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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 1:46:11pm
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VegasGolfer  Dec 22, 2018 • 1:48:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 1:49:18pm

EXCUSE ME???!!!???

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:02:01pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:02:20pm

One of the best BLR yet.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:06:37pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Laurence Tribe ✔
@tribelaw
HOW DO YOU SPELL sacrificing the Kurds; inviting Moscow, Istanbul, and Teheran to carve up Syria while leaving Assad in power; abandoning the fights against ISIS & the Taliban; and shutting down the Government, to distract attention from Mueller & SDNY in just 5 letters? TRUMP.

1,234
4:45 PM - Dec 22, 2018

F-A-I-L-U-R-E

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:11:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:14:01pm

whodathot?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:16:31pm
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Alephnaught  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:18:14pm

I’ve found my old Christmas mixes, and I’m putting them on Mixcloud. This is my first one, from 2004. Like my early mixes, it’s very much “internet radio” style, before I developed a mix style. I’ll put more up tomorrow.

Warning, one or two tracks are NSFW.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:19:47pm

there’s always an old tweet

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Jay C  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:21:41pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And Lindsay is saying this like it’s a BAD thing???

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:22:46pm

Daryl Cagle

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:22:47pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:23:23pm

re: #13 Jay C

And Lindsay is saying this like it’s a BAD thing???

The adults in the room are all going, “Oh please, oh please, oh PLEASE”.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:24:01pm

Winning!! So much winning!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:24:18pm

re: #13 Jay C

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And Lindsay is saying this like it’s a BAD thing???

It’s going to be a very bad thing when we find out what Kompromat Putin has on L’il Lindsay!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:25:10pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:27:00pm

^VIX currently at 30.11. Now there are projections that it will jump to 35 on Monday indicating another big downturn in the Dow.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:27:04pm
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Jay C  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:32:10pm

re: #16 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The adults in the room are all going, “Oh please, oh please, oh PLEASE”.

Yeah, but the BIG problem is that those “adults” are all in a different room than the Congress…
The “President”, of course, being on an entirely different planet…

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:35:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:39:18pm

sad…
:D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:41:06pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:42:40pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, so much for that notion.

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:43:15pm

Stamina!

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:43:51pm

Ho ho uh oh

Emily Flake
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:44:06pm

Nope nope nope

Facebook Post

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Jay C  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:45:01pm

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

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Heh. AOC may have her flaws (like anyone in politics - usually more so), but the lady is right on here: I’m sure she’d rather work the streetcorners in the Bronx with a clipboard and a wireless debit-card-reader to pay her rent* than take money while government workers have to grub for bucks at Christmastime because of xenophobic Republican follies over “The Wall”…

*is she isn’t/hasn’t already

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:46:31pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Nope nope nope

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Yeah that would be a serious mindfuck every time I had to get up in the middle of the night to pee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:47:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:48:02pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

The only reason carpeting would ever be a viable option for a bathroom

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:49:01pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Nope nope nope

If that doesn’t keep you regular, nothing will.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:49:29pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Either that or a brand new tile floor.

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:53:34pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“…Architects Hernandez Silva Arquitectos say was designed with ‘concepts of transparency and the simplicity of materials’ in mind.”
huffingtonpost.com

I have a feeling they’re not telling the whole story about the design process.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:54:00pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Nope nope nope

Are all abandoned elevator shafts painted gold?

Asking for a king of Phrygia.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:55:21pm

re: #37 De Kolta Chair

Are all abandoned elevator shafts painted gold?

It appears there are lights inside it creating the illusion of that color.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:56:07pm

re: #34 De Kolta Chair

If that doesn’t keep you regular, nothing will.

“Welp, another guest didn’t make it to the bowl….”

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 2:57:08pm

“Off the record, Hernandez Silva Architectos say it was designed to scare the shit out of people while adhering to all appropriate safety standards.”

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bratwurst  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:06:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:08:17pm

Good point I heard recently. In days past being corrupt would be a stain on your life and your ability to thrive and move in civil society. But now that society is increasingly torn along civil and MAGA lines, there is less incentive to be honest when you know that MAGA-land will treat you as a hero for defying norms and standards. Thus, there are reasons to think Whitaker wouldn’t balk at doing unthinkable things to thwart the Mueller investigation because there will always be a paycheck for doing so.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:14:19pm
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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:17:14pm

I’d never seen a photo of Trump’s sister the judge until now.

Looks like Donnie in drag. Slightly better hair.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:23:30pm

re: #44 makeitstop

I’d never seen a photo of Trump’s sister the judge until now.

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Looks like Donnie in drag. Slightly better hair.

But she probably speaks in complete and coherent sentences.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:31:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:32:36pm
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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:33:43pm

re: #27 jaunte

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.@RepMattGaetz tells me “I can tell you after lunch with the president, I believe the president has the staying power to sustain a long government shutdown if necessary” stamina!

Duh

Everyone who “services” him is essential
Won’t affect him or his two scoops a bit

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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:35:36pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

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September 20, 2013:

FOX NEWS: If there is a shutdown, who should get fired?

What about 3 shutdowns in one year under a republican
House
Senate
White house
?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:37:24pm

re: #27 jaunte

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Stamina!

unless he caves earlier, the moron’s “long government shutdown” ends on January 3.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:39:57pm

One of my favorite peoples is Rosie Flores…

Rosie Flores, “This Cat’s In The Doghouse”

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calochortus  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:42:15pm

re: #44 makeitstop

I’d never seen a photo of Trump’s sister the judge until now.

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Looks like Donnie in drag. Slightly better hair.

Don’t be too harsh-it looks like she generously donated half her eyebrows to charity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:43:00pm

At this particular time, after three TrumpDowns in a year, I’m reminded of the old American phrase “We Don’t Negotiate With Terrorists” or, in this case, a mobster trying to pull off a shakedown.

Or to be more blunt, an abused person finally saying “go ahead and hit me again, this time I’ve called the cops and it ends NOW”.

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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:48:55pm

re: #27 jaunte

And I thought trump was supposed to be negotiating with democrats (as per Sen McConnell) and here he is having lunch with his big fans - RWNJs.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:50:24pm

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

“Welp, another guest didn’t make it to the bowl….”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:50:49pm
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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:52:21pm

“Nor do I believe I have the right to do so.”
If anyone believes Trump said that, I have a wall to sell them.

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thecommodore  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:53:20pm

re: #2 VegasGolfer

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Trump’s mandate was the weakest since 1876.

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thecommodore  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:54:54pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Trumpdown.”

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:54:58pm

re: #57 jaunte

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“Nor do I believe I have the right to do so.”
If anyone believes Trump said that, I have a wall to sell them.

This will not calm the markets - quite the opposite - when trump doesn’t like someone - he fires them - whether he has the right to do so is irrelevent

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:56:28pm

re: #59 thecommodore

“Trumpdown.”

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

thank you
*takes a bow*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:58:30pm

“TrumpDown! TrumpDown!”

Lights and sirens start to shut off, responders start to turn around.

Merry Feckin Xmas!

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Jay C  Dec 22, 2018 • 3:58:53pm

re: #58 thecommodore

Trump’s mandate was the weakest since 1876.

Even so, I’d still take Rutherford Hayes over the current incumbent: Hayes, at least, took his job seriously.

To the point where there is still a “Presidente Hayes” province in Paraguay - a testimonial to him having (?) brokered a peace agreement ending a bad civil war there. What is Trump likely to have named after him? A trash dump???

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:00:37pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:02:18pm

re: #57 jaunte

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“Nor do I believe I have the right to do so.”
If anyone believes Trump said that, I have a wall to sell them.

I certainly can believe that Mnuchin may have actually told him that, then Trump swore and complained that it’s ridiculous that he doesn’t have that power, and finally Mnuchin reported his own words as being uttered by Trump.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:02:49pm

I wonder if all the Club members will demand a refund?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:03:27pm

re: #66 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I wonder if all the Club members will demand a refund?

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NO REFUNDS! NO REFUNDS!!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:03:45pm

re: #66 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I wonder if all the Club members will demand a refund?

Poor little fucker has got to be MISERABLE in the DC winter right now. Serves him right.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:04:38pm

re: #57 jaunte

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“Nor do I believe I have the right to do so.”
If anyone believes Trump said that, I have a wall to sell them.

Ass covering.

Problem being he is too big an ass to cover over.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:05:38pm

I’m still worried the Dems are going to eventually capitulate to Trump on the wall.

I hope I’m wrong.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:07:23pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m still worried the Dems are going to eventually capitulate to Trump on the wall.

I hope I’m wrong.

That thought went through my head, as well. I hope that the midterm elections showed these guys that going along with Trump on anything is political suicide. If they cave, they lose their jobs. Period.

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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:10:40pm

re: #66 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I wonder if all the Club members will demand a refund?

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I wonder if the WH staff will demand extra pay. Having the idiot loose in the WH at the minute deserves danger money.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:11:13pm

Not blocked yet

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Belafon  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:12:09pm

My wife got us on a bus tour to see lights and chocolate places in Dallas. I will be dropping names throughout if I think they are good. The first is Kookie Haven. This was the sample they gave us:

Edit: a really good chocolates cake with chocolate icing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:16:53pm

re: #57 jaunte

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:19:44pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m still worried the Dems are going to eventually capitulate to Trump on the wall.

I hope I’m wrong.

Didn’t the Dems previously agree to a wall as part of comprehensive immigration reform including protection for DACA?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:21:11pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:22:54pm

re: #68 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Poor little fucker has got to be MISERABLE in the DC winter right now. Serves him right.

Just think how miserable he’s going to be when a pissed off Melon comes back from Mar-a-grifto.

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:24:31pm

re: #66 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I wonder if all the Club members will demand a refund?

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Perhaps he’s afraid to go because of how he’s crashed the stock market.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:25:33pm
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TedStriker  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:25:50pm

re: #79 Skip Intro

Perhaps he’s afraid to go because of how he’s crashed the stock market.

Why would it matter to him? Trump has no sense of shame or conscience.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:26:51pm

re: #78 Skip Intro

Just think how miserable he’s going to be when a pissed off Melon comes back from Mar-a-grifto.

Wait, so she got to skip town and he didn’t? Oh, that is so beyond rich, I don’t know if I’ll be able to stop laughing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:28:41pm

re: #82 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

yep, she and Barron left DC yesterday

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:29:04pm

re: #82 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wait, so she got to skip town and he didn’t? Oh, that is so beyond rich, I don’t know if I’ll be able to stop laughing.

Yup. She left. But it wasn’t for very long. lol

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Charmingly Persistent  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:34:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:34:54pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:34:54pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:38:56pm

re: #85 Charmingly Persistent

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I rather wonder who was more pissed when the announcement initially made the news: Mitch and Senate GOP leaders who’d been assured that their bill would be signed and the whole mattered concluded for the holidays…or Mike Pence for being sent out as the messenger for such and then having his boss undermine him by yanking Paul Ryan’s chain.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:39:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:41:44pm

re: #87 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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there’s been twitter chat about st maarten all day:

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:43:28pm

re: #81 TedStriker

Why would it matter to him? Trump has no sense of shame or conscience.

Because he’ll have to face them and he’s a coward.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:47:40pm

Just watched George Stevens’ The Greatest Story Ever Told on TCM, and as the end credits rolled realized it was actually Nicholas Ray’s King of Kings all along.

¯\_(⊙_ʖ⊙)_/¯

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makeitstop  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:49:44pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

there’s been twitter chat about st maarten all day:

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Whoever it is should pay full-price on the flight, fuel and maintenance.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:49:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:50:48pm

re: #91 Skip Intro

Because he’ll have to face them and he’s a coward.

shades of the days when he was shunned by NY society

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:52:11pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:53:30pm

It’s amazing how far some of these people have to fly to meet fellow anti-globalists.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:54:13pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

I saw a photo somewhere of someone who built a Panzer out of snow. These massive snow sculptures are awesome.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:55:54pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:56:12pm

re: #97 Barefoot Grin

It’s amazing how far some of these people have to fly to meet fellow anti-globalists.

It’s so they don’t get yelled at in restaurants.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:58:33pm

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Dave In Austin  Dec 22, 2018 • 4:59:48pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:00:21pm

re: #102 Dave In Austin

What the bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:01:10pm

re: #99 Patricia Kayden

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“Hmm, the market is jumpy because of my trade war, my tax policies, and my shutdown. How do I get them booming again? I know, I’ll fire the head of the Fed so I can appoint yet another crony who will do my bidding! How can that ever go wrong?!”

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Dave In Austin  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:01:32pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:01:49pm

re: #103 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people.

Do you have a few hours to spare? Because a list this long is gonna take awhile.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:03:24pm

re: #105 Dave In Austin

Do you ever get tired of being wrong, dumbass?

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:03:30pm

re: #105 Dave In Austin

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Dim Jim’s trying to portray acceptance to Harvard as though Hogg couldn’t find anything better than the local community college.

I’d say his SMOTI title remains secure.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:03:48pm

re: #100 stpaulbear

It’s so they don’t get yelled at in restaurants.

LOL!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:04:39pm

re: #105 Dave In Austin

He’s a whole lot smarter than you, Jimmy. I can tell you that much. But keep rooting against a kid whose only “crime” is speaking out against gun violence.

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can't think of a decent username  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:11:52pm

re: #105 Dave In Austin

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Does anyone actually believe that there are 12 schools out there that wouldn’t be ecstatic to have David Hogg as a student?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:12:16pm

hahahaha

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:13:11pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaha

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Sound less like the defiant roar of a powerful man…and more like the whine of an angsty teenager not getting his way.

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gwangung  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:15:34pm

re: #111 can’t think of a decent username

Does anyone actually believe that there are 12 schools out there who wouldn’t be ecstatic to have David Hogg as a student?

Proof positive that a senior year push can work.

(Seriously. His work as an advocate is a big damn plus for every single Ivy and Ivy League wanna be school and every alum knows that…and would applaud his acceptance into their school).

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mmmirele  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:17:11pm

OK, yeah, I work for an evil too big to fail bank, but this is a serious question.

Do you think there’d be a market meltdown if Trump fired the Fed Chair? Trump’s Fed Chair was sworn in earlier this year. And, to give people an idea of the tenure of Fed Chairs, there have been 16 total (including Powell) since 1914.

Long-term Fed Chairs:
1934-1948: Marriner Eccles
1951-1970: William Martin
1987-2006: Alan Greenspan

en.wikipedia.org

I’m thinking the markets would go haywire if Trump canned the Fed Chair.

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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:22:07pm

re: #66 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I wonder if all the Club members will demand a refund?

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I will not be going to Florida because of the Shutdown - Staying in the White House

That is not why he’s not going

It’s optics and image. Shutdowns got nothing to do with it

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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:23:07pm

re: #72 fern01

I wonder if the WH staff will demand extra pay. Having the idiot loose in the WH at the minute deserves danger money.

Whose money?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:23:46pm

re: #103 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people.

What’s wrong with these people is that they’ve been continually brainwashed over the past 40 years by the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:24:55pm

re: #114 gwangung

Proof positive that a senior year push can work.

(Seriously. His work as an advocate is a big damn plus for every single Ivy and Ivy League wanna be school and every alum knows that…and would applaud his acceptance into their school).

And David’s being dragged for his SAT score.
While a 1270 is nothing to sneeze, SAT scores are not the be-all and end-all.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:26:39pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:26:45pm

re: #115 mmmirele

OK, yeah, I work for an evil too big to fail bank, but this is a serious question.

Do you think there’d be a market meltdown if Trump fired the Fed Chair? Trump’s Fed Chair was sworn in earlier this year. And, to give people an idea of the tenure of Fed Chairs, there have been 16 total (including Powell) since 1914.

Long-term Fed Chairs:
1934-1948: Marriner Eccles
1951-1970: William Martin
1987-2006: Alan Greenspan

en.wikipedia.org

I’m thinking the markets would go haywire if Trump canned the Fed Chair.

Apparently, he can only fire the Chair for cause. So would a policy dispute be considered sufficient cause? Trump would probably announce the firing on Twitter without giving any advance notice. Or maybe Trump would Tweet that Powell resigned. What if the chair refused to leave, claiming the firing/resignation was illegal? I am just wondering how this could even be carried out.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:26:45pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaha

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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:31:34pm

re: #110 Patricia Kayden

He’s a whole lot smarter than you, Jimmy. I can tell you that much. But keep rooting against a kid whose only “crime” is speaking out against gun violence.

after personally being in a school shooting

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:32:32pm

They didn’t pay my favorite waitress at Langer’s any royalties for using her picture!

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:32:43pm
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:34:35pm

BTW, Jim went to a small college with a 95% acceptance rate. I’m shocked…that he actually went to college.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:36:16pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

And David’s being dragged for his SAT score.
While a 1270 is nothing to sneeze, SAT scores are not the be-all and end-all.

David’s SAT score is higher than that of Bush 43 and Bush was accepted by Yale as a legacy. So why can’t David be accepted in Harvard, based on his own activities?

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:36:31pm

re: #126 Ace-o-aces

Surprising that Hoft can use the phrase “less than stellar” about someone else without lightning striking him.

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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:37:48pm

re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter

I certainly can believe that Mnuchin may have actually told him that, then Trump swore and complained that it’s ridiculous that he doesn’t have that power, and finally Mnuchin reported his own words as being uttered by Trump.

Why have this conversation and tell it to the public if no one was thinking about it?

Who tells the public about a conversation no one had?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:38:37pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

And David’s being dragged for his SAT score.
While a 1270 is nothing to sneeze, SAT scores are not the be-all and end-all.

I got a feeling that SMOTI actually had a negative SAT score…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:39:49pm

re: #130 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got a feeling that SMOTI actually had a negative SAT score…

“What… how is this even possible?”

“I don’t know, but you should be proud of yourself for accomplishing it.”

“Thanks, man. I hereby declare myself the Smartest Man on the Internet!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:41:16pm

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

David’s SAT score is higher than that of Bush 43 and Bush was accepted by Yale as a legacy. So why can’t David be accepted in Harvard, based on his own activities?

A 1270 SAT score is pretty decent. In addition to other leadership-related activities (such as, say, leading a freaking REVOLT against the gun industry), I could well believe that would gain entrance to the Ivy League.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:42:14pm

I got a feeling that SMOTI’s SAT score was lower that Wolf’s on Jeopardy!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:42:58pm

re: #133 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got a feeling that SMOTI’s SAT score was lower that Wolf’s on Jeopardy!

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I will never not laugh at that image. Wolf Blitzer, Capital Dumbass.

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mmmirele  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:43:14pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

And David’s being dragged for his SAT score.
While a 1270 is nothing to sneeze, SAT scores are not the be-all and end-all.

I managed to get into college (1978) without an SAT score. That’s because I went to junior college first, where they required an ACT and that was only for placement in math and English classes. I’m pretty sure I would have done quite badly on the SAT had I taken it, with half of it being math in those days. I made a perfect 36 on the science portion of the ACT and got a 12 (out of 36) on the math portion.

Seriously, your score on the SAT isn’t going to determine where you go in life. *rolls eyes*

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:44:09pm

re: #129 dangerman

Why have this conversation and tell it to the public if no one was thinking about it?

Who tells the public about a conversation no one had?

I suspect that many Presidents have ranted about particular policies and then went on with their business after they finished venting. Maybe that was true of Trump and he never suspected that someone would leak this conversation, so Mnuchin tried to do damage control.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:44:10pm

re: #103 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people.

Oldracistwhitefartitist

I think they should be quarantined.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:46:12pm

For reference, I scored a 1390 on my SAT’s and a 32/36 overall on my ACT’s, and I gained acceptance to every school to which I applied (though as an aspiring software developer, I did not aim so high as the Ivy League). A 1270 SAT score isn’t that much worse than my own that, combined with some good extracurricular participation, an Ivy league school would hesitate to accept an aspiring student.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:46:17pm

Well, my SAT score was 670 on English and 650 on Math.

Achievement scores were 770 on American History, 690 on Biology and 680 on English.

Got a National Merit Honor on the American History part.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:46:54pm

re: #108 Targetpractice

Dim Jim’s trying to portray acceptance to Harvard as though Hogg couldn’t find anything better than the local community college.

I’d say his SMOTI title remains secure.

Either that, or he is going to equate Harvard with being open to inviting progressives and liberals without good grades to advance the leftist movement.

Like they did with Obama.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:47:52pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

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Reminds me of when McDonald’s tried to show it was entirely plausible to have a comfortable living off the minimum wage with a model budget, only for it to assume you worked two jobs and could go without basic living expenses like clothing or a car.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:48:08pm
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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:48:09pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

So does he expel a blizzard of bullshit?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:48:15pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

Reminds me of when McDonald’s tried to show it was entirely plausible to have a comfortable living off the minimum wage with a model budget, only for it to assume you worked two jobs and could go without basic living expenses like clothing or a car.

I remember that. Man, that was all kinds of stupid.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:49:00pm

re: #116 dangerman

That is not why he’s not going

It’s optics and image. Shutdowns got nothing to do with it

One thing for sure…he is going to be real festive this holiday!

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:49:49pm

re: #142 wrenchwench

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It’s nice in theory, but wingnuts hate such because A) they like the warm fuzzies they get when they drop a $5 in the collection plate on Sunday and B) hate with a passion any program that would provide benefits to “those people.”

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:50:36pm

re: #146 Targetpractice

It’s nice in theory, but wingnuts hate such because A) they like the warm fuzzies they get when they drop a $5 in the collection plate on Sunday and B) hate with a passion any program that would provide benefits to “those people.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:50:44pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

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Hmmmm, do they mean those “donations” are really Student Loan payments?

Oh and good luck with finding an apartment in Los Angeles for $825. You’d need to really stick a “1” in front of that rent amount to even try to get an unfurnished single!

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:51:17pm

re: #135 mmmirele

Never took the SAT. Had really solid ACT scores and the school I went to accepted ACT, so yeah.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:52:42pm

Now I’m wishing I had at least applied to MIT. I would have liked to at least known that I was up to their standards. Oh well. I’m still the best there is, and my career will leave no doubt of that.

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Belafon  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:52:59pm

re: #142 wrenchwench

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The only real problem is the administration.

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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:53:09pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

Reminds me of when McDonald’s tried to show it was entirely plausible to have a comfortable living off the minimum wage with a model budget, only for it to assume you worked two jobs and could go without basic living expenses like clothing or a car.

Or any unplanned event like a car repair, toothache or actual medical emergency

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:54:07pm

re: #129 dangerman

Why have this conversation and tell it to the public if no one was thinking about it?

Who tells the public about a conversation no one had?

Maybe a guy that understands the implications of what Trump is trying to do to the Fed chairman and is acting on his own to try to put out a fire he knows could cost him money.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:55:35pm

Wingnuts love the whole “private charity will help the needy!” bit because they view “private charity” as synonymous with “local churches.” Which is why they love charities right up until those charities take a position that is contrary to their own beliefs, at which time they want the charity investigated, it’s non-profit status revoked, and its leadership looked into for possible fraud/embezzlement charges.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:57:02pm

I never knew what the SAT was until I took the PSAT, and got a good score. People started saying, ‘You’re going to college.’ I said, ‘College? What’s that?’ Meanwhile, my older brother decided in third grade that he was going to go to Cal Tech. And he did*.

My mom confessed at some point to having been guilty of greater expectations for the boys.

*ETA: ,a few years later.

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:58:52pm
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gwangung  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:59:29pm

re: #132 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A 1270 SAT score is pretty decent. In addition to other leadership-related activities (such as, say, leading a freaking REVOLT against the gun industry), I could well believe that would gain entrance to the Ivy League.

About 95% of Ivy alums would be envious of that accomplishment.

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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 5:59:53pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

Wingnuts love the whole “private charity will help the needy!” bit because they view “private charity” as synonymous with “local churches.” Which is why they love charities right up until those charities take a position that is contrary to their own beliefs, at which time they want the charity investigated, it’s non-profit status revoked, and its leadership looked into for possible fraud/embezzlement charges.

Their idea of Private charity means they can serve only who they want

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:00:26pm

omg

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:00:52pm

re: #156 jaunte

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Donny spent the ‘16 making such a big deal about the need to deal with ISIS, promised to have his generals draw up a plan in 90 days, now acts as though the man who would have been key to such was “just some guy” who he never even met.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:01:55pm

re: #77 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

@cnnbrk
At least 20 people are dead and 165 injured after a tsunami hit coastal areas in Indonesia, an official says

Death toll has double, and injured almost quadrupled

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:02:04pm

re: #158 dangerman

Their idea of Private charity means they can serve only who they want

Prexactly. They love their local church and they love the charities that they donate to. Why? Because they expect those folks will ensure their money only goes to people they like and causes they support. Hence why they have government programs, because that money has to go out (in theory) to anybody who asks, which means “those people” have access.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:02:16pm

Nope. I’ll toss a slip of paper in your kettle that says “You said Mexico would pay for it, asshole!”

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dangerman  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:02:20pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg

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The president is a ass

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:03:03pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg

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Aw Donny, don’t feel bad. ISIS loves you right now, they’re even gonna be hacking off heads in your name!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:04:42pm

Nope.

Go ask the Mercer’s to finance your fucking wall!

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:05:00pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:05:52pm

re: #167 jaunte

Why don’t we ask the Japanese what they want? Oh, wait - they’re like Mongo, they’re just pawns in the game of life global thermonuclear politics.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:05:55pm

Sometimes, I just really like a nic.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:06:36pm

re: #167 jaunte

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“Why do we need troops in Japan anyway? It costs us money to have troops there, money that could be going to the big, beautiful wall! If the Japanese want us to remain, they gotta pay us! Otherwise, I say we bring those troops home!”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:10:42pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:10:49pm

re: #167 jaunte

We won’t be surprised when Fearless Feeder tweets that he’s pulling troops out of Japan.

The only question will be what country is next on Master Vlad’s list!

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:12:18pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

Crazy! Indeed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:12:25pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:12:31pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is beyond pathetic, but he’s building a bulletproof insanity defense.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:12:43pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

Wingnuts love the whole “private charity will help the needy!” bit because they view “private charity” as synonymous with “local churches.” Which is why they love charities right up until those charities take a position that is contrary to their own beliefs, at which time they want the charity investigated, it’s non-profit status revoked, and its leadership looked into for possible fraud/embezzlement charges.

Private charity should pay for the wall as well then since it’s available to pay for the needy. Why not? That GoFundMe (scam) is doing pretty well.

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:13:12pm

Getting that old pre-crash 1929 vibe.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:13:22pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

The dementia is setting in.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:14:13pm

re: #178 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The dementia is setting in.

Or is he trying to fake dementia to get off the hook?

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:14:34pm

re: #105 Dave In Austin

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I was just reading all the well wishes for him on Free Republic. They’re just so full of the Christmas Spirit over there.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:14:57pm

re: #27 jaunte

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Stamina!

Impeachment and Removal from Office would make quick work of any talk of “staying Power”.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:15:25pm

re: #125 Ace-o-aces

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OMFG!

Even before that meeting, Christie had made sure that Trump knew the protocol for his discussions with foreign leaders. The transition team had prepared a document to let him know how these were meant to go. The first few calls were easy - the very first was always with the prime minister of Great Britain - but two dozen calls in you were talking to some kleptocrat and tiptoeing around sensitive security issues. Before any of the calls could be made, however, the president of Egypt called in to the switchboard at Trump Tower and somehow got the operator to put him straight through to Trump. “Trump was like … I love the Bangles! You know that song Walk Like an Egyptian?” recalled one of his advisers on the scene.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:15:51pm

Hugh Hewitt is doing that gaslighting thing after millions watched Trump own The Shutdown on live TV.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:17:22pm

And, for those that wish to keep a copy

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:18:13pm

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

He’s copying Sean Spicer’s “period”.

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:18:20pm

The orange nightmare needs a padded fucking cell.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:18:44pm
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bratwurst  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:19:51pm

Speaking of Putin, I just finished Red Notice last night and barely slept a wink.

It’s not that I am shocked that people are being tortured to death for defying Putin and his friends…but having the name and face of Sergei Magnitsky (born in my ancestral home town of Odessa) attached to this kind of thing has been haunting me.

The book has been around for a while, but if you want a page-turning thriller that is also nonfiction, I recommend it.

In addition to being sad about what happened to Magnitsky, I am horrified that a large swathe of today’s GOP desires a nation and a legal system more like Russia.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:20:02pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:20:42pm

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

Hugh Hewitt is doing that gaslighting thing after millions watched Trump own The Shutdown on live TV.

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Well, we now know what the theme of tomorrow’s Press the Meat will be: “THIS SHUTDOWN IS SCHUMER’S BECAUSE HIS BASE DON’T WANT A WALL!!!”

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:21:47pm

re: #182 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OMFG!

Before any of the calls could be made, however, the president of Egypt called in to the switchboard at Trump Tower and somehow got the operator to put him straight through to Trump. “Trump was like … I love the Bangles! You know that song Walk Like an Egyptian?” recalled one of his advisers on the scene

This really happened in the current actual universe? The one I live in?

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:22:07pm

By the way, let’s take a sec to snicker at how, after all the laughing by wingnuts at Schumer for having no backbone, they’re now raging at him for showing the spine to refuse to allow even $.01 of wall funding. All when they confidently predicted he’d give in to avoid a shutdown.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:24:34pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:25:45pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

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Guess he had a Trump Tower taco bowl for lunch, as he’s having a particularly difficult shit session tonight.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:25:50pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg

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You talk too much and it’s all bullshit.
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:26:04pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

Jesus fuck. Somebody take that asshole’s phone away already.

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:27:00pm

re: #191 wrenchwench

JFC

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Charles Johnson  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:27:00pm
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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:27:38pm

Trump’s Adverb-of-the-Week.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:28:28pm

another one form FB

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:28:45pm

*snif*

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:29:12pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

OIC. That’s where he got the five dollar word.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:30:20pm

re: #191 wrenchwench

This really happened in the current actual universe? The one I live in?

Are you really surprised?

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:31:13pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:32:45pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

By the way, let’s take a sec to snicker at how, after all the laughing by wingnuts at Schumer for having no backbone, they’re now raging at him for showing the spine to refuse to allow even $.01 of wall funding. All when they confidently predicted he’d give in to avoid a shutdown.

It wasn’t just wingnuts that thought Schumer had no backbone.

There have been many on the left that thought it too.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:32:49pm

Does it really have to be noted that Donny is now basically using the same reason for firing these people (Kelly & Mattis) that he pointed to as the reason for hiring them in the first place, namely that they had said things that Obama didn’t like?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:33:28pm

re: #191 wrenchwench

This really happened in the current actual universe? The one I live in?

You have to remember that, with the election of Trump, we now live in the Star Trek Mirror Universe.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:33:42pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

It wasn’t just wingnuts that thought Schumer had no backbone.

There have been many on the left that thought it too.

True, when the rumor went around that he was prepared to trade a bunch of Trump judicial appointees for a CR, the howls from moonbats was deafening.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:34:08pm

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

You have to remember that, with the election of Trump, we now live in the Star Trek Mirror Universe.

Hey now, I’ve always had this goatee.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:34:46pm

re: #172 Joe Bacon 🌹

We won’t be surprised when Fearless Feeder tweets that he’s pulling troops out of Japan.

The only question will be what country is next on Master Vlad’s list!

Weird. Abe gave him a gold driver. Should have been enough to cement relations….

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Skip Intro  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:35:06pm

re: #196 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus fuck. Somebody take that asshole’s phone away already.

Take HIM away. Tonight.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:35:52pm

re: #210 Barefoot Grin

Weird. Abe gave him a gold driver. Should have been enough to cement relations….

But Vlad the P yanked on Orange Foolius’s chain!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:36:12pm

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

You have to remember that, with the election of Trump, we now live in the Star Trek Mirror Universe.

STAR TREK ENTERPRISE ‘In a Mirror, Darkly’ Opening Titles (HQ)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:37:11pm

re: #213 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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I may be alone in this, but I actually enjoyed Enterprise as a series.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:37:23pm

re: #213 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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I enjoyed that episode too!!

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:41:50pm

re: #214 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I like it too. I think Deep Space Nine is the absolute worst Star Trek. The original is my thing, but there are some damn good Next Generation epis. Just not a fan of the women characters on Next Gen. Picard is so good though. He makes the series way better.

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jaunte  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:42:02pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:42:03pm

re: #214 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I may be alone in this, but I actually enjoyed Enterprise as a series.

I did too. They nearly lost me with their third season—the war with the Xindi was death—but the fourth season with those two and three-parters was some of the best Trek ever.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:43:51pm

re: #214 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I may be alone in this, but I actually enjoyed Enterprise as a series.

You’re not alone. I also liked it, though I thought it was still rough around the edges even by season three. The new Discovery series is better, though I have yet to really like any of its characters.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:44:20pm

re: #217 jaunte

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They don’t talk about it for the simple reason that “border security” is one of the few things they have left as a campaign issue to run upon. Most everything else is either social policy that is increasingly draconian or economic policy that really only ever gives the wonks wood. They’re set to go into 2020 with nothing else to run on besides “ZOMG! ILLEGALS!!!”

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TedStriker  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:46:17pm

re: #216 plansbandc

I like it too. I think Deep Space Nine is the absolute worst Star Trek. The original is my thing, but there are some damn good Next Generation epis. Just not a fan of the women characters on Next Gen. Picard is so good though. He makes the series way better.

YOU SHUT YOUR FILTHY MOUTH!!!

/nerdrage

(Seriously, I hold the opposite view as you: DS9 is, IMO, one of the strongest Trek series [largely on the backs of its outstanding cast and its writers (especially Ronald Moore)] and one that I like a lot, especially the latter half of its run.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:47:24pm

re: #219 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

You’re not alone. I also liked it, though I thought it was still rough around the edges even by season three. The new Discovery series is better, though I have yet to really like any of its characters.

I enjoyed Voyager. I would really like to watch Discovery but I’m not paying extra for this premium station. My cable costs are too high as it is. We did view the series in Mexico this summer on someone else’s Netflix account.

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Belafon  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:48:25pm

re: #217 jaunte

Because it’s not about illegals, it’s about removing anyone not white. It ties into his policy of ending asylum of Vietnamese, Middle Eaterners, and others.

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:48:30pm

re: #221 TedStriker

That’s so funny. I really really don’t like it. But I like you. :D

I will give it this. When Worf came on board, it improved, but man. I just do not like it.

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:48:48pm

I’ve been pointing out that border crossings are at a multiyear low - a trend starting under GWB and continuing under Obama.

The number of undocumented persons is likewise at a multidecade low - a trend starting under GWB and continuing under Obama.

Trump created a crisis to satisfy his white nationalist base. This is value signaling at its base. He’s signaling to the bigots that he’s doing what he can to stop nonwhites from coming in.

After all, we’ve seen Ryan and others croon about how they wouldn’t mind Irish coming over - or other Europeans, but not nonwhites, especially not nonwhites seeking asylum.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:49:55pm

re: #221 TedStriker

YOU SHUT YOUR FILTHY MOUTH!!!

/nerdrage

(Seriously, I hold the opposite view: DS9 is, IMO, one of the strongest Trek series and one that I like a lot, especially the latter half of its run.)

Voyager was the clinker for me. The number of deus ex machina plot twists just got too exhausting. But the ongoing struggles of Seven of Nine as she learned to be a human again were well done.

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bratwurst  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:51:00pm

re: #216 plansbandc

Just not a fan of the women characters on Next Gen.

I think you left off “except for Counselor Troi” there. ;)

She also happens to be a delightful Twitter follow.

Not that I have been in love with her for 30+ years or anything!

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:52:10pm

re: #210 Barefoot Grin

Weird. Abe gave him a gold driver. Should have been enough to cement relations….

Yes, but he’s an ally. That means he takes advantage of us.

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CarolJ  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:52:46pm

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

Also I suspect a lot of top schools have the flexibility to admit for “potential”. Let’s say Hogg was an older student who had been in the Army, and won the Congressional Medal of Honor. Would his 1300 SAT scores really matter in face of his courage and leadership? Also there are a lot of legacies who really should go to community college but get let in because their folks have 7 digit incomes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:52:49pm

re: #227 bratwurst

I think you left off “except for Counselor Troi” there. ;)

She also happens to be a delightful Twitter follow.

Not that I have been in love with her for 30+ years or anything!

I was 15 feet away from Marina Sirtis at the last comic-con in Minneapolis. Oh my God, I have never fanboi’d so hard. I love her.

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:53:14pm

re: #227 bratwurst

Well, she is beautiful. And I like her way better than Beverly, so… But why did she get to wear a different uni than everyone else. Never mind, I know. :D

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:53:38pm

re: #225 lawhawk

I’ve been pointing out that border crossings are at a multiyear low - a trend starting under GWB and continuing under Obama.

The number of undocumented persons is likewise at a multidecade low - a trend starting under GWB and continuing under Obama.

Trump created a crisis to satisfy his white nationalist base. This is value signaling at its base. He’s signaling to the bigots that he’s doing what he can to stop nonwhites from coming in.

After all, we’ve seen Ryan and others croon about how they wouldn’t mind Irish coming over - or other Europeans, but not nonwhites, especially not nonwhites seeking asylum.

“Border security” and “immigration reform” have become synonymous with “racial purity” in the eyes of Donny’s (and the GOP’s) base because they’re watching America’s old white majority dissolve before their very eyes. They have nightmares of their grandkids one day speaking Spanish as part of everyday life or their great-grandkids looking anything but white and waking up in screaming fits. They expected a future that was every bit as white as the images in comic books and scifi movies, but now they live in constant fear of a brown planet.

A black president was really the capper on all that, it was their realization that the days of old white guys being in charge were numbered. And it scares the ever-loving fuck out of them.

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:54:20pm

I think the main problem is I’m just a Whovian. I like me some Star Trek, but my heart is with Who.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:55:35pm

re: #222 Hecuba’s daughter

I enjoyed Voyager. I would really like to watch Discovery but I’m not paying extra for this premium station. My cable costs are too high as it is. We did view the series in Mexico this summer on someone else’s Netflix account.

Discovery occupies its own little Star Trek pocket universe, because of complex copyright and ownership rights, but the writers have done well within those constraints. Michelle Yeoh is clearly loving being a tough-as-nails captain and Mirror Universe baddie, and the acting has generally been very good. For some reason, though, I don’t find its characters especially appealing, in the way that I had with previous ST series.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:56:22pm

re: #233 plansbandc

I think the main problem is I’m just a Whovian. I like me some Star Trek, but my heart is with Who.

The reason I was 15 feet away from Marina instead of right next to her? I was in line to take a photo with Peter Capaldi, the 12th Doctor. Yeah. I was in line with both of them. I got to hear her swear at the rest of us nerds because we were in line to see the Doctor instead of her. I would have done both if I could, I swear! I’m sorry, Marina!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:56:43pm
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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:57:35pm

re: #235 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh wow. You totally get me. :D :D

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:58:14pm

re: #233 plansbandc

I think the main problem is I’m just a Whovian. I like me some Star Trek, but my heart is with Who.

I was 10 years old when Star Trek premiered and we had just gotten a color TV set the day before. That fall of 1966 was a magic time watching Star Trek, Time Tunnel, Lost In Space, Batman, Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, The Invaders, Man and Girl from U.N.C.L.E, Mission: Impossible, Green Hornet, The Prisoner, The Saint and The Avengers. One by one those series were gone and TV wasn’t the same, it lost all magic for me.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:58:38pm

re: #227 bratwurst

I think you left off “except for Counselor Troi” there. ;)

She also happens to be a delightful Twitter follow.

Not that I have been in love with her for 30+ years or anything!

Not sure if you knew, but Marina had a brief appearance in the Titans series, playing the mom of Dove.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:59:15pm

re: #237 plansbandc

Oh wow. You totally get me. :D :D

When Mrs. Fish and I were in line, Nichelle Nichols entered the building. You could hear a pin drop when the original fucking Lieutenant Uhura arrived. Mrs. Fish was in awe. I almost fell over.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 6:59:16pm

re: #236 Patricia Kayden

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That ass will sing a different tune if she doesn’t get her Social Security check!

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:01:21pm

To me, the best Treks were TNG and DS9, the former because it brought the spirit of the original while giving a new fresh feel to scifi, while the former challenged a lot of the conventions that Gene had placed upon the Trek universe and gave us a serialized format that meant actions actually mattered.

Voyager? It tried too much to be TNG and that was its biggest flaw, a series that would have benefited greatly from showing character evolution and consequences of actions instead falling back on “the status quo rules all.” Enterprise was even worse because it started off with a big promise of being a prequel that filled in a lot of the gaps and instead fell into the same writing rut of “TNG with different clothing.” Manny Coto taking over in the fourth season really helped it start living up to the promise, but by that point it was too late.

And Discovery? It’s Trek in the sense that the broad strokes may survive, but the details are so out of place with what we’ve come to expect that it’s as if Paramount followed Disney’s lead in declaring all the came before as totally irrelevant to the direction they want to go.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:01:35pm

re: #238 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was 10 years old when Star Trek premiered and we had just gotten a color TV set the day before. That fall of 1966 was a magic time watching Star Trek, Time Tunnel, Lost In Space, Batman, Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, The Invaders, Man and Girl from U.N.C.L.E, Mission: Impossible, Green Hornet, The Prisoner, The Saint and The Avengers. One by one those series were gone and TV wasn’t the same, it lost all magic for me.

Updinged as we are brothers from other mothers. I watched those same shows.

Emma Peel was the highlight.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:02:06pm

re: #236 Patricia Kayden

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What in the utter pluperfect fuck is she rattling on about? Does she think “paper pushers” are a bunch of GUATEMALAN ILLEAGALS!!!!! That they have no children, they don’t buy food, gas, shop at Target & Walmart, spend money at restaurants, movies & Mom & Pop small businesses?

THESE ARE AMERICANS SUPPORTING THEIR FAMILIES.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

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TedStriker  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:02:12pm

re: #231 plansbandc

Well, she is beautiful. And I like her way better than Beverly, so… But why did she get to wear a different uni than everyone else. Never mind, I know. :D

A “problem” that Captain Jellico (Ronnie Cox) quickly solved in “Chain of Command” (you know, the episode where Picard gets captured by the Cardassians and screams at his captors, ‘There are four lights!”).

It only took six seasons to do it though…

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:02:34pm

re: #238 Joe Bacon 🌹

Totally. I fucking LOVED Batman, but my parents wouldn’t let me watch it. Lots of things on your list got the parental ban.

But my brother watched Doctor Who and Star Trek, so I watched both with him.

Parents put the ban hammer on The Wild Wild West too. Damn it sucked.

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:02:55pm

The markets are going to pitch a fit on Monday with all the news swirling around Trump looking at trying to fire Powell at the Federal Reserve.

Powell is a guy Trump picked instead of reupping Yellen as every other president typically does when they inherit the Fed Chair. Trump sought out his own guy, and it turns out that Powell is doing what the Fed always does - not what Trump wants.

It’s possible that Trump’s pissed because all of his business loans are now even more costly because of the interest rate hike, and it could be as simple as that, but Trump really doesn’t get how any of this works, or how it will play with the rest of the world.

They’ll see Trump as an arsonist who’ll be setting the markets aflame.

The news coming out about how they’re trying to calm the markets is only further proof that Trump was indeed trying to fire Powell.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:03:35pm

re: #236 Patricia Kayden

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Like I said last night, the GOP is doing everything they did in 2013 to totally lose this shutdown, including downplaying the personal costs to hundreds of thousands of Americans. What they totally fail to get is that those costs are not isolated, when those workers can’t pay rent or buy gas because there’s no paycheck, the consequences are going to grow.

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:03:42pm

re: #232 Targetpractice

[…]
They expected a future that was every bit as white as the images in comic books and scifi movies, but now they live in constant fear of a brown planet.

A black president was really the capper on all that, it was their realization that the days of old white guys being in charge were numbered. And it scares the ever-loving fuck out of them.

Trump is Obama backlash.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:04:43pm

re: #246 plansbandc

Totally. I fucking LOVED Batman, but my parents wouldn’t let me watch it. Lots of things on your list got the parental ban.

But my brother watched Doctor Who and Star Trek, so I watched both with him.

Parents put the ban hammer on The Wild Wild West too. Damn it sucked.

My dad usually watched the same shows I did, unless he was busy with something else. Mom was not really into TV much, as her hearing loss made it hard for her to catch what the actors were saying.

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:05:01pm

Oh yes, The Avengers RULED! Emma Peel. What a goddess.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:05:22pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:05:30pm

re: #231 plansbandc

Well, she is beautiful. And I like her way better than Beverly, so… But why did she get to wear a different uni than everyone else. Never mind, I know. :D

Ronny Cox (Capt. Jellico) became the most hated man in America for making her wear a standard uniform on the bridge…

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steve_davis  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:06:13pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah that would be a serious mindfuck every time I had to get up in the middle of the night to pee.

especially for the folks on the lower floor with the bathroom with the glass ceiling looking up into an abandoned elevator shaft.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:06:52pm

re: #243 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Updinged as we are brothers from other mothers. I watched those same shows.

Emma Peel was the highlight.

Before 1966 there were seven shows I loved—Cheyenne, I’d root for him in every episode and yell at the TV every time Cheyenne got beaten up or ripped off. My Favorite Martian because Ray Walston made me laugh a lot, My Living Doll—Julie Newmar was my first crush, I wanted a Rhoda the Robot of my very own. One Step Beyond scared me because it was based on real events. Twilight Zone gave me scares every now and then, Boris Karloff’s Thriller chilled me to the point that I took a flashlight to bed and The Outer Limits really scared me with the monsters and the music score that hyped up the fear factor.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:08:04pm

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

What in the utter pluperfect fuck is she rattling on about? Does she think “paper pushers” are a bunch of GUATEMALAN ILLEAGALS!!!!! That they have no children, they don’t buy food, gas, shop at Target & Walmart, spend money at restaurants, movies & Mom & Pop small businesses?

THESE ARE AMERICANS SUPPORTING THEIR FAMILIES.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

She’s doing the classic Republican fuck-up: She’s assuming her base of know-nothing dirt farmers who see government employees as gold-brickers are the rule rather than the exception, when in reality they’re a shrinking minority of the voter base (as the midterms proved).

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:08:18pm

re: #247 lawhawk

The markets are going to pitch a fit on Monday with all the news swirling around Trump looking at trying to fire Powell at the Federal Reserve.

Powell is a guy Trump picked instead of reupping Yellen as every other president typically does when they inherit the Fed Chair. Trump sought out his own guy, and it turns out that Powell is doing what the Fed always does - not what Trump wants.

It’s possible that Trump’s pissed because all of his business loans are now even more costly because of the interest rate hike, and it could be as simple as that, but Trump really doesn’t get how any of this works, or how it will play with the rest of the world.

They’ll see Trump as an arsonist who’ll be setting the markets aflame.

The news coming out about how they’re trying to calm the markets is only further proof that Trump was indeed trying to fire Powell.

The markets and overall global financial picture were already on shaky ground before Trump started his trade wars and abandonment of various trade agreements. It’s a giant game of Tenga, with Trump determined to make the entire structure collapse.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:09:02pm

re: #246 plansbandc

Totally. I fucking LOVED Batman, but my parents wouldn’t let me watch it. Lots of things on your list got the parental ban.

But my brother watched Doctor Who and Star Trek, so I watched both with him.

Parents put the ban hammer on The Wild Wild West too. Damn it sucked.

For some reason, Mom wouldn’t let me watch Wild Wild West and she despised Batman. She had control of the TV…

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steve_davis  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:09:47pm

re: #44 makeitstop

I’d never seen a photo of Trump’s sister the judge until now.

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Looks like Donnie in drag. Slightly better hair.

Seriously, Maryanne Barry? Shouldn’t she be in Washington in a hotel room with a crack pipe?

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TedStriker  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:10:16pm

re: #253 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ronny Cox (Capt. Jellico) became the most hated man in America for making her wear a standard uniform on the bridge…

But, then Troi actually got to take her command officer’s test afterwards.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:10:49pm

re: #238 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was 10 years old when Star Trek premiered and we had just gotten a color TV set the day before. That fall of 1966 was a magic time watching Star Trek, Time Tunnel, Lost In Space, Batman, Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, The Invaders, Man and Girl from U.N.C.L.E, Mission: Impossible, Green Hornet, The Prisoner, The Saint and The Avengers. One by one those series were gone and TV wasn’t the same, it lost all magic for me.

I did watch Star Trek, Time Tunnel, The Prisoner, and The Avengers back in the 1960’s. Later on, it was Dr. Who, Babylon Five, Blake’s 7, all the Star Trek spinoffs, Quantum Leap, and the 1983 V.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:11:31pm

re: #260 TedStriker

But, then Troi actually got to take her command officer’s test afterwards.

Deanna Troi is the woman that every nerd my age wishes he could have on his command crew. She was gorgeous, intelligent, and capable all in the same breath. I am only so lucky that I got all of that in Mrs. Fish.

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TedStriker  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:12:57pm

re: #262 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Deanna Troi is the woman that every nerd my age wishes he could have on his command crew. She was gorgeous, intelligent, and capable all in the same breath. I am only so lucky that I got all of that in Mrs. Fish.

Speaking of Captain Jellico, though:

Why Captain Jellico Is Actually Pretty Awesome

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:13:39pm

re: #247 lawhawk

The markets are going to pitch a fit on Monday with all the news swirling around Trump looking at trying to fire Powell at the Federal Reserve.

Powell is a guy Trump picked instead of reupping Yellen as every other president typically does when they inherit the Fed Chair. Trump sought out his own guy, and it turns out that Powell is doing what the Fed always does - not what Trump wants.

It’s possible that Trump’s pissed because all of his business loans are now even more costly because of the interest rate hike, and it could be as simple as that, but Trump really doesn’t get how any of this works, or how it will play with the rest of the world.

They’ll see Trump as an arsonist who’ll be setting the markets aflame.

The news coming out about how they’re trying to calm the markets is only further proof that Trump was indeed trying to fire Powell.

Really, the biggest takeaway from the whole story that Trump is considering firing Powell is that he blames the Fed for the slumping stock market. Not his trade war, not his tax cuts, not his deregulatory moves, but instead accusing the Fed of not keeping things running at full speed until the whole machine melts down from overstress. And that’s only going to get louder as the UE starts to rise and the market continues to drop. When Q4 comes in lower than Q3 despite the holiday season, he’s gonna post with such ferocity that he may stroke out.

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TedStriker  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:13:42pm

re: #262 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Deanna Troi is the woman that every nerd my age wishes he could have on his command crew. She was gorgeous, intelligent, and capable all in the same breath. I am only so lucky that I got all of that in Mrs. Fish.

Sirtis’ real Cockney accent knocks me out.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:14:09pm

re: #255 Joe Bacon 🌹

Before 1966 there were seven shows I loved—Cheyenne, I’d root for him in every episode and yell at the TV every time Cheyenne got beaten up or ripped off. My Favorite Martian because Ray Walston made me laugh a lot, My Living Doll—Julie Newmar was my first crush, I wanted a Rhoda the Robot of my very own. One Step Beyond scared me because it was based on real events. Twilight Zone gave me scares every now and then, Boris Karloff’s Thriller chilled me to the point that I took a flashlight to bed and The Outer Limits really scared me with the monsters and the music score that hyped up the fear factor.

Julie Newmar. Oh, yeah …

Cheyenne may have been a wee before my time, but I remember watching Bonanza with my folks, and sometimes I’d watch Gunsmoke with my dad.

Weird thing about Cheyenne though. We had a cheapo “Western Christmas” record that I loved to play around this time of year, and one of the songs on it was the theme from Cheyenne. Go figure. As a kid, I thought it was some obscure cowboy Christmas song, though there are no references to winter, snow or Christmas in the words. Years later, I discovered the truth. But I can still hum the melody from memory.

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plansbandc  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:14:13pm

I love you guys. I want you to know that I won’t stop tweeting to the orange bag about what a moron he is and how he needs to resign. Until, at some point, a white van will come to get me, but they will be so goddamn incompetent about trying to get me in the van that every single one of my neighbors will see and block the grab.

Imma large human, I suspect the white van denizens will be skinny little incel patriot fucks. The whole thing will be so embarrassing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:16:12pm

re: #265 TedStriker

Sirtis’ real Cockney accent knocks me out.

Oh my God. When I actually got to see her in person, and she was literally feet away, and her ACCENT, and the fact that (despite all the work she’s had) she is BEAUTIFUL… I literally almost fell over. Mrs. Fish had to kind of prop me up because she knew how hard I was fanboying at that point. I admit it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:16:34pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:17:47pm

My favorite 1960’s TV shows:
That Was The Week That Was
Rowan & Martin Laugh-In
Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

And my favorite Canadian show:
Wayne & Shuster Comedy Special

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:21:55pm

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

My favorite 1960’s TV shows:
That Was The Week That Was
Rowan & Martin Laugh-In
Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

And my favorite Canadian show:
Wayne & Shuster Comedy Special

I watched the first 3 series too!

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steve_davis  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:22:20pm

re: #115 mmmirele

OK, yeah, I work for an evil too big to fail bank, but this is a serious question.

Do you think there’d be a market meltdown if Trump fired the Fed Chair? Trump’s Fed Chair was sworn in earlier this year. And, to give people an idea of the tenure of Fed Chairs, there have been 16 total (including Powell) since 1914.

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Long-term Fed Chairs:
1934-1948: Marriner Eccles
1951-1970: William Martin
1987-2006: Alan Greenspan

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I’m thinking the markets would go haywire if Trump canned the Fed Chair.

I would so love to be named Marriner Eccles. I could probably go into a bank and they’d just lay banded hundreds on the counter for me. Just smells like a name that lights a cigar with nothing less than the embers of a burning twenty.

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:22:43pm

re: #260 TedStriker

But, then Troi actually got to take her command officer’s test afterwards.

And crashed the Enterprise…. /sorry, not sorry.

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lawhawk  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:28:02pm

re: #273 lawhawk

And crashed the Enterprise…. /sorry, not sorry.

And apparently killed the thread too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:28:22pm

re: #274 lawhawk

And apparently killed the thread too.

You THREAD-MURDERER, you.///

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sagehen  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:30:27pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

And David’s being dragged for his SAT score.
While a 1270 is nothing to sneeze, SAT scores are not the be-all and end-all.

He was turned down to have entered with the class of ‘22; his gap year activities made them give him another look, he was admitted to the class of ‘23.

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ObserverArt  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:30:36pm

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

My favorite 1960’s TV shows:
That Was The Week That Was
Rowan & Martin Laugh-In
Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

And my favorite Canadian show:
Wayne & Shuster Comedy Special

I liked the Smothers Brothers because they were considered ‘risque’ counter-culture threats to what used to Make America Great Before…they came along and ruined the youth.

Heh. Too bad it didn’t last long. Too much controversy I guess and then CBS got cold feet. It really had an audience too, but that didn’t save it in the long run.

Some things remain the same don’t they…politically and socially?

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:37:49pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:39:29pm

I had a thought about that border wall GoFundMe yesterday. Could many of those donations be credit card charges that could later be reversed? IOW no one is really giving anyone that money.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:40:15pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:44:35pm

I’m not sure Stansaid’s sarcasm will be understood by Talib, who apparently is as dumb as a fence post.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:44:42pm

re: #280 Single-handed sailor

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Bibi has only himself to blame there for trusting Trump.

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TedStriker  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:47:35pm

re: #273 lawhawk

And crashed the Enterprise…. /sorry, not sorry.

TBH, she did the best she could, given the circumstances…

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Belafon  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:48:45pm

re: #281 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’m not sure Stansaid’s sarcasm will be understood by Talib, who apparently is as dumb as a fence post.

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That’s why I wrote my tweet yesterday about candy cane fields: history would be so different if Nazis were in Mexico that you just can’t compare them.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 7:49:20pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:08:44pm

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Bibi has only himself to blame there for trusting Trump.

I have detested Bibi since the 1990’s. He was one of the many factors contributing to Trump’s successful campaign. Hopefully, the Israeli justice system will take him down. And hopefully Israel will learn from its mistakes in placing its trust in such a scoundrel.

And hopefully, we will survive those who placed our trust in an even more despicable scoundrel.

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Belafon  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:09:01pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:09:10pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:11:50pm

re: #287 Belafon

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A prisoner of his own device

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:16:02pm

SMH

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:17:23pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:24:15pm

Our bitch-ass president should do something like that.

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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:24:34pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg

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The insanity gets worse with this one - it is hard to believe a US president* is locked up in the white house, eating junk food and tweeting about himself, while dissolving the US government.

It is lovely to take timeout at Christmas but the knowledge remains - this a.h. is destroying the world that we knew.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:26:55pm

re: #290 Single-handed sailor

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SMH

In the real world, even his allies were eventually forced to admit Nancy tap-danced on his nuts during the live White House meeting (though they tried to claim a “victory” because he’d drug in the cameras), and even Chuck now is showing the spine she loaned him in this shutdown. All indications are that, when the House Dems take the majority in two weeks, Donny is going to look even more powerless and inept as he keeps tilting at windmills while the DNC are stacking up bills like cord wood outside Mitch’s door.

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Belafon  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:30:44pm

re: #294 Targetpractice

And showing the GOP how to properly do investigations.

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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:32:17pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

He’s still going.

GOPers need to sort out this shutdown - living in the alternate trump universe for more than 48 hours will have the whole country screaming that they voted for an imbecile.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:33:10pm

Anyone up for a Saturday Night Shred?

Iframe

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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:38:31pm

re: #241 Joe Bacon 🌹

That ass will sing a different tune if she doesn’t get her Social Security check!

That ass has a distinctive trump like look.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:38:45pm

re: #296 fern01

GOPers need to sort out this shutdown - living in the alternate trump universe for more than 48 hours will have the whole country screaming that they voted for an imbecile.

The time to show any spine was Thursday, when Ryan could have called Donny’s bluff and put the Senate CR on his desk after passing it with a veto-proof majority. Instead, he decided that the honor of the House GOP demanded they prove Nancy wrong, so they rammed through the $5.7B down payment on Donny’s vanity project and then bolted out of town.

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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:41:02pm

re: #247 lawhawk

The markets are going to pitch a fit on Monday with all the news swirling around Trump looking at trying to fire Powell at the Federal Reserve.

Powell is a guy Trump picked instead of reupping Yellen as every other president typically does when they inherit the Fed Chair. Trump sought out his own guy, and it turns out that Powell is doing what the Fed always does - not what Trump wants.

It’s possible that Trump’s pissed because all of his business loans are now even more costly because of the interest rate hike, and it could be as simple as that, but Trump really doesn’t get how any of this works, or how it will play with the rest of the world.

They’ll see Trump as an arsonist who’ll be setting the markets aflame.

The news coming out about how they’re trying to calm the markets is only further proof that Trump was indeed trying to fire Powell.

He’s killing my retirement - I’ll probably be dead before it’s rebuilt to what it was - surely there must be millions of Florida retirees, who voted for trump, in the same situation - I hope they are hurting, I hope their life style is imploding.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:45:01pm

re: #296 fern01

GOPers need to sort out this shutdown - living in the alternate trump universe for more than 48 hours will have the whole country screaming that they voted for an imbecile.

if only

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:45:36pm

By the way, I bolded $5.7B because all the reports about Donny just wanting $5B are total bullshit. The House GOP put in $5.7B (IOW, nearly $6B) on what is effectively a down payment as even the (wildly optimistic) WH price tag for the wall is $25B. And that assumes that there are not years or longer of fights in the courts over seizure of private and tribal lands to build this damned monstrosity.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:46:06pm
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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:49:37pm

re: #299 Targetpractice

The time to show any spine was Thursday, when Ryan could have called Donny’s bluff and put the Senate CR on his desk after passing it with a veto-proof majority. Instead, he decided that the honor of the House GOP demanded they prove Nancy wrong, so they rammed through the $5.7B down payment on Donny’s vanity project and then bolted out of town.

I know, this was the GOP serving their master - and trying to claim they didn’t want a shutdown. Ryan’s last present to a grateful despot.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:49:54pm

Honestly, were I a more cynical man, I might think this was a play by the Congressional GOP to drag things into next month so they can then spin $1.6B for border security as a “win” while continuing to promise that they’re gonna some how wring $5B from the House DNC in a future bill.

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retired cynic  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:51:01pm

re: #304 fern01

I know, this was the GOP serving their master - and trying to claim they didn’t want a shutdown. Ryan’s last present to a grateful despot.

DT is NEVER grateful.

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fern01  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:51:30pm

re: #306 retired cynic

DT is NEVER grateful.

Ryan never worked that out.

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 8:56:10pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:01:04pm

OK, I’m not getting “hippopotamus”….

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teleskiguy  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:03:28pm

Serendipity. My mother gave me an iPhone X tonight, to replace my dead-as-a-doornail iPhone 4S (I haven’t had a working cell phone for almost a week). She told me “I couldn’t stand the fact that I couldn’t call you!”

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wrenchwench  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:04:08pm

re: #309 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, I’m not getting “hippopotamus”….

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Look at it as almost submerged in murky water.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:05:27pm

re: #311 wrenchwench

Look at it as almost submerged in murky water.

I don’t take tub baths anymore….

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Targetpractice  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:07:13pm

It’s not even January 2nd and already the concern-trolling has begun:

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:10:35pm

re: #306 retired cynic

DT is NEVER grateful.

It doesn’t matter whether DT is grateful; Ryan is only concerned about the GOP base and making sure it comes to vote. And the base loves the wall.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:12:15pm

re: #313 Targetpractice

It’s not even January 2nd and already the concern-trolling has begun:

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Well, the Republicans’ overcrowded 2016 field (17? 18?) spelled disaster all right, but just for everybody else.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:12:32pm

re: #313 Targetpractice

It’s not even January 2nd and already the concern-trolling has begun:

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As long as Bernie and Tulsi vanish quickly, we are probably ok.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:14:13pm

re: #313 Targetpractice

It’s not even January 2nd and already the concern-trolling has begun:

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Written by one Matthew Rozsa. I wonder if all of his work is stupid. Oh wait, it’s Salon, of course it is.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:15:14pm

re: #317 Single-handed sailor

Written by one Matthew Rozsa. I wonder if all of his work is stupid. Oh wait, it’s Salon, of course it is.

Ah Salon, where HA Goodman was given carte blanche to post every possible lie about Hillary…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:16:17pm

re: #314 Hecuba’s daughter

It doesn’t matter whether DT is grateful; Ryan is only concerned about the GOP base and making sure it comes to vote. And the base loves the wall.

The base will never be happy with anything less than that fantasized—er, excuse me: “restored”—segment of the Great Wall of China that tourists are shown, only 2,000 miles long. They’re not going to like “steel slats”, especially when they realize that’s been going in since Obama. Not that they’ll believe that.

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austin_blue  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:51:47pm

re: #290 Single-handed sailor

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SMH

Yeah. He really has no idea how these things work. The HoR controls the purse strings and can start investigations with full subpoena powers.

Tax returns at last!

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austin_blue  Dec 22, 2018 • 9:57:36pm

re: #309 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, I’m not getting “hippopotamus”….

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I’m not either. That’s either a badly shaped dildo or a skinny right-hand twist batard.

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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:44:38am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Bibi has only himself to blame there for trusting Trump.

He fucked up…. he trusted Trump.

No one can trust him because he’s a reactionary know nothing who’ll screw anyone over if he thinks it benefits him personally.

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coin operated  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:26:58am

re: #297 Unshaken Defiance

Satriani always gets a +1


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