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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:20:04am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:21:14am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:26:53am

When did “chonky” become a word? It makes me laugh every time I see it and I don’t even know why.

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retired cynic  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:27:45am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

It appeared in my world about the same time as kitteh and babby.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:30:15am

re: #4 retired cynic

It appeared in my world about the same time as kitteh and babby.

and smol and fren

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:30:49am
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Citizen K  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:31:07am

This always happens with people who shit on Popular Vote ideas. Apparently the Popular Vote will turn large states into nigh-unassailable monoliths. Forget the fact that despite both California and New York going D overwhelmingly, you still had more people vote Republican in each than the population of several states’ total electorates, combined.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:33:02am
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Scottish Dragon  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:35:00am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:35:05am

I had one thing on my bucket list when I retire and that is to ride Amtrak across the country.

Now Trump’s budget takes a meat ax to Amtrak and kills long distance train service, replacing it with busses…

Another reason for me to tell Trump to take an aerodynamic intercourse at Earth’s natural satellite…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:35:09am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

For anyone who doesn’t know, this is NOT the actor Morgan Freeman.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:36:18am

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

For anyone who doesn’t know, this is NOT the actor Morgan Freeman.

Darn.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:37:01am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

and smol and fren

I thought those were a little later, with birb.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:37:23am

re: #7 Citizen K

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This always happens with people who shit on Popular Vote ideas. Apparently the Popular Vote will turn large states into nigh-unassailable monoliths. Forget the fact that despite both California and New York going D overwhelmingly, you still had more people vote Republican in each than the population of several states’ total electorates, combined.

I also remember during the Florida recount Schweinerei, the possibility that votes in districts that were recounted might count for 1.000008 times as much as votes in districts where they “forgot” to request recounts sent them into absolute hysteria about THE SACRED ONE-MAN-ONE-VOTE PRINCIPLE!!!!!. That principle doesn’t apply if you live in California, where you get .85 votes in the Presidential election, or Wyoming, where you get 2.4 votes, I guess.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:38:15am

re: #7 Citizen K

He’s saying the popular vote doesn’t represent land mass fairly, which only makes sense if the dirt could vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:38:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:39:05am

re: #13 wrenchwench

I thought those were a little later, with birb.

my memory is not so great these days

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:39:11am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

A double-team of Morgan Freeman and Samuel L. Jackson on Tucker’s show? Hell yes, I’d watch it.

It’d be glorious.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:39:37am

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

For anyone who doesn’t know, this is NOT the actor Morgan Freeman.

Dammit.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:40:27am

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Who is the asshole who put a HESH tank round in the airbag system???

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:41:06am

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

Dammit.

The Morgan Freeman in the tweet is a woman. She’s a TV producer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:41:24am
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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:41:41am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

my memory is not so great these days

I appreciate the date on the top of each comment, but day-of-the-week would help, also.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:41:43am

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

The Morgan Freeman in the tweet is a woman. She’s a TV producer.

Ah, OK.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:42:55am

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

Ah, OK.

Might be even better.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:43:09am

re: #7 Citizen K

This always happens with people who shit on Popular Vote ideas. Apparently the Popular Vote will turn large states into nigh-unassailable monoliths. Forget the fact that despite both California and New York going D overwhelmingly, you still had more people vote Republican in each than the population of several states’ total electorates, combined.

Yeah the popular vote only counts votes in California and NY.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:45:17am
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DodgerFan1988  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:45:30am

Remember when conservatives use to say they’re only against illegal immigrants, they support legal immigrants?

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:46:27am

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

Remember when conservatives use to say they’re only against illegal immigrants, they support legal immigrants?

Rush means into his belly.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:46:43am

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

Remember when conservatives use to say they’re only against illegal immigrants, they support legal immigrants?

What’s their measure of “assimilation”, I wonder?

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:47:12am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

my memory is not so great these days

We’re still talking shingles on the senior thread. (I always thought ‘dead thread’ was a misnomer.)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:48:43am

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

Doesn’t Rush have some underage prostitutes to fiddle with in the Dominican Republic or something? Or is he saving that for his retirement? It would spare us his intellectual flatulence.

Yeah, and Rush? Don’t forget your suitcase full of Viagra, either, you impotent old fuck.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:48:52am

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

Remember when conservatives use to say they’re only against illegal immigrants, they support legal immigrants?

And by “assimilated” I guess they mean that these new imported people are not listening to AM Hate Radio.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:51:40am

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pat Sajak is a few vowels short of a puzzle.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:53:00am

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

Doesn’t Rush have some underage prostitutes to fiddle with in the Dominican Republic or something? Or is he saving that for his retirement? It would spare us his intellectual flatulence.

Yeah, and Rush? Don’t forget your suitcase full of Viagra, either, you impotent old fuck.

Don’t forget the Oxycontin. I’m sure Rush’s immigrant maid is heading for the Denny’s parking lot to score more for that fat pig.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:55:01am

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

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Remember when conservatives use to say they’re only against illegal immigrants, they support legal immigrants?

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:55:07am

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

Remember when conservatives use to say they’re only against illegal immigrants, they support legal immigrants?

Time’s used to be when you could say anything and speak the Truth and now People are oversensitive and just get all offended and snowflakey and Lefties want to have Safe Spaces.

——-

Can you believe I had to sit 3.4 second through instructions to say “1” for English or “2” for Spanish when I called my insurance company? Outrageous!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:55:22am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

and smol and fren

and doge

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:57:39am

re: #33 Sir John Barron

And by “assimilated” I guess they mean that these new imported people are not listening to AM Hate Radio.

Disaggregated in a sialic, upper mantle provenance magma?

Turned into Borg drones?

Become part of the Landru body from Star Trek TOS?

I have no freaking clue.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:59:37am

re: #39 Scottish Dragon

Disaggregated in a sialic, upper mantle provenance magma?

Turned into Borg drones?

Become part of the Landru body from Star Trek TOS?

I have no freaking clue.

Yeah, I bet Rush’s listeners are really super assimilated.

/

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:00:04pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder if he would tut-tut in just the same way if most of his entertainment choices denigrated white guys and white guy culture.
Nah, I don’t wonder at all.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:01:44pm

They’re voting on PM May’s Brexit plan in the British Parliament - it’s widely expected to go down in flames.

theguardian.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:01:52pm

re: #40 Sir John Barron

Yeah, I bet Rush’s listeners are really super assimilated.

/

head-up-the-ass-imilated

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:03:44pm

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

head-up-the-ass-imilated

Popeye of Borg approves… you will be askgimilated…. ack ack ack…

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:03:56pm

re: #30 Sir John Barron

What’s their measure of “assimilation”, I wonder?

Trump voter.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:04:34pm

re: #7 Citizen K

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This always happens with people who shit on Popular Vote ideas. Apparently the Popular Vote will turn large states into nigh-unassailable monoliths. Forget the fact that despite both California and New York going D overwhelmingly, you still had more people vote Republican in each than the population of several states’ total electorates, combined.

4,483,810 Californians voted for Trump in 2016. That is more than the estimated 2018 population of 24 states (slotting in between Kentucky and Oregon).

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:05:01pm

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

They’re voting on PM May’s Brexit plan in the British Parliament - it’s widely expected to go down in flames.

theguardian.com

Will that mean that May will finally go down too? Or does it still remain that there is no one who wants to be in charge when the UK shrinks to England + Wales only?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:10:18pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Will that mean that May will finally go down too? Or does it still remain that there is no one who wants to be in charge when the UK shrinks to England + Wales only?

Only three things would survive the apocalypse.

1) Twinkies

2) Cockroaches

3) Theresa May

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:13:09pm

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

Only three things would survive the apocalypse.

1) Twinkies

2) Cockroaches

3) Theresa May

4) Eddie Izzard will still be alive to ask Theresa May if she wants Cake or Death!

Eddie Izzard “Cake or Death” Sketch From Dress to Kill

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:13:20pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What he apparently doesn’t understand, is that aggressively pro-Likud voters are mostly Evangelicals. American Jews, on average, would prefer a leftier Israel.

Also American Jews, on average, are more likely to vote domestic issues than foreign policy. We’re super into health care, education, and environmental protection. Tikkun Olam.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:13:41pm

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

Only three things would survive the apocalypse.

1) Twinkies

2) Cockroaches

3) Theresa May

You’re forgetting Keith Richards

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:14:59pm

re: #51 Eventual Carrion

You’re forgetting Keith Richards

Keith Richards will survive the heat death of the universe. In the end, there will only be Keith Richards, drifting infinitely through the void.

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retired cynic  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:15:37pm

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:16:31pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:16:40pm

re: #15 Belafon

He’s saying the popular vote doesn’t represent land mass fairly, which only makes sense if the dirt could vote.

People who voted for Trump are dumber than dirt so it’s just the same as dirt voting.

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Teukka  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:17:28pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon 🌹

4) Eddie Izzard will still be alive to ask Theresa May if she wants Cake or Death!

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THE CAKE IS A LIE!

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:19:23pm
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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:19:39pm

re: #46 KGxvi

More fun facts about Trump’s vote total from California:

- the 4.4m votes he got in California was his third highest vote total out of the 50 states (only Florida and Texas gave him more votes)

- only three states (California, New York, and Florida) gave Clinton more votes than California gave to Trump

- California gave Trump 606k more votes than Texas gave Clinton

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:20:57pm

re: #58 KGxvi

More fun facts about Trump’s vote total from California:

- the 4.4m votes he got in California was his third highest vote total out of the 50 states (only Florida and Texas gave him more votes)

- only three states (California, New York, and Florida) gave Clinton more votes than California gave to Trump

- California gave Trump 606k more votes than Texas gave Clinton

Trump also ran on two ballot lines—Republican and American Independent (Remnant of George Wallace’s racist 1968 campaign).

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:22:55pm

re: #50 sagehen

What he apparently doesn’t understand, is that aggressively pro-Likud voters are mostly Evangelicals. American Jews, on average, would prefer a leftier Israel.

Also American Jews, on average, are more likely to vote domestic issues than foreign policy. We’re super into health care, education, and environmental protection. Tikkun Olam.

The DC conventional wisdom is so incredibly fucked up when it comes to racial/ethnic politics. It assumes the most important issue for Jewish Americans is Israel, it assumes the most important issue of Latinos is immigration. It is just as bad when it comes to identifying the most important issues for African Americans, or Muslims, or any other racial/ethnic/religious minority.

And this is despite poll after poll after poll showing that most Americans care about the same thing: the state of the economy; health care; education; the world not blowing up and/or melting

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:24:35pm

re: #30 Sir John Barron

What’s their measure of “assimilation”, I wonder?

It’s a trick question, they have no measure because they will always treat an immigrant as an “outsider,” no matter how much they change to suit the white native who feels threatened. The best they can ever hope for is to be seen as “one of the good ones,” because they’ll never be accepted as “one of us.”

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Citizen K  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:25:32pm

re: #60 KGxvi

The DC conventional wisdom is so incredibly fucked up when it comes to racial/ethnic politics. It assumes the most important issue for Jewish Americans is Israel, it assumes the most important issue of Latinos is immigration. It is just as bad when it comes to identifying the most important issues for African Americans, or Muslims, or any other racial/ethnic/religious minority.

And this is despite poll after poll after poll showing that most Americans care about the same thing: the state of the economy; health care; education; the world not blowing up and/or melting

The same CW that posits that everything must be Good News for the GOP/Bad News for the Dems, that Dems are in a perpetual case of Disarray, and that the GOP must be wizened sages that are to be taken at face value for everything even when they keep proving to be inveterate liars and grifters to the one.

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ipsos  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:27:09pm

Watching the Brexit debacle on BBC World News.

I’m no fancy Euro-political-expert type, but watching this go down, all I can conclude is that their shit is even more fucked up than our shit right now, which is saying something.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:27:09pm

Read the whole thing. This guy isn’t one of the rich and famous, but he was rich enough to be involved in the huge bribery scandal and positioned himself as one of the people who could help fix it.

Yeah, he fixed it alright.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:27:44pm

OK, Parliament voted the latest May scheme DOWN 391-242.

Now why is she still in office?

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:27:51pm

re: #63 ipsos

He knows how the game is played. He is the only winner on Brexit.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:29:28pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:30:32pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How long has this Takata airbag issue been going to go on? Seems like it’s been a thing for ten years. I guess Honda were slow to identify all the cars that they had them installed in.

Probably trying to keep costs spread out over time instead of the big hit of literally having all your cars involved.

That most likely means lawsuit time because there probably have been injuries in cars they knew were a problem.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:32:21pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Worsts???

The new Trump language.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:33:01pm

re: #68 ObserverArt

Some of the initial fixes have themselves been identified as flawed and need replacements.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:34:10pm

re: #65 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, Parliament voted the latest May scheme DOWN 391-242.

Now why is she still in office?

Because the Tories shot their wad too early, running a no-confidence vote in what they thought would be a means of bolstering support for her but in reality just made her bulletproof as the party circles the drain.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:34:40pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t forget the Oxycontin. I’m sure Rush’s immigrant maid is heading for the Denny’s parking lot to score more for that fat pig.

Can we trade Rush and Tucker for about 10 or so immigrants? Maybe 20? Seems fair to me.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:34:45pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:37:47pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:38:10pm

re: #65 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, Parliament voted the latest May scheme DOWN 391-242.

Now why is she still in office?

No one else in the Tory Party wants the job??

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:38:54pm

re: #63 ipsos

Watching the Brexit debacle on BBC World News.

I’m no fancy Euro-political-expert type, but watching this go down, all I can conclude is that their shit is even more fucked up than our shit right now, which is saying something.

“Debacle” is indeed the right word.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:39:49pm

re: #65 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, Parliament voted the latest May scheme DOWN 391-242.

Now why is she still in office?

Because no one else wants the poisoned chalice that is Brexit.

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ipsos  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:40:59pm

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

“Debacle” is indeed the right word.

Also, when John Bercow leaves the Speaker’s chair later this year, I want to hire him to come to Casa Ipsos and resolve household disputes.

“orrrr-DERRRRRRRRRRRRR!”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:44:02pm

re: #78 ipsos

Also, when John Bercow leaves the Speaker’s chair later this year, I want to hire him to come to Casa Ipsos and resolve household disputes.

“orrrr-DERRRRRRRRRRRRR!”

Heh.

Right now, the Brits are confronted with three choices if they want an extension to Article 50 and to postpone the 29 March leaving date.

Either a fresh referendum, a general election, or rescind Article 50.

And that’s probably what the EU27 are gonna tell her. Choose one.

No more cake, no more unicorns, no more utopian bullshit. This is it - the rubber meets the road.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:44:50pm

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Because no one else wants the poisoned chalice that is Brexit.

It’s a perfect storm of stupidity. Everybody thinks they have a better way of handling Brexit, but nobody wants to step forward because they’d almost immediately face total opposition from the rest of the party.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:45:13pm

I was kind of wondering what good ol’ Boris had to say about the Brexit proceedings.

Found this…

Boris quote from video.

“Whatever the Government tried to do, it has not I’m afraid, succeeded… The result is like Adam and Eve in the garden - they have sewed an apron of fig leaves that does nothing to conceal the embarrassment and indignity of the UK.”

Boris Johnson MP at the EU Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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plansbandc  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:51:26pm
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ericblair  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:57:35pm

re: #80 Targetpractice

It’s a perfect storm of stupidity. Everybody thinks they have a better way of handling Brexit, but nobody wants to step forward because they’d almost immediately face total opposition from the rest of the party.

Welcome to referenda. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.

More correctly, most referenda, whatever the question asked, get translated to “would you like to kick the government in the balls? [y/n]”

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2019 • 12:58:31pm

re: #65 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, Parliament voted the latest May scheme DOWN 391-242.

Now why is she still in office?

Because no one in the British government is competent or wants the job?

Because no one in the British government wants to get up there and admit this whole thing was a cockup and that the proponents lied and should pay the price politically for dead-ending the whole nation this way?

Because no one in the British government has the balls to tell everyone that Brexit is off, and that those who pushed for it will be sacked and because those who might tell them that would also be sacked.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:00:35pm

re: #84 lawhawk

No one in the British government - or the opposition, for that matter - has the courage to do that.

That’s why they find themselves in this mess. No one has the spine to tell the people, “Well, we heard what you had to say in 2016 in that advisory referendum, and you advised us to leave the EU. Sadly, your advice was shit, so we’re not going to be following that. And that’s that.”

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:01:20pm

re: #65 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, Parliament voted the latest May scheme DOWN 391-242.

Now why is she still in office?

Because there are people so worried about giving up power that they’ll take the country down even if they outwardly don’t want the country to burn.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:05:35pm

And here we go.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:05:57pm

Trump will never resign. Period.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:06:22pm

re: #87 Dr Lizardo

And here we go.

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Question: What is Article 50 and why would it need to be revoked?

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:07:38pm

re: #63 ipsos

Watching the Brexit debacle on BBC World News.

I’m no fancy Euro-political-expert type, but watching this go down, all I can conclude is that their shit is even more fucked up than our shit right now, which is saying something.

When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:08:21pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: What is Article 50 and why would it need to be revoked?

Article 50 is the provision of the EU treaty that allows members to leave the Union.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:09:07pm

re: #83 ericblair

Welcome to referenda. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.

More correctly, most referenda, whatever the question asked, get translated to “would you like to kick the government in the balls? [y/n]”

California, last I knew, is still suffering from one that passed back when I lived there. Proposition 13.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:09:13pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: What is Article 50 and why would it need to be revoked?

Article 50 is the provision that allows a country to leave the EU. It’s Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty that established the EU.

It also sets the ground rules that there are 2 years from when Article 50 is invoked to conclude a deal to exit.

The country seeking to exit can revoke on its own terms per its own law. In other words, they could take it back. That’s the situation they’re in now, where they can’t go ahead with Brexit, and no one wants to go back, and a no-deal brexit would be even worse.

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mmmirele  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:09:15pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: What is Article 50 and why would it need to be revoked?

Article 50 is the article that lets an EU member state leave the EU. Revoking it would say the UK is not leaving.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:09:21pm

re: #87 Dr Lizardo

And here we go.

Senior EU official tells me UK now has 3 options:

1) leave with no deal on March 29
2) ask for extension (dependant on reason, length & EU27 unanimity)
3) revoke article 50

“There will be no further talks,” the source says.

Wouldn’t revoking Article 50 require approval from the Parliament? Is it possible that none of the choices will pass Parliament?

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:09:56pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: What is Article 50 and why would it need to be revoked?

Article 50 is the article in the EU charter that says a country can leave the union. It was invoked so it would need to be revoked. A take backsie

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:10:59pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: What is Article 50 and why would it need to be revoked?

The UK invoked Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union, which allows for an EU member state to leave the EU within 24 months of its invocation.

As things stand, the Parliament would need to vote to revoke Article 50, as it was passed as a law in the Parliament (with Royal Assent).

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:12:00pm

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

Wouldn’t revoking Article 50 require approval from the Parliament? Is it possible that none of the choices will pass Parliament?

Yep.

And that could all end up meaning an “accidental crash out” of the UK from the EU……the UK leaving on 29 March without having passed the Withdrawal Agreement.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:12:21pm

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

Wouldn’t revoking Article 50 require approval from the Parliament? Is it possible that none of the choices will pass Parliament?

Well, if options 2 or 3 fail in Parliament, they’re effectively choosing option 1. If they reject option 1, then they need option 2 or 3 to happen. And it doesn’t seem like they have much of a say on option 2, so that basically leaves their whole lives behind door number three…

Door Number Three - Jimmy Buffett - A 1 A

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:14:04pm

And in case anyone’s wondering, the Fixed Term Parliaments Act of 2011 removed the Monarch’s power to dissolve the Parliament.

So now, the Queen can’t just say, “Get stuffed” and send them all packing, thereby triggering an election.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:17:05pm

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

I’m thinking either they’ll go the extension route or it’ll end up being “Fuck it, we screwed up and we’re going back on this” with Article 50.

A No-Deal would be widespread political and economic suicide.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:17:19pm

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

And in case anyone’s wondering, the Fixed Term Parliaments Act of 2011 removed the Monarch’s power to dissolve the Parliament.

So now, the Queen can’t just say, “Get stuffed” and send them all packing, thereby triggering an election.

Thanks for that. That answers a question as well. An election has to occur every five years if the government isn’t dissolved after a no-confidence vote.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:17:30pm

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

And in case anyone’s wondering, the Fixed Term Parliaments Act of 2011 removed the Monarch’s power to dissolve the Parliament.

So now, the Queen can’t just say, “Get stuffed” and send them all packing, thereby triggering an election.

Yeah, but when was the last time Parliament was dissolved by royal prerogative without the advise of the PM?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:18:25pm

re: #103 KGxvi

Yeah, but when was the last time Parliament was dissolved by royal prerogative without the advise of the PM?

Sometimes a rarely used power is good to have on the books just in case…

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TedStriker  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:18:51pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:19:47pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Sometimes a rarely used power is good to have on the books just in case

Like our own 25th Amendment?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:20:08pm

re: #103 KGxvi

Yeah, but when was the last time Parliament was dissolved by royal prerogative without the advise of the PM?

Probably not since the 17th century, I’d say. Certainly not in anyone’s living memory.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:20:46pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Sometimes a rarely used power is good to have on the books just in case…

Well, this certainly qualifies as an “emergency situation”, that’s for damned sure.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:21:41pm

re: #105 TedStriker

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I think Pat Sajak has already spun that wheel.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:22:13pm

It’s a little late now, isn’t it? I don’t think elections could be held in time to stop what’s going on in Britain.

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TedStriker  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:23:03pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

I think Pat Sajak has already spun that wheel.

Yeah, I know, but I really wanted to whip that “you never go full Chuck Woolery” on him.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:23:09pm

re: #110 Belafon

It’s a little late now, isn’t it? I don’t think elections could be held in time to stop what’s going on in Britain.

That would necessitate an extension of Article 50….the EU would most likely give them that, to be fair.

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Old Liberal  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:23:12pm

re: #105 TedStriker

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Is somebody forcing Sajak to change how he views movies? I don’t understand what his fucking problem is.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:23:43pm

re: #105 TedStriker

Now we have to worry about the politics of casting, the social implications of the film and even the validity of the reviewing process.

As someone who fancies themselves a writer, I’ve always sort of considered those elements of story telling (regardless of the medium, who the characters are and what the story says about society are key elements) to be rather important to the merits of the story.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:25:30pm

re: #113 Old Liberal

Is somebody forcing Sajak to change how he views movies? I don’t understand what his fucking problem is.

I’m guessing “casting non-white people for roles that were originally intended to be non-white characters” and “what this film says about our society” are things that makes him uncomfortable and he’d prefer to go back to movies with good guys in white hats and bad guys in black hats…

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Old Liberal  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:26:02pm

re: #114 KGxvi

As someone who fancies themselves a writer, I’ve always sort of considered those elements of story telling (regardless of the medium, who the characters are and what the story says about society are key elements) to be rather important to the merits of the story.

“You’re forcing me to something something because of your opinion. You ruined all movies for me something something “
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nines09  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:26:39pm

Driving by to drop this off. Beautifully done. Breathe.

Chris Isaak - Wicked Game (Live)

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:28:47pm

re: #116 Old Liberal

“You’re forcing me to something something because of your opinion. You ruined all movies for me something something “
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I mean, I enjoy a good dumb movie that doesn’t make me think - hello Fast and Furious franchise - but the idea that art shouldn’t make you think, at least occasionally, about the world in which we live, is pretty fucking stupid.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:30:07pm

re: #115 KGxvi

I’m guessing “casting non-white people for roles that were originally intended to be non-white characters” and “what this film says about our society” are things that makes him uncomfortable and he’d prefer to go back to movies with good guys in white hats and bad guys in black hats…

That can be a very delicate line to ride on-before Marvel released “Doctor Strange” they had to dodge the issue that one of the main characters who was laid out in the comics as Asian was changed on behest of mainland China.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:30:27pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Will that mean that May will finally go down too? Or does it still remain that there is no one who wants to be in charge when the UK shrinks to England + Wales only?

They want to make sure this debacle gets her name hung on it before anyone else steps to take over.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:31:57pm

So far, we are fortunate to the extent that we have one sane political party led by sane competent leadership (at least until Bernie or Tulsi somehow manage to secure the nomination). Is there any way to replace Cobryn with someone respectable or does the Labour Party no longer have any members who would be acceptable to the general public?

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:31:58pm

re: #118 KGxvi

I mean, I enjoy a good dumb movie that doesn’t make me think - hello Fast and Furious franchise - but the idea that art shouldn’t make you think, at least occasionally, about the world in which we live, is pretty fucking stupid.

Pat doesn’t mind looking at the world he lives in, he just doesn’t want to have to look at anyone else’s world.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:32:47pm

And today, we lost another member of The Wrecking Crew - Hal Blaine.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:33:32pm

re: #118 KGxvi

I mean, I enjoy a good dumb movie that doesn’t make me think - hello Fast and Furious franchise - but the idea that art shouldn’t make you think, at least occasionally, about the world in which we live, is pretty fucking stupid.

I saw the trailer for the F&F offshoot starring Dwayne Johnson and Jason Statham with Idris Elba as the bad guy. Definitely from the first category.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:35:01pm

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want to make sure this debacle gets her name hung on it before anyone volunteers to take over.

And I’d add I’ve seen some wags suggest that when it finally comes down to just Wales and England, the country should be renamed “Wangland”.

Heh.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:36:29pm

re: #119 Eric The Fruit Bat

That can be a very delicate line to ride on-before Marvel released “Doctor Strange” they had to dodge the issue that one of the main characters who was laid out in the comics as Asian was changed on behest of mainland China.

I get that. And in some circumstances the changes don’t really matter (see: Nick Fury); in others they could fundamentally change the story arc. For example, there were a lot of complaints about the casting of the Iron Fist as well. I’m still of the opinion that the real mistake they made was casting someone with no martial arts training, and then being terrible at telling the character’s story (it could have been so good, but I’m not going to rant about it).

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:36:59pm

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want to make sure this debacle gets her name hung on it before anyone volunteers to take over.

That’s really what it is, having a convenient target for all the criticism that is about to be heaped on the party. “Oh, well, we never wanted to crash out of the EU without a deal, but she insisted upon it!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:38:20pm

re: #66 lawhawk

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He knows how the game is played. He is the only winner on Brexit.

and the only winner in the dissolution of NATO

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:39:38pm

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

And I’d add I’ve seen some wags suggest that when it finally comes down to just Wales and England, the country should be renamed “Wangland”.

Heh.

Wangland swings like a pendulum do…

Roger Miller - England Swings (1965)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:40:30pm

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

That would necessitate an extension of Article 50….the EU would most likely give them that, to be fair.

But that would only be until the next EU parliament elections, which Britain has chosen not to be a part of anyways…

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:44:16pm

My understanding is the EU has the final say on any extensions to the deadline and they’ve already made it clear that 2-3 months is unacceptable, they want nothing less than 20+ months because they don’t figure anything constructive will be accomplished in 2-3 months. So even on the effort to save their own asses by kicking the can down the road, the Tories find that the EU wants them to eat shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:45:26pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

I’d say at least 8-12 would be sane enough.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:46:56pm

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But that would only be until the next EU parliament elections, which Britain has chosen not to be a part of anyways…

There are rumors that the Tories are gearing up for EU parliamentary elections. I haven’t heard anything about what Labour or the Liberal Democrats are up to and again, so far, it’s just been making the rounds in the rumor mill.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:48:22pm

From the Dutch PM, Mark Rutte:

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:48:27pm

Oh, and to really make the UK’s position even shittier, there’s been the suggestion that EU members may try to extract concessions from Parliament just to approve an extension. Top of the list? Surrendering ownership of Gibralter to Spain.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:49:31pm

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d say at least 8-12 would be sane enough.

They had since June 2016 to figure this out — and they’ve mishandled all the way. I don’t see how giving them another 8-12 months would resolve anything unless there is a new Parliament with members who hold different views.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:50:07pm

Huh, just saw a headline about a terrible court of appeal nominee moving through the Senate and decided to check to see how many vacant seats there are in the Circuit Courts. I’m counting a total of ten across the country, which seems historically low to me, but I could be wrong. Half are in the 9th Circuit.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:50:22pm

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m thinking either they’ll go the extension route or it’ll end up being “Fuck it, we screwed up and we’re going back on this” with Article 50.

A No-Deal would be widespread political and economic suicide.

But that’s what they voted for dammit, and the people’s will must be carried out! MBGA!!

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:50:25pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

Oh, and to really make the UK’s position even shittier, there’s been the suggestion that EU members may try to extract concessions from Parliament just to approve an extension. Top of the list? Surrendering ownership of Gibralter to Spain.

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

They had since June 2016 to figure this out — and they’ve mishandled all the way. I don’t see how giving them another 8-12 months would resolve anything unless there is a new Parliament with members who hold different views.

Maybe the first demand should be new elections.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:51:08pm

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

They had since June 2016 to figure this out — and they’ve mishandled all the way. I don’t see how giving them another 8-12 months would resolve anything unless there is a new Parliament with members who hold different views.

The Brexit vote, again, was not binding, it was just a request to implement Article 50.

Parliament could revoke it even without a new referendum.

But that would involve losing face and admitting that their game of brinksmanship went all pear-shaped.

They would rather just wreck the economy.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:51:22pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Sometimes a rarely used power is good to have on the books just in case…

Don’t the Lords have any rarely-used powers they could pull out?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:51:56pm

Had to explain history to someone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:53:09pm

re: #141 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Don’t the Lords have any rarely-used powers they could pull out?

Basically, their only power is to block any legislation that comes their way, and they can be overridden on that by the House of Commons.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:53:14pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

Oh, and to really make the UK’s position even shittier, there’s been the suggestion that EU members may try to extract concessions from Parliament just to approve an extension. Top of the list? Surrendering ownership of Gibralter to Spain.

Holy shit. Yeesh - that’d never pass the Parliament.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:54:34pm

re: #138 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

But that’s what they voted for dammit, and the people’s will must be carried out! MBGA!!

Well no, what they voted for was a false promise: All the benefits of EU membership without any of the “drawbacks” (i.e. those “elites” in Brussels telling them who they could and couldn’t kick out). The lie was that Britain was gonna negotiate favorable trade agreements with the individual states of the EU, returning the UK to a state of being an “equal” to continental Europe. The reality is those states told them to take a hike, which means negotiating with Brussels, who weren’t impressed by the empty threats that the EU needed the UK more than they needed the EU.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:54:41pm

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want to make sure this debacle gets her name hung on it before anyone else steps to take over.

Boris would be PM right now if he’d thought this whole mess was going to go well…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:54:45pm

re: #144 Dr Lizardo

Holy shit. Yeesh - that’d never pass the Parliament.

Agreed, but it would send a clear signal to the UK that the EU has them by the balls.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:55:32pm

Business leaders in Britain are decidedly displeased.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:57:20pm

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Business leaders in Britain are decidedly displeased.

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Only commitment the Tories have is to their own political futures. They’re prepared to ride the country into the ground before they’ll admit fault.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 1:57:36pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

Well no, what they voted for was a false promise: All the benefits of EU membership without any of the “drawbacks” (i.e. those “elites” in Brussels telling them who they could and couldn’t kick out). The lie was that Britain was gonna negotiate favorable trade agreements with the individual states of the EU, returning the UK to a state of being an “equal” to continental Europe. The reality is those states told them to take a hike, which means negotiating with Brussels, who weren’t impressed by the empty threats that the EU needed the UK more than they needed the EU.

Yeah, the Brits tried their old “divide and conquer” gambit, and it blew up right in their face.

The days of “Rule Britannia” are long gone…….but it seems like a lot of Brits still haven’t figured that one out.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:01:04pm

Ah the massage lady was getting “Golden Visas” for her pals!

The founder of a chain of massage and spa parlors that snagged Patriots owner Robert Kraft was apparently also hawking a different line of business: investment immigration.

Li “Cindy” Yang, a 45-year old Florida woman, has found herself in the headlines this past week for hobnobbing with some of the country’s most powerful politicians (including Trump) at Mar-a-Lago, and reportedly charging top Chinese execs for access to elected officials at the Palm Beach club.

TPM found that Yang, through a Florida-based company called GY US Investments LLC, was also using proximity to Trump and his properties to peddle so-called investor visas. Under the EB-5 visa program, foreign citizens can get a conditional two-year U.S. green card in exchange for making certain investments. Mother Jones first reported the existence of GY US Investments.

Along with extensive offers of access to Trump and American politicians including Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, Yang’s company also claimed to provide “immigration investment projects,” according to a translation of cached versions of the company’s website. Those services included independent investments and those done via “immigration investment project centers,” according to the now shuttered website.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:04:04pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

The lie was that Britain was gonna negotiate favorable trade agreements with the individual states of the EU, returning the UK to a state of being an “equal” to continental Europe.

Except that individual states in the EU do not make trade deals, that is what the EU is about.

The point was that they would be able to keep foreigners out and I am sure that is what motivated a significant share of Brexit voters just like promises of Building the Wall motivated so many Trump voters.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:09:09pm

Gonna call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:12:59pm

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Except that individual states in the EU do not make trade deals, that is what the EU is about.

The point was that they would be able to keep foreigners out and I am sure that is what motivated a significant share of Brexit voters just like promises of Building the Wall motivated so many Trump voters.

Certainly true for Trump voters. Brexit voters may have had additional incentives — After all Great Britain was the most powerful nation on earth for a couple centuries; many Brits are not willing to acknowledge that they had to surrender absolute sovereignty to compete in the new world.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:13:04pm

re: #28 DodgerFan1988

“We have now imported the third world … and they have not assimilated”

Rush Limbaugh can’t count.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:15:01pm

re: #154 Hecuba’s daughter

Certainly true for Trump voters. Brexit voters may have had additional incentives — After all Great Britain was the most powerful nation on earth for a couple centuries; many Brits are not willing to acknowledge that they had to surrender absolute sovereignty to compete in the new world.

They liked the free exchange of goods and capital, just not the free exchange of people.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:15:56pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Sometimes a rarely used power is good to have on the books just in case…

You mean like impeachment here in America?

What?

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:17:15pm

re: #73 Scottish Dragon

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:17:27pm
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jaunte  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:20:47pm
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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:20:53pm

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

I’m reading Texas v White right now because I never really have before, and I just love this line:

Thus was established the rebel government of Texas.

The discussion about whether states can succeed is also interesting:

It was confirmed and strengthened by the necessities of war, and received definite form and character and sanction from the Articles of Confederation. By these, the Union was solemnly declared to “be perpetual.” And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained “to form a more perfect Union.” It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not?

[snip]

When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.

That last bit is an interesting caveat… revolution or consent.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:22:18pm

re: #159 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

“Employees of Amazon are not allowed to participate in the political process!”

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:23:07pm

re: #160 jaunte

If there is true justice in this world, Don Jr is going to learn something about mandatory community service himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:23:24pm

re: #90 KGxvi

When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die.

and eventually, yes, as the winner, you will also die

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:24:10pm

re: #163 KGxvi

If there is true justice in this world, Don Jr is going to learn something about mandatory community service himself.

I’m all for reinstituting rock-breaking into prison work if the Trump’s get to do it.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:24:56pm

re: #165 Belafon

Stone Mountain > pea gravel

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:25:11pm

re: #159 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Just like all the oil company employees contributing to Beto’s campaign? So let me get this straight: All individual political contributions have to be from unemployed people or they taint the candidate somehow?

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plansbandc  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:26:39pm

re: #167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yes. You’ve got it!

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:27:09pm

re: #167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just like all the oil company employees contributing to Beto’s campaign? So let me get this straight: All individual political contributions have to be from unemployed people or they taint the candidate somehow?

Apparently the only two options are:

1. complete public financing; or,
2. no restrictions on any donations of any kind, because money is speech and corporations are people (my friend)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:28:11pm

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

And in case anyone’s wondering, the Fixed Term Parliaments Act of 2011 removed the Monarch’s power to dissolve the Parliament.

So now, the Queen can’t just say, “Get stuffed” and send them all packing, thereby triggering an election.

that absolutely destroys my vision of Helena Bonham Carter striding through the Parliament pews dressed as Elizabeth II and screaming “off with their heads” a la the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland.

:(

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:29:29pm

re: #169 KGxvi

Apparently the only two options are:

1. complete public financing; or,
2. no restrictions on any donations of any kind, because money is speech and corporations are people (my friend)

Lessee…. Trumpco is people…. Soylent Green is people….

Lea’me alone, I’m thinking here.

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:30:32pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:30:50pm

re: #166 jaunte

Stone Mountain > pea gravel

Hows about you take the the carved Confederate image and blow it off to make pea gravel?

Would that then make pea gravel > than Stone Mountain?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:31:30pm

re: #167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just like all the oil company employees contributing to Beto’s campaign? So let me get this straight: All individual political contributions have to be from unemployed people or they taint the candidate somehow?

Only applies if the candidate is other than Bernie!! Anyone contributing to him is automatically pure as the driven snow.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:31:49pm

re: #172 gocart mozart

is it “I was a telegenic 14-year-old girl when my dad first ran for president”?

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:33:55pm

re: #175 KGxvi

Yes

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Jay C  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:35:28pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

that absolutely destroys my vision of Helena Bonham Carter striding through the Parliament pews dressed as Elizabeth II and screaming “off with their heads” a la the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland.

:(

Maybe it would work better if HBC dressed as Elizabeth I: she wouldn’t have to wear those funny hats….

Found a great quote re Brexit in the comments thread on the BBC site :

Brexit. The undefined negotiated by the unprepared to deliver the unspecified for the uninformed.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:38:22pm

re: #173 ObserverArt

Hows about you take the the carved Confederate image and blow it off to make pea gravel?

[…]

One swing at a time. With one of those big, heavy hammers. Not too heavy, a Trump’s got to lift it.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:39:45pm

re: #178 wrenchwench

One swing at a time. With one of those big, heavy hammers. Not too heavy, a Trump’s got to lift it.

I’m thinking a soft rubber mallet. We wouldn’t want them getting done too early.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:40:22pm

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But that would only be until the next EU parliament elections, which Britain has chosen not to be a part of anyways…

whatever does Nigel Farage plan do then when his EU job disappears with Brexit?
He is the utter definition of delusional that any eventuality in England is his meal ticket post-Brexit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:41:50pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

whatever does Nigel Farage plan do then when his EU job disappears with Brexit?
He is the utter definition of delusional that any eventuality in England is his meal ticket post-Brexit.

Oh Trump loves Farange so it’s only a matter of time before that ass appears again in the US.

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Jay C  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:43:23pm

re: #181 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh Trump loves Farange so it’s only a matter of time before that ass appears again in the US.

The next WH Chief Of Staff?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:46:19pm

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Business leaders in Britain are decidedly displeased.

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A new approach needed. Extend article 50 with a clear plan for progress

Or even better…admit that the entire Brexit campaign was a lie and revoke Article 50.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:47:24pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:49:12pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:49:34pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

Only commitment the Tories have is to their own political futures. They’re prepared to ride the country into the ground before they’ll admit fault.

That sounds like another political party I know…

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:55:12pm

re: #123 Eric The Fruit Bat

And today, we lost another member of The Wrecking Crew - Hal Blaine.

A huge loss to American culture.

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steve_davis  Mar 12, 2019 • 2:58:10pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

When did “chonky” become a word? It makes me laugh every time I see it and I don’t even know why.

I thought chonky was one of those combo words like chortle, meaning fat white person :-)

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steve_davis  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:02:16pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

For anyone who doesn’t know, this is NOT the actor Morgan Freeman.

ah! glad you mentioned that. I was wondering why it didn’t sound like God was speaking in my head.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:06:48pm

re: #187 De Kolta Chair

A huge loss to American culture.

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Hal! You were holding your sticks wrong…

I wonder how many total songs he recorded over his long career? I read The Wrecking Crew book last year. It was a great read. Hal seemed to play a rather large part in how they were done too. Most engineers and producers went with whatever he suggested.

R.I.P. Drummer.

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Jay C  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:07:12pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or even better…admit that the entire Brexit campaign was a lie and revoke Article 50.

A big problem with that: the Brexit “split” in the electorate was pretty much 50/50 (regardless of the referendum results) - so either Leaving or Remaining is basically going to piss off half the people in the country.

Go to the BBC site and scroll down and read the comments: most of the folks motivated to post there seem fairly reasonable: but one train of comment stands out pretty clearly: the Leave people, for the most part, seem to take the June 2016 referendum results (much like Trump-humper extremists over here view his election) as an unassailable Holy Mandate for action: with no review, conditions or second thoughts allowed whatsoever (“Leave means leave!!!!”); and a fairly cavalier disregard of any negative consequences. And that any halt - or even a significant delay - in the exit process is to be violently resisted as a gross Betrayal Of Democracy.

BTW, one area where all the BBC commenters seem to be in near-unanimous agreement is that Parliament, and HM current Government in particular, have proved themselves to be, in general, a pack of useless idiots. Though for different reasons…..

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jimmyvluv4u  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:09:39pm

OK… not the normal music selection for this site, but I’m an extreme metal fan and I laughed my ass off all the way through this. A semi-satirical/semi-serious metal review site has a writer who used a neural network to determine how ‘brvtal’ albums were by their cover art. It gets silly.

Angry Metal Album Art Neural Networks

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:10:54pm

re: #191 Jay C

A big problem with that: the Brexit “split” in the electorate was pretty much 50/50 (regardless of the referendum results) - so either Leaving or Remaining is basically going to piss off half the people in the country.

Go to the BBC site and scroll down and read the comments: most of the folks motivated to post there seem fairly reasonable: but one train of comment stands out pretty clearly: the Leave people, for the most part, seem to take the June 2016 referendum results (much like Trump-humper extremists over here view his election) as an unassailable Holy Mandate for action: with no review, conditions or second thoughts allowed whatsoever (“Leave means leave!!!!”); and a fairly cavalier disregard of any negative consequences. And that any halt - or even a significant delay - in the exit process is to be violently resisted as a gross Betrayal Of Democracy.

BTW, one area where all the BBC commenters seem to be in near-unanimous agreement is that Parliament, and HM current Government in particular, have proved themselves to be, in general, a pack of useless idiots. Though for different reasons…..

none of that addresses the fact that every single “fact” in Brexit campaign was a lie.
Not the least of which was the bullshit about the NHS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:11:26pm

They’re all there to laugh his ass off campus

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:14:25pm

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

They’re all there to laugh his ass off campus

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Is that Michigan U in Ann Arbor?

Give ‘em hell Wolverines.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:15:00pm

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

They’re all there to laugh his ass off campus

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Anyone who ever sees me standing in a line to wait on Ben Shapiro speak has my express permission to punch some sense back into me.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:15:15pm

re: #185 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Let’s just call Trump Co what it is. It’s a criminal enterprise.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:17:03pm

re: #30 Sir John Barron

What’s their measure of “assimilation”, I wonder?

They turn white.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:17:08pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

Let’s just call Trump Co what it is. It’s a criminal enterprise.

The King of Disorganized Crime

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:19:11pm

The Presidency: For Sale.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:19:16pm

It’s funny how the same people that bitch about a black president getting elected or the country being overrun by “the gays” or young women being entering congress and speaking out are the first ones to bitch about folks who “are not assimilating”.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:19:47pm

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

They’re voting on PM May’s Brexit plan in the British Parliament - it’s widely expected to go down in flames.

theguardian.com

Does anyone have any clue what specific proposals could be included in a deal that a Majority of Parliament would vote for? I know they don’t like the Irish Backstop, but I’m clueless as to what alternative would be acceptable. What a shitshow.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:21:47pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s funny how the same people that bitch about a black president getting elected or the country being overrun by “the gays” or young women being entering congress and speaking out are the first ones to bitch about folks who “are not assimilating”.

They don’t want assimilation. They want conformity.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:25:16pm

re: #202 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It strikes me that there is simply no deal that can work.

Thus it’s a hard Brexit, which the Brexiteers are fine with. The brokenness of British politics means that the Brexiteers get what they want and then some.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:25:32pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

They don’t want assimilation. They want conformity.

No, they want people to be quiet and “stay in their place”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:26:46pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, they want people to be quiet and “stay in their place”.

But only CERTAIN people.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:26:53pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

They don’t want assimilation. They want conformity.

They want everyone to defer to white males, preferable Christian. None of this equal opportunity or providing additional services so that the poor have a chance of succeeding.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:26:54pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, they want people to be quiet and “stay in their place”.

True.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:28:53pm

Apparently I’m some kind of aberration because I’m a white male Christian who doesn’t particularly feel discriminated against.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:29:41pm

“Children should be seen and not heard…and so should certain other people…”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:31:58pm

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently I’m some kind of aberration because I’m a white male Christian who doesn’t particularly feel discriminated against.

//

You’re doing it wrong. You’re fine with people who aren’t white male Christians.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:33:53pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, they want people to be quiet and “stay in their place”.

You should hear my Trumpster brother rant about Ilhan Omar: because she emigrated here when she was 11 years old, she should be really grateful for the life she has and she shouldn’t be complaining. After all nothing says that you believe in the Constitution more than wanting to silence American citizens who don’t share your views.

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Jay C  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:34:36pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

none of that addresses the fact that every single “fact” in Brexit campaign was a lie.
Not the least of which was the bullshit about the NHS.

Absolutely.

But the Brexit referendum didn’t pop up out of the blue (ratfucking campaigns by the usual suspects not withstanding): hardcore “Euroskepticism” has a long political history in Britain (England mainly) - and the push for the 2016 vote had been going along for a while. But again, it was still mostly a 50-50 thing: the lies and bullshit in the campaign were pretty reprehensible, but it’s not like (at least IMO) there wasn’t a significant percentage of anti-Euro sentiment already there. Or that it isn’t there now.

That the Government(s) and Parliament haven’t been able to craft a satisfactory Exit deal is, of course, their own fault: but as has been pointed out, given the choice between doing the best thing for the country, or maintaining their own political power and influence, the choice for most politicians is going to be plain. [SPOILER: it isn’t “best for the country”]

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:37:25pm

re: #212 Hecuba’s daughter

You should hear my Trumpster brother rant about Ilhan Omar: because she emigrated here when she was 11 years old, she should be really grateful for the life she has and she shouldn’t be complaining. After all nothing says that you believe in the Constitution more than wanting to silence American citizens who don’t share your views.

Yet I bet he did nothing but complain in the Obama years. She’s an American by choice. We should respect the hell out of people like that rather than scoffing at them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:40:46pm

re: #213 Jay C

Absolutely.
theoir own
But the Brexit referendum didn’t pop up out of the blue (ratfucking campaigns by the usual suspects not withstanding): hardcore “Euroskepticism” has a long political history in Britain (England mainly) - and the push for the 2016 vote had been going along for a while. But again, it was still mostly a 50-50 thing: the lies and bullshit in the campaign were pretty reprehensible, but it’s not like (at least IMO) there wasn’t a significant percentage of anti-Euro sentiment already there. Or that it isn’t there now.

That the Government(s) and Parliament haven’t been able to craft a satisfactory Exit deal is, of course, their own fault: but as has been pointed out, given the choice between doing the best thing for the country, or maintaining their own political power and influence, the choice for most politicians is going to be plain. [SPOILER: it isn’t “best for the country”]

Crafting an acceptable Brexit deal that Brexiteers would like and would benefit the country is an impossible task; there is no solution.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:43:41pm

re: #215 Hecuba’s daughter

Crafting an acceptable Brexit deal that Brexiteers would like and would benefit the country is an impossible task; there is no solution.

Which is I think going to lead to long term political strife and division there:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:47:03pm

You have to kill the immigrants, they’re cockroaches. All those who are listening, rise so we can fight for the America we want. Fight with the weapons you have at your disposal: those who have guns, with guns, those who have knives, with knives. We must all fight.
We must all fight the Mexicans and the Asians and the Muslims. We must finish with them, exterminate them, sweep them from the whole country from sea to shining sea. There must be no refuge for them. They must be exterminated. There is no other way
.”

It reads like it’s been lifted off the Breitbart of Fox News comment section, but this is actually a segment from a radio recording urging the killing of Tutsis during the Rwandan Genocide that I have slightly modified to pertain to todays America.

When we have an “infestation” of MS-13 GANGS in certain parts of our country, who do we send to get them out? ICE! They are tougher and smarter than these rough criminal elelments that bad immigration laws allow into our country.

- President Donald Trump”

There is almost no difference in the rhetoric.

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:58:57pm

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently I’m some kind of aberration because I’m a white male Christian who doesn’t particularly feel discriminated against.

//

That’s because Canadians aren’t real murkins.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:50:46am

re: #159 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Maybe if they had donated in Rubles it would have been ok.


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