Seth Meyers Weighs in on Trump’s Shutdown Over His Racist Fantasy Wall [VIDEO]

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Seth takes a closer look at President Trump threatening a government shutdown over funding for his border wall just as he faces the most serious legal peril of his presidency.

Oh… and remember this? Trump’s Epic Meltdown in the Oval Office: “I’m Proud to Shut Down the Government.”

So predictable:

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:03:16pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:03:32pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:08:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:08:57pm
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jaunte  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:12:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:13:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:13:28pm

Just out from the Supreme Court:
Supreme Court denies Trump administration request to immediately enforce new asylum rules (Washington Post)

Four justices supported the maladministration: Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh.

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plansbandc  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:15:55pm

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nines09  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:16:31pm

Guess whose birthday it is today?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:18:23pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

No Post Offices for the GOP to rename this week.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:19:14pm

The Dow falls to Sept 2017 levels: -327.29 (-1.43%) as of 3:17PM EST.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:21:23pm

re: #9 nines09

Guess whose birthday it is today?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:21:41pm

On Maggie Haberman:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:22:44pm

re: #11 Dr. Matt

The Dow falls to Sept 2017 levels: -327.29 (-1.43%) as of 3:17PM EST.

300 plus point drops every single day. That can’t be sustainable for long.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:25:23pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:27:32pm

re: #15 Single-handed sailor

Alright. Another clarification: This vote could actually fail. Corker and Flake might not vote for it.

A one last final fuck you to donnie would be great.

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calochortus  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:29:56pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

300 plus point drops every single day. That can’t be sustainable for long.

What astonishes me is that the markets fell off a cliff when the Fed announced the rate hike earlier this week. It wasn’t like it was some sort of secret that they were almost certain to do it.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:31:01pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Is this part of the Space Force Office of Military Winning?

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Jay C  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:31:20pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

300 plus point drops every single day. That can’t be sustainable for long.

No, it can’t.
At this rate (if maintained consistently) the DJIA will hit zero sometime around March 15th.
Turnaround opportunity!!!

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harlequinade  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:32:26pm

re: #16 Dr. Matt

Could Flake object, and kill it like Mitch did to his Mueller bill?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:32:32pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹

Just out from the Supreme Court:
Supreme Court denies Trump administration request to immediately enforce new asylum rules (Washington Post)

Four justices supported the maladministration: Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh.

Justice Roberts screwed the wingnuts again.

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:33:02pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

300 plus point drops every single day. That can’t be sustainable for long.

Isn’t a bear market defined as a 20% drop in a two or three month period? Because we’re at about a 10% loss in the last 2-3 months.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:33:21pm

re: #3 Single-handed sailor

They’ll learn you yet

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:34:29pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:34:58pm

re: #20 harlequinade

Could Flake object, and kill it like Mitch did to his Mueller bill?

He could vote Yes then change his vote to No giving him control of the bill by tabling it.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:35:30pm

The Dow over the last two years. Pure #maga

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calochortus  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:35:50pm

re: #22 KGxvi

Isn’t a bear market defined as a 20% drop in a two or three month period? Because we’re at about a 10% loss in the last 2-3 months.

It’s a correction!

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:37:40pm

re: #22 KGxvi

Correction: 10%
Bear market: 20% over 2 month period across multiple indices.

There’s been a couple of corrections since midyear. The current one seems to have a different feel to it, and for it to become a bear market, we’d probably have go to 20,660 or by end of next month.

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:37:43pm

re: #15 Single-handed sailor

Of course they’ll vote for it, then do some heavy duty tweeting criticizing it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:38:14pm

re: #27 calochortus

It’s a correction!

Yep. 20 plus would be a bear.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:38:54pm
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harlequinade  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:38:57pm

re: #25 Joe Bacon 🌹

Someone needs to slide that into his DMs

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:39:04pm

re: #9 nines09

Guess whose birthday it is today?

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Happy BDay Frank. You are missed.

Frank Zappa - Flower Punk

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Dr. Matt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:40:00pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:40:46pm

re: #16 Dr. Matt

A one last final fuck you to donnie would be great.

I heard Flake is a no and Corker…well, he’s undecided.

Anyone surprised?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:40:50pm

re: #19 Jay C

No, it can’t.
At this rate (if maintained consistently) the DJIA will hit zero sometime around March 15th.
Turnaround opportunity!!!

Dow now down over 460.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:41:20pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

Dow now down over 460.

For fuck sakes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:42:06pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

Dow now down over 460.

Could be what I’ve been predicting that foreigners are dumping US stocks!

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:43:53pm

On my way back to work after lunch I saw a car with a bumper sticker that read “BILLIONAIRES CAN’T BUY BERNIE.” I rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:44:09pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

Dow now down over 460.

Cracking into the 21K floor would be great right before Xmas.

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sagehen  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:45:19pm

re: #21 Sir John Barron

Justice Roberts screwed the wingnuts again.

He’s an institutionalist.

As much as he likes conservative rules, he cares even more that “The Roberts Court” should be seen as protecting the independence of the judiciary.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:45:54pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

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Jay C  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:46:45pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Could be what I’ve been predicting that foreigners are dumping US stocks!

Wouldn’t be surprising: they’ve supposedly been buying into the US market for years (y’know, attracted by that slow-but-steady growth): even bailing now at these levels has got to still be ahead of the game.

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sagehen  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:47:05pm

re: #35 ObserverArt

I heard Flake is a no and Corker…well, he’s undecided.

Anyone surprised?

Corker’s no undecided; he’s in Tennessee.

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Targetpractice  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:47:10pm

The GOP watch as every bit of “good” that was to come out of their tax bill is ignited in a temper tantrum from the asshole they propped up for months to make it happen.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:48:00pm

On that Supreme Court vote to turn down Trumper today. Ruth Bader Ginsburg enthusiastically voted no from her hospital bed. Per NBC’s Pete Williams.

You go Ruth!

And good health to you.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:49:58pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:50:02pm

Donnie has promised this fucker something.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:50:31pm

re: #44 sagehen

Corker’s no undecided; he’s in Tennessee.

It is my understanding all of the Senate members are scrambling to head back for the voting. That was the word earlier anyway. That is one of the reasons for the holdup on the votes.

And if true, I bet the senators are really enjoying this Trump Show.

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:51:12pm

re: #47 Barefoot Grin

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Damn, he’s brought in the entire Trump brain trust!

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:52:52pm

re: #48 Dr. Matt

Shut the fuck up, Butters.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:54:07pm

re: #48 Dr. Matt

Donnie has promised this fucker something.

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Secretary of Defense?

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:54:12pm

re: #47 Barefoot Grin

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Perhaps this is why I’m too petty to be a Senator, or even on a staff, because I’d have every TV cued up with Trump taking credit for the shut down on a loop.

And then kindly tell them to fuck off on anything that wasn’t a clear CR.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:55:52pm

re: #52 Single-handed sailor

Secretary of Defense?

Every Senator who’s taking a job in Trumpworld has ended up ceding the seat to a Democrat.

So… go for it?

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KGxvi  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:56:55pm

re: #52 Single-handed sailor

Secretary of Defense?

Graham is 63, and while he’s up again in 2020, last time he won 54-38 in the general (and wasn’t really challenged in the primary). He could have this gig for another 30 years, if he really wanted to. Why go be Secretary of Defense for Trump of all presidents?

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Jay C  Dec 21, 2018 • 12:59:34pm

re: #49 ObserverArt

It is my understanding all of the Senate members are scrambling to head back for the voting. That was the word earlier anyway. That is one of the reasons for the holdup on the votes.

And if true, I bet the senators are really enjoying this Trump Show.

Enjoy it or hate it (and I’m guessing the latter isn’t much of a minority position), the GOP are probably going to try to pull all the stops out to try to pass the “Wall Budget” before adjourning - any opposition notwithstanding. Flake and Corker are obvious NFLTG, but the rest of them probably don’t want to have to spend their holiday break listening to the wingnuts roast them over the stupid fucking Wall. Going home with a “win” for President Big Damn Hero is a positive for Flyover Country. And beside, they (most of them) will just have to come back and start all over again in January.
Which, Dem House aside, is still going to be Mitch McConnell’s private shitshow over on the EastNorth Side.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:00:53pm

At 4:00 EST

DJIA 22,437.07
-422.53 -1.85%

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fern01  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:02:53pm

re: #48 Dr. Matt

Donnie has promised this fucker something.

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Syria turnaround - more war.

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Jay C  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:04:13pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Every Senator who’s taking a job in Trumpworld has ended up ceding the seat to a Democrat.

So… go for it?

In South Carolina, though?? SRSLY??

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:05:07pm

Watching Nicole Wallace MSNBC. She just said a Trump loyalist just told her (paraphrasing) “He’s scared. He’s scared of Mueller. He is scared of his base. He sees everything crumbling down around him.”

Good. Fucker!

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:06:00pm

re: #59 Jay C

Doug Jones beat Roy Moore… so it’s possible. Given that the GOP keeps putting up the worst kind of people, you could do worse.

And Graham will be gone because he’ll have sold out to Trumpworld and sucked into that morass of criminality and complicity entirely.

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sagehen  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:06:32pm

re: #59 Jay C

In South Carolina, though?? SRSLY??

That’s about as likely as… Alabama.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:07:27pm
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fern01  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:09:19pm

re: #60 ObserverArt

Watching Nicole Wallace MSNBC. She just said a Trump loyalist just told her (paraphrasing) “He’s scared. He’s scared of Mueller. He is scared of his base. He sees everything crumbling down around him.”

Good. Fucker!

“A rogue presidency” from the commentator

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:09:54pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

The only Republicans who voted against it are Amash (MI), Rokita (IN), and Sanford (SC).

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makeitstop  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:10:51pm

re: #60 ObserverArt

Watching Nicole Wallace MSNBC. She just said a Trump loyalist just told her (paraphrasing) “He’s scared. He’s scared of Mueller. He is scared of his base. He sees everything crumbling down around him.”

Good. Fucker!

May he suffer every bit as much as those he’s made suffer. The pig.

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makeitstop  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:18:13pm

Heh.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:21:01pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:22:01pm

Poll from YouGov … a quarter of non-voters now say they wish they’d cast a ballot in 2016 for President. (Those are the people we should be working hardest on winning over.)

In other parts of the poll, conservative voters are still confused about every sort of thing Trump has or hasn’t done.

huffingtonpost.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:22:34pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

All the way back to Henry Ford and the International Jew. That’s how long it’s been weaponised.

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makeitstop  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:23:46pm

Granpa Pig is gonna be even more cranky…

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makeitstop  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:25:51pm

Fuck. Get ready for more of this. Thread.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:26:20pm

To me… it’s simple.

I’m not Jewish, and I don’t assume everyone I encounter is Jewish, so I say Happy Holidays.

Maybe that’s just because I live and work in NYC metro, and I’m going to come across people from every kind of religious background and experience… but it’s not disrespectful to say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, especially when most people aren’t religiously Christian and see it as a secular holiday.

The commercialization means the so-called war is even more BS, especially since commercial interests start spewing Christmas stuff beginning around…. checking calendar December 26 of the prior year, and in earnest from Labor Day forward.

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:26:50pm
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Jay C  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:27:08pm

re: #61 lawhawk

re: #62 sagehen

No expert on SC politics (and will be glad to be proved wrong here), but ISTR that Roy Moore got the GOP nom in Alabama because he was already a big player in the state (Ten Commandments and all) and had a “base” hopped up to see him run. AFAIK, the SC GOP has a much tighter handle on who they are likely to bring forward to nominate and (it being SC). elect.
Like I said, I hope I’m wrong.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:28:17pm

re: #71 makeitstop

Granpa Pig is gonna be even more cranky…

Too bad, chowderhead. You had a deal on the Continuing Resolution and you blew it up.

I’m sure people in Palm Beach will be happy though.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:29:36pm

Just sent a terse message to my buddy Rob Portman.

Busting him for the shutdown and Trump’s threat of withdrawls in the ME and the great tax cuts and stock market.

I won’t bother you with the comments. But I closed with:

Don’t have a Merry Christmas. You don’t deserve one.

But I will give you a lump of beautiful clean coal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:29:46pm

People have been celebrating the winter solstice since long before Christianity.

I have no problem with “Peace on Earth and Good Will to Everyone”

I do have a problem on Christians claiming some exclusive rights to the season.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:31:15pm

Suckers!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:32:35pm

re: #73 lawhawk

Folks who are aggressively Christian and know I’m an atheist weaponise “Merry Christmas” when spitting it out in my direction.

I usually respond with “thank you, and you too” or “and a Happy New Year to you.”

Fortunately here there aren’t many people like that to me. It was far worse when I was in the Navy.

Trending on Twitter is still the hashtag TrumpResign with 458,000 tweets… .

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:33:10pm
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Mike Lamb  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:35:59pm

re: #73 lawhawk

This. Saying “Happy Holidays” is a just a minor shout out to the fact that there are multiple, generally overlapping, holidays for different cultural backgrounds. That people get offended by it is insane.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:36:10pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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I didn’t know the pharmaceutical companies were all in Mexico.

Funny that.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:40:57pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

I didn’t know the pharmaceutical companies were all in Mexico.

Funny that.

Or that the majority of opioids are coming via ports of entry and legal procurement. Or that the illegal source of opioids is coming from China in small quantity shipments that are easily distributed by mail.

Mexico isn’t the cause, or solution to, the opioid crisis. And the wall certainly wont solve it, when Purdue and other pharma companies repeatedly were caught lying about how addictive their new opioids were.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:41:02pm

re: #79 DodgerFan1988

Suckers!

Why hasn’t GoFundMe shut down this scam yet? I would think they would care about their reputation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:43:01pm

LOL

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:44:13pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

Costing even more - because instead of all of them flying down together, they’ll have to fly separately.

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fern01  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:45:53pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

And who, given the choice, would stay in the WH with trump at the minute.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 21, 2018 • 1:53:06pm

re: #48 Dr. Matt

Donnie has promised this fucker something.

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Trump will, of course, screw him on the deal.

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ThomasLite  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:00:03pm

re: #55 KGxvi

Graham is 63, and while he’s up again in 2020, last time he won 54-38 in the general (and wasn’t really challenged in the primary). He could have this gig for another 30 years, if he really wanted to. Why go be Secretary of Defense for Trump of all presidents?

Oh I don’t know about that. Have you seen the about-face Graham has made shortly after Mccain died? I mean, might be that that was the one factor holding up his (pretense of a) spine, but TBH given the enthousiasm with which he’s turned trumpist frankly I’m going with the theory there’s both a live boy and a dead girl and something probably much worse someone’s got over him, and since that wouldn’t be going away any more ever again I’m fairly sure he’s going to fade away in a few years and hope he can live out his years in quiet.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I really don’t think Graham will be around in 10 years time.
OTOH taking secdef wouldn’t exactly be the most risk-averse move either so he might well stay put under my theory just the same.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:06:17pm

re: #91 ThomasLite

Oh I don’t know about that. Have you seen the about-face Graham has made shortly after Mccain died? I mean, might be that that was the one factor holding up his (pretense of a) spine, but TBH given the enthousiasm with which he’s turned trumpist frankly I’m going with the theory there’s both a live boy and a dead girl and something probably much worse someone’s got over him, and since that wouldn’t be going away any more ever again I’m fairly sure he’s going to fade away in a few years and hope he can live out his years in quiet.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I really don’t think Graham will be around in 10 years time.
OTOH taking secdef wouldn’t exactly be the most risk-averse move either so he might well stay put under my theory just the same.

That about face occurred right after Trump had his private golf outing with Graham, away from the press and microphones.

Remember, the RNC was hacked by Russia as well.

I’m out. The Sailor Jerry rum won’t finish itself and I’m way past bedtime.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:08:24pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

300 plus point drops every single day. That can’t be sustainable for long.

You’d think that.

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ThomasLite  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:15:49pm

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹

That about face occurred right after Trump had his private golf outing with Graham, away from the press and microphones.

Remember, the RNC was hacked by Russia as well.

I’m out. The Sailor Jerry rum won’t finish itself and I’m way past bedtime.

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Oh now you mention it, that’s right. I couldn’t quite remember what it was that really set off the blackmail-dar but that’s it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:23:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:24:46pm

Conservatives are freakin’ scary. It’s like Rwanda’s radio station trying to drum up genocide.

(Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language, 9:15)

Short take: Bernstein wants to round up everyone on the left (and some on the right) and treat them like North Korea.

Josh Bernstein Wants to Emulate North Korea

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:27:31pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Depending on how wide those slats are, I could get through them. (I can get through the space left by one cinder block.)

Plus no one would think to pass things through that.

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Targetpractice  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:27:42pm

So, for those playing the home game, the DHS wasted millions on wall prototypes that Trump has now totally forgotten about in order to bullshit voters into believing that all he wants is steel slates…you know, after spending the better part of three years insisting it would be a concrete structure that would be impossible to climb over or tunnel beneath.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:31:10pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

I know it’s just a dumb graphic but by inference it’s implying a wall about 50 feet tall.

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:33:54pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

You can always tunnel UNDER it.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:34:13pm

re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg

I know it’s just a dumb graphic but by inference it’s implying a wall about 50 feet tall.

He did mention they make precast concrete slabs 50 feet or more in length.

So, the taller the better to Trump.

It makes up for mushroom shortcomings…if you know what I mean.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:36:40pm

re: #100 Skip Intro

You can always tunnel UNDER it.

We build The Great Artistic Slat Wall…and they build something like the El Chapo Tunnel system.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:38:49pm
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nines09  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:39:06pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve been in and out all day. You had posted about Sailor Jerry Rum earlier. Did you know about the stickers on the back of the label?

There’s a Secret Sticker on Every Label of Sailor Jerry Rum

Warm water and patience. For the old ones. Maybe the newer are more easily opened.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:39:56pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Hell you could barrel an SUV into that wall and create a huge hole in it.

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:42:35pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

I don’t think Trump knows shit about building.

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makeitstop  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:46:50pm
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fern01  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:49:12pm

re: #106 Skip Intro

I don’t think Trump knows shit about buildinganything.

Small fix

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bratwurst  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:51:45pm

Didn’t we have a right winger who showed up to give a running commentary every time the market hiccuped late in the Obama administration?

I guess he isn’t such a faithful Dow watcher with Trump in office.

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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:52:31pm

re: #3 Single-handed sailor

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They are animals
It’s their job

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:52:38pm

But…but…but…Sarah Sanders told me that this was the LAST thing that our enemies wanted, for us to tuck tail and run!

You mean she wasn’t being completely honest with me? I CAN’T believe THAT!!

//// x 10^100

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Mike Lamb  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:53:14pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

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He really thinks “Steel Slat Barrier” is a winner? Truly?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:56:14pm

re: #112 Mike Lamb

He really thinks “Steel Slat Barrier” is a winner? Truly?

“We’ll build a wall of steel slats, and Mexico will pay China for it!”

or,

“We’ll build a wall of steel slats, and Mexican scrap dealers will profit from it!”

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fern01  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:56:58pm

re: #112 Mike Lamb

He really thinks “Steel Slat Barrier” is a winner? Truly?

He doesn’t think - take away how normal people talk, think, act - and you have trump.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 21, 2018 • 2:57:01pm

Ok, I’ll go to my room now.

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:00:07pm

So are those steel piles that will be driven into the ground? That makes them something like 80+ feet long, depending on how deep they have to be driven and assuming ground conditions are such that they can be driven at all. Then welders will come along to put the points on. I think that raises the cost around 10 times higher than Trump claims, at a minimum.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:01:19pm

“It’s good that you done that, Anthony Donald! REAL good! Isn’t it good that he done that?”

It’s good that you done that. Real good!
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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:04:42pm

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People have been celebrating the winter solstice since long before Christianity.

I have no problem with “Peace on Earth and Good Will to Everyone”

I do have a problem on Christians claiming some exclusive rights to the season.

No one owns the season..or any season

If you want specific recognition of the holiday you celebrate tell me how I’m supposed to know by looking at you

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:04:47pm

Spikes. lmao

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Mattand  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:06:31pm

re: #115 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You are truly history’s greatest monster.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:06:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:09:07pm
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calochortus  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:09:23pm

re: #118 dangerman

No one owns the season..or any season

If you want specific recognition of the holiday you celebrate tell me how I’m supposed to know by looking at you

When people wish me “happy,” “merry,” “good,” anything I take that as a kind wish for good things. I don’t reprimand them for wishing me the wrong type of joy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:10:27pm

re: #106 Skip Intro

I don’t think Trump knows shit about building anything.

FTFY

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:12:40pm
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DodgerFan1988  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:13:25pm

I don’t understand these Right Wingers. They hate refugees, yet they support Putin’s expansion foreign policy. What do think will happen when Russian troops invade Ukraine, Poland, The Baltics, and the rest of Eastern Europe? More refugees.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:14:40pm
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Mattand  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:15:17pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

re: #73 lawhawk

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

My rule of thumb is that if you have even the faintest odor of War on Xmas on you, I will carpet bomb you with “Happy Holidays” until you’re crying in a corner of your manger display, cuddling a Bill O’Reilly book for support.

This fucking War on Xmas shit is, without a doubt, what has ruined Christmas for me over the last 15 years. What really rubs my reindeer the wrong way is that people have been saying “Happy Holidays” or “Seasons Greetings” since I was a kid. That’s 52 goddamn years on this mud ball.

This crap didn’t start until white Christians realized people weren’t going to let them monopolize December with this “Love Christmas or get out of the country” horseshit anymore.

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fern01  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:15:18pm

re: #126 DodgerFan1988

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I don’t understand these Right Wingers. They hate refugees, yet they support Putin’s expansion foreign policy. What do think will happen when Russian troops invade Ukraine, Poland, The Baltics, and the rest of Eastern Europe? More refugees.

Ah - but these refugees are different to the ones from Africa - I’m just trying to determine what makes them different.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:15:20pm

re: #125 gocart mozart

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And a Vlad is involved with both of them.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:16:04pm

re: #123 calochortus

When people wish me “happy,” “merry,” “good,” anything I take that as a kind wish for good things. I don’t reprimand them for wishing me the wrong type of joy.

When I was a little kid—so like 60 years ago—my Mom would buy Christmas cards in boxes with stacks of four different kinds. Only one would say “Merry Christmas”. The others would be “Seasons’ Greetings”, “Happy Holidays”, maybe a “Jouyeux Noel”—it varied. The War on Christmas™ has been going on for a looooong time!

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:17:12pm

Fuck off Bill!

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:18:10pm

re: #126 DodgerFan1988

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I don’t understand these Right Wingers. They hate refugees, yet they support Putin’s expansion foreign policy. What do think will happen when Russian troops invade Ukraine, Poland, The Baltics, and the rest of Eastern Europe? More refugees.

Thinking ahead is not a wingnut feature.

Actually thinking isn’t a feature.

Now knee-jerking responses is right up their alley.

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Mattand  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:18:56pm

re: #132 DodgerFan1988

I’m guessing this tweet is my fault for mentioning him in my previous post.

I basically Beetlejuiced Bill O’Reilly.

Happy Holidays!!!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:20:53pm

re: #132 DodgerFan1988

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Fuck off Bill!

I’ve got a feeling Donny’s gonna go like Elvis—before RBG does….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:21:34pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:22:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:23:05pm

...

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:26:06pm

Petri snark

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:27:54pm

re: #132 DodgerFan1988

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Fuck off Bill!

You’re a sick asshole Bill. Hopefully RBG outlives you and has the last laugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:28:27pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:28:48pm

re: #128 Mattand

My rule of thumb is that if you have even the faintest odor of War on Xmas on you, I will carpet bomb you with “Happy Holidays” until you’re crying in a corner of your manger display, cuddling a Bill O’Reilly book for support.

This fucking War on Xmas shit is, without a doubt, what has ruined Christmas for me over the last 15 years. What really rubs my reindeer the wrong way is that people have been saying “Happy Holidays” or “Seasons Greetings” since I was a kid. That’s 52 goddamn years on this mud ball.

This crap didn’t start until white Christians realized people weren’t going to let them monopolize December with this “Love Christmas or get out of the country” horseshit anymore.

I remember helping my mom decorate back in the early 60s when I was like 7 or so. One of the things we put up were those cardboard with color foil overlaid letters that hung on a string over a doorway or whatever that said both Happy Holidays and Season’s Greetings.

And my parents were very much practicing Catholics.

But then, many fundamentalists don’t think Catholics are Christians. So…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:28:52pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I bet nearly every Republican did but they’re all clearly enablers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:34:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:37:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:37:51pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump wants to make them with Cor-Ten steel so they get nice and rusty…

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:39:40pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:43:39pm

THE WORST THING EVER

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Jay C  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:48:44pm

re: #126 DodgerFan1988

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I don’t understand these Right Wingers. They hate refugees, yet they support Putin’s expansion foreign policy. What do think will happen when Russian troops invade Ukraine, Poland, The Baltics, and the rest of Eastern Europe? More refugees.

You think they care? Any refugees created by a Russian invasion of anyplace is just going to be assumed to be Someone Else’s Problem - and I’m certain they won’t be wanting to settle any of them here - and they’ll probably just blame Obama anyway, so what’s the big….?

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:49:24pm

Can we get Alex Jones committed for insanity?

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:52:37pm

re: #106 Skip Intro

I don’t think Trump knows shit about building.

No, but the Polish immigrants that built his tower that he stiffed sure do.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:55:18pm

re: #89 gocart mozart

Makes me think of this nice little movie I watched recently.

Vanessa Paradis & -M- “La seine” (Extrait du film “Un monstre à Paris”)

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 3:58:57pm

re: #151 Ace Rothstein

No, but the Polish immigrants that built his tower that he stiffed sure do.

I went to one of his first rallies in Derry, NH in 2015. His whole schtick was “I’m a builder, I know how to get these things done. I’m gonna build it 40 feet high and you know what, maybe I’ll even put my name on it!” [This is pretty close to what he actually said and the crowd went wild. After seeing that horror I started to tell liberal colleagues that the shit was real and that he could win. I got laughed at.]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:00:09pm

he’s busy busy busy

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:03:03pm

The paper is BLANK!!!

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:04:11pm

re: #155 Skip Intro

They always are.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:05:40pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Man. It’s not every day that you see CTV (which tends to ‘conservatism’ in its news) quote somebody from the NDP favourably.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:06:11pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:11:50pm

re: #150 ObserverArt

Can we get Alex Jones committed for insanity?

He lives in Texas. They’d be more likely to elect him to the school board.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:17:27pm

A car was launched into the air off a concrete barrier on one side of a tunnel entrance, hitting the top of the tunnel before crashing down. Police said that the driver did not have serious injuries and passed a breathalyzer test.

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:17:45pm
A U.S. increasingly hostile to immigration, as well as escalating living costs, have prompted an exodus of Indian technology workers to Canada, where open tech positions are forecast to reach 200,000 by 2020. Key destinations include Toronto, which plays host to artificial intelligence (AI) development efforts, along with startups like the popular Wattpad storytelling platform. Other attractive Canadian AI centers include Ottawa, home to the Shopify e-commerce platform, and Montreal, where the deep learning Element AI laboratory is located. To become more competitive in emerging tech industries, Canada has modified its permanent and temporary immigrant programs, with tech-skilled applicants in the former program receiving additional perks. The number of Indian nationals applying for permanent Canadian residency boomed between 2016 and 2017—up by 83% for those entering under a federal skills program, 122% for those selected by provinces to fill specific vacancies, and 538% for those who entered based on work experience.

economist.com

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:22:17pm

re: #161 Belafon

economist.com

This is exactly what Bannon wanted. He thought that if he could create conditions to get Asians to move on then white workers would finally get the jobs they had usurped. How such shit heads get access to power is the real problem.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:25:18pm

So… not quite sure who to root for here. Needless to say, if Dershowitz brings a suit against Taylor, it opens the door to all kinds of discovery, and that might not be what he wants. In fact, Dershowitz would/should know that as a public figure, the claims are even higher.

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:26:31pm
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TedStriker  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:26:55pm

re: #163 lawhawk

So… not quite sure who to root for here. Needless to say, if Dershowitz brings a suit against Taylor, it opens the door to all kinds of discovery, and that might not be what he wants. In fact, Dershowitz would/should know that as a public figure, the claims are even higher.

Either way, discovery’s gonna be a bitch for Dersh.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:28:05pm

re: #163 lawhawk

So… not quite sure who to root for here. Needless to say, if Dershowitz brings a suit against Taylor, it opens the door to all kinds of discovery, and that might not be what he wants. In fact, Dershowitz would/should know that as a public figure, the claims are even higher.

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Isn’t Claude a left-wing grifter? I fell victim to the Menschians in 2016 but soon realized how full of shit they often were.

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TedStriker  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:29:01pm

re: #166 Barefoot Grin

Isn’t Claude a left-wing grifter? I fell victim to the Menschians in 2016 but soon realized how full of shit they often were.

If so, both of them need to lose.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:29:37pm

re: #163 lawhawk

So… not quite sure who to root for here. Needless to say, if Dershowitz brings a suit against Taylor, it opens the door to all kinds of discovery, and that might not be what he wants. In fact, Dershowitz would/should know that as a public figure, the claims are even higher.

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Now, that is throwing down the gauntlet. Dersh has to respond.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:30:46pm
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plansbandc  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:31:22pm

re: #167 TedStriker

They will lose. Lots and lots of money.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:32:29pm

re: #166 Barefoot Grin

That’s quite my point. There are no winners here - except the lawyers who’ll be repping the sides and raking in considerable sums in the process.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:32:45pm

Look at Donnie trying to give the “Resolute Stare” from behind the “Resolute Desk.”

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:33:55pm

re: #171 lawhawk

That’s quite my point. There are no winners here - except the lawyers who’ll be repping the sides and raking in considerable sums in the process.

Thanks. I was never quite sure about Claude. But I seem to remember him getting money for his car projects based on his “hero for the cause” status.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:33:58pm

re: #166 Barefoot Grin

Isn’t Claude a left-wing grifter? I fell victim to the Menschians in 2016 but soon realized how full of shit they often were.

Claude and Louise are the left’s counterpart to the right’s gibbering lunatic preacher/prophets.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:34:06pm

re: #160 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Perfect video to illustrate the Trump admin.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:35:00pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

Stack of props alongside him.

And the thing is that there’s probably a bunch of post offices namings that have to be signed into law. Or like earlier today, renaming an office of the DHS to WMD from nuclear.

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gocart mozart  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:35:29pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:36:34pm

re: #177 gocart mozart

God be like: RBG ain’t going nowhere. Sorry, nutjobs.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:36:59pm

re: #177 gocart mozart

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If that happened with a conservative justice, the usual suspects would immediately credit prayer and divine intervention.

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ipsos  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:39:54pm

Why does Tweety think the SecDef’s name is “Mantis”?

WHY AM I WATCHING TWEETY?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:39:59pm

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

God be like: RBG ain’t going nowhere. Sorry, nutjobs.

Tide comes in; tide goes out; you can’t explain it. ///

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:40:56pm

re: #180 ipsos

Why does Tweety think the SecDef’s name is “Mantis”?

WHY AM I WATCHING TWEETY?

Why am I now watching Tweety in my mind saying this and knowing it’s true?

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:41:25pm

Bonus points if you can name the band and the one hit wonder.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:44:59pm
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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:47:38pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

Mbcql7ya4tgemooxk/DboCqpvfuD9kKmgVIbPwa+Tq8qDeIpBSG/NnGHBZ7KZd2AAM2yyfrgfOEQD0yGxwNb6XJnILnNKKiHcRfmWxrKJxmMmWk7k/bIkg==

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:49:39pm

re: #164 gocart mozart

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 21, 2018 • 4:52:26pm

re: #186 Belafon

The Maginot Line worked so well in protecting France against a German invasion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:00:54pm

hmmm

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:01:00pm

re: #187 Hecuba’s daughter

The Maginot Line worked so well in protecting France against a German invasion.

Agree, but his hypothetical is really stupid. History would be so different.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:02:47pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

hmmm

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Trump didn’t write that.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:05:05pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:05:38pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

What I think whenever I see the news these days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:06:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:06:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:07:17pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:09:15pm

Senate stands adjourned until 12 PM Saturday.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:10:52pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

He’ll do it, folks! He mad!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:10:56pm

re: #196 Single-handed sailor

Senate stands adjourned until 12 PM Saturday.

Merry Christmas federal workers!

You’re not getting paid because we want a damn steel fence.

Sincerely,
Republicans

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:12:25pm

Just discovered that never-Trumper Charlie Sykes has blocked me on Twitter. He used to follow me! Weird, I never interacted with him; maybe he got pissed at me for expressing my opinion about the Weekly Standard. In which case, fuck him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:14:03pm

We need a law that says members of Congress don’t get paid during Shutdowns.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:15:05pm

Also of note: This will be the 3rd shutdown under Trump, which I believe is a first for any President.

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Chrysicat  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:15:48pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:18:03pm

Trump is messing up all the Senator’s holiday plans. This will make them thrilled with their Donny.

Hahahahaha.

Everyday he makes more and more people sick of his Fake President Act®.

But the real conservative government is happy for so many reasons.

Who is the real conservative government you ask?

Why that would be Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham.

Yeah…no one elected them, but they are running this show.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:18:56pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

Also of note: This will be the 3rd shutdown under Trump, which I believe is a first for any President.

It’s a record.

It’s the third time there’s been a shutdown under the same president.
It’s the third shutdown in which the same political party holds House, Senate, and WH. That’s unprecedented and a record not likely to ever be broken.

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:19:02pm

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

We need a law that says members of Congress don’t get paid during Shutdowns.

You know who would have to write that law right?

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:20:01pm

re: #204 lawhawk

And in just two years.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:20:49pm

re: #199 Charles Johnson

Just discovered that never-Trumper Charlie Sykes has blocked me on Twitter. He used to follow me! Weird, I never interacted with him; maybe he got pissed at me for expressing my opinion about the Weekly Standard. In which case, fuck him.

I saw a couple minutes of Charlie today saying he is real scared of Trump and what he might do now that Mattis is gone. He fears an unbridled Trump.

Hey Charlie, you ass…you should have feared him about three or more years ago. But no, you like so many on the right were drunk on the conservative whine.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:22:28pm

re: #176 lawhawk

Ayup… the majority of that stack of bills to sign were…
POST OFFICE NAMING.

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:23:15pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

And in just two years.

All three Trump shutdowns occurred in 2018.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:25:47pm

re: #205 Skip Intro

You know who would have to write that law right?

Yes, I know, but I can dream.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:26:34pm

re: #209 lawhawk

All three Trump shutdowns occurred in 2018.

Yuuuge.

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:27:52pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:28:31pm

re: #187 Hecuba’s daughter

The Maginot Line worked so well in protecting France against a German invasion.

Reasonably certain the migrants won’t be driving tanks.

That said, Wall is solution to a problem that only racists believe in.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:30:42pm

NYT dumped an amazing piece of reporting on the Trump family’s generational crimes a few weeks ago and no one noticed. They need to do a “Slow Burn” or “Bag Man” style multi-part podcast on it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:33:06pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:34:46pm

re: #209 lawhawk

All three Trump shutdowns occurred in 2018.

It doesn’t appear to me that he’s learning how to do his job.

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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:35:04pm

re: #123 calochortus

When people wish me “happy,” “merry,” “good,” anything I take that as a kind wish for good things. I don’t reprimand them for wishing me the wrong type of joy.

Of course.
Only a small person would think “you didn’t wish me the right way”re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White

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Thanks to the tax cut, investors will be able to keep more of the money they are not making

Going broke from all that winning

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:38:42pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

That’s all well and good, but where’s the sharks with friggin’ laser beams?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:38:55pm

Presidents lawyer sent to Prison
Flynn accused of Treason
Giuliani losing his fucking mind
The Chief of Staff job no one wants
Troops out of Syria
Troops out of Afghanistan
Dow Jones has worst December since 1931
Mattis Quits
And now another government shutdown

This all in ONE MONTH. Most Presidencies don’t see this much crazy shit in a year.

Merry Fucking Christmas America!

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freetoken  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:39:29pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

Not to mention the metal points will be excellent lightning rods.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:41:09pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:41:52pm

re: #220 freetoken

Not to mention the metal points will be excellent lightning rods.

“Mr. Trump, for this next photo, we need you leaning imposingly against the wall. Put your hand on it and look Presidential.”

“Like this? Wow, those clouds are dark. Good thing there’s no global warming.”

“That’s perfect, sir. Any minute now.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:42:04pm

re: #213 Blind Frog Belly White

Reasonably certain the migrants won’t be driving tanks.

That said, Wall is solution to a problem that only racists believe in.

Except — didn’t the Germans try going around the line? It’s not as though this ridiculous wall is going to extend around our entire southern border.

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teleskiguy  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:42:35pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:43:08pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

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On the plus side, he’s not listening to Bolton.

OTOH, he’s not listening when Bolton makes sense, either.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:43:10pm

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

Except — didn’t the Germans try going around the line? It’s not as though this ridiculous wall is going to extend around our entire southern border.

Yes, that’s true. The Maginot Line was effective in deterring the German Army - so much so that they did an end run around it, turned around and attacked it from the rear, and some fortresses still held out for over a month after Paris fell. But the border wall won’t even be as effective as that, let alone the fact that it won’t completely seal off the border.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:46:26pm

re: #218 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s all well and good, but where’s the sharks with friggin’ laser beams?

That’s an optional add-on to the moat infrastructure extension. Only $28 billion per year.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:46:40pm

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

Except — didn’t the Germans try going around the line? It’s not as though this ridiculous wall is going to extend around our entire southern border.

Well, yeah. The French figured the Ardennes was impenetrable, so they anchored one end of the wall there and figured they were good.

Oops.

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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:47:07pm

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

We need a law that says members of Congress don’t get paid during Shutdowns.

For the obvious reasons, never gonna happen

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lawhawk  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:47:24pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

That’s an optional add-on to the moat infrastructure extension. Only $28 billion per year.

It’s a power-up in Kashing in on Klash of Klans.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:47:48pm

re: #230 lawhawk

It’s a power-up in Kashing in on Klash of Klans.

I see what you did there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:48:09pm

re: #226 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yes, that’s true. The Maginot Line was effective in deterring the German Army - so much so that they did an end run around it, turned around and attacked it from the rear, and some fortresses still held out for over a month after Paris fell. But the border wall won’t even be as effective as that, let alone the fact that it won’t completely seal off the border.

“Classic crust defense - punch through at any point and the whole thing fails.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:48:37pm

re: #228 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, yeah. The French figured the Ardennes was impenetrable, so they anchored one end of the wall there and figured they were good.

Oops.

Cubans certainly found alternative routes to reach the US — and not through Mexico.

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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:49:02pm

re: #204 lawhawk

It’s a record.

It’s the third time there’s been a shutdown under the same president.
It’s the third shutdown in which the same political party holds House, Senate, and WH. That’s unprecedented and a record not likely to ever be broken.

And they managed to do it in less than two years
some of the others had eight and couldnt

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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:50:30pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

And in just two years.

Gmta

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:50:40pm

re: #232 Blind Frog Belly White

“Classic crust defense - punch through at any point and the whole thing fails.”

Ironically, the French Army’s defense in depth wasn’t actually that bad. The problem was that they committed their best units to a fight on the wrong front, and put their weakest units at the hinge. If the 1st French Army had been held on the border and been available to counterattack against the bridgeheads once the aerial assault had failed, it probably would have been game over for the Germans. But as mentioned upthread, the French believed the Ardennes were impassable, and ignored intelligence reports suggesting that the Germans were coming that way.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:53:29pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

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This is Fine
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Dave In Austin  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:57:31pm

re: #237 ObserverArt

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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 5:59:31pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

How many mulvaneys in a scaramucci?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:00:14pm

re: #239 dangerman

How many mulvaneys in a scaramucci?

I believe it’s 12 Scaramuccis to the Mulvaney, but my reckoning of time may be altered slightly.

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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:01:27pm

re: #240 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I believe it’s 12 Scaramuccis to the Mulvaney, but my reckoning of time may be altered slightly.

It may be different south of the equator

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:03:49pm

re: #241 dangerman

It may be different south of the equator

Yeah, they swirl the other way going down the drain.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:06:50pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

I love machines, so I had to check out the video. Pretty cool idea. Motorized cross-country skiing…and your own way up the hill.

One question though. Will the ski resorts allow these everywhere on their slopes, or will they regulate them to certain areas?

I’m not a skier, but I do know some skiers and had a local ski shop as an advertising client for years. Some skiers can be pretty tough on anything new. I still remember when snow boards came out. There was some resentment and criticism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:12:02pm

re: #233 Hecuba’s daughter

Cubans certainly found alternative routes to reach the US — and not through Mexico.

That’s simply impossible. Every illegal immigrant and all illicit drugs enter through Mexico, in the middle of the desert, walked in by Bad Hombres.

///////////////////////////////////

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:12:04pm

Funny thing is, I had almost forgotten about the incredibly brief career of Anthony Scaramucci. We’ve stopped using him as a unit of measure for too long. Too many Scaramuccis have passed since we last measured something by a Scaramucci.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:12:36pm

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s simply impossible. Every illegal immigrant and all illicit drugs enter through Mexico, in the middle of the desert, walked in by Bad Hombres.

///////////////////////////////////

If Trump only knew how bad Florida is, he might do a Bugs Bunny.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:12:41pm

Working swing through the weekend but off on Tuesday and Wednesday. I get a pass on a party at a wingnuts house Saturday. Sometimes my shitty schedule pays off.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:13:06pm

re: #245 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Funny thing is, I had almost forgotten about the incredibly brief career of Anthony Scaramucci. We’ve stopped using him as a unit of measure for too long. Too many Scaramuccis have passed since we last measured something by a Scaramucci.

These last two years have been one hell of a decade or two.

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Jay C  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:13:15pm

re: #236 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ironically, the French Army’s defense in depth wasn’t actually that bad. The problem was that they committed their best units to a fight on the wrong front, and put their weakest units at the hinge. If the 1st French Army had been held on the border and been available to counterattack against the bridgeheads once the aerial assault had failed, it probably would have been game over for the Germans. But as mentioned upthread, the French believed the Ardennes were impassable, and ignored intelligence reports suggesting that the Germans were coming that way.

Not to mention the biggest problem with the Maginot Line was that it stopped at the Belgian border: and the French didn’t complete it because:
1) They didn’t want to spend the money, and
2) They didn’t want to offend the Belgians by fortifying their “peaceful” border, so they went with Plan B; i.e. wait til the Germans attacked through Belgium, then rush in with an armored force.

Would have worked, too, maybe: except the Belgians also abandoned the Ardennes sector. Ooops….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:13:41pm

re: #246 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If Trump only knew how bad Florida is, he might do a Bugs Bunny.

If he believed in climate change, he’d just wait a few years.

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teleskiguy  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:14:58pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

At the ski area my internet is very limited.

This was the first thing I saw on Facebook, so I shared it to Twitter and to my fellow Lizards here at LGF, because… neat, huh!

Then I checked LGF comments and Twitter.

Giphy

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:15:22pm

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s simply impossible. Every illegal immigrant and all illicit drugs enter through Mexico, in the middle of the desert, walked in by Bad Hombres.

///////////////////////////////////

With calves like cantaloupes.

You can never forget the calves like cantaloupes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:15:23pm

re: #249 Jay C

Not to mention the biggest problem with the Maginot Line was that it stopped at the Belgian border: and the French didn’t complete it because:
1) They didn’t want to spend the money, and
2) They didn’t want to offend the Belgians by fortifying their “peaceful” border, so they went with Plan B; i.e. wait til the Germans attacked through Belgium, then rush in with an armored force.

Would have worked, too, maybe: except the Belgians also abandoned the Ardennes sector. Ooops….

To be fair, the Belgians got surprised by getting their asses kicked at Eben-Emael. A handful of paratroopers with top-secret shaped charges really altered the landscape of the war.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:18:19pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:19:08pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:19:28pm

re: #243 ObserverArt

Will the ski resorts allow these everywhere on their slopes, or will they regulate them to certain areas?

I’m going to say no, too much liability.

Some skiers can be pretty tough on anything new. I still remember when snow boards came out. There was some resentment and criticism.

A news clip from the 1980s.

Skiers vs Snowboarders 1985

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teleskiguy  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:22:57pm

I know 80-year-old snowboarders. The sport has come a long way. And yet snowboarding is still not allowed at Deer Valley, Alta, or Mad River Glen to this day.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:25:11pm

re: #257 teleskiguy

I know 80-year-old snowboarders. The sport has come a long way. And yet snowboarding is still not allowed at Deer Valley, Alta, or Mad River Glen to this day.

A former relative of mine (ex-husband of a niece) was an Olympic skier who was in the first Games to feature skiing halfpipe. She snowboards, as do her brothers. I wish they would compete, they could make a name for themselves.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:25:25pm

re: #252 ObserverArt

With calves like cantaloupes.

You can never forget the calves like cantaloupes.

Wait - are we talking the small, grocery store-type cantaloupes? Or the big Eastern Shore Lopes?

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:27:49pm

re: #246 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If Trump only knew how bad Florida is, he might do a Bugs Bunny.

He knows.

He also knows his marks and how easy it is to make Mexicans enemies and ripe for hate.

I have a very conservative, but not nutty, brother out in Arizona.

Originally from Ohio of course he was out at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in the mid 60s and like it. So in the 70s he moved his family there. He is retired and lives south of Tucson. I also have two nieces from his family out there. And, I have two nieces from my wingnut oldest brother in the Phoenix area. All Ohio roots.

I don’t talk about Mexicans with many of them. Why? Because they are Ohioans that moved to Arizona and complain about a group of people that have lived in that area forever.

I don’t get it. But I am the know-nothing youngest brother that was never close to them because there are many years between us.

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teleskiguy  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:29:42pm

re: #258 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I competed when I was a teenager, got out of serious competition my senior year in high school. Even being a hot shot 17-year-old who was placing in the top third in most of the races I competed in (I trained with Tommy Moe and Daron Rahlves, I had a French coach from Chamonix take me under his wing when I was 14) I knew I wasn’t as good as your Lindsey Vonns and Ted Ligetys of today. And the racing life started to make skiing less fun for me, and I could never abide by that because since I was a little kid I’ve know skiing as one of the funnest fucking things ever.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:33:39pm

re: #261 teleskiguy

My would-be nephew narrowly missed a bronze medal in his inaugural Games. He’s too old now to be a serious competitor, but I have a feeling his younger brothers might yet make some noise in the skiing halfpipe in the coming winter Games. It is bittersweet to me, because I love the niece and I am deeply angry at his family for the way he treated her, but… OLYMPIC PARTICIPANTS.

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teleskiguy  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:34:48pm

Bye bye Central Valley, only one of the world’s most productive agricultural lands.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:40:18pm

re: #256 teleskiguy

I’m going to say no, too much liability.

A news clip from the 1980s.

[Embedded content]

Video

Yeah, that is what I remember.

And that is the time period I worked with the ski shop. I did his ads and newsletters all the way up to about 98 when he retired and closed the shop.

I got a kick out of the news reporter saying “a fad from California” almost saying it would not last.

Ha. Humans.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:40:42pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s busy busy busy

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:43:24pm

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait - are we talking the small, grocery store-type cantaloupes? Or the big Eastern Shore Lopes?

I dunno. You’d have to ask Steve King from Iowa.

Rep Steve King Immigrants Mostly ‘Evil’ Marijuana Smugglers With ‘Calves the Size of Cantaloupes’

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:46:49pm
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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:50:21pm

re: #266 ObserverArt

I dunno. You’d have to ask Steve King from Iowa.

[Embedded content]

Or Jimmy the Greek “bred for bigger thighs”. (I’m paraphrasing but only a bit)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:50:56pm

re: #267 GlutenFreeJesus

We don’t know what this is about. I’m willing to give her a pass at this point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:53:25pm

re: #267 GlutenFreeJesus

She’s already taking leave? Really?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez announces ‘self-care’ break before congressional session even starts

why not? She hasn’t been sworn in yet.

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Belafon  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:54:10pm

re: #267 GlutenFreeJesus

She’s already taking leave? Really?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez announces ‘self-care’ break before congressional session even starts

Well, considering she hasn’t actually started, she can’t be leaving anything. OTOH, how many other newly-elected reps have had to deal with what she has?

If you read the article, what she’s trying to do is figure out how to continue to take care of herself before she actually starts. She can’t quite do the same routine she used to do. She said she did yoga 3-4 times a week. Probably not going to be keeping the same schedule with Trump in the White House.

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nines09  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:55:20pm
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gwangung  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:56:14pm

re: #267 GlutenFreeJesus

She’s already taking leave? Really?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez announces ‘self-care’ break before congressional session even starts

Technically, she’s not even on the job until Jan. Taking leave for a break (and a Christmas break at that) ain’t even a blip.

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calochortus  Dec 21, 2018 • 6:59:27pm

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

[Embedded content]

Maybe the House and Senate secretly passed a CR and slipped it into that stack for him to sign. Would he even notice?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:03:06pm

good fucking grief

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dangerman  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:09:51pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

[Embedded content]
OUR GREAT COUNTRY MUST HAVE BORDER SECURITY

( It does)

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:12:30pm

re: #273 gwangung

Technically, she’s not even on the job until Jan. Taking leave for a break (and a Christmas break at that) ain’t even a blip.

We didn’t even know who she was a year ago.

She has had her life make quiet a turn in that time.

She has had a lot of crap thrown at her already by a lot of the media. That has got to be unsettling.

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Skip Intro  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:14:39pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

A Steven Miller production.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:15:01pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:15:47pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

[Embedded content]

Big Brother speaks.

Orwell would have loved it.

Be sure to vote for Big Brother Trump.

(Where I was going with this ‘shop from the other day.)

Vote For Dear Leader…Victory Will Be Ours
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Belafon  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:16:05pm

re: #277 ObserverArt

We didn’t even know who she was a year ago.

She has had her life make quiet a turn in that time.

She has had a lot of crap thrown at her already by a lot of the media. That has got to be unsettling.

The other thing she is doing is broadcasting what it’s actually like to be a rep. She says in the article that she wants people to see that she isn’t perfect, and to see that none of the Congresspeople are. Just as she told us about the orientation training that only involved business, she’s letting us know the other side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:16:34pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:21:40pm

re: #281 Belafon

The other thing she is doing is broadcasting what it’s actually like to be a rep. She says in the article that she wants people to see that she isn’t perfect, and to see that none of the Congresspeople are. Just as she told us about the orientation training that only involved business, she’s letting us know the other side.

We can admire that. It will soon be used against her though.

It will be made a sign of weakness and she isn’t ready for prime time. That is how it works in politics with a dedicated right thinking media.

She’ll handle it. But being honest also means opening up for attacks. She will learn that.

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ObserverArt  Dec 21, 2018 • 7:24:08pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I still think that first one against the overly decorative wall pattern looks like it is at Madame Tussauds Wax Museum.

He is that fake.

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makeitstop  Dec 21, 2018 • 8:00:34pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

Bonus points if you can name the band and the one hit wonder.

[Embedded content]

Prolly late to the party, but

Wale: Hobo Humpin’ Slobo Babe

I loved that video.


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