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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:08:51pm

Privilege writ large and stark. Club Fed awaits new talent.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:16:31pm
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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:44:11pm

One of my favorite bloggers has given a caustic interview:

From the interview:

SARAH NECHAMKIN: Did you grow up in McMansionville?

KATE WAGNER: I grew up in a small town in North Carolina. There were McMansions around in the wealthy parts of the county, […]

NECHAMKIN: And the socio-political implications of them.

WAGNER: The architecture of conspicuous consumption and the isolation. The houses are so far away from pretty much anything. You have to drive fifteen minutes to get a gallon of milk at Walmart. They’re just completely car-dependent most of the time. I always found them to be fascinating portraits of American culture. They kind of embody the isolationist American idea of This is my plot of land, and the power that comes with that. It’s about taking the architecture of the normal suburban house to new expanses: Look at how much suburban house I have, and you don’t. So you have these monumental elements to the architecture. Huge foyers, with huge chandeliers and huge staircases, giant emerald-like kitchens, like they’re on the cooking channel or whatever. You have these spaces for entertaining that just completely isolate different parts of the house from one another that are rarely used, statistically-speaking. It’s aspirational. It’s the dream house built for the parties that you’ll never have. You see all those HGTV shows where it’s all about how to paint your walls so you can sell your house for a thousand more dollars. It’s the consuming of the home as a commodity itself. I think that is a very backwards way of thinking about what architectural space does for us. The act of conspicuous consumption is so divorced from the act of actual dwelling. If people actually designed their homes for living, they would be a lot smaller and cozier. There wouldn’t be farmhouse sinks and gray walls everywhere.

[…]

NECHAMKIN: Do you think there’s a parallel phenomenon happening in cities?

WAGNER: Those big empty apartments in Hudson Yards that cost billions of dollars for millionaires to own are McMansions in the sky. Honestly, I hate Hudson Yards. It’s just stupid looking. It’s like a bunch of dildos in the sky. The architecture may change and the urbanism may be different, but the idea of projecting wealth is the same. It’s all about the value of the property or how much it’s worth. Everything in New York now is a Chase bank or a Starbucks.

NECHAMKIN: It was hard to find a place to meet for this interview around Union Square that wasn’t a chain.

WAGNER: Now there’s a Nutella store. What the fuck are you going to sell in there besides Nutella? You’ve spent all that money on Manhattan real-estate to sell hazelnut spread?

[…]

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mmmirele  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:51:09pm

Well, I made my kitty happy by singing Sarah McLachlan’s “In the Arms of an Angel” to her. She really likes it when I sing. She purrs, rubs my legs, puts her front paws on my thighs and asks for pets. I may not be a great singer, but my kitty loves it.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2019 • 9:51:12pm
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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:03:27pm

Speaking of blogger Kate, and that colleges were a hot topic downstairs, her latest blog entry touches on colleges and what has gone wrong:

In Honor of the College Admissions Scandal

As a fine purveyor of content devoted to how wild and bad the very wealthy can be, even I was shocked at the news of a huge racketeering scandal in which lots of rich parents do illegal crimes in order to get their kids into certain universities, instead of you know, doing legal crimes like paying for buildings or having lunch with the dean Carmela Soprano style.

[…]

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:08:52pm

re: #3 freetoken

One of my favorite bloggers has given a caustic interview:

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From the interview:

I love Kate and McMansion Hell but I have also come to realize that I am at least partly guilty myself. True, my century old Craftsman house is about as far from being a McMansion as it could be, but it is too big and, especially, too isolated. There is an element of truth in my daughter’s joke that my house is a museum and I actually live in my workshop. That is part of the reason, a small part, that I have struggled with depression in recent years, though thankfully not so much the past year or so. It is also why I continue to consider moving. I keep looking at houses in other parts of the country, more crowded parts.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:17:43pm

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I love Kate and McMansion Hell but I have also come to realize that I am at least partly guilty myself. True, my century old Craftsman house is about as far from being a McMansion as it could be, but it is too big and, especially, too isolated. There is an element of truth in my daughter’s joke that my house is a museum and I actually live in my workshop. That is part of the reason, a small part, that I have struggled with depression in recent years, though thankfully not so much the past year or so. It is also why I continue to consider moving. I keep looking at houses in other parts of the country, more crowded parts.

I think if I were to win the lotto, I’d buy a Miata and put a trailer hitch on it, get one of those little teardrop trailers or perhaps a micro house on wheels and only keep what I could pack up in it, and live on the road for however long I felt like it.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:18:23pm

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You mentioned California. Lots of crowded (relatively speaking) neighborhoods in San Diego. Housing here is outrageously expensive - it’s as if we’ve decided the past decade or so that we have to catch up to SF in housing prices.

For you I’d recommend the following neighborhood, in which years ago I’ve had friends reside and a mentor too. Considered highly desirable for the young professional, a lot of retired people too: zillow.com

It’s one of the neighborhoods in which many houses were built before WWII and are scaled smaller than today’s McMansions, but at the time were considered nice.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:31:10pm

re: #9 freetoken

You mentioned California. Lots of crowded (relatively speaking) neighborhoods in San Diego. Housing here is outrageously expensive - it’s as if we’ve decided the past decade or so that we have to catch up to SF in housing prices.

For you I’d recommend the following neighborhood, in which years ago I’ve had friends reside and a mentor too. Considered highly desirable for the young professional, a lot of retired people too: zillow.com

It’s one of the neighborhoods in which many houses were built before WWII and are scaled smaller than today’s McMansions, but at the time were considered nice.

Sticker shock for those of us in the Midwest — even in comfortable suburbs!

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:32:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:36:51pm
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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:43:15pm

re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter

Sticker shock for those of us in the Midwest — even in comfortable suburbs!

And that is one of the less expensive “nice” neighborhoods. And for small lots and modest sized houses.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:47:10pm

re: #9 freetoken

For my eventual big move down the line I keep looking at small to midsize cities in the Northwest, like Eugene, Medford, Salem, Bend, Vancouver, Wenatchee, and Tacoma. I want city services in a relatively stable blue state near good hiking / fishing spots and on a budget compared to SoCal. Also, since I grew up around Seattle I can do with more rain and less heat.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:53:52pm

I have a crank pet theory that McMansions and other examples of runaway bad taste among the wealthy are related to low tax rates. Huh? In the old days, say, when the marginal rate was 92%, you really had to be on the ball to accumulate enough disposable income to afford a big house. This is a judgement about intelligence and perception, not morals. Even if you were a war profiteer or a mass-polluter, or (Cthulhu forbid) an advertising executive, you still had to be fairly smart to be rich, or stay rich if you were born that way. This is one reason we had the “idle rich.” Heirs were drilled that they could quickly lose their assets if they did not leave business to accountants and professional managers who actually had a talent for it.
This level of intelligence, or at least caution, brings with it, to varying degrees, a knowledge of fields outside the immediate accumulation of capital. It may not be of much interest, but things you heard about taste and standards and the like would stay with you, and be reinforced over the years.
Today, it is very different. All kinds of stupid, lazy, ignorant people have way too much money. All it takes is dumb luck, the right parents, or skill at a particular rube-grifting scam. At the same time, there are actual geniuses struggling to survive, not least because of student loan debt. That may be one of the dumbest and least rational things we do in this society: People work hard to exponentially increase their value to society (not to mention the taxes they’ll pay) and we keep them in poverty to pay for the privilege.

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gwangung  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:54:08pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

For my eventual big move down the line I keep looking at small to midsize cities in the Northwest, like Eugene, Medford, Salem, Bend, Vancouver, Wenatchee, and Tacoma. I want city services in a relatively stable blue state near good hiking / fishing spots and on a budget compared to SoCal. Also, since I grew up around Seattle I can do with more rain and less heat.

Think Bend has been co-opted by the wealthy looking for second homes (thought there might be some decent neighborhoods….). Medford/Ashland has decent housing, though with forest fires taking up more and more of the summer, the air quality may take a beating during the warm parts of the year.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:54:56pm

re: #9 freetoken

You mentioned California. Lots of crowded (relatively speaking) neighborhoods in San Diego. Housing here is outrageously expensive - it’s as if we’ve decided the past decade or so that we have to catch up to SF in housing prices.

For you I’d recommend the following neighborhood, in which years ago I’ve had friends reside and a mentor too. Considered highly desirable for the young professional, a lot of retired people too: zillow.com

It’s one of the neighborhoods in which many houses were built before WWII and are scaled smaller than today’s McMansions, but at the time were considered nice.

Thanks, I just might do that. I really like San Diego, not least because of the climate.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:55:25pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

I think I’m going to stay in California, as I can’t walk on snow/ice and am a bit unstable in the rain too.

I’ve over-wintered in Scottsdale and frankly Arizona is just wacko backwards. Lots of the delusional right, I’ll never forget driving down the freeway and seeing an old guy waving a gun at people who wanted him to drive faster.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 10:58:31pm

LOL

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:00:09pm

re: #13 freetoken

And that is one of the less expensive “nice” neighborhoods. And for small lots and modest sized houses.

As you say — it’s the house and lot size that are the shock, given the prices.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:02:22pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thanks, I just might do that. I really like San Diego, not least because of the climate.

Don’t know what you can afford, but if $1M houses are in your range, then SD is a good place to retire, as there are plenty of services for seniors and the climate is still the best one can find.

And if you have a few extra bucks, it’s possible to find fixer-uppers even in the elite neighborhoods of the county, even in Rancho Santa Fe. The following deal recently popped up: zillow.com
It’s overpriced at $2.1M but real estate sales folk think they can get top dollar right now in RSF, though I think they’re just being greedy.

But perhaps you don’t want to live in the country setting anymore, I get the feeling from what you wrote.

I find SD getting very rich for my modest retirement; I should have been into property flipping decades ago when I started out. That’s the only way a lot of people here can ever afford to live in their $1M houses.

This is why I think some folk back in the middle of the country get a bit put off by us coastal types. They think we’re rich, but the entire real estate thing has been a ladder that is played upon for 3 or 4 decades, flipping houses on the upswings, and thus ending up in a house and lot that are not that big but several times as expensive as most places in this country.

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ckkatz  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:02:49pm

re: #350 Unshaken Defiance

Goimg to Pittsburgh for the first time next week. Working days but the evenings are all mine to make the most of. :-)

I do not know where you will be in the city, but here are a few ideas…

Mount Washington has some viewing spots that allow good photos of the downtown area.

The Cathedral of Learning at the University of Pittsburgh, at 40 some stories is one of the tallest university buildings. It was built in the Gothic style, from top down. (Don’t ask.) Inside are a whole bunch of ‘international’ rooms and the 3 story Gothic atrium is also quite interesting. Across the street is Carnegie Museum with interesting exhibits.

Historically, the Point, where the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers join was the location of Fort Duquesne (French) and Fort Pitt (English) in colonial times.

Turtle Creek at the confluence of the Monongahela River, opposite Kennywood Amusement Park is where Braddock’s defeat occurred. At most, I believe, there is a little sign someplace along a street.

Gastronomically, Primanti’s Restaurant is has a lot of Pittsburgh ‘ambience’. The original one is in the Strip District (a strip of land along the Allegheny which used to be the central distribution point for food being trucked in. The truckers would drop their truck loads there and then get dinner at Primantis. The tables were covered in newspapers. And the meal was two slices of Italian bread with kielbasa, cheese, cole slaw and fries between them. The restaurants are a bit more upscale these days. Pittsburgh culture with a capitol ‘K’!

(I am journeying up to Hagerstown this weekend, in part so I can dine at a previously unknown Primanti’s restaurant there. It’s been 30 years since last I enjoyed their sandwiches. Don’t judge me.)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:03:47pm

My ideal home would probably be a single story, open plan 1bd 1ba (other people are the worst) ranch style about 1250 sq ft, mono-pitched roof angled southwards, solar paneled to the gills, attached oversized garage with space for a small workshop and battery backup system, with an obscenely high R-value.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:05:03pm

Facebook check.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:05:07pm

re: #19 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

The powerful “authoritarian” forces that @TuckerCarlson says are disappearing people like him are…a 24-year-old researcher working her first post-college job from a D.C group house with five roommates and a dog named Noodles

LOL

I know that Bret Stephens can be an idiot but it remains astounding that he defended Tucker’s vile comments made over the past 10 years, especially in light of Tucker’s refusal to apologize.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:08:28pm

re: #16 gwangung

Think Bend has been co-opted by the wealthy looking for second homes (thought there might be some decent neighborhoods….). Medford/Ashland has decent housing, though with forest fires taking up more and more of the summer, the air quality may take a beating during the warm parts of the year.

Yeah, Bend got spendy for sure, and it seems pretty conservative. I wish the Oregon Coast itself had better services because I’d like to be near the ocean but it’s pretty sparse.

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gwangung  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:10:48pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, Bend got spendy for sure, and it seems pretty conservative. I wish the Oregon Coast itself had better services because I’d like to be near the ocean but it’s pretty sparse.

Yeah, I really like the Medford/Ashford area (not hard for me, with the Oregon Shakespeare Festival hanging around), but It’s a tad small and a tad too snowy for me to think of a permanent base….

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:11:18pm

A metaphor.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:13:14pm

re: #20 Hecuba’s daughter

As you say — it’s the house and lot size that are the shock, given the prices.

Here’s a sample of a coastal community in San Diego county, the quaint old part of the town of Cardiff:

That’s what it costs to live nearer the ocean. Most of those are small and old houses, on small lots.

A young couple, much less a single person, can’t afford to buy there unless they have inherited a bunch of money. Even a two income yuppie couple are going to struggle with a million dollar mortgage.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:16:10pm

The house-flipping racket is gonzo capitalism at its most debilitating for society.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:17:50pm

Oh oh.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:18:07pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

My ideal home would probably be a single story, open plan 1bd 1ba (other people are the worst) ranch style about 1250 sq ft, flat roof angled southwards, solar paneled to the gills, attached oversized garage with space for a small workshop and battery backup system, with an obscenely high R-value.

Sounds like you’re a candidate for one of those tiny houses. You can get a lot and build two - one for sleeping/eating, one for a workshop.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:19:05pm

re: #30 freetoken

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:22:24pm

re: #29 freetoken

Here’s a sample of a coastal community in San Diego county, the quaint old part of the town of Cardiff:

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That’s what it costs to live nearer the ocean. Most of those are small and old houses, on small lots.

A young couple, much less a single person, can’t afford to buy there unless they have inherited a bunch of money. Even a two income yuppie couple are going to struggle with a million dollar mortgage.

There are million dollar homes within a mile of me — but they generally have at least 3 times the square footage of these places — and are on larger lot sizes.

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piratedan  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:28:42pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

you might try something like The Dalles (or Hood River) farther down the Columbia River Gorge…. Hood River is a bit more of a hybrid agricultural/art colony hybrid kind of vibe and The Dalles is a bit more blue collar but are close to excellent river fishing and hiking and are really close to the huge produce growing communities in the area, with loads of orchards and small craft vineyards and brewing companies…

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ckkatz  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:31:08pm

My ex and I did our honeymoon in San Diego in the ’90s.

We took a bus tour of the city to orient ourselves. The bus driver lived a hilly area, and even drove the bus past his house. He had us wave to his neighbors as we drove past.

He talked about how the houses in his neighborhood were originally one story, but were zoned up to 3 stories. And then went into a diatribe about how neighbors were adding the additional stories. This forced the blocked neighbors to add stories just to regain the sun and view. Which locked further neighbors.

The light quality of San Diego was amazing. As were the gardens. But, iirc, the ocean was amazingly chilly. All in all, a beautiful town, but quite exotic compared to the DC ‘burbs. (As they say about DC, all the ambiance of a Northern town and the efficiency of a southern one.)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:33:02pm

Those disparaging President Trump’s aviation expertise should be made aware that he has a long history of interest in, and expertise on, aviation and aerospace technology and operations.
Here, 6 year old Trump inspects the new Convair YB-60 bomber prototype in 1952. When asked about the rival YB-52 from Boeing, young Trump quipped, “B-52? That’ll never last.”

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ckkatz  Mar 13, 2019 • 11:37:38pm

Happy Pi Day to all!

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:11:01am
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:33:12am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:03:00am
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:08:41am

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

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Tell me about it. I put one daughter through UCB, and the other is at Mills College. They got partial financial aid because I’m poor. (they only cost about $12,000 a year)

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Scout  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:58:34am

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

For my eventual big move down the line I keep looking at small to midsize cities in the Northwest, like Eugene, Medford, Salem, Bend, Vancouver, Wenatchee, and Tacoma. I want city services in a relatively stable blue state near good hiking / fishing spots and on a budget compared to SoCal. Also, since I grew up around Seattle I can do with more rain and less heat.

I wouldn’t mind Wenatchee (I lived there for a few months in the mid-’80s) if it had more convenient access to Seattle. Same thing about the place of my birth: Port Angeles.

Vancouver would be nice thanks to its proximity to Portland.

Personally, I have my eye on Bellingham.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:26:53am

Yeah, it’s important to include the hecklers who helped to cut off a liar.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:29:46am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:40:49am

re: #3 freetoken

One of my favorite bloggers has given a caustic interview:

I recall as far back as the 1980’s (back when McMansions were a mere 5,000 ft²) and a girlfriend from New Jersey looked out at some new construction going up in Phoenix, AZ, and commented “Are those houses or shopping malls?”

At which point it became clear that was the suburban dream: Live in your own shopping mall.

Downstairs the furniture showroom (living room), food court, appliance and electronics stores (kitchen/den), upstairs a bath boutique, a toy store and a series of clothing/sporting goods stores along a gallery.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:59:41am

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

re: #8 William Lewis

I think if I were to win the lotto, I’d buy a Miata and put a trailer hitch on it, get one of those little teardrop trailers or perhaps a micro house on wheels and only keep what I could pack up in it, and live on the road for however long I felt like it.

It’s 0430 in Baja Alabama. Every way I try to measure it, we are Middle-Middle-Middle in income and housing. The housing worked to raise 4 kids, and is now larger than needed, but low-cost, low-tax areas are a housing trap. Our 2,000 ft 1970s brick cannot be sold for enough to buy anywhere else.

We spend 6 weeks or so per year, plus a few weekends, in a 50 yr old 16 foot travel trailer. The costs of keeping it on a grid campground, even a discounted federal park, make it far less efficient than the house. (Looked at solar for the house—the amortization is about twice our life expectancy. Son2, near Tampa, is going for rooftop solar with an 8 year break-even.)

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:01:35am

re: #45 Patricia Kayden

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In the fantasy world of wingnuts, if you give the rich enough money, that money will spill over and fall down on the lower classes.

Meanwhile, the real world, we have a fucking real-life game of Monopoly where the rich simply compete to see who can hoover up the most money in their lifetime and pass it on to their spoiled brats. If money “trickles down,” it is purely as a result of the quest to attain greater wealth, not some benevolent gesture by the rich.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:05:05am

re: #48 Targetpractice

In the fantasy world of wingnuts, if you give the rich enough money, that money will spill over and fall down on the lower classes.

Trickle-down might have worked in the age of national economies. Now capital is free to seek the highest returns, which often leads it overseas where they have to squander less on pesky overhead expenses like environmental, health and safety regulations, not to mention benefits and wages.

So the only jobs it creates for us in America are at the Wal-Mart for minimum wage and no benefits, selling the stuff that our companies have manufactured overseas.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:09:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:12:34am

re: #50 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

You guys, I’m starting to suspect it might be Florida.

Carl Hiassen has a new plot for his next novel

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:18:48am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Carl Hiassen has a new plot for his next novel

TBF, there is a Port Richie and a New Port Richie. Don’t know anything about the latter except that the park has a dog-friendly beach.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:21:25am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Carl Hiassen has a new plot for his next novel

This guy has done a couple funny Hiassen-like novels, set in the N Gulf beach counties.

amazon.com

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:23:23am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trickle-down might have worked in the age of national economies. Now capital is free to seek the highest returns, which often leads it overseas where they have to squander less on pesky overhead expenses like environmental, health and safety regulations, not to mention benefits and wages.

So the only jobs it creates for us in America are at the Wal-Mart for minimum wage and no benefits, selling the stuff that our companies have manufactured overseas.

And they’ve missed the lesson of the most robust economies of previous generations — a flatter disparity curve is better for everyone. For the economy in total, and even for the wealthy.

Ten million people with a thousand dollars each will spend more money, and buy more stuff, than a thousand people with ten million dollars each. They just do. Nobody’s going to buy 1000 toaster ovens, or 40 bicycles, or take their family on vacation for 430 days this year.

The guy who owns the toaster-oven factory, or the bicycle retailer, or the travel agency, gets a lot more business if more people can afford stuff that goes above and beyond subsistence.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:27:43am

re: #50 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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I am eternally grateful to Florida Man for keeping Texas Man and California Man from being the craziest hombres on the planet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:50:39am

re: #54 sagehen

The guy who owns the toaster-oven factory, or the bicycle retailer, or the travel agency, gets a lot more business if more people can afford stuff that goes above and beyond subsistence.

The anecdote about the GM boss showing the UAW leader the newest automated production line:

“I don’t see a single union member out there!”

to which the union boss replies;

“And I don’t see a single GM customer out there, either!”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:55:08am

Time for your meds:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:55:34am

and

he retweeted this overnight:

moron

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:58:36am

More Brexit madness today:

theguardian.com

Ah, Brexit…..a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma that’s vanished up its own ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:05:56am

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:07:44am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

That blurry video could have been taken anywhere, including in someone’s living room of a computer game.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:10:07am

I live in a 1200 SF cape cod style with 2 bedrooms up and 1 down with an unfinished basement, first home owned. Our RE agent basically picked it out due to a our indecisiveness. We looked quite a while and I’m glad we bought it. I of course was looking for much bigger house, but I am now happy it’s not so big. I basically habitate one small room of the house and let Dee Dee have at the rest. Outside of cooking and bathing I could be comfortable in a 10 x 10 room. I bang on shit in the basement if it’s too cold outside to work in the detached garage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:10:42am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

Every one of the signatories is effectively saying to the public:

“You’ve had your say. Now shut up. You have to live with whatever we dream up.”

Unacceptable.

As has been said: a referendum is either democratic or irreversible.

It cannot be both.

The referendum was non-binding, it was a request to Parliament to enact Article 50.

But since they failed to reach any sort of acceptable deal, they are stuck with a very unacceptable outcome.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:15:28am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The referendum was non-binding, it was a request to Parliament to enact Article 50.

But since they failed to reach any sort of acceptable deal, they are stuck with a very unacceptable outcome.

This is all just a huge clusterfuck - the logical thing to do is revoke Article 50, admit that what was promised to the electorate is undeliverable, perhaps an investigation into the shenanigans that went on behind the scenes during the referendum campaign, and let the chips fall where they may.

But that would require someone (or a group of political leaders) standing up and having some courage to admit they’ve made a horrific blunder. It’d be political suicide - which is probably why it hasn’t happened yet and probably never will.

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:17:09am

re: #42 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

My parents knew they could never afford to send my brother and me to college, so they moved, when we were in grade school, to Champaign-Urbana IL for the state university. My father was injured and became disabled, and was on disability, and my mother worked in an office. The U of I had a fee of about $550 a year then, back in prehistoric times, iirc, and we lived at home. It wasn’t quite the “move away from home and find your adult legs” experience that college is said to be, but it worked.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:17:32am

re: #64 Dr Lizardo

But that would require someone (or a group of political leaders) standing up and having some courage to admit they’ve made a horrific blunder. It’d be political suicide - which is probably why it hasn’t happened yet and probably never will.

You are asking them to choose between losing face and tanking the economy.

We all know the outcome of that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:18:24am

re: #64 Dr Lizardo

This is all just a huge clusterfuck - the logical thing to do is revoke Article 50, admit that what was promised to the electorate is undeliverable, perhaps an investigation into the shenanigans that went on behind the scenes during the referendum campaign, and let the chips fall where they may.

But that would require someone (or a group of political leaders) standing up and having some courage to admit they’ve made a horrific blunder. It’d be political suicide - which is probably why it hasn’t happened yet and probably never will.

It appears to me that it’s already been political suicide for just about everyone involved.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:19:00am

re: #65 retired cynic

My parents knew they could never afford to send my brother and me to college, so they moved, when we were in grade school, to Champaign-Urbana IL for the state university. My father was injured and became disabled, and was on disability, and my mother worked in an office. The U of I had a fee of about $550 a year then, back in prehistoric times, iirc, and we lived at home. It wasn’t quite the “move away from home and find your adult legs” experience that college is said to be, but it worked.

I also recall then tuition fees were well under $1,000 per year for state universities and a student could work part-time and in summer to cover most expenses and/or pay back their student loans in a short period.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:19:51am

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Found some really good pictures of the YB-60 here.

Cockpit (note 8 throttle levers, same as the B-52):

Flight engineer’s station:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:22:19am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:24:16am

re: #65 retired cynic

My parents knew they could never afford to send my brother and me to college, so they moved, when we were in grade school, to Champaign-Urbana IL for the state university. My father was injured and became disabled, and was on disability, and my mother worked in an office. The U of I had a fee of about $550 a year then, back in prehistoric times, iirc, and we lived at home. It wasn’t quite the “move away from home and find your adult legs” experience that college is said to be, but it worked.

My rich Uncle sent me and a few million of my cohort to college. It cost some of us an arm and a leg, however. Univ of Louisville was nominally private then, and cost $517 per semester.

By the time I bombed out of grad school I had 3 kids and 5 years seniority on an assembly line.

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jeffreyw  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:27:02am

Good morning!

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:33:48am

Trump friend causing further trouble regarding Brexit:

Brexit: Nigel Farage slammed for ‘lobbying foreign Governments’

Prominent Brexiteer Nigel Farage has come under fire after claims emerged that he was lobbying right-wing EU leaders to block any delay to Brexit by ruling out an extension to Article 50.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:53:19am

PowerBall jackpot is climbing up to real money again. It seems to be taking longer this time compared to fall… but it is climbing.

If no one wins the jackpot on Saturday then it will climb over half a billion at which point sales will really pick up.

And so will news coverage, with all those silly lottery-winning-is-bad-for-you stories.

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Weaselone  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:56:34am

re: #64 Dr Lizardo

It’s tough. Let’s pretend that the political courage did exist to form a broad cross party coalition to revoke article 50. Then what? Next election half of them get tossed by a pissed off coalition of probrexit and OMG you killed democracy voters. Then it’s full steam ahead with a Parliament even more well stocked with frauds, liars and nutjobs.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:59:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:01:36am

re: #75 Weaselone

It’s tough. Let’s pretend that the political courage did exist to form a broad cross party coalition to revoke article 50. Then what? Next election half of them get tossed by a pissed off coalition of probrexit and OMG you killed democracy voters. Then it’s full steam ahead with a Parliament even more well stocked with frauds, liars and nutjobs.

you summed it up. People who supported Brexit did not understand that what they were voting for, namely a sweetheart trade deal that allowed them to keep immigrants out, was unavailable.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:06:43am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you summed it up. People who supported Brexit did not understand that what they were voting for, namely a sweetheart trade deal that allowed them to keep immigrants out, was unavailable.

They were sold a bill of goods that consisted of unicorns and rainbows, with clear blue skies and sunny days and the pleasant scent of roses wafting through the air.

And they bought it hook, line and sinker. And personally, at least, I admit I’d hate to be the politician to have to go and tell them that what they really bought was a broken-down Shetland pony with an ice cream cone tied to its head, British weather isn’t going to change because of their vote, and instead of the fine scent of roses, it’s gonna be chicken guano.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:08:46am

re: #76 Dave In Austin

There is no bottom to their delusions.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:16:41am

Doesn’t make the news here in the US usually, but southeast Africa has a typhoon risk, and this year that part of the Indian ocean has been particularly active.

Currently there is a deadly storm hitting Mozambique:

Deadliest Weather Disaster of 2019: Category 2 Idai Kills 111 in Africa; 20-Foot Storm Tide Possible

Yes, it started as a low pressure system on land, then moved to sea and became a tropical cyclone.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:18:10am

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:22:12am

re: #74 freetoken

If I win, everybody goes to Collage.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:24:46am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:25:29am

re: #81 freetoken

That’s a grinder right there. No questions there.

Shit is changing ran rapidly. Or maybe I’m imagining it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:28:24am

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

They were sold a bill of goods that consisted of unicorns and rainbows, with clear blue skies and sunny days and the pleasant scent of roses wafting through the air.

It was also sold as a way to Keep the Bloody Foreigners Out. But the EU is quite clear: free flow of goods and capital also entail free flow of people.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:29:58am

He’s finally announced:

Beto O’Rourke enters the 2020 race as the wildcard candidate

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:30:57am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was also sold as a way to Keep the Bloody Foreigners Out. But the EU is quite clear: free flow of goods and capital also entail free flow of people.

Honestly, I think the Brexiteers really believed the EU would cheerfully make an exception for them. Because they’re special. They’re Britain.

Or something to that effect.

Hubris writ large.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:31:05am

As I noted yesterday, a lot of silly headlines about supposed physics discoveries the previous 24 hours.

So today an article MIT Technology Review tackles one of them:

No, IBM didn’t just “reverse time” with a quantum computer

Amazing headlines about time machines are a long way off the mark, sadly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:31:58am

re: #87 Dr Lizardo

Honestly, I think the Brexiteers really believed the EU would cheerfully make an exception for them. Because they’re special. They’re Britain.

Or something to that effect.

Hubris writ large.

Because they thought that the EU needed them more than they needed the EU.

But mostly because they were clueless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:32:48am

re: #88 freetoken

As I noted yesterday, a lot of silly headlines about supposed physics discoveries the previous 24 hours.

So today an article MIT Technology Review tackles one of them:

No, IBM didn’t just “reverse time” with a quantum computer

“We don’t serve your kind in here!” says the bartender.

Two tachyons walk into a bar.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:33:28am

re: #86 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

He’s finally announced:

Beto O’Rourke enters the 2020 race as the wildcard candidate

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I’m glad.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:34:38am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Waiting to see how the story-managers at major outlets decide to cast this…

DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!
CROWDED FIELD!!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:35:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:37:42am

re: #92 freetoken

Waiting to see how the story-managers at major outlets decide to cast this…

DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!
CROWDED FIELD!!

not to mention “Beto the loser.”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:39:38am

So I click on this very good article on the proliferation of elite corruption by Franklin Foer and the pop-up ad I get is for the Qsuite—private sleeping suite—offered for the ultra-rich by Qatar Airlines.

theatlantic.com

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:48:01am

re: #92 freetoken

Waiting to see how the story-managers at major outlets decide to cast this…

DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!
CROWDED FIELD!!

You know what? I actually kind of like the fact that there are at around a half dozen announced candidates who I could vote for in 2020 without holding my nose at all, with O’Rourke, Harris, Booker, Castro, Klobuchar, and Warren already in the mix. Compare that to 2016 when only Clinton was a truly viable candidate during primary season.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:48:35am

Hybrid embryos

Japan will allow scientists to grow human cells in an animal embryo and transfer it to an animal’s uterus, reversing a ban on the practice. The country’s science ministry announced the decision, which is effective immediately, on 1 March. The ultimate aim of the research is to use animals, such as pigs, to grow organs that can be transplanted into humans. The relaxed regulations would allow Hiromitsu Nakauchi, a stem-cell biologist at Stanford University in California and the University of Tokyo, to pursue experiments in Japan that he has planned for more than a decade, pending ethical approval. Nakauchi has created pig embryos that are genetically altered so that they cannot produce a pancreas, and he plans to insert induced pluripotent stem cells into the embryos. These cells are obtained by reprogramming human cells so that they revert to an embryonic-like state from which they can form other cell types. The hope is that the stem cells will develop into a pancreas composed mainly of human cells as the embryo develops.

Basically, growing human parts in pigs for later use in humans.

Neat idea, but I wonder how American religious atavism has held up such research.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:49:17am

re: #96 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

You know what? I actually kind of like the fact that there are at around a half dozen announced candidates who I could vote for in 2020 without holding my nose at all, with O’Rourke, Harris, Booker, Castro, Klobuchar, and Warren already in the mix. Compare that to 2016 when only Clinton was a truly viable candidate during primary season.

It will make it harder for the GOP ratfuckers to fuck as they did in 2016 with only Hillary and Bernie.

Especially as they are not likely to have any primary contenders to DT in 2020

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:04:20am

There is of course the risk that Beto will get into a trap, the one that is basically the only reason he will rise to the top of the heap is because he is a white male.

For such a critique of him, even though it may not be fair to judge him as so, I think it notable that he gets such positive response when even more successful politicians - Harris, Booker - face much more scorn.

So, how can Beto avoid the white-savior trap?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:04:50am
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fern01  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:07:37am

re: #11 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

When people tell you who they are - believe them. From your link (my bold)

When Donald Trump’s new airline, the Trump Shuttle, launched on a summer day in 1989, tuxedoed waiters with white gloves passed out smoked salmon, honey chicken skewers, and chocolate truffles. It was early in the day, but champagne flowed at Logan Airport.

After a string quartet rested its bows, Trump took the microphone and struck a discordant note: He railed against Pan Am, his rival in the shuttle business. He suggested Pan Am’s flights were unsafe, that the company was strapped for cash and couldn’t spend as much to maintain planes as Trump Shuttle.

bostonglobe.com

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:07:39am
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ipsos  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:08:06am

re: #96 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

BUTTIGIEG!

(ok, maybe in 2032, but still….)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:09:58am

Back later. Off to work.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:11:06am

re: #93 I Would Prefer Not To

Assumes facts not in evidence - namely that any of them will see prison time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:12:08am

re: #105 lawhawk

Assumes facts not in evidence - namely that any of them will see prison time.

Maybe if they offer to donate $1,000,000 for a new cell block, they will get their own luxury suite.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:16:56am

re: #86 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

He’s finally announced:

Beto O’Rourke enters the 2020 race as the wildcard candidate

Why is he the wildcard candidate? Because he’s the non-Bernie white guy?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:17:27am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So Beto is officially in the race.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:21:13am

re: #99 freetoken

There is of course the risk that Beto will get into a trap, the one that is basically the only reason he will rise to the top of the heap is because he is a white male.

For such a critique of him, even though it may not be fair to judge him as so, I think it notable that he gets such positive response when even more successful politicians - Harris, Booker - face much more scorn.

So, how can Beto avoid the white-savior trap?

“He saved us from Bernie!”

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:30:14am

re: #109 Belafon

“He saved us from Bernie!”

Beto campaign slogan: If I can save you from Bernie, I can deliver you from Trump.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:33:17am

Beto is trending on Twitter, but he’s going to have stiff competition today:

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:33:49am

re: #107 Belafon

Why is he the wildcard candidate? Because he’s the non-Bernie white guy?

Wildcard because he has no history of significant accomplishment. Candidate because he demonstrated “star quality” in his campaign.

For the next hundred years most candidates are statistically likely to be white, and a bit fewer than half are going to be male.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:33:49am

Beto is in…. okay. I get it.

Wait. Do I really get it? He lost his race for the Senate in Texas, and that somehow boosts him to presidential candidate for the Democratic party nomination? What makes him stand out from every other candidate already declared?

I really do think he’s a better fit as VP (demographic/regional) than as POTUS, but what does he have that other top tier candidates don’t have (a Y chomosome, melanin impaired?)

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:36:13am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“We don’t serve your kind in here!” says the bartender.

Two tachyons walk into a bar.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:37:26am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:38:22am

re: #102 freetoken

As I noted earlier, Farage is Trump’s buddy:

Trump makes last-minute Brexit intervention ‘after being lobbied by Nigel Farage’

What could go wrong?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:40:44am

re: #107 Belafon

Why is he the wildcard candidate? Because he’s the non-Bernie white guy?

I would say that he has a higher name recognition than many other Democratic candidates.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:40:51am

re: #113 lawhawk

Beto is in…. okay. I get it.

Wait. Do I really get it? He lost his race for the Senate in Texas, and that somehow boosts him to presidential candidate for the Democratic party nomination? What makes him stand out from every other candidate already declared?

I really do think he’s a better fit as VP (demographic/regional) than as POTUS, but what does he have that other top tier candidates don’t have (a Y chomosome, melanin impaired?)

Let me ask you a question: What if, after seeing Obama’s 2004 speech at the Democratic convention, Obama had attempted to run and lose against Kay Bailey Hutchenson for senate, and then lost? Would you have declared him a lost cause at that point?

Beto is one candidate among many, and will have to prove himself there. Whe he as proven is that he can get people out to vote. He actually can inspire and motivate people. And we are defniitely going to need that.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:40:52am

re: #92 freetoken

Waiting to see how the story-managers at major outlets decide to cast this…

DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!
CROWDED FIELD!!

Upding for “story-managers at major outlets”

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Varek Raith  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:42:41am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“We don’t serve your kind in here!” says the bartender.

Two tachyons walk into a bar.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:43:14am

re: #6 freetoken

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I live in an old farmhouse (the original house in this “subdivision”, which really isn’t a subdivision, but an area within the city) and I would love a farmhouse sink. I like them. I would also kill for a house-sized kitchen (I am just shy of a master chef and cooking is a passion) and a master suite that is big and comfortable as a retreat. The rest I agree with.

I think a balance of what is comfortable to the person living there is, or should be, the point. A house should be your personal space and that personal space should make you happy.

I am not a fan of big, “fancy” McMansions, but to each their own.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:43:19am

Do Democrats dare uphold the law against a lawless Trump and a complicit GOP that will do anything and everything to protect a corrupt Trump?

They should. The hearings are a necessity and are already underway. State indictments are starting to get handed out. Mueller’s report is still the 800 pound gorilla yet to be unchained. And 5 of Trump’s key campaign people are in plea deals or in prison.

Mueller’s got indictments against a bunch of Russians too. Stone is indicted. Stone working as the cutout between the campaign and Wikileaks.

So yeah, the writing is on the wall, but the justice system is grinding ever so slowly (and still with a bias in favor of handing down gentle (even loving) treatment of people who showed loyalty to another country over ours while working for the campaign.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:44:32am

re: #121 MsJ

I live in an old farmhouse (the original house in this “subdivision”, which really isn’t a subdivision, but an area within the city) and I would love a farmhouse sink. I like them. I would also kill for a house-sized kitchen (I am just shy of a master chef and cooking is a passion) and a master suite that is big and comfortable as a retreat. The rest I agree with.

I think a balance of what is comfortable to the person living there is, or should be, the point. A house should be your personal space and that personal space should make you happy.

I am not a fan of big, “fancy” McMansions, but to each their own.

I would love an old farmhouse.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:45:26am

I’m with Beto as of right now.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:46:25am

I must say, regardless, that was refreshing. To say he wants to serve as opposed to rule…..

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:46:47am

There’s a number of tweets like this one:

But if you look at the profile it’s just another Trumper.

Pretending to care about “white privileged male”.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:47:03am

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I love Kate and McMansion Hell but I have also come to realize that I am at least partly guilty myself. True, my century old Craftsman house is about as far from being a McMansion as it could be, but it is too big and, especially, too isolated. There is an element of truth in my daughter’s joke that my house is a museum and I actually live in my workshop. That is part of the reason, a small part, that I have struggled with depression in recent years, though thankfully not so much the past year or so. It is also why I continue to consider moving. I keep looking at houses in other parts of the country, more crowded parts.

Oh yeah I really love Craftsman style, too.

I live in a colonial rowhome/townhouse/duplex and I’d love to move out, but that’s a couple years away while renovations get done.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:47:39am

re: #126 freetoken

There’s a number of tweets like this one:

White Trumper is very concerned.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:49:16am
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:50:59am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:51:21am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Carl Hiassen has a new plot for his next novel

SKINK FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:53:26am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I’m with Beto as of right now.

I’ll have to give a look see. I’m very tentatively for Klobuchar. But I’m glad the others are in, too. A big field is fine. Although it will more than likely be over by the time the primaries get to my state.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:55:22am

re: #132 Sir John Barron

I’ll have to give a look see. I’m very tentatively for Klobuchar. But I’m glad the others are in, too. A big field is fine. Although it will more than likely be over by the time the primaries get to my state.

I’d take Klobuchar with Beto as a team. I like her.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:57:18am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I’m with Beto as of right now.

It’s funny. As a resident of Texas, I’m more inclined to support Harris right now. I will defend with my last breath that Beto ran the best campaign a Democrat could have run in 2018 here in Texas, but I’m more interested in Harris. I could definitely support Beto as her Number 1.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:59:23am

Millions of Americans saw their refunds turn into taxes owed, because withholding rules changed. Millions of Americans saw that they owed taxes but they can’t do anything about it.

Wynn, a billionaire, is able to waltz into Treasury, get an audience with Treasury officials and try and get tax relief that will help him and his businesses.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 6:59:25am

When you think of Texas, remember this: Most people here think that the Alamo was an important strategic battle.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:00:04am

re: #136 Belafon

When you think of Texas, remember this: Most people here think that the Alamo was an important strategic battle.

Or that the Texans won (they didn’t).

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:02:41am

re: #137 lawhawk

Or that the Texans won (they didn’t).

We know they lost. It’s part of our glorious history that those brave men gave up their lives to stick it to Santa Ana. When I was growing up, a third of the elementary schools in Abilene were named after the major figures at the Alamo.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:04:10am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Carl Hiassen has a new plot for his next novel

Oh, please please please! I miss him. I don’t think he’s written anything (not for YA) in a while.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:04:39am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:05:23am

re: #140 freetoken

Yeah they mean READ DAVID BARTON GREAT TRUTH HISTORIAN.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:08:04am

Beto may be more style over substance, but I’m fine with that.

Politics in America in 2020 is all about the image, the flash, and working in an era when the Kardashians’ sexcapades are more important to a large share of the electorate than any policy issue.

In light of Trump I think we have to own that today being a politician means, more than ever (as it was always partially true) that being a politician means being a performer.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:11:13am

re: #136 Belafon

When you think of Texas, remember this: Most people here think that the Alamo was an important strategic battle.

HA!!!

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:16:18am

re: #138 Belafon

And we’re taught how the Alamo was used as a rallying cry to inspire Texians to defeat Mexico and win independence.

Texans are all over useless sacrifice.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:18:09am

re: #113 lawhawk

Beto is in…. okay. I get it.

Wait. Do I really get it? He lost his race for the Senate in Texas, and that somehow boosts him to presidential candidate for the Democratic party nomination? What makes him stand out from every other candidate already declared?

I really do think he’s a better fit as VP (demographic/regional) than as POTUS, but what does he have that other top tier candidates don’t have (a Y chomosome, melanin impaired?)

The ability to campaign effectively. That, in today’s highly personality driven celeb as POTUS environment, is very important.

Warren is great but boring (for people who pay attention for less than 30 seconds, which is like everyone under 30).

Women are going to have a very tough go at it. (don’t @ me, we’ve had this discussion before).

I love Harris and she (or any woman) needs a good male attack dog. Remember, we cannot attack because that makes us bitches and harpies. Veep’s historically have been the attack dogs. Beto is good at campaigning. We need that.

He’s the anti-Bernie Bernie. Same message with better packaging and maybe something to back it up. Plus, fuck Bernie. :-)

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:19:26am
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:20:57am

re: #142 freetoken

Beto may be more style over substance, but I’m fine with that.

Politics in America in 2020 is all about the image, the flash, and working in an era when the Kardashians’ sexcapades are more important to a large share of the electorate than any policy issue.

In light of Trump I think we have to own that today being a politician means, more than ever (as it was always partially true) that being a politician means being a performer.

There has always been that element to the presidency, the gut appeal. It’s partially why Clinton won in 92, and Obama in 2008. You have to inspire people to get out and vote.

I do want to caution against giving Trump too much credit. He lost the popular vote. He had a whole lot of help in eeking out the win in the few states he needed. And his appeal, where it counted, was in his racism. But you can’t entirely get away from being the presidential run being a performance.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:22:04am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I’m with Beto as of right now.

He’s a cool dude. I’d love him as a President.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:23:21am

re: #148 Patricia Kayden

He’s a cool dude. I’d love him as a President.

And someone whose humanity is intact. I miss that.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:23:50am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:25:20am
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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:25:53am
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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:28:00am

re: #149 MsJ

And someone whose humanity is intact. I miss that.

Yes, and he can go toe to toe on the southern border from real experience. He and Harris are my top two right now, and, goofily enough, it is from the feel I get when they talk. Like they are real.

Yes, like Obama and The Big Dog.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:28:03am

re: #152 MsJ

Trumpers hate Beto because he is (1) male, and (2) has little melanin, thus their usual tropes will fail.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:28:50am

re: #136 Belafon

Pee Wee -The Alamo

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steve_davis  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:29:22am

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Those disparaging President Trump’s aviation expertise should be made aware that he has a long history of interest in, and expertise on, aviation and aerospace technology and operations.
Here, 6 year old Trump inspects the new Convair YB-60 bomber prototype in 1952. When asked about the rival YB-52 from Boeing, young Trump quipped, “B-52? That’ll never last.”

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the convair was unsafe at any speed.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:31:42am

re: #86 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

He’s finally announced:

Beto O’Rourke enters the 2020 race as the wildcard candidate

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Yep, I figured last night after seeing that Vanity Fair article he was running.

Truthfully, I admit I don’t know how to feel about any of this.

I really am scared we have too many running and it is going to cause problems.

This country is just too messed up right now for things to be anywhere near normal.

Oh yeah…Morning!

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:32:04am

re: #156 steve_davis

the convair was unsafe at any speed.

heh

My first car was a convair, um, I mean a corvair….

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Jay C  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:34:31am

re: #156 steve_davis

the convair was unsafe at any speed.

Only the early models: once they fitted the anti-sway bars to the wings, they handled just fine….

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:35:06am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:36:23am

re: #151 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah… he is.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:36:25am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:37:10am

re: #160 freetoken

Same person who thinks Trump U was anything but a scam.

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:37:31am

It looks like one of my favorites, Tammy Duckworth, is not going to jump on. She must like where she is, and be looking forward to having some choice assignment if the Dems take the Senate (and we must!).

Having two small children may have something to do with that, too!

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:38:12am

re: #157 ObserverArt

Yep, I figured last night after seeing that Vanity Fair article he was running.

Truthfully, I admit I don’t know how to feel about any of this.

I really am scared we have too many running and it is going to cause problems.

This country is just too messed up right now for things to be anywhere near normal.

Oh yeah…Morning!

I’m not worried about the size of the field. A few wil drop out before the first debate because they won’t get much funding. And we’re going to have a whole lot of women running, and a number of minorities. And most of them are the kind of people you’d want as president.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:38:31am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:38:38am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:38:51am

re: #154 freetoken

Trumpers hate Beto because he is (1) male, and (2) has little melanin, thus their usual tropes will fail.

Beto speaks Obama. Traitorous Shitbag will have a hard time with someone who speaks fluent Obama. To whoever gets the nod, Beto will be invaluable.

Bernie the Fuckface, doesn’t speak Obama either.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:39:07am

re: #150 freetoken

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Nah it’s because he actually knows what he’s talking about when it comes to the border and other issues. Unlike Trump.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:39:24am

re: #108 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So Beto is officially in the race.

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Lawhawk…you need to drop Sherrod Brown out of your list. He is not running.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:40:38am

re: #170 ObserverArt

Thanks… will do.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:40:42am

re: #167 The Vicious Babushka

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So the fuck what Lumpy.

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darthstar  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:41:48am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:42:30am

re: #168 Dave In Austin

Beto speaks Obama. Traitorous Shitbag will have a hard time someone who speaks fluent Obama. To whoever gets the nod, Beto will be invaluable.

Bernie the Fuckface, doesn’t speak Obama either.

Obama talked about how things can be better. Beto does too. Trump can’t. And frankly Bernie can’t either. Enough of old assholes who have made it whose entire schtick is resentment.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:42:34am

re: #167 The Vicious Babushka

That’s a leap Evel Knievel wouldn’t have taken.

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darthstar  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:43:33am

re: #170 ObserverArt

Lawhawk…you need to drop Sherrod Brown out of your list. He is not running.

At this point, not running is the new running.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:44:06am
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:45:33am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I’m with Beto as of right now.

I need more. After reading the Vanity Fair piece I see some holes that I need to understand. I like him as a person, as a president I have questions.

Of course I also know that a President can be no more than a great inspiration to the nation and can motivate the people to move congress.

And that is where I have issues. He is one heck of a talker. I need to know if he has more than talk.

I hope that is not too harsh. But it’s my feeling today.

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darthstar  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:46:17am

Crap…didn’t bring my cord with me…battery’s almost dead on this laptop. Watch the Loomer video for the subtle subtext of lights on/nobody home…brilliant direction.

I’ve got bacon…lots of it. Oh, and the three Shastas are all still there.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:46:38am

re: #177 freetoken

Trump’s appeal to the know nothing GOP?

He was a self declared billionaire white guy who was pushing white nationalism whose most recent grift was being a reality tv star whose tag line “You’re fired” has yet to be uttered by him in person against any of the bunch of people (the best people) he fired.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:47:45am

I’d take Mayor Pete over Beto.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:48:44am

re: #156 steve_davis

the convair was unsafe at any speed.

That’s nothing, new Chevy Corvette is so powerful it is bending its frame.

Problems are allegedly not limited to those digital, but also those mechanical. Prototypes fitted with twin-turbo V-8s producing between 900 and 1,000 horsepower have reportedly suffered from structural distortion so severe that the engine compartment’s glass hatch was breaking. These are in line with previous rumors which claimed that the C8 will use a twin-turbo V-8 to achieve hypercar-like performance, with acceleration so “frightening” that GM has supposedly consulted with lawyers about the potential risk of selling something so fast.

I would take my chances driving the new vette.

thedrive.com

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:49:33am

This make the whole buying your kid into a top tier school scandal extra infuriating.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:51:59am

re: #173 darthstar

This video is the greatest thing ever.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:53:53am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:54:09am
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:57:40am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 7:57:50am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:00:10am

re: #173 darthstar

Soooooo, a 1:21 min clip of her Looming (that seems to be the term-of-art used for laura being ignored at a door) outside an unanswered door with an blank an unsigned piece of paper (not an affidavit) attempting to claim that she DIDN’T marry a sibling?

What. The. Ever. Loving. Fuck?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:01:01am

re: #178 ObserverArt

I need more. After reading the Vanity Fair piece I see some holes that I need to understand. I like him as a person, as a president I have questions.

Of course I also know that a President can be no more than a great inspiration to the nation and can motivate the people to move congress.

And that is where I have issues. He is one heck of a talker. I need to know if he has more than talk.

I hope that is not too harsh. But it my feeling today.

Nah perfectly reasonable. But here’s what I like OA. I like that he has introduced legislation
on issues important to me. I like his approach too.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:01:04am

re: #183 MsJ

Those kids should be charged as adults - many of them knowingly participated in the scam.

And the schools should boot them on their asses. Free up spots for actual deserving kids.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:02:46am

re: #183 MsJ

She’ll talk to her deans about not attending class….

We are a doomed society.

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Old Liberal  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:02:48am

re: #97 freetoken

Hybrid embryos

Basically, growing human parts in pigs for later use in humans.

Neat idea, but I wonder how American religious atavism has held up such research.

The thing that bugs me is that fundamentalists will oppose this research, but when the choice is going to live with jeebus or staying alive using the exact therapy they opposed we know which choice they’ll make.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:03:09am

re: #187 freetoken

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You mean the guy who represented a majority Hispanic district and did the best by a Dem in years with Hispanic voters in Texas. Hispanics don’t seem to mind Beto or him having a Hispanic nickname.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:03:09am

re: #188 lawhawk

“Well, maybe the Dems could try getting something like a Super majority vote like….420-1.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:03:48am

re: #183 MsJ

This make the whole buying your kid into a top tier school scandal extra infuriating.

[Embedded content]

I saw some of that video earlier. It plays to all of the criticisms of privilege. She celebrates not caring about studying, etc., she even mocks herself but knows that is the game. She just wants the paper, attention and money.

This country is in serious need of some morality lessons. We are empty, having lost much of the lessons of the two world wars.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:04:02am

I don’t usually like these things but this is funny af. No multiple click through pages either.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:04:27am

re: #191 lawhawk

Those kids should be charged as adults - many of them knowingly participated in the scam.

And the schools should boot them on their asses. Free up spots for actual deserving kids.

Great idea, and to take it one step further, keep the tuition from the criminal parents to use to pay for the tuition of that deserving kid.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:04:57am

re: #189 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Soooooo, a 1:21 min clip of her Looming (that seems to be the term-of-art used for laura being ignored at a door) outside an unanswered door with an blank an unsigned piece of paper (not an affidavit) attempting to claim that she DIDN’T marry a sibling?

What. The. Ever. Loving. Fuck?

“Hi, 911, I’d like to report some very suspicious people outside with video cameras.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:06:28am

re: #188 lawhawk

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Is Mitch going to protect Trump all the way up to the elections next year then retire?

It sure seems like that is the plan. And if it is, it would be interesting to know why.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:06:38am

re: #195 Sir John Barron

“Well, maybe the Dems could try getting something like a Super majority vote like….420-1.”

Otherwise known as the requirement that Schultz will need in order to sign a bill into law.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:06:41am

re: #196 ObserverArt

I saw some of that video earlier. It plays to all of the criticisms of privilege. She celebrates not caring about studying, etc., she even mocks herself but knows that is the game. She just wants the paper, attention and money.

This country is in serious need of some morality lessons. We are empty, having lost much of the lessons of the two world wars.

She’s a pretty girl. She could be a brainless actress like her mother and make a ton of money.

So…fuck her. And them. All of them.

I could see a parent doing this if their kid tries like mad but can’t get their grades to the level needed. I don’t condone it, of course, but I can see it.

But these kids don’t even give a shit.

So…fuck em all.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:08:41am

Jordan Peele is like the new Shonda Rhimes.

New Twilight Zone series by him. Kinda awesome thought.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:10:25am

re: #201 lawhawk

Otherwise known as the requirement that Schultz will need in order to sign a bill into law.

“What’s with this one ‘nah’ vote, guys? I can’t sign a controversial bill like this.”

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:11:12am
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ipsos  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:11:54am

re: #108 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So Beto is officially in the race.

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Didn’t Ojeda already drop out?

wowktv.com

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:12:14am

That Sirota piece in the Guardian from last December now seems more and more like a Bernie preemptive strike.

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BeachDem  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:13:06am

re: #157 ObserverArt

Yep, I figured last night after seeing that Vanity Fair article he was running.

Truthfully, I admit I don’t know how to feel about any of this.

I really am scared we have too many running and it is going to cause problems.

This country is just too messed up right now for things to be anywhere near normal.

Oh yeah…Morning!

Here’s what scares me. SC is an early primary and gets a lot of attention as “first in the South.” With no Republican primary and being an open primary state, the Republicans, who are numerous and horrible, can vote in our primary and ratfuck till eternity to choose the absolute worst among the pack and give that person a leg up. I’m very nervous about the whole thing.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:14:12am
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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:17:30am

This is some thread.

Ending with…

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:20:55am

re: #209 MsJ

Or… it’s all a scam to get the US to spend billions we don’t have on defending against a weapon that doesn’t exist anywhere except on paper or mocked up.

Because Putin knows Trump would be dumb enough to fall for this nonsense.

OR….. and bear with me here…. this is all just a cover to address the kaiju coming through The Rift and that the nuclear tests in the 1950s were meant to stop Godzilla and other MUTOs (Titans?).

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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:21:20am

re: #160 freetoken

You’ve given me some great blocking opportunities this morning. Thank you!

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:21:52am

theguardian.com

DUP leader ready to strike deal with May to end Brexit impasse
Arlene Foster and Tory Eurosceptics indicate they could back PM if treaty legal advice is clearer

The DUP leader, Arlene Foster, has signalled her party is ready to do a deal to end the Brexit impasse, saying that the prime minister must prove only that the constitutional integrity of the UK would be preserved.

Tory Eurosceptics told the Guardian on Thursday that they and the Democratic Unionist party could be persuaded to back Theresa May’s Brexit deal if Geoffrey Cox, the attorney general, gave clearer legal advice about how the UK could withdraw from an international treaty.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:24:18am

Hand Jive, Hand Jive…. Doin’ that crazy Hand Jive!

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:28:41am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:29:04am

If you think Beto is “right leaning”, you’re part of the problem imo. This is a guy who has criticized the drug war and immigration policies much more harshly and effectively than I’d argue the candidates who are considered the “left” that is Sanders and Warren. It’s true. Beto isn’t as focused on economic inequality as they are but he’s not right leaning either. Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:29:48am

re: #205 freetoken

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It’s bullshit anyhow. He’s not right leaning.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:32:17am

re: #209 MsJ

Russia says it’s going to arm a submarine with 6 nuclear “doomsday” devices

It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the Premier loves surprises.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:32:20am

moron is flailing

again

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:32:57am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

If you think Beto is “right leaning”, you’re part of the problem imo. This is a guy who has criticized the drug war and immigration policies much more harshly and effectively than I’d argue the candidates who are considered the “left” that is Sanders and Warren. It’s true. Beto isn’t as focused on economic inequality as they are but he’s not right leaning either. Sigh.

Unfortunately there is a contingent of Bernie supporters who are “my way or the highway” type of people who will do their best to guarantee Trump has another 4 years in office. They have no second thoughts about their role in 2016 and are eager to repeat it if their cult leader and Putin friend Bernie is not the nominee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:34:02am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:34:08am

That sort of reaction though proves to me that there’s part of the left not interested in a President but wants an ideologue. I can understand the critique about Beto going from the House to POTUS but I’m not going to allow supporters of a man who had Steve King’s praise on immigration and who has a blatant double standard on firearm manufacturers liabilities and reparations lecture about what a real progressive is.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:34:31am

re: #220 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately there is a contingent of Bernie supporters who are “my way or the highway” type of people who will do their best to guarantee Trump has another 4 years in office. They have no second thoughts about their role in 2016 and are eager to repeat it if their cult leader and Putin friend Bernie is not the nominee.

They’re fucking awful.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:35:49am

Kid taking over the casting schooling couch? Kinda gross no matter how you look at it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:36:48am

re: #139 MsJ

Oh, please please please! I miss him. I don’t think he’s written anything (not for YA) in a while.

Razor Girl from 2016

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Jay C  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:37:48am

re: #188 lawhawk

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WaPo article is paywalled: anyone know who the “lone wolf” naysayer was?
(NYT says it was a unanimous 420-0)

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:37:52am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:38:17am

re: #224 MsJ

Kid taking over the casting schooling couch? Kinda gross no matter how you look at it.

I’m sure this is…uh…completely fine. Really.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:39:21am

re: #227 freetoken

Almost managed to forget about Sirota. Glad he’s back on the scene to sort out the politically pure candidates for us.

////

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:40:13am

re: #227 freetoken

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Sirota lied. My cousin works for the natural gas industry. He’s donated to PP as a private citizen. By Sirota’s “logic”, PP is supported by the natural gas industry. This is an insidious lie started by a man who will do anything to slander & misrepresent Bernie’s opponents.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:41:46am

re: #188 lawhawk

BREAKING: House votes overwhelmingly 420-1 to urge DOJ to release publicly the entirety of Mueller’s report, once completed.

Naturally, Senate Maj Ldr McConnell OPPOSES such a resolution and won’t put it to a vote in the Senate

This document is going to leak like helium molecules through a balloon skin…

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:42:43am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Razor Girl from 2016

Read it. Thanks!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:42:51am

re: #226 Jay C

WaPo article is paywalled: anyone know who the “lone wolf” naysayer was?
(NYT says it was a unanimous 420-0)

From the article:

The final vote count was 420 in favor, with no one voting no. Four lawmakers voted “present.”

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:42:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:44:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:45:53am

re: #226 Jay C

WaPo article is paywalled: anyone know who the “lone wolf” naysayer was?
(NYT says it was a unanimous 420-0)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:47:41am

re: #233 Colère Tueur de Lapin

From the article:

Yep.

All told, 420 members - 230 Democrats and 190 Republicans - voted for the resolution. Four Republicans voted present, and eight members (five Democrats and three Republicans) didn’t vote.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:48:19am

re: #226 Jay C

WaPo article is paywalled: anyone know who the “lone wolf” naysayer was?
(NYT says it was a unanimous 420-0)

From the National Post:

Four Republicans voted present: Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar and Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:48:48am

re: #226 Jay C

WaPo article is paywalled: anyone know who the “lone wolf” naysayer was?
(NYT says it was a unanimous 420-0)

Oh and National Post (and all others) are saying 420-0 with the 4 “Present” votes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:49:36am

re: #239 MsJ

Oh and National Post (and all others) are saying 420-0 with the 4 “Present” votes.

Proof that it is all FAKE NEWZ!!!

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BeachDem  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:50:15am

re: #226 Jay C

WaPo article is paywalled: anyone know who the “lone wolf” naysayer was?
(NYT says it was a unanimous 420-0)

From WaPo article:

The final vote count was 420 in favor, with no one voting no. Four lawmakers voted “present.”

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can't think of a decent username  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:50:19am

I really don’t want Beto in the race. I wish he’d focus on getting rid of Mussolini-loving John Cornyn — we need as many Democrats as possible in the Senate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:51:01am
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:51:33am
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Teukka  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:51:54am

re: #120 Varek Raith

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You know the definition of a tachyon, right? It’s a gluon that hasn’t dried yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:52:04am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:56:06am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Obviously Rep. Omar.///

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:57:03am

The suit is the Sandy Hook families v. Bushmaster (the company that made the gun used to mass murder children and teachers at the elementary school).

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2019 • 8:58:56am

re: #242 can’t think of a decent username

I really don’t want Beto in the race. I wish he’d focus on getting rid of Mussolini-loving John Cornyn — we need as many Democrats as possible in the Senate.

Cornyn would be tougher to beat than Cruz. Trump, maybe not. Depends on…everything.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:00:12am

re: #249 wrenchwench

Cornyn would be tougher to beat than Cruz. Trump, maybe not. Depends on…everything.

I don’t think Cornyn is beatable. Not yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:03:22am
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:05:09am

re: #250 MsJ

I don’t think Cornyn is beatable. Not yet.

I’m looking for a Texan who thinks Cornyn is beatable.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:05:17am

I wonder which Democrat will step forward as Chief Distracting Flak Catcher. I thought at first that was what Warren was doing, Beto could do it for anyone. It’s a self sacrificial job—can’t even be the VP candidate. It could mean a bright future—in the distance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:05:44am

re: #245 Teukka

You know the definition of a tachyon, right? It’s a gluon that hasn’t dried yet.

its a tastefulon that still wears jogging trousers while shopping…

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:07:06am

re: #209 MsJ

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Good thing they are our friends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:08:06am
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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:08:20am

re: #255 Eventual Carrion

Da.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:10:06am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:10:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:11:32am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:12:45am

re: #259 freetoken

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George Wallace got some praise from the NAACP when he was a judge. That didn’t change the fact he race baited like crazy when he became Alabama’s governor and later a presidential candidate.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:14:04am
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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:14:33am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

[“appropriate given the planning”]

The best-planned-for ‘emergency’ EVER!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:16:25am
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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:17:41am

Some are in it for the long haul:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:17:46am

Is there any limit to how long Acting personnel can serve in a certain role or are we going to be stuck with these people indefinitely?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:18:35am
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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:19:49am

re: #262 freetoken

LinkedIn says she’s an event coordinator for a caterer. LOL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:20:45am

re: #268 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

LinkedIn says she’s an event coordinator for a caterer. LOL.

as an event coordinator I am appalled…

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:21:26am
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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:21:39am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

as an event coordinator I am appalled…

Oh, sorry, an event specialist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:22:22am

re: #271 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

Oh, sorry, an event specialist.

I am especially appalled…

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:23:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:24:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:25:10am

re: #273 freetoken

I asseume you really want to get blocked…

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:25:20am

re: #268 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

LinkedIn says she’s an event coordinator for a caterer. LOL.

No teaching license in her state.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:26:02am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am especially appalled…

Yes, that made it so much worse.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:26:11am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:26:23am

re: #262 freetoken

To compare @POTUS to Mussolini shows how much our educational system has failed many!

This is actually true. Benito Mussolini was an educated, well-read man. And a genius compared with tRump. Or Hitler. Or Franco.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:27:17am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:27:32am

re: #262 freetoken

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They’re right. Mussolini had a thought out ideology.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:28:19am

re: #279 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This is actually true. Benito Mussolini was an educated, well-read man. And a genius compared with tRump. Or Hitler. Or Franco.

He also spoke better English than Trump.

Mussolini Speaks to the Americans in 1927

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:28:28am

re: #273 freetoken

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And Trump continues it. So even if this is true- it’s not, it’s a shitty defense.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:29:15am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

[He also authored Title IX]

I’m a big fan of Title IX. It let me be a small basketball player in junior high.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:29:18am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Back when Indiana hadn’t gone all theocracy.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:30:00am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Didn’t realize he was still living.

R.I.P.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:30:22am

re: #285 freetoken

Back when Indiana hadn’t gone all theocracy.

There were times when Indiana was a fairly progressive place.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:31:11am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meeting with Ireland’s PM, Trump told his usual vivid story

Wait, I think I see the problem here…..

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:32:01am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There were times when Indiana was a fairly progressive place.

Eugene Debs!

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:32:09am

re: #288 Sir John Barron

Wait, I think I see the problem here…..

Trump’s mouth was moving?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:32:41am

re: #288 Sir John Barron

Wait, I think I see the problem here…..

that nobody calls him out on his bullshit

and if someone does, an army of sycophants jumps in to tell us what he really said

and if that fails he comes out and says that he meant to say something else…

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ipsos  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:32:51am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

My Hoosier bride is saddened at this news. Bayh was a good egg.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:33:06am

Lots of MAGAdolts all sounding scared this morning:

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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:33:21am

re: #284 wrenchwench

Me too! The high school I went to added girls basketball just a couple of years before I got there. Was going to try out for the boy’s team had they not added it.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:34:17am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

George Wallace got some praise from the NAACP when he was a judge. That didn’t change the fact he race baited like crazy when he became Alabama’s governor and later a presidential candidate.

George Wallace:
Lost the 1958 primary for Alabama Governor
Opponent was endorsed by KKK, Wallace was endorsed by NAACP
“You know why I lost…I got out ni____ed. I will never be out ni___ed again.”
“I tried to talk about good roads and good schools…nobody listened. And then I started to talk about n___s, and they stomped the floor.”

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:34:29am

re: #241 BeachDem

From WaPo article:

The final vote count was 420 in favor, with no one voting no. Four lawmakers voted “present.”

I’m actually really surprised there wasn’t recorded opposition.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:37:04am

And we’re off……

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:37:28am
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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:37:48am

re: #294 plansbandc

Me too! The high school I went to added girls basketball just a couple of years before I got there. Was going to try out for the boy’s team had they not added it.

I was about 5’ 2”. I was in the first crop of girls with the opportunity, and it’s a good thing I took it then, because the next year, more athletic girls got the idea. And everyone else kept growing.

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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:38:28am

The phony Hispanic thing is particularly dumbasstic.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:38:39am

re: #297 Dave In Austin

And we’re off……

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Sounds like everyone on the right is scared shitless of Beto.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:39:52am

re: #297 Dave In Austin

And we’re off……

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Beto’s been around that block already.

El Paso Congressman Ineligible to Join Hispanic Caucus

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:40:34am

re: #296 Sir John Barron

I’m actually really surprised there wasn’t recorded opposition.

Or maybe it’s just an easy thing to vote for knowing that the vote isn’t binding, that some reason can develop later for not releasing the report.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:40:53am

re: #295 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

George Wallace:
Lost the 1958 primary for Alabama Governor
Opponent was endorsed by KKK, Wallace was endorsed by NAACP
“You know why I lost…I got out ni____ed. I will never be out ni___ed again.”
“I tried to talk about good roads and good schools…nobody listened. And then I started to talk about n___s, and they stomped the floor.”

Yep. Thanks man.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:41:49am

The Club Fed “prison” where Paul Manafort will spend his time. Cell doors don’t have locks, families can stay over in special rooms and prisoners make calls whenever they want.

dailymail.co.uk

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:42:26am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:42:27am

re: #298 MsJ

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Yeah that’s so bad. Fuck off Brian. Reading is a good thing for a President. It means Beto will be reading as POTUS rather than watching an unqualified hack like you advise on policy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:43:41am

re: #300 plansbandc

The phony Hispanic thing is particularly dumbasstic.

Represented a majority Hispanic district, won the Hispanic vote against a Hispanic Republican, & got his nickname from Hispanic friends.

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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:44:35am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

And he never once claimed to be Hispanic. LOL

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:46:42am

It’s gonna be ‘actings’ all the way down.

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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:46:54am

The ridiculous Dem infighting on twitter is giving me a headache.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:46:56am

re: #301 MsJ

Sounds like everyone on the right is scared shitless of Beto.

at least AOC will get a bit of a breather for now…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:47:26am

re: #309 plansbandc

And he never once claimed to be Hispanic. LOL

Yeah. He’s like my brother. My brother has a Hispanic wife and has an interest in Latin/South America but he’s Anglo and doesn’t claim otherwise. My SiL does tease that he likes the food better than she does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:48:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:48:26am

re: #311 plansbandc

The ridiculous Dem infighting on twitter is giving me a headache.

how much is real infighting and how much of it is bots and ratf*ckers?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:48:55am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:50:08am

re: #295 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:50:39am
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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:51:02am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

I really really wish this shit would end.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:52:00am

re: #305 Skip Intro

Summer White House?

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:52:22am

OT, Sanity Break:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:52:28am

re: #319 plansbandc

I really really wish this shit would end.

You and me both. Unfortunately as long as giant companies control the levers of power…it won’t.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:52:50am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:53:24am

And yeah, they are meeting with each other (that’s not entirely clear from the tweet). Biden initiated.

Frankly, both should focus on getting Democrats to regain control of the Senate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:54:08am

re: #321 Teukka

OT, Sanity Break:

‘cept he would be turned to stone…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:55:09am

re: #310 wrenchwench

It’s gonna be ‘actings’ all the way down.

Florida Man Mayors.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:55:26am
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Teukka  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:55:33am

re: #325 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

‘cept he would be turned to stone…

Only if he would’ve driven the snakes off after looking at her face…

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:57:00am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:57:03am
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BlueGrl21  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:58:23am

re: #242 can’t think of a decent username

I really don’t want Beto in the race. I wish he’d focus on getting rid of Mussolini-loving John Cornyn — we need as many Democrats as possible in the Senate.

He cannot beat Cornyn here. Can…not. It would be like a Republican running in California. There is a massive swath of people here who will never vote for any Democrat.

I watched Beto run here, worked his campaign. Someone here said he speaks Obama. Yes. And he galvanized a whole bunch of us. We watched him stand up in TEXAS and talk about universal health care, gun control, the environment….never flinched.

I will not say he’s my candidate. We have a lot of good ones. But we could do a hell of a lot worse.

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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:59:31am

This after birth abortion thing may be the most batshit talking point in the history of the GOP.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2019 • 9:59:51am

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:01:29am

“Russia is trying to influence the image of Sweden, via various channels, both open and hidden. An example of this is how Russian media painting describes Sweden as a country in constant crisis. “

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:02:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:02:55am

re: #334 Teukka

“Russia is trying to influence the image of Sweden, via various channels, both open and hidden. An example of this is how Russian media painting describes Sweden as a country in constant crisis. “]

You mean Sweden is not a Socialist Hellhole?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:04:00am

re: #324 lawhawk

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And yeah, they are meeting with each other (that’s not entirely clear from the tweet). Biden initiated.

Frankly, both should focus on getting Democrats to regain control of the Senate.

Stacey should run for Senate.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:04:09am
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:04:54am

re: #273 freetoken

Holy shit! That woman is quite stupid and severely delusional at the same time.

I wonder how she dresses herself without injury.

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:05:58am

re: #336 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You mean Sweden is not a Socialist Hellhole?

A lot of the shit on Faux Noise and the other alt-right oral fecalist sites simply isn’t true. It’s so bad that if Swedish police gets wind of a “journalist” being being from a right-wing outfit, they usually decline being interviewed.

Sure, there are some problems here, but nowhere near as bad as the alt-right swamp claims…

*tries to stop hissing*

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:05:59am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What…four Freedumbers didn’t vote with their leaders Gymmy and Marky Mark?

Matt Gaetz is fast becoming a highly-hated member of congress. I bet even some of the Republicans are sick of his act.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:06:38am
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:06:53am

re: #279 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mussolini nicely encapsulated the prime directive of all authoritarians.

Invention is more useful than truth.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:08:44am

re: #342 freetoken

Personally, we’re a better country when we believe we’re not a place, but an idea, an idea that we think everyone should have.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:11:23am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:13:09am

re: #342 freetoken

When did wanting to purify my country from all impure influences and people and create a purely homogenous society of people only like me become SO bad?!??!??!?

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:14:41am

re: #263 wrenchwench

The best-planned-for ‘emergency’ EVER!

Might also be the longest emergency that isn’t responded to like a real emergency.

FAKE EMERGENCY!

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:15:57am

re: #4 mmmirele

Well, I made my kitty happy by singing Sarah McLachlan’s “In the Arms of an Angel” to her. She really likes it when I sing. She purrs, rubs my legs, puts her front paws on my thighs and asks for pets. I may not be a great singer, but my kitty loves it.

Out our way, Otis gets a little trembley when I carry him to the tub for a bath, but as soon as I start singing to him his tail starts wagging. I don’t sing a real song, though. I just improvise nonsense about how Otis is getting a bath, etc. He’s a good dog.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:17:49am
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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:18:08am

re: #348 Jebediah, RBG

I sing to my dog also. He gives me a tiny “thank you I guess” wag when I do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:20:25am

re: #349 freetoken

Beto is basically the white Obama to most folks.

and that is how he will be spun by the RW media: “If you hated Obama, then you’ll hate this fellow, too!”

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:21:15am
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:21:56am

It’s sort of painful to watch her try to come up with replies.

But this is the America with which we must deal, when confronting MAGAism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:23:01am

re: #352 freetoken

Jessy Patino

Replying to freetoken POTUS
Blood libel? His daughter, son in law and grandkids are Jewish btw.

History teacher is confusing the Jewish Blood Libel with the general concept of collective guilt and scapegoating.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:23:52am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There were times when Indiana was a fairly progressive place.

There were times when America was a fairly progressive place.

Even some Republicans.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:24:00am

re: #348 Jebediah, RBG

Out our way, Otis gets a little trembley when I carry him to the tub for a bath, but as soon as I start singing to him his tail starts wagging. I don’t sing a real song, though. I just improvise nonsense about how Otis is getting a bath, etc. He’s a good dog.

Sweet. Maybe I’ll try it. Our dog will willing come upstairs to jump on the bed with me, but if I try to tempt her up with a treat, she reads that as “how fucking stupid does he think I am? I know he’s trying to get me in the bath.” (She’ll do almost anything for a treat, too.) I’ll report back if crooning to her gets her into the water.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:24:51am

re: #329 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:24:59am

re: #352 freetoken

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:25:22am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that is how he will be spun by the RW media: “If you hated Obama, then you’ll hate this fellow, too!”

“Just imagine, you could have Obama without that ‘otherness’ showing up on your tv every night.”

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BlueGrl21  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:28:05am

re: #359 Belafon

“Just imagine, you could have Obama without that ‘otherness’ showing up on your tv every night.”

Beto is more liberal than Obama ever was. But people will have to find that out.

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Teukka  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:28:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:29:48am

VB might appreciate this little “deadly mandoline” story:

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:32:16am

...

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:34:05am

re: #363 Decatur Deb

—-

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:34:21am

?-?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:36:07am

re: #361 Teukka

The world is circling the drain… :(
Front page of Polish paper runs piece on ‘how to spot a Jew’

Same country that makes it a crime to imply they might have played an active role in exterminating their Jews during WW2.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:36:10am

RW coworker of mine has started calling the newest candidate “Beto O’Jerk”. Ohhh, so original and witty!

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:36:46am

re: #361 Teukka

I cannot express in words how enraged I was by that headline.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:36:49am
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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:37:48am

re: #367 Eclectic Cyborg

You’re well on the way to losing them to the RW comedy circuit.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:38:14am

Snopes is having to run their headline today as a Beto story, given all the attention:

Beto O’Rourke’s ‘Reality Check’

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:41:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:43:13am

dog don’t give a fuck…just wants to have fun…

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:43:25am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Seeing this reminds me, The Ohio Senate passed the damn heartbeat bill yesterday. I think it is headed to the House again. DeWine said he will sign it if it gets to his desk, unlike even Kasich was willing to do.

Great move Ohio, electing a fucking little political fossil.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:43:57am

The rare Double Campbell Twitter post.

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Old Liberal  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:55:05am

re: #368 Romantic Heretic

I cannot express in words how enraged I was by that headline.

You would think that a country which Hitler planned to eradicate the “inferior race” would have a different outlook on how to treat human beings.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:57:08am

re: #361 Teukka

The world is circling the drain… :(
Front page of Polish paper runs piece on ‘how to spot a Jew’

Good lord, that’s straight out of Der Stürmer.

This is madness.

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:14:33am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Same country that makes it a crime to imply they might have played an active role in exterminating their Jews during WW2.

Not just during, they were assholes about it after as well. When some of the surviving Polish Jews tried to come home, maybe get their house back… they were run off by rock-throwing mobs.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:27:19am

re: #365 jaunte

Screwed up a “private” addressing.

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John_Manyjars  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:16:42pm

re: #11 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Like the Orange f*ck knows f*ck-all about airplanes…the POS couldn’t AFFORD new planes…he used clapped out B727s for his ‘shuttle’, another failed POS tRump venture.

Every day…a reason to hate him more.

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Alephnaught  Mar 15, 2019 • 4:42:29am

re: #345 freetoken

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Yeah, funny how nearly every RWNJ I’ve ever debated suddenly becomes a “veteran” when they’re losing the argument. It’s kind of like the right-wing equivalent of claiming to have seen The Ramones at CBGB’s.


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