Another Unique NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert: Natalie Prass

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Feb. 25, 2019 | Joshua Bote — Full disclosure: We here at NPR Music have decreed Natalie Prass something of a patron saint for roséwave — our groove-laden, pink drink-soaked soundtrack for the summer. So, when the Richmond, Va. artist arrived at the Tiny Desk, it was a cause for celebration, especially amid the January blues that seemed to permeate the NPR Music office. Decked out in matching, cobalt blue outfits (with a matching keyboard stand to boot), Prass and her backing band, comprised of Eric Slick, Alan Parker, Jacob Ungerleider and Brandon Lane, seemed to bring a warm breeze in with them.

There’s a sly political bent to Prass’ 2018 album, The Future and the Past. Ahead of its release, she said she actually had a different album nearly finished, but scrapped a huge chunk of it after Donald Trump’s election, which in turn led her to make this album instead. She highlights this mission statement on the album opener — and first song she performed at the desk — “Oh My.” It’s a track that speaks pointedly about the abject feeling of horror and exhaustion that seeps in when you tune into the news cycle, with bleak lyrics set against bright, dance-y music.

For the unabashedly delightful “Short Court Style,” Prass brings on Angelica Garcia and Kenneka Cook, two backup singers who, like Prass, are from Richmond. It’s a rare kind of song that celebrates hard-won love in all its intricacies.

Before closing with “Hot for the Mountain,” Prass tells the NPR office that “the song’s a little off the beaten path, but, I don’t know, it’s my favorite.” “We’ll take you on / We can take you on,” Prass, Garcia and Cook sing in unison, a refrain that resounds emphatically. Her vision was clear: If you want to overcome the times, find strength in numbers.

Set List
“Oh My”
“Short Court Style”
“Hot For the Mountain”

Musicians
Natalie Prass: vocals, keys; Eric Slick: drums; Alan Parker: guitar; Jacob Ungerleider: keys; Brandon Lane: bass; Angelica Garcia: vocals; Kenneka Cook: vocals

Credits
Producers: Bob Boilen, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineers: Josh Rogosin, Patrick Boyd; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Kimani Oletu, Beck Harlan, CJ Riculan; Editor: Kimani Oletu; Associate Producer: Bobby Carter; Production Assistant: Adelaide Sandstrom; Photo: Amr Alfiky/NPR

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 4, 2019 • 8:55:09pm
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freetoken  Mar 4, 2019 • 8:58:09pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2019 • 9:01:33pm

re: #1 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Sean’s getting more and more ridiculous the closer he gets to facing federal charges. Which should come as a surprise to nobody who’s been following this whole shitshow for the past 2 years.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 4, 2019 • 9:25:02pm

Canadian problems.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2019 • 9:40:38pm

So, I see Bernie is repeating his 2016 tactic of promising he’s gonna run and (if elected) serve as a Democrat while he’s quietly filing for reelection as an “independent.”

I would love for just one debate moderator to ask aloud “Give your track record, why shouldn’t we treat your promise to serve as a Democrat as a bald-faced lie?”

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2019 • 9:41:27pm

Our local Fox affiliate is now showing Hannity at 9:00 on the channel. They aren’t even trying to show any level of balance. It’s now just pure propaganda on the local level.

It also shows a certain level of desperation.

Oh, and this Tiny Desk Concert is Killer Bee!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 4, 2019 • 9:55:40pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

So, I see Bernie is repeating his 2016 tactic of promising he’s gonna run and (if elected) serve as a Democrat while he’s quietly filing for reelection as an “independent.”

I would love for just one debate moderator to ask aloud “Give your track record, why shouldn’t we treat your promise to serve as a Democrat as a bald-faced lie?”

Let’s see if he releases his tax returns — and I want to see them for at least 25 years.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 4, 2019 • 9:58:03pm

re: #7 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s see if he releases his tax returns — and I want to see them for at least 25 years.

I bring up that point when Berniebots challenge my support of Warren on Facebook and they love to claim that Bernie has released all of his taxes.

I ask them where Bernie’s taxes are posted and it sure is amazing that they can’t tell me where…

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2019 • 9:59:07pm

re: #7 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s see if he releases his tax returns — and I want to see them for at least 25 years.

I imagine he’s going to go with the same shit Trump does: “Nobody cares about those.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:00:27pm

re: #4 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Canadian problems.

Reminding me of this old Woody Allen routine, back when he was funny.

Remember when Mom saw this the first time and she almost fell out of her chair laughing because she said this was the stupidest thing she ever saw…and she said she couldn’t stop laughing…

Woody Allen - The Moose

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:02:24pm

re: #4 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Canadian problems.

Yes, but does he play the fiddle as well?

//

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:03:54pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Yes, but does he play the fiddle as well?

//

Or fly, pulling a sleigh, like his cousins?

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:04:23pm

re: #6 austin_blue

Our local Fox affiliate is now showing Hannity at 9:00 on the channel. They aren’t even trying to show any level of balance. It’s now just pure propaganda on the local level.

It also shows a certain level of desperation.

Oh, and this Tiny Desk Concert is Killer Bee!

Is this happening on other local Fox channels anywhere else? Austin is a very Liberal town, so enquiring minds want to know. Are they trying to peel off independents, or just trying to juice up the mouth breathers?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:06:16pm

re: #6 austin_blue

Our local Fox affiliate is now showing Hannity at 9:00 on the channel. They aren’t even trying to show any level of balance. It’s now just pure propaganda on the local level.

It also shows a certain level of desperation.

Oh, and this Tiny Desk Concert is Killer Bee!

Is it a SincLIAR station?

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:09:21pm

Yeah, but can you override his veto, or is this kabuki theater?

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:09:30pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is it a SincLIAR station?

No. Fox affiliate.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:15:22pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

I bring up that point when Berniebots challenge my support of Warren on Facebook and they love to claim that Bernie has released all of his taxes.

I ask them where Bernie’s taxes are posted and it sure is amazing that they can’t tell me where…

A friend who supported Bernie in the primaries last time, voted for Hillary in the general, and hates Trump as much as any lizard believes the American public are idiots who will re-elect Trump unless he is forced to depart early. The friend is also a firm believer that the Democrats will find a way to self-destruct because there are too many contenders — but his primary qualifications for a Democratic nominee are (1) someone younger than 60 and (2) someone devoted to the environment. And let’s just say he has lost all his original enthusiasm for Bernie.

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:17:14pm

re: #16 austin_blue

No. Fox affiliate.

Oops, sorry, missed what you were asking. Sinclair owns the CBS affiliate as its DT1, and Telemundo as its DT2.

They may be assholes, but they know where the money is in this market.

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gwangung  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:17:20pm

re: #15 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Yeah, but can you override his veto, or is this kabuki theater?

Kabuki, certainly. Not sure even the House could over-ride.

Names are down in print…and the Rs are hoping voters will forget in a few months.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:19:12pm

re: #19 gwangung

Kabuki, certainly. Not sure even the House could over-ride.

Names are down in print…and the Rs are hoping voters will forget in a few months.

I want Republicans to oppose a veto override because that will allow President Warren to declare a National Health Emergency and open Medicare to everyone as a first step.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:20:07pm

re: #18 austin_blue

Oops, sorry, missed what you were asking. Sinclair owns the CBS affiliate as its DT1, and Telemundo as its DT2.

They may be assholes, but they know where the money is in this market.

How is Sinclair able to own the CBS affiliate? Does that mean that the station regurgitates Sinclair propaganda?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:21:29pm

re: #19 gwangung

Kabuki, certainly. Not sure even the House could over-ride.

Names are down in print…and the Rs are hoping voters will forget in a few months.

House cannot override because there aren’t sufficient Republicans who are loyal to the Constitution or the country.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:23:19pm

re: #22 Hecuba’s daughter

House cannot override because there aren’t sufficient Republicans who are loyal to the Constitution or the country.

That’s what I am counting on because their support of the Veto will turn around and bite lots of those RepubliKKKlan Congressmen and Senators in the ass when a Democrat gets back in the White House!

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:24:15pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:24:45pm

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ckkatz  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:29:41pm

re: #23 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s what I am counting on because their support of the Veto will turn around and bite lots of those RepubliKKKlan Congressmen and Senators in the ass when a Democrat gets back in the White House!

Understanding of course, that the Supremes are not required to maintain the same rulings versus the Democrats that they made for Republicans.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:34:34pm

re: #15 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Yeah, but can you override his veto, or is this kabuki theater?

Incredibly doubtful there will be enough votes in either chamber to override the veto, but this is still important because it provides the House lawsuit with some incredibly powerful ammunition. Both the House and Senate will have voted to override a non-emergency emergency declaration that Trump has openly admitted he didn’t have to do and did solely to usurp Congress’ Article One appropriations authority to himself. The Courts will almost certainly view that prima facie evidence that Trump has committed a serious unconstitutional abuse of power. I very much doubt that Roberts (and possibly even Alito, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh given their remaining time on the bench) will just want to hand future Democratic Presidents that kind of absurd precedent. Also, remember that the President’s ability to veto a Congressional override of a Presidential emergency declaration was itself was a consequence of a SCOTUS ruling in INS v Chadha, and that the original legislation ended the emergency when just the House had overridden the order. The Act was amended in 1985 so that a joint resolution was required to end the emergency and that made the President’s veto possible apparently because joint resolutions must be signed to go into effect.

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:45:14pm

re: #21 Hecuba’s daughter

How is Sinclair able to own the CBS affiliate? Does that mean that the station regurgitates Sinclair propaganda?

Sinclair owns a bunch of local affiliates of various networks around the country.

Sinclair leaves the Austin CBS affiliate pretty much alone. It’s either #1 or #2 in the local news during prime time. Telemundo is the #1 Hispanic station in town, Univision a distant second. They also leave them alone. They broadcast live English Premier League games on Telemundo, often when NBC has them on NBCS1 on cable so that non-cable watchers (and there a bunch of us, I’ve got at least 30 HD on-air channels) can see them. GOOOOOOOOOOAL!

Like I said, Sinclair may be bastards, but they leave channels alone when they are making good money.

Hannity is now being broadcast on the local, FOX owned station. Trumpaganda.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:52:05pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Incredibly doubtful there will be enough votes in either chamber to override the veto, but this is still important because it provides the House lawsuit with some incredibly powerful ammunition. Both the House and Senate will have voted to override a non-emergency emergency declaration that Trump has openly admitted he didn’t have to do and did solely to usurp Congress’ Article One appropriations authority to himself. The Courts will almost certainly view that prima facie evidence that Trump has committed a serious unconstitutional abuse of power. I very much doubt that Roberts (and possibly even Alito, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh given their remaining time on the bench) will just want to hand future Democratic Presidents that kind of absurd precedent. Also, remember that the President’s ability to veto a Congressional override of a Presidential emergency declaration was itself was a consequence of a SCOTUS ruling in INS v Chadha, and that the original legislation ended the emergency when just the House had overridden the order. The Act was amended in 1985 so that a joint resolution was required to end the emergency and that made the President’s veto possible apparently because joint resolutions must be signed to go into effect.

The whole thing is really fucking weird to me because the President’s authority to declare an emergency still only exists because of a law passed by Congress granting him that power. So why shouldn’t they have been able to preemptively set up a check on that power in the law itself via a simple majority vote? I can understand why SCOTUS didn’t think the one House vote was enough, but if the House and Senate both say no by simple majority votes that should be the end of the story.

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freetoken  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:52:12pm

Another ‘80’s star gone:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:55:20pm

re: #28 austin_blue

Sinclair owns a bunch of local affiliates of various networks around the country.

Sinclair leaves the Austin CBS affiliate pretty much alone. It’s either #1 or #2 in the local news during prime time. Telemundo is the #1 Hispanic station in town, Univision a distant second. They also leave them alone. They broadcast live English Premier League games on Telemundo, often when NBC has them on NBCS1 on cable so that non-cable watchers (and there a bunch of us, I’ve got at least 30 HD on-air channels) can see them. GOOOOOOOOOOAL!

Like I said, Sinclair may be bastards, but they leave channels alone when they are making good money.

Hannity is now being broadcast on the local, FOX owned station. Trumpaganda.

KCPQ, Channel 13 is the Fox affiliate here, and I’ve kept my eye on them, but their news shows don’t seem any different from the other channels—which means treating the GOP’s craziest shit as perfectly normal, of course.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:56:17pm

Is Sir Ivan Rogers really correct — that Theresa May did not understand the EU when she was trying to negotiate a Brexit deal? theguardian.com

Is there anyone in Britain who is competent? Or is that an unfair characterization of her team?

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2019 • 10:58:11pm

re: #30 freetoken

Another ‘80’s star gone:

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No nipples allowed!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 4, 2019 • 11:01:25pm

re: #30 freetoken

Another ‘80’s star gone:

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Damn. I remember him playing one of Peg Bundy’s uncles on Married with Children when Divine passed away while in LA to play the part—now it’s him. RIP.

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2019 • 11:06:39pm

re: #31 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

KCPQ, Channel 13 is the Fox affiliate here, and I’ve kept my eye on them, but their news shows don’t seem any different from the other channels—which means treating the GOP’s craziest shit as perfectly normal, of course.

Well, like I said, Austin is a very blue pimple in a very red Texas (at least outside of the metros and the Rio Grand Valley) but Channel 7 (the Fox affiliate) is last in almost everything from news to content. They are losing money hand over foot, and I think they have decided to bring Hannity in at the 9:00 slot to try to grab eyeballs and lead in to the 10:00 news.

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austin_blue  Mar 4, 2019 • 11:31:27pm

Welp, it’s going to be around 26º tomorrow morning and my heater has gone all hinky. I am presently at 54º in the house and the feline overlord, Socket, is looking at me like, “are you really a human? because this is getting kind of cold and you had only one job.”

I’m going to layer up and go to bed. She Who Must Be Obeyed is up in Arkansas playing gigs this week, and it’s just me and Teh Kitteh for eight days.

Night all, sweet dreams.

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Targetpractice  Mar 4, 2019 • 11:34:15pm

re: #36 austin_blue

Welp, it’s going to be around 26º tomorrow morning and my heater has gone all hinky. I am presently at 54º in the house and the feline overlord, Socket, is looking at me like, “are you really a human? because this is getting kind of cold and you had only one job.”

I’m going to layer up and go to bed. She Who Must Be Obeyed is up in Arkansas playing gigs this week, and it’s just me and Teh Kitteh for eight days.

Night all, sweet dreams.

This is the point where my cat would go “Human, you will let me under that blanket with you!”

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 4, 2019 • 11:59:47pm

Farm life truly is the best of what America has to offer, and that’s why we fucked over America’s farmers with a trade war.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:09:13am

Thanks Obama.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:22:25am

“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?”

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:58:42am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 5, 2019 • 1:05:38am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 5, 2019 • 1:10:45am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

Now it’s the Republicans who have lost their spines.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 5, 2019 • 1:11:12am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

Mitt is just checking the wind direction.

Youtube Video

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 5, 2019 • 1:17:51am

re: #10 Joe Bacon 🌹

I didn’t know he did stand up. Hilarious.

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sagehen  Mar 5, 2019 • 2:07:46am

re: #39 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Thanks Obama.

Considering the emission reductions timeline on this chart, the thanks has to be shared — HW, Clinton, Shrub, & Obama.

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sagehen  Mar 5, 2019 • 2:11:11am

re: #41 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

7 of the 10 most polluted cities in the world are in India, according to a new study

2 more are in Pakistan (downwind from India), and the other in China (also downwind from India, but they also make plenty of their own air pollution)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 5, 2019 • 2:23:29am

re: #47 sagehen

2 more are in Pakistan (downwind from India), and the other in China (also downwind from India, but they also make plenty of their own air pollution)

China is not really downwind from India, but Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam are. Meanwhile, South Koreans (and probably North Koreans) complain about the pollution wafting eastward from China.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 5, 2019 • 2:33:33am

Deal making 101, end tariffs when you finish negotiating.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 5, 2019 • 2:46:30am

Who picks these people?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 5, 2019 • 3:29:03am

re: #50 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Who picks these people?

I’ll give you one guess.

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 4:34:47am
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MsJ  Mar 5, 2019 • 4:50:57am

Sounds like a good idea.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 4:53:24am

re: #53 MsJ

Sounds like a good idea.

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Jesus. Fits a theme though with this administration when it comes to the judiciary. Put young, inexperienced loyalists to lifelong positions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:10:39am
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Wozza Matter?  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:12:15am

‘sup

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:14:48am
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jeffreyw  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:16:47am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:39:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:42:26am

re: #45 Patricia Kayden

I didn’t know [Woody Allen] did stand up. Hilarious.

I remember his routine about philosophy class;

“I cheated on my metaphysics exam. I looked into the soul of the person sitting next to me.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:44:43am

Saudi app used to track women ‘not against’ Google rules,

Now Google could also offer a dissident tracker, with a sound implanted in each limb of the body so all their locations can be traced after they are arrested and interrogated.

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Citizen K  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:46:02am

In which Paul Krugman makes one of the points I’ve been making here for a while.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:47:27am

re: #62 Citizen K

In which Paul Krugman makes one of the points I’ve been making here for a while.

It fits in perfectly with the people who believe that Judaism = Zionism

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Dave In Austin  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:47:30am

Someone in the know. I’m leaving this in the open because “Roseanne”.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 5, 2019 • 5:59:44am
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Citizen K  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:00:42am

The ACORN warning is sadly apt, far as the GOP’s willingness to weaponize the Dems’ own good faith against them, and the Dem reflex to still fear the GOP’s bad faith attacks no matter what.

We’re getting ratfucked with the same old goddamned playbook, because it still works.

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:02:14am

re: #62 Citizen K

In which Paul Krugman makes one of the points I’ve been making here for a while.

That’s why Josh’s worry about Omar’s words is annoying. He should have been saying that it’s the right that wants to prevent any discussion of our relationship with Israel and it’s government, that they conflate the two, and make all criticism of Israel somehow anti-semetic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:03:10am

re: #66 Citizen K

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The ACORN warning is sadly apt, far as the GOP’s willingness to weaponize the Dems’ own good faith against them, and the Dem reflex to still fear the GOP’s bad faith attacks no matter what.

We’re getting ratfucked with the same old goddamned playbook, because it still works.

Ditto with what Breitbart did to Shirley Sherrod with his highly edited slime videos.

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:19:27am
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:20:28am

Craven, horrible and dangerous to us all.

Post-Hurricane Harvey, NASA tried to fly a pollution-spotting plane over Houston. The EPA said no

In the weeks after Hurricane Harvey’s catastrophic sweep through the Houston area — which resulted in chemical spills, fires, flooded storage tanks and damaged industrial plants — rescue crews and residents complained of burning throats, nausea and dizziness

Fifteen hundred miles west in the high desert city of Palmdale, NASA scientists were preparing to fly a DC-8, equipped with the world’s most sophisticated air samplers over the hurricane zone to monitor pollution levels.

The mission never got off the ground. Both the state of Texas and the EPA told the scientists to stay away.

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:21:44am
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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:24:37am

re: #70 Unshaken Defiance

The fuckers didn’t want to reveal the extent of the damage and chemical exposures. They are trying to pull another 9/11 - claiming everything was fine with the air quality, and it turns out that thousands around the NYC metro area were exposed to toxic chemicals - believing the lie from the EPA and authorities that the air was safe to breath. It wasn’t.

The GOP again reveals itself to be awful, evil, and craven.

These burdens fall on those least able to endure them - poor and minorities (who are often those living closest to chemical / petrochemical facilities and bear the brunt of environmental damage).

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:30:52am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:33:33am

re: #64 Dave In Austin

Someone in the know. I’m leaving this in the open because “Roseanne”.

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Classy.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:36:32am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Classy.

And in my mind I hear Sam yelling at her the whole time.

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:36:54am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:42:21am

re: #38 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Farm life truly is the best of what America has to offer, and that’s why we fucked over America’s farmers with a trade war.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:51:33am

re: #40 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?”

So true!

Joshua learned from experience; it doesn’t appear that the British government has that level of intelligence.

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Citizen K  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:52:13am

Goddammit Matt.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:53:56am

re: #72 lawhawk

The fuckers didn’t want to reveal the extent of the damage and chemical exposures. They are trying to pull another 9/11 - claiming everything was fine with the air quality, and it turns out that thousands around the NYC metro area were exposed to toxic chemicals - believing the lie from the EPA and authorities that the air was safe to breath. It wasn’t.

The GOP again reveals itself to be awful, evil, and craven.

These burdens fall on those least able to endure them - poor and minorities (who are often those living closest to chemical / petrochemical facilities and bear the brunt of environmental damage).

Nope — awful and evil yes but craven no. Craven means that you are too afraid to stand up for something you care about — the GOP does not care about air quality at all, unless it affects them personally — and perhaps not even then.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2019 • 6:57:02am

re: #50 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Who picks these people?

Just waiting for that dope pusher to flood South Central Los Angeles with more cocaine that finances Venezuelan insurgents.

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:03:20am

re: #64 Dave In Austin

Someone in the know. I’m leaving this in the open because “Roseanne”.

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Morning!

So, when will Rosanne realize no one cares about her politics and what she has to say about anything?

Go away…haven’t you made enough of a fool of yourself?

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:03:28am

re: #79 Citizen K

Goddammit Matt.

I think what he means is that they’d let in people who hate pineapple on pizza if it would get them extra votes. There’s a chunk of Republcans that are straight up anti-semitic, but most of the party just accepts it because it means more power. It’s probably just me, but the way I read his comment is that it’s not apologizing for the GOP so much as explaining why you will never get the them to abandon one of their hate groups.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:05:52am

re: #64 Dave In Austin

Someone in the know. I’m leaving this in the open because “Roseanne”.

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Confirmation that I was correct in calling her Blowsanne right from the start.

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:06:40am

re: #70 Unshaken Defiance

Craven, horrible and dangerous to us all.

What does that “P” in EPA stand for anyway???

I don’t think it means protect the polluters.

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freetoken  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:07:05am

re: #79 Citizen K

Matt has been increasingly showing tendencies of sliding in the circle-think found in some self-defined “liberal” groups that nevertheless always attempt to fit into the institutional hierarchy.

Think “Robert Wright” (bloggingheads founder) and that gang.

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freetoken  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:09:58am

In other words, some, especially in academic circles, find their thrill in being contrarian to the obvious, or the direct.

It’s partly the need to exercise the intellect, I suppose. I’ve done it at times.

After midnight in a college dorm sitting around cold pizza - ok, then it’s a fine thing to do.

But in real life, just trying to be too sophisticated just falls flat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:11:37am

Won’t stop the GOP from kissing Trump’s Ass.

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Citizen K  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:11:52am

re: #83 Belafon

I think what he means is that they’d let in people who hate pineapple on pizza if it would get them extra votes. There’s a chunk of Republcans that are straight up anti-semitic, but most of the party just accepts it because it means more power. It’s probably just me, but the way I read his comment is that it’s not apologizing for the GOP so much as explaining why you will never get the them to abandon one of their hate groups.

The whole thing still comes off as an excuse to give in to the double standard. Yeah, Dem voters are far more sympathetic and wary of those kinds of things, but using Republican intransigence as a reason for why we must focus more on Dem sins ignores the fact that it’s not about trying to convince Republicans. It’s about pushing the discussion away from ‘Dems behaving badly’ to ‘don’t condone any bad behavior’. Because throwing your hands up about GOP voters not caring about their bad behavior basically means that only Dem bad behavior ‘deserves’ to be the story, and it gives in to the idea that the media must follow the whims of the GOP voter, rather than all voters, therefore holding GOPers accountable doesn’t matter.

It’s cynicism masked as pragmatism.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:23:43am

Rep. Omar is a Muslim AND a woman. That puts two targets on her that the right wingers are happily exploiting.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:23:44am

re: #50 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Who picks these people?

D
J
T

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:42:45am

re: #72 lawhawk

Before 9/11 I had run through the California DTSC / EPA / CEQUA thing for the shop I work for.
It was patently obvious to anyone that had experience with regulated air quality that NYC was a hazardous atmosphere everywhere around the site and downwind. The kind of air quality that calls for positive pressure headgear, because the right respirator mask would be too hard to breathe through for days on end. Just the asbestos on the crushed and burned steam pipes, let alone the kerosene fed combustion products of a massive office building.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:47:08am

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:47:45am

re: #79 Citizen K

I agree with the rest of his statements, though I personally think Democrats go too far:

But Democrats *really do* believe in policing speech to avoid giving discomfort to vulnerable or marginalized groups and that’s an important part of their pitch to American Jews so they have to *do it in this case too* or it seems fishy.

All the other points people are making about this are true, however: Republicans are huge hypocrites, the attacks on Omar are drenched in overt anti-Muslim bigotry, and mainstream “pro-Israel” politics in the United States is in fact really bad and harmful.

Like we did with the GOP’s response to Northam in VA, we can tell the GOP to STFU, that they have no authority on this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:53:16am

re: #94 Belafon

Like we did with the GOP’s response to Northam in VA, we can tell the GOP to STFU, that they have no authority on this.

Narrator: They won’t shut the fuck up.

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2019 • 7:58:50am

re: #59 Belafon

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:00:22am

The next President, presumably a Democrat is gonna get an inauguration day call from Obama. “Damn, and I thought I had a tough job ahead…”

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:03:32am

re: #97 Unshaken Defiance

The next President, presumably a Democrat is gonna get an inauguration day call From Obama. “Damn, and I thought I had a tough job ahead…”

Whoever our next president is cannot treat the country as if it’s magically back at November 2016 and we somehow didn’t elect Trump. We have to own what happened and deal with it properly.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:04:16am

re: #98 Belafon

Even if that’s President Pelosi in some weeks.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:07:36am
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:09:52am

re: #96 MsJ

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These people really are stupid.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:13:00am

re: #101 Eventual Carrion

These people really are stupid.

Dumber, Sir

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:14:44am
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TedStriker  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:19:53am

re: #84 Joe Bacon 🌹

Confirmation that I was correct in calling her Blowsanne right from the start.

In more ways than one…

///

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makeitstop  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:21:00am
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TedStriker  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:22:34am

re: #105 makeitstop

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:25:38am

“…Goldman’s hiring comes amid a flurry of investigative activity by Democrats on Capitol Hill. Schiff and Representative Maxine Waters, the chair of the House Financial Services Committee, have agreed to coördinate an investigation of Trump’s long-standing ties to Deutsche Bank, which has paid multimillion-dollar penalties for facilitating the work of Russian money launderers. “

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:27:36am

re: #106 TedStriker

It’s the goddamned Fyre Festival, and you should see the updated follow up act. It’ll be a barn burner.

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makeitstop  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:31:32am

re: #108 lawhawk

It’s the goddamned Fyre Festival, and you should see the updated follow up act. It’ll be a barn burner.

The Dumpster Fyre Festival.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:32:07am

re: #108 lawhawk

It’s the goddamned Fyre Festival, and you should see the updated follow up act. It’ll be a barn burner.

Picturing a Trump-inspired Burning Man. “More Fawkes than Fawkes, that’s our motto.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:35:06am

re: #98 Belafon

Whoever our next president is cannot treat the country as if it’s magically back at November 2016 and we somehow didn’t elect Trump. We have to own what happened and deal with it properly.

It’s going to be a process and I really hope the rising left can be patient.

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:38:09am
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jaunte  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:44:54am

“…Typically, immigrants are held in custody until officials can determine they aren’t a danger to the community or a flight risk, said Katie Shepherd, National Advocacy Counsel for the Immigration Justice Campaign at the American Immigration Council.

“It’s very disturbing and ludicrous that ICE is saying we have to make an assessment as to whether a five-month-old is a danger or flight risk,” Shepherd told CBS News.”

Miniature bad hombres.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:47:19am

re: #113 jaunte

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Miniature bad hombres.

These people are vile.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:47:33am

re: #113 jaunte

Easy to mistreat people when you don’t see them as human.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:49:41am

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

Easy to mistreat people when you don’t see them as human.

And there’s nothing I see from conservatives that indicates that they do see undocumented folks that way. I don’t give a shit if they “broke the law.” It’s a goddamned misdemeanor. These same people would be pissed if a cop so much as railed their voice to them for speeding.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:49:46am
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wrenchwench  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:50:08am

re: #113 jaunte

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Miniature bad hombres.

Malotitos.

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Jay C  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:51:21am

re: #113 jaunte

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Miniature bad hombres.

Bad muchachos.

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gocart mozart  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:51:44am
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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:52:00am

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Music contracts are notorious regarding what is asked of artists and how they get screwed. I’m sure Charles can speak to that, but that sounds like an epic bad deal.

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makeitstop  Mar 5, 2019 • 8:55:57am

re: #121 lawhawk

Music contracts are notorious regarding what is asked of artists and how they get screwed. I’m sure Charles can speak to that, but that sounds like an epic bad deal.

A band I was in recorded an album for Warner Brothers in 1991, but they never released it. It took nearly 15 years to get the rights to the songs back. Hunter nailed it.

“The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There’s also a negative side.”

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:01:49am
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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:03:48am

re: #121 lawhawk

Music contracts are notorious regarding what is asked of artists and how they get screwed. I’m sure Charles can speak to that, but that sounds like an epic bad deal.

I’m still sort of amazed that the big record companies still exist in the ways that they do. Given the technology available and that music has (mostly) gone digital, it’s fairly easy to self produce. The only thing that labels seem to have going for them at this point is that they still seem to control access to radio play lists.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:05:04am

re: #123 jaunte

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They don’t care about victims of gun violence. They just offer empty thoughts and meaningless prayers. Not that I think all prayer is meaningless but they have the responsibility to do something and they do notta because the NRA owns them.

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:06:49am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

And past that, they’re spending an extra effort to be nasty to victims.

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:07:05am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

They don’t care

Edited to be evergreen.

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wrenchwench  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:07:53am

re: #124 KGxvi

I’m still sort of amazed that the big record companies still exist in the ways that they do. Given the technology available and that music has (mostly) gone digital, it’s fairly easy to self produce. The only thing that labels seem to have going for them at this point is that they still seem to control access to radio play lists.

Self-marketing may also have gone digital, but the large reach of established companies is tough to compete with. No matter how good the product is, it’s forced to compete in the marketplace if somebody wants to make a living at it.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:09:39am

re: #123 jaunte

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Are these reporters highly credible? Mardi Gras is the one day wearing beads could be innocent. (Also a good day to play for deniability.)

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:11:01am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Do they even know about Mardi Gras in New Hampshire?

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wrenchwench  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:12:51am

re: #130 jaunte

Do they even know about Mardi Gras in New Hampshire?

And if they did, would they wear white beads before Easter?

/I have no idea how these things work

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:13:25am

re: #128 wrenchwench

Self-marketing may also have gone digital, but the large reach of established companies is tough to compete with. No matter how good the product is, it’s forced to compete in the marketplace if somebody wants to make a living at it.

I suppose. But between being able to edit and mix a record on a lap top, and then release it on the iTunes, Google, and Amazon stores as digital, and being able to market on instagram, snapchat, and all the other social media platforms, I just wonder what the advantage of a “record deal” is today beyond getting on traditional radio (apparently it’s fairly easy to get on pandora and spotify now too).

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:13:37am

Hey guys, its time for Some More News…and one of the things mentioned in this episode is even more horrifying than the usual.

What The Media Gets Wrong About Donald Trump’s Wall - SOME MORE NEWS

Holy crap…

thehill.com

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wrenchwench  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:14:59am

re: #132 KGxvi

I suppose. But between being able to edit and mix a record on a lap top, and then release it on the iTunes, Google, and Amazon stores as digital, and being able to market on instagram, snapchat, and all the other social media platforms, I just wonder what the advantage of a “record deal” is today beyond getting on traditional radio (apparently it’s fairly easy to get on pandora and spotify now too).

I’ll just keep pasting this one:

/I have no idea how these things work

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makeitstop  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:20:55am

re: #124 KGxvi

I’m still sort of amazed that the big record companies still exist in the ways that they do. Given the technology available and that music has (mostly) gone digital, it’s fairly easy to self produce. The only thing that labels seem to have going for them at this point is that they still seem to control access to radio play lists.

They really don’t, outside of what you mentioned - getting airplay for their artists. You could tell that they were in bad straits when they started doing what are called ‘360 deals’ - where the labels started making deals with artists that would trade tour support for a percentage of an artist’s merchandising revenues (which are most bands’ bread and butter on the road).

A friend who had a pretty successful music career in the MTV heyday has a theory that the music business pretty much died in the wake of 9/11. It was at that point that they stopped signing a lot of acts, and cut support for the artists they already had signed way back. I was in a band that was looking for a deal in 2001, and we got pretty close - but then the towers fell and the record labels went pretty much silent. And with the advent of streaming, they never really recovered.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:24:37am

Just read a powerful story on Slate by a journalist who sat on a jury 21 years ago and put a kid in prison for life for a crime he probably didn’t commit. I encourage you to read it. slate.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:27:23am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Are these reporters highly credible? Mardi Gras is the one day wearing beads could be innocent. (Also a good day to play for deniability.)

True, but typically Mardi Gras beads are more colorful than that, more than one set is worn at the same time and also, is Mardi Gras that big in the Northeast?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:28:13am

OH HEY I JUST GOT 15,000 FOLLOWERS ON TWITTER!
This can randomly fluctuate though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:31:11am
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wrenchwench  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:33:40am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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get that fetus a lawyer.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:39:35am

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

True, but typically Mardi Gras beads are more colorful than that, more than one set is worn at the same time and also, is Mardi Gras that big in the Northeast?

Any excuse to get drunk carried as far as NYC when I was there. With any cooperation from the calendar, the hangover could flow right into St Patrick’s Day.

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:39:44am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

From the article:

The next step for Mager, Helms and Baby Roe is on April 1st, when the abortion clinic legally has to respond to the suit.

That is somehow fitting.

A few weeks ago, an episode of With Friends Like These really changed how I think about abortion - I’ve always been staunchly pro-choice mostly along the reasoning that the decision is best left to women and their doctors - but the guest presented the idea in a way that I’d never really thought about. To be pro-life or even pro-choice “with some exceptions” means that you are willing to have the law require women to be pregnant against their will. And if you believe in personal autonomy, that is a real problem.

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Archangelus  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:41:11am

re: #105 makeitstop

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:42:07am

re: #132 KGxvi

I suppose. But between being able to edit and mix a record on a lap top, and then release it on the iTunes, Google, and Amazon stores as digital, and being able to market on instagram, snapchat, and all the other social media platforms, I just wonder what the advantage of a “record deal” is today beyond getting on traditional radio (apparently it’s fairly easy to get on pandora and spotify now too).

Radio and TV are still the easiest means to get your name out, and the record labels are the best way to get there. If I wasn’t here, there are dozens of musicians I would have never heard about.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:46:00am

re: #123 jaunte

Sadism is the driving force amongst the right wing. Fear is the fuel. Sadism is the goal. It is their life force.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:49:55am
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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:51:01am

re: #100 Barefoot Grin

Chris Cillizza ✔
@CillizzaCNN
* 14h
The Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez backlash beginshttps://cnn.it

I read Cillizza’s newest The Point.

I think they need to rename it to What Is The Point?

There was none and very seldom is there a need to read it.

Ooooo, scary AOC. Will the presidential candidate be someone from the far left AOC-type politics, Joe Biden or someone in between?

Riveting!

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Old Liberal  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:51:05am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

They don’t care about victims of gun violence. They just offer empty thoughts and meaningless prayers. Not that I think all prayer is meaningless but they have the responsibility to do something and they do notta because the NRA owns them.

I want a Federsl Excise Tax on all guns and ammo. Process pay for victims medical expense, raising kids left behind, psychological therapy the whole gamut of societal costs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:54:06am
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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:56:14am

Rand Paul seems to think there will be at least 10 Republicans voting in favor of the emergency declaration termination bill:

“I think there will be 10 Republican ‘no’ votes. Possibly more,” Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said Monday. “If (you) look at the history of not only our government, but other governments around the world, governments that begin to be run by emergencies, really bad things can happen.”

I find this a very interesting aspect of the National Emergencies Act procedures. And I wonder how we can fix this from abuse in the future.

One thought that has occurred to me is to add a provision that says when the president declares a national emergency, it must be approved by Congress within a set number of days (maybe 14 if they’re in session or within 7 days upon returning from recess) - something similar to fast track authority, where the president can negotiate a trade deal and rather than requiring 2/3 Senate approval, it just needs simple majorities in both Houses.

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:58:13am

re: #148 Old Liberal

I want a Federsl Excise Tax on all guns and ammo. Process pay for victims medical expense, raising kids left behind, psychological therapy the whole gamut of societal costs.

That reminds me of Chris Rock on gun control (likely NSFW because, again, Chris Rock doing stand up):

Chris Rock on Gun Control

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2019 • 9:59:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:00:03am

hahahahahahahahahaahaaaa

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:01:48am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:04:55am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahahahahaahaaaa

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This is in reference to the number of Republicans who approve of Trump.

In other words Republicans who approve of other Republicans.

SMDH.

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:05:35am

Heh

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:05:56am

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

This is in reference to the number of Republicans who approve of Trump.

In other words Republicans who approve of other Republicans.

SMDH.

Also, likely no context for the fact that the number of people willing to self-identify as Republican is going down

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:06:49am

re: #158 KGxvi

Also, likely no context for the fact that the number of people willing to self-identify as Republican is going down

Yep, and the ones that still do are the MAGA cult.

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:09:12am

re: #158 KGxvi

To wit (and using simple math to identify the trend you posit):
300 polled, 100 identify as GOP, 80% approved (meaning 80 people of 300 were supporting Trump.
New poll: 300 polled, 50 polled identify as GOP, 90% approved (meaning 45 of 300 supported Trump).

Smaller pool of more committed extremists. This is the trend we’re seeing with the GOP. They’re more extreme/radicalized, and more committed to Trump. But it’s a smaller group.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:09:36am

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, and the ones that still do are the MAGA cult.

You forget that Republicans are working hard, led by stellar examples such as Brian Kemp of Georgia, to disenfranchise anyone who is not Republican. Just wait — only white males will vote and that will be enough to get Republicans elected every time.

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makeitstop  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:11:38am

This looks pretty cool.

CAPTIVE STATE Trailer 3 (2019)

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:13:06am
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Jay C  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:17:08am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

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So even if they ARE “after the President”, so what?
After all, if he’s not guilty, what does he have to worry about?
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PS: VB: Mazel Tov on getting your followers. If I had Facebook, I’d make it 15,001.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:18:33am

re: #164 Jay C

So even if they ARE “after the President”, so what?
After all, if he’s not guilty, what does he have to worry about?
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PS: VB: Mazel Tov on getting your followers. If I had Facebook, I’d make it 15,001.

It’s Twitter. I don’t do Facebook.

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Jay C  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:20:33am

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

It’s Twitter. I don’t do Facebook.

Sorry, my bad:

PS: VB: Mazel Tov on getting your followers. If I had Facebook Twitter, I’d make it 15,001.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:21:56am

WITCH HUNT! NO EVIDENCE!!!!

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sagehen  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:27:38am

re: #132 KGxvi

I suppose. But between being able to edit and mix a record on a lap top, and then release it on the iTunes, Google, and Amazon stores as digital, and being able to market on instagram, snapchat, and all the other social media platforms, I just wonder what the advantage of a “record deal” is today beyond getting on traditional radio (apparently it’s fairly easy to get on pandora and spotify now too).

Getting the opening slot on a major artist’s tour, or fill-in slots at major festivals. Making the best videos are expensive — how much value did Gary Clark Jr or Donald Glover’s most recent videos add to the songs? Beyonce’s records aren’t bad, but it’s the video production and staging her live shows that makes her a top artist. The label’s marketing department has ties to ad agencies and TV/movie producers to sell the songs to outlets that pay a lot. Getting reviewed in high-circulation magazines.

Until the 1950’s, musicians made most of their money from ticket sales. From the 1960’s through 1990’s their income was mostly record sales. Record sales and downloads are the least of their income for most musicians today — it’s either live performances, or sync licenses on TV/film/commercials.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:33:27am
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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:33:58am
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Alephnaught  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:40:30am

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

This is in reference to the number of Republicans who approve of Trump.

In other words Republicans who approve of other Republicans.

SMDH.

Was wondering if was that as soon as I saw the figures.

However, I couldn’t discount the possibility that he just made up the figure. That sums up his credibility as far as I’m concerned.

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Jay C  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:46:32am

re: #171 Alephnaught

Was wondering if was that as soon as I saw the figures.

However, I couldn’t discount the possibility that he just made up the figure. That sums up his credibility as far as I’m concerned.

Well, given Trump’s general level of credibility (i.e. zero) it’s always possible, but I actually don’t think the Moron-in-Chief is “making up” these numbers, but is rather recirculating something he’s been handed by his staff. It’s all utterly fearful bullshit, of course (the sampling was probably conducted at CPAC) - but it strokes his ego, so therefore “real news”…..

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:47:36am

re: #170 lawhawk

Love how luaP dnaR throws up the strawman of a mandatory flu vaccine.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:50:21am

re: #170 lawhawk

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Sir John Barron  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:51:32am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahahahahaahaaaa

You laugh, but let’s see a Democrat President with approval ratings that high among Republicans, OK?

/

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:51:45am
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sagehen  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:52:09am

re: #169 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

…Israeli spacecraft #Beresheet, launched two weeks ago…

So Hebrew speakers here… please translate “Beresheet”. Is it even vaguely similar to “B’shaert”?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:52:58am

re: #172 Jay C

Well, given Trump’s general level of credibility (i.e. zero) it’s always possible, but I actually don’t think the Moron-in-Chief is “making up” these numbers, but is rather recirculating something he’s been handed by his staff. It’s all utterly fearful bullshit, of course (the sampling was probably conducted at CPAC) - but it strokes his ego, so therefore “real news”…..

And outside of the GOP cocoon, Trump’s disapproval rating is growing again after he recovered somewhat from the shutdown debacle. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:53:29am

re: #176 lawhawk

Right.

The theory is that the Democrats hate Trump so much that they will do anything, including things that are unethical, illegal, immoral or any combination thereof to stop him from winning in 2020.

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:55:38am

re: #178 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And outside of the GOP cocoon, Trump’s disapproval rating is growing again after he recovered somewhat from the shutdown debacle. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

The pattern with Trump’s approval/disapproval numbers is fairly obvious. His approval numbers improve when he just shuts the fuck up. The moment he starts yelling at cloudstalking in public, and reminds people that he’s actually the cotdam president, his numbers drop.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:56:54am

re: #177 sagehen

So Hebrew speakers here… please translate “Beresheet”. Is it even vaguely similar to “B’shaert”?

First word of the bible: “in the beginning.”

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:58:15am

re: #181 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

First word of the bible: “in the beginning.”

Or, with more modern understanding of grammar, “when beginning… “

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:58:39am

re: #178 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Rasmussen, which is the only poll that Trump seems to tweet, is unable to get Trump to 50% approval.

The last two polls: 48% and 49% (going back several more and they never top 49%, respectively).

In other words, even the most generous polling and wording for Trump shows him underwater.

What’s pathetic is that so many people still approve of him despite all that is known about his criminal syndicate and all those already in prison, doing deals with prosecutors, or indicted (or waiting to be indicted).

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 10:59:35am

re: #177 sagehen

So Hebrew speakers here… please translate “Beresheet”. Is it even vaguely similar to “B’shaert”?

BERESHIT: In the beginning

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:00:21am

Kentucky will soon have a big drop in violent crime as criminals make rational calculations that more good guys with guns may be in their vicinity.//

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:00:45am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:05:12am

re: #176 lawhawk

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That’s why Trump is below 50% consistently. You’re a jackass:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:05:51am

re: #93 Joe Bacon 🌹

Phil Ochs told us we need a cross between Elvis and Che Guevara to mobilize the masses to revolution…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:06:33am

He’s simply not popular and bragging about his approval rating among his own party is pretty close to “But Ivanka still supports me!”

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:10:28am

re: #183 lawhawk

Rasmussen, which is the only poll that Trump seems to tweet, is unable to get Trump to 50% approval.

The last two polls: 48% and 49% (going back several more and they never top 49%, respectively).

In other words, even the most generous polling and wording for Trump shows him underwater.

What’s pathetic is that so many people still approve of him despite all that is known about his criminal syndicate and all those already in prison, doing deals with prosecutors, or indicted (or waiting to be indicted).

I think a decent amount of the support for him is a form of “well, the economy hasn’t tanked (yet).” Presidents always get too much credit and too much blame for the state of the economy. In Trump’s case, it’s probably giving him an extra 15-20% support that he wouldn’t have if we saw something like the mortgage crisis, or significant upticks in inflation and/or unemployment. And we’ve basically been redlining the economy for a couple of years, so, um, yeah…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:10:29am

re: #177 sagehen

So Hebrew speakers here… please translate “Beresheet”. Is it even vaguely similar to “B’shaert”?

I am assuming that “B’shaert” is Yiddish, and related to the German bescheuert for “daft”.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:10:42am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

Right.

The theory is that the Democrats hate Trump so much that they will do anything, including things that are unethical, illegal, immoral or any combination thereof to stop him from winning in 2020.

So they believe the Dems wil do what they did to defeat Hill in 2016.

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sagehen  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:12:18am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming that “B’shaert” is Yiddish, and related to the German bescheuert for “daft”.

no. a couple that’s b’shaert is meant-to-be, they’re soulmates who were destined to find each other.

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Skip Intro  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:12:21am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

That’s what ABC is supposed to point out but never does because all the media are just stenographers for the GOP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:12:24am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming that “B’shaert” is Yiddish, and related to the German bescheuert for “daft”.

“Bashert” in Yiddish means “destined to be”

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:13:15am

i’ve just arrived for the day

via politicalwire.com

“T-Mobile’s patronage of President Trump’s Washington hotel increased sharply after the announcement of its merger with its Sprint last April, with executives spending about $195,000 at the property since then, the company told congressional Democrats in a letter last month,” the Washington Post reports.

“Before news of the megadeal between rival companies broke on April 29, 2018, the company said, only two top officials from T-Mobile had ever stayed at Trump’s hotel, with one overnight stay each in August 2017.”

while this is no small thing - constitutionally, and that likely no other president has ever done before…….

$195k gross
helping to secure a mega merger
it’s fucking peanuts.

yeah i know multiply it by how many others are ‘pressured’ to stay at his properties

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:15:09am

re: #193 sagehen

no. a couple that’s b’shaert is meant-to-be, they’re soulmates who were destined to find each other.

same difference

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:16:50am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming that “B’shaert” is Yiddish, and related to the German bescheuert for “daft”.

B’shert באַשערט refers to a soulmate but is also translated as destiny.
Beresheet means in the beginning.

There’s a similar root ברא - created/creating. I’m a bit rusty on this, but I seem to recall that when G-d created the universe the soul was split in two, and it’s up to each one of us to find completion, hence the need for a soulmate who can help one become whole.

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:16:56am

re: #196 Man, DangerMan

i’ve just arrived for the day

via politicalwire.com

while this is no small thing - constitutionally, and that likely no other president has ever done before…….

$195k gross
helping to secure a mega merger
it’s fucking peanuts.

yeah i know multiply it by how many others are ‘pressured’ to stay at his properties

Combined revenue from Sprint and T-Mobile for 2017 was $73 billion. $195,000 isn’t even a rounding error in their annual reports.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:20:03am

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:21:58am

re: #177 sagehen

So Hebrew speakers here… please translate “Beresheet”. Is it even vaguely similar to “B’shaert”?

“Beresheet” redirects here. For other uses, see Bereishit (disambiguation):

Bereshit (help*info) or Bereishith is a Hebrew word (Hebrew: בְּרֵאשִׁית), the first word of the Torah. It literally means “at/in [the] head” and may be translated as “In the beginning…”

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:23:15am

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

The only true Hulk was the pre-CGI Hulk — Lou Ferrigno.

Who’s the voice of the Hulk in all of the movies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:23:16am

re: #198 lawhawk

B’shert באַשערט refers to a soulmate but is also translated as destiny.
Beresheet means in the beginning.

There’s a similar root ברא - created/creating. I’m a bit rusty on this, but I seem to recall that when G-d created the universe the soul was split in two, and it’s up to each one of us to find completion, hence the need for a soulmate who can help one become whole.

Ever since the first protoplasm separated in order to replicate, it has been searching for its cell, er, rather soulmate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:23:35am

re: #198 lawhawk

B’shert באַשערט refers to a soulmate but is also translated as destiny.
Beresheet means in the beginning.

There’s a similar root ברא - created/creating. I’m a bit rusty on this, but I seem to recall that when G-d created the universe the soul was split in two, and it’s up to each one of us to find completion, hence the need for a soulmate who can help one become whole.

Yiddish and Hebrew are two different languages. Hebrew is a Semitic language related to other Middle Eastern languages like Arabic and Aramaic. Yiddish is a Germanic language which contains a significant amount of words from Polish, Russian… and Hebrew.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:25:14am

Executive Time is over…..
Now he’s tweeting into a mike

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:25:48am

WELP looks like Roger may be headed back to the slammer

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:26:33am

there’s a ghoulish observation that could be made about the concealed carry with no permit or training bill also on his desk to be signed.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:28:02am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

WELP looks like Roger may be headed back to the slammer

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Knew he wouldn’t follow the gag order.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:28:17am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

WELP looks like Roger may be headed back to the slammer

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:29:12am

We are so fucked, part 2,349,587…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:30:01am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She’s getting frustrated with his bs. Not a smart tactic for Rog if he’s innocent and or a wronged man to piss off the judge.

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:31:26am

re: #199 KGxvi

Combined revenue from Sprint and T-Mobile for 2017 was $73 billion. $195,000 isn’t even a rounding error in their annual reports.

there’s an old joke - neil armstrong vs spiro agnew

neil was such an honest guy
he could have set him and his family up for 26 lifetimes
step on the moon and yell “coca-cola”

whereas agnew resigned over taking $10k in bribes
he would have put his foot on the moon and yelled “sam’s tailor shop, baltimore”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:32:09am

O_o

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:32:58am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Companies Falsely Labeled Products ‘Made in U.S.A.’ Their Financial Penalty from Trump’s FTC? $0. Democratic lawmakers angry.

Wonder that they don’t do that with MAGA hats…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:33:09am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Trump’s America first bs rhetoric is just that. If he was honest about what he was, he wouldn’t have made it far.

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:33:21am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

Trump would have to punish himself and his daughter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:34:12am

moron

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:34:21am

re: #216 Belafon

Trump would have to punish himself and his daughter.

Yep.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:34:47am

The guy who was kicked off Twitter is back on Twitter trying to get kicked off Twitter again.

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:35:12am

re: #212 Man, DangerMan

there’s an old joke - neil armstrong vs spiro agnew

neil was such an honest guy
he could have set him and his family up for 26 lifetimes
step on the moon and yell “coca-cola”

whereas agnew resigned over taking $10k in bribes
he would have put his foot on the moon and yelled “sam’s tailor shop, baltimore”

It actually made me think of Office Space and the rounding error scam getting out of control.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:35:49am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Yeah it’s because they lost that they’re upset that you gave your blatantly unqualified son in law power and access to confidential information. You, Jared, Ivanka, & the other two dimwits should be in prison.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:36:01am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming that “B’shaert” is Yiddish, and related to the German bescheuert for “daft”.

re: #193 sagehen

no. a couple that’s b’shaert is meant-to-be, they’re soulmates who were destined to find each other.

This reminds me of the double meaning of the title of the TV show Committed.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:36:12am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Sounds vaguely Ivanka-esque.

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:36:56am

re: #185 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Kentucky will soon have a big drop in violent crime as criminals make rational calculations that more good guys with guns may be in their vicinity.//

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When does the first outright pissed off bubbas shoot out in the streets take place?

It is going to happen.

Sometimes bar fights spill out on the streets and get rather out of hand. Add in guns for both parties, the bouncers and the cops coming on a call and you have a real shoot-em out.

Or two idiots get in a fight over someone cutting them off in traffic…out come the guns and who knows who all gets shot up in the melee.

This fucking country and guns. It is getting to the point where people are going to be fearful to go out to a public place.

Good thing for movie streaming, You Tubes of music shows and Grubhub to deliver your restaurant experience.

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:37:29am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

WELP looks like Roger may be headed back to the slammer

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Not soon enough.

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Archangelus  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:38:55am

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

BERESHIT: In the beginning

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:40:21am

re: #226 Archangelus

Does a Bereshit in the woods?

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:41:07am

Adam Silverman does the work of actually watching what Rep. Omar said, and:

Congresswoman Omar gives a very long and very detailed answer beginning at the 28:30 mark in the video that is, perhaps, one of the best assessments and critiques I’ve ever seen an elected or appointed American official make of US foreign policy, including the national security portions of it. She is clearly informed, she’s clearly given this a lot of thought, and what she’s saying is both accurate and something that needs to be heard. And you’ll notice that she references consulting with Secretary Albright! It is at the 45:30 mark that she lays down her first marker by stating that “you may want to see me as a Somali-American, but I am a member of Congress”. This establishes the foundation for her later remarks about allegiance. Omar’s remarks that have caused so much sturm and drang begin at 59:26 and follow Congresswoman Tlaib’s remarks for thanking Jewish allies for standing up and being supportive of both the broad call for human rights and the specific one regarding doing something to improve the current existence of the Palestinians. I recommend that everyone who has not actually watched the video to take a moment and watch at least Congresswoman Omar’s remarks that begin at 59:26 if not both of her extended remarks. She didn’t say anything anti-Semitic. In fact she goes out of her way to contextualize her remarks so that they aren’t. You’ll also notice that her colleagues Congresswoman Jayapal and Congressman Pocan aren’t reacting negatively in real time to her remarks. Congresswoman Omar also made it clear in her remarks that she was anticipating the response that she has received.

The video can be found here: facebook.com.

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:41:31am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does a Bereshit in the woods?

But would you hear it if it fell?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:41:33am

re: #225 MsJ

Not soon enough.

Roger is someone who doesn’t believe in the rule of law. The judge has been way too patient on this. All he will do is continue to test the limits. His word is worthless.

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William Lewis  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:41:40am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does a Bereshit in the woods?

Only to begin with?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:42:52am

re: #228 Belafon

Adam Silverman does the work of actually watching what Rep. Omar said, and:

.

Republicans do not listen to Democrats, or to any woman, especially if she is wearing a headscarf.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:43:59am

Well, speaking of criminals,

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:47:16am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

Well, speaking of criminals,

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:47:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:47:51am

sigh…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:49:05am

re: #235 Belafon

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Dems are forced to condemn Farrakhan. Yet no one in the GOP has to condemn this pathetic sob and he’s a close ally of POTUS.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:49:32am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

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Because Mitch is Team GOP all the way.

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:50:02am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

McConnell isn’t saying it’s constitutional. He’s just saying he doesn’t care.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:50:30am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:51:50am

I would be pay a tidy sum if it meant I got to punch Mitch in the face a few times.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:52:35am

heads up Decatur Deb!

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:54:18am

re: #108 lawhawk

re: #109 makeitstop

i just happened to post this on the last thread last night

We’re watching Fyre. Documentary about the disaster of a festival

It’s the trump admin

One guy in the center who lies, frauds and won’t take no for an answer
Surrounded by people who won’t tell him no
Leaving all the small people to not get paid and to take massive direct losses too

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:55:00am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cummings FTW.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:55:36am

re: #73 Belafon

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Jonathan Chait is one of the “progressives” leading the charge against her.

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:56:31am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

Trump complained to reporters in Roosevelt Room that Democrats, instead of doing infrastructure or health care, “want to play games.”
“It’s too bad,” he said.
He declined to answer other questions from the press, gathered for a veterans’ suicide prevention event.

the house has more than one function
and it delegates pretty well so it can do more than one thing at a time

is your conclusion because you can’t think of more than one thing at a time?

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:58:46am

re: #229 lawhawk

But would you hear it if it fell?

The bear or the bear droppings???

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:59:07am

WTFITS

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Decatur Deb  Mar 5, 2019 • 11:59:24am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

Well, speaking of criminals,

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Note that “Pittsburg” was spelled without its “h” at that time. (The “h” came and went in official usage.)

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:01:16pm

This seems not great for Israel:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:01:17pm

previous senator was D. He retired.
District 31 is deep eastern Kentucky…serious coal country. Hatfield-McCoy home stomping grounds

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:02:38pm

re: #235 Belafon

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I’m sure Jesus Christ would have been packing a gun.

Hell, he might have been able to fight off the Romans and gotten out of Judea.

Where would Christianity be then, huh?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:03:05pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

Trump complained to reporters in Roosevelt Room that Democrats, instead of doing infrastructure or health care, “want to play games.”
“It’s too bad,” he said.
He declined to answer other questions from the press, gathered for a veterans’ suicide prevention event.

And what has his administration or the GOP ever proposed on infrastructure or a real health care plan? They had 2 years to deal with those issues, but all they cared about was depriving people of health care and passing tax cuts that benefited the wealthy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:03:18pm

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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Yeah lady, teachers should totally work for free. Go fuck yourself, you ungrateful for teachers, witch.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:03:44pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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previous senator was D. He retired.
District 31 is deep eastern Kentucky…serious coal country. Hatfield-McCoy home stomping grounds

Is it AOC’s fault if we lose?//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:04:30pm

re: #254 HappyWarrior

Yeah lady, teachers should totally work for free. Go fuck yourself, you ungrateful for teachers, witch.

Anyone who works for the government is getting a handout, says state Representative…

They really just cannot hear their own words.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:04:34pm
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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:05:05pm

re: #247 ObserverArt

Yes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:05:10pm

re: #250 Barefoot Grin

This seems not great for Israel:

Netanyahu has formed an alliance with Kahanists, a political formation that has a history of anti-Arab and anti-black bigotry as well as political violence in both the United States and Israel. How many American politicians have condemned this?

They had Menachem fucking Begin for Prime Minister! How many American politicians condemned that?

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:05:30pm

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

West Virginia Republican Senator Lynne Arvon heard stating that teacher’s salaries are handouts and those days are over. WTF? Make this go viral people! Let’s see how many people think that a salary is a handout!

the logic is since the state pays it, it’s a handout, not an exchange in the open market of wages for services (even though one of the parties is the state

as in their minds, is social security / medicare

in fact by that logic, tax refunds are handouts

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Citizen K  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:06:25pm

Passed along from a friend in Florida. This is…..holy fuck.

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Old Liberal  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:07:42pm

re: #172 Jay C

Well, given Trump’s general level of credibility (i.e. zero) it’s always possible, but I actually don’t think the Moron-in-Chief is “making up” these numbers, but is rather recirculating something he’s been handed by his staff. It’s all utterly fearful bullshit, of course (the sampling was probably conducted at CPAC) - but it strokes his ego, so therefore “real news”…..

When I worked in media a station would trumpet WE’RE #1 and in small print “among men 25-64 between 9-10pm weekends”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:08:04pm

By this idiots logic, the troops are getting handouts. It’d be nice if more military members realized the true contempt the GOP and right had for them.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:08:45pm

re: #260 Man, DangerMan

the logic is since the state pays it, it’s a handout, not an exchange in the open market of wages for services (even though one of the parties is the state

as in their minds, is social security / medicare

in fact by that logic, tax refunds are handouts

Boil it in a pot, what do you get?
TEH FREE STUFF!!!11!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:09:46pm

leaving this thread here for BeachDem:

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:10:42pm

re: #260 Man, DangerMan

the logic is since the state pays it, it’s a handout, not an exchange in the open market of wages for services (even though one of the parties is the state

as in their minds, is social security / medicare

in fact by that logic, tax refunds are handouts

Are WV legislators unsalaried?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:12:05pm

re: #266 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Are WV legislators unsalaried?

$20,000/year plus per diem ($131/day in session)

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:12:16pm

re: #261 Citizen K

Passed along from a friend in Florida. This is…..holy fuck.

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we dont call it Lake Worst for nothing

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:12:56pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

$20,000/year plus per diem ($131/day in session)

for what is considered a part-time job

like schoolteaching…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:13:07pm
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ckkatz  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:13:15pm

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Note that “Pittsburg” was spelled without its “h” at that time. (The “h” came and went in official usage.)

I figured that, as a native of the ‘burg(h)’, you would pick up on that. Iirc, officially, the ‘h’ was added in 1911. But the spelling argument continued into the 1920’s.

Sounds like the pawnshop was in the lower Northside. Interestingly, I think that it was actually in the City of Allegheny, which wasn’t annexed into Pittsburg(h) until 1907.

Edit - Correction - The boardinghouse was on Fulton Street in Manchester District/Lower North Side/Old Allegheny City. The pawnshop was in Wilkensburg.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:13:32pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

leaving this thread here for BeachDem:

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A lot of interesting observations there. I agree that we can’t take Biden as being electable for granted and I have similar observations about Warren not just with the family history stuff but also the “rigged” talked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:15:50pm

:D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:18:29pm
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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:18:45pm

Another in the revolving door Trumpworld.. FDA chief is heading for the exit.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:21:25pm
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MsJ  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:22:03pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

leaving this thread here for BeachDem:

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Fascinating insight. Thanks for posting that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:23:10pm

kimberly has apparently clutched her pearls once too often…

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lawhawk  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:24:58pm

Stone is likely to find out that next week is his last as a free man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:25:17pm

kimberly also likes to make up stuff

come on kimberly…show us more photo evidence of men wearing pearls

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:26:38pm
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Citizen K  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:27:26pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m sure the GOP supermajority there will be well and on fixing that problem there.

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:28:33pm

re: #272 HappyWarrior

A lot of interesting observations there. I agree that we can’t take Biden as being electable for granted and I have similar observations about Warren not just with the family history stuff but also the “rigged” talked.

This is a totally superficial and trite criticism I have of Warren, but…

Whenever I hear Warren speak, she sounds to me like a kindergarten teacher.

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sagehen  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:29:38pm

re: #259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They had Menachem fucking Begin for Prime Minister! How many American politicians condemned that?

Menachem Begin by that time had changed DRASTICALLY from who he’d been in the 1940’s. Not a fair comparison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:30:16pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:30:30pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

kimberly also likes to make up stuff

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come on kimberly…show us more photo evidence of men wearing pearls

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:31:22pm

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

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those are the ones kimberly is already defending

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Chrysicat  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:31:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:33:40pm
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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:35:11pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

Which cable/satellite provider does the White House use? For the good of the countryworld whoever it is needs to drop FNC

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:36:15pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

:D

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:39:44pm

re: #284 sagehen

Menachem Begin by that time had changed DRASTICALLY from who he’d been in the 1940’s. Not a fair comparison.

So if the leader of the Bologna train station bombing (the first terrorist atrocity to break Begin’s death toll) became Prime Minister of Italy, that would be all right as long as he’d “changed drastically”?

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KGxvi  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:39:58pm

re: #291 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I could maybe imagine it with a young Jerry Brown, but he became governor the first time before I was born.

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:45:31pm

re: #276 Dave In Austin

More proof that Republicans can’t tell the difference between revenue and spending.

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sagehen  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:51:03pm

re: #292 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So if the leader of the Bologna train station bombing (the first terrorist atrocity to break Begin’s death toll) became Prime Minister of Italy, that would be all right as long as he’d “changed drastically”?

Bombing an occupying army’s military headquarters, during a war, after telephoning multiple warnings and urging evacuation… is a very different thing than a disgruntled domestic faction attacking civilian targets of a sovereign nation.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 5, 2019 • 12:58:06pm

re: #295 sagehen

Bombing an occupying army’s military headquarters, during a war, after telephoning multiple warnings and urging evacuation… is a very different thing than a disgruntled domestic faction attacking civilian targets of a sovereign nation.

What “war”? The only war was the war created by the terrorists.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 5, 2019 • 1:08:49pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 5, 2019 • 1:32:52pm

re: #252 ObserverArt

I’m sure Jesus Christ would have been packing a gun.

Hell, he might have been able to fight off the Romans and gotten out of Judea.

Where would Christianity be then, huh?

Would Jesus wear a Rolex on his TV show?


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