your presidency up if you take a bite.”

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:23:11am

re: #81 MsJ

Do you think trump understands this?

Hell no. Trump is only looking for a way out of the jam. He’ll step on anyone that is in the way.

The question really is: does Manafort know this?

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:28:42am

re: #104 Targetpractice

This was backroom politics, that’s all it ever really was. Ryan and Moulton had no real chance of unseating her, they were hoping to somehow build enough leverage to get committee chairs or even leadership chairs for her in exchange for dropping their opposition. Look for a lot of “symbolic” votes today, mostly the new Blue Dog Caucus looking to keep campaign promises not to support her for Speaker.

I think both did it as a display to the voters in there districts. It was theater for the Pelosi haters. They can say they gave it their best, vote for me again in two years so we can get her out then (knowing she will probably not want the chair and gavel then).

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:33:28am

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

Her fake soft voice grates on me even worse than her old man’s.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:34:43am

re: #157 ObserverArt

And the pardon can be used as further proof of Trump doing it all to obstruct the investigation.

It almost seems like Mueller is dangling that carrot in front of Trump asking him to: “go on take a bite of pardoning Manafort. Come on you know you want to.”

And all of Trumps lawyers and handlers are like: “no, no, no…it’s a trick…the carrot is really dynamite and you are gonna blow yourself and your presidency up if you take a bite.”

What’s worse for Donny right now, what’s going to keep his lawyers up at night going forward, is one question: “How long has Mueller known?” Best case scenario, this is something he just found out and there’s little chance that he knows more than Manafort’s continued lying.

But if he knew for a length of time, and was feeding bullshit to Manafort that has now turned up in Donny’s open-book test? Or caught an offer being floated to Manafort of a pardon in exchange for continuing to stymie Mueller’s efforts? Yeah, any hope Dershowitz and other defenders had that Mueller’s final report would include no criminal findings goes down the toilet.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:36:32am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic:

I called about that job offer mailing to be a water system instructor for the state, enquiring about my epilepsy and the minimum time required for a license.

They told me the epilepsy could be waived, but the time holding a license cannot. So, I’m still not sure why they sent me the offer. The time I have had a license is on the state license-holder Website.

Sounds like someone in your local government knowing how you took responsibility for the town’s water system gave them your name anonymously.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:36:34am

re: #161 Targetpractice

But if he knew for a length of time, and was feeding bullshit to Manafort that has now turned up in Donny’s open-book test? Or caught an offer being floated to Manafort of a pardon in exchange for continuing to stymie Mueller’s efforts? Yeah, any hope Dershowitz and other defenders had that Mueller’s final report would include no criminal findings goes down the toilet.

Of course, Mueller will come out with a final report that exonerates Trump from any of the wrongdoing associated with his campaign director or his staff members and apologizes for wasting taxpayer money on an unfounded politically motivated witch hunt…

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:40:57am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course, Mueller will come out with a final report that exonerates Trump from any of the wrongdoing associated with his campaign director or his staff members and apologizes for wasting taxpayer money on an unfounded politically motivated witch hunt…

“But we netted the government $20M.” :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:42:03am

re: #164 Belafon

“But we netted the government $20M.” :)

blood money

/

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:45:19am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

You can also add Ana Navarro to that. She’s thought about her past cause and party with thoughtfulness. Some I don’t trust a damn while some I think could be part of a hopefully sane post Trump right.

Or, will they all jump in the Kasich bus and start that centrist conservative party in less than a year?

I tell you, that would not surprise me in the least. Kasich could easily take on the mantle of all those never Trumpers and I can see them all saying he is their dream of a workable conservative that can cut across party lines.

Okay, I am now nauseous. I better grab the Pepto!

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:46:10am

The UK has basically given into the “sunk cost” fallacy, i.e. “We can’t back out now because of everything that’s already been spent…”:

This was never about the economy, or “sovereignty,” or trade, or any other of that horseshit. It was always about racism and these people are prepared to trade away their country’s future for a false promise that “those people” will be kicked out to ensure “Britain for Britons.”

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:47:01am
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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:48:18am

re: #166 ObserverArt

Or, will they all jump in the Kasich bus and start that centrist conservative party in less than a year?

I tell you, that would not surprise me in the least. Kasich could easily take on the mantle of all those never Trumpers and I can see them all saying he is their dream of a workable conservative that can cut across party lines.

Okay, I am now nauseous. I better grab the Pepto!

Get ready for the talk about how the time is right for a “third party” that will be composed of “moderates” from both parties who are unhappy with the directions of said parties. You know, the sort of thing we heard back in ‘09 when they suggested that disaffected Dems would leave the DNC to join the TPers.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:48:21am

re: #31 Targetpractice

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Well no shit, fucknuts. If I knew that I had one month left before I’d have to start looking for a new job, with the ability to fuck off wherever I wanted to in the remaining time left, I sure as fuck wouldn’t put 100% of my effort into my work. What are they going to do to me at this point? Fire my ass?

hell…they already did

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:50:44am

re: #167 Targetpractice

The UK has basically given into the “sunk cost” fallacy, i.e. “We can’t back out now because of everything that’s already been spent…”:

It is also a matter of saving face.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:51:25am

re: #167 Targetpractice

Suckers bought into the lies spread by those who claimed that Brexit would somehow benefit NHS and the Brits - giving them some amorphous sovereignty that they’ve otherwise lacked as a part of the EU.

Turns out that the only ones who benefit from Brexit aren’t in the UK or EU.

They’re in Russia as they watch the EU torn apart and the parts are less capable than the whole. The UK economy is far worse off than if it remained.

All this inertia to try and go to Brexit is because the proponents have nothing else. If they admit failure, they’re tossed out on their ear (they should be). Going forward, they should be tossed out anyways. Nothing they’re doing supports a strong UK. It shows that they are so much like Trump in being economically illiterate and incapable of accepting basic facts.

The UK will be worse off no matter how the UK leaves the EU. The only question is how bad it will be (and it will be pretty bad).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:51:30am

re: #166 ObserverArt

Or, will they all jump in the Kasich bus and start that centrist conservative party in less than a year?

I tell you, that would not surprise me in the least. Kasich could easily take on the mantle of all those never Trumpers and I can see them all saying he is their dream of a workable conservative that can cut across party lines.

Okay, I am now nauseous. I better grab the Pepto!

If that prevents Trump from being re-elected, I’m all for a splintering of the GOP in 2020. I do hear you about Kasich though. You know him perhaps the best of anyone I know and I trust your political instincts. Kasich gets way too much credit. I appreciate that he’s anti Trump but he’s not a centrist or reasonable guy and as you’ve correctly pointed out a bit of a dick in his own way too.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:51:42am

re: #167 Targetpractice

The UK has basically given into the “sunk cost” fallacy, i.e. “We can’t back out now because of everything that’s already been spent…”:

This was never about the economy, or “sovereignty,” or trade, or any other of that horseshit. It was always about racism and these people are prepared to trade away their country’s future for a false promise that “those people” will be kicked out to ensure “Britain for Britons.”

Want to see where a parlaimentary system fails, it’s this: There is nothing forcing this group to call for new elections. As long as they hang together, they can take everyone down with them. Even though the GOP has held together, they couldn’t stop the November elections.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:52:17am

re: #168 Ace-o-aces

So the Democrats realized that their mob strategy is hurting them, so they decided to send some bombs to Obama & Hillary and make the GOP look bad!!

— VP FAN

Then we sent money to Beto ORourke who sent money to George Soros who funded the Tijuania Caravan that reached the border a month after the election in order to…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:52:55am

re: #169 Targetpractice

Get ready for the talk about how the time is right for a “third party” that will be composed of “moderates” from both parties who are unhappy with the directions of said parties. You know, the sort of thing we heard back in ‘09 when they suggested that disaffected Dems would leave the DNC to join the TPers.

Or that the angry HRC supporters would support McCain over Obama because McCain picked Palin as his running mate. Yeah and I hear Bloomberg may run too. Gah. Just because Trump’s a failure doesn’t mean the rest of the right is really offering anything better.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:53:06am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Trump brags, ‘I blow Ronald Reagan away (Washington Examiner, more at the link, caution for auto-play video which has nothing to do with the article, just to run up your data plan):

im wondering one too many words
and the wrong tense

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:53:24am

re: #175 Sir John Barron

Then we sent money to Beto ORourke who sent money to George Soros who funded the Tijuania Caravan that reached the border a month after the election in order to…

//

Open up a Chipolte franchise in a coal mine?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:53:51am

re: #100 lawhawk

There was a great story on Why Republicans Love to Attack Nancy Pelosi which also discussed her history on WAMU yesterday afternoon discussing her history before she moved to SanFran. She grew up in a serious mover-shaker political household.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:55:25am

The Jeffrey Epstein case is bubbling up again, by way of a lawsuit filed by a Miami lawyer on behalf of the girls that were victimized.

A couple of things jump out at me upon reading that devastating article.

Alexander Acosta, who is now Trump’s Secretary of Labor, allowed Epstein to cut a deal that pretty much let him off scot-free - including getting work release, which Florida law withholds from sex offenders, and shielding the victims from knowing anything about the deal.

And one of the girls who Epstein recruited was working at Mar-A-Lago when she met Epstein.

I’m reading this article and thinking about those missing immigrant kids. I want to smash something.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:57:07am

re: #70 Targetpractice

Schumer’s got Donny pretty well treed: Agree to sign a bill that protects Mueller in exchange for less than the $5B you’ve been demanding or cause a partial government shutdown just weeks before Christmas after making it clear you’re the one who’ll be shutting down the government over funding for a very unpopular campaign demand.

this is why you wait…and analyze. everything doesnt ahve to be a split second response

yesterday schumer was weak. a caver and a loser of a negotiator.
because no one did just a little digging past the headline

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:57:36am

re: #138 Belafon

I’m not going to really bother myself with Barron’s future, but the kid whose dad ran Stormfront turned against him.

They weren’t rich. The rich behave differently from normal folk.

Just sayin’.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:58:02am

re: #137 Targetpractice

I maintain my belief that he’s gonna end up resigning before it’s all over. He’ll keep with the Nixon tradition, not in the “For the good of the country” Watergate-style exit, but the bitter “You don’t have Nixon to kick around anymore” style stomping off.

If trump resigns, it will be because I AM TOO GOOD AND YOU DONT DESERVE ME!!11!!!

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gwangung  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:58:58am

Good. Dems (both party officials and rank and file) better pay attention.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:59:06am

re: #179 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There was a great story on Why Republicans Love to Attack Nancy Pelosi which also discussed her history on WAMU yesterday afternoon discussing her history before she moved to SanFran. She grew up in a serious mover-shaker political household.

I’m a little familiar with her father, Thomas D’Alesandro Jr since he was responsible for getting the St. Louis Browns to move to Baltimore and become the Baltimore Orioles when he was Baltimore’s mayor and as I’m a big Orioles fan and history reader, you can fill in the blanks. Nancy’s older brother was mayor of Baltimore too. The right tried to shame Pelosi by pointing out that Mayor D’Alessandro dedicated a Lee statue which is stupid given that Lee’s own direct descendant has called out the statues. Here is something interesting that I didn’t know though: Compare that with Trump’s father.
D’Alesandro was then elected to the 76th Congress and to the four succeeding Congresses, serving from January 3, 1939, until he resigned on May 16, 1947. While in Congress, D’Alesandro strongly supported the Bergson Group, a “political action committee set up to that challenged the Roosevelt Administration’s policies on the Jewish refugee issue during the Holocaust, and later lobbied against British control of Palestine” despite his equally strong support for Roosevelt’s other policies.[2]

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:59:38am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

A little different though. Caitlin, Kanye, and Gretchen were already famous before they were. No one knew who D&S or Not Joe were beforehand. It’s similiar but not quite the same. And frankly I think Kanye was trying to use them as much as they were trying to use him from what I gather.

also d&s are shameless self promoters

joe was in fact just a guy caught on camera talking to obama
then he (and a bunch of other people) turned that into something

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:00:36am

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:00:39am

re: #184 gwangung

Good. Dems (both party officials and rank and file) better pay attention.

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Definitely a more interesting story than here’s a diner in Bumfuck where the people’s jobs still aren’t back but they still support Trump!.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:01:28am

re: #74 Targetpractice

Donny can only pardon for federal crimes, while Paulie violating the terms of the plea agreement means NY and VA can bring his ass down for various state and local crimes. So even if he’s pardoned for the federal crimes, he’s still going to die in jail.

- and they dont even need to prosecute him
- as i read it, he already plead guilty to the state crimes as part of the plea agreement he just violated

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:01:33am

Was looking for some YouTubes and just saw this video of Tim Ryan talking about GM announcement on local Youngstown TV news. This might give some a little feel for Ryan. You can tell he is a bit gruff…he is from the tough Mahoning Valley.

General Motors Lordstown Tim Ryan Response

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:01:41am

re: #186 dangerman

also d&s are shameless self promoters

joe was in fact just a guy caught on camera talking to obama
then he (and a bunch of other people) turned that into something

Joe became a bit enamored with his own 15 minutes of fame though when he thought he could accuse Obama of being Anti-Semitic with no basis, something even Shep Smith called him out on and running for Congress. I don’t think Diamond nor Silk will run for office.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:02:36am

re: #180 makeitstop

The Jeffrey Epstein case is bubbling up again, by way of a lawsuit filed by a Miami lawyer on behalf of the girls that were victimized.

A couple of things jump out at me upon reading that devastating article.

Alexander Acosta, who is now Trump’s Secretary of Labor, allowed Epstein to cut a deal that pretty much let him off scot-free - including getting work release, which Florida law withholds from sex offenders, and shielding the victims from knowing anything about the deal.

And one of the girls who Epstein recruited was working at Mar-A-Lago when she met Epstein.

I’m reading this article and thinking about those missing immigrant kids. I want to smash something.

Keep away from those guitars!

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gwangung  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:03:07am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Definitely a more interesting story than here’s a diner in Bumfuck where the people’s jobs still aren’t back but they still support Trump!.

Yup. But we’ll still get that diet of diner stories….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:03:34am

re: #172 lawhawk

The UK will be worse off no matter how the UK leaves the EU. The only question is how bad it will be (and it will be pretty bad).

I have cancelled my Neflix subscription because foreigners use it. I am going to negotiate separate licensing agreements with all the studios because I have been told that I can get a better deal that way and be sovereign.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:03:42am

re: #78 Targetpractice

And one that even members of his own party are now calling bullshit on, claiming that he’s driving the country towards ruin for something he promised for years was going to be paid by someone else.

he’s always done everything with other people’s money
problem in this case is he cant ipo to the rubes or get a loan he could later default on

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:05:46am

re: #160 makeitstop

Her fake soft voice grates on me even worse than her old man’s.

And her pretty face is like the beautiful frog that will kill you if you touch it.

She’s a scorpion just like everyone else in that family.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:07:57am

re: #184 gwangung

Good. Dems (both party officials and rank and file) better pay attention.

There won’t be a whole lot of pieces about them, but the 2018 election was definitely a story about young black organizers. From the 2017 Alabama special election until now they’ve been in neighborhoods where the parties don’t DIDN’T go, talking to potential voters parties don’t talk to

They were associated with a party. Democrats did go into places they traditionally didn’t. We also saw that here in Texas. And based on the makeup of the House, Democrats are going to have to listen to everyone.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:08:00am

The reality show host is having a baaaaaaaad morning.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:08:58am

re: #198 Dr. Matt

The reality show host is having a baaaaaaaad morning.

And it’s only going to get worse. He’s gonna have a lot of bad mornings going forward as all the noxious shit that was held off because of the midterms now comes out into the open.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:09:08am

re: #106 MsJ

There is no way he can run on it, none. He might try but the whole “Mexico will pay for it!” will kill any mileage he might have gotten out of it.

Imagine a commercial of ALL THE TIMES he changed Mexico Will Pay and “Who will pay for it?” with a responding crowd of MEXICO! He must have said it 50x at his various Nuremberg rallies.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:09:51am

re: #193 gwangung

Yup. But we’ll still get that diet of diner stories….

That’s one scramble I don’t want :). Sorry, sorry. Been eating tons of eggs lately for my diet.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:10:50am

Who is that next to Comey?

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:11:04am

re: #166 ObserverArt

Or, will they all jump in the Kasich bus and start that centrist conservative party in less than a year?

I tell you, that would not surprise me in the least. Kasich could easily take on the mantle of all those never Trumpers and I can see them all saying he is their dream of a workable conservative that can cut across party lines.

Okay, I am now nauseous. I better grab the Pepto!

Thus splitting any republican (or conservative or whatever you want to call them) voters into tiny fractions. There’s the evangelicals - who God only knows which way they will go, likely trump since for whatever reason they see him as the 2nd coming, the small government (ahem) Republicans, who would break for Kasich or whomever else might run, the bible belt southerners who could go for trump’s racism but more likely some other schmuck who’s racist but more in the wink and nod vein…those who don’t like the in-your-face racism that trump and his crew espouse.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:11:43am

re: #117 MsJ

27% of the US population is hopelessly lost. The rest, not so much. So I agree that those 27% will lap up anything Trump says. The rest will not.

in the last four years you havent got mexico to pay a dime…
if you couldnt then, what’s gonna be different now that you’re a lame duck?

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:11:53am

And that’s the reality that Moulton needs to come to terms with: It’s not the white guy party any more.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:12:07am

re: #192 ObserverArt

Keep away from those guitars!

I might grab one and play for a while to calm down, TBH.

This story is really making me angry, because of who turns up in defense of this guy.

Dershowitz. Gerald Lefcourt. NYC DA Cy Vance (who saved the Trump kids from certain indictment in return for $25K). Ken Fucking Starr.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:12:11am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is also a matter of saving face.

Except the leopard already ate it.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:13:31am

re: #196 MsJ

And her pretty face is like the beautiful frog that will kill you if you touch it.

She’s a scorpion just like everyone else in that family.

The face is every bit as fake as the voice. Pre-surgery, she looked like Eric in drag.

(I’m in a mean mood. This Miami Herald story is pissing me right off.)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:13:46am

re: #202 Dr. Matt

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Who is that next to Comey?

Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence, or something.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:14:29am

re: #202 Dr. Matt

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Who is that next to Comey?

Collusion is a Proven Lie, but even if he actually colluded that was OK, too.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:14:48am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which means he might decide to lash out with all the powers at hand unless his own people can keep him in check.

remember the sycophant’s article i posted a couple of days ago?

sessions, mattis, kelly, et al being the adults in the room?
instead of standing up and screaming loud - “this guy is effing dangerous” all they really did was hide his truly awful behavior from the public

and as they are all short timers now, when they’re gone who’s gonna “keep him in check”?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:15:23am

re: #202 Dr. Matt

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Who is that next to Comey?

I see Due Process Week isn’t going very well.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:15:37am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Joe became a bit enamored with his own 15 minutes of fame though when he thought he could accuse Obama of being Anti-Semitic with no basis, something even Shep Smith called him out on and running for Congress. I don’t think Diamond nor Silk will run for office.

D&S couldn’t even run to the corner store.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:16:40am

re: #210 Sir John Barron

Collusion is a Proven Lie, but even if he actually colluded that was OK, too.

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COLLUSONS IZ KNOT @ KRIME!!111!!!!

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:17:29am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic:

I called about that job offer mailing to be a water system instructor for the state, enquiring about my epilepsy and the minimum time required for a license.

They told me the epilepsy could be waived, but the time holding a license cannot. So, I’m still not sure why they sent me the offer. The time I have had a license is on the state license-holder Website.

could we crowd fund the time?
i’ve got some im not using

;-)

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gwangung  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:17:57am

re: #197 Belafon

They were associated with a party. Democrats did go into places they traditionally didn’t. We also saw that here in Texas. And based on the makeup of the House, Democrats are going to have to listen to everyone.

Yup. And folks better be prepared to put concerns of those folks more central to the party. They helped you win; you better help them in return. Politics 101.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:19:34am

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹

OOC, how long have you had that license?

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:22:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:22:24am

re: #211 dangerman

and as they are all short timers now, when they’re gone who’s gonna “keep him in check”?

that was a big “if”…

we can only hope that there are people willing to fall on their swords when the time comes to prevent him from doing seriously irreparable damage

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:23:40am

re: #218 MsJ

“You pardon me, I will lie for you.”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:23:44am

re: #218 MsJ

Such Great Winning

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:23:54am

Interesting story about immigrant mother of child who died while in detention suing U.S. government for 60 million being responsible for her death.

NBC4i - US sued for $60 million after infant in detention later died

HOUSTON (AP) — The mother of a toddler who died weeks after being released from the nation’s largest family detention center filed a legal claim seeking $60 million from the U.S. government for the child’s death.

Attorneys for Yazmin Juarez submitted the claim against multiple agencies Tuesday. Juarez’s 1-year-old daughter, Mariee, died in May.

Juarez’s lawyers said Mariee developed a respiratory illness while she and her mother were detained at the South Texas Family Residential Center in Dilley, Texas. They accused U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement of releasing the pair while Mariee was still sick.

The girl died six weeks later in Philadelphia.

Washington-based law firm Arnold & Porter said it will file a lawsuit if the government doesn’t settle its claim. R. Stanton Jones, a lawyer at the firm, said the government has six months to respond before his firm can file suit.

“Having made the decision to jail small children, the U.S. government is responsible to provide living conditions that are safe, sanitary and appropriate,” Jones said.

ICE and other agencies listed in the claim said they wouldn’t comment on pending litigation.

Jones has also submitted a $40 million claim against the city of Eloy, Arizona, which officially operated the Dilley detention facility under a “pass-through” agreement with ICE and the private prison company CoreCivic. ICE and CoreCivic replaced its agreement with Eloy in September with an arrangement made with the city of Dilley.

Advocates have long complained that medical care in Dilley is substandard and that detaining families damages their mental health. ICE has defended the care it provides at Dilley, saying detainees have access to medical professionals.

“ICE takes very seriously the health, safety and welfare of those in our care,” spokeswoman Jennifer Elzea said in a statement.

Dilley is now being used to detain mothers and children, some of whom were reunited in detention after being separated earlier this year under Trump administration policy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:24:29am

re: #205 Belafon

And that’s the reality that Moulton needs to come to terms with: It’s not the white guy party any more.

Indeed.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:24:48am

re: #148 Targetpractice

The apocryphal quote of “let them eat cake” comes to mind. While the general sentiment (in keeping with the revolutionary mindset) has always been that she was showing disdain for the plight of the poor, there’s a growing argument in modern times that Antoinette simply did not understand the situation and thought the poor lacked bread due to shortages rather than being unable to afford such.

I think of that now whenever I hear statements like these from Ivanka, that she’s not a heartless bitch so much as a pampered princess whose worldview is so closed off from reality that she can’t understand when others tell her the truth. Her Daddy tells her something and she accepts it as fact because she has nobody there telling her that he’s lying his ass off.

turn on a tv (not fox)
read a book
open a newspaper (again…)
use the internet (still…)

as an adult, one ostensibly involved in the highest levels of government, “no one to set her straight” would be an awfully feeble excuse.

that dad has cultivated in-curiousness (incuriosity?) as an artform and therefore so has she, yeah, that’s possible.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:24:50am

re: #220 Belafon

“You pardon me, I will lie for you.”

“Yes we have an agreement to obstruct justice, but that really isn’t a crime in our case because Witch Hunt.”

/

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:25:38am
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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:25:42am

re: #218 MsJ

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Totally the statement of a guy who thinks he’s being railroaded when he had nothing to do with a crime that didn’t happen.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:27:03am

The thing I will never understand is that Chelsea Clinton and ivanka are friends or friendly or whatever.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:28:38am

re: #218 MsJ

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To what?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:29:20am

re: #228 MsJ

The thing I will never understand is that Chelsea Clinton and ivanka are friends or friendly or whatever.

Chelsea seems like a pretty easy going person so I guess she puts up with more bullshit than most people do. But yeah I don’t either.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:29:30am
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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:30:12am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Dunno. I won’t read anything from the DC. :-D

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:31:26am

re: #228 MsJ

I’d give Chelsea more credit then Hot Daughter. I think that “Friendship” sailed a long time ago. Tolerated is prolly more the word at this point if they found themselves in the same room.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:31:31am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Or that the angry HRC supporters would support McCain over Obama because McCain picked Palin as his running mate. Yeah and I hear Bloomberg may run too. Gah. Just because Trump’s a failure doesn’t mean the rest of the right is really offering anything better.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:34:52am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

I’d give Chelsea more credit then Hot Daughter. I think that “Friendship” sailed a long time ago. Tolerated is prolly more the word at this point if they found themselves in the same room.

After all the shit the trumps said and did against Hillary, not to mention the ongoing Lock Her Up, if I was Chelsea I’d dump a bowl of punch over ivanka’s head.

Hopefully while she is wearing white.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:36:20am

re: #134 lawhawk

I know everyone’s upset about Mississippi’s special election outcome, but let’s also note that over the past few elections, the GOP has consistently won by double digits.

2018- Wicker won 58-39 (a 19 point margin).
2014 - Cochrane won 59-38 (21 point margin).
2012 - Wicker won 57-40 (17 point margin).
2008 - Cochrane won 61-39 (22 point margin).

Last night, Espy lost 54-46, meaning that Hyde-Smith won by… 8 points.

That’s in a state that went hard for Trump. 58-40 (18 points).

This means in suburban areas you can flip some (R) to (D). Happened here.

The ex-Jefferson County (AL) DA yesterday [Mike Anderton - (R)] said “I was fired”. Dude doesn’t get how elections work.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:36:23am

You know, in a week when there are legal analysts on both sides of the aisle suggesting that Paul Manafort might have used his own joint defense agreement with Trump to feed him info on the investigation, info that may have been a bunch of lies to catch Don in a perjury trap, coming out to say you have the same without following it with “Which I am terminating effective immediately” is pretty much telling prosecutors that any plea deal they may make with you won’t be worth the paper it’s written on.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:37:06am

Make fun of Trump? No gig for you!

Although, I never gave much thought to the Trump/Dennis the Menace resemblance. Should result in some interesting Photoshops…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:38:13am

re: #226 MsJ

….terrible Gang of Angry Democrats. Look at their past, and look where they come from. The now $30,000,000 Witch Hunt continues and they’ve got nothing but ruined lives. Where is the Server? Let these terrible people go back to the Clinton Foundation and “Justice” Department!

— Donald J. Trump

It always helps to smear the department you’re asking to investigate and prosecute your political opponents.

/

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:39:33am

re: #238 makeitstop

Make fun of Trump? No gig for you!

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Although, I never gave much thought to the Trump/Dennis the Menace resemblance. Should result in some interesting Photoshops…

Refuse to comment on the culture of racism and hatred that exists in the agency you wish to head? Not enough to kill your nomination.

Make fun of the guy who nominated you? Oh yeah, that’s gonna cost ya.

Oy vey.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:39:38am

re: #197 Belafon

They were associated with a party. Democrats did go into places they traditionally didn’t. We also saw that here in Texas. And based on the makeup of the House, Democrats are going to have to listen to everyone.

that is the winning formula
‘liberty and justice for all”
which you cant promote if you dont talk to and listen to “all”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:39:56am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

I’d give Chelsea more credit then Hot Daughter. I think that “Friendship” sailed a long time ago. Tolerated is prolly more the word at this point if they found themselves in the same room.

Chelsea is really quite intelligent. I’ve never been sold by the idea Ivanka is smart at all.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:40:36am

How about some Lizard Likes and Retweets for Josh. I think it will make his day.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:40:52am

re: #205 Belafon

And that’s the reality that Moulton needs to come to terms with: It’s not the white guy party country any more.

Fixed that for you.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:41:31am

re: #238 makeitstop

Make fun of Trump? No gig for you!

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Although, I never gave much thought to the Trump/Dennis the Menace resemblance. Should result in some interesting Photoshops…

I would love to see what images these “concerned” ICE Union members shared of Clinton and Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:42:08am

re: #241 dangerman

that is the winning formula
‘liberty and justice for all”
which you cant promote if you dont talk to and listen to “all”

Exactly. None of this, these issues are “distractions” crap that Bernie does.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:42:38am

re: #217 MsJ

OOC, how long have you had that license?

1.5 years.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:43:53am

re: #228 MsJ

The thing I will never understand is that Chelsea Clinton and ivanka are friends or friendly or whatever.

Not sure how their relationship stands these days, but it’s true: Chelsea Ivanka, and Georgina Bloomberg (Mayor Mike’s daughter) used to be the Three Amigas around NY - they always hung out together,, and were always said to be genuine friends, along with their families.
But I’m sure that’s all gone to shit after 2016: the Trump Touch strikes again.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:45:00am

re: #244 BlueSpotinAL

Fixed that for you.

I look back at the 2016 primary and I really feel it woke me up to the fact that sexism is prevalent throughout the spectrum. Now I think the left does a better job at managing it than the right and libertarians do but you can’t tell me we don’t have it on our side given how Schumer cruised to becoming Senate leader again with no questions asked and Pelosi’s leadership is challenged even though she GAINED 40 seats and from what I’ve read played a role in recruiting the candidates.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:45:15am

I shouldn’t love this thread but I do.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:45:27am

Just in case you think I was joking about the Jefferson County DA:
abc3340.com

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:45:45am

re: #222 ObserverArt

Interesting story about immigrant mother of child who died while in detention suing U.S. government for 60 million being responsible for her death.

NBC4i - US sued for $60 million after infant in detention later died

Advocates have long complained that medical care in Dilley is substandard and that detaining families damages their mental health. ICE has defended the care it provides at Dilley, saying detainees have access to medical professionals.

what a weaselly worded statement

access doesnt mean adequate, complete or comprehensive
and medical professionals doesnt even mean doctors, let alone specialists

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:46:25am

re: #248 Jay C

Not sure how their relationship stands these days, but it’s true: Chelsea Ivanka, and Georgina Bloomberg (Mayor Mike’s daughter) used to be the Three Amigas around NY - they always hung out together,, and were always said to be genuine friends, along with their families.
But I’m sure that’s all gone to shit after 2016: the Trump Touch strikes again.

I didn’t even know Bloomberg had a daughter. He’s said to be possibly be running in 2020. I hope not. He’s not a bad person or anything like that but he’s not the direction the left needs to go in and neitehr is Bernie for that matter. We need someone who gets not only what it’s like to be less well off in America but someone who gets what it’s like to not to be the majority IMO.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:47:05am

re: #226 MsJ

🎶It’s beginning to look a lot like prison
Everywhere you go
You’re looking at five to ten
There’s justice once again
With indictments and subpoenas all you know🎶

i’m dreaming of an indictment christmas….

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:47:35am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹

1.5 years.

How long did you apprentice?

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:48:36am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

I’d give Chelsea more credit then Hot Daughter. I think that “Friendship” sailed a long time ago. Tolerated is prolly more the word at this point if they found themselves in the same room.

Chelsea Clinton is not Ted Cruz

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:50:03am

re: #184 gwangung

“There won’t be a whole lot of pieces about them, but the 2018 election was definitely a story about young black organizers. From the 2017 Alabama special election until now they’ve been in neighborhoods where the parties don’t go, talking to potential voters parties don’t talk to”

If he had been in Alabama neighborhoods where parties don’t go and don’t talk, he’d have seen my white ass helping a lot of old ladies put up Doug Jones yard signs.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:50:22am

re: #239 Sir John Barron

re: #226 MsJ

….terrible Gang of Angry Democrats. Look at their past, and look where they come from. The now $30,000,000 Witch Hunt continues and they’ve got nothing but ruined lives. Where is the Server? Let these terrible people go back to the Clinton Foundation and “Justice” Department!

— Donald J. Trump

It always helps to smear the department you’re asking to investigate and prosecute your political opponents.

From the context, it sounds like The Idiot is still harping on whatever “crooked deal” Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton cooked up at the airport: and got the “DoJ” to connive in/cover up.
IOW, the usual boilerplate drivel.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:50:26am
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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:51:15am

re: #238 makeitstop

Make fun of Trump? No gig for you!

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Although, I never gave much thought to the Trump/Dennis the Menace resemblance. Should result in some interesting Photoshops…

and yet fucking kavanaugh is on the fucking supreme fucking court

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:51:53am

re: #259 MsJ

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It’s good to know that we didn’t elect an emotionally unstable woman to the presidency, isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:52:11am

I dunno, it sounds contradictory but I think we need what I’d call an inclusive populism. Something that reminds us of what DM says so well about “liberty and justice for all.” Bernie frankly can be just as divisive as Trump can be. I’m no great admirer of how Wall Street is run as well as being staunchly pro-union though more pro free trade than I am anti and it does need regulated but not every person who works for Wall Street is a scumbag and not every blue collar worker is a poor soul whose prejudices need to be ignored.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:53:55am

re: #259 MsJ

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Surprised Germany is so low given how popular Merkel has been.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:54:59am

re: #252 dangerman

what a weaselly worded statement

access doesnt mean adequate, complete or comprehensive
and medical professionals doesnt even mean doctors, let alone specialists

And it is the same wording the Republican use about health insurance about preexisting conditions.

You have access to health insurance…we guarantee that. We can’t guarantee you can afford it, but hey…what do you want us to do?

Unlike the ACA where it was stated the insurance companies cannot charge you more for those preexisting conditions.

Conclusion: Republicans are scum and they use weasel words to sound good to the rubes that are not smart enough to look at those words and figure out what they really mean.

The rubes vote for them…we all get screwed.

Fuck the Republicans and fuck the rubes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:55:01am

re: #261 Targetpractice

It’s good to know that we didn’t elect an emotionally unstable woman to the presidency, isn’t it?

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Yeah I love that was a lot of the argument against HRC and any woman and her two chief opponents this past election were emotionally unstable jerks. And yeah I put Bernie there too. I know the media can be assholes and crass sometimes but he can be pretty childish too dealing with the media criticism.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:55:15am

re: #257 Decatur Deb

“There won’t be a whole lot of pieces about them, but the 2018 election was definitely a story about young black organizers. From the 2017 Alabama special election until now they’ve been in neighborhoods where the parties don’t go, talking to potential voters parties don’t talk to”

If he had been in neighborhoods where parties don’t go and don’t talk, he’d have seen my white ass helping a lot of old ladies put up Doug Jones yard signs.

Speaking of yard signs, I’ve noticed there’s still a few “Scott Taylor ‘18” campaign signs sitting out in people’s yards even now, almost a month since the elections and his election night concession speech. It may simply be people too lazy to go out and toss the damn things in the trash, but I suspect others are bitter enders who cannot accept that they lost.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:57:17am

re: #266 Targetpractice

Speaking of yard signs, I’ve noticed there’s still a few “Scott Taylor ‘18” campaign signs sitting out in people’s yards even now, almost a month since the elections and his election night concession speech. It may simply be people too lazy to go out and toss the damn things in the trash, but I suspect others are bitter enders who cannot accept that they lost.

Yeah. My Dem friend has a neighbor-thing going with a guy who keeps up his Trump/Pence sign.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:57:33am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

Exactly. None of this, these issues are “distractions” crap that Bernie does.

you are elected by all the people who participate (and even those who choose not to)

you either represent
- all the country
- all of your state
- or all your district
- all of your town
- all of your whatever

or you’re a republican

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:59:13am

re: #268 dangerman

you are elected by all the people who participate (and even those who choose not to)

you either represent
- all the country
- all of your state
- or all your district
- all of your town
- all of your whatever

or you’re a republican

Exactly. I love what Danica Roem, the transwoman we elected here to the VA House of Delegates last fall said when asked about her then former opponent who had disparaged her for being Trans, “Well he (Bob Marshall) is my constituent now so I won’t badmouth him.” And if any of you know anything about Bob Marshall and how nasty he is to LGBT people, that kind of sentiment was incredible.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:59:55am

re: #266 Targetpractice

Speaking of yard signs, I’ve noticed there’s still a few “Scott Taylor ‘18” campaign signs sitting out in people’s yards even now, almost a month since the elections and his election night concession speech. It may simply be people too lazy to go out and toss the damn things in the trash, but I suspect others are bitter enders who cannot accept that they lost.

My brother and I spotted a Reagan-Mondale 84 sticker on a car one day but we figured it was just a hyper Reagan fan since the car was definitely newer than that.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:01:18am

Instead of all that [the “daily” lieathon], MSNBC carried segments on the following topics: Trump’s trade wars; the state of the auto industry, in light of GM’s announced plant closings; the stock market and the welfare of the U.S. worker; a deadly attack on U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan; a Guardian report that Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, had met with Julian Assange; and the U.S. Senate election in Mississippi. After the press briefing concluded, MSNBC plowed ahead with more on GM, including an interview with Hamtramck, Mich., Mayor Karen Majewski, a segment on the Mueller investigation, a politics roundup, a mention of “giving Tuesday.”

Look what you can accomplish when you decline to hand over your airwaves to unreliable narrators.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:02:50am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:03:16am

What I want to say is a candidate who talks proudly of our diversity. How yes we do have differences but our differences is what has made us great. It’s a country where children and grandchildren of the Great Migration played Little League or Youth Basketball with people whose family have been in the area for a long time or were transplants like mine. A country where people of European descent can break bread at a family owned Thai or Afghan restaurant. A country where we can learn about our neighbors’ cultural traditions. When my one brother was a boy, one of his classmates brought in latkes to celebrate Hannukah and he really enjoyed them. Don’t stick to your own kind. Acknowledge everyone is your kind.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:04:03am

re: #272 Dave In Austin

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No humility at all jst like her dumb old Dad.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:04:50am

re: #264 ObserverArt

And it is the same wording the Republican use about health insurance about preexisting conditions.

You have access to health insurance…we guarantee that. We can’t guarantee you can afford it, but hey…what do you want us to do?

Unlike the ACA where it was stated the insurance companies cannot charge you more for those preexisting conditions.

Conclusion: Republicans are scum and they use weasel words to sound good to the rubes that are not smart enough to look at those words and figure out what they really mean.

The rubes vote for them…we all get screwed.

Fuck the Republicans and fuck the rubes.

spot on
exactly what i was thinking when i wrote it.

and i think i read recently they’re getting more nasty with pre-existing
- somtheing about yeah these new policies will(!) cover you if you have a pre-existing condition
- but they wont pay for any of your pre-existing condition related services

its pure evil

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:05:26am

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Ricks comments……

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:06:17am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Yeah I love that was a lot of the argument against HRC and any woman and her two chief opponents this past election were emotionally unstable jerks. And yeah I put Bernie there too. I know the media can be assholes and crass sometimes but he can be pretty childish too dealing with the media criticism.

im at the point where bernie is best left
- unmentioned
- un-referred to
- un-talked about

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:06:39am

re: #276 Dave In Austin

Ricks comments……

Yeah tehy seem pretty spot on to me.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:07:48am

re: #277 dangerman

im at the point where bernie is best left
- unmentioned
- un-referred to
- un-talked about

I don’t think he can be ignored though. I just want him to lose some of that new car shine he has and for people to realize there are other people not only more liberal than him but more effective too and are better people all around.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:09:59am
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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:10:58am

re: #272 Dave In Austin

When I am President this kind of new age word vomit will lead to public whippings.

“Wilson 2020: Cruel, But Just.”

Ahem…

“Wilson 2020: Cruel, And Just.”

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garzooma  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:13:10am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

My brother and I spotted a Reagan-Mondale 84 sticker on a car …

Reagan-Mondale?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:16:52am

re: #226 MsJ

Fat Hitler needs a diaper change.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:17:41am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Surprised Germany is so low given how popular Merkel has been.

Germany is still terribly under-represented when it comes to women in business and politics, despite Merkel.

For that, women still have an iron grip over all aspects of household, relationship and family politics…

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:19:01am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

I don’t think he can be ignored though. I just want him to lose some of that new car shine he has and for people to realize there are other people not only more liberal than him but more effective too and are better people all around.

i think he can be
- sure he can run and all…then i’ll see him defeated because he’s not any kind of future
- but before that…like now…

- what havent i heard? he’s not saying anything new
- he’s definitely not with the direction where things are going
- he is not a team player - hell, he’s not even on the team
- he does not speak for me or the party i just re-registered for (D)

yeah, he’s been a senator for a long time who hasnt really done much with it

he’s just a loud senator….not much of a thing

now if he were to register as a dem, i’d show him some deference
- and then still insist he’s not our future

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:20:57am

re: #282 garzooma

Reagan-Mondale?

Reagan-Bush. D’oh. Sorry haven’t had any caffeine all day.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:21:37am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany is still terribly under-represented when it comes to women in business and politics, despite Merkel.

For that, women still have an iron grip over all aspects of household, relationship and family politics…

Ahh I didn’t know that but I thought that having a woman at the top level for some time now would have alleviated some concerns.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:24:18am

re: #259 MsJ

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Those 45% of American men that are uncomfortable with a female president are the same jerks that voted for Trump.

I guess they are a given. For now.

I would bet a lot of them are White men…say 85%.

So, to me they really wouldn’t be in the way of a Democratic woman becoming president.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:25:05am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Ahh I didn’t know that but I thought that having a woman at the top level for some time now would have alleviated some concerns.

Women are fairly well represented in politics, but not as much in business at any executive level. They tried to impose a 30% female quota in corporate boardrooms but it did not go over well.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:25:38am

re: #288 ObserverArt

Those 45% of American men that are uncomfortable with a female president are the same jerks that voted for Trump.

I guess they are a given. For now.

I would bet a lot of them are White men…say 85%.

So, to me they really wouldn’t be in the way of a Democratic woman becoming president.

I was disappointed too that the survey didn’t break it down racially and dare I say it by education level too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:25:51am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Women are fairly well represented in politics, but not as much in business at any executive level. They tried to impose a 30% female quota in corporate boardrooms but it did not go over well.

Ahhh okay.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:31:33am

re: #289 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

An update on a story from November 8.
Man accused of impersonating Homeland Security officer attempts arrest of former city councilman.
Grand jury indicts man for impersonating a public servant

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Before I clicked on the link, I guessed to myself that this would be:
1. Flori-duh
2. Texas
3. California

Second place isn’t bad…..

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:32:15am

re: #289 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

An update on a story from November 8.
Man accused of impersonating Homeland Security officer attempts arrest of former city councilman.
Grand jury indicts man for impersonating a public servant

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It’s spelled just like it’s pronounced.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:35:42am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

My brother and I spotted a Reagan-Mondale 84 sticker on a car one day but we figured it was just a hyper Reagan fan since the car was definitely newer than that.

Reagan-Bush because I’m an an idiot and can’t edit.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:37:15am

Gas is $1.93 here. Yesterday we paid $2.59 in Pensacola.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:39:04am

re: #289 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

He looks like a totally stable individual.

//

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:42:38am

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

He looks like a totally stable individual.

//

Preparing the sometimes-effective “Dipshit Defense”.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:45:20am

re: #228 MsJ

The thing I will never understand is that Chelsea Clinton and ivanka are friends or friendly or whatever.

Ex-friends.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:46:22am

re: #299 sagehen

Ex-friends.

They have two things in common.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:46:26am

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

He looks like a totally stable individual.

//

This Wojtowicz doesn’t have much of an online footprint but the ever-reliable (/) Lubbock grapevine has it that he is a serious tin-foiler. It’s confirmed that he sued the county for “inhuman treatment” while he was an inmate in 2017. The suit was dismissed. He is also confirmed to have registered a business called “Drone Data.” What they do, if anything, has not been revealed.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:48:12am

re: #294 Decatur Deb

It’s spelled just like it’s pronounced.

barney miller reference?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:51:02am

re: #302 dangerman

barney miller reference?

Yep, though the spelling is a little off, the pronounciation is really close.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:52:43am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:54:09am

re: #304 MsJ

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And my libertarian friends who hate Trump wonder why I try to argue that skepticism of business and capitalism is as merited of government.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:55:49am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

I didn’t even know Bloomberg had a daughter. He’s said to be possibly be running in 2020. I hope not. He’s not a bad person or anything like that but he’s not the direction the left needs to go in and neitehr is Bernie for that matter. We need someone who gets not only what it’s like to be less well off in America but someone who gets what it’s like to not to be the majority IMO.

Georgina Bloomberg and Jessica Springsteen are champion show-jumpers (or maybe I should say… riders of champion horses). It’s a super-expensive sport, and somewhat unfair that the riders (who also put up the money) get all the credit when it’s really the trainers and horses whose talents deserve the acclaim, but so it goes.

Part of what makes it so expensive (besides that just buying the horse in the first place is six figures minimum, some of the yearlings from champion lineage go for seven figures at auction) — is that the horse needs 5 or 6 years of training before they can even qualify for their first competition. They need a lot of space, the rider has to spend 5 or 6 hours every day with the animal so people who need to earn a living will never be able to do it, and that saying “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”? They eat a LOT. And none of it’s budget-price.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:57:28am

re: #306 sagehen

Georgina Bloomberg and Jessica Springsteen are champion show-jumpers (or maybe I should say… riders of champion horses). It’s a super-expensive sport, and somewhat unfair that the riders (who also put up the money) get all the credit when it’s really the trainers and horses whose talents deserve the acclaim, but so it goes.

Part of what makes it so expensive (besides that just buying the horse in the first place is six figures minimum, some of the yearlings from champion lineage go for seven figures at auction) — is that the horse needs 5 or 6 years of training before they can even qualify for their first competition. They need a lot of space, the rider has to spend 5 or 6 hours every day with the animal so people who need to earn a living will never be able to do it, and that saying “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”? They eat a LOT. And none of it’s budget-price.

Didn’t know that. My Dad’s parents raised horses in their ertirment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:01:46am

re: #306 sagehen

Georgina Bloomberg and Jessica Springsteen are champion show-jumpers (or maybe I should say… riders of champion horses). It’s a super-expensive sport, and somewhat unfair that the riders (who also put up the money) get all the credit when it’s really the trainers and horses whose talents deserve the acclaim, but so it goes.

I recall that the Romneys had an Olympic horse as well.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:01:51am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany is still terribly under-represented when it comes to women in business and politics, despite Merkel.

For that, women still have an iron grip over all aspects of household, relationship and family politics…

So… like orthodox Jews then?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:03:28am

re: #309 sagehen

So… like orthodox Jews then?

Like in a lot of cultures where women are under-represented in public life.

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Weaselone  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:05:32am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall that the Romneys had an Olympic horse as well.

Good old Rafalca. Technically, so did US tax payers as we subsidized him through tax policy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:06:53am

re: #311 Weaselone

Good old Rafalca. Technically, so did US tax payers as we subsidized him through tax policy.

Hey, Mitt, we helped build that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:07:16am

re: #311 Weaselone

Good old Rafalca. Technically, so did US tax payers as we subsidized him through tax policy.

corporations are people too, my friend…

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:08:27am

re: #306 sagehen

Jessica Springsteen

Bruce’s daughter?

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:10:20am

re: #314 makeitstop

Bruce’s daughter?

yes.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:10:31am

re: #306 sagehen

Georgina Bloomberg and Jessica Springsteen are champion show-jumpers (or maybe I should say… riders of champion horses). It’s a super-expensive sport, and somewhat unfair that the riders (who also put up the money) get all the credit when it’s really the trainers and horses whose talents deserve the acclaim, but so it goes.

Part of what makes it so expensive (besides that just buying the horse in the first place is six figures minimum, some of the yearlings from champion lineage go for seven figures at auction) — is that the horse needs 5 or 6 years of training before they can even qualify for their first competition. They need a lot of space, the rider has to spend 5 or 6 hours every day with the animal so people who need to earn a living will never be able to do it, and that saying “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”? They eat a LOT. And none of it’s budget-price.

Georgina can afford to keep the ponies happy: Dad is said to be worth somewhere north of $50 Billion: and unlike a certain President we all (unfortunately) know, it’s all in fairly solid assets.

Mayor Mike once noted that he gives away - every year - more than Donald Trump is worth.*

*dollars, not moral values

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Weaselone  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:12:56am

re: #316 Jay C

Georgina can afford to keep the ponies happy: Dad is said to be worth somewhere north of $50 Billion: and unlike a certain President we all (unfortunately) know, it’s all in fairly solid assets.

Mayor Mike once noted that he gives away - every year - more than Donald Trump is worth.*

*dollars, not moral values

I’m assuming that the disparity would be greater in moral values than it is in dollars, although I suppose if you disregarded the sign and just compared the magnitude things would be a bit closer.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:16:37am

re: #316 Jay C

Bloomberg announced a gift of $1.8 billion plus to Johns Hopkins….

Trump is supposedly worth.. $3 billion (nearly all of it is inherited wealth via the real estate offerings).

Bloomberg donated an amount equal to 2/3 of Trump’s supposed net worth, and Bloomberg has another $50 billion to spare.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:17:20am

re: #316 Jay C

Georgina can afford to keep the ponies happy: Dad is said to be worth somewhere north of $50 Billion: and unlike a certain President we all (unfortunately) know, it’s all in fairly solid assets.

Mayor Mike once noted that he gives away - every year - more than Donald Trump is worth.*

*dollars, not moral values

he’s given more than $1.1B to Johns Hopkins over the last 40 years and just gave another $1.8B “to create a fund that would help low-income and moderate-income students attend without having to worry about the cost”

not some self named, self dealing grifting fake foundation

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:28:39am

a good perspective:

Nathan Gonzalez: “After two years of fighting, spending, and campaigning, and one party being handed a very favorable map, the U.S. Senate will be one seat different at the beginning of the 116th Congress than it was at the beginning of the 115th Congress. Republicans gained two Senate seats in the November elections, but lost the Alabama race in the Dec. 2017 special election. So the net change is minimal. The GOP majority shifted from 52-48 in Jan. 2017 to 53-47 in Jan. 2019.”

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:28:55am

Does this count?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:29:27am
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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:29:59am

re: #322 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:30:30am
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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:34:26am

re: #202 Dr. Matt

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Who is that next to Comey?

i think this tweet didnt get enough attention:

The President of the United States* retweeted an image with 2 former US Presidents, 2 former US AGs and his own Deputy Attorney General behind bars for “treason”.

Yes this really did just happen.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:35:52am
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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:36:40am

SMFH

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:37:23am

re: #326 Charles Johnson

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He’s such a pathetic little hack.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:38:23am

re: #327 MsJ

SMFH

[Embedded content]

I have no idea. I understood Gabby Johnson’s authentic frontier gibberish but not this.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:38:27am

re: #318 lawhawk

Bloomberg announced a gift of $1.8 billion plus to Johns Hopkins….

Trump is supposedly worth.. $3 billion (nearly all of it is inherited wealth via the real estate offerings).

Bloomberg donated an amount equal to 2/3 of Trump’s supposed net worth, and Bloomberg has another $50 billion to spare.

I think “supposedly” is the important word here: AFAICT, Trump’s gimcrack “empire” has been so highly-leveraged (the parts that haven’t been sold off, that is), and consisting of so much vapor, that he would be lucky to have been able to rake off as much as $1B in cash or liquid assets.
Assuming he isn’t in the hole anyway…

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:38:55am

re: #327 MsJ

No one knows what the hell he’s saying, and his supporters will treat it as gospel, even though when pressed none of them will know what the fuck he’s talking about.

It’s word salad babble. It has absolutely no meaning or relationship to reality.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:41:22am

re: #330 Jay C

Oh, I completely agree. Over the past 20 years, he’s gone from building his own projects to slapping his name on stuff other people build and manage. Buildings he owns are far more limited - mostly in NYC - from Trump Tower and Trump Village (middle class apartments). His so-called luxury offerings like Trump tower are long in the tooth and no longer prized addresses especially when billionaire’s row has 30-50 million dollar condos available with views from over 1,000 feet up in the sky.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:41:35am

All of this is just a couple weeks road bump in the GOP objective of reshaping the judiciary. Come January 3rd there is no impediment to anyone Trump nominates.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:42:24am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:42:48am

re: #334 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Coward

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:46:38am

re: #327 MsJ

SMFH

Serious question: Does anybody know what this means?

yes

its twaddle
pure junk bulkshit masquerading as intelligence, hoping nobody notices it’s bullshit

this is not the performance of a man who is at the height of his game
or even knows where the arena is and that there’s a game going on

this morning electoral-vote.com said “The cheese may be slipping off the cracker”

imo that assumes there was cheese there to begin with. there wasnt.

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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:48:23am

(though I have to wonder why he’d bother voting “yes” now but “no” later)

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:50:03am

re: #332 lawhawk

Oh, I completely agree. Over the past 20 years, he’s gone from building his own projects to slapping his name on stuff other people build and manage. Buildings he owns are far more limited - mostly in NYC - from Trump Tower and Trump Village (middle class apartments). His so-called luxury offerings like Trump tower are long in the tooth and no longer prized addresses especially when billionaire’s row has 30-50 million dollar condos available with views from over 1,000 feet up in the sky.

And those new, pricey condos on on “billionaire’s row” probably have another advantage their RE agents can pitch: “Unlikely to be Subject of State or Federal Investigation” - almost as attractive as “wood-burning fireplace”…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:55:14am

re: #337 Interesting Times

(though I have to wonder why he’d bother voting “yes” now but “no” later)

I recall McCain doing a similar thing with ACA repeal or the like…

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:55:18am

re: #338 Jay C

Financial companies are required to report on deals unless they’re all cash-deals, in which case there’s little oversight. Those billionaire row deals are often all cash. Dealings with Trumpworld are now getting scrutiny because of all the self-dealing and foreign influence being investigated by state, local, and Mueller.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:55:18am
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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:55:35am

re: #250 MsJ

I shouldn’t love this thread but I do.

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from that thread:

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mmmirele  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:58:24am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall that the Romneys had an Olympic horse as well.

My sister’s brother-in-law has a daughter who is also one of those champion horse riders. You gotta be rich to own one. Her father is very wealthy and very annoying. He endowed a chair at the land grant university he graduated from. He also owns the penthouse of a hotel near the football stadium of said land grant university. Of course, you know who the entire family voted for, which is why I’m persona non grata. *shrug*

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:02:39am

re: #342 retired cynic

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:03:23am

re: #341 makeitstop

Whoa.

Whoa.

Trump drew a line in the sand.

He had better hope Mueller doesn’t have something that contradicts these denials or that’s all she wrote.

— Bradley P. Moss

I doubt it. We already know he colluded and lies continually.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:03:54am

re: #337 Interesting Times

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(though I have to wonder why he’d bother voting “yes” now but “no” later)

It’s not unusual.
look at the ACA repeal. McCain and others voted to end debate before voting No.
It now also will force Flake to show if he’s serious. Will he vote no again? Voting No to end debate still left Farr nominated, with a chance of ultimately being approved. Now it’s “put up or shut up” for Flake

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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:05:53am

“Reporters” like the ones she’s talking about are yet another reason we can’t have nice things -_-

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:06:53am

re: #345 Sir John Barron

Trump’s likely to hang Junior out to dry, and then turn around and pardon his sorry ass.

Junior’s already indicated that dad knew.

Trump’s already got so many inconsistencies in his story that his latest fabrications aren’t likely to make it any better for him, and are likely to make it far worse.

His lawyers know this. That’s why they were trying to avoid a deposition, where Mueller’s team could nail him for lying every which way to Moscow and back.

But they can’t help that their client lies about everything and doesn’t listen to advice. Mueller knows this too. He also has the receipts for everything (he knows answers before you ask questions, because that’s what good prosecutors are supposed to do). Good defense lawyers are supposed to do the same, but Trump’s team is a band of misfits and have an egotistical liar as a client who thinks he knows better than everyone else in the room.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:10:08am

re: #347 Interesting Times

Tweets like this are MISLEADING. People should keep calling their Senators for a NO vote on the final.

People who rely on FB or Twitter for news deserve to be misled…

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:10:46am
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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:10:56am

re: #333 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

All of this is just a couple weeks road bump in the GOP objective of reshaping the judiciary. Come January 3rd there is no impediment to anyone Trump nominates.

Why?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:12:15am

re: #350 makeitstop

Rubio and Lindsay are probably so jealous that Lee gets the chance to defend Dear Leader.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:12:18am

re: #337 Interesting Times

(though I have to wonder why he’d bother voting “yes” now but “no” later)

If he blocks closure, then it can be brought up again. If he says no on the final vote, that’s it for the nominee.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:14:11am

re: #353 Belafon

If he blocks cloture, then it can be brought up again. If he says no on the final vote, that’s it for the nominee.

Until the next session.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:15:58am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:16:19am

re: #351 Belafon

Why?

Because come January 3rd the Republicans control 53 votes in the senate.
You think that they can get 4 No votes out of those for judicial nominees, when getting 2 now is practically insurmountable?

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:19:56am
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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:20:39am

re: #357 lawhawk

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“I’m all you got, bitches. The line to kiss my ass starts forming right now.”

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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:21:00am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People who rely on FB or Twitter for news deserve to be misled…

Then again, it’s also the classic garbage-in, garbage-out scenario. Your feed is only as good as the people you follow:

Shot:

Chaser:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:23:13am

re: #359 Interesting Times

Then again, it’s also the classic garbage-in, garbage-out scenario. Your feed is only as good as the people you follow:

Shot:

Twitter and FB can be sources of information on current events from locations where news reporters are slow to follow up, especially in crisis situations.

But in general, get your news from a reliable source and leave Twitter and FB for news from and about your homies and where they be hangin’

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:25:15am

Poliquin (R-ME) still not happy with his “ranked ballot” loss

Meanwhile, Comrade Rohrabacher appears to be fine with retiring to his dacha

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:26:00am

re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Twitter and FB can be sources of information on current events from locations where news reporters are slow to follow up, especially in crisis situations.

But in general, get your news from a reliable source and leave Twitter and FB for news from and about your homies and where they be hangin’

The last place I look for news is FB. In fact, I never go to FB for news. Why? Because I know where to find better sources. Breaking news? I try to find the news source closest to where it’s happening. Go direct to local news outlets, like when there are mass shootings in places like San Bernardino or Aurora or Las Vegas. Then look for their twitter feeds.

It’s as though there’s a progression for where/how to get reliable info. FB is at the ass end of that space.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:28:31am

re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Twitter and FB can be sources of information on current events from locations where news reporters are slow to follow up, especially in crisis situations.

But in general, get your news from a reliable source and leave Twitter and FB for news from and about your homies and where they be hangin’

It would be nice if it were that way. Just like, when I was a kid, the people around me got most of their news through gossip rather than the TV and newspaper.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:29:28am

re: #362 lawhawk

The last place I look for news is FB. In fact, I never go to FB for news. Why? Because I know where to find better sources. …
It’s as though there’s a progression for where/how to get reliable info. FB is at the ass end of that space.

I still recall my GF showing me an article from her FB feed with the title “Great Barrier Reef Declared Dead”

Even a cursory reading of the article indicated that was not the case at all.

FB is for news about what your friends had for lunch or cute kid/animal pics & videos, bands playing in town, etc.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:30:27am

RIP

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:31:25am
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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:31:33am
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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:33:04am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hopefully Harley Rouda won’t find the office in the same condition as other places Rohrabacher inhabits. o_O

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Skip Intro  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:34:02am

re: #137 Targetpractice

I maintain my belief that he’s gonna end up resigning before it’s all over. He’ll keep with the Nixon tradition, not in the “For the good of the country” Watergate-style exit, but the bitter “You don’t have Nixon to kick around anymore” style stomping off.

That is never going to happen.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:38:26am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2018 • 1:14:34pm

re: #289 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

An update on a story from November 8.
Man accused of impersonating Homeland Security officer attempts arrest of former city councilman.
Grand jury indicts man for impersonating a public servant

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Pic looks like he’s getting a prostate exam.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 28, 2018 • 3:18:58pm

re: #332 lawhawk

Oh, I completely agree. Over the past 20 years, he’s gone from building his own projects to slapping his name on stuff other people build and manage. Buildings he owns are far more limited - mostly in NYC - from Trump Tower and Trump Village (middle class apartments). His so-called luxury offerings like Trump tower are long in the tooth and no longer prized addresses especially when billionaire’s row has 30-50 million dollar condos available with views from over 1,000 feet up in the sky.

The one advantage of buying a unit in Trump Tower: the view is not spoiled by having to look out at Trump Tower.


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How Smooth Jazz Took Over the ’90s You should give smooth jazz a chance. Subscribe to our channel! goo.gl Smooth jazz has gotten a bad rap for decades. It’s often associated with background music for elevators or the soundtrack at the dentist office. Smooth jazz is ...
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Feds Target Butina’s GOP Boyfriend as Foreign Agent Paul Erickson, a longtime Republican politico whose Russian girlfriend is in jail on charges she acted as a covert foreign agent, has been informed that he may face similar accusations. The Daily Beast reviewed a so-called “target letter” that ...
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Police: Charge Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu With Bribery in Telecom Case - Israel News - Haaretz.com The police and Israel Securities Authority on Sunday recommended indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyau and his wife, Sara, as well as media mogul Shaul Elovitch and his wife, Iris, for bribery and other corruption charges in the investigation dubbed ...
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