The Bob Cesca Podcast: Bubba the Love Sponge

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Bubba The Love Sponge — NSFW; The great Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; The 2020 Democratic convention city has been announced; My tweet about Bernie and the vice presidency; Nancy Pelosi and the impeachment question; Tucker Carlson said horrible things on the radio; Erik Prince totally humiliated on Al Jazeera English; With music by John Flywheel and Jim Cesca; and so much more.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:43:40pm

Andy Serkis’s 2 cents on today’s vote…

LEAKED: Mrs May After Losing The Vote (again)

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Sea Mexican  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:44:37pm

Hey everyone! How are you doing?

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:46:59pm

ABC evening news did a report about blackouts in Venezuela at places like hospitals.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:47:55pm

CL’d on last thread:

You have to kill the immigrants, they’re cockroaches. All those who are listening, rise so we can fight for the America we want. Fight with the weapons you have at your disposal: those who have guns, with guns, those who have knives, with knives. We must all fight.
We must all fight the Mexicans and the Asians and the Muslims. We must finish with them, exterminate them, sweep them from the whole country from sea to shining sea. There must be no refuge for them. They must be exterminated. There is no other way
.”

It reads like it’s been lifted off the Breitbart of Fox News comment section, but this is actually a segment from a radio recording urging the killing of Tutsis during the Rwandan Genocide that I have slightly modified to pertain to todays America.

When we have an “infestation” of MS-13 GANGS in certain parts of our country, who do we send to get them out? ICE! They are tougher and smarter than these rough criminal elelments that bad immigration laws allow into our country.

- President Donald Trump”

There is almost no difference in the rhetoric.

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:51:06pm
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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:54:24pm

re: #5 gocart mozart

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was thinking of how now to set his tie on fire.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:54:36pm

Someone forgot to upload Romneys software update it appears.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:57:02pm

Alternative theory: he has a bad back and can’t bend over.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:59:28pm

re: #8 KGxvi

Alternative theory: he has a bad back and can’t bend over.

Or the stick up his butt goes all the way to his neck and won’t bend.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 3:59:55pm

Spongey funky fake cake filled with sugary useless cream is so Mitt Romney.

Twinkie indeed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:00:11pm

Daisy, Day 6 Update:
In many aspects, she is doing so much better in terms of breathing, temperature, etc.
OTH, she is still not interested in food at all; water only and that rarely spends much time in her stomach before it gets heaved out (even with a prescription anti-nausea drug, she was emptying her stomach within 30 minutes).

So, back to the veterinarian today. Ultrasound showed no obvious masses, temperature was normal, but she is still vomiting and pretty much quiet (and “quiet” is a scary mode for a JRT).

So, since I am unable to keep her hydrated sans vomiting at home (no matter how long I withhold food and water to give her tummy a rest), she has checked into the animal hospital/spa where she will get IV treatments, and lots of TLC from the pretty vet techs (and the handsome ones as well!)

Fingers crossed, the IV hydration will give her gastric system the rest it needs.

This was actual option #2.
The other options were exploratory surgery or taking her to a specialist vet in Lexington for an endoscopy and other invasive tests.

Daisy is 17 years old. I will not subject her to what is in essence torture just to keep her alive for a while longer. Option #2 seems to be our best option to keep her comfortable and hope that it works.

So weird though that she hasn’t had any interest in food for six days, but still weighed in at one pound heavier than she did on Saturday. We wanted to suggest water retention, but that’s kinda hard to do when water makes one throw up.

tis a mystery…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:01:32pm

re: #10 ObserverArt

Spongey funky fake cake filled with sugary useless cream is so Mitt Romney.

Twinkie indeed.

and will survive a thousand years in a landfill and still be as edible as the day it left the factory…

(see what I did there?)

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:03:39pm
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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:05:14pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:06:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:06:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:09:17pm
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:13:14pm

re: #5 gocart mozart

Romney is the Mormon Senator for Mormon people. By default he will be deeply weird.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:14:09pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Big business wants all the benefits of being participants in a global capitalist society but none of the responsibility.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:14:48pm

re: #14 lawhawk

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That sums up his appeal pretty well imo.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:17:49pm

What a different tangent Jimi Hendrix’s career would have taken if instead of “are you experienced?” he had asked “are you combobulated?”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:26:16pm

Apparently I’ve killed the thread. What a different tangent it would have taken if I hadn’t posted about tangents.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:27:58pm

moron is pathetic

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:28:59pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is pathetic

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So, I’m gonna guess state charges are being filed that can’t be undone by pardon?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:30:22pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is pathetic

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:30:35pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Wells Fargo CEO is right, though. They lent the money, but if the company operating the pipeline goes under before the loan is repaid, WF is as screwed as everyone else (well, slightly less, because when the company goes into bankruptcy, WF will be a secured creditor so they’ll get a nickle on the dollar compared to the penny on the dollar everyone else will be lucky to get).

If anything, it’s an argument for high risk ventures to be fully insured and for insurance regulations to be such that the insurance company can’t avoid full coverage.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:30:54pm

re: #24 Barefoot Grin

So, I’m gonna guess state charges are being filed that can’t be undone by pardon?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:33:34pm

If it was “Tacky Shirt Night” at Mar-a-lago, Trump’s sister was the only one who got the memo:

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:34:25pm

re: #28 Barefoot Grin

If it was “Tacky Shirt Night” at Mar-a-lago, Trump’s sister was the only one who got the memo:

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tacky is apparently genetic, but it just manifests in different ways

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:35:00pm

Scott Kyle just followed me on Twitter. I had no idea who he was, looked at his Twitter TL (which I do whenever someone follows, to make sure they’re not a bot or a Trumporrhoid) & then Googled him. Apparently he is a big deal. Don’t know why he would follow li’l ol’ me.

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Sea Mexican  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:35:31pm

I watched Captain Marvel last night. Marvel showed DC how to make a good Superman movie in a movie universe. It was fun to watch, and loved the take on Young Fury and Rookie Coulson.

And Goose. I’m not forgetting about that adorable kitty!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:38:04pm
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gwangung  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:38:55pm

re: #31 Sea Mexican

I watched Captain Marvel last night. Marvel showed DC how to make a good Superman movie in a movie universe. It was fun to watch, and loved the take on Young Fury and Rookie Coulson.

And Goose. I’m not forgetting about that adorable kitty!

Yes. Exactly. I was thinking “Superman” at the climax. And the colors were real close…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:40:16pm
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Sea Mexican  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:48:56pm

re: #33 gwangung

Yes. Exactly. I was thinking “Superman” at the climax. And the colors were real close…

That’s where it clicked to me too.

I kinda wished there was more Rookie Coulson in it, but the amount of scenes were just perfect.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:50:38pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Big business wants all the benefits of being participants in a global capitalist society but none of the responsibility.

Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:51:49pm

re: #36 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Capitalism hates socialism except when it needs socialism to bail out capitalism.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:54:07pm

re: #1 Kilroy was here

You know you’re wrong for that! LOL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:56:10pm

here’s one:

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:57:22pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:57:56pm

By the way, can anyone explain to me how its possible that a Chinese Communist sex trafficker is paying the President $200,000 a year for access to him, his family and high administration officials and is openly selling that access to Chinese executives, and its not the top news story totally dominating the airwaves? If it was Obama, the House would already be drawing up articles of impeachment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:58:09pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

another one:

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Sea Mexican  Mar 12, 2019 • 4:59:31pm

re: #41 NO SMOCKING GUN!

By the way, can anyone explain to me how its possible that a Chinese Communist sex trafficker is paying the President $200,000 a year for access to him, his family and high administration officials and is openly selling that access to Chinese executives, and its not the top news story totally dominating the airwaves? If it was Obama, the House would already be drawing up articles of impeachment.

If anyone floated that rumor without a hint of truth during the Obama WH, it would be on Fox 24/7.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:14:26pm
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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:16:08pm

re: #31 Sea Mexican

I watched Captain Marvel last night. Marvel showed DC how to make a good Superman movie in a movie universe. It was fun to watch, and loved the take on Young Fury and Rookie Coulson.

And Goose. I’m not forgetting about that adorable kitty!

I really liked the young Fury and Coulson but wish they would have had a little more interaction between the two of them. Coulson had such a small part it almost could have been cut without losing much. The other thing is, and maybe it was just me, but the de-aging process on his face really struck me as off. Again, I don’t know if it was me or of they just spent all the time and money on Fury’s face-lift (which was fantastic), but it was just off somehow for me.

Goose was a really fun addition. I really hope he shows up again, maybe in Endgame. Lol, that would be a great end credits scene, a defeated Thanos, sitting on his throne plotting revenge only to get eaten by Goose.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:21:36pm

re: #5 gocart mozart

Lol!

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:23:10pm

Wary of DNA collection?

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:26:51pm

re: #47 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Germ-phobic habits?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:33:09pm

re: #46 Patricia Kayden

Pardon me for saying it that is one of the weirdest thing I have ever seen. Blowing out each candle individually.

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:34:41pm

re: #49 PhillyPretzel

It’s a Mormon thing.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:36:20pm

Back from NYC. Wow Chelsea has changed! Had time for a short visit to a couple of places in the area. So many major buildings going up in Manhattan. The post 9/11 skyscraper architecture is so different. I think you can scan the skyline and easily divide the buildings upon sight as pre and post 9/11.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:36:45pm

re: #50 Skip Intro

Really? Nah.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:40:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:51:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:54:11pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Charles do not hurt yourself over DT. He is not worth it.

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2019 • 5:58:57pm

I just wanna know why airplanes don’t use beautiful clean coal for fuel.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:00:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:01:30pm

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:03:52pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:06:37pm
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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:08:21pm

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

Scott Kyle just followed me on Twitter. I had no idea who he was, looked at his Twitter TL (which I do whenever someone follows, to make sure they’re not a bot or a Trumporrhoid) & then Googled him. Apparently he is a big deal. Don’t know why he would follow li’l ol’ me.

He likes pie?

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:13:24pm

Deplatforming works. What the fuck ever happened to Jacob Wohl?

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:16:09pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Once it got so serious we lost friends and family down that MAGA rabbit hole… So much else got normalized. Because the damn stakes are so high. Would Brexit have even happened if she won? Sure as hell would not have a wall fight or the murder of the Affordable Care Act.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:16:55pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:19:24pm

re: #51 Unshaken Defiance

Back from NYC. Wow Chelsea has changed! Had time for a short visit to a couple of places in the area. So many major buildings going up in Manhattan. The post 9/11 skyscraper architecture is so different. I think you can scan the skyline and easily divide the buildings upon sight as pre and post 9/11.

But everyone is leaving…Donny Trump said so.

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Jay C  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:19:35pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

Deplatforming works. What the fuck ever happened to Jacob Wohl?

He’s been reduced to hanging out with Laura Loomer staging asinine stunts to try to get “media” coverage for his clownish conspiracy-mongering antics.
And basically, only accomplishing the rather astonishing feat of making himself look even stupider than he already has.

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:21:18pm

Two counties in Colorado have passed resolutions declaring themselves Second Amendment Sanctuaries (Weld, and now Douglas) because the Democratic-controlled legislature is debating a new “red-flag” law which would allow law enforcement to confiscate guns for a period of time if one is adjudicated a serious threat to oneself and others.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:23:09pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:23:12pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

I just wanna know why airplanes don’t use beautiful clean coal for fuel.

The boilers take up too much room and ventilation is poor for the crew shoveling the coal into the furnace.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:23:27pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

They give with one hand and take with the other.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:27:57pm

Rachel just reminded Manafort sentencing in DC is tomorrow. I think she said he is in court at 9:30 AM.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:35:49pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:36:52pm

Back from Dr again. Diagnosis pneumonia and ordered off work thru the end of next week…stocking up on more chicken soup.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:38:47pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:40:35pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

Back from Dr again. Diagnosis pneumonia and ordered off work thru the end of next week…stocking up on more chicken soup.

Take care Joe. Nothing to mess with there. Keep hydrated and get lots of rest.

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:41:01pm

McConnell says he has the votes to speed up the Trump court packing process from 30 hours to 2.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:49:09pm

re: #65 ObserverArt

But everyone is leaving…Donny Trump said so.

Everybody’s leaving California and moving to Texas, too…or so I hear.

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plansbandc  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:50:49pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

Take care. That’s nothing to mess with. <3

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 6:54:22pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:04:33pm

re: #77 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

LOL. So Fox says. And yet…

High taxes be damned, the rich keep moving to California

Are rich people fleeing California to escape astronomical state income taxes? That’s the word. But it’s fake news.

In fact, more wealthy people are moving to California than leaving, research indicates. It’s the poor and middle class who are departing.

It makes sense. If you’re getting rich in California and can afford to live comfortably here in this balmy climate, there’s little incentive to leave — except to stick it to the tax collector in Sacramento.

latimes.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:08:34pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

Back from Dr again. Diagnosis pneumonia and ordered off work thru the end of next week…stocking up on more chicken soup.

Consider yourself lucky. My dad has been in the hospital for 1.5 weeks with pneumonia. Take care of yourself!

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:09:31pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

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Two counties in Colorado have passed resolutions declaring themselves Second Amendment Sanctuaries (Weld, and now Douglas) because the Democratic-controlled legislature is debating a new “red-flag” law which would allow law enforcement to confiscate guns for a period of time if one is adjudicated a serious threat to oneself and others.

I’m in a second amendment sanctuary county. [hangs head]

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:10:03pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

I’m in a second amendment sanctuary county. [hangs head]

They do that in New Mexico? Hrm…

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BadgerB  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:10:24pm

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

Scott Kyle just followed me on Twitter. I had no idea who he was, looked at his Twitter TL (which I do whenever someone follows, to make sure they’re not a bot or a Trumporrhoid) & then Googled him. Apparently he is a big deal. Don’t know why he would follow li’l ol’ me.

Because of general awesomeness? (and pie!)

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:13:32pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

They do that in New Mexico? Hrm…

Lotta conservative ranchers and hunters and miners…

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:16:24pm

re: #85 wrenchwench

Lotta conservative ranchers and hunters and miners…

Makes sense. It’s a new thing here in Colorado, because our government has changed quite a bit lately.

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A Three Hour Tour  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:16:49pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

They do that in New Mexico? Hrm…

Yeah. My county commissioners voted to become a “Second Amendment Sanctuary County” several weeks back. There was only one sane commissioner voting against it here.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:18:30pm

re: #80 Unshaken Defiance

LOL. So Fox says. And yet…

High taxes be damned, the rich keep moving to California

latimes.com

I am thinking about moving (back) to California. Besides the climate and scenery, it has some of the coolest residential architecture in the world.

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:21:06pm

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:21:43pm

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I am thinking about moving (back) to California. Besides the climate and scenery, it has some of the coolest residential architecture in the world.

And some of the worse built over-priced houses one can find.

I never cease to marvel at how poorly, and minimally, houses are built here for the prices they demand.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:21:51pm

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:22:27pm

Lawrence O’Donnell is strongly hinting Mitch may not run in 2020. He is going to be doing a piece on a longtime senator that may have just had enough and is not going to run. I didn’t catch it all but he said something about Mitch is looking at Paul Ryan and thinking about that vacation or something.

Interesting, we shall see.

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:22:59pm
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:23:20pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

Mitch can “retire” and make millions as a lobbyist.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:24:32pm

re: #87 A Three Hour Tour

Yeah. My county commissioners voted to become a “Second Amendment Sanctuary County” several weeks back. There was only one sane commissioner voting against it here.

All those Texas-side oil people, they stuck us with Pearce for years. Let’s give ‘em Hobbs and Artesia, and take El Paso.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:24:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:26:57pm

re: #96 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Perhaps Fox News doesn’t need advertisers for its key hosts. Ingraham is still on, after all.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:28:20pm

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I am thinking about moving (back) to California. Besides the climate and scenery, it has some of the coolest residential architecture in the world.

There are a couple of blocks near here that remind me of ’70s Orange County.

/maybe not what you had in mind.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:29:59pm

re: #96 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Rubin is that former Young Turks asshole who went right wing because he’s a miserable bastard.

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Semper Fi  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:30:03pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

Back from Dr again. Diagnosis pneumonia and ordered off work thru the end of next week…stocking up on more chicken soup.

The chicken soup works…most of my friends swear by it. Also, popular in the UK, is the use of a scarf around the neck.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:30:34pm

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

Perhaps Fox News doesn’t need advertisers for its key hosts. Ingraham is still on, after all.

They can just cut a contract to advertise Trump resorts and golf clubs. Then again, they probably know that they’d just get shafted on the bill like he’s done so many times before.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:30:37pm

re: #90 freetoken

And some of the worse built over-priced houses one can find.

I never cease to marvel at how poorly, and minimally, houses are built here for the prices they demand.

Those are everywhere. You got the location though. That’s not everywhere.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:31:21pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:31:32pm

re: #93 gocart mozart

What personal space is he referring to? His twitter feed? Lol.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:33:15pm

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

Perhaps Fox News doesn’t need advertisers for its key hosts. Ingraham is still on, after all.

Maybe Fox News has other funding to keep them going.

Like say, Republican big money donors.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:35:23pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

Wouldn’t surprise me to see an influx of russian investors if they ever did find themselves in financial trouble…

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:35:36pm

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

Perhaps Fox News doesn’t need advertisers for its key hosts. Ingraham is still on, after all.

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EPR-radar  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:36:25pm

re: #90 freetoken

And some of the worse built over-priced houses one can find.

I never cease to marvel at how poorly, and minimally, houses are built here for the prices they demand.

One small part of this problem is the total lack of insulation that means that most people in urban CA pay heating bills in winter that are comparable to what people pay in places with real winters.

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plansbandc  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:36:27pm
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William Lewis  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:37:18pm

A steak pun

Is a rare medium well done.

Dad jokes app. Truly horrible jokes - I love it.

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plansbandc  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:37:30pm

re: #93 gocart mozart

What a complete dipshit.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:40:03pm
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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:47:27pm

re: #112 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:47:49pm

re: #112 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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When will the House subpoena Slumlord Sean?

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:49:41pm

re: #112 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

More seriously though:

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:52:32pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:54:14pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

All those Texas-side oil people, they stuck us with Pearce for years. Let’s give ‘em Hobbs and Artesia, and take El Paso.

I’m in Valencia County, just south of Albuquerque and just barely in Pearce’s old district. I couldn’t stand the man, and, yes, I’d love to give Little Texas to Texas.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:55:23pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:55:52pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2019 • 7:59:34pm

re: #118 Belafon

Yeah, I’d go in for my dogs too. They’re family.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:04:47pm

re: #90 freetoken

And some of the worse built over-priced houses one can find.

I never cease to marvel at how poorly, and minimally, houses are built here for the prices they demand.

I wouldn’t be interested in anything of recent construction, especially not a cookie-cutter mcmansion. There are still some lovingly maintained custom-built homes of various styles from before about 1960. I am partial to Art Deco but not sure I’m partial enough to shell out the bucks for a good one. Still, they exist and I do feel the attraction.
My current home was built in 1908.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:09:08pm

re: #90 freetoken

And some of the worse built over-priced houses one can find.

I never cease to marvel at how poorly, and minimally, houses are built here for the prices they demand.

Tract housing sure but that’s like summing up all music by pop music.
Pasadena Craftsman.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:11:10pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:13:04pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:14:29pm
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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:17:42pm
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retired cynic  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:26:58pm

re: #126 Belafon
I think the opposite is true. There are crimes walking around looking for a prosecutor.

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:27:21pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:27:26pm
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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:28:27pm

re: #109 plansbandc

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I went to school with a Jolene.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:31:37pm

re: #93 gocart mozart

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Snowflake wants you out of his personal space.

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austin_blue  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:37:06pm

re: #121 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wouldn’t be interested in anything of recent construction, especially not a cookie-cutter mcmansion. There are still some lovingly maintained custom-built homes of various styles from before about 1960. I am partial to Art Deco but not sure I’m partial enough to shell out the bucks for a good one. Still, they exist and I do feel the attraction.
My current home was built in 1908.

Mine is 1950. REAL 2x4’s. Pier and beam with big cement castings holding up the piers on solid limestone. 68 years old, flat as a strap. Random-shaped limestone clad, metal roof. Jalousie windows flanking 6’ x 6’ plate glass on the front. Just under 1,200 sq ft in the front, a 2 car garage finished out in the back (1-1) and a 2-1 up front. Nice house. We bought it in ‘97 for $155. Don’t even ask what it’s actually worth, now, but north of $800.

Hence the $1,000+/month property taxes.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:42:41pm
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retired cynic  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:44:20pm

re: #133 Belafon

Or vomiting.

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:53:29pm

A month ago, some good times.

Instagram

Powder beards were in full blossom yesterday…show us yours for a chance to win a Sunlight trucker hat! #tagus #powderbeard #powderday #powderfordays #powder4days #eastridgecharlie #eastridge #steepanddeep #truckerhat #winning

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 8:55:59pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

Actually it was two months ago. Marketing dept. uses photos of me willy nilly.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:05:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:10:32pm

re: #126 Belafon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:14:40pm

“In addition to the top two jobs at the Pentagon, two out of seven undersecretaries of defense and nearly half the assistant secretaries of defense are either acting or temporarily performing the job.”

Not to mention all the Ambassadors we don’t have and the Secretary of Defense we don’t have and the WH Chief of Staff we don’t have. Imagine how screwed we are if a crisis happens.

At what point does the government cease to be functional? And will the GOP even give a shit.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:18:39pm

re: #132 austin_blue

Mine is 1950. REAL 2x4’s. Pier and beam with big cement castings holding up the piers on solid limestone. 68 years old, flat as a strap. Random-shaped limestone clad, metal roof. Jalousie windows flanking 6’ x 6’ plate glass on the front. Just under 1,200 sq ft in the front, a 2 car garage finished out in the back (1-1) and a 2-1 up front. Nice house. We bought it in ‘97 for $155. Don’t even ask what it’s actually worth, now, but north of $800.

Hence the $1,000+/month property taxes.

Sounds great.
Believe it or not, Art Deco and Moderne were actually fairly popular in Lubbock during the 30s and 40s. There are some great examples there that go begging on the market. The reason is that they are now in “bad” neighborhoods, ie too many brownish folk. The yokels therefore prefer newly built housing. New=white. I am convinced that white flight is at least as important as population growth in promoting the endless expanses of shoddy tract houses and ghastly mcmansions. The jokes on them, their gimcrack boxes will be long gone in a hundred years, while yours and mine will probably be standing proudly in their second and third centuries..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:22:10pm

Also, from that same article about Pentagon vacancies:

The former official added that Shanahan’s indecisive style, lack of experience in Washington, and failure to understand the role of Congress may drive some Pentagon officials out the door. Shanahan worked at Boeing for more than 30 years before taking the deputy secretary of defense job in 2017.

“Secretary Mattis was the smartest man in any room, but he sought dissenting opinions and listened more than he talked. By contrast, Shanahan believes he’s an expert on everything and routinely dismisses divergent or contrary views,” said the former official.

No wonder Trump loves this guy so much.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:24:31pm

re: #130 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

I went to school with a Jolene.

I don’t know her personally, but Jolene Blalock. (aka T’Pol from ST: Enterprise)

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:30:23pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sounds great.
Believe it or not, Art Deco and Moderne were actually fairly popular in Lubbock during the 30s and 40s. There are some great examples there that go begging on the market. The reason is that they are now in “bad” neighborhoods, ie too many brownish folk. The yokels therefore prefer newly built housing. New=white. I am convinced that white flight is at least as important as population growth in promoting the endless expanses of shoddy tract houses and ghastly mcmansions. The jokes on them, their gimcrack boxes will be long gone in a hundred years, while yours and mine will probably be standing proudly in their second and third centuries..

The thing that gets me is in Las Vegas, and I think this is probably true in other cities, is that a lot of these areas are taken by Hispanics who are in the trades. I’ve noticed that in those areas, the old houses benefit from their skills and they renovate and fix them up so they are beautiful.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:31:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:39:53pm

re: #144 Belafon

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:40:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:41:34pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, from that same article about Pentagon vacancies:

The former official added that Shanahan’s indecisive style, lack of experience in Washington, and failure to understand the role of Congress may drive some Pentagon officials out the door. Shanahan worked at Boeing for more than 30 years before taking the deputy secretary of defense job in 2017.

“Secretary Mattis was the smartest man in any room, but he sought dissenting opinions and listened more than he talked. By contrast, Shanahan believes he’s an expert on everything and routinely dismisses divergent or contrary views,” said the former official.

No wonder Trump loves this guy so much.

He got rid of Mattis who was competent in favor of a yes man. I still contend he only went with Mattis in the first place since he was wowed by the Mad Dog monicker rather than Mattis’ reality, a nuanced man.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:41:41pm

re: #121 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wouldn’t be interested in anything of recent construction, especially not a cookie-cutter mcmansion. There are still some lovingly maintained custom-built homes of various styles from before about 1960. I am partial to Art Deco but not sure I’m partial enough to shell out the bucks for a good one. Still, they exist and I do feel the attraction.
My current home was built in 1908.

There are plenty of houses in San Diego built just after WWII or before WWII. Even though they tend to be small and on small plots, because they are in the central part of the city they go or over a million.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:42:22pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:42:57pm

I hope they arrest him over this.

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austin_blue  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:44:52pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sounds great.
Believe it or not, Art Deco and Moderne were actually fairly popular in Lubbock during the 30s and 40s. There are some great examples there that go begging on the market. The reason is that they are now in “bad” neighborhoods, ie too many brownish folk. The yokels therefore prefer newly built housing. New=white. I am convinced that white flight is at least as important as population growth in promoting the endless expanses of shoddy tract houses and ghastly mcmansions. The jokes on them, their gimcrack boxes will be long gone in a hundred years, while yours and mine will probably be standing proudly in their second and third centuries..

One can only hope, I guess.

Meanwhile, there is this:

mcmansionhell.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:45:37pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I hope they arrest him over this.

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They should. This is the same guy who thinks Jussie Smollet discredits all hate crime allegations. Hopefully Hennepin County has a nice talk with him.

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austin_blue  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:48:32pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

They should. This is the same guy who thinks Jussie Smollet discredits all hate crime allegations. Hopefully Hennepin County has a nice talk with him.

With metal clamps and a crank telephone.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:55:08pm

re: #151 austin_blue

One can only hope, I guess.

Meanwhile, there is this:

mcmansionhell.com

I’m sorry to see that Colorado Springs is now defaced with sprawling mcmansion zones. That is only natural, though, given the infestation of Fundy grifters there.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 12, 2019 • 9:58:49pm

re: #148 freetoken

My first ex/high school sweetheart lives in San Pedro in a house that was built 100+ years ago. It has a little addition. There is no insulation and lots of cracks to see outside. The foundation is crooked and tilted. The view of the harbor is spectacular! And it’s on a piece of land that would cost a shit-ton of money. I would so love to help him buy it and build a wonderful home on it, but that’s probably not in either one of our leagues on our salaries.

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Jason Munro  Mar 12, 2019 • 10:08:31pm

re: #153 austin_blue

IIRC this is the same kid who created an obviously fake intelligence company to smear Mueller with an unbelievably stupid scam. If he finally has to face some consequences (aside from being banned from equities trading for life) that would be great. Not holding my breath.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 12, 2019 • 10:10:30pm

re: #155 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

View:

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austin_blue  Mar 12, 2019 • 10:14:55pm

re: #157 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

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You know, those container box cranes always me remind of these toys we had as kids:

en.wikipedia.org

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austin_blue  Mar 12, 2019 • 10:19:08pm

And I’m off to bed. My wife is back from Arkysaw and we can spoon for the first time in over a week. She’s better sleeping company than the cat, but I would never say that to the cat.

A canoodle is a wonderful thing.

Night all, sweet dreams.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 12, 2019 • 10:24:01pm

re: #158 austin_blue

You know, those container box cranes always me remind of these toys we had as kids:

en.wikipedia.org

LOL. So true. I wish I had the photo he shared with me with a container ship that came in with a bunch of the containers tipped over. It looked like that was going to be a mess to deal with.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 12, 2019 • 10:37:31pm

Restaurant review app seeks to help conservatives find safe spaces

A new app seeks to find safe restaurants and businesses for conservatives.

The app is called 63red Safe. It’s made by 63red, which is a group that creates websites, apps and other digital tools specifically for conservatives who support President Donald Trump.

The 63red Safe app’s tagline says it is “keeping conservatives safe.” The app uses “yes” or “no” questions to allow users to rate restaurants and businesses on how they treat conservatives.

Despite this political focus, the app’s creator said it is designed to get politics out of local businesses

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TedStriker  Mar 12, 2019 • 10:41:50pm

re: #161 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Restaurant review app seeks to help conservatives find safe spaces

Funny you should mention that, because it’s already a dumpster fire full of security holes:

Ars Technica: “Yelp, but for MAGA” turns red over security disclosure, threatens researcher

I’ve been commenting in that thread all night; my first post in the thread, replying to someone saying “Shouldn’t it be concerning that someone feels a need to create such an app? I’m baffled by businesses that think it’s fair to refuse service to someone because they where the same hat as the President of the United States’:

The difference between American “liberal” and “conservative” businesses: “liberal” business owners typically want to serve all comers without either overt or covert discrimination, provided said patrons aren’t acting like assholes. “Conservative” business owners, OTOH, seem to have no problems discriminating against potential customers who aren’t “of the body”, those who aren’t like themselves (see the Colorado cake shop case for a prime example), and have no qualms about perverting the power of the state to enforce it.

Frankly, “liberal” business owners seem to be more capitalistic than the “conservatives” who supposedly champion small business to the point of fetishizing.

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teleskiguy  Mar 12, 2019 • 10:58:42pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:22:23pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 12, 2019 • 11:28:52pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 12:09:59am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

AOC:

This, right here, is a problem.

Institutions can engage in unlimited financing of fossil fuels, building unstable pipelines + reaping profits, but when the bill comes to clean up oil spills & fix damages - they can conveniently kick the can.

So, who will pay for climate change?

If we want a Free Market to function, we mus assure that the price of a commodity reflects its actual costs.

The problem with fossil fuels (and plastics) is that the health, environmental & clean-up costs are conveniently socialized.

See?

Socialism is the problem.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 12:21:47am

re: #41 NO SMOCKING GUN!

By the way, can anyone explain to me how its possible that a Chinese Communist sex trafficker is paying the President $200,000 a year for access to him, his family and high administration officials and is openly selling that access to Chinese executives, and its not the top news story totally dominating the airwaves? If it was Obama, the House would already be drawing up articles of impeachment.

I gave up on “What if Obama had….?” ages ago, when the GOP nominated a man with five children from three different marriages.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 12:26:07am

re: #82 wrenchwench

I’m in a second amendment sanctuary county. [hangs head]

Sanctuary from the the first clause of the 2nd Amendment (about the well regulated militia)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 12:39:07am

re: #46 Patricia Kayden

This is the most bizarre technique for blowing out birthday candles that I’ve ever witnessed. Mitt Romney is a deeply weird dude.

Could this have something to do with it?

Blowing Out Birthday Candles Increases Cake Bacteria by 1,400 Percent

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 12:48:36am
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 12:55:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 12:58:44am

re: #170 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Was at meeting with 6 CEOs of major energy utilities. They have been & will continue to replace coal power plants. Why? Math. Not only is coal dirty, it’s too expensive.

All we have to do is get rid of pesky government environmental, health & safety regulations and jobs will come roaring back.

Well paid jobs, without the need of unions, either!!!

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 1:55:19am

One of the better Youtube astro channels is Deep Sky Videos, from the U. of Nottingham. They have a series on Messier objects that is worth the time.

Anyway, 4 years ago or so one of the professors (the best one IMO) wanted to discuss car accidents in conjunction with discussing M9:

M9 - Why Virgos have more car crashes - Deep Sky Videos

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 1:56:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 1:59:52am

re: #173 freetoken

One of the better Youtube astro channels is Deep Sky Videos, from the U. of Nottingham. They have a series on Messier objects that is worth the time.

Anyway, 4 years ago or so one of the professors (the best one IMO) wanted to discuss car accidents in conjunction with discussing M9:

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Video

I can cope with Astrology as long as they do not talk of causality: things are going this way because Mercury is in retrograde, etc., but simply that there is some connection: things tend to go a certain way when Mercury is in retrograde.

I do not at all follow horoscopes and predictions at all, at most I turn to them when I have exhausted all other possibilities of resolving a situation and still seek some sort of advice.

But I must admit that when it comes to defining and assigning personality types to star signs, I am textbook Aries.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 2:02:36am

re: #174 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

5/ The idea that there’s a groundswell of “impeach tomorrow” folks in the Democratic Party is a farce—a media creation that allows 100 stories of internal turmoil in the Democratic Party to be written. A handful of House members who want Articles today does *not* a movement make.

There is a fixation on two topics:

“Democrats in turmoil over…” to which they blow up any discussion within the party into a dispute,

and

“Democrats veer hard left”, for which they currently have AOC, who wants to confiscate rich people’s money to turn America into a Socialist Green Hellhole and take away our airline flights and our hamburgers and make us live in lean-tos and wipe our butts with dried leaves…

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 2:22:47am

There is a high probability that alcohol was involved.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 3:16:43am

re: #177 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Two injured after Russian modern Pantsir missile system crash in Vladivostok

There is a high probability that alcohol was involved.

Ivan: The bridge up ahead says 3.30 m clearance but we are 3.5 meters high!

Vlad: Don’t worry, There aren’t any policemen about!

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nowherenorth2  Mar 13, 2019 • 4:03:16am

re: #126 Belafon

What the hell are they not getting?

Also. There is a proposal to split new York state from new York City. Does lawhawk have a thought on this? I know plenty up here is northern NY who think this is great but they are also hardcore trump supporters and think that the Confederate flag is states rights..

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 13, 2019 • 4:26:37am

re: #179 nowherenorth2

What the hell are they not getting?

Also. There is a proposal to split new York state from new York City. Does lawhawk have a thought on this? I know plenty up here is northern NY who think this is great but they are also hardcore trump supporters and think that the Confederate flag is states rights..

That was an idea way back in the 1970s, but then it was the City wanting to split off from the State. Left standing around scratching its head was Long Island (Nassau and Suffolk Counties), which would have been separated from the rest of the State or forced to become part of the NYC.

It was a dumb idea then, and it’s a dumb idea now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:03:36am

re: #180 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

That was an idea way back in the 1970s, but then it was the City wanting to split off from the State. Left standing around scratching its head was Long Island (Nassau and Suffolk Counties), which would have been separated from the rest of the State or forced to become part of the NYC.

It was a dumb idea then, and it’s a dumb idea now.

as was the CSA

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:07:03am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

as was the CSA

Tru dat

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:10:54am

Biff is awake and upset.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:18:41am

re: #183 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Biff is awake and upset.

I assume that was a lead story on Fox

Stone Cold Killers

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:22:50am

re: #161 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The 63red Safe app’s tagline says it is “keeping conservatives safe.” The app uses “yes” or “no” questions to allow users to rate restaurants and businesses on how they treat conservatives.

The only way a restaurant (a decidedly non-political business) would know the politics of a patron is if said patron was broadcasting it in some manner. Oh, is this for obnoxious people wear MAGAt hats or ‘fuck your feelings’ shirts? “Yes, I’m a conservative asshole and the restaurant didn’t put up with my vocal fee-fees.”

But, safe spaces are for da libtards…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:25:44am

re: #185 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The only way a restaurant (a decidedly non-political business) would know the politics of a patron is if said patron was broadcasting it in some manner

That aspect of it gets played down. Public displays of obnoxiousness are a good way to get ejected from restaurants and bars.

This is a different case for politicians and public figures, but those are folks who have actively made their views known to anyone who watches the news or follows them on the Internet

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:29:23am

re: #180 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

That was an idea way back in the 1970s, but then it was the City wanting to split off from the State. Left standing around scratching its head was Long Island (Nassau and Suffolk Counties), which would have been separated from the rest of the State or forced to become part of the NYC.

It was a dumb idea then, and it’s a dumb idea now.

One of the (extremely) few things I could applaud Rudy Giuliani doing during his mayoralty was his response to one of the periodic “secession” flaps ginned up by some local bozos on Staten Island. IIRC, he held a presser where he said he’d be fine with that Borough seceding, providing:
1. There was a fair referendum.
2. The newly “independent” Richmond County properly reimbursed NYC for the century or so of investments in infrastructure and services it had made on SI. He had had the Finance Dept run up some preliminary estimates: they ran into eight figures, as I recall - “secession” talk died down pretty quickly after that….

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:29:35am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Could this have something to do with it?

Blowing Out Birthday Candles Increases Cake Bacteria by 1,400 Percent

So, you’ve done an increase of 2 orders of magnitude of a group of bacteria that are harmless. Whip-de-shit. It’s the same math that makes people think that eliminating 99.9% (three orders of magnitude) of bacteria on a surface means something; hint, it does not. Calculus changes if person is sick.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:34:49am

re: #188 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So, you’ve done an increase of 2 orders of magnitude of a group of bacteria that are harmless. Whip-de-shit. It’s the same math that makes people think that eliminating 99.9% (three orders of magnitude) of bacteria on a surface means something; hint, it does not. Calculus changes if person is sick.

The bacteria involved are ones that the vast majority of people already have immunity against, because those bacteria live in every human being.

Killing that 99.9% just leaves the 0.1% that can really ruin your day, because those are the ones that are resistant to being killed off.

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nowherenorth2  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:36:48am

re: #180 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

That was an idea way back in the 1970s, but then it was the City wanting to split off from the State. Left standing around scratching its head was Long Island (Nassau and Suffolk Counties), which would have been separated from the rest of the State or forced to become part of the NYC.

It was a dumb idea then, and it’s a dumb idea now.

I agree. I have heard about it before. The idea this time would be three parts: the city, mantauk (Long island) and new Amsterdam ( the rest of the state). Up here in St. Lawrence county, the idea is old. It also includes seccesional ideas of Canada for extreme views and jokes and the seccesion of the akwasasne mohawk reservation and their sovereignty.

I understand that alot of the southern part of the state carries a lot of weight, but the people here think Cuomo is the “emperor” and that there is nothing to be gained from the southern part of the state.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:42:19am

Morning all. Well Windows did its automatic update and rebooted whilst I was asleep. No big problem there in and of itself. The problem I ran into this morning was when I tried to login to LGF. I use the two factor method and had to try 5 times to login. The first authentication code sent was invalid, probably because its time expired, the second worked and let me finish logging in. Now in the last 20 minutes I have received 3 more authentications codes. Anybody else ever experience anything like this?

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:43:45am

re: #183 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Biff is awake and upset.

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When is Biff not awake and upset? That’s default mode.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:45:58am
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sagehen  Mar 13, 2019 • 5:45:59am

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I hope they arrest him over this.

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He should get the same charges as Jussie Smollett.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:00:54am

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Sounds like Wohl should get the Smollett treatment… and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:06:00am

re: #195 lawhawk

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Sounds like Wohl should get the Smollett treatment… and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Why? Was he trying to make homophobic bigots look bad?

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:07:08am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The analogy is that Smollett filed false police reports and lied to investigators. Wohl is doing the same thing.

The subject matter of the claims is different, but the outcome should be the same -

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:07:44am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why? Was he trying to make homophobic bigots look bad?

So close to downdinging this one. You know the reason.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:08:43am

re: #197 lawhawk

The analogy is that Smollett filed false police reports and lied to investigators. Wohl is doing the same thing.

The subject matter of the claims is different, but the outcome should be the same -

really, what an idealist…

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:10:04am

re: #198 Belafon

So close to downdinging this one. You know the reason.

I am being sarcastic…Smollett is going to get more than he deserves because they have to make an example of him…Wohl is going to get Manaforted.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:17:00am

re: #193 Belafon

Parents of a certain social class go out of their way to protect their kids from the vicissitudes of everyday life. Believe me, I had some experience with this type of parent after years of working in a private high school. Some just do not want their kid to fail, even when the kid deserves it. There were several times when I had to painstakingly go through Johnny or Janey’s grades to show the parental units exactly why their little darling got less than their usual A, or in fact fucked up the grading period big time.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:17:11am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am being sarcastic…Smollett is going to get more than he deserves because they have to make an example of him…Wohl is going to get Manaforted.

OK. Missed the sarc.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:17:45am
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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:18:23am

Just got back from my yearly physical, and, surprise surprise I am Vitamin D deficient! Damn winter time. My doctor informed me that there is a push to lower colonoscopy screening age to 45. I’m gonna hold out for 50, I got this.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:23:01am
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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:24:30am

Something I did not know about vitamin D and Multiple Sclerosis.

Geographic area and Vitamin D

-MS is known to occur more frequently in areas that are farther from the equator

-People born in an area with a high risk of MS who then move to an area with a lower risk before the age of 15 assume the risk of their new area. This suggest that exposure to some environmental agent before puberty may predispose a person to develop MS later on

-Low vitamin D levels in the blood have been identified as a risk factor for the development of MS

-People who live closer to the equator are exposed to greater amounts of sunlight year-round. As a result, they tend to have higher levels of naturally-produced Vitamin D, which is thought to support immune function and may help protect against immune-mediated diseases like MS

azfamily.com

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:25:48am

Another interesting point of this, that should make the private schools frightened a bit, is that it’s really only the admissions that are tough. Once you’re in, that school really isn’t any more challenging than any other school.

Now, my first attempt at college was a WPI, and I will tell you it was tough. I burnt out is the reason I didn’t finish; being the first person in my family to go to college, and coming from a barely middle class family, I didn’t have the money or the knowledge to properly give myself breaks to survive. So, not every school falls under this, but I doubt WPI is accepting too many children of actors who don’t show an interest in engineering.

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jeffreyw  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:32:06am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:33:09am

re: #208 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Who’s on first?

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:33:37am

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

The pro life GOP is demanding that California carry out executions. Trump called for the execution of the Central Park 5 after DNA evidence exonerated them.

Trump’s doing everything he can to deflect from his criminal misconduct.

Oh, and this retort to the fetal heartbeat bills currently making the rounds in right wing extremist circles has me laughing because it would be the very kind of invasive and controlling acts that they seek to impose on women.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:37:43am

re: #208 jeffreyw

Bloods v. Crips eh?

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:39:24am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

I got a physical last year and the doc also prescribed Vitamin D. I think it’s the combination of being inside too much and wearing sunscreen/hats when I am outside because I can turn into a crispy critter if I’m out for too long.

Interesting about the vitamin D- MS connection.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:42:51am

Manafort’s going to be finding out the balance of his federal sentence this morning…

Judge Jackson isn’t Judge Ellis. She’s not taking any crap from him or accepting anything he says (Manafort lied to investigators and didn’t cooperate per their deal).

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:43:28am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:43:55am

re: #183 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Biff is awake and upset.

Fox and Fiends must be on.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:45:38am

I think I have a new favorite twitter feed.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:47:39am

Ok, this is just getting weird. Either the two factor authentication system is screwing up or someone has gotten hold of my LGF password and is trying to login in as me. Two more verification codes just received in the last two minutes. Charles can you look into this please?

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darthstar  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:49:07am
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darthstar  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:54:26am

In light of the college entrance scandal, I give you Thurston Howell III

Heavens a Yale Man! SD

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:56:14am

re: #208 jeffreyw

Segregation…. possibly self-enforced.

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2019 • 6:59:23am

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned before, but I found this bit of info in today’s NYT piece on the 737 safety flap.

For decades, the F.A.A. has used a network of outside experts, known as F.A.A. designees, to certify that aircraft meet safety standards. In 2005, the regulator shifted its approach for how it delegated authority outside the agency, creating a new program through which aircraft manufacturers like Boeing could choose their own employees to be the designees and help certify their planes.

The program is intended to help the F.A.A. stretch its limited resources, while also benefiting plane makers who are eager to avoid delays in the certification process.

The regulator maintains offices inside Boeing’s factories, including those in Renton, Wash., and in Charleston, S.C. “I’ve raised this concern in the past, about people who go to work at the Boeing plant who work for the F.A.A.,” said Representative Peter A. DeFazio, Democrat of Oregon and the chairman of the House transportation committee. “How much scrutiny are they applying, and could they be influenced?”

The F.A.A.’s top safety official, Ali Bahrami, has worked closely with Boeing during his career, directing the agency’s certification of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner and the 747-8 passenger and freighter models.

So basically airliner manufacturers - which I gather nowadays means just Boeing - are basically self-inspecting and self-certifying their own products. And the Government (staffed in large part by ex-Boeing people) are just taking their word for it on regulatory issues.

It may not mean much - after all, no one’s interests are served by having planes fall out of the sky, but I’m sure it’s a contributing factor to the current mess.

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steve_davis  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:00:46am

re: #5 gocart mozart

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I’m betting it’s somebody who grew up in a germophobe household and got trained not to blow across the entire top of the cake so that the cake doesn’t become a reservoir of germs and spit from the violent blowing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:10:06am

WUT

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:14:38am

re: #223 The Vicious Babushka

WUT

What’s in the picture?

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:15:35am

re: #224 Belafon

A bunch of chickens in France killed a fox that got into the henhouse. Herd instinct made the chickens peck the fox to death.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:17:02am

re: #224 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

a parable for our times

Chickens ‘gang up’ to kill intruder fox on French farm

MSJ beat me to the answer but I included a link

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:17:45am

re: #204 Shropshire Slasher

Just got back from my yearly physical, and, surprise surprise I am Vitamin D deficient! Damn winter time. My doctor informed me that there is a push to lower colonoscopy screening age to 45. I’m gonna hold out for 50, I got this.

Almost everyone is vitamin D deficient, and everyone should get their vitamin D level checked. I have to take supplements to stay in the sweet spot.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:17:46am

re: #224 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

Link

Chickens in a poultry farm in northwest France are suspected of killing a fox that tried to sneak into their coop.

The fox is thought to have entered the henhouse at an agricultural school at dusk last week and become trapped inside by light-controlled automatic hatch doors that close when the sun goes down.

Students at Le Gros Chêne school in Brittany discovered the fox’s body the following morning when making their rounds to check on the chickens.

“There, in the corner, we found this dead fox,” Pascal Daniel, the head of farming at the school, told AFP. “There was a herd instinct and they attacked him with their beaks.”

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:19:04am
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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:19:36am

I just had a thought, and it raises a question:

Upon reading LGF every day, I’m wondering what each Lizard’s ‘trademark quote’ would be. I’m thinking mine would probably be ‘Womp womp (motherfucker),’ and Belafon’s would be ‘What’s in the picture?’ :)

What’s yours?

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steve_davis  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:20:35am

re: #120 Patricia Kayden

Yeah, I’d go in for my dogs too. They’re family.

I would go in for a dog. The dog would go in for me. My cat would already be in my lockbox, looking for the access code to my broker account.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:21:13am

re: #230 makeitstop

I just had a thought, and it raises a question:

Upon reading LGF every day, I’m wondering what each Lizard’s ‘trademark quote’ would be. I’m thinking mine would probably be ‘Womp womp (motherfucker),’ and Belafon’s would be ‘What’s in the picture?’ :)

What’s yours?

“(nickname for Trump) is awake and is upset/has a sad/is panicking”

(not my quote, but one I see most every day here)

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:21:22am

re: #230 makeitstop

Greets and saluts….

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jeffreyw  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:21:38am

re: #209 Belafon

Who’s on first?

No, Who’s on second.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:23:20am

re: #230 makeitstop

I just had a thought, and it raises a question:

Upon reading LGF every day, I’m wondering what each Lizard’s ‘trademark quote’ would be. I’m thinking mine would probably be ‘Womp womp (motherfucker),’ and Belafon’s would be ‘What’s in the picture?’ :)

What’s yours?

Look at this pie!

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:23:42am

So, I asked for some computer advice the other night. My biggest concern was with some video issues but a co-worker gave me a 19” Acer monitor that my Vostro can push at 1440x990. Since even if the cable to the screen does give out I can still use the external video, I’m ok with keeping this machine short term. So I’ve decided that instead of replacing my Dell Vostro 3458 14” (Celeron 3205u) with a Dell Latitude E6410 14” (either i5-520m or slightly better i7-620m), the newer Vostro can be bumped up to 16 gb. of RAM for less than the used computer.

So free screen & cheaper RAM, we’ll see if it helps performance. I’ll wait on a CPU bump till I can afford a slightly bigger bump.

Thanks for the information!

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:23:55am

VW is going after the EV market. Trying to undercut Tesla imho.

The goal is to build 22 million battery electric vehicles, or BEVs, over the next decade, up from a previous target of 15 million, he said. The move is widely expected to put a strain on the German automaker’s bottom line. Profit margins on electrified vehicles are significantly below conventionally powered products with many all-electric models sold at a loss, according to industry analysts.

and

While specific details haven’t been released, the automaker has broadly hinted that it will target the low end of the market. Juergen Stackmann, VW’s board member overseeing sales, said it will be priced between $24,000 to $32,000, depending upon the size of its battery pack. The cheapest version will provide 206 miles of range.

I’m holding out for the diesel electric…

cnbc.com

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:24:03am

re: #230 makeitstop

I just had a thought, and it raises a question:

Upon reading LGF every day, I’m wondering what each Lizard’s ‘trademark quote’ would be. I’m thinking mine would probably be ‘Womp womp (motherfucker),’ and Belafon’s would be ‘What’s in the picture?’ :)

What’s yours?

Fucking fuckity fuck.

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jeffreyw  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:24:08am

re: #211 lawhawk

Bloods v. Crips eh?

Toronto v St Louis in an off season exhibition game.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:25:38am

It quit raining…….
I’m going fishing. It’s CrappieTyme in Texas!

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:25:50am

re: #230 makeitstop

I just had a thought, and it raises a question:

Upon reading LGF every day, I’m wondering what each Lizard’s ‘trademark quote’ would be. I’m thinking mine would probably be ‘Womp womp (motherfucker),’ and Belafon’s would be ‘What’s in the picture?’ :)

What’s yours?

I don’t have one, but the sometimes funny/sometimes jarring experience of reading Happy Warrior reply directly to the people in a quote or article still sometimes takes me by surprise until I realize he’s not responding to the LGFer.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:26:01am

re: #230 makeitstop

I just had a thought, and it raises a question:

Upon reading LGF every day, I’m wondering what each Lizard’s ‘trademark quote’ would be. I’m thinking mine would probably be ‘Womp womp (motherfucker),’ and Belafon’s would be ‘What’s in the picture?’ :)

What’s yours?

It’s funny that you mention that, because one of the things I find interesting is that I can tell a HappyWarrior comment without even looking at the name. His just follow a certain rhythm and word usage and they probably map to the way I think.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:26:34am

re: #237 Shropshire Slasher

VW is going after the EV market. Trying to undercut Tesla imho.

and

I’m holding out for the diesel electric…

cnbc.com

VW got badly hit by the diesel scandal and further by initiatives by many German cities to ban diesels.

It helps that Germany is a much more densely populated and has a government highly committed to revamping its traffic and energy infrastructure.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:27:44am

re: #235 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this pie!

Your runner-ups: WUT? or WTFITS??? :)

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:28:27am

re: #242 Belafon

It’s funny that you mention that, because one of the things I find interesting is that I can tell a HappyWarrior comment without even looking at the name. His just follow a certain rhythm and word usage and they probably map to the way I think.

Me too!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:29:47am

Miss seeing our friend Anymouse, he has gone into Lurking ever since a big flounce some weeks back

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:30:12am

Charles’ would probably be LOLWUT (especially when referring to wingnut tweets).

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darthstar  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:31:27am

Time to walk the dogs then drive up north to pick up the bacon from my half hog.
Play nice, everyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:32:26am

re: #248 darthstar

Time to walk the dogs then drive up north to pick up the bacon from my half hog.
Play nice, everyone.

say hello to the remaining half for us!

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:35:00am

jeffreyw: ‘Good morning! :)’

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:37:07am

Morning!

Is Manafort in jail with a long sentence yet?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:37:21am

re: #244 makeitstop

Your runner-ups: WUT? or WTFITS??? :)

Also: JFC

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:39:46am
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Teukka  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:41:50am

re: #230 makeitstop

I just had a thought, and it raises a question:

Upon reading LGF every day, I’m wondering what each Lizard’s ‘trademark quote’ would be. I’m thinking mine would probably be ‘Womp womp (motherfucker),’ and Belafon’s would be ‘What’s in the picture?’ :)

What’s yours?

For me, “Jesus Hello Kitty Christ on a rocket-powered toboggan, (are|is) (you|s?he) friggin’ serious!?” is a strong contender.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:41:56am
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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:43:34am
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:45:10am

re: #255 MsJ

Maybe, if your client wanted to keep undermining governments in other countries for the benefit of Russia, he should have stayed out of US politics. He just thought he could take on the big one.

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Teukka  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:45:11am

re: #254 Teukka

For me, “Jesus Hello Kitty Christ on a rocket-powered toboggan, (are|is) (you|s?he) friggin’ serious!?” is a strong contender.

With obligatory hat tip to Marc J. Randazza (@marcorandazza) .

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:48:38am

re: #257 Belafon

Maybe, if your client wanted to keep undermining governments in other countries for the benefit of Russia, he should have stayed out of US politics. He just thought he could take on the big one.

He was tired of leading a blameless life and wanted to see what it was like to be a bad boy for once.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:51:33am
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:51:39am

re: #256 makeitstop

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Ha. Close to what I predicted: that Trump would thank Nancy. He is so easy to play and to predict.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:53:23am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Something I did not know about vitamin D and Multiple Sclerosis.

azfamily.com

I got diagnosed with low VitD a few years back, and have been taking (prescribed) lots of it. Have finally got my level near normal. It doesn’t happen overnight! It was prescribed for me for osteoporosis in my hip joints, but if I had known there was a correlation with MS, Wow. I would have been a lot more intense about it!

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:54:42am

Alas, I will be in a meeting. Keep me posted, lizards!

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:56:23am

re: #261 ObserverArt

Ha. Close to what I predicted: that Trump would thank Nancy. He is so easy to play and to predict.

Yep. And Pelosi knew he’d do that. Too easy.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 13, 2019 • 7:56:57am

re: #230 makeitstop

General news:

“Oh, fuck, what happened now?”

Or, for economy/market news:

“WHEEE!”

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:09:59am
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Jay C  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:10:52am

h/t rikyrah at Balloon Juice:

Trump admin assurances on plane’s safety ring hollow abroad

Rachel Maddow reports on worldwide concerns about potential safety problems with the Boeing 737 MAX 8 and why perceptions of Donald Trump as compromised by poor judgment and susceptibility to manipulation have undermined the authority of the FAA and isolated the United States.

Making America Non-Credible Again!!
Winning!!

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:13:03am

re: #267 Jay C

I was thinking about that the other day. When almost any plane crashes, the NTSB is called out, no matter what the country. Is that changing under Trump?

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:14:59am

re: #268 Belafon

I was thinking about that the other day. When almost any plane crashes, the NTSB is called out, no matter what the country. Is that changing under Trump?

If the plane is American-made, then the NTSB may be invited to join the investigation. Sometimes it could help lead due to expertise and lack of same in the country where the crash occurred or the operator of the airline.

The builder of the airline will also participate in the investigation.

Under Trump we have a vacancy at the head of the FAA, and interim leadership positions from the top down. He’s undermining public safety.

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gwangung  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:16:40am

dallasnews.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:17:12am

re: #269 lawhawk

Under Trump we have a vacancy at the head of the FAA, and interim leadership positions from the top down. He’s undermining public safety.

He insists he is saving money by eliminating useless government jobs…

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:17:32am

re: #269 lawhawk

If the plane is American-made, then the NTSB may be invited to join the investigation. Sometimes it could help lead due to expertise and lack of same in the country where the crash occurred or the operator of the airline.

The builder of the airline will also participate in the investigation.

Under Trump we have a vacancy at the head of the FAA, and interim leadership positions from the top down. He’s undermining public safety.

I think the NTSB is already involved. Boeing too. They went the next day after the crash.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:18:28am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He insists he is saving money by eliminating useless government jobs…

Let’s eliminate a useless president Trump.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:22:34am

re: #270 gwangung

dallasnews.com

How did the shutdown affect Boeing’s ability to do the patch? I’m saving the article for later.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:23:41am

re: #270 gwangung

dallasnews.com

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Holy fucking fuck. Trump effectively killed everyone on that plane. Son of a bitch.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:26:23am

weeeeee

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:26:58am

re: #274 Belafon

How did the shutdown affect Boeing’s ability to do the patch? I’m saving the article for later.

The linked piece actually doesn;t say, but I’m guessing it may have something to do with Boeing having to submit their fix to the FAA for implementation? The FAA that may have been closed/curtailed due to the shutdown ???

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:28:45am

re: #276 MsJ

Manafort was a plant

And whoever posted this nonsense appears to be a vegetable. So it all fits….

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:29:47am

re: #278 Jay C

And whoever posted believes this nonsense appears to be a vegetable. So it all fits….

A little closer to it…

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:29:59am

Didn’t somebody ask about Jacob Wohl?

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:30:50am

Not sounding good for Manafort.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:32:27am
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:32:56am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:33:58am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:36:00am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:36:48am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:37:17am

re: #281 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Not sounding good for Manafort.

So this isn’t the Judge who already sentenced him?

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Citizen K  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:37:47am

re: #286 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Jackson says Manafort’s lies can’t be ignored, as “court is one of those places where facts still matter.”

Lucky for future Manaforts, the Trump admin is well on its way to changing that little problem.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:37:49am

re: #280 Skip Intro

Didn’t somebody ask about Jacob Wohl?

Not a crime!

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:37:59am
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Citizen K  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:38:07am

re: #287 Sir John Barron

So this isn’t the Judge who already sentenced him?

Completely different judge, and thank god for that.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:38:21am

re: #287 Sir John Barron

So this isn’t the Judge who already sentenced him?

Nope different Judge.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:39:04am

re: #269 lawhawk

If the plane is American-made, then the NTSB may be invited to join the investigation. Sometimes it could help lead due to expertise and lack of same in the country where the crash occurred or the operator of the airline.

The builder of the airline will also participate in the investigation.

Under Trump we have a vacancy at the head of the FAA, and interim leadership positions from the top down. He’s undermining public safety.

Ssssshhhh. Fox and Friendz is on.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:42:37am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:44:38am

re: #294 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Rage tweeting begins in 5….4….3

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:45:01am

Ouch!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:46:41am

re: #276 MsJ

weeeeee

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All I have to say to that insane Tweeter is…

FUCK Q!

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:46:53am

re: #223 The Vicious Babushka

It truly is the end times.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:48:34am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:48:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:49:21am

re: #286 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Jackson says Manafort’s lies can’t be ignored, as “court is one of those places where facts still matter.”

Fake Justice!!!

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:49:34am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:50:33am
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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:50:45am

re: #302 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

The question of Russian collusion is “unrelated to the maters at hand,” Jackson says.

Coming soon to a presidential tweet near you!

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:51:34am

re: #304 makeitstop

Coming soon to a presidential tweet near you!

Which doesn’t mean what he thinks it means.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:54:10am

Sounds like Judge Jackson is getting ready to pound Manafort with the iron hammer of Justice.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:54:57am

Morning Consult came out with their state by state tracking of Trump approval. He’s underwater almost everywhere. He’s down everywhere from a year ago.

And if the election were held today, he’d be blown out as a handful of states are solid GOP at this point.

Right now, there’s about 313 EVs that are solid/lean D, and just 123 that are solid/lean GOP. The tossups include NC, GA, FL, TX, and MT. In other words, this could go from bad to blowout in very short order.

How to ensure that happens: keep the hammer down on Trump and continue investigating him. Make sure people know he’s out to gut their health coverage and that they’re paying for his idiotic trade war.

AND GOTV! Every vote matters, and we need to make sure every vote counts.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:54:58am

Please, Judge Jackson, give ManaFART the butt bongo-ing he so richly deserves!

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:55:03am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:56:17am

Canada grounds the Boeing 737 Max. That leave the US as the only nation allowing them to fly.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:58:21am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:58:43am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:59:34am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 8:59:54am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:00:43am

Not all concurrent.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:01:25am

Judge Jackson is going to work the sentencing math out… and it appears while some counts may get served concurrently with the sentencing handed down last week, the witness tampering charge will go consecutively - extending the time Manafort serves in prison.

The duration? Stay tuned.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:01:50am

re: #287 Sir John Barron

So this isn’t the Judge who already sentenced him?

No, it is not. Different trial, This one is in DC, The other was in Virginia.

This trial is for lying to the FBI, money laundering and foreign lobbying.

The one in Virginia was for tax evasion and embezzlement.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:03:24am

re: #316 lawhawk

That means a total sentence of 73 months in prison. That’s … 6 years +.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:03:32am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:04:53am

Pardon coming in 5…4..3…2…1…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:05:01am

re: #317 ObserverArt

No, it is not. Different trial, This one is in DC, The other was in Virginia.

This trial is for lying to the FBI, money laundering and foreign lobbying.

The one in Virginia was for tax evasion and embezzlement.

So many crimes, so much time..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:05:17am

re: #318 lawhawk

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That means a total sentence of 73 months in prison. That’s … 6 years +.

We can now use that as a unit of measure: 6 years is one Manafort, as in “I was married for 2.15 Manaforts.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:05:55am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:06:08am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:06:28am

re: #323 The Vicious Babushka

Whose campaign manager was he again……

Oh yeah

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:07:46am

re: #325 Sir John Barron

Whose campaign manager coffee boy was he again……

Oh yeah

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:08:21am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:08:44am

So an additional 3.583 years on to of what he was originally given. meh.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:09:31am

re: #328 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

So an additional 3.583 years on to of what he was originally given. meh.

It’s good to be a wealthy White man.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:11:38am

re: #329 Patricia Kayden

It’s good to be a wealthy White man.

He doesn’t have all that much any more. The Fed stripped him of most of it. Wonder if the AGNY has anything she can charge him with.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:12:46am

re: #330 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

He doesn’t have all that much any more. The Fed stripped him of most of it. Wonder if the AGNY has anything she can charge him with.

NYS can prosecute him on state tax fraud and financial crimes charges. There’s no double jeopardy there, because they are independent charges.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:14:25am

OK, sentenced, time for the Mueller report. (I know, I said this Monday).

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:15:04am

So, a total of 6.75 years in prison for the federal crimes.

He’s getting off easy. It will be tough for this asshole to endure the time, but when you consider what he did and what happens to ordinary folks in America it is not really fair to the people of this country.

I guess everyone needs to slick up in a nice suit and tie before you rob a bank, sell drugs, or cheat on your own taxes. And make sure you have some good power connections.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:15:34am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:16:42am

re: #331 lawhawk

NYS can prosecute him on state tax fraud and financial crimes charges. There’s no double jeopardy there, because they are independent charges.

The only question is, will they?

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TedStriker  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:16:58am

re: #328 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

So an additional 3.583 years on to of what he was originally given. meh.

re: #329 Patricia Kayden

It’s good to be a wealthy White man.

Let’s be honest…there was not much more that Judge Berman-Jackson could have given Manafort that wouldn’t have made it a magnet for an judicial-bias appeal on the sentence alone, because of the fairly lenient sentence Judge Ellis had already given him.

Yeah, Manafort deserves much more time in prison for all that he’s done, but Ellis purposely screwed the pooch on that.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:17:39am

re: #332 Shropshire Slasher

OK, sentenced, time for the Mueller report. (I know, I said this Monday).

What’s your big rush? It’ll be released when it is released.

Besides we still have Stone trial and Flynn sentencing. That may figure in.

Then there is Rick Gates who was still helping Mueller as was Flynn to help cut his time.

So who knows, there may be more to add to it.

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Alephnaught  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:18:09am
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:19:38am

re: #333 ObserverArt

So, a total of 6.75 years in prison for the federal crimes.

He’s getting off easy. It will be tough for this asshole to endure the time, but when you consider what he did and what happens to ordinary folks in America it is not really fair to the people of this country.

I guess everyone needs to slick up in a nice suit and tie before you rob a bank, sell drugs, or cheat on your own taxes. And make sure you have some good power connections.

Since a significant chunk of Manafort’s crimes are financial in nature, how hard can he be hit on the forfeiture front? If he gets tens of millions of dollars seized, that’s gotta hurt as much, if not more than the prison sentence.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:23:16am

re: #336 TedStriker

Let’s be honest…there was not much more that Judge Berman-Jackson could have given Manafort that wouldn’t have made it a magnet for an judicial-bias appeal on the sentence alone, because of the fairly lenient sentence Judge Ellis had already given him.

Yeah, Manafort deserves much more time in prison for all that he’s done, but Ellis purposely screwed the pooch on that.

This. She gave him about 65% of the max, but threw him a slight bone on the concurrent aspect of the sentencing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:25:33am

re: #333 ObserverArt

So, a total of 6.75 years in prison for the federal crimes.

He’s getting off easy. It will be tough for this asshole to endure the time, but when you consider what he did and what happens to ordinary folks in America it is not really fair to the people of this country.

I guess everyone needs to slick up in a nice suit and tie before you rob a bank, sell drugs, or cheat on your own taxes. And make sure you have some good power connections.

Our system is broken, perhaps beyond repair. Of course, wealthy white men escaping justice is nothing new. It is infuriating beyond words that they routinely commit financial crimes but are never investigated because it’s too much work. Manafort should have been in prison years ago — Trump should have been in prison years ago — but they are not the exception, they are the rule. Leona Helmsley (of “only little people pay taxes” fame) only had to serve 19 months in prison, out of a 16 year sentence for income tax evasion. And she was caught because she stiffed contractors — a crime that Trump repeatedly committed with impunity.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:25:35am

re: #339 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Since a significant chunk of Manafort’s crimes are financial in nature, how hard can he be hit on the forfeiture front? If he gets tens of millions of dollars seized, that’s gotta hurt as much, if not more than the prison sentence.

Mueller has already paid for his investigation with some of the assets seized from Manafort. There’s some more that could be taken, if they wanted.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:28:14am

Should we start a pool on when the pardon drops?

/

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:31:22am

re: #343 makeitstop

tickcounter.com

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:31:35am

re: #343 makeitstop

Should we start a pool on when the pardon drops?

/

I think we should prepare the lines necessary to say that Trump will cover up any crime that helps him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:33:03am

So Manafort got off easy again?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:33:04am

According to the New York Daily News, the former New York City mayor was upbraided by Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Michael Katz after he repeatedly interjected during his estranged wife Judith Nathan’s testimony during a progress hearing. During one such interjection, Giuliani reportedly shouted out that one of his wife’s claims was “bullshit!”

Judge Katz then implored: “Mr. Giuliani, don’t interrupt the proceeding. You have lawyers representing you. You’re not the lawyer.”

At one point during the hearing, Giulliani accused Nathan of hiding a bank account from him which contained a grand total of $100. Nathan’s lawyers claimed the undisclosed bank account was simply an oversight due to Giuliani’s re-routing of the couple’s mail.

In turn, Nathan accused Giuliani of failing to pay medical bills for the continued treatment of Nathan’s mother-who is confined to a nursing home-allegedly in violation of a previous court order.

LOfuckinL
what a lowrent divorce soap opera

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:33:58am

re: #341 Hecuba’s daughter

Our system is broken, perhaps beyond repair. Of course, wealthy white men escaping justice is nothing new. It is infuriating beyond words that they routinely commit financial crimes but are never investigated because it’s too much work. Manafort should have been in prison years ago — Trump should have been in prison years ago — but they are not the exception, they are the rule. Leona Helmsley (of “only little people pay taxes” fame) only had to serve 19 months in prison, out of a 16 year sentence for income tax evasion. And she was caught because she stiffed contractors — a crime that Trump repeatedly committed with impunity.

Well, it is 2019:

Little people

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:34:49am

re: #346 Eclectic Cyborg

So Manafort got off easy again?

No. He didn’t.

Today’s sentence was about 70% of what he could have gotten as a max. Within the sentencing guidelines to be sure.

Again, I would have thrown the book and gone with the max sentence on all the counts, but that’s me.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:37:16am

re: #349 lawhawk

No. He didn’t.

Today’s sentence was about 70% of what he could have gotten as a max. Within the sentencing guidelines to be sure.

Again, I would have thrown the book and gone with the max sentence on all the counts, but that’s me.

IMO, there are several contempt-of-court charges possible from the current proceedings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:38:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:40:09am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lee is going to get confirmed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:40:17am

Waiting for word on the clusterf*ck Brexit vote also due today

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:43:01am

So, watching the Maddow clip about the 737 crashes. I…wait what?

THE STALL-PREVENTION SYSTEM IS BASED OFF OF ONE SENSOR! MY THERMOSTAT AT HOME HAS ONE SENSOR. IT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING 200 PEOPLE FROM POWER DIVING INTO THE GROUND.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:43:54am

this guy…why is he talking?

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:44:48am

Looks like my question if the AGNY was going to pursue charges against Manafort has been answered.

Edit. Actually it looks like it’s the CITY of New York, not the State that pursuing charges.

Edited again. They are State charges. Thanks Lawhawk.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:45:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:48:04am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:48:49am

re: #352 Eclectic Cyborg

Lee is going to get confirmed.

McConnell has achieved his lifelong dream — transforming the entire federal court system into a toxic, racist, oligarchical institution that will focus on imprisoning and destroying minorities and denying them the vote. Of course he can retire in 2020 — he has accomplished his goals and we will not escape the evil he has wrought in my lifetime.

Thanks to the BernieBros for their role in enabling this toxic brew to poison our nation.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:48:50am

re: #356 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Looks like my question if the AGNY was going to pursue charges against Manafort has been answered.

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Hot damn! Those are pardon-proof charges, too.

I get the feeling that NY AG will be the one to finally nail his hide to the wall for good.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:49:26am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

this guy…why is he talking?

The real question is why is anyone listening?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:49:48am

Anyone else having facebook problems? My sister is having a fit because she cannot get me to answer her on it and when I go in it says that I’m unable to post at this time…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:50:01am

re: #362 Belafon

The real question is why is anyone listening?

Trump is listening and will use those words as reason to pardon him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:50:09am
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:51:17am

re: #356 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Looks like my question if the AGNY was going to pursue charges against Manafort has been answered.

Are they different crimes than the ones he’s been convicted of, because there’s a double-jeopardy case going through the courts right now that could affect them if they are the same.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:51:50am

Saw Manafort’s attorney speaking outside, saying “two courts have said there is no evidence of collusion!” Clearly speaking to Trump.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:53:17am

re: #366 Belafon

Are they different crimes than the ones he’s been convicted of, because there’s a double-jeopardy case going through the courts right now that could affect them if they are the same.

From what I understand, they are totally different charges. Lawhawk would know better than I though.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:54:10am

re: #356 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Looks like my question if the AGNY was going to pursue charges against Manafort has been answered.

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I think I heard there are three states looking into charges. Delaware and New Jersey are also considering if I heard it correctly.

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ckkatz  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:54:56am

re: #363 Joe Bacon 🌹

Anyone else having facebook problems? My sister is having a fit because she cannot get me to answer her on it and when I go in it says that I’m unable to post at this time…

Sometimes the owner has their Facebook page locked or protected, which, when I am not in the permitted group, prevents me from writing to it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:55:52am

re: #368 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

From what I understand, they are totally different charges. Lawhawk would know better than I though.

from the article:

Last week, a grand jury hearing evidence in the case voted to charge Mr. Manafort with residential mortgage fraud, conspiracy, falsifying business records and other charges.

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:57:15am

re: #363 Joe Bacon 🌹

Won’t let me sign in on either account.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:58:41am

Thanks for the Facebook feedback. Now I can go back to nonstop coughing…

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:58:45am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

He won’t just die in prison. They’re going to put him in until proton decay sets in.

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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:59:38am

re: #372 plansbandc

Won’t let me sign in on either account.

You’re twoFaced?!?!? I’ve seen two-tailed lizards, but not twoFaced.

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:59:54am

re: #373 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hope you get better soon. <3

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:59:55am

moron

“Republicans are overthinking…” LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:00:23am

re: #363 Joe Bacon 🌹

Anyone else having facebook problems? My sister is having a fit because she cannot get me to answer her on it and when I go in it says that I’m unable to post at this time…

This is what I just got when I tried to login.

Facebook Will Be Back Soon
Facebook is down for required maintenance right now, but you should be able to get back on within a few minutes. In the meantime, read more about why you’re seeing this message. Thanks for your patience as we improve the site.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:02:13am

re: #378 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

This is what I just got when I tried to login.

Facebook Will Be Back Soon
Facebook is down for required maintenance right now, but you should be able to get back on within a few minutes. In the meantime, read more about why you’re seeing this message. Thanks for your patience as we improve the site.

I just logged in and had no problems.

In Europe

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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:02:39am

re: #373 Joe Bacon 🌹

Thanks for the Facebook feedback. Now I can go back to nonstop coughing…

Hot lemonade. Most people put tea in it, but that’s optional.

{{{hugs from behind so I don’t get coughed on}}}

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:02:44am

re: #356 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Looks like my question if the AGNY was going to pursue charges against Manafort has been answered.

Edit. Actually it looks like it’s the CITY of New York, not the State that pursuing charges.

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The indictments are for state charges. The prosecutor is the Manhattan DA, who is the county DA (Manhattan is a county after all). The charges are in violation of state criminal statutes.

NYC has additional tax laws, and he could be charged for those as well (again by the Manhattan DA), but it looks like the state charges are the ones to focus on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:03:57am

re: #378 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

This is what I just got when I tried to login.

Facebook Will Be Back Soon
Facebook is down for required maintenance right now, but you should be able to get back on within a few minutes. In the meantime, read more about why you’re seeing this message. Thanks for your patience as we improve the site.

I was having issues just a few minutes ago on my iPhone.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:04:12am

re: #378 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

This is what I just got when I tried to login.

Facebook Will Be Back Soon
Facebook is down for required maintenance right now, but you should be able to get back on within a few minutes. In the meantime, read more about why you’re seeing this message. Thanks for your patience as we improve the site.

re: #363 Joe Bacon 🌹

Anyone else having facebook problems? My sister is having a fit because she cannot get me to answer her on it and when I go in it says that I’m unable to post at this time…

It’s working fine on my IPhone but I am always logged in there. Right now I cannot get into a functioning version on my computer.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:04:49am

re: #383 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s working fine on my IPhone but I am always logged in there. Right now I cannot get into a functioning version on my computer.

It’s not working on my iPhone, either.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:05:17am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

this guy…why is he talking?

[Embedded content]

That gaslighting motherfucker thinks Trump was about “ideas”? Or that W didn’t win because people felt like he’d be a good guy to have a beer with? Fucking spineless, piece of shit moron.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:07:01am

re: #381 lawhawk

The indictments are for state charges. The prosecutor is the Manhattan DA, who is the county DA (Manhattan is a county after all). The charges are in violation of state criminal statutes.

NYC has additional tax laws, and he could be charged for those as well (again by the Manhattan DA), but it looks like the state charges are the ones to focus on.

Thanks. Post has been corrected.

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ckkatz  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:07:29am

I’m in Virginia. Facebook on desktop seems to work for me. ?Maybe a western server farm issue?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:07:42am

re: #385 Mike Lamb

That gaslighting motherfucker thinks Trump was about “ideas”? Or that W didn’t win because people felt like he’d be a good guy to have a beer with? Fucking spineless, piece of shit moron.

Paul Ryan is probably totally compromised too. There is no reason for him to weigh in on any of this but clearly he is totally on board with this traitorous regime.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:08:00am
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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:08:35am

re: #359 Hecuba’s daughter

McConnell has achieved his lifelong dream — transforming the entire federal court system into a toxic, racist, oligarchical institution that will focus on imprisoning and destroying minorities and denying them the vote. Of course he can retire in 2020 — he has accomplished his goals and we will not escape the evil he has wrought in my lifetime.

Thanks to the BernieBros for their role in enabling this toxic brew to poison our nation.

SCOTUS balance is a serious issue, but there’s a large amount of turnover on an annual basis that would allow a Dem president and Senate to re-balance the appellate and district courts.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:10:58am

Facebook problems

Other news sites have also reported on this

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:11:53am

re: #389 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Trump and GOP are figuring that’s a 737-MAX8. (too soon?)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:13:52am

re: #387 ckkatz

I’m in Virginia. Facebook on desktop seems to work for me. ?Maybe a western server farm issue?

Here in Kentucky, I am getting a “temporary problem, try again later” message when I try to post on FB.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:17:27am

re: #392 lawhawk

Trump and GOP are figuring that’s a 737-MAX8. (too soon?)

Not yet. Though I am wondering when the domestic airlines are going to pull those damn things from service until the problem(s) are all identified and fixed.

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:18:01am

I hate what he’s done to our country. And what he continues to do. If he lasts this term and another, out country will be unrecognizable.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:19:16am
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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:19:33am
Facebook, Messenger, AND Instagram are down: Global outage hits sites at the same time, causing social media panic

dailymail.co.uk
What the hell am I supposed to do at work now!?!?!?!

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:21:48am

deleted

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:22:36am

re: #398 Ming5000

No.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:22:55am
Calling it ‘outdated,’ the Supreme Judicial Court in Massachusetts has eliminated a state legal principle that wiped out the murder conviction of former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez after his suicide.

‘The SJC has ruled that Aaron Hernandez’s conviction for the 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd will stand,’ Bristol County District Attorney Thomas Quinn III said, per NBC Boston. ‘We are pleased justice is served in this case, the antiquated practice of vacating a valid conviction is being eliminated and the victim’s family can get the closure they deserve.’

I believe that makes it easier for the victims to go after his estate.

dailymail.co.uk

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:23:04am

re: #397 Shropshire Slasher

dailymail.co.uk
What the hell am I supposed to do at work now!?!?!?!

Youtube.

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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:23:30am
social media panic

Here we go….

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:23:49am

re: #401 Eclectic Cyborg

and skipping to the comments in Daily Fail.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:23:59am
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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:24:12am

re: #356 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Looks like my question if the AGNY was going to pursue charges against Manafort has been answered.

Edit. Actually it looks like it’s the CITY of New York, not the State that pursuing charges.

Edited again. They are State charges. Thanks Lawhawk.

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As I do not have a sub to the times…anyone have a cliff notes version of the charges?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:26:02am

re: #405 MsJ

As I do not have a sub to the times…anyone have a cliff notes version of the charges?

16 counts of real estate mortgage fraud. Double jeopardy won’t attach. lawfareblog.com

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:26:58am

re: #405 MsJ

As I do not have a sub to the times…anyone have a cliff notes version of the charges?

Here’s an AP link.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:27:54am
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ckkatz  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:28:35am

re: #390 Mike Lamb

SCOTUS balance is a serious issue, but there’s a large amount of turnover on an annual basis that would allow a Dem president and Senate to re-balance the appellate and district courts.

As I understand it, there are several different classes of “Federal Judge”. Most classes are referred to by their Constitutional Article authorization. Mostly the talk has been on Article III court appointments.

And, as always, the information below is given in good faith, but I encourage all to verify.

Article I includes the United States Tax Court, the United States Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims, the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces, the United States Court of Federal Claims, and the United States Court of Military Commission Review. The Trump administration has 7 confirmed and 9 nominated.

Article III includes the Supreme Court, the United States Courts of Appeals, the United States District Courts, and the United States Court of International Trade. There have been 91 confirmed and 62 nominations. I believe that there are 870 Article III judge positions of which there are currently 146 vacancies.

Article IV are Territorial courts. These are the District Court for the Northern Mariana Islands, the District Court of Guam, and the District Court of the Virgin Islands. So far none confirmed or nominated.

en.wikipedia.org

en.m.wikipedia.org

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:28:51am

re: #404 lawhawk

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Does it violate any legal canon for lawyers to lie to the public about judicial statements?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:29:44am

re: #404 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Love to hear people call out those fucking liars!

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:31:11am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

If more than 3 neurons in total are firing off inside the brain of your typical right winger that qualifies as “overthinking.”

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:33:25am

re: #406 NO SMOCKING GUN!

16 counts of real estate mortgage fraud. Double jeopardy won’t attach. lawfareblog.com

Lawfare is down, down, down. Cloudflare error.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:34:34am
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:35:33am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

[Embedded content]

“Republicans are overthinking…” LOLOLOLOLOLOL

We have a major national emergency for the last four months!!! And I am too chicken to call for a national emergency because I know it will be bad politically…but we still have an emergency!!!

The fat little orange boy that cried wolf too many times.

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:35:39am

If you’re gonna kill my social media, why didn’t you kill the cesspool known as twitter?

Just not right.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:37:52am

re: #416 plansbandc

If you’re gonna kill my social media, why didn’t you kill the cesspool known as twitter?

Just not right.

I have found twitter to be a great source of information and breaking news.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:38:41am

re: #410 Hecuba’s daughter

Does it violate any legal canon for lawyers to lie to the public about judicial statements?

The VA rules of professional conduct concern the attorney-client interactions, and role of the lawyer, and there are rules around trial publicity (Rule 3.6). I don’t think they’d apply in this case, but Rule 4.1 addresses truthfulness.

The Principles of Professionalism also addresses truthfulness, so you could argue he violated the principles.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:39:51am

re: #416 plansbandc

If you’re gonna kill my social media, why didn’t you kill the cesspool known as twitter?

Just not right.

If I got to choose between Facebook and Twitter, I would choose to keep Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:40:23am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:40:25am

re: #414 MsJ

“very routine crimes”

As if everyone does this dirty shit all the time and only the stupid ones get caught.

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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:41:12am

I usually try not to go on about how beautiful it is around here because you’d think I was just doing the New Mexico thing about saying Land of Enchantment, or I was a braggart, or didn’t really have anything to talk about…but yesterday and today have been all about the fierce winds and ‘mixed precipitation’, including several types of frozen precip. Before sunset yesterday, there was a crack in the clouds to the west while it was snowing and blowing good, and I saw a snowbow. A fucking SNOWBOW. My new state slogan: FUCKING ENCHANTING

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:42:04am

re: #422 wrenchwench

If there isn’t a picture… it doesn’t count :) /

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Chrysicat  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:43:03am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:43:18am

re: #422 wrenchwench

I usually try not to go on about how beautiful it is around here because you’d think I was just doing the New Mexico thing about saying Land of Enchantment, or I was a braggart, or didn’t really have anything to talk about…but yesterday and today have been all about the fierce winds and ‘mixed precipitation’, including several types of frozen precip. Before sunset yesterday, there was a crack in the clouds to the west while it was snowing and blowing good, and I saw a snowbow. A fucking SNOWBOW. My new state slogan: FUCKING ENCHANTING

Did you get a photo by chance?

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:43:58am

re: #413 MsJ

Lawfare is down, down, down. Cloudflare error.

Back up.

Isn’t Vance the dude who trump paid off? If so…interesting.

And now we see why trump is all pissed at NY.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:43:59am

re: #422 wrenchwench

I usually try not to go on about how beautiful it is around here because you’d think I was just doing the New Mexico thing about saying Land of Enchantment, or I was a braggart, or didn’t really have anything to talk about…but yesterday and today have been all about the fierce winds and ‘mixed precipitation’, including several types of frozen precip. Before sunset yesterday, there was a crack in the clouds to the west while it was snowing and blowing good, and I saw a snowbow. A fucking SNOWBOW. My new state slogan: FUCKING ENCHANTING

I very nearly moved to New Mexico, it was on my list of places…wound up in Germany on the Rhine…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:44:58am

re: #427 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I very nearly moved to New Mexico, it was on my list of places…wound up in Germany on the Rhine…

Must have been a fascinating list.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:45:36am
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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:46:32am

re: #419 Belafon

If I got to choose between Facebook and Twitter, I would choose to keep Twitter.

If facebook went belly up right now, I would do the happy dance.

twitter is bad enough, thanks jack, but there are redeeming factors (real news flashes from real news folk).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:47:54am

re: #428 Eclectic Cyborg

Must have been a fascinating list.

I was living in Norther Arizona, Utah was out despite it being my choice for scenery, Colorado was already getting too far overrun. Then we met some naked German girls camping in the Grand Canyon on the Colorado river and things drifted in that direction…

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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:47:54am

re: #423 lawhawk

If there isn’t a picture… it doesn’t count :) /

Didn’t last long.

My next door neighbor, my landlady, is out on the porch every morning (if the weather is nice) taking a picture of the sunrise on her ifone, but it didn’t last long enough to get her out in the cold.

I decided it was OK to be a not-picture-taking person at last year’s 4th of July parade, when the people IN the parade were as occupied with their phones as the spectators.

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:48:11am

re: #422 wrenchwench

Nice! Wish I could’ve seen that. What I have seen quite a lot here is cloud iridescence. We really do live in a beautiful place.

I have been told, however, that enchantment means sand. :D

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:48:27am

re: #421 Eclectic Cyborg

“very routine crimes”

As if everyone does this dirty shit all the time and only the stupid ones get caught.

I think he meant the kinds of crimes regular old folk do like possession and shit. The sentences in those crimes are off the charts so that is why this seems so light.

435
ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:48:31am

Do you get shaky hands, headaches and hallucinations when Twitter and Facebook go down?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:50:00am
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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:50:04am

re: #427 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I very nearly moved to New Mexico, it was on my list of places…wound up in Germany on the Rhine…

Two of my siblings chose Germany, and they’ve seen New Mexico. Germany has an economy.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:52:01am

re: #435 ObserverArt

Do you get shaky hands, headaches and hallucinations when Twitter and Facebook go down?

No. I read a book. It’s on my iPhone so maybe that keeps the withdrawals down to a minimum.

Now if I lost my iPhone…that would send me into full panic mode.

439
ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:52:10am

re: #422 wrenchwench

I usually try not to go on about how beautiful it is around here because you’d think I was just doing the New Mexico thing about saying Land of Enchantment, or I was a braggart, or didn’t really have anything to talk about…but yesterday and today have been all about the fierce winds and ‘mixed precipitation’, including several types of frozen precip. Before sunset yesterday, there was a crack in the clouds to the west while it was snowing and blowing good, and I saw a snowbow. A fucking SNOWBOW. My new state slogan: FUCKING ENCHANTING

I saw a double rainbow last year. First time ever. And they were as clear and delineated as I have ever seen. But I was in traffic and couldn’t grab my phone to take an image. I was bummed…but I was safe. I got the memories.

440
MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:53:36am
441
wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:53:38am

re: #439 ObserverArt

I saw a double rainbow last year. First time ever. And they were as clear and delineated as I have ever seen. But I was in traffic and couldn’t grab my phone to take an image. I was bummed…but I was safe. I got the memories.

I average six doubles per year.

FUCKING ENCHANTING

442
wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:55:08am

re: #433 plansbandc

Nice! Wish I could’ve seen that. What I have seen quite a lot here is cloud iridescence. We really do live in a beautiful place.

I have been told, however that enchantment means sand. :D

We have the best sand. We have a national monument devoted to sand.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:57:52am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Erik Prince is snake with bad hair.

But that is no surprise. Anyone connected in any way with Trump is dirty. I think that is the only way to be around Trump.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:58:12am

re: #435 ObserverArt

Do you get shaky hands, headaches and hallucinations when Twitter and Facebook go down?

Nope. That only happens to me when LGF goes down.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:58:25am

re: #436 goddamnedfrank

The most alarming thing about the Boeing 737 Max 8 debacle is learning that they’re in the habit of building passenger planes with autopilot systems that have a single point of failure. https://

What’s infuriating also is that American pilots have been reporting this problem for awhile; they were able to compensate and prevent a disaster but Boeing didn’t appear to issue any worldwide alert about this defect nor display any urgency to repair the defect. It is possible that they have been working on a correction since before the first crash but it took awhile to develop a sound fix. That still doesn’t excuse their failure to provide such a warning.

446
wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:01:26am

re: #445 Hecuba’s daughter

What’s infuriating also is that American pilots have been reporting this problem for awhile; they were able to compensate and prevent a disaster but Boeing didn’t appear to issue any worldwide alert about this defect nor display any urgency to repair the defect. It is possible that they have been working on a correction since before the first crash but it took awhile to develop a sound fix. That still doesn’t excuse their failure to provide such a warning.

Correction was slowed by government shutdown. Got no source for that. Could have been wild speculation.

447
jaunte  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:02:49am

re: #442 wrenchwench

We have the best sand. We have a national monument devoted to sand.

Very clean sand.

448
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:06:35am

re: #438 MsJ

No. I read a book. It’s on my iPhone so maybe that keeps the withdrawals down to a minimum.

Now if I lost my iPhone…that would send me into full panic mode.

An acquaintance of mine had an IPhone that stopped working this weekend — and it actually caused his friends to go into panic mode. He was fine but he failed to show up for an important meeting and no one could get in touch with him. They were all fearing the worst when the problem was — he didn’t know anyone’s phone number to contact them and he failed to get to the meeting because the address was in his phone! I think this got resolved when someone visited his apartment and discovered him safe and sound.

449
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:09:16am

re: #446 wrenchwench

Correction was slowed by government shutdown. Got no source for that. Could have been wild speculation.

Rachel mentioned that as a reason for the delay BUT Boeing should have told the world how to address this issue in the interim using the tricks from American pilots and thereby avert both catastrophes.

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:09:25am

re: #442 wrenchwench

Indeed we do, and it is beautiful!

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:10:06am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:11:26am

re: #451 jaunte

[Embedded content]

OOPS!

Looks like the Invisible Hand Of The Free Market was simply flipping up the middle finger…

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:11:59am
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:13:32am
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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:13:43am

re: #237 Shropshire Slasher

VW is going after the EV market. Trying to undercut Tesla imho.

and

I’m holding out for the diesel electric…

cnbc.com

Diesel engines are the “coal power plant” of the internal combustion engine.

When it comes to particulates, size matters.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:13:47am

Fucking American is still flying these 737s. So now I have to change flights and hope they dont change flights before I take this fucking business trip.

Three days before I am supposed to fly to France on vacation. Fucking trump and his paid off shit.

FUCK.

457
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:14:57am

re: #456 MsJ

Fucking American is still flying these 737s. So now I have to change flights and hope they dont change flights before I take this fucking business trip.

Three days before I am supposed to fly to France on vacation. Fucking trump and his paid off shit.

FUCK.

You’re not alone. Love how Trump fucked up my health care, raising copays and reducing services.

458
Jay C  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:17:56am

re: #449 Hecuba’s daughter

Rachel mentioned that as a reason for the delay BUT Boeing should have told the world how to address this issue in the interim using the tricks from American pilots and thereby avert both catastrophes.

IIRC (but always a possibility not) - the issues with Boeing’s MCAS for the 737-800 surfaced after the Lion Air crash in Indonesia last year. Which was long-enough before the government shutdown to have at least let airlines know about the problem. Well, actually, to let them know about the MCAS in the first place - then that there might be problems with it - then, a warning and alternative actions to take. For everybody flying the aircraft.
“Malpractice” is the only word I can think of that covers this sort of situation. And even then it falls short….

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:18:49am

re: #458 Jay C

It killed a lot of people.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:19:00am

re: #456 MsJ

Fucking American is still flying these 737s. So now I have to change flights and hope they dont change flights before I take this fucking business trip.

Three days before I am supposed to fly to France on vacation. Fucking trump and his paid off shit.

FUCK.

If Europe is doing what Canada is, you won’t have to worry about that. Canada isn’t letting one fly into the country either.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:19:04am

re: #458 Jay C

462
Jay C  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:19:49am

re: #459 plansbandc

It killed a lot of people.

So I’ll modify my comment: “Criminal Malpractice”

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:19:50am

re: #460 Belafon

If Europe is doing what Canada is, you won’t have to worry about that. Canada isn’t letting one fly into the country either.

I am flying from state to state on American for my business trip. Flying British Air (if they still exist post Brexit) to France.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:20:51am

re: #458 Jay C

IIRC (but always a possibility not) - the issues with Boeing’s MCAS for the 737-800 surfaced after the Lion Air crash in Indonesia last year. Which was long-enough before the government shutdown to have at least let airlines know about the problem. Well, actually, to let them know about the MCAS in the first place - then that there might be problems with it - then, a warning and alternative actions to take. For everybody flying the aircraft.
“Malpractice” is the only word I can think of that covers this sort of situation. And even then it falls short….

When did the American pilots file their reports? Was it before or after the Lion crash? I was thinking they were before the crash but maybe not.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:22:19am

re: #456 MsJ

Fucking American is still flying these 737s. So now I have to change flights and hope they dont change flights before I take this fucking business trip.

Three days before I am supposed to fly to France on vacation. Fucking trump and his paid off shit.

FUCK.

Your safe. EU has banned them from their airspace.

Boeing: Europe and India join wave of countries grounding the 737 Max

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:23:24am

re: #463 MsJ

I am flying from state to state on American for my business trip. Flying British Air (if they still exist post Brexit) to France.

Bummer.

467
jaunte  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:30:40am
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Old Liberal  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:34:42am

re: #204 Shropshire Slasher

Just got back from my yearly physical, and, surprise surprise I am Vitamin D deficient! Damn winter time. My doctor informed me that there is a push to lower colonoscopy screening age to 45. I’m gonna hold out for 50, I got this.

OK sorry to anyone eating lunch but fecal analysis is being looked at as just effective as colonoscopy. Might want to research the latest.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 13, 2019 • 12:37:30pm

re: #110 William Lewis

A steak pun

Is a rare medium well done.

Dad jokes app. Truly horrible jokes - I love it.

Or the midget fortune teller that robbed a bank and fled.
Newspaper headline: Small Medium at Large

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 13, 2019 • 1:11:08pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I hope they arrest him over this.

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And I bet the evangelicals love his false witness of her


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