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Patricia Kayden  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:15:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:20:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:22:38pm

oh…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:23:08pm

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:24:42pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Explain the eyes and lips kid. You can show school spirit without looking like you’re in a minstrel show.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:25:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:25:46pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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She should pander like Bernie and I guess that would be okay.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:26:55pm

LOLOLOLOL!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:27:15pm

re: #6 Myron Falwell

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It’s why Little Big Man is my favorite Western. One of the few that portrayed First Nations like human beings. Plus Chief Dan George and I have the same birthday so that’s cool too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:28:48pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

LOLOLOLOL!

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Lumpy shilling for billionaires is really showing who he really represents. And uh Lumpy not every billionaire is “policy” oriented, a lot of em like to hoard like the men that get an idiot like you to convince other idiots that AOC is their enemy.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:29:33pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Where can I get that?

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:32:05pm

Building a coalition is hard.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:33:06pm

re: #12 Single-handed sailor

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Building a coalition is hard.

Worst at coalition building than W.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:33:07pm

re: #12 Single-handed sailor

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Building a coalition is hard.

Bully a country and they’ll tell you to fuck off.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:33:34pm

re: #14 MsJ

Bully a country and they’ll tell you to fuck off.

Yep and then he cries that they’re taking advantage of us.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:35:06pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

LOLOLOLOL!

AOC is living rent-free in the hard right’s minds and she’s having the time of her life.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:35:39pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Worst at coalition building than W.

re: #14 MsJ

Bully a country and they’ll tell you to fuck off.

The funny thing is, Bush was able to bully countries into Iraq because he knew how to use US power. Trump has no clue.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:36:08pm

re: #16 Myron Falwell

AOC is living rent-free in the hard right’s minds and she’s having the time of her life.

She really does. I remember the right insisted we were of Palin but this is how actual terrified looks.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:37:00pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Worst at coalition building than W.

At least W. had Tony Blair.

That whole thing about Trump wanting to leave NATO and fumbling away Syria to please Putin is probably not helping this cause IMO.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:37:21pm

I only use King Arthur Flour.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:37:34pm

re: #17 Belafon

The funny thing is, Bush was able to bully countries into Iraq because he knew how to use US power. Trump has no clue.

Very true. Man to think how much worse he’d be if he had a clue.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:37:55pm

re: #19 Myron Falwell

At least W. had Tony Blair.

That whole thing about Trump wanting to leave NATO and fumbling away Syria to please Putin is probably not helping this cause IMO.

Absolutely.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:38:12pm

Watching a bit of Rachel Maddow’s interview with Kamala Harris.

One thing i am liking, so far all of the candidates seem to be holding to the same message points.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:40:01pm

re: #17 Belafon

The funny thing is, Bush was able to bully countries into Iraq because he knew how to use US power. Trump has no clue.

For which, I suppose, we should be grateful. Imagine the global authoritarian takeover of they weren’t colossal dopes.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:40:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:41:06pm

re: #25 Belafon

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Hey why not. The Republicans let Trump be their nominee. Why not have Cardi B do the response.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:41:14pm

Irony, like rain on your wedding day or something.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:42:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:42:59pm

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

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Irony, like rain on your wedding day or something.

So what? Thanks to his shutdown, the state of the union is horrible.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:43:32pm

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

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Irony, like rain on your wedding day or something.

You can write something and have it read on the floor just like every President until Wilson did before you. But that would involve actual work rather than letting Stephen Miller vomit shit.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:43:47pm

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

Irony, like rain on your wedding day or something.

Like a free ride when you’ve already paid?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:45:56pm

da prezidendt wants youse should shaddap

SO SHADDAP

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:47:37pm

With the never ending calamity in Washington, DC, I’ve fallen behind in other news. Here’s Rahaf Mohammed’s statement to the press from Jan 15.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:48:10pm

re: #24 MsJ

For which, I suppose, we should be grateful. Imagine the global authoritarian takeover of they weren’t colossal dopes.

my epitaph for the trump entity after he’s gone is this:

The Next One Won’t Be A Clown

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:48:19pm

re: #12 Single-handed sailor

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Building a coalition is hard.

Why would anyone work with Trump?

Maybe our Republican Senators can learn something here.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:49:25pm
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Belafon  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:51:30pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:53:12pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

What would I say? I’d say this: You guys are the ones that let them get from the southern border to the northern one, so either you went to the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy or you’re a bunch of fucking cowards and liars.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:54:09pm

re: #37 Belafon

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My family has a greater chance of being killed by a wingnut who doesn’t know how to use a gun responsibly.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:54:11pm

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

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Irony, like rain on your wedding day or something.

Gee, and you’re denying federal workers the ability to earn a paycheck and support their own families as well as denying US citizens their right to a functioning and functional government, all because of your childish tantrums.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:56:39pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

My family has a greater chance of being killed by a wingnut who doesn’t know how to use a gun responsibly.

Or one who uses his car to run over and murder those whose message he doesn’t like.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:56:44pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

I’m not afraid of exhausted and starving 8-year-olds, would be my answer.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:57:16pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

My family has a greater chance of being killed by a wingnut who doesn’t know how to use a gun responsibly.

Yep. I’d feel safer with some of the refugees than a number of my neighbors.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:57:26pm

As seen on FB

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 6:58:29pm

Lre: #43 Belafon

Yep. I’d feel safer with some of the refugees than a number of my neighbors.

Easily.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:00:02pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

I only use King Arthur Flour.

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I still remember the day mom found a cigarette butt in a sack of Gold Medal flour.

She dumped the sack and never bought it again. She swore by King Arthur Flour.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:02:16pm

You know, it’s funny that wingners are always calling liberals bussies because some of us (not all of us) either don’t like or own guns. We’re not the ones who buy things like the stupid poison skittle analogy that reduces human beings to candy.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:03:44pm

re: #46 Joe Bacon 🌹

I still remember the day mom found a cigarette butt in a sack of Gold Medal flour.

She dumped the sack and never bought it again. She swore by King Arthur Flour.

My mpm did, too, but not because of foreign objects in the Gold Medal flour. IIRC she used Gold medal for pancakes, waffles and cookies. King Arthur was for bread making.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:04:09pm

Jazz birthday bulletin

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:07:29pm

re: #49 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Jazz birthday bulletin

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One of my all time favorites. I know what I’m sleeping to tonight. Happy Birthday, Django.

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plansbandc  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:10:47pm

Dude’s accountant used to send him all that virulent anti Muslim propaganda. (This was about 10 or so years ago.) He (dude) started believing the BS.

I said to him he was smarter than that. It’s propaganda. If you’re going to read it, research what it says. And then I said to him that I was way more scared of the far right Christian nutters bombing abortion clinics and shooting up crowds than I have ever been of Muslims.

He figured it out.

I have a friend who is just stunned that I can defend Islam. I told him I could never condemn a whole religion, though the Christian right makes me consider it. He thinks all Muslims are terrorists. He’s not stupid, just propagandized by a good portion of our country. Told dude about it and he was like, “The whole religion isn’t to blame. It’s the radicals. So see? He gets it. I don’t think my friend ever will though.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:14:53pm

re: #48 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

My mpm did, too, but not because of foreign objects in the Gold Medal flour. IIRC she used Gold medal for pancakes, waffles and cookies. King Arthur was for bread making.

I noticed that Mom’s toll house cookies tasted different when she switched to King Arthur Flour. The cookies were more moist and chewy.

Mom always mixed Nestle’s chocolate and butterscotch chips when she made toll house cookies. I like that 50/50 mix!

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plansbandc  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:18:15pm

re: #52 Joe Bacon 🌹

Love butterscotch chip cookies. And rice crispy bars with butterscotch and chocolate chips.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:18:19pm

re: #48 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

My mpm did, too, but not because of foreign objects in the Gold Medal flour. IIRC she used Gold medal for pancakes, waffles and cookies. King Arthur was for bread making.

I use King Arthur blue bag for bread, and KA red bag for other baked goods. King Arthur sells all kinds of different flour on their website, including a bunch of gluten-free varieties, as well as different mixes, extracts, flavors and baking equipment.

Z asked me, “why do they sell all these mixes when their target customers are serious “from scratch” home bakers?”

I said, “The mixes are for the daughters-in-law.”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:18:31pm

SMOTI somehow strikes again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:20:38pm

re: #53 plansbandc

Love butterscotch chip cookies. And rice crispy bars with butterscotch and chocolate chips.

Pro-tip: if you use butterscotch chips instead of chocolate, use about 25% less sugar because butterscotch (or caramel) chips are super sweet!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:23:58pm

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

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Irony, like rain on your wedding day or something.

Uh, he addressed the American people on primetime like a week and a half ago.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:24:04pm

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

Pro-tip: if you use butterscotch chips instead of chocolate, use about 25% less sugar because butterscotch (or caramel) chips are super sweet!

That’s why I really liked Mom’s formula because of the sweetness!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:24:59pm

Mmmmm five layer bars. We have em every Christmas Eve and New Years Eve.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:27:06pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

I use King Arthur blue bag for bread, and KA red bag for other baked goods.

Oh, that’s good to know. I think I’ve been using blue as a generic flour (well, mostly pizza crust these days, so probably why I didn’t notice). I should get some of the red and try some more baking again. I used to do more.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:29:02pm

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

Uh, he addressed the American people on primetime like a week and a half ago.

He’s just mad because Pelosi won’t give it up for him.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:29:53pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

I use King Arthur blue bag for bread, and KA red bag for other baked goods. King Arthur sells all kinds of different flour on their website, including a bunch of gluten-free varieties, as well as different mixes, extracts, flavors and baking equipment.

Z asked me, “why do they sell all these mixes when their target customers are serious “from scratch” home bakers?”

I said, “The mixes are for the daughters-in-law.”

Mom may have used KA flour for stuff other than bread. It’s been too long that I can’t remember, and she’s not been available for comment for the last 24 years. But I do remember the KA flour-made bread have better texture and flavor. KA must source their wheat and mill it better than Gold Medal.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:29:58pm

This was in Jackson Hole today.

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And overnight @jacksonhole is back in the flow. @bowersjohn on the other side of camera today! ❄️💥

It wasn’t this deep at the ski area yesterday, but there was still face shots all day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:32:17pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:33:57pm

it me

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This past week has been rough. #powday #bishopshreds

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:34:54pm

re: #61 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s just mad because Pelosi won’t give it up for him.

Trump wants his podium in a symbolically important place, the House, just like every real president has done in the last several decades. Denying him access shows he’s not a real president, something that he already suspects and cannot admit.

And like Charles says, I am sure he doesn’t realize he is required to make a report to Congress. So, if he delays his report, he is again in dereliction of duty.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:35:19pm

Skiing in Japan, it’s on my bucket list.

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Morning tour vibe 😀 #japow

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TedStriker  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:38:40pm

re: #44 I Would Prefer Not To

As seen on FB

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:40:23pm

Cool freeheel training video.

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Sweet training video by @mansartseb of #ustelemark #athlete @skicosnyd training in the shadow of Mont Blonc 🇫🇷 had some good runs in the first couple days of the #fis #telemark #worldcup heading to @pralognanlavanoise next!! #keepitup #cheering #fistelemark #spreadtelemark #ustelemark @fistelemark #KarbonSports #22Designs #minus33merinowool #globalrescue #Saucerwax #telemarkdown @karbonsports @saucerwax @global_rescue @telemarkdown @minus33merinowool @22.designs

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:42:28pm

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

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Ninja level 10. @samkuch_ made is first turn of the day about 20m past the bottom of this photo. What happened before that was like watching the bull ride of the year. The kid’s got serious skills. #timetoplay

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:44:21pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

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24” storm.
72” week.
More snow on the way. 🙌
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📷: @leecohen_pics ⛷: @aengerbretson ❄️: @altaskiarea
#AltaMagic

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:45:18pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

The wall clearly needs to be built higher!

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:45:20pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

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Finding the goods out here❤️ also not falling in a crevasse.😜 @courmayeurmontblanc thanks for the pic @geppophotography 🙌

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retired cynic  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:45:27pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

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Is…. is… that guy skating on the tops of the TREES??

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:46:51pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

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Diamond dust -» Shimamaki, Japan • 📸 @tylerjhamlet #shimamakisnowcats

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:47:30pm

re: #74 retired cynic

Is…. is… that guy skating on the tops of the TREES??

Those are cliffs. We skiers call them pillow lines.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:48:44pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

Speaking of pillow lines…

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Tag a friend you would hit this pillow line with! @felixwiemers and @rohrmoserroman slaying some Euro-pow ❄️ #tgrlivethedream

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retired cynic  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:49:21pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

I know I said skate, which was stupid, but it looks like he is just skimming over the top of what looks like a snow filled forest.

I’ll go quietly now…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:49:34pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:50:56pm

re: #78 retired cynic

I’ll go quietly now…

No no no! Stay! And I’ll happily explain any confusing ski porn.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:51:06pm

Fucking A Alyssa! Right on.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:52:55pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

Another li’l clip from Japan.

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Approaching the lip I was nearly certain I was coming up short, double tip catch, to tomahawk over the pillow…[Jerry highlight reel averted]…but what’s the over under I landed this one…?? • Shimamaki, Japan -» @hokkaidobackcountryclub #shimamakisnowcats 🎥 @lawsonreif @gopro #hero7black

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:53:20pm

re: #49 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Jazz birthday bulletin

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Good reminder. I didn’t have any of his music somehow, so a quick pickup of his Greatest Hits fixes that. THanks!

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 7:58:09pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

Sorry not sorry for all the skiing crap. 😛

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The snow and soup were both very tasty today ❄️🍜 -» Shimamaki • @dragonalliance #shimamakisnowcats #gopro

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:00:14pm

re: #83 William Lewis

Good reminder. I didn’t have any of his music somehow, so a quick pickup of his Greatest Hits fixes that. THanks!

What do ya think? To me anyhow, I get images of pre Spanish Civil War Europe especially France or Spain and just listening to this over a fine wine or absinthe. It’s relaxing. I have it on now.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:03:27pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

My Instagram feed has some pure ski sex right now.

Dude, ski porn for days.

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Untracked. Getting an early start means blower pow before the sun starts affecting it. Definitely worth the effort for @sammocohen across the street from @altaskiarea. PHOTO: @leecohen_pics #PowderToThePeople #PowderInFocus

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coin operated  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:05:29pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

It’s called porn, bitch ;-)

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:05:53pm

Full pass on this book. Read this article and you’ll see why. A might self-serving. Also, fuck this guy.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:07:24pm

OK, I’ll stop.

It’s been that good this week for skiers gettin’ after it. I skied today and tracked out all kinds of untracked powder.

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William Lewis  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:10:03pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

What do ya think? To me anyhow, I get images of pre Spanish Civil War Europe especially France or Spain and just listening to this over a fine wine or absinthe. It’s relaxing. I have it on now.

I’ve always enjoyed listening to him, not sure how I didn’t have any before but it’s on now and am enjoying it too.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:10:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:12:06pm

re: #88 MsJ

Full pass on this book. Read this article and you’ll see why. A might self-serving. Also, fuck this guy.

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Kind of supports my belief that her and George are hedging their bets on the Trump experiment. By taking both sides of it, they win.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:12:09pm

I was in a place where I couldn’t post when Venezuela was discussed downstairs, but DT’s base is isolationist af, so if he’s looking to strengthen his core constituency’s approval, I seriously doubt this will do it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:13:54pm

re: #90 William Lewis

I’ve always enjoyed listening to him, not sure how I didn’t have any before but it’s on now and am enjoying it too.

I heard his tunes first in a video game and had seen him listed as a great guitarist in a magazine. I was curious since he was born in 1910 and not an American blues guitarist. Fell in love with the sound immediately.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:14:42pm

re: #91 Single-handed sailor

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America’s corporate leaders are idiots.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:16:31pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

OK, I’ll stop.

It’s been that good this week for skiers gettin’ after it. I skied today and tracked out all kinds of untracked powder.

I have a question for you.

Is there a depth of powder snow that will not support you? Or does the snow compact enough that with the addition of the speed of the skis you only go into it so deep?

I can understand a fairly hard base and maybe 20” of powder and blowing through it. But I always wondered if you could go into deep powder and end up in over your head.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:19:32pm

re: #83 William Lewis

Good reminder. I didn’t have any of his music somehow, so a quick pickup of his Greatest Hits fixes that. THanks!

Django was way ahead of his time. He was doing string bends and shredding his ass off many years before guitar heroes were a thing. With two fingers.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:19:33pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

America’s corporate leaders are idiots.

It sure looks that way.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:22:30pm

re: #97 makeitstop

Django was way ahead of his time. He was doing string bends and shredding his ass off many years before guitar heroes were a thing. With two fingers.

Yeah incredible what he did. His music has a very clsssy sound to it but a certain rawness tooZ

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:27:28pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

America’s corporate leaders are idiots.

That’s because American MBA’s are taught to maximize short term profits and not do long range planning.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:29:21pm

re: #100 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s because American MBA’s are taught to maximize short term profits and not do long range planning.

Which is why so many of them end up rock solid conservatives.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:31:34pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Which is why so many of them end up rock solid conservatives.

I read an article some years ago and it said that most CEOs were sociopaths where they don’t care about anything but money, getting ahead (which includes stepping on anyone on the way up), you get the picture.

THAT’S why they end up rock solid conservatives.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:32:11pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

I have a question for you.

Is there a depth of powder snow that will not support you?

That depends on the steepness of the slope being skied. Lower angle slopes are to be avoided when the fresh snow is deep. Many a snowboarder learned this lesson the hard way at Steamboat in Colorado. (giggle)

I can understand a fairly hard base and maybe 20” of powder and blowing through it. But I always wondered if you could go into deep powder and end up in over your head.

I’ve skied powder that went over my head. I’ll never forget that day as long as I live. It was truly the most fun one human can have.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:33:51pm

Moron

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:34:20pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Yeah incredible what he did. His music has a very clsssy sound to it but a certain rawness tooZ

He and his best friend and violinist, Stephan Grapelli, were wild men. They loved jamming over that crazy rhythm. For the era they played in, they had attitude and it shone through on every song.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:35:10pm

re: #102 MsJ

I read an article some years ago and it said that most CEOs were sociopaths where they don’t care about anything but money, getting ahead (which includes stepping on anyone on the way up), you get the picture.

THAT’S why they end up rock solid conservatives.

MBAs tho. But yeah that makes sense to me as well. There’s this ugly indifference to human welfare in executive corporate culture I despise.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:35:21pm

1 February 2008. Steamboat reported 29” new snow *overnight* at mid-mountain, 36” at the summit, with five m.p.h. winds.

I showed up to the gondola at noon. I then choked on snow for four hours.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:36:10pm

re: #104 MsJ

Moron

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Like a cheap suit, he folded.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:36:22pm

re: #105 makeitstop

He and his best friend and violinist, Stephan Grapelli, were wild men. They loved jamming over that crazy rhythm. For the era they played in, they had attitude and it shone through on every song.

It’s incredible. As I got at, it really inspires my imagination for that era.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:43:28pm

re: #108 makeitstop

Like a cheap suit, he folded.

Balled up and tossed into a corner.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:44:46pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:44:59pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

Speaking of pillow lines…

I’ve freeheel skied a few lines like this at Crested Butte and Vail Pass. My favorite on Vail Pass was called ‘Cupcakes’ ‘cause all the cliffs looked like cupcakes when they were covered in eight feet of snow.

This is me trying to fly over in Cupcakes a few years ago.

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ckkatz  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:47:58pm

re: #49 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Jazz birthday bulletin
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Interesting trivia from the wiki article on Django Reinhardt:

The Allman Brothers Band song “Jessica” was written by Dickey Betts in tribute to Gypsy jazz guitarist Django Reinhardt, in that it was designed to be played using only two fingers on the left hand.
en.wikipedia.org

Grateful Dead’s Jerry Garcia and Black Sabbath’s Tony Iommi, both of whom lost fingers in accidents, were inspired by Reinhardt’s example of becoming an accomplished guitar player despite his injuries.

Willie Nelson has been a lifelong Reinhardt fan, stating in his memoir, “This was a man who changed my musical life by giving me a whole new perspective on the guitar and, on an even more profound level, on my relationship with sound…During my formative years, as I listened to Django’s records, especially songs like ‘Nuages’ that I would play for the rest of my life, I studied his technique. Even more, I studied his gentleness. I love the human sound he gave his acoustic guitar.”

Reinhardt’s music has been used in the soundtrack of many films, including in The Matrix, Rhythm Futur, Daltry Calhoun, Metroland, Chocolat, The Aviator, Alex and the Gypsy, Kate and Leopold and Gattaca; the score for Louis Malle’s 1974 movie, Lacombe Lucien; the background for the Steve Martin movie L.A. Story; and the background for a number of Woody Allen movies, including Stardust Memories.

en.wikipedia.org

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:48:03pm

The Soviet Caucus.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:50:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:51:26pm

re: #113 ckkatz

Interesting trivia from the wiki article on Django Reinhardt:

The Allman Brothers Band song “Jessica” was written by Dickey Betts in tribute to Gypsy jazz guitarist Django Reinhardt, in that it was designed to be played using only two fingers on the left hand.
en.wikipedia.org

Grateful Dead’s Jerry Garcia and Black Sabbath’s Tony Iommi, both of whom lost fingers in accidents, were inspired by Reinhardt’s example of becoming an accomplished guitar player despite his injuries.

Willie Nelson has been a lifelong Reinhardt fan, stating in his memoir, “This was a man who changed my musical life by giving me a whole new perspective on the guitar and, on an even more profound level, on my relationship with sound…During my formative years, as I listened to Django’s records, especially songs like ‘Nuages’ that I would play for the rest of my life, I studied his technique. Even more, I studied his gentleness. I love the human sound he gave his acoustic guitar.”

Reinhardt’s music has been used in the soundtrack of many films, including in The Matrix, Rhythm Futur, Daltry Calhoun, Metroland, Chocolat, The Aviator, Alex and the Gypsy, Kate and Leopold and Gattaca; the score for Louis Malle’s 1974 movie, Lacombe Lucien; the background for the Steve Martin movie L.A. Story; and the background for a number of Woody Allen movies, including Stardust Memories.

en.wikipedia.org

I listened to some Robert Johnson last night, another musician’s musician. Was also listening to Jessica earlier by the Allmans.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:51:58pm

Don’t mind me. I’ve got skiing on the mind. And it has snowed four inches at the ski area since the lifts closed. And I don’t work tomorrow!

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:52:06pm
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ckkatz  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:54:41pm

re: #115 MsJ

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Yes, Joy Reid on Lawrence O’Donnell, pointed out that Congress has a fiduciary responsibility to not waste the public’s money. Then went into that statement. And, referring to those who just want to give Trump 5 billion to shut him up, used ‘binky’.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:54:52pm

re: #118 Single-handed sailor

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Trumps gonna to lose it.

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ckkatz  Jan 23, 2019 • 8:57:40pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I listened to some Robert Johnson last night, another musician’s musician. Was also listening to Jessica earlier by the Allmans.

Yes!

Certainly for me, beyond the wide ranging, knowledgeable, and thoughtful political discussion, LGF has really helped me widen my music tastes.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:01:28pm

re: #115 MsJ

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That is what she said.

Joy was really losing it early off camera as Lawrence O’Donnell was doing his bit on Trump not being able to come up with a dumb pointed nickname for Nancy Pelosi…who he likes to call Nancy.

The camera took a quick look at Joy and she was laughing pretty heartily about the idea of “Nancy” as a Trump nickname.

Trump is such a dick. He has to do is little bits even when he is unprepared. Or, he really is scared of Pelosi.

She scares the nickname right out of him.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:02:07pm

Here’s another picture of me freeheel skiing near Vail Pass, pretty deep in the backcountry, a few years ago.

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gwangung  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:03:12pm

re: #122 ObserverArt

That is what she said.

Joy was really losing it early off camera as Lawrence O’Donnell was doing his bit on Trump not being able to come up with a dumb pointed nickname for Nancy Pelosi…who he likes to call Nancy.

The camera took a quick look at Joy and she was laughing pretty heartily about the idea of “Nancy” as a Trump nickname.

Trump is such a dick. He has to do is little bits even when he is unprepared. Or, he really is scared of Pelosi.

She scares the nickname right out of him.

Exactly.

We all knew this had a high chance of happening. Which is why there really was no other choice for Speaker. (And I think most of the Democratic Reps knew that).

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:05:09pm

re: #121 ckkatz

Yes!

Certainly for me, beyond the wide ranging, knowledgeable, and thoughtful political discussion, LGF has really helped me widen my music tastes.

Dude, the music at LGF is insanely good, always has been.

The LGF tag Acoustic Guitar is some of the best the whole of the Internet has to offer.

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Scout  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:06:09pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Explain the eyes and lips kid. You can show school spirit without looking like you’re in a minstrel show.

The key is the school colors. Sports fans who paint their face pretty much always use their team’s colors. This high school’s colors seem to be white and blue, not black.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:08:16pm

re: #91 Single-handed sailor

It’s cute that they think they can control Trump or that he cares abou US businesses.

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ckkatz  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:11:38pm

re: #125 teleskiguy

Dude, the music at LGF is insanely good, always has been.

The LGF tag Acoustic Guitar is some of the best the whole of the Internet has to offer.

True that! And thank you for your musical post contributions too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:12:04pm

I have to share this pic from Daily Kos!

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:14:36pm

re: #125 teleskiguy

Dude, the music at LGF is insanely good, always has been.

The LGF tag Acoustic Guitar is some of the best the whole of the Internet has to offer.

There are so many artists that I’d never have heard had they not showed up here. I had heard of a couple of the CandyRat artists, but most of them would have probably gone unheard had Charles not posted them here.

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ckkatz  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:15:38pm

re: #118 Single-handed sailor

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After reading the article, I would say that Cliff Sims does not particularly like KellyAnne. Which seems like a reasonable conclusion to me.

I view her in the same way I view Rudy, as a mendacious, waste of time.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:17:49pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:22:54pm

So, I got my Melania Trump coins. Take a look.

Shown with US quarter for scale

These seem to be silver-plated and have the heft of a Kennedy half-dollar. A couple of you said you were interested in buying them. I’m not sure of the postage required, but I’m selling them to LGF peeps for a special price behind the private tags. I’ve seen them on eBay for much more and on Amazon for $10.

j4HFPbBIqPoINirNZLTcN4U8OOjSvwO84hHKAwL6P58aFUUlGQQMtA==

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:23:44pm

re: #132 Ace-o-aces

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I want to hear from that first idiotic Democrat who tried to say she needed to move on.

Also, at this point in time, there only a few I think I would want in that role.

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:29:56pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

I have a question for you.

Is there a depth of powder snow that will not support you? Or does the snow compact enough that with the addition of the speed of the skis you only go into it so deep?

I can understand a fairly hard base and maybe 20” of powder and blowing through it. But I always wondered if you could go into deep powder and end up in over your head.

Is there a depth of lake that will not support a water-skier?

If you’re going fast enough, if your skis are the right size and shape, you won’t sink.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:33:02pm

re: #135 sagehen

Is there a depth of lake that will not support a water-skier?

If you’re going fast enough, if your skis are the right size and shape, you won’t sink.

Same principle behind snowshoes.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:35:26pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

OK, I’ll stop.

OK, I lied.

Instagram

Sound on! 🔊 @dash_longe putting on a show for the crowds at Alta! 🎥: an innocent bystander #tgrlivethedream

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:38:31pm

A two-year-old girl’s birthday. So rad.

Instagram

2 years of smiles today. You light up the world Happy Hazy!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:47:54pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

It’s why Little Big Man is my favorite Western. One of the few that portrayed First Nations like human beings. Plus Chief Dan George and I have the same birthday so that’s cool too.

A personal side note:

I’ll occasionally post tweets from a close friend of mine, @Tonya_Song (whom I befriended in the furry fandom, she’s very active in there). She’s a very talented storyteller in her own right, often violent and ending in death for her characters, as it was too common a fate for her people. But they are at the same time tremendously inspirational.

I hope to help her in some way to collect these stories in published form. Not for my benefit, but for her people.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:55:10pm

Umphrey’s McGee sound check.

Instagram

Cincinnati soundcheck mayhem.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2019 • 9:56:48pm

re: #131 ckkatz

After reading the article, I would say that Cliff Sims does not particularly like KellyAnne. Which seems like a reasonable conclusion to me.

I view her in the same way I view Rudy, as a mendacious, waste of time.

Kinda like what I said earlier, maybe she’s so outrageously awful in a way to purposefully make Trump look bad, but because she’s showing fealty to him, he doesn’t care.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 23, 2019 • 10:05:25pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 23, 2019 • 10:09:16pm

re: #142 Single-handed sailor

Hell, even in the scenario that the GOP senate caves tomorrow, they still need to go forward with these wide-scale protests. They’d have my support.

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austin_blue  Jan 23, 2019 • 10:13:44pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

This was in Jackson Hole today.

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It wasn’t this deep at the ski area yesterday, but there was still face shots all day.

Stupid deep powder.

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Scout  Jan 23, 2019 • 10:20:24pm

re: #142 Single-handed sailor

Oh man. This is the first time in years I wish I could be in the U.S.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 23, 2019 • 10:45:21pm

One.

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austin_blue  Jan 23, 2019 • 10:49:37pm

tRump wants a SOTUA in the House Chamber so he can point into the bleachers where family members can stand up and be identified as having children killed by illegal immigrants.

Or to be clear, Stephen Miller wants that opportunity.

Pelosi today enforced the concept that the House is a co-equal member of the government with the Executive. They hold the purse strings. She is dead solid correct.

The House has advanced ten bills to reopen the government.

TurtleNeck has kept all of them from getting a Senate vote.

The pain is getting to the point where it is biting everyone, and more and more of the electorate are realizing that the wedge is tRump and his useless, ego-driven, never-going-to-be-built wall of China, American style…

The stupid is just pervasive in this country right now.

I’m going to get some sleep.

Everyone should be in the streets on Friday shutting the economy down. A general strike. Scare the 1% and this bullshit is dead meat.

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2019 • 10:56:42pm

re: #147 austin_blue

Everyone should be in the streets on Friday shutting the economy down. A general strike. Scare the 1% and this bullshit is dead meat.

No.

It should be Tuesday.

Because that’s the day that would be SOTU if our government were functional.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 23, 2019 • 11:03:32pm

re: #148 sagehen

No.

It should be Tuesday.

Because that’s the day that would be SOTU if our government were functional.

I think Friday is the federal employees’ next payday. if they were actually being paid, that is.

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teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2019 • 11:14:22pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 23, 2019 • 11:35:20pm

harris: prosecuted financial crimes

trump: committed financial crimes

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 24, 2019 • 12:01:02am

re: #151 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

harris: prosecuted financial crimes

trump: committeding financial crimes

Corrected for accuracy.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 24, 2019 • 1:08:48am
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 24, 2019 • 1:11:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 1:18:33am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

It’s why Little Big Man is my favorite Western. One of the few that portrayed First Nations like human beings. Plus Chief Dan George and I have the same birthday so that’s cool too.

The humor in that film is so dry that I have to sneeze, especially Dan George.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 1:25:30am

re: #93 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I was in a place where I couldn’t post when Venezuela was discussed downstairs, but DT’s base is isolationist af, so if he’s looking to strengthen his core constituency’s approval, I seriously doubt this will do it.

Isolationism somehow does not have a problem with colonizing petroleum-producing countries…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 1:25:59am

re: #95 HappyWarrior

America’s corporate leaders are idiots.

those are their public statements, they are smart enough to be aware of what is really happening

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2019 • 1:27:48am

re: #153 Single-handed sailor

THOSE GODDAMN MEXI…….oh, never mind

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 24, 2019 • 1:41:24am

Canadian cities re-think removal of fluoride from tap water

It shouldn’t be up to cities to decide to add fluoride to drinking water, but provincial officials, a Canadian mayor says.

Windsor, Ont., is bucking a national trend and looking at lifting its ban on adding fluoride to drinking water after seeing an increase in cavities among children.

Community water fluoridation is recommended by public health, medical and dental groups, including the Canadian and American Dental Associations, Canada’s Chief Dental Officer and the World Health Organization. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention called its contribution to the decline in cavities one of the 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century.

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freetoken  Jan 24, 2019 • 1:57:56am
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MsJ  Jan 24, 2019 • 2:27:38am
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Alephnaught  Jan 24, 2019 • 2:45:19am

Dunno if this has been posted before, but:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 2:49:54am

re: #163 Alephnaught

X files are made of these, who am I to Y or Z?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 3:08:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 3:12:29am
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steve_davis  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:04:39am

re: #46 Joe Bacon 🌹

I still remember the day mom found a cigarette butt in a sack of Gold Medal flour.

She dumped the sack and never bought it again. She swore by King Arthur Flour.

LOL! I’m having a grand time imagining how the cigarette butt wound up in the flour. Somebody on the line smoking? Some boss up on a gantry accidentally having his smoke fall into a vat?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:08:15am

re: #167 steve_davis

LOL! I’m having a grand time imagining how the cigarette butt wound up in the flour. Somebody on the line smoking? Some boss up on a gantry accidentally having his smoke fall into a vat?

Sounds like just common carelessness. I know too many smokers who still think the whole world is their ashtray. Or it coulda been somebody pissed off at the boss or company…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:09:44am

re: #126 Scout

The key is the school colors. Sports fans who paint their face pretty much always use their team’s colors. This high school’s colors seem to be white and blue, not black.

They do have black as an alternative color but really how often do you wear the alternative colors? The other weird thing is their school has a Native American chant yet their nickname is the colonels.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:12:09am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

It’s Kentucky. Logic has no relevance. Apologies to BWS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:12:31am

moron is awake

that last tweet…JFC

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:20:09am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

They do have black as an alternative color but really how often do you wear the alternative colors? The other weird thing is their school has a Native American chant yet their nickname is the colonels.

They know what they are getting away with and are smug about it.

Recall again that this whole blowup came about because these assholes posted it on their own social media sites…not like they were being persecuted, just called to answer for what they do in public

and that is the crux of the modern “PC” debate.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:25:14am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

How much did Trump pay promise to pay Doug Wead to write that book?

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:25:20am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is awake

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that last tweet…JFC

“This is everything FDR dreamed about, the New Deal to put America back to work. Think of LBJ, he gave people food stamps & welfare. Donald Trump’s giving them a job. He’s got a lot of good things to talk about. News stories do not accurately cover him, should correct.”

What a load of tripe. Donny comes in at the tail end of the Obama Recovery, gives the market a temporary sugar high with a massive tax giveaway, and this shitheel thinks that rises to the level of FDR or LBJ. Even getting past the decades of screaming from wingnuts that gov’t has no business “giving people jobs” and “picking winners and losers,” you’re still left with the reality that the man has done nothing to warrant any sort of credit for the job creation that’s happened in the past 2 years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:35:15am
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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:40:14am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They know what they are getting away with and are smug about it.

Recall again that this whole blowup came about because these assholes posted it on their own social media sites…not like they were being persecuted, just called to answer for what they do in public

and that is the crux of the modern “PC” debate.

Too right. Rude Pundit pointed this out.

Teenagers know that everything…every fucking thing…will be recorded. They love it. They want it. They want to see how the stupid shit they do gets major likes and hearts and whatever the fuck. That’s also what Sandmann was thinking standing there, knowing that his boys were recording. “Holy shit, this is gonna be so sick on my Insta.” The old person argument of “I could do stupid things when I was a teenager and no one would ever see it” is bullshit because today’s kids expect to be recorded. They do the stupid shit because they want it recorded.

That whole piece is worth the read, BTW.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:40:17am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:43:05am

Item #zillion and 1 in how carefully Trump has thought about the shutdown.

He’s going to tank the economy, too.

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MsJ  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:44:08am

re: #178 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Item #zillion and 1 in how carefully Trump has thought about the shutdown.

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He’s going to tank the economy, too.

I have been screaming that for several weeks now.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:44:16am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is awake

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that last tweet…JFC

so he’s only aware of this “book” because Fox & Fiends hyped it up

there is such a thing as a negative endorsement

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:46:36am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

image rehab for yertle is beginning in advance of his capitulation

it’s not going to work

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:56:33am

I hope the post that this guy is replying to shows up…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:58:03am

moron is fucking clueless

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:58:53am

re: #182 makeitstop

If @SpeakerPelosi thinks her State of the Union stunt can outmaneuver @realDonaldTrump , she’s in for a rude awakening. Pelosi is playing checkers. Trump is playing chess.

Nancy is playing three-dimensional chess and Trump is playing Candyland with the Plumpy card removed…

He can hold his speech wherever he wants and call it whatever he wants, and GOP members of Congress can attend if they want, but Nancy is not going to give him a venue to do it.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 24, 2019 • 4:59:41am

re: #179 MsJ

Also, this.

Despite all the growth, low unemployment, etc., some economists are saying the economy is in a bubble, and all it would take to pop it is some small, unexpected downturn. Like a government shutdown lasting more than month. 800,000 people losing three paychecks (so far) cannot contribute to the economy by buying stuff, for one thing. That’s like a medium-sized city just not spending any money.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:00:43am

This joke has a clever rhetorical structure. It’s brilliantly self-validating in that only a non-white, non-male can safely point out that it’s sexist and racist. A minor quibble, from a pragmatic sense, is that it is intended to wall off a third of the electorate at the moment we Lib/Prog/Dems need every vote to save civilization.

Or am I being too sensitive?

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:01:42am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The audacity of a man who has stomped six attempts to reopen the government flat because he is beholden to a president* who is running scared of his own base is just off the fucking chart. Yet the media is gonna try to present him as a bit player to Trump’s eventual humiliation, saying that McConnell had “no choice” but to go along with the whole mess.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:02:18am

re: #146 Single-handed sailor

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One.

And a pretty big one. Cory has the unenviable task of heading the NRSC and is up for re-election next November.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:02:36am

re: #104 MsJ

Moron

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And that is exactly what she asked him to do from the start of this bullshit back and forth shit. He’s a fucking child.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:03:25am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is fucking clueless

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Your own stupid tweets and ramblings are going to bring you down Donnie and you’re going to wish you never signed up for Twitter.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:03:30am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

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This joke has a clever rhetorical structure. It’s brilliantly self-validating in that only a non-white, non-male can safely point out that it’s sexist and racist. A minor quibble, from a pragmatic sense, is that it is intended to wall off a third of the electorate at the moment we Lib/Prog/Dems need every vote to save civilization.

Or am I being too sensitive?

I dunno, I lawled when I read it.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:04:43am

re: #182 makeitstop

I hope the post that this guy is replying to shows up…

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She has outmaneuvered him, he’s admitted defeat by agreeing to postpone the SOTU address after several days of brinkmanship. It’s not mystery that he’s going to take this snub personally and turn the address into a huge spectacle in order to convince himself that he’s leading anything more than Jack and Shit.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:06:39am

re: #191 makeitstop

I dunno, I lawled when I read it.

It’s disappointing they didn’t work “old” into it, and gone for the trifecta. Trade-off for conciseness, I guess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:07:12am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

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This joke has a clever rhetorical structure. It’s brilliantly self-validating in that only a non-white, non-male can safely point out that it’s sexist and racist. A minor quibble, from a pragmatic sense, is that it is intended to wall off a third of the electorate at the moment we Lib/Prog/Dems need every vote to save civilization.

Or am I being too sensitive?

The audacity of say, a group of young men who post something on the Internet that shows them acting in a most inappropriate and boorish manner and then act offended and indignant when called out on it, then yes it is most self-validating…

And yes, these guys are not even big enough to warrant being called “pricks”, I guess “clit” is a more apt term.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:07:34am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

They do have black as an alternative color but really how often do you wear the alternative colors? The other weird thing is their school has a Native American chant yet their nickname is the colonels.

Lots of schools, from high school to college, run “black out” games, where the team, regardless of primary colors, wears all black and fans are encouraged to do the same. I’ve seen many where students/fans use black body paint and it’s all good natured. The difference with the MAGACath photo is the kid in the crowd who painted himself black with white lips. I struggle to see how that isn’t racist.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:08:01am

Interesting - This time it’s Russian emails getting leaked

Russian oligarchs and Kremlin apparatchiks may find the tables turned on them later this week when a new leak site unleashes a compilation of hundreds of thousands of hacked emails and gigabytes of leaked documents. Think of it as WikiLeaks, but without Julian Assange’s aversion to posting Russian secrets.

The site, Distributed Denial of Secrets, was founded last month by transparency activists. Co-founder Emma Best said the Russian leaks, slated for release Friday, will bring into one place dozens of different archives of hacked material that, at best, have been difficult to locate, and in some cases appear to have disappeared entirely from the web.

Love the acronym - DDoS.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:08:37am

re: #182 makeitstop

I hope the post that this guy is replying to shows up…

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David Brody is still doubling down on that “chess” tweet this morning. Goes without saying, but working for Pat Roberson makes you cray-cray.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:09:27am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

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This joke has a clever rhetorical structure. It’s brilliantly self-validating in that only a non-white, non-male can safely point out that it’s sexist and racist. A minor quibble, from a pragmatic sense, is that it is intended to wall off a third of the electorate at the moment we Lib/Prog/Dems need every vote to save civilization.

Or am I being too sensitive?

Eh it doesn’t bother me as a white guy because frankly we do need to be brought down a peg and pointed out that even though we’re constantly the ones bitching about PC, we’re the ones who record ourselves destroying razors, coffee keurigs, etc. I do like what some of the feminists say about why it’s stupid to call someone a pussy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:11:00am

re: #195 Mike Lamb

Lots of schools, from high school to college, run “black out” games, where the team, regardless of primary colors, wears all black and fans are encouraged to do the same. I’ve seen many where students/fans use black body paint and it’s all good natured. The difference with the MAGACath photo is the kid in the crowd who painted himself black with white lips. I struggle to see how that isn’t racist.

Aha! That’s right. And yeah the Cov-Catholic photo, the kid definitely looks to be in stereotypical blackface. There are some things that have been more innocent i.e. the interpretation of the three point signal as being a white supremacist sign but other things like this and what I’ve read about the culture of the school.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:11:10am

re: #188 Myron Falwell

And a pretty big one. Cory has the unenviable task of heading the NRSC and is up for re-election next November.

I’d be really surprised if Gardner has much of a shot. He hasn’t come close to representing his constituency the last 6 years. If Hickenlooper runs, I think he might get smashed

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:15:01am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Aha! That’s right. And yeah the Cov-Catholic photo, the kid definitely looks to be in stereotypical blackface. There are some things that have been more innocent i.e. the interpretation of the three point signal as being a white supremacist sign but other things like this and what I’ve read about the culture of the school.

It is clear that they are being smug pricks about the blackface and the three-point gesture and are enjoying it. Unfortunately, and attempts to take them to task for it will just result in the usual rhetorical clusterfuck of counter-arguments

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:19:23am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is clear that they are being smug pricks about the blackface and the three-point gesture and are enjoying it. Unfortunately, and attempts to take them to task for it will just result in the usual rhetorical clusterfuck of counter-arguments

Yeah well I don’t give a fuck. It’s the 21st century. Blackface isn’t okay. These guys need to learn that early on. Doesn’t mean I support doxxing or threatening them but a clear message that blackface is racist af.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:20:08am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

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This joke has a clever rhetorical structure. It’s brilliantly self-validating in that only a non-white, non-male can safely point out that it’s sexist and racist. A minor quibble, from a pragmatic sense, is that it is intended to wall off a third of the electorate at the moment we Lib/Prog/Dems need every vote to save civilization.

Or am I being too sensitive?

A little. I thought of not posting, but realized that’s it’s a very true statement. I’m an old white man, and I’ve had my share of good and bad because of this, but I’ve had more good breaks that bad by a factor of 100. And the white guys who whine the most have had the most fortune in life. So here we are.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:20:19am

re: #197 Myron Falwell

David Brody is still doubling down on that “chess” tweet this morning. Goes without saying, but working for Pat Roberson makes you cray-cray.

Oh, the comments. I’m surprised Brody is even engaging some of them.

OTOH, he thinks Trump is winning against Pelosi, so maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:20:47am

re: #200 Mike Lamb

I’d be really surprised if Gardner has much of a shot. He hasn’t come close to representing his constituency the last 6 years. If Hickenlooper runs, I think he might get smashed

I think Gardner as being like my (thank God) former Congresswoman Comstock. Comstock won election to Congress in the same very Republican year 2014 in a state that has otherwise been going blue. I won’t say Gardner is a lock to lose but I won’t be surprised if the right candidate runs and beats him pretty well.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:22:49am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

They do have black as an alternative color but really how often do you wear the alternative colors? The other weird thing is their school has a Native American chant yet their nickname is the colonels.

They also have a Pacific Islander chant, that’s what the fat guy who took his shirt off was trying to do.

Also, too, when they are wearing white face paint their lips are normal and not outlined in black. When they are wearing black, the lips are exagerrated in white.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:23:21am

re: #204 makeitstop

Oh, the comments. I’m surprised Brody is even engaging some of them.

OTOH, he thinks Trump is winning against Pelosi, so maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.

Tony ate his lunch here. Thread…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:24:21am

re: #206 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

They also have a Pacific Islander chant, that’s what the fat guy who took his shirt off was trying to do.

Also, too, when they are wearing white face paint their lips are normal and not outlined in black. When they are wearing black, the lips are exagerrated in white.

In my experience, teams have chants related to their nickname. How the hell do you get a Pacific Islander chant when your nickname is the Colonels? There’s definitely a culture at that school.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:24:32am

For some reason #Moron seems to be the word of the day, or week, or…..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:24:59am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

Tony ate his lunch here. Thread…

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I like how they delude themselves about Trump. It’s adorable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:26:39am
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Sea Mexican  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:28:51am

re: #209 Dave In Austin

For some reason #Moron seems to be the word of the day, or week, or…..

It’s the word of the season ‘round here too, mate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:30:24am

I’m gonna go take a nap now…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:31:29am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She hasn’t done anything for this country. She thinks she’s special just because she happened to be born here. I have so much more respect for men and women who come here and truly become Americans. Kaitlin’s a little racist witch.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:31:53am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, if we continue that logic, everybody’s really an African because that’s where humanity originated from. Or Middle Eastern if you want to start counting from the beginning of civilization. Gunhumper Barbie needs to stick to what she knows best: Grifting from fellow ammosexuals.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:32:13am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:32:19am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m gonna go take a nap now…

We get it Donald, you share a kinship with Kim Jong Un because you’re both insecure little brats with Daddy issues who love authoritarianism.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:32:46am

re: #215 Targetpractice

Well, if we continue that logic, everybody’s really an African because that’s where humanity originated from. Or Middle Eastern if you want to start counting from the beginning of civilization. Gunhumper Barbie needs to stick to what she knows best: Grifting from fellow ammosexuals.

Or going to New York for the eleventyth time and trashing it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:33:07am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

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I feel bad for her for thinking she thinks that makes her look hot.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:34:49am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m gonna go take a nap now…

Your “summit” was a very expensive photo-op that led to an “agreement” that North Korea has shat all over and laughed at you while doing so. You gave legitimacy to a regime that past presidents were smart enough to keep at arm’s length, in exchange for a few trinkets that the Kims have tried vainly in the past to entice your predecessors to do what you did without a second thought: Toss away the precondition that North Korea dismantle its nuclear arsenal before they would meet with him in-person.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:38:46am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whoa, Tony don’t play. I like that guy.

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jeffreyw  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:41:10am

Good morning!

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:42:59am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

I feel bad for her for thinking she thinks that makes her look hot.

She’s not unattractive, and if I was a younger man would have my eye, but her parents and teachers failed here somewhere along the line.

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:45:19am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:45:43am

re: #203 I Would Prefer Not To

A little. I thought of not posting, but realized that’s it’s a very true statement. I’m an old white man, and I’ve had my share of good and bad because of this, but I’ve had more good breaks that bad by a factor of 100. And the white guys who whine the most have had the most fortune in life. So here we are.

Because it’s conscious hyperbole for humor, and over-generalized, it drives home a partial truth. It achieves that at the cost of divisiveness. The country is facing a critical year and we better switch to inclusiveness or get used toTrump2 and his 4 Supreme Court picks.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:46:10am

re: #222 jeffreyw

We had owl sign last night. A Screech owl was out from the nest box singing away. It’s prolly Ricky back for yr. 3. We’ll see if Rachel survived the year and shows up.

We love our owls here.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:46:22am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

She’s not unattractive, and if I was a younger man would have my eye, but her parents and teachers failed here somewhere along the line.

I just think she looks totally unhappy. But that seems to be the default setting for MAGAts, so.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:46:29am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

She’s not unattractive, and if I was a younger man would have my eye, but her parents and teachers failed here somewhere along the line.

Oh, I’m not calling her ugly. She’s not and even if I found her unattractive physically, that’s not my beef with her. It’s her personality. I have a big problem with how she has been to NYC several times now and proceeds to trash it without knowing a thing about the people who live there. Despite NYC’s reputation, I’ve found that New Yorkers are pretty welcoming people. The whole posing with guns thing is something I find very unattractive and not sexually arousing at all and she’s definitely going for that. Whenever I see poses like that, I ask myself if the men who will get off on that are more aroused by the woman or the gun.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:48:49am

re: #227 makeitstop

I just think she looks totally unhappy. But that seems to be the default setting for MAGAts, so.

I mean her whole thing is so shallow. And she seems either too full of herself or naive about the reality is if she were a black man or woman and posing with weapons the way she does, she’d be labeled a thug. I don’t think she’s a thug btw. But I find posing for guns especially dressed like that very shallow and stupid. If you’re going to pose with guns, dress like how you would if you were actually about to fire them rather than looking like you’re posing for an underwear ad.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:48:57am

But hey, Build the Wall, Crime Will Fall!, right?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:50:53am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Weapons as sexy are one of those “cause and consequences” aspects of our violence culture. Guns and violence as sexy instead of repulsive. Celebrating violent people, from Jack The Ripper on up to modern day gang culture.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:51:47am

re: #230 Citizen K

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But hey, Build the Wall, Crime Will Fall!, right?

Precisely. It’s always infuriated me that Dylann Roof executed people in cold blood and was not only taken alive but treated to BK by the arresting officers while Tamir Rice was killed within seconds of the police arriving on the scene. That’s not to say I think the police should have killed Dylann Roof. It’s the whole inconsistently with how police handle suspects. And the whole “Mah Due Process” didn’t care about Tamir’s or Eric Garner’s or Michael Brown or Philando Castile’s.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:52:53am

re: #231 Unshaken Defiance

Weapons as sexy are one of those “cause and consequences” aspects of our violence culture. Guns and violence as sexy instead of repulsive. Celebrating violent people, from Jack The Ripper on up to modern day gang culture.

I have no problem saying this but I really dislike guns. I dislike gun culture and I especially dislike attacking one’s masculinity if he has the balls to say “You know what, guns aren’t all that awesome.” I’m not saying btw you’re a bad person if you like guns, I’m saying I shouldn’t be shamed or called a pussy for not liking them.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:53:39am

Good morning Lizards,

How is our great American suicide coming along today? Wake me up when the GOP is tired of winning and gets around to paying the million folks who have been working for them for free..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:54:04am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Yeah well I don’t give a fuck. It’s the 21st century. Blackface isn’t okay. These guys need to learn that early on. Doesn’t mean I support doxxing or threatening them but a clear message that blackface is racist af.

They obviously have their own school tolerating or even encouraging it. And that is a major issue here that is also getting pushed aside in the shouting match.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:56:10am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

“the Native Americans migrated from Asia” argument is notable save for the fact that they came to populate an uninhabited territory, whereas whites came to expropriate and exterminate…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:56:51am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They obviously have their own school tolerating or even encouraging it. And that is a major issue here that is also getting pushed aside in the shouting match.

The question I have is what can really be done to get cultural change in a private school. This school is a walking argument against vouchers and helping to subsidize private schools for sure though.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:57:43am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

She looks like an unseasoned chicken breast with ramen noodle hair.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 5:58:59am

re: #231 Unshaken Defiance

Weapons as sexy are one of those “cause and consequences” aspects of our violence culture. Guns and violence as sexy instead of repulsive. Celebrating violent people, from Jack The Ripper on up to modern day gang culture.

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I have no problem saying this but I really dislike guns. I dislike gun culture and I especially dislike attacking one’s masculinity if he has the balls to say “You know what, guns aren’t all that awesome.” I’m not saying btw you’re a bad person if you like guns, I’m saying I shouldn’t be shamed or called a pussy for not liking them.

The funny thing is, I like guns in the abstract. I’ve been a gamer for nearly all my life, I’ve been inundated with guns and gun play between games, movies, television, comics, etc. But I’ve always been able to recognize that it’s all fictional gunplay. And I knew well enough, even never handling a gun more realistic than a Time Crisis arcade gun, that the real deal was no joke and it was far different than the ease in which they were used in fiction. I even understand the fascination with them as a tool, but a lot of that comes from Mythbusters, which always wholly emphasized that they were not things to be taken lightly ever, and they were lethal weapons, not toys. They were meant to kill, and even the goofy crash test dummy and ballistic gel targets didn’t gussy up the fact that they were lethal weapons.

Unfortunately, the lethality is exactly what attracts people to guns. It’s not love of guns, but love of violence and the platonic ideal of violence.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:01:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:01:04am

re: #239 Citizen K

The funny thing is, I like guns in the abstract. I’ve been a gamer for nearly all my life, I’ve been inundated with guns and gun play between games, movies, television, comics, etc. But I’ve always been able to recognize that it’s all fictional gunplay.

I own literally thousands of guns of all types, and dozens of Confederate flags, all in 1/72 scale…

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:01:51am

BTW, I hadn’t heard (here) that Joni Ernst was caught having an affair.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:02:22am

From the Bishop of the Lexington KY Diocese:

Without engaging the discussion about the context of the viral video or placing the blame entirely on these adolescents, it astonishes me that any students participating in a pro-life activity on behalf of their school and their Catholic faith could be wearing apparel sporting the slogans of a president who denigrates the lives of immigrants, refugees and people from countries that he describes with indecent words and haphazardly endangers with life-threatening policies.

Bishop Stowe is someone you could describe as “Walking the Walk”. As one of the few African Americans that work in the Diocese, he has reached out to me personally on a few occasions(after Charlottesville is an example) to listen to how I felt, and to discuss ways to help others understand the plight of the oppressed in our society. Sure, he is still a member of the leadership of the Catholic Church, and what comes with that. But from my experience, he is more progressive than even our best examples of Pope Francis. Bishop Stowe, is more like a Bishop in the Episcopal Church than in the Catholic Church.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:02:49am

re: #239 Citizen K

The funny thing is, I like guns in the abstract. I’ve been a gamer for nearly all my life, I’ve been inundated with guns and gun play between games, movies, television, comics, etc. But I’ve always been able to recognize that it’s all fictional gunplay. And I knew well enough, even never handling a gun more realistic than a Time Crisis arcade gun, that the real deal was no joke and it was far different than the ease in which they were used in fiction. I even understand the fascination with them as a tool, but a lot of that comes from Mythbusters, which always wholly emphasized that they were not things to be taken lightly ever, and they were lethal weapons, not toys. They were meant to kill, and even the goofy crash test dummy and ballistic gel targets didn’t gussy up the fact that they were lethal weapons.

Unfortunately, the lethality is exactly what attracts people to guns. It’s not love of guns, but love of violence and the platonic ideal of violence.

Right I get that. What I just wish they would acknowledge and this never is done following a school shooting is this, guns are designed to kill. That’s why the “Well cars kill people too” is a fallacy. Maybe gun control is the wrong phrase but gun responsibility? Absolutely and I why gun owners get upset because there are definitely responsible ones out there but there are other ones I’m sorry but they’re just not responsible people. Some of them are in LEO even. Some of them regular schmos. All put the rest of the community in danger. And some common sense is needed. It’s perfectly within reason for a place of business to want weapons banned from its premises and that’s doubly true if that place is serving alcohol.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:03:14am

Did any of you see the video of the 300 pound football player doing a back flip like a gymnast? it was on Good Morning America this morning.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:03:34am

re: #242 Belafon

BTW, I hadn’t heard (here) that Joni Ernst was caught having an affair.

I hadn’t heard about that. Her husband sounds like a real abusive prick. I hope they don’t have kids together.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:07:23am

Way I figure it, there’s one of three possible scenarios for how today plays out.

The first scenario is pretty much the one with the lowest odds, that’s that Mitch gets Donny’s “deal” through a cloture vote and then passed on a party-line vote. If that happens, it goes back to the House where it’s DOA and we’re left with both houses of Congress holding a bill they refuse to vote upon. An equally unlikely scenario is all this happens, but Nancy allows the Senate bill a vote and it goes down in flames on a party-line vote.

The next scenario, which is more likely, is the Senate passes the Senate DNC’s “clean” CR, it gets a quick passage in the House, only for Donny to be a petulant child and veto it. As of now, I think that’s still a plausible scenario, but the events of the past 24 hours may mean that Donny has lost his stomach for this brinkmanship and will sign the bill just so he can get his ego-stroking session next week where he might think he can make a case for the wall funding at the next shutdown.

The last and most plausible scenario is the “clean” CR passes both houses with veto-proof majorities and Donny makes a show about considering vetoing it before signing it so that the gov’t reopens on Monday. The can gets kicked down the road, he gets to do his SOTU address where he’ll likely make a big spectacle about the “victims” of “open borders” in what he thinks will be a successful pitch to extract his ransom demand when the next shutdown happens, and the media does their annual “He’s so presidential for reading a speech!” mutual masturbation session.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:09:51am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

There are plenty of white women who are just as insensitive. Danna L. and Ann come to mind.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:10:56am

re: #245 Belafon

Did any of you see the video of the 300 pound football player doing a back flip like a gymnast? it was on Good Morning America this morning.

Don’t think it’s the video you’re thinking of, but this might be the same guy?

320 lb Backflip by Western Illinois DT Khalen Saunders

That said, I’ve always been impressed by bigger men with true agility. It’s why I can’t help but be impressed by wrestlers who have agility and flexibility rather than just raw strength. And you’re seeing a lot of that in the last few years, with wrestlers like Keith Lee, who is 6’5” and 330lbs:

Keith Lee monkey flip

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:17:45am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s fun watching people claiming that Trump was going to play Pelosi over the shutdown eat those words as Trump backed down and Pelosi showed him who’s boss.

This guy is a political analyst for CBN News (Christian Broadcasting News). It figures that he’s spewing the nonsensical ravings of a right winger thinking that someone who has dealt with bullies and extortionists her entire life and put them in their place would show Trump his.

Meanwhile, Trump’s spent more time giving up more leverage to North Korea than he has had talks with Democrats to end the shutdown. In fact, Trump was trying to talk him his expected summit with North Korea and his “achievements” there.

Except that the achievement is bogus. He got a photo op, and North Korea did what they wanted - they expanded their nuclear weapons and missile production sites. They tossed Trump some bones (literally - he sent over some POW/MIA remains that might be Americans). North Korea has periodically done this over the decades, and shouldn’t signal anything other than deflection. Of course Trump thinks this is winning.

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sagehen  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:19:35am

re: #242 Belafon

BTW, I hadn’t heard (here) that Joni Ernst was caught having an affair.

Accused of (by her soon-to-be ex).

She denies it.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:19:42am

re: #230 Citizen K

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But hey, Build the Wall, Crime Will Fall!, right?

Dude looks an awful lot like that guy who kidnapped a young girl after killing her parents.

It’s like they grow them in test tubes or something.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:24:24am

re: #247 Targetpractice

Way I figure it, there’s one of three possible scenarios for how today plays out.

The first scenario is pretty much the one with the lowest odds, that’s that Mitch gets Donny’s “deal” through a cloture vote and then passed on a party-line vote. If that happens, it goes back to the House where it’s DOA and we’re left with both houses of Congress holding a bill they refuse to vote upon. An equally unlikely scenario is all this happens, but Nancy allows the Senate bill a vote and it goes down in flames on a party-line vote.

The next scenario, which is more likely, is the Senate passes the Senate DNC’s “clean” CR, it gets a quick passage in the House, only for Donny to be a petulant child and veto it. As of now, I think that’s still a plausible scenario, but the events of the past 24 hours may mean that Donny has lost his stomach for this brinkmanship and will sign the bill just so he can get his ego-stroking session next week where he might think he can make a case for the wall funding at the next shutdown.

The last and most plausible scenario is the “clean” CR passes both houses with veto-proof majorities and Donny makes a show about considering vetoing it before signing it so that the gov’t reopens on Monday. The can gets kicked down the road, he gets to do his SOTU address where he’ll likely make a big spectacle about the “victims” of “open borders” in what he thinks will be a successful pitch to extract his ransom demand when the next shutdown happens, and the media does their annual “He’s so presidential for reading a speech!” mutual masturbation session.

Let me give you one more- the one I worry about the most:
Mitch Turtle puts up the Trump bill first, and it goes down in defeat. He then pulls the clean “CR” and claims that he will still only put a bill up that Trump will sign. He and other Republicans try and point at this vote to show Democrats are blocking the government from opening. I don’t think this works politically, but this is the Mitch.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:24:54am

Hmmm… seems that a pair of my tweets have gotten quite a bit of attention re: McConnell, and have generated an influx of followers. Woot. It’s odd when that happens - it’s not that I mind the follower jump, but I’m never quite sure why one tweet seems to generate a response, when others don’t - and the insights are similar. Guess I caught lightning in a bottle for a change.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:26:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:27:15am

re: #243 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

From the Bishop of the Lexington KY Diocese:

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Bishop Stowe is someone you could describe as “Walking the Walk”. As one of the few African Americans that work in the Diocese, he has reached out to me personally on a few occasions(after Charlottesville is an example) to listen to how I felt, and to discuss ways to help others understand the plight of the oppressed in our society. Sure, he is still a member of the leadership of the Catholic Church, and what comes with that. But from my experience, he is more progressive than even our best examples of Pope Francis. Bishop Stowe, is more like a Bishop in the Episcopal Church than in the Catholic Church.

Good read. I may not agree with the Bishop on abortion but I do think when men and women like him talk about being pro-life, there is a sincerity there. And he is right on about allying with Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:28:14am

re: #255 lawhawk

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Typical.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:28:25am

Jared’s got himself some financial trouble, in the form of Deutsche Bank:

UPDATE:
The underlying story is older, but the financial trouble is there since he’s got debt payments to Deutsche Bank that aren’t getting covered by the rentals of the property. He’s underwater on this, and used an oversized cash loan leveraging this property to cover for his losses on 666 Fifth Avenue, which was also hemorrhaging money.

It’s a house of cards. Same with Trump (and same bank too).

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retired cynic  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:28:54am

re: #162 freetoken

apod.nasa.gov Orion over the Austrian Alps: fantastique! That was yesterday’s. Check out today’s for a night time view of the Matterhorn with blood red moon. And meteor.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:29:26am

Shot and chaser:

This is what an actual oligarchy looks like.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:30:13am

re: #260 Citizen K

Shot and chaser:

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This is what an actual oligarchy looks like.

Let Wilbur eat cake.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:30:58am

re: #255 lawhawk

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Times like these I regret not saving the Alec Baldwin pouring gif.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:31:14am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

And so it 12+1

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sagehen  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:32:10am

re: #255 lawhawk

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He was charged as a 19-year-old “with escaping from the Nebraska Penal Complex where he was confined May 3,” according to a 1974 article in the Lincoln Star.

Later that year, Phillips pleaded guilty to assault and was fined $200. He also was charged with underage possession of alcohol in 1972, 1973 and 1975, as well as negligent driving, the Examiner reported.

In August 1973, a charge of destruction of property against him was dropped, but he was sentenced to a year of probation for a related charge of alcohol possession by a minor.

In December 1978, Phillips was charged with driving without a license.

Other than the driving without a license, all of these were while he was in the military (1972-1976).

And all of them were more than 40 years ago.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:32:48am

re: #264 sagehen

Other than the driving without a license, all of these were while he was in the military (1972-1976).

And all of them were more than 40 years ago.

a dangerous criminal nonetheless

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:35:05am

re: #264 sagehen

Other than the driving without a license, all of these were while he was in the military (1972-1976).

And all of them were more than 40 years ago.

And all are irrelevant to what happened last week. The right seems to have this notion that if you have done bad things in the past, it should be used against you whenever you yourself are wronged. It’s fucking evil but it’s straight out of the Ailes-Murdoch playbook. I wonder how many felons the NY Post has employed over the years or gone to bat for.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:35:21am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

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This joke has a clever rhetorical structure. It’s brilliantly self-validating in that only a non-white, non-male can safely point out that it’s sexist and racist. A minor quibble, from a pragmatic sense, is that it is intended to wall off a third of the electorate at the moment we Lib/Prog/Dems need every vote to save civilization.

Or am I being too sensitive?

I will have to admit, that as a white male, I don’t consider it racist or sexist. But then again, I am not feeling persecuted at the moment.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:38:23am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

And all are irrelevant to what happened last week. The right seems to have this notion that if you have done bad things in the past, it should be used against you whenever you yourself are wronged. It’s fucking evil but it’s straight out of the Ailes-Murdoch playbook. I wonder how many felons the NY Post has employed over the years or gone to bat for.

**cough cough** wire tapping **cough cough** News of the World **cough cough**

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:38:40am

re: #260 Citizen K

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:39:10am

re: #268 Myron Falwell

**cough cough** wire tapping **cough cough** News of the World **cough cough**

Or that FNC has given Oliver North a microphone for years.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:39:38am

Or that FNC employed Bill O’Reilly, not just a serial sexual harasser but a man who abused his wife.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:40:09am

re: #269 lawhawk

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This really does resemble an oligarchy more and more. Swamp the drain.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:40:14am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

And all are irrelevant to what happened last week. The right seems to have this notion that if you have done bad things in the past, it should be used against you whenever you yourself are wronged. It’s fucking evil but it’s straight out of the Ailes-Murdoch playbook. I wonder how many felons the NY Post has employed over the years or gone to bat for.

Meanwhile, assholes like Brock Turner are saved from this forever tainting, because a judge saw it fit to not let a ‘youthful indiscretion’ ‘ruin his potential’. or some shit like that.

It’s a funny bit of institutional jiujitsu, where your criminal record forever defines you as a person, and the system gets to decide who deserves leniency or not for similar (or exact same) crimes. Hint: it almost always comes down to race in the end.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:40:34am

re: #269 lawhawk

jfc

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Jay C  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:41:25am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

And all are irrelevant to what happened last week. The right seems to have this notion that if you have done bad things in the past, it should be used against you whenever you yourself are wronged dare to go up against any right-wing narrative. It’s fucking evil but it’s straight out of the Ailes-Murdoch playbook. I wonder how many felons the NY Post has employed over the years or gone to bat for.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:41:35am

re: #253 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Let me give you one more- the one I worry about the most:
Mitch Turtle puts up the Trump bill first, and it goes down in defeat. He then pulls the clean “CR” and claims that he will still only put a bill up that Trump will sign. He and other Republicans try and point at this vote to show Democrats are blocking the government from opening. I don’t think this works politically, but this is the Mitch.

That would be suicidal, least of all because there is a visibly growing revolt in the Senate GOP ranks. It’s looking more and more like only the far-right backbenchers are prepared to burn the country down in Donny’s name.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:41:43am

re: #273 Citizen K

Meanwhile, assholes like Brock Turner are saved from this forever tainting, because a judge saw it fit to not let a ‘youthful indiscretion’ ‘ruin his potential’. or some shit like that.

It’s a funny bit of institutional jiujitsu, where your criminal record forever defines you as a person, and the system gets to decide who deserves leniency or not for similar (or exact same) crimes. Hint: it almost always comes down to race in the end.

I have noticed the same thing. But you point that out and you get called the real racist.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:41:46am

re: #267 Belafon

I will have to admit, that as a white male, I don’t consider it racist or sexist. But then again, I am not feeling persecuted at the moment.

The inversion test is a good rule of thumb. If a joke is questionable, change the race, sex, age, or orientation. It usually is applied in the other direction.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:43:26am

Because 800,000 federal workers who aren’t getting paid don’t qualify for unemployment benefits, initial unemployment claims dropped below 200,000 last week for the first time in nearly 50 years. reuters.com

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:43:57am

It’s sort of sad that I’m sitting here, hoping that the roads in my neighborhood will flood for no other reason than to have an excuse not to show up for the “mandatory” meeting that my boss set up for my department today.

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Old Liberal  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:44:00am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

And all are irrelevant to what happened last week. The right seems to have this notion that if you have done bad things in the past, it should be used against you whenever you yourself are wronged. It’s fucking evil but it’s straight out of the Ailes-Murdoch playbook. I wonder how many felons the NY Post has employed over the years or gone to bat for.

Unless you are a privileged white man and then it is youthful indiscretion up to age , say, whatever age you were two years ago

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sagehen  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:46:51am

re: #269 lawhawk

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only 1/3 of a percent of GDP.
Coincidentally, it’s also 1/3 of a percent of the US population.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:47:42am

re: #281 Old Liberal

Unless you are a privileged white man and then it is youthful indiscretion up to age , say, whatever age you were two years ago

Reminder that the 30 to 40-something Trump son are called ‘boys’ who ‘didn’t know any better’ and such for things they did 5 years ago.

Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, etc. are called ‘black men’ in the course of justifying treating them like rampaging savages that needed to be put down by righteous authorities. And the only time PoCs are infantilized are to justify denying them power or agency. White boys get infantilized to deny them consequences of their power or agency, which they can never be afforded more of.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:47:59am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Or that FNC has given Oliver North a microphone for years.

Along with Lumpy Individual #3, Ducklips, Tucker, Dick Morris, etc, &c.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:48:35am

re: #283 Citizen K

Reminder that the 30 to 40-something Trump son are called ‘boys’ who ‘didn’t know any better’ and such for things they did 5 years ago.

Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, etc. are called ‘black men’ in the course of justifying treating them like rampaging savages that needed to be put down by righteous authorities. And the only time PoCs are infantilized are to justify denying them power or agency. White boys get infantilized to deny them consequences of their power or agency, which they can never be afforded more of.

Hannity called them “kids” even though both are older than JFK and Nixon were when they first got elected to Congress in 1946.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:49:34am

re: #284 Myron Falwell

Along with Lumpy Individual #3, Ducklips, Tucker, Dick Morris, etc, &c.

Does Tucker have a criminal record? But right. FNC has no problem with having criminals on. I remember Chuck Colson when he was still alive being used to push morality and it just made me sick knowing that he was basically responsible for a lot of the worst aspects of the Nixon WH’s criminal doings.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:51:15am

re: #282 sagehen

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only 1/3 of a percent of GDP.
Coincidentally, it’s also 1/3 of a percent of the US population.

Ah, that compassionate conservatism: “You’re going to get paid eventually, so why the fuck should we care about you now?!”

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:51:26am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:51:37am

Secretary of Commerce doesn’t understand why unpaid workers are going to food banks.

His reply, “Let them eat soup…”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:53:11am

re: #282 sagehen

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only 1/3 of a percent of GDP.
Coincidentally, it’s also 1/3 of a percent of the US population.

But talk about a 70% marginal tax rate on multi-millionaires, a similar very small group of people, and they’ll scream bloody murder about how they’re being oppressed.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:53:58am

re: #253 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Let me give you one more- the one I worry about the most:
Mitch Turtle puts up the Trump bill first, and it goes down in defeat. He then pulls the clean “CR” and claims that he will still only put a bill up that Trump will sign. He and other Republicans try and point at this vote to show Democrats are blocking the government from opening. I don’t think this works politically, but this is the Mitch.

Which will work out even worse for Mitch. “We could have reopened the government, but McConnell decided to be a child” will be the statement every Democrat will say, and people not getting a check will have proof.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:54:17am

re: #289 Joe Bacon 🌹

Secretary of Commerce doesn’t understand why unpaid workers are going to food banks.

His reply, “Let them eat soup…”

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And these fuckers wonder why people like AOC advocate socialism. I’d love to see someone like Ross actually have to work rather than being a prostitute for corporate interests.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:54:44am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Does Tucker have a criminal record? But right. FNC has no problem with having criminals on. I remember Chuck Colson when he was still alive being used to push morality and it just made me sick knowing that he was basically responsible for a lot of the worst aspects of the Nixon WH’s criminal doings.

Yeah, Tucker doesn’t have a criminal record per se (his being an on-air nationalist notwithstanding) but he did lie about those allegations of “protests” at his home back in November being worse than they actually turned out to be.

It’s probably still unfair to directly lump him in with those other three, who actually had/have rap sheets or are being implicated in an active criminal investigation.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:54:59am

re: #288 lawhawk

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And now SCOTUS is taking a new gun case to ensure that gun nuts can take their guns with them where-ever they want.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:55:39am

re: #293 Myron Falwell

Yeah, Tucker doesn’t have a criminal record per se (his being an on-air nationalist notwithstanding) but he did lie about those allegations of “protests” at his home back in November being worse than they actually turned out to be.

It’s probably still unfair to directly lump him in with those other three, who actually had/have rap sheets or are being implicated in an active criminal investigation.

I do remember him bragging about beating up a gay guy btw but I think he may have just been trying to sound tough. Doesn’t make him any less of an asshole obviously.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:56:10am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

This would be the definition of trying too hard. This would have put her in some dangerous situations in high school or college when I was younger, some of the “you really meant yes, didn’t you” type situations.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:58:08am

re: #291 Belafon

Which will work out even worse for Mitch. “We could have reopened the government, but McConnell decided to be a child” will be the statement every Democrat will say, and people not getting a check will have proof.

McConnell is in dangerous territory. If he continues fucking Federal workers it’s only a matter of time before they pull out the George Hayduke Revenge books and use those tactics on him to turn his life into a living hell 24/7.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:58:34am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

And all are irrelevant to what happened last week. The right seems to have this notion that if you have done bad things in the past, it should be used against you whenever you yourself are wronged. It’s fucking evil but it’s straight out of the Ailes-Murdoch playbook. I wonder how many felons the NY Post has employed over the years or gone to bat for.

It works because it fits in to the narrative that dark-skinned people are criminal by nature.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 6:58:40am

I honestly cannot imagine a more tone-deaf approach to the hardship of a shutdown than what we’re seeing, short of suggesting aloud the institution of the damned Hunger Games.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:02:08am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It works because it fits in to the narrative that dark-skinned people are criminal by nature.

Well of course.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:02:28am

re: #276 Targetpractice

That would be suicidal, least of all because there is a visibly growing revolt in the Senate GOP ranks. It’s looking more and more like only the far-right backbenchers are prepared to burn the country down in Donny’s name.

The plausibility that Mitch stabs Schumer in the back by pulling the clean CR does exist. But even he clearly knows that this charade is over, and he has to start his own image rehab presto.

That type of stunt risks burning his decades-old institution of ratfucking so he always gets his way in absolute peril. This shitdown alone exposed him as a blando Trump accomplice like Paul Ryan directly was two years ago (Ryan took the brunt of that back then, not all ire was directed at Mitch).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:02:40am

re: #299 Targetpractice

I honestly cannot imagine a more tone-deaf approach to the hardship of a shutdown than what we’re seeing, short of suggesting aloud the institution of the damned Hunger Games.

It’s easy to make generalizations about people who AREN’T getting paid when you ARE getting paid.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:02:42am

re: #299 Targetpractice

I honestly cannot imagine a more tone-deaf approach to the hardship of a shutdown than what we’re seeing, short of suggesting aloud the institution of the damned Hunger Games.

I can’t imagine how it would be if we were in 1929 with these guys.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:03:04am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

And all are irrelevant to what happened last week. The right seems to have this notion that if you have done bad things in the past, it should be used against you whenever you yourself are wronged. It’s fucking evil but it’s straight out of the Ailes-Murdoch playbook. I wonder how many felons the NY Post has employed over the years or gone to bat for.

Now we know who the most famous felon the Screw York Post went to bat for.

Wayne Dumond!

Steve Dunleavy lied any lie about poor oppressed Wayne and how Bill Clinton railroaded him. And Fucking Mike Huckabee fell for Dunleavy’s lies lock, stock and barrel and let Wayne out after Wayne told ol’ Huck Sinn that he gave his life to Jay-Zuss

Wayne turned over a new leaf by once again going on another killing and rape spree.

And Fucking Huck Sinn never took responsibility for it.

buzzfeednews.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:03:39am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

I can’t imagine how it would be if we were in 1929 with these guys.

Smoot-Hawley

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:04:04am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It works because it fits in to the narrative that dark-skinned people are criminal by nature.

Plus the First Nations have been treated like shit by us since the colonial era and before that.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:05:44am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Smoot-Hawley

A bad tariff with the funniest name possible.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:05:49am

By the way, for comparison’s sake, the DoD never missed a paycheck last year during the shutdown over the DACA extension. Compare the level of screaming over that by wingnuts to their blase “Oh, they’ll get paid eventually” attitude towards 800K workers who are about to miss their second paycheck.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:05:59am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Smoot-Hawley

That’s legislation. I’m talking about their mindset and attitude towards the unemployed and hungry. Smoot-Hawley was bad legislation no doubt but not done because its writers were out of touch assholes who had no idea what the average American was going through. Thy wrongly thought protectionism was a solution- it was not.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:06:24am

re: #307 Myron Falwell

A bad tariff with the funniest name possible.

And why we still indirectly know Ben Stein today. Bue-ller.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:06:28am

CAGE MATCH!!!!!’

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:07:19am

re: #308 Targetpractice

By the way, for comparison’s sake, the DoD never missed a paycheck last year during the shutdown over the DACA extension. Compare the level of screaming over that by wingnuts to their blase “Oh, they’ll get paid eventually” attitude towards 800K workers who are about to miss their second paycheck.

The worst are those stupid wingnuts who are gleeful about them not getting their paychecks because they think federal employees are lazy and don’t have “real jobs” like they do. It was particularly rich seeing this from Kaitlin Gungirl.

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Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:07:20am

re: #311 Dave In Austin

CAGE MATCH!!!!!’

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…can’t they both lose?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:07:23am

re: #306 Myron Falwell

Plus the First Nations have been treated like shit by us since the colonial era and before that.

We gave them every chance to convert to Christianity and adopt White Man’s ways but they were obstinate and refused.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:08:01am

A quick run through this mornings headlines:

WILL THE DEMOCRATS EVER GIVE TRUMP A CHANCE ON BORDER SECURITY? - The Hill

TRUMP IS TRAPPED AND PELOSI REFUSES TO HELP - CNN
(No, this one is NOT from Cillizza)

NATIVE AMERICAN ACTIVIST NATHAN PHILIPS PAST INCLUDES ASSAULT CHARGE, ESCAPE FROM PRISON: REPORT - Fox News

RUDY GIULIANI IS A FOOL - Slate

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:08:45am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

That’s legislation. I’m talking about their mindset and attitude towards the unemployed and hungry. Smoot-Hawley was bad legislation no doubt but not done because its writers were out of touch assholes who had no idea what the average American was going through. Thy wrongly thought protectionism was a solution- it was not.

poverty = moral failing

not having enough food because government paycheck cancelled = also moral failing

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:08:57am

re: #313 Targetpractice

…can’t they both lose?

I hope they would; it’s embarrassing to me that Geraldo lives in Cleveland now (hoity-toity suburb Shaker Heights) and is a Browns fan.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:09:09am

re: #311 Dave In Austin

CAGE MATCH!!!!!’

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I’m not a big fan of Avanatti but his client being a porn star is irrelevant. Geraldo is a fucking little Trump toadie who attacks Stormy for being a porn star but loves the guy who carried on the affair with her. Sexist little asshole who probably definitely has some skeletons in his closet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:09:57am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

poverty = moral failing

not having enough food because government paycheck cancelled = also moral failing

I’m just saying. Smoot-Hawley wouldn’t be this current gang’s response. The current gang’s response to 1929 would be something much more insidious and out of touch.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:10:13am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

I’m not a big fan of Avanatti but his client being a porn star is irrelevant. Geraldo is a fucking little Trump toadie who attacks Stormy for being a porn star but loves the guy who carried on the affair with her. Sexist little asshole who probably definitely has some skeletons in his closet.

All things considered, Stormy is probably the cleanest and most upright of all involved there.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:10:25am

re: #317 Myron Falwell

I hope they would; it’s embarrassing to me that Geraldo lives in Cleveland now (hoity-toity suburb Shaker Heights) and is a Browns fan.

My sympathies and I’m a Steelers fan. We have Limbaugh in our ranks and I hate that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:11:17am

re: #320 Citizen K

All things considered, Stormy is probably the cleanest and most upright of all involved there.

Oh no doubt. I don’t judge her at all for being a pornstar. I’m just saying if you have a problem with her being one, shouldn’t you have at least some judgment towards the man who carried on an affair with her after his son was born but people like Geraldo are sexist assholes.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:11:23am

re: #278 Decatur Deb

The inversion test is a good rule of thumb. If a joke is questionable, change the race, sex, age, or orientation. It usually is applied in the other direction.

As a white male, I didn’t find it questionable. That’s the big reason I didn’t find it offensive.

Don’t get too carried away with the inversion thing, though, either. Part of racism and sexism is the power component, the fact that the racist/sexist can inflict some kind of harm to the other. If you apply the inversion rule too much, you can lose the ability to criticize anyone for those actions. And that’s what this is via the satire.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:11:26am
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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:11:28am

re: #299 Targetpractice

I honestly cannot imagine a more tone-deaf approach to the hardship of a shutdown than what we’re seeing, short of suggesting aloud the institution of the damned Hunger Games.

Seriously. Everyone in the administration who opens their mouth about it sounds as out of touch as they can possibly be.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:11:59am

Republicans love coal miners so much, they want to make it even harder for them to qualify for black lung benefits. ohiovalleyresource.org

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:12:39am

re: #324 Dave In Austin

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So imagine this. You got the internship that you worked hard to get. You’ve done apartment shopping and probably have a lease of some kind. And this happens.

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Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:13:02am

re: #324 Dave In Austin

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Feature, not bug.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:13:26am

re: #326 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Republicans love coal miners so much, they want to make it even harder for them to qualify for black lung benefits. ohiovalleyresource.org

My grandmother’s father died of black lung and it contributed to killing my grandfather’s father as well. Republicans don’t give two shits about miners. Miners are a fucking tool to them and I wish more miners would realize that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:14:03am

GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!

Is this Anti-Semitism? Or is only Farrakhan the Anti-Semitism?

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:14:12am

re: #313 Targetpractice

…can’t they both lose?

The only prudent choice is to root for career-ending injuries on both sides.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:14:56am

re: #324 Dave In Austin

Which just makes Muellers job that much harder. THIS is the impetus Trump has to keep the shutdown going.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:15:36am

re: #324 Dave In Austin

A de facto message to the FBI sent from Trump.

Had he actually thought about it, I mean. This whole mess is proof he acts on pure impulse without a whim of thought.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:16:35am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

A video posted this month paraphrases a classic poem about the Holocaust. But it isn’t meant to denounce Nazis. Instead its purported villains are Orthodox Jews looking to move to the Central New Jersey suburbs.

I see.

Protesting White Genocide.

/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:17:04am

re: #325 makeitstop

Seriously. Everyone in the administration who opens their mouth about it sounds as out of touch as they can possibly be.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:17:33am

re: #325 makeitstop

Seriously. Everyone in the administration who opens their mouth about it sounds as out of touch as they can possibly be.

It makes me laugh so hard when I see Trump lauded for being in “touch” with the average American. He never has. He’s a cynical asshole who used the prejudice of millions of others to get political power to maintain his own personal power.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:17:59am

re: #333 Myron Falwell

A de facto message to the FBI sent from Trump.

Had he actually thought about it, I mean. This whole mess is proof he acts on pure impulse without a whim of thought.

Remembering my history, that habit reminds me of Kaiser Wilhelm around 1914. He also thought he was hot stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:19:20am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!

Is this Anti-Semitism? Or is only Farrakhan the Anti-Semitism?

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Certainly is and it makes me sick using that poem that way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:20:07am

re: #338 HappyWarrior

Certainly is and it makes me sick using that poem that way.

not the first time.

first they came for the Men’s Rights activists…

First they came for the bump stocks…

First they came for the date rapists…

etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:21:06am

re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not the first time.

first they came for the Men’s Rights activists…etc.

Absolutely, anyhow it’s this idea that certain groups, in this case Orthodox Jews don’t belong in this community. That’s bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:21:57am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Absolutely, anyhow it’s this idea that certain groups, in this case Orthodox Jews don’t belong in this community. That’s bullshit.

It’s right there in the Protocols…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:22:07am

Here’s…AOC!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:22:45am

re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not the first time.

first they came for the Men’s Rights activists…

First they came for the bump stocks…

First they came for the date rapists…

etc.

First they came for the Covington Kids…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:22:50am

re: #342 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here’s…AOC!

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Here’s Alllllllllllllly! works better IMO :).

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:23:18am

re: #311 Dave In Austin

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:25:50am

LARA TRUMP: There will be some pain but The Wall is so much more than just one person!

WILBUR ROSS: Hold my beer.

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jeffreyw  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:27:20am

re: #307 Myron Falwell

A bad tariff with the funniest name possible.

Naw, that would be Hoot-Smawley. Also, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:27:58am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

LARA TRUMP: There will be some pain but The Wall is so much more than just one person!

WILBUR ROSS: Hold my beer.

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I seem to remember Obama being called a snob for suggesting that everyone should have some kind of post secondary education. Bet Frothy won’t have anything negative to say about Lara or Ross’s out of touch bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:28:31am

re: #347 jeffreyw

Naw, that would be Hoot-Smawley. Also, too.

I still remember she tried using that to blame FDR even though Smoot and Hawley were both Republicans and the legislation was signed by Hoover.

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Old Liberal  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:29:15am

re: #314 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We gave them every chance to convert to Christianity and adopt White Man’s ways but they were obstinate and refused.

/

I know your post was good snark but if you don’t mind I will add that the Cherokee DID give up their norms to fit in with the white settlers and were rewarded with the Trail of Tears. No matter what native people did, they were robbed and oppressed.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:29:23am

re: #348 HappyWarrior

I seem to remember Obama being called a snob for suggesting that everyone should have some kind of post secondary education. Bet Frothy won’t have anything negative to say about Lara or Ross’s out of touch bullshit.

They want to sabotage functioning govt, so if these folks decide to quit working for the government and go elsewhere, they consider it a win for them (and the billionaire class that looks at the “savings” as another tax cut to be had for them).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:29:39am

re: #351 lawhawk

They want to sabotage functioning govt, so if these folks decide to quit working for the government and go elsewhere, they consider it a win for them (and the billionaire class that looks at the “savings” as another tax cut to be had for them).

Yep.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:29:58am

re: #348 HappyWarrior

I seem to remember Obama being called a snob for suggesting that everyone should have some kind of post secondary education. Bet Frothy won’t have anything negative to say about Lara or Ross’s out of touch bullshit.

Almost nobody is going to start a career with a only a high school education, but it was twisted by twits like Palin and Santorum to mean we should all get a university degree…

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:31:52am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

Because it’s conscious hyperbole for humor, and over-generalized, it drives home a partial truth. It achieves that at the cost of divisiveness. The country is facing a critical year and we better switch to inclusiveness or get used toTrump2 and his 4 Supreme Court picks.

Gotta say, it’s a lot of angst for one single meme. Considering that everyone who’s not a white man and surfs the web sees stuff like that All The Time.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:32:12am

re: #353 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Almost nobody is going to start a career with a only a high school education, but it was twisted by twits like Palin and Santorum to mean we should all get a university degree…

And Obama made it very clear he was including vocational and community college as well. Obama was the first President I saw and as someone who got a fairly slow start this was appreciated (I spent 3 years of community college after HS) that really championed it. I think Biden could have helped on that too. Jill Biden in fact taught at the same community college I attended. Northern Virginia Community College. I wasn’t ready for a four year school at the age of 18 but thanks to NVCC I definitely was at 21.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:33:25am

re: #350 Old Liberal

I know your post was good snark but if you don’t mind I will add that the Cherokee DID give up their norms to fit in with the white settlers and were rewarded with the Trail of Tears. No matter what native people did, they were robbed and oppressed.

They still stubbornly refused to be white.//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:37:54am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

And Obama made it very clear he was including vocational and community college as well.

Obama could never ever express himself clearly enough to avoid being taken out of context by his detractors.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:41:02am

re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Obama could never ever express himself clearly enough to avoid being taken out of context by his detractors.

That was the point. See, that, you, build, didn’t, and alone.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:42:16am

re: #178 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Item #zillion and 1 in how carefully Trump has thought about the shutdown.

He’s going to tank the economy, too.

Economists are stating there could be ZERO growth in the first quarter if Donnie’s tantrum continues any longer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:43:39am

re: #359 Dr. Matt

Economists are stating there could be ZERO growth in the first quarter if Donnie’s tantrum continues any longer.

I wonder, when was the last time we had a zero growth quarter?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:44:33am

This aged well….

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:44:42am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:45:17am

re: #354 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Gotta say, it’s a lot of angst for one single meme. Considering that everyone who’s not a white man and surfs the web sees stuff like that All The Time.

It’s a nano-aggression at worst.
At the same time, we elected Doug Jones with less than 20,000 votes. 35% of our electorate is white men, 11% is nonwhite men, 31% white women, 17% nonwhite women. How many jokes equal a vote?

washingtonpost.com

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Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:46:45am

Fitch: Extended shutdown, debt ceiling could lower US credit rating

The United States may be in danger of losing its triple-A credit rating if a shutdown drags on and the debt ceiling becomes a political issue, according to credit rating agency Fitch.

“If this shutdown continues to March 1 and the debt ceiling becomes a problem several months later, we may need to start thinking about the policy framework, the inability to pass a budget … and whether all of that is consistent with triple-A,” Fitch’s global head of sovereign ratings, James McCormack, said Wednesday in London, according to Reuters.

#MAGA

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:51:14am

Umm…new Weezer

Track list:

Africa
Everybody Wants To Rule The World
Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
Take On Me
Happy Together
Paranoid
Mr. Blue Sky
No Scrubs (!!!)
Billie Jean
Stand by Me

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:53:08am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:53:19am

re: #365 makeitstop

Umm…new Weezer

Track list:

Africa
Everybody Wants To Rule The World
Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
Take On Me
Happy Together
Paranoid
Mr. Blue Sky
No Scrubs (!!!)
Billie Jean
Stand by Me

Awesome track list.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:54:00am

re: #365 makeitstop

Umm…new Weezer

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Track list:

Africa
Everybody Wants To Rule The World
Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
Take On Me
Happy Together
Paranoid
Mr. Blue Sky
No Scrubs (!!!)
Billie Jean
Stand by Me

I was saying the other night that I like covers because I think interpreting others work is a form of art just as much as making your own.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:55:02am

re: #281 Old Liberal

Unless you are a privileged white man and then it is youthful indiscretion up to age , say, whatever age you were two years ago

At least 40 — remember all those “youthful indiscretion” affairs of Congressmen a while back?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:55:52am

re: #369 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

At least 40 — remember all those “youthful indiscretion” affairs of Congressmen a while back?

Or a Supreme Court nominee?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:57:03am

re: #369 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

At least 40 — remember all those “youthful indiscretion” affairs of Congressmen a while back?

Henry Hyde. A youthful indiscretion at the age of 48. Only a few years younger than the man he was impeaching. for adultery. It’s always the hypocrisy. If Republicans want to not be true to their supposed morals, that’s beyond me but don’t do that shit and then act like because you’re against abortion, go to church, etc that you’re more moral than me.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:57:05am

re: #367 Dr. Matt

Awesome track list.

Couple of odd ones in there. No Scrubs???

They also announced that the long-awaited ‘Black Album’ will drop in March.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:58:02am

re: #372 makeitstop

Couple of odd ones in there. No Scrubs???

They also announced that the long-awaited ‘Black Album’ will drop in March.

That could be interesting. Not sure if you’re a Ryan Adams fan but he has a whole CD that is song for song covers of Taylor Swift and you know what, it’s pretty damn good honestly.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 7:59:04am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

I was saying the other night that I like covers because I think interpreting others work is a form of art just as much as making your own.

Covers are often a window into where the original stuff comes from, too.

Weezer loves their cover tunes. Youtube is full of them doing other people’s stuff.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:00:22am

This shutdown is the national equivalent of what Republicans have done in Wisconsin, Michigan, and North Carolina: Attempting to deny Democrats any governing authority that Republicans had.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:00:36am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

That could be interesting. Not sure if you’re a Ryan Adams fan but he has a whole CD that is song for song covers of Taylor Swift and you know what, it’s pretty damn good honestly.

I was talking to someone when I was in LA last week who told me that Ryan did the entire ‘Exile On Main Street’ album at a show in New Orleans in December.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:01:51am

re: #374 makeitstop

Covers are often a window into where the original stuff comes from, too.

Weezer loves their cover tunes. Youtube is full of them doing other people’s stuff.

Very true. And then sometimes you have the cover that becomes better than the original. I found Johnny Cash’s version of Hurt more powerful than NIN’s because I always hear Hurt and see it as Johnny’s swan song. His farewell, his thanks for the life you gave me, basically his version of My Way but more darker and open.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:02:19am

re: #376 makeitstop

I was talking to someone when I was in LA last week who told me that Ryan did the entire ‘Exile On Main Street’ album at a show in New Orleans in December.

That’s awesome. He’s a talented guy even if he is a bit of a headcase.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:05:01am

1st, I understand the implications. But ATC’s can end this thing tomorrow. The need to announce a walkout with a few days notice that if you fly your planes to the US you’re on your own.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:06:12am

Anyone know what time those Senate votes are taking place?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:07:36am

re: #366 jaunte

Which is a possibility, but I just have a difficult time believing the senate GOP is that suicidal.

If they were both meant to fail, Mitch would have set the clean CR first so it goes down, putting the screws on Schumer and the Democrats to vote for Trump’s self-made “deal.”

Instead Mitch gave the Democrats a ton of leverage and wavering senators like Gardner an escape hatch.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:07:45am

re: #379 Dave In Austin

1st, I understand the implications. But ATC’s can end this thing tomorrow. The need to announce a walkout with a few days notice that if you fly your planes to the US you’re on your own.

“We’re BlackFlyer, LLC, with a whole contingent of air traffic controllers that will suit your airports needs.”

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:08:03am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

I was saying the other night that I like covers because I think interpreting others work is a form of art just as much as making your own.

Interesting idea, hadn’t really thought of it like that.

But in general I’m finding that I enjoy covers more than I used to.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:08:37am

re: #381 Myron Falwell

Which is a possibility, but I just have a difficult time believing the senate GOP is that suicidal.

If they were both meant to fail, Mitch would have set the clean CR first so it goes down, putting the screws on Schumer and the Democrats to vote for Trump’s self-made “deal.”

Instead Mitch gave the Democrats a ton of leverage and wavering senators like Gardner an escape hatch.

I don’t know what McConnell is thinking, I just know that whatever outcome there is, it’s his fault.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:08:50am

re: #376 makeitstop

I was talking to someone when I was in LA last week who told me that Ryan did the entire ‘Exile On Main Street’ album at a show in New Orleans in December.

I recall Eugene Chadbourne of Camper van Beethoven covering all of ‘Tusk’ by Fleetwood Mac.

This was a long time ago back before bastard pop and offbeat covers were all the rage.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:08:52am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:09:14am

re: #382 Belafon

Sounds DeVosed…….

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William Lewis  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:09:51am

re: #376 makeitstop

I was talking to someone when I was in LA last week who told me that Ryan did the entire ‘Exile On Main Street’ album at a show in New Orleans in December.

He is an odd one but I can see him doing it. I did enjoy that he finally said “fuck it” and started doing a “Summer of 69” cover. But honestly, even as talented as he is, I’d still probably pass on going to one of his shows if anyone else was in town.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:10:26am

re: #382 Belafon

“We’re BlackFlyer, LLC, with a whole contingent of air traffic controllers that will suit your airports needs.”

Are they co-owned with Surefire® Intelligence? ////

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:11:12am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:11:29am

re: #381 Myron Falwell

Which is a possibility, but I just have a difficult time believing the senate GOP is that suicidal.

If they were both meant to fail, Mitch would have set the clean CR first so it goes down, putting the screws on Schumer and the Democrats to vote for Trump’s self-made “deal.”

Instead Mitch gave the Democrats a ton of leverage and wavering senators like Gardner an escape hatch.

Yeah I think this is a good point.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:11:59am

re: #389 Myron Falwell

Are they co-owned with Surefire® Intelligence? ////

Utlimately they will cost more, and, being a limited liability company, you’ll have to get used to a 5% failure rate.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:12:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:13:31am

re: #393 Patricia Kayden

Tucker Carlson’s career, persona and fortune have been built on “identity politics,” but because that identity is white, he doesn’t perceive it that way. White is “normal,” the default, and in his mind it’s “identity politics” to even notice that fact.

your a racist becuz you talk about racism

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:13:33am

re: #363 Decatur Deb

It’s a nano-aggression at worst.
At the same time, we elected Doug Jones with less than 20,000 votes. 35% of our electorate is white men, 11% is nonwhite men, 31% white women, 17% nonwhite women. How many jokes equal a vote?

washingtonpost.com

It’s still just one snarky comment. And please note, it’s saying white men are too sensitive. White Men Are Too Sensitive — could I possibly have heard that before? About other groups? In all seriousness?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:14:05am

re: #382 Belafon

“We’re BlackFlyer, LLC, with a whole contingent of air traffic controllers that will suit your airports needs.”

“Hi we’re MOS 15Qs, and we love to ATC where nobody is shooting at us.”

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:15:14am

re: #396 Decatur Deb

“Hi we’re MOS 15Qs, and we love to ATC where nobody is shooting at us.”

Wouldn’t he have to nationalize the airports to do that?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:16:59am

re: #397 Dave In Austin

Wouldn’t he have to nationalize the airports to do that?

No. Just loaners in the face of a threat to life and safety. Joint Task Force Andrew managed the airspace at Miami during the cleanup. Not sure the military didn’t backfill the PATCO strikers for a while.

Edit: Yes, Reagan did use military and other replacements for the fired strikers. en.wikipedia.org

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:18:09am

re: #384 Belafon

I don’t know what McConnell is thinking, I just know that whatever outcome there is, it’s his fault.

Here is a vox article explaining the McConnell is “showing the body” (having a failed vote) to demonstrate they tried to reopen the government but didn’t have the votes. Trump’s ego can’t take the humiliation of backing down, even though his approval ratings are plummeting, and most Republicans, like McConnell, are afraid of being primaried by a Trumpanzee so they can’t buck the President. It looks like it will take a crisis to end this shutdown, such as TSA agents having a sickout in key hub airports such as Atlanta and Chicago to end US air travel. Next week, when rich people want to be flying to Atlanta for the Super Bowl, would be a perfect time for it.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:18:21am

Kleptocracy, Kontinued.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:18:21am

re: #390 Patricia Kayden

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I remember my grandma’s old priest getting some slack from the congregation when he quoted Barbara Streisland.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:19:54am

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

Irony, like rain on your wedding day or something.

If only there were multiple social media platforms or a conservative cable news network.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:20:33am

re: #393 Patricia Kayden

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Tucker, your whole show is identity politics about how “they” are ruining “us.” Shut the fuck up. You guys started the whole identity politics bullshit when you insist that we’re a “Christian nation” even though there is nothing about Christianity in the founding documents. You make it identity politics when you rail against immigrants even though you too are descendant of immigrants. Just stop being a hypocritical waste of space. It’s not that these kids were white. It’s that they acted like jerks. And we know exactly how your network would have handled black kids and a white older man of any kind.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:21:05am

re: #402 Sir John Barron

If only there were multiple social media platforms or a conservative cable news network.

Fucking little prep boy thinks he’s the voice of the average white perosn. He’s an out of touch asshole who has lived in the FNC safe space too long.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:21:35am

re: #400 jaunte

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Kleptocracy, Kontinued.

Ivanka I really hope is Mueller’s scope.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:22:31am

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

Irony, like rain on your wedding day or something.

I wonder how the Freepers and MAGAs are taking this Fail. They can’t like it that Nancy SMASH denied him his coveted speech. Or perhaps they’re rationalizing it rather easily or have shoved it to the already forgotten bin.

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Teukka  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:25:20am

Re: Gushing Over Putin’s tax policy…
[tinfoil]Ever consider the remote possibility that the constant choking of the governments revenue stream over the past three or four decades is intentional, and intended to in the long run cause the government to cease functioning, causing the country to become a failed state where the people with the most wealth, status and (fire)power have a free-for-all with the spoils?[/tinfoil]
Good tinfoil [y/n]?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:26:00am

re: #391 Sir John Barron

Yeah I think this is a good point.

This is either a horrendous oversight by Mitch that Schumer managed to exploit, or Mitch is all but giving up (but contemptuously refusing to say as such).

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steve_davis  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:26:14am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

It’s incredible. As I got at, it really inspires my imagination for that era.

And who can forget Django’s invaluable help when someone forgot to pay a large bar tab and the band had to flee?

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:27:13am

re: #407 Teukka

Re: Gushing Over Putin’s tax policy…
[tinfoil]Ever consider the remote possibility that the constant choking of the governments revenue stream over the past three or four decades is intentional, and intended to in the long run cause the government to cease functioning, causing the country to become a failed state where the people with the most wealth, status and (fire)power have a free-for-all with the spoils?[/tinfoil]
Good tinfoil [y/n]?

That was the Gilded Age here. It took a Great Depression to show what was happening, a Great War to get out of it, and racism to get back there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:28:26am

re: #410 Belafon

That was the Gilded Age here. It took a Great Depression to show what was happening, a Great War to get out of it, and racism to get back there.

This is one of the most succinct summaries of one of the most significant periods in history that I’ve ever seen.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:29:01am

Crazy time we live in.

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Teukka  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:29:15am

re: #410 Belafon

That was the Gilded Age here. It took a Great Depression to show what was happening, a Great War to get out of it, and racism to get back there.

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
And those who learn from history are doomed to watch who didn’t learn repeat it.”
*sigh*

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:30:10am

re: #385 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall Eugene Chadbourne of Camper van Beethoven covering all of ‘Tusk’ by Fleetwood Mac.

This was a long time ago back before bastard pop and offbeat covers were all the rage.

Now that is one damn weird choice to cover. I was never able to grasp what Fleetwood Mac was getting at with that record.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:33:50am

“A suspicious package that sent first responders on Wednesday to the diocese that oversees the Kentucky Catholic high school whose students were involved in a controversial confrontation with Native American protestors last week was “cleared without incident,” police said.

“It was unfounded, basically,” Kenton County Emergency Communications Center supervisor Gary Holbrook told the Daily News Wednesday evening. “It was nonhazardous and there wasn’t anything significant about it.”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:35:39am

re: #399 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If the clean CR fails after Mitch placed it the way he did, after the Trump deal, the GOP could try that narrative.

But it will be out of sheer luck and not any successful maneuvering on Mitch’s part.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:36:07am

I know some lizards here have been ringing the alarm bell for a while.

Iowan Who Almost Beat Steve King Wants Democrats To Take Rural America Seriously

J.D. Scholten, a lanky Democrat from northwest Iowa, is frustrated ― albeit in a polite, Midwestern kind of way.

Why wouldn’t he be? In November, the 38-year-old former paralegal and minor-league pitcher fought white supremacist Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) to within inches of the incumbent’s political life.

Scholten, who drove his RV, “Sioux City Sue,” to all 39 counties that comprise Iowa’s vast, rural 4th U.S. House seat, came within 3 percentage points of winning in a district Donald Trump won by 27 points two years earlier and where King was used to cruising to victory.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:38:19am

re: #417 Amory Blaine

I know some lizards here have been ringing the alarm bell for a while.

Iowan Who Almost Beat Steve King Wants Democrats To Take Rural America Seriously

I really would like to end the narrative that Democrats don’t take rural areas seriously. I’m really serious that a whole lot of them vote because they are racist. Democrats create programs to help both rural and city people and yet rural peole refuse to look at them because they help “those others.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:39:17am

re: #417 Amory Blaine

I know some lizards here have been ringing the alarm bell for a while.

Iowan Who Almost Beat Steve King Wants Democrats To Take Rural America Seriously

I get him and I do think we should listen to rural America but rural America also shouldn’t get a pass for its faults either and get told that it’s “real America.” I’m not saying JD is doing that here but rural America’s got its faults that its advocates ignore. And I’m not saying urban America doesn’t but there’s a reason why Steve King has been successful in that district.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:39:57am

Here in Texas, Republicans attempted to pass a charter school law. Rural areas screamed until it was removed, and yet voted for the very people who proposed the bill.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:40:30am

re: #418 Belafon

I really would like to end the narrative that Democrats don’t take rural areas seriously. I’m really serious that a whole lot of them vote because they are racist. Democrats create programs to help both rural and city people and yet rural peole refuse to look at them because they help “those others.”

That exactly. I;m fine with us listening to the concerns of farmers but I’m going to turn off if they want us to start opposing choice, LGBT rights, immigrants, social programs, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:41:41am

I hear complaints about big city elitism a lot but seldom ever to I see the disdain towards urbanites disparaged.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:41:42am

re: #417 Amory Blaine

When I go to these national trainings and there are all these fights about what kind of Democrat you are, I say, “Come to the 4th district where we’re just trying to fight to be Democrats.”

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:42:32am

That may be true, but there could be significant non voters that would come out and maybe vote for Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:42:32am

re: #423 Decatur Deb

When I go to these national trainings and there are all these fights about what kind of Democrat you are, I say, “Come to the 4th district where we’re just trying to fight to be Democrats.”

I do hear that.

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darthstar  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:43:59am

re: #311 Dave In Austin

CAGE MATCH!!!!!’

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I was enjoying Avenatti’s absence from the headlines recently. I was happy to move on.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:44:04am

re: #424 Amory Blaine

That may be true, but there could be significant non voters that would come out and maybe vote for Democrats.

“We’re going to insult you until you vote for us” is a poor campaign strategy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:44:31am

re: #424 Amory Blaine

That may be true, but there could be significant non voters that would come out and maybe vote for Democrats.

Well what can we do realistically here? I think HRC tried addressing issues relating to the loss of jobs with the coal mines and a lot of these people didn’t want to listen. Mind you this, I’m a rural resident in a district and state that went for HRC and Obama twice and now has a Dem Congresswoman but my state senate/HoD seat is bright red. How do I convince my neighbors that supporting things like choice, LGBT people, and immigrants is to their benefit rather than making me a dreaded “elite”.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:44:51am

My Congressman…

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:45:00am

re: #426 darthstar

I was enjoying Avenatti’s absence from the headlines recently. I was happy to move on.

Then Geraldo had to go and Beetlejuice him.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:45:10am

re: #386 Patricia Kayden

The Trump Administration does not understand how government is run because the sum total of their knowledge about it (and everything else) comes from far right wing fever swamp conspiracy-addled websites …and Fox News. All of these woeful nests of vipers and abject liars proclaimed Obama was a dictator.

They absorbed this bunk and now is ingrained in their heads dictatorship is the de facto government model.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:45:14am

re: #419 HappyWarrior

I get him and I do think we should listen to rural America but rural America also shouldn’t get a pass for its faults either and get told that it’s “real America.” I’m not saying JD is doing that here but rural America’s got its faults that its advocates ignore. And I’m not saying urban America doesn’t but there’s a reason why Steve King has been successful in that district.

and tbh, the main reason why JD Scholten was so close was because King didn’t even bother to run a campaign until the weekend before the election.

I’m not faulting JD here, but there was a bit of luck in play that prevented the final result from being far worse.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:46:32am

re: #430 makeitstop

Then Geraldo had to go and Beetlejuice him.

I liked Beetlejuice better when he was Batman. /

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:46:44am

re: #427 Decatur Deb

“We’re going to insult you until you vote for us” is a poor campaign strategy.

But that’s the thing. Democratic candidates aren’t insulting rural voters. Republican candidates meanwhile can literally talk about how certain parts of the state they’re campaigning in aren’t the “Real state here” with little to no blowback. I saw it with Palin. I saw it with George Allen when he called that kid a Macaca even though that kid was more of a Virginian than Allen was. Maybe we could listen to rural voters more and their issues, I concede that but if it comes at sacrificing our core values, I can’t do that, I’m not going to do that to appease a bunch of people who think it’s elitist to support a government that invests in its people.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:47:16am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:47:54am

re: #432 Myron Falwell

and tbh, the main reason why JD Scholten was so close was because King didn’t even bother to run a campaign until the weekend before the election.

I’m not faulting JD here, but there was a bit of luck in play that prevented the final result from being far worse.

There was yeah. I mean I’m glad he ran and I encourage anyone who will run to run but this woe is me stuff with rural voters just turns me off and once again I am technically a rural one myself.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:49:06am

Sorry Amory and DD but I heard too much crap over the years from rural voters that people like me aren’t real Virginians because I’m in the dreaded liberal Northern part of the state and I hate to say this because it may make me sound like a snob but the Northern part of Virginia they so hate is why our state is successful.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:49:36am

re: #282 sagehen

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only 1/3 of a percent of GDP.
Coincidentally, it’s also 1/3 of a percent of the US population.

Bob Seger - Feel Like a Number

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:50:55am

21 year old FORMER prison guard.
Ex-girlfriend says he “always hated people”, but thought nothing of it when he recently bought a gun

How the fuck are you a former anything at 21?
I mean, beside paperboy/fast food worker.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:51:14am

re: #432 Myron Falwell

and tbh, the main reason why JD Scholten was so close was because King didn’t even bother to run a campaign until the weekend before the election.

I’m not faulting JD here, but there was a bit of luck in play that prevented the final result from being far worse.

It sounds like he ran a smaller scale version of what Beto ran. Beto went everywhere in Texas, multiple times, talked to people, voiced their concerns, and….they voted for Cruz, and reelected Republicans to all of the top offices in the state.

The problem with his statement is it actually perpetuates the myth that Democrats aren’t concerned about rural people. There’s a whole list of things that Democrats put on the table for rural people, of which spending on education is one of them (because the school tends to be one of the biggest employers). They’re just not “only for” rural people.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:52:11am

If Obama ever said anything like. Pfft those voters in rural whatever. They’re not real Americans like us that live in the cities, he would have gotten crucified. Meanwhile, Republican candidates routinely insist that people who live in cities are immoral and don’t have “values.” It’s a crock of shit done to give rural America a sense of superiority it doesn’t deserve. We’re all Americans from the most rural and isolated town to the densest part of NYC or LA.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:53:09am

re: #439 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

21 year old FORMER prison guard.
Ex-girlfriend says he “always hated people”, but thought nothing of it when he recently bought a gun

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How the fuck are you a former anything at 21?
I mean, beside paperboy/fast food worker.

And how much of an asshole do you have to be to get bounced from being a prison guard?

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:54:00am

re: #439 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

His ex said that he was expelled from school because he dreamed of killing his classmates.

Yeah, he sounds real stable and the sort that should have access to firearms and be responsible for guarding people/things.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:54:03am

re: #418 Belafon

I really would like to end the narrative that Democrats don’t take rural areas seriously. I’m really serious that a whole lot of them vote because they are racist. Democrats create programs to help both rural and city people and yet rural peole refuse to look at them because they help “those others.”

This only happens if the Dems can figure out a way to convince rural Americans that “Democrat” isn’t a dirty word. That the party is not a group of yuppie, gun grabbing, god hating communists.

And that’s a tall order. You can point to Doug Jones in Alabama but he only won because his opponent was exceptionally awful. Even still, he beat Moore by only 1.5 PERCENT. One of the worst Republicans that’s ever been STILL almost won election in a deep red state.

This is the uphill battle Democrats face in the South and in rural regions.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:54:18am

re: #440 Belafon

It sounds like he ran a smaller scale version of what Beto ran. Beto went everywhere in Texas, multiple times, talked to people, voiced their concerns, and….they voted for Cruz, and reelected Republicans to all of the top offices in the state.

The problem with his statement is it actually perpetuates the myth that Democrats aren’t concerned about rural people. There’s a whole list of things that Democrats put on the table for rural people, of which spending on education is one of them (because the school tends to be one of the biggest employers). They’re just not “only for” rural people.

Democrats are the ones that support expanding high speed internet access to rural araes for example and what do they get, a bunch of crap about how they don’t “understand” people out there. We support disaster relief funding when hurricanes and tornadoes hit regardless of whether the state or county voted. But because we don’t tell homogeneous groups “Yeah you’re the real Americans and they are not” we get accused of looking down on them. I’m sorry but it really pisses me off and I wish JD wouldn’t humor that crap.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:55:16am

re: #434 HappyWarrior

But that’s the thing. Democratic candidates aren’t insulting rural voters. Republican candidates meanwhile can literally talk about how certain parts of the state they’re campaigning in aren’t the “Real state here” with little to no blowback. I saw it with Palin. I saw it with George Allen when he called that kid a Macaca even though that kid was more of a Virginian than Allen was. Maybe we could listen to rural voters more and their issues, I concede that but if it comes at sacrificing our core values, I can’t do that, I’m not going to do that to appease a bunch of people who think it’s elitist to support a government that invests in its people.

The clever but easily misrepresented term “Deplorables” might be enough to explain the loss of the critical 80000 missing votes . The candidates don’t have to be the messenger—we have a lot of half-baked “influencers”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:55:48am

re: #442 makeitstop

And how much of an asshole do you have to be to get bounced from being a prison guard?

Best guess? Dude probably stopped showing up for work.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:56:14am

re: #444 Eclectic Cyborg

This only happens if the Dems can figure out a way to convince rural Americans that “Democrat” isn’t a dirty word. That the party is not a group of yuppie, gun grabbing, god hating communists.

And that’s a tall order. You can point to Doug Jones in Alabama but he only won because his opponent was exceptionally awful. Even still, he beat Moore by only 1.5 PERCENT. One of the worst Republicans that’s ever been STILL almost won election in a deep red state.

This is the uphill battle Democrats face in the South and in rural regions.

It’s not just the South. We have that problem in the part of Central PA where my mom’s aunt and cousins live too. They’re uncomfortable with that we’re pro-choice and stuff like that. But here’s the thing when we support LGBT people, we’re not just going to bat for the affluent LGBT business owner in San Francisco, we’re going to bat for the LGBT kid in rural Iowa who feels like an outcast too.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:57:04am

re: #439 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

21 year old FORMER prison guard.
Ex-girlfriend says he “always hated people”, but thought nothing of it when he recently bought a gun

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How the fuck are you a former anything at 21?
I mean, beside paperboy/fast food worker.

I’m so old I remember when a bank shooting was just about the money.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:58:11am

re: #446 Decatur Deb

The clever but easily misrepresented term “Deplorables” might be enough to explain the loss of the critical 80000 missing votes . The candidates don’t have to be the messenger—we have a lot of half-baked “influencers”.

Well I’m sorry but when your supporters chant “Lock her up”, what is HRC supposed to say and don’t forget “Trump that bitch.” We repeatedly are reduced to being moochers by Republican candidates. Repeatedly. Told that we are not producitve members of society. Republicans and right wingers love to btich about identity politics when they’re the ones who are the biggest proponents of them versus us politics and no one is more guilty of that than Trump when he uses the tragedy of murdered loved ones to scapegoat immigrants.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:58:32am

re: #444 Eclectic Cyborg

Bless you.

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2019 • 8:59:10am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:00:11am

re: #442 makeitstop

And how much of an asshole do you have to be to get bounced from being a prison guard?

re: #447 Eclectic Cyborg

Best guess? Dude probably stopped showing up for work.

Or, he was unable to control/intimidated by the prisoners.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:00:16am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

Well I’m sorry but when your supporters chant “Lock her up”, what is HRC supposed to say and don’t forget “Trump that bitch.” We repeatedly are reduced to being moochers by Republican candidates. Repeatedly. Told that we are not producitve members of society. Republicans and right wingers love to btich about identity politics when they’re the ones who are the biggest proponents of them versus us politics and no one is more guilty of that than Trump when he uses the tragedy of murdered loved ones to scapegoat immigrants.

I dunno. Maybe when they go low, we go high. I heard that somehere.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:01:32am

re: #443 lawhawk

This kid lived inside a video game…… That is all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:01:34am

I would be more amiable to this conversation if there was a willingness to call out the right for their disgusting attacks on Americans who live in our coasts and in our cities. I can’t tell you how many times I saw the fact that HRC winning NY and CA being the reason she won the popular vote didn’t matter. Last I saw, NY and CA are part of these United States.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:03:09am

re: #446 Decatur Deb

The clever but easily misrepresented term “Deplorables” might be enough to explain the loss of the critical 80000 missing votes . The candidates don’t have to be the messenger—we have a lot of half-baked “influencers”.

Deplorable didn’t change any minds.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:03:47am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

I dunno. Maybe when they go low, we go high. I heard that somehere.

I get that, I do. I’m just saying. She didn’t even call out rural people with that. If rural people saw themselves when HRC called out the Trump supporters who frankly do act like a bunch of brownshirts, that really shouldn’t be on her. Maybe it wasn’t the PC thing to say but you know what, a lot of Trump supporters are deplorable. A lot of Republican voters- people who boo openly gay service members, people who chant let him die, and people who go along for the smear campaign of a Gold Star Dad because the man was Muslim and are okay with attacking the ethnicity of a judge are assholes.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:03:49am

We don’t have to pander to racists. There is a momentum building and now is the time to expand offices!

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Jay C  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:03:57am

re: #417 Amory Blaine

I know some lizards here have been ringing the alarm bell for a while.

Iowan Who Almost Beat Steve King Wants Democrats To Take Rural America Seriously

A lot of fluff in that HuffPost piece, but Scholten is basically spot-on in his political analysis. Though obviously skipping around the main problems Democrats face in “rural America”, I.e. the fundamentally retrograde cultural matrix, especially as it relates to racial, religious and class issues. Both “conservative” in the sense of resisting changes, and (especially in political manifestations) vigorously reactionary in trying to undo virtually anything that is seen as threatening said matrix, I.e. anything even remotely “liberal” - even where rebranded as “progessive”.

JD is right that the Democrats ought to make more of an effort to connect with rural/agricultural voters: but the big roadblock can be seen in all those “Cletus Safari” pieces the MSM loves to run: Farmer Bob out there in Heartland County, USA, who is seeing his export business being gutted by Trump’s inane tariff wars: but still won’t entertain for a nanosecond the notion of voting against him, or the GOP…

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:04:06am

Not a Photoshop; visible on Google earth.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:05:04am

re: #457 Belafon

Deplorable didn’t change any minds.

It was easily weaponized and hardened their sense of alienation. They wore it on t-shirts just like I wore “Bad Hombre” to Clinton rallies.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:06:00am

re: #459 Amory Blaine

We don’t have to pander to racists. There is a momentum building and now is the time to expand offices!

I agree with that but I’m just saying, we do address issues that these communities should be amiable to i.e. better access to high speed internet, more funding for schools, etc and it’s ignored. I definitely did love Beto’s approach of going anywhere he could and I really hope it’s replicated in the future but there has to be a desire to speak unpopular truths which is what Beto did when he defended the kneeling for the national anthem.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:07:39am

re: #460 Jay C

A lot of fluff in that HuffPost piece, but Scholten is basically spot-on in his political analysis. Though obviously skipping around the main problems Democrats face in “rural America”, I.e. the fundamentally retrograde cultural matrix, especially as it relates to racial, religious and class issues. Both “conservative” in the sense of resisting changes, and (especially in political manifestations) vigorously reactionary in trying to undo virtually anything that is seen as threatening said matrix, I.e. anything even remotely “liberal” - even where rebranded as “progessive”.

JD is right that the Democrats ought to make more of an effort to connect with rural/agricultural voters: but the big roadblock can be seen in all those “Cletus Safari” pieces the MSM loves to run: Farmer Bob out there in Heartland County, USA, who is seeing his export business being gutted by Trump’s inane tariff wars: but still won’t entertain for a nanosecond the notion of voting against him, or the GOP…

I definitely think we can do that and retain our values. Definitely when we’re out there and I’m sure candidates like JD have done this, point out that Trump’s trade agricultural policies hurt the farmer and that the incumbent GOP congressman either went along with it or has said nothing of criqiue.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:07:51am

re: #260 Citizen K

Shot and chaser:

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This is what an actual oligarchy looks like.

I thought Wilbur Ross, like Trump was lying about his net worth.
time.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:08:39am

re: #461 jaunte

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Not a Photoshop; visible on Google earth.

That could make a great set for a movie or TV show.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:08:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:10:26am

re: #414 makeitstop

Now that is one damn weird choice to cover. I was never able to grasp what Fleetwood Mac was getting at with that record.

Too much coke…Chadbourne covered it when he got snowed in for a weekend, so a good choice.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:10:55am

It is definitely frustrating for sure, but it is a worthy goal imho.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:11:27am

re: #462 Decatur Deb

It was easily weaponized and hardened their sense of alienation. They wore it on t-shirts just like I wore “Bad Hombre” to Clinton rallies.

If Republicans hadn’t talked about taco trucks on every corner, would you have stayed home on election day?

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:12:12am

re: #467 lawhawk

re: #468 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Talk about too much coke…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:12:14am

Honestly, the polarization between rural and urban areas progressed — or regressed — to the point where “deplorable” became the self-identifier it did (which can be up for some room for interpretation as social media amplified it with a whole lot of less-than-legit accounts, but I digress).

Rural America Predominantly white males in the Midwest, South and less-populated states like Iowa and Wyoming wasn’t weren’t going to vote for Hillary in 2016. That remark gave them cover. And yet, it wasn’t Hillary’s fault for speaking the truth, she simply wound up gaslit.

Edited for clarity.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:12:57am

re: #462 Decatur Deb

It was easily weaponized and hardened their sense of alienation. They wore it on t-shirts just like I wore “Bad Hombre” to Clinton rallies.

And she only said that the subset of DT supporters who do deplorable things are deplorable. If we have to overlook that to gain their votes… well, I guess we’ll just have to keep working on energizing our voter base. Seems to have worked pretty well in the midterms.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:14:16am

Current mood:

Crossing between Eat the Rich and Living on the Edge:

Aerosmith - Livin’ On The Edge

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Teukka  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:14:18am

re: #467 lawhawk

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:14:26am

re: #467 lawhawk

Goddamit, I forgot Larry Kudlow was still alive. There’s a voice of competence and moral integrity ////////////////////////////////-infinity

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:14:44am

re: #469 Amory Blaine

It is definitely frustrating for sure, but it is a worthy goal imho.

Actually, I’m not against talking to more people. I think Democrats need to make sure they talk to everyone. I’m actually just against his characterization that Democrats are ignoring rural areas. He’s perpetuating a myth. I think he and others should say that “Democrats will continue to pursue solutions that work for all Americans”.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:15:00am

re: #443 lawhawk

His ex said that he was expelled from school because he dreamed of killing his classmates.

Yeah, he sounds real stable and the sort that should have access to firearms and be responsible for guarding people/things.

A kid in the next town has been kicked off the school bus for threatening two kindergartners that he was going to go home to get a shotgun and kill them and theirs. The kid is in second grade. He has also been removed from the house he was living in. Last year when something similar happened, the principal got fired. New principal, new crisis handling methods, but we newspaper followers of events don’t get many details.

Also, three prisoners have died in the county jail in the past two years.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:16:09am

re: #470 Belafon

If Republicans hadn’t talked about taco trucks on every corner, would you have stayed home on election day?

I’m a fanatic. The people I try to register and get to the polls have lives. And it’s getting a lot harder to reach them.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:17:14am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:17:20am

I gure: #477 Belafon

Actually, I’m not against talking to more people. I think Democrats need to make sure they talk to everyone. I’m actually just against his characterization that Democrats are ignoring rural areas. He’s perpetuating a myth. I think he and others should say that “Democrats will continue to pursue solutions that work for all Americans”.

This. Sorry if my comments were taken the wrong way. We definitely should listen to them. But I think it’s a two way street too. There’s this construct that has formed that the social issues we talk about don’t apply to rural America but I would argue they apply just as much if not more.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:18:03am
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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:18:35am

Nobody is taking it the wrong way, we’re just having a little discussion that’s all.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:19:06am

re: #473 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

And she only said that the subset of DT supporters who do deplorable things are deplorable. If we have to overlook that to gain their votes… well, I guess we’ll just have to keep working on energizing our voter base. Seems to have worked pretty well in the midterms.

We busted our humps with an ideal candidate. She lost 2:1 against a lackluster GOP Representative who didn’t break a sweat.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:19:59am

re: #468 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Too much coke…Chadbourne covered it when he got snowed in for a weekend, so a good choice.

Yeah. The video for the title track screams ‘We’ve got an unlimited budget and a blow dealer on speed dial!’

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:20:26am
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jaunte  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:20:32am

It’s Kondo Time for the kakistocracy.

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Jay C  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:20:38am

re: #476 Myron Falwell

Goddamit, I forgot Larry Kudlow was still alive. There’s a voice of competence and moral integrity ////////////////////////////////-infinity

I sometimes think that the Administration keeps Larry Kudlow on staff solely to fill the position of Official Court Jester/Designated Buffoon - i.e., his job is to say stupid stuff on public media so that the other stupid stuff coming out of this incompetent Admin gets ignored/looks better by comparison.

Unfortunately, Kudlow might be serious…..

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:20:53am

re: #482 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Putin gets a good return on investment.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:21:31am

‘Rural America’ is conservaspeech for white people. They’re never talking about New Mexico, one of the most rural states.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:23:22am

re: #490 wrenchwench

‘Rural America’ is conservaspeech for white people. They’re never talking about New Mexico, one of the most rural states.

It is also a code word for “non-Urban America”

and we all know who lives in Urban America…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:23:34am

re: #483 Amory Blaine

Nobody is taking it the wrong way, we’re just having a little discussion that’s all.

I know. Just wanted to make it clear I wasn’t trying to come off as hostile to waht you and DD are saying. I would love it if we were competitive everywhere. The Dean 50 State Strategy definitely was a good one and I love that we made gains in places like Kansas where tehy not only elected a Dem governor but it wasn’t even close. Kobach lost by more than Gillespie did here.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:23:38am

I just hope we’re able to capitalize on the shrinking popularity of the republican party. Plus there the real possibility that everything could go to shit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:23:58am

re: #461 jaunte

@Areas_Abandoned
Mudurnu, Turkey: 587 castle homes after the developer went bankrupt.

Not a Photoshop; visible on Google earth.

Yes, I would like a castle like home.
But
I want it surrounded by several hundred nearly identical castle like dwellings. All within spitting distance.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:24:21am

re: #490 wrenchwench

‘Rural America’ is conservaspeech for white people. They’re never talking about New Mexico, one of the most rural states.

Darn it, you’re right, I goofed on that.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:24:21am

re: #490 wrenchwench

‘Rural America’ is conservaspeech for white people. They’re never talking about New Mexico, one of the most rural states.

Great point. Along those lines: “So, how do you think your solutions will help Native Americans?”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:24:27am

re: #490 wrenchwench

‘Rural America’ is conservaspeech for white people. They’re never talking about New Mexico, one of the most rural states.

Middle America unfortunately has come to mean the same thing. It’s not about suburbites of color but only whites.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:25:41am

re: #491 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is also a code word for “non-Urban America”

and we all know who lives in Urban America…

The majority of Americans.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:25:57am

What I like is the idea of doing is pointing out to voters that call us elites or elitists that their policies are the elitist ones. Their policies are the ones designed to benefit the fewest possible people. They help those who don’t need help at the expense of those who do.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:25:58am

re: #491 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hipsters and retired boomers?

//

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:26:21am

re: #494 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Seems like a really expensive satire on the concept of a gated community.

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lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:26:56am

re: #486 Dave In Austin

That’s part of the plan. Damage and sabotage functioning government, so when these government agencies fail in their mission, the GOP turns around and says that their funding should be cut because they’re not fulfilling their mission (that they sabotaged).

Rinse and repeat. This is the GOP long con.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:29:40am

re: #488 Jay C

I sometimes think that the Administration keeps Larry Kudlow on staff solely to fill the position of Official Court Jester/Designated Buffoon - i.s., his job is to say stupid stuff on public media so that the other stupid stuff coming out of this incompetent Admin gets ignored/looks better by comparison.

Unfortunately, Kudlow might be serious…..

Kudlow’s serious when he’s supposed to be hilariously stupid, while Rudy is hilariously stupid when he should be serious.

That actually checks out.

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:30:43am

re: #496 Belafon

Great point. Along those lines: “So, how do you think your solutions will help Native Americans?”

Arizona looks and sounds very white on TV, but there are a huge variety of peoples and cultures there. Some of them have never taken an interest in politics or being seen on TV. Each town, everywhere (on the earth) is a big world. If there’s only one culture, it’s usually by design, sometimes by force

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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:32:34am

re: #493 Amory Blaine

I just hope we’re able to capitalize socialize on the shrinking popularity of the republican party. Plus there the real possibility that everything could go to shit.

Fight me?

/

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:32:55am

re: #501 jaunte

Seems like a really expensive satire on the concept of a gated community.

I can’t imagine trying to find my way home after even some mild drinking

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:33:04am

Well then. Schumer speaking for all of us.

Sorry ol’ Wilbur but you asked for it.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:34:53am

re: #507 Myron Falwell

Well then. Schumer speaking for all of us.

Sorry ol’ Wilbur but you asked for it.

How many cries of “Democrats are calling for revolution” will there be?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:35:06am

re: #507 Myron Falwell

Well then. Schumer speaking for all of us.

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Sorry ol’ Wilbur but you asked for it.

Schumer is getting better at this. I know a lot wanted him gone after the first two years but I think he just needed to gain some experience and I do think seeing how tough Pelosi has been has made him better too.

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gwangung  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:35:32am

re: #508 Belafon

How many cries of “Democrats are calling for revolution” will there be?

Folks HAVE been calling for it….how bloody it will be depends on the oligarchs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:35:51am

re: #508 Belafon

How many cries of “Democrats are calling for revolution” will there be?

Tucker will be saying that Schumer called for Ross to be beheaded. Yeah I can see the fauxrage already from the same people who insist they’re against policing language.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:35:55am

Off to see what the storms did to my garden. We must tend our garden.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:36:31am
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wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:37:23am

re: #512 Decatur Deb

Off to see what the storms did to my garden. We must tend our garden.

I gotta go for a ‘run’. Working on my ‘natural’ stride length.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:38:22am

re: #511 HappyWarrior

Tucker will be saying that Schumer called for Ross to be beheaded. Yeah I can see the fauxrage already from the same people who insist they’re against policing language.

Or the same people who called for Obama to be ousted.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:38:40am

I gotta hit the hay. Been a long night. Enjoy the day, lizards!

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Chrysicat  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:38:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:38:47am

re: #508 Belafon

How many cries of “Democrats are calling for revolution” will there be?

First they came for billionaires but I said nothing as I was only worth 708 million…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:38:51am

re: #515 Belafon

Or the same people who called for Obama to be ousted.

Right.

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makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:39:34am

Between Ross, Kudlow and Lara Trump, we might as well just start calling them the ‘let them eat cake party.’

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retired cynic  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:39:58am

re: #461 jaunte

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Not a Photoshop; visible on Google earth.

INSANE!

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:40:16am

Marco is spewing how Venezuela needs to be rebuilt. Elec. and toad infrastructure… Bla Bla Bla.

All I can think of is P.R. WTF!

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:40:26am

re: #520 makeitstop

Between Ross, Kudlow and Lara Trump, we might as well just start calling them the ‘let them eat cake party.’

I think the term is “elite.”

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jaunte  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:40:29am

“…Democrats are now operating from the premise that this is really what’s at stake: Whether Trump and McConnell will recognize the outcome of the last election going forward.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:40:58am

re: #513 Dave In Austin

Are willing to send your young men and women to fight for DonaldTrump’s power grab in Venezuela.

ones who would not have us go defend our NATO ally Montenegro if it were attacked, mostly because they do not even know where the fuck it is

Much less that they have contributed troops to supports US forces in the Middle East

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:41:21am

re: #522 Dave In Austin

Marco is spewing how Venezuela needs to be rebuilt. Elec. and toad infrastructure… Bla Bla Bla.

All I can think of is P.R. WTF!

Venezuela does have its problems but Marco’s just agitating for another war he’ll never serve in because Marco’s a coward.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:44:52am

Saw this as a comment from cvonhagel over on Talking Points Memo, and it was so apt, I’ve copypasta’d it here, because this is the EXACT SAME THING my relatives in Wisconsin have been saying.

Each and every step of the way.

Gee, whoda thunk it?

Joe Reasonable Conservative, 2007: I had to support the Iraq war, because everybody knew Saddam had WMD’s, and overthrowing him would bring democracy, I thought. And 9/11. But now that I see what’s actually happened, maybe I was too optimistic. I can see now how it mght have been more complicated.

Joe Reasonable Conservative, 2009: I used to think everyone who didn’t have a job was just too lazy to work, or who lost their job just wasn’t a hard enough worker, or everyone who lost their house just wasn’t careful enough with money, but now that it’s happened to me, and lots of people I know, during the economic crash, I can see how it’s more complicated than that.

Joe Reasonable Conservative, 2019: I had to support Trump in the election to shake things up, and because Hillary represented the status quo, and her emails, but now I can see maybe Trump’s wall obsession is a bit of a simplistic fixation. It’s more complicated than that.

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retired cynic  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:44:54am

re: #501 jaunte

Seems like a really expensive satire on the concept of a gated community.

It looks like a glacier of bad taste.

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sagehen  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:45:52am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!

Is this Anti-Semitism? Or is only Farrakhan the Anti-Semitism?

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“In addition, the local school district runs large deficits because it receives funding only for the 6,000 kids who attend public school, but must provide buses for the additional 30,000 who attend private schools.”

Which somehow, they think is just fine in towns where the private schools are Christian, and how dare anybody complain…

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Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:47:00am
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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:47:19am

re: #524 jaunte

“…Democrats are now operating from the premise that this is really what’s at stake: Whether Trump and McConnell will recognize the outcome of the last election going forward.”

As I said above, they’re trying to do what Wisconsin, Michigan, and North Carolina Republicans have tried to do.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:50:17am

re: #530 Dave In Austin

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Nah Marco wants to save the world from commies because helping PR would be an acknowledgement that right wing policy failed PR. And he can’t have that.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:52:15am

re: #524 jaunte

Greg nailed it. Speaker Pelosi knew exactly how to hit Trump where it hurt him the most. His ego. And she’s more than willing to do it to him again if needed.

re: #531 Belafon

As I said above, they’re trying to do what Wisconsin, Michigan, and North Carolina Republicans have tried to do.

And she’s not yielding. Her steadfastness is admirable and it’s rubbing off on Schumer.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:53:48am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:54:20am

She’s knows Trump is a boy trying to play a man’s game (and deep down Trump knows this too even though he’d never admit it). It’s like a quarterback who goes straight from high school to playing against Tom Brady in the Super Bowl: An easy way to get your ass handed to you.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:57:11am

re: #534 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Are they still trying to round up votes at this moment?

Something tells me that there could be those unwilling to publicly commit to it because of a shitload of pressure they’d face, but what in the hell do I know.

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Jay C  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:59:34am

re: #536 Myron Falwell

Are they still trying to round up votes at this moment?

Something tells me that there could be those unwilling to publicly commit to it because of a shitload of pressure they’d face, but what in the hell do I know.

You might be right, but since Senate votes are (usually - except for the occasional “voice vote”/unanimous resolution) a matter of public record, even the most reticent GOPers are going to have to own to up to something or other sooner or later.

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freetoken  Jan 24, 2019 • 9:59:38am

re: #534 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Only 4 Republicans are needed to pass the Dem bill.

The extra ones are needed to force McConnell’s hand. If Mitch would just let the Senate vote on the House-passed CRs, the CRs would pass.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:00:58am

Posting this here so you can use the meme next time some wingnut gets all butthurt:

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sagehen  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:02:51am

re: #441 HappyWarrior

If Obama ever said anything like. Pfft those voters in rural whatever. They’re not real Americans like us that live in the cities, he would have gotten crucified. Meanwhile, Republican candidates routinely insist that people who live in cities are immoral and don’t have “values.” It’s a crock of shit done to give rural America a sense of superiority it doesn’t deserve. We’re all Americans from the most rural and isolated town to the densest part of NYC or LA.

He did get crucified, for his “bitterly clinging to their guns and religion” comment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:07:59am

re: #540 sagehen

He did get crucified, for his “bitterly clinging to their guns and religion” comment.

True that. But he never had a statement where he flat out said that they weren’t real Americans.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:09:04am

re: #538 freetoken

Only 4 Republicans are needed to pass the Dem bill.

The extra ones are needed to force McConnell’s hand. If Mitch would just let the Senate vote on the House-passed CRs, the CRs would pass.

Is Mitch that stupid to fumble away his best possible shot at escaping this mess and making it even worse on himself and everyone else? I guess we’ll find out.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:09:04am

re: #480 Dave In Austin

Andrew Feinberg

@AndrewFeinberg
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HAPPENING NOW: @larry_kudlow says federal workers forced to work without pay are “volunteering.”

Andrew Collins
@Bandinellosaul
The Trump Cabinet has gone full Marie Antoinette on us today. SMH

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And we all recall what happened to Marie Antoinette and the administration to which she belonged. Let’s hope for a similar — but less violent — overthrow of all those who support the GOP and Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:09:44am

re: #522 Dave In Austin

Marco is spewing how Venezuela needs to be rebuilt. Elec. and toad infrastructure… Bla Bla Bla.

All I can think of is P.R. WTF!

Mexico Venezuela will pay for the rebuild oil will pay for itself.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:10:56am

Ultimately, whether Trump burns everything down or ends up in jail, his defense will be: “you knew I was a snake when you took me in.”

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Old Liberal  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:11:46am

re: #419 HappyWarrior

I get him and I do think we should listen to rural America but rural America also shouldn’t get a pass for its faults either and get told that it’s “real America.” I’m not saying JD is doing that here but rural America’s got its faults that its advocates ignore. And I’m not saying urban America doesn’t but there’s a reason why Steve King has been successful in that district.

I lived in “real America” the last ten years. I spent my first 18 years there. You can’t appreciate just how profoundly stupid these areas have become over past 40 years. You can’t help people who are willfully stupid and profoundly obstinate. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:12:09am

If Mexico had only agreed to pay for The Wall which is already Built but which needs moar Wall we wouldn’t have this long shutdown.

/////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:13:48am

re: #439 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

21 year old FORMER prison guard.
Ex-girlfriend says he “always hated people”, but thought nothing of it when he recently bought a gun

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How the fuck are you a former anything at 21?
I mean, beside paperboy/fast food worker.

He was a corrections officer trainee.
He quit after about 2 months on the job.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:14:35am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:14:54am

re: #542 Myron Falwell

Is Mitch that stupid to fumble away his best possible shot at escaping this mess and making it even worse on himself and everyone else?

I’m going to go with yes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:15:30am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good god, that’s abhorrent.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:15:45am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

About time we got a Soros meme.

/

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freetoken  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:15:51am

Wilbur Ross is being rightfully crucified on twitter…. but he’s stolen the spotlight of hard-heartedness from Lara Trump from just a few days ago.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:16:02am

re: #550 Eclectic Cyborg

(stabs my eyes with toothpicks)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:16:29am

re: #545 Barefoot Grin

Ultimately, whether Trump burns everything down or ends up in jail, his defense will be: “you knew I was a snake when you took me in.”

“Look what you made me do!”

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KGxvi  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:16:38am

re: #541 HappyWarrior

True that. But he never had a statement where he flat out said that they weren’t real Americans.

This goes back to the founding and the difference between Jeffersonians and Hamiltonians. Jefferson’s fascination with mythical yeomen farmers was accompanied by a disdain for merchants and banks and other city folk. Hamilton, from what I’ve read, didn’t have disdain for the country folk.

That split is the same strong (Hamilton) vs weak (Jefferson) federal government debate we’ve been having since 1792

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:18:19am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hash tags are like bumper stickers. It’s not the type, but the number that tell you how wigged out the other person is.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:18:33am

re: #480 Dave In Austin

Let them eat cake taco bowls.

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KGxvi  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:20:29am

re: #545 Barefoot Grin

Ultimately, whether Trump burns everything down or ends up in jail, his defense will be: “you knew I was a snake when you took me in.”

The scorpion and the swan… it is his nature

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:20:35am

re: #546 Old Liberal

I lived in “real America” the last ten years. I spent my first 18 years there. You can’t appreciate just how profoundly stupid these areas have become over past 40 years. You can’t help people who are willfully stupid and profoundly obstinate. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

I also see this as the cuts in public education that started under Reagan and continued in a downward spiral coming home to roost.

Now it is truly the case that people are openly proud of their stupidity and wear it as a badge of deplorable identity.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:20:39am

re: #550 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m going to go with yes.

Which is baffling in that, by denying a vote because it can’t reach cloture — even though passage is likely, he’d hand the Democrats even more leverage to use against him.

Mitch may not be the sharpest mind that everyone thinks he is. Stubborn and smart are not synonymous.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:20:43am

There they go again…

“The Trump administration announced Wednesday it will allow a ministry in South Carolina that only works with heterosexual Christian families to participate in a federally funded foster care program.

That means Miracle Hill Ministries can receive federal funding to participate in the program while not working with non-Christians, or those who identify as LGBT.

The organization was in violation of a regulation issued by the Obama administration that states organizations receiving funds from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) can’t discriminate on the basis of religion or sexual orientation.

But Trump’s HHS issued an exemption for the ministry to participate in the program, writing that to force it out would be a violation of its religious freedom.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:21:37am

re: #556 KGxvi

This goes back to the founding and the difference between Jeffersonians and Hamiltonians. Jefferson’s fascination with mythical yeomen farmers was accompanied by a disdain for merchants and banks and other city folk. Hamilton, from what I’ve read, didn’t have disdain for the country folk.

That split is the same strong (Hamilton) vs weak (Jefferson) federal government debate we’ve been having since 1792

Another reason to prefer Hamilton over Jefferson. You are right. It’s an old split.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:21:48am

re: #562 Eclectic Cyborg

There they go again…

The Trump administration announced Wednesday it will allow a ministry in South Carolina that only works with heterosexual Christian families to participate in a federally funded foster care program.

That means Miracle Hill Ministries can receive federal funding to participate in the program while not working with non-Christians, or those who identify as LGBT.

The organization was in violation of a regulation issued by the Obama administration that states organizations receiving funds from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) can’t discriminate on the basis of religion or sexual orientation.

But Trump’s HHS issued an exemption for the ministry to participate in the program, writing that to force it out would be a violation of its religious freedom.

It has the religious freedom to not participate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:22:14am

re: #562 Eclectic Cyborg

There they go again…

The Trump administration announced Wednesday it will allow a ministry in South Carolina that only works with heterosexual Christian families to participate in a federally funded foster care program.

That means Miracle Hill Ministries can receive federal funding to participate in the program while not working with non-Christians, or those who identify as LGBT.

The organization was in violation of a regulation issued by the Obama administration that states organizations receiving funds from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) can’t discriminate on the basis of religion or sexual orientation.

But Trump’s HHS issued an exemption for the ministry to participate in the program, writing that to force it out would be a violation of its religious freedom.

This is such crap.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:22:26am

re: #551 Eclectic Cyborg

Good god, that’s abhorrent.

It’s Ben Garrison, abhorrent is part of his brand

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:22:28am

re: #564 Belafon

It has the religious freedom to not participate.

Exactly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:23:01am

re: #566 Myron Falwell

It’s Ben Garrison, abhorrent is part of his brand

It offers a clear illustration of how the Right have come to see that incident

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:23:17am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Can always count on Ben Garrison for a cartoon that looks like it belongs in the Jim Crow south and to totally distort what happened.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:23:18am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:23:52am

re: #560 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also see this as the cuts in public education that started under Reagan and continued in a downward spiral coming home to roost.

Now it is truly the case that people are openly proud of their stupidity and wear it as a badge of deplorable identity.

I believe it was Issac Asimov who noted there’s a strong strain of anti-intellectualism in American culture and it’s been there pretty since the beginning.

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freetoken  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:26:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:26:15am

re: #571 Dr Lizardo

I believe it was Issac Asimov who noted there’s a strong strain of anti-intellectualism in American culture and it’s been there pretty since the beginning.

I think it arose from a certain intellectual and cultural inferiority complex towards Europe, we liked to believe that although although we were not as advanced in certain ways, we were morally superior to the decadent and effete Europeans.

And yes, that strain of thought never went away, even Sputnik was not enough to scare it out of us completely.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:26:37am

re: #572 freetoken

Check this headline by NPR:

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Downplayed Shutdown Hardships. Dems Raged.

RAGED!!!

WTF NPR.

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Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:27:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:27:07am

re: #572 freetoken

Check this headline by NPR:

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Downplayed Shutdown Hardships. Dems Raged.

RAGED!!!

Calling out people for boorish, insensitive or racist/sexist statements = LIBERAL RAGE

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:27:09am

re: #573 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think it arose from a certain intellectual and cultural inferiority complex towards Europe, we liked to believe that although although we were not as advanced in certain ways, we were morally superior to the decadent and effete Europeans.

And yes, that strain of thought never went away, even Sputnik was not enough to scare it out of us completely.

Well Europe wasn’t sending its best. Snicker.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:27:20am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Anyone who wears a MAGA hat should be assumed to be a racist. It is the same as a white hood.

I was in a FB exchange yesterday with a FOAF on my friend’s page— do not know the man at all. The discussion was about Covington and this man disputed my posting by saying that the “kid was standing there minding his own business”. I responded that wearing a MAGA hat and protesting a woman’s right to choose is not someone “minding his own business”. He accused me of attacking someone for “thought crimes”; i.e. like all Trumpsters, he thinks that MAGA hats are not expressing a view point.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:27:53am

re: #575 Belafon

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So when does FNC call this kid a commei for sharing. I too love peanut butter. Goes great with pretzels.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:28:49am

re: #578 Hecuba’s daughter

Anyone who wears a MAGA hat should be assumed to be a racist. It is the same as a white hood.

I was in a FB exchange yesterday with a FOAF on my friend’s page— do not know the man at all. The discussion was about Covington and this man disputed my posting by saying that the “kid was standing there minding his own business”. I responded that wearing a MAGA hat and protesting a woman’s right to choose is not someone “minding his own business”. He accused me of attacking someone for “thought crimes”; i.e. like all Trumpsters, he thinks that MAGA hats are not expressing a view point.

It’s not like the kids were in DC for a field trip to Congress or the WH. They were there to protest a right to choose. Now they have the right but they weren’t little innocents who were ambushed by a mean old Indian man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:28:50am

re: #579 HappyWarrior

So when does FNC call this kid a commei for sharing. I too love peanut butter. Goes great with pretzels.

and chili sauce
and bananas
and celery
and bacon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:29:07am

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:30:11am

re: #581 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and chili sauce
and bananas
and celery
and bacon

Gonna take your advice on Chili sauce since I have been liking the hot and sweet mix lately with my hot chocolate, Cayenne pepper mixed with hot coco is really good.

584
Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:30:12am

re: #572 freetoken

Check this headline by NPR:

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Downplayed Shutdown Hardships. Dems Raged.

RAGED!!!

The mere structure of that headline alone is nauseating.

I guess “Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Downplayed Shutdown Hardships. It didn’t go all that well.“ was too nuanced.

585
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:30:23am

re: #578 Hecuba’s daughter

He accused me of attacking someone for “thought crimes”; i.e. like all Trumpsters, he thinks that MAGA hats are not expressing a view point.

This was mentioned earlier in a post about Tucker Carlson’s rant about identity politics, that white IP somehow does not count because it is the Wonder Bread which holds the Great American Sandwich together.

586
Citizen K  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:30:30am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is the kinda shit you’d take for parody if you didn’t know the source. The fact that someone can actually draw this shit and mean it sincerely is almost praiseworthy for how disconnected from anything resembling reality it is.

587
HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:30:40am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

I’m not by nature a confrontational person but I do judge that person.

588
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:31:02am

re: #583 HappyWarrior

Gonna take your advice on Chili sauce since I have been liking the hot and sweet mix lately with my hot chocolate, Cayenne pepper mixed with hot coco is really good.

Thai sweet chili sauce is just killer with PB

589
ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:31:20am

re: #441 HappyWarrior

If Obama ever said anything like. Pfft those voters in rural whatever. They’re not real Americans like us that live in the cities, he would have gotten crucified. Meanwhile, Republican candidates routinely insist that people who live in cities are immoral and don’t have “values.” It’s a crock of shit done to give rural America a sense of superiority it doesn’t deserve. We’re all Americans from the most rural and isolated town to the densest part of NYC or LA.

He got crucified enough for saying this about rural folks:

“They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

590
freetoken  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:31:39am
591
Skip Intro  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:32:10am

re: #553 freetoken

Wilbur Ross is being rightfully crucified on twitter…. but he’s stolen the spotlight of hard-heartedness from Lara Trump from just a few days ago.

Wish I owned a guillotine factory.

592
jimmyvluv4u  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:32:29am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

A few years back, I was friendly with a coworker from WV who was about the most liberal dude ever, though you wouldn’t have guessed it off the bat from hearing his drawl. He would often say something along the lines of, “I’ve grown up and known so many people who like to fly the confederate flag. At this point in my life, if I see that I know you’re somebody I don’t even need to bother talking to because we’re going to have nothing in common and not agree on much.” That’s pretty much how I think of my interactions (or lack thereof) with anyone wearing a MAGA hat, or displaying confederate flags.

593
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:32:30am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

I see no reason to just for that.

We were talking about an incident here with a long build up and, again, one which the MAGA lads themselves proudly posted on their social media.

594
Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:32:44am

A school superintendant passed a student off as her son in order to get the child seen at a doctor, and is now being charged with fraud: dailykos.com.

595
HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:33:15am

re: #589 ObserverArt

He got crucified enough for saying this about rural folks:

“They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

And honestly they proved him right by being the biggest supporters of birtherism.

596
lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:33:25am

re: #578 Hecuba’s daughter

Online equivalents - self identifying as MAGA, deplorable, includes pepe in their bio/avatar, etc.

Block with extreme prejudice. These fuckers are out there to waste your time. They aren’t intent on engaging in civilized debate.

597
Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:34:18am

re: #581 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and chili sauce
and bananas
and celery
and bacon

I love peanut butter and bananas. Not a huge fan of celery in general, but yeah, it’s good.

Gonna have to try peanut butter and bacon.

598
Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:34:21am

re: #572 freetoken

Check this headline by NPR:

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Downplayed Shutdown Hardships. Dems Raged.

RAGED!!!

Wouldn’t have believed it. Oh wait, maybe I do believe it after all.

599
Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:34:27am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

I wouldn’t confront them for being out, but I hope they get nervous by my watching them, to make sure they don’t try to pull anything.

600
HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:34:50am

re: #596 lawhawk

Online equivalents - self identifying as MAGA, deplorable, includes pepe in their bio/avatar, etc.

Block with extreme prejudice. These fuckers are out there to waste your time. They aren’t intent on engaging in civilized debate.

I mean to me it just tells me a lot about a person without ever them uttering a word. Are all MAGA hat wearers alike? Nah but are the lot of them at the very least indifferent to Trump being a huge asshole? Yes. And I will gladly judge them as such.

601
Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:34:54am

re: #572 freetoken

Check this headline by NPR:

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Downplayed Shutdown Hardships. Dems Raged.

RAGED!!!

Dem snowflakes always raging about something.

////

602
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:35:10am

re: #594 Belafon

A school superintendant passed a student off as her son in order to get the child seen at a doctor, and is now being charged with fraud: dailykos.com.

America, 2019.

603
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:36:14am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

it’s a reason to merely point and laugh

604
Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:36:59am

This a good bookmark. This is (Peregrine Falcon)Tower Girl and her new boyfriend. I’m not sure of his name yet. The box is up on the UT Tower at the Univ. of TX Austin. They have displayed bonding behavior so we are hoping for the best.
biodiversity.utexas.edu

605
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:37:21am

re: #603 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s a reason to merely point and laugh

or come up and ask them where the hat was made…

606
Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:37:31am

“DEMS RAGED!” sounds like the title to a parody series on YouTube with someone going apeshit over something so trivial.

Like this:

Error 37 Rage, Error 3006 Rage, Diablo 3 Rage!

607
Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:38:21am

re: #600 HappyWarrior

I mean to me it just tells me a lot about a person without ever them uttering a word. Are all MAGA hat wearers alike? Nah but are the lot of them at the very least indifferent to Trump being a huge asshole? Yes. And I will gladly judge them as such.

The term A-hole understates the toxic effect this traitor has on our nation. He is a piece of treasonous trash who is deliberately and maliciously destroying our country, with the support of the Republican party in Washington. Anyone who supports him is endorsing Putin and the Trump agenda.

608
Old Liberal  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:38:43am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

I treat it as if someone was wearing an “I Just Farted” T-shirt as a warning. Giving side-eye in case they fuck with somebody. But now I live in South America Haven’t seen a MAGAt hat Yet. It’s wonderful.

609
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:39:38am

re: #474 lawhawk

Current mood:

Crossing between Eat the Rich and Living on the Edge:

[Embedded content]

CMIIW but I seem to remember that song (Living on the Edge) being used to promote the Ford Edge when it was introduced in 2006.

610
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:40:56am

moron going nutzo with the capitalization again

611
Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:41:05am

re: #572 freetoken

Check this headline by NPR:

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Downplayed Shutdown Hardships. Dems Raged.

RAGED!!!

Problem is the headline and not the article.

612
Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:41:49am

re: #610 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron going nutzo with the capitalization again

Locking you and your kids up would also reduce all of those, and more.

613
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:43:43am
614
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:44:38am
615
dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:45:25am

re: #607 Hecuba’s daughter

The term A-hole understates the toxic effect this traitor has on our nation. He is a piece of treasonous trash who is deliberately and maliciously destroying our country, with the support of the Republican party in Washington. Anyone who supports him is endorsing Putin and the Trump agenda.

You support a pig
You
Are
A
Pig
🐖

616
Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:46:31am

re: #607 Hecuba’s daughter

The term A-hole understates the toxic effect this traitor has on our nation. He is a piece of treasonous trash who is deliberately and maliciously destroying our country, with the support of the Republican party in Washington. Anyone who supports him is endorsing Putin and the Trump agenda.

The way that this red-meat base totally went for it, though… they always wanted someone who acted that way, was a bully and had no morals or ethics or anything of that sort.

It wasn’t that Trump transformed them, he just allowed them to reveal how they always had been the whole time.

617
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:47:59am

re: #529 sagehen

“In addition, the local school district runs large deficits because it receives funding only for the 6,000 kids who attend public school, but must provide buses for the additional 30,000 who attend private schools.”

Which somehow, they think is just fine in towns where the private schools are Christian, and how dare anybody complain…

Which is paid for by THE PROPERTY TAX on every homeowner, whether or not their children attend public school or if they even have children.

618
Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:48:00am

re: #610 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron going nutzo with the capitalization again

Lol, the second time in two days that he says “no Cave!”

619
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:48:30am
620
Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:49:56am

re: #613 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Democrats are like the Avengers. It may take them a little while to get traction, but you’d better get out of the way when they do.

621
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:50:25am
622
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:50:42am
623
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:51:23am
624
Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:51:23am

re: #617 The Vicious Babushka

Which is paid for by THE PROPERTY TAX on every homeowner, whether or not their children attend public school or if they even have children.

They may pay the property tax, but if the state is only basing the money on public students, they wouldn’t get any additional money for it.

625
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:54:06am

re: #572 freetoken

Check this headline by NPR:

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross Downplayed Shutdown Hardships. Dems Raged.

RAGED!!!

These fuckers haven’t seen rage yet.

626
freetoken  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:55:06am

re: #625 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That NPR writer tends to be all soft-shoe in his articles anyway. Like too much of NPR, they’ve been stripped of any real grit.

627
ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:55:17am

re: #509 HappyWarrior

Schumer is getting better at this. I know a lot wanted him gone after the first two years but I think he just needed to gain some experience and I do think seeing how tough Pelosi has been has made him better too.

I keep asking this, and so far the only answer I’ve gotten is Schumer didn’t hold up nominees for judges to allow Democrat Senator candidates to campaign.

What did Schumer do wrong his first two years when he was Senate Minority leader up against a well-entrenched McConnell in a Republican Congress?

I think the guy has gotten a bum rap, Now that he has some ability to block having a Pelosi lead Domcoratic House he can afford to get tougher. And he is.

628
ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:57:06am

re: #520 makeitstop

Between Ross, Kudlow and Lara Trump, we might as well just start calling them the ‘let them eat cake party.’

When did we stop?

I’ve used that on Republicans for years.

629
Belafon  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:57:25am

re: #627 ObserverArt

I keep asking this, and so far the only answer I’ve gotten is Schumer didn’t hold up nominees for judges to allow Democrat Senator candidates to campaign.

What did Schumer do wrong his first two years when he was Senate Minority leader up against a well-entrenched McConnell in a Republican Congress?

I think the guy has gotten a bum rap, Now that he has some ability to block having a Pelosi lead Domcoratic House he can afford to get tougher. And he is.

I think Schumer did OK with what he had. I also agree that his job has become easier, and it allows him to be more outspoken, when he now has allies that can back up his threats. When you don’t have that power, you have to work in the shadows.

630
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:57:57am

re: #610 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron going nutzo with the capitalization again

[Embedded content]

“We will not cave!”

He’s basically daring Mitch and the Senate to override him at this point.

631
gwangung  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:58:12am

Keep digging, guys….

632
goddamnedfrank  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:58:21am
633
Mike Lamb  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:58:39am

re: #621 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Holy shit. We’re operating in a universe where being forced to come in to work being rightly pointed out as pretty fucking far from “volunteering” is “semantics”? And this asshole thinks the vast majority of people are just coming in out of the goodness of their hearts?

634
lawhawk  Jan 24, 2019 • 10:59:26am
635
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:00:09am

re: #634 lawhawk

Great, just what the country needs!

*spit*

636
Myron Falwell  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:00:48am

re: #628 ObserverArt

When did we stop?

I’ve used that on Republicans for years.

Just not the actual leadership of the party saying as such. Overtly. That’s a first.

637
A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:00:50am

re: #571 Dr Lizardo

I believe it was Issac Asimov who noted there’s a strong strain of anti-intellectualism in American culture and it’s been there pretty since the beginning.

I thought it was Heinlein. Of course, could be both.

638
HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:01:51am

re: #634 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Yeah that tells me all I need to know about you Nick. Hopefully you grow up before then.

639
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:03:56am
640
ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:07:07am

re: #551 Eclectic Cyborg

Good god, that’s abhorrent.

I think Garrison’s cartoons are funny in their own way. They are so over the top and wingnutty they become their own documentation of how absurd he and wingnuts can be.

Fun from fevered minds.

641
Sir John Barron  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:07:16am

re: #634 lawhawk

Well that makes one Stephen Miller acolyte.

642
ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:08:19am

re: #553 freetoken

Wilbur Ross is being rightfully crucified on twitter…. but he’s stolen the spotlight of hard-heartedness from Lara Trump from just a few days ago.

He couldn’t let a little lady take the spotlight.

But there is never a low too low in Trumplandia.

643
HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:08:24am

re: #640 ObserverArt

I think Garrison’s cartoons are funny in their own way. They are so over the top and wingnutty they become their own documentation of how absurd he and wingnuts can be.

Fun from fevered minds.

They’re absurd but they’re also often racist. They’re almost like a cartoon version of what a wingnut political cartoonist would be.

644
Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:09:35am

re: #637 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I thought it was Heinlein. Of course, could be both.

Asimov:
goodreads.com

645
makeitstop  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:09:40am

re: #639 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m struck by how much he looks like the Sebring FL bank shooter.

And they both look like that kidnapper who killed his victim’s parents.

I’m becoming convinced that there’s an incel greenhouse somewhere.

646
A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:12:21am

re: #627 ObserverArt

I keep asking this, and so far the only answer I’ve gotten is Schumer didn’t hold up nominees for judges to allow Democrat Senator candidates to campaign.

What did Schumer do wrong his first two years when he was Senate Minority leader up against a well-entrenched McConnell in a Republican Congress?

I think the guy has gotten a bum rap, Now that he has some ability to block having a Pelosi lead Domcoratic House he can afford to get tougher. And he is.

I keep saying that. Everyone agrees. Then they go back to “Schumer learning from Pelosi.” Sigh.

647
Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:14:15am

re: #616 Myron Falwell

The way that this red-meat base totally went for it, though… they always wanted someone who acted that way, was a bully and had no morals or ethics or anything of that sort.

It wasn’t that Trump transformed them, he just allowed them to reveal how they always had been the whole time.

Yep - all the assholes finally found their King Asshole.

648
Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:14:39am

re: #634 lawhawk

Mac McKinsey
@MacMcKinseyIV
Kentucky’s Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann quoted during Savannah Guthrie interview: “I want to grow up to be Stephen Miller.”

1,198
11:34 AM - Jan 23, 2019

Sounds like an Internet joke — not something Sandmann ever actually said.

649
plansbandc  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:15:37am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Would never choose to interact with a MAGA hat wearer. I would immediately assume that they were racist, selfish, mean, and stupid.

It’s like the Calvin peeing decal with extra special added racism.

No thanks.

650
Jay C  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:15:56am

re: #627 ObserverArt

I keep asking this, and so far the only answer I’ve gotten is Schumer didn’t hold up nominees for judges to allow Democrat Senator candidates to campaign.

What did Schumer do wrong his first two years when he was Senate Minority leader up against a well-entrenched McConnell in a Republican Congress?

I think the guy has gotten a bum rap, Now that he has some ability to block having a Pelosi-led Democratic House he can afford to get tougher. And he is.

I think a lot of Chuck Schumer’s “bum rap” comes from the fact that he succeeded the famously combative Harry Reid as Senate Dem Leader. Reid could always be counted to on to fire off a few zingers to the media regarding GOP bullshit, and make damn sure everybody knew where he and the Senate Democrats stood on prettty much everything. Schumer has always been more of a Senate “inside guy”, preferring - well, at least until he pushed for the Leader position - to work outside the spotlight. But yeah, given McConnell’s LBJ-level* control of his caucus, ol’ Chuck has done a pretty creditable job.

*not a compliment

651
ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:18:41am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

I would vote no, but then context of it all matters.

Ordinarily you are not going to get anywhere discussing with them because they will see it as confrontational and then go off. They come pre-pissed off, and it takes little to get them babbling Trump illogical bullshit.

But, if something crazy is occurring and there is a MAGA hatter involved, then some form of confrontation might be necessary.

652
freetoken  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:19:47am

re: #650 Jay C

I think Schumer’s big weakness is that he had not played the media, especially social media, game very well.

Schumer is all too institutional and not really much into public strategy.

Yes, he was in a weak position before the Dems took over the House. Yet I feel that there should have been a way to throw more of a spotlight on Senate shenanigans in supporting Trump.

Now with “Nancy” holding the Republicans responsible, hopefully Schumer will be more able to get the Senate Dems in a place where the Republicans will feel they have to negotiate.

653
Jay C  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:20:10am

re: #640 ObserverArt

I think Garrison’s cartoons are funny in their own way. They are so over the top and wingnutty they become their own documentation of how absurd he and wingnuts can be.

Fun from fevered minds.

At least this one didn’t feature Garrison’s trademark idealization of “President” Trump: you know, the ones with the Greek-god profile, Mr. Universe body, and jut-jawed stance of assertiveness…
Maybe next time.

654
HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:21:56am

re: #653 Jay C

At least this one didn’t feature Garrison’s trademark idealization of “President” Trump: you know, the ones with the Greek-god profile, Mr. Universe body, and jut-jawed stance of assertiveness…
Maybe next time.

Garrison’s Trump cartoons are uh interesting. Definitely MAGArealism.

655
Eventual Carrion  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:26:34am

re: #562 Eclectic Cyborg

There they go again…

“The Trump administration announced Wednesday it will allow a ministry in South Carolina that only works with heterosexual Christian families to participate in a federally funded foster care program.

That means Miracle Hill Ministries can receive federal funding to participate in the program while not working with non-Christians, or those who identify as LGBT.

The organization was in violation of a regulation issued by the Obama administration that states organizations receiving funds from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) can’t discriminate on the basis of religion or sexual orientation.

But Trump’s HHS issued an exemption for the ministry to participate in the program, writing that to force it out would be a violation of its religious freedom.

And he also added, “And fuck those other people’s freedoms.” Maybe he can go all out and withhold funds from organization’s that DON’T require all people helped to be christian.

656
Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:26:39am

re: #640 ObserverArt

I think Garrison’s cartoons are funny in their own way. They are so over the top and wingnutty they become their own documentation of how absurd he and wingnuts can be.

Fun from fevered minds.

For me, it’s the QAnon bullshit - it’s a maelstrom of wingnut apocalyptic masturbatory fantasies, re-heated Satanic Panic paranoid nostalgia-tripping from the 80’s, and all manner of wackadoodle conspiracism.

I usually find myself in horrified bemusement when I read that crap. It’s funny - but to be honest, there’s a tinge of sadness to it as well; some of the more hardcore Qultists (the ones that haven’t bailed after all the failed predictions) have completely alienated their friends and families and every now and then, one of them will post something about their failed efforts to “redpill” their loved ones, and yeah, that is sad……they simply cannot, or will not, see that this patently ludicrous conspiracy theory has taken over their lives to the point where they’re no longer able to interact with the people closest to them.

657
Hecuba's daughter  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:28:05am

re: #648 Hecuba’s daughter

Sounds like an Internet joke — not something Sandmann ever actually said.

I probably should have said snark, rather than joke. That the problem with Twitter: a snark without snark marks is often taken literally, but then that was a problem that columnists had before the Internet. Sarcasm was often misinterpreted as the truth.

658
Eventual Carrion  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:32:12am

re: #582 Eclectic Cyborg

Question for you guys: Is just seeing someone in public with a MAGA hat reason enough to confront them?

I don’t think confrontation is the way to go. Definitely keep and eye on them while in range tho’.

659
ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2019 • 11:40:06am

re: #643 HappyWarrior

They’re absurd but they’re also often racist. They’re almost like a cartoon version of what a wingnut political cartoonist would be.

Which in a way makes them a lampoon.

When I first saw some of his stuff I thought maybe he was spinning the wingnuts up and cashing in. He gives them everything they want in one cartoon and it just seems like he is mocking them.

I know he is a ‘nut, but it seems to be a lucrative business pleasing wingnuts and tickling their rage. So he makes me wonder too.

660
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 24, 2019 • 2:08:34pm

re: #653 Jay C

At least this one didn’t feature Garrison’s trademark idealization of “President” Trump: you know, the ones with the Greek-god profile, Mr. Universe body, and jut-jawed stance of assertiveness…
Maybe next time.

Don’t forget the bulge in the Speedo!


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Internal NRA Memos Reveal Hidden Payments to Enrich Top Executives Marc Owens, who served for 10 years as the head of the Internal Revenue Service division that oversees tax-exempt enterprises, recently reviewed these records. “The litany of red flags is just extraordinary,” he said. “The materials reflect one of ...
Unshaken Defiance
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Anderson .Paak - Make It Better (Ft. Smokey Robinson) (Official Video)MAKE IT BETTER out now!smarturl.itDirected by Andy Hines © 2019 Aftermath Entertainment, Exclusively Distributed by 12ToneMusic, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Shop official Anderson .Paak merchandise here:buy.andersonpaak.com Follow Anderson here:Instagram: instagram.comTwitter: @AndersonPaakFacebook: facebook.com ---Powered by vydia.com
Thanos
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Lilly Hiatt - ‘You Must Go’ [Audio Only] From John Hiatt & Lilly Hiatt's "You Must Go" / "All Kinds Of People," available April 13, 2019 exclusively on 7in vinyl for Record Store Day 2019. Performed by Lilly Hiatt Written by John HiattOriginal recording released on 'Walk ...
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Norah Jones - Begin Again (Audio)Music video by Norah Jones performing Begin Again (Audio). © 2019 Capitol Records, LLC vevo.ly
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Trump Attacks Ilhan Omar Yet Again: Bad for Our Country “Look, she’s been very disrespectful to this country,” Trump told KSTP reporter Tom Hauser after an economic roundtable event in the Twin Cities suburb of Burnsville yesterday. “She’s been very disrespectful, frankly, to Israel. She is somebody that doesn’t ...
Unshaken Defiance
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How Accurate Are Scientific Predictions About Climate? SOURCES ARE BELOW First, some CORRECTIONS: 1) Jerry Taylor did leave the Cato Institute, and set up his own think-tank called the Niskanen Center. It also reflects Libertarian views. 2) Some reputable researchers have found that if the reduction ...
Thanos
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Jackson Browne Reunited With the Section ‘Rock Me on the Water’ The Section featuring Craig Doerge, Danny Kortchmar, Leland Sklar and Russ Kunkel reunite with Jackson Browne at the 2018 NAMM TEC Awards held at the NAMM Show in Anaheim, CA., to perform "Rock Me On the Water". Also featuring ...
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