John Oliver’s Latest Brilliant Report: Robocalls [VIDEO]
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Robocalls are a growing problem. If only we could make the FCC care a little bit more about fixing it.
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The Invisible Hand of the Unregulated Free market is busy dialing your number right now as we speak
re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The Invisible Hand of the Unregulated Free market is busy dialing your number right now as we speak
For a limited time only… we are offering a deal for a value pack of calls from companies that have absolutely nothing to offer you.
I have a very elegant solution for robocalls… I block every fucking one that calls me. If you’re not important enough to be in my contacts, I don’t need to fucking hear from you.
I’ve got probably 100+ blocked numbers on my phone.
Did you bother to pick it up, you traitor rat dimwit?
Come on #CA22… aren’t you tired of being embarrassed by this moron?#Scabbers 🐀 https://t.co/kUq0NaGoHZ— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) March 11, 2019
May IS going to Strasbourg and will see Juncker tonight for face to face talks - sources say this does not mean there is definitely a deal
— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) March 11, 2019
The Brexit lunacy continues apace.
Also, the joke at Susan Collins’ expense was fucking perfect.
re: #3 KGxvi
I have a very elegant solution for robocalls… I block every fucking one that calls me. If you’re not important enough to be in my contacts, I don’t need to fucking hear from you.
I’ve got probably 100+ blocked numbers on my phone.
Or, lose the landline and just get a smartphone. They suck for actually making/receiving calls.
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re: #7 lawhawk
Or, lose the landline and just get a smartphone. They suck for actually making/receiving calls.
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Oh, I don’t have a landline, just my iphone. It’s very easy to block calls on that.
re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth
Nunes isn’t going to pick it up. He’s going to hope his landscaper does it (and what are odds that he’s hiring undocumented workers too).
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— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) March 11, 2019
Gov Ricketts: ““I am shocked and horrified to learn that this former staffer made these statements ” https://t.co/gnOHQjPWQm via @TPM
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) March 11, 2019
So you’re saying a Democrat asked a democratic nominee a question?
SHUT THE FRONT DOOR. https://t.co/L40WDImMG1— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) March 11, 2019
According to the Tax Policy Center, 63% of the additional tax cuts would go to the top 20% of taxpayers in 2026. In that year the top 1% would receive an average additional tax cut of $40,180 compared to current law.
— Richard Phillips (@taxjusticewonk) March 11, 2019
re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth
For what it’s worth, the 22nd district may be tiring of his bullshit. He did get 57.6% in the primary but dropped to just 52% in the two person general election. That’s down from 72% in 2014, and 67% in 2016 in the general elections.
re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth
He’s not shocked and horrified by the comments, he’s shocked and horrified that they’ve been made public.
there was a recent incident in Newport Beach, CA.
One of my college roommates ( 1978) lives there and attended this meeting. The back of his head is in the picture of the audience:
I have a few thoughts:
First, I don’t believe any of the kid/participants.
No, they (apparently) weren’t card carrying members of the “Atomwaffen Division” like this bozo who killed a gay, jewish college student in the same affluent area (someone he knew from high school).
Still this was not accidental or a joke, as they are claiming. They could have stopped anytime along the way when it became obvious, even to them, what they were doing.
Their asinine explanation is all a post hoc excuse to minimize the damage and their future reputations.
They knew what they were doing, and that it was wrong, and not a joke or funny while they were doing it.
And posting it on social media? Under any circumstance? They thought other people would ‘know’ they were joking?
No. Posting it just means they are stupid besides. that is unless they were trying to broadcast it.
Bravo for Wonder Woman >> Wonder Woman slams Netanyahu over his dirty politics and his crusade to make Israeli Arabs second-class citizens. https://t.co/sZcimfldF1
— Steven Greenhouse (@greenhousenyt) March 11, 2019
re: #3 KGxvi
I have a very elegant solution for robocalls… I block every fucking one that calls me. If you’re not important enough to be in my contacts, I don’t need to fucking hear from you.
I’ve got probably 100+ blocked numbers on my phone.
ditto
if you dont leave a message, you’re not looking for me
re: #16 Man, DangerMan
Newport and Costa Mesa are fairly wealthy towns. Like, you’re not going to find a house for less than a million dollars in Newport Beach, and condos are probably going to run in the high six figures. Costa Mesa isn’t quite as high dollar, but it’s close.
These kids are the types that should know better, and likely do know better. Which makes this even worse.
re: #18 Man, DangerMan
ditto
if you dont leave a message, you’re not looking for me
Hell, even the ones that leave messages get blocked. I might listen to the first one, just in case, but it’s getting blocked nonetheless.
re: #3 KGxvi
I have a very elegant solution for robocalls… I block every fucking one that calls me. If you’re not important enough to be in my contacts, I don’t need to fucking hear from you.
I’ve got probably 100+ blocked numbers on my phone.
Yeahbut, they are programmed to CHANGE THEIR NUMBER after every fucking call!
re: #8 KGxvi
Oh, I don’t have a landline, just my iphone. It’s very easy to block calls on that.
the one ‘mistake’ we made when dumping the house landline was porting it to googlevoice and then forwarding the calls to our cells. we were worried about doctors and other infrequent contacts losing touch with us totally
unfortunately the robocalls follow the landline #
it took a while to get the contact list current, so we could probably dump the google voice number now
one ‘advantage’ is calls to the google voice number transfer and ring both our cell phones. if i hear both phones ring, i dont budge. i let mrs dm get up
Reuters is reporting that the stricken Ethiopian airliner that crashed appeared to be trailing smoke and was shuddering before it crashed. This would tend to suggest something other than a software/control failure.
The Ethiopian Airlines plane that crashed killing 157 people was making a strange rattling noise and trailed smoke and debris as it swerved above a field of panicked cows before hitting earth, according to witnesses.
The black boxes have been recovered, so hopefully we might be able to get answers as to what happened.
re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth
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A) Nice “garden”.
B) Why the fuck is he littering in his own garden?
C) I’d be interested to know whether the trash service in his district is run through the municipality, which would be, you now, actual socialism.
re: #21 The Vicious Babushka
Yeahbut, they are programmed to CHANGE THEIR NUMBER after every fucking call!
Oh, I know, which is why I’ve literally got over a 100 numbers blocked.
re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth
What dopey victimization scam be next week for conservatives to literally grasp at?
This budget will result in the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans, by way of poisoning our air and water. https://t.co/tp4Z3Nllij
— Alex Wild (@Myrmecos) March 11, 2019
I do not want to hear about “pro-life” republicans. The GOP is a death cult made up of bad people who revel in the pain of others.
— Alex Wild (@Myrmecos) March 11, 2019
So, about DST…getting rid of it WOULD save time every year.
I feel like I spend about an hour going around changing clocks twice a year, every year…
re: #28 jaunte
Could you imagine if someone suggested cutting defense spending by 10%, let alone 32%?
re: #29 Sufficient unto the day…
So, about DST…getting rid of it WOULD save time every year.
I feel like I spend about an hour going around changing clocks twice a year, every year…
The two to three days of being groggy from the time change cost me time and money.
re: #30 KGxvi
Could you imagine if someone suggested cutting defense spending by 10%, let alone 32%?
We first have to repeal the tax bill in total. Of course, that’s not possible until we have control of the House, Senate, and Presidency.
Trump is a compulsive, absolutely pathological liar and Republicans are fine with that.
1. Republican donors know Donald Trump is mentally deficient
2. They still get surprised by how mentally deficient he actually is
3. They still give him money because even a broken moron can carry out their agenda
4. “It doesn’t even matter!”https://t.co/9taJMIZ8Ez pic.twitter.com/UMQLTB14Yl— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) March 11, 2019
re: #23 lawhawk
Reuters is reporting that the stricken Ethiopian airliner that crashed appeared to be trailing smoke and was shuddering before it crashed. This would tend to suggest something other than a software/control failure.
The black boxes have been recovered, so hopefully we might be able to get answers as to what happened.
Thing is, you’re going to see initial reports like that in something like 2/3 of crashes that have witnesses on the ground. I’m not saying people are lying, but the idea they saw a tube of 100+ folks about to die fly overhead just now seems to play tricks on them.
Plenty of crashes where flames and/or a mid-air breakup could 100% positively be ruled out where such reports surfaced in the first few days.
Maybe this bird was trailing flames. Maybe. But honestly, let’s wait for the FDR data before believing any of that. Initial photographs from the crash site suggest a very high vertical velocity at impact but even then, it probably shouldn’t take more than a few days for the black boxes to be found (and modern day digital recorders have very, very impact-resistant recording media).
re: #35 ThomasLite
Totally agree, which is also why I said that they have the FDR and VR so they might have a sense of what was going on in the cockpit and with the systems, and whether there was a mechanical failure, a systems failure, cockpit issue, or other issue (or combination of problems).
re: #17 lawhawk
Bravo for Wonder Woman >> Wonder Woman slams Netanyahu over his dirty politics and his crusade to make Israeli Arabs second-class citizens
We cannot tolerate anti-Semitism among our comic book heroines!!!
re: #19 KGxvi
Newport and Costa Mesa are fairly wealthy towns. Like, you’re not going to find a house for less than a million dollars in Newport Beach, and condos are probably going to run in the high six figures. Costa Mesa isn’t quite as high dollar, but it’s close.
These kids are the types that should know better, and likely do know better. Which makes this even worse.
spot on
one of the articles links to another story specifically about addressing that ‘privilege’
I’ve been busy this morning and I made a reply to a comment and posted it to then realize everyone moved on to this thread. Here is is again.
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Probably already mentioned but the Boeing DC 737-800 does have a manual override system for their anti-stall program. The problem seems to have been Boeing didn’t inform their customers enough on how this system works and how to override it manually. Many pilots were not informed of the new system, how it works and what to do if the sensor inputs get screwed up.
I saw an America pilot do a demo on how to shut it down. It seemed simple enough, but if you don’t know and in a panic situation you are screwed.
Seems like both Boeing and the airline companies needed much better communications. And both planes that have crashed recently are foreign companies operating them, so who knows how the communications went when trying to explain the new procedures.
re: #19 KGxvi
These kids are the types that should know better, and likely do know better. Which makes this even worse.
Alternate take:
These kids are exactly the types the take these ideas on board because they’re already used to being told they’re better than others.
re: #18 Man, DangerMan
ditto
if you dont leave a message, you’re not looking for me
My voicemail greeting was “do not leave a message because I don’t read them, call me back if you need to speak to me”. My voicemail box filled up soon after. I haven’t emptied it. I mean, really, text me if you need to but I will not be bothered to track down my phone when it rings. And it does “ring”, none of that nonsense of playing a cute melody. Git offa my lawn.
re: #41 jeffreyw
My phone plays the Doctor Who theme from the Tenth Doctor’s era.
New @davidfrum cover story just published: “America was built on the revolutionary idea, never fully realized, that those who labor might also govern—that every worker should be a voter… The immigration surge has the effect of setting this ideal back.” https://t.co/xEaTQ1UIgx
— Adrienne LaFrance (@AdrienneLaF) March 11, 2019
“Never Trump” David Frum parroting Trump on immigration.
re: #33 Hecuba’s daughter
We first have to repeal the tax bill in total. Of course, that’s not possible until we have control of the House, Senate, and Presidency.
Funny story…
My mom is an all in Trump supporter, she’s Team R whatever it means - despite being fairly liberal on social issues (pro-choice, pro-gay rights), she’s basically a one issue voter and that one issue is “lower taxes”.
So last week her accountant came by to do her taxes. Afterwards she was bitching because “those damn Democrats” screwed her by changing the rules on depreciation of real estate assets - making it longer rather than shorter (recently bought a building for the family business). When I reminded her that “no, that was your boy that did that with the tax cuts” she insisted it was the Dems.
re: #44 DodgerFan1988
Forestry, fishing, and farming are three of the most dangerous industries in the United States. They are 46 percent reliant on immigrant laborers, half of them undocumented. (Documented and undocumented immigrants together make up only 17 percent of the U.S. workforce as a whole.) Building and grounds maintenance is surprisingly dangerous work: 326 people died in 2017. Some 35 percent of grounds workers are immigrants. About 25 percent of construction workers are immigrants, but immigrants supply almost half the workers in the most dangerous areas, notably roofing and drywalling. When so many workers in a job category toil outside the law, the law won’t offer much protection.
Frum has things backward, blaming the labor force for lack of job protection.
Rather, he’s blaming them for lack of health and safety protections at their jobs. These are protections that conservatives want to take away from everyone. It’s not the fault of immigrating workers.
re: #34 goddamnedfrank
Trump is a compulsive, absolutely pathological liar and Republicans are fine with that.
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In addition to lying thay he never said “Tim Apple,” Trump also said Democrats hate Jews, he’d make a great Israeli PM, his Secret Service agents wear blackface, and Joe Biden was “the dummy.” To donors. Who donated to him https://t.co/miTERuTUTc pic.twitter.com/kGRdMVIdof
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) March 11, 2019
re: #44 DodgerFan1988
“Never Trump” David Frum parroting Trump on immigration.
In reality, slavery proves it wasn’t. In the abstract, women not being allowed to vote proves it wasn’t.
re: #3 KGxvi
I have a very elegant solution for robocalls… I block every fucking one that calls me. If you’re not important enough to be in my contacts, I don’t need to fucking hear from you.
I’ve got probably 100+ blocked numbers on my phone.
That doesn’t help when most of the time they are spoofing the numbers.
Those numbers you have blocked…call some and you might see they are bogus. You’ll get the no longer a working number or can’t place the call as dialed messages.
I get probably 6 to 10 a day. Mostly for credit card upgrades, health insurance and for medical devices like back and knee braces. A new one is someone calling saying they are looking at my AEP electric rates and want to give me a great rate.
I make the calls to who I want to do business with or not. I never give anyone anything over the phone in a call I didn’t make.
jeebus
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— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) March 11, 2019
“Heavy immigration has enabled the powerful—and the policy makers who disproportionately heed the powerful—to pay less attention to the disarray in so many segments of the U.S. population. Because the country imports so many workers, employers do not miss the labor of the millions of men consigned to long-term incarceration. Without the immigrant workers less prone to abuse drugs than the native-born, American elites might have noticed the opioid epidemic before it killed more Americans than died in the Vietnam, Korean, and Iraq Wars and the 9/11 attacks combined.”
Who is he kidding? The Sacklers ARE “American elites.” They don’t care if they kill Americans if that’s what it takes to get rich.
re: #51 ObserverArt
That doesn’t help when most of the time they are spoofing the numbers.
Those numbers you have blocked…call some and you might see they are bogus. You’ll get the no longer a working number or can’t place the call as dialed messages.
I get probably 6 to 10 a day. Mostly for credit card upgrades, health insurance and for medical devices like back and knee braces. A new one is someone calling saying they are looking at my AEP electric rates and want to give me a great rate.
I make the calls to who I want to do business with or not. I never give anyone anything over the phone in a call I didn’t make.
I ran into a problem with this system when I was getting my roof replaced. Allstate’s handlers work from their homes, and so I was ignoring numbers that didn’t say Allstate. I almost didn’t get my roof paid for.
re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Really? Nunes is going to make a big thing about plastic straws.
And this guy is an elected congressman.
I guess his district’s constituents must not be concerned about real stuff like healthcare insurance, fair taxation, etc.
The Women’s World Cup kits have been unveiled and they are really beautiful!
🚨 MAJOR KIT DROPS 🚨
Nike unveils all kits for all 14 nations it will outfit at the 2019 Women’s World Cup. #FIFAWWC pic.twitter.com/2Us7FmJzDS— The Equalizer (@EqualizerSoccer) March 11, 2019
re: #44 DodgerFan1988
There are people who will never stop pretending that from colonization onward, exploitation of cheap labor that specifically has less or no franchise has been a part of how our society functioned.
Enslavement, indenture, migrant labor, prison labor, outsourced labor…and now, gig economy jobs…are all expressions of the same thing.
Complaining about the people at the bottom in a position that they have to do that work is a built-in feature.
The current WH launders facts and reality, and would readily find a reuse for those white sheets among its followers and admin staffers. https://t.co/mPV0oupvr4
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 11, 2019
re: #56 plansbandc
But does it come with equal pay?
re: #51 ObserverArt
That doesn’t help when most of the time they are spoofing the numbers.
Those numbers you have blocked…call some and you might see they are bogus. You’ll get the no longer a working number or can’t place the call as dialed messages.
I get probably 6 to 10 a day. Mostly for credit card upgrades, health insurance and for medical devices like back and knee braces. A new one is someone calling saying they are looking at my AEP electric rates and want to give me a great rate.
I make the calls to who I want to do business with or not. I never give anyone anything over the phone in a call I didn’t make.
The spoof I’ve been seeing is that they use the same three digit prefix as my number. That way it “looks” like a local call. But it’s a cell number I’ve had since I was in high school (originally an “emergency only” phone) and I’ve never actually met anyone else with that same prefix. But yeah, anything that comes across with a toll free number or from out of area, it gets blocked; anything that doesn’t leave a message, it gets blocked; anything that does leave a message, it gets blocked.
I’m down to less than one a day, though my phone does still log the voicemails from blocked numbers. Which, I usually delete without listening to.
re: #34 goddamnedfrank
Trump is a compulsive, absolutely pathological liar and Republicans are fine with that.
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they dont care as long as they get what they want
i wonder if they realize what a dangerous game this is - playing with the unstable and unpredictable
- he could ‘snap’ and **boom**
- or reverse course and all of a sudden just run right over them
re: #60 KGxvi
I’m down to less than one a day, though my phone does still log the voicemails from blocked numbers. Which, I usually delete without listening to.
The voice recognition translations are great for rapidly removing unwanted calls from voicemail.
re: #55 ObserverArt
Really? Nunes is going to make a big thing about plastic straws.
And this guy is an elected congressman.
I guess his district’s constituents must not be concerned about real stuff like healthcare insurance, fair taxation, etc.
C’mon, Nunes. Get off the straws and get on the anti-hamburger tyrannies!
Asked if the White House denies that Trump is “Individual 1” in the SDNY case, Sarah Sanders refuses to answer, saying: “I’m not going to comment on an ongoing case.”
— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) March 11, 2019
Pathetic.
Asked repeatedly if Trump really thinks Democrats hate Jews, Sarah Sanders refuses to answer — and when asked again, she says you need to ask Democrats if Trump actually believes that Democrats hate the Jews. 🙃
— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) March 11, 2019
And we have to pay her for this.
CNN’s Jim @Acosta is in the White House Briefing Room for the first press briefing in 42 days.@BrookeBCNN: “Jim, you are in the room.”@Acosta: “We found it.”@BrookeBCNN: “You found it! You remember where it was.” https://t.co/QRh5wp1MYy pic.twitter.com/KjOsvcaw1f
— CNN Newsroom (@CNNnewsroom) March 11, 2019
Hey we are having a briefing! pic.twitter.com/sIlmyfSpgT
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) March 11, 2019
re: #61 Man, DangerMan
they dont care as long as they get what they want
i wonder if they realize what a dangerous game this is - playing with the unstable and unpredictable
- he could ‘snap’ and **boom**
- or reverse course and all of a sudden just run right over them
That’s been a theory floated since early in the primaries when the attack line was “he’s been a Democrat his whole life!”
But here’s the thing. They (those in positions of power and influence, at least) know that he isn’t a details guy, hell, he’s not even a big picture guy. He doesn’t read, he’s got the attention span of a gnat with ADHD. So they know that they can get him to sign off on whatever they put in front of him. They’ll tell him it says X when it most certainly says “Not X” and he’ll sign it because that’s what playing the role of president is to him, signing shit in fancy ceremonies and giving speeches. And he’ll go along with whatever as long as his approval ratings among Republicans remain high - that’s basically his 18-40 TV demographic for ratings. As long as that one number is good, he’ll keep signing shit.
re: #59 lawhawk
Not, unfortunately, for most teams. New Zealand gets equal pay, and Norway will also. I hope the US Women win their lawsuit.
re: #41 jeffreyw
My voicemail greeting was “do not leave a message because I don’t read them, call me back if you need to speak to me”. My voicemail box filled up soon after. I haven’t emptied it. I mean, really, text me if you need to but I will not be bothered to track down my phone when it rings. And it does “ring”, none of that nonsense of playing a cute melody. Git offa my lawn.
i have been trying to explain to my mother for years that if she calls me and i dont pick up, i see that she called
she will still leave a vm “hi, it’s me. call me back”
meanwhile we’re transitioning her to reading the NYT website on a big tablet rather than the printed paper because five out of seven days its not delivered. (i can teamviewer it from my house so i dont have to rush over there)
re: #64 jaunte
Actually… that’s the first smart thing she’s said in years. First accurate and vetted statement too.
You do not comment on active cases, especially when you’re speaking for the unindicted coconspirator in chief who is under investigation for widespread criminality cutting across multiple federal prosecutors plus the special counsel’s office, plus state investigators.
Oh, and I doubt anyone in the WH has gotten through to Trump that he’s this close to being indicted.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 11, 2019
re: #44 DodgerFan1988
New @davidfrum cover story just published: “America was built on the revolutionary idea, never fully realized, that those who labor might also govern—that every worker should be a voter… The immigration surge has the effect of setting this ideal back.”
“Never Trump” David Frum parroting Trump on immigration.
so immigrants aren’t ‘workers’?
asshat
“The president is the most accessible in modern history” Sarah Sanders says.
By Russia and China.
re: #73 jaunte
“The president is the most accessible in modern history” Sarah Sanders says.
By Russia and China.
and “our friends” the Saudis.
re: #51 ObserverArt
That doesn’t help when most of the time they are spoofing the numbers.
Those numbers you have blocked…call some and you might see they are bogus. You’ll get the no longer a working number or can’t place the call as dialed messages.
I get probably 6 to 10 a day. Mostly for credit card upgrades, health insurance and for medical devices like back and knee braces. A new one is someone calling saying they are looking at my AEP electric rates and want to give me a great rate.
I make the calls to who I want to do business with or not. I never give anyone anything over the phone in a call I didn’t make.
and i never click a link in an email. even verified ones from my bank, etc.
i always open a new window and use my chrome shortcuts
re: #73 jaunte
“The president is the most accessible in modern history” Sarah Sanders says.
By Russia and China.
You too can buy your access to Trump with a tidy sum to Mar a Lago, or operate a totalitarian regime and leverage business dealings with him as Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia have done.
Or use your influence as a massage parlor operator that also doubles as a human trafficking ring to get your Chinese pals contacts with highest levels of Trumpworld and GOP.
Or pay your way into the NRA to spread your noxious views as the Russians did.
re: #71 Charles Johnson
Why do we bother with these ten year projections? When was the last time we followed any projection for more than two years?
re: #64 jaunte
Asked if the White House denies that Trump is “Individual 1” in the SDNY case, Sarah Sanders refuses to answer, saying: “I’m not going to comment on an ongoing case.”
Pathetic.
- really, why wont you comment on an ongoing case?
- so it is an ongoing case?
- if so and he’s not individual 1 then why not say?
…oh….
i guess i didnt need to post this
re: #71 Charles Johnson
Trump budget proposes $845 billion Medicare cut
this is pointless theater
democratic house
. <——————————- that’s a period
re: #46 jaunte
re: #44 DodgerFan1988Forestry, fishing, and farming are three of the most dangerous industries in the United States. They are 46 percent reliant on immigrant laborers, half of them undocumented. (Documented and undocumented immigrants together make up only 17 percent of the U.S. workforce as a whole.) Building and grounds maintenance is surprisingly dangerous work: 326 people died in 2017. Some 35 percent of grounds workers are immigrants. About 25 percent of construction workers are immigrants, but immigrants supply almost half the workers in the most dangerous areas, notably roofing and drywalling. When so many workers in a job category toil outside the law, the law won’t offer much protection.
Frum has things backward, blaming the labor force for lack of job protection.
I’m sure these numbers are quite correct, but also sure that facts and figures are - at best - a minor-verging-on-irrelevant part of the “immigration debate”. ISTM to be mostly a matter of enforcing prejudices: tossing out “illegals” (and making sure the rest of Those People know their “place”) in the name of maintaining White Supremacy is
s the main driver of policy.
re: #74 KGxvi
and “our friends” the Saudis.
And our new great friend who loves the president, the NK guy.
So what else does the Trump budget call for?
It eliminates the remainder of Obamacare and cuts Medicaid funding by $300 billion by taking the $1.5 trillion Medicaid program, including Obamacare, and turns it into a $1.2 trillion block grant program (no details offered, since this is vaporware as with everything else Trump does).
Trump also ups defense spending and tries to use off book accounting to hide the extra spending from the bean counters.
Trump cuts Social Security disability spending by $25 billion and student loan programs by over $200 billion (because who needs student loan forgiveness programs, or affordable higher education where only those who can buy their way into Harvard as Jared did can go). Throw in another $21 billion in cuts to TANF.
This budget is a GOP wet dream of gutting the safety net and hurting those least able to endure the harsh policies.
It would also savage infrastructure spending, basic government operations and services, all while fixated on Trump’s border wall, and defense spending (which doesn’t even begin to touch on Trump’s nonstop attacks on our allies and partners, while giving North Korea all the leverage it could hope to want in South East Asia).
re: #46 jaunte
Frum has things backward, blaming the labor force for lack of job protection.
Nothing in his article is original. He’s just repeating the talking points from FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform).
Reporter: Why did the president write a check to Michael Cohen for $35,000 in August of 2017 while he was here in the White House? What was that money for?
Sanders: I’m not aware of the specific topic.— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) March 11, 2019
re: #72 Man, DangerMan
so immigrants aren’t ‘workers’?
asshat
I think the point is supposed to be that immigrants aren’t voters. There is a small point in that, when a tech company brings over a couple hundred workers from India who cannot vote, then it weakens workers’ voting strength. But it’s a small point.
re: #42 plansbandc
My phone plays the Doctor Who theme from the Tenth Doctor’s era.
Mine is the excited voice of Pingu the Penguin.
My son loves penguins & this show was on constantly when he was young. So he joked I should use it and I tracked down a ring tone of it :)
It … confuses people :D who don’t know it.
Heh.
Typo of the week (so far) via @YahooNews pic.twitter.com/paavHcUqzQ
— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) March 11, 2019
re: #85 Belafon
I think the point is supposed to be that immigrants aren’t voters. There is a small point in that, when a tech company brings over a couple hundred workers from India who cannot vote, then it weakens workers’ voting strength. But it’s a small point.
Quick fix: Make immigrant workers into citizen voters. That should allay Frum’s concern.
re: #82 lawhawk
always a tweet:
I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 7, 2015
Big question:
Who created Trump’s 2020 budget?
Like, it is clearly a wishlist of stuff that conservatives have wanted for decades, so who actually assembled the bits and pieces to create this budget? Who’s lobbied and spoken for the individual bits/pieces?
Because frankly, names need to named. Nothing Trump has done domestically has fallen outside what Republicans have been talking about doing, and it’s important that they not use him as a scapegoat.
re: #55 ObserverArt
Really? Nunes is going to make a big thing about plastic straws.
And this guy is an elected congressman.
I guess his district’s constituents must not be concerned about real stuff like healthcare insurance, fair taxation, etc.
Or farm policy: Nunes’ district is a big agricultural area: not sure if/how much they’ve been affected by Trump’s export policies, but they still returned Devin to Congress last time round (CA “blue wave” didn’t wash up to the 22nd). But given that his shabby record as Chair of the House Intelligence Committee in the last session is due for serious review (especially his covering-up for Trump) by the new Dem majority, one would think he’d want to keep a low profile.
But this straw nonsense is just typical of RW outrages-du-jour: a petty annoyance at worst: but, since it potentially affects so many people, a simpleminded excuse to pick at “nanny-state” eco-freaks hellbent on micro-manipulating everybody’s lives/habits.
Kind of on the “Green New Deal will make hamburgers illegal” level….
re: #17 lawhawk
Oh gee, lots of stuff in there about “dual loyalties”. Isn’t that anti-semitic? /tongue-in-cheek
re: #88 Decatur Deb
Quick fix: Make immigrant workers into citizen voters. That should allay Frum’s concern.
Yeah, I was going to say that immigrant workers are only non-voters at the beginning. Unless, of course, we’re talking about undocumented immigrants/workers. But that liberal pinko commie bastard Reagan had a pretty good solution to that problem in the 1980s.
If anyone caught the crazy guy explaining his theory on how he knows the earth is flat thought he was crazy you would be right. But he really is crazier than that.
I checked his YouTube channel because I wanted to see if he had any other crazy shit to say. He doesn’t have a lot of YouTube videos, many are of him playing guitar badly.
But this one is the mother lode of cray-cray. He is discussing Q, the great awakening and the walk-away movement along with some Christian sermonizing and Trump…of course.
It’s long, but all you need to do is click on a spot and listen for a moment, the click on another spot on the time line, etc.
All I will say is: “they” are out there. Beware!
re: #93 KGxvi
Yeah, I was going to say that immigrant workers are only non-voters at the beginning. Unless, of course, we’re talking about undocumented immigrants/workers. But that liberal pinko commie bastard Reagan had a pretty good solution to that problem in the 1980s.
Frum worked here 7 years, starting with a slot IN THE WHITE HOUSE, before becoming a citizen.
Ok great, now talk about Reagan and:
- Iran-Contra +
- The gutting of our mental health system +
- The explosion of homelessness under his watch +
- The crack epidemic
Maybe instead of insinuating I’ve never read a book, be open to the idea that we’ve read different ones. https://t.co/aP96oCCBwm— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 11, 2019
- HIV/AIDS crisis and demonization of LGBT+ community
- Union-busting
- Ending the Fairness Doctrine, which launched the polarized media environment we’re suffering from today
Why are we not supposed to talk about these things?— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 11, 2019
At a recent round table meeting of business executives, & long after formally introducing Tim Cook of Apple, I quickly referred to Tim + Apple as Tim/Apple as an easy way to save time & words. The Fake News was disparagingly all over this, & it became yet another bad Trump story!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 11, 2019
So, apparently Roseanne Barr now believes Michelle Obama is the reason she was fired. https://t.co/8DK6M6FPBo
Be cool if it was true though. A caped Michelle O cruising Gotham in a customized jet car, taking down racist douchewaffles one at a time? I’d watch that on Netflix.— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) March 11, 2019
re: #98 goddamnedfrank
That apple has left the barn, Donald.
Kudos to @PaulaReidCBS for asking these tough questions! https://t.co/6gTcpVJWEO
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 11, 2019
re: #98 goddamnedfrank
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Yeah, let’s put an exclamation point after it became another bad Trump story…boom!!!
It will never stop being bizarre and disturbing that Trump does this, even when he KNOWS everyone saw the video he’s lying about. https://t.co/xyhAPzLzJ6
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 11, 2019
re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth
No, it was the Obama Shadow Government Deep State
re: #98 goddamnedfrank
Meant to post my reply.
Wait, so after your pathetic lie over this stupid little thing fell apart, you’re now going to desperately spin it as some kind of efficiency life hack?
Way to prove that you’re not bothered, champ.— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) March 11, 2019
re: #103 Charles Johnson
And more importantly his target audience does not give a shit.
They know he’s lying and they just don’t care.
The GOP is defective. I’m beginning to think this multiverse is fucked up and it needs the Thanos finger snap after all.
re: #84 jaunte
“It was money. He paid him money, very good. Very honest President to pay money. It was just a check. Do you know DJT isn’t even taking his Salary because he’s just being a servant?”
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Trump’s budget asks for nearly $300 million to end the U.S. HIV epidemic within 10 years https://t.co/TysLhduHIN
— TIME (@TIME) March 11, 2019
Trump’s health care priorities are all kinds of fucked up. He’d screw tens of millions on Medicare/Medicaid/SSDI and then claims he’s going to end HIV/AIDS? He’s doing it by cannibalizing every other medical/health program out there.
Basic health services, including preventative health has a more beneficial and lasting effect (as does making sure that kids get proper meals, but Trump’s SNAP cuts would slash that too).
He’s not doing anything to expand vaccinations or call for ending any exemptions save for medical necessity.
He’s not doing anything except deflecting and dodging from the tax scam and gutting the safety net.
re: #103 Charles Johnson
The function of this kind of lying is not to obscure the truth, but to test who you have enough power over that they are willing to play along with the latest change.
Autocrats and narcissists have no use for the concept of validity. Truth, like everything else, is part of a power calculation. Veracity is relative to clout, just like morality is relative to clout, just like intelligence is moral to clout, etc.
re: #107 lawhawk
And more importantly his target audience does not give a shit.
They know he’s lying and they just don’t care.
The GOP is defective. I’m beginning to think this multiverse is fucked up and it needs the Thanos finger snap after all.
1. So what DJT said ‘Tim Apple’. It was very common people of him to have called him that. It was funny.
2. Actually DJT didn’t say ‘Tim Apple’. Shut up fake news libtard media!
3. OK, DJT said ‘Tim Apple’. So what? Hey look over there AOC said a thing.
re: #110 The Ghost of Quesos Past
The function of this kind of lying is not to obscure the truth, but to test who you have enough power over that they are willing to play along with the latest change.
Autocrats and narcissists have no use for the concept of validity. Truth, like everything else, is part of a power calculation. Veracity is relative to clout, just like morality is relative to clout, just like intelligence is moral to clout, etc.
I call it the Shibboleth of the Lie.
If you repeat a lie enough people believe it. We mistake repetition for accuracy. It is called the illusory truth effect. https://t.co/zDR25AHq4X
— Jennifer Gunter (@DrJenGunter) March 11, 2019
re: #109 lawhawk
Trump’s health care priorities are all kinds of fucked up. He’d screw tens of millions on Medicare/Medicaid/SSDI and then claims he’s going to end HIV/AIDS? He’s doing it by cannibalizing every other medical/health program out there.
Basic health services, including preventative health has a more beneficial and lasting effect (as does making sure that kids get proper meals, but Trump’s SNAP cuts would slash that too).
He’s not doing anything to expand vaccinations or call for ending any exemptions save for medical necessity.
He’s not doing anything except deflecting and dodging from the tax scam and gutting the safety net.
I’m surprised he hasn’t claimed credit yet for the two cured patients that have been announced.
Sanders falsely accuses Democrats of “agreeing on the fact that they are comfortable ripping babies from the mother’s womb, or killing a baby after birth.” pic.twitter.com/VhH7QpZJpP
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 11, 2019
And the press wanted some more briefing sessions for what again?
So Sarah can spread even more of Trump’s bullshit and lie and deflect, is that it?
Maybe there is some good in the public again seeing this crap go on and hopefully more and more people get sick of him and help vote him out in 2020.
But damn this is infuriating.
re: #84 jaunte
Reporter: Why did the president write a check to Michael Cohen for $35,000 in August of 2017 while he was here in the White House? What was that money for?
Sanders: I’m not aware of the specific topic.
sarah, do you have an actual soul?
The Wisconsin GOP really doesn’t like Milwaukee much, even though they … *checks notes* … held their own convention there last year. https://t.co/3pkQtPnXC7 https://t.co/UePV1lIE8V
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) March 11, 2019
re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus
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Tweak to the timeline, I wrote that the F&F segment came six weeks after the 2007 Times story. I misremembered/misread, the F&F segment happened in 2008. Apologies.
Oh, and this is what happened when Fox was asked for comment about it: https://t.co/L6yhjrdmo2 pic.twitter.com/ob9wJdCDsA— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) March 11, 2019
uh
BREAKING: Pelosi comes out against impeaching Trumphttps://t.co/VJq71C7F83
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) March 11, 2019
re: #120 Charles Johnson
He’s a national security threat. Is she out of her goddamned mind?
re: #42 plansbandc
My phone plays the Doctor Who theme from the Tenth Doctor’s era.
Mine is a dial-up modem handshake squeal.
THREAD
These are despicable lies that you are making up in order to fearmonger about abortion.
Legal abortion care does not involve infanticide. Let me repeat: No legal abortion provider is committing infanticide. Not a single one. You should be ashamed of yourself. https://t.co/XH63iJUHij— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) March 11, 2019
Listen to @Hegemommy and my latest podcast so you can rebut the claims of people like @MeghanMcCain who peddle lies about abortion providers killing newborns and who are fomenting violence against legal abortion providers.
SHAME ON YOU. #TeamLegal https://t.co/FlWfHaq3UU— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) March 11, 2019
Didn’t anybody ask Sarah about the Chinese spy selling access to Trump?
That Pelosi story is only breaking news because it’s an “official” announcement. Pelosi has said she’s not in favor of impeachment before, I remember reading about it.
She might change her mind if Mueller drops his report and the SDNY/EDNY/EDVA and NYS indictments come rolling in on everything from money laundering and wire fraud to conspiracy against the US.
As it is, Trump already engaged in high crimes via Cohen prosecution.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 11, 2019
She’s doing the calculus of whether impeachment will hand Trump and GOP enough to hold the Senate and WH as well as eat into the Democratic party control of the House.
Doing nothing isn’t the option I’d go for.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 11, 2019
I don’t agree with Pelosi here one bit, but I get that there’s a political calculus to win back the WH and Senate and not give the GOP a chance to retake the House.
The damage Trump has done is too great to avoid getting all this out in the open. Winning back the WH will not cure all the ills. An honest accounting of what the GOP did is absolutely critical.
re: #125 Charles Johnson
That Pelosi story is only breaking news because it’s an “official” announcement. Pelosi has said she’s not in favor of impeachment before, I remember reading about it.
Yup. Back when the Democrats retook the house and she was asked about impeachment then. I’m sure she’s still cool to the idea, but if Mueller and the EDNY/SDNY/EDVA continue to point to prosecution and far more serious crimes, it might change her tune and that of the caucus.
Still, the GOP controlled Senate means that the odds that Trump avoids removal is pretty high even if Trump is impeached by the House.
re: #127 lawhawk
Yup. Back when the Democrats retook the house and she was asked about impeachment then. I’m sure she’s still cool to the idea, but if Mueller and the EDNY/SDNY/EDVA continue to point to prosecution and far more serious crimes, it might change her tune and that of the caucus.
Still, the GOP controlled Senate means that the odds that Trump avoids removal is pretty high even if Trump is impeached by the House.
I can’t read the article because of the paywall. But the headline (which, let’s be honest, is going to get a lot of attention) of “he’s not worth it” is fucking stupid. If that’s based on something she said, it’s fucking stupid. If it’s a summary of her general tone, it’s fucking stupid. Every member of Congress takes an oath to protect and defend the constitution, Trump has spent two years playing the proverbial bull in a china shop with respect to the constitution and our system of government. If that’s not worth it, than nothing is.
re: #127 lawhawk
Yup. Back when the Democrats retook the house and she was asked about impeachment then. I’m sure she’s still cool to the idea, but if Mueller and the EDNY/SDNY/EDVA continue to point to prosecution and far more serious crimes, it might change her tune and that of the caucus.
Still, the GOP controlled Senate means that the odds that Trump avoids removal is pretty high even if Trump is impeached by the House.
And, right now, there’s nothing out there investigated and presented as the kind of evidence that could be used to call for impeachment. The Mueller report, as you said, or House investigations could change that.
re: #129 Belafon
And, right now, there’s nothing out there investigated and presented as the kind of evidence that could be used to call for impeachment. The Mueller report, as you said, or House investigations could change that.
The guys on Pod Save America always make this point: if the shit Trump says routinely on twitter were on a taped phone call or an internal memo, they’d be smoking guns. But he just does all his crimes in broad daylight and everyone’s like “well, what are you going to do?”
re: #126 lawhawk
I don’t agree with Pelosi on this because he’s done serious damage already. He’s an agent of a foreign adversary, a business criminal, and starting to lose what little brains he had to begin with. We’ve been mostly “OK” because we are cruising along on the inertia that a strong system has, but it wont last forever and is beginning to putter out. Shit will get really bad, really fast when it does and much of it will be irreparable.
We don’t have Mattis and Kelly stopping him from starting World War III anymore either. This is the emergency. He needs to be gone yesterday.
re: #120 Charles Johnson
re: #126 lawhawk
Pelosi knows that running the impeachment track will be a dead end once it hits the Senate (cf. Clinton)
Now if she’s thinking that criminal charges from the US and State(s) will be proffered while Trump is in office and avoiding the impeachment process? Now that is a road less traveled.
re: #98 goddamnedfrank
At a recent round table meeting of business executives, & long after formally introducing Tim Cook of Apple, I quickly referred to Tim + Apple as Tim/Apple as an easy way to save time & words. The Fake News was disparagingly all over this, & it became yet another bad Trump story!
and you have so much time on your hands you feel you need to set the record straight on this?
re: #130 KGxvi
The guys on Pod Save America always make this point: if the shit Trump says routinely on twitter were on a taped phone call or an internal memo, they’d be smoking guns. But he just does all his crimes in broad daylight and everyone’s like “well, what are you going to do?”
Mostly because there’s not actually been any real follow through. He’s really is kind of like the crazy uncle. Now, that memo Sessions signed that directs the DOJ to find something on Clinton? That would be the kind of thing that could get some people in trouble.
I wish the bar on Trump weren’t set so high, but with impeachment being as much of a political act as a legal one, we have to clear the people that were elected through gerrymandering and an overabundance of small states being conservative.
re: #120 Charles Johnson
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“unless…”
She’s lived in that environment 60 hrs per week for 17 terms.
re: #113 jaunte
Sanders falsely accuses Democrats of “agreeing on the fact that they are comfortable ripping babies from the mother’s womb, or killing a baby after birth.”
- some democrats or every single last one?
- any republicans agree on this fact? none? not even one?
idiot
re: #133 Eric The Fruit Bat
Pelosi knows that running the impeachment track will be a dead end once it hits the Senate (cf. Clinton)
Now if she’s thinking that criminal charges from the US and State(s) will be proffered while Trump is in office and avoiding the impeachment process? Now that is a road less traveled.
If Trump is the subject to a criminal indictment and they try to unseal that indictment, impeachment must happen. You can’t have the president running the country from a prison cell, or attempting to pardon himself and his family/staff (but I repeat myself), or ordering the charges dropped.
The whole reasoning behind “a sitting president can’t be indicted” is because all executive power in our system flows from the office of the president. He would effectively be on both sides of the “v” in United States v. Trump; he could tell the AG to drop the charges, and as the AG (and the US Attorney) serve at the pleasure of the president, the AG would have to follow the order or resign (or be fired). It’s the Saturday Night Massacre all over again, in that scenario.
Here’s the other thing, the special counsel regulations contain this provision (28 CFR 600.8(c)):
At the conclusion of the Special Counsel’s work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel.
That’s the report that everyone is waiting on. And if it includes a section saying, “we can (or have) prepared indictments for the following causes of action against the president (see exhibits A through ZZZ), but did not file them because of DOJ regulations/policy regarding the indictment of a sitting president…” the feces shall collide with the ventilation system in a very real and big way.
re: #137 Man, DangerMan
- some democrats or every single last one?
- any republicans agree on this fact? none? not even one?idiot
It’s simple bullshit. Zero Democrats are comfortable with killing a baby after it’s born.
re: #135 Belafon
Mostly because there’s not actually been any real follow through. He’s really is kind of like the crazy uncle. Now, that memo Sessions signed that directs the DOJ to find something on Clinton? That would be the kind of thing that could get some people in trouble.
I wish the bar on Trump weren’t set so high, but with impeachment being as much of a political act as a legal one, we have to clear the people that were elected through gerrymandering and an overabundance of small states being conservative.
Just because he doesn’t succeed in obstructing justice doesn’t mean that he’s not attempting to obstruct justice. It’s the act, not the outcome, that makes it a crime.
re: #128 KGxvi
I can’t read the article because of the paywall. But the headline (which, let’s be honest, is going to get a lot of attention) of “he’s not worth it” is fucking stupid. If that’s based on something she said, it’s fucking stupid. If it’s a summary of her general tone, it’s fucking stupid. Every member of Congress takes an oath to protect and defend the constitution, Trump has spent two years playing the proverbial bull in a china shop with respect to the constitution and our system of government. If that’s not worth it, than nothing is.
Her actual quote (bolding mine)
I’m not for impeachment. This is news. I’m going to give you some news right now because I haven’t said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I’ve been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.
re: #138 KGxvi
If Trump is the subject to a criminal indictment and they try to unseal that indictment, impeachment must happen. …
Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path,…
That would presumably be her “unless”.
re: #141 BeachDem
“compelling” and “overwhelming” I can understand, but “bipartisan”? She’s got to know by now that the entire GOP is complicit.
re: #126 lawhawk
Trump has done more criminal misconduct than every one of his predecessors - and that includes Nixon, Reagan, and Clinton.
…put together
re: #143 Interesting Times
“compelling” and “overwhelming” I can understand, but “bipartisan”? She’s got to know by now that the entire GOP is complicit.
Which is why a sucessful impeachment, with conviction, might be a no-go. (And if it works, we get Pence.)
re: #143 Interesting Times
“compelling” and “overwhelming” I can understand, but “bipartisan”? She’s got to know by now that the entire GOP is complicit.
And it takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict.
re: #141 BeachDem
Her actual quote (bolding mine)
I’m not for impeachment. This is news. I’m going to give you some news right now because I haven’t said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I’ve been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.
Scratch out the “bipartisan” part, and I’d agree. There’s nothing that would get true bipartisan support.
re: #145 Decatur Deb
Which is why a sucessful impeachment, with conviction, might be a no-go. (And if it works, we get Pence.)
Which I’m OK with. If we can remove Trump, we must. Then we deal with Pence.
re: #142 Decatur Deb
Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path,…
That would presumably be her “unless”.
I would fucking hope so; otherwise, impeachment is an utterly useless tool except for congressional Republicans to attack Democratic presidents for any reason they like.
re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth
Senator @BenSasse and I wrote an op-ed for @WSJopinion together on the need to protect babies who survive abortions. This should not be a partisan issue, please read here:
point to one instance where this has happened
Today is Trump’s 173rd time at his golf courses since becoming president — nearly 1 in every 4 days that he has been in office. Trump is golfing more than twice as often as Obama. And yet, here are some of the times that he slammed Obama for playing golf when he was president. pic.twitter.com/0wjYAIdBs0
— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) March 10, 2019
re: #150 ericblair
I would fucking hope so; otherwise, impeachment is an utterly useless tool except for congressional Republicans to attack Democratic presidents for any reason they like.
If most of one side and half of the other are actual honest, patriotic public servants it works as designed. Or maybe we’re talking about the here and now.
re: #142 Decatur Deb
Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path,…
That would presumably be her “unless”.
re: #144 Man, DangerMan
…put together
How many presidential crimes would you have to compile to reach Trump levels? He’s basically at the Harding/Teapot Dome level right? Just below Andrew “Crimes Against Humanity” Jackson?
re: #152 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
Brian should also compare the number of times Obama and Trump went to their respective private properties and golfed, thereby putting government dollars in their pockets.
re: #154 Man, DangerMan
That went all wrong for Timmy Turner.
A whole lotta men just got a whole lotta nervous.
(cough) Dershowitz (cough) https://t.co/gIFX98tsJN— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) March 11, 2019
re: #151 Man, DangerMan
point to one instance where this has happened
If Meghan were not John McCain’s daughter, not only would she not be “writing” editorials for the WSJ, she’d probably be hard pressed to come up with the cash to buy a subscription. My favorite moron Meghan moment:
re: #158 lawhawk
Nail them all, regardless of party.
re: #155 KGxvi
How many presidential crimes would you have to compile to reach Trump levels? He’s basically at the Harding/Teapot Dome level right? Just below Andrew “Crimes Against Humanity” Jackson?
forgetting the ‘put together’ part
i read something the other day, and didnt bookmark it - id have to bookmark most of the internet
it said that the drip drip drip of the trump admin coupled with his incessant lying, plus all the investigations now ongoing, coupled with the guilty pleas of all those people from with his gravitational pull, the likely interference if not actual complicity with hostile foreign governments, is by far the worst thing as scandal and danger to happen to the country, ever.
far worse than jackson, teapot dome (mere bribery), even watergate
and as a side note both watergate and the current russia investigation involve R’s breaking into D’s campaign offices - physical and virtual
re: #161 Man, DangerMan
forgetting the ‘put together’ part
i read something the other day, and didnt bookmark it - id have to bookmark most of the internet
it said that the drip drip drip of the trump admin coupled with his incessant lying, plus all the investigations now ongoing, coupled with the guilty pleas of all those people from with his gravitational pull, the likely interference if not actual complicity with hostile foreign governments, is by far the worst thing as scandal and danger to happen to the country, ever.
far worse than jackson, teapot dome (mere bribery), even watergate
and as a side note both watergate and the current russia investigation involve R’s breaking into D’s campaign offices - physical and virtual
If/when this fever breaks, a lot of people are going to look back at Trump and claim they didn’t support him. It’ll be slightly more believable than Nixon, if only because Nixon won really big in 1972. But I suspect that Trump will get the Nixon treatment without the redeeming “well, at least he did [positive policy here]” because Trump doesn’t even have that going for him.
It’s about time to put aside Mueller, indictments, impeachment—that’s relying on a deus ex machina. This deep in the cycle, the short path to getting rid of the pond scum is the hard way. We have to mount an unusually unified, unusually effortful, unusually expensive 2020 campaign.
re: #163 Decatur Deb
It’s about time to put aside Mueller, indictments, impeachment—that’s relying on a deus ex machina. This deep in the cycle, the short path to getting rid of the pond scum is the hard way. We have to mount an unusually unified, unusually effortful, unusually expensive 2020 campaign.
It is the straightest line. But Congress still has to do it’s job. We’re still 10 months from the first primary ballots being cast, we are still 18 months from ballots being cast in the general election.
re: #163 Decatur Deb
It’s about time to put aside Mueller, indictments, impeachment—that’s relying on a deus ex machina. This deep in the cycle, the short path to getting rid of the pond scum is the hard way. We have to mount an unusually unified, unusually effortful, unusually expensive 2020 campaign.
And hope Russia doesn’t fuck us all again.
re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg
And hope Russia doesn’t fuck us all again.
And hope that people are less suceptible to the propaganda. It would also help if the NSA does in 2020 what they did in 2018 on an even bigger scale.
re: #164 KGxvi
It is the straightest line. But Congress still has to do it’s job. We’re still 10 months from the first primary ballots being cast, we are still 18 months from ballots being cast in the general election.
Asking Congress to do its job is sending cheese by rat.
re: #163 Decatur Deb
We have to mount an unusually unified, unusually effortful, unusually expensive 2020 campaign.
Unicorn Hunting BernieBros are already trying to sabotage that.
re: #168 Jack Burton
Unicorn Hunting BernieBros are already trying to sabotage that.
Everyone who has a list of red lines and non-negotiables is trying to sabotage that.
re: #95 ObserverArt
Amazing to see how assholes will say anything to get that sweet sweet Wingnut Welfare Money!
Deus Ex Machina would be President Happy Meal dropping dead from a heart attack from the buckets of cholesterol and trans-fats he eats in his 70s like he’s still a 5 year old.
Or a resignation.
Impeachment is not.
re: #171 Jack Burton
Deus Ex Machina would be President Happy Meal dropping dead from a heart attack from the buckets of cholesterol and trans-fats he eats in his 70s like he’s still a 5 year old.
Or a resignation.
Impeachment is not.
It is right now with a Republican controlled Senate. The point being that if you’re hoping the Senate will remove him, you’re wasting your time.
re: #171 Jack Burton
Deus Ex Machina would be President Happy Meal dropping dead from a heart attack from the buckets of cholesterol and trans-fats he eats in his 70s like he’s still a 5 year old.
Or a resignation.
Impeachment is not.
It is this late in the term, from a standing start. In the best case we might dump him after the second inaugural ball.
Everyone seems to forget just how fast Congressional Republicans turned on Richard Nixon in 1974. The 180 happened in a matter of days after months of solid support.
re: #174 Jack Burton
Everyone seems to forget just how fast Congressional Republicans turned on Richard Nixon in 1974. The 180 happened in a matter of days after months of solid support.
What caused them to turn?
re: #174 Jack Burton
Everyone seems to forget just how fast Congressional Republicans turned on Richard Nixon in 1974. The 180 happened in a matter of days after months of solid support.
Not applicable — as has been said before, Democratic Senate as well as House AND there was no Faux News.
re: #172 Belafon
It is right now with a Republican controlled Senate. The point being that if you’re hoping the Senate will remove him, you’re wasting your time.
The question is whether there are 20 Republicans in the Senate that want to try and be president in 2020?
re: #174 Jack Burton
Everyone seems to forget just how fast Congressional Republicans turned on Richard Nixon in 1974. The 180 happened in a matter of days after months of solid support.
That was before the Dawn of the New Media Reality.
If there had been Fox News back then, Nixon would have served out his term.
re: #177 KGxvi
The question is whether there are 20 Republicans in the Senate that want to try and be president in 2020?
And the answer to that is no.
re: #175 Belafon
What caused them to turn?
The Smoking Gun Tape was played in public on August 1st. 6 days later, Senators Scott, Goldwater and House Leader Rhodes went to visit Nixon and Goldwater told Nixon point blank he would vote Guilty.
The next day, Nixon went on TV and said he would resign.
re: #180 Joe Bacon 🌹
The Smoking Gun Tape was played in public on August 1st. 6 days later, Senators Scott, Goldwater and House Leader Rhodes went to visit Nixon and Goldwater told Nixon point blank he would vote Guilty.
The next day, Nixon went on TV and said he would resign.
They could play a tape of Trump shooting a pregnant woman on 5th Avenue and they would all come to his defense…
re: #180 Joe Bacon 🌹
The Smoking Gun Tape was played in public on August 1st. 6 days later, Senators Scott, Goldwater and House Leader Rhodes went to visit Nixon and Goldwater told Nixon point blank he would vote Guilty.
The next day, Nixon went on TV and said he would resign.
Today’s Republican lawmakers and President are made of sterner shittier stuff.
Does anytime know William Lewis’s (I think that’s his name… Getting old sucks) LGF name so I could tag him on this?
It does not even matter if the attempt is successful.
A. It’s their fucking job. Democrats not pursuing this will be viewed as weak, giving tacit OK to his crimes, and making all of this we know to ‘not be normal’ normalized.
B. It will go to the Senate for trial, and everything will have to come out in the open. It’s at worst an opportunity to gather mountains of material for 2020 campaigns and beyond.
C. It will keep all of those bastards sweating and too busy to do too much more damage before Nov. 2020.
re: #185 Jack Burton
It does not even matter if the attempt is successful.
A. It’s their fucking job. Democrats not pursuing this will be viewed as weak, giving tacit OK to his crimes, and making all of this we know to ‘not be normal’ normalized.
B. It will go to the Senate for trial, and everything will have to come out in the open. It’s at worst an opportunity to gather mountains of material for 2020 campaigns and beyond.
C. It will keep all of those bastards sweating and too busy to do too much more damage before Nov. 2020.
It should be pursued, it can’t be relied on.
*sigh*
the more you rehearse the idea that the left won’t come together, the more likely it won’t.
Because you are feeding your own inner Skinner Box rat to shape that behavior.
In this context, the rollercoaster of emotion minute-by-minute as people do the Internet dozens results in everybody losing because it’s going to result in brain-eating stress and people falling back on honed, reflexive behavior.
Which is exactly what every single energy-sucking narcissist on Twitter who’s committed to “their way, or burn everything” has already done to themselves to get to their worldview.
This fight is literally against people so deep in nihilist hunger that their idea of a “win” is more chaos and confusion. They don’t need to hit specific objectives in politics to succeed, they just need the status quo to keep rotting. There’s no pyramid of conspirators with a single head, not even a Lernean Hydra with a common stomach. What we are fighting is an ecosystem’s worth of parasites—spiritual, economic, cultural—that all prosper while the host sickens, compete for prime viscera, and hope to fully colonize new hosts before the current one heaves over and most of its microfauna gets lysed.
re: #185 Jack Burton
It also means four of the top six Democratic candidates will be in the Capitol for the entirety of the trial. Which creates an interesting dynamic for the primary.
re: #163 Decatur Deb
It’s about time to put aside Mueller, indictments, impeachment—that’s relying on a deus ex machina. This deep in the cycle, the short path to getting rid of the pond scum is the hard way. We have to mount an unusually unified, unusually effortful, unusually expensive 2020 campaign.
maybe
at some point someone must speak for the Constitution
because the R’s and the media are not
re: #139 Decatur Deb
It’s simple bullshit. Zero Democrats are comfortable with killing a baby after it’s born.
This is what it’s coming from. Some babies are born so sick or so damaged by birth defects they are not going to live long. What doctors do is provide end of life palliative care.
That looks like killing to Sanders, McCain and the rest of them. Because we should be throwing every medical procedure at a mortally ill newborn. These people exist under the delusion that there’s NEVER a reason for an abortion to save the mother’s life, that pregnancy is basically a walk in the park. And newborns can’t die after birth.
That is what we’re contending with here.
re: #183 MsJ
Does anytime know William Lewis’s (I think that’s his name… Getting old sucks) LGF name so I could tag him on this?
Got it. Will follow up as soon as I get home from work tonight.
Another argument for a robust immigration system:
Researchers call it the “demographic transition.” Americans over 65 are now the fastest-growing age group in the country. The U.S. Census projects that by 2035, the population past retirement age will outnumber the population under 18 for the first time in history. While younger, more diverse generations have captured the media narrative about U.S. politics, its defining feature in the future may be its oldest participants.
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America’s current demographic makeup, Frey said, is unprecedented. Due to rising longevity, falling birth rates and the sheer number of baby boomers (currently between 55 and 73 years old), today’s older Americans have held onto power longer than any previous generation. In 1950, as the boom began, just 8 percent of Americans were over 65; the United States had more people under 25 than over 45. By 2010, when the boomers began to retire, those numbers had flipped and the share of the population over retirement age had increased by 50 percent.
Their power goes beyond raw numbers. Older Americans are more likely to vote than millennials and Gen Xers, particularly in midterm and primary elections. They are three times more likely to donate to political campaigns. Plus, they are clustered in rural and sparsely populated states, giving them disproportionately large Senate and Electoral College representation. This partly explains why the average member of Congress is now 58.6 years old, roughly a decade older than they were in 1981 and two decades older than the population at large.
Without immigration, we could eventually end up in a situation like Japan had, with a “lost decade.”
re: #190 mmmirele
This is what it’s coming from. Some babies are born so sick or so damaged by birth defects they are not going to live long. What doctors do is provide end of life palliative care.
That looks like killing to Sanders, McCain and the rest of them. Because we should be throwing every medical procedure at a mortally ill newborn. These people exist under the delusion that there’s NEVER a reason for an abortion to save the mother’s life, that pregnancy is basically a walk in the park. And newborns can’t die after birth.
That is what we’re contending with here.
This has nothing to do with critically ill babies. We are contending with Gosnell here. Every Republican on this planet is familiar with Gosnell and has been for years. They treat every doctor who performs an abortion as being another Gosnell; that is the most important storyline they regurgitate on a regular basis. Even my RW brother who cares little about the social issues brings up Gosnell on a regular basis whenever choice is discussed.
re: #192 KGxvi
Another argument for a robust immigration system:
Without immigration, we could eventually end up in a situation like Japan had, with a “lost decade.”
Japan is just now opening up immigration to some skilled and semi-skilled people. And they know they’re sitting on a demographic time bomb.
re: #141 BeachDem
Her actual quote (bolding mine)
I’m not for impeachment. This is news. I’m going to give you some news right now because I haven’t said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I’ve been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.
I am amazed how so many can say Nancy Pelosi knows her stuff and is in control of things, etc., were glad she was voted as Speaker of the House, got her committees in order, made Trump’s government shutdown look a stupid stunt and all that, yet a hinky story comes out of WaPo saying “he’s just not worth it” and everyone complains.
Is she good or not?
I’m going with she is good and she knows what she is doing. She can read the tea leaves and she can read the senate.
She simply doesn’t have enough to get the senate against Trump. And everyone should know damn well that Mitch will block any attempt to impeach Trump in the senate. He will only allow it if it is impossible for him to stop it to save his party.
If the Democrats come up with impeachment proceedings and it goes to the senate and goes nowhere what will that look like to the voting public?
I think it will be seen as the Democrats are playing political games when they should be fixing things.
That is already the main way it is framed by our media. That is how the Republicans will frame it, and a good portion of America will go with it because the media will remind them.
Look at what we bitch about now with the media. We were all upset with how they are running articles basically saying the Democrats are protecting an antisemite. I can see the fun they will have with impeaching Trump with no real evidence. Why no evidence? Because no one has made anything stick.
Yet.
I think Pelosi is being cagey. She is being Pelosi. She knows if she gets the goods she can backdoor Trump and the Republicans and go to America with the justifications.
Keep in mind Trump runs around saying “No Collusion…no obstruction all the time. You know what he is going to say now?
Trump probably: “Nancy Pelosi says there will be no impeachment. Thank you Nancy!”
And he will get comfortable. And a comfortable Trump is a sloppy Trump. He’ll call off his dogs and the Democrats can work in the background better.
And don’t forget…there is an election to win. If the Mueller report isn’t a barn-burning, clear-as-all-get-out indictment, an impeachment will be seen as an election stunt.
Yes, I’d love to see Trump impeached too. But I am trying to be realistic. Come on folks, let’s trust Pelosi. She is better at all this than I am. Is she better at it than you?
re: #148 Mike Lamb
Scratch out the “bipartisan” part, and I’d agree. There’s nothing that would get true bipartisan support.
And if there is no bipartisan support…there is no impeachment. It is that simple.
A cat sees a puma on the TV and zip!
re: #192 KGxvi
Another argument for a robust immigration system:
….
Due to rising longevity, falling birth rates and the sheer number of baby boomers (currently between 55 and 73 years old), today’s older Americans have held onto power longer than any previous generation.
….
Without immigration, we could eventually end up in a situation like Japan had, with a “lost decade.”
Longevity in the US actually dropped slightly the last couple years — don’t assume that it will necessarily resume its upward course. Stress and unhealthy life style can take its toll.
re: #174 Jack Burton
Everyone seems to forget just how fast Congressional Republicans turned on Richard Nixon in 1974. The 180 happened in a matter of days after months of solid support.
Not everyone. Some of us lived it and know how it worked. And there was a Democratic senate. The 18 minutes of missing tape changed everything.
re: #177 KGxvi
The question is whether there are 20 Republicans in the Senate that want to try and be president in 2020?
There is not now and there won’t be because they are all scared of Trump’s base.
Look at my senator, Rob Portman. He is considered a moderate, blah, blah. He has already endorsed Trump for 2020. What does that tell you? He is a scared wimp.
re: #199 ObserverArt
However, we’re over 4 decades past when those type of Republicans were in office. The current gang is dominated by reactionary theocrats and they will have a much harder time turning on Trump than the Republicans of the early 1970’s did to Nixon.
re: #201 freetoken
And we never did put a President out of office by impeachment. Nixon jumped—Trump won’t.
re: #196 ObserverArt
And if there is no bipartisan support…there is no impeachment. It is that simple.
Sure. I think Pelosi is angling for something that would ensure a conviction by the Senate (there is unlikely to be anything that would get sufficient GOP support) OR evidence that would make the GOP look terrible for failing to get on board (more likely). She is trying to ensure that the GOP pays a political price for ignoring what’s in front of their face.
Acting OMB director says POTUS is keeping promises to seniors by not making changes to Medicare and Social Security.
Budget released today reduces Medicare spending $845 billion over 10 years.https://t.co/CAXnE2ELnS https://t.co/tUAotE5ngQ— Trip Gabriel (@tripgabriel) March 11, 2019
re: #203 Mike Lamb
Sure. I think Pelosi is angling for something that would ensure a conviction by the Senate (there is unlikely to be anything that would get sufficient GOP support) OR evidence that would make the GOP look terrible for failing to get on board (more likely). She is trying to ensure that the GOP pays a political price for ignoring what’s in front of their face.
Unfortunately the only people who can truly make sure the GOP pays that price are the voters…and the GOP is doing to do everything they can to stop that.
re: #200 ObserverArt
There is not now and there won’t be because they are all scared of Trump’s base.
Look at my senator, Rob Portman. He is considered a moderate, blah, blah. He has already endorsed Trump for 2020. What does that tell you? He is a scared wimp.
Speaking of Ohio scared wimps, how nervous do you think Les Wexner is about more Epstein stuff coming out? Les, the only client Epstein made public; access to “models,” put Epstein on various boards; per Forbes, “Leslie Wexner, billionaire founder of The Limited clothing chain, was widely believed to be his benefactor for years and the major source of his wealth.”
I’m guessing ole Les is sweating bullets.
The party of Lincoln and….. escorts https://t.co/KDFgnAYmRY
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) March 11, 2019
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re: #206 BeachDem
Speaking of Ohio scared wimps, how nervous do you think Les Wexner is about more Epstein stuff coming out? Les, the only client Epstein made public; access to “models,” put Epstein on various boards; per Forbes, “Leslie Wexner, billionaire founder of The Limited clothing chain, was widely believed to be his benefactor for years and the major source of his wealth.”
I’m guessing ole Les is sweating bullets.
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This entire clip is Orwellian https://t.co/3nVw7DNGHq
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) March 11, 2019
Hakeem Jeffries was just on Ari Melber’s The Beat and pretty much said what some of have been thinking when answering Ari’s questions about the WaPo impeachment story.
He said if everyone noticed, the Democrats didn’t run on anything saying they were going to impeach Trump. They basically stayed away from it for political reasons.
They ran on fixing healthcare, economy, jobs, environment and fixing corruption in Washington.
He said that is what they are doing. I think the mention of corruption is a hint at all the investigations they have going on.
And then he basically said if there are clear impeachable offenses revealed, they will look at impeachment.
re: #215 Eventual Carrion
“Trump” has never been a great name for a sexytimes brand.
re: #207 jaunte
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Because fuck that damned Emoluments Clause!
re: #219 jaunte
Closing my eyes and thinking of Trump behind bars. Nice.
re: #207 jaunte
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They will use the Chinese characters for “little mushroom head.”
re: #131 Jack Burton
I don’t agree with Pelosi on this because he’s done serious damage already. He’s an agent of a foreign adversary, a business criminal, and starting to lose what little brains he had to begin with. We’ve been mostly “OK” because we are cruising along on the inertia that a strong system has, but it wont last forever and is beginning to putter out. Shit will get really bad, really fast when it does and much of it will be irreparable.
We don’t have Mattis and Kelly stopping him from starting World War III anymore either. This is the emergency. He needs to be gone yesterday.
Until there is a Senate that will convict trump ain’t going nowhere. And if the House impeaches and the Senate “trial” finds him “not guilty” how does that play to the millions of barely sentient Americans?
Tucker Carlson’s defenders dismiss the comments as being a decade old. But, uh, he’s defended statutory rape as recently as 2017. https://t.co/uZOUTxu0oc
— Andrew Kirell (@AndrewKirell) March 11, 2019
re: #210 ObserverArt
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re: #224 BeachDem
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re: #203 Mike Lamb
Sure. I think Pelosi is angling for something that would ensure a conviction by the Senate (there is unlikely to be anything that would get sufficient GOP support) OR evidence that would make the GOP look terrible for failing to get on board (more likely). She is trying to ensure that the GOP pays a political price for ignoring what’s in front of their face.
A reminder of another difference between potential Trump impeachment and the Nixon hearings: the VP that would replace Nixon was not Agnew but Ford, a person of solid reputation that all sides could accept. If Trump departs, the replacement is Pence, a man who would continue all the damaging domestic policies proposed by the Trump administration and a man who is a true ideologue and theocrat. Yes, he probably wouldn’t violate the emoluments clause but we really don’t know how close he is to Putin, given that he was Manafort’s selection for VP.
This is kind of fun. Dogs band together and form a union. They must be liberals.
ESPN - Peeved pets: Iditarod lead lost as dogs quit
ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Musher Nicolas Petit lost a huge lead in the Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race on Monday when his dog team refused to keep going after he yelled at one of the animals.
A dog named Joey had been fighting with another dog on the team and jumped it during a break on the way to the Bering Sea checkpoint of Koyuk.
“I yelled at Joey, and everybody heard the yelling, and that doesn’t happen,” Petit told the Iditarod Insider website. “And then they wouldn’t go anymore. Anywhere. So we camped here.”
Several mushers passed Petit’s team on the trail, erasing his five-hour lead in the race. Pete Kaiser of Alaska was the first musher into Koyuk, followed about an hour later by defending champion Joar Ulsom of Norway.
The checkpoint is 827 miles (1,330 kilometers) into the 1,000-mile (1,600-kilometer) race across Alaska.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a frequent critic of the race, didn’t immediately return a message seeking comment Monday.
Petit said his dogs are well-fed and there’s no medical issue keeping them from getting up and running.
“It’s just a head thing,” he said. “We’ll see if one of these dog teams coming by will wake them up at all.”
…more at link…
re: #225 ObserverArt
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Trump’s actual signature. #economicdisaster pic.twitter.com/fLxkaX3bFp
— meta (@metaquest) March 11, 2019
New app literally helps Trumpers identify “safe” spaces to be Trumpers, restaurants, bars, bootlickeries https://t.co/0qMzxEWZ3H
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) March 11, 2019
Snowflakes
re: #222 Old Liberal
Until there is a Senate that will convict trump ain’t going nowhere. And if the House impeaches and the Senate “trial” finds him “not guilty” how does that play to the millions of barely sentient Americans?
We know exactly how that went. See Clinton.
From a pure political perspective, this is - by far - the most radical, unpopular proposal that any 2020 candidate had put forward thus far.
Every Democrat should be talking about this every day. Start running the ads now and don’t stop until Election Day. https://t.co/OfHHQHQf2a— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) March 11, 2019
re: #233 Belafon
We know exactly how that went. See Clinton.
Of course Clinton was charged only with lying about a consensual relationship with an adult woman. BUT the members of the RW conspiracy had a host of other accusations that they promoted on their various media platforms, including the pre-Murdoch WSJ. They accused the Clintons of criminal activities regarding Whitewater, of involvement in the death of Vince Foster, involvement in the deaths of various people back in Arkansas, involvement in the death of Ron Brown his Secretary of Commerce, etc. So they would have claimed that slick Willie was a crime mastermind who escaped responsibility for all of his other nefarious activities.
There has to be solid evidence of Trump’s participation in a range of substantial criminal activities and not just paying off a porn star or silencing women who alleged sexual indiscretions.
Funniest thing to come across my Twitter feed in a while:
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should… https://t.co/oBKYZ9Ilsh
— Jeff Goldblum (@jeffreygoldbIum) March 9, 2019
re: #236 freetoken
Whoops, wrong tweet. That was cute too, but this is the one I want:
how do you defeat the laser crab of capitalism. the answer is obvious pic.twitter.com/xbkXGZMkKR
— BAKOON (@BAKKOOONN) March 11, 2019
re: #236 freetoken
On the one hand, a T-Rex running down the 405 seems like a bad idea. On the other hand, a T-Rex running down Pennsylvania Ave seems like a brilliant idea. And on the other, other hand, I am kind of curious what a dino burger and/or omelet would taste like.
re: #238 KGxvi
On the one hand, a T-Rex running down the 405 seems like a bad idea. On the other hand, a T-Rex running down Pennsylvania Ave seems like a brilliant idea. And on the other, other hand, I am kind of curious what a dino burger and/or omelet would taste like.
Chicken.
re: #237 freetoken
Whoops, wrong tweet. That was cute too, but this is the one I want:
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That is AWESOME. That would get my +10 for the month.
re: #240 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Chicken.
…because they’re related. But you have to be able to get them into the same kitchen.
I am very annoyed by Canadian and British immigrants like Andrew Sullivan and David Frum writing that they are the good kind of immigrants, and that immigrants from countries in Asia and Africa must be kept out to preserve “cultural cohesion”.
— Noah Smith 🐇 (@Noahpinion) March 11, 2019
If they’re not white, it’s not right.
I handed @CFPBDirector Kraninger a calculator and asked her to calculate the APR on a payday loan. She couldn’t. And she’s supposed to be the top government official protecting consumers from predatory lending practices? pic.twitter.com/35lL0GWPAO
— Rep. Katie Porter (@RepKatiePorter) March 11, 2019
re: #199 ObserverArt
Not everyone. Some of us lived it and know how it worked. And there was a Democratic senate. The 18 minutes of missing tape changed everything.
There was also no Fox News.
re: #242 wrenchwench
…because they’re related. But you have to be able to get them into the same kitchen.
Alton Brown on Good Eats used a dinosaur model to show you how to dismember a chicken.
About that 2020 budget.
Right or wrong, the GOP has decided to lick the third rail of US politics…and while they’re not bright, they are deliberate.
Either they estimate that they can win anyway, or this is some kind of all-in cash grab before scarpering and leaving Dems to clean up the mess.
re: #246 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I prefer the Yan Can Cook version. Martin Yan likes to de-bone a chicken in a few minutes if not less.
re: #243 DodgerFan1988
Which is why certain conservatives are mad at the EU, and to a lesser degree, Australia/NZ. Things are far too well for white immigration in general. It takes a lot for mass people to leave a nation, and the white immigrants aren’t leaving. And ones who are still struggling like Russia, can just go to the EU and from there, settle in France, Germany and wherever and just drive back and forth. Even the Irish are doing much better these days. And our lack of health care, and nasty border issues, are mostly keeping Canadians back in Canada.
No doubt about it. Tucker Carlson is one sick fuck. https://t.co/HEjHmRA2ys
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 12, 2019
This kind of asshole posturing is pretty common among the upper-echelon far right, though. And he wouldn’t be a star at Fox News unless he fit right in with their executive culture.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 12, 2019
re: #247 The Ghost of Quesos Past
About that 2020 budget.
Right or wrong, the GOP has decided to lick the third rail of US politics…and while they’re not bright, they are deliberate.
Either they estimate that they can win anyway, or this is some kind of all-in cash grab before scarpering and leaving Dems to clean up the mess.
They know the Democratic House won’t pass it, but they will attempt to argue that they’re being fiscally responsible while believing that their base won’t care what they said they wanted to pass.
One thing to remember is that the middle class went for Republicans more than the lower class did.
re: #247 The Ghost of Quesos Past
About that 2020 budget.
Right or wrong, the GOP has decided to lick the third rail of US politics…and while they’re not bright, they are deliberate.
Either they estimate that they can win anyway, or this is some kind of all-in cash grab before scarpering and leaving Dems to clean up the mess.
This is not really new — Bush tried to privatize Social Security in 2005 — and the effort failed. Democrats won in 2018 on health care — they can do the same in 2020 on protecting Social Security and Medicare and paint the GOP as the villains here.
re: #252 Hecuba’s daughter
paint the GOP as the villains here.
Single coat of varnish will do. Lightly sanded.
The know-nothing-ism that propels Trump’s success:
Iowa Poll: Iowa’s registered Republicans are not worried about climate change threats
Thirty-five percent of Iowa’s registered Republicans believe climate change poses no real threat to the planet, the newest Des Moines Register/CNN/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows.
Forty-four percent of Iowa Republicans say they believe climate change is a minor threat, and 14 percent say it’s a major threat. Six percent aren’t sure.
[…]
“I just don’t buy the science,” said poll participant Lynette Stubbs, a retiree who lives in Moville, a town of about 1,620 near Sioux City.
[…]
“That may be happening, but it’s not because of anything we’re doing either positively or negatively,” said poll respondent Orlan Huizenga of Orange City.
“The good Lord above would not make a world that couldn’t sustain itself,” he said.
[…]
re: #253 wrenchwench
Single coat of varnish will do. Lightly sanded.
To hell with lightly sanded. Belt sander with 40 grit.
re: #254 freetoken
Sigh…
The planet CAN sustain itself, but not when humans keep fucking with it.
It’s like it never occurs to them that God just might want us to be good stewards of the earth.
I guess my point is that Tucker Carlson is not THE problem. He’s just one head of the hydra.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 12, 2019
re: #255 Eventual Carrion
To hell with lightly sanded. Belt sander with 40 grit.
OK, dust it, then varnish after.
I just read that the Blue Ridge Mountains were part of the same range that now forms the Scottish highlands.
No wonder the Scots feel at home there, and there are Highland Games.
In the Trump era, what does Fox News have to lose by dropping the pretense that they don’t push a white nationalist viewpoint? With Trump in the White House they’re on top of the world. Let it all hang out. Be the racist news network and be proud.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 12, 2019
re: #254 freetoken
The know-nothing-ism that propels Trump’s success:
Iowa Poll: Iowa’s registered Republicans are not worried about climate change threats
“That may be happening, but it’s not because of anything we’re doing either positively or negatively,” said poll respondent Orlan Huizenga of Orange City.
“The good Lord above would not make a world that couldn’t sustain itself,” he said.
Orlan, you are obviously a Christian. Now what was that great flood Bible story about again?
Wait, you are an ignorant Christian. Use your head dumbass.
Point #2 straight from Christian teachings: God can do anything, even choke off a bunch of ignorant Christians with a fouled air.
And what was God doing with the flood? He was eliminating sinners.
Who would the sinners be today? They would be Christians like you that ignore science and protecting His creation.
Big problem though, a lot of innocent people pay for it too.
Pay attention to your Bible studies Orlan, you’re failing.
re: #9 lawhawk
Nunes isn’t going to pick it up. He’s going to hope his landscaper does it (and what are odds that he’s hiring undocumented workers too).
Don’t worry. Your undocumented landscaper will pick it up.
— Tree Trunks (@efuseakay) March 12, 2019
Current mood. pic.twitter.com/C6pBAvEDCR
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 12, 2019
askeert deflection is obvious when a moron feels the need to retweet something from 2017:
Kate Steinle.Sarah Root.Grant Ronnebeck.We willl no longer be bystanders to these crimes committed by illegal aliens. #SaveAmericanLives pic.twitter.com/ar7LKfpeSu
— Rep Andy Biggs (@RepAndyBiggsAZ) June 29, 2017
re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth
askeert deflection is obvious when a moron feels the need to retweet semething from 2017:
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A bunch of kids get shot up in a school and no one bats an eye.
THREE people get killed by individuals with questionable immigration status and it’s national fucking news.
So infuriating.
re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth
For every one of those homicides, I have a mass shooting with dozens of victims each.
For Kate Steinle, I give you the Las Vegas shooter
For Sarah Root, I give you Sandy Hook shooter.
For Grant, I give you the Charleston shooter.
And then there are the other garden variety homicides with Americans murdering their fellow Americans and the GOP and right wing nutters think that it normal and acceptable.
Fuck them all. The GOP oozes blood from their failure to act on actual threats, rather than these perceived ones.
re: #269 wrenchwench
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I am just so impressed with the action in the face of the mother of all fire obstacles.
re: #262 ObserverArt
Orlan, you are obviously a Christian. Now what was that great flood Bible story about again?
Wait, you are an ignorant Christian. Use your head dumbass.
Point #2 straight from Christian teachings: God can do anything, even choke off a bunch of ignorant Christians with a fouled air.
And what was God doing with the flood? He was eliminating sinners.
Who would the sinners be today? They would be Christians like you that ignore science and protecting His creation.
Big problem though, a lot of innocent people pay for it too.
Pay attention to your Bible studies Orlan, you’re failing.
The flood story is a bad one to pull up actually because the point of rainbows is to remind us that God will never do something like that again. On the other hand, there are plenty of stories to pick from where man became so wicked that God allowed the Israelites to be conquered.
re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth
I am just so impressed with the action in the face of the mother of all fire obstacles.
Trying to save one’s own unit. Look how wet that wall is.
re: #273 Belafon
He’ll never do something like that… he’ll do something totally different and awful instead.
Maybe a drought this time. Famine. Decaying protection from the atmosphere from solar radiation means the planet is bombarded with cosmic rays and becomes uninhabitable.
You know… all those doomsday scenarios where the sci-fi dystopias actually understate how bad it gets.
re: #174 Jack Burton
Everyone seems to forget just how fast Congressional Republicans turned on Richard Nixon in 1974. The 180 happened in a matter of days after months of solid support.
The Republicans today have no soul left.
re: #273 Belafon
The flood story is a bad one to pull up actually because the point of rainbows is to remind us that God will never do something like that again. On the other hand, there are plenty of stories to pick from where man became so wicked that God allowed the Israelites to be conquered.
re: #273 Belafon
The flood story is a bad one to pull up actually because the point of rainbows is to remind us that God will never do something like that again. On the other hand, there are plenty of stories to pick from where man became so wicked that God allowed the Israelites to be conquered.
I bring the story up because of the meaning that when God wanted to he used nature as his method of eliminating humans.
I’m not really religious, so I really don’t care about rainbows.
Also the flood story, like many in the Bible, has parallels in all kinds of mythical tales.
re: #254 freetoken
The know-nothing-ism that propels Trump’s success:
Iowa Poll: Iowa’s registered Republicans are not worried about climate change threats
“That may be happening, but it’s not because of anything we’re doing either positively or negatively,” said poll respondent Orlan Huizenga of Orange City.
“The good Lord above would not make a world that couldn’t sustain itself,” he said.
Yet one more reason why I became an atheist.
re: #275 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Gee, I knew Boeing’s reputation had taken a hit, but I didn’t think it was this bad.
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When I lived in Everett, WA, the economy would take a hit every three years when the engineers contract was up. they’d strike, negotiate, settle, and that Christmas, there’d be a bigger than ever bonus. Economy recovered.
This one is not going to have a bonus.
re: #259 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
He’s still never opened a Bible.
re: #279 ObserverArt
I bring the story up because of the meaning that when God wanted to he used nature as his method of eliminating humans.
I’m not really religious, so I really don’t care about rainbows.
Also the flood story, like many in the Bible, has parallels in all kinds of mythical tales.
The rainbow no longer belongs to any religion.
re: #274 wrenchwench
Trying to save one’s own unit. Look how wet that wall is.
yes…I saw that and pointed that out to Mr BWS (he happens to be home tonight because he got picked for jury duty today and has to go back tomorrow).
— The Monkey’s Paw (@TheEdMix) March 11, 2019
* An “NRA guide to the basics of pistol shooting.” https://t.co/mqEKLWMBVA
— The Monkey’s Paw (@TheEdMix) March 11, 2019
re: #285 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Maybe the kind with the pictures inside.
Here it is. Dumbed down to the point even Trump can follow it!
re: #288 Joe Bacon 🌹
Here it is. Dumbed down to the point even Trump can follow it!
The Legos Bible.
What the hell? It’s worse than I thought.
The National Committee of Asian American Republicans has kicked Cindy Yang off its staff.
She apparently has a younger and hotter business partner in New York, Jing Li, who is pals with Ivanka.
re: #286 gocart mozart
Everyone with twitter here needs to like this tweet.
re: #291 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
The pic of Ivanka is obviously pre-plastic.
re: #293 Ace Rothstein
The pic of Ivanka is obviously pre-plastic.
Before the kidney surgery, you mean?
re: #294 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Correct.
The State Department urges “increased caution” for travelers heading to the country, and especially for women.
No doubt:
Four businessmen molest woman, pass lewd comments at pub in Juhu
Relatives gang-rape woman in Hyderabad
Woman sets herself on fire days after ‘sexual assault’; her condition is stable, say police
64-year-old looking for a job raped by three men; she knew one of them
…. and so on.
Now we have many cases of rape annually here in the US.
But, what seems to occur in India is a particularly brazen, even public, occurrences.
re: #290 GlutenFreeJesus
Ok this is pretty fucking spectacular.
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Seeing this reminded me to check something at Google. I’ve mentioned seeing Queen on their second tour in America at The Agora Theater here in Columbus, right across the street from the main gate of Ohio State University.
They opened the tour at The Agora. That happened a lot with Brit bands. The Agora was three Ohio venues. One was in Cleveland and one in Toledo. All within less than 200 miles from each other. They could work their sets out in three great clubs in three nights without a lot of travel. The audiences were always accepting.
Anyway, I found an image from the show I saw. I remember Freddy dressed just like that. I think they opened with Killer Queen.
This brings back memories. And a bit of info from where I found it…Brian May dot com. Pretty cool. Link below.
EDIT: Show was in early 1975. Sheer Heart Attack Tour.
re: #251 Belafon
They know the Democratic House won’t pass it, but they will attempt to argue that they’re being fiscally responsible while believing that their base won’t care what they said they wanted to pass.
One thing to remember is that the middle class went for Republicans more than the lower class did.
That budget might not get 40 votes in the Senate. It’s straight from the Freedumb Caucus.
Trump’s proposed budget calls for nearly 19 times as much money on national defense as on diplomacy and foreign aid. https://t.co/WxtK61kDYm
— Foreign Policy (@ForeignPolicy) March 11, 2019
We reviewed nearly hundred hours of Tucker on Bubba. Trust me, there’s more.
— Madeline Peltz (@peltzmadeline) March 11, 2019
re: #301 gocart mozart
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re: #300 TedStriker
TRUMP WANT BIG BOOM!
“Why are Democrats worried about foreigners more than Americans?”
re: #289 ObserverArt
The Legos Bible.
What the hell? It’s worse than I thought.
What I like best about that page is the warning labels — parts of it may not be suitable for children!
NEW: The NY AG’s office has issued subpoenas to Deutsche Bank and Investors Bank for records relating to the financing of four major Trump Organization projects and a failed effort to buy the Buffalo Bills of the National Football League in 2014. https://t.co/HVqSGj2oGQ
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) March 12, 2019
As a live free or die type after moving here a couple of years ago, I figured it was my duty to take my day off to see what those commie/hipster Massholes were up to with their “Adult-Use” marijuana. I managed to smuggle some samples back across state lines for inspection.
They might be on to something.
re: #308 Barefoot Grin
As a live free or die type after moving here a couple of years ago, I figured it was my duty to take my day off to see what those commie/hipster Massholes were up to with their “Adult-Use” marijuana. I managed to smuggle some samples back across state lines for inspection.
They might be on to something.
Marijuana Delivery is the bee’s knees.
re: #285 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Maybe the kind with the pictures inside.
Here’s the version Ivanka can read to Donnie when she tucks him into bed: God is Disappointed in You.
re: #308 Barefoot Grin
As a live free or die type after moving here a couple of years ago, I figured it was my duty to take my day off to see what those commie/hipster Massholes were up to with their “Adult-Use” marijuana. I managed to smuggle some samples back across state lines for inspection.
They might be on to something.
re: #309 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
Marijuana Delivery is the bee’s knees.
I live in Colorado.
re: #311 teleskiguy
I need to be able to get my grubbies on some edibles. Alas, Wisconsin is far away from there legally or physically :(
So I got new reading glasses. I intend to get real lenses in them eventually if I can ;)
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re: #314 William Lewis
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re: #315 teleskiguy
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My governor.
“Winter is coming!” Arryn’t you aware of the stark grey joy of the coming blizzard? Don’t tully around, bolt on your windows and doors and don’t let your pets frey outside!https://t.co/EMimxQwPg8
— Jared Polis (@jaredpolis) March 12, 2019
re: #314 William Lewis
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fixed spelling
Study: The relationship between cannabis and #opioid use is among of the best-documented aspects of marijuana policy. In short, the science demonstrates that #marijuana is a relatively safe and effective pain reliever. https://t.co/W6qFlIXwnT
— NORML (@NORML) March 11, 2019
re: #281 wrenchwench
When I lived in Everett, WA, the economy would take a hit every three years when the engineers contract was up. they’d strike, negotiate, settle, and that Christmas, there’d be a bigger than ever bonus. Economy recovered.
This one is not going to have a bonus.
It’s early days on this one. El Shabab is very active in the region, the US is bombing the shit out of them, and the UN has been very, very qwiet.
We don’t know what happened, but that plane went almost thirty miles after they were cleared to return to their departure point. The Lion Air incident was pretty much a power dive into the ocean.
The Guardian found shell companies were used to hide foreign donations to the Trump Inaugural Committee.
Here’s is how one person involved responded to their queries.
https://t.co/rxRQoWmEsp pic.twitter.com/pHAYBQtOwF— Sharon Weinberger (@weinbergersa) March 10, 2019
I’d show you my shocked face, but I ain’t got one no more.
re: #319 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
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Without pot:
“I need a fix, or I’m going to die.”
With pot:
I need fix, a bag of Nacho Cheese Doritos, and liter of Dr. Pepper, or I’m going to die.”
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Really, what we need is a comprehensive system of safe, secure drug treatment programs with extensive aftercare to attack this problem, funded by the very drug companies that have created the problem.
This is not rocket science. This is common sense.
Which means that it won’t happen.
{sigh}
re: #174 Jack Burton
Everyone seems to forget just how fast Congressional Republicans turned on Richard Nixon in 1974. The 180 happened in a matter of days after months of solid support.
WHEN THE TAPES WERE RELEASED. Not before.
Without that smoking gun, they wouldn’t have turned. Today’s Senate R’s will turn on Trump if/when Mueller releases sufficiently compelling evidence.
they’re writing Hillary campaign stories….in 2019. #dependencies https://t.co/smBmOVAR03
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) March 12, 2019
re: #323 sagehen
WHEN THE TAPES WERE RELEASED. Not before.
Without that smoking gun, they wouldn’t have turned. Today’s Senate R’s will turn on Trump if/when Mueller releases sufficiently compelling evidence.
Here’s my take.
The tapes were devastating because they showed that Nixon and his crew got together after Watergate, and conspired to cover up their involvement. It was dead simple.
Trump, and his companies, on the other hand, have been a criminal organization for *years* before he got the the WH.
For example:
Okay, so why is a Russian Potash oligarch paying a 150% premium to Trump in 2008?
Well let’s see. The actual number was closer to $95 million, but still. Trump has $54 million in his pocket. Let’s say he keeps $18 million (1/3) and kicks back the other $36 million. Now Mr. Russian Potash Oligarch has got $36 million of clean liquid money to play with, based on an actual value 0f $40 million in *real* fixed costs for the property, which he can later turn into more liquid assets by selling it.
Clean money!
This shit is not going to show up on tape in the WH. This is inside the Trump Org. This is why Trump’s CFO is the key guy. If Mueller has turned him, Trump and his kids are dead meat.
It’s a potential RICO prosecution. It’s a Federal Case.
Are crimes like this, committed before a money launderer is elected President, an impeachable offense by law? I have no idea.
But *should* any American, found guilty of these offenses, whether before or after being elected be removed from office for having committed “high crimes and misdemeanors”?
Abso-fucking-lutely.
Thieves and con men are thieves and con men. They have no place in the White House, just the Big House
re: #325 austin_blue
What should happen is that the Republican party itself should be investigated as a RICO.
The more we learn about Brexit, the more crooked it looksElements of the 2016 British referendum campaign have long seemed familiar to Americans. There was a close, controversial election, full of rancor and anger. There were a lot of wealthy men talking about “the people” and their “will.” There were targeted advertising campaigns, stolen data and fake social media accounts. But now, with only a few days left until Britain is due to face the consequences of that vote, the Brexit story suddenly looks even more familiar: One of its protagonists turns out to have much deeper Russian business connections than previously suspected. He also tried to conceal them.
The protagonist in question is Arron Banks, the most important funder of both the pro-Brexit UK Independence Party (UKIP) and leave.eu, one of several organizations that campaigned to get Britain out of the European Union. By the relatively low-spending standards of British politics, Banks was a huge donor, giving $11 million of his own money to the Brexit cause and raising an additional $5 million on top. And here’s the peculiarly British part of the story: Thanks to Banks’s extensive use of tax havens and shell companies, it has never been entirely clear where all of that money came from — or even whether all of it was really his.
This is probably less than a shock to Lizard Nation. Remember, though, the Russkies could not undermine us by buying off traitors and crooks unless there were a lot of traitors and crooks to start with.
re: #323 sagehen
WHEN THE TAPES WERE RELEASED. Not before.
Without that smoking gun, they wouldn’t have turned. Today’s Senate R’s will turn on Trump if/when Mueller releases sufficiently compelling evidence.
Right. At the moment, the Republicans can deny all the allegations, because so far only the media (and Michael Cohen) have connected Trump to all the shenanigans regarding the election and the Russians. They can spin it as a media witch hunt, even though the GOP knows better. They know Trump is dirty, because a lot of them have been swimming in the same pool. But, as soon as Mueller makes his report, plausible deniability goes right out the door. Then it won’t be the media, but an arm of the government. Claiming Mueller is part of a Deep State plot may work as chum to throw their Trumpista constituents, but once that report comes out, those claims are not going to work. It doesn’t pay to piss off the FBI.
The right-wing, in the US and Europe both, would have sold out to ANYONE who came along with a good enough offer. It is in their nature.
Chuck E. Cheese employee: Sir, the ballpit is for the children.
Me: pic.twitter.com/bs6x2x4ViW— The only Simpsons fan on this site (@agraybee) March 11, 2019
re: #326 William Lewis
What should happen is that the Republican party itself should be investigated as a RICO.
Too much plausible deniability, unless their servers were also hacked, and had more actual dirt than risotto cooking techniques.
re: #327 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
If I had to guess, I’d say Banks was getting money from well placed Russian financiers.
re: #331 austin_blue
Too much plausible deniability, unless their servers were also hacked, and had more actual dirt than risotto cooking techniques.
Oh, I know. It is just my wishful thinking.
Sigh, “science” reporting is often just bad, and this story in Newsweek is riddled with problems:
ENORMOUS SOLAR STORM THAT HIT EARTH 2,600 YEARS AGO COULD BE BIGGEST EVER DETECTED
Scientists have discovered evidence of one of the biggest solar storms ever recorded, when high-energy particles unleashed from the sun bombarded Earth just over 2,600 years ago. Should a similar event hit us today, it could have a devastating impact, potentially knocking out global communication systems, satellites, electrical grids and air traffic systems.
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In 1859, a powerful geomagnetic storm—now known as the Carrington Event—caused by a coronal mass ejection hit Earth, causing widespread electrical disruptions and blackouts.
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In a study published in PNAS, Raimund Muscheler from Sweden’s Lund University and colleagues found evidence of another huge solar storm on the same scale as the one that hit in A.D. 775 Using two ice cores from Greenland, the team found the “enormous” storm took place around 2,610 B.C. “Our event was about 10 times stronger than any high-energy event observed during the past 70 years,” Muscheler told Newsweek.
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I was going to blame the headline writer, but the body of the article suggests it’s the writer (or editor).
Someone doesn’t known that 2600BC is more than 2600 years ago.
And in 1859 there were damn few electrical devices. The one that existed, and was affected, was the telegraph system.
This is what happens when a website (Newsweek in this case) hires people who don’t really have a clue about what they write.
re: #332 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
If I had to guess, I’d say Banks was getting money from well placed Russian financiers.
But, but that would make him a Useful Idiot for the Russians! Who could ever imagine that a Proper Englishman could ever fill such a role?!?!
{cough} Kim Philby {cough}
Shit, even with DST, it’s late. Night all. Sweet dreams (except for those Lizards in Asia, in which case, have a lovely day!).
Ciao, tata, adieu, adios, gutte nacht. Later.
re: #334 freetoken
I think blackouts in 1859 were a pre-existing condition, as it were.
No one who graduated college should write that 2610 BC was 2,600 years ago, but in this case it was probably a copy editor who only glanced at the article when composing a headline, and didn’t catch the BC part.
re: #337 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
I think blackouts in 1859 were a pre-existing condition, as it were.
No one who graduated college should write that 2610 BC was 2,600 years ago, but in this case it was probably a copy editor who only glanced at the article when composing a headline, and didn’t catch the BC part.
… or that 2610 AD is well into the future …
re: #339 goddamnedfrank
… or that 2610 AD is well into the future …
The textbook we’re using here was first published in 2008, so we are amused at it referring to 2020 as “the distant future.”
Even so, it’s hard to believe it arrives in only 9 more months.
re: #340 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
The textbook we’re using here was first published in 2008, so we are amused at it referring to 2020 as “the distant future.”
Even so, it’s hard to believe it arrives in only 9 more months.
My favorite MCR album, Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys, is set in that far off year of 2019. Why not? Our best moments are forever in the future …
re: #341 William Lewis
My favorite MCR album, Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys, is set in that far off year of 2019. Why not? Our best moments are forever in the future …
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The original Blade Runner movie is set in the far flung future of 2019. I’m glad our present is not like that future. Yeesh.
re: #343 William Lewis
so here I am anyway. Oy…
As for me, I am leaving the office to go home, BBIAB
re: #323 sagehen
WHEN THE TAPES WERE RELEASED. Not before.
Without that smoking gun, they wouldn’t have turned. Today’s Senate R’s will turn on Trump if/when Mueller releases sufficiently compelling evidence.
Again, if the FBI releases a tape of Trump shooting a pregnant woman on 5th Avenue, the GOP and Fox will rush to defend his actions.
re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Yes, a great many Trumpers are in total denial of reality. They have been primed, for the most part, after a lifetime of being indoctrinated in religious teaching that tells them to ignore actual data.
Then combine that with the sinister motives of the very rich who are looking at become feudal lords over many… and we got Trump.
re: #346 freetoken
Yes, a great many Trumpers are in total denial of reality. They have been primed, for the most part, after a lifetime of being indoctrinated in religious teaching that tells them to ignore actual data.
Then combine that with the sinister motives of the very rich who are looking at become feudal lords over many… and we got Trump.
And a GOP strategy that knew it could count on a solid 30% to actively get out and vote. They then used a combination of voter suppression and promoting voter apathy (“There is no difference between the candidates!) and ratfucking manipulation to guarantee an electoral majority.
Media played along because Trump is a star and guarantees viewers. They decided it was more interesting to watch an empty podium waiting for DT to appear than, for example, to broadcast a speech that HRC was giving about better employment possibilities for people with disabilities.
re: #353 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
Abandoning an embassy in a crisis country isn’t unheard of, but the last part of this statement is a pretty clear suggestion of military action. Given that still seems unlikely (?), looks like a pressure tactic. https://t.co/CF7NlHXTt5
— Evan Hill (@evanchill) March 12, 2019
Wag the dog.
re: #355 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
Abandoning an embassy in a crisis country isn’t unheard of, but the last part of this statement is a pretty clear suggestion of military action. Given that still seems unlikely (?), looks like a pressure tactic.
They are admitting that there is no more room for diplomacy. And it was no “coincidence” that Bolton let the world see his “notes” on sending 5,000 troops to Bolivia…
re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
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Unlike our middle east wars, at least for Venezuela we won’t need a bunch of local translators to later abandon, we have plenty of our own troops who speak the language.
re: #359 sagehen
Unlike our middle east wars, at least for Venezuela we won’t need a bunch of local translators to later abandon, we have plenty of our own troops who speak the language.
We are being fed the line of reasoning that Venezuela is a Socialist Hellhole that we have to save for Humanitarian Reasons
re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We are being fed the line of reasoning that Venezuela is a Socialist Hellhole that we have to save for Humanitarian Reasons
And instead of the Hearst newspapers lobbying for the Spanish-American War, we today have Fox News, the media organ of the GOP.
re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We are being fed the line of reasoning that Venezuela is a Socialist Hellhole that we have to save for Humanitarian Reasons
Must be a bitch to need rescuing if you live in a country without oil wells.
re: #362 Decatur Deb
Must be a bitch to need rescuing if you live in a country without oil wells.
Exactly. Those dictators and humanitarian catastrophes are irrelevant.
re: #362 Decatur Deb
Must be a bitch to need rescuing if you live in a country without oil wells.
Country w/ oil: “WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS SCOURGE TO CONTINUE! WE MUST RESCUE THEM IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!!!”
Country w/o oil: “Eh, what can we do? We’re not the world’s policemen, they need to sort their own shit out.”
🔥WHOA🔥@JebBush’s Super PAC (Right to Rise USA) that spent >$100 million for Jeb was hit with a massive $390,000 fine by the FEC for soliciting >$1 million in ILLEGAL contributions from #Chinese🇨🇳nationals via Jeb’s brother, Neil Bush.#CorruptGOPhttps://t.co/Wy4jgr1fcs
— Dr. Dena Grayson (@DrDenaGrayson) March 12, 2019
re: #365 Patricia Kayden
Jeb Bush’s Super PAC (Right to Rise USA) that spent >$100 million for Jeb was hit with a massive $390,000 fine by the FEC for soliciting >$1 million in ILLEGAL contributions from Chinese nationals via Jeb’s brother, Neil
Prease crap
Watching Maximum Overdrive and marveling at 80’s film physics, where a semi hitting sedan in the rear quarter instead pole-vaults the damned car instead of spinning it around.
re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We are being fed the line of reasoning that Venezuela is a Socialist Hellhole that we have to save for Humanitarian Reasons
Trump’s accolytes might pretend to buy that reasoning… but they really don’t. They just want the oil.
People who care about humanitarian anything don’t believe that Venezuela is the worst case out there. People who care about humanitarian stuff might even point out that Puerto Rico could use some humanitarian relief, they’re a whole lot closer and easier to get to — and of course the fact that they’re American citizens and American taxpayers and FFS they were entitled to such relief a year and a half ago and it’s still not forthcoming.
re: #325 austin_blue
No one is above the law and anyone citing that 1970s DOJ paper on whether the president can be impeached doesn’t get that it’s an opinion. It’s not the rule of law.
It’s never been tested. But we have examples from every other level of government that shows that corruption and criminal misconduct is prosecuted against governors, mayors and congress members. The president isn’t above the law and can and should be prosecuted for criminal acts uncovered - including those unrelated to the actual campaign or effort to be president. Arguably everything Trump did to enrich himself over his life ultimately aided his effort to be president. That means money laundering for Russian oligarchs by selling them properties so they can transform the nature of the funds invested is a criminal act that leveraged those oligarchs against Trump.
Then there are the direct crimes - those Trump and his campaign engaged in to win the nomination and election. That includes all the coordination of activities with foreign agents. That includes hiring a bunch of crooks who include Gates, Manafort, Flynn, and Papadopoulos.
Then there’s Cohen and his criminal acts, and for which the SDNY names Trump as unindicted coconspirator on those schemes - federal felonies.
And last, but not the least, is the coverup - the obstruction, witness tampering, and all the rest that Trump has done on a daily basis to hide all the aforementioned criminal acts.
So yeah, indict him. Let him try to defend his actions in court.
Regarding the OP, John Oliver is a genius! Robocalling the FCC directors. Muahahaha!
Think we need to separate the motivations of the Trump admin from those of his wingnut base with regards to supporting “regime change” in Venezuela. The former are motivated largely by oil, but there is also an element of notching a “win” for Trump’s foreign policy by “liberating” the Venezuelan people from “socialism.” The latter have bought totally into the BS about the Venezuelan people suffering under the rule of a socialist dictator and the need for America to go in and save them. You know, the same nimrods who believed that the Iraqi people were begging us to come in and remove Saddam so they could live in the wonder and beauty of American democracy.
Final legal weed deal reached in NJ! Murphy, top Dems resolve last sticking point and could hold big vote before the end of the month. - https://t.co/3oIOQnMn7t https://t.co/dyTJTE3lFN
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 12, 2019
So, the consensus here seems to be that Pelosi was wrong to say impeaching Trump isn’t worth it.
But was that actually the point. Pelosi reiterated her position so as to generate the outrage factor to support impeachment? Is she 3d chess playing to build up the case for impeachment all while depriving the GOP of an argument that the Democrats are fixated on impeaching Trump?
I’ve been watching the fervor over her impeachment remarks, and all I can think is that Nancy Pelosi is a strong candidate for the greatest political mind of our time. She’s so damn brilliant at this, so quietly sharp, that all you can do is sit back and admire the process.
— Charlotte Clymer🏳️🌈 (@cmclymer) March 12, 2019
re: #365 Patricia Kayden
WHOA🔥@JebBush’s Super PAC (Right to Rise USA) that spent >$100 million for Jeb was hit with a massive $390,000 fine by the FEC for soliciting >$1 million in ILLEGAL contributions from #Chinese🇨🇳nationals via Jeb’s brother, Neil
Is this the same Jeb’s Brother that was part of the Keating 5 mess? Or was that a different Jeb’s Brother?
There’s zero chance that this is accurate. Trump can’t function without Jared/Ivanka whispering in his ear all the time - because he doesn’t listen to anyone else.
And if true, did Kelly act on this? Nope. So he still failed the nation.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 12, 2019
re: #374 lawhawk
So, the consensus here seems to be that Pelosi was wrong to say impeaching Trump isn’t worth it.
But was that actually the point. Pelosi reiterated her position so as to generate the outrage factor to support impeachment? Is she 3d chess playing to build up the case for impeachment all while depriving the GOP of an argument that the Democrats are fixated on impeaching Trump?
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Rick Wilson posted a series of tweets about this but didn’t thread them for some reason. His take seems pretty right on.
1/ Pelosi is doing absolutely the right thing viz impeachment. It’s the right politics and it’s the right policy.
2/ The symbolism of impeaching in the House is meaningless unless the Senate convicts. It’s not going to happen.
3/ so why not use the investigation process if it was meant: to hold Trump accountable across-the-board. All the benefits, none of the inoculation.
4/ Set a fire that burns and burns and burns until his empire of shit is reduced to ashes. Don’t give him one fight of impeachment/not impeachment.
The House investigations are basically impeachment in all but name. They’d be doing the same thing if they launched impeachment proceedings, but as of now it would end with the compromised Senate voting not to convict and remove. Which would be spun as vindication by the Trump Cult.
Also - Trump wants them to impeach. He’d run his entire reelection campaign as a fight against the Witch Hunt if he could. Pelosi is denying him the one thing that would truly rev up the base. Smart.
And the ‘He’s not worth it’ line, while seemingly a throwaway, is going to be a thorn in Trump’s paw. The worst thing you can tell him is that he’s not worth your attention.
re: #377 makeitstop
More than a few people have noted that all the oversight and other committee investigations into Trumpworld acts are the functional equivalent to impeachment.
The problem is that it still lacks the enforcement against Trump. What can Congress do if impeachment isn’t a tool to enforce against a president who engages in widespread criminal misconduct.
Or, will the total weight of the evidence against Trump be such that it convinces 60 senators to vote to remove Trump - the punishment for a conviction on a single act.
With Clinton, the closest they got was 50 votes on one of the two charges that the House passed (out of the 4 under consideration).
Pelosi also knows that McConnell could even try to prevent the Senate from taking it up at all, just as he refused to take up the Garland nomination.
So Pelosi goes with the twofer - nonstop hearings, defangs impeachment, but leaves the door open while calling Trump not worth it (he is, but this is an ego hit that she knows will sting). It also suggests that Pelosi might be goading Trump into making even more mistakes.
re: #377 makeitstop
I especially like that last part — “he’s not worth it.” It can be taken at so many levels, but Trump will only hear the part demeaning him personally.
re: #375 sagehen
I believe that one was named Neil.
re: #373 lawhawk
Chris Christi is pissed. I’m OK with that.
re: #382 Dave In Austin
Wursts!!
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It was the breast of times, it was the wurst of times….
re: #378 lawhawk
More than a few people have noted that all the oversight and other committee investigations into Trumpworld acts are the functional equivalent to impeachment.
The problem is that it still lacks the enforcement against Trump. What can Congress do if impeachment isn’t a tool to enforce against a president who engages in widespread criminal misconduct.
Or, will the total weight of the evidence against Trump be such that it convinces 60 senators to vote to remove Trump - the punishment for a conviction on a single act.
With Clinton, the closest they got was 50 votes on one of the two charges that the House passed (out of the 4 under consideration).
Pelosi also knows that McConnell could even try to prevent the Senate from taking it up at all, just as he refused to take up the Garland nomination.
So Pelosi goes with the twofer - nonstop hearings, defangs impeachment, but leaves the door open while calling Trump not worth it (he is, but this is an ego hit that she knows will sting). It also suggests that Pelosi might be goading Trump into making even more mistakes.
67 senators. 2/3.
And, considering that 80+% of the American people favor some gun control legislation that the Senate has refused to even vote on because they still don’t suffer at the polls for it, it’s going to take a lot to get the Senate to budge on impeachment.
re: #379 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
I especially like that last part — “he’s not worth it.” It can be taken at so many levels, but Trump will only hear the part demeaning him personally.
As long as he can be contained by the courts and Congress (big if), I want him in office because he’s totally incompetent. He’s also exposing so much about the Right that people beyond political junkies were just not aware of.
And going into Venezuela will be incredibly unpopular.
I have decided that, in the debate over whether to stay on Daylight Savings Time or to stay on regular time (ie, winter), I have come to the conclusion I prefer winter time. Two reasons: I like the early morning light, and, more importantly, I like the extra hour of cooldown before bed time.
re: #384 Belafon
67 senators. 2/3.
The Senate failed to convict Bill Clinton even though the GOP had a 10 seat majority. It will take more than a slam-dunk atrocity to get the GOP Senate to convict Trump.
re: #387 Belafon
I have decided that, in the debate over whether to stay on Daylight Savings Time or to stay on regular time (ie, winter), I have come to the conclusion I prefer winter time. Two reasons: I like the early morning light, and, more importantly, I like the extra hour of cooldown before bed time.
I grew up in in Indiana and Arizona, two states that did not change time (Indiana has since started changing over).
In Arizona, most offices switch to “summer hours” and start work at 7am and knock off at 3 or 4pm. And builders start at 5am so they can be done before the hottest part of the day.
re: #389 Decatur Deb
The Senate failed to convict Bill Clinton even though the GOP had a 10 seat majority. It will take more than a slam-dunk atrocity to get the GOP Senate to convict Trump.
Impeachment is a political act, and it says a lot about our country, which right now isn’t really very good. Until the Senate Republicans feel themselves suffer for Trump, there’s no incentive for them to stand up for the country or the Constitution.
re: #391 Belafon
Impeachment is a political act, and it says a lot about our country, which right now isn’t really very good. Until the Senate Republicans feel themselves suffer for Trump, there’s no incentive for them to stand up for the country or the Constitution.
We would not need a Mueller Report if there were the political will: Trump has already presented enough cases of clear conflict of interest, obstructing justice and the most egregious violations of the Emoluments Clause.
re: #391 Belafon
Impeachment is a political act, and it says a lot about our country, which right now isn’t really very good. Until the Senate Republicans feel themselves suffer for Trump, there’s no incentive for them to stand up for the country or the Constitution.
Beyond GOP intransigence, impeachment is seen as a Bad Thing in se . It attacks the assertion that the US is a stable democracy whose Presidents get to finish their term. That might be a myth, but it is a precious myth to a lot of people.
re: #387 Belafon
I have decided that, in the debate over whether to stay on Daylight Savings Time or to stay on regular time (ie, winter), I have come to the conclusion I prefer winter time. Two reasons: I like the early morning light, and, more importantly, I like the extra hour of cooldown before bed time.
Why don’t we just split the difference, I don’t want to have a beef with you. I suck at puns, I’ll go now.
re: #394 Shropshire Slasher
Think you cited the wrong comment, there.
re: #395 Decatur Deb
Screw the rest of the world, I want my half hour. I know it doesn’t make sense now that I read it.
re: #355 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
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If this was real prelude why broadcast it on Twitter? More posturing.
re: #388 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Don’t Knock it!!!
Don’t like it?? Talk to me! I brat it!! Are you sure ya have the liver for it?
re: #397 Old Liberal
If this was real prelude why broadcast it on Twitter? More posturing.
Can’t assume that all of the administration’s bad actors are of one mind. Some might be posturing, some miscalculating, some seizing an opportunity.
re: #399 Decatur Deb
Can’t assume that all of the administration’s bad actors are of one mind. Some might be posturing, some miscalculating, some seizing an opportunity.
I’m just saying there’s no reason to announce on Twitter when you can do it quietly. I don’t doubt the malevolent forces are scheming. They failed in their little aid gambit.
Boeing is getting it’s just rewards. Shut Em’ down Joe! Shut em dowm around the world.
Except in Donny’s World. Don’t fly on these planes.
Picayune rant about computer technology:
I bought an HP laptop a few months ago as an backup for my moribund 2011 Dell. I don’t use the HP that much, but when I turned it on this morning, it started up in the blue-screen “Working on updates” mode - which of course, can’t be stopped (Windows 10).So far, it has been on for 35 minutes and seems stuck at 84%. Is this normal? Or does Bill Gates get a bonus based on hourly rates?
re: #402 Jay C
Picayune rant about computer technology:
I bought an HP laptop a few months ago as an backup for my moribund 2011 Dell. I don’t use the HP that much, but when I turned it on this morning, it started up I. The blue-screen “working on updates” mode - which of course, can’t be stopped (Windows 10).So far, it has been on for 35 minutes and seems stuck at 84%. Is this normal? Or does Bill Gates get a bonus based on hourly rates?
I’ve had a couple updates from them for Win10 that ran for over an hour before finishing successfully. And restarted the PC like 3 - 4 times.
re: #403 Eventual Carrion
I’ve had a couple updates from them for Win10 that ran for over an hour before finishing successfully. And restarted the PC like 3 - 4 times.
Great.
Nothing like “progress”.
Good thing I have my iPad.
re: #372 Targetpractice
Think we need to separate the motivations of the Trump admin from those of his wingnut base with regards to supporting “regime change” in Venezuela. The former are motivated largely by oil, but there is also an element of notching a “win” for Trump’s foreign policy by “liberating” the Venezuelan people from “socialism.” The latter have bought totally into the BS about the Venezuelan people suffering under the rule of a socialist dictator and the need for America to go in and save them. You know, the same nimrods who believed that the Iraqi people were begging us to come in and remove Saddam so they could live in the wonder and beauty of American democracy.
Can you cite some evidence that the wingnut base is in favor of military action in Venezuela? Because everything I’ve seen suggests that they’re isolationists (=America firsters). Although they may go along with DT for a while.
re: #405 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
Can you cite some evidence that the wingnut base is in favor of military action in Venezuela? Because everything I’ve seen suggests that they’re isolationists (=America firsters). Although they may go along with DT for a while.
I watch Freep like a petri dish. They seem about evenly divided.
Wanted: Two computer scientists from MIT to pilot AF1. Telecommuting okay.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) March 12, 2019
“What a surprise! I totally didn’t order them to do that. I was wondering why that guy was filming me pretending to work at my desk”
— jack mcgraw (@redmcgraw1) March 12, 2019
re: #405 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
They will have to get in line with Russia and China, kinda like that beat-down scene in Airplane!
Venezuela is in the middle of a power struggle at the highest level, and that could mean trouble for its two biggest foreign allies: China and Russia.
The socialist petrostate is home to the largest oil reserves on the planet, but endemic corruption has devastated its economy. Beijing and Moscow have helped the country stave off collapse by repeatedly extending financial lifelines — to the tune of tens of billions of dollars over the last decade.
For the most part, those oil-for-debt swaps were good for all parties involved. But that may be changing.
With the United States and others backing opposition leader Juan Guaido as the country’s legitimate president over dictator Nicolas Maduro, it could take longer for Russia and China to get their money back. And in the case of some loans, they may not get anything back at all.
re: #407 darthstar
Perhaps Donnie can follow his buddy Kim Jong Un’s habits and only take trains to get places.
The second half of Trump’s airplane safety tweet is too fucking stupid to quote.
Huh, I missed this last night. Is it too early for popcorn?
BREAKING: The New York attorney general’s office late on Monday issued subpoenas to Deutsche Bank and Investors Bank for records relating to the financing of four major Trump Organization projects and a failed effort to buy the Buffalo Bills in 2014https://t.co/DBGqcWjXet
— Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) March 12, 2019
That attempted Bills purchase, huh? Yeah, turn over every goddamn rock.
More Brexit madness:
There is now no way through for the PM in tonight’s vote. DUP has abandoned her. Whole strategy has failed. Minister says “wheels have come off” #brexit
— Vicki Young (@BBCVickiYoung) March 12, 2019
They’re well and truly fucked. Their parliament is hopelessly paralyzed and they’ll end up crashing out on 29 March - only 17 days from now.
re: #411 darthstar
The second half of Trump’s airplane safety tweet is too fucking stupid to quote.
Nah. Still too complicated. I suspect it was the dirigible and hydrogen lobbies https://t.co/ubYm5ANtGv
— Michele: Out of the Closet and into the fire (@BubbleheadII) March 12, 2019
Norwegian Air Shuttle says it has grounded its Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft on recommendation from European aviation authorities after Sunday’s Ethiopian Airlines crash.The Norwegian carrier has 18 of the planes.
Tomas Hesthammer, the low-cost carrier’s acting chief operating officer, says that “the safety and security of our customers and colleagues will never be compromised, and once authorities advise to cease operations we will of course comply.”
A growing number of airlines and countries around the world have grounded the planes.
Oh man, this is gonna hit Boeing pretty damn hard, I think.
re: #414 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire
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So Albert Einstein was known for his quick reflexes and his cool decision-making under stress? You learn something new every day!
@julianraven, whose specialty is painting ‘extra large’ Jackson Pollock knockoffs, is suing the Smithsonian for refusing to hang his extra large Trump mural.https://t.co/D6pnAy7TqK
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) March 12, 2019
So I wondered who’s heading the FAA during this whole 737 question. Answer: Three people who are all “acting.”https://t.co/SchwS6v8Tt pic.twitter.com/uIcRy44qdB
— Eric Umansky (@ericuman) March 12, 2019
re: #416 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
So Albert Einstein was known for his quick reflexes and his cool decision-making under stress? You learn something new every day!
Well, we’ve all seen the greatest Einstein bio of all time, Young Einsten, right?
re: #414 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire
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Okay, time for the logbook card. I have been a pilot for 53 years. I have logged 7900 some odd hours in the air. T-Rump is even more full of shit than usual when he tries to hold forth about this. Flying is basically easier than driving, it’s just that the consequences of inattention or a mistake or equipment failure are much more likely to be serious.
re: #405 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
Can you cite some evidence that the wingnut base is in favor of military action in Venezuela? Because everything I’ve seen suggests that they’re isolationists (=America firsters). Although they may go along with DT for a while.
Hatred of Socialism is being whipped up. Hatred of brown/skinned people is already there, just needs to be focused on a Brutal Dictator (with oil)
re: #172 Belafon
It is right now with a Republican controlled Senate. The point being that if you’re hoping the Senate will remove him, you’re wasting your time.
Nixon had majority support in the Senate until well into impeachment hearings.
The American people deserve a public examination of the crimes that Trump has committed.
re: #415 Dr Lizardo
Oh man, this is gonna hit Boeing pretty damn hard, I think.
Yep. Boeing, FAA and the NTSB need to get this worked out real quick.
re: #424 Scottish Dragon
Yep. Boeing, (the acting directors of the ) FAA and the NTSB need to get this worked out real quick.
FTFY
(because they are not likely to)
Patrick Moore was not a co-founder of Greenpeace. He does not represent Greenpeace. He is a paid lobbyist, not an independent source. His statements about @AOC & the #GreenNewDeal have nothing to do with our positions.
https://t.co/u0chD1Ne0H pic.twitter.com/TfwtwYZ98R— Greenpeace USA (@greenpeaceusa) March 12, 2019
re: #423 Scottish Dragon
Nixon had majority support in the Senate until well into impeachment hearings.
The American people deserve a public examination of the crimes that Trump has committed.
And the House committees are doing just that, no?
A year of televised hearings, even without the rubric of ‘impeachment,’ should do a lot to drive up Trump’s negatives. And Pelosi’s ‘announcement’ yesterday (which was already in the public record anyway) will make Trump think he’s got nothing to worry about, while taking away the fight he so desperately wants to have.
The Senate will not vote to convict, if they even participate. Pelosi’s move will put everything on the record, without that bad ending that Trump would spin as vindication.
re: #421 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Okay, time for the logbook card. I have been a pilot for 53 years. I have logged 7900 some odd hours in the air. T-Rump is even more full of shit than usual when he tries to hold forth about this. Flying is basically easier than driving, it’s just that the consequences of inattention or a mistake or equipment failure are much more likely to be serious.
The closest I have ever come to flying is driving a 637 class submarine while submerged.
re: #428 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire
The closest I have ever come to flying is driving a 637 class submarine while submerged.
Closest I have come is driving a Saab on the Autobahn.
re: #429 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Closest I have come is driving a Saab on the Autobahn.
Closest I’ve come was watching my girls use a flight simulator at Laughlin Air Force Base.
Felicity Huffman is one of the indicted persons here.
BREAKING: Actresses and chief executives among 50 arrested in nationwide college admissions cheating scam, according to newly unsealed court records. https://t.co/ScpUjSo4Nm
— ABC News (@ABC) March 12, 2019
West Virginia lawmakers just sided with Dow chemical - which argued it’s okay to poison West Virginia residents because they are “heavier” and “drink less water” https://t.co/HzuVCEGlQ2 pic.twitter.com/FnNSXWzyfg
— p.e. moskowitz (@_pem_pem) March 11, 2019
re: #427 makeitstop
And the House committees are doing just that, no?
A year of televised hearings, even without the rubric of ‘impeachment,’ should do a lot to drive up Trump’s negatives. And Pelosi’s ‘announcement’ yesterday (which was already in the public record anyway) will make Trump think he’s got nothing to worry about, while taking away the fight he so desperately wants to have.
The Senate will not vote to convict, if they even participate. Pelosi’s move will put everything on the record, without that bad ending that Trump would spin as vindication.
Justice cannot be contingent on whatever Trump decides to spin, and the offences will likely prove grave enough that impeachment will be compelled as a practical matter, even if his sycophants in the Senate refuse to convict. If we see documentary evidence of conspiracy, obstruction of justice or he pardons his children etc after they are indicted, then the rule of law must be protected. Let the cowards in the Senate be revealed as cowards.
re: #415 Dr Lizardo
Oh man, this is gonna hit Boeing pretty damn hard, I think.
BREAKING NEWS: Irish, UK and Germany Aviation Authorities suspends operations of Boeing 737 Max jets.
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) March 12, 2019
SCOOP: FORMER VP JOE BIDEN will run for PRESIDENT in 2020, senior Democratic lawmaker tells @TheHill.
In a recent phone call w/Dem lawmaker, @JoeBiden said “I’m giving it a shot” in 2020 and asked for an endorsement. w/@AmieParnes https://t.co/mi1aNRD4QG— Scott Wong (@scottwongDC) March 12, 2019
JFC, these people…
.@SenJoniErnst & @SenMikeLee are unveiling a new proposal for paid family leave.
The “Cradle Act” would allow new parents to use Social Security savings to pay for time off after birth/adoption. Users would then delay their retirement to pay the money back.
📺 Only @CBS Wed. pic.twitter.com/2r5hsSF6a8— CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) March 12, 2019
re: #435 Scottish Dragon
Let’s see if he can stand out in the existing field. I think other than being the grandpa, there’s not much to him.
I hope Joe is ready for a real thorough look at how he treated Anita Hill and the stuff he said about race and crime in the 80’s.
African American folks are already bringing this up a LOT in my twitter feed.
re: #426 darthstar
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It is potentially catastrophic that the president of the United States gets his news on climate change from F&F appearances by an industry spox who falsely portrays himself as a Greenpeace co-founder https://t.co/8QvN1XBc6Y
Left, Fox & Friends, 7:34 am
Right, Trump, 8:29 am pic.twitter.com/QILQGDR2jP— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) March 12, 2019
when i was smol i used to love spaghettios and then one day my mother served me spaghettios that had these little meatballs and i realized for the first time that the world could be a wondrous place https://t.co/iJCoAXBdlL
— darth™ (@darth) March 12, 2019
re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth
JFC, these people…
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Oh, man! Someone want to explain to these Senate idiots that “paid family leave” does NOT mean “pay for it yourself”???
Lighthizer said he wants to get the USMCA to Congress “as soon as we can.” He didn’t offer a specific time estimate in response to Cornyn’s non-question.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 12, 2019
Portman urges Trump not to go through with tariffs on auto imports, saying that’d make it extra-hard for Canada and Mexico to ratify USMCA. Lighthizer notes that the US has signed a deal that essentially exempts Canada and Mexico from any potential auto tariffs.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 12, 2019
re: #441 Jay C
Oh, man! Someone want to explain to these Senate idiots that “paid family leave” does NOT mean “pay for it yourself”???
How about a “not-having-to-quit-your-job-because-you-get-pregnant” bill?
Reportedly Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner maneuvered to arrange themselves flights on government planes even when others had determined it inappropriate. Another example of this administration wasting taxpayer funds for their own benefit. https://t.co/fNUqVi1b2Z
— Noah Bookbinder (@NoahBookbinder) March 12, 2019
I like the way this cat thinks. (Actually every cat thinks this way, but some prefer waffles…)#CatWorldDomination #NationalPancakeDay pic.twitter.com/MXgTcjbj6B
— “Mad Cat” Cattis (@GeneralCattis) March 12, 2019
re: #386 BlueGrl21
As long as he can be contained by the courts and Congress (big if), I want him in office because he’s totally incompetent. He’s also exposing so much about the Right that people beyond political junkies were just not aware of.
And going into Venezuela will be incredibly unpopular.
Devoted Trumpsters may favor this because they believe that it would prevent
people from creating “caravans” to flee instability. After all, one way to persuade citizens to stay in their own nation is to provide decent living conditions so they are not motivated to leave. Other Americans will not be so enthusiastic by such a venture.
Combined with Trump’s comments about the complexity of flight, this feels almost sarcastic. https://t.co/wna1ZI4j3Z
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) March 12, 2019
All four Trump appointees (who were seated in time) are in the majority. Trump now has six appointees on this court https://t.co/o5x3aH1eCH
— Lawrence Hurley (@lawrencehurley) March 12, 2019
re: #431 Scottish Dragon
Felicity Huffman is one of the indicted persons here.
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So everyone in this scam… do all their kids get expelled from wherever those fake SAT scores got them into?
re: #449 sagehen
So everyone in this scam… do all their kids get expelled from wherever those fake SAT scores got them into?
I’ll bet not the athletes…
BREAKING: College coaches and others charged in a sweeping admissions bribery case. Schools include Wake Forest University, Georgetown, and the University of Southern California. https://t.co/VXH9yAEzsy
— The Associated Press (@AP) March 12, 2019
re: #374 lawhawk
So, the consensus here seems to be that Pelosi was wrong to say impeaching Trump isn’t worth it.
But was that actually the point. Pelosi reiterated her position so as to generate the outrage factor to support impeachment? Is she 3d chess playing to build up the case for impeachment all while depriving the GOP of an argument that the Democrats are fixated on impeaching Trump?
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It wasn’t my consensus. I said I believe in what she is doing considering the cards she has been dealt and the players at the table.
Also, her stance takes the heat off her party for election purposes and puts it all on the American people to react and the Republican party to deal with the reactions.
I’ve been surprised by the TV news I’ve heard too. They all have made a thing of the remark Trump isn’t worth, and all have closed the report saying “but she hasn’t ruled it out if there is bipartisan support.”
The Republicans are always mouthing off about bipartisanship.
Thinking further last evening, I started to really like her saying “Trump isn’t worth it.”
We all know Trump will react to that because he hates anything negative about him, even if it a good thing. He’s probably wondering why Clinton and Nixon were worth it and he is not.
Pelosi is good. And I hope all those younger Democrat house members are watching and learning.
well at least the news can not get any fuckin crazier toda… https://t.co/hSaIc28L1n
— darth™ (@darth) March 12, 2019
one aspect of this fuckin insane story will be how the college athletic departments are involved they don’t just make money off of actual athletes they make money off of fake athletes as well nice work if you can get it i guess
— darth™ (@darth) March 12, 2019
But it’s totally OK for Jared Kushner’s dad to pay cash directly to Harvard to get mediocre student Jared admitted.
(And god only know what Fred Trump had to do to bribe Penn to allow his stupid son Donald to attend Wharton.) https://t.co/qtK9PrQ1Dr— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) March 12, 2019
3,200 pounds of cocaine worth $77M was caught at the insecure border of NUEVO JERSEY.
Nuevo Jersey does not have a wall. We need a wall at Nuevo jersey https://t.co/m2o3cVNVop— ALT- Immigration 🛂 “immi” (@ALT_uscis) March 12, 2019
re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth
JFC, these people…
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— Ted Atkinson (@atkinson_ted) March 12, 2019
jeebus
‘Full House’ actress Lori Loughlin and husband accused of paying $500K to get daughters designated as USC crew recruits. But they didn’t even row. ‘Desperate Housewives’ star Felicity Huffman accused of paying $15K for a fake proctor to correct her daughter’s SAT answers. https://t.co/j4F3jgtEEW
— Josh Sidorowicz WTSP (@JoshWTSP) March 12, 2019
re: #377 makeitstop
Rick Wilson posted a series of tweets about this but didn’t thread them for some reason. His take seems pretty right on.
The House investigations are basically impeachment in all but name. They’d be doing the same thing if they launched impeachment proceedings, but as of now it would end with the compromised Senate voting not to convict and remove. Which would be spun as vindication by the Trump Cult.
Also - Trump wants them to impeach. He’d run his entire reelection campaign as a fight against the Witch Hunt if he could. Pelosi is denying him the one thing that would truly rev up the base. Smart.
And the ‘He’s not worth it’ line, while seemingly a throwaway, is going to be a thorn in Trump’s paw. The worst thing you can tell him is that he’s not worth your attention.
Ha. Just answered lawhawk above and said the same thing about Trump not being worth it.
Also, I remember what Michael Steels said last week on Nicole Wallace’s show. He said if you think about it, Pelosi has all of her committees impeaching Trump right now and making it a public trial. The jury is the American public and will be voting for conviction and sentencing in the elections of 2020.
re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus
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Wonder if Felicity got the idea from watching Lip on “Shameless”
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She’s quietly kicking ass and knows she’s got this in the bag. Tick tick, motherfucker. 🥰🖕 pic.twitter.com/EA8SkjpT96
— Bourne American 🇺🇸👭🦋🇺🇸 (@bournetobeme) March 12, 2019
re: #427 makeitstop
And the House committees are doing just that, no?
A year of televised hearings, even without the rubric of ‘impeachment,’ should do a lot to drive up Trump’s negatives. And Pelosi’s ‘announcement’ yesterday (which was already in the public record anyway) will make Trump think he’s got nothing to worry about, while taking away the fight he so desperately wants to have.
The Senate will not vote to convict, if they even participate. Pelosi’s move will put everything on the record, without that bad ending that Trump would spin as vindication.
Did you read my rather long comment yesterday? I’m hearing echos!!! : )
First time I think I ever made the top of the top 10 comments. I thought I would get killed for it.
#22 in this thread.
And thanks all for the updings.
I begrudgingly agree with Pelosi re: Impeachment.
Trump is bulletproof with the current GOP senate and any Impeachment attempt will be DOA.
Unless something comes out that causes the GOP to abandon Trump en masse it’s a losing battle.
So she’s focusing on the ones she can win. That’s good strategy.
re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Southern Cal is my old alma mater: back in that (dim ancient) day there was a bit of doggerel that was said to sum up the prevailing attitude there:
U.S.C.
Pay Your Fee.
Get Your Degree.
I was told by an old alum friend a while back that it wasn’t quite like that any more (notwithstanding the vast redefinition of “fee” in the intervening decades years) : but I see there are still some old college traditions hanging on in the Hallowed Halls of Troy…..
Boeing directed a lot of Free Speech at Mitch McConnell’s PAC and the NRSC in the last cycle. Something to consider today. pic.twitter.com/m6rt1522yJ
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) March 12, 2019
re: #432 darthstar
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Whut???!!!
If I was a resident of West By God Virginia I would be pissed as hell. That is the most outrageous claim from a chemical company I’ve heard in a long time.
Yeah, Trump has opened up this kind of crap with his cutting the EPA at the knees. Dow knows they have protection as do the funky state politicians.
And we wonder why Joe Manchin is the way he is.
re: #438 Scottish Dragon
I hope Joe is ready for a real thorough look at how he treated Anita Hill and the stuff he said about race and crime in the 80’s.
African American folks are already bringing this up a LOT in my twitter feed.
I think Joe Biden is going to regret this. He is going to get hammered from all sides.
It is different political times. Reaching a hand across the isle will get it cut off. I hope he is prepared for it.
re: #460 Scottish Dragon
The real scandal is what is still perfectly legal.
yep
What is the difference supposed to be, exactly? https://t.co/L9cqy8Hi0r
— Mike Madden (@MikeMadden) March 12, 2019
So if Putin has Pelosi murdered, and Trump tries to stop an investigation, would we be ok with Democrats not demanding impeachment?
re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth
yep
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Penny-ante shit is illegal. “Donating a building” is noblesse oblige.
You really don’t know anything, do you. #KnockKnockJunior https://t.co/OGcb4eXKIq
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) March 12, 2019
re: #447 darthstar
Ju-Air banned from operating commercial Ju52 flights
Damn, I love when Tante Ju comes sailing over the valley. I can hear those old motors from a long way off and always go out to wave.
This country is getting appallingly corrupt.
Are there are any sane and moral motherfuckers left anymore?
re: #460 Scottish Dragon
The real scandal is what is still perfectly legal.
Affirmative action for the 1%
re: #471 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Damn, I love when Tante Ju comes sailing over the valley. I can hear those old motors from a long way off and always go out to wave.
I want to see three of them towing an Me 321 Gigant glider.
re: #466 ObserverArt
I think Joe Biden is going to regret this. He is going to get hammered from all sides.
It is different political times. Reaching a hand across the isle will get it cut off. I hope he is prepared for it.
I assume he is prepared for it, he is going to get assailed from tons of ratfuckers and idealists.
re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth
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For a supposedly Christian country we sure have a lot of scandals and other bad crap going on.
I guess there was some kind of an heated exchange at an NBA b-ball game in Salt Lake City last night between Russell Westbrook an Oklahoma City player and a Salt Lake fan. It apparently involved the N word and more.
I hear the fan did an interview on Salt Lake TV this morning and claiming he said nothing bad. He called it…wait for it…FAKE NEWS.
By identifying himself people have gone on the social media hunt and this guy apparently is just a little mouthy about his bigotry. They say his posting and comments are pretty bad. Busted big mouth.
Salt Lake City…
re: #474 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I want to see three of them towing an Me 321 Gigant glider.
What a dream.
I suggested that they offer flights in the dead of winter in which you pay to get carried onto the plane on a stretcher as the last casualty to leave Stalingrad while a group of ragged, desperate soldiers chase your plane down the runway…
re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth
Apparently if you just add enough zeros it stops being one..? 🤔
— Cas (@casempire) March 12, 2019
Zero Hedge Says Facebook Banned Users From Sharing Its Posts
Zero Hedge said that Facebook Inc. has begun banning users from sharing links to posts published on the libertarian financial website, known for its bearish bent and anti-establishment commentary.
Readers of the blog reported being unable to share links to Zero Hedge articles via the social media platform, which has previously said it’s making a concerted effort to clamp down on fake news and harmful content amid mounting criticism. Alerts from Facebook said such stories “couldn’t be shared, because this link goes against our Community Standards.”
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More at link.
BREAKING: Venezuela’s chief prosecutor Tarek William Saab says he’s launched an investigation into opposition leader Juan Guaido over suspicions he was involved in an attack on the country’s power grid. https://t.co/Y9DA82X8z6
— The Associated Press (@AP) March 12, 2019
re: #472 Eclectic Cyborg
This country is getting appallingly corrupt.
Are there are any sane and moral motherfuckers left anymore?
We’ve been told to sit in the back of the bus and be quiet. So we’re back there studying how to drive this thing, and all the rules and regulations.
good grief
Erik Prince grinned, “We were there to talk about Iran policy.” Hasan asked if he should’ve disclosed that to Congress. Prince: “I did.” Hasan: The testimony doesn’t show any mention of Iran. Prince scrambled “I don’t know if they got the transcript wrong”https://t.co/xh5CKWzD0T
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) March 12, 2019
re: #417 darthstar
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Comment on that article: “Black velvet doesn’t have the same Je ne sais quoi as it did in the 70’s.”
Gonna run out and run around in the sun. 42 and sunny right now, headed for high 40s. Time to wash the car and get the last of the salt residue off it.
I need some sunshine…vitamin D!
re: #483 retired cynic
Comment on that article: “Black velvet doesn’t have the same Je ne sais quoi as it did in the 70’s.”
Nowadays you can sais all the quoi you want. It’s been pulled off the pedestal.
Surprise!
Analysis Of Brexit-Centric Twitter
“… researchers conclude that the pro-leave Twitter community is receiving support from far-right Twitter accounts based outside of the UK.” Activity https://t.co/KgtaCGfuB1 #Brexit #UK #EU— V (@DotDotDotDash) March 12, 2019
re: #401 Dave In Austin
What is the beef with Boeing?
re: #464 Backwoods_Sleuth
Boeing directed a lot of Free Speech at Mitch McConnell’s PAC and the NRSC in the last cycle. Something to consider today.
Boeing has no interest in promoting or selling a plane that is dangerous. It’s not like the Sacklers who knew that opioid addiction leads to profits; or the tobacco companies where a toxic product that eventually kills many of its users also leads to profits. For the airplane industry, a product that is dangerous leads to the death of the company. I have no doubt that they are working full time — overtime — trying to determine what happened. They would not have knowingly sold a plane that posed such a danger.
If Boeing dies, the damage to this nation and its technology is incalculable — it’s not as though there is another American firm that can take up its mantle to produce civilian aircraft. They have to resolve this soon — and my concern is that the real problem is so embedded in a lethal flaw in the design that it cannot be corrected on a timely basis.
re: #488 Hecuba’s daughter
Yep. I worked on Boeing products for years and I always found them to be solid, well designed aircraft. This new problem with the 737 is just so out of the blue strange I am having trouble wrapping my head around it.
re: #487 Scottish Dragon
What is the beef with Boeing?
Seems to be software issues with stall control due to issues with software updates in new 737-800s and lack of education to pilots and airlines. Two huge crashes in the last 6 months. Airlines in the far east are parking the planes.
re: #469 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Penny-ante shit is illegal. “Donating a building” is noblesse oblige.
Especially if your daddy knows you can’t get into Harvard without getting a building named after him.
Like Jared.
re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth
JFC, these people…
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This proposal is literally everything wrong with the US approach to a safety net: use your own money to pay for family leave so that you can work later into life.
Saying it out loud should be sufficient to get it laughed to oblivion.
The unfortunate part is that when Democrats oppose the bill, the compliant media will go along with Republican framing that Democrats are against families.
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
re: #488 Hecuba’s daughter
Boeing has no interest in promoting or selling a plane that is dangerous. It’s not like the Sacklers who knew that opioid addiction leads to profits; or the tobacco companies where a toxic product that eventually kills many of its users also leads to profits. For the airplane industry, a product that is dangerous leads to the death of the company. I have no doubt that they are working full time — overtime — trying to determine what happened. They would not have knowingly sold a plane that posed such a danger.
If Boeing dies, the damage to this nation and its technology is incalculable — it’s not as though there is another American firm that can take up its mantle to produce civilian aircraft. They have to resolve this soon — and my concern is that the real problem is so embedded in a lethal flaw in the design that it cannot be corrected on a timely basis.
Yeah, I’ve spent my whole life in Seattle and the surrounding area, so naturally I hate Boeing with a purple passion—but they genuinely are “too big to fail”.
Also, too…we don’t have another civilian jet liner manufacturer in the US and only Airbus can compete in the global market. We literally cannot afford to lose Boeing.
Maybe somebody in congressional oversight should have thought about that before allowing McDonnel Douglas and Boeing to merge.
re: #489 Scottish Dragon
Yep. I worked on Boeing products for years and I always found them to be solid, well designed aircraft. This new problem with the 737 is just so out of the blue strange I am having trouble wrapping my head around it.
One of my best buddies back in high school that I flew competitive model rockets with made it to VP of design software at Boeing. He retired about three years ago. I wonder what his thinking is these days.
re: #490 ObserverArt
Seems to be software issues with stall control due to issues with software updates in new 737-800s and lack of education to pilots and airlines. Two huge crashes in the last 6 months. Airlines in the far east are parking the planes.
I meant he seemed to have a personal gripe.
Trump the technologist or Trump the technophobe.
Yeah, he’s the latter. But he doesn’t realize it. His supporters don’t care either.
Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are….
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 12, 2019
In fact, here’s a tweet claiming you now tech better than anyone:https://t.co/c26gkPhy40
Here’s you claiming you want the US to have better tech than anyone: https://t.co/E55WYAEjxj— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 12, 2019
And yet, you think we have too much technology?
Go knit or something, because you’re not making any sense.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 12, 2019
And I know this about Twitter - not having an edit button sucks.
re: #497 Scottish Dragon
I meant he seemed to have a personal gripe.
Ah. Sorry. I think he is just frustrated with another too big to fail company.
re: #494 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Yeah, I’ve spent my whole life in Seattle and the surrounding area, so naturally I hate Boeing with a purple passion—but they genuinely are “too big to fail”.
Our anti-trust watchdogs failed us. We used to have three or four competitive civilian jetliner manufacturers here in the US.
Now we have two in the entire world.
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
As an official old, I thought that too—when I got shingles at age 24. (Back when we wore onions on our belts, soaking with Domeboro provided the best relief.)
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
I had a case. A year later, I got the vaccine so I wouldn’t get it again. The vax is fully covered by ins., but only for those over 50, IIRC.
{{{gentle hugs}}}
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
Are you sure your 39? //
That sucks.
re: #499 ObserverArt
Ah. Sorry. I think he is just frustrated with another too big to fail company.
I know they gave money to Mitch and the GOP etc. and people here are mad about that.
Of course they did. They aren’t stupid and they want contracts. If Dems win back the Senate, Boeing will happily shovel money to our people. If we want to stop this, we have to do something fundamental (and let’s be clear, the SCOTUS seems predisposed to rule against anti corruption bills right now)
re: #432 darthstar
They argue that the EPA encourages states to incorporate state-specific science, and that because West Virginians are heavier, their bodies can handle more pollutants, and that because they drink less water, they are less exposed to the pollutants.
I’d insist on seeing the math on that. Until then, I’ll call it bullshit.
re: #494 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Yeah, I’ve spent my whole life in Seattle and the surrounding area, so naturally I hate Boeing with a purple passion—but they genuinely are “too big to fail”.
I forget the name of the guy who was known as ‘The senator from Boeing.’ Scoop Jackson?
re: #500 Scottish Dragon
Our anti-trust watchdogs failed us. We used to have three or four competitive civilian jetliner manufacturers here in the US.
Now we have two in the entire world.
There’s no law of physics that says it’s possible to build a jet airliner and sell it at a price resulting in ticket prices that people are willing to pay. Subsidy may be the only option. If so, I prefer the direct government subsidy Airbus model over the “soak the locals with tax giveaways, otherwise unnecessary infrastructure improvements, and outright bribes and still move to Chicago” model of Boeing.
re: #492 Mike Lamb
This proposal is literally everything wrong with the US approach to a safety net: use your own money to pay for family leave so that you can work later into life.
Saying it out loud should be sufficient to get it laughed to oblivion.
The unfortunate part is that when Democrats oppose the bill, the compliant media will go along with Republican framing that Democrats are against families.
Honestly I’m not against having this as an option if people want to do it, but there should be other, more convenient avenues available before something like this is even considered.
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
Damn. Sorry to hear that. I’m 37 myself and even at my relatively young age, I find myself thankful for every healthy day that I get.
re: #508 Eclectic Cyborg
Honestly I’m not against having this as an option if people want to do it, but there should be other, more convenient avenues available before something like this is even considered.
I don’t want it to be an option because then it becomes the “You can take maternity leave on the company dime, or on yours, but only one of those goes on your company record” choice.
Here is the design for the new Air Force One: #TheResistance #Resist pic.twitter.com/4X75m7zp7R
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) March 12, 2019
re: #506 wrenchwench
I forget the name of the guy who was known as ‘The senator from Boeing.’ Scoop Jackson?
Actually I think that phrase dates back to the thirties, before even Warren Magnuson’s time. James Farley supposedly told FDR: “The Senators from Boeing are here to see you.” But certainly Magnuson and Jackson filled that role in my yoot.
re: #507 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
There’s no law of physics that says it’s possible to build a jet airliner and sell it at a price resulting in ticket prices that people are willing to pay. Subsidy may be the only option. If so, I prefer the direct government subsidy Airbus model over the “soak the locals with tax giveaways, otherwise unnecessary infrastructure improvements, and outright bribes and still move to Chicago” model of Boeing.
And there’s no way to factor in the carbon cost. Flying is the least efficient form of transportation known to man. The most efficient: bicycles. Wenches know.
re: #510 Belafon
I don’t want it to be an option because then it becomes the “You can take maternity leave on the company dime, or on yours, but only one of those goes on your company record” choice.
Actually I was thinking of something like: “The government will provide X amount of maternity leave. If you want to take more, you have the option of doing this social security thing.”
— Hesster56 (@hesster56) March 12, 2019
Trump and technology. Two words that never should go together.
Trump wants the latest and greatest for the military (which is so costly precisely because of the technology involved), but then goes on this rant?
He is addled.
But no one will tell him otherwise.
re: #517 lawhawk
Without technology, Trump would have never been elected.
re: #513 wrenchwench
And there’s no way to factor in the carbon cost. Flying is the least efficient form of transportation known to man. The most efficient: bicycles. Wenches know.
Boeing had a design for a hydrogen-burning 747—the bulge on top went back all the way. Where the hydrogen comes from, though….
Incomplete burning of natural gas would be worse than burning petroleum I think, and isn’t that where we get most of our hydrogen now?
I hope our friend James Anymouse in the Nebraska panhandle (and all those is Colorado) are ready for this coming winter “hurricane.” washingtonpost.com
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) March 12, 2019
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
A few years ago, I got shingles 2 months after getting the vaccine. The good news is that you will survive and usually there are no long-term complications, but the experience is pure misery.
Moneychangers setting up in the temple.
Trump autographed Bible sells for $325 https://t.co/BHNYRrNRaW
— Jill Colvin (@colvinj) March 12, 2019
re: #523 The Vicious Babushka
Moneychangers setting up in the temple.
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They must’ve forgotten what that carpenters lad Yeshua did to the moneychangers…
(Hint: only time known the guy was known to use violence).
re: #508 Eclectic Cyborg
Honestly I’m not against having this as an option if people want to do it, but there should be other, more convenient avenues available before something like this is even considered.
I’m pretty strongly opposed to it. And I’m really opposed to it based on the framing. This doesn’t, in any way, catch us up to the rest of the industrialized world. It’s a loan for maternity/paternity leave. The framing as if this is some kind of great gift being bestowed on the plebes is offensive.
re: #486 Alephnaught
“… researchers conclude that the pro-leave Twitter community is receiving support from far-right Twitter accounts based outside of the UK.”
As long as enough people still believe that online presence = real person somewhere, this sort of thing is going to continue unabated.
re: #469 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Penny-ante shit is illegal. “Donating a building” is noblesse oblige.
It is also a form of Affirmative Action for the 1%.
re: #500 Scottish Dragon
Our anti-trust watchdogs failed us. We used to have three or four competitive civilian jetliner manufacturers here in the US.
Now we have two in the entire world.
It was sold to us as economy of scale.
re: #514 Eclectic Cyborg
Actually I was thinking of something like: “The government will provide X amount of maternity leave. If you want to take more, you have the option of doing this social security thing.”
Naaah. I think we just need to supply real paid maternity leave, which I would say is at least up to the time that the child can sit up.
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
It is an adult form of chicken pox. Did you have that as a child?
I did, but only a mild case.
I have had outbreaks of shingles in my late 40’s and again last year, approaching 60. In both cases, they were brought on by nervous exhaustion.
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
I’ve had it twice in the past couple years mainly as a side effect of Humira depressing my immune system. It is no fun and it is just hell on one side of my body. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. All I can tell you is to get as much rest as you can.
Top ten cities for aggressive driving:
1. Los Angeles
2. Philadelphia
3. Sacramento, Calif.
4. Atlanta
5. San Francisco
6. San Diego
7. Orlando, Fla.
8. Detroit
9. Austin, Texas
10. Las Vegas
New York, New Jersey, I am severely disappointed in you, didn’t make the top ten.
usatoday.com
re: #492 Mike Lamb
This proposal is literally everything wrong with the US approach to a safety net: use your own money to pay for family leave so that you can work later into life.
Saying it out loud should be sufficient to get it laughed to oblivion.
The unfortunate part is that when Democrats oppose the bill, the compliant media will go along with Republican framing that Democrats are against families.
You are absolutely right. This is an extremely bad idea. First it will damage Social Security and substantially increase the budget deficit; second, currently those of us who are older often cannot find employment that pays meaningful wages and this proposal will guarantee there are more of us in this category. This is all part of the long-term GOP effort to undermine the social safety net.
My suggestion as always: let’s return to the Clinton era federal taxes, with appropriate modifications to help middle and lower income workers and with some adjustments to the estate taxes, which actually did affect people who were not wealthy at that time, and perhaps some increases toward AOC’s suggestions. Under that scenario, we could afford infrastructure, health care, education, and aid to families.
re: #533 Shropshire Slasher
Top ten cities for aggressive driving:
New York, New Jersey, I am severely disappointed in you, didn’t make the top ten.
usatoday.com
Neither did Boston. I’m calling shenanigans.
re: #535 garzooma
Neither did Boston. I’m calling shenanigans.
NYC metro: it’s called defensive driving.
re: #533 Shropshire Slasher
Top ten cities for aggressive driving:
New York, New Jersey, I am severely disappointed in you, didn’t make the top ten.
usatoday.com
Detroit drivers are more aggressive than New York? GTFOOH.
re: #523 The Vicious Babushka
I thought the shit-goblin practiced his .sig for better consistency. That one is awfully rough. Who authenticates such trash kitsch.
Still struggling with the flu here. Sleep two hours at the most then have to get up and cough…
I can literally drive all the way across Ohio and Pennsylvania and then surrender the wheel to Z when we go over the Delaware Water Gap.
re: #539 Joe Bacon 🌹
Still struggling with the flu here. Sleep two hours at the most then have to get up and cough…
Do you have a humidifier?
The Trump administration is preparing to shutter all 21 international offices of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, a move that could slow the processing of family visa applications, foreign adoptions and citizenship petitions from members of the military.
re: #535 garzooma
Neither did Boston. I’m calling shenanigans.
Neither did Chicago. You mean The Blues Brothers wasn’t a documentary? I am disappoint!
Last night, or actually early this morning, I had a dream that I was desperate for a cup of coffee but could not find a single coffee mug in the entire house! I was about to run down the street to Starbucks and then I woke up.
re: #541 Belafon
Do you have a humidifier?
Yes it’s going but steaming in the shower Is working a lot better.
re: #542 Scottish Dragon
Welp, that takes care of APPLY FOR ASS ISLAND WHILE YOUR STILL IN YOU’RE HOME COUNTRY!!!11!!!!
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re: #549 jeffreyw
Cardinals and Blue Jays. Now all you need are some Orioles and you’ve got the Baseball Trifecta.
re: #552 Eclectic Cyborg
Cardinals and Blue Jays. Now all you need are some Orioles and you’ve got the Baseball Trifecta.
Add some Ravens for the football fans.
re: #552 Eclectic Cyborg
Cardinals and Blue Jays. Now all you need are some Orioles and you’ve got the Baseball Trifecta.
We had an oriole nest in a walnut tree years ago but no more than fleeting glimpses since.
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
Had them young, had them old. Painful yes. Stress caused mine.
Paying off the admissions officers comes to mind.
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) March 12, 2019
re: #556 Old Liberal
Had them young, had them old. Painful yes. Stress caused mine.
If you don’t have stress before you have the shingles, the amount you are about to experience makes up for it.
Never again complain about Affirmative Action or @davidhogg111 ‘s celebrity admission taking away ‘well deserved spots’
Link to indictments- bribery, mail fraud, paying another to take tests, claiming to be athletes and more!!https://t.co/RBhZjbjxFi https://t.co/4Q248Mx3Hv— Maggie Jordan (@MaggieJordanACN) March 12, 2019
re: #553 Scottish Dragon
Add some Ravens for the football fans.
It’s actually kind of surprising how many professional sports teams are named for birds. Football also has the Falcons and Seahawks. The NBA has the Hawks and Pelicans. The NHL has the Ducks and Penguins.
re: #532 Joe Bacon 🌹
I’ve had it twice in the past couple years mainly as a side effect of Humira depressing my immune system. It is no fun and it is just hell on one side of my body. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. All I can tell you is to get as much rest as you can.
my last outbreak was relatively mild but basically i could not be active more than 3-4 hours per day.
re: #548 Joe Bacon 🌹
Steven Miller’s fingerprints are all over this.
Bold of you to assume he didn’t burn his fingerprints off in order to better collect the skin of hobos for his new suit
re: #562 KGxvi
Bold of you to assume he didn’t burn his fingerprints off in order to better collect the skin of hobos for his new suit
IT RUBS THE LOTION IN IT’S SKIN!
My wife had shingles at 29. We had a 7-month old she got hit with flu and then sinus infection just as we were moving half-way across the world in cold December. After getting our apartment in order, she just collapsed in pain: shingles. I remember one of the toughest things was trying to breast feed while keeping the baby clear from infection.
re: #564 Barefoot Grin
My wife had shingles at 29. We had a 7-month old she got hit with flu and then sinus infection just as we were moving half-way across the world in cold December. After getting our apartment in order, she just collapsed in pain: shingles. I remember one of the toughest things was trying to breast feed while keeping the baby clear from infection.
That is when a breast pump and bottle are called for…
Unfu…. nope. Totally fucking believable.
Lisa Page told Congressional investigators that senior FBI officials disliked HRC and expressed it. pic.twitter.com/Ac93Eh5S6W
— Adam Goldman (@adamgoldmanNYT) March 12, 2019
Trump and the FBI (and DOJ) had no problem going after Strzok and Page, but left anti-Clinton people in place, because reasons.
So when the right wing goon squad claims there’s a deep state, take a look in the mirror, because 1) they don’t exist, and 2) the so called deep state is protecting Trump at all costs, including the rule of law and the US constitution because of a vendetta against Clinton and Democrats that extended to the investigations in to Trump’s shenanigans that turned out to be wholly warranted, while investigations into Clinton turned out to be unwarranted but the right wingers demanded to continue ad infinitum.
re: #559 Scottish Dragon
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Really answers the question of “How did these dumb fucks get into that college?”.
Summer tan is 50% off.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 12, 2019
re: #567 Eventual Carrion
Really answers the question of “How did these dumb fucks get into that college?”.
Reminds me of this:
re: #567 Eventual Carrion
Really answers the question of “How did these dumb fucks get into that college?”.
It’s been awhile since I was in college but even then (2003), I remember noticing a distinct difference in the efforts put in by those who were paying their own way (of which I was one) or those whose parents/family were paying for them.
Take a wild guess which group worked harder…
re: #565 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That is when a breast pump and bottle are called for…
Indeed. I don’t recall why that didn’t come up.
re: #571 Barefoot Grin
Indeed. I don’t recall why that didn’t come up.
Kids automatically depress your effective IQ by at least 15 points ( I know, I raised four of them)
re: #570 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s been awhile since I was in college but even then (2003), I remember noticing a distinct difference in the efforts put in by those who were paying their own way (of which I was one) or those whose parents/family were paying for them.
Take a wild guess which group worked harder…
as a former university professor, I can confirm this
re: #562 KGxvi
Bold of you to assume he didn’t burn his fingerprints off in order to better collect the skin of hobos for his new suit
How many sins does Miller have left?
re: #573 Backwoods_Sleuth
as a former university professor, I can confirm this
Is there anything you haven’t done?
Drive a cab? That was C_L. Or both of you…
re: #566 lawhawk
Unfu…. nope. Totally fucking believable.
Trump and the FBI (and DOJ) had no problem going after Strzok and Page, but left anti-Clinton people in place, because reasons.
So when the right wing goon squad claims there’s a deep state, take a look in the mirror, because 1) they don’t exist, and 2) the so called deep state is protecting Trump at all costs, including the rule of law and the US constitution because of a vendetta against Clinton and Democrats that extended to the investigations in to Trump’s shenanigans that turned out to be wholly warranted, while investigations into Clinton turned out to be unwarranted but the right wingers demanded to continue ad infinitum.
One of them went in front of cameras in late October.
O_o
Pete Davidson made a joke on SNL about the Catholic Church. Now officials are demanding an apology. https://t.co/5zKjrj186Q
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) March 12, 2019
re: #568 lawhawk
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And they both have magic powers and wield weapons that violate all laws of physics.
Oh, and you can’t seem to kill them even if you cut them in half.
re: #559 Scottish Dragon
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I don’t understand why just Felicity Huffman and not her spouse, William H. Macy, was named in the complaint, as he is mentioned (only as “spouse”) as having participated in the scheme and is on some of the recordings.
(Huffman section starts on page 72)
edited to remove not—she was named, he was not
re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth
O_o
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The same people defending Tucker “raping kids is funny” Carlsen.
re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth
O_o
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Institutions never recognize that being laughed at is an improvement.
re: #493 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Saying this to not sound disrespectful to those that are older than me(I’m 39)
I went to the Doctor last week-I have shingles. I thought only old people got it.//
Pretty ‘effin painful.
Ouuuuchh!! Yeah, they are NASTY — so sorry to hear you got hit, and got hit so young. I got ‘em when I was 50 but fortunately a mild case (optic nerve, which was scary). I”m waiting anxiously to get my second dose of the new shingles vaccine and hope it wards off a recurrence.
re: #583 CleverToad
Ouuuuchh!! Yeah, they are NASTY — so sorry to hear you got hit, and got hit so young. I got ‘em when I was 50 but fortunately a mild case (optic nerve, which was scary). I”m waiting anxiously to get my second dose of the new shingles vaccine and hope it wards off a recurrence.
There’s a second one? I must have gotten the old one. Does Terry Bradshaw spokesmodel for both of them?
re: #584 wrenchwench
There’s a second one? I must have gotten the old one. Does Terry Bradshaw spokesmodel for both of them?
The new one is supposed to be much more effective, but it’s also expensive. I could get the old one for free and have been meaning to for years, but haven’t. Decisions, decisions….
re: #584 wrenchwench
There’s a second one? I must have gotten the old one. Does Terry Bradshaw spokesmodel for both of them?
The new one (Shingrix) came out recently, I think 2017, and is supposed to have a 90% effective rate, much higher than the earlier version. Two doses required within 2-6 months of each other, but there’s currently a major shortage so I couldn’t get an appt for the second dose till the end of May.
Go for it when you can get it.
re: #560 KGxvi
It’s actually kind of surprising how many professional sports teams are named for birds. Football also has the Falcons and Seahawks. The NBA has the Hawks and Pelicans. The NHL has the Ducks and Penguins.
Montreal has the Alouettes.
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