Friday Night Jazz Stunt Guitar: Julian Lage, “Tomorrow Is the Question”

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Julian Lage Trio performs “Tomorrow Is The Question” from Love Hurts, coming Feb 22 on Mack Avenue Records. Pre-order here: smarturl.it

Julian Lage: guitar
Dave King: drums
Jorge Roeder: bass

Director/DP/Editor: Alex Chaloff
Jib Operator: Brock Slagle
AC: Loki Michael
Gaffer: Kyle Copeland
PA: Joshua Sainz

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Written by Ornette Coleman

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1
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:25:32pm

Hilarious thread, nine tweets:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:25:52pm

Trump is furiously retweeting every criticism of “fake news” he can find.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:27:27pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹

Hilarious thread, nine tweets:

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I mean even if we assume they are prayer rugs. It’s not a crime to be a Muslim immigrant no matter what Donnie and his friend the dipshit rancher think.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:27:45pm

re: #2 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump is furiously retweeting every criticism of “fake news” he can find.

Of course he is. He’s a needy son of a bitch.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:29:26pm

re: #2 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump is furiously retweeting every criticism of “fake news” he can find.

lol, it’s not like he has anything else to do ////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:29:29pm
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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:30:09pm

The end of the fuse is near…..

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:31:15pm

NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION, BUZZFEED IS THE COLLUSION, ROBERT MUELLER SAYS SO! FAKE NEWS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:32:54pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

I mean even if we assume they are prayer rugs. It’s not a crime to be a Muslim immigrant no matter what Donnie and his friend the dipshit rancher think.

The Christian Y’all Qaeda want’s to make Islam illegal (along with every other religion and non-belief).

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:33:47pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION, BUZZFEED IS THE COLLUSION, ROBERT MUELLER SAYS SO! FAKE NEWS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

He’s probably thinking, “this strategy can’t backfire on me one bit, it’s foolproof”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:34:41pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

The Christian Y’all Qaeda want’s to make Islam illegal (along with every other religion and non-belief).

Of course they do. They can’t tho.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:36:16pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Of course they do. They can’t tho.

For now they can’t. They’ve already gotten the courts to declare corporations have religious rights.

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:37:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:37:27pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

I mean even if we assume they are prayer rugs. It’s not a crime to be a Muslim immigrant no matter what Donnie and his friend the dipshit rancher think.

Could be worse…they could be yoga mats.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:37:30pm

Why are these Fuckface Von Clownstick humping numbskulls so good at creating alternate realities?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:38:03pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹

For now they can’t. They’ve already gotten the courts to declare corporations have religious rights.

The whole Congress shall make no law I think would be a bridge too far for Roberts. Roberts is an asshole but not that kind.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:39:05pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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Why are these Fuckface Von Clownstick humping numbskulls so good at creating alternate realities?

Bomgino is such a Trump lackey.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:40:56pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:41:27pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

Trump Idiots ‘Debunk’ Michael Cohen Story By Shrieking HAW HAW BUZZFEED SUX! (I imagine you know which Website)

The Wall Street Journal. Obviously. /s

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:43:04pm

Some history.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:43:09pm

What muslim would carry a prayer rug from wherever they came from, pray on it 5 times a day only to abandon it at the border?
These people are beyond stupid.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:44:02pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

The whole Congress shall make no law I think would be a bridge too far for Roberts. Roberts is an asshole but not that kind.

Roberts won’t be there forever.

Redefine “Congress” to mean “the states can do whatever they want”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:44:10pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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Why are these Fuckface Von Clownstick humping numbskulls so good at creating alternate realities?

Facts don’t care about their feelings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:44:40pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:44:57pm

Quick Photoshop from an image in the previous thread.

The McCain Specter
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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:45:45pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Weren’t there Republicans that were also supposed to be going on that trip? I was trying to find a list.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:49:07pm

I’m watching Barrett-Jackson. I just saw an add for a “Libido Enhancer” and an old guy walking the beach with one of those old thyme surf boards….

And that a horrible yellow Corvette going across the block.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:49:36pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

Roberts won’t be there forever.

Redefine “Congress” to mean “the states can do whatever they want”

If a state ever tried to ban a religion, in my legal opinion it wouldn’t even make SCOTUS. And you’re right Roberts won’t but neither would those who would upheld.

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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:49:39pm

Finding Your Roots is a fascinating show. Binge-O-Rama

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Dave In Austin  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:49:51pm

$98k for a fucking banana…..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:50:02pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

Some history.

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Nice context.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:50:04pm

re: #21 VegasGolfer

This made me LOL

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:50:29pm

re: #25 ObserverArt

Quick Photoshop from an image in the previous thread.

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Graham there to negotiate the safety of certain Kurds that worked for him, before they are all annihilated?

Repost, this is inhuman

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:51:20pm

re: #30 Dave In Austin

$98k for a fucking banana…..

Welcome to Venezuela.

//

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:51:31pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

Some history.

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“…the (Nixon) White House celebrates the error, calling into question every story Woodward and Bernstein wrote for the Post”

Huh.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:51:55pm

re: #29 plansbandc

Finding Your Roots is a fascinating show. Binge-O-Rama

You know? It may shock some but I still haven’t watched any yet. I just talked with my third cousin. We’re finding out that our great grandfather’s who were brothers, their sister was a great aunt on both her mom and dads side. No that doesn’t mean her folks were cousins not by blood anyhow.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:52:17pm

re: #35 Myron Falwell

“…the (Nixon) White House celebrates the error, calling into question every story Woodward and Bernstein wrote for the Post”

Huh.

Fucking Dole

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bratwurst  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:55:26pm

A notorious white nationalist podcaster with a history of instigating harassment campaigns and threats of violence against reporters is in fact a journalist himself, Hatewatch has learned.

A 49-year-old man named Norman Asa Garrison III, who has written under the byline Trey Garrison for publications like The Dallas Morning News, D Magazine and Reason

There must be some mistake! I mean Reason would never associate with white nationalists and their ilk.

Oh wait. Nevermind.

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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:55:54pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

I am more than a little interested in learning about my families roots. My aunt did a lot of research on my mother’s side, but no one has done any work on my father’s side.

Too bad we aren’t famous, so we could get the works on a TV show. (No, not really too bad.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:56:00pm

re: #26 Belafon

Weren’t there Republicans that were also supposed to be going on that trip? I was trying to find a list.

The Foreign Affairs Chair and Armed Forces Chair were part of the trip. As is customary, the ranking members of the minority party are always included on such trips.

Because the House Speaker was going, it would be customary for the minority leader to also go.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:56:44pm

Help!

I am finding myself on HBO with Bill Maher coming on next and my wine glass is closer to me than the remote control……wish me luck.

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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:57:30pm

re: #41 bd(it’s all true)

I know what I would do… :D

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EPR-radar  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:57:58pm

re: #41 bd(it’s all true)

Help!

I am finding myself on HBO with Bill Maher coming on next and my wine glass is closer to me than the remote control……wish me luck.

Reach for the remote, turn the TV off, enjoy the wine in peace. That will be 5 cents.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:58:14pm

re: #42 plansbandc

I know what I would do… :D

I am drinking as fast as I can!

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:58:52pm

re: #43 EPR-radar

Reach for the remote, turn the TV off, enjoy the wine in peace. That will be 5 cents.

but, but, but!

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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:59:30pm

re: #44 bd(it’s all true)

This is exactly the right thing to do. Well done.

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:59:32pm
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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 6:59:42pm

re: #38 bratwurst

Dallas Morning News now has a post up about him: dallasnews.com

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:00:45pm

re: #48 Belafon

Dallas Morning News now has a post up about him: dallasnews.com

“Trey Garrison came to us as a libertarian writer expressing carefully couched opinions about everything from diversity to rural life to running marathons,” said Mike Wilson, editor of The News. “His last op-ed for us ran almost nine years ago. Hatewatch has done good work exposing his overtly racist and misogynistic views. We haven’t missed him and will never have him back.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:01:48pm

re: #39 plansbandc

I am more than a little interested in learning about my families roots. My aunt did a lot of research on my mother’s side, but no one has done any work on my father’s side.

Too bad we aren’t famous, so we could get the works on a TV show. (No, not really too bad.)

Yeah there’s a lot of stuff I’d love to find.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:02:09pm

(Sorry to pull pieces out) Holy shit:

During the fatal June 2018 shooting at the Capital Gazette newspaper in Annapolis, Md., Garrison replied to one reporter’s tweeted plea for help with a meme that said, simply, “No,” and later asked whether “it’s only journalists or any real people” who got hurt, Hatewatch reported.

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gocart mozart  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:03:29pm

Rosenberg received his B.A. from Tufts University, his M.P.P. from Harvard University and his J.D. from the University of Virginia. He was hired out of law school through the U.S Attorney General’s Honors Program and has served in numerous positions throughout the Department of Justice, including as Trial Attorney for the Tax Division’s Criminal Enforcement Section (1990-94), Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia (1994-2000), Counsel to the Director of the FBI (2002-03), Counselor to the Attorney General (2003-04), and Chief of Staff to the Deputy Attorney General (2004-05). Rosenberg has also spent time working in private practice as Counsel at Hunton & Williams (2000-02), and as a partner at Hogan Lovells US LLP (2008-13).[2]

Rosenberg was presidentially appointed and unanimously confirmed as the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, from 2006 through 2008, and appointed by the Attorney General to serve as the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Texas, from 2005 through 2006.[2][3] Rosenberg served as Chief of Staff to the Director of the FBI from 2013 to 2015. In this role, he worked closely with Director James Comey and other senior FBI officials on counterterrorism, intelligence, cyber and criminal investigative issues, including with international, federal, state and local law enforcement partner

en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:03:32pm

Fuck Bill Maher. When does John Oliver come back?

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:03:32pm

Michael Isikoff on Rachel was shooting the Buzzfeed story up pretty good. He’s upset with the story and thinks it hurts Mueller which is why Mueller’s people worded their statement as they did.

And he said we should have just stuck with what Mueller already got Cohen to admit to as far as lying about helping Trump, but more as a lackey buddy than a direction.

So…not looking good on the initial story.

Did someone float some BS Buzzfeeds way to get them to bite? Then use it to make everyone look bad. Anyone smell anything kind of rotten?

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:05:27pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

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en.wikipedia.org

Armando has enough of a stick in his ass that I tend to believe him

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:06:45pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

Fuck Bill Maher. When does John Oliver come back?

February 17th

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:07:31pm

Dude, it’s real!

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:07:54pm

re: #56 Single-handed sailor

February 17th

That’s like, next month!

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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:10:37pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

I think he’s garbage.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:11:44pm
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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:14:41pm

Kasich hinting around at running as an independent.

Both parties broken, MLK, Women’s suffrage, environment, blah, blah, blah……..

HE CARES! NOW!

Screw him.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:16:52pm
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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:17:44pm

Good for Maher to Kasich,

We don’t need new ideas, we already have the answers to these really old questions.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:18:59pm

re: #61 bd(it’s all true)

Kasich hinting around at running as an independent.

Both parties broken, MLK, Women’s suffrage, environment, blah, blah, blah……..

HE CARES! NOW!

Screw him.

Kasich is probably going to do it. He wouldn’t be on a show like Maher’s without doing a bit of both sides and some independent thinking to play to his audience. Gotta watch Kasich. He is real good at selling something that makes sense until he get’s in office and you read the details.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:19:42pm

Kasich once had a TV show on Fox News. nuff said

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bratwurst  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:19:55pm

re: #49 Belafon

Dallas Morning News now has a post up about him: dallasnews.com

“Trey Garrison came to us as a libertarian writer expressing carefully couched opinions about everything from diversity to rural life to running marathons,”

Huh, it’s almost like libertarians with opinions about “diversity” should set off alarm bells for editors or something.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:19:57pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:20:48pm

Even if they did find prayer rugs, so fucking what?

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:22:11pm

Speaking of libertarianism…thread.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:22:31pm

re: #64 ObserverArt

Kasich is probably going to do it. He wouldn’t be on a show like Maher’s without doing a bit of both sides and some independent thinking to play to his audience. Gotta watch Kasich. He is real good at selling something that makes sense until he get’s in office and you read the details.

His bothsiderism is nauseating. Bill called him on him saying that one party being “slightly” more crazy than the other an Kasich crawfished like an eel.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:23:17pm

Kasich is Pence who has been on dates.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:24:16pm

bah dum tss

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gocart mozart  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:25:21pm
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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:25:27pm

Maher is such a dudebro tool

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:25:48pm

So wait, I’m confused.

Did Buzzfeed seriously fuck up their story and undermine Mueller?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:26:11pm

re: #68 Ace Rothstein

Rest assured it was made up bs from the bottom up.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:27:27pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

Kasich once had a TV show on Fox News. nuff said

I think I heard he is going to be doing something at CNN.

Anyone surprised?

He was on FOX when he was a reasonable Republican.

Now he can use CNN to bothsides it and show his deep independent streak that has always made him different from every other politician and how he learned it from his father a common man from McKees Rocks PA.

It all sounds so good to Joe Public. Ugh.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:27:44pm

He’s gleefully whipping up the mouth breathers.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:28:18pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

So wait, I’m confused.

Did Buzzfeed seriously fuck up their story and undermine Mueller?

Fucking up their story wouldn’t actually cause Meuller problems, just Buzzfeed. OTOH, getting information that’s close to what Mueller has might be what caused the response.

Think about how many times there have been reports about Mueller almost being done, or not investigating Trump, that haven’t gotten a response.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:28:53pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:31:06pm

Jacob Wohl is a fascist nazi.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:31:55pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

Jacob Wohl is a fascist nazi.

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Finally, a voice of reason.

//

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:32:30pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

Jacob Wohl is a fascist nazi.

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He really is. He loves Putin too. He’s a fascist little pig.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:32:32pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

So wait, I’m confused.

Did Buzzfeed seriously fuck up their story and undermine Mueller?

The more you hear the more it sounds like it’s the smoke, not the fire first thought. A lot of people keep saying there is truth at the core.

And Buzzfeed is sticking to their guns.

I’m going with confusion. Because I am.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:32:35pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

Roberts won’t be there forever.

Redefine “Congress” to mean “the states can do whatever they want”

Except the 1st Amendment has been incorporated against the states, so the states can’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:33:06pm

The American people want to shut down Buzzfeed? Haha. Yeah okay kid.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:33:24pm

re: #85 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Except the 1st Amendment has been incorporated against the states, so the states can’t.

That’s correct.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:33:33pm

Don’t ever change Bill!

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:33:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:34:01pm

re: #51 Belafon

(Sorry to pull pieces out) Holy shit:

That was reported at the time, but was mostly lost in the media scrum of the day.

SPLC notes that shortly after they confirmed who he was, he deleted all his social media accounts they are aware of.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:35:22pm

re: #85 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Except the 1st Amendment has been incorporated against the states, so the states can’t.

That really depends on the judges, doesn’t it? AgGag laws stand, money is speech, corporations can tell women and men they can’t get contraception on their company policies because of the corporate owner’s religion.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:35:45pm

re: #88 bd(it’s all true)

Don’t ever change Bill!

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I can’t hear you Bill. Trump’s ratings are historic! -Ally low

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:36:27pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:37:28pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:38:16pm

Just a hunch, but I have a feeling a lot of these morons are gonna be eating crow sooner than later.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:38:56pm

re: #93 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I hope someone is keeping track of these moronic statements to quote them when a Democrat takes the oval office.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:39:00pm

re: #94 MsJ

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I thought we liked the Kremlin, Lou.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:39:56pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

That really depends on the judges, doesn’t it? AgGag laws stand, money is speech, corporations can tell women and men they can’t get contraception on their company policies because of the corporate owner’s religion.

You do need some legal jurisprudence here though other than your and I get it completely bias against right wing judges.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:40:08pm
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jaunte  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:42:42pm

re: #95 Myron Falwell

Just a hunch, but I have a feeling a lot of these morons are gonna be eating crow sooner than later.

I think they’ll just change the rules and argue that (1) they won, or (2) it doesn’t matter.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:42:43pm

re: #99 Belafon

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Mueller is a Republican as was Comey. Wanna try again, you feckless old turtle shit?

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:42:47pm

From the Department of What the Fuck:

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sagehen  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:43:44pm

re: #62 Single-handed sailor

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:43:45pm

re: #100 jaunte

I think they’ll just change the rules and argue that (1) they won, or (2) it doesn’t matter.

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Stick to being really bad at being funny Greg. You all impeached Clinton over Monica which came about from Whitewater. You are full of shit.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:44:39pm

Ann Coulter on Bill Maher next week.

Oy….

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:44:50pm

re: #100 jaunte

I think they’ll just change the rules and argue that (1) they won, or (2) it doesn’t matter.

They have no self-awareness, so that’s a given.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:46:09pm

re: #105 bd(it’s all true)

Ann Coulter on Bill Maher next week.

Oy….

They used to fuck, maybe still do from time to time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:46:54pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

You do need some legal jurisprudence here though other than your and I get it completely bias against right wing judges.

The wall of separation of church and state isn’t gong to come down with a nuke. It will come down, chip by chip, a little at a time.

Numerous public schools are already teaching the Bible as fact, with several lawsuits going. Every time one is knocked down, another comes up.

Schools teaching abstinence-only education (an explicitly Christian viewpoint) have had their teaching upheld.

Roe v Wade is having similar problems. Originally abortion was legal until the end of the second trimester, that keeps getting chipped away by states, along with continued attempts to define a fertilised egg as a person. Women have gone to jail over so-called foetal homicide laws.

Tennessee has an “official Bible.” Oklahoma’s and Arkansas’s Ten Commandments monuments remain on the capital grounds despite court challenges (and people running them over).

The history of the USA all the way back to the colonies is replete with religions trying to assert supremacy over government, usually with the aid of elected officials.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:46:59pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

They used to fuck, maybe still do from time to time.

they fuck us all now…..

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:47:26pm

re: #99 Belafon

Mitch has to spin his loss as a win. The Democrats run rings around his sorry ass, so of course he’s gonna whine like the old racist he is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:48:06pm

re: #100 jaunte

“It doesn’t matter if the story is true or not. Because it was originally about collision & it’s not even about that anymore”

Apparently Greg Guttfeld seems to think this is about a hit and run.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:49:10pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

Apparently Greg Guttfeld seems to think this is about a hit and run.

modified for accuracy

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Mattand  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:49:32pm

re: #105 bd(it’s all true)

Ann Coulter on Bill Maher next week.

Oy….

Exhibit C on why I stopped watching/listening to Maher.

Exhibits A and B are his Islamophobia and anti-vaccine bullshit.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:49:45pm

I’m still trying to find out what happened to the guy who decided to interrupt a meeting by whining about Gillette, but while I’m in the person’s thread, here’s a scorecard on the top progressive Senators (it’s from a series of threads trashing Susan Sarandon who has seen fit to go after Kamala Harris):

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:49:52pm

re: #102 Belafon

From the Department of What the Fuck:

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This is the future conservatives want.

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gocart mozart  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:51:07pm

Youtube Video

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:51:45pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:53:29pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

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Until Corsi gets thrown in the ol’ big house, these are words from a shitty hate-filled actor.

But I’d love to see someone like Alex Jones squirm at night, worrying that the jig is up.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:55:38pm

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

The wall of separation of church and state isn’t gong to come down with a nuke. It will come down, chip by chip, a little at a time.

Numerous public schools are already teaching the Bible as fact, with several lawsuits going. Every time one is knocked down, another comes up.

Schools teaching abstinence-only education (an explicitly Christian viewpoint) have had their teaching upheld.

Roe v Wade is having similar problems. Originally abortion was legal until the end of the second trimester, that keeps getting chipped away by states, along with continued attempts to define a fertilised egg as a person. Women have gone to jail over so-called foetal homicide laws.

Tennessee has an “official Bible.” Oklahoma’s and Arkansas’s Ten Commandments monuments remain on the capital grounds despite court challenges (and people running them over).

The history of the USA all the way back to the colonies is replete with religions trying to assert supremacy over government, usually with the aid of elected officials.

Again give me some legal jurisprudence showing that they’d ban a religion entirely. I am seeing evidence of favoring Christianity but that’s different than allowing states to outright ban a religion.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:56:14pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

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Always a pathetic little drama queen who wants to be a martyr.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:57:18pm

re: #113 Mattand

Exhibit C on why I stopped watching/listening to Maher.

Exhibits A and B are his Islamophobia and anti-vaccine bullshit.

Afuckingmen dude. He’s a sexist bigot kook who always goes out of his way to defend his former lay Coulter.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:57:23pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:58:04pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

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Uh, no Alex.

The people who are going to shut your worthless ass down are the Sandy Hook parents.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 7:58:49pm

re: #114 Belafon

I’m still trying to find out what happened to the guy who decided to interrupt a meeting by whining about Gillette, but while I’m in the person’s thread, here’s a scorecard on the top progressive Senators (it’s from a series of threads trashing Susan Sarandon who has seen fit to go after Kamala Harris):

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Sarandon is such a hack and another of Mahers favorites.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:00:36pm

Wait they’re complaining that Harris was a prosecutor? JFC guys.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:01:45pm

re: #122 Belafon

I finally watched that ad. It’s saying “men, be better people.” No wonder wingnuts are all up in arms.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:01:49pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Wait they’re complaining that Harris was a prosecutor? JFC guys.

It’s the old Republican play of turning a strength into a weakness.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:02:06pm

re: #123 Joe Bacon 🌹

Uh, no Alex.

The people who are going to shut your worthless ass down are the Sandy Hook parents.

Both actually can happen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:02:23pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Sarandon is such a hack and another of Mahers favorites.

Remember who Susie Spotless backed to put Republicans in the White House

1980—Barry Commoner of the Citizens Party
2000—Nader
2016—General Flynn’s Moscow Dinner Date

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:02:48pm

re: #127 Belafon

It’s the old Republican play of turning a strength into a weakness.

Totally. I could never be one myself but prosecutors play a vital role in any justice system.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:02:55pm

A piece of missing information about the Democratic freshmen hunting McConnell:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:03:08pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Again give me some legal jurisprudence showing that they’d ban a religion entirely. I am seeing evidence of favoring Christianity but that’s different than allowing states to outright ban a religion.

You may recall a discussion I had here with a Muslim who Mr. Johnson has now removed. He was concerned about a mosque in North Platte being unable to expand its parking lot on its own land due to interference by the city council.

So I went researching that for him, and over four years the city council tried to use zoning laws to prevent the mosque from expanding the lot. Locals were concerned about traffic (read Muslims).

It was a harassment campaign against the mosque which ended in favour of the mosque, but took four years to resolve. Federal law is clear you cannot use zoning laws against any house of worship, and the city government simply did not care.

Yes they lost. They cost the mosque and the taxpayers millions between them, simply to enforce a restriction on their parking lot (and by extension their religion).

The point of all these “religious freedom” cases is not that they all seem fruitless. The point is harassment, and the brass ring that one gets through.

I notice you haven’t addressed the idea that corporations have religions they can impose on their workers yet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:03:12pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

Remember who Susie Spotless backed to put Republicans in the White House

1980—Barry Commoner of the Citizens Party
2000—Nader
2016—General Flynn’s Moscow Dinner Date

Such great judgment she has.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:03:44pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Totally. I could never be one myself but prosecutors play a vital role in any justice system.

It’s the prosecutors here in Dallas that are holding police responsible.

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:03:52pm

re: #118 Myron Falwell

Until Corsi gets thrown in the ol’ big house, these are words from a shitty hate-filled actor.

But I’d love to see someone like Alex Jones squirm at night, worrying that the jig is up.

Not sure who I want imprisoned more, Jones or Stone.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:04:43pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

You may recall a discussion I had here with a Muslim who Mr. Johnson has now removed. He was concerned about a mosque in North Platte being unable to expand its parking lot on its own land due to interference by the city council.

So I went researching that for him, and over four years the city council tried to use zoning laws to prevent the mosque from expanding the lot. Locals were concerned about traffic (read Muslims).

It was a harassment campaign against the mosque which ended in favour of the mosque, but took four years to resolve. Federal law is clear you cannot use zoning laws against any house of worship, and the city government simply did not care.

Yes they lost. They cost the mosque and the taxpayers millions between them, simply to enforce a restriction on their parking lot (and by extension their religion).

The point of all these “religious freedom” cases is not that they all seem fruitless. The point is harassment, and the brass ring that one gets through.

I notice you haven’t addressed the idea that corporations have religions they can impose on their workers yet.

Fair enough but corporations aren’t states. I’m just giving you my perspective as someone who was worked in law. All this said, it’s why we need better judges.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:04:51pm

re: #135 MsJ

Not sure who I want imprisoned more, Jones or Stone.

Jones.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:05:05pm

re: #134 Belafon

It’s the prosecutors here in Dallas that are holding police responsible.

Exactly.

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:05:25pm

re: #122 Belafon

So, he’s Jayne from Firefly after Mal almost dumped him out of the airlock.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:05:37pm

re: #135 MsJ

Not sure who I want imprisoned more, Jones or Stone.

Why not both? And reopen Alcatraz just for them?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:06:05pm

re: #140 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why not both? And reopen Alcatraz just for them?

ADA Florence is worse.

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gocart mozart  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:06:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:07:08pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

As I noted above, the wall of separation will not come down with a nuke. It will come down one chip at a time.

In the end, you have freedom of religion, but good luck trying to practise it.

Abstinence-only sex ed is explicitly a religious position which has been upheld by the courts. It has no scientific, secular, or statistical basis in fact. That wasn’t addressed either.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:07:48pm

re: #135 MsJ

Not sure who I want imprisoned more, Jones or Stone.

It’s almost a toss-up, they are both very awful people who did a lot of ratfucking on this alone, let alone their legacy of ratfucking overall.

Jones, Stone and Corsi at once… I’d love that prospect so much.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:08:06pm

A devotee of Unclear On The Concept speaks up:

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:08:54pm

Oops. Reload for the full exchange.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:10:07pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

So wait, I’m confused.

Did Buzzfeed seriously fuck up their story and undermine Mueller?

Mueller’s statement is too vaguely worded to know.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:10:43pm

Wrong. People always deserve respect, unless shown unworthy. Ideas (including religion) never deserve respect, unless shown to be true.

Any religion worth its faith should be able to withstand any criticism.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:12:23pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

As I noted above, the wall of separation will not come down with a nuke. It will come down one chip at a time.

In the end, you have freedom of religion, but good luck trying to practise it.

Abstinence-only sex ed is explicitly a religious position which has been upheld by the courts. It has no scientific, secular, or statistical basis in fact. That wasn’t addressed either.

Okay. Fair enough but I’m saying this. They will need jurisprudence to do it. As for absistence only. I assume they’re using common law to upheld its legality. I think A only is bullshit but I don’t see a legal way to prohibit it. The way I see is to get comprehensive sex implemented through the legislature and ballot box and cut me some slack. It’s 11 here and I’ve been up since 7. I can’t address everything instantly. I’m just giving you my perspective on how this all goes down as someone who has worked in law and studied the courts. We don’t disagree that it could happen but I think we can prevent it too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:13:26pm

re: #145 jaunte

A devotee of Unclear On The Concept speaks up:

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How many Muslims only schools are there in this country? The Muslims I knew growing up were fine with religious pluralism. The conservative Christians were nkt.

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sagehen  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:13:43pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Wait they’re complaining that Harris was a prosecutor? JFC guys.

The NFL player’s association, in last year’s contract negotiations, got the league to cough up a bunch of money for the players to do political advocacy. The players spent 2018, instead of endorsing candidates for governor or senator, got involved in DA races in their cities.

philanthropyplaymakers.com

this forum was one in a series hosted in five different cities across the U.S. by members of the Players Coalition. The local district attorney races in 2018 have been a focal point for NFL players, since DAs control who is charged with crimes and how the person is punished.

According to Jenny Vrentas, “the three Patriots spent a week brainstorming questions about mass incarceration, the juvenile system, immigration and police-community relations. They encouraged the audience members to educate themselves and cast their vote—‘helping communities understand how they can help themselves,’ McCourty said.

It’s a really fucking smart approach. When I saw one of the players talking about it on the Daily Show, I slapped myself for not thinking of it first.

Malcolm Jenkins - Leading the Philadelphia Eagles | The Daily Show

nbcphiladelphia.com

Malcolm Jenkins, inspired by Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner’s election victory last year, is expanding his activism to district attorney races in California.

The star safety on the Super Bowl-champion Eagles told NBC10 in an interview that his appearance moderating public discussions in Sacramento Thursday and in Oakland Friday are the initial stops of what will become a prolonged effort to highlight how important district attorneys are to criminal justice reform.

“Everyone in this reform battle is realizing this is a place where we can quickly see change,” Jenkins said by phone from Oakland. “In California, DAs are being elected in Oakland, San Diego and Sacramento. This is an opportunity to start here and push that reform across the country. We’ve seen the fruits of that in Philadelphia.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:14:00pm

Faith isn’t a get out of jail free card.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:15:15pm

re: #151 sagehen

The NFL player’s association, in last year’s contract negotiations, got the league to cough up a bunch of money for the players to do political advocacy. The players spent 2018, instead of endorsing candidates for governor or senator, got involved in DA races in their cities.

philanthropyplaymakers.com

It’s a really fucking smart approach. When I saw one of the players talking about it on the Daily Show, I slapped myself for not thinking of it first.

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Your prosecutor matters so much. Most of the best challenges I’ve read have actually been in primaries as in Philly.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:16:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:17:10pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

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We could use him right now.

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ipsos  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:18:07pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

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That “ten years later” FB comparison didn’t do Abe any favors by the time 1871 rolled around…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:18:27pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

thinking to himself, “the fuck happened to the party that supposedly began with me?”

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Belafon  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:18:40pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

We could use him right now.

I was thinking, I wonder if what we’re going through right now is what America would have felt like had a Democrat won the election.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:20:01pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

That really depends on the judges, doesn’t it? AgGag laws stand, money is speech, corporations can tell women and men they can’t get contraception on their company policies because of the corporate owner’s religion.

All of that is true, but actually banning a religion goes way, way over the red line. There isn’t a single Justice on SCOTUS who would vote for that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:20:48pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Fair enough. I’ll be hitting the rack soon myself.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:21:01pm

re: #158 Belafon

I was thinking, I wonder if what we’re going through right now is what America would have felt like had a Democrat won the election.

That’s a better what if than Baby Hitler. Depends which Democrat you’re talking about btw. Douglas would have been bad but Breckinridge would have been epically bad.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:21:10pm

re: #94 MsJ

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Projection.

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:21:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:22:13pm

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹

Fair enough. I’ll be hitting the rack soon myself.

Thanks. Not trying to school ya. I just think legally and there are many factors that go into decisions.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:22:18pm

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:23:33pm

re: #156 ipsos

That “ten years later” FB comparison didn’t do Abe any favors by the time 1871 rolled around…

That Facebook 10 Year Challenge is a way for them to collect your biometric data.

Don’t do it.

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jaunte  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:25:39pm

re: #166 MsJ

In line with what a lot of indigenous tribes thought about cameras, online technology is ultimately what will steal our souls.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:26:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:27:46pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

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A classic

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Jay C  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:30:37pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

That’s a better what if than Baby Hitler. Depends which Democrat you’re talking about btw. Douglas would have been bad but Breckinridge would have been epically bad.

True. The Civil War would have probably happened anyway. Only it would probably have been the North that seceded…

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ckkatz  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:33:50pm

My takeaway from the SCO denial based upon discussion on Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell -

1. They did not deny the core of the argument that Trump in some way had prior knowledge and likely encouraged Cohen to lie to Congress. But better source is the SCO charging documents on Cohen.

2. They did appear to deny that the Buzzfeed descriptions of the evidence held by the SCO on Trump’s guilt are accurate.

(Ronnen Farrow seemed to imply something similar, iirc. He dropped his work on this storyline, because some of the details presented by the Buzzfeed story were denied emphatically by one of his sources.)

3. Possible SCO agenda -
a. They do not have the evidence for “Beyond a reasonable doubt”
b. They did not want to tip their hand on future prosecutions.
c. They are concerned that this might start an Impeach Trump movement prematurely.
d. The 22 hour delay might have been due to identifying the leaks, verifying that the leaks did not come from their office, and (I would guess are) probably taking actions against the leakers..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:34:15pm

re: #170 Jay C

True. The Civil War would have probably happened anyway. Only it would probably have been the North that seceded…

The question is how does the North do? Lincoln was a brilliant organizer of men.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:34:51pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

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Boy he aged a lot the 4 years he was in office.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:37:50pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

As I noted above, the wall of separation will not come down with a nuke. It will come down one chip at a time.

In the end, you have freedom of religion, but good luck trying to practise it.

Abstinence-only sex ed is explicitly a religious position which has been upheld by the courts. It has no scientific, secular, or statistical basis in fact. That wasn’t addressed either.

I appreciate your take, however you can argue that the surest way to avoid stds and unwanted pregnancy is by abstinence without invoking any religion, and the state only needs that much of a rational basis to affirm it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:38:51pm

re: #173 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Boy he aged a lot the 4 years he was in office.

The war really effected him hard. His brother in laws were in the CSA and his favorite son- I know that sounds wrong died in the middle of it. I wish he could have lived so we could hear his voice just like I wish there were photos of the founders.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:39:26pm

re: #174 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I appreciate your take, however you can argue that the surest way to avoid stds and unwanted pregnancy is by abstinence without invoking any religion, and the state only needs that much of a rational basis to affirm it.

Common law, yes. I agree A only is bs but it’s not unlawful.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:40:04pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

Jacob Wohl is a fascist nazi.

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Yeah, I’m sure a whole bunch of “American people” gave him a call and expressed their desire for the government to do that. Maybe most of the voices in his head said that, but they lie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:41:44pm

re: #177 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, I’m sure a whole bunch of “American people” gave him a call and expressed their desire for the government to do that. Maybe most of the voices in his head said that, but they lie.

I mean Buzzfeed is annoying because I can only read so many 90’s nostalgia listicles but their journalism while not great is pretty decent.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:43:16pm

re: #100 jaunte

I think they’ll just change the rules and argue that (1) they won, or (2) it doesn’t matter.

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And Whitewater was about a financial deal, until it wasn’t.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:45:36pm
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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:46:07pm

re: #177 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, I’m sure a whole bunch of “American people” gave him a call and expressed their desire for the government to do that. Maybe most of the voices in his head said that, but they lie.

Hipster coffee shop.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:47:30pm

re: #181 MsJ

Hipster coffee shop.

My hipster barista told me Jacob Wohl eats poo.

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ckkatz  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:48:15pm

Still listening to Thomas Benjamin Wild Esq’s “I’ve No More F***s To Give!” from last thread. On a banjolele no less. What a hoot!

Thank you Ms W!

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 8:49:56pm
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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:02:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:03:14pm

re: #174 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I appreciate your take, however you can argue that the surest way to avoid stds and unwanted pregnancy is by abstinence without invoking any religion, and the state only needs that much of a rational basis to affirm it.

You can argue it, but the statistics don’t bear that out. The most dramatic drop in teen abortion and STDs was shown in Colorado when comprehensive sex education combined with contraception was promoted (until wingnuts got the programme suspended).

No state with abstinance-only sex ed scores better than any state with comprehensive sex-ed

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:04:41pm

Exercise time in China does not have to be boring.

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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:05:44pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:07:13pm

lol I could go for this casting call

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:09:24pm

re: #189 Myron Falwell

lol I could go for this casting call

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Peters got the director ideas all wrong. The correct answer is Joel and Ethan Coen. Crowe for Bannon and Duvall for Rudy are great tho.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:10:01pm

After shuffle dancing, we can eat some generously buttered noodles, sprinkled with just a quarter cup of parsley for color and freshness, which are the perfect blank canvas for just about any stew or braise.

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plansbandc  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:10:07pm
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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:11:37pm

re: #187 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Exercise time in China does not have to be boring.

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If they’d have fine that when I was in school is probably be 40 pounds lighter now!

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:13:48pm

re: #191 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

After shuffle dancing, we can eat some generously buttered noodles, sprinkled with just a quarter cup of parsley for color and freshness, which are the perfect blank canvas for just about any stew or braise.

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The responses. 😂😂😂😂

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:16:52pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:19:03pm

re: #195 MsJ

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hahahahaha Kris is a real-life Lionel Hutz

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:20:32pm

re: #196 Myron Falwell

hahahahaha Kris is a real-life Lionel Hutz

That’s unfair to Hutz.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:20:55pm

re: #194 MsJ

The responses. 😂😂😂😂

Inorite?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:24:46pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

That’s unfair to Hutz.

true, at least Hutz is upfront about his “No, Money Down!” policy

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Myron Falwell  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:25:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:27:21pm

re: #200 Myron Falwell

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I understood his argument. It’s just a stupid one.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:29:22pm

re: #181 MsJ

Hipster coffee shop.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:32:22pm

re: #202 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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I dunno it’s been done before already by Hitler.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:38:07pm

I think hipster Hitler I think Dick Shawn from The Producers.

(I don’t know who they put in his part in the remake, and please don’t tell me….)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:39:42pm

American anchor for Iranian TV is arrested on visit to US (caution for autoplay video with crappy music, goes to Yahoo News, more at the link):

A prominent American anchorwoman on Iranian state television has been arrested by the FBI during a visit to the U.S., the broadcaster reported Wednesday, and her son said she was being held in a prison, apparently as a material witness.

Marzieh Hashemi, who worked for the network’s English-language service, was detained in St. Louis, where she had filmed a Black Lives Matter documentary after visiting relatives in the New Orleans area. She was then taken to Washington, according to her elder son, Hossein Hashemi.

The FBI said in an email that it had no comment on the arrest of the woman who was born Melanie Franklin in New Orleans and has worked for Iran’s state television network for 25 years.

Hossein Hashemi said his mother lives in Tehran and comes back to this country about once a year to see her family, usually scheduling documentary work somewhere in the U.S. as well.

“We still have no idea what’s going on,” said Hashemi, a research fellow at the University of Colorado who was interviewed by phone from Washington. He also said he and his siblings had been subpoenaed to appear before a grand jury.

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ckkatz  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:40:02pm

And, another “Hold my beer” moment, brought to you from the Great State of Virginia:

Virginia man uses flamethrower to clear driveway of snow

wric.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:40:11pm

re: #204 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think hipster Hitler I think Dick Shawn from The Producers.

(I don’t know who they put in his part in the remake, and please don’t tell me….)

There was no LSD in the Producers musical.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:47:13pm

re: #207 Joe Bacon 🌹

There was no LSD in the Producers musical.

Which is why the original is better. Dick Shawn was hilarious.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:47:58pm

Trump’s shutdown has ripple effects.

Federal Contractors lose $200 million every week. And many of them will soon have to shut down.

Note—in the past, Contractors were stiffed and didn’t get back pay.

washingtonpost.com

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:55:11pm
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piratedan  Jan 18, 2019 • 9:57:38pm

re: #171 ckkatz

I guess for me it seems the devil is in the details on the Buzzfeed story, so if we parse the special council’s comment on the story, they don’t say that the story is inaccurate, but rather their investigation is showing that the sources referenced in the buzzfeed story are not accurate, not that essence of the story isn’t true, just that their sourcing doesn’t jibe with the sources that the SCO is referencing or that the SCO also has those sources that Buzzfeed is referring to and the context of what is being referenced isn’t accurate.

The SCO is NOT saying that Cohen wasn’t instructed by Trump to lie in his testimony, just that the sources referenced by Buzzfeed don’t say that.

It’s like Buzzfeed received an update from their anonymous sources (say the SDNY) indicating that Trump did instruct Cohen to lie, but SDNY is trying not to be the source, so they asked Buzzfeed to throw shade. The problem is, the shade thrown implicates the SCO as the source and the SCO ain’t having any of that tyvm.

So the SCO is busy doing their part to keep any flies from landing on them, Buzzfeed has a big fat juicy that is true in subject matter, but the dots they are using don’t match the picture presented.

Wierdly, I think I’m okay with that and am in ‘truth will out” mode as I expect that dots WILL be connected, and bad guys will be hung out to dry, but we’re in legal grammar nazi mode right now and I believe that Mueller is very much in the “if you come at the King, best not miss” modus operandi.

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austin_blue  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:00:41pm

So, big tRump announcement at three PM EST Saturday. Any bets on if he is enroute to Andrews at 3:15 to I’m a Logo?

Any bets on the content?

He’s been just busted in the chops on the shutdown.

How is he going to wheedle his way out of this without ending up with Pelosi’s political dick in his ass?

She’ll smile, slide the knife in his back and say “Of course you are welcome to present the SOTU to the full Congress now that we have an agreement refunding the government but with no agreement on the physical wall! Oh, dear! It appears you are bleeding! Would you like me to call a physician, you political lightweight?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:01:05pm

Re: the killing baby Hitler theme: Brian Elton’s 2014 novel “Time and Time Again” dealt with a secret organization sending a person back in time to stop World War I. Unfortunately — the outcome was even worse. A very intriguing take for SciFi fans on the law of unintended consequences.

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William Lewis  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:02:55pm

re: #209 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump’s shutdown has ripple effects.

Federal Contractors lose $200 million every week. And many of them will soon have to shut down.

Note—in the past, Contractors were stiffed and didn’t get back pay.

washingtonpost.com

Is it too much to hope that Blackwater er Xe Services oh wait, Academi is one of the contractors going under?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:09:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:17:04pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

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It’s essy to see why they want to make her a boogeyman. It ain’t working tho.

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ckkatz  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:18:09pm

#211 piratedan

I guess for me it seems the devil is in the details on the Buzzfeed story, so if we parse the special council’s comment on the story, they don’t say that the story is inaccurate, but rather their investigation is showing that the sources referenced in the buzzfeed story are not accurate, not that essence of the story isn’t true, just that their sourcing doesn’t jibe with the sources that the SCO is referencing or that the SCO also has those sources that Buzzfeed is referring to and the context of what is being referenced isn’t accurate.

The SCO is NOT saying that Cohen wasn’t instructed by Trump to lie in his testimony, just that the sources referenced by Buzzfeed don’t say that.

It’s like Buzzfeed received an update from their anonymous sources (say the SDNY) indicating that Trump did instruct Cohen to lie, but SDNY is trying not to be the source, so they asked Buzzfeed to throw shade. The problem is, the shade thrown implicates the SCO as the source and the SCO ain’t having any of that tyvm.

So the SCO is busy doing their part to keep any flies from landing on them, Buzzfeed has a big fat juicy that is true in subject matter, but the dots they are using don’t match the picture presented.

Wierdly, I think I’m okay with that and am in ‘truth will out” mode as I expect that dots WILL be connected, and bad guys will be hung out to dry, but we’re in legal grammar nazi mode right now and I believe that Mueller is very much in the “if you come at the King, best not miss” modus operandi.

Yup, that is my understanding as well.

The basic storyline is not denied. And everybody is assuming that the facts the SCO set up with Cohen pleading guilty to lying to Congress are still in place for when they are ready to prosecute others.

As you note, they are probably protecting their reputation for not saying anything. And they are probably suggesting that nobody take any actions under some assumption about the what the SCO knows or is going to do.

Likely, this is going to push the House to increase their investigations into this area as well. Remembering that the House doesn’t need to overcome the barrier of “Beyond a Reasonable Doubt”.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:21:38pm

Apparently yesterday the DNC filed their amended civil complaint against:

THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
ARAS ISKENEROVICH AGALAROV
EMIN ARAZ AGALAROV
JOSEPH MIFSUD
WIKILEAKS
JULIAN ASSANGE
DONALD J. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT, INC.
DONALD J. TRUMP, JR.
PAUL J. MANAFORT, JR.
ROGER J. STONE, JR.
JARED C. KUSHNER
GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS
RICHARD W. GATES, III

And it’s 111 pages of juicy content.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:22:55pm

Mexico: Fire at illegal fuel pipeline tap kills 20 (goes to Deutche Welle, more at the link):

Some 200 people were at the scene of a pipeline blast that left at least 20 dead. Dozens of Mexican states have experienced fuel shortages since President Lopez Obrador shut down pipelines to curb fuel theft.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:27:28pm

re: #199 Myron Falwell

true, at least Hutz is upfront about his “No, Money Down!” policy

That’s not a bad policy when dealing with criminal clients, from what I’ve observed working in a law office…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:27:38pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

It’s essy to see why they want to make her a boogeyman. It ain’t working tho.

Every time they complain, they bring her more attention. Conservatives don’t seem to get the Streisand Effect; they are her best publicists.

And the more her message gets out there, the more conservative voters are thinking about her ideas and why those ideas might be good for them.

She has got to be a nightmare to conservative pundits and politicians. At her age, it is unlikely they can even dig up something which might embarrass her (their pitiful attempts at shaming her for her coat, her home, her education, and her job all fell flat.)

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gwangung  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:32:34pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

Wrong. People always deserve respect, unless shown unworthy. Ideas (including religion) never deserve respect, unless shown to be true.

Any religion worth its faith should be able to withstand any criticism.

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Not to mention somewhat anti-Biblical since Christians ARE judged by their fruits. And Christians not living up to their faith are rightly seen as poor witnesses for their faith.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:36:02pm

E-mail from the Nebraska Democratic Party chairwoman. Note toward the end about Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE2, Omaha and South Sioux City). That goes back to the idea I had yesterday of throwing the Democratic Convention in Omaha.

If you missed Gov. Pete Ricketts’ State of the State Address, you didn’t miss much.

Ricketts said nothing bold, said nothing about Trump’s tariffs hurting farmers and said nothing about the unnecessary shutdown hurting government workers.

He did say his proposed budget would fund Medicaid expansion, which was approved by voters because of the efforts by many grassroots Democrats. We are keeping an eye on Ricketts — since he often says one thing and does another.

Meanwhile, Rep. Don Bacon tried to distance himself from all of his previous endorsements of Rep. Steve King of Iowa, who is finally being rebuked for his comments on white nationalism.

Bacon actually thought deleting the old pages on his website of endorsements from King would make the issue go away — but we know the only way we stop this endless and reckless behavior is to elect a strong Democrat to do the work of the people.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:40:52pm

Well, I did the online income tax filing yesterday and I thought I got a tax cut of $98.

Block reviewed corrected the input, now I find out that my Federal income tax cut went down by $3 from 98 to 95. Didn’t realize that I now have to include my state tax refund from 2017 in figuring out my Federal Tax liability.

Wow. Paul Ryan didn’t even give me $2 more every week…

Meanwhile the billionaires and Wall Street pimps get another windfall…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:41:59pm

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹

E-mail from the Nebraska Democratic Party chairwoman. Note toward the end about Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE2, Omaha and South Sioux City). That goes back to the idea I had yesterday of throwing the Democratic Convention in Omaha.

If you missed Gov. Pete Ricketts’ State of the State Address, you didn’t miss much.

Ricketts said nothing bold, said nothing about Trump’s tariffs hurting farmers and said nothing about the unnecessary shutdown hurting government workers.

He did say his proposed budget would fund Medicaid expansion, which was approved by voters because of the efforts by many grassroots Democrats. We are keeping an eye on Ricketts — since he often says one thing and does another.

Meanwhile, Rep. Don Bacon tried to distance himself from all of his previous endorsements of Rep. Steve King of Iowa, who is finally being rebuked for his comments on white nationalism.

Bacon actually thought deleting the old pages on his website of endorsements from King would make the issue go away — but we know the only way we stop this endless and reckless behavior is to elect a strong Democrat to do the work of the people.

For the record—I am NOT related to Don Bacon.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:45:54pm

re: #225 Joe Bacon 🌹

For the record—I am NOT related to Don Bacon.

You’re not all related to Kevin Bacon? I am disappoint!

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austin_blue  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:47:21pm

re: #226 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You’re not all related to Kevin Bacon? I am disappoint!

He’s got less than six degrees of separation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:55:32pm

re: #226 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You’re not all related to Kevin Bacon? I am disappoint!

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh…keep it on the down low…..

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 18, 2019 • 10:57:40pm

re: #227 austin_blue

He’s got less than six degrees of separation.

All is well….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 11:01:05pm

Looks like the shutdown finally hit home for Trump.

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austin_blue  Jan 18, 2019 • 11:07:59pm

re: #229 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

All is well….

Hell, I’ve got four degrees to QE 2. It’s a small world, but you wouldn’t want to paint it.

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prairiefire  Jan 18, 2019 • 11:13:42pm

Ooh, get an invite to her garden tea party.

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austin_blue  Jan 18, 2019 • 11:14:16pm

Adios, sleep, well.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 11:29:03pm

Louie! (Goes to Juanita Jean’s)

Louie Gohmert (R-Asparagus) weighs in on Steve King. It was in support of King’s racist commentary.

Additionally,

Louie also is deeply offended that Steve King did not get “due process” before being removed from his committee assignments. First, King himself voted for his removal. Second, when the hell did Louie Gohmert or Steve King care about anybody else’s due process?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2019 • 11:59:13pm

Back for one more thing, just to throw more bizarre on the day:

Exclusive: Kimberly Guilfoyle Left Fox News After Investigation Into Misconduct Allegations, Sources Say (Goes to Huffington Post, more at the link):

Guilfoyle’s departure was initially billed as her decision. However, as HuffPost first reported last week, multiple sources said she did not leave the network voluntarily. They said Guilfoyle was informed her time at Fox News was up following a human resources investigation into allegations of inappropriate behavior including sexual misconduct, and that her lawyers had been involved since the spring. Sources also said that despite being told she would have to leave by July, Guilfoyle repeatedly attempted to delay her exit and tried to have her allies appeal to Rupert Murdoch, the executive chairman of 21st Century Fox, the parent company of Fox News, to let her stay at the network.

This story is based on interviews conducted over the past year with 21 sources inside and outside Fox News and 21st Century Fox. All sources spoke to HuffPost on the condition of anonymity because they aren’t authorized to speak to the press, did not want to raise Guilfoyle’s ire or have signed nondisclosure agreements that prevent them from speaking to others about their experiences.

FOX is a cesspool.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 19, 2019 • 12:06:37am
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Ming5000  Jan 19, 2019 • 12:12:09am

re: #236 DodgerFan1988

I hope that kid watches this clip and notes how his soul almost visibly diminishes over the course of the minute.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 2:15:17am

After all the tweets I did yesterday about the “march for life”, this morning I just went to twitter and see that I have 68 notifications… sort of afraid to look for all the derp that will be lurking in there.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 2:16:49am

Trending this morning is #ExposeChristianSchools . Don’t know why it started, but it seems to have ruffled some feathers.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 2:24:58am
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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 2:28:40am

I know it’s a waste of time to argue with creationist, but…

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 2:32:30am
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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 2:36:56am
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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 2:40:26am

They are creationist because of course they are:

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 2:46:56am

Almost all the anti-abortionists in my twitter notifications are fundamentalists… and they are MAGAnuts.

Trump really knows how to work them.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 4:00:49am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 19, 2019 • 4:16:28am

And we’re off.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 19, 2019 • 4:22:51am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2019 • 4:45:22am

re: #247 Dave In Austin

And we’re off.

Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump
· 27m

.@newtgingrich just stated that there has been no president since Abraham Lincoln who has been treated worse or more unfairly by the media than your favorite President, me! At the same time there has been no president who has accomplished more in his first two years in office!

If you knew a car salesman who talked like that, you would make sure his family had the phone numbers of the county mental health resources.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2019 • 4:49:00am

re: #245 freetoken

Almost all the anti-abortionists in my twitter notifications are fundamentalists… and they are MAGAnuts.

Trump really knows how to work them.

But he didn’t create them. They’ve been sitting there, waiting for their man on horseback golfcart.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:01:37am

re: #219 Anymouse 🌹

Mexico: Fire at illegal fuel pipeline tap kills 20 (goes to Deutche Welle, more at the link):

This is a predictable catastrophe in developing countries. I learned of it in 1980 Korea, when a break in our USFK pipeline (Petroleum Distribution System Korea) took out a large part of a village. In the poor parts of the world, crowds with containers rush towards breached pipes, not way from them.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:04:48am

Wake da fuck up, y’all. I ain’t doing this by myself.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:06:46am

re: #247 Dave In Austin

And we’re off.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:15:28am
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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:16:15am

re: #252 Decatur Deb

Wake da fuck up, y’all. I ain’t doing this by myself.

I’m up! I’m up! What are we doing? 😁

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:21:56am

They think they’re so smart. Playing provocateur isn’t a good look.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:23:24am

re: #255 MsJ

Down here, we’re waiting for today’s winds and rain. The map from Corpus Christi to Knoxville looks pretty grim. In the worst case, I’m going to reef the plastic cover of my grow tunnel and put lids on all the container/totes. (Also have to feed and tend myself. Wife is in Colorado for the month, plugging daughter/grandson into their new life.)

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:24:30am

So… Even semi-following yesterday’s Baby Hitler stuff I don’t know what he said and I’m not really interested in Shapiro enough to investigate.

Anyone have a Cliff Notes version?

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:26:29am

re: #257 Decatur Deb

Down here, we’re waiting for today’s winds and rain. The map from Corpus Christi to Knoxville looks pretty grim. In the worst case, I’m going to reef the plastic cover of my grow tunnel and put lids on all the container/totes. (Also have to feed and tend myself. Wife is in Colorado for the month, plugging daughter/grandson into their new life.)

You’ll be ok. We’ll keep you company throughout!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:26:47am

re: #258 MsJ

So… Even semi-following yesterday’s Baby Hitler stuff I don’t know what he said and I’m not really interested in Shapiro enough to investigate.

Anyone have a Cliff Notes version?

Shapiro was at the March for Life event and said that no one would kill baby Hitler because he was, well, a baby. I’m not sure exactly what his point was, but the remark went over like the proverbial lead balloon.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:27:21am

re: #258 MsJ

So… Even semi-following yesterday’s Baby Hitler stuff I don’t know what he said and I’m not really interested in Shapiro enough to investigate.

Anyone have a Cliff Notes version?

Let me check the local paper.


Here it is, after the lost-dog notices. Shapiro said something stupid.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:28:09am

re: #213 Hecuba’s daughter

Re: the killing baby Hitler theme: Brian Elton’s 2014 novel “Time and Time Again” dealt with a secret organization sending a person back in time to stop World War I. Unfortunately — the outcome was even worse. A very intriguing take for SciFi fans on the law of unintended consequences.

I just bought the Kindle version. Looking forward to reading it now.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:30:58am

re: #262 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I just bought the Kindle version. Looking forward to reading it now.

Is the alternate future so chaotic that a rich imbecile philanders his way into the White House? ‘Cause that would be pretty unbelievable.

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ericblair  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:31:13am

re: #260 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Shapiro was at the March for Life event and said that no one would kill baby Hitler because he was, well, a baby. I’m not sure exactly what his point was, but the remark went over like the proverbial lead balloon.

Go after their money streams. That’s what hurts them.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:31:54am

re: #260 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Shapiro was at the March for Life event and said that no one would kill baby Hitler because he was, well, a baby. I’m not sure exactly what his point was, but the remark went over like the proverbial lead balloon.

I’m at a loss why this blew up. He’s said far worse. And he’s said far worse quite often.

I’m baffled.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:33:26am

re: #264 ericblair

Go after their money streams. That’s what hurts them.

How anyone can admire Ben Shapiro’s intellect defies belief. Was he drunk at the time, because bringing up killing Hitler at a anti-abortion rally makes no fucking sense?

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steve_davis  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:34:42am

re: #154 teleskiguy

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blows my mind to consider my mom’s dad was born less than 4 decades after this photo was taken.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:37:35am

re: #267 steve_davis

My mother’s grandfather was born while Lincoln was still alive.

It’s far too easy (especially for young people) to not have a sense of time and history.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:38:04am
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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:39:08am

Heck, my grandfather was born when Chester Arthur was President…

I feel old.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:41:05am

re: #191 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

After shuffle dancing, we can eat some generously buttered noodles, sprinkled with just a quarter cup of parsley for color and freshness, which are the perfect blank canvas for just about any stew or braise.

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Time to go back to bed. My day is made.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:41:45am

re: #267 steve_davis

re: #268 freetoken

Both of my parents lived through WWII. My dad was in SHAEF HQ and my mom was in high school writing up ration coupon books. Most people do not believe me when I tell them this.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:46:08am

re: #268 freetoken

My mother’s grandfather was born while Lincoln was still alive.

It’s far too easy (especially for young people) to not have a sense of time and history.

My paternal grandfather was born before Lincoln was elected president. My parents were born just as WWI began.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:50:19am

FDR was my first president, by almost a year.

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jeffreyw  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:54:40am

Good morning!

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 5:56:08am

Speaking of Arthur, I wonder if he is where the Republican party started to go wrong. When I come across his statements the more than a little bit harbor xenophobia.

Way back in ‘81, the fear in America over immigrants was not from Mexico, but from….

Negotiations have been opened with Switzerland looking to a settlement by treaty of the question whether its citizens can renounce their allegiance and become citizens of the United States without obtaining the consent of the Swiss Government.

I am glad to inform you that the immigration of paupers and criminals from certain of the Cantons of Switzerland has substantially ceased and is no longer sanctioned by the authorities.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:01:52am

re: #248 Dave In Austin

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Would that be the same media that is the only reason people know who you are, Erick? You’re in the media too buddy. The media also is why Trump is more than just a sleazy Queens developer.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:07:17am

re: #276 freetoken

Speaking of Arthur, I wonder if he is where the Republican party started to go wrong. When I come across his statements the more than a little bit harbor xenophobia.

Way back in ‘81, the fear in America over immigrants was not from Mexico, but from….

Xenophobia was pretty rampant during that part of American history. Seems the people who got there first were worried about the millions of immigrants coming in the late 19th and early 20th century. Fear was one reason for the IQ tests given (in English) to immigrants to thin the herd, as it were. It’s a recurring pattern.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:07:40am

From what I gather Ben was arguing that you wouldn’t kill a baby Hitler if you were time traveling so why are you okay with abortion. It’s a ludicrous argument. It doesn’t offend me in the slightest and I’m honestly surprised he lost ads for it as he’s said much worse things. I’m more offended he really thought this was a logical argument.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:08:13am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:08:45am

MSNBC just reported that the entire buzzfeed story is likely incorrect. Looks like everyone here was correct in being skeptical. As we use to stay in the Navy, “Standby to standby.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:12:02am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

From what I gather Ben was arguing that you wouldn’t kill a baby Hitler if you were time traveling so why are you okay with abortion. It’s a ludicrous argument. It doesn’t offend me in the slightest and I’m honestly surprised he lost ads for it as he’s said much worse things. I’m more offended he really thought this was a logical argument.

Precisely my thought. This makes no sense. At all.

I wasn’t offended in the least. His statement was a complete Meh. Of all the crackpot stuff this guy spews, **this** is the hill his corporate backers (???? Why????) don’t want to climb?

I’m lost at these values.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:12:58am

My surname ancestors arrived in the Arthur years. I even found Great Grandfather’s Castle Garden records with his mom, brother, & sister. I’m not sure if they immediately went to Pittsburgh or not. But his uncle and family followed not long after. And I know he still spoke German since I have a 1936 letter he wrote to Germany on behalf of his brother who had died suddenly. As for when the GOP started going downhill, I give you the 1876 election.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:14:40am

Morning Lizardim from the bitterly cold wild north country. Do we have any additional information on that inflammatory bombshell from Buzzfeed last night?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:15:49am

re: #282 MsJ

Precisely my thought. This makes no sense. At all.

I wasn’t offended in the least. His statement was a complete Meh. Of all the crackpot stuff this guy spews, **this** is the hill his corporate backers (???? Why????) don’t want to climb?

I’m lost at these values.

Yeah exactly. In fact, I’m almost amused that he thought it was a good argument. It’s something you hear smoking the bong. I’m trying to think but it reminds me of another right winger who lost their ads over something more meh. I think maybe Laura Ingraham mocking Hogg? Which was childish of course but not the worst either.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:18:50am

re: #284 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Mueller statement wound up Trump and his minions… but the very fact that Mueller made a statement is itself an interesting event.

Mostly, I think we’ve concluded that Mueller doesn’t want leaks (say from the SDNY) to mess with his investigation.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:22:24am

re: #278 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Xenophobia was pretty rampant during that part of American history. Seems the people who got there first were worried about the millions of immigrants coming in the late 19th and early 20th century. Fear was one reason for the IQ tests given (in English) to immigrants to thin the herd, as it were. It’s a recurring pattern.

The most sad thing for me is when the descendants of those immigrants forget their mistreatments and then engage in it themselves. Some of the ugliest bigots to Chinese immigrants were Irish immigrants. I also remember reading about a chapter of the KKK in Worcester, Ma comprised of Swedish immigrants hostile to Catholics.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:24:26am

re: #286 freetoken

The Mueller statement wound up Trump and his minions… but the very fact that Mueller made a statement is itself an interesting event.

Mostly, I think we’ve concluded that Mueller doesn’t want leaks (say from the SDNY) to mess with his investigation.

So basically the way things were when I passed out last night. Got it. Thank you.

Out to go get Mrs. Fish her covfefe. Be back in a few.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:28:57am

re: #281 Dr. Matt

MSNBC just reported that the entire buzzfeed story is likely incorrect. Looks like everyone here was correct in being skeptical. As we use to stay in the Navy, “Standby to standby.

The source was probably from Trump’s team specifically to reinforce the fake news bullshit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:32:59am

re: #286 freetoken

The Mueller statement wound up Trump and his minions… but the very fact that Mueller made a statement is itself an interesting event.

Mostly, I think we’ve concluded that Mueller doesn’t want leaks (say from the SDNY) to mess with his investigation.

Yes. I was reading comments to Ronan Farrow’s tweet on this. Lots of RWNJs saying “you lefties are like Q followers now!” “You’ll grab at anything cuz you hate him so much” (a little bit of truth in the second one, actually.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:34:29am

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:38:07am

This is pretty convincing to me:

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:38:16am

This is interesting. The thread by Olear calls Cohen not a fixer but a bagman. Read the entire thread…

This stands out to me:

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Varek Raith  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:43:27am

GG Buzzfeed.
e_e

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:48:05am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:48:10am

re: #2 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump is furiously retweeting every criticism of “fake news” he can find.

i love the smell of desperation in the morning….

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:51:51am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:54:13am

re: #30 Dave In Austin

$98k for a fucking banana…..

i paid $2.29 for a single banana at disney last week
had a bunch in my room. they were from publix at $0.69 a pound
the room was too far to walk back to

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:54:19am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:55:28am

re: #35 Myron Falwell

“…the (Nixon) White House celebrates the error, calling into question every story Woodward and Bernstein wrote for the Post”

Huh.

they got one story wrong - legitimately wrong
there was confusion and haste

so the wh tried to paint everything they ever did the same way
(ps - didnt stick)

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:57:16am

re: #299 Myron Falwell

I couldn’t even watch it. All the young, white kids in the background whooping it up in the still picture just made me sad. I don’t need to watch it to be sadder.

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Varek Raith  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:59:32am

re: #236 DodgerFan1988

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Infuriating.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:59:38am

re: #301 MsJ

I couldn’t even watch it. All the young, white kids in the background whooping it up in the still picture just made me sad. I don’t need to watch it to be sadder.

They’ve been outed as students at an all-male Catholic high school in Covington, Kentucky that went to DC to see Ben Shapiro wax nostalgic about Baby Hitler.

Unsurprisingly, the school’s twitter account was taken private, and their VM is “full.”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 6:59:57am

re: #68 Ace Rothstein

Even if they did find prayer rugs, so fucking what?

can you tell if a rug’s been used for prayer by looking at it?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:01:53am

speaking of Ben, his stupid quip cost him Quip as an advertiser

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:01:59am

re: #78 teleskiguy

He’s gleefully whipping up the mouth breathers.

Fake News is truly the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!

like it or not ‘fake news’ is one of the core functions of a free society

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:02:40am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

From what I gather Ben was arguing that you wouldn’t kill a baby Hitler if you were time traveling so why are you okay with abortion. It’s a ludicrous argument. It doesn’t offend me in the slightest and I’m honestly surprised he lost ads for it as he’s said much worse things. I’m more offended he really thought this was a logical argument.

If f talking about abortion, the question should be aborting fetus Hitler, and taking away the agency of choice away from the mother. More directly, if YOU were carrying fetus genocidal maniac, would you abortion him?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:04:15am

re: #305 Myron Falwell

speaking of Ben, his stupid quip cost him Quip as an advertiser

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Not likely to happen to the folks at Crooked Media who are also sponsored by Quip.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:04:29am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:05:08am

re: #100 jaunte

I think they’ll just change the rules and argue that (1) they won, or (2) it doesn’t matter.

Fox News: @greggutfeld says it “doesn’t matter” if BuzzFeed report that Trump ordered Michael Cohen to lie to Congress is true (ignoring 18 U.S.C. § 2b): “It doesn’t matter if the story is true or not. Because it was originally about collision & it’s not even about that anymore”

“Whitewater”

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:05:56am

re: #241 freetoken

I know it’s a waste of time to argue with creationist, but…

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Morning!

Freetoken, why would you even want to engage in a twitter debate with someone with the handle: Because I Said So?

I think the results are already known. You are going to be wrong no matter what. That mind is closed.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:08:12am

re: #311 ObserverArt

Morning!

Freetoken, why would you even want to engage in a twitter debate with someone with the handle: Because I Said So?

Because they have thousands of followers who will read my replies.

I had lots of notifications this morning, from people not originally in the conversation but who jumped in.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:08:53am

re: #300 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

they got one story wrong - legitimately wrong
there was confusion and haste

so the wh tried to paint everything they ever did the same way
(ps - didnt stick)

Those parallels are pretty shocking. Just substitute Nixon with Trump and Bob Dole with any RWNJ Twitter Rando.

One thing of note that I can’t help but notice: Woodward and Bernstein’s flub-up happened so early in the Watergate storyline.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:09:19am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:09:36am

Ben would kill baby Hitler if baby Hitler were brown.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:10:20am

re: #315 GlutenFreeJesus

Ben would kill baby Hitler if baby Hitler were brown.

Ben would kill baby Hillary just because.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:12:03am

Yeah, everyone knew it was a lie. Sure, Jan. That’s why every need org reported it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:13:23am

Ben in his own words was shown to have been indifferent to civilian casualties in war.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:14:04am

re: #317 MsJ

Yeah, everyone knew it was a lie. Sure, Jan. That’s why every need org reported it.

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Nolte now there’s a rage baby I haven’t seen in awhile.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:15:07am

re: #258 MsJ

So… Even semi-following yesterday’s Baby Hitler stuff I don’t know what he said and I’m not really interested in Shapiro enough to investigate.

Anyone have a Cliff Notes version?

I have the Cliff Notes Condensed Cliff Notes Version.

Ben Shapiro opened his mouth. A lot of stupid flowed out.

You are now caught up.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:16:55am

re: #316 MsJ

Ben would kill baby Hillary just because.

Nah, Ben would just condescendingly talk down to Baby Hillary and the Daily Wire would proclaim how much he destroyed her and he would RT it. He’s a coward. Not the type that ever gets his hands dirty himself. You didn’t see him in Iraq despite him cheerleading for it from Harvard.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:16:59am

re: #320 ObserverArt

I have the Cliff Notes Condensed Cliff Notes Version.

Ben Shapiro opened his mouth. A lot of stupid flowed out.

You are now caught up.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:17:12am

re: #320 ObserverArt

I have the Cliff Notes Condensed Cliff Notes Version.

Ben Shapiro opened his mouth. A lot of stupid flowed out.

You are now caught up.

Pretty much.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:17:51am

re: #320 ObserverArt

I have the Cliff Notes Condensed Cliff Notes Version.

Ben Shapiro opened his mouth. A lot of stupid flowed out.

You are now caught up.

and it happened on a day ending in “y”

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:19:32am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

From what I gather Ben was arguing that you wouldn’t kill a baby Hitler if you were time traveling so why are you okay with abortion. It’s a ludicrous argument. It doesn’t offend me in the slightest and I’m honestly surprised he lost ads for it as he’s said much worse things. I’m more offended he really thought this was a logical argument.

Isn’t his argument even more simple?

I thought it was pro-life people do not kill any babies. Period.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:19:38am

re: #324 Myron Falwell

and it happened on a day ending in “y”

And he thinks he won. Again my observations of him isn’t that he’s stupid like Wohl or Kirk. He is something more pathetic imo. Profoundly dishonest and has no humility at all.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:19:46am

re: #317 MsJ

Yeah, everyone knew it was a lie. Sure, Jan. That’s why every need org reported it.

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lol, at least Buzzfeed has a standards and practices department as opposed to Nolte’s former employer

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:20:21am

re: #325 ObserverArt

Isn’t his argument even more simple?

I thought it was pro-life people do not kill any babies. Period.

I think it’s that too but he loves trying to shame pro choice people especially women.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:20:40am

re: #327 Myron Falwell

lol, at least Buzzfeed has a standards and practices department as opposed to Nolte’s former employer

Seriously.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:21:47am

He thinks he’s this generation’s WFB when WFB was if you really knew what he stood for was no one to be admired.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:22:24am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

And he thinks he won. Again my observations of him isn’t that he’s stupid like Wohl or Kirk. He is something more pathetic imo. Profoundly dishonest and has no humility at all.

I haven’t checked the Daily Wire yet but have they posted a puff piece about Ben’s speechifying yesterday? I mean, they took a five-word reply tweet he sent to AOC and made a 500-word piece about how he “owned” her…

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:22:27am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

You may recall a discussion I had here with a Muslim who Mr. Johnson has now removed. He was concerned about a mosque in North Platte being unable to expand its parking lot on its own land due to interference by the city council.

So I went researching that for him, and over four years the city council tried to use zoning laws to prevent the mosque from expanding the lot. Locals were concerned about traffic (read Muslims).

It was a harassment campaign against the mosque which ended in favour of the mosque, but took four years to resolve. Federal law is clear you cannot use zoning laws against any house of worship, and the city government simply did not care.

Yes they lost. They cost the mosque and the taxpayers millions between them, simply to enforce a restriction on their parking lot (and by extension their religion).

The point of all these “religious freedom” cases is not that they all seem fruitless. The point is harassment, and the brass ring that one gets through.

I notice you haven’t addressed the idea that corporations have religions they can impose on their workers yet.

it is unfortunate and true that no one (in this country) has a right not to be accused criminally, or sued civilly

people with power (the cop who pulls you over, the zealous ada, the city council, the guy who rear-ended you) can drag you over that line and into the system

then you must work with its rules

once ‘cleared’, sometimes there are mechanisms for false arrest, prosecution, frivolous lawsuits, etc. othertimes not, and it sux.

cf all those people who own land on the border, living their lives mostly quietly minding their own business. they are gonna lose their land unless they find some money and fight. they may lose, they may win. if they win, doubtful they’ll get their costs back.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:25:07am

re: #331 Myron Falwell

I haven’t checked the Daily Wire yet but have they posted a puff piece about Ben’s speechifying yesterday? I mean, they took a five-word reply tweet he sent to AOC and made a 500-word piece about how he “owned” her…

I’m sure they have. And that incident you’re referencing is exactly what I’m talking about with him. He can’t resist jacking himself off. TDW is full with Ben Shapiro “hyperbole verb” headlines.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:25:15am

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

Wrong. People always deserve respect, unless shown unworthy. Ideas (including religion) never deserve respect, unless shown to be true.

Any religion worth its faith should be able to withstand any criticism.

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im waiting for the first one…

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:26:58am

re: #290 Barefoot Grin

Yes. I was reading comments to Ronan Farrow’s tweet on this. Lots of RWNJs saying “you lefties are like Q followers now!” “You’ll grab at anything cuz you hate him so much” (a little bit of truth in the second one, actually.)

A bit. A tiny little bit, yes.

But unlike Q followers there is pretty good evidence already that Trump was up to no good. So there is a root of logic involved to accept the Buzzfeed story. That is why it was accepted.

And, the whole story has not been shot down, just some question as to the facts behind it.

I think there is a good chance the story still comes to be true.

How is that Pizzagate story going with the Qers? Some still believe it.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:27:09am

re: #154 teleskiguy

v

so he did look more like ramond massey than henry fonda

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:31:11am

I’m cool with testing this theory

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:31:59am

re: #336 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

so he did look more like ramond massey than henry fonda

Think I heard Massey did the best with the voice too as there were actually people who had heard him when the Massey movie came out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:34:08am

re: #337 Myron Falwell

I’m cool with testing this theory

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You are such a drama queen. Remember when Bill Clinton claimed impeaching him would cause the stock market to crash. Oh wait.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:40:41am

re: #312 freetoken

Because they have thousands of followers who will read my replies.

I had lots of notifications this morning, from people not originally in the conversation but who jumped in.

Are her followers following because they are as closed minded as her or is she getting a lot of kickback for being close minded about her pro-life stances?

I only responded the way I did, because you admitted in that comment it was rather futile.

Have fun!

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:41:18am

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

@AOC
All your base (are) belong to us 👾

girl is good

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:43:16am

re: #220 Pawn of the Oppressor

That’s not a bad policy when dealing with criminal clients, from what I’ve observed working in a law office…

or those in tax trouble, cause if you already stiffed the irs…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:45:13am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

You are such a drama queen. Remember when Bill Clinton claimed impeaching him would cause the stock market to crash. Oh wait.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath — not for the underlying non-crime of a consensual relationship with an adult woman. Trump’s attorneys have figured that as long as he doesn’t testify under oath, he’s free.

As to the Michael Cohen allegations, crime bosses don’t have to tell their underlings exactly what to do. Trump didn’t have to say explicitly: lie under oath. Michael knew that he was never supposed to contradict Trump’s statements.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:45:49am

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹

Louie! (Goes to Juanita Jean’s)

Louie Gohmert (R-Asparagus) weighs in on Steve King. It was in support of King’s racist commentary.

Additionally,

louie, in that setting, he wasnt entitled to due process

dont you know the rules?

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:46:07am

re: #343 Hecuba’s daughter

Michael knew that he was never supposed to contradict Trump’s statements.

That’s one job Trump will always do himself.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:47:59am

re: #343 Hecuba’s daughter

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath — not for the underlying non-crime of a consensual relationship with an adult woman. Trump’s attorneys have figured that as long as he doesn’t testify under oath, he’s free.

As to the Michael Cohen allegations, crime bosses don’t have to tell their underlings exactly what to do. Trump didn’t have to say explicitly: lie under oath. Michael knew that he was never supposed to contradict Trump’s statements.

I’m aware. I’m saying that Clinton didn’t act like a little shit and threatened the state of the economy over his departure.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:50:23am

re: #344 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

louie, in that setting, he wasnt entitled to due process

dont you know the rules?

I’ll humor Louie here a little. Let’s give King his due process and his long record of saying racist shit, campaigning for European fascists, & being an all around bigot a chance for everyone to know. Scalise’s David Duke love can make a cameo too since I’m sure Duke has praised King.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:52:50am

re: #343 Hecuba’s daughter

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath — not for the underlying non-crime of a consensual relationship with an adult woman. Trump’s attorneys have figured that as long as he doesn’t testify under oath, he’s free.

As to the Michael Cohen allegations, crime bosses don’t have to tell their underlings exactly what to do. Trump didn’t have to say explicitly: lie under oath. Michael knew that he was never supposed to contradict Trump’s statements.

Which is what Kurt Eichenwald is sort of saying in his tweet thread Barefoot Grin posted in #292. Cohen was a foot soldier protecting his leader. He thought he needed to lie because he was directed to lie before in the Trump Affairs Pay-Off.

There will be much denial from Trump of course. I think John Gotti denied a lot of his connections too. Mueller’s FBI took care of that.

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:52:59am

re: #246 freetoken

Speaking from the standpoint of a U of IL band member (even if decades ago) and the secretary of the U of I marching band (before grrrrls were allowed), that was our favorite number!

Edited to say I meant the St Louis Blues March, not Perfidia, as good as it is.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:53:31am

re: #240 freetoken

No need to complicate the issue.

Even without faith we all realize, on some basic level, that innocent lives should be protected.

Declaring that a fetus doesn’t qualify as a life may make the practice more tolerable to you, but it doesn’t make the reality any less tragic.

isnt now and never has been the issue

the issue is when, in the seamless progression from fertilization to birth, it ‘becomes’ a
single, discrete human life with constitutional rights and protections

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:55:47am

re: #349 retired cynic

edited for clarity

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 7:59:35am

re: #350 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

isnt now and never has been the issue

the issue is when, in the seamless progression from fertilization to birth, it ‘becomes’ a
single, discrete human life with constitutional rights and protections

And when does that fetus who can’t live outside the mother’s womb have its rights on par with the mother’s rights to determine what she wants to do with her pregnancy. TBH abortion is a messy issue but the biggest issue I have is the anti abortion movement is full of men like Shapiro who will never experience pregnancy telling women what to do.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:01:42am

re: #349 retired cynic

Speaking from the standpoint of a U of IL band member (even if decades ago) and the secretary of the U of I marching band (before grrrrls were allowed), that was our favorite number!

Edited to say I meant the St Louis Blues March, not Perfidia, as good as it is.

Zuppke Field!

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:04:24am

re: #270 freetoken

Heck, my grandfather was born when Chester Arthur was President…

I feel old.

grover cleveland here (2x grandads and grandmas that is)

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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:04:53am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:05:57am

re: #280 MsJ

CREW has found that the total number of known conflicts of interest involving the Trump Organization over the last two years now stands at more than 1,400

one would have brought down virtually anyone else

1400 is just a number with no context any more

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:06:47am

“…your favorite President, me!”

Can it get any more stupid? I think it can.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:07:10am

re: #300 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

they got one story wrong - legitimately wrong
there was confusion and haste

so the wh tried to paint everything they ever did the same way
(ps - didnt stick)

Yes, but we as humans live in the moment. We don’t get to live as historians looking back on events from the future. For all they knew, what they had been fed at that point could have been a con.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:10:20am

re: #334 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

im waiting for the first one…

My faith in chocolate is pretty damn strong.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:10:24am

re: #357 jaunte

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Can it get any more stupid? I think it can.

Your favorite President is so pathetic. And Newt is delusional. And if Trump is widely hated, he’s earned it. He’s earned it by doing shit like that where he brags and whines in the same tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:11:12am

Imagine if Pelosi called herself your favorite Speaker.

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:12:24am

re: #350 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

isnt now and never has been the issue

the issue is when, in the seamless progression from fertilization to birth, it ‘becomes’ a
single, discrete human life with constitutional rights and protections

a fetus does have legal rights — for example, it may be an heir with its own representation in probate court. Its lawyer may be different than the lawyer representing the woman in whose body it currently resides.

What it doesn’t have, what no person (born or unborn) has any right to, is SOMEBODY ELSE’S internal organs. Somebody else’s blood, the calcium in somebody else’s bones. Even a corpse has the right not to have its parts taken for somebody else’s benefit.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:12:34am

So-called Master Marketer.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:13:05am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:13:27am

Trump is using the Dreamers as hostages for his fucking wall money.

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Dizzy  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:14:22am
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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:15:59am

re: #365 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump is using the Dreamers as hostages for his fucking wall money.

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So now he’s asking for 1/5th of what Schumer offered last year in exchange for what Schumer wanted? What a negotiator.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:17:20am

re: #364 jaunte

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He has no real successes. Gorsuch was a gift from McConnell. The tax cut didn’t do shit. All he’s done is made Asshole Americans more comfortable being assholes again.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:17:38am

re: #367 Belafon

So now he’s asking for 1/5th of what Schumer offered last year in exchange for what Schumer wanted? What a negotiator.

The best!//

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:21:40am

“Triggering the libs” isn’t an accomplishment no matter what your right wing uncle wants to think.

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:23:05am

re: #349 retired cynic

Speaking from the standpoint of a U of IL band member (even if decades ago) and the secretary of the U of I marching band (before grrrrls were allowed), that was our favorite number!

Edited to say I meant the St Louis Blues March, not Perfidia, as good as it is.

And honestly… we did it better!

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:26:41am

re: #313 Myron Falwell

Those parallels are pretty shocking. Just substitute Nixon with Trump and Bob Dole with any RWNJ Twitter Rando.

One thing of note that I can’t help but notice: Woodward and Bernstein’s flub-up happened so early in the Watergate storyline
.

yup they got better at it

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:31:28am

re: #357 jaunte

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Can it get any more stupid? I think it can.

There is. No. Derp. Limit.

And the GOP needs to fucking own this forever.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:31:36am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

I’ll humor Louie here a little. Let’s give King his due process and his long record of saying racist shit, campaigning for European fascists, & being an all around bigot a chance for everyone to know. Scalise’s David Duke love can make a cameo too since I’m sure Duke has praised King.

ok that works for me too

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:33:43am

re: #367 Belafon

So now he’s asking for 1/5th of what Schumer offered last year in exchange for what Schumer wanted? What a negotiator.

Interesting to see what the Democrats do in that situation. Certainly Nancy would agree to $5 billion for border security in exchange for DACA, but not a wall. The wall should always have been part of separate legislation and not a CR.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:34:20am

So should the Dems even consider this deal or continue to tell Trump to fuck off on the Wall?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:35:19am

re: #375 Hecuba’s daughter

Interesting to see what the Democrats do in that situation. Certainly Nancy would agree to $5 billion for border security in exchange for DACA, but not a wall. The wall should always have been part of separate legislation and not a CR.

Nancy has made it clear she wants increased security at PoE but Trump has dishonestly (big shock I know) tried to claim Nancy and Chuck don’t want security. The truth is their proposal would be more effective.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:35:24am

So, do we think Buzzfeed just jumped to conclusions - that Cohen doing exactly what Trump wanted could have only happened if Trump told him - or do we think Buzzfeed was fed something misleading?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:36:04am

re: #376 Eclectic Cyborg

So should the Dems even consider this deal or continue to tell Trump to fuck off on the Wall?

Fuck the wall. The people on the border don’t want it. Don’t give an inch. I don’t trust him on DACA at all.

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:36:51am

re: #376 Eclectic Cyborg

So should the Dems even consider this deal or continue to tell Trump to fuck off on the Wall?

IMO, they should secure all the rights for DACA recipients they can, and whatever immigration improvements they can, and take it. The odds are that whatever wall he wants to be built will be tied up in legal battles until long after he is gone.

And then they should thank him and his team for talking themselves down from $20B last year to $6B this year. Much better for the budget.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:37:45am

re: #365 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump is using the Dreamers as hostages for his fucking wall money.

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lol he had a chance to get off the exit ramp and fucking blew it

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:37:49am

re: #380 retired cynic

The Dreamers have been yanked around enough. Again, IMO.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:39:43am

re: #375 Hecuba’s daughter

Interesting to see what the Democrats do in that situation. Certainly Nancy would agree to $5 billion for border security in exchange for DACA, but not a wall. The wall should always have been part of separate legislation and not a CR.

What Trump-McConnell-Jared are hoping to do is to change the narrative by wanting to claim Democrats are hypocrites by not accepting what they offered before. As much as the government needs to reopen, the GOP shutting down government to try to get what they want has to end, and it especially has to end for Trump. I would take it if and only if Trump on camera states that he will no longer shut down the government over the wall.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:39:51am

re: #375 Hecuba’s daughter

Interesting to see what the Democrats do in that situation. Certainly Nancy would agree to $5 billion for border security in exchange for DACA, but not a wall. The wall should always have been part of separate legislation and not a CR.

Call a primetime address tonight and call his bluff right then and there.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:41:01am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Fuck the wall. The people on the border don’t want it. Don’t give an inch. I don’t trust him on DACA at all.

However, if DACA is clearly written as part of the legislation, they might be forced to implement it. OTOH I could see this criminal enterprise writing regulations that would in effect nullify the law.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:45:34am

re: #385 Hecuba’s daughter

However, if DACA is clearly written as part of the legislation, they might be forced to implement it. OTOH I could see this criminal enterprise writing regulations that would in effect nullify the law.

Right because otherwise government reopens, Trump gets his wall money and then promptly tells the Dems “screw you, I’m not doing DACA.”

Tell me that isn’t a Trump move all the way.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:47:47am

re: #385 Hecuba’s daughter

However, if DACA is clearly written as part of the legislation, they might be forced to implement it. OTOH I could see this criminal enterprise writing regulations that would in effect nullify the law.

I just don’t know. I haven’t seen seen anything on this that suggests he’d protect the DACA kids.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:48:23am

re: #386 Eclectic Cyborg

Right because otherwise government reopens, Trump gets his wall money and then promptly tells the Dems “screw you, I’m not doing DACA.”

Tell me that isn’t a Trump move all the way.

Exactly. And he’s more likely to do that than not.

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:49:11am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:50:04am

re: #383 Belafon

What Trump-McConnell-Jared are hoping to do is to change the narrative by wanting to claim Democrats are hypocrites by not accepting what they offered before. As much as the government needs to reopen, the GOP shutting down government to try to get what they want has to end, and it especially has to end for Trump. I would take it if and only if Trump on camera states that he will no longer shut down the government over the wall.

The problem for Trump, Mitch and the GOP is that they’ve messaged the shit out of the wall, and it’s not working. Doing this at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon is fucking telling here. It’s not 9pm on a Tuesday evening.

Trump is likely offering DACA knowing that Mitch won’t go for it during the three-week CR window, forcing Pelosi’s hand. I’d still give Pelosi the decisive advantage on this, however.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:50:41am

re: #365 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

DOA.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:51:35am

re: #391 Ace Rothstein

DOA.

Can’t spell Donald without DOA

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:51:36am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Fuck the wall. The people on the border don’t want it. Don’t give an inch. I don’t trust him on DACA at all.

There is already all the wall there can ever be that does any good. The wall is not really a wall against Mexican illegal immigration. It’s a wall perfectly designed to box in those of us with any empathy for other than white wealthy people. More politics than practical. more powerful in white separatist territory and the heartless heartland than a nuke plant.

That is what his wall does with no steel, no concrete. Break down the wall.

Clip from link

TUCSON — The largest single group of migrant families and minors ever recorded in the Yuma area tunneled underneath a border fence and voluntarily turned themselves in to U.S. Border Patrol agents, according to Customs and Border Protection officials in Arizona.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:53:31am

re: #392 retired cynic

WaPo:
Opinions
Michael Hayden and Neal Katyal: The House should investigate impeaching Trump

I hate that Hayden is such a loud anti Trump voice because he exactly wasn’t great in the Bush years which gives the Greenwald Tracey types fuel but he’s right. They absolutely should.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:55:40am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

I just don’t know. I haven’t seen seen anything on this that suggests he’d protect the DACA kids.

My impression was that back in early 2018 Trump was willing to do the deal but the highly racist John Kelly short-circuited it.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:57:09am

I shouldn’t be surprised by how Trump managed to fuck up what should have been an easy way out from this mess, but I am.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:57:09am

re: #396 Hecuba’s daughter

My impression was that back in early 2018 Trump was willing to do the deal but the highly racist John Kelly short-circuited it.

Kind of proves my point. Let’s say he agrees and then the evil more racist Miller gets his ear. He’s not to be trusted.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:57:49am

re: #397 Myron Falwell

I shouldn’t be surprised by how Trump managed to fuck up what should have been an easy way out from this mess, but I am.

His being unqualified shows every day.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:58:19am

re: #396 Hecuba’s daughter

My impression was that back in early 2018 Trump was willing to do the deal but the highly racist John Kelly short-circuited it.

Likely a nasty combination of Kelly, Gorba, Miller and Coulter. Because why not?

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 19, 2019 • 8:59:23am

If there is one square inch for a wall in this “deal,” Pelosi should get up, say “bye bye,” and walk out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:00:51am

re: #400 Myron Falwell

Likely a nasty combination of Kelly, Gorba, Miller and Coulter. Because why not?

Exactly

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:00:52am

I wonder if he’ll threaten to declare a national emergency if the Dems don’t take his deal.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:02:27am

re: #401 Ace Rothstein

If there is one square inch for a wall in this “deal,” Pelosi should get up, say “bye bye,” and walk out.

I can also see her saying, “look, we have a veto-proof-in-the-senate CR, that’s our only offer” with a fuckton of snark.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:03:49am

re: #403 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if he’ll threaten to declare a national emergency if the Dems don’t take his deal.

Let him. That’s the only exit ramp he has that isn’t an outright humiliation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:06:53am

Let’s say Schumer suddenly wanted to cave and give Trump his wall money. Can he do that and get a bill through without involvement from Pelosi?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:08:20am

re: #406 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s say Schumer suddenly wanted to cave and give Trump his wall money. Can he do that and get a bill through without involvement from Pelosi?

I very much doubt that considering the House not Senate approves appropriations.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:08:28am

re: #404 Myron Falwell

I can also see her saying, “look, we have a veto-proof-in-the-senate CR, that’s our only offer” with a fuckton of snark.

No — it’s not veto-proof, because the GOP will stand firm and McConnell won’t let it on the floor. After all, 42 Republicans supported the Russians this week, including Mitt, the worthless coward. These same POS members of the GOP will support the wall.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:11:08am

Government workers are due to miss their SECOND paycheck this coming Friday if I’m not mistaken.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:13:29am

re: #408 Hecuba’s daughter

No — it’s not veto-proof, because the GOP will stand firm and McConnell won’t let it on the floor. After all, 42 Republicans supported the Russians this week, including Mitt, the worthless coward. These same POS members of the GOP will support the wall.

That applies to whatever “plan” Trump asks for here.

I was referring to the CR attempt that passed the Senate but the Paul Ryan House balked on, that’s been the Democrats’ message this whole time, they’ve offered nearly the same exact CR.

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KingKenrod  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:13:46am

Dems can’t accept the wall as a condition for re-opening the govt under any circumstances. They lose if they play his game.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:14:31am

re: #411 KingKenrod

Dems can’t accept the wall as a condition for re-opening the govt under any circumstances. They lose if they play his game.

I’m hoping they realize that this stupid wall is the reason they got elected - as in, nobody wants it, and we voted in people who don’t want it. They have to hold the line, or we all lose faith.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:15:12am

re: #378 Belafon

So, do we think Buzzfeed just jumped to conclusions - that Cohen doing exactly what Trump wanted could have only happened if Trump told him - or do we think Buzzfeed was fed something misleading?

im guessing buzzfeed and the SC statements are both true
each in their own way

i dont think buzzfeed got it wrong (though it’s possible. more likely some details may not be 100%)

and the sc statement is wonderfully nuanced and interpretable by all of us who have no actual inside information with which to gauge it

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:15:14am

re: #401 Ace Rothstein

If there is one square inch for a wall in this “deal,” Pelosi should get up, say “bye bye,” and walk out.

Trumps next wall should be 4 sided with 2 square meals a day and 2 hours yard time.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:17:13am

re: #383 Belafon

What Trump-McConnell-Jared are hoping to do is to change the narrative by wanting to claim Democrats are hypocrites by not accepting what they offered before. As much as the government needs to reopen, the GOP shutting down government to try to get what they want has to end, and it especially has to end for Trump. I would take it if and only if Trump on camera states that he will no longer shut down the government over the wall.

let’s not be charlie brown here….

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:18:11am

re: #386 Eclectic Cyborg

Right because otherwise government reopens, Trump gets his wall money and then promptly tells the Dems “screw you, I’m not doing DACA.”

Tell me that isn’t a Trump move all the way.

i get playing out the scenarios

let’s remember, nancy is not new at this

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:18:18am

If the Dems don’t take the deal Trump will inevitably say something like: “I made Chuck and Nancy a very fair, very good offer but they still don’t care about the security of the American people and are continuing to put your children at risk. Tell them ‘no more!’ “

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:19:35am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

If the Dems don’t take the deal Trump will inevitably say something like: “I made Chuck and Nancy a very fair, very good offer but they still don’t care about the security of the American people and are continuing to put your children at risk. Tell them ‘no more!’ “

And that’s fine, but nobody’s buying that line, and I think the GOP is - very, very slowly - starting to realize that. (They are kinda thick, after all.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:19:36am

re: #412 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m hoping they realize that this stupid wall is the reason they got elected - as in, nobody wants it, and we voted in people who don’t want it. They have to hold the line, or we all lose faith.

They got elected for many reasons — and the primary reason was health care. That is what they pushed nationwide. Yes — most of the people elected don’t want it, but I don’t think that had as big an impact as other reasons.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:21:22am

re: #401 Ace Rothstein

If there is one square inch for a wall in this “deal,” Pelosi should get up, say “bye bye,” and walk out.

he has yet to realize how he has already lost this forever

he’s not ever getting a ‘2000 mile wall’ (that mexico pays for or not)

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:23:09am

re: #414 Unshaken Defiance

Trump will only want about 10 minutes yard time. Go out, look directly at the sun, go in.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:23:15am

re: #410 Myron Falwell

That applies to whatever “plan” Trump asks for here.

I was referring to the CR attempt that passed the Senate but the Paul Ryan House balked on, that’s been the Democrats’ message this whole time, they’ve offered nearly the same exact CR.

But that doesn’t matter. They voted for it because Trump promised he would sign it. Now he won’t. Trump contradicts himself on a daily basis but the GOP base doesn’t care and neither do the profiles in cowardice that populate the Republican Senate. Or maybe I’m being too generous here — maybe it’s not that they are cowards, but rather that they are unprincipled anti-democratic lice who really do like Putin and his brand of autocracy.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:24:12am

re: #411 KingKenrod

Dems can’t accept the wall as a condition for re-opening the govt under any circumstances. They lose if they play his game.

the first line is true
they still do have to negotiate

and that means both sides giving something and getting something
(do i have to add in good faith)

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:24:15am
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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:24:29am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:24:48am

re: #411 KingKenrod

re: #412 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Democrats know he’s totally incapable of being anything short of a competent negotiator. He’s fucking clueless.

Even if Trump opens the government for three weeks of “negotiations” just offer what they’ve always offered, even without DACA. Put the pressure on Mitch to cave.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:24:53am

What climate change? The last human almost had enough air from the last tree uncut.

facebook.com

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:25:30am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

If the Dems don’t take the deal Trump will inevitably say something like: “I made Chuck and Nancy a very fair, very good offer but they still don’t care about the security of the American people and are continuing to put your children at risk. Tell them ‘no more!’ “

and our response:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:26:12am

re: #424 jaunte

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Because Mitt’s all about Mitt.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:27:25am

Threatening to declare an emergency makes no sense. Either it’s an emergency or not.

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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:29:28am

My friend has crystalized my thoughts eloquently.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:30:06am

re: #406 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s say Schumer suddenly wanted to cave and give Trump his wall money. Can he do that and get a bill through without involvement from Pelosi?

If Schumer is stupid enough to believe that Trump will actually fulfill his part of the deal then we are fucked cubed.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:30:53am

Trump is somehow thinking that DACA is important enough for the Democrats to fold on. Boy is he going to be in for a surprise lol

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:31:36am

re: #432 Skip Intro

If Schumer is stupid enough to believe that Trump will actually fulfill his part of the deal then we are fucked cubed.

Not really. Remember, anything that the Senate votes on then has to be reconciled with the House before it can be approved. And while Schumer may have a moment of political weakness, Pelosi is not about to give in.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:34:01am

Sarah Kendzior is close to my idea of a perfect woman. She is smart, beautiful, loves to write, has a good sense of humor and just seems like a really cool person to be around.

(Yes, I know she’s married)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:34:19am

re: #430 I Would Prefer Not To

Threatening to declare an emergency makes no sense. Either it’s an emergency or not.

You can only do that when you are the emergency.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:35:11am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:37:07am

re: #437 jaunte

Nailed it.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:37:08am

re: #406 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s say Schumer suddenly wanted to cave and give Trump his wall money. Can he do that and get a bill through without involvement from Pelosi?

The fact that Schumer hasn’t given in already is more than shocking. Pretty clear that Pelosi’s been preventing him at nearly every turn.

If he holds firm on this, then…

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William Lewis  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:39:17am

re: #430 I Would Prefer Not To

Threatening to declare an emergency makes no sense. Either it’s an emergency or not.

You know this.
I know this.
But we’re talking about the Mango Moron here…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:39:40am

re: #440 William Lewis

You know this.
I know this.
But we’re talking about the Mango Moron here…

“Son, you know that, and I know that. But the General doesn’t know that. Or at least he won’t, for another hour and a half.”

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Teddy's Person  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:39:44am

Proof that Trump is truly pathetic, part the infinity.

Stop me if you’ve heard this one. WaPo reporter, Dan Balz is dining in a Paris restaurant. A man (Joe Kernen of CNBC) sitting at the next table hands him a cellphone and asks if he wants to talk with the President. Trump was supposed to do an interview with Kernen at DAVOS and called to express his disappointment that the shutdown cancelled the interview. Kernen told Trump that people in Paris were saying good things about him, and apparently, Trump asked to talk to one of his supporters.

When Balz took the phone, Trump didn’t know he was talking to a reporter. Balz tried to ask him some questions to get a newsworthy response. Sensing that he wasn’t talking to a Trumpbot, Trump asked Balz if he was a Trump or Hilary supporter. Balz revealed that he was a reporter. At this point, Balz heard other people laughing and realized he was on speakerphone. The call lasted about 2 minutes and ended when Kernen wanted his phone and the call back.

JFC

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:40:18am

here’s another view of the smug asshole at the native american protest. Can we add the kids pic to the list of most punch-able faces? I hope the video surfaces when he’s applying to college.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:42:45am

re: #443 I Would Prefer Not To

Teenagers who are bused to DC every year to help their parents purposefully interfere in women’s lives.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:46:19am

re: #443 I Would Prefer Not To

“With a Spirit that Will Not Die! Educating Young Men Spiritually, Academically, Physically and Socially.”

Yeah, right.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:46:33am

re: #434 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Not really. Remember, anything that the Senate votes on then has to be reconciled with the House before it can be approved. And while Schumer may have a moment of political weakness, Pelosi is not about to give in.

This. It’s going to be a three-week battle between the House and Senate over this. While the Senate will be taking Trump’s “plan” outright, this is now a Pelosi-McConnell fight. And I like her odds.

The so-called “dealer” has to take himself out of the deal-making in order to save himself, surprising no one at all.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:50:06am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:50:30am

re: #439 Myron Falwell

The fact that Schumer hasn’t given in already is more than shocking. Pretty clear that Pelosi’s been preventing him at nearly every turn.

If he holds firm on this, then…

Just stop. Schumer made some disadvantageous deals at a time when the Dems had no leverage at all. This has changed.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:52:02am

re: #448 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Just stop. Schumer made some disadvantageous deals at a time when the Dems had no leverage at all. This has changed.

Yup. I’m not worried about this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:53:15am

re: #447 jaunte

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Indeed. Even when I briefly did lean anti-abortion, I hated hated hated that crap.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:54:51am

re: #406 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s say Schumer suddenly wanted to cave and give Trump his wall money. Can he do that and get a bill through without involvement from Pelosi?

Short answer is no. The correct Democratic response to this offer from the GOP is that the government should be reopened immediately so that negotiations can begin, and that’s what I expect to hear from both Pelosi and Schumer.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:55:53am
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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:56:14am
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gwangung  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:56:15am

re: #443 I Would Prefer Not To

here’s another view of the smug asshole at the native american protest. Can we add the kids pic to the list of most punch-able faces? I hope the video surfaces when he’s applying to college.

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Heard there were some chants of “Build the Wall.”

I’m OK with shaming these twits in public; they made an ass of themselves in public, so they can do their penance in public.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:57:48am

re: #244 freetoken

They are creationist because of course they are:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:58:12am

re: #454 gwangung

Heard there were some chants of “Build the Wall.”

I’m OK with shaming these twits in public; they made an ass of themselves in public, so they can do their penance in public.

Yeah I see a lot of people complaining about public shaming. These guys chose to not only do this in public but while representing their school. They definitely deserve scorn.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2019 • 9:58:36am

re: #453 jaunte

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It’s a very backass backwards view.

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Alephnaught  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:00:56am

re: #78 teleskiguy

He’s gleefully whipping up the mouth breathers.

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Am I the only one thinking that’ it”s not a coincidence that Mueller’s team took the highly unusual decision to make a statement about the BuzzFeed article not after the article was aired, but after the President of the United States further threatened Michael Cohen’s father-in-law in a highly public fashion on Twitter?

Moreover, seeing as the statement is so vague as resemble a non-denial denial… Could Mueller’s team be testing the waters with this statement to see how their targets react?

If so, this tweet by Trump is pretty damning, as it totally fits in with the pattern of obstruction.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:01:30am

re: #443 I Would Prefer Not To

here’s another view of the smug asshole at the native american protest. Can we add the kids pic to the list of most punch-able faces? I hope the video surfaces when he’s applying to college.

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Of course they had to be from Kentucky.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:01:35am

re: #445 Ace RothsteinHere is a Covington Catholic pep rally; seems to show about the same spirit and Christ-like love that the boys brought to DC with them - 2017 Covington Catholic Pep Rally Video

“With a Spirit that Will Not Die! Educating Young Men Spiritually, Academically, Physically and Socially.”

Yeah, right.

re: #443 I Would Prefer Not To

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:02:02am

re: #443 I Would Prefer Not To

here’s another view of the smug asshole at the native american protest. Can we add the kids pic to the list of most punch-able faces? I hope the video surfaces when he’s applying to college.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:02:17am

re: #457 HappyWarrior

These are Trump’s Hitler Youth, pushing for their Lebensborn program.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:03:40am

I wonder if this guy was allowed to ride on the bus? Former Covington Catholic player Jake Walter charged with rape, sodomy

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:04:51am

re: #462 jaunte

These are Trump’s Hitler Youth, pushing for their Lebensborn program.

Tomorrow belongs to me Cabaret

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:05:40am

re: #443 I Would Prefer Not To

here’s another view of the smug asshole at the native american protest. Can we add the kids pic to the list of most punch-able faces? I hope the video surfaces when he’s applying to college.

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The problem with Catholic schools these days is there are not enough old school nuns and priests involved in them as there used to be.

I can’t see the nuns and priests I had during the 60s and early 70s allowing that jerk to get in the face of the Native American like that. They would have walked right over to him and yanked him away giving him the what for in front of all his idiot friends.

Then when they all got back to school, they would have gotten an hour of detention every day for a week and had to write a 10 page report on why Native Americans deserve their respect.

Sure the Catholic Church has its issues, but they used to teach respect above all else. At least that was how it was done at my school in my time.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:06:05am

re: #412 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m hoping they realize that this stupid wall is the reason they got elected - as in, nobody wants it, and we voted in people who don’t want it. They have to hold the line, or we all lose faith.

The wall wasn’t why they got elected other than it’s one part of the Trump stupidity.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:06:17am

The Native elder, harrassed by the Catholic school boy mob, is Nathan Phillips, an Omaha elder who is also a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance. He is also a keeper of a sacred pipe and holds an annual ceremony honoring Native American veterans in the Arlington National Cemetery.

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Teukka  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:07:01am

re: #462 jaunte

These are Trump’s Hitler Youth, pushing for their Lebensborn program.

Yep. Guess another place where abortion was outlawed? Mind you, the ban was only for pure Aryan children.
Fetuses that came to be in the field brothels? Another story…

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gwangung  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:07:33am

re: #467 Teddy’s Person

The Native elder, harrassed by the Catholic school boy mob, is Nathan Phillips, an Omaha elder who is also a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance. He is also a keeper of a sacred pipe and holds an annual ceremony honoring Native American veterans in the Arlington National Cemetery.

The very LEAST the school should do is to invite Mr. Phillips to their school, have a day of teaching and interaction with students and INDIVIDUAL apologies with every student in that pack.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:07:52am

re: #467 Teddy’s Person

The Native elder, harrassed by the Catholic school boy mob, is Nathan Phillips, an Omaha elder who is also a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance. He is also a keeper of a sacred pipe and holds an annual ceremony honoring Native American veterans in the Arlington National Cemetery.

My God.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:08:19am

re: #443 I Would Prefer Not To

here’s another view of the smug asshole at the native american protest. Can we add the kids pic to the list of most punch-able faces? I hope the video surfaces when he’s applying to college.

[Embedded content]

I tweeted to the Pope and asked for his personal attention to it. I think everyone should.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:08:30am

re: #467 Teddy’s Person

Fucking little red hat shit heads.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:09:56am

Covington Catholic High School dierctory
Pages of staff members and email addresses.
You may have to refresh each page. It appears their pages have sen a serious spike in activity.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:12:36am

re: #467 Teddy’s Person

The Native elder, harrassed by the Catholic school boy mob, is Nathan Phillips, an Omaha elder who is also a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance. He is also a keeper of a sacred pipe and holds an annual ceremony honoring Native American veterans in the Arlington National Cemetery.

Don’t even look at the comments, ffs

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:12:46am

re: #473 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Out of a staff of 82 educators, every single one is white.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:12:53am

re: #469 gwangung

The very LEAST the school should do is to invite Mr. Phillips to their school, have a day of teaching and interaction with students and INDIVIDUAL apologies with every student in that pack.

I’d add some manditory public service for the Fucking little red hat shit heads (h/t Ace Rothstein).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:13:06am

re: #466 Belafon

The wall wasn’t why they got elected other than it’s one part of the Trump stupidity.

The wall had pretty much disappeared as an issue until wingnut pundits bullied Trump into initiating this fake crisis.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:13:54am

re: #474 Myron Falwell

Don’t even look at the comments, ffs

I did not get out of the boat. Read the article and skedaddled.

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fern01  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:13:58am

re: #385 Hecuba’s daughter

However, if DACA is clearly written as part of the legislation, they might be forced to implement it. OTOH I could see this criminal enterprise writing regulations that would in effect nullify the law.

trump walks around regulations like no other president has even ventured to look. He ignores legislation he disagrees with (sanctions), he keeps writing regulations to gut the ACA. The dems can’t trust him in any way at all.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:15:02am

re: #448 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Just stop. Schumer made some disadvantageous deals at a time when the Dems had no leverage at all. This has changed.

Schumer is a wimp seems to have stuck and I still do not understand why. Maybe the SNL depiction has stuck.

He took over the Senate Leadership during a Republican majority. How was he supposed to be Harry Reid who had a majority Senate, House and President to work with for a good portion of his leadership?

Plus, he has only been Senate Leader for two years under both Republic majorities and the MAGA crowd. How would anyone else do with that pack of political garbage to work with and around?

And, if everyone loved Harry so damn much, then accept Harry endorsed Chuck to be the leader and he was voted into the position.

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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:15:24am

re: #475 Ace Rothstein

Gosh, what a surprise.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:15:28am

Make Catholicism Great Again!

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:16:07am

re: #415 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

let’s not be charlie brown here….

You are correct, but I think Trump has begun to damage his brand this time. Republicans and independents have actually started blaming him. But I think he should be required to do it in a tutu riding a unicycle.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:16:11am

re: #481 plansbandc

Trump’s America.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:16:17am

re: #475 Ace Rothstein

Out of a staff of 82 educators, every single one is white.

See my surprised face.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:17:16am

re: #475 Ace Rothstein

Out of a staff of 82 educators, every single one is white.

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fern01  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:17:26am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

If the Dems don’t take the deal Trump will inevitably say something like: “I made Chuck and Nancy a very fair, very good offer but they still don’t care about the security of the American people and are continuing to put your children at risk. Tell them ‘no more!’ “

That line failed about 3 weeks ago. He has lost that argument again and again. This is a shutdown owned by trump - and increasingly McConnell.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:18:24am

re: #480 ObserverArt

Schumer is a wimp seems to have stuck and I still do not understand why. Maybe the SNL depiction has stuck.

He took over the Senate Leadership during a Republican majority. How was he supposed to be Harry Reid who had a majority Senate, House and President to work with for a good portion of his leadership?

Plus, he has only been Senate Leader for two years under both Republic majorities and the MAGA crowd. How would anyone else do with that pack of political garbage to work with and around?

And, if everyone loved Harry so damn much, then accept Harry endorsed Chuck to be the leader and he was voted into the position.

It definitely hurt his image when he reached that deal with McConnell to fast track judicial nominees.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:19:03am

Oh No You Don’t.

Upper East Side Restaurant Nello Bans Single Women From Eating At The Bar

Of course, there are layers of shittiness to unpack here. It’s not just the fact that at this so-called “sophisticated” establishment, all unaccompanied, attractive women are unquestionably considered sex workers, it’s also the fact that there’s a “sex worker seating policy” in the first place. Shouldn’t a professional woman (in any field?) who can afford her meal be allowed to eat where she pleases?

The answer is yes - and it most definitely shouldn’t be here.

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Alephnaught  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:20:13am

re: #226 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You’re not all related to Kevin Bacon? I am disappoint!

For the record, myself and a couple of friends of mine are two degrees of Kevin Bacon. (We were extras in an indie movie where the lead supporting actress had co-starred with Bacon.)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:21:44am

re: #489 Unshaken Defiance

Oh No You Don’t.

Upper East Side Restaurant Nello Bans Single Women From Eating At The Bar

I’m pretty sure this is illegal.

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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:24:23am

re: #489 Unshaken Defiance

What in the blithering fuck?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:25:27am

re: #492 plansbandc

What in the blithering fuck?

single woman=prostitute, and therefore must be publicly shamed.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:27:00am

re: #489 Unshaken Defiance

Oh No You Don’t.

Upper East Side Restaurant Nello Bans Single Women From Eating At The Bar

Welcome to 19th century NYC.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:27:12am

re: #480 ObserverArt

Schumer is a wimp seems to have stuck and I still do not understand why. Maybe the SNL depiction has stuck.

He took over the Senate Leadership during a Republican majority. How was he supposed to be Harry Reid who had a majority Senate, House and President to work with for a good portion of his leadership?

Plus, he has only been Senate Leader for two years under both Republic majorities and the MAGA crowd. How would anyone else do with that pack of political garbage to work with and around?

And, if everyone loved Harry so damn much, then accept Harry endorsed Chuck to be the leader and he was voted into the position.

He’s been as effective as he can be at shutting down McConnell while taking care of the other Senators.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:28:20am

re: #482 Eclectic Cyborg

Make Catholicism Great Again!

In a way you bring up a good point. Those little creeps should be told that a majority of the people that wear the MAGA hats do not like Catholics. They are a cult to many Evangelicals. Catholics were hated when many of their great grandparents came to this country.

They can learn that in the detention hours every day for a week.

497
Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:28:35am

re: #487 fern01

That line failed about 3 weeks ago. He has lost that argument again and again. This is a shutdown owned by trump - and increasingly McConnell.

And the fact that it’s starting to burn Yertle is why they huddled.

498
jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:29:36am

re: #490 Alephnaught

For the record, myself and a couple of friends of mine are two degrees of Kevin Bacon. (We were extras in an indie movie where the lead supporting actress had co-starred with Bacon.)

Hey, me too. I was the 3,000th soldier on the far left in this thing: en.wikipedia.org

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:30:38am

re: #488 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It definitely hurt his image when he reached that deal with McConnell to fast track judicial nominees.

Yeah, I know. And we discussed that here before too.

I guess Schumer is a wimp is now the default setting.

Republicans fight to the death to protect a scum like Trump.

Democrats talk shit about a decent man named Schumer.

500
jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:31:58am
501
Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:33:47am

re: #491 NO SMOCKING GUN!

re: #492 plansbandc

Legally? Very unsure, it’s seating policy not a refusal to serve. Lawhawk, are you in da house?

But from every reasonable view, this is soaked through and through with what’s wrong with mens attitudes. About who sits at bars and why, about women in general and sex workers in particular.

502
jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:36:29am
503
Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:37:19am

re: #501 Unshaken Defiance

Legally? Very unsure, it’s seating policy not a refusal to serve. Lawhawk, are you in da house?

But from every reasonable view, this is soaked through and through with what’s wrong with mens attitudes. About who sits at bars and why, about women in general and sex workers in particular.

If they’re worried about prostitutes, then maybe they should also deal with the demand side, and not allow any man in who isn’t with his wife.

504
ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:39:04am

re: #500 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That is so sad. It clearly upset him and for no damn reason.

Fuck those little punks. I hope that school gets hammered for years for apparently not teaching those creeps respect for your fellow man, which should be a core of their curriculum. That school is a failure.

505
Dave In Austin  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:39:13am
506
Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:39:20am

re: #502 jaunte

507
plansbandc  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:41:13am

re: #500 jaunte

I can’t watch this. It will make me cry, and I fear I wouldn’t stop for days.

Fuck what’s happening to this country. I want to live somewhere else.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:42:31am

re: #497 Belafon

And the fact that it’s starting to burn Yertle is why they huddled.

Yep, they have to save Mitch’s sorry ass too. And they know it. He’s blown it as badly as Trump has.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:43:04am
510
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:43:20am
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sagehen  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:43:26am

re: #454 gwangung

Heard there were some chants of “Build the Wall.”

I’m OK with shaming these twits in public; they made an ass of themselves in public, so they can do their penance in public.

Seriously? “Build the Wall” chanted at people whose ancestors have been here since before Stonehenge and Pyramids were built?

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:44:08am

re: #501 Unshaken Defiance

Legally? Very unsure, it’s seating policy not a refusal to serve. Lawhawk, are you in da house?

But from every reasonable view, this is soaked through and through with what’s wrong with mens attitudes. About who sits at bars and why, about women in general and sex workers in particular.

I bet Nello serves a paleo diet menu, because that would be close to what a fucking caveman who runs the place would eat.

513
jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:44:16am
514
Belafon  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:45:51am
515
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:47:46am

ULA Delta IV NROL-71 Live Launch Broadcast is live. 17 minutes to launch

Jan. 19 Delta IV NROL-71 Live Launch Broadcast - Begins 10:45 a.m. PST

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:48:44am

“…I work at a university that was built on the site of a Catholic boarding school for Indians, where children were ripped from their families to learn white man’s ways and follow the Pope, and this is a history we earnestly feel here — we have reminders all over the school of that legacy. Seeing little Catholic assholes shitting all over other people fills me with anger.

And despair. Look at those faces. Someday you’ll see them again in Congress, and on the Supreme Court, and maybe even the presidency. Because that’s where they’re confident they deserve to go.”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:49:21am

re: #514 Belafon

lol Eric is 100% right, whatever Trump does at 3pm doesn’t change the fact that Pelosi and Schumer can unequivocally continue to call his bluff. They have and it’s hurting him bigly bad.

But it’s also the early stages of the media trying to help Trump mitigate an obvious defeat in the making, so it’s not unexpected.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:49:59am

re: #510 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Glad I caught your comment. Logged in and ready for a rocket launch. I hope it is a go.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:50:00am

re: #499 ObserverArt

Yeah, I know. And we discussed that here before too.

I guess Schumer is a wimp is now the default setting.

Republicans fight to the death to protect a scum like Trump.

Democrats talk shit about a decent man named Schumer.

Kind of like the image of the French as “surrender monkeys.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:51:39am

re: #501 Unshaken Defiance

Legally? Very unsure, it’s seating policy not a refusal to serve. Lawhawk, are you in da house?

But from every reasonable view, this is soaked through and through with what’s wrong with mens attitudes. About who sits at bars and why, about women in general and sex workers in particular.

A policy that lets men sit wherever they want but bars single women from sitting at the bar? Sounds illegal to me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:53:46am

re: #518 ObserverArt

Glad I caught your comment. Logged in and ready for a rocket launch. I hope it is a go.

I’m actually watching the broadcast with Everyday Astronaut

Watch ULA launch a top secret satellite on their Delta IV Heavy!

522
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:54:51am

A reminder. You only get to watch so much of this launch mission

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:55:18am

re: #508 Myron Falwell

Yep, they have to save Mitch’s sorry ass too. And they know it. He’s blown it as badly as Trump has.

Yurtle has to find a way out that saves Trump’s face. He’s afraid of being primaried next year, and he can’t allow any daylight between himself and Trump.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:57:22am

re: #521 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m actually watching the broadcast with Everyday Astronaut

[Embedded content]

Looks like the same feed as at YouTube under United Launch Alliance. Just glad we get to watch these launches.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:58:04am

re: #519 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Kind of like the image of the French as “surrender monkeys.”

Didn’t that line originate with Groundskeeper Willie? (lol the second Simpsons reference on this thread)

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Chrysicat  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:58:26am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:59:12am

re: #514 Belafon

[Embedded content]

They are just dying for any Democrat to suggest giving Trump some money for his damn wall so that they can run the “Democrats in disarray!” article you know they already have queued up.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 19, 2019 • 10:59:58am

re: #523 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yurtle has to find a way out that saves Trump’s face. He’s afraid of being primaried next year, and he can’t allow any daylight between himself and Trump.

Matt Bevin tried to primary Mitch in 2014. Don’t think he can’t/won’t do it again, especially after a few popular years of fucking up Kentucky as governor.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 19, 2019 • 11:04:31am

re: #524 ObserverArt

Looks like the same feed as at YouTube under United Launch Alliance. Just glad we get to watch these launches.

Yeah, but he adds some “rocket fan” element to the broadcast.

We’re in a hold, launch adjusted looks like 11:10 AM PT

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2019 • 11:39:08am

re: #365 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump is using the Dreamers as hostages for his fucking wall money.

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Except last time the REPUBLICANS reneged on it. Fuck trump and his negotiating with himself bullshit.


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