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Single-handed sailor  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:16:40pm

Wisconsinites are revolting; they’re rising up, too. //

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:36:39pm

Tonight, a secret Santa has purchased one-year ad-free LGF subscriptions for :

wlewisiii and plansbandc

Enjoy, and Merry Christmas!

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:37:15pm
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plansbandc  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:38:03pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Oh wow!!! Thank you so much. <3

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:40:37pm

Again? I am profoundly gladdened by this. Thank you, again, my anonymous friend.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:48:08pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:48:11pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Tonight, a secret Santa has purchased one-year ad-free LGF subscriptions for :

wlewisiii and plansbandc

Enjoy, and Merry Christmas!

It truly gladdens the heart to see how our community here finds a way to do the good thing so often. On the hard day, a difference was made. My respects to Santa

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:50:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2018 • 7:51:22pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:01:05pm

So. The “A Block” of Maddow is all about how it looks like Mueller has closed off the Obstruction Of Justice investigation to all possible new evidence.

And if this is the case … well, the indictments should start rolling out pretty damn soon.

It’s instructive also that the NY State criminal cases are kicking into a higher gear right now.

Cases that cannot be disposed of by a Presidential Pardon.

msnbc.com

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:01:50pm

Hard to get my head around this band. Which usually means they’re really good and it takes me head a bit to git round it.

Deep Sea Diver - Full Performance (Live on KEXP)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:04:13pm

Everyone knows that if Trump is convicted of anything, he’s just going to ignore it. Right?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:04:21pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:04:38pm

If these two assumptions are correct: 1) that Mueller has Don, Don Jr., Ivanka and Jared nailed to the fricking wall and

2) that they’ve planned ahead by sharing the evidence with NY State prosecutors, so they can build cases that DO NOT fall under Trump’s pardon power …

Then yeah, it makes sense for the Orange Fuckface Von Clownstick to be spinning and freaking like goddam Tasmanian Devil

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:05:12pm

re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus

Yeah, well… QUIT YELLING AT ME.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:05:34pm

re: #14 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

If these two assumptions are correct: 1) that Mueller has Don, Don Jr., Ivanka and Jared nailed to the fricking wall and

2) that they’ve planned ahead by sharing the evidence with NY State prosecutors, so they can build cases that DO NOT fall under Trump’s pardon power …

Then yeah, it makes sense for the Orange Fuckface Von Clownstick to be spinning and freaking like goddam Tasmanian Devil

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It’ll be hilarious if the kids flipped on him.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:08:13pm

re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus

Everyone knows that if Trump is convicted of anything, he’s just going to ignore it. Right?

It’s not him we are going to talk to. It’s Congress. And, if they do impeach him, he’s no longer president, but a squatter to be removed.

But it’s also up to us in 2020.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:08:56pm

re: #14 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

If these two assumptions are correct: 1) that Mueller has Don, Don Jr., Ivanka and Jared nailed to the fricking wall and

2) that they’ve planned ahead by sharing the evidence with NY State prosecutors, so they can build cases that DO NOT fall under Trump’s pardon power …

Then yeah, it makes sense for the Orange Fuckface Von Clownstick to be spinning and freaking like goddam Tasmanian Devil

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And Mueller hasn’t tried any of them, so it doesn’t fall under any definition of double jeopardy if the state does.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:09:47pm

If Chrissie Hynde and Geddy Lee had a daughter who started a band it would be Deep Sea Diver

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:10:00pm

It’s late. I’ve spent most of the afternoon and evening sad but I wanted to thank everyone for the kind words. Marley was a terrific dog. When you decide to buy a dog, you know that this will eventually come but it’s always worth it to make that decision because the journey you spend with your dog is the best. And maybe that’s the silver lining in dogs not living as long as we do that we get to know more dogs that way. That said I would have loved for Brady, my childhood dog and Marley to have met. And honestly I hate to turn a doggie story political but I think about Trump who has used dog as an insult for people and who is the only President in ages not to have one and I just think that there’s just something wrong with a man who doesn’t enjoy the company of animals especially a dog. They truly do become members of the family and we mourn them all the same.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:17:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:18:18pm

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

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These assholes are unbelievable.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:18:46pm

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

Grassley knew he was lying, and therefore there’s nothing inconsistent with what he knew.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:19:50pm

re: #19 BigPapa

If Chrissie Hynde and Geddy Lee had a daughter who started a band it would be Deep Sea Diver

who liked PJ Harvey a lot in her formative years

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jaunte  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:20:34pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

I’m looking forward to a lot of ruined reputations, but I don’t want to get my hopes up too high.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:21:27pm

re: #25 jaunte

I’m looking forward to a lot of ruined reputations, but I don’t want to get my hopes up too high.

Yeah I’m not either. So frustrating how they’re blatantly covering it up though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:22:33pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m not either. So frustrating how they’re blatantly covering it up though.

It doesn’t appear they are covering it up. At this point all they are trying to do is maintain their grip on power.

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jaunte  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:23:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:23:49pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹

It doesn’t appear they are covering it up. At this point all they are trying to do is maintain their grip on power.

Covering it up, obstructing the investigation. Same difference.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:24:47pm

re: #28 jaunte

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I knew a guy whose brother cheated on his wife with one of his father’s biggest buttkissers. I think his name was Derek Prump and his brother’s name was Dan.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:25:54pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:28:31pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:29:02pm

re: #28 jaunte

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jaunte  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:30:44pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s hard to see how those two could stay married when they don’t even share the same reality.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:31:00pm

Some karmic justice

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:35:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:35:45pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Some karmic justice

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You know that’s another thing that gets on me when people try to act like we shouldn’t focus on “identity politics.” Rep-elect Buffalo comes from a group so historically marginalized in our political system. And that is some nice karma. Happy to see what she, Sharice Davids, Deb Haaland, and other Native Americans can do in our legislatures because they really are a group whose voice has been neglected.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:38:21pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:38:23pm

TFW pettiness and schadenfreude do the nasty and have a baby

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KGxvi  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:39:26pm

re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus

Everyone knows that if Trump is convicted of anything, he’s just going to ignore it. Right?

That’s why the Framers envisioned a criminally minded president being impeached before being tried.

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KGxvi  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:40:53pm

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹

He should own the county and most all of the federal land in Florida when that case is done

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:47:29pm

Yeesh, if I hear one more cable news pundit talk about how honorable and decent George W. Bush was I’m going to sell a shitload of TOW and Hawk missiles to Iran.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:48:34pm

“Rampage” is a really stupid movie, but kind of fun in a really stupid “giant monsters laying waste to Chicago” way. Just turn it off before the last 10 minutes because that’s when it gets REALLY stupid.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:51:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:51:26pm

re: #41 KGxvi

He should own the county and most all of the federal land in Florida when that case is done

Someone suggested to the ACLU that he should sue for the entirety of the ICE budget.

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jaunte  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:51:53pm

re: #42 De Kolta Chair

Overcompensation by Team Balance as a direct result of Trump being so horrible an example of what right wing politics leads to.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:53:20pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

Someone suggested to the ACLU that he should sue for the entirety of the ICE budget.

He can sue for that — but unfortunately, it’s highly unlikely he will get a sufficiently large sum to deter the next police department that tries this nonsense.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 8:58:19pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

He can sue for that — but unfortunately, it’s highly unlikely he will get a sufficiently large sum to deter the next police department that tries this nonsense.

That goes back to the argument that when police or federal agents wilfully violate a person’s rights, the first payments should come out of those police or federal agents’ own funds. When they are bankrupt, go after the agency next.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:00:18pm

Bush’s service dog Sully is one beautiful beast.

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KGxvi  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:01:48pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

“Rampage” is a really stupid movie, but kind of fun in a really stupid “giant monsters laying waste to Chicago” way. Just turn it off before the last 10 minutes because that’s when it gets REALLY stupid.

Movies based on video games are rarely good. But that was a great arcade game back in the day

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Charles Johnson  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:03:24pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:03:32pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

“Rampage” is a really stupid movie, but kind of fun in a really stupid “giant monsters laying waste to Chicago” way. Just turn it off before the last 10 minutes because that’s when it gets REALLY stupid.

Well, it’s based on a video game so I never had high hopes for it.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:06:44pm

re: #44 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:06:52pm

Dude, they’re called Reason. There must be some, right?

Right?

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:08:06pm

re: #54 BigPapa

No.

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KGxvi  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:10:25pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

As a libertarian sort, allow me to answer:

No. No, it has not. Thank you for attending my TED Talk

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:11:03pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

For some silly bored reason I watched it last night and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it, for exactly the schlocky guilty pleasure purposes I was hoping for.

Sure, Jean Renoir would’ve brought out the humanity of the premise, but his lack of giant apes in La Bête Humaine showed that he was not up to the task.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:17:06pm

Oh snap!

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:17:33pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

Shit. It’s not real.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:18:31pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:19:37pm
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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:20:37pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:24:36pm

My deepest condolences to ibob. The day my mother leaves this earthly coil will be the worst day of my life.

And to HappyWarrior as well. Sometimes I think we as a species don’t deserve dogs, they’re too good to us.

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freetoken  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:25:20pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

Beto is listed second here:

opensecrets.org

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:28:30pm

‘Nighty night, lizards

Jack Kirby
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freetoken  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:29:53pm

The problem is not that Beto takes campaign donations from industries in his area.

All elected officials do this.

The problem is that as a society we have strong dissonance over what an election should be, in regards to how they are funded.

It’s easy to label the oil&gas industry as evil, but in reality we all participate in that business.

In my mind the real need is to make all campaign donations public over a small amount (say $100), and especially to PACs.

However, I wonder how many voters really care? I bet less than 1% of voters make up their minds based on who are funding this or that candidate.

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:33:00pm

re: #64 freetoken

Reading that twitter thread, he doesn’t take the big bugs from the industry, but from many, many small individual donors who work in that field. Since he is from Texas, and that was the Senatorial campaign. If I am understanding things correctly.

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freetoken  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:33:09pm
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JC1  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:34:59pm

re: #64 freetoken

Beto is listed second here:

opensecrets.org

opensecrets.org

It’s an artifact of him raising so much money. Beto received 6x more money from the ‘Education lobby’, 3x more from health professionals, etc. Oil & Gas is 17th on Beto’s list by contribution, but his fund raising haul was so huge that the absolute numbers look high.
Sirota is being misleading and trying to stir up FUD.

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freetoken  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:36:04pm

re: #67 retired cynic

Yup.

However, to me it does not make a big difference if a candidate gets $50 from an oil field worker, or $5k from the company executive. Both donors are participating willingly in the same endeavor.

The real problem is that Sirota and his ilk are too puritanical, not willing to accept the real world of politics.

Any politician in Texas will need to get voters from those who are connected to the oil and gas industries, because those are large industries in Texas.

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gwangung  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:36:15pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

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They did the exact same thing to Clinton in 2016.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:36:54pm

And I’d almost completely forgotten about David Sirota.

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:36:55pm

re: #70 freetoken

Isn’t the limit $2700 individually?

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freetoken  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:37:24pm

re: #73 retired cynic

Isn’t the limit $2700 individually?

I lose track of these things. Possibly.

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piratedan  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:38:07pm

re: #69 JC1

and I wonder how many dark money PAC’s that have their foundational funding with Russian Oligarchs have contributed to the Sanders Campaign……

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:38:10pm

re: #74 freetoken

I lose track of these things. Possibly.

That’s what it said in the thread, actually. And it sounded right. But I lost track of these things, too!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:38:39pm

re: #66 freetoken

The problem is not that Beto takes campaign donations from industries in his area.

All elected officials do this.

The problem is that as a society we have strong dissonance over what an election should be, in regards to how they are funded.

It’s easy to label the oil&gas industry as evil, but in reality we all participate in that business.

In my mind the real need is to make all campaign donations public over a small amount (say $100), and especially to PACs.

However, I wonder how many voters really care? I bet less than 1% of voters make up their minds based on who are funding this or that candidate.

As noted at the Open Secrets page for Beto O’Rourke, he did not take any PAC money at all for his Senate run. It was all individual donations. He took no money from businesses.

re: #64 freetoken

Beto is listed second here:

opensecrets.org

The link to that page is somewhat misleading, as it just shows the total from each industry and its workers.

opensecrets.org

This link breaks it down by individual donations and PACs. Oil and gas PAC (and every other PAC except the Democratic Party) are all $0.

It is unsurprising that Beto O’Rourke would get a large amount of donations from oil and gas workers, considering that oil and gas is a large employment sector in Texas.

Wait, it is surprising. That’s Texas and he damn near knocked of Ted Cruz in the election, for a seat which should have been a cakewalk for an R.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:59:19pm

Jeez, been a rough day for Lizards. My condolences to Rightwingconspirator.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 3, 2018 • 9:59:29pm

re: #75 piratedan

and I wonder how many dark money PAC’s that have their foundational funding with Russian Oligarchs have contributed to the Sanders Campaign……

I’d be very surprised if the Russians aren’t working both ends against the middle. It would explain a lot. The Mueller results may very well include some lefties as collateral damage.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:01:08pm

And Bulworth, who lost a feline overlord. Y’all have my deepest sympathies.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:02:25pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’d be very surprised if the Russians aren’t working both ends against the middle. It would explain a lot. The Mueller results may very well include some lefties as collateral damage.

Hopefully, Mueller will serve both Tad Devine and Jill Stein with their just comeuppance.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:05:31pm

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:06:32pm

Dude, that dye job on your hair is hideous. Age gracefully, let it get white!

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:07:38pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:11:32pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

As noted at the Open Secrets page for Beto O’Rourke, he did not take any PAC money at all for his Senate run. It was all individual donations. He took no money from businesses.

The link to that page is somewhat misleading, as it just shows the total from each industry and its workers.

opensecrets.org

This link breaks it down by individual donations and PACs. Oil and gas PAC (and every other PAC except the Democratic Party) are all $0.

It is unsurprising that Beto O’Rourke would get a large amount of donations from oil and gas workers, considering that oil and gas is a large employment sector in Texas.

Wait, it is surprising. That’s Texas and he damn near knocked of Ted Cruz in the election, for a seat which should have been a cakewalk for an R.

In any case, in the Senate race, Ted Cruz still received about $75,000 more than Beto from the individual workers working for oil and gas employers. Is it possible to determine the total expended for Ted vs Beto or is there no way to identify the real amount of dark money and PAC money spent on the campaigns?

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:12:18pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:16:31pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Dude, that dye job on your hair is hideous. Age gracefully, let it get white!

Hey, he’s no Steven Seagal, Chuck Norris or Jean-Claude Van Damme (

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:17:59pm

re: #87 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hey, he’s no Steven Seagal, Chuck Norris or Jean-Claude Van Damme (

Heh.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:20:23pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:24:54pm

re: #89 Ace-o-aces

Has the message of anti-matricide become as harmful a force in American life as matricide itself? Tune in tomorrow to hear our exclusive coverage!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:34:21pm

Even New Zealand Children are Laughing at Us (Goes to Juanita Jean’s, the World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon, with video of the commercial, 3:00):

New Zealand Air’s new Christmas commercial is cute and depressing all at the same time. It has the Santa’s naughty list theme, where a kid in New Zealand accidentally receives an email showing him on the naughty list. He decides to convene a worldwide summit of naughty kids to resolve to get on the nice list. Of course, the kid from the US is a narcissistic little shit in a MAGA cap who, using Trump’s own words makes a laughingstock of himself, which fits perfectly into our global image courtesy of His Orangeness. It’s pretty humiliating, so here you go:

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:36:42pm

Frank Zappa died 25 years ago. I paged the 20th anniversary of his death. Where does the time go?

Sexual Harassment In The Workplace

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:50:15pm

Is he completely devoid of any decorum or common sense?

Also, I found it inappropriate for Trump to salute HW as finished “paying his respects” by the casket.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:51:29pm

The first one in this thread to weigh in on the “you’re being disrespectful to your wife” is Cassandra Fairbanks.

George Conway being “disrespectful to his wife” seems like it will be the wingnut talking point du jour tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:55:53pm

re: #93 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Is he completely devoid of any decorum or common sense?

Also, I found it inappropriate for Trump to salute HW as finished “paying his respects” by the casket.

He looks like he’s singing the National Anthem.

And yes, it was inappropriate for him to salute.

Ronald Reagan started the salute thing when the Armed Forces salute the president, and I found it inappropriate then as well. The Commander-in-Chief is being saluted as a mark of respect for the civilian government by the military. The CinC should not be saluting back. If the CinC wishes to acknowledge a salute, he can thank the person, &c.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:56:19pm

Not a chance, LL, but I may watch one ep to see how bad the show is.

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CleverToad  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:56:23pm

Goodnight to all; thinking of the fellow lizards struggling tonight with grief for losses sudden, unexpected, anticipated; recent and past; of family, friends, fur babies. It has an extra edge in this darkest month of the year, when sunlight is in short supply but the parti-colored dazzle and insistent jollity of the holidays are unavoidable. Sympathies to you, with whatever small light a cyber hug can lend.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:58:11pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

He looks like he’s singing the National Anthem.

And yes, it was inappropriate for him to salute.

Ronald Reagan started the salute thing when the Armed Forces salute the president, and I found it inappropriate then as well. The Commander-in-Chief is being saluted as a mark of respect for the civilian government by the military. The CinC should not be saluting back. If the CinC wishes to acknowledge a salute, he can thank the person, &c.

I figured he was singing the Anthem, but he really gets into it, like he’s at the ball park. As for the salute, Trump was never in the military, so he should keep that salutin’ hand down where it belongs.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 3, 2018 • 10:59:05pm

re: #93 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Is he completely devoid of any decorum or common sense?

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Also, I found it inappropriate for Trump to salute HW as finished “paying his respects” by the casket.

Maybe those who diagnose dementia are correct.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 3, 2018 • 11:34:57pm

Take with grain of salt. Dworkin is not always reliable.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2018 • 11:38:24pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 3, 2018 • 11:41:37pm

If you’ve got a spare $500, pick one up to me, OK? Size L. //

starwars.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:08:04am

re: #93 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Is he completely devoid of any decorum or common sense?

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Also, I found it inappropriate for Trump to salute HW as finished “paying his respects” by the casket.

Isn’t that from Memorial Day 2017?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:17:15am

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Isn’t that from Memorial Day 2017?

The singing was, yes.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:38:26am

Trump is the first honey badger president. He doesn’t give a shit.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:41:58am

re: #105 Single-handed sailor

Trump is the first honey badger president. He doesn’t give a shit.

I think you could probably say the same about Andrew Jackson.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:45:22am

Doing the jobs Americans won’t do.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:48:28am

re: #68 freetoken

David Sirota published hit pieces on the Clinton Foundation months after the 2016 primary was over.
Before the 2012 election David Sirota co-hosted a radio show on Clear Channel with Michael “Heck of a Job , Brownie” Brown, owned at the time by Mitt Romney’s Bain Capitol, where he spent much effort attacking Obama from the left as Brown attacked Obama from the right.
At one point, David Sirota had an article in the Huffington Post dishonestly attacking a candidate for school board; her opponent happened to be married to David Sirota.

I’m not a fan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:48:28am

re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus

Everyone knows that if Trump is convicted of anything, he’s just going to ignore it. Right?

They are already establishing the myth of the Deep State and the DOJ that is out to hunt Republicans and ignore Democrats. Trump’s convictions will just be their crowning argument in that scenario.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:29:06am

re: #107 Single-handed sailor

Doing the jobs Americans won’t do.

When I was a Navy recruiter in the run-up to the Persian Gulf War, recruiting wasn’t an issue. In the time since then, it still wasn’t an issue either when Republican or Democratic presidents were in charge.

As far as I can see, there’s only one change, and orange doesn’t come out of tropical whites very easily.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:58:32am

re: #109 freetoken

Time to buy a bunch of carrots for the trumpet player!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:03:46am

re: #107 Single-handed sailor

Doing the jobs Americans won’t do.

There is a nasty Holocaust denier in the recent comments on that article (I flagged him for targeted harassment against a group).

There is also a ton of conservaderp in that thread.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:18:36am

re: #61 teleskiguy

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It’s actually the same tactic used to attack other Dems who have gotten “Wall Street money” when they’ve actually gotten money from people merely employed by WS. Sirota is distorting shit for Bernie. Fucker.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:27:13am

Four tweets (and a long thread of comments):

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:27:33am

re: #108 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

David Sirota published hit pieces on the Clinton Foundation months after the 2016 primary was over.
Before the 2012 election David Sirota co-hosted a radio show on Clear Channel with Michael “Heck of a Job , Brownie” Brown, owned at the time by Mitt Romney’s Bain Capitol, where he spent much effort attacking Obama from the left as Brown attacked Obama from the right.
At one point, David Sirota had an article in the Huffington Post dishonestly attacking a candidate for school board; her opponent happened to be married to David Sirota.

I’m not a fan.

He’s just an all around hack and I guarantee the Bros I know will start distorting this immediately. As hoarse said, people in industries we dislike get a say. This is why I hope people pounce on the fact Bernie’s immigration record once received praise from Steve King and while he loves to talk about corporate responsibility- a legit thing- he hasn’t always been that consistent when it comes to the firearms industry. He’s also never met any racism that he doesn’t attempt to rationalize. Sirota wants to play hardball give it to him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:39:17am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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I believe that take is the most white privileged one you could have. Even if you want to argue that anti racism can be overzealous which I imagine is what this lame take is, it’s nothing compared to actual racism and this crap is exactly why libertarianism remains whiter and maler than ever. Libertarians have some good ideas but they are so zealously stupid sometimes trying to prove hyperbolic points that have no meat to them. There’s no difference between what the SPLC does- anti racism and actual racism I.e. what happens everyday to PoC.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:39:53am

The EU is offering PM May and the Tories an escape route. Will they admit defeat and Remain?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:41:35am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:45:44am

re: #118 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The EU is offering PM May and the Tories an escape route. Will they admit defeat and Remain?

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It is tough because the voters did vote yes on it but it’s also very clear that not did many average voters not know what it meant, neither did its elected proponents. Britain is in a mess of its own creation. Both May and Corbyn are nuts in their own ways. Feel awful since my cousins’ children are coming of age there.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:49:05am

re: #109 freetoken

Have a different kind of sleigh ride.

Prokofiev “Troika” (‘Lieutenant Kije’) - Fistoulari conducts

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:50:51am

Channel 9 uncovers similarities between absentee ballots in U.S. House District 9 race (WSOC, with video)

The television station discovered a pattern of people signing dozens of absentee ballots in NC-9’s House district election.

One of the ballot collectors was paid to turn over the ballots to a Republican politician, apparently not aware what she was told to do was illegal.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:52:33am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

It is tough because the voters did vote yes on it but it’s also very clear that not did many average voters not know what it meant, neither did its elected proponents. Britain is in a mess of its own creation. Both May and Corbyn are nuts in their own ways. Feel awful since my cousins’ children are coming of age there.

If Putin really is behind all this chaos, I have to begrudgingly admit he is a master at manipulation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:53:23am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹

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Dave In Austin  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:54:04am

re: #88 teleskiguy

Heh.

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The Cousin of Gorka……

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:56:05am

re: #123 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

If Putin really is behind all this chaos, I have to begrudgingly admit he is a master at manipulation.

TBH I actually think we’re in better shape for the Dems versus Labour situation.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:57:50am

Beto has a strong record on environmental issues btw. Checked. God this shit pisses me off. Sirota again showing why the far left like right will outright lie for their agenda.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:09:59am

The telephone company is sending me a new modem (allegedly will arrive today, but UPS doesn’t do Next Day to this area) … they say mine is obsolete.

If it actually does arrive today, I’ll be tangled up in my spaghetti lab hooking it up.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:12:10am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

TBH I actually think we’re in better shape for the Dems versus Labour situation.

Agreed. We may actually recover from the Trump era. The prospects for the UK to escape Brexit without serious harm don’t look good. I wish I was a fly on the wall of Her Majesty’s office when she meets with PM May, to see if she has any regal matronly advice for the Government.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:21:00am

More on NC-9:

Ah, yes, and let’s toss in one more AMAZING COINCIDENCE: Several of the witnesses are related to a gent named Leslie McCrae Dowless, a charming fellow hired by the Harris campaign as a contractor, according to affidavits. If Harris won, said one, Dowless would get $40,000 cash. He insisted on cash. Dowless was convicted in 1992 of felony fraud against an insurance company, not to mention a number of misdemeanor grifts over the years like kiting checks and failure to pay taxes. Public Radio aficionados may remember him from a segment on This American Life about absentee vote frauding in 2016:

He had some people working for him, getting out the vote— volunteers, McCrae calls them. The volunteers, though, were allegedly getting paid for each ballot they turned in. That is illegal. One of the voters who signed an affidavit said that Get Out the Vote workers came by and had her family request absentee ballots. But then they never received their absentee ballots in the mail like they were supposed to. Then, when the family went to vote on election day, they were told they’d already voted. In essence, McCrae’s getting accused of paying people to obtain absentee ballots, fill them out, and cast their votes on someone else’s behalf. That, for sure, is illegal. McCrae says he didn’t do anything wrong.

North Carolina Election F*ckery Just Got F*ckier

Thank heavens we stocked up on asterisks! (more)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:25:19am
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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:26:07am

re: #84 teleskiguy

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It’s posts like these that are why the purity pony crowd continually fail to get taken seriously:

This is the sort of shit that scares voters away, when you don’t simply say “I’m opposed to your industry and want to get you a cleaner job,” but instead “I think of you as my enemy and want neither your vote or your money unless you switch jobs to an industry I approve of.”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:26:58am

And reload my 129 since I flubbed a word in the original comment.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:33:23am

re: #132 Targetpractice

It’s posts like these that are why the purity pony crowd continually fail to get taken seriously:

This is the sort of shit that scares voters away, when you don’t simply say “I’m opposed to your industry and want to get you a cleaner job,” but instead “I think of you as my enemy and want neither your vote or your money unless you switch jobs to an industry I approve of.”

Yup.

In the ideal world, we could shut off the valves to petroleum plants and close every coal mine today. In the real world, that would be a disaster—that has to be replaced with something.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:42:49am

This has been an interesting story to follow. A young poet, Annie O’Toole, recent got nominated for some kind of national award. One of her poems was (in her words) inspired by a poem by Rachel McKibbens, while McKibbens and most other observers say it was plagiarized from McKibbens’ poem. Then another poet, after reviewing O’Toole’s work, found her poetry had also been “inspiring” to O’Toole. And then another. And another. The count is up to 14.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:45:10am

It looks like Scott Dworkin was not just blowing smoke in his tweet earlier today. We may have a helluva Friday news dump.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:49:55am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

Yup.

In the ideal world, we could shut off the valves to petroleum plants and close every coal mine today. In the real world, that would be a disaster—that has to be replaced with something.

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We all love that image of the idealized future where commercial fusion plants work together with renewable energy sources to provide us zero emission electricity to power our green homes, our electric cars that get thousands of miles per charge, and ultramodern industries that produce goods in an environmentally-friendly fashion.

Meanwhile, in the real world, polluting forms of power, industry, and transportation continue to be the norm because generations of purity ponies decided that the perfect must be the enemy of the good.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:54:42am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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A Mom Anon  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:58:42am

I just wanted to hand out a giant bunch of hugs 🤗 to everyone dealing with a loss and all the sadness that brings. This year is almost over, and I don’t think many of us will be sad to see it go. Let’s work and love and hope and work and love some more that 2019 isn’t a fucking dumpster fire from Hell. Sending hugs and love and warm cookies 🍪…..love you all.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:00:29am

Family of deceased has to promise prick they absolutely loath that attendees of their loved one’s funeral will avoid “insulting” said prick:

In other words, we can expect another round of “HOW DARE THEY SAY THAT ABOUT TRUMP!!!!” from the wingnut media over every…single…eulogy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:07:06am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:09:37am

Yesterday I reached my third year here, and reached 123,000 karma points a couple minutes ago.

Thanks for all y’all having me here.

I’m off to bed for now … trip into town awaits later today.

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jeffreyw  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:10:18am

Imgur


Good morning? Where are the peanuts you promised? Hey!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:13:06am

re: #143 jeffreyw

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Good morning? Where are the peanuts you promised? Hey!

He’ll go get the crew and scream at you thru the window until you relent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:14:04am

One of the final acts of the Republicans in the House and Senate will be to allow the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) to expire in two weeks before their recess.

Roll Call noted the expiration date that would necessitate a Congressional reauthorization. It was already given an extension until Dec. 7 when it was up Sept. 30. It’s now been extended until the 21st. Republicans decided not to use the opportunity to reauthorize it ahead of the 2018 midterm election. (more)

rawstory.com

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:20:39am

Lie O’ the day.

“I’m doing fine and bringing in $40k US a month.” Milo

Yiannopoulos told the Guardian in an email the documents referred to “company debts, not personal”.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:26:52am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹

One of the final acts of the Republicans in the House and Senate will be to allow the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) to expire in two weeks before their recess.

Roll Call noted the expiration date that would necessitate a Congressional reauthorization. It was already given an extension until Dec. 7 when it was up Sept. 30. It’s now been extended until the 21st. Republicans decided not to use the opportunity to reauthorize it ahead of the 2018 midterm election. (more)

rawstory.com

This is what happens when a party genuinely believes that the problem is they’re just not telling women to stay in the kitchen in the right way.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:31:25am

If you live in Georgia, today is the runoff election for Secretary of State. This is the chance to fix conservative election-fixing.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:35:11am

Morning!

Woke to the news that Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer is retiring after the Rose Bowl.

That is going to depress the local Columbus crowd and other Ohio State fans.

I guess his brain cyst is a bigger problem for him than most thought…added in with the stuff that happened with his assistant coach earlier, etc. and it is time to hang it up.

Also a lot of talk that he supposedly did not like the way he was hung out to dry at first when the domestic abuse issues happened in the late summer. I guess there was friction between the president of the university and him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:38:45am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

It is tough because the voters did vote yes on it but it’s also very clear that not did many average voters not know what it meant, neither did its elected proponents. Britain is in a mess of its own creation. Both May and Corbyn are nuts in their own ways. Feel awful since my cousins’ children are coming of age there.

It was not a binding vote, it was a request to Parliament to initiate Aricle 50 proceedings, which it duly followed.

They are under no legal constraints to follow through on it.

It will just mean an awful loss of face.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:38:48am

re: #140 Targetpractice

Family of deceased has to promise prick they absolutely loath that attendees of their loved one’s funeral will avoid “insulting” said prick:

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In other words, we can expect another round of “HOW DARE THEY SAY THAT ABOUT TRUMP!!!!” from the wingnut media over every…single…eulogy.

I guess praising HW as a father will trigger them too.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:43:58am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was not a binding vote, it was a request to Parliament to initiate Aricle 50 proceedings, which it duly followed.

They are under no legal constraints to follow through on it.

It will just mean an awful loss of face.

Wasn’t aware of that detail tbh.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:50:00am

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

Wisconsinites are revolting; they’re rising up, too. //

Is this about Wisconsin R’s and their very principled stance after having one of their own as governor for eight years to now roll back the governor’s power as a Dem governor prepares to take over after having been dually elected? Such principle very power.

///

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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:54:58am

re: #140 Targetpractice

Family of deceased has to promise prick they absolutely loath that attendees of their loved one’s funeral will avoid “insulting” said prick:

In other words, we can expect another round of “HOW DARE THEY SAY THAT ABOUT TRUMP!!!!” from the wingnut media over every…single…eulogy.

President Lock Her Up is such a Snowflake—maybe he’ll insist on vetting all the funeral speeches because if it’s one thing DJT hates its when people are critical of each other in speeches or on social media.

/

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:55:30am

Via Metafilter: A four-part series on how to wash your puma. Our cat Trixie watched very intently.

Russians are fucking crazy. Beautiful animal, though.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:56:49am

Today has got to be a better day.

Right?

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:57:46am

re: #59 teleskiguy

Shit. It’s not real.

Still funny

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:58:56am

re: #118 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The EU is offering PM May and the Tories an escape route. Will they admit defeat and Remain?

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No. They’re British (and Tories). Like I said earlier, they’ll go down with the ship, in full-dress uniform, singing “Rule Britannia”.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:00:08am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹

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Fuckers, make them pay. Make them pay out the ass.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:00:24am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

More on NC-9:

Ah, yes, and let’s toss in one more AMAZING COINCIDENCE: Several of the witnesses are related to a gent named Leslie McCrae Dowless, a charming fellow hired by the Harris campaign as a contractor, according to affidavits. If Harris won, said one, Dowless would get $40,000 cash. He insisted on cash. Dowless was convicted in 1992 of felony fraud against an insurance company, not to mention a number of misdemeanor grifts over the years like kiting checks and failure to pay taxes. Public Radio aficionados may remember him from a segment on This American Life about absentee vote frauding in 2016:

He had some people working for him, getting out the vote— volunteers, McCrae calls them. The volunteers, though, were allegedly getting paid for each ballot they turned in. That is illegal. One of the voters who signed an affidavit said that Get Out the Vote workers came by and had her family request absentee ballots. But then they never received their absentee ballots in the mail like they were supposed to. Then, when the family went to vote on election day, they were told they’d already voted. In essence, McCrae’s getting accused of paying people to obtain absentee ballots, fill them out, and cast their votes on someone else’s behalf. That, for sure, is illegal. McCrae says he didn’t do anything wrong.

North Carolina Election F*ckery Just Got F*ckier

Thank heavens we stocked up on asterisks! (more)

But, but Bill Mitchell said that all the vote Fraud was Dems that make their new House majority illegal!

//

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:01:29am

re: #136 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It looks like Scott Dworkin was not just blowing smoke in his tweet earlier today. We may have a helluva Friday news dump.

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As I’ve learned, Dworkin is to be taken with a big grain of salt, but in this instance, he might be onto something.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:03:26am

How many more white men will leave the party?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:03:40am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Has the message of anti-racism become as harmful a force in American life as racism itself?
— reason

HEY WERE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS HERE

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:05:18am

I hate David Sirota.

And it is not just because he is a Bernie tool.

He is a tool in general.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:08:14am

re: #28 jaunte

Of all the ugliness in politics, the utter disrespect George Conway shows toward his wife, her career, place of work, and everything she has fought SO hard to achieve, might top them all. @KellyannePolls is great person and frankly his actions are horrible.

— Eric Trump

Whenever I want a principled stance on politics I always turn to Eric.

////

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:11:01am

re: #121 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Have a different kind of sleigh ride.

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Video

This has always been a fave

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:15:51am

re: #132 Targetpractice

It’s posts like these that are why the purity pony crowd continually fail to get taken seriously:

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This is the sort of shit that scares voters away, when you don’t simply say “I’m opposed to your industry and want to get you a cleaner job,” but instead “I think of you as my enemy and want neither your vote or your money unless you switch jobs to an industry I approve of.”

It’s easier to denounce and demagogue than to find solutions

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:18:05am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t aware of that detail tbh.

Lots of people are unaware that the Brexit referendum was not binding, it was just a request, as the were of a lot of other details connected to this fiasco

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:18:25am

re: #138 A Mom Anon

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:18:54am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

My condolences to Unshaken on the passing of your mentor, friend, and words can’t begin to express how difficult this must be for you and yours. We’re here for you as best as we can under the circumstances.

Be well, and take care of yourself and be comforted by the memories and happy times you shared with him.

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Jay C  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:18:58am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t aware of that detail tbh.

Most people (here or in Britain) aren’t/weren’t. The Brexit referendum wasn’t legally binding, but a disgracefullly large segment of their political establishment decided to treat it that way in order to try to exploit the Leave sentiments (mainly greed, exploitation and racist xenophobia, IMO: dressed up in “nationalism” as an excuse) for political advantage.
And we can see how that’s worked out…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:20:46am

re: #171 Jay C

Most people (here or in Britain) aren’t/weren’t. The Brexit referendum wasn’t legally binding, but a disgracefullly large segment of their political establishment decided to treat it that way in order to try to exploit the Leave sentiments (mainly greed, exploitation and racist xenophobia, IMO: dressed up in “nationalism” as an excuse) for political advantage.
And we can see how that’s worked out…

They use the argument that backing out of it would somehow “damage democracy”.

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:21:45am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

As I’ve learned, Dworkin is to be taken with a big grain of salt, but in this instance, he might be onto something.

I’ve seen this reported elsewhere this am

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:23:22am

re: #170 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

My condolences to Unshaken on the passing of your mentor, friend, and words can’t begin to express how difficult this must be for you and yours. We’re here for you as best as we can under the circumstances.

Be well, and take care of yourself and be comforted by the memories and happy times you shared with him.

Thank you my friend. I must admit my adopted nic is hard to live up to today. I am shaken to the core. The resolve of the family and crew to do right by him is inspiring and heartening.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:26:16am

re: #166 dangerman

This has always been a fave

Funny thing is, that tune has been playing in my mind lately for no apparent reason. Maybe it’s the wintry weather here.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:27:28am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They use the argument that backing out of it would somehow “damage democracy”.

By which they mean if they backed out of it, their asses would be gone in the next general election.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:31:12am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lots of people are unaware that the Brexit referendum was not binding, it was just a request, as the were of a lot of other details connected to this fiasco

I’ve noticed that the only people aware of the non-binding nature of the Brexit referendum are the “remainers”. Interestingly, I’ve seen the Brexiteers blatantly retcon reality itself and insist that the referendum was, in fact, legally binding (which it wasn’t, and when that’s pointed out, they straight-up say it’s “fake news”)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:35:33am

‘Tis bedtime for me here. Busy day awaits me tomorrow. See you all later!

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:40:05am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹

Ike’s Operation Wetback rounded up US citizens and deported them as well.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:41:05am

re: #123 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

If Putin really is behind all this chaos, I have to begrudgingly admit he is a master at manipulation.

They don’t just teach home ec. at KGB prep school.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:41:46am

re: #43 Charles Johnson

“Rampage” is a really stupid movie, but kind of fun in a really stupid “giant monsters laying waste to Chicago” way. Just turn it off before the last 10 minutes because that’s when it gets REALLY stupid.

You have to imagine playing the arcade game, which was a lot of fun.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:43:24am

re: #56 KGxvi

As a libertarian sort, allow me to answer:

No. No, it has not. Thank you for attending my TED Talk

You put up with us here. You’re not a real libertarian.

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MsJ  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:43:33am

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn. Ann be PISSED.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:47:51am

re: #70 freetoken

Yup.

However, to me it does not make a big difference if a candidate gets $50 from an oil field worker, or $5k from the company executive. Both donors are participating willingly in the same endeavor.

The real problem is that Sirota and his ilk are too puritanical, not willing to accept the real world of politics.

Any politician in Texas will need to get voters from those who are connected to the oil and gas industries, because those are large industries in Texas.

That first statement is pretty severe. Do you consider the guy who goes into a coal mine to be equivalent to a coal executive?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:49:08am

re: #93 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Is he completely devoid of any decorum or common sense?

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Also, I found it inappropriate for Trump to salute HW as finished “paying his respects” by the casket.

That video is from Memorial Day, 2017, not that it was any less inappropriate then either.
reuters.com

Donald Trump Smiles And Sways Around During National Anthem At Arlington Cemetery

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:50:21am

re: #171 Jay C

Most people (here or in Britain) aren’t/weren’t. The Brexit referendum wasn’t legally binding, but a disgracefullly large segment of their political establishment decided to treat it that way in order to try to exploit the Leave sentiments (mainly greed, exploitation and racist xenophobia, IMO: dressed up in “nationalism” as an excuse) for political advantage.
And we can see how that’s worked out…

From what I was reading, it seems that Poles and other Slavic groups are the favorite punching bag of the British nationalists like Hispanics are ours. Makes it all the more fucked up for me to see people with Slavic surnames engaging in that shit here. I say that as someone who has Slavic immigrant cousins as well as ancestors. Was very relieved to see one of my cousins I met this summer in Slovakia can’t stand Trump. He posted the story about how the Germans kicked out Trump’s grandfather and my response was that Germany’s gain became our loss, he agreed.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:52:13am

re: #162 Belafon

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How many more white men will leave the party?

I can ignore the 216th begging email from a chairwoman as easily as one from a chairman.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:52:32am

re: #184 Belafon

That first statement is pretty severe. Do you consider the guy who goes into a coal mine to be equivalent to a coal executive?

It’s just such a dishonest tactic by Sirota who it seems has done this for other things too like attacking a school board candidate without disclosing that individual happened to be running against Mrs. Sirota. In a way, I appreciate guys like Sirota because they do show me that our side has its own problems and we’re not immune from them but holy cow what a dick move. The hardcore Berners are definitely afraid of Beto stealing Bernie’s thunder especially with young people.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:57:18am

re: #179 Belafon

Ike’s Operation Wetback rounded up US citizens and deported them as well.

Definitely an event that has me thinking less of Ike than I did before and I bet many of those included men who served under him in the Army.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 6:59:00am

I would see Sirota’s stuff at Daily Kos during Obama’s years and quickly grew to dislike him.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:00:00am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

From what I was reading, it seems that Poles and other Slavic groups are the favorite punching bag of the British nationalists like Hispanics are ours. Makes it all the more fucked up for me to see people with Slavic surnames engaging in that shit here. I say that as someone who has Slavic immigrant cousins as well as ancestors. Was very relieved to see one of my cousins I met this summer in Slovakia can’t stand Trump. He posted the story about how the Germans kicked out Trump’s grandfather and my response was that Germany’s gain became our loss, he agreed.

Something I remember noticing in the runup to the Brexit vote in 2016 was a good deal of anti-Slavic bigotry being openly expressed in the comments sections of the UK tabloids - the bulk of it was aimed at Poles and to a lesser extent, Czechs and Slovaks. It was pretty vicious, to put it mildly.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:04:37am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:05:07am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Something I remember noticing in the runup to the Brexit vote in 2016 was a good deal of anti-Slavic bigotry being openly expressed in the comments sections of the UK tabloids - the bulk of it was aimed at Poles and to a lesser extent, Czechs and Slovaks. It was pretty vicious, to put it mildly.

Ocean City, Maryland where I usually make a yearly trip to the beach since the surf is pretty good there and I have a cousin who lives there who I always see often has seasonable workers from out of country. When I was little, it was frequently Irish kids but now it’s more Eastern European kids. I always like talking to them and finding out where they’re from and I think they do appreciate an American who not only knows Slovakia isn’t remotely the same as Russia but wants to know more. It really says a lot about Trump that he doesn’t see the harm nationalism has done to Europe especially. And it has and could get worse here too if we continue to let illegals be treated like hardened criminals.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:05:48am

re: #192 Ace-o-aces

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That’s because Flynn is a modern day Edwin Walker, a right wing flake hack.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:09:23am

re: #190 Belafon

I would see Sirota’s stuff at Daily Kos during Obama’s years and quickly grew to dislike him.

I remembered the name vaguely in the Bush years but then I think he was just another lefty trying to get his voice heard. i don’t have a problem with him being critical of Beto. No one is above criticism but what he did here was dishonest and he knows it. And as I said, if Bernie runs and I am convinced more than ever he in fact will, let him have it from the left. Let him know that he loves to talk about corporate responsibility but doesn’t extend that same to the firearms industry. Let him know that he’s a jerk on immigration in both word and deed. Let him know that his excusing racism isn’t acceptable just because his beloved white working class engage in it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:11:32am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:12:01am

We would have taken away his car keys if Donnie was our parent or a grandparent.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:12:50am

A Ramirez cartoon that actually makes sense!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:13:54am

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

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Tarriff Man and his sidekick Reparative Therapy Boy!

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:16:32am

From the “You Don’t Say!” file:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:17:00am

re: #200 Targetpractice

From the “You Don’t Say!” file:

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Yeah this is how a normal presidency operates.

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Teukka  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:17:18am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:19:40am

Some good news, even if it’s years late.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:23:48am

I’m gonna take a guess that the only “agreement” made between Donny and Xi was the 90 day “ceasefire” while negotiations continued. And everything else we’ve been told has been the fanciful dreams of a conman trying to convince his marks that he didn’t get taken for everything but his shirt.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:26:02am

re: #83 teleskiguy

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Dude, that dye job on your hair is hideous. Age gracefully, let it get white!

Arnold a “statesman”?

Worst Governor California ever had.

Took Jerry Brown 8 years to undo the damage that Governor Red Ink Junky did.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:26:42am

re: #202 Teukka

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Fascinating read thanks.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:26:51am

re: #200 Targetpractice

From the “You Don’t Say!” file:

Trump thinks he can make it reality by saying it out loud.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:29:01am

re: #205 Joe Bacon 🌹

Arnold a “statesman”?

Worst Governor California ever had.

Took Jerry Brown 8 years to undo the damage that Governor Red Ink Junky did.

Worse than Pete Wilson?

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:29:15am

re: #207 Belafon

Trump thinks he can make it reality by saying it out loud.

Yeah, surprise, a businessman decides to govern like he ran his companies: Telling his underlings to make whatever he desires happen and berating them if they can’t do it as he demanded.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:30:08am

re: #92 teleskiguy

Frank Zappa died 25 years ago. I paged the 20th anniversary of his death. Where does the time go?

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Video

Yes it’s the first day of Zappadan which goes through the 21st (anniversary of the date he was born).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:30:44am

re: #208 Belafon

Worse than Pete Wilson?

Yes if you look at all the red ink he ran up!

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Mattand  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:31:04am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

Never ceases to amaze me that what little of the voter fraud that actually occurs in this country is usually perpetrated by Republicans.

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plansbandc  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:32:06am

re: #166 dangerman

Always a favorite. So beautiful.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:34:14am

re: #212 Mattand

Never ceases to amaze me that what little of the voter fraud that actually occurs in this country is usually perpetrated by Republicans.

You can bet if Republicans are accusing Democrats of something, they’re actually doing it which makes me wonder about the people who promoted Pizzagate.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:34:38am

re: #212 Mattand

Never ceases to amaze me that what little of the voter fraud that actually occurs in this country is usually perpetrated by Republicans.

To the total silence of the “ZOMG!!! DEMS STEALIN’ ELECTIONS THROUGH VOTER FRAUD!!!” Faux News crowd.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:35:23am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:37:32am

re: #216 Ace-o-aces

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Frederick Douglass vouches for Scott Free. Great guy. You’re gonna love him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:39:33am

re: #121 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Have a different kind of sleigh ride.

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Video

I’m so old I remember Ernie Kovacs using this music in some of his TV routines.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:39:44am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:41:09am

re: #219 Ace-o-aces

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Yes, facts always have 2 opposing sides to them

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:41:13am

re: #219 Ace-o-aces

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Never saw this argument made when it was someone being investigated that Alan didn’t like. And yes that’s why we have trials.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:41:48am

Try as I might, I could not find a single fuck to give.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:42:03am

I’d welcome a trial tbh Mueller actually has a clue where Rudy has not a damn.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:42:31am

re: #222 Targetpractice

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Try as I might, I could not find a single fuck to give.

This is just like the Holocaust!//

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:44:29am

I would’ve gone with Black Sabbath’s Iron Man…

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:44:37am

re: #219 Ace-o-aces

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That’s right, Alan, keep sucking his cock and maybe Donny will finally nominate you for AG.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:45:24am

re: #205 Joe Bacon 🌹

Arnold a “statesman”?

Worst Governor California ever had.

Took Jerry Brown 8 years to undo the damage that Governor Red Ink Junky did.

No, that would be Ronald Reagan.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:45:37am

re: #225 Barefoot Grin

I would’ve gone with Black Sabbath’s Iron Man…

FFS. How embarrassing.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:46:40am

re: #225 Barefoot Grin

I would’ve gone with Black Sabbath’s Iron Man…

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Sing us another song, you’re the tariff man.
Well we’re all waiting for a rage filled tweet at 3 am Eastern Standard time.

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plansbandc  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:50:40am

re: #228 Dr. Matt

Always. Every day and in every way.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:52:06am

re: #227 Scottish Dragon

No, that would be Ronald Reagan.

Pruneface was bad, Wilson was racist but Arnold was fucking incompetent.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:53:04am

Son of a bitch - that bastard Epstein has settled again, and once again his victims do not get to testify.

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:53:56am

re: #184 Belafon

That first statement is pretty severe. Do you consider the guy who goes into a coal mine to be equivalent to a coal executive?

its asinine
- people need work. they need to eat, feed families, have a roof, healthcare etc
- everyone cannot simply find another job - there arent that many - in fact if there were, many might have
- everyone cannot simply move to find a new job - there are hundreds of complicated reasons why that’s just not reality (cost, family ties, schools, jobs of others in the family)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:55:50am

re: #225 Barefoot Grin

I would’ve gone with Black Sabbath’s Iron Man…

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I am the very model of a modern US President,
My brains corroded from snotting too much Pepsodent…
.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 7:56:36am

re: #232 makeitstop

Son of a bitch - that bastard Epstein has settled again, and once again his victims do not get to testify.

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And Asshole Alan Dershowitz breathes another sigh of relief…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:00:19am

jeebus the rest of his tweets are delusional

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:00:27am

re: #235 Joe Bacon 🌹

And Asshole Alan Dershowitz breathes another sigh of relief…

Don’t him and Trump share Epstein? Might that be his reason for being such a vigorous Orange enabler?

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:00:41am

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

….I am a Tariff Man. When people or countries come in to raid the great wealth of our Nation, I want them to pay for the privilege of doing so. It will always be the best way to max out our economic power. We are right now taking in $billions in Tariffs. MAKE AMERICA RICH AGAIN

- ‘foreign’ companies selling goods to us is “raiding”
- we are not taking in “billions” - and who the hell is ‘we’?

if you wanted foreign companies to ‘pay for the privilege’, you tax them (or try to) (no i am not an advocate)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:00:46am

and this is just disgusting

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:01:54am
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:02:13am

re: #222 Targetpractice

Try as I might, I could not find a single fuck to give.

I think we’re supposed to point and laugh.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:04:11am

re: #231 Joe Bacon 🌹

Pruneface was bad, Wilson was racist but Arnold was fucking incompetent.

So, you’d take racist over incompetent? Not much of a choice, I agree.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:06:38am
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:06:47am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Further proof that racism has nothing to do with economics, nor the South. It’s just more obvious down here.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:07:19am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

and this is just disgusting

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They’re not looking forward to seeing you. Stop making their loss about you. You don’t care about their loss.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:09:32am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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2018 y’all.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:12:47am

So, here’s your laughably bad movie of the week - The Crater Lake Monster:

THE CRATER LAKE MONSTER | Full Length Sci-Fi Movie | Richard Cardella | English | 720p | HD

And despite the title, it’s not connected to Crater Lake, OR.

Wooden acting, a claymation monster that looks like it was made in Mrs. Johnson’s sixth-grade arts class and a production budget of about $1.98.

Yep…..it’s got it all.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:14:36am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Don’t him and Trump share Epstein? Might that be his reason for being such a vigorous Orange enabler?

Trump and Dersh are all tangled up in this story. One of the girls who got taken in by Epstein was working at Mar-A-Lago when she was recruited.

You gotta wonder how much money Epstein threw at this case to make it go away yet again.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:17:34am

Yeah re: #248 makeitstop

Trump and Dersh are all tangled up in this story. One of the girls who got taken in by Epstein was working at Mar-A-Lago when she was recruited.

You gotta wonder how much money Epstein threw at this case to make it go away yet again.

Ah ok. Knew there was an intersection

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:29:21am

This is so pathetic:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:32:08am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

This is so pathetic:

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What about the money we lose funding your trips to Mar A Lago and to golf? We’re also going to have to pay to keep you behind bars.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:38:03am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

We can explain it to Trump, but it’s like talking to a goddamned wall.

A potted plant has more comprehension and understanding.

It doesn’t cost Americans $250 billion a year. That’s a bulkshit made up figure.

Even other right wing extremists peg the cost at over $100 billion, which doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

And removing illegals would mean lower productivity and lower output, as they’re doing a lot of jobs Americans wouldn’t do - like agriculture, service industries, construction, etc.

The wall is a known boondoggle that won’t stop illegals (by Trump’s own admission, they can use ladders and ropes, and then later admitted that he wants it see-thru so you can’t throw stuff over and hit someone on the head with it - aka a fence).

Drugs aren’t streaming across the border either as CBP admits - the bulk of drugs coming into the US are via package deliveries these days, including from China in amounts under 3 ounces - fentanyl is worth more than most other opiates due to its strength and cutting it can mean that 3 ounces is worth more than kilos of other opiates.

Border crossings are at multi year lows, a trend starting before Trump took office. But Trump’s feeding the private prison sector by sending those captured to these private facilities on the taxpayer dime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:39:11am

JFC, moron retweets a wingnut, again…

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:39:36am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:40:31am

Like clockwork, stocks are down after gains the day before, after the world realizes that Trump’s word of a new “trade agreement” with China was total bullshit. He does this every time. Promises that there’s a yuge deal/breakthrough, the media reports it, stocks gain, then a day later the truth comes out. I swear, he’s shorting the market.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:44:24am
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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:45:56am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

This is so pathetic:

Could somebody please explain to the Democrats (we need their votes) that our Country losses 250 Billion Dollars a year on illegal immigration, not including the terrible drug flow. Top Border Security, including a Wall, is $25 Billion. Pays for itself in two months. Get it done!

some ‘negotiator’ - apparently you can’t
oh, and

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:46:20am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, moron tweets a wingnut, again…

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Hey Charlie a black serviceman was killed in cold blood but I see you don’t give a fuck because you’d rather engage in Kremlin propaganda. Btw you are actually on the same side as real Communists not the ones you think everyone else is.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:47:03am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

These series of tweets provide direct confirmation that there are no policy boundaries Trump can cross in direct violation to traditional Republican /Libertarian ideals that his supporters will instead either ignore or applaud.

Here we have Trump crowing about perceived Tariff receipts that are fed to the Federal Government instead of being realized as business revenues. This is in direct conflict with well-worn policy bedrocks of Republicanism. Instead of condemnation from Republicans, we have silence at best. We see this pattern on behavior over and over again from the cult of Trump. There is literally no policy Trump can violate that they will ignore all in the name of keeping White Power as an institution.

…except one policy. If Trump were to even suggest enabling black or brown skinned people to garner more power in the Trumpland’s zero-sum game world, they would turn on him in an instant.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:47:18am

re: #254 gocart mozart

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I think Roy’s being a little sarcastic there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:47:29am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:47:35am

re: #254 gocart mozart

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After Huckleberry lied about what she said but stay classy third rate wingnut paper founded by a cult leader.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:49:04am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fascist swines.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:51:13am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:51:35am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a stunning admission in the #NC09 election controversy by ⁦@wsoctv⁩’s ⁦@JoeBrunoWSOC9⁩ on what one of the “harvesters” did with the absentee by mail ballots she picked up: #ncpol

jail, fines, loss of 2A rights… oh wait, that’s a different discussion

how about this then:
- JAIL
- AND A NEW GODDAMNED ELECTION

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:52:01am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

They’re not looking forward to seeing you. Stop making their loss about you. You don’t care about their loss.

He cares about their loss. He is probably looking at the whole ceremony as a way to make himself look good by acting ‘presidential’, a chance to make a pivot.

A way to get the media and his base behind him as he knows the Mueller Report is coming out soon.

The Don needs to start building his defense any way he can.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:53:09am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ah Trump’s friends. Always there to undercut his legs when he thinks he’s running away from Putin. Idiot made a deal with people smarter than he ever was or will be.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:53:10am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:53:56am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pretty sure that “we want tr*mp” is not being chanted anywhere, let alone the streets of Paris.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:57:46am

re: #269 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Pretty sure that “we want tr*mp” is not being chanted anywhere, let alone the streets of Paris.

Maybe in Russian. But I’ve yet to meet a European who likes Trump and I know more than Trump does via my family, research, & travels.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 8:58:13am

re: #269 Colère Tueur de Lapin

well, there has been reporting that the “yellow vests” doing the protests are Russia-backed, so they could very well be chanting that

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:03:26am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Russian media is reporting that the US isn’t behind the French riots (go figure). They’re too busy projecting like IMAX too. Russian manipulation of media and entities across Europe and here in the US via Trump continues piling up.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:04:30am

Ha! perfect

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:04:44am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, there has been reporting that the “yellow vests” doing the protests are Russia-backed, so they could very well be chanting that

Maybe some day our media and many of the wingnuts will figure out the Russians are using very common tactics against us (the west) with their help.

Two and a half years later and they are still swallowing the Russian’s big fat shiny lures.

If Putin knows one thing it is how to poke at our thoughts, trends, media, fashions, talking points, etc.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:12:06am

re: #274 ObserverArt

This is a good thread on who is behind the ‘yellow jacket’ movement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:12:58am

heh

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:13:02am
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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:13:42am

More pathetic than sad IMO

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:14:39am
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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:15:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:16:29am

re: #272 lawhawk

Russian media is reporting that the US isn’t behind the French riots (go figure). They’re too busy projecting like IMAX too. Russian manipulation of media and entities across Europe and here in the US via Trump continues piling up.

It sounds more like a case of a grassroots sentiment that they simply helped catalyze into a movement, like our Tea Party or the Jade Helm protests.

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sagehen  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:17:00am

re: #277 gocart mozart

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The subtitles on the broadcast called her Grandma Cocoa.

He asked if she watches his show; she said no, because there’s no electricity.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:18:28am

re: #278 gocart mozart

More pathetic than sad IMO

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Is that really Jr’s account? Isn’t more likely a parody account? No check mark.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:19:40am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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“battletested”

“fighter”

This fuckin’ guy.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:26:48am

Looks like Putin had to top off the kompromat bins…

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austin_blue  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:32:52am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

This is so pathetic:

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It is, because it’s a complete fabrication.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:34:44am

re: #285 makeitstop

Looks like Putin had to top off the kompromat bins…

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those fuckers should have been aware how vulnerable their systems can be

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:35:55am

With due respect to Billy Joel…

Don was a millionaire businessman,
Who never had time for his wife.
But he’ll turn twenty colors, when he finds out Mueller,
Is locking his friends up for life.

Send us a tweet, you’re the Tariff Man,
Rambling on about things you can’t grasp.
If you can’t tell we’re all making fun of you,
Because you’re such a pompous, orange ass.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:36:38am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

those fuckers should have been aware how vulnerable their systems can be

I’m also seeing that the info security team that they used was….

Crowdstrike.

Yeah, I’m not kidding.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:36:53am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:37:26am

re: #285 makeitstop

Looks like Putin had to top off the kompromat bins…

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Heh, that is Ohio House Rep Steve Stivers (D 15) gig as he is the NRCC chair since 2017.

I hope those emails expose him for the fraud he is. Why a fraud? Because he paints himself as some kind of bipartisan willing to work with both sides and cried about all the split politics in the USA. Then he goes and votes straight Republican and backs Trump.

He got in a bit of a jam this past election for some of the political commercials he ran that were all kinds of partisan bullshit. He often used Soros the scary Jewish money man in the commercials.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:39:26am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Still being a petty douche I see tho.

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:41:34am

re: #266 ObserverArt

He cares about their loss. He is probably looking at the whole ceremony as a way to make himself look good by acting ‘presidential’, a chance to make a pivot.

A way to get the media and his base behind him as he knows the Mueller Report is coming out soon.

The Don needs to start building his defense any way he can.

i do not believe he’s thinking anything like this
you are right, he ought to be

time will tell

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:43:42am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:47:33am
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:47:52am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:54:54am
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:55:18am

The goddamned NRA (Russia branch) decides that mass shootings aren’t a problem in the US because we, as a population of 300 million plus, don’t have the same per-capita mass shootings as other places, like say: Yemen or Afghanistan or Pakistan or parts of Africa - many of which are war-torn regions, suffering from civil war etc.

So, instead of identifying why mass shootings are unique to the US in sheer volume, the NRA instead trots out a stat that obfuscates the matter.

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 9:55:42am

“I am a gaffe machine, but my God what a wonderful thing compared to a guy who can’t tell the truth.”

— Joe Biden, quoted by CNN.

what a brilliantly grand statement

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:00:44am

re: #293 dangerman

i do not believe he’s thinking anything like this
you are right, he ought to be

time will tell

I’m pretty sure his handlers are thinking like I commented.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:01:09am

re: #282 sagehen

Apparently Gogo is a nickname for grandma in S Africa.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:02:41am

So, which is more likely: NRCC hack blamed on DNC or held up as “proof” that the Russians wanted the DNC to win the midterms?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:04:48am

re: #302 Targetpractice

So, which is more likely: NRCC hack blamed on DNC or held up as “proof” that the Russians wanted the DNC to win the midterms?

Can’t it be both but I suggest the latter will be the FNC and Trump talking points.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:05:42am
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:07:10am

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

Trump: No one can know for sure..

Corker: Jury would unanimously convict in 30 minutes.

Yeah, we can’t take Trump at his word -ever

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:08:21am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:08:42am

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

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Oh so what are you going to do after you tuck tail and make smiles with your lunatic successor.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:09:22am
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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:11:00am

re: #305 lawhawk

Trump: No one can know for sure..

Corker: Jury would unanimously convict in 30 minutes.

Yeah, we can’t take Trump at his word -ever

And that is as far as Corker’s admittance will go…a statement to the media.

He will not stand up to his party or the leader of that party Donald Trump.

Piss off Corker, you are a pissant in your party. Slink away by retiring, that is the move of a wimp that knows he is beaten by his own.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:11:56am

derek and his ilk are morons

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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:12:08am

re: #302 Targetpractice

So, which is more likely: NRCC hack blamed on DNC or held up as “proof” that the Russians wanted the DNC to win the midterms?

Oh, RNC hacked, then this is very serious business. If Dems were hacked, it was their own fault.

//

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:13:18am

re: #308 lawhawk

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Soap Burt Invisible.flv

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:14:21am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

derek and his ilk are morons

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I imagine there are strict rules about what a Congressperson can do with her staff’s pay budget. And I agree completely with Alexandria. The usual out of touch douchebags who have never had to know what it’s like to make ends meet attack her.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:17:44am
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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:18:15am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Between climate issues and anti-vax people, humans are bound to be eliminated from this planet by conservative “thinking.”

Actually the two, heat and disease might work together to do the job.Nature can cook up stuff we don’t even comprehend yet that can wipe us out.

It is an oncoming disaster and the conservative mind is the same as the joke about God saving them from a flood disaster. “I sent your brainy scientists and fantastic medical brains and you ignored them.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:20:09am
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Teukka  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:20:36am

Sanity break:

Facebook Post

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:21:54am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

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But since it is a repub admin nothing more will be said?

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:22:16am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

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They had their briefing, they’ve made their press statements, on with the court-packing!

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:23:05am
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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:26:08am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

I have great respect for Pompeo & Mattis [but] If they were in a Dem administration, I would be all over them for being in the pocket of Saudi Arabia

‘But since they’re in a Republican administration, it’s very cool and very legal.’

Party over the Rule of Law, as usual.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:31:44am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

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Shorter Lindsay, I’m a partisan hack.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:41:29am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

derek and his ilk are morons

And that’s where she, and we, are different than the GOP. Why does the waitress deserve a break, they ask?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:46:56am

re: #297 Sufficient unto the day…

It’s time for Some More News.

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Video

The point he made about many “law-abiding” people with guns really want the opportunity to actually use them struck home with me. When my RW brother lived in Florida, he often talked about offering to help a neighbor who held an official post when he was investigating criminal activity. And it’s not as though my brother had any military or other relevant experience: he is just an NRA member with too many guns and no where to go.


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