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Ace Rothstein  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:01:59pm

In response to Ipsos’ post downstairs.

He said it was him in the photo yesterday, then today he said it isn’t. Sorry, but there’s no way in the world you wouldn’t know.

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Skip Intro  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:02:37pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:06:44pm

re: #1 Ace Rothstein

Maybe he thought people would give him a pass if he admitted it only now he sees that’s not happening so he’s frantically trying to save himself.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:08:33pm

re: #1 Ace Rothstein

In response to Ipsos’ post downstairs.

He said it was him in the photo yesterday, then today he said it isn’t. Sorry, but there’s no way in the world you wouldn’t know.

Well, actually….

Now he says it’s not him in blackface in the picture, but he thought it might be, because of that OTHER time he was in blackface.

THAT’S NOT ANY BETTER!!!!!!!!

Time for the hook.

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bd(Enquiring minds want to know!)  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:09:34pm

What if Obama Northam was really born in Kenya never went to that party and dressed like that but somebody placed a fake birth announcement in the Honolulu paper picture in his yearbook knowing that he would be running for president governor someday?

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:09:36pm

“The Party of Lincoln.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:10:28pm

So, he managed to come up with a defense that makes perfect sense, while completely failing to exonerate him.

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Skip Intro  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:10:42pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:12:48pm

re: #6 DodgerFan1988

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“The Party of Lincoln.”

He’a not alone. Plenty of politicians down here of similar stripes. *cough*Cindy Hyde-Smith*cough*

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:15:03pm

re: #6 DodgerFan1988

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“The Party of Lincoln.”

Yep. Northam is a problem but this is a fucking epidemic in the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:16:14pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

He’a not alone. Plenty of politicians down here of similar stripes.

I have met many a Southern GOPer who thinks Lincoln was the worst tyrant this country has ever seen. Me? Third generation Democrat. I keep his wit and wisdom on my desk. And I’m not ashamed to admit that I teared up a little at the end of Lincoln.

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Skip Intro  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:16:26pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Yep. Northam is a problem but this is a fucking epidemic in the GOP.

But it isn’t a problem there, it’s a feature.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:18:41pm

Most of the responses to her are good, but I’m going to put mine:

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:20:53pm

I would love it if she invited Hillary:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:23:21pm

re: #12 Skip Intro

But it isn’t a problem there, it’s a feature.

So true.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:23:45pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Yep. Northam is a problem but this is a fucking epidemic in the GOP.

GOPers need to actually read those Bibles they are always thumping.

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
Matthew 7:5 KJV

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:24:17pm

Obama and Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:25:06pm

re: #13 Belafon

Most of the responses to her are good, but I’m going to put mine:

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Your party literally nominated Corey fucking Stewart in my state, Ronna. And as for his 2013 opponent, you forgot the little detail of E.W. Jackson’s disgusting homophobia and bigotry towards non Christians. Fuck you and your party for acting like your party hasn’t had racist shit stains in it for years in my state. You know nothing about Virginia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:26:02pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Yep. Northam is a problem but this is a fucking epidemic in the GOP.

But they have found out a way to inoculate themselves against any consequences just like they do with misogyny.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:26:43pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

Obama and Obama.

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Obama always I thought looked his most relaxed with kids. I know it’s not a real photo but it gets me thinking of how genuinely a good dude Obama is and how awful Trump really is. Obama’s the kind of guy who if he met your kid would probably ask about him if you saw him again. Trump probably forgets Barron’s name all the time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:27:26pm

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But they have found out a way to inoculate themselves against any consequences just like they do with misogyny.

I don’t know. Stewart getting his ass handed to him was a good sign. But you are right. Their primary voters seem fine with it.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:27:37pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

Obama and Obama.

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“Quit poking yourself.”

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:28:39pm

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But they have found out a way to inoculate themselves against any consequences just like they do with misogyny.

It didn’t work out quite so well in 2018.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:29:33pm

The LT. Governor:

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:30:07pm

re: #24 Belafon

The LT. Governor:

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Getting about as close as he can to telling Northam to resign in my opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:30:09pm

re: #24 Belafon

The LT. Governor:

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He’s one of the people I feel worst for in this whole situation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:32:06pm

re: #25 Belafon

Getting about as close as he can to telling Northam to resign in my opinion.

Without plainly saying it. Good diplomatic statement right there.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:32:32pm

This is one of my favorite recently discovered songs.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:34:15pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

Without plainly saying it. Good diplomatic statement right there.

He’s a great guy. I was reading his wiki bio yesterday. He’s a very impressive guy who has truly risen through the ranks. If he’s the next Virginia President after Wilson, I’d be very proud but he has to be governor first before we can even consider having that conversation but he’s someone with a bright future ahead.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:34:22pm
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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:34:50pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

He’s one of the people I feel worst for in this whole situation.

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A Three Hour Tour  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:35:35pm

re: #13 Belafon

Most of the responses to her are good, but I’m going to put mine:

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Until 1979, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, of which the Romney clan are prominent members, restricted black members’ participation in church rituals and prevented black men from becoming priests.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:37:47pm

re: #31 Belafon

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I mean he is Lt Governor, he should speak out because of that. Not just because he’s black but AG Herring should as well. And do not get me started on the people using this to shit on Kamala Harris, all of whom are white conservatives who didn’t give two shits about the fact that their party nominated Corey Stewart.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:38:30pm

re: #32 A Three Hour Tour

Until 1979, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, of which the Romney clan are prominent members, restricted black members’ participation in church rituals and prevented black men from becoming priests.

George Romney, Mitt’s own father and Ronna’s grandfather was a supporter of Civil Rights as Michigan’s governor but Mitt and Ronna’s actions to me show they would have been cowards on this.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:41:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:41:58pm

I imagine alot of wingnuts are shocked that we’re holding his feet to the fire on this. They’er always asking “Well what if it was a Democrat” and they have their answer.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:44:17pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

I imagine alot of wingnuts are shocked that we’re holding his feet to the fire on this. They’er always asking “Well what if it was a Democrat” and they have their answer.

The one’s that are willing to read other replies. Far too many are like Ronna, thinking they are being superior by completely ignoring everything that doesn’t fit in their worldview.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:46:32pm

re: #37 Belafon

The one’s that are willing to read other replies. Far too many are like Ronna, thinking they are being superior by completely ignoring everything that doesn’t fit in their worldview.

I responded to my cousin btw. Told him that the party of Corey Stewart shouldn’t be lecturing anyone as well as that pretty much every prominent Democrat in the state has called it out. Meanwhile, Trump who he likes and supports was Corey Stewart’s strongest backer here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:46:37pm

re: #30 Belafon

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a hand palming a human face, forever.” - Not George Orwell.

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A Cranky One  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:50:29pm

Deer just chilling

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:52:21pm

I can’t express the murderous rage I feel right now.

Yes, I quit smoking again.

I’m fucking dangerous right now. My husband’s fearing for his survival.

Fuck. My. Life.

That is all.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:56:13pm

Putin already announced the creation of a new class of IRBM today. Those missiles will be pointed at NATO.

He planned this with Trump months ago.

All of the other damage Trump has done so far was repairable. This is not. This cannot be fixed. The nuclear arms race is back again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:56:26pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I don’t know. Stewart getting his ass handed to him was a good sign. But you are right. Their primary voters seem fine with it.

Roy Moore won the primary and came uncomfortably close to winning the general

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:56:50pm

re: #23 Belafon

It didn’t work out quite so well in 2018.

they should have lost the senate as well

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:57:09pm

re: #41 MsJ

I can’t express the murderous rage I feel right now.

Yes, I quit smoking again.

I’m fucking dangerous right now. My husband’s fearing for his survival.

Fuck. My. Life.

That is all.

The gum saved my sanity. And maybe kept me out of prison.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:57:49pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

I imagine alot of wingnuts are shocked that we’re holding his feet to the fire on this. They’er always asking “Well what if it was a Democrat” and they have their answer.

They are simply ignoring all that and keep repeating that we are defending him and the MSM is hiding the story.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:57:58pm

=re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Roy Moore won the primary and came uncomfortably close to winning the general

Yes he did but I’m talking specifically about the actions of the GOP electorate in the same state. And Roy Moore while certainly racist was brought down more on being a creepy asshole towards underaged girls than being racist.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:58:16pm

re: #46 Scottish Dragon

They are simply ignoring all that and keep repeating that we are defending him and the MSM is hiding the story.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:58:36pm

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they should have lost the senate as well

They should have but they also had a very favorable map. Won’t be that way this time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 1:59:13pm

re: #32 A Three Hour Tour

Until 1979, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, of which the Romney clan are prominent members, restricted black members’ participation in church rituals and prevented black men from becoming priests.

and only had a “revelation” allowing that to change when they were threatened with losing their tax-exempt status

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:00:40pm

re: #41 MsJ

I can’t express the murderous rage I feel right now.

Yes, I quit smoking again.

I’m fucking dangerous right now. My husband’s fearing for his survival.

Fuck. My. Life.

That is all.

Just stay away from hazardous implements of death and destruction…like pillows and cocker spaniels.

///

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:01:50pm

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they should have lost the senate as well

DeSantis says ‘Hi’ too.

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ericblair  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:02:09pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

I imagine alot of wingnuts are shocked that we’re holding his feet to the fire on this. They’er always asking “Well what if it was a Democrat” and they have their answer.

Sure, and the bottomless bad faith as shown from Erick ibn Erick O’Erick. And the mess from Elizabeth Warren’s attempt to resolve issues with her ancestry. You will never win with Republicans by trying to play on their terms, because they are liars and cheats and everything is done in bad faith. You keep your own house in order as well as you can, but as far as the goopers are concerned, they are beyond redemption at this point.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:05:27pm

re: #53 ericblair

Sure, and the bottomless bad faith as shown from Erick ibn Erick O’Erick. And the mess from Elizabeth Warren’s attempt to resolve issues with her ancestry. You will never win with Republicans by trying to play on their terms, because they are liars and cheats and everything is done in bad faith. You keep your own house in order as well as you can, but as far as the goopers are concerned, they are beyond redemption at this point.

Exactly.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:05:52pm

re: #53 ericblair

Sure, and the bottomless bad faith as shown from Erick ibn Erick O’Erick. And the mess from Elizabeth Warren’s attempt to resolve issues with her ancestry. You will never win with Republicans by trying to play on their terms, because they are liars and cheats and everything is done in bad faith. You keep your own house in order as well as you can, but as far as the goopers are concerned, they are beyond redemption at this point.

I mean, at the very least, this isn’t about trying to impress the GOP or the media, since that’s never going to happen. This is, as you put it, about ‘keeping our house in order’ and taking care of something that actually erodes trust in a leadership figure.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:06:18pm

Evening Lizardim from the warm and, up until an hour ago, sunny wild north country. Spent my late morning and early afternoon doing oil changes with my boy in the driveway; got both of our daily drivers refreshed and ready for another 5000 miles. How go things among the lizardfolk on this sleepy Saturday?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:08:31pm

re: #55 Citizen K

I mean, at the very least, this isn’t about trying to impress the GOP or the media, since that’s never going to happen. This is, as you put it, about ‘keeping our house in order’ and taking care of something that actually erodes trust in a leadership figure.

It absolutely is a trust thing. This state has gotten better as I’ve gotten older but we have to remember we had a governor turned Senator in Allen who kept a CSA flag in his office. Our state has had Corey Stewart as a nominee for statewide office as recently as last fall. I don’t care what the Republicans say about us. I want us to be a positive example on this sort of thing and having a Governor who posed in KKK garb or blackface isn’t that.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:09:53pm

re: #56 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Things are warming up in Philly. The temperature actually went up to 33 degrees and most of the snow that fell yesterday is melted. I also salted the pavements so that whatever snow and/or water does not refreeze.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:10:24pm

You guys gotta remember that Northam was elected not long after Charlottesville happened too. That definitely is weighing on my mind and alot of others.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:13:36pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

You guys gotta remember that Northam was elected not long after Charlottesville happened too. That definitely is weighing on my mind and alot of others.

So all the progress we have made since then is now crumbling….

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:17:05pm

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So all the progress we have made since then is now crumbling….

No that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying that’s definitely something Virginia voters are thinking about. There are other things too. Northam didn’t include Fairfax on a flier either. The story given was that they didn’t want to offend the Union voters who supported the pipeline that Northam supported but not Fairfax. And then there’s how he handled it when Fairfax protested the Lee hagiography display just last month. This state has done a lot of good in those two years. We sent a diverse bunch of people first to Richmond in 2017 and then to Washington just this past November but this shows we’re still dealing with the ghosts of the Civil War and its aftermath.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:18:18pm

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So all the progress we have made since then is now crumbling….

Naaaah. A failure of progress would have been people not doing anything about it. I’m not sure what you’re measuring against, but there was a time, not that long ago, when a Democrat wouldn’t have been held to account.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:19:34pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

No that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying that’s definitely something Virginia voters are thinking about. There are other things too. Northam didn’t include Fairfax on a flier either. The story given was that they didn’t want to offend the Union voters who supported the pipeline that Northam supported but not Fairfax. And then there’s how he handled it when Fairfax protested the Lee hagiography display just last month. This state has done a lot of good in those two years. We sent a diverse bunch of people first to Richmond in 2017 and then to Washington just this past November but this shows we’re still dealing with the ghosts of the Civil War and its aftermath.

okay, I am only following this is fits and snatches

so a photo that appeared in a yearbook that existed in only 40 copies surfaced at a strategic moment to prove that Democrats are the real racists

at least that is what I am getting from the information I have gleaned

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:19:57pm

re: #62 Belafon

Naaaah. A failure of progress would have been people not doing anything about it. I’m not sure what you’re measuring against, but there was a time, not that long ago, when a Democrat wouldn’t have been held to account.

The reaction alone I’ve seen from other Virginia Democrats and liberals shows to me that in fact we have made progress. I’m proud of that. I’m not proud of how Northam is acting right now but I am proud of the leadership I have seen on this from others.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:23:30pm

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

okay, I am only following this is fits and snatches

so a photo that appeared in a yearbook that existed in only 40 copies surfaced at a strategic moment to prove that Democrats are the real racists

at least that is what I am getting from the information I have gleaned

It wasn’t done to prove that ZOMG DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL RACISTS, ti was done to discredit a man who wasn’t wavering on supporting the most progressive bit of pro-choice legislation that could have passed to the governor’s desk in years. I don’t care what the Republicans or right wing assholes with agendas like Erickson say, I care that my state, my state that not even two summers ago had a young woman not much older than me murdered by a racist because she was protesting the CSA flag. I care that my state still has plenty of people who want to venerate Robert E. Lee the same way we ought to be venerating true Virginia heroes like Thomas, Scott, Marshall, and others including Civil Rights heroes.

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Interesting Times  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:24:10pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:26:24pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

It wasn’t done to prove that ZOMG DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL RACISTS, ti was done to discredit a man who wasn’t wavering on supporting the most progressive bit of pro-choice legislation that could have passed to the governor’s desk in years.

that was the “strategic moment” I was indirectly referencing…

and of course we all know how well this reinforces the standard talking points that Democrats founded the KKK, everybody knows they want to keep blacks on the plantation, etc…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:26:45pm

Plot twist: Northam resigns, switches parties, then runs for Governor again next election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:28:09pm

re: #68 Eclectic Cyborg

Plot twist: Northam resigns, switches parties, then runs for Governor again next election.

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only if he nominates Roy Moore to be Lt Governor

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:28:44pm

re: #68 Eclectic Cyborg

Plot twist: Northam resigns, switches parties, then runs for Governor again next election.

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Hahaha. That would be weird but it wouldn’t happen. The funny thing though is, Republicans did try to get to get him to switch at one time back when the Senate was tied when Kaine was governor I believe.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:29:11pm

I see Roger Stone mentioned every so often as one of the guys that would pull off this revelation about Northam.

Wasn’t he thought to be behind the groping story of Al Franken? I’m remembering it that way.

But my point is, this all makes me think about what all Mueller is going to see when they go through all that data of Stone’s.

I’m thinking Stone has all kinds of info about his schemes on all his devices and computers. It will be interesting to see what comes of all that and what that opens up on down the road.

Imagine coming across direct info that ties Stone pulling the strings with the media to release the image and coaching the radio personality on how to tell her story.

Not saying they will, but I’m thinking Stone likes to keep memories of his deeds, like ordinary criminals like keepsakes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:29:52pm

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that was the “strategic moment” I was talking about

and of course Democrats founded the KKK, everybody knows they want to keep blacks on the plantation, etc…

And I think you’ll see that backfire given who Northam’s successor would be. This is also the state GOP that nominated Corey Stewart. Even some conservatives in this state see their state GOP for the hypocritical shit show they are.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:31:12pm

re: #71 ObserverArt

I see Roger Stone mentioned every so often as one of the guys that would pull off this revelation about Northam.

Wasn’t he though to be behind the groping story of Al Franken? I’m remembering it that way.

But my point is, this all makes me think about what all Mueller is going to see when they go through all that data of Stone’s.

I’m thinking Stone has all kinds of info about his schemes on all his devices and computers. It will be interesting to see what comes of all that and what that opens up on down the road.

Imagine coming across direct info that ties Stone pulling the strings with the media to release the image and coaching the radio personality on how to tell her story.

Not saying they will, but I’m thinking Stone likes to keep memories of his deeds, like ordinary criminals like keepsakes.

That gets me thinking about an alternative universe instead of being a serial killer, Ted Bundy just becomes another Roger Stone-Lee Atwater type.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:32:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:33:04pm

TBH there were some things about Northam that did some rub some in the activist wing the wrong way. As I mentioned, he was courted to switch parties at one point. He also admitted that he voted for Bush in 2004. Perriello’s campaign which as you all know I worked on mostly hit him on the Dominion issue. Ralph ultimately prevailed IMO because of his higher profile as Lt. Governor versus being a former one term Congressman and Planned Parenthood and this is no knock on them understandably backed him since he had the better record on choice.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:34:16pm

re: #74 Ace-o-aces

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Hmmm let’s see Sheriff Stupid Hat, Pelosi has called for him to resign, Tom Perez has, Congressional Va Dems have, and Democratic candidates have. You don’t get to be a holier than thou ashsole on this you hypocritical fucking turd burglar who did in fact defend Steve King.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:36:20pm

Oh and has Sheriff Stupidhat ever said one word about Steve Scalise and his David Duke love? Nope, didn’t think so.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:37:51pm
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jaunte  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:38:40pm

Speaking of murderous rage.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:39:03pm

re: #41 MsJ

I can’t express the murderous rage I feel right now.

Yes, I quit smoking again.

I’m fucking dangerous right now. My husband’s fearing for his survival.

Fuck. My. Life.

That is all.

Good luck! Sending extra willpower your way…

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:40:52pm

I go out for lunch and everything goes plaid wtf?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:41:15pm

If Northam were a Republican, I can tell you exactly what we would hear from the GOP and its lackeys. “You know ,it was a long time ago, you libs offend way too easily.” “Didya know that the Dems actually founded the KKK.” “Blackface isn’t racist.” I haven’t seen other than Dick Saslaw any excuses really made from elected Democrats on this. I’m pissed off at Northam yes but the GOP’s bullshit pisses me off too because they literally just nominated Corey Stewart not even a year ago for statewide office. Corey Stewart, a man who I think literally cries because of what happened at Appamatox Court House. A man whose immigration policy the Klan would actually support.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:41:43pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

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While Northam casually blackened his skin to emulate Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson was doing his best to escape the stigma of his skin color and facial features.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:41:55pm

I’m thinking Sheriff Clarke is an advanced Russian ‘bot.

He’s so programmed. And he does sound like a lot of the Russian ‘bot tweets and posts.

Who knows, maybe that is what happened with some of the Republican Senate. They have been replaced with robots programmed to be ultra-Republican.

You go to Mar-a-Lago or on a “golfing” trip with Trump and you get replaced. The real humans are all over in Russia.

Remember all those Republicans going to Russia on July the 4th. Watch ‘em.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:43:00pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

I’m thinking Sheriff Clarke is an advanced Russian ‘bot.

He’s so programmed. And he does sound like a lot of the Russian ‘bot tweets and posts.

Who knows, maybe that is what happened with some of the Republican Senate. They have been replaced with robots programmed to be ultra-Republican.

You go to Mar-a-Lago or on a “golfing” trip with Trump and you get replaced. The real humans are all over in Russia.

Remember all those Republicans going to Russia on July the 4th. Watch ‘em.

I-am-the-Conservatron2000,Low Taxes, Pro Family, Support the Troops, MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:43:49pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

If Northam were a Republican, I can tell you exactly what we would hear from the GOP and its lackeys. “You know ,it was a long time ago, you libs offend way too easily.” “Didya know that the Dems actually founded the KKK.” “Blackface isn’t racist.” I haven’t seen other than Dick Saslaw any excuses really made from elected Democrats on this. I’m pissed off at Northam yes but the GOP’s bullshit pisses me off too because they literally just nominated Corey Stewart not even a year ago for statewide office. Corey Stewart, a man who I think literally cries because of what happened at Appamatox Court House. A man whose immigration policy the Klan would actually support.

Yeah, this whole thing is so stupid. The GOP literally does not have a leg to stand on here because every time we point out their racist shitheads, they deflect and then accuse us of being the real racists.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:46:47pm

re: #86 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, this whole thing is so stupid. The GOP literally does not have a leg to stand on here because every time we point out their racist shitheads, they deflect and then accuse us of being the real racists.

And they are constantly when their shitheads are accused “Well what would happen if a Democrat did.” Well you are seeing exactly that and they’re still doing this shit. The party whose chairman actually apologized for offending Rush Limbaugh after criticizing the Southern Strategy has no room to stand on this. The party of Donald Trump and Birtherism. The Party who has in its House Leadership, a man who pledged to be David Duke without the baggage and has never expressed any regret for that should stfu and let the Dems do our own house cleaning but they won’t because that’s what right wingers are, hypocritical assholes.

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jaunte  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:46:57pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:47:06pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

I’m thinking Sheriff Clarke is an advanced Russian ‘bot….

Wears as much bling as a Soviet tractor factory manager.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:48:50pm

re: #88 jaunte

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They sat on their hands and did nothing when he went after a Mexican-American judge. I’m sure Judge Curiel hasn’t forgoten how Trump called him a Mexican and called his Red Hatted buffoons in arms.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:49:15pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Wears as much bling as a Soviet tractor factory manager.

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He is the glorious people’s sheriff of the people’s commissariat of Milwaukee.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:50:10pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

I’m thinking Sheriff Clarke is an advanced Russian ‘bot.

He’s so programmed. And he does sound like a lot of the Russian ‘bot tweets and posts.

Who knows, maybe that is what happened with some of the Republican Senate. They have been replaced with robots programmed to be ultra-Republican.

You go to Mar-a-Lago or on a “golfing” trip with Trump and you get replaced. The real humans are all over in Russia.

Remember all those Republicans going to Russia on July the 4th. Watch ‘em.

Hypnosis is a possibility.

half /

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A Cranky One  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:52:04pm

Okay lizards, we’ve argued about pineapple on pizza. What about sauerkraut?

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jaunte  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:52:40pm

re: #93 A Cranky One

Nein!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:53:10pm

re: #93 A Cranky One

Okay lizards, we’ve argued about pineapple on pizza. What about sauerkraut?

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I’d say no. I love kraut. You are what you eat after all but nah not on pizza. On sausage though. Divine.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:53:48pm

re: #94 jaunte

Nein!

Doc Lizardo has told me that his Czech hosts like corn on their pizza. Doesn’t make any sense to me!

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jaunte  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:54:47pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

It probably wouldn’t make it quite as soggy as the kraut.

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:55:08pm

Last night, I wanted to give Northam a chance to explain himself and possibly atone for his mistake.

He’s done neither, so I withdraw my objections to seeing him out on his ass.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2019 • 2:56:27pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

Who knows, maybe that is what happened with some of the Republican Senate. They have been replaced with robots programmed to be ultra-Republican.

You go to Mar-a-Lago or on a “golfing” trip with Trump and you get replaced. The real humans are all over in Russia.

Remember all those Republicans going to Russia on July the 4th. Watch ‘em.

OMG! We’ll call them the Stepford Senators.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:00:05pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

Well, he denied that is him in the photo… that was something I guess.

I think so much is coming to the surface these days that Americans are going to stop caring. Maybe they already have.

We shouldn’t confuse twitter feeds with the actual electorate.

I fear that Americans are being turned off from actual civil engagement - twitter is not civil engagement - by which I mean actually being involved in local governance.

This last election did show a swell of anti-Trump voters turn out… and that made a difference. But a bigger difference was needed - see the Senate balance of power.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:00:22pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

Last night, I wanted to give Northam a chance to explain himself and possibly atone for his mistake.

He’s done neither, so I withdraw my objections to seeing him out on his ass.

I’m really disappointed in how he’s handled it.

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:00:43pm

re: #93 A Cranky One

Okay lizards, we’ve argued about pineapple on pizza. What about sauerkraut?

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:02:28pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

Last night, I wanted to give Northam a chance to explain himself and possibly atone for his mistake.

He’s done neither, so I withdraw my objections to seeing him out on his ass.

Yes, he definitely needs to step down and be gracious about it. Too bad that this is how his political career ends.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:03:53pm

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

Yes, he definitely needs to step down and be gracious about it. Too bad that this is how his political career ends.

Yeah I didn’t see him as VP material or anything like that but he potentially could have been a good HHS Sec due to his experience as both a doctor and governor.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:04:43pm

re: #102 TedStriker

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You think that’s bad? My dad is an anchovie guy and I can’t even deny parentage.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:05:40pm

re: #93 A Cranky One

Okay lizards, we’ve argued about pineapple on pizza. What about sauerkraut?

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no

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:06:10pm

re: #106 makeitstop

no

Nein, nein, nein

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:08:15pm

4 more minutes and I get to see how my first attempt at a turkey in the instant pot comes out.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:08:21pm

Bratwurst on pizza? Ja worthy of consideration.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:09:17pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

Except Putin isn’t going to risk having the real ones escape. In this scenario the originals are probably sitting somewhere near Osama bin Laden.

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A Cranky One  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:13:10pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Nein, nein, nein

Trying to conjure Herman Cain?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:13:49pm

re: #93 A Cranky One

Okay lizards, we’ve argued about pineapple on pizza. What about sauerkraut?

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I’ve seen the Reuben pizza with Corned Beef and Sauerkraut on it.

The only place where Corned Beef and Sauerkraut are properly paired is when they are placed between two slices of Corn Rye and seared to perfection with lots of imported Swiss Cheese!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:14:36pm

re: #111 A Cranky One

Trying to conjure Herman Cain?

I didn’t say it in a mirror. We’re safe.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:15:15pm

re: #41 MsJ

I can’t express the murderous rage I feel right now.

Yes, I quit smoking again.

I’m fucking dangerous right now. My husband’s fearing for his survival.

Fuck. My. Life.

That is all.

Have you tried vaping?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:15:24pm

re: #112 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve seen the Reuben pizza with Corned Beef and Sauerkraut on it.

The only place where Corned Beef and Sauerkraut are properly paired is when they are placed between two slices of Corn Rye and seared to perfection.

Precisely.

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:15:48pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

I didn’t say it in a mirror. We’re safe.

Cain’s like Beetlejuice more than Candyman….we’re surely fucked now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:17:10pm

re: #116 TedStriker

Cain’s like Beetlejuice more than Candyman….we’re surely fucked now.

Crap.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:17:24pm

re: #112 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve seen the Reuben pizza with Corned Beef and Sauerkraut on it.

The only place where Corned Beef and Sauerkraut are properly paired is when they are placed between two slices of Corn Rye and seared to perfection.

I’ve done a Philly cheesesteak pizza before, which was okay. Much better is a chicken bacon ranch pizza. Yum.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:18:35pm

THIS is the proper pairing of Corned Beef, Sauerkraut, Russian Dressing and Swiss cheese!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:19:49pm

re: #119 Joe Bacon 🌹

THIS is the proper pairing of Corned Beef, Sauerkraut, Russian Dressing and Swiss cheese!

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I think I died and went to deli heaven. That thing better come with some nice salty chips and a juicy pickle too.

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William Lewis  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:21:09pm

re: #93 A Cranky One

Okay lizards, we’ve argued about pineapple on pizza. What about sauerkraut?

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With sliced brats?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:21:58pm

re: #121 William Lewis

With sliced brats?

Ein bier, ein kraut, ein sausage.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:24:03pm

Remember the time I was introduced to the Sloppy Joe sandwich when I was in New Jersey!

Double decker Rye with two kinds of deli meat, Swiss cheese, Cole slaw.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:24:46pm

re: #119 Joe Bacon 🌹

THIS is the proper pairing of Corned Beef, Sauerkraut, Russian Dressing and Swiss cheese!

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I love corned beef, but I have a hard time with the sauerkraut on the Reuben.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:25:33pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Ein bier, ein kraut, ein sausage.

So…ein, ein, ein? :)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:27:19pm

re: #125 makeitstop

So…ein, ein, ein? :)

Ja, ja, ja.(I was actually mocking the Nazis. They had a line about one nation, one people, one fuehrer.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:28:45pm

Y’all got me sandwich hungry now.

Remember the original Pittsburgh Turkey Devonshire sandwich—with the bacon strips on top. (And a Pittsburgher would have to use Irish Brand Bacon)!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:29:15pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Ja, ja, ja.(I was actually mocking the Nazis. They had a line about one nation, one people, one fuehrer.

I got the joke. It was a good one.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:29:40pm

re: #127 Joe Bacon 🌹

Y’all got me sandwich hungry now.

Remember the original Pittsburgh Turkey Devonshire sandwich—with the bacon strips on top. (And a Pittsburgher would have to use Irish Brand Bacon)!

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Pittsburghers know how to make a sandwich.

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:30:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:30:48pm

re: #128 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I got the joke. It was a good one.

I sure could go for those brats I had in Nuremberg. Soooo good and inexpensive too. Great bread too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:31:21pm

re: #127 Joe Bacon 🌹

Y’all got me sandwich hungry now.

Remember the original Pittsburgh Turkey Devonshire sandwich—with the bacon strips on top. (And a Pittsburgher would have to use Irish Brand Bacon)!

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One of the things that the Mrs. Fish introduced me to is something I’ve heard referred to as a “toad in the hole” - a piece of bread, with the center cut out, slathered in butter, then fried in a pan with an egg dropped into the hole. My kids call it “eggs in the middle of bread”, and apparently, I make it like a boss. Mrs. Fish even told me she had a craving for it this afternoon, so for lunch, before doing my oil changes, I busted out my favorite nonstick pan and the butter knife.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:32:13pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Pittsburghers know how to make a sandwich.

Happy, you ain’t a complete person until you’ve encountered the nirvana of a Primanti Brothers Pastrami Sandwich!

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:32:20pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Pittsburghers know how to make a sandwich.

Yeah, but how does one go about eating an openfaced sandwich anyhow? Would seem to defeat the purpose of making them hand-friendly to me…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:32:52pm

re: #134 Chrysicat

Yeah, but how does one go about eating an openfaced sandwich anyhow? Would seem to defeat the purpose of making them hand-friendly to me…

Use a fork, you uncultured barbarian.

/half

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:34:26pm

re: #133 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, you ain’t a complete person until you’ve encountered the nirvana of a Primanti Brothers Pastrami Sandwich!

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Oh I know Primantis all right :). Heavenly.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:35:46pm

Primanti’s > Pat/Genos in Philly. Sorry not sorry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:38:53pm

since y’all are talking food:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:39:56pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

since y’all are talking food:

I’ve known about fake “wasabi” for some time now. Still eat it. Still tasty.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:40:55pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

since y’all are talking food:

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Nooooo

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:41:41pm

re: #139 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’ve known about fake “wasabi” for some time now. Still eat it. Still tasty.

Green colored horseradish right?

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BigPapa  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:42:43pm

I have 2lbs of NY slaughtered cow under sous vide for 30 hours with herbs, garlic

1.5 lbs of hangar steak trimmings under 4 hrs sous vide marinated in shisito peppers and mushrooms

Browned together with bacon fat, pan deglazed with a meritage, all under a low and slow simmer. Will drop in onion, carrot, mushrooms, maybe elephant garlic if they have it.

Served with a hot pugliese for dipping and swabbing.

And more wine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:43:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:45:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:46:15pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is he going to ask Trump and Pence to resign too and the majority of his caucus?

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:46:49pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

GOP: We said “past” racist behavior. Current behavior is OK.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:46:51pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Green colored horseradish right?

Correct.

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:48:12pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Translation: “We don’t give a damn he’s a racist, we just want him gone because he’s a ‘baby-killer!’”

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:48:45pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

House Minority Leader says politicians should resign for their past racist behavior, putting pressure on noted White Supremacist and current @GOP Minority Whip @SteveScalise, aka “David Duke without the baggage” #ResignSteveScalise washingtonpost.com

— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) February 2, 2019

Not only Scalise, but McConnell too (at the very least), which is why this will goes absolutely nowhere with the Congressional GOPers.

Fuck, the only reason why McCarthy’s even saying this is in the hope of flushing out more Democrats, I guarantee it.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:49:43pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Primanti’s > Pat/Genos in Philly. Sorry not sorry.

Easy, killer… :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:49:52pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:51:55pm

re: #149 TedStriker

Not only Scalise, but McConnell too (at the very least), which is why this will goes absolutely nowhere with the Congressional GOPers.

Fuck, the only reason why McCarthy’s even saying this is in the hope of flushing out more Democrats, I guarantee it.

Not even. This is literally just political grandstanding. The Republican racists know he’s not talking to them, he’s just posturing to avoid saying the quiet part out loud.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:52:52pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Holy shit, I forgot about that too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:54:06pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Holy shit, I forgot about that too.

VA GOP is nothing if not inconsistent…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:54:43pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

VA GOP is nothing if not inconsistent…

I know it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:57:07pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:57:43pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:58:15pm

re: #157 Interesting Times

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AOC is a leader.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:58:56pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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America 2019.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 3:59:10pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

AOC is a leader.

She is a right and proper badass and I have been nothing less than impressed by her. You go, girl.

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plansbandc  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:05:18pm

re: #93 A Cranky One

I’m good with it on anything that’s savory. Love the stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:13:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:15:22pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Be nice to see Putin have to worry about losing his own power rather than trying to screw others.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:16:25pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

The poll results are unsurprising, given that Russia is widely considered one of the most alcoholic countries on the planet. They drink because they’re depressed.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:17:57pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Be nice to see Putin have to worry about losing his own power rather than trying to screw others.

Russia could use a wealth tax to spread some of that filthy lucre their oligarchs have amassed. Russia is the future the GOP wants for us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:19:44pm

the snark is great in this one

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:26:44pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

since y’all are talking food:

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Hate to sound like a know-it-all, but this is common knowledge. Real wasabi is very difficult to obtain and really expensive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:34:30pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:35:28pm

Probably “a senior official familiar with the President’s game said” (for fuck’s sake, this source is absolutely Trump himself; did anyone ever really worry about the quality of Obama’s game?):

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Dave In Austin  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:37:00pm

Ha…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:38:21pm

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

Probably “a senior official familiar with the President’s game said” (for fuck’s sake, this source is absolutely Trump himself; did anyone ever really worry about the quality of Obama’s game?):

Trump cheats at golf. Everyone knows this. Come on.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:39:50pm

re: #170 Dave In Austin

Ha…

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Well he’s not wrong. And Dave, your brother’s history alone should have you shutting up about anything with race.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:40:32pm

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

Probably “a senior official familiar with the President’s game said” (for fuck’s sake, this source is absolutely Trump himself; did anyone ever really worry about the quality of Obama’s game?):

We know this ass whined every time Obama played golf.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:40:44pm

re: #171 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Trump cheats at golf. Everyone knows this. Come on.

I can’t lose Monty. They’ll eat me alive.
Hey I wonder if this Homer Nixon is any relation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:42:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:44:18pm
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:47:02pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmm. That is odd. This is because I was looking at Macy’s and checking out their sale on bedding and I was also looking at LLBean. And even more unusual I just got Consumer Reports and they rated LLBean’s Percale Sheets as Very Good.

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:54:27pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Survive an earthquake only to die of a heart attack when you wake up in a damned coffin.

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plansbandc  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:55:05pm

Watching Russian Doll on Netflix and it’s a trip. Also, very amusing. I highly recommend it.

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BigPapa  Feb 2, 2019 • 4:57:22pm

The bed helps you survive the earthquake only to prolong your death since it’s covered in debris and you can’t get out.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:01:46pm

It’s dessert time. Got to visit the Cookie Pusher!

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:03:05pm

re: #181 Joe Bacon 🌹

I already have a box of Thin Mints in my fridge.

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:03:16pm

re: #181 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s dessert time. Got to visit the Cookie Pusher!

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First hit’s always free…

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:05:47pm

Two new developments in dog:

1) Our rescue dog is a major puller on walks. We were encouraged by the trainer we signed on with to get a two-point harness. I bought it a week ago. At first she ran under the dining-room table to get away from it. Then she would flatten herself on the floor so that it couldn’t be put around her. On the advice of our trainer, we held the harness in one hand and offered peanut butter in the other. Some peanut butter got on the harness. Over the course of the week she would seek the harness to lick. So, today she finally sat still for the harness. Yay! It was amazing to walk her without the pulling.

2) About a month ago, due to my wife’s complaints about her smell, I gave the dog a bath. I bathed her in our only tub on the second floor of our townhouse. It was a huge pain the ass, but once she was under the warm water she was ok. She avoids that room, but has no problem following me upstairs, and when I close the door to our bedroom, she sleeps at the top of the stairs waiting for me to come out. But once we started talking “bath” she has been reticent. I tried to lure her upstairs with a favorite treat. She took it from my hand and ran downstairs immediately. I came downstairs offering another treat and she flattened herself on the floor, refusing to take the bribe. She clearly read something to know that we were bribing her to do something she ordinarily wouldn’t want to do.

Dogs can be stupid, but they can also be pretty damn smart.

Lesson: I would guess dogs in general, but our dog remembers traumatic experiences and it will take a lot to change negative associations with positive associations.

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:09:04pm

Amusing mental image: Pack of Girl Scouts surrounding and beating up a guy, while one stands off to the side going “Where’s my money? I gave you that box of Thin Mints, now I want my money!”

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:14:19pm
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Single-handed sailor  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:17:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:19:24pm

The rain got real heavy between 12 and 2 in my section of Los Angeles. Windy to the point the windows were shaking!

Looks like we now have a break for a little while

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:21:28pm

re: #188 Joe Bacon 🌹

The rain got real heavy between 12 and 2 in my section of Los Angeles. Windy to the point the windows were shaking!

Looks like we now have a break for a little while

We had that on Tuesday night, the first night of the deep bitter cold. I could understand where the -60 degrees F wind chill came from, with the wind gusting upwards of 30 mph.

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:24:55pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

Amusing mental image: Pack of Girl Scouts surrounding and beating up a guy, while one stands off to the side going “Where’s my money? I gave you that box of Thin Mints, now I want my money!”

WHERE’S MY MONEY!? The full story of the bet!!! FAMILY GUY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:26:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:28:09pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the only thing wrong with was that Gillespie lost, got it Dumbald.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:30:53pm

Oh and President Corey Stewart fan should stfu.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:30:58pm

so says the moron who can’t ever remember what he said 2 minutes ago…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:32:32pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

so says the moron who can’t ever remember what he said 2 minutes ago…

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You contradict yourself during your monologues to your cult.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:33:58pm

Super late term abortion?

What, does Marvel have abortion superheroes now?

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:35:13pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Super late term abortion?

What, does Marvel have abortion superheroes now?

Team Abortus, No fetus will beat us!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:37:34pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:38:38pm

This must be related to some dumb wingnutisms spewing about infaticide….. Assholes

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:39:43pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:41:36pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Assholieini is going to keep hitting those balls till he gets it right!

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ipsos  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:44:06pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just sticking a pin in here to remind everyone that the reason Northam is suddenly in the news right now is precisely because he’s being ratfucked by Roy Moore-affiliated ratfuckers who dropped it into the public eye this weekend to try to keep his abortion legislation from passing.

It may well be that it’s so damaging that he can’t stay in office. I’ll leave that to people who are actually in Virginia (and especially to people who are actually in Virginia and who aren’t white and privileged) to decide whether he’s political toast.

But I think when passions cool a little, we’re going to look back on this and wonder why we allowed his career to be ended so abruptly by people who have seriously shitty ulterior motives.

Maybe we’ll even wonder why we as Democrats let ourselves get manipulated like this over and over again (cf. Franken, Al), while the other side lets its racists just keep chugging along (cf. King, Steve). I suppose the Florida SoS is the one big exception so far - but his blackface incident was pretty recent, no?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:46:25pm

re: #202 ipsos

I’ve said all along that this has Roger Stone’s fingerprints all over it to tank the ERA and the abortion rights bill.

We now know that Stone was behind the ratfucking that drove Al Franken out of office.

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gwangung  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:46:53pm

re: #202 ipsos

Maybe we’ll even wonder why we as Democrats let ourselves get manipulated like this over and over again (cf. Franken, Al), while the other side lets its racists just keep chugging along (cf. King, Steve). I suppose the Florida SoS is the one big exception so far - but his blackface incident was pretty recent, no?

No. Over a decade ago.

And, sorry….but the Klan is kinda existential to the black community, and blackface is not much better. The wonder is why white Democrats are taking these things so lightly.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:47:15pm

re: #203 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve said all along that this has Roger Stone’s fingerprints all over it to tank the ERA and the abortion rights bill.

We now know that Stone was behind the ratfucking that drove Al Franken out of office.

For which he has earned my eternal enmity. I liked Al Franken. Roger Stone can fuck himself repeatedly with a rusty spork.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:48:00pm

Just a reminder of what a tolerant asshole President Shithead is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:49:12pm

re: #204 gwangung

No. Over a decade ago.

And, sorry….but the Klan is kinda existential to the black community, and blackface is not much better. The wonder is why white Democrats are taking these things so lightly.

First, it’s not my impression that they are taking it lightly. Second, the nature of privilege even among well meaning people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:51:27pm

re: #207 Blind Frog Belly White

Also the desire of people in positions of power to not want to give them up.

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jaunte  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:51:40pm

re: #200 Joe Bacon 🌹

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:51:54pm

So this accused felon is being cheered by worshipful fans.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:53:18pm

re: #209 jaunte

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He doesn’t even seem that bothered by the content of the photo. Yeah he calls it disgusting but his whole thing seems to be if only Gillespie had found it, he would have won. That’s not the fucking issue here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:55:01pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

He doesn’t even seem that bothered by the content of the photo. Yeah he calls it disgusting but his whole thing seems to be if only Gillespie had found it, he would have won. That’s not the fucking issue here.

Of course he’s not bothered by it. He thinks this whole thing is ridiculous - “Political correctness is killing us!”

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:55:34pm

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

They see it as a badge of honor.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:55:38pm

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

So this accused felon is being cheered by worshipful fans.

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And that evil CENSORED knows that when he’s convicted Trump will pardon him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:56:13pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

Of course he’s not bothered by it. He thinks this whole thing is ridiculous - “Political correctness is killing us!”

Make no mistake about this, if Northam were a Republican, he would be complaining about how unfair the media is being to Northam and calling the people calling for his resignation names. This whole thing is all about a lost governor’s race to him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:58:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 5:59:25pm

The likely candidate for my delegate seat called for Ralph Northam to resign too. Personally, I think the Democrats here are handling it well. They’re not doing the Republican tactic of it’s okay if it’s our party. And I think that should scare the shit out of any GOP opps researcher attempting to use this to attack Democrats.

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:00:15pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

He doesn’t even seem that bothered by the content of the photo. Yeah he calls it disgusting but his whole thing seems to be if only Gillespie had found it, he would have won. That’s not the fucking issue here.

Thing is, even in 1984, cosplaying in blackface or Klan garb was not only racist af, but it was very visible backlash against black folks and the civil rights fights of the 50s-70s IMO, something that was still in very recent memory. If Northam was indeed involved in that shit, then he should resign as governor and slink off out of politics, because it was just as wrong when he did it as it is now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:01:14pm

re: #218 TedStriker

Thing is, even in 1984, cosplaying in blackface or Klan garb was not only racist af, but it was very visible backlash against black folks and the civil rights fights of the 50s-70s IMO, something that was still in very recent memory. If Northam was indeed involved in that shit, then he should resign as governor and slink off out of politics, because it was as wrong when he did it as it is now.

Agreed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:01:59pm
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William Lewis  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:02:14pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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While true, that’s not the driver here - the driver is destroying NATO and it’s ability to stand in the way of Comrade Putin’s desires. He told his puppet what to do and he’s doing it. Same with the wag the dog in Venezuela to pretend they aren’t working together.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:03:00pm

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

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Hi Donald Trump, Jr, meet your father Donald Trump, Sr who tried to deny it was him on the Access Hollywood tape. Fuck you, you ignorant little fuck nugget.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:13:22pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:15:59pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:22:27pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Also Trump: I supported the guy who is a time traveler from 1861 Richmond.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:22:43pm

Just go the fuck away.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:23:28pm

re: #226 The Vicious Babushka

Just go the fuck away.

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Paaaaaaaaaaaaass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:31:17pm

oh…

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:32:39pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:35:51pm

re: #226 The Vicious Babushka

Just go the fuck away.

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Did she mention that the Russian trolls are in full attack mode for her?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:36:00pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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Jesus f’ing Christ.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:36:27pm

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

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Holy shit, that’s scary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:36:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:37:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:38:45pm

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:39:25pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Headdesk
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Interesting Times  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:42:29pm
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Belafon  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:43:36pm

re: #202 ipsos

You might want to read the previous thread for a discussion about this.

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teleskiguy  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:44:18pm

totes normal

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:46:55pm

re: #239 teleskiguy

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totes normal

Yeah but it was cold somewhere so you know climate change is a lie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:49:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:50:39pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He really is going to be screwing himself big time if he continues to dig in like this.

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:51:18pm

I’ve been playing this song a lot today for some reason; funny how (rich) white privilege hasn’t changed all that much in the past forty-five years since Joel first released the song to savage that privilege (possibly NSFW for drug and sexual references, though it’s pretty damn tame these days):

Captain Jack - Billy Joel

TBH, it’s one of my faves from Joel; it’s also the song that got him his first major label deal with Columbia.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:51:36pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

He really is going to be screwing himself big time if he continues to dig in like this.

I get the feeling he won’t be just screwing himself the longer this goes on.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:52:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:52:48pm

re: #244 Citizen K

I get the feeling he won’t be just screwing himself the longer this goes on.

That’s really what I’m worried about. Fortunately nearly every Virginia Democrat has spoken out against him. I was very happy that our likely nominee for House of Delegates, who I know personally has.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:54:49pm

Every Dem in the legislature is up this fall. Every last one of them. It’s very easy for Northam to act like he’ll stay and fight when it won’t be his ass on the line.

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rhuarc  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:55:24pm

re: #239 teleskiguy

Wednesday/Thursday was not fun here! Today was nice, though. Now all of the snow we have on the ground and our roof is starting to melt and cause some problems.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:55:33pm

I’m not saying step down for the party. I’m sayign step down because this state is bigger than you, Governor Northam.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 6:58:23pm

And of course Shaun King wants us to “thank” Bernie because “Bernie was right about Northam.” Uh no, he refused to back him because of economic reasons. Not reasons that had anything to do with his views on social issue. As a former Perriello campaigner, it enrages me that King is trying to use this to pull a Bernie was right card when Bernie has his own history of racial insensitivity. If you want to argue, we should have nominated Tom, I’m there with you, I supported him, campaigned for him, and even met him. But it’s got jack shit to do with Bernie.

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teleskiguy  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:00:23pm

Blast from the (very recent) past.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:01:44pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

Blast from the (very recent) past.

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Well if your personality is anything like it is now, that probably played a role in it as well.

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:01:47pm

re: #250 HappyWarrior

And of course Shaun King wants us to “thank” Bernie because “Bernie was right about Northam.” Uh no, he refused to back him because of economic reasons. Not reasons that had anything to do with his views on social issue. As a former Perriello campaigner, it enrages me that King is trying to use this to pull a Bernie was right card when Bernie has his own history of racial insensitivity. If you want to argue, we should have nominated Tom, I’m there with you, I supported him, campaigned for him, and even met him. But it’s got jack shit to do with Bernie.

Shitheads gonna shit…on everybody.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:03:31pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

Blast from the (very recent) past.

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Let me guess…he then went to the video store to try and figure out why…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:04:33pm

re: #253 TedStriker

Shitheads gonna shit…on everybody.

The media desperately wanted to make Tom versus Ralph as Bernie wing versus establishment wing. It wasn’t. Tom in fact was endorsed by John Podesta , Neera Tanden, and Valerie Jarrett. He did have mostly support by the state establishment Dems which well made sense, Northam was Lt. Governor and a former member of the State Senate and thus probably had more relationships with the people there.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:05:28pm

Tom to his credit btw isn’t doing the “You should have nominated me” act, he’s like many of us here who voted for Northam. He’s disgusted and disappointed.

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mmmirele  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:07:10pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

the snark is great in this one

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Speaking of Massachusetts and opioids, here’s the unredacted 277 page lawsuit by the state of Massachusetts against Purdue Pharma, the Sackler family, and various other stooges of the Sacklers. Richard Sackler comes off as a particular asshat for wanting to do all sorts of things to increase the sales of OxyContin.

documentcloud.org

You could just leaf through it, dip in it every now and then and get an idea of how awful the impact has been on Massachusetts. Purdue Pharma’s goal was not merely to sell their opioids, but to encourage doctors to increase doses. Even when it looked like the patient was addicted, Purdue called it “pseudoaddiction” and advised doctors to increase the dose.

I am not familiar with Massachusetts’ case law regarding deceptive trade practices and public nuisance (!), but the lawsuit is itself an eye-opener.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:08:46pm

re: #257 mmmirele

Speaking of Massachusetts and opioids, here’s the unredacted 277 page lawsuit by the state of Massachusetts against Purdue Pharma, the Sackler family, and various other stooges of the Sacklers. Richard Sackler comes off as a particular asshat for wanting to do all sorts of things to increase the sales of OxyContin.

documentcloud.org

You could just leaf through it, dip in it every now and then and get an idea of how awful the impact has been on Massachusetts. Purdue Pharma’s goal was not merely to sell their opioids, but to encourage doctors to increase doses. Even when it looked like the patient was addicted, Purdue called it “pseudoaddiction” and advised doctors to increase the dose.

I am not familiar with Massachusetts’ case law regarding deceptive trade practices and public nuisance (!), but the lawsuit is itself an eye-opener.

My Dad and I were talking about that. Scary shit. And this honestly is why we need that wariness towards capitalism that people like AOC, Warren, and yeah I’ll throw the old man a bone here, Bernie do.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:13:48pm

re: #257 mmmirele

I want any Republican to tell me how a wall will prevent Purdue for forcing doctors to overprescribe opioids.

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Charmingly Persistent  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:18:00pm

Not only should Northam resign, I believe (unlike most here) that Al Franken did the right thing by resigning as well. The fact that opposition research found things out and produced them in order to harm the pols doesn’t change my mind. Northam was a racist blackface wearer (at best!), and Al, sad as I am to say it, was a groper and needed to leave.

I am sad to say that about Al. I loved the guy since I read Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, and I was always impressed by his heart and intelligence and thought he was very good at his job. But there were far too many stories about him, some of them told contemporaneously, for me to believe it was all made up by Roger Stone. The fact that Al chose to resign tells me that he knew flat denial of everything would not fly - because at least some of it was true. Bill Clinton got away with groping - a lot of politicians used to. But they shouldn’t have, and now not as many will.

It is true that Democrats resign when Republicans don’t. In some ways this is a weakness, but I think in the long run it is more of a strength. Democrats have to actually care about their most important constituencies (women and people of color) or what are we for? We already have a party to throw crumbs at their base in order to protect the money and power of their actual constituency.

Furthermore, we know, and politicians certainly know, that opposition research is a thing. If they have crappy stuff in their past, they might be able to work though it and get forgiveness - but not by waiting until they are caught red-handed. Forgiveness comes from understanding the harm you did, and changing, and making up for it where you can. (They might also not be forgiven even if they do all that. That is a risk you take when you do crappy things).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:18:02pm

re: #259 Joe Bacon 🌹

I want any Republican to tell me how a wall will prevent Purdue for forcing doctors to overprescribe opioids.

They can’t.

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Charmingly Persistent  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:21:13pm

re: #257 mmmirele

Purdue Pharma’s goal was not merely to sell their opioids, but to encourage doctors to increase doses. Even when it looked like the patient was addicted, Purdue called it “pseudoaddiction” and advised doctors to increase the dose.

A better example of lawful evil has rarely been seen.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:21:26pm

The party that is infested with politicians who practice their racism today, that supports Robert E. Lee, the Confederate flag, Confederate monuments, and minority voter purges today, and not 35 years ago, is the one that should be under constant attack and that should have its members forced to leave office.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:24:49pm

re: #260 Charmingly Persistent

Not only should Northam resign, I believe (unlike most here) that Al Franken did the right thing by resigning as well. The fact that opposition research found things out and produced them in order to harm the pols doesn’t change my mind. Northam was a racist blackface wearer (at best!), and Al, sad as I am to say it, was a groper and needed to leave.

I am sad to say that about Al. I loved the guy since I read Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, and I was always impressed by his heart and intelligence and thought he was very good at his job. But there were far too many stories about him, some of them told contemporaneously, for me to believe it was all made up by Roger Stone. The fact that Al chose to resign tells me that he knew flat denial of everything would not fly - because at least some of it was true. Bill Clinton got away with groping - a lot of politicians used to. But they shouldn’t have, and now not as many will.

It is true that Democrats resign when Republicans don’t. In some ways this is a weakness, but I think in the long run it is more of a strength. Democrats have to actually care about their most important constituencies (women and people of color) or what are we for? We already have a party to throw crumbs at their base in order to protect the money and power of their actual constituency.

Furthermore, we know, and politicians certainly know, that opposition research is a thing. If they have crappy stuff in their past, they might be able to work though it and get forgiveness - but not by waiting until they are caught red-handed. Forgiveness comes from understanding the harm you did, and changing, and making up for it where you can. (They might also not be forgiven even if they do all that. That is a risk you take when you do crappy things).

I think the bolded is the best I’ve ever read on what forgiveness actually is. Very well stated and I happen to agree with you on Franken and I felt the same disappointment. Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot was one of the first political books I read and I was genuinely eating crow because I was unsure about Al as a Senator but he had shown himself to be a serious Senator. And I too read about other stories. Northam for me on a personal level hurts a little since he’s my governor after all and I did campaign for him. I feel a little betrayed because I genuinely felt he was a better man than Ed Gillespie is. Now, I’m not so sure. Not just because of the incident in question but because of his actions today. Doesn’t mean Gillespie is good news obviously either and it is wrong to suggest that this in any way vindicates Gillespie.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:26:59pm

re: #263 Hecuba’s daughter

The party that is infested with politicians who practice their racism today, that supports Robert E. Lee, the Confederate flag, Confederate monuments, and minority voter purges today, and not 35 years ago, is the one that should be under constant attack and that should have its members forced to leave office.

I was really disappointed at the time Northam didn’t give a condemnation of Lee and his legacy. It unfortunately wasn’t the first time he had let Fairfax out in the cold like that. Something happened during the campaign too and it was dismissed as just politics since the group that Northam was trying to get to vote for him was a little hostile to Fairfax because he opposed the pipeline that the Union and Northam supported.

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vgranucci  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:33:14pm

re: #41 MsJ

I can’t express the murderous rage I feel right now.

Yes, I quit smoking again.

I’m fucking dangerous right now. My husband’s fearing for his survival.

Fuck. My. Life.

That is all.

Good luck to you. Patches helped me cut down, buproprion (Wellbutrin) finally helped me quit. Check with your doctor.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:40:23pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:44:30pm

re: #257 mmmirele

Speaking of Massachusetts and opioids, here’s the unredacted 277 page lawsuit by the state of Massachusetts against Purdue Pharma, the Sackler family, and various other stooges of the Sacklers. Richard Sackler comes off as a particular asshat for wanting to do all sorts of things to increase the sales of OxyContin.

documentcloud.org

You could just leaf through it, dip in it every now and then and get an idea of how awful the impact has been on Massachusetts. Purdue Pharma’s goal was not merely to sell their opioids, but to encourage doctors to increase doses. Even when it looked like the patient was addicted, Purdue called it “pseudoaddiction” and advised doctors to increase the dose.

I am not familiar with Massachusetts’ case law regarding deceptive trade practices and public nuisance (!), but the lawsuit is itself an eye-opener.

A few years ago, I ranted here on how I blamed the pharmaceutical industry for the opioid epidemic. Certainly seems that the states may finally be pursuing the true villains underlying this scourge. Unfortunately it looks like the punishment will be financial in nature; the only way to stop criminal behavior by executives is to imprison them.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:46:19pm

re: #260 Charmingly Persistent

And I continue to think that nothing Frankin did rose to the level that should have required his resignation, and we shouldn’t demand that public figures have met today’s standards before they were standards… but we’ve been over this before and nothing will be gained by going over it again.

As to Nordham, I could actually forgive him the blackface (believe it or not, I had no idea until a couple of years ago that blackface was anything but a relic of vaudeville, now long dead, and thus wouldn’t have “got” the issue), but not the klan costume. No-one can claim ignorance about that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:48:13pm

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

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Perriello really is one of the most genuinely decent people you’ll meet in politics. I hated that his campaign was reduced to just being the representative of the Bernie wing because he is so much more than just a guy who was backed by Bernie over Northam. He’s a guy who voted for ACA even though it hurt his chances at re-election, stood by it, and after he was unfortunately beaten served his country in the Obama State Department in Africa. He’s a kind and intelligent man that I gladly voted for because he truly was the embodiment of the Virginia I was raised in. I seriously hope he seeks office again.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:49:47pm

re: #262 Charmingly Persistent

A better example of lawful evil has rarely been seen.

Another is kids rationing their insulin because the price has been jacked up so high just because they can.

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retired cynic  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:50:30pm

re: #271 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Another is kids rationing their insulin because the price has been jacked up so high just because they can.

ANYone rationing their insulin….

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:51:42pm

re: #271 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Another is kids rationing their insulin because the price has been jacked up so high just because they can.

We need to adopt the practices of other first world nations by controlling the price of medication.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 7:52:05pm

There was a beautiful story that Tom’s mother related to us when I met her with other volunteers. Tom was a hyperactive kid. He probably would be diagnosed with ADD today. His Mom related that Tom even though he was only 10-11 years old understood that he was just seen as a hyperactive kid whereas a kid of color wouldn’t get that same benefit of the doubt and understanding. And the guy doesn’t give cookie cutter answers. He’ll answer your questions sincerely and give an answer. He’s obviously not a saint but there was a reason why a former one term Congressman did get a lot of excitement and got not only my vote but my time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2019 • 8:07:13pm

I wonder if the shutdown had anything to do with the TSA agent suicide?

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ckkatz  Feb 2, 2019 • 8:35:26pm

For me, as a Virginia voter, the Northam fiasco has brought up a number of issues that I am currently wrestling with.

1. When is political redemption possible?
2. When is nullifying someone’s vote wrong?
3. What are the implications and consequences of nullifying someone’s vote?
4. Is ‘purity’ involved in this? And if so, at what point is seeking purity wrong?
5. Who gets to decide on who holds an office beyond his voters?
6. When is it better to lose an election rather than compromise on one’s values?
7. There are multiple threads of loyalty involved. Which loyalties are more important than others? How do you decide?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 2, 2019 • 8:43:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2019 • 8:44:23pm

re: #277 goddamnedfrank

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Dorsey is a tool.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2019 • 8:46:34pm

re: #277 goddamnedfrank

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Fuck off Jack, your platform coddles Nazis, of course you’d see Trump as ‘just as bad’ as Obama.

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teleskiguy  Feb 2, 2019 • 8:48:23pm

re: #277 goddamnedfrank

@jack is among the worst of the billionaire gilbertarian tech bros, which makes him a fucking disgrace as a human being in the whole scheme of things.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 3, 2019 • 5:53:08am

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if the shutdown had anything to do with the TSA agent suicide?

That thought went through my mind also. Felt trapped in job and no where at the moment to go, and FuckHead-in-Chief threatening another.


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