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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:09:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:18:41pm
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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:20:51pm

Is it wrong that I really want to see Trump veto the CR and have Congress override his veto?

Because, really, at this point, that’s all I want for Christmas

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:21:40pm

Somebody take the keys away from Grandpa

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:22:30pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:25:39pm

A shutdown such as this really affects my regional government organization. Part of our work is to ensure that HUD payments are made to landlords. HUD also is instrumental in processing our CDBG grant pay requests. In other words, a shutdown of any length will be harming real estate investors and contractors. Of course, Trump’s entire history has been to stiff people out of their money.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:26:26pm

The lady in that video said if you need her, she’ll be in a hole in the ground.

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:27:20pm

re: #7 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

The lady in that video said if you need her, she’ll be in a hole in the ground.

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:28:45pm

We are shutting down the government and taking paychecks away from parents right before Christmas so folks like this can get a woody:

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:29:27pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Democrats should call him first in January.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:31:48pm

Was having a discussion about Syria and how Trump will do whatever Putin tells him to. I coined the name SugarVladdy (a present-day take on sugardaddy).

“When SugarVladdy speaks, Trump obeys.”

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:32:12pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

Democrats should call him first in January.

At this point, I feel like every House committee should have a subpoena ready for the first day.

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dirkdigglerjr  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:33:27pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

talkingpointsmemo.com

i love lamp

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:33:52pm

re: #11 GlutenFreeJesus

Was having a discussion about Syria and how Trump will do whatever Putin tells him to. I coined the name SugarVladdy (a present-day take on sugardaddy).

“When SugarVladdy speaks, Trump obeys.”

Pure genius!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:36:28pm

re: #11 GlutenFreeJesus

Was having a discussion about Syria and how Trump will do whatever Putin tells him to. I coined the name SugarVladdy (a present-day take on sugardaddy).

“When SugarVladdy speaks, Trump obeys.”

Well played.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:36:59pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:39:53pm

re: #3 KGxvi

Is it wrong that I really want to see Trump veto the CR and have Congress override his veto?

Because, really, at this point, that’s all I want for Christmas

This. I’m starting think some Republicans are beginning to seriously sour on Trump. We’ll see if any of them have the guts to tell Trump to go fuck himself and vote in favor of an override.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:41:12pm

Just going on record again saying how much I fucking hate Donald Trump and his asshole GOP enablers.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:41:18pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

This. I’m starting think some Republicans are beginning to seriously sour on Trump. We’ll see if any of them have the guts to tell Trump to go fuck himself and vote in favor of an override.

I mean, there’s probably at least 40 in the House, right? And maybe a couple more in the Senate?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:42:50pm
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Jay C  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:43:24pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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I hate to rag on anybody’s language skills, but is Melania composing these taglines?

“We Need Wall”
“Because We Need Be Best!”

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wrenchwench  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:44:42pm
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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:44:44pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

It’s bad when your identity politics label is white nationalist.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:45:35pm

re: #12 KGxvi

At this point, I feel like every House committee should have a subpoena ready for the first day.

I’m sure they have multiple subpoenas ready to go on Day One.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:46:06pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:46:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:46:39pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

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Yeah this isn’t a bad thing at all.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:47:04pm

Interesting. That GoFundMe page for Wall? Lots and lots of bots donating, apparently.

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:47:07pm

I go to bed after work, wake up hours later to find things have gone to shit…again.

Can’t I leave you people alone for five minutes?!

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:49:41pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Interesting. That GoFundMe page for Wall? Lots and lots of bots donating, apparently.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:51:01pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

I have some thoughts:

1. comparing too much across the decades can be tricky because of how Latinos are or were categorized - since it’s an ethnicity not a race. So what it means that it was 87% white and is now 59% white depends on definitions used.

2. When one major party chooses to define itself by its racial identity - as the GOP is doing with whiteness - it makes sense that the other major party is going to look much more diverse. Strength in numbers, and all that.

3. Do these numbers include only people registered as Democrats? Or those who self-identify as such? What about independents who lean toward the Democrats? With more people choosing to not register with a party, that makes the numbers more, not less, useful without context.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:51:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:51:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:52:28pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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those employees include TSA, Border Patrol, ICE, law enforcement…

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:52:29pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

I go to bed after work, wake up hours later to find things have gone to shit…again.

Can’t I leave you people alone for five minutes?!

///

Three minutes, that’s about the max we can be left unsupervised.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:52:52pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

those employees include TSA, Border Patrol, ICE, law enforcement…

And the Secret Service. They now don’t get paid to take a bullet for Trump.

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:53:50pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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GOP message to voters:

You Fucked Up. You Trusted Us.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:54:48pm

re: #37 KGxvi

And the Secret Service. They now don’t get paid to take a bullet for Trump.

They still get to take the bullet, they just don’t get paid for it

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:55:44pm

As an actual farmer, I cordially invite Mr. Trump to fuck himself with that pitchfork.

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dirkdigglerjr  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:55:56pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

My congressman* - always there to empathize for the people who won’t get paid at Christmas. If this district weren’t so gerrymandered in order to eliminate the Asheville vote, we could get rid of him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:56:15pm

re: #16 Dave In Austin

Exactly my thought.

Everyone wants…
WALL!
You’re gonna love it!
WALL!
Come and get your
WALL!
Everyone needs
WALL!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:56:47pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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F him. G him HIJLKMNOP his arrogant ass!

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:57:50pm

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They still get to take the bullet, they just don’t get paid for it

That’s what I meant, but probably wasn’t very clear.

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:58:01pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

those employees include TSA, Border Patrol, ICE, law enforcement…

The dark part of me feels like if there’s a shutdown tomorrow, there should be walk-outs at midnight. If you’re working and your pay depends on this CR passing, at 12:01, put down your tools, clock out, and go home. Because too many people need visual aids to see the cost of stupidity like this, so not being able to catch that red-eye flight because the TSA checkpoint is shut down would do the job wonderfully.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2018 • 1:59:28pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Can’t do that. Federal employees can’t strike.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:00:35pm
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piratedan  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:00:44pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

i actually have quite a bit of these in the yard at my place…. they are bleeping adorable (as long as you don’t fall into them) when they bloom, you get some delicate purple/pink flowers (at least with the ones by me)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:01:32pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:03:04pm

also, Andy Richter liked my tweet about the intolerant left.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:03:28pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was owned by the National Park Service at the time:

At the time of her death in 1973, Post bequeathed the property to the National Park Service, hoping it could be used for state visits or as a Winter White House, but because the costs of maintaining the property exceeded the funds provided by Post, and it was difficult to secure the facility (as it is located in the flight path of Palm Beach Airport), the property was returned to the Post Foundation by an Act of Congress in 1981

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:03:46pm

re: #46 Joe Bacon 🌹

Can’t do that. Federal employees can’t strike.

800K federal employees being fired en mass would be only the capper on all this. I could easily imagine Donny having a very difficult shit as he screamed that he’d fire anybody who dared to oppose him by walking out over this shutdown.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:08:13pm

moron needs better threats

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:09:39pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

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Well, that’s a stupid argument. If your coalition is an overwhelming majority of the minorities plus a solid minority of the majority, you still end up with a majority.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:09:42pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:11:06pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:12:35pm

Bernie supporters remain toxic af.

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:13:15pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron needs better threats

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“Before politics”? The DNC offered you $1.3B for border security, you rejected it because you demanded $5B for a fucking monument to your ego. Now you’re prepared to sentence 800K federal employees to furlough or working without pay because you believe holding them hostage will get you that money. The only way to argue that this isn’t political is because the GOP didn’t even see this temper tantrum coming!

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wrenchwench  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:14:10pm

re: #48 piratedan

i actually have quite a bit of these in the yard at my place…. they are bleeping adorable (as long as you don’t fall into them) when they bloom, you get some delicate purple/pink flowers (at least with the ones by me)

We have lots of hedgehog cacti around here, (with lovely flowers, the brightest possible pink, going to purple) but none of them are for bonking. No sir.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:14:19pm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:14:44pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

“Before politics”? The DNC offered you $1.3B for border security, you rejected it because you demanded $5B for a fucking monument to your ego. Now you’re prepared to sentence 800K federal employees to furlough or working without pay because you believe holding them hostage will get you that money. The only way to argue that this isn’t political is because the GOP didn’t even see this temper tantrum coming!

This is the same quandary that the Tories face over Brexit: they have to support this madness or risk losing face.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:14:55pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is moments like this when I have two contradictory, yet equally valid, ideas about government:

1. strange women laying in ponds distributing swords doesn’t seem like such a terrible basis for government

2. we might actually be better off if choosing legislators was done as some sort of lottery basis, like jury duty

Though, I think I’m a bit more partial to idea 1 today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:14:55pm
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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:19:03pm

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is the same quandary that the Tories face over Brexit: they have to support this madness or risk losing face.

goo.gl

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:19:05pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No one wants the stupid wall. Maybe we should build a wall around GOP hq to keep your trashy party away from our citizens.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:20:32pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:21:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:23:05pm

Dory went in for her ‘Lady Parts Operation’ yesterday. They sent her home with an Elizabethan collar almost as big as she is, so I went out last night and got a donut collar instead.

She was still a bit woozy when I took this, but her face seems to be saying, “Why you do this to me, Daddy?”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:23:14pm

re: #67 Patricia Kayden

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Never knew that about Bernie. I’m suspicious as Bernie given Davine.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:23:39pm

I won’t post any Trump tweets, but the orange blob just tweeted that Mattis is leaving in February.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:23:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:24:30pm

re: #70 Ace Rothstein

I won’t post any Trump tweets, but the orange blob just tweeted that Mattis is leaving in February.

Any bets on whether he told Mattis first?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:24:33pm

re: #70 Ace Rothstein

I won’t post any Trump tweets, but the orange blob just tweeted that Mattis is leaving in February.

Bingo! Wonder who replaces him,

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:24:56pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Any bets on whether he told Mattis first?

Mattis probably saw the same tweet Ace did.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:25:23pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Dude.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:25:25pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:25:40pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Any bets on whether he told Mattis first?

Not a chance.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:25:46pm

re: #70 Ace Rothstein

I won’t post any Trump tweets, but the orange blob just tweeted that Mattis is leaving in February.

“During Jim’s tenure, tremendous progress has been made, especially with respect to the purchase of new fighting equipment. General Mattis was a great help to me in getting allies and other countries to pay their share of military obligations.”

Might as well have just tweeted, “I still have no idea what I’m supposed to do in this job, nor do I know what anyone else is supposed to be doing”

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:26:02pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

General Robert E. Lee.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:26:53pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Bingo! Wonder who replaces him,

Lou Dobbs?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:27:25pm

My holiday message for President Trump:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:27:40pm

re: #71 GlutenFreeJesus

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Aww I love the Sandlot. For me though, I guess The Matrix. It’s got nothing to do with how the bro types won’t shut up about blue and red pills. The plot didn’t do it for me.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:27:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:28:23pm

re: #76 Patricia Kayden

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Fuck off Hans. This was real fraud not the fake fraud your sorry ass has pushed for years.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:28:36pm

re: #79 Ace Rothstein

General Robert E. Lee.

That reminds me, I saw this the other day and now, very much want one:

Because we won and you lost
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:29:07pm

re: #80 Skip Intro

Lou Dobbs?

Nah he usually promotes from within but not bad.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:29:07pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Bingo! Wonder who replaces him,

With the Dem controlled House Trump will have a hard time getting another waiver for a recently retired general.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:29:08pm

WHEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:29:37pm

re: #79 Ace Rothstein

General Robert E. Lee.

Nah Nathan Bedford Forrest.

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wrenchwench  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:30:05pm

Andy Cripe, Mid-Valley Media

Oregon.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:30:14pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Nah Nathan Bedford Forrest.

He’s done some great work and is being recognized more and more….

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:31:23pm

re: #85 KGxvi

That reminds me, I saw this the other day and now, very much want one:

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I’ll take a General Thomas. Or on a personal level since I have his brigade emblem tattooed on my arm, General Meagher.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:32:10pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

So he just stopped there? Fighting what? Games? Clothes? Netflix series?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:32:15pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s done some great work and is being recognized more and more….

He did really well at Fort Pillow.//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:32:43pm

Good lord, the Trump Admin has a higher turnover than a call center.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:33:15pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Nah he usually promotes from within but not bad.

I don’t know, you can hardly go wrong guessing someone from Fox.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:33:23pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Good lord, the Trump Admin has a higher turnover than a call center.

Taking bets on who is next. My bet: Mnuchin or Ross.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:33:24pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

With the Dem controlled House Trump will have a hard time getting another waiver for a recently retired general.

Maybe, maybe not. The waiver passed fairly easily last time. 81-17 in the Senate, 268-151 in the House - and it was likely only that close because Trump wouldn’t let Mattis appear before the House Armed Services Committee for some reason. I suspect though, they would have to appear before the House Committee this time.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:33:33pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

But Meadows will still get his pay so it’s all good.

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sagehen  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:33:40pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

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Assuming her stats are correct, that 70% of voting-age Americans are white…

The party that pulls 40% of the white vote (28% of total vote)
and 90% of the not-white vote (27% of the total vote)…

That’s 55% of the total vote. Landslide territory, almost.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:34:15pm

re: #96 Skip Intro

I don’t know, you can hardly go wrong guessing someone from Fox.

True, true & seeing who the Anbassador to the UN nominee is, I’m surprised Lumpy didn’t get AG.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:34:50pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

I’ll take a General Thomas. Or on a personal level since I have his brigade emblem tattooed on my arm, General Meagher.

A General Sherman… with a flame paint job?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:34:56pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Good lord, the Trump Admin has a higher turnover than a call center.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:34:58pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Taking bets on who is next. My bet: Mnuchin or Ross.

It’s gotta be some kind of record. Has any other President lost this many staff in two years?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:35:18pm

re: #102 KGxvi

A General Sherman… with a flame paint job?

I snorked.

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:35:27pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

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Imagine that, all the “adults” are getting fired after the midterms.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:35:52pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

What is that?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:36:21pm

re: #98 KGxvi

Maybe, maybe not. The waiver passed fairly easily last time. 81-17 in the Senate, 268-151 in the House - and it was likely only that close because Trump wouldn’t let Mattis appear before the House Armed Services Committee for some reason. I suspect though, they would have to appear before the House Committee this time.

Mattis was highly regarded though. If it’s someone like him sure, but if it’s a nutso like Boykin who i know doesn’t need the waiver, less so. Don’t know who Mattis’ deputy is and the undersecretaries are.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:36:35pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s gotta be some kind of record. Has any other President lost this many staff in two years?

Feels that way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:36:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:37:17pm

re: #102 KGxvi

A General Sherman… with a flame paint job?

Hell yeah.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:37:18pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:37:29pm

re: #102 KGxvi

General Mills? Trump’s heard a lot of good things about him.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:38:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:38:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:39:00pm

re: #112 Blind Frog Belly White

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Mark my words these withdrawals will cause more problems.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:39:47pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Hell yeah.

So we made a thoroughfare for freedom and her train,
Sixty miles in latitude, three hundred to the main;
Treason fled before us, for resistance was in vain
While we were marching through Georgia.

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wrenchwench  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:39:51pm

re: #107 Patricia Kayden

What is that?

A second-hand U-Haul with a fancy new paint job at a downtown fight in small-town Oregon. Or something like that. First I’d seen of the slogan, ‘nazi is just the n-word for white men’.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:40:00pm

re: #113 Skip Intro

General Mills? Trump’s heard a lot of good things about him.

General Electric is doing great things but he also owns lying NBC.//

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:40:02pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Translation: “You want a ‘yes man’ and I’m done being that guy.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:40:17pm

re: #113 Skip Intro

General Mills? Trump’s heard a lot of good things about him.

I hear he’s a cereal killer.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:40:36pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s gotta be some kind of record. Has any other President lost this many staff in two years?

Based on my quick wikipedia research: Bush and Obama had two Secretaries that left in the first two years; Clinton had 3. Nothing on the order of magnitude that Trump has had.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:41:20pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

Heaven help the South when Sherman comes their way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:41:32pm

re: #122 KGxvi

Based on my quick wikipedia research: Bush and Obama had two Secretaries that left in the first two years; Clinton had 3. Nothing on the order of magnitude that Trump has had.

“…only the best people.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:41:40pm

re: #112 Blind Frog Belly White

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:41:50pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:41:53pm

Polite way to exit the building when a deranged man is in control.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:43:00pm

Now Mattis if he were to write a book, I think it would be the most interesting of any admin insider.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:43:40pm

re: #118 wrenchwench

A second-hand U-Haul with a fancy new paint job at a downtown fight in small-town Oregon. Or something like that. First I’d seen of the slogan, ‘nazi is just the n-word for white men’.

Wow!! So someone was just casually driving around with that message on their vehicle. I’m not easily shocked but wow.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:45:37pm

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

Wow!! So someone was just casually driving around with that message on their vehicle. I’m not easily shocked but wow.

I suspect it’s up near the panhandle of Idaho, which has a long history of white supremacists and neo-nazis.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:45:39pm

This should settle the debate over Confederate statues, once and for all. If one black Republican said it’s not racist, then it’s not racist. *Sarcasm*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:48:06pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:48:40pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:48:44pm

re: #131 DodgerFan1988

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This should settle the debate over Confederate statues, once and for all. If one black Republican said it’s not racist, then it’s not racist. *Sarcasm*

Same reason “Redskins” isn’t racist - someone somewhere found one Native American who said he didn’t mind.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:49:01pm

re: #131 DodgerFan1988

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This should settle the debate over Confederate statues, once and for all. If one black Republican said it’s not racist, then it’s not racist. *Sarcasm*

A Christian man of valor who put captured black union men into slavery. Fuck Lee. Stop venerating a traitor.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:49:42pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Nah Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Major Henry Wirz

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sagehen  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:50:24pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

Translation: “You want a ‘yes man’ and I’m done being that guy.”

More fire than that.

“I believe in protecting our alliances and being clear-eyed about who’s our enemies, and you don’t. So I can’t serve your vision.” (paraphrase)

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:50:27pm

re: #136 BeenHereAwhile

Major Henry Wirz

He’s doing great things in Andersonville I hear.//

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:50:40pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

those employees include TSA, Border Patrol, ICE, law enforcement…

Meadows and the rest of his stupid Freedom Caucus dingbats are going to learn taking that kind of dismissive stance is going to cost them.

People are getting a real study into how much Republicans are nothing but assholes and they do not care about the little guys.

But go on Republican assholes…everyday more and more people are going to be forced to consider why they vote for you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:50:54pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

A Christian man of valor who put captured black union men into slavery. Fuck Lee. Stop venerating a traitor.

“Lee personally opposed slavery. But he did so quietly, you’d never have noticed it, what with the ‘owning slaves’ and the ‘enslaving captured Northern blacks - including free people’.
//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:52:12pm

So, wait - we’re pulling out of Syria, maybe pulling out of Afghanistan, talking about pulling out of NATO, AND dramatically increasing defense spending.

For what?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:52:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:53:29pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

“Lee personally opposed slavery. But he did so quietly, you’d never have noticed it, what with the ‘owning slaves’ and the ‘enslaving captured Norther blacks - including free people’.
//

Lee was a coward. George Thomas and Winfield Scott, both Virginia Union men are people who should be honored. So much of what popular conception of Lee comes from people who wanted to make him a warrior saint and ignore his bad qualities including as a general.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:53:45pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

So, wait - we’re pulling out of Syria, maybe pulling out of Afghanistan, talking about pulling out of NATO, AND dramatically increasing defense spending.

For what?

For the graft of course.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:53:55pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

So, wait - we’re pulling out of Syria, maybe pulling out of Afghanistan, talking about pulling out of NATO, AND dramatically increasing defense spending.

For what?

Mexico!//

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:56:07pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

So, wait - we’re pulling out of Syria, maybe pulling out of Afghanistan, talking about pulling out of NATO, AND dramatically increasing defense spending.

For what?

The Military-Industrial Complex doesn’t really care if the bombs get dropped, just that more of them get produced.

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Skip Intro  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:56:17pm

So now the troops will be available to build the wall. Ten dimensional chess, that’s what Trump’s playing.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:57:23pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:59:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 2:59:58pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

So, wait - we’re pulling out of Syria, maybe pulling out of Afghanistan, talking about pulling out of NATO, AND dramatically increasing defense spending.

For what?

the border, silly!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:00:27pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Lee was a coward. George Thomas and Winfield Scott, both Virginia Union men are people who should be honored. So much of what popular conception of Lee comes from people who wanted to make him a warrior saint and ignore his bad qualities including as a general.

Everyone talks Lee up as some sort of brilliant strategist, but to be perfectly honest, much of his success was owed to the complete incompetence of his opponents. He made some ballsy plays on the field not because they were brilliant, but because he knew (or hoped) his opponent would be too preoccupied with his own plans to take advantage.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:02:07pm

re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Everyone talks Lee up as some sort of brilliant strategist, but to be perfectly honest, much of his success was owed to the complete incompetence of his opponents. He made some ballsy plays on the field not because they were brilliant, but because he knew (or hoped) his opponent would be too preoccupied with his own plans to take advantage.

Longstreet is underrated but there’s a reason for that. The Lost Causers hated that he became a Republican, Catholic, & critical of Lee in his memoirs.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:02:35pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

the border, silly!

Seriously, I think it’s turning into just a bragging thing for Trump - “Look at my beeyooteeful Army! It’s OOZES Quality!”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:03:19pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:03:34pm

re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Everyone talks Lee up as some sort of brilliant strategist, but to be perfectly honest, much of his success was owed to the complete incompetence of his opponents. He made some ballsy plays on the field not because they were brilliant, but because he knew (or hoped) his opponent would be too preoccupied with his own plans to take advantage.

Contrast with idiots has made many an average man look exceptional.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:03:46pm

Lee wasn’t a bad general but he did benefit from having McCllelan as a foil for a long time. If you have Grant In 1861 through the first half of 1863, things are different.

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unproven innocence  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:04:21pm

I’m personally willing to fund a TrumpWall*, as soon as I can afford it.

* And if I’m feeling really generous, he won’t have to sleep standing up.

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:04:24pm

And if the Freeper response is anything to go by, while some wingnuts will have misgivings, the majority are gonna be thrilled because “He badmouthed havin’ troops on the border! And he let trannies into the military!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:04:28pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Longstreet is underrated but there’s a reason for that. The Lost Causers hated that he became a Republican, Catholic, & critical of Lee in his memoirs.

Longstreet’s critical existence failure at Gettysburg didn’t win him any fans, either.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:06:00pm

This just in!

The roaches, rats and bedbugs fled the White House saying it was too contaminated for them to stay in!

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:06:50pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

As I mentioned yesterday, just up and leaving Syria is not a good strategy and is likely to make things worse. But I’m not sure that there’s anything Trump can or would do between now and January 2021 that wouldn’t make things worse, short of just kind of holding the status quo. And even that probably won’t accomplish much. I suspect things are going to get much worse before they get better.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:07:01pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Lee wasn’t a bad general but he did benefit from having McCllelan as a foil for a long time. If you have Grant In 1861 through the first half of 1863, things are different.

Plus, you know, Lincoln took a while to figure out that he wasn’t such a bad strategist, himself.

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:08:18pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

Plus, you know, Lincoln took a while to figure out that he wasn’t such a bad strategist, himself.

Well, Lincoln was busy fighting all those vampires, so that’s to be excused.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:10:36pm

re: #163 KGxvi

Well, Lincoln was busy fighting all those vampires, so that’s to be excused.

And he got a lot better once he was being played by Daniel Day Lewis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:14:23pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:16:02pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Merry Christmas, my fellow Americans…unless you’re poor, then FUCK YOU!”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:16:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:18:10pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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Bet he was fun to do shots with too. Rip cool otter.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:19:09pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:19:27pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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I’m about half as talented.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:19:59pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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That’s quite the obit.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:23:00pm

Defense secretary application/

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:25:12pm

Sorry, George. Mulvaney will be the next Secretary of Defense.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:25:24pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

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I do seriously wonder whether he actually looked in a mirror with the headpaint on and said, “Yeah, that’s it! That’ll work!”

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Scout  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:26:23pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Lee wasn’t a bad general but he did benefit from having McCllelan as a foil for a long time. If you have Grant In 1861 through the first half of 1863, things are different.

Lee was a good general. He wasn’t a great general.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:26:36pm

re: #170 Barefoot Grin

I’m about half as talented.

Good ballhandling skills?
//

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:29:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:30:22pm

re: #172 gocart mozart

Defense secretary application/

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Thought you were a coffee boy George.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:30:44pm

and for the halibut

The Who - Athena (+lyrics)

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:31:45pm

Hey folks! I’ve been head down at work all day. Anything new happening?

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:32:50pm
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jaunte  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:33:41pm
183
Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:33:53pm

Blitzer is so fucking worthless as an interviewer.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:34:24pm

Mrs. FBW has an annoying habit of saying pretty much exactly this, along with “Who is surprised by this?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:36:59pm
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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:37:19pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Mattis was fine with all the other dumbassery, idiocy, and undermining US national security.

This was the final straw.

Let’s put that in perspective. He was fine with the transgender ban. He was fine with Trump giving up leverage over North Korea and stopping joint exercises.

He was fine with Trump fucking around with our NATO allies and threatening that relationship. He refused to tell Trump that’s not how any of this works.

He was fine with all that. But this was the final straw?

Mattis is no hero for quitting now. He never was a hero - and that was evident from the moment he signed on for the Trump shitshow. He was fine with everything.

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:37:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:39:27pm

re: #187 jaunte

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Trump was working on his self-evaluation for Performance Review season, and there were some goals he was going to have to list as ‘Not Achieved’.

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:39:40pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

Blitzer is so fucking worthless as an interviewer.

Most of the media are worthless as interviewers, because they all crave access more than getting info public needs to make informed decisions.

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wrenchwench  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:40:30pm

re: #130 KGxvi

I suspect it’s up near the panhandle of Idaho, which has a long history of white supremacists and neo-nazis.

Nope. Willamette Valley. They’re everywhere. No longer afraid to show themselves.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:41:08pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:41:43pm

oops, pimf!

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:42:22pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

The WH is smoldering as it thinks this was the worst torch job by anyone to enter the place since the Brits did in 1814.

194
jaunte  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:42:34pm

re: #192 Single-handed sailor

Rubio has all the passion and urgency of a used dish towel.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:42:45pm

re: #186 lawhawk

Not that I think Mattis was a hero, but to be fair, he slow-walked the transgender ban, and spent a lot of effort on trying to keep allies reassured.

I suspect the reason this particular thing was the last straw was that it was so clearly not what Mattis believes is good for the country, and unlike the other things, it wouldn’t be possible for him to just not carry it out.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:43:11pm

re: #191 Single-handed sailor

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And you’ll vote for the rubber stamp that replaces him Marco because you’re a Republican above all else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:43:28pm

re: #191 Single-handed sailor

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Welcome to the party, pal.
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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:43:46pm

re: #192 Single-handed sailor

oops, pimf!

[Embedded content]

What oversight, you useless fuck?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:44:54pm

yes it is
yes it is.

200
HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:45:06pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

What oversight, you useless fuck?

Rubio really is the master of trying to be profound while being profoundly useless.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:46:05pm

re: #199 I Would Prefer Not To

yes it is
yes it is.

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That’s not how it works but please tell us more how you understand the Constitution.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:46:49pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

What oversight, you useless fuck?

Stern glances, maybe even strongly worded letters. Subpeonas of ex-government employees regarding cabinet officers from previous administrations. Slightly less ass-kissing in hearings involving current Administration officials.

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BlueGrl21  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:47:00pm

I think his screwing around with the military and all of these troop withdrawals is what is going to turn the Republican Party against him. Military is still their thing (they think) and he’s being insane. This is their hill to die on.

My theory. We’ll see.

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Targetpractice  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:49:48pm

re: #203 BlueGrl21

I think his screwing around with the military and all of these troop withdrawals is what is going to turn the Republican Party against him. Military is still their thing (they think) and he’s being insane. This is their hill to die on.

My theory. We’ll see.

I think further shit like this might be enough for Senate Dems to convince their Repub colleagues that just the threat of voting to remove Donny from office will be enough to change his behavior, if not actually going through with it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:50:05pm

re: #203 BlueGrl21

I think his screwing around with the military and all of these troop withdrawals is what is going to turn the Republican Party against him. Military is still their thing (they think) and he’s being insane. This is their hill to die on.

My theory. We’ll see.

I could see them in a “My daughter! My ducats!” dilemma - “My country! My reelection!” - but remember, the GOP Caucus in the House lost mostly “moderates”, leaving the crazies in charge.

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ObserverArt  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:50:09pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
From Mattis’ resignation letter, it looks like Trump’s impulsive snap decision to bail out of Syria without consulting anyone was the straw that broke the mad dog’s back.

5:51 PM - Dec 20, 2018

I might be late with this comment, but Pelosi and Schumer are saying Mattis was also pissed about putting troops on the border for no good reason. And, I think the straw that may have finally broken Mattis’ back was Trump asking the military to build the wall. So it sounds like Mattis has just flat out had it with Trump.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:53:37pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

Good ballhandling skills?
//

No, no…. I’m a 5’7”/190# middle aged white guy who can dunk like Dr. J.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:55:29pm

OT: I just got through resetting my iPad. I lost all of my TV shows and movies so I spent most of the day downloading them. After that amazon prime movies locked up and my system had well over 100 GB in it. I have no idea how that happened. I reset the iPad. So far it seems to be okay.

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retired cynic  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:55:42pm

apod.nasa.gov

Some photo: Methane Bubbles Frozen in Lake Baikal

(I can’t think about what DT is doing to our country just today. I’d go nutz.)

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Jay C  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:56:38pm

re: #207 ObserverArt

I might be late with this comment, but Pelosi and Schumer are saying Mattis was also pissed about putting troops on the border for no good reason. And, I think the straw that may have finally broken Mattis’ back was Trump asking the military to build the wall. So it sounds like Mattis has just flat out had it with Trump.

Yeah, you’d ’ think…
But: the big question now is who’s going to replace the “Mad Dog”?
Is there a “madder dog”??

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KGxvi  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:57:07pm

re: #192 Single-handed sailor

But we must also fulfill our constitutional duty to conduct oversight over the policies of the executive branch

Better late than never, comemierda.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:57:21pm
214
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2018 • 3:57:29pm

We might all be fucked before Mueller has the chance to save us.

January 3 can NOT get here fast enough.

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retired cynic  Dec 20, 2018 • 4:01:32pm

re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg

We might all be fucked before Mueller has the chance to save us.

January 3 can NOT get here fast enough.

The House can’t stop his appointments. It can make a stink, and investigate everything it can get its hands on. Not enough hands, I fear.

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William Lewis  Dec 20, 2018 • 4:03:49pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

So, wait - we’re pulling out of Syria, maybe pulling out of Afghanistan, talking about pulling out of NATO, AND dramatically increasing defense spending.

For what?

Keeping brown children from claiming asylum, duh!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2018 • 4:04:32pm
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plansbandc  Dec 20, 2018 • 4:12:22pm

I had to steal the General Mills line and add a Captain Crunch. (Cap’n).

:D

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William Lewis  Dec 20, 2018 • 4:35:05pm

re: #184 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

Mrs. FBW has an annoying habit of saying pretty much exactly this, along with “Who is surprised by this?”

The Wheels on The Bus are coming OFF OFF OFF,
OFF OFF OFF
OFF OFF OFF
The Wheels on the Bus are coming OFF OFF OFF
All through DC.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 20, 2018 • 4:37:16pm

Night Lizards. I came. I saw, I somewhat commented and now I leave. As always may the deity of your choice spiel down upon yours.

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Belafon  Dec 20, 2018 • 5:51:54pm

re: #85 KGxvi

That reminds me, I saw this the other day and now, very much want one:

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Except for the fact that I’m not into those kinds of cars, I would drive it here in the DFW area.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:38:41am

re: #199 I Would Prefer Not To

yes it is
yes it is.

The new Great MAGA Wall is already built and keeping out Terrorists but Dems must fund or Shutdown the Gov!


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