The Bob Cesca Podcast: Murders Murders Killings Murders

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Murders Murders Killings Murders — NSFW; Our radio pal Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here today; Bob goes in depth about how Facebook murdered The Daily Banter and many other publications; Trump’s coked up ragegasm in El Paso; The Trump Reelection Campaign; Trump vs Beto on crowd size; Trump mocks Elizabeth Warren with Trail of Tears zinger; The Infuriating Double Standards; Steve Schmidt storms off his own show; and so much more.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:24:34pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:26:01pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:27:04pm

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

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“Ice cream, Mandrake! Children’s ice cream!”

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:30:16pm

Good evening Lizards:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:33:02pm

If there’s one term I’d like to consign to the ash heap of history, it’s “Neoliberal”. It’s become as useless a term as “Socialism”.

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KGxvi  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:34:29pm

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

AOC is becoming the rake to the GOP’s Sideshow Bob… every time they try to attack her, whack:

Of course, Trump isn’t necessarily the political genius he imagines himself to be—and neither, for that matter, is McConnell. Though the latter has a track record of conniving legislative successes, he may have misjudged the perception of the Green New Deal beyond the conservative echo chamber. In fact, according to one recent poll, a majority of Americans from both parties say they support the deal—including 64 percent of all Republicans, and 57 percent of self-identified conservative Republicans. A second poll indicated that 43 percent of Americans are more open to raising taxes on carbon emissions to pay for the deal, compared to 38 percent who opposed the move. At this point, a show vote may inadvertently boost the Democrats McConnell intended to target. After all, they’re only reflecting an attitude that’s surprisingly pervasive—and one the president ignores at his peril.

It has been utterly fascinating to watch what she has been able to do to the political establishment in only a few months.

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Jay C  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:35:43pm

re: #4 bd(Enquiring minds want to know!)

Good evening Lizards:

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Did the old crank finally croak?
(Not beforetime: he’s 96 - I’m actually surprised to see he’s still alive(?)
Google, GNews and Wiki have nothing….

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gwangung  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:40:09pm

re: #6 KGxvi

AOC is becoming the rake to the GOP’s Sideshow Bob… every time they try to attack her, whack:

It has been utterly fascinating to watch what she has been able to do to the political establishment in only a few months.

I dunno. People SAY they’d be willing to pay higher taxes, but when push comes to shove, they’ll vote it down, like WA did with a carbon tax last year (or scream bloody murder when trying to fund mass transit).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:40:29pm

I’ll believe La Douche is dead when I see a picture of his coffin with a stake driven thru the heart.

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:40:47pm

re: #7 Jay C

Did the old crank finally croak?
(Not beforetime: he’s 96 - I’m actually surprised to see he’s still alive(?)
Google, GNews and Wiki have nothing….

hmmmmmmmm?

maybe he got better?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:41:40pm

re: #10 bd(Enquiring minds want to know!)

hmmmmmmmm?

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maybe he got better?

It rose from the brain dead.

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KGxvi  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:47:40pm

re: #8 gwangung

I dunno. People SAY they’d be willing to pay higher taxes, but when push comes to shove, they’ll vote it down, like WA did with a carbon tax last year (or scream bloody murder when trying to fund mass transit).

The devil is always in the details. How a tax scheme gets implemented is always about the details. Which makes it a hard sell, because most people don’t have anything beyond a rudimentary understanding of how the tax code works (which is also why it’s typically easier to sell tax cuts than more general tax reform - “I’m going to cut your taxes” is easier to understand than “I’m going to adjust the marginal rates and several various deductions in an equitable way”). It will have to come down to how the entire plan is sold and explained in simple terms.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 12, 2019 • 4:47:57pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

It rose from the brain dead.

Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence. It has not been proven that he ever did, in fact, have a brain.

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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:27:29pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:28:00pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

Kasie Hunt
✔
@kasie
NEWS: Mitch McConnell says the Senate will be voting on the Green New Deal

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3:03 PM - Feb 12, 2019

And what would be in that Senate Green New Deal package? Unless it’s the legislation passed by the House, I wouldn’t trust anything that McConnell put together. I already commented on a friend’s FB post, when he repeated the nonsense spewed by thefederalist.com. AOC can’t refute everything all on her own; we need others that can deal with the legions of RW sites.

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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:28:04pm
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Teddy's Person  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:30:26pm
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Teddy's Person  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:31:38pm

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:33:03pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:36:56pm

re: #6 KGxvi

AOC is becoming the rake to the GOP’s Sideshow Bob… every time they try to attack her, whack:

It has been utterly fascinating to watch what she has been able to do to the political establishment in only a few months.

I just had the thought that in a strange way AOC is like Trump.

Trump came on the scene and said and then did the things ordinary Republicans struggle with even though some are the same things they wanted to do.

Alexandria came on the scene and said and then is doing the things ordinary Democrats have struggled with even though some are the same things they wanted to do.

Yes, the difference is in Trump has been a negative and AOC is showing to be a big positive.

I’m trying to think if it is boldness, want, drive, not shutting up, working with the power you see unmined, all of that or just parts? Or is it personality and right place and time?

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:37:52pm

Was not expecting this: Some good news on the conservation front

washingtonpost.com

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:38:58pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:39:00pm
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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:39:39pm

re: #19 Single-handed sailor

What could possibly go wrong.

Besides all of it.

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:41:33pm

re: #22 lawhawk

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The fluoride fountain is a nice touch!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:42:46pm

re: #24 lawhawk

What could possibly go wrong.

Besides all of it.

Well, they did say they wanted to make the desert glow… That’s definitely one of the faster ways to do it.

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gwangung  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:42:53pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

I just had the thought that in a strange way AOC is like Trump.

Trump came on the scene and said and then did the things ordinary Republicans struggle with even though some are the same things they wanted to do.

Alexandria came on the scene and said and then is doing the things ordinary Democrats have struggled with even though some are the same things they wanted to do.

Yes, the difference is in Trump has been a negative and AOC is showing to be a big positive.

I’m trying to think if it is boldness, want, drive, not shutting up, working with the power you see unmined, all of that or just parts? Or is it personality and right place and time?

The universe demands a balance.

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Teddy's Person  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:45:07pm

Lou has some advice for Candice:

DOBBS: Two of the most two of the evilest figures in figure. In this business, it’s a simple thing, the news business. Anybody who brings up Hitler loses. Every single time so if you’re looking for a metaphor, taken from the old guy. Find another metaphor. Find another symbol.

OWENS: I’ll take that advice. I’ve learned my lesson.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:46:04pm

re: #22 lawhawk

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These shits are setting the stage for a monumental catastrophe, a completely predictable , preventable, and unnecessary pandemic that could nevertheless kill millions. There should be an equivalent of the Nuremberg Tribunal in the aftermath.

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ObserverArt  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:56:30pm

re: #27 gwangung

The universe demands a balance.

I like your thinking.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:57:33pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 12, 2019 • 5:59:54pm

re: #10 bd(Enquiring minds want to know!)

hmmmmmmmm?

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maybe he got better?

How many times did Elron die before it finally took?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:00:54pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:04:41pm

Another stern test for my opposition to the death penalty:
Children found locked in dog cage, living in deplorable conditions, Wise County deputies say

RHOME, Texas — A father and mother of four children are facing charges after deputies discovered a horrific scene of child abuse and neglect at a home Tuesday morning.

According to Wise County deputies, they received a call at about 7:20 a.m. on a report of domestic violence at a house off County Road 4930 near Newark, about 30 miles north of Fort Worth.

Andrew Fabila and Paige Harkings face four charges of child endangerment, authorities said.

When deputies arrived at the home, they found cuts to the Fabila’s face and heard children inside a barn, according to Sheriff Lane Akin, with the Wise County Sheriff’s Department.

Officials said that when deputies searched the property, they found two children locked in a dog kennel together. Deputies said two other children also showed signs of malnutrition and that food inside the home had been locked up, not reachable by the children. The children were in the age range of one to five years old.

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:07:18pm

OFFS - AOC is definitely inside their heads and then some.

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:11:29pm

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

Corwyn tried the same argument…. except….

That’s not how this works.

People are getting less back and the withholding changes meant that the refunds they were expecting aren’t going to show. People are paying more in tax because of the tax scam and the way deductions are computed - it was a shell game and it was identified before the TCJA was enacted. It was identified that it would result in harms to the middle class due to the way the GOP limited deductions all while they protected tax breaks for millionaires (like the deal for aircraft costs/expenses). Millionaires got lower tax rates, but the middle class got their deductions and credits limited.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:14:36pm

re: #27 gwangung

The universe demands a balance.

He’s a lousy Kylo.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:15:27pm

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

Marginal taxes won’t impact any Americans earning less than 10 million dollars so of course Junior is lying about Dems advocating a tax hike on working class Americans.

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Skip Intro  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:23:28pm

re: #38 Patricia Kayden

Junior has no idea what work is.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:29:12pm

re: #39 Skip Intro

Junior has no idea what work is.

Sure he does. It’s what he pretends to pay other people to do. Then he stiffs them on the bill.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:38:13pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:38:22pm

re: #40 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I thought his only job was going on vacation, like his dad.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:43:03pm

That legal recreational use of marijuana is having a seriously strange effect in Colorado

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KGxvi  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:44:14pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

I just had the thought that in a strange way AOC is like Trump.

Trump came on the scene and said and then did the things ordinary Republicans struggle with even though some are the same things they wanted to do.

Alexandria came on the scene and said and then is doing the things ordinary Democrats have struggled with even though some are the same things they wanted to do.

Yes, the difference is in Trump has been a negative and AOC is showing to be a big positive.

I’m trying to think if it is boldness, want, drive, not shutting up, working with the power you see unmined, all of that or just parts? Or is it personality and right place and time?

A big part of it, I think, is simply rejecting some of the establishmentarian elements of the system. Normally, someone like AOC would be a back bencher that nobody really paid much attention to for a decade or so. Trump would have been a candidate like Steve Forbes that would have political consultants make him into just another standard issue Republican with one or two “out there ideas”. They both used social media in ways that have forced the establishment to respond to them on their terms rather than on its terms.

In AOC’s case I think it’s boldness and generational, along with the obvious point that she clearly believes in the things that she’s advocating. In Trump’s case, it was timing and luck. They both have a certain authenticity in the sense that they are true to themselves and it shows - they’re not the type that is going to necessarily just say something because it worked well with the latest focus group (Beto has this quality too)

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:47:08pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:48:51pm

Musicless / KIRK vs. GORN

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:52:07pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That legal recreational use of marijuana is having a seriously strange effect in Colorado

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Lol at Tennessee: Kevin James

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:56:00pm

re: #47 BlueSpotinAL

Lol at Tennessee: Kevin James

Mrs. Fish suspects that it may be Photoshopped.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 12, 2019 • 6:58:33pm

re: #47 BlueSpotinAL

Lol at Tennessee: Kevin James

I blame bad moonshine

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:01:24pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

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Anti-semitic should also be one of those terms people should be required to define.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:01:41pm

re: #48 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish suspects that it may be Photoshopped.

It is. A simple Google Image search reveals there are at least a dozen variations of that graphic floating around.

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freetoken  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:03:21pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

Trump himself has used anti-semitic tropes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:03:23pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

It is. A simple Google Image search reveals there are at least a dozen variations of that graphic floating around.

Different Kevin James, trust me. Though Wiki says that Kevin James died in 1990….

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freetoken  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:04:36pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Boats”.

Florida is going to need a lot of them once it’s under water.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:09:32pm

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:15:40pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That legal recreational use of marijuana is having a seriously strange effect in Colorado

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A Mom Anon  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:42:17pm

re: #45 The Vicious Babushka

At this point the hubris is just soul breaking. If this were a sane country, this kind of bullshit would evoke some sense of shame and backlash. But we’re not sane, so never mind then. This is the kind of shit that makes me feel not so kind of heart. To understate it by eons.

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mmmirele  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:43:31pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah, the signers included James Dobson, a guy who wrote reams of books about parenting which included being sure to whip the tar out of your kids. *scowl* There’s a story in one of his books about how he beat his dachshund Siggie (for “Sigmund Freud”) because the little dog had the temerity to curl up somewhere fluffy and warm on a cold night and refused to go to his enclosure. Siggie is no longer with us, but I like to imagine him waiting at the Pearly Gates to bite hell out of Dobson’s ankles, butt, etc.

huffingtonpost.com

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teleskiguy  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:46:41pm
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DodgerFan1988  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:49:41pm
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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:52:08pm

re: #60 DodgerFan1988

No way I would listen to her.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:56:28pm
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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 12, 2019 • 7:59:17pm

re: #62 Belafon

A school for fucking wizards does not strike me as child-friendly.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:04:10pm

re: #62 Belafon

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Tough call because I would need two F-bombs.

Quote:
“Open the fucking pod bay doors, Hal”

Response:
“I’m afraid I can’t fucking do that Dave”

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piratedan  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:05:28pm

re: #63 The Ghost of Quesos Past

well… child creative at least….

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:17:42pm

re: #62 Belafon

“One ring to fucking rule them all.”

“I’ll be fucking back.”

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:18:56pm

re: #60 DodgerFan1988

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Having been an elementary school teacher working with primarily ESL students (Spanish speaking), they worked hard to learn English. The fact is that it takes 4-7 years to learn the content language that is needed to perform well in school, particularly for those students who have not received education in their native language.

The best way to teach ESL students, and really any student, is through a true bilingual approach. That means that starting in first grade, the students all learn content material in all subjects in two languages. They are immersed one day in one language and then the next in the other language. They learn to think in both languages. Of course, that would never happen in the United States because we don’t believe in truly learning another language.

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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:22:42pm

Not much I can think of that needs an f bomb that doesn’t already have it (yippee ki yeah …) But perhaps, an extra exclamation point as “Not my daughter you fucking bitch”

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:23:06pm

Bit of an off-topic question for the night crew - has anyone else here had to deal with this year’s variety of the flu bug?

Asking because I usually forego the vaccine because every time I’ve gotten vaccinated I invariably end up catching it anyways, and the times I’ve skipped I’ve avoided being affected. I think that might have been an unwise decision this year. First time in more than a decade I’ve had to deal with fever (peaked yesterday at 102 degrees) - and still no sign of letting up. Feeling like total crap is not at all fun. I can only hope my regiment of bed rest, Nyquil, hydration with orange juice, Gatorade and water along with chicken noodle & hot and sour soup (because even looking at solid food right now makes me queasy) will do the trick eventually.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:23:15pm

That cocksucker works for NYT, or does that stand for New York Twat?

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:23:21pm

“Fucking play it, Sam.”

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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:27:27pm

re: #69 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

7 day monster for my GF who did get this year’s shot. Fever broke 6th day. Watch yourself and push fluids.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:28:27pm

“This far! No fucking farther!”

Jean-Luc Picard - The Line Must Be Drawn Here

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:33:17pm

re: #69 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Bit of an off-topic question for the night crew - has anyone else here had to deal with this year’s variety of the flu bug?

Asking because I usually forego the vaccine because every time I’ve gotten vaccinated I invariably end up catching it anyways, and the times I’ve skipped I’ve avoided being affected. I think that might have been an unwise decision this year. First time in more than a decade I’ve had to deal with fever (peaked yesterday at 102 degrees) - and still no sign of letting up. Feeling like total crap is not at all fun. I can only hope my regiment of bed rest, Nyquil, hydration with orange juice, Gatorade and water along with chicken noodle & hot and sour soup (because even looking at solid food right now makes me queasy) will do the trick eventually.

I did not get my flu shot this year, though my kids did when they were with their dad. Life intruded and I never got it and now I’m hoping that I don’t get the flu!

From what I understand about the flu, it can take 7-14 days for it to run its course. If you catch it within the first day or so, Tamiflu may shorten the course. You are right to stay hydrated. If you have any trouble whatsoever with breathing or your fever continues, please get in to see a doctor right away. The worry is that it could turn into a secondary infection such as pneumonia.

Hope you feel better soon!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:37:32pm

re: #70 Single-handed sailor

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That cocksucker works for NYT, or does that stand for New York Twat?

AFAIK he does not work for the Times. Not sure what the NYT stands for in his handle, but I’ll go with your suggestion.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:41:51pm

re: #70 Single-handed sailor

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That cocksucker works for NYT, or does that stand for New York Twat?

I assume being a native of Iowa City means that’s where she was born.

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freetoken  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:44:18pm

A phrase came to mind… and I don’t know where I’ve read it, but it must be famous or something.

“Hooray for the party”.

Does that ring a bell for anyone?

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:48:41pm

re: #66 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

“One ring to fucking rule them all.”

“I’ll be fucking back.”

Silent Movie, where Marcel Marseau says “Fuck!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:49:43pm

re: #58 mmmirele

Yeah, the signers included James Dobson, a guy who wrote reams of books about parenting which included being sure to whip the tar out of your kids. *scowl* There’s a story in one of his books about how he beat his dachshund Siggie (for “Sigmund Freud”) because the little dog had the temerity to curl up somewhere fluffy and warm on a cold night and refused to go to his enclosure. Siggie is no longer with us, but I like to imagine him waiting at the Pearly Gates to bite hell out of Dobson’s ankles, butt, etc.

huffingtonpost.com

??? Dobson won’t be heading to the Pearly Gates — his destination will be somewhat different.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:52:00pm

re: #74 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

You can still get the shot.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:52:14pm

re: #58 mmmirele

Yeah, the signers included James Dobson, a guy who wrote reams of books about parenting which included being sure to whip the tar out of your kids. *scowl* There’s a story in one of his books about how he beat his dachshund Siggie (for “Sigmund Freud”) because the little dog had the temerity to curl up somewhere fluffy and warm on a cold night and refused to go to his enclosure. Siggie is no longer with us, but I like to imagine him waiting at the Pearly Gates to bite hell out of Dobson’s ankles, butt, etc.

huffingtonpost.com

I’m not surprised to see that all of those Pulpit Pimps line up behind Steve Thing.

Gives more of an incentive for people to walk out of churches and never go back.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 12, 2019 • 8:57:44pm

Now this would have been a cool picture if it had been made!

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teleskiguy  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:01:02pm

The keyboard wizard for my favorite touring rock ‘n’ roll circus Umphrey’s McGee says some stuff on teh Twitterz

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:07:36pm

Winter has come for the Opportunity lander.

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plansbandc  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:11:34pm

re: #84 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

What an impressive little machine. RIP

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:19:40pm

*sigh*

Apple, Google Both Hosting Saudi Government App That Lets Men Track Women, Restrict Their Travel

*sigh*

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makeitstop  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:21:33pm

“After all, tomorrow is another fucking day.”

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austin_blue  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:23:16pm

re: #69 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Bit of an off-topic question for the night crew - has anyone else here had to deal with this year’s variety of the flu bug?

Asking because I usually forego the vaccine because every time I’ve gotten vaccinated I invariably end up catching it anyways, and the times I’ve skipped I’ve avoided being affected. I think that might have been an unwise decision this year. First time in more than a decade I’ve had to deal with fever (peaked yesterday at 102 degrees) - and still no sign of letting up. Feeling like total crap is not at all fun. I can only hope my regiment of bed rest, Nyquil, hydration with orange juice, Gatorade and water along with chicken noodle & hot and sour soup (because even looking at solid food right now makes me queasy) will do the trick eventually.

I’m pretty resistant to flu, but got it this year. Not much of a fever, but a lot of initial muscle pain and a head full of goo, which dropped into my chest after day two and resulted in a horrible cough and lung congestion. Never got nauseous from the the flu, but the coughing was hard enough that I actually puked a couple of times because of it. Chugged expectorant for a couple of days and it decreased. Cough lasted about a week.

Ick.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:30:22pm

re: #87 makeitstop

“After all, tomorrow is another fucking day.”

If anybody in that movie gets an f-bomb, it’s Mammy.

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austin_blue  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:30:40pm

re: #67 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

Having been an elementary school teacher working with primarily ESL students (Spanish speaking), they worked hard to learn English. The fact is that it takes 4-7 years learn content language that is needed to perform well in school, particularly for those students who have not received education in their native language.

The best way to teach ESL students, and really any students, is through a true bilingual approach. That means that starting in first grade, the students all learn content material in all subjects in two languages. They are immersed one day in one language and then the next in the other language. They learn to think in both languages. Of course, that would never happen in the United States because we don’t believe in truly learning another language.

My neighborhood school here in Bouldin Creek (Yay, Becker Bobcats!) is a dual language (Spanglish) immersion campus. The program been very successful for both the Spanish and English native speakers. The teachers have been overwhelmed by how much the kids help each other. It is rated as “exemplary” by the State.

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:31:07pm

Does it have to be “fucking”? Because I immediately thought of:

“Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a fuck.”

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Jay C  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:33:57pm

“There’s no fucking place like home”. *click*
“There’s no fucking place like home”. *click*
“There’s no fucking place like home”. *click*

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:35:26pm

re: #92 Jay C

“If only I had a fucking brain”

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austin_blue  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:35:45pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

Does it have to be “fucking”? Because I immediately thought of:

“Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a fuck.”

Me too!

Classic modern update to a shocking line from 1939.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:39:14pm

re: #94 austin_blue

Me too!

Classic modern update to a shocking line from 1939.

The modern update for that movie is an after credits scene where Hatty McDaniel’s Mammy pistol whips Scarlet into unconsciousness as she watches Rhett depart, loads a sack with valuables and fucks off to Canada.

Along the way she steals Rhett’s horse and shoots off one of his kneecaps.

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freetoken  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:39:55pm

Fucking Rosebud.

97
TedStriker  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:44:44pm

re: #95 The Ghost of Quesos Past

The modern update for that movie is an after credits scene where Hatty McDaniel’s Mammy pistol whips Scarlet into unconsciousness as she watches Rhett departs, loads a sack with valuables and fucks off to Canada.

Along the way she steals Rhett’s horse and shoot off one of his kneecaps.

Sounds a lot like this:

Django - Ending Execution Scene

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:44:57pm

re: #62 Belafon

[Embedded content]

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:49:31pm

“I’m going to make him an offer he can’t fucking refuse.”

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:53:52pm

re: #97 TedStriker

I have hated “Gone with the Wind” since I was six years old. Vehemently. Didn’t even understand why I hated it until older.

I loved “Django” precisely because it felt like a retort to the vaseline-on-the-lens romance of the antebellum plantations.

101
Jason Munro  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:53:55pm

“I killed a man with a fucking trident”

102
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:54:17pm

“Bond. JAMES FUCKING BOND!”

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:55:10pm

“Go ahead, make my fucking day.”

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2019 • 9:56:46pm

re: #86 The Ghost of Quesos Past

*sigh*

Apple, Google Both Hosting Saudi Government App That Lets Men Track Women, Restrict Their Travel

*sigh*

Don’t buy that Apple really cares about your privacy. They’ve just decided banning certain apps makes them sound concerned.

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austin_blue  Feb 12, 2019 • 10:05:34pm

“Snakes. Why did it have to be fucking snakes.”

106
piratedan  Feb 12, 2019 • 10:21:37pm

“E.T., phone fucking home”

107
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 12, 2019 • 10:22:04pm

“Houston, the fucking Eagle has fucking landed.”

(Not a movie quote, but close.)

108
Kilroy was here  Feb 12, 2019 • 10:31:07pm

Use the fucking Force Luke

In space no can hear you fucking scream

109
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 12, 2019 • 10:33:18pm
110
Kilroy was here  Feb 12, 2019 • 10:34:10pm

Houston we have a fucking problem

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2019 • 10:38:11pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Karoli
@Karoli
Okay I howled.

So did I! Chyron was a Freudian slip.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 12, 2019 • 10:39:17pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

I need more coffee. I had to read it three times before I saw the missing word.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:03:36pm

So like I mentioned yesterday I’ve been trying to help my Dad get his reef aquarium running right so he can start putting corals and fishies and suchlike in it and I don’t know if y’all are aware but these goddamned shits are fucking involved.

The biggest hiccup so far has been the protein skimmer. The “expert” who Dad contracted to set up the whole deal and convert his 200 gallon fresh water aquarium, which has been sitting unused for years, to a reef tank just threw the whole mess in before Christmas and then took off for a couple weeks. Then he came back for a day, put in the skimmer, seven blue-green chromis starter fish and took off for Vegas for another week and a half. All the fish were diseased on arrival, got lesions and were dead within ten days, so that was fun.

Then I noticed that the protein skimmer was spitting water everywhere inside the sump cabinet, and we got some mold spots in that fucker. Hurray! I notice that the bubble plate on the skimmer is just floating around and point it out to our “expert” who says that’s normal. He tells me how to adjust the skimmer outflow and admits that he probably set the water level in the sump too high which was causing it to go crazy, overflow and spit water all over the place. But I’m not convinced that the mold is really dealt with so after realizing that I can’t abate this shit with the sump in place we put the project on hold. I shut it the return pump down, remove it, the heater, skimmer, pump the water in the sump into some large garbage cans, scoop out all the sand from the refugium, pull out the drains and filter socks and muscle that fucker out.

Now I can get at all the mold on the wood that the sump was blocking before. I sand it all down, bleach the fuck out of that shit, repeat a couple times just to be sure because I’m from Seattle and have serious trust issues with mold. Then I finally cover everything with several coats of KILZ primer and waterproofing paint.

Now, I think, problem solved. So I put all the stuff back, with some new added handmade gaskets and a silicone flap to deal with the minor splashing and salt creep from the drains. I get it all running and start up the skimmer again, now with the ATO sensors in the sump set at a lower level and setting outflow adjustment on max to keep the bubble column at minimum.

It still goes crazy, not as much as before but it ain’t right. Great.

So now I really get into looking through the nitty gritty of the product documentation, which in my defense sucks ass, and realize that I was right in the beginning, the little acrylic stem that the skimmer’s bubble plate is screwed into is supposed to be glued / locked into the plastic plate of the bubble chamber, but it was cracked and broken from the get go, which is at least partly why the thing couldn’t be dialed in.

So, basically, the point of telling you all that is there’s a non trivial chance that after talking with the “expert” again I’ll be in jail this time tomorrow.

114
Single-handed sailor  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:04:57pm
115
Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:14:44pm

“Catastrophic” hack on email provider destroys almost two decades of data (ArsTechnica)

VFEMail was founded after the ILOVEYOU trojan which hit Windows machines. They based it on Linux so such exploits couldn’t happen.

The entire company has been wiped out by a hacker, including bypassing two-factor authentication.

Email provider VFEmail said it has suffered a catastrophic destruction of all of its servers by an unknown assailant who wiped out almost two decades’ worth of data and backups in a matter of hours.

“Yes, @VFEmail is effectively gone,” VFEmail founder Rick Romero wrote on Twitter Tuesday morning after watching someone methodically reformat hard drives of the service he started in 2001. “It will likely not return. I never thought anyone would care about my labor of love so much that they’d want to completely and thoroughly destroy it.”

(more)

Speculation is a state actor, a person with a grudge against the company or its founder, a ransomware attack where the ransom message wasn’t seen, &c. The attack appeared to originate from two IPs associated with Webhosting services in Bulgaria.

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:16:14pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

So like I mentioned yesterday I’ve been trying to help my Dad get his reef aquarium running right so he can start putting corals and fishies and suchlike in it and I don’t know if y’all are aware but these goddamned shits are fucking involved.

The biggest hiccup so far has been the protein skimmer. The “expert” who Dad contracted to set up the whole deal and convert his 200 gallon fresh water aquarium, which has been sitting unused for years, to a reef tank just threw the whole mess in before Christmas and then took off for a couple weeks. Then he came back for a day, put in the skimmer, seven blue-green chromis starter fish and took off for Vegas for another week and a half. All the fish were diseased on arrival, got lesions and were dead within ten days, so that was fun.

Then I noticed that the protein skimmer was spitting water everywhere inside the sump cabinet, and we got some mold spots in that fucker. Hurray! I notice that the bubble plate on the skimmer is just floating around and point it out to our “expert” who says that’s normal. He tells me how to adjust the skimmer outflow and admits that he probably set the water level in the sump too high which was causing it to go crazy, overflow and spit water all over the place. But I’m not convinced that the mold is really dealt with so after realizing that I can’t abate this shit with the sump in place we put the project on hold. I shut it the return pump down, remove it, the heater, skimmer, pump the water in the sump into some large garbage cans, scoop out all the sand from the refugium, pull out the drains and filter socks and muscle that fucker out.

Now I can get at all the mold on the wood that the sump was blocking before. I sand it all down, bleach the fuck out of that shit, repeat a couple times just to be sure because I’m from Seattle and have serious trust issues with mold. Then I finally cover everything with several coats of KILZ primer and waterproofing paint.

Now, I think, problem solved. So I put all the stuff back, with some new added handmade gaskets and a silicone flap to deal with the minor splashing and salt creep from the drains. I get it all running and start up the skimmer again, now with the ATO sensors in the sump set at a lower level and setting outflow adjustment on max to keep the bubble column at minimum.

It still goes crazy, not as much as before but it ain’t right. Great.

So now I really get into looking through the nitty gritty of the product documentation, which in my defense sucks ass, and realize that I was right in the beginning, the little acrylic stem that the skimmer’s bubble plate is screwed into is supposed to be glued / locked into the plastic plate of the bubble chamber, but it was cracked and broken from the get go, which is at least partly why the thing couldn’t be dialed in.

So, basically, the point of telling you all that is there’s a non trivial chance that after talking with the “expert” again I’ll be in jail this time tomorrow.

After that much shit? I think we’re looking at a justifiable homicide.

//

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Scout  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:16:34pm

Folks here who like history might find this column interesting. It was in my hometown newspaper’s Opinion section this morning.

From The Japan Times:

The state that accepted Japanese-Americans

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:31:31pm

VFEmail (making E-mail safe for the masses, their tagline) now has messages up on their Website about the catastrophic damage to their company.

(There is no substitute for off-line storage. Even someone who was trained in Commodore 64 computers knows this. All my E-mail I wish to keep is stored off-line with an air-gap.)

vfemail.net

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:35:07pm
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freetoken  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:40:29pm

re: #114 Single-handed sailor

We’re expected to get a couple of inches over several days, down here in the corner of the country.

A bit north and much more rain is expected.

I sort of don’t like the throwing the term “river” at these types of storms as they aren’t really all that different than what happens elsewhere. I think the idea of “atmospheric river” was coined to provide a blurb more than anything else.

A standing pattern is not unusual for an atmosphere, we’ve discovered, which has been born out by looking at other planets.

Indeed, during the late hurricane season, you can often find a fixed pattern of upper-level moisture that goes from the east Pacific northeast through Texas - it’s why Texas can get those deluges like what happened last fall.

This rainy season (for us that is July-June type of calendar “year”) will be the first in several years where we might total significantly above the long term (30 year average).

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:44:15pm

re: #100 The Ghost of Quesos Past

I have hated “Gone with the Wind” since I was six years old. Vehemently. Didn’t even understand why I hated it until older.

I loved “Django” precisely because it felt like a retort to the vaseline-on-the-lens romance of the antebellum plantations.

not me; I used to love GWTW. It’s embarrassing how long it took me to realize the problems with it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2019 • 11:46:51pm

An opinion piece in the Japan Times (in English), on the history of Japanese interment, how Colorado treated it differently than every other Western state, and comparisons to anti-Arab and antisemitic sentiment today. It’s about a five minute read for me … well worth it.

The state that accepted Japanese-Americans
by Kuni Miyake

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 12:01:10am

re: #69 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Bit of an off-topic question for the night crew - has anyone else here had to deal with this year’s variety of the flu bug?

Asking because I usually forego the vaccine because every time I’ve gotten vaccinated I invariably end up catching it anyways, and the times I’ve skipped I’ve avoided being affected. I think that might have been an unwise decision this year. First time in more than a decade I’ve had to deal with fever (peaked yesterday at 102 degrees) - and still no sign of letting up. Feeling like total crap is not at all fun. I can only hope my regiment of bed rest, Nyquil, hydration with orange juice, Gatorade and water along with chicken noodle & hot and sour soup (because even looking at solid food right now makes me queasy) will do the trick eventually.

No, my wife and I didn’t have to deal with it because we got our flu shots.

Catching the flu (I suspect “invariably” is hyperbole here) when you’ve had the flu shot means you will have a milder version of it.

Also, like measles, the flu can be spread before the symptoms hit you and after they are over. I hate to sound preachy here, but not getting the shot because (insert reason) is not much different than an antivax position.

Every person who does not get flu shots weakens the point of herd immunity (for those who cannot get shots: the very young, the very old, those who are immnocompromised such as AIDS patients or cancer treatment patients, those allergic to the components of the immunization who can’t get it, &c).

Influenza is not a mild disease. Last season, 80,000 people died from influenza in the USA. That’s not counting all the people hospitalised or sickened by it.
washingtonpost.com
Flu broke records for deaths, illnesses in 2017-2018, new CDC numbers show

Influenza killed about 80,000 people in the 2017-2018 season, according to figures released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The previous high for a regular flu season, based on analyses dating back more than three decades, was 56,000 deaths.

“Last year was just a horrible season,” said Daniel Jernigan, head of the CDC’s influenza division. “It was just a tremendous amount of disease.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 12:45:10am

GOP: “WE DON’T HAVE THE MONEY TO AFFORD ANY OF THE SPENDING THE DNC WANTS! IN FACT, WE HAVE TO START CUTTING SPENDING TO BRING DOWN THE DEFICIT!!!”

WH: “Hey, look at all this money we just found lying around to build the wall with!”

125
freetoken  Feb 13, 2019 • 1:02:18am

Missed this bit of news on Monday:

Stargate SG-1 and The Godfather Part II actor Carmen Argenziano dies at 75

Remembering Carmen Argenziano

126
Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 1:05:52am

On Donald Trump not having a dog (and people trying to conflate that with “well, of course, he’s a sociopath” or something …)

It turns out several presidents did not own dogs. “Doesn’t own a dog” seems a pretty thin criticism of Donald Trump when there are so many more relevant criticisms to level.

dogtime.com

The big list of presidents who had dogs, and the dogs’ names and breeds (where available).

127
freetoken  Feb 13, 2019 • 1:11:37am

Océano Profundo 2018: Psychedelic Medusa

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ericblair  Feb 13, 2019 • 1:11:46am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

It turns out several presidents did not own dogs. “Doesn’t own a dog” seems a pretty thin criticism of Donald Trump when there are so many more relevant criticisms to level.

No, but of course he was lying about it anyways. Too busy, my ass.

129
Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 1:27:44am

LOL, video, 1:13

130
Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 1:35:21am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 2:31:45am

ICE seizes woman in St. Louis for deportation.
riverfronttimes.com

She’s been in the country for twenty years. She presented herself seeking asylum when she first entered the country. Immigration told her she had to appear in court, but did not give her a date or time.

When her court date passed (because she didn’t know the court date), they declared her unlawfully in the country and ordered her removal.

The Supreme Court ruled that practice of not giving court dates to people seeking asylum to be illegal last year.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 3:04:32am

re: #67 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

That means that starting in first grade, the students all learn content material in all subjects in two languages. They are immersed one day in one language and then the next in the other language. They learn to think in both languages. Of course, that would never happen in the United States because we don’t believe in truly learning another language.

That’s not entirely true. My kids were in a Spainish immersion program where they had no English K-3rd grade, then school was 50/50 Spanish/English 4th and 5th grade. middle school was two classes in Spanish, high school was opt-in. One kid dropped it, the other was taking college junior level Spanish lit by 11th grade. Don Quixote in Spanish, etc.

Your point does stand in general and our area is probably outside the norm, but there are some good immersion schools in this country

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 3:07:36am

re: #69 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Bit of an off-topic question for the night crew - has anyone else here had to deal with this year’s variety of the flu bug?

Asking because I usually forego the vaccine because every time I’ve gotten vaccinated I invariably end up catching it anyways, and the times I’ve skipped I’ve avoided being affected. I think that might have been an unwise decision this year. First time in more than a decade I’ve had to deal with fever (peaked yesterday at 102 degrees) - and still no sign of letting up. Feeling like total crap is not at all fun. I can only hope my regiment of bed rest, Nyquil, hydration with orange juice, Gatorade and water along with chicken noodle & hot and sour soup (because even looking at solid food right now makes me queasy) will do the trick eventually.

I got it, but massively mediated because I got the vaccine. The CDC “guesses” on strain every year, they are sometimes wrong, but even correct, you can still get it, but in a lesser severity if you get vaccinated.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 3:25:52am

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

Don’t bother with starter fish to get your tank cycling. Sand, rocks, water, salt. In your sump, throw in some extra rocks as bacteria beds. Your skimmer will overflow and act finicky for the first couple of weeks until it breaks in and you learn it’s quirks. Throw a couple of shrimp from the supermarket into the tank and some Seachen Stability. Let it go for a couple of weeks to get the bacteria up and doing their thing. Do a couple of 10% water changes. Monitor nitrate levels, then throw in some fish, assuming your nitrate levels are down to under 40 ppm. Put in fish you want in the tank “starter” fish that are sold are often aggressive bastards, especially blue Damsels.

When you get nitrates under 10 ppm you can start thinking about getting some corals that are hardy. Biggest point. Do. Not. Rush.

Use RO water or bottled or make sure you use something like Prime to get rid of chlorine and chloramine.

Oh, yeah. Your Expert is an asshole. He didn’t give you the information that you need to get going. Sat water aquariums are not hard, but they take knowledge, time, love, and work.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 3:31:07am
136
John Vreeland  Feb 13, 2019 • 3:56:19am

His Fortress of Solitary

137
Ming5000  Feb 13, 2019 • 4:03:26am

Joe gets some pushback.
Another response highlighted that every other Scout organization on Earth has already integrated. USA was last again.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 13, 2019 • 4:32:05am

I’ve been bingeing Godless and just finished the series. Dayum! What a great story and show! It’s like all the great Westerns rolled up into one package.

139
John Hughes  Feb 13, 2019 • 4:43:51am

re: #112 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I need more coffee. I had to read it three times before I saw the missing word.

There is no missing word.

140
Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2019 • 4:45:40am

Supercalifragilisticexpialifuckingdocious.

141
John Vreeland  Feb 13, 2019 • 4:47:35am

re: #137 Ming5000

It may mark the end of the Girl Scouts. Or not; time will tell. It bothers me that BSA did not think to discuss this with the Girl Scouts before it made its decision.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:13:57am

re: #139 John Hughes

There is no missing word.

Heh. True.

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John Vreeland  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:18:56am

re: #139 John Hughes

I see an extra, redundant word.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:21:45am
President Donald Trump will put pen to paper on the border-security deal in order to avoid another partial government shutdown, CNN reports. Citing two unnamed sources who the cable network says have spoken directly with the president, Trump will sign the agreement despite saying Tuesday that he was “not happy” about it. The bipartisan pact lawmakers reached Monday night includes just $1.375 billion for about 50 miles of fencing along Texas’ border with Mexico—Trump wanted more than $5 billion for his pet project. To avoid another shutdown, Congress faces a deadline to get a deal passed and signed by Trump before Friday.

thedailybeast.com

So bascially, Trump got bupkis - and he walked away from a deal a couple months back that would’ve given him a political win.

Art.
Of.
The.
Deal.

LOLOLOL

145
Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:23:35am

re: #144 Dr Lizardo

thedailybeast.com

So bascially, Trump got bupkis - and he walked away from a deal a couple months back that would’ve given him a political win.

Art.
Of.
The.
Deal.

LOLOLOL

Until Sharpie is on paper, I don’t buy this bullshit, we got told the same in December before President Coulter and Vice President Limbaugh pitched a fit.

146
Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:23:36am

re: #141 John Vreeland

It may mark the end of the Girl Scouts. Or not; time will tell. It bothers me that BSA did not think to discuss this with the Girl Scouts before it made its decision.

Beginning of the “Scout The Way You Choose” Scouts. Wife and I always wished for a fully integrated family adventure movement for our 2X2 kids.

147
jeffreyw  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:30:44am

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:30:51am

re: #145 Targetpractice

Fair enough and a good point. Trump is easily influenced by criticism and if Limbaugh, Coulter and Hannity all yelled “BETA CUCK!!” in unison, there’s a good chance he’d back out.

149
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:31:07am
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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:34:30am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough and a good point. Trump is easily influenced by criticism and if Limbaugh, Coulter and Hannity all yelled “BETA CUCK!!” in unison, there’s a good chance he’d back out.

They can scream whatever they like and engage in whatever fantasies they like about the dictatorial powers that Comrade Combover possesses, the reality is the only allies he has left in Congress willing to go through with another shutdown are the far-right backbenchers of the “Freedom Caucus” who could blow a goat on live TV and be assured reelection because they hail from districts that haven’t voted blue since Moby Dick was a minnow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:34:47am

re: #141 John Vreeland

It may mark the end of the Girl Scouts. Or not; time will tell. It bothers me that BSA did not think to discuss this with the Girl Scouts before it made its decision.

The BSA is trying to save themselves from bankruptcy over all the sexual assault allegations.

The BSA is still not an inclusive organisation by any stretch: the one girl troop is “separate but equal,” they still don’t permit atheists and will toss them if found, &c.

It’s the BSA in danger of collapsing, not the GSA. Membership in the BSA continues to decline; many of its troops are specifically associated with churches, &c.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:40:42am

Tora Tora Tora:

“There’s your fucking confirmation!”

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:43:35am

Really, I’m going to guess that Donny thinks he has some “cunning plan” worked out that will allow him to get his wall money without going through Congress, as the most important thing in his mind is just getting the first section built. Once he’s got that, he figures he’ll work it like all his past cons: “Now that we’ve started work, we can’t stop because the money spent now will have been ‘wasted’!”

154
Patricia Kayden  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:43:36am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is heartbreaking. We can do better.

155
Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:47:21am

re: #141 John Vreeland

It may mark the end of the Girl Scouts. Or not; time will tell. It bothers me that BSA did not think to discuss this with the Girl Scouts before it made its decision.

Say what?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:55:20am

re: #138 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Wasn’t it? Like I said, I don’t really like the genre, but it was great. And, the scenery, holy Cthulhu.

157
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 5:57:52am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Preznit coulter already has.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:03:50am
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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:08:57am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trumpworld continues taking potshots at Rep. Omar, suggesting that she should resign, or be stripped of committee assignments.

Nice double standard you have there. Be a shame if the GOP were held to the same standard.

We also get word of a tentative deal on building a segment of wall. It’s supposedly $1.375 billion for a wall, which is far less than the $5.7 billion he was demanding during the shutdown, and less than the compromise deal that Trump scuttled immediately preceding the shutdown.

In other words, Trump sucks at negotiating. He’s not even a great extortionist. He’s a saboteur, who damaged government and got nothing in return. He got less than what he would have had in December.

It’s little wonder the Fox white nationalists are annoyed. Fuck them.

And fuck Trump for thinking that this wall does anything but waste resources.

At the same time, Trump’s allegedly trying to loot funding meant for disaster relief in Puerto Rico and California to pay for more of the wall.

Congress should slam him for that - Congress has appropriations power under the Constitution and Trump can’t deviate from that by taking funds meant for other purposes. It’s even in the GOP interest in Congress, because any precedent of this kind of executive overreach could be used by Democrats to do things that a Democratic president might want - like a Green New Deal or infrastructure investment by shifting defense funding on national security grounds, etc.

There’s a reason that appropriations should be a hard line on overreach - it’s in the Constitution and the plain language of the text demands it. But as we repeatedly see with this GOP, they couldn’t care about the law.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:13:19am

My district is between Steve King’s and Liz Cheney’s. It’s frightening to think my rep is the sanest one of the three.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:13:28am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:14:15am

Hey, its time for Some More News.

AOC’s Green New Deal, Jeff Bezos’s Greedy Nude Steal - SOME MORE NEWS

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:16:58am

re: #156 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Wasn’t it? Like I said, I don’t really like the genre, but it was great. And, the scenery, holy Cthulhu.

Filmed in New Mexico. imdb.com

I’ve never been to NM, and now I reckon I should pay it a visit. Some of the scenery reminded me of Wyoming and Colorado, where I have visited and lived. Ms Dockery does a pretty good of sounding like an American, but if her character is supposed to be from Boston, she sure doesn’t sound like a Bostonian.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:20:22am

re: #161 lawhawk

See above, #84.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:22:38am

Interesting thread.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:25:54am

Sen. Chuck Schumer is trying to recruit Amy McGrath to run against Mitch McConnell in 2020.

politico.com

Chuck Schumer is actively recruiting a high-profile fighter pilot to take on Mitch McConnell in 2020 — a calculated act of aggression against a leading Republican foe.

Schumer met with Amy McGrath, a Marine veteran-turned 2018 congressional candidate, at Democratic Party headquarters last month to pitch her on running against McConnell. McGrath listened and didn’t rule it out. The Democratic leader first contacted McGrath in December.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:27:50am

re: #165 Dave In Austin

My hope is that the justices will not brook any attempt by a state legislature to ignore or violate federal law. Thomas, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, though, could go all states’ rights on us.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:29:33am

re: #89 The Ghost of Quesos Past

If anybody in that movie gets an f-bomb, it’s Mammy.

‘I don;t know nothin’ about birthin’ no fuckin’ babies!’ :)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:30:17am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

Sen. Chuck Schumer is trying to recruit Amy McGrath to run against Mitch McConnell in 2020.

politico.com

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At this point, I’d take anyone but Mitch. A Dem taking his seat is a dim hope, but if the KY Dems play their cards right and remind people who is responsible for their taxes going up and the federal shutdown, a Dem might have a chance to unseat the Turtle.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:38:29am

NJ Catholic Church finally releases names of priests who abused children over the past couple of decades.

48.

That’s just in the Newark diocese. There are three other diocese in NJ who are also releasing their list of names today, and the total will be so much higher.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:43:44am

re: #167 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

If they want to go state’s rights, let ‘em. In their own country. I shouldn’t have to subsidize a red state’s stupidity.

I am not sure how that goopers can believe in both unitary executive power (when controlled by the gop) and state’s rights. They are really not compatible.

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sagehen  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:45:38am

Sure they are. States Rights for red states when Dems hold the White House or Congress, unitary exec when the president and/or Senate is theirs.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:50:32am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:51:06am

Thread, four tweets:

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:55:34am

Never forget….. JFC!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 6:56:22am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:03:34am
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Old Liberal  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:05:25am

re: #167 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

My hope is that the justices will not brook any attempt by a state legislature to ignore or violate federal law. Thomas, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, though, could go all states’ rights on us.

This is where I could see a “cold civil war” for decades in this country. If SCOTUS fails to protect the Federal unity, things could unravel. The rural areas of the South will slide further back to the brutal poverty of the 1930s and they will do so quite happily. The Plains states will continue to empty out and become the ghost states of the nation and the few big local landholders will be happy about that. Hopefully the need for labor in the growing Blue states provide an outlet for emigration from the backward states. Urban gems like Atlanta Charlotte Nashville etc find ways to affiliate with progressive states. Of course the troglodytes will continue to attempt to constrain them as they do now. I hope the corporatists on SCOTUS think about their business overlords and for that reason refuse this direction. “The purpose of the Republican Party is not to serve the petty designs of the conservative mind, but to manipulate and exploit the petty designs for the financial benefit of the wealthy”. At some time, the center cannot hold and that is bad for business.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:06:44am

re: #175 Dave In Austin

Never forget….. JFC!

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You know what that reminded me of?

Apocalypse Now; the Do Long Bridge Roach Scene

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:08:30am
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Citizen K  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:11:55am

Your reminder that to be a Republican in this day and age means never having to pay consequences ever.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:12:09am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

Thread, four tweets:

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Yeah we murder journalists all the time.//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:12:29am

re: #180 Dave In Austin

Even if it was built, the cartels would have it tunneled under in less than 48 hours.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:13:50am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Yeah we murder journalists all the time.//

I guarantee you Trump would be more than happy to go after a few if he knew he could get away with it. He probably ENVIES MBS for eliminating Khashoggi.

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Old Liberal  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:15:12am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

I guarantee you Trump would be more than happy to go after a few if he knew he could get away with it. He probably ENVIES MBS for eliminating Khashoggi.

There is no PROBABLY about it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:17:41am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

I guarantee you Trump would be more than happy to go after a few if he knew he could get away with it. He probably ENVIES MBS for eliminating Khashoggi.

I’m sure.

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:22:11am

I’m liking these new dems

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:22:23am

good grief

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:24:18am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

So desperate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:31:02am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t know what groups they polled, but neither me or many people I know are in that category.

I mean, in theory I could answer yes to the question because our union contract guarantees annual wage increases but those are likely to get chewed up by inflation anyway so I’m not really anticipating much improvement.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:31:43am

re: #189 Belafon

69%

Nice.

Yes…it is a reference to the NSFW version of 69.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:33:24am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:36:49am

Here’s a few more notes from that Gallup study:

- Sixty-two percent of those under 30 say they are better off; 25% say worse off.
- Forty-five percent of women say they are better off; 29% say worse off.
- Forty-five percent of those with annual household incomes of less than $40,000 say better off, 35% worse off.
- Among liberals, 40% say better off, 31% worse off.

But it’s such a subjective question. You’re not going off hard, quantifiable date, you’re just asking people what they think.

I wonder how many people are just saying better off because they don’t want to admit the truth.

Also of note: Most economists are going total WTF? about these numbers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:37:35am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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American icon. Finally read Right Stuff this summer. Those guys were legit badasses.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:44:23am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:47:16am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

I guarantee you Trump would be more than happy to go after a few if he knew he could get away with it. He probably ENVIES MBS for eliminating Khashoggi.

The MAGATs would cheer if Trump executed Jim Acosta.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:47:52am

re: #35 lawhawk

OFFS - AOC is definitely inside their heads and then some.

She is inside their heads and we know where they keep their heads stuffed…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:47:58am

Can artificial intelligence prevent the next Parkland shooting?

Schools are increasingly turning to artificial intelligence-backed solutions to stop tragic acts of student violence such as the shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, a year ago.

Bark Technologies, gaggle.net, and Securly Inc. are three companies that employ AI and machine learning to scan student emails, texts, documents, and in some cases, social media activity. They look for warning signs of cyber bullying, sexting, drug and alcohol use, depression, and to flag students who may pose a violent risk not only to themselves, but classmates.

When potential problems are found, and depending on the severity, school administrators, parents — and under the most extreme cases — law enforcement officials, are alerted.

In the fall of 2017, Bark ran a test pilot with 25 schools. “We found some pretty alarming issues, including a bombing and school shooting threat,” says Bark chief parent officer, Titania Jordan.

Honestly, if there had been a system like this back when I was 13, it probably would have flagged a lot of my stuff too. I was bullied to the point of being suicidal. I wrote a lot about things that were going on and yes, expressed some desire to commit violence against those who were hurting me. I never did it though because 1) I understood the difference between WRITING about violence and actually committing it and 2) I DIDN’T HAVE EASY ACCESS TO GUNS!

It’s like companies are willing to come up with all this insane bullshit in the name of “safety” just so we as a society can feel better that something is being done while still gleefully ignoring the elephant in the room.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:51:43am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s a few more notes from that Gallup study:

- Sixty-two percent of those under 30 say they are better off; 25% say worse off.
- Forty-five percent of women say they are better off; 29% say worse off.
- Forty-five percent of those with annual household incomes of less than $40,000 say better off, 35% worse off.
- Among liberals, 40% say better off, 31% worse off.

But it’s such a subjective question. You’re not going off hard, quantifiable date, you’re just asking people what they think.

I wonder how many people are just saying better off because they don’t want to admit the truth.

Also of note: Most economists are going total WTF? about these numbers.

Better off is relative. Two slices of bread at dinner is better than one.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:53:43am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Can artificial intelligence prevent the next Parkland shooting?

Schools are increasingly turning to artificial intelligence-backed solutions to stop tragic acts of student violence such as the shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, a year ago.

Bark Technologies, gaggle.net, and Securly Inc. are three companies that employ AI and machine learning to scan student emails, texts, documents, and in some cases, social media activity. They look for warning signs of cyber bullying, sexting, drug and alcohol use, depression, and to flag students who may pose a violent risk not only to themselves, but classmates.

When potential problems are found, and depending on the severity, school administrators, parents — and under the most extreme cases — law enforcement officials, are alerted.

In the fall of 2017, Bark ran a test pilot with 25 schools. “We found some pretty alarming issues, including a bombing and school shooting threat,” says Bark chief parent officer, Titania Jordan.

Honestly, if there had been a system like this back when I was 13, it probably would have flagged a lot of my stuff too. I was bullied to the point of being suicidal. I wrote a lot about things that were going on and yes, expressed some desire to commit violence against those who were hurting me. I never did it though because 1) I understood the difference between WRITING about violence and actually committing it and 2) I DIDN’T HAVE EASY ACCESS TO GUNS!

It’s like companies are willing to come up with all this insane bullshit in the name of “safety” just so we as a society can feel better that something is being done while still gleefully ignoring the elephant in the room.

AI: John Thebullyson should not be allowed to have a gun, because he’s likely to kill.
NRA/GOP: OK, now, lets not go that far.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:53:50am

Because of course they are (sort of proving Rep. Omar’s point):

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:54:58am

re: #138 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’ve been bingeing Godless and just finished the series. Dayum! What a great story and show! It’s like all the great Westerns rolled up into one package.

I started watching it but quit, guess I should have another go at it…

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:55:01am

Six police officers in California fatally shot a 21-year-old rapper, saying he had a handgun in his lap and made a sudden movement after they found him sleeping in his car outside of a local Taco Bell, authorities said.

Officials in Vallejo told the San Francisco Chronicle that police discovered the local artist, identified as Willie McCoy or “Willie Bo,” sleeping in a drive-through lane with a handgun in his lap over the weekend.

Police were reportedly called to the restaurant late Saturday after an employee said he found a driver slumped over in his car.

Police said in a statement to the local paper that they initially found McCoy unresponsive with the handgun in his lap and that he suddenly moved at one point as they were examining him.

Officials said they told McCoy to keep his hands visible, but when he allegedly reached for his weapon, they discharged their weapons “in fear for their own safety.”

He allegedly had a gun in his lap and was slumped over sleeping. He woke and supposedly made a move for the gun when he was shot.

So much about this doesn’t pass the smell test.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:55:19am

No surprise there… .

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:55:52am

re: #201 Anymouse 🌹

Because of course they are (sort of proving Rep. Omar’s point):

It would be interesting to trace back to the first person who criticized her, somehow conflaiting Franklin with Netanyahu, and see what kind of money they receive.

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:57:33am

re: #146 Decatur Deb

That was the Brownies. They allowed boys a long time ago. I looked into it when Johns friends started Cub Scouts and I said “No f’in way”. In the end he was uninterested in anything like scouting or 4H due to his mental health issues.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:58:59am

re: #205 Belafon

It would be interesting to trace back to the first person who criticized her, somehow conflaiting Franklin with Netanyahu, and see what kind of money they receive.

Early on in the outrage, Chelsea Clinton was invoked by a woman asking her if she was going to take on Rep. Omar’s “racist” statement with her.

Clinton said she’d set up such a meeting, then the woman in question was outed as Matthew Heimbach’s girlfriend.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Feb 13, 2019 • 7:59:26am

re: #203 lawhawk

Let’s start with the obvious…OF COURSE HE MADE A SUDDEN MOVEMENT.

I make sudden movements when I wake up…because I am no longer sleeping.

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KGxvi  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:02:23am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s a few more notes from that Gallup study:

- Sixty-two percent of those under 30 say they are better off; 25% say worse off.
- Forty-five percent of women say they are better off; 29% say worse off.
- Forty-five percent of those with annual household incomes of less than $40,000 say better off, 35% worse off.
- Among liberals, 40% say better off, 31% worse off.

But it’s such a subjective question. You’re not going off hard, quantifiable date, you’re just asking people what they think.

I wonder how many people are just saying better off because they don’t want to admit the truth.

Also of note: Most economists are going total WTF? about these numbers.

From Gallup’s summary of the poll:

Yet for all of the heightened positivity about the U.S. economy, Americans remain entrenched in their negativity about the country in general, with just 29% saying they are satisfied with the way things are going nationally; 69% are dissatisfied. Partisans’ opinions on this measure diverge sharply: 51% of Republicans, 27% of independents and 10% of Democrats are satisfied.

But something else jumped out at me, looking at the actual numbers, only 50% of respondents were employed full time (9% were employed part time), 23% were retired. That seems high.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:02:43am

re: #205 Belafon

It would be interesting to trace back to the first person who criticized her, somehow conflaiting Franklin with Netanyahu, and see what kind of money they receive.

This is the original tweet.

Heimbach’s girlfriend shows up in the thread (then after Chelsea Clinton responds) is called out as the neo-Nazi she is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:02:52am

The Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday that Apple, which is preparing to introduce a subscription news service, is asking publishers to give the company 50 percent of any revenues that they generate.

“Fuck you, journalists!” - Tim Cook.

The chutzpah of Apple amazes me sometimes.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:05:27am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

NO.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:06:20am

re: #203 lawhawk

It was six alert cops against one 21 year old kid who was barely awake and yet the six “feared for their safety”?

Come the fuck on.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:07:01am

Fun break:

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:07:19am

re: #136 John Vreeland

His Fortress of Solitary

John Vreeland
@JohnMVreeland
Conspiracies We’d Like To See

Qanon reveals that Donald Trump plans to fake his own impeachment before retreating to a prison fortress from where he can run the government without the interference of the Deep State.

6:50 AM - Feb 13, 2019

Morning! Damn windy all last night. Sustained 25 mph wind with gusts to 35. This is some crazy weather this year. 50°+ one day, 25° the next. Rain, snow, ice, rain, snow…

About that Qanon theory above. It’s perfect.

A great excuse to cover Donny actually getting impeached. Then when he is gone, they can say all the improvements that are occurring, because likely the Democrats are in control, are really being Don by Trump underground away from The Deep State™.

Brilliant!

And everyone will be happy. Though I wonder. If Trump dies, will they tell us???

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:08:02am

re: #214 lawhawk

“I’m the king of the fucking world!”

OR

“One does not simply fucking walk into Mordor.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:08:46am

re: #214 lawhawk

Fun break:

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I’m going to make him an offer he can’t fucking refuse.

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KGxvi  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:08:49am

re: #214 lawhawk

I have a fucking bad feeling about this

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:09:19am

re: #215 ObserverArt

FAKED.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:10:39am

“I am fucking serious…and don’t call me shirley.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:11:15am

A proposal that Democrats could make as a way to spend money that would actually reduce crime instead of wasting it on Trump’s vanity project is to hire more cops. It polls well, including with African-Americans (whose neighborhoods are paradoxically both over and under policed) and it creates unionized, blue collar jobs with decent wages and benefits. The hiring should of course be diverse with lots of African-Americans and women, and they should be well-trained. Cops mere presence without engaging in aggressive tactics like stop-and-frisk deters crime, and cops who aren’t overworked are less likely to behave badly.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:11:19am

re: #218 KGxvi

That’s no moon. That’s a fucking space station!

Madness! Fucking Madness! - Bridge on the River Kwai (for those who didn’t get the reference).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:11:26am

Here’s fucking looking at you , kid

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:11:52am

“Are you fucking talking to me?”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:12:36am

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Here’s fucking looking at you , kid

Use the fucking force, Luke.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:12:45am

You’re going to need a fucking bigger boat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:12:55am

“Love means never having to say you’re fucking sorry.”

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KGxvi  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:13:04am

One more thing about that Gallup poll… it doesn’t show the demographics of the poll. Which makes me very skeptical.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:13:15am

“Go ahead, make my fucking day.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:13:23am

You can’t handle the fucking truth!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:13:30am

Mrs. Robinson, you’re fucking trying to seduce me.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:13:48am

Follow the fucking money

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:13:57am

Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a fucking damn.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:14:19am

re: #214 lawhawk

Fun break:

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:14:40am

Follow the fucking yellow brick road

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:14:56am

This game is too fun. Thanks for the morning smiles.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:15:10am

re: #234 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Al Pacino’s Montoya.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:15:12am

“I’m your fucking huckleberry.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:15:13am

In the annals of dumb criminals:

Fleeing Waterville bank robber slips, spills money, gun in front of special agent, police say (Goes to Central Maine dot Com)

He ran across four lanes of traffic on Main Street and into the Ming Lee restaurant parking lot, slipped on the ice and found himself face-to-face with a special agent for the Maine State Police Computer Crimes Task Force who just happened to be parked in the right place at the right time.

“When he fell, the money and the gun he had stashed in his jacket pocket spilled onto the parking lot, and the money was swept across the parking lot by the wind,” police Chief Joseph Massey said later. “Members of the public tried to scoop it up.”

(more)

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Ferdinand  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:16:12am

We’re gonna need a bigger fucking boat.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:16:20am

“Were off to fuck the wizard!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:16:36am

Fuckin’ Rosebud

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:17:14am

Bond, James fucking Bomd.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:17:20am

“Some men just want to watch the world fucking burn.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:17:41am

“I fucking love the smell of napalm in the morning.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:18:03am

It’s alive. It’s fucking alive.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:18:34am

“I’ll make him an offer he can’t fucking refuse.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:19:33am

“There’s no fucking crying in baseball!”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:20:30am

“I know it was you Fredo. You broke my fucking heart.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:21:58am

Love means never having to say you’re fucking sorry.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:25:48am
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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:26:54am

re: #214 lawhawk

I can’t see if you’re replying to anything, but I’m assuming it was the one I found late last night, at #62.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:27:16am

Live long and fucking prosper.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:27:38am

re: #252 Belafon

Indeed.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:27:40am

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

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Rep. Steve King released a letter signed by dozens of religious and conservative leaders calling for House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy to reinstate him to his committee assignments and apologize cnn.it

…who think it’s ok for him to be a racist…

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:27:58am

re: #32 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

How many times did Elron die before it finally took?

he still writes books

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:28:13am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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It’s the right decision.

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:29:00am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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There are some things we don’t want to know. Important things. - Ned Flanders

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Teukka  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:30:23am

re: #239 Anymouse 🌹

In the annals of dumb criminals:

Fleeing Waterville bank robber slips, spills money, gun in front of special agent, police say (Goes to Central Maine dot Com)

(more)

Soundtrack, anyone?

Yakety Sax (Long version)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:30:58am

Teaching the principles of a religion isn’t a violation of religious freedom but forced prayer certainly is.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:32:45am

re: #36 lawhawk

Corwyn tried the same argument…. except….

That’s not how this works.

People are getting less back and the withholding changes meant that the refunds they were expecting aren’t going to show. People are paying more in tax because of the tax scam and the way deductions are computed - it was a shell game and it was identified before the TCJA was enacted. It was identified that it would result in harms to the middle class due to the way the GOP limited deductions all while they protected tax breaks for millionaires (like the deal for aircraft costs/expenses). Millionaires got lower tax rates, but the middle class got their deductions and credits limited.

just keep saying over and over the important line for comparison to last year is Line 15 (total tax) NOT 19 (ovepaid/refund)

line 15 is your tax bill. you know what a bill or an invoice is, right?
line 19 is merely whether you paid the bill, or worse, more than the bill, in advance

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:33:10am

re: #256 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

he still writes books

Tom Clancy is still writing books as well!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:37:16am

re: #258 bd(Enquiring minds want to know!)

There are some things we don’t want to know. Important fucking things. - Ned Flanders

In spirit of the ongoing game

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Jay C  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:38:59am

re: #241 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

“Were off to fuck the wizard!”

Doesn’t scan well, though: maybe it works better in song”

🎵🎵 “We’re off to see the Wizard,
The Wizard of fucking Oz!,”. 🎵🎵

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gocart mozart  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:39:02am

Turdledove got no more fucks to give

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:41:05am

re: #89 The Ghost of Quesos Past

If anybody in that movie gets an f-bomb, it’s Mammy.

prissy: I don’t know nothin’ ‘bout birthin’ no fuckin’ babies.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:41:16am

re: #265 gocart mozart

Turdledove got no more fucks to give

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The boomers also were the first generation to get the polio vaccine in masse.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:42:53am

Hump day

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:43:24am

re: #107 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

“Houston, the fucking Eagle has fucking landed.”

(Not a movie quote, but close.)

“That’s one small step for a man, one giant fucking leap for mankind.”

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:43:39am

re: #265 gocart mozart

Turdledove got no more fucks to give

Darla, what about the kids from that era that could have been alive now if they’d had the vaccine?

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:43:47am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Hogg ✔
@davidhogg111

I refuse to let this be the America that any other generation has to grow up in.

I heard some guys that are just ex-athletes yakking on radio, probably in their early 30s or so, the other day and one of them brought up his young daughter came home and told him and his wife they practiced “lockdown” at school.

That broke into a conversation about how when younger they used to practice fire drills. Another said at their school his kids have four lockdown practices a year and only two fire/evacuation drills.

What struck me was this was sports radio talk and they spent a good 10 minutes talking about how messed up that all is.

Maybe we are finally getting to the stage where enough people are realizing how stupid it is that everyone has to protect themselves from something they never had to do before. And why…because guns are more important than people.

Fuck that.

I also heard there was more school shootings in America last year than ever. So, it is not getting better no matter the “protections” they try to install.

I hope David Hogg and the Parkland students keep on it. I hope to see some of them running for office in the future.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:45:42am

re: #271 ObserverArt

I heard some guys that are just ex-athletes yakking on radio, probably in their early 30s or so, the other day and one of them brought up his young daughter came home and told him and his wife they practiced “lockdown” at school.

That broke into a conversation about how when younger they used to practice fire drills. Another said at their school his kids have four lockdown practices a year and only two fire/evacuation drills.

What struck me was this was sports radio talk and they spent a good 10 minutes talking about how messed up that all is.

Maybe we are finally getting to the stage where enough people are realizing how stupid it is that everyone has to protect themselves from something they never had to do before. And why…because guns are more important than people.

Fuck that.

I also heard there was more school shootings in America last year than ever. So, it is not getting better no matter the “protections” they try to install.

I hope David Hogg and the Parkland students keep on it. I hope to see some of them running for office in the future.

The only difference between my childhood - where all of the doors at my elementary school opened to the outside - and now is that rapid fire high capacity weapons were basically impossible to come by unless you had a boatload of money.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:46:40am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:47:45am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Christian parents (the article makes it clear they were pushing this) and Thomas More Law Center (Catholics trying to tear down separation of church and state) run into I Amendment, crash and burn.

They say they are going to appeal either en banc or straight to the Supreme Court. Good luck with that.

For Thomas More, the idea is to raise money; the family and (then) teenager are simply props to be used to advance their religious and political agenda. Fundraising E-mail will probably go out immediately.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:49:41am

re: #271 ObserverArt

I heard some guys that are just ex-athletes yakking on radio, probably in their early 30s or so, the other day and one of them brought up his young daughter came home and told him and his wife they practiced “lockdown” at school.

That broke into a conversation about how when younger they used to practice fire drills. Another said at their school his kids have four lockdown practices a year and only two fire/evacuation drills.

What struck me was this was sports radio talk and they spent a good 10 minutes talking about how messed up that all is.

Maybe we are finally getting to the stage where enough people are realizing how stupid it is that everyone has to protect themselves from something they never had to do before. And why…because guns are more important than people.

Fuck that.

I also heard there was more school shootings in America last year than ever. So, it is not getting better no matter the “protections” they try to install.

I hope David Hogg and the Parkland students keep on it. I hope to see some of them running for office in the future.

The obvious solution is to enact crime reform laws to depopulate our prisons so we can use them as schools. I can’t think of any other way to prevent mass school shootings other than to harden the target; not a single thing, other than censoring video games and rap music.//

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:50:55am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

On Donald Trump not having a dog (and people trying to conflate that with “well, of course, he’s a sociopath” or something …)

It turns out several presidents did not own dogs. “Doesn’t own a dog” seems a pretty thin criticism of Donald Trump when there are so many more relevant criticisms to level.

dogtime.com

The big list of presidents who had dogs, and the dogs’ names and breeds (where available).

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:52:02am

re: #165 Dave In Austin

Interesting thread.

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Damn “Heartbeat” bill is back up in Ohio. It passed last year but got tabled when John Kasich (yeah, that John Kasich) refused to sign it.

Now living GOP establishment fossil Mike DeWine is in office a few weeks and here it comes again. Everyone figures it will be signed by the little creep.

I’ve gotten two text messages from Ohio Democratic organizations asking me to call local reps and voice my displeasure this morning.

Sneaky fucks brought it up again late at night to surprise everyone today.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:52:51am

re: #273 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Prior presidents installed bowling alleys and swimming pools, so a golf simulator isn’t out of character for the WH.

A $50k golf simulator is cheaper than Trump jetting off to one of his business resorts where he profits from every trip and bills taxpayers for all his flights.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:53:02am

re: #137 Ming5000

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Joe gets some pushback.
Another response highlighted that every other Scout organization on Earth has already integrated. USA was last again.

flag almost looks like a campbells soup can

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:54:59am

re: #145 Targetpractice

Until Sharpie is on paper, I don’t buy this bullshit, we got told the same in December before President Coulter and Vice President Limbaugh pitched a fit.

from politicalwire.com
i found this interesting. look at the time stamps:

Trump Will Sign Border Deal
February 13, 2019 at 7:56 am EST By Taegan Goddard 60 Comments

Is the Border Deal Unraveling?
February 13, 2019 at 6:33 am EST By Taegan Goddard 37 Comments

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:57:45am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

The boomers also were the first generation to get the polio vaccine in masse.

Too bad my mother and my wife’s mother were not. My wife’s mother spent her life in a wheelchair and died of post-polio syndrome. My mother recovered sufficiently to enlist in the US Navy, but now suffers post-polio syndrome.

The last known case in the wild was sixteen miles from my home when I was three.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:57:48am

We don’t need no fuckin’ badges!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:58:12am

re: #265 gocart mozart

Thanks, gocart. I clicked on that person’s tweet and then read some more of her feed. I am now permanently damaged.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:58:15am

re: #153 Targetpractice

Really, I’m going to guess that Donny thinks he has some “cunning plan” worked out that will allow him to get his wall money without going through Congress, as the most important thing in his mind is just getting the first section built. Once he’s got that, he figures he’ll work it like all his past cons: “Now that we’ve started work, we can’t stop because the money spent now will have been ‘wasted’!”

typical casino thinking - if i dont keep playing to win it back, it’s lost

well maybe the ‘real estate expert’ doesnt understand the concept of a sunk cost

the rest of us do

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 8:59:09am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s a fucking bingo!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:00:25am

I remember my parents taking me to get the polio vaccine when I was 4. They said they were taking me to kindergarten and I was so excited! We went to the school and there was a big crowd of people and kids. But instead of going to the kindergarten and having a bunch of fun with other kids, I got a needle stick.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:01:02am

re: #168 makeitstop

‘I don;t know nothin’ about birthin’ no fuckin’ babies!’ :)

damn you beat me to it

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:02:11am

re: #167 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

My hope is that the justices will not brook any attempt by a state legislature to ignore or violate federal law. Thomas, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, though, could go all states’ rights on us.

proving their own irrelevancy

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:02:13am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

I remember my parents taking me to get the polio vaccine when I was 4. They said they were taking me to kindergarten and I was so excited! We went to the school and there was a big crowd of people and kids. But instead of going to the kindergarten and having a bunch of fun with other kids, I got a needle stick.

We always told the kids they were getting shots, and we also told them that it will sting a little bit. The first couple of times, it would take a little extra time to get the shot, but it got easier. We’d also generally plan it so they could pick where to go to lunch after.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:03:07am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹

Too bad my mother and my wife’s mother were not. My wife’s mother spent her life in a wheelchair and died of post-polio syndrome. My mother recovered sufficiently to enlist in the US Navy, but now suffers post-polio syndrome.

The last known case in the wild was sixteen miles from my home when I was three.

Yeah I hear ya. Kids were still getting it when my older aunts and uncles were born. Dr. Salk was a wonderful man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:03:29am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

I remember my parents taking me to get the polio vaccine when I was 4. They said they were taking me to kindergarten and I was so excited! We went to the school and there was a big crowd of people and kids. But instead of going to the kindergarten and having a bunch of fun with other kids, I got a needle stick.

There was no record of me having a polio vaccine when I was in the Navy. (My mother insists I got it but the medical record didn’t show that.)

The Navy gave me the pink bubblegum OPV aboard USS America (CV-66) when I was twenty-three. It turns out aircraft carriers carry polio vaccine; who knew?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:04:16am

When I was a kid, there were several vaccinations (Meningitis and Hep B are the two I remember clearly) that I got through the schools. I remember being herded into the gym to get pricked which wasn’t fun, but hey at least it took us out of class for awhile and saved us from an awful disease.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:04:19am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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What the fucking fuck is up with those eyebrows???

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:05:18am

re: #293 makeitstop

What the fucking fuck is up with those eyebrows???

Thank god I’m not the only one who thought this. Those things are just…eww.

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sagehen  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:05:26am

re: #214 lawhawk

Fun break:

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I fucking HATE Illinois Nazis.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:06:12am

re: #179 makeitstop

You know what that reminded me of?

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Video

I had a good Black friend I went to Columbus College of Art and Design with that was about 7 years older than the rest of the class when we all started freshman year. That was due to him serving in Vietnam prior to starting college on the GI bill.

He always said that scene in Apocalypse Now was true to where he was stationed far up north in the country as it was just about all Black infantry with a few White inexperienced officers leading them. He said every day was hell, and if you wanted to know why there was a lot drug use, that was it. They did everything they could to pass the time counting the days until they could get out.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:06:19am

re: #224 Targetpractice

“Are you fucking talking to me?”

“You’ll shoot your fucking eye out!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:06:37am

re: #277 ObserverArt

Damn “Heartbeat” bill is back up in Ohio. It passed last year but got tabled when John Kasich (yeah, that John Kasich) refused to sign it.

Now living GOP establishment fossil Mike DeWine is in office a few weeks and here it comes again. Everyone figures it will be signed by the little creep.

I’ve gotten two text messages from Ohio Democratic organizations asking me to call local reps and voice my displeasure this morning.

Sneaky fucks brought it up again late at night to surprise everyone today.

It passed the legislature last year — why would that be any different this year? It should not have been a surprise to anyone in Ohio given that DeWine was elected. Let’s see what Roberts does when it reaches the Supreme Court. Roberts is the “new” swing vote; the other 4 will happily vote to outlaw abortion — not just turn it back to the states, but potentially criminalize it nationwide.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:08:45am

re: #293 makeitstop

What the fucking fuck is up with those eyebrows???

I thought you were quoting some movie line there, at first. Thought the same thing.

Guessing she may have strayed a little from mommy and daddy post-high school.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:09:03am

re: #292 Eclectic Cyborg

When I was a kid, there were several vaccinations (Meningitis and Hep B are the two I remember clearly) that I got through the schools. I remember being herded into the gym to get pricked which wasn’t fun, but hey at least it took us out of class for awhile and saved us from an awful disease.

I used to get them for my allergies. Must have helped because I can be around dogs who shed and cats.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:09:13am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

Thank god I’m not the only one who thought this. Those things are just…eww.

My wife tells me they now sell eyebrow stencils that you color in.

Maybe I’m just old, but that’s kinda grotesque.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:09:49am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump
The Gallup Poll just announced that 69% of our great citizens expect their finances to improve next year, a 16 year high. Nice!

35.9K
10:01 AM - Feb 13, 2019

Yeah, expect it because they hope it can’t get any worse.

Like I said the other day…more jobs than ever. That’s because everyone needs two or three to get by.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:10:15am

re: #301 makeitstop

Maybe I’m just old, but that’s kinda extremely grotesque.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:10:40am

re: #292 Eclectic Cyborg

When I was a kid, there were several vaccinations (Meningitis and Hep B are the two I remember clearly) that I got through the schools. I remember being herded into the gym to get pricked which wasn’t fun, but hey at least it took us out of class for awhile and saved us from an awful disease.

In the VA in Cheyenne there are a bunch of posters up saying anyone born between about 1945 and 1985 may have Hepatitis B and should be tested (they are also offering vaccines for it).

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:12:28am

re: #295 sagehen

I fucking HATE Illinois Nazis.

Also acceptable:

I HATE Illinois fucking Nazis.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:13:16am

re: #305 lawhawk

Also acceptable:

I HATE Illinois fucking Nazis.

Not my kink.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:14:15am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“Religion is an integral part of history. You can’t ignore it,” said Scott, who argued the case at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit. “The key is to teach it from a secular perspective - and not to proselytize.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:15:16am

From the Darla Shine thread on vaccines:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:15:55am

Funny vaccine related story: When I first moved to the U.S., my mom lost my vaccination record so, as a condition to get my green card, I had to get ALL my vaccines all over again. That was a fun afternoon of being pin pricked…not.

And wouldn’t you know it? About three weeks after this goes down, my mom finds my old records, which are now in a fireproof safe in my home.

So, now I’m TOTALLY up to date on all my shots lol.

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Axolotl  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:16:27am

The rug really brought the fucking room together.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:17:37am
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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:17:40am

Fucking Stella!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:17:53am

re: #310 Axolotl

The rug really brought the fucking room together.

“Well, that’s just like, your fucking opinion, man.”

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:18:16am

re: #219 Colère Tueur de Lapin

FAKED.

Fake or not, I still like the idea of it all. It’s a perfect excuse for Trump getting run outta town and it keeps his base calm.

Come on! What’s not to like?

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:18:28am

re: #295 sagehen

I fucking HATE Illinois Nazis.

They still exist — not just a line from the Belushi film.

Like Arthur Jones in the 2018 Congressional election — all because Illinois Republicans failed to field a legitimate candidate in the primary because they knew the Democrat would win the election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:18:58am

re: #307 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

“Religion is an integral part of history. You can’t ignore it,” said Scott, who argued the case at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit. “The key is to teach it from a secular perspective - and not to proselytize.”

and there’s the rub, some people will be upset if it is taught from a secular perspective without proselytizing, others will be upset if it is not taught with too much religious zeal

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:19:49am

re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg

I once got the Yellow Fever vaccine to go to Africa. It is good for ten years.

Oh, man, that hurt for two weeks. That vaccine is horrible. However, Yellow Fever is far worse.

Fortunately, that isn’t a vaccine you need in the USA.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:20:11am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fun fact: Jesus didn’t force people to follow him. He simply told them who he was and what he was about and let THEM make up their minds.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:23:09am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Mrs. Robinson, you’re fucking trying to seduce me.

I’ve got one word for you: fucking plastic.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:25:11am

D-R-I-N-K-Y-O-U-R-F-U-C-K-I-N-G-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:25:54am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹

Too bad my mother and my wife’s mother were not. My wife’s mother spent her life in a wheelchair and died of post-polio syndrome. My mother recovered sufficiently to enlist in the US Navy, but now suffers post-polio syndrome.

The last known case in the wild was sixteen miles from my home when I was three.

My mother has limited use of her left arm because of polio.

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nowherenorth2  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:27:26am

I have seen things you wouldn’t fucking believe

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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:28:26am

re: #320 The Ghost of Quesos Past

D-R-I-N-K-Y-O-U-R-F-U-C-K-I-N-G-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E

I thought the lizards were cranky this morning. I see it’s some kind of fucking game.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:28:57am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

This game is too fun. Thanks for the morning smiles.

Entertaining…but why is everyone using “fucking” and not more “fuck” or “fucker” usage. I thought the tweet said use an “F-bomb” in a movie line. Then the person used “fucking” and everyone went with that.

Let’s see some “fuck” examples.

“Fuck, they’re here!”

“Go ahead, make my day fucker.”

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Archangelus  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:31:41am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:31:50am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:32:24am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:32:35am

re: #325 Archangelus

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Been hanging out with Scottish people? :)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:32:37am

re: #324 ObserverArt

I was actually wondering this too lol.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:32:55am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

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Tone deaf jackass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:33:26am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

And this kids, is what hypocrisy and narcissism looks like.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:33:43am

re: #329 Eclectic Cyborg

I was actually wondering this too lol.

To fuck or not to fuck. Yeah Hamlet I know and not a movie originally.

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ckkatz  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:33:50am

re: #317 Anymouse 🌹

I once got the Yellow Fever vaccine to go to Africa. It is good for ten years.

Oh, man, that hurt for two weeks. That vaccine is horrible. However, Yellow Fever is far worse.

Fortunately, that isn’t a vaccine you need in the USA.

———

At least right now:

1793 Philadelphia yellow fever epidemic

During the Yellow Fever Epidemic of 1793 in Philadelphia, 5,000 or more people were listed in the official register of deaths between August 1 and November 9. The vast majority of them died of yellow fever, making the epidemic in the city of 50,000 people one of the most severe in United States history.

en.wikipedia.org

Maybe:

Miami among cities at risk from yellow fever spread : study

Miami is at risk of a deadly yellow fever outbreak because the disease could thrive there but the city has no checks on travelers arriving from endemic zones, a study to be published by the World Health Organization showed.

reuters.com

U.S. doctors sound alarm on yellow fever outbreak

Top infectious disease specialists are warning that a yellow fever outbreak in the jungles of Brazil could bring the disease to the United States.

cbsnews.com

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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:35:57am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That was very relaxing.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:36:06am

re: #333 ckkatz

———

At least right now:

1793 Philadelphia yellow fever epidemic

en.wikipedia.org

Maybe:

Miami among cities at risk from yellow fever spread : study

reuters.com

U.S. doctors sound alarm on yellow fever outbreak

cbsnews.com

I’ve read about New Orleans and the Florida Keys having malaria outbreaks in the 19th century. I get why the past fascinates people but to the point of thinking it was better? Amusing to me.

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Archangelus  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:37:11am

Oh, it’s very much believable insofar as I’m concerned…

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:37:20am

Baffling bullshit from SMOTI:

Because of course…

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Kilroy was here  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:37:55am

……WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A FUCKING GAME?…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:38:12am

“I want to fucking believe.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:38:37am

re: #337 lawhawk

Baffling bullshit from SMOTI:

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Because of course…

Maybe conservatives violate their Terms more but nah can’t be that. Has to be a great conspiracy to censor baby conservatives.

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Archangelus  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:39:25am

re: #337 lawhawk

Baffling bullshit from SMOTI:

[Embedded content]

Because of course…

I think you got the equation wrong:
Baffling bullshit = SMOTI
/

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Jay C  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:39:25am

re: #325 Archangelus

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This woman is nuckin’ futz: I’m from the Baby Boom generation, and I never had measles as a kid. Because I got a measles vaccination (as did every one of my contemporaries)!

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:40:17am

A wag at Wonkette:

Someone tell them if you don’t vaccinate your kids they will turn into Democratic Socialists.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:40:43am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:40:46am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Maybe conservatives violate their Terms more but nah can’t be that. Has to be a great conspiracy to censor baby conservatives.

Something something all those bot accounts they follow.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:41:36am

re: #338 Kilroy was here

……WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A FUCKING GAME?…..

There is a rich vein of ambiguity to that phrasing….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:42:05am

Big kitty should be thankful a collection of ne’er-do-wells were looking for a place to smoke some weed

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:42:58am

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹

Something something all those bot accounts they follow.

What you mean that MAGAChick69 with tons of American flags on page is actually Mikhail in Moscow stirring up shit? For shame!

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CongoJack  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:43:05am

Please sir may have have some fucking more?

I also chose a play.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:43:09am

re: #170 lawhawk

Updating the totals:

The Archdiocese of Newark released a list Wednesday of 63 Roman Catholic clergy members that it said have been credibly accused of sexually abusing minors dating back to 1940. Paterson soon followed suit with a list including 28.

The Archdiocese of Metuchen released a list that included 10 priests and 1 permanent deacon.

We’re over 100 members of the clergy. Two of the NJ diocese haven’t released the list, and the list doesn’t include names of those currently involved in lawsuits.

UPDATE:

Make that 188 members of the clergy (priests and deacons).

There are 188 names on the lists from the five dioceses. They include 63 priests and deacons accused in the Archdiocese of Newark, 56 in the Diocese of Camden, 28 in the Diocese of Paterson, 30 in the Diocese of Trenton and 11 in the Diocese of Metuchen.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:43:38am

re: #293 makeitstop

What the fucking fuck is up with those eyebrows???

She looks like she has some heavier than average eyebrows - think Brooke Shields when she was younger if you know who she is - and sends a lot of time at the salon getting them cut.

Edit: On further view, I’ve got it backwards. She’s coloring them in, for reasons unknown.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:44:09am

re: #347 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Big kitty should be thankful a collection of ne’er-do-wells were looking for a place to smoke some weed

Also happening in Texas

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:45:38am

‘Back off, man. I’m a fucking scientist.’

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:46:39am

re: #278 lawhawk

Prior presidents installed bowling alleys and swimming pools, so a golf simulator isn’t out of character for the WH.

A $50k golf simulator is cheaper than Trump jetting off to one of his business resorts where he profits from every trip and bills taxpayers for all his flights.

I get the feeling golf is now the only fun Trump has anymore. And if he keeps banging on those little balls and things around him continue to crash and burn golf will no longer calm him from the pressures.

It is an addiction he is using to cover the fact he is a mess.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:46:58am

re: #277 ObserverArt

Damn “Heartbeat” bill is back up in Ohio. It passed last year but got tabled when John Kasich (yeah, that John Kasich) refused to sign it.

Now living GOP establishment fossil Mike DeWine is in office a few weeks and here it comes again. Everyone figures it will be signed by the little creep.

I’ve gotten two text messages from Ohio Democratic organizations asking me to call local reps and voice my displeasure this morning.

Sneaky fucks brought it up again late at night to surprise everyone today.

‘beating’ or not, “six weeks into a pregnancy” it is not yet a ‘heart’

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Dr. Matt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:48:16am

re: #10 bd(Enquiring minds want to know!)

Lyndon LaRouche supporters were/are the original BernieBros.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:48:23am

re: #351 Belafon

She looks like she has some heavier than average eyebrows - think Brooke Shields when she was younger if you know who she is - and sends a lot of time at the salon getting them cut.

Edit: On further view, I’ve got it backwards. She’s coloring them in, for reasons unknown.

Eyebrow stencils. It’s a thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:48:44am

re: #352 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Four malnourished children who were rescued from a North Texas barn have been placed into foster care. Authorities say two of them had been locked in a dog cage and their younger siblings were smeared with excrement.

not much worse than what the Trump administration did with children of asylum seekers

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:49:47am

re: #356 Dr. Matt

Lyndon LaRouche supporters were/are the original BernieBros.

Yeah I think you’re on to something. LaRouche definitely was the first modern cult of personality in American politics.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:50:56am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

I remember my parents taking me to get the polio vaccine when I was 4. They said they were taking me to kindergarten and I was so excited! We went to the school and there was a big crowd of people and kids. But instead of going to the kindergarten and having a bunch of fun with other kids, I got a needle stick.

That was the Salk vaccine. I remember going to the local elementary school in my neighborhood and we got the Sabin sugar cube in a little Dixie cup.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:51:32am

re: #337 lawhawk

Baffling bullshit from SMOTI:

Because of course…

Considering conservatives are aholes at 42:1 ratio, they’re actually getting off easy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:52:52am

Such a dapper gent

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:53:21am

re: #347 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Big kitty should be thankful a collection of ne’er-do-wells were looking for a place to smoke some weed

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Yeah, that would have sucked a month later.

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Archangelus  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:54:34am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Been hanging out with Scottish people? :)

Hehe, I should be so lucky, as the relatively few Scots I’ve known over the years have been far more creative (and often brilliantly vulgar at the same time) than I’ve been… :D

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ckkatz  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:54:52am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

I’ve read about New Orleans and the Florida Keys having malaria outbreaks in the 19th century. I get why the past fascinates people but to the point of thinking it was better? Amusing to me.

Yup, the veneer of modern medicine’s miracles is very thin.

One of the recent rabbit holes I went down recently was on hookworm in the south and how some historians view it as the underlying cause for the meme of southerners being lazy and stupid.

Behind private label because tropical parasitology is kind of gross…

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Dr. Matt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:55:00am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think you’re on to something. LaRouche definitely was the first modern cult of personality in American politics.

When I lived in Houston, they faithfully setup a table every weekend in a major outdoor shopping district near Rice University. Bless their hearts…..

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:55:22am

Being Raised by Two Narcissists Taught Me How to Deal with Trump

If I can’t technically call Trump a narcissist, he sure looks like an asshole. And assholes will do what’s needed to elicit behaviors from the people around them to ensure they get what they want.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:56:08am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: Jesus didn’t force people to follow him. He simply told them who he was and what he was about and let THEM make up their minds.

Jesus was a terrible businessman and fund raiser!

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:56:58am

re: #311 Anymouse 🌹

Vaccines do indeed cause autism (and for Pete’s sake, don’t trust @snopes for your news on this matter or any other alternative health news):

hey ben,

your link doesnt say that

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:57:52am

re: #364 Archangelus

Hehe, I should be so lucky, as the relatively few Scots I’ve known over the years have been far more creative (and often brilliantly vulgar at the same time) than I’ve been… :D

Met a few of them this past summer and told them how much I love their insults. Really nice people too and a blast to hang out with.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:58:25am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and there’s the rub, some people will be upset if it is taught from a secular perspective without proselytizing, others will be upset if it is not taught with too much religious zeal

rub it may be ;-)

the first is constitutional
the second is not

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 9:58:45am

re: #366 Dr. Matt

When I lived in Houston, they faithfully setup a table every weekend in a major outdoor shopping district near Rice University. Bless their hearts…..

I haven’t really encountered them ever but the zeal Bernie inspires also reminds me of Ron Paul 11 years ago.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:00:08am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: Jesus didn’t force people to follow him. He simply told them who he was and what he was about and let THEM make up their minds.

i’ve spent my entire professional teaching life (mostly sports, some computer tech), saying over and over again:

i’m not telling you what to do
i’m explaining what i know works

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:02:10am

re: #337 lawhawk

Baffling bullshit from SMOTI:

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Because of course…

Even if true, here is a thought experiment.
Two people come to your house. One sits and talks about the goings on of their day. The other yells at the top of their lungs and takes a shit on your carpet. Which one are you going to insist leave your premises?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:02:49am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Entertaining…but why is everyone using “fucking” and not more “fuck” or “fucker” usage. I thought the tweet said use an “F-bomb” in a movie line. Then the person used “fucking” and everyone went with that.

Let’s see some “fuck” examples.

“Fuck, they’re here!”

“Go ahead, make my day fucker.”

“what we have here is a failure to communicate, you fuck.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:05:30am

re: #337 lawhawk

SHOCKING NEW STUDY Finds Twitter Censors Conservatives over Liberals at a 21:1 Ratio

Maybe it’s true that conservatives are 2x as likely to be assholes on twitter. Simple cause and effect. No preferential treatment needed.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:05:44am

re: #375 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Fuck! That’s no moon. That’s a space station.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:06:13am

re: #334 wrenchwench

That was very relaxing.

you run for yourself.

for all we know that was a PR

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:06:17am

re: #366 Dr. Matt

When I lived in Houston, they faithfully setup a table every weekend in a major outdoor shopping district near Rice University. Bless their hearts…..

They still set up a table outside our local post office when the weather’s nice.

Haven’t seen them lately, but they were always there when Obama was president. Peskier than mosquitoes, they were.

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BeachDem  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:07:38am

re: #366 Dr. Matt

When I lived in Houston, they faithfully setup a table every weekend in a major outdoor shopping district near Rice University. Bless their hearts…..

My favorite La Rouchite encounter story:

“On what planet do you spend most of your time?”

“Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table, I have no interest in doing it.”

Barney Frank Confronts Woman At Townhall Comparing Obama To Hitler

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:08:13am

They call me “Mr. Fucking Tibbs”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:08:14am

re: #380 BeachDem

My favorite La Rouchite encounter story:

“On what planet do you spend most of your time?”

“Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table, I have no interest in doing it.”

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I miss him. Barney Frank is awesome.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:08:16am

re: #375 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

“what we have here is a failure to communicate, you fuck.”

Some men, you just can’t fucking reach.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:08:34am

Beware the smart devices (h/t Engadget)

You’d expect voice assistants to collect data whenever you control a smart home device — that’s how they work. Amazon and Google have lately been asking for a continuous flow of data in the name of convenience, however, and those device makers aren’t always happy. Bloomberg has learned that Logitech and other hardware makers (some speaking anonymously) have objected to these requests for a steady stream of information over concerns they could violate privacy. Logitech has purposefully provided generic information rather than talking about individual devices, while others have reportedly asked for privacy “concessions” and have been rejected.

The companies say they need this information for the sake of faster response to voice commands as well as ensuing that smart displays have up to date information. It might be difficult to avoid sending at least some continuous information. However, there are concerns the constant supply of data could be used to piece together your habits — when you leave for work, watch TV and go to bed. That’s potentially valuable for marketing and customer research.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:09:36am

re: #346 The Ghost of Quesos Past

There is a rich vein of ambiguity to that phrasing….

well they wouldnt have almost nuked the soviets…

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:10:21am

re: #384 Eclectic Cyborg

Beware the smart devices (h/t Engadget)

Like my wife always says - Alexa=wiretap.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:10:36am

The Trump guy who put abortion drugs in a woman’s drink so she would have an abortion without knowledge is now suing. Good luck with that.

Ex-Trump Aide Jason Miller Subpoenas Reporters in Insane Lawsuit Over Stripper Claim

thedailybeast.com

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:12:25am

re: #354 ObserverArt

I get the feeling golf is now the only fun Trump has anymore. And if he keeps banging on those little balls and things around him continue to crash and burn golf will no longer calm him from the pressures.

It is an addiction he is using to cover the fact he is a mess.

but obama….oh why bother

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ThomasLite  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:13:08am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Entertaining…but why is everyone using “fucking” and not more “fuck” or “fucker” usage. I thought the tweet said use an “F-bomb” in a movie line. Then the person used “fucking” and everyone went with that.

Let’s see some “fuck” examples.

“Fuck, they’re here!”

“Go ahead, make my day fucker.”

And the other shame is that hardly anybody seems to realise “fucking” is not just an adjective. I can’t find the tweet any more (not quickly anyway) but as far as I’m concerned the thread was won about half an hour in by the guy who came up with “-Luke, I’m fucking your father. - Noooooooooooooo!”.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:16:03am

re: #383 makeitstop

Some men, you just can’t fucking reach.

“i can eat fifty fucking eggs”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:16:35am
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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:18:51am

re: #317 Anymouse 🌹

I once got the Yellow Fever vaccine to go to Africa. It is good for ten years.

Oh, man, that hurt for two weeks. That vaccine is horrible. However, Yellow Fever is far worse.

Fortunately, that isn’t a vaccine you need in the USA.

I got the same vaccine about a year ago. No particular bad effects. (It’s produced in chick embryos, so many people do have bad reactions).

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:19:34am

re: #390 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

What we’ve got here is a failure to fucking communicate.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:19:52am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brandon Higgs—who attended the racist Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017—has been charged with hate crimes for shouting racial slurs at & shooting a black construction worker. He has a long history of racist, antisemitic rhetoric online. thedailybeast.com

— Hatewatch (@Hatewatch) February 13, 2019

He’s another Soros Plant.

//

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:20:54am

YouTube

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:21:13am
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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:21:16am

re: #390 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

“i can eat fifty fucking eggs”

‘My Lord, whatever I done, don’t strike me blind for another couple of fucking minutes.’ :)

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:26:23am

“get busy fucking or get busy dying”

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:27:15am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

I miss him. Barney Frank is awesome.

Can you just imagine AOC and Barney ganging up together on the GOP? It warms my heart to imagine that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:27:27am

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

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McCarthy isn’t that smart politically is he?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:27:44am

re: #397 makeitstop

‘My Lord, whatever I done, don’t strike me blind for another couple of fucking minutes.’ :)

“Boy, she knows exactly what the fuck she’s doing.”

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:30:20am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Winky: I may be slow, but don’t I look great?! Besides, what’s the big hurry anyway?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:32:03am

Pilgrim, you caused a lot of trouble this morning. Might have got somebody killed, and somebody ought to belt you in the mouth, but I won’t.

The fuck I won’t.

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sagehen  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:34:56am

re: #400 HappyWarrior

McCarthy isn’t that smart politically is he?

McCarthy’s the one who admitted, out loud in public and in front of a microphone, that the reason for all the Benghazi investigations was to bring down Hillary’s poll numbers in advance of the election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:35:11am
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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:35:13am


What happened when I told Marie Kondo I have a better, higher-tech method of tidying up

Don’t click on the link. It’s a fucking trash boat article but I feel obliged to cite properly.

Every single shallow counter-intuitive take on Marie Kondo…invariably by a white person…is a brick of compressed urinal cakes.

The lady did not make an absolute statement about her method being the best or only way. This article about digital clutter management literally plows through her proviso of “asks yourself questions about whether this brings you joy” by saying “this kind of clutter does not bother me.” It’s like they’re not hearing the oft-repeated part about the process being voluntary and all about your own comfort levels.

Fucking assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:35:45am

re: #404 sagehen

McCarthy’s the one who admitted, out loud in public and in front of a microphone, that the reason for all the Benghazi investigations was to bring down Hillary’s poll numbers in advance of the election.

Yeah. He’s kind of a loose cannon isn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:36:33am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She apologized. No need to beat it to death.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:40:07am

This should be good…

Stone’s alleging that Mueller gave a sealed indictment re: Stone to CNN.

These people are off their rockers. Considering everything else Mueller has or hasn’t done - there’s no way that a team that has been leak-free in so many other aspects of the case would leak anything to CNN.

These fuckers can’t get past fact that CNN was following what was going on in EDVA and recognized that Stone was going to be indicted and therefore had a news team waiting.

Same way that any news outfit could spend the resources to tail Junior and Kushner to be there when those two get indicted (and Junior thinks he’s going to be indicted “any day now”).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:43:59am
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jaunte  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:45:07am
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CongoJack  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:45:36am
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Belafon  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:46:07am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s pretty obvious this diary writer doesn’t like AIPAC, but he makes a note of a few things related to Omar, namely that not only is her criticism unwanted by some, but her and Rep. Tlaib’s existences is unwanted by Saudi Arabia. But there’s a mention in his diary of an earlier diary where McCarthy goes after Omar before her tweet, saying she needs to go because her criticism is as bad or worse than Steve King’s white supremacy.

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:47:40am
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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:47:52am

re: #400 HappyWarrior

McCarthy isn’t that smart politically is he?

He is a complete “fucking” lightweight. Been saying that since he was elected Minority Leader.

The Democrats under Pelosi will eat his lunch.

Really I can’t believe he is their leader, but when you look at the whole GOP House cast of characters, there isn’t much there that isn’t stupid or crazy.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:48:58am

re: #404 sagehen

McCarthy’s the one who admitted, out loud in public and in front of a microphone, that the reason for all the Benghazi investigations was to bring down Hillary’s poll numbers in advance of the election.

And that is exactly when I learned he was dense as hell.

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retired cynic  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:49:38am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, she’s obviously been raised wrong, but EYEBROWS! WTF?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:50:57am

WAPO:

“At the start of the town hall CNN gave Howard Schultz on Tuesday night, anchor Poppy Harlow promised, ‘We’re going to talk about all the issues, because that’s what this is about.’”

“Unfortunately, Schultz spent the next hour studiously avoiding taking a position on much of anything.”

while the conclusion was predictable, why the hell is CNN giving a billionaire free airtime?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:52:25am

re: #388 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

but obama….oh why bother

ok I stand corrected, cause here’s the second part of the story:

That system replaced an older, less sophisticated golf simulator that had been installed under President Obama… Trump’s system cost about $50,000, and was put in during the last few weeks in a room in his personal quarters.”

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:54:07am

The Trump family is a bunch of corrupt, evil, bad actors.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:56:35am

re: #415 ObserverArt

He is a complete “fucking” lightweight. Been saying that since he was elected Minority Leader.

The Democrats under Pelosi will eat his lunch.

Really I can’t believe he is their leader, but when you look at the whole GOP House cast of characters, there isn’t much there that ins’t stupid or crazy.

Trump is an ignorant lightweight too — and that propelled him into the White House. McCarthy is a perfect representative of the Republican base and thanks to the Constitution, these people are way over represented in the Senate and, courtesy of gerrymandering and voter suppression, also in the House

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:57:09am

re: #420 jaunte

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The Trump family is a bunch of corrupt, evil, bad actors.

I am so sick of Ivanka Trump’s fake face. In some ways, she disgusts me more than her Dad or brothers since the three of them are more transparent about what they really are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2019 • 10:57:31am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:00:09am

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All you need to know is the white supremacists thought and think Trump has their back. Stephen Miller remains Trump’s chief adviser. He is Richard Spencer’s protege.

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Jay C  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:04:23am

re: #415 ObserverArt

He is a complete “fucking” lightweight. Been saying that since he was elected Minority Leader.

The Democrats under Pelosi will eat his lunch.

Really I can’t believe he is their leader, but when you look at the whole GOP House cast of characters, there isn’t much there that isn’t stupid or crazy.

SRSLY: Kevin’s probably where he is only because it was his “turn”. I realize that the GOP in the House in the 116th Congress, being the Minority, don’t have all that much power - thanks to House rules they put through, and were only too ready to take advantage of when they were the Majority - but McCarthy and Scalise are definitely the “B Team”. I mean, Paul Ryan was also a thorough “B-Teamer”, but (disgracefully) got pumped up by the GOP and the media as this Great Legislative Genius; years of FAIL notwithstanding.
But then again, it’s the House Republicans: the Stupid And Crazy have a sort of veto power over the Sane And Capable: mediocrities like McCarthy are probably the best they can do.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:05:04am

re: #408 HappyWarrior

She apologized. No need to beat it tough.

But it was a LAME apology.

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Old Liberal  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:05:10am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: Jesus didn’t force people to follow him. He simply told them who he was and what he was about and let THEM make up their minds.

I think he is quoted as saying some people were sheep and others were goats and the goats were going to be punished good. I think he’s also quoted as saying that if you don’t accept him you will burn in hell forever. So there is a clear threat issued there, for the record. “Ya don’t have to join my group just let me tell you what happens if’n you don’t “

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:11:04am

re: #413 Belafon

I’m not a fan of AIPAC either, then again I am not a fan of any PAC tbh. Honestly I am disgusted by how the dems dragged Omar through the ringer and made her apologize for something she should never have had to apologize for. She rightly criticized just how much AIPAC money holds sway (and the diarist points to actual quotes by various leaders of AIPAC). Add the Saudis into the mix and I loathe what’s being done even more. Seriously, on this one fuck Schumer and Pelosi and the rest. There was some dem representative on MSNBC calling Omar’s comments Horrible etc, etc. In other words it’s a pile on and people aren’t reading or thinking for themselves.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:15:45am

re: #420 jaunte

What Ivanka is proposing here is not “paid family leave”. Making people raid their own Social Security benefits and push back their retirement is a terrible idea.

In fact, it would discourage businesses that already have actual paid family leave programs from continuing them.

The Trump family is a bunch of corrupt, evil, bad actors.

“you can eat your fill of all the food your bring yourself”

YouTube

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:19:03am

re: #428 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’m not a fan of AIPAC either, then again I am not a fan of any PAC tbh. Honestly I am disgusted by how the dems dragged Omar through the ringer and made her apologize for something she should never have had to apologize for. She rightly criticized just how much AIPAC money holds sway (and the diarist points to actual quotes by various leaders of AIPAC). Add the Saudis into the mix and I loathe what’s being done even more. Seriously, on this one fuck Schumer and Pelosi and the rest. There was some dem representative on MSNBC calling Omar’s comments Horrible etc, etc. In other words it’s a pile on and people aren’t reading or thinking for themselves.

unfortunately, nothing new

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:44:30am

re: #418 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

WAPO:

while the conclusion was predictable, why the hell is CNN giving a billionaire free airtime?

As an alleged political candidate, news coverage becomes news coverage and not an advert.

If it’s fair, they would give all candidates equal time (curse you Ronald Reagan over the Fairness Doctrine) so Warren, Booker, Harris, Klobuchar, &c) would also get the same.

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Alephnaught  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:45:25am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Can artificial intelligence prevent the next Parkland shooting?

Why not existing human intelligence? That seems to work in other parts of the world.

This story is just so frustrating to me. It just seems to me like another example of too many privileged US folks putting off the realisation that they’re going to have to get their hands dirty, and deal with this gun violence problem in a personal capacity.

There’s a reason why I say this. As far as I can see, gun violence in the US has got to the point where, without any progress on that front, this issue is going to personally affect the sort of people I’m taking about, and in the near future, if it hasn’t already happened . And I suspect many of them are aware of this, and are in denial about the obvious implications.

Hence, guff in the media, like this story about pie-in-the-sky technological “solutions” to problems which only exist due to political and mental impasse, which defer actual action in favour of empty gestures which usually target anyone but the actual perpetrator. In short, ignoring the elephant in the room.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:45:58am

re: #428 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’m not a fan of AIPAC either, then again I am not a fan of any PAC tbh. Honestly I am disgusted by how the dems dragged Omar through the ringer and made her apologize for something she should never have had to apologize for. She rightly criticized just how much AIPAC money holds sway (and the diarist points to actual quotes by various leaders of AIPAC). Add the Saudis into the mix and I loathe what’s being done even more. Seriously, on this one fuck Schumer and Pelosi and the rest. There was some dem representative on MSNBC calling Omar’s comments Horrible etc, etc. In other words it’s a pile on and people aren’t reading or thinking for themselves.

Democratic politicians need more AOC lessons in social media, since this was originally pushed by Matthew Heinbach’s girlfriend, and even roped in Chelsea Clinton.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2019 • 11:47:30am

re: #432 Alephnaught

That’s the point. It cannot be the fault of the gun or the laws surrounding guns. It must be something else.

NRA delenda est.


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