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1
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:36:55pm

I’m not the worlds biggest Pelosi fan but I must begrudgingly admit she is easily the best choice for the job.

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calochortus  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:42:48pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m not the worlds biggest Pelosi fan but I must begrudgingly admit she is easily the best choice for the job.

She is very, very good at what she does. Not a perfect person, perhaps, but effective.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:43:26pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:46:30pm
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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:48:10pm

This thread is infuriating.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:48:29pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

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Now just imagine how Republicans would have howled if Obama did that!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:49:21pm

re: #5 MsJ

This thread is infuriating.

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When is Paxton going on trial for his crimes or is he another Republican who is above the law?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:50:35pm
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TedStriker  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:51:09pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m not the worlds biggest Pelosi fan but I must begrudgingly admit she is easily the best choice for the job.

re: #2 calochortus

She is very, very good at what she does. Not a perfect person, perhaps, but effective.

Pelosi is the War Doctor.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:52:26pm

I laughed.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:54:04pm
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TedStriker  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:55:49pm

re: #10 MsJ

I laughed.

Ted Cruz tried to get on Nine Inch Nails’ guest list, Trent Reznor told him to “fuck off” consequenceofsound.net pic.twitter.com

— Consequence of Sound (@consequence) November 28, 2018

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Chrysicat  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:56:15pm

And I’ll be willing to bet most of the ‘Chicken Tax’ discussion is already over and done with; will this revive it, or just annoy people since I missed it?

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:57:48pm

OA, This is for you.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:58:31pm

re: #13 Chrysicat

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And I’ll be willing to bet most of the ‘Chicken Tax’ discussion is already over and done with; will this revive it, or just annoy people since I missed it?

These assholes. Everything is okie dokie until it affects then personally.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:58:36pm
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:58:53pm

I had no idea NIN had written songs about soup.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 7:59:50pm
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:02:29pm

re: #16 Ace-o-aces

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:03:32pm
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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:04:22pm
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:16:55pm

But Republicans love “the troops.”

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:21:06pm

Why in the fuck does Ted Cruz like Nine Inch Nails? It makes no…

Oh…

Big Man With A Gun

Watch Ted Cruz shoot guns for 1 minute

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:22:42pm

So I was watching this:

LIVE: Launch of Indian PSLV rocket carrying HysIS + 30 secondary satellites to orbit!

Holy Hell! They show them assembling the vehicle: The first stage is a five segment solid motor, and they’re putting it together on the launchpad! Some guy painting inhibitor on to the grain and then they lower the next segment onto it!

Launch in five minutes….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:30:18pm

ll sorts of vroomy going on
that low cloud ceiling is a bit of a drag

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Seafaring, coquito drinking Santa!  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:30:22pm

Sorry for going OT so soon …

I’ve always been coy about talking about anything related to work because, hey, you never know who’s reading.

I just lost my last fuck to give.

It starts with a YouTube video and a Twitter thread (and a similar Facebook thread) by a friend (all in Spanish):

Other links:

Rant

The video is a stream of last month’s University of Puerto Rico (UPR) governing committee meeting. In 1:56:00, the president of the UPR, Dr Jorge Haddock, talked about the IT systems. He made the disdainful remark that he had instructed the IT subdirector to look into canned software because the UPR has been using custom made software, and by the time these are completed, the software is obsolete.

Now, this disdain gets on my nerves. At the UPR level, the major software development has been Portal UPR, a project to modernize the systems. The project has had its problems, but it was on route to accomplish its goals. The biggest problem it had was personnel: it had too few people for the amount of work. Still, those working on it gave their best. And it’s not like Portal UPR is not in use. It’s currently running several key university processes, helping move away from the old systems.

But this transition had hit a recent wall. All the easy pickings were done, now the most difficult and time consuming tasks remained. And that’s where this story takes a macabre turn in July. Starting on July, the team working on the project was either returned to their original posts (those that were previously working in a UPR campus), or left on the curb without contract, with no warning and absolutely no explanation. All that was heard were calls for patience because the new president (Haddock) was very “pro-IT” and was coming with new ideas. Dr Haddock started as president on the first week of September, and the project manager, the only person still working on the project, was still ignored. After around 4 months of having his calls and emails ignored at best, or replied with empty platitudes at worse, the PM decided to quit.

A sub-team was cobbled together at the last minute to keep the project running, while Dr Haddock’s team was supposed to convince the PM back, one of the conditions the full team gave to return to the project.

The thread also points to other problems within the institution. Aside from the Portal UPR PM, I know of around 10 IT people we’ve lost, all of them high caliber talents, but only a handful to retirements. It’s not just the project that’s losing staff. the campuses regular IT offices are also losing people. Compounding the problem is that the UPR has had problems recruiting people in the past. In the current climate, it’s impossible nowadays.

Any other of my thoughts in this subject veer into tin foil territory.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:32:25pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Why in the fuck does Ted Cruz like Nine Inch Nails? It makes no…

Oh…

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Didn’t Cruz do some weird assed bacon on a gun thing?

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:38:19pm

re: #27 MsJ

Didn’t Cruz do some weird assed bacon on a gun thing?

Yep.

Making Machine-Gun Bacon with Ted Cruz

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:40:26pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:40:28pm

re: #27 MsJ

Didn’t Cruz do some weird assed bacon on a gun thing?

He did, and he was very pleased with himself too.

Making Machine-Gun Bacon with Ted Cruz

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:43:41pm

He found his unsecured iPhone, probably on the bed stand and surrounded by McDonald’s refuse.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:44:02pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

Yep.

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One of our crew chiefs made a regular practice of lighting cigarettes from the barrel of his M-60 after he had fired off a long burst. He claimed he could do it with a joint, too, but I did not allow pot smoking while we were airborne in combat. Have to draw the line somewhere.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:46:26pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Have to draw the line somewhere.

Fuckin’ aye. Cannabis is for leisure, not work.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:47:09pm

re: #21 MsJ

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:48:04pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

Fuckin’ aye. Cannabis is for leisure, not work.

Unless it’s medicine.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:51:58pm

I suppose the first giveaway might have been the Canadian flag or the name Canada on the form …

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 8:54:20pm
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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:06:40pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:13:00pm

Any idea what this is about?

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:16:24pm

re: #39 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Any idea what this is about?

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curious!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:18:13pm

re: #40 retired cynic

curious!

I wonder which phone it was, one of his burners or his usual.

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:20:16pm

re: #41 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I wonder which phone it was, one of his burners or his usual.

We’re not likely to know anything, if anything did happen. We can just speculate, sort of like pretending what we would do if we won the lottery.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:20:34pm

re: #27 MsJ

Didn’t Cruz do some weird assed bacon on a gun thing?

NOT WITH ME!!!!!!!!!

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:23:00pm

re: #39 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Any idea what this is about?

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I can’t find any confirmation of that. I saw the tweet a couple of hours ago. I’d have thought that if it was true the press folks there would have said something.

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plansbandc  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:23:33pm

Is it wrong that I laughed over someone calling orangy “fatso” on the twitters? Probably, but if it is, I don’t want to be right.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:35:23pm

re: #39 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Any idea what this is about?

Press pol got left behind at Christmas Tree lighting. By the time they finally got taken back the WH called a press lid for the evening. Also saw a retweet by someone at the same time that Trump appeared to have some unusual difficulty navigating the stairs to the stage at the ceremony. he had a “death grip” on Melania’s had for assistance.

I didn’t give it much weight at the time. No corroborating info anywhere else (much like that ‘phone call’ tweet). And, still none.
All anyone really seems to know is that it was seriously cold in DC this evening. Local weather was issuing hypothermia warnings. And Trump left the ceremony rapidly after the tree was lit, and that press pool (that should travel with him) was left behind.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:36:18pm

re: #10 MsJ

I laughed.

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I look at that picture of Tailgunner Ted and immediately feel the need to go pressure wash the mildew off my house’s siding.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:41:07pm

re: #44 MsJ

I can’t find any confirmation of that. I saw the tweet a couple of hours ago. I’d have thought that if it was true the press folks there would have said something.

They’ve definitely mentioned it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:44:59pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

They’ve definitely mentioned it.

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They mentioned him leaving without the Pool. Nothing about a phone related “panic attack”

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:47:50pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

They’ve definitely mentioned it.

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I read that a while ago but I’m still not seeing anything like “he read his phone and freaked out and left” which is what that prior tweet intimated.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:48:10pm

Shade level: Godly

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:51:50pm

re: #17 jaunte

I had no idea NIN had written songs about soup.

Goddamn, this post is being criminally under appreciated.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:53:02pm

Anymouse, please pick up the white courtesy. Anymouse, white courtesy phone.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:56:08pm

This guy’s fucking nuts. Not that there’s any great surprise there.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 9:57:59pm

re: #54 MsJ

This guy’s fucking nuts. Not that there’s any great surprise there.

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So basically he’s planning an insanity plea? Not sure that’s gonna work.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:02:07pm

re: #54 MsJ

This guy’s fucking nuts. Not that there’s any great surprise there.

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Exhibit “A” for British style libel laws because they would have put this old fart bag out of circulation when he swift boated John Kerry!

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:02:07pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Press pol got left behind at Christmas Tree lighting. By the time they finally got taken back the WH called a press lid for the evening. Also saw a retweet by someone at the same time that Trump appeared to have some unusual difficulty navigating the stairs to the stage at the ceremony. he had a “death grip” on Melania’s had for assistance.

He’s a 72 year old man who lives on a diet of fast food; overcooked steak; zero exercise; and is under constant stress by being in a job he’s dangerously under-qualified for. Being unable to navigate stairs is probably the least of his worries.

IIRC, this isn’t the first time Trump’s panicked in public over stairs. Theresa May had to keep him steady at an appearance a year or so ago. I’m sure he’s way sicker than has been reported. I’m beginning to think it’s not a matter of if he croaks before his term expires, it’s when.

And good money probably says that’s sooner than everyone thinks.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:22:26pm

37 NAY votes. All Republicans.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:33:07pm

re: #57 Mattand

He’s a 72 year old man who lives on a diet of fast food; overcooked steak; zero exercise; and is under constant stress by being in a job he’s dangerously under-qualified for. Being unable to navigate stairs is probably the least of his worries.

IIRC, this isn’t the first time Trump’s panicked in public over stairs. Theresa May had to keep him steady at an appearance a year or so ago. I’m sure he’s way sicker than has been reported. I’m beginning to think it’s not a matter of if he croaks before his term expires, it’s when.

And good money probably says that’s sooner than everyone thinks.

He’s under stress alright, but I don’t think that’s why. He has no idea that he’s under-qualified because he neither knows nor cares what the job actually entails.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:33:43pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

Anymouse, please pick up the white courtesy. Anymouse, white courtesy phone.

I don’t have any way to contact the NDP and ask them to unblock Horse Whisperer on Twitter.

As for caucuses, I really don’t know about them being less democratic. People who cannot attend a county caucus meeting can fill out a form to either mail or deliver to the county party. The state party mails everyone an absentee ballot for the caucus.

It would probably be better if the state party simply held a regular primary, as the Republican and Libertarian Parties do. (I would also like to get rid of the state law that says independents can vote in any primary/caucus. You ain’t a member, you don’t get to pick our candidates.)

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:34:25pm

Oh my GOD this is hilariously brutal.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:36:42pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:41:02pm

For Horse Whisperer, perhaps a tweet at the NDP from someone else might do it.

Then there’s this from our party chair here:

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:43:14pm

I cooked chicken breast in the sous vide tonight. Last night I put some thyme and Pepper Plant seasoning on it and bagged them up with some Romano Cesar to marinate overnight because I’m really just grabbing random stuff that’s lying around and seeing how it works now. Three hours at 150 degrees because why the hell not, sliced it up and served with some Trader Joe’s stove top pasta Alfredo because, again, available.

The results were so fucking tender and juicy I cried a little.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:47:48pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:48:26pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

As soon as the neoprene insulator and water balls I ordered get here I’m going to try this 24 hour oxtail recipe.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:50:25pm

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t have any way to contact the NDP and ask them to unblock Horse Whisperer on Twitter.

As for caucuses, I really don’t know about them being less democratic. People who cannot attend a county caucus meeting can fill out a form to either mail or deliver to the county party. The state party mails everyone an absentee ballot for the caucus.

It would probably be better if the state party simply held a regular primary, as the Republican and Libertarian Parties do. (I would also like to get rid of the state law that says independents can vote in any primary/caucus. You ain’t a member, you don’t get to pick our candidates.)

Yeah, probably should have specified that I was on about the caucus part.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:51:05pm

re: #21 MsJ

I recall that in the novel of The Handmaid’s Tale, there’s a metafictional epilogue, a panel of historians discussing how Offred’s tapes (which form the narrative of the book) were recorded at the beginning of the Republic of Gilead and that ultimately, Gilead collapsed and a more equal society re-emerged with a restoration of full rights for women and freedom of religion. I don’t recall now if the historians stated how long Gilead lasted before it fell apart; it’s been a long, long time since I read the novel.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:54:27pm

re: #58 GlutenFreeJesus

37 NAY votes. All Republicans.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 10:58:17pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:16:11pm

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

I recall that in the novel of The Handmaid’s Tale, there’s a metafictional epilogue, a panel of historians discussing how Offred’s tapes (which form the narrative of the book) were recorded at the beginning of the Republic of Gilead and that ultimately, Gilead collapsed and a more equal society re-emerged with a restoration of full rights for women and freedom of religion. I don’t recall now if the historians stated how long Gilead lasted before it fell apart; it’s been a long, long time since I read the novel.

Looking at my copy of the book …

The epilogue is set on June 25, 2195. Referring to a section of the dialogue, from Professor James Darcy Pieixoto of the University of Cambridge, given at the University of Denay, Nunavut. (The speech is about the difficulty in authenticating artifacts from Gilead as being genuine.)

“To return from my digression: [cassette] tape like this, howeiver, is difficult to fake convincingly, and we were assured by the experts who examined them that the physical objects themselves are genuine. Certainly the recording itself, that is, the superimposition of voice upon music tape, could not have been done within the past hundred and fifty years.”

The story never gives a precise date for the Republic of Gilead, but using the figure given in the fictional speech, the cassette tapes would have been dated no later than 2045.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:18:02pm

re: #57 Mattand

He’s a 72 year old man who lives on a diet of fast food; overcooked steak; zero exercise; and is under constant stress by being in a job he’s dangerously under-qualified for. Being unable to navigate stairs is probably the least of his worries.

IIRC, this isn’t the first time Trump’s panicked in public over stairs. Theresa May had to keep him steady at an appearance a year or so ago. I’m sure he’s way sicker than has been reported. I’m beginning to think it’s not a matter of if he croaks before his term expires, it’s when.

And good money probably says that’s sooner than everyone thinks.

If Trump’s having “difficulty navigating the stairs” (and he does seem to have a fear of stairs as I recall) it’s most likely because he’s having issues with depth perception and needs to be wearing glasses……which of course, he won’t do because he’s so goddamn vain.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:21:45pm

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

If Trump’s having “difficulty navigating the stairs” (and he does seem to have a fear of stairs as I recall) it’s most likely because he’s having issues with depth perception and needs to be wearing glasses……which of course, he won’t do because he’s so goddamn vain.

His vision would have to be really awful then.

My own vision is really awful (I can’t read my computer screen without my glasses because it’s too far away) and I can navigate stairs just fine without my glasses.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:24:49pm

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹

His vision would have to be really awful then.

My own vision is really awful (I can’t read my computer screen without my glasses because it’s too far away) and I can navigate stairs just fine without my glasses.

Could be that just one eye might be more strongly affected than the other; that would be enough to mess with depth perception.

He is in his early 70’s, after all, and I’d expect that his vision by this point isn’t exactly 20/20. He might very well use glasses in private, when no one’s around, but he won’t do it publicly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:29:52pm

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

Could be that just one eye might be more strongly affected than the other; that would be enough to mess with depth perception.

He is in his early 70’s, after all, and I’d expect that his vision by this point isn’t exactly 20/20. He might very well use glasses in private, when no one’s around, but he won’t do it publicly.

Could be.

My wife has balance problems on staircases (going down), but that was caused by her auto accident in Colorado many years ago—she refers to the traffic light they put up in Falcon after her accident as her “memorial traffic light.” (That accident also left her with a lazy eye, but her vision is not her problem with staircases. That’s also why I get upset when people attack Sarah Huckabee Sanders over her own lazy eye—there are plenty of horrible things she does without that.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:40:34pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

For Horse Whisperer, perhaps a tweet at the NDP from someone else might do it.

Then there’s this from our party chair here:

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That’s exactly what we did. We elected quite progressive people like AOC and we elected some more moderate people too. I don’t get what her deal is. And we gained three seats here in VA.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:41:38pm

My highlight of this November, easily.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:43:03pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

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Rubio too. Another fake asshole

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:45:39pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:50:34pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

That’s exactly what we did. We elected quite progressive people like AOC and we elected some more moderate people too. I don’t get what her deal is. And we gained three seats here in VA.

While no Democrat here won Federal office, the win rate for state and local offices was 73% out of over 850 candidates (the most we ever ran here).

Jane Kleeb was a Sanders supporter during the primaries, as was I. While she supported Hillary Clinton later, she wasn’t exactly a raging endorser.

She is good at organising (she organised Bold Nebraska against the Keystone XL pipeline before entering politics). She seems to be missing part of the picture though, that to advance a more liberal agenda in Congress we really need to get liberals elected. (She is tinged with purity pony, but not too badly.)

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2018 • 11:59:42pm

Even though it’s from Daily Mail, they’re reporting on a (morbidly) fascinating case regarding an incarcerated 78-year-old man - who may well be the most prolific serial killer in US history.

He seems to have largely preyed on drug-addicted women and prostitutes, and as a result, the bulk of his victims ended up being classified as “Jane Does” and in many cases, likely not even investigated beyond a cursory stage.

He’s confessed to 90 murders, and so far, authorities have verified 34 of those crimes.

dailymail.co.uk

Yeesh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:00:30am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

While no Democrat here won Federal office, the win rate for state and local offices was 73% out of over 850 candidates (the most we ever ran here).

Jane Kleeb was a Sanders supporter during the primaries, as was I. While she supported Hillary Clinton later, she wasn’t exactly a raging endorser.

She is good at organising (she organised Bold Nebraska against the Keystone XL pipeline before entering politics). She seems to be missing part of the picture though, that to advance a more liberal agenda in Congress we really need to get liberals elected. (She is tinged with purity pony, but not too badly.)

What frustrates me is people like her have no pragmatic instincts. If she wants to build the DPoN she needs that. We built the Virginia Democratic Party not by having ideologues but by being reasonable and working for a liberalism that appealed to as many Virginians as possible and that was good for our state. She just needs to keep working to get Dems elected in Nebraska and be happy when we have success in other states. Purity politics gets you nowhere.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:02:01am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

Even though it’s from Daily Mail, they’re reporting on a (morbidly) fascinating case regarding an incarcerated 78-year-old man - who may well be the most prolific serial killer in US history.

He preyed on drug addicted women and prostitutes, and as a result, the bulk of his victims ended up being classified as “Jane Does” and in many cases, likely not even investigated beyond a cursory stage.

He’s confessed to 90 murders, and so far, authorities have verified 34 of those crimes.

dailymail.co.uk

Yeesh.

Oh wow but authorities need to be careful he’s not another Henry Lee Lucas serial confessor type but wow if true.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:06:33am

Anyhow one last thought before bed but the Democratic Party is more progressive than ever. And still I see people with legitimate progressive creds attacked as neoliberals or some other lefty purer than thou buzzword. The Dems aren’t not should they become a leftist party. Give me Obama over a jerk like Jeremy Corbyn indifferent to racism and xenophobia because he’s obsessed with socialism. Socialism isn’t the answer and neither is unregulated capitalism.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:08:51am

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Oh wow but authorities need to be careful he’s not another Henry Lee Lucas serial confessor type but wow if true.

Exactly; Henry Lee Lucas sprang to mind immediately when I first read about the case a few days back on Reddit - I didn’t dismiss it outright, but I took it (and still do) with something of a grain of salt.

But as the authorities have apparently verified 34 homicides, and it appears that he was most active during the 1970’s and 80’s (the “Golden Age of Serial Killers”, so to speak), it’s starting to look like there’s definitely something to it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:15:38am

Huffington Post goes down the same path of weak headlines other outlets have:

Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith’s Wins Runoff Election Despite Controversial Comments

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Wrong, HuffPo.

Senator Cindy Hyde-Simth [what’s that apostrophe S doing in there HuffPo] Wins Runoff Election Despite RACIST Comments.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:18:53am

Somebody has aircraft envy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:20:07am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m not the worlds biggest Pelosi fan but I must begrudgingly admit she is easily the best choice for the job.

This is generally not much of a newsworthy event, but the press is fixated on “Democrats in Disarray” and “Pelosi Under Pressure” headlines that they just don’t wanna let go.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:28:04am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is generally not much of a newsworthy event, but the press is fixated on “Democrats in Disarray” and “Pelosi Under Pressure” headlines that they just don’t wanna let go.

We didn’t get any of that when John Boehner resigned from Congress and the GOP spent days trying to find a new sucker Speaker.

While we did get reports on the discussions and political manoeuvres going on in the GOP caucus, there was no “GOP in disarray” nonsense (and they really were in disarray).

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:41:17am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:46:07am
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fern01  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:49:10am

re: #57 Mattand

And good money probably says that’s sooner than everyone thinks.

Yes please.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:50:33am

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

I recall that in the novel of The Handmaid’s Tale, there’s a metafictional epilogue, a panel of historians discussing how Offred’s tapes (which form the narrative of the book) were recorded at the beginning of the Republic of Gilead.

On a cassette originally labeled “Twisted Sister”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:51:10am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On a cassette originally labeled “Twisted Sister”

Also Lithuanian Folk Tunes, Elvis, and Boy George.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:52:14am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

I have reached the Fuck Twitter portion of my evening.

Goodnight.

That starts with me at 12.00 am and ends at 12.00 pm…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:55:40am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Anyhow one last thought before bed but the Democratic Party is more progressive than ever. And still I see people with legitimate progressive creds attacked as neoliberals or some other lefty purer than thou buzzword.

“Democrats Veer Hard left” is another one of those narratives that the press wants to nurture wherever and whenever they can.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:03:28am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:03:30am

If you live in SW British Columbia or northern Washington State, this might interest you:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:04:51am

re: #97 Ace-o-aces

Former President Barack Obama: “Not only did I not get indicted, nobody in my administration got indicted which, by the way, was the only administration in modern history that can be said about.”

Only because he bribed the DOJ with Free Stuff or something…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:05:53am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

If you live in SW British Columbia or northern Washington State, this might interest you:

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I have a terrible crush on Sarah Kendzior and have fantasies about sitting up with her (afterwards), smoking cigarettes and discussing politics…

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:08:48am

This is unbelievably fucked.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:20:35am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a terrible crush on Sarah Kendzior and have fantasies about sitting up with her (afterwards), smoking cigarettes and discussing politics…

Gotta be in Victoria, though, so you’ve got to take a ferry no matter where you’re coming from….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:21:16am

re: #102 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Gotta be in Victoria, though, so you’ve got to take a ferry no matter where you’re coming from….

I would swim if that were necessary…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:24:05am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would swim if that were necessary…

I dunno…most people don’t know Vancouver Island is an island…out there in the water…lots of water…the wettest water there is, in terms of water….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:27:58am

re: #104 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I dunno…most people don’t know Vancouver Island is an island…out there in the water…lots of water…the wettest water there is, in terms of water….

the best water

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:38:15am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That starts with me at 12.00 am and ends at 12.00 pm…

So, you’re good with Twitter for half the day? ‘Cause I think you really meant: starts at 12:00:01 am and ends at 12:00 am.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 1:45:02am

re: #106 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So, you’re good with Twitter for half the day? ‘Cause I think you really meant: starts at 12:00:01 am and ends at 12:00 am.

that is what I meant

actually I am not even on Twitter

I get enough of it here to remind me of why I am not

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:16:24am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a terrible crush on Sarah Kendzior and have fantasies about sitting up with her (afterwards), smoking cigarettes and discussing politics…

I assume by “afterwards” you mean after her talk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:18:11am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

I assume by “afterwards” you mean after her talk.

I will leave that up to your imagination…

In any case, I actually have a brilliant new girlfriend, studied Economics at Beijing University and works for the German Federal Reserve, with whom I can sit up and discuss politics and economics…but she does not smoke.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:18:42am

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

We can land a robot on Mars, but we can’t figure out how to pay veterans on Earth.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:20:13am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will leave that up to your imagination…

In any case, I actually have a brilliant new girlfriend, studied Economics at Beijing University and works for the German Federal Reserve, with whom I can sit up and discuss politics and economics…but she does not smoke.

Clearly you need to work on your technique.

{Riffing on a very old National Lampoon joke.}

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:21:20am

re: #110 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

We can land a robot on Mars, but we can’t figure out how to pay veterans on Earth.

I was impressed by an EU initiative to require airlines and railroads to offer immediate online refund of bookings for delayed flights or train connections.

The logic being that if you can book these things immediately on line, why should you have to fill out paper forms and jump through all sorts of hoops to get a refund?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:22:28am

re: #111 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Clearly you need to work on your technique.

{Riffing on a very old National Lampoon joke.}

I recall that reference, was just looking up “Chairman Mao’s Little Black Book” from a 1972 issue.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:25:24am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall that reference, was just looking up “Chairman Mao’s Little Black Book” from a 1972 issue.

It was a Foto Funnies gag.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:27:48am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will leave that up to your imagination…

You might want to reconsider that.

In any case, I actually have a brilliant new girlfriend, studied Economics at Beijing University and works for the German Federal Reserve, with whom I can sit up and discuss politics and economics…but she does not smoke.

Congradumalashuns!

As for smoking, I probably ought to give that up. (The VA harangues me every time they ask me about smoking for an old medical reason.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:27:50am

re: #114 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It was a Foto Funnies gag.

Yes, I recall the issue. That magazine did a lot to shape my sense of humor and my view of the world in general…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:29:12am

Deutsche Bank is in some hot water.

Deutsche is also implicated in the Danske Bank money laundering scandal that broke a few days ago.

reuters.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:29:44am

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

You might want to reconsider that.

Congradumalashuns!

As for smoking, I probably ought to give that up. (The VA harangues me every time they ask me about smoking for an old medical reason.)

my ex-GF smoked, not heavily but regularly. I used to join her a couple times a week, mostly just to sit out on the balcony with her and chat

then when we split, I found myself smoking regularly

came to realize it was a bit of a psychological prop that reminded me of her…

in any case, I have quit again entirely

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:30:49am

re: #117 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Deutsche Bank is in some hot water.

Deutsche is also implicated in the Danske Bank money laundering scandal that broke a few days ago.

reuters.com

Perhaps they’ll find some of Donald Trump’s deposits.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:31:59am

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹

Perhaps they’ll find some of Donald Trump’s deposits.

More like debts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:50:12am

re: #117 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Deutsche Bank is in some hot water.

Deutsche is also implicated in the Danske Bank money laundering scandal that broke a few days ago.

reuters.com

I seem to recall that there were some “irregularities” concerning Deutsche Bank and the Trump Organization at one point

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:53:27am

Annnnd another consequence of Brexit:

London will lose up to to €800bn (£700bn) in assets to rival financial hub Frankfurt by March 2019 as banks start to transfer business to the German city before Brexit day.

The lobby group Frankfurt Main Finance released the figure after it was confirmed that 30 banks and financial firms had chosen the city as the site of their new EU headquarters.

But with several banks - including JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley - planning to spread their operations across a number of cities including Dublin and Paris, the lobby group believes the number of firms committed to expanding or setting up offices in Frankfurt will be closer to 37.

Ultimately it will mean draining billions of pounds worth of assets from London to companies’ German operations within months.

“All in all, we expect a transfer of €750bn to €800bn in assets from London to Frankfurt, the majority of which will be transferred in the first quarter of 2019,” said Hubertus Väth, the managing director of Frankfurt Main Finance.

theguardian.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:55:58am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

And the Tories will still go down that path. It’s like a freakin’ religion: We must be right, and all the politicians, economists, &c., they’re all wrong and we’re right.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:57:12am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Annnnd another consequence of Brexit:

theguardian.com

Which means that Frankfurt will be even more overrun with bankers than it already is…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:57:24am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I seem to recall that there were some “irregularities” concerning Deutsche Bank and the Trump Organization at one point

If you remember the hearing Michael Cohen blew off to meet with some good fellas at a coffee shop…there were various twitter pictures of that meeting—and somebody pointed out that a guy sitting against the wall not visibly interacting with the rest of them, was Deutsche Bank’s American CFO.

Rick Wilson’s reaction was: “No. Effing. Way.”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:58:40am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Annnnd another consequence of Brexit:

theguardian.com

Yeah, so much for the revival of the British Empire. Not only will the UK lose all the highly qualified workers from the EU, it will also lose a shit=ton of capital as businesses that relied on EU connections leave town.

Of course, the Tories could have prevented all this mayhem had they the backbone to admit they were wrong.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 2:59:22am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which means that Frankfurt will be even more overrun with bankers than it already is…

Frankfurt may well become a true global banking powerhouse as a result of Brexit - it wouldn’t surprise in the slightest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:01:56am

re: #127 Dr Lizardo

Frankfurt may well become a true global banking powerhouse as a result of Brexit - it wouldn’t surprise in the slightest.

Inasmuch as it is the seat of the European Central Bank, it already is, and I think that ultimately Brexit will strengthen it rather than weaken it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:04:01am

re: #126 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Yeah, so much for the revival of the British Empire. Not only will the UK lose all the highly qualified workers from the EU, it will also lose a shit=ton of capital as businesses that relied on EU connections leave town.

Of course, the Tories could have prevented all this mayhem had they the backbone to admit they were wrong.

They still could prevent they’re wrong and prevent this mayhem. They prefer power over their countrymen rather than a participant in a larger group they don’t completely control.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:04:53am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Inasmuch as it is the seat of the European Central Bank, it already is, and I think that ultimately Brexit will strengthen it rather than weaken it.

I don’t doubt that at all; what I meant was that Frankfurt will likely become what the City of London is today.

The Brexiteers are dug in…..for them, it’s a matter of faith as British Exceptionalism is a quasi-religion. And there’s pretty much nothing that can shake their fanaticism.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:07:37am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

I don’t doubt that at all; what I meant was that Frankfurt will likely become what the City of London is today.

The Brexiteers are dug in…..for them, it’s a matter of faith as British Exceptionalism is a quasi-religion. And there’s pretty much nothing that can shake their fanaticism.

Watching the pound weaken against the dollar and the euro might leave a mark, though.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:11:48am

re: #131 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Watching the pound weaken against the dollar and the euro might leave a mark, though.

Some brow-furrowing and tut-tutting might ever-so-slightly intensify if the Pound dips below the US Dollar. But that’s probably about it, to be honest.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:22:42am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:27:22am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:50:49am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 4:17:40am

LOL

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jeffreyw  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:09:48am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:17:29am

Whelp, I just got a spam/potential malware attachment in E-mail, allegedly from the state Public Information Officer.

Being the village Public Information Officer, and unsure what to do, I sent an E-mail back to the real state PIO noting I got this.

Since the E-mail alleges to be from a state office (though the E-mail address was constructed badly) and it used her name as she writes it (not her name as it appears in my Outlook address book), I noted I was suspicious that the state’s computer system may have been hacked. In that case, it is possible every PIO in the state received this E-mail alleging to be from her.

I alerted her to this, and asked if there was someone at the state IT office I should send a copy of the E-mail to. (I do not have a contact for such information from the state.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:26:50am

moron-in-chief is soooo full of shit this morning:

he really can’t believe this fairy tale crap that he is spewing?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:28:02am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron-in-chief is soooo full of shit this morning:

he really can’t believe this fairy tale crap that he is spewing?

What frickin’ world does he live in? This is entirely delusional. None of that is happening.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:28:28am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron-in-chief is soooo full of shit this morning:

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he really can’t believe this fairy tale crap that he is spewing?

He knows he’s guilty as hell.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:29:37am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron-in-chief is soooo full of shit this morning:

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he really can’t believe this fairy tale crap that he is spewing?

I am wondering the same thing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:30:03am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹

What frickin’ world does he live in? This is entirely delusional. None of that is happening.

The world his advisers lie to him about and the world his buttkissers on FNC give him where he took us from 40% unemployment to negative.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:35:59am

that nonsense about billions of dollars pouring into USA coffers due to tariffs on China is so beyond crazy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:36:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:37:15am

of course he doesn’t know

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:37:40am

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

that nonsense about billions of dollars pouring into USA coffers due to tariffs on China is so beyond crazy

BMW was going to expand but decided not to. Peripheral suppliers in the area also had planned expansion that was stopped.

I have no idea at all where he gets this shit. If we had a sane government this alone would have 25th amendmented him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:39:34am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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of course he doesn’t know

Blazing Saddles (3/10) Movie CLIP - Harrumphing with the Governor (1974) HD

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:39:39am

re: #147 MsJ

BMW was going to expand but decided not to. Peripheral suppliers in the area also had planned expansion that was stopped.

I have no idea at all where he gets this shit. If we had a sane government this alone would have 25th amendmented him.

I hadn’t heard anything about BMW adding a new plant, and sure enough, I could find nothing about it in the news feeds. Maybe he’s reading old news about the Spartenburg plant being built?

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:40:44am

Booooomf, crash…thud.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:41:26am

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Too bad we can’t distract him with the paddle and ball.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:42:48am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Too bad we can’t distract him with the paddle and ball.

Stormy Daniels could

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:42:58am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Too bad we can’t distract him with the paddle and ball.

boob distraction is enough

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:43:50am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:46:24am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Right on.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:47:38am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

That last bit about companies not wanting to pay tariffs contradicts the previous statement about China paying tariffs. He’s so confused.

Sure, if I were buying steel to build, I dunno, cars, I’d want to buy as cheaply as possible because that would help my profit margin and help me keep MSRPs low so people would actually buy my cars. If I could buy that steel domestically, I would, but it turns out US steel makers buy their material from abroad, so whoops!

Trump is leading the economy toward a recession at the same time he is feuding with Powell at the Fed, which is trying to prevent a recession (presumably). Experts can’t agree right now which guy succeeds.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:47:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:50:29am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:51:05am

re: #150 MsJ

Booooomf, crash…thud.

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Which reminds me of this catchy little tune.

The Fault In Our Stars - Charli XCX - Boom Clap

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:51:48am

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

What Trump says: If Democrats play tough I will declassify “devastating documents.”

What he means: If Democrats do legitimate oversight I will burn sources and allies by selectively declassifying info so my legal team can misrepresent it to the public.

This supports my notion that when he finally goes, he is going to wreck as much as he can on the way out.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:53:14am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This supports my notion that when he finally goes, he is going to wreck as much as he can on the way out.

Like every business he’s tried before.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:54:25am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:57:07am

Trump may be the first president in history to ruin the USA. Buchanan might be a contender in that competition, though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:57:46am

re: #161 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Like every business he’s tried before.

He just let those collapse, I think that he is going to throw a temper tantrum and try to do as much damage as possible on the way out.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:58:00am

re: #10 MsJ

Current mood after hearing that:

Nine Inch Nails: Head Like A Hole (1990)

Bow down before the one you serve… you’re going to get what you deserve.

And in Cruz’s case, it’s a hale and hearty fuck you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:58:49am

JFC

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:58:55am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see he hasn’t heard about Ford.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2018 • 5:59:46am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

No matter how long the list is, it’s still shorter than an anti-vaxxer list.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:00:19am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

In other words, they’re no better/worse off than most hospital ER intake. And they’re in remarkably good shape considering they walked 2,000 miles to get to the US border to seek asylum.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:01:01am

I reported that spam E-mail I got alleging to be from the state Public Information Officer to the scam Website of the State Attorney General. (The form requires your telephone number, so I imagine I’ll be getting a call soon, since the E-mail is impersonating a state official.)

Looking up the header information, the IP traces back to the Pontifical Catholic University of Santiago, Chile.

I know I get all my Nebraska public affairs information from Chile. /s

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:01:16am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He just let those collapse, I think that he is going to throw a temper tantrum and try to do as much damage as possible on the way out.

Hoarse Whisperer alluded to that in his/her thread earlier a little while ago. Trump as a narcissist will not abide failure or ridicule, and he will become a raging narcissist, creating all kinds of mayhem, because he will not be in control of the situation. GM, Mueller, the Ninth Circuit, the media — none of them are obeying his mighty commands, and it’s driving Fathead batty.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:02:04am

re: #169 lawhawk

In other words, they’re no better/worse off than most hospital ER intake. And they’re in remarkably good shape considering they walked 2,000 miles to get to the US border to seek asylum.

That was my thought. FNC again showing why they’re poisonous assholes.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:02:12am

re: #169 lawhawk

In other words, they’re no better/worse off than most hospital ER intake. And they’re in remarkably good shape considering they walked 2,000 miles to get to the US border to seek asylum.

Plus, they’re probably vaccinated against most communicable diseases.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:03:08am

re: #173 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Plus, they’re probably vaccinated against most communicable diseases.

Vaccine usage at least in Mexico I know is higher than here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:03:29am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:04:10am

re: #142 MsJ

They are looking at supposedly stolen Crooked Hillary Clinton Emails (even though they don’t want to look at the DNC Server), but have no interest in the Emails that Hillary DELETED & acid washed AFTER getting a Congressional Subpoena!

This has been some Due Process Week.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:04:20am

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Well, I’ve seen fire and I’ve seen rain …”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:04:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:05:02am
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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:05:06am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

His know nothing base didn’t know either. They thought that they were getting tax cuts.

What they were in fact getting was a headache because the GOP completely botched the withholding provisions so many taxpayers will end up owing more than they should this year and face inadequate withholding penalties this year. And the bulk of the tax breaks go to corporations and millionaires like Trump.

They’re getting tax breaks to offshore businesses (and incentives to do so thanks to Trump’s idiotic trade war too), and same goes for layoffs and reorganizations all while sitting on cash from record profits.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:05:51am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

Amazing how DJT and FNC know so much about the caravaners.

///

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:08:39am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

That was my thought. FNC again showing why they’re poisonous assholes.

Last week they were trying to promote the idea that asylees in this group were carrying smallpox.

I guess that was a bit too much, though in typical FOX fashion they did not retract the lie.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:09:36am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹

Last week they were trying to promote the idea that asylees in this group were carrying smallpox.

I guess that was a bit too much, though in typical FOX fashion they did not retract the lie.

They’re evil people there. They never have met a suffering people they haven’t wanted to scapegoat.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:11:38am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Vaccination rates across Latin America are comparable to American rates. Some are lower by a fraction than the US, some have better rates.

Via CATO. World Bank has similar data (for instance, they indicate Honduras has 97% vaccination rates; Guatemala has 86%, and the US has… drumroll: 92%).

Put simply, the right wing xenophobic white nationalist base is trotting out the usual tropes and smears about migrants seeking to enter the US lawfully and claim asylum.

It’s the same smears we heard decades ago when Jews tried to enter, and before that the Irish, Chinese, etc.

Xenophobic white nationalists want to reserve their power and control, and that means making BS claims to try and gin up support for their odious positions.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:13:23am

No word on how this relates to Trumpworld, but it should be noted that Trump had to go to Deutsche Bank for loans when he was shut out of American financial orgs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:14:29am

re: #185 lawhawk

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No word on how this relates to Trumpworld, but it should be noted that Trump had to go to Deutsche Bank for loans when he was shut out of American financial orgs.

I suspect that somebody in Frankfurt DA office is going let a few stink bombs drop over this one.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:15:04am

Oh… and there’s this too:

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Dave In Austin  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:17:02am
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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:20:17am

re: #188 Dave In Austin

1) auto companies aren’t pouring in.
2) companies are trying to read the market and planning based on what they think will be wanted 2-5 years out or more, because you don’t build a factory for just one year. You don’t do a product line for just a year.
3) GM is shuttering facilities because they’re facing higher costs thanks to Trump’s idiotic trade war
4) GM is betting on SUV, CUV, and electrics - and shifting production to match that bet.
5) GM is already on the cusp of phase out for incentives for alt-energy vehicles (200,000); a threshold already reached by the likes of Toyota years earlier thanks to the Prius.
6) Trump’s a fucknut who doesn’t have a clue and doesn’t care. His supporters are even less informed, thanks to the Fox reach-around and agitprop misinformation cycle (Trump-Fox-Trump).

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:20:17am

re: #188 Dave In Austin

Different companies making different decisions is called…a free market. In general such a market fosters competition, growth and freedom. Most Republicans understand this.

— Bill Kristol

Most Republicans understand precisely what their corporate lobbyists pay them to understand. They are there for power, not to enrich the American people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:20:43am
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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:21:28am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I seem to recall that there were some “irregularities” concerning Deutsche Bank and the Trump Organization at one point

IIRC, Deutsche Bank was the only bank that would loan him money.

Also, former Justice Kennedy’s son was the one who green-lighted a huge loan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:28:17am

re: #192 makeitstop

IIRC, Deutsche Bank was the only bank that would loan him money.

Also, former Justice Kennedy’s son was the one who green-lighted a huge loan.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:28:21am

Scary video, eleven seconds:

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:31:56am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:32:50am

I’m going to bed. Hoping I wake up to some good Mueller news. Carry on, people!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:33:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:36:33am
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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:40:26am

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹

Scary video, eleven seconds:

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That’s gotta be fake.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:41:22am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

$3,874 CAD = $2,917 USD

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:42:47am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

I suppose the first giveaway might have been the Canadian flag or the name Canada on the form …

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The word “CHEQUE” on the form.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:42:47am

re: #184 lawhawk

Vaccination rates across Latin America are comparable to American rates. Some are lower by a fraction than the US, some have better rates.

Via CATO. World Bank has similar data (for instance, they indicate Honduras has 97% vaccination rates; Guatemala has 86%, and the US has… drumroll: 92%).

Put simply, the right wing xenophobic white nationalist base is trotting out the usual tropes and smears about migrants seeking to enter the US lawfully and claim asylum.

It’s the same smears we heard decades ago when Jews tried to enter, and before that the Irish, Chinese, etc.

Xenophobic white nationalists want to reserve their power and control, and that means making BS claims to try and gin up support for their odious positions.

Thanks. Wasn’t sure about the other countries and yes it’s the same old bs.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:49:28am

re: #199 makeitstop

That’s gotta be fake.

My thoughts too. The stresses with gear and flaps down would be way over what that airframe could deal with without shedding parts. CGI?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:51:41am

re: #203 William Lewis

My thoughts too. The stresses with gear and flaps down would be way over what that airframe could deal with without shedding parts. CGI?

Passenger jets are not equipped to do barrel rolls. It is almost certainly fake (but in the context of the tweet it is also funny).

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 6:55:42am

(Via Balloon Juice)

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:06:18am

The state public information officer just wrote me back (she’s an hour ahead of me). She said the IT department told her to let every PIO know the E-mail is not from her, and thanked me for informing her about it.

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Teukka  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:06:18am

re: #205 Jay C

I still think the Trump administration is like the Winchester Mystery House of presidencies; as long as they keep adding on scandals, Mueller can never finish his report.

(Via Balloon Juice)

Sounds plausible.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:08:30am

Some track record, there, Spanky.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:10:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:11:44am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Individual 1”? Hmm, who could that be?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:12:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:13:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:13:48am

moron-in-chief should be getting on the helicopter right about now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:15:33am

this is better than the one with the eggs:

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Teukka  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:18:55am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Also, found this in the replies:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:20:07am

re: #215 Teukka

Also, found this in the replies:

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You know when you support a guy who had a history of creeping around in teenage beautiful paegant locker rooms, maybe not the best to call your opponents pedophiles, mmkay.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:23:32am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

What Meuller knows is that the best way to get your target to do stupid stuff is to surprise them occasionally with what you actually know.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:24:25am

I like how they totally underestimate Mueller’s intelligence and ability to get tough prosecutions done. As I said, Mueller is the tough guy they fancy themselves and Trump to be but the real Trump is who they actually are.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:24:49am

re: #199 makeitstop

That’s gotta be fake.

Of course it’s fake, it’s the Stansaid Airport Twitter feed which is a humor account.

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:25:10am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

You know when you support a guy who had a history of creeping around in teenage beautiful paegant locker rooms, maybe not the best to call your opponents pedophiles, mmkay.

Assuming this is the usual RW troll, “pedophile” is probably just an all-purpose smear they picked up from “Pizzagate” reporting or wherever: kinda like “commie” was 40 years ago - and about as relevant.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:25:21am

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:29:46am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron-in-chief should be getting on the helicopter right about now.

Well, fleeing the country is a tradition for would-be dictators who fail to retain power.

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:29:52am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron-in-chief is soooo full of shit this morning:

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he really can’t believe this fairy tale crap that he is spewing?

He sure is awfully concerned about something he didn’t do.

Yeah, innocent people always act like this.

And it has been this way since he fired Comey, who must have been wrong about worrying about Russian influence in the election.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:30:18am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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After seeing how Manafort has gone out of his way to fuck up Mueller’s case, I’m almost developing a grudging respect for Says Who.

Almost. I realize he’s only doing it to save his own skin, but still. He’s stepping up, and it realistically could cost him his life.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:31:02am

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹

Passenger jets are not equipped to do barrel rolls. It is almost certainly fake (but in the context of the tweet it is also funny).

Well, actually they can roll just fine if you maintain a constant 1G in the maneuver. For example the Boeing 707 prototype:

Boeing 707 roll by Test Pilot Tex Johnson

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:32:08am

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:32:52am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Of course it’s fake, it’s the Stansaid Airport Twitter feed which is a humor account.

Yeah, I noticed it was the Stansaid account after I posted that comment. Need moar coffee.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:33:05am

Texas woman with four children gets eight years in jail for voter fraud

A Texas appeals court upheld the conviction of green card holder Rosa Maria Ortega for voter fraud on Wednesday, cementing a sentence of eight years in jail and a likely deportation.

Ortega, a mother of four, reportedly thought she was able to vote because she was a permanent resident. She voted five times between 2004 and 2014 — once for the attorney general, Ken Paxton, who later prosecuted her, according to her attorney. She also reportedly served as a poll worker.

Paxton and the rest of the liars finally have their smoking gun, but they have yet to prove that Ortega voted 4 million times.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:33:26am

re: #224 makeitstop

After seeing how Manafort has gone out of his way to fuck up Mueller’s case, I’m almost developing a grudging respect for Says Who.

Almost. I realize he’s only doing it to save his own skin, but still. He’s stepping up, and it realistically could cost him his life.

At least Cohen isn’t trying to fuck up the government’s case. I dunno. I certainly don’t feel any pity for Michael Cohen but I think there’s a real possibiity that he was disturbed as a child of a Holocaust survivor to see the way Trump actually was treating immigrants once he got in power. Probably didn’t hurt that Trump threw him under the bus though. In any case, as I said the other day and I know you’ll appreciate the analogy as a New Yorker and observer of Cosa Nostra but we need a Gravano type to get Trump’s Gotti.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:34:08am

re: #228 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Texas woman with four children gets eight years in jail for voter fraud

Paxton and the rest of the liars finally have their smoking gun, but they have yet to prove that Ortega voted 4 million times.

Meanwhile that Florida police chief who cosplays as Steve Harvey and G. Gordon Liddy only got three years for attempting to frame innocent black men of crimes. The justice system is flawed as hell and I say that as a paralegal.

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:35:06am

re: #150 MsJ

Booooomf, crash…thud.

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Those two guys in the other lift bucket were lucky not to get killed by the clock dropping and hitting them in the head or knocking them out of the bucket.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:37:02am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹

His vision would have to be really awful then.

My own vision is really awful (I can’t read my computer screen without my glasses because it’s too far away) and I can navigate stairs just fine without my glasses.

since the age of 4 or 6 or so, most of us could “navigate stairs” with our eyes closed

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:38:07am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

At least Cohen isn’t trying to fuck up the government’s case. I dunno. I certainly don’t feel any pity for Michael Cohen but I think there’s a real possibiity that he was disturbed as a child of a Holocaust survivor to see the way Trump actually was treating immigrants once he got in power. Probably didn’t hurt that Trump threw him under the bus though. In any case, as I said the other day and I know you’ll appreciate the analogy as a New Yorker and observer of Cosa Nostra but we need a Gravano type to get Trump’s Gotti.

Cohen could be Trump’s Sammy the Bull.

Granted - everyone coming out of Trumpworld is absolute slime, and that stank won’t wash off.

Cohen does seem to be trying to make amends, for whatever reason. Points plus for that.

(Gawd, I can’t believe I just typed that.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:39:35am

re: #233 makeitstop

Cohen could be Trump’s Sammy the Bull.

Granted - everyone coming out of Trumpworld is absolute slime, and that stank won’t wash off.

Cohen does seem to be trying to make amends, for whatever reason. Points plus for that.

(Gawd, I can’t believe I just typed that.)

Yeah that’s what I was thinking as well. I just hope Cohen knows it’s going to take a lot for him to regain whatever reputation he thought he had before this. I certainly don’t want to see him 30-40 years from now acting how Chuck Colson did.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:39:55am

re: #77 teleskiguy

My highlight of this November, easily.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:43:00am

re: #97 Ace-o-aces

Former President Barack Obama: “Not only did I not get indicted, nobody in my administration got indicted which, by the way, was the only administration in modern history that can be said about.”

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:45:00am

re: #110 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

We can land a robot on Mars, but we can’t figure out how to pay veterans on Earth.

yes, though more accurately we choose to screw veterans over simple stuff and simple solutions

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:45:08am

re: #236 dangerman

Former President Barack Obama: “Not only did I not get indicted, nobody in my administration got indicted which, by the way, was the only administration in modern history that can be said about.”

spin: the DOJ is corrupt and favors the Democrats!

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:45:40am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s what I was thinking as well. I just hope Cohen knows it’s going to take a lot for him to regain whatever reputation he thought he had before this. I certainly don’t want to see him 30-40 years from now acting how Chuck Colson did.

If he brings Trump down, there’s more than a zero chance he won’t live that long.

If Trumpworld goes up in flames, a certain Russian is likely to get burned. Uncle Daddy Vlad does not like getting burned. Just sayin’

Also, this:

Anybody seen any statements from Trump on this?

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:46:08am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:46:31am

re: #236 dangerman

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The more ethical Republican administrations are the ones that get derided as RINOs i.e. Ford and Bush I, imagine that.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:46:57am

Flailing! This is what flailing looks like. Jesus…..

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:47:03am

re: #236 dangerman

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Looks like Trump’s boast of ‘blowing away Ronald Reagan’ will come true in one respect.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:47:15am

re: #240 lawhawk

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The map was tougher for Dems this year on paper but Senate Republicans face a tougher test since they actually have to share a ballot with the orange pos.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:47:59am

re: #243 makeitstop

Looks like Trump’s boast of ‘blowing away Ronald Reagan’ will come true in one respect.

It’s amazing how crooked the Reagan administration really was. As bad as Nixon but Reagan gets away with in popular memory because he was much charismatic than Nixon and he never got popped himself.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:48:23am
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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:48:43am

re: #236 dangerman

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Wonder how long it will take for some RW blogger to post this chart, and use it to claim that this PROVES that the “Justice System” is biased against Republicans?

BTW: I thought I had a good recall of modern American History, but who were the indictments from the Kennedy Administration?

And none from LBJ’s tenure? As crooked a political operator as he was? That’s impressive (for the cover-ups, that is)!

ADD: Slow on the keyboard again, sorry, Wendell!

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:49:32am

re: #208 makeitstop

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Some track record, there, Spanky.

You know it!

Spanky Trump
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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:50:45am

re: #248 ObserverArt

You know it!

Heh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:52:14am

re: #247 Jay C

Wonder how long t will take for some RW blogger to post this chart, and use it to claim that this PROVES that the “Justice System” is biased against Republicans?

BTW: I thought I had a good recall of modern American History, but who were the indictments from the Kennedy Administration?

And none from LBJ’s tenure? As crooked a political operator as he was? That’s impressive (for the cover-ups, that is)!

Drawing blanks. By far the Democratic administration that had the most problems with investigations and convictions was the Truman one. I think Truman was a very good President but that was a problem for him and I think one of his weaknesses also was with his judiciary picks. FDR and even Ike did better than him at that. Ike’s SCOTUS picks get a an A- from me for Warren and Brennan alone and Stewart was solid as well and Harland while more conservative than I’d like was a reasonable conservative jurist.

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:53:19am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Norm Eisen ✔
@NormEisen
Friends, no coincidence that the Cohen deal implicating Trump personally in Russia contacts during campaign is announced just AFTER Mueller locked Trump in on collusion in writing—& just BEFORE Trump will be face to face with Putin. As I have said all along: Bob loves surprises

Does this mean in a few hours Trump is going to go off on Twitter like never before?

I hope so.

I want it to be clear to all the world he is not fit for office. Apparently he hasn’t been crazy enough to make it clear yet. Mueller can push him over that edge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:54:49am

re: #251 ObserverArt

Does this mean in a few hours Trump is going to go off on Twitter like never before?

I hope so.

I want it to be clear to all the world he is not fit for office. Apparently he hasn’t been crazy enough to make it clear yet. Mueller can push him over that edge.

Mueller has to present a case that is so clear, convincing and extensive that the GOP cannot just ignore it without damaging themselves by appearing complicit.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:54:52am

Don’t even think about getting comfortable.

The Senate Will Be Competitive Again In 2020, But Republicans Are Favored

fivethirtyeight.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:59:35am

re: #253 Decatur Deb

Don’t even think about getting comfortable.

The Senate Will Be Competitive Again In 2020, But Republicans Are Favored

fivethirtyeight.com

Top targets outta be: Gardner, Collins, Tillis, open Arizona, and Ernst. Likewise, I think they will target: Shaheen, Peters, Jones, Smith, and Warner.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 7:59:56am

All about finding the right candidates for the right state.

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CongoJack  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:02:08am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

Top targets outta be: Gardner, Collins, Tillis, open Arizona, and Ernst. Likewise, I think they will target: Shaheen, Peters, Jones, Smith, and Warner.

Gardner I’m pretty sure is gone. I can’t name a single person who will want him back. He is horrible (he was also a horrible house member for my area).

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:03:26am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

Top targets outta be: Gardner, Collins, Tillis, open Arizona, and Ernst. Likewise, I think they will target: Shaheen, Peters, Jones, Smith, and Warner.

Doug Jones is so marginal Wife and I will have to decide whether to support him or put all our effort and available cash across the border in FL.

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Danack  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:03:44am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

You know when you support a guy who had a history of creeping around in teenage beautiful paegant locker rooms, maybe not the best to call your opponents pedophiles, mmkay.

On the one hand, any talk of suggesting someone is a paedophile without any real evidence is kind of gross.

On the other hand:

So this is a photo that exists

………………………………………..yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:03:48am

re: #256 CongoJack

Gardner I’m pretty sure is gone. I can’t name a single person who will want him back. He is horrible (he was also a horrible house member for my area).

Yeah I think he was the last of Colorado’s former red state status. Who do you think would run against him? I don’t know Colorado’s Democrats though I do know Boulder where my aunt lives just had their former Rep- Jared Polis elected Governor.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:04:31am

This will never get old.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:05:06am

re: #258 Danack

On the one hand, any talk of suggesting someone is a paedophile without any real evidence is kind of gross.

On the other hand:

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Yeah I can assure you that I have plenty of uncles and older cousins who are fathers of daughters who don’t have photos like that. Again, it’s like when Trump makes fun of how people look, maybe look at yourself before you do that one.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:06:31am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is better than the one with the eggs:

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I foresee lots of happy squirrels in that yard.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:08:01am
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CongoJack  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:08:12am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think he was the last of Colorado’s former red state status. Who do you think would run against him? I don’t know Colorado’s Democrats though I do know Boulder where my aunt lives just had their former Rep- Jared Polis elected Governor.

I worked for Mark Udall (who lost to Gardner) and Udall ran a horrible campaign. I did a lot of canvassing that year… it was a crazy year here in CO. As who will run against him - I’d say Hickenlooper if he didn’t want to foolishly run for President (as I’ve heard whispered). I really can’t think of any big names to run against Gardner but CO has a ton more people (and much more liberal people) than we did even a few years ago. Just by aggregate of people Gardner should in theory have a hard re-election year.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:09:14am

re: #264 CongoJack

I worked for Mark Udall (who lost to Gardner) and Udall ran a horrible campaign. I did a lot of canvassing that year… it was a crazy year here in CO. As who will run against him - I’d say Hickenlooper if he didn’t want to foolishly run for President (as I’ve heard whispered). I really can’t think of any big names to run against Gardner but CO has a ton more people (and much more liberal people) than we did even a few years ago. Just by aggregate of people Gardner should in theory have a hard re-election year.

Yeah I think Gardner along with Collins would be top challenges. In fact, I’d say Gardner more so than Collins since Colorado like my own state has become increasingly blue and he doesn’t have her longtime tenure either.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:10:48am

re: #225 William Lewis

Well, actually they can roll just fine if you maintain a constant 1G in the maneuver. For example the Boeing 707 prototype:

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Video

That takeoff was shaky af.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:11:21am

Thread.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:14:34am

Your daily reminder:

Robert Mueller = American War Hero

donnie = A dotard that walks around with used toilet paper on the bottom of his shoe

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:14:53am

re: #264 CongoJack

I worked for Mark Udall (who lost to Gardner) and Udall ran a horrible campaign. I did a lot of canvassing that year… it was a crazy year here in CO. As who will run against him - I’d say Hickenlooper if he didn’t want to foolishly run for President (as I’ve heard whispered). I really can’t think of any big names to run against Gardner but CO has a ton more people (and much more liberal people) than we did even a few years ago. Just by aggregate of people Gardner should in theory have a hard re-election year.

Heh, I have heard Hickenlooper mentioned as VP candidate for Ohio Johnny Kasich’s bipartisan third party dream presidential ticket.

Kasich joked it might not work though as Hickenlooper is too long a name to fit on posters and bumper stickers.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:17:53am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:17:54am

re: #268 Dr. Matt

Your daily reminder:

Robert Mueller = American War Hero

donnie = A dotard that walks around with used toilet paper on the bottom of his shoe

Per wiki: After waiting a year so a knee injury could heal, Mueller was accepted for officer training in the United States Marine Corps in 1968, attending training at Parris Island, Officer Candidate School, Army Ranger School, and Army jump school. Of all these, he said later that he considered Ranger School the most valuable. “[It] more than anything teaches you about how you react with no sleep and nothing to eat.”[21][22]
Contrast this with Bonespurs. Mueller from a very young age has been about service to his country. As I’ve said, Mueller is the man that Trumpers think Donnie is and Donnie is the man that Trumpers think liberals are.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:19:58am

re: #269 ObserverArt

Heh, I have heard Hickenlooper mentioned as VP candidate for Ohio Johnny Kasich’s bipartisan third party dream presidential ticket.

Kasich joked it might not work though as Hickenlooper is too long a name to fit on posters and bumper stickers.

Kasich-Hickenlooper doesn’t have a good ring to it. I dunno. I just said it aloud and it sounded like John Jacob Jingleheimersmith, that’s my name too. And I don’t think Hickenlooper would want to do anything to potentially hinder a Dem’s election to the Presidency. Don’t know too much about him though he’s from what I’ve heard said to be more moderate than other prominent Colorado Democrats.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:20:03am
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bd(Redacted)  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:20:24am

LOL, watching this with no sound tells you all you need to know.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:20:30am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Those credentials alone secures his legacy as both a badass and as a patriot. He walked the walk, and talked the talk.

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KGxvi  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:20:31am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think Gardner along with Collins would be top challenges. In fact, I’d say Gardner more so than Collins since Colorado like my own state has become increasingly blue and he doesn’t have her longtime tenure either.

Don’t sleep on Iowa (Ernst), either. If Trump’s trade wars keep fucking over farmers, it could further flip Iowa - where King was the only Republican to survive this year.

Not sure what the bench looks like in places like Arizona and North Carolina, but they’re also worth keeping an eye on

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:20:55am

re: #273 Patricia Kayden

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I never thought I’d see this but the NRA is flopping and failing. Good. I’m for the right to bear arms but the NRA is rotten to its core.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:20:56am

re: #274 bd(soros funded)

LOL, watching this with no sound tells you all you need to know.

Donnie knows he’s completely rat-fucked. Fat Hitler is panicked.

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KGxvi  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:22:00am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Donnie knows he’s completely rat-fucked. Fat Hitler is panicked.

I’m surprised nobody has done a Downfall Trump bunker scene yet… or isn’t that too 2016?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:22:08am

re: #268 Dr. Matt

Your daily reminder:

Robert Mueller = American War Hero

donnie = A dotard that walks around with used toilet paper on the bottom of his shoe

That needs to be a viral tweet. It’s so true. The attempt to destroy and demonize Robert Mueller says a lot about the modern GOP. They will go to any lengths to attack their perceived enemies — including those who have served our country honorably and who are members of their party.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:22:28am

Donnie cultists are all confused because Hillary and Obama are still free and not locked up and there is no wall being built….must be really, really frustrating for them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:23:38am

re: #275 Dr. Matt

Those credentials alone secures his legacy as both a badass and as a patriot. He walked the walk, and talked the talk.

When you consider that Mueller was a product of privilege, it makes it all the more admirable. As I’ve said, I probably do have some ideological differences with Mueller, the man is a registered Republican after all but he’s always been about service to country first. It will piss off the Republicans greatly but I hope one of the first Congressional Medal of Freedoms if he hasn’t received it already goes to Mueller in the next Dem administration. This guy has served honorably in our armed forces, prosecuted gangsters and terrorists, and he may yet get the biggest crook we’ve ever made President. We owe him a great debt and thanks. He’s also from what I understand a really dedicated husband and father and a consummate professional, I’d be honored to work for such a man.

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bd(Redacted)  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:24:04am

re: #279 KGxvi

I’m surprised nobody has done a Downfall Trump bunker scene yet… or isn’t that too 2016?

Trump’s casts change too often to do one that will last……yet

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:24:35am

Robert Mueller if the GOP hadn’t gone insane all those years ago would have been a perfect AG for them. In fact, I think W’s pick of him for FBI head was better than Clinton picking Louis Freeh or Obama picking James Comey.

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sagehen  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:24:47am

re: #110 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

We can land a robot on Mars, but we can’t figure out how to pay veterans on Earth.

My ATM never has more than a 5-minute lines, and the results are accurate, immediate and verified by paper trail. But they “can’t figure out” how to make voting machines work properly…

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bd(Redacted)  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:25:02am

re: #281 Dr. Matt

Donnie cultists are all confused because Hillary and Obama are still free and not locked up and there is no wall being built….must be really, really frustrating for them.

And Mueller & Trump were supposed to be secretly working together to take down all the Dem and RINO pedophiles?!?!

WTH!?!?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:25:57am

re: #276 KGxvi

Don’t sleep on Iowa (Ernst), either. If Trump’s trade wars keep fucking over farmers, it could further flip Iowa - where King was the only Republican to survive this year.

Not sure what the bench looks like in places like Arizona and North Carolina, but they’re also worth keeping an eye on

Yeah I think Ernst will be a top target since that’s a seat and state that was an Obama one and that would be negatively impacted. I think AZ and NC definitely should be targeted because I think they’re both states we can win in 2020 and in NC’s case, a state Obama won and came close in the second time.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:27:12am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Donnie knows he’s completely rat-fucked. Fat Hitler is panicked.

Trump will stand before the camera with a rabbit in his hand and tell the world that he has never seen a rabbit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:28:31am

re: #274 bd(soros funded)

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LOL, watching this with no sound tells you all you need to know.

I like the Dumpster fire smoking in the background (yes, I know that’s not what it really is, but let me have my metaphor…)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:29:45am

I’m not a big Comey fan but this also stands out to me about Mueller’s character:
On March 10, 2004, while United States Attorney General John Ashcroft was at the George Washington University Hospital for gallbladder surgery,[44] James Comey, the then deputy attorney general, received a call from Ashcroft’s wife informing him that White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card and White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales were about to visit Ashcroft to convince him to renew a program of warrantless wiretapping under the Terrorist Surveillance Program which the DOJ ruled unconstitutional.[44] Ashcroft refused to sign, as he had previously agreed, but the following day the White House renewed the program anyway.[44] Mueller and Comey then threatened to resign.[45] On March 12, 2004, after private, individual meetings with Mueller and Comey at the White House, the president supported changing the program to satisfy the concerns of Mueller, Ashcroft, and Comey.[32]:289-290[45]

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:29:55am

re: #283 bd(soros funded)

Trump’s casts change too often to do one that will last……yet

Trump’s more like the character of Poppy from Kingsman Golden Circle, who think she knows better than everyone else, and feeds the disloyal people into a shredder and feeds it to her minions.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:30:26am

That actually makes me realize that Ashcroft was probably the “least bad” of Bush’s three AGs between him, Gonzo, and Mukaskey.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:31:54am

re: #269 ObserverArt

Heh, I have heard Hickenlooper mentioned as VP candidate for Ohio Johnny Kasich’s bipartisan third party dream presidential ticket.

Kasich joked it might not work though as Hickenlooper is too long a name to fit on posters and bumper stickers.

They could go with Hick! Think of how the rubes would relate!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:32:07am

Trump really doesn’t remind me of Hitler TBH. Nazism/National Socialism as Walter Sobchak said at least has an ethos. Trump? Trump is about what protects Trump and furthers Trump. And that’s why it’s an unique danger compared with Reaganism or the Bush Doctrine. The former you can say were terrible ideas for the country and I’d be right there with you but they were not about the explicit benefit of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:32:09am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Robert Mueller if the GOP hadn’t gone insane all those years ago would have been a perfect AG for them. In fact, I think W’s pick of him for FBI head was better than Clinton picking Louis Freeh or Obama picking James Comey.

Hell, Robert Mueller could have been the second coming of Ronny Raygun if he choose that route.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:33:44am

re: #295 Dr. Matt

Hell, Robert Mueller could have been the second coming of Ronny Raygun if he choose that route.

TBH I see him as this generation’s George Marshall. And I mean that as the strongest compliment because like Harry Truman, I see General Marshall as the finest American the WWII era produced.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:33:59am

re: #274 bd(soros funded)

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LOL, watching this with no sound tells you all you need to know.

EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME! I AM LYING HERE!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:37:21am

Donnie: “Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!”“

Also Donnie: “At issue was the development of a Trump Tower hotel in Moscow, which Trump explained as a “well-known project” that “everyone knew about.”

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:39:48am
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bd(Redacted)  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:39:55am

re: #297 MsJ

EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME! I AM LYING HERE!

hahaha!

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:40:10am

Of course he is.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:40:17am

from electoral-vote.com this AM

If the president retweets something on Twitter, is it archived under the terms of the Presidential Records Act of 1978? If so, doesn’t that give some tweets attention they don’t deserve? M.O., Cambridge, MA

…the folks at NARA {National Archives and Records Administration] tend to err on the side of caution. So, yes, they archive retweets, which means future scholars will have the pleasure of writing about a president who enjoys the idea of trying his immediate predecessor and his political enemies for treason on the basis that…he doesn’t like them.

remember those nasty tweets yesterday?
you know the one with all those folks behind bars

and worse, those vile things he retweets?

yup. all part of official national history now

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:40:42am

re: #274 bd(soros funded)

LOL, watching this with no sound tells you all you need to know.

He’s going out of his mind with fear. I could smell it from here.

We’re just about at the breaking point, I think.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:41:10am

re: #299 Ace-o-aces

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They do that a lot. NRO loves comparing liberals to McCarthy even though their snobby piece of shit founder got his start as an apologist for McCarthy.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:42:01am

re: #279 KGxvi

I’m surprised nobody has done a Downfall Trump bunker scene yet… or isn’t that too 2016?

With video like the one Politico posted, who needs one?

Maybe he’ll just opt to stay in South America.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:42:38am

re: #291 lawhawk

Trump’s more like the character of Poppy from Kingsman Golden Circle, who think she knows better than everyone else, and feeds the disloyal people into a shredder and feeds it to her minions.

It is dangerous for the rest of us if you think you have the ultimate ideology

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:44:20am

re: #297 MsJ

EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME! I AM LYING HERE!

(enrico) ratzo rizzo to a cab, as he crosses a NYC street against the light

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:44:32am

McCarthyism was also done on accusations, shoddy research, etc. Mueller has gone out of his way to get everything as accurate as possible. If this really was McCarthyism as I’ve seen so many idiotic people including Glenn Greenwald claim, everyone remotely associated with Trump would have been on trial by now.

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:46:11am

re: #301 MsJ

Of course he is.

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Great pic there: it looks like Farage’s head fell off, and Donny had to help him put it back on….

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:46:24am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron-in-chief is soooo full of shit this morning:

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he really can’t believe this fairy tale crap that he is spewing?

I’m sure he does. He’s absolutely crazy. Reality is whatever he wants it to be, and Fox reinforces it every hour of the day.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:47:25am

It’s crazy that just a couple of weeks ago I was asking ‘Who is this Stedman guy?’

He’s really putting in the work, though. Gonna make a name for himself.

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:48:11am

re: #54 MsJ

This guy’s fucking nuts. Not that there’s any great surprise there.

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They all are, every single one of them, and they’ve been normalized.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:48:34am

re: #309 Jay C

Great pic there: it looks like Farage’s head fell off, and Donny had to help him put it back on….

This one had me in tears.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:50:08am

Oh, man. Looks like he’s canceled his playdate with Uncle Daddy Vlad.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:51:40am

re: #314 makeitstop

Oh, man. Looks like he’s canceled his playdate with Uncle Daddy Vlad.

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Oh hi Jared. How are you? //

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:51:44am

Tonight Lumpy is going to have 60 minute in-depth look into the Whitewater Scandal.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:53:10am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Tonight Lumpy is going to have 60 minute in-depth look into the Whitewater Scandal.

And Tucker’s going to find more horny animals to talk about for an hour.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:53:19am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Tonight Lumpy is going to have 60 minute in-depth look into the Whitewater Scandal.

Will he look at Teapot Dome or not because that’s a Republican scandal?

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:53:49am

re: #311 makeitstop

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It’s crazy that just a couple of weeks ago I was asking ‘Who is this Stedman guy?’

He’s really putting in the work, though. Gonna make a name for himself.

I have seen his really great timeline for a few weeks now. He seems very solid for everything he has said. And he often has receipts. A very good follow, IMHO.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:54:21am

re: #274 bd(soros funded)

Projection much?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:55:06am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Tonight Lumpy is going to have 60 minute in-depth look into the Whitewater Scandal.

LET’S ALL GO BACK TO THE 90s!

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:55:13am

All-Republican Government Ends as It Began, In Disarray

remember make America great again? here’s what we got:

- rattled financial markets
- reduced farm exports
- raised manufacturing costs with his tariff policies
- blame slow growth on the Federal Reserve for raising interest rates
- threatens General Motors for closing plants.

The president who promised law and order”
- fired the FBI director
- fired his attorney general
- his ‘acting’ attorney general has been openly hostile to the russia probe.

Mexico would pay for the wall?
- now the American taxpayers should pay as a condition of keeping their government open.

“Thus completes the chaotic circle of governance by Trump and the GOP Congress: fanciful promises, contradictory priorities, presidential provocations that Republicans won’t rein in. Voters responded this month by handing the House to Democrats.”

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:56:47am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Tonight Lumpy is going to have 60 minute in-depth look into the Whitewater Scandal.

BUT WHAT ABOUT HER E-MAILS CATTLE FUTURES?!

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:57:49am

The best part about all of this shit that’s flying today?

Mueller’s got Trump’s (probably) perjurious statements on all of it. In writing.

Timing. Is. Everything.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:58:09am

So, I check out that Politico video clip without the sound, and yeah, Trump’s panicking. Big time flop sweat. You can practically smell the stench of fear.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:58:10am

Heh…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:59:06am

re: #326 lawhawk

Heh…

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I guess Whittaker’s part of the D-d-d-eep state. now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:59:21am

so, this is happening in Louisville:

Trinity High School is a Catholic, all-boys, college preparatory high school in St. Matthews, Kentucky

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 8:59:47am

re: #324 makeitstop

The best part about all of this shit that’s flying today?

Mueller’s got Trump’s (probably) perjurious statements on all of it. In writing.

Timing. Is. Everything.

That’s what’s got Trump so panicky.

He thinks he’s smart enough that he can just BS his way out of anything, and in some fairness, that’s what he’s always done and by and large, it’s worked. But this time is different - it’s the world of politics, not the world of business.

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:01:21am

re: #110 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

We can land a robot on Mars, but we can’t figure out how to pay veterans on Earth.

Trump can’t figure out how to get in a limo parked right in front of him but he decides with his gut what’s real.

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:02:36am

re: #274 bd(soros funded)

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LOL, watching this with no sound tells you all you need to know.

I guess Cohen isn’t one of those innocent persons that Mueller is destroying their life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:03:21am
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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:03:59am

What ever happened to Felix Sater, anyway?

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retired cynic  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:07:49am

re: #208 makeitstop

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Some track record, there, Spanky.

BUT judges. And big tax cut. That’s all they care about.

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:07:50am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

$3,874 CAD = $2,917 USD

You’re rich!

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:12:03am

re: #329 Dr Lizardo

That’s what’s got Trump so panicky.

He thinks he’s smart enough that he can just BS his way out of anything, and in some fairness, that’s what he’s always done and by and large, it’s worked. But this time is different - it’s the world of politics, not the world of business.

- he’s gonna rely on ‘i dont recall’ to avoid perjury

- that doesnt mean all those things didnt actually happen
- and they will be damning enough in their gravity - they wont be reduced to ‘no big deal’

that he ‘cant remember’ these big doings a mere 2 years or so later, is going to make it worse, not better

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:12:10am

re: #274 bd(soros funded)

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LOL, watching this with no sound tells you all you need to know.

A human being would have stroked out by now.

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sagehen  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:12:30am

re: #326 lawhawk

Heh…

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found in the replies:

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Danack  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:14:40am
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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:15:01am

re: #337 Skip Intro

A human being would have stroked out by now.

It’s still early.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:16:27am

re: #339 Danack

Trump is clearly “Individual 1”; there’s simply no one else it can be.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:16:33am
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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:17:52am

re: #314 makeitstop

Oh, man. Looks like he’s canceled his playdate with Uncle Daddy Vlad.

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Putin must have told him to do that so that he could look “independant” and “presidential”.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:17:53am

Could be some 400-pound hacker in his mother’s basment, amirite?

*snort*

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bd(Redacted)  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:18:02am

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

Trump is clearly “Individual 1”; there’s simply no one else it can be.

Trump, Hannity & 1 other guy were his 3 only clients

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:18:07am

re: #339 Danack

Could be anyone. Could be me! Could be you!

Could be a 300 pound guy sitting in the oval office…okay.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:18:38am

re: #343 William Lewis

Putin must have told him to do that so that he could look “independant” and “presidential”.

Coulda been Bolton, Kelly or Mattis.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:18:46am

re: #345 bd(soros funded)

Trump, Hannity & 1 other guy were his 3 only clients

And neither of the other two had anything to do with Organization 1 (that we know of).

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Dr. Matt  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:19:17am

Federal agents raid office of attorney who handled Trump Organization taxes for 12 years

But, this may not have anything to do with Donnie.

The nature of their visit was not known, but Ald. Burke (14th) has dodged dozens of federal investigations over five decades in Chicago politics. Federal agents also showed up to Burke’s ward office and papered over the windows there.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:20:21am

Elliott Broidy was the third client of Cohen.

He of the RNC purse strings.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:21:20am

re: #347 Dr Lizardo

Coulda been Bolton, Kelly or Mattis.

Nah, only daddy saying so would get him to cancel a previously arranged meeting with Putin. He’d just cuss out those three nuts and go anyway.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:23:52am

re: #349 Dr. Matt

Federal agents raid office of attorney who handled Trump Organization taxes for 12 years

But, this may not have anything to do with Donnie.

Fucking Windy City (the reason it was named that)…politicians. (Chicago is my home and native land…I spent 40 some odd years there; born and raised.)

Burke has been targeted for defeat by Congressman-elect Jesus “Chuy” Garcia because of his property-tax appeal work on the riverfront tower that bears the name of President Donald Trump.

Garcia, a former alderman and departing member of the Cook County Board of Commissioners, said Burke’s work for Trump was disrespectful to his Hispanic constituents, who are now a majority in his ward.

“The fact that he has been Trump’s lawyer on reducing his property taxes and has been part of the property tax system in Chicago that has affected working people more than anybody else in a regressive manner are issues that have to be taken into account,” Garcia said earlier this year.

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blueraven  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:24:01am

hmmmm…lot of federal raids happening all of a sudden. All with at least some ties to DJT.

nytimes.com

Deutsche Bank Offices Are Searched in Money Laundering Investigation

Nov. 29, 2018

BERLIN — One hundred seventy officers searched the headquarters of Deutsche Bank in Frankfurt and five other sites in the area early Thursday as part of a money-laundering investigation involving hundreds of millions of euros, prosecutors in Frankfurt said.

Two employees, who were not publicly identified but whose ages were given as 50 and 46, and other “unidentified people in positions of authority” are suspected of failing to report possible money laundering for transactions worth 311 million euros, or more than $350 million.

The money flowed to organizations in the British Virgin Islands before spring 2016, prosecutors said in an emailed statement.

The German bank confirmed in a statement that the police were investigating several of its offices in Germany and said the investigation related to the Panama Papers, a trove of files that put a spotlight on global money laundering. “We are cooperating fully with the authorities,” Deutsche said in the statement.

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gocart mozart  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:27:12am
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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:28:31am

Trending on Twitter right now…

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:29:05am

re: #353 blueraven

Chicago raid on alderman with ties to Trump taxes?

Hmmm… that opens door to potential criminal charges in another jurisdiction: Illinois and the NDIL. Guess the docket watchers will have to add another docket to watch (besides ED/SDNY and EDVA).

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sagehen  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:29:25am

re: #353 blueraven

hmmmm…lot of federal raids happening all of a sudden. All with at least some ties to DJT.

And it’s not even Friday.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:30:21am

I can’t help but think that at this very moment, there is someone in Trump’s inner circle of advisers and family that knows that the best way out of this is the Nixon strategy: resign and hope the VP pardons him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s someone in Trump’s inner circle - or maybe even the GOP leadership - who is trying to convince Trump to step down. If that’s the strategy, they probably want to hold out until February 2019, so that Pence can serve two additional terms. Not that he has any serious chances for reelection if he decides to go full Gerald Ford on Trump and give him a blanket pardon; if Pence does that, he’s just a caretaker President until 2020.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:30:40am

I miss mornings where I didn’t have 17 crazy pieces of news about the President to catch up on.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:31:38am

The responses are depressing. Great Guy! No Charisma! Knows his shit!

These are supporters. I guess we are permanently in the Cult of Personality as President forever.

FUCK.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:32:01am
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Belafon  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:32:02am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Headline, 2020: The Last Coal Fired Power Plant in the US Closes
Trump: The war on coal is over! We won!

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:32:19am

re: #353 blueraven

hmmmm…lot of federal raids happening all of a sudden. All with at least some ties to DJT.

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nytimes.com

Deutsche Bank Offices Are Searched in Money Laundering Investigation

Nov. 29, 2018

Maybe the Feds are putting a big squeeze on Trump associates that might have some info Mueller needs. Or it is leading to others worried these raids will be turning up stuff they don’t want known about their relationships with Trump.

It’s popcorn time. It does feel like maybe Mueller has hit or is very near the apogee of the curve and things are about to start to head on the down slope which means all of this will be increasing in speed.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:33:04am

re: #353 blueraven

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:33:13am

re: #358 Dr Lizardo

I can’t help but think that at this very moment, there is someone in Trump’s inner circle of advisers and family that knows that the best way out of this is the Nixon strategy: resign and hope the VP pardons him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s someone in Trump’s inner circle - or maybe even the GOP leadership - who is trying to convince Trump to step down. If that’s the strategy, they probably want to hold out until February 2019, so that Pence can serve two additional terms. Not that he has any serious chances for reelection if he decides to go full Gerald Ford on Trump and give him a blanket pardon; if Pence does that, he’s just a caretaker President until 2020.

I agree with your thoughts but trump’s ego will never allow it. He won’t resign (only if he says something like “You don’t deserve me!” but even then I don’t see it.)

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:33:33am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

I miss mornings where I didn’t have 17 crazy pieces of news about the President to catch up on.

I miss a functioning government with people who had a clue.

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bd(Redacted)  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:35:48am

re: #360 MsJ

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The responses are depressing. Great Guy! No Charisma! Knows his shit!

These are supporters. I guess we are permanently in the Cult of Personality as President forever.

FUCK.

John Kerry is awesome but he is 74 years old now. Throw me in the PC jail but someone younger would be great.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:35:48am

re: #360 MsJ

The responses are depressing. Great Guy! No Charisma! Knows his shit!

These are supporters. I guess we are permanently in the Cult of Personality as President forever.

FUCK.

Tell me when we weren’t, when a non-incumbant was elected that wasn’t charismatic.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:36:39am
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bd(Redacted)  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:36:44am

re: #368 Belafon

Tell me when we weren’t, when a non-incumbant was elected that wasn’t charismatic.

You are seen as more charismatic once elected too.

//

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:37:33am

re: #365 MsJ

I agree with your thoughts but trump’s ego will never allow it. He won’t resign (only if he says something like “You don’t deserve me!” but even then I don’t see it.)

I can see it, I think he bailed on many business projects and left others like banks and municipalities holding the paper and costs.

And yes, he would frame it as he can’t get anything done in DC it is too corrupt and they didn’t want to work with The Great Trump™.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:37:34am

re: #358 Dr Lizardo

I can’t help but think that at this very moment, there is someone in Trump’s inner circle of advisers and family that knows that the best way out of this is the Nixon strategy: resign and hope the VP pardons him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s someone in Trump’s inner circle - or maybe even the GOP leadership - who is trying to convince Trump to step down. If that’s the strategy, they probably want to hold out until February 2019, so that Pence can serve two additional terms. Not that he has any serious chances for reelection if he decides to go full Gerald Ford on Trump and give him a blanket pardon; if Pence does that, he’s just a caretaker President until 2020.

Trump’s BFFs in Congress have been quiet as church mice this morning, save for Ryan remarking that Says Who should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Cowards.

If their strategy is to hang on until Pence is in a more advantageous position, they better damn well hope that things don’t completely implode before that.

After the deluge of news this morning, their Fatted Calf might do something really stupid and desperate.

EDITED TO ADD: Even if he does resign and Pence pardons the federal charges, Trump’s in the same box as Manafort - still has to deal with the state charges. I’m hoping for total seizure of assets, myself.

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gwangung  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:38:20am

re: #367 bd(soros funded)

John Kerry is awesome but he is 74 years old now. Throw me in the PC jail but someone younger would be great.

That’s not being ageist; being President takes a toll on the body, and I’m very skeptical of anyone that old being able to handle it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:39:01am

re: #360 MsJ

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The responses are depressing. Great Guy! No Charisma! Knows his shit!

These are supporters. I guess we are permanently in the Cult of Personality as President forever.

FUCK.

I like Kerry, campaigned my ass for him fourteen years ago but his time has passed.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:39:18am

re: #372 makeitstop

Trump’s BFFs have been quiet as church mice this morning, save for Ryan remarking that Says Who should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Cowards.

If their strategy is to hang on until Pence is in a more advantageous position, they better damn well hope that things don’t completely implode before that.

After the deluge of news this morning, their Fatted Calf might do something really stupid and desperate.

It could be they’re starting to distance themselves from Trump. It’s too little, too late, of course but they’ll still try.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:39:49am

re: #367 bd(soros funded)

John Kerry is awesome but he is 74 years old now. Throw me in the PC jail but someone younger would be great.

Ditto. I admire the hell out of Kerry but he’s even older than Trump. Let’s go with someone younger and as much as I like him, I feel the same way about Biden too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:41:28am

re: #373 gwangung

That’s not being ageist; being President takes a toll on the body, and I’m very skeptical of anyone that old being able to handle it.

Correct. I’m sure Kerry would be a fine President and have capable people around him but I want someone in it for the long run.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:42:58am

re: #369 MsJ

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Why not? There are less absurd things to believe like what you and your political mentors the Pauls believe about the role of government.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:44:40am

re: #369 MsJ

…If healthcare is a right, is food as well?

Deserves discussion.

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Weaselone  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:45:12am

re: #360 MsJ

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The responses are depressing. Great Guy! No Charisma! Knows his shit!

These are supporters. I guess we are permanently in the Cult of Personality as President forever.

FUCK.

Kerry’s supporters are just being realistic. Kerry is getting a bit long in the tooth, and while he’s a solid and knowledgeable public servant, his level of charisma would be a handicap in getting the people who keep their head’s buried up to their shoulders in their rectums between election days to turn out.

Also, he’s from Massachusetts. I say this as a person from Massachusetts, but being a Masshole basically has the same impact on a politicians chances of being elected President as feeding a cute infant to an alligator. See RMoney, Mittens and Dukakis, Michael.

Shorter Version:
Kerry = Dukakis

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:45:44am

re: #358 Dr Lizardo

I can’t help but think that at this very moment, there is someone in Trump’s inner circle of advisers and family that knows that the best way out of this is the Nixon strategy: resign and hope extort the VP into pardon[ing] him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:46:09am

re: #369 MsJ

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fuck off, Tommy

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:46:23am

re: #375 Dr Lizardo

It could be they’re starting to distance themselves from Trump. It’s too little, too late, of course but they’ll still try.

Maybe I’m just cynical (who knew??), but I still read their silence as consent/complicity.

Ryan and McConnell were practically drowning in Russian money during the midterms, and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if they got a nice chunk of change on the side, too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:47:33am

re: #380 Weaselone

Kerry’s supporters are just being realistic. Kerry is getting a bit long in the tooth, and while he’s a solid and knowledgeable public servant, his level of charisma would be a handicap in getting the people who keep their head’s buried up to their shoulders in their rectums between election days to turn out.

Also, he’s from Massachusetts. I say this as a person from Massachusetts, but being a Masshole basically has the same impact on a politicians chances of being elected President as feeding a cute infant to an alligator. See RMoney, Mittens and Dukakis, Michael.

Shorter Version:
Kerry = Dukakis

Kerry unfortunately was a more slightly successful Dukakis fourteen years ago It sucks because I think he’s a great guy and statesman who got a raw deal and I don’t blame him for wanting a second go at it but he’s not the person to defeat Trump IMO. I think we really need someone younger. I know it sounds ageist but we really do need to contrast that that Trump in fact is the low energy one. We tried the experienced one to go against Trump the first time. I’d go with someone a little more raw yet qualified. I do want to see who is advising these candidates though.

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KGxvi  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:47:40am

re: #378 HappyWarrior

Why not? There are less absurd things to believe like what you and your political mentors the Pauls believe about the role of government.

I’ve mostly come around on the idea of universal basic income. Done right, I think it could replace a solid chunk of the social safety net while allowing people to better live their lives as they see fit. Just got to figure out that’s “done right” part

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Teukka  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:48:55am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

Deserves discussion.

I believe that it is unbecoming a 1st world country to have people starving on its streets. I believe that on a planet which has the resources to feed, house and clothe everyone of its inhabitants, it is no more that just that the richest countries at minimum provide the base necessities when crises strike (nothing luxury, a decent meal, a decent roof over the head, decent items of clothing).

But then again, my archheretic mom instilled all sorts of commie leftie values in me, like one of my holy rules, “Thou shalt not leave my table hungry.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:49:57am

re: #385 KGxvi

I’ve mostly come around on the idea of universal basic income. Done right, I think it could replace a solid chunk of the social safety net while allowing people to better live their lives as they see fit. Just got to figure out that’s “done right” part

You know, I know you lean libertarian and I’ve gotten a couple libertarian buds to admit they’re sympathetic to that and they definitely agreed they’d rather the government spend more on social programs than the military. My belief is this. I believe the government since it is we the people should be investing in we the people and that means things like education, infrastructure, health care, and yes making sure people don’t go hungry. Massie is a Paul style wackjob that has his head up Von Mises’ Institute’s ass and doesn’t realize that economics is about living and breathing people.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:50:18am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:50:51am

re: #383 makeitstop

Maybe I’m just cynical (who knew??), but I still read their silence as consent/complicity.

Ryan and McConnell were practically drowning in Russian money during the midterms, and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if they got a nice chunk of change on the side, too.

Mordito (a tiny bite), in Italian politics.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:50:58am

re: #386 Teukka

I believe that it is unbecoming a 1st world country to have people starving on its streets. I believe that on a planet which has the resources to feed, house and clothe everyone of its inhabitants, it is no more that just that the richest countries at minimum provide the base necessities when crises strike (nothing luxury, a decent meal, a decent roof over the head, decent items of clothing).

But then again, my archheretic mom instilled all sorts of commie leftie values in me, like one of my holy rules, “Thou shalt not leave my table hungry.”

To expand on this, I don’t find it heartwarming at all when I read about go fund mes for favorite teachers who can’t afford their medical bills. I love seeing communities rally for a loved one but I hate that it has to get to that point in the self proclaimed best country in the world.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:52:19am

re: #345 bd(soros funded)

Trump, Hannity & 1 other guy were his 3 only clients

how many of them ‘became the president of the united states’?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:52:20am

re: #386 Teukka

I believe that it is unbecoming a 1st world country to have people starving on its streets. I believe that on a planet which has the resources to feed, house and clothe everyone of its inhabitants, it is no more that just that the richest countries at minimum provide the base necessities when crises strike (nothing luxury, a decent meal, a decent roof over the head, decent items of clothing).

But then again, my archheretic mom instilled all sorts of commie leftie values in me, like one of my holy rules, “Thou shalt not leave my table hungry.”

That will be significant if we become a 1st world country again.

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Teukka  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:52:32am

re: #390 HappyWarrior

To expand on this, I don’t find it heartwarming at all when I read about go fund mes for favorite teachers who can’t afford their medical bills. I love seeing communities rally for a loved one but I hate that it has to get to that point in the self proclaimed best country in the world.

One of my tenets is a paraphrase of Proverbs 3:27, “do not withhold help from those who need it, when it is in your power to act.”

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:53:03am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

Deserves discussion.

Well, Massie’s a Republican, so he’s obviously floating this idea in the spirit of scornful mockery, but IMO, it’s a great idea. Not sure exactly how the system works, but widely expanding the food subsidy to a broader segment of the economy sounds like a better allocation of government funds than a lot of stuff I can think of.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:53:05am

What about Amy Klobuchar? I know some of us are worried about women candidates but she impresses me a lot.

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blueraven  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:53:33am

Inside the White House’s Quiet Campaign to Create a Supreme Court Opening

NY TIMES

One person who knows both men remarked on the affinity between Mr. Trump and Justice Kennedy, which is not obvious at first glance. Justice Kennedy is bookish and abstract, while Mr. Trump is earthy and direct.

But they had a connection, one Mr. Trump was quick to note in the moments after his first address to Congress in February 2017. As he made his way out of the chamber, Mr. Trump paused to chat with the justice.

“Say hello to your boy,” Mr. Trump said. “Special guy.”

Mr. Trump was apparently referring to Justice Kennedy’s son, Justin. The younger Mr. Kennedy spent more than a decade at Deutsche Bank, eventually rising to become the bank’s global head of real estate capital markets, and he worked closely with Mr. Trump when he was a real estate developer, according to two people with knowledge of his role.

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KGxvi  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:55:55am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

You know, I know you lean libertarian and I’ve gotten a couple libertarian buds to admit they’re sympathetic to that and they definitely agreed they’d rather the government spend more on social programs than the military. My belief is this. I believe the government since it is we the people should be investing in we the people and that means things like education, infrastructure, health care, and yes making sure people don’t go hungry. Massie is a Paul style wackjob that has his head up Von Mises’ Institute’s ass and doesn’t realize that economics is about living and breathing people.

Milton Friedman actually made an argument for universal basic income years ago. One of the major problems with a lot of philosophical libertarianism isn that it likes to pretend that everyone is starting off, right now, with the same power and opportunities. That’s falls down the moment you out come consider the relative power in negotiations between employers and potential employees, or any time you have to sign an arbitration agreement to get services. I think universal basic income can relieve some of that disparity. Plus, if AI is coming for all of outer jobs, we are going to have to rethink a lot of things

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:58:26am

re: #397 KGxvi

Milton Friedman actually made an argument for universal basic income years ago. One of the major problems with a lot of philosophical libertarianism isn’t that it likes to pretend that everyone is starting off, right now, with the same power and opportunities. That’s falls down the moment you out come consider the relative power in negotiations between employers and potential employees, or any time you have to sign an arbitration agreement to get services. I think universal basic income can relieve some of that disparity. Plus, if AI is coming for all of outer jobs, we are going to have to rethink a lot of things

Right. I can see why it appeals but it also fails to account for a lot of real world things. I’m fond of saying libertarian dogmatics aren’t too different from Marxist dogmatics in that they don’t take the human factors into account.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 9:58:42am

re: #397 KGxvi

Milton Friedman actually made an argument for universal basic income years ago. One of the major problems with a lot of philosophical libertarianism isn’t that it likes to pretend that everyone is starting off, right now, with the same power and opportunities.

Someday we will all be hatched out as fully-formed adults, receive a basic education chip implant and be sent out to fulfill our potential as individuals. At that point, a total Randian libertarian system would be the ideal approach.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:00:27am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Someday we will all be hatched out as fully-formed adults, receive a basic education chip implant and be sent out to fulfill our potential as individuals. At that point, a total Randian libertarian system would be the ideal approach.

How many of us do you think the ‘bots will need?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:01:24am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Someday we will all be hatched out as fully-formed adults, receive a basic education chip implant and be sent out to fulfill our potential as individuals. At that point, a total Randian libertarian system would be the ideal approach.

Even then I think that misses some things. So much of jobs is knowing the right people and the right people knowing the right people. A Randian system assumes we’re all starting from the same place and we’re never going to no matter how far technology advances.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:01:51am

re: #400 Decatur Deb

How many of us do you think the ‘bots will need?

enough to keep their elbow joints lubricated

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:02:00am

re: #369 MsJ

Because food isn’t a scarcity, we don’t need a setup like the health care system. On the other hand, we did have exactly that set up during WW2.

But, we actually do continue to try to set up food for everyone. That’s what SNAP and school summer lunch programs are for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:02:48am

Gonna make a Melanoma fashion prediction for this Argentina jaunt:
At some point she will channel her inner Evita.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:03:42am

re: #403 Belafon

Because food isn’t a scarcity, we don’t need a setup like the health care system. On the other hand, we did have exactly that set up during WW2.

But, we actually do continue to try to set up food for everyone. That’s what SNAP and school summer lunch programs are for.

we have found that a free market approach to distribution leads to an awful lot of waste

and don’t even get me going on the role of government subsidies in agriculture and food transportation…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:04:04am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

enough to keep their elbow joints lubricated

If they only had a heart.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:04:27am

re: #365 MsJ

I agree with your thoughts but trump’s ego will never allow it. He won’t resign (only if he says something like “You don’t deserve me!” but even then I don’t see it.)

its way way too early
resigning now requires someone to think strategically
he will have to be publicly squeezed - and a lot, before he and his gut - whose smarter than anyone else’s brain, figures out what to do

then there’s all the state crimes besides
they wont go away with resigning nor a pence pardon

unless some grand bargain is struck
which requires mueller
- and hopefully for the country as a whole, that comes with total transparent disclosure of the depth and breadth of it all

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:04:49am

re: #394 Jay C

Well, Massie’s a Republican, so he’s obviously floating this idea in the spirit of scornful mockery, but IMO, it’s a great idea. Not sure exactly how the system works, but widely expanding the food subsidy to a broader segment of the economy sounds like a better allocation of government funds than a lot of stuff I can think of.

Massie is a Rand Paul Republican…that is to say, a Libertarian pretending to be a Republican only as much as being a Republican will get him elected in Kentucky.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:05:55am

re: #360 MsJ

John Kerry says he is considering running for President in 2020.

right now the list of who isnt considering running is a lot shorter

lizards
and my mom

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jimmyvluv4u  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:07:10am

He’s melting down and isn’t going to meet with anybody. Why even bother going?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:07:50am

re: #410 jimmyvluv4u

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He’s melting down and isn’t going to meet with anybody. Why even bother going?

so he does not have to come back…

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:07:58am

re: #410 jimmyvluv4u

He’s melting down and isn’t going to meet with anybody. Why even bother going?

To get out of the US.

Also, this further erodes our standing.

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:08:08am

re: #410 jimmyvluv4u

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He’s melting down and isn’t going to meet with anybody. Why even bother going?

Asking for asylum?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:08:35am
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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:08:41am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

Deserves discussion.

you may or may not be ‘entitled’ to food
you are entitled to not have it withheld from you

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:09:21am

re: #372 makeitstop

Trump’s BFFs in Congress have been quiet as church mice this morning, save for Ryan remarking that Says Who should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Cowards.

If their strategy is to hang on until Pence is in a more advantageous position, they better damn well hope that things don’t completely implode before that.

After the deluge of news this morning, their Fatted Calf might do something really stupid and desperate.

EDITED TO ADD: Even if he does resign and Pence pardons the federal charges, Trump’s in the same box as Manafort - still has to deal with the state charges. I’m hoping for total seizure of assets, myself.

Line of succession…

Trump

Pence

Pelosi

Are you gooey at the thought yet?

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:09:40am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gonna make a Melanoma fashion prediction for this Argentina jaunt:
At some point she will channel her inner Evita.

How much of this thing is Trump going to blow off?

I figure conditions are ripe for a lot of hotel room sulking and rage tweeting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:10:02am

re: #415 dangerman

you may or may not be ‘entitled’ to food
you are entitled to not have it withheld from you

I see it as part of securing the common good to provide for a basic level of nutrition for all citizens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:10:16am

re: #413 Jay C

Asking for asylum?

He should go to Ecuador for that

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Teukka  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:10:31am

re: #413 Jay C

Asking for asylum?

Or going to the asylum…

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:10:48am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I like Kerry, campaigned my ass for him fourteen years ago but his time has passed.

I might agree with you - maybe - except right now, after this fucking admin, we need someone with COMPLETE COMPETENCY. We do not need a personality to fix everything. We need competency to fix everything.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:11:41am
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steve_davis  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:11:50am

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

If Trump’s having “difficulty navigating the stairs” (and he does seem to have a fear of stairs as I recall) it’s most likely because he’s having issues with depth perception and needs to be wearing glasses……which of course, he won’t do because he’s so goddamn vain.

navigating stairs blind isn’t a problem. navigating them with bifocals is what kills thousands of people every year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:11:56am

re: #421 MsJ

I might agree with you - maybe - except right now, after this fucking admin, we need someone with COMPLETE COMPETENCY. We do not need a personality to fix everything. We need competency to fix everything.

they won’t let us have Obama again

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:12:14am

re: #410 jimmyvluv4u

Trump’s formal G-20 meetings with Turkey, South Korea canceled

Damn, I didn’t even read this when I mentioned hotel room sulking!

He’s gonna blow the whole thing off and send out the Secret Service to find a McDonald’s.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:12:14am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

Deserves discussion.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:14:32am

re: #421 MsJ

I might agree with you - maybe - except right now, after this fucking admin, we need someone with COMPLETE COMPETENCY. We do not need a personality to fix everything. We need competency to fix everything.

I would argue Hillary is more qualified than him. :)

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:14:40am

re: #409 dangerman

right now the list of who isnt considering running is a lot shorter

lizards
and my mom

LOL!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:14:50am

re: #410 jimmyvluv4u

He might as well stay home, quite frankly. The entire point of something like the G20 meeting is to discuss matters with other leaders.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:16:14am

re: #412 Belafon

To get out of the US.

Also, this further erodes our standing.

We still have standing?

Half /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:16:15am
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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:16:59am

re: #422 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That white one is my puppy, Joy. She only exists to be on top of another dog. Or us. She chews her bones with her butt firmly planted on us. She sleeps on top of the other dogs. She must be connected physically to another living thing. It’s like she cannot exist otherwise.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:17:23am

re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Geez, Tummy is just one foul-assed human, isn’t she?

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:17:27am

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

they won’t let us have Obama again

As the tears slowly stream down my face.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:17:33am

Spoken like a true white person who has never experienced racial discrimination.

Shut the fuck up Tomi.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:18:24am

re: #427 Belafon

I would argue Hillary is more qualified than him. :)

I didn’t pose the question, someone else did. I just reposted it.

And I would vote for Hillary - again - in a fucking second.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:18:28am
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bd(Redacted)  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:18:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:18:51am

re: #423 steve_davis

navigating stairs blind isn’t a problem. navigating them with bifocals is what kills thousands of people every year.

Many years ago - when I was a teenager - I switched from glasses to contact lenses and I admit that for the first few hours in contacts, I wasn’t too good on stairs, owing to the prismatic distortion that occurs when you’re used to wearing eyeglasses. I have a strong prescription (-9.75 L eye, -8.15 R eye, and with astigmatism).

Even now, though I mostly wear glasses, when I pop in contacts, it slightly changes my depth perception.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:20:18am
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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:20:36am

re: #437 makeitstop

Tell me he shot off his dick. Please, oh please, let that article say he shot off his dick.

Yes, I am in a vile mood.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:21:51am

re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Says someone who works for the network that coined War on Christmas and routinely insists Christians are the most discriminated group in the country. Leave your parents basement and FNC, Tomi.

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Interesting Times  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:21:54am

re: #441 MsJ

Tell me he shot off his dick. Please, oh please, let that article say he shot off his dick.

Would that make him eligible for a Darwin award?

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:22:56am

re: #443 Interesting Times

Would that make him eligible for a Darwin award?

Nope, he lived. Only honorable mention.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:23:30am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:23:56am

re: #421 MsJ

I might agree with you - maybe - except right now, after this fucking admin, we need someone with COMPLETE COMPETENCY. We do not need a personality to fix everything. We need competency to fix everything.

I get that. I just don’t know if voters will want someone they rejected 14 years ago.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:24:40am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

I get that. I just don’t know if voters will want someone they rejected 14 years ago.

While people want Beto (whom I really like) to run…and he was rejected 14 days ago.

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Interesting Times  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:26:29am

re: #444 MsJ

Nope, he lived. Only honorable mention.

I thought one was eligible on the condition they took themselves out of the gene/reproduction pool (and given where he shot himself, well…)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:27:42am

re: #447 MsJ

While people want Beto (whom I really like) to run…and he was rejected 14 days ago.

I get that too. Don’t get me wrong, we could do worse than Kerry but I just don’t know tbh. Sorry but voters are weird.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:27:58am

This morning’s “Fox Insider” email, broadcasting the latest denial talking points to the faithful:

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:29:07am

“Look at all these crimes, all these indictments.”
“Mueller just created them! Dershowitz says so!”

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:29:13am

re: #450 jaunte

This morning’s “Fox Insider” email, broadcasting the latest denial talking points to the faithful:

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Napolitano seems to be the only one looking at the plea deal with his eyes open.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:29:59am

re: #449 HappyWarrior

I get that too. Don’t get me wrong, we could do worse than Kerry but I just don’t know tbh. Sorry but voters are weird.

I honestly dont care who runs, as long as they are competent. And at this point, daffy duck could run as a dem and I’d vote for him…it? whatever. If fucking Oprah wins the Dem primary, I am voting for her.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:30:17am

re: #450 jaunte

This morning’s “Fox Insider” email, broadcasting the latest denial talking points to the faithful:

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He pled guilty you idiots but I get you need Ole Dershowitz to lie to your legally moronic viewers who insist HRC should be locked up but people who actually have pled guilty are victims. Stop lying and complaining when people confront you in public for being America’s RT.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:30:58am

re: #453 MsJ

I honestly dont care who runs, as long as they are competent. And at this point, daffy duck could run as a dem and I’d vote for him…it? whatever. If fucking Oprah wins the Dem primary, I am voting for her.

I feel the same way but I want us to beat Trump too. I don’t know if Kerry can.

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:31:18am

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really hope one additional fortunate side-effect of the Mueller probe (hopefully) getting rid of Trump and his vile corrupt Administration is that we will never have to hear any more bullshit from Rudy Giuliani or see his ugly mug onscreen ever again.

ADD: and Alan Dershowitz as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:31:54am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

He pled guilty you idiots but I get you need Ole Dershowitz to lie to your legally moronic viewers who insist HRC should be locked up but people who actually have pled guilty are victims.

They coerced him to confess.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:31:58am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:32:25am

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

They’ve definitely mentioned it.

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Pretty sure we now know why he abandoned the press pool last night and stormed away from the tree ceremony. Whitaker told him that Cohen had plead to things contradicting what Trump has put in his sworn answers….

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:32:51am

re: #457 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They coerced him to confess.

Yeah! What’s with all those facts and shit?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:33:10am

re: #452 makeitstop

Napolitano seems to be the only one looking at the plea deal with his eyes open.

Because he’s actually smart enough to know that a Dem insider could be caught doing the same shit Cohen did and FNC would look bad demanding that person go to the gallows while defending this. Kinda like how Princess Ivanka insists she’s innocent of the same thing her dad wants to lock hrc up for.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:33:23am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:33:31am

re: #452 makeitstop

Napolitano seems to be the only one looking at the plea deal with his eyes open.

Napolitano isn’t a complete idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:33:36am

re: #457 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They coerced him to confess.

Except Derpowitz isn’t saying that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:34:01am

re: #462 Charles Johnson

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Lionel Hutz would be better.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:34:24am

re: #459 Scottish Dragon

Pretty sure we now know why he abandoned the press pool last night and stormed away from the tree ceremony. Whitaker told him that Cohen had plead to things contradicting what Trump has put in his sworn answers….

That could well be, actually; I saw some video of that and Trump seemed (at least to me) agitated as he left the tree lighting ceremony.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:34:36am
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Jay C  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:34:41am

re: #463 Scottish Dragon

Napolitano isn’t a complete idiot.

So I’m guessing his contract with FOX won’t be renewed?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:34:50am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Except Derpowitz isn’t saying that.

It is implied…this is not just McCarthyism, it is full-on Stalinism!!!

/

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:35:02am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:35:18am
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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:35:40am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

Lionel Hutz would be better.

Dewey, Cheetum and Howe.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:35:58am

re: #469 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is implied…this is not just McCarthyism, it is full-on Stalinism!!!

/

No he said made up crimes. There’s a difference between that and made up coerced confessions. He’s a full of shit conman only going to bat for Trump because of shared FP goals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:36:04am

re: #470 MsJ

Cuckoo birds of a feather. Every last one of them.

“De-platforming” is a big buzzword these days, from the people who brought you “Twitter Gulag”.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:36:56am

re: #471 Charles Johnson

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Because no self respecting attorney would take their case that they’d certainly lose.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:39:03am

re: #468 Jay C

So I’m guessing his contract with FOX won’t be renewed?

Nah, he’s like Shep Smith and Geraldo - he stays on the right side of the propaganda line most of the time.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:39:42am

WTH does this even mean? Anyone?

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:39:53am

re: #360 MsJ

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The responses are depressing. Great Guy! No Charisma! Knows his shit!

These are supporters. I guess we are permanently in the Cult of Personality as President forever.

FUCK.

The GOP already has a huge hit file on him just like they did with Hillary. Can’t we try somebody new for a fucking change?

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:40:59am

re: #478 Skip Intro

The GOP already has a huge hit file on him just like they did with Hillary. Can’t we try somebody new for a fucking change?

Do you think they don’t have a file on any and every single dem who MIGHT run at any point?

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:41:07am

Breaking: Feds Raid Trump Real Estate Attorney’s Offices (Chicago Alderman Ed Burke).

Sources: Federal agents raid powerful Chicago Ald. Ed Burke’s City Hall office

“…Burke’s law firm is among the most prominent property tax appeals firms in the city. Burke’s work has included conducted [sic] property tax appeals for President Donald Trump’s Chicago tower.”

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:41:29am

re: #441 MsJ

Tell me he shot off his dick. Please, oh please, let that article say he shot off his dick.

Yes, I am in a vile mood.

control your weapon at all times. how hard is that?
if you prove it’s very hard for you, then you cannot own, handle, possess any gun

take his goddammed guns

jail, fines, no more 2a rights for him

let everyone else be a little more careful

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:42:07am
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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:43:22am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

He pled guilty you idiots but I get you need Ole Dershowitz to lie to your legally moronic viewers who insist HRC should be locked up but people who actually have pled guilty are victims. Stop lying and complaining when people confront you in public for being America’s RT.

mueller cooked up the crimes
then forced him to plead

you know, like that police captain in biscayne park

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:43:45am

re: #479 MsJ

Do you think they don’t have a file on any and every single dem who MIGHT run at any point?

I think what he’s arguing is they already know what’s worked with defeating Kerry. They of course have opps files on every potential candidate. But they have a big advantage in knowing how to beat him already.

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MsJ  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:44:18am

LOL!!

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CongoJack  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:45:28am

re: #484 HappyWarrior

I think what he’s arguing is they already know what’s worked with defeating Kerry. They of course have opps files on every potential candidate. But they have a big advantage in knowing how to beat him already.

Or Kerry is inoculated from the bullsh*t as we’ve already seen it before about him (and people like me who were swiftboated - yes - I was that person - vowed never to let those lies work on me again and I went and got myself educated).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:45:40am

FWIW I’m like the rest of you I imagine voting for anyone who gets nominated with a D next to his or her name to defeat Trump. The problem to me is finding the right person to defeat Trump and as much as I like old timers like Kerry and Biden, I don’t think they’re the answer.

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sagehen  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:45:41am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

You know, I know you lean libertarian and I’ve gotten a couple libertarian buds to admit they’re sympathetic to that and they definitely agreed they’d rather the government spend more on social programs than the military. My belief is this. I believe the government since it is we the people should be investing in we the people and that means things like education, infrastructure, health care, and yes making sure people don’t go hungry. Massie is a Paul style wackjob that has his head up Von Mises’ Institute’s ass and doesn’t realize that economics is about living and breathing people.

“things like education, infrastructure, health care, and yes making sure people don’t go hungry” may seem expensive considered in isolation, but they’re a whole lot cheaper than the amount of police and prisons that’s needed in countries that don’t do that.

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:46:23am

re: #479 MsJ

Do you think they don’t have a file on any and every single dem who MIGHT run at any point?

I knew before I hit post that would be the first response. No, I don’t think they have a huge file on people who haven’t run for president before and failed.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:46:24am
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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:46:24am

re: #477 MsJ

They want to amend their complaint, and they have the legal justification to do so (they do). It’s a basic motion.

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CongoJack  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:46:28am

re: #488 sagehen

“things like education, infrastructure, health care, and yes making sure people don’t go hungry” may seem expensive considered in isolation, but they’re a whole lot cheaper than the amount of police and prisons that’s needed in countries that don’t do that.

True.

Try telling that to your rightwing relatives though - they will lose their shit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:46:33am

re: #486 CongoJack

Or Kerry is inoculated from the bullsh*t as we’ve already seen it before about him (and people like me who were swiftboated - yes - I was that person - vowed never to let those lies work on me again and I went and got myself educated).

That is one way of looking at it. But unfortunately I think more voters aren’t like you than are. ANd props to you educating yourself on that. I was a Kerry campaign volunteer. That stuff disgusted me.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:46:57am

in case you havent….

YouTube

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:47:07am

re: #450 jaunte

This morning’s “Fox Insider” email, broadcasting the latest denial talking points to the faithful:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:47:29am

re: #488 sagehen

“things like education, infrastructure, health care, and yes making sure people don’t go hungry” may seem expensive considered in isolation, but they’re a whole lot cheaper than the amount of police and prisons that’s needed in countries that don’t do that.

Exactly. AOC was on I think Cuomo and he asked her the usual “Well you know, I don’t think we can afford this.” Which I think is a reasonable question but no one ever asks that same question police, prisons, and the military budget.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:48:29am

re: #458 MsJ

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what a great picture
franklin just chillin’ it

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Sir John Barron  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:49:53am

re: #450 jaunte

This morning’s “Fox Insider” email, broadcasting the latest denial talking points to the faithful:

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So fair, so balanced…..

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:51:33am

re: #495 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Chuck Schumer: “Just this morning, Michael Cohen has pled guilty to lying to Congress about projects in Russia. It’s a reminder that there’s been a remarkable volume of criminal activity uncovered by the Special Counsel’s investigation

It’s ALSO a reminder that there’s been a remarkable volume of criminal activity NOT uncovered by the republican led house and senate

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Sir John Barron  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:52:14am

re: #477 MsJ

WTH does this even mean? Anyone?

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I don’t know, but as soon as the name Laura Loomer comes up, you can be guaranteed it’s gonna be derpy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:52:38am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:54:08am

The problem is that social program spending has become about “spending money on those other people who can’t possibly be me or my family.” I’ve benefited from social programs as have most voters but I know I have and I suppose most of you have too. But we don’t think about that because we’ve had dipshits like Reagan poison our minds against the “welfare queen” rather than us thinking about there are poor mothers out there who yes we want to be working who might need an extra hand so their kid doesn’t go hungry or we don’t consider that those student loans that helped us get our degree were a government program too. We need to win that conversation with the next generations of voters if we want to have more spending on social programs.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:54:57am

re: #501 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Quoth Deepthroat, these guys aren’t very smart.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:55:14am

re: #467 jaunte

Wow, who ever could have imagined that maybe Devin Nunes didn’t get the full truth. I’m for one stunned.
— Garrett M. Graff

My surprised face….who can you trust these days?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:55:17am

re: #439 Dr Lizardo

Many years ago - when I was a teenager - I switched from glasses to contact lenses and I admit that for the first few hours in contacts, I wasn’t too good on stairs, owing to the prismatic distortion that occurs when you’re used to wearing eyeglasses. I have a strong prescription (-9.75 L eye, -8.15 R eye, and with astigmatism).

Even now, though I mostly wear glasses, when I pop in contacts, it slightly changes my depth perception.

I don’t think tRump’s stair problem is due to vision. My sense of balance is nonexistent, really—my vestibular apparatus has never worked worth shit. Like a lot of people, I depend on visual cues and feedback from my ankle muscles. As I’ve gotten older and fatter (like tRump), the latter has become unreliable. I have a hell of a time going down stairs. Up is much easier.

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sagehen  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:55:22am

re: #458 MsJ

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This is why we don’t cuddle St Bernard puppies in our laps.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:56:33am

re: #501 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I think there’s a lot of confirmation bias tucked into that tweet.

For one thing, I don’t consider Dworkin to be all that reliable.

And I don’t believe that everyone in Trumpworld is that so completely immune to reality as to think that Trump didn’t have Russia contacts as Trump’s own story has changed from no contacts to admitting that he had them but it’s no big deal, etc.

And I also don’t think this will get anyone to turn on Trump now, not when Cohen previously cut a plea deal on the same basic facts. This is just a more explicit admission of the Russia-Trump contacts. The Trumpworld/GOPers who backed Trump to now have overlooked everything else he’s done. They’re not going to have a crisis of confidence in Trump over this.

Everyone associated with Trumpworld and the GOP leadership are complicit. Everyone.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:56:59am
509
makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:57:24am

re: #501 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

they weren’t aware Mueller or the FBI could indict witnesses who lied to Congress

Everybody thought they were going to get away with this shit.

Sleep well, White House staffers. You fucking morons.

510
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:58:16am
511
blueraven  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:58:54am

re: #447 MsJ

While people want Beto (whom I really like) to run…and he was rejected 14 days ago.

In TEXAS. He came within 3 points, in TX. No Democrat running for President will win Texas. While he didn’t win the senate seat, it was hardly a “rejection”.

512
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:59:18am

re: #509 makeitstop

Everybody thought they were going to get away with this shit.

Sleep well, White House staffers. You fucking morons.

Going to look great on their resumes.

513
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 10:59:57am
514
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:00:24am

re: #511 blueraven

In TEXAS. He came within 3 points, in TX. No Democrat running for President will win Texas. While he didn’t win the senate seat, it was hardly a “rejection”.

That’s a key distinction too. I get the hesitancy to nominate someone who just lost an election but there’s a difference between losing that and already having lost running for President.

515
Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:00:31am

All the innocent White House staffers will walk out en masse. Don’t want to be standing near the exits when they do.

516
freetoken  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:00:39am

re: #501 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The current White House “staff” are tools.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:00:43am

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whittaker’s in the Deep State too, Donnie, better make Ivanka AG!

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:00:58am

re: #515 Decatur Deb

All the innocent White House staffers will walk out en masse. Don’t want to be standing near the exits when they do.

There are no innocent staffers.

519
makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:00:59am

re: #512 HappyWarrior

Going to look great on their resumes.

Inorite?

But again - they all thought Trump was gonna be their golden ticket. Idiots.

520
dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:01:30am

re: #509 makeitstop

Everybody thought they were going to get away with this shit.

Sleep well, White House staffers. You fucking morons.

521
jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:01:37am
522
gocart mozart  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:01:39am
523
ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:01:54am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

He pled guilty you idiots but I get you need Ole Dershowitz to lie to your legally moronic viewers who insist HRC should be locked up but people who actually have pled guilty are victims. Stop lying and complaining when people confront you in public for being America’s RT.

I think wingnuts should be reminded that Dershowitz helped get OJ off a double murder charge.

Reminded a lot! Like every time his name comes up.

524
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:01:58am

re: #519 makeitstop

Inorite?

But again - they all thought Trump was gonna be their golden ticket. Idiots.

YEah not very smart.

525
Scottish Dragon  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:02:08am

re: #515 Decatur Deb

All the innocent White House staffers will walk out en masse. Don’t want to be standing near the exits when they do.

They should.

526
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:02:38am

re: #521 jaunte

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Stupid libtard, he meant Moscow, Idaho! RealDonaldTrump only builds in America! because MAGA! //

527
Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:03:43am

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

That implies that it’s ok with Trump, doesn’t it?

528
dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:04:04am

re: #518 lawhawk

There are no innocent staffers.

you support a pig you’re a pig
you support a racist, you’re a racist
you support a harasser, you’re a harasser

you voluntarily choose to work for one, you’re one

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:04:18am

re: #523 ObserverArt

I think wingnuts should be reminded that Dershowitz helped get OJ off a double murder charge.

Reminded a lot! Like every time his name comes up.

I don’t think they actually take him himself at his word but that their precious FNC is having this lawyer guy say it but that is something interesting to consider. I don’t think Dershowitz having defended an accused murderer and getting him off is a negative indictment of Alan’s character though. Being a smug dick who continues to lie about legal facts to gullible morons though certainly is.

530
Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:04:21am

re: #525 Scottish Dragon

They should.

They won’t.

531
lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:05:22am
532
makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:05:47am

You wanna know why Trump was dancing like a chicken on a hot plate this morning? Here’s why.

Soooooooooooooooo fucked, he is.

533
lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:08:16am

re: #532 makeitstop

And anyone who wasn’t in the Fox kool-aid echo chamber knew that this was where Trump was headed, because Trump’s a lunatic who can’t help but lie about everything.

534
Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:08:55am

So, a change of pace: found this on the Intertubes. An old radio drama of H.P. Lovecraft’s The Dunwich Horror, apparently first broadcast in 1945. Stars Ronald Colman as Dr. Henry Armitage.

RADIO DRAMA: DUNWICH HORROR by H.P. Lovecraft

It’s highly abridged, being less than a half hour long, but well done.

535
jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:09:30am
536
jaunte  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:10:00am
537
Sir John Barron  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:10:08am

re: #532 makeitstop

You wanna know why Trump was dancing like a chicken on a hot plate this morning? Here’s why.

Soooooooooooooooo fucked, he is.

“Total witchhunt. Yuuuuuge witchunt. Totally made up crimes, what about The Server and Crooked Hillary and Angry Dems?”

538
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:10:10am
539
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:10:54am

re: #535 jaunte

[Embedded content]

WHile this hopefully plays.

The Godfather (1972) “This Loneliness” HD

540
lawhawk  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:11:27am

re: #535 jaunte

Also allowable video imagery: Untouchables as they take down Capone’s criminal enterprise.
FBI uncovering all the dead bodies the GoodFellas left in their wake. (GoodFellas)

541
makeitstop  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:12:53am

re: #540 lawhawk

Also allowable video imagery: Untouchables as they take down Capone’s criminal enterprise.
FBI uncovering all the dead bodies the GoodFellas left in their wake. (GoodFellas)

Or this.

Trump Arrest Montage

542
dangerman  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:14:42am

re: #538 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

here’s a hint mr ryan

the dems won 7 ‘competitive’ races because the voters out there dont like the republicans

543
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:14:55am

re: #540 lawhawk

Also allowable video imagery: Untouchables as they take down Capone’s criminal enterprise.
FBI uncovering all the dead bodies the GoodFellas left in their wake. (GoodFellas)

Oh so you want the Layla piano exit. I like this too from the underrated but heavy use of dramatic license Mississippi Burning:

Mississippi burning arrest scene

544
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:16:13am
545
ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:17:00am

re: #529 HappyWarrior

I don’t think they actually take him himself at his word but that their precious FNC is having this lawyer guy say it but that is something interesting to consider. I don’t think Dershowitz having defended an accused murderer and getting him off is a negative indictment of Alan’s character though. Being a smug dick who continues to lie about legal facts to gullible morons though certainly is.

I don’t think Dershowitz defending an accused murderer and getting him off is a bad thing either. It was his job.

But wingnuts just might not like the idea and the man for doing it, if’n you know what I mean.

546
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:17:42am

re: #541 makeitstop

Or this.

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Video

Never gets old though I wish the Trump boys and Hannity could make appearances too.

547
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:18:01am

re: #545 ObserverArt

I don’t think Dershowitz defending an accused murderer and getting him off is a bad thing either. It was his job.

But wingnuts just might not like the idea and the man for doing it, if’n you know what I mean.

Yeah I got what you were going for.

548
HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:18:44am

re: #538 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The death of a policy wanker.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:23:50am

re: #530 Skip Intro

They won’t.

All the innocent ones will.

550
gocart mozart  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:45:42am
551
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2018 • 11:55:23am

re: #463 Scottish Dragon

Napolitano isn’t a complete idiot.

And he sometimes refuses to play one on TV.

552
Eventual Carrion  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:17:10pm

re: #413 Jay C

Asking for asylum?

Hope they teargas him.

553
Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:17:29pm

re: #22 jaunte

That’s how much Republicans love veterans.

554
Single-handed sailor  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:23:00pm

re: #507 lawhawk

I think there’s a lot of confirmation bias tucked into that tweet.

For one thing, I don’t consider Dworkin to be all that reliable.

And I don’t believe that everyone in Trumpworld is that so completely immune to reality as to think that Trump didn’t have Russia contacts as Trump’s own story has changed from no contacts to admitting that he had them but it’s no big deal, etc.

And I also don’t think this will get anyone to turn on Trump now, not when Cohen previously cut a plea deal on the same basic facts. This is just a more explicit admission of the Russia-Trump contacts. The Trumpworld/GOPers who backed Trump to now have overlooked everything else he’s done. They’re not going to have a crisis of confidence in Trump over this.

Everyone associated with Trumpworld and the GOP leadership are complicit. Everyone.

Leon the Professional - EVERYONE

555
jeffreyw  Nov 29, 2018 • 12:38:36pm

re: #394 Jay C

Well, Massie’s a Republican, so he’s obviously floating this idea in the spirit of scornful mockery, but IMO, it’s a great idea. Not sure exactly how the system works, but widely expanding the food subsidy to a broader segment of the economy sounds like a better allocation of government funds than a lot of stuff I can think of.

Farmers lost a big market in China. Maybe develop a new one in the USA?
Tariffs China is filling the treasury with would easily pay for it, right?

556
Eventual Carrion  Nov 29, 2018 • 3:16:34pm

re: #532 makeitstop

You wanna know why Trump was dancing like a chicken on a hot plate this morning? Here’s why.

[Embedded content]

Soooooooooooooooo fucked, he is.

I did not have financial relations with that Moscow.


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