Seth Meyers: Trump’s Sole Strength Is Chaos [VIDEO]
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Seth takes a closer look at President Trump’s desperation to get involved in the 2020 Democratic primary.
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I’m sorry, did he not know that his taxes would be a question asked? HE. HASN’T. RELEASED. HIS. TAXES. Same as Trump. I dont want a left leaning Trump, I don’t want Trump. I want a competent person in the WH who isn’t bought by big money or a foreign government. We need receipts.
— CongoJack (@Capt_CongoJack) February 26, 2019
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Dude.
Another update: Brock has offered additional answers as to why he continued the AMA after criticism began, as well as provided further information on one of his AMA responses.https://t.co/qYB5kpConY
— GamesIndustry (@GIBiz) February 26, 2019
re: #1 CongoJack
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Waaah it’s so hard for Bernie. Bernie I see also threw his wife under the bus with the taxes. Another reason why he doesn’t respect women.
re: #3 goddamnedfrank
Dude.
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4chan actually has a useful and interesting gaming center. Their Warhammer Bretonnia tactics page is definitive.
Never been to 8chan….don’t plan on going.
Does mean there’s no campaign plan, or that there is one but Bernie isn’t following it? https://t.co/sG02Ocr9yD
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) February 26, 2019
The comments at YouTube for this Seth Meyers video are full of Bernie fans complaining that Seth is making fun of their idol.
In more news that news only to racist white people…
Um, so are most black Americans thanks to rape of the enslaved. When you trace the male DNA of black Americans, one out of four times you get a European. So, next. https://t.co/jnNlwPDYDr
— Ida Bae Wells (@nhannahjones) February 26, 2019
re: #8 gwangung
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“Admitted?” Like your ancestors’ behavior is your responsibility?
So the entire fuck what?
Dozens of countries around the World have used the US Constitution as a model for structuring their own governments. Yet every single one of them chose to reject the patently anti-democratic Electoral College.— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) February 26, 2019
re: #11 goddamnedfrank
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Determined entirely by the majority of the population? How shocking!
(yeah, I know, protecting the rights of the minority and all that.)
re: #12 calochortus
Determined entirely by the majority of the population? How shocking!
(yeah, I know, protecting the rights of the minority and all that.)
Ygelsias was being sarcastic, but in my defense he’s also a gigantic asshole, enamored with his own “cleverness.”
re: #10 lawhawk
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- guy’s Boss Hogg.
When you’re to stupid to get the Dukes of Hazzard.
re: #11 goddamnedfrank
The EC was a vestige of the founding of the nation where a significant portion of the population was enslaved. It doesn’t serve a purpose to elect a president via direct elections, which is how every other elected position is elected (governors, mayors, senators, congressmembers, etc.)
Direct elections work everywhere else, but not for the president? Yeah, that’s not a solid argument in favor of the EC.
re: #7 Charles Johnson
The comments at YouTube for this Seth Meyers video are full of Bernie fans complaining that Seth is making fun of their idol.
He shouldn’t be off limits. Man the Trump analogies continue.
re: #11 goddamnedfrank
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You missed the sarcasm. Texas cities most certainly do NOT control statewide Texas elections.
Twitter needs a dudebro/sarcasm font.
re: #2 lawhawk
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re: #11 goddamnedfrank
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Hard to argue. It’s not our fault we do our best in densely populated areas. Dennis’s vote in Dallas should count as much as Robert’s in Rural area. One man, one vote.
re: #17 Scottish Dragon
You missed the sarcasm. Texas cities most certainly do NOT control statewide Texas elections.
Twitter needs a dudebro/sarcasm font.
Ah ha true.
re: #8 gwangung
In more news that news only to racist white people…
Wait until Chuck hears about Sally Hennings.
Who needs gymnastics to stretch the alt-reality and fact-free existence of Trumpworld? Yeah, that’s another winning pick for Trump. Incompetent and unqualified for the positions picked.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 26, 2019
Man. These right wing “gotchas” have reached the point of utter absurdity. BLUNT FORCE TRUTH lol.
Can anyone explain what the “scandal” is supposed to be here? I don’t get it. https://t.co/cZr5Lp3vat— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 26, 2019
Also, too, what kind of swivel-eyed crackpot thinks “BLUNT FORCE TRUTH” is a good name for a website?
Their motto: “We beat you to a bloody pulp with the truth.”— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 26, 2019
re: #8 gwangung
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Uh yeah. That’s not exactly uncommon for African Americans.
Just got one of those calls to action from Gabby Giffords. Background check vote is coming up, so call your rep.
re: #22 lawhawk
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I want the US Women’s Gymnastics Magnificent 7 team from the Atlanta Games to run the State Department now.
re: #23 Charles Johnson
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She’s a Ni*clang!* married to a white guy and she has white blood mixed with Ni*clang!* blood in her history!
Things white supremacists think about:
DNA tests to prove their virtue and purity - except the vast majority of folks end up revealing that they’re mutts. They have DNA tests that show that they’re not as white as they think they are. When posting to their racist sites that they were taking DNA tests and then asked for the results - the outcomes are rather funny as they’re outed by their DNA as the bigoted dumbasses we know they are. And the purity ponies force ‘em out because they’re not racist enough (eugenics never went away).
DNA tests to prove that African Americans aren’t entitled to anything because they have DNA from Europeans - ignoring that white slave owners raped enslaved women, seeing them as disposable playthings for their amusement. The children of those sex crimes would of course carry European genes in their DNA.
What brings both of these together is that the bigot brigade thinks that DNA can help value signal their bigotry and deprive others of their rights because they aren’t who they say they are.
Chuck Wollery who’s an ignorantass, white supremacist douchebag.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) February 26, 2019
A lot of black Americans have that. Harris’s direct line after her slaveownimg great whatever grandfather no doubt faced discrimination. This is really stupid.
A high percentage of Texas RWNJs are descended from local fundy preachers and football coaches. I believe we have had generations of inadvertent inbreeding, since a small town or fundy suburban couple can easily fall in love and get married without knowing that they are biological half-siblings.
No one could ever have predicted this. By which I mean, everyone could have predicted this. https://t.co/YeuvFrQasi
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 26, 2019
Cool family note but my second cousin pointed out I resemble one of my other second cousins. Pretty cool because I saw it immediately in our faces and eyes.
re: #15 lawhawk
The EC was a vestige of the founding of the nation where a significant portion of the population was enslaved. It doesn’t serve a purpose to elect a president via direct elections, which is how every other elected position is elected (governors, mayors, senators, congressmembers, etc.)
Direct elections work everywhere else, but not for the president? Yeah, that’s not a solid argument in favor of the EC.
Hey! What did I do?
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re: #23 Charles Johnson
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It obviously means that Harris is a racist and can’t possibly have policy that address the concerns of PoC.
re: #41 Mike Lamb
It obviously means that Harris is a racist and can’t possibly have policy that address the concerns of PoC.
It is so fucking stupid.
Just arrived in Vietnam. Thank you to all of the people for the great reception in Hanoi. Tremendous crowds, and so much love!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 26, 2019
tremendous crowds!
so much love!
barf
re: #11 goddamnedfrank
Without the Electoral College, presidential campaigns would be dominated entirely by a handful of big cities like how statewide elections in Texas are determined entirely by the preferences of Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio.
as opposed to the way they and the senate are dominated now?
re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m not sure he wrote that one. There’s no random capitalization.
re: #46 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m not sure he wrote that one. There’s no random capitalization.
Good catch.
re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth
tremendous crowds!
so much love!barf
He really loves crowds, or at least, crowds that come out, voluntarily or not, on his behalf.
Klobuchar was asked about guns. Harris was asked about guns. Even Schultz was asked about guns. But the one candidate with a mixed track record on the issue of gun safety wasn’t asked about guns. 😒#sanderstownhall https://t.co/l4UAS7bZ77
— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) February 26, 2019
Wow. Bernie just dissed the young woman asking about his staff sexual harassment scandal. Now he’s screaming at her. This is truly ugly.
— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) February 26, 2019
For plenty more regarding Sanders’ town hall, and how obvious it is Anne Laurie doesn’t want him to run, see balloon-juice.com.
re: #49 Belafon
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For plenty more regarding Sanders’ town hall, and how obvious it is Anne Laurie doesn’t want him to run, see balloon-juice.com.
He’s a jerk. He just is. I’m sorry that a lot of lefties refuse to see it but Bernie is a jerk.
re: #45 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
as opposed to the way they and the senate are dominated now?
Boy, I wish elections here in Texas were dominated by the big cities. We’d be a liberal bastion. Gerrymandering has ensured that the cities have far less clout than they should.
re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth
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tremendous crowds!
so much love!barf
comedian kevin pollack had a bit when you walk onto a used car lot you can just fell the love
it’s either love or bullshit. no, it’s probably bullshit….
(it’s funnier when he does it)
re: #50 HappyWarrior
He’s a jerk. He just is. I’m sorry that a lot of lefties refuse to see it but Bernie is a jerk.
he does not have the temperament for this
to be confronted, told no, or that he’s wrong
A play in two acts pic.twitter.com/fVFRoafSp3
— Nathan McDermott (@natemcdermott) February 26, 2019
re: #55 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
he does not have the temperament for this
to be confronted, told no, or that he’s wrong
He doesn’t.
Aw man, he was one of my favorite inadvertently hilarious right wing goons. https://t.co/IbmB3ojqR3
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 26, 2019
It’s sheer perfection that he did this to himself by bragging to USA Today about all the bots he was going to create. [chef’s kiss]
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 26, 2019
re: #56 lawhawk
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I am actually surprised that Twitter or Facebook would take action on this, even if his interview with USA Today merited it.
This is textbook witness tampering. See subsection (b): https://t.co/kws4oIYUu2 https://t.co/xOnHbiaB6S
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 26, 2019
This is textbook witness tampering. See subsection (b): https://t.co/kws4oIYUu2 https://t.co/xOnHbiaB6S
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 26, 2019
re: #61 lawhawk
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Betcha the people who claimed AOC was doing that to Trump Jr will be a okay with this. Gaetz is a scumbag. Too bad his constituents would vote for a raccoon wearing a swastika before they would a Democrat.
Matt Gaetz last week
Vs
Matt Gaetz today. pic.twitter.com/YyrXwmVByD— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) February 26, 2019
re: #56 lawhawk
Or that I (and many others) reported the shit out of every one of his MN tweets (and the people who responded or popped up in his TL that were equally inflammatory and inciting).
So, does anyone know what Jwohl did to get suspended from Twitter. I don’t really care, but I think it’s funny he and Loomer are hanging out together now with their combined ZERO active accounts.
Derek is really dumb, isn’t he?
Sleeping with Black women (or attempting to do so) doesn’t mean that you’re not racist. Sigh.
*stares in founding fathers*
*side eyes in Sally Hemmings*
*squints in Strom Thurmond*https://t.co/75bL6EouZt— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) February 26, 2019
re: #67 Patricia Kayden
Derek is really dumb, isn’t he?
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That really is a dumb fucking take even for a wingnut but it’s exactly the take I knew one of them would when this broke.
re: #56 lawhawk
Well, THAT will certainly do the trick. I wonder if he’s going to be as good as rage furby at creating sock-puppets.
Witness intimidation is a crime, asshole. pic.twitter.com/NaRUh2hlSh
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 26, 2019
re: #66 darthstar
So, does anyone know what Jwohl did to get suspended from Twitter. I don’t really care, but I think it’s funny he and Loomer are hanging out together now with their combined ZERO active accounts.
Maybe they can handcuff themselves to each other in protest???
So… what happens next here? I mean, I presume the Congressman says within the hour that his twitter account was hacked by a hostile actor trying to get him arrested. But then what?
— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) February 26, 2019
re: #72 Jay C
Maybe they can handcuff themselves to each other in protest???
I just hope they do it on a public beach at low tide.
re: #73 jaunte
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No idea. Gaetz is an idiot. Pelosi should look into getting his ass expelled.
I think Devin’s more worried about the impending Nunes investigation.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 26, 2019
re: #61 lawhawk
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Holy shit…I mean…holy shit. It’s not just witness tampering…it’s basically blackmail.
re: #77 Mike Lamb
Holy shit…I mean…holy shit. It’s not just witness tampering…it’s basically blackmail.
Stupid blackmail. Did it right in the open. Maybe if Gaetz actually studied the law instead of trying to be the Congressman competing with Hannity to keep Trump’s balls in his mouth, he’d know that.
Gaetz is making a strong move for the Gohmert crown.
re: #79 jaunte
Gaetz is making a strong move for the Gohmert crown.
I don’t even think Gohmert is this dumb.
re: #59 Charles Johnson
[Aw man, he was one of my favorite inadvertently hilarious right wing goons.]
Lots more where that one came from. Degrees of hilarity may vary.
Meanwhile…. Democrats couldn’t get their act together here:
A House Natural Resources subcommittee held a hearing on climate change (its first hearing of the year) — and Republicans successfully forced a motion to adjourn cuz not enough Dems showed up.Talk about growing pains for the new majority!
— Melanie Zanona (@MZanona) February 26, 2019
Ugh.
But they’re about to unveil Medicare for All with a 2-year phase in that has 100 cosponsors in the House:
Great scoop by the legend @JStein_WaPo: House Dems about to unveil new Medicare for All bill, and the phase-in time has shrunk from four years to two years. https://t.co/rLwja7r5mF
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) February 26, 2019
re: #78 HappyWarrior
Stupid blackmail. Did it right in the open. Maybe if Gaetz actually studied the law instead of trying to be the Congressman competing with Hannity to keep Trump’s balls in his mouth, he’d know that.
taking lessons from that Wohl numbnutz?
re: #82 lawhawk
Meanwhile…. Democrats couldn’t get their act together here:
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Ugh.
WTF guys. If you want to push ambitious stuff like the Green New Deal, then show up because not showing up gives plenty of ammo to those who think we can sit on our asses on climate change.
re: #83 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
taking lessons from that Wohl numbnutz?
Didn’t Gaetz have CCJ as a SOTU guest last year?
re: #75 HappyWarrior
No idea. Gaetz is an idiot. Pelosi should look into getting his ass expelled.
This little girl was smart though. :)
re: #86 darthstar
Note that the various obstruction of justice statutes all require proof of specific intent (through, for instance, the “corruptly” language), so if @mattgaetz is drunk again he may have a defense.
— EmergenHat (@Popehat) February 26, 2019
UPDATE:
Me: Any response to those who say you’re witness tampering? @mattgaetz: I’m witness testing. We still are allowed to test the veracity and character of witnesses, I think.
Me: So you disagree with those who say you’re witness tampering?
Gaetz: Yes. https://t.co/aBRZAF314A— Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox) February 26, 2019
re: #82 lawhawk
Meanwhile…. Democrats couldn’t get their act together here:
Is there a reason they all couldn’t show up?
re: #88 Belafon
Yeah, he’s witness tampering. And testing his limited intellect. Because he’s going to be revealed as a Trump buffoon who doesn’t get how the rule of law operates.
Michael Cohen will come before the @OversightDems & @HouseIntel Committees next week. Congress has an independent duty under the Constitution to conduct oversight of the Executive Branch, and any efforts to intimidate family members or pressure witnesses will not be tolerated. https://t.co/VDc6zE6lwH
— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) February 21, 2019
Did you party know about these supposed girlfriends when y’all made Michael the Finance co-chair? So much for that “pro family” moniker… https://t.co/8XFGEwCTsq
— Khary Penebaker, Fx (@kharyp) February 26, 2019
re: #8 gwangung
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re: #88 Belafon
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So Gaetz is going to talk about Cohen’s alleged mistresses. Gym Jordan will be hopped up on rage-a-hol. Lovely. Will Meadows be part of this shit show?
I’m waiting for fucking asshole Matt Gaetz to come up with his lame excuse for someone taking over his phone and putting out that hit tweet to rattle Michael Cohen.
I hope to see this fucker arrested for threatening.
Gah. Dealing with a Trump apologist who thinks linking to what the WH claims are Trump’s “accomplishments” is a serious form of conversation. I’m too old for this shit man.
A cesspool of hatred? Srsly?
Your TL is a cesspool of hatred. It’s really sad because most Bernie supporters have moved on from the infighting of 2016 and are working hard to support their candidate. You folks will cause us to lose to Trump with all this division.
— Penny Lane 💫 (@mizpennylane20) February 26, 2019
re: #94 Mike Lamb
So Gaetz is going to talk about Cohen’s alleged mistresses. Gym Jordan will be hopped up on rage-a-hol. Lovely. Will Meadows be part of this shit show?
Looking at Gratz website I don’t think he sits on either committee
re: #95 ObserverArt
I’m waiting for fucking asshole Matt Gaetz to come up with his lame excuse for someone taking over his phone and putting out that hit tweet to rattle Michael Cohen.
I hope to see this fucker arrested for threatening.
Arrested. Kicked out of Congress.
re: #95 ObserverArt
I’m waiting for fucking asshole Matt Gaetz to come up with his lame excuse for someone taking over his phone and putting out that hit tweet to rattle Michael Cohen.
I hope to see this fucker arrested for threatening.
Witness tampering is the new Both Sides! Everyone Does It It’s Not A Crime It’s Just A Process Crime What About Her Emails.
re: #63 HappyWarrior
Betcha the people who claimed AOC was doing that to Trump Jr will be a okay with this. Gaetz is a scumbag. Too bad his constituents would vote for a raccoon wearing a swastika before they would a Democrat.
Hell, the raccoon wearing a swastika has more morals and class than Gaetz.
re: #97 Charles Johnson
A cesspool of hatred? Srsly?
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re: #101 ObserverArt
Hell, the raccoon wearing a swastika has more morals and class than Gaetz.
I’ll give you that it wouldn’t threaten Cohen but that’s only because it’s dead and it’s a raccoon :).
re: #100 Sir John Barron
Witness tampering is the new Both Sides! Everyone Does It It’s Not A Crime It’s Just A Process Crime What About Her Emails.
Rudy: Witness threatening really isn’t a crime.
I talked to Matt Gaetz about his tweet to Michael Cohen suggesting his wife will leave him when he goes to jail
“This is what it looks like to compete in the marketplace of ideas,” he said. https://t.co/r3nyUwDtdG— Sam Stein (@samstein) February 26, 2019
It’s true. I do dislike Bernie Sanders. Don’t think I really hate him but yeah I dislike him. Why shouldn’t I dislike guy who disparages people who want to come here for a better life as mere “cheap labor” that are stealing American jobs. He should know goddamn better than to talk that way.
re: #105 jaunte
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Uh no, Matt, it’s threatening but maybe actually learn the fucking law. You’re an embarrassment.
re: #105 jaunte
It’s the new Hey We’re Just Asking Questions
re: #91 lawhawk
Will not be tolerated and will be punished? Or will they just be ignored? Are there ever any consequences for Republican buffoonery and outrageous conduct? Doesn’t feel like it.
re: #97 Charles Johnson
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You are not a fan of Bernie and something in your timeline says it…so yeah. It’s a cesspool of hatred to a Bernie lover.
And that is what she is. She’s trying hard to play nice she says compared to 2016. But Bernie backer for sure.
re: #97 Charles Johnson
A cesspool of hatred? Srsly?
[‘Berny Lane’ You folks will cause us to lose to Trump with all this division.]
Backwards projection with a twist.
re: #97 Charles Johnson
Most supporters have moved on from the infighting of 2016? Moved on to what? To viciously attacking and smearing Democratic candidates to clear the field for Bernie? Please! You should ask her if she’ll support whichever candidate wins the primaries should Bernie lose. That’s how we’ll see if they’ve moved on from infighting.
re: #112 ObserverArt
You are not a fan of Bernie and something in your timeline says it…so yeah. It’s a cesspool of hatred to a Bernie lover.
And that is what she is. She’s trying hard to play nice she says compared to 2016. But Bernie backer for sure.
You know, I really did want to give Bernie a chance in 2016. Thought maybe he was too left to be elected President but I thought he could influence the conversation and you know what, I’ll concede, he did do some good things. His influence in 2016 wasn’t all bad but a lot of it was and a lot of it starts with him and himself. He’s like Trump. He gives himself one set of rules and everyone else another.
re: #105 jaunte
Sam Stein ✔
@samstein
I talked to Matt Gaetz about his tweet to Michael Cohen suggesting his wife will leave him when he goes to jail“This is what it looks like to compete in the marketplace of ideas,” he said. thedailybeast.com …
Now that is some epic bullshit there.
It needs to be nominated for the bullshitters hall of fame.
What a fucking clown. But we knew that. What is unknown is how much of a clown he can be. Today sets a new standard. He’ll go lower…I have faith in him.
Actually, I like to think of it as a cesspool of love. pic.twitter.com/i37Y9You5p
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 26, 2019
I would love for Bernie to release his tax records.
re: #114 Patricia Kayden
Most supporters have moved on from the infighting of 2016? Moved on to what? To viciously attacking and smearing Democratic candidates to clear the field for Bernie? Please! You should ask her if she’ll support whichever candidate wins the primaries should Bernie lose. That’s how we’ll see if they’ve moved on from infighting.
I guess she missed the trashing of Beto by Bernie surrogates too. Or the crap spread about how Harris “slept her way to the top.”
re: #118 jaunte
I would love for Bernie to release his tax records.
He won’t. His opponents need to be on him about that though. Keep it on.
re: #120 HappyWarrior
Trying to stay with the love theme!
Man, Gaetz is really gunning to be the No. 1 pick in the Asshole Draft.
I know you’ve all been losing sleep wonder what Klys and Danger do next.
Here it is:
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Stay tuned.
re: #120 HappyWarrior
WATCH: Bernie gets defensive about his tax returns, says they are still not ready to be released (years later), and denies there was ever any criticism of him for not releasing releasing them, which is false. pic.twitter.com/iP8kfX54QM
— Kaivan Shroff (@KaivanShroff) February 26, 2019
re: #124 Patricia Kayden
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That is such a load of shit. He just made a Republican opps researcher’s day though. I’m not sure what bothers me more. The fact that he obviously wasn’t prepared for it even THOUGH it was an issue three years ago or the fact he threw his wife under the bus. Either way, I don’t like this guy and I’m tired of being told that if I don’t like him, I’m a neo-lib sell out to big business.
re: #97 Charles Johnson
A cesspool of hatred? Srsly?
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Those of us in reality who aren’t treating Sanders, a man with few actual accomplishments in Congress over decades and who seems, at the very least, indifferent to non-WWC, like Moses coming down from Mt. Sinai isn’t “hatred”, it’s valid criticism of a man who wants to be POTUS.
— TedStriker (@talon_262) February 26, 2019
Man with alleged ties to white supremacist groups arrested in Houston on weapons charges https://t.co/qlIU3SveAX
— St. John Barned-Smith ⚔️ (@stjbs) February 26, 2019
Local terrorist-in-waiting arrested.
re: #126 TedStriker
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Bernie by far has the most extensive elected experience of anyone running yet I’m really hard pressed to think of an accomplishment.
re: #123 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
I know you’ve all been losing sleep wonder what Klys and Danger do next.
Here it is:
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Stay tuned.
You’re crazy. Ain’t no way to tune that thing.
re: #117 Charles Johnson
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Come on in, the Sodium hydroxide feels especially fine today.
I’m sorry but Bernie’s voting record really isn’t an accomplishment. It’s laudable when it is laudable but I want to know how Bernie. a man who was first elected to Congress in 1990 has been able to advance his causes and I don’t want to hear about how the system is rigged against him. That’s bullshit. Barney Frank and Ted Kennedy were just as ideologically to the left as Bernie is and yet had plenty of accomplishments.
Freedom Caucus hits the beach in the Battle of Cohen Girlfriend pic.twitter.com/I8Np3EgxDo
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 26, 2019
re: #128 HappyWarrior
Bernie by far has the most extensive elected experience of anyone running yet I’m really hard pressed to think of an accomplishment.
Let’s face it…Bernie has pretty much been a Dem backbencher his whole tenure in the Senate, because he really hasn’t got shit to his name there. But, once he decided to run for POTUS last time and build his public profile up (and got a bunch of adoring fans, most of whom seems to be white and middle-class), his ego got hooked on it.
That’s why he’s doing it again, for the ego boost; he (and the Bros) also seems to be hoping that Trump so completely craters the country, he can sweep ahead of the growing Dem 2020 pack as the Socialist Savior (and, frankly, that’s what I think the plan for them in 2016 was all along). There’s too much of an intersection between Bernie’s 2016 campaign and the Russian interference to be a coincidence and I fear there will be more of the same for next year.
I don’t trust Bernie, his campaign, or the Bros at all.
re: #134 TedStriker
Let’s face it…Bernie has pretty much been a Dem backbencher his whole tenure in the Senate, because he really hasn’t got shit to his name there. But, once he decided to run for POTUS last time and build his public profile up (and got a bunch of adoring fans, most of whom seems to be white and middle-class), his ego got hooked on it.
That’s why he’s doing it again, for the ego boost; he (and the Bros) also seems to be hoping that Trump so completely craters the country, he can sweep ahead of the growing Dem 2020 pack as the Socialist Savior (and, frankly, that’s what I think the plan for them in 2016 was all along). There’s too much of an intersection between Bernie’s 2016 campaign and the Russian interference to be a coincidence and I fear there will be more of the same for next year.
I really think you’re right. I think the praise got to his head.
“my fucking turn” pic.twitter.com/1JGePS6S0d
— Paul Bronks (@SlenderSherbet) February 26, 2019
re: #134 TedStriker
Let’s face it…Bernie has pretty much been a Dem backbencher his whole tenure in the Senate, because he really hasn’t got shit to his name there. But, once he decided to run for POTUS last time and build his public profile up (and got a bunch of adoring fans, most of whom seems to be white and middle-class), his ego got hooked on it.
That’s why he’s doing it again, for the ego boost; he (and the Bros) also seems to be hoping that Trump so completely craters the country, he can sweep ahead of the growing Dem 2020 pack as the Socialist Savior (and, frankly, that’s what I think the plan for them in 2016 was all along). There’s too much of an intersection between Bernie’s 2016 campaign and the Russian interference to be a coincidence and I fear there will be more of the same for next year.
I don’t trust Bernie, his campaign, or the Bros at all.
Top and Centre WaPo online
Where are the Obamas?’: Paintings of Barack and Michelle brought a million more people to Portrait Gallery.
One of my colleagues, a duly elected member of Congress, has taken to twitter to intimidate a witness. This is grossly unethical and probably illegal (18 USC § 1512(b)).
House Ethics must investigate this disgrace and stain on our institution. https://t.co/MLEsqkarfC— Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) February 26, 2019
re: #139 jaunte
They really don’t care any more - the law is for democrats to follow and republicans to ignore
re: #126 TedStriker
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criticism is neither hatred or bias
resorting to an ad hom ‘cesspool of hatred’ is an even lazier way of saying “i got nothin”
If you want a thread with actual clips from today’s hearing, this is a good one:https://t.co/h7n2eFb0Ik
— Erik Siegrist (@AntonSirius) February 26, 2019
re: #128 HappyWarrior
Bernie by far has the most extensive elected experience of anyone running yet I’m really hard pressed to think of an accomplishment.
he’s also got a lot of campaign experience and that doesn’t seem to be showing either
re: #144 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
he’s also got a lot of campaign experience and that doesn’t seem to be showing either
His campaign experience seems to most often be: losing when in competitive elections. The only close election he’s won was in 1981 for the mayor’s office in Burlington.
pretty certain that it’s a good bet that Cohen’s wife and father-in-law already know about the girlfriend(s)
re: #126 TedStriker
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“Penny”’s reply back to me:
“Like Moses coming down from Mt Sinai”- prime example of your snark and really uncalled for but hey, you do you
C-Ya at the polls!— Penny Lane 💫 (@mizpennylane20) February 26, 2019
Oh yeah, she’s hip-deep in Bernie’s cult of personality.
re: #137 KGxvi
And Trump is his fifth President. I’m sorry but I’d just like to see some accomplishments. It might be one thing if his temperament was better but it’s awful.
As a person who actually worked for tips & hourly wages in my life, instead of having to learn about it 2nd-hand, I can tell you that most people want to be paid enough to live.
A living wage isn’t a gift, it’s a right. Workers are often paid far less than the value they create. https://t.co/P5FsQuhCTW— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 26, 2019
re: #144 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
he’s also got a lot of campaign experience and that doesn’t seem to be showing either
He hasn’t had a hard fought seat in awhile. Many of the others are from equally blue states but have had hard fought campaigns. Booker when he became Newark’s mayor, Kamala becoming DA, Gillibrand when she was first elected to Congress, etc.
re: #129 wrenchwench
You’re crazy. Ain’t no way to tune that thing.
crazy, obsessed, i dont know what we are.
yep. ‘just’ 4.8 miles more than a marathon. less than an hour, right? oh yeah sure. and in 85 degree heat the whole way - no 6am starts in the dark and cool. they give us 12 hours, though i might surprise myself. who am i kidding. it’ll be a long, slow slog.
i think i can say with a fair bit of confidence i will not ever go over 50k.
yes i said it about the 26 and the dopey.
ultras get into a whole different world of training, prep, and performance. and there tend to be trails and hills. not enjoyable. not my style.
whether i ever do another 50k is a different story. and unlike other people, i dont make those plans before doing the first one! ;-)
re: #140 fern01
They really don’t care any more - the law is for democrats to follow and republicans to ignore
Paul Manafort cares. Michael Cohen cares. Caring can be induced.
re: #131 HappyWarrior
I’m sorry but Bernie’s voting record really isn’t an accomplishment. It’s laudable when it is laudable but I want to know how Bernie. a man who was first elected to Congress in 1990 has been able to advance his causes and I don’t want to hear about how the system is rigged against him. That’s bullshit. Barney Frank and Ted Kennedy were just as ideologically to the left as Bernie is and yet had plenty of accomplishments.
how’s he gonna deal with that as president?
re: #147 TedStriker
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Oh yeah, she’s hip-deep in Bernie’s cult of personality.
Totally ignored your point about his lack of accomplishments. I’d just like to see what Bernie has actually led the way on that has made things better for Vermonters and Americans. I guess that’s too much to ask. They don’t want a President though. They want an ideologue. They want the same thing Trumpers want.
re: #154 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
how’s he gonna deal with that as president?
When he was asked about it last time, he said the people will march. I’m sorry. I consider myself an activist and I’m ready to fight for what I believe in but Bernie needs to learn how to fucking lead.
re: #151 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
crazy, obsessed, i dont know what we are.
yep. ‘just’ 4.8 miles more than a marathon. less than an hour, right? oh yeah sure. and in 85 degree heat the whole way - no 6am starts in the dark and cool. they give us 12 hours, though i might surprise myself. who am i kidding. it’ll be a long, slow slog.
i think i can say with a fair bit of confidence i will not ever go over 50k.
yes i said it about the 26 and the dopey.ultras get into a whole different world of training, prep, and performance. and there tend to be trails and hills. not enjoyable. not my style.
whether i ever do another 50k is a different story. and unlike other people, i dont make those plans before doing the first one! ;-)
We shall see. If we can keep the damn thing tuned.
re: #156 HappyWarrior
When he was asked about it last time, he said the people will march. I’m sorry. I consider myself an activist and I’m ready to fight for what I believe in but Bernie needs to learn how to fucking lead.
WHAT DID THAT FUCKER DO WHEN MERRICK GARLAND WAS IGNORED?????????
Dude is all hat, no cattle….and damn right people are pissed about that.
Is there anything on the Democratic side similar to the old Iowa Straw Poll for Republicans? I’m just wondering if there are any pre-primary events that could see the field narrowed.
re: #159 KGxvi
Not that I know. The Republican Straw Poll was a way to draw attention and raise money. Not sure the Iowa Democratic Party wanted to copy their fellow Iowans.
re: #123 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
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re: #158 gwangung
WHAT DID THAT FUCKER DO WHEN MERRICK GARLAND WAS IGNORED?????????
Dude is all hat, no cattle….and damn right people are pissed about that.
I don’t recall him saying anything about Garland. I guess because Garland couldn’t belch out why we need free college for all, he wasn’t worth fighting for.
Ok, this seems big:
“There is an ecosystem around that that includes crimes that harm people, and for those issues, I do not believe that anybody who hurts another human being or profits off of their exploitation should be free of criminal prosecution,” the California senator said. “But when you’re talking about consenting adults, we should consider that we can’t criminalize consensual behavior.”
Sex workers have long criticized Harris for her role in marginalizing their community by conflating sex work with sex trafficking.
I don’t think I’ve heard anyone outside the libertarian fringes talk about decriminalizing sex work.
re: #128 HappyWarrior
Bernie by far has the most extensive elected experience of anyone running yet I’m really hard pressed to think of an accomplishment.
Having won all those elections having done nothing really to warrant it. That is some kind of an accomplishment.
re: #164 ObserverArt
Having won all those elections having done nothing really to warrant it. That is some kind of an accomplishment.
And for all the crapping he’s done on the Democratic Party, the Vermont Dems have let him run because they correctly realize he’s better than having a Republican there.
re: #11 goddamnedfrank
Yglesias is snarking. Yglesias is almost always snarking.
re: #159 KGxvi
I’ve gotten the sense that in the past few decades the Democratic Party in Iowa has survived by not being too attached to the national party.
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The Farm Bureau calls the shot in Iowa politics, I surmise.
re: #160 freetoken
Not that I know. The Republican Straw Poll was a way to draw attention and raise money. Not sure the Iowa Democratic Party wanted to copy their fellow Iowans.
I know it was mostly a fundraising event. But it did often serve to clarify the race early on. A bad showing there was usually enough to get a couple candidates to drop out, especially in years where there were big fields.
re: #145 KGxvi
His campaign experience seems to most often be: losing when in competitive elections. The only close election he’s won was in 1981 for the mayor’s office in Burlington.
i only meant on the presidential level
he’s run for president
recently
it’s the first time for everyone else ‘officially’ running (i think)
he knows how it works (unless he forgot or didnt learn anything last time)
he’s not showing that he knows
re: #163 KGxvi
Ok, this seems big:
I don’t think I’ve heard anyone outside the libertarian fringes talk about decriminalizing sex work.
You know, I do have some libertarian leanings. I’m sympathetic to the idea of legalizing prostitution. However, I think a lot of legalization proponents in the libertarian community have a lot of naivete too.
American Farm Bureau Federation probably owns more politicians than Big Oil or the NRA.
re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Hey, that is just how my one friends Malamute use to act. A big puppy that was demanding to be up with you, mainly crushing your midsection stretched across your lap.
New from Wall Street Journal:
Cohen to show Congress check signed by the President, reimbursing him for illegal hush money payments made to benefit campaign. Expense was allegedly falsely booked at Trump Organization as legal fees.https://t.co/oZAWmkis9f pic.twitter.com/D94KIcFcrp— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) February 26, 2019
re: #169 wrenchwench
Feminist women have been fighting about it since the 80s. Can’t quote anyone, might have been a local phenomenon.
re: #163 KGxvi
Ok, this seems big:
I don’t think I’ve heard anyone outside the libertarian fringes talk about decriminalizing sex work.
And sex workers, and their union, and me.
I’m trying to convince my libertarian friends who want to legalize sex work to get on board with the union that sex workers have in the UK and Netherlands. But they’re vehemently anti-union too.
I had my hands in a broken sink and couldn’t change the channel, so happened to hear Bernie townhallsplain how Russia is going to be onboard with dumping a petroleum economy and transforming to green energy.
Ooooooook.
50%+ of Russia’s federal budget is from petroleum.— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) February 26, 2019
re: #171 HappyWarrior
You know, I do have some libertarian leanings. I’m sympathetic to the idea of legalizing prostitution. However, I think a lot of legalization proponents in the libertarian community have a lot of naivete too.
Oh, I agree about glibertarian naivete on a whole host of issues. And this is definitely one of those areas.
I’m generally of the opinion that what consenting adults do is up to them. The issue is always coercion and safety. There are definitely legal frameworks that have worked in the past and work in other parts of the world (and even in smaller Nevada counties) today.
re: #176 HappyWarrior
Libertarianism is very much a self-defeating view of life.
It is a reactionary movement.
re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White
Yglesias is snarking. Yglesias is almost always snarking.
His comment is a bit obtuse unless you understand how little influence the big cities here in Texas have influence over state elections.
re: #178 KGxvi
Oh, I agree about glibertarian naivete on a whole host of issues. And this is definitely one of those areas.
I’m generally of the opinion that what consenting adults do is up to them. The issue is always coercion and safety. There are definitely legal frameworks that have worked in the past and work in other parts of the world (and even in smaller Nevada counties) today.
Yeah and it’s really the same thing with drugs too. You get the gilbertarian naivete o those issues. Even one of my friends does but some of hte others I know just think shouting legalize recreational cocaine is a winning issue. And then they without irony look down on AOC for the Green New Deal which I like but I concede is a starting conversation not the final piece.
re: #180 freetoken
Libertarianism is very much a self-defeating view of life.
It is a reactionary movement.
I actually see a lot of similarities between it and dyed in the wool socialists. Not in the actual ideology but how it is approached.
Never do this. pic.twitter.com/MTpIsSgOaM
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 26, 2019
re: #176 HappyWarrior
I’m trying to convince my libertarian friends who want to legalize sex work to get on board with the union that sex workers have in the UK and Netherlands. But they’re vehemently anti-union too.
Yeah, the anti-union stuff is always fun among libertarians. I think a lot of it has to do with the idea that unions often require membership and therefore are “free associations” and I get that on a philosophical level, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense on a practical level.
re: #176 HappyWarrior
I’m trying to convince my libertarian friends who want to legalize sex work to get on board with the union that sex workers have in the UK and Netherlands. But they’re vehemently anti-union too.
Needn’t go that distance:
re: #186 Decatur Deb
Needn’t go that distance:
I wonder how well organized they are though but I had not read about that.
re: #142 Barefoot Grin
That Gaetz tweet has Roger Stone-reek.
It would. All these freedumb caucus assholes are admirers of Stone and other GOP dirty dealers.
Really that is what the entire Republican party is now.
re: #185 KGxvi
Yeah, the anti-union stuff is always fun among libertarians. I think a lot of it has to do with the idea that unions often require membership and therefore are “free associations” and I get that on a philosophical level, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense on a practical level.
I think a lot of them are honestly unaware of the role that unions have had in forming the modern American middle class. I get that unions have problems. Corruption for starters. I’m reasonably pro union but I understand why Unions aren’t as supported as much as they were when my grandfather worked for the NLRB. I still see a place for them in the economy though.
re: #187 HappyWarrior
I wonder how well organized they are though but I had not read about that.
Started in the 70’s by a hooker and an anthroplogist (2 people). Theyre pretty much West coast, IIRC.
re: #188 ObserverArt
It would. All these freedumb caucus assholes are admirers of Stone and other GOP dirty dealers.
Really that is what the entire Republican party is now.
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Dude! Catchy song. I remember my Dad playing it when i was a kid.
If Gaetz gets a call from DOJ over this, stands to reason they will ask him who gave him the derogatory information about Cohen. Both the likeliest and second-likeliest suspects (to my mind) really can’t afford to be caught being involved in this. https://t.co/JQXwiAIht5
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) February 26, 2019
re: #190 Decatur Deb
Started in the 70’s by a hooker and an anthroplogist (2 people). Theyre pretty much West coast, IIRC.
Yeah I read the wiki. I think it’s a good thing. My instinct is that prostitution should be legalized. Consenting adults and all but I also want the participants to have an avenue out.
re: #182 HappyWarrior
Yeah and it’s really the same thing with drugs too. You get the gilbertarian naivete o those issues. Even one of my friends does but some of hte others I know just think shouting legalize recreational cocaine is a winning issue. And then they without irony look down on AOC for the Green New Deal which I like but I concede is a starting conversation not the final piece.
I was reading recently about how and why cocaine became illegal in the US. Apparently, “nobody” had a problem with it when it was middle class and rich white guys doing it. But when black guys started doing it, it because a problem. Funny that.
I’m sort of meh on legalizing drugs other than marijuana. Wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to it, but I suspect we are a long way from having any sort of rational conversation about it. Then again, I didn’t think I’d see a mainstream presidential candidate suggest decriminalizing sex work in my lifetime either, so there’s that.
re: #176 HappyWarrior
I’m trying to convince my libertarian friends who want to legalize sex work to get on board with the union that sex workers have in the UK and Netherlands. But they’re vehemently anti-union too.
They’re in market for cut-rate blowjobs.
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re: #147 TedStriker
Just think, Penny. If we give Bernie another 30 years in government, he might name another 2 post offices!
— Tree Trunks (@efuseakay) February 26, 2019
re: #189 HappyWarrior
I think a lot of them are honestly unaware of the role that unions have had in forming the modern American middle class. I get that unions have problems. Corruption for starters. I’m reasonably pro union but I understand why Unions aren’t as supported as much as they were when my grandfather worked for the NLRB. I still see a place for them in the economy though.
Unions are large organizations. They have problems of large organizations. They have inefficiencies that are built in BECAUSE they are large organizations. They also have weaknesses as large organizations because they are in opposition to other large organizations, i.e., corporations who hire union members.
re: #195 KGxvi
I was reading recently about how and why cocaine became illegal in the US. Apparently, “nobody” had a problem with it when it was middle class and rich white guys doing it. But when black guys started doing it, it because a problem. Funny that.
I’m sort of meh on legalizing drugs other than marijuana. Wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to it, but I suspect we are a long way from having any sort of rational conversation about it. Then again, I didn’t think I’d see a mainstream presidential candidate suggest decriminalizing sex work in my lifetime either, so there’s that.
I think we just need to do it incrementally. Even Amsterdam for all its reputation of being a drug user’s paradise never outright legalized cocaine and heroin. TBH if we’re going to want to legalize the hard drugs, I want there to be a ready steady treatment facilities. Coke and especially heroin are different animals than marijuana. I admit that a lot of my reluctance with heroin is for personal reasons. A family member and a friend will do that. I don’t touch that shit. I like marijuana. In fact, I’d even say it’s better than pot or cigs but heroin, I stay the hell out of its way.
re: #185 KGxvi
Yeah, the anti-union stuff is always fun among libertarians. I think a lot of it has to do with the idea that unions often require membership and therefore are “free associations” and I get that on a philosophical level, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense on a practical level.
Yeah, funny thing - they have no problem with companies dealing strictly as a single entity in employer/employee relations. It’s only if the workers want to do the same thing that it bugs them.
Ask them if they think unions should be able to choose which member of Management they deal with, rather than having the company choose.
re: #198 gwangung
Unions are large organizations. They have problems of large organizations. They have inefficiencies that are built in BECAUSE they are large organizations. They also have weaknesses as large organizations because they are in opposition to other large organizations, i.e., corporations who hire union members.
Exactly. It’s not a problem with unions in themselves. It’s a problem when you have large amounts of people. Different interests inevitably emerge. I’ll never get why people trying to advocate for better wages and conditions are seen as ungrateful. The UMWA? It probably saved my great grandfathers’ lives.
re: #199 HappyWarrior
I think we just need to do it incrementally. Even Amsterdam for all its reputation of being a drug user’s paradise never outright legalized cocaine and heroin. TBH if we’re going to want to legalize the hard drugs, I want there to be a ready steady treatment facilities. Coke and especially heroin are different animals than marijuana. I admit that a lot of my reluctance with heroin is for personal reasons. A family member and a friend will do that. I don’t touch that shit. I like marijuana. In fact, I’d even say it’s better than pot or cigs but heroin, I stay the hell out of its way.
I would prefer to keep those illegal, but being busted results in treatment not prison.
re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, funny thing - they have no problem with companies dealing strictly as a single entity in employer/employee relations. It’s only if the workers want to do the same thing that it bugs them.
Ask them if they think unions should be able to choose which member of Management they deal with, rather than having the company choose.
What I have never liked is how companies have harassed employees who want to form unions. I’ll never get why so called libertarians accept that shit even if they’re instinctively anti-union. If the employees don’t want to form a union, that’s their right too but they should be able to form one if they vote on it. My grandfather’s first job at the NLRB was to be an observer when employees voted on whether they wanted it or not. My older cousin who knew him was telling me that he knew people like Hoffa and those guys.
re: #203 Belafon
I would prefer to keep those illegal, but being busted results in treatment not prison.
I haven’t really decided honestly. I definitely agree though and I would at least accept treatment as the solution rather than prison. I just think maybe it is possible hypothetically to be able to use those harder drugs without being an addict but I can certainly understand why you feel the way you do because those are dangerous drugs.
Pray for Matt Gertz, who is not — I repeat, not — Rep. Matt Gaetz. pic.twitter.com/NF65i34dgJ
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) February 26, 2019
re: #191 HappyWarrior
Dude! Catchy song. I remember my Dad playing it when i was a kid.
That is a great album overall. Love the humor of it all.
re: #195 KGxvi
I’m sort of meh on legalizing drugs other than marijuana. Wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to it, but I suspect we are a long way from having any sort of rational conversation about it. Then again, I didn’t think I’d see a mainstream presidential candidate suggest decriminalizing sex work in my lifetime either, so there’s that.
I come down to being for it just to daylight the production process and eliminate the black market violence, waste and pollution. The amount of societal resources used up by incarceration, interdiction and eradication programs is horrifying.
re: #205 HappyWarrior
I haven’t really decided honestly. I definitely agree though and I would at least accept treatment as the solution rather than prison. I just think maybe it is possible hypothetically to be able to use those harder drugs without being an addict but I can certainly understand why you feel the way you do because those are dangerous drugs.
I ascribe to the theory that there are a lot of people that stay out of trouble - and I necessarily mean legal, but more like not suffering consequences - because some things are hard to do. Make something like hard drugs legal and easy to get to, and a whole lot more people will have issues, and more importantly issues that will affect a whole lot of other lives.
re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth
pretty certain that it’s a good bet that Cohen wife and father-in-law already know about the girlfriend(s)
That’s what’s got me confused - I thought that stuff came out already? At least I remember reading it somewhere.
re: #205 HappyWarrior
Cocaine is actually a Schedule II drug, but it cannot be prescribed outside of a hospital/outpatient surgery.
re: #204 HappyWarrior
As a child, we went to railworkers’ picnics at West View Park. My first job, joined ILGWU in a warehouse. My college job was an IUE assembly line (shop steward). The fed job, I was sort of in AFGE (they couldn’t represent me, but I had dues deducted voluntarily). I’ll be buried with 4-5 pieces of identification, and one will be my IUE card.
re: #209 Belafon
I ascribe to the theory that there are a lot of people that stay out of trouble - and I necessarily mean legal, but more like not suffering consequences - because some things are hard to do. Make something like hard drugs legal and easy to get to, and a whole lot more people will have issues, and more importantly issues that will affect a whole lot of other lives.
To say nothing of what it does to the countries who supply us. Decriminalization seems like the least worst alternative, and anti-drug advertising and treatment are better uses of our interdiction money.
re: #189 HappyWarrior
I think a lot of them are honestly unaware of the role that unions have had in forming the modern American middle class. I get that unions have problems. Corruption for starters. I’m reasonably pro union but I understand why Unions aren’t as supported as much as they were when my grandfather worked for the NLRB. I still see a place for them in the economy though.
If you want to reduce the size of government, empower unions. The problem libertarians have is they think everyone plays equally and fairly in the market.
re: #209 Belafon
I ascribe to the theory that there are a lot of people that stay out of trouble - and I necessarily mean legal, but more like not suffering consequences - because some things are hard to do. Make something like hard drugs legal and easy to get to, and a whole lot more people will have issues, and more importantly issues that will affect a whole lot of other lives.
In fact, it’s much easier for underage people to get drugs than it is to get cigarettes and alcohol. Which suggests a way of dealing with the hard stuff.
CBS News report:
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House passes resolution aimed at blocking Trump’s national emergency declaration
Washington — The House of Representatives passed a resolution late Tuesday afternoon that would terminate President Trump’s national emergency proclamation, which is also being challenged in court by a multi-state lawsuit.
The final vote of 245 to 182 fell largely along party lines, but 13 Republicans joined Democrats in supporting the measure.
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re: #169 wrenchwench
Feminist women have been fighting about it since the 80s. Can’t quote anyone, might have been a local phenomenon.
Not local. I’d say most feminists have been in favor of decriminalizing sex work since at least the 80s. It was mainstream in my women’s study classes and Ms. Magazine.
There’s an ABC interview with Selma Blair who is dealing with Multiple Sclerosis. It’s far enough along it’s affecting her speech.
So tomorrow we’ll have:
DNC: “Mr. Cohen, could you go into detail about how President Trump was engaged in illegal activities to further his political ambitions?”
GOP: “DOES YOUR WIFE KNOW YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?! WHAT?! I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!”
re: #180 freetoken
Libertarianism is very much a self-defeating view of life.
It is a reactionary movement.
It’s a marketing strategy to make anarchists sound modern and cool.
Trump’s so hungry for approval he couldn’t wait to bury his face in some Kim cheeks.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 26, 2019
re: #218 PhillyPretzel
Good news, but unfortunately about 45 votes short of a veto-proof majority.
It will be curious how the Courts deal with Congress passing a resolution revoking the national emergency. Between the resolution and the prior funding bills, it definitely puts Trump in Jackson’s lowest ebb:
When the President takes measures incompatible with the expressed or implied will of Congress, his power is at its lowest ebb, for then he can rely only upon his own constitutional powers minus any constitutional powers of Congress over the matter. Courts can sustain exclusive presidential control in such a case only by disabling the Congress from acting upon the subject. [Footnote 4/4] Presidential claim to a power at once so conclusive and preclusive must be scrutinized with caution, for what is at stake is the equilibrium established by our constitutional system.
re: #216 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
In fact, it’s much easier for underage people to get drugs than it is to get cigarettes and alcohol. Which suggests a way of dealing with the hard stuff.
Ok, admittedly it has been a few decades since I was underage, but cigarettes and alcohol were always super easy, you just nicked them from someones parents or got an older sibling to buy for you. I wouldn’t even have been able to tell you where to get drugs. I may have been able to guess who in high school could have gotten me some pot, but hard drugs, not the foggiest.
re: #223 darthstar
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Christ. How fucking embarrassing.
Not the food pun. That’s just a groan.
Jacob Wahl right now pic.twitter.com/ea9XEwR0oQ
— Bigfoot Monday (@AtheistBigfoot) February 26, 2019
There goes his ‘someone hacked my account’ defense.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 26, 2019
What in the blazing hell is “witness testing”?
re: #222 Romantic Heretic
It’s a marketing strategy to make anarchists sound modern and cool.
Ahh, if you’re going anarchist go oldschool.
re: #220 Belafon
There’s an ABC interview with Selma Blair who is dealing with Multiple Sclerosis. It’s far enough along it’s affecting her speech.
Saw that on ABC news: sad that someone that young (46) has to deal with that serious a disease. OTOH, treatments for MS have made tremendous strides, it’s no longer an inescapable sentence of slow doom. Good luck to her.
re: #226 danarchy
Ok, admittedly it has been a few decades since I was underage, but cigarettes and alcohol were always super easy, you just nicked them from someones parents or got an older sibling to buy for you. I wouldn’t even have been able to tell you where to get drugs. I may have been able to guess who in high school could have gotten me some pot, but hard drugs, not the foggiest.
There were a couple of liquor stores near my high school that would sell without checking ID. They’d get their licenses suspended every so often but it wasn’t so bad. I didn’t know who to ask while I was in high school, but when I was working at a pizza place in college a few guys that I went to high school with were slinging weed on the side. They were also able to get heavier stuff, but I don’t really remember them getting anything.
re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg
What in the blazing hell is “witness testing”?
Threats, but only when Republicans make them.
Oh…
Trump was personally signing checks for illegal payments while in office?
Impeachable! https://t.co/vLcMEcUjVe— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) February 27, 2019
re: #230 darthstar
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A few immediate thoughts:
1. It feels like whoever fed him the info also fed him this bullshit “witness testing” line.
2. Witness “testing” usually arises in cross-examination, when the person can actually respond. I mean, what the fuck is being tested by this one-sided tweet?
3. Gaetz is objectively fucking stupid.
re: #233 Jay C
Saw that on ABC news: sad that someone that young (46) has to deal with that serious a disease. OTOH, treatments for MS have made tremendous strides, it’s no longer an inescapable sentence of slow doom. Good luck to her.
Montel Williams was only 43 when he was diagnosed.
re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg
What in the blazing hell is “witness testing”?
We are all witnessing him testing the bounds of how far you can bullshit your way.
re: #233 Jay C
Saw that on ABC news: sad that someone that young (46) has to deal with that serious a disease. OTOH, treatments for MS have made tremendous strides, it’s no longer an inescapable sentence of slow doom. Good luck to her.
I was trying real hard to figure out how to strike the right tone on it. She’s mentally handling it as well as anyone could, and definitely modern treatments will help her stay in her kid’s/kids’ (I don’t know how many she has) lives. And she looked great. But having it already affect her speech and movements is probably already frustrating.
re: #235 Jay C
Threats, but only when Republicans make them.
“Hey! I’m just asking questions here!” - Torquemada.
re: #238 Eclectic Cyborg
Montel Williams was only 43 when he was diagnosed.
A girl friend’s daughter was diagnosed when she was about 20. 15 years later, she is married, a mother, and has a challenging career.
re: #237 Mike Lamb
A few immediate thoughts:
1. It feels like whoever fed him the info also fed him this bullshit “witness testing” line.
2. Witness “testing” usually arises in cross-examination, when the person can actually respond. I mean, what the fuck is being tested by this one-sided tweet?
3. Gaetz is objectively fucking stupid.
I was listening to MSNBC and Nicole Wallace was funny as hell…he really fucked himself and doesn’t fully appreciate how much yet. There are already calls for the Ethics Committee to investigate him.
Please, please, please, please, please…
Doug Jones taunts Roy Moore to run: ‘Let’s just do it again’
politico.com
re: #226 danarchy
Ok, admittedly it has been a few decades since I was underage, but cigarettes and alcohol were always super easy, you just nicked them from someones parents or got an older sibling to buy for you. I wouldn’t even have been able to tell you where to get drugs. I may have been able to guess who in high school could have gotten me some pot, but hard drugs, not the foggiest.
That more or less matches my experience, but tobacco and alcohol use by teens has been declining steadily, while “harder” drug use remains steady.
re: #244 Decatur Deb
Please, please, please, please, please…
Doug Jones taunts Roy Moore to run: ‘Let’s just do it again’
politico.com
Dunno, man. Moore got malled last time…..
re: #244 Decatur Deb
Please, please, please, please, please…
Doug Jones taunts Roy Moore to run: ‘Let’s just do it again’
politico.com
Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers…
Let me put it this way: if one of my clients made a statement to a witness like @mattgaetz did, I’d be telling them to board their dogs so they don’t get shot when the arrest team shows up.
— WitnessTestingHat (@Popehat) February 26, 2019
Gaetz is engaging in “witness testing” for the simple reason that Congressional testimony doesn’t follow the rules a real courtroom would follow, else Matty would get th everloving shit beat out of him by the judge the moment he started “testing” a witness by badgering him over alleged extramarital affairs and the possibility of divorce if his wife were to learn about them.
re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White
Dunno, man. Moore got malled last time…..
Be a shame if he had to stay 200 yards away from school polling places.
re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White
Dunno, man. Moore got malled last time…..
What you did there. I see it. :)
re: #237 Mike Lamb
A few immediate thoughts:
1. It feels like whoever fed him the info also fed him this bullshit “witness testing” line.
2. Witness “testing” usually arises in cross-examination, when the person can actually respond. I mean, what the fuck is being tested by this one-sided tweet?
3. Gaetz is objectively fucking stupid.
3.
re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg
What you did there. I see it. :)
Moore deciding to run is an internal morality play between Experience and Arrogance.
Hope Arrogance wins.
re: #225 KGxvi
Good news, but unfortunately about 45 votes short of a veto-proof majority.
It will be curious how the Courts deal with Congress passing a resolution revoking the national emergency. Between the resolution and the prior funding bills, it definitely puts Trump in Jackson’s lowest ebb:
That’s my take as well, that this is significant mostly as direct evidence for the courts that Trump’s declaration is an unprecedented usurpation of congress’s expressly voted desire.
re: #206 goddamnedfrank
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I certainly hope that Matt is not driving since he is obviously majorly drunk
oh wait…this is his normal state of idiocracy
He is a MOC so he can’t make his account private.
How’s everyone else’s night going? pic.twitter.com/TyDrEQNCK0
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) February 27, 2019
re: #256 The Vicious Babushka
He is a MOC so he can’t make his account private.
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Matt GERTZ isn’t a Congressman.
re: #256 The Vicious Babushka
He is a MOC so he can’t make his account private.
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Gertz VB not Gaetz. This isn’t him.
re: #176 HappyWarrior
I’m trying to convince my libertarian friends who want to legalize sex work to get on board with the union that sex workers have in the UK and Netherlands. But they’re vehemently anti-union too.
Legal and unionized is best. New Zealand is that way too.
re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth
weasel words
As one would expect from a weasel. (with apologies to all mustelids).
re: #237 Mike Lamb
A few immediate thoughts:
1. It feels like whoever fed him the info also fed him this bullshit “witness testing” line.
2. Witness “testing” usually arises in cross-examination, when the person can actually respond. I mean, what the fuck is being tested by this one-sided tweet?
3. Gaetz is objectively fucking stupid.
I’m sticking with my one guess who “that person” is
re: #256 The Vicious Babushka
He is a MOC so he can’t make his account private.
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Matt Gaetz is the shithead Congressman in question, Matt Gertz is with Media Matters.
re: #257 Blind Frog Belly White
Matt GERTZ isn’t a Congressman.
OK he’s the Media Matters guy but I thought there was a congressman from NY named Matt Gertz.
re: #134 TedStriker
Let’s face it…Bernie has pretty much been a Dem backbencher his whole tenure in the Senate, because he really hasn’t got shit to his name there. But, once he decided to run for POTUS last time and build his public profile up (and got a bunch of adoring fans, most of whom seems to be white and middle-class), his ego got hooked on it.
That’s why he’s doing it again, for the ego boost; he (and the Bros) also seems to be hoping that Trump so completely craters the country, he can sweep ahead of the growing Dem 2020 pack as the Socialist Savior (and, frankly, that’s what I think the plan for them in 2016 was all along). There’s too much of an intersection between Bernie’s 2016 campaign and the Russian interference to be a coincidence and I fear there will be more of the same for next year.
I don’t trust Bernie, his campaign, or the Bros at all.
OK, so maybe a bit of drunk posting, but was talking with colleagues about leadership and vision with respect to my organization. Bernie doesn’t have it, either.
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