Colbert: We’ve Come a Long Way From ‘No Collusion’
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It’s been a long journey from ‘No collusion!’ to ‘I never said there was no collusion between the campaign.’
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I’m so old, I remember when the assertion was that nobody in the Trump campaign had ever been in contact with Russian officials or Russians linked to the Russian government.
re: #1 Targetpractice
I’m so old, I remember when the assertion was that nobody in the Trump campaign had ever been in contact with Russian officials or Russians linked to the Russian government.
I’m so old, I remember when Rudy was actively denying any and all collusion with Trump and his campaign
Oh dear… a “scientist”. Well tell me then, if I scrape a skin cell off and it has DNA (and it most certainly does), then is that skin cell a person?
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
i hope to be old enough to talk about the feeling when all of these criminals were tried, convicted and sent to prison…. my gut says its going to take some time to make that happen.
Grifting the religious today:
God made a decree in Jacob, established a law in Israel: Which he commanded our ancestors,they were to teach their children;…that they too might put their confidence in God, And not forget God’s deeds, but keep his commandments.
Psalms 78:5-7— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) January 18, 2019
He’s being owned in the replies.
About this new Buzzfeed scoop - it sounds damning (Trump ordered Cohen to lie to Congress) but I really don’t trust Jason Leopold. He’s a snake.
re: #702 wrenchwench
And the science, however grounded (or not) in facts, is an avoidance mechanism invoked against dealing with what it comes down to: who gets to declare when the rights of the host of the blastosphere/embryo/fetus are overridden by whatever somebody thinks are the rights and/or desires of the early bits of human?
I find it ridiculous on its face that the rights of anything or anyone should have consideration over the rights of a female old enough to conceive.
ima have to re-up this from below
for me, that’s always been the core - the slope of the trajectory from a fertilized egg (or even before) to a born child is gradual with no discernible point at which personhood can be objectively identified, so when does a single discrete constitutionally protected life “begin”?
for the religious right, personhood got pushed further and further back to the beginning
for me there is no right to life. there is the right to a chance at life.
there is still a test / hurdle that must be passed - birth/delivery. and for the most part we don’t punish the caretakers if the hurdle is not crossed successfully
but make no mistake - this is the only time in the course of ‘a life’ where one must pass (through) a physical process or test to garner additional rights.
“turning” 18 or 21 is not the same as surviving the birthing process.
So *any* point at which a constitutionally protected human life/ person is defined is somewhat arbitrary because there is no dispassionate objective point. it ‘could be’ a fertilized egg. it ‘could be’ who has survived the birth process.
i see the right’s arguments as irrelevant. it’s a religious argument. not a scientific argument. Nor a legal one.
“personhood” is a legal argument. not a scientific argument. nor a religious one.
im fine with an agreed upon arbitrary legal place - as long as everybody recognizes that it is that, not some “religiously justified” legal place
re: #6 Charles Johnson
Which is why I try to direct replies (to Trumpers) to all the other recent revelations, such as the WSJ article on Cohen and the cash.
re: #2 Myron Falwell
I’m so old, I remember when Rudy was actively denying any and all collusion with Trump and his campaign
rudy said the campaign isnt his client so he doesnt speak for the campaign
…except when he does
re: #3 freetoken
Educate yourself. Science has proven that at the moment of conception the single cell is
ahuman life with the DNA of a human being. I’m a scientist. I don’t abuse science.
sooooo close
off by a one letter word
re: #6 Charles Johnson
About this new Buzzfeed scoop - it sounds damning (Trump ordered Cohen to lie to Congress) but I really don’t trust Jason Leopold. He’s a snake.
On the one hand, I’m still skeptical and treating this report as suspect until corroborated by another source.
On the other, Buzzfeed was the first on the “dossier” and that still holds up very well 2 years later.
She’s still trying:
Today’s march, which you support, is part of a long line of attempts to write into law prohibitions against any and all abortions. It’s a political action attempting to enforce a religious belief.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
re: #11 Targetpractice
On the one hand, I’m still skeptical and treating this report as suspect until corroborated by another source.
On the other, Buzzfeed was the first on the “dossier” and that still holds up very well 2 years later.
Yeah, it’s not Buzzfeed I don’t trust - it’s Leopold.
CL’ed. I brought the treats upstairs.
Key Lime Pie pic.twitter.com/bLTL77sDHo
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) January 18, 2019
Key Lime Pie with whipped cream pic.twitter.com/7JjsKCEmIC
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) January 18, 2019
New @ajc poll out of GEORGIA testing politicians favorability —>
Donald Trump (R): 37/56 (!)
Gov. Brian Kemp (R): 37/46
Stacey Abrams (D): 52/40
Sen. David Perdue (R): 45/31
Gov. Nathan Deal (R): 57/26https://t.co/li2Xf1FVFq— Chris Lee (@politico_chris) January 18, 2019
This is a sign that something is serious fucked up in Georgia. The person that won the Governor election just a couple of months ago is far, far less popular than the person that lost. https://t.co/ipLo8td2Yp
— skullsinthestars (@drskyskull) January 18, 2019
Stolen election.
Trying to get the class to work on Elie Weisal’s Night and Holocaust…
re: #13 Charles Johnson
Yeah, it’s not Buzzfeed I don’t trust - it’s Leopold.
Agreed, I’m taking the whole with a grain of salt.
Oliver Darcy is getting trashed on Twitter for this article, but it’s all factual.
—@JasonLeopold and @a_cormier_ have scored a number of scoops for BuzzFeed on the Trump Tower Moscow project. But the intense attention has also resurfaced Leopold’s checkered past. My story: https://t.co/yuIXpkM2Vg
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) January 18, 2019
re: #4 piratedan
i hope to be old enough to talk about the feeling when all of these criminals were tried, convicted and sent to prison…. my gut says its going to take some time to make that happen.
eat your vegetables
ive been through:
watergate
iran/contra
abscam
keating
savings and loan
bork
whitewater / everything clinton
clarence thomas
plame/libby
lawyergate
yellowcake
ad nauseum and ad infinito
damn it’s no wonder im tired
re: #1 Targetpractice
I’m so old, I remember when the assertion was that nobody in the Trump campaign had ever been in contact with Russian officials or Russians linked to the Russian government.
Probably about time for us all to brush up again on the fact that it was f**king Mike Pence who made the rounds throughout December 2016 and lied repeatedly about how “of course there were no contacts between anyone on the campaign and the Russians”. Gotta get those news clips back in regular rotation. #Pelosi2019
Sure… anything you say… pic.twitter.com/ZarJ28XfRL
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
It would be priceless that the website most famous for cat memes is responsible for bringing down Donnie.
I think I’ll refrain from mentioning my unpopular opinion about Leopold on Twitter. He’s being lionized right now, and anyone who tries to speak up is getting swarmed.
re: #21 freetoken
Who cares? They have a vile, bullying cursing President. They don’t get to dictate what women can do with their bodies. Someone should ask them about the children separated from their parents, places in cages and put into the foster care system just because they’re seeking asylum. What about their lives?
Snowing in my neck of the woods
Hmm, so probably not “taps aff” weather in Glasgow, then.
— Michael James (@alephnaught) January 18, 2019
re: #22 Dr. Matt
It would be priceless that the website most famous for cat memes is responsible for bringing down Donnie.
Would go well with the biggest break in the whole mess coming from federal investigators looking into Cohen after his bank records were obtained in the course of a lawsuit over pay-offs to a porn star.
re: #25 Patricia Kayden
“They” are attempting to pass laws, and they have put in place religious zealots like Pence to do just that.
There are plenty of people tweeting in the #marchforlife stream about the hypocrisy on display in the Trump administration, but the anti-abortion fanatics just don’t care. They have been programmed for over 4 decades to believe that abortion is the only thing that matters.
re: #28 freetoken
Their hypocrisy destroys any moral strength of their forced birtherism. If you don’t care about the children who are suffering, I’m not interested in what you have to say about fetuses or pregnant women’s reproductive choices. Keep that to yourself.
From the Birther and Seth Rich story network: Chris Wallace on BuzzFeed Report: ‘Very Disturbing’ If True, But Take It With ‘A Giant Block of Salt’
re: #17 Targetpractice
Agreed, I’m taking the whole with a grain of salt.
Hopefully Cormier has a better read on this and was the one who drove the story.
I do take more seriously those who have been using the qualifiers “if this is true” or “if this can be verified.” That’s smart imo. Because ffs, these clowns are showing over and over again that they couldn’t perform any sort of a cover-up whatsoever.
Like the Steele memo, we may be in a position where the story is for real in spite of Leopold in the byline.
re: #30 Dr. Matt
From the Birther and Seth Rich story network: Chris Wallace on BuzzFeed Report: ‘Very Disturbing’ If True, But Take It With ‘A Giant Block of Salt’
lol fox gonna fox
Now playing in this lizards lair, from Two Steps from Hell’s latest, “Dragon”. If I’ve understood correctly, this song is Thomas Bergersen paying respects to Tim Bergling, a.k.a. Avicii.
re: #7 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
ima have to re-up this from below
for me, that’s always been the core - the slope of the trajectory from a fertilized egg (or even before) to a born child is gradual with no discernible point at which personhood can be objectively identified, so when does a single discrete constitutionally protected life “begin”?
for the religious right, personhood got pushed further and further back to the beginning
for me there is no right to life. there is the right to a chance at life.
there is still a test / hurdle that must be passed - birth/delivery. and for the most part we don’t punish the caretakers if the hurdle is not crossed successfully
but make no mistake - this is the only time in the course of ‘a life’ where one must pass (through) a physical process or test to garner additional rights.
“turning” 18 or 21 is not the same as surviving the birthing process.So *any* point at which a constitutionally protected human life/ person is defined is somewhat arbitrary because there is no dispassionate objective point. it ‘could be’ a fertilized egg. it ‘could be’ who has survived the birth process.
i see the right’s arguments as irrelevant. it’s a religious argument. not a scientific argument. Nor a legal one.
“personhood” is a legal argument. not a scientific argument. nor a religious one.im fine with an agreed upon arbitrary legal place - as long as everybody recognizes that it is that, not some “religiously justified” legal place
Good comment, worth the re-upping. But I continued downstairs. I’ll leave it there, and answer a different little part of your comment.
but make no mistake - this is the only time in the course of ‘a life’ where one must pass (through) a physical process or test to garner additional rights.
“turning” 18 or 21 is not the same as surviving the birthing process.
Before I turned 18, I was totally set against the idea of state-sanctioned compulsory attendance at school, until graduation or the attainment of the age where they couldn’t keep you any more. I haven’t ‘gotten over it’, like they said I would. They said I was privileged, or what ever words were used for the concept at the time. ‘Compulsory education benefits the poor most of all’, they said. I had plenty of better ideas for benefiting the poor, involving no compulsion.
Should I take this one downstairs, too?
…but a Republican rally.
Do you really want to stick to your claim?— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
re: #24 Charles Johnson
I think I’ll refrain from mentioning my unpopular opinion about Leopold on Twitter. He’s being lionized right now, and anyone who tries to speak up is getting swarmed.
If he got this right, good on him. If he is wrong, Buzzfeed is dead.
That being said, really unlikely they got this wrong. We know Trump sent his underlings to lie for him. The proof will be in the emails and other docs seized from Cohen and the CFO of Trump Inc.
From the previous thread:
re: #724 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
for me, that’s always been the core - the slope of the trajectory from a fertilized egg (or even before) to a born child is gradual with no discernible point at which personhood is identified, so when does a single discrete constitutionally protected life “begin”?
for the religious right, personhood got pushed further and further back to the beginning
for me there is no right to life. there is the right to a chance at life.
there is still a test / hurdle that must be passed - birth/delivery. and for the most part we don’t punish the caretakers if the hurdle is not crossed successfully
but make no mistake - this is the only time in the course of ‘a life’ where one must pass (through) a physical process or test to garner additional rights.
“turning” 18 or 21 is not the same as surviving the birthing process.So *any* point at which a constitutionally protected human life/ person is defined is somewhat arbitrary because there is no dispassionate objective point. it ‘could be’ a fertilized egg. it ‘could be’ who has survived the birth process.
i see the right’s arguments as irrelevant. it’s a religious argument. not a scientific argument. Nor a legal one.
“personhood” is a legal argument. not a scientific argument. nor a religious one.im fine with an agreed upon arbitrary legal place - as long as everybody recognizes that it is that, not some “religiously justified” legal place
If I were required to pin down personhood it would be this: When the body is able to breathe on its own. If it can function without having to be physically connected, then it’s far enough along. But, even then, the woman still has complete control of her body.
One thing is for sure…there are 1000 reporters all trying to pump their sources at SDNY for verification.
I think we will find out sooner rather than later.
The other tell? Kelly Anne Conway and other Trump spox have all been issuing non denial denials.
They all suspect it’s true too, and refuse to go out on a limb.
re: #37 Belafon
From the previous thread:
If I were required to pin down personhood it would be this: When the body is able to breathe on its own. If it can function without having to be physically connected, then it’s far enough along. But, even then, the woman still has complete control of her body.
Yup. Gotta draw a line somewhere. How about when there is enough space to draw a line?
This tweet is completely wrong. The 5th Circuit did not make any determination of fact about the Center for Medical Progress video.
What they said was, the lower court should reconsider the case and apply a different standard to the arguments of state health officials. https://t.co/kjTSazSwmj— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) January 18, 2019
That’s exactly right. Unfortunately it’s no surprise to see the pro-life crowd circulating lies. It’s what they do. This whole “selling baby parts” campaign has been a lie from start to finish.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 18, 2019
re: #39 Scottish Dragon
The other tell? Kelly Anne Conway and other Trump spox have all been issuing non denial denials.
They all suspect it’s true too, and refuse to go out on a limb.
This. Compare to how they all reacted to the WaPo and NYT bombshells last weekend… it’s different this time.
I believe the rule is that you should be most wary of something that confirms your suspicions.
re: #43 Belafon
I believe the rule is that you should be most wary of something that confirms your suspicions.
Amen to that.
100,000 Supporters Turn Out for Annual March for Life — USA Today Reports ‘More Than a Thousand,’ CNN and MSNBC COMPLETELY IGNORE @CassandraRules https://t.co/2UDgTcfFiH via @gatewaypundit
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) January 18, 2019
That photo is from the Women’s March: https://t.co/JLaD4X2u2a https://t.co/yGBInkfvsO
— Lisa (@notmuchelse) January 18, 2019
re: #41 Charles Johnson
It’s all over twitter:
Nope. You and newsbusters are intentionally misconstruing what the 5th Circuit said.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
WTF! This looks like a military transport plane of some kind.
Plane flying close to buildings in Nashville ✈️ pic.twitter.com/ftO2SatybS
— Toby Lemley (@TobyLemley) January 18, 2019
The pilot of that plane is going to be in very serious trouble.
“The 118th Wing (118 WG) is a unit of the Tennessee Air National Guard, stationed at Berry Field Air National Guard Base, Nashville, Tennessee.”
en.wikipedia.org
re: #48 Charles Johnson
WTF! This looks like a military transport plane of some kind.
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It’s a C-17. Holy fuck, was that low.
re: #48 Charles Johnson
C-17 Tactical Transport
Me: They’re doing the March For “Life” today
Mom: The March for what?
Me: The anti-choicers, they’re marching
Mom: Oh? And will they be marching to an orphanage?— Robyn Pennacchia (@RobynElyse) January 18, 2019
I jokingly tweet how I love Infrastructure week and then see this:
Trump meets cabinet officials to revive Infrastructure push: sources
re: #54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I jokingly tweet how I love Infrastructure week and then see this:
Trump meets cabinet officials to revive Infrastructure push: sources
Ah, the memories of all the pundits who were sure that his promises of $1T in infrastructure spending would be a major part of his legacy…until they found out that only half would come from the federal coffers, with the rest being made up by states/cities selling off infrastructure to private companies.
re: #51 Targetpractice
It’s a C-17. Holy fuck, was that low.
I’ve been lower. been in a C-141 screaming across Florida. Low enough to make out tire tracks and see chickens running away. Plane had to climb to get us to jump altitude
Um, ok now wtf
What happened to Michael Cohen? Trump fixer arrives at home with apparent black eye and arm in sling
And yes, it’s the Daily Heil (under new management).
re: #48 Charles Johnson
WTF! This looks like a military transport plane of some kind.
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It does like a military transport - and the pilot’s hotdogging.
Not cool, especially over a densely populated urban area.
This is not really the smartest announcement to make after yesterday:
Trump to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at end of February, White House says https://t.co/76cNXv2uv6
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 18, 2019
The plane was practicing for Gov.-elect Bill Lee’s inauguration tomorrow…
re: #51 Targetpractice
It’s a C-17. Holy fuck, was that low.
re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I’ve been lower. been in a C-141 screaming across Florida. Low enough to make out tire tracks and see chickens running away. Plane had to climb to get us to jump altitude
I’ve seen two JA-37 Viggen at just about the minimum safe altitude over Gothenburg at close to Mach 1. You see two planes darting across the sky, I could’ve probably seen the tail numbers if I’d been attentive, shortly after, a lound rumble…
100,000 Supporters Turn Out for Annual March for Life — USA Today Reports ‘More Than a Thousand,’ CNN and MSNBC COMPLETELY IGNORE @CassandraRules https://t.co/2UDgTcfFiH via @gatewaypundit
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) January 18, 2019
The sheer gall of using a photo of the Women’s March to promote this fanatical anti-choice farce. https://t.co/3x7OrGVf6h
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 18, 2019
re: #16 Scottish Dragon
Trying to get the class to work on Elie Weisal’s Night and Holocaust…
Hard book and a harder book to teach. Could really mess with them and do Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee next… < Whistles innocently >
re: #54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I jokingly tweet how I love Infrastructure week and then see this:
Trump meets cabinet officials to revive Infrastructure push: sources
Well, it might be a good idea to reopen the government before talking about anything infrastructure, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
re: #50 jaunte
“The 118th Wing (118 WG) is a unit of the Tennessee Air National Guard, stationed at Berry Field Air National Guard Base, Nashville, Tennessee.”
en.wikipedia.org
I’m looking. I don’t see any reasonable reason why they would be on approach, or departure out of NIA/Berry over downtown Nashville.
You apparently don’t realize that the dumbest man on the internet - Hoft - whose article you are tweeting, is using a picture not from today’s anti-choice march but rather the women’s march (full of pro-choice women) of some time ago?
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
If Trump and his staff are now considering reviving the Infrastructure Week push when they’ve shut down the government — the means to actually get such projects done — with no way out of it in their minds, then they are fucking clueless.
re: #49 Charles Johnson
The pilot of that plane is going to be in very serious trouble.
Really strange approach altitude.
I know.
But I also can’t shake the feeling that the fecal matter will migrate sidways, in a pear shape, into the rotary air distribution apparatus at just about the same time, and not because of any impeachment proceedings, but because the other damage DJT and Co have caused.— Teo (@Teukka72) January 18, 2019
Feel-Good Story! Mayor Takes In The Child Of Employee He Let Go (Condemning Her To Die On The Street) Raises Her As His Own pic.twitter.com/fyieLvgdPM
— Alexandra Petri (@petridishes) January 18, 2019
No, it’s not a “good question”. It’s a trap wrapped in fallacies.
Anything with DNA and undergoing a metabolism of some sort is “life”.
That issue of abortion is not about “life” but about imposing religious beliefs.— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
re: #34 wrenchwench
Good comment, worth the re-upping. But I continued downstairs. I’ll leave it there, and answer a different little part of your comment.
Before I turned 18, I was totally set against the idea of state-sanctioned compulsory attendance at school, until graduation or the attainment of the age where they couldn’t keep you any more. I haven’t ‘gotten over it’, like they said I would. They said I was privileged, or what ever words were used for the concept at the time. ‘Compulsory education benefits the poor most of all’, they said. I had plenty of better ideas for benefiting the poor, involving no compulsion.
Should I take this one downstairs, too?
nah, the light’s better up here
i read your downstairs and am fine with it - - birth is where it’s more or less been, constitutionally
and i’m fine with “Woman rules her own body, and does with it what she wishes”
with the caveat of using broad strokes and not getting into specific rules, laws, states, etc.
- recognizing that sober decision making is not any decision making
- because a fetus say a week to a month before ‘delivery’ is an entirely different circumstance than a days old zygote
- and (to me as a man) this is where things can get thorny, because ‘any’ includes reckless, dangerous, capricious
im not sure where you were going w/r/t to school
- the state can sort of compel your presence, though it’s not a physical test.
- the birth process is and also has a fair degree of acceptable failure.
- you can be truant, flunk out, do poorly, move, fly under the radar, etc, and as soon as you hit 18/21 you still get whatever rights come with age, diploma notwithstanding
Food dropped off for unpaid TSA workers at Oakland Airport by Alameda County Foodbank. pic.twitter.com/SgBq7N1RMG
— Eric Thomas (@ericthomaskgo) January 18, 2019
re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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“Greatest Nation On Earth” has to rely upon food banks to keep its workers from starving because its leader would rather have that than admit his vanity project is kaput.
re: #24 Charles Johnson
I think I’ll refrain from mentioning my unpopular opinion about Leopold on Twitter. He’s being lionized right now, and anyone who tries to speak up is getting swarmed.
What about Cormier? He’s quoted as saying their sources are 100%.
re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
In other words, it’s not the immigrants that are keeping people here from taking care of each other, just complacency.
She’s still trying…
You made a claim about “Democrat”. And “Republican”.
If you really want to die on this hill, then I’ll simply point out that your original tweet suffers from the fallacy of faulty generalization.— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
re: #74 Targetpractice
“Greatest Nation On Earth” has to rely upon food banks to keep its workers from starving because its leader would rather have that than admit his vanity project is kaput.
+100
re: #39 Scottish Dragon
The other tell? Kelly Anne Conway and other Trump spox have all been issuing non denial denials.
They all suspect it’s true too, and refuse to go out on a limb.
Except for Rudy, for what that’s worth, which is nothing.
re: #69 Teukka
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If you have firm information of POTUS committing multiple felonies, do you wait for additional information on several dozen more felonies or do you start now and allow the additional info to come in as you work?
I say start now. Get SDNY in front of a closed hearing and get the documentation on suborning perjury.
If vaccines work that well, no state enforcement would be necessary
— Ariel🥂 (@Belle_Vivant) January 18, 2019
Another stupid douchebag blocked. https://t.co/ZGpckcV9O9
— Harry Turtledove (@HNTurtledove) January 18, 2019
So the thing with the plane over Nashville?
Apparently it was a rehearsal for a flyover that was supposed to be part of the new governors inauguration this weekend.
It’s a classic theme thrown out to make one feel superior:
Here’s what separates the March For Life from any other march: nobody in attendance is marching for themselves. Nobody is demanding rights or privileges for themselves. Everyone is marching on behalf of those who cannot march.
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) January 18, 2019
And #MarchForLife doesn’t litter. https://t.co/d4m7IFii62
— kit (@kits54) January 18, 2019
re: #81 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
“Have you met people, Belle?”
re: #80 Scottish Dragon
If you have firm information of POTUS committing multiple felonies, do you wait for additional information on several dozen more felonies or do you start now and allow the additional info to come in as you work?
I say start now. Get SDNY in front of a closed hearing and get the documentation on suborning perjury.
I would say do it by the book to produce an epic slam-dunk case, which also is Mueller’s usual M.O. What I feel in my gut is that it will be one hell of a fecal dumpster having an incident with an air distribution apparatus. But I wish that didn’t have to be, because I’m a bit close to comfort for one of uncle Vova’s potential end-game goals.
Maybe she wants to get a hotel room???
To quote you: “What a huge difference between Republican and Democrat marches! ” That last word is plural, and you intended it to be plural. It’s because you’re generalizing.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
re: #85 Teukka
I would say do it by the book to produce an epic slam-dunk case, which also is Mueller’s usual M.O. What I feel in my gut is that it will be one hell of a fecal dumpster having an incident with an air distribution apparatus. But I wish that didn’t have to be, because I’m a bit close to comfort for one of uncle Vova’s potential end-game goals.
We don’t know how much cooperation we are going to get from Barr, and it may require months of legal battles going to SCOTUS to get Mueller’s report. He all but confirmed that he won’t turn over everything.
Trump’s game is three card monty pic.twitter.com/5tfnXXT4mw
— The Monkey’s Paw (@TheEdMix) January 17, 2019
So Trump is a (hypocritical) panderer to theocrats. Is that supposed to be a virtue?
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
She’s beginning to get defensive:
Because you lot have done more than one march!! How difficult is that for you to understand??? What’s your IQ?
— Jacqueline Croasdale (@jakaroo65) January 18, 2019
This kind of duplicity and cynicism needs to hurt, and hurt badly. When Trump is history, we really, really need to settle up with these superstition mongers.
The Religious Right is rallying around Rep. Steve King by sending a letter to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy demanding that he apologize to King and reinstate King’s committee assignments. https://t.co/070iMiigc6
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 18, 2019
“you lot” - I have never been in a march, not my thing.
But now you are defensive, because you feel exposed.
As for IQ, that is a very Trump-ish thing to worry about. FWIW, the last IQ test I took was in 3rd grade, and I was 4 or 5 sigma above the mean.— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) January 18, 2019
SCOOP: U.S. regulators have met to discuss imposing a record-setting fine against Facebook for some of its privacy violations https://t.co/YJb3otipGK
— Tony Romm (@TonyRomm) January 18, 2019
re: #37 Belafon
From the previous thread:
If I were required to pin down personhood it would be this: When the body is able to breathe on its own. If it can function without having to be physically connected, then it’s far enough along. But, even then, the woman still has complete control of her body.
…and here’s where the thorns begin (though i dont disagree with the notion)
- this would not be the same gestational day for every pregnancy, so how to ‘know when’?
- this point in time would be different depending on the mother’s socio-economic status, location, etc., as to whether the body could breathe on its own/sustain itself outside the womb - in a hospital or other setting?
- how could it be ‘verified’ that this sustainability has arrived?
and then it gets thornier
if this is the personhood point, does the fetus have to be delivered for personhood to kick in?
- if yes, then it’s not of much value if the mother wont - its where we are now
- if no, then what rights does the fetus gain at ‘personhood’? ability to inherit, contract?
A born baby, even one that doesnt live a full hour, can inherit
- meanwhile while still in utero, who protects the fetus’s rights if it’s a ‘person’ (as happens a lot now) vs the mother’s
im not arguing for or against, and im not being comprehensive here
the right has picked conception because it is (more or less) definite and ‘objective’ and as early as they could possibly go. it didnt come from a religious place, rather their religious arguments were created to support it.
the left has been more realistic, saying it’s not one size fits all, there are different circumstances that require different kinds of thinking at different points in gestation. and they’ve done a poor job of articulating that it is not, and can’t be, clear, concise and the same for everybody.
Creationist are too predictable.
Anyway, Trump really knows how to work his marks.
Best thing we can do is just throw cold water on the marks and maybe they’ll get shocked into reality.
Shorter Rod Dreher:
Criticizing Karen Pence is gonna lead to anti Christian pogroms!
Kevin Corke, @FoxNews “Don’t forget, Michael Cohen has already been convicted of perjury and fraud, and as recently as this week, the Wall Street Journal has suggested that he may have stolen tens of thousands of dollars….” Lying to reduce his jail time! Watch father-in-law!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2019
The president is encouraging investigators to look at the family member of a witness who has testified against him. https://t.co/mOR4BUekma
— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) January 18, 2019
Whatever folks think of Cohen, this is the president of the US using his Twitter feed to urge investigation of a witness against him. https://t.co/ArNq01CMXR
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 18, 2019
Any investigation of a Cohen family member would be fatally tainted by this now. Nobody could believe an investigation would be in good faith.
re: #91 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
This kind of duplicity and cynicism needs to hurt, and hurt badly. When Trump is history, we really, really need to settle up with these superstition mongers.
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Proving - as though anyone here really didn’t know it - that racism is a major component of the Religious Right’s doctrine.
Can anyone in the Trump administration explain why a foreign terrorist would go through the trouble of crossing the 2,000 mile U.S.-Mexico border when the U.S. has a 5,500 mile largely unguarded border with Canada? pic.twitter.com/H6U0W7iWDP
— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) January 18, 2019
from lawfare via politicalwire.com
Trump may well have addressed this matter in his written submission to Mueller. In April, the New York Times reported that Mueller asked Trump to answer two questions: “What communication did you have with Michael D. Cohen, Felix Sater and others, including foreign nationals, about Russian real estate developments during the campaign?” and “What discussions did you have during the campaign regarding any meeting with Mr. Putin? Did you discuss it with others?”
Trump has since submitted written answers to at least some of Mueller’s questions. If he, in fact, directed Cohen to lie, as BuzzFeed News reports, did he tell Mueller the truth in this submission?
If this Leopold/Cormier story is not for real, then it’s a very long and sustained false flag.
still posted lol pic.twitter.com/41ba8aBWAx
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 18, 2019
re: #81 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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Seatbelts, airbags, motorcycle helmets, vehicle brake lights, electrical / building earthquake & fire codes, aircraft inspection regulations & pilot licensing, USDA inspections … all work fantastically to minimize unnecessary deaths BECAUSE they’re enforced by the State.
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 18, 2019
re: #104 goddamnedfrank
Polio has been virtually eradicated thanks to state mandated vaccinations.
Smallpox has been eliminated as a worldwide threat thanks to state mandate vaccination.
Other diseases could join those ranks - but requires state-required mandates, because anti-vaxxer BULKSHIT means some people ignore the benefits, or think that it causes more harm than good or they think their religion prohibits it.
re: #102 Myron Falwell
If this Leopold/Cormier story is not for real, then it’s a very long and sustained false flag.
That is to say, if they are wrong, then Buzzfeed is beyond fucked, as this would mean a whole host of stories on this are wrong as a result.
Can anyone in the Trump administration explain why a foreign terrorist would go through the trouble of crossing the 2,000 mile U.S.-Mexico border when the U.S. has a 5,500 mile largely unguarded border with Canada? pic.twitter.com/H6U0W7iWDP
— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) January 18, 2019
Notice there are no caravans…PAINT THE LINE! PAINT THE LINE! https://t.co/pdO8jlL6ll
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 18, 2019
re: #102 Myron Falwell
The problem is that until the evidence (hopefully in Mueller’s possession) is presented to the public, we will not be able to evaluate this or that claim.
What has already happened, with Cohen, Manafort, and the rest, is enough to implicate Trump in crimes.
What is not needed is making stuff up… but again we can’t judge until the evidence is presented.
AFAIC, by his attack and then sacking of Comey, and then Sessions, Trump has demonstrated his intent to obstruct justice. That should be enough, but of course the Republicans are covering Trump’s ass … for now.
re: #91 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
This kind of duplicity and cynicism needs to hurt, and hurt badly. When Trump is history, we really, really need to settle up with these superstition mongers.
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re: #102 Myron Falwell
I’m not saying it’s a bogus story. It may well pan out. But the whole allegation that Trump directly ordered Cohen to lie to Congress seems to be based on two anonymous sources. That seems a little thin for such a damning accusation.
Again, it may turn out to be correct and that wouldn’t surprise me at all. But I don’t feel comfortable pushing it myself, unless and until there’s better corroboration.
re: #81 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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Vaccines work so well that people have forgotten what it was like when every summer brought Polio and we all donated to the March Of Dimes because of kids in iron lungs, or when 4-500 people died of measles every year.
Vaccines work so well that people have forgotten why we need them.
re: #95 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
Yep, mine’s vague for a reason. As for this:
the right has picked conception because it is (more or less) definite and ‘objective’ and as early as they could possibly go. it didnt come from a religious place, rather their religious arguments were created to support it.
They’re wrong. And what they are choosing to believe leaves doesn’t match to things like the body rejecting lot’s of fertilized eggs, thereby not even leading to pregancy. And what if God told the woman she doesn’t need to be pregnant right now?
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re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg
So the thing with the plane over Nashville?
Apparently it was a rehearsal for a flyover that was supposed to be part of the new governors inauguration this weekend.
Everybody can change their underwear now.
Evening Lizardim. Covfefe. That is all. How go things among the lizardfolk on this frigid snowy January day? What have I missed since the big news broke last night?
re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White
Vaccines work so well that people have forgotten what it was like when every summer brought Polio and we all donated to the March Of Dimes because of kids in iron lungs, or when 4-500 people died of measles every year.
Vaccines work so well that people have forgotten why we need them.
Exactly. And that’s the same with a lot of other succsss stories.
re: #97 Scottish Dragon
Shorter Rod Dreher:
Criticizing Karen Pence is gonna lead to anti Christian pogroms!
“Investigating Pence’s beliefs might lead people to not take Christianity seriously.”
re: #110 Charles Johnson
I’m not saying it’s a bogus story. It may well pan out. But the whole allegation that Trump directly ordered Cohen to lie to Congress seems to be based on two anonymous sources. That seems a little thin for such a damning accusation.
Again, it may turn out to be correct and that wouldn’t surprise me at all. But I don’t feel comfortable pushing it myself, unless and until there’s better corroboration.
We need another news source to get verification.
OK, school’s out. Back to my crapped out laptop with dysfunctional keys that you really need to work….
re: #54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I jokingly tweet how I love Infrastructure week and then see this:
Trump meets cabinet officials to revive Infrastructure push: sources
The government is fucking closed. How are they…
Nevermind.
Christ.
Count me as someone opposed to Jack Dorsey’s concept of using AI algorithms to make sure people don’t see anything upsetting, while doing NOTHING about that upsetting content. This is a bullshit weak-spined way to deal with the problem.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 18, 2019
re: #122 Charles Johnson
“All we have to do is make the walls a little higher around the camps.”
re: #119 Scottish Dragon
We need another news source to get verification.
A third source wouldn’t hurt, either
re: #121 MsJ
The government is fucking closed. How are they…
Nevermind.
Christ.
They have no ideas left if this is all they’ve got.
Ben Shapiro at March for Life: “The truth is no pro-life person would kill baby Hitler. Baby Hitler was a baby.” pic.twitter.com/PPgQcbWSrq
— jordan (@JordanUhl) January 18, 2019
Baby Hitler was also Hitler. I’d turn a dingo loose on him. https://t.co/mWVGLPfo9z
— Harold Itzkowitz (@HaroldItz) January 18, 2019
That is not a denial
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) January 18, 2019
well, she’s also not a competent press secretary
Ben Shapiro: “What God demands of us is to choose life.” (Reported by @jackmjenkins)
Also Ben Shapiro: “…when I see that civilians in Afghanistan or the West Bank were killed by American or Israeli troops, I don’t really care.”
More pathetic “pro life” hypocrisy#MarchForLife pic.twitter.com/e7GfmQPAVD— Qasim Rashid, Esq. (@MuslimIQ) January 18, 2019
He needs one to see over the podium.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) January 18, 2019
re: #127 Myron Falwell
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Non-denial denials are all they have at this point, because even if their boss actually did speak up to deny it, nobody believes a word he says.
re: #126 The Vicious Babushka
But, you know, if Baby Hitler were Salvadoran and being brought by his parents to seek refuge in the United States, a lot of “Pro-Lifers” would happily send him back to risk death in El Salvador after separating him from his parents.
re: #126 The Vicious Babushka
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Nah they would just be indifferent to a migrant child like you and the other attendees of this farce are. Ben really is a mediocre mind if he’s invoking Baby Hitler.
re: #127 Myron Falwell
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well, she’s also not a competent press secretary
Next question: Did the President direct YOU to lie to us just then?
Ben Shapiro at March for Life: “The truth is no pro-life person would kill baby Hitler. Baby Hitler was a baby.” pic.twitter.com/PPgQcbWSrq
— jordan (@JordanUhl) January 18, 2019
What @benshapiro really means is that “pro-life” people wouldn’t abort FETUS Hitler. Because after they’re born the “pro-life” crowd couldn’t care less about other people’s babies. https://t.co/uJnXtpj9nT
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 18, 2019
re: #134 Charles Johnson
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— maura quint (@behindyourback) January 18, 2019
From the annals of “Why am I not surprised”, Jack Dorsey on what he would do ‘if’ Trump violated Twitter terms of service.
From HuffPost interview. (Saw it mentioned in Washington Post email, btw.)
Feinberg: “Is there anything that, say, Donald Trump could do that would qualify as a misuse? Because I know the newsworthy aspect of it outweighs a lot of that. But is there anything that he could do that would qualify as misusing the platform, regardless of newsworthiness?”
Dorsey:”Yeah, I mean, we’ve talked about this a lot, so I’m not going to rehash it. We believe it’s important that the world sees how global leaders think and how they act. And we think the conversation that ensues around that is critical.”
Feinberg: “OK, but if Trump tweeted out asking each of his followers to murder one journalist, would you remove him?”
Dorsey:”That would be a violent threat. We’d definitely … You know we’re in constant communication with all governments around the world. So we’d certainly talk about it.”
Feinberg: “OK, but if he did that, would that be grounds to—”
Dorsey: “I’m not going to talk about particulars. We’ve established protocol, it’s transparent. It’s out there for everyone to read. We have, independent of the U.S. president, we have conversations with all governments. It’s not just limited to this one.”
Jack Dorsey Has No Clue What He Wants
huffingtonpost.com
re: #136 jeffreyw
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My mother gave me this hat thirty or forty years ago. Not all that up on hat styles, is this a fedora?. a trilby? I seem to remember Anymouse mentioning a familiarity with head gear.
Trilby. Fedora has a MUCH wider brim.
re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White
Vaccines work so well that people have forgotten what it was like when every summer brought Polio and we all donated to the March Of Dimes because of kids in iron lungs, or when 4-500 people died of measles every year.
Vaccines work so well that people have forgotten why we need them.
every time someone says this i pull out my go to:
it’s called a comfort trap
checklists, standards, procedures, vaccines, protocols
why do we gotta do this stuff since nothing ever goes wrong?
well to paraphrase what frank so goddamnly said above
virtually nothing goes wrong BECAUSE we do these things
re: #135 bd(it’s all true)
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Actually that would stop Hitler. Baby Hitler would grow up forever hating politics because of the weird stranger that tried to debate him when he was two.
re: #136 jeffreyw
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My mother gave me this hat thirty or forty years ago. Not all that up on hat styles, is this a fedora?. a trilby? I seem to remember Anymouse mentioning a familiarity with head gear.
Yeah that’s a Trillby. Gwang is correct about the brim. Nice hat. Very old school.
NEW: Former Pres. George W. Bush delivers pizza to federal personnel “working hard for our country without a paycheck.”
“It’s time for leaders on both sides to put politics aside, come together, and end this shutdown,” he writes. https://t.co/XQLoT0uZzv pic.twitter.com/FSxmYoehyq— ABC News (@ABC) January 18, 2019
re: #140 HappyWarrior
Actually that would stop Hitler. Baby Hitler would grow up forever hating politics because of the weird stranger that tried to debate him when he was two.
Go Ben Go!
Those time machines work only one way, right?
Here’s what separates the March For Life from any other march: nobody in attendance is marching for themselves. Nobody is demanding rights or privileges for themselves. Everyone is marching on behalf of those who cannot march.
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) January 18, 2019
Interesting.
Abolitionists.
Many Civil Rights marchers.
Many LGBT rights marchers.
re: #136 jeffreyw
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Trilby:
Fedora:
re: #136 jeffreyw
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Definitely one of those.
In other hat-related news, I’ve long been a fan of a particular hat model that I used to find at a local outdoor store. They were about $35, crushable, comfy, stayed on my head, shaded me well and looked good.
But I got tired of ‘crushable’ eventually meaning ‘shapeless’, so I started looking for the same style in a non-crushable version.
I found it. Stetson makes it. It’s $174. A hundred and seventy four goddam dollars.
re: #120 Scottish Dragon
OK, school’s out. Back to my crapped out laptop with dysfunctional keys that you really need to work….
Borrow your work keyboard and plug it into the laptop. No more problem.
re: #138 gwangung
Trilby. Fedora has a MUCH wider brim.
And the tip of the hat goes to ….gwangung! Thank you.
re: #144 bd(it’s all true)
Go Ben Go!
Those time machines work only one way, right?
Sounds like win win for us. Ben gets to stop Hitler and gets to live in the 19th century like he’s always wanted to.
re: #137 ckkatz
This piece is so damning on Jack’s anti-curiosity. No wonder he gives Trump a pass all the time.
Kudos to Ashley for not holding a damn thing back.
re: #151 HappyWarrior
Sounds like win win for us. Ben gets to stop Hitler and gets to live in the 19th century like he’s always wanted to.
Would it actually be evil if a Weeping Angel sent him back to that time?
re: #90 freetoken
She’s beginning to get defensive:
What’s your IQ is not an argument for or against abortion, it’s an ad hominem attack.
re: #151 HappyWarrior
Sounds like win win for us. Ben gets to stop Hitler and gets to live in the 19th century like he’s always wanted to.
Nothing says you’re gonna be on the right side of history like having more sympathy for Baby Hitler than you do for actual children at the border
— Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker) January 18, 2019
re: #141 HappyWarrior
Yeah that’s a Trillby. Gwang is correct about the brim. Nice hat. Very old school.
It’s a Stetson!
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re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Dubya, look, I stick up for you a LOT more than you deserve, so… Do me a solid, cut it with the both-sides-are-bad bullshit, and just … shut the FUCK up.
re: #148 Blind Frog Belly White
Definitely one of those.
In other hat-related news, I’ve long been a fan of a particular hat model that I used to find at a local outdoor store. They were about $35, crushable, comfy, stayed on my head, shaded me well and looked good.
But I got tired of ‘crushable’ eventually meaning ‘shapeless’, so I started looking for the same style in a non-crushable version.
I found it. Stetson makes it. It’s $174. A hundred and seventy four goddam dollars.
If you are ever near St Joseph Mo, visit the Stetson Hat Company. At least in 1976, they had a small factory store there that sold remainders, rejects, irregulars, etc. When I visited there, I picked up a couple of fedoras for about $10 each.
(I used to have a lot of family in Western Mo and Eastern Kansas.)
re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White
Vaccines work so well that people have forgotten what it was like when every summer brought Polio and we all donated to the March Of Dimes because of kids in iron lungs, or when 4-500 people died of measles every year.
Vaccines work so well that people have forgotten why we need them.
My mother would hit an antivaxxer with a cluebat (or maybe just a bat) if someone tried that on her. My wife’s mother can’t because she’s dead from post-polio syndrome after a lifetime in a wheelchair.
re: #153 Belafon
Would it actually be evil if a Weeping Angel sent him back to that time?
I certainly wouldn’t miss him.
Both sides aren’t holding federal workers hostage to an insane wall. Only one side is passing legislation to reopen the government while the other is refusing to even allow a vote in the Senate because they know it would pass overwhelmingly, forcing Trump to put up or shut up.
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 18, 2019
re: #155 bd(it’s all true)
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Very glad that the knowledge about Chucky being a Holocaust denier is now commonplace.
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The hits keep on coming, as Hans Metzner debunks the Holocaust denier Mattogno’s nonsensical “argument”:
“Mattogno, his Einsatzgruppen book and the Gas Vans. Part IV: The “Enormous Contradiction” That Is None”https://t.co/EEKGiCCKkw— Confronting Denial (@AgainstDenial) January 18, 2019
re: #163 goddamnedfrank
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The “both sides” bullshit ignores that this whole shutdown started because one side entered into an agreement in what they believed was good faith, only for the other to pull the rug out from under them at the 11th hour…all because of mean words directed at them by Faux News.
re: #136 jeffreyw
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My mother gave me this hat thirty or forty years ago. Not all that up on hat styles, is this a fedora?. a trilby? I seem to remember Anymouse mentioning a familiarity with head gear.
That is a trilby. It is identified by its “skinny brim.”
Fedora is a Linux operating system /s
re: #154 Anymouse 🌹
What’s your IQ is not an argument for or against abortion, it’s an ad hominem attack.
re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
NEW: Former Pres. George W. Bush delivers pizza to federal personnel “working hard for our country without a paycheck.”
“It’s time for leaders on both sides to put politics aside, come together, and end this shutdown,” he writes.
you cant negotiate when there arent two sides of basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently
you can’t negotiate when only one side is willing to.
because it has become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, brutal struggle for office in which the republicans, with righteous indignation believe that only the democrats are and can be capable of behaving despicably.
here let me put it another way:
-One of the two major parties, the Republican Party, has become an insurgent outlier — ideologically extreme; contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime; scornful of compromise; unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
Yeah IQ. That’s how kids discuss intelligence.
Off to prison, you lying murderous bitch.
NEW: Sen. Jeff Merkley has formally requested FBI Director Wray open a perjury investigation into Sec. of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen. @SenJeffMerkley says “new documents show Nielsen lied in sworn testimony to Congress about the administration’s family separation policy.”
— Courtney Norris (@courtneyknorris) January 18, 2019
The reality of the situation is one side is represented by a man whose word cannot be taken at face value and another who has totally abdicated his leadership responsibilities to the former. Unless one or the other changes his tune, any “negotiations” are pointless as they are automatically in bad faith. That was best put on display when Pelosi and Schumer attended a meeting with Trump at the White House, only for him to storm out when told he was not getting any guarantee of having his demands met.
re: #157 jeffreyw
It’s a Stetson!
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re: #167 Anymouse 🌹
That is a trilby. It is identified by its “skinny brim.”
Fedora is a Linux operating system /s
I think I have Mint Trilby distro on a repurposed HP machine to the basement.//
“The Dems need to negotiate!”
They did negotiate! They did reach an agreement! That agreement passed the Senate with unanimous consent on the understanding that Trump would sign it, only for him to withdraw from such the moment he felt the least bit of pressure from his base. It is absolutely ridiculous to act as though that agreement, which the House Dem leadership has since sent back to the Senate, never happened for the purposes of suggesting “both sides” are responsible for this mess.
re: #164 HappyWarrior
Seriously and this guy is supposed to be the conservative movement’s intellectual? Ben isn’t stupid imo but he relies on stupidity and intellectual dishonesty for his whole schtick to work.
if this is true, then ben is stupid
re: #176 Targetpractice
“The Dems need to negotiate!”
They did negotiate! They did reach an agreement! That agreement passed the Senate with unanimous consent on the understanding that Trump would sign it, only for him to withdraw from such the moment he felt the least bit of pressure from his base. It is absolutely ridiculous to act as though that agreement, which the House Dem leadership has since sent back to the Senate, never happened for the purposes of suggesting “both sides” are responsible for this mess.
We gotta remember this. W Bush is not only still a Republican but a big part of the problems we’ve had. Nice gesture on the pizza but no W it’s not both sides.
re: #122 Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
Count me as someone opposed to Jack Dorsey’s concept of using AI algorithms to make sure people don’t see anything upsetting, while doing NOTHING about that upsetting content. This is a bullshit weak-spined way to deal with the problem.4:06 PM - Jan 18, 2019
What? Yeah, let them all see each other’s hate so they can build and build upon that hate while others can’t see what is going on.
A bit like saying cancer will not be as bad as long as you don’t see it.
Cut that shit out.
Does Jack wants to protect his own?
re: #177 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
if this is true, then ben is stupid
I don’t know about that. But I won’t disagree with this. He’s nowhere near as bright as his fans think he is.
re: #173 Targetpractice
The reality of the situation is one side is represented by a man whose word cannot be taken at face value and another who has totally abdicated his leadership responsibilities to the former. Unless one or the other changes his tune, any “negotiations” are pointless as they are automatically in bad faith. That was best put on display when Pelosi and Schumer attended a meeting with Trump at the White House, only for him to storm out when told he was not getting any guarantee of having his demands met.
plus the one before that when he tried to rattle them by bringing in the press and cameras without telling them ahead of time
(didnt work)
re: #176 Targetpractice
“The Dems need to negotiate!”
They did negotiate! They did reach an agreement! That agreement passed the Senate with unanimous consent on the understanding that Trump would sign it, only for him to withdraw from such the moment he felt the least bit of pressure from his base. It is absolutely ridiculous to act as though that agreement, which the House Dem leadership has since sent back to the Senate, never happened for the purposes of suggesting “both sides” are responsible for this mess.
Like I said - you cannot negotiate with a man whose word cannot be trusted.
TWICE now he’s ‘reached a deal’ on immigration only to reneg. Last year he could have gotten $20e9 for his stupid wall in exchange for Dreamer protection, but he let Miller queer the deal.
re: #136 jeffreyw
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It’s a trilby. A fedora has a wider brim.
re: #181 HappyWarrior
I don’t know about that. But I won’t disagree with this. He’s nowhere near as bright as his fans think he is.
im being a bit pedantic
if he cant make his points in a clever, intellectually honest way, and be effective, then he aint too bright
;-)
re: #182 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
plus the one before that when he tried to rattle them by bringing in the press and cameras without telling them ahead of time
(didnt work)
Which the GOP leadership will damn him to his dying day for, as without that they could have possibly turned this shutdown against the DNC. But the moment he was caught on live TV saying he’d be proud to take credit for the shutdown, they’d lost the fight and were left trying to drag things out long enough that Nancy might take pity on them and give them some wall money.
Should have read the whole thread before commenting.
re: #187 The Vicious Babushka
Should have read the whole thread before commenting.
THAT would break tradition.
re: #185 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
im being a bit pedantic
if he cant make his points in a clever, intellectually honest way, and be effective, then he aint too bright
;-)
Ah yeah I hear ya and agree. I just think that may be more an indictment on his audience’s intelligence than his own.
OS: “Dunkin won’t eat his food unless it is microwaved, because he thinks that makes it human food” pic.twitter.com/f0LbnFqWKp
— Fluff Society (@FluffSociety) January 18, 2019
re: #165 Nyet
Very glad that the knowledge about Chucky being a Holocaust denier is now commonplace.
Well, actually, Chuck says he was just testing the limits of free speech and didn’t really believe any of that stuff he said. On Reddit. Testing free speech on Reddit.
cough
re: #178 lawhawk
I prefer wearing a boonie when I’m outdoors - makes it easier to do photography to have the crushable rim. I’ve got two of them - one in a desert camo and another in a jungle camo that is a wider brim.
The crushable hats I used to get had one big advantage - I used to spend every weekend at the archery range, and WHEN NEW, the brim would roll up and away as I drew the bowstring back to my cheek. That would work for months, till the day came when I drew the bowstring back, and the brim rolled down over my eye, or bunched up.
re: #192 Charles Johnson
Well, actually, Chuck says he was just testing the limits of free speech and didn’t really believe any of that stuff he said. On Reddit. Testing free speech on Reddit.
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That’s what they always say when they get caught. We all know better.
re: #186 Targetpractice
Which the GOP leadership will damn him to his dying day for, as without that they could have possibly turned this shutdown against the DNC. But the moment he was caught on live TV saying he’d be proud to take credit for the shutdown, they’d lost the fight and were left trying to drag things out long enough that Nancy might take pity on them and give them some wall money.
And because of that, the whole party fucked themselves over in a way we can’t describe right now. That’s why they have no leverage on this except by destroying themselves outright.
what a load of crap
Newscaster apologizes for inserting racial slur into Martin Luther King Jr.’s name on air https://t.co/OQ6TgFJr0o pic.twitter.com/DHU1me1gaC
— The Hill (@thehill) January 18, 2019
“… KTVI newscaster Kevin Steincross was on the station’s morning news show when he was speaking about an upcoming tribute that would honor “Martin Luther coon Jr.,” according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
“I want to take a moment to apologize,” Steincross said on air hours after the racial slur was broadcasted. “We have heard from a viewer about a mistake I made in our 5 a.m. newscast. In our story about the tribute to Dr. King, I unfortunately mispronounced his name. Please know I have total respect for Dr. King, what he meant and what he continues to mean to our country. This was not intentional in any way, and I sincerely apologize.”
A representative from the news station told the Post-Dispatch that it was a mistake and Steincross would not be fired.
“The Fox2 management team spoke to Kevin following the mistake and we believe that it was truly inadvertent and does not reflect Kevin’s core beliefs,” a spokesperson told the Post-Dispatch in a statement. “Kevin is extremely upset by the mistake and regrets it deeply.” …”
Happened to catch a bit of Faux last night as I was passing by the living room and I heard something that hasn’t been brought up much in recent weeks: The suggestion that the GOP and/or Trump bring up the ‘13 “Gang of Eight” immigration bill and put it to a vote, figuring that the DNC will have to support it and thus support wall funding. You heard that right, the immigration reform bill that the GOP killed in ‘13 because of “AMNESTY!” is seen by some as the way to give Trump a “win.”
re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
what a load of crap
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Although, in talking to The Younger Boy, I learned that he shares one of my abilities/anxieties: the ability to instantly know the very worst thing to say combined with the deep-seated fear that we won’t be able to stop ourselves saying it.
Mind you, neither of us ever DOES say it, but anxiety doesn’t really work rationally.
re: #40 wrenchwench
Yup. Gotta draw a line somewhere. How about when there is enough space to draw a line?
We’ve got a pretty good definition of human death so we don’t look vivisectionists when we harvest organs for transplant. Why not just go with that?
No forebrain, no hu-main.
re: #197 Targetpractice
Really? Between that and the “Infrastructure Week” rumor, you can’t tell me that they aren’t flailing in panic right now.
re: #191 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Karen, you know how this works now…yet you persist.
To the microwave.
re: #192 Charles Johnson
Well, actually, Chuck says he was just testing the limits of free speech and didn’t really believe any of that stuff he said. On Reddit. Testing free speech on Reddit.
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Too bad David Cole/Stein confirmed that Chucky did mean what he said.
re: #126 The Vicious Babushka
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If you could go into the past to when Hitler was a baby, it would be morally wrong to kill the baby. Sure, he might grow up and kill tens of millions of people, but the mere fact you got a time machine and traveled into the past means that future in that timeline is still merely potential; this baby Hitler might have a smidgen more artistic talent than the Hitler of our past, and grow up to live the life of a mediocre artist in Vienna instead of a monster. Or he might get killed in WWI. You just don’t know. That’s my take anyway.
re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White
Although, in talking to The Younger Boy, I learned that he shares one of my abilities/anxieties: the ability to instantly know the very worst thing to say combined with the deep-seated fear that we won’t be able to stop ourselves saying it.
Mind you, neither of us ever DOES say it, but anxiety doesn’t really work rationally.
At least you have the ability to stop yourselves. You could be like me, who sees that train wreck and drives right onto the tracks.
re: #206 Nyet
Next year I will have been 10 years at LGF… oof.
Hard to believe I’ve been here that much longer than you. I feel like I’ve seen you around here forever.
re: #206 Nyet
Next year I will have been 10 years at LGF… oof.
I think I’m going to be a decade this fall or next. I definitely joined after Obama’s first summer.
re: #210 HappyWarrior
Registered since: Oct 28, 2009 at 6:56 pm
re: #176 Targetpractice
“The Dems need to negotiate!”
They did negotiate! They did reach an agreement! That agreement passed the Senate with unanimous consent on the understanding that Trump would sign it, only for him to withdraw from such the moment he felt the least bit of pressure from his base. It is absolutely ridiculous to act as though that agreement, which the House Dem leadership has since sent back to the Senate, never happened for the purposes of suggesting “both sides” are responsible for this mess.
Well, to be pedantic about it, the current impasse is the fault of the departing House of Representatives of the 115th Congress (GOP-controlled, if we need to be reminded), who tossed back the Senate CR (without Wall funding) - with the $5,7B Wall appropriation attached - virtually as their last act before finally adjourning. And of course, on a strictly party-line vote.
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Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin flew on convicted billionaire Michael Milken’s private jet this month while Mnuchin is trying to get Trump to pardon him. https://t.co/TFg0qdjEX2
— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) January 18, 2019
re: #211 Nyet
Registered since: Oct 28, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Ah ha! Thanks. I’m on my phone and too lazy. Yeah a friend cued me in that Charles was letting in new members so I couldn’t resist since I was looking for good discussion.
re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Holy shit.
The site still had a lot of conservatives when I joined but few wingnuts. Some jerks tho tbh.
Just got this Trump spam mail. Is the president trying to prank his opposition? What is this…
For every $20.20 dollars raised by MIDNIGHT TONIGHT, we will send a BEAUTIFUL BRICK directly to the offices of Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi.— Richard Engel (@RichardEngel) January 18, 2019
re: #217 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
This isn’t at all in bad taste when federal workers aren’t getting paid:
“For every $20.20 dollars raised by MIDNIGHT TONIGHT, we will send a BEAUTIFUL BRICK directly to the offices of Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi.”*
*Trump fundraising email.— Kate Brannen (@K8brannen) January 18, 2019
re: #210 HappyWarrior
I think I’m going to be a decade this fall or next. I definitely joined after Obama’s first summer.
I guess that makes me almost a noob.
re: #216 HappyWarrior
The site still had a lot of conservatives when I joined but few wingnuts. Some jerks tho tbh.
Let’s see, 2009… I believe that was after the Great Wingnut Flounce (I think that was in 2008 sometime?), which IIRC is why you joined up. I remember some of the ones who remained after that, and they were tame compared to what came before.
re: #220 Blind Frog Belly White
I guess that makes me almost a noob.
I approve of the profile pic, btw. I loves me some Zim.
I want to see Congressional Democrats go after this one:
“Under no circumstances during a government shutdown will any government owned, rented, leased, or chartered aircraft support any congressional delegation, without the express written approval of the White House chief of staff,” Acting OMB Director Russell Vought wrote in a memorandum to the heads of executive departments and agencies.
re: #221 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Let’s see, 2009… I believe that was after the Great Wingnut Flounce (I think that was in 2008 sometime?), which IIRC is why you joined up. I remember some of the ones who remained after that, and they were tame compared to what came before.
I joined because my buddy told me while the website was still more conservative than liberal, Charles had taken a bold stand against the Eurofascists that pretty much everyone else in the mainstream right was either okay with or indifferent to. I didn’t expect to find a home but knew I’d find reasonable minded people which is what I was looking for.
Ben Shapiro at March for Life: “The truth is no pro-life person would kill baby Hitler. Baby Hitler was a baby.” pic.twitter.com/PPgQcbWSrq
— jordan (@JordanUhl) January 18, 2019
Um, we call them Dictator-Tots. https://t.co/D680js9LFG
— Julius Goat 🦆(Read Pinned Tweet!) (@JuliusGoat) January 18, 2019
Pro-lifers traveling back in time to protect baby Hitler from time assassins, so they can do the moral thing, and kill 12-year-old Hitler for not obeying a cop immediately.
— Julius Goat 🦆(Read Pinned Tweet!) (@JuliusGoat) January 18, 2019
re: #220 Blind Frog Belly White
I guess that makes me almost a noob.
I’m trying to think who is also a Class of 09er.
re: #226 HappyWarrior
I’m trying to think who is also a Class of 09er.
There are a lot. That was a good year.
Musk is in trouble
Last summer he cut 9% of Tesla’s workforce. Last week they announced a 10% cut to SpaceX workforce
Now, more cuts to Tesla
Tesla will reduce its full-time work force by 7% in an effort to lower the cost of producing its Model 3 sedan and make it a mass-market vehicle, Elon Musk told employees on Friday https://t.co/pV52fm7ZPT
— The New York Times (@nytimes) January 18, 2019
Breaking: News footage from the Southern border. https://t.co/T1zFLYw0Zy
— Horatio Sanz (@MrHoratioSanz) January 18, 2019
I’m gonna just go ahead and say it. I’d kill baby Hitler.
(I’m in a bit of a mood today)
My friend posted here twice. I just remember he offended someone who is long gone with a joke about Robert Spencer and he hasn’t posted since. The two of us still discuss issues.
re: #227 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
There are a lot. That was a good year.
My first year at GMU and my month in Ireland.
Now we have imagery
Fundraising email from the Trump campaign/RNC, encouraging supporters to donate to, “send a BEAUTIFUL BRICK directly to the offices of Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi”: pic.twitter.com/QkpvguPnsm
— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) January 18, 2019
re: #231 HappyWarrior
My friend posted here twice. I just remember he offended someone who is long gone with a joke about Robert Spencer and he hasn’t posted since. The two of us still discuss issues.
See, nowadays, we’d all laugh. Funny how times change. Maybe you should tell him about this awesome website you found and he should come and check it out.
re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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re: #233 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Now we have imagery
Oh my god, trying to squeeze the last possible dime from the rubes while they still can.
I wouldn’t kill Baby Hitler. But I wouldn’t mind poisoning Alois Hitler in the Summer of 1888.
re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Musk is in trouble
Last summer he cut 9% of Tesla’s workforce. Last week they announced a 10% cut to SpaceX workforce
Now, more cuts to Tesla
He’s been hoping to mass produce a major electric vehicle, but it sounds like he really needs to stick with the high end market. He’ll drive down prices more if he stays in business than if he can’t make a profit on a hope.
re: #234 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
See, nowadays, we’d all laugh. Funny how times change. Maybe you should tell him about this awesome website you found and he should come and check it out.
Yeah. I think he gets exhausted by political discussion tbh. It is funny how I stayed and he left. And speaking of Spencer, I never hear his name anymore or Pam Geller.
re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Musk is a jackass. He has only himself to blame because he’s an ill tempered prick.
re: #230 Teddy’s Person
I’m gonna just go ahead and say it. I’d kill baby Hitler.
(I’m in a bit of a mood today)
What if you go back in time and just take Mrs. Schichtelgruber off for a wild romantic vacation full of sin and sensuality, so Mr. Schichtelgruber misses the window? Nobody has to die, nobody has to kill a baby.
But what happens if you come back to the present and history is the same? That would mean Hitler was always your son?
Has SMOTI acknowledged his fake news post about the forced-birth march?
re: #238 Belafon
He’s been hoping to mass produce a major electric vehicle, but it sounds like he really needs to stick with the high end market. He’ll drive down prices more if he stays in business than if he can’t make a profit on a hope.
Trump call to end the hybrid/electric car purchase subsidies pretty much gutted his business model
re: #239 HappyWarrior
Yeah. I think he gets exhausted by political discussion tbh. It is funny how I stayed and he left. And speaking of Spencer, I never hear his name anymore or Pam Geller.
Which is a damn good thing. I hope they fall off the edge of the flat earth.
re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White
What if you go back in time and just take Mrs. Schichtelgruber off for a wild romantic vacation full of sin and sensuality, so Mr. Schichtelgruber misses the window? Nobody has to die, nobody has to kill a baby.
But what happens if you come back to the present and history is the same? That would mean Hitler was always your son?
They were Mr. & Mrs. Hitler at that point. :) Just saying, lest the wrong door be knocked up in Braunau Am Inn. And remember to go to Austria and not Germany too. Lots of people make that mistake when they try to stop Baby Hitler.
re: #245 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Which is a damn good thing. I hope they fall off the edge of the flat earth.
Ditto
re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White
What if you go back in time and just take Mrs. Schichtelgruber off for a wild romantic vacation full of sin and sensuality, so Mr. Schichtelgruber misses the window? Nobody has to die, nobody has to kill a baby.
But what happens if you come back to the present and history is the same? That would mean Hitler was always your son?
Better (worse) yet: you come back and although Hitler never happened, the world is an even more hellish place as a result of Hitler never existing.
Somebody with more video editing chops than me needs to do a version of Baby Shark with Baby Hitler. The little fishies could all have @benshapiro’s face.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 18, 2019
re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White
What if you go back in time and just take Mrs. Schichtelgruber off for a wild romantic vacation full of sin and sensuality, so Mr. Schichtelgruber misses the window? Nobody has to die, nobody has to kill a baby.
But what happens if you come back to the present and history is the same? That would mean Hitler was always your son?
you would have had to somehow be predestined to go back in time to make this all possible
and then must accept that the line of time is linear, if just a bit…curvaceous
TBH knowing Hitler’s story sort of ruined the suspense in Boys From Brazil but it’s still a fun even if a bit silly movie. Marathon Man is probably more realistic. I always wondered if Mengele saw those movies in hiding.
re: #248 Nyet
Better (worse) yet: you come back and although Hitler never happened, the world is an even more hellish place as a result of Hitler never existing.
“Well good job, you have unpaid child support going back to 1889 and Reinhard Heydrich II is about to announce his successor.
re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White
What if you go back in time and just take Mrs. Schichtelgruber off for a wild romantic vacation full of sin and sensuality, so Mr. Schichtelgruber misses the window? Nobody has to die, nobody has to kill a baby.
But what happens if you come back to the present and history is the same? That would mean Hitler was always your son?
TBH, killing one person or stsopping them from being born probably wouldn’t change anything. Hitler didn’t do it by himself. Probably a more effect use of time travel would be to go way back and try to stop the laws that created the social/political/economic structures that made Jews outcasts, scapegoats, and second-class citizens in the first place.
re: #252 HappyWarrior
King described the scenario well in his JFK book.
re: #247 HappyWarrior
Ditto
Funny story about that: Robert Spencer used to be on my daily reading list when I was in Wingnuttia. I’m trying to remember what it was that clued me in about him; probably around the time that his ties as a white supremacist started coming out, I think. I’ve been a lot of things, but a Nazi is not one of them.
re: #255 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Funny story about that: Robert Spencer used to be on my daily reading list when I was in Wingnuttia. I’m trying to remember what it was that clued me in about him; probably around the time that his ties as a white supremacist started coming out, I think. I’ve been a lot of things, but a Nazi is not one of them.
And that’s to your credit. Some people double down when stuff like that emerges.
re: #248 Nyet
yeah because someone like Heydrich gets to be in charge, someone who could dispassionately make evil decisions and not be as prone to the megalomania, although it could also be said that just because you’re a competent captain it doesn’t mean that you have what it takes to be a general…
whole lotta what ifs in play in that theoretical decision tree/alternative timeline(s)
As you guys know, I do my family research. My mom’s grandfather lost his first wife to TB and I was talking about that one night and Mom could only say well thank goodness for TB. And I guess that’s fate. Fate is the events that lead us to be here today.
re: #258 piratedan
yeah because someone like Heydrich gets to be in charge, someone who could dispassionately make evil decisions and not be as prone to the megalomania, although it could also be said that just because you’re a competent captain it doesn’t mean that you have what it takes to be a general…
whole lotta what ifs in play in that theoretical decision tree/alternative timeline(s)
Yeah very true. That said I’m glad Anthropod worked.
re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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I truly hate Millken. That son of a CENSORED junk bonded the steel industry to death and then he stole the pension and health insurance reserve funds. He destroyed the lives of thousands of people in Western PA.
When that prick contracted prostate cancer, I was rooting for the cancer. But he was rich enough to buy a cure…
Of all Hitler’s lackeys, Heydrich with absolute power scares me the most.
re: #233 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Any bets on the timetable of when some MAGA decides to throw a brick through a Democratic congressman’s office window? I’m pretty sure that it’s going to happen before the scheduled SOTU address day.
re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹
I truly hate Millken. That son of a CENSORED junk bonded the steel industry to death and then he stole the pension and health insurance reserve funds. He destroyed the lives of thousands of people in Western PA.
When that prick contracted prostate cancer, I was rooting for the cancer. But he was rich enough to buy a cure…
Joe, was he the one that canceled the Bethlehem Steel pensions? I remember that. My grand uncle had passed away by then but I was furious for the many men and women who dedicated their careers only to lose their pension to corporate greed.
re: #258 piratedan
I don’t mean anything or anyone in particular. Unknown unknowns/butterfly effect.
re: #171 MsJ
There’s blood on her hands. What an absolutely despicable person.
WWII as we know it changed the world in more ways than we can ever think of. And if you love pizza, you’re going to be hard pressed finding it in a world without Hitler. So that begs the question, bring a box of pizza and leave some on the counter after you kill Hitler. That’s the lesson I think that should be taken here.
— WB Young 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) January 18, 2019
Then there is the question of the billions of people who would not come to exist if you change history drastically by killing Hitler.
Haven’t you de facto killed them all?
re: #267 HappyWarrior
WWII as we know it changed the world in more ways than we can ever think of. And if you love pizza, you’re going to be hard pressed finding it in a world without Hitler. So that begs the question, bring a box of pizza and leave some on the counter after you kill Hitler. That’s the lesson I think that should be taken here.
And the thing is, America was getting involved in a lot of the things the Germans were doing. The Final Solution was all his, but we were practicing eugenics, racism and anti-semitism were alive and well. There’s no telling where we would have ended up.
Apparently, the government shutdown hasn’t stopped Lindsey Graham from going to Turkey to meet with Erdogan.
re: #265 Nyet
understood, was just speculating myself, who knows if a Hitler-less Nazi party rises to power or even takes control of Germany, could have been for the best or even a possibility of it being worse, but History is what it is (at least the parts that we’ve come to know).
re: #269 Nyet
Then there is the question of the billions of people who would not come to exist if you change history drastically by killing Hitler.
Haven’t you de facto killed them all?
Yeah you don’t get the post WWII population boom. I’m probably not here.
re: #269 Nyet
Then there is the question of the billions of people who would not come to exist if you change history drastically by killing Hitler.
Haven’t you de facto killed them all?
That’s kind of the anti-abortion argument. The only difference is we’re on the other side of history.
Question: If I’m taking a red-eye flight that leaves at 11:59 pm, when should I get to the airport?
re: #271 Teddy’s Person
Apparently, the government shutdown hasn’t stopped Lindsey Graham from going to Turkey to meet with Erdogan.
He can stay there for all I care.
re: #274 Belafon
That’s kind of the anti-abortion argument. The only difference is we’re on the other side of history.
Not anywhere near. Because these people actually exist.
re: #270 Belafon
And the thing is, America was getting involved in a lot of the things the Germans were doing. The Final Solution was all his, but we were practicing eugenics, racism and anti-semitism were alive and well. There’s no telling where we would have ended up.
That’s what a lot of us don’t like to talk about. And that really is something that has taken “the good war” mythos away from me as I’ve come to learn more about our and our allies societies in the years leading up to WWII. That doesn’t mean it was the wrong war to fight but it does make everything a little more complicated.
re: #275 mmmirele
Question: If I’m taking a red-eye flight that leaves at 11:59 pm, when should I get to the airport?
I usually allot myself two hours for domestic flights and 2:30-3 for international but my belief has always rather early than late and if early there’s always the bar.
re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White
What if you go back in time and just take Mrs. Schichtelgruber off for a wild romantic vacation full of sin and sensuality, so Mr. Schichtelgruber misses the window? Nobody has to die, nobody has to kill a baby.
But what happens if you come back to the present and history is the same? That would mean Hitler was always your son?
Mind blown!
re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I think most of this will be in the sales end of things. Some of the stupid thing I heard from sales/service reps just boggles my mind. I went with a friend to get his front headlights checked out. Significant gaps between the headlights and body panels.
2 service guys said “that’s there to help cool the LED headlights.”
They went on a hiring frenzy during “production hell”, and brought in all kinds of people who were totally clueless. I hope he’s getting rid of them.
We will see. Still love my Model 3. Best car I’ve had. Haven’t been to a gas station since September. Haven’t had any service on it either. Hasn’t needed anything. My last several cars were back at the dealer within 2 weeks for pretty significant stuff.
Tell that Viennese art school director to give that Hitler kid a chance. He’s got spunk!
But really I’ve always been annoyed when people try to use it as a serious talking point because we’re in the present. We’re in a reality where Hitler has happened and instead of an unknown future where pizzerias aren’t everywhere (I’m sorry but I have to repeat again just how much WWII did for the pizza industry), we have a history where WWII and Hitler did happen and we can have pizza. I hate it but there are other equally what if questions that also could have saved lives but definitely impacted the world in so many ways. Having no Bubonic Plague for starters.
I will be making a major announcement concerning the Humanitarian Crisis on our Southern Border, and the Shutdown, tomorrow afternoon at 3 P.M., live from the @WhiteHouse.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2019
re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
There’s the State of Emergency. Orange Moron is going to do it.
re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Unless Trump says, “I’m giving up,” it’ll go over like another wet fart.
re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Trying to change the news cycle.
Literally everything he tweets is an attempt to change the news cycle. Day after day.
.@Aeromexico wins Troll of the Month award. Hands down. pic.twitter.com/e9vrpXoUNh
— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) January 17, 2019
A few months back, my brother and I were watching the Godzilla reboot with Bryan Cranston from 2014. (It’s not a great movie. It’s like seeing through mud and all the good action happens at night. The cheesy Japanese Godzilla movies are better.) Anyway, the action of the first part of the movie takes place in 1999, then moves to 2014. I said to my brother: “These guys live in a world where they had no Godzilla stomping on Tokyo in the first Godzilla movie in 1954.” I know, we didn’t in this timeline either, but we have fiction about Godzilla. They didn’t even have fiction.
My point is, this is all more realistic than the idiot speculation about killing Baby Hitler by Ben Shapiro.
re: #290 Myron Falwell
Unless Trump says, “I’m giving up,” it’ll go over like another wet fart.
He is going to claim emergency powers to build the wall and other stuff while telling Congress to send him a wall-less bill to end the shutdown.
That’s my bet.
re: #283 HappyWarrior
But really I’ve always been annoyed when people try to use it as a serious talking point because we’re in the present. We’re in a reality where Hitler has happened and instead of an unknown future where pizzerias aren’t everywhere (I’m sorry but I have to repeat again just how much WWII did for the pizza industry), we have a history where WWII and Hitler did happen and we can have pizza. I hate it but there are other equally what if questions that also could have saved lives but definitely impacted the world in so many ways. Having no Bubonic Plague for starters.
I do enjoy alternative history stories. And now I tweet at Harry Turtledove and he tweets back!
re: #289 plansbandc
There’s the State of Emergency. Orange Moron is going to do it.
If he’s finally giving in to the State of Emergency, he gave everyone else a gargantuan amount of time to prepare any/all court challenges.
Still, it’s his only out in an unwinnable situation.
re: #264 HappyWarrior
Yes. He grabbed Bethlehem, LTV, Armco, Wheeling Pittsburgh and USX.
re: #248 Nyet
Better (worse) yet: you come back and although Hitler never happened, the world is an even more hellish place as a result of Hitler never existing.
I’d bet real money somebody’s published a book based on that idea.
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re: #296 Myron Falwell
If he’s finally giving in to the State of Emergency, he gave everyone else a gargantuan amount of time to prepare any/all court challenges.
Still, it’s his only out in an unwinnable situation.
He’s going to claim a State of Emergency and call it a win. He doesn’t care how it really turns out later, he’ll take the win now and explain how his upcoming defeat isn’t a defeat at all when the time comes.
Dunkin won’t eat his food unless it is microwaved, because he thinks that makes it human food…😂😂😂
📹ig: dunkinandkirby pic.twitter.com/RKTSen3AEd— The Invisible Man (@invisibleman_17) January 18, 2019
THEY’RE NOT FACTS, you stupid media toads!
Here’s a prototype of the red foam bricks the Trump campaign plans to start mailing to Pelosi and Schumer, as political advisers urge Trump to keep up the border wall fight. Each brick has a border security fact and a Trump campaign logo. w/@michaelcbender https://t.co/LbL3xRV6n6 pic.twitter.com/m101pPSaC4
— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) January 18, 2019
re: #295 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I do enjoy alternative history stories. And now I tweet at Harry Turtledove and he tweets back!
I do too. I just don’t like it being used to discuss policy as Ben is trying to. I’m fascinated considering what would happen if event A didn’t but tbh I’m more so by it on the smaller personal level. What if my great grandfather’s first wife doesn’t die young. What if my grandfather’s two siblings before him and his sister aren’t stillbirths. What if my great grandmother doesn’t die young. What if my other grandfather’s sister doesn’t get Spinal Menegtis. But I can see why that wouldn’t interest the massss.
re: #263 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
Any bets on the timetable of when some MAGA decides to throw a brick through a Democratic congressman’s office window? I’m pretty sure that it’s going to happen before the scheduled SOTU address day.
More like a brick of C4. MAGAts are insane.
re: #297 Joe Bacon 🌹
Yes. He grabbed Bethlehem, LTV, Armco, Wheeling Pittsburgh and USX.
I thought so.
re: #295 NO SMOCKING GUN!
still partial to H. Beam Piper’s He Walked Around The Horsesshort story…
re: #300 bd(it’s all true)
He’s going to claim a State of Emergency and call it a win. He doesn’t care how it really turns out later, he’ll take the win now and explain how his upcoming defeat isn’t a defeat at all when the time comes.
It’ll only be a win to Ann Coulter and the other whackos who thought that this would be such a bigly win for him.
That 25-30% would believe an invasion of Washington DC by an army of sentient cupcakes would be a stroke of national security genius for the 3D chess player.
re: #304 MsJ
well first there was the vandalization of Congresswoman’s Giffords offices in Tucson and then a bit later they attempted to murder her, so yeah, not like we haven’t seen this coming and this was to GIVE people health care….
re: #300 bd(it’s all true)
He’s going to claim a State of Emergency and call it a win. He doesn’t care how it really turns out later, he’ll take the win now and explain how his upcoming defeat isn’t a defeat at all when the time comes.
He’ll probably tweet that he completed the wall before the Court ended the “emergency” MAGA!
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 18, 2019
re: #275 mmmirele
Question: If I’m taking a red-eye flight that leaves at 11:59 pm, when should I get to the airport?
At this point, at least 2.5 hours. I’d usually say just one hour for a red eye but not now. Better to be there waiting at the gate than waiting at TSA and missing your flight.
re: #298 Blind Frog Belly White
I’d bet real money somebody’s published a book based on that idea.
Okay here’s my premise. Some very idealistic scientists develop time travel. They all agree KILL HITLER and they succeed. Hitler is gone but their machine as they attempt to return to the present begins to falter because the only reason they invented time travel was to kill Hitter who is no longer in their timeline. Or they face an angry Austrian mob for killing that Hitler kid.
re: #254 Nyet
King described the scenario well in his JFK book.
There’s also the Red Dwarf episode where
they go back to Earth and inadvertently end up in Dallas on That Day, arriving in the School Book Repository building before Oswald gets there, so he has to go up to the next floor, which ruins his shot.
They end up recruiting the impeached and disgraced JFK at Idlewild airport in 1964, and convince him to shoot himself from The Grassy Knoll, restoring time to its original shape.
re: #304 MsJ
More like a brick of C4. MAGAts are insane.
Considering their “intellect,” the brick of C4 would explode in their hands first.
The Rage Furby took his Facebook page down again.
Better yet a legal theiller about the trial of the Hitler baby killers. Because tbh they kill Hitler, their machine probably is kaput.
For some reason, the Time Enforcement Commission keeps stopping time-travelers in the 1970s trying to assassinate a minor New York real-estate developer.
re: #317 Deep State SuperElite Satinist
For some reason, the Time Enforcement Commission keeps stopping time-travelers in the 1970s trying to assassinate a minor New York real-estate developer.
Everybody has a price…
re: #294 bd(it’s all true)
He is going to claim emergency powers to build the wall and other stuff while telling Congress to send him a wall-less bill to end the shutdown.
That’s my bet.
If he doesn’t do that and keeps this going, it’s proof that there’s no sign of intellect left at that place.
Considering Trump met with Gorka and a whole bunch of talk radio hosts last night, it had to have been all about how they can try to spin this outright defeat as a win.
re: #315 Charles Johnson
The Rage Furby took his Facebook page down again.
Before I had a chance to friend him!?!?!
re: #275 mmmirele
Question: If I’m taking a red-eye flight that leaves at 11:59 pm, when should I get to the airport?
Wednesday.
re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Past time the media decided not to give him air time - but of course they will
- endless discussion as to what he will say
- speech - well drivel from mouth
- endless discussion as to what he said
re: #312 HappyWarrior
Okay here’s my premise. Some very idealistic scientists develop time travel. They all agree KILL HITLER and they succeed. Hitler is gone but their machine as they attempt to return to the present begins to falter because the only reason they invented time travel was to kill Hitter who is no longer in their timeline. Or they face an angry Austrian mob for killing that Hitler kid.
The only way time travel possibly works is if every instance involves traveling to an alternate Universe where the record needle of time just happens to be set to an earlier “now” point in the groove. So from that alternative Universe “past” you should only be able to create and go “forward” to alternative presents and futures, with no way to return to your original starting point in your original Universe. Even if you could it would be like you never left and didn’t change anything, because all the actions you took would be playing out in alternate timelines.
Beyond the practical and logical aspects this is also the only ethical way for time travel to ever work, because your actions wouldn’t invariably cause millions of people to be erased from existence altogether.
re: #323 goddamnedfrank
The only way time travel possibly works is if every instance involves traveling to an alternate Universe where the record needle of time just happens to be set to an earlier “now” point in the groove. So you from that alternative Universe “past” you should only be able to create and go “forward” to alternative presents and future, with no way to return to your original starting point in your original Universe. Even if you could it would be like you never left and didn’t change anything, because all the actions you took would be playing out in alternate timelines.
Beyond the practical and logical aspects this is also the only ethical way for time travel to ever work, because your actions wouldn’t invariably cause millions of people to be erased from existence altogether.
Well you’re no fun lol. I was just pushing a silly hypothetical sci-fi story. But you are of course correct.
Is the other sign a vagina dentata?https://t.co/KupjPNuJSs
— The Monkey’s Paw (@TheEdMix) January 18, 2019
re: #322 fern01
Past time the media decided not to give him air time - but of course they will
- endless discussion as to what he will say
- speech - well drivel from mouth
- endless discussion as to what he said
The bothsiders media will be the only ones outside of the rubes who will publicly say what a great move this was, while in Real Life, Trump can’t sell this if his life depended on it.
re: #315 Charles Johnson
The Rage Furby took his Facebook page down again.
Dude is like mildew in the shower grout.
ABB, always be bleaching.
re: #326 gocart mozart
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re: #312 HappyWarrior
Okay here’s my premise. Some very idealistic scientists develop time travel. They all agree KILL HITLER and they succeed. Hitler is gone but their machine as they attempt to return to the present begins to falter because the only reason they invented time travel was to kill Hitter who is no longer in their timeline. Or they face an angry Austrian mob for killing that Hitler kid.
Or the time machine’s design either didn’t include getting back, which could be because forward and backward travel are fundamentally different at the Physics level, or the machine is not designed to go forward in time to a specific date, but rather to simply return to its origin, but the timeline changed so much it can’t identify an origin to return to.
Or you don’t have any way to generate 1.21 GW of power…..
re: #323 goddamnedfrank
Usual back-to-the-future like scenarios presuppose the incoherent mix of the dynamic 3D and static 4D models of spacetime…
re: #326 gocart mozart
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I was wondering about that yesterday. I’m not seeing how a vagina dentata really supports an antiabortion position.
re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
It
Just
Doesn’t
Stop
With
These
Fucking
People
You can see why people consider just throwing up their hands and giving up
The Treasury Department decided that Mnuchin “did not need an ethics waiver” to ride on Milken’s jet, even though Mnuchin has lobbied the President to pardon Milken https://t.co/HQ8Glp2tj7
— Ben Walsh (@BenDWalsh) January 18, 2019
re: #319 Myron Falwell
If he doesn’t do that and keeps this going, it’s proof that there’s no sign of intellect left at that place.
Considering Trump met with Gorka and a whole bunch of talk radio hosts last night, it had to have been all about how they can try to spin this outright defeat as a win.
Honestly, it’s his only offramp that doesn’t involve either giving in or being overridden by Congress.
I will be making a major announcement concerning the Humanitarian Crisis on our Southern Border, and the Shutdown, tomorrow afternoon at 3 P.M., live from the @WhiteHouse.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2019
Roll the dice. https://t.co/ZEBNcPDy1E
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 18, 2019
it’s a 20-sided dice with every side having a giant L on it https://t.co/Q4wsfmuVXr
— It’s Myron Falwell! (@myronfalwell) January 18, 2019
re: #333 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
You can see why people consider just throwing up their hands and giving up
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I need to familiarize myself with this term, ‘ethics waiver’.
re: #334 Blind Frog Belly White
Honestly, it’s his only offramp that doesn’t involve either giving in or being overridden by Congress.
If I were Trump (thank Dog I’m not!) I’d offer to imediately reopen the government, followed by legislation offering the Dreamers permanent residency with a path to citizenship in return for wall funding. It would regain moral high ground and put the onus on the Democrats to do something. But Trump is too racist to do it.
re: #336 wrenchwench
I need to familiarize myself with this term, ‘ethics waiver’.
You wave ethics bye bye.
There’s a food line for furloughed federal workers in DC that currently stretches around the side of this building. pic.twitter.com/ZizvDGUXu6
— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) January 18, 2019
America 2019: bread lines for people who *have* jobs https://t.co/ZKARU4gcgx
— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) January 18, 2019
re: #336 wrenchwench
I need to familiarize myself with this term, ‘ethics waiver’.
It’s what happens when an ethics team is run by the Hamburdler
and matt walsh and tomi lahren and that kent state idiot and the whole septic tank of their ilk. they truly DO NOT EXIST outside of twitter. I read news from lots of sources. and magically, these asshorns don’t come across my eyeballs as long as i STAY OFF TWITTER
— Sara Schaefer (@saraschaefer1) January 18, 2019
For everyone who knew and loved my good friend R. Lee Ermey (THE GUNNY), he will be interned at Arlington National Cemetery at 10:00 am, January 18th (tomorrow). Please attend if you’re in the area and render him one final salute. He loved you all. #gunny pic.twitter.com/Ctjv39XqJI
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) January 17, 2019
When you lay a departed person to rest, that’s interred, not interned. You’re thinking of children.https://t.co/dxgO0y2WXE
— NeverSaid”Hat” (@Popehat) January 18, 2019
I hate these traitors with the heat of 1000 suns.
Russian State Television applauding these GOP politicians.
Congratulations on your services to Russia. pic.twitter.com/0pOKv4aaVy— The Hummingbird 🐦 (@SaysHummingbird) January 18, 2019
re: #337 NO SMOCKING GUN!
If I were Trump (thank Dog I’m not!) I’d offer to imediately reopen the government, followed by legislation offering the Dreamers permanent residency with a path to citizenship in return for wall funding. It would regain moral high ground and put the onus on the Democrats to do something. But Trump is too racist to do it.
I’m thinking he realized how much of a corner he’s painted himself into by reacting yesterday with that childish, “Oh, yeah? Well if I can’t speak to Congress, YOU can’t go into a warzone!” bullshit, becaue the corollaries are starting to bite him in the ass. Like, maybe Melania said she’s cool with staying at Mar-a-Lago without him indefinitely.
the only reason ben shapiro wouldn’t kill baby hitler is because he needs baby hitler’s help opening jars
— m i t h (@ManInTheHoody) January 18, 2019
I think every Republican politician and media figure should be asked if they’re a flight risk and what information they plan to offer Russia to accelerate their requests for asylum.
re: #342 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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I knew Ermey was a wingnut but him being friends with a chickenshit coward like Jr is still disappointing.
re: #343 MsJ
I hate these traitors with the heat of 1000 suns.
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Did Bernie also get a thank you for not voting at all?
re: #350 MsJ
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I need to swear less.
No, you fucking don’t. Trump’s America needs all the cursing it can get.
re: #348 HappyWarrior
I knew Ermey was a wingnut but him being friends with a chickenshit coward like Jr is still disappointing.
Hey, treasonous chickenshit cowards need friends, too!
re: #351 HappyWarrior
Did Bernie also get a thank you for not voting at all?
Wouldn’t that almost be too easy?
re: #339 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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re: #353 Myron Falwell
Speaking of Ben, this roasting of one of his Dennis Prager videos by Anthony Fantano is still pretty good
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He still remains the oldest 85 year old I know who has 35 on his license. Ben that is.
re: #355 Myron Falwell
Wouldn’t that almost be too easy?
Well I wanted to know if the Russians were feeling particularly thankful to their left ally.
Sure. Why the 🤬 not.
Ga. lawmaker who defended Klan named to House post on eve of King day
https://t.co/TLxfjkdBgo— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) January 18, 2019
So wait, is Trump going on national TV again tomorrow or is this just some announcement from the west lawn or something?
re: #354 wrenchwench
Hey, treasonous chickenshit cowards need friends, too!
I know. I just thought a combat vet would be able to see Bonespur Jr for what he is. But I’m sure they shared bigotry given Ermeys bigoted anti Obama screed.
If you can travel to the past, the past co-exists, in a certain sense, with the present. If the past co-exists with the present, it cannot do so dynamically (since you already exist in the present dynamically), the past is static. So if you “arrive” in the past you are simply frozen, the “frontier of change” being far away in the future, because you are not some special god-person who carries the “frontier of change” with you. (Which means you can’t really “arrive” in the past, since it’s a dynamic process.)
No change of the past can take place, unless some sort of meta-time exists, because the change of the past must “occur” (hint, hint) outside of our time (part of our spacetime), relative to the old state of the spacetime. Such a change can only be meaningful - if at all - outside of our spacetime, in a meta-time. Anything involving a change of the spacetime involves dynamics relative to something outside of the spacetime.
The usual time travel films/books accept the “frontier of change” in the present, then move it with the personages to the past, although this makes no sense. In these films/books it’s the “present” moment as experienced by the heroes that counts, but why? It has no special physical significance.
///BREAKING/// Chicago police Officer Jason Van Dyke sentenced to 6 years and 9 months in prison for shooting black teen #LaquanMcDonald 16 times in 2014.
— Jason Meisner (@jmetr22b) January 18, 2019
re: #364 Nyet
If you can travel to the past, the past co-exists, in a certain sense, with the present. If the past co-exists with the present, it cannot do so dynamically (since you already exist in the present dynamically), the past is static. So if you “arrive” in the past you are simply frozen, the “frontier of change” being far away in the future, because you are not some special god-person who carries the “frontier of change” with you. (Which means you can’t really “arrive” in the past, since it’s a dynamic process.)
No change of the past can take place, unless some sort of meta-time exists, because the change of the past must “occur” (hint, hint) outside of our time (part of our spacetime), relative to the old state of the spacetime. Such a change can only be meaningful - if at all - outside of our spacetime, in a meta-time. Anything involving a change of the spacetime involves dynamics relative to something outside of the spacetime.
The usual time travel films/books accept the “frontier of change” in the present, then move it with the personages to the past, although this makes no sense. In these films/books it’s the “present” moment as experienced by the heroes that counts, but why? It has no special physical significance.
Because it has narrative significance.
NEW YORK (AP) — A Duke University team expects to have a product available for election year that will allow television networks to offer real-time fact checks onscreen when a politician makes a questionable claim during a speech or debate.
https://t.co/uryvlfFzwb— Bill Adair (@BillAdairDuke) January 18, 2019
re: #365 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Better than nothing but if the situation was reversed. It would be lwop.
re: #366 Blind Frog Belly White
Because it has narrative significance.
Because time-travelers are the greatest, I promise.
Have you seen trumps commercial about calling in and pressing “one” to support the building of the wall? At the end of the message it says press “two” if you are against it. Do your thing!
Here’s the number.
[no phone numbers allowed]— David Hoffman (@atDavidHoffman) January 18, 2019
“It’s my birthday. The happiest day of the year.”~A.A.Milne #HappyBirthdayAAMilne #WinnieThePoohDay pic.twitter.com/yduufBK02l
— A.A.Milne (@A_AMilne) January 18, 2019
re: #368 MsJ
That seems like overkill for Trump. A simple neon-red “Trump is lying” message in 3” high blinking text could be played nonstop over all Trump television appearances.
re: #373 EPR-radar
That seems like overkill for Trump. A simple neon-red “Trump is lying” message in 3” high blinking text could be played nonstop over all Trump television appearances.
What if he says, “Everything I tell you is a lie”, though?
This bullshit again?
Or are you actually going to do it this time? Declare yourself a king and bypass congress, rob the military, and build your monument to racism and hate? That’s it, isn’t it? That’s what you’re planning. That’s what the vague-tweeting was about, wasn’t it? https://t.co/Cp1onlm7tu— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 18, 2019
re: #329 HappyWarrior
Okay, you reject abortion. No one’s forcing you to get one.
Trump is their dream - Forcing others to “do what I say” is their goal in life.
Trump: I will be making a major announcement. It will be racist as hell & intended to scare the ever loving shit out of old people but hopefully it’ll make everyone forget I’m a criminal, traitor, & creating actual breadlines over a wall I told y’all someone else would pay for.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) January 18, 2019
Trump tomorrow: Hello, America. Today I’d like to talk to you about prayer rugs made of yellow cake uranium that Colin Kaepernick is smuggling into the US.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) January 18, 2019
re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg
So wait, is Trump going on national TV again tomorrow or is this just some announcement from the west lawn or something?
Well, it’s at 3pm eastern on a Saturday, which makes it feel more and more like they just wanna get this over with ASAP.
re: #333 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
You can see why people consider just throwing up their hands and giving up
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re: #377 teleskiguy
I honestly don’t think he will, at least, not yet. That’s his (ahem) trump card, his ace in the hole. He pulls that trigger, he will never be able to deflect attention from anything else. He’s going to try to exhaust all options before metaphorically nuking DC.
re: #364 Nyet
If you can travel to the past, the past co-exists, in a certain sense, with the present. If the past co-exists with the present, it cannot do so dynamically (since you already exist in the present dynamically), the past is static. So if you “arrive” in the past you are simply frozen, the “frontier of change” being far away in the future, because you are not some special god-person who carries the “frontier of change” with you. (Which means you can’t really “arrive” in the past, since it’s a dynamic process.)
No change of the past can take place, unless some sort of meta-time exists, because the change of the past must “occur” (hint, hint) outside of our time (part of our spacetime), relative to the old state of the spacetime. Such a change can only be meaningful - if at all - outside of our spacetime, in a meta-time. Anything involving a change of the spacetime involves dynamics relative to something outside of the spacetime.
The usual time travel films/books accept the “frontier of change” in the present, then move it with the personages to the past, although this makes no sense. In these films/books it’s the “present” moment as experienced by the heroes that counts, but why? It has no special physical significance.
Prove it.
re: #337 NO SMOCKING GUN!
If I were Trump (thank Dog I’m not!) I’d offer to imediately reopen the government, followed by legislation offering the Dreamers permanent residency with a path to citizenship in return for wall funding. It would regain moral high ground and put the onus on the Democrats to do something. But Trump is too racist to do it.
trump has NO idea how to draft legislation. And he has no-one working for him who has a clue about what is supposed to be done in the White House. He thinks legislation is what congress does. The President tells congress what he wants & congress jumps to attention and does it.
re: #380 Myron Falwell
Well, it’s at 3pm eastern on a Saturday, which makes it feel more and more like they just wanna get this over with ASAP.
His State of the Disunion Address.
re: #377 teleskiguy
He just wants out and wants it in a way that can be spun as a win. Doesn’t matter if he loses in the courts. He needs an escape ramp to make him look good to the eroding base.
Continuing this charade was frankly untenable.
re: #386 wrenchwench
His State of the Disunion Address.
Written on one of the used hamburder wrappers from Monday night in crayon
re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg
So wait, is Trump going on national TV again tomorrow or is this just some announcement from the west lawn or something?
Of course he is going on national TV - he wants the media to focus on me me me
re: #120 Scottish Dragon
OK, school’s out. Back to my crapped out laptop with dysfunctional keys that you really need to work….
If some keys are unreliable or don’t work at all, there are workarounds. Had an Enter key that quit working, so for about 6 months, I made do with Ctrl-M. Some keyboards have a numeric keypad, and for many that don’t, you may have the option of emulating one in a subset of the main keys array. With a numeric keypad, you can enter ANY valid ascii character, whether printable or not. You just need to hold down one of the ALT keys while you press three digits for the DECIMAL value of the desired ASCII character, using 1 or 2 leading zeros for any below 100.
For example, 065 is the decimal value for A, so if your A-key is broken, hold down ALT while you press 0 6 5 on the numeric pad, then release the ALT key. (You *cannot* use the top-row numeric keys for this. It must be the numeric keypad —or an emulation of such within your main keyboard, sometimes toggled on/off by a FN key.)
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Truly a grand bargain https://t.co/HmIw7YYkqa
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) January 19, 2019
Ben Shapiro at March for Life: “The truth is no pro-life person would kill baby Hitler. Baby Hitler was a baby.” pic.twitter.com/PPgQcbWSrq
— jordan (@JordanUhl) January 18, 2019
I dream of a pro-life movement that cared as much about real migrant children as the hypothetical danger of time-travellers killing baby Hitler. https://t.co/scHASvNxzN
— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) January 18, 2019
Anchor Babies?
Trump will probably stop the shut down and take full credit for being the hero that ended it.
He will also say that he hasn’t given up on his wall, instead claiming he is more determined than ever.
He will add we all need to defeat Chuck and Nancy and their radical left wing because they are still blocking it.
But don’t worry, Trump is trying to always Make America Great Again, but there are so many enemies. Fake news, bad cops, lying old lawyers he didn’t even know, everyone is out to get him
He wants to get back the high ground. Lying about everything will work with the base.
re: #368 MsJ
GOP politicians don’t care if they are fact checked. They just lie to their sycophant followers and are happy to win the moment. The lies of this president* have done nothing to stop his abusive illegal behavior - and he is still president*.
re: #391 teleskiguy
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re: #391 teleskiguy
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VP Pence, Senate Maj. Leader McConnell and Jared Kushner”
What kind of monster could oppose such a deal made by such true bipartisan, noble, sacrificing and transparent gentlemen!?
Ah. I see why he’s having his little whatever tomorrow.
On today’s episode of I don’t give a fuck#PresidentPelosi is trending & the traitor in the White House is not happy about it
Poor Russian asset can’t deal with the fact that he’s about to go to prison & so is Pence
And I so Don’t care about his feelings. Anybody give a fuck?— WTFGOP? Jail For #Individual1 (@DogginTrump) January 18, 2019
re: #391 teleskiguy
hahahahaha - some “senior administration official” believes there are fairies at the bottom of the garden.
re: #391 teleskiguy
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[trump] I HAVE COMPROMISED AND AM WILLING TO ACCEPT THE PLAN OFFERED BY MY SON IN LAW, MY VICE PRESIDENT AND THE SENATE GOP MAJORITY LEADER [/trump]
re: #389 fern01
Of course he is going on national TV - he wants the media to focus on me me me
3pm eastern on a Saturday afternoon is a far cry from a primetime address on a weeknight.
re: #401 Myron Falwell
3pm eastern on a Saturday afternoon is a far cry from a primetime address on a weeknight.
It’s 10:00 PM in Moscow, party time!
re: #401 Myron Falwell
3pm eastern on a Saturday afternoon is a far cry from a primetime address on a weeknight.
Good time to try and spin a loss into a victory, less eyeballs.
re: #384 Belafon
Prove it.
Well this so-called “block universe”, where everything is fixed from beginning to end, is it turns out, the prediction of General Relativity. Remember Kurt Gödel’s discovery that time travel into the past was possible in a rotating universe. We determined that the universe isn’t rotating fast enough (or at all) for his theory to work, and everybody wiped their brow: “Whew! Dodged a bullet there!”
That doesn’t really dispose of the issue, though, because in a rotating universe, if you move fast enough, you can see into neighboring light-cones (so to speak),and that means what you see has to be there, from the beginning, because no input from you could have affected it. And the topology of the universe is not going to suddenly change from open to fixed at a certain rotation rate, so a block universe it is.
A World Without Time: The Forgotten Legacy of Gödel and Einstein, by Palle Yourgrau
re: #323 goddamnedfrank
The only way time travel possibly works is if every instance involves traveling to an alternate Universe where the record needle of time just happens to be set to an earlier “now” point in the groove. So from that alternative Universe “past” you should only be able to create and go “forward” to alternative presents and futures, with no way to return to your original starting point in your original Universe. Even if you could it would be like you never left and didn’t change anything, because all the actions you took would be playing out in alternate timelines.
Multiverse model; John Scalzi uses a slightly different version of this idea to permit FTL travel in his Old Man’s War series.
Nothing is more characteristic of conservatism than framing oppression and objections to oppression as morally equivalent. https://t.co/PYaU6ayPyn
— David Roberts (@drvox) January 18, 2019
re: #401 Myron Falwell
3pm eastern on a Saturday afternoon is a far cry from a primetime address on a weeknight.
Given that it is (I think) 6am in my world - I should have realised that. The prime time ones - I am usually awake. I am happy to sleep through it. ObserverArt @ #393 may be close to reality.
re: #380 Myron Falwell
Well, it’s at 3pm eastern on a Saturday, which makes it feel more and more like they just wanna get this over with ASAP.
Well, I don’t know who will be watching that nonsense. But, I do know what I’ll be watching at 2 PM ET
Final preparations are underway for Saturday’s flight of a #DeltaIV Heavy rocket with the #NROL71 national security mission from Vandenberg @30thSpaceWing. Launch is planned for 1/19, 11:05am PST. The current weather outlook shows a 70% chance of favorable conditions for launch.
— ULA (@ulalaunch) January 17, 2019
UPDATE: A spokesperson for the special counsel is disputing BuzzFeed News’ report. https://t.co/BEoMKiDypn pic.twitter.com/GWWfGtyhaE
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) January 19, 2019
re: #382 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I honestly don’t think he will, at least, not yet. That’s his (ahem) trump card, his ace in the hole. He pulls that trigger, he will never be able to deflect attention from anything else. He’s going to try to exhaust all options before metaphorically nuking DC.
Assumes facts not in evidence; Trump’s not that fucking smart.
Hmmm. Maybe I was right to be skeptical after all.
A deal without Pelosi’s involvement? Hah. You call it what you want. https://t.co/ocRgRDej4z
— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) January 19, 2019
re: #382 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I honestly don’t think he will, at least, not yet. That’s his (ahem) trump card, his ace in the hole. He pulls that trigger, he will never be able to deflect attention from anything else. He’s going to try to exhaust all options before metaphorically nuking DC.
Alternative view:
He has probably figured out that the longer this goes on, the worse it looks for him. He was stung by Pelosi’s SOTU disinvitation, and didn’t think through the corollaries of his ‘Tit For Tat’ response. Plus he probably realizes that, although his recalcitrance is winning him plaudits from his hardcore base, it’s peeling the less fanatic off, because he doesn’t look strong, he looks weak, and he’s being outplayed by a GURL!!!
He knows he’s not going to get what he wants, and it’s not fun anymore. So he wants out. He really has 3 options:
1) Outright capitulation - agree to sign the CRs the Senate approved in the last Congress and the House passed in THIS Congress.
2) Tel Mitch to go ahead and pass those bills, he’ll veto, and the House and Senate will override.
Both of those are losses. The first means openly admitting defeat and everyone will see it. The second allows him to remain publicly defiant but means he was actually beaten and everyone will see it. So,
3) Declare an emergency to build the wall and signal McConnell that he’ll sign the CRs.
Yes, he KNOWS the emergency declaration will be tied up in courts for YEARS, and he’ll have been told by umpteen GOP leaders that it will establish a catastrophically bad precedent. But he doesn’t really care about precedent, and he actually doesn’t care about an actual wall. He only cares about being seen to be fighting for it.
SO, the emergency declaration allows him to ‘prove’ he’s fighting for it AND reopen government without having to either capitulate or be beaten.
re: #415 Charles Johnson
Hmmm. Maybe I was right to be skeptical after all.
Confirmation Bias 101.
Leopold’s got a lot to answer for now.
— The Monkey’s Paw (@TheEdMix) January 19, 2019
How did Michael Cohen get a black eye and his arm in a sling?
re: #415 Charles Johnson
Hmmm. Maybe I was right to be skeptical after all.
Skepticism is good.
So is Mueller reigning in the story.
He needs to be the one in control of what gets out and when. Even if this is correct, Mueller isn’t going to confirm it and they are not really denying it. Neutralized.
re: #420 bd(it’s all true)
How did Michael Cohen get a black eye and his arm in a sling?
Fell out of his 3rd-4th story bathroom window?
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re: #422 ObserverArt
Says the “description” is “not accurate.”
When you’ve no more fucks to give, but also need a theme song:https://t.co/DjjIbhnXQw
(The late George Formby is currently spinning at 78 rpm.)— Mike Dion (@6_string_theory) January 19, 2019
Right. It’s shocking that Autocorrect would replace. “interred” with the much more commonly typed “interned”. (and ps, you’re a dick.)
— Roxanne Chester (@ggm281) January 18, 2019
And you’re a taintsniffing fucksquib.
Sorry, that autocorrected from the more commonly typed taintlicking fucksqueal. https://t.co/uVXvnDXgbo— David Simon (@AoDespair) January 18, 2019
No? I feel I am channeling Noel Coward here.
— David Simon (@AoDespair) January 18, 2019
The taint and the scrote are both worthy of considered attention. But of course it matters so very much to whom that real estate belongs. An interpersonal context, as it were. My insults imply, I hope, a certain profligate indifference to such.
— David Simon (@AoDespair) January 18, 2019
Choose your fighter: Chris Wallace demanding the eternal truth of the bothsides dogma or Shep Smith pointing out that one side alone manufactured the shutdown crisis for leverage to get what he wants without negotiation. pic.twitter.com/6C7mNZvf9P
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 18, 2019
re: #414 TedStriker
Assumes facts not in evidence; Trump’s not that fucking smart.
His handlers are.
re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Oh please, Moscow Donny, please pardon Milken.
That will be the thing that breaks my father’s brain, and maybe makes him understand that Trump is a piece of shit. My father hates Milken for what he did, but doubly so because of old-school casual WASP Anti-Semitism. Trump pardoning that fucking Milken might be enough to re-arrange his thought process.
My dad is a good man, but his worldview is casually racist in the vintage style, and as we know, Trump conned a whole generation using that as leverage. This might be enough to wake up the old man.
Back from town. Needed a few groceries.
The owner of the market decided that they needed to change their music (from adult contemporary to Christian pop and rock, and then turn it way up).
Normally my wife and I will linger around the grocery store and usually wind up making all sorts of impulse buys. Not this time … in and out in ten minutes.
The clerk ask why we were so quick when usually we take much longer. My wife and I noted the awful music.
The clerk said that the owner decided that “more people here need to hear the Good Word (tm).”
I imagine if this goes on long enough, we will be taking those sixty-mile one way trips to shop elsewhere.
Uh oh.
I can’t speak to Buzzfeed’s sourcing, but, for what it’s worth, I declined to run with parts of the narrative they conveyed based on a source central to the story repeatedly disputing the idea that Trump directly issued orders of that kind.
— Ronan Farrow (@RonanFarrow) January 19, 2019
re: #376 Belafon
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Polaris (a Missile Command-style game) on the TRS-80 for me.
Later on, I had Missile Command on the Atari 7800. I remember it being spooky even then… Armageddon in video game form. O_o
AAAAAHH
— Endless Screaming ⚧ ☭ (@infinite_scream) January 19, 2019
Muuuuh Muuuuh Muuuuh Muuuuh Muuuuh Muuuuh Muuuuh Muuuuh Muuuuh Muuuuh
— Un Buey (@UnBuey) January 19, 2019
re: #422 ObserverArt
Skepticism is good.
So is Mueller reigning in the story.
He needs to be the one in control of what gets out and when. Even if this is correct, Mueller isn’t going to confirm it and they are not really denying it. Neutralized.
It speaks to their overall professionalism and diligence regarding this.
re: #422 ObserverArt
Skepticism is good.
So is Mueller reigning in the story.
He needs to be the one in control of what gets out and when. Even if this is correct, Mueller isn’t going to confirm it and they are not really denying it. Neutralized.
So we’re reduced to reading the tea leaves again.
Oh, joy.
Un Buey
@UnBuey
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So sad.
re: #437 Myron Falwell
Oh shit.
Well, we all know that Cohen lied in his congressional testimony, and that those lies were as directed by Trump.
The question is how much of this (and other Trumpshit) can be proven to an audience where between 1/3 and 1/2 are determined to view Trump as being pure as the driven snow.
Congratulations to the 195 new U.S. citizens sworn in today in Albuquerque. #NM pic.twitter.com/EEFP9iKCqR
— Martin Heinrich (@MartinHeinrich) January 19, 2019
re: #175 jeffreyw
I think I have Mint Trilby distro on a repurposed HP machine to the basement.//
My wife has Cinnamon Trilby on her computer.
re: #431 Charles Johnson
Uh oh.
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That said, best I sit and watch this one out until thing solidify. Too much chaff in the air right now.
It is my opinion is that we are facing a national crisis in the United States.
One of the effects of this crisis is that some media outlets will “break” stories that lack the type of vetting that decent people would like to assume are baked into the journalism cake. (Buzzfeed, meet McClatchy)
Just as bad, more cautious and respectable outlets will report that other outlets have “broken” these stories before doing their own vetting.
CUT THIS SHIT OUT ALREADY. THERE IS TOO MUCH AT STAKE.
re: #431 Charles Johnson
Uh oh.
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Then the key word becomes “directly.”
That could be what Mueller’s people mean by description of what went on.
The reason I believe some of it might be correct is the way many of the Democrats talked about it today. They said they needed to wait for the facts to come out.
But, they hinted this would not be out of line when you consider Cohen admitted he lied when first interviewed. And he has since come clean according to Mueller. Not one of them shot the story down which I think they would have done had it been pure BS.
That doesn’t rebut the BF story per se. It merely means the info didn’t stem from Mueller’s team.
That same info would be ascertainable through witnesses, people connected to them, ppl in other places in gov, etc.
I’m under-reacting to this one by choice. We’ll see.
2/2— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 19, 2019
BIll Maher is back live again tonight and being the glutton for punishment that I am, I will watch it.
Wait…….
Bill and his roundtable guests - Gov. John Kasich, Marshawn Lynch, Rep. Barney Frank, Catherine Rampell & Erick Erickson - will answer viewer questions after Friday’s show.
Nevermind….
re: #440 Anymouse 🌹
My wife has Cinnamon Trilby on her computer.
“Cinnamon Trilby” sounds like a plucky British secret agent in a 1960s spy movie that isn’t a Bond flick because her name can’t be reinterpreted as boobs, vulva, or a sex act.
re: #445 bd(it’s all true)
BIll Maher is back live again tonight and being the glutton for punishment that I am, I will watch it.
Wait…….
Nevermind….
Damn. Corrected the typo. I was ready to have fun with it.
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UPDATE: A spokesperson for the special counsel is disputing BuzzFeed News’ report. https://t.co/BEoMKiDypn pic.twitter.com/GWWfGtyhaE
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) January 19, 2019
1/ What this suggests to me is that some of the information relied upon by the sources cited by @BuzzFeedNews exists, but was mischaracterized by the sources, who I strongly suspect were not prosecutors. https://t.co/aLXGmNBi1T
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) January 19, 2019
re: #447 wrenchwench
Damn. Corrected the typo. I was ready to have fun with it.
hehehe!
dodged that bullet!
I can’t spell, do math or not be socially awkward….still looking for my niche.
re: #438 EPR-radar
Well, we all know that Cohen lied in his congressional testimony, and that those lies were under as directed by Trump.
The question is how much of this (and other Trumpshit) can be proven to an audience where between 1/3 and 1/2 are determined to view Trump as being pure as the driven snow.
When there are people like Mensch that have driven disinformation narratives, it doesn’t help.
I do feel bad for Laurence, he has no choice but to do a mea culpa on air tonight (yeah, he could ignore it like Lumpy ignored his Seth Rich disinfo being debunked soundly, but Lumpy is a thug).
This isn’t good for Buzzfeed, even if the story is partially accurate. They made a very specific bombshell allegation in there, and if you’re gonna commit like that you better have all the receipts.
re: #451 Charles Johnson
This isn’t good for Buzzfeed, even if the story is partially accurate. They made a very specific bombshell allegation in there, and if you’re gonna commit like that you better have all the receipts.
And make sure they’re valid (see: Rather, Dan)
re: #451 Charles Johnson
This isn’t good for Buzzfeed, even if the story is partially accurate. They made a very specific bombshell allegation in there, and if you’re gonna commit like that you better have all the receipts.
THIS.
re: #451 Charles Johnson
This isn’t good for Buzzfeed, even if the story is partially accurate. They made a very specific bombshell allegation in there, and if you’re gonna commit like that you better have all the receipts.
“When you strike at a king, you must kill him.”
― Ralph Waldo Emerson
I’m totally calm about this.
The Mueller statement talks about the *characterization* being wrong, not the content. This isn’t a sweeping “no.”
They *declined comment* on the front end and issued a wordsmithed statement.
Breathe.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 19, 2019
re: #227 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
There are a lot. That was a good year.
I’m practically an infant from Dec 9, 2015.
re: #456 Anymouse 🌹
I’m practically an infant from Dec 9, 2015.
I registered from my desk at work (I was a fresh college grad, sue me) on September 10, 2006.
re: #456 Anymouse 🌹
I’m practically an infant from Dec 9, 2015.
lol, that was my 34th birthday
I registered election night 2016 lol
Also notable they declined comment in the story itself and then released this *22 hours* after it published. Which is a little odd.
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) January 19, 2019
re: #451 Charles Johnson
This isn’t good for Buzzfeed, even if the story is partially accurate. They made a very specific bombshell allegation in there, and if you’re gonna commit like that you better have all the receipts.
Shouldn’t we let Buzzfeed respond? Let’s see if they can back it up.
lol, I am loving seeing the wingnuts cite the Mueller spokesman as a purveyor of the truth.
re: #455 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Agree with Rick here. Some people need to pump the brakes on going for the throat.
JFC this guy.
Very proud to have a President do what what he said he was going to do. For decades now @realdonaldtrump has been signaling the alarm against the hollowing out of America. Other countries have been “Dumping” and screwing over America for too long. Time to get tough! #maga #tbt pic.twitter.com/B7EIcrHxFb
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) March 8, 2018
Just a son who loves his Dad. Nice! https://t.co/ZI4012Ld7S
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 19, 2019
re: #273 HappyWarrior
Yeah you don’t get the post WWII population boom. I’m probably not here.
We definitely don’t want you to just blink out (but then, so would I as a tail-end baby boomer, so would I even notice).
re: #463 Charles Johnson
JFC this guy.
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having to incessantly grovel to your dad so he might give you a pardon in the future is about as pathetic as it gets.
btw, Ivanka sure has been quiet lately.
re: #460 ObserverArt
We’ll see. But it’s highly unusual for the Special Counsel to issue a statement like this, especially since they know how the Trump gang will use it. I don’t think they’d make this statement unless something was really off.
re: #451 Charles Johnson
It’s worse than that. They said they did have the receipts.
re: #275 mmmirele
Question: If I’m taking a red-eye flight that leaves at 11:59 pm, when should I get to the airport?
Probably day before yesterday.
re: #463 Charles Johnson
JFC this guy.
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Because we have a long tradition of valuing filial piety and other Confucian values.
To be clear: Mueller is not disputing that Cohen says Trump told him to lie. He’s disputing the line about corroborating evidence taken from Trump Org emails, texts, etc. Still a huge deal. But not a total refutation. In fact, Cohen’s 11/30 memo says Trump directed him to lie.
— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) January 19, 2019
re: #461 bd(it’s all true)
lol, I am loving seeing the wingnuts cite the Mueller spokesman as a purveyor of the truth.
the moron is retweeting exactly that:
I told you all that the BuzzFeed story was nonsense. pic.twitter.com/gbTXPjpVtk
— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) January 19, 2019
We called it. FAKE NEWS!
“More Buzzfeed B.S.” https://t.co/aOIPJJu0vH— Dan Bongino (@dbongino) January 19, 2019
https://t.co/n9HQUnQTxy
“Don Jr. opened the door, wearing a Yankee jersey. Without saying a word, his father slapped him across the face, knocking him to the floor in front of all of his classmates,” 🤣🤣🤣— JGonz69 (@jgonz69) January 19, 2019
Did we miss the meaning of this line in Cohen’s 11/30 sentence memo?
“The campaign finance and false statements allegations…arose from Michael’s fierce loyalty to Client-1. In each case, the conduct was intended to benefit Client-1, in accordance with Client-1’s directives.”— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) January 19, 2019
BREAKING: BuzzFeed News says “we are continuing to report and determine what the special counsel is disputing. We remain confident in the accuracy of our report.”
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) January 19, 2019
re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth
the moron is retweeting exactly that:
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Wait so now they believe Mueller’s people?
re: #473 VegasGolfer
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Why is it “kill baby Hitler” rather than “make Hitler’s mom fall in love with YOU” or “kidnap Hitler’s grandpa and strand him in Nepal just before he meets Hitler’s grandma”? People lacking in imagination should not have time machines.
— Will Wilkinson 🌐 (@willwilkinson) January 18, 2019
re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth
lol, Dan Oingo Boingo is not the sharpest piece of toilet paper on the roll
re: #478 gocart mozart
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Also did anyone expect a neat and creative alternative history take from Ben the Pickle Jar Shapiro? Come on.
Rare statement tonight from Mueller’s office: “BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate.”
— Laura Jarrett (@LauraAJarrett) January 19, 2019
This is very unusual. 🤔 https://t.co/UqN4q5d1wn
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) January 19, 2019
It seems the Special Counsels office is also adapting to Dems running House. https://t.co/k1rBCZ2ake
— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) January 19, 2019
Clarity. For two years, stories, whether accurate or not, had no political consequences b/c Ryan didn’t do anything. When House Dems start to take news stories as potential evidence to start essentially legal proceedings, Mueller’s office has an interest in correcting. https://t.co/6GYPhOVyQr
— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) January 19, 2019
Right now, Trump is trying to decide whether to bash Buzzfeed with Mueller’s statement, even though he has a dim crime-boss realization that it might backfire.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 19, 2019
I am glad that Mueller’s team corrected the record but Bongino’s gloating is going to look very premature.
Sure did. https://t.co/G6tB6fQZq1
— Kirsten Gillibrand (@SenGillibrand) January 19, 2019
re: #484 Charles Johnson
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Lots of good questions at today’s Benton County #2019townhall about the #TrumpShutdown as well as gun violence, college costs, climate change & mental health. Thanks Monroe HS tor hosting. #ListeningToTheFuture pic.twitter.com/EASInPoJvz
— Ron Wyden (@RonWyden) January 19, 2019
re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #432 Pawn of the Oppressor
Polaris (a Missile Command-style game) on the TRS-80 for me.
Later on, I had Missile Command on the Atari 7800. I remember it being spooky even then… Armageddon in video game form. O_o
Pong for me (on a television set).
Fuckit, here goes.
Folks, as I noted in my post form this morning, the BuzzFeed story conflicted with what SCO had Cohen allocute to under oath. That raised questions for me last night. https://t.co/Z7SpvQhQNv— emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 19, 2019
re: #459 Blind Frog Belly White
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re: #480 wrenchwench
Mueller is warming them up.
The way they are now accepting the SCO’s words and de facto validating the investigation is pretty funny. Turns out you can manipulate these people more easily than previously thought.
TBH the stories about Trump wanting to take PR money out and into Texas and Florida hurricane relief are just as horrifying and just as damning.
re: #494 Myron Falwell
The way they are now accepting the SCO’s words and de facto validating the investigation is pretty funny. Turns out you can manipulate these people more easily than previously thought.
I can’t wait for them to say they never really supported Trump.
The Delta Air Lines Foundation is honored to give the @natlparkservice a grant to reopen the Martin Luther King, Jr. National Historical Park on its most important weekend of the year.
Learn more: https://t.co/xExymO5HPv pic.twitter.com/K7ERqNSv00— Delta (@Delta) January 18, 2019
It’s come to this. https://t.co/YZC1r3WdIP
— Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF) January 18, 2019
re: #497 HappyWarrior
I can’t wait for them to say they never really supported Trump.
I didn’t think that would ever happen, but now… I dunno lolol
re: #499 Myron Falwell
I didn’t think that would ever happen, but now… I dunno lolol
After seeing how Bush went to “You have to support the President in time of war” to “Bush? He was a liberal!” I think you’ll see it.
Those fuckers!
“A person close to the White House called The Washington Post on Friday morning to alert a reporter to Pelosi’s travel plans, speaking on the condition of anonymity.”https://t.co/FCv5XMAt8v
— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) January 19, 2019
re: #501 Blind Frog Belly White
Those fuckers!
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“We will b protected by grt men & women of r military & law enforcmt & most importantly, we will b protected by God” pic.twitter.com/h9tSeXKXq9
— Sebastian Gorka DrG (@SebGorka) January 20, 2017
He’s retweeting a Nazi talking about God, on the day before his big announcement.
Probably nothing to worry about. It’s fine. It’s all fine. https://t.co/AcheQtjL1J— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 19, 2019
I commend Bob Mueller’s office for correcting the BuzzFeed false story that Pres. Trump encouraged Cohen to lie. I ask the press to take heed that their hysterical desire to destroy this President has gone too far. They pursued this without critical analysis all day. #FAKENEWS
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) January 19, 2019
And here we go. Suddenly Robert Mueller is a trusted source. So predictable. https://t.co/QliCIR5IGv
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 19, 2019
re: #484 Charles Johnson
Gee, that would be such a shame if Trump bashed the story and validated Muller.
re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth
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— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 19, 2019
re: #505 Charles Johnson
Being a Republican means consistency is totally irrelevant. Any time Mueller says something good for the Republican messaging of the day, he’s wonderful, and any time Mueller causes trouble for the Republican messaging of the day, he’s the Devil incarnate.
Easy peasy.
re: #504 Anymouse 🌹
Looks like Gorka took some of the letters from that tweet so he had enough to write Trump’s uber-racist statement of crushing defeat VICTROY!!!1!!!!
re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth
Well, that comment thread is quickly filling up with both left and right derp.
To be clear, Bob Bauer didn’t overlook an explicit, judicially enforceable command in Art. I. The Senate’s clear duty to conduct a trial after the House impeaches flows from the structure, history, function, and logic of the Impeachment Power, not from any mandating language. https://t.co/v4L1sdocVv
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) January 19, 2019
re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth
Stuff I’ve read in sci-fi books.
I mean, it’s obvious now, Trump is going to give a red-meat statement written by Gorka.
It will be so inflammatory, so vile, but that’s what it was always going to be. He has to spin it as such to make up for the obvious fact he lost and is taking a path that will not work for him.
Everyone but that 25-30% base is going to hate it and be repulsed by it, and that’s the point.
Spelling? Check. Insults? Check. Doesn’t understand what “campaign contribution” is under campaign finance law? Check. Doesn’t understand “conspiracy to commit a felony?” Check.
Nothing illigal to pay someone to shut up
— Deplorable (@smartinternet1) January 19, 2019
this is fine…
As of Thursday, there were 14 accidents that the NTSB would normally have investigated but couldn’t because of the shutdown. https://t.co/PBCjSqCDBb
— NBC News (@NBCNews) January 18, 2019
re: #485 HappyWarrior
I am glad that Mueller’s team corrected the record but Bongino’s gloating is going to look very premature.
Did they correct anything? Or, did they muddle it more?
They used very specific words none of which means the article was wrong.
They used “characterization” and “accurate” as the modifiers to the Buzzfeed story.
That tells me the color might be wrong in the room as depicted, but we are in the right room.
I think there is gamesmanship going on here.
Marcy Wheeler argues, and I agree, that the leak came from the SDNY. And, yes, the SC freaked about it.
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 19, 2019
re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth
If Mitch even tried to stonewall an impeachment trial — even in the case it has bipartisan support in both chambers — he’d fail. John Roberts wouldn’t take kindly to having his authority be usurped.
re: #519 ObserverArt
Did they correct anything? Or, did they muddle it more?
They used very specific words none of which means the article was wrong.
They used “characterization” and “accurate” as the modifiers to the Buzzfeed story.
That tells me the color might be wrong in the room as depicted, but we are in the right room.
I think there is gamesmanship going on here.
Yeah, I think you’re right. As I said though, Bongino looks like a fool for gloating IMO.
Imagine if Woodward and Bernstein’s methods of confirming information, depicted in All the President’s Men, we disclosed today. “Yeah, he waited ten seconds without hanging up.” “Who?” “My source.”
re: #522 HappyWarrior
Yeah, I think you’re right. As I said though, Bongino looks like a fool for gloating IMO.
Oingo Bongino looks like a fool consistently. Only more so this time.
just so I have this straight
the president, after demanding everything from Democrats and also demanding they negotiate, is now going to unveil a “deal” he worked out with his VP and failson-in-law
this is beyond stupid and a hilariously transparent admission of weakness— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) January 19, 2019
Tonight feels like the perfect night to watch “All the President’s Men” for the 200th time.
re: #524 Myron Falwell
Oingo Bongino looks like a fool consistently. Only more so this time.
Touche.
Rachel has a BuzzFeed editor on the phone right now.
take fucking seat old man
Now the DOJ must reveal the leakers of this false BuzzFeed story which the press and Democrats gleefully embraced. And maybe House Dems should wait to investigate until the Mueller report is filed. 4 have started already.There may be nothing to legitimately investigate.
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) January 19, 2019
re: #518 Backwoods_Sleuth
this is fine…
My wife and I had that discussion at lunch in town today (where next to us a bunch of lawyers from Scott’s Bluff County were complaining about “non-essential workers” even existing).
The demarcation of a “non-essential” worker is whether the worker is “non-essential” to maintain the government. That doesn’t mean the non-essential worker isn’t essential to the people. (I was kind of loud explaining that, also saying “I’m glad I didn’t get the chef’s salad since there are no food inspectors” to get the attention of one who was eating that.)
re: #529 Backwoods_Sleuth
take fucking seat old man
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Weren’t you the guy who fucking leaked for the NY field office? Go the fuck away, Rudy. Only Trump and his cult believe anything oyu have to say.
If you don’t think the brain-rot caused by 2+ years of nonstop Russia alarmism has inflicted incalculable damage on the journalism industry, and on society as a whole, I honestly don’t know what else to tell you at this point
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 19, 2019
re: #505 Charles Johnson
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Well, if Mueller is a trusted source then anything that is released in his report is trusted too.
Right Rudy?
This is all getting to be like a drop of cold water in a hot wok.
God Rudy is pathetic. Still butthurt that he never got to take on HRC. Here’s a little secret, Rudy. You would have lost because your overrated tenure of NYC’s mayor would have been exposed and seeing as this was pre 9.11, you wouldn’t be able to exploit 2000 dead people to for your campaign.
re: #528 Ace Rothstein
He sounds confident, but who knows. Interviews, messages and documents they claim. Hmmm.
re: #520 Backwoods_Sleuth
There are times when I think that some stories the media report on were disclosed at the wrong time, that they give away game plans. Mueller may be thinking that way, that the only way the report will truly be effective is to overwhelm the crap that will come out of the administration. A few things here and there gives them time to dismiss them. Plus, the leaks can lead to sources.
Wingers already trying to find a way to spin Ben Shapiro’s “baby Hitler” comment so they can make it part of the Gospel of Conservatism:
Leftists would be okay with killing baby Hitler and baby Ben Shapiro. Just like they’re okay with sex selective and health selective abortions and praise countries for having no autistic children, because they were all killed. But… ya know, @benshapiro is today’s Hitler y’all!
— Elisha (@ElishaKrauss) January 18, 2019
President Erdoğan receives U.S. Senator Graham https://t.co/KIuJotOWzp pic.twitter.com/xIGdOk7LJZ
— Turkish Presidency (@trpresidency) January 18, 2019
If Pelosi can’t fly, why can Graham. Why is he meeting with this ruthless dictator who set up his own coup to become a dictator.
Why meet with a man who’s preparing to murder thousands of Kurds.
And someone please wipe that stupid smile off his face. https://t.co/EsyccQWuS1— Harvey Bobrow (@Hbobrow1Hbobrow) January 18, 2019
re: #538 Anymouse 🌹
Wingers already trying to find a way to spin Ben Shapiro’s “baby Hitler” comment so they can make it part of the Gospel of Conservatism:
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No, Ben Shapiro isn’t today’s Hitler. I don’t know of anyone on the left who thinks that. A lot of us think he’s a dishonest gish galloping hack. I wouldn’t want to kill Ben as a baby. I just want him to stop being a condescending right wing douche who thinks Baby Hitler is actually a reasonable abortion discussion for its legality.
It can’t be half. Most Christians aren’t literalists, but the ones who are….damn. Your Noah description is enlightening.
— Pelosi46 (@25Trumpfire) January 19, 2019
https://t.co/SmjIz24tEy — Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 19, 2019
Tonight must be the FIRST TIME EVER that a development that is bad news for people who want to see Trump gone has inspired a tweet storm from Glenn Greenwald! /
re: #532 gocart mozart
Tracey never recovered from the Fatality that Maxine Waters laid on him, I see.
She needs to do it again, apparently.
re: #532 gocart mozart
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You’re right Michael. You are proof of what happens when far left bros like yourself hate the mainstream left so much that you’ll side with Russia and Trump over your own country.
re: #544 Myron Falwell
Tracey never recovered from the Fatality that Maxine Waters laid on him, I see.
She needs to do it again, apparently.
The Bro Left needs to get its ass kicked and the best way to do that is to make sure Bernie and Tulsi are total non factors.
re: #539 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Graham there to negotiate the safety of certain Kurds that worked for him, before they are all annihilated?
re: #542 Anymouse 🌹
When he’s not asleep, Ben Carson talks about how the pyramids were used for grain storage, it’s not that ridiculous a notion
In fact, if I would compare Ben Shapiro to anyone, it’s Bill Buckley. A smug self righteous faux intellectual who is a much more mediocre intellect than he or the people who stand by him will ever admit. Not stupid but that’s the problem with him. He’s an average intellect in a stream of extremely stupid people.
re: #532 gocart mozart
The brain rot caused by 50 years of uncritical acceptance of hard-core right wing propaganda by the mainstream media is a much more significant issue.
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