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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:45:13am
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Mattand  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:48:29am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I love the fact that this woman is basically using a flame thrower to remove the veil of how government really works.

Plus, why the hell am I not watching Full Frontal more?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:48:41am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

We need more people like Alexandria in office; after 10 years of experience, she’ll be old enough to run for President! And unlike Bernie, I think she will make a mark in her office. It certainly helps that she is a master of the new media platforms.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:49:22am

re: #2 Mattand

I love the fact that this woman is basically using a flame thrower to remove the veil of how government really works.

Plus, why the hell am I not watching Full Frontal more?

You and me both!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:51:50am
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Mattand  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:57:27am

Quick derail of the main thread: this article in the Atlantic details the “Eh, fuck it, we’ll wing it” attitude of the Trump gang towards dealing with Muller.

One thing struck me about the Rudy Giuliani quotes: maybe it’s just me, but is Rudy basically laying the ground work for “I did what I could, but Trump is unmanageable” defense? It’s how I’m seeing it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2018 • 11:59:27am

re: #6 Mattand

That sounds like something Rudy would do. Everyone will start bailing from Trump when the shit really hits the fan.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:00:14pm

re: #6 Mattand

Quick derail of the main thread: this article in the Atlantic details the “Eh, fuck it, we’ll wing it” attitude of the Trump gang towards dealing with Muller.

One thing struck me about the Rudy Giuliani quotes: maybe it’s just me, but is Rudy basically laying the ground work for “I did what I could, but Trump is unmanageable” defense? It’s how I’m seeing it.

That doesn’t really work as a defense of Trump, though.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:01:18pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:01:55pm

re: #6 Mattand

Quick derail of the main thread: this article in the Atlantic details the “Eh, fuck it, we’ll wing it” attitude of the Trump gang towards dealing with Muller.

One thing struck me about the Rudy Giuliani quotes: maybe it’s just me, but is Rudy basically laying the ground work for “I did what I could, but Trump is unmanageable” defense? It’s how I’m seeing it.

Rudy’s tweets over the last week make me think he’s just fucking senile and doesn’t have a plan.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:02:07pm
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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:02:18pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:03:31pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Rudy’s tweets over the last week make me think he’s just fucking senile and doesn’t have a plan.

I love this quote from the article

“It’s like, ‘Jesus, take the wheel,’” the source added, “but scarier.”

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:04:39pm

There are a lot of reasons why white collar crimes don’t get aggressively prosecuted. High on that list is because the defendants typically can afford to hire top flight criminal defense lawyers - it’s much easier to prosecute cases against underfunded public defenders or smaller firms that are typically looking to churn and burn files. It’s also typically more difficult to explain white collar crimes to juries - everyone understands “he hit her” or “he shot him”; it’s less easy to explain when you have to call a forensic accountant to explain how diverting half a cent on ATM transactions results in this guy illegally walking away with ten million dollars. Throw in that the reward structures for prosecutors incentivize pleas on par with convictions, and it makes sense that white collar crime doesn’t get the scrutiny the other stuff does.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:04:54pm

re: #5 Big Beautiful Door

Federalist Society Judges think that discovery should be denied in all cases worth less than a half million bucks. Forget about justice in the federal courts if you’re a little person.

So dumb. How the fuck are plaintiffs supposed to fight a motion for summary judgement without discovery?

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Jay C  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:06:53pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

So dumb. How the fuck are plaintiffs supposed to fight a motion for summary judgement without discovery?

They aren’t; it’s the Federalist Society remember?

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:07:03pm

The Trump EPA Responds To Questions

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:07:05pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Rudy’s tweets over the last week make me think he’s just fucking senile and doesn’t have a plan.

He may be senile but how can anyone have a plan when Trump ignores everything you may advise. The only plans that offer themselves are (1) pleading insanity on behalf of your client or (2) finding the best time to make a quick departure.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:07:50pm

re: #5 Big Beautiful Door

Federalist Society Judges think that discovery should be denied in all cases worth less than a half million bucks. Forget about justice in the federal courts if you’re a little person.

Gah.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:08:41pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

So dumb. How the fuck are plaintiffs supposed to fight a motion for summary judgement without discovery?

I think that’s kind of the point.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:09:20pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

So dumb. How the fuck are plaintiffs supposed to fight a motion for summary judgement without discovery?

Also it works both ways, you get sued by a student loan lender for $100K and then can’t demand they provide proof before trial that the loan is valid? AYFKM?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:09:26pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Appreciate her bringing attention to this. This is awful. I really like her. I think she’s going to be a thorn in the side of many on the right for years to come.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:10:47pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

They don’t seem to have thought this one through.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:11:11pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

So dumb. How the fuck are plaintiffs supposed to fight a motion for summary judgement without discovery?

It’d be pretty hard to win a motion for summary judgment without discovery. Using the other side’s answers are kind of important in establishing “undisputed material facts.”

And I get it, discovery sucks, it is the bane of every litigator’s life. And the Rule 26 disclosures are supposed to help reign in some of that discovery. But you still need depositions, you still need basic interrogatories, and document production.

If you got rid of discovery, you’d end up making 3 day trials into 30 day trials. You’d also end up having many, many more trials because discovery is also pretty useful in convincing parties of liability and the benefit of settlements.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:11:25pm

This paragraph from the Atlantic article gets me.

“The thing that upsets potus the most is the treatment of Manafort,” Giuliani said. When Trump learned that the former campaign chairman was in solitary confinement, Giuliani said, “he said to me, ‘Don’t they realize we’re America?’”

Right, didn’t you realize we’re America when you ordered babies to be ripped from their parents and put in cages, you Orange Ass Stain?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:17:53pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Rudy’s tweets over the last week make me think he’s just fucking senile and doesn’t have a plan.

Who? Rudy or Trump?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:18:18pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:19:03pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Seconded.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:21:43pm

nytimes.com

So Republicans favor a new election — probably because the format favors them. How do you manage to have early voting and mail-in ballots in this situation? They know that this approach hampers minority voters. Unfortunately, there is no way around this; the original election is totally contaminated beyond repair. And the new election will also be unfair because of its impediments to minority and senior voters.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:22:51pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

The problem with her observation about the lack of Labor representation is that 35% of the country considers them an enemy to be exploited.

With Libertarians taking over, a zero-sum game philosophy has emerged where there are two peoples- the exploiters and the exploited. Winners and Losers. One must aspire to be an exploiter. The average White Male and Trump voter has been reprogrammed during the last 40 years or so to believe that only the winners should be given consideration by the government. Labor is now seen as not worthy of representation at all… Too Socialist.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:22:53pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:26:14pm

re: #31 jaunte

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Right, so when he realized they’d been caught it was national news he threw up.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:26:41pm

Is the FBI or any federal law enforcement involved in the NC-9 scandal yet? If not, why?

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:28:54pm

Cool news for Columbus, if it comes off like proposed.

The Columbus Crew MLS ‘football’ club had a new owner that was not investing in the team and was thought the reason he was doing it is he wanted to take the team to Austin Texas. And that is exactly what he tried.

Problem is, he ran into the “Modell Rule” a law passed in Ohio after Art Modell took the Browns away from Cleveland without the city having any say. The Modell rule as far as I know the details states a city must be made aware of those kinds of plans by the owner and must be given a fair chance to work to keep the team.

So Columbus sued the new owner (Anthony Precourt) and MLS using that law and managed to hold up the team from being moved.

Then thankfully a local business group along with Cleveland Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam came up with a financing plan to keep the team and worked it out with MLS to give Precourt a new franchise. But part of the plan stated there was to be a replacement for Mapfre (Spanish Insurance Company) Stadium that was originally built by Lamar Hunt the original (family) ownership.

Today it was announced the new stadium would be built downtown and be a private/public funded deal. I don’t know the funding details, but I think they are pretty aware local Columbus folks are not going to dump a bunch of tax money in a new sports stadium, so it better be creative.

Here is a tweet that shows the proposed stadium. It is going to be in an area of Columbus that was once industrial/warehouse that will really help fill in the downtown which is growing daily. It also will put in a row with Nationwide Arena where the Columbus Bluejackets NHL team plays and Huntington (Bank) Park where the Cleveland Indians AAA baseball team plays. Also in the whole area is a slew of new apartments and condos which has created the need for more commercial areas like shopping, restaurants, clubs, a concert venue, etc.

I hope it works for all. It is a pretty good looking project.

Link to article at Major League Soccer.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/12/06/columbus-crew-sc-reveal-plan-new-stadium

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:32:02pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:40:37pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

[… They scream the loudest about things they want to do themselves.]

Want to do and/or have been doing for some time now.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:42:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:43:29pm

Well, my new modem arrived from UPS, only taking four days for next day service.

After my Internet service was restored again this morning, I spent three hours on the telephone trying to get the mail address to return the old modem. The telephone company insisted I had to use UPS (a 120-mile round trip for me).

I finally got to someone in the business office of the telephone company who would admit they have an address and I can mail it to them.

I don’t know what the corporate love-fest with UPS is. Everyone in this part of the state despises UPS for their lack of concern about delivering packages since the depot is so far away.

In regular political news, Nancy Pelosi notes that it is the prerogative of the US House to seat a new member, and in the case of NC-9, that means any incoming House member can protest the alleged winner of that race over the allegations of electoral fraud. She notes Republicans in the district are also upset because it appears the same fraud was perpetrated in the Republican primary for that race.

huffingtonpost.com

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:44:01pm
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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:46:15pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:49:12pm

When did they ever? Not in my lifetime. I would ditch the word “current” in this:

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:55:07pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

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story changed.

yesterday it was can of bear repellent ‘fell off a shelf’

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:55:58pm

re: #40 lawhawk

Client number 3 is busy interfering in ongoing federal investigation because his buddy, individual no. 1 knows he’s in real trouble.

Quid meet pro and quo.

also possibly because he has an ‘individual’ number himself

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:57:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:57:49pm

I went to the VA clinic in Sidney yesterday (a 120-mile round trip) for routine blood tests related to the medications I take.

The nurse practitioner in charge of the clinic is my next-door neighbour. She also has to take that 120-mile round trip to go to work.

I suggested when we were in the clinic “you know, I could have just gone over to your house and saved us both the drive and the VA paying me travel pay for the trip.”

“Oh no” was her response. “Everyone would be coming to my house.”

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:59:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 12:59:47pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Louie Gohmert is often treated as a goofy crackpot, but this dishonest antisemitic tweet really exposes his underlying malice.

— Charles Johnson

That 60 Minutes nonsense is also a conserva-lie. Rep. Gohmert is repeating a neo-Nazi lie.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:01:27pm

Bloomberg’s contemplating a WH run, and is now wondering how to deal with his ownership of Bloomberg News, which reports on things like politics.

His response to how they should handle this should set off red flags every step of the way.

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:02:55pm

Things I am not going to do today:

#1. Argue with wingnuts about George Freaking Soros.

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Mattand  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:03:48pm

re: #8 Big Beautiful Door

That doesn’t really work as a defense of Trump, though.

Sorry, I meant the quotes were a cover-your-ass defense for Rudy himself, if Trump eventually goes down.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:04:23pm

on this business of trump’s ‘housekeeper’

“During more than five years as a housekeeper at the Trump National Golf Club, Victorina Morales has made Donald Trump’s bed, cleaned his toilet and dusted his crystal golf trophies. When he visited as president, she was directed to wear a pin in the shape of the American flag adorned with a Secret Service logo,” the New York Times reports.

proof positive there are some jobs americans wont do

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:05:44pm

re: #49 bd(Redacted)

Things I am not going to do today:

#1. Argue with wingnuts about George Freaking Soros.

Call them liars, and leave it at that.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:07:16pm

re: #49 bd(Redacted)

Things I am not going to do today:

#1. Argue with wingnuts about George Freaking Soros.

danger says dont engage crackpots

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:08:11pm
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:10:27pm

thedailybeast.com

Gohmert (R) Batshit Crazytown Tx, goes there on Fox Business Channel over Soros alt-right Nazi meme.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:11:54pm

Yay, I won $20 in the lotto!

I also reached the milestone of 123,095 karma points here just now.

I wonder if these are related.

The website Spurious Correlations notes the average rainfall in my county correlates within a percentage point or two of the United Kingdom’s defence spending, so maybe there is something with LGF karma points and me winning lotto prizes. /s

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:16:00pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:18:16pm

A great point about Trump’s Mueller issues and how he is going to fight the report when it comes out was just made on Nicole Wallace’s MSNBC show.

It is being reported the White House has no plans for a come back. I think there were some tweets mentioning that around here.

NY Times reporter Nick Confessore said the problem for the White House legal team is Trump most likely has not fessed up to his own lawyers what he has done, so they have no idea what faces them if he is in deep with Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc.

I hadn’t considered that. Good chance they have no clue what Trump may have done because he is probably both withholding facts and lying to them because that is what he does.

If that Report is a real bomb, I think his lawyers might just hang him out to dry because how do you represent a client that won’t tell you the truth?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:23:38pm

huffingtonpost.com (video, auto play)

A senior aide to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) resigned on Wednesday amid reports that the state paid $400,000 to settle a sexual harassment lawsuit filed against him while Harris was the California attorney general.

Harris has denied knowledge of the lawsuit against Larry Wallace, who directed the state Department of Justice’s Division of Law Enforcement during her tenure as attorney general, and continued to work for her after she began her term in the U.S. Senate last year.

Danielle Hartley, former executive assistant to Wallace, accused him of “gender harassment,” including forcing her to perform demeaning tasks like washing his car and crawling under his desk to refill the paper in his printer.

The lawsuit was filed on Dec. 30, 2016, shortly before Harris was sworn in as a senator. The California Department of Justice settled the suit in May 2017 under Harris’ successor, Attorney General Xavier Becerra.

(more)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:23:46pm
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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:24:25pm

re: #58 ObserverArt

Only ones who didn’t seem to realize that this was a problem Trump the client were Trump’s buddy Rudy and his ongoing counsel.

Everyone else wanted precisely nothing to do with Trump’s case. No major law firms wanted to do anything with it. There’s no David Boies. No Schiller. No one even approaching that level of legal acuity on the team - precisely because anyone with that level of acuity realized the problems:

1) Trump can’t be trusted as a client to be truthful with his own counsel
2) Trump thinks he’s the smartest in the room and ignores counsel advise;
3) Trump will lie to anyone about anything, and thinks he can get away with it scot-free;
4) Trump is notorious for not paying his bills to counsel, even when he does a good job.

Smaller firms balk at 4, because it’s the kind of thing that can bankrupt a smaller firm with unpaid billables. Larger firms might go for it, hoping to benefit from prestige of repping a president, but even there, the negatives around Trump are so bad, no one wants to rep him. He’s stuck with people who tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear - and tunes out anything contrary to his worldview.

Trump’s shitshow is only going to get worse from here.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:25:01pm

Wow, the Dow almost broke even on the day, and the Nasdaq actually had a small gain.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:25:31pm

chrome users:

if you havent seen the fix, you can turn off the ‘not secure’ flag messaging

Open Chrome and open a new tab
type chrome://flags in the address bar, then press “Enter”.
Scroll down to the “Mark non-secure origins as non-secure” setting and change it to
either
- “Always mark HTTP as neutral”
- “Disable’
depends on your version of chrome

also there may be more granular options as well

change to “default” to enable again

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Jay C  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:26:10pm

re: #42 dangerman

story changed.

yesterday it was can of bear repellent ‘fell off a shelf’

Obviously, they’re trying to cover up for the robot.

Maybe it’s related to someone in Management….

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:27:24pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Only ones who didn’t seem to realize that this was a problem Trump the client were Trump’s buddy Rudy and his ongoing counsel.

Everyone else wanted precisely nothing to do with Trump’s case. No major law firms wanted to do anything with it. There’s no David Boies. No Schiller. No one even approaching that level of legal acuity on the team - precisely because anyone with that level of acuity realized the problems:

1) Trump can’t be trusted as a client to be truthful with his own counsel
2) Trump thinks he’s the smartest in the room and ignores counsel advise;
3) Trump will lie to anyone about anything, and thinks he can get away with it scot-free;
4) Trump is notorious for not paying his bills to counsel, even when he does a good job.

Smaller firms balk at 4, because it’s the kind of thing that can bankrupt a smaller firm with unpaid billables. Larger firms might go for it, hoping to benefit from prestige of repping a president, but even there, the negatives around Trump are so bad, no one wants to rep him. He’s stuck with people who tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear - and tunes out anything contrary to his worldview.

Trump’s shitshow is only going to get worse from here.

As Steve Bannon reportedly said in Fire and Fury, Mueller has assembled a team of killers, and Trump has a couple of guys with post-it notes.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:29:20pm

Looks like my iphone 6 is about ready to head to a farm upstate where it can run free. The battery is getting bad, and I’m probably due for an upgrade, both on phone and plan. Rather annoyed that an unlimited plan is going to cost me $70-80 plus all the additional fees and the phone - apparently that $40 rate everyone advertises is for at least three phones.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:30:48pm

re: #66 KGxvi

Looks like my iphone 6 is about ready to head to a farm upstate where it can run free. The battery is getting bad, and I’m probably due for an upgrade, both on phone and plan. Rather annoyed that an unlimited plan is going to cost me $70-80 plus all the additional fees and the phone - apparently that $40 rate everyone advertises is for at least three phones.

If you can get to an Apple Store before the end of the year, you can replace the battery for only $39, instead of spending hundreds on a new phone.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:31:29pm

re: #64 Jay C

Obviously, they’re trying to cover up for the robot.

Maybe it’s related to someone in Management….

undocumented maybe?

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:33:00pm

re: #66 KGxvi

Looks like my iphone 6 is about ready to head to a farm upstate where it can run free. The battery is getting bad, and I’m probably due for an upgrade, both on phone and plan. Rather annoyed that an unlimited plan is going to cost me $70-80 plus all the additional fees and the phone - apparently that $40 rate everyone advertises is for at least three phones.

I’ve got a droid phone that has battery issues too - and the only way to replace is to send out and have someone do it because the battery is hardwired. So, my options become more limited since I need phone for work (things like MFA), etc.

So, instead of being able to keep a phone that’s in serviceable condition but for a battery that’s going, I have to consider a new phone.

Cellular providers run a scam, and they know it - which is why they make it so hard to accurately compare prices and phones and plans. Throw teaser promotions that don’t apply to current customers, and you’ve got a mess.

(and what I say about cellular providers counts doubly for cable/satellite/tv providers).

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Jay C  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:33:18pm

re: #68 dangerman

undocumented maybe?

No “green card” in its main drive…

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:33:39pm

I want to also congratulate our esteemed host Mr. Johnson on reaching 694,741 karma points. He will shortly surpass 700,000 points.

I don’t feel Mr. Johnson receives sufficient recognition for his insightful commentary here.

Give him a few upfists to push him over 700,000, y’all.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:34:28pm
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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:35:41pm

re: #72 Big Beautiful Door

They’re hoping to lame duck that POS across the line, except that they can’t even do that right - they don’t have the time, and not enough GOPers want to be in DC for the holidays.

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:36:14pm
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coin operated  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:36:33pm

re: #67 Big Beautiful Door

If you can get to an Apple Store before the end of the year, you can replace the battery for only $39, instead of spending hundreds on a new phone.

I’ll echo what lawhawk said…get it to an apple store before you make any other decisions. My old 5s still works like a charm, but nobody will touch it for less than $70. Only the 6 and above are eligible for the discounted battery replacement.

Edited for clarity…

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Mike Lamb  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:37:24pm

re: #5 Big Beautiful Door

Federalist Society Judges think that discovery should be denied in all cases worth less than a half million bucks. Forget about justice in the federal courts if you’re a little person.

It isn’t a “little person” issue. Discovery is typically the most expensive part of litigation. The proposal makes no fucking sense though, as it would make litigation for all sides impossible. No one wants to be involved in litigation by ambush…its impossible for everyone.

Just take a personal injury case, how is the defense supposed to prepare if it can’t get medical records or have an IME performed, Hell, they would not even be able to get copies of medical bills to know what the total amounts at issue are in order to properly evaluate settlement options. The proposal is fucking stupid.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:37:50pm

re: #72 Big Beautiful Door

Mexico You will pay for Trump’s wall.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:38:20pm

re: #14 KGxvi

Plus a lot of people would have to rethink their worship of capitalism. It would hit such people as hard as a RC Cardinal being charged and convicted of sex crimes would freak Roman Catholics.

Better just not to do anything and leave my faith unchallenged. Yeah, people get hurt but shit happens.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:38:33pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

I want to also congratulate our esteemed host Mr. Johnson on reaching 694,741 karma points. He will shortly surpass 700,000 points.

I don’t feel Mr. Johnson receives sufficient recognition for his insightful commentary here.

Give him a few upfists to push him over 700,000, y’all.

he’s got the keys
he could push the odometer anytime

// (with utmost respect and love)

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coin operated  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:38:52pm

re: #5 Big Beautiful Door

Federalist Society Judges think that discovery should be denied in all cases worth less than a half million bucks. Forget about justice in the federal courts if you’re a little person.

I don’t think it’s going to fly very far. Nobody I know in the legal profession wants to have a Perry Mason moment on the stand and that’s exactly what’ll happen here.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:39:37pm

re: #18 Hecuba’s daughter

He may be senile but how can anyone have a plan when Trump ignores everything you may advise. The only plans that offer themselves are (1) pleading insanity on behalf of your client or (2) finding the best time to make a quick departure plea bargain.

FTFY.

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Lidane  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:40:04pm

PC RUN AMOK, y’all:

I eagerly await all the bleating about the liberals at the Texas DMV wanting to suppress history. Should be fun.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:40:21pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

Mexico You will pay for Trump’s wall.

only the brain dead didnt know it was ever thus

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:40:51pm

re: #69 lawhawk

I’ve got a droid phone that has battery issues too - and the only way to replace is to send out and have someone do it because the battery is hardwired. So, my options become more limited since I need phone for work (things like MFA), etc.

So, instead of being able to keep a phone that’s in serviceable condition but for a battery that’s going, I have to consider a new phone.

Cellular providers run a scam, and they know it - which is why they make it so hard to accurately compare prices and phones and plans. Throw teaser promotions that don’t apply to current customers, and you’ve got a mess.

(and what I say about cellular providers counts doubly for cable/satellite/tv providers).

There’s a place in Michigan called The Pod Drop where you take in your phone, go grocery shopping for 45 minutes or so and then go pick up your phone. $50 for a new battery.

They’ve replaced many a battery of mine over the years.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:43:48pm

re: #82 Lidane

Fuck’em.

Losers don’t get participation certificates (or license plates) for the losing side in the war of Southern Insurrection.

They’re patriots? Not for the USA, because they’re rooting and touting the losing side - the side that fought the Union.

So yeah, fuck ‘em.

86
Romantic Heretic  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:45:12pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

That’s because many people, probably most, do not understand democracy and when they do they don’t like it very much. They think democracy is about ‘winning’, winning power specifically, and respond to promises of it.

The other side knows that democracy is about balance, which means you don’t get your own way all the time. This puts them at a distinct disadvantage against the authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives.

The results are Brexit, Trump, Orban etc.

87
KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:45:13pm

re: #69 lawhawk

I’ve got a droid phone that has battery issues too - and the only way to replace is to send out and have someone do it because the battery is hardwired. So, my options become more limited since I need phone for work (things like MFA), etc.

So, instead of being able to keep a phone that’s in serviceable condition but for a battery that’s going, I have to consider a new phone.

Cellular providers run a scam, and they know it - which is why they make it so hard to accurately compare prices and phones and plans. Throw teaser promotions that don’t apply to current customers, and you’ve got a mess.

(and what I say about cellular providers counts doubly for cable/satellite/tv providers).

I cut the cord on TV, still pay a ridiculous amount for internet, but get my TV via hulu, netflix, and the hbo app. I like that set up much better.

But as for wireless carriers, yes, they all blow and/or suck at the same time. And I’m in the same boat as you in needing a phone since I don’t have a landline and basically use my phone for everything.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:47:24pm

Cucker Tarlson recognizes now what everyone who isn’t in Trumpworld has known all along. Trump isn’t fit to serve.

Trump lacks focus? He’s got the attention span of a gnat. He doesn’t know anything about policy more than a few canned empty platitude lines he cribs and repeats endlessly.

I’m not naive to think Carlson’s turning on Trump signifies that Trump’s toast, but I think he’s signaling that Trump’s troubles may end up overwhelming the GOP/Fox nexus with criminal misconduct being exposed by Mueller and prosecutors all over the place.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:49:34pm

re: #51 dangerman

more on this business of trump’s ‘housekeeper’

“Because of the ‘outstanding’ support she has provided during Mr. Trump’s visits, Ms. Morales in July was given a certificate from the White House Communications Agency inscribed with her name.”

a housekeeper was given a certificate from the white house

she must have either
- made those toilets sparkle like no one ever has before! or
- cleaned up some substantial filth no one wants to discuss

to earn such recognition

or tell me that doesnt smack of ….i dont know what to call it any more
abuse of something

not to mention outright stupidity - yet again, no one in this ever shrinking circle of ‘advisers’ has the brains to NOT draw attention to an undocumented individual has been working for the president for years

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:49:35pm

re: #67 Big Beautiful Door

If you can get to an Apple Store before the end of the year, you can replace the battery for only $39, instead of spending hundreds on a new phone.

I might just do that. But I do kinda want a new one anyway. I just haven’t researched the ten thousand models they now have to figure out exactly which one I want.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:50:39pm

re: #82 Lidane

PC RUN AMOK, y’all:

[Embedded content]

I eagerly await all the bleating about the liberals at the Texas DMV wanting to suppress history. Should be fun.

Debate centered on how the design is similar to an existing plate that raises money for biketexas.org, not on whether it celebrates 19th-century Texans fighting to preserve slavery. …

… Robin Stallings, executive director of the Texas Bicycle Coalition Education Fund, or biketexas.org, objected. He said his group’s “God Bless Texas” plate also displays on the left side a furled Texas flag.

“The plates are very similar,” he told the board. “It could cause a lot of confusion.” From several car lengths behind, Stallings told a reporter, “it’s the same — just a spitting image of ours.”

Image: 1544118512-CONFEDPLATE_1207TEX_66215992.JPG

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Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:51:22pm
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Jay C  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:52:56pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

I want to also congratulate our esteemed host Mr. Johnson on reaching 694,741 karma points. He will shortly surpass 700,000 points.

I don’t feel Mr. Johnson receives sufficient recognition for his insightful commentary here.

Give him a few upfists to push him over 700,000, y’all.

Good idea re the LGF Karma points, but you might want to work on the phraseology a bit….

PS: I’m surprised Charles (the bloghost, after all) only has 694,000

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:53:42pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

rhymes with “Meeven Diller”?

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:53:56pm

re: #86 Romantic Heretic

That’s because many people, probably most, do not understand democracy and when they do they don’t like it very much. They think democracy is about ‘winning’, winning power specifically, and respond to promises of it.

The other side knows that democracy is about balance, which means you don’t get your own way all the time. This puts them at a distinct disadvantage against the authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives.

The results are Brexit, Trump, Orban etc.

- Political parties lead to divisiveness, and they should
- If we have honest disagreements, arguments are good
- Arguments are good only if they lead to statesmanship, or it’s just theater
- Statesmanship *is* compromise
——
Also
Ben Franklin thought the only hope for democracy was if people respected each other enough to compromise

what’s going on with some of these lame duck maneuvers is more proof positive that one side and only one side is abdicating its position in this process

they think they’re solidifying it. ultimately the curtain will be drawn back and they will lose it all

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:54:04pm

re: #85 lawhawk

Fuck’em.

Losers don’t get participation certificates (or license plates) for the losing side in the war of Southern Insurrection.

They’re patriots? Not for the USA, because they’re rooting and touting the losing side - the side that fought the Union.

So yeah, fuck ‘em.

I’m waiting for some lost cause group to promote Confederate license plates in a Union state.

There is a fellow in my county’s seat who flies the Dixie Swastika. In Nebraska.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:56:32pm

re: #88 lawhawk

Cucker Tarlson recognizes now what everyone who isn’t in Trumpworld has known all along. Trump isn’t fit to serve.

[Embedded content]

Trump lacks focus? He’s got the attention span of a gnat. He doesn’t know anything about policy more than a few canned empty platitude lines he cribs and repeats endlessly.

I’m not naive to think Carlson’s turning on Trump signifies that Trump’s toast, but I think he’s signaling that Trump’s troubles may end up overwhelming the GOP/Fox nexus with criminal misconduct being exposed by Mueller and prosecutors all over the place.

from the article, when carlson says trump hasnt “kept his promises to the american people”, he means:

“…that he would build the wall, de-fund planned parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things.”

notihng loftier than that

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:58:06pm

Oh no. Pete Shelley has died. RIP. Loved the Buzzcocks.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:58:21pm

re: #95 dangerman

- Political parties lead to divisiveness, and they should
- If we have honest disagreements, arguments are good
- Arguments are good only if they lead to statesmanship, or it’s just theater
- Statesmanship *is* compromise
——
Also
Ben Franklin thought the only hope for democracy was if people respected each other enough to compromise

what’s going on with some of these lame duck maneuvers is more proof positive that one side and only one side is abdicating its position in this process

they think they’re solidifying it. ultimately the curtain will be drawn back and they will lose it all

Our system of government is ultimately designed to generate consensus. You need to get 218 of 435 people from 50 different states to agree to something, then you need to get 51 of 100 other people from those 50 states to agree to that exact same thing in the exact same language, then you need a president to sign off on it and enforce it, then you have the courts to make sure its constitutional and being implemented/enforced fairly. Oh, and we stagger our elections to prevent political fads from taking hold.

Unfortunately, this all breaks down when you have people involved who don’t believe in compromise or building toward a consensus. And that’s where we are now.

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 1:58:25pm

re: #93 Jay C

Good idea re the LGF Karma points, but you might want to work on the phraseology a bit….

PS: I’m surprised Charles (the bloghost, after all) only has 694,000

while charles has made a place for the rest of us here who dont, im sure he has a life

//

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dangerman  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:00:38pm

re: #99 KGxvi

Our system of government is ultimately designed to generate consensus. You need to get 218 of 435 people from 50 different states to agree to something, then you need to get 51 of 100 other people from those 50 states to agree to that exact same thing in the exact same language, then you need a president to sign off on it and enforce it, then you have the courts to make sure its constitutional and being implemented/enforced fairly. Oh, and we stagger our elections to prevent political fads from taking hold.

Unfortunately, this all breaks down when you have people involved who don’t believe in compromise or building toward a consensus. And that’s where we are now.

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:02:34pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹
Crazy man’s pinned tweet

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:03:10pm

re: #93 Jay C

Good idea re the LGF Karma points, but you might want to work on the phraseology a bit….

PS: I’m surprised Charles (the bloghost, after all) only has 694,000

How about “upthrusts” then?

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:03:33pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

I’m waiting for some lost cause group to promote Confederate license plates in a Union state.

There is a fellow in my county’s seat who flies the Dixie Swastika. In Nebraska.

There are idiots that fly the damn Confederate flag in Lancaster Ohio.

That town is the birthplace of William Tecumseh Sherman.

And I bet some of those folks have no idea who Sherman was and what he meant to the whole Confederacy and history.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:05:05pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:05:22pm

re: #93 Jay C

Good idea re the LGF Karma points, but you might want to work on the phraseology a bit….

PS: I’m surprised Charles (the bloghost, after all) only has 694,000

He probably got a lot of negative karma from the flouncers just before they left, but that’s just my guess.

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:05:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:07:10pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

Crazy man’s pinned tweet

What I have accumulated here is absolutely shocking upon the realization that #Mueller’s disreputable, twisted history speaks to the character of the man placed in a position to attempt to legalize a coup against a lawfully-elected President

The law and order party.

There is no one a Republican will throw under a bus, including a fellow Republican and decorated veteran, to maintain a death grip on power.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:08:36pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

There are idiots that fly the damn Confederate flag in Lancaster Ohio.

That town is the birthplace of William Tecumseh Sherman.

And I bet some of those folks have no idea who Sherman was and what he meant to the whole Confederacy and history.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:10:00pm
111
Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:11:19pm
112
jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:13:56pm

“…complicity of those around the autocrat, supporting abuses for self gain.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:16:05pm
114
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:18:44pm

pretty sure I’ve already seen this movie…

115
TedStriker  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:21:14pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure I’ve already seen this movie…

And it doesn’t end well for humanity.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:23:19pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure I’ve already seen this movie…

[Embedded content]

I didn’t know that plague was a bacterial infection.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:24:04pm

re: #116 Big Beautiful Door

I didn’t know that plague was a bacterial infection.

Yersinia pestis, a fantastically deadly little bugger.

118
Belafon  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:25:31pm

re: #116 Big Beautiful Door

I didn’t know that plague was a bacterial infection.

Which is why the US will be wiped out, but Europe will be mostly fine.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:28:44pm

re: #118 Belafon

Which is why the US will be wiped out, but Europe will be mostly fine.

And that’ll be the second time they’ve done that particular trick, the bastards.

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gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:29:33pm
121
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:29:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:31:57pm

mohr robots…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:33:16pm
124
KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:36:04pm

re: #120 gocart mozart

We really need to fix copyright laws. There should be a way for copyright holders who still have a profitable property to protect it, if they so wish, while allowing other things to fall into the public domain.

I think a renewable copyright with a substantial publication requirement makes the most sense. Make the original copyright the life of the author plus some amount of years or a set number of years for an entity like we have now, and then have the copyright renewable for shorter and shorter periods of time - 10 years, 5 years, 2 years, annually; but require some sort of substantial publication (not just running Steamboat Willy at 3:00 am on the third Saturday of June on the Disney Channel) within the prior 3 years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:38:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:39:17pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m loving the hashtags
#devilslettuce #saferthanromainelettuce

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:41:48pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m loving the hashtags
#devilslettuce #saferthanromainelettuce

safer than romaine until the FDA starts to deregulate the market!

Which raises an interesting question: how do you deregulate a market that has no regulations?

128
The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2018 • 2:42:16pm
129
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:01:34pm

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

It can be very difficult for average people to distinguish fake news from real news outlets, said journalist Sarah Kendzior.

I still have a terrible crush on Sarah K

Even wrote her to tell her that.

Never got a response.

130
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:04:29pm

re: #99 KGxvi

Our system of government is ultimately designed to generate consensus. You need to get 218 of 435 people from 50 different states to agree to something, then you need to get 51 of 100 other people from those 50 states to agree to that exact same thing in the exact same language, then you need a president to sign off on it and enforce it, then you have the courts to make sure its constitutional and being implemented/enforced fairly. Oh, and we stagger our elections to prevent political fads from taking hold.

Unfortunately, this all breaks down when you have people involved who don’t believe in compromise or building toward a consensus. And that’s where we are now.

Now imagine that you need the support of a majority in 25 nations and you see why the EU is turning into a major headache.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:08:06pm

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still have a terrible crush on Sarah K

Even wrote her to tell her that.

Never got a response.

What are we gonna do with you Wendell?

You didn’t get into the whole smoking in bed after thing did you?

: ) /

132
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:10:21pm

oh dear…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:13:27pm
135
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:14:24pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jay C  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:14:29pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

[Embedded content]

She was trying to get away incognito, right…?

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:15:01pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

[Embedded content]

Yeesh…what a couple.

The images in the tweet link to the Cinci news article make her look even more crazy. He is a piece of work too.

Youngstowners. I often mention the area is ‘rough.’

138
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:17:28pm

re: #131 ObserverArt

What are we gonna do with you Wendell?

You didn’t get into the whole smoking in bed after thing did you?

: ) /

well, not all the details…I told it was okay, I have a girlfriend who is educated and intelligent and versed in economics and we sit up and discuss things in bed (she doesn’t smoke, though)

139
Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:18:20pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

[Embedded content]

They need to arrest her tattoo artist.

140
Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:19:06pm

re: #135 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Dear Penthouse…..

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:19:48pm

Newborn at The Columbus Zoo.

142
gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:24:46pm

An Italian joke

143
jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:27:04pm
144
jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:27:41pm

Re-elected Ted Cruz, still a piece of shit.

145
gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:28:16pm

Yes, this is satire

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:31:27pm

re: #143 jaunte

Included in the bill (per the story):

A work-authorized Social Security Number (SSN) will be required to claim refundable tax credits like Earned Income Tax Credit or Child Tax Credit

Welfare applicants will be required to verify citizenship

Minimum fines will be increased for people who illegally cross the border and a minimum penalty will be established for those who overstay their visa in the country.

And how exactly does he plan to get 60 votes in the Senate?

147
Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:34:10pm

re: #98 Barefoot Grin

Oh no. Pete Shelley has died. RIP. Loved the Buzzcocks.

[Embedded content]

Sorry to quote myself, but purists are reminding us that it is not “The Buzzcocks” but simply “Buzzcocks.” I have the same problems with the Tottenham team name. Anyway, one band i was in did play “Ever Fallen in Love.”

148
retired cynic  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:36:48pm
149
gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:37:42pm

Abolish the Senate!

150
jaunte  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:37:52pm

re: #146 KGxvi

It’s another stunt.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:39:59pm

re: #150 jaunte

It’s another stunt.

Red meat for the base. Gotta keep ‘em energized, yanno.

152
gocart mozart  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:40:29pm
153
goddamnedfrank  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:43:46pm

re: #58 ObserverArt

A great point about Trump’s Mueller issues and how he is going to fight the report when it comes out was just made on Nicole Wallace’s MSNBC show.

It is being reported the White House has no plans for a come back. I think there were some tweets mentioning that around here.

NY Times reporter Nick Confessore said the problem for the White House legal team is Trump most likely has not fessed up to his own lawyers what he has done, so they have no idea what faces them if he is in deep with Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc.

I hadn’t considered that. Good chance they have no clue what Trump may have done because he is probably both withholding facts and lying to them because that is what he does.

If that Report is a real bomb, I think his lawyers might just hang him out to dry because how do you represent a client that won’t tell you the truth?

This is the reason that John Dowd quit after the mock interview they set up turned into an epic shit show and why he’s on his third tier of personal outside lawyers which is mostly just Giuliani yelling at clouds. It’s also why White House Counsel Don McGahn eventually quit, why in-house Special Counsel Ty Cobb gave up. None of these lawyers trusts Trump to come clean with them and help them to prepare a competent defense, so they’re just stuck waiting for the axe to fall.

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:46:12pm

re: #146 KGxvi

And this wont save a dime, but actually cost more to implement and enforce. Same as always - and that means the costs to enforce come out of the program itself, reducing available funds.

Same as always.

It’s like drug testing for welfare recipients. It’s a giveaway to drug testing companies, which find folks on these programs aren’t using drugs and get millions in payments that come out of the program funding - reducing the available funds.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:46:21pm

re: #143 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Here’s a deal, Ted. We give you ten bucks and you leave.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:47:15pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

[Embedded content]

Well gotta admit, robbery and drugs was probably the only employers that would call her back for a second interview.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:52:44pm

re: #146 KGxvi

Included in the bill (per the story):

And how exactly does he plan to get 60 votes in the Senate?

Doesn’t need 60 votes

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:53:34pm

re: #58 ObserverArt

A great point about Trump’s Mueller issues and how he is going to fight the report when it comes out was just made on Nicole Wallace’s MSNBC show.

It is being reported the White House has no plans for a come back. I think there were some tweets mentioning that around here.

NY Times reporter Nick Confessore said the problem for the White House legal team is Trump most likely has not fessed up to his own lawyers what he has done, so they have no idea what faces them if he is in deep with Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc.

I hadn’t considered that. Good chance they have no clue what Trump may have done because he is probably both withholding facts and lying to them because that is what he does.

If that Report is a real bomb, I think his lawyers might just hang him out to dry because how do you represent a client that won’t tell you the truth?

I suspect they still think they can just round file/top drawer the report and nobody will do anything about it. Afterall, the special counsel just has to file his report with the AG, and the AG doesn’t actually have to release the report.

The interesting bit in that second link, though, is this:

The Attorney General will notify the Chairman and Ranking Minority Member of the Judiciary Committees of each House of Congress, with an explanation for each action -

Upon conclusion of the Special Counsels investigation, including, to the extent consistent with applicable law, a description and explanation of instances (if any) in which the Attorney General concluded that a proposed action by a Special Counsel was so inappropriate or unwarranted under established Departmental practices that it should not be pursued.

That’s probably why they haven’t tried to actually stop Mueller, because at some point, they’ll have to explain why.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:53:53pm

re: #81 Romantic Heretic

He may be senile but how can anyone have a plan when Trump ignores everything you may advise. The only plans that offer themselves are (1) pleading insanity on behalf of your client or (2) finding the best time to make a quick departure plea bargain.

FTFY.

I’m thinking more along the lines of what Giuliani is going to do — i.e. give up and leave because even he can no longer deal with Trump, unless you believe that he is so entangled that he has to get a deal for himself, which is certainly possible.

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KGxvi  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:56:34pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Doesn’t need 60 votes

I thought the reconciliation window had closed.

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makeitstop  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:56:40pm

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m thinking more along the lines of what Giuliani is going to do — i.e. give up and leave because even he can no longer deal with Trump, unless you believe that he is so entangled that he has to get a deal for himself, which is certainly possible.

He certainly knew about the Comey letter beforehand, going on to Fox and giggling about hos something was going to shake up the race a couple of days before the letter came out.

I think there’s a high likelihood that Rudy was involved in getting that letter out.

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MsJ  Dec 6, 2018 • 3:57:54pm

Hmmm… Perhaps what someone mentioned above about Rudy saving his own ass could be on the money.

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:03:41pm

So I’m reading in People magazine about Priyanka Chopra and Nick Jonas’ wedding which, yes, seems was a truly beautiful pair of ceremonies (Christian and Hindu). But…

Her red dress took 3800 hours of work; her white dress 1800 hours. Those two dresses, all by themselves, took 30 people working full-time for a month. Then there’s clothes for the rest of the bridal party, and the flowers, and the food, and the fireworks. In a country where 600 million people have no access to clean water.

Am I the only one who finds this extravagance Exhibit A that inequality really has reached torches and pitchforks level?

(I don’t think William and Kate spent as much on their wedding as Priyanka and Nick; and William and Kate at least generated a gazillion dollars in tourism and other spending with their event.)

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Teddy's Person  Dec 6, 2018 • 4:18:27pm

re: #148 retired cynic

The only thing that would have made this more awesome is if they sang it a la Schoolhouse Rocks.

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Orville Peck - ‘Turn to Hate’ (Live at WFUV)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Orville Peck performs "Turn To Hate" live in Studio A. Recorded 4/26/19. Host: Russ BorrisAudio: Jim O'HaraCameras: Nora Doyle, Dan Tuozzoli, Brian Gallagher and Michael L'AbbbateEditor: Nora Doyle and Dan Tuozzoli
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Vampire Weekend - This Life (Official Video)Father of the Bride available now: smarturl.it #VampireWeekend #FatherOfTheBride
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Molly Tuttle at Paste Studio NYC Live From the Manhattan Center1. Take the Journey 0:232. Messed With My Mind 6:393. Sleepwalking 12:214. Light Came In (Power Went Out) 18:11 Watch Molly Tuttle live at Paste Studio NYC! More sessions and interviews here: pastemagazine.com Audio: Bob MalloryVideo: Brad Wagner
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The Raconteurs - ‘Help Me Stranger’ (Official Music Video) Music video for The Raconteurs new single “Help Me Stranger” from their forthcoming album HELP US STRANGER – out June 21st. Pre-order & pre-save HELP US STRANGER here: theraconteurs.lnk.to Director: Yasuhiko ShimizuDirector of Photography: Shunya AraiProducer: Takashi SugaiStylist: Tomohiko ...
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‘The Maldives Mystery’ Resolved This is a response to the Academic Agent's "Climate Change -- The Maldives Mystery." I am currently on assignment and won't be able to list sources for at least another week. My apologies for the delay. This is also ...
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Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (Official Movie) Ft. Billy Ray Cyrus Official video for Lil Nas X’s Billboard #1 hit, “Old Town Road (Remix)” featuring Billy Ray Cyrus. Special guest appearances from Chris Rock, Haha Davis, Rico Nasty, Diplo, Jozzy, Young Kio, and Vince Staples. Listen & Download “Old Town ...
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Down on the PromenadeProvided to YouTube by CDBaby Down On the Promenade · Marc Monroe Copasetic ℗ 2013 Mark Kelton Released on: 2013-04-23 Auto-generated by YouTube.
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Dido - Take You Home (Official Video) The official video for Take You Home, taken from Dido's new album, Still On My Mind. Buy now: dido.lnk.to Follow DidoOfficial site - didomusic.comFacebook - facebook.com Instagram - instagram.comTwitter - @didoofficial Jordan Rossi (Video Producer), John RankinWaddell (Video Director) ...
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Norah Jones - Begin Again (Live on the Today Show)‘Begin Again’ comes from Norah Jones’s latest compilation of the same name.Listen to the full compilation here: norahjones.lnk.to See Norah live: norahjones.lnk.to Connect with Norah:norahjones.comfacebook.com@norahjonesinstagram.com #NorahJones #BeginAgain vevo.ly
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