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mmmirele  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:20:29am

Speaking of comedians, Ellen Page was on Colbert yesterday and she absolutely laid the SMACK down on Mike Pence.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:25:48am

re: #1 mmmirele

Speaking of comedians, Ellen Page was on Colbert yesterday and she absolutely laid the SMACK down on Mike Pence.

Like they’re going to listen to a lesbian.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:26:24am

gaaaah

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mmmirele  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:26:36am

re: #2 Belafon

Like they’re going to listen to a lesbian.

We gotta keep speaking up. that is all.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:26:41am
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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:28:32am

re: #1 mmmirele

Wow. A very powerful message indeed.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:36:41am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaah

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What is this Rob Portman endorsing Trump shit???

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:36:47am

re: #5 Single-handed sailor

Bone-spurred draft dodger thinks everyone has forgotten.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:39:38am

Immigrant Panic Tactical Fail

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:43:54am

re: #9 jaunte

I’ve spent decades covering human trafficking, and I find this sentiment so exploitative. Yes, women immigrants are fleeing assault, or are assaulted on the journey. So why refuse asylum? Why send them back to be assaulted? Why seize their children? Why demonize them as threats?
— Nicholas Kristof

Because shut up

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:47:53am

re: #7 ObserverArt

What is this Rob Portman endorsing Trump shit???

From The Hill yesterday:

Gardner, Portman endorse Trump for 2020

Another previous Republican critic of Trump, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), also offered his endorsement to the president, telling IJR that he was backing Trump, because he’s already in the White House.

“He’s the incumbent,” Portman said. “I mean, he’s in office, I work with him every day.”

“I disagree with him publicly and privately when appropriate,” he added. “But I also get a lot done, and I get that done with him. So we work with the White House, and I think that’s important for Ohio.”

Unlike Gardner, Portman isn’t up for reelection next year. But the Ohio Republican’s endorsement could potentially give Trump a boost in Ohio, one of the nation’s closest-watched electoral battlegrounds.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:47:56am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:50:26am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I disagree with him publicly and privately when appropriate,” he added. “But I also get a lot done, and I get that done with him. So we work with the White House, and I think that’s important for Ohio.”

A ringing endorsement.

/

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:52:53am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I am so awesome to receive these Great endorsements which has never happened for any other president ever to get endorsements while being president how come FAKE News Media won’t report?”

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plansbandc  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:54:21am
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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:56:07am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

From The Hill yesterday:

Gardner, Portman endorse Trump for 2020

I hope this costs Portman and other Republicans Ohio.

I read the Hill article and immediately fired off a comment to Portman about it.

I swear, Portman is as dirty as Graham.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2019 • 11:56:55am

re: #13 Sir John Barron

A ringing endorsement.

/

The endorsement of a compromised wimp.

Exactly what I just wrote to Portman.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:13:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:21:11pm

O_o

. @VP Pence: The fight in Venezuela is between dictatorship and democracy, and freedom has the impetus. Nicolas Maduro is a dictator without legitimate right to power, and Nicolas Maduro must leave!

irony is ded

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:22:59pm
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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:23:35pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

irony is ded

Maybe Madura will declare a National Emergency in response

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:25:14pm

re: #10 Sir John Barron

Because shut up

Because they’re not doing it the white way.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:25:59pm

(right wing scream of anguish)

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:27:09pm

re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Flag patch is on the wrong shoulder of that kid’s uniform. Which just makes it even better for me.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:27:47pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:31:41pm

re: #24 KGxvi

Flag patch is on the wrong shoulder of that kid’s uniform. Which just makes it even better for me.

it’s on the correct side as prescribed by the Boy Scout uniform guidelines

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BigPapa  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:38:34pm

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

If we ever have a LGF BBQ you and Jeffrey will be head chefs. I’ll be your sous chef any time. Just feed me wine, give me a knife and cutting board, and stuff to chop/slice/chiffonade.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:43:19pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t there supposed to be an ‘h’ in ghoul?

Which would explain a lot about conservative behaviour.

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TedStriker  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:45:58pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

it’s on the correct side as prescribed by the Boy Scout uniform guidelines

Left shoulder (top to bottom): council patch, unit number, unit anniversary strip (optional), office/position patch, Trained patch (optional, but training recommended for all registered adults and position-specific training is required for all unit leaders)

Right shoulder (top to bottom): US flag patch (unlike current US military placement, where the star field always faces toward the wearer’s front on both/either shoulder, as in a infantry charge, the BSA US flag patch always has the star field on the left side), patrol patch (youth), area for optional patches, Quality Unit patch

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:51:34pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:53:47pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Saw the tweet about Jenny McCarthy and decided to go to Wiki to see what has been said about all of that since she first said her son had autism from the vaccinations back in 2007.

Now I am confused about what she was up to. Apparently she may have jumped the gun on her son’s autism.

Anyone else familiar with what is really going on? Did she cause a panic when it was even needed in her own son’s case?

From the very first paragraph under “Activism” is this:

In May 2007, McCarthy announced that her son Evan was diagnosed with autism in 2005. Before claiming that her son’s autism was caused by vaccination, McCarthy wrote that he was gifted, a “crystal child”, and she an “indigo mom”.[53] Evan’s disorder began with seizures and his improvement occurred after the seizures were treated, which symptoms experts have noted are more consistent with Landau-Kleffner syndrome, often misdiagnosed as autism.[6][7] She has denied that her son was misdiagnosed.[54][55] In a 2014 Daily Beast article, she says her son is now 12 and doing okay: “Evan’s amazing, … He doesn’t meet the diagnostic characteristics for autism. He definitely has quirks and issues from the seizures. He has a little bit of brain damage due to his seizures. He doesn’t qualify for any more services, but he does have issues in his school.”[8]

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:55:29pm

US Intel report-The Enemy Threat is US

That tension hinted at another threat, one that didn’t come up directly in Tuesday’s hearing but appeared prominently in a report last week from director of national intelligence Dan Coats: That various recent actions by the United States may be undermining its own security.

JFC this is completely out of hand.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 12:57:44pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:00:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:00:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:02:43pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

It amazes me how much energy some people are willing to put into disenfranchising and maligning others.

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ckkatz  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:04:42pm

re: #32 Unshaken Defiance

US Intel report-The Enemy Threat is US

JFC this is completely out of hand.

Thanks for posting!

Yes, the unstated elephant/problem in the security room is Trump.

What is interesting is how more and more folks are finally willing to admit it. Even if it is not yet a majority in the Republican party.

I think that this shows a weakening Trump.

Which is a two edged sword. On one hand, we need to return to reality from Trump’s la-la land. On the other hand, when we hit a real crisis, the current administration (and the rest of us will be along for the ride) is going to be even less able to respond effectively to it.

Buckle up folks.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:08:34pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She can laugh all she wants but he’s more of a success than she’ll ever be.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:09:17pm
Welcome to the party, pal.
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:09:26pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

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Fucking assholes just don’t care about lgbt people as human beings with rights.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:11:24pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Fucking assholes just don’t care about lgbt people as human beings with rights.

Yeah and imagine how much these same people would be screeching if the roles were were reversed and the State was overruling a discriminatory regulation for non-discriminatory one?

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Sea Mexican  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:12:32pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

*Scratches Arkansas from places to consider moving.*

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:13:35pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah and imagine how much these same people would be screeching if the roles were were reversed and the State was overruling a discriminatory regulation for non-discriminatory one?

They don’t and they think things like same sex marriage discriminate against them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:14:47pm

City: We’ve decided we don’t want to be discriminatory assholes.

State: Too bad, you have to be discriminatory assholes whether you want to be or not!

City: Uh, what?

State: Religious Freedom!

City: …

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:15:03pm

re: #39 Blind Frog Belly White

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Life moves pretty fast….

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:16:20pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:18:26pm

re: #46 jaunte

I’m still in agreement with the Russian loan payment theory.

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TedStriker  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:19:08pm

re: #46 jaunte

3. The purpose of the FEC reports is so the public can see how campaign funds are spent. American Made Media Consultants, LLC is just a legal fiction created to obscure how the Trump campaign is spending its money. And it’s spending A LOT.

Where is it all going?

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 1, 2019

La Cosa Trump’s pockets.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:19:45pm

Today on “Mall Ninja AF” we have a $1000 brass skull molle clip. It may be called Airsoft but you can still be the hardest penis doing it.

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TedStriker  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:23:09pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

Today on “Mall Ninja AF” we have a $1000 brass skull molle clip. It may be called Airsoft but you can still be the hardest penis doing it.

Who fucking buys this shit, for that much fucking money?

/that was a rhetorical question…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:23:41pm

re: #48 TedStriker

La Cosa Trump’s pockets.

La Queso Nuestro?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:23:54pm

re: #50 TedStriker

Unmarried fanboys with way too much disposable income.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:27:47pm

re: #5 Single-handed sailor

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He is finally taking his bone spurs to Da Nang.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:29:00pm

His career is toast now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:31:17pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

In todays GOP climate, nothing is assured.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:31:20pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

His career is toast now.

Whaaat

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:32:09pm

re: #55 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s a Democrat.

The anti-abortion crowd has been attacking him all day because of an abortion bill in VA.

Now conveniently this happens.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:32:48pm

re: #57 freetoken

He’s a Democrat.

The anti-abortion crowd has been attacking him all day because of an abortion bill in VA.

Now conveniently this happens.

Oh, damn. Well, yeah then. His career is probably done for.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:33:40pm

Democrats need to accept that if they have anything in their closet then the GOP operatives will use it against them, no matter how hypocritical the GOP may be.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:34:18pm

re: #57 freetoken

He’s a Democrat.

The anti-abortion crowd has been attacking him all day because of an abortion bill in VA.

Now conveniently this happens.

Is that a Black guy in the Klan robe? Or did Rhett just forget to wash his hands after the weekly cross burnin’?

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:34:27pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, he’s toast. There’s no amount of spin that changes that. 1984? Yeah, you’re still toast.

This is what happens when you’re dealing with the confederacy, white supremacy, and all the awful racism that comes with it.

Racism bleeds across party lines, and is all over the place. Northam can try to claim that he’s very much changed from the Northam from that yearbook, but he will never escape that.

That’s the kind of institutional racism we have to overcome in the US.

And it continues because we’ve never truly had a reckoning with the Civil War and treated the South as the fucking losers that they were - both in losing the war, and in how they treated blacks - first as slaves, then as second class citizens, and that latter bit continues to this day in many parts of the country.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:37:36pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Who would do that even in 1984? And in a yearbook? Not the blackface per se, but the KKK robe?

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:38:42pm

The Virginia conservatives who are shocked at white people appearing in blackface have two black presidential candidates to vote for, if they’re truly penitent.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:42:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:44:50pm
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Eventual Carrion  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:45:05pm

re: #46 jaunte

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Busy laundry.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:46:30pm

I see that Warren and her taking a DNA test is trending again…

The Twitter summary blurb is not bad:

Yet there are many takes that again just miss the mark, e.g. the CNN blurb:

The problem with the CNN blurb is that it makes taking DNA tests to learn about one’s past is a bad thing. That is not what Warren is apologizing for, nor for what the Cherokee nation is concerned.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:50:38pm

And this is the typical MAGAdolt response:

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:50:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:53:12pm
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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:53:52pm
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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:54:01pm

How did this not come to light before now?

No one remembered the blackface and KKK garb?

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TedStriker  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:54:48pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Yeah, he’s toast. There’s no amount of spin that changes that. 1984? Yeah, you’re still toast.

This is what happens when you’re dealing with the confederacy, white supremacy, and all the awful racism that comes with it.

Racism bleeds across party lines, and is all over the place. Northam can try to claim that he’s very much changed from the Northam from that yearbook, but he will never escape that.

That’s the kind of institutional racism we have to overcome in the US.

And it continues because we’ve never truly had a reckoning with the Civil War and treated the South as the fucking losers that they were - both in losing the war, and in how they treated blacks - first as slaves, then as second class citizens, and that latter bit continues to this day in many parts of the country.

That’s why if I see a politician (or wannabe politician) that went to VMI, the Citadel, or any other military academy south of the Mason-Dixon line, my face starts twitching, because stuff like this has been the prevailing culture and, as we’re now seeing with this suspiciously-timed “gotcha” on Northam, it’s become grounds for a (justifiably) sure and quick political death for Democrats.

GOPers have to be loving this…

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Teukka  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:56:16pm

re: #72 lawhawk

How did this not come to light before now?

No one remembered the blackface and KKK garb?

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*whispers* “Selective amnesia”.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 1:59:28pm

re: #73 TedStriker

They couldn’t ask for a better deflection from the steady drumbeat of bad news re: Trump.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:00:45pm

So, serious question, which I know gets asked every time: How far back in someones life are we going to hold them accountable for?

Also, though, just laugh at the GOP. They’re still actively doing things that Democrats gave up a long time ago.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:01:19pm

Remember who the GOP supports.

“…Remember, some of the first words out of Trump’s mouth as a candidate for President was that Mexicans were rapists. Then he maligned a Mexican American judge. And Trump’s acolytes were given free air time to slime this American-born jurist as a “La Raza” agitator.”

“…Bigots can get away with donning stereotypical Mexican garb. They can paste cartoonish mustaches on their faces. Or they can don the likeness of the President of the United States with smug certainty, aware that everyone knows the imagery is not meant as a gesture of goodwill.

This type of bigotry has a cumulative impact. Stereotypes and negative images become common talking points in our culture in absence of facts. It’s why Latinos reacted so strongly to Tom Brokaw’s racist assertions that Latinos don’t assimilate in America when every significant metric proves that they do.”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:01:34pm

she is smart
who’d you want to be speaker?

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) “could move to block President Trump from invoking a national emergency to build a border wall, forcing Senate Republicans to choose between preserving congressional power and crossing the White House,” the Washington Examiner reports.

(h/t politicawire.com)

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:01:41pm

re: #75 lawhawk

They couldn’t ask for a better deflection from the steady drumbeat of bad news re: Trump.

Depends. How many kids has Northam locked in cages?

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:01:46pm

This thing about Warren, Native American ancestry, DNA, is convoluted in our social and political dialogue.

Yet as a topic it does allow the bigotry of the MAGAdolts to come through loud and clear again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:01:56pm

re: #76 Belafon

So, serious question, which I know gets asked every time: How far back in someones life are we going to hold them accountable for?

Depends on if they are a Republican or Democrat.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:01:59pm

Well, lucky for Northam he can’t run for Governor in consecutive terms

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:02:49pm

re: #81 Eclectic Cyborg

Depends on if they are a Republican or Democrat.

The we meant more than Republicans. It also meant people here.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:03:42pm

re: #76 Belafon

As far as I am concerned, any action taken while an adult is fair game.

Given that, I am open to the “I have evolved” approach, as long as subsequent actions do indeed demonstrate a change.

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Weaselone  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:04:14pm

re: #82 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, lucky for Northam he can’t run for Governor in consecutive terms

Has it been confirmed legit?

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:04:36pm

Northam can step down and let the Lt. Governor take over.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:05:42pm

re: #68 freetoken

I thought that her DNA results indicated that she had Native American heritage. It’s really not an issue and we should let her move on. Since I’ve moved to this country, I’ve met Whites and Blacks who tell me that they have Native American ancestry. Seems like it’s just something that quite a few people believe.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:06:27pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

it’s on the correct side as prescribed by the Boy Scout uniform guidelines

But the field of stars is always supposed to lead when displayed like that. So he’s got a left shoulder patch on his right side. Just little pet peeve

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:07:16pm

re: #85 Weaselone

Has it been confirmed legit?

I don’t know
They had better be tracking down at least one more copy of that yearbook

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:08:34pm

re: #83 Belafon

The we meant more than Republicans. It also meant people here.

I know, I was making a joke. This was a question that got litigated previously with Brett Kavanagh.

It’s a tough one because ostensibly it depends on the answer to another question: “At what age does a person reach a point where they should really know better when it comes to doing potentially stupid things?”

Of course, the answer varies because people are different. I would think for most of us the age in question would be mid to late 20s, but again, it can be tough to say.

I know I did some stupid shit in my early 20s that I’ve always more or less deemed “youthful indiscretion”. A newly minted adult has to be allowed to make his or her mistakes after all.

But as we’ve seen, depending on WHO is involved, the narrative changes and you can do all kinds of pretzel twisting to make things people did in their 30s and 40s (when they really should have known better) out to be “minor indiscretions” or some other such nonsense.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:08:56pm

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

I thought that her DNA results indicated that she had Native American heritage.

It did.

The problem is that she stated that she believed (based on her family lore) that her ancestor was Cherokee.

This got all the issues about being a formal tribe member stirred up.

Then the malicious hate-right pushed this problem to abuse Warren, with Trump leading the pack.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:13:45pm

re: #88 KGxvi

But the field of stars is always supposed to lead when displayed like that. So he’s got a left shoulder patch on his right side. Just little pet peeve

No, the “field leading, as if advancing” is a military thing. I salute the BSA for not following suit. The truly proper way to display the colors are with the field positioned to the upper left. As prescribed in the Flag Code

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:13:46pm

While DNA testing can indeed show that you share a recent (past several centuries) ancestor with Native Americans, unless one has a cousin match to a known Native American with documented tribal ancestry, one can’t tell via DNA if one’s Native American ancestor belonged to any particularly tribe.

There are not enough Native Americans who have tested and are in databases as the baseline, and those who have tested tend to be from Mexico or South America.

Paleogenomics allows for the testing of a few ancient samples.

In the US, tribal heritage is based on documentation. Since Warren cannot document her connection, outside of family lore, to the Cherokee nation, she should have stated right up front that she was not going to claim any particular tribal affiliation and that others likewise should not use DNA tests to claim any particular tribal affiliation.

But here again we see that our society is unable to discuss a highly technical subject (DNA and population group affiliation) because frankly most Americans either don’t care or simply are not educated enough.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:16:44pm

Hey, does anyone know if the Dotard tweeted about the DOW closing above 25,000 today, again?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:17:10pm
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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:21:04pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

Today on “Mall Ninja AF” we have a $1000 brass skull molle clip. It may be called Airsoft but you can still be the hardest penis doing it.

All that’s missing is the crossed thigh bones from a certain style popular in Germany 70+ years ago to get what they’re really wanting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:23:34pm

Just checking in. Damn: regarding Northam. He was unlikely to run nationally ever but damn nonetheless.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:24:01pm

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

Seems like only yesterday these folks were defending the Covington schoolboys’ blackface as “school spirit.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:24:47pm

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

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Gillespie also ran a racist campaign. We’ve also had George Allen. Northam deserves the criticism but the VA GOP can eat a bag of dicks.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:25:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:25:34pm

such a moron

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:26:08pm

Classy E. Erickson with the “dilates” abortion joke.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:27:04pm
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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:27:14pm

re: #85 Weaselone

Local paper went to the medical school library and pulled the yearbook - so unless that’s a plant, yeah, it’s legit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:27:18pm

re: #100 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:27:46pm

re: #100 jaunte

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Sure. I’d welcome Governor Fairfax and have Virginia be the first state with two African American governors. And Erick fuck off, You repeatedly defended Kavanagh. If Northam were anti abortion, you’d defend him and you know it, you Wanker.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:27:58pm
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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:30:03pm

re: #98 jaunte

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:31:03pm

Maybe Northam has some calendars from back then that will exonerate him?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:31:26pm

I’m very disappointed to hear this. Northam wasn’t my choice. I preferred Periello but I thought Northam was better than this and in fairness he did condemn the shit in Charlottesville but this was 1984. But I want to know why VMI thought this was acceptable too. Criticize Northam, he deserves it but there’s something wrong with VMI if this was socially acceptable into the mid 80’s.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:32:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:32:47pm

re: #111 jaunte

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Your party just nominated Stewart. Please STFU.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:32:56pm

Northam was under attack for a statement he made in regards to abortion.

That was why this photo with the blackface was dug up and made public today.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:33:54pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is something NK made up years ago. There is no wall dividing the countries

two things:

1. they don’t have a wall, they have demilitarized zone where you get shot if you enter it; and,

2. if there was a wall there, it’d more likely be used for keeping North Koreans in rather than keeping them out.

Oh, and bonus third thing:

Both sides want reunification, they just disagree on the terms of reunification.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:34:17pm

re: #113 freetoken

Northam was under attack for a statement he made in regards to abortion.

That was why this photo with the blackface was dug up and made public today.

I have no doubt at all that is the case. I’m okay with him resigning just like I was with Eric Schneiderman. Justin Fairfax will be a good governor.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:35:22pm
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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:36:49pm

re: #108 lawhawk

the difference is that liberals/progressives/Democrats/not-Republicans have learned to be embarrassed (to varying degrees) by racism. So for Republicans, it’s not so much attacking the racism, it’s really attacking the idea that you should be embarrassed by your past racism (whether said racism was intentional or not)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:37:21pm

I will say this. Northam has shown he’s not the same guy from 35 years ago through his actions and Corey Stewart was running a Confederate love song his entire time in public life here. Does it make these pictures right or acceptable? Hell fucking no but does it mean the Virginia Democratic Party can go tell the Virginia Republican Party to go fuck itself with a rusty pike, hell yes.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:37:49pm
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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:37:56pm

Erickson is quickly spewing fallacies:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:38:14pm

re: #117 KGxvi

the difference is that liberals/progressives/Democrats/not-Republicans have learned to be embarrassed (to varying degrees) by racism. So for Republicans, it’s not so much attacking the racism, it’s really attacking the idea that you should be embarrassed by your past racism (whether said racism was intentional or not)

If this was a Republican, we’d be hearing about how everyone is being way too sensitive. Basically worse things than what Dick Saslaw is saying.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:39:09pm

re: #119 jaunte

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Yep, I’d be fine with him being governor and seeing the same assholes who are crocodile tearing over this whine about Fairfax actually leading on efforts to stop our state celebrating Lee. Make our day, Virginia Republicans.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:39:21pm

re: #120 freetoken

I give you a few more tweets before he blocks you for exposing his dumbfuckery.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:39:52pm

re: #120 freetoken

Erickson is quickly spewing fallacies:

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Erickson’s a fucking lying sack of shit and a sexual assault apologist. He has no morals. He’s just a right wing piece of shit.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:40:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:41:42pm

re: #125 freetoken

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It’s all about partisan politics to that imbred shitbrain. As I said, go ahead and force Northam to resign. As I said, I’d be prouder of my state than I’ve ever been if we made our state teh first state to have two African-American governors. Much more proud than I’ve ever been that Lee was birthed here.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:41:52pm

This is why I think Democrats are going to come out with a great team for 2020. They know they’re on the same team. They might differ on some of the details and the proposals may differ, but their overall goals are the same.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:41:58pm

Virginia GOP suddenly eager to start pulling down Confederate statues oh wait.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:42:15pm

1984 wasn’t exactly the dark ages. Plus, in a med school yearbook? WTF

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:42:16pm

If Fairfax assumes the office, would he be able to seek re-election? Or does the no immediate re-election rule apply to him upon assuming the office?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:42:41pm

re: #127 lawhawk

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This is why I think Democrats are going to come out with a great team for 2020. They know they’re on the same team. They might differ on some of the details and the proposals may differ, but their overall goals are the same.

Paging Keegan Michael Key. He needs to play him. And yeah I love the spirit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:42:47pm

This whole shtick is the type of ratfucking Roger Stone would do.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:43:34pm

The editor of that yearbook must still be around.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:44:13pm

re: #130 KGxvi

If Fairfax assumes the office, would he be able to seek re-election? Or does the no immediate re-election rule apply to him upon assuming the office?

I’m not totally sure about that. We haven’t had a governor resign in years. But if he did have to step down for 2021, we also have a Dem AG that could run too. Plenty of good Va Dems in the stable which is why I’m not too worried about this in the long run. It sucks for Northam’s career but it’s not going to hinder the VA Dems IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:45:11pm

re: #129 Amory Blaine

1984 wasn’t exactly the dark ages. Plus, in a med school yearbook? WTF

Yeah my parents were married in ‘83. And as I said, it says a lot about VMI’s culture too. VMI is still one of the nation’s pre-eminent military academies. Also the alma mater and where Stonewall Jackson taught before the Civil War.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:45:35pm

re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹

It would be a strange self-own to get rid of Northam and get Fairfax instead, so it’s most likely real.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:46:00pm
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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:46:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:46:51pm

re: #136 jaunte

It would be a strange self-own to get rid of Northam and get Fairfax instead, so it’s most likely real.

Fairfax is more progressive too. Probably the most progressive person we’ve elected statewide.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:47:09pm

re: #133 jaunte

The editor of that yearbook must still be around.

Right. I want confirmation. As we all know, RWNJ are not known to lie and cheat!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:47:31pm

re: #138 freetoken

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Another conservative asshole with an agenda.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:48:02pm

re: #138 freetoken

Forget it, Jake. It’s Twittertown.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:48:47pm

re: #140 Amory Blaine

Right. I want confirmation. As we all know, RWNJ are not known to lie and cheat!

It’s interesting that this didn’t come out before. Not denying its authenticity but it’s interesting.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:49:11pm

re: #136 jaunte

It would be a strange self-own to get rid of Northam and get Fairfax instead, so it’s most likely real.

But it gets the attention off of Stone.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:49:35pm

re: #144 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s toast.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:50:28pm

re: #144 Joe Bacon 🌹

But it gets the attention off of Stone.

Schneidermann’s downfall was supposed to hurt the N.Y. investigations too.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:50:38pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Just checking in. Damn: regarding Northam. He was unlikely to run nationally ever but damn nonetheless.

I was wondering what you would have to say about it. You worked on his campaign a bit didn’t you? I guess nothing like this was ever mentioned before.

Should we do a 48 hours wait on this? You never know.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:52:32pm

re: #147 ObserverArt

I was wondering what you would have to say about it. You worked on his campaign a bit didn’t you? I guess nothing like this was ever mentioned before.

Should we do a 48 hours wait on this? You never know.

Yeah I did a little. I mostly worked on his primary opponent’s campaign but I liked Northam to campaign for him in the GE.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:55:10pm

Make no mistake though, this is because he’s unapologetically pro choice. It wouldn’t have happened otherwise. He pissed the wrong people off. It doesn’t make this right of course but I definitely want to know about the college experience of high ranking VA GOPers.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:55:11pm

Bold New GOP Initiative: Bigotry Is Disqualifying.
I look forward to their campaign against Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve King, let’s see, who else?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:55:48pm

“It’s not blackface. It’s blackout.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:56:07pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

It’s interesting that this didn’t come out before. Not denying its authenticity but it’s interesting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:56:23pm

re: #150 jaunte

Bold New GOP Initiative: Bigotry Is Disqualifying.
I look forward to their campaign against Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve King, let’s see, who else?

All of them Katie.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:57:14pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I would think that Gillespie a former RNC chair would have found this. Perriello didn’t have as much funds.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:57:59pm

re: #150 jaunte

Bold New GOP Initiative: Bigotry Is Disqualifying.
I look forward to their campaign against Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve King, let’s see, who else?

Making bigotry a disqualifier would take out a few percent of (D) elected officials and well over 50% of Republican elected officials.

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gwangung  Feb 1, 2019 • 2:59:58pm

re: #155 EPR-radar

Making bigotry a disqualifier would take out a few percent of (D) elected officials and well over 50% of Republican elected officials.

Acceptable.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:00:38pm

re: #155 EPR-radar

Making bigotry a disqualifier would take out a few percent of (D) elected officials and well over 50% of Republican elected officials.

Good!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:00:40pm

Has Steve King chimed in yet?

I’m sure he’d be his expressing his disgust…at Democrats!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:03:37pm

I’m sure Corey Stewart will have something to say that will remind us all why the VA GOP is rotten.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:07:46pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:10:31pm

re: #150 jaunte

Bold New GOP Initiative: Bigotry Is Disqualifying.
I look forward to their campaign against Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Steve King, let’s see, who else?

this
over and over and over and…..

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:12:00pm

re: #160 teleskiguy

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Well he was coming off just barely beating Stewart. So may well be not far off.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:15:03pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

It’s interesting that this didn’t come out before. Not denying its authenticity but it’s interesting.

i have two questions (so far)

- is northam the guy in blackface or kkk in that photo?
- did he put the picture on his page (or have a say) or did an editor do it?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:16:54pm

Seeing the bots once again flooding Twitter with the Democrats = KKK crap

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:17:40pm

re: #163 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

i have two questions (so far)

- is northam the guy in blackface or kkk in that photo?
- did he put the picture on his page (or have a say) or did an editor do it?

Good questions. Can’t say for sure.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:18:18pm

re: #164 Joe Bacon 🌹

Seeing the bots once again flooding Twitter with the Democrats = KKK crap

All the while the last VA GOP candidate repeatedly defended the CSA.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:18:24pm

The hypocrisy of the GOP is one of the most infuriating things about them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:19:32pm

re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg

The hypocrisy of the GOP is one of the most infuriating things about them.

Totally.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:20:07pm

He should quit now, like Al Franken did. There’s no recovering from this and dragging it out only hurts Democrats and fuels GOP hypocrisy.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:21:46pm

re: #160 teleskiguy

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Pretty much. The VA GOP’s had no problem with shit through the last 30 years, so publishing that photo wouldn’t have disqualified Northam so much as put their own racism in stark contrast. Guys who still have Dixie Swastikas on their office walls going “Blackface is unacceptable” would have set off bullshit detectors in Guam.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:22:06pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

He should quit now, like Al Franken did. There’s no recovering from this and dragging it out only hurts Democrats and fuels GOP hypocrisy makes Democrats fret.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:22:58pm
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Old Liberal  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:24:31pm

re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg

The hypocrisy of the GOP is one of the most infuriating things about them.

Except generally they think this stuff is ok so they resent being called out and therefore demand that what’s good for one is necessary for the other. They aren’t hypocrite on this one thing because they don’t believe this shit is wrong for anyone. Which is far worse than being hypocritical. Their crime here is racism and bigotry. Disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:24:35pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

He should quit now, like Al Franken did. There’s no recovering from this and dragging it out only hurts Democrats and fuels GOP hypocrisy.

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He should.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:24:52pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

He should quit now, like Al Franken did. There’s no recovering from this and dragging it out only hurts Democrats and fuels GOP hypocrisy.

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No, just no. I’m not up for another sacrifice on the altar of “But The Party…”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:25:08pm

CBS does another Trump asskissing letting him say that Pelosi is allowing people to be killed because he ain’t got his wall…

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:27:01pm

Instagram

First tracks on High Rustler. A rite of passage since 1938.
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📷: @alta_historical_society / Alan Engen Ski History Museum
#AltaMagic #tbt

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Kilroy was here  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:29:03pm

He should have said he was a Republican at the time..

/s

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:29:34pm

I know I’ve run into this poem before but it remains a hoot.

Pronounce correctly every word - speak better native english speakes

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it’s written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation’s OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Fe0ffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation (think of Psyche!)
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won’t it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It’s a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough,
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!

English Pronunciation by G. Nolst Trenité

“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.”
James D. Nicoll:

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Teddy's Person  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:30:41pm

RE: Gov. Northam

If he’s in blackface, he needs to resign.

Blackface is not simply offensive. Historically, it was a tool of oppression. Antebellum minstrel shows (more popular in the north than south) typically included a plantation vignette where slaves were depicted as happy and well cared for by their owners. This was all part of a new justification of slavery (a backlash to radical abolitionists like David Walker who argued that slavery should end by violence if necessary and William Lloyd Garrison who called slavery a national sin). This new justification of slavery argued that slavery was a positive good for black slaves (they would be savages in Africa if not for slavery) as opposed to a necessary evil (which is how people like Jefferson talked about slavery). Benevolent slave owners cared for their slaves like family. Many slave owners’ journals and diaries include the phrase, “my family, white and black.” After the Civil War, blackface was used to perpetuate the stereotypes that African Americans were unintelligent and lazy and therefore unable to exercise their rights as citizens (particularly their right to vote). So, blackface is not some quaint tradition that is now objectionable by today’s standards. It represents all the justifications Americans used to enslave people based on the color of their skin.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:32:31pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

No, just no. I’m not up for another sacrifice on the altar of “But The Party…”

Two distinctly different sets of of responsibility the parties are held to. It’s disgusting. And we always lose. Always.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:36:44pm

re: #63 jaunte

The Virginia conservatives who are shocked at white people appearing in blackface have two black presidential candidates to vote for, if they’re truly penitent.

They aren’t though. If he was a Republican, they would be reflexively defending him, and he wouldn’t resign.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:36:55pm

re: #181 MsJ

Two distinctly different sets of of responsibility the parties are held to. It’s disgusting. And we always lose. Always.

Being the adults in the room is a clear-cut political disadvantage for Democrats in the US, probably a 5-10 point nationwide hit.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:39:22pm

re: #182 NO SMOCKING GUN!

They aren’t though. If he was a Republican, they would be reflexively defending him, and he wouldn’t resign.

And they’re not saying anything other than “He should resign.” They’re not suddenly okay with tearing down statutes of Confederate “heroes,” they’re not pulling down their Dixie Swastikas, and nobody who has faced similar revelations in the past is moving to leave office as an example. They’re all just saying “He should resign!” and expecting the VA DNC to do the heavy-lifting of hounding him out of office.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:40:10pm

re: #120 freetoken

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:41:25pm

re: #138 freetoken

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Looks rather botlike.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:42:17pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:42:34pm

re: #76 Belafon

So, serious question, which I know gets asked every time: How far back in someones life are we going to hold them accountable for?

Also, though, just laugh at the GOP. They’re still actively doing things that Democrats gave up a long time ago.

Northam knew this was in his past, and he was an adult when he did it. He should have owned up to it before running for Governor and made serious mea culpas. Now he’s just screwed.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:45:35pm

re: #187 Joe Bacon 🌹

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And defended Kavanagh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:46:22pm

re: #188 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Northam knew this was in his past, and he was an adult when he did it. He should have owned up to it before running for Governor and made serious mea culpas. Now he’s just screwed.

He was in his mid 20’s. I want to know wtf at VMI made this acceptable.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:46:22pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:48:21pm

I hate that we’re going to have a Democrat resign and a Republican stay as a Supreme Court justice and a flat out White Supremacist stay as representative of Iowa, but that’s how it works right now. They all three should go.

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Old Liberal  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:48:28pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

Being the adults in the room is a clear-cut political disadvantage for Democrats in the US, probably a 5-10 point nationwide hit.

Doing the right thing is always the hard thing. Doing the right thing is always the costly thing. The hope is that the majority will see who does the right thing every time and who never does the right thing and over time support the right thing. The only alternative is to decide these things don’t really matter, and lose our soul as a nation.

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:50:28pm

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

I thought that her DNA results indicated that she had Native American heritage. It’s really not an issue and we should let her move on. Since I’ve moved to this country, I’ve met Whites and Blacks who tell me that they have Native American ancestry. Seems like it’s just something that quite a few people believe.

According to that PBS documentary (pbs.org) about Indian influence in rock music… in slave states runaway slaves sometimes hid in tribes and passed for native, while in non-slave states indians would sometimes pass for black. So a few generations on, people might honestly believe they had an ancestor who was one when it was really the other. (then there’s people like Jimi Hendrix or Charlie Patton, who had both).

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:50:31pm
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ipsos  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:51:40pm

re: #188 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I was in high school in 1984. I cannot imagine any circumstance in which I’d have posed in blackface or a KKK hood. Nor can I imagine my (northern, suburban, heavily Jewish) school administration would have allowed that to be printed in the yearbook.

Nor can I imagine being a candidate for public office in the 21st century if that HAD been in my background.

I think Northam should go.

BUT… I also think Brett Kavanaugh’s high school years should have been equally disqualifying.

And I don’t think any of this has (or should have) any bearing on the abortion bill for which the “gotcha” release of the yearbook page was apparently meant as retribution.

And I think an adult ought to be able to hold all these views at once, even in our us-or-them headline society.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:51:43pm

re: #195 Belafon

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And the media will both sides it.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:52:00pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:52:27pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

He was in his mid 20’s. I want to know wtf at VMI made this acceptable.

It has never been acceptable, but it was 1984.

We have Catholic boys at a basketball game from a few years ago.

We’ve seen other blackface example between 1984 and now.

I bet you can go to a party at a university somewhere in America tonight and see it. We know it many times comes around during Halloween.

Remember Megyn Kelly?

(No excuses…just pointing out sadly it hasn’t gone away)

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55Fender1  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:52:51pm

Factose intolerant :)

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:53:29pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

He was in his mid 20’s. I want to know wtf at VMI made this acceptable.

VMI is what made it acceptable. VMI should have been razed after the war and then given the Arlington treatment.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:53:29pm

re: #199 ObserverArt

It has never been acceptable, but it was 1984.

We have Catholic boys at a basketball game from a few years ago.

We’ve seen other blackface example between 1984 and now.

I bet you can go to a party at a university somewhere in America tonight and see it. We know it many times comes around during Halloween.

Remember Megyn Kelly?

(No excuses…just pointing out sadly it hasn’t gone away)

True and VMI is Stonewall Jackson’s school too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:54:06pm

re: #201 William Lewis

VMI is what made it acceptable. VMI should have been razed after the war and then given the Arlington treatment.

Hard to argue with that.

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mmmirele  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:54:46pm

So I laid down to take a nap, woke up and discovered that Gov. Ralph Northam had appeared in a medical school yearbook picture where there’s one man in blackface and another in a KKK robe. The first thing that went through my head was, “Oh, it was 35 years ago, why is this being dragged out?” Then I remembered what WE did in Austin at least 35 years ago.

I remember a time in the early 1980s when the KKK came to Austin to have a rally at the state capitol. Now, the cops would have rather us stay away, but naaaah. So there were six pathetic Klansmen, hundreds of cops and thousands of UT Austin students and locals on hand to heckle away.

My point is that even in the early 1980s, even in Texas, even at one of the flagship universities* of Texas, we knew that the KKK was bad news. It’s insane to think that Ralph Northam was so incredibly privileged and isolated that he didn’t know this was a problem.

*grudgingly allowing Texas A&M its pride of place.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:56:08pm

re: #200 55Fender1

Greetings hatchling. And you’re very green, even set up a brand new Twitter account.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:56:41pm

re: #193 Old Liberal

Doing the right thing is always the hard thing. Doing the right thing is always the costly thing. The hope is that the majority will see who does the right thing every time and who never does the right thing and over time support the right thing. The only alternative is to decide these things don’t really matter, and lose our soul as a nation.

I agree that the Democrats need to have standards. I just wish the media and electorate would view this as a net positive rather than treating it like a political body odor curse.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:57:48pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

He was in his mid 20’s. I want to know wtf at VMI made this acceptable.

re: #201 William Lewis

VMI is what made it acceptable. VMI should have been razed after the war and then given the Arlington treatment.

re: #202 HappyWarrior

True and VMI is Stonewall Jackson’s school too.

You all know this wasn’t at VMI, right?

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:58:08pm

re: #200 55Fender1

Factose intolerant :)

Howdy new member.

Like the nickname. Are you a guit picker?

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bd(that picture is a liar!)  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:58:37pm

Evening Lizards! Happy weekend.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:58:42pm

re: #204 mmmirele

Around that time, the Klan tried to have a March in Abilene, but it got canceled when people found out about it.

At the same time, Virginia has made far more progress since then. Do you think this would cause problems for Abbott?

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Old Liberal  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:59:23pm

re: #206 EPR-radar

I agree that the Democrats need to have standards. I just wish the media and electorate would view this as a net positive rather than treating it like a political body odor curse.

Yep. We’redealing with a ton of morons, opportunists and grifters. Sucks bigly

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:59:24pm

re: #207 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You all know this wasn’t at VMI, right?

Oops sorry. East Virginia Medical School. My bad.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 3:59:52pm

I find myself in that position I so often see others in, trying to explain to folks who don’t live in my state about the way my state was in the “recent” past. But I think folks need to understand that “blue” or at least “purple” VA is really still an illusion, the shift in VA politics only really taking place in the last 2 decades and only in the half of the state immediately adjacent to D.C. You travel to the southern half of the state and you’re still going to find folks who think Dr King was a “troublemaker” and think the Civil Rights Era a travesty because the South was a land of brotherly love before it.

In 1984, this shit was not only acceptable, but anybody who took offense to it would have (at best) been told to “lighten up.” In 1984, if you suggested tearing down a Confederate statute, you’d have (at best) been written off as some Birkenstock-wearing, granola-chewing Berkeley wannabe who didn’t understand “our heritage.” The past truly was a whole different country, people did things differently back then.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:00:53pm

re: #210 Belafon

Around that time, the Klan tried to have a March in Abilene, but it got canceled when people found out about it.

At the same time, Virginia has made far more progress since then. Do you think this would cause problems for Abbott?

In the time since, we did elect an African American governor and Northam’s own Lt Governor is black as well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:01:55pm

re: #200 55Fender1

Factose intolerant :)

I am so stealing this.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:01:57pm

re: #207 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You all know this wasn’t at VMI, right?

Apparently not? I noted his comment on VMI and I let go with my long standing opinion on that place.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:02:36pm

re: #213 Targetpractice

I find myself in that position I so often see others in, trying to explain to folks who don’t live in my state about the way my state was in the “recent” past. But I think folks need to understand that “blue” or at least “purple” VA is really still an illusion, the shift in VA politics only really taking place in the last 2 decades and only in the half of the state immediately adjacent to D.C. You travel to the southern half of the state and you’re still going to find folks who think Dr King was a “troublemaker” and think the Civil Rights Era a travesty because the South was a land of brotherly love before it.

In 1984, this shit was not only acceptable, but anybody who took offense to it would have (at best) been told to “lighten up.” In 1984, if you suggested tearing down a Confederate statute, you’d have (at best) been written off as some Birkenstock-wearing, granola-chewing Berkeley wannabe who didn’t understand “our heritage.” The past truly was a whole different country, people did things differently back then.

That’s very true. My NoVa bias is showing in why I’m shocked but considering we had started the Lee-Jackson stuff by then and a decade after 1984 elected Allen governor.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:03:09pm

re: #216 William Lewis

Apparently not? I noted his comment on VMI and I let go with my long standing opinion on that place.

It’s my fault. I assumed he got his medical degree there.

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Old Liberal  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:05:54pm

Sadly, I learned a long time ago that honesty is rarely the best policy but it is certainly always the most expensive policy. I was honest anyway and paid a huge price throughout my life. That’s just how it is here on planet earth.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:06:23pm

I guess I’ll weigh in on Northam, the political crisis du jour. The moral and ethical thing to do is for him to step aside. I thought Al Franken did the right thing. You want to be morally and ethically better than your political opponents? You step aside when shit like this comes out, no matter how hard it may be. Besides, if Northam doesn’t step aside this shit will deflect, distract, and ultimately derail his agenda as governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

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Weaselone  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:07:25pm

Looks like he’s confirmed it’s him. He needs to resign.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:08:36pm

re: #220 teleskiguy

I guess I’ll weigh in on Northam, the political crisis du jour. The moral and ethical thing to do is for him to step aside. I thought Al Franken did the right thing. You want to be morally and ethically better than your political opponents? You step aside when shit like this comes out, no matter how hard it may be. Besides, if Northam doesn’t step aside this shit will deflect, distract, and ultimately derail his agenda as governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Pains me to say it since I like and voted for the man but yes this.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:08:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:08:54pm

re: #223 jaunte

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Boom

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Skip Intro  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:09:06pm

Resign, Hell! Switch parties to the GOP and all of this will disappear overnight.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:10:14pm

re: #225 Skip Intro

Resign, Hell! Switch parties to the GOP and all of this will disappear overnight.

Hear hear!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:10:39pm

re: #225 Skip Intro

Resign, Hell! Switch parties to the GOP and all of this will disappear overnight.

It’s funny you say that since he was supporting GOP candidates for President as recently as 2004. That wasn’t why I preferred Periello tho:

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:11:24pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:14:13pm

re: #91 freetoken

It did.

The problem is that she stated that she believed (based on her family lore) that her ancestor was Cherokee.

This got all the issues about being a formal tribe member stirred up.

Then the malicious hate-right pushed this problem to abuse Warren, with Trump leading the pack.

The Cherokee mostly reiterated that a few genes to do not a tribe member make. Not sure anyone was very hostile about it. For that matter, any First Nations group is about as likely to have one single opinion as are the Irish.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:14:24pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

No, just no. I’m not up for another sacrifice on the altar of “But The Party…”

If Franken had remained we might not have taken the House, voters chose Democrats in part because we have higher standards. There’s no reason to protect these assholes who knew they had horrible skeletons in their closet but ran anyway, and fairness is a luxury we can’t afford. There’s nothing inherently valuable about defending a handful of specific white men who should have known better, allowing them to remain as distractions & false equivalence magnets only helps Republicans.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:15:15pm

re: #230 goddamnedfrank

If Franken had remained we might not have taken the House, voters chose Democrats in part because we have higher standards. There’s no reason to protect these assholes who knew they had horrible skeletons in their closet but ran anyway, and fairness is a luxury we can’t afford. There’s nothing inherently valuable about defending a handful of specific white men who should have known better, allowing them to remain as distractions & false equivalence magnets only helps Republicans.

Would we be so quick to take this attitude if forcing him out of office meant a Republican replaced him?

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:17:45pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

Would we be so quick to take this attitude if forcing him out of office meant a Republican replaced him?

As hard as it may be, the right thing to do is to take this attitude, yes. As goddamnedfrank noted, we have higher standards, and we should uphold those standards to the highest degree.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:19:12pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

As hard as it may be, the right thing to do is to take this attitude, yes. As goddamnedfrank noted, we have higher standards, and we should uphold those standards to the highest degree.

And if something embarrassing from Fairfax’s own history should come to light?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:21:08pm

re: #233 Targetpractice

And if something embarrassing from Fairfax’s own history should come to light?

It’s quaint to use the word “embarrassing” when referring to politics. That’s so 2015.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:21:42pm

re: #233 Targetpractice

And if something embarrassing from Fairfax’s own history should come to light?

Will we catch him in blackface?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:21:48pm

I’m not playing this bullshit “what if” game. The specifics here are bad enough that there’s no Febreezing this turd with hypotheticals.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:22:13pm

re: #234 Decatur Deb

It’s quaint to use the word “embarrassing” when referring to politics. That’s so 2015.

I might use “disqualifying,” but we learned last year that being an accused rapist isn’t enough to keep you off the SCOTUS bench.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:22:41pm

re: #233 Targetpractice

And if something embarrassing from Fairfax’s own history should come to light?

On down the line, even if it means a Republican is appointed governor, as painful as it sounds. That’s just this lowly ski bum’s opinion.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:24:44pm

‘Course a lot of Southern administrations have a little Klan in the woodpile.

Take my Chief of Police…please.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:26:59pm

re: #239 Decatur Deb

There’s a house near the high school here in town that has a Confederate flag flying on their front porch. In the mountains of Colorado.

*shudder*

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:27:25pm

re: #235 Belafon

Will we catch him in blackface?

I’m thinking it best I take a short break, because I’m in danger of going down a rabbit hole I really don’t want to descend into. I’d rather not offend others by pointing out how one-sided all this seems.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:27:50pm

By all means, point out the double standard. It’s real as fuck and we should slam the media and Republicans with it every chance we get, but also point out that the difference in QC is why our product is better, because we root out our bad apples instead of tolerating them.

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mmmirele  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:27:54pm

re: #210 Belafon

Around that time, the Klan tried to have a March in Abilene, but it got canceled when people found out about it.

At the same time, Virginia has made far more progress since then. Do you think this would cause problems for Abbott?

Dunno. I think Austin has backslidden, in fact. From two weeks ago:

AUSTIN (KXAN) — A gay couple in Austin say they were the target of a homophobic slur, then attacked in downtown Austin in the early hours of Saturday morning. Both were hospitalized for their injuries.

kxan.com

It’s now gotten to where the local community has started up a “gayborhood watch.” This is pretty upsetting to me; my co-op in the 1980s was a haven for gay college students and there wasn’t a need for a neighborhood watch in Austin. (There was in Houston in the Montrose, which made that neighborhood very safe.)

pinknews.co.uk

Again, I’ll say it, I think Austin has backslidden.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:28:38pm

Just in case nobody’s posted this, for folks who forgot the Cold War. Click through and read the thread.

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TedStriker  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:29:18pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

As hard as it may be, the right thing to do is to take this attitude, yes. As goddamnedfrank noted, we have higher standards, and we should uphold those standards to the highest degree.

FTFY for accuracy…

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:29:50pm

re: #241 Targetpractice

I’m thinking it best I take a short break, because I’m in danger of going down a rabbit hole I really don’t want to descend into. I’d rather not offend others by pointing out how one-sided all this seems.

We all know it’s one sided. We know it’s unfair that he will have to resign while Steve King is still a representative and an active white supremacist and kavanaugh is on the bench even though he assaulted someone.

I also pay my taxes even though I know of Donald Trump.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:30:26pm

re: #246 Belafon

We all know it’s one sided. We know it’s unfair that he will have to resign while Steve King is still a representative and an active white supremacist and kavanaugh is on the bench even though he assaulted someone.

I also pay my taxes even though I know of Donald Trump.

I wasn’t speaking politically, I was speaking racially. And that’s as far as I’m willing to go.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:32:26pm

A fart in the wind.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:32:43pm

re: #246 Belafon

We all know it’s one sided. We know it’s unfair that he will have to resign while Steve King is still a representative and an active white supremacist and kavanaugh is on the bench even though he assaulted someone.

I also pay my taxes even though I know of Donald Trump.

Easy fix. If the yearbook is real and he declines to resign, he should be asked to change parties.

IOKIYAR.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:33:23pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

A fart in the wind.

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Steve Schmidt: “I gave up that sweet MSNBC gig for THIS?!?”

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:34:12pm

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Easy fix. If the yearbook is real and he declines to resign, he should be asked to change parties.

IOKIYAR.

No. It’s better that he resign and be replaced by the Lt. Gov. than to switch parties and possibly take that party switch seriously as a born-again race realist or the like.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:34:41pm

re: #250 Blind Frog Belly White

Steve Schmidt: “I gave up that sweet MSNBC gig for THIS?!?”

Schmidt gets paid either way, although perhaps not for very long.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:34:45pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

A fart in the wind.

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Perhaps Trump has given billionaires a bad name.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:36:30pm

re: #253 Decatur Deb

Perhaps Trump has given billionaires a bad name.

I nominate this for best billionaire-related tweet this quarter.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:37:08pm

re: #251 EPR-radar

No. It’s better that he resign and be replaced by the Lt. Gov. than to switch parties and possibly take that party switch seriously as a born-again race realist or the like.

That’s better, but resigning is his call. If he stays, let him put on GOP-face. (Virginians—can you recall a Gov?)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:37:15pm

re: #253 Decatur Deb

Perhaps Trump has given billionaires a bad name.

To be fair, it’s not like Schultz has done much to rehabilitate that name.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:37:37pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

A fart in the wind.

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Hahahhaha.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:37:49pm

re: #255 Decatur Deb

That’s better, but resigning is his call. If he stays, let him put on GOP-face. (Virginians—can you recall a Gov?)

No we cannot.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:38:50pm

re: #256 Blind Frog Belly White

To be fair, it’s not like Schultz has done much to rehabilitate that name.

I mean making your campaign “Hey people I’m a rich guy complaining about people wanting better health care and affordable education” isn’t a winner usually. At least Trump and Perot had the sense to make their pet issue something that could have some mainstream appeal.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:39:36pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

A fart in the wind.

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bd(that picture is a liar!)  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:39:38pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

A fart in the wind.

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[schultz] NO ONE POLLS AS EQUALLY AMONGST ANY AND ALL PARTY AFFILIATED VOTERS AS ME [/schultz]

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:40:07pm

re: #255 Decatur Deb

That’s better, but resigning is his call. If he stays, let him put on GOP-face. (Virginians—can you recall a Gov?)

It’s…complicated. Short answer is “No,” slightly longer answer is “Maybe, it’s never been tested.”

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Kilroy was here  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:40:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:41:46pm

At first I thought the Northam pic was from high school, which would be one thing. A REALLY BAD thing, but still.

But MED SCHOOL? Mid-20s, in the mid-80s?

I think we’re better off without him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:43:42pm

Sorry, I’m just not prepared to call for someones resignation for wearing a blackface, or clan robes (don’t think we have confirmation on which at this time) costume in 1984 Virginia.
Doing one stupendously stupid thing 35 years ago shouldn’t necessarily ruin a person.

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ipsos  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:45:38pm

Who are the 4% who DO approve of Schultz?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:45:51pm

re: #266 ipsos

Who are the 4% who DO approve of Schultz?

People who drink Starbucks.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:45:58pm

re: #264 Blind Frog Belly White

At first I thought the Northam pic was from high school, which would be one thing. A REALLY BAD thing, but still.

But MED SCHOOL? Mid-20s, in the mid-80s?

I think we’re better off without him.

Just as easy to kiss him off after the 24-hr rule. There could be some way to explain this, and it would have to be a masterpiece of ‘splainin. Certainly worth the wait.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:46:28pm

re: #266 ipsos

Who are the 4% who DO approve of Schultz?

Whoever they are, they’re way below the 42% of “independents” he believes is his pathway to serving a serious challenge to the “duopoly.”

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:46:38pm

re: #266 ipsos

Billionaires.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:47:19pm

re: #266 ipsos

Who are the 4% who DO approve of Schultz?

NeverTrump Conservatives? Or maybe the kind of people who agree with every single policy proposal the Dems support but still JUST KNOW that we’re ‘too extreme’.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:48:48pm

re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White

NeverTrump Conservatives? Or maybe the kind of people who agree with every single policy proposal the Dems support but still JUST KNOW that we’re ‘too extreme’.

If Trump can have “Deplorables”, Schultz can have “Inexplicables”.

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ipsos  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:51:56pm

re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White

NeverTrump Conservatives? Or maybe the kind of people who agree with every single policy proposal the Dems support but still JUST KNOW that we’re ‘too extreme’.

Of my (unrepresentative) sample of several thousand FB friends, the only one who’s said anything about Schultz that’s not 100% negative is one older white fella from Ohio who proclaims himself an “independent” but is pretty reliably pro-Republican and always pro-authoritarian, if vaguely anti-Trump at least.

Is this guy actually going to vote for Schultz? I highly doubt it.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:52:34pm

re: #263 Kilroy was here

If you need a laugh…

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Damnit, I was just going to post that! :)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:53:11pm

Trump’s going to butt in with a stupid nickname for Northam I just know it.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:54:09pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Trump’s going to butt in with a stupid nickname for Northam I just know it.

Of course, he’s going to jump in on the dogpile before it becomes too late to claim he had some small part in claiming another GOP scalp.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:54:46pm

re: #276 Targetpractice

Of course, he’s going to jump in on the dogpile before it becomes too late to claim he had some small part in claiming another GOP scalp.

Yep.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:56:13pm

Northrop has validated and apologized for the yearbook photo, per WaPo.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:56:44pm

re: #266 ipsos

Who are the 4% who DO approve of Schultz?

The rest of the Billionaires Against Fair Taxes Party?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 4:59:23pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:00:49pm

re: #279 William Lewis

The rest of the Billionaires Against Fair Taxes Party?

That 4% number shows how utterly dependent the GOP is on its identity politics of various bigoted resentments for votes. An agenda of nothing but tax cuts for the rich is dead on arrival, even in the GOP.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:00:58pm

re: #278 Decatur Deb

Northrop has validated and apologized for the yearbook photo, per WaPo.

Gonna be a lot of conflicted Virginia Republicans mulling Northrop’s racist stunt while driving down Monument Ave. lamenting the Arthur Ashe monument.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:04:47pm

re: #280 goddamnedfrank

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Chris maybe you forgot his opponent’s campaign. It was fucking racist as shit but go on shit on Kamala for this because clearly she knew about it beforehand. // This shit is fucking ridiculous.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:05:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:05:47pm

re: #282 Barefoot Grin

Gonna be a lot of conflicted Virginia Republicans mulling Northrop’s racist stunt while driving down Monument Ave. lamenting the Arthur Ashe monument.

Probably a bunch of them upset that Lt. Governor Fairfax didn’t respect St. Robert of Lee too. The right has no room at all to lecture about this. They literally just nominated Corey Stewart last year.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:07:19pm

re: #282 Barefoot Grin

Gonna be a lot of conflicted Virginia Republicans mulling Northrop’s racist stunt while driving down Monument Ave. lamenting the Arthur Ashe monument.

Not at all. Nothing done by any Republican ever since the dawn of time has been racist, according to Republicans.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:09:02pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:11:30pm

hmm

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A Three Hour Tour  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:11:57pm

re: #62 Sir John Barron

Who would do that even in 1984? And in a yearbook? Not the blackface per se, but the KKK robe?

OK, I grew up in Southeastern Virginia and graduated high school in 1984. My freshman year, in the 1981 yearbook, on the organizational page for the Christian student organization, Young Life, there is a two -page spread of its 1980 Halloween party, in which one student can be prominently seen wearing a Klan hood and robe.

My high school opened in 1968 as an integrated school. Other schools in our district didn’t integrate until ca. 1972. I started school in 1972 in a freshly integrated school. I, and a number of my friends from my grandparents’ neighborhoods were assigned a black teacher. My friends’ parents pitched a fit over their first graders being taught by a black teacher and they were removed from my class. My parents insisted that I stayed where I was assigned. Now, my paternal grandparents were racist as hell. I grew up hearing them lamenting the passage of Jim Crow. Dad shared some of his parents’ racism and belonged to a whites-only golf club that was forced to integrate in 1987. When it was his privileged golf course being brought into the Civil Rights Era, THAT was a step too far for him.

My point: these displays of racism weren’t as uncommon as one would think in the eighties, especially among a certain segment of suburban white Virginians.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:11:59pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:12:39pm

re: #282 Barefoot Grin

Gonna be a lot of conflicted Virginia Republicans mulling Northrop’s racist stunt while driving down Monument Ave. lamenting the Arthur Ashe monument.

Nah, this won’t cause any of them a moment of contemplation. They’ll serve up another dyed-in-the-wool racist next election who talks about “our heritage” and laments the tearing down of Confederate statutes, and see absolutely nothing wrong with it…because it still sells everywhere south of Fairfax.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:17:45pm

re: #291 Targetpractice

Nah, this won’t cause any of them a moment of contemplation. They’ll serve up another dyed-in-the-wool racist next election who talks about “our heritage” and laments the tearing down of Confederate statutes, and see absolutely nothing wrong with it…because it still sells everywhere south of Fairfax.

It really does. And this gets me at a memory when I was at GMU which is in Fairfax coincidentally enough. I was driving downstate to a VA Dem function in Richmond. We had a couple out of staters in our group and I don’t think these kids had ever been in what George Allen famously called “the real Virginia.” They were shocked to see CSA flags and all that. It was definitely culture shock for them. And I remember a couple years before that when I posted on a forum that had both lefties and righties on it, one of the righties was from downstate and I definitely think he saw me as a Yankee intruder due to my NoVa residency and being the grandson of transplants. He was shocker a Lincoln was evil and the South was right type. He would call then candidate Obama “boy.”

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retired cynic  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:19:07pm

Stonekettle strikes again!

stonekettle.com

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:20:40pm

Cool cool cool.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:32:48pm

While we’re talking about Northam, I read what he’d said that set all the wingnuts off earlier in the week, and I gotta say their reaction makes it utterly clear that they have ZERO empathy for parents, or indeed for the nonviable fetus Northam was talking about.

Here’s what he said:

“[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

So, in their zeal to require birth under any and all circumstances, they would require the doctors to keep the nonviable fetus “alive” for as long as possible by whatever means, no matter how much pain that might inflict, on the baby or the family, no matter how futile it would ultimately be.

Northam’s a pediatric neurosurgeon, so I’m guessing he’s seen his share of babies born with no chance of surviving, but not dead yet. It happens, and since forever, they’ve been kept comfortable till they inevitably die. That’s clearly what Northam’s talking about.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:34:44pm

re: #295 Blind Frog Belly White

While we’re talking about Northam, I read what he’d said that set all the wingnuts off earlier in the week, and I gotta say their reaction makes it utterly clear that they have ZERO empathy for parents, or indeed for the nonviable fetus Northam was talking about.

Here’s what he said:

So, in their zeal to require birth under any and all circumstances, they would require the doctors to keep the nonviable fetus “alive” for as long as possible by whatever means, no matter how much pain that might inflict, on the baby or the family, no matter how futile it would ultimately be.

Northam’s a pediatric neurosurgeon, so I’m guessing he’s seen his share of babies born with no chance of surviving, but not dead yet. It happens, and since forever, they’ve been kept comfortable till they inevitably die. That’s clearly what Northam’s talking about.

He was right about that. And yeah he’s seen his fair share of pain both as a doctor during Desert Storm and as a surgeon at a children’s hospital. He’s not a bad man by any means.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:38:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:41:49pm

re: #297 Blind Frog Belly White

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Pretty much. They’re going to want to use this to go Aha! Seeeeeeeee. But it’s just gonna be another Schneidermann. Fairfax if Northam does resign is going to have his work cut out for him though. This is his first elected position. Northam in contrast went from being in the State Senate to being Lt Governor. and then Governor.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:42:35pm

re: #297 Blind Frog Belly White

The VA GOP can go fuck itself with rusty farm implements. They have absolutely no business commenting on anyone else’s racism.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:42:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:43:45pm

re: #300 MsJ

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I’ll raise you King and point out the Florida Secretary of State. as well.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:44:32pm

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

It takes a doin’ to vanish $150 million. I give props.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:44:59pm

VA GOP: “NORTHAM NEEDS TO RESIGN FOR BEING A RACIST! OR ELSE THE DEMS ARE JUST AS RACIST!”

DNC: “DON’T TELL US WHAT TO DO! Oh yeah, and Northam, you need to resign for the good of the party.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:46:16pm

And I just got an email from Democracy for America asking to sign a petition to ask Northam to resign. Man they’re defending him really hard huh Erickson!

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:47:10pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

It takes a doin’ to vanish $150 million. I give props.

In large part money appears and disappears at the whim of bankers, and by trying to get in on that sweet, sweet gig, the cryptocurrency clowns are in danger of giving the game away.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:47:42pm
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retired cynic  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:48:50pm

Nancy LeTourneau has an interesting article connected the spiraling decline of cable TV to its effect on political advertising, as that is what is the driver of big money in politics.

A Tech Story With Major Political Ramifications

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:48:52pm

re: #303 Targetpractice

VA GOP: “NORTHAM NEEDS TO RESIGN FOR BEING A RACIST! OR ELSE THE DEMS ARE JUST AS RACIST!”

DNC: “DON’T TELL US WHAT TO DO! Oh yeah, and Northam, you need to resign for the good of the party.”

The DNC doesn’t have much of a choice here. The media is going to tilt 100.000% against the Democrats and Northam if he tries to hang on. It sucks that it isn’t that way for Republicans, but it’s a fact of life.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:49:10pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

It takes a doin’ to vanish $150 million. I give props.

You’d think so, but all it took was one lazy and/or unimaginative asshole to design a system with a single point of failure.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:50:49pm

re: #308 EPR-radar

The DNC doesn’t have much of a choice here. The media is going to tilt 100.000% against the Democrats and Northam if he tries to hang on. It sucks that it isn’t that way for Republicans, but it’s a fact of life.

Are we holding ourselves to our standards? Or the media’s?

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:53:56pm

Cryptocurrency speculators losing a quarter billion? Psh. Charles Keating alone vanished $2 billion with his savings-and-loan bank. The eighties. Good times.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:55:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:59:10pm

re: #312 jaunte

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Sounds good to me. And yes I want to know why we should honor a man who put captured black Union men into slavery. We only get the white side of history when it comes to Lee’s story and I’m sad to say that for a while I bought the Lee mythos. The Lee the reluctant slaveowner, Lee the reluctant secessionist, Lee the hero not Lee who was in fact a brutal slave owner, Lee who could have followed George Thomas and thousands of other Virginians’ lead (Virginia of all the CSA states sent the most Union volunteers, and then there was Lee who as I said forced captured black Union men into slavery.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2019 • 5:59:49pm

re: #307 retired cynic

Nancy LeTourneau has an interesting article connected the spiraling decline of cable TV to its effect on political advertising, as that is what is the driver of big money in politics.

A Tech Story With Major Political Ramifications

I’m not sure that’s entirely a correct reading of the situation. If you have Sling or Hulu Live or one of the other services that offers live TV, you’re still getting commercials, because you’re still watching traditional TV channels, it’s just you’re watching over the internet instead via the cable box. The question for advertisers, not just political, is how many people are choosing to watch things the next day or later and thus not having to bother with commercials - which is something they’ve dealt with in the past (VCRs, DVRs) but now, when you can binge an entire season six months later instead of watching one episode a week, the calculus is changing again.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:04:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:06:07pm

I must tell this story of a memory of history class I have. There was a required history class that we all had to take as history majors at GMU. I believe it was to help prepare us for our term papers. Anyhow the class I took was History in Popular Memory. It was a mostly white class except for one African-American young woman. In the class, there was a young white woman who in her spare time did re-enactments. This young woman wasn’t a bigot or anything like that but she definitely suffered from the rosy images of the CSA that you get in the South. And our African-American classmate was having none of that. I think she one time brought up and this is what’s stayed with me nearly ten years later about what the CSA flag means to her. Too often, we hear the CSA flag is about heritage, honor, pride, etc but it’s never thought to ask black people about it. That black was meant to keep them in bondage and later keep them inferior to whites. I’ve never owned a CSA flag and I proudly never will. In tribute to my Irish ancestors and the thousands of other men including my own second great grandfather, I have the flag of the 69th New York (The Irish Brigade) tattooed on my arm and the flag in my room/office. I’d be shocked if I met my second great grandfather today and he shared racially enlightened views but he was enlightened enough to not support destroying this country to preserve slavery and for that, John C. Schmittdiel is more of a hero than Robert E. Lee will ever be to me.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:08:45pm

re: #312 jaunte

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The VA DNC could try…but the media would be too busy gnawing on Northam’s bones to care.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:09:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:10:32pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Mitch comes from a Union state no less.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:11:32pm

re: #319 HappyWarrior

And Mitch comes from a Union state no less.

Mitch actually comes from Alabama originally.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:13:48pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mitch actually comes from Alabama originally.

True enough. The worst CSA fan boy though is Corey Stewart. He’s from Minnesota but talks like he’s from Mississippi. The CSA posers are the worst.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:13:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:14:25pm

re: #322 teleskiguy

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Pretty much. That’s exactly what that ass Erickson is doing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:14:57pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:15:07pm

Liberals: “You all are a bunch of racist hypocrites!”

VA GOP: “Doesn’t matter, got a scalp.”

Liberals: “You’ll pay for this at the polls!”

Media: “And we continue our coverage on the massive disaster for the VA DNC as Ralph Northam resigns in disgrace. Let’s go to our panel of Republican commentators to tell us how badly this will hurt the Dems in the next elections.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:20:05pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If Zeldin really thinks he’s going to get Omar to not disavow Anti-Semitism, he may in fact be more delusional than Ben Shapiro.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:20:47pm

I guarantee you that Zeldin wasn’t expecting to get a thoughtful response from Congresswoman Omar.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:21:18pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

The bare facts of the relevant bits of US history are not kind to believers in Lost Cause mythology.

1) The confederacy started a civil war it had little chance of winning for the cause of preserving and extending chattel slavery. One of the union generals characterized that cause as “the worst cause for which men have fought”, which is very difficult to disagree with.

2) After the war, there was an attempt to enforce real civil rights for blacks in the South, but the resistance was massive and the nation grew tired of the struggle, culminating in the deal of 1877 that made Hayes (R) president in exchange for the end of Reconstruction. Not so incidentally, the two party system in the US only leads to normal political compromises etc. when the two parties basically agree on how screwed over black people should be. The deal of 1877 made that agreement as follows: the South could do as it pleased, as long as slavery wasn’t explicitly reintroduced. So could the North. It wasn’t like there was any real nationwide commitment to civil rights anywhere. When this agreement is not present, the two party system goes off the rails (e.g., the mid 19th century, the 20th century after the civil rights realignment).

3) After the end of Reconstruction, the powers that be in the South embarked on a vigorous campaign of terrorism to remove all the progress that had been made in Reconstruction. The end result was Jim Crow, which was made as awful as possible for blacks to fuel Lost Cause myth-making that black were better off under slavery.

4) In combination with the terrorism campaign, a propaganda war was launched that continues to this day. Notable examples include The Birth of a Nation and the corruption of public school history. E.g. citing the rise of ‘sectionalism’ as cause for the civil war to deflect away from the primary role of slavery.

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Broad With Sass  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:22:39pm

re: #314 KGxvi

Sometimes even watching live we skip the commercials, I have you tube live for TV
Quite frequently during ESPN broadcasts, we get a blankscreen with the ESPN logo and a message that we are in commercial break with no commercial

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:25:39pm

She fessed up to surgeries she had last spring that she kept private, and she is coming to grips with the reality of the toll on her body her career as the most winningest World Cup ski racer the United States has ever seen has endured. She was the fastest, and she at times was also the crashest. She’s a legend.

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Interesting Times  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:25:55pm

Probably the most genuine/least hypocritical Never-Trumper there is:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:26:15pm

re: #330 teleskiguy

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She fessed up to surgeries she had last spring that she kept private, and she is coming to grips with the reality of the toll on her body her career as the most winningest World Cup ski racer the United States has ever seen has endured. She was the fastest, and she at times was also the crashest. She’s a legend.

Good luck ot her in her next chapter. And yeah a legend for sure. Transcended the sport.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:27:30pm

re: #331 Interesting Times

Probably the most genuine/least hypocritical Never-Trumper there is:

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I know some of us don’t like Rubin but I think she does get it perhaps more than the overwhelming majority of the Never Trumpers. That doesn’t mean we’re ideological agreement and she won’t be invited to a DNC platform committee but she’s genuine.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:31:56pm

I hope someone is going through all the other yearbooks at that medical school to look for similar photos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:33:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:35:05pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is why we need her in Congress.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:40:15pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

This is why we need her in Congress.

I think she said this early but she’s bringing me around to this thinking: All Democrats in safe districts need to start speaking out like her or they should start getting challenges from smart, aggressive people who will take their jobs more seriously.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:43:34pm

re: #337 Belafon

I think she said this early but she’s bringing me around to this thinking: All Democrats in safe districts need to start speaking out like her or they should start getting challenges from smart, aggressive people who will take their jobs more seriously.

No complaints from me. She’s an effective voice. She takes her job more seriously than many people who have been there longer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:50:06pm

Virginia newspaper weighs in:

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:50:54pm
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:52:35pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

I know some of us don’t like Rubin but I think she does get it perhaps more than the overwhelming majority of the Never Trumpers. That doesn’t mean we’re ideological agreement and she won’t be invited to a DNC platform committee but she’s genuine.

She helped build it.

To me she’s a genuine asshole.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:53:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:54:04pm

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

Virginia newspaper weighs in:

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That’s probably one of the better games on it that I’ve seen.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:55:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:55:44pm

re: #341 MsJ

She helped build it.

To me she’s a genuine asshole.

And now she’s trying to fix it imo. I get what you’re saying but I think she’s genuine I’m her disgust with the right. Does it make me forget the past? Nah but I appreciate that she’s using her pen to advocate against Trump and the right.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:56:46pm

re: #340 jaunte

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And the assholes never acknowledged Obama’s role in that. Fuck them.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:57:28pm

Seriously, how the fuck does he think he can ride this one out? I mean, besides white male privilege.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:57:29pm

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Erasure, it’s the latest invisible Klan robe.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:57:32pm

re: #344 goddamnedfrank

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That’s why I’m not worried about this effecting is. I’ve talked to other VA Dems. Not seeing any excuses.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 6:58:13pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, how the fuck does he think he can ride this one out? I mean, besides white male privilege.

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Soledad asks a great question.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:00:54pm

re: #345 HappyWarrior

And now she’s trying to fix it imo. I get what you’re saying but I think she’s genuine I’m her disgust with the right. Does it make me forget the past? Nah but I appreciate that she’s using her pen to advocate against Trump and the right.

She’s disgusted with trump. She’ll revert to her wholly assholeness once he’s gone.

Zebras don’t change their stripes. She broke it and she’ll tap on the cracks once trump is gone and break it all over again.

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A Three Hour Tour  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:02:19pm

re: #201 William Lewis

VMI is what made it acceptable. VMI should have been razed after the war and then given the Arlington treatment.

It was the EVMS yearbook - Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk - not VMI - Virginia Military Institute in Lexington.

Edited todd: Sorry. i see the correction has already been made. I’ve been in and out all day taking care of other business and haven’t been able to keep up. My apologies.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:02:59pm
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:03:25pm

I can understand why some democrats are defending him. Whatever he did back then doesn’t seem to be reflected in his actions today. And that’s why thet can keep him as a friend. But politics isn’t the same thing, and some choices we make for political reasons we wouldn’t make for personal ones.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:04:11pm

re: #351 MsJ

She’s disgusted with trump. She’ll revert to her wholly assholeness once he’s gone.

Zebras don’t change their stripes. She broke it and she’ll tap on the cracks once trump is gone and break it all over again.

I respectfully disagree given that she’s called out the Congressional GOP. I hope you’re wrong.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:04:34pm

The GOP needs to clean its house but never will, because the bigot brigade is the base. They can’t remove the base, or it’d cease to exist altogether.

Democrats can clean their house of bigots, because the party isn’t reliance on the bigots.

Northam’s going to be gone - the only question is how quickly he is gone. It’s not a question of if, but when.

And yet the GOP continue to enable a known racist, misogynist, and self-admitted sex predator in the WH. And a known white supremacist in Steve King. And known racists in FL, and elsewhere.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:05:03pm

re: #353 jaunte

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You mean the same nation that beat “yours”, a nation you never lived in.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:05:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:05:52pm

re: #352 A Three Hour Tour

It was the EVMS yearbook - Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk - not VMI - Virginia Military Institute in Lexington.

Covered. It was my fault for thinking this was VMI.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:06:18pm

re: #357 HappyWarrior

I don’t think the U.S. ever legally acknowledged the rebels as an actual nation.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:06:18pm

re: #353 jaunte

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:07:16pm

re: #355 HappyWarrior

I respectfully disagree given that she’s called out the Congressional GOP. I hope you’re wrong.

I’m glad some of the people here changed.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:08:08pm

re: #360 jaunte

I don’t think the U.S. ever legally acknowledged the rebels as an actual nation.

No, they didn’t. I’m trying to think of the only country that acknowledged the CSA’s legitimacy. France and the UK definitely did not. That’s why the Battle of Antietam is so important. A lot of historians say if the Army of Northern Virginia had won that battle that France and the UK, both heavily dependent on Southern cotton would have recongized the CSA’s legitimacy. And thus inspired Abe’s Emancipation Proclamation.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:08:32pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, how the fuck does he think he can ride this one out? I mean, besides white male privilege.

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There’s the example of Byrd, but that was long enough ago to have been in a different world.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:09:55pm

re: #362 Belafon

I’m glad some of the people here changed.

Ditto. I understand why she mistrusts Rubin but I think Rubin IMO has earned it. A lot of us here went along with the McCain’s campaign fears about Obama’s presidency. We don’t need Rubin to be our friend or have her shape our ideology but if she’s going to use her influence to write against Trump and the right, let’s welcome and appreciate that. She definitely IMO is far more sincere than most of the conservatives who don’t like Trump but routinely make excuses for the right/GOP’s actions and Jen to her credit doesn’t do that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:10:56pm

re: #364 EPR-radar

There’s the example of Byrd, but that was long enough ago to have been in a different world.

With Byrd, you had something like 50 years passing I believe.And that was full of GOP hypocrisy as well since they still had Helms and Thurmond, who I have never seen any conservative Republican sincerely disavow.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:11:47pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Covered. It was my fault for thinking this was VMI.

There’s nothing good in that VMI yearbook either.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:16:27pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

Ditto. I understand why she mistrusts Rubin but I think Rubin IMO has earned it. A lot of us here went along with the McCain’s campaign fears about Obama’s presidency. We don’t need Rubin to be our friend or have her shape our ideology but if she’s going to use her influence to write against Trump and the right, let’s welcome and appreciate that. She definitely IMO is far more sincere than most of the conservatives who don’t like Trump but routinely make excuses for the right/GOP’s actions and Jen to her credit doesn’t do that.

My main question about GOP reform is whether it is even possible.

The GOP exists to funnel money to the billionaires. But that hasn’t been a vote getter for a long time, which is why the GOP gets its votes from a big tent of resentful deplorables that can be reliably activated on various single issue grudges using simplistic propaganda.

The GOP is likely nothing without its hate. E.g., Schultz’s clinically interesting favorability (i.e., flatline, DOA) suggests that an agenda of being civilized on social issues and nice to the billionaires is a total non-starter for both left and right.

So how does the GOP move away from a formula of providing hate to get votes?

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gwangung  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:19:09pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

Ally. Not a friend.

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Old Liberal  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:19:50pm

re: #368 EPR-radar

My main question about GOP reform is whether it is even possible.

The GOP exists to funnel money to the billionaires. But that hasn’t been a vote getter for a long time, which is why the GOP gets its votes from a big tent of resentful deplorables that can be reliably activated on various single issue grudges using simplistic propaganda.

The GOP is likely nothing without its hate. E.g., Schultz’s clinically interesting favorability (i.e., flatline, DOA) suggests that an agenda of being civilized on social issues and nice to the billionaires is a total non-starter for both left and right.

So how does the GOP move away from a formula of providing hate to get votes?

They don’t. Either the Republican Party dies or our democracy dies in my opinion

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:20:51pm

re: #367 lawhawk

There’s nothing good in that VMI yearbook either.

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Yep I saw that too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:21:04pm

re: #369 gwangung

Ally. Not a friend.

Bingo.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:22:29pm

re: #368 EPR-radar

My main question about GOP reform is whether it is even possible.

The GOP exists to funnel money to the billionaires. But that hasn’t been a vote getter for a long time, which is why the GOP gets its votes from a big tent of resentful deplorables that can be reliably activated on various single issue grudges using simplistic propaganda.

The GOP is likely nothing without its hate. E.g., Schultz’s clinically interesting favorability (i.e., flatline, DOA) suggests that an agenda of being civilized on social issues and nice to the billionaires is a total non-starter for both left and right.

So how does the GOP move away from a formula of providing hate to get votes?

What I really think needs to happen is a sane center-right needs to emerge but that’s only going to happen is the GOP is shown that the bigotry it’s operated under for the past 50 years since Nixon began the Southern Strategy is a loser. It’s worked for them. The best we can unfortunately hope for now is just beating them into submission.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:22:29pm

re: #370 Old Liberal

They don’t. Either the Republican Party dies or our democracy dies in my opinion

That’s exactly how I see it.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:22:31pm

Anticipating what Trump will say, now is the time to highlight his role in demonizing and calling for the death penalty the innocent boys in the Central Park case. He took out a full-page ad.

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retired cynic  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:23:31pm

re: #374 EPR-radar

I don’t think it will die while there are enough millions of people who support their particular line of bulkshit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:23:37pm

re: #375 Barefoot Grin

Anticipating what Trump will say, now is the time to highlight his role in demonizing and calling for the death penalty the innocent boys in the Central Park case. He took out a full-page ad.

It didn’t stop him or Huckabee Sanders for feigning outrage at how the Covington boys were treated. I bet you he’ll have a stupid and possibly racist nickname for Northam.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:24:27pm

re: #373 HappyWarrior

What I really think needs to happen is a sane center-right needs to emerge but that’s only going to happen is the GOP is shown that the bigotry it’s operated under for the past 50 years since Nixon began the Southern Strategy is a loser. It’s worked for them. The best we can unfortunately hope for now is just beating them into submission.

The problem is this: If we kill off the GOP, we still have the racists, and they are a large part of the country, still holding sway in many states. How do we marginalize them, which is what we all really want?

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:24:50pm

re: #370 Old Liberal

They don’t. Either the Republican Party dies or our democracy dies in my opinion

GOP Delenda Est.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:26:37pm

re: #373 HappyWarrior

What I really think needs to happen is a sane center-right needs to emerge but that’s only going to happen is the GOP is shown that the bigotry it’s operated under for the past 50 years since Nixon began the Southern Strategy is a loser. It’s worked for them. The best we can unfortunately hope for now is just beating them into submission.

The problem is that there are enough bigots and fellow-travellers of bigots in the US that the chance of the GOP suffering crushing enough losses to force a change away from this shit is zero.

The GOP is always either running things or in a strong enough minority position to fuck everything up. The ACA and some other reforms in Obama’s first two years is like the only exception to this rule since 1980 or so, when the civil rights realignment was completed.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:26:52pm

re: #369 gwangung

Ally. Not a friend.

Not even.

“The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. No more. No less.” Maxim 29

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:27:43pm

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

I had heard about the QuadrigaCX shutdown, but only today got to see the details.

So, the CEO of the company had sole control of the exchange funds. According to the Coindesk article, he would move funds from the exchange’s hot wallets (the ones that face the users of the exchange) to the cold wallets (the ones that are not connected to the Internet). Wisely, he encrypted the cold wallets to prevent hacking attacks. Unwisely, he’s the only one who apparently had the decryption code.

Why anyone thought this was a good idea defies description. You never ever have one person in sole control of a company’s funds.

As of Jan. 31, 2019, there were roughly 115,000 users with balances signed up on the exchange, with $70 million CAD in fiat and $180 million CAD in crypto owed overall, according to the filing.

The exchange holds roughly 26,500 bitcoin ($92.3 million USD), 11,000 bitcoin cash ($1.3 million), 11,000 bitcoin cash SV ($707,000), 35,000 bitcoin gold ($352,000), nearly 200,000 litecoin ($6.5 million) and about 430,000 ether ($46 million), totaling $147 million, according to the affidavit.

It was not clear what portion of the exchange’s crypto holding were kept in cold storage, versus its hot wallet. In the affidavit, Robertson explained that “only a minimal amount of coins” were stored in the hot wallet, but specifics were not provided.

coindesk.com

Jennifer Robertson is the widow of the now-deceased CEO, Gerald Cotten, according to court documents.

More from CoinTelegraph:

Per The Globe and Mail, Cotten mostly worked form his computer at home, which is encrypted. Cotten’s wife, Jennifer Robertson, reportedly stated in an affidavit, “I do not know the password or recovery key. Despite repeated and diligent searches, I have not been able to find them written down anywhere.” Robertson purportedly went so far as to hire a cybersecurity expert to “hack into Gerry’s computers” to no avail.

Other exchange operators told The Globe and Mail that it was unusual for a single executive to control access to an exchange’s funds, as it would have made Cotten a target for kidnapping and extortion. Michael Gokturk, CEO Einstein Exchange in Vancouver, said, “It’s the equivalent of walking around with millions of dollars in cash on you at all times.”

Users of the platform, some of whom were already unable to withdraw funds due to a legal battle between the exchange and a major Canadian bank, took to Twitter and Reddit following an announcement of Cotten’s passing. Some users asked for proof of death or an obituary.

Robertson’s affidavit reportedly states, “There have also been threats made against [her]. “Slanderous comments have been made against [her] and sent through Facebook messenger to [her] entire contact list.” Robertson is reportedly funding the creditor protection motion herself and a preliminary hearing has been set for Feb. 5.

cointelegraph.com

IOW, the exchange was being run by a rank amateur who had no business being in charge of millions of dollars of other people’s money.

Also, this failure is another example of why no one should ever store large sums of money on a cryptocurrency exchange.

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Old Liberal  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:29:43pm

re: #374 EPR-radar

That’s exactly how I see it.

It’s not just the bigotry. It is obscenely wealthy people destroying education and pushing propaganda that promotes anti-science and anti-general welfare. They are deliberately creating rubes.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:30:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:32:09pm

re: #384 jaunte

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Indeed. It was awful the guy got shot but he has never apologized for wanting to be David Duke without the baggage of being a Klan member.

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plansbandc  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:32:37pm

re: #344 goddamnedfrank

Not to mention our party actually has some integrity.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:33:04pm

re: #378 Belafon

The problem is this: If we kill off the GOP, we still have the racists, and they are a large part of the country, still holding sway in many states. How do we marginalize them, which is what we all really want?

I don’t know. What troubles me is social liberalism seems to really bring out their worst impulses but we need social liberalism to have progress.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:33:15pm

re: #375 Barefoot Grin

Anticipating what Trump will say, now is the time to highlight his role in demonizing and calling for the death penalty the innocent boys in the Central Park case. He took out a full-page ad.

Even after their innocence was basically proven, Trump continued to insist, as late as the 2016 campaign, that they were guilty, and that the settlement was a farce.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:33:51pm

re: #380 EPR-radar

The problem is that there are enough bigots and fellow-travellers of bigots in the US that the chance of the GOP suffering crushing enough losses to force a change away from this shit is zero.

The GOP is always either running things or in a strong enough minority position to fuck everything up. The ACA and some other reforms in Obama’s first two years is like the only exception to this rule since 1980 or so, when the civil rights realignment was completed.

You’re right. That is what makes this difficult.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:35:46pm

re: #387 HappyWarrior

I don’t know. What troubles me is social liberalism seems to really bring out their worst impulses but we need social liberalism to have progress.

I really think it’s telling that the 2-party system in the US only seems to function as a normal political system when the parties agree on how badly blacks and other minorities should be screwed over.

Ever since the civil rights realignment, the US has been ungovernable because the GOP is the party of racists and the Democrats aren’t (finally).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:37:25pm

re: #390 EPR-radar

I really think it’s telling that the 2-party system in the US only seems to function as a normal political system when the parties agree on how badly blacks and other minorities should be screwed over.

Ever since the civil right realignment, the US has been ungovernable because the GOP is the party of racists and the Democrats aren’t (finally).

I just wonder how long it can last. It’s not really a geographic divide. It’s a mindset divide. If there is a geographic divide, it’s not between regions, it’s between urban/suburban and rural. And the divide is even more apparent IMO when it comes to education.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:38:59pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:41:17pm

re: #382 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

As of Jan. 31, 2019, there were roughly 115,000 users with balances signed up on the exchange, with $70 million CAD in fiat and $180 million CAD in crypto owed overall, according to the filing.

These scam artists are really wedded to that supposed insult “fiat” currency aren’t they? Real currency, issued by a government, has something backing it up. As I’ve said before, if you can pull “money” out of your ass and get anybody to accept it, more power to you, but what could be more “fiat” (let it be) currency than that?

And why in heaven’s name do you need computers churning away massive amounts of electricity to do it? “Look, you rubes, this here is money!” There—very little energy expended. This is complete idiocy that makes tulipomania look intelligent.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:41:44pm

One thing I’m thinking about tonight are the men/women who shaped my worldviews. Mostly white people as I’m a white male with two white parents and four white grandparents and who had mostly white authority figures in school, youth sports, etc. I would never say I was “color blind” but I do think I just tried to see people as people. Yeah I knew my good friend growing up was from Peru but what mattered was that we had common interests. I don’t know anything about Northam’s upbringing or the culture at that medical college but from even an early age, things like the KKK weren’t a joke to me. I remember my grandfather- a child of an immigrant telling us about the KKK going through his hometown. And I knew that the CIvil Rights Movement wasn’t the PG rated version we got in school. I just don’t understand what made a 25 year old guy think dressing up in KKK or blackface was not only funny but worthy of his yearbook for all posterity to see.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:42:34pm

re: #392 Belafon

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Oh wow, I never knew that. But yeah lest anyone think the North was this enlightened paradise and only the South was awful.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:45:42pm

I still think one of the most profound things is reading black athletes talk about their duality experiences. A hero when they make the homer or big catch but then they have trouble finding a good place to live to raise their families.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:47:17pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

One thing I’m thinking about tonight are the men/women who shaped my worldviews. Mostly white people as I’m a white male with two white parents and four white grandparents and who had mostly white authority figures in school, youth sports, etc. I would never say I was “color blind” but I do think I just tried to see people as people. Yeah I knew my good friend growing up was from Peru but what mattered was that we had common interests. I don’t know anything about Northam’s upbringing or the culture at that medical college but from even an early age, things like the KKK weren’t a joke to me. I remember my grandfather- a child of an immigrant telling us about the KKK going through his hometown. And I knew that the CIvil Rights Movement wasn’t the PG rated version we got in school. I just don’t understand what made a 25 year old guy think dressing up in KKK or blackface was not only funny but worthy of his yearbook for all posterity to see.

Are things different now than they used to be? Every yearbook I knew anything about, it was up to the students to provide the face pics for the alphabetical section, but the editors chose what other pictures to put in. Doesn’t excuse the existence of the picture in the first place, but I doubt if Northam had any say in its appearance in the yearbook.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:51:23pm

re: #397 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Are things different now than they used to be? Every yearbook I knew anything about, it was up to the students to provide the face pics for the alphabetical section, but the editors chose what other pictures to put in. Doesn’t excuse the existence of the picture in the first place, but I doubt if Northam had any say in its appearance in the yearbook.

I’m not sure. I’ve been out of school awhile myself. For some photos, I doubt you get a say. Like there are photos of me in lectures or attending extracurricular activities but something like the photos we saw, I think he did have a say since it was his graduation photo page. And if the yearbook committee had access to it, it would suggest that this kind of thing wasn’t uncommon at the Med school.

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ckkatz  Feb 1, 2019 • 7:55:57pm

re: #392 Belafon

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I’m Jewish. When my parents were looking to purchase a home in the DC region during the late 1950’s they also bumped against redlining. Clearly it was not as severe as that against Afro-Americans. And, at that time it was starting to dissolve.

My father also told us stories about his experience when applying for college in the 1930’s as a Jew. And mentioned in passing, issues he encountered as a Jew, working in the State Department.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:01:35pm

re: #399 ckkatz

I’m Jewish. When my parents were looking to purchase a home in the DC region during the late 1950’s they also bumped against redlining. Clearly it was not as severe as that against Afro-Americans. And, at that time it was starting to dissolve.

My father also told us stories about his experience when applying for college in the 1930’s as a Jew. And mentioned in passing, issues he encountered as a Jew, working in the State Department.

I do wonder if my grandparents experiences as Catholics who had it better than Jews and other racial minorities informed their views a little. In my family research, I discovered my father’s grandfather was born into a Lutheran family but his grandmother was born into a Catholic one. My grandfather and his siblings were more or less raised Catholic. So maybe the mixed faith background impacted my grandfather in how he taught my aunts, uncles, & Dad how to treat people. Add to that, Dads mom was from a more modest socioeconomic background as well. I dunno. I would never call my background “exotic” but I do have close ancestors who defined the conventions of their times.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:08:54pm

re: #393 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

These scam artists are really wedded to that supposed insult “fiat” currency aren’t they? Real currency, issued by a government, has something backing it up. As I’ve said before, if you can pull “money” out of your ass and get anybody to accept it, more power to you, but what could be more “fiat” (let it be) currency than that?

And why in heaven’s name do you need computers churning away massive amounts of electricity to do it? “Look, you rubes, this here is money!” There—very little energy expended. This is complete idiocy that makes tulipomania look intelligent.

Fiat currency is a term coined by the hard-money crowd, and there is substantial overlap in the Venn diagram of hard-money believers and cryptocurrency users. A lot also subscribe to Austrian economics, so add another circle to the diagram. Cryptos are believed to be true “free market” currencies, free from government regulation because that’s bad, in their view. Then, we have unregulated exchanges go belly up. Yay, freedom!

Not all cryptocurrencies chew up massive amounts of electricity, though. Those that do use proof of work (aka “mining”) as a way to secure and verify transactions. Bitcoin is the main culprit, with Ethereum a close second. Others are less resource intensive. There are other systems that require holding a certain amount of a crypto in a node to secure and verify transactions. Those don’t use much electricity to operate. Examples would be NEM and Ardor, which don’t get much press in the USA, but are popular in Japan and Europe, respectively.

When you get right down to it, a currency or commodity has value only because the people using it agree on the value. That’s true no matter if the item is a gold Sovereign, a $5 bill, or a bitcoin.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:11:39pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:12:42pm

So, I see Google is adding Google+ to the Google dustbin of projects destined to be shitcanned by Google.

Good thing I hardly ever used it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:15:11pm

re: #402 goddamnedfrank

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What have the others said?

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:16:46pm

re: #382 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I had heard about the QuadrigaCX shutdown, but only today got to see the details.

So, the CEO of the company had sole control of the exchange funds. According to the Coindesk article, he would move funds from the exchange’s hot wallets (the ones that face the users of the exchange) to the cold wallets (the ones that are not connected to the Internet). Wisely, he encrypted the cold wallets to prevent hacking attacks. Unwisely, he’s the only one who apparently had the decryption code.

Why anyone thought this was a good idea defies description. You never ever have one person in sole control of a company’s funds.

Or… it’s a lie. He gave her the passwords/decryption code before he died, she’s pretending it died with him. And she’ll turn up in a couple of years in a no-extradition country with a fortune she’ll refuse to explain the origin of.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:17:36pm

Bros are saying Bernie looks good for endorsing Perriello over him. And uh no. I’m sorry but no. Bernie didn’t object to Northam because of racial issues. He thought he wasn’t what he wanted on economics. That’s totally different.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:19:18pm

re: #405 sagehen

Or… it’s a lie. He gave her the passwords/decryption code before he died, she’s pretending it died with him. And she’ll turn up in a couple of years in a no-extradition country with a fortune she’ll refuse to explain the origin of.

Sounds like he was following the “don’t share your passwords” protocol like we have at work, but didn’t plan on someone else needing to get in.

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:20:17pm

re: #390 EPR-radar

I really think it’s telling that the 2-party system in the US only seems to function as a normal political system when the parties agree on how badly blacks and other minorities should be screwed over.

Ever since the civil rights realignment, the US has been ungovernable because the GOP is the party of racists and the Democrats aren’t (finally).

Reminder: the reason we were able to get Social Security and Medicare is because FDR cut a deal with the southern democrats that farmworkers and domestic staff were specifically excluded. So… 3/4 of black people.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:21:41pm

re: #408 sagehen

Reminder: the reason we were able to get Social Security and Medicare is because FDR cut a deal with the southern democrats that farmworkers and domestic staff were specifically excluded. So… 3/4 of black people.

Yep.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:22:42pm

re: #405 sagehen

Or… it’s a lie. He gave her the passwords/decryption code before he died, she’s pretending it died with him. And she’ll turn up in a couple of years in a no-extradition country with a fortune she’ll refuse to explain the origin of.

Yeah, there is also that possibility. Putting the funds in cold wallets, though, does not disguise them from the blockchain. If I move 1.0 bitcoin from address X in the hot wallet to address Y in the cold wallet, that 1.0 bitcoin will still have address Y when it leaves the cold wallet to go to address Z. Smart people should now be monitoring all those addresses to make sure no funny stuff is going on behind the scenes.

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ckkatz  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:23:16pm

re: #400 HappyWarrior

I do wonder if my grandparents experiences as Catholics who had it better than Jews and other racial minorities informed their views a little. In my family research, I discovered my father’s grandfather was born into a Lutheran family but his grandmother was born into a Catholic one. My grandfather and his siblings were more or less raised Catholic. So maybe the mixed faith background impacted my grandfather in how he taught my aunts, uncles, & Dad how to treat people. Add to that, Dads mom was from a more modest socioeconomic background as well. I dunno. I would never call my background “exotic” but I do have close ancestors who defined the conventions of their times.

I suspect that your family did experience prejudice. Remember that John F Kennedy had to address his Catholicism directly with the American public. And had to convince US voters that he was not secretly beholden to the ‘foreign’ Vatican.

In Pittsburgh, in the 1960’s, each hill-top and valley was considered an ethnic neighborhood. Tell someone which neighborhood you were from and you pretty much identified your ethnic and economic class. And there was still subtle ‘ordering’ of ethnic groups.

Pittsburgh’s Taylor Alderdice High School drew from two neighborhoods (Greenfield and Squirrel Hill) and there were fist fights in the halls and local streets (known as jumping. And usually many against one). It wasn’t integrated with an African -American neighborhood until 1969, which led to several days of even more fist fights in the halls and streets near the school.

Interestingly, if you stayed within your own neighborhood, you generally did not meet much prejudice. It was only when you left the neighborhood for the public spots that the prejudice was directly encountered.

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Interesting Times  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:24:59pm

Whoa o_O

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:27:59pm

re: #411 ckkatz

I suspect that your family did experience prejudice. Remember that John F Kennedy had to address his Catholicism directly with the American public. And had to convince US voters that he was not secretly beholden to the ‘foreign’ Vatican.

In Pittsburgh, in the 1960’s, each hill-top and valley was considered an ethnic neighborhood. Tell someone which neighborhood you were from and you pretty much identified your ethnic and economic class. And there was still subtle ‘ordering’ of ethnic groups.

Pittsburgh’s Taylor Alderdice High School drew from two neighborhoods (Greenfield and Squirrel Hill) and there were fist fights in the halls and local streets (known as jumping. And usually many against one). It wasn’t integrated with an African -American neighborhood until 1969, which led to several days of even more fist fights in the halls and streets near the school.

Interestingly, if you stayed within your own neighborhood, you generally did not meet much prejudice. It was only when you left the neighborhood for the public spots that the prejudice was directly encountered.

Yep and my Dad and his siblings attended Catholic school in Virginia. My dads parents were a common North Side mix, German father and Irish mother. I also think it was a little tough for my Nana since she had lost her own mom young and I think had a little bit of a chip on her shoulder about being the elevator operator’s daughter marrying the bank executive’s son. Dunno but it’s something I never really thought about. My moms parents were more or less from the same background. Both miners’ kids and immigrant parents.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:28:52pm

re: #412 Interesting Times

Whoa o_O

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He’s not wrong about the double standard.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:30:17pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:31:31pm

re: #407 Belafon

Sounds like he was following the “don’t share your passwords” protocol like we have at work, but didn’t plan on someone else needing to get in.

There are all sorts of ways to mitigate such a situation, such as dividing up the passphrase among several people, leaving part of it locked in a safe deposit box or kept by a lawyer, etc.

Our reliance on electronic finance generally (and not just cryptocurrencies) not only means protecting your passwords and account information, but also ensuring that your heirs or successors can access your funds after you die. If you are the head of company with custody of millions of dollars, that responsibility is even greater.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:32:48pm

re: #351 MsJ

She’s disgusted with trump. She’ll revert to her wholly assholeness once he’s gone.

Zebras don’t change their stripes. She broke it and she’ll tap on the cracks once trump is gone and break it all over again.

I disagree. I remember in the early 1990’s when Arianna Huffington was just like Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham, before she broke with the Right and later founded the Left-leaning site Huffington Post. And David Brock was a right wing operative before he did some soul searching and left the Right, later on to start Media Matters. Even Charles Johnson broke with the Right because of their overt racism, ten years ago. Recent Conservatives that renounced the Republican Party, other than Jennifer Rubins, former Breitbart writer Kurt Berdella, Joe Scarborough, and former Standard Weekly writer Max Boot.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2019 • 8:34:13pm

re: #415 jaunte

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Uh no he wouldn’t be. Your party would be insisting he was just a kid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:35:22am

re: #42 Sea Mexican

*Scratches Arkansas from places to consider moving.*

It was never on any list of mine…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:37:15am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

[Governor Northam’s] career is toast now.

if he were R, he would have a career as a political commentator on victims of PC terror


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