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gwangung  Jan 29, 2019 • 9:24:42pm
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BlueGrl21  Jan 29, 2019 • 9:29:30pm

re: #1 gwangung

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Not one person in the world needs one billion dollars. Not one. Money hoarders is correct.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 29, 2019 • 9:43:48pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 29, 2019 • 9:48:13pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 29, 2019 • 9:54:56pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 29, 2019 • 9:54:56pm
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William Lewis  Jan 29, 2019 • 9:59:40pm

Howard Schultz needs to simply shut the fuck up and go back to making horrible coffee using burned beans.

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teleskiguy  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:00:11pm

My mother was born and raised in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. What’s the weather like there tonight?

Oy…

I saw outside temperatures like that more than a few times living and going to school in a little town in Colorado called Gunnison. That kind of cold is nothing to be trifled with. And when the wind blows, it’s way way worse.

Stay safe Lizerati in the Polar Vortex! Stay safe.

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KGxvi  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:02:56pm

re: #2 BlueGrl21

Not one person in the world needs one billion dollars. Not one. Money hoarders is correct.

Adjusted for inflation, we’ve always had billionaires. So it doesn’t really bother me. It’s just a shame that modern billionaires feel it more important to run vanity presidential campaigns rather than building universities or hospitals.

Also, sidenote: I just learned that Timothy Olyphant is a member of the Vanderbilt family.

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teleskiguy  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:03:34pm

It’s 7° F where I’m at. No wind, though.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:06:54pm

It’s -32 where I was born, it’s +50 where I live.

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teleskiguy  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:09:11pm
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Renaissance_Man  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:14:06pm

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teleskiguy  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:15:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:26:55pm

LOLWUT?

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:28:12pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:36:11pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

LOLWUT?

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Was that word salad supposed to mean something?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:40:04pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

It’s -11 now, heading down to -21 by 8AM CST. My plans include staying inside all Wednesday.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:43:29pm

re: #13 Renaissance_Man

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:44:59pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

Was that word salad supposed to mean something?

Russian Bot?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:46:56pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

Was that word salad supposed to mean something?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:52:10pm

re: #7 William Lewis

Howard Schultz needs to simply shut the fuck up and go back to making horrible coffee using burned beans.

Also known as espresso. I’m sorry, but espresso is crap. Coffee beans burned to charcoal, ground really fine to guarantee over-extraction, and exposed to temperatures over ~195º F. Any one of these things would produce horrible coffee, all of them together are an abomination.

And mixing this witches’ brew with copious quantities of milk doesn’t help. I never order anything at Starbuck’s except their Coffee of the Day—which is real, properly roasted, brewed coffee—and introduced me to all the different varieties with their distinctive flavors. From what people say, it sounds like Starbuck’s foists inferior coffee on the public elsewhere, but here on their home turf I guess they figure they can’t get away with it. I’d hate to have to boycott them….

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Targetpractice  Jan 29, 2019 • 10:55:44pm

As a gamer, I have a love/hate relationship with games where you spend most of the story building up a team that can steamroll its way through maps, only to reach the endgame where the difficulty curve develops an overhang.

Me: “I am mighty! King Kong ain’t got shit on me!”

Game: “Oh really, boyo? Then it’s time to take you back to school. *TPK*”

Me: “Ffffffffff….”

*sigh* Back to the grind I go.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:05:12pm

I am going to be very disappointed in the NSA if they don’t have complete transcripts of the private conversations between Trump and Putin.

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Scout  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:07:47pm

Forgive me if this link has already posted here, but I thought this take by a Rolling Stone writer was really interesting:

Stephen Miller May Have Cost Trump the Wall

Basically, it says the goober in the Oval Office didn’t take an offer from the Democrats a while back because he and Stephen Miller were too racist to realize it was a good deal for them.

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Scout  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:11:59pm

re: #25 Scout

Although … now that I think about it, this piece presupposes they actually want a wall, and not a wedge issue to fire up the base.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:18:52pm

re: #26 Scout

Although … now that I think about it, this piece presupposes they actually want a wall, and not a wedge issue to fire up the base.

Bingo. The wall is useless as an actual physical object. That’s why they won’t trade permanent residence and a path to citizenship for Dreamers for wall funding.

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sagehen  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:22:06pm

re: #9 KGxvi

Adjusted for inflation, we’ve always had billionaires. So it doesn’t really bother me. It’s just a shame that modern billionaires feel it more important to run vanity presidential campaigns rather than building universities or hospitals.

Also, sidenote: I just learned that Timothy Olyphant is a member of the Vanderbilt family.

But you already knew that about Anderson Cooper, right? Not new information?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:22:20pm

re: #26 Scout

Although … now that I think about it, this piece presupposes they actually want a wall, and not a wedge issue to fire up the base.

re: #27 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Bingo. The wall is useless as an actual physical object. That’s why they won’t trade permanent residence and a path to citizenship for Dreamers for wall funding.

If they really wanted a wall, they could have worked on it when the GOP had complete control of both Houses.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:23:51pm

Of course the Right Wing are going Truther on Jussie Smollett.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:25:41pm
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sagehen  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:26:49pm

re: #22 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I never order anything at Starbuck’s except their Coffee of the Day—which is real, properly roasted, brewed coffee—and introduced me to all the different varieties with their distinctive flavors. From what people say, it sounds like Starbuck’s foists inferior coffee on the public elsewhere, but here on their home turf I guess they figure they can’t get away with it. I’d hate to have to boycott them….

I don’t drink coffee; but I do appreciate their free wifi, and sometimes the pastries are pretty good.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:28:04pm

re: #32 sagehen

I don’t drink coffee; but I do appreciate their free wifi, and sometimes the pastries are pretty good.

He’s not CEO of Starbucks anymore, so I’m not sure of what a boycott is supposed to accomplish.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:40:14pm

re: #33 NO SMOCKING GUN!

He’s not CEO of Starbucks anymore, so I’m not sure of what a boycott is supposed to accomplish.

His net worth is still massively tied to Starbucks’ stock valuation.

Howard Schultz is the founder, former chief executive officer (CEO), and single-largest shareholder of Starbucks. Schultz holds 33 million shares directly and 1.7 million shares indirectly through trusts as of Jun. 26, 2018.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:44:11pm

OK, we all knew Facebook was a criminal enterprise, right? This is really something though:

Like they say, read the whole thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:53:58pm

re: #29 Hecuba’s daughter

If they really wanted a wall, they could have worked on it when the GOP had complete control of both Houses.

Repeat for this thread: If Trump had been at all serious about his Wall, he would have named a planning commission to present a land survey, an engineering and design report, a timetable and a budget.

Along with an environmental impact statement and assessment of legal/property issues faced in building a wall.

None of that happened, which is in itself proof that the Wall is just a Symbol of our National Resolve.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:54:35pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

His net worth is still massively tied to Starbucks’ stock valuation.

And while I have no first hand knowledge about exactly how he’s set up his holdings my educated guess, based on his statement that he decided to explore running for President because of AOC’s 70% top marginal rate policy proposal, is that the vast majority of that stock is being held in some kind of traditional pre-tax IRA. In other words, he never went Roth. Meaning under such a proposal he’s likely to be hit hard if he liquidates his holdings because almost all of it will be classified as income instead of capital gains.

Basically, this motherfucker is scared, and he’s trying to get Trump re-elected out of nothing but pure greed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2019 • 11:57:18pm

I have never visited a Starbuck’s in my life. There are over 150 of them in Germany, I guess, but I find that most cafes can give you a decent cup at a reasonable price.

I did visit a Costa’s Coffee, a UK knockoff of the chain.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:07:51am
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:14:43am
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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:33:07am

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

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Had to search my memory for a bit to remember the last female candidate for the WH (Pres or VP) that the media viewed as “likable.”

Then it hit me: Princess Dumbass of the North Woods. Why? Because it was obvious from Day One that the McCain campaign had picked her because she was an attractive woman whose room-temp IQ was non-threatening to male wingnuts.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jan 30, 2019 • 1:00:33am

re: #30 DodgerFan1988

Of course the Right Wing are going Truther on Jussie Smollett.

Mark Dice, huh?
So it’s totally plausible that superbowl halftime shows are Satanic Illuminati rituals, but a couple goons stalking and attacking a gay black tv actor is unbelievable?

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Alephnaught  Jan 30, 2019 • 1:28:07am

Ouch!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 30, 2019 • 1:28:54am

It’s snowing here. We switched from light rain to snow while I was busy reading a book.

View from my window

Weather report says the low tonight will be -1°C, so this stuff may actually stick.

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Scout  Jan 30, 2019 • 1:30:54am

re: #43 Alephnaught

Context?

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Scout  Jan 30, 2019 • 1:33:26am

re: #45 Scout

Context?

Never mind. I think I figured it out. (Forgot about the phone-tapping business.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 2:16:47am

Nothing like a bit of crenellation on a snowy morning, the Heimburg in Niederheimbach on the Rhine this morning:

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Alephnaught  Jan 30, 2019 • 2:23:15am

re: #45 Scout

Context?

Piers Morgan got into a spat with Ross Greer, an MSP from the Green party who was less than complimentary about William Churchill’s record.

@DaftLimmy then trolled Piers about it. (NSFW tweet in private comment.)

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… and for good measure, trolled Piers about his “journalist” credentials.

And Piers took the bait…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 30, 2019 • 2:27:52am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Your view beats mine, hands down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 2:46:54am

re: #49 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Your view beats mine, hands down.

that’s why I live here. That is taken from a ways uphill.

This is the view out my window:

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steve_davis  Jan 30, 2019 • 3:48:04am

re: #7 William Lewis

Howard Schultz needs to simply shut the fuck up and go back to making horrible coffee using burned beans.

i don’t know if it makes it worse or better, but when i used to drink coffee, starbucks whole bean was actually quite good out of the bag. I just assumed that it sucks at Starbucks because they don’t know how to make it, or because people put so much crap in their coffee that they can’t taste how bad the barista version is black.

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steve_davis  Jan 30, 2019 • 3:50:18am

re: #8 teleskiguy

My mother was born and raised in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. What’s the weather like there tonight?

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Oy…

I saw outside temperatures like that more than a few times living and going to school in a little town in Colorado called Gunnison. That kind of cold is nothing to be trifled with. And when the wind blows, it’s way way worse.

Stay safe Lizerati in the Polar Vortex! Stay safe.

this is when everyone should read “to build a fire.” London also encountered that cold more than a few times while prospecting in Alaska. guy’s feet get wet: he realizes no amount of running will warm them: tries to build a fire but has snow from an overhanging branch smother it: wants to kill the dog in order to warm his hands, but dog looks over at him from safe distance and says, “what do you mean ‘we’ are in trouble, white man?’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 3:55:03am

re: #52 steve_davis

this is when everyone should read “to build a fire.” London also encountered that cold more than a few times while prospecting in Alaska.

That story always impressed me as a kid…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2019 • 4:09:08am

So, blow you old Blue Norther…

~ IAN AND SYLVIA TYSON ~ Someday Soon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 4:09:58am

re: #54 Decatur Deb

So, blow you old Blue Norther…

Mickey and Michelle!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2019 • 4:13:09am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mickey and Michelle!

Might be an artifact of 1960 stereo engineering, but I love the way they keep their voices separated on some of their cuts.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2019 • 4:18:08am

Most notably:

The French Girl

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 4:30:40am

re: #51 steve_davis

i don’t know if it makes it worse or better, but when i used to drink coffee, starbucks whole bean was actually quite good out of the bag. I just assumed that it sucks at Starbucks because they don’t know how to make it, or because people put so much crap in their coffee that they can’t taste how bad the barista version is black.

My ex GF used to bring back a bag of Dunkin’ Donuts ground coffee when she visited the ‘States, I found that was decent stuff as well.

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Sea Mexican  Jan 30, 2019 • 4:42:10am

re: #22 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Also known as espresso. I’m sorry, but espresso is crap. Coffee beans burned to charcoal, ground really fine to guarantee over-extraction, and exposed to temperatures over ~195º F. Any one of these things would produce horrible coffee, all of them together are an abomination.

And mixing this witches’ brew with copious quantities of milk doesn’t help. I never order anything at Starbuck’s except their Coffee of the Day—which is real, properly roasted, brewed coffee—and introduced me to all the different varieties with their distinctive flavors. From what people say, it sounds like Starbuck’s foists inferior coffee on the public elsewhere, but here on their home turf I guess they figure they can’t get away with it. I’d hate to have to boycott them….

I’ve had mix results with them. I couldn’t find a Starbucks in NYC that could brew anything passable. Dallas, OTOH, had a nice one where I had coffee (and breakfast) almost every day.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:01:16am

re: #8 teleskiguy

I saw outside temperatures like that more than a few times living and going to school in a little town in Colorado called Gunnison. T

My father and I hiked down to the Gunnison river in the Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park when I was 15. That was one hell of a steep climb back up. The ranger told us “really, that is not a day hike.” Wrong thing to say. Challenge set…

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:07:38am

I know people here don’t like the science in The Day After Tomorrow, but, after seeing the images from the north this morning, it’s at least a way to talk to people about how global warming can cause erratic weather.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:08:22am

good morning fellow lizards. Today I finally get the cast off my thumb after thumb surgery and I get to test out my new toy. Got a new pellet smoker for those times when i can’t always tend a fire like i have to on my big one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:12:27am

moron is giving international travel advice

O_o

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darthstar  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:13:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:13:44am

also delusional, no surprise

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:14:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:14:56am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

also delusional, no surprise

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He’s rage tweeting at 6:40 AM.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:15:37am
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darthstar  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:16:43am

The thing these billionaires don’t understand is that being the President of the United States isn’t just some hobby they can take up like kite surfing and see if they can be any good at it.

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darthstar  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:17:50am

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

I responded to the caravan tweet a little bit ago…

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:18:16am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

He’s rage tweeting at 6:40 AM.

He must be nervous about something.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:18:20am

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m going to be so happy to have a President who doesn’t listen to Fox and Friends for policy ideas.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:18:50am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

He must be nervous about something.

Please be a Jr indictment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:21:13am
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darthstar  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:22:49am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Please be a Jr indictment.

This. Indict Don Jr. on perjury now and start exercising search warrants on his org. Let Trump rage.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:24:14am

re: #75 darthstar

This. Indict Don Jr. on perjury now and start exercising search warrants on his org. Let Trump rage.

Rage?

Trump would go apeshit. Seriously, he’d probably start lobbing nukes at Caracas or something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:28:47am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:30:38am

and Schultz just called for comprehensive tax reform aka more tax cuts…bye felicia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:32:23am

re: #78 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and Schultz just called for comprehensive tax reform aka more tax cuts…bye felicia.

Well clearly, he hasn’t hoarded enough money yet.

Maybe Schultz is going for a whole Scrooge McDuck swimming in money sort of thing.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:33:52am

re: #17 Targetpractice

Was that word salad supposed to mean something?

bullshit trying to masquerade as brilliant insider who’s smarter than everyone else

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:34:19am

re: #78 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and Schultz just called for comprehensive tax reform aka more tax cuts…bye felicia.

We don’t need more tax cuts that benefit only you and your friends.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:34:21am

I suppose it should be no surprise, but the usual suspects are starting to get very ‘concerned’ about some of the 2020 Dem candidates. Particularly Kamala Harris:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:35:35am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

An anti-vaxxer asked how to protect her 3-year-old from measles and got totally owned

There could be valid medical reasons that this kid is not vaccinated. Would not rush to judgement based on that post alone. But now “herd immunity” is all but gone and we are all lone buffaloes waiting to get picked off.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:36:37am

Schultz: Reagan was the best republican president…

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:37:10am

re: #27 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Bingo. The wall is useless as an actual physical object. That’s why they won’t trade permanent residence and a path to citizenship for Dreamers for wall funding.

as a physical object we’re looking at a 10-20+ year timeline
where even the $25B is a ‘down payment’
changing administrations, priorities, etc
of course it’s never gonna happen under any circumstances

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:37:30am

re: #84 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Schultz: Reagan was the best republican president…

Not even the best one of the 80’s.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:37:36am

re: #78 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and Schultz just called for comprehensive tax reform aka more tax cuts…bye felicia.

Has screaming fits about talk of raising taxes on the rich, then comes out the next day to suggest “comprehensive tax reform.”

I can’t imagine what he thinks is wrong with our tax structure. ////////

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Dave In Austin  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:39:54am

Can anyone tell me if Bernie was offering “Free Jobs” along with the free collage and healthcare?

This Schultz guy is incredibly tone deaf….

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:41:49am

Fuck Schultz.

EDIT: Greg Sargent helps put it into words better than I could:

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Amory Blaine  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:41:56am

Quelle surprise

Foxconn may not build $10B Wisconsin plant Trump touted

.

..”In Wisconsin we’re not building a factory. You can’t use a factory to view our Wisconsin investment,” Woo said.

Earlier this month, Foxconn, a major supplier to Apple, reiterated its intention to create 13,000 jobs in Wisconsin, but said it had slowed its pace of hiring. The company initially said it expected to employ about 5,200 people by the end of 2020; a company source said that figure now looks likely to be closer to 1,000 workers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:42:02am

re: #88 Dave In Austin

Can anyone tell me if Bernie was offering “Free Jobs” along with the free collage and healthcare?

This Schultz guy is incredibly tone deaf….

Democrats are going to turn us into a socialist hellhole with hyperinflation unless we lower taxes and cut government spending to the bone.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:42:23am

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

And while I have no first hand knowledge about exactly how he’s set up his holdings my educated guess, based on his statement that he decided to explore running for President because of AOC’s 70% top marginal rate policy proposal, is that the vast majority of that stock is being held in some kind of traditional pre-tax IRA. In other words, he never went Roth. Meaning under such a proposal he’s likely to be hit hard if he liquidates his holdings because almost all of it will be classified as income instead of capital gains.

Basically, this motherfucker is scared, and he’s trying to get Trump re-elected out of nothing but pure greed.

selling stock inside a traditional ira - no tax - cap gains or otherwise

it’s when you withdraw from the account

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:42:47am

he did just say that he is for going after big pharma. then turns and now is waffling on unions and saying they aren’t the answer, comprehensive tax reform is now he is saying he hated trump’s tax cuts.

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lizardofid  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:43:27am

re: #84 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Schultz: Reagan was the best republican president…

I’m sure he thinks so. This simple graph of wealth distribution explains why.

Edit for clarity

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:46:03am

and now: Elizabeth warren is a socialist

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:47:36am

He’s going to flop.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:50:42am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

yup.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:51:54am

re: #97 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

yup.

He seems way out of touch. Who wants to hear a multi millionaire whine about people wanting better health care?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:53:30am

re: #41 Targetpractice

Had to search my memory for a bit to remember the last female candidate for the WH (Pres or VP) that the media viewed as “likable.”

Then it hit me: Princess Dumbass of the North Woods. Why? Because it was obvious from Day One that the McCain campaign had picked her because she was an attractive woman whose room-temp IQ was non-threatening to male wingnuts.

Cause she was an R

Seriously though she had no national history
she wasn’t around long enough for people to be pissed at her
How do you hate someone you never heard of

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:54:36am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

He seems way out of touch. Who wants to hear a multi millionaire whine about people wanting better health care?

The Sunday Show Circuit, clearly…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:55:15am

re: #100 Citizen K

The Sunday Show Circuit, clearly…

True.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:56:16am

re: #99 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Cause she was an R

Seriously though she had no national history
she wasn’t around long enough for people to be pissed at her
How do you hate someone you never heard of

I didn’t dislike her at first and even gave McCain some credit for going outside the box but she was and is awful.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:57:04am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

no one. Mitt Romney 2.0

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:57:43am

re: #59 Sea Mexican

I’ve had mix results with them. I couldn’t find a Starbucks in NYC that could brew anything passable. Dallas, OTOH, had a nice one where I had coffee (and breakfast) almost every day.

Starbucks is dead to me. Each morning we grind and French press our coffee. If I had more room, we would roast.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:57:50am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Also, don’t underestimate the gullibility of folks who equate money with righteousness/intelligence. Trump managed to con folks into believing he was all for the ‘real’ working class, after all.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:58:18am

re: #30 DodgerFan1988

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 5:59:26am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I didn’t dislike her at first and even gave McCain some credit for going outside the box but she was and is awful.

It was clear that she was part of a package deal that McCain had to take to ensure the support of the Fundamentalist social-conservative wing of the GOP, which was not happy with McCain’s centrist social policies.

And granted, she was Governor of the largest state in the union, but governor of a state with a population around that of Louisville, KY. Two-thirds of which is Federal or tribal land…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:00:03am

re: #105 Citizen K

Also, don’t underestimate the gullibility of folks who equate money with righteousness/intelligence. Trump managed to con folks into believing he was all for the ‘real’ working class, after all.

Calvinism is still strong with us. The Rich must be somehow morally superior to the rest of us.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:00:56am

re: #69 darthstar

The thing these billionaires don’t understand is that being the President of the United States isn’t just some hobby they can take up like kite surfing and see if they can be any good at it.

By the time anyone gets any good at it, it’s over

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:00:59am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

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Homosexuals having the same rights as you isn’t forcing anything. Don’t like shows with gays in them. Don’t watch them. Don’t like gay marriage. Don’t attend one. But somehow we’re the snowflakes who need safe spaces.

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fern01  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:02:28am

re: #99 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Cause she was an R

Seriously though she had no national history
she wasn’t around long enough for people to be pissed at her
How do you hate someone you never heard of

GOPers find it easy - just look at the sex and/or skin color

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:02:31am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was clear that she was part of a package deal that McCain had to take to ensure the support of the Fundamentalist social-conservative wing of the GOP, which was not happy with McCain’s centrist social policies.

And granted, she was Governor of the largest state in the union, but governor of a state with a population around that of Louisville, KY. Two-thirds of which is Federal or tribal land…

I didn’t know how conservative she was but her lack of intelligence and intellectual curiosity was apparent immediately. I also think it was a cynical ploy to Clinton voters but they weren’t fooled.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:06:15am

re: #111 fern01

GOPers find it easy - just look at the sex and/or skin color

I still remember Limbaugh calling her Governor Babe and all the conservative males I knew calling her a GILF. A double play on her being a governor and grandmother.

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retired cynic  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:07:06am

Holy ^&*. The wind chill here is -37! High today to be -1. Why aren’t I somewhere warm???

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:07:09am

re: #82 Citizen K

I suppose it should be no surprise, but the usual suspects are starting to get very ‘concerned’ about some of the 2020 Dem candidates. Particularly Kamala Harris:

So, what you’re saying Maggie, is that the right will find something to like in her?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:08:10am

re: #104 Unshaken Defiance

Starbucks is dead to me. Each morning we grind and French press our coffee. If I had more room, we would roast.

Yup every morning

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jeffreyw  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:09:47am

Good morning!

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Amory Blaine  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:10:17am

re: #114 retired cynic

It’s -23° F here now. I volunteered to come into work today and hold down the fort. Everyone else is at home.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:10:26am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Homosexuals having the same rights as you isn’t forcing anything. Don’t like shows with gays in them. Don’t watch them. Don’t like gay marriage. Don’t attend one. But somehow we’re the snowflakes who need safe spaces.

I may have to sell them a cake!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:12:53am

re: #119 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

I may have to sell them a cake!

What pisses me off about these people who use their religion to refuse to deal in “sin” I’d how selective they are. It’s such bs.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:14:19am
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Old Liberal  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:16:06am

re: #88 Dave In Austin

Can anyone tell me if Bernie was offering “Free Jobs” along with the free collage and healthcare?

This Schultz guy is incredibly tone deaf….

The only time I witnessed “free jobs” is when nepotism was involved

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:17:42am

re: #121 Belafon

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Way to go Donnie!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:19:19am

re: #118 Amory Blaine

It’s -23° F here now. I volunteered to come into work today and hold down the fort. Everyone else is at home.

My daughter’s company told people to stay home. She said it was the first time since she started working there 10 years ago that the place had closed. Weather forecast calls for a high of -15° F.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:24:24am

I’m embarrassed it’s 35’ in Central Texas. Stay safe you guys.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:26:24am

re: #125 Dave In Austin

I’m embarrassed it’s 35’ in Central Texas. Stay safe you guys.

16 here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:28:53am

re: #121 Belafon

do you know how historically impossible it is to make ANY speaker of the house popular?

Nancy had a good feel for the mood of the nation. She came out of the 2018 mid-term elections swinging and caught the GOP off guard. The image of all those women Reps in the Democratic caucus really struck a nerve with a lot of frustrated voters.

She also knows that people who have been grudgingly supportive of Trump are starting to waver.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:30:47am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nancy had a good feel for the mood of the nation. She came out of the 2018 mid-term elections swinging and caught the GOP off guard. The image of all those women Reps in the Democratic caucus really struck a nerve with a lot of frustrated voters.

She also knows that people who have been grudgingly supportive of Trump are starting to waver.

Yep, but even GWB would have known how to handle this better.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:31:17am

So, current Brexit status be like:

PM May basically lied to her Parliamentary allies yesterday regarding a couple of negotiators - the hardline Brexiteers insisted upon them, May said, “Sure, no problemo” and today she’s all like, “Nah, ain’t gonna do it” and the Brexiteers are livid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:33:04am

re: #128 Belafon

Yep, but even GWB would have known how to handle this better.

GWB was a different breed. He had a lot of people who truly supported him. DT has a small hard-core following and a lot of people who support him for various reasons; dislike of Democrats, because they see him as means to an end or because they are (or at least were) convinced that he could not be much worse than the alternative or that he was worth a chance.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:37:45am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

So, current Brexit status be like:

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PM May basically lied to her Parliamentary allies yesterday regarding a couple of negotiators - the hardline Brexiteers insisted upon them, May said, “Sure, no problemo” and today she’s all like, “Nah, ain’t gonna do it” and the Brexiteers are livid.

May read Trump’s playbook?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:38:47am

It’s a balmy -25F here in the northern Chicago burbs. -55F windchill. I think I’ll go to the beach today.

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Sea Mexican  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:38:50am

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She made an alliance with Scotland?

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Dave In Austin  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:41:13am

F: “So what did you see on the internet today Dave?”

Me: “Not much the usual lying Pols. But there was this Unicorn with a case of the worms GIF that was rather intriguing”.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:43:56am

re: #121 Belafon

do you know how historically impossible it is to make ANY speaker of the house popular?

Trump makes the unpossible possible.

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darthstar  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:44:47am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:46:10am

re: #125 Dave In Austin

I’m embarrassed it’s 35’ in Central Texas. Stay safe you guys.

60 here
but no sun for three days so we dont know what to do

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:47:15am

A heartwarming story from the land of 911 dispatchers.

Lafayette is the town right next to the home of Purdue University.

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ObserverArt  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:48:32am

Morning!

It’s cold. What’s new?

-1° with a wind chill of -25°. The wind gusts are pretty damn strong. Strange thing, the wind is coming from the West/Southwest and that is pretty unusual with a huge cold front like this.

One day and a half of this and it is supposed to warm up to mid 20s by Friday. Schools closed, no mail. First time I remember the post office calling off around here.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:59:00am

Bubbles

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:59:00am

Looks like Germany is slashing its 2019 economic outlook and Italy may well now be in a recession (having entered recession in Q4 of last year).

bloomberg.com

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MsJ  Jan 30, 2019 • 6:59:40am

re: #31 Single-handed sailor

That was hysterical. I almost spit coffee out of my nose, myself. LOL!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:00:13am

re: #41 Targetpractice

Had to search my memory for a bit to remember the last female candidate for the WH (Pres or VP) that the media viewed as “likable.”

Then it hit me: Princess Dumbass of the North Woods. Why? Because it was obvious from Day One that the McCain campaign had picked her because she was an attractive woman whose room-temp IQ was non-threatening to male wingnuts.

True, but there gradually arose the “famous for the sake of being famous” angle with Palin, especially when she quit her only duly elected job in order to become Teh Prototypical Grifter.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:04:42am

The doomsayers have been pointing to declining home sales as a premonition of a recession. Just sayin’.

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ObserverArt  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:07:19am

re: #13 Renaissance_Man

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:12:50am

re: #144 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The doomsayers have been pointing to declining home sales as a premonition of a recession. Just sayin’.

Just think of what a wall will do to keep housing sales up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:14:38am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:14:43am

re: #144 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Combined with slowing Chinese output, Germany cutting its forecasts for this year (and Italy probably already in a recession), the Brexit debacle, and other factors……looks like this might end up being a rough year pretty much everywhere.

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:17:18am

re: #35 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, we all knew Facebook was a criminal enterprise, right? This is really something though:

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Like they say, read the whole thing.

One acronym: RICO

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:17:32am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Combined with slowing Chinese output, Germany cutting its forecasts for this year (and Italy probably already in a recession), the Brexit debacle, and other factors……looks like this might end up being a rough year pretty much everywhere.

Yup.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:22:55am

re: #143 Myron Falwell

True, but there gradually arose the “famous for the sake of being famous” angle with Palin, especially when she quit her only duly elected job in order to become Teh Prototypical Grifter.

she didnt enter the arena with a ‘predestined’ target on her back
she earned it all by herself (and quickly she did)

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:24:46am

re: #150 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

And Czech Republic will get it too - Germany sneezes, we catch a cold.

That being said, bad times for others are often good times for yours truly; people start concentrating more on learning their English so they can either find work elsewhere or move up the employment ladder….if they have an English certificate they’re more likely to get promoted or, in other cases, land a better job than what they’ve got now.

And on that note, I’m off to teach a new student. BBL.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:27:21am

Good morning, fellow Polar vortexers! It is currently 36 degrees and overcast here on the Gulf Coast. For reference, temps rarely drop below 30 here though we haven’t gotten an actual blast of winter weather this year (we’ve only had snow six times since 1993).

That said, I am of course Canadian and I have felt a -55 wind chill before, so I sympathize with what you are dealing with.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:28:40am

re: #144 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

A recession is a big enough problem when you have rates taxes that you can cut and projects to fund. AND you have people who have passed high school intro to economics.

We do have a cushion of rates that can be cut. We won’t pass any budget that includes public works because of McConnell and his Fuck Civilization caucus. Taxes actually need to be raised because they’ve cut them to oblivion.

And have you seen these dipshits?

How boned are we? We are double-plus superfucked.

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:28:42am

re: #90 Amory Blaine

Quelle surprise

Foxconn may not build $10B Wisconsin plant Trump touted

.

But they’ll still get the tax breaks that scumbag Walker gave away!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:30:02am

re: #154 Sufficient unto the day…

A recession is a big enough problem when you have rates taxes that you can cut and projects to fund. AND you have people who have passed high school intro to economics.

We do have a cushion of rates that can be cut. We won’t pass any budget that includes public works because of McConnell and his Fuck Civilization caucus. Taxes actually need to be raised because they’ve cut them to oblivion.

And have you seen these dipshits?

How boned are we? We are double-plus superfucked.

It’s the little people who get hurt by recession. The fat cats are largely insulated from them.

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plansbandc  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:30:23am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:31:10am

JFC

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Kilroy was here  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:32:53am

OT:
A CURE FOR CANCER? ISRAELI SCIENTISTS SAY THEY THINK THEY FOUND ONE
“We believe we will offer in a year’s time a complete cure for cancer.”
jpost.com

“Our cancer cure will be effective from day one, will last a duration of a few weeks and will have no or minimal side-effects at a much lower cost than most other treatments on the market,” Aridor said. “Our solution will be both generic and personal.”

Sciences Rules

(Lets hope it works)

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Myron Falwell  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:33:21am

re: #151 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

she didnt enter the arena with a ‘predestined’ target on her back
she earned it all by herself (and quickly she did)

As someone once said, “nothing is gained, everything is earned.” Starting with the Couric interview disaster, she totally earned that level of infamy.

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Jay C  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:33:23am

re: #155 William Lewis

But they’ll still get the tax breaks that scumbag Walker gave away!

Also: didn’t Walker offer Foxconn a ton of (taxpayer) money up front to build their “huge” plant in WI?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:33:39am

Must be a day ending in Y when the President hops on Twitter and shits all over his Intelligence experts.

I bet they are thrilled about that.

//

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plansbandc  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:33:57am

The Forest (part 7 of a larger poem called Rain)

At night
under the trees
the black snake
jellies forward
rubbing
roughly
the stems of the bloodroot,
the yellow leaves,
little boulders of bark,
to take off
the old life.
I don’t know
if he knows
what is happening.
I don’t know
if he knows
it will work.
In the distance
the moon and the stars
give a little light.
In the distance
the owl cries out.

In the distance
the owl cries out.
The snake knows
these are the owl’s woods,
these are the woods of death,
these are the woods of hardship
where you crawl and crawl,
where you live in the husks of trees,
where you lie on the wild twigs
and they cannot bear your weight,
where life has no purpose
and is neither civil nor intelligent.

Where life has no purpose
and is neither civil nor intelligent,
it begins
to rain,
it begins
to smell like the bodies
of flowers.
At the back of the neck
the old skin splits.
The snake shivers
but does not hesitate.
He inches forward.
He begins to bleed through
like satin.

—-Mary Oliver, from New and Selected Poems, published 1992

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Myron Falwell  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:34:25am

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

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However many Scaramoochies this “campaign” lasts, it will still be far too long.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:36:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:39:48am

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

“I must be doing something right to create so much interest and backlash from the Democratic Party. Some of it is a surprise, but we expected to see some of the level of vitriol but not the extent it’s been.”

He is accomplishing what he has set out to do.

Get people talking about him.

Setting himself up as the only one who can save us from Socialist Venezuelan hyperinflation hell and 120% tax rates.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:44:38am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is accomplishing what he has set out to do.

Get people talking about him.

Setting himself up as the only one who can save us from Socialist Venezuelan hyperinflation hell and 120% tax rates.

Well, at least the first part. But we were also talking about Tulsi when she announced.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:53:42am

re: #167 Belafon

Well, at least the first part. But we were also talking about Tulsi when she announced.

Schultz/Gabbard 2020 - We get people talking!

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:55:11am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

Schultz/Gabbard 2020 - We get people talking about how much we suck!

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 7:59:05am

I wonder what Schultz will do when the Mueller report comes out, or Trump does something else stupid?

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steve_davis  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:08:23am

re: #114 retired cynic

Holy ^&*. The wind chill here is -37! High today to be -1. Why aren’t I somewhere warm???

there are literally places on Mars at the moment where the wind chill is not as bad. In fact, I think the grass is still green around Heliopolis.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:17:11am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:18:03am

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Is that a slave ship?

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:18:41am

Some notes on the “poll” about the shutdown that Trump will see from his handlers from Joan McCarter:

Never mind the tanking approval rating, the dramatic downward shift in the public’s mood on the economy, or the amazing anybody-but-Trump early 2020 polling: Team Trump has their own numbers, and that’s what they’re showing Individual 1.

Trump’s campaign manager, Brad Parscale, commissioned a poll to show Trump how he fared with the shutdown. But rather than, you know, run a national poll, he had the pollsters go to 10 congressional districts that Trump won in 2016 but flipped to Democrats in 2018, in what was basically a fluke of a wave election. They see that these numbers “bolstered Trump” in the shutdown, but under the hood it’s some pretty damned weak sauce. For example, Trump doesn’t jump into majority support in these polls, getting a plurality of 48-49 percent. Also, a plurality blames him for the shutdown!

A plurality does support him on the border wall, but what’s fascinating is that after reading a full four paragraphs of pro-wall arguments, there is hardly any movement among voters. Just 33 percent still stand with Trump on the wall! That is up from 27 percent, but 41 percent still say Trump needs to work with House Speaker Pelosi to find a compromise on border security.

This is the poll that they’re using to convince Trump he needs to hold the line on his wall and keep threatening another shutdown. And knowing Trump, it’ll work.

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darthstar  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:18:56am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:19:00am

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that a slave ship?

Yes it is.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:19:08am

re: #154 Sufficient unto the day…

A recession is a big enough problem when you have rates taxes that you can cut and projects to fund. AND you have people who have passed high school intro to economics.

We do have a cushion of rates that can be cut. We won’t pass any budget that includes public works because of McConnell and his Fuck Civilization caucus. Taxes actually need to be raised because they’ve cut them to oblivion.

And have you seen these dipshits?

How boned are we? We are double-plus superfucked.

+1

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darthstar  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:19:13am

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that a slave ship?

Trump cruises.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:19:45am

re: #155 William Lewis

But they’ll still get the tax breaks that scumbag Walker gave away!

so they gave away the tax breaks and didnt require performance? wow

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:20:46am

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

I must be doing something right to create so much interest and backlash from the Democratic Party. Some of it is a surprise, but we expected to see some of the level of vitriol but not the extent it’s been.”

or people just think you’re an asshole

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:20:58am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

Schultz/Gabbard 2020 - We get people talking about how much we suck!

Remember that the two big RW talking points were

“Democrats in Disarray, is Nancy on the way out?”

and

“Democrats veer hard left!”

since the former talking point is not at all applicable, they are leaning that much harder on the latter, and that is what Schultz is telling us: the Dems want to wreck our economy with punitive taxation to play for free healthcare, schooling and jobs for ungrateful (that is, minority) people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:21:23am

re: #180 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

or people just think you’re an asshole

“There’s no such thing as bad publicity”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:24:28am

re: #174 Belafon

Some notes on the “poll” about the shutdown that Trump will see from his handlers from Joan McCarter:

lost me at “Democrats in 2018, in what was basically a fluke of a wave election”

as if…

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Sir John Barron  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:25:31am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

Must be a day ending in Y when the President hops on Twitter and shits all over his Intelligence experts.

I bet they are thrilled about that.

//

DJT has much moar better intelligence information and Intelligence that he gets from other Intelligence sources like….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:25:42am

re: #183 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

“Democrats in 2018, in what was basically a fluke of a wave election”

Is that their talking point to explain it all away?

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:28:45am

re: #183 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

lost me at “Democrats in 2018, in what was basically a fluke of a wave election”

as if…

If I asked you to bet on who those districts would support in the 2022 midterms if a Democrat wins the presidency in 2020, what would you bet?

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:30:37am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is that their talking point to explain it all away?

Actually, that was McCarter’s commentary.

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Jay C  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:31:10am

re: #179 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

so they gave away the tax breaks and didnt require performance? wow

IIRC, Scott Walker and the WI GOP were so desperate to come up with ANY sort of big-money high-tech deal, they gave the shop away to the Chinese, decided to rely on Foxconn’s (unspecific) “projections” as to expansion, and when questioned about the particulars (especially the upfront money), reacted in the usual Republican style: I.e., dismiss, ignore and vilify any opponents, harp on the “jobs, jobs, jobs” theme, and then go ahead and approve the deal anyway.

I guess 1000 jobs at their plant is better than no jobs, but it’s still a far cry from the “13,000” Walker loved to bray about.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:32:38am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is that their talking point to explain it all away?

must be
because any other explanation means they got pantsed

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:34:35am

re: #186 Belafon

If I asked you to bet on who those districts would support in the 2022 midterms if a Democrat wins the presidency in 2020, what would you bet?

all other things being mundane, it tends not to be the president’s party

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:37:04am

oops

A new Quinnipiac poll finds Americans trust Democrats more than President Trump on border security, 50% to 41%. That is up from a 49% to 44% Democratic advantage two weeks ago.

“Both findings are rare since the issue has almost always favored the GOP.”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:37:59am
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) declined to say during a television interview whether she will endorse President Trump for reelection in 2020, the Washington Post reports.

that means of course she will

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:43:07am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Stay safe out there as the temps drop off a cliff here (and already are dangerous across the Midwest). Of course, Mount Washington is envious of fact that the temps and windchills in ND and MN and WI are what Mount Washington usually gets on a daily basis.

But that’s not what’s troubling me. It’s that Trump is again attacking the intel community and sycophants like Dobbs are egging Trump on.

Trump is a Russian potted plant and everything he’s doing is undermining US national security. There are a few people like Richard Painter claiming that GOPers are worried that the GOP is worried about 2020 and don’t want to see Trump in 2020. I call bulkshit on that - unless and until GOP leaders in Congress step up and step out and call out Trump and his criminal syndicate and demand the RNC drop the no primarying plank, this is just an attempt to misdirect and get distance between Trump and a GOP that approves of Trump policies but not Trump bluntness. They approve of Trump sabotaging functioning government.

How do we know?

Because McConnell made sure that the shutdown proceeded for the longest in US history. He had ability to end it on day 1 - with a clean CR voice vote. He refused, because he was fine with Trump sabotaging functioning government for a wall even GOPers know isn’t needed.

That also makes the GOP complicit and compromised and there are no redeeming features.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:45:55am

re: #188 Jay C

I guess 1000 jobs at their plant is better than no jobs, but it’s still a far cry from the “13,000” Walker loved to bray about.

It may be “better”, but the ROI sucks raw donkey balls.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:46:02am

re: #188 Jay C

IIRC, Scott Walker and the WI GOP were so desperate to come up with ANY sort of big-money high-tech deal, they gave the shop away to the Chinese, decided to rely on Foxconn’s (unspecific) “projections” as to expansion, and when questioned about the particulars (especially the upfront money), reacted in the usual Republican style: I.e., dismiss, ignore and vilify any opponents, harp on the “jobs, jobs, jobs” theme, and then go ahead and approve the deal anyway.

I guess 1000 jobs at their plant is better than no jobs, but it’s still a far cry from the “13,000” Walker loved to bray about.

Foxconn was a long con by the company on Wisconsin. Walker, Ryan, and Trump all touted this corporate welfare as a job creator, and it’s going to end up costing $4 million a job.

The company got billions. The state should clawback every last penny for not adhering to the deal and promises. That’s money that would have been better spend on higher education or infrastructure. GOPers are fine with redistributing wealth - as long as it flows to companies and billionaires who are least in need of it.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:46:20am

….well fuck.

Because what can go wrong with something like this in Doxxing culture?

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Mike Lamb  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:48:54am

re: #159 Kilroy was here

OT:
A CURE FOR CANCER? ISRAELI SCIENTISTS SAY THEY THINK THEY FOUND ONE
“We believe we will offer in a year’s time a complete cure for cancer.”
jpost.com

Sciences Rules

(Lets hope it works)

When they say it lasts a few weeks—the actual treatments? Because it reads like the “cure” is only for about 3 weeks.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:51:28am

re: #197 Mike Lamb

When they say it lasts a few weeks—the actual treatments? Because it reads like the “cure” is only for about 3 weeks.

That’s how I read it , too. And, considering that “cancer” is many, many different etiologies, this sounds way too good to be true.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:51:28am

re: #197 Mike Lamb

When they say it lasts a few weeks—the actual treatments? Because it reads like the “cure” is only for about 3 weeks.

that is a great start

we cannot ask too much right off the bat

Like asking for a painkiller that prevents you from ever getting another headache

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:52:58am

re: #196 Citizen K

….well fuck.

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Because what can go wrong with something like this in Doxxing culture?

It’s just helping your boss to help you help yourself. They have your best interest at heart.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:54:50am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a great start

we cannot ask too much right off the bat

Like asking for a painkiller that prevents you from ever getting another headache

I just have a hard time calling 3 weeks a “cure” (assuming my reading his correct). It’s just a different type of palliative care.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:57:50am

re: #30 DodgerFan1988

I’ll admit, I think aspects of the story sound a little suspicious. So I’ll reserve judgment until we know more.

OTOH, Pizza-Gate believing magawingnuts aren’t the most credible skeptics.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:59:17am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

also delusional, no surprise

President MAGA who doesn’t believe his own country’s IC is telling us all about his marvelous yuuuuuge foreign policy intelligence victories.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 8:59:38am

re: #202 Sir John Barron

I’ll admit, I think aspects of the story sound a little suspicious. So I’ll reserve judgment until we know more.

OTOH, Pizza-Gate believing magawingnuts aren’t the most credible skeptics.

It depends what they are being skeptical of

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:00:40am

this is one hell of a map and i do feel for all y’all

sorry i live where it’s still yellow and orange (it’s why i moved here)

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:03:30am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It depends what they are being skeptical of

If I was standing outside with a Pizzagate person outside at lunch, and there were no clouds, and they told me the sky was blue, I would have to ask someone else.

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jeffreyw  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:03:55am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a great start

we cannot ask too much right off the bat

Comes with a money back guarantee.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:05:15am

The Republican Senatorial Committee feels burdened to inform me that my membership had not only expired last December, but is only two days away from lapsing.!!1! If I send money by Jan 31, BEFORE MIDNIGHT, we we can still Make America Great Again.

Can’t do much for their database manager, though.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:05:24am

re: #159 Kilroy was here

I’ve lost far more family members to cancer than I care to count. A cure would be awesome, but it sounds like they’ve identified a pathway. They are far away from actually doing controlled tests on cancer patients with a specific type of cancer, let alone all cancers.

This whole approach seems to be based on personalized drug cocktails - they biopsy the cancer, match up the peptides, and then administer the drug until the cancer is gone. That’s the theory.

They haven’t begun human testing yet. It sounds promising, but we’ve heard of these kinds of approaches before, and they haven’t gotten us the desired results.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:08:35am

re: #203 Sir John Barron

The only ones buying his baffling bulkshit are his know nothing Fox base. Fox echoes Trump. Trump repeats Fox. It’s a circle of derp/bulkshit impervious to facts or logic.

Even the IC knows Trump is impervious to facts or logic, because they’ve tried to tell him in no uncertain terms Trump is wrong about so many things, but Trump doesn’t care and is doing great damage to our national security and foreign policy.

The beneficiary of all of Trump’s actions: Russia. Make no mistake, Russia benefits from Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:10:20am

Fuck all y’all at the NYT (except for the Food editors)

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Sir John Barron  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:11:48am

re: #210 lawhawk

The only ones buying his baffling bulkshit are his know nothing Fox base. Fox echoes Trump. Trump repeats Fox. It’s a circle of derp/bulkshit impervious to facts or logic.

Even the IC knows Trump is impervious to facts or logic, because they’ve tried to tell him in no uncertain terms Trump is wrong about so many things, but Trump doesn’t care and is doing great damage to our national security and foreign policy.

The beneficiary of all of Trump’s actions: Russia. Make no mistake, Russia benefits from Trump.

If DJT doesn’t buy his own IC where is he getting his alternative “facts”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:11:51am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Democrats considering a presidential run as a moderate would test whether there is a large audience of primary voters open to promises of incremental change and political compromise or whether the party’s ascendant liberal wing is now fully dominant

Democrats veer hard left! Only the GOP can save us from becoming a Socialist Hellhole!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:13:03am

re: #30 DodgerFan1988

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Of course the Right Wing are going Truther on Jussie Smollett.

Is there a reason to believe that Jussie was personally targeted — as opposed to being attacked because some homophobes wanted to harm a random gay guy they saw on the street?

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:13:08am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Bloomberg and Schultz aren’t what Democrats are looking for. We don’t want or need billionaires deeming that what’s good for billionaires are good for everyone else. They might be socially conscious (huge maybe) but Democrats are looking for so much more.

A Democrat centrist could be: Kamala, Booker, Klobuchar.

And Democrats could run to the left in primaries and then towards the center for the general (the same kind of behavior we’ve seen for decades in presidential elections from Democrats).

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:13:18am

re: #212 Sir John Barron

If DJT doesn’t buy his own IC where is he getting his alternative “facts”?

From Very Good People—the Best People.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:13:37am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Fuck all y’all at the NYT (except for the Food editors)

What is this politcal compromise you speak of?

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:15:11am

re: #212 Sir John Barron

Fox, Infowars, Hannity, Jones, Limbaugh, Coulter, etc.

You know, all the best people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:15:27am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Democrats veer hard left! Only the GOP can save us from becoming a Socialist Hellhole!!!

They want left leaning policies, they just don’t want to CALL them left leaning because it’s a dirty word.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:15:51am

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that a slave ship?

Proposed layout for Frontier airlines.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:18:01am

re: #220 Amory Blaine

Proposed layout for Frontier airlines.

‘Round here, they like to call it a “Peculiar Institution Liner”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:25:08am

re: #210 lawhawk

The beneficiary of all of Trump’s actions: Russia. Make no mistake, Russia benefits from Trump.

They recognized a weakness in our system. Cannot blame them for making full use of it.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:27:04am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They recognized a weakness in our system. Cannot blame them for making full use of it.

Actually we can. Not blaming them is like saying we can’t blame the thief for stealing my wallet because I left it on the table.

The fact that we put ourselves in that situation is our fault.

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:27:40am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They recognized a weakness in our system. Cannot blame them for making full use of it.

It’s my hope that once Trump is out of the way (one way or another, I’m not particular), that the US intel community goes after Putin, hammer and tongs.

Bring that motherfucker low. Steal his money. Ruin him, once and for all. No punishment will be too severe as far as I’m concerned.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:29:19am

Oops. Called da boss, guess I wasn’t supposed to come in today.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:34:03am

re: #223 Belafon

Actually we can. Not blaming them is like saying we can’t blame the thief for stealing my wallet because I left it on the table.

The fact that we put ourselves in that situation is our fault.

What they are doing - influencing public opinion in another country - is not really illegal. Now, if US citizens collude with them to do it, that is another matter entirely.

The second I saw that “trending on Twitter” had become a news item in itself, I started to despair for the future of the Republic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:35:04am

re: #224 makeitstop

It’s my hope that once Trump is out of the way (one way or another, I’m not particular), that the US intel community goes after Putin, hammer and tongs.

Bring that motherfucker low. Steal his money. Ruin him, once and for all. No punishment will be too severe as far as I’m concerned.

There will be no touching him like that, I just want to see his ability to influence our electoral system diminished.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:35:10am
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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:38:44am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What they are doing - influencing public opinion in another country - is not really illegal. Now, if US citizens collude with them to do it, that is another matter entirely.

The second I saw that “trending on Twitter” had become a news item in itself, I started to despair for the future of the Republic.

There’s a difference between legally charging someone and blaming them. Fox is still an evil blight that needs to be eradicated but I can’t legally shut them down.

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:39:10am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There will be no touching him like that, I just want to see his ability to influence our electoral system diminished.

I say make an example of him. Fuck with the bull, get the horns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:39:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:41:15am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:43:18am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah how dare more people vote Mitch. You’re an undemocratic asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:43:31am

heh

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:48:08am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Democrats veer hard left! Only the GOP can save us from becoming a Socialist Hellhole!!!

The press/media is so lost in its own bubble I don’t think it can ever find its way out

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:49:29am

re: #216 Decatur Deb

From Very Good People—the Best People.

Top… men

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:49:51am
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Amory Blaine  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:51:52am

Yeah, Democrats are clamoring for a leader that wants to cut more taxes for the rich and fuck up health care.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:52:14am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

In other words, he’s a Republican.

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:52:45am

Popehat’s Giuliani parody Twitter account gets hosed - too close to the real thing.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:54:28am

re: #240 makeitstop

It’s nearly impossible to parody these people because they’re bugnuts insane, and trying to outdo it is beyond the realm, until they do it themselves.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:54:48am

Dayum

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:58:00am

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 9:58:24am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:00:17am

re: #242 The Vicious Babushka

Dayum

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If she had run for city council they’d be saying start with dog catcher

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freetoken  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:02:05am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:03:52am

re: #240 makeitstop

Popehat’s Giuliani parody Twitter account gets hosed - too close to the real thing.

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Aww man. Was that the Defenser attorney one?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:04:14am

re: #245 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

If she had run for city council they’d be saying start with dog catcher

I don’t know why “dog catcher” is a meme for “lowest elected office” when animal control officers are trained professionals and not elected officials.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:06:09am
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:08:50am

re: #13 Renaissance_Man

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:09:12am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know why “dog catcher” is a meme for “lowest elected office” when animal control officers are trained professionals and not elected officials.

Because that’s what it’s meant since it was first used in the late 1800s: slate.com:

The insult that someone “couldn’t be elected dogcatcher” appears to have originated in the late 1800s. In 1889, the Weekly Courier Journal in Louisville noted that then-President Grover Cleveland was “so unpopular in Washington that he could not be elected dog catcher for the district.” A year later, a letter to the New York Times attacked a politician who “could not get elected on his own popularity and without the aid of his ‘machine’ to the office of dogcatcher were it an elective one” (emphasis added). Dogcatcher is also sometimes used as shorthand for the lowest-level political office. For example, in 1979 National Journal wrote about the collapse of a magazine “designed to appeal to elected officeholders from U.S. Senator to dogcatcher.”

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:10:14am

LoL

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:11:23am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:11:30am

re: #252 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Look my friends, upon the face of pure, unadulterated evil…

best served with a glass of water containing frozen wine cubes

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:11:48am

re: #249 Single-handed sailor

Everyone who didn’t travel to Russia in 2015 was dealing with Butina and working with Russian money.

There’s zero distance between Russia and the NRA. The NRA became a wholly owned subsidiary of the Russian psyop against the US.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:17:24am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Fuck all y’all at the NYT (except for the Food editors)

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Charles Blow, Paul Krugman, Sopan, and now Jamelle Bouie are the only things that bring me back to the NYT. Otherwise it’s an enabling shitshow.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:17:27am
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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:18:15am

Twitter is having none of it:

h/t dailykos.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:19:50am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:21:27am

re: #253 Single-handed sailor

I had the same thought yesterday. He just keeps inflating the numbers thinking if he can get them high enough and scare enough people he can sway public opinion and get his stupid wall.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:22:12am

re: #244 lawhawk

Sorry to hear you are under the weather lawhawk. Same thing happened here last year. Had the flu shot but still got the flu. Doc said it would have been REALLY awful without the flu shot. A big believer in it, not just for myself but to prevent potentially spreading something to newborn or elderly individuals with underdeveloped or weakened immune systems.

Hope you get to feeling better soon!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:23:01am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jesus. How hard would it have been to at least say Carter or Clinton?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:23:53am

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

I had the same thought yesterday. He just keeps inflating the numbers thinking if he can get them high enough and scare enough people he can sway public opinion and get his stupid wall.

He can sway 30%. The rest are no longer listening.

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teleskiguy  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:24:29am

Hope those in the polar vortex are staying warm. Look on the bright side, at least it isn’t -90° F, that’s when your breath freezes and falls to the ground.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:24:30am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He can sway 30%. The rest are no longer listening.

He doesn’t need to sway 30%. They are already the Lemmings who will blindly follow him off any cliff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:24:32am

lol

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:25:50am

re: #264 teleskiguy

Hope those in the polar vortex are staying warm. Look on the bright side, at least it isn’t -90° F, that’s when your breath freezes and falls to the ground.

The Day After Tomorrow Super Freeze Scene

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:25:58am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

Aww man. Was that the Defenser attorney one?

I believe so. That was a funny account, I’m gonna miss it.

I didn’t know Ken White was the guy behind it, though.

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teleskiguy  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:26:19am

Dropped my parents off at the airport at six this morning, it was -7° F with no wind. Is now 7° F under clear blue skies, slow to warm up this morning.

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garzooma  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:26:45am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What they are doing - influencing public opinion in another country - is not really illegal. […]

They stole private information and divulged it to hurt people.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:27:41am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know why “dog catcher” is a meme for “lowest elected office” when animal control officers are trained professionals and not elected officials.

old and hyperbole

afaik they aren’t elected anywhere

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:28:32am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

He really thinks he can say whatever shit comes into his mind and not get called out on it.

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:29:09am

re: #264 teleskiguy

Hope those in the polar vortex are staying warm. Look on the bright side, at least it isn’t -90° F, that’s when your breath freezes and falls to the ground.

Always looking on the bright side, you are. :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:29:27am

re: #270 garzooma

They stole private information and divulged it to hurt people.

That part of it is illegal, but posting disinformation on social media sites is not

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:30:22am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

I think we’ve reached the ignore him stage of his presidential campaign.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:30:25am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He really thinks he can say whatever shit comes into his mind and not get called out on it.

it’s working for….well, you know

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Danack  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:30:42am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He really thinks he can say whatever shit comes into his mind and not get called out on it.

Or, he might just be delusional.

Either way though, I agree it’s not an auspicious start for a candidate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:30:48am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:31:42am

For Gov “Nitwit” Bevin:

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:32:50am
President Trump lashed out at U.S. intelligence officials, calling them “extremely passive and naive” about the “dangers of Iran” and pushing back on their assessments of the Islamic State and North Korea during a congressional hearing, the Washington Post reports.

“In tweets, Trump offered what amounted to a rebuttal of testimony on global threats provided to the Senate on Tuesday by a panel of top officials from his administration.”

so it’s time someone, ANYONE with a voice and access says PROVE IT: how specifically are you making your assessment?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:32:57am

re: #249 Single-handed sailor

I’m surprised they don’t just own it. That’s what their Dear Leader has done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:33:30am

re: #277 Danack

Or, he might just be delusional.

Either way though, I agree it’s not an auspicious start for a candidate.

It’s not delusion, it is just an attitude that winning an argument is more important than stating facts.

It is about telling people whatever he thinks they need to hear at the time

and yes, he saw it working for other politicians and decided that it was his turn to join in the fun and games.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:33:32am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He really thinks he can say whatever shit comes into his mind and not get called out on it.

Because that’s exactly what Trump does and the media gives him a fucking pass.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:35:21am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, Schultz is an idiot.

I’d take Gary “What’s Allepo?” Johnson over him.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:35:39am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

gmta

re: #276 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:36:00am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

So he’s hoping to appeal to those Democrats that like Trump’s way of doing things but would rather vote for someone else.

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MsJ  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:36:35am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:36:37am

This is my fear. That thanks to Trump, the next election cycle will just be an unstoppable avalanche of bullshit from all sides.

Because no one cares about the truth anymore.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:37:07am

re: #286 Belafon

So he’s hoping to appeal to those Democrats that like Trump’s way of doing things but would rather vote for someone else.

What, all five of them?

//

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ObserverArt  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:39:12am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heh, is Taco a Golden Basset?

He sure has the eyes, ears and what appears to be short legs.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:39:15am

re: #288 Eclectic Cyborg

This is my fear. That thanks to Trump, the next election cycle will just be an unstoppable avalanche of bullshit from all sides.

Because no one cares about the truth anymore.

Luckily, we’re still at the stage where that only applies to one party. That’s why Schultz is not getting any traction.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:40:15am

BTW, if you wanted any other reason to say “Fuck Matt Bevin”, here you go:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:40:48am

re: #292 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

BTW, if you wanted any other reason to say “Fuck Matt Bevin”, here you go:

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Wow. How the hell is that legal?

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:41:45am

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow. How the hell is that legal?

Yeah, seems like a lawsuit to me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:42:40am
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Old Liberal  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:44:08am

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

And while I have no first hand knowledge about exactly how he’s set up his holdings my educated guess, based on his statement that he decided to explore running for President because of AOC’s 70% top marginal rate policy proposal, is that the vast majority of that stock is being held in some kind of traditional pre-tax IRA. In other words, he never went Roth. Meaning under such a proposal he’s likely to be hit hard if he liquidates his holdings because almost all of it will be classified as income instead of capital gains.

Basically, this motherfucker is scared, and he’s trying to get Trump re-elected out of nothing but pure greed.

Meanwhile the worker bees can’t put more than $5500 away (IF they could afford it. Thirty years of max contribution about $175,000, but Schultz gets to abuse the system (like Romney) and put away millions tax deferred.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:45:26am

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow. How the hell is that legal?

re: #294 Belafon

Yeah, seems like a lawsuit to me.

Don’t know? There is sure to be push back from historical preservationists, of which there are plenty in the area, connected to the University of Kentucky.

May be one more thing that becomes an issue in the race for Governor this year.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:45:48am

re: #268 makeitstop

I believe so. That was a funny account, I’m gonna miss it.

I didn’t know Ken White was the guy behind it, though.

Could he get away with it if he changed the handle to include “_parodyaccount”?

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ObserverArt  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:50:43am

re: #279 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

For Gov “Nitwit” Bevin:

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Way to go Al!

I’m sure Bevin just has to have some kind of a retort that will mention New York liberals, tough Kentuckians and weathermen should not mess with politicians and stay in their lanes where they can get paid for being wrong.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:51:16am

re: #296 Old Liberal

Meanwhile the worker bees can’t put more than $5500 away (IF they could afford it. Thirty years of max contribution about $175,000, but Schultz gets to abuse the system (like Romney) and put away millions tax deferred.

x

IRA’s have a limit for everyone — and it’s currently 5500 (except for an additional 1000 allowed if you are over 50). In the past the limit was lower. So it’s unlikely that is how his shares are being held.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:51:27am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

Because that’s exactly what Trump does and the media gives him a fucking pass.

Trump was a curiousity that got legitimacy once he started spewing Republican talking points and ad hoc racist screeds, plus he thrives on attention, no matter how bad.

Schultz is like Trump but without those negative (to us, but for his base, positive) quantities. He’s a boring old billionaire that the media is trying to prop up, and it just isn’t working.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:53:38am
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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:55:17am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

If you claim to be pro life but seek to gut health coverage for millions, deprive millions of food, housing, and heating assistance, and deprive children of food aid (SNAP), you’re not pro life.

You’re a fucking asshat. And a forced birth asshat at that.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:55:20am

re: #299 ObserverArt

Way to go Al!

I’m sure Bevin just has to have some kind of a retort that will mention New York liberals, tough Kentuckians and weathermen should not mess with politicians and stay in their lanes where they can get paid for being wrong.

Fun fact, Al Roker worked in Cleveland for several years as the chief meteorologist for the market’s NBC affiliate before NBC promoted him to New York.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:55:29am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

Remember, to Ben and a lot of Right-to-Lifers, abortion = infanticide and there is no budging them on that point. Even when a pregnancy is the result of rape or incest.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:56:14am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s still hating on pro choice women. Good look Ben. What are you going to do when your daughter is older and pro choice? You gonna challenge her to a debate you hateful infantile asshole?

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Mike Lamb  Jan 30, 2019 • 10:58:33am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

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Harvard should revoke his degree.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:00:10am

re: #300 Hecuba’s daughter

x

IRA’s have a limit for everyone — and it’s currently 5500 (except for an additional 1000 allowed if you are over 50). In the past the limit was lower. So it’s unlikely that is how his shares are being held.

Also — in IRA’s — once you reach age 70 1/2 you are forced to take distributions, which are taxed as ordinary income. There’s no way Schultz would be interested in exchanging the harsh earned income rates with the much more favorable capital gains rates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:00:18am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

He’s still hating on pro choice women. Good look Ben. What are you going to do when your daughter is older and pro choice? You gonna challenge her to a debate you hateful infantile asshole?

I can assure you that if his daughter gets knocked up by someone he does not want to have as a son-in-law, he will privately rethink his position on abortion

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:00:20am

Baby Whiplash and all the other pro-deathers (for human beings like Savita Halapanavar who was deemed less worthy than a fetus) are all umgebroyzelt over this Fox News headline.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:00:51am

re: #307 Mike Lamb

Harvard should revoke his degree.

I don’t see him calling pro death penalty activists murderers but then again he’s a little hypocrite who has never had an original thought in his life.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:00:53am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, to Ben and a lot of Right-to-Lifers, abortion = infanticide and there is no budging them on that point. Even when a pregnancy is the result of rape or incest.

But suggesting that anyone, anywhere has advocated the “murder” of “born alive” infants is fucking stupid. VB was right…literally no one has argued this. And it doesn’t make sense even if you want to run with the “life begins at conception” bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:00:58am

re: #308 Hecuba’s daughter

Also — in IRA’s — once you reach age 70 1/2 you are forced to take distributions, which are taxed as ordinary income. There’s no way Schultz would be interested in exchanging the harsh earned income rates with the much more favorable capital gains rates.

Well, these questions will all be answered when he releases his tax returns…

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Mike Lamb  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:02:41am

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash and all the other pro-deathers (for human beings like Savita Halapanavar who was deemed less worthy than a fetus) are all umgebroyzelt over this Fox News headline.

So he still has to misrepresent the situation.

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Alephnaught  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:04:13am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

“My definition of feminism is the free and willful murder of born alive infants” said no actual human being, ever.

Except that’s exactly what Ben Shapiro has just done. Okay, he may not believe that definition, but that adds a level of lying and cynicism that makes it even worse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:05:21am

re: #315 Alephnaught

Except that’s exactly what Ben Shapiro has just done. Okay, he may not believe that definition, but that adds a level of lying and cynicism that makes it even worse.

He is good at winning arguments by putting points of view into other people’s mouths and assuming things as given.

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Old Liberal  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:06:40am

re: #300 Hecuba’s daughter

x

IRA’s have a limit for everyone — and it’s currently 5500 (except for an additional 1000 allowed if you are over 50). In the past the limit was lower. So it’s unlikely that is how his shares are being held.

No, there is some loophole where they undervalue what they are putting in and then 5 years later the value has skyrocketed. They are basically stuffing $100000 in and calling it $5500. Romney did this exact thing. Whether Schultz did I don’t know but i don’t see why he wouldn’t They Run the same cons.

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Alephnaught  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:07:12am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is good at winning arguments by putting points of view into other people’s mouths and assuming things as given.

Well, it is easier to knock down a straw man that converse with a real person about real issues.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:07:17am

Rich white dudes are really working overtime to make people hate them.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:07:33am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, to Ben and a lot of Right-to-Lifers, abortion = infanticide and there is no budging them on that point. Even when a pregnancy is the result of rape or incest.

to which i always reply:
a fertilized egg/blastocyst/less than 3 week embryo <> infant/baby/child

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:08:06am

re: #315 Alephnaught

Except that’s exactly what Ben Shapiro has just done. Okay, he may not believe that definition, but that adds a level of lying and cynicism that makes it even worse.

This is his typical “THIS IS WHAT ‘LEFTISTS’ BELIEVE” strawman bullshit.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:09:11am

re: #314 Mike Lamb

So he still has to misrepresent the situation.

it’s the way
otherwise he’s got nothing

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Old Liberal  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:09:25am

re: #300 Hecuba’s daughter

x

IRA’s have a limit for everyone — and it’s currently 5500 (except for an additional 1000 allowed if you are over 50). In the past the limit was lower. So it’s unlikely that is how his shares are being held.

Atlantic did an article on this titled “Romney’s 102 million dollar IRA”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:12:21am

re: #318 Alephnaught

Well, it is easier to knock down a straw man that converse with a real person about real issues.

Yep and he does it all the fucking time and fancies himself a brilliant mind because of it. He’s a little fraud who blatantly misrepresents arguments and then has his lackeys on his website post hyperbolic verbs of praise for him. Too bad Harvard Law couldn’t have given that spot to someone who actually would have put that JD to good use rather than a little fraud who likes to act like he’s this intellectual voice even though he was Milo’s best bud for ages.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:13:02am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:14:51am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s not feminism, Ben. That’s being a good person. Something you’ll never be. BTW does your five year old know what you spent the day of her birth doing? Using your wife and daughter as a get out for your misogynous tendencies is a really bad look dude. You might get it if you didn’t have a giant stick up your asshole all the time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:15:12am

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash and all the other pro-deathers (for human beings like Savita Halapanavar who was deemed less worthy than a fetus) are all umgebroyzelt over this Fox News headline.

Look at the treatment this story is getting from Google news:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:15:24am

I sincerely do feel bad for his wife and daughter because he’s a shit person who does shit things.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:16:41am

re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg

Look at the treatment this story is getting from Google news:

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I have no problem at all with that. There’s a lot of complications that could occur in the third trimester and maybe Ben’s wife the doctor could tell him about that when he gets his out of his ass for once.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:17:23am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:19:21am

re: #320 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

to which i always reply:
a fertilized egg/blastocyst/less than 3 week embryo <> infant/baby/child

They are all whipped up from the Faux Noise headline HURR HURR LIBERALS WANTS TO KILL ALL TEH BABBYS ONE DAY EVEN BEFORE A DUE DATE!!1!!!!!!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:19:53am

The ever-perceptive (albeit fake) comrades at DPRK News get it right again:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:20:14am

tbh, it’s no big trick to “second guess” the moron

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:20:20am

re: #330 Charles Johnson

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Nothing thoughtful at all about that. Just sexism and racism with a healthy topping of self righteous douchebaggery.

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Mattand  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:20:26am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

I sincerely do feel bad for his wife and daughter because he’s a shit person who does shit things.

Eh, I wouldn’t be so quick to feel bad for Mrs. Shapiro. She married him, so she had to have some inkling of what she was in for, unless he’s had a massive ideological shift over the years.

Along that lines, if she’s married to him, there’s a good chance she’s anti-aboriton and conservative as well. Which always scares the shit out of me when it comes to medical professionals, because the potential for denying medical care based on your political and religious beliefs is a huge issue.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:21:17am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

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tbh, it’s no big trick to “second guess” the moron

Shorter Dobbs, fire everyone who isn’t a yes man for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:22:06am

re: #335 Mattand

Eh, I wouldn’t be so quick to feel bad for Mrs. Shapiro. She married him, so she had to have some inkling of what she was in for, unless he’s had a massive ideological shift over the years.

Along that lines, if she’s married to him, there’s a good chance she’s anti-aboriton and conservative as well. Which always scares the shit out of me when it comes to medical professionals, because the potential for denying medical care based on your political and religious beliefs is fucking inhuman.

True true. And yeah I hear ya about anti abortion and would add anti science in general physicians.

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Alephnaught  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:23:42am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What’s this “murdering babies outside the womb” nonsense? Seems like a strawman version of abortion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:25:43am

heads up, Philly area lizardz:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:27:09am

re: #338 Alephnaught

What’s this “murdering babies outside the womb” nonsense? Seems like a strawman version of abortion.

it’s just Ben being an eejit, as usual for a day ending in Y

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:27:18am

re: #290 ObserverArt

Heh, is Taco a Golden Basset?

He sure has the eyes, ears and what appears to be short legs.

Cocker spaniel?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:29:08am

re: #338 Alephnaught

What’s this “murdering babies outside the womb” nonsense? Seems like a strawman version of abortion.

VA proposal to allow abortion in the third trimester looks like.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:29:16am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s worse - not only should they tell the President what he wants to hear, but they should lie under oath before Congress.

Dobbs really jumped with both feet onto the Fascism bandwagon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:29:44am

re: #338 Alephnaught

What’s this “murdering babies outside the womb” nonsense? Seems like a strawman version of abortion.

NY passed a law last week allowing for third trimester abortions if the mothers life is at risk and the RWNJs have been losing their minds about it ever since.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:30:17am

re: #343 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s worse - not only should they tell the President what he wants to hear, but they should lie under oath before Congress.

Dobbs really jumped with both feet onto the Fascism bandwagon.

He’ll be back fearing any Dem proposal as big government as soon as Trump loses.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:30:50am

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

NY passed a law last week allowing for third trimester abortions if the mothers life is at risk and the RWNJs have been losing their minds about it ever since.

Which in fact is a perfectly reasonable position.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:31:10am

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

NY passed a law last week allowing for third trimester abortions if the mothers life is at risk and the RWNJs have been losing their minds about it ever since.

The law codifes Roe.

That in and of itself is enough to enrage the right. It even got some of the Christian fascists to call for Cuomo to be excommunicated from the Church.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:34:40am
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mmmirele  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:35:57am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

I have no problem at all with that. There’s a lot of complications that could occur in the third trimester and maybe Ben’s wife the doctor could tell him about that when he gets his out of his ass for once.

I am now at the point in this discussion where I proceed to rip these asshats a new one. My mother nearly died of preeclampsia when I was born in 1960. And preeclampsia is very much still a thing. I remember her telling me how a girlfriend of hers came into the hospital after she’d delivered me and was able to see people (at least three days after I was born) and counted the places on my mom’s body where she’d been stuck with needles. They came up with 64. It was serious business—my parents were still paying off my delivery bill when my younger siblings were born.

I had a woman tell me this morning that pregnancy is not dangerous. I gave her a ******* earful!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:36:42am

re: #348 lawhawk

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He also benefited from the same programs that he’d cut. Besides Dana, I thought your organization was about guns.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:37:21am

re: #348 lawhawk

If I could respond to Dana, it would go like this: “I was the first person to go to college in my family, and the first person to get my masters. Am I qualified to perform heart surgery on you?”

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:37:57am

Didn’t see this one coming….//////

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:38:13am

re: #349 mmmirele

I am now at the point in this discussion where I proceed to rip these asshats a new one. My mother nearly died of preeclampsia when I was born in 1960. And preeclampsia is very much still a thing. I remember her telling me how a girlfriend of hers came into the hospital after she’d delivered me and was able to see people (at least three days after I was born) and counted the places on my mom’s body where she’d been stuck with needles. They came up with 64. It was serious business—my parents were still paying off my delivery bill when my younger siblings were born.

I had a woman tell me this morning that pregnancy is not dangerous. I gave her a ******* earful!

Wow. Glad your mom made it through but yeah part of the reason why I’m 100% choice is that pregnancy is no picnic.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:38:40am

re: #351 Belafon

You mean you didn’t get your MD at Twitter U? You didn’t do your residency at Holiday Inn Express?

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:39:24am

re: #348 lawhawk

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They know he’s Trumps best hope of re-election and I’m sure Comrade Putin is letting them know to push him.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:40:17am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

The US has among the worst mortality rates for pregnant women of any OECD nation, or any first world nation.

It’s beyond pitiful.

And a big reason for this is that the right wing extremists have made it difficult for women to get appropriate care, and then make it tougher for women to get abortions when those pregnancies threaten the life of the woman.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:41:37am

re: #352 Barefoot Grin

Didn’t see this one coming….//////

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Weird story but I saw him on an old Forsenic Files the other night.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:42:17am

re: #356 lawhawk

The US has among the worst mortality rates for pregnant women of any OECD nation, or any first world nation.

It’s beyond pitiful.

And a big reason for this is that the right wing extremists have made it difficult for women to get appropriate care, and then make it tougher for women to get abortions when those pregnancies threaten the life of the woman.

Precisely

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:42:21am

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Which in fact is a perfectly reasonable position.

‘losing their minds’, oh absolutely

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:42:47am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

Weird story but I saw him on an old Forsenic Files the other night.

I’ve seen that one, too. Or maybe there’s more than one.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:43:04am

“Alexa!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:43:07am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:43:39am

re: #348 lawhawk

Schultz grew up in the projects, was the first of his family to go to college, and turned a tiny coffeeshop into a multi-billion dollar company. How much more should he “work his way up?

the question is why does he want to pull the ladder up after him?

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:45:39am

re: #363 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Fuck you. I got mine.

It’s the same we saw from Paul Ryan, and other folks who benefited from a safety net but have decided to screw anyone who comes after them.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:45:56am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:48:38am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

Weird story but I saw him on an old Forsenic Files the other night.

i believe it’s pronounced ‘fornesic”
you could jump to 0:58 but there’s no reason to…

YouTube

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:48:58am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:52:06am

re: #352 Barefoot Grin

Didn’t see this one coming….//////

What?! They hired a former GOP congressperson?

//

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:53:39am

re: #362 Blind Frog Belly White

This is the majority leader of the U.S. Senate admitting that, if voting were easier instead of harder, Republicans would be in trouble.

the hands are getting a lot more action since the midterms
(no. do not go there)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:53:42am

Only one problem with that advice. It presumes he can read.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:54:39am

re: #365 Charles Johnson

OK. So how do we get the media to stop treating Howard Schultz like a real candidate? The barrage of coverage he’s getting is absolutely fucking ridiculous, and an object lesson in how wealthy people are treated differently by the media.

boy does that sound familiar and cause a shudder (empty podiums)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 30, 2019 • 11:55:59am

re: #369 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

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the hands are getting a lot more action since the midterms
(no. do not go there)

George Costanza: You can’t break up with me! I’ve got Hand!

Woman breaking up with George: And you’re going to need it.

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retired cynic  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:00:28pm

Two articles connected by a theme: both by Nancy LeTourneau in Washington Monthly.

What Happens When a Metropolitan Area [Minneapolis-St Paul] Shares the Wealth

The Price Wisconsin Will Pay For the Foxconn Deal

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:01:12pm

re: #366 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

i believe it’s pronounced ‘fornesic”
you could jump to 0:58 but there’s no reason to…

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D’oh Forensic.

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Mattand  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:02:20pm

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

heads up, Philly area lizardz:

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Appreciate it. I’m just on the eastern edge of that. The damn iOS devices are going off every half an hour with weather warnings, it seems like.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:02:26pm

re: #370 Blind Frog Belly White

Only one problem with that advice. It presumes he can read.

Have we ever had a POTUS who routinely trashed, ignored and contradicted the Intelligence findings of his own country’s IC of which he was nominally in charge?

Rhetorical question

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Sir John Barron  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:04:49pm

re: #376 Sir John Barron

Have we ever had a POTUS who routinely trashed, ignored and contradicted the Intelligence findings of his own country’s IC of which he was nominally in charge?

Rhetorical question

That’s what we LOVE about him! #MAGA #DrainTheSwamp #DeepState

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:08:16pm

re: #365 Charles Johnson

Last time it was the things we did not do that let it happen. Not you and I or the people here. I mean the media, the interviewers, all those that claim any faith to facts first as an approach. To me that’s how you marginalize the crap that we can’t stop because 1st A, FB policies, clever trolls and well monied enemies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:09:42pm

re: #342 HappyWarrior

VA proposal to allow abortion in the third trimester looks like.

which I assume would only be for medical emergencies but is being presented as infanticide

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:11:45pm

re: #376 Sir John Barron

Have we ever had a POTUS who routinely trashed, ignored and contradicted the Intelligence findings of his own country’s IC of which he was nominally in charge?

Rhetorical question

Look, there are times when a president takes the advice from their IC and goes against their preferences. There are times when they follow the IC recommendations and it goes all wrong (Bay of Pigs anyone).

Trump consistently ignores IC, facts, logic, stats, evidence, produced by his own government when it counters everything he fucking says.

He lies about everything. He lies about immigration and the border crisis. He lies about foreign policy. He lies about the economy and the benefits of the tax scam TCJA. He was more interested in getting the name of the tax scam just right than paying attention to the details of what it’d do to the economy long term (CBO - long term effect is bupkus, with massive debt in the process).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:13:01pm

re: #380 lawhawk

Trump consistently ignores IC, facts, logic, stats, evidence, produced by his own government when it counters everything he fucking says.

Do you think he has ever read en entire briefing? He wants one page with no more than ten bullet points.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:14:27pm

re: #380 lawhawk

Look, there are times when a president takes the advice from their IC and goes against their preferences. There are times when they follow the IC recommendations and it goes all wrong (Bay of Pigs anyone).

Trump consistently ignores IC, facts, logic, stats, evidence, produced by his own government when it counters everything he fucking says.

He lies about everything. He lies about immigration and the border crisis. He lies about foreign policy. He lies about the economy and the benefits of the tax scam TCJA. He was more interested in getting the name of the tax scam just right than paying attention to the details of what it’d do to the economy long term (CBO - long term effect is bupkus, with massive debt in the process).

i think this is mostly true, yes.

i would add that im very confident he doesnt ignore it all.
i think he doesnt even read a lot of it at all

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:14:49pm

re: #381 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do you think he has ever read en entire briefing? He wants one page with no more than ten bullet points.

gmta again, again, againre: #382 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:17:41pm

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which I assume would only be for medical emergencies but is being presented as infanticide

richmond.com

I would say so. This is the VA GOP trying to prevent itself from being irrelevant by spreading fauxrage.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 30, 2019 • 12:38:48pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

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tbh, it’s no big trick to “second guess” the moron

The comeback for that is, “No I won’t agree with him. If I did then we would both be wrong!”.

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KerFuFFler  Jan 30, 2019 • 1:39:29pm

re: #197 Mike Lamb

When they say it lasts a few weeks—the actual treatments? Because it reads like the “cure” is only for about 3 weeks.

I’m pretty sure they mean the treatment takes three weeks. You would not call a three week cancer-free remission a “cure”.


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