Some More News: Sure, You Can Be a Good Guy With a Gun, as Long as You Aren’t Black

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In today’s episode, it turns out that you can be a good guy with a gun, as long as you’re not black. But at least the NRA will speak up and… Oh, wait.

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1
William Lewis  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:30:26am

Cops see a black man with a gun, they execute him. That is true in Alabama or Minnesota and would certainly be true even in liberal Madison WI.

I can carry because I am fat old white man. My son, being Asian, would probably get killed if he had a gun in public. And I have made sure he knows that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:34:16am

re: #1 William Lewis

Cops see a black man with a gun, they execute him. That is true in Alabama or Minnesota and would certainly be true even in liberal Madison WI.

I can carry because I am fat old white man. My son, being Asian, would probably get killed if he had a gun in public. And I have made sure he knows that.

I think that’s what frustrates me because there is a double standard here and you’re right it’s wvetuwh regardless how liberal it may be.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:37:05am

re: #2 HappyWarrior

I think that’s what frustrates me because there is a double standard here and you’re right it’s wvetuwh regardless how liberal it may be.

I don’t care how liberal your area is.

The cops there are not liberals. Especially the white male cops. If you are black and carrying anything in your hand at all, you can get shot. Hell, you can get shot and have nothing in your hands in the first place while walking casually.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:41:00am

I don’t really understand what’s happening here except there’s now a disincentive to invest in longer longer term treasury notes and the same thing happened a year before the financial crisis hit. So this could be a harbinger of bad things to come.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:52:11am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really understand what’s happening here except there’s now a disincentive to invest in longer longer term treasury notes and the same thing happened a year before the financial crisis hit. So this could be a harbinger of bad things to come.

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On the one hand, I remember the hardships of the Great Recession and really do not want to relive them again.

On the other, seeing Donny dragged for 2 years because of a massive recession he caused/sped up would warm the cockles of my cold, black heart.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:55:42am

re: #5 Targetpractice

On the one hand, I remember the hardships of the Great Recession and really do not want to relive them again.

On the other, seeing Donny dragged for 2 years back of a massive recession he caused/sped up would warm the cockles of cold, black heart.

Trump will emerge from this “intact” but many Americans will lose their homes/businesses because they don’t have an inheritance to rely on as Trump did originally. But for all of Trump’s touts about the economy, that’s the one thing keeping him afloat even among his bigot brigade base. If the economy implodes, they’ll desert him too - or else blame the downturn on Democrats and spin conspiracies to prove that too.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:57:55am

re: #6 lawhawk

Trump will emerge from this “intact” but many Americans will lose their homes/businesses because they don’t have an inheritance to rely on as Trump did originally. But for all of Trump’s touts about the economy, that’s the one thing keeping him afloat even among his bigot brigade base. If the economy implodes, they’ll desert him too - or else blame the downturn on Democrats and spin conspiracies to prove that too.

They’ll blame Democrats somehow and/or claim that it was a market correction that they knew was coming and thus Donny had nothing to do with it. You know, just like the unbroken economic recovery under Obama was “THE WORST EVA!!!” but Donny producing the exact same numbers is “THE START OF A NEW GOLDEN ERA!!!”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 4, 2018 • 10:58:27am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really understand what’s happening here except there’s now a disincentive to invest in longer longer term treasury notes and the same thing happened a year before the financial crisis hit. So this could be a harbinger of bad things to come.

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I foresee major inflation, combined with a very sluggish investment pattern for the excess money. This is tied to the tax cuts, which increase the money supply both directly, by leaving it in fatcat hands, and indirectly, through deficit spending. The sluggishness results from a lack of incentive for capital investment, as opposed to money market speculation.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:08:21am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I foresee major inflation, combined with a very sluggish investment pattern for the excess money. This is tied to the tax cuts, which increase the money supply both directly, by leaving it in fatcat hands, and indirectly, through deficit spending. The sluggishness results from a lack of incentive for capital investment, as opposed to money market speculation.

In other words…we got ours and we are hanging onto it for when the rough times come that we have created by holding our money.

Hahahaha, And you foolish little people that voted for Trump and Republicans bought the bullshit. Thanks…and good luck when the shit hits the fan.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:10:39am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I foresee major inflation, combined with a very sluggish investment pattern for the excess money. This is tied to the tax cuts, which increase the money supply both directly, by leaving it in fatcat hands, and indirectly, through deficit spending. The sluggishness results from a lack of incentive for capital investment, as opposed to money market speculation.

Inflation might not be a bad thing at this point. It’ll force wages up, and in theory at least, would make it easier for people with debt to afford their payments. That has always been one of the reasons that taking on student loan debt or mortgage payments wasn’t necessarily a bad thing - if you figure for reasonable inflation, you’re paying less in the later years. But with inflation being mostly non-existent and wage stagnation, those kinds of safe debt for people outside the top couple percent have become less safe and more expensive.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:14:25am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

So, for those of us with basic 401ks and HSAs, where should we put the money, and for how long?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:15:19am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:15:22am

Everytime Trump runs his mouth about the economy my 401K takes a shit.

Fuck you, you orange jackass.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:18:08am
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:20:12am

re: #7 Targetpractice

They’ll blame Democrats somehow and/or claim that it was a market correction that they knew was coming and thus Donny had nothing to do with it. You know, just like the unbroken economic recovery under Obama was “THE WORST EVA!!!” but Donny producing the exact same numbers is “THE START OF A NEW GOLDEN ERA!!!”

They’ll run to Democrats to save them and then run to Republicans to punish the “others” for having to be rescued.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:20:19am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:27:15am

re: #7 Targetpractice

They’ll blame Democrats somehow and/or claim that it was a market correction that they knew was coming and thus Donny had nothing to do with it. You know, just like the unbroken economic recovery under Obama was “THE WORST EVA!!!” but Donny producing the exact same numbers is “THE START OF A NEW GOLDEN ERA!!!”

My brother already claims that the 2008 downturn was due to the Democrats taking control of Congress. It is natural that he is now spouting that recent market problems before the election were due to the anticipated change in control in the House. Except for the Koch Bros and their ilk, all who support Donald are totally deluded and have lost the ability to think critically on their own. They dismiss news sources that don’t conform to their preconceived notions.

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steve_davis  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:27:50am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really understand what’s happening here except there’s now a disincentive to invest in longer longer term treasury notes and the same thing happened a year before the financial crisis hit. So this could be a harbinger of bad things to come.

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it means that bond specialists are factoring in a recession by keeping their money on the short end. They simply can’t make an educated guess on what may happen more than 2 years out. Maybe we’ll be cycling out of a short-term recession. Or maybe we’ll be dropping a rope into a highly-radioactive crater in hopes of bringing back something that will initiate us into the Brotherhood of Steel.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:29:20am

re: #18 steve_davis

Fallout references always get updings.

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steve_davis  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:29:38am

re: #6 lawhawk

Trump will emerge from this “intact” but many Americans will lose their homes/businesses because they don’t have an inheritance to rely on as Trump did originally. But for all of Trump’s touts about the economy, that’s the one thing keeping him afloat even among his bigot brigade base. If the economy implodes, they’ll desert him too - or else blame the downturn on Democrats and spin conspiracies to prove that too.

the ironic thing is that i may actually start to do better financially, as recessions normally drive waves of people into getting new degrees in stuff. And crazily enough, my lack of a doctorate means I don’t have any illusions about what I’m worth to someone wanting an English instructor.

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Kragar  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:29:57am
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:30:37am

re: #11 Sufficient unto the day…

So, for those of us with basic 401ks and HSAs, where should we put the money, and for how long?

Hallowed are the Ori. /

Seriously though, if you’re close to retirement, you should have already shifted assets into more stable securities and become less risky in your portfolio. If you’ve got a lot of time before retirement, make sure that you’re investing periodically via dollar cost averaging so that you can benefit from the dips and balance out the peaks… If you’re in a 401(k) and contributing 5% (and maxing out your corporate match), continue to do so. If you think that’s risky, drop the percentage a bit, but make sure to max out the corporate match no matter what.

People should periodically check their portfolio and make sure that they’re not overweighted in one particular security or fund - making them susceptible to big gains/losses and change the weighting of their portfolio.

Another thing you could do if you’re concerned about a downturn is to park more of your assets in bond funds and cash funds, but also know that it means you don’t see the gains you might otherwise have if you’re buying into a weak market. Only you can judge your risk aversion.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:33:32am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

‘Libertarian’ sounds so much better than ‘anarchist’.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:34:04am

re: #23 Romantic Heretic

‘Libertarian’ sounds so much better than ‘anarchist’.

It sounds better than ‘Fuck you, I got mine.’

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:34:17am
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DodgerFan1988  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:34:51am

NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch being skeptical about EJ Bradford’s innocence. Go to hell Dana!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:34:51am

re: #21 Kragar

Jerry Seinfeld to George Constanza:
“You’re not artistic, and you have no integrity!”

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:35:03am

re: #17 Hecuba’s daughter

My brother already claims that the 2008 downturn was due to the Democrats taking control of Congress. It is natural that he is now spouting that recent market problems before the election were due to the anticipated change in control in the House. Except for the Koch Bros and their ilk, all who support Donald are totally deluded and have lost the ability to think critically on their own. They dismiss news sources that don’t conform to their preconceived notions.

I had a friend who tried that back in early 2000. And then Bush won and the GOP controlled the Legislative and Executive, and the stock market still sucked. If you go into this, genxfinance.com, there’s a chart showing that timeframe. He finally had to admit it had nothing to do with the president.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:36:37am

re: #25 Single-handed sailor

Kudlow was busy claiming that we weren’t in a recession, let alone worst since Great Depression while we were 2 quarters in to it.

So yeah, if he’s saying to keep buying as though everything is great, it’s a good sign to look elsewhere. He can’t be trusted.

It’s times like this when you’d want someone trustworthy who knows something about the markets and economics in these key positions, but Trump has no one. They’re all compromised cronies.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:36:49am

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch being skeptical about EJ Bradford’s innocence. Go to hell Dana!

“Blacks have this ability, after death, to move bullet wounds on their bodies to more incriminating positions.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:37:22am

re: #11 Sufficient unto the day…

So, for those of us with basic 401ks and HSAs, where should we put the money, and for how long?

Back. I can’t do better than Lawhawk does in his response. Beyond that, make sure Trump and his gang are gone after 2020. He does not understand economics at all and has surrounded himself with crackpots.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:38:24am

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

Hey Dana - the evidence is slow to emerge because they cops realize they fucked up and there’s no way to spin it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:40:16am

re: #22 lawhawk

Hallowed are the Ori. /

Seriously though, if you’re close to retirement, you should have already shifted assets into more stable securities and become less risky in your portfolio. ….. If you’re in a 401(k) and contributing 5% (and maxing out your corporate match), continue to do so. If you think that’s risky, drop the percentage a bit, but make sure to max out the corporate match no matter what…..

Another thing you could do if you’re concerned about a downturn is to park more of your assets in bond funds and cash funds, but also know that it means you don’t see the gains you might otherwise have if you’re buying into a weak market. Only you can judge your risk aversion.

Two issues with this:
1. At one time, the belief was that at retirement, one should avoid risk and look at stable funds. On the other hand, if you have longevity in your family history, you really have to look at a longer period. If you might be living to your nineties, and not your seventies, you need to consider riskier assets to protect against risk of inflation (I know, it’s been very modest now — but that was not so true in the 1970’s and 1980’s).
2 The problem with bond funds that many overlook is that if interest rates start moving up, the value of the bond fund will start dropping and you may discover that you have lost a significant portion of your assets. Cash and shorter term bonds can alleviate that risk.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:40:28am

Thinking of this video now.

The New Face of the NRA

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:41:16am

re: #28 Belafon

I had a friend who tried that back in early 2000. And then Bush won and the GOP controlled the Legislative and Executive, and the stock market still sucked. If you go into this, genxfinance.com, there’s a chart showing that timeframe. He finally had to admit it had nothing to do with the president.

I’ve come to the conclusion that while there isn’t much a president can do to make the economy better, there’s plenty they can do to make it worse. Best case scenario is that the government establishes decent guardrails to prevent bubbles and/or craters.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:42:25am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:43:23am

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

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NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch being skeptical about EJ Bradford’s innocence. Go to hell Dana!

You’re a disgrace Dana.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:44:43am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

You’re a disgrace Dana.

Well, you can’t expect her to actually face the consequences of a policy (open carry) that she so passionately advocates

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Kragar  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:44:48am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:45:31am

re: #21 Kragar

Corsi insists to TPM that this isn’t an elaborate attempt to fish a pardon from Trump: “I think I’m doing this because of my integrity”

Birther McSwiftboats’ integrity. OK….

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:46:14am

re: #38 KGxvi

Well, you can’t expect her to actually face the consequences of a policy (open carry) that she so passionately advocates

I’d like her to be reborn as a mid 1920’s black man.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:49:34am

re: #33 Hecuba’s daughter

Two issues with this:
1. At one time, the belief was that at retirement, one should avoid risk and look at stable funds. On the other hand, if you have longevity in your family history, you really have to look at a longer period. If you might be living to your nineties, and not your seventies, you need to consider riskier assets to protect against risk of inflation (I know, it’s been very modest now — but that was not so true in the 1970’s and 1980’s).
2 The problem with bond funds that many overlook is that if interest rates start moving up, the value of the bond fund will start dropping and you may discover that you have lost a significant portion of your assets. Cash and shorter term bonds can alleviate that risk.

I don’t disagree with either. Risk is a relative term, and shifting to less risky assets is relative as is knowing the time frame for how much you need and for how long.

Bonds are often viewed as a safer haven, but there’s risk to everything.

Cash and shorter term bonds can alleviate some of the risk (and there are bond funds with those features as well).

Some 401ks and mutual fund companies have retirement offerings with year outcomes - say you’re trying to retire in 2040, so you’d pick a fund with a 2040 outcome, so as you approach that date, they move the fund towards a more conservative approach (so you don’t have to do this yourself).

My comment above also doesn’t take into account whether you’ve got available cash for emergencies, debt owed, etc. all of which can and should play role in where/how you place your money as it may make more sense to pay down debt (especially if it’s high interest debt). Again - you have to know your own financial situation.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:50:50am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

I’d like her to be reborn as a mid 1920’s black man.

1910s - and in Tulsa.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:50:55am

re: #39 Kragar

I’ve been thinking lately, focusing solely on the foreign emoluments clause, we should be looking at Article II, Section 7:

The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be encreased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Any sort of tax deal that the Trump Organization gets couple fall under that.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:51:38am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:52:10am

re: #43 lawhawk

1910s - and in Tulsa.

A black WWI veteran in Tulsa business owner of which I’m sure there were several before that race riot.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:52:51am

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

The axolotl’s remarkable power of regeneration means that they can regrow the same limb 100 times, with no sign of scarring or damage.

I still remember Mad Magazine: ‘There are [some number that kept growing with time] ways to pronounce “axolotl”—all of them incorrect.’

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:55:43am
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William Lewis  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:57:18am

re: #46 HappyWarrior

A black WWI veteran in Tulsa business owner of which I’m sure there were several before that race riot.

Don’t have to go back that far. Lynching of black WWII vets caused Truman to integrate the armed forces.

No, it simply boils down to the fact that minorities don’t really have 2nd amendment rights. To paraphrase The Clash “You have the right to own guns - as long as you’re not dumb enough to actually try it! Know your rights, these are your rights.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 11:59:01am

re: #48 DodgerFan1988

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That’s inexcusable for UNC as diverse as it and North Carolina are.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:00:05pm

re: #49 William Lewis

Don’t have to go back that far. Lynching of black WWII vets caused Truman to integrate the armed forces.

No, it simply boils down to the fact that minorities don’t really have 2nd amendment rights. To paraphrase The Clash “You have the right to own guns - as long as you’re not dumb enough to actually try it! Know your rights, these are your rights.”

No, I know, I was just expanding on my wish Dana Gunhoard be reborn a black man and LH adding born in Tulsa in that era.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:05:14pm

re: #45 lawhawk

This is what happens in a nation that has a crippled Government.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:11:48pm
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:12:45pm

re: #48 DodgerFan1988

My argument over and over.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:14:58pm

re: #54 Belafon

My argument over and over.

I mean if we really were the CSA and white supremacist party. We’d be opposing removing statues but these people don’t actually believe that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:16:09pm

re: #53 lawhawk

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maybe the moron-in-chief can talk to the cops about this on Friday:

President Donald Trump returns to KC Friday for national law enforcement conference

Read more here: kansascity.com

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Jay C  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:16:09pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

The axolotl’s remarkable power of regeneration means that they can regrow the same limb 100 times, with no sign of scarring or damage

1. I guess that’s why the little guy looks like he’s smiling.

2. Though presumably, this excludes the head….

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:17:31pm

I’m going to have to remember this one…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:18:54pm

re: #58 lawhawk

I’m going to have to remember this one…

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Her feist day will be the day Trump leaves. Just had to add some more Catholic stuff to it. The

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:26:07pm

re: #53 lawhawk

But…but…Thin Blue Line! All Lives Matter!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:28:13pm

good doggo!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:29:09pm
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uncah91  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:29:26pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

Kevin Drum explained this the other day fairly well.

Basically when the yield curves invert, it means that investors expect interest rates to fall soon, so they want to lock in the higher rates for longer.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:30:51pm

Fuck this fucking guy.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:31:41pm

Gee, I wonder who was behind this:

Emails from top officials at the National Republican Congressional Committee were hacked during the 2018 midterm elections, Republican sources tell CNN, exposing the GOP’s House campaign arm to an intrusion by an “unknown entity.”

The hack, which was first reported by Politico, was discovered by a vendor in April after emails from four senior committee aides had been surveilled for months, a Republican official with knowledge of the intrusion tells CNN.

A source familiar with the investigation into the hack told CNN that the attackers would have been able to see all the emails being sent and received by the NRCC aides whose accounts were breached.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:33:06pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

Fuck this fucking guy.

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You know, I’m guessing as a United States Senator, he could probably attend that hearing if he really wanted to. I’m guessing his colleagues wouldn’t object… and if the White House does, well, there’s this thing called the motherfucking subpoena power.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:36:18pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really understand what’s happening here except there’s now a disincentive to invest in longer longer term treasury notes and the same thing happened a year before the financial crisis hit. So this could be a harbinger of bad things to come.

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The world is dumping Treasury securities just as I predicted.

Now watch what happens if Trump tries to default on the debt.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:36:33pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

Fuck this fucking guy.

Who is this? Lindsay?

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:37:05pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

He could also take it up with McConnell who didn’t trust his fellow Kentucky Senator to sit on the intel committee.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:38:31pm

re: #63 uncah91

Kevin Drum explained this the other day fairly well.

Basically when the yield curves invert, it means that investors expect interest rates to fall soon, so they want to lock in the higher rates for longer.

Years ago, my husband and I were sold a bond with 8% interest as interest rates were dropping. It seemed like a great investment; unfortunately as it turned out, the bond had a provision that allowed the issuer to call it back early. So, instead of 10 years of 8% return, we had 18 months of that return.

What investors expect and what happens can diverge dramatically.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:41:02pm

re: #67 Joe Bacon 🌹

The world is dumping Treasury securities just as I predicted.

Now watch what happens if Trump tries to default on the debt.

So Treasuries should have to start paying higher interest — and McConnell will use this as an excuse to launch an all out attack on our benefit programs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:41:51pm
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:42:09pm

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

Same as always. GOP will demand Democrats slice and dice the safety net so millionaires can hold on to their tax cuts and the debt explodes more.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:44:01pm

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

So Treasuries should have to start paying higher interest — and McConnell will use this as an excuse to launch an all out attack on our benefit programs.

He has around a month, after that he can whine while House Democrats raise taxes on the rich to pay for things.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:46:03pm

re: #26 DodgerFan1988

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NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch being skeptical about EJ Bradford’s innocence. Go to hell Dana!

She loves seeing people shot.

Lets her utter the blood for the tree of liberty bullshit.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:46:42pm

re: #74 Belafon

He has around a month, after that he can whine while House Democrats raise taxes on the rich to pay for things.

Going to be hard to do with the Senate in Republican hands and still needing Trump’s signature.

More likely, little, if anything is going to get accomplished in the next two years. The House will follow up on Mueller’s investigation. And there will be some basic funding bills, but I don’t think anything of consequence passes both houses and gets Trump’s signature.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:51:08pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:52:13pm

re: #76 KGxvi

Going to be hard to do with the Senate in Republican hands and still needing Trump’s signature.

More likely, little, if anything is going to get accomplished in the next two years. The House will follow up on Mueller’s investigation. And there will be some basic funding bills, but I don’t think anything of consequence passes both houses and gets Trump’s signature.

I see a couple more LONG Government shutdowns in the next 2 years as McConnell and Shithead try to force deep Social Security and Medicare cuts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:52:35pm
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:53:58pm

re: #76 KGxvi

Going to be hard to do with the Senate in Republican hands and still needing Trump’s signature.

More likely, little, if anything is going to get accomplished in the next two years. The House will follow up on Mueller’s investigation. And there will be some basic funding bills, but I don’t think anything of consequence passes both houses and gets Trump’s signature.

Agree. I was trying to make the point that he can whine but now he has to deal with a group less likely to pass this than the one before.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:54:04pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:54:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:54:25pm
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:54:34pm

re: #78 Joe Bacon 🌹

I see a couple more LONG Government shutdowns in the next 2 years as McConnell and Shithead try to force deep Social Security and Medicare cuts.

And Trump whining about why he looks bad afterwards.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:54:53pm

re: #81 Single-handed sailor

“Ten feet taller!”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:55:34pm

re: #84 Belafon

And Trump whining about why he looks bad afterwards.

Nope.

He won’t look bad.

Fox News will continue to beat the Lock Her Up drum and blame Hillary.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:56:40pm

re: #81 Single-handed sailor

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It’s perfectly normal for the market to shit the bed after the President boasts about his love of tariffs.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2018 • 12:58:24pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

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That was almost too brutal to watch

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plansbandc  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:01:55pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

Solid save!

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wrenchwench  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:02:00pm

re: #88 Eventual Carrion

That was almost too brutal to watch

I will never flip off anyone again!

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:03:47pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:04:50pm

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

So Treasuries should have to start paying higher interest — and McConnell will use this as an excuse to launch an all out attack on our benefit programs.

DOA now that there will be a Democratic House.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:06:56pm

re: #78 Joe Bacon 🌹

I see a couple more LONG Government shutdowns in the next 2 years as McConnell and Shithead try to force deep Social Security and Medicare cuts.

I don’t. If they didn’t try when they had complete control of the federal government, it makes absolutely no sense to try now when it will just make the Democrats look like heroes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:07:08pm

re: #92 Big Beautiful Door

DOA now that there will be a Democratic House.

Which will give Slimy McConnell the rationale for multiple long Government shutdowns over the next two years.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:07:21pm

About that Epstein lawsuit:

A rich and politically connected money manager accused of sexually abusing dozens of underage girls reached a last-minute settlement Tuesday in a lawsuit, denying his alleged victims — for now, at least — the chance to testify against him.

The case involved Jeffrey Epstein, a 65-year-old Florida financier who secretly negotiated a plea bargain a decade ago that enabled him to escape a possible life sentence on federal sex-trafficking charges. That deal has given rise to suspicions he used his influence to get prosecutors to go easy on him.

The lawsuit that was settled Tuesday did not touch directly on Epstein’s alleged predilection for sex with underage girls. It was a defamation suit brought by a lawyer, Bradley Edwards, who said Epstein tried to smear him.

Edwards, who represents some of Epstein’s alleged victims, had planned to put some of them on the stand if the lawsuit had gone to trial.

The non-prosecution deal protecting Epstein was negotiated by federal prosecutors in South Florida and approved by then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta, who is now President Donald Trump’s labor secretary. Epstein could have faced a possible life sentence if federal prosecutors had pursued a draft 57-page indictment that was never filed.

Instead, under the deal, Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to two sex-related state charges, served 13 months in jail, paid financial settlements to many of the accusers and registered as a sex offender.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:08:11pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which will give Slimy McConnell the rationale for multiple long Government shutdowns over the next two years.

“Oh, no, the Democrats won’t let us cut your Medicare benefits.”

Yeah, that’ll play well.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:08:40pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

Ah…. Soho….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:08:41pm

re: #93 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t. If they didn’t try when they had complete control of the federal government, it makes absolutely no sense to try now when it will just make the Democrats look like heros.

Remember what happened with the last shutdown? Looked like the Democrats had a major advantage then it all slipped away when the Marketplace snafu.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:10:45pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which will give Slimy McConnell the rationale for multiple long Government shutdowns over the next two years.

Possible. But they do have to defend 22 seats in the senate… including some states that look a lot more purple/blue than they did 2 years ago. I expect we will see some sort of Gang of 8 type bipartisan stuff to work out deals

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:11:34pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which will give Slimy McConnell the rationale for multiple long Government shutdowns over the next two years.

You haven’t been paying attention. McConnell has been trying to avoid shutdowns because they make the party that causes them look bad, especially when its for an incredibly unpopular cause. No-one except billionaires wants Social Security and Medicare cuts, not even GOP voters. McConnell isn’t an idiot.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:11:35pm

Anyone getting seismic readings from Washington DC?

Supposedly there are going to be Mueller documents released outlining the amount of cooperation of Flynn and Cohen and what that means to their sentencing coming sometime today.

I was just wondering if the readings around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW are showing any movements in the area from the rumbling within?

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:12:48pm

re: #101 ObserverArt

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wrenchwench  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:15:53pm

re: #91 gocart mozart

[@AdamSerwer]

That’s just a picture, right? Not something that was actually published?

If it were a book (illustrated) I would go up to that little thingy in the corner and take a trip in the Amazon….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:16:38pm

Anticipation…

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:18:46pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:23:19pm

Poor, lonely Trumpanzees need a safe space.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:25:12pm

re: #106 Big Beautiful Door

I thought they were against frivolous lawsuits?

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uncah91  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:25:38pm

re: #67 Joe Bacon 🌹

The world is dumping Treasury securities just as I predicted.

Now watch what happens if Trump tries to default on the debt.

While this might happen at some point, the current Treasury yields show that the world is making bets that US Treasury securities will be the best place to be over the next 5 years. People aren’t dumping US bonds, they are demanding them in greater numbers. That’s why the price is rising (or, put the other way, the interest rate is falling).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:26:31pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:28:01pm

re: #106 Big Beautiful Door

Poor, lonely Trumpanzees need a safe space.

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But they will sue other platforms if they won’t let conserva-ranting-dipshits on or remove them from participation in the forum. Funny that.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:29:11pm

re: #99 KGxvi

Possible. But they do have to defend 22 seats in the senate… including some states that look a lot more purple/blue than they did 2 years ago. I expect we will see some sort of Gang of 8 type bipartisan stuff to work out deals

That would be my guess. Vulnerable Senate Republicans being put together with conservative Dems to compromise a “bipartisan committee” which will magically come to the conclusion that the only way to deal with the federal deficit and debt is to cut into “entitlements.”

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:30:09pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

That would be my guess. Vulnerable Senate Republicans being put together with conservative Dems to compromise a “bipartisan committee” which will magically come to the conclusion that the only way to deal with the federal deficit and debt is to cut into “entitlements.”

Which still won’t get past the House.

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uncah91  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:31:54pm

re: #70 Hecuba’s daughter

Years ago, my husband and I were sold a bond with 8% interest as interest rates were dropping. It seemed like a great investment; unfortunately as it turned out, the bond had a provision that allowed the issuer to call it back early. So, instead of 10 years of 8% return, we had 18 months of that return.

What investors expect and what happens can diverge dramatically.

Well that sucks.

There aren’t any T-Bills that work that way (AFAIK), which is why the rate on T-Bill yields is an indicator of what the market thinks is likely to happen over a given time frame. Roughly, when you see yields go down, it means that the market thinks that bonds will be safer than other assets (vs. inflation) in that time frame, or they think general inflation risk is lower than it was before.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:33:44pm
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:38:13pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

That seems like a harbinger of bad jobu for Trumpworld. He knows he’s screwed, and is now hoping for a pardon.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:39:28pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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Truly the moves a completely innocent man makes.

Why, not too long ago I saw Stoner say he had nothing to do with any of the emails, Assange and Russia connections to Trump.

He must be refusing to cooperate and testify as a way to show how strong he is and to prove to everyone he is not going to take this shit!

You go Stone!

You go to hell.

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fern01  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:40:06pm

re: #33 Hecuba’s daughter

Two issues with this:
1. At one time, the belief was that at retirement, one should avoid risk and look at stable funds. On the other hand, if you have longevity in your family history, you really have to look at a longer period. If you might be living to your nineties, and not your seventies, you need to consider riskier assets to protect against risk of inflation (I know, it’s been very modest now — but that was not so true in the 1970’s and 1980’s).
2 The problem with bond funds that many overlook is that if interest rates start moving up, the value of the bond fund will start dropping and you may discover that you have lost a significant portion of your assets. Cash and shorter term bonds can alleviate that risk.

I’m currently retired and have most of my investments in a balanced fund(shares, property, bonds & some cash) - same as 2008 (when I wasn’t retired). I lost about 20% in 2008/09 and had it back and more by 2012.

Many of my friends swapped to “safer” investments in 2009 & NEVER recovered their losses. Timing is everything & most rarely manage to time things well. I trust the people who manage my money - and who told me the markets probably had 2 good years under trump - and that seems to be playing out well.

I’m not looking forward to the next 2 years of the markets - but if it gets rid of trump - I’ll manage somehow.

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:41:39pm

On a more important note

Everyone knows what you mean when you say turn the heat down or turn the heat up

No one knows when you say turn the a/c down or turn the a/c up
You have to have that conversation

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:42:28pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

Truly the moves a completely innocent man makes.

Why, not too long ago I saw Stoner say he had nothing to do with any of the emails, Assange and Russia connections to Trump.

He must be refusing to cooperate and testify as a way to show how strong he is and to prove to everyone he is not going to take this shit!

You go Stone!

You go to hell.

Mueller’s probably gamed out this scenario and not only has federal charges waiting, but the similar charges available to file in NY state court.

Mueller knows how to deal with persons of interest in this position. If they think they can walk and claim 5A to avoid prosecution, they’ll find another thing coming their way. Mueller can even sweet talk Stone into giving up everything on everyone else - like Corsi. There are so many ways this can play out, and few favor Stone.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:42:29pm

re: #115 lawhawk

That seems like a harbinger of bad jobu for Trumpworld. He knows he’s screwed, and is now hoping for a pardon.

Which would be fantastic, because a Pardon would kill Stones ability to take the Fifth.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:48:21pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

That would be my guess. Vulnerable Senate Republicans being put together with conservative Dems to compromise a “bipartisan committee” which will magically come to the conclusion that the only way to deal with the federal deficit and debt is to cut into “entitlements.”

The political landscape has changed a lot since Obama tried to negotiate a “grand bargain.” Now I’m confident no Democratic Senator would be willing to move to Trump’s right and support cuts to ss and medicare, especially not if it doesn’t include a repeal of Trump’s tax cuts, something McConnell would never agree to.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:51:53pm

Whut?

Nicole is saying it is now coming out Manafort worked with Ecuador to get them to release Assange to the U.S.

There is no evidence Manafort worked with Trump on this…or Mueller???

Not sure when this happened, but it shows Manafort is someone you don’t want to be around as he will sell you out to save your butt.

Unless it costs him, which must be why he isn’t turning on Trump. That would be life threatening it appears.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:56:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:57:56pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:59:31pm

By the way, I guess Roger Stone took to Trump’s tweets about how strong a character he was for not cooperating with Mueller.

I bet Jerome Corsi knew this was going to happen just the way it all is. He can put two and two together, especially when he has time to ponder on a plane.

Message received. But I do have to wonder who the “heavy” is that makes Trump’s messages stick with someone like Stone? I know they have known each other for a long time, but I get the vibe someone is the enforcer that makes all the Trump puppets dance the way they want them to dance.

Oh wait…I think we know.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 1:59:58pm

re: #112 Belafon

Which still won’t get past the House.

It won’t be about actually passing it so much as saving the asses of the few vulnerable Senate Republicans like Collins. You know, “Oh, we could fix this problem if only both sides would work together like we did!”

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:01:01pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What’s he going to do? What he said he would once he got a briefing: Push through remaining legislation before the end of the month.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:01:51pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Saudi Arabia is not a monolith, there are power struggles going on within it and we are taking sides with MBS, something that could really come to bite us in butt over the long run.

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fern01  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:04:42pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

It won’t be about actually passing it so much as saving the asses of the few vulnerable Senate Republicans like Collins. You know, “Oh, we could fix this problem if only both sides would work together like we did!”

Nothing is going to save Collins - there is a large starter fund against her related to the Kavanaugh vote. She may retire.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:05:22pm

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Saudi Arabia is not a monolith, there are power struggles going on within it and we are taking sides with MBS, something that could really come to bite us in butt over the long run.

Republicans can never figure out that “He’s a bastard, but he’s our bastard” only works for so long.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:07:03pm

re: #21 Kragar

Integrity must have a different definition in Corsi’s dictionary.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:08:07pm

After reading the Stone lawyer’s letter to Senator Feinstein I see they are using part of their reasons for not cooperating they didn’t like the way Stone’s testimony before the Congress Intelligence Committee was done in private and then parts of it were leaked.

How convenient!

Thank you Republicans on the committee who made much of their hearings private. Why It is almost like they knew this could be used.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:09:28pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Has Graham ever done anything to oppose Trump in any way? I can’t think of any time when he actually took a stand by voting against Trump. I don’t expect that to happen now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:09:37pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:11:09pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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Where was it…oh, right here:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:13:12pm

re: #130 Targetpractice

Republicans can never figure out that “He’s a bastard, but he’s our bastard” only works for so long.

It stops working when your bastard turns out to be more of a motherfucker than a bastard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:15:04pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:15:42pm

re: #136 Blind Frog Belly White

It stops working when your bastard turns out to be more of a motherfucker than a bastard.

and when he winds up on the losing side in a power struggle

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:20:23pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

It won’t be about actually passing it so much as saving the asses of the few vulnerable Senate Republicans like Collins. You know, “Oh, we could fix this problem if only both sides would work together like we did!”

Collins is done. The only question for her is if she’s delusional enough to run again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:20:33pm

*snerk*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:22:27pm

somebody should tell her that most welfare recipients are white people

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:23:29pm

re: #131 Patricia Kayden

Integrity must have a different definition in Corsi’s dictionary.

Everything has a different definition in Corsi’s dictionary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:24:15pm

re: #142 Eclectic Cyborg

Everything has a different definition in Corsi’s dictionary.

much the same dictionary as trump’s

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:25:20pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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somebody should tell her that most welfare recipients are white people

I’m sure she’d feel exactly the same if she had to go on welfare.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:26:07pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Suozzi had better lose, he’s a member of the “Problem Solvers Causers” group.

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gwangung  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:31:22pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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somebody should tell her that most welfare recipients are white people

And that they almost always DO feel shame.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:31:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:34:06pm
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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:37:18pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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somebody should tell her that most welfare recipients are white people

somebody should ask her to explain specifically and in detail exactly what they should feel “shame and stigma” about.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:37:50pm
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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:43:22pm

this is fun

“President Trump is spreading a false claim from supporters that people who are in the United States illegally receive more in federal assistance than the average American gets in Social Security benefits,” the AP reports.

“Everything about the tweet he passed on to his 56 million listed Twitter followers Tuesday is wrong.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:47:03pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:51:19pm

re: #105 DodgerFan1988

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:54:51pm

McConnell plays the long game. When he is finished packing the lower courts with Federalist Society racist hacks, minorities will be purged nationwide from voting registers a la Georgia, districts will be gerrymandered beyond belief, and the Supreme Court which gutted the VRA will support these actions. Look at Wisconsin: Dems won all statewide offices, they received over 50% of the vote for legislative races, but courtesy of gerrymandering, the GOP has 64% of the seats in the legislature and the Dems only 36%. Every time I become optimistic, the GOP shows how they play their game to destroy democracy, and so far they aren’t yet losing. The GOP in Wisconsin is going to guarantee that they run everything, even though they are a minority.

GOP delenda est.

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Jay C  Dec 4, 2018 • 2:56:34pm

re: #130 Targetpractice

Republicans can never figure out that “He’s a bastard, but he’s our bastard” only works for so long.

I think the original form of the quote was “SOB”, and was usually attributed to Franklin Roosevelt - in reference to Anastasio Somoza, Sr.:
dictator President of Nicaragua; and long-time American stooge ally.

The difference nowadays is that Prince MBS isn’t running a backwater “banana republic”, but a seriously wealthy petrostate in the middle of the volatile and vitally important Middle East. And has resources to buy his way into political influence in this country that Somoza could never dream of.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:01:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:01:49pm
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Jay C  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:05:16pm

re: #156 The Vicious Babushka

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The olive oil is a nice touch (a reminder that some of the properly blessed version featured in the Original Hanukkah): but what do you use for a wick?

My own “old family menorah” - stuck somewhere in storage since my mother passed in 1999 - had nine little silver cups with holed covers, obviously for a wick. The olive oil I would use (and is EVOO better? Israeli oil?), but I can’t figure out what to use as a wick. Help me, Vicious Babushka, you’re my only hope!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:08:37pm

re: #159 Jay C

The olive oil is a nice touch (a reminder that some of the properly blessed version featured in the Original Hanukkah): but what do you use for a wick?

My own “old family menorah” - stuck somewhere in storage since my mother passed in 1999 - had nine little silver cups with holed covers, obviously for a wick. The olive oil I would use (and is EVOO better? Israeli oil?), but I can’t figure out what to use as a wick. Help me, Vicious Babushka, you’re my only hope!!

You can take a cotton ball and roll it into a wick.

I used to do that but now you can buy a set of oil cups at your local Judaica store.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:10:29pm

AYFKMWTS?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:15:58pm
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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:16:43pm

re: #153 Patricia Kayden

Not debating stupid white people on twitter about whether the KKK was started by Democrats or Republicans.

It was started by racist white people, just like the ones on here acting like we give feather what political party white folks who murder us belong to
.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:16:55pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

AYFKMWTS?

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I knew it. I commented a bit earlier Trump and his handlers would be trying to use the way he acts at the Bush services and funeral to look presidential and he would need the media to make that point.

They can’t even surprise us anymore. This all sucks. What a clown show.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:18:38pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you’re wondering how climate change will play out over the next few decades, here you go. $40 million homes in a gated community behind a six-foot fire-retardant wall, with private fire-fighting

Now tell me about the Neighborhood Watch.

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:20:22pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

AYFKMWTS?

Analysis: Temporary or not, from foreign trips to funeral preparation, the most unconventional of commanders-in-chief is suddenly hitting some standard presidential notes.

even if you thought the guy didnt shit the bed for “one day in a row”, you think that somehow instantly makes him ‘presidential’?

where the fuck are your standards?

what it makes is a guy who didnt shit the bed one day in a row

and, in fact, he did - cf: gd-frank’s comment

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:20:36pm

re: #154 Hecuba’s daughter

Then this is not a democracy. Why Democrats aren’t more vocal and passionate about condemning Republicans when they engage in anti-democratic tactics like these is beyond me.

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:21:54pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

No, no, it’s very fair.

Republicans get to run the election boards in years when there *are* elections, and Democrats get to run them in years when there *aren’t* elections.

Equal time!

i got the sled going down the hill
my brother had it going up the hill

equal time!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:22:28pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

The media falls over itself to praise Trump when he has momentary lapses of presidential behavior. It’s so pathetic. No way they would have treated President Hillary Clinton in a similar manner.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:22:40pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:24:23pm
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dangerman  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:24:33pm

re: #169 Patricia Kayden

The media falls over itself to praise Trump when he has momentary lapses of presidential behavior. It’s so pathetic. No way they would have treated President Hillary Clinton in a similar manner.

if i may:

The media falls over itself to praise Trump when he has momentary lapses of HIS NORMALLY NON presidential behavior so in contrast he somehow looks ‘presidental’ for a moment

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:24:53pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Daniel Jacobson
@Dan_F_Jacobson
The NC GOP is trying to rush through a law that would REQUIRE every county elections board in NC to be chaired by a Republican in election years. These guys just can’t stop trying to rig elections.

7,669
10:25 AM - Dec 4, 2018

I cannot express how infuriated I am about the GOP. This is not Trump’s doing — this is the standard GOP party. They are trying to turn every state they can into a single party dictatorship, ignoring the will of the voters.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:26:18pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

Stone is responsible for like 70% of the gossip and innuendo about him in the press.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:26:58pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:28:59pm

re: #174 KGxvi

Stone is responsible for like 70% of the gossip and innuendo about him in the press.

Could that also be: Stone is responsible for like 70% of the smoke and mirrors about him in the press?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:29:25pm

re: #170 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How? His claim doesn’t even make sense.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:31:54pm

re: #154 Hecuba’s daughter

It is now our job to play a longer game.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:34:14pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Could that also be: Stone is responsible for like 70% of the smoke and mirrors about him in the press?

six of one, half dozen of the other

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:34:20pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:35:19pm

These people are fucking hopeless

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:37:29pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

It won’t be about actually passing it so much as saving the asses of the few vulnerable Senate Republicans like Collins. You know, “Oh, we could fix this problem if only both sides would work together like we did!”

I instead see a great opportunity to attack her for wanting to cut ss and medicare; unpopular with even GOP voters.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:38:51pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

These people are fucking hopeless

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This is worse than the “I saw Jesus in my toast!” morons.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:40:01pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

These people are fucking hopeless

[Embedded content]

They have eyes only for Q.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:41:20pm

re: #106 Big Beautiful Door

they crave White Power relationships where leaving rational thought at the door is required.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:41:53pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

This is worse than the “I saw Jesus in my toast!” morons.

Yeah, because the worst you’ll get out of that type is a “personal interest” story on the evening news and maybe one of the Top 500 Weirdest Items On Ebay. QAnon types seem like the sort who might just kill people in the name of their deluded fantasy.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:43:03pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

why are they disrespecting the flag by showing it upside down!!1! burnt he witches@!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:46:28pm

good fucking grief…

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:48:36pm
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:50:00pm

re: #189 Patricia Kayden

He’s not an alleged Holocaust denier.

He is a Holocaust denier, on top of being a garbage fire with a beard.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:51:10pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:51:20pm

re: #190 lawhawk

He’s not an alleged Holocaust denier.

He is a Holocaust denier, on top of being a garbage fire with a beard.

I love you, lawhawk. Never change. +1 Internet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:51:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:53:53pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:54:10pm

re: #189 Patricia Kayden

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This may be another example of why The Notorious Chuck “C” Johnson has gone offline. He may have all kinds of people checking him out.

Chucky got a little too busy and full of himself. He was probably used too as enthusiastic as he was trying to be a big player.

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retired cynic  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:54:58pm

This would make a good screen saver! NASA models two black holes as they pull each other in.

apod.nasa.gov

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retired cynic  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:55:49pm

rats typo edited

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:56:04pm
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retired cynic  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:56:50pm

re: #198 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha gasp

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 3:59:07pm

re: #198 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Snowflakes. Those are private businesses. Let them make their private decisions in peace. By the way, does the Tweeter think it’s okay for private businesses to turn away gay couples like most Conservatives? They’re okay with some business practices that don’t impact them.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:03:26pm

re: #200 Patricia Kayden

Snowflakes. Those are private businesses. Let them make their private decisions in peace. By the way, does the Tweeter think it’s okay for private businesses to turn away gay couples like most Conservatives? They’re okay with some business practices that don’t impact them.

I can be somewhat sympathetic to the idea that social media are quasi-public squares. But, hate speech (like fighting words) is not protected speech. I think you can even argue, somewhat convincingly, that most conspiracy theories these fools spout are likely also not protected speech, particularly if it is accusing specific people of committing crimes with reckless disregard for the truth (which is defamation per se).

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:07:44pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:11:02pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:12:23pm

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:14:50pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:15:52pm

re: #198 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The problem isn’t that these snowflakes are being silenced — the real problem is that they just won’t shut up. All they do is spread lies and insults about anyone who disagrees with their absurd conspiracies.

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KGxvi  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:22:10pm

re: #204 Patricia Kayden

Miller’s right… Trump doesn’t negotiate with them, he capitulates to them

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:22:16pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:26:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:28:27pm
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:30:03pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:31:22pm

Bastard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:31:46pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:32:22pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s not wrong.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:33:20pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:34:41pm

re: #203 gocart mozart

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Douchepopehat.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:36:00pm

re: #215 Single-handed sailor

Ms. Loesch, this is not Dungeons and Dragons. Those are not the Glasses of Smarts that convey to the wearer +5 Intellect. Now stop pretending to be a grown-up and accept your ass-whupping like a big girl.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:36:59pm

re: #215 Single-handed sailor

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She looks like she has had a mild stoke or a bad Botox stick.

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BigPapa  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:37:01pm

Coyotes are serious shit

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:39:12pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I wish Michelle would run!

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retired cynic  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:40:07pm

re: #219 BigPapa

OMG! That looks exactly like a little dog we had for many years (sans jacket) named Brownie. She was a rescue, and as she got older she toddled around the farm like a pregnant turtle. At the end of her days, she just slept in the kitchen, snuggled up next to the chimney flue. Brings back memories. So many years, so many dogs!

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:42:30pm

re: #215 Single-handed sailor

I would irresponsible not to point out that thousands of children and adolescents are killed or injured due to accidents or suicides every year.

39 a day are injured. Every fucking day. That’s … 14,235 injured every year.
9 a day die from firearms use (suicide/accident/murder/etc.). That’s another 3,285 on the butchers’ bill the GOP/NRA has decided should be acceptable blood feeding the tree of liberty.

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BigPapa  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:42:31pm

re: #221 retired cynic

There is nothing wrong with sleeping in the Kitch snuggled up to the next to the chimney flue. As long as scritches and snuggles are still accepted, no problem at all.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:47:16pm

re: #220 Big Beautiful Door

I wish Michelle would run!

No. I wouldn’t wish that on her at all. Not after what President Obama went through. I can’t imagine what they’d do to a Black woman.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:47:17pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:47:40pm

OH HELL NO

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:49:17pm

re: #189 Patricia Kayden

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I wondered about Chuck’s solicitation of tech help for a project in remote Washington State a couple years ago. Quincy makes sense for a bitcoin mining business, very cheap electricity.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:50:52pm
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retired cynic  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:51:11pm

re: #223 BigPapa

There is nothing wrong with sleeping in the Kitch snuggled up to the next to the chimney flue. As long as scritches and snuggles are still accepted, no problem at all.

I wasn’t complaining! Just stating a fact. [grin]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:51:23pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:51:26pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Newsweek

@Newsweek
Michelle Obama: “I have been at every powerful table you can think of…They are not that smart” bit.ly

1,849
5:30 PM - Dec 4, 2018

Our standard gag line at work regarding upper management “They are smart people — they know what they are doing” — which we repeated as it became increasingly clear that no — they didn’t have a clue — and eventually they were replaced by new management. They would certainly have scored high on IQ tests but they were clueless when our company went public on how to run a public organization.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:51:53pm

8-vehicle motorcade just to cross the street.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:52:31pm

re: #187 KGxvi

why are they disrespecting the flag by showing it upside down!!1! burnt he witches@!!

I thought ‘he witches’ were called ‘warlocks’?

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:54:16pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some folks are smart. Some are savvy. Some are intense. Some might have been good in a lower management role. But just because you’re CEO doesn’t make you smarter than everyone else in the room or the company, because they aren’t.

They just got lucky to get to that role. And we’ve all see situations where failure is promoted upwards to get rid of problems, rather than fire the person outright when they deserved to be gone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:57:32pm
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:57:42pm

re: #198 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:57:49pm

Since Dad’s still holding on (sister says, “He’s past his expiration date”), and my two brothers have to head back home, I’m heading to PA to see him.

While I’m gone, Dory is supposed to, as Mrs. FBW puts it, “have her lady parts operated on”, or as we say it, “Bitches get stitches.”

She’ll be really cute in an E-collar, but poor baby will find jumping onto the ottoman challenging.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 4, 2018 • 4:57:55pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:00:36pm

Butthurt li’l snowflake

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:01:25pm

O_o

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:01:34pm

re: #234 lawhawk

Some folks are smart. Some are savvy. Some are intense. Some might have been good in a lower management role. But just because you’re CEO doesn’t make you smarter than everyone else in the room or the company, because they aren’t.

They just got lucky to get to that role. And we’ve all see situations where failure is promoted upwards to get rid of problems, rather than fire the person outright when they deserved to be gone.

A saw something once that said that CEOs were not usually the straight-A students, or top-of-the-class sorts. It’s not that they’re dumb, because usually they aren’t. But the skillset needed to be a good CEO does not necessarily require you to be a genius.

OTOH, that skillset is not something I have, so more power to them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:03:34pm

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

A saw something once that said that CEOs were not usually the straight-A students, or top-of-the-class sorts. It’s not that they’re dumb, because usually they aren’t. But the skillset needed to be a good CEO does not necessarily require you to be a genius.

OTOH, that skillset is not something I have, so more power to them.

Maybe that was our problem — our CEO was the straight-A top of the class type of person.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:04:37pm

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

Dumbass doesn’t know how twitter works, how URLs work, or how anyone can buy a website for the right price.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:05:25pm

re: #243 lawhawk

Dumbass doesn’t know how twitter works, how URLs work, or how anyone can buy a website for the right price.

“It’s just a series of tubes, innit?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:06:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:09:24pm

oh…

MANDAN, N.D. (AP) — A man who police say was high on drugs when he stripped naked and climbed into the holy water font during Mass at a North Dakota church has pleaded not guilty to an indecent exposure charge.

Authorities say 21-year-old Zachary Burdick was asked to leave the Spirit of Life Catholic Church in Mandan on Oct. 9 because he was trying to bless congregants. He later returned, took off his clothes, climbed into the fountain then walked down the aisle performing a lewd act in front of the congregation that included preschool children.

KFYR-TV reports that Burdick pleaded not guilty Monday to felony indecent exposure and misdemeanor disorderly conduct. A trial date has not been set.

The felony charge against him carries a maximum punishment of five years in prison.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:09:44pm

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe that was our problem — our CEO was the straight-A top of the class type of person.

I’ve seen a number of different ones. The best was the late Bob Swanson, founder and CEO of Genentech. He was a sparkplug, that guy. He loved the science, even though he wasn’t a scientist, and he really energized the place. Plus he did a great job schmoozing the investors. He kept the place feeling like a small company till we were over 1000 employees! Other places lost that feeling before they got to 40.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:10:26pm

re: #243 lawhawk

Dumbass doesn’t know how twitter works, how URLs work, or how anyone can buy a website for the right price.

When I click on that link I get a McAfee warning that it’s “High Risk”

I thought it’s just some HTML plain text.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:10:35pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:11:53pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:13:53pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:13:59pm

Come on, where’s the Flynn filing already?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:15:27pm
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:15:39pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:16:05pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wouldn’t hire Rudy to head up a Taco stand.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:16:33pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:19:03pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #254 lawhawk

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:19:34pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:21:55pm

Dear Dog
I thought we had completed the “big cow’ news cycle.
Must be infrastructure week

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:21:57pm

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:22:48pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY

Iunno, Pie Queen. I’ve seen the rest of the wingnutosphere, and they definitely seem to outdo PETA in the stupid department.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:23:36pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY

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I guess they’ll be offended by this too but what a bunch of stupid bullshit.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:23:58pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

Wrong.

Rudy’s tweet showing that he’s a dumbass who doesn’t know how the Internet works was the dumbest tweet today.

This is a close second.

And this is how I’m feeling about both of them right now:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:24:47pm

re: #258 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Rudy’s login password remains Rudy911

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:25:16pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY

[Embedded content]

Take the horse by the tail and face the situation.

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William Lewis  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:26:48pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

Rudy’s login password remains Rudy911

Nah gotta have a verb in it too - Noun - verb - 911, after all.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:27:30pm

re: #266 William Lewis

Nah gotta have a verb in it too - Noun - verb - 911, after all.

Can’t fail.

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thecommodore  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:27:31pm

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

Come on, where’s the Flynn filing already?

Maybe Mueller is going to finally admit that there is no evidence of collusion and that the real crime here was the unmasking of Flynn by Susan Rice.

//////

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:30:24pm

re: #198 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is 2% of the world’s population acting out all Snowflakey because they feel their voice is not represented by AT LEAST 50% of the world’s social media.

The USA is 5% of the world’s population. The USA right wing is less than 1/2 this amount. We have here 2% of the world’s population that has divorced itself from the reality that the rest of the world inhabits and now they cry foul. Screw them with a barbed wire baseball bat.

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William Lewis  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:31:12pm

re: #267 Barefoot Grin

Can’t fail.

Muhahahaha!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:31:33pm

re: #266 William Lewis

Nah gotta have a verb in it too - Noun - verb - 911, after all.

True

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:31:42pm

wow, if true…

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jaunte  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:33:04pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

Anti-plantist tendencies.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:33:06pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

wow, if true…

Lou… What the hell are you smoking, dude? Get help.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:33:49pm

It took Rudy FOUR DAYS to notice

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:33:59pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

wow, if true…

[Embedded content]

Lou, what would you say if someone said Trey Gowdy was trying to kill HRC? You and your network of Trump humping hyenas would ridicule it. Mueller has every right to investigate Trump and you’re a racist old hack who is going down in history as a lackey to a fascist.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:34:36pm

re: #274 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Lou… What the hell are you smoking, dude? Get help.

Same shit Trump does, McDonalds flavored meth.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:35:31pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:35:41pm

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Same shit Trump does, McDonalds flavored meth.

He oughta be careful. Meth houses have a bad habit of burning down suddenly.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:36:16pm

The train from Kook-a-monga has gone supersonic.

Is Hillary Clinton The Whore of Babylon?

Today, SkyWatch TV posted a program in which End Times author and SkyWatch TV CEO Tom Horn suggested that Hillary Clinton is the “Whore of Babylon” who was conceived during a ritual carried out in 1946 by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

Horn claimed that stolen emails posted by Wikileaks revealed that Clinton had filled her 2016 presidential campaign with “occultists” who believe her to be the biblical Whore of Babylon who will usher in the Antichrist.

Citing a ritual that took place in 1946 called “The Babylon Working” in which Hubbard and others allegedly attempted to conceive a goddess through “ritual sex magic,” Horn claimed that Clinton may have been the result of that effort “to bring through, into our reality, the archetype divine feminine, the Whore of Babylon.”

“She’ll grow up, she’ll become an influential worldwide-known feminist who will help give rise to the Antichrist,” Horn said. “They believed that that was Hillary Clinton.”

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:36:47pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

That Otto Link guy who messed with Rudy’s tweet must be a friend of Scott Free.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:36:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:37:04pm

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

Come on, where’s the Flynn filing already?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:37:10pm

re: #280 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The train from Kook-a-monga has gone supersonic.

Is Hillary Clinton The Whore of Babylon?

Supersonic? Now entering orbit around the flat earth, I’d say.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:37:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:38:00pm

re: #280 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The train from Kook-a-monga has gone supersonic.

Is Hillary Clinton The Whore of Babylon?

HRC as people learn more, they’ll realize this was a stateswoman. Trump will be regarded as a stupid Benedict Arnold.

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bratwurst  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:38:02pm

WHY IS THE TWITTER ALLOWING CARD CARRYING ANTI-TRUMPERS TO INVADE RUDY’S TEXT?!?!?!

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:38:09pm

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

Come on, where’s the Flynn filing already?

Released. Chris Hayes is talking about it now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:38:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:39:01pm

re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Michael Flynn was just a coffee general and national security adviser.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:39:58pm

re: #289 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn. And here I was ready to lord it over the vegans for a while longer.

/half

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Charles Johnson  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:40:24pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:41:10pm

re: #268 thecommodore

Maybe Mueller is going to finally admit that there is no evidence of collusion and that the real crime here was the unmasking of Flynn by Susan Rice.

//////

Because, as we all know, the problem isn’t Flynn committing felonies. The problem is people knowing about it.
//

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:41:53pm

re: #292 Charles Johnson

Most places in America would call that “alcoholic” and send them to rehab.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:43:04pm

re: #291 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Damn. And here I was ready to lord it over the vegans for a while longer.

/half

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:44:39pm

re: #295 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

If only Chick-Fil-A opened a little earlier, I’d eat it for breakfast a little more often. These days I leave for work so early that they’re only just opening by the time I get to the office.

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ObserverArt  Dec 4, 2018 • 5:51:32pm

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

Come on, where’s the Flynn filing already?

Good things come to those that wait.

I want the good things!

The goods.

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SpikeDad  Dec 5, 2018 • 2:16:36pm

re: #296 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They need the mornings for their anti-gay prayers.


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Elvis Costello & the Imposters - Suspect My Tears The new deluxe album ‘Look Now’ out now, order here: elviscostello.lnk.to Explore more music from Elvis Costello: lnk.to Follow Elvis Costello:Facebook: facebook.comInstagram: instagram.comTwitter: twitter.comWebsite: elviscostello.com Director & Original Story - MustashrikExecutive Production - Whitney JacksonProduced by Partizan VFX Supervisor ...
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VULFPECK /// Half of the Way (Feat. Theo Katzman) VULFPECK /// Half of the Waybuy on bandcamp → vuuulf.com Theo Katzman — vocalsLarry Goldings — piano, composerRyan Lerman — guitar, composer, engineerJoey Dosik — saxWoody Goss — tambourineJack Stratton — drums, mixingJoe Dart — fender bassCory Wong — ...
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Storyhill - Blazing Out of Sight (Live at Radio Heartland)Storyhill perform "Blazing Out of Sight," from their 2007 self-titled album as well from the 2018 compilation, "Stages," live at Radio Heartland.
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How Smooth Jazz Took Over the ’90s You should give smooth jazz a chance. Subscribe to our channel! goo.gl Smooth jazz has gotten a bad rap for decades. It’s often associated with background music for elevators or the soundtrack at the dentist office. Smooth jazz is ...
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Feds Target Butina’s GOP Boyfriend as Foreign Agent Paul Erickson, a longtime Republican politico whose Russian girlfriend is in jail on charges she acted as a covert foreign agent, has been informed that he may face similar accusations. The Daily Beast reviewed a so-called “target letter” that ...
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Police: Charge Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu With Bribery in Telecom Case - Israel News - Haaretz.com The police and Israel Securities Authority on Sunday recommended indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyau and his wife, Sara, as well as media mogul Shaul Elovitch and his wife, Iris, for bribery and other corruption charges in the investigation dubbed ...
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