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Single-handed sailor  Feb 16, 2019 • 9:49:30pm

I was digging through my pen jar and found a vape pen battery. It still holds a charge, and now that I use a Cannabis Delivery service I’m going to have to give a THC vape cartridge a test drive.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:05:52pm
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Single-handed sailor  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:11:01pm

re: #2 Patricia Kayden

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I saw Trump boasting Abe nominated him, yesterday. I’m not sure why he would.

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Targetpractice  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:11:11pm

re: #2 Patricia Kayden

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These idiots couldn’t run a bath.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:25:46pm

I just saw on the last thread that Bernie recorded a video announcing his 2020 run to be the Democratic candidate for President.

I thought he couldn’t run as a Democrat anymore…or have I missed something?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:28:55pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

I just saw on the last thread that Bernie recorded a video announcing his 2020 run to be the Democratic candidate for President.

I thought he couldn’t run as a Democrat anymore…or have I missed something?

Here’s the video!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:44:43pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here’s the video!

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And Bernie Kopell’s 85—the BernieBots should like him even better!

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austin_blue  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:47:39pm

Jimmy Breslin wrote a book called “The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight” about an incompetent NY crime syndicate. It was hilarious. It was fiction.

What we now have in this Administration is a NY syndicate that is “The Gang That Doesn’t Know How A Gun Works”. It’s not fiction. It’s not funny at all.

Night all. Sweet dreams.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:55:27pm

re: #7 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And Bernie Kopell’s 85—the BernieBots should like him even better!

True story.

Several friends went to Canter’s Deli after we finished the RAZZIE show. We’re seated and ordering our food. Bernie is at a table with a couple folks I think Don Adams was there with them and they were cracking jokes with each other. We couldn’t stop laughing. Bernie comes over and starts talking like Siegfried and says “YOU VILL CLEAN YOUR PLATES OR I WILL TELL YOUR PARENTS”. We couldn’t stop laughing. And he loved hearing us laugh.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2019 • 10:57:32pm

From the last thread:

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 16, 2019 • 11:03:46pm

Putin’s up to something.

The president of Belarus has said the country is ready to unite with long-time ally Russia, raising the prospect of Moscow absorbing the eastern European dictatorship on the borders of Poland and Lithuania.

President Alexander Lukashenko, who has ruled the former Soviet state since the presidential post was created in 1994, said Friday his nation was ready to join with Russia, The Moscow Times reported.

Lukashenko made the comments on the third and final day of bilateral talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Rumors have long abounded that Belarus could be absorbed into Russia under Putin’s watch, deepening the “union state” arrangement that has existed between them since the late 1990s.

“The two of us could unite tomorrow, no problem,” Lukashenko said Friday. “But are you—Russians and Belarusians—ready for it?” the president added, according to Interfax. “We’re ready to unite and consolidate our efforts, states and peoples as far as we’re ready.”

But here’s the important thing to notice:

Putin’s presidential term will end in 2024, and the current constitution prevents him for running again. It has been suggested that he could bypass these restrictions by creating a new nation through a union with Belarus.

The president voiced his support for the idea as long ago as 2011, when he said a union was “possible, desirable and wholly dependent on the will of the Belarusian people.”

newsweek.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 16, 2019 • 11:08:20pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

Putin’s up to something.

But here’s the important thing to notice:

newsweek.com

Now we see why Trump AND the Republican Party are hell bent on destroying NATO.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 16, 2019 • 11:45:57pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

These idiots couldn’t run a bath.

they only do golden showers

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Dave In Austin  Feb 16, 2019 • 11:47:59pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:11:34am

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:46:09am

I’m half way through the first episode of the 2019 series Project Blue Book, and while the producers appear to have attempted to make a serious and decent show (it gets decent ratings on IMDB), I’m finding my interest lacking.

It’s all been done before.

And more to the point, the entire genre now seems OBE.

I remember when this story popped up last fall: What is behind the decline in UFO sightings?

And it’s not just UFOs - there is a decline in BigFoot alleged visual evidence, fewer ghost stories, etc.

The Guardian article mentions the ready accessibility of high quality video recording as one reason for the decline. That is probably so.

But I think there is another factor at work here.

The rise of the “nones” is making society less superstitious.

Slow it may be, but there is a real side effect coming off of the move away from religious indoctrination and practices.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:55:25am
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:23:00am
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:24:05am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:25:32am
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:25:40am

Also, not currently “war-time”.

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MsJ  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:28:37am

This thread!! Nostalgia. Big time.

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MsJ  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:38:01am

I don’t know who this person is but HAHAHA.

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:49:54am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:05:26am

re: #24 MsJ

Here’s more:

A West Virginia woman who previously called our forever First Lady Michelle Obama “an ape in heels” has pleaded guilty to embezzling more than $18,000 in FEMA disaster benefits after the devastating June 2016 floods that claimed lives and significant property, U.S. Attorney Mike Stuart’s Office says.

Pamela Taylor admitted in court that she took more than $18,000 in flood relief benefits by falsely registering for FEMA benefits after the June 2016 floods that killed more than 20 West Virginians, WSAZ-3 reports.

essence.com

She’s agreed to pay restitution of $18K and some change, but she’s still potentially looking at 30 years in the slammer and a half-million dollar fine when she’s sentenced on March 30th.

Karma’s a bitch.

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MsJ  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:08:47am

re: #26 Dr Lizardo

I love it when these hateful, horrible people have a bit of comeuppance.

Not that they’ll really learn or anything.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:21:01am
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:38:13am

Curious, would you get a tattoo from a joint that advertised itself as a “copacetic bitcoin emporium”

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:43:09am
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MsJ  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:47:03am

Hmmmm. Why do I not believe this?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:49:22am

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:51:27am

re: #26 Dr Lizardo

Here’s more:

essence.com

She’s agreed to pay restitution of $18K and some change, but she’s still potentially looking at 30 years in the slammer and a half-million dollar fine when she’s sentenced on March 30th.

Karma’s a bitch.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:04:06am

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

Pence was almost certainly expecting applause after that line; his reaction was like “Oh shit, why aren’t they applauding? I’ve lost the audience.”

You can see it on his face and the way he hitched in his breath.

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MsJ  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:09:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:12:01am

BBL.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:15:24am

re: #35 MsJ

Sen. Whitehouse: There’s a ‘Crisis of Credibility’ at the U.S. Supreme Court

Bush v. Gore didn’t tell him that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2019 • 4:07:57am

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

OMG — Pence was visibly shook in Poland when he received absolutely no reaction to what was clearly supposed to be an applause line about how “the time has come for our European partners to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal.” pic.twitter.com

at least they didn’t laugh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 4:17:04am

moron is so full of shit

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 17, 2019 • 4:52:19am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is so full of shit

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Translation from the Chinese: China gets what it asks for.
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{Also, my Internet went out a few hours ago. Thank the stars for USB tethering to mobile phones.}

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fern01  Feb 17, 2019 • 4:59:41am

re: #31 MsJ

Hmmmm. Why do I not believe this?

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It could well be law, but trump and ICE have ignored the year for the past 2 years

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 5:06:20am
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jeffreyw  Feb 17, 2019 • 5:07:21am

Good morning!

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 5:27:04am

It is up and seething because SNL mocked his stupidity. This is not normal.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 17, 2019 • 5:37:55am

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

It is up and seething because SNL mocked his stupidity. This is not normal.

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Or perhaps he’s seen this:

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 17, 2019 • 5:39:55am

re: #45 Barefoot Grin

Or perhaps he’s seen this:

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Nah. He’s more set off by watching someone mocking him on TV. He would not be reading some newspaper about something he probably doesn’t understand.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 17, 2019 • 5:53:27am

re: #46 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

This. He has no concept of subtlety; not the the subpoena is subltle, but orange shit-goblin is duuuummmmbbbb.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 5:59:41am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:04:37am

re: #23 MsJ

This thread!! Nostalgia. Big time.

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We have one in the basement.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:12:32am

A little Lovecraft-inspired humor.

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Old Liberal  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:16:37am

Colorado Sporting goods store owner boycotted Nike products due to Kaepernick ad. Now going out of business and admits he did it to himself. Doesn’t regret it. Were the Hitler Youth as fanatical as these maga types?

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:17:18am
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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:18:31am

re: #51 Old Liberal

Colorado Sporting goods store owner boycotted Nike products due to Kaepernick ad. Now going out of business and admits he did it to himself. Doesn’t regret it. Were the Hitler Youth as fanatical as these maga types?

lol and you can’t find a wingnuttier city than Colorado Springs either.

Maybe he can open up a cake shop?

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:19:49am

re: #45 Barefoot Grin

The shoes keep dropping and Trump can hear the footsteps closing in behind him.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:19:51am

I usually do anything I can to avoid hearing his voice, but this is kind of funny:

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ericblair  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:20:06am

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

OMG — Pence was visibly shook in Poland when he received absolutely no reaction to what was clearly supposed to be an applause line about how “the time has come for our European partners to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal.”

It’s sort of worrying that he was dumb and/or deluded enough to expect any sort of positive reaction to this.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:20:13am

re: #11 Belafon

From the last thread:

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My biggest worry is that all of the other credible candidates split the none-Bernie vote, and the Bernie vote is a large enough slice that, like Trump, he ends up with the nomination. Though with the Democrats system of proportional distribution of delegates, he may not be able to. However that leads to the problem that if he goes to the convention with the largest batch of delegates, even though less than a majority, and loses in a second round of balloting to a more mainstream candidate with the support of superdelegates, the Berniebros become enraged and work to undermine the nominee. So lets hope Bernie doesn’t do well in the early primaries and the Democrats rally around one or two of the other contenders.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:23:38am

Wherever did they get this idea from? Hmmm.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:23:41am

re: #56 ericblair

It’s sort of worrying that he was dumb and/or deluded enough to expect any sort of positive reaction to this.

You live in a bubble, you think the world is the bubble.

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steve_davis  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:23:48am

re: #8 austin_blue

Jimmy Breslin wrote a book called “The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight” about an incompetent NY crime syndicate. It was hilarious. It was fiction.

What we now have in this Administration is a NY syndicate that is “The Gang That Doesn’t Know How A Gun Works”. It’s not fiction. It’s not funny at all.

Night all. Sweet dreams.

The Big Apple Trumpling Gang

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Old Liberal  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:24:53am

re: #56 ericblair

It’s sort of worrying that he was dumb and/or deluded enough to expect any sort of positive reaction to this.

Shunning is a powerful reaction for Homo sapiens. We instinctively understand that to be banned from the group means death. Arguing doesn’t work. Shunning stuns people into dealing with the reality of their behavior.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:28:28am

re: #56 ericblair

It’s sort of worrying that he was dumb and/or deluded enough to expect any sort of positive reaction to this.

If he was reading it from cue cards or a printed page, there might have been a line in there like “pause briefly for audience applause” or something to that effect.

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:32:35am

re: #62 Dr Lizardo

If he was reading it from cue cards or a printed page, there might have been a line in there like “pause briefly for audience applause” or something to that effect.

Pence stops and says a silent prayer after every sentence he reads and he also looks around to make sure no women or gays are sneaking up on him.

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steve_davis  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:32:37am

re: #23 MsJ

This thread!! Nostalgia. Big time.

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Nooooo! The only way to win is not to play.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:39:58am

re: #51 Old Liberal

Colorado Sporting goods store owner boycotted Nike products due to Kaepernick ad. Now going out of business and admits he did it to himself. Doesn’t regret it. Were the Hitler Youth as fanatical as these maga types?

Bankrupting yourself to own the libs.

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:43:26am

re: #65 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Bankrupting yourself to own the libs.

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Old Liberal  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:44:08am

re: #65 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Bankrupting yourself to own the libs.

We see it with farmers. Businesses failing due to tariffs. Factory workers losing jobs. Nothing shakes their devotion to this con man who could murder someone on Fifth Avenue. Seriously we need to understand how so many became radicalized

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:45:42am

re: #67 Old Liberal

We see it with farmers. Businesses failing due to tariffs. Factory workers losing jobs. Nothing shakes their devotion to this con man who could murder someone on Fifth Avenue. Seriously we need to understand how so many became radicalized

Eight years of a black man with a vaguely Arabic-sounding name as President.

That’s what did it.

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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:46:45am

re: #65 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Bankrupting yourself to own the libs.

But the echo chamber told me it was going to be different!!

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:47:05am

re: #66 bd (Emergency!)

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Now we’re a brand? A product? Something to be sold?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:47:57am

re: #67 Old Liberal

We see it with farmers. Businesses failing due to tariffs. Factory workers losing jobs. Nothing shakes their devotion to this con man who could murder someone on Fifth Avenue. Seriously we need to understand how so many became radicalized

The repeal of the fairness doctrine allowed the rise of rightwing propaganda first in the form of talk radio epitomized by Rush Limbaugh. Its success probably helped with the launch of Fox News, then the rise of the internet provided a torrent of even more extreme hate propaganda.

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Old Liberal  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:54:05am

re: #71 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The repeal of the fairness doctrine allowed the rise of rightwing propaganda first in the form of talk radio epitomized by Rush Limbaugh. Its success probably helped with the launch of Fox News, then the rise of the internet provided a torrent of even more extreme hate propaganda.

re: #71 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The repeal of the fairness doctrine allowed the rise of rightwing propaganda first in the form of talk radio epitomized by Rush Limbaugh. Its success probably helped with the launch of Fox News, then the rise of the internet provided a torrent of even more extreme hate propaganda.

If this was happening with Muslims here I’m sure something would be done to counteract it. With Christians I guess not.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:54:14am

re: #66 bd (Emergency!)

Yup. That tweet aged like fine shit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2019 • 6:56:15am
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bd (Emergency!)  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:01:19am

re: #67 Old Liberal

We see it with farmers. Businesses failing due to tariffs. Factory workers losing jobs. Nothing shakes their devotion to this con man who could murder someone on Fifth Avenue. Seriously we need to understand how so many became radicalized

Going bankrupt to own the libs.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:03:03am

re: #75 bd (Emergency!)

Oh yeah, these people are well into the “escalation of commitment” phase.

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Jay C  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:06:09am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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Well, here’s here’s one longstanding Presidential tradition Donald Trump has been able to fit right in with: he has this, at least, in common with:

Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
George HW Bush
Bill Clinton
George W Bush
Barack Obama

He’s been mocked on NBC’s Saturday Night Live. And given the likely longevity of that show, it’s a good bet his successor will be as well.
Simple clue for Dolt 45: If he doesn’t like what’s on SNL: don’t watch it. It’s called “freedom of choice”….

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:06:50am

re: #42 Patricia Kayden

I don’t know how many of you watched this last season of Doctor Who. I suspect that those who did, like a lot of people, thought the writing was subpar for most of the episodes, except the Rosa Parks episode. Here’s the big thing I like about this season. Making the character a woman, they could have written the Dame Judi Dench version of the character - prim, upright, rigid, unsmiling (not a characterization of the actress, but the roles she gets) - but they didn’t. The 13th Doctor makes a whole lot of mistakes, and some of them nearly cost people their lives. A character died in the first episode being the type of person we think the Doctor is. The point being, they didn’t change the Doctor to make it safer for the first one that’s a woman. And I think that was a great choice and a great choice for women.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:10:56am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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freetoken  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:10:56am

re: #78 Belafon

Just this morning I was watching a recent review of the last season of Dr. Who. The reviewer is not one of those wanna-be-macho types and actually is supportive of casting a woman as lead, but who like you is critical of the story writing:

The Noble Failures of Doctor Who Series 11 | Video Essay

I didn’t make it past one and half episodes till I gave up on it. But to be fair, I also gave up on The Orville, and even the latest season of ST:D.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:11:59am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

It sounds like DT does not know how to use the off button on his clicker.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:13:45am

That pic yesterday of Trump at his dump club. It looked like someone wiped some orange off his face, did any of y’all notice that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:13:52am

re: #79 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump comes out in favor of re-institution of the Fairness Doctrine. Maybe not a bad idea!

He is coming out in favor of establishing a Ministry of Fairness and Balance and putting Roger Ailes in charge of it…

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:13:56am

re: #57 NO SMOCKING GUN!

My biggest worry is that all of the other credible candidates split the none-Bernie vote, and the Bernie vote is a large enough slice that, like Trump, he ends up with the nomination. Though with the Democrats system of proportional distribution of delegates, he may not be able to. However that leads to the problem that if he goes to the convention with the largest batch of delegates, even though less than a majority, and loses in a second round of balloting to a more mainstream candidate with the support of superdelegates, the Berniebros become enraged and work to undermine the nominee. So lets hope Bernie doesn’t do well in the early primaries and the Democrats rally around one or two of the other contenders.

I understand, and if I could talk to any of the candidates, I would have them make it a part of their candidacy. I would spread among the other candidates, and, with Trump, it is a legitimate political issue.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:14:18am

re: #80 freetoken

Just this morning I was watching a recent review of the last season of Dr. Who. The reviewer is not one of those wanna-be-macho types and actually is supportive of casting a woman as lead, but who like you is critical of the story writing:

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I didn’t make it past one and half episodes till I gave up on it. But to be fair, I also gave up on The Orville, and even the latest season of ST:D.

This may be a minority view, but I’m enjoying ST:D (that colon is kind of important there).

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:15:49am

here’s your fairness doctrine.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:16:10am

re: #82 Ace Rothstein

That pic yesterday of Trump at his dump club. It looked like someone wiped some orange off his face, did any of y’all notice that?

Many people did on Twitter. Natural pale skin tone, just like the area around his eyes. Yet, the White House insists Trump has that bold orange face because of his good genes. I guess his one superpower is a limited kind of camouflage.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:19:00am

re: #67 Old Liberal

We see it with farmers. Businesses failing due to tariffs. Factory workers losing jobs. Nothing shakes their devotion to this con man who could murder someone on Fifth Avenue. Seriously we need to understand how so many became radicalized

This is anecdotal evidence. We know the media seeks out DT supporters. What makes you think everyone in those groups feels that way?

(Also too, the rules still say Bernie can’t run as a Democrat unless he’s a Democrat. And his followers are noisy, not numerous.)

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:19:04am

re: #82 Ace Rothstein

That pic yesterday of Trump at his dump club. It looked like someone wiped some orange off his face, did any of y’all notice that?

A lot of people noticed. I think he sleeps with a full face mask for forced flow oxygen and he didn’t take it off until he wanted an omelet with ketchup.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:22:54am

re: #88 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

(Also too, the rules still say Bernie can’t run as a Democrat unless he’s a Democrat. And his followers are noisy, not numerous.)

And many of his “followers” are not even followers, but rather ratfuckers and bots.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:23:50am

re: #88 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

This is anecdotal evidence. We knoe the media seeks out DT supporters. What makes you think everyone in those groups feels that way?

(Also too, the rules still say Bernie can’t run as a Democrat unless he’s a Democrat. And his followers are noisy, not numerous.)

They don’t need to be numerous, just numerous enough to fuck us up. We can not afford to piss away any anti-Nazi vote.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:26:11am

Nice hairpiece, Jonah. (Meet the Chuck)

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:29:48am

re: #91 Decatur Deb

They don’t need to be numerous, just numerous enough to fuck us up. We can not afford to piss away any anti-Nazi vote.

On the evidence of my deep blue, Bernie-supporting area, that’s not going to happen. The Bernie people have seen the light, and worked with us to support moderates when that’s who was on the ticket. (of course there are always a few die-hards, but not enough to matter.)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:30:04am

Jill Winebanks just now on AM Joy:

“Nixon was a crook, but at least he was our crook.

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:31:54am

re: #67 Old Liberal

We see it with farmers. Businesses failing due to tariffs. Factory workers losing jobs. Nothing shakes their devotion to this con man who could murder someone on Fifth Avenue. Seriously we need to understand how so many became radicalized

It all started when Watergate failed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:32:31am
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Belafon  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:35:06am

re: #80 freetoken

Just this morning I was watching a recent review of the last season of Dr. Who. The reviewer is not one of those wanna-be-macho types and actually is supportive of casting a woman as lead, but who like you is critical of the story writing:

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I didn’t make it past one and half episodes till I gave up on it. But to be fair, I also gave up on The Orville, and even the latest season of ST:D.

If you get a chance, watch the Rosa Parks episode.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:35:26am

re: #93 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

On the evidence of my deep blue, Bernie-supporting area, that’s not going to happen. The Bernie people have seen the light, and worked with us to support moderates when that’s who was on the ticket. (of course there are always a few die-hards, but not enough to matter.)

Hope so. Ex-Bernie kids held the course for us in the last AL election, and were important in the leadership. They don’t react well to losing, however.

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Jay C  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:36:49am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

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Quite agree with Rep. Lieu: but I think he should have mentioned another option for President Trump: i.e. resign, and move to some country that doesn’t have protection for press freedoms. And do us all a favor….

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:36:53am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

SNL on fake news NBC? He needs to learn the difference between news and not-news. An easy mistake to make, though, if Faux is all you watch.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:43:53am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Trump demands to be taken seriously. There’s absolutely nothing that gets under his thin orange-hued skin more than when people mock or deride him.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:44:41am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

“Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:45:19am

Trump calling for a terror attack on NBC is a new low.

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:46:35am
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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:49:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:50:53am

An interesting development regarding Venezuela. Maybe Putin has decided to throw Maduro under the bus.

Russian lender Gazprombank has decided to freeze the accounts of Venezuelan state oil company PDVSA and halted transactions with the firm to reduce the risk of the bank falling under U.S. sanctions, a Gazprombank source told Reuters on Sunday.

While many foreign firms have been cutting their exposure to PDVSA since the sanctions were imposed, the fact that a lender closely aligned with the Russian state is following suit is significant because the Kremlin has been among Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro’s staunchest supporters.

“PDVSA’s accounts are currently frozen. As you’ll understand, operations cannot be carried out,” the source said. Gazprombank did not reply to a Reuters request for a comment.

reuters.com

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:55:48am

re: #70 Eventual Carrion

Now we’re a brand? A product? Something to be sold?

Well…yes.

I’m not saying Wohl has a genuine insight, but what he says is unintentionally revelatory about how people like himself view the USA.

Wohl and people like him are selling a version of America that functions like a brand: fostering loyalty and emotional attachment by evoking sentimentality, to the end of capturing consumers. Anyone with an idea has to “sell” it with rhetoric, and anyone with a public image ends up creating a personal “brand”…but what makes this situation so bad right now—and why there are so many Jacob Wohls—is that this is about the profit motive.

The consumers of the Wohl (…Gingrich..Limbaugh…Trump…FNC…) version of America-as-brand are the same people that consume Christianity-as-a-brand and Whiteness-as-a-brand: that engaging on a shallow, emotional level; people that value symbols without understanding what is symbolized; people that want the general good feeling of belonging. But, I’d argue, more than anything else they’re purchasing license: if conservatives are selling identity as a product, then the value of that product is the promise that you’re better—smarter, more spiritual pure, stronger, entitled—by virtue of your brand engagement.

It’s not just that politics has turned into sport fandom, it’s that politics has turned into the equivalent of the very wealthy institutions fostering and milking team loyal to sell more merch and tickets, even knowing that the fandom is creating hooligans.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 7:56:08am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:08:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:09:16am

stupid criminal of the day

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:10:54am

Hello my friends.

I have a new angle on thwarting climate deniers. It’s a book, very clearly making the case that the planet is in the midst of it’s 6th Great Extinction. And we did it. More dangerous than a meteor, at least most of them.
amazon.com Depressing as hell, read with caution.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:11:22am
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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:11:38am

re: #107 The Ghost of Quesos Past

The extra downer here is that while I focused on the idea of the USA as an affiliation scam extracting cash and engagement from rubes, cults have almost the same internal structure. They differ only in the end game of the leaders. Scammers want to profit and run; cult leaders may start out as profiteers but at some point the intoxication of power means they become engaged in their own hustle and can’t conceive of things ending.

It sucks if our government is being run like an MLM, but lately there’s more guys with power that believe the grift and shit’s beginning to sound more Order of the Solar Temple….

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:12:41am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wanted man steals 50 guitars

I’d suggest looking for a guy in a van.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:14:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:17:36am

last night in Kentucky:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:19:37am
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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:22:54am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:25:51am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Graham probably reckons (and I’d say correctly) that if he isn’t a Trump toady, he’ll get primaried.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:26:52am

Coming soon to the Keep America White party.

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stpaulbear  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:26:54am

re: #56 ericblair

It’s sort of worrying that he was dumb and/or deluded enough to expect any sort of positive reaction to this.

Let’s ask Matthew Yglesias.

There are very few members of congress with whom I’ve ever had the opportunity to discuss a substantive matter of public policy. But as it happens, one of them — the one with whom I’ve had the second-longest exchange — is Mike Pence (R-IN) who I’ve seen on television today repeatedly discussing the Republican Study Group’s “plan” for the financial crisis. And I can tell you this about Mike Pence: he has no idea what he’s talking about. The man is a fool, who deserves to be laughed at. He’s almost stupid enough to work in cable television.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:27:57am

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

Graham probably reckons (and I’d say correctly) that if he isn’t a Trump toady, he’ll get primaried.

And that is if he is not caught up in kompromat.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:30:17am

Um no, Senator Graham.

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Teukka  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:31:02am

re: #50 Dr Lizardo

A little Lovecraft-inspired humor.

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Song related:

Death To The World (with lyrics)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:35:44am

re: #107 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Now we’re a brand? A product? Something to be sold?

Well…yes.

I’m not saying Wohl has a genuine insight, but what he says is unintentionally revelatory about how people like himself view the USA.

Brands must be protected at all costs - why we (i.e., those in the GOP) allowed the Trump brand to wield the reins of the executive branch is something for historians to wrestle with.

Meanwhile, 2020’s coming….

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jeffreyw  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:37:03am

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I keep getting the feeling that previous national emergencies have been more akin to “_________ Awareness Day” than “OMG alien ships have appeared over all the major cities of the world!” I could be wrong.

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Jay C  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:39:09am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

stupid criminal of the day

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This is about on a par with the guy who reputedly robbed a bank with a “GIVE ME YUR MUNEY” note scrawled on his own stationery….

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

Graham probably reckons (and I’d say correctly) that if he isn’t a Trump toady, he’ll get primaried.

Maybe, but by who? I thought the SC GOP kept to a level of party discipline that Stalin would envy. And while it’s not weird to assume that public kissing of The Orange Anus has little downside in SC, Graham seems to have really gone overboard. Must be some potent kompromat stuck away somewhere….

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:41:48am

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Hope so. Ex-Bernie kids held the course for us in the last AL election, and were important in the leadership. They don’t react well to losing, however.

And here in the land of loons, some of the ex-Bernie folks (more old than young, from what I’ve seen) have taken to rallying around Marianne Williamson.

Who, you ask? She’s a declared Dem candidate, basically a woo-woo guru (thanks, Oprah) who ran for the House seat Ted Lieu now holds in 2014. No, seriously, she’s fucking running for president…and actually has followers.

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jeffreyw  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:41:57am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:43:00am

re: #123 Patricia Kayden

Um no, Senator Graham.

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and it’s not just any Kentucky middle school…it’s the one at Ft. Campbell.

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sagehen  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:52:41am

re: #97 Belafon

If you get a chance, watch the Rosa Parks episode.

And the India/Pakistan partition episode.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:54:10am
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:55:08am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Turnabout is fair play DT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:56:19am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2019 • 8:59:06am

So, Frozen 2 is coming….

FROZEN 2 Trailer (2019)

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A Mom Anon  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:01:25am

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

OFFS. It’s like they wake up early just to be the biggest assholes they can be. They truly are using all their powers for evil instead of good. They could be heroes, but nah, what’s in it for them?

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makeitstop  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:01:55am

re: #103 jaunte

Trump calling for a terror attack on NBC is a new low.

Great, I’ve been off doing stuff all weekend. What did I miss here?

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:03:44am
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Jay C  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:05:22am

re: #137 makeitstop

Great, I’ve been off doing stuff all weekend. What did I miss here?

Check the tweet cited in

re: #108 jaunte

The King of Orange incensed at SNL’s latest outrage of lese-majeste

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:05:32am

7th century drystone construction…wow

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:06:29am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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7th century drystone construction…wow

you see? walls work!!!

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:07:57am

re: #137 makeitstop

RETRIBUTION!

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makeitstop  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:08:16am

re: #139 Jay C

Check the tweet cited in

The King of Orange incensed at SNL’s latest outrage of lese-majeste

Ah, ‘retribution.’ Yeah, not too incendiary. Asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:08:54am

but of course…

(WEST PALM BEACH, Fla.) — A top adviser to President Donald Trump indicated Sunday that Trump is prepared to issue the first veto of his term if Congress votes to disapprove of his declaration of a national emergency along the U.S.-Mexico border.

White House senior adviser Stephen Miller told “Fox News Sunday” that “the president is going to protect his national emergency declaration.” Asked if that meant Trump was ready to veto, Miller added, “He’s going to protect his national emergency declaration, guaranteed.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:09:41am
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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:09:47am

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

and it’s not just any Kentucky middle school…it’s the one at Ft. Campbell.

Lindsey doesn’t have to go all the way to Kentucky. He can check out some schools right here in his home state. He can just watch the Bakari Sellers’ documentary—“While I Breathe, I Hope.” (the schools section starts at 13:41)

worldchannel.org

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:10:23am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:13:53am

Well, Karma stung this racist creep and now she’s heading to jail for 30 years!

essence.com

A West Virginia woman who previously called our forever First Lady Michelle Obama “an ape in heels” has pleaded guilty to embezzling more than $18,000 in FEMA disaster benefits after the devastating June 2016 floods that claimed lives and significant property, U.S. Attorney Mike Stuart’s Office says.

Pamela Taylor admitted in court that she took more than $18,000 in flood relief benefits by falsely registering for FEMA benefits after the June 2016 floods that killed more than 20 West Virginians, WSAZ-3 reports.

Taylor lied that her primary residence had been damaged in the flood and that she was forced to rent a place to stay. But it was all a lie and she was still living in her primary residence.

It was just over two years ago that she resigned from her county government development job for coming after Obama in a Facebook post soon after President Donald Trump took office. But she was secretly rehired only weeks later.

In her plea agreement, Taylor agreed to pay restitution of $18,149.04. She faces up to 30 years in prison and a fine of up to $500,000 when she is sentenced on May 30.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:15:01am

re: #125 Eric The Fruit Bat

Brands are empty of meaning*. They attach themselves to concepts with deep cultural implications and strong emotions in an opportunistic way, and re-juggle what concepts they appropriate trying to anticipate appeal. “Protecting” the brand means trimming what decreases engagement and emphasizing what increases engagement.

Which, I think explains the current split over Trumpism. If you look at the president as an advertising strategy rather than a ideologue, the picture of what’s happening in conservative power groups makes sense: they’re trying to gauge whether it’s a winning formula to present in that way, to “sell” their brand, and it’s a completely separate calculation from what they actually believe in and what they will use power to do.

Hence the number of Never Trumpers who criticize him only at the aesthetic level: they’re mad because they view his crassness as decreasing engagement and his policy gaffes as cheapening the brand. And in turn, we’ve been watching individual politicians make a choice about backing the new brand image (90s EXTREME packaging) or cleaving to the old one…purely as a marketing decision.

* unless there is a robust internal culture that has agreed that there are priorities beyond greater efficiency and greater market share…which is pretty damn rare.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:16:58am

re: #149 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Running government as a business.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:18:03am

re: #66 bd (Emergency!)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:18:57am
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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:19:08am

re: #150 jaunte

Specifically, an MLM scam.

eta: because this article is ever-relevant to the subject.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:19:40am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

When the President of the U.S. threatens retribution against his critics, we all need to take it seriously. If he was Trump, the host of a reality show, we could all just shrug off his rants but that is not the case.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:20:13am

re: #153 The Ghost of Quesos Past

“All Associates must first buy an official hat.”

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:22:10am

I still can’t get over the fact that Trump actually out-Baldwined Alec Baldwin with this tweet.

Also, I reported Trump’s tweet for harmful and abusive behavior as he called for ‘retribution’ from his supporters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:22:28am
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:23:04am

re: #148 Joe Bacon 🌹

For up to 30 years. I doubt she’ll get anything close but yes, it’s nice to see her going down. What a nasty human being.

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:23:14am

Oh, and you do need to check out Pence’s face when he delivers an applause line to silence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:23:52am

kitteh encounters shadow…

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:24:34am
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:25:45am

re: #161 jaunte

Orange Anus is not kidding when he speaks of retribution.

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:25:51am

re: #118 jaunte

Lindsey Graham said we’re ‘in a national emergency’ - Trump must have some serious dirt on him.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:26:32am

re: #155 jaunte

“All Associates must first buy an official hat.”

If they start color-coding their hats according to level in the organization, we should probably all flee to Argentina.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:26:45am

re: #163 darthstar

“Nice job you have there, Senator. It’d be a shame if something happened to it.”

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sagehen  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:27:19am

re: #151 Joe Bacon 🌹

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“This week, with past due rent bills portending a court fight he decided to tell his nine employees it was time to call it a career. Everything in the store is 40% off.
Other stores in the mall, including a Sears, are closing. Mall traffic is down.
Martin told CNN affiliate KOAA that his sales had also been affected by people buying more items at online retailers. His sales were down 15% in the past three years.”

So the store was failing anyway, and he made a public fuss to position himself for whatever grift opportunity he sees as next. Maybe appearances and speeches to wingnut conferences?

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:27:36am

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:28:52am

I’m enjoying this meme a bit more than most…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:29:55am

re: #159 darthstar

Oh, and you do need to check out Pence’s face when he delivers an applause line to silence.

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They should have jeered, booed and laughed Pence off of the stage. And someone should have tossed shoes at that sleazy syncopate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:31:30am

re: #166 sagehen

“This week, with past due rent bills portending a court fight he decided to tell his nine employees it was time to call it a career. Everything in the store is 40% off.
Other stores in the mall, including a Sears, are closing. Mall traffic is down.
Martin told CNN affiliate KOAA that his sales had also been affected by people buying more items at online retailers. His sales were down 15% in the past three years.”

So the store was failing anyway, and he made a public fuss to position himself for whatever grift opportunity he sees as next. Maybe appearances and speeches to wingnut conferences?

He’s already been on Fox News. Next he’ll be touring the right wing church circuit saying how he was persecuted for de Lawd!

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darthstar  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:32:55am
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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:33:43am

re: #163 darthstar

Lindsey Graham said we’re ‘in a national emergency’ - Trump must have some serious dirt on him.

I don’t think dirt is required.

Graham has no spine and no character. He made an estimate that a Trumpian gloss will get him more extractive value, and now he’s in sunk cost territory.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:34:07am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:37:42am

re: #128 BeachDem

And here in the land of loons, some of the ex-Bernie folks (more old than young, from what I’ve seen) have taken to rallying around Marianne Williamson.

Who, you ask? She’s a declared Dem candidate, basically a woo-woo guru (thanks, Oprah) who ran for the House seat Ted Lieu now holds in 2014. No, seriously, she’s fucking running for president…and actually has followers.

I had run ins with the Pulpit Pimp back in the 80s when she was telling AIDS victims to stay away from AZT. And then she swooped in and got them to sign over what was left of their savings and equity to her “mini$try”. I’m still mighty pissed at the Los Angeles Kossacks inviting her to speak at a meeting when that pulpit pimp was running for Ted Lieu’s seat. I walked out the minute she opened her mouth and she just grimaced because of the run ins I had with the CENSORED.

She’s every bit the fucking fake that every other goddamned Pulpit Pimp is. No matter how many times Oprah pushed her and that other fake Dr. Phil on her show I knew she’s only in it for that sweet sweet tax exempt faith based cash.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:38:04am

re: #173 Patricia Kayden

Notes From National Emergency: They’re up by one

They are using this game as an excuse to dive under the net and stay there…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:39:34am

re: #163 darthstar

Lindsey Graham said we’re ‘in a national emergency’ - Trump must have some serious dirt on him.

No doubt in my mind that Putin has Kompromat on L’il Lindsay. I’ve heard rumors from folks about the kinky kinky stuff in L’il Lindsay’s KKKloset…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:41:02am

Thoughts?

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:44:23am

re: #177 I Would Prefer Not To

He’s never shot par in his life.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:47:22am

re: #178 Ace Rothstein

He’s never shot par in his life.

Right, all of his scorecards show under par.

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:48:32am

re: #174 Joe Bacon 🌹

I had run ins with the Pulpit Pimp back in the 80s when she was telling AIDS victims to stay away from AZT. And then she swooped in and got them to sign over what was left of their savings and equity to her “mini$try”. I’m still mighty pissed at the Los Angeles Kossacks inviting her to speak at a meeting when that pulpit pimp was running for Ted Lieu’s seat. I walked out the minute she opened her mouth and she just grimaced because of the run ins I had with the CENSORED.

She’s every bit the fucking fake that every other goddamned Pulpit Pimp is. No matter how many times Oprah pushed her and that other fake Dr. Phil on her show I knew she’s only in it for that sweet sweet tax exempt faith based cash.

And while she spews “christian” doctrine, she claims to be Jewish. Oy.

Thanks for the 1st hand account. I often question Oprah’s judgment when she makes stars of these loons—don’t forget her promotion of Dr. Oz and giving Jenny McCarthy a platform for her anti-vax bullshit.

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sagehen  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:57:16am

re: #171 darthstar

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Is he honest-to-gawd threatening to release 800 terrorists into the world if the world doesn’t bend the knee to him?

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sagehen  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:59:02am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, all of his scorecards show under par.

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But Kim Jung Il shot an 18 his first ever game, so…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2019 • 9:59:33am

re: #182 sagehen

But Kim Jung Il shot an 18 his first ever game, so…

Trump shot 17.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:01:20am

This gives ammunition to Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, Ben Shapiro, Michelle Malkin, Steven Crowder, and the rest of the Conservative media to dismiss all hate crimes as liberal hoaxes. As far as I’m concerned, Jussie Smollett is just as worse as those right wing bigots.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:04:09am

re: #184 DodgerFan1988

Do we have any idea why he did this?? Was he just trying to get himself some more exposure or something?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:07:23am

re: #185 Eclectic Cyborg

Do we have any idea why he did this?? Was he just trying to get himself some more exposure or something?

It all sounded rather strange to begin with, I pretty much ignored it and am glad that I did

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:08:07am
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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:14:18am

re: #133 PhillyPretzel

Turnabout is fair play DT.

Trump would be the absolute last person in the world to understand the concept of fair play.

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wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:18:53am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:21:53am

re: #189 wrenchwench

One of my students has a West Highland White Terrier - super-friendly dog and absolutely useless as any kind of “home security”.

Unless “licking a stranger to death” counts, LOL.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:22:38am

Earliest known portrait of Mike Pence.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:25:28am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:26:23am

re: #191 jaunte

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Earliest known portrait of Mike Pence.

A critic on the Altamira (IIRC) cave: “This is the infancy of art, not the art of an infant.”

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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:27:53am

re: #180 BeachDem

And while she spews “christian” doctrine, she claims to be Jewish. Oy.

Thanks for the 1st hand account. I often question Oprah’s judgment when she makes stars of these loons—don’t forget her promotion of Dr. Oz and giving Jenny McCarthy a platform for her anti-vax bullshit.

Oprah is one damn lucky human being.

And that is all I will say about her.

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sagehen  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:29:59am

re: #191 jaunte

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Earliest known portrait of Mike Pence.

I dunno… looks kinda like a T Rex

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wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:32:13am

I bring you this tweet because, in it I learned that there is an actual bird with the for real name of FLUFFTAIL.

Flufftail:

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Teukka  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:36:50am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

One of my students has a West Highland White Terrier - super-friendly dog and absolutely useless as any kind of “home security”.

Unless “licking a stranger to death” counts, LOL.

Actually, one of my friends has had many a Retriever, both Labs and Goldens… She has related how she one New Years Eve told a couple of kids not to throw firecrackers when dogs were around, as it scares them and makes them unpredictable, only to have the kids defiantly throw them around dogs anyway. Now, one of the dogs, the late R**** was a real wimp (but a terrific dog in other ways), while the late E***** was actually a hunting Lab, and she actively trained him for hunting…
So kids throw a firecracker, E***** gets loose and runs up to the kids like he had a rocket strapped to his tail, poking them with his nose, like in “hey, where are you hiding the bird, you SoaB?” But the kids didn’t know that… With the result of yellow puddles developing below the kids…
She told me the ‘hood was quieter after that for some unknown reason… And as I knew both the late R**** and E*****, I know that they might get grumpy if you don’t pet them, but that what’d most likely happen is that they’d occupy any miscreant by demanding scritches etc., and thus get caught that way.
I still miss them, and E*****’s brother, B**/R****. Dogsat them on many occasion, so I know full well they were the sweetest dogs around, and what the most dangerous body part of any Retriever is.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:43:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:44:18am

good fucking grief…the moron is soooooo thin skinned

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A Three Hour Tour  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:47:45am

re: #180 BeachDem

And while she spews “christian” doctrine, she claims to be Jewish. Oy.

Thanks for the 1st hand account. I often question Oprah’s judgment when she makes stars of these loons—don’t forget her promotion of Dr. Oz and giving Jenny McCarthy a platform for her anti-vax bullshit.

“What Hath Oprah Wrought?”

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:49:15am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

One of my students has a West Highland White Terrier - super-friendly dog and absolutely useless as any kind of “home security”.

Unless “licking a stranger to death” counts, LOL.

I don’t know. We had a WHWT when I was a teenager and the dog was pretty damn good at waking up my parents when I was trying to sneak in past my curfew.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:49:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:52:43am

re: #201 Barefoot Grin

I don’t know. We had a WHWT when I was a teenager and the dog was pretty damn good at waking up my parents when I was trying to sneak in past my curfew.

My ex-wife’s parents had a Jack Russel Terrier and I swear, if an ant farted within a one-mile radius, he’d start barking like mad.

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mmmirele  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:53:32am

re: #180 BeachDem

And while she spews “christian” doctrine, she claims to be Jewish. Oy.

Thanks for the 1st hand account. I often question Oprah’s judgment when she makes stars of these loons—don’t forget her promotion of Dr. Oz and giving Jenny McCarthy a platform for her anti-vax bullshit.

*Blink* We’re talking about Marianne Williamson, right? Woo-woo peddler from way back? Only in a very, very, very tangential sense can you say that she’s spewing Christian doctrine. What she’s teaching comes out of the trance-channeled document “A Course in Miracles”, which she has reinterpreted. I am not trying to defend Christian orthodoxy (I find Christian orthodoxy annoying), but just pointing out that in the world of religion, Williamson is definitely on the New Age side and DEFINITELY in it for the money.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:57:21am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:58:25am

re: #204 mmmirele

*Blink* We’re talking about Marianne Williamson, right? Woo-woo peddler from way back? Only in a very, very, very tangential sense can you say that she’s spewing Christian doctrine. What she’s teaching comes out of the trance-channeled document “A Course in Miracles”, which she has reinterpreted. I am not trying to defend Christian orthodoxy (I find Christian orthodoxy annoying), but just pointing out that in the world of religion, Williamson is definitely on the New Age side and DEFINITELY in it for the money.

Still can’t figure out why the Berniebots backed her. Whatever respect I had for Alan Grayson died when he campaigned for her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 10:59:27am

that didn’t take very long:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:01:30am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

that didn’t take very long:

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OK who tf is Gregory Schermbeck?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:05:13am

re: #208 The Vicious Babushka

OK who tf is Gregory Schermbeck?

He stole 50 guitars in Cincinnati and this morning the police asked for public assistance in finding him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:05:47am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

He stole 50 guitars in Cincinnati and this morning the police asked for public assistance in finding him.

he also left his wallet at the scene of one of his burglaries

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TedStriker  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:05:49am

re: #208 The Vicious Babushka

OK who tf is Gregory Schermbeck?

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

He stole 50 guitars in Cincinnati and this morning the police asked for public assistance in finding him.

Because he dropped his wallet at the crime scene.

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A Three Hour Tour  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:07:04am

re: #208 The Vicious Babushka

OK who tf is Gregory Schermbeck?

Some dude who stole fifty guitars valued around 20k, sold a bunch to a guy, then broke in and stole those guitars again from that guy, but left his wallet with ID at the scene, apparently.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:07:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:08:11am

Gonna call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:11:32am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Beautiful designs. I wish our coins were as inventive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:12:26am

re: #215 jaunte

Beautiful designs. I wish our coins were as inventive.

the bishop one is interesting

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:12:44am

re: #215 jaunte

Beautiful designs. I wish our coins were as inventive.

American money is just about the ugliest in the world.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:13:12am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

For the heaviest drinkers?

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:13:34am

re: #217 Colère Tueur de Lapin

We need more animal coins.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:16:21am

Looks like some are for sale:

yorkcoins.com

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retired cynic  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:17:23am

Read on a comment thread somewhere:

Telling lies must be VERY high in calories because for every lie Plump tells he gains 1/2 oz of PURE FAT.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:17:44am

re: #217 Colère Tueur de Lapin

American money is just about the ugliest in the world.

Still chuckle about one of the California secessionist groups proposing that they would call their basic money unit “The Marx” and stamp Groucho’s likeness on the coins and bills.

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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:21:05am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

He stole 50 guitars in Cincinnati and this morning the police asked for public assistance in finding him.

I didn’t read anything on this yet. Do you happen to know where he stole the guitars?

I’m hoping it wasn’t that vintage guitar guy I dealt with. 50 of his guitars could be worth a whole bunch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:22:52am

re: #217 Colère Tueur de Lapin

American money is just about the ugliest in the world.

euro coins are hideous

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:23:38am

re: #223 ObserverArt

I didn’t read anything on this yet. Do you happen to know where he stole the guitars?

I’m hoping it wasn’t that vintage guitar guy I dealt with. 50 of his guitars could be worth a whole bunch.

Stolen from Calvin McCoy in North Fairmont.
They were valued at $20,000

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:26:13am
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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:26:55am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Stolen from Calvin McCoy in North Fairmont.
They were valued at $20,000

Thanks ‘Sleuth!

Obviously not real valuable vintage guitars.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:29:48am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

euro coins are hideous

Someone put a lot of handwork into an old Italian fifty-cent (500 lira) piece.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:31:20am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

That is very pretty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:33:31am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:34:09am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

euro coins are hideous

British coins are awesome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:34:16am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Someone put a lot of work into an old Italian fifty-cent (500 lira) piece.

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great mustache on the stamp guy

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Alephnaught  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:34:36am

re: #131 sagehen

And the India/Pakistan partition episode.

And It Takes You Away. (The Norway woods one.) I’ve been starting to re-watch Series 11 after a length of time, in order to get some distance, because it’s so different to previous series. Sure, it’s flawed in places, but it holds up better than I remember on initial broadcast.

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:43:18am

re: #204 mmmirele

*Blink* We’re talking about Marianne Williamson, right? Woo-woo peddler from way back? Only in a very, very, very tangential sense can you say that she’s spewing Christian doctrine. What she’s teaching comes out of the trance-channeled document “A Course in Miracles”, which she has reinterpreted. I am not trying to defend Christian orthodoxy (I find Christian orthodoxy annoying), but just pointing out that in the world of religion, Williamson is definitely on the New Age side and DEFINITELY in it for the money.

Didn’t mean to mislead—she’s definitely a woo-woo loon. Doctrine was the wrong word to use—I was mainly referring to mentions about her like:

Williamson was raised Jewish and still considers herself to be a practicing Jew, despite the Christianity-tinged vernacular she uses.

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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:44:22am

Watching some sportsball on CBS and they just showed a tease for 60 Minutes and the big Andrew McCabe interview. It was Scott Pelly so dramatically saying “wait, are you saying our president is beholden to the Russians?”

Yeah Scott. It not as if everyone hasn’t been asking that. Where the fuck you been?

Our TV media in action. Not impressed.

Oh well, it will still piss off Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:45:08am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:47:49am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, how’s President National Emergency doing today?

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William Lewis  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:49:19am

re: #217 Colère Tueur de Lapin

American money is just about the ugliest in the world.

Usually it is, although around 1900 we had a series of well designed ones - Standing Liberty Quarter, Walking Liberty Half Dollar and the Peace Dollar. And of course, our best coin remains the Double Eagle by Augustus Saint-Gaudens. And while our current coinage is blah, at least it is not has horrifically ugly as the Barber coinage was.

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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:50:12am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is that an albino raccoon?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:52:01am

re: #192 jaunte

President Birther Thinned Skinned sure is thin-skinned and snowflakey sensitive.

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wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:53:03am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You can sit ‘em on cushions, dress ‘em up in a fancy bib, and get them to eat out of a bowl, but you can’t make ‘em chew with their mouth closed.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:56:14am

re: #240 Sir John Barron

Alec Baldwin as Trump:

“So I’m going to sign the paper for emergency, and then I’m going to be immediately be sued, and the ruling will not go in my favor, and then it will end up in the Supreme Court, and I will call my buddy Kavanaugh and say time to repay the Donny, and he’ll say new phone. Who dis? And then the Mueller report will be released, crumbling my house of cards, and I can just plead insanity and do a few months in the puzzle factory, and my personal hell of playing president will finally be over.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:57:01am

re: #237 Sir John Barron

So, how’s President National Emergency doing today?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:57:12am

re: #192 jaunte

Year 7 of the Trump Presidency is off to a rough start.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 11:59:35am

re: #239 ObserverArt

Is that an albino raccoon?

looks like some sort of odd colored raccoon.
at first I thought it was a red panda, but the face is wrong

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Sir John Barron  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:00:07pm

re: #192 jaunte

Such presidential very national emergency.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:02:38pm

But Trump Digs Coal!

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Teukka  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:04:35pm

Re: Coins and tokens, it’s one thing I’ve toyed with, designing some of my own, if not for making my own then at least doing 3D renders of such.

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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:08:54pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

looks like some sort of odd colored raccoon.
at first I thought it was a red panda, but the face is wrong

I did a google image search and there are several albino raccoon images and they range from that exact color to even more white.

I thought it was a raccoon. It has the mask face, just subtle. And it sure acts like a raccoon. So I had to go find out as I have never seen one before.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:29:03pm

re: #237 Sir John Barron

So, how’s President National Emergency doing today?

A lot like infrastructure week.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:30:02pm

re: #182 sagehen

But Kim Jung Il shot an 18 his first ever game, so…

That’s a pretty low body count for Emperor Kim III.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:31:49pm

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

One of my students has a West Highland White Terrier - super-friendly dog and absolutely useless as any kind of “home security”.

Unless “licking a stranger to death” counts, LOL.

There’s always the danger of tripping over them in the dark.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:32:38pm

re: #191 jaunte

My God! Mike Pence is actually Vandal Savage!

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Jay C  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:37:34pm

re: #247 jaunte

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But Trump Digs Coal!

Fascinating concept*, but that post is nearly a year old (and the original linked article is from 2017). I wonder how far along that project is as of today?

*One would think that light-rail systems would be an ideal test-bed for alternative generation systems (like that hydrogen train) as their power requirements (load/distance/timing,etc.) are probably pretty well predictable

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:41:09pm

re: #247 jaunte

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But Trump Digs Coal!

HAIL HYDRAIL

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:49:36pm
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Teddy's Person  Feb 17, 2019 • 12:52:44pm

Chris Wallace gave a little pushback to Rushbo and Stephen Miller this morning on FOX. His feeble acts of journalism did not amuse RWNJs. Here’s a sampling:

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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:03:24pm

re: #258 Teddy’s Person

Chris Wallace gave a little pushback to Rushbo and Stephen Miller this morning on FOX. His feeble acts of journalism did not amuse RWNJs. Here’s a sampling:

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The fact there are Stephen Miller fans is deeply disturbing.

So yeah, I had to dig up that interview. 4 minutes in and I got pissed off. Miller is dangerous because he is slick with how he frames his responses. Somehow he has to be taken out of any kind of political office.

And good try Chris Wallace. But you have to know you helped create the idiots that are now attacking you.

Stephen Miller defends Trump’s national emergency decision

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:03:58pm

Shade from China

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Teddy's Person  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:05:55pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

The fact there are Stephen Miller fans is deeply disturbing.

One tweeter suggested that Miller succeed Trump as president in 2024. That one’s gonna give me nightmares.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:11:10pm

re: #261 Teddy’s Person

I REALLY don’t get that idea.

I mean, he has NO charisma of any kind, even Trump has some douchebag tough-talking conman charisma…it doesn’t work on anyone who can see through his bullshit. But Miller doesn’t even have that.

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Kafitrar  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:13:31pm

re: #254 Jay C

Fascinating concept*, but that post is nearly a year old (and the original linked article is from 2017). I wonder how far along that project is as of today?

*One would think that light-rail systems would be an ideal test-bed for alternative generation systems (like that hydrogen train) as their power requirements (load/distance/timing,etc.) are probably pretty well predictable

The Coradia iLint trains started running in September. cnbc.com

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Teddy's Person  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:16:38pm

re: #262 Sufficient unto the day…

I REALLY don’t get that idea.

I mean, he has NO charisma of any kind, even Trump has some douchebag tough-talking conman charisma…it doesn’t work on anyone who can see through his bullshit. But Miller doesn’t even have that.

Plus, and I really hate to say this, Miller seems to understand that there is power behind the scenes. Unfortunately, he’s going to be whispering in Republicans’ ears for decades.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:26:42pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:27:37pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:34:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:43:29pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:44:30pm

re: #268 Dave In Austin

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Yeah, no, this doesn’t even rise to the level of “ZOMG! OBAMA IS USING THE IRS TO SILENCE CONSERVATIVES!!!” or “OBAMA WATCHED AMERICANS DIE IN BENGHAZI AND DID NOTHING!!!” or even “HOLDER SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH THE MURDER OF THAT BORDER AGENT!!!”

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:46:40pm

re: #269 TBackwoods_Sleuth
gh

I hope the Senate can manage the override because:

1) I support the law, the Constitution, mom and apple pie (blackberry is better).

2) The stinging rebuke to DT would be supercalifragialisticexpialifuckingdocious. (All right. I’ll GO to hell.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:47:07pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:48:21pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Saw upthread that Miller is saying Trump will veto the resolution. Unfortunately for Mitch, he can’t use that as an excuse to kill the vote, it’s automatic regardless of his particular desire to see it happen. But I could see him shrugging his shoulders upon it being vetoed and saying “Well, we tried.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:55:47pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 1:57:00pm

re: #23 MsJ

This thread!! Nostalgia. Big time.

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Makes me wish my original 128K Mac was still alive and in working order.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:00:28pm
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Belafon  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:12:02pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Texas would probably join if California hadn’t.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:26:03pm

re: #270 Dave In Austin

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:44:18pm

A student at the Lawton Chiles Middle Academy in Lakeland, Florida was arrested after he refused to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. The incident began after a substitute teacher asked the 11-year-old to stand and he refused, explaining that he thought the U.S. flag was racist. The teacher then apparently got into a contentious argument with the boy and asked “Why if it was so bad here he did not go to another place to live,” according to a statement the teacher gave to the district. “They brought me here,” the boy replied.

The teacher apparently then thought that the best course of action was to continue arguing with the 11-year-old. “Well you can always go back,” she said she replied, “because I came here from Cuba and the day I feel I’m not welcome here anymore I would find another place to live.” The teacher decided to escalate the issue “because I did not want to continue dealing with him.” The boy was then arrested after he “refused to follow multiple commands, repeatedly called school leaders racist and was disruptive,” according to Bay News 9. The student denied accusations that he threatened to beat the teacher. He was ultimately charged with disruption of a school facility and resisting an officer without violence, reports the Washington Post.

O_o

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Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:51:21pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

“Resisting an officer without violence.” Huh?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:53:17pm

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William Lewis  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:54:00pm

re: #283 Targetpractice

“Resisting an officer without violence.” Huh?

Any protest is criminal according to the fascist MAGAts.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:57:20pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

Hmmmmm.

I wonder what those folks in FloriDUH would have done if the 11 year old was a Jehovah’s Witness.

I remember first grade in 1961 where we had a Jehovah’s Witness in our class who refused to salute the flag and she was sent out in the hall while it was done. Well, maybe if she was in FloriDUH they would have locked her up for the rest of her life…

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ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:58:01pm

Isn’t the student covered under the first? He is arrested for basically political speech about the government.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2019 • 2:59:24pm

re: #286 Joe Bacon 🌹

Jehovah’s Witness

Under Russian law, those who practice that faith are declared illegal.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:00:34pm

re: #287 ObserverArt

Isn’t the student covered under the first? He is arrested for basically political speech about the government.

Maybe he should have gone with the Matt Groening “Life in Hell” approach.

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Teddy's Person  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:01:04pm

re: #287 ObserverArt

Isn’t the student covered under the first? He is arrested for basically political speech about the government.

From the article at Bay News 9

A spokeswoman with the school district said students aren’t required to participate in the Pledge of Allegiance, but the substitute teacher wasn’t aware of this. The spokeswoman said the substitute teacher will no longer be able to work at any of the district’s schools and the district is still looking into the matter.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:06:50pm

re: #290 Teddy’s Person

From the article at Bay News 9

Good that the substitute teacher is barred from district schools but I hope the child’s criminal record is expunged. He did absolutely nothing wrong. I’m sick and tired of hearing about forced patriotism in what is supposed to be a democratic country.

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Chrysicat  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:06:54pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

I regret that the only non-posting interaction I can give that is to upding. The sentiments behind your posting it surely require one, but I always feel a little bit like I’m updinging the actual JFC action instead…😥

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Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:09:34pm

re: #290 Teddy’s Person

From the article at Bay News 9

“Wasn’t aware of this”? It’s 2019, FFS. If by now you’re not aware that you’ve a constitutional right to refuse to say the damned “pledge,” then you need to look into another career. I’m sure there’s a private prison somewhere in need of a warden.

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Teddy's Person  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:11:38pm

Lindsey being Lindsey.

During an interview on Face the Nation, host Margaret Brennan explained that $3.6 billion of the funds for Donald Trump’s emergency declaration to build a border wall could come from military funds “including construction of a middle school in Kentucky.”

“I would say it’s better for the middle school kids in Kentucky to have a secure border,” he continued. “We’ll get them the school they need, but right now, we’ve got a national emergency on our hands.”

Yeah right, we’ve got a national emergency on our hands that Lindsey and his fellow Republicans did nothing about for 2 years. In other words, there is no national emergency on the southern border. This should be a no brainer, and the courts should slap this down hard. But, any pretense of an independent Judicial Branch is being replaced by the Federalist Society.

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Teddy's Person  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:14:12pm

re: #291 Patricia Kayden

Good that the substitute teacher is barred from district schools but I hope the child’s criminal record is expunged. He did absolutely nothing wrong. I’m sick and tired of hearing about forced patriotism in what is supposed to be a democratic country.

His record expunged, a public apology, and a monetary settlement for pain and suffering. The sub was an employee of the school district at the time of the incident, and the school district is ultimately responsible for a subs actions.

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Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:14:43pm

re: #294 Teddy’s Person

Lindsey being Lindsey.

Yeah right, we’ve got a national emergency on our hands that Lindsey and his fellow Republicans did nothing about for 2 years. In other words, there is no national emergency on the southern border. This should be a no brainer, and the courts should slap this down hard. But, any pretense of an independent Judicial Branch is being replaced by the Federalist Society.

The only “emergency” in the eyes of the GOP is Donny losing reelection. If fucking over the country for generations to come helps him win, then the GOP is prepared for the American people to make that sacrifice.

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mmmirele  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:14:58pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d just point out that the handbook used by the school district is wrong in one respect. The right to refuse to pledge the flag does not reside with the child’s parents, but with the child themselves. Thankfully this child’s mother supports him, but I’m sure there are incidents out there where the child refuses to salute and their parents decide to whip them (oh, by the way, still perfectly legal in our country). But the right to refuse is with the child.

If I wasn’t diabetic, I’d have this from Justice Jackson’s West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette opinion tattooed on me:

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.

Dammit.

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wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:15:42pm

re: #284 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Teddy's Person  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:16:46pm

re: #296 Targetpractice

The only “emergency” in the eyes of the GOP is Donny losing reelection. If fucking over the country for generations to come helps him win, then the GOP is prepared for the American people to make that sacrifice.

That, and the Democrats are now in charge of the checkbook.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:34:03pm

re: #291 Patricia Kayden

Good that the substitute teacher is barred from district schools but I hope the child’s criminal record is expunged. He did absolutely nothing wrong. I’m sick and tired of hearing about forced patriotism in what is supposed to be a democratic country.

Wouldn’t sweat the record too much. In a properly-run future, he’ll have it in bronze on the wall of his store-front law office.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:35:22pm
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MsJ  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:39:14pm

re: #299 Teddy’s Person

That, and the Democrats are now in charge of the checkbookFIFY.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:39:52pm

Don’t like to pillage reddit traffic, but this is the way this society is supposed to work:

reddit.com

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:48:13pm

Welp a whole bunch of shiny low mileage NASCAR cars are now scrap metal. Big fraction of the whole field out.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:49:50pm

Did a validity check on #303. Story gets better.

nurse.org

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:54:40pm

re: #305 Decatur Deb

Very inspirational. :)

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Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2019 • 3:57:01pm

re: #306 PhillyPretzel

Love the billboard—an ultimate ID photo.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 17, 2019 • 5:14:33pm

re: #85 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This may be a minority view, but I’m enjoying ST:D (that colon is kind of important there).

My question: how does one watch ST:D in the United States without paying the CBS access fee?

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Axolotl  Feb 18, 2019 • 6:32:26am

re: #286 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmmmm.

I wonder what those folks in FloriDUH would have done if the 11 year old was a Jehovah’s Witness.

I remember first grade in 1961 where we had a Jehovah’s Witness in our class who refused to salute the flag and she was sent out in the hall while it was done. Well, maybe if she was in FloriDUH they would have locked her up for the rest of her life…

Not all of Florida is that crazy. This incident took place in one of the more rural areas.


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