Holiday Jam: Snarky Puppy Feat. Lalah Hathaway, “Something”

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“Something” (2014 Grammy Winner for Best R & B Performance)
from Snarky Puppy’s live DVD/CD - “Family Dinner - Volume One”

Buy it here:
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written by David Foster & Brenda Russell
arranged by Robert “Sput” Searight, Cory Henry, Bill Laurance, Mark Lettieri, & Michael League
produced by Michael League
co-produced by Snarky Puppy
recorded and filmed at the Jefferson Center in Roanoke, VA, on March 8, 2013.

Lalah Hathaway - guest vocalist
Robert “Sput” Searight - drums
Nate Werth - percussion
Michael League - bass
Bob Lanzetti - electric guitar
Mark Lettieri - electric guitar
Cory Henry - organ
Bill Laurance - Fender Rhodes
Jay Jennings - trumpet (solo)
Mike “Maz” Maher - trumpet
Chris Bullock - tenor sax & bass clarinet
Chelsea “Peaches” West - backing vocals
Katya Diaz - backing vocals
Rachella Searight - backing vocals

engineered by Eric Hartman
assisted by Avi Gunther & Jake Dempsey
mixed by Eric Hartman
mastered by Scott Hull
film directed by Andy LaViolette
filmed by Andy LaViolette, Brad Holt, Simon C.F. Yu, and Nikki Birch

On March 8th, 2013, Snarky Puppy and a host of special guests convened at the Jefferson Center in Roanoke VA. The project was to record a series of live performances in audio and video that would bring attention and benefit to the ongoing work of the center. The Jefferson Center is a non-profit arts organization that is revitalizing a key neighborhood in Roanoke with the restoration of Jefferson High School and the renovation of the Shaftman Performance Hall. The hall brings world class music to the local community through the Music Lab, providing education and recording space for local children.

The Music Lab at Jefferson Center is working daily to pull from every social and economic class of the Roanoke community and create the next wave of real, human musicians. They host low cost or free after-school programs for any interested young people filled with visits by guest artists, private instrumental instruction, and recording training. Wafting out of the little studios and rehearsal rooms on the third floor of Jefferson Center, you can hear Afro-beat in Swahili, hip-hop in Liberian Kreyol, the blues coming from the guitar of a 13 year-old prodigy, and the undeniable sound of young musicians growing. It’s a thing that needs to be supported at all costs across this country, and by purchasing this record, you’ve done it.

A portion of every sale will go to the Music Lab at Jefferson Center.

“IT’S SOMETHING”
Words and Music by David W. Foster, Brenda Gordon Russell
(c) IRVING MUSIC, INC. ON BEHALF OF ITSELF AND FOSTER FREES MUSIC, INC. / ALMO MUSIC CORP. ON BEHALF OF ITSELF AND RUTLAND ROAD MUSIC (ASCAP, BMI)
Not for broadcast transmission.
All rights reserved. DO NOT DUPLICATE.

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412 comments
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2018 • 4:50:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 4:52:14pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 4:55:36pm

I watched “Hostiles” with Christian Bale and Rosamund Pike. A heartwarming story about a veteran and a widow who adopt a minority child.

SPOILER:

Click to Reveal

After everyone else in the film dies by gunshot or cancer, but mostly gunshot.

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 4:59:59pm

From the last thread:

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

Syria’s a country we don’t have much investment in. South Korea is an entirely different deal.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:01:30pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:01:49pm

Jim Williams, ‘The Man at the Wall,’ dies at age 84

Retired U.S. Air Force Master Sgt. Jim Williams died Dec. 19 at his home in Corriganville at age 84. He continued to serve his country long after retiring from his 20 years in uniform.

“Jim posed for Lee Teter (who painted the original ‘Reflections’) as being a businessman visiting the Vietnam Memorial Wall,” said Cook. “And one can infer what is going through this man’s mind and heart while honoring those names on The Wall.

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:02:35pm

I recently had a coworker tell me that even though Trump’s trade decisions are hurting various groups, they will ultimately be good for the economy. I just wonder how many of them are going to think that when Trump’s shenanigans reduce our military need to the point that my defense contractor company no longer gets contracts.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:02:59pm

Hah! Thought you’d sneak on past me with a new thread? Not this time!

From the last thread:

re: #61 ipsos

O THE HOOMANITY!

You rang? ;)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:04:58pm

Man. Check out Lalah Hathaway’s multiphonic singing in this jam, near the end. Absolutely amazing, sings two notes at once.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:05:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:05:59pm

Baltimore Police: $163,000 spent on gun buyback that yielded over 1,000 firearms — and a rocket launcher
baltimoresun.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:08:49pm

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹

Baltimore Police: $163,000 spent on gun buyback that yielded over 1,000 firearms — and a rocket launcher
baltimoresun.com

I’m sure gun buybacks are somehow unconstitutional—maybe the NRA will explain how.

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:09:32pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Man. Check out Lalah Hathaway’s multiphonic singing in this jam, near the end. Absolutely amazing, sings two notes at once.

I was lovin’ this anyway, and then she added THAT!

Speaking of Man. Does Michael League ever sleep? I think you can just put everything he does on here, and I’d be happy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:11:26pm

re: #12 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m sure gun buybacks are somehow unconstitutional—maybe the NRA will explain how.

They’ve sued cities in the past, not specifically about buybacks, but the idea a city can’t dispose of public property (which the guns become) without disposing of them at a publicly-announced auction (so their members can buy them).

That said, the city is well within it’s rights to trace any weapons used in crimes, and conduct background checks on all sales.

That rocket launcher isn’t going anywhere though. The city police chief said they’ve asked the military to trace the origin of the rocket launcher.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:11:37pm

A less than glorious moment in US military history. On this day in 1776, US troops from Massachusetts and Pennsylvania fought each other at Fort Ticonderoga. Alcohol was involved.
1776 ‘Christmas Riot’ At Fort Ticonderoga Reveals Long-Forgotten Tensions

There were class differences, cultural clashes, and escalating rivalries between officers. There was also a lot of boredom and alcohol. On Christmas night, a Pennsylvania colonel named Thomas Craig appears to have led a sudden vicious attack.

Dozens of Pennsylvania soldiers followed him, raiding the Massachusetts encampment, shouting threats against the “Damn Yankees” and threatening murder. Keagle found one officer’s account that described Pennsylvania soldiers “armed with guns, bayonets and swords, [who] by force entered the tents and huts of [Massachusetts] officers and soldiers, dragging many out of doors naked and wounding them, robbing and plundering.”

Apparently no one died and senior officers soon restored order.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:18:29pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:18:38pm

Facebook Post

I might take up chili pepper farming to cash in on the skyrocketing demand from all those taco trucks the Democrats will bring in when Trump gets the boot.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:25:49pm

Well I just came back from seeing Mary Poppins Returns. It was worth it to see Dick Van Dyke dancing on the screen one more time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:27:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:27:50pm

Listened to that again and Lalah Hathaway isn’t just singing two random notes, either - she makes the changes. Blows the rest of the band away.

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:27:54pm

re: #16 Ace Rothstein

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The main two reasons you will be fired in a Trump administration: Telling him things he doesn’t want to hear…and doing the things he wants only for them to inevitably fail.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:29:13pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

The main two reasons you will be fired in a Trump administration: Telling him things he doesn’t want to hear…and doing the things he wants only for them to inevitably fail.

And him never wanting to take the blame.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:31:59pm

re: #18 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well I just came back from seeing Mary Poppins Returns. It was worth it to see Dick Van Dyke dancing on the screen one more time.

Went with a girlfriend to see it this afternoon — and while it was visually spectacular, the story was less than meh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:34:13pm

re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter

Went with a girlfriend to see it this afternoon — and while it was visually spectacular, the story was less than meh.

I agree with your review. Not the same as the original.

But I just wanted to see Dick Van Dyke on the big screen one last time and that made me happy!

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fern01  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:34:39pm

re: #4 Belafon

From the last thread:

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Syria’s a country we don’t have much investment in. South Korea is an entirely different deal.

This is how he changes the topic. Syria is now not important because - South Korea. Everything he does is worse than the previous thing - so we forget about bad & look at worse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:36:40pm

I just went out to the mailbox and got my mail from yesterday. What’d we get? Ooooh, a small box.

(Opens, rustle rustle)

My new glasses from the VA!

(Puts them on)

I can see better than my old ones! Great! Wait, wut? What’s going on? They’re warming up and steaming up and now I can’t seea df;;rta;elrqwneg b

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:37:17pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

And him never wanting to take the blame.

Ayep. Either you get fired for not doing what he wants, or you get fired because you did and then he blames you to cover up for his mistakes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:38:21pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:38:59pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:40:30pm

re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter

Went with a girlfriend to see it this afternoon — and while it was visually spectacular, the story was less than meh.

My wife and I went to see Aquaman this afternoon and I feel the same about it.

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:40:36pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

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What, no third option for “FUCK NO!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:40:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:46:19pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Could be a fake account, but how can anyone tell at this point? The Poe Singularity is vanishing in the rear view mirror.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:47:38pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Could be a fake account, but how can anyone tell at this point? The Poe Singularity is vanishing in the rear view mirror.

No blue check, it’s a parody account.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:47:40pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

@New_Fox_News? Might not be Fox. I read through some of the thread — and someone pointed out that Fox went dark on Twitter a month ago.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:48:16pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I went to see Aquaman this afternoon and I feel the same about it.

The Aqua-plot was recycled from countless sources. Illegitimate son of exiled princess must return to his homeland to challenge his megalomaniac younger half-brother for the throne and become the rightful king. Stitched onto that was a separate subplot dealing with another man’s vengeance for the illegitimate son letting the man’s father die. Then there was a melee and lots of CGI.

The CGI was about the only thing the ancient Greeks did not have as plot devices.

Still, it was not a bad movie. Just not up to Wonder Woman standards.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:50:14pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:50:49pm
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fern01  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:51:13pm

re: #16 Ace Rothstein

It NEVER pays
1. to work for trump
2. to do what he asks you to do

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:51:20pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Could be a fake account, but how can anyone tell at this point? The Poe Singularity is vanishing in the rear view mirror.

created in October

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:52:08pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:52:19pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Could be a fake account, but how can anyone tell at this point? The Poe Singularity is vanishing in the rear view mirror.

So, it’s a faux Faux?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:53:59pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

So, it’s a faux Faux?

In a logical universe, that would mean ~(~p) = p, where p is real news. So it would be true.

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fern01  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:54:48pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

And him never wanting to taking the blame.

FTFY

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:55:05pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

So, it’s a faux Faux?

Bananabana faux Faux, Me my mofo?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:55:51pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

It doesn’t have a checkmark so I’m guessing it’s a wingnut supporter. Only has a few tweets since Oct. 12.

In the meantime, all the European stock markets took a bath yesterday (except Russia, which was up sharply).

Image: 5819d99f50bd6fa542aefa153bf1c705c932ef860869f16568f7285fd5716a05.png

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:56:16pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:56:53pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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The President can’t award contracts like some sleazy real estate developer on a reality TV show.

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fern01  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:58:19pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

The President can’t award contracts like some sleazy real estate developer on a reality TV show.

Other Presidents perhaps? Who knows with this one?

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2018 • 5:58:43pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I went to see Aquaman this afternoon and I feel the same about it.

My lady and I went to Spiderman and found a really good story along with some exquisite animation. A comic book movie that actually looks like a comic book but in a really good way unlike certain TV attempts.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:00:31pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:02:18pm

WUT IS THIS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:04:36pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:05:57pm

This is Mike Pence fantasy. In Trump’s fantasy all the angels are Ivanka wearing Victoria’s Secret underwear.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:06:06pm

My wife will be serving lamb satay shortly. Yum.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:06:22pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:07:39pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

This is Mike Pence fantasy. In Trump’s fantasy all the angels are Ivanka wearing Victoria’s Secret underwear.

[Embedded content]

The Weather Girls - It’s Raining Men

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:10:02pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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The same word as always: “Access.” There are too many who still believe or want to believe that “the pivot” will one day happen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:10:42pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

I cross-posted your tweet to Wonkette and got this in response from a wag over there:

Also Conservatives: “OMG Justin Trudeau caused a sleeper cell of eleventy zillion [bigoted word] terrists to run amok with his virtue-signaling tweet! He pissed off Saudi Arabia and China and AOT,K! Also too, WHAT ABOUT HILLARY’S EMAILS???11!!?”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:12:48pm

Utah Outcasts review a claim from a pulpit pimp claiming that Trump is…under attack from Luciferian Advanced Beings

NSFW because X and Kyle’s comments.

Trump is ‘Under Attack’ By Luciferian Advanced Beings

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:13:04pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:13:07pm

Hell, let’s just say for shits and giggles that “the pivot” did happen one day and Donny suddenly started acting like “normal” presidents. What would it really do besides kill the remainder of his base’s support for him?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:14:31pm

re: #60 Joe Bacon 🌹

Utah Outcasts review a claim from a pulpit pimp claiming that Trump is…under attack from Luciferian Advanced Beings

NSFW because X and Kyle’s comments.

That might explain his off-the-rails Twitter feed.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:17:19pm
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Mattand  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:18:39pm

Hey, all,

From the Better Late Than Never Department: Merry Christmas to the LGF-verse.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:19:21pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Is Fox allowing “FUCK NO!” as an answer to that question?

re: #31 Targetpractice

What, no third option for “FUCK NO!”

Great minds and all that… :)

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:20:39pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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From the same thinking that says “I can’t be racist because I’ve got black friends who say I’m not.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:21:25pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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we want names

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:21:50pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:22:33pm

Seriously are there even any whales left? Is there some Japanese Ahab out there?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:25:33pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

Or maybe Trump has a thing about the Blue Men group.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:25:57pm
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freetoken  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:27:08pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Trump has set the pace for dismantling any semblance of word cooperation, and the Japanese know that.

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:32:00pm

Realized last night that, at this point, the only thing that will save Trump’s presidency is Mueller coming out in the next few months and announcing that there is no evidence whatsoever to even label him an unindicted co-conspirator. As in fulfilling the prophecy of Cheeto Benito that he would be “exonerated” by Mueller.

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freetoken  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:32:38pm

Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas | Judy Garland ♡

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whitebeach  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:38:17pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Man. Check out Lalah Hathaway’s multiphonic singing in this jam, near the end. Absolutely amazing, sings two notes at once.

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Listened to that again and Lalah Hathaway isn’t just singing two random notes, either - she makes the changes. Blows the rest of the band away.

Big deal. As a younger man I often sang multiple notes at once. Sadly, this always happened after unfortunate episodes in athletic events.

Merry Xmas and Happy Holidays to all lizards. I haven’t been around here much lately because not very well. Unable even to cook the turkey today. Fortunately my bro and in-laws had plenty of leftovers to bring (couldn’t eat any myself, but it was a nice family thing).

To a better New year for all of us!

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mmmirele  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:39:17pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

WUT IS THIS.

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The one in the bottom left, I saw it on Facebook earlier and I said, in response to someone else, “At least I’m not the only person who thought this was a gay steam bath.” Seriously. *ouch*

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:40:12pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:43:14pm

re: #76 whitebeach

Big deal. As a younger man I often sang multiple notes at once. Sadly, this always happened after unfortunate episodes in athletic events.

Merry Xmas and Happy Holidays to all lizards. I haven’t been around here much lately because not very well. Unable even to cook the turkey today. Fortunately my bro and in-laws had plenty of leftovers to bring (couldn’t eat any myself, but it was a nice family thing).

To a better New year for all of us!

Get well! You are missed! {whitebeach}

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mmmirele  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:43:56pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Seriously are there even any whales left? Is there some Japanese Ahab out there?

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When I was in Japan, we were served whale at one meal. I don’t think any of us touched it. I also found I couldn’t eat octopus. As I said to the rest of the tour, “I can’t eat our cephalopod friends.” But man, nobody touched that whale.

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freetoken  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:50:52pm

re: #80 mmmirele

When I lived in Japan, on occasion I would see whale meat in the meat counter at the grocery store… usually in small quantities though, as supplies were quite limited.

I’m not sure if many Japanese want to eat whale any more. But Abe is part of the old old school, his grandparents being all Imperial Japanese folk, and Abe will do what it takes to please the atavists in his own country. And now Abe knows that there will not be any push back from the US.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 6:54:15pm

OK, I have been shamed…

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:02:46pm

More migrants left by ICE in Downtown El Paso on Christmas; 2,000 expected by week’s end

elpasotimes.com

Cruelty is the point.

Juan Diego, who was among the 100 migrants dropped off in Downtown El Paso on Christmas Day by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said she and her daughter had nothing to eat during their journey.

Dulce, she said, has been sick with diarrhea and headaches.

“It has been very difficult,” Juan Diego said in Spanish explaining that there are no jobs in her country. She is hoping to travel to Tennessee to stay with relatives.

(more)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:08:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:10:02pm

Extreme heat and years of ongoing drought, both linked to climate change, are contributing to the frequency and severity of wildfires across the western United States. But in his executive order, Trump instead cites concerns about regulatory obstacles to fighting wildfires and the value of logging to prevent future fires.

The executive order, titled “Promoting Active Management of America’s Forests, Rangelands, and other Federal Lands to Improve Conditions and Reduce Wildfire Risk,” calls on the secretaries of Interior and Agriculture to reduce “regulatory barriers” to getting rid of “hazardous fuels” that contribute to wildfires.

As part of his wildfire fuel reduction plan, the president ordered the easing of regulations in order to allow for the harvest of least 3.8 billion board feet of timber -a measure of volume of lumber — from lands managed by the U.S. Forest Service and another 600 million board feet of timber on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) property.

shocking, I know…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:12:33pm

YES! This is why tax cuts, and trickle-down economics in general, are a cynical hoax.


(Yes, they meant “hoard” rather than “horde” but this is not a grammar test.)
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:12:41pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

“You, over there, with the bot - have you ever seen a naked woman?”

Evening Lizardim and Merry Christmas for those who celebrate the holiday. For those who don’t, well, have a happy federal holiday, because unlike some assholes, I don’t care whether someone says Christmas, Xmas, or Happy Fucking Holidays, Bitch.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:16:48pm

I saw this, got distracted, and it took me a long time to find it again. An article with new (to me) information. Excerpts:

[…]

An immigration lawyer from Southern New Mexico, who asked not to be identified, said the Otero County Processing Center is for adults only, so the Guatemalan boy likely wasn’t being held there. She said he might have been detained at an inland Border Patrol checkpoint, likely on U.S. 70 or U.S. 54.

[…]

U.S. Rep.-elect Veronica Escobar, D-El Paso, said that the federal government has failed to meet its obligation in protecting and meeting the health care needs of migrants crossing the border seeking asylum. [She’s quoted at length. She won the seat Beto is stepping out of.]

[…]

The Washington Post reported that a CBP official said the boy was apprehended in El Paso, then held at a Border Patrol cell at a checkpoint between Las Cruces and Alamogordo due to overcrowding in El Paso cells.

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

More migrants left by ICE in Downtown El Paso on Christmas; 2,000 expected by week’s end

elpasotimes.com

Cruelty is the point.

(more)

Busy journalist this day. Same one for your link and mine.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:17:17pm

re: #87 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“You, over there, with the bot - have you ever seen a naked woman?”

Evening Lizardim and Merry Christmas for those who celebrate the holiday. For those who don’t, well, have a happy federal holiday, because unlike some assholes, I don’t care whether someone says Christmas, Xmas, or Happy Fucking Holidays, Bitch.

You’ll pry my Season’s Greetings out of my cold dead hands.

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:18:07pm

Hark! The Herald Angels Sing

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:18:10pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

You’ll pry my Season’s Greetings out of my cold dead hands.

Compliments of the seasoning to you, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:18:29pm
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can't think of a decent username  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:18:57pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

More migrants left by ICE in Downtown El Paso on Christmas; 2,000 expected by week’s end

elpasotimes.com

Cruelty is the point.

(more)

They’re gonna have to build more prisons to house the ICE and Border Patrol agents who’ll get convicted of crimes against humanity.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:19:36pm

re: #91 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Compliments of the seasoning to you, too.

I complemented my wife over the satay lamb. Yum.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:20:17pm

re: #93 can’t think of a decent username

They’re gonna have to build more prisons to house the ICE and Border Patrol agents who’ll get convicted of crimes against humanity.

Should be no problem after we release those jailed for 1/8 ounce of weed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:20:33pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

I complemented my wife over the satay lamb. Yum.

Mrs. Fish’s mom makes a killer roast beef. She showed up early to the party because I’m her favorite son-in-law and she wanted to make sure I got some before the marauding hordes invaded my house and took the rest. I definitely made sure to compliment her cooking after that.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:21:57pm
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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:22:01pm

re: #81 freetoken

It sounds like the Japanese version of our coal miner and a political system that caters to an outdated industry to the detriment of our environment.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:22:29pm

Time for New Year’s headline predictions:

Cartel kidnaps Trump! Demand 50 billion or they send him back!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:23:58pm

re: #99 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Time for New Year’s headline predictions:

Cartel kidnaps Trump! Demand 50 billion or they send him back!

No thanks, good luck have fun.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:24:52pm

re: #99 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Time for New Year’s headline predictions:

Cartel kidnaps Trump! Demand 50 billion or they send him back!

The Ransom of Orange Chief.

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:24:59pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

More migrants left by ICE in Downtown El Paso on Christmas; 2,000 expected by week’s end

elpasotimes.com

Cruelty is the point.

(more)

So these people are so “dangerous” that they cannot do anything but lock them up until they are deported back to their country of origin, but also so harmless that ICE can dump them like unwanted trash in the midst of a gov’t shutdown.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:26:26pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:27:48pm

You don’t care about that either, or you wouldn’t be plumping for a worthless border wall that wouldn’t work even if Trump got every dime from Mexico us:

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:27:59pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

You’ll pry my Season’s Greetings out of my cold dead hands.

Happy Christmas! Merry New Year! Jolly Holidays! :D

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whitebeach  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:28:00pm

re: #99 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Time for New Year’s headline predictions:

Cartel kidnaps Trump! Demand 50 billion or they send him back!

Goddamit, I really can’t afford it, but I’m in for fifty thou.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:28:18pm

re: #98 Odie Hugh Manatee

It sounds like the Japanese version of our coal miner and a political system that caters to an outdated industry to the detriment of our environment.

In other words, conservatives.

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:28:18pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

My husband’s favorite!

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:30:12pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

So these people are so “dangerous” that they cannot do anything but lock them up until they are deported back to their country of origin, but also so harmless that ICE can dump them like unwanted trash in the midst of a gov’t shutdown.

You’re doing it wrong, the response is:

DEMORATS WONT PAY FOR THE WALL AND WANT TO LET CRIMINAL ILLEGALS RUN UNCHECKED IN OUR COUNTRY AND WE NEED TO PROTECT OURSELVES!

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:30:26pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

You don’t care about that either, or you wouldn’t be plumping for a worthless border wall that wouldn’t work even if Trump got every dime from Mexico us:

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A comment made by Tucker Carlson, a man who on any other given day would rail on about the homelessness problem in California as though the homeless were guilty of a crime by offending his delicate nasal passages.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:30:47pm

re: #105 William Lewis

Happy Christmas! Merry New Year! Jolly Holidays! :D

A most felicitous RamaHanuKwanzaaMas to you.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:33:45pm

re: #108 retired cynic

My husband’s favorite!

With vanilla wafer crust. That’s the secret.

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:34:13pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

A comment made by Tucker Carlson, a man who on any other given day would rail on about the homelessness problem in California as though the homeless were guilty of a crime by offending his delicate nasal passages.

Democrats are constantly talking about taking care of the homeless. But the thing Beto is pushing right now is a response to a Trump created emergency, and that require something different than the long term solution to homelessness, though both seem to be limited by the same group of people.

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:35:42pm

My dad still makes banana pudding using a double boiler. My middle son is now learning how to make it.

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:40:03pm

My big Christmas present:

A 43” 4K tv I am using as a monitor, replacing my two 24” 1920x1080 monitors.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:40:13pm

The replies. The replies. I. Am. Ded. Now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:40:56pm

re: #115 Belafon

My big Christmas present:

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A 43” 4K tv I am using as a monitor, replacing my two 24” 1920x1080 monitors.

Niiiiiice.

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:41:44pm

“WHAT ABOUT THE HOMELESS HERE?!”, the cry of people who would lose their fucking minds if anyone suggested that the rich be taxed to afford a program to provide the homeless with something more than a bowl of soup and a sermon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:43:08pm

re: #118 Targetpractice

Even homeless U.S. citizens have access to assistance programs than undocumented people do not.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:43:34pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

A comment made by Tucker Carlson, a man who on any other given day would rail on about the homelessness problem in California as though the homeless were guilty of a crime by offending his delicate nasal passages.

Turns out that’s a parody account. That said, the response is right up Tucker Carlson’s alley.

Host of “Tucker Carlson Tonight” weeknights at 8pm ET @foxnews. I shred liberals for sport. Retweets not always endorsements. Parody.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:44:43pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

Are we to understand that Tucker Carlson is out aiding the homeless this Christmas?

(No? Didn’t think so.)

ETA: Someone needs to stop channeling him so well… he who fights with monsters should take care not to become a monster. If you stare at the abyss, the abyss stares back at you.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:45:41pm

re: #121 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Are we to understand that Tucker Carlson is out aiding the homeless this Christmas?

(No? Didn’t think so. )

Oh, I’m sure that good Christian is praying for them…to go back where they came from…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:49:13pm

Katelin the curly haired gun girl crapped out a Christmas Tweet that is so crapfuckingly stupid I’m putting it behind spoiler tags.

WARNING: before clicking on the “reveal” button you give positive consent to possibly losing a brain cell or two.

Click to Reveal
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:50:27pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Katelin the curly haired gun girl crapped out a Christmas Tweet that is so crapfuckingly stupid I’m putting it behind spoiler tags.

WARNING: before clicking on the “reveal” button you give positive consent to possibly losing a brain cell or two.

[Hidden content]

Infowars? Oh honey. If you weren’t doing porn before, you definitely are now. You may not realize it, but you are.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:50:29pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:50:29pm

re: #122 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh, I’m sure that good Christian is praying for them…to go back where they came from…

I got lots of prayers when I was a homeless vet. Aid from conservatives, not so much. More like “get a job you moocher.”

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:51:28pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

With vanilla wafer crust. That’s the secret.

Absolutely.

My favorite: my mother’s crumb-top pear pie. To die for.

And if I’m ever going to have it again, will have to make it! ARGH!

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:52:00pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Katelin the curly haired gun girl crapped out a Christmas Tweet that is so crapfuckingly stupid I’m putting it behind spoiler tags.

WARNING: before clicking on the “reveal” button you give positive consent to possibly losing a brain cell or two.

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If she really wants to get the boys, that top needs more of a V cut.

Edit: or the Fox gig.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:52:49pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Infowars, lol wtf

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:55:28pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Man, she can’t handle that gun for shit.

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:56:31pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Waste of ammunition.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 7:58:00pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Katelin the curly haired gun girl crapped out a Christmas Tweet that is so crapfuckingly stupid I’m putting it behind spoiler tags.

WARNING: before clicking on the “reveal” button you give positive consent to possibly losing a brain cell or two.

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Dumbest thing about these people? Poor saps still think they have all the guns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:01:30pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:03:20pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

So these people are so “dangerous” that they cannot do anything but lock them up until they are deported back to their country of origin, but also so harmless that ICE can dump them like unwanted trash in the midst of a gov’t shutdown.

Exactly. If they are terrorists or criminals, why is ICE releasing them into the general public? Bizarre.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:05:23pm

August 17, 2018:

Officials worry Trump may back Erik Prince plan to privatize war in Afghanistan
“I know he’s frustrated,” Blackwater founder Prince said of the president. “He gave the Pentagon what they wanted. And they haven’t delivered.”

President Donald Trump is increasingly venting frustration to his national security team about the U.S. strategy in Afghanistan and showing renewed interest in a proposal by Blackwater founder Erik Prince to privatize the war, current and former senior administration officials said.

Prince’s idea, which first surfaced last year during the president’s Afghanistan strategy review, envisions replacing troops with private military contractors who would work for a special U.S. envoy for the war who would report directly to the president.

It has raised ethical and security concerns among senior military officials, key lawmakers and members of Trump’s national security team. A year after Trump’s strategy announcement, his advisers are worried his impatience with the Afghanistan conflict will cause him to seriously consider proposals like Prince’s or abruptly order a complete U.S. withdrawal, officials said. (emphasis added)

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:06:37pm

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. If they are terrorists or criminals, why is ICE releasing them into the general public? Bizarre.

Trump and ICE are hoping they commit a crime.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:09:58pm

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, she can’t handle that gun for shit.

Can’t aim worth a damn either.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:10:47pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

More migrants left by ICE in Downtown El Paso on Christmas; 2,000 expected by week’s end

elpasotimes.com

Cruelty is the point.

(more)

What pisses me off about this is that CBP is saying that they can’t provide temporary holding facilities because it’s too much trouble for them. They’ve had no trouble locking them up at Hair Furor’s orders but if Hair Furor can’t lock them up? Their response is to put monitors on them and dump them on the streets rather than assisting them in any way.

Jail good, assistance bad. That’s our so-called leader and the jack-booted thug force he’s built.

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:11:34pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Dumbest thing about these people? Poor saps still think they have all the guns.

And they actually think only they know how to use them.

Reminds me, I was looking at my copy of The Art of the Rifle by Jeff Cooper. That man was a real piece of work - he was so racist that the Marines wanted nothing more of him after Korea and he made his name helping the Rhodesian regime. I just told my son I try to keep separate the scumbag from the good marksmanship knowledge.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:14:01pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:14:09pm

re: #136 Belafon

Trump and ICE are hoping they commit a crime.

Even if one of the migrants commits a crime, that changes nothing. More migrants will still be seeking asylum and this country will still need to reform its immigration policy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:15:41pm

re: #138 Odie Hugh Manatee

What pisses me off about this is that CBP is saying that they can’t provide temporary holding facilities because it’s too much trouble for them. They’ve had no trouble locking them up at Hair Furor’s orders but if Hair Furor can’t lock them up? Their response is to put monitors on them and dump them on the streets rather than assisting them in any way.

Jail good, assistance bad. That’s our so-called leader and the jack-booted thug force he’s built.

Not just the so-called leader; every conservative politician in my life.

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:16:11pm

re: #141 Patricia Kayden

Even if one of the migrants commits a crime, that changes nothing. More migrants will still be seeking asylum and this country will still need to reform its immigration policy.

It should not make a difference, but in this crazy reality we seem to be inhabiting, it will.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:18:21pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:20:34pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:21:46pm

Went and saw Vice earlier. It was pretty good. That is all.

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:22:43pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

It’s the ears.

Bless his heart!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:23:10pm

Oh, it’s going to be another Bette Davis day on the stock exchanges when they open. Nikkei and Hang Seng futures are down. ^VIX has jumped past 36 which models show may translate to a 750 drop on the DJIA.

Looks like Blofeld will fire Mnuchin tomorrow afternoon after the markets close.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:24:04pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

WUT IS THIS.

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Who the fuck are the blue guys? Dr. Manhattan and his brothers? The Blue Man Group with understudies? Cree toga party?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:24:15pm

re: #143 retired cynic

Illegal migrants have already committed murder and other serious crimes. I know because Republicans have already exploited those stories to their base. Yet the majority of Americans aren’t anti-migrants.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:24:46pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

“Kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out” may have worked for the Crusades, but there’s a reason Christians became insanely unpopular for a while there in the late Middle Ages.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:25:28pm

re: #115 Belafon

My big Christmas present:

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A 43” 4K tv I am using as a monitor, replacing my two 24” 1920x1080 monitors.

I was contemplating that idea last night but I just bought components (whole new guts) to stuff in my old PC box.

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:25:55pm

re: #150 Patricia Kayden

Illegal migrants have already committed murder and other serious crimes. I know because Republicans have already exploited those stories to their base. Yet the majority of Americans aren’t anti-migrants.

You are correct. And if a majority of Americans were to influence Trump, that would be awesome.

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:39:28pm

re: #153 Belafon

You are correct. And if a majority of Americans were to influence Trump, that would be awesome.

If a majority of Americans were to influence ANY part of the political system in this country it would be awesome: the problem is that it’s a unified and obsessive minority that drives altogether too much of our politics.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:40:36pm

Private American defense contractors handling our business in Afghanistan…what could possibly go wrong?

///

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:40:39pm

re: #153 Belafon

You are correct. And if a majority of Americans were to influence Trump, that would be awesome.

This majority doesn’t have the financial resources to invest in his towers. He has no interest in trying to feed the hungry or shelter the homeless, unless they are wealthy and can pay for the accommodations. His racism is part of his real persona and not some fake meat he throws to the base. The majority is irrelevant to him, if it demands that he behave with decency.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:43:08pm

Another year, and another victory in the War on Christmas.

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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 8:59:22pm

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

Private American defense contractors handling our business in Afghanistan…what could possibly go wrong?

///

I mean look at how Blackwater did in Iraq…oh right, they threatened to murder a federal investigator for looking into their activities just months before they massacred over a dozen civilians in an incident that was so horrific that the convictions for it led the company to change its name to try to get away from the notoriety.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:04:21pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

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Now picture if you will, a bearded and robed Muslim American during Ramadan saying “It’s Ramadan Mubarak, not Happy Holidays!!!”, while firing an AK-47 at a “Happy Holidays” target. Wonder what her reaction would be to that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:08:17pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

And Blackwater just happens to have been founded by one Erik Prince.

Funny that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:10:13pm

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

And Blackwater just happens to have been founded by one Erik Prince.

Funny that.

And his sister is the Secretary Of Education…

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:11:39pm

re: #159 GlutenFreeJesus

Now picture if you will, a bearded and robed Muslim American during Ramadan saying “It’s Ramadan Mubarak, not Happy Holidays!!!”, while firing an AK-47 at a “Happy Holidays” target. Wonder what her reaction would be to that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:14:03pm

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

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Reminder—the one on the left was caught doing something naughty out of wedlock and went back to being a nobody…

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whitebeach  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:25:34pm

Good night, lovely people, and remember in this time that whether you believe in god or not, or whatever god you may believe in, our little lives are wondrous.

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:27:19pm

re: #164 whitebeach

Good night, lovely people, and remember in this time that whether you believe in god or not, or whatever god you may believe in, our little lives are wondrous.

I so hope, I know, you are right. Best wishes to you, and better health! Sooner!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:32:34pm

re: #164 whitebeach

Good night, lovely people, and remember in this time that whether you believe in god or not, or whatever god you may believe in, our little lives are wondrous.

Wishing you good health and a good 2019.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:44:18pm
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fern01  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:45:04pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Seriously are there even any whales left? Is there some Japanese Ahab out there?

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trump is killing every worldwide treaty about anything and everything. people see what he gets away with & decide to do the same. I truly fear for the existence of our world.

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fern01  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:45:54pm

re: #73 freetoken

Trump has set the pace for dismantling any semblance of word cooperation, and the Japanese know that.

I said the same - but not as well - then I read your reply.

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freetoken  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:46:34pm

My perennial favorite, one of the few singers who really could sing the old standard for what it’s worth:

Mario Lanza “O Holy Night”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2018 • 9:55:50pm

It’s off to bed. Wake up tomorrow morning and see how far the Asian stock markets declined…

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:01:15pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Seriously are there even any whales left? Is there some Japanese Ahab out there?

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Maybe some organization such as Earth First (if it still exists) or Greenpeace can take direct action to interfere with these plans. I refused to purchase Japanese products for years because of their involvement in whaling. If they resume whaling, I will resume my boycott. Only one person for now— but the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:02:35pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:04:24pm

re: #167 Single-handed sailor

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Well, the answer’s pretty simple: Trump simply doesn’t give a shit. In fact, I’m pretty convinced that all he’s doing now is checking off items from his ‘16 campaign so he can bullshit people with a “Promises Made, Promises Kept” tagline in ‘20.

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:06:51pm

We have had a lot of gun idiots shown here today, but here’s a little bit of when hunting and gun using is something much better.

Goose hunting with a 20 ga flintlock double shotgun

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:10:29pm

re: #175 William Lewis

We have had a lot of gun idiots shown here today, but here’s a little bit of when hunting and gun using is something much better.

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Video

I was going to say that looks like Manitoba but the hills are too big. /

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:11:41pm

re: #175 William Lewis

That’s a hard way to earn dinner. 20 ga and flintlock. Takes some skills.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:18:50pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:23:10pm

wrong link

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:24:11pm

J.J. Cale - Humdinger

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:25:59pm

re: #115 Belafon

My big Christmas present:

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A 43” 4K tv I am using as a monitor, replacing my two 24” 1920x1080 monitors.

That’s so cool! I would love to have one big screen which I could split for my work, but have no idea how to do it. Just this past week, I purchased another monitor to make my work easier, but having it side by side instead of cattywampus would work even better since I’m looking at medical records on one screen and typing them into a report on the other screen.

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:29:41pm

re: #177 Unshaken Defiance

That’s a hard way to earn dinner. 20 ga and flintlock. Takes some skills.

He’s got a number of black powder hunting videos. Far more interesting than the garbage hunting shows on TV. He’s the kind of person to hold up against the Nugents and other poachers in this world.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:30:53pm

re: #164 whitebeach

Good night, lovely people, and remember in this time that whether you believe in god or not, or whatever god you may believe in, our little lives are wondrous.

So glad to see you posting. I hope the next year brings you much better health and happiness.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:33:09pm

re: #178 Single-handed sailor

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freetoken  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:45:22pm

So much Christmas music, even serious music, suffers from over production, and an esthetic that is infused with maudlin tones.

Cantique de noel (O Holy Night) makes a good test of this. Lots of videos on Youtube, by all the top singers (opera and otherwise)… and nearly all of them suffer from attempting to be too good.

To me, the effective singer doesn’t need gimmicks. Strip away all the production… and just be left with the singer. If they can cause a response that is more than just nostalgia, then I propose they are on the way to be a truly great singer.

If the singer believes the song you can tell.

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freetoken  Dec 25, 2018 • 10:59:11pm

Pol Plançon, Cantique de Noël (Adolphe Adam) (Victor, 1903)

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:06:41pm
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prairiefire  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:10:09pm

re: #185 freetoken

I think that is why “Ava Maria” is so effective.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:13:38pm

re: #185 freetoken

So much Christmas music, even serious music, suffers from over production, and an esthetic that is infused with maudlin tones.

Cantique du noel (O Holy Night) makes a good test of this. Lots of videos on Youtube, by all the top singers (opera and otherwise)… and nearly all of them suffer from attempting to be too good.

To me, the effective singer doesn’t need gimmicks. Strip away all the production… and just be left with the singer. If they can cause a response that is more than just nostalgia, then I propose they are on the way to be a truly great singer.

If the singer believes the song you can tell.

re: #188 prairiefire

I think that is why “Ava Maria” is so effective.

Sometimes, not singing it optimally will be what makes it a good performance of the piece. I have more than one song I like where, if you have a trained ear, can hear the performing is crying his/her way through (parts of) the song.

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prairiefire  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:14:57pm

re: #189 Teukka

Sometimes, not singing it optimally will be what makes it a good performance of the piece. I have more than one song I like where, if you have a trained ear, can hear the performing is crying his/her way through (parts of) the song.

Oh yeah, controlled tone while hitting those high notes.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:18:20pm

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:19:26pm

re: #190 prairiefire

Oh yeah, controlled tone while hitting those high notes.

Three examples I know off-hand:

Hurt

Hello

Click to Reveal

Amy has attempted performing this live a handful of times, never managed to. Which is not hard to understand when you know the backstory

My Heart Will Go On - Original Movie/Demo Version

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The bridge of the song. Wait for it.

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prairiefire  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:26:11pm

re: #191 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

RGmuzkyQBh2JGzabWY63f2it0ftFFShE

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:34:55pm

re: #16 Ace Rothstein

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Mike Mulvaney will be a great acting Treasury Secretary.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:38:26pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Could be a fake account, but how can anyone tell at this point? The Poe Singularity is vanishing in the rear view mirror.

“Faux News” in the logo is a dead giveaway.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:39:32pm

re: #36 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The Aqua-plot was recycled from countless sources. Illegitimate son of exiled princess must return to his homeland to challenge his megalomaniac younger half-brother for the throne and become the rightful king. Stitched onto that was a separate subplot dealing with another man’s vengeance for the illegitimate son letting the man’s father die. Then there was a melee and lots of CGI.

The CGI was about the only thing the ancient Greeks did not have as plot devices.

Still, it was not a bad movie. Just not up to Wonder Woman standards.

Jason Mamoa has Dwayne Johnson level charisma; just a fun guy to watch.

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ckkatz  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:40:16pm

re: #175 William Lewis

We have had a lot of gun idiots shown here today, but here’s a little bit of when hunting and gun using is something much better.

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Video

Never really learned how to hunt birds with a shotgun. So I am impressed with any who has those skills. Let alone with black powder. Thanks for posting it!

And yes, there are an amazing number of idiots out there with guns. And the bullet holes in the walls, ceilings, and floors of local gun ranges show that.

That video reminded me of chorus from this song:

Julio Iglesias - Vuela alto

JULIO IGLESIAS (Vuela Alto) LETRAS

lyricstranslate.com

Attaining a goal takes work
and it takes so much to get there
and when you’ve finally arrived
staying there takes more work.

Try not to let your guard down
or look backwards,
or everything you’ve achieved
they will take away from you.

Nothing is free here
everything has a high price
a step upwards,
is a step for which you must pay.

Here you have to dance to everything
without ever losing your step
they tend to let go of your hand
if they see you going down.

(Chorus)
Fly friend, fly high
don’t be a seagull in the ocean
Fly friend, fly high
don’t be a seagull in the ocean
People shoot to kill
when we fly too low
People shoot to kill
when we fly too low

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:47:31pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:48:41pm

re: #196 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Jason Mamoa has Dwayne Johnson level charisma; just a fun guy to watch.

You can tell he really enjoys playing that character. I follow him on Instagram, and he seems to be as devil-may-care but as warm and friendly as Arthur Curry. He, his kids and some friends did a haka at the Aquaman premiere. ‘Twas cool.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2018 • 11:50:17pm

re: #198 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:02:34am

re: #200 Teukka

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:04:48am

re: #196 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Jason Mamoa has Dwayne Johnson level charisma; just a fun guy to watch.

I like him in Frontier.

Frontier | Official Trailer [HD] | Netflix

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:05:00am

re: #200 Teukka

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Not to mention that some of those Qultists may well lash out violently once they realize they’ve been swindled. Who they’ll lash out against remains to be seen, but they’ll probably find some way to blame it all on folks from the center-left - probably something along the lines of “it was a false flag by the left to make us conservatives look like fools”.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:10:30am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

Not to mention that some of those Qultists may well lash out violently once they realize they’ve been swindled. Who they’ll lash out against remains to be seen, but they’ll probably find some way to blame it all on folks from the center-left - probably something along the lines of “it was a false flag by the left to make us conservatives look like fools”.

I’m sure someone is grifting off the Q hoax; I just don’t know how its being monetized.

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:13:07am

re: #202 Single-handed sailor

Thought Momoa was the weakest actor on SG:Atlantis. Perhaps he’s gotten better as he’s aged?

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:15:26am

For Christmas I got a barrel to store my rum, and with that I can now claim to be an official pirate.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:16:19am

re: #205 freetoken

Thought Momoa was the weakest actor on SG:Atlantis. Perhaps he’s gotten better as he’s aged?

Like Dwayne Johnson, he’s best at playing characters that have his own personality. Neither is exactly Sir Alec Guinness or Anthony Hopkins.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:20:56am
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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:24:17am

re: #208 Single-handed sailor

Trump probably doesn’t even understand that he signed that.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:33:34am

re: #209 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

Trump probably doesn’t even understand that he signed that.

He has forgotten all about the Khans, and probably what he had for dinner last night.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:36:50am

Clueless grandpa

I bet he’s never heard of Minecraft, either.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:50:21am
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freetoken  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:51:29am

Getting back to singers and challenging classics… here is the famous recording by Jussi Bjorling, remastered, which Jussi fans claim is the best version of the song (I tend to agree if we’re only talking about the technical quality of singing.)

Jussi Bjorling O Holy Night (The best recording of a Christmas Carol)

More formal than the Lanza version, though.

As with dancers, I think singers are the most effective when they are on the edge of losing control.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:53:09am

re: #212 Single-handed sailor

Yeah, good luck with that, fellas.

I think Trump enjoys seeing how his tweets affect world events.

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Targetpractice  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:56:52am

re: #212 Single-handed sailor

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Mnuchin might as well just start typing up a resignation letter, as that’ll save him time when he learns via Twitter that he’s been fired and one of his boot-licking assistants is the “Acting” Secretary.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:58:08am

It seems the FDA Food Safety Twitter feed has gone dark since December 21st, but don’t worry. “As soon as funding is restored we will begin notifying you of food borne illnesses again.”

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2018 • 1:02:21am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 26, 2018 • 1:13:31am

re: #215 Targetpractice

Mnuchin might as well just start typing up a resignation letter, as that’ll save him time when he learns via Twitter that he’s been fired and one of his boot-licking assistants is the “Acting” Secretary.

He should just quit now while he’s in Cabo. Make it a tweet, too.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 26, 2018 • 1:27:12am

Cat be cool.

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Teukka  Dec 26, 2018 • 1:28:44am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

Not to mention that some of those Qultists may well lash out violently once they realize they’ve been swindled. Who they’ll lash out against remains to be seen, but they’ll probably find some way to blame it all on folks from the center-left - probably something along the lines of “it was a false flag by the left to make us conservatives look like fools”.

That. Or realizing that not only they but many around them have chosen poorly combining with end-times stuff… Nothing to loose type behavior…

re: #204 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m sure someone is grifting off the Q hoax; I just don’t know how its being monetized.

If you define grifting as more as raking in moolah, plus powah and status, it is being monetized, yes. It is the base motivator for many conspiracy theory originators.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 3:32:58am

The trials and tribulations of being named Alexa in the world of the Amazon Echo (video, 1:42, BBC). One poor woman is named Alexa Seery (Siri) in this video.
bbc.com

I don’t know if there’s a way to change the names of Alexa or Siri, but if not there should be it seems.

The very next video talks about an Echo-enabled microwave. I’m sure any of these Alexas who are in these homes might be a problem for future housefires.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 26, 2018 • 4:13:50am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know if there’s a way to change the names of Alexa or Siri, but if not there should be it seems.

For Alexa Echo devices, you can choose between 3 wake words: Alexa, Amazon and Computer.

This does not apply for Amazon Kindle Fire devices.

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Teukka  Dec 26, 2018 • 4:15:05am

re: #222 Eric The Fruit Bat

For Alexa, you can choose between 3 wake words: Alexa, Amazon and (yes, they went there) Computer.

Why not HAL? Semi-///

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Dave In Austin  Dec 26, 2018 • 4:35:52am
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jeffreyw  Dec 26, 2018 • 5:21:12am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 26, 2018 • 5:29:49am

I love a good visual pun in the morning.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 5:36:37am

The end result of the Kochs mainstreaming Ayn Rand over the past 40 years.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 26, 2018 • 5:50:43am

Strangely quiet this morning.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:01:05am

nytimes.com

It would appear that the New York Time dug up the podiatrist who diagnosed Trump’s timely bone spurs. (He’s dead, his daughters aren’t.)

The daughters state their father diagnosed that as a favour to Fred Trump as a quid pro quo.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:05:36am

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹

nytimes.com

It would appear that the New York Time dug up the podiatrist who diagnosed Trump’s timely bone spurs. (He’s dead, his daughters aren’t.)

The daughters state their father diagnosed that as a favour to Fred Trump as a quid pro quo.

Trump will probably Tweet about how it’s all “fake news” or his usual BS.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:06:36am

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹

nytimes.com

It would appear that the New York Time dug up the podiatrist who diagnosed Trump’s timely bone spurs. (He’s dead, his daughters aren’t.)

The daughters state their father diagnosed that as a favour to Fred Trump as a quid pro quo.

Nice to know their Hillary hate delayed this for years.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:09:02am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

Trump will probably Tweet about how it’s all “fake news” or his usual BS.

Well it’s 0907 EDT and he hasn’t tweeted anything yet this morning. Did he lose his phone again?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:10:51am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:11:13am

re: #232 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Well it’s 0907 EDT and he hasn’t tweeted anything yet this morning. Did he lose his phone again?

Supposedly some economists told him to STFU before he crashed the markets any further.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:12:24am

re: #234 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Supposedly some economists told him to STFU before he crashed the markets any further.

And he actually listened?

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steve_davis  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:19:05am

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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hell to the naw naw - bishop bullwinkle

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:19:43am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

The govt agencies involved are shut down, so they couldn’t approve a contract. Trump personally can’t approve that contract either, since that isn’t how it works.

I think Walt Shaub put it best (in proper English instead of cussing):

Put another way, Trump’s lying his ass off to his know nothing base, and they’ll believe him over the facts.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:20:19am

re: #232 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Well it’s 0907 EDT and he hasn’t tweeted anything yet this morning. Did he lose his phone again?

Maybe he’s too engrossed in Fox and Friends or something. I don’t know - heh, maybe one of the staffers hid it to prevent him from totally crashing the economy.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:23:35am

So, the podiatrist who signed off on Trump’s bone spurs lied about it?

Shocking… absolutely no one.

Here’s the thing. Why is this a story 2 years into Trumpworld. This is the story that should have been run before Trump got the nomination, let alone the November 2016 election.

Now? It just confirms what we’ve always known. Everyone in Trumpworld is compromised, complicit, and/or criminal. It just blends into the background noise that everyone Trump engages with is corrupt/compromised as fuck.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:30:26am

Lol, I was just reading this news report about the chaos in the markets and the writer refers to Trump as having a “King Minus Touch”.

Love it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:35:43am

re: #239 lawhawk

So, the podiatrist who signed off on Trump’s bone spurs lied about it?

Shocking… absolutely no one.

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Here’s the thing. Why is this a story 2 years into Trumpworld. This is the story that should have been run before Trump got the nomination, let alone the November 2016 election.

Now? It just confirms what we’ve always known. Everyone in Trumpworld is compromised, complicit, and/or criminal. It just blends into the background noise that everyone Trump engages with is corrupt/compromised as fuck.

Butter emails.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:36:52am

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

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And that’s why I didn’t applaud this. But hey I’m tired of winning.//

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:37:57am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Butter emails.

F the Screw York Times!

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Jay C  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:38:41am

re: #239 lawhawk

So, the podiatrist who signed off on Trump’s bone spurs lied about it?

Shocking… absolutely no one.

[Embedded content]

Here’s the thing. Why is this a story 2 years into Trumpworld. This is the story that should have been run before Trump got the nomination, let alone the November 2016 election.

Now? It just confirms what we’ve always known. Everyone in Trumpworld is compromised, complicit, and/or criminal. It just blends into the background noise that everyone Trump engages with is corrupt/compromised as fuck.

I’m not sure it would have made much difference even if this “revelation” had come out during the campaign - the “bone spurs” BS always sounded like BS from the start: ISTM that almost everyone just assumed it a was (and always had been) a case of rich-guy-with-connections getting/buying a pass on the draft. It’s hard to retroactively determine what might or might not have influenced anyone’s vote, but I think the Trump voters in 2016 were going to vote for him regardless of the truth/falsity of any allegations against him: or whatever personality flaws might have been revealed. They just don’t seem to give a crap.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:38:45am

re: #238 Dr Lizardo

Maybe he’s too engrossed in Fox and Friends or something. I don’t know - heh, maybe one of the staffers hid it to prevent him from totally crashing the economy.

Well if we are all lucky, he dropped it in the toilet and has to get a replacement. One that has Twitter permanently blocked by the OS.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:39:18am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

But her emails.
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:46:10am

Either he’s pulling our leg or he’s losing his mental faculties. The comments are hilarious, though.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:47:23am

re: #244 Jay C

If the Access Hollywood tape made no difference, the bone spur revelation would have even less.

The GOP wanted this reactionary know nothing no matter what. Enough people bought the Russian agitprop and misinformation that the GOP was more than willing to spread.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:52:51am

re: #212 Single-handed sailor

The tweet horse has left the gate.

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:53:00am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

Lol, I was just reading this news report about the chaos in the markets and the writer refers to Trump as having a “King Minus Touch”.

Love it.

that is very good.
also

YouTube

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:53:36am

re: #248 lawhawk

Hell, the access hollywood tape would probably cause Trumps approval rating to go up. That’s how fucked up this country is right now.

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:56:23am

re: #246 lawhawk

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 26, 2018 • 6:58:31am

re: #247 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Either he’s pulling our leg or he’s losing his mental faculties. The comments are hilarious, though.

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Lol. The comments are gold. He has some explaining to do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:04:42am

Dow up slightly at opening.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:09:01am

re: #254 Eclectic Cyborg

Dow up slightly at opening.

Don’t blink.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:14:46am

Just dropped into the red. Not a good day for prophets profits.

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:17:02am

re: #254 Eclectic Cyborg

Dow up slightly at opening.

10:15 and what was +200 is now in the red
buckle up….again

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Archangelus  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:18:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:21:47am

re: #257 dangerman

10:15 and what was +200 is now in the red
buckle up….again

May have been a dead-cat bounce at the open.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:23:34am

I have to bake a bunch of challah today.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:27:21am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

May have been a dead-cat bounce at the open.

Back up a bit—basically fibrillating.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:30:44am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

Back up a bit—basically fibrillating.

It’s trying to claw back to the 22,000 level. If it can’t find support there, watch for it to drop once again and search for a new base - 21,000 or 20,000.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:34:48am

re: #262 lawhawk

It’s trying to claw back to the 22,000 level. If it can’t find support there, watch for it to drop once again and search for a new base - 21,000 or 20,000.

Watching for 19,732.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:37:11am

Trump’s been on radio silence on Twitter… which is unusual.
An aircraft spotter seems to have noticed a few unusual aircraft movements including the presidential air wing - possibly a flight to Europe/Middle East

It may be Trump going overseas on an unscheduled trip.

It’s thin, but Trump being silent on the twitterverse is indicative that something is going on. He likes surprises, so this may be one - like going to visit troops thinking he’ll be treated like a hero for pulling them out of Syria or Afghanistan without a plan or even coordination with our allies.

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MsJ  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:40:47am

re: #102 Targetpractice

So these people are so “dangerous” that they cannot do anything but lock them up until they are deported back to their country of origin, but also so harmless that ICE can dump them like unwanted trash in the midst of a gov’t shutdown.

Republican “logic”…IOW, there is none. At all.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:41:51am

re: #181 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

That’s so cool! I would love to have one big screen which I could split for my work, but have no idea how to do it. Just this past week, I purchased another monitor to make my work easier, but having it side by side instead of cattywampus would work even better since I’m looking at medical records on one screen and typing them into a report on the other screen.

You need a 4k tv and a video card that supports 3840x2160 (which is the 4k resolution). Even the cheap Nvidia cards support it. I do recommend spending the money on a quality HDMI cable. Then just follow the normal installation instructions.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:51:13am

re: #264 lawhawk

Trump’s been on radio silence on Twitter… which is unusual.
An aircraft spotter seems to have noticed a few unusual aircraft movements including the presidential air wing - possibly a flight to Europe/Middle East

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It may be Trump going overseas on an unscheduled trip.

It’s thin, but Trump being silent on the twitterverse is indicative that something is going on. He likes surprises, so this may be one - like going to visit troops thinking he’ll be treated like a hero for pulling them out of Syria or Afghanistan without a plan or even coordination with our allies.

He’s fleeing to Russia!! //

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:55:49am

re: #239 lawhawk

So, the podiatrist who signed off on Trump’s bone spurs lied about it?

Shocking… absolutely no one.

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Here’s the thing. Why is this a story 2 years into Trumpworld. This is the story that should have been run before Trump got the nomination, let alone the November 2016 election.

Now? It just confirms what we’ve always known. Everyone in Trumpworld is compromised, complicit, and/or criminal. It just blends into the background noise that everyone Trump engages with is corrupt/compromised as fuck.

No one would have cared. Vietnam was a deeply unpopular war that ended over 40 years ago. The fact that someone lied to escape serving would not be shocking and would never have affected the 2016 results, especially given that Trump was a Republican. Trump’s disparaged McCain during the campaign and that didn’t harm him; why would his evading the draft 50 years ago make any difference?

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:59:23am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

No one would have cared. Vietnam was a deeply unpopular war that ended over 40 years ago. The fact that someone lied to escape serving would not be shocking and would never have affected the 2016 results, especially given that Trump was a Republican. Trump’s disparaged McCain during the campaign and that didn’t harm him; why would his evading the draft 50 years ago make any difference?

We’ve been seeing a series of stories about Trump actions before the election, some of them going back decades, all pointing to shady dealings, corruption, and criminality, and yet the Times didn’t feel the need to investigate them until now.

That’s a big part of the problem. They prioritized the bulkshit email nonsense over the wide ranging Trump corruption - even on the Trump foundation being nothing more than a money laundering option for Trump to profit from other people’s donations. They amplified Trump’s claims that Clinton Fdn was corrupt, when it actually was Trump doing the crimes (projecting like Imax).

The attempt to catch up now shows how badly they fell for Trump’s spin (and still are - because they’re playing never ending game of catch-up while Trump spews on to the next outrageous set of lies).

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 7:59:33am

re: #245 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Well if we are all lucky, he dropped it in the toilet and has to get a replacement. One that has Twitter permanently blocked by the OS.

If he stops tweeting, the MSM will revert to their default : he has now become President.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:00:38am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

No one would have cared. Vietnam was a deeply unpopular war that ended over 40 years ago. The fact that someone lied to escape serving would not be shocking and would never have affected the 2016 results, especially given that Trump was a Republican. Trump’s disparaged McCain during the campaign and that didn’t harm him; why would his evading the draft 50 years ago make any difference?

It’s even simpler than that. Republicans don’t care about the troops, they only use them as a weapon against Democrats.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:00:46am

Someone probably told him morale is really fucking low and a visit to the troops would be a good idea.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:00:51am

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:03:47am

re: #269 lawhawk

We’ve been seeing a series of stories about Trump actions before the election, some of them going back decades, all pointing to shady dealings, corruption, and criminality, and yet the Times didn’t feel the need to investigate them until now.

…..
The attempt to catch up now shows how badly they fell for Trump’s spin (and still are - because they’re playing never ending game of catch-up while Trump spews on to the next outrageous set of lies).

The NY Times should be treating the financial scandal the way they treated her emails: a story every day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:06:08am

re: #272 Eclectic Cyborg

Someone probably told him morale is really fucking low and a visit to the troops would be a good idea.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:08:28am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

Love Pete Souza. His coffee table photography books featuring President Obama are great as is his Instagram account.

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:11:46am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

No one would have cared. Vietnam was a deeply unpopular war that ended over 40 years ago. The fact that someone lied to escape serving would not be shocking and would never have affected the 2016 results, especially given that Trump was a Republican. Trump’s disparaged McCain during the campaign and that didn’t harm him; why would his evading the draft 50 years ago make any difference?

while i agree with this - that no one would have cared, and what else was written above, i’d make one small point

it isn’t just that ‘someone lied’

it’s that
1 - someone lied by
2 - paying someone else to lie
3 - and that the second ‘someone’ was a doctor
4 - presumably licensed

and no, likely wouldnt have changed a thing - more’s the pity

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:12:37am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:12:53am

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

Private American defense contractors handling our business in Afghanistan…what could possibly go wrong?

///

Shower electrocutions?

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plansbandc  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:16:39am

re: #24 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve loved DVD all my life. His TV show is my all time favorite. Still makes me laugh every time.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:17:16am

re: #279 Eventual Carrion

Shower electrocutions?

Points for detailed memory.

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plansbandc  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:17:24am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Not gunna do it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:17:48am

re: #277 dangerman

while i agree with this - that no one would have cared, and what else was written above, i’d make one small point

it isn’t just that ‘someone lied’

it’s that
1 - someone lied by
2 - paying someone else to lie
3 - and that the second ‘someone’ was a doctor
4 - presumably licensed

and no, likely wouldnt have changed a thing - more’s the pity

His father did it — he didn’t. That’s not his crime. People engaged in all types of actions to avoid service in Vietnam. It’s the fact that he has continued this practice with his own doctors, including Ronny Jackson.

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:18:13am

re: #269 lawhawk

We’ve been seeing a series of stories about Trump actions before the election, some of them going back decades, all pointing to shady dealings, corruption, and criminality, and yet the Times didn’t feel the need to investigate them until now.

That’s a big part of the problem. They prioritized the bulkshit email nonsense over the wide ranging Trump corruption - even on the Trump foundation being nothing more than a money laundering option for Trump to profit from other people’s donations. They amplified Trump’s claims that Clinton Fdn was corrupt, when it actually was Trump doing the crimes (projecting like Imax).

The attempt to catch up now shows how badly they fell for Trump’s spin (and still are - because they’re playing never ending game of catch-up while Trump spews on to the next outrageous set of lies).

i think (hope) that
- just as it took a while to get trump’s schtick analyzed
- so that now its obvious and predictable
- and it took a while to do some of this digging
- for which some reports deserve pulitzers or at least oscars

- it’s the same for the NYT and some other of the large organs
- it took a while to get their schtick analyzed
- and now their behavior is baked in. they published it themselves for the last 3 years
- its now obvious and undeniable - they chose what to print, what not to, and how to spin it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:18:18am
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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:20:31am

re: #264 lawhawk

Trump’s been on radio silence on Twitter… which is unusual.
An aircraft spotter seems to have noticed a few unusual aircraft movements including the presidential air wing - possibly a flight to Europe/Middle East

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It may be Trump going overseas on an unscheduled trip.

It’s thin, but Trump being silent on the twitterverse is indicative that something is going on. He likes surprises, so this may be one - like going to visit troops thinking he’ll be treated like a hero for pulling them out of Syria or Afghanistan without a plan or even coordination with our allies.

maybe someone told him he loses money every time he tweets…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:21:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:22:25am
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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:24:51am

re: #274 Hecuba’s daughter

The NY Times should be treating the financial scandal the way they treated her emails: a story every day.

the NYT and trump are doing the same dance

- he is not going to pivot and become ‘presidential’ any more than the NYT is going to pivot and become a professional and authoritative newspaper

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:26:14am

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

A less than glorious moment in US military history. On this day in 1776, US troops from Massachusetts and Pennsylvania fought each other at Fort Ticonderoga. Alcohol was involved.
1776 ‘Christmas Riot’ At Fort Ticonderoga Reveals Long-Forgotten Tensions

Apparently no one died and senior officers soon restored order.

There was also a lot of boredom and alcohol

I think I found the title to my yet to be written memoir.

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:30:52am

re: #278 Patricia Kayden

The latest: El Paso Border Patrol Sector, which had custody of both children who died, has ordered immediate medical assessments of all 700 children in its custody. Those with illness/injury to be sent to hospitals

you don’t already do this for every single person in your custody? i.e every single person you detain and are responsible for?

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:34:00am

re: #280 plansbandc

I’ve loved DVD all my life. His TV show is my all time favorite. Still makes me laugh every time.

one of my faves: “Put It In A Sack, Swing it Over Your Head and Scream Like A Chicken”

YouTube

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:36:00am
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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:36:46am

re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter

His father did it — he didn’t. That’s not his crime. People engaged in all types of actions to avoid service in Vietnam. It’s the fact that he has continued this practice with his own doctors, including Ronny Jackson.

oh i get who arranged it and made the quid pro quo ‘payment’
i also get that he knew he didnt have this condition and still wasnt shy about using the excuse

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:42:47am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

No one would have cared. Vietnam was a deeply unpopular war that ended over 40 years ago. The fact that someone lied to escape serving would not be shocking and would never have affected the 2016 results, especially given that Trump was a Republican. Trump’s disparaged McCain during the campaign and that didn’t harm him; why would his evading the draft 50 years ago make any difference?

Remember how Senator Kerry’s Vietnam service record was turned even against him by the Swift Boaters while Bush’s draft-dodging stint with the Air National Guard was overlooked.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:45:04am

Unfu…. nope… just nope. This is one flaming hot take of bulkshit:

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:46:10am

re: #222 Eric The Fruit Bat

For Alexa Echo devices, you can choose between 3 wake words: Alexa, Amazon and Computer.

This does not apply for Amazon Kindle Fire devices.

I changed mine to “computer”, and I say it like Scotty:

hello computer

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:47:01am
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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:47:49am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember how Senator Kerry’s Vietnam service record was turned even against him by the Swift Boaters while Bush’s draft-dodging stint with the Air National Guard was overlooked.

I wonder how much the swift boat stuff really moved the needle in 2004. I suspect the only people who believed it were those prone to believe it (read: Republicans who didn’t like Kerry for the sole fact that he was and is a Democrat).

I don’t think attacks on one’s service (or lack there of) really moves the dial anymore. It didn’t hurt Clinton in 1992 or 1996 when he was running against WWII veterans, one of whom was severely injured in the war. Nor did it help McCain in either 2000 or 2008.

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retired cynic  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:49:54am

re: #213 freetoken

Getting back to singers and challenging classics… here is the famous recording by Jussi Bjorling, remastered, which Jussi fans claim is the best version of the song (I tend to agree if we’re only talking about the technical quality of singing. …

It is lovely. However, my personal favorite is an old tape of my father singing it, with my mother on the organ. You can hear the tears.

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:50:26am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

On Dec. 30, Tokyo will begin cutting tariffs and easing quotas on products sold by some of American agriculture’s biggest competitors—including Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Chile—as part of the new 11-member Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership.

I’m old enough to remember when a Republican presidential nominee was so opposed to this trade agreement that he convinced the Democratic nominee to oppose it as well… even though she helped negotiate it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:53:25am

re: #296 lawhawk

Maria Butina and the Criminalization of Citizen Diplomacy

Citizen Diplomacy

“citizen diplomacy” is to foreign policy what lynch mobs are to the justice system…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:53:45am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:55:38am

re: #299 KGxvi

I wonder how much the swift boat stuff really moved the needle in 2004. I suspect the only people who believed it were those prone to believe it (read: Republicans who didn’t like Kerry for the sole fact that he was and is a Democrat).

I don’t think attacks on one’s service (or lack there of) really moves the dial anymore. It didn’t hurt Clinton in 1992 or 1996 when he was running against WWII veterans, one of whom was severely injured in the war. Nor did it help McCain in either 2000 or 2008.

The Republicans have disparaged those who served in combat for years: think of the disgraceful treatment of McCain in the 2000 South Carolina primary and the abhorrent treatment of Max Cleland in his 2002 election, as well as the swift-boating of Kerry. I really think it was Kerry campaign’s tepid response to the attacks on his reputation that did him in. He was portrayed as an elitist who didn’t connect with average citizens and that portrayal stuck. His heroism was eliminated as a factor and that fatally damaged his prospects.

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:55:44am

re: #302 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Citizen Diplomacy

“citizen diplomacy” is to foreign policy what lynch mobs are to the justice system…

Citizen Diplomacy is going on vacation or studying abroad and meeting some locals and having a good time with them. Espionage is going abroad and getting involved in the internal politics of another country in order to get outcomes favorable to your home country.

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sagehen  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:56:44am

re: #205 freetoken

Thought Momoa was the weakest actor on SG:Atlantis. Perhaps he’s gotten better as he’s aged?

Not in the least; he just played the character with the weakest writing.

If he were the weakest actor, he wouldn’t be the only one who still has a career.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:58:08am

re: #306 sagehen

Not in the least; he just played the character with the weakest writing.

If he were the weakest actor, he wouldn’t be the only one who still has a career.

This. He was the best part of Aquaman by far.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:58:50am
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TedStriker  Dec 26, 2018 • 8:59:07am

re: #306 sagehen

Not in the least; he just played the character with the weakest writing.

If he were the weakest actor, he wouldn’t be the only one who still has a career.

Well, Amanda Tapping and Robert Picardo are still working, so there’s that…

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:01:08am

re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter

His father did it — he didn’t. That’s not his crime. People engaged in all types of actions to avoid service in Vietnam. It’s the fact that he has continued this practice with his own doctors, including Ronny Jackson.

Eh, he was 22. He was definitely old enough to do his own thing. My dad joined when he was 17. John Kerry joined.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:01:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:02:27am

re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter

His father did it — he didn’t. That’s not his crime. People engaged in all types of actions to avoid service in Vietnam. It’s the fact that he has continued this practice with his own doctors, including Ronny Jackson.

Everyone ever charged and convicted of being an accessory will be relieved to know this.

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rhuarc  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:07:09am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Quick, let’s build that wall now while he’s out of the country!! /s

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:08:35am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t find it on FlightRadar 24.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:10:42am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Assuming it’s legit, it’s such transparent bullshit. The fucker would be in Mar-a-Lago but for the shut down.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:10:52am

re: #296 lawhawk

Unfu…. nope… just nope. This is one flaming hot take of bulkshit:

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The Nation’s publisher and editor Katrina vanden Heuval’s husband, Stephen Cohen (professor of Russian Studies at NYU last I knew), seems to be a Putin apologist.

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retired cynic  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:14:49am

re: #296 lawhawk

Unfu…. nope… just nope. This is one flaming hot take of bulkshit:

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That’s why I stopped getting their mag some years ago. Occasionally they find a kernel, but most of the time it is just nuts.

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:16:19am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it’s using a different call sign, it could be that he’s not on the plane. Technically, I believe any American plane that the president is on is designated Air Force One. The “official” AF1 planes get different call signals when in air and the president is not on board.

That said, given the shutdown, those planes should be grounded. The guys on Pod Save America mentioned that during a shut down in the Obama Administration Congressional Democrats were ready to revolt when Obama was debating whether or not to go ahead with a diplomatic trip to Asia during a shut down.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:18:08am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Everyone ever charged and convicted of being an accessory will be relieved to know this.

I lived through that tumultuous time and totally understand how almost everyone who could tried to find an escape from serving. Bush 43 got into the National Guard to avoid service in Vietnam. I marched against the war and my parents, both proud veterans who served overseas during WWII, would have supported my brother if he fled the country to avoid service. But my brother was lucky like Clinton and won the draft lottery.

In any case, it is Trump’s doctor lying on his behalf while he was running for President that is the real scandal.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:20:22am

re: #318 KGxvi

If it’s using a different call sign, it could be that he’s not on the plane. Technically, I believe any American plane that the president is on is designated Air Force One. The “official” AF1 planes get different call signals when in air and the president is not on board.

That said, given the shutdown, those planes should be grounded. The guys on Pod Save America mentioned that during a shut down in the Obama Administration Congressional Democrats were ready to revolt when Obama was debating whether or not to go ahead with a diplomatic trip to Asia during a shut down.

Do you actually think that Congressional Republicans would care if Trump did this?

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:20:36am

re: #316 Barefoot Grin

The Nation’s publisher and editor Katrina vanden Heuval’s husband, Stephen Cohen (professor of Russian Studies at NYU last I knew), seems to be a Putin apologist.

He’s been an apologist for things Soviet and Russian all along. He’s the reason nothing The Nation says on those topics should be trusted.

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KingKenrod  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:23:07am

Can’t wait to see how Trump fucks up a slam dunk photo op with the troops. Or maybe he’s fleeing to Moscow.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:26:58am

Stocks are up on news the President has left the country.

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:28:23am

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re: #322 KingKenrod

Can’t wait to see how Trump fucks up a slam dunk photo op with the troops. Or maybe he’s fleeing to Moscow.

My guess? AF1 is a decoy. He’s on an unmarked jet heading to Mar-A-Lago.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:28:55am

Just watch the praise flow for him being “Presidential” when he drops in for a 45-minute photo-op visit at some military base.

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gocart mozart  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:29:12am

The first time a heard this joke, I was seven years old. The only change is “the smartest man in the world” jumps out with the book bag”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:29:21am

re: #323 Single-handed sailor

Stocks are up on news the President has left the country.

Stocks are up on the news that he has stopped tweeting for the day.

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:30:26am

According to this website, it looks like the plane is heading towards the Middle East.

Curiouser and curiouser.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:30:51am

re: #322 KingKenrod

Can’t wait to see how Trump fucks up a slam dunk photo op with the troops. Or maybe he’s fleeing to Moscow.

I got $10 that says he sent Melania or the Kushners to meet with the troops instead.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:31:11am

re: #326 gocart mozart

The first time a heard this joke, I was seven years old. The only change is “the smartest man in the world” jumps out with the book bag”

[Embedded content]

Yep. I remember hearing it with Kissinger — who was the smartest man in the world.

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:33:36am

re: #322 KingKenrod

Can’t wait to see how Trump fucks up a slam dunk photo op with the troops. Or maybe he’s fleeing to Moscow.

Diplomatic snafu by talking about how we can say “Merry Christmas” again, while in Saudi Arabia?

332
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:35:51am

re: #315 Mike Lamb

Assuming it’s legit, it’s such transparent bullshit. The fucker would be in Mar-a-Lago but for the shut down.

If it isn’t using the AF1 callsign, he’s not on the plane. It’s somebody else.

333
gocart mozart  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:36:03am
334
Belafon  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:38:58am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it isn’t using the AF1 callsign, he’s not on the plane. It’s somebody else.

Look for the green screen effects.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:44:54am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it isn’t using the AF1 callsign, he’s not on the plane. It’s somebody else.

Is there some rule that prevents them from disguising the callsign? Seems to me that if he really wanted to do something surprising, he would definitely conceal anything that might reveal his plans.

Where is Putin, btw? Could Trump be traveling to a secret meeting with him?

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:45:13am

re: #333 gocart mozart

Lincoln negotiated the crisis by distinguishing between soldiers in battle and war criminals. First he demanded the Santee trial records and ordered the military judges to separate Indians who had fought in battles from those who had committed murder or rape against civilians. Then he reviewed the records and concluded that 265 of the Santee had been convicted only of going to war against the United States. Although these men had not been party to a formal declaration of war, the Lincoln administration decided they were nonetheless covered by the traditional rules of war that prohibited the execution of prisoners. President Lincoln commuted their sentences. The 38 Indians who had been convicted of murder or of rape against civilians, though, fell outside the traditional protections accorded to enemy combatants. Their sentences stood.

Lincoln, it seems, was a man ahead of his time.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:49:02am
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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:49:19am

re: #335 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there some rule that prevents them from disguising the callsign? Seems to me that if he really wanted to do something surprising, he would definitely conceal anything that might reveal his plans.

Where is Putin, btw? Could Trump be traveling to a secret meeting with him?

According to wikipedia, in March 2000, Clinton flew on an unmarked Gulfstream with another plane using the AF1 call signal following the same route a few minutes later. But it appears that AF1 is the call signal for most planes carrying the president.

Likewise, since it’s not designated Air Force Two, it’s likely not Pence either.

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:50:22am

re: #337 lawhawk

I wonder how many people had planned on visiting national parks and monuments during the Christmas/winter break that their kids got from school?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:51:35am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it isn’t using the AF1 callsign, he’s not on the plane. It’s somebody else.

Wrong.
They never use the AF1 callsign for combat zone visits. Though, in recent history they have tended not to use a VC-25A for at least the inbound flight. Using instead a C-32 (757) or a C-17 to draw less attention

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:51:59am

re: #338 KGxvi

When GWB went to Iraq on his secret flight, did they use the standard AF1 callsign, or did they call it SAM-26002 (or 26001)?

It’s kinda hard to miss the plane at Andrews and if it’s overseas and Trump’s absent from Twitter, that series of events suggests that they are flying him on board, and they took his phone away to make sure it stays secret until he lands.

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:53:10am

re: #338 KGxvi

According to wikipedia, in March 2000, Clinton flew on an unmarked Gulfstream with another plane using the AF1 call signal following the same route a few minutes later. But it appears that AF1 is the call signal for most planes carrying the president.

Likewise, since it’s not designated Air Force Two, it’s likely not Pence either.

Pompeo, most likely.

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:58:16am

re: #341 lawhawk

When GWB went to Iraq on his secret flight, did they use the standard AF1 callsign, or did they call it SAM-26002 (or 26001)?

It’s kinda hard to miss the plane at Andrews and if it’s overseas and Trump’s absent from Twitter, that series of events suggests that they are flying him on board, and they took his phone away to make sure it stays secret until he lands.

That’s quite possible. Another element is that his public schedule has nothing on it for today.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 26, 2018 • 9:58:32am

re: #342 makeitstop

Pompeo, most likely.

The VC-25As from the Presidential Airlift Group do not get loaned out to cabinet Secretaries. The 89th Air Wing has plenty of other aircraft for them to use.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:01:37am

On the issue of the New York Times just now reporting Fred Trump’s buying off a doctor and his daughters just speaking out about it now, a charitable explanation might be the Times only found out about it now.

If his disparagement of troops and Gold Star Families didn’t knock off any significant number of voters supporting him, I doubt that wouldn’t either. There were a whole lot of people who did whatever they could to avoid that war.

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:02:10am

re: #325 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just watch the praise flow for him being “Presidential” when he drops in for a 45-minute photo-op visit at some military base.

see re: #289 dangerman

- he is not going to pivot and become ‘presidential’ any more than the NYT is going to pivot and become a professional and authoritative newspaper

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:02:28am

re: #343 KGxvi

That’s quite possible. Another element is that his public schedule has nothing on it for today.

How is that different from any other day? /s

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:03:32am

re: #343 KGxvi

That’s quite possible. Another element is that his public schedule has nothing on it for today.

He has been getting so much bad press for not visiting the troops this would seem to be an ideal time to actually have such a meeting, especially after the resignations of Mattis and McGurk. Making a statement to show his solidarity with the forces.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:05:22am

re: #348 Hecuba’s daughter

He has been getting so much bad press for not visiting the troops this would seem to be an ideal time to actual have such a meeting, especially after the resignations of Mattis and McGurk. Making a statement to show his solidarity with the forces.

Making a statement to use troops as a prop, and to prop up his chaotic and criminal admin that is circling the drain.

Even the troops have to start seeing that, especially if the reports from the field were to be believed that they were besides themselves at how we just screwed our local allies, like the Kurds and others fighting against IS and terrorists we continue to go after in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the world.

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:06:51am

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹

On the issue of the New York Times just now reporting Fred Trump’s buying off a doctor and his daughters just speaking out about it now, a charitable explanation might be the Times only found out about it now.

If his disparagement of troops and Gold Star Families didn’t knock off any significant number of voters supporting him, I doubt that wouldn’t either. There were a whole lot of people who did whatever they could to avoid that war.

a question of whether they started to dig into this back during the primaries or they didn’t bother to look until now

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:08:11am

Maybe Iran should offer to host a Trump tower. That would certainly put them into his good graces. (.5 / )

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:09:34am

re: #350 dangerman

a question of whether they started to dig into this back during the primaries or they didn’t bother to look until now

Given the doctor had died, they might not have thought there were any sources they could check.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:10:21am

Current mood:

Metallica Fade to Black in real HD !!!! awesome !!!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:11:23am

Beliefs inform actions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:14:02am

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹

C-SPAN caller: I support Trump’s shutdown because ‘it’s getting us closer’ to the second coming of Jesus

There is only one sub-group of Trump supporters whose views I can at least understand even though I do not agree; those who are convinced that the entire US social/economic/political system is about to collapse and that electing Trump will expedite the inevitable so we can hit bottom and start working on recovering.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:18:37am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:20:55am
358
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:22:24am

re: #355 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is only one sub-group of Trump supporters whose views I can at least understand even though I do not agree; those who are convinced that the entire US social/economic/political system is about to collapse and that electing Trump will expedite the inevitable so we can hit bottom and start working on recovering.

And this is not just a view of far-right religious people. My opponent in the last election ran partially on “do you want an atheist in your local government.” There are no Evangelicals in my town as far as I am aware; the majority are Lutherans with a smaller group of Catholics and a couple Quakers.

One vote would have forced a “draw by lots” situation and two votes would have denied the neo-Nazi the seat. He goes to the Lutheran Church here in town faithfully. While I cannot be sure, I suspect religion was put in front of political position for at least a few voters.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:31:12am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:33:21am

re: #358 Anymouse 🌹

And this is not just a view of far-right religious people. My opponent in the last election ran partially on “do you want an atheist in your local government.” There are no Evangelicals in my town as far as I am aware; the majority are Lutherans with a smaller group of Catholics and a couple Quakers.

One vote would have forced a “draw by lots” situation and two votes would have denied the neo-Nazi the seat. He goes to the Lutheran Church here in town faithfully. While I cannot be sure, I suspect religion was put in front of political position for at least a few voters.

Just a reminder on Bush 41: from secularism.org.uk

“Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are Atheists?

Bush (Senr): I guess I’m pretty weak in the Atheist community. Faith in god is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are Atheists?

Bush (Senr): No, I don’t know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush (Senr): Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I’m just not very high on Atheists.”

The antagonism toward atheism is widespread among certain religious communities. Often they don’t believe people can be moral without a god who punishes those who misbehave.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:34:21am

Prepared for the winter storm. It’s 32 F / 0 C here now (the streets are starting to freeze).

Wipers up on the car, checked coffee and rum supply, got out the snow shovel, ready to go.

A whole bunch of the USA is going to get shellacked today.

forecast.weather.gov

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:39:59am
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jaunte  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:42:11am
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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:43:03am

Hey all!

Back from my Christmas trip to see a brother, his wife and a nephew up in the old home area.

Also got to do a video call to my brother and his wife out in Tucson Arizona.

It was nice to be able to do the video but sad at the same time. He has Parkinson’s and is at a very advanced stage. Not good at all. I have fears he may not be long for this world. He is losing muscle control so much so he has a hard time swallowing which means in time he may have a hard time breathing.

What a nasty disease, and from what I remember Trump has either cut research for these types of diseases or is trying.

Damn him and any that cut research funding for any disease.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:43:50am

re: #362 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The Hill
✔
@thehill
Claire McCaskill on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: “I’m a little confused why she’s the thing” hill.cm

16
12:37 PM - Dec 26, 2018

AOC was running in a very blue progressive district; Claire ran in a red state. The winning campaigns and policies are very different. Claire may be out of touch — but so are all those who criticized her on that thread. They are the people who can lead to a second Trump victory, unless he’s forced out before then.

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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:44:21am

re: #362 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

A little help for the soon-to-be former Senator:

1. She beat a member of the Democratic House Leadership in a primary
2. She’s not afraid to promote policies in which she actually believes
3. She’s young
4. She’s not terrified of arguing for her preferred policies

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:44:49am

re: #360 Hecuba’s daughter

Just a reminder on Bush 41: from secularism.org.uk

“Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are Atheists?

Bush (Senr): I guess I’m pretty weak in the Atheist community. Faith in god is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are Atheists?

Bush (Senr): No, I don’t know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush (Senr): Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I’m just not very high on Atheists.”

The antagonism toward atheism is widespread among certain religious communities. Often they don’t believe people can be moral without a god who punishes those who misbehave.

as a thought experiment i wonder how the conversation might be different instead of the charged label “atheist” it was something like “someone who doesnt go to your church”

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:46:10am

re: #363 jaunte

LOL:

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:46:18am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

Prepared for the winter storm. It’s 32 F / 0 C here now (the streets are starting to freeze).

Wipers up on the car, checked coffee and rum supply, got out the snow shovel, ready to go.

A whole bunch of the USA is going to get shellacked today.

forecast.weather.gov

46F here. Friend said to me yesterday she knows we are going to be punished for the good weather, though she hopes later rather than sooner. Of course, you expect that in the Chicago area

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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:46:19am

re: #362 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Claire McCaskill on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: “I’m a little confused why she’s the thing”

- she got voted in
- you got voted out

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:48:39am
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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:49:06am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:49:08am

re: #363 jaunte

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:49:35am

re: #367 dangerman

as a thought experiment i wonder how the conversation might be different instead of the charged label “atheist” it was something like “someone who doesnt go to your church”

Many of these people have no problem with those belonging to other traditional religions; they believe that you can have a moral compass only if you believe in G-d. Most of us don’t share that view — but there are many who still do

375
jaunte  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:52:39am
376
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:53:16am

Jemele Hill has no regrets about calling Trump a white supremacist: ‘I thought I was saying water is wet’ (Goes to Raw Story)

She is the long-time ESPN host who was fired after putting up on Twitter that she thought Donald Trump was a white supremacist. It started a firestorm of controversy at ESPN about politicising the sports network.

377
dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:53:35am

re: #372 lawhawk

Trump hired all the best people.

All of them are know nothings con artists, grifters, and think only of personal profit. Page is spewing more nonsensical ravings than the typical lunatic mind.

shorter carter page:
“it’s not fair that i got caught”

378
jaunte  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:53:43am

The Pardon Me Administration

379
KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:55:57am

re: #372 lawhawk

torts previously unseen in the history of the United States and without precedent in the annals of American law

Unless/until these alleged torts are recognized by a court of law and/or a legislature, they are not torts (see Intentional and/or Negligent Infliction of Emotional Distress). In the meantime, we have plenty of existing torts which you may choose to allege.

380
A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:58:13am

re: #366 KGxvi

A little help for the soon-to-be former Senator:

1. She beat a member of the Democratic House Leadership in a primary
2. She’s not afraid to promote policies in which she actually believes
3. She’s young
4. She’s not terrified of arguing for her preferred policies

Without context, I can’t tell whether McCaskil’s attacking or defending. E.g. “I’m a little confused why she’s become every right-winger’s nightmare.” After all, she’s far from the only progressive in the last election.

381
KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 10:59:05am

re: #375 jaunte

Depends on if you consider “Academic All-American” on a CV to be a material fact. Not sure I would. If he’d lied about positions he’s held in the practice of law, or having a law degree, that would probably be a material fact.

382
Alephnaught  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:00:01am
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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:00:20am

re: #374 Hecuba’s daughter

Many of these people have no problem with those belonging to other traditional religions; they believe that you can have a moral compass only if you believe in G-d. Most of us don’t share that view — but there are many who still do

yup
and i just said not your church
i didnt mention any religions
not your church is everybody else
anyone makes an assumption, it’s on them.
aint i clever? ;-)

384
jaunte  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:00:31am

re: #381 KGxvi

It is a protected trademark, so maybe that could come into play.

385
KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:00:48am

re: #380 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Without context, I can’t tell whether McCaskil’s attacking or defending. E.g. “I’m a little confused why she’s become every right-winger’s nightmare.” After all, she’s far from the only progressive in the last election.

From the article:

“She’s now talked about a lot,” McCaskill said of the 29-year-old. “I’m not sure what she’s done yet to generate that kind of enthusiasm, but I wish her well. I hope she hangs the moon.”

“The rhetoric is cheap,” she added. “Getting results is a lot harder.”

The two-term Democratic senator also warned Ocasio-Cortez not to ignore the plight of white working-class voters who have distanced themselves from the Democratic Party in recent years.

“I hope she also realizes that the parts of the country that are rejecting the Democratic Party, like a whole lot of white working-class voters, need to hear about how their work is going to be respected, and the dignity of their jobs, and how we can really stick to issues that we can actually accomplish something on,” McCaskill said.

It’s, I think, a generational thing, mostly.

386
dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:01:11am

re: #375 jaunte

Since that CV was submitted in an application for a federal job,
the lie was a felony under 18 U.S.C. 1001.

think he’ll recuse himself from his own investigation?

387
jaunte  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:02:32am

re: #386 dangerman

If the rest of Trump’s gang are any guide, he’ll be allowed to revise his initial lie.

388
Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:03:28am
389
jaunte  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:04:27am

Nice to see the Trump draft-dodging story break big just as he’s rumored to be visiting the troops to take some of the heat off.

390
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:04:46am

re: #374 Hecuba’s daughter

Many of these people have no problem with those belonging to other traditional religions; they believe that you can have a moral compass only if you believe in G-d. Most of us don’t share that view — but there are many who still do

Yup. I’ve never done anything as far as I am aware which might be construed as “immoral.” And it’s not like I go round the town on Saturdays knocking on doors preaching the Gospel of Nothing either.

(2:42)

John Safran Vs God - Atheist Door Knockers

391
jaunte  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:05:38am

More on Whitaker:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:06:29am
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KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:09:19am

re: #390 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

Yup. I’ve never done anything as far as I am aware which might be construed as “immoral.” And it’s not like I go round the town on Saturdays knocking on doors preaching the Gospel of Nothing either.

(2:42)

[Embedded content]

Depends on your definition of “immoral”, I suppose:

The Simpsons - Just About Everything Is a Sin

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:14:47am

re: #362 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Maybe it’s because I’m on the outside, but the reason she’s in the news is obvious: the GOP wants to paint the Democrats as socialists. And as for your concern about whites that have left the party, the reason we can’t have nice things is that those whites think we should only take care of them, and as long as we entertain that idea, we can’t take care of anyone.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:16:08am

The market seems to be up a small amount.
NYSE Composite
11,000.76
up 230.94 2.14%
marketwatch.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:18:27am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:18:32am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:19:59am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:20:03am

HERE IT IS==>
Dirt Dart by 4 seconds!

400
Charles Johnson  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:23:58am
401
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:28:45am

Reuters is reporting Donald and Melania Trump are in Iraq.

pictures.reuters.com

U.S. President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump greet military personnel at the dining facility during an unannounced visit to Al Asad Air Base, Iraq December 26, 2018. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:28:50am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

Surprise…. even though there were people noticing that Trump was radio-silent for most of the day, the presidential airwing was missing a significant asset, and spotters found it flying towards the Middle East.

It’s clear that Trump had to be shamed into visiting the troops - to use them as a prop - all while propping up his corrupt admin.

Those same soldiers know that Trump’s undermined their ongoing mission, and made it harder for the US to work with people who would be open to working with the US in the future. This is Trump at his worst, but typical for Trump - using the troops as disposable heroes. The moment he gets back on AF1, he’ll forget about them, and continue to undermine our national security.

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lawhawk  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:29:48am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:30:36am

re: #402 lawhawk

Those same soldiers know that Trump’s undermined their ongoing mission, and made it harder for the US to work with people who would be open to working with the US in the future. This is Trump at his worst, but typical for Trump - using the troops as disposable heroes. The moment he gets back on AF1, he’ll forget about them, and continue to undermine our national security.

How is this different than any other Republican?

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:32:45am

re: #404 Anymouse 🌹

How is this different than any other Republican?

You mean like Eisenhower?

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:35:17am

Talking heads so desperate to grasp at any positive straw about Trump that he’ll get hugely undeserved praise for this obviously self-interested action.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:35:50am

Lemon Meringue pie or Pecan pie?

408
KGxvi  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:37:23am

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Lemon Meringue pie or Pecan pie?

Nah, I made flan, instead.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:40:03am

re: #405 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

You mean like Eisenhower?

I was an infant when Eisenhower was president. Had he not run as a Republican, the party was in danger of collapsing.

Since then, not so much.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 26, 2018 • 11:44:30am

Here she goes:

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MsJ  Dec 26, 2018 • 12:21:34pm
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dangerman  Dec 26, 2018 • 1:35:54pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Lemon Meringue pie or Pecan pie?

porque no los dos?


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