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gocart mozart  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:31:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:34:56pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

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I’m going to keep defending her. I saw a really poor hot take today comparing her to Trump.

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gocart mozart  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:36:55pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Sanders is being a jerk here.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:38:40pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

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Wanna bet Sanders thinks she’s his.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:40:46pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

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According to the thread, it wasn’t the first time he put his hand on her shoulder. And I didn’t know this:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:43:40pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

Sanders is being a jerk here.

I see that. I like ACO but not him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:44:30pm

re: #4 Belafon

Wanna bet Sanders thinks she’s his.

He probably thinks he’s why she won.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:45:27pm

I’m to her center on economics but I’m glad she challenges the economic status quo. Capitalism can’t sustain if it is worshipped and not improved.

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gocart mozart  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:51:42pm
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jaunte  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:53:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:53:34pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

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Nothing because you shouldn’t be giving anyone free stuff.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:53:49pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

A Fathead rendering of Bernie Sanders.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:54:29pm

re: #10 jaunte

Three words: Magical Balance Fairy. The mainstream media is so afraid of being viewed as partisan that they’re, well, acting partisan.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:54:34pm

re: #10 jaunte

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Dunno why the Republicans hate the NYT so much when they have hot takes like this that would make FNC envious.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:55:31pm

re: #13 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Three words: Magical Balance Fairy. The mainstream media is so afraid of being viewed as partisan that they’re, well, acting partisan.

Exactly. They’re so afraid of being called liberal, they do shit like this.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:55:47pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:56:07pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Exactly. They’re so afraid of being called liberal, they do shit like this.

Though to be fair, if I had to choose to piss off a political side, I would choose the liberals. Pissing off conservatives tends to cause things like, oh, OKLAHOMA CITY.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:56:41pm

In what kind of world is 50% okay?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:56:50pm

re: #17 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Though to be fair, if I had to choose to piss off a political side, I would choose the liberals. Pissing off conservatives tends to cause things like, oh, OKLAHOMA CITY.

True.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:56:59pm

Why are the NYT and Washington Post so fucking bizarre sometimes??

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:58:22pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Why are the NYT and Washington Post so fucking bizarre sometimes??

Because every right winger I ever knew growing up cried that the Post was communist.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:58:25pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s the timeline where House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is chaired by Devin Nunes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2018 • 7:59:44pm

re: #22 jaunte

It’s the timeline where House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence is chaired by Devin Nunes.

That’d be the House Permanent Select Committee on Stupidity.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:00:11pm

Then you’ve got Douhat’s pining for the WASPs. Yeah I don’t miss snobby social clubs that ban Jews, Catholics, & Blacks as members and an establishment convinced of their superiority because of their socioeconomic status.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:03:37pm

I do like ACO but I wish the other freshmen got some attention too. Sharice Davids already has a leadership role. And there are other neat freshmen too. The guy who replaced Polis in Colorado is a son of Entriean immigrants. And the two Muslim ladies too. My own Congresswoman elect is the first Dem to represent the district since 1978.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:05:30pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I do like ACO but I wish the other freshmen got some attention too. Sharice Davids already has a leadership role. And there are other neat freshmen too. The guy who replaced Polis in Colorado is a son of Entriean immigrants. And the two Muslim ladies too. My own Congresswoman elect is the first Dem to represent the district since 1978.

Yeah, lots of new faces in Congress with whom we should get acquainted. AOC is a great story and I’m so happy to have her, I hope she has a long career and is successful as a leader in Congress, but let’s take the bigger picture as well.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:09:33pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, lots of new faces in Congress with whom we should get acquainted. ACO is a great story and I’m so happy to have her, I hope she has a long career and is successful as a leader in Congress, but let’s take the bigger picture as well.

Absolutely. I don’t want her to fall victim to overexposure. She has an unique challenge since she primaried a long tenured rep. I’m excited for her and her future for sure.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:10:10pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Why are the NYT and Washington Post so fucking bizarre sometimes??

They snort that Magic Balance Fairy Dust 24/7.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:11:45pm

re: #16 jaunte

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I would like to know who the actual liberal subscribers are.

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:11:49pm

Ok, I had to drag this from the last thread because it is so utterly bonkers:

I have been watching all things Scientological for the last quarter-century and I NEVER EVER thought I’d see L. Ron Hubbard’s “sex magick” with Jack Parsons linked up to Hillary Clinton. NEVER. This is, bar none, the most lunatic thing I have ever heard that invoked Scientology ever.

Sweet Meteor o’Death, it’s time to put in an appearance, buddy.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:12:28pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I do like ACO but I wish the other freshmen got some attention too. Sharice Davids already has a leadership role. And there are other neat freshmen too. The guy who replaced Polis in Colorado is a son of Entriean immigrants. And the two Muslim ladies too. My own Congresswoman elect is the first Dem to represent the district since 1978.

AOC.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:13:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:13:54pm

re: #31 Belafon

AOC.

Thanks. My bad. :)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:15:09pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Then you’ve got Douhat’s pining for the WASPs. Yeah I don’t miss snobby social clubs that ban Jews, Catholics, & Blacks as members and an establishment convinced of their superiority because of their socioeconomic status.

ESPECIALLY since I remember what went on in my home town of Ambridge PA before the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964.

People of color were “asked” to stay away from the borough pool.

Stores were “restricted”. People of color could not shop at Penney’s. They went to Sears.

“Fraternal Orders” were also “restricted” denying Catholics membership.

We had a “Turner’s Athletic Club” for whites only.

The YMCA in the next town didn’t admit people of color or Jews.

All stores closed on Sunday which hit Jews in the pocketbook because they did not have their stores or offices open on Saturday.

And on and on it went…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:16:44pm

re: #30 mmmirele

Ok, I had to drag this from the last thread because it is so utterly bonkers:

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I have been watching all things Scientological for the last quarter-century and I NEVER EVER thought I’d see L. Ron Hubbard’s “sex magick” with Jack Parsons linked up to Hillary Clinton. NEVER. This is, bar none, the most lunatic thing I have ever heard that invoked Scientology ever.

Sweet Meteor o’Death, it’s time to put in an appearance, buddy.

Of course, how did he figure it out! Seriously why can’t conservatives just be disagreeable douches instead of painfully stupid ones?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:19:00pm

re: #30 mmmirele

Ok, I had to drag this from the last thread because it is so utterly bonkers:

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I have been watching all things Scientological for the last quarter-century and I NEVER EVER thought I’d see L. Ron Hubbard’s “sex magick” with Jack Parsons linked up to Hillary Clinton. NEVER. This is, bar none, the most lunatic thing I have ever heard that invoked Scientology ever.

Sweet Meteor o’Death, it’s time to put in an appearance, buddy.

They need to get their talking points straight since John Hagee says the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon.

Jerry Falwell said, nope…it’s the Democratic Party.

And when they claim that Obama was the Antichrist I remind them that the Antichrist was ALREADY President and here’s the proof!

RONALD = 6
WILSON = 6
REAGAN = 6

Also—Revelation said that the Antichrist would appear to be mortally wounded and he miraculously survived. Surgeons said that if Reagan had been operated on a couple minutes later he would have bled to death.

When I submit this proof to Radical Xtians they give me that “WTF” look…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:21:19pm

re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹

ESPECIALLY since I remember what went on in my home town of Ambridge PA before the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964.

People of color were “asked” to stay away from the borough pool.

Stores were “restricted”. People of color could not shop at Penney’s. They went to Sears.

“Fraternal Orders” were also “restricted” denying Catholics membership.

We had a “Turner’s Athletic Club” for whites only.

The YMCA in the next town didn’t admit people of color or Jews.

All stores closed on Sunday which hit Jews in the pocketbook because they did not have their stores or offices open on Saturday.

And on and on it went…

I find myself wondering Joe if it was a big deal when my great grandparents married. Both were from German families but Dad’s grandfather was from a Lutheran one and his grandmother Catholic. Dad’s own parents were a North Side mesh- German Dad and Irish Mom and there was class differences too. All those things were much considered problematic when Ross’s WASPs were our ruling elites.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:28:19pm

The Washington Post is still substantially better than the New York Times. But I’m really getting pissed off at the Times lately. What they’re doing is bullshit.

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:31:07pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

The Washington Post is still substantially better than the New York Times. But I’m really getting pissed off at the Times lately. What they’re doing is bullshit.

“Lately?” The Times was a cheerleader for the disastrous Iraq war. It’s been an awful paper for a long time. The Post makes me cringe, but not enough to where I want to cancel my subscription. Besides, they have David Fahrenthold on the Trump charity beat.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:31:32pm

Trump is considering making people pay for asylum. Goddamn. Franklin Pierce was awful bjt we didn’t have this shit fleeing the Potato Famine.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:32:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:34:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:34:52pm

Sofa king sick of that jackass we elected king.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:35:41pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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This is like if I bragged about barely passing 7th grade math. It’s stupid. And it’s bullshit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:35:55pm

re: #39 mmmirele

“Lately?” The Times was a cheerleader for the disastrous Iraq war. It’s been an awful paper for a long time. The Post makes me cringe, but not enough to where I want to cancel my subscription. Besides, they have David Fahrenthold on the Trump charity beat.

Go back further when the Times fabricated the Whitewater BS. Their news reporters have a white hot hatred of Bill and Hillary Clinton going back to Bill’s 1988 nomination speech for Dukakis.

I have a very soft spot in my soul for Media Whores Online which documented all the Republican biased articles the Times printed while it was on line.

Bob Somerby’s Daily Howler picked up the baton documenting how the Times endlessly lied about Al Gore in 2000. The Daily Howler still chronicles their bias.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:37:22pm

re: #45 Joe Bacon 🌹

Go back further when the Times fabricated the Whitewater BS. Their news reporters have a white hot hatred of Bill and Hillary Clinton going back to Bill’s 1988 nomination speech for Dukakis.

I have a very soft spot in my soul for Media Whores Online which documented all the Republican biased articles the Times printed while it was on line.

Bob Somerby’s Daily Howler picked up the baton documenting how the Times endlessly lied about Al Gore in 2000. The Daily Howler still chronicles their bias.

Al Gore claimed he invented the internet. Hurr hurr / I remember the Howler anc MWO tol

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:39:31pm

Trump couldn’t even be bothered to wear a suit that fit today. All the other presidents looked very sharp.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:41:05pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Oh that’s right. They couldn’t stop “reporting” how “long” and “boring” Clinton’s speech at the 1988 convention was.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:43:08pm

re: #48 Ace Rothstein

Oh that’s right. They couldn’t stop “reporting” how “long” and “boring” Clinton’s speech at the 1988 convention was.

Was too young for that. TBH there’s always been classism at heart in why Bill was hated. He wasn’t from the wealthy daddy network.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:43:19pm

Note how Maureen Dowd decided to rise from her coffin and do her shtick today…

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:43:19pm

re: #39 mmmirele

I will say that the NY Times’ podcast “The Daily” is fantastic.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:44:20pm

re: #50 Joe Bacon 🌹

LOL she’s still around? That tells you how long it’s been since I’ve read that rag.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:46:08pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:46:30pm

Do any Republicans care that Trump said that he would eliminate the national debt in eight years? Or is that just a “when a black guy is president” thing?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:46:34pm

re: #52 Ace Rothstein

LOL she’s still around? That tells you how long it’s been since I’ve read that rag.

She said that “sources” told her that Trump was throwing stuff at his TV.

Based on that liar’s track record, I wouldn’t be surprised if she throws the kitchen sink at the TV whenever Bill or Hillary come on.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:47:07pm

re: #53 Single-handed sailor

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Bet most of them still vote for him though.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:47:42pm

re: #54 Ace Rothstein

Do any Republicans care that Trump said that he would eliminate the national debt in eight years? Or is that just a “when a black guy is president” thing?

They’re just unethical power hungry pigs.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:47:44pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember when she said that she and her girlfriends listened to Eminem when they worked out. Right.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:48:53pm

re: #54 Ace Rothstein

Do any Republicans care that Trump said that he would eliminate the national debt in eight years? Or is that just a “when a black guy is president” thing?

My family still posts the BS about Obama “added more debt than all other Presidents combined”. And yes, they are dumbed down enough by the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine that they believe Gawd’s Anointed King will eliminate the debt.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:49:56pm

re: #58 Ace Rothstein

I remember when she said that she and her girlfriends listened to Eminem when they worked out. Right.

She probably listens to Ted Nugent.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:50:26pm

re: #59 Joe Bacon 🌹

I love that one. As if Obama just created all these new programs.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:51:04pm

re: #39 mmmirele

“Lately?” The Times was a cheerleader for the disastrous Iraq war. It’s been an awful paper for a long time. The Post makes me cringe, but not enough to where I want to cancel my subscription. Besides, they have David Fahrenthold on the Trump charity beat.

Oh, I know their history. But since Dean Baquet took over it’s gotten much worse with the pandering to the right.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:51:23pm

The Sous Vide Chronicles continued: Today I started this recipe, substituting Au Jus Better than Bouillon for the demi glace base. Currently in the bath for 24 hours, will be ready at 6 pm tomorrow.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:51:59pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon 🌹

Actually, she said it was Bush 41 that threw the shoe at the TV when Trump was on. I hope it’s true.
talkingpointsmemo.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:52:15pm

re: #61 Ace Rothstein

I love that one. As if Obama just created all these new programs.

It’s amazing how rw propaganda works. None of my close family has fallen victim to it tho. I think all my first cousins, aunts, & uncles are moderate to liberal.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:54:20pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Oh, I know their history. But since Dean Baquet took over it’s gotten much worse with the pandering to the right.

Ah! Didn’t know they got new management. That explains it.

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Mattand  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:54:32pm

re: #53 Single-handed sailor

Nebraskan farmers say Trump’s trade conflicts have cost them $1,000,000,000 in revenue, according to the Omaha World. Herald

Yet they most likely still support Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:54:49pm

re: #64 Ace Rothstein

Actually, she said it was Bush 41.
talkingpointsmemo.com

Appreciate the extra set of eyes. I love how diabetes sometimes blurs the vision.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:55:19pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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So he’s a classic Republican, sticking the country with the bill while he rides off into the sunset.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:55:27pm

After a wonderful funeral, and a touching, moving eulogy from Bush 43, Trump ended his day with a tweet about his approval rating. I hate that piece of shit.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:56:19pm

re: #67 Mattand

Yet they most likely will absolutely still support Trump.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:57:53pm

re: #67 Mattand

Yet they most likely still support Trump.

Of course. Why? Because they’ll tell themselves that they’ve had hard times before, shit happens that they have no control over, and they can’t blame him for this because it was the Chinese who went looking for soybeans elsewhere. They’ll tell themselves that things will sort themselves out, they’ll take a hit this year, but he’s “making America great again” and that’s gonna mean a bit of sacrifice on everybody’s part.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 8:58:53pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

Of course. Why? Because they’ll tell themselves that they’ve had hard times before, shit happens that they have no control over, and they can’t blame him for this because it was the Chinese who went looking for soybeans elsewhere. They’ll tell themselves that things will sort themselves out, they’ll take a hit this year, but he’s “making America great again” and that’s gonna mean a bit of sacrifice on everybody’s part.

And they love seeing Trump kick colored people down.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:00:27pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

And they love seeing Trump kick colored people down.

“He makes us feel good about ourselves! He’s just like Reagan!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:01:10pm

re: #67 Mattand

Yet they most likely still support Trump.

Losing $1 Billion in business to own the Libs.

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Mattand  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:05:29pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

Of course. Why? Because they’ll tell themselves that they’ve had hard times before, shit happens that they have no control over, and they can’t blame him for this because it was the Chinese who went looking for soybeans elsewhere. They’ll tell themselves that things will sort themselves out, they’ll take a hit this year, but he’s “making America great again” and that’s gonna mean a bit of sacrifice on everybody’s part.

Christ, that’s practically what the soybean farmers said in the article I read about that mess. The mindset was just effing insane. It was literally “We were doing great until Trump enacted these tariffs, but if him destroying our livelihoods makes America great again, sign us up!

“Also, where’s our billion dollar handout that we’d lose our shit over if it were given to non-white people?”

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Mattand  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:06:16pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Losing $1 Billion in business to own the Libs.

The Milo Method of Agriculture.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:07:10pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

Bet most of them still vote for him though.

+10 in Nebraska as of Oct 2018

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:07:59pm

Current mood.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:08:53pm
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Teukka  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:09:17pm

OT: So one of my favorite artists, Jean-Michel Jarre, released a new album :)

THE WATCHERS (movement 1)

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:09:23pm

re: #79 Ace Rothstein

Current mood.

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In the ear!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:10:08pm

I’m behind the curve but I just found out Netflix canceled Daredevil, and that really sucks. One of the few Netflix series I was really looking forward to, and one of their best overall without a doubt. Now I am sad.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:10:40pm

Remember, Reagan oversaw the breaking of the back of public unions, the beginning of the following decades of moving jobs overseas to cheaper labor, financial ruin for hundreds of farmers, the tripling of the national debt that has had consequences for following presidencies, and an economic bubble that popped just as he left office.

Yet wingnuts think him the greatest man to ever hold the office and want his ass on Mt. Rushmore. Hell, I’ve heard more than one joke that Nixon did nothing illegal, but that his real crime was “he got caught.” So yeah, I don’t believe that any level of ruin is going to scare off enough wingnut voters to ensure Donny avoid a Goldwater-level shellacking.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:11:20pm

BTW, that Effin Birds website is fucking awesome.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:12:03pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

“Nixon was only guilty of ‘process crimes’!”

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:12:08pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

And for your GAAAH moment from the left:

This is an empty comment, Seth.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:14:02pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

I’m behind the curve but I just found out Netflix canceled Daredevil, and that really sucks. One of the few Netflix series I was really looking forward to, and one of their best overall without a doubt. Now I am sad.

My understanding is basically that Netflix is shit-canning all their Marvel series because Disney’s gearing up to start their own streaming service soon and Marvel has indicated an interest in do their own thing on said service. So Netflix would be providing free advertising to a competing service.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:15:15pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

I’m behind the curve but I just found out Netflix canceled Daredevil, and that really sucks. One of the few Netflix series I was really looking forward to, and one of their best overall without a doubt. Now I am sad.

Yep, probably in retaliation after Disney said they’d yank their stuff off Netflix because they are starting their own streaming service.

Annnd I see Targetpractice beat me to it lol.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:16:12pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, probably in retaliation after Disney said they’d yank their stuff off Netflix because they are starting their own streaming service.

Warner is restarting their streaming service too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:18:41pm

re: #90 Joe Bacon 🌹

Warner is restarting their streaming service too.

Which fucking sucks because I don’t to pay for 8 fucking streaming services each month just so I can watch the stuff I want to watch.

At $9.99 to $14.99 pop, you’re right back to paying as much as you would on a monthly cable bill.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:19:48pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:20:52pm

re: #92 Ace-o-aces

That’s a pretty big IF.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:20:58pm

re: #90 Joe Bacon 🌹

Warner is restarting their streaming service too.

People won’t go to 12 different streaming services to watch their shows, so I think this fragmentation will be short-lived. What will really be funny, though, is Netflix open sources a good chunk of the technology that allows the streaming to work, so all these companies will be building on the technology of the company they hope to beat.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:22:28pm

re: #92 Ace-o-aces

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It looks like the market is going to decide. //

Maybe we’ll see the return of the midwife.

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Mattand  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:23:10pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

Which fucking sucks because I don’t to pay for 8 fucking streaming services each month just so I can watch the stuff I want to watch.

At $9.99 to $14.99 pop, you’re right back to paying as much as you would on a monthly cable bill.

That’s exactly why we never cut the cord. Verizon would always want to jack up the internet price if we unbundled it from TV. In addition, we watch enough TV that the subscription cost of a la carte service wound up putting us right back at Verizon’s initial price.

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Scout  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:23:25pm

I wonder if Flynn has given Mueller anything on Pence. It’s always been my gut feeling there’s plenty of evil to mine in that dark quarter.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:29:35pm

re: #53 Single-handed sailor

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re: #87 Belafon

And for your GAAAH moment from the left:

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This is an empty comment, Seth.

Trump is a psychopath, but we really don’t have to worry about the national debt because its not going to become unsustainable. But there are better things we could do with that money than give it to billionaires.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:30:57pm

re: #76 Mattand

Christ, that’s practically what the soybean farmers said in the article I read about that mess. The mindset was just effing insane. It was literally “We were doing great until Trump enacted these tariffs, but if him destroying our livelihoods makes America great again, sign us up!

“Also, where’s our billion dollar handout that we’d lose our shit over if it were given to non-white people?”

Because those white farmers look at the brown fellows in their fields and think “Things were better when those were white guys.” It’s that “economy anxiety” that Donny appealed to that tells them personal financial ruin is a small price to pay.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:33:01pm

re: #92 Ace-o-aces

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They have been voting based on racism for 16 decades; they aren’t going to stop now.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:33:08pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

Which fucking sucks because I don’t to pay for 8 fucking streaming services each month just so I can watch the stuff I want to watch.

At $9.99 to $14.99 pop, you’re right back to paying as much as you would on a monthly cable bill.

Growing up, I lost track of the number of people who blurted out to me or in my presence “I don’t want to pay for all those channels, just the ones I actually watch! If I could pick and choose, it would be so much cheaper for me!”

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:34:22pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:35:21pm

We’re changing our rating on this race to Lean Prison.

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:36:36pm

re: #102 Belafon

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Which will mean wingnuts will zero in not on the fact that interns are unpaid, but that apartments are so expensive to rent in D.C. and suggest that it’s yet further proof that “Socialism doesn’t work!”

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sagehen  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:36:48pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

Sanders is being a jerk here ALWAYS EVERYWHERE.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 5, 2018 • 9:41:15pm

Good ole fox, always predictable.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 5, 2018 • 10:21:51pm
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meteor  Dec 5, 2018 • 10:24:46pm
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TedStriker  Dec 5, 2018 • 11:01:17pm

re: #108 meteor

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 5, 2018 • 11:48:35pm

Our friend from Paradise doesn’t know when he can go back to their home that is still standing. There is no water or electricity in town. The town reservoir drained from all the melted pipes after the fire. The electrical substations, poles, transformers, and lines need to be replaced. If they use natural gas up there then that needs repair too.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:00:39am
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teleskiguy  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:00:41am

re: #110 Single-handed sailor

Our friend from Paradise doesn’t know when he can go back to their home that is still standing. There is no water or electricity in town. The town reservoir drained from all the melted pipes after the fire. The electrical substations, poles, transformers, and lines need to be replaced. If they use natural gas up there then that needs repair too.

Worse than tornadoes in a lot of ways, fire.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:04:24am

re: #112 teleskiguy

Worse than tornadoes in a lot of ways, fire.

With the rain season, and this one is looking wet so far, the burned areas (2850 square miles) are going to melt into mud flows.

edit: missed my commas.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:11:49am
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teleskiguy  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:12:49am

I bought climbing skins for my skis today. They still need to be trimmed. I’m going to start walking up the ski area once or twice a week, for the exercise.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:14:17am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:22:49am

OPEC Live in 40 minutes.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:26:36am

Yanks!

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:27:49am

re: #111 Single-handed sailor

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Yeah, no, Trump is no way a Dirty Harry. He’s Dick Jones from Robocop, the amoral businessman who views the death of a subordinate after being jackhammered by dozens of .50BMG rounds as a “glitch.”

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:39:27am

re: #119 Targetpractice

Yeah, no, Trump is no way a Dirty Harry. He’s Dick Jones from Robocop, the amoral businessman who views the death of a subordinate after being jackhammered by dozens of .50BMG rounds as a “glitch.”

Trump is Stupid Dick Jones*.

*with apologies to Ronny Cox

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:41:18am

Are you stupid?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:42:52am

re: #121 Single-handed sailor

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Are you stupid?

Can you really commit murder if you do it on 5th Avenue?

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Targetpractice  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:51:23am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

Trump is Stupid Dick Jones*.

*with apologies to Ronny Cox

Well, I thought about it a bit more and decided that he’s more like The Old Man, aka OCP’s CEO. The one whose response after watching said exec getting turned into hamburger was to tell Jones that he was “very disappointed.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:52:00am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

NEW: Trump has told aides he doesn’t care about the national debt in part because when it becomes truly untenable he will be out of office

His business model has always been to accumulate piles of debt and then walk away from them…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:54:29am

re: #80 Single-handed sailor

Donald Trump henchman Steve Bannon loses place as keynote speaker for scientific conference devoted to “sex robots.”

He may well be the first man in history to find himself rejected by a sex robot…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:56:31am

re: #88 Targetpractice

My understanding is basically that Netflix is shit-canning all their Marvel series because Disney’s gearing up to start their own streaming service soon and Marvel has indicated an interest in do their own thing on said service. So Netflix would be providing free advertising to a competing service.

I am going to cancel my Netflix and Amazon because I can get a better deal negotiating streaming from all the individual providers,. I call it “Netflexit”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:00:14am

re: #122 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Can you really commit murder if you do it on 5th Avenue?

Is it really cheating on your wife when she appears in photos with your mistresses?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:04:50am

A breaking and developing story out of the UK, from the BBC:

Police investigating extreme right-wing activity in UK arrest three men on terror charges

Just that blurb so far.

bbc.com

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:05:47am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:09:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:20:01am

Six points away from 111K karma!

I live for these little arbitrary milestones in life

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:44:46am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:46:44am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:49:54am

So instead of assassinating archdukes, it is going to be trade disputes that trigger the next World War?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:01:04am

With regard to the BBC news blurb I posted earlier about three RWNJ’s arrested on terror charges, I’m thinking it might be related to this.

A university student from Bath and a London teenager are among those involved with a UK version of a violent American neo-Nazi group linked to five murders, a BBC investigation has found.

A propaganda image placed online by the British group suggests Prince Harry is a “race traitor” and should be shot.

Private messages between members show the leader stating that police officers should be raped and killed.

Evidence suggests the leader is Andrew Dymock, 21. He denies wrongdoing.

The BBC has seen evidence he set up the new British group known as the Sonnenkrieg Division.

It says at the end of that article:

The BBC will be passing all its evidence to the police.

bbc.com

It seems like this “Sonnenkrieg Division” is apparently some kind of UK offshoot of Atomwaffen, a RW terrorist group, which has been linked in the US to five murders and whose co-founder is now cooling his heels in the slammer on explosives charges.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:01:37am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, of course. As you know, our blockade is perfectly legal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:05:38am

re: #136 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

Yes, of course. As you know, our blockade is perfectly legal.

Tariff Man is also Embargo Man…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:12:26am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So instead of assassinating archdukes, it is going to be trade disputes that trigger the next World War?

The War of Trump’s Ear?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:15:05am

LOL that’s the day before the British Parliament is set to vote on PM May’s Brexit deal.

AHAHAHAHA!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:31:00am

re: #139 Dr Lizardo

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LOL that’s the day before the British Parliament is set to vote on PM May’s Brexit deal.

AHAHAHAHA!!

again, Brexit was not a binding referendum, it was a request for Parliament to implement Article 50.

Of course, if they back out, there will not be enough eggs in England to cover the faces of the MPs who supported it…

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:52:01am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, Brexit was not a binding referendum, it was a request for Parliament to implement Article 50.

Of course, if they back out, there will not be enough eggs in England to cover the faces of the MPs who supported it…

If they backed out and revoked Article 50, it would also mean the Tories cast into the political wilderness for a decade or so. I could easily see the Tories splitting into two separate political parties; the Brexiteers either leaving and forming their own party (or perhaps defecting to UKIP or whatnot, which itself was created by former Tory members unhappy with the generally pro-EU stance of their party in the 1990’s) and the rest coalescing around some sort of soft-Euroskeptic (but in the EU) position.

A revocation of Article 50 would affect Labour as well, but I’d venture not as dramatically.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:02:48am

re: #141 Dr Lizardo

If they backed out and revoked Article 50, it would also mean the Tories cast into the political wilderness for a decade or so.

Scary part is that the total collapse of the British economy following a hard Brexit would probably be less damaging to the Tories.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:09:03am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am going to cancel my Netflix and Amazon because I can get a better deal negotiating streaming from all the individual providers,. I call it “Netflexit”

At the risk of starting the obvious, this Balkanization of content is just going to drive the net-savvy to find their favorite shows on torrent sites. Or dog forbid wait till they are released on DVD or pay per view.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:10:13am

110K!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:23:53am

So, came across this news item:

Dozens of for-profit college campuses across the country abruptly closed this week after their parent company lost its accreditation and funding.

The schools are owned by Birmingham, Alabama-based Education Corp. of America (ECA), which runs more than 75 campuses across the U.S. Its campuses operate under a variety of names, several of which offer “career-focused” diploma and associate’s degree programs.

A statement on ECA’s student information page announced the December 2018 closure of its campuses, including those operating as Brightwood College, Brightwood Career Institute, Ecotech Institute, Golf Academy of America and Virginia College .

The move comes after the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools suspended ECA’S accreditation on Dec. 4.

The company is one of the nation’s largest for-profit colleges, serving at least 20,000 students, Inside Higher Ed reports.

ktvb.com

Looks like the parent company, Education Corp. of America (ECA,) was $50 million in debt and their accreditation got yanked the other day - which turned out to be the fatal blow.

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:31:11am
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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:36:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:02:59am

In news regarding failing former US retail giant, Sears:

Revised internal forecasts show that Sears Holdings Corp. will bleed hundreds of millions of dollars more than it expected over the coming weeks, casting new doubt on whether the bankrupt retailer can avoid liquidation.

When the company declared bankruptcy Oct. 15, it filed a budget with revenue forecasts of $241 million for the week of Christmas and $1.93 billion for the two months ending Jan. 12. But an updated budget filed Friday shows only $215 million the week of Christmas and $1.69 billion for the entire two months, almost $246 million less than originally projected.

Sears also now expects negative operating cash flow in the weeks leading up to Christmas and net cash flow before financing of minus $434 million for the 13 weeks through Feb. 16. The revised figures were included in documents filed late last week with the federal bankruptcy court handling the case. A Sears representative declined to comment.

“There’s no place in the world for a retailer who can’t produce cash flow during Christmas,” said Noel Hebert, a credit analyst who covers Sears for Bloomberg Intelligence. “It’s very difficult to envision a scenario where liquidation isn’t the end game.”

Even though Sears filed for Chapter 11 a few weeks back, I predicted that probably shortly after the beginning of next year, that Chapter 11 will end up being re-filed as a Chapter 7 bankruptcy and that’ll be the end of the road.

chicagotribune.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:10:20am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

So, came across this news item:

ktvb.com

Looks like the parent company, Education Corp. of America (ECA,) was $50 million in debt and their accreditation got yanked the other day - which turned out to be the fatal blow.

This seems to have Betsy DeVos’ Boss Hoss fingerprints all over it

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:10:36am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

In news regarding failing former US retail giant, Sears:

Even though Sears filed for Chapter 11 a few weeks back, I predicted that probably shortly after the beginning of next year, that Chapter 11 will end up being re-filed as a Chapter 7 bankruptcy and that’ll be the end of the road.

chicagotribune.com

I am not sure why Sears felt that shoppers would continue to shop at a bankrupt company? Department stores are dying anyway and without a viable company to back up purchases…who would think this is a sustainable option? I mean, really.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:11:18am

re: #147 MsJ

NEW: Trump has told aides he doesn’t care about the national debt in part because when it becomes truly untenable he will be out of office

again, his business model is to accumulate mountains of debt and then walk away from them…it works for him

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:11:28am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This seems to have Betsy DeVos’ Boss Hoss fingerprints all over it

And how many students will be in debt up to their eyeballs now as a result? Betsy gets all hot and bothered when students get fucked over.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:12:06am

re: #152 MsJ

And how many students will be in debt up to their eyeballs now as a result? Betsy gets all hot and bothered when students get fucked over.

in debt with little or nothing to show for it, as well…

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:18:38am

Putting George Bush’s legacy in perspective.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:20:20am

re: #154 DodgerFan1988

This Christmas it will be 29 years since George HW #Bush ordered the US invasion of Panama with the sole objective to arrest Noriega, the former CIA agent who “knew too much”. Nearly 3000 civilians were killed.

I read a story that it was all based on a bad telephone connection: the rebels had captured him and said “We want to hand him over” but Bush understood “We won’t hand him over” and thus ordered the invasion

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:46:10am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

The schools are owned by Birmingham, Alabama-based Education Corp. of America (ECA), which runs more than 75 campuses across the U.S. Its campuses operate under a variety of names, several of which offer “career-focused” diploma and associate’s degree programs.

Not really a good educational model in my opinion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:47:03am

re: #156 Sir John Barron

Not really a good educational model in my opinion.

It is the Betsy Devos Dream Model…maximum profit, minimal answerability

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:51:33am

re: #156 Sir John Barron

Not really a good educational model in my opinion.

Yep. I feel for the people that were in the middle of classes when this blew up; it’s not their fault. They’re really screwed unless they can get their student loans written off.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:51:36am

re: #106 Single-handed sailor

Good ole fox, always predictable.

“Republicans say there’s massive voter fraud. Why are they changing their tune now?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:54:58am

re: #159 Sir John Barron

“Republicans say there’s massive voter fraud. Why are they changing their tune now?”

GOP definition of “voter fraud”: Latinos and blacks voting illegally or multiple times

Democratic definition: GOP officials tampering with ballots

BIG DIFFERENCE HERE

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:56:28am

Looks like various central banks are beginning to sound warnings regarding the possibility of another recession, or at least sluggish growth.

theguardian.com

I’m not surprised; as I’ve said here before, many of students - most of whom are involved in the financial sector in one form or another - are anticipating a recession sometime next year (they’re talking locally, as in Czech Republic/EU).

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:57:48am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GOP definition of “voter fraud”: Latinos and blacks voting illegally or multiple times

FTFY.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:02:41am

Off to work. Back later.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:04:07am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

The US stock markets have been on a decade-long climb and experts have been predicting that bubble is going to pop anytime now. The cryptocurrency markets have been hammered already, though it’s not clear why, other than allegations “whales” are manipulating prices to snap up Bitcoin on the cheap from amateurs selling at a loss. I’ve read that home sales and values are declining, too.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:06:28am

re: #111 Single-handed sailor

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:07:28am

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Good morning!

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:16:03am

re: #116 Single-handed sailor

So, really, the Saudis are in worse shape than Russia.

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:17:21am

Who’s surprised? Anyone?

Didn’t think so.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:17:46am

This has gone completely under the radar.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:20:40am

Interesting China news today.

Canada has arrested the CFO of Huawei and will extradite her to the USA, on charges that Huawei sold stuff to Iran. China be pissed.

And Reuters has run a story alleging that Chinese hackers were behind the hack of Stanwood Hotels. China denies it.

It seems the extradition happened while Trump was having dinner with his very bestest friend Xi Jinping in Argentina. They might not be so sociable now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:20:56am

re: #167 Belafon

So, really, the Saudis are in worse shape than Russia.

yes, there is a power struggle going on there and we are siding with the wrong people

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:22:18am

re: #170 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Interesting China news today.

Canada has arrested the CFO of Huawei and will extradite her to the USA, on charges that Huawei sold stuff to Iran. China be pissed.

And Reuters has run a story alleging that Chinese hackers were behind the hack of Stanwood Hotels. China denies it.

It seems the extradition happened while Trump was having dinner with his very bestest friend Xi Jinping in Argentina. They might not be so sociable now.

Trump is the one who insisted on withdrawing from the Iran Nuclear Treaty, this is what comes of it.

The man wants to have his cheeseburgers and eat them too.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:25:22am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is the one who insisted on withdrawing from the Iran Nuclear Treaty, this is what comes of it.

The man wants to have his cheeseburgers and eat them too.

Historians will have a fun time analyzing how one man with no foreign policy experience ended up as president and proceeded to fuck up decades of well crafted American geopolitics, mostly on a momentary whim.

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:35:17am

re: #173 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Historians will have a fun time analyzing how one man with no foreign policy experience ended up as president and proceeded to fuck up decades of well crafted American geopolitics, mostly on a momentary whim.

out of pique that somebody made fun of him at a comedy dinner.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:35:55am

re: #174 sagehen

out of pique that somebody made fun of him at a comedy dinner.

and in order to make him think that he is fulfilling his “promises”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:42:07am

re: #174 sagehen

out of pique that somebody made fun of him at a comedy dinner.

Exactly. He can’t bring Obama down personally, so he’s trying his utmost to destroy his legacy. It’s like a Greek tragedy, or the story of Agamemnon. It will not end well for Trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:46:47am

Market futures going down. And it looks like the markets don’t believe OPEC will curtail production; oil is down nearly 3%.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:52:38am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:55:10am

re: #121 Single-handed sailor

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Are you stupid?

Can you really be committing murder if you do it in the middle of 5th ave?

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2018 • 5:56:34am

re: #122 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Can you really commit murder if you do it on 5th Avenue?

Oh my god, almost word for word. I need to read the next couple comments before posting. But that was the first thing that came to my mind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:00:01am

re: #178 Belafon

Counter-intuitive though it may seem, Trump winning was a political disaster for the white working class, especially older whites. They were once pandered to in elections; now it’s no longer possible to indulge the pretense that their concerns are economic - or fixable

They were still pandered to, but for all the wrong reasons and with the wrong results…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:00:40am

re: #179 Eventual Carrion

Can you really be committing murder if you do it in the middle of 5th ave?

Are you really cheating on your wife if she poses for photos of you and your mistresses?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:03:10am

The irony to me is the WWC is pandered to as a group by politicians who preport to hate identity politics. It was never just white men im those steel mills and coal mines.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:03:26am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Thanks for the additional info. Wow! It appears that rightwing terrorism in western democracies is as real of a problem as that from Islamic extremists. Sigh.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:05:21am

re: #178 Belafon

Nichols is describing idiots like Ross Douthat who pine for WASPs to dominate the U.S. like they did in the “good old days”. Isn’t Trump also a WASP?

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:07:47am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So instead of assassinating archdukes, it is going to be trade disputes that trigger the next World War?

There will be something. The US has spent the last 70 years setting up various agreements under the belief that economic interconnectedness makes geopolitical sense, and then we put a guy in charge whose burning them from inside. Most of it, though, just means the US will stop being the center of them all.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:08:32am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Nichols is describing idiots like Ross Douthat who pine for WASPs to dominate the U.S. like they did in the “good old days”. Isn’t Trump also a WASP?

Yep, except he wouldn’t be invited into that club either.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:08:57am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Nichols is describing idiots like Ross Douthat who pine for WASPs to dominate the U.S. like they did in the “good old days”. Isn’t Trump also a WASP?

Technically yes but the WASPs Douhat are talking about are typically the old money set that has been in the US since the colonies and presented a veneer of civility beneath the snobbery and elitism. That’s not Trump even though he is a self proclaimed Protestant of German ancestry.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:09:30am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Nichols is describing idiots like Ross Douthat who pine for WASPs to dominate the U.S. like they did in the “good old days”. Isn’t Trump also a WASP?

Fairly recently-arrived German immigrant family, so not WASPy in the truest sense.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:10:41am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Fairly recently-arrived German immigrant family, so not WASPy in the truest sense.

Scottish speaking mother too. Thank goodness he’s not Irish.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:10:55am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s trade war continues his winning ways… debt up, exports down. Imports down.

So much winning. Not that Trump cares about the national debt (separate from the import/export debt above, which is where/how goods move to/from US); he wont be around when it really becomes a problem, and he has no interest in dealing with it either.

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Jay C  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:11:38am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Fairly recently-arrived German immigrant family, so not WASPy in the truest sense.

Not to mention the utter lack of even the pretense of “civility”.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:12:25am

re: #192 Jay C

Not to mention the utter lack of even the pretense of “civility”.

That’s the big part and not having a last name for a first and middle name. :)

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:13:08am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Jared Yates Sexton took Douhat’s idiotic defense of WASP ruling elites apart piece by piece. It’s nothing but conservatism masquerading as white nationalism and we should give white elites control for the good of everyone else, even though that’s always been to the detriment of minorities everywhere in the US.

As they say, read the whole thread.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:14:02am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

The irony to me is the WWC is pandered to as a group by politicians who preport to hate identity politics. It was never just white men im those steel mills and coal mines.

Remember, it’s not identity politics when you’re pandering to whites, they’re the default. //

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:18:24am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Nichols is describing idiots like Ross Douthat who pine for WASPs to dominate the U.S. like they did in the “good old days”. Isn’t Trump also a WASP?

White? Yes. Protestant? OK…. Anglo-Saxon? Not so much.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:19:28am

WASP I dunno brings to mind for me Cheever short stories re: #194 lawhawk

Jared Yates Sexton took Douhat’s idiotic defense of WASP ruling elites apart piece by piece. It’s nothing but conservatism masquerading as white nationalism and we should give white elites control for the good of everyone else, even though that’s always been to the detriment of minorities everywhere in the US.

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As they say, read the whole thread.

Good read. My most recent ancestor arrived in 1921- my living grandmother’s mother. A poor girl from NE Slovakia who didn’t know who her father was who stayed with her uncle and his family until she married my widower great grandfather coal miner. Their son served in WWII, youngest daughter was the valedictorian and first college graduate in the family. And my grandmother had to work as a secretary and waitress for my mom and uncle’s upbringing. Mom and I’ll always be proud of her for this has lived the dream by defining herself but she hasn’t forgotten where her family started.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:22:54am

I was telling Joe Bacon last night as both our families are Pittsburgh based originally about how it was controversial when my dad’s paternal grandparents married since Great Grandpa was a Lutheran and Great Nanna was Catholic. Dad’s own parents were from different socioeconomic backgrounds too. I’m sure their parents were fine with it but those were the kind of things not acceptable in Ross’s WASP elite ran society.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:24:16am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

WASP I dunno brings to mind for me Cheever short stories

Good read. My most recent ancestor arrived in 1921- my living grandmother’s mother. A poor girl from NE Slovakia who didn’t know who her father was who stayed with her uncle and his family until she married my widower great grandfather coal miner. Their son served in WWII, youngest daughter was the valedictorian and first college graduate in the family. And my grandmother had to work as a secretary and waitress for my mom and uncle’s upbringing. Mom and I’ll always be proud of her for this has lived the dream by defining herself but she hasn’t forgotten where her family started.

Sounds much like my family history, grandparents all arrived from Central Europe (Slovakia, Bohemia, Croatia, Hungary) around the turn of the last century. Uncles served in WW2.

Paternal grandfather went to work in the coal mines in Iowa, later moved to Gary, Indiana, where my dad rolled steel. All us kids “graduated” to a middle-class or even upper-middle-class existence in the case of my oldest brother and sister, who are millionaires.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:24:31am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:27:14am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sounds much like my family history, grandparents all arrived from Central Europe (Slovakia, Bohemia, Croatia, Hungary) around the turn of the last century. Uncles served in WW2.

Paternal grandfather went to work in the coal mines in Iowa, later moved to Gary, Indiana, where my dad rolled steel. All us kids “graduated” to a middle-class or even upper-middle-class existence in the case of my oldest brother and sister, who are millionaires.

It’s typical. GI Bill helped my Grandfather attend trade school too. If it hadn’t. Grandpa would have been a miner or steel worker, he hated working in both so he became a brick mason.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:29:21am

re: #200 lawhawk

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Who are you kidding with this Dana? And btw still waiting for your corrupt racist organization to say anything about Emantic Bradford but we know black gun owners don’t mean shit to you.

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:30:20am

The Times is an utter dumpster fire. They’ve fully embraced their role as GOP apologia organ and attack dog. Between this, Douthat’s white nationalism nostalgia tour, and their casting of Republicans as the heroes in the Wisconsin coup and other future state-level coups….yeah.

Fuck this shit.

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:33:53am

I did not know that this existed. If you tweet something and are unsure of the spelling of some word…and you use (sp?) after the word you’re unsure of, a bot will respond with possibilities.

An example:

The Twitter bot:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:33:55am

re: #203 Citizen K

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The Times is an utter dumpster fire. They’ve fully embraced their role as GOP apologia organ and attack dog. Between this, Douthat’s white nationalism nostalgia tour, and their casting of Republicans as the heroes in the Wisconsin coup and other future state-level coups….yeah.

Fuck this shit.

It is stupid. She’s actually pretty low on my candidates list but it’s pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. If you want to criticize Warren, I’d focus on that by her own admission she’s not interested in FP. You need to be engaged with FP more than ever especially with this administration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:38:06am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

It is stupid. She’s actually pretty low on my candidates list but it’s pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. If you want to criticize Warren, I’d focus on that by her own admission she’s not interested in FP. You need to be engaged with FP more than ever especially with this administration.

She is a strong woman, which makes her an inherent threat to the GOP.

It is now an article of RWNJ faith that she used her “Native American” heritage to cynically gain unfair advantage.

Pocahontas will forever haunt us.

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:40:27am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

And of course, the NYT is gleefully going after this, because even now, their takeaway from their blunders is this:

IOW, their lesson from Hillary’s Emails is ‘actually it was the most super consequential coverage ever and we should have done more of it’.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:42:33am

re: #207 Citizen K

And of course, the NYT is gleefully going after this, because even now, their takeaway from their blunders is this:

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IOW, their lesson from Hillary’s Emails is ‘actually it was the most super consequential coverage ever and we should have done more of it’.

The SCREW YORK TIMES never apologized for all the lies they printed about Al Gore in 2000.

They’re just another cog in the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine.

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:42:50am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And what’s worse is so many on our side leave with the take away of ‘we need perfect candidates, we can’t have any flawed candidates ever’. They miss the fact that this bullshit character assassination will happen to any candidate we field because there is no ‘perfect candidate’. And we’ve seen where places like the NYT will fall, where they will attack any flaw on a Dem with microscopic and obsessive precision, while folks like Trump, the Wisconsin coup-mongers, etc. will get heralded as the fucking protags of the mythical film of ‘Real America’. Constantly, and persistently.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:44:45am

re: #209 Citizen K

And what’s worse is so many on our side leave with the take away of ‘we need perfect candidates, we can’t have any flawed candidates ever’. They miss the fact that this bullshit character assassination will happen to any candidate we field because there is no ‘perfect candidate’. And we’ve seen where places like the NYT will fall, where they will attack any flaw on a Dem with microscopic and obsessive precision, while folks like Trump, the Wisconsin coup-mongers, etc. will get heralded as the fucking protags of the mythical film of ‘Real America’. Constantly, and persistently.

Here is a question I would like the answer to. Who owns the NYT, and how much money did they get due to the Trump Tax Cut for Billionaires?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:50:00am

re: #210 Big Beautiful Door

Here is a question I would like the answer to. Who owns the NYT, and how much money did they get due to the Trump Tax Cut for Billionaires?

Oh I think you answered that question. The publishers sure love those nice fat juicy tax cuts.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:54:01am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

She is a strong woman, which makes her an inherent threat to the GOP.

It is now an article of RWNJ faith that she used her “Native American” heritage to cynically gain unfair advantage.

Pocahontas will forever haunt us.

Absolutely. Just like they’re threatened by AOC’s critiques of their vision of what Capitalism is. If AOC gave the party line talk about capitalism being wonderful, she’d be celebrated instead of mocked as this stupid girl that seems to be the narrative about her rather than someone who has worked hard to where she’s gotten and yet can see the problems with our system since unlike the powers that be, she actually has an idea what’s really going on instead of an ivory tower bs by some snobby douchebag who has no idea.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 6:54:42am

re: #209 Citizen K

And what’s worse is so many on our side leave with the take away of ‘we need perfect candidates, we can’t have any flawed candidates ever’. They miss the fact that this bullshit character assassination will happen to any candidate we field because there is no ‘perfect candidate’. And we’ve seen where places like the NYT will fall, where they will attack any flaw on a Dem with microscopic and obsessive precision, while folks like Trump, the Wisconsin coup-mongers, etc. will get heralded as the fucking protags of the mythical film of ‘Real America’. Constantly, and persistently.

I just caught a piece today in the Post Op-ed section about how Beto isn’t good enough.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:00:27am

Cruz was our best bet, and will be again in 2024. He’s the slimier one of the two. Demographics will keep helping, but there are far fewer Republicans disgusted with Cornyn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:00:39am

heh

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:01:42am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Cher’s a citizen. She has just as much right as anyone to suggest a ticket.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:03:10am

One more thing about Beto, the best way to completely end his political career would be for him to lose against Cornyn. He would look like he’s perpetually running for Senate, and yet can’t win. Right now, he looks like a Democrat that almost won in Texas. Twice a loser? He’s done.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:04:05am

re: #215 Belafon

Beto will not beat Cornyn. He would be wasted here running for Senate.

Are you sure? 2020 should be another good year for Democrats nationally, and Beto has already prepared the field with his strong 2018 run, creating a statewide network of enthusiastic volunteers and strong name recognition. Point is, the Democrats would have a much better shot at winning the Senate if they won Texas, and Beto is their best shot at winning Texas, whereas there are any number of Democrats who could beat Trump. Plus Beto is young enough that he could run for President 8 years from now after gaining some valuable D.C. experience as a Senator.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:05:18am

re: #216 Belafon

Cruz was our best bet, and will be again in 2024. He’s the slimier one of the two. Demographics will keep helping, but there are far fewer Republicans disgusted with Cornyn.

Yes, I agree.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:05:34am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:06:44am

re: #219 Belafon

One more thing about Beto, the best way to completely end his political career would be for him to lose against Cornyn. He would look like he’s perpetually running for Senate, and yet can’t win. Right now, he looks like a Democrat that almost won in Texas. Twice a loser? He’s done.

I don’t think so. If he loses another close senate race, he would be a logical choice for a top Cabinet post in the next President’s Administration.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:09:41am

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:09:46am

To me the problem is self fancied progressives have unrealistic expectations of what our candidates can do. All the time I hear them say “Well why couldn’t have Obama or Clinton been more like FDR” FDR was gifited with Dem super-majorities in both legislatures since the nation blamed the Republicans for the Great Depression and honestly in some ways FDR did come up short that they ignore too. I’ll take someone who may be slightly more moderate but knows what they’re doing than a damn the torpedoes progressive type because the former is definitely going to impact more long term change. I also have seen nothing from Sanders and sad to say Warren that suggests they’d be ready for legislatures that aren’t as ready for their ideas. I still recall Bernie’s suggestion that the people would just protest the GOP Congress stopping his plans. That’s not how society works.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:12:18am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:15:28am

re: #223 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t think so. If he loses another close senate race, he would be a logical choice for a top Cabinet post in the next President’s Administration.

What would be a good cabinet job for Beto I wonder. Some are easier than others. Like if Obama hadn’t won, I think he would have made a great AG for HRC or Biden at SOS. Anyhow, I think Beto should run for President this time. Failing that, give a run against Cornyn a try.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:18:38am
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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:18:59am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

To me the problem is self fancied progressives have unrealistic expectations of what our candidates can do. All the time I hear them say “Well why couldn’t have Obama or Clinton been more like FDR” FDR was gifited with Dem super-majorities in both legislatures since the nation blamed the Republicans for the Great Depression and honestly in some ways FDR did come up short that they ignore too. I’ll take someone who may be slightly more moderate but knows what they’re doing than a damn the torpedoes progressive type because the former is definitely going to impact more long term change. I also have seen nothing from Sanders and sad to say Warren that suggests they’d be ready for legislatures that aren’t as ready for their ideas. I still recall Bernie’s suggestion that the people would just protest the GOP Congress stopping his plans. That’s not how society works.

And people have protested Congress doing stuff….and….Republicans have done it anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:19:28am

PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!!!111!!!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:19:32am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No. Shit. Protectionism doesn’t work. And this is a lesson to those who didn’t know shit about the TPP buying Trump and Sanders’ bs on it hook, line, and sinker.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:19:38am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:19:49am

re: #229 Belafon

And people have protested Congress doing stuff….and….Republicans have done it anyway.

*Cough Kavanaugh*.

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plansbandc  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:21:40am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

The good news here is he’s actually talking about a future President.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:21:45am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You haven’t accomplished anything that McConnell didn’t gift wrap for you. Stop crying about your approval rating. You’re the worst president we’ve ever had because you’re an anti-democratic piece of trash who doesn’t know how to respond to criticism. You act like we’re your little fiefdom and anyone that dare criticize brave King Donald isn’t worthy. Piss off, wanker.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:22:00am

re: #220 Big Beautiful Door

Are you sure? 2020 should be another good year for Democrats nationally, and Beto has already prepared the field with his strong 2018 run, creating a statewide network of enthusiastic volunteers and strong name recognition. Point is, the Democrats would have a much better shot at winning the Senate if they won Texas, and Beto is their best shot at winning Texas, whereas there are any number of Democrats who could beat Trump. Plus Beto is young enough that he could run for President 8 years from now after gaining some valuable D.C. experience as a Senator.

Cruz is not liked here. He just happened to be the incumbant with the R next to his name. There were a lot of Republicans that crossed over because Cruz sucks so bad, but not enough. There were plenty of people on my Facebook timeline, including my brother, who had plenty of justifications for voting against Beto, including that he’s supported by Pelosi and coastal liberals.

Unless the GOP sends us into another Depression, Cornyn will not lose.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:22:45am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It may be working for him on a personal level since he’s treating the office of President as a grifting mechanism to increase his wealth (and that of his family and rich buddies). I really don’t believe that Trump gives a dang about America. He’ll claim that news of a record breaking deficit is “fake news” and keep it moving.

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:27:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:29:48am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Without the phony Russia Witch Hunt, and with all that we have accomplished in the last almost two years (Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judge’s, Military, Vets, etc.) my approval rating would be at 75% rather than the 50% just reported by Rasmussen. It’s called Presidential Harassment!

What did you call it when you accused Obama of being a foreigner with a forged birth certificate?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:29:51am

re: #236 Belafon

Cruz is not liked here. He just happened to be the incumbant with the R next to his name. There were a lot of Republicans that crossed over because Cruz sucks so bad, but not enough. There were plenty of people on my Facebook timeline, including my brother, who had plenty of justifications for voting against Beto, including that he’s supported by Pelosi and coastal liberals.

Unless the GOP sends us into another Depression, Cornyn will not lose.

I do hope though that a good candidate is found to run against Cornyn and you’re going to need someone to run against Governor TCOT or his slimey Lt Governor in 2022.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:30:42am

re: #236 Belafon

Cruz is not liked here. He just happened to be the incumbant with the R next to his name. There were a lot of Republicans that crossed over because Cruz sucks so bad, but not enough. There were plenty of people on my Facebook timeline, including my brother, who had plenty of justifications for voting against Beto, including that he’s supported by Pelosi and coastal liberals.

Unless the GOP sends us into another Depression, Cornyn will not lose.

You know Texas politics better than I do, and I think Beto has got the presidential bug anyway.

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:31:41am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:34:12am

re: #241 Big Beautiful Door

You know Texas politics better than I do, and I think Beto has got the presidential bug anyway.

Beto’s compared to Obama but TBH he reminds me of RFK more. That could be confirmation bias since Beto is also Robert Francis “Irish surname” and I think they have similar goofy smiles and will be fairly young should they run. I think he is going to run. Part of the knock on Reps running for President is their profiles aren’t that high but Beto definitely has the name recon that your average former three termer would not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:34:31am

re: #242 jeffreyw

It is for real:

amazon.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:35:37am

I really like the idea of a Westerner paired with someone from the Midwest as the ticket TBH. Looking back on it and it pains me saying this since I adore Tim Kaine but maybe HRC would have been better off going with Sherrod Brown as her running mate.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:36:39am

I really like Senator Brown since he’s able to communicate the concerns of Rust Belt communities without dismissing other ones like someone else we know and as OA has pointed out, he’s lived it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:36:53am

lol

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jeffreyw  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:38:19am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is for real:

amazon.com

Somehow, it never occured to me to run a search for fishless tuna, although a search for fishless fish would probably have returned that result.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:39:07am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

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We’re dealing with a President that has the maturity of a three year old upset that his new baby brother is getting mom and dad’s attention more. God he’s such a fucking ass. I certainly don’t recall Clinton complaining when Nixon died or Bush when Reagan and Ford died.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:40:55am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

“It’s amazing how great I’ve been what with all these diversions and ceremonies and nobody paying attention to me. Nobody’s talking about that. Not many people know that.”

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:42:26am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

He seems to have really taken yesterday’s memorials to heart.

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plansbandc  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:43:34am

Fifty percent approval? Uh, OK. Last I saw it was 38.

Have I sad lately how much I despise him? Because I really really do.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:44:42am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

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Wow. Proud of himself because he managed not to throw a temper tantrum during a funeral? I wonder if he’s potty trained yet?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:45:04am

re: #252 plansbandc

Fifty percent approval? Uh, OK. Last I saw it was 38.

Have I sad lately how much I despise him? Because I really really do.

Rasmussen. They’re the Republican version of “Yeah, yeah I know you failed the test” but boys will be boys.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:45:34am

re: #253 Big Beautiful Door

Wow. Proud of himself because he managed not to throw a temper tantrum during a funeral? I wonder if he’s potty trained yet?

Kellyanne probably knows. Let’s ask George.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:46:44am

re: #252 plansbandc

Fifty percent approval? Uh, OK. Last I saw it was 38.

Have I sad lately how much I despise him? Because I really really do.

Its Rasmussen. The same poll said the GOP would win the national congressional vote by a one point margin. That was only off by 9.5 points.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:49:13am

I mean. This really is what makes Trump unique. An inability to even function like a normal human being. No, Donald, we’re not going to give you praise because you didn’t act out at a Presidential funeral. You want to be treated like this great President, actually hold yourselves to some Presidential standards rather than having a lower standard for yourself than my brother and his wife give their daughter.

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:50:00am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:50:57am

re: #252 plansbandc

Fifty percent approval? Uh, OK. Last I saw it was 38.

Have I sad lately how much I despise him? Because I really really do.

“It would be 50 hundred percent if not for all the harassment presidential Harassment and illegal hoax investigations of Me.”

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plansbandc  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:52:19am

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:53:19am

re: #260 plansbandc

Do you like my scent?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:54:32am

Got his phone back & now he’s rage-tweeting up a storm:

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:55:58am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Got his phone back & now he’s rage-tweeting up a storm:

He also doesn’t understand this country. He wouldn’t be above 50 without the Russian crap. He lost the popular vote.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2018 • 7:56:28am

My nominee for Christmas song Cover of the Year…

Small Town Titans - “You’re A Mean One, Mr. Grinch”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:01:47am

O Twitter, hardly deserve ya…

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:04:06am

re: #265 I Would Prefer Not To

O Twitter, hardly deserve ya…

That showed up first sometime in October. My sister-in-law wasn’t amused because she doesn’t like Hillary.

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plansbandc  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:05:40am

re: #264 makeitstop

Now I want to listen to all the things from this band. :D

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:09:46am
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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:10:04am

re: #267 plansbandc

Now I want to listen to all the things from this band. :D

They’re pretty good! I’ve been listening. I recommend ‘Junkie For You.’ Dunno who that guy’s voice reminds me of, but he sounds familiar.

Small Town Titans - Junkie For You (Hey Mama) Official Lyric Video

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:11:29am
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bd(Redacted)  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:12:18am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:14:13am

Cheezus

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:17:09am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

Cheezus

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Holy smokes

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:19:25am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

The GOP folks.

White nationalists.
Excuses goddamned fucking Nazis thanks to Trump on down.
Engages in anti-Semitic tropes and smears from Trump on down, including Gohmert.

These fuckers aren’t hiding their conspiracy nuts anymore. They’re out in the open and running the GOP. No one in the GOP seems to know/care/bother anymore in hiding the bigot brigade. They are the bigot brigade. They’re spewing anti-Semitic crap.

The media gives them a pass, but we’re supposed to think Warren’s DNA test is a big deal? Or that Douhat isn’t anything other than a white nationalist who has a platform at the NYT to spew his bile at the public where it gains traction among the very white nationalists who want to make sure that the nation is run by whites and for whites (aka white fucking nationalists whose support for Trump is already well known).

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:20:13am

re: #154 DodgerFan1988

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Putting George Bush’s legacy in perspective.

Another G H W Bush mess that not many mention is his involvement in Reagan’s Iran Contra sham.

Before he was VP he was the head of the CIA ferchristsakes!

Yet he ran saying he never knew anything about it, but I think it came out in his own writings that he was fully familiar. He lied.

Then to make it worse…during his last days in office he pardoned several of the players.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:20:19am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

GOHMERT: And furthermore, Stuart, as you can read in a shocking book called “Protocols of the Elders of Zion..

I have a buddy who would not stop going on about the PotEoZ…

…had a buddy.

There are limits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:22:32am

re: #275 ObserverArt

Another G H W Bush mess that not many mention is his involvement in Reagan’s Iran Contra sham.

Didn’t he claim to be asleep or something during the security briefing?

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:24:48am

re: #169 Patricia Kayden

This has gone completely under the radar.

Denise Oliver-Velez
@Deoliver47
How long do Puerto Ricans have to wait to get roofs instead of blue tarps? When will Vieques have full power instead of back-up generators? #TrumpsKatrina It has been 441 days since Puerto Rico had full power. interactive.nydailynews.com … via @NYDNi

5:14 AM - Dec 6, 2018

Last time I talked to my friend on Vieques she said those generators are not reliable and they often shut down. People cannot count on anything as far as power.

She said many people have left the island and will probably never come back.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:24:50am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

Cheezus

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Fucking asshole.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:25:02am

Jesus, ANOTHER 700 point kick in the nuts for the stock market.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:26:03am

re: #278 ObserverArt

Last time I talked to my friend on Vieques she said those generators are not reliable and they often shut down. People cannot count on anything as far as power.

She said many people have left the island and will probably never come back.

Let them all move to the mainland where they can vote…

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:28:02am

re: #280 Sufficient unto the day…

Jesus, ANOTHER 700 point kick in the nuts for the stock market.

And that was after a day to think about it.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:28:17am

re: #280 Sufficient unto the day…

Jesus, ANOTHER 700 point kick in the nuts for the stock market.

We’re nearing a 10% correction from the YTD high.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:28:27am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Nichols is describing idiots like Ross Douthat who pine for WASPs to dominate the U.S. like they did in the “good old days”. Isn’t Trump also a WASP?

If WASP means…

White
Asshole
Sucks
(as)
President.

Yes!

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garzooma  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:31:24am

re: #169 Patricia Kayden

This has gone completely under the radar.

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How long do Puerto Ricans have to wait to get roofs instead of blue tarps? When will Vieques have full power instead of back-up generators?

In other news, the World Champion Red Sox will visit Trump at the White House. Their manager is from Puerto Rico.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:31:32am

I am afraid to look at my Vanguard account.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:32:04am

re: #218 Belafon

Cher’s a citizen. She has just as much right as anyone to suggest a ticket.

Cher used to be married to someone who later became a house rep from Cali.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:33:12am

The Dow is shitting the bed again in late morning trading: -731.00 (-2.92%). The Donnie Economy is in full swing.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:33:55am

It’s funny that people still complain about celebs uttering political opinions when we have a celebrity as President

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:34:20am

BTW, Queen is going on another US tour next year. Pre-sale tickets dropped this morning. Use presale code: QALNATOUR19

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:34:42am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

It’s funny that people still complain about celebs uttering political opinions when we have a celebrity as President

They only complain when the celeb is on the other side of their political opinion.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:34:55am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

It is stupid. She’s actually pretty low on my candidates list but it’s pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. If you want to criticize Warren, I’d focus on that by her own admission she’s not interested in FP. You need to be engaged with FP more than ever especially with this administration.

How can you be good at economic policy if you are not interested in foreign policy?

It is a world economy. Good relations with foreign countries ties into the world economy which has direct influence on the USA.

The more I learn about Warren, the less I think she would make a good president. I think she should stick as a senator where she can specialize.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:34:55am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:35:28am

re: #292 ObserverArt

How can you be good at economic policy if you are not interested in foreign policy?

It is a world economy. Good relations with foreign countries ties into the world economy which has direct influence on the USA.

The more I learn about Warren, the less I think she would make a good president. I think she should stick as a senator where she can specialize.

Agreed

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:36:18am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

GOHMERT: And furthermore, Stuart, as you can read in a shocking book called “Protocols of the Elders of Zion…*thirty seconds of unintelligible gurgling*

VARNEY: Thank you, congressman, but the question was about who you’re rooting for in the Cotton Bowl.
— Gary Legum

Parody, right? No?

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:36:41am

re: #288 Dr. Matt

The Dow is shitting the bed again in late morning trading: -731.00 (-2.92%). The Donnie Economy is in full swing.

It’s ok, we’ll just declare bankruptcy and start over. The chumps left holding the bag are nothing but a bunch of suckers.

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plansbandc  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:37:09am

re: #290 Dr. Matt

I wish Paul Rodgers was still singing with them. Adam Lambert’s voice ruins my eardrums.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:37:10am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

It’s funny that people still complain about celebs uttering political opinions when we have a celebrity as President

Donny is different because

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:38:12am

re: #296 bd(Redacted)

It’s ok, we’ll just declare bankruptcy and start over. The chumps left holding the bag are nothing but a bunch of suckers.

Trump’s grand plan to make America great again.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:39:40am

re: #297 plansbandc

I wish Paul Rodgers was still singing with them. Adam Lambert’s voice ruins my eardrums.

I saw them 4+ years ago. I didn’t think he was that terrible. Seeing Dr. Brian May in person is worth the price of admission alone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:40:25am

re: #293 Dave In Austin

not so much a matter of animal rights as of human decency

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:41:57am

re: #296 bd(Redacted)

It’s ok, we’ll just declare bankruptcy and start over. The chumps left holding the bag are nothing but a bunch of suckers.

When the economy shit the bed under dubyah, my favorite wingnut response was: This is awesome, now it’s cheaper to buy stock!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:42:32am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not so much a matter of animal rights as of human decency

I would consider this a career limiting Tweet.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:45:47am

re: #210 Big Beautiful Door

Here is a question I would like the answer to. Who owns the NYT, and how much money did they get due to the Trump Tax Cut for Billionaires?

I don’t know if he is the owner, but Mexican money man Carlos Slim put a big pile of bucks into them back at the turn of the decade. I think it is still owned by the original Ochs family but it does have some stock. Not sure how that works.

In my opinion I think they see conservative wingnuts as a stable business model but try to play both sides because they just want to make money. I do get the feeling they think pissing off liberals is also a money-maker.

Too many liberals are all in and read it, so they must think they have them locked up and they can take it.

They get the conservatives by pandering to them in the ways we see. Conservatives have always mistakenly called it a liberal paper. So, it must work for them to play both sides.

News and good opinion and editorial is the last thing they care about. Dollars is number one.

And remember, they were dying, but somehow the election coverage of 2015 through 2016 brought a lot of new subscribers. I wouldn’t know why, but it did.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:52:02am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

I mean, for ME, when I was 25-33, that was kinda my thought process as well. That doesn’t change the fact that it was a clusterfuck of epic proportions for the entire country, just that it worked out well for me.

Now that I’m 43+, a cratering market works out a bit less well for me.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:53:57am

re: #203 Citizen K

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The Times is an utter dumpster fire. They’ve fully embraced their role as GOP apologia organ and attack dog. Between this, Douthat’s white nationalism nostalgia tour, and their casting of Republicans as the heroes in the Wisconsin coup and other future state-level coups….yeah.

Fuck this shit.

I missed that. What article supported the Wisconsin coup?

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:54:38am

Even when they lose, the GOP win because they get to make all the fucking rules and we can’t seem to do shit about it because again, they get to make all the fucking rules.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:55:07am

re: #285 garzooma

He should bring up the continuing crisis in Puerto Rico then.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:56:50am

re: #306 Hecuba’s daughter

I missed that. What article supported the Wisconsin coup?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:56:52am

re: #288 Dr. Matt

The Dow is shitting the bed again in late morning trading: -731.00 (-2.92%). The Donnie Economy is in full swing.

Thanks Trump! Winning!!

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Citizen K  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:57:14am

re: #306 Hecuba’s daughter

They changed the headline later, but still try to distill it into ‘politics as usual’ to give the GOP cover.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:59:27am
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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:59:49am

re: #252 plansbandc

Fifty percent approval? Uh, OK. Last I saw it was 38.

Have I sad lately how much I despise him? Because I really really do.

Rasmussen polls. Take 8 points off for conservative bias and he is already down to 42%.

In other words…go with the 38%. And that is probably too high too.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 8:59:54am

re: #248 jeffreyw

Somehow, it never occured to me to run a search for fishless tuna, although a search for fishless fish would probably have returned that result.

There used to be a Japanese condom called “Skinless Skin.”

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:01:40am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Without the phony Russia Witch Hunt, and with all that we have accomplished in the last almost two years (Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judge’s, Military, Vets, etc.) my approval rating would be at 75% rather than the 50% just reported by Rasmussen. It’s called Presidential Harassment!

yeah, this is how an adult behaves. let alone “president of the united states”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:01:44am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:02:35am

re: #313 ObserverArt

Rasmussen polls. Take 8 points off for conservative bias and he is already down to 42%.

In other words…go with the 38%. And that is probably too high too.

Nate Silver after aggregating the polls and giving them proper weight (Rasmussen, for example, isn’t a high quality pollster) has Trump’s approval at about 42%; its barely budged for months.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:05:32am

re: #305 Sufficient unto the day…

I mean, for ME, when I was 25-33, that was kinda my thought process as well. That doesn’t change the fact that it was a clusterfuck of epic proportions for the entire country, just that it worked out well for me.

Now that I’m 43+, a cratering market works out a bit less well for me.

“…the fact that it was a clusterfuck of epic proportions for the entire country world…”

When the US economy crashes, most of the planet is impacted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:06:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:08:19am

GOP just wants to burn down everything everywhere on their way out

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:09:45am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Didn’t he claim to be asleep or something during the security briefing?

Heh, I hadn’t heard that one. But it wouldn’t surprise me. I think Bush 1 often hid behind his “look” of being a bit nerdy, etc. So, that may have worked for him.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:09:52am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

He sat hunched over in the pew like an elderly Yeti that’s never been indoors. But, sure, yeah, he didn’t hump the casket or giggle every time the word “Bush” was spoken, so…presidential?

spinners gotta spin

a more sober interpretation from washpo

When the others sang an opening hymn, his mouth did not move. When the others read the Apostles’ Creed, he stood stoically. And when one eulogist after another testified to George H.W. Bush’s integrity and character and honesty and bravery and compassion, Trump sat and listened, often with his lips pursed and his arms crossed over his chest.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:10:20am

re: #317 Big Beautiful Door

Nate Silver after aggregating the polls and giving them proper weight (Rasmussen, for example, isn’t a high quality pollster) has Trump’s approval at about 42%; its barely budged for months.

42% support for this monster is way too high. Maybe this indicates that Douthat is somewhat correct: the reason that so many love Trump is that their ideal leader is a WASP male and they were tired of having a President who was educated and knowledgeable but clearly not white and they certainly didn’t want him to be followed by a female.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:10:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:13:21am
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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:13:31am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

#OTD In 1957, America’s first attempt at putting a satellite into orbit blew up on the launch pad at Cape Canaveral, Fla.

in 2018 ‘we’ are able to land and reuse booster rockets

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:14:39am

re: #313 ObserverArt

Rasmussen polls. Take 8 points off for conservative bias and he is already down to 42%.

In other words…go with the 38%. And that is probably too high too.

Yeah, with any Rasmussen poll, take off 10% to 15% and you’ll get a fairly accurate reading.

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:15:42am

re: #292 ObserverArt

How can you be good at economic policy if you are not interested in foreign policy?

It is a world economy. Good relations with foreign countries ties into the world economy which has direct influence on the USA.

The more I learn about Warren, the less I think she would make a good president. I think she should stick as a senator where she can specialize.

I think she’d be a good choice to head the SEC.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:16:32am

re: #328 sagehen

I think she’d be a good choice to head the SEC.

I think so too. She’s smart. I just don’t know if she shtbe running the entire thing.

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:18:43am

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Jay C  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:20:40am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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re: #326 dangerman

The start of the “Space Race”, AKA “Sputnik Shock” - when the starter’s gun went off, we were still looking around to see where the shot came from, while the Soviets were halfway down the track
And the Vanguard failure was the equivalent of tripping over the starting block and falling face-down …

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:20:48am

from yesterday a public service lgf

if you have a chance go to missingmoney.com and do a couple of quick searchs

while everybody hasn’t necessarily lost something, interest things do show up, (ie things you didnt know you lost or were due to you)

tax refunds
unused gift cards
utility and other deposit refunds
sometimes insurance refunds
lost paychecks (how can that happen? lots of ways)
escrow checks
undeposited checks

if i told you how much money i have ‘found’ (and collected) for clients and family over the last 15 years, (in number of items and total dollars) you would call me a liar.

even when you think you’ve found it all, new stuff pops up all the time. that’s due to statutes of limitations and how long a company can or must hold onto an item before turning it over to the state

these days i have a list of names i check every 4-6 months.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:20:59am

re: #328 sagehen

I think she’d be a good choice to head the SEC.

That would be a great job for her.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:22:51am

re: #330 mmmirele

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:23:03am

re: #330 mmmirele

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VegasGolfer  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:23:57am

re: #332 dangerman

from yesterday a public service lgf

if you have a chance go to missingmoney.com and do a couple of quick searchs

while everybody hasn’t necessarily lost something, interest things do show up, (ie things you didnt know you lost or were due to you)

tax refunds
unused gift cards
utility and other deposit refunds
sometimes insurance refunds
lost paychecks (how can that happen? lots of ways)
escrow checks
undeposited checks

if i told you how much money i have ‘found’ (and collected) for clients and family over the last 15 years, (in number of items and total dollars) you would call me a liar.

even when you think you’ve found it all, new stuff pops up all the time. that’s due to statutes of limitations and how long a company can or must hold onto an item before turning it over to the state

these days i have a list of names i check every 4-6 months.

Thanks, went to it yesterday, I have just under 1K coming back.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:24:13am

re: #330 mmmirele

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:28:46am

re: #332 dangerman

There were over 200 responses for my name. I put in my state and middle initial and got it down to 10. No me. Do I get a tiny percentage for being close?

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nines09  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:36:45am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:36:58am

re: #338 wrenchwench

There were over 200 responses for my name. I put in my state and middle initial and got it down to 10. No me. Do I get a tiny percentage for being close?

Only in horseshoes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:38:23am

re: #340 Big Beautiful Door

Only in horseshoes.

and hand grenades

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:38:50am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

and hand grenades

Nuclear weapons.

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:39:09am

re: #340 Big Beautiful Door

Only in horseshoes.

My horseshoes don’t fit any more. Darn!

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Dizzy  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:39:57am
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CleverToad  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:40:43am

re: #332 dangerman

from yesterday a public service lgf

if you have a chance go to missingmoney.com and do a couple of quick searchs

Thank you very much for the PSA!
Haven’t searched on my name or my husband’s yet, but I did a search on my mom, who was notoriously disorganized before I inherited the task of paying her bills. Now I have to wade through a bunch of old financial papers and see if I can find any account information or paperwork from AG Edwards (defunct, acq by Wachovia, acq by Wells Fargo) to prove she had an account of some sort there. Supposedly about $1800 in unclaimed dividends dating back to 2006. W-F is being thoroughly unhelpful, but for that amount it’s worth digging…

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:44:10am

re: #345 CleverToad

Good idea! My mom’s name is very unusual, but a.) she’s still alive, and b.) 2 of my 6 siblings live closer to her than I do.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:45:50am

This is the worst thing I’ve ever seen and remember I’ve been to Palmdale.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:47:00am

re: #332 dangerman

Thank you for the reminder!! 6 months ago I discovered that a couple of my accounts were forfeited to the state due to my failure to follow up on a communication but now that I am finally retired and will soon have some time, I will be trying at last to recover the money.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:49:18am

re: #332 dangerman

from yesterday a public service lgf

if you have a chance go to missingmoney.com and do a couple of quick searchs

while everybody hasn’t necessarily lost something, interest things do show up, (ie things you didnt know you lost or were due to you)

tax refunds
unused gift cards
utility and other deposit refunds
sometimes insurance refunds
lost paychecks (how can that happen? lots of ways)
escrow checks
undeposited checks

if i told you how much money i have ‘found’ (and collected) for clients and family over the last 15 years, (in number of items and total dollars) you would call me a liar.

even when you think you’ve found it all, new stuff pops up all the time. that’s due to statutes of limitations and how long a company can or must hold onto an item before turning it over to the state

these days i have a list of names i check every 4-6 months.

Heh, I checked that on a lark and I think I may be on there.

I need to check further with the state of Ohio because there is no address associated with the listings.

It said the address is “not disclosed” but the companies are ones I have dealt with. And my name is unique enough in that I do not have a middle name and that is how they are listed.

So, I will dig in and see what’s up.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:49:31am

re: #336 VegasGolfer

Thanks, went to it yesterday, I have just under 1K coming back.

my work here is done
(who was that masked man?)

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:49:54am

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

This is the worst thing I’ve ever seen and remember I’ve been to Palmdale.

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Now I’m getting into the holiday spirit…..

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:51:01am

re: #350 dangerman

my work here is done
(who was that masked man?)

Its not Tariff man!

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:51:36am

re: #332 dangerman

I found that my deceased brother is owed some money by a utility. Probably not worth a lot of trouble, even if I could access it. Is it even possible?

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:51:42am

re: #338 wrenchwench

There were over 200 responses for my name. I put in my state and middle initial and got it down to 10. No me. Do I get a tiny percentage for being close?

a participation prize, sure: the satisfaction that you haven’t lost track of any of your assets

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:53:00am

re: #340 Big Beautiful Door

Only in horseshoes.

archery

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:53:05am

re: #349 ObserverArt

Heh, I checked that on a lark and I think I may be on there.

I need to check further with the state of Ohio because there is no address associated with the listings.

It said the address is “not disclosed” but the companies are ones I have dealt with. And my name is unique enough in that I do not have a middle name and that is how they are listed.

So, I will dig in and see what’s up.

My older brother abandoned his middle name (he didn’t like it, everyone in my familiy has done something to their name) now it often appears as ‘NMN’ (no middle name). I first saw that on his draft card.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:54:21am

re: #344 Dizzy

YES! This!

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:56:07am

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

This is the worst thing I’ve ever seen and remember I’ve been to Palmdale.

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Hey! I’ve got good friends that live in Palmdale! What did it every do to you?

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:57:27am

re: #353 retired cynic

I found that my deceased brother is owed some money by a utility. Probably not worth a lot of trouble, even if I could access it. Is it even possible?

an heir or executor (sometimes a relative) can
give it a try - it’s not too difficult

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:57:50am

re: #353 retired cynic

I found that my deceased brother is owed some money by a utility. Probably not worth a lot of trouble, even if I could access it. Is it even possible?

If you’re the executor/admin for his estate, it would be in your interest to get more information. It could be a refund for overpayment on utilities paid.

The estate is entitled to those funds - which would then be distributed to the beneficiaries as per will or under state law (if no will).

Claiming funds is actually fairly straight forward - you have to show you’re the person entitled to the funds (or the estate, beneficiaries, heirs, etc. are). States are supposed to hold these funds as a fiduciary.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:58:28am

re: #356 wrenchwench

My older brother abandoned his middle name (he didn’t like it, everyone in my familiy has done something to their name) now it often appears as ‘NMN’ (no middle name). I first saw that on his draft card.

My parents never gave me a middle name. So I too have a few documents with (NMN or NMI no middle initial).

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:59:18am

re: #359 dangerman

an heir or executor (sometimes a relative) can
give it a try - it’s not too difficult

I’m an heir, but the executor is his girlfriend, who is a B%^&**, and a large part why he committed suicide. Will check into it, I guess.

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 9:59:32am

It’s GOHMERT!, y’all:

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:01:35am

re: #121 Single-handed sailor

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Are you stupid?

Can you really murder someone if you are not doing it secretly?

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:01:36am

re: #361 ObserverArt

My parents never gave me a middle name. So I too have a few documents with (NMN or NMI no middle initial).

NMI sounds cool. Too bad they don’t stick it on the end where it could be mistaken for a degree.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:02:11am

re: #363 Lidane

Where have you been?

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:03:36am

One of my coworkers asked me if I was keeping track of the NC-9 Mark Harris vote stealing scandal. I wasn’t going to bring it up to her because she’s very conservative. But she is in his district, so I asked her if she thought it looked shady.

She thinks it does.

Harris has problems, real problems, if even a conservative R in his district think something shady went down.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:03:37am

re: #363 Lidane

It’s GOHMERT!, y’all:

Louie further proves that GOP/Nazis hate Jews and will make up lies to demonize them. Fucking asshole.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:04:33am

re: #358 retired cynic

Hey! I’ve got good friends that live in Palmdale! What did it every do to you?

Palmdale knows what it did.

Afroman - Palmdale (DIRTY VERSION) w Lyrics

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:05:20am

re: #363 Lidane

It’s GOHMERT!, y’all:

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Funny Louie because American Jews judging by their voting patterns agree more with George Soros than Sheldon Adelson but you don’t see them denying he’s Jewish in a pathetic crap libel.

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:09:31am

re: #366 Ace Rothstein

Where have you been?

Working mostly. It’s been a very long and very eventful year. But I’ll be around more often. I’m in a position now at work where I’m expected to be online all the time, so posting from work will be a real thing again. Haha.

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:10:46am

re: #367 mmmirele

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:10:51am

re: #367 mmmirele

One of my coworkers asked me if I was keeping track of the NC-9 Mark Harris vote stealing scandal. I wasn’t going to bring it up to her because she’s very conservative. But she is in his district, so I asked her if she thought it looked shady.

She thinks it does.

Harris has problems, real problems, if even a conservative R in his district think something shady went down.

Harris may have pulled the same stunt against his Republican rival(the incumbent Congressman) in the primary so it isn’t surprising that she may object to what happened.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:11:00am

The eggs don’t stick but my weiner is smaller.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:12:47am

he’s only just now hearing about this?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:12:49am

re: #374 Amory Blaine

The eggs don’t stick but my weiner is smaller.

“Is that a Vienna Sausage or are you just happy to see me?”

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gwangung  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:13:07am

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

Harris may have pulled the same stunt against his Republican rival(the incumbent Congressman) in the primary so it isn’t surprising that she may object to what happened.

Any honest Republican should feel that.

But I’m not so sure that they make up a majority of the party anymore…

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:13:46am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s only just now hearing about this?

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He was busy being sedated yesterday so he could act like a big boy at the funeral… and it’s not like he reads his PDB

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:14:17am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:16:17am

re: #379 gocart mozart

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Good God Washington Post; he manages to not crap himself in public for one day, and you use that as an excuse to trumpet the pivot again? Have you learned nothing over the last 2 years?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:17:28am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:17:29am

re: #379 gocart mozart

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There were days when Caligula acted normal too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:18:15am

re: #380 Big Beautiful Door

Good God Washington Post; he manages to not crap himself in public for one day, and you use that as an excuse to trumpet the pivot again? Have you learned nothing over the last 2 years?

It’s a satiric piece.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:18:35am

I read up about Harris. Bet he claims he did it for Jesus if he admits it.

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garzooma  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:18:51am

re: #380 Big Beautiful Door

Good God Washington Post; he manages to not crap himself in public for one day, and you use that as an excuse to trumpet the pivot again? Have you learned nothing over the last 2 years?

From the article:

During the stated time, several bats flew by the window and Trump did not bite their heads off

I think we can call this satire.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:19:01am

re: #361 ObserverArt

My parents never gave me a middle name. So I too have a few documents with (NMN or NMI no middle initial).

i dont have one either and have never had to encounter nmi

interesting that it takes three letters to document that there isnt one letter

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:19:16am

re: #383 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s a satiric piece.

Yeah I actually thought so but wasn’t sure who it was. Alexandra Petri is WaPo’s snark sarcastic op-ed writer.

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:19:41am

re: #386 dangerman

i dont have one either and have never had to encounter nmi

interesting that it takes three letters to document that there isnt one letter

They should use the 27th letter of the alphabet, “_”.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:19:44am

re: #332 dangerman

if i told you how much money i have ‘found’ (and collected) for clients and family over the last 15 years, (in number of items and total dollars) you would call me a liar

I just found something from Amazon for me and a twenty year old bank account for my wife. No idea yet what either one is worth. Very cool, though.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:19:54am

re: #383 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s a satiric piece.

OK, I didn’t look because of the Post paywall.

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:19:56am

Shot:

Chaser:

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:20:00am

re: #367 mmmirele

One of my coworkers asked me if I was keeping track of the NC-9 Mark Harris vote stealing scandal. I wasn’t going to bring it up to her because she’s very conservative. But she is in his district, so I asked her if she thought it looked shady.

She thinks it does.

Harris has problems, real problems, if even a conservative R in his district think something shady went down.

i am waiting to hear the contorted explanations / spin

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:20:00am

re: #380 Big Beautiful Door

Good God Washington Post; he manages to not crap himself in public for one day, and you use that as an excuse to trumpet the pivot again? Have you learned nothing over the last 2 years?

No.

The WaPo and NYT and other national press are so eager to try and claim Trump’s somehow turned presidential by sitting through a goddamned single funeral for a former president, that they can’t be bothered to see the forest through the trees. They ignore that Trump’s off his rocker and spewing nonsense on Twitter daily (including today), which shows he’s no more presidential than he was on day 1 - and if anything, he’s less so because no one around him is willing or able to tell him anything other than what he wants to hear, rather than what he needs to know.

The media continues to lavish benefits to Trump that he doesn’t deserve or dignify, mostly because he doesn’t dignify the office he holds, and can’t be bothered to do his job or care about the details. No one else in his admin cares about the details either, and everyone right now is concerned mostly about who else in Trumpworld gets indicted and who’s sold out whom to Mueller and other prosecutors across the nation because of the rampant criminality Trump brought with him into the WH.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:20:14am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’ve spent the past 38 years destroying unions; why would they invite even a toothless puppet labor leader to this? You’re supposed to be good little peons and do what your told to, not, you know be like AO-C and actually think about policy.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:21:56am

I didn’t know my Nana- Dad’s mom had a middle name until after she died. Funnily enough, it’s the female version of my one grandfather’s middle name. Another aunt i discovered she was actually named after her mother and grandmother rather than the name she used. Seems that the naming kids after people occurs more with the early kids than later kids. I’m named after my grandfathers whereas my closest brother in age wasn’t named after anyone but then again my youngest brother was named after my uncles.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:22:23am

re: #391 Lidane

Hyenia: I expect the lion to kill the zebra

Zebra: I don’t expect the lion to kill me

Lion: (smiles)

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:22:30am

re: #380 Big Beautiful Door

It’s satire by Alexandra Petri, America’s greatest living satirist.

The president has been shockingly presidential for the last six minutes

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:22:38am

re: #391 Lidane

Shot:

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A lot changes in two months I guess. Lumpy will probably tell the good viewers of FNC that Trump Jr should win a NObel.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:22:51am

Though there are several hours left of trading, the Dow has dropped to the same level it was 12 months ago. #winning

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:23:24am
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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:23:52am

re: #380 Big Beautiful Door

Good God Washington Post; he manages to not crap himself in public for one day, and you use that as an excuse to trumpet the pivot again? Have you learned nothing over the last 2 years?

you gotta read it…

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:23:54am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

Yeah I actually thought so but wasn’t sure who it was. Alexandra Petri is WaPo’s snark sarcastic op-ed writer.

Several weeks ago some lizards were ensnared by her article on (I think) Pelosi; unless you are familiar with an author, it can be easy to mistake snark for real views.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:24:11am

This is an example of ‘liberal tears’ that the right wing loves to mock. If you read the actual story (which almost nobody seems to have done) you see the problem very quickly:

The homeless guy engaged in petty theft of underwear getting a ridiculous ten year sentence? Outrageous!

Wait a minute…he brandished a knife and threatened store clerks…

The tweet kinda leaves the armed robbery part of the story out.

Always read the whole story. Armed robbery will get you ten years hard time, even if the store employees were not particularly frightened. I can’t say I feel sympathy for this guy.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:24:47am

That’s been the problem since Reagan. ideally and I say this as someone pro labor but you want government to act as a broker between management and labor but ever since Reagan, it’s been favoring management and I think my grandfather who worked at the NLRB for many years saw this coming with Reagan’s rise in the mid 70’s.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:24:48am

re: #401 dangerman

you gotta read it…

I did now, funny!

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:25:19am

re: #390 Big Beautiful Door

OK, I didn’t look because of the Post paywall.

incognito mode can be your friend

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:25:24am

re: #400 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sarah’s always had a difficult relationship with the truth. Why start now.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:26:56am

re: #402 Hecuba’s daughter

Several weeks ago some lizards were ensnared by her article on (I think) Pelosi; unless you are familiar with an author, it can be easy to mistake snark for real views.

I was going to check who wrote it but I don’t have an online account with the Post. If I had seen Petri written it, I would have known immediately it was snark.

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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:27:54am

re: #386 dangerman

i dont have one either and have never had to encounter nmi

interesting that it takes three letters to document that there isnt one letter

www doesn’t take more letters, but it takes more syllables to say than what it’s short for.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:27:55am

re: #406 dangerman

incognito mode can be your friend

I wasn’t going to look because I couldn’t stand to read another article fawning over the psychopath squatting in the White House, and frankly, the headline wasn’t any weirder than the one the NYT ran lauding the Wi GOP for its power grab.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:28:28am

re: #402 Hecuba’s daughter

Several weeks ago some lizards were ensnared by her article on (I think) Pelosi; unless you are familiar with an author, it can be easy to mistake snark for real views.

that one totally sucked me in
fool me once….is enough

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:29:11am

House approves short-term spending bill to avert government shutdown

The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday approved a two-week stopgap spending bill that would avert a government shutdown, sending it to the Senate.

Without action by Congress, funding for several federal agencies, including the Department of Agriculture, State Department and Department of Homeland Security, would expire. The stopgap bill extends funding through Dec. 21.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:29:12am

re: #408 HappyWarrior

I was going to check who wrote it but I don’t have an online account with the Post. If I had seen Petri written it, I would have known immediately it was snark.

This article was clearly snark — the prior one the caused discussion here could have been real — and the only clue to its intention was the author.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:29:23am

re: #403 Scottish Dragon

Always read the whole story. Armed robbery will get you ten years hard time, even if the store employees were not particularly frightened. I can’t say I feel sympathy for this guy.

Pulled a knife? He’s lucky I wasn’t there that day - homey don’t play that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:30:19am

re: #413 Hecuba’s daughter

This article was clearly snark — the prior one the caused discussion here could have been real — and the only clue to its intention was the author.

That’s what I mean.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:31:46am

re: #403 Scottish Dragon

This is an example of ‘liberal tears’ that the right wing loves to mock. If you read the actual story (which almost nobody seems to have done) you see the problem very quickly:

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The homeless guy engaged in petty theft of underwear getting a ridiculous ten year sentence? Outrageous!

Wait a minute…he brandished a knife and threatened store clerks…

The tweet kinda leaves the armed robbery part of the story out.

Always read the whole story. Armed robbery will get you ten years hard time, even if the store employees were not particularly frightened. I can’t say I feel sympathy for this guy.

I don’t favor harsh punishments for petty theft (not saying this is) but I see people act like stealing from a corporate store is somehow sticking it to the corporation, you’re actually hurting the employees who work tehre far more than the CEO with that. And yeah if he brandished a knife, I don’t care what he was trying to rob.

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:32:57am

Cue the 4chan/Breitbart incel whining:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:33:56am

re: #417 Lidane

Cue the 4chan/Breitbart incel whining:

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Heh remember how enraged they got when American Sniper didn’t win? I haven’t seen it yet still but AS not winning wasn’t some proof of a liberal plot.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:34:39am

re: #417 Lidane

Cue the 4chan/Breitbart incel whining:

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Black Panther is a drama? Sigh — I guess it’s not a musical or comedy.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:36:26am

re: #369 goddamnedfrank

Palmdale knows what it did.

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Oh. I didn’t know….

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:36:33am

re: #419 Hecuba’s daughter

Black Panther is a drama? Sigh — I guess it’s not a musical or comedy.

It has some comedic elements, but superhero dramas are nevertheless dramas. Now I could see Deadpool in the comedy category.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:37:41am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

Heh remember how enraged they got when American Sniper didn’t win? I haven’t seen it yet still but AS not winning wasn’t some proof of a liberal plot.

Using an obvious baby doll instead of an actual baby in a scene kind of works against a best picture nomination.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:38:05am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

Right. Like if a checker gives more change than is
Required I always give it back because 99% of the time it comes out of employees pocket. Conversely if I walk out of a store with something I forgot down below on the cart I always go back and pay. It’s possible to hate a company’s CEO while still not being a crook.

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gwangung  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:38:32am

re: #421 Big Beautiful Door

It has some comedic elements, but superhero dramas are nevertheless dramas. Now I could see Deadpool in the comedy category.

Panther touched (very lightly) some themes of intervention, colonialism and international aid, and in a serious way, so….yeah.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:38:33am

re: #421 Big Beautiful Door

It has some comedic elements, but superhero dramas are nevertheless dramas. Now I could see Deadpool in the comedy category.

Maybe there needs to be a separate category for superheros/super villains — but hard to see what it could be.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:39:01am

That satisfied feeling when you just jammed your garbage can full of shit minutes before the truck comes to collect. Ahhh.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:39:21am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

I liked Tom Wolfe’s description of this fiasco:
The (grapefruit-size) satellite broke loose and fell intact to the ground, “beeping pathetically as it rolled across the lawn.”

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:39:59am

re: #417 Lidane

Cue the 4chan/Breitbart incel whining:

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Which reminds me, has anyone here seen the new “A Star Is Born”? Any good?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:40:05am

re: #425 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe there needs to be a separate category for superheros/super villains — but hard to see what it could be.

I guess they could create a scifi-fantasy category if they wanted.

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mmmirele  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:40:31am

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Amory Blaine  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:40:41am

re: #428 William Lewis

My wife loved it.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:41:34am

re: #428 William Lewis

Which reminds me, has anyone here seen the new “A Star Is Born”? Any good?

I was entertained. I listen to a film review podcast and they raved about it. I wouldn’t rave, but it told the story well and had some good musical performances.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:41:43am

re: #426 Amory Blaine

That satisfied feeling when you just jammed your garbage can full of shit minutes before the truck comes to collect. Ahhh.

I hate hearing the garbage truck at 4 am and realize I forgot to take the trash out next to the street!

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:42:23am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

Heh remember how enraged they got when American Sniper didn’t win? I haven’t seen it yet still but AS not winning wasn’t some proof of a liberal plot.

Oh yes. I remember that drama.

I’m just laughing at the expected RWNJ reaction to that list. THREE films with black protagonists, one film about a flamboyant, decidedly non-hetero singer, and a remake of an older Hollywood film with Lady Gaga as the lead. Their heads are going to explode.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:42:58am

re: #425 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe there needs to be a separate category for superheros/super villains — but hard to see what it could be.

Why? We don’t separate gangster dramas from other dramas.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:43:22am

re: #417 Lidane

Best Actor in a Motion Picture - Drama
Bradley Cooper (“A Star Is Born”)
Willem Dafoe (“At Eternity’s Gate”)
Lucas Hedges (“Boy Erased”)
Rami Malek (“Bohemian Rhapsody”)
John David Washington (“BlacKkKlansman”)

The pedochan/nazi crowd can lose their shit again when Bradley Cooper doesn’t win Best Actor…..to Rami Malek or John David Washington.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:43:24am

re: #428 William Lewis

Which reminds me, has anyone here seen the new “A Star Is Born”? Any good?

Yeah my parents loved it. Did their first movie date in ages to see it.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:44:13am

re: #427 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ah, but it’s still there & will be for a long time yet. They may have needed a mulligan but they did it right on the retry.

Vanguard 1
Mission duration ~2,200 days
Spacecraft properties
Manufacturer Naval Research Laboratory
Launch mass 1.47 kilograms (3.2 lb)
Dimensions 6.4 inches (16 cm) diameter
Start of mission
Launch date March 17, 1958, 12:15:41 UTC;

Last contact May 1964
Decay date Est. 2198 (240-year orbital lifetime)

Vanguard 1 (ID: 1958-Beta 2 [3]) was the fourth artificial Earth orbital satellite to be successfully launched (following Sputnik 1, Sputnik 2, and Explorer 1). Vanguard 1 was the first satellite to have solar electric power.[4] Although communication with the satellite was lost in 1964, it remains the oldest man-made object still in orbit, together with the upper stage of its launch vehicle

en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:46:43am

re: #434 Lidane

Oh yes. I remember that drama.

I’m just laughing at the expected RWNJ reaction to that list. THREE films with black protagonists, one film about a flamboyant, decidedly non-hetero singer, and a remake of an older Hollywood film with Lady Gaga as the lead. Their heads are going to explode.

PC RUN AMOK! //

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:48:34am

BUT HER EMAILS!!!!

The media fixated on Hillary when there were all kinds of stories about Trump just waiting to be investigated - like using illegal aliens for hired labor at his golf resorts. He personally profited from using undocumented persons in his businesses.

This was the kind of thing that would end a nomination for high office (like Zoe Baird, Kimba Wood, etc.)

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:50:18am

EDITED!
re: #431 Amory Blaine

My wife loved it.

My friend hated the dialogue.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:51:05am

Sorry. Blew that.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:51:50am

re: #417 Lidane

Cue the 4chan/Breitbart incel whining:

Can’t believe Dish Dzousa’s great movie about [HRC is the Devil, DJT is George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Winston Churchill rolled into one] didn’t make the cut.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:51:56am

re: #432 Barefoot Grin

I was entertained. I listen to a film review podcast and they raved about it. I wouldn’t rave, but it told the story well and had some good musical performances.

My emphasis. That, to me, would be the reason to go see it. Thanks.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:52:49am

Speaking of low-life thieves, some scumbag just stole a homeless guy’s cart while it was parked on the sidewalk here at the church outreach center. He came in for some carry-food (our ever-popular snack sack) and didn’t know he could bring the cart inside. Someone saw him arrive with it so this is the real deal. The director is rounding up a sleeping bag and some clothes for the victim as we speak.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:53:29am

oh

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:57:42am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotta keep track of illegality reported on today re: Trumpworld.
1) Trump hired illegals at his resorts and profited from it.
2) Trump illegally coordinated with the NRA (which itself was compromised by the Russians via Butina).

Butina’s still in the works of trying to cut a deal with prosecutors.

Yeah, Trumpworld colluded with the Russians (and whoever else Trump owed money to). Trump conspired with foreign powers and entities in violation of federal law.
Trump violated US law in conspiring to cover up the earlier illegal acts.

Now, we learn Trump’s fine and dandy with hiring illegals so long as he profits from them, but doesn’t want nonwhites coming to US, let alone seeking asylum.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:57:44am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

[Embedded content]

Now that’s a shocker right there./

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:59:34am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

I just read the piece. Wow and FFS.

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 6, 2018 • 10:59:54am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

[Embedded content]

The cast just keeps getting fuller and fuller with All-Stars

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:02:19am

re: #425 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe there needs to be a separate category for superheros/super villains — but hard to see what it could be.

Why? One of my favorite comic books in college was The Elementals, which was about what would happen if ordinary people suddenly got superpowers. It was have made an awesome drama.

It was the only superhero movie to make it.

Splitting off like that makes me think of why the NY Times created a childrens best seller list (the major books didn’t want to compete with Harry Potter) or the Oscars created their animated award (they didn’t a Pixar or Miyazaki movie to win Best Picture).

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:03:06am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

[Embedded content]

If the NRA can go the way the Weekly Standard is about to go, that would be great mmmkay.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:05:28am

The market is rebounding from its steep early morning drop, so we’ll see how it goes for the rest of the afternoon.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:06:21am

re: #403 Scottish Dragon

Wait a minute…he brandished a knife and threatened store clerks…

The tweet kinda leaves the armed robbery part of the story out.

Always read the whole story. Armed robbery will get you ten years hard time, even if the store employees were not particularly frightened. I can’t say I feel sympathy for this guy.

What makes this seem more unjust is the fact that Cliven Bundy’s family and friends are out walking around free.

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:06:43am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Mueller investigation would go faster if Trump and his goons could stop breaking the law for one fucking second.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:09:12am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:10:04am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

If the NRA can go the way the Weekly Standard is about to go, that would be great mmmkay.

The problem is that the Weekly Standard is dying because it finally decided that there were actually some standards. It’s not dying because it’s a dishonest publication; it’s dying because it isn’t sufficiently dishonest, because it isn’t caving to Trump like so many others have but that belatedly it discovered it had some real principles.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:14:22am

Homeless knife-wielders in need of underwear advised to couch their poverty in Sovereign Citizen language and armaments.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:14:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:15:15am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:16:43am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:16:54am

re: #457 Hecuba’s daughter

The problem is that the Weekly Standard is dying because it finally decided that there were actually some standards. It’s not dying because it’s a dishonest publication; it’s dying because it isn’t sufficiently dishonest, because it isn’t caving to Trump like so many others have but that belatedly it discovered it had some real principles.

i know. I was channeling Lumberg in Office Space.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:17:17am

re: #440 lawhawk

BUT HER EMAILS!!!!

[Embedded content]

The media fixated on Hillary when there were all kinds of stories about Trump just waiting to be investigated - like using illegal aliens for hired labor at his golf resorts. He personally profited from using undocumented persons in his businesses.

This was the kind of thing that would end a nomination for high office (like Zoe Baird, Kimba Wood, etc.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:18:06am

re: #448 Big Beautiful Door

re: #449 Dr. Matt

I just read the piece. Wow and FFS.

Years ago during one of his fake campaigns for office, Stephen Colbert devoted a segment on his show to how meaningless these rules against coordination actually were. I doubt if anything will come of this.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:18:45am

So when the Dumpster Fire burns out is he throw on a NYC subway car by Russian mob thugs? Seems fitting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:19:26am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Funny Louie because American Jews judging by their voting patterns agree more with George Soros than Sheldon Adelson but you don’t see them denying he’s Jewish in a pathetic crap libel.

Louie is going by the Ben Shapiro Definition of Juiciness, according to which yr Babushka, whose DNA is 99.6 Ashkenazi Jewish, married by the Edah Charedit (Ultra-Orthodox rabbinical court in Jerusalem), mother of 9 Jewish kids & 42 Jewish grandkids, is “not really a Juice”

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:21:33am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

EXCLUSIVE: Documents point to illegal campaign coordination between Trump and the NRA bit.ly

we always knew

now they found documents

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:24:10am

re: #464 Hecuba’s daughter

Years ago during one of his fake campaigns for office, Stephen Colbert devoted a segment on his show to how meaningless these rules against coordination actually were. I doubt if anything will come of this.

A lot of our campaign finance law is incredibly stupid and easily manipulated. I’ve seen stories where candidate walks into room with donors, gives his/her speech/request for donations, then walks out and the person in charge of the PAC walks in, and asks everyone to open their checkbooks.

I’m not sure how we fix it, but right now it is just incredibly stupid.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:24:21am

re: #464 Hecuba’s daughter

Years ago during one of his fake campaigns for office, Stephen Colbert devoted a segment on his show to how meaningless these rules against coordination actually were. I doubt if anything will come of this.

Hopefully it will go on Mueller’s to do list. I’m sure Trump and Cohen never gave a moment’s thought to the illegality of their plan to payoff Trump’s mistresses.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:24:39am

re: #461 Charles Johnson

He sure didn’t campaign as if he believed in the “essential goodness of Americans.”

meacham didnt say “all” americans

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Dave In Austin  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:24:52am

Harbor Freight…….

“God these are cheap!” turns into a $100 bill real fast. But they are still bloody cheap.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:26:13am

Don’t give them ideas.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:27:55am

re: #440 lawhawk

BUT HER EMAILS!!!!

[Embedded content]

The media fixated on Hillary when there were all kinds of stories about Trump just waiting to be investigated - like using illegal aliens for hired labor at his golf resorts. He personally profited from using undocumented persons in his businesses.

This was the kind of thing that would end a nomination for high office (like Zoe Baird, Kimba Wood, etc.)

Honestly, I don’t have a problem with it. Granted, I’m as close as you can get to being an open border proponent. So I don’t really care that someone hires undocumented workers, so long as they are being paid in accordance with labor laws. I’d be preferable that everyone involved also paid the required taxes. But hiring an undocumented worker, even knowingly, shouldn’t be disqualifying.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:28:22am

re: #471 Dave In Austin

Harbor Freight…….

“God these are cheap!” turns into a $100 bill real fast. But they are still bloody cheap.

Wish we had Harbor Freight Tools over here. I was looking for a watch case opener the other day and the cheapest one I found here was over $50.

*grumble, grumble*

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:28:28am

re: #472 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Now that we’re past the days of newly elected legislators from across the country traveling to Washington on horseback, the whole idea of a lame duck session seems outmoded. We should adopt the parliamentary model of installing the new legislators the day after an election.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:30:03am

re: #466 The Vicious Babushka

Louie is going by the Ben Shapiro Definition of Juiciness, according to which yr Babushka, whose DNA is 99.6 Ashkenazi Jewish, married by the Edah Charedit (Ultra-Orthodox rabbinical court in Jerusalem), mother of 9 Jewish kids & 42 Jewish grandkids, is “not really a Juice”

Aha!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:31:05am

re: #475 jaunte

Now that we’re past the days of newly elected legislators from across the country traveling to Washington on horseback, the whole idea of a lame duck session seems outmoded. We should adopt the parliamentary model of installing the new legislators the day after an election.

Except we don’t know in many cases who the new legislators will be, sometimes for weeks after the election.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:31:14am

re: #475 jaunte

Now that we’re past the days of newly elected legislators from across the country traveling to Washington on horseback, the whole idea of a lame duck session seems outmoded. We should adopt the parliamentary model of installing the new legislators the day after an election.

It takes most locales up to 30 days to certify election results - California won’t have it’s elections certified until tomorrow. That said, the lame duck sessions should be eliminated, barring emergencies. And new legislators should be sworn in as soon as possible.

479
Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:34:08am

re: #456 jaunte

Mueller should subpoena her.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:36:41am

re: #479 Belafon

Mueller should subpoena her.

He’ll more likely refer it to the US Attorney for the District of New Jersey. It does appear to be outside the scope of his charter, after all.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:36:58am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

If the NRA can go the way the Weekly Standard is about to go, that would be great mmmkay.

The NRA shoots themself in the foot by electing GOPers because they can’t fear monger that the Evil Dem POTUS is going to take away everyone’s gunzzz.

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:37:34am

re: #466 The Vicious Babushka

Louie is going by the Ben Shapiro Definition of Juiciness, according to which yr Babushka, whose DNA is 99.6 Ashkenazi Jewish, married by the Edah Charedit (Ultra-Orthodox rabbinical court in Jerusalem), mother of 9 Jewish kids & 42 Jewish grandkids, is “not really a Juice”

Ah. The Shapiro Definition must be “Republican = Juice”.

In other words, both Shaprio and Gohmert are idiots.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:39:33am
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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:41:58am

re: #483 Big Beautiful Door

Is it because:

Archer - Water? Never touch the stuff, fish fuck in it.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:56:33am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

[Embedded content]

I wonder if that was Russian money? I think that is how the money the NRA got from Russia was used…advertising for Republican candidates.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:01:39pm

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

[Embedded content]

Why not, they had all the Russian money.

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nines09  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:03:39pm

re: #483 Big Beautiful Door

You ride into Harlan County and the sign says;
Welcome To Harlan County Kentucky. Fucked Forever.

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retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:13:12pm

re: #468 KGxvi

A lot of our campaign finance law is incredibly stupid and easily manipulated. I’ve seen stories where candidate walks into room with donors, gives his/her speech/request for donations, then walks out and the person in charge of the PAC walks in, and asks everyone to open their checkbooks.

I’m not sure how we fix it, but right now it is just incredibly stupid.

Public Financing. Period. And they will fight it every millimeter of the way.


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