Report: Another Key Piece of the Steele Dossier Is Corroborated

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We don’t have independent confirmation of this report yet, but today in McClatchy: Michael Cohen’s cell phone briefly activated near Prague around time of purported Russia meeting.

If this pans out, it will corroborate one more piece of information in the now-famous dossier on Donald Trump’s Russian connections compiled by British intelligence officer Christopher Steele. Trump and his cronies frequently call the dossier a “fake,” a “hoax” and “a pile of garbage,” but to date, none of the information in this document has been disproven — and many of the most important parts have been shown to be accurate.

WASHINGTON — A mobile phone traced to President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen briefly sent signals ricocheting off cell towers in the Prague area in late summer 2016, at the height of the presidential campaign, leaving an electronic record to support claims that Cohen met secretly there with Russian officials, four people with knowledge of the matter say.

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 27, 2018 • 10:49:16am

You can’t spell Prague with “P”

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 10:53:05am
John Solomon was recently moved to the Opinion section of The Hill after being repeatedly criticized by his colleagues for leaving out inconvenient details in his stories, such as the fact that Lisa Page and Peter Strzok were highly critical of Hillary Clinton in their personal texts. So who better to massage Rudy’s rantings into a coherent narrative that promotes the batshit theory that Robert Mueller personally deleted Page and Strzok’s personal messages because he was OMG, HIDING SOMETHING!

wonkette.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 10:54:51am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 10:59:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:01:56am
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Jay C  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:05:09am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DJIA down 540 at 2:00, iow given up half of yesterday’s record gain…

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:07:49am

re: #6 Jay C

DJIA down 540 at 2:00, iow given up half of yesterday’s record gain…

You really get the feeling that the market does not know what it wants to do. And if there’s a crash/recession, I feel like it’s going to be 1000 times worse with Trump constantly tweet blaming everyone else for it.

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:07:51am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:08:25am

re: #7 KGxvi

You really get the feeling that the market does not know what it wants to do. And if there’s a crash/recession, I feel like it’s going to be 1000 times worse with Trump constantly tweet blaming everyone else for it.

The market’s down because Trump is home and back on Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:11:11am
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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:11:20am

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

The market’s down because Trump is home and back on Twitter.

There’s probably some truth to that, but we’ve also see the market whipsaw for the last year or so. Investors/businesses either haven’t adapted to Trump or the economy is starting to overheat a bit (which seems to be the Fed’s read, thus their moves on interest rates). If the economy slows and the market takes a sustained hit, Trump’s lack of impulse control and general stupidity is going to make things much worse than they’d be with someone who wasn’t, well, Trump.

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garzooma  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:12:23am

re: #8 jaunte

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Note the sourcing in Cohen-in-Prague report:

“FOUR people spoke with McClatchy on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of information shared by their foreign intelligence connections.

Definitely a big deal, but I’d like to see another news organization confirming this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:14:42am
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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:20:31am

Just a reminder, when Trump says we need the Artisan Steel Slats to stop the evil drugs from coming in, he’s also responsible for this:

The Coast Guard is the only branch of the military directly affected by the partial shutdown that began Saturday because it’s funded through the Department of Homeland Security. The other branches receive their money through Department of Defense appropriations, which were signed into law in September.

With the DHS funding lapsed, roughly 44,000 active-duty Coast Guard members will be working without paychecks until Congress and the White House reach a deal to reopen the government and provide back pay.

Another 6,000 Coast Guard employees are being furloughed, according to DHS guidance. That means they won’t be working and any pay for the shutdown period would have to come retroactively, through an act of Congress.

The Coast Guard stops a lot of drug smuggling since there is a lot more coastline than border. Also, who thought it was a good idea to move a branch of the military to DHS instead of the DoD? (I still really dislike DHS and think that all the agencies within it should be moved back to their old Departments, but I think that ship has sailed)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:21:15am

re: #1 bd(Redacted)

You can’t spell Prague with “P”

Same goes for Prison.

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:21:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:21:32am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:22:01am

Predicting as much as twenty inches of snow in Valentine. We’re in the 4-6 area.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:22:24am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

She probably got a “not on the lips” clause in the pre-nup

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:24:21am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:24:23am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looking at that photo of Trump, I can’t help but notice that he’s ballooned in weight since he took office.

He was tubby before, but he’s pretty much obese now. He’s gotta be doing some big-time nervous eating.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:24:40am

re: #19 KGxvi

She probably got a “not on the lips” clause in the pre-nup

I’m still staring at the death grip he has on her arm

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:25:17am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:25:17am

re: #7 KGxvi

You really get the feeling that the market does not know what it wants to do. And if there’s a crash/recession, I feel like it’s going to be 1000 times worse with Trump constantly tweet blaming everyone else for it.

The market is chaotic because the country is chaotic and the country is chaotic because the government is chaotic.

And no one that can do anything about it has chosen to do so.

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:26:48am

Lurking Trump can’t let the pregnant model be the sole star of her own fantasy portrait.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:27:18am

Reminder:

The Steele Dossier is a collection of raw data points. It’s the data, and was meant to identify patterns, and prepare a detailed analysis. It is not the analysis itself.

So far, most of the raw data points have been corroborated. Some of the points raised in the dossier are still open to further analysis, pending further actual data.

But by and large, the dossier points to Russia’s sway and influence of multiple persons within Trumpworld. It points to the connections and the subsequent lies by Trumpworld to cover up those connections. The lies themselves also show just how much Trumpworld has to lose by seeing those connections revealed.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:28:23am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

It’s a photo from 2006. It’s not like she’s doing such a photo shoot as First Lady. And even if she was, why exactly is it something we should care about?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:28:30am

re: #14 KGxvi

Just a reminder, when Trump says we need the Artisan Steel Slats to stop the evil drugs from coming in, he’s also responsible for this:

The Coast Guard stops a lot of drug smuggling since there is a lot more coastline than border. Also, who thought it was a good idea to move a branch of the military to DHS instead of the DoD? (I still really dislike DHS and think that all the agencies within it should be moved back to their old Departments, but I think that ship has sailed)

The Coast Guard is only part of the military during wartime. It was moved from the Department of Commerce to DHS.

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MsJ  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:28:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:30:18am

re: #27 KGxvi

It’s a photo from 2006. It’s not like she’s doing such a photo shoot as First Lady. And even if she was, why exactly is it something we should care about?

again, imagine the reaction if Michelle had appeared in a photo shoot like that at any time in her past.

Or if Obama had five children by three different wives, one of whom worked illegally in the US on a tourist visa, etc…

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:31:40am

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

The market is chaotic because the country is chaotic and the country is chaotic because the government is chaotic.

And no one that can do anything about it has chosen to do so.

The market’s whipsawing back and forth because of conflicting data points and inputs.

Trump’s tax scam hasn’t goosed the economy (down).
Businesses still seeing record profits (up)
Workers wages stagnant or declining (down).
Unemployment rates (up and down)
Need for correction after runup (down).
Trump statements attacking Fed chair … that he picked (way down).
Mnuchin trying to calm markets (still more down than up).
Bargain hunting (up).

Back and forth we go, and the trick isn’t to focus as much on the point totals, but the percentage moves since as the market has gone higher, the gains and losses appear bigger (hence 1000 point gain), but that doesn’t represent nearly as much on a percentage gain as say 500 points from a few years ago.

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MsJ  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:31:49am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still staring at the death grip he has on her arm

Standing on his own two tubby little legs probably can’t last for more than a few minutes without help.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:31:59am

are these the same government workers who told him to keep the government shut down until the wall gets built?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:33:27am

Good time to re-watch this BBC documentary.

The Wall Street Crash

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:33:32am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, imagine the reaction if Michelle had appeared in a photo shoot like that at any time in her past.

Or if Obama had five children by three different wives, one of whom worked illegally in the US on a tourist visa, etc…

Yeah, there’s a double standard for Rs and Ds. But again their hang ups are their hang ups, acting like it’s somehow scandalous only feeds their hypocrisy. Treat it like the nothingburger it is, don’t let their hang ups become your hang ups.

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MsJ  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:33:37am

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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are these the same government workers who told him to keep the government shut down until the wall gets built?

No, those are the imaginary ones he has floating around his addled mind.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:34:15am

re: #27 KGxvi

It’s a photo from 2006. It’s not like she’s doing such a photo shoot as First Lady. And even if she was, why exactly is it something we should care about?

The only reason I care is that it’s just more evidence what garbage people they are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:35:29am
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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:36:58am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

The only reason I care is that it’s just more evidence what garbage people they are.

That’s a fair point. But Trump’s been a “celebrity” for most all of my life. And through out that time he’s repeatedly demonstrated that he’s a garbage person. He has no redeeming qualities and likely never has.

I just don’t see the point in attacking Melania for a photo shoot she did, as a professional model, while pregnant.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:38:09am

Meanwhile Lord Privy Seal Jared and Princess Royal Ivanka are partying at Mar A Lardo…

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MsJ  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:41:04am

re: #27 KGxvi

It’s a photo from 2006. It’s not like she’s doing such a photo shoot as First Lady. And even if she was, why exactly is it something we should care about?

Because I appreciate some decorum from our supposed First Lady?

Because I am really fucking tired of the double standard that this whore can do whateverthefuck she wants (including fucking a married man) and modeling completely in the raw but Michelle Obama had bare arms!

Sorry, not sorry. It matters and I care.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:41:07am

LOL, no.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:41:23am

Meanwhile, the Iraqis apparently don’t want Trump there either:

That visit and the US troop presence were denounced on Thursday by parliament members, major Iraqi political parties and key players in the current Iraqi government.

“Trump should know that Iraq is not an American state and Iraqi prime minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi should bear responsibility,” Iraqi lawmaker Faleh al-Khazali said in a statement.

“We demand all US troops to leave Iraq and Iraqi government should consider them as occupiers.”

Ahmed al-Assadi, another Iraqi lawmaker, said that “the demand for the withdrawal of American forces has become a basic requirement that must be implemented as soon as possible.”

I’m sure Trump will have a reasoned and thoughtful response to this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:43:07am

re: #35 KGxvi

Yeah, there’s a double standard for Rs and Ds. But again their hang ups are their hang ups, acting like it’s somehow scandalous only feeds their hypocrisy. Treat it like the nothingburger it is, don’t let their hang ups become your hang ups.

I have long stopped asking “What if Obama had done X?”

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:44:39am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:48:34am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

The only reason I care is that it’s just more evidence what garbage people they are.

I don’t care about Melania Trump doing nude photo shoots (or anyone else for that matter).

I care about the conservative hypocrisy surrounding that. “It’s okay if our team does it, God forgives us.”

Went to the general store: Boom the snow is dumping on us now. It’s also frickin’ cold out there.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:50:09am

He knows this because when he tries to leach wifi for his phone he sees ‘FBI Surveillance Van’ in the list.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:50:11am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, imagine the reaction if Michelle had appeared in a photo shoot like that at any time in her past.

Or if Obama had five children by three different wives, one of whom worked illegally in the US on a tourist visa, etc…

The wingnuts had a whole array of fake, bullshit memes they spammed everywhere, such as Anne Dunham’s head Photoshopped on a 60’s porn model, Obama’s face Photoshopped on some German guy’s 1998 Columbia ID.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:51:41am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have long stopped asking “What if Obama had done X?”

They’re going to complain about almost anything a Democratic president (or nominee) has done in their life; and when that doesn’t work, they’ll complain about things their spouse did. And all the while, they’ll excuse their own side.

It’s stupid and petty. But that’s what the GOP has become, stupid and petty. The only people who buy it are the true believers who want to believe it. Better to just point and laugh at their fauxrage and move on to important things. Let them wallow in their own shallow pools of stupid and petty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:51:42am

found his phone:

still a moron

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:53:12am

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

found his phone:

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still a moron

Who are the 350 people he is referring to?

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:53:59am

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

Who are the 350 people he is referring to?

Probably appointments that he hasn’t made and/or haven’t produced their required financial disclosures?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:54:27am

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

Who are the 350 people he is referring to?

I’m guessing judge and other nominations that need Senate approval

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fern01  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:54:46am

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

found his phone:

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still a moron

Still lying

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:55:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:56:13am
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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:56:42am

Mar a Lago… here he comes?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:57:45am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 11:57:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:00:05pm

re: #57 lawhawk

Mar a Lago… here he comes?

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at 2 am Eastern?

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:01:07pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Why am I just realizing that the acronym for Artisanal Steel Slats is ASS?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:02:10pm

re: #47 Single-handed sailor

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He knows this because when he tries to leach wifi for his phone he sees ‘FBI Surveillance Van’ in the list.

I hope some folks are pranking him with those black vans!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:02:43pm

re: #27 KGxvi

It’s a photo from 2006. It’s not like she’s doing such a photo shoot as First Lady. And even if she was, why exactly is it something we should care about?

If it was a Democratic First Lady, she would be demonized by the Right. Do I care about the fact that the current First Lady has a colorful past?
NOPE. But there is nothing wrong with pointing out how Michelle Obama was demonized for showing her bare arms but Melania is idolized for the Right despite showing much more than that. Hypocrisy should be noted.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:03:45pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Republicans prefer a racist bigot, so?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:05:28pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Chaos, chaos everywhere.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:06:42pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mark Steyn describing his latest Penthouse Letter fantasy….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:08:55pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:10:15pm

Blizzard Warnings now going up from the Canadian border through Nebraska.

I guess I’ll stay home today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:10:45pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:11:31pm

“He’s right behind me, isn’t he.”

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:11:51pm

Letting the days go by, special counsel finds me out
Letting the days go by, money laundered underground
Pleading with Vlad again after the money’s gone
Once in a lifetime, money laundered underground

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sagehen  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:11:58pm

re: #8 jaunte

Note the sourcing in Cohen-in-Prague report:

“FOUR people spoke with McClatchy on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of information shared by their foreign intelligence connections. Each obtained their information INDEPENDENTLY from foreign intelligence connections.”

yeah, but… did each obtain their info from the SAME foreign intelligence agency?

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Semper Fi  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:12:31pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile Lord Privy Seal Jared and Princess Royal Ivanka are partying at Mar A Lardo…

Upding for Lardo…

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:13:47pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crisis pregnancy centers need to be sued out of existence. That woman likely has a claim for at least four or five causes of action that I can think of off the top of my head: negligence, fraud, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:14:03pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

“He’s right behind me, isn’t he.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:15:29pm

re: #71 jaunte

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Letting the days go by, special counsel finds me out
Letting the days go by, money laundered underground
Pleading with Vlad again after the money’s gone
Once in a lifetime, money laundered underground

Oh my he’s plumping up like a Ball Park Frank!

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:15:51pm

re: #74 KGxvi

Crisis pregnancy centers need to be sued out of existence. That woman likely has a claim for at least four or five causes of action that I can think of off the top of my head: negligence, fraud, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress.

Medical malpractice. And under the circumstances, punitive damages could be awarded given that it was purposeful and with malice. They were actively lying to this woman to prevent her from seeking competent medical care in a timely fashion, and their statements undermined her care from that point forward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:19:52pm
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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:23:09pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That woman is vile.

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sagehen  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:24:42pm

re: #74 KGxvi

Crisis pregnancy centers need to be sued out of existence. That woman likely has a claim for at least four or five causes of action that I can think of off the top of my head: negligence, fraud, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress.

Practicing medicine without a license is a criminal offense.

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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:25:11pm

re: #79 makeitstop

Her husband is too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:26:00pm

for the tool nerds here:

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:26:47pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

snopes.com
@snopes
Mom-to-be Melania Trump, 34, was wearing gold body paint for this Annie Leibovitz portrait.

Good to know Trump was doing photoshoots while Melania was preggers.

I wonder when he had the time to bang Stormy?

I guess he was a busy guy.

And despite being a dirtbag, he managed to get elected President. Ugh.

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calochortus  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:29:37pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

for the tool nerds here:

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I understand wanting to take a hammer to your car-I mean, who hasn’t wanted to at some point? But why would you need a nail lifter? That seems an unlikely thing for a Model T toolkit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:30:11pm

re: #84 calochortus

I understand wanting to take a hammer to your car-I mean, who hasn’t wanted to at some point? But why would you need a nail lifter? That seems an unlikely thing for a Model T toolkit.

tire punctures?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:30:29pm

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, imagine the reaction if Michelle had appeared in a photo shoot like that at any time in her past.

Or if Obama had five children by three different wives, one of whom worked illegally in the US on a tourist visa, etc…

Points to the serious hack gap between the GOP and the Democrats. There are lots of rightwing hacks eager to go apoplectic on almost anything a Democratic President or nominee does, even picayune stuff, whereas Democratic pundits tend to focus on real issues, and to the extent they comment on this stuff, its to note the hypocrisy of rightwing hacks. Obviously if such a photo of Michelle Obama had existed in 2008, it would’ve dominated the news, starting with the massive fit Fox News would’ve thrown.

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calochortus  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:31:19pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

tire punctures?

Yeah, but once the tire has deflated a bit, wouldn’t you want pliers to grip the head, not something to pry it with?

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:31:45pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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are these the same government workers who told him to keep the government shut down until the wall gets built?

Trump is an artist. He works in mixed media. A lie for you and a lie against you. All bases covered.

In other words, and as we have seen repeatedly, he can’t remember what he said a minute ago and sometimes from the beginning to the end of one of his crazy-ass sentences.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:33:28pm
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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:34:18pm

re: #84 calochortus

I understand wanting to take a hammer to your car-I mean, who hasn’t wanted to at some point? But why would you need a nail lifter? That seems an unlikely thing for a Model T toolkit.

Most of the body was wooden. I believe it had wooden spkes at least for part of the time it was in production.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:34:36pm

re: #39 KGxvi

That’s a fair point. But Trump’s been a “celebrity” for most all of my life. And through out that time he’s repeatedly demonstrated that he’s a garbage person. He has no redeeming qualities and likely never has.

I just don’t see the point in attacking Melania for a photo shoot she did, as a professional model, while pregnant.

Who is attacking? I don’t see an attack, I see people commenting on the strangeness of the Trumps.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:35:18pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

Uhhh, haven’t they been sinking it for most of this month??

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:35:51pm

re: #87 calochortus

Yeah, but once the tire has deflated a bit, wouldn’t you want pliers to grip the head, not something to pry it with?

I was just making a wild guess.
It just looks like some sort of old-timey multi-tool to me.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:36:17pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

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Just when he’s finally Presidential….//

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:37:58pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

“He’s right behind me, isn’t he.”

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What a pretty kitty!

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calochortus  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:38:41pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was just making a wild guess.
It just looks like some sort of old-timey multi-tool to me.

Well, I’m not a tool expert either. I’ll go with “old-timey multi-tool” too. I just don’t necessarily believe some guy at a flea market.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:42:34pm

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

Uhhh, haven’t they been sinking it for most of this month??

The stock market has been sinking, but the real economy is still churning out jobs. Today’s report on initial unemployment claims remains near a 49 year low.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:42:44pm

re: #49 KGxvi

They’re going to complain about almost anything a Democratic president (or nominee) has done in their life; and when that doesn’t work, they’ll complain about things their spouse did. And all the while, they’ll excuse their own side.

It’s stupid and petty. But that’s what the GOP has become, stupid and petty. The only people who buy it are the true believers who want to believe it. Better to just point and laugh at their fauxrage and move on to important things. Let them wallow in their own shallow pools of stupid and petty.

Their petty bullshit is important. It brought us Trump.

If it is so insignificant, how did so many fall for his act and go on to excuse all this petty bullshit and vote the Big Orange Boob into office? And how does a whole party excuse it all and support him?

You seem to be on a bit of magic balance fairy track. I guess there are a lot of true believers…more than you seem to count.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:44:22pm

(with video)

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calochortus  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:45:34pm

Oh look. Mr. C. is ready to go run some errands with me. I’d best go get ready.
BBL

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:48:06pm

Hey everyone…thought I’d Czech in…Czech in…get it? I kill…

Meanwhile, in seriously crazy town…

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:50:19pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let me get this straight: Trump wants the federal court to postpone indefinitely hearing a case claiming that he is illegally profiting from his Washington hotel, because the government shutdown, created by Trump, prohibits his attorneys from working.politico.com

— Robert Reich (@RBReich) December 27, 2018

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:52:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:53:16pm

meanwhile in NC

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:53:51pm

re: #102 TedStriker

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Trump now has a vested interest in keeping the government shut down indefinitely. That’s not good.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:55:49pm

re: #84 calochortus

I understand wanting to take a hammer to your car-I mean, who hasn’t wanted to at some point? But why would you need a nail lifter? That seems an unlikely thing for a Model T toolkit.

Do you realize how much wood was used on a Model T?

The entire floorboard, a lot of the slats that formed doors and roof, etc. Maybe it was for pulling a fastener (nail) that was working loose, etc. so you wouldn’t catch your shoes, clothes, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:57:11pm

O_o

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:57:37pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:58:42pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in NC

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Legal election fraud. Fuck me.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 12:59:21pm

re: #108 Patricia Kayden

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Because Cenk is like Sirota: He has a vested interest in seeing Bernie become the nominee or, at the very least, cause so much division that he can get traffic reporting upon such.

The hilarity is the Bros are seeing this conspiracy within the press to attack Bernie, the same press they absolutely loved when it was going after Hillary.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:02:23pm

re: #108 Patricia Kayden

Of course it’s going to be difficult for him to hold onto support. In 2016 he was the Not Hillary in a historically small field. 2020 is shaping up to be a much bigger field, meaning he’s going to have to be something beyond Not Hillary. And I don’t think he’s going to be able to be that. Plus, this isn’t like the GOP where the nomination is likely to go to “the next in line.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:03:13pm

re: #111 KGxvi

Of course it’s going to be difficult for him to hold onto support. In 2016 he was the Not Hillary in a historically small field. 2020 is shaping up to be a much bigger field, meaning he’s going to have to be something beyond Not Hillary. And I don’t think he’s going to be able to be that. Plus, this isn’t like the GOP where the nomination is likely to go to “the next in line.”

LOLWUT

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:03:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:03:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:03:51pm

The partial government shutdown is expected to drag on for at least several more days, with House GOP leaders saying Thursday they do not expect a vote this week to reopen the government.

On day six of the shutdown, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) advised members “that no votes are expected in the House this week.”

“As the House awaits Senate action on remaining FY19 appropriations, we will aim to provide 24 hours’ notice ahead of any expected votes in the House,” Scalise’s office added in a notice.

The Senate was scheduled to convene at 4 p.m. on Thursday, but no votes were expected until President Trump and congressional Democrats reach a deal to end the funding lapse that is affecting about 25 percent of the federal government.

Little progress has been made in negotiations as Democratic lawmakers and the White House remain at odds over funding for Trump’s proposed border wall.

“No end in sight to the President’s government shutdown,” Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) tweeted on Thursday. “He’s taken our government hostage over his outrageous demand for a $5 billion border wall that would be both wasteful and ineffective.”

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Democratic leaders have said they won’t go beyond $1.3 billion in annual funding for border fencing.

The White House has floated $2.1 billion, which was rejected by Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) last week.

The probability of the House now waiting to act until Jan. 3, when Democrats take control of the lower chamber, appears increasingly likely.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:05:09pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:05:28pm

re: #111 KGxvi

Of course it’s going to be difficult for him to hold onto support. In 2016 he was the Not Hillary in a historically small field. 2020 is shaping up to be a much bigger field, meaning he’s going to have to be something beyond Not Hillary. And I don’t think he’s going to be able to be that. Plus, this isn’t like the GOP where the nomination is likely to go to “the next in line.”

Not to mention Bernie relied totally on the public’s total lack of familiarity with him and his beliefs to get as far as he did. In a larger ‘20 field, he’s not going to have that anonymity, but he is going to have a lot of baggage to deal with. Hell, all one of them has to do to tree him is ask him for his tax returns.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:05:45pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

The Republican nomination almost always goes to the guy who is considered “next in line.” Not always, 2000 and 2016 were exceptions. But Reagan won in 80 after losing the nomination in ‘76. Then it was GHWB in ‘88 (lost nomination in ‘80, was VP pick). In ‘96 it was Dole by default (Senate Majority leader, former VP nominee). ‘08 was McCain’s turn (lost nomination in 2000), ‘12 was Romney’s turn (lost nomination in ‘08).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:06:25pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:07:14pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

And the US economy sinking would, in turn, sink the rest of the global economy as well. China isn’t looking so hot right now and things are slowing down in the EU (that’s not even taking Brexit into account).

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:07:54pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The House GOP just want the excuse of not being the ones in charge when the bill gets passed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:08:26pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:09:24pm

Remember folks - knowing is half the battle…….

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:10:43pm

Jill’s scared of…something.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:10:49pm

re: #118 KGxvi

The Republican nomination almost always goes to the guy who is considered “next in line.” Not always, 2000 and 2016 were exceptions. But Reagan won in 80 after losing the nomination in ‘76. Then it was GHWB in ‘88 (lost nomination in ‘80, was VP pick). In ‘96 it was Dole by default (Senate Majority leader, former VP nominee). ‘08 was McCain’s turn (lost nomination in 2000), ‘12 was Romney’s turn (lost nomination in ‘08).

There wasn’t really a next in line in 2016. Ryan, the ‘12 VP nominee who might be considered the closest thing to a “next in line” didn’t run. If anyone in the Democratic field is a “next in line” its Biden. Democrats do often actually do that; Gore in 2000, Mondale in ‘84, Humphrey in ‘68. We’ll see if Biden gets the nomination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:11:15pm

“nude selfie”…the mind boggles…

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:11:34pm

re: #117 Targetpractice

Not to mention Bernie relied totally on the public’s total lack of familiarity with him and his beliefs to get as far as he did. In a larger ‘20 field, he’s not going to have that anonymity, but he is going to have a lot of baggage to deal with. Hell, all one of them has to do to tree him is ask him for his tax returns.

Yeah, the dynamics of a small field with a clear frontrunner and a wide field with no clear frontrunner are completely different. Sanders isn’t going to be considered in frontrunner in 2020, either, so he’s not going to have that media advantage. Nor is he someone that is going to generate wide support - he might generate deep support, but it’s going to be from a narrow part of the electorate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:12:18pm

LOLWUT?

Dow Gains 139 Points as Stocks Make Like Rocky Balboa and Get Up Off the Mat (Barron’s, yes they wrote that headline).

As they note in their article, your retirement fund if it’s based on stocks is entirely slaved to computer program trading. Good luck with that. (As I’ve noted before, the stock market solely exists to extract wealth from the middle class for the rich. If you make money and are middle class, it’s sort of like winning the lottery - but the lottery is not rigged.)

Have fun with the SEC no longer funded either.

3:49 p.m. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is doing its best Rocky Balboa impersonation as it turns a beatdown into victory.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average had been down more than 600 points at around 2:30 p.m. today, and then it decided to get up off the mat. The blue-chip benchmark has risen 139.41 points, or 0.6% to 23,017.86, while the S&P 500 has ticked up 0.4% to 2,477.29, and the Nasdaq Composite is off 0.1% at 6547.52.

Is there a reason for the rally? Heck no, as long as you mean a headline or piece of news of some sort that caused it to rally. Instead, the Dow tumbled to near Monday’s opening price, and then it was as if the machines kicked on. Maybe they did.

(more)

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:12:39pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“nude selfie”…the mind boggles…

Sounds like a Roger Stone move.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:13:41pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

By Odin’s beard, it’s a Trump dick pic, isn’t it?

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:16:07pm

re: #125 NO SMOCKING GUN!

There wasn’t really a next in line in 2016. Ryan, the ‘12 VP nominee who might be considered the closest thing to a “next in line” didn’t run. If anyone in the Democratic field is a “next in line” its Biden. Democrats do often actually do that; Gore in 2000, Mondale in ‘84, Humphrey in ‘68. We’ll see if Biden gets the nomination.

‘68 was screwy because it was sort of the last of the old primaries and first of the new primaries. Plus, Kennedy’s assassination probably complicated things. ‘84 almost saw Mondale beaten by Hart. 2000 is probably the best example of a Democratic next in line nomination - Gore’s only challenger was Bradley, in what seemed like a token campaign from the beginning.

Tweety has the line that “Democrats want to fall in love, Republicans fall in line.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:16:29pm

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

By Odin’s beard, it’s a Trump dick pic, isn’t it?

I’m with jaunte…sounds like Roger Stone

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:17:02pm

could also be Manafort.

eeewww

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BeachDem  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:18:20pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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From my friend in Columbus:

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freetoken  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:18:27pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

It’s end of year profit taking, then followed by people looking for bargains.

While I still think preachers and real estate sales/flippers are the worst elements of our accepted society, financial writers are close.

On any given day, for any movement in a commodity, such as gold, you can find conflicting headlines trying to explain each and every little movement.

In the big picture, Americans have been trained to believe the equities markets are key to their happiness and security, including retirement, so we’ve built in an expectation for exponential growth (that is, z% return per year) into the very fabric of our society.

That is why the DJIA curve looks like it does, except for the serious market corrections.

The important driver is population growth, which has depended upon immigrants. Stop accepting immigrants… and the economy will not grow as much.

Contrary to the xenophobic bigots’ beliefs.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:18:43pm

re: #131 KGxvi

Although, I’ll add that both of Hillary Clinton’s runs in 2008 and in 2016 could be viewed as “next in line” campaigns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:19:13pm

also, as if the lawyers haven’t already “shared sensitive government information” with the Russians…*insert serious eyeroll*

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:20:20pm

re: #131 KGxvi

‘68 was screwy because it was sort of the last of the old primaries and first of the new primaries. Plus, Kennedy’s assassination probably complicated things. ‘84 almost saw Mondale beaten by Hart. 2000 is probably the best example of a Democratic next in line nomination - Gore’s only challenger was Bradley, in what seemed like a token campaign from the beginning.

Tweety has the line that “Democrats want to fall in love, Republicans fall in line.”

True, but its hard not to see ‘16 as an example of the party falling in line behind Clinton, rather than falling in love with her. True her only real challenger was Sanders, but that was because she decisively won the invisible primary.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:20:24pm

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

By Odin’s beard, it’s a Trump dick pic, isn’t it?

If it is, I want off this planet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:21:44pm

lots of executive time today

still a moron

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:22:05pm

re: #129 jaunte

Sounds like a Roger Stone move.

Also, I’d bet money that there is a Roger Stone-Jill Stein connections somewhere. As for Trump’s tweets, his phrase “desperately needed” gives away the game.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:23:21pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:24:26pm

re: #106 ObserverArt

Do you realize how much wood was used on a Model T?

The entire floorboard, a lot of the slats that formed doors and roof, etc. Maybe it was for pulling a fastener (nail) that was working loose, etc. so you wouldn’t catch your shoes, clothes, etc.

Early in mass production of the Model T, the Dodge brothers built engines under contract for the Model T.

They were puzzled by the contract’s specifications of how each engine’s wooden shipping crate was to be constructed.

On a visit to the Model T assembly plant, they saw how the shipping crates were dissembled upon arrival, and parts were used as flooring and other wood panels in the finished car.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:24:32pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh dog, it’s really going to happen, isn’t it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:25:54pm

re: #143 BeenHereAwhile

Early in mass production of the Model T, the Dodge brothers built engines under contract for the Model T.

They were puzzled by the contract’s specifications of how each engine’s wooden shipping crate was to be constructed.

On a visit to the Model T assembly plant, they saw how the shipping crates were dissembled upon arrival, and parts were used as flooring and other wood panels in the finished car.

ah, the tool makes more sense now

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:26:43pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m with jaunte…sounds like Roger Stone

That wouldn’t shock me in the slightest - I was being facetious about Trump.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:28:53pm

re: #143 BeenHereAwhile

Early in mass production of the Model T, the Dodge brothers built engines under contract for the Model T.

They were puzzled by the contract’s specifications of how each engine’s wooden shipping crate was to be constructed.

On a visit to the Model T assembly plant, they saw how the shipping crates were dissembled upon arrival, and parts were used as flooring and other wood panels in the finished car.

Henry wanted to keep the price down. Why not have the Dodge boys build the crate and factor in that cost for the wood and then Henry could use it and save a few cents.

I have never heard that story. It is a good one. I’ll have to see if my brother has heard that one. He is a Henry Ford specialist. I think he owns just about every book about Ford and Henry Ford and even goes into Firestone, Edison and others to even dig into the side characters.

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A Cranky One  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:28:54pm

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

By Odin’s beard, it’s a Trump dick pic, isn’t it?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:30:54pm
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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:33:08pm

re: #149 Patricia Kayden

They “literally stole the election” from Bernie by nominating a more popular candidate.

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freetoken  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:34:30pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:34:40pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

ah, the tool makes more sense now

Here is an image illustration that show some of the main body wood construction. It doesn’t even cover the floorboards.

Note floorBOARDS. The name came from what they were.

Ford Model T Body Wood
Ford Model T Coupe Wood Parts
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:35:03pm
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b_sharp  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:35:46pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

Here is an image illustration that show some of the main body wood construction. It doesn’t even cover the floorboards.

Note floorBOARDS. The name came from what they were.

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Jeez man, you nailed it!

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:37:47pm

re: #154 b_sharp

I’m not dead, just pining for the Fords.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:40:52pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

It would be irresponsible not to speculate wildly in this thread which Republican is compromised by these photos.

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:41:04pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:41:47pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:41:55pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I miss hearing Jemele on ESPN radio. I always like her no BS approach to sports. She offered great takes from the perspective of a woman. And she was unafraid to ask sharp questions to big egos.

ESPN blew it there, but then…ESPN. They have their issues. They got too big for their britches.

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:42:43pm
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dangerman  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:42:55pm

re: #155 jaunte

I’m not dead, just pining for the Fords.

+1
brilliantly played

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:43:23pm

re: #155 jaunte

I’m not dead, just pining for the Fords.

made of Norwegian Blue spruce?

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:43:53pm

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

An upgrade. Would you like to spruce up that flivver?

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dangerman  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:45:08pm

re: #160 jaunte

Cohen denies today’s rumor that he visited Prague in 2016.

well, apparently, your phone did

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dangerman  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:45:35pm

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

made of Norwegian Blue spruce?

beautiful plumage

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:45:57pm

White oak!

Just ask the Brits.

Good enough for Constitution…good enough for Ford.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:46:43pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:47:39pm

re: #157 jaunte

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Just the thought of FBI crime lab workers playing Match The Ding Dong…

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freetoken  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:48:11pm

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just the thought of FBI crime lab workers playing Match The Ding Dong…

Certainly there is software to do this… no?

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:48:36pm

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

E-Sausage Fest 2018.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:49:18pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:49:56pm

re: #169 freetoken

Certainly there is software to do this… no?

Heh. You said soft.

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freetoken  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:50:10pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Given modern tracking of international travel, with passport databases being shared for terrorism reasons, it seems to me it ought to be possible to find out if Cohen went to Europe during the period in question.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:50:30pm

re: #170 jaunte

E-VIENNA Sausage Fest 2018.

FIFY

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:50:56pm

re: #174 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well, it’s reasonably near Prague.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:52:17pm

re: #173 freetoken

Given modern tracking of international travel, with passport databases being shared for terrorism reasons, it seems to me it ought to be possible to find out if Cohen went to Europe during the period in question.

he may not have needed to show a passport; he also had more than one passport

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:53:17pm

re: #173 freetoken

Given modern tracking of international travel, with passport databases being shared for terrorism reasons, it seems to me it ought to be possible to find out if Cohen went to Europe during the period in question.

He admits to going to Austria. He denied going to the Czech Republic, showing a copy of his (closed) passport on social media as proof.

The EU does not require a passport check between Austria and the Czech Republic. His claim was immediately called out as bull, but the point of the claim was for conservatives who don’t know any better.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:53:30pm

re: #159 ObserverArt

I miss hearing Jemele on ESPN radio. I always like her no BS approach to sports. She offered great takes from the perspective of a woman. And she was unafraid to ask sharp questions to big egos.

ESPN blew it there, but then…ESPN. They have their issues. They got too big for their britches.

ESPN’s problem is that they haven’t be able to decide if they’re going to be a journalistic entity or an entertainment entity. I remember up until the mid-90s, when I was in high school, most of the “sports” that the showed was filler - things like bowling, lumberjack competitions, darts, that sort of thing - between news broadcasts like Sportscenter or analysis shows where they did real analysis. They might have the occasional baseball game or whathaveyou, but mostly they were a source of sports news. Then they started getting into these “partnerships” with various leagues, both pro and collegiate. And the thing about being a “partner” is that you have a fiduciary duty to your partners to not hurt the partnership. So a lot of their news/analysis shows became more opinion/entertainment. But they’d try to straddle the line between journalism and entertainment and it’d almost always blow up in their face.

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:53:31pm

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just the thought of FBI crime lab workers playing Match The Ding Dong…

re: #169 freetoken

Certainly there is software to do this… no?

Sure, they can adapt the program they usually use for junk emails…..

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:53:51pm

re: #173 freetoken

Given modern tracking of international travel, with passport databases being shared for terrorism reasons, it seems to me it ought to be possible to find out if Cohen went to Europe during the period in question.

Yeah, but once Cohen was in the EU proper, then it’s pretty much all Schengen. For example, if he flew from Rome to Prague, then he wouldn’t have to undergo passport control as it’s intra-EU travel.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:54:22pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

he may not have needed to show a passport; he also had more than one passport

Wasn’t there speculation he could have used trains to get around and his passport wouldn’t be checked say once he entered somewhere like Germany?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:55:26pm

re: #181 ObserverArt

Wasn’t there speculation he could have used trains to get around and his passport wouldn’t be checked say once he entered somewhere like Germany?

Yeah, that would be a distinct possibility.

Vienna to Prague is an easy train trip - straight shot.

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freetoken  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:55:45pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

he may not have needed to show a passport; he also had more than one passport

Everyone has to show a passport who is not part of the head of state party, no?

re: #180 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, but once Cohen was in the EU proper, then it’s pretty much all Schengen. For example, if he flew from Rome to Prague, then he wouldn’t have to undergo passport control as it’s intra-EU travel.

True, but for the important part - showing Cohen was in Europe - that should be straight forward.

If Cohen was using multiple passports then that is an additional crime, no?

I had multiple passports at one time but that is because one of them was an official (with Franklin on the cover) passport. Did Cohen have an official passport?

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nines09  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:58:16pm

Anyone who ever tried to reproduce that song you liked and something just wasn’t quite right? It wasn’t you. One chord. One song. Years of, well just listen.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:58:56pm

Whitaker and Trump are apparently turds of a feather.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:59:07pm

re: #183 freetoken

You can legally have two passports, for two different reasons.

1) Official travel. I had two when I was stationed in Spain.
2) Logistical. Some countries won’t allow people in if they have stamps from certain countries (the best example being Israel and some Arab states).

In either case, you have to provide proof to the Passport Office you need two.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 1:59:35pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

he may not have needed to show a passport; he also had more than one passport

I visited Prague in 2015 but my passport does not have a Czech Republic stamp because I entered the EU at Schiphol.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:00:02pm

re: #178 KGxvi

ESPN’s problem is that they haven’t be able to decide if they’re going to be a journalistic entity or an entertainment entity. I remember up until the mid-90s, when I was in high school, most of the “sports” that the showed was filler - things like bowling, lumberjack competitions, darts, that sort of thing - between news broadcasts like Sportscenter or analysis shows where they did real analysis. They might have the occasional baseball game or whathaveyou, but mostly they were a source of sports news. Then they started getting into these “partnerships” with various leagues, both pro and collegiate. And the thing about being a “partner” is that you have a fiduciary duty to your partners to not hurt the partnership. So a lot of their news/analysis shows became more opinion/entertainment. But they’d try to straddle the line between journalism and entertainment and it’d almost always blow up in their face.

Don’t forget, they overspent on some of those properties like drunken sailors on leave.

Being an auto racing fan, I am particularly laughing at the huge contract they signed with NASCAR that was good for NASCAR and a revenue killer for ESPN.

They couldn’t sell that off fast enough.

I understand they have done that with many of their big properties. That is why they started letting go of a lot of talent about three or so years ago. They couldn’t afford the money they were paying and others like Fox and CBS did.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:00:51pm

re: #187 The Vicious Babushka

I visited Prague in 2015 but my passport does not have a Czech Republic stamp because I entered the EU at Schiphol.

When I went to Poland I did not get a Polish stamp because I entered in Germany and took a train.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:00:59pm

re: #183 freetoken

Everyone has to show a passport who is not part of the head of state party, no?

True, but for the important part - showing Cohen was in Europe - that should be straight forward.

If Cohen was using multiple passports then that is an additional crime, no?

I had multiple passports at one time but that is because one of them was an official (with Franklin on the cover) passport. Did Cohen have an official passport?

Cohen also had an Israeli passport

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:01:50pm

Katy Tur on for Chuck on MTP. Good thing because the dog has fallen asleep on my hand and I can’t reach the remote.

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jeffreyw  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:04:36pm

re: #179 Jay C

Sure, they can adapt the program they usually use for junk emails…..

I saw that..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:06:58pm

My company gave us from the 22nd to the 2nd off, and I’ve been doing little more than relaxing, cooking, and a bit of watchmaking. It’s nice.

For Dorango fans, here’s what they’ve been up to:

Dory is well recovered from her ‘lady parts’ operation, but still has 2 more days in the Donut Collar. She’s bounding around with her usual enthusiasm. Here she is, terrorizing a leaf from the apple tree, which I’d picked off and she begged for….

Mrs. FBW and I took the Rango and Dory for a walk around the block, after which Rango and I continued on for another 2 miles. Here he is, waiting for me to take his picture and get back to the walk, for chrissakes!

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:10:02pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cohen also had an Israeli passport

His wife, according to wikipedia, is Ukrainian-born. So, would it be irresponsible to speculate that he might have acquired a Ukrainian passport somewhere along the way? It would probably be irresponsible not to speculate…

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:11:03pm

re: #150 jaunte

They “literally stole the election” from Bernie by nominating a more popular candidate.

It’s like that car a guy stole from me. Handed me my asking price in cash and drove off. The nerve.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:11:29pm

re: #194 KGxvi

His wife, according to wikipedia, is Ukrainian-born. So, would it be irresponsible to speculate that he might have acquired a Ukrainian passport somewhere along the way? It would probably be irresponsible not to speculate…

It would definitely be irresponsible not to speculate. That said, he probably couldn’t legally get a Ukrainian passport unless he was a citizen (or agent working for them).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:12:06pm

re: #194 KGxvi

His wife, according to wikipedia, is Ukrainian-born. So, would it be irresponsible to speculate that he might have acquired a Ukrainian passport somewhere along the way? It would probably be irresponsible not to speculate…

Also, anyone who is wealthy enough can buy Maltese Passport pretty easily.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:13:23pm

re: #173 freetoken

Given modern tracking of international travel, with passport databases being shared for terrorism reasons, it seems to me it ought to be possible to find out if Cohen went to Europe during the period in question.

I’m sure Mueller has seen Cohen’s passport.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:13:47pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

It would definitely be irresponsible not to speculate. That said, he probably couldn’t legally get a Ukrainian passport unless he was a citizen (or agent working for them).

Or Manafort got it for him. Who else knew the in and outs of Ukraine better than Paulie?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:18:56pm

Referring to Mark Steyn:

No chowderhead, we prefer competent candidates. Gender, religion, or ethnic background don’t matter. Dross goes to the GOP, not our party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:23:15pm

moron is fucking clueless

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:28:05pm

Afternoon Lizards. If I haven’t stated this before, I FUCKING HATE Century Link. Has been 12+ hours since they went down and counting. Am now on the laptop using my phone’s wireless hot spot mode and burning up my ATT data plan. On the plus side, was able to pick up a nice winter coat at the local Goodwill store for $21.00 bucks. Add a sweater for a another layer and it should be good down to 0 to -10. Also has a nice fleece line hood as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:29:30pm

jeebus

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:31:40pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Playing the victim and it’s not even January yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:32:57pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

Playing the victim and it’s not even January yet.

Festivus Airing of Grievances goes into overtime.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:33:30pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haven’t decided if I’m running or not, but please donate to my campaign… I need a new Cadillac.

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can't think of a decent username  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:34:03pm

Off-topic as hell, but every time I re-watch the trailer for Jordan Peele’s “Us,” I get more impressed. It’s just fantastically eerie.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:34:14pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is fucking clueless

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Yep. Hey ignores the fact they (Israel) have to routinely destroy tunnels under said fence. Just like the DEA and CPB do on our southern border.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:34:20pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is fucking clueless

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Meanwhile, in 2018, they ran on “Border Security” (aka “SCARY BROWN PEOPLE!!!”) and got taken to the cleaners.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:35:10pm

re: #208 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Yep. Hey ignores the fact they (Israel) have to routinely destroy tunnels under said fence. Just like the DEA and CPB do on our southern border.

Not only have to destroy tunnels, but have had very public and very messy fights with Egypt over tunnels being built.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:42:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:45:32pm

re: #202 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Afternoon Lizards. If I haven’t stated this before, I FUCKING HATE Century Link. Has been 12+ hours since they went down and counting. Am now on the laptop using my phone’s wireless hot spot mode and burning up my ATT data plan. On the plus side, was able to pick up a nice winter coat at the local Goodwill store for $21.00 bucks. Add a sweater for a another layer and it should be good down to 0 to -10. Also has a nice fleece line hood as well.

You and me both. Overpriced and it seems it goes down every three days.

From the Edmonton Sun:

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dangerman  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:46:25pm

re: #208 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Yep. Hey ignores the fact they (Israel) have to routinely destroy tunnels under said fence. Just like the DEA and CPB do on our southern border.

i dont know how current wiki is:

By 2012, 440 km (273.4 mi) (62%) of the barrier had been completed, 57 km (35.4 mi) (8%) was under construction and 212 km (131.7 mi) (30%) had not yet been started,[45] with little progress made by 2014.[46] In September, 2014, the government voted to not reauthorize the barrier in the Gush Etzion area.[47]

- so maybe less than 300 miles of completed wall out of an estimated total of 400 miles
- patrolled by the military

yeah. just like the united states

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:47:22pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

Not only have to destroy tunnels, but have had very public and very messy fights with Egypt over tunnels being built.

Yep. Walls don’t work. Never have. never will,

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bratwurst  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:48:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:49:49pm

re: #214 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Yep. Walls don’t work. Never have. never will,

For a wall to work, it has to be manned and monitored. For the length of our border with Mexico, that would require regiments of troops along the border, in violation of treaties and the Constitution’s III Amendment.

Additionally, it won’t stop boats from going around it on the sea.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:51:37pm

re: #214 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Yep. Walls don’t work. Never have. never will,

C’mon, they work every bit as well as tax cuts for the rich!

/////

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:53:45pm

Meanwhile, drilling down on “First Ladies Who Visited War Zones”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:54:29pm

I would suppose that Mary Lincoln visited a war zone considering that she LIVED IN ONE.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:55:14pm

re: #214 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Yep. Walls don’t work. Never have. never will,

Trump: “That won’t happen in the USA as long as Trump is around. You wanna try to start a fight over our wall, our military will take you out. You wanna try to dig under the wall, you gotta pop up somewhere around the wall and bing bang we shoot you dead. It stops with Trump. I will make America Safe Again and that makes it Great!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:56:14pm

Dolley Madison escaped from an active war zone, does that count?

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:57:24pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

I would suppose that Mary Lincoln visited a war zone considering that she LIVED IN ONE.

yeah but she was on the wrong side of that war

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:57:31pm

re: #212 Anymouse 🌹

You and me both. Overpriced and it seems it goes down every three days.

From the Edmonton Sun:

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Hmm. Looks like a situation were a pole with pointed object going into the side wall (non-repairable) of a tire or two would seem appropriate.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:58:24pm

re: #223 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Hmm. Looks like a situation were a pole with pointed object going into the side wall (non-repairable) of a tire or two would seem appropriate.

fuck vandalism, call a tow truck instead.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:58:42pm
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darthstar  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:58:53pm

re: #202 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Afternoon Lizards. If I haven’t stated this before, I FUCKING HATE Century Link. Has been 12+ hours since they went down and counting. Am now on the laptop using my phone’s wireless hot spot mode and burning up my ATT data plan. On the plus side, was able to pick up a nice winter coat at the local Goodwill store for $21.00 bucks. Add a sweater for a another layer and it should be good down to 0 to -10. Also has a nice fleece line hood as well.

Get yourself onto Google Fi. Even if you went full geek with the data you would max out at $60 data charges for a given month.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 2:59:03pm

This is the Best Tweet You Will See All Day

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:01:58pm

re: #212 Anymouse 🌹

Context: Alberta is Canadian Texas basically. Lots of wingnuts there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:02:16pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

This is the Best Tweet You Will See All Day

Well, there’s this one:

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:05:03pm

re: #225 DodgerFan1988

Something about this doesn’t sound right:

Stanislaus County Sheriff Adam Christianson told reporters on Thursday that his deputies have identified a suspect in the shooting of Cpl. Ronil Singh, 33, but are not yet releasing his identity. The unnamed man is suspected of being in the U.S. illegally, though the department gave no other details about his immigration status.

“This suspect, unlike Ron — who immigrated to this country lawfully and legally to pursue his lifelong career of public safety, public service and being a police officer — this suspect is in our country illegally,” Christianson said at a press conference. “He doesn’t belong here. He’s a criminal.”

That the suspect is allegedly in the US illegally is the only detail they’ve released, other than describing him as “Hispanic.”

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Skip Intro  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:10:39pm

re: #231 KGxvi

It sounds like Steven Miller wrote it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:11:55pm

re: #231 KGxvi

Something about this doesn’t sound right:

That the suspect is allegedly in the US illegally is the only detail they’ve released, other than describing him as “Hispanic.”

If the sheriff’s department suspected him of being in the country without documentation, they would not likely release a whole lot of details until they could confirm it.

On the other hand, the article says he has not been captured and are trying to identify him, so it might also be a wee bit of racist conservatism in that sheriff department’s press release.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:16:22pm

Gaa. I deeply regret caucusing for Sanders.

I understand identifying potential political foes and going after them (especially after I failed miserably in the last election myself), but this is ridiculous.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:18:06pm

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹

Gaa. I deeply regret caucusing for Sanders.

I understand identifying potential political foes and going after them (especially after I failed miserably in the last election myself), but this is ridiculous.

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Are they asking him to disclose his tax returns?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:19:23pm

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹

Gaa. I deeply regret caucusing for Sanders.

I understand identifying potential political foes and going after them (especially after I failed miserably in the last election myself), but this is ridiculous.

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And WTF has he been doing to Beto? lmao

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:25:48pm

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹

Gaa. I deeply regret caucusing for Sanders.

I understand identifying potential political foes and going after them (especially after I failed miserably in the last election myself), but this is ridiculous.

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He’s one to talk about immigration policy given Steve King praised him. Bitter man needs to lose big in 2020.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:25:49pm

yeah…they all just happened to have MAGA hats.
Just like that captain just happened to have a Trump flag….

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:26:44pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah…they all just happened to have MAGA hats.
Just like that captain just happened to have a Trump flag….

And the wingnuts are already “whatabouting”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:27:27pm

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹

Well, there’s this one:

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If they were wearing Obama gear, they’d accuse Obama of making the military his personal guard.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:28:13pm

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

And the wingnuts are already “whatabouting”

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Not even close to the same thing but nice try inbred wingnut garbage.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:30:05pm

Look at this idiotic garbage person:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:31:21pm

Bernie continues to smear everyone who isn’t him as a corporatist. Well I say he’s a hypocrite. Loves to talk about corporate responsibility while assigning none to the gun lobby. Attacks the status quo on immigration despite having a record on immigration praised by Steve King. Bernie in many ways is a fraud.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:31:50pm

re: #242 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this idiotic garbage person:

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Hang yourself Dumbo Jr please.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:33:25pm

They will still blame the “Illegals.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:33:43pm

Dumbo Jr and his whole cowardly family have zero history of public service.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:34:09pm

re: #245 DodgerFan1988

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They will still blame the “Illegals.”

They won’t because they hate the other more.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:34:28pm

re: #245 DodgerFan1988

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They will still blame the “Illegals.”

“It’s about the cruelty.”

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:36:05pm

re: #246 HappyWarrior

Dumbo Jr and his whole cowardly family have zero history of public service.

Donny Jr is nothing but doing the “me too dad” thing.

He is a chip off the old blockhead.

I hope to see him really crying sometime this year.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:36:12pm

Well, this is novel. Attempting to log into my account at the VA for benefits, which requires logging in through the DOD, I get this message:

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at myaccess.dmdc.osd.mil

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:37:51pm

re: #245 DodgerFan1988

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They will still blame the “Illegals.”

It does not matter because they love seeing Trump kick colored people and gays down.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:38:45pm

re: #249 ObserverArt

Donny Jr is nothing but doing the “me too dad” thing.

He is a chip off the old blockhead.

I hope to see him really crying sometime this year.

He needs to be in jail.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:40:20pm

re: #250 Anymouse 🌹

Well, this is novel. Attempting to log into my account at the VA for benefits, which requires logging in through the DOD, I get this message:

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at myaccess.dmdc.osd.mil

#Trumpshutdown

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:49:39pm

re: #242 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this idiotic garbage person:

It doesn’t matter whether the hats were personal gear or not. Campaign paraphernalia is against military regulations and federal law in military formations.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:50:25pm

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

#Trumpshutdown

I call it the Trumpdown for conservation of pixels.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:51:12pm
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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:52:53pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

The only thing he should be worried about signing is a continuing resolution to open the government back up… one without his stupid ASS.*

*See: re: #61 KGxvi

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:53:43pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:56:28pm

I wonder if any of the furloughed federal employees have spouses that are soybean farmers?

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 3:58:02pm

re: #258 Anymouse 🌹

When you’ve had certain advantages all your life, equality can look a lot like discrimination.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:00:19pm

Video, thirteen seconds.

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Belafon  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:01:11pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is fucking clueless

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Someone should show him World War Z.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:03:10pm

That’s correct. It’s not a crime to receive such information. It’s a crime to either use it or not report it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:04:14pm

I’m off to bed. It’s late and I’m cold. Catch y’all later.

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Charmingly Persistent  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:04:43pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Hang yourself Dumbo Jr please.

Please don’t.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:06:40pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So wish we could get our new dog interested in tennis balls. We have a huge basket-full. My son plays on the HS team. We took her to an isolated, unused soccer field today to play fetch and she said “stop trying to make fetch happen.” Found the opening in the fence and was looking to run off into the woods. She finally stopped and responded to a call for a treat, but it was dicey.

Six-week training course starts in just over a week. I think we’ll need two.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:08:16pm

re: #266 Barefoot Grin

Helps if the dog is some kind of retriever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:08:44pm

He enlisted into the Army at 18 years old and was a heavy machine gunner in the 101st Infantry Regiment.

He was awarded the Bronze Star for “exemplary conduct in ground combat against the armed enemy” during the Rhineland Campaign in early 1945. He earned two Purple Hearts for his war wounds in Luxembourg and Arracourt, in northern France.

“He was shot in the calf and he fell to the ground,” his daughter, Candice Easton, told The Times on Christmas Eve about his fight in Luxembourg. “As he lay there and waited for medics, he saw somebody going around the field — a German picking off the wounded. He lay there and he played dead and hoped for the best, and he got bypassed.’

“When a medic got there to help him, he got shot. It was really something. My dad isn’t very dramatic — I’m being dramatic about it — but by the time my father was taken to a field hospital, he thought it was over with and he could finally relax, the field hospital got bombed and they had to move all the patients.”

snip

With her father already buried in the Georgia National Cemetery in Canton only two days after his death, Easton is trying to give him a celebration of life worthy of the man himself.

“My father was a very good man, and just because he died so old there’s nobody left to come,” Easton said, her voice breaking. “We’re from New York, and he has two friends up there, and they’re in their 90s and they won’t be able to come …. I’m the only one left. I’m 63, I’m having a celebration of life for him this Saturday in Flowery Branch at the Masonic Hall, and I’m worried nobody will come.”

Cornelssen’s celebration of life is set for noon on Saturday, Dec. 29, at the Flowery Branch Masonic Lodge on 5416 Spring Street.

Easton invites local veterans to attend and celebrate her late father.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:09:47pm

re: #267 Decatur Deb

Helps if the dog is some kind of retriever.

looked to me like the dog was trying to figure out how to fit more than one tennis ball in her mouth

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:10:02pm

re: #267 Decatur Deb

Helps if the dog is some kind of retriever.

She’s not, apparently. She looks like one, though. Not sure what she is made of.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:10:51pm

re: #270 Barefoot Grin

She’s not, apparently. She looks like one, though. Not sure what she is made of.

She does like to retrieve other dogs’ turds, so she’s got that going for her….

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:10:58pm

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

Where in Georgia?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:12:12pm

re: #272 Decatur Deb

Where in Georgia?

Flowery Branch in Hall County

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:13:10pm

re: #271 Barefoot Grin

She does like to retrieve other dogs’ turds, so she’s got that going for her….

Wife’s old Poodle was a tennis ball maniac. A guy saw them in the park and said: “Wish my dog would do that.” Dog was a Boxer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:13:33pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

Flowery Branch in Hall County

google says it’s part of the Gainesville, GA, metro area

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:15:04pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

Flowery Branch in Hall County

Bummer. Other end of the state, not driving distance.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:15:43pm

re: #274 Decatur Deb

Wife’s old Poodle was a tennis ball maniac. A guy saw them in the park and said: “Wish my dog would do that.” Dog was a Boxer.

We will work on it. She looks like a hunting mix-breed (vet thinks so, too).

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:18:47pm

re: #277 Barefoot Grin

We will work on it. She looks like a hunting mix-breed (vet thinks so, too).

One day the Poodle kept me at it on a concrete driveway until we noticed his paws were bleeding. When we wouldn’t play, he would run a ball to the top of a 3-story stairway and chase it down the stairs.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:20:36pm

re: #265 Charmingly Persistent

Please don’t.

Yeah my bad. That was out of bounds.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:21:09pm

re: #278 Decatur Deb

One day the Poodle kept me at it on a concrete driveway until we noticed his paws were bleeding. When we wouldn’t play, he would run a ball to the top of a 3-story stairway and chase it down the stairs.

Ok, that’s cute but compulsive. Or too much intelligence. We don’t want overly intelligent dogs in our house (and I think we’re in the clear).

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:21:35pm

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

getting dusty in here.

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:21:36pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amy Klobuchar

@amyklobuchar
Doctors from the University of Minnesota are raising funds to go and provide care to refugees south of our border. The trip is one of the first of its kind - but part of a long tradition of Minnesota’s volunteerism and global spirit.

Deciding to go to Mexico to do volunteer work wasn’t the most super-tough decision for Minnesotans in December.

That said, more power to them. I hope they can do good work.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:22:53pm

re: #280 Barefoot Grin

Ok, that’s cute but compulsive. Or too much intelligence. We don’t want overly intelligent dogs in our house (and I think we’re in the clear).

In my experience, you either want a very smart dog or a very dumb dog, they tend to be the most fun. If you can get yourself a very smart dog and a very dumb dog at the same time, that’s basically heaven.

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dangerman  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:28:23pm

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

And the wingnuts are already “whatabouting”

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Troops behavior aside,
Mrs Obama was not the president

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:29:32pm

re: #283 KGxvi

In my experience, you either want a very smart dog or a very dumb dog, they tend to be the most fun. If you can get yourself a very smart dog and a very dumb dog at the same time, that’s basically heaven.

I do wish we had space for another dog. But we’re in a townhouse.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:30:06pm

re: #284 dangerman

Troops behavior aside,
Mrs Obama was not the president

And they weren’t asking her to sign promotional material.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:31:48pm

Any military member who thinks Trump gives a shit about them is a fool. That’s all that needs to be said.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:32:47pm

re: #285 Barefoot Grin

I do wish we had space for another dog. But we’re in a townhouse.

How about a Greyhound? They don’t take up much space!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 4:40:37pm

re: #288 Blind Frog Belly White

How about a Greyhound? They don’t take up much space!

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I’ve heard that they are very chill. Run/walk them a bit and then they just want to sleep or lie about for the rest of the day. I’ll work on the Missus.

Our dog is great, but we’re still getting to know each other after two months. She loves tug of war. She’s worn out two ropes and we aren’t buying another soon, so she goes into her crate and picks up bedding towels to bring to me to try to start a fight. But mostly she likes to curl up next to me on the sofa. And when I’m in our bedroom she’ll come in to bonk me with her nose but then goes to the landing outside the door to lie down until I come out. Then she goes bounding down the stairs, leaps a couple of yards across the wood floor to the carpet and does what she can to engage me in either a tug of war match or some serious belly scratching. Whenever I can I indulge.

ETA: and right now she’s happily scraping the marrow out of an antler I bought for her today.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:01:47pm

re: #277 Barefoot Grin

We will work on it. She looks like a hunting mix-breed (vet thinks so, too).

Once you said she tried to go out the fence I was kind of thinking some hound in there. Follow the nose, screw fetching.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:07:17pm

JFC these Bernoids…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:07:46pm

re: #291 ObserverArt

Once you said she tried to go out the fence I was kind of thinking some hound in there. Follow the nose, screw fetching.

Yeah, she runs/walks with face on the ground sniffing the whole way.

OT, but last year I asked my older son to give the musically inclined younger boy the Telecaster I bought for him a few years ago since he didn’t play. Just now I heard younger son playing a song and so I poked my head in his door and asked “was that Jason Isbell’s “Relatively Easy”?

“Yeah, drop-D, capo on the fourth fret.”

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:13:15pm

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

JFC these Bernoids…

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This sort of “WE MUST HAVE PURITY!” shit is how you lose elections.

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Belafon  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:16:05pm

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

JFC these Bernoids…

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Edit: I ain’t fixing the grammar error.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:25:57pm

Slow here tonight, so here’s what’s playing in my head:

Real Live Bleeding Fingers And Broken Guitar Strings

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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:26:48pm

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:26:53pm

re: #294 Targetpractice

This sort of “WE MUST HAVE PURITY!” shit is how you lose elections.

At this point, I’m treating them as hostile actors, just as with the MAGAheads.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:27:42pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

Lol at the birds’ reactions. It is an excellent movie. Really enjoyed it although it was very intense.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:32:00pm

NO COLLUSION!! NO COLLUSION!!! YOUR TEH COLLISION!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:36:49pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:39:29pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What do you expect from a cat turd?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:39:55pm
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freetoken  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:46:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:47:06pm

yeah, this…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:50:39pm
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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2018 • 5:59:41pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

It pisses me off to no end to see retired military saying these things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:02:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:04:14pm
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freetoken  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:04:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:06:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:06:58pm
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freetoken  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:08:04pm

So, last night’s PowerBall winner was another NYC winner (Brooklyn this time.)

Good for them… though as usual the tweeters seem to not understand that the winner will end up with only a small fraction of the advertised amount. First, the present cash value is only about 55% of the annuitized advertised amount.

Then there is federal tax of 37%… and NY state tax… and then NYC has its own special tax.

Still, the winner will be rich.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:09:03pm

re: #295 Belafon

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Edit: I ain’t fixing the grammar error.

So sick of their shit.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:10:20pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:12:26pm

Sorry. I just finished a huge raft of work and have had a bit of some high-powered IPA, but here is my contribution to the earlier discussion of “rapture” dealing mainly with Blondie: Patti Smith’s “Frederick” (“after the rapture two hearts meet…”). I love this song so much.

Patti Smith Group - Frederick

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:16:58pm

re: #315 Charles Johnson

What’s this Christ - mas…. you speak of? Did they win or something? Did someone die or almost die, and require the consumption of food to celebrate?
///////////////////////////////

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:18:20pm

re: #150 jaunte

They “literally stole the election” from Bernie by nominating a more popular candidate.

I know right? The DNC is so evil!!

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2018 • 6:44:52pm

re: #316 Barefoot Grin

Sorry. I just finished a huge raft of work and have had a bit of some high-powered IPA, but here is my contribution to the earlier discussion of “rapture” dealing mainly with Blondie: Patti Smith’s “Frederick” (“after the rapture two hearts meet…”). I love this song so much.

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As said so very often here - produced by Todd Rundgren!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2018 • 7:19:07pm

re: #289 Barefoot Grin

I’ve heard that they are very chill. Run/walk them a bit and then they just want to sleep or lie about for the rest of the day. I’ll work on the Missus.

Remarkably chill. 40 mph Couch Potatoes. After Rango’s 3 mile walk today ( a long one for us these days), he’s mostly been napping.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2018 • 4:22:39am

re: #96 calochortus

Well, I’m not a tool expert either. I’ll go with “old-timey multi-tool” too. I just don’t necessarily believe some guy at a flea market.

I did a quick search and it seems it might be a tool specifically for opening shipping crates.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 28, 2018 • 4:25:54am

re: #102 TedStriker

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Why the fuck am I (we) paying for this criminals’ lawyers?


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