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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:04:46am
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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:06:08am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Nice try. Not clicking.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:07:53am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:08:29am

working from home while dealing with docs for my thumb and the orange shit gibbon is on MSNBC and ranting like a damn moron.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:08:43am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

If they were driving, they would have gotten here before the election.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:09:35am

Today on the Pathetic Needy Manbaby Show:
Manbaby comes up with plot to get people to stop looking at Nancy Pelosi.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:09:36am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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He doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about as usual.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:10:01am

re: #6 jaunte

Today on the Pathetic Needy Manbaby Show:
Manbaby comes up with plot to get people to stop looking at Nancy Pelosi.

I suspect that’s why Mitt did his oped.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:10:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:12:36am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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he’s been watching Mad Max.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:13:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:13:46am

Pence is a wax statue or a cardboard cutout, yes?
He doesn’t move and his facial expression is exactly the same in every screen grab

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Chrysicat  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:14:26am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:15:22am

re: #4 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

working from home while dealing with docs for my thumb and the orange shit gibbon is on MSNBC and ranting like a damn moron.

Hoping you’ll feel better soon!

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:16:13am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:17:09am

Putin is really yanking Orange Anusface’s chain!

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:18:02am
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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:18:24am

re: #13 Chrysicat

Yes, but you have to actually uphold the rule of law. You still go after the cartel boss even if the gang is threatening you.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:19:09am

re: #13 Chrysicat

Yes, I realise that fully. I also feel that there has to be some tree we can shake to make an impeachable offense against HIM fall out as well, since Manafort was directly responsible for placing him in his position, which likely means he’s as beholden to Russia as #Dotard.

Exactly. After Reagan was impeached, convicted, removed from office, tried for treason, and shot for the Iran/Contra crime, Bush was impeached, convicted, removed from office, tried for treason, and shot. Well, that’s what should have happened….

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sagehen  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:19:56am

re: #11 jaunte

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He’s trying to see which vertebrae to insert the knife between…

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Chrysicat  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:20:10am

re: #18 Belafon

Yes, but you have to actually uphold the rule of law. You still go after the cartel boss even if the gang is threatening you.

I’d honestly prefer to get Pence first—that would mean no VP to succeed Trump, and that in turn would mean Pelosi46.

Whereas if we got Trump and then immediately convicted Pence46, he’d have a VP to step up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:21:05am

WUT

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:21:32am

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Exactly. After Reagan was impeached, convicted, removed from office, tried for treason, and shot for the Iran/Contra crime, Bush was impeached, convicted, removed from office, tried for treason, and shot. Well, that’s what should have happened….

With Supreme Court Justice Cormac McCarthy in charge…

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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:22:08am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

WUT

Is he having bondage fantasies?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:23:00am

WUT

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:23:07am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

WUT

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I like having a President who doesn’t talk like a Bimd villain.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:23:59am
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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:24:10am
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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:24:45am

re: #21 Chrysicat

I’d honestly prefer to get Pence first—that would mean no VP to succeed Trump, and that in turn would mean Pelosi46.

Whereas if we got Trump and then immediately convicted Pence46, he’d have a VP to step up.

I’m sure the only way we’d get Republicans on board with impeachment is to have a new VP first, meaning a Republican nominee.

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Ming5000  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:25:27am

re: #28 jaunte

Both Morning Joke and CNN had that clip on this morning.

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sagehen  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:25:44am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:26:05am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:26:37am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

It is kind of the GOP dream, isn’t it?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:27:08am
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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:27:51am
The new Congress will include at least 38 House members and four senators who are Latino — including a few others who are newcomers — according to the official count of the National Association of Elected and Appointed Officials Educational Fund. NALEO still is working to confirm the tally.

The link is in one of the tweets I posted on the previous thread.

38 and four. No wonder they’re running scared and trying to slam the borders shut.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:28:36am

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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Well most of his worst cronies are Steve.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:29:50am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:30:20am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Keeping the government shut down is an impeachable offense.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:30:43am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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A lot of people don’t know this but I make up shit on the go.//

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:31:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:33:23am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:34:55am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:35:31am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

“A lot of people don’t know this, but we have terrorists coming in from the southern border.”

So, maybe he should try stopping them with the tools and resources he has. Maybe ICE should focus on “terrorists” rather than law-abiding visa expired persons.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:35:37am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bullshit.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:37:21am
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Chrysicat  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:37:45am

re: #29 Belafon

I’m sure the only way we’d get Republicans on board with impeachment is to have a new VP first, meaning a Republican nominee.

You’re probably right, but the problem is I’m no longer sure if there’s a single R with a political career who isn’t bought by Tsar Vladimir.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:37:52am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

George H.W. Bush said before he died, and Gerald Ford said it before he died, and Lyndon Johnson said it before he died and….

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:37:54am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

There will be zero reason to file taxes if the government stays shut down.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:39:06am

I think the “Pocahontas” slur against Warren plays so well with the GOP base because few of them are aware that Pocahontas was a real, historical person rather than just a cartoon character.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:40:39am

My Spidey Sense is telling me Frito Bancheeto is going to try to declare a state of emergency and dissolve The House.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:41:01am

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:41:05am

re: #50 Joe Bacon 🌹

My Spidey Sense is telling me Frito Bancheeto is going to try to declare a state of emergency and dissolve The House.

And everyone will laugh and go back to work.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:42:11am

re: #50 Joe Bacon 🌹

My Spidey Sense is telling me Frito Bancheeto is going to try to declare a state of emergency and dissolve The House.

Let him try.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:42:37am

Also, Trump can’t even fire one person to their face. How’s he going to pull of shutting down the House?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:44:12am

re: #21 Chrysicat

I’d honestly prefer to get Pence first—that would mean no VP to succeed Trump, and that in turn would mean Pelosi46.

Whereas if we got Trump and then immediately convicted Pence46, he’d have a VP to step up.

Or if Pence was to go down, a new VP would be nominated and there would be discussions between the GOP and Dems on who they would accept.

The Reich wing would lose their collective minds if Nancy Pelosi ascended to the presidency through impeachments.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:44:28am
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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:47:36am
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plansbandc  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:47:44am

re: #48 Belafon

I was just thinking that. Also, if that piece of shit keeps the shutdown going, dude and I are totally fucked. We are counting on our return.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:48:39am

re: #50 Joe Bacon 🌹

My Spidey Sense is telling me Frito Bancheeto is going to try to declare a state of emergency and dissolve The House.

There is no constitutional mechanism for that. That would have the entire Democratic House demanding impeachment (and possibly a few GOP as well).

Plus, that would have the streets filled with millions of people.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:49:39am

If my Wobblie Great Grandpa was still alive he’d be calling for a General Strike to shut the whole country down…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:49:48am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:50:07am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

True. DT will have everyone against him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:50:12am
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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:50:24am

re: #28 jaunte

Absolutely.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:50:44am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:50:51am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:52:09am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

There are still court fights over GW Bush’s fence.

He would have to do it with the Army. At that instant there would be a real constitutional crisis.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:52:24am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:53:41am

“Mexico will pay for the wall”
~Fat Hitler

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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:53:58am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Freedom, less government, liberty….

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:54:08am

C’mon Texas you can do better than this:

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:54:22am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:55:24am

Donnie found out that he can do even less work (if that’s possible) when the government is shut down.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:56:30am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:56:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:57:52am
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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:58:01am

So Donny threatens to keep gov’t partially shut down for months or years…and Mitch is totally silent. I’m sure this will do wonders for those at-risk Republicans that the media thinks he’s trying to protect in 2020.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:58:34am

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plansbandc  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:59:07am

Ok. Yelled fuck you so many times now I’m practically hoarse. Might be time for a walk break.

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2019 • 11:59:40am

re: #77 Targetpractice

So Donny threatens to keep gov’t partially shut down for months or years…and Mitch is totally silent. I’m sure this will do wonders for those at-risk Republicans that the media thinks he’s trying to protect in 2020.

We have to wait until fucking 2020? Hell no.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:00:37pm

re: #80 Skip Intro

We have to wait until fucking 2020? Hell no.

Someone should flip the breaker on the Social Security office on the way out. That would end this pretty soon.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:03:27pm
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Nyet  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:03:28pm

re: #80 Skip Intro

We have to wait until fucking 2020? Hell no.

I’ve had enough of this fucking dystopia.

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:03:33pm

Wish somebody would ask Mitch if he’s prepared to drive 800K Americans into poverty over a vanity project. And if Donny’s prepared to hold out for months, just how does Mitch avoid a default on the nation debt in March?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:06:29pm

re: #81 Belafon

Someone should flip the breaker on the Social Security office on the way out. That would end this pretty soon.

Well, it would end me and my gf pretty soon, all right.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:07:00pm

Donnie is days away from fulfilling his 5th avenue shooting spree.

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:08:09pm

re: #86 Dr. Matt

Donnie is days away from fulfilling his 5th avenue shooting spree.

That would just boost his evangelical support.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:08:51pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

A NYC subway rat…. from the 1970s no doubt. /

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Dr. Matt  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:09:32pm
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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:10:31pm

re: #82 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Put another way, it’s at multidecade lows.

Border crossings are at multidecade lows.

The number here illegally is at multidecade lows.

The only ones thinking this is a crisis are the white nationalist GOPers who are freaked out that nonwhites are an increasing percentage of the American population and angry privileged white guys are reverting to their misogynistic/bigoted type - being racist scum.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:12:44pm

Does anyone know when the English translation will be made available?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:13:18pm

There’s now an entire account putting songs behind the now-famous AOC dancing clip.

My fave so far, because of the theme: Guillotine

I just spit the dope lines, I don’t snort ‘em
Tell the boss to call police to escort him
You don’t write all them lies, you just quote ‘em
Get offline, plug in to this modem
No, you can’t out-vote ‘em
The rules is still golden
Only jewels we holding is if we guarding our scrotum
If you press your ear to the turf that is stolen
You can hear the sound of limitations exploding
Please sir, may we have another portion?
We’re children of the beast that dodged the abortion
Neck placed firm ‘tween the floor and the Florsheim
We’ll shut your shit down, don’t call it extortion
Caution — we’re coming for your head
So call the Feds and get files to shred
Every textbook read said bring you the bread
But guess what we got you instead?

[Hook]
We got the guillotine
We got the guillotine, you better run

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:14:08pm

re: #90 lawhawk

Put another way, it’s at multidecade lows.

Border crossings are at multidecade lows.

The number here illegally is at multidecade lows.

The only ones thinking this is a crisis are the white nationalist GOPers who are freaked out that nonwhites are an increasing percentage of the American population and angry privileged white guys are reverting to their misogynistic/bigoted type - being racist scum.

I was composing a reply in my head, until I realized, in its essence it would be:

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

yeah.

And one more Yeah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:14:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:15:25pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:16:05pm

If you want the full original song, check out this aggressive re-imagining of The Wiz, starring Madame La Guillotine

The Coup - “The Guillotine”

ROLL THE TUMBRILS DOWN WALL STREET!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:16:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:17:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:18:14pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:18:43pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

He should just declare all the Walls built already

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Dr. Matt  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:19:36pm

Build the wall out of soy. There’s plenty of it sitting around.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:20:01pm

A beautiful breather:

We now return to our regular programming:
Trump’s a fucking liar who knows landlords and banks don’t care about excuses for not making rent or mortgage payments:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:20:16pm

What the President Could Do If He Declares a State of Emergency (The Atlantic, more at the link):

It would be nice to think that America is protected from the worst excesses of Trump’s impulses by its democratic laws and institutions. After all, Trump can do only so much without bumping up against the limits set by the Constitution and Congress and enforced by the courts. Those who see Trump as a threat to democracy comfort themselves with the belief that these limits will hold him in check.

But will they? Unknown to most Americans, a parallel legal regime allows the president to sidestep many of the constraints that normally apply. The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—more than 100 special provisions become available to him. While many of these tee up reasonable responses to genuine emergencies, some appear dangerously suited to a leader bent on amassing or retaining power. For instance, the president can, with the flick of his pen, activate laws allowing him to shut down many kinds of electronic communications inside the United States or freeze Americans’ bank accounts. Other powers are available even without a declaration of emergency, including laws that allow the president to deploy troops inside the country to subdue domestic unrest.

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plansbandc  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:23:46pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:24:38pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

What the President Could Do If He Declares a State of Emergency (The Atlantic, more at the link):

DJT declaring a state of emergency is no big deal even though Obama was a tyranny with his FEMA death camps and Executive Orders.

/

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:24:49pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

He should just declare all the Walls built already

It worked with the ISS. It was about 40% finished after the Columbia disaster, they just declared it complete…

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:25:24pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Keeping the government shut down is an impeachable offense.

So should addressing the American people like a lunatic.

I can’t believe what I am reading in Charles’ tweet comments regarding his off-the-rails rambling.

He is suffering from all the pressures on him. And it is coming out of his mouth in complete garble.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:25:48pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

Has the Tea Party revolted at this proposed declaration yet?

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Danack  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:26:09pm

re: #92 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

My favourite:

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:26:20pm
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Mike Lamb  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:27:33pm

Between yesterday’s surprise appearance at the “briefing” and this nonsense today, it’s apparent that he wants to knock Pelosi off the front page and keep his base in a froth (as if they had a different state) because he’s terrified of the coming investigations.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:28:42pm

re: #111 Mike Lamb

Yes. That is exactly what it is.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:29:00pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Arizona GOP bans criticism of dear leader.

From there:

According to a report by E.J. Montini of the Arizona Republic, GOP Chairman Jonathan Lines fired off an email demanding allegiance to the embattled president while at the same time saying the party is a “big tent” that allows for differences of opinion.

‘Now get in the back of the tent and shut up!’

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:29:28pm

The core operating principle behind Trumpism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:30:36pm

re: #108 Sir John Barron

Has the Tea Party revolted at this proposed declaration yet?

Of course not. They would cheer it if it occurred.

Considering how many wingnuts howled over Justice Antonin Scalia dying (but how little they did about it), I am not terribly concerned about them now.

Possibly the best outcome here is if Trump figures he has a better chance if he flees the country. Aside from him being gone, that would absolutely destroy the GOP.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:31:05pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The core operating principle behind Trumpism.

And if it starves old people, bonus!

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:31:14pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The core operating principle behind Trumpism.

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‘Whatever you say I can’t do, Imma have the military do it!’

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Mike Lamb  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:31:34pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The core operating principle behind Trumpism.

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Wouldn’t piss me off. I’d actually laugh the stupid fucking Trumpers that had their land snatched up.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:33:33pm

re: #118 Mike Lamb

Wouldn’t piss me off. I’d actually laugh the stupid fucking Trumpers that had their land snatched up.

Some of them aren’t stupid Trumpers. In fact, some of them are butterflies, others are the occasional Jaguar.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:33:44pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

Do it?

Seize the property of American taxpayers who have property adjoining the US border with Mexico?

Do these fuckers even realize that a good number of the people living along the border are:
1) GOPers
2) actually oppose Trump’s wall bulkshit because they know better and that this isn’t anywhere approaching a crisis?

This policy is about value signaling to the white nationalist base that he’s for them. It’s also signaling to the GOP base that they have someone who is intent on sabotaging functioning govt, which has long been one of their goals.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:36:03pm

According to the Atlantic article above, there are a number of emergency powers in force right now.

However, the act which covers those requires that Congress review those declarations every six months to see if they are still needed, and any new powers must declare their scope and time.

Congress has not reviewed any of those declarations in many years.

I am not a lawyer, but it would seem every one of them is in violation of the law now, and could be struck down as unlawful. I don’t know how one would go about that though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:37:02pm

re: #119 wrenchwench

Some of them aren’t stupid Trumpers. In fact, some of them are butterflies, others are the occasional Jaguar.

Plus a lot of the land along the border is in liberal districts (such as El Paso).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:38:20pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The core operating principle behind Trumpism.

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Imagine if Obama forcibly took…nevermind.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:40:00pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

According to the Atlantic article above, there are a number of emergency powers in force right now.

However, the act which covers those requires that Congress review those declarations every six months to see if they are still needed, and any new powers must declare their scope and time.

Congress has not reviewed any of those declarations in many years.

I am not a lawyer, but it would seem every one of them is in violation of the law now, and could be struck down as unlawful. I don’t know how one would go about that though.

So, another task for House Democrats.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:40:06pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹

Plus a lot of the land along the border is in liberal districts (such as El Paso).

Which has a lot of bridges, with much commerce. Moveable walls? Or just do without a billion dollars per day* crossing that border?

*represents entire US/Mexico border

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:42:46pm

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine if Obama forcibly took…nevermind.

Mr. Johnson is not the only one who noticed that “emergency powers” crap. Lawrence Tribe cites the same Atlantic article I did above in a tweet just now.

To seize that land and enforce any putative emergency order, he would have to use the Army (which is allowed under the emergency powers act in question). At that instant, we would have a constitutional crisis. A) The Army refuses orders (sworn to uphold the Constitution, not the President), and we have a de facto military dictatorship, B) Some elements of the Army comply and others do not, effectively pitting Army formations against each other (Civil War Part Deux), C) The whole Army complies and landowners revolt and the streets are filled with millions of protestors.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:43:19pm

Nihilist Garfield has nothing on this:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:45:21pm

re: #125 wrenchwench

Which has a lot of bridges, with much commerce. Moveable walls? Or just do without a billion dollars per day* crossing that border?

*represents entire US/Mexico border

Mexico is the second-largest trading partner to Nebraska. Closing the border with Nebraska would instantly crush my state’s economy.

There has been noise here from Republican legislators about that, and even Gov. Ricketts put out a statement reminding everyone how important Mexico is to Nebraska agriculture.

Trump has a ton of supporters here, but I don’t think most of the ranchers and farmers in this state want to see their generational family farms and ranches destroyed for Trump’s monument to racism.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:46:21pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

I assume the largest is Canada?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:49:25pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

Fixed c) in above comment, which I did not fill in.

C) The whole Army complies and landowners revolt and the streets are filled with millions of protestors.

I would also note the Navy is not subject to the Posse Comitatus Act. That said, most of the Navy is involved in doing things like maintaining ships and driving aircraft. I doubt the Navy and Marine Corps could free up enough personnel to be meaningful for an 1,100 mile land seizure, and certainly not for nationwide protests.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:51:59pm

re: #129 Eclectic Cyborg

I assume the largest is Canada?

Yes.

Note Trump is after all our state’s top trading partners overseas.

Home Global Insights By State Nebraska Trade Statistics

Nebraska: Trade Statistics
Exporter Rank
34 / 50
Importer Rank
42 / 50
Trade Balance Rank
6 / 50
Note: USA Trade Online Data 1 (2017) are used for computing ranks.
Total Trade [1]
Total Exports (2017) (Origin of Movement) $7,206,415,361
Total Imports (2017) $3,754,491,843
Trade Balance (2017) $3,451,923,518
Impact of Trade [2]
Total Export-Supported Jobs Related to Manufacturing 31,962 (2016)
No. of Businesses Selling Products Overseas 1,821 (2015)
Percentage of Exporters Classified as Small and Medium-size Companies 79% (2015)
Percentage of Exports by Small and Medium-size Companies 26% (2015)
Trade Partners [1]
Export Partners
Top 10 Export Countries
Country Export USD$
Canada $1,583,364,002
Mexico $1,511,836,528
Japan $775,232,314
China $483,177,284
Korea, South $441,729,483
Australia $253,965,055
Hong Kong $188,691,052
Netherlands $170,099,579
Belgium $138,996,431
Germany $135,673,352
globaledge.msu.edu

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:55:21pm

Maybe I’ve got a touch of Seasonal Affective Disorder today, but I’m really relating to these cartoons.

More than I should.

All is emptiness. Failure is inevitable. Laughter is only momentary.
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:56:33pm

Gov. Ricketts, Nebraska Delegation Complete Successful Trade Mission to Mexico (Goes to the Nebraska State Government).

A couple days later, Trump cut Ricketts’s legs out from under him with his threats against Mexican trade.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 12:57:09pm

In Charlotte, Kidnapper Chases A Victim… Into a Karate Dojo. You Know How This Ends :-).

And now for something completely different.

On Wednesday, a woman was walking down Statesville Avenue in North Charlotte at around 9:00pm, with her hands holding shopping bags, when a man pulled-up next to her and jumped out, grabbed her by the throat and arm and tried to pull her into his car.

The would-be victim struggled to get free and ran down the street with her attacker in pursuit.

She ran into the first place that was open.

The clearly marked Bushiken Karate Charlotte Dojo.

Said Randall Ephraim, the owner and karate master, “There were still some kids in the dojo being picked up by parents and a couple of adult students cleaning up when a young lady came through our doors and stated that someone was trying to harm her.”

She ran behind Randall.

“A big male entered the building. I asked how i could assist him and he stated that he was there for the lady. She insisted that she did not know him and tried to kidnap her.”

Randall instructed the man to leave. At this point four of his students with black belts clearly visible stood in front of the woman and got into position.

The man, a possible Nobel Prize nominee, still tried to get to her “aggressively pushing and swinging.”

Randall effortlessly put him in submission, picked him up, and escorted him outside.

Instead of leaving, the man tried to attack Randall.

It didn’t last long.

“Once outside he attempted to attack again…. and was dealt with accordingly.”

Indeed.

He was taken away unconscious and on a stretcher to the hospital.

The grateful woman has since signed-up for classes.

Here’s a news link: fox13now.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:00:09pm

re: #134 Belafon

In Charlotte, Kidnapper Chases A Victim… Into a Karate Dojo. You Know How This Ends :-).

Here’s a news link: fox13now.com

How was that possible without the good guy having a gun?//

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:00:26pm

re: #134 Belafon

In Charlotte, Kidnapper Chases A Victim… Into a Karate Dojo. You Know How This Ends :-).

Here’s a news link: fox13now.com

Spoiler:

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Good read.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:00:59pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

It’d also crush the economy of California (he’d actually probably like that), Arizona, Texas, and many others.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:01:07pm
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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:03:40pm

re: #11 jaunte

That’s the look of a man who wishes he knew where in the Naval Observatory Johnson hid the plans for Kennedy’s assassination!

(Also, no, I don’t actually believe Johnson was responsible for Kennedy’s assassination, I think Oswald acted alone)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:05:23pm

re: #138 Belafon

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That’s not a surprise tho haha.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:05:43pm

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

Fixed c) in above comment, which I did not fill in.

I would also note the Navy is not subject to the Posse Comitatus Act. That said, most of the Navy is involved in doing things like maintaining ships and driving aircraft. I doubt the Navy and Marine Corps could free up enough personnel to be meaningful for an 1,100 mile land seizure, and certainly not for nationwide protests.

And the Coast Guard, which we created to do the real work that the Navy considers itself too good to do*, is shut down….

*Sorry—I know you’re a Navy man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:05:51pm

re: #138 Belafon

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:06:53pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

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I’m sure they’re also confused as to why they agree with the wingnuts that electing those two Muslim ladies was bad.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:10:32pm

re: #139 KGxvi

That’s the look of a man who wishes he knew where in the Naval Observatory Johnson Stanton hid the plans for Kennedy’s Lincoln’s assassination!

(Also, no, I don’t actually believe Johnson was responsible for Kennedy’s assassination, I think Oswald acted alone)

Fixxed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:10:45pm

my shocked face…

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:11:01pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I’m sure they’re also confused as to why they agree with the wingnuts that electing those two Muslim ladies was bad.

Pretty sure it goes like this:

something something something… or the terrorists will win!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:11:54pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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my shocked face…

I’m so sorry you’re stuck with him and McConnell. I think Rand and Mitch may be one of the worst Senate duos.

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:13:07pm

Flipped on MSNBC - had the day off because I was getting a new couch delivered, so spent most of the morning cleaning - just saw that Trump told G7 leaders that Crimea is part of Russia because everyone there speaks Russian. So, does that mean we are once again part of England?

Or do we on the West Coast with a significant number of Spanish speakers get to be part of Spain? (An EU passport would be pretty cool)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:13:09pm

re: #146 KGxvi

Pretty sure it goes like this:

something something something… or the terrorists will win!

It’s amusing to me how much overlap they have with each other. Fucking Pompeo was running his yap about the rapture the other day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:13:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:13:49pm

re: #148 KGxvi

Flipped on MSNBC - had the day off because I was getting a new couch delivered, so spent most of the morning cleaning - just saw that Trump told G7 leaders that Crimea is part of Russia because everyone there speaks Russian. So, does that mean we are once again part of England?

Or do we on the West Coast with a significant number of Spanish speakers get to be part of Spain? (An EU passport would be pretty cool)

OFFS. Fucking Kremlin errand boy.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:14:04pm

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:14:51pm

re: #152 GlutenFreeJesus

rofl

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:15:34pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

Incredibly important case, we are just 4 years away from new Congressional and state legislative district lines. We get one more presidential election with the current electoral college alignment.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:16:08pm

re: #148 KGxvi

Flipped on MSNBC - had the day off because I was getting a new couch delivered, so spent most of the morning cleaning - just saw that Trump told G7 leaders that Crimea is part of Russia because everyone there speaks Russian. So, does that mean we are once again part of England?

Or do we on the West Coast with a significant number of Spanish speakers get to be part of Spain? (An EU passport would be pretty cool)

Of course everyone there speaks Russian because Stalin deported the Crimean Tatars to Central Asia….

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:16:19pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Trump just said he’d have no problem with keeping the government shut down for years.

hey donnie,

i know im late to today’s party. here’s my question

if you have no problem keeping the govt shut down for years, until you get your wall funding, and it would appear you’re not, then how do you and your admin control the current situation status quo?
- the wall as it is
- the staff cuts because a lot of dhs (ie border patrol and the courts) wont be paid

- are you saying you cant? i mean you guys arent that good?
- or you can control the border the way it is?

and if it’s the first, then wouldnt you be derelict if you didnt make some deal, do something?

oh, and you just put appx 1/4 of the govt out of work

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:16:58pm

Toenail Lowrent haz questions…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:18:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:19:04pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toenail Lowrent haz questions…

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Desperate ditz is desperate.

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:20:26pm

re: #156 dangerman

hey donnie,

i know im late to today’s party. here’s my question

if you have no problem keeping the govt shut down for years, until you get your wall funding, and it would appear you’re not, then how do you and your admin control the current situation status quo?
- the wall as it is
- the staff cuts because a lot of dhs (ie border patrol and the courts) wont be paid

- are you saying you cant? i mean you guys arent that good?
- or you can control the border the way it is?

and if it’s the first, then wouldnt you be derelict if you didnt make some deal, do something?

oh, and you just put appx 1/4 of the govt out of work

If it’s true that multiple Republican Senators are telling McConnell it’s time to fold, I suspect we are looking at another day or two of Trump screaming and then seeing a continuing resolution passed with a veto proof majority.

And I’m not entirely convinced Trump wouldn’t veto it anyway. Watching it getting overruled would be fucking magical.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:20:55pm

re: #79 plansbandc

Ok. Yelled fuck you so many times now I’m practically hoarse. Might be time for a walk break.

or bourbon

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:22:02pm

re: #148 KGxvi

Trump’s spewing Russia-approved lines about everything around the world these days.

He might not be on the payroll, but he’s certainly compromised and pushing the Putin line.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:22:28pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

And now he’s threatening to declare a national emergency over his stupid fantasy wall.

wont get you a dime of funding

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:24:12pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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Ye gods! Hammerspace predates cartoon animation!

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:24:54pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

He should just declare all the Walls built already

i have no doubt he eventually will

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:25:31pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:25:39pm

re: #160 KGxvi

If it’s true that multiple Republican Senators are telling McConnell it’s time to fold, I suspect we are looking at another day or two of Trump screaming and then seeing a continuing resolution passed with a veto proof majority.

And I’m not entirely convinced Trump wouldn’t veto it anyway. Watching it getting overruled would be fucking magical.

I would assume he’ll sign it, lying that it includes wall funding so he can declare victory.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:26:33pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

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Yep. Motherfucker is throwing one giant tantrum.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:27:20pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:28:01pm

re: #111 Mike Lamb

Between yesterday’s surprise appearance at the “briefing” and this nonsense today, it’s apparent that he wants to knock Pelosi off the front page and keep his base in a froth (as if they had a different state) because he’s terrified of the coming investigations.

the first is true
the second is true
the third is likely also

still, this is not helping him or his image
quietly the GOP is going “oh my effing g” . you know they are

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:29:04pm

He’s going to lose it if he loses reelection if it gets to that point.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:29:36pm

re: #170 dangerman

I said that when DT was nominated by the GOP and have not stopped since.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:30:31pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:31:21pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

Mr. Johnson is not the only one who noticed that “emergency powers” crap. Lawrence Tribe cites the same Atlantic article I did above in a tweet just now.

To seize that land and enforce any putative emergency order, he would have to use the Army (which is allowed under the emergency powers act in question). At that instant, we would have a constitutional crisis. A) The Army refuses orders (sworn to uphold the Constitution, not the President), and we have a de facto military dictatorship, B) Some elements of the Army comply and others do not, effectively pitting Army formations against each other (Civil War Part Deux), C) The whole Army complies and landowners revolt and the streets are filled with millions of protestors.

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the people in the military, the individuals, the boots on the ground taking other peoples land away etc, ….they’re still gonna wanna get paid

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:31:35pm

re: #74 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Rango does Zoomies either by running full tilt around a circular track he’s generated in the yard - 5-6 times one way, then 4-6 times the other way - or by jump-spinning on the living room floor. Dory bounds from floor to ottoman to couch to chair to chairback to chair to floor, and repeat.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:31:36pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He’s such a narcissistic fucker if he thinks his “historic win” means he can’t be impeached. His victory really was unspectacular at best.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:33:22pm

re: #148 KGxvi

Flipped on MSNBC - had the day off because I was getting a new couch delivered, so spent most of the morning cleaning - just saw that Trump told G7 leaders that Crimea is part of Russia because everyone there speaks Russian. So, does that mean we are once again part of England?

Or do we on the West Coast with a significant number of Spanish speakers get to be part of Spain? (An EU passport would be pretty cool)

And Portugal gets Brazil, France get Quebec.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:34:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:34:41pm

And winning has nothing to do with impeachment. It’s high crimes and misdemeanors not high crimes and misdemeanors* but if you won election, it’s okay. Who can forget Tomi Lagren insisting his winning meant he couldn’t be impeached. That alone should have gotten her ridiculed forever.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:35:51pm

OT, but a Vietnamese restaurant in nearby Keene, NH set to open in March has been told by the city to change its planned name:

Pho Keene Great!

The owner is trying to negotiate.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:36:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:36:53pm

re: #180 Barefoot Grin

OT, but a Vietnamese restaurant in nearby Keene, NH set to open in March has been told by the city to change its planned name:

Pho Keene Great!

The owner is trying to negotiate.

That’s Pho’keene lame.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:37:15pm

re: #160 KGxvi

If it’s true that multiple Republican Senators are telling McConnell it’s time to fold, I suspect we are looking at another day or two of Trump screaming and then seeing a continuing resolution passed with a veto proof majority.

And I’m not entirely convinced Trump wouldn’t veto it anyway. Watching it getting overruled would be fucking magical.

yup
and there wasnt a lot of high dimensional chess for team nancy to do
all the d’s had to do was show up, pass the bill and sit down quietly

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:37:17pm

re: #175 Blind Frog Belly White

My Ridgeback/Lab mix loves to fetch a tennis ball from the backyard, run back inside and around the dining room table before he will give up the ball again. We call it his “victory lap,” and he does it every single time.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:38:47pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Most people just stop correcting people with obvious dementia. He’s Steve, unless Trump has a ‘good’ day.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:40:13pm

re: #183 dangerman

yup
and there wasnt a lot of high dimensional chess for team nancy to do
all the d’s had to do was show up, pass the bill and sit down quietly

Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic leadership have been planning this out for two years. It’s all going to go like that guy’s domino-style garden wall.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:40:15pm

The best memory ever so Kevin McCarthy will now go by Steve.//

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:40:26pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:41:58pm

re: #172 PhillyPretzel

I said that when DT was nominated by the GOP and have not stopped since.

he had a facade then - the appearance of a serious (if not successful) business man (and adult). it allowed them to plausibly admit it and support him.

that has slipped far these last two days and it’s gonna get harder.

everything he ranted about yesterday and today they’re gonna ask the senators and reps

Afghanistan for starters
are you ok with the gov’t shut down for years….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:42:22pm

re: #188 lawhawk

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As it should have. Despite what Rudy and Trump say, it’s not a witch hunt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:43:28pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

As it should have. Despite what Rudy and Trump say, it’s not a witch hunt.

“What else do you burn?”

“MORE WITCHES!!!”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:44:12pm

re: #180 Barefoot Grin

OT, but a Vietnamese restaurant in nearby Keene, NH set to open in March has been told by the city to change its planned name:

Pho Keene Great!

The owner is trying to negotiate.

next door to the sofa king?

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:44:16pm

re: #178 Patricia Kayden

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After today, there should be fucking walk-outs and protests. Cheeto Benito has basically said these people will be expected to pay to work for months or years unless he gets a down payment for his vanity project. There has to be a point where “This will blow over” stops being enough to blot out the bills coming due.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:44:43pm

re: #186 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic leadership have been planning this out for two years. It’s all going to go like that guy’s domino-style garden wall.

yes please

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:45:14pm

re: #189 dangerman

I have never been okay with DT. When I voted I pushed the HRC button. I rather say Madame President than have DT.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:45:27pm

This is exactly why you don’t get rid of Pelosi. Her experience is invaluable in times like this.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:46:00pm

re: #186 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic leadership have been planning this out for two years. It’s all going to go like that guy’s domino-style garden wall.

Infrastructure week!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:46:02pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:46:17pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

The best memory ever so Kevin McCarthy will now go by Steve.//

its that meme from the other day about homosexuals vs gay and “helen”, but my name’s “susan” or whatever

sorry kevin steve. we all heard it. you didnt correct him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:46:21pm

re: #195 PhillyPretzel

I have never been okay with DT. When I voted I pushed the HRC button. I rather say Madame President than have DT.

He was always an obnoxious boob imo. Which I thought was consensus opinion but apparently not enough.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:47:10pm

re: #199 dangerman

its that meme from the other day about homosexuals vs gay and “helen”, but my name’s “susan” or whatever

sorry kevin steve. we all heard it. you didnt correct him.

What’s funny is Trump does and has had a lot of obnoxious assholes named Steve in his entourage past and present.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:48:07pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:48:30pm

re: #195 PhillyPretzel

I have never been okay with DT. When I voted I pushed the HRC button. I rather say Madame President than have DT.

oh i know
i dont mean us (or anyone with a working brain)

i mean the R’s who up to now have been getting away with supporting every maniacal thing he says and does

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:48:31pm

I think every one of these pasty bastards should be addressed as “Steve” at all times.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:49:20pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

He was always an obnoxious boob imo. Which I thought was consensus opinion but apparently not enough.

new yorkers and ex new yorkers knew

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:49:57pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

What’s funny is Trump does and has had a lot of obnoxious assholes named Steve in his entourage past and present.

maybe when he says “people say” and “i’ve heard a lot” he means steve

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:50:31pm

re: #204 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

I think every one of these pasty bastards should be addressed as “Steve” at all times.

You know how Sarah Silverman nailed the blonde Trump fembot. She needs to don a bald cap and go as “Steve Stevenson, adviser to the President.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:51:17pm

re: #206 dangerman

maybe when he says “people say” and “i’ve heard a lot” he means steve

My Nana had an uncle Steve. He really deserved better to be with these guys.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:52:17pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

What’s funny is Trump does and has had a lot of obnoxious assholes named Steve in his entourage past and present.

I read an article by Steven Pinker (yeah, I know he’s an asshole) about the decline and fall of the Steves. Apparently about the time I was born and a few years after, there were a huge surge of Steves which then died away till it’s down to almost nothing.

I didn’t really notice that growing up, but I remember five Lindas in my 5th grade class.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:54:24pm

re: #209 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I read an article by Steven Pinker (yeah, I know he’s an asshole) about the decline and fall of the Steves. Apparently about the time I was born and a few years after, there were a huge surge of Steves which then died away till it’s down to almost nothing.

I didn’t really notice that growing up, but I remember five Lindas in my 5th grade class.

I was one of three Johns in my chemistry class but I have a memorable last name so that was never a problem.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:54:59pm

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:56:13pm

By the way, mark this up as another abuser tactic writ large:

…letting everything get worse, to the point of real danger (whether fiscal or physical), relying on the estimate that the other party will—being sane and seeing the long-term consequences of the approaching danger—give in.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:57:34pm

re: #178 Patricia Kayden

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Great. I’m supposed to fly to LA in two weeks. At least I got my Trusted Traveler card, maybe that’ll help some.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 4, 2019 • 1:57:38pm

Brain drain is a serious problem in this country. Looked at what happened to the office of president of the US.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:02:42pm

re: #211 wrenchwench

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That was my first use of the LGF Meme Machine, and I didn’t find that image in the otherwise-handy Classic Pics list, so I saved one from Google which was evidently suffering from a pixel deficit. Shouldn’t that be a Classic Pic? Seems like that list would need a monthly overhaul. Classics just don’t keep like they used to.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:03:06pm

re: #174 dangerman

the people in the military, the individuals, the boots on the ground taking other peoples land away etc, ….they’re still gonna wanna get paid

Payroll is the issue that will break this stalemate. January 11. If they don’t make the direct deposit on the payroll things will get messy. “Nine Meals Away from Anarchy” as the saying goes…

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:03:12pm

a lot of lizards have fun regularly changing their display handles

i’m having a hard time remembering who is who (who was who)

and keeping the few personality characteristics i thought i’d figured out tied to the right name

somehow this relates to “steve”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:03:32pm

re: #192 dangerman

next door to the sofa king?

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:04:11pm

re: #212 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

By the way, mark this up as another abuser tactic writ large:

…letting everything get worse, to the point of real danger (whether fiscal or physical), relying on the estimate that the other party will—being sane and seeing the long-term consequences of the approaching danger—give in.

He’s a kid at the store screaming about not getting his toy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:05:03pm

re: #202 Patricia Kayden

LOL. Guarantee you the RNC Latinos account is run by two white guys.

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sagehen  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:05:32pm

re: #209 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I read an article by Steven Pinker (yeah, I know he’s an asshole) about the decline and fall of the Steves. Apparently about the time I was born and a few years after, there were a huge surge of Steves which then died away till it’s down to almost nothing.

I didn’t really notice that growing up, but I remember five Lindas in my 5th grade class.

Captain America = Steve Rogers.
Debuted 1941.

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piratedan  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:05:57pm

re: #217 dangerman (not steve)

scorecards are available for a nominal fee at the site store…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:06:25pm

re: #219 Belafon

He’s a kid at the store screaming about not getting his toy.

Bingo. And he’s ready to start crayoning the walls and breaking stuff if mommy and daddy don’t give him what he wants.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:08:07pm

re: #217 dangerman (not steve)

a lot of lizards have fun regularly changing their display handles

i’m having a hard time remembering who is who (who was who)

and keeping the few personality characteristics i thought i’d figured out tied to the right name

somehow this relates to “steve”

Hi steve. Me too.

Now I don’t know whether it’s head injury or age. We only share the age, right?

re: #214 BlueSpotinAL

Brain drain is a serious problem in this country. Looked at what happened to the office of president of the US.

I’ll only say this once. I think it every day.

Brain drain—I had one of those. Took the pressure off. Saved my life.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:09:48pm

re: #180 Barefoot Grin

OT, but a Vietnamese restaurant in nearby Keene, NH set to open in March has been told by the city to change its planned name:

Pho Keene Great!

The owner is trying to negotiate.

Talk about no sense of humor on the part of the city.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:11:02pm

My real name is Steve.

This worries me.

/

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:11:18pm

re: #183 dangerman (not steve)

yup
and there wasnt a lot of high dimensional chess for team nancy to do
all the d’s had to do was show up, pass the bill and sit down quietly

To use a poker analogy, it was basically an insta-call of a bluff. Which is about the worst thing that can happen to you if you’re bluffing. The whole point of which is to try and convince your opponent that you have a better hand than they do, when they insta-call it’s because they’ve got the stone cold nuts (or close) and you’re fucked.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:11:50pm

re: #214 BlueSpotinAL

Brain drain is a serious problem in this country. Looked at what happened to the office of president of the US.

That was absolutely unprecedented brain drain on 1/20/17!

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:12:08pm

re: #222 piratedan

scorecards are available for a nominal fee at the site store…..

way back i thought of keeping track of some info
just to sort every lizard out
then i thought it would be creepy
even if no one but me knew

now someone will reveal something and ill say “right i new that” because i forgot that i knew or who it was attached to

keeps things fresh

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:13:16pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toenail Lowrent haz questions…

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Heh, that larger blow up of the little figurine in question makes it even clearer it is not the same thing as the questionable one.

It looks like a little sugar bowl or something like that maybe with two handles and a knobby top.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:13:36pm

re: #224 wrenchwench

Hi steve. Me too.

Now I don’t know whether it’s head injury or age. We only share the age, right?

I’ll only say this once. I think it every day.

Brain drain—I had one of those. Took the pressure off. Saved my life.

i’ve hit the age where i have to do the math to be sure
there was a time we knew. down to the day. and could do it with fractions too

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:14:33pm

re: #219 Belafon

He’s a kid at the store screaming about not getting his toy.

Gentle disagreement: the “kid at the store” has no real power to hurt other people, though he can get his way by creating a scene, being loud, and hoping that other’s annoyance and embarassment compels action before he wears out.

This is a grown man who knows the shutdown is hurting people and that the harm will snowball. His language today specifically incorporated invocation of the use of force (“military version of eminent domain”), so he’s further doubling down on the idea of hurting more people.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:14:40pm

re: #230 ObserverArt

Heh, that larger blow up of the little figurine in question makes it even clearer it is not the same thing as the questionable one.

It looks like a little sugar bowl or something like that maybe with two handles and a knobby top.

But, you know where Toby Larue’s mind went instantly.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:14:40pm

re: #221 sagehen

Captain America = Steve Rogers.
Debuted 1941.

And people came back from WWII and started naming their kids Steve. Makes sense.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:14:49pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

My real name is Steve.

This worries me.

/

say you just changed it from “Steve” to “Steve”
if anyone asks why, say different spelling

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:14:55pm

re: #229 dangerman (not steve)

way back i thought of keeping track of some info
just to sort every lizard out
then i thought it would be creepy
even if no one but me knew

now someone will reveal something and ill say “right i new that” because i forgot that i knew or who it was attached to

keeps things fresh

Lizards are pretty much interchangeable.

/to the unregistered user

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:15:38pm

I will call everyone Dave when I’m president so there will be more Monty Python references.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:17:28pm

re: #237 Belafon

I will call everyone Dave when I’m president so there will be more Monty Python references.

dave’s not here
(and heeeeeere we go….)

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:17:30pm

re: #237 Belafon

I will call everyone Dave when I’m president so there will be more Monty Python references.

All Australians are “Bruce” then?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:18:02pm

refresh that
re: #235 dangerman (not steve)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:18:30pm

re: #239 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

All Australians are “Bruce” then?

That’s Rule #2, right? “Nobody not named Bruce”?

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:19:05pm

re: #239 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

All Australians are “Bruce” then?

Oh really?

Rick Springfield - “Bruce”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:19:22pm

re: #239 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

All Australians are “Bruce” then?

philosophically speaking, they might be

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:21:50pm

re: #217 dangerman (not steve)

a lot of lizards have fun regularly changing their display handles

i’m having a hard time remembering who is who (who was who)

and keeping the few personality characteristics i thought i’d figured out tied to the right name

somehow this relates to “steve”

That’s why I’ve never changed my nic. Nobody would know who I am.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:23:47pm

re: #244 makeitstop

That’s why I’ve never changed my nic. Nobody would know who I am.

The trick is to also have a distinctive avatar. If I changed names my Maple Leaf would still give me away.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:23:59pm

re: #243 dangerman (not steve)

I’m not up enough on my Bruceology to respond intelligently.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:25:12pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

That is why I have my pretzels. :)

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:26:10pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

My real name is Steve.

This worries me.

/

If you went by Eclectic Cyborg (is steve) then you and dangerman each upding the same comment, then the lizard who checks who did the updings* will see

dangerman (not steve) (dangerman), Eclectic Cyborg (is steve) (Eclectic Cyborg)

Wouldn’t that be, um, something?

*there’s often a hatchling who doesn’t know you can do that

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:26:15pm

re: #238 dangerman (not steve)

dave’s not here
(and heeeeeere we go….)

Super Dave Osborne just left the building a couple of days ago…I loved his cable show back in the 80s.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:29:00pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

The trick is to also have a distinctive avatar. If I changed names my Maple Leaf would still give me away.

I’ve got my cat Bean, but to a lot of people most cats look alike.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:30:55pm

re: #250 makeitstop

I’ve got my cat Bean, but to a lot of people most cats look alike.

No mistaking my avatar….just sayin’

///

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:35:54pm

re: #215 wrenchwench

That was my first use of the LGF Meme Machine, and I didn’t find that image in the otherwise-handy Classic Pics list, so I saved one from Google which was evidently suffering from a pixel deficit. Shouldn’t that be a Classic Pic? Seems like that list would need a monthly overhaul. Classics just don’t keep like they used to.

You’re right, I’ve been meaning to add it.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:36:15pm

re: #248 wrenchwench

If you went by Eclectic Cyborg (is steve) then you and dangerman each upding the same comment, then the lizard who checks who did the updings* will see

Wouldn’t that be, um, something?

*there’s often a hatchling who doesn’t know you can do that

a literal lol i just did there

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:37:06pm

re: #251 TedStriker

No mistaking my avatar….just sayin’

///

so thats who you are!
i knew you looked familiar

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freetoken  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:38:08pm

In other news:

Antarctic ice melts to January record low

As of January 1, there was 2.11 million square miles of sea ice around the continent, the smallest January area since records began in 1978, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:38:11pm

moron

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:40:15pm

re: #204 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

I think every one of these pasty bastards should be addressed as “Steve” at all times.

Do you mind if we call you ‘Bruce’? It will avoid confusion.

Monty Python - Australian Bruces

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:41:52pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

You know how Sarah Silverman nailed the blonde Trump fembot. She needs to don a bald cap and go as “Steve Stevenson, adviser to the President.”

Late on that, but that was Milana Vayntrub doing the actual impression of Toby Loofah.

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freetoken  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:42:38pm

A headline written just for web hits:

A Terrifying Sea-Level Prediction Now Looks Far Less Likely

The problem with headlines like these, even though the body of the article points out that sea level rise is real, that the best estimates currently are far scarier than even those from a few years ago, is that the typical person never really reads articles.

But the headline will live on in the denier circles.

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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:44:33pm

re: #111 Mike Lamb

Between yesterday’s surprise appearance at the “briefing” and this nonsense today, it’s apparent that he wants to knock Pelosi off the front page and keep his base in a froth (as if they had a different state) because he’s terrified of the coming investigations.

Seems likely to me. Now will someone tell Tlaib and Ocasio to stop doing Donny’s job for him?

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:44:54pm

re: #257 Romantic Heretic

Do you mind if we call you ‘Bruce’? It will avoid confusion.

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I think I got my reference wrong earlier. I remembered Dave for some reason.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:45:52pm

re: #260 Brian J.

Seems likely to me. Now will someone tell Tlaib and Ocasio to stop doing Donny’s job for him?

Nope. They’re doing just fine.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:46:19pm

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

LOL. Guarantee you the RNC Latinos account is run by two white guys.

Or Jacob Wohl.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:46:49pm

re: #87 Skip Intro

That would just boost his evangelical support.

King David murdered his own friend and he was still a Man of God!

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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:48:00pm

re: #262 Belafon

Nope. They’re doing just fine.

Ocasio sure as hell isn’t, not with her “Let’s jack up the income tax to 70 percent!” interview as her latest installment of her never-ending attacks on the Democratic Party. Tlaib’s cursing I can live with, but it might be a better idea to keep attention on what you do rather than what you say.

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Teukka  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:48:20pm

Shameless plug:

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:49:58pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:50:24pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:51:36pm

re: #261 Belafon

I think I got my reference wrong earlier. I remembered Dave for some reason.

dave’s not here, man

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:51:59pm

I endorse this reaction:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:53:26pm

re: #260 Brian J.

Seems likely to me. Now will someone tell Tlaib and Ocasio to stop doing Donny’s job for him?

Dude, untie the knots in your panties. You warned that nominating people like AOC would lose us the midterms. How’d that prediction work out for you?

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fern01  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:54:01pm

Where is McConnell amid all this b.s. He could end this instantly - but he seems to live in trump’s world of hurting people - because pain.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:54:33pm

re: #260 Brian J.

Seems likely to me. Now will someone tell Tlaib and Ocasio to stop doing Donny’s job for him?

Your concern is noted.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:55:27pm

re: #260 Brian J.

Seems likely to me. Now will someone tell Tlaib and Ocasio to stop doing Donny’s job for him?

I want more of what she said, not less. Less dissembling. More being upfront and ready to fight.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:55:50pm

Me, the other day thinking semi-serious thoughts about how incompleteness props up fictional worlds, because there are a lot of small mundane things that have unexamined implications. And thus in turn how the continuous expansion of settings-as-brands results in something initially compelling becoming at best flat, and more often ridiculous.

Today:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:56:30pm

re: #268 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Full video

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YouTube

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:56:35pm

re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White

Dude, untie the knots in your panties. You warned that nominating people like AOC would lose us the midterms. How’d that prediction work out for you?

Funny that….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:56:36pm

So I see there someone has a huge concern over AOC’s 70% tax rate on the rich.

I fail to see the problem with her suggestion.
I had no idea that the super wealthy were in such dire financial straits.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:57:04pm

re: #259 freetoken

It’s only going to rise 37 feet instead of 43.

See? See? The libtards are blowing it all out of proportion!

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Teukka  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:57:27pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:57:40pm

washingtonpost.com

“Motherf—-er,” in short, is about civility. “Shithole countries” is about character. Democrats who conflate the two weaken themselves. They minimize the abuses of the Trump administration, and they invite the president to go on committing them without expecting anything more than an anemic reprimand. Democrats, he understands, won’t ever really fight back.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:58:27pm

re: #261 Belafon

I think I got my reference wrong earlier. I remembered Dave for some reason.

Kids in The Hall, I’m betting.

Kids In The Hall. Daves I Know

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:58:37pm

re: #275 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

In Douglas Adams hands, this would become the excrement not actually vanishing, but only being sent someplace else, probably somebody’s front yard.

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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2019 • 2:58:57pm

re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White

Dude, untie the knots in your panties. You warned that nominating people like AOC would lose us the midterms. How’d that prediction work out for you?

Governor Gillum says “Hi,” along with Governor Abrams, Senator Donnelly, Senator Graham, Senator Heitkamp, Senator McCaskill, Senator O’Rourke…

The Democrats left a lot of money on the table in November, along with Trump’s ability to nominate anyone he chooses and get them to the bench or the Cabinet, and Democrats don’t seem to be willing to fix the problem of the constant anti-advertising on their left. We didn’t win nearly enough, and we need to do better.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:00:05pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

So I see there someone has a huge concern over AOC’s 70% tax rate on the rich.

I fail to see the problem with her suggestion.
I had no idea that the super wealthy were in such dire financial straits.

it’s a marginal rate
it was 91% in my lifetime (and im sure others here, though we didnt pay it….)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:01:20pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

So I see there someone has a huge concern over AOC’s 70% tax rate on the rich.

I fail to see the problem with her suggestion.
I had no idea that the super wealthy were in such dire financial straits.

As a reminder, the Right love to talk about Kennedy’s tax cut, but 70% is what the eventual bill cut the top marginal rate DOWN TO.

And this was ‘the economy I grew up in’ for all those folks who bitch about the current economy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:03:22pm

gee, it’s like in-your-face election shenanigans played absolutely NO ROLE in some election results.

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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:04:42pm

re: #286 Blind Frog Belly White

As a reminder, the Right love to talk about Kennedy’s tax cut, but 70% is what the eventual bill cut the top marginal rate DOWN TO.

And this was ‘the economy I grew up in’ for all those folks who bitch about the current economy.

Of course, that’s the nostalgia filter at work. The US GDP was $4,803 in 1969 according to the World Bank; the Bureau of Labor Statistics makes that equal to about $34,000 in 2018 money, barely half our current GDP and about even with Spain and South Korea.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:05:22pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:06:37pm

re: #284 Brian J.

And maybe you should stop worrying about propriety and worry about cleaning up the shit show that has been inflicted on your country by the authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives.

Saying, “Such things are not the sort of things proper young ladies do,” makes you sound like like your priorities are kind of screwed up.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:07:18pm

Kind of ironic The Daily Caller is mocking the AOC dance-off with the Russian/Soviet National Athem, when it’s them that admires Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, and defended the FSB of poisoning it’s critics, banning protests, and jailing LGBT citizens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:07:50pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:08:06pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

So I see there someone has a huge concern over AOC’s 70% tax rate on the rich.

I fail to see the problem with her suggestion.
I had no idea that the super wealthy were in such dire financial straits.

Its their emotional support money; they would be bereft without it.//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:08:20pm

re: #284 Brian J.

Governor Gillum says “Hi,” along with Governor Abrams, Senator Donnelly, Senator Graham, Senator Heitkamp, Senator McCaskill, Senator O’Rourke…

The Democrats left a lot of money on the table in November, along with Trump’s ability to nominate anyone he chooses and get them to the bench or the Cabinet, and Democrats don’t seem to be willing to fix the problem of the constant anti-advertising on their left. We didn’t win nearly enough, and we need to do better.

Sorry to shine sun on your pity party, but Democrats actually did fucking GREAT in 2018.

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fern01  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:08:46pm

re: #52 Belafon

And everyone will laugh and go back to work.

I stopped laughing when he got elected.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:10:41pm

re: #288 Brian J.

Of course, that’s the nostalgia filter at work. The US GDP was $4,803 in 1969 according to the World Bank; the Bureau of Labor Statistics makes that equal to about $34,000 in 2018 money, barely half our current GDP and about even with Spain and South Korea.

You understand that the marginal rate is calculated as a percentage of income, not an absolute dollar amount, yes? Because what you just posted is irrelevant hogwash.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:10:43pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:11:57pm

The “Fuck Your Feelings!” crowd who hailed Donny’s election as a victory of “PC culture” is up in arms over the word “motherfucker”?

FFS, is it really that slow a news week?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:13:45pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, but Trump’s an old white guy, so when he uses obscenities he’s being ‘politically incorrect’, but when a woman, especially a younger woman of color does, it’s ‘demeaning herself’.

//

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:14:11pm

re: #265 Brian J.

Ocasio sure as hell isn’t, not with her “Let’s jack up the income tax to 70 percent!” interview as her latest installment of her never-ending attacks on the Democratic Party. Tlaib’s cursing I can live with, but it might be a better idea to keep attention on what you do rather than what you say.

You sure have a thing against her don’t you?

Do you want to put that 70% in context?

As far as I know that is her talking about the rate for the super-rich. It has been done before. It was at 90% at one time in the 50s. But it really figured out to be around 50%

There are members here that have mentioned that before. Probably others in Congress that think that way. Do you dislike them for talking about it too? Are they all attacking the Democratic Party?

If you strip out your dislike of her we could discuss the tax rates in general.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:15:34pm

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but Trump’s an old white guy, so when he uses obscenities he’s being ‘politically incorrect’, but when a woman, especially a younger woman of color does, it’s ‘demeaning herself’.

//

tRump doesn’t need to be a “credit to his race”, but all those other people do….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:15:44pm

it’s just nostalgia…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:16:15pm

re: #301 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

tRump doesn’t need to be a “credit to his race”, but all those other people do….

Lucky for him, because he’s not.

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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:16:38pm

re: #294 Blind Frog Belly White

Sorry to shine sun on your pity party, but Democrats actually did fucking GREAT in 2018.

Except for the Senate (53-47 R majority), and the state legislatures aren’t looking good either (Rs still control 62/99 chambers and hold 22 trifectas, including the nation’s 2nd, 3rd, 7th and 8th most populous states). Let’s be realistic about how high a hill we still must climb.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:18:22pm

re: #227 KGxvi

To use a poker analogy, it was basically an insta-call of a bluff. Which is about the worst thing that can happen to you if you’re bluffing. The whole point of which is to try and convince your opponent that you have a better hand than they do, when they insta-call it’s because they’ve got the stone cold nuts (or close) and you’re fucked.

Trump’s got 7-2 off suit and thinks he’s got a royal flush.

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freetoken  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:18:24pm

re: #304 Brian J.

Except for the Senate (53-47 R majority),

So, you’re ignoring the fact which everyone else noted, that the 2018 election for Senators was heavily against Democrats because of the overwhelming share of the seats were already held by Democrats, including two seats known to be in trouble in heavy Republican states (ND, IN)?

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bd(Redacted)  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:18:34pm

re: #298 Targetpractice

The “Fuck Your Feelings!” crowd who hailed Donny’s election as a victory of “PC culture” is up in arms over the word “motherfucker”?

FFS, is it really that slow a news week?

She just needs to put on this coat and everything will be fine:

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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:19:02pm

re: #300 ObserverArt

You sure have a thing against her don’t you?

Do you want to put that 70% in context?

As far as I know that is her talking about the rate for the super-rich. It has been done before. It was at 90% at one time in the 50s. But it really figured out to be around 50%

There are members here that have mentioned that before. Probably others in Congress that think that way. Do you dislike them for talking about it too? Are they all attacking the Democratic Party?

If you strip out your dislike of her we could discuss the tax rates in general.

It’s one thing to think it. It’s another thing to say it as another of the endless left-wing litmus tests. Mondale got blown out by asking for an increase literally a tenth of that size.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:19:50pm

re: #304 Brian J.

Except for the Senate (53-47 R majority), and the state legislatures aren’t looking good either (Rs still control 62/99 chambers and hold 22 trifectas, including the nation’s 2nd, 3rd, 7th and 8th most populous states). Let’s be realistic about how high a hill we still must climb.

And if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ primary opponent had retained his seat we’d hold the Senate and a majority of State Legislatures? Why, that bitch!

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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:20:32pm

re: #296 Blind Frog Belly White

You understand that the marginal rate is calculated as a percentage of income, not an absolute dollar amount, yes? Because what you just posted is irrelevant hogwash.

I’m an accountant; of course I understand! I’m just pointing out that the 1960s were not as great economically as the left would like to think. (And that’s without pointing out all of the things we take for granted that didn’t exist then. The internet, for instance…)

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:20:47pm

re: #229 dangerman (not steve)

way back i thought of keeping track of some info
just to sort every lizard out
then i thought it would be creepy
even if no one but me knew

now someone will reveal something and ill say “right i new that” because i forgot that i knew or who it was attached to

keeps things fresh

I’m Joanne. Registered name JustJay. I sign all my emails J. Just J.

Nice to meet cha.

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gwangung  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:21:35pm

Smart take here:

Read it all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:22:55pm

re: #304 Brian J.

No, dude, we did fucking great. Look where we were last year, look where we are now. That was the point of the link - to show you how much swung our way. We made HISTORIC gains, but you think they weren’t HISTORIC enough? And all because we didn’t run more mealy-mouthed Centrists who could really get people engaged and enthusiastic?

Right.

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gwangung  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:24:12pm

re: #313 Blind Frog Belly White

No, dude, we did fucking great. Look where we were last year, look where we are now. That was the point of the link - to show you how much swung our way. We made HISTORIC gains, but you think they weren’t HISTORIC enough? And all because we didn’t run more mealy-mouthed Centrists who could really get people engaged and enthusiastic?

Right.

Weren’t three or four of the Senate seats we lost held by centrist types? And not particularly leftist or progressive?

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:26:50pm

re: #304 Brian J.

Except for the Senate (53-47 R majority), and the state legislatures aren’t looking good either (Rs still control 62/99 chambers and hold 22 trifectas, including the nation’s 2nd, 3rd, 7th and 8th most populous states). Let’s be realistic about how high a hill we still must climb.

You first.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:26:50pm

re: #310 Brian J.

I’m an accountant; of course I understand! I’m just pointing out that the 1960s were not as great economically as the left would like to think. (And that’s without pointing out all of the things we take for granted that didn’t exist then. The internet, for instance…)

Uh, dude? It’s the RIGHT that talks nostalgically about The Economy I Grew Up In, while frantically tearing down all the things that we did that made it that way - high marginal tax rates, strong labor movement, infrastructure spending, actual spending on programs designed to expand the middle class.

We on the Left point out the hypocrisy of swanning over how great things used to be while destroying everything that made them that way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:28:51pm

re: #314 gwangung

Weren’t three or four of the Senate seats we lost held by centrist types? And not particularly leftist or progressive?

We did exceptionally well limiting losses to 2 seats, given the map we faced.

But the Senate is our biggest problem for the future, as it becomes less and less representative of America as a whole, and more and more representative of old white rural voters.

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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:29:27pm

re: #313 Blind Frog Belly White

No, dude, we did fucking great. Look where we were last year, look where we are now. That was the point of the link - to show you how much swung our way. We made HISTORIC gains, but you think they weren’t HISTORIC enough? And all because we didn’t run more mealy-mouthed Centrists who could really get people engaged and enthusiastic?

Right.

In the Senate, we spelled those gains L-O-S-S-E-S! In the states, the Republicans still hold majorities in both chambers in the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th most populous states. If 2018 is HISTORIC and the best you can imagine, you’re settling for too little.

Centrists got the great majority of those votes, by the way. BernieBros got hammered literally from Maine to San Diego, Miami to Seattle (and Alaska and Hawaii). Excitement don’t mean nothin’ unless it gets the votes.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:30:57pm

I am bemused by the kind of people that find “internment camp” perfectly acceptable but “motherfucker” obscene.

I am bemused by the kind of worldview where naughty words are a sign of poor discipline but constant deceit and emotional incontinence are just “normal.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:31:55pm
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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:32:23pm

re: #304 Brian J.

Except for the Senate (53-47 R majority), and the state legislatures aren’t looking good either (Rs still control 62/99 chambers and hold 22 trifectas, including the nation’s 2nd, 3rd, 7th and 8th most populous states). Let’s be realistic about how high a hill we still must climb.

Let’s look at one state legislature - Wisconsin. EVERY statewide office went Democrat. The GOP received fewer votes for assembly and state senate but hold a majority in both houses - Gerrymandering! So for now we won’t be able to accomplish as much as we’d like.

HOWEVER!

In 2020 is a census. That leads to reapportionment. Which will happen WITH A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR.

See, son, this is what is referred to as “Elections have consequences”. And they work both ways.

We will have a non-gerrymandered reapportionment before the 2022 elections. At that time, the people of Wisconsin will get a government that reflects how they vote. I’ll bet other states will be the same. So just because you didn’t see the progress happening in front of your nose does not mean that said progress didn’t happen. It did happen and will continue to happen by all the means available to real patriots fighting for (dare I go there? Yeah, why not?) “Truth, Justice & The American Way”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:32:48pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:33:42pm

Well, I guess it’s been proven false, you actually can argue with success.

*rolls eyes*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:34:19pm

re: #318 Brian J.

In the Senate, we spelled those gains L-O-S-S-E-S! In the states, the Republicans still hold majorities in both chambers in the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th most populous states. If 2018 is HISTORIC and the best you can imagine, you’re settling for too little.

Centrists got the great majority of those votes, by the way. BernieBros got hammered literally from Maine to San Diego, Miami to Seattle (and Alaska and Hawaii). Excitement don’t mean nothin’ unless it gets the votes.

It must suck to be you, and have to find the cloud in every silver lining.

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:34:32pm

re: #318 Brian J.

In the Senate, we spelled those gains L-O-S-S-E-S! In the states, the Republicans still hold majorities in both chambers in the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th most populous states. If 2018 is HISTORIC and the best you can imagine, you’re settling for too little.

Centrists got the great majority of those votes, by the way. BernieBros got hammered literally from Maine to San Diego, Miami to Seattle. Excitement don’t mean nothin’ unless it gets the votes.

Politics is like big ship. It takes time for a turnaround.

You want a speedboat.

Lots of times speedboats crash. Big ships can sink, but it takes time.

Also, Alexandria is one member of a party. She’s young and gung-ho I get that. She will learn and grow. You seem to want to gag her.

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Marsupial  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:34:33pm

re: #310 Brian J.

I’m an accountant; of course I understand!

Hey, I’m an accountant too! And put me down as one of those accountants who think the top tax rate should be a HELL of a lot higher than it is now. 70%? Maybe. It’s never an absolute number due to the various deductions/limitations/alternative investments, but, come on. Taxes are the buy-in to a functioning society.

It’s funny: the very-wealthy people that I work for (the individuals, anyway) loooove Trump, but they are pissed at him now because they saw their tax projections for 2018, and they are getting clobbered! All of those limitations (especially SALT) really burned wealthy individuals. Corporations — not so much.

(First post! Hi all — 9 year lurker here!)

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:35:41pm

EDIT.

re: #284 Brian J.

You’re always such a fucking ray of sunshine.

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Chrysicat  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:37:24pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:38:04pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Hey, I’m an accountant too! And put me down as one of those accountants who think the top tax rate should be a HELL of a lot higher than it is now. 70%? Maybe. It’s never an absolute number due to the various deductions/limitations/alternative investments, but, come on. Taxes are the buy-in to a functioning society.

It’s funny: the very-wealthy people that I work for (the individuals, anyway) loooove Trump, but they are pissed at him now because they saw their tax projections for 2018, and they are getting clobbered! All of those limitations (especially SALT) really burned wealthy individuals. Corporations — not so much.

(First post! Hi all — 9 year lurker here!)

Hi! Good to have you contributing.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:38:52pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Nice start. +1

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:39:50pm

re: #312 gwangung

Smart take here:

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Read it all.

That’s a heck of a thread.

It made me kinda sad. But it’s spot on.

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bd(Redacted)  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:41:33pm

re: #312 gwangung

Smart take here:

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Read it all.

that is good

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:43:16pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Welcome! Thanks for finally chiming in. We were starting to wonder about you. 😉

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:43:30pm

Andre Leon Talley (fashion journalist) on with Peggy Noonan, doing his Fallback Friday.

That is what I would call an odd couple!

Yikes! I forget to put Ari Melber in the sentence. It’s his Fallback Friday bit.

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Jack Burton  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:43:43pm

re: #325 ObserverArt

Also, Alexandria is one member of a party. She’s young and gung-ho I get that. She will learn and grow.

This. I don’t necessarily agree with everything she says, and I’m definitely not a Alexandria-Bro for lack of a better term at all, but I really don’t expect 39 year old or 59 year old AOC to have all the same positions, knowledge/ignorance, or opinions, as 29 year old AOC does.

That and unlike other popular people more to the left, she’s actually a member of the Democratic Party and not a carpetbagger that wanted all the advantages but none of the responsibilities that come with it.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:47:27pm

re: #328 Chrysicat

As a Canadian I’m not worried. I know how Canada can beat the US in a war.

In fact the GOP implemented my strategy without any help from me.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:48:24pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Welcome, hatchling. Good to have you here.

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gocart mozart  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:49:16pm
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Belafon  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:49:51pm

re: #289 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:51:08pm

re: #326 Marsupial

(First post! Hi all — 9 year lurker here!)

Welcome hatchling.

Tough shell?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:51:09pm

re: #338 gocart mozart

You had to include the Jersey Whale.

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Teukka  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:51:44pm

re: #338 gocart mozart

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:53:47pm
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Jack Burton  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:55:08pm

re: #343 Charles Johnson

Among motherfuckers, being called Mr. President probably is too.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:55:14pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Taxes are the buy-in to a functioning society.

I’ve always called taxes the membership dues for living in a civilized world, but that’s good too.

Welcome!

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:55:28pm

re: #317 Blind Frog Belly White

We did exceptionally well limiting losses to 2 seats, given the map we faced.

But the Senate is our biggest problem for the future, as it becomes less and less representative of America as a whole, and more and more representative of old white rural voters.

There’s a real question as to what happens when those old white rural voters age out of the employment market. Either the economy crashes in those areas, or younger, less white, more liberal/progressive/not-ass-backwards people will have to move into those areas. In either case, I suspect that the politics of those locations will likely change.

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gocart mozart  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:56:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:57:10pm

re: #345 William Lewis

I’ve always called taxes the membership dues for living in a civilized world, but that’s good too.

Welcome!

And I’ve suggested high marginal rates should be thought of as Guillotine Insurance.

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KGxvi  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:57:14pm

re: #328 Chrysicat

Wait, he’s seriously considering giving Alaska to Russia? How would that even work?

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2019 • 3:59:25pm

re: #343 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔

@Green_Footballs
Among musicians, being called a “motherfucker” is considered a high compliment.

6:53 PM - Jan 4, 2019

That motherfucker can wail!!!

That drummer is a bad motherfucker!

And with that I am heading down to turn on all the Friday night jam machines to warm up.

I’m the other type. I sometimes fall into that was bad motherfucker. But I love to wail.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:02:12pm

re: #350 ObserverArt

Maybe that is why Samuel L Jackson has that on his lightsaber. A bit of Star Wars trivia.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:02:14pm

re: #311 MsJ

I’m Joanne. Registered name JustJay. I sign all my emails J. Just J.

Nice to meet cha.

friends call me danger

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:03:01pm

re: #246 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

I’m not up enough on my Bruceology to respond intelligently.

“Immanuel Kant was a real pissant….”

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:03:21pm

re: #352 dangerman (not steve)

friends call me danger

Nick Danger.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:03:42pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Hey, I’m an accountant too! And put me down as one of those accountants who think the top tax rate should be a HELL of a lot higher than it is now. 70%? Maybe. It’s never an absolute number due to the various deductions/limitations/alternative investments, but, come on. Taxes are the buy-in to a functioning society.

It’s funny: the very-wealthy people that I work for (the individuals, anyway) loooove Trump, but they are pissed at him now because they saw their tax projections for 2018, and they are getting clobbered! All of those limitations (especially SALT) really burned wealthy individuals. Corporations — not so much.

(First post! Hi all — 9 year lurker here!)

there are enough accountants here to call out bs when we see it

didja bring snacks?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:03:59pm

re: #346 KGxvi

There’s a real question as to what happens when those old white rural voters age out of the employment market. Either the economy crashes in those areas, or younger, less white, more liberal/progressive/not-ass-backwards people will have to move into those areas. In either case, I suspect that the politics of those locations will likely change.

I think it just continues the economic decline. If you’re a company, why would you build a factory in Lower Cousinfuck WV? It’s expensive to get materials IN, it’s expensive to get finished goods OUT. The labor force is older and uneducated, largely only good for unskilled labor. Meanwhile, the world is chock full of unskilled labor you can get for a lot less. So much less, in fact, that it more than covers the extra cost of shipping. Plus, your market is now the world, not just the US, and you can’t build stuff in small towns in the US cheaply enough to sell worldwide at a profit.

Larger population centers, sure - hence making BMWs in South Carolina for the rest of the world. But all those small towns? Nah.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:05:28pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:06:16pm

re: #354 Barefoot Grin

Nick Danger.

that’s man. danger man.

nic(danger) is a lizard of a different color

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:06:56pm

re: #317 Blind Frog Belly White

We did exceptionally well limiting losses to 2 seats, given the map we faced.

But the Senate is our biggest problem for the future, as it becomes less and less representative of America as a whole, and more and more representative of old white rural voters.

Which is why, if the Democrats gain control of the Senate in 2020, they need to grant statehood to D.C. and Puerto Rico, at least. I’d add Pacific Islands as well; their very existence is threatened by climate change.

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Jay C  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:07:23pm

re: #346 KGxvi

There’s a real question as to what happens when those old white rural voters age out of the employment market. Either the economy crashes in those areas, or younger, less white, more liberal/progressive/not-ass-backwards people will have to move into those areas. In either case, I suspect that the politics of those locations will likely change.

On alternatively, the old white conservative ass-backward power structures in those states makes sure to promote (and, more importantly, finance) reactionary young assholes - of which, sadly, there seems to be an inexhaustible supply - to take and keep their places. “Progressive” populations notwithstanding.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:08:01pm

re: #354 Barefoot Grin

Nick Danger.

“…and reading my name on the glass door of my office: ‘regnaD kciN’.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:10:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:10:59pm

JFC, a “robust case??!”

What the fuck was this guy watching?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:11:10pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Its great that the House is going to pass some terrific legislation, and tragic that it will be DOA in the Senate.

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Marsupial  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:11:15pm

re: #333 MsJ

Welcome! Thanks for finally chiming in. We were starting to wonder about you. 😉

Yeah, well… most people do!

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nicdanger  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:12:22pm

re: #352 dangerman (not steve)

careful there buddy

////

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:13:34pm

re: #363 Charles Johnson

JFC, a “robust case??!”

What the fuck was this guy watching?

Well, for Trumpo it was a robust case. For someone sane? Not so much.

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Marsupial  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:13:56pm

re: #340 wrenchwench

Intimidating shell! I’m usually at Wonkette (hanging with my Wonket peeps)! It seems a bit more serious over here…

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:14:14pm

After all the contests, queries, on the perfect name for that asshole, it end up being the one name that’s always underlying the whole ball o wax.

“MotherFucker”

So it shall be going forward.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:14:21pm

re: #368 Marsupial

Intimidating shell! I’m usually at Wonkette (hanging with my Wonket peeps)! It seems a bit more serious over here…

Serious? Us? Surely you jest.

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nicdanger  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:14:34pm

re: #358 dangerman (not steve)

why,thank you sir

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:15:27pm

re: #361 Blind Frog Belly White

“…and reading my name on the glass door of my office: ‘regnaD kciN’.”

“You’re lucky we didn’t burn you on the Anselmo pederasty case!”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:15:27pm

re: #349 KGxvi

Wait, he’s seriously considering giving Alaska to Russia? How would that even work?

No, he’s not.

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Marsupial  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:16:06pm

re: #355 dangerman (not steve)

there are enough accountants here to call out bs when we see it

didja bring snacks?

Are you kidding — we’re starting tax season. It’s wall-to-wall snacks in here!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:16:30pm

re: #363 Charles Johnson

JFC, a “robust case??!”

What the fuck was this guy watching?

I read it not as saying Trump had made a robust case, but that he’d made as robust a case as he ever has, which doesn’t mean it’s actually robust by any stretch.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:16:35pm

Oklahomophobia:

“Bill making it legal to ban gays & lesbians from adopting passes in Oklahoma”

lgbtqnation.com

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:18:03pm

re: #376 Barefoot Grin

Oklahomophobia:

“Bill making it legal to ban gays & lesbians from adopting passes in Oklahoma”

lgbtqnation.com

Who will pay the lawyers???

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Interesting Times  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:18:08pm

Come to think of it, I’m kind of partial to that second-last option…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:19:12pm

re: #374 Marsupial

Are you kidding — we’re starting tax season. It’s wall-to-wall snacks in here!

That is what will end the shutdown; millions of taxpayers screaming at their Congress critters for their refunds.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:19:40pm

re: #378 Interesting Times

Come to think of it, I’m kind of partial to that second-last option…

How about “patrolling emus wearing GoPros and lasers”?

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:21:03pm

re: #352 dangerman (not steve)

friends call me danger

You’re keeping a log on yourself? Do you often forget who you are?
/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:22:10pm

re: #368 Marsupial

Intimidating shell! I’m usually at Wonkette (hanging with my Wonket peeps)! It seems a bit more serious over here…

Huh. I’m not sure I’d ever see this place as serious. Here, let me lighten up the place with this picture of Dory sitting on the back of a chair, as if she were a cat….

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:23:08pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Hey, I’m an accountant too! And put me down as one of those accountants who think the top tax rate should be a HELL of a lot higher than it is now. 70%? Maybe. It’s never an absolute number due to the various deductions/limitations/alternative investments, but, come on. Taxes are the buy-in to a functioning society.

It’s funny: the very-wealthy people that I work for (the individuals, anyway) loooove Trump, but they are pissed at him now because they saw their tax projections for 2018, and they are getting clobbered! All of those limitations (especially SALT) really burned wealthy individuals. Corporations — not so much.

(First post! Hi all — 9 year lurker here!)

Welcome, long-toothed hatchling. :) About time you spoke up! Did you bring beer?

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:23:38pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Hey, I’m an accountant too! And put me down as one of those accountants who think the top tax rate should be a HELL of a lot higher than it is now. 70%? Maybe. It’s never an absolute number due to the various deductions/limitations/alternative investments, but, come on. Taxes are the buy-in to a functioning society.

It’s funny: the very-wealthy people that I work for (the individuals, anyway) loooove Trump, but they are pissed at him now because they saw their tax projections for 2018, and they are getting clobbered! All of those limitations (especially SALT) really burned wealthy individuals. Corporations — not so much.

(First post! Hi all — 9 year lurker here!)

Hey long time first time!

You’ve summed up the difference between effective tax rates and marginal tax rates.

The marginal rate could start at 37%, but with the deductions and credits, the effective tax rate for someone whose income would otherwise qualify for the top tax rate, could end up with a far lower rate. Depending on carryovers, credits, and other deductions, you could conceivably end up paying less than most middle class folks - making your effective rate far lower.

This is the game that the GOP plays. They demand that not only the top tax rate be dropped (marginal rate), but that very specific kinds of credits and deductions be made available to the rich, so that their effective rate would be far lower.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:24:58pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:26:37pm

re: #373 NO SMOCKING GUN!

No, he’s not.

I’m no longer 100% sure he isn’t. That’s noise Putin’s been making since 2014, and we all know that Trump eventually echoes anything Putin says. Catch him on the right day and he may well try to sell it back and hope that the Rs still won’t vote to convict.

The good news is, it would probably take a treaty to pull off and even this senate isn’t likely to ratify.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:27:33pm

re: #382 Blind Frog Belly White

Huh. I’m not sure I’d ever see this place as serious. Here, let me lighten up the place with this picture of Dory sitting on the back of a chair, as if she were a cat….

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My cavalier King Charles spaniel does that. Actually, that’s kinda how she lives her entire life. (Laziest dog EVER.)

How much does Dory weigh now?

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:30:29pm

re: #385 jaunte

And we can trace it back to the GOP platform switcheroo where they went from supporting Ukraine to basically throwing it under the bus.

There was little discussion, little in the way of media curiosity, and that has still never been answered satisfactorily.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:30:54pm

re: #387 MsJ

My cavalier King Charles spaniel does that. Actually, that’s kinda how she lives her entire life. (Laziest dog EVER.)

How much does Dory weigh now?

About 10#. Sometimes I look at her and she seems so BIG, because of how small she was when we got her (2.5#), but then Rango comes along and she looks tiny again!

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fern01  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:31:33pm

re: #376 Barefoot Grin

Oklahomophobia:

“Bill making it legal to ban gays & lesbians from adopting passes in Oklahoma”

lgbtqnation.com

Sounding like the laws that made the Loving marriage illegal.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:32:12pm

re: #379 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That is what will end the shutdown; millions of taxpayers screaming at their Congress critters for their refunds.

I pointed this out to a (pro tRump) Co-Worker today. With the IRS shut down, her tax return will not be processed and she will not be getting anything back until the Gov. is back and running. She was NOT happy.

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Chrysicat  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:32:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:33:22pm

re: #326 Marsupial

Hey, welcome to Mr. Johnson’s Support Centre for Sane People.

re: #368 Marsupial

Intimidating shell! I’m usually at Wonkette (hanging with my Wonket peeps)! It seems a bit more serious over here…

I thought I’ve seen you around before. /s I don’t go by the same name there, but do use the same avatar.

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unproven innocence  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:33:31pm

re: #378 Interesting Times

Come to think of it, I’m kind of partial to that second-last option…

Or we could become such a shithole country that no sane person would ever want to come here, so no border wall would be needed. Not by us, anyway. //

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:33:34pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:34:34pm

re: #386 Chrysicat

I’m no longer 100% sure he isn’t. That’s noise Putin’s been making since 2014, and we all know that Trump eventually echoes anything Putin says. Catch him on the right day and he may well try to sell it back and hope that the Rs still won’t vote to convict.

The good news is, it would probably take a treaty to pull off and even this senate isn’t likely to ratify.

I am. C’mon Trump is an incoherent, dangerous idiot, and a criminal to boot, so we don’t have to exaggerate. He can’t sell a state in the union to Russia, and even Trump isn’t demented enough to try, especially since Alaska is one of those small rural population red states that reliably send Republicans to the Senate and will provide 3 critically needed electoral votes to Trump in 2020, if he runs again.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:35:19pm

re: #352 dangerman (not steve)

friends call me danger

Then together we’re Danger ‘Mouse.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:35:28pm

re: #370 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Serious? Us? Surely you jest.

Don’t call him Shirley.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:35:43pm

re: #388 lawhawk

And we can trace it back to the GOP platform switcheroo where they went from supporting Ukraine to basically throwing it under the bus.

There was little discussion, little in the way of media curiosity, and that has still never been answered satisfactorily.

Part of Manafort’s paying down the debt he owes to Russia.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:36:14pm

re: #398 Decatur Deb

Now there is no making fun of my late mom’s first name.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:36:45pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:36:57pm

re: #394 unproven innocence

Or we could become such a shithole country that no sane person would ever want to come here, so no border wall would be needed. Not by us, anyway. //

I’ve said before and I’ll say again, particularly when Trump was trying to re-construct the Inner German Border on our southern one, it was never primarily intended to keep anyone out, but to keep the targeted minorities in until they could dispose of us more permanently.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:37:03pm

re: #386 Chrysicat

I’m no longer 100% sure he isn’t. That’s noise Putin’s been making since 2014, and we all know that Trump eventually echoes anything Putin says. Catch him on the right day and he may well try to sell it back and hope that the Rs still won’t vote to convict.

The good news is, it would probably take a treaty to pull off and even this senate isn’t likely to ratify.

Well, at least it would make it easier for Sarah Palin to see Russia from her front porch.

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b_sharp  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:37:21pm

V just called Trump the biggest idiot in the world.

He’s so impressive he excels at being an idiot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:39:15pm

re: #402 Chrysicat

I’ve said before and I’ll say again, particularly when Trump was trying to re-construct the Inner German Border on our southern one, it was never primarily intended to keep anyone out, but to keep the targeted minorities in until they could dispose of us more permanently.

Pat Robertson ran on that very idea when he ran for President.

The “Anti-Fascist Rampart” as it was promoted in the DDR was never really about keeping fascists out either.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:39:16pm

re: #391 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

I pointed this out to a (pro tRump) Co-Worker today. With the IRS shut down, her tax return will not be processed and she will not be getting anything back until the Gov. is back and running. She was NOT happy.

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Jay C  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:39:47pm

re: #396 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I am. C’mon Trump is an incoherent, dangerous idiot, and a criminal to boot, so we don’t have to exaggerate. He can’t sell a state in the union to Russia, and even Trump isn’t demented enough to try, especially since Alaska is one of those small rural population red states that reliably send Republicans to the Senate and will provide 3 critically needed electoral votes to Trump in 2020, if he runs again.

Not to mention the fact that even if Trump wanted to sell Alaska back to the Russians, they would never be able to afford it.
(We have made a few improvements to the place since 1867…)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:41:21pm

re: #407 Jay C

Not to mention the fact that even if Trump wanted to sell Alaska back to the Russians, they would never be able to afford it.
(We have made a few improvements to the place since 1867…)

Do they get Don Young and all the Palins? Russia might consider them blight on the property.

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:42:00pm

re: #375 Blind Frog Belly White

I read it not as saying Trump had made a robust case, but that he’d made as robust a case as he ever has, which doesn’t mean it’s actually robust by any stretch.

Ayeah, that was my read, that he made the most robust case he could. Granted, it’s batshit insane bullshit, but it’s the most robust case he’s made so far.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:42:27pm

re: #402 Chrysicat

, but to keep the targeted minorities in until they could dispose of us more permanently.

Ding Ding Ding Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.

Yet another explanation of why the left needs to arm itself. It won’t stop them any more than it could have saved the Jews of Germany but damn if it isn’t good to take an honor guard with you to hell.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:42:47pm

Collins has to go. I hope this bullshit she’s pulling is realized by her voters. Gah.

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plansbandc  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:43:51pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:43:51pm

re: #363 Charles Johnson

JFC, a “robust case??!”

What the fuck was this guy watching?

He’s a “journalist” who must find something positive to say about all Republians, unless “robust” now means insane and no one told me.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:44:02pm
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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:46:03pm
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Mattand  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:46:47pm

re: #411 MsJ

Collins has to go. I hope this bullshit she’s pulling is realized by her voters. Gah.

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LOL, Collins will be anti-wall until McConnell makes a “Honest I won’t screw you over THIS time” promise to give her something she wants. She’ll fall far it and he’ll fuck her over again.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:47:56pm

re: #407 Jay C

Not to mention the fact that even if Trump wanted to sell Alaska back to the Russians, they would never be able to afford it.
(We have made a few improvements to the place since 1867…)

We fixed the heating system, fer instance.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:47:58pm

re: #368 Marsupial

Intimidating shell! I’m usually at Wonkette (hanging with my Wonket peeps)! It seems a bit more serious over here…

True LGF membership requires fulfilling at least one sinister-yet-opaque request involving a suitcase full of panda meat and a minimum of one radical relocation while drugged with scopolamine.

We can joke and have fun, but ultimately we’ve all agree to gouge the same hole in our spirit and conscience.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:48:32pm

re: #418 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

True LGF membership requires fulfilling at least one sinister-yet-opaque request involving a suitcase full of panda meat and a minimum of one radical relocation while drugged with scopolamine.

Wait, what? Is this why I’ve been skipped over for promotion so many times?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:48:52pm

I actually agree with the tactic of letting Mueller play on, as painful as the wait is. But I loved this, nonetheless:

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:50:06pm

re: #407 Jay C

Who said anything about selling?

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plansbandc  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:50:17pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:50:39pm

re: #421 Skip Intro

Who said anything about selling?

State lottery?

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:50:56pm

Dear LA lizards,

Please spread the word and help this poor baby.

Thank you.

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plansbandc  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:51:58pm

re: #424 MsJ

That is so sad. Oh geez.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:55:28pm

re: #418 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

True LGF membership requires fulfilling at least one sinister-yet-opaque request involving a suitcase full of panda meat and a minimum of one radical relocation while drugged with scopolamine.

We can joke and have fun, but ultimately we’ve all agree to gouge the same hole in our spirit and conscience.

Or at least post a Page.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:57:12pm

re: #419 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wait, what? Is this why I’ve been skipped over for promotion so many times?

Look, I’m just the front desk manager of this conspiracy network. I have absolutely no clue by what criterion we are all judged. To be honest, it all seems to be a bit ramshackle and running on a thin budget. For awhile there we had to switch over to lemurs in a duffle bag, and the druggings are so haphazard that sometimes the targets just have a really good time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:57:32pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:58:55pm

re: #428 Anymouse 🌹

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Didn’t Bella Abzug blow the no-hat rule to hell?

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Jay C  Jan 4, 2019 • 4:59:06pm

re: #421 Skip Intro

Who said anything about selling?

Oh right, it’s Donald Trump: he wouldn’t just try to sell Alaska to Russia, he’s more likely to structure it as a nominal “sale” with elaborate lease-back arrangements, naming rights and trademark provisions: the debt allocated out among a host of third-world tax-haven shell companies, and all expenses written off (except for a multi-billion-dollar “commission” payable to the Barron Trump Foundation). Trump is pathetically poor at anything approaching normal “diplomacy”, but if it’s structured along the lines of a shady real-estate scam, I’m sure he’d come up with a dandy plan….

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:03:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:04:10pm

re: #429 Decatur Deb

Didn’t Bella Abzug blow the no-hat rule to hell?

She ignored the rule when she was in the House.

Rep. Ilhan notes the rule was eliminated yesterday.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:04:42pm

re: #431 Charles Johnson

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The national emergency is real, but should resolve itself by Fall of 2020.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:06:56pm

National emergency because of southern border bringing massive troops: let’s call it, I dunno, Jade Helm.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:07:25pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:09:11pm

re: #434 Barefoot Grin

National emergency because of southern border bringing massive troops: let’s call it, I dunno, Jade Helm.

“Operation Enduring Derp” is in the rotation.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:10:30pm

re: #435 Anymouse 🌹

I am sure there are a few mothers and possibly grandmothers in that group who should take the terrible toddler to task on his decision to declare a national emergency to get a wall.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:13:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:15:37pm
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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:15:40pm

Oh. My.

Madonna’s ‘Proud Of Her Hot Body’ At 60 As Fans Continue To Go Wild Over Butt Implant Rumors

Tim McGovern
WEEKEND EDITOR
Madonna is feeling ‘proud’ of how she’s looking at 60! A source close to Madonna told HL EXCLUSIVELY how she feels about all of the butt implant rumors surrounding her!

Madonna is looking as amazing as ever — and she’s proud of it! A source close to Madonna told HollywoodLife EXCLUSIVELY that amid rumors that she has had butt implants, she’s “loving” breaking down stereotypes.

If you feel the need, the article is here: hollywoodlife.com

Rolling Stone has a slightly less breathless take here: rollingstone.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:18:02pm
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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:19:09pm

re: #439 plansbandc

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That is a great song but I have to admit I have a weakness for the Fugees version.

The Fugees (DAE) - 8 Killing me softly

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:19:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:19:54pm
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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:20:44pm

“…Larger, wealthier property owners who could afford lawyers negotiated deals that, on average, tripled the opening bids from Homeland Security. Smaller and poorer landholders took whatever the government offered — or wrung out small increases in settlements. The government conceded publicly that landowners without lawyers might wind up shortchanged, but did little to protect their interests.”
texastribune.org

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:21:01pm

“…On occasion, Homeland Security paid people for property they did not actually own. The agency did not attempt to recover the misdirected taxpayer funds, instead paying for land a second time once it determined the correct owners.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:21:16pm

Katie Porter (D, Calif.-45) turned 45 on the day of her swearing in as a new representative.

With Nancy Pelosi’s hit the ground running strategy on the first day of the new session, she got home very late. Her family saved the birthday party for her when she got home.

Voice of America is doing a series on her and Pete Stauber (R, Minn.-8) as they learn the ropes of being new representatives.

voanews.com

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Marsupial  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:22:34pm

re: #379 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That is what will end the shutdown; millions of taxpayers screaming at their Congress critters for their refunds.

I’m thinking more along the lines of millions of taxpayers, expecting Trump-promised refunds but getting big bills instead, taking to the streets — torches and pitchforks style. (Of course, they will blame Obama/Pelosi/Schumer/AOC/Clinton (both)/etc.)

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plansbandc  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:23:12pm

re: #443 William Lewis

Just found out she wrote it about Don McLean. How did I not know that? I’m gonna have to light my music knowledge card on fire.

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Marsupial  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:23:30pm

re: #383 makeitstop

Welcome, long-toothed hatchling. :) About time you spoke up! Did you bring beer?

More of a gin person, myself!

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plansbandc  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:25:59pm

Why is everything OK if you are a Republican? It’s fucking bullshit every damn day.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:26:08pm

re: #441 William Lewis

Oh. My.

If you feel the need, the article is here: hollywoodlife.com

Rolling Stone has a slightly less breathless take here: rollingstone.com

Did you see the pictures? They weren’t in either article.

First, she’s gained weight. Her thighs were…thick. No biggie, just an observation.

Second, I don’t know what was in her butt but it was weird. Like imagine a bra for a woman that’s a 38FF (which is pretty big!) and that’s what her butt looked like.

No one does that on purpose.

It’s like lip enlargement that’s gone wrong (Lisa Rinna wrong).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:26:14pm

re: #445 Charles Johnson

With 699,442 karma chameleon points here, it should be no trouble to push our esteemed host over 700,000 in short order.

Is this like a mechanical odometer, where after reaching 999,999 it goes to 0?

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:27:23pm

re: #451 Marsupial

More of a gin person, myself!

Gin? You have my sympathy child. I will pray that you are born again into the faith of the true brown spirit, distilled from barley and aged in oak, that gives us the true meaning of “Water of Life” …
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;D

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:27:39pm

re: #454 Anymouse 🌹

Probably not.

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bd(Redacted)  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:27:55pm

SHOCKED!!!!

FORT WORTH
A pastor known for calling Orlando shooting victims at a gay nightclub “scum” in 2016 has been ousted from his Fort Worth church for “sleeping with prostitutes,” marijuana possession and gambling, according to a fellow pastor.

star-telegram.com

The sooner Christians take back the Christian Church the better

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b_sharp  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:28:04pm

re: #441 William Lewis

Oh. My.

If you feel the need, the article is here: hollywoodlife.com

Rolling Stone has a slightly less breathless take here: rollingstone.com

Madonna needs to fade away.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:31:32pm

re: #453 MsJ

Did you see the pictures? They weren’t in either article.

First, she’s gained weight. Her thighs were…thick. No biggie, just an observation.

Second, I don’t know what was in her butt but it was weird. Like imagine a bra for a woman that’s a 38FF (which is pretty big!) and that’s what her butt looked like.

No one does that on purpose.

It’s like lip enlargement that’s gone wrong (Lisa Rinna wrong).

Ah, no I will admit I did not google for pics. I was expecting somthing less … unusual? She was never someone bad looking so why presume otherwise?
(googles.) (Oh. My.)
Weight is expected at 50+. My high school GF at 50+ & two children later is 200 lbs (6’ helps her - I wish I carried my fat ass that well) but I see what you mean.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:32:14pm

I’m going to have to take down the town flags Monday.

A widespread strong wind event looks to be taking shape across southeast Wyoming and Nebraska Panhandle for the start of the next work week. Winds begin increasing in the wind prone areas of southeast Wyoming (Arlington, Bordeaux, south Laramie Range) Sunday evening, becoming widespread Monday afternoon. Wind gusts in excess of 75 to 80 mph in our wind prone areas Monday afternoon with the lower elevation areas seeing gusts in excess of 60-65 mph across southeast Wyoming. Gusts could approach 60-65 mph in parts of the Panhandle Monday afternoon and evening. Stay informed of the wind forecast if you’re planning travel through southeast Wyoming Sunday night through Monday night. Expect travel delays and possible road closures as wind gusts of 80 mph will likely close parts of the interstates. Blowoff/Blowover risk likely to be EXTREME during this time, especially for high profile and light weight vehicles and those towing campers.

That ought to do something for the wind chill around here.

weather.gov

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Marsupial  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:32:18pm

re: #455 William Lewis

Gin? You have my sympathy child. I will pray that you are born again into the faith of the true brown spirit, distilled from barley and aged in oak, that gives us the true meaning of “Water of Life” …

My wife & I bought a house earlier this year. Didn’t intend to get a fixer-upper, but… cheap-shit mid-90s construction & years of poor maintenance. Woke up at 5am a couple of weeks ago to a hellish crashing sound. Discovered that our “liquor shelf” in the pantry collapsed and sent booze and glass everywhere. The ONLY (glass) thing to survive was my bottle of Sapphire. It was a sign. Berries of enlightenment.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:32:24pm

I’m proud to announce that the Trump lawnmower boy photo is now included in the Meme Machine’s “Classic Pics” because it never gets old.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:34:12pm

Two women who worked directly for Trump and Flotus.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:34:49pm

re: #461 Marsupial

My wife & I bought a house earlier this year. Didn’t intend to get a fixer-upper, but… cheap-shit mid-90s construction & years of poor maintenance. Woke up at 5am a couple of weeks ago to a hellish crashing sound. Discovered that our “liquor shelf” in the pantry collapsed and sent booze and glass everywhere. The ONLY (glass) thing to survive was my bottle of Sapphire. It was a sign. Berries of enlightenment.

Hah! You’ll do well around here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:34:56pm

re: #459 William Lewis

Ah, no I will admit I did not google for pics. I was expecting somthing less … unusual? She was never someone bad looking so why presume otherwise?
(googles.) (Oh. My.)
Weight is expected at 50+. My high school GF at 50+ & two children later is 200 lbs (6’ helps her - I wish I carried my fat ass that well) but I see what you mean.

So when do I start? /s

A lot of it I guess depends on your genetics … my mother and I are both 115#

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:36:25pm

re: #465 Anymouse 🌹

So when do I start? /s

A lot of it I guess depends on your genetics … my mother and I are both 115#

Well, Wisconsin farm kids put on weight as parents :D

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:36:59pm

re: #366 nicdanger

careful there buddy

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that’s steve, not buddy

//

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:38:20pm

re: #397 Anymouse 🌹

Then together we’re Danger ‘Mouse.

an underrated series

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:39:03pm

nobody puts baby in a corner (Squeak, actually)

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gwangung  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:42:24pm

re: #463 jaunte

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Two women who worked directly for Trump and Flotus.

Did anyone else think that this is a massive security breach?

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:43:19pm

re: #437 PhillyPretzel

I am sure there are a few mothers and possibly grandmothers in that group who should take the terrible toddler to task on his decision to declare a national emergency to get a wall.

Grandmothers will be our salvation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:43:34pm

Cussy Congresswoman Badass Making Chris Cillizza Cry :(
Chris Cillizza leading the parade!
(Wonkette, more at the link):

The word on everybody’s lips today is “motherfucker,” which everyone hears at least once each Christmas while watching Die Hard. Brand-spanking new congresswoman Rashida Tlaib of Michigan used the word in public last night, and it’s apparently an affront to common decency. Speaking of which, Donald Trump, the subject of Tlaib’s scorn, uses foul language all the time. He’s dismissed countries as “shitholes.” He’s been caught on tape boasting of grabbing women by their “pussies” and called Sally Yates a “****.” There’s also definitely, maybe recordings of Trump using a particular slur for black people that the editrix won’t let me type here. It’s possible that in the future, historians won’t even bother referring to the 45th president by his birth name but will just call him “that motherfucker.”

However, you can’t beat Trump by joining him. That’s the savvy political advice Chris Cillizza offered today. There are so many mediocre white guys out there coming for Rep. Tlaib that Cillizza’s piece is a convenient one-stop shop for all the dumbest of dumb takes. When CNN wises up some wonderful day and fires his ass, Cillizza can just open up a “dumb take shop” in a small town where women don’t swear or dance. Seriously, this motherfucker is always wrong, as we shall now demonstrate.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:43:37pm

re: #470 gwangung

There’s no telling who else his complicit staff gave out fake papers to, or helped conceal from the Secret Service.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:44:04pm

re: #469 dangerman (not steve)

nobody puts baby in a corner (Squeak, actually)

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Who dat?

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:44:43pm

re: #470 gwangung

Did anyone else think that this is a massive security breach?

Everything about him is. Unsecured wifi. Unsecured mobile. Everything.

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MsJ  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:45:48pm

Trump swears like a drunken sailor on shore leave.

Donald Trump Swearing ***Graphic Language***

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:47:54pm

re: #431 Charles Johnson

Agreed, but right on they go, just treating this as close to normal.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:49:18pm

Because of course.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:50:01pm

Federal workers may get evicted and go bankrupt, but the Emoluments must roll on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:50:57pm

re: #479 jaunte

Federal workers may get evicted and go bankrupt, but the Emoluments must roll on.

So fucking blatant.

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Interesting Times  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:52:29pm

Charles got a Sarah Kendzior retweet:

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:55:18pm
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jaunte  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:55:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:55:50pm

Britney Spears has cancelled her concert tour, saying her father almost died and she needs to be with her family. She says ticket refunds can be obtained from the original seller.

Britney Announces Indefinite Work Hiatus

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:57:02pm

re: #476 MsJ

Trump swears like a drunken sailor on shore leave.

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Drunken sailor on shore leave libelz. I knew plenty of drunken sailors on shore leave who did no such thing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2019 • 5:58:52pm

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2019 • 6:05:20pm

The new congresswoman who took Beto’s seat, Veronica Escobar, has hired to her staff a woman who co-authored a book with Beto, and served alongside Beto on the El Paso city council, Susie Byrd, who has continued with her own career in between. Makes me think Veronica Escobar is one to watch, and so is Susie Byrd.

Escobar’s husband, Michael Pleters, is an immigration judge.

Ooh, too late to qualify as a CL!

/I am not worthy anyway…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 4, 2019 • 6:06:04pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

He’s such a narcissistic fucker if he thinks his “historic win” means he can’t be impeached. His victory really was unspectacular at best.

That will be my favorite melt down ever. And you know me I do photograph melt downs a couple times a month.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 4, 2019 • 6:07:34pm

re: #486 Eclectic Cyborg

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Do you know what this typeface is called? I try to add text to photos in Preview, and go through the umpty-jillion faces they’ve got and can’t find exactly what I want….

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 4, 2019 • 6:09:36pm

re: #455 William Lewis

Gin is whiskey for people who like flavors other than “oak.”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 4, 2019 • 6:19:54pm

re: #474 MsJ

Who dat?

That’s squeak the cat
We call her Zuul

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2019 • 6:25:10pm

re: #139 KGxvi

(Also, no, I don’t actually believe Johnson was responsible for Kennedy’s assassination, I think Oswald acted alone)

The Warren Commission got it right. Oswald was a frustrated 23 year old radical leftist who learned to shoot in the Marines and saw a golden opportunity to change the world and he took it.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 4, 2019 • 6:31:25pm

re: #473 jaunte

There’s no telling who else his complicit staff gave out fake papers to, or helped conceal from the Secret Service.

Couldn’t keep their Russian sounding names. So here you go Dmitry, you are now Bob.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2019 • 7:37:39pm

re: #490 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

Gin is whiskey for people who like flavors other than “oak.”

There are people that unlucky in this life?

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CleverToad  Jan 4, 2019 • 10:45:37pm

re: #411 MsJ

Collins has to go. I hope this bullshit she’s pulling is realized by her voters. Gah.

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Cory Gardner is being reminded that there are one heckuva lot of Federal employees amongst his Colorado constituents…


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