The Bob Cesca Podcast: The Goth Ninjas

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

The Goth Ninjas — NSFW; Jody Hamilton from the Stephanie Miller Show and David Ferguson from the TRex Report podcast are here; Alex Trebek diagnosed with pancreatic cancer; A message to our Baby Boomer listeners; Michael Cohen’s suitcase of documents; Trump is a festering carbuncle; Rudy Giuliani is back; Rudy and Pardons; ‘Leaving Neverland’ and child sexual abuse; A conservative PAC is creating fake news websites; and so much more.

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485 comments

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:25:41pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:38:46pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:41:24pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

Hey, dairy is good for gout!

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:43:37pm
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Belafon  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:44:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:49:02pm

re: #5 Belafon

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re: #5 Belafon

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Yet you’re fine with your party using Omar to tar Dems as Antisemitic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:54:37pm

The Great White Wing Conspiracy Machine is now giving OAC the HRC treatment

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:57:49pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

The Great White Wing Conspiracy Machine is now giving OAC the HRC treatment

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They’re starting early.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 7, 2019 • 5:59:11pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

The Great White Wing Conspiracy Machine is now giving OAC the HRC treatment

LOL I meant Vast Right Wing Conspiracy but my fingers typed what was in my subconscious brain stem.

Also, whatever DailyCaller and these other RWNJ’s are accusing AOC, and it’s pretty specific, they are PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX IN OUTER SPACE… SPACE… SPACE…

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:00:05pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

They’re starting early.

She’s grown too powerful. The best part is that it’s partially because of them. If they’d just left her alone, she would have been a steadier than average freshman Congressperson, but not someone that the party is forced to listen to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:02:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:02:52pm

re: #10 Belafon

She’s grown too powerful. The best part is that it’s partially because of them. If they’d just left her alone, she would have been a steadier than average freshman Congressperson, but not someone that the party is forced to listen to.

Yeah they’re contributing to making her a household name.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:05:37pm

I think trump will commute his sentence. Something about compassion BS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:09:29pm

Here is what it is like to be Old.

I have a box of GS Thin Mints in the pantry and I thought I would go downstairs and grab some. But when I got to the bottom of the stairs I forgot why I came down! I only knew it had something to do with a snack. So I looked in the fridge (wrong place) and saw a bunch of mandarines so I took some.

Then when I finished eating the mandarines I realized that I really wanted the cookies but I don’t want to go downstairs again because my feet hurt. But the mandarines are much healthier so there’s that.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:11:42pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

They’re starting early.

She’s young. They have to start now so people will really hate her by the time she decides to run for president.

/ (half)

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:13:51pm
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Jay C  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:19:32pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Here is what it is like to be Old.

I have a box of GS Thin Mints in the pantry and I thought I would go downstairs and grab some. But when I got to the bottom of the stairs I forgot why I came down! I only knew it had something to do with a snack. So I looked in the fridge (wrong place) and saw a bunch of mandarines so I took some.

Then when I finished eating the mandarines I realized that I really wanted the cookies but I don’t want to go downstairs again because my feet hurt. But the mandarines are much healthier so there’s that.

One positive: at least you could get back up the stairs….
(And yes, fruit is better for you)

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TedStriker  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:22:24pm

re: #15 makeitstop

She’s young. They have to start now so people will really hate her by the time she decides to run for president.

/ (half)

No need for sarc at all, because I have no doubt that’s exactly why the RWNJs are already going full-bore on AOC; she scares the fuck out of them just like Hillary does, so they’re trying to employ the exact same playbook to demonize her and poison the electorate against her, because it worked beyond their wildest dreams against Hillary.

Thing is, AOC is not Hillary, so the RWNJ noise machine is having some problems there.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:23:12pm

LEAKED! Top secret photograph shows NASA re-positioning “the Moon” for another fake eclipse!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:26:24pm

BETSY DEVOS BELONGS IN JAIL OR IN A TUMBREL ON THE WAY TO THE GUILLOTINE

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:29:35pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:29:43pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

This is just the free market (TM) operating as intended. Prosperity Gospel Jesus approves.

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EPR-radar  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:30:50pm

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

+1 to Sanders for me. But he’s still got a hole he needs to get out of.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:30:57pm

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gwangung  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:35:54pm

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

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THAT is one sentiment we’re all on board for.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:36:52pm

I got to play in some of this “historic” snow at Aspen Highlands today. Two feet of snow in 24 hours, five feet in four days.

Instagram

Highland Bowl was all time today.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:37:32pm

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

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Ha. That’s a good response. Watch Trump whine.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:40:01pm

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

Reminds me of the scene in Lincoln where Lincoln pays a surprise visit to the 2 sleazy lobbyists who are helping to get the Thirteenth Amendment passed. One of the sleazoids, startled by Lincoln’s unannounced appearance, jumps up and blurts out, “Well, I’ll be fucked!”
Lincoln laconically replies, “Seems likely,” then goes on with his business.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:50:29pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Reminds me of the scene in Lincoln where Lincoln pays a surprise visit to the 2 sleazy lobbyists who are helping to get the Thirteenth Amendment passed. One of the sleazoids, startled by Lincoln’s unannounced appearance, jumps up and blurts out, “Well, I’ll be fucked!”
Lincoln laconically replies, “Seems likely,” then goes on with his business.

That was a good movie. I still would love an outright Lincoln bio epic but that movie was great.

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:51:21pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Ha. That’s a good response. Watch Trump whine.

Naaah, he’d just tweet some faux-concerned bullshit about Rude Bernie’s bad language; though probably closing with some sneery snark about “socialism” or whatever.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2019 • 6:53:14pm

re: #30 Jay C

Naaah, he’d just tweet some faux-concerned bullshit about Rude Bernie’s bad language; though probably closing with some sneery snark about “socialism” or whatever.

Right. He’s going to whine about the language and how everyone is just nasty to him.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:05:09pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:12:34pm
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:14:16pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

This is just the free market (TM) operating as intended. Prosperity Gospel Jesus approves.

Ironic you should say that; in the article, it notes that the Foursquare Church has a hand in this.

Founded by this lady: en.wikipedia.org

who founded Angelus Temple (one of the first megachurches) and was notorious in L.A. for faking her own kidnapping to explain her absence while she was having an affair with a staff member.

I grew up hearing about her from my dad - he used to ridicule her followers as “holy rollers” and told me, “Those folks are up to no damn good. Buncha con artists, starting with Sister Aimee.”

Heh.

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Semper Fi  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:17:20pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Here is what it is like to be Old.

I have a box of GS Thin Mints in the pantry and I thought I would go downstairs and grab some. But when I got to the bottom of the stairs I forgot why I came down! I only knew it had something to do with a snack. So I looked in the fridge (wrong place) and saw a bunch of mandarines so I took some.

Then when I finished eating the mandarines I realized that I really wanted the cookies but I don’t want to go downstairs again because my feet hurt. But the mandarines are much healthier so there’s that.

For me, this is life and I just smile.
Also, I like to place items that I occasionally use in a logical and easy to find location when next needed. It is those items that seemingly disappear.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:22:05pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

The Great White Wing Conspiracy Machine is now giving OAC the HRC treatment

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And her response was spot-on accurate. Let’s see if the “Liberal Media” reports it as such.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:27:43pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

I got to play in some of this “historic” snow at Aspen Highlands today. Two feet of snow in 24 hours, five feet in four days.

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Powder or cement?

By the way, have they gotten I-70 completely cleared yet? I assume so. Too much money if it’s not cleared ASAP. That was some breathtaking video.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:32:11pm

re: #37 austin_blue

Powder or cement?

By the way, have they gotten I-70 completely cleared yet? I assume so. Too much money if it’s not cleared ASAP. That was some breathtaking video.

It was not cold smoke, it was wet ‘n’ heavy.

I-70 opened through the mountains about two hours ago. Truck traffic has taken a pretty big hit.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:40:24pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:50:35pm

In my pretty-well-curated twitter, I follow some other wenches.

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:54:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:57:28pm

re: #41 gocart mozart

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Don Jr is a miserable little man isn’t he? He has no idea who Schiff really is.

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garzooma  Mar 7, 2019 • 7:59:45pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Here is what it is like to be Old.

I have a box of GS Thin Mints in the pantry and I thought I would go downstairs and grab some. But when I got to the bottom of the stairs I forgot why I came down! I only knew it had something to do with a snack. So I looked in the fridge (wrong place) and saw a bunch of mandarines so I took some.

Then when I finished eating the mandarines I realized that I really wanted the cookies but I don’t want to go downstairs again because my feet hurt. But the mandarines are much healthier so there’s that.

I’m at the stage of my life that I ask myself questions like “Why am I here?” Not in the philosophical sense, but as in “Why am I in the basement?”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:04:11pm

So, Manafort only got a little less than four years for his crimes.

And they say crime doesn’t pay? LOL. It’s a laughable slap on the wrist. Hopefully, he’ll get more serious time in the not-too-distant future.

Maybe they can make a biopic about Manafort: I’d suggest they call it The Unbearable Whiteness of Being.

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Interesting Times  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:12:54pm

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Maybe they can make a biopic about Manafort: I’d suggest they call it The Unbearable Whiteness of Being.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:23:46pm

Finally read The Making of the Fox News White House.

We are so boned.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:25:26pm
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retired cynic  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:28:16pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

I ought to join twitter, just to follow her.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:29:07pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

It was not cold smoke, it was wet ‘n’ heavy.

I-70 opened through the mountains about two hours ago. Truck traffic has taken a pretty big hit.

Aren’t you west of the divide this year? Five feet of cement means a lot of water later this spring for the Colorado.

And I gotta say, the snow this year has changed you much for the better. We were all just on tenterhooks a year ago, not knowing if you were going to snuff it. You without steady work was a very unhappy teleskiguy.

I am so happy for you!

Oh, and about a quarter of a million of my best friends are arriving from around the world to attend SXSW. Unfortunately, many of them are parking in my neighborhood.

If they physically block my driveway, I take a marlin hook and punch their inner sidewalls. That’ll show ‘em.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:30:52pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

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Right on

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:31:11pm

re: #43 garzooma

I’m at the stage of my life that I ask myself questions like “Why am I here?” Not in the philosophical sense, but as in “Why am I in the basement?”

So do I, and then realize my house doesn’t have a basement.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:33:03pm

re: #51 austin_blue

So do I, and then realize my house doesn’t have a basement.

Giphy

Giphy

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:33:24pm

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

So, Manafort only got a little less than four years for his crimes.

And they say crime doesn’t pay? LOL. It’s a laughable slap on the wrist. Hopefully, he’ll get more serious time in the not-too-distant future.

Maybe they can make a biopic about Manafort: I’d suggest they call it The Unbearable Whiteness of Being.

That’s funny! But then again, they got him where he really lives, fining him like twenty bazillion dollars, which has pretty much paid for the Mueller investigation.

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:35:57pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

Just a thought on AOC’s mad Twitter skills. I think it’s unfair to compare the other freshman to her. She’s in a league of her own. I’m nowhere close. I’m lucky to be in the same building when she’s in her game.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:36:22pm

re: #53 austin_blue

That’s funny! But then again, they got him where he really lives, fining him like twenty bazillion dollars, which has pretty much paid for theMueller investigation.

True - hitting him in the pocketbook might actually be worse as far as Manafort’s concerned. He probably figures he can do a few years in the slammer (and maybe less if Trump pardons him) but taking away all his money? For someone like Manafort, that’s probably worse than getting a death sentence.

I understand he’s still looking at prison time for other crimes, so maybe he’ll get another 10 years or so tacked on to what he got here.

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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:36:24pm

re: #48 retired cynic

I ought to join twitter, just to follow her.

That would be a well=curated twitter feed.

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:37:22pm
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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:38:55pm

re: #54 Belafon

Just a thought on AOC’s mad Twitter skills. I think it’s unfair to compare the other freshman to her. She’s in a league of her own. I’m nowhere close. I’m lucky to be in the same building when she’s in her game.

She’s concise, factual, clever, and knows exactly where to slip the knife in between the ribs.

Impressive.

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coin operated  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:44:07pm

Y’know…re: #55 Dr Lizardo

True - hitting him in the pocketbook might actually be worse as far as Manafort’s concerned.

This. And it’s a helpful tip when wingers try to say that Mueller is wasting money with this investigation. Dumbass…unlike Benghazi, this federal investigation has actually turned a profit ;-)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 7, 2019 • 8:54:15pm

If any Lizards reside in the Vancouver, Washington metro area - and you’re unsure of your MMR vaccine status (or know someone who is, or know a kid who has yet to be vaccinated), Immunize Oregon is crossing the bridge to provide free MMR vaccines - no ID, no insurance required.

immunizeor.org

Glad to see that.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:03:42pm

Four more cars got buried in avalanches today in Colorado. All persons accounted for, no one was hurt.

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retired cynic  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:05:40pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

Four more cars got buried in avalanches today in Colorado. All person acounted for, no one was hurt.

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unbelievable….

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:06:07pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

“I think it’s pretty safe to say that nobody that is alive has seen a week like this,” Greene said, adding that he expected CAIC forecasters to be busy for the next week.

thedenverchannel.com

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:10:15pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

Four more cars got buried in avalanches today in Colorado. All persons accounted for, no one was hurt.

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It’s been a hell of a snow season, hasn’t it? This heavy, wet snow, falling so late, is just dangerous as hell.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:12:33pm

re: #64 austin_blue

It’s been a hell of a snow season, hasn’t it? This heavy, wet snow, falling so late, is just dangerous as hell.

We’ve got a very serious deep persistent slab problem in our snowpack. There’s a very rotten layer of faceted snow at the surface. It’s already killed five guys in the Colorado backcountry this winter.

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mmmirele  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:16:27pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

BETSY DEVOS BELONGS IN JAIL OR IN A TUMBREL ON THE WAY TO THE GUILLOTINE

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Of course it’s affiliated with a “Pentecostal megachurch” in California. I’d note that “Dream Center” is the name of the church in LA, but its sister/mother church is called Dream City Church here in Phoenix, it’s a megachurch, and it’s run by the son (Luke Barnett) of the guy who started Dream Center LA (Tommy Barnett), although the Phoenix church came before the LA church. There is a guy, David Halperin, who has been investigating this for some time, before Dream Center Holding Company bought the Art Institutes, Argosy and Western State College of Law, from the perspective of Betsy DeVos allowing businesses like this to stiff students. (republicreport.org) I sent him an email today asking if he’d looked into the possibility that there were “shenanigans” around a church-owned corporation in the for-profit ed business. I’ve not heard back from him. Hopefully it’s something he’s going to look into.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:16:32pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

We’ve got a very serious deep persistent slab problem in our snowpack. There’s a very rotten layer of faceted snow at the surface. It’s already killed five guys in the Colorado backcountry this winter.

Just to be clear, you are talking cement on powder, yes? And once it cuts loose, it glides over the powder, picks up speed, and slams into anything downhill with tremendous force and mass?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:17:22pm
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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:19:03pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

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Well, that’s disturbing.

Does anyone have any spare brain bleach lying around?

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TedStriker  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:22:25pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

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re: #69 austin_blue

Well, that’s disturbing.

Does anyone have any spare brain bleach lying around?

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:23:11pm

re: #67 austin_blue

Just to be clear, you are talking cement on powder, yes? And once it cuts loose, it glides over the powder, picks up speed, and slams into anything downhill with tremendous force and mass?

Eh, it’s a little more complex than that. That faceted layer at the surface (the bare ground) I was referring to was snow that fell in October and November, and its texture is very crystally, like sugar. And now there’s five to ten feet of snow from about a dozen different storm cycles and days of sunshine on top of that. The moisture content of the snow we’ve gotten in this last storm cycle (which was high, you refer to it as ‘cement’ I beg to differ, I would call it schlarvy vicousness) certainly doesn’t help, and we’ve gotten A LOT of it up high. That’s too much weight for the snowpack that we have. Every path that can slide slid in most places, naturally.

Oh, and the valley floors? It’s been raining.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:25:57pm

Colorado Avalanche Information Center knows how to talk to its people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:27:23pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

Colorado Avalanche Information Center knows how to talk to its people.

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Hahahahaha. Now that’s on point.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:28:27pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Ironic you should say that; in the article, it notes that the Foursquare Church has a hand in this.

Founded by this lady: en.wikipedia.org

who founded Angelus Temple (one of the first megachurches) and was notorious in L.A. for faking her own kidnapping to explain her absence while she was having an affair with a staff member.

I grew up hearing about her from my dad - he used to ridicule her followers as “holy rollers” and told me, “Those folks are up to no damn good. Buncha con artists, starting with Sister Aimee.”

Heh.

Oh I know that cult very well since my insane Aunt worshipped in one of those brainwashing centers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:30:01pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:30:33pm

I hate this fucking timeline.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:32:19pm

Just a reminder who Michael Tracey chats with ever since Auntie Maxine smacked him down!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:47:46pm

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

I hate this fucking timeline.

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So Judge Ellis gives light sentences to white white collar criminals. Or is it just to Republican white collar criminals?

Our former governor Rod Blagojevich, an imbecile if ever there were one, was sentenced to 14 years for a far less substantial offense but Ellis was not involved in that case.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 9:52:48pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

Eh, it’s a little more complex than that. That faceted layer at the surface (the bare ground) I was referring to was snow that fell in October and November, and its texture is very crystally, like sugar. And now there’s five to ten feet of snow from about a dozen different storm cycles and days of sunshine on top of that. The moisture content of the snow we’ve gotten in this last storm cycle (which was high, you refer to it as ‘cement’ I beg to differ, I would call it schlarvy vicousness) certainly doesn’t help, and we’ve gotten A LOT of it up high. That’s too much weight for the snowpack that we have. Every path that can slide slid in most places, naturally.

Oh, and the valley floors? It’s been raining.

Ah, got it. My da was born and raised in Denver and was a powder freak. His favorite hill was A-Basin.

It sounds like that if this late season trend continues, it’s going to continue to be a very dangerous March. I see there’s another system coming through this weekend.

Dang! (checking NWS)

Loveland Pass got +/- 17” yesterday and is under another winter storm warning tonight and tomorrow.

Harsh.

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plansbandc  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:03:12pm

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

What a surprise.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:05:05pm
Eh, it’s a little more complex than that. That faceted layer at the surface (the bare ground) I was referring to was snow that fell in October and November, and its texture is very crystally, like sugar. And now there’s five to ten feet of snow from about a dozen different storm cycles and days of sunshine on top of that. The moisture content of the snow we’ve gotten in this last storm cycle (which was high, you refer to it as ‘cement’ I beg to differ, I would call it schlarvy vicousness) certainly doesn’t help, and we’ve gotten A LOT of it up high. That’s too much weight for the snowpack that we have. Every path that can slide slid in most places, naturally.

Oh, and the valley floors? It’s been raining.

Ah, got it. My da was born and raised in Denver and was a powder freak. His favorite hill was A-Basin.

It sounds like that if this late season trend continues, it’s going to continue to be a very dangerous march. I see there’s another system coming through this weekend.

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Chrysicat  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:12:43pm

This snarker wins the internet for all time:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:15:36pm

In Manafort’s otherwise blameless life: theatlantic.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:19:51pm

re: #10 Belafon

She’s grown too powerful. The best part is that it’s partially because of them. If they’d just left her alone, she would have been a steadier than average freshman Congressperson, but not someone that the party is forced to listen to.

Not only is she ethic, urban and female, she is also hot and gives them a boner. That gets them even more worked up because they know there is no way they’re ever going to nail her…

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:20:18pm

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

I hate this fucking timeline.

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I don’t want to get into an argument about this, and I will agree that the prison time for Jefferson and Manafort are inappropriate, but Jefferson was a flat out crook who used his office to make money. I lived in New Orleans when he ran for Mayor and got a flyer that said that his opponent, being creole (mixed race) was not Negro enough to be elected. He was also caught with several tens of thousands of dollars in Zip-Lock bags in his freezer at his house. He was totally on the grift.

He deserved what he got. Manafort deserved more than he got.

Don’t try to make Jefferson some kind of martyr. He was filthy.

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TedStriker  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:33:56pm

re: #85 austin_blue

I don’t want to get into an argument about this, and I will agree that the prison time for Jefferson and Manafort are inappropriate, but Jefferson was a flat out crook who used his office to make money. I lived in New Orleans when he ran for Mayor and got a flyer that said that his opponent, being creole (mixed race) was not Negro enough to be elected. He was also caught with several tens of thousands of dollars in Zip-Lock bags in his freezer at his house. He was totally on the grift.

He deserved what he got. Manafort deserved more than he got.

Don’t try to make Jefferson some kind of martyr. He was filthy.

And I’ll up it a bit more: both deserve way more time in prison than they got (and hopefully Manafort gets a lot more in the sentencing on his other trial).

Jefferson, as you said, was a fucking master of graft, honed and perfected over decades in office; for that gross violation of his office and of the public trust, thirteen years was fucking light.

That said, the stark difference in their sentences does give ample reason for pause.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:36:51pm

re: #86 TedStriker

And I’ll up it a bit more: both deserve way more time in prison than they got (and hopefully Manafort gets a lot more in the sentencing on his other trial).

Jefferson, as you said, was a fucking master of graft, honed and perfected over decades in office; for that gross violation of his office and of the public trust, thirteen years was fucking light.

I am more annoyed about the Archbishop of Lyon, who got a six-month suspended sentence for covering up child-abuse cases.

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TedStriker  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:41:40pm

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am more annoyed about the Archbishop of Lyon, who got a six-month suspended sentence for covering up child-abuse cases.

That’s bullshit, but it doesn’t surprise me at all, even now after all of these years of the Catholic Church’s worldwide coverups getting blown up.

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sagehen  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:48:22pm

re: #86 TedStriker

And I’ll up it a bit more: both deserve way more time in prison than they got (and hopefully Manafort gets a lot more in the sentencing on his other trial).

Jefferson, as you said, was a fucking master of graft, honed and perfected over decades in office; for that gross violation of his office and of the public trust, thirteen years was fucking light.

That said, the stark difference in their sentences does give ample reason for pause.

Duke Cunningham (California congressman; until Jefferson he had the longest sentence for a crooked congressman)…

Sold his house for about double market value, to a brand-new start-up defense contractor. Used the money to buy a new house (bigger house, more desirable location) for about half market value, from another brand-new start-up defense contractor. Then, both of these brand-new start-up defense contractors got enormous no-bid cost-plus contracts from the subcommittee he chaired.

How he got caught — a journalist for his local paper got curious when he heard Cunningham had moved. Pulled the real estate records, realized the declared prices were way off base for comparables in those neighborhoods, looked into the other parties, and… WOW, what a surprise.

The US Atty who brought the case, and was shortly thereafter looking into a couple of other members of congress, was the first fired in the US attorney scandal — ousted by Alberto Gonzales, at Karl Rove’s direction, for not being vigorous enough in her pursuit of voter fraud. But she didn’t make a fuss about it, possibly because she was quickly offered a partnership at Gibson Dunn, with a $2M signing bonus.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:49:51pm

Judge Ellis is almost 79 years old. Is it possible that he has begun experiencing some form of cognitive decline? I cannot imagine what else would prompt him to praise Manafort as someone who lived a blameless life, instead of a model of corruption who until now escaped the prosecution he richly deserved.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:53:32pm

re: #90 Hecuba’s daughter

Judge Ellis is almost 79 years old. Is it possible that he has begun experiencing some form of cognitive decline? I cannot imagine what else would prompt him to praise Manafort as someone who lived a blameless life, instead of a model of corruption who until now escaped the prosecution he richly deserved.

A couple of possibilities:

1) Watching FOX.

2) A long career in the US criminal justice system, which is designed to incarcerate black people, protect white people, enrich wealthy people, and generally promulgate the American caste system.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:55:39pm

Welp, I’m off for the rack. Sweet dreams all. Tomorrow is indictment Friday!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2019 • 10:55:50pm

re: #91 Renaissance_Man

A couple of possibilities:

1) Watching FOX.

2) A long career in the US criminal justice system, which is designed to incarcerate black people, protect white people, enrich wealthy people, and generally promulgate the American caste system.

We can only hope that this is just an overture for a much nastier sentencing to follow.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:18:56pm

Sex symbol to the mature women of American in the 1950’s, here he is being schmaltzy and sexy at the same time:

Liberace sings “All in the game” (1950’s)

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:19:34pm

re: #90 Hecuba’s daughter

Never underestimate the capacity of privileged men to not see the ugliness of other, privileged men.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:20:50pm

re: #94 freetoken

Sex symbol to the mature women of American in the 1950’s, here he is being schmaltzy and sexy at the same time:

My mom loved him

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:21:09pm

re: #95 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Never underestimate the capacity of privileged men to not see the ugliness of other, privileged men.

They see themselves in the same position, of course.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:23:14pm

In the introduction to that video, Liberace sez:

… his name was Charles Dawes, he was the Vice President as you know, ….

I seriously doubt if anyone today knows anything about Charles Dawes, save for the the few history geeks in school who really read their history books.

How things change in over six decades.

Not sure how many people in the 1950’s did actually remember Dawes, but I suspect a decent share of Liberace’s audience at that time did know Dawes was VP when they were kids.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:24:39pm

re: #90 Hecuba’s daughter

Judge Ellis is almost 79 years old. Is it possible that he has begun experiencing some form of cognitive decline? I cannot imagine what else would prompt him to praise Manafort as someone who lived a blameless life, instead of a model of corruption who until now escaped the prosecution he richly deserved.

Sounds like. The tantrum he threw after he forgot that he’d explicitly given permission for expert witnesses to remain in court while other witnesses testified was classic sundowning oldfucker. The fact that his immediate reaction when confronted by the prosecutors with the discrepancy between what he had previously instructed and his rage in the moment was to bark “I don’t care what the transcript says,” should have marked the end of his career on the bench.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:29:47pm

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not only is she ethic, urban and female, she is also hot and gives them a boner. That gets them even more worked up because they know there is no way they’re ever going to nail her…

Maybe it’s just me and my current mood, and I’m not coming down on you…but please hear me out. This stuff about her being hot and giving the GOoPers boners is rather disturbing. For all I know, it may be true for men, but for women, it sounds like she is just simply being objectified because she is a young woman and that bothers me.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:34:09pm

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am more annoyed about the Archbishop of Lyon, who got a six-month suspended sentence for covering up child-abuse cases.

I’m more than annoyed. This shit pisses me off and, as much as people like the current Pope because he seems to be more compassionate, he has done a damn thing about the abuses in his Church.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:34:19pm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:40:04pm

re: #100 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

Maybe it’s just me and my current mood, and I’m not coming down on you…but please hear me out. This stuff about her being hot and giving the GOoPers boners is rather disturbing. For all I know, it may be true for men, but for women, it sounds like she is just simply being objectified because she is a young woman and that bothers me.

Yes, she is also a threat.

They are doing their damnedest to vilify her for reasons that go beyond the rational. She really ticks them off to the point that they are, in fact, giving her free publicity.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:55:36pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:56:54pm

re: #104 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Jared Kushner’s business sought a $100 million investment from a Saudi-backed fund.
Jared is meeting privately with the Saudi crown prince without telling US embassy officials what they discussed.

This is a clear-cut case of Conflict of Interest and violation of the Emoluments Clause.

We don’t need a Mueller Report, we just need the political will.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:57:20pm

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, she is also a threat.

They are doing their damnedest to vilify her for reasons that go beyond the rational. She really ticks them off to the point that they are, in fact, giving her free publicity.

I can agree with that.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 7, 2019 • 11:58:58pm

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My sister does security clearance background checks and is in town visiting me and working. It’s amazing just how much is involved in background checks…and she’s super pissed about how Jared and Ivanka just get handed these clearances.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:00:12am

re: #107 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

My sister does security clearance background checks and is in town visiting me and working. It’s amazing just how much is involved in background checks…and she’s super pissed about how Jared and Ivanka just get handed these clearances.

The President may grant them for any reason but the government gets to ask why…

How annoying for Trump. Having to explain himself in a way that has consequences…

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:23:20am

When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And the white knight is talking backwards
And the red queen’s off with her head
Remember what the dormouse said

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:24:51am

Choppin’ Gary!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:26:49am

re: #109 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

[Embedded content]

When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And the white knight is talking backwards
And the red queen’s off with her head
Remember what the dormouse said

Feed your HUD!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:35:00am
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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:36:55am

5:00 a.m. comes too soon. Goodnight, all!

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:41:31am

Makes me wonder if US is using carbon fiber bombs in Venezuela.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:03:54am

re: #114 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

The power outage and the devastation hurting ordinary Venezuelans is not because of the USA. It’s not because of Colombia. It’s not Ecuador or Brazil, Europe or anywhere else. Power shortages and starvation are the result of the Maduro regime’s incompetence.

I recall the rolling blackouts in California in the late 90’s and how Rush Limbaugh was blaming it on the “environmental whackos” who had purportedly prevented the state from building more power plants, when it was in fact private energy companies engaging in speculative profiteering.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:19:06am
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freetoken  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:22:06am

While looking at older recordings on Youtube one never knows why some videos get a lot of hits and others don’t. Often I come across great finds that have been on Youtube for years but have a just a few hits. Then others have millions and millions.

Over 20 million hits (albeit The Seekers are worth looking on Youtube, I wonder why this one has so many hits?)

The Seekers - I’ll Never Find Another You 1965 STEREO

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:22:45am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, I lived here then, remember it well.

I suspect the carbon fiber bombs because we’ve used them in Iraq, Syria and other locations, and the power outages are at or near hydro-electric plants which don’t tend to run out of fuel.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:33:18am

I wonder if Connie Francis, who is still alive, gets shunned from awards because she was (probably still is) somewhat staid Republican (Nixon and Reagan supporter, etc.)

While she never really was the transformative artist that the most important singers of the 50’s and 60’s were, she still had many hits and was/is enormously popular.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:46:59am

Since I’ve got the time machine warmed up…

A Young George Carlin on The Jimmy Dean Show

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:53:04am

US ‘Loyal Wingman’ Takes Flight: AFRL & Kratos XQ-58A Valkyrie

A single F-35 could have a flock of “loyal wingman” drones to carry weapons, jam radars, and if need be take a hit and die to save their human commander.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:54:26am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 8, 2019 • 1:59:26am

re: #121 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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US ‘Loyal Wingman’ Takes Flight: AFRL & Kratos XQ-58A Valkyrie

A single F-35 could have a flock of “loyal wingman” drones to carry weapons, jam radars, and if need be take a hit and die to save their human commander.

“Valkyrie” is not a lucky name:

XB-70 Valkyrie Mid-air collision June 8, 1966

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2019 • 2:20:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 2:32:27am

re: #124 Dave In Austin

A reminder that Rep. Matt Gaetz brought a Holocaust denier to the State of the Union address. He’s upset by anti-Semitism.

We had this discussion in the last thread: what is “Anti-Semitism”? Opposing Israel or the current Israeli government and its policies?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 8, 2019 • 2:36:50am

Unvaccinated Oregon Boy Is Diagnosed with Tetanus, the State’s 1st Child Case in 30 Years

Tetanus is an infection caused by the bacterium Clostridium tetani, but it is preventable thanks to the tetanus vaccine, the CDC says.

The boy in the case, however, had not received his tetanus vaccine, nor any of the other vaccines recommended for a child his age, according to the report.

The boy recovered, after 47 days in ICU and an $800,000 bill.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 8, 2019 • 2:38:45am

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Unvaccinated Oregon Boy Is Diagnosed with Tetanus, the State’s 1st Child Case in 30 Years

The boy recovered, after 47 days in ICU and an $800,000 bill.

Yeah, but at least he didn’t catch autism!
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2019 • 2:52:13am

This is interesting and seems to have sort of flown under the radar:

A 2.1-magnitude earthquake in North Korea’s mining town of Pyonggang at around noon on Thursday (March 7) is believed to have been man-made, with the Korean Meteorological Administration (KMA) indicating that the tremor was the result of an explosion.

“The epicentre is measured to be near the land surface,” a KMA official said.

The quake comes two days after South Korea’s spy agency said that North Korea was rebuilding part of a dismantled long-range missile test site in Sohae, reported The Korea Times.

It comes shortly after a summit between United States President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un ended without an agreement over differences on the extent of denuclearisation by Pyongyang.

straitstimes.com

Granted, it could’ve been an explosion in a mine……after all, industrial accidents happen everywhere in the world, and North Korea would be no exception.

But…….it does seem to be, shall we say, an odd coincidence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 3:12:27am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

This is interesting and seems to have sort of flown under the radar:

straitstimes.com

Granted, it could’ve been an explosion in a mine……after all, industrial accidents happen everywhere in the world, and North Korea would be no exception.

But…….it does seem to be, shall we say, an odd coincidence.

Kim just dropped a bowling ball on his foot…

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 8, 2019 • 3:32:25am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

What does a 2.1 magnitude quake measure out to in terms of “BOOM!”?

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2019 • 3:40:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2019 • 3:50:52am

re: #131 Sufficient unto the day…

What does a 2.1 magnitude quake measure out to in terms of “BOOM!”?

I think about 15 to 20 kilotons or so? About the size of Little Boy.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2019 • 3:52:49am

Lots of good jazz videos originally as film from years ago… here is one:

Dave Brubeck Quartet - St Louis Blues- Belgium 1964

However, I often find Brubek to be uncomfortably cerebral, like I’m supposed to understand what’s going on but I don’t.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 8, 2019 • 3:54:00am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

“Hello, Vault Tec? Sign me up.”

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:01:47am

Whether or not this day will be Felon Friday, if you need a dose of freaky, there is this old Youtube favorite:

The Ross Sisters - Solid Potato Salad (DVD Quality) Full Video

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:10:01am

Adult measles killed Robert Earl Hughes, the world’s heaviest person at the time (1069 pounds):

On July 10, 1958, Hughes contracted a case of measles, which soon developed into uremia, resulting in his death in Bremen, Indiana, United States. He was 32 years old. He is buried in Benville Cemetery, Brown County, Illinois.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:20:20am

Life and Limb: Inside the Rio Grande Valley’s Amputation Crisis.

The Valley is among the poorest and least-insured regions in the country. It’s also overwhelmingly Hispanic, a population that has a higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

Perhaps the most visceral indication of the Valley’s diabetes crisis is the shocking number of people living with amputations. The rate of diabetic amputations in the Valley was about 50 percent higher than the state rate in 2015, according to data from the state health agency. In Cameron County alone, where Zamora lives, hospitals recorded 281 diabetic amputations that year. That’s more than 50 percent higher than the national rate, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The estimated amputation rate in smaller Willacy County, just north of Cameron, was more than four times the national rate. “Good gracious,” said Ed Gregg, a CDC epidemiologist, when looking at the data. “What’s going on with Willacy?”

The Republican Party is a threat to national security. Its policies and values kill and maim more Americans than the most ambitious gang of terrorists could dare to imagine.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:27:11am

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Adult measles killed Robert Earl Hughes, the world’s heaviest person at the time (1069 pounds):

Wow. Not because of Hughes, but Brown County is where my dad’s side of the family is from.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:35:38am

The latest Star Trek: Discovery is not half-bad.

The ep begins with a “flashback” to a younger Pike and Spock on an away mission to Talos IV. That’s from the ST pilot. In the present, Burnham and Spock drop out of warp near an apparent black hole, but it is really Talos IV, where Spock needs to go to heal his mind. A bit later in the ep, Veena appears to Pike on board Discovery to offer the Talosians’ advice.

That’s all I will share at this point in time. Section 31 has me sworn to secrecy.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:36:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:40:34am

re: #140 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The latest Star Trek: Discovery is not half-bad.

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I stopped watching it near the end of the first season when my ex cancelled her netflix subscription ( I was still watching it on hers)

need to get back on, I guess.

Also looking forward to Good Omens on Amazon Prime

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:50:11am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I stopped watching it near the end of the first season when my ex cancelled her netflix subscription ( I was still watching it on hers)

need to get back on, I guess.

Also looking forward to Good Omens on Amazon Prime

Like the original series, Discovery has its ups and downs. Some of the political stuff seems forced (Section 31 reminds me a lot of Babylon 5’s psy corps) but the writers are trying to delve into some of deeper aspects of the series, such as Saru’s planetary history and the spore drive’s interference with the creatures of the mycellium universe. My advice is to forget about it trying to hold to canon (whatever the fuck that is) and watch it on its own level.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:51:05am

re: #119 freetoken

I wonder if Connie Francis, who is still alive, gets shunned from awards because she was (probably still is) somewhat staid Republican (Nixon and Reagan supporter, etc.)

While she never really was the transformative artist that the most important singers of the 50’s and 60’s were, she still had many hits and was/is enormously popular.

IIRC, she never recovered psychologically or professionally from a traumatic rape.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 4:54:30am

re: #143 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Like the original series, Discovery has its ups and downs. Some of the political stuff seems forced (Section 31 reminds me a lot of Babylon 5’s psy corps) but the writers are trying to delve into some of deeper aspects of the series, such as Saru’s planetary history and the spore drive’s interference with the creatures of the mycellium universe. My advice is to forget about it trying to hold to canon (whatever the fuck that is) and watch it on its own level.

I enjoy it for the fact that it is self-contained enough without much reference to the rest of ST

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Broad With Sass  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:12:16am

Dragon is getting ready to come home
Link

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:30:01am
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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:35:09am

Luckily this Lineman wasn’t killed.

Truck sends worker flying after hitting bucket truck

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jeffreyw  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:45:13am

Good morning!

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:48:33am
Job growth came to a near halt in February after a blistering start to the year, with nonfarm payrolls increasing by just 20,000 even as the unemployment rate fell to 3.8 percent.

cnbc.com

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:51:03am

re: #150 Shropshire Slasher

cnbc.com

Trump will naturally say nothing about the slump, after taking credit for every increase since he took office.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:52:02am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:52:56am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:58:27am

cnbc.com

White House to unveil unbalanced budget on Monday, sources say

The guy who wrote that headline just won a bet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:58:34am

re: #153 Dave In Austin

POTUS media base now having to resort to explaining his behavior as an idiot being touched by the divine. I wish I was kidding.

Trump grabs pussy, God touches Trump…what does that say about God?

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 5:59:07am

re: #153 Dave In Austin

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“Tonight, on Touched by an Angel, special guest star Donald Trump explains how his being a ginormous douche is all part of God’s plan.”

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:04:26am

re: #144 Decatur Deb

IIRC, she never recovered psychologically or professionally from a traumatic rape.

I remember that. I believe it happened after a show out here on Long Island.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:07:20am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Finally warming up around here after the latest cold snap.

I’m glad Manafort got a reach around by Judge Ellis yesterday. That 47 month sentence was abhorrent and ignored the sentencing guidelines (and the bulkcrap about how this was a first time offender is just bullshit given that Manafort engaged in a pattern of tax fraud over years). That’s like saying Ted Bundy was a first time offender after being caught and linked to dozens of serial killings.

Yeah, it wasn’t a good day for justice.

So what does today bring?

Hmmm…. why is it that Trump always claim to know and have the best people, and yet the closer you look, the more you realize the people he’s talking about are straight out of Arkham asylum.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:09:13am

re: #158 lawhawk

Rosenstein said something to the effect that one can judge a man by the company he keeps.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:12:37am

re: #127 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Yeah, but at least he didn’t catch autism!
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The only solution for this problem is to enact a nationwide vaccination law that only allows a medical exemption for vaccination. If West Virginia can get alone with only medical exemptions from vaccinations, every other state can do it too.

Far too many states have bent over backwards to allow ideological exemptions or religious exemptions, and the result is outbreak after outbreak. In NY, there are repeated outbreaks - among religious Jews who have been exposed overseas (in Israel no less). That puts anyone in contact with them at risk - and the risk is highest for those with compromised immunity or those who aren’t vaccinated.

Eliminate the exemptions now.

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Jay C  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:14:41am

re: #159 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Rosenstein said something to the effect that one can judge a man by the company he keeps loads up with debt, loots, and bankrupts

Fixt for Trump-relevance.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:14:43am

A kid in Alabama should sue their parents under the new fetal rights law saying that they have the right to vaccinations.

Edited

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:17:20am

re: #162 Belafon

A kid in Alabama should sue their parents under the new fetal rights law saying that they have the right to vaccinations.

Edited

That would be their just rewards.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:17:34am

This evil witch and her pal Miller need to be indicted on kidnapping charges!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:19:13am

re: #158 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Finally warming up around here after the latest cold snap.

I’m glad Manafort got a reach around by Judge Ellis yesterday. That 47 month sentence was abhorrent and ignored the sentencing guidelines (and the bulkcrap about how this was a first time offender is just bullshit given that Manafort engaged in a pattern of tax fraud over years). That’s like saying Ted Bundy was a first time offender after being caught and linked to dozens of serial killings.

Yeah, it wasn’t a good day for justice.

So what does today bring?

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Hmmm…. why is it that Trump always claim to know and have the best people, and yet the closer you look, the more you realize the people he’s talking about are straight out of Arkham asylum.

I was honestly expecting Trump to be connected someway with that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:22:05am

re: #140 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The latest Star Trek: Discovery is not half-bad.

[Embedded content]

For those of us living in the United States, is there any way to watch this series without paying these highwaymen their ridiculous fee?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:22:34am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

I was honestly expecting Trump to be connected someway with that.

The pardon will be coming after he’s sentenced in DC.

Meanwhile my brainwashed family scream in union on Facebook about why Hillary and Obama aren’t in jail for the Pizzagate shit….

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:24:13am

re: #167 Joe Bacon 🌹

The pardon will be coming after he’s sentenced in DC.

Meanwhile my brainwashed family scream in union on Facebook about why Hillary and Obama aren’t in jail for the Pizzagate shit….

They really are on a different planet.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:25:45am

re: #166 Hecuba’s daughter

For those of us living in the United States, is there any way to watch this series without paying these highwaymen their ridiculous fee?

I download the episodes using BitTorrent. I’m in China, and that’s the only way to do it, short of using a VPN with a US IP address and paying for the CBS service.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:27:00am

re: #167 Joe Bacon 🌹

The pardon will be coming after he’s sentenced in DC.

Meanwhile my brainwashed family scream in union on Facebook about why Hillary and Obama aren’t in jail for the Pizzagate shit….

It’s possible that Clinton (Bill, not Hillary) and Trump should be in jail for their Epstein involvement.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:30:14am

The Woodstock 2019 lineup is starting to take shape…

The trickle of information about Woodstock 50 has been slow enough to make doubters wonder whether they’d ever see a lineup. Doubt no more: According to sources close to the situation, artists with firm offers have been wired payments and a lineup announcement is imminent. Even before that bill goes public, though, Variety has learned of more than 20 acts that are due to take part in the August 16-18 event, with the lineup full of rock and hip-hop firepower and fewer nods to nostalgia than you might expect.

Jay-Z, Dead & Co., Black Keys and Chance the Rapper are among the headliners — with two out of three nights speaking to hip-hop’s dominance 50 years after the 1969 event. Also slated to take part in the festival (all subject to change before anything is made official): The Raconteurs, Imagine Dragons, Run the Jewels, Gary Clark Jr., Cage the Elephant, the Killers, Greta Van Fleet, Margo Price, Sturgill Simpson, Portugal the Man, Dawes, the Lumineers, Bishop Briggs, Pussy Riot, Courtney Barnett and Dorothy. Halsey, Miley Cyrus, Janelle Monae and Brandi Carlile are also said to be finalizing their commitments.

I’m not impressed. But then, I wan’t planning on going anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:30:50am

vomit

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:31:04am

re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s possible that Clinton (Bill, not Hillary) and Trump should be in jail for their Epstein involvement.

Epstein isn’t Pizzagate.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:32:27am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Where was it in December 2016? You acted like we were in a Depression. You have zero to do with the unemployment rate. You coast off Obama’s policies and credit yourself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:35:59am

re: #151 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump will naturally say nothing about the slump, after taking credit for every increase since he took office.

The Democrats killed the job market!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:36:56am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Epstein isn’t Pizzagate.

Yes — I know. But it’s that there is a real pedophile conspiracy, where people in authority (e.g. Acosta, the current Labor Secretary) concealed the information and protected the assailants.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:38:01am

re: #166 Hecuba’s daughter

For those of us living in the United States, is there any way to watch this series without paying these highwaymen their ridiculous fee?

Yes, but it involves using a proxy server to access Netflix from other countries.

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Jay C  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:39:29am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Epstein isn’t Pizzagate.

But according to a non-trivial percentage of our electorate, only because “Pizzagate” has been successfully covered up….

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:40:01am

re: #98 freetoken

In the introduction to that video, Liberace sez:

I seriously doubt if anyone today knows anything about Charles Dawes, save for the the few history geeks in school who really read their history books.

How things change in over six decades.

Not sure how many people in the 1950’s did actually remember Dawes, but I suspect a decent share of Liberace’s audience at that time did know Dawes was VP when they were kids.

Morning!

Dawes was from Marietta Ohio. I am familiar with the family because they left a beautiful property with formal gardens and a collection of trees. It is called Dawes Arboretum. It is to the east of Columbus about 40 miles or so just south of Newark. It has a great Japanese Garden. It’s a great place just to chill out and enjoy nature.

Check out the Google image page for Dawes Arboretum. Just a quick scan of the images gives a great feel for how nice it is. It reminds me I need to go there again. It’s been a few years.

Dawes Arboretum Google Images

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:41:53am

bre: #99 goddamnedfrank

Sounds like. The tantrum he threw after he forgot that he’d explicitly given permission for expert witnesses to remain in court while other witnesses testified was classic sundowning oldfucker. The fact that his immediate reaction when confronted by the prosecutors with the discrepancy between what he had previously instructed and his rage in the moment was to bark “I don’t care what the transcript says,” should have marked the end of his career on the bench.

I am certain that the defense team was completely aware of his impairment. The bizarre statement they submitted, which various people here and on MSNBC attributed to the team’s attempt to influence Trump, was actually designed to influence a judge with dementia.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:46:47am

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, but it involves using a proxy server to access Netflix from other countries.

I don’t have those technical skills — but maybe one of my programmer nephews can help out.

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:48:42am

re: #140 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The latest Star Trek: Discovery is not half-bad.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:50:22am

re: #182 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t have those technical skills — but maybe one of my programmer nephews can help out.

You don’t need technical skills. Just use Hola VPN (hola.org). I know you can get it as a Chrome extension, I believe it’s compatible with other browsers. Once installed, you just tell it which country you want it to appear you are browsing from, go to netflix.com, sign in with your usual credentials and you’re good to go.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 6:54:41am

re: #158 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Finally warming up around here after the latest cold snap.

I’m glad Manafort got a reach around by Judge Ellis yesterday. That 47 month sentence was abhorrent and ignored the sentencing guidelines (and the bulkcrap about how this was a first time offender is just bullshit given that Manafort engaged in a pattern of tax fraud over years). That’s like saying Ted Bundy was a first time offender after being caught and linked to dozens of serial killings.

Yeah, it wasn’t a good day for justice.

So what does today bring?

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Hmmm…. why is it that Trump always claim to know and have the best people, and yet the closer you look, the more you realize the people he’s talking about are straight out of Arkham asylum.

Wait, this place was human trafficking, and Kraft was a client for “massages” and he also had the woman who owns it in his booth at The Super Bowl???

If that is right, then I have a feeling Kraft knows a little bit more about what was going on with her. Or, he is an ignorant ass.

I bet there ends up being a bit of an investigation into this connection.

EDIT: I see it was Trump watching with her…and not with Kraft. Still something not at all right going on there. What with Epstein, Trump’s own ‘modeling agency’ and all that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:12:47am

re: #185 ObserverArt

Wait, this place was human trafficking, and Kraft was a client for “massages” and he also had the woman who owns it in his booth at The Super Bowl???

He didn’t. The Super Bowl was in Atlanta. The Massage Parlor owner was photographed at a Super Bowl party with Trump in Florida.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:17:58am

re: #160 lawhawk

The only solution for this problem is to enact a nationwide vaccination law that only allows a medical exemption for vaccination. If West Virginia can get alone with only medical exemptions from vaccinations, every other state can do it too.

Far too many states have bent over backwards to allow ideological exemptions or religious exemptions, and the result is outbreak after outbreak. In NY, there are repeated outbreaks - among religious Jews who have been exposed overseas (in Israel no less). That puts anyone in contact with them at risk - and the risk is highest for those with compromised immunity or those who aren’t vaccinated.

Eliminate the exemptions now.

THERE IS NO “RELIGIOUS REASON” FOR JEWS TO NOT GET VACCINATED!!!!

GRRRRRRR. These people are just stupid. STUPID!!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:20:35am

I’m really shocked (happily so) that my state of Mississippi is so stringent on vaccinations. Most of the time we go down the wingnut path on issues, but not on this one for some reason.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:21:11am

I just went to Ticketmaster to see what the tickets for Frampton’s farewell tour are going for at MSG. Floor seats are going for $601 per. Plus fees.

Sorry, Pete. I love ya, but I really don’t love ya that much.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:23:32am

re: #187 The Vicious Babushka

THERE IS NO “RELIGIOUS REASON” FOR JEWS TO NOT GET VACCINATED!!!!

GRRRRRRR. These people are just stupid. STUPID!!!!!

I don’t have a clue why the Orthodox Jewish community in Monsey isn’t vaccinating or why a single yeshiva in Williamsburg isn’t following public health protocols.

In the latter case, the yeshiva should be shut down by the authorities over this outbreak. They are putting the public at grave risk. This is a public health emergency, and yet not enough people are treating it as such. Are state or county officials worried that the Orthodox community, which has tremendous sway, going to caterwaul over this?

The only way forward on this is to end all exemptions for vaccination unless medically necessary.

Rockland County instituted mandatory school exclusions for students who are not vaccinated. Since the outbreak began, about 6,000 unvaccinated students in more than 60 schools and daycare centers were excluded. Many have been able to return to school, but there are still about 25 schools or daycare centers under exclusion orders and about 3,600 children are being kept home.

This is unconscionable and due in large part to the antivaxxer bulkshit that has been spewed endlessly and far too many people have bought into it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:25:52am

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:27:18am

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m really shocked (happily so) that my state of Mississippi is so stringent on vaccinations. Most of the time we go down the wingnut path on issues, but not on this one for some reason.

A handful of states are strict on vaccinations. West Virginia only allows medical exemptions, and California has recently changed their laws. Mississippi is also pretty stringent.

All the others have religious and/or ideological exemptions, and there’s no rationale for it. The public health trumps the religious beliefs - particularly when these same people talk about the sanctity of life. Invariably it turns to personal liberty, which is also bullshit because their actions have a direct and consequential impact on those around them, including children who can’t make the decision themselves, or expose infants or those who have compromised immunity (and no one walks around with a sign saying it either). It’s a crapshoot, and diseases like measles can infect even those who were vaccinated.

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Old Liberal  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:29:42am

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, but it involves using a proxy server to access Netflix from other countries.

And each country has different access so be sure to find out which countries have that specific program

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:29:48am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:32:13am

re: #193 Old Liberal

And each country has different access so be sure to find out which countries have that specific program

Correct. I find bouncing around European countries usually gets me to what I want pretty quickly.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:40:20am

I think Mark Summer has a good take on Manafort’s sentencing yesterday:

Though no one else in the courtroom had mentioned it, Ellis injected into the conversation that Manafort was “not before this court for anything having to do with collusion with the Russian government to influence this election.” That statement didn’t seem to have anything to do with Manafort’s appearance in the court.

But it had a lot to do with Ellis’ position during the trial. As Politico reported a year ago, Ellis repeatedly challenged the special counsel’s office during the early part of the trial. He questioned the legitimacy of its investigation of Manafort, declared that Manafort was only being prosecuted to “tighten the screws” on Donald Trump, and declared, “I don’t see what relation this indictment has with what the special counsel is authorized to investigate.”

In a hearing, Ellis interrupted the case being presented by the special counsel’s office to blast it with his disdain. “You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” said the judge. “What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”

While Ellis later refused a motion that would have stopped the trial, it was clear from the beginning that he had disdain for the entire notion of a special counsel, and in particular for this investigation. And Ellis embraced the central argument that’s been put forward by Trump and others on the right: Manafort’s crimes don’t matter, because if it wasn’t for the special counsel, he would have gotten away with it.

On Thursday afternoon, Ellis delivered a sentence based not on the federal sentencing guidelines, Manafort’s behavior, or any evidence presented in court. He delivered a sentence that came directly out of his political views. It’s exactly the kind of thing that makes Mitch McConnell’s heart glow as he thinks about the courts filling up with Donald Trump’s politically minded appointees.

It’s also a sentence that will definitely impact the willingness of others involved in the Russia investigation to cooperate with the special counsel. Judge Ellis did more to damage the investigation than every tweet from Trump.

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steve_davis  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:41:36am

re: #29 HappyWarrior

That was a good movie. I still would love an outright Lincoln bio epic but that movie was great.

they made it. lincoln spent much of his early life killing vampires. this helped him both build good upper body strength from the long axe, but also helped to inscribe strong organizational practices into his thoughts and actions.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:42:58am

I wonder if an area’s history of being adversely impacted by easily communicable diseases makes an area more supportive of mandatory. Like would a community that was perhaps more impacted by the Flu epidemic be more inclined to pass these laws than an area that was relatively not.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:45:55am

re: #196 Belafon

I think Mark Summer has a good take on Manafort’s sentencing yesterday:

I do wonder if backlash against Judge Ellis’s lenient sentence will impact other cases. It’s obvious that he was disdainful of the whole investigation as Sumner gets at. Will other judges have the same view?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:47:30am

Can the prosecutors challenge Manaforts sentencing at all?

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:48:03am

re: #196 Belafon

I think Mark Summer has a good take on Manafort’s sentencing yesterday:

Right, the verdict makes total sense when you consider that this judge made clear from the very beginning his disdain for the case brought for him and those who were bringing it to his court. My guess is the only reason that he didn’t grant the motion months ago was because he knew it would be overturned on appeal and one thing judges absolutely hate is having their judgments overturned by a higher court. So he let the whole thing play out, figuring either that Manafort would be acquitted at trial or he would simply give a slap on the wrist sentence.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:48:26am

re: #196 Belafon

Ellis is precisely the kind of activist judge that the GOP and Trump want. They want ideologues who don’t care about the rule of law or the rules or sentencing guidelines when their guys are the ones who are prosecuted.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:48:33am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

I do wonder if backlash against Judge Ellis’s lenient sentence will impact other cases. It’s obvious that he was disdainful of the whole investigation as Sumner gets at. Will other judges have the same view?

I do think the “He’d have gotten away with it had it not been for those meddling kids” defense really says he shouldn’t be a judge. (I know he didn’t say it explicitly, but his actions definitely pointed to it.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:50:21am

Hmmmm

Chelsea Manning got jailed for refusing to testify…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:50:58am

re: #203 Belafon

I do think the “He’d have gotten away with it had it not been for those meddling kids” defense really says he shouldn’t be a judge. (I know he didn’t say it explicitly, but his actions definitely pointed to it.)

I would agree. Crimes that you figure out from an unrelated criminal investigation are still crimes. I think that’s a ridiculous take from a judge who has been on the federal bench for 31 1/2 years.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:51:08am

re: #194 darthstar

Nobody could have guessed the head of a prostitution/human trafficking ring was a regular at Mar a Lago.

Some hinky Asian lady keeps turning up, too.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:51:20am

re: #202 lawhawk

Ellis is precisely the kind of activist judge that the GOP and Trump want. They want ideologues who don’t care about the rule of law or the rules or sentencing guidelines when their guys are the ones who are prosecuted.

Yet, when it’s a poor or minority defendant before their court, moan about how “awful” those same guidelines are…right before giving the defendant the maximum allowable sentence.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:51:34am
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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:52:30am

re: #203 Belafon

I do think the “He’d have gotten away with it had it not been for those meddling kids” defense really says he shouldn’t be a judge. (I know he didn’t say it explicitly, but his actions definitely pointed to it.)

I’d say that and the “It’s not like he murdered anybody!” style excuse for the low sentence are what is so wrong with the way white-collar crime is handled in this country.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:53:26am

re: #208 lawhawk

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Make America Great Again by demanding protection money.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:53:49am
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A Cranky One  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:55:32am

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:55:40am

Let’s say you’re investigating me for tax fraud. You find out through that I’ve been embezzling as well. The embezzlement is still a crime. I don’t get Ellis’s disdain for the investigation and inability to see the above principle.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:56:18am

re: #196 Belafon

I think Mark Summer has a good take on Manafort’s sentencing yesterday:

While Ellis later refused a motion that would have stopped the trial, it was clear from the beginning that he had disdain for the entire notion of a special counsel, and in particular for this investigation. And Ellis embraced the central argument that’s been put forward by Trump and others on the right: Manafort’s crimes don’t matter, because if it wasn’t for the special counsel, he would have gotten away with it.

That is what is so infuriating — that these white collar criminals escape justice on a regular basis. No wonder like the Covington teenager they feel they are immune from consequences of their actions, that they can smirk at anyone who challenges them, because the system is rigged in their favor.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:56:22am

re: #208 lawhawk

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Then the next war happens and the wingnuts suddenly can’t understand why it’s impossible for us to move troops because our “allies” are denying us the ability to fly through their airspace.

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steve_davis  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:58:00am

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

I hate this fucking timeline.

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is there not some way for the prosecution to appeal this sentence, with the hope that somebody up the chain will say, “this is complete crap. Go back and sentence using the actual guidelines.”

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gwangung  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:58:06am

re: #208 lawhawk

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Idiot.

Our military is USELESS without those bases. We NEED them to be powerful. The shit gibbon doesn’t understand logistics.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 7:59:03am

re: #207 Targetpractice

Yet, when it’s a poor or minority defendant before their court, moan about how “awful” those same guidelines are…right before giving the defendant the maximum allowable sentence.

Manafort was lucky because he did his crimes as a 71 year old white heterosexual Republican named Paul. Remember when Obama took flack for saying we needed judges with empathy. He was right and frankly there’s always been empathetic judges but towards the wrong people like Manafort and the right I assure you is reasonably happy with Judge Ellis today.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:00:21am

re: #215 Targetpractice

Then the next war happens and the wingnuts suddenly can’t understand why it’s impossible for us to move troops because our “allies” are denying us the ability to fly through their airspace.

Yep. Wingnuts talk about as if nationalism is this great thing. Well you need internationalism to remain a superpower.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:01:35am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

Yep. Wingnuts talk about as if nationalism is this great thing. Well you need internationalism to remain a superpower.

All empires fall.

This is what happens when you have an asshole President who got a D in his history classes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:01:44am

re: #217 gwangung

Idiot.

Our military is USELESS without those bases. We NEED them to be powerful. The shit gibbon doesn’t understand logistics.

He thinks the other countries are competitors he needs to force out of business.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:02:28am

re: #220 Joe Bacon 🌹

All empires fall.

This is what happens when you have an asshole President who got a D in his history classes.

You’re a more generous grader than me. I would give him an F.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:02:29am

“IF THEY WON’T PAY US TO KEEP TROOPS THERE, THEN WE’LL JUST LEAVE!”

Oh really? So, when Russia decides it has eyes for invading Poland or Ukraine, what then? Nevermind, I know what you’ll do: Sit on your fat ass in your desk chair and bitch that the Germans aren’t rushing to stop the invasion while it takes us weeks to move enough armor and manpower to Europe to counter the Russian forces.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:02:56am

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

He thinks the other countries are competitors he needs to force out of business.

Gangster President.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:04:04am

re: #223 Targetpractice

“IF THEY WON’T PAY US TO KEEP TROOPS THERE, THEN WE’LL JUST LEAVE!”

Oh really? So, when Russia decides it has eyes for invading Poland or Ukraine, what then? Nevermind, I know what you’ll do: Sit on your fat ass in your desk chair and bitch that the Germans aren’t rushing to stop the invasion while it takes us weeks to move enough armor and manpower to Europe to counter the Russian forces.

He’s just a sleazy dirt bag who has no concept of how policy works.

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sagehen  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:05:46am

He obviously wasn’t much of a student at his military high school.

Or he’d remember that the whole reason we have bases in Germany and Japan and their own military is minimal… is because WE HAVE REALLY GOOD REASON FOR NOT WANTING THEM TO BE CAPABLE OF LAUNCHING INVASIONS.

Other concern…

if he brings all these American troops back home, are they going to sit on their bases and train? Or does he have plans for them? If he does, that can’t possibly be good.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:07:48am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

He’s just a sleazy dirt bag who has no concept of how policy works.

I’m not so much pissed at him as the neo-isolationist fuckwits that compromise modern conservatism, arguing that the rest of the world should pay us for the “privilege” of stationing our troops to provide for their “defense.”

You know, the ones who think the rest of the world owes us for “saving them” in WWII and the Cold War was won not through a national alliance of like-minded nations but the caricature of one elderly president going “Tear down this wall!”

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:09:27am

re: #226 sagehen

He obviously wasn’t much of a student at his military high school.

Or he’d remember that the whole reason we have bases in Germany and Japan and their own military is minimal… is because WE HAVE REALLY GOOD REASON FOR NOT WANTING THEM TO BE CAPABLE OF LAUNCHING INVASIONS.

Other concern…

if he brings all these American troops back home, are they going to sit on their bases and train? Or does he have plans for them? If he does, that can’t possibly be good.

Perhaps Nancy should go to the podium and say “We’re grateful to President Trump for this opportunity to pursue our party’s desire to scale back the defense budget. When we bring all those troops and materiel home, we can really begin to scale back our defense spending to only that spending that provides for our national defense rather than war of choice.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:10:26am

re: #227 Targetpractice

I’m not so much pissed at him as the neo-isolationist fuckwits that compromise modern conservatism, arguing that the rest of the world should pay us for the “privilege” of stationing our troops to provide for their “defense.”

You know, the ones who think the rest of the world owes us for “saving them” in WWII and the Cold War was won not through a national alliance of like-minded nations but the caricature of one elderly president going “Tear down this wall!”

Right and I’ll be damned that’s a perfect description of that mindset.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:10:57am

re: #228 Targetpractice

Perhaps Nancy should go to the podium and say “We’re grateful to President Trump for this opportunity to pursue our party’s desire to scale back the defense budget. When we bring all those troops and materiel home, we can really begin to scale back our defense spending to only that spending that provides for our national defense rather than war of choice.”

That would be epic.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:11:55am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

Yep. Wingnuts talk about as if nationalism is this great thing. Well you need internationalism to remain a superpower.

re: #223 Targetpractice

“IF THEY WON’T PAY US TO KEEP TROOPS THERE, THEN WE’LL JUST LEAVE!”

Oh really? So, when Russia decides it has eyes for invading Poland or Ukraine, what then? Nevermind, I know what you’ll do: Sit on your fat ass in your desk chair and bitch that the Germans aren’t rushing to stop the invasion while it takes us weeks to move enough armor and manpower to Europe to counter the Russian forces.

My Trumpster brother seems to have bought the whole Ron Paul bit: we don’t get involved any place unless we are directly attacked. So let’s not care about the rest of the world at all. We need a powerful military so no one is willing to attack us — the rest of the world can take care of itself.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:13:46am

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

My Trumpster brother seems to have bought the whole Ron Paul bit: we don’t get involved any place unless we are directly attacked. So let’s not care about the rest of the world at all. We need a powerful military so no one is willing to attack us — the rest of the world can take care of itself.

Have you asked him how well that worked for the US in the years between 1914 and 1945?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:14:27am

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

My Trumpster brother seems to have bought the whole Ron Paul bit: we don’t get involved any place unless we are directly attacked. So let’s not care about the rest of the world at all. We need a powerful military so no one is willing to attack us — the rest of the world can take care of itself.

The thing is we would be eventually directly impacted. The new isolationists are blissfully unaware of how global not only the economy is but also culture and communications.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:15:03am

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

My Trumpster brother seems to have bought the whole Ron Paul bit: we don’t get involved any place unless we are directly attacked. So let’s not care about the rest of the world at all. We need a powerful military so no one is willing to attack us — the rest of the world can take care of itself.

As early as 1980, an officer at Camp Casey could explain “We’re not here to protect South Korea, we’re here to keep the South from going north and starting WWIII.” I suspect a good bit of that thinking was current in the 7th Army in FRG as well.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:18:18am

re: #234 Decatur Deb

As early as 1980, an officer at Camp Casey could explain “We’re not here to protect South Korea, we’re here to keep the South from going north and starting WWIII.” I suspect a good bit of that thinking was current in the 7th Army in FRG as well.

Our deployments overseas are meant to be stabilizing - including making sure that our strategic allies/partners don’t do something rash like starting a war.

But Trump is trying to undo all of it because he thinks that this is a protection racket.

Putin is overjoyed at this turn of events.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:21:31am

re: #235 lawhawk

Our deployments overseas are meant to be stabilizing - including making sure that our strategic allies/partners don’t do something rash like starting a war.

But Trump is trying to undo all of it because he thinks that this is a protection racket.

Putin is overjoyed at this turn of events.

His entire team’s approach of foreign policy is just terrible.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:22:10am
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steve_davis  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:22:18am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump grabs pussy, God touches Trump…what does that say about God?

that we all have to hope he regularly washes his hands.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:22:26am

re: #235 lawhawk

Our deployments overseas are meant to be stabilizing - including making sure that our strategic allies/partners don’t do something rash like starting a war.

But Trump is trying to undo all of it because he thinks that this is a protection racket.

Putin is overjoyed at this turn of events.

He doesn’t think anything — he’s getting his marching orders from Putin.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:23:34am

re: #237 lawhawk

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Incompetents.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:23:41am

Some of Ellis’ rationale just make my brain hurt. He led a “credible”/”blameless” life but for his criminal tax fraud? He had no prior criminal conviction? Every criminal was a first time offender at one point, and lots and lots get stiffer penalties for much less severe offenses.

Then he says that at the heart of it, Manafort’s tax evasion was tantamount to robbing the American people. If he had stolen millions of dollars through hacking a bank, would Ellis have been so abhorrently lenient? Of course not.

To give Manafort less than what his defense team was requesting, even after Manafort literally showed no contrition in his statement to the Court was deeply depressing and saddening.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:24:03am

re: #235 lawhawk

Our deployments overseas are meant to be stabilizing - including making sure that our strategic allies/partners don’t do something rash like starting a war.

But Trump is trying to undo all of it because he thinks that this is a protection racket.

Putin is overjoyed at this turn of events.

Really, if you want to assume Trump isn’t a Russian agent, you could go by Donny’s remarks in the press about how he wants his defense experts and generals to think about foreign policy in terms of economics. That he sees everything as zero-sum: “If we’re not getting paid to keep our troops overseas, then we’re really paying for such and thus paying to provide defense for those countries.” This is a man who makes McNamara and his “Whiz Kids” look like downright ingenious by comparison.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:25:08am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

You’re a more generous grader than me. I would give him an F.

Daddy’s money bought the D.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:27:07am

re: #241 Mike Lamb

Some of Ellis’ rationale just make my brain hurt. He led a “credible”/”blameless” life but for his criminal tax fraud? He had no prior criminal conviction? Every criminal was a first time offender at one point, and lots and lots get stiffer penalties for much less severe offenses.

Then he says that at the heart of it, Manafort’s tax evasion was tantamount to robbing the American people. If he had stolen millions of dollars through hacking a bank, would Ellis have been so abhorrently lenient? Of course not.

To give Manafort less than what his defense team was requesting, even after Manafort literally showed no contrition in his statement to the Court was deeply depressing and saddening.

Right, his crimes were ongoing as well. Maybe this is farcical but hear me out, would any serial killer who has no prior convictions but is first convicted of multiple criminal accounts over a period of time that have it said to lived a “blameless life.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:27:23am

re: #243 Joe Bacon 🌹

Daddy’s money bought the D.

Ah!

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:27:33am

So, Trump and Junior rubbed shoulders with the owner of the day spa that was shuttered due to the human trafficking scandal.

Guess who else:

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:28:29am

re: #226 sagehen

He obviously wasn’t much of a student at his military high school.

Or he’d remember that the whole reason we have bases in Germany and Japan and their own military is minimal… is because WE HAVE REALLY GOOD REASON FOR NOT WANTING THEM TO BE CAPABLE OF LAUNCHING INVASIONS.

Other concern…

if he brings all these American troops back home, are they going to sit on their bases and train? Or does he have plans for them? If he does, that can’t possibly be good.

Wall building

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:29:03am

re: #246 lawhawk

So, Trump and Junior rubbed shoulders with the owner of the day spa that was shuttered due to the human trafficking scandal.

Guess who else:

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Wow I never thought this would turn into a political scandal.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:30:16am

one more for 23,000

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:32:50am

I just remembered that Ellis actually gave Gates’ more shit during the trial for his own crimes than he did Manafort yesterday, all because Gates had turned evidence and agreed to testify in order to receive a lighter sentence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:33:21am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Wow I never thought this would turn into a political scandal.

Given where the incident happened and how dirty Trumps people are, I actually did.

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Semper Fi  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:33:39am

re: #164 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Kudos to Lukovich, looks just like Nielsen…even picked up her, I don’t care, I believe in this job, evil expression.
Always get bad vibes when seeing her.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:34:41am

re: #247 I Would Prefer Not To

Wall building

It’s like he wants us to be his isolated little kingdom protected by walls. I’d call this Neo Isolationist Feudalian Postcapitalism if I had to think of anything it resembles.

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sagehen  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:35:28am

re: #246 lawhawk

So, Trump and Junior rubbed shoulders with the owner of the day spa that was shuttered due to the human trafficking scandal.

Guess who else:

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Somebody should check how much blue duct tape is in the cupboards at that day spa…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:36:06am

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

Given where the incident happened and how dirty Trumps people are, I actually did.

Yeah good point. It’s just amazing how much is coming out. And man both FLA’s New Governor and Senator who was their old Governor.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:37:07am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:39:23am

re: #250 Targetpractice

I just remembered that Ellis actually gave Gates’ more shit during the trial for his own crimes than he did Manafort yesterday, all because Gates had turned evidence and agreed to testify in order to receive a lighter sentence.

Would it be wrong of me to think Ellis showed sympathy towards Manafort since both are technically Reagan admin alums.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:40:54am

This article pretty much sums up my feelings on the whole Omar kerfluffle.

Goes to Rawstory, article is originally from Salon.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:46:03am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

It’s like he wants us to be his isolated little kingdom protected by walls. I’d call this Neo Isolationist Feudalian Postcapitalism if I had to think of anything it resembles.

There’s nothing that oligarchs resemble more than feudal lords. This is what drove Robespierre and the Reign of Terror: the arrogant rich who trampled on the rest of society with contempt. Hopefully we will discover a less violent approach to resolve the economic problems the world is facing.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:47:09am

re: #90 Hecuba’s daughter

Judge Ellis is almost 79 years old. Is it possible that he has begun experiencing some form of cognitive decline? I cannot imagine what else would prompt him to praise Manafort as someone who lived a blameless life, instead of a model of corruption who until now escaped the prosecution he richly deserved.

Maybe he’s just an asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:47:41am

re: #259 Hecuba’s daughter

There’s nothing that oligarchs resemble more than feudal lords. This is what drove Robespierre and the Reign of Terror: the arrogant rich who trampled on the rest of society with contempt. Hopefully we will discover a less violent approach to resolve the economic problems the world is facing.

I was also thinking Trump’s oligarchy is particularly feudal given the rampant nepotism.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:49:57am
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Semper Fi  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:50:57am

re: #256 lawhawk

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Costco is very fair to their employees but I spend toooo much when shopping there.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:52:45am

re: #260 Skip Intro

Maybe he’s just an asshole.

I’d say that seems more likely. That Ellis made up his mind at the beginning of this trial that it was needless and Manafort being subjected to it only as a means of extracting his cooperation or exacting punishment on him for refusal to provide such, and made that his guiding belief all the way through to yesterday. His hope was for acquittal or at least a mistrial, but he had to settle for giving Paulie a slap on the wrist.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:52:51am

re: #262 jaunte

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They call Dems the real white supremacists despite that African Americans are strong supporters and represented well in leadership and rank file. Same thing with Jews.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:53:12am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Wow I never thought this would turn into a political scandal.

It better turn into a political scandal.

If this was any Democrat there would already be investigations and Hannity would have a special 2 hour show dedicated to it about how corrupt the no-morals Democrats are.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:53:42am

re: #262 jaunte

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It makes total sense when you consider all the wingnuts who think that the Jews owe their loyalty to the GOP because “WE SUPPORT ISRAEL!”

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:54:17am

re: #252 Semper Fi

Kudos to Lukovich, looks just like Nielsen…even picked up her, I don’t care, I believe in this job, evil expression.
Always get bad vibes when seeing her.

About that witch hunting. We found one.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:55:24am

re: #263 Semper Fi

The one area where they probably should do better is the folks who do the food tastings; those are outside contractors, and they don’t have the wage/benefits of the costco employees.

Still, the company does mostly right by their employees.

And yeah, I spend a lot there too - especially on eyewear/contacts, photo services, and those alone make the annual fee worth it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:55:49am

re: #267 Targetpractice

It makes total sense when you consider all the wingnuts who think that the Jews owe their loyalty to the GOP because “WE SUPPORT ISRAEL!”

A lot of those “supporters” are Christian Fundamentalists who do not care a hoot about Jews or Judaism, they just need to see a resurgent Israel in order to bring about their End Times prophecies.

Sick fuckers, all…

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:56:35am

Given that the White House’s biggest threat is its own staff, this isn’t surprising. May this continue through every document request and subpoena…

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:57:16am

re: #266 ObserverArt

It better turn into a political scandal.

If this was any Democrat there would already be investigations and Hannity would have a special 2 hour show dedicated to it about how corrupt the no-morals Democrats are.

Considering the “scandal” that erupted over the Daily Caller trying to accuse Bob Menendez of sleeping with underage hookers, there is no need to speculate on how wingnuts would react if the latest revelations about Trump were happening to a Dem.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:57:40am

re: #267 Targetpractice

It makes total sense when you consider all the wingnuts who think that the Jews owe their loyalty to the GOP because “WE SUPPORT ISRAEL!”

Or black people, Lincoln freed the slaves! He was a Republican! But don’t mind the CSA flag there. It’s not related to Lincoln freeing the slaves. And don’t mind me but I’m going to talk about your group’s party loyalty being like a slave (which wasn’t that bad) plantation. They have no idea how bullshit their message is.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:57:49am

re: #260 Skip Intro

Maybe he’s just an asshole.

Ain’t no maybes about it. He has shown his ass through the whole trial.

And he can still be an old decrepit and needs-to-retire judge too.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:57:58am

re: #262 jaunte

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That’s SOP for Republicans. It’s no different than the pathological desire to paint Dems as the real racists relative to African Americans through stooges like D’Souza and grifters like Diamond and Silk, and calling it the Democratic Plantation.

(Which highlights some of the language asymmetries highlighted in the Rawstory article above—the “Democratic Plantation” is such an insanely racist image with its implications that African Americans are not smart enough to recognize how to vote in their self interest—and it’s treated as completely normal political discourse).

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:58:34am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:59:22am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

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Does he fucking know who Chuck Schumer is?

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Mike Lamb  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:59:34am

re: #266 ObserverArt

It better turn into a political scandal.

If this was any Democrat there would already be investigations and Hannity would have a special 2 hour show dedicated to it about how corrupt the no-morals Democrats are.

Look how they tried to tie Clinton and others to Weinstein.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 8:59:40am

“The Democrat Party is anti-Jew!”

“How do you come to that conclusion?”

“THEY DON’T SUPPORT ISRAEL!”

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:00:37am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:01:47am

re: #271 darthstar

Given that the White House’s biggest threat is its own staff, this isn’t surprising. May this continue through every document request and subpoena…

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Not all heroes wear capes.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:02:01am

re: #280 lawhawk

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The SecDef is presently looking through his company’s rolls for a new SecUSAF who thinks it would be awesome for his service to “lease” tankers from the manufacturer for way more than it would cost to just buy them outright.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:02:55am
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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:03:06am

re: #271 darthstar

Given that the White House’s biggest threat is its own staff, this isn’t surprising. May this continue through every document request and subpoena…

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Chickens and roosts. This administration has done everything in its power to beat down and scared the everloving shit out of its staff, it’s no surprise that there is a rich vein of resentment who would love the opportunity to knock their employers down a few pegs.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:03:46am

re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg

Not all heroes wear capes.

It shows you what some in the White House think of the Trumps.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:04:15am

re: #275 Mike Lamb

That’s SOP for Republicans. It’s no different than the pathological desire to paint Dems as the real racists relative to African Americans through stooges like D’Souza and grifters like Diamond and Silk, and calling it the Democratic Plantation.

(Which highlights some of the language asymmetries highlighted in the Rawstory article above—the “Democratic Plantation” is such an insanely racist image with its implications that African Americans are not smart enough to recognize how to vote in their self interest—and it’s treated as completely normal political discourse).

I still remember Rand Paul and his lame attempt to reach out to African Americans. He was meeting kids at Howard University- a HBCU no less and telling them they’d be “shocked” that Abe Lincoln was a Republican as were the founders of the NAACP. And the kids were like yeah we knew that and then you ran right on Civil Rights and that’s why most African Americans don’t like your party.

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bd (Emergency!)  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:04:19am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

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Those were obviously false flag/crisis actors.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:07:05am

re: #153 Dave In Austin

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:08:10am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:08:28am

re: #288 Skip Intro

That’s because he didn’t stop to ask for directions. /

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:09:14am

The party that couldn’t understand why people would be opposed to supporting South Africa during Apartheid can’t understand why people would be opposed to supporting an Israel that breaks international agreements to gain “breathing room.”

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:09:28am
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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:09:59am

re: #292 Sufficient unto the day…

#InternationalWomensDay

“I don’t need a map! I know where I’m going!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:11:44am

re: #293 Targetpractice

“I don’t need a map! I know where I’m going!”

“We passed along THAT burning bush already. I think I heard it talk.”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:15:28am

re: #293 Targetpractice

“I don’t need a map! I know where I’m going!”

“You take a left and then another left.”

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:17:45am

re: #290 lawhawk

That’s because he didn’t stop to ask for directions. /

I’m pretty sure years of eating manna for every meal will do that to you. Plus, he knew he wasn’t going to make it there himself. What incentive did he have to get there?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:18:05am

re: #289 lawhawk

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Sounds like more work. They’ll probably have an acting comm director to act as a face.

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Dragonomics  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:18:20am

re: #288 Skip Intro

Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:18:25am

watch out DecaturDeb!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:18:47am

moron is extra worried

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:19:00am

WARNING!

A Richard Pryor Video that is spot on for today but includes the “N” word as used by Pryor. I hope I am not upsetting anyone by posting this video. It really hits.

Nothing changes.

Video Theme. Justice = Just us.

Richard Pryor Just Us

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:20:08am

re: #298 Dragonomics

Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament.

This Stonehedgy thing wasn’t in your revealtion Moses! We’re lost.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:23:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:24:59am

not. one. GOP. vote. for. this.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:25:23am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is this the right’s Hollywood Madam?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:27:59am
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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:28:58am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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not. one. GOP. vote. for. this.

And now it’ll go to the Senate to gather dust, because Mitch knows that no Senate Dems will oppose the bill and thus he can’t use it to boost his party’s chances next year.

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Jay C  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:29:14am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Sounds like more work. They’ll probably have an acting comm director to act as a face.

I read this at first as “act as a farce

But then, it’s the Trump Admin: works either way….

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:29:16am

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Here is what it is like to be Old.

I have a box of GS Thin Mints in the pantry and I thought I would go downstairs and grab some. But when I got to the bottom of the stairs I forgot why I came down! I only knew it had something to do with a snack. So I looked in the fridge (wrong place) and saw a bunch of mandarines so I took some.

Then when I finished eating the mandarines I realized that I really wanted the cookies but I don’t want to go downstairs again because my feet hurt. But the mandarines are much healthier so there’s that.

And I just had exactly the same experience — I wanted to do an Internet search but first decided to close a few tabs and then realized I no longer remembered what the search was!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:29:46am

Learn something new every day!

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:30:57am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Maybe, but Roger Stone was (is) with the Manhattan madam.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:31:29am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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not. one. GOP. vote. for. this.

Looks like the Democrats are pushing out all of their favorite legislation knowing the Republicans are going to refuse it as a Demonstration to America of who is with the little guy and who is against it. They are making things very clear as to where everyone stands prior to the 2020 elections.

This is political war.

By the way, it has been a special week. My bud Senator Robby The Wimp Portman has sent me two email responses. I feel special.

He keeps trying to sell me on his fierce independence. I keep laughing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:33:13am

re: #312 ObserverArt

Looks like the Democrats are pushing out all of their favorite legislation knowing the Republicans are going to refuse it as a Demonstration to America of who is with the little guy and who is against it. They are making things very clear as to where everyone stands prior to the 2020 elections.

This is political war.

By the way, it has been a special week. My bud Senator Robby The Wimp Portman has sent me two email responses. I feel special.

He keeps trying to sell me on his fierce independence. I keep laughing.

Yeah they’re setting up the talking points for the nominee really well. Pelosi again shows why she’s Speaker.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:34:40am

re: #312 ObserverArt

Looks like the Democrats are pushing out all of their favorite legislation knowing the Republicans are going to refuse it as a Demonstration to America of who is with the little guy and who is against it. They are making things very clear as to where everyone stands prior to the 2020 elections.

This is political war.

By the way, it has been a special week. My bud Senator Robby The Wimp Portman has sent me two email responses. I feel special.

He keeps trying to sell me on his fierce independence. I keep laughing.

Much more productive than repealing Obamacare 40 times.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:36:22am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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not. one. GOP. vote. for. this.

The GOP will bury this in the Senate. They only want whites and especially white males to vote.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:36:33am

re: #314 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Only 40? It feels like it was in the 4-digit range…

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:37:27am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:37:29am

re: #315 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP will bury this in the Senate. They only want whites and especially white males to vote.

They know. They’re framing it as an issue the Republican Senate and President won’t sign.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:38:09am

re: #316 Sufficient unto the day…

Only 40? It feels like it was in the 4-digit range…

I lost track after 1492.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:40:42am

Web work rant behind the hidey thing…

I got a call from a client the other day, the leader of a band which has been pretty successful here on LI for the last couple of years. They finally hooked up with an agency that is going to put them on a national theater/casino/corporate circuit, with one caveat - their name includes the word ‘Billboard,’ and the agent said once they got out into the corporate world they’d invariably get hit with a cease & desist from Billboard magazine.

So they decided to change the name to the ‘Rock and Roll Road Show,’ and they tasked me with trying to land the domain name for their planned new site. I did a WHOIS search in order to contact the domain name owner. The contact pointed to a GoDaddy page with a button that said ‘Buy This Domain!’ - with a price tag of $70! I talked to the client and told him that 70 bucks was way steep for a domain name these days. I had already acquired a .net domain for the site (for 12 bucks), but was told that the band was insistent on getting the .com (the girfriend of the lead singer does web sites ‘on the side,’ and she got in their ears telling them that a .net was no good, they simply had to get the .com).

Fair enough. Went back to GoDaddy and plonked down the 70 bucks to buy the domain name. Done, right?

Nope.

I got a followup email from GoDaddy, welcoming me to their ‘Domain Buy’ program. Turns out I didn’t buy the domain name with the 70 bucks, I bought the right to enter into negotiations with the domain name owner to buy the domain. This gives me the rights to enter a bid between $250 and $2500 to buy the domain name from the owner.

Back on the phone with the client, to emphasize yet again that having a .com is pretty much a non-factor nowadays, and while I thought paying $70 for a domain name was crazy, paying up to $2500 was just stupid.

I won the argument and they said to just go with the .net. I called GoDaddy, and judging by the speed with which they refunded the $70 I’d say they probably get a fair amount of complaints about their ‘Domain Buy’ program.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:45:25am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

not. one. GOP. vote. for. this.

I think the only one that a lot of people around here in Red Texas would not get behind is public finance of election.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:47:36am

Every Trumpworld and GOP figure in Florida seemingly was rubbing shoulders with the alleged owner of a human trafficking ring and who operated in plain sight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:52:37am

re: #320 makeitstop

Web work rant behind the hidey thing…

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BS like that is one of many reasons I refuse to deal with GoDaddy.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:55:08am

re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg

BS like that is one of many reasons I refuse to deal with GoDaddy.

I hear ya. I even had to sign up for an account to make the buy, and now I’m getting stupid GoDaddy ads all over the place.

And their UI - holy crap, is it bad. Lucky for them they’ve got an enormous advertising budget.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:55:58am

re: #322 lawhawk

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Every Trumpworld and GOP figure in Florida seemingly was rubbing shoulders with the alleged owner of a human trafficking ring and who operated in plain sight.

Which means the far-right are presently engaged in a mad search for the one photo of her with a prominent Dem or Dem supporter to declare a “scandal” that the DNC must address. And the media won’t touch the story until that one Dem is found, at which point the “BSAB” narrative will go into full swing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 9:59:08am

re: #325 Targetpractice

Which means the far-right are presently engaged in a mad search for the one photo of her with a prominent Dem or Dem supporter to declare a “scandal” that the DNC must address. And the media won’t touch the story until that one Dem is found, at which point the “BSAB” narrative will go into full swing.

And they get to say SEE BIPARTISAN CORRUPTION. Ignoring that you know this lady was a guest at the President of the United States’ Super Bowl watch party.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:00:33am

re: #325 Targetpractice

Which means the far-right are presently engaged in a mad search for the one photo of her with a prominent Dem or Dem supporter to declare a “scandal” that the DNC must address. And the media won’t touch the story until that one Dem is found, at which point the “BSAB” narrative will go into full swing.

Photoshops of this lady standing next to AOC coming in 3…2…1…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:01:33am

re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg

Blatantly poor Photoshops of this lady standing next to AOC coming in 3…2…1…

FTFY

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:06:23am

From the BBC

Brexit: One more push needed to get deal through, says May

Sounds familiar…ah yes, BBC, Summer of 1916

Somme Offensive: One more push needed to make breakthrough, says General Rawlins.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:07:25am

re: #320 makeitstop

Web work rant behind the hidey thing…

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GoDaddy is the EVIL!!!

Don’t ask me why…I have too many painful stories.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:07:46am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:08:16am

re: #322 lawhawk

GOP - PIZZAGATE is real (based on no evidence). Clinton should go directly to prison for reasons.

Reality: Trumpworld and key GOPers in FL are up to their eyeballs in rubbing shoulders with owner/operator of a human trafficking ring who kept women under duress so that they can perform sexual acts on paying customers.

It’s ALWAYS projecting like IMAX from Trump and GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:08:45am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Would it be surprising if it came out she’s a Mar Al Lago member who has benefited from the access Trump offers his visitors?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:09:46am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:10:44am

re: #332 lawhawk

GOP - PIZZAGATE is real (based on no evidence). Clinton should go directly to prison for reasons.

Reality: Trumpworld and key GOPers in FL are up to their eyeballs in rubbing shoulders with owner/operator of a human trafficking ring who kept women under duress so that they can perform sexual acts on paying customers.

It’s ALWAYS projecting like IMAX from Trump and GOP.

Do you think this projection starts because someone close to the inner circle who knows what the projection is based tells someone they know to start bullshiting about the Left/Dems doing it till the truth comes out. Wonder if Flynn or Flynn Jr were patrons.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:11:11am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can’t like that enough.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:11:29am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thinking this is more like the battle of Ypres but the Somme will do.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:13:50am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Do you think this projection starts because someone close to the inner circle who knows what the projection is based tells someone they know to start bullshiting about the Left/Dems doing it till the truth comes out. Wonder if Flynn or Flynn Jr were patrons.

I’m not really sure. Who knows what goes through conspiracy nutters’ lone firing neuron. It could be that someone in the know drops a bit of info that is enough to get the conspiracy theory going with traction, while maintaining sufficient distance themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:14:33am

I guess I shouldn’t be too shocked that Trump is associated with the owner of the establishment. Sleazy people associate and the parlor isn’t too far from Mar Al Lago.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:14:34am

re: #325 Targetpractice

Which means the far-right are presently engaged in a mad search for the one photo of her with a prominent Dem or Dem supporter to declare a “scandal” that the DNC must address. And the media won’t touch the story until that one Dem is found, at which point the “BSAB” narrative will go into full swing.

The RW doesn’t care at all about this — unless there’s a Democrat involved. They voted overwhelmingly for Roy Moore. They don’t care about Trump destroying our foreign policy or collaborating with dictators IN THE OPEN; they don’t care about gun deaths unless the perpetrator is a minority or Muslim; they don’t care about drug deaths; they don’t care about children dying at the border. They are actively hostile to everything that made America “great”; they are racists and misogynists to the core.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:14:55am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

See, she now thinks she’s Jesus.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:14:57am

Escalating quickly isn’t quite the word here…

UPDATE:
And the source of where those photos was has now taken them down/hidden from public view.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:15:18am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They do think they’re “better.” It’s the same reason that they look down their nose as persons like AOC: They think of themselves as the new aristocracy and nothing pisses off an aristocrat more than seeing those they view as “commoners” being elevated to their level. When someone like Paul Ryan took office, they accepted him not only for his skin and his gender, but also because he came from a business family. Lawyers and doctors are welcome because they are men and women who attained office through money and influence.

So when someone like AOC wins a seat to the royal court, it rankles them something fierce because she is not of “noble” birth, nor did she attain office through buying favor or attaining it through personal connections. She is one of the purest expressions of the belief that anyone can run and win elections to Congress…and they hate her for that because they think it’s an exclusive club that you have to pay to enter.

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:16:20am

re: #320 makeitstop

I’ve done a little tiny bit of web work for my church. I have come do despise GoDaddy. Their cutesy voice prompts when you call in made me annoyed the first time; it went down hill from there.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:16:33am

re: #342 lawhawk

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Escalating quickly isn’t quite the word here…

Holy shit.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:16:44am

re: #343 Targetpractice

They do think they’re “better.” It’s the same reason that they look down their nose as persons like AOC: They think of themselves as the new aristocracy and nothing pisses off an aristocrat more than seeing those they view as “commoners” being elevated to their level. When someone like Paul Ryan took office, they accepted him not only for his skin and his gender, but also because he came from a business family. Lawyers and doctors are welcome because they are men and women who attained office through money and influence.

So when someone like AOC wins a seat to the royal court, it rankles them something fierce because she is not of “noble” birth, nor did she attain office through buying favor or attaining it through personal connections. She is one of the purest expressions of the belief that anyone can run and win elections to Congress…and they hate her for that because they think it’s an exclusive club that you have to pay to enter.

Take that, and then add what happens when a Muslim immigrant gets elected.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:17:07am

re: #340 Hecuba’s daughter

The RW doesn’t care at all about this — unless there’s a Democrat involved. They voted overwhelmingly for Roy Moore. They don’t care about Trump destroying our foreign policy or collaborating with dictators IN THE OPEN; they don’t care about gun deaths unless the perpetrator is a minority or Muslim; they don’t care about drug deaths; they don’t care about children dying at the border. They are actively hostile to everything that made America “great”; they are racists and misogynists to the core.

What they do care about is that it has the potential to ensnare them in political or even criminal consequences. And their only means of blunting such is turning it into a “Both Sides” issue, hopeful that Dems will be so afraid of one of their own being implicated that they’ll push to avoid the issue becoming a public scandal.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:17:13am

I think a lot of the AOC hate is good old fashioned misogyny. They hate the idea of a woman who is smarter, younger and more powerful than they are.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:17:21am

re: #342 lawhawk

Escalating quickly isn’t quite the word here…

UPDATE:
And the source of where those photos was has now taken them down/hidden from public view.

What’s in the picture?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:18:09am

re: #349 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

The owner of the massage parlor where Robert Kraft got busted attending some kind of official meetings at Mar-A-Lago

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:19:07am

re: #342 lawhawk

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Escalating quickly isn’t quite the word here…

UPDATE:
And the source of where those photos was has now taken them down/hidden from public view.

Will our media even mention this?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:19:34am

re: #350 Eclectic Cyborg

The owner of the massage parlor where Robert Kraft got busted attending some kind of official meetings at Mar-A-Lago

This could be really big. I don’t think it’s crazy to think that she probably gave informal policy advice to Trump.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:19:47am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

There are so many pictures coming out showing the owner of the alleged human trafficking operation with prominent GOPers…

It’s as though she made sure to get photos with everyone in Trumpworld.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:19:59am
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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:20:06am

re: #348 Eclectic Cyborg

I think a lot of the AOC hate is good old fashioned misogyny. They hate the idea of a woman who is smarter, younger and more powerful than they are.

I’d argue what they hate is she’s a woman who attained Congressional office without being either the daughter or wife of a prominent man. They tolerate those women whose daddy or hubby is/used to be big in politics or business. Since she is neither, they tell themselves she must have done “something” unseemly to get that seat.

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Jay C  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:20:11am

re: #343 Targetpractice

They do think they’re “better.” It’s the same reason that they look down their nose as persons like AOC: They think of themselves as the new aristocracy and nothing pisses off an aristocrat more than seeing those they view as “commoners” being elevated to their level. When someone like Paul Ryan took office, they accepted him not only for his skin and his gender, but also because he came from a business family. Lawyers and doctors are welcome because they are men and women who attained office through money and influence.

So when someone like AOC wins a seat to the royal court, it rankles them something fierce because she is not of “noble” birth, nor did she attain office through buying favor or attaining it through personal connections. She is one of the purest expressions of the belief that anyone can run and win elections to Congress…and they hate her for that because they think it’s an exclusive club that you have to pay to enter.

re: #348 Eclectic Cyborg

I think a lot of the AOC hate is good old fashioned misogyny. They hate the idea of a woman who is smarter, younger and more powerful than they are.

And also: if Ocasio-Cortez was a Republican, the same jackal chorus would be praising her to the skies as a sterling example of Good Old American Pluck and Grit, working herself up from nowhere to a seat in Congress….

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:20:13am
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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:20:41am

re: #353 lawhawk

There are so many pictures coming out showing the owner of the alleged human trafficking operation with prominent GOPers…

It’s as though she made sure to get photos with everyone in Trumpworld.

I would be worried they’re shopped.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:20:54am

re: #353 lawhawk

There are so many pictures coming out showing the owner of the alleged human trafficking operation with prominent GOPers…

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It’s as though she made sure to get photos with everyone in Trumpworld.

I gotta admit. I never thought this scandal would get to Trump.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:21:21am

re: #358 Belafon

I would be worried they’re shopped.

The number and variations of poses would make such an effort rather difficult.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:22:02am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

I guess I shouldn’t be too shocked that Trump is associated with the owner of the establishment. Sleazy people associate and the parlor isn’t too far from Mar Al Lago.

I’m wondering if Grandpa Stompy Foot got any late-night visits from the ‘employees.’ On the house, of course.

I wonder if he left Fox News on…

Fuck. Gotta go take a damn shower now.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:22:42am

re: #360 Targetpractice

The number and variations of poses would make such an effort rather difficult.

That’s good. In this day and age, you have to be wary of pictures.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:23:20am

re: #361 makeitstop

I’m wondering if Grandpa Stompy Foot got any late-night visits from the ‘employees.’ On the house, of course.

I wonder if he left Fox News on…

Fuck. Gotta go take a damn shower now.

Any other President, any other, I’d tell you that you were nuts but this guy? Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he loaned her some money.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:24:22am
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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:24:34am

re: #357 jaunte

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I’ve been known to follow a clever nic and ask questions later…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:25:31am

re: #364 jaunte

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No difference between the two candidates those dumbasses said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:25:59am

re: #356 Jay C

And also: if Ocasio-Cortex was a Republican, the same jackal chorus would be praising her to the skies as a sterling example of Good Old American Pluck and Grit, working herself up from nowhere to a seat in Congress….

See: Mia Love

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:27:01am

re: #356 Jay C

And also: if Ocasio-Cortex was a Republican, the same jackal chorus would be praising her to the skies as a sterling example of Good Old American Pluck and Grit, working herself up from nowhere to a seat in Congress….

Yeah I think it’s not really AOC’s story per se. It’s that she doesn’t give them what they want to hear about our economic system. As I’ve said, I’m probably to her center economically but I’m left of the establishment’s so a lot of what she says does resonate with me and I think has with many people.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:27:06am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

See: Mia Love

You mean that woman they no longer talk about because she blamed Trump for her reelection bid loss?

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:27:57am

re: #360 Targetpractice

The number and variations of poses would make such an effort rather difficult.

And clothes. She’s in a different outfit in nearly every single picture.

That would indicate a whole shit-ton of elbow-rubbing with Team Traitor.

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gwangung  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:28:00am

I think equal sentences would have been fair.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:28:26am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

See: Mia Love

Yeah they used her as a prop about how their party was “now inclusive” because they elected a black woman. There have been black women in the Democratic caucus since before I was born.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:28:52am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

See: Mia Love

And Sarah Palin! Who actually appears in one of these photos.

Of course, business people attending these events try to get their picture with every politician even if the politician might not know them.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:29:59am

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

And Sarah Palin! Who actually appears in one of these photos.

Of course, business people attending these events try to get their picture with every politician even if the politician might not know them.

She wasn’t just attending business meetings.

She was invited to meetings in the WH itself.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:30:52am

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

And Sarah Palin! Who actually appears in one of these photos.

Of course, business people attending these events try to get their picture with every politician even if the politician might not know them.

I still remember Obama being called sexist by the same people who now call everyone a snowflake because he used the lipstick on a pig metaphor to talk about what McCain and Palin were offering the country. It’s always one giant projectionfest.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:33:08am

re: #370 makeitstop

And clothes. She’s in a different outfit in nearly every single picture.

That would indicate a whole shit-ton of elbow-rubbing with Team Traitor.

Elbows?

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:33:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:33:59am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:36:20am

Hope Floridians are happy with Scott and DeSanititis.

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:40:07am

Damn. :’(

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:40:25am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

Note the background on that last image.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:40:35am

re: #337 lawhawk

Thinking this is more like the battle of Ypres but the Somme will do.

Ypres crYpres!!!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:41:24am

re: #381 Eclectic Cyborg

Note the background on that last image.

I did. Neither she or Gohmert are Virginians.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:42:21am

re: #376 Decatur Deb

Elbows?

So to speak.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:42:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:42:45am

she sure has this networking thing down to a science…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:42:47am

re: #348 Eclectic Cyborg

I think a lot of the AOC hate is good old fashioned misogyny. They hate the idea of a woman who is smarter, younger and more powerful than they are.

and ethnic and urban, to boot.

and again, the fact that she is hot and gives them a boner and they know they don’t stand a chance in hell of ever getting one off with her…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:43:21am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder if Mother and Mother Pence have a pic?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:43:47am

re: #380 Teukka

He’s been in declining health for quite sometime. RIP; loved The Mechanic - that was the first Charles Bronson film I saw (on TV).

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:44:09am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

she sure has this networking thing down to a science…

It’s practically a players program of the Trump inner circle.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:44:17am

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

At first I assumed the fuck you was actually aimed at Bernie, I guess since I fervently believe he should fuck right off and not come back.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:44:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:46:49am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:46:56am

Could that Gohmert photo mean they were at some Trump fundraiser together?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:47:19am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Holy crap.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:48:28am

Tower Girl Falcon-Cam, UT Austin
biodiversity.utexas.edu

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:49:59am

clap back at the moron for taking credit for this

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plansbandc  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:50:29am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:50:40am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:50:50am

re: #383 HappyWarrior

I did. Neither she or Gohmert are Virginians.

In fact, if you look at it closely there’s a Trump International Hotel DC banner (far left).

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KerFuFFler  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:51:12am

re: #241 Mike Lamb

Some of Ellis’ rationale just make my brain hurt. He led a “credible”/“blameless” life but for his criminal tax fraud? He had no prior criminal conviction? Every criminal was a first time offender at one point, and lots and lots get stiffer penalties for much less severe offenses.

That “blameless life” bullshit really gets my goat. Sure, the judge should not sentence Manafort for the 8 crimes that he was found guilty of in the other trial (and the ten additional felonies he pleaded guilty to), just the crimes he was convicted of in in Ellis’
own court. But to ignore the fact that he was convicted elsewhere and refer to his life as blameless is pure senile, partisan hackery. In a just world he would be off the bench pronto——-if not for this ridiculous sentencing statement, but for the time he said while presiding that he did not care what the transcript said.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:52:05am

re: #400 Eclectic Cyborg

In fact, if you look at it closely there’s a Trump International Hotel DC banner (far left).

Yeah how did I miss that?

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:55:38am

re: #396 jaunte

Tower Girl Falcon-Cam, UT Austin
biodiversity.utexas.edu

I looked out a window this morning and saw a very large bird on a wire, near a pole which obscured some of the bird. Brown, so it couldn’t be a raven, but about that size. I was thinking hawk, or even eagle, then it moved. Part of it.

Two pigeons.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:57:11am

A lot of MAGA types are using the “Cindy Yang sold the spas years ago, libtards; it’s fake news,” but this Miami Herald article shows that the spas had a reputation for prostitution under Yang, too.

miamiherald.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:57:14am

Here is another dumbass who learns “history” from Dipshit D’Stupid.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:59:16am

One last note on Jan-Michael Vincent; it seems he died last month (10 February) after a cardiac arrest in a hospital in North Carolina, according to the death certificate.

His death wasn’t reported until today.

bbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 10:59:55am

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

Here is another dumbass who learns “history” from Dipshit D’Stupid.

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Russia abolished slavery before we did. In fact by Western standards, we were very late. Brazil and Cuba were the last two Western nations to ban it. In fact, part of the conflict that led to Texas fighting Mexico was that Mexico didn’t want slavery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:00:15am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:01:33am

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This lady could bring a lot of prominent Republicans down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:01:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:02:27am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

Russia abolished slavery before we did. In fact by Western standards, we were very late. Brazil and Cuba were the last two Western nations to ban it. In fact, part of the conflict that led to Texas fighting Mexico was that Mexico didn’t want slavery.

In the blockbuster John Wayne Alamo movie, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who then volunteers to stay on and fight.

In the flop Ron Howard version, Jim Bowie sends his slave off to report to his family, and reminds him that he is still his property…

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:02:31am

Two thoughts about Ms. Yang, et. al.

First, I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who want their pictures taken for posterity with people they’ve met but probably don’t really know.
Second, I can’t recall when I’ve seen such a display of a third (or fourth) social tier rich person showing off her connection to second (or third) tier rich people.

Kind of sad.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:02:34am

I expect to get a whole lot of shit for that tweet, by the way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:03:49am

re: #413 Charles Johnson

I expect to get a whole lot of shit for that tweet, by the way.

Twitter is less about conducting political discourse and more about slinging shit…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:03:58am

re: #411 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the blockbuster John Wayne Alamo movie, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who then volunteers to stay on and fight.

In the flop Ron Howard version, Jim Bowie sends his slave off to report to his family, and reminds him that he is still his property…

Historical epics unfortunately are never too popular if they remind about hard truths unfortunately.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:04:40am

re: #413 Charles Johnson

I expect to get a whole lot of shit for that tweet, by the way.

Netanyahu is the worst thing to happen to Israel. We need more supporters of israel to speak out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:05:20am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

This lady could bring a lot of prominent Republicans down.

Eight plus different women with credible allegations couldn’t bring Trump down. I don’t think Republicans are too worried right now.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:05:42am

re: #403 wrenchwench

I looked out a window this morning and saw a very large bird on a wire, near a pole which obscured some of the bird. Brown, so it couldn’t be a raven, but about that size. I was thinking hawk, or even eagle, then it moved. Part of it.

Two pigeons.

One of my friends once had an office up near the top of the Republic Bank building in Houston; she could look out her window into an osprey’s nest.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:05:53am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

Eight plus different women with credible allegations couldn’t bring Trump down. I don’t think Republicans are too worried right now.

True.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:06:15am

re: #411 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the blockbuster John Wayne Alamo movie, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who then volunteers to stay on and fight.

In the flop Ron Howard version, Jim Bowie sends his slave off to report to his family, and reminds him that he is still his property…

My brain processed “Jim Bowie” as “David Bowie” for some reason and I was like: “Wait, what the hell??”

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:06:37am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

This lady could bring a lot of prominent Republicans down.

Maybe that’s why she was getting the buddy-buddy from them…

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:07:25am
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KerFuFFler  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:08:24am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

The guy who shot up the Holocaust Museum, NOT a Democrat.

The guy who murdered people at the Overland JCC, NOT a Democrat

LA JCC shooting, NOT a Democrat.

See a pattern here?

The jerks prancing around with tiki torches chanting, “Jews will not replace us…..Jews will not replace us…” NOT DEMOCRATS

Just “very fine people”……

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:08:45am

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

For profit schools beyond the pre-school/day care level should be banned. I’ve no problem with private schools - I went to a Catholic elementary school and a private law school - but the profit motive has no place in education.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:09:00am

re: #420 Eclectic Cyborg

My brain processed “Jim Bowie” as “David Bowie” for some reason and I was like: “Wait, what the hell??”

Kris Kristofferson did play Billy the Kid tho after all.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:09:43am

re: #421 makeitstop

Maybe that’s why she was getting the buddy-buddy from them…

Probably.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:09:49am

re: #420 Eclectic Cyborg

My brain processed “Jim Bowie” as “David Bowie” for some reason and I was like: “Wait, what the hell??”

Jim had the knife that could cut you, David had the lyrics that could do the same.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:10:20am

re: #394 HappyWarrior

Could that Gohmert photo mean they were at some Trump fundraiser together?

The Florida based-owner of this human trafficking ring was at the White House, Mar a Lago, and Virginia Women for Trump fundraiser - at a minimum.

Note too that she had a purse with a bedazzled Trump/USA on it (see photo w/Palin above).

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:11:01am

More birdwatching opportunities.

High Island is a place where a salt dome bulges up out of the almost-completely-flat Texas coastline.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:11:58am

re: #428 lawhawk

The Florida based-owner of this human trafficking ring was at the White House, Mar a Lago, and Virginia Women for Trump fundraiser - at a minimum.

Note too that she had a purse with a bedazzled Trump/USA on it (see photo w/Palin above).

This is getting really interesting.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:12:57am

re: #422 jaunte

false flag hoax hey look over there

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Sir John Barron  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:14:01am

re: #430 HappyWarrior

This is getting really interesting.

Is this the owner operator of the massage parlor ring that the Patriots owner got caught up in?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:14:22am

re: #432 Sir John Barron

Is this the owner operator of the massage parlor ring that the Patriots owner got caught up in?

Yes it is.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:15:04am

We’re approaching the proverbial “dead girl/live boy” territory with this story, aren’t we?

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:15:12am

re: #428 lawhawk

The Florida based-owner of this human trafficking ring was at the White House, Mar a Lago, and Virginia Women for Trump fundraiser - at a minimum.

Note too that she had a purse with a bedazzled Trump/USA on it (see photo w/Palin above).

Why is she staring at Palin’s chest?
Also too, she has a “MAGA” purse in another photo.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:15:35am

re: #432 Sir John Barron

Is this the owner operator of the massage parlor ring that the Patriots owner got caught up in?

re: #433 I Would Prefer Not To

She might have sold it (or not), definitely the founder of the franchise.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:16:05am

re: #434 KGxvi

We’re approaching the proverbial “dead girl/live boy” territory with this story, aren’t we?

That’s so 2015.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:16:35am

The slavery angle puts such a damper on the illicit sex jokes.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:17:26am

re: #437 Decatur Deb

That’s so 2015.

I think we do need a new version to meet the moral standards of the day, maybe “dead body, live kid”?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:17:33am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:17:43am

re: #432 Sir John Barron

Is this the owner operator of the massage parlor ring that the Patriots owner got caught up in?

Yes

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:18:02am

re: #353 lawhawk

I have some issues with facial recognition, but it looks to me like a few of the photos in this thread are of someone else. Or possibly from years ago?
Or, I could be nuts.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:18:46am

re: #440 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Accountability matters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:19:22am

re: #420 Eclectic Cyborg

My brain processed “Jim Bowie” as “David Bowie” for some reason and I was like: “Wait, what the hell??”

I also wrote “David” initially without noticing and had to go back and change it…

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:19:50am

re: #351 Skip Intro

Will our media even mention this?

I bet you MSNBC will. I can almost guarantee Lawrence O’Donnell will mock the hell out of this one. Ari, Rachel, and Chris Hayes will probably have some kind of mention.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:20:28am
447
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:24:28am

re: #446 jaunte

Those poor Bibles…

//

Seriously though, what the hell? They couldn’t bring some MAGA stuff for him to sign this time?

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:25:02am

re: #358 Belafon

I would be worried they’re shopped.

No way. These images look too good to be Photoshops. Or someone will have spent a ton of time to create them. There would be a lot of work they way she appears between people, etc. That would take a lot of work to modify the very elaborate backgrounds in some of the images.

By the way, these images should be used to pound on The Trump Gang and their connections to all of the Evangelical types.

Yes, I know they are capable of excusing anything, but excusing prostitution and human trafficking will take some real work. And I am not concerned about the pulpit pimps as much as their followers hearing about all of this.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:27:52am

re: #442 calochortus

I have some issues with facial recognition, but it looks to me like a few of the photos in this thread are of someone else. Or possibly from years ago?
Or, I could be nuts.

I think she got new teeth along the way somewhere. And some parties were very long, or something.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:28:14am

re: #399 Charles Johnson

As a Jew, I’m horrified by Bibi’s courting and going all in with the Kahanists.

These are the extremists who assassinated Rabin and want to expel non Jews from Israel (including the West Bank and Gaza). They are considered domestic terrorists, or were until Bibi decided to throw with them because his political survival depends on it with elections upcoming even as he’s indicted on bribery charges.

And yeah, I can be upset over Rep. Omar’s statement.

I’m also going to slam the fucking GOPers who decided to cast a nay vote on the house resolution, because they condone the very kinds of bigotry that they claim they’re against (the rationale from this bunch includes that it wasn’t specific to Rep. Omar, all while ignoring that Steve King and Steve Scalise are openly pushing white supremacy and going to white supremacist confabs, but the GOP put Scalise in one of the leadership posts and refuses to strip him of that role).

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steve_davis  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:29:33am

re: #134 freetoken

Lots of good jazz videos originally as film from years ago… here is one:

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However, I often find Brubek to be uncomfortably cerebral, like I’m supposed to understand what’s going on but I don’t.

joe morello. dressed like a civil servant. played like he’d made a deal with the devil and spawned jon bonham as a love child.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:31:43am

re: #442 calochortus

I have some issues with facial recognition, but it looks to me like a few of the photos in this thread are of someone else. Or possibly from years ago?
Or, I could be nuts.

I read that many (all?) of the pictures come from her FB page.

453
jaunte  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:33:04am
454
lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:33:15am

re: #446 jaunte

455
ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:33:56am

re: #414 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Twitter is less about conducting political discourse and more about slinging shit…

Politics today is less about conducting political discourse and more about slinging shit. Especially with conservatives that also cry about split politics and deep divisions.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:34:28am

Rick Wilson’s piece on the Manafort sentencing is a pretty good one.

For those of you facing indictment, including those are you in the Trump orbit who know what’s coming but haven’t yet heard the knock of the U.S. Marshals on your door, here’s a helpful reminder: Trump will always lie. He will always throw you under the bus. He will always shift the blame. He will always promise you everything and leave you hanging.

Think of a single time you’ve ever seen Trump stand up for someone in trouble for their work for him. You can’t. Do you think Trump believes in any joint defense agreement or will raise money for your legal defense? Do you think Trump is going to offer you a pardon to save you from death behind bars? Get a grip.

You worked for a conman, a fraud, a serial adulterer, a man comfortable in the presence of criminals, and someone who displays every single worst aspect of humanity. Trump will do everything it takes to preserve his power, image, and money. He will burn the entire Republican Party—and likely the nation—to the ground to save himself. Enjoy the free government health care in prison.

457
HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:34:55am

re: #453 jaunte

[Embedded content]

If the majority support it or otherwise indifferent sigh.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:35:22am

re: #450 lawhawk

As a Jew, I’m horrified by Bibi’s courting and going all in with the Kahanists.

These are the extremists who assassinated Rabin and want to expel non Jews from Israel (including the West Bank and Gaza). They are considered domestic terrorists, or were until Bibi decided to throw with them because his political survival depends on it with elections upcoming even as he’s indicted on bribery charges.

And yeah, I can be upset over Rep. Omar’s statement.

I’m also going to slam the fucking GOPers who decided to cast a nay vote on the house resolution, because they condone the very kinds of bigotry that they claim they’re against (the rationale from this bunch includes that it wasn’t specific to Rep. Omar, all while ignoring that Steve King and Steve Scalise are openly pushing white supremacy and going to white supremacist confabs, but the GOP put Scalise in one of the leadership posts and refuses to strip him of that role).

Yes. It didn’t even start with the Kahanists, though - the Israeli government has been rushing headlong to the far right for years now. It’s been appalling to see since Israeli society is mostly very liberal.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:38:50am

re: #446 jaunte

Well, at least they’ll have the signature of their new God…..so they’ve got that going for them, I guess.

460
HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:39:42am

re: #446 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Well that wouldn’t be the first time Trump signed a book he hadn’t read.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:40:36am

re: #458 Charles Johnson

Bibi has been running things since 2009, and before that Kadima was in power (Olmert following Sharon, who stroked out after the Gaza disengagement). Sharon recognized the demographics dilemma facing Israel and that if it wanted to remain a Jewish state, it had to do something. Bibi and the right wing fringe think that something is ethnic cleansing (removing non Jews from Israel).

The other political parties are fractured and ineffective, even as they oppose this and want strong security for Israel.

462
Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:46:17am

Hey, lookie here, it’s the replicator from Star Trek.

Why This 3D Light Printer Is A HUGE Game Changer

463
Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:48:53am

I went to go look up the Air Force Secretary thing. Heather Wilson is resigning to become president of UT El Paso.

464
Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:49:39am

re: #463 Belafon

When you scan the news, you find out she was part of the “Space Force” group.

465
Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:56:50am

Bill Shine has resigned as White House Communications director, to work on Trump’s campaign: cnn.com.

Edit: According to dailykos.com, he lasted about 25 Scaramuccis.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2019 • 11:56:51am
467
wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:02:25pm

re: #463 Belafon

I went to go look up the Air Force Secretary thing. Heather Wilson is resigning to become president of UT El Paso.

I heard something about that on the radio this morning, and my first thought was, ‘I wonder if she and Martha McSally had a conversation?’

468
sagehen  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:02:49pm

re: #412 calochortus

Two thoughts about Ms. Yang, et. al.

First, I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who want their pictures taken for posterity with people they’ve met but probably don’t really know.
Second, I can’t recall when I’ve seen such a display of a third (or fourth) social tier rich person showing off her connection to second (or third) tier rich people.

Kind of sad.

Maria Butina?

469
calochortus  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:05:40pm

re: #468 sagehen

Maria Butina?

Well, she presumably had a professional purpose in doing so.

470
wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:08:04pm

re: #467 wrenchwench

I heard something about that on the radio this morning, and my first thought was, ‘I wonder if she and Martha McSally had a conversation?’

I guess I coulda looked it up earlier:

[…]

Martha McSally and I have been friends for close to 20 years, and I have a greater respect for her today than I did two days ago [for] being a very strong and wonderful leader,” Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson told reporters at the National Air and Space Museum before a screening of “Captain Marvel.”
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“And I think she has handled this situation with a kind of steely grace that typifies Martha McSally,” Wilson added.

[…]

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:17:48pm

re: #434 KGxvi

We’re approaching the proverbial “dead girl/live boy” territory with this story, aren’t we?

Trump could be caught in bed with one of each at the same time and shout BUT PIZZAGATE!!!! WITCH HUNT!!!!

472
Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:18:45pm
New York City is on track to become a worldwide hub for innovation in the next few years, according to recent KPMG survey of more than 740 tech-industry leaders at companies across a dozen countries. More than half of survey respondents said Silicon Valley will cease to dominate global technology innovation within the next four years, as New York, Boston, London, and other cities continue their evolution into technology innovation centers. The rapid adoption of cloud computing and other emerging digital tools at ventures outside of the technology sector is also having an impact, according to corporate information technology leaders. Said KPMG’s Tim Zanni, “Other cities and countries have been making significant investment to develop and grow as technology innovation hubs.”

This further reinforces my idea that the Silicon Valley companies should spread out, take advantage of and take over states like Iowa.

473
Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:19:14pm
474
sagehen  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:19:47pm

Manafort’s Judge Gave This Jamaican Woman More Time for Similar Crimes
She conned victims out of $385,000. He conned banks out of $25 million. The judge gave her six years. He got four.

thedailybeast.com

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:21:55pm
476
lawhawk  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:24:47pm

re: #474 sagehen

Manafort’s Judge Gave This Jamaican Woman More Time for Similar Crimes
She conned victims out of $385,000. He conned banks out of $25 million. The judge gave her six years. He got four.

thedailybeast.com

Unfu…. NOPE.

Totally fucking believable.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:24:50pm

re: #475 Charles Johnson

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If only men did stay out of the abortion argument.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:26:56pm

re: #474 sagehen

Manafort’s Judge Gave This Jamaican Woman More Time for Similar Crimes
She conned victims out of $385,000. He conned banks out of $25 million. The judge gave her six years. He got four.

thedailybeast.com

There we go.

479
Belafon  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:29:04pm

re: #476 lawhawk

Unfu…. NOPE.

Totally fucking believable.

As the judge said, Manafort has lived an otherwise white life.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:30:43pm

re: #477 ObserverArt

If only men did stay out of the abortion argument.

Men can argue with other men about abortion. Or, respectfully, even with women, if they all want to. They just should not have the ability to tell a woman what she can do about it.

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sagehen  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:36:46pm

re: #479 Belafon

As the judge said, Manafort has lived an otherwise white life.

Legal observers and members of Congress react to Judge Ellis’ sentencing of Paul Manafort
dailykos.com

a comment from that page:

I have a friend who is a federal judge and he texted me tonight that Ellis (manafort’s judge) is the most racist fed judge living. He gave my friend’s 16 year old client 9 years for packaging cocaine when his family took him out of high school (forced him to quit) to pack cocaine.

The kid was doing homework on the side and trying to secretly graduate and he gave him 9 years.

He plead guilty and testified against his family thus getting a rec of probation from the prosecutor and fucking Ellis gave him 9 years.

Every possible reason for leniency was evident.

That’s who just gave Manafirt a nice deal.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:41:17pm

re: #480 wrenchwench

Men can argue with other men about abortion. Or, respectfully, even with women, if they all want to. They just should not have the ability to tell a woman what she can do about it.

Pretty much what I meant. And is there any way for men to argue about abortion without it becoming political? Usually it takes little time before it goes into a men’s control thing.

I still remember a few years back when I went to the Hillary Clinton campaign rally here in Columbus. There were several abortion protesters standing outside the entrance to the facility it was held at. All men.

483
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:43:05pm

re: #455 ObserverArt

Politics today is less about conducting political discourse and more about slinging shit. Especially with conservatives that also cry about split politics and deep divisions.

Tweets and Internet memes are not the way to carry on a serious and nuanced discussion about political issues, only to shout people down and demonize them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:45:13pm

re: #472 Belafon

This further reinforces my idea that the Silicon Valley companies should spread out, take advantage of and take over states like Iowa.

Internet

Overlords

Will

Assimilate

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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2019 • 12:55:42pm

re: #479 Belafon

As the judge said, Manafort has lived an otherwise white life.

Seen elsewhere: “Special Counsel was not able to prove that Manafort is black at trial.”


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