Seth takes a closer look at President Trump declaring a national emergency and spending a weekend lashing out at critics.
Trump tried to get Acting AG Whitaker to “defang” the SDNY investigation into Trump. Apparently, he was game & “privately told associates that part of his role at the Justice Department was to ‘jump on a grenade’ for the president.” #JustAProcessCrime https://t.co/mifiHKrXfs
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) February 19, 2019
JUST IN: McCabe says he was interviewed by Mueller https://t.co/Pzbtx9vbSG pic.twitter.com/UfOerpweEO
— The Hill (@thehill) February 19, 2019
re: #1 jaunte
He would catch a grenade for Trump,
Throw his head on a blade for Trump,
Jump in front of a train for Trump…
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
He would catch a grenade for Trump,
Throw his head on a blade for Trump,
Jump in front of a train for Trump…
I just remember when former POTUS Bill C MET out in the wide open with AG Lynch and it was the worst case of collusion and interference and obstruction of justice that ever was.
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U.S. Attorney for SDNY, Geoffrey Berman, volunteered for the Trump transition, was personally interviewed by Trump for this job, and was never confirmed by the senate, but instead was able to keep his job without senate confirmation by having the district court select him. pic.twitter.com/fwzH7kXMYW
— Susan Simpson (@TheViewFromLL2) February 19, 2019
re: #5 jaunte
Totally fucking normal. Nothing to see here…carry on.
re: #5 jaunte
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Yet another example of Trump projecting I see. Where the fuck do they find these losers that take loyalty to Trump and not to the country’s Constitution and principles more seriously.
this from the end of the last thread:
Holy Crap! Forget Bernie. Forget Karl Lagerfield. The news right now is how the White House (probably Kushner) is secretly trying to rush a transfer of US nuclear technology to Mohammed Bone Saw and #SaudiArabia.
now tie it to this:
re: #7 HappyWarrior
Trump has been corrupt for so long, he must have a long list of people he knows he can use.
McCabe, in his book, on the Gang of 8 briefing: “Rosenstein went to talk to Nunes, came back, told me, Nunes is staying, he says he’s not recused from this, he refuses to leave…At the end of the day it’s his recusal, I can’t enforce it. We can’t kick him out of the room.” https://t.co/8mZjMZwapz
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) February 19, 2019
So I’m going to give a piece of advice:
Guys, be wary of political Twitter. I’m not saying that to talk about quality of The Discourse, or the correct arc of liberalism, or how to win the next election…straight up, political Twitter is unhealthy for individuals. It’s a Skinner box, and it is fucking everybody participating up.
Twitter rewards you with confirmation of your worldview when you read others, and rewards you again if you can “perform” your worldview in a way that elicits strong reaction, but also intermittently punishes you if you catch the wrong audience…inevitable since people are deliberately seeking worldview confirmation by finding “enemies” who say bad things, badly…or if misunderstanding occurs…also inevitable, since Twitter is the lowest of low-resolution mediums, with the word count and serial presentation making the likelihood of misreading high.
In other words…an intermittent reinforcement schedule. The thing you do to manipulate people into being unsure of themselves and needy, to make people work extra hard because they’re not sure what {thing} triggers the reward. Twitter works like gambling. It does not care if you’re happy or sad or distressed or frightened. It just wants views; Twitter-as-a-company literally sells itself as a broker of attention.
Eyes on screen is now a currency equivalent—a rump measure of power in deeply unhealthy network of total strangers—and lots of people are thirsty for it. Some want to monetize it, some want to harness it to promote an idea, but for a lot of folks it’s a kind of performance of belonging where likes/retweets are a measurable, almost-economic representation of self-worth. Twitter, being the fastest form of social medium, inherently bends towards hasty, highly emotional takes. The sorting algorithm of mass social interaction means that shitty loud takes will travel farther because (1) it’s easier to evoke anger than softer more nuanced emotion, (2) anger-inducing takes are simpler to compose because there’s a standard trite language that will trigger frustration, (3) anger propagates fastest because it triggers aggressive responses, both in solidarity and counterattack.
And that’s what’s happening just with good faith operators bouncing off one another. There are bots, there are click farms, there are trolls, there are people thirsty for attention, there are quacks; there are political operatives: all want your engagement and don’t care how they get it. All of the above are going to want you more stressed because that the cheapest way to get your engagement. More than that, there are specifically bad faith operators that want you to feel exhausted and worn out, that want you to feel attacked on all sides.
Twitter-as-Skinner-box is conditioning everyone to both be more angry/more frightened/more agitated, to perform anger/fear/agitation in hyperbolic terms to elicit responses, and to enjoy the process of becoming angry and discharging that anger through performative displays of anger.
I don’t have a clear directive; I’m not saying “no Twitter.” But I am suggesting a specific skeptical frame for participating…paying attention to (1) how the system pushes individual participants to be louder and dumber, and taking that into account when reacting, (2) your own level of emotional engagement and how the medium is built on provocation, (3) the emotional and intellectual habits that become ingrained because Twitter encourages fast thinking (per Kahneman) and leak into everyday thinking, (4) that fact the entire system if fuckery and declaring “that right there is fuckery” and taking emotional distance is probably the best way to cope.
re: #10 jaunte
Confirming what we all expected/saw - Nunes is a Trump crony who was feeding Trump info on the ongoing investigation from inside the room.
re: #1 jaunte
Look, I know that Everything Trump Touches Dies… but I didn’t realize there were so many begging for death.
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
He would catch a grenade for Trump,
Throw his head on a blade for Trump,
Jump in front of a train for Trump…
you channeling Angel Band?
I needed to spend time today explaining narcissism to one of my teams in India. They were kinda getting it, then I said, “You know our President? President Trump? Do all of you know how he acts, have you seen that?”
“Yes.”
“That’s a narcissist.”
“OH!”
re: #8 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
this from the end of the last thread:
now tie it to this:
The best argument for alternative energy and/or fuel is for the catharsis of telling “our friends” the Saudis that they can go fuck themselves with a rusted, flaming chainsaw.
re: #11 The Ghost of Quesos Past
I think I get the best of it by not having an account, having a few people I view with a web browser, and perusing what’s posted here. Of course if everyone did that, there would be no Twitter.
re: #11 The Ghost of Quesos Past
I do not Tweet. Social media for are for finding out what my homies are up to, what they had for lunch and how cute their kids/pets are.
If I want news, I go to established news sources with a reputation for accuracy and balance.
re: #11 The Ghost of Quesos Past
The best advice about using twitter is fairly simple, “don’t.”
I have an account that I almost never post on (occasional replies) and I follow maybe 10 accounts; which is probably too many.
re: #14 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
you channeling Angel Band?
that particular song happens to be my current running song
i dont carry a phone or a pod, it just goes round in my head cause that tempo i hear it at is my running pace
oddly, it got morphed with a recent reading of green eggs and ham so now i hear the book to the tune of the song.
after the mashup of the two has gone on for a while, i just start making stuff up as i lope along
re: #17 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
I think I get the best of it by not having an account, having a few people I view with a web browser, and perusing what’s posted here. Of course if everyone did that, there would be no Twitter.
I also get enough of it that way to more than satisfy my desire to look any closer.
I have to admit that when I saw that “trending on Twitter” was becoming a regular news item in and of itself, I began to fear for the future of the Republic and those fears have not been unfounded to date…
re: #17 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
I think I get the best of it by not having an account, having a few people I view with a web browser, and perusing what’s posted here. Of course if everyone did that, there would be no Twitter.
This is also how I roll.
re: #17 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
I think I get the best of it by not having an account, having a few people I view with a web browser, and perusing what’s posted here. Of course if everyone did that, there would be no Twitter.
I did it briefly. Felt too intrusive for me. I can do FB but that’s because FB started as something much less intrusive than it is now. I’m probably the only Lizard that got a FB account the year FB was created. It was totally different then.
This is Teh Brutalz. Molly Jong-Fast goes in on Tomato Logjam….
Tomi Lahren has it all: the bleached blond hair, the smoking bod, the obsession with dressing up in stupidly provocative outfits; the unquenchable rage that she has no trouble expressing endlessly on the usual social media platforms. Let’s be honest: At some point, Trump’s punk-rock kamikaze sensibility won’t be much of a draw anymore. Every septuagenarian eventually winds up like late-stage Mick Jagger, no matter how cool they once were. Enter the Lahren.
She’s got all of the rage and racialist attitudes of Ann Coulter but isn’t burdened by any of Coulter’s intellectualism. When she’s not in attack mode, she’s perfected the blank stare of Steve Doocy, which allows her to take on the aspect of tabula rasa conservativism. Is she for free markets? Crony capitalism? Outlawing abortion? Who can say. What matters is that she’s into melting snowflakes. She’s the perfect designated successor for Trumpism.
Tomi didn’t just emerge, fully-formed, from Ann Coulter’s head. No, she was shaped and molded by the awesome power of the conservative media feedback loop mixing with her raw talent and ambition. She got her start in the ecosystem with One America News Network (of course) and then migrated to Glenn Beck’s Blaze, where she was eventually fired for announcing that she was pro-choice while doing a guest spot on The View. The surprise conversion on a network show was a total coincidence and in no way an attempt to get out of her contract with a niche streaming service in order to break into the bigtime.
I think I’m getting a crush on Molly.
re: #24 makeitstop
This is Teh Brutalz. Molly Jong-Fast goes in on Tomato Logjam….
I think I’m getting a crush on Molly.
The money paragraph IMO is this baby:
She’s got all of the rage and racialist attitudes of Ann Coulter but isn’t burdened by any of Coulter’s intellectualism. When she’s not in attack mode, she’s perfected the blank stare of Steve Doocy, which allows her to take on the aspect of tabula rasa conservativism. Is she for free markets? Crony capitalism? Outlawing abortion? Who can say. What matters is that she’s into melting snowflakes. She’s the perfect designated successor for Trumpism.
You really could apply that to a lot of these young conservative talking heads who have come of prominence in the latter Obama years and early Trump years.
re: #15 BlueGrl21
I needed to spend time today explaining narcissism to one of my teams in India. They were kinda getting it, then I said, “You know our President? President Trump? Do all of you know how he acts, have you seen that?”
“Yes.”
“That’s a narcissist.”
“OH!”
Your All Time Favorite President!
Today, Justice Thomas opined that a 50 year old First Amendment protection be reconsidered: public figures that sue for defamation have to prove “actual malice”.
Justice Thomas’s opinion is in line with Trump’s desires.
Justice Thomas never expressed this opinion before.— Pé Resists (@4everNeverTrump) February 19, 2019
We are all derivatively engaged with Twitter because Tweets become news, Twits who Tweet become news, and non-Twitter medium harvest both information and perspective from Twitter. Just think about polling that’s on Twitter or linked-to through Twitter.
The fuckery has a fallout radius, and we’re all inside the circle to some degree…
…’specially because everything I said about Twitter in specific occurs in the Internet discourse in general.
The “liability deficit” is the promise to pay.
I find nothing wrong with a society that promises its members that they will be helped as they get old or sick.— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) February 19, 2019
re: #28 HappyWarrior
“I agree with the Court’s decision not to take up that factbound question,” stated the concurrence. “I write to explain why, in an appropriate case, we should reconsider the precedents that require courts to ask it in the first place. New York Times and the Court’s decisions extending it were policy-driven decisions masquerading as constitutional law. Instead of simply applying the First Amendment as it was understood by the people who ratified it, the Court fashioned its own ‘federal rule[s]’ by balancing the ‘competing values at stake in defamation suits.’ We should not continue to reflexively apply this policy-driven approach to the Constitution. Instead, we should carefully examine the original meaning of the First and Fourteenth Amendments. If the Constitution does not require public figures to satisfy an actual-malice standard in state-law defamation suits, then neither should we.”
hollywoodreporter.com
Careening toward the stupidest possible apocalypse.
Not with a bang, or a whimper.
More like a faint but distinctly wet farting noise.
re: #27 jaunte
Another right wing hack on the Court who’s signaling that he’s looking to give Trump a thumbs up to go after media outlets that are investigating his criminal conduct. https://t.co/GigRjctItl
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 19, 2019
Hemingway wrote a piece to that effect, and Thomas opines days later? Yeah, these fuckers are out to gut free speech, the 1A, and attack anyone who calls out Dear Leader.
Would “the people who ratified” The First Amendment have accepted a Justice Thomas?
re: #34 jaunte
Would “the people who ratified” The First Amendment have accepted a Justice Thomas?
No and not just because of his skin color.
re: #4 Sir John Barron
I just remember when former POTUS Bill C MET out in the wide open with AG Lynch and it was the worst case of collusion and interference and obstruction of justice that ever was.
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And Trump and some wingnuts still bring that crap up.
They also seem to gloss by the fact that AG Lynch wasn’t too thrilled with all that herself.
re: #36 ObserverArt
And Trump and some wingnuts still bring that crap up.
They also seem to gloss by the fact that AG Lynch wasn’t too thrilled with all that herself.
Meanwhile DJT does the equivalent, worse than the equivalent, everyday, loudly and out in the open.
re: #38 Sir John Barron
Meanwhile DJT does the equivalent, worse than the equivalent, everyday, loudly and out in the open.
And they don’t care.
re: #38 Sir John Barron
Meanwhile DJT does the equivalent, worse than the equivalent, everyday, loudly and out in the open.
And it’s “Oh he’s just fighting back. He has the right to fight back!”
Wait so Thomas is arguing that the Founders wouldn’t have accepted that interpretion? Don’t people like him go nuts when you point out that what construed a firearm in 1791 is different than what makes on 228 years later?
re: #40 Sir John Barron
And it’s “Oh he’s just fighting back. He has the right to fight back!”
I wish someone would fight back and humiliate that son of a bitch. I really kind almost want the nominee to be Harris so he could lose to a woman or color. Losing ot Elizabeth Warren would also be great after how he’s gone out of his way to mock her.
It’s not like this is a SUPER DANGEROUS NATIONAL EMERGENCY or anything. https://t.co/2FYJFt3bDY
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 19, 2019
re: #42 jaunte
Yet another Founders seance.
Did I mention again how much I loathe originalism as a judicial philosophy? Ill admit KG knows much more about it than I do but I find it such a lazy thought process. All it is IMO is combining your present day biases with what you thought the Founders intended. Emphasis on you thought.
re: #45 Charles Johnson
Trump’s in no rush to dismantle North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. That’s not a threat? Really?
Who’s telling him that? Putin?
Oh.
re: #17 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
I think I get the best of it by not having an account, having a few people I view with a web browser, and perusing what’s posted here. Of course if everyone did that, there would be no Twitter.
I can’t find any bad in there being no Twitter?
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I don’t know what the Founders would have thought about transgendered people and you know what, if they had a prejudice against them, that’s on them rather than our principles of law because our principles of law do protect transgendered people and their rights. I’m just using that as an example for a 21st century where 19th century concepts of rights can be applied.
Here’s the thing, though… in 1792, the circulation of a newspaper was extremely local. Not many people outside of New York City were reading the New York Post, for example. In the modern world, where I can read articles from every newspaper in the country without getting out of bed, having “local” standards of defamation apply is a bit more tricky.
Not only that, but a lot of these criticisms of the actual malice standard are mostly bullshit. If Trump really believes that newspapers are telling completely false stories about him, then he could sue and win. But he can’t prove that the stories are false.
And I say this as someone who is skeptical of the whole “limited public figure” doctrine.
One of the real greats. #RIP https://t.co/honCGsVmMa
— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) February 19, 2019
re: #49 HappyWarrior
I don’t know what the Founders would have thought about transgendered people and you know what, if they had a prejudice against them, that’s on them rather than our principles of law because our principles of law do protect transgendered people and their rights.
We know what most of the Founders thought about POC and women — and that we are not equal to white males or deserve Constitutional protections. Clarence Thomas reminds me of Samuel Jackson in Django Unchained — a person contemptuous of other blacks and completely supportive of white supremacy.
re: #50 KGxvi
Here’s the thing, though… in 1792, the circulation of a newspaper was extremely local. Not many people outside of New York City were reading the New York Post, for example. In the modern world, where I can read articles from every newspaper in the country without getting out of bed, having “local” standards of defamation apply is a bit more tricky.
Not only that, but a lot of these criticisms of the actual malice standard are mostly bullshit. If Trump really believes that newspapers are telling completely false stories about him, then he could sue and win. But he can’t prove that the stories are false.
And I say this as someone who is skeptical of the whole “limited public figure” doctrine.
I see it all as just another part of Trump’s endless con game. He’s not going to sue any newspapers or cable networks, because 1) he knows it isn’t “fake news” at all, and 2) the only thing that really matters is feeding a constant stream of bullshit to right wing rage monkeys.
re: #50 KGxvi
Here’s the thing, though… in 1792, the circulation of a newspaper was extremely local. Not many people outside of New York City were reading the New York Post, for example. In the modern world, where I can read articles from every newspaper in the country without getting out of bed, having “local” standards of defamation apply is a bit more tricky.
Not only that, but a lot of these criticisms of the actual malice standard are mostly bullshit. If Trump really believes that newspapers are telling completely false stories about him, then he could sue and win. But he can’t prove that the stories are false.
And I say this as someone who is skeptical of the whole “limited public figure” doctrine.
As I said the other day, the world is both a bigger and smaller place than it was in 1792.
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Race baiting flyers like this one from Theodore Geisel - the one & only Dr. Seuss - helped lead to the uprooting of Americans simply because their ethnicity made them suspicious. #DayOfRemembrance pic.twitter.com/lN4e9TokKq
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
the rest behind the clicky
A message on the 75th anniversary of #EO9066 by Kendall Kosai of @OCANational: https://t.co/sSQtS2WPWZ #DayofRemembrance pic.twitter.com/LdsTcwHaa8
— NCAPA (@NCAPAtweets) February 19, 2017
Some families were sansei - the 3rd generation in the US. Most families were headed by naturalized immigrants, with nisei (2nd gen) children. Americans. Yet this is the hate they faced after 7 December 1941. #DayOfRemembrance pic.twitter.com/hh7t2XixOW
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
In case anyone could ever claim that Americans could/would never make members of an ethnic group wear distinctive symbols, or tags as if they were no more valuable than luggage. #DayOfRemembrance pic.twitter.com/OzRUHg7NsI
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
The barracks at Manzanar were made of flimsy wood & weren’t insulated against the cold. Families had no privacy, as they only had a sheet to separate their area from another family’s. #DayOfRemembrance pic.twitter.com/WDXvvg146F
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
Upon your arrival, or soon thereafter, you would be asked to fill out this loyalty questionnaire. How would you respond if the government that demanded loyalty from you just stripped away your life & that of your family? #DayOfRemembrance https://t.co/Sf3gG4qdXN
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
12,000 men & women answered their Marion’s call to arms despite all of this. Most of the men were eventually assigned to the 442nd Regimental Combat Team, the most decorated unit in US Army history.
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
These people - these Americans - all had to rebuild their lives after the war. They continued to face the same discrimination that caused their incarceration in the first place. Nevertheless, they persisted. #DayOfRemembrance
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
If we’ve learned anything at all in the 77 years since FDR signed that order, it should be that the ostracism of a swath of Americans, simply based on racial antipathy, runs counter to the promise that is America. #DayOfRemembrance
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
Here endeth the lesson.
— Dan Kim 김명준 (@danielmkim) February 19, 2019
re: #46 HappyWarrior
Did I mention again how much I loathe originalism as a judicial philosophy? Ill admit KG knows much more about it than I do but I find it such a lazy thought process. All it is IMO is combining your present day biases with what you thought the Founders intended. Emphasis on you thought.
The fun part is when you get arguments between originalists who believe in original intent vs originalists who believe in strict construction. Original intent lets you consider outside sources. Strict construction is “bound by the four corners of the document.” Thomas, I think, is more of an original intent originalist. Scalia was notorious for going back and forth on which approach he used, mostly because he was much more outcome oriented than Thomas, who tends to be more process oriented.
It has it’s place in jurisprudence, in large part because it is useful to know the origins of certain laws before considering all the history that came after that law was passed. But to simply say “this is what it meant in 1805 so that is what it means now” is incredibly lazy.
This needs more attention - why it is happening and who is gaining from the new world alignment:
“The most immediate danger, diplomats and intelligence officials warned, is that the trans-Atlantic fissures now risk being exploited by Russia and China.” https://t.co/tLQDUeDMi1— Amy Siskind 🏳️🌈 (@Amy_Siskind) February 19, 2019
More alarm bells:
“Two years of Mr. Trump, and a majority of French and Germans now trust Russia and China more than the United States.”
Man, is Putin getting dividends from his investment!— Amy Siskind 🏳️🌈 (@Amy_Siskind) February 19, 2019
re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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In the words of one Revered Jeremiah Wright.
God damn America!
And you know what, we are right there again with the border crap and even with how some conservatives think about some liberals.
I bet you there are Trumpnuts that would be fine for shutting up someone like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez by any means possible.
re: #30 freetoken
I am a Medicare recipient. Medicare’s at a 29 trillion dollar liability deficit, and that’s with 59 million recipients.
this is like saying omg it’s year 5, where’s the money going to come from to pay my mortgage in year 16
re: #54 Charles Johnson
I see it all as just another part of Trump’s endless con game. He’s not going to sue any newspapers or cable networks, because 1) he knows it isn’t “fake news” at all, and 2) the only thing that really matters is feeding a constant stream of bullshit to right wing rage monkeys.
He might not sue — but there are others who will take the opportunity for the opening that Clarence Thomas left and try to, in effect, repeal the First Amendment for all non-Trumpers.
re: #41 HappyWarrior
Wait so Thomas is arguing that the Founders wouldn’t have accepted that interpretion? Don’t people like him go nuts when you point out that what construed a firearm in 1791 is different than what makes on 228 years later?
different amendment //
re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
CJ Roberts in Trump v Hawaii (travel ban case):
The dissent’s reference to Korematsu, however, affords this Court the opportunity to make express what is already obvious: Korematsu was gravely wrong the day it was decided, has been overruled in the court of history, and—to be clear—‘has no place in law under the Constitution.’
Something worth keeping in mind when the wall litigation reaches the Supreme Court. Korematsu involved an executive order that was arguably based on the idea of a national emergency.
re: #57 KGxvi
The fun part is when you get arguments between originalists who believe in original intent vs originalists who believe in strict construction. Original intent lets you consider outside sources. Strict construction is “bound by the four corners of the document.” Thomas, I think, is more of an original intent originalist. Scalia was notorious for going back and forth on which approach he used, mostly because he was much more outcome oriented than Thomas, who tends to be more process oriented.
It has it’s place in jurisprudence, in large part because it is useful to know the origins of certain laws before considering all the history that came after that law was passed. But to simply say “this is what it meant in 1805 so that is what it means now” is incredibly lazy.
they use that argument when it leads to the result they want
otherwise they use other ‘logic’
consistency is not relevant
Great 2020 dog-race journalism https://t.co/mCOOSu4mlQ
— Marina Fang (@marinafang) February 19, 2019
re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I do not Tweet. Social media for are for finding out what my homies are up to, what they had for lunch and how cute their kids/pets are.
If I want news, I go to established news sources with a reputation for accuracy and balance.
Same. Husband and both sons are on Twitter, I will not touch it. I will say this: my sons have a much better BS detector and get much less emotional. Husband sticks to sports. But me? Nope. I’m not wired for it.
re: #63 KGxvi
CJ Roberts in Trump v Hawaii (travel ban case):
Something worth keeping in mind when the wall litigation reaches the Supreme Court. Korematsu involved an executive order that was arguably based on the idea of a national emergency.
regarding executive orders, i’ve been doing a little research and cant find an answer
likely one or more lizards know
the integration of the military more or less started with an e/o #9981 (1948)
was ever codified into law by congress?
re: #58 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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re: #57 KGxvi
The fun part is when you get arguments between originalists who believe in original intent vs originalists who believe in strict construction. Original intent lets you consider outside sources. Strict construction is “bound by the four corners of the document.” Thomas, I think, is more of an original intent originalist. Scalia was notorious for going back and forth on which approach he used, mostly because he was much more outcome oriented than Thomas, who tends to be more process oriented.
It has it’s place in jurisprudence, in large part because it is useful to know the origins of certain laws before considering all the history that came after that law was passed. But to simply say “this is what it meant in 1805 so that is what it means now” is incredibly lazy.
Yeah the characterizations of Thomas being Scalia’s clone were a bit off. And you’re right. It does have a place but it shouldn’t be the primary place IMO.
re: #68 Barefoot Grin
Between China’s One Belt One Road initiatives and the fracturing of Europe, we could be far more isolated than we’ve been in decades.
Which means we’re really going to need some great leaders in the years to come.
Is he going to talk to his good friend, Putin, about this? https://t.co/fM8gSSkWQD
— Rachel Murphy Azzara #DemsWork4USA (@RachelAzzara) February 19, 2019
The Trump administration isn’t exactly on solid human rights footing.
re: #71 jaunte
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I’m very skeptical about this. I hope it’s sincere but I don’t fucking trust it at all.
re: #73 HappyWarrior
Trump pointing to Richard Grenell and shouting “look at my gay” to the crowd.
re: #74 jaunte
Trump pointing to Richard Grenell and shouting “look at my gay” to the crowd.
Agh yeah. All the while still being supported and egged on for policy by the Fundie right. There’s something to this. I just don’t trust this administration at all to campaign for universal LGBT rights and equality because it’s obvious that they don’t give a fuck.
Expanding the Supreme Court is a must.
POLL: Do you support expanding the #SupremeCourt by adding seats?
With the GOP stealing #MerrickGarland’s seat and forcing #BrettKavanaugh, an accused sexual assaulter and perjurer, onto the bench, is it time to take this aggressive measure?
Context: https://t.co/jyKJMHwsMY— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) February 19, 2019
re: #75 HappyWarrior
Bravely standing against Iran’s theocrats while remaining silent about our own. And Saudi Arabia’s.
re: #71 jaunte
Is Trump going to chastise Saudi Arabia for its treatment of gays? I assume that Iran is no worse than Saudi Arabia when it comes to how it treats the LGBT community. Look at how Saudi Arabia treats women.
re: #78 Patricia Kayden
Is Trump going to chastise Saudi Arabia for its treatment of gays? I assume that Iran is no worse than Saudi Arabia when it comes to how it treats the LGBT community. Look at how Saudi Arabia treats women.
Russia. North Korea. Brazil.
I’m curious, what are you guys’ thoughts on expanding the Senate to 150 seats?
re: #76 Patricia Kayden
Expanding the Supreme Court is a must.
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I’m a reluctant yes. I hate it because imo it would not be necessary if Garland gotten a hearing but McConnell needs to pay.
re: #81 HappyWarrior
I’m a reluctant yes. I hate it because imo it would not be necessary if Garland gotten a hearing but McConnell needs to pay.
and Kavanaugh would not have been an issue either.
this affront cannot go unanswered
re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m curious, what are you guys’ thoughts on expanding the Senate to 150 seats?
You’d need 25 more states for that and or an amendment. I favor increasing the size of the House tho which I think can be done without an amendment.
re: #67 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
regarding executive orders, i’ve been doing a little research and cant find an answer
likely one or more lizards knowthe integration of the military more or less started with an e/o #9981 (1948)
was ever codified into law by congress?
Would not have been needed. The DoD is entirely a Executive Branch entity, and many laws don’t actually apply to it unless implemented by an Executive Order (EPA, OSHA, etc). The subsequent decades of anti-discrimination legislation made the question moot.
re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and Kavanaugh would not have been an issue either.
this affront cannot go unanswered
Kavanaugh would still have been an issue. But Garland being there rather than Gorsuch would have made it easier to swallow.
It’s like wearing hot garbage but without the added benefit of warmth. https://t.co/l1R2LPV7t6
— CongoJack (@Capt_CongoJack) February 19, 2019
From downstairs…
re: #422 ObserverArt
So, you don’t think the Russians had anything to do with Hillary losing?
And you don’t think 30 years of Clinton baggage and Bill had anything to do with it?
And how about we touch on the fact that is was 106,105 votes in three key states for Democrats that turned the election.
It has since been documented the Russians put a lot of work into those three states. We now know that Manafort passed the GOP/Trump voting data to the Russians to do specific targeting.
Take all of the above away and then explain to me how this next election will bring the same results?
I think the Russians definitely impacted the race…and I think they will again.
Clinton’s had mostly republican manufactured baggage…and they will do that to any and every democrat again.
I honestly do not see any differences except that Hillary, the most respected woman on the planet, had republicans lying about her for a longer time.
I don’t see changes in Facebook. I don’t see changes in Twitter. I don’t see any less lies from Republicans. Do you?
re: #83 HappyWarrior
You’d need 25 more states for that and or an amendment. I favor increasing the size of the House tho which I think can be done without an amendment.
Germany has around a quarter of the US population (around 82 million) and 600 seats in its Parliament.
In addition, only half are elected directly by region, the rest are nominated by their parties and then appointed according to that party’s share of the vote. That puts a damper on how much gerrymandering can take place.
And (as I like to point out as an expat to my fellow Americans) everyone has a registered address and a mandatory ID card. All you have to do is show up at your local polling place with your ID and you are already on the list.
re: #86 CongoJack
It’s like wearing Lee Greenwood!
re: #83 HappyWarrior
You’d need 25 more states for that and or an amendment. I favor increasing the size of the House tho which I think can be done without an amendment.
True, representation in the HoR is (and, AFAICT, always has been) a legislative. However, having been locked into the present limitation on numbers for 108 years, it’s really hard to see how a reapportionment/enlargement measure (ANY such measure, really) is going to pass Congress given that the current system benefits, via over-representation, too many small-state players (i.e. Republicans).
re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Germany has around a quarter of the US population (around 82 million) and 600 seats in its Parliament.
In addition, only half are elected directly by region, the rest are nominated by their parties and then appointed according to that party’s share of the vote. That puts a damper on how much gerrymandering can take place.
And (as I like to point out as an expat to my fellow Americans) everyone has a registered address and a mandatory ID card. All you have to do is show up at your local polling place with your ID and you are already on the list.
Yeah the Bundestag and House of Commons are in smaller countries but have more representation. I also think increased members would mean reelection wouldn’t be a gimme and the members would actually have to be accountable to their constituents.
re: #54 Charles Johnson
I see it all as just another part of Trump’s endless con game. He’s not going to sue any newspapers or cable networks, because 1) he knows it isn’t “fake news” at all, and 2) the only thing that really matters is feeding a constant stream of bullshit to right wing rage monkeys.
The US “right” is full of people that create counterfeits, knowingly consume counterfeits, yet believe their counterfeits represent reality and structure their lives accordingly. In the last thread I talked about bad faith and lack of self-reflection are built into the right’s rhetoric about “socialism” as a threat, but these bullshitting sessions where the new narratives are set…the catchphrases and the loose “story” of why noone else’s thoughts or feelings matter…are part of the same cultural phenomenon. Self-reflection is taboo; keep it shallow.
These are people who believe that whatever they repeat at the moment is true, and the truth can change as they need it; they’ve learned this from the enclosed wingnut culture that specifically requires constant deformation of authoritative documents—the Bible, the Constitution, etc—so that they can act selfishly and hypocritically but maintain the pretense of a coherent, “traditional” worldview. It’s what makes Trump so perfectly fitted to talk to the hardened wingnut core: from different origin points they’ve developed the same “only I matter, what I say is the only measure of truth” epistemology.
The other thing they share is that when they say something is, it’s not a description but a projection. Given power, the subtext says, we will make this statement “The Truth”.
It reminds of the art world. Forgery tends to…propagate…because no one wants to admit that the very expensive thing isn’t worth it…*and* because no one wants to admit that the entire art market—sellers, buyers, insurers—balances atop a subjective system of how art is valued that routinely fails. Each person’s sunk cost fallacy, over time, sums up to a conspiracy which doesn’t need formal organization because each individual profits.
re: #84 Decatur Deb
Would not have been needed. The DoD is entirely a Executive Branch entity, and many laws don’t actually apply to it unless implemented by an Executive Order (EPA, OSHA, etc). The subsequent decades of anti-discrimination legislation made the question moot.
thx
re: #46 HappyWarrior
Did I mention again how much I loathe originalism as a judicial philosophy? Ill admit KG knows much more about it than I do but I find it such a lazy thought process. All it is IMO is combining your present day biases with what you thought the Founders intended. Emphasis on you thought.
Exactly. Originalist jurists have the easiest jobs in creation. All they do is take their personal views on how any given case should be decided, and find that (miraculously) the founders would have decided the case the same way.
re: #85 HappyWarrior
Kavanaugh would still have been an issue. But Garland being there rather than Gorsuch would have made it easier to swallow.
maybe, but gorsuch would likley have been first up, not kavanaugh
re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m curious, what are you guys’ thoughts on expanding the Senate to 150 seats?
Expand the House to 1251, each state has a minimum of 3 reps. 1001 seats by nonpartisan drawn districts and 250 apportioned at large by proportional representation.
Expand the Senate to 250, 3 Senators from each state staggered 6 year terms and 100 elected by proportional representation every 2 years at large
For those old enough to remember almost 4 years ago when The New York Times ran with a farce of a story about Uranium One, here is the same New York Times admitting the story was a sham today…leaving out that they created it.https://t.co/JpL1A3T8Bc pic.twitter.com/EPCTJ8GNh3
— Nick Merrill (@NickMerrill) February 19, 2019
Here is the original Uranium One story on the NYT’s website, with no corrections or admission that it was “debunked,” as the above article confirms. pic.twitter.com/lVb2aRyt9F
— Nick Merrill (@NickMerrill) February 19, 2019
re: #91 Jay C
True, representation in the HoR is (and, AFAICT, always has been) a legislative. However, having been locked into the present limitation on numbers for 108 years, it’s really hard to see how a reapportionment/enlargement measure (ANY such measure, really) is going to pass Congress given that the current system benefits, via over-representation, too many small-state players (i.e. Republicans).
Technically, the House should have about 8700 members, as the Constitution says one representative for every 30,000 people. But since the early 20th Century, the argument has been that the 14th Amendment’s requirement that the House membership be apportioned among the states by their respective numbers has overridden that clause. There hasn’t been any litigation on it, that I know of at least; but I think the 14th Amendment argument is questionable in that it could theoretically go either way.
re: #88 MsJ
From downstairs…
I think the Russians definitely impacted the race…and I think they will again.
Clinton’s had mostly republican manufactured baggage…and they will do that to any and every democrat again.
I honestly do not see any differences except that Hillary, the most respected woman on the planet, had republicans lying about her for a longer time.
I don’t see changes in Facebook. I don’t see changes in Twitter. I don’t see any less lies from Republicans. Do you?
Putin absolutely hated Hillary. I don’t know if the motivations for them to mess about in the elections are the same. But yes, they will probably try because now Trump is their toy so they will want to try to keep him.
Russian connections may also chase a lot of the original Trump voters away, those that took a flyer on him because of Clinton and their desire for a successful business man has shown it was a stupid vote.
Clinton had a lot of baggage on the left too. There were a lot of liberals worried about voting for her because of some of her past too. That sent votes to Clinton and to Johnson and Stein.
I think there is an awareness now that Twitter and Facebook need to be looked at in a different way. I hope that people don’t fall for that as much.
Republicans are Republicans. But their polls are as low as they have ever been. Their voters are older now too.
I know I am never going to change your mind. I admit, I am stumped a bit on how a woman doesn’t give another woman a chance. I know you will vote for the Democrat candidate anyway. So, there is that.
Maybe women are tougher on women than on guys. That is not directed at you so much as to all the women that did vote for Trump in spite of knowing how he treats women. I will never figure that out.
re: #67 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
regarding executive orders, i’ve been doing a little research and cant find an answer
likely one or more lizards knowthe integration of the military more or less started with an e/o #9981 (1948)
was ever codified into law by congress?
Even if not, the Civil Rights Act and related equal-opportunity laws would encompass any questions about it.
re: #27 jaunte
It’s 55 years. NYTimes v. Sullivan was decided in 1964. Yeah, I know it’s picky, but it does show how much precedent Thomas wants to undermine.
re: #98 jaunte
URANIUM ONE 1!!!!! Hillary Clinton Foundation the real Collusion!!1
re: #57 KGxvi
The fun part is when you get arguments between originalists who believe in original intent vs originalists who believe in strict construction. Original intent lets you consider outside sources. Strict construction is “bound by the four corners of the document.” Thomas, I think, is more of an original intent originalist. Scalia was notorious for going back and forth on which approach he used, mostly because he was much more outcome oriented than Thomas, who tends to be more process oriented.
It has it’s place in jurisprudence, in large part because it is useful to know the origins of certain laws before considering all the history that came after that law was passed. But to simply say “this is what it meant in 1805 so that is what it means now” is incredibly lazy.
Speaking of Scalia being outcome-oriented, how is his opinion in Heller consistent with any kind of originalism?
The founders clearly didn’t intend an individual right to keep and bear arms unconnected in any way with militia service, nor is that what the text of the second amendment says.
IMO a much more honest way to get to the result in Heller is to assert an unenumerated right to self-defense/individual RKBA that suffices to defeat a total handgun ban as DC tried in that case.
re: #97 Joe Bacon 🌹
Expand the House to 1251, each state has a minimum of 3 reps. 1001 seats by nonpartisan drawn districts and 250 apportioned at large by proportional representation.
Expand the Senate to 250, 3 Senators from each state staggered 6 year terms and 100 elected by proportional representation every 2 years at large
The number of Senators per state is fixed by the Constitution and would require a Constitutional amendment. There is no way such a proposal would be passed by the Congress or agreed to by the states.
re: #76 Patricia Kayden
There’s 13 circuits (11 numbered, plus DC and the Federal Circuit), and it would make sense to have 13 Supreme Court justices so that one justice would serve as a circuit justice for each circuit.
I think any sort of expansion is going to have to be post-Trump and is going to require some sort of compromise where two appointments happen the term before a presidential election year and two after - maybe one per year over the course of 4 years.
Your whole “America is so racist!!!” narrative really doesn’t fit together when you have to hire black guys to play the part of racist white men.
Thanks, Jussie, for proving that racism is so minor in America that you have to fake it.— Kaitlin Bennett (@KaitMarieox) February 19, 2019
re: #47 lawhawk
Trump’s in no rush to dismantle North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. That’s not a threat? Really?
Who’s telling him that? Putin?
Oh.
I’m sure Japan (and probably South Korea) are going to be *thrilled* to hear this. Just *thrilled*.
re: #83 HappyWarrior
You’d need 25 more states for that and or an amendment. I favor increasing the size of the House tho which I think can be done without an amendment.
I was actually proposing switching to 3 senators per state.
re: #108 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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One of the better quotes from Braveheart seems appropriate:
“Who is this person that speaks to me as if I needed [her] advice…”
re: #105 EPR-radar
Speaking of Scalia being outcome-oriented, how is his opinion in Heller consistent with any kind of originalism?
The founders clearly didn’t intend an individual right to keep and bear arms unconnected in any way with militia service, nor is that what the text of the second amendment says.
IMO a much more honest way to get to the result in Heller is to assert an unenumerated right to self-defense/individual RKBA that suffices to defeat a total handgun ban as DC tried in that case.
It wasn’t, it was totally outcome based.
That said, I am a big defender of the Court’s power to recognize unenumerated rights under the Ninth Amendment, and I think a right to self-defense is properly considered in that context (that doesn’t mean that can or should be considered unlimited). But that’s not a particularly popular view of constitutional law in most circles. The federal judiciary has always been wary of going that route.
McCabe says the FBI briefed congressional leaders in both parties about its investigation of President Trump in order to ensure Congress knew what the bureau was doing. They sound pretty terrible at coup-plotting. https://t.co/URXKHS34YT
— Josh Campbell (@joshscampbell) February 19, 2019
re: #114 Joe Bacon 🌹
We knew that was coming.
Sad part is if Beretta Barbie had bothered to understand the story she’d know that Smollett only did what he did because he felt the white people around him DID NOT CARE ENOUGH about racism to want to do more about it.
re: #113 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
DEEP STATE COUP ATTEMPT!!!!
re: #108 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Is this Kent State Gun Girl or some other wingnut welfare beneficiary?
re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg
I was actually proposing switching to 3 senators per state.
It’s an interesting idea. It would mean that every state would have a Senate election every two years. But I’m not sure how much it would change the calculus for the Senate. There are only 9 states that currently have Senators from different parties (10 if you don’t count Sanders as a Democrat).
re: #117 Sir John Barron
Is this Kent State Gun Girl or some other wingnut welfare beneficiary?
Yep, that’s gun girl.
re: #108 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
It took her a long time to assemble the most predictable conservative take ever.
re: #117 Sir John Barron
Is this Kent State Gun Girl or some other wingnut welfare beneficiary?
Same moron. Different day.
Loos at my anecdote demolishing your centuries of data everybody!
re: #88 MsJ
From downstairs…
I think the Russians definitely impacted the race…and I think they will again.
Clinton’s had mostly republican manufactured baggage…and they will do that to any and every democrat again.
I honestly do not see any differences except that Hillary, the most respected woman on the planet, had republicans lying about her for a longer time.
I don’t see changes in Facebook. I don’t see changes in Twitter. I don’t see any less lies from Republicans. Do you?
The Russians definitely don’t help, but we have our own Fifth Columnists who hate women and don’t want to see them in positions of authority. I pointed out last night that the current president of the Southern Baptist Convention, JD Greear, equated female and “gay” pastors to sexual predator pastors. I chewed out one guy on Twitter by pointing out that being a woman or LGBTQ was not illegal, but preying on kids WAS.
However, the deeper point is that a lot of our Evangelicals think that women are simply disqualified because of the “sin of Eve” (i.e., that she was deceived and ate the fruit). There were a lot of these pastors who stated boldly in 2016 (and before) that women should not be president and there are others who will tell you that women shouldn’t even be in political office, period.
I could see the Russians picking this up and running with it to influence 2020.
Uhhhh pic.twitter.com/24UXt1kuQ5
— Drema🐬🌊 (@DREE_mah) February 19, 2019
Another fake Trump Administration “emergency” flying under the radar:
The U.S. Environmental PROTECTION Agency reported last week that in 2018 it issued so-called “emergency” approvals to spray sulfoxaflor—an insecticide that is “very highly toxic” to bees—on more than 16 million acres of crops known to attract bees. https://t.co/Yf18stggPv
— Nathaniel St. Clair (@NatStClair) February 19, 2019
“Spraying 16 million acres of bee-attractive crops with a bee-killing pesticide in a time of global insect decline is beyond the pale, even for the Trump administration,” said Nathan Donley, a senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. “The EPA is routinely misusing the ‘emergency’ process to get sulfoxaflor approved because it’s too toxic to make it through normal pesticide reviews.”
Under the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act, the EPA has the authority to approve temporary emergency uses of pesticides, even those not officially approved, if the agency determines it is needed to prevent the spread of an unexpected outbreak of crop-damaging insects, for example. But the provision has been widely abused.
re: #124 mmmirele
The Russians definitely don’t help, but we have our own Fifth Columnists who hate women and don’t want to see them in positions of authority. I pointed out last night that the current president of the Southern Baptist Convention, JD Greear, equated female and “gay” pastors to sexual predator pastors. I chewed out one guy on Twitter by pointing out that being a woman or LGBTQ was not illegal, but preying on kids WAS.
However, the deeper point is that a lot of our Evangelicals think that women are simply disqualified because of the “sin of Eve” (i.e., that she was deceived and ate the fruit). There were a lot of these pastors who stated boldly in 2016 (and before) that women should not be president and there are others who will tell you that women shouldn’t even be in political office, period.
I could see the Russians picking this up and running with it to influence 2020.
And even on our side, we have people picking out every little thing in order to shit on any Dem that just happens to be a woman, even when said sins never quite reach the level of male pols, Republican or Dem. (Conveniently, the only Dem woman that seems to be spared the furor from the same lefty groups hating most of the female candidates? One Sen. Gabbard, who has an infinite amount of baggage worth actually criticizing and dismissing her for, and it doesn’t include shit about hot sauce or musical recollection or dumb trivial shit).
The distinct problem is that we have our own set of ratfuckers who seem intent on aiding Trump through inaction. And while they seem to have their sights set on burning down the Dem party as a whole, they seem especially susceptible to hair-raising bullshit toward Dems who are PoCs and/or Women. And they seem depressingly not insignificant.
re: #124 mmmirele
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However, the deeper point is that a lot of our Evangelicals think that women are simply disqualified because of the “sin of Eve” (i.e., that she was deceived and ate the fruit). There were a lot of these pastors who stated boldly in 2016 (and before) that women should not be president and there are others who will tell you that women shouldn’t even be in political office, period.I could see the Russians picking this up and running with it to influence 2020.
The modern day Evangelicals are irrelevant — they won’t vote for a Democrat anyway. There is nothing in the Democratic platform that would interest them — unless we abandoned all our principles and reinstated support for State’s Rights and outlawing abortion or equal rights for women.
re: #126 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Can we call a bombing strike on the factory that turns out the young Republican replicants?
re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg
I was actually proposing switching to 3 senators per state.
How is that going to deal with any issue of proportionality? At three Senators apiece, that still means (at approximate population figures), Wyoming will get one Senator for every 193,300 people, while California will have to get by with one for every 13,200,000. Or yet with the fact that “red” or “blue” states tend to send Senators to DC based on in-state partisan distributions and voting pattern. Kentucky, frex, is represented by Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul - who would their third Senator likely be? Probably Matt Bevin: how is that (and I’m sure other examples could be found) going to improve the Senate in any way?
“…There is no public record, in the Federal Register or otherwise, disclosing the total sorghum acreage covered by sulfoxaflor emergency exemptions, but in 2016 Texas’s specific exemption alone applied to 3 million acres of sorghum and in 2017 jumped to 5.5 million acres. Texas’s 2016 application is, at present, the only publicly available Section 18 application requesting this use. The information in this application reveals that, like in the case of cotton, states and growers are relying on Section 18 use of sulfoxaflor for revenue enhancement and to salvage poor business decisions. Texas’s application claims risk of significant economic loss for sorghum growers due to the rise of the sugarcane aphid. But it appears that even before the sugarcane aphid infestation in 2013, sorghum cultivation was a risky venture with razor-thin (if any) profit margins. Texas reported average yields and sorghum prices from before the aphid problem, in 2010, 2011 and 2012, and sorghum netted losses for all three of those years”
re: #97 Joe Bacon 🌹
Expand the House to 1251, each state has a minimum of 3 reps. 1001 seats by nonpartisan drawn districts and 250 apportioned at large by proportional representation.
Expand the Senate to 250, 3 Senators from each state staggered 6 year terms and 100 elected by proportional representation every 2 years at large
The first is easy. Pass the bill. It alone would help.
The second effectively impossible as it would require a constitutional amendment that will not get enough states to agree.
re: #101 ObserverArt
I know I am never going to change your mind. I admit, I am stumped a bit on how a woman doesn’t give another woman a chance. I know you will vote for the Democrat candidate anyway. So, there is that.
Maybe women are tougher on women than on guys. That is not directed at you so much as to all the women that did vote for Trump in spite of knowing how he treats women. I will never figure that out.
You are not changing my mind and are completely misreading what I am saying. I would vote for Harris in a NY minute. I voted for Clinton. I would vote for a woman who is qualified every day of the week.
My point is as a country, I do not think we will not win the EC with a woman as our candidate. This has absolutely nothing to do with my personal commitment to vote for whomever is qualified. We have a misogyny problem in this country, like we have a racism problem and a bunch of other isms.
re: #133 William Lewis
The first is easy. Pass the bill. It alone would help.
The second effectively impossible as it would require a constitutional amendment that will not get enough states to agree.
Yeah, the red states will go apeshit if they are at risk of losing their clout from the EC system.
re: #126 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Uhhhh pic.twitter.com/24UXt1kuQ5
— Drema🐬🌊 (@DREE_mah) February 19, 2019
The most
openlydeservedly persecuted group in America are Trump voters.
FTF Harlan.
re: #128 Citizen K
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The distinct problem is that we have our own set of ratfuckers who seem intent on aiding Trump through inaction. And while they seem to have their sights set on burning down the Dem party as a whole, they seem especially susceptible to hair-raising bullshit toward Dems who are PoCs and/or Women. And they seem depressingly not insignificant.
Aren’t these people all BernieBros who attack anyone not Bernie (or Tulsi)? There have been vicious assaults from this quarter on Beto.
re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
FTF Harlan.
They claim that and yet they claim that they’re the majority of Americans. Can’t be both, you dolts.
re: #134 MsJ
You are not changing my mind and are completely misreading what I am saying. I would vote for Harris in a NY minute. I voted for Clinton. I would vote for a woman who is qualified every day of the week.
My point is as a country, I do not think we will not win the EC with a woman as our candidate. This has absolutely nothing to do with my personal commitment to vote for whomever is qualified. We have a misogyny problem in this country, like we have a racism problem and a bunch of other isms.
I’m there as well. I want to believe a woman can be president in this country. I think we have women running that I would happily vote for. But I think this country is still not going to do it. I would love to be wrong but I do not believe it. Not because Hillary lost but because I think too many men AND women will not vote for a woman unless they meet a standard of absolute perfection in intellect, experience, appearance, demeanor, and family commitment no woman will be able to meet.
Question: Is the Democratic Party demanding that candidates in the primaries release their tax returns before they can compete? If so, how many years of returns?
Pray for me.
I just took a little peak at the tweets of one Harlan Z. Hill (See #126).
Sure, on the surface it appears to be more copies of the same wingnut bullshit, say from a male Kent State Kate.
But it may have been that one thin mint too much.
I better go find a bucket.
re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg
I was actually proposing switching to 3 senators per state.
Here’s the easiest solution:Maine stop electing Collins, PA no more Toomey, CO no more Gardner, WI no more Johnson. Then go after Montana we can turn it blue with enough effort. We have to stop letting Rs win in off years in blue states. Get two D senators in NM. So much more doable than Constitutional amendment.
re: #143 Old Liberal
Here’s the easiest solution:Maine stop electing Collins, PA no more Toomey, CO no more Gardner, WI no more Johnson. Then go after Montana we can turn it blue with enough effort. We have to stop letting Rs win in off years in blue states. Get two D senators in NM. So much more doable than Constitutional amendment.
To accomplish this, we also have to eliminate voter disenfranchisement and expand hours for voting.
re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter
To accomplish this, we also have to eliminate voter disenfranchisement and expand hours for voting.
Which is why we need to win off year elections too.
Conservatives are the people who get in line and complain about the wait, then when they finally make it to the front act like there aren’t still a bunch of people behind them. They talk about how “all lives matter” but consistently act like the experiences of other people don’t.
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) February 19, 2019
re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter
To accomplish this, we also have to eliminate voter disenfranchisement and expand hours for voting.
Yes and that can be done. In 2016 I kept asking my Democratic Party when Hillary was going to announce a registration drive in Milwaukee. I would have paid my own expenses to do that for two weeks. She never did it. Wonder how she lost Wisconsin. They beg and beg for $3 donations yet leave their biggest resource untapped.
I mentioned to my wingnut stepfather about expanding the Supreme Court. He told me “That’s unconstitutional!!!”
I didn’t bother.
re: #148 Ace Rothstein
I mentioned to my wingnut stepfather about expanding the Supreme Court. He told me “That’s unconstitutional!!!”
I didn’t bother.
I’m so sorry for your loss.
re: #134 MsJ
You are not changing my mind and are completely misreading what I am saying. I would vote for Harris in a NY minute. I voted for Clinton. I would vote for a woman who is qualified every day of the week.
My point is as a country, I do not think we will not win the EC with a woman as our candidate. This has absolutely nothing to do with my personal commitment to vote for whomever is qualified. We have a misogyny problem in this country, like we have a racism problem and a bunch of other isms.
And you took it personally. By saying I am not going to change your mind, I am taking into consideration of your complete point, the entire comment. That comment came out of your mind, it is what you believe.
I understand the point you are making. I just disagree. That is all.
I am not forgetting that we did elect Barrack Obama. We almost got a win with Hillary. America is not in favor of Trump’s wall by well over 60%. And a whole bunch of women just got elected to congress. Like Alexandria being young and Puerto Rican, we now have native Americans, Muslims, gun policy changing mothers and more Blacks as women congress members.
And how many Democratic women presidential candidates are there going to be when all are counted. We are at 5 now. I think they agree they have a good shot.
This shit is changing. It is why there is such a fight by conservatives to stop it.
re: #138 HappyWarrior
They claim that and yet they claim that they’re the majority of Americans. Can’t be both, you dolts.
Schrodingers Citizens
re: #140 BlueGrl21
I’m there as well. I want to believe a woman can be president in this country. I think we have women running that I would happily vote for. But I think this country is still not going to do it. I would love to be wrong but I do not believe it. Not because Hillary lost but because I think too many men AND women will not vote for a woman unless they meet a standard of absolute perfection in intellect, experience, appearance, demeanor, and family commitment no woman will be able to meet.
If one of the proposed women wins the Democratic nomination, I will work hard, donate, and vote for her. At the same time, I want the safest possible candidate even if not the most qualified. It will take 100 years to recover lost human progress after a second Trump term.
Win first, clean up the mess, then worry about scoring “firsts”.
But, but, Uranium One
So they were actually going to try to do this without a 123 agreement!? Wow. https://t.co/jgAwFD5Etz pic.twitter.com/2PjBy1axkI
— Kingston Reif (@KingstonAReif) February 19, 2019
Brouillette on status of talks: “We hope that they [Saudi] will pursue..a 123 agreement that will take care of the nonproliferation concerns that not only we have but the rest of the world has..We will continue to leave that door open as long as the Saudis want to leave it open”
— Kingston Reif (@KingstonAReif) February 19, 2019
re: #150 ObserverArt
And you took it personally. By saying I am not going to change your mind, I am taking into consideration of your complete point, the entire comment. That comment came out of your mind, it is what you believe.
I understand the point you are making. I just disagree. That is all.
I am not forgetting that we did elect Barrack Obama. We almost got a win with Hillary. America is not in favor of Trump’s wall by well over 60%. And a whole bunch of women just got elected to congress. Like Alexandria being young and Puerto Rican, we now have native Americans, Muslims, gun policy changing mothers and more Blacks as women congress members.
And how many Democratic women presidential candidates are there going to be when all are counted. We are at 5 now. I think they agree they have a good shot.
This shit is changing. It is why there is such a fight by conservatives to stop it.
I’m going to hope and pray you’re right. I think things are changing but I’m not sure if they’ll change enough in the remainder of my lifetime.
re: #97 Joe Bacon 🌹
This might be a dumb question, but where would all these new house and/or senate members meet and do their work? Isn’t the Capital designed to only accommodate what we have now? And what would renovations cost to remedy that? I honestly don’t know how that would work.
re: #141 Hecuba’s daughter
Question: Is the Democratic Party demanding that candidates in the primaries release their tax returns before they can compete? If so, how many years of returns?
Here is an image I saved to post when the questions about the new rules get asked. It was from the vote by the party to accept the new rules. I think that all happened about a full year ago now.
I thought tax form disclosure was a part but it doesn’t appear here, and so far I haven’t found anything, though I thought I remember someone talking about the need.
re: #140 BlueGrl21
I’m there as well. I want to believe a woman can be president in this country. I think we have women running that I would happily vote for. But I think this country is still not going to do it. I would love to be wrong but I do not believe it. Not because Hillary lost but because I think too many men AND women will not vote for a woman unless they meet a standard of absolute perfection in intellect, experience, appearance, demeanor, and family commitment no woman will be able to meet.
70,000 votes across three states. That’s how close we were to having a woman as president. The campaign took those three states for granted, as was mentioned upthread, they didn’t even do voter registration drives in Wisconsin. It’s going to happen, and probably in the next election.
There were all sorts of built in biases against Clinton - resulting in the fact that she was the second least popular major party nominee in history (the first being Trump). And still she won the popular vote by three million votes.
So, the resident Bernie Bot on my FB feed is beside himself with joy that this time, Bernie is going to convince a majority of Americans and the EC that an avowed socialist should run the US.
Which, in of itself, is not really an issue. What’s taunting my honey badger is that this guy is a fucking conspiracy machine when it comes to why Bernie lost. Same guy who shakes his head at how out-to-lunch the MAGAts are will tell you breathlessly how Bernie, and anyone associated with him 2016, lost because the Dems fixed the elections.
I’ve told him to his face several times the “conspiracy” involved Clinton actually being more popular and qualified than Sanders, therefore winning more votes. Funny how elections work like that.
We run into each other a lot when walking dogs, and while it’s nice to have another liberal to talk to, I can’t fucking deal with the conspiracy shit anymore. I avoided him today for this reason.
Even if they voted for Clinton, Sanders supporters did so much fucking damage in 2016 that when combined with the Russian interference, it’s amazing that Clinton did as well as she did in the general.
Seriously; fuck Bernie and his fragile “Bernie is the Jesus candidate everyone should vote for” followers. You might as well vote for Trump, as that’s what the result will be if Sanders stays in.
re: #155 A Mom Anon
This might be a dumb question, but where would all these new house and/or senate members meet and do their work? Isn’t the Capital designed to only accommodate what we have now? And what would renovations cost to remedy that? I honestly don’t know how that would work.
There would have to be a new facility for both office space as well as legislative chambers. The house chamber in the Capitol would, of necessity, become a pure historical exhibit. The senate, since it will not change except with the addition of states (Puerto Rico, DC, 3 sets of Pacific Islands, Virgin Islands) can remain in the Capitol.
re: #155 A Mom Anon
This might be a dumb question, but where would all these new house and/or senate members meet and do their work? Isn’t the Capital designed to only accommodate what we have now? And what would renovations cost to remedy that? I honestly don’t know how that would work.
This was my rather convoluted solution.
re: #156 ObserverArt
Here is an image I saved to post when the questions about the new rules get asked. It was from the vote by the party to accept the new rules. I think that all happened about a full year ago now.
I thought tax form disclosure was a part but it doesn’t appear here, and so far I haven’t found anything, though I thought I remember someone talking about the need.
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The only things I’ve seen are proposals that pass the House and have no chance in the Senate.
re: #158 Mattand
How often does the person who finishes second in a prior Democratic primary end up the presidential nominee in a following cycle? Other than Hillary Clinton, I can’t think of any.
re: #152 Decatur Deb
If one of the proposed women wins the Democratic nomination, I will work hard, donate, and vote for her. At the same time, I want the safest possible candidate even if not the most qualified. It will take 100 years to recover lost human progress after a second Trump term.
Win first, clean up the mess, then worry about scoring “firsts”.
Safe can be dangerous too.
These are not ordinary political times. Women are motivated. How many take it to the streets and voter drives do they need to show they are probably more motivated then men and more motivated for change for their needs than ever.
Look what they are up against. I think they have more to lose than guys do at this time. Just a feel from what I see going on.
If we put a guy in that is not up to what women want it too could be costly.
Something about striking while the iron is hot.
re: #154 MsJ
I’m going to hope and pray you’re right. I think things are changing but I’m not sure if they’ll change enough in the remainder of my lifetime.
And you are younger than I am I believe.
I admit, I am an optimist. I sometimes feel like a salmon swimming upstream here. I’ve had this problem my whole life.
re: #157 KGxvi
70,000 votes across three states. That’s how close we were to having a woman as president. The campaign took those three states for granted, as was mentioned upthread, they didn’t even do voter registration drives in Wisconsin. It’s going to happen, and probably in the next election.
It did happen in the next election (midterms), and I expect it again, but more, in the general. Remember, it’s the Repugs who don’t have reserves to draw on — we brought ours out in 2018, and we’ll do better. (As to Russian and other interference, it can’t hurt that we know what to look at now.)
Nearly 18 years after the 2001 AUMF authorized the invasion of Afghanistan, which Iran assisted the US in stabilizing, the Trump administration is now trying to argue that the same AUMF authorizes war against Iran. That is insane. That is the Forever War.
— Matt Duss (@mattduss) February 19, 2019
re: #163 ObserverArt
Safe can be dangerous too.
These are not ordinary political times. Women are motivated. How many take it to the streets and voter drives do they need to show they are probably more motivated then men and more motivated for change for their needs than ever.
Look what they are up against. I think they have more to lose than guys do at this time. Just a feel from what I see going on.
If we put a guy in that is not up to what women want it too could be costly.
Something about striking while the iron is hot.
Safest might be a woman. We need a metric for it, but right now I’d align the field as Biden—Warren/Beto—HRC—Others. It’s still early days.
BBC takes note. I hate to think about how this plays to the Beeb’s international audience.
Alabama newspaper editor calls on KKK to lynch Democrats
The editor and publisher of a local paper in Alabama is under fire for penning an editorial calling for mass lynchings by the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).
The opinion piece ran in his print-only newspaper, the Democrat-Reporter, last Thursday, Goodloe Sutton confirmed on Tuesday.
He said Democrats were going to raise taxes and that the KKK should hang them and raid Washington DC.
Alabama lawmakers have called for Sutton to resign.
Sweet baby Jesus, take me home. https://t.co/svpbtwCxMf
— Karoli (@Karoli) February 19, 2019
re: #157 KGxvi
70,000 votes across three states. That’s how close we were to having a woman as president. The campaign took those three states for granted, as was mentioned upthread, they didn’t even do voter registration drives in Wisconsin. It’s going to happen, and probably in the next election.
There were all sorts of built in biases against Clinton - resulting in the fact that she was the second least popular major party nominee in history (the first being Trump). And still she won the popular vote by three million votes.
Isn’t it 106,105? From my tallies from Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin that is what I came up with. Am I missing something?
re: #170 ObserverArt
Isn’t it 106,105? From my tallies from Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin that is what I came up with. Am I missing something?
Was drawing from memory, so you may be right.
re: #162 KGxvi
How often does the person who finishes second in a prior Democratic primary end up the presidential nominee in a following cycle? Other than Hillary Clinton, I can’t think of any.
On the other hand I also can’t think of any other defeated Dem primary candidate who joined their opponent’s administration in any capacity, let alone as a cabinet level officer.
re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter
He might not sue — but there are others who will take the opportunity for the opening that Clarence Thomas left and try to, in effect, repeal the First Amendment for all non-Trumpers.
Right - even though Trump is a con man, what he says is dangerous because he’s giving license to others to indulge their repressive fantasies.
Democratic Party has to be aware and prepared for unprecedented digital disruption including mass last minute erasure of voter registration and outright changing vote tallies. In every blue state they should be dismantling electronic voter apparatus and instituting paper ballots. A massive ratfucking could destroy electoral legitimacy for good in 2020
re: #170 ObserverArt
Isn’t it 106,105? From my tallies from Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin that is what I came up with. Am I missing something?
Depends on when the number gelled in the popular mind. The early meme grabbed “less than 80,000”.
re: #166 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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This is the Trump that promised to get America out of these wars?
re: #173 Charles Johnson
Right - even though Trump is a con man, what he says is dangerous because he’s giving license to others to indulge their repressive fantasies.
So much this.
re: #167 Decatur Deb
Safest might be a woman. We need a metric for it, but right now I’d align the field as Biden—Warren/Beto—HRC—Others. It’s still early days.
Did you just move the goal posts on me???
Damn you Deb! : )
I firmly believe that this country will not elect a woman President. Really hope I’m wrong, but I know too many men and women who flat-out won’t vote for a woman.
Trump needs to go. We need to run the most electable candidate.
re: #178 ObserverArt
Did you just move the goal posts on me???
Damn you Deb! : )
I said “safest”. Right now, we don’t know who that is. Nate Silver is a glass, darkly.
re: #162 KGxvi
How often does the person who finishes second in a prior Democratic primary end up the presidential nominee in a following cycle? Other than Hillary Clinton, I can’t think of any.
I don’t think it’s happened in a long time.
2008: Obama: Nope
2004: Kerry: Nope
2000: Gore: Nope but had been Clinton’s VP and Clinton left that year
1992: Clinton: Nope
1988: Dukakis: Nope
1984: Mondale: Nope but had been Carter’s VP
1976: Carter: Nope
1972: McGovern: Nope
1968: Humphrey: Nope though he had ran in 1960 against JFK.
1964: LBJ: Yes but he had been JFK’s running mate
1960: JFK: Nope.
1956/52: Stevenson: So yeah.
re: #172 goddamnedfrank
On the other hand I also can’t think of any defeated Dem primary candidate who joined their opponent’s administration in any capacity, let alone as a cabinet level officer.
Uh, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama’s administration?
re: #182 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
Uh, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama’s administration?
Exempting Clinton I think.
re: #166 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Fun facts:
Afghanistan - 652k sq miles, population of 31m people
Iraq - 168k sq miles, population 37m people
Iran - 636k sq miles, population 81m people
They’re basically wanting to go to war with a country with the landmass of Alaska and more than double the population of California. That seems like a not very smart idea.
re: #182 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
Uh, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama’s administration?
That’s what I was referring to, should have put an “other” after any.
re: #181 HappyWarrior
I don’t think it’s happened in a long time.
2008: Obama: Nope
2004: Kerry: Nope
2000: Gore: Nope but had been Clinton’s VP and Clinton left that year
1992: Clinton: Nope
1988: Dukakis: Nope
1984: Mondale: Nope but had been Carter’s VP
1976: Carter: Nope
1972: McGovern: Nope
1968: Humphrey: Nope though he had ran in 1960 against JFK.
1964: LBJ: Yes but he had been JFK’s running mate
1960: JFK: Nope.
1956/52: Stevenson: So yeah.
So Humphrey and Clinton are basically it, right?
Unlike the GOP where Reagan ran in ‘76 before winning in ‘80, GWH Bush losing in ‘80 and winning in ‘88, McCain in 2000/2008, and Romney in 2008/2012?
re: #164 ObserverArt
And you are younger than I am I believe.
I admit, I am an optimist. I sometimes feel like a salmon swimming upstream here. I’ve had this problem my whole life.
It’s not a problem, is glorious. Don’t ever change!
I’m a realist. Not a pessimist just a realist. And I’m a noticer…I see trends and such. The trend I’m seeing in this country is very ugly. Will there be enough people to counter it? That’s an optimism we can share. I’m cautiously hopeful.
Trump can’t be taken out of office soon enough. And the entire GOP needs to go down with him. This is outrageous conduct.
Stunning report from @nytimes. Ordering McGahn to fire Mueller, floating pardons, & now asking Whitaker to replace the head of SDNY criminal probe: Individual-1 seems deeply afraid of investigations encircling his company, foundation, campaign, inauguration, transition, & admin. https://t.co/L7B4EivMnc
— Richard Blumenthal (@SenBlumenthal) February 19, 2019
re: #184 KGxvi
Fun facts:
Afghanistan - 652k sq miles, population of 31m people
Iraq - 168k sq miles, population 37m people
Iran - 636k sq miles, population 81m peopleThey’re basically wanting to go to war with a country with the landmass of Alaska and more than double the population of California. That seems like a not very smart idea.
Even beat up as the DoD might be, we could do all the things that define a win, then spend the next 15 years regretting it.
re: #170 ObserverArt
Isn’t it 106,105? From my tallies from Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin that is what I came up with. Am I missing something?
Wikipedia shows a difference of under 80,000. Or is that not the most accurate count?
re: #180 Decatur Deb
I said “safest”. Right now, we don’t know who that is. Nate Silver is a glass, darkly.
Your use of the word “firsts” threw me off.
Excuse me…the current is getting rather strong now.
I guess having to defeat the most obviously worst president in all of our history is not going to be as easy as it really should be.
The Republicans meanwhile until Trump ahd the next in line thing down almost perfectly.
2012: Romney: Yep, he had been runner up to McCain.
2008: McCain: Yep, he had been runner up to Bush
2000: Bush: No he didn’t run in 1996 but he was a former President’s son.
1996: Dole: Yep, he had ran in 1988 and was Ford’s running mate.
1988: Bush I: Yep, he had been a primary contender of Reagan’s and his VP
1980: Reagan: Yep, he had lost to Ford in the 76 primary
1976: Ford: No but very special circumstances
1968: Nixon: Yes, he had been nominated eight years prior
1964: Goldwater: Sorta, he had ran in 1960 against Nixon and Rockefeller
1960: Nixon: Yes: Was Ike’s running mate
1952: Ike: Nope
1948/44: Dewey: Yeah he had been a candidate in 1940 too.
So really until Trump, the only two Republicans that were completely out of left field were Ike and Ford who as I said was an unique circumstance.
re: #190 Decatur Deb
Even beat up as the DoD might be, we could do all the things that define a win, then spend the next 15 years regretting it.
A big part of the problem we have as a nation when it comes to the use of military force is that we’re really good at winning the war, but we just don’t seem to have the wherewithal to win the peace. We seem to have forgotten the lesson of World War I - you can’t just go and break everything and leave. Nobody seems capable of realizing a war is a generational commitment.
re: #191 Hecuba’s daughter
Wikipedia shows a difference of under 80,000. Or is that not the most accurate count?
I think I used the final vote counts for each state from a Time magazine article on the web a few months ago. Maybe they were wrong, but it has been some time since all the votes have been in.
re: #186 KGxvi
So Humphrey and Clinton are basically it, right?
Unlike the GOP where Reagan ran in ‘76 before winning in ‘80, GWH Bush losing in ‘80 and winning in ‘88, McCain in 2000/2008, and Romney in 2008/2012?
Yeah and I think Humphrey is sort of pushing it. Related to this is how the Dems didn’t give as much attention to John Edwards in 2008 after 2004 or even how Biden did worse in 2008 than 1988. McGovern also tried running again in 1984 after losing in 1972. Republican voters are much more willing to pass the baton than Democratic ones. Our next President IMO wlil be someone who has not ran for the Democratic nomination before this one so I’d bet against Bernie and Biden.
re: #193 HappyWarrior
Democrats want to fall in love, Republicans fall in line
re: #192 ObserverArt
Your use of the word “firsts” threw me off.
Excuse me…the current is getting rather strong now.
I guess having to defeat the most obviously worst president in all of our history is not going to be as easy as it really should be.
Yup. I see Old White Male Biden as likely the safest, but he hasn’t even committed yet. It is going to be tremendously hard to one-term Trump unless he craters the economy before election day.
re: #197 KGxvi
Democrats want to fall in love, Republicans fall in line
And perhaps that was the mistake last time with HRC. It came off IMO wrongfully that they were just falling in line before her. It’s not her fault that Sanders ended up her only credible primary challenger and that O’Malley (Who I liked), Webb (Who I dislike despite being a former constituent), and Chaffee (Nice guy but meh) flopped. Meanwhile, the GOP voters definitely fell in love with Trump. The GOP post Trump is an interesting thing to ponder about. I don’t think Pence will be able to replace him but I don’t think establishment ass puppets like Rubio can win either.
re: #194 KGxvi
A big part of the problem we have as a nation when it comes to the use of military force is that we’re really good at winning the war, but we just don’t seem to have the wherewithal to win the peace. We seem to have forgotten the lesson of World War I - you can’t just go and break everything and leave. Nobody seems capable of realizing a war is a generational commitment.
That may be true of a real war and a war military.
I think the problem is one that has been talked about since Vietnam.
It is the one that I thought a guy like John McCain understood. He appeared to when younger, but he too became another that seemed to love a good military policing move from the world’s greatest power or something.
We are not a military in these “wars,” we are a standing police force trying to exert political will on countries that are sovereign.
It is a bad look and it is not what a military should be doing in my opinion and I think many used to think that way.
I’m phrasing that terribly and I hope it doesn’t read like I’m saying HRC didn’t earn the nomination. She did but I think people wrongly got the impression that she was the nominee just because it was “her turn.” It’s bs honestly. She did beat the guy I’m told is the most beloved politician in America, a former two term governor who actually increased his vote percentage in 2010, a Governor who had been Senator too, and yeah even Webb who had some street cred after knocking off George Allen.
re: #190 Decatur Deb
Even beat up as the DoD might be, we could do all the things that define a win, then spend the next 15 years regretting it.
I don’t see any feasible way to go to war with Iran and keep oil flowing reliably through the Straight of Hormuz, which makes it that much harder to get many allies for the venture.
re: #180 Decatur Deb
I said “safest”. Right now, we don’t know who that is. Nate Silver is a glass, darkly.
When there are contentious debates about why any past race was won when we have the advantage of hindsight and exit polls, I think anyone who claims to know who the safest candidate might be is posing their own desire as a prediction.
re: #202 goddamnedfrank
I don’t see any feasible way to go to war with Iran and keep oil flowing reliably through the Straight of Hormuz, which makes it that much harder to get many allies for the venture.
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
He would catch a grenade for Trump,
Throw his head on a blade for Trump,
Jump in front of a train for Trump…
Slice out his whole brain for Trump …
With that I think we’ve pretty well captured the Trump “base.”
Everybody talking about how the Sullivan v. NYT (1964) is ancient history and old, old precedent. It is not old, goddamnit. 1964 was only, like, 25 years ago!!!!
re: #155 A Mom Anon
This might be a dumb question, but where would all these new house and/or senate members meet and do their work? Isn’t the Capital designed to only accommodate what we have now? And what would renovations cost to remedy that? I honestly don’t know how that would work.
I think that they should build a gymnasium, like in high school, and everyone can sit on the hard benches every day. Perhaps they’d actually get some work done.
moron
I never said anything bad about Andrew McCabe’s wife other than she (they) should not have taken large amounts of campaign money from a Crooked Hillary source when Clinton was under investigation by the FBI. I never called his wife a loser to him (another McCabe made up lie)!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 19, 2019
re: #198 Decatur Deb
Yup. I see Old White Male Biden as likely the safest, but he hasn’t even committed yet. It is going to be tremendously hard to one-term Trump unless he craters the economy before election day.
Right now my favorite ticket is Biden/Harris. But don’t hold me to that a year from now or even later tonight.
re: #202 goddamnedfrank
I don’t see any feasible way to go to war with Iran and keep oil flowing reliably through the Straight of Hormuz, which makes it that much harder to get many allies for the venture.
We care about allies now? Hmmm.
re: #198 Decatur Deb
It is going to be tremendously hard to one-term Trump unless he craters the economy before election day.
I will continue to work as if that were true, but I don’t think it is. Trump has lost support since 2016, and I expect him to lose more. Meanwhile, Democrats have woken up, and a lot of them will vote as if their lives depended on it.
(Maybe being in Alabama makes it easy to be pessimistic? I don’t, alas, see your state going blue. Being in California might tend me to optimism, but I see swing states swinging lefter as we speak.)
re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth
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And if you knew anything about Virginia politics, you would know why McCabe’s wife got a lot of money. She was running against a right wign kook like you who has a serious hard on for dictators. Fuck off, you traitorous piece of shit.
What the hell is going on?! https://t.co/fsAu3bJjW6
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) February 19, 2019
re: #212 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
I will continue to work as if that were true, but I don’t think it is. Trump has lost support since 2016, and I expect him to lose more. Meanwhile, Democrats have woken up, and a lot of them will vote as if their lives depended on it.
(Maybe being in Alabama makes it easy to be pessimistic? I don’t, alas, see your state going blue. Being in California might tend me to optimism, but I see swing states swinging lefter as we speak.)
You know another thing is I think we’re due for a one term President. I don’t want to act like Trump winning re-election is impossible- it’s not but the odds I think are against him right now and I think we’re unfortunately letting the past haunt us here.
re: #215 HappyWarrior
You know another thing is I think we’re due for a one term President. I don’t want to act like Trump winning re-election is impossible- it’s not but the odds I think are against him right now and I think we’re unfortunately letting the past haunt us here.
In two years trump has not done one thing to support anyone who wasn’t a supporter prior to his wining the election. Not one thing.
re: #157 KGxvi
70,000 votes across three states. That’s how close we were to having a woman as president. The campaign took those three states for granted, as was mentioned upthread, they didn’t even do voter registration drives in Wisconsin. It’s going to happen, and probably in the next election….
Actually, in Clinton’s book “What Happened,” she disputes that in great detail.
re: #217 retired cynic
Actually, in Clinton’s book “What Happened,” she disputes that in great detail.
Disputes what specifically?
re: #210 whitebeach
Right now my favorite ticket is Biden/Harris. But don’t hold me to that a year from now or even later tonight.
Interesting ticket there. I believe you are the first person I’ve seen put that together.
This is my All Time Favorite President #TheResistance #Resist #FakeNews #TrumpFake pic.twitter.com/PfiqFnApTw
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 19, 2019
Deathly cold, deathly pale, I keep on hating. pic.twitter.com/SYsiAXe6DB
— Black Metal Cats (@evilbmcats) February 19, 2019
re: #155 A Mom Anon
This might be a dumb question, but where would all these new house and/or senate members meet and do their work? Isn’t the Capital designed to only accommodate what we have now? And what would renovations cost to remedy that? I honestly don’t know how that would work.
I will donate to the GoFundMe to build the new building. 😀
re: #218 Old Liberal
Disputes what specifically?
That her campaign took those three states for granted.
re: #163 ObserverArt
Safe can be dangerous too.
These are not ordinary political times. Women are motivated. How many take it to the streets and voter drives do they need to show they are probably more motivated then men and more motivated for change for their needs than ever.
Look what they are up against. I think they have more to lose than guys do at this time. Just a feel from what I see going on.
If we put a guy in that is not up to what women want it too could be costly.
Something about striking while the iron is hot.
You don’t play it safe against the New England Patriots in the final three minutes of the game.
re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Just to make it clear how much fun a war with Iran would be, this is my quick and dirty markup of the area we’d need to worry about. They can hit any space in red inside the Gulf with a Noor antiship missile. Any space in red inside Iran represents where they could fire them from and cover their own coastline. Main takeaway here being there is a lot of territory around the Straight of Hormuz where they could launch from and easily saturate the defensive capabilities of a carrier group.
A perspective question for everyone: Who ever imagined the House Democrats would have the makeup they do now, actually representing America?
re: #224 Belafon
You don’t play it safe against the New England Patriots in the final three minutes of the game.
I reject your metaphor. Donald Trump is in no way the New England Patriots of anything…
re: #226 goddamnedfrank
Just to make it clear how much fun a war with Iran would be, this is my quick and dirty markup of the area we’d need to worry about. They can hit any space in red inside the Gulf with a Noor antiship missile. Any space in red inside Iran represents where they can fire them from and cover their own coastline. Main takeaway here being there is a lot of territory around the Straight of Hormuz where they could launch from and easily saturate the defensive capabilities of a carrier group.
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Putin can’t end the nost powerful military fleet in existence without sinking it to the bottom of the sea.
re: #228 danarchy
I reject your metaphor. Donald Trump is in no way the New England Patriots of anything…
The only thing I like about the Patriots is that don’t quit until the game is over. It’s the one trait everyone should have. Life isn’t a game, but it is composed of a bunch of small ones.
re: #228 danarchy
I reject your metaphor. Donald Trump is in no way the New England Patriots of anything…
You’re right. Donald Trump would never wear uggs. :)
I’m kidding ya.
Many layers of stupid here.
Man arrested for punching, pouring coffee on Sikh 7-Eleven clerk — because he thought the man was Muslim
A California man was charged with a hate crime after allegedly punching and throwing hot coffee on a Sikh 7-Eleven employee.
Surveillance footage shows the man, identified as John Crain, attacking the clerk near the store’s exit early Wednesday. The employee told the Marysville Police Department that Crain had tried to leave without paying for his coffee, the Sacramento Bee reports.
Crain later admitted to assaulting the clerk and told the police that he hates Muslims, according to the Bee. Local news station CBS13 confirmed that the clerk was actually Sikh, not Muslim. Police said he was injured by the hot coffee and had a contusion on his face.
re: #215 HappyWarrior
You know another thing is I think we’re due for a one term President. I don’t want to act like Trump winning re-election is impossible- it’s not but the odds I think are against him right now and I think we’re unfortunately letting the past haunt us here.
It is the case that we have never had four consecutive Presidents re-elected to second terms. Clinton-Bush-Obama is only the second time we’ve had three consecutive Presidents re-elected.
re: #228 danarchy
I reject your metaphor. Donald Trump is in no way the New England Patriots of anything…
They both pass the Jagoff Test.
Lre: #232 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Many layers of stupid here.
Man arrested for punching, pouring coffee on Sikh 7-Eleven clerk — because he thought the man was Muslim
Why do people do this? There’s a mini mart I get my beer from. Don’t know where the guy is from originally or what religion he is or isn’t but we always make small talk over my beer selections and I’m happy to support a mom and pop business.
Trump: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!! 🚨
Me: *grabs my hair crimper and leg warmers* 👍🏻 pic.twitter.com/TlPGbpsTLU— Randy Rainbow (@RandyRainbow) February 19, 2019
re: #232 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Many layers of stupid here.
Man arrested for punching, pouring coffee on Sikh 7-Eleven clerk — because he thought the man was Muslim
You scared me for a second. The 7-Eleven that I frequent on the way to and from work is run by a very nice Sikh family, and I’m always afraid that some MAGAt from here in Congressmen Underindictmentforcampaignfinanceviolations-R land will do something like this to them.
re: #228 danarchy
I reject your metaphor. Donald Trump is in no way the New England Patriots of anything…
Well, he does cheat a lot.
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re: #237 Jack Burton
You scared me for a second. The 7-Eleven that I frequent on the way to and from work is run by a very nice Sikh family, and I’m always afraid that some MAGAt from here in Congressmen Underindictmentforcampaignfinanceviolations-R land will do something like this to them.
Worry the same about the store I was talking about too. You just hate reading shit like this. And then seeing some douchebag Trumper insist they’re victims.
re: #223 retired cynic
That her campaign took those three states for granted.
Well I know that within three days of the election trump was in Eau fucking Claire WI pop 70k and Hillary was in Arizona “running up the score”. Not taking something for granted means knowing what the fuck the score is. She didn’t know. Just like the surprised husband who swears he never took his ex-wife for granted.
re: #235 HappyWarrior
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Why do people do this? There’s a mini mart I get my beer from. Don’t know where the guy is from originally or what religion he is or isn’t but we always make small talk over my beer selections and I’m happy to support a mom and pop business.
These morons go after anyone who wears a turban, which is fucked up in and of itself because there are plenty of Muslims that do NOT wear turbans. There were several Sikhs killed in the days after 9/11 because of this bullshit.
re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg
These morons go after anyone who wears a turban, which is fucked up in and of itself because there are plenty of Muslims that do NOT wear turbans. There were several Sikhs killed in the days after 9/11 because of this bullshit.
If these guys ever met Bosnians, their heads would explode. No different really ethnically from my grandfather who was Slovene American and his best friend who was Serbian American. Just they’re typically Muslim and Grandpa was Catholic and his pal is Orthodox but their overall culture is similar.
Wow, I am really sad and discouraged that the attitude of so many here is that women need not apply. It really drains my motivation and excitement.
re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg
These morons go after anyone who wears a turban, which is fucked up in and of itself because there are plenty of Muslims that do NOT wear turbans. There were several Sikhs killed in the days after 9/11 because of this bullshit.
I think for most of these morons brown skin and an accent is enough reason to commit violence. They’re not to worried about the finer points
re: #244 Charmingly Persistent
Wow, I am really sad and discouraged that the attitude of so many here is that women need not apply. It really drains my motivation and excitement.
Qualified is qualified, no matter who it is.
Scanning back through the comments, I’m seeing that Lizards aren’t saying they wouldn’t vote for a woman for President, quite the opposite; it’s that they’re saying they see enough of the country still not open to that possibility because of deep-seated misogyny in this country, even after Hillary’s 2016 performance, and bemoaning it, not supporting it.
re: #244 Charmingly Persistent
Wow, I am really sad and discouraged that the attitude of so many here is that women need not apply. It really drains my motivation and excitement.
Not me, makes me want to try harder. Everyone has an opinion.
re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg
These morons go after anyone who wears a turban, which is fucked up in and of itself because there are plenty of Muslims that do NOT wear turbans. There were several Sikhs killed in the days after 9/11 because of this bullshit.
Reminds me of the drunk teenagers who were arrested for vandalizing the Lubbock Islamic Center a few years ago. They told the cops that they were looking for a synagogue to vandalize but couldn’t find one and settled for the Islamic Center instead.
re: #244 Charmingly Persistent
Wow, I am really sad and discouraged that the attitude of so many here is that women need not apply. It really drains my motivation and excitement.
???????
I’m with Warren.
I happen to think Kamala Harris would make a great President.
re: #246 TedStriker
Whaaaa???
Who is saying this? Qualified is qualified, no matter who it is.
Right now, Qualification Prime is electability.
re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg
I happen to think Kamala Harris would make a great President.
Make or do not make. There is no “would”.
Yahoo has a bumper crop of stupid bigot stories today.
Woman tells Spanish-speaking Mexican restaurant employees: ‘Get the f*** out of my country’
For every bigot who gets embarrassed in a viral video, though, there are thousands more out there doing their bigot thing all day, every day.
re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg
She really would, but I do not believe the country as a whole would vote for her. It would be a pleasant surprise if they did.
NYT: Acting Att Gen Whitaker maybe have perjured himself before a US House committee by claiming Trump never tried to pressure him over the Russia probe. https://t.co/uChQKQOXz9
— John Aravosis 🇺🇸 (@aravosis) February 19, 2019
re: #254 plansbandc
She really would, but I do not believe the country as a whole would vote for her. It would be a pleasant surprise if they did.
There’s a big difference between what you and I are saying and what people are reading and thinking we’re saying.
I’m finding that enormously frustrating.
re: #251 Decatur Deb
Right now, Qualification Prime is electability.
Screw that. Electability is unknown, based on factors that aren’t often judged correctly even by experts. Second guessing is a fools game.
re: #257 gwangung
Screw that. Electability is unknown, based on factors that aren’t often judged correctly even by experts. Second guessing is a fools game.
We have about 14 months to get really good at solving that puzzle. In the meanwhile it would be good not to cripple the eventual nominee.
re: #251 Decatur Deb
Right now, Qualification Prime is electability.
I’m not naive, I know that pragmatism has to come into play in all of this, but if we let the knuckledraggers, the GOP, and the media dictate (again) that men, by default, are more qualified to be President, then we’ve already lost.
Whoever in the Dem lineup survives through the primary process to the general is gonna have an uphill battle precisely because of the GOP, the Russian dirty tricks machine, and our own sniveling media, but if it’s Harris or Klobuchar or Warren or another Dem woman that hasn’t declared yet, they’ll have to work twice as hard; at that point, we have to be prepared to go all-in and then some for them, because we can’t let what happened to Hillary happen again.
Grabbed this image from a local reporters FB page.
Good, hard working people in Detroit.
The reference is the new Gordie Howe International Bridge between Detroit, Mi and Windsor, Ont. And yes Canada is paying for it.#Resist #Resistance #TheResistance pic.twitter.com/izIvHqjgcP— Frank Vaslo (@nonameinmich) February 20, 2019
re: #228 danarchy
I reject your metaphor. Donald Trump is in no way the New England Patriots of anything…
Trump is, and always will be, the 2017 Cleveland Browns.
re: #251 Decatur Deb
Right now, Qualification Prime is electability.
lt’s not clear what characteristics mean electability. Let’s look at Trump in 2016: he violated every rule that politicians typically follow, demonstrated widespread ignorance of issues, praised Putin, displayed a temperament that was unfit for any office, lied about everything, and yet he managed to get elected President. Of course, it does give you an advantage if the media is on your side paying slavish obeisance to every word and every demand, and either ignoring your opponents or criticizing every step they take. So what should a Democrat do? How do you show that Trump is a dangerous treasonous empty suit and make people believe it or care about it?
2018 showed some hope — but the Republicans still held the Senate and gained seats. And the infiltration of the judiciary continues apace.
re: #263 Decatur Deb
The Black Sox went to a World Series, tho.
re: #264 Ace Rothstein
The Black Sox went to a World Series, tho.
And got banned for life for their trouble.
re: #264 Ace Rothstein
The Black Sox went to a World Series, tho.
And they were actually the better team: corrupt but they understood the game.
re: #232 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
And this is not a hoax.
re: #256 MsJ
Me too. I will happily support whichever Dem candidate wins the nomination, but I do not think the country, as a whole will elect a woman President.
Is this entitled little bitch growing up to become POTUS in 2052 or just a SCOTUS justice?
Nicholas Sandmann, a teen videotaped in an incident involving Native American activist Nathan Phillips, sued the Washington Post for $250 million, claiming the paper ‘vilified’ him because he is white https://t.co/oSYEadGPDc pic.twitter.com/n8K1bAJ0Cp
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) February 20, 2019
re: #268 plansbandc
Me too. I will happily support whichever Dem candidate wins the nomination, but I do not think the country, as a whole will elect a woman President.
Is be more positive if we didn’t have to win both the popular vote and the Electoral College. That’s what we have to be able to get around. I absolutely think a woman can (and already did) win the popular vote.
re: #269 The Vicious Babushka
Is this entitled little bitch growing up to become POTUS in 2052 or just a SCOTUS justice?
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re: #269 The Vicious Babushka
No, it showed him arrogantly staring down an elderly Native American man while his fellow students mocked Indian culture with whooping and mock chops. What a jerk. I hope the Post doesn’t settle this.
re: #270 MsJ
Yes, Hillary won the popular vote. If we at some point get rid of the Electoral College, that would be a game changer.
re: #272 Patricia Kayden
I hope they counter sue.
re: #269 The Vicious Babushka
Is this entitled little bitch growing up to become POTUS in 2052 or just a SCOTUS justice?
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He has forfeited any grounds for sympathy. His family is clearly trash. I wonder if this suit is tied to the Clarence Thomas position that the press should be subordinate to Trump?
Well, what’s the point of saying a woman can’t be elected other than to say don’t vote for one in the primary? Should we avoid minorities too? Jews? Non-straights?
Let me just say that there is no “safe.” Joe Biden? Tried twice before and got nowhere. Plagiarist, Anita Hill betrayer, gaffe machine, and D-MBNA. And 100 years old. I think the best chance to lose would be to nominate someone like that.
re: #269 The Vicious Babushka
Washington Post statement: “We are reviewing a copy of the lawsuit and we plan to mount a vigorous defense.” https://t.co/QJk72RtKqq
— Julia Arciga (@JuliaArciga) February 19, 2019
re: #275 Hecuba’s daughter
He has forfeited any grounds for sympathy. His family is clearly trash. I wonder if this suit is tied to the Clarence Thomas position that the press should be subordinate to Trump?
This whole Covington brouhaha has a stink of stagery about it.
Fuck me.
This is wild.
Kamala first 24 hours: $1.5 million
Klobuchar first 48 hours $1 million
Warren first 24 hours: $300K
Bernie first 12 hours: $3.3 million https://t.co/CRogI2lrxo— jordan (@JordanUhl) February 19, 2019
re: #276 Charmingly Persistent
Well, what’s the point of saying a woman can’t be elected other than to say don’t vote for one in the primary? Should we avoid minorities too? Jews? Non-straights?
Let me just say that there is no “safe.” Joe Biden? Tried twice before and got nowhere. Plagiarist, Anita Hill betrayer, gaffe machine, and D-MBNA. And 100 years old. I think the best chance to lose would be to nominate someone like that.
Yeah. Go with what absolutely no one is saying.
re: #280 MsJ
Yeah. Go with what absolutely no one is saying.
Then tell me: why do you keep bringing up your opinion that a woman can’t be elected? What is the point? Because you do it a lot. The only reason I can see is to urge people not to vote for one in the primary.
re: #279 MsJ
Fuck me.
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People like Bernie. I don’t. You don’t. May lizards don’t. If we want Bernie not to be the nominee, we need to argue for those we like. I brought up today how I liked Beto’s work on immigration and the drug was and contrasted that with Bernie.
Of course.
2. Brookfield bailed out the Kushners
Brookfield also recently bought Westinghouse, the bankrupt nuclear company in the plan to build 40 nuclear reactors in Saudi Arabia
Jared could help make it happen
I’ll have more in my newsletter
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re: #283 MsJ
666 5th Avenue. How appropriate.
Weirdness in Lubbock.
Medical examiner accuses commissioner of official oppression - commissioner responds
On Monday, everythinglubbock.com acquired a copy of a memo from Lubbock Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Sam Andrews in which he accused County Commissioner Jason Corley of interfering with his office.
The memo was written on January 30 to the county judge, and Corley made a written response on Monday.
The office of medical examiner was made the subject of a Texas Rangers investigation this month, and prosecutors last week disclosed information to local defense attorneys about the credibility of Dr. Andrews. Specifically, in a trial in Austin, Andrews testimony came into question and a murder charge was dropped.
In the memo, Andrews said, “For several weeks, I have been subject to ongoing and worsening harassment and abuse by new County Commissioner Mr. Jason Corley (Precinct #2).”
“He has also spread patently false and disgusting rumors such as I have been cutting off the fingers of dead children, performing illegal research, or selling body parts,” Andrews wrote.
Lubbock has a history of problems with medical examiners. Back in the 80s, the body of a homeless man was found in a dumpster downtown. A suspect was arrested and admitted to dumping the body but added, “I don’t know anything about that bullet in his head though!” The police did not know about a gunshot. They rushed to check. Alas, they couldn’t because the ME had removed and then LOST the victim’s head. The ME was also found to be keeping various body parts in his kitchen refrigerator at home. I have to be buried in Lubbock, since that’s where my wife is, but I am going to make every effort to avoid dying there.
re: #279 MsJ
Fuck me.
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I think the rest of the candidates need to make tax returns an issue, as well as challenging him on his actual record.
re: #281 Charmingly Persistent
Then tell me: why do you keep bringing up your opinion that a woman can’t be elected? What is the point? Because you do it a lot. The only reason I can see is to urge people not to vote for one in the primary.
Because that’s what I think. It was in response to prior comments not just something I puked up in a thread for no good reason.
I’m likely going to vote for a woman in the primary and in the general.
But I also think it’s something we should keep in mind and be aware of.
And I’m sorry you’re reading shit into my comments that do not exist.
re: #286 Belafon
I think the rest of the candidates need to make tax returns an issue, as well as challenging him on his actual record.
They certainly do especially since Clinton was the only one who had her ethics made an issue in the primary. Pressure him. Ask him why Steve King praised him on immigration. Ask him why his harsh words for corporations have never been at firearm manufacturers. Ask him why he’s cavalier about dismissing racism if it’s done by white working clsss people. Go at Bernie from the left.
There’s something fucked up to me about Berners using Pelosi to tell off people who are worried about Bernie’s age.
This is a piece that points out that “according to a report from NBC News in early January,” Rod Rosenstein planned on stepping down after Robert Mueller finished his report. If that is so, then he is expecting the Mueller report in about a month.
re: #290 retired cynic
This is a piece that points out that “according to a report from NBC News in early January,” Rod Rosenstein planned on stepping down after Robert Mueller finished his report. If that is so, then he is expecting the Mueller report in about a month.
Or he knows he’s going to get shit canned.
re: #287 MsJ
Nancy LeTourneau looks at it from the other way ‘round: Are Americans Ready to Elect Another Man as President?
re: #292 retired cynic
Nancy LeTourneau looks at it from the other way ‘round: Are Americans Ready to Elect Another Man as President?
I like Nancy but her article doesn’t support her headline.
It’s an intriguing question. Democrats, yes. Independents, maybe. Republicans, no. (Cavaet, they would if the woman was an absolute c**t like Sarah Palin…pretty, nasty and vapid. Republicans love that shit.)
re: #293 MsJ
I like Nancy but her article doesn’t support her headline.
It’s an intriguing question. Democrats, yes. Independents, maybe. Republicans, no. (Cavaet, they would if the woman was an absolute c**t like Sarah Palin…pretty, nasty and vapid. Republicans love that shit.)
But Republicans wouldn’t vote for any Democrat, male or female. If Democrats and Independents do, that’s a majority.
re: #294 retired cynic
But Republicans wouldn’t vote for any Democrat, male or female. If Democrats and Independents do, that’s a majority.
There I disagree. “Conservatives” or whateverthefuckyouwanttocallthosemorons won’t, but some Republicans (The Never Trumpers) could and hopefully will.
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