Tuesday Night Cuban Jazz: Harold Lopez-Nussa Trio: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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Dec. 14, 2018 | Felix Contreras — Cuba is known as much for their pianists as their percussionists — you’ll see why with this performance.

Cuban pianist Harold López-Nussa and his trio open their performance with some help from a recording of famed Afro-Cuban folkloric singer Lázaro Ros. Ros is both a musical and spiritual guide for this performance; the trio dug deep into the ritual music of santeria for inspiration with “Eleguá,” a tribute to one of the Afro-Cuban deities. (Special mention should be made of Harold’s brother, Ruy López-Nussa, on drums, and bassist Gastón Joya, who both fill the spaces between the beats while elegantly leaving breathing room within the performances.)

“Preludio” demonstrates the telepathic connection between these musicians, while subtlety and emotion are not sacrificed for the slower tempo.

“Hialeah” has the recognizable piano riffs — called guajeos — that we can recognize as originating with Cuban dance music, but the trio deftly melds that rhythm to a complex jazz exploration, without compromising its danceable pulse.

Set List
“Elegua”
“Preludio (to José Juan)”
“Hialeah”

Credits
Producers: Felix Contreras, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Kaylee Domzalski; Production Assistant: Brie Martin; Photo: Cameron Pollack/NPR

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retired cynic  Dec 18, 2018 • 8:20:46pm

Oh, I love this, Charles!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2018 • 8:43:35pm

Two nuns stole $500,000 from a Catholic school in Torrance, Calif. to gamble in Las Vegas.

presstelegram.com

The nuns laundered cheques to the school through a forgotten bank account of the school to embezzle the money. The Catholic Church is not willing to file a complaint against the nuns, though they are working with the police department on the matter.

The nun’s order says they will repay the school, and the nuns have been removed from the ministry.

Two longtime nuns at St. James Catholic School in Torrance allegedly embezzled as much as $500,000 in tuition, fees and donations, perhaps spending some of the money on trips and gambling at casinos while telling parents the school was operating on a shoestring budget, officials and parents said.

The figure represents only what auditors have been able to trace in six years’ of bank records and might not include other cash transactions, officials from the Archdiocese of Los Angeles told parents and alumni at a meeting Monday night at St. James Catholic Church in Redondo Beach. An audio recording of the two-hour meeting was obtained by the Southern California News Group.

(more, detailing the scheme)

Presumably they are forgiven now. If the Church won’t press charges, I presume they won’t go to jail, either. Nice racket.

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plansbandc  Dec 18, 2018 • 8:52:08pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 18, 2018 • 8:57:23pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

Doesn’t include the $100,000 spent on male strippers…

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plansbandc  Dec 18, 2018 • 8:58:33pm

I appreciate it when cartoonists really capture the true fatty dumpiness.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2018 • 9:08:16pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

It’s like Sister Act but in reverse.

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2018 • 9:19:21pm

It’s just a compilation album, not a FZ album proper. Still, when I heard it when I was 18 it was the strangest funniest most challenging music I had heard up to that point.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 18, 2018 • 9:28:52pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

1967…never heard anything like it before. Became a Frank fan the first minute I listened.

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2018 • 9:33:11pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

Frank’s very first record! The first song on it is still relevant today.

Hungry Freaks, Daddy

Mr. America, walk on by your schools that do not teach
Mr. America, walk on by the minds that won’t be reached
Mr. America try to hide the emptiness that’s you inside
But once you find that the way you lied
And all the corny tricks you tried
Will not forestall the rising tide of HUNGRY FREAKS DADDY!
They won’t go on four no more
Great mid-western hardware store
Philosophy that turns away
From those who aren’t afraid to say what’s on their minds
The left behinds of the great society
HUNGRY FREAKS, DADDY!
Mr. America, walk on by your supermarket dream
Mr. America, walk on by the liquor store supreme
Mr. America try to hide the product of your savage pride
The useful minds that it denied
The day you shrugged and stepped aside
You saw their clothes, and then you cried,
“Those HUNGRY FREAKS, DADDY!”
They won’t go on four no more
Great mid-western hardware store
Philosophy that turns away
From those who aren’t afraid to say what’s on their minds
The left behinds of the great society

For Christmas years ago, when I was living in Steamboat Springs, my father put his vinyl copy he had - which he bought at a record store in Grand Junction in 1966, and is in fair condition - in a frame and gave it to me as a gift.

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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2018 • 9:40:25pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2018 • 9:44:42pm

re: #10 austin_blue

A few years ago I discovered the 1980s version of King Crimson. It has really grown on me.

King Crimson - Matte Kudasai (Live Frejus ‘82)

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2018 • 9:53:28pm
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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2018 • 9:54:34pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

A few years ago I discovered the 1980s version of King Crimson. It has really grown on me.

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Lark Tongues was special for me. Also that year or so was Europe ‘72 by the GD, Close to the Edge by Yes, Can’t Buy a Thrill from Steely Dan, and Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd.

Great year for albums. Oddly, ‘73/’74 had some of the worst radio singles ever made.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:01:19pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:07:32pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:14:03pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:14:15pm
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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:15:29pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

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Niche markets, eh? The Smokiest! The Peatiest!

I’m an Islands guy by nature, so I like a fair crack of peat and iodine (Laphroiag 10 is always a lovely dram), but charred barrel aged whiskies have never appealed.

A lot of that is going on now with American whiskies, too. Give me a straight oak-aged rye anytime.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:20:02pm
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Belafon  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:26:15pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

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It’s just a compilation album, not a FZ album proper. Still, when I heard it when I was 18 it was the strangest funniest most challenging music I had heard up to that point.

The Cocteau Twins’ Victorialand.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:38:56pm

Nate Silver has a bad take about Tucker Carlson boycott.

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Belafon  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:42:11pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nate Silver has a bad take about Tucker Carlson boycott.

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I understand where he’s coming from - think of James Gunn and Disney - but I don’t think Fox should be getting any advertising money. They can stand on the street corner and yell.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:43:11pm

I wonder if he supports a law requiring sponsors stay with their shows until the show runs its course. Really, they have a right not to advertise on a show for what ever fucking reason they god damn want.

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freetoken  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:47:06pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:49:55pm

re: #23 Single-handed sailor

I wonder if he supports a law requiring sponsors stay with their shows until the show runs its course. Really, they have a right not to advertise on a show for what ever fucking reason they god damn want.

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Jason Munro  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:51:25pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The PR firm for Applebe’s is not deciding what is racist. They are deciding what they want their brand associated with, which is thankfully not racism. I think Nate might sing a different tune if he worked for the Applebee’s PR department.

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2018 • 10:54:04pm
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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2018 • 11:06:22pm

re: #23 Single-handed sailor

I wonder if he supports a law requiring sponsors stay with their shows until the show runs its course. Really, they have a right not to advertise on a show for what ever fucking reason they god damn want.

That’s exactly right. It’s a BUSINESS DECISION. It’s their money, and they can choose or not choose to spend it it on any media outlet that they think will increase their traffic and profit. That’s Capitalism, red in tooth and claw.

If they think Tucker fucked the dog, and that it will hurt their bottom line, they have every right to pull their dollars from his show. This is not rocket science. This is marketing.

I’m off to bed. Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

Will today be indictment Wednesday? The world wonders, but I know what I want Santa Baby to put in my stocking this year.

Hint: Junior.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2018 • 11:14:22pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2018 • 11:16:10pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2018 • 11:31:33pm

At about 3 p.m. today I started hiking up the ski area using climbing skins on my skis, the second time I’ve done such a thing this winter. I was passed up by five other uphillers in the first quarter of the climb. I wanted to take off my skins and turn around so many times, I even depleted my water bottle about two thirds of the way up. But I got to a point where the vista was just grand (sunset, with alpenglow on high mountains visible to the east) I just kept walking. I made it to the top of Compass Peak, there was nobody up there, and I watched part of the sunset while I removed my skins and caught my breath.

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William Lewis  Dec 18, 2018 • 11:49:11pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

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It’s just a compilation album, not a FZ album proper. Still, when I heard it when I was 18 it was the strangest funniest most challenging music I had heard up to that point.

Late 77 early 78 my father, a janitor at the local university brought home the record that had been left laying around. It would do that to me:

Nothing like that on the radio, full of energy, humor and joie de vivre.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2018 • 11:56:30pm

I’ve been listening to this for the past hour.

Mississippi Fred Mc Dowell - Mississippi Blues

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 19, 2018 • 12:17:20am

I applied for a new passport at the embassy in Beijing on Dec. 7. The new one arrived today! I’m amazed. Anyway, I will nip into Beijing tomorrow to pick it up. There’s no waiting. I just show my passport and the payment receipt for the new one, and they wave me in.

What awaits me is more complex. I have to have my working papers and residence permit amended to reflect the new passport number and expiry. Not looking forward to that, because it takes two or three trips to various government offices to make it happen. And they could decide at any point to not renew anything, and I’d need to leave China — again — in a jiffy.

So, cross your fingers and all that.

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freetoken  Dec 19, 2018 • 12:35:08am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 19, 2018 • 12:52:30am

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Advertisers can stop supporting Tucker for any reason. This is a business decision. They don’t want to be associated with someone they deem controversial. I see nothing wrong with that.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 19, 2018 • 12:53:23am
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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 12:56:08am

re: #37 Single-handed sailor

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They’re desperate because this was their last big chance, next year they’re gonna find absolutely no stomach whatsoever in Congress for a “big, beautiful wall.” So now they have to find some way, any way, to come up with something they can call a “win” before 2020. Hence Donny coming out to declare that his “big, beautiful wall” will not be built of concrete like Dems say, but instead of steel slats that will look…oh, wait, exactly like the fence line already in place.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 19, 2018 • 1:07:05am

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nate Silver has a bad take about Tucker Carlson boycott.

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He really didn’t think this through. There’s light years of difference between a boycott and violating genuine civil rights protections. You can’t (and shouldn’t try to) force consumers to buy things they don’t want to, but the government can (and should) force places of public accommodation to serve the entire public regardless of protected class such as race, gender, sexual identity, or religion.

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freetoken  Dec 19, 2018 • 1:15:39am

Time to break out the good stuff for 2018 for the midweek hump faithful… one of my perennial Christmas favorites:

MP3 Audio

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 1:24:04am

I can’t help but think that Nate’s real reason for opposing such a boycott is not so much personal as it is financial, as in a worry that he might find himself subjected to such a boycott in the future and is afraid his own money train will be cut off.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 19, 2018 • 1:36:21am
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Scout  Dec 19, 2018 • 1:39:51am

re: #34 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I applied for a new passport at the embassy in Beijing on Dec. 7. The new one arrived today! I’m amazed. Anyway, I will nip into Beijing tomorrow to pick it up. There’s no waiting. I just show my passport and the payment receipt for the new one, and they wave me in.

What awaits me is more complex. I have to have my working papers and residence permit amended to reflect the new passport number and expiry. Not looking forward to that, because it takes two or three trips to various government offices to make it happen. And they could decide at any point to not renew anything, and I’d need to leave China — again — in a jiffy.

So, cross your fingers and all that.

Last time I needed a new passport, about a year ago, it took the embassy in Tokyo exactly one week. Nice and quick. And no visit to the embassy. It was done by good old Japan Post. (The embassy here does not want anyone to actually visit it. Been that way since 9/11.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:03:32am

Well, we’ll see if Scrub-a-palooza is a clean sweep. About 20 minutes to go—looks like it’s already delayed 10, which is the usual first step:

youtube.com

Don’t know why it didn’t embed this time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:11:04am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:18:42am

re: #46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Try again:

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This channel is over a minute ahead of that one

Launch of GSLV- F11 / GSAT-7A Mission – Live from Satish Dhawan Space Centre (SHAR), Sriharikota

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:34:59am

GSLV- F11 / GSAT-7A T-Minus 5 minutes, and counting

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:39:23am

re: #48 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

GSLV- F11 / GSAT-7A T-Minus 5 minutes, and counting

T-Minus 1 minute, and counting

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:44:01am

Them boys need to slap a couple of cameras on their rockets.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:51:39am

I grew up on AM radio and didn’t really start listening to AOR on FM until I was about 14, about 1978. I had bought a couple albums but the first one that had impact on me was Disraeli Gears by Cream. I actually taped that off the radio (WYSP would play six albums every Sunday night). That was the first album I would listen to from beginning to end.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:53:42am

re: #51 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

It was one of those albums where the big hit (Tales of Brave Ulysses) was my least favorite track. Who are You was another one

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:58:44am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:00:58am

Damn, Blue Origin’s New Shepard launch pushed to NET Friday Dec. 21st, time TBD

Still on tap today
Spacex Falcon 9 launch window 14:07-14:33 UTC (9:07-9:33am EST; 6:07-6:44am PST)
Soyuz STA/Fregat | CSO 1 launch time 1637:14 UTC (11:37:14am EST; 8:37:14am PST)
Delta IV Heavy | NROL-71 launch time 01:44 UTC on 20th (8:44pm EST; 5:44pm PST on 19th)

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:01:46am

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Sounds like one of the squirrels from a Farmers Insurance ad. Lol.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:03:10am

re: #53 Targetpractice

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Why did advertisers only figure out now that he was a bigoted douche? He’s been spewing hateful nonsense for years now.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:05:39am

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

Why did advertisers only figure out now that he was a bigoted douche? He’s been spewing hateful nonsense for years now.

Because the people he’s attacking now have faces and they’re the faces of young children, people who advertisers really have a hard time seeing slagged on prime-time TV.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:07:46am

When did the Post Office start locking their package drop offs after hours? I am talking about the roll-door drops for large packages. These are in 24/7 lobby areas but they can only be used during business hours. I am sure I have used them in the past but I went to 2 different post offices tonight and found them locked; the door won’t open and there is no play at all in it so it is not jammed with some idiocrat’s misshapen package. This is goddamned inconvenient, especially during the consumer holidays when the post office is jammed solid during business hours and parking is impossible.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:28:43am

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

When did the Post Office start locking their package drop offs after hours? I am talking about the roll-door drops for large packages. These are in 24/7 lobby areas but they can only be used during business hours. I am sure I have used them in the past but I went to 2 different post offices tonight and found them locked; the door won’t open and there is no play at all in it so it is not jammed with some idiocrat’s misshapen package. This is goddamned inconvenient, especially during the consumer holidays when the post office is jammed solid during business hours and parking is impossible.

It is a post 9/11 thing. You may not drop anything over 13 ounces unattended.

Moreover, the Post Office redesigned mailboxes a couple years ago so you could only open them up slightly to insert a letter or padded envelope. (Our town just had its mailbox replaced.)

It has been many years since the Post Office allowed dropping off unattended packages.

In larger cities the Post Office will put on extra people to have the office open beyond normal hours (also April 15).

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Alephnaught  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:40:50am

This is not a drill…

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:45:31am

re: #60 Alephnaught

This is not a drill…

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If this is an effort by May to scare MPs into voting for her deal…it’s not going to work. Many of those who are opposed do so because they think the deal’s already giving too much away to the EU, so given a choice between it and crashing out of the EU but regaining “sovereignty”? Yeah, they’re gonna go with the latter. And those who aren’t prepared for that are still deluded enough to believe that the EU gives so much of a damn about the UK’s future that they’ll renegotiate a “better” deal, said deal not being in any way defined other than “We keep all the bennies of being EU members without any of the obligations thereof.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:51:17am

re: #7 teleskiguy

Here’s a fun question: what one album changed your musical tastes, and expanded your musical horizons, more than any other? (This isn’t just your favorite — it’s the one you heard when you were a teen that led you out of your original music rut.)

Birds of Fire, John McLaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra, which also led me to Miles Davis…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:54:57am

re: #10 austin_blue

Lark Tongues in Aspic, 1973:

another one of my teenage faves

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:56:32am

Remember back in the days when the dumbest thing uttered by Donny’s lawyers was “This will all be over by next year”?

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 3:58:16am

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn, Blue Origin’s New Shepard launch pushed to NET Friday Dec. 21st, time TBD

Still on tap today
Spacex Falcon 9 launch window 14:07-14:33 UTC (9:07-9:33am EST; 6:07-6:44am PST)
Soyuz STA/Fregat | CSO 1 launch time 1637:14 UTC (11:37:14am EST; 8:37:14am PST)
Delta IV Heavy | NROL-71 launch time 01:44 UTC on 20th (8:44pm EST; 5:44pm PST on 19th)

Scratch Space X. They scrubbed the launch.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:07:09am

This is a perfectly normal statement from a guy who is in no way scared of where Mueller’s investigation is going:

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Sufficient unto the day...  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:17:10am
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Dizzy  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:23:18am

This one. This is it. This album changed everything for me.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:24:44am

re: #44 Scout

Last time I needed a new passport, about a year ago, it took the embassy in Tokyo exactly one week. Nice and quick. And no visit to the embassy. It was done by good old Japan Post. (The embassy here does not want anyone to actually visit it. Been that way since 9/11.)

I would do the mail delivery option, but I have exactly 10 days from the “time of collection” to re-apply for my working papers, etc. We didn’t want to risk losing even 2 days for delivery delays. So I’m dropping the $90 to run to Beijing myself to fetch it.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:32:37am

I grew up in a home where “Folk” music of the 60’s was the daily fair. Then at 13, I found this. Boom.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:35:34am

I haven’t checked the usual suspects or did any tweet mining, but I imagine that wingnuts are calling Judge Sullivan everything but “fair” or “impartial” today.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:39:59am

Oh, more happy news from computer-land.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:41:08am

And it awakes to spout forth nonsense.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:42:16am

re: #7 teleskiguy

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It’s just a compilation album, not a FZ album proper. Still, when I heard it when I was 18 it was the strangest funniest most challenging music I had heard up to that point.

For me, OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:42:16am

Original tweet, now deleted.

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
8m8 minutes ago

In our Country, so much money has been poured down the drain, for so many years, but the Democrats fight us like cats and dogs when it comes to spending on Boarder Security (including a Wall) and the Military. We won on the Military, it is being completely rebuilt. We will win…

Replacement tweet.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:43:26am

re: #73 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

And it awakes to spout forth nonsense.

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Yes…I remember when our military was decimated due to lack of funding.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:49:14am

re: #76 Mike Lamb

Yes…I remember when our military was decimated due to lack of funding.

//

They were forced to use swords and horses, and sailing ships.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 4:52:03am

“One way or another” is pretty much an admission by this point that he’s lost his bid to get the funding via Congress. Dems have not only told him that $5B isn’t happening, they told Mitch that a $1B “slush fund” is likewise a fucking dream. Hence the tweet last night about “steel slats,” the inevitable moving of the goalposts to argue that anything short of a concrete wall still counts as a “win.”

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Dave In Austin  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:01:10am
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jeffreyw  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:05:38am

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Good morning!

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MsJ  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:08:36am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:09:06am

re: #80 jeffreyw

Breakfast of a different nature….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:11:24am

re: #81 MsJ

Facebook needs to die

I post nothing on FB unless I am cool with the thought that the entire world can see it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:18:11am

I think Nate doesn’t get why advertisers do this. Applebee’s PR is deciding they don’t want their brand associated with Nate’s words someone who may be a racist or playing one. Applebee’s is a brand after all. There’s no law saying Tucker must have advertisers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:20:13am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I think Nate doesn’t get why advertisers do this. Applebee’s PR is deciding they don’t want their brand associated with Nate’s words someone who may be a racist or playing one. Applebee’s is a brand after all. There’s no law saying Tucker must have advertisers.

I am really tired of this line of argument, it shows a total lack of understanding about the First Amendment and Free Speech and the modern concept of “de-platforming”

Government shall make no law…”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:21:40am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am really tired of this line of argument, it shows a total lack of understanding about the First Amendment and Free Speech and the modern concept of “de-platforming”

Government shall make no law…”

Exactly. Get back that to me when the government fines or jails Tucker or tells him he can’t have a show because of what he says.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:21:49am
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MsJ  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:23:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:23:50am

Remember when GHW Bush called for a protest boycott of Warner Brothers Records over Cop Killer?

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MsJ  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:25:42am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I think Nate doesn’t get why advertisers do this. Applebee’s PR is deciding they don’t want their brand associated with Nate’s words someone who may be a racist or playing one. Applebee’s is a brand after all. There’s no law saying Tucker must have advertisers.

Imma gonna do a yabbut… Applebee’s didn’t give a shit until it became widely discussed. So these companies do in fact support racist assholes until it’s inconvenient for them.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:34:12am

re: #90 MsJ

Imma gonna do a yabbut… Applebee’s didn’t give a shit until it became widely discussed. So these companies do in fact support racist assholes until it’s inconvenient for them.

True. I have love for them either.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:35:38am

re: #88 MsJ

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That’s Troy Donahue. Isn’t it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:35:47am

re: #90 MsJ

Imma gonna do a yabbut… Applebee’s didn’t give a shit until it became widely discussed. So these companies do in fact support racist assholes until it’s inconvenient for them.

This is known in debating terms as a “yeahbuttal”.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:37:02am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is known in debating terms as a “yeahbuttal”.

One step down from a “Well, actually….”

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:42:57am

Faux & Frauds are pissed:

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Alephnaught  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:45:05am

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

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MsJ  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:45:27am

re: #92 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s Troy Donahue. Isn’t it?

It’s trump in a dream sequence… Or something.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:50:20am

re: #96 Alephnaught

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It’s a cliche but Harry Smith’s Anthology of American folk. I had read it was so influential on the musicians of the 60’s in the folk revival and I immediately saw why. It made me love music at its most raw.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:50:41am

re: #96 Alephnaught

I watched the whole thing!!!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:51:04am

re: #95 Targetpractice

Faux & Frauds are pissed:

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Haha. Can’t wait to see him lash at Fucks and Fiends.

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steve_davis  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:54:27am

re: #7 teleskiguy

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It’s just a compilation album, not a FZ album proper. Still, when I heard it when I was 18 it was the strangest funniest most challenging music I had heard up to that point.

When I was about 10, in 1975, my brother gave me three albums out of his collection. Changed my musical tastes in a good way forever after:

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 5:54:42am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Haha. Can’t wait to see him lash at Fucks and Fiends.

He’s not going to do that, but what he is going to do is bellow even louder that he’s totally going to make the wall happen…even while he’s backpeddling like a mad man.

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steve_davis  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:02:47am

re: #52 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

It was one of those albums where the big hit (Tales of Brave Ulysses) was my least favorite track. Who are You was another one

my favorite is Schlabwr. that thing is just three lads ripping it up.

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Alephnaught  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:03:31am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

It’s a cliche but Harry Smith’s Anthology of American folk. I had read it was so influential on the musicians of the 60’s in the folk revival and I immediately saw why. It made me love music at its most raw.

What I find interesting about McLaren’s record now is the way he linked the old square dance traditions to the (then) modern hip-hop scene. It’s seems to have a been a recurring feature of his career to take an up-and-coming cutting edge culture, and link it to “romantic” trope of the past.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:04:08am

Probably the only jazz album in our seminary day room:

Adieu Madraz

(Yeah— the subject of Green Book. He got his doctorate from Catholic University.)

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:04:34am

‘Are You Experienced?’ woke me up. ‘Axis: Bold As Love’ kept me there.

Bold as Love

Nobody before or since highlighted the possibilities of the electric guitar like Jimi. Nobody.

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MsJ  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:04:45am

re: #95 Targetpractice

Faux & Frauds are pissed:

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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:04:54am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s always a joy to come into the overnight thread to see all the music videos posted, from a wide range of genres. King Crimson to Dave Brubeck to Frank Zappa.

It’s a welcome respite from the shitshow that is Trumpworld.

For instance, Rudy’s now claiming that Trump signing letter of intent to do Trump Moscow tower is irrelevant, when it’s highly relevant given who was paying, how the funding was structured, and most importantly - who was involved and why.

Trump’s legal team isn’t very good because they’re signaling all the crimes they’re doing. More than that, Trump always projects his actions on to his enemies. He always thinks people like Clinton did criminal acts, because these are the very things he was doing.

Trump’s scam school? Trump’s foundation? They’re scams and engaged in self dealing and were schemes to enrich Trump personally, while breaking multiple laws. The Trump Foundation is being shuttered under court supervision because it was a scam, and the investigation continues as to tax fraud, evasion, and money laundering.

Everyone who knew anything about Trump was warning on all this from 2015 forwards. This isn’t new. It’s just confirmation of what we’d been warning and suspecting. Turns out that the criminality is even more widespread than some thought.

Turns out that Trump’s house of cards was really just that - and all with the dead man’s hand too.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:07:07am

re: #106 makeitstop

‘Are You Experienced?’ woke me up. ‘Axis: Bold As Love’ kept me there.

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Nobody before or since highlighted the possibilities of the electric guitar like Jimi. Nobody.

Little Wing was my fav.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:07:25am

re: #107 MsJ

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It’s more than that, they’re pissed that the GOP and Trump alike seem to be trying to back out of this suicide pact that Faux talked them into.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:07:43am

re: #107 MsJ

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By last night Freep had more than 300 comments on the non-wall. Very, very unhappy Freepers, especially on the day of the bumpstock ban. Robinson had to post a warning on etiquette and decorum.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:11:18am

re: #111 Decatur Deb

By last night Freep had more than 300 comments on the non-wall. Very, very unhappy Freepers, especially on the day of the bumpstock ban. Robinson had to post a warning on etiquette and decorum.

Ready to spill American blood for their bumpstock I’m sure…..

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:12:32am

re: #12 Single-handed sailor

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Panel of 10th Circuit judges dismisses judicial misconduct complaints against Justice Brett Kavanaugh, ruling that as a Supreme Court justice he is no longer covered by the law prescribing rules of conduct for federal judges: /blockquote>

You run fast enough long enough and the statue of limitations or other circumstances pass and POOF! You are innocent.

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:15:41am

re: #109 Dave In Austin

Little Wing was my fav.

We had this conversation last week - due to all the cover versions (SRV notwithstanding) and bad bar-takes, that’s the one Hendrix song that I can either take or leave.

Not Jimi’s fault, though. It’s a beautiful song.

And while I’m waxing about Jimi - few people acknowledge the stylistic debt he owes to Curtis Mayfield.

Electric Ladyland

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:16:12am

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nate Silver has a bad take about Tucker Carlson boycott.

However, I don’t want the PR department of Applebee’s deciding for us all what’s racist vs. legitimate/acceptable political speech

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They aren’t Nate. They are deciding what kind of speech they don’t want their brand associated with

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:16:22am

re: #90 MsJ

Imma gonna do a yabbut… Applebee’s didn’t give a shit until it became widely discussed. So these companies do in fact support racist assholes until it’s inconvenient for them.

Morning!

A lot of times the companies don’t know they are advertising on a show like Carlson’s until they hear from people about it.

They have ad placement buyers that do studies of demographics and then they put the ads out to places they think they can hit those demos. And that is all controlled through Applebees ad agency.

Of course they also have shows that are popular that the company big wigs will push to be on…so…

By the way…anyone know if SpaceX is going to launch this morning? I have their site up and nothing is going on yet. It says it will be live in two minutes…5 minutes ago.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:17:04am

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Ready to spill American blood for their bumpstock I’m sure…..

Announcement of our $10B foreign aid package for Central America was the anchovy on their ice-cream sundae.

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:17:28am

re: #26 Jason Munro

The PR firm for Applebe’s is not deciding what is racist. They are deciding what they want their brand associated with, which is thankfully not racism. I think Nate might sing a different tune if he worked for the Applebee’s PR department.

Spot on
Once again I should just read the thread before commenting.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:18:10am

re: #73 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:19:31am

re: #116 ObserverArt

Morning!

A lot of times the companies don’t know they are advertising on a show like Carlson’s until they hear from people about it.

They have ad placement buyers that do studies of demographics and then they put the ads out to places they think they can hit those demos. And that is all controlled through Applebees ad agency.

Of course they also have shows that are popular that the company big wigs will push to be on…so…

By the way…anyone know if SpaceX is going to launch this morning? I have their site up and nothing is going on yet. It says it will live in two minutes…5 minutes ago.

Nope. Launch was scrubbed due to malfunctioning 1st stage sensors.

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:19:33am

re: #31 teleskiguy

At about 3 p.m. today I started hiking up the ski area using climbing skins on my skis, the second time I’ve done such a thing this winter. I was passed up by five other uphillers in the first quarter of the climb. I wanted to take off my skins and turn around so many times, I even depleted my water bottle about two thirds of the way up. But I got to a point where the vista was just grand (sunset, with alpenglow on high mountains visible to the east) I just kept walking. I made it to the top of Compass Peak, there was nobody up there, and I watched part of the sunset while I removed my skins and caught my breath.

You found your marathon brain and it served you well.

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MsJ  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:19:40am

re: #111 Decatur Deb

By last night Freep had more than 300 comments on the non-wall. Very, very unhappy Freepers, especially on the day of the bumpstock ban. Robinson had to post a warning on etiquette and decorum.

Two words that I would never, ever associate with FR.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:19:43am

re: #92 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s Troy Donahue. Isn’t it?

Troy Donahue after his heroin addiction…

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:19:44am

re: #111 Decatur Deb

By last night Freep had more than 300 comments on the non-wall. Very, very unhappy Freepers, especially on the day of the bumpstock ban. Robinson had to post a warning on etiquette and decorum.

What’s hilarious is they think his promises of getting the funding from “elsewhere” is A) in keeping with his promise not to make American taxpayers pay for it and B) can cut $5B from other agencies without hurting them. Hell, they’re prepared to applaud him for stealing $5B from the DoD’s budget, a budget that we’re told cannot suffer a single $1 worth of cuts lest the entire military collapse.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:20:59am

re: #104 Alephnaught

What I find interesting about McLaren’s record now is the way he linked the old square dance traditions to the (then) modern hip-hop scene. It’s seems to have a been a recurring feature of his career to take an up-and-coming cutting edge culture, and link it to “romantic” trope of the past.

Never would have thought to link those two but I was hearing comparisons with the blues and modern rap. Very interesting. I’ve found more as I get older, I like music more basic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:21:42am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:22:17am
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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:23:11am

re: #101 steve_davis

When I was about 10, in 1975, my brother gave me three albums out of his collection. Changed my musical tastes in a good way forever after:

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Ha! Brownsville Station.

Saw them open for Beck Bogart and Appice here in Columbus. They were pretty entertaining. Cub Koda was a clown, but he could play.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:23:27am

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:23:51am

My favorite Jimi is All Along the Watchtower especially that one guitar solo where the guitar goes “wah-wah.” The opening riff I of course love too.

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:24:09am

re: #104 Alephnaught

What I find interesting about McLaren’s record now is the way he linked the old square dance traditions to the (then) modern hip-hop scene. It’s seems to have a been a recurring feature of his career to take an up-and-coming cutting edge culture, and link it to “romantic” trope of the past.

And one contemporary rapper quoted Mal in one of his biggest hits.

Eminem - Without Me

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:24:41am

We’re again reminded that these fucking morons have no clue how anything works, as they now think that Mexico is somehow paying money saved by US companies due to NAFTA 1.2 directly into the US Treasury.

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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:24:42am

re: #124 Targetpractice

What’s hilarious is they think his promises of getting the funding from “elsewhere” is A) in keeping with his promise not to make American taxpayers pay for it and B) can cut $5B from other agencies without hurting them. Hell, they’re prepared to applaud him for stealing $5B from the DoD’s budget, a budget that we’re told cannot suffer a single $1 worth of cuts lest the entire military collapse.

He can’t reappropriate money from one agency to pay for the wall in another agency.

The power of appropriations is explicitly the power of Congress and he can’t essentially steal money from one agency to give to DHS to pay for the wall.

Of course, that’s precisely what he has done his entire career in real estate as we’re coming to learn. He engaged in widespread malfeasance when it came to moving money around to pay for things.

But that’s not how government works, and Congress needs to step in to remind him.

Then there’s the fact that Congress has to ratify NAFTA 2.0. That’s not a done deal either. Plus, that deal doesn’t pay for the wall. It doesn’t appropriate money. It is a trade deal, nothing more. That means that the US still has to appropriate money for his boondoggle wall - which Congress clearly has no interest in doing.

Trump is a fucknut who is a one-trick pony. Only his bigot brigade base continues to stand by him because they see him as the white nationalist hero they want him to be.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:25:43am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:26:12am

re: #131 makeitstop

And one contemporary rapper quoted Mal in one of his biggest hits.

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Politics not considering, Em is just a better musician and storyteller than Kid Rock is. And he really proved that you can be white and rap and not be tacky like Vanilla Ice.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:26:28am

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:26:44am

re: #134 Dave In Austin

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Not that there’s anything wrong with that lol.

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:28:29am

re: #90 MsJ

Imma gonna do a yabbut… Applebee’s didn’t give a shit until it became widely discussed. So these companies do in fact support racist assholes until it’s inconvenient for them.

And that is the point
When the association starts to hurt their own brand then they act
As it should be

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Dave In Austin  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:30:20am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

No… But just sayin….. I guess this dude was at the courthouse yesterday with the intention of protecting Flynn from Antifa….. There was suppose to be a war and nobody came. Except some dude in leather looking for some action (sans Fido).

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:30:55am

re: #120 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Nope. Launch was scrubbed due to malfunctioning 1st stage sensors.

Bummer. I was looking forward to it.

Didn’t they or one of the other launches set for yesterday have a similar problem?

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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:31:24am

Karma… is a bitch.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:32:09am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

No… But just sayin….. I guess this dude was at the courthouse yesterday with the intention of protecting Flynn from Antifa….. There was suppose to be a war and nobody came. Except some dude in leather looking for some action (sans Fido).

Oh I know. He’s a clown and should be mocked.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:32:21am

House Harkonnen Trump lost it’s Foundation. How long can it stand without one?

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:32:27am

re: #141 lawhawk

Karma… is a bitch.

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Local woman confused about why the leopard she voted for to eat other people’s faces has now turned on her, despite numerous warnings about such.

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:33:40am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Politics not considering, Em is just a better musician and storyteller than Kid Rock is. And he really proved that you can be white and rap and not be tacky like Vanilla Ice.

Em is still one of the greatest ever in my book. Kid Rock dreams about being that good, and he’ll never get it.

There’s a reason Dre brought Eminem up. The novelty of his whiteness was a thing at first, but Em just kept proving over and over that he’s one of the most gifted rappers ever, of any color.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:34:26am

re: #132 Targetpractice

We’re again reminded that these fucking morons have no clue how anything works, as they now think that Mexico is somehow paying money saved by US companies due to NAFTA 1.2 directly into the US Treasury.

“Mexico is paying for The Wall and NAFTA is paying for The Wall but we still need $5 billion to build The Wall.”

/

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:34:35am

re: #141 lawhawk

Karma… is a bitch.

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Oh yeah? Should have considered that when you were chanting Mexico would pay for it or not looking at why a wall would be stupid. FWIW the Post posted an ad with support for the wall. Most of the sheriffs signing were far from the Mexican border as you can be. Some even further than I am.

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:35:02am

re: #144 Targetpractice

Local woman confused about why the leopard she voted for to eat other people’s faces has now turned on her, despite numerous warnings about such.

The snake you invited in turned around and bit you did he?

Dumb ass! You should learn about snakes. You didn’t.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:35:10am

re: #140 ObserverArt

Bummer. I was looking forward to it.

Didn’t they or one of the other launches set for yesterday have a similar problem?

Yep. Unfortunately, Space X was not able to correct the problem overnight.

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steve_davis  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:35:19am

re: #128 ObserverArt

Ha! Brownsville Station.

Saw them open for Beck Bogart and Appice here in Columbus. They were pretty entertaining. Cub Koda was a clown, but he could play.

looking around online, I discovered that Brownsville Station is considered one of those groups, like Three Dog Night, that had a reputation for doing covers better than the original artists, in many cases. Sort of like the Byrds with Dylan.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:36:52am

re: #140 ObserverArt

Bummer. I was looking forward to it.

Didn’t they or one of the other launches set for yesterday have a similar problem?

Old skydiver (pilot) wisdom on weather holds:
“It’s better to be down here wishing you were up there, than to be up there wishing you were down here.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:37:10am

re: #145 makeitstop

Em is still one of the greatest ever in my book. Kid Rock dreams about being that good, and he’ll never get it.

There’s a reason Dre brought Eminem up. The novelty of his whiteness was a thing at first, but Em just kept proving over and over that he’s one of the most gifted rappers ever, of any color.

My one brother does amateur rapping sometimes. He owes a debt to Em because before Em, white guys rapping was either a tacky PR gimmick or really bad like Ice. With Em, a white guy can rap. Dre did a good thing mentoring him. He’s had some problems over the years but I genuinely like Em.

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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:38:10am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah? Should have considered that when you were chanting Mexico would pay for it or not looking at why a wall would be stupid. FWIW the Post posted an ad with support for the wall. Most of the sheriffs signing were far from the Mexican border as you can be. Some even further than I am.

Those who support building a wall the most are those living in states in the heartland - hundreds of miles from any border - Canada or Mexico.

This is the essential whiteness of the border wall need. It’s a white nationalist policy being advanced by a xenophobic white nationalist (who also happens to profit from having undocumented persons on the payroll, because personal profit trumps the rule of law - or ICE).

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:39:05am

re: #95 Targetpractice

Faux & Frauds are pissed:

“How come the TV isn’t on? I want to watch my favorite show.”

Aide: Uh, Mr. President, Fox & Friends….isn’t on today. Yeah.

“How come?”

Aide: Uh, the network is down. Snow on the phone lines and all like that. Would you like to play with your Twitter phone instead?

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:39:30am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

My one brother does amateur rapping sometimes. He owes a debt to Em because before Em, white guys rapping was either a tacky PR gimmick or really bad like Ice. With Em, a white guy can rap. Dre did a good thing mentoring him. He’s had some problems over the years but I genuinely like Em.

And after all the controversy, it turns out that Em is one of the more compassionate and thoughtful rappers out there. His Trump dis still burns.

Eminem Rips Donald Trump In BET Hip Hop Awards Freestyle Cypher

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MsJ  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:40:35am

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:42:18am

re: #7 teleskiguy

Here’s a fun question: what one album changed your musical tastes, and expanded your musical horizons, more than any other? (This isn’t just your favorite — it’s the one you heard when you were a teen that led you out of your original music rut.)

my two cents

the one gateway, the paradigm shift that opened the complex and fantastic musical world for me is/was “At Fillmore East”. Especially Whipping Post.

i have literal milk crates filled with the core of music that awakened me and led to a willingness to hear new things. this to that to him, to her, to…

YouTube

and you all posted a lot of really good stuff here too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:43:50am

re: #7 teleskiguy

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:44:18am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

My one brother does amateur rapping sometimes. He owes a debt to Em because before Em, white guys rapping was either a tacky PR gimmick or really bad like Ice. With Em, a white guy can rap. Dre did a good thing mentoring him. He’s had some problems over the years but I genuinely like Em.

Consider one of the first recorded raps (it wasn’t I don’t think) and done by a White…woman!

Blondie…Rapture.

It is considered the first big rap to be a hit single. Of course, that will always be debated.

Rapture (Remastered)

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Jay C  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:45:16am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

No… But just sayin….. I guess this dude was at the courthouse yesterday with the intention of protecting Flynn from Antifa….. There was suppose to be a war and nobody came. Except some dude in leather looking for some action (sans Fido).

Well, maybe it’s the political equivalent of Magic Elephant Repellent: after all, were there any mobs of violent Antifa around to try to lynch Michael Flynn? No? See, it worked! Cox must have scared them away !

Though Trigger does not look like a happy doggo.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:45:20am

re: #153 lawhawk

Those who support building a wall the most are those living in states in the heartland - hundreds of miles from any border - Canada or Mexico.

This is the essential whiteness of the border wall need. It’s a white nationalist policy being advanced by a xenophobic white nationalist (who also happens to profit from having undocumented persons on the payroll, because personal profit trumps the rule of law - or ICE).

It’s people who live in lily-white towns where the gene pool has a “No Diving” warning sign who’ve been conned into believing that the reason all the decent-paying jobs with solid benefits are not available for their inbred dipshit spawn who must instead choose to either leave their tiny hamlets or take jobs shoveling shit is “illegals” came and took all those jobs. And not because those jobs were automated/outsourced into nonexistence while the jobs that remain don’t pay jack due to decades of kneecapping unions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:46:49am

re: #161 Targetpractice

The Wall has always been first and foremost a symbol of our resolve to preserve the purity of our National identity.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:47:08am

re: #153 lawhawk

Those who support building a wall the most are those living in states in the heartland - hundreds of miles from any border - Canada or Mexico.

This is the essential whiteness of the border wall need. It’s a white nationalist policy being advanced by a xenophobic white nationalist (who also happens to profit from having undocumented persons on the payroll, because personal profit trumps the rule of law - or ICE).

Exactly and that’s the thing about bigoted fear. It’s always misplaced bs.

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William Lewis  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:48:30am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

My one brother does amateur rapping sometimes. He owes a debt to Em because before Em, white guys rapping was either a tacky PR gimmick or really bad like Ice. With Em, a white guy can rap. Dre did a good thing mentoring him. He’s had some problems over the years but I genuinely like Em.

And when everything clicks - “Loose Yourself” - even a non-hiphop white fart like me could be pulled in. He’s got a hell of a talent.

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:50:08am

re: #145 makeitstop

Em is still one of the greatest ever in my book. Kid Rock dreams about being that good, and he’ll never get it.

There’s a reason Dre brought Eminem up. The novelty of his whiteness was a thing at first, but Em just kept proving over and over that he’s one of the most gifted rappers ever, of any color.

Actual talent, like actual cream, rises.

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:51:45am

re: #146 Sir John Barron

“Mexico is paying for The Wall and NAFTA is paying for The Wall but we still need $5 billion to build The Wall.”

/

That’s the old…
I bought it all because It was all on sale. I saved so much
Yes, you actually went broke saving money

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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:52:09am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:52:44am

re: #166 dangerman

That’s the old…
I bought it all because It was all on sale. I saved so much
Yes, you actually went broke saving money

“I couldn’t afford not to buy it!”

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Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:53:01am

Priceless

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:54:03am

So, I see we are doing some albums/tunes that made a big difference in our listening habits and furthered our understand of where music can go,

First video is the song that took me away from the mundane of the day. Sure I liked The Beatles and Stones…but working on a model car in our basement where we had this big old Zenith record player radio combo from the 40s the big ass 15” speakers almost blew up when the first notes hit. And boy did I pay attention to the new big sound that was coming. That first power chord sold me.

The second was when I bought my first big double album and this song was on it. This is the original but it was done live on the double album. This song told me how far music could go.

The Who - I Can See For Miles

Pink Floyd - Astronomy Domine

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:59:08am

re: #170 ObserverArt

So, I see we are doing some albums/tunes that made a big difference in our listening habits and furthered our understand of where music can go,

First video is the song that took me away from the mundane of the day. Sure I liked The Beatles and Stones…but working on a model car in our basement where we had this big old Zenith record player radio combo from the 40s the big ass 15” speakers almost blew up when the first notes hit. And boy did I pay attention to the new big sound that was coming. That first power chord sold me.

The second was when I bought my first big double album and this song was on it. This is the original but it was done live on the double album. This song told me how far music could go.

There’s an electricity to ‘I Can See For Miles’ - even listening to it right now, I still get the same buzz as when I heard it the first time. The tension. Lightning in a bottle, right there.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 6:59:08am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

“But Dems must still pay for Wall to save money or they’ll make me shutdown the government, which I’ll own but isn’t my fault, really the Dems who shut down the government to pay for the Wall that is already paid for by Mexico.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:00:04am

re: #50 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Them boys need to slap a couple of cameras on their rockets.

Here we go:

India Launches Military Communications Satellite

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:03:38am

Anybody heard from Stanley Sea lately? I just realized she hasn’t been around for a while, and I miss her.

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Danack  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:04:43am

South Carolina is also looking at skipping their Republican Presidential primary to allow Trump to stand unopposed.

washingtonexaminer.com

The more I think about it….the more nuts this is. There’s very high chances that Trump won’t even be running for office in two years, either because of incarceration, low polling, or other reason, such as the Republican base turning against him.

To be planning to not even consider another candidate seems to be putting themselves in a risky position where Trump could withdraw in late 2019/early 2020 and then the Republicans would be scrambling to start planning for a primary.

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:07:00am

re: #171 makeitstop

There’s an electricity to ‘I Can See For Miles’ - even listening to it right now, I still get the same buzz as when I heard it the first time. The tension. Lightning in a bottle, right there.

Exactly! That first big wham on the guitar and Moon’s two snare beats and power roll and I was taken. Music had just changed for me. It could be big and menacing.

CKLW out of Detroit/Windsor played it. That was the station I listened too most.

Vicious Babushka probably knows that station well.

Edit. Yeesh! I changed the end of a sentence and the middle made no damn sense without changing it too.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:07:43am

Donnie’s current job title is the reason why he and his family are in such deep shit legally. That same job title is preventing him from being in tossed in jail already. He’s been running a criminal expertise for decades, but until he became “potus” the resources and effort were not available to peel back the layers of the onion. He’s such a stupid mother fucker that he had zero capacity to realize he was getting himself into running for the highest office in the land.

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:09:24am

re: #174 makeitstop

Anybody heard from Stanley Sea lately? I just realized she hasn’t been around for a while, and I miss her.

I was going to ask about her and BeachDem the other day but hesitated. I miss both and many others too. GGT too. So active and then gone.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:10:14am

re: #175 Danack

South Carolina is also looking at skipping their Republican Presidential primary to allow Trump to stand unopposed.

washingtonexaminer.com

The more I think about it….the more nuts this is. There’s very high chances that Trump won’t even be running for office in two years, either because of incarceration, low polling, or other reason, such as the Republican base turning against him.

To be planning to not even consider another candidate seems to be putting themselves in a risky position where Trump could withdraw in late 2019/early 2020 and then the Republicans would be scrambling to start planning for a primary.

I’m remembering the Republican fake crocodile tears at how “awful” Bernie was treated by the Dems.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:10:43am

re: #178 ObserverArt

I was going to ask about her and BeachDem the other day but hesitated. I miss both and many others too. GGT too. So active and then gone.

StanleySea hasn’t been here in awhile too. Errr sorry missed the initial question

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:11:37am

I think I did see BeachDem last week tho.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:12:03am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I’m remembering the Republican fake crocodile tears at how “awful” Bernie was treated by the Dems.

Propaganda that originated with Russia and repeated by Donnie AND Bernie. How telling.

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:12:36am

re: #176 ObserverArt

Exactly! That first big wham on the guitar and Moon’s two snare beats and power roll and I was taken. Music had just changed for me. It could be big and it didn’t have to be menacing.

CKLW out of Detroit/Windsor played it. That was the station I listened too most.

Vicious Babushka probably knows that station well.

I used to be able to get CKLW late at night in Philly! That station was what was referred to as a ‘flamethrower’ back in the day - stations with ginormous transmitters that could cover the entire country when conditions were right. XERF in Mexico was another one - the early home of Wolfman Jack.

ZZ Top wrote a song about that one.

ZZ Top - Heard It On The X

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:14:23am

re: #177 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s current job title is the reason why he and his family are in such deep shit legally. That same job title is preventing him from being in tossed in jail already. He’s been running a criminal expertise for decades, but until he became “potus” the resources and effort were not available to peel back the layers of the onion. He’s such a stupid mother fucker that he had zero capacity to realize he was getting himself into running for the highest office in the land.

And that his life and everything he would do would be opened like a can and all the contents dumped out to study.

He really is a dumbass not to realize all that came with the office.

I guess he forgot how he treated Obama and that would be coming his way only this time it would be millions of critics. He must have thought his tweets to Obama were one to one instead of realizing millions said the same stuff about his birth certificate and grades, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:15:20am

re: #182 Dr. Matt

Propaganda that originated with Russia and repeated by Donnie AND Bernie. How telling.

Yep. So frustrating seeing how people act like the Sanders campaign acted totally ethical in the primaries.

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:18:25am

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gwangung  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:22:37am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Yep. So frustrating seeing how people act like the Sanders campaign acted totally ethical in the primaries.

Yeah, which campaign stole computer files from the other and used them in fundraising appeals?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:24:25am

re: #187 gwangung

Yeah, which campaign stole computer files from the other and used them in fundraising appeals?

Exactly. But instead we get fauxrages about closed primaries and the DNC internally liking a person who actually committed to campaign for all Democratic candidates she could. Bernie’s problem isn’t he’s too far left for the Dems. Bernie’s problem is he’s a jerk.

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plansbandc  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:26:18am

re: #141 lawhawk

The comments are golden.

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Jay C  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:28:32am

re: #177 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s current job title is the reason why he and his family are in such deep shit legally. That same job title is preventing him from being in tossed in jail already. He’s been running a criminal expertise for decades, but until he became “potus” the resources and effort were not available to peel back the layers of the onion. He’s such a stupid mother fucker that he had zero capacity to realize he was getting himself into running for the highest office in the land.

Long-term pattern-of-behavior: Donald Trump has always been the principal source of his own problems. The main difference now is that he has his general dishonesty, incompetence and flim-flam displayed 24/7 on a national stage (the White House), and he can’t deal with his problems via his normal practice: i.e. retreating behind a flak-screen of lawyers to bury critics (or creditors) in paperwork, then quietly settle under-the-radar with NDAs all around.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:28:38am

I’m sure that the GOP will be quick to lambast this decision to “retreat”:

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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:31:25am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:32:57am

re: #191 Targetpractice

I’m sure that the GOP will be quick to lambast this decision to “retreat”:

*Cut-and-run
*Surrender monkey
*Frenchie

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:33:51am

re: #173 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here we go:

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Video

They still need to work on their production values, and ability to stream live.
Silly American wants his entertainment, damn it!

I was wondering about the how the first stage was separated. If the external liquid boosters separated first, then solid main first stage was dropped. Have to say I was surprised to see the whole mass ejected as a single item. Wonder what kind of mess that bit makes when it arrives at the surface.

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:33:55am

re: #157 dangerman

my two cents

the one gateway, the paradigm shift that opened the complex and fantastic musical world for me is/was “At Fillmore East”. Especially Whipping Post.

i have literal milk crates filled with the core of music that awakened me and led to a willingness to hear new things. this to that to him, to her, to…

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Video

and you all posted a lot of really good stuff here too.

oh, and it was 1975

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:35:36am

re: #184 ObserverArt

And that his life and everything he would do would be opened like a can and all the contents dumped out to study.

He really is a dumbass not to realize all that came with the office.

I guess he forgot how he treated Obama and that would be coming his way only this time it would be millions of critics. He must have thought his tweets to Obama were one to one instead of realizing millions said the same stuff about his birth certificate and grades, etc.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:36:24am

About T-minus 1 hour for Arianespace Soyuz Flight VS20 - CSO-1 launch
Looks like their stream goes live in about 8 minutes

Arianespace Flight VS20 – CSO-1 (EN)

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Alephnaught  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:40:32am

OT/Sanity Break:

If you want impressive visuals and eerie music, this is “The Timeless” by Mercury. Now, Mercury aren’t like the other groups we’ve been talking about on this thread- they are a demoscene group, a group of coders and artists making audiovisual extravaganzas within amazing technical constraints.

Case in point: this is the winner of the PC 64k Intro competition at the Revision 2014 Demo Coding Party. 64k in this case being the number of bytes each entry has fit within. What you’re about to see an hear is procedurally generated from a Windows executable 64 kilobytes in size.

the timeless - mercury | Revision 2014 | 64k

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MsJ  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:42:00am

re: #184 ObserverArt

And that his life and everything he would do would be opened like a can and all the contents dumped out to study.

He really is a dumbass not to realize all that came with the office.

I guess he forgot how he treated Obama and that would be coming his way only this time it would be millions of critics. He must have thought his tweets to Obama were one to one instead of realizing millions said the same stuff about his birth certificate and grades, etc.

Trump is dumb as a stone. He watches Fox News and thinks FUCK YEAH! IF THAT N-R OBAMA CAN DO THIS ANYONE CAN…Q SAYS!! THIS JOB IS EASY! LOOK AT WHAT THAT BITCH HILLARY GOT AWAY WITH!! LOCK THEM UP!

That’s the problem with Fox. There are true believers who truly believe the bullshit.

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Jay C  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:42:13am

re: #191 Targetpractice

I’m sure that the GOP will be quick to lambast this decision to “retreat”:

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Maybe not: I’m sure most Republicans - like most Americans in general - have only the vaguest idea that we even have troops in “Syria” - still less their numbers or deployment or mission parameters (which I am sure is exactly how the Pentagon prefers it). As long as there isn’t a newsfeed of flag-draped coffins being offloaded, most people probably don’t (or won’t) know or care.

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:44:14am

re: #198 Alephnaught

OT/Sanity Break:

If you want impressive visuals and eerie music, this is “The Timeless” by Mercury. Now, Mercury aren’t like the other groups we’ve been talking about on this thread- they are a demoscene group, a group of coders and artists making audiovisual extravaganzas within amazing technical constraints.

Case in point: this is the winner of the PC 64k Intro competition at the Revision 2014 Demo Coding Party. 64k in this case being the number of bytes each entry has fit within. What you’re about to see an hear is procedurally generated from a Windows executable 64 kilobytes in size.

[Embedded content]

Video

That’s very cool!

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Alephnaught  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:50:21am

re: #201 makeitstop

That’s very cool!

I know! BTW The Youtube page has a link to a page where you can download the original demo program, and try it for yourself on a Windows machine.

EDIT: I understand when you run the program, there’s a long pause you don’t see in the video where the program pre-calculates stuff, so be aware of that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:53:19am

re: #178 ObserverArt

I was going to ask about her and BeachDem the other day but hesitated. I miss both and many others too. GGT too. So active and then gone.

And Cheechako and eletrotek haven’t been around either.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:56:10am

What a difference 48 hrs make:

They went to bed Monday night figuring they were going to wake up to a Judge Sullivan tearing into the prosecutors and treating Flynn as the “victim” (as has been their fantasies for months), and instead they found him ripping into Flynn and suggesting he be charged with treason.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 7:56:47am

re: #200 Jay C

Maybe not: I’m sure most Republicans - like most Americans in general - have only the vaguest idea that we even have troops in “Syria” - still less their numbers or deployment or mission parameters (which I am sure is exactly how the Pentagon prefers it). As long as there isn’t a newsfeed of flag-draped coffins being offloaded, most people probably don’t (or won’t) know or care.

So, is it that Putin has been suggesting to him that the American troops are a hindrance to his forces and should be withdrawn?

I still don’t understand Bolton — wasn’t he originally an anti-Russian hawk? Or was his animus directed against Muslims only? Or is it specific to Iran?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:01:26am

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

So, is it that Putin has been suggesting to him that the American troops are a hindrance to his forces and should be withdrawn?

I still don’t understand Bolton — wasn’t he originally an anti-Russian hawk? Or was his animus directed against Muslims only? Or is it specific to Iran?

Remember, Bolton is not actively advising, his job, like any other Trump WH job is just to execute orders.. that are most likely coming from Putin by way of Trump.

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gocart mozart  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:02:15am

So David French’s wife was molested by her pastor when she was 12, this guy is blaming the victim

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:05:05am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:08:52am

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

About T-minus 1 hour for Arianespace Soyuz Flight VS20 - CSO-1 launch
Looks like their stream goes live in about 8 minutes

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YouTube channel for the launch

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steve_davis  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:08:55am

whoever turned me on to Patriot, thank you! Funniest show I’ve seen in awhile. The scene where he gets in the fight while wearing the backpack filled with the guy he has duct-taped and walked around Luxembourg with had me laughing out loud.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:09:14am

re: #178 ObserverArt

I was going to ask about her and BeachDem the other day but hesitated. I miss both and many others too. GGT too. So active and then gone.

Stanley and GGT are still on twitter.
BeachDem is probably busy with end of the year work and post-hurricane stuff. I’ll send her an email.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:10:18am

Two more Republican Kansas state lawmakers say they’re quitting GOP and becoming Dems thehill.com

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:11:17am

re: #212 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Two more Republican Kansas state lawmakers say they’re quitting GOP and becoming Dems thehill.com

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Rats are fleeing the sinking ship.

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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:12:26am

re: #207 gocart mozart

A child under the age of 18 does not have the capacity to give consent. That’s the purpose of statutory rape laws. It’s an understanding in society that a person under a certain age (16-18 generally) lacks the requisite knowledge, capacity, understanding, to agree to do various things - like enter contracts, engage in various societal obligations, and to consent to sexual conduct.

Statutory rape is an explicit treatment of this.

So no, a child at the age of 12 cannot be expected to say yes or no. The sexual act with a minor is illegal - consent is irrelevant under the law.

These people are insane.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:12:49am
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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:14:04am

re: #215 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, we’re breaking off diplomatic relations and eliminating our entire presence in Syria - diplomatic or otherwise?

This is breathtaking in its stupidity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:15:14am

re: #216 lawhawk

So, we’re breaking off diplomatic relations and eliminating our entire presence in Syria - diplomatic or otherwise?

This is breathtaking in its stupidity.

It will be praised for putting American interests first.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:15:42am
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lawhawk  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:17:27am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It will be praised for putting American interests first.

Praised by the MAGIdiots, despite their complete and utter lack of showing how it puts our interests first.

When Russia fills the vacuum, and continues to destabilize the region, causing oil price spikes, decreased trade, enables Syria, Iran, and their proxies to attack our strategic ally/partner Israel, how does that benefit the US?

How does eliminating our diplomatic presence improve our interests?

aw fuckit. These people are beyond clueless.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:19:10am

Really live now
In English and French

Arianespace Flight VS20 – CSO-1 (EN)

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:20:29am
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gocart mozart  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:21:05am
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gocart mozart  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:22:40am

A got a round of applause from Kathy Griffin

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sagehen  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:22:55am

re: #187 gwangung

Yeah, which campaign stole computer files from the other and used them in fundraising appeals?

Question: the Russians had a lot of very specific info with which to micro-target black voters in Wisconsin and Michigan to dissuade them from voting. What are the chances they got that info from the Sanders people? ‘Cause that seems like a demographic the Dems would have more detail about than the Reps would….

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gocart mozart  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:27:01am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:28:05am

re: #76 Mike Lamb

Yes…I remember when our military was decimated due to lack of funding.

//

Maybe Mexico will pay for that too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:28:57am

Trump could just hire Mexican contractors to build the Wall and then stiff them…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:30:24am

re: #207 gocart mozart

So David French’s wife was molested by her pastor when she was 12, this guy is blaming the victim

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Can’t stsnd the Frenches but wtf is wrong with this asshole. She was 12. He was an adult. End of fucking story.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:31:49am

re: #225 gocart mozart

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A plan so “comprehensive” that it had large sections labeled “And Then Magic Happens.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:32:17am

re: #224 sagehen

Question: the Russians had a lot of very specific info with which to micro-target black voters in Wisconsin and Michigan to dissuade them from voting. What are the chances they got that info from the Sanders people? ‘Cause that seems like a demographic the Dems would have more detail about than the Reps would….

The GOP in Wisconsin had enough information about black voters to deliberately disenfranchise them — the main factor that led to Hillary losing the state. The GOP certainly can provide the information about who are African-Americans to Russians and the Russians can target these voters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:32:50am

re: #225 gocart mozart

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Nah you were being told you were smart by the Heritage Foundation at a five thousand a plate dinner. No one buys you as a working class hero Paul. Your Dad would be ashamed of the man you’ve become.

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lizardofid  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:35:21am

re: #224 sagehen

Question: the Russians had a lot of very specific info with which to micro-target black voters in Wisconsin and Michigan to dissuade them from voting. What are the chances they got that info from the Sanders people? ‘Cause that seems like a demographic the Dems would have more detail about than the Reps would….

You may be right, but I believe Brad Parscale’s fingerprints are on it somewhere.

Oh, good morning!

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:36:34am
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calochortus  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:36:51am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Can’t stsnd the Frenches but wtf is wrong with this asshole. She was 12. He was an adult. End of fucking story.

Absolutely correct, but this plays into the “she really wanted it” fantasy, with the “what did it hurt?” corollary. Also, if you don’t think women ever become full adults like men, the difference between a 12 year old and an 18 year old’s mental capacity wouldn’t be that great.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:37:01am

re: #213 Targetpractice

Rats are fleeing the sinking ship.

Women legislators who realized that the standard GOP handling of taxes damaged Kansas and decided to switch to the party that did not believe in supply-side economics.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:37:05am

T-minus 1 minute

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:37:52am

re: #230 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP in Wisconsin had enough information about black voters to deliberately disenfranchise them — the main factor that led to Hillary losing the state. The GOP certainly can provide the information about who are African-Americans to Russians and the Russians can target these voters.

That was the tactic that worked for them: count on a rabid 30% base to get out and vote and then suppress the rest of the vote so that another 20% guarantees you an electoral majority.

And don’t forget, apathy is the best form of voter suppression and after all, both candidates are the same, right?

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:38:48am

Lift off

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:40:10am

re: #234 calochortus

Absolutely correct, but this plays into the “she really wanted it” fantasy, with the “what did it hurt?” corollary. Also, if you don’t think women ever become full adults like men, the difference between a 12 year old and an 18 year old’s mental capacity wouldn’t be that great.

I was a seventh grader at 12. A newly graduated from high school at 18. There’s a difference. JFC these people are sick and yes David French they’re conservatives not liberals.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:40:54am

Booster seperation

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:44:36am

re: #81 MsJ

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It has been to me for about a year now. My last post to facebook was “Fuck Facebook”, and pfft I was gone

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calochortus  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:45:25am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

I was a seventh grader at 12. A newly graduated from high school at 18. There’s a difference. JFC these people are sick and yes David French they’re conservatives not liberals.

Of course, but see, you’re a guy and they’re totally, totally different. Not.
Some men have a hard time admitting that women are adults and should have agency. Once you’ve decided that women are more like children, then girls are often perceived as more adult than they are. Not in making their own life choices, of course, but in regard to what others want from them.

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:45:48am

re: #212 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Two more Republican Kansas state lawmakers say they’re quitting GOP and becoming Dems thehill.com

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both women

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gocart mozart  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:46:00am

Being against child rape makes one a “snowflake”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:46:21am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was the tactic that worked for them: count on a rabid 30% base to get out and vote and then suppress the rest of the vote so that another 20% guarantees you an electoral majority.

And don’t forget, apathy is the best form of voter suppression and after all, both candidates are the same, right?

And that was certainly the message of the MSM. All they could focus on with her emails and then Comey dealt the fatal blow. The NY Times made no real effort to reveal the truth about Trump when he was running against Clinton.

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plansbandc  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:47:23am

I was always into pop music of any era. Then I discovered my brother’s album collection. Stones Zeppelin Who, etc. But then, when I was in HS, there was a little show on public TV called FM TV. (Precursor to MTV)

This was the first time I discovered music without family influence. And this is one of the bands and songs that blew me away.

Ultravox - The Thin Wall (Official Music Video)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:48:26am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:48:50am

I’m glad he doesn’t know when or how to shut up…..

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:49:57am

re: #244 gocart mozart

Being against child rape makes one a “snowflake”

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These Trumpsters are vile beyond words but we already knew that. After all, they supported Roy Moore.

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calochortus  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:50:20am

re: #242 calochortus

I believe this line of “logic” has been extended to people of color as well. Girls from tropical climes were thought to mature earlier and be ready for sexual exploitation at a young age. Young Black men are tried as adults in their teens because they’re mature, hardened criminals. Etc.

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Alephnaught  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:51:27am

re: #244 gocart mozart

Being against child rape makes one a “snowflake”

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Of course, all their defenses are remarkably similar to the defences a rapist would make. I wonder who would be the snowflake if someone were to point that out to them?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:53:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:53:40am

re: #244 gocart mozart

She knew what she was doing. Sorry, snowflake.

She was twelve.

Her assailant knew what he was doing.

Jeez…

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 8:58:53am

re: #244 gocart mozart

Being against child rape makes one a “snowflake”

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These rape apologists could use a punch in the throat.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:01:12am

How is Mattis supporting this withdrawal from Syria? Is he endorsing this action or is he the next to go?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:01:35am

re: #254 makeitstop

These rape apologists could use a punch in the throat.

How hateful and intolerant for assaulting a person based on their sexual identity.

/

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:01:52am

re: #225 gocart mozart

It was 2007. House Republicans had just lost the majority, and I was sitting in a deer hunting tree stand one Saturday morning. That’s when I decided to go big and put together a completely comprehensive plan to update the nation’s entitlement system and reform the tax code.
I was afraid of the deer, the beasts. Who wouldn’t be? But unlike most unmanly men, I was ready for them. After they had stormed my house, threatened me with destruction, and insulted me, I rescued the last gun I had before the liberals took them all, and went to my safe space from which to better launch my missiles.
— Paul Ryan

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:03:02am

re: #225 gocart mozart

I think this tweet is going to age badly. I sense a ratio problem in his future.

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Jay C  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:03:12am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So: I wonder what the Senate vote on that funding CR is going to be?
I’m guessing it will be something like N - 1; where the “1” will be Rand Paul (just because), and “N” will be everybody else….

re: #247 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This sudden change in Syria policy really makes no sense: OK, if Trump wants to remove US forces from the country - for whatever reason, why make a huge precipitous announcement (complete with evacuating DoS folks)? Versus a quiet, under-the-radar drawdown with little publicity?
AFAICT, the only beneficiaries of an immediate withdrawal (which, of course, would be loudly and repeatedly slammed as a “bugout” if a (D) President ordered it) are, in no particular order, ISIS and the Russians. Which, re the latter, seems like the main “rationale”.

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makeitstop  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:03:23am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How hateful and intolerant for assaulting a person based on their sexual identity.

/

Yeah, so much for the Tolerant Left, eh?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:03:45am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Buzz Burbank
@MichaelJElston
Leader Mitch McConnell says Senate will pass stop-gap government funding bill that does not include the $5B Trump wanted for his wall. Government employees will not get furloughed or go unpaid, at least until February 8th.

I assume that Trump will sign this legislation; otherwise, isn’t he stuck in Washington for the holidays?

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Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:06:29am

Donnie was going to defeat ISIS in 90 days!

…And Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

…And Donnie was going to lock her up.

Sadly, Magatards still believe all of this will happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:13:49am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

Donnie was going to defeat ISIS in 90 days!

…And Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

…And Donnie was going to lock her up.

Sadly, Magatards still believe all of this will happen.

It has happened, the Deep State and Lügenpresse are just silent about it

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:15:39am

re: #244 gocart mozart

Being against child rape makes one a “snowflake”

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She was 12. The funny thing is these are the same guys who vow to murder anyone who touches their daughters too.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:16:31am

re: #254 makeitstop

These rape apologists could use a punch in the throat.

A nice cut to the balls wouldn’t hurt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:16:37am

re: #264 HappyWarrior

She was 12. The funny thing is these are the same guys who vow to murder anyone who touches their daughters too.

because they have obviously not “consented”…

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calochortus  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:18:24am

re: #264 HappyWarrior

She was 12. The funny thing is these are the same guys who vow to murder anyone who touches their daughters too.

Because those daughters are property and fair game if you can get one. They have to be protected by a gun toting white guy.

Personally, I’d like to see a cultural shift to “real men have relationships with consenting adult women, and only the weak would choose a child.” I don’t suppose it will happen.

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uriel  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:19:00am

re: #264 HappyWarrior

She was 12. The funny thing is these are the same guys who vow to murder anyone who touches their daughters too.

Assuming these are MRA’s, you’d be surprised at how many of them hate their own daughters as much as anyone else. Even more, sometimes.

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calochortus  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:20:10am

re: #268 uriel

Sad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:20:37am

re: #267 calochortus

Because those daughters are property and fair game if you can get one. They have to be protected by a gun toting white guy.

Personally, I’d like to see a cultural shift to “real men have relationships with consenting adult women, and only the weak would choose a child.” I don’t suppose it will happen.

not as long as they see women as property and see sex as a means of asserting dominance

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:24:33am

he’s scared

can’t even say the AG’s name, or of her predecessor (also a woman).
funny that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:27:34am

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:31:15am

O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:36:42am

BeachDem says she’s been busy with a variety of things, but has been reading here.

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ckkatz  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:40:54am

re: #34 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I applied for a new passport at the embassy in Beijing on Dec. 7. The new one arrived today! I’m amazed. Anyway, I will nip into Beijing tomorrow to pick it up. There’s no waiting. I just show my passport and the payment receipt for the new one, and they wave me in.

What awaits me is more complex. I have to have my working papers and residence permit amended to reflect the new passport number and expiry. Not looking forward to that, because it takes two or three trips to various government offices to make it happen. And they could decide at any point to not renew anything, and I’d need to leave China — again — in a jiffy.

So, cross your fingers and all that.

Interestingly, Consumer Reports recommended that anybody who might be concerned that their personal data is compromised should apply for a new passport. Because that invalidates the old passport number and creates a new one.

I do not know how much the PRC uses data it collects, but this might be a good thing for you. At least in the short term.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:43:46am

Whooooops

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:43:48am

re: #258 Sir John Barron

I think this tweet is going to age badly. I sense a ratio problem in his future.

Yep. It is definitely being ratioed in a glorious fashion!!

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sagehen  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:47:17am

re: #259 Jay C

AFAICT, the only beneficiaries of an immediate withdrawal (which, of course, would be loudly and repeatedly slammed as a “bugout” if a (D) President ordered it) are, in no particular order, ISIS and the Russians. Which, re the latter, seems like the main “rationale”.

It also benefits Turkey.

Our troops have been partnering with the Kurds, and have created a secure, peaceful mini-district that the Turks don’t like the looks of. But as long as US troops are there, Turkey can’t attack them. (they’re afraid if it’s allowed to remain and flourish and continue working with the US, it might be a precursor to an attempt at creating a Kurdish state).

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retired cynic  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:48:06am

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

Can’t say just one, but when I got to UofI college of music, my first music ethno-musicology, and I started hearing medieval music: those harmonies just made my hair stand up and march!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:50:38am

re: #278 sagehen

It also benefits Turkey.

Our troops have been partnering with the Kurds, and have created a secure, peaceful mini-district that the Turks don’t like the looks of. But as long as US troops are there, Turkey can’t attack them. (they’re afraid if it’s allowed to remain and flourish and continue working with the US, it might be a precursor to an attempt at creating a Kurdish state).

So once again we made promises to the Kurds and then abandon them?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:55:54am

re: #276 Dr. Matt

We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.

— Donald J. Trump

I’m glad not everything is about him.

/

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jaunte  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:56:06am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s scared

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can’t even say the AG’s name, or of her predecessor (also a woman).
funny that.

I’m totally here for the Get Trump Agenda.

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jaunte  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:57:30am

Steel Slats For Trump!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:57:52am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s scared

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can’t even say the AG’s name, or of her predecessor (also a woman).
funny that.

You don’t really think he remembers their names, do you?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:58:15am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

….In any event, it goes on and on & the new AG, who is now being replaced by yet another AG (who openly campaigned on a GET TRUMP agenda), does little else but rant, rave & politic against me. Will never be treated fairly by these people - a total double standard of “justice.”

— Donald J. Trump

The projections are going so far the Space Force won’t be able to reach them.

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Dizzy  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:58:51am

Marching orders from Vlad via Erdogan.

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jaunte  Dec 19, 2018 • 9:59:32am
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Dizzy  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:00:42am

re: #286 Dizzy

Marching orders from Vlad via Erdogan.

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This will hurt the Kurds especially hard, but add even more instability into a region that has little. Lebanon, Israel, Jordan all within the scope of this.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:01:54am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

Yeah those suicidal, maniacal mass shooters do careful research about which schools have conceal and carry.

/

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Sir John Barron  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:03:04am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

Donnie was going to defeat ISIS in 90 days!

…And Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

…And Donnie was going to lock her up.

Sadly, Magatards still believe all of this will happen.

The Deep State will all be Locked Up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:10:54am

re: #288 Dizzy

This will hurt the Kurds especially hard, but add even more instability into a region that has little. Lebanon, Israel, Jordan all within the scope of this.

Maybe Mattis is concerned about leaving for fear of what traitor might replace him. It is tiring to think of those MAGAts like my brother who mistake physical size for supremacy, who think that someone who is small in statue cannot dominate a larger person. Trump in every way (except weight and height) is the smallest, most fearful, most petty “leader” the electoral college has ever selected. He is a weak, little man.

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ObserverArt  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:13:55am
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sagehen  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:14:04am

re: #280 Hecuba’s daughter

So once again we made promises to the Kurds and then abandon them?

I’m not sure we actually made any promises this time; but yeah, we’re abandoning them. Even though they’ve done everything to prove they deserve our support.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:14:17am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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You’re an idiot Massie who doesn’t know shut about school shooters or guns for that msttrt. You just do whatever the NRA tells you like a good little tool.

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jaunte  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:24:03am
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jaunte  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:25:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:25:40am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:26:21am
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jaunte  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:26:27am

If it wasn’t clear before, Trump is both treasonous, and a petty grifter.

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retired cynic  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:27:09am

re: #299 jaunte

If it wasn’t clear before, Trump is both treasonous, and a petty grifter.

And Big Grafter, per above definitions.

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jaunte  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:28:30am

re: #300 retired cynic

Thinking of him having the Trump Foundation pay the $7 fee for one of his sons scout troops.

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retired cynic  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:29:21am

re: #301 jaunte

Thinking of him having the Trump Foundation pay the $7 fee for one of his sons scout troops.

Yep. The definition of petty.

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ckkatz  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:30:36am

re: #215 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This move can be the precursor many things. Certainly, it screws over a lot of people who trusted us.

Among the moves it fits into, it would be a first step towards declaring war on Iran. Evacuating Iraq and Afghanistan would also fit in that pattern.

I wonder how Turkey plays in the Syria scenario. They also have a presence in Syria.

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nines09  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:37:00am

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jaunte  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:38:11am

Holiday gifts all around. Here’s one for you, Sheldon Adelson!

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dangerman  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:38:11am

re: #291 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe Mattis is concerned about leaving for fear of what traitor might replace him. It is tiring to think of those MAGAts like my brother who mistake physical size for supremacy, who think that someone who is small in statue cannot dominate a larger person. Trump in every way (except weight and height) is the smallest, most fearful, most petty “leader” the electoral college has ever selected. He is a weak, little man.

i get this
and i’ve considered it
i’ve also posted articles here that basically say:

- no.
- if you are in a position of power and
- you are not loudly and clearly calling out to the entire world every damn thing the admin is doing
- then you are helping to hide it
- you are not the adult in the room
- you arent protecting us from anything
- you are covering for the evil and you are allowing it to continue

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:42:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:44:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:46:41am
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ckkatz  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:48:59am

re: #303 ckkatz
Looks like there has already been some discussion of Turkey’s role in Syria. Kind of hard sometimes to finish a thread before posting.

I was basically wondering whether Turkey is onboard with us attacking Iran. I remember that they did not support Bush the Younger’s Iraq war.

Certainly damaging Iran would benefit Erdogan’s power play to become the regional power. It would also remove us a balance power force there and would benefit the Russians re-entrance to the region.

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lizardofid  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:50:53am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“I have no idea what the president is talking about.”

That makes two of you @SoccerMouaz!

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:50:57am

re: #204 Targetpractice

What a difference 48 hrs make:

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They went to bed Monday night figuring they were going to wake up to a Judge Sullivan tearing into the prosecutors and treating Flynn as the “victim” (as has been their fantasies for months), and instead they found him ripping into Flynn and suggesting he be charged with treason.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:53:37am

re: #312 Eventual Carrion

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

So yeah it’s not treason in that sense but it’s definitely ugly and it’s what Flynn will be remembered for rightly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 19, 2018 • 10:53:51am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Dec 19, 2018 • 11:03:17am

Just got off the phone with my dad, the retired Brigadier General, who was so mad I made him go take an aspirin after reading the transcript of what Gen. Flynn did.

Wondering if I should advise the old man to take a toke

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Belafon  Dec 19, 2018 • 11:35:04am

re: #244 gocart mozart

Being against child rape makes one a “snowflake”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 19, 2018 • 2:18:53pm

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