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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:41:51am

Speaking of Fox:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:44:44am

So this National Emergency thing. Is there enough votes for a veto override?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:45:36am

re: #1 freetoken

Speaking of Fox:

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Better than a President who watches their sorry excuse for a show. Beto reads. Good for him. The hacks at Fox and Friends could benefit from reading something other than a script.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:46:09am

Not surprised to see Fox calling education a bad thing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:46:56am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Not surprised to see Fox bashing education as a bad thing.

Like Trump, they like the poorly educated.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:47:16am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:47:25am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

So this National Emergency thing. Is there enough votes for a veto override?

Let me consult the calcuator…. no wait… Magic 8 ball: Future hazy, check back soon.

They’ve got enough to send the bill to Trump’s desk. If he vetoes, it goes back, and some of the people saying nay now might change their vote, or those who voted yea might.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:47:32am

uh..WTF?

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gwangung  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:47:40am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

So this National Emergency thing. Is there enough votes for a veto override?

Not yet.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:48:36am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

“Literacy: not many people know this word, literacy.”

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:51:07am

… carry over from downstairs…

She’s still at it:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:51:21am
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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:51:57am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

So this National Emergency thing. Is there enough votes for a veto override?

They’ll need 20 Republicans in the Senate to get to 67 votes. And we were short in the House of the 290 needed. But I suspect if the Senate gets to 67-70 votes, we might see some House Republicans jump ship too on a veto override vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:53:08am
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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:53:48am

re: #11 freetoken

Did or did not Donald Trump go on and on about Obama’s birth certificate?

“I’m not THAT kind of history teacher!”

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:58:04am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

In 1994 we were barely coming out of a recession, and through the first half of the Obama Administration we were doing the same. I suspect that has more to do with the results than anything else. Everyone is a burden when the economy sucks, everyone makes things better when the economy is rolling.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:58:45am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 10:59:59am

Soyuz MS-12 launching to the ISS at 3:14 P.M. Eastern. Coverage starts in a few minutes. This is Nick Hague’s second try after the launch abort last year.

If your Internet chokes on NASA-TV’s 720p 60 fps like mine does, and you don’t want to watch in 480p like a caveman, you can watch it at regular 720p30 on here:

Pi Day LIVE: Soyuz rocket launches 3 more crew to the ISS!

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:01:37am

re: #6 DodgerFan1988

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Trump went full Mussolini today.

If and when he loses the next election, his move will be declare the election was fraudulent, declare a military emergency and then start crushing protests with clubs and gunfire.

There is literally nothing to stop him either.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:04:08am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s why I think Beto would be perfect to run against Trump. Julian Castro and Kamala too.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:07:30am

re: #19 Scottish Dragon

Trump went full Mussolini today.

If and when he loses the next election, his move will be declare the election was fraudulent, declare a military emergency and then start crushing protests with clubs and gunfire.

There is literally nothing to stop him either.

I don’t think that our military will go with any order from Trump that is unconstitutional.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:07:32am

re: #20 HappyWarrior

That’s why I think Beto would be perfect to run against Trump. Julian Castro and Kamala too.

Beto should stick with flipping Texas. He would be of far more use in the senate right now.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:07:49am

re: #19 Scottish Dragon

I think Trump is vastly overstating his support among the military.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:08:43am
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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:09:25am

re: #21 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

I don’t think that our military will go with any order from Trump that is unconstitutional.

Actually, it would arguably be constitutional since the senate gave him the power to do exactly that.

We have to pray that the military would refuse anyway.

Local cops? A lot of them would be happy to crack heads and see libs bleeding out on the street.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:09:52am

re: #22 Scottish Dragon

Beto should stick with flipping Texas. He would be of far more use in the senate right now.

I think Cornyn would be harder to beat than Trump tbh.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:10:14am

re: #24 freetoken

Ah, the Gish gallop away and moving the goalposts, etc. to avoid any admission that Trump did all the bad things you say he did (and narrator is chiming in to say, ayep - he did).

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:10:25am
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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:11:38am

re: #23 jaunte

I think Trump is vastly overstating his support among the military.

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I think so to, but he does have the power to use them when he declares an emergency and he can order them into the streets of American cities and quell “unrest”.

Yes, he can also shut down much or all of the internet in the US also.

The Atlantic did a thorough run down of the stuff POTUS can do when he/she declares an emergency.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:12:58am

re: #22 Scottish Dragon

Beto should stick with flipping Texas. He would be of far more use in the senate right now.

There is no Democrat right now in Texas that will beat Cornyn one on one. The only possible chance is Beto near the top of the presidential ticket, and a solid contender like Castro or Hegar, and even then, that’s highly unlikely.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:13:46am

re: #30 Belafon

There is no Democrat right now in Texas that will beat Cornyn one on one. The only possible chance is Beto near the top of the presidential ticket, and a solid contender like Castro or Hegar, and even then, that’s highly unlikely.

Yeah Cornyn isn’t Cruz.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:13:50am

re: #29 Scottish Dragon

I think so to, but he does have the power to use them when he declares an emergency and he can order them into the streets of American cities and quell “unrest”.

Yes, he can also shut down much or all of the internet in the US also.

The Atlantic did a thorough run down of the stuff POTUS can do when he/she declares an emergency.

Oh, I’m sure his billionaire CEO buddies would love THAT…no chance of losing profits there. ///

Also, if he shut down the internet, he wouldn’t be able to Tweet.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:15:01am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, I’m sure his billionaire CEO buddies would love THAT.

Also, if he shut down the internet, he wouldn’t be able to Tweet.

All the ISPs would have to provide only Trumpnet….

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:16:58am

The Alarming Scope of the President’s Emergency Powers

From seizing control of the internet to declaring martial law, President Trump may legally do all kinds of extraordinary things

theatlantic.com

We live in a different universe today. Although interpreting a 1942 law to cover the internet might seem far-fetched, some government officials recently endorsed this reading during debates about cybersecurity legislation. Under this interpretation, Section 706 could effectively function as a “kill switch” in the U.S.—one that would be available to the president the moment he proclaimed a mere threat of war. It could also give the president power to assume control over U.S. internet traffic.

The potential impact of such a move can hardly be overstated. In August, in an early-morning tweet, Trump lamented that search engines were “RIGGED” to serve up negative articles about him. Later that day the administration said it was looking into regulating the big internet companies. “I think that Google and Twitter and Facebook, they’re really treading on very, very troubled territory. And they have to be careful,” Trump warned. If the government were to take control of U.S. internet infrastructure, Trump could accomplish directly what he threatened to do by regulation: ensure that internet searches always return pro-Trump content as the top results. The government also would have the ability to impede domestic access to particular websites, including social-media platforms. It could monitor emails or prevent them from reaching their destination. It could exert control over computer systems (such as states’ voter databases) and physical devices (such as Amazon’s Echo speakers) that are connected to the internet.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:17:47am
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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:18:14am

re: #22 Scottish Dragon

Beto should stick with flipping Texas. He would be of far more use in the senate right now.

Castro made the argument in an interview when he announced that he believes a Texas Democrat can do more to help flip the Texas by running for president than by running statewide.

There’s probably some merit to that in that Texas is traditionally a pretty low turnout state. It’s turnout was only about 51% in 2016 and somewhere around 46% in 2018 (and those are high turnout years). The idea being that coattails from a Texas Democrat at the presidential level could help down ballot candidates win.

I think the coattails theory actually works both ways, though. If you get good local and/or statewide candidates who can spend the time/resources necessary to do registration drives and GOTV at the local level, that can help higher up the ballot as well.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:19:32am
SANCTIONING AMERICANS

Next to war powers, economic powers might sound benign, but they are among the president’s most potent legal weapons. All but two of the emergency declarations in effect today were issued under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or ieepa. Passed in 1977, the law allows the president to declare a national emergency “to deal with any unusual and extraordinary threat”—to national security, foreign policy, or the economy—that “has its source in whole or substantial part outside the United States.” The president can then order a range of economic actions to address the threat, including freezing assets and blocking financial transactions in which any foreign nation or foreign national has an interest.

Gives him the power to go after Democrats and high profile adversaries.

Again, if he loses an election and is looking at jail time, what does he have to lose?

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:19:56am

re: #34 Scottish Dragon

theatlantic.com

Roughly 60% of Republicans are on his side because what he does doesn’t impact them. Shutting down the internet and posting troops over the border would piss all of them off.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:20:32am
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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:21:24am

re: #38 Belafon

Roughly 60% of Republicans are on his side because what he does doesn’t impact them. Shutting down the internet and posting troops over the border would piss all of them off.

So? His goal is to make money and stay out of jail. He will throw any and everybody else under the bus, into prison or into a shallow grave in order to do both those things.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:21:42am

re: #39 freetoken

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This lady is delusional.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:22:49am

re: #40 Scottish Dragon

People here still haven’t figured Trump out.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:22:52am

re: #36 KGxvi

Castro made the argument in an interview when he announced that he believes a Texas Democrat can do more to help flip the Texas by running for president than by running statewide.

There’s probably some merit to that in that Texas is traditionally a pretty low turnout state. It’s turnout was only about 51% in 2016 and somewhere around 46% in 2018 (and those are high turnout years). The idea being that coattails from a Texas Democrat at the presidential level could help down ballot candidates win.

I think the coattails theory actually works both ways, though. If you get good local and/or statewide candidates who can spend the time/resources necessary to do registration drives and GOTV at the local level, that can help higher up the ballot as well.

He traveled all over the state, multiple times, in 2017 and 2018. He built a network of people, and set up campaign offices in places that hadn’t seen a Democratic one before (for instance, Rockwall, which went 75% for Cruz, had a Beto office). He did a great job of increasing the numbers, as we saw by the turnout. And it wasn’t enough against Cruz. Now, try that against the number 2 in the Senate, who is liked by the GOP here.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:23:25am

re: #39 freetoken

You will never change my mind.

My beliefs supersede your facts.

Fact-challenged right wing extremist refuses to concede water is wet, Trump is a racist bigot, and thinks Trump isn’t making money off her (he is - because as POTUS he’s profiting from every trip to a Trump business, and taxpayers are paying for it).

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:25:31am

This is the big one: The one he can use to come after all of us and stop protests and arrest outspoken liberals.

The Insurrection Act of 1807 provides the necessary authority. As amended over the years, it allows the president to deploy troops upon the request of a state’s governor or legislature to help put down an insurrection within that state. It also allows the president to deploy troops unilaterally, either because he determines that rebellious activity has made it “impracticable” to enforce federal law through regular means, or because he deems it necessary to suppress “insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy” (terms not defined in the statute) that hinders the rights of a class of people or “impedes the course of justice.


Unilaterally at his own discretion.

Again, given that he just threatened this sort of thing today, does anybody think he won’t try use troops to keep himself in the White House and arrest or even kill his opponents?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:25:35am

There’s another thing about O’Rourke I like that the VF feature brought up. He’s a small business owner. When I was a paralegal, I helped publish a newsletter for small business owners. We should be looking at small business owners as potential political allies imo.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:26:05am
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:26:11am

re: #44 lawhawk

She’s probably a creationist but I’ve just not bothered to ring that bell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:27:12am

re: #21 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

I don’t think that our military will go with any order from Trump that is unconstitutional.

The well-regulated militias will be on his side…

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:27:27am

re: #21 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

I don’t think that our military will go with any order from Trump that is unconstitutional.

Considering how aggressive the alt-right has been about urging their acolytes to join the military, and considering how ignorant 3/4 of the country is about what is or isn’t constitutional… I wouldn’t want to place heavy odds on you being right.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:28:40am

re: #45 Scottish Dragon

Why didn’t he do it at the end of last year?

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:29:09am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The well-regulated militias will be on his side…

There are none. None of them are regulated, much less well regulated.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:29:42am

re: #51 Belafon

Why didn’t he do it at the end of last year?

Because he isn’t that desperate yet and he thinks he will win anyway.

If he loses…he is not going to leave office.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:29:42am

re: #45 Scottish Dragon

This is the big one: The one he can use to come after all of us and stop protests and arrest outspoken liberals.


Unilaterally at his own discretion.

Again, given that he just threatened this sort of thing today, does anybody think he won’t try use troops to keep himself in the White House and arrest or even kill his opponents?

It really disturbs me because he definitely was ready to do everything to delegitimize a Clinton victory. Hell we seen the lengths he goes to deny that he lost the popular vote. Imagine how he’ll take losing reelection. He may hate the hard parts of being President but he loves the power it’s given him.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:30:04am

The EU would need to approve the extension…. and that’s not a done deal (IIRC the EU side has said they’d need unanimous support to grant the extension).

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:30:50am

re: #43 Belafon

He traveled all over the state, multiple times, in 2017 and 2018. He built a network of people, and set up campaign offices in places that hadn’t seen a Democratic one before (for instance, Rockwall, which went 75% for Cruz, had a Beto office). He did a great job of increasing the numbers, as we saw by the turnout. And it wasn’t enough against Cruz. Now, try that against the number 2 in the Senate, who is liked by the GOP here.

There’s been a couple of polls out in January and February showing O’Rourke either tied or within a couple percentage points of Cornyn (and most importantly with Cornyn under 50%). So there’s at least a chance.

But moving Texas to “swing state” status is going to take a lot of effort up and down the Democratic Party - it’s going to take national help, state level, and local level, plus compelling candidates (plus activists outside the party structures). O’Rourke is a compelling candidate, and it seems he’s tilled the soil for grassroots support. The question is whether the party and activists are willing to spend resources there when everyone is also dedicated to defeating Trump and there are plenty of other targets that are closer than Texas.

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William Lewis  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:33:28am

re: #51 Belafon

Why didn’t he do it at the end of last year?

Because he knows, deep down, the military would laugh and say get fucked.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:33:28am

re: #45 Scottish Dragon

This is the big one: The one he can use to come after all of us and stop protests and arrest outspoken liberals.


Unilaterally at his own discretion.

Again, given that he just threatened this sort of thing today, does anybody think he won’t try use troops to keep himself in the White House and arrest or even kill his opponents?

I think he might TRY, but I don’t think he would succeed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:34:39am

re: #24 freetoken

Hillary Clinton fired some guy on her staff who promoted a birther narrative. That’s how wingnuts try to blame her for something that Trump pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed for three entire fucking years.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:35:07am

re: #50 sagehen

Considering how aggressively the alt-right has been about urging their acolytes to joint the military, and considering how ignorant 3/4 of the country is about what is or isn’t constitutional… I wouldn’t want to place heavy odds on you being right.

I just can’t accept that. Maybe that’s sticking my head in the sand, but I just can’t. I am hoping that he’s impeached before anything like that could happen in the first place.

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William Lewis  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:35:14am

Its Pi Day. Dessert?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:35:43am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary Clinton fired some guy on her staff who promoted a birther narrative. That’s how wingnuts try to blame her for something that Trump pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed for three entire fucking years.

Sounds like the same bs logic they use when they claim Obama used the n word.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:37:01am

re: #48 freetoken

She’s probably a creationist but I’ve just not bothered to ring that bell.

Are her kids vaccinated?

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:40:04am

re: #61 William Lewis

The centrifugal force in your neighborhood is fierce!

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:40:12am
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:41:23am

re: #55 lawhawk

The UK wants to be eternally half-pregnant.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:42:11am

re: #58 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

I think he might TRY, but I don’t think he would succeed.

National Guard is the big question mark. Texas, Kansas etc? Yeah, they just might have no problem cracking some heads and shooting a few hippies.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:42:33am

re: #66 freetoken

The UK wants to be eternally half-pregnant.

The EU wants a relationship, the UK is trying to just be friends with benefits.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:42:58am

WAIT, WHAT!

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nines09  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:43:01am

Out doing yard work and my daughter sends me this.
Thanks honey.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:43:27am

re: #66 freetoken

The UK wants to be eternally half-pregnant.

Brexit was sold on the premise of keeping out foreigners. They somehow overlook that the EU insists on free movement of people if they also want free movement of goods and capital.

Cake = Eat-or-Have Proposition

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William Lewis  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:43:40am

re: #64 jaunte

The centrifugal force in your neighborhood is fierce!

That’s what I get for eating on the merry go round :D

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:43:49am

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

WAIT, WHAT!

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Come on Beto.

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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:44:05am

I hope when the fat orange tyrant loses or is forced out of office he leaves without incident. I hope for this, but I really don’t expect it. What has he done to make anyone think he won’t attempt to use any means necessary to stay in power?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:44:52am

re: #70 nines09

Out doing yard work and my daughter sends me this.
Thanks honey.

Let us hope that that kaiju of an insect cannot get through the rubber seals

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:45:02am

re: #74 plansbandc

I hope when the fat orange tyrant loses or is forced out of office he leaves without incident. I hope for this, but I really don’t expect it. What has he done to make anyone think he won’t attempt to use any means necessary to stay in power?

What I’ve tried arguing in the past is Trump unlike his predecessors has no respect for democratic government.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:45:46am

re: #58 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

I think he might TRY, but I don’t think he would succeed.

The really big problem for him is that it would take a whole lot of people, like 80% of the government, to agree with him. And he’d have to get a number of governors and state legislatures to agree. And while Montana is conservative, troops showing up would be exactly what they don’t want the government to do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:46:08am

re: #76 HappyWarrior

What I’ve tried arguing in the past is Trump unlike his predecessors has no respect for democratic government.

he has no concept of it, either…

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:46:33am

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

WAIT, WHAT!

I will be writing him on this when I get home.

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:47:00am

re: #57 William Lewis

Because he knows, deep down, the military would laugh and say get fucked.

Or worse ignore him altogether

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:47:07am

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

WAIT, WHAT!

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His father in law is a real estate tycoon, so there might be gifts and trust funds in there that Beto would rather hide.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:47:21am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he has no concept of it, either…

Yep.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:47:24am

re: #67 Scottish Dragon

National Guard is the big question mark. Texas, Kansas etc? Yeah, they just might have no problem cracking some heads and shooting a few hippies.

I would also remind folks about National Guard at Kent State.

This exact sort of thing happened before.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:47:32am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Let us hope that that kaiju of an insect cannot get through the rubber seals

I was trying to place the plate. It has to be somewhere south, or a banana spider.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:47:33am

re: #74 plansbandc

I hope when the fat orange tyrant loses or is forced out of office he leaves without incident. I hope for this, but I really don’t expect it. What has he done to make anyone think he won’t attempt to use any means necessary to stay in power?

All of his “any means necessary” rely on a lot of other people to go along with it. As divided as we appear to be, I cannot imagine there is such a strong contingent of people within the government, at the federal, state, or local level that would go along with any antics if/when Trump loses fair and square.

We’re a long, long way from 1860.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:49:06am

re: #74 plansbandc

I hope when the fat orange tyrant loses or is forced out of office he leaves without incident. I hope for this, but I really don’t expect it. What has he done to make anyone think he won’t attempt to use any means necessary to stay in power?

He can’t fire anyone. His emergency declaration was done in the most cowardly way possible.

If he tries to overturn the election, Pelosi can run him out of office.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:50:10am
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Old Liberal  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:50:45am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

This lady is delusional.

Hence trumpista

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nines09  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:51:07am

Well back out to dig around and try and wake up a wolf spider or two…..

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William Lewis  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:51:46am

re: #83 Scottish Dragon

I would also remind folks about National Guard at Kent State.

This exact sort of thing happened before.

Same thing? Not even close. I have to go now, but a handful of incompetent officers, scared troops given ammo instead of bayonets is not the same as ordering them to form up and fire on unarmed civilians first thing.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:51:52am

Looks like Sanders is about to learn the difference between being an alternative choice in a small field and a frontrunner in a large field:

Bernie Sanders advocated for the nationalization of most major industries, including energy companies, factories, and banks, when he was a leading member of a self-described “radical political party” in the 1970s, a CNN KFile review of his record reveals.

Sanders’ past views shed light on a formative period of his political career that could become relevant as he advances in the 2020 Democratic primary.

Many of the positions he held at the time are more extreme compared to the more tempered democratic socialism the Vermont senator espouses today and could provide fodder for moderate Democrats and Republicans looking to cast the Democratic presidential candidate and his beliefs as a fringe form of socialism that would be harmful to the country.

I look forward to him explaining this without yelling at people…

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:52:29am
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:53:55am
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plansbandc  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:54:01am

re: #85 KGxvi

I hope you’re right. In the past 2 years we’ve seen and heard things I never expected from a “president”. He keeps pushing more each day and each day he gets less push back. I think he’s capable of anything and he would most certainly use all the powers granted to him by calling a National Emergency. I’m not sure he will ever retract the one he’s already called.

I want to be hopeful that shit won’t happen. But this guy is really fucking dangerous.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:54:46am

re: #91 KGxvi

Looks like Sanders is about to learn the difference between being an alternative choice in a small field and a frontrunner in a large field:

I look forward to him explaining this without yelling at people…

That’s what I tried telling them when his supporters acted like he was the “best candidate to run against Trump.0

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:55:21am

re: #86 Belafon

He can’t fire anyone. His emergency declaration was done in the most cowardly way possible.

If he tries to overturn the election, Pelosi can run him out of office.

She can go to the courts. He can declare he ignores the courts.

Up to this point, Trump has been violating laws with impunity. Emoluments, nepotism, evading Senate advise and consent and so on and so on.

As long as enough Republicans cover him, he will continue to simply ignore laws and violate them. There is no bottom, and McConnell will cover for Trump in any situation where Trump uses force to remain in office.

I don’t see how this get resolved peacefully at this point if my suspicions are correct and Trump goes full dictator to save his skin from prison.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:56:53am

re: #90 William Lewis

But it happened. You can’t get around that.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:57:05am

Beto seems to be a sore point for some:

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:57:52am

Wrong tweet… reload.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:59:47am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:59:48am

re: #98 freetoken

Beto seems to be a sore point for some:

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Yeah I like Klobuchar but that’s a state that is very reliably Democratic and she was an incumbent. Beto made Cruz sweat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 11:59:51am

re: #55 lawhawk

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The EU would need to approve the extension…. and that’s not a done deal (IIRC the EU side has said they’d need unanimous support to grant the extension).

and Farage is actively lobbying certain rightwing-leaning EU countries to not support an extension

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:02:41pm
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:04:23pm

re: #93 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

The vote was 59-41. That’s higher than I thought it would be.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:08:42pm

Ted Cruz 4,260,553 votes, 50.9%
Beto O’Rourke 4,045,632 votes, 48.3%

8,371,655 votes.

“Only about one in three Texans line up at the polls during midterm elections”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:08:43pm

re: #45 Scottish Dragon

This is the big one: The one he can use to come after all of us and stop protests and arrest outspoken liberals.


Unilaterally at his own discretion.

Again, given that he just threatened this sort of thing today, does anybody think he won’t try use troops to keep himself in the White House and arrest or even kill his opponents?

I’m with Stonekettle’s answer to trump earlier today: “See you in the streets motherfucker”

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:10:30pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

Where is motorcycle gang?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:10:37pm
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:11:37pm

re: #105 jaunte

Ted Cruz 4,260,553 votes, 50.9%
Beto O’Rourke 4,045,632 votes, 48.3%

8,371,655 votes.

“Only about one in three Texans line up at the polls during midterm elections”

IIRC, it was closer to 50% in this last election. But, yeah, Texas sucks at voting.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:13:15pm

re: #108 lawhawk

Wiki:

In the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Dawson endorsed U.S. Green Party Presidential Candidate Jill Stein, saying she could not support either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, as she felt they were for the elites

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:13:28pm

T- 1:30

nasa.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:15:49pm

re: #64 jaunte

The centrifugal force in your neighborhood is fierce!

it’s that inland cyclone…

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:16:36pm

re: #81 goddamnedfrank

His father in law is a real estate tycoon, so there might be gifts and trust funds in there that Beto would rather hide.

McCain solved that problem by never filing joint returns with his wife. All reporters knew about her finances was what they’d been able to figure out from other sources.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:18:36pm

All we are going to hear about Beto from right and left, is how he is less-than-perfect.

While the alternative is the perfect shit-toad of a President.

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William Lewis  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:18:38pm

re: #97 Scottish Dragon

But it happened. You can’t get around that.

So did the ACW. One of these things is not like the other…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:19:25pm

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All we are going to hear about Beto from right and left, is how he is less-than-perfect.

While the alternative is the perfect shit-toad of a President.

He’s not an ideologue. Good.

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:19:58pm

re: #96 Scottish Dragon

She can go to the courts. He can declare he ignores the courts.

Up to this point, Trump has been violating laws with impunity. Emoluments, nepotism, evading Senate advise and consent and so on and so on.

As long as enough Republicans cover him, he will continue to simply ignore laws and violate them. There is no bottom, and McConnell will cover for Trump in any situation where Trump uses force to remain in office.

I don’t see how this get resolved peacefully at this point if my suspicions are correct and Trump goes full dictator to save his skin from prison.

If you’re looking for some worst-case nightmare fodder…

How do you think the DC police, Secret Service etc would do up against Eric Prince’s private army?

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:20:03pm

Idai getting close to landfall:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:20:44pm

This fucking asshole idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:21:08pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

This fucking asshole idiot.

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Toddler in chief.

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:24:53pm

re: #110 freetoken

Wiki:

Oh. So Cory’s dating a dipshit.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:26:06pm

re: #121 sagehen

Oh. So Cory’s dating a dipshit.

Dawson is the same one who tried to Bernsplain to Dolores Huerta. Not a fan but it doesn’t change my opinion on Booker.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:26:21pm
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:26:47pm

re: #84 nines09

I was trying to place the plate. It has to be somewhere south, or a banana spider.

Looks like a Huntsman spider, so my first guess would be Australia.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:26:58pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

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He has a child’s idea of what POTUS should do.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:27:07pm

re: #121 sagehen

Oh. So Cory’s dating a dipshit.

But a pretty one, so there’s that I guess. She’s 10 years younger than Booker, not a problem to me (my ancestors usually did an even larger diff) but for some it may be a problem.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:28:44pm

re: #126 freetoken

But a pretty one, so there’s that I guess. She’s 10 years younger than Booker, not a problem to me (my ancestors usually did an even larger diff) but for some it may be a problem.

I can’t see why it would be. Melania is old enough to be Dumbald’s daughter but yeah my great grandfather was 11 years older than my great grandmother.

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William Lewis  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:29:32pm

re: #117 sagehen

If you’re looking for some worst-case nightmare fodder…

How do you think the DC police, Secret Service etc would do up against Eric Prince’s private army?

The Old Guard is still a combat regiment. They may do all the pretty things but in the end they are Infantry dedicated to the defense of DC.

Prince’s Pissants will need their brown pants on that day.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:31:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:32:29pm

re: #129 lawhawk

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Aww damn. Dees is and was a hero.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:32:37pm

re: #11 freetoken

It was Andy Martin that started the birther BS in 2004. Not Hillary or her campaign.

politico.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:34:11pm

re: #81 goddamnedfrank

His father in law is a real estate tycoon, so there might be gifts and trust funds in there that Beto would rather hide.

not a good enough excuse

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:36:08pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

Hopefully, he thinks that is all that’s required for a veto and then this resolution becomes law in 10 days

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Old Liberal  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:37:16pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

not a good enough excuse

I’ve had enough of hiding taxes. No taxes no vote from me. If you are playing loose around the edges fuck you. If you’re not ashamed show them.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:38:15pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

This lady is delusional.

There is a lot of delusion going on today.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:38:18pm

I see that Cory Gardner doesn’t seem to understand what the role of Congress is within our constitutional system:

Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), another vulnerable incumbent up for re-election next year, also voted against the resolution. He said in a statement after the vote that he stood with Trump because “in the absence of Congressional action, the President did what Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer refused to do.”

Congress acted, Senator. You were there for the votes. Congress considered Trump’s proposal for a wall - multiple times - and decided each and every time that they did not want to authorize building a wall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:38:19pm

re: #90 William Lewis

Same thing? Not even close. I have to go now, but a handful of incompetent officers, scared troops given ammo instead of bayonets is not the same as ordering them to form up and fire on unarmed civilians first thing.

Agree.
MrBWS’s sister (who is a year older than me) was a freshman at Kent State and was on campus that day.
We here are intimately familiar with Kent State. Those kids had no warning at all of what was about to come down on them.
Totally different situation today.

Not even apples and oranges.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:40:04pm

re: #136 KGxvi

I see that Cory Gardner doesn’t seem to understand what the role of Congress is within our constitutional system:

Congress acted, Senator. You were there for the votes. Congress considered Trump’s proposal for a wall - multiple times - and decided each and every time that they did not want to authorize building a wall.

He knows. He just thinks because Trump is a Republican, Congress has to agree to do whatever he wants.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:43:39pm

re: #57 William Lewis

Because he knows, deep down, the military would laugh and say get fucked.

Someone has to protect the Constitution.

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steve_davis  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:45:15pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

So this National Emergency thing. Is there enough votes for a veto override?

no.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:51:34pm

re: #124 Dr Lizardo

Looks like a Huntsman spider, so my first guess would be Australia.

I thought it looked more like a Giant Crab Spider, those can be bad.
We have little ones here in eastern Kentucky and they are actually a beneficial spider for pest control.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:53:26pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Come on Beto.

This is the kind of thing I am worried about with Beto.

Points off for that tax return crap. He should know better considering how big a thing it is with Democrats and how much people were hoping the Democrats won so they could demand them. That is completely tone deaf.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:54:40pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

This is the kind of thing I am worried about with Beto.

Points off for that tax return crap. He should know better considering how big a thing it is with Democrats and how much people were hoping the Democrats won so they could demand them. That is completely tone deaf.

I’m curious how many have been asked and how many have released them.

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gwangung  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:55:07pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

This is the kind of thing I am worried about with Beto.

Points off for that tax return crap. He should know better considering how big a thing it is with Democrats and how much people were hoping the Democrats won so they could demand them. That is completely tone deaf.

Some folks might think that’s a piece with his refusal to endorse another Democrat for Congress. That allowed the current Rep. Hurd to win by less than a thousand votes.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:55:11pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

Claiming “he hasn’t thought about it” is also bullshit. Very disappointing.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:55:12pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

The Primary process will sort out the field.

I expect many surprises along the way.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:55:22pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

This is the kind of thing I am worried about with Beto.

Points off for that tax return crap. He should know better considering how big a thing it is with Democrats and how much people were hoping the Democrats won so they could demand them. That is completely tone deaf.

Agreed. I criticized Bernie for his attitude on his taxes and I will Beto here too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:55:47pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

Asked if he’ll release his tax returns, Beto O’Rourke says, “I don’t know. I don’t know…I literally haven’t thought about it.”

If he started to campaign without giving that a bit of thought, then I have to wonder.

On the other hand, if he is running against Trump, he cannot really be taken to task for it.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:56:27pm
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:57:04pm

I plan on writing him somewhere tonight and poling him about it, but has the question been asked for Harris, Warren, and the others?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:57:58pm

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If he started to campaign without giving that a bit of thought, then I have to wonder.

On the other hand, if he is running against Trump, he cannot really be taken to task for it.

He can. Trump’s actions or there lack of shouldn’t be what we measure ourselves on. If the GOP hits him on it, yes but since he’s a Democratic candidate and not the nominee, he absolutely should be taken to task for it and I say that as a tentative supporter.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:58:31pm

re: #150 Belafon

I plan on writing him somewhere tonight and poling him about it, but has the question been asked for Harris, Warren, and the others?

I know Bernie was and he threw Jane under the bus.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:59:19pm

re: #94 plansbandc

I hope you’re right. In the past 2 years we’ve seen and heard things I never expected from a “president”. He keeps pushing more each day and each day he gets less push back. I think he’s capable of anything and he would most certainly use all the powers granted to him by calling a National Emergency. I’m not sure he will ever retract the one he’s already called.

I want to be hopeful that shit won’t happen. But this guy is really fucking dangerous.

What national emergency has he already called?

He’s dancing around one, and he just got a bipartisan vote against him. He is running his mouth more and more and losing Republicans now too.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 12:59:54pm

re: #144 gwangung

Some folks might think that’s a piece with his refusal to endorse another Democrat for Congress. That allowed the current Rep. Hurd to win by less than a thousand votes.

Yeah definitely. I believe Hurd is a personal friend of his but still. I love my best friend like a brother but man I would never want him or tbh my actual brothers in Congress.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:00:44pm

re: #43 Belafon

He traveled all over the state, multiple times, in 2017 and 2018. He built a network of people, and set up campaign offices in places that hadn’t seen a Democratic one before (for instance, Rockwall, which went 75% for Cruz, had a Beto office). He did a great job of increasing the numbers, as we saw by the turnout. And it wasn’t enough against Cruz. Now, try that against the number 2 in the Senate, who is liked by the GOP here.

THANK YOU.

A Dem does not beat Cornyn. Period. He is too popular.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:01:42pm

re: #145 jaunte

Claiming “he hasn’t thought about it” is also bullshit. Very disappointing.

Yeah. I mean he ought to know Trump’s lack of transparency is an issue. If we can’t hold ourselves to a standard on that, how can we Trump? Beto botched that. It doesn’t disqualify him for me but it’s worthy of criticism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:02:22pm

Got a high wind warning until 8 pm issued.
The gusts are shaking the house.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:02:42pm

re: #124 Dr Lizardo

Looks like a Huntsman spider, so my first guess would be Australia.

Might be. Did a quick lookup and they are worldwide.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:03:11pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

What national emergency has he already called?

He’s dancing around one, and he just got a bipartisan vote against him. He is running his mouth more and more and losing Republicans now too.

He’s only survived because there isn’t a veto proof majority. He’ll either have to deal with those if he keeps on vetoing that or hopefully become a former president.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:04:01pm

I’m glad we can talk about candidates even ones we like btw like this. I like Beto but he’s not beyond criticism. No one is.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:08:54pm

Trump’s ignoring the law, that a bipartisan Congress smacked him down, and his supporters don’t care. The GOP doesn’t care.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:09:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:09:46pm

re: #161 lawhawk

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Trump’s ignoring the law, that a bipartisan Congress smacked him down, and his supporters don’t care. The GOP doesn’t care.

I can’t wait for that worthless asshole to be another angry douche on Twitter.

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ckkatz  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:14:02pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought it looked more like a Giant Crab Spider, those can be bad.
We have little ones here in eastern Kentucky and they are actually a beneficial spider for pest control.

Sounds like the same critter:

Huntsman spiders, members of the family Sparassidae (formerly Heteropodidae), are known by this name because of their speed and mode of hunting. They also are called giant crab spiders because of their size and appearance.

Also:

More than a thousand Sparassidae species occur in most warm temperate to tropical regions of the world, including much of Australasia, Africa, Asia, the Mediterranean Basin, and the Americas.

en.wikipedia.org

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:15:19pm

re: #96 Scottish Dragon

There is no bottom, and McConnell will cover for Trump in any situation where Trump uses force to remain in office.

You say that with such certainty. How do you know that?

Mitch is already in his own issues because of sucking off Trump. Mitch may be gone at election time next year as there is good speculation he may retire because he can’t control Trump and just doesn’t need it. He either faces Trump or Democrats and that may just be too much lose-lose for even Mitch.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:16:41pm

So Beto has just opened the door for almost any Presidential candidate to not release their tax returns.

This is not a new normal I approve of.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:17:55pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

So Beto has just opened the door for almost any Presidential candidate to not release their tax returns.

This is not a new normal I approve of.

It depends how the others respond. If I’m his opponents, I release mine and then urge Beto to release his as a show of collective transparency.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:18:47pm

I blame Trump and Bernie tho more than I do Beto here but Beto should release his.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:20:43pm

JFC

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:21:56pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

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Imagine Tim Geithner doing that for Obama. And the response.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:22:04pm

re: #129 lawhawk

Southern Poverty Law Center fires co-founder Morris Dees

Watch for Blue-on-Blue ratfucking.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:22:22pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

So Beto has just opened the door for almost any Presidential candidate to not release their tax returns.

This is not a new normal I approve of.

Beto didn’t open it. I think every candidate should have to, but neither Trump nor Sanders released their returns last time. And I don’t really think many other candidates have.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:22:44pm

re: #171 Decatur Deb

Watch for Blue-on-Blue ratfucking.

What? There are liberals who hate the SPLC? Pray tell, WHY?

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:22:58pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

Um, Congress can ask for anyone’s returns.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:25:13pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

What? There are liberals who hate the SPLC? Pray tell, WHY?

Internal power struggle, with the chance of infiltration. This serves no one but the alt-assholes.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:27:19pm
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danarchy  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:28:21pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

So this National Emergency thing. Is there enough votes for a veto override?

nope

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:28:23pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

Internal power struggle, with the chance of infiltration. This serves no one but the alt-assholes.

Fuck. That’s a shame.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:29:42pm

re: #174 Belafon

Um, Congress can ask for anyone’s returns.

Mnunchin and this is where I certainly do blame Trump sees his job as serving Trump and not the American people. Trump’s tax records are pertinent to a criminal investigation.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:30:12pm

re: #172 Belafon

Beto didn’t open it. I think every candidate should have to, but neither Trump nor Sanders released their returns last time. And I don’t really think many other candidates have.

Most contenders and nominees have going back to the 1970s. But how much they release is up to them. In 1980, Reagan (who had long opposed release tax returns) released his returns for 1979. Romney released two years of returns in 2012. Usually, it’s a non-event in the context of a primary or general election. It can tell us a little bit about the candidate’s life (based on various deductions). And it might briefly spark a discussion about the tax code (especially if someone’s effective rate is very low). But I’m not sure most voters really care.

In the case of Trump, given his failure to divest from his businesses and general corruption, it makes sense that they should at least be provided to Congress per the law.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:31:41pm

re: #180 KGxvi

Someone pointed out on Daily Kos that Obama didn’t release his returns until May or June of 2008, after he had effectively secured the nomination.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:34:01pm

re: #180 KGxvi

And I meant candidates this time around. Clinton tried to be a serious exception, opening up her tax returns for 30 years and the foundations records, and people still claim she took a salary from the foundation.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:34:02pm

re: #181 Belafon

Someone pointed out on Daily Kos that Obama didn’t release his returns until May or June of 2008, after he had effectively secured the nomination.

That was before Trump. That said. Beto can still get this right imo.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:34:50pm

re: #182 Belafon

And I meant candidates this time around. Clinton tried to be a serious exception, opening up her tax returns for 30 years and the foundations records, and people still claim she took a salary from the foundation.

She didn’t get enough credit for being transparent and people were still convinced she was crooked.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:34:50pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

That was before Trump. That said. Beto can still get this right imo.

Agree on both. Trump has changed the rules for me. Has Harris been asked, though?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:35:27pm

re: #185 Belafon

Agree on both. Trump has changed the rules for me. Has Harris been asked, though?

I’m not sure. She should be.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:37:38pm

re: #185 Belafon

Agree on both. Trump has changed the rules for me. Has Harris been asked, though?

She released her 2015 returns when she ran for the Senate in 2016. So she at least has a history of doing so.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:38:01pm

re: #182 Belafon

And I meant candidates this time around. Clinton tried to be a serious exception, opening up her tax returns for 30 years and the foundations records, and people still claim she took a salary from the foundation.

Everything that wingnuts claimed (falsely) about the Clinton Foundation turned out to be actually true about the Trump Foundation.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:40:06pm

re: #187 KGxvi

She released her 2015 returns when she ran for the Senate in 2016. So she at least has a history of doing so.

That’s cool. I like Harris and Beto, but I want to make sure that every candidate is treated equally. Going after Beto for this without going after the other candidates smacks of desperation and the attempt to create controversy.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:41:03pm

re: #189 Belafon

That’s cool. I like Harris and Beto, but I want to make sure that every candidate is treated equally. Going after Beto for this without going after the other candidates smacks of desperation and the attempt to create controversy.

And don’t forget Sanders.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:42:33pm

re: #143 Belafon

I’m curious how many have been asked and how many have released them.

I will hold all of them to the same need to show their taxes.

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gwangung  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:43:25pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

I will hold all of them to the same need to show their taxes.

Agreed. All of them.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:44:08pm

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If he started to campaign without giving that a bit of thought, then I have to wonder.

On the other hand, if he is running against Trump, he cannot really be taken to task for it.

Whut???

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:46:38pm

re: #189 Belafon

That’s cool. I like Harris and Beto, but I want to make sure that every candidate is treated equally. Going after Beto for this without going after the other candidates smacks of desperation and the attempt to create controversy.

Absolutely.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:47:35pm

re: #155 BlueGrl21

THANK YOU.

A Dem does not beat Cornyn. Period. He is too popular.

I understand the points you Texans are making.

But as an outsider I sure do not understand why Cornyn is that popular. He just seems to be a guy that does me-too Republican votes and stands lovingly next to Mitch in photos.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:47:52pm

re: #193 ObserverArt

Whut???

Basically Trump not doing means it shouldn’t be a problem which I think is naive since the GOP shameless assholes they are would go after him for this. As I said, I’m probably with Beto right now but Trump should not be our measuring stick for how we measure our candidates.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:48:15pm

re: #195 ObserverArt

I understand the points you Texans are making.

But as an outsider I sure do not understand why Cornyn is that popular. He just seems to be a guy that does me-too Republican votes and stands lovingly next to Mitch in photos.

As leadership, he’s able to bring home bacon. That’s my guess from a non-Texan pov.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:48:57pm

re: #195 ObserverArt

I understand the points you Texans are making.

But as an outsider I sure do not understand why Cornyn is that popular. He just seems to be a guy that does me-too Republican votes and stands lovingly next to Mitch in photos.

Then you understand.

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:51:06pm

re: #172 Belafon

Beto didn’t open it. I think every candidate should have to, but neither Trump nor Sanders released their returns last time. And I don’t really think many other candidates have.

Every nominee since Richard Nixon, from both parties, has released their tax returns. Until Trump.

During the primaries, it’s not so unanimous.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:51:48pm

re: #198 Belafon

Then you understand.

Which I think is why Cruz was vulnerable. He’s all about Ted and advancing Ted. Cornyn is a loyal GOP foot soldier. That kind of type is a lot harder to beat IMO.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:52:33pm

re: #199 sagehen

Every nominee since Richard Nixon, from both parties, has released their tax returns. Until Trump.

During the primaries, it’s not so unanimous.

Yeah, I wasn’t quite clear enough. I meant the other Democratic candidates that have announced for this election cycle.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:57:03pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Which I think is why Cruz was vulnerable. He’s all about Ted and advancing Ted. Cornyn is a loyal GOP foot soldier. That kind of type is a lot harder to beat IMO.

He was as vulnerable as a Republican senator could be here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:57:25pm

re: #185 Belafon

Agree on both. Trump has changed the rules for me. Has Harris been asked, though?

Harris released her returns in 2016 when she was running for Senate, her opponent Sanchez did not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:57:51pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

So Beto has just opened the door for almost any Presidential candidate to not release their tax returns.

This is not a new normal I approve of.

Trump opened that door, Beto is just putting his foot in the doorway.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:57:57pm

Fuuuuuuccckkkkkk:

On Thursday, two long-range rockets fired from Gaza streaked toward Tel Aviv, one of Israel’s largest cities. And although no casualties or property damage have been reported so far, Israel is likely to respond forcefully.

Which means an already roiling crisis in the Middle East is likely to deepen.

Red alert sirens indicating incoming rockets sounded in Tel Aviv indicating the first time that the city was a target since 2014. That year, Israel and Gaza engaged in brutal, weeks-long fighting. The Israeli military said its missile defense system, Iron Dome, was launched to intercept the rockets, although it’s unclear if an interception actually took place. The video below shows Iron Dome interceptors flying through the night sky over Tel Aviv, but they self-destructed because an interception was unnecessary.

Because things can’t get any more insane right now….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:58:25pm

re: #205 lawhawk

Fuuuuuuccckkkkkk:

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Because things can’t get any more insane right now….

that’s what Bibi has been waiting for…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:58:41pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

WATCH: Treasury Secretary Mnuchin says government will shield Trump’s tax returns, same as any taxpayer’s

any taxpayers who make political decisions that directly affect their fortunes…of course.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 1:58:59pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I blame Trump and Bernie tho more than I do Beto here but Beto should release his.

Sorry, do not agree.

This is a big mistake from Beto and right out of the gate. I blame Beto. Period.

This really bothers me. It kind of shows he might be off in the clouds a bit and not really paying attention to what is an important issue.

Maybe it is not a big issue to Beto…and if that is the case it is even more bothersome.

He needs to get out the repair kit…pronto!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:00:27pm

re: #208 ObserverArt

Sorry, do not agree.

This is a big mistake from Beto and right out of the gate. I blame Beto. Period.

This really bothers me. It kind of shows he might be off in the clouds a bit and not really paying attention to what is an important issue.

Maybe it is not a big issue to Beto…and if that is the case it is even more bothersome.

He needs to get out the repair kit…pronto!

Agree to disagree but I do agree his “Hadn’t thought about it” was a poor response. It’s fair criticism btw.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:00:30pm

So, my taxes are done… and my refund was down significantly. My tax bill was also higher (due mostly to caps on SALT) - I can still itemize, but it wasn’t as much as prior years. So even with the withholding changes and so called tax cuts, I paid more in tax.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:02:00pm

re: #210 lawhawk

That “extra” $4 is going to be delicious.
thrillist.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:04:40pm

My spirit animal.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:04:53pm

So..to change the subject a little:

Obama was a MUSLIN!!! because his father was, and MUSLIN!!! = TERRIST!!!! Kamala Harris’ mother is Tamil. Do you suppose the wingnuts know enough to bring up the Tamil Tigers?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:06:16pm

Do not expect Trump to accept the results of the election next year if he loses.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:06:24pm

re: #210 lawhawk

So, my taxes are done… and my refund was down significantly. My tax bill was also higher (due mostly to caps on SALT) - I can still itemize, but it wasn’t as much as prior years. So even with the withholding changes and so called tax cuts, I paid more in tax.

I actually got quite a bit back, much more than I expected, even with the SALT caps because I ended up giving much more to charity (for reasons unrelated to the tax changes), so my itemized deductions were more. But I got back a little less than in prior years. I probably gained overall—I’d have to balance the slightly lower return with the slightly higher bump I got in my paychecks.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:06:28pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

Harris released her returns in 2016 when she was running for Senate, her opponent Sanchez did not.

Warren has put 10 years worth of tax returns online

Elizabeth Warren Says All 2020 Presidential Candidates Should Release Tax Returns

“I put the past 10 years of my federal tax returns online,” Warren wrote. “And now I’m calling on every other candidate for President to do exactly the same thing. Add your name to our petition calling on all 2020 presidential candidates to put their taxes online.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:07:16pm

re: #210 lawhawk

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So, my taxes are done… and my refund was down significantly. My tax bill was also higher (due mostly to caps on SALT) - I can still itemize, but it wasn’t as much as prior years. So even with the withholding changes and so called tax cuts, I paid more in tax.

I haven’t even started our taxes yet because I know we are going to owe a lot, maybe thousands.
But I really can’t be bothered with that right now because I’m so worried about my little dog. I can not fathom HOW she is still alive when she hasn’t had any real measurable amount of food in more than a week. And gaining weight!

Today’s progress report from the animal hospital is there has been no vomiting since one time on Tuesday night, but she’s still on IV fluids. Today she is much stronger, very alert, and visiting all over the hospital. They are going to try to introduce food/water by mouth to her tomorrow. Food was a no-go for her today, but maybe tomorrow.

Oh, and it appears that she has some early stage Sundowners/dementia. But then she is 17 years old and that’s pretty elderly even for a Jack Russell Terror.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:09:13pm

re: #214 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Do not expect Trump to accept the results of the election next year if he loses.

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Never thought I’d see the day where an American president would tout the support of guys with SS tattoos. This is why Trump is uniquely dangerous compared to his predecessors.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:09:27pm

re: #185 Belafon

Agree on both. Trump has changed the rules for me. Has Harris been asked, though?

Aren’t you wondering why Beto was asked? There may be a reason he was. Maybe someone already knows this might be an issue.

This was such a big thing last election. I would expect all Democrats to know that.

And I bet others will be asked now.

Just found this…might give a hint.

Sacramento Bee - Kamala Harris, husband release 2015 tax returns; Loretta Sanchez declines

U.S. Senate candidate Kamala Harris and her husband, attorney Douglas Emhoff, earned nearly $1.17 million in 2015 and paid almost $450,000 in state and federal income taxes, according to their 2015 tax returns.

The Sacramento Bee asked Harris and her opponent, Democratic Rep. Loretta Sanchez of Orange County, to provide copies of their 2015 returns as part of a longstanding practice of reviewing candidates’ financial records in major statewide races. Sanchez’s campaign has declined.

…more at link…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:09:34pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haven’t even started our taxes yet because I know we are going to owe a lot, maybe thousands.
But I really can’t be bothered with that right now because I’m so worried about my little dog. I can not fathom HOW she is still alive when she hasn’t had any real measurable amount of food in more than a week. And gaining weight!

Today’s progress report from the animal hospital is there has been no vomiting since one time on Tuesday night, but she’s still in IV fluids. Today she is much stronger, very alert, and visiting all over the hospital. They are going to try to introduce food/water by mouth to her tomorrow. Food was a no-go for her today, but maybe tomorrow.

Oh, and it appears that she has some early stage Sundowners/dementia. But then she is 17 years old and that’s pretty elderly even for a Jack Russell Terror.

Oh, sorry to hear about your doggie, hope he hangs in there and gives you much more time.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:09:55pm

re: #216 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Warren has put 10 years worth of tax returns online

Elizabeth Warren Says All 2020 Presidential Candidates Should Release Tax Returns

“I put the past 10 years of my federal tax returns online,” Warren wrote. “And now I’m calling on every other candidate for President to do exactly the same thing. Add your name to our petition calling on all 2020 presidential candidates to put their taxes online.”

Warren gets a plus one for me for that. I like Warren. I just like her more as a Senator than possible President but I like her.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:10:04pm

re: #187 KGxvi

She released her 2015 returns when she ran for the Senate in 2016. So she at least has a history of doing so.

Dammit! I shoulda knowed! You beat me to it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:11:21pm

re: #210 lawhawk

I am getting a good chunk of $ back, only because of the federal EV tax credit of $7500 when I bought the Tesla, which I had to sell a bunch of stocks for (which counts as income). Next year will most likely be a different story.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:11:32pm

re: #215 Sir John Barron

Of course if I had given as much to charity in 2017 as I did in 2018 I would have done much better last year as well.

But I was expecting a much smaller return this year so I was pleasantly surprised. Put it to good use.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:11:46pm

re: #198 Belafon

Then you understand.

Figures!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:15:25pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Never thought I’d see the day where an American president would tout the support of guys with SS tattoos. This is why Trump is uniquely dangerous compared to his predecessors.

“good people on both sides”

/

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:16:24pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Agree to disagree but I do agree his “Hadn’t thought about it” was a poor response. It’s fair criticism btw.

In this particular political climate we need every t crossed and i dotted.

This was an easy answer. And I am speaking totally for myself here. What bothers me is it was such an easy answer. I don’t get it.

Dropping it now. Watching how it is handled from this point.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:16:34pm

re: #226 Sir John Barron

“good people on both sides”

/

Yep. The motherfucker said that after one of the “fine people” on the one side killed another. And then this asshole has the nerve to call my party Antisemitic and thinks he can hide behind his sleazy son in law and daughter being Jewish to dodge the truth that he’s an Antisemitic pig.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:16:50pm

Well it’s turned rather balmy here in the Mid-Atlantic region today. Working from home and got the sliding glass door open.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:18:27pm

re: #227 ObserverArt

In this particular political climate we need every t crossed and i dotted.

This was an easy answer. And I am speaking totally for myself here. What bothers me is it was such an easy answer. I don’t get it.

Dropping it now. Watching how it is handled from this point.

I totally hear ya on all counts. I hope he rebounds from it but I agree he botched it.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:18:28pm

re: #214 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Do not expect Trump to accept the results of the election next year if he loses.

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Are those real bikers or Sunday bikers?

There is a huge difference.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:18:48pm

re: #220 Sir John Barron

Oh, sorry to hear about your doggie, hope he hangs in there and gives you much more time.

I’ve pretty much accepted the fact that Daisy and I are going through the long goodbye. Something happened last week late Thursday afternoon where she suddenly started panting and shaking heavily.
We had a winter storm just started to move in and folks were told to stay off the roads.
Daisy’s panting and shaking lasted until 4 am Friday then stopped as suddenly as it started.

Then, later on Friday, the vomiting began.

And it never stopped. Until now that she’s at the animal hospital so they can see first hand what we’ve been dealing with.

If this doesn’t work then I’m sadly ready to let her go. Other options are exploratory surgery or sending her to a vet specialist in Lexington for an endoscopy and other invasive tests.

She is ~17 years old. I got her 15-16 years ago as a rescue when the local humane society called one day asking if I could take in a beagle mix to foster and prep for adoption. They showed up 30 minutes later and I said “that is NOT a beagle”. Good grief, the wee dog had springs for legs!

She has lived here with us in TheBackwoods ever since.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:19:45pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

Are those real bikers or Sunday bikers?

There is a huge difference.

My uncle has been biking for over 50 years now. He posts anti Trump stuff all the time hahaha. He doesn’t look like your typical biker and I have infinite more tattoos but he’s a legitimate biker.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:19:56pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve pretty much accepted the fact that Daisy and I are going through the long goodbye. Something happened last week late Thursday afternoon where she suddenly started panting and shaking heavily.
We had a winter storm just started to move in and folks were told to stay off the roads.
Daisy’s panting and shaking lasted until 4 am Friday then stopped as suddenly as it started.

Then, later on Friday, the vomiting began.

And it never stopped. Until now that she’s at the animal hospital so they can see first hand what we’ve been dealing with.

If this doesn’t work then I’m sadly ready to let her go. Other options are exploratory surgery or sending her to a vet specialist in Lexington for an endoscopy and other invasive tests.

She is ~17 years old. I got her 15-16 years ago as a rescue when the local humane society called one day asking if I could take in a beagle mix to foster and prep for adoption. They showed up 30 minutes later and I said “that is NOT a beagle”. Good grief, the wee dog had springs for legs!

She has lived here with us in TheBackwoods ever since.

{{{sniff}}}

Glad you’ve had her for so long.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:20:15pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

Are those real bikers or Sunday bikers?

There is a huge difference.

wannabee badasses.

as in…we got ourselves some badasses here…

(I can’t find that pic/gif)

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:21:31pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

wannabee badasses.

as in…we got ourselves some badasses here…

(I can’t find that pic/gif)

Oh are we having another Operation American Spring to rid us of the Deep State?

/

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:23:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:23:58pm

re: #234 Sir John Barron

{{{sniff}}}

Glad you’ve had her for so long.

me, too.
I just don’t see any reason, at her age, to put her through the torture of the other options, even though I can afford it.

I know that I am so very fortunate that cost is not in any way a deciding factor (been there, done that earlier in life). I just want a good quality of life and dignified/unpainful walk to the Rainbow Bridge for her.

(and oh, how I dearly wish that the Rainbow Bridge was a real thing…)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:26:06pm

OT but I’ve been watching a lot of interesting TV set in one of my favorite time periods to read and learn about. WWI and its aftermath. We often hear about the Greatest Generation and their heroics in the Depression and WWII but I feel so little about their parents, the men and women who shaped them. I just got done watching Rebellion, an Irish series about the Irish Easter Rising and later Irish War of Independence and right now I’m watching Road to Cavalry, a Russian miniseries based off a novel about two sisters caught up in the Russian drama from 1914-the victory of the Reds in the USSR. I’m thinking a lot about my grandparents’ parents. 8 men and women I never got ot know.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:27:36pm

re: #237 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Google announces an employee has calculated Pi out to 31,415,926,535,897 decimal places. Happy Pi day!

I figured this out once just for the hell of it. If you could somehow measure the diameter of the observable universe at any given moment to the nearest Planck Length, and wanted to calculate its circumference, again to the nearest Planck Length, you’d only have to know π to 61 decimal places.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:29:41pm

re: #240 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I figured this out once just for the hell of it. If you could somehow measure the diameter of the observable universe at any given moment to the nearest Planck Length, and wanted to calculate its circumference, again to the nearest Planck Length, you’d only have to know π to 61 decimal places.

Nerd!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:33:28pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

OT but I’ve been watching a lot of interesting TV set in one of my favorite time periods to read and learn about. WWI and its aftermath. We often hear about the Greatest Generation and their heroics in the Depression and WWII but I feel so little about their parents, the men and women who shaped them. I just got done watching Rebellion, an Irish series about the Irish Easter Rising and later Irish War of Independence and right now I’m watching Road to Cavalry, a Russian miniseries based off a novel about two sisters caught up in the Russian drama from 1914-the victory of the Reds in the USSR. I’m thinking a lot about my grandparents’ parents. 8 men and women I never got ot know.

I watched the first of the Irish series. Watched a little of the second. Totally didn’t know any of that stuff.

Also, unrelated, I bought a recent biography on HH I thought you might like.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:36:23pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

me, too.
I just don’t see any reason, at her age, to put her through the torture of the other options, even though I can afford it.

I know that I am so very fortunate that cost is not in any way a deciding factor (been there, done that earlier in life). I just want a good quality of life and dignified/unpainful walk to the Rainbow Bridge for her.

(and oh, how I dearly wish that the Rainbow Bridge was a real thing…)

I’m so sorry about Daisy. I know how hard it is. You’re a good (doggy) Mommy—-you’ll do the best thing for her, even though it’ll hurt. {{{BWS}}}

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fern01  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:38:02pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

I can’t see why it would be. Melania is old enough to be Dumbald’s daughter but yeah my great grandfather was 11 years older than my great grandmother.

You forget - the rules are different for democrats

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:39:28pm

re: #244 fern01

You forget - the rules are different for democrats

INOKIYAD

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:39:35pm

re: #244 fern01

You forget - the rules are different for democrats

No, the rule is half your age plus 7 years. That’s the line for creepy.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:41:48pm

I’m not sure where this guy is going here, but I said Thx U.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:43:35pm

re: #247 Dave In Austin

I’m not sure where this guy is going here, but I said Thx U.

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Neck beard…. Good troll.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:44:34pm

re: #242 Sir John Barron

I watched the first of the Irish series. Watched a little of the second. Totally didn’t know any of that stuff.

Also, unrelated, I bought a recent biography on HH I thought you might like.

Thanks. I’ll tackle that one. Right now I’m reading about the Platanglets. Going with a Da Vinci bio next but I’ll definitely squeeze that one in. But yeah when I was in Dublin, I went on a tour of the Rising sites. Very fascinating stuff.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:45:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:46:27pm

re: #250 MsJ

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Yeah maybe we should have a President that reads. What a terrible thing Fox and Friends. What’s the matter? Afraid the next president is going to be someone who doesn’t want your “sage advice” because your opinion is worth shit to anyone with a brain in this coutnry.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:47:12pm

re: #15 jaunte

“I’m not THAT kind of a history teacher!”

FIFY

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:47:43pm

Nancy Pelosi followed me on Twitter!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:51:04pm

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

Nancy Pelosi followed me on Twitter!

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Dang, VB. You’ve made it now!

I wonder if she likes pie…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:52:17pm

re: #254 Eclectic Cyborg

Dang, VB. You’ve made it now!

I wonder if she likes pie…

Being a native Marylander, she probably is partial to Smith Island Cake but VB does bake some fine looking pies.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:52:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:52:37pm

re: #243 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m so sorry about Daisy. I know how hard it is. You’re a good (doggy) Mommy—-you’ll do the best thing for her, even though it’ll hurt. {{{BWS}}}

She scheduled to be coming home on Saturday morning … unless there is a really good reason for her to stay at the hospital.
I’ll not stick with an arbitrary deadline if the positive facts determine otherwise.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:52:54pm

re: #256 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Thanks Obama. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:55:16pm

re: #256 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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It was already reported earlier this morning that the black boxes were being sent to France

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:55:16pm

This is why I hate wingnuts btw. Senator Warner introduced some legislation to improve reliable access to what are called food deserts. Basically places where the only opitions available to eat are junk food and a bunch of wingnuts are scoffing at it. Yet they’ll be the same people who will bitch if they have to “pay” for lower income people having government subsidized health care that will have to be paid early since poor eating impacts your health.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:55:39pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was already reported earlier this morning that the black boxes were being sent to France

Macron has shown he can be trusted. Trump cannot.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:55:43pm

re: #256 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2019 • 2:58:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:00:09pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

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So the HAW is now the HEAW- the Hot Ex-Asian Wife. I know she’s supposed to be as terrible as he is ideologically but I can’t begin to express how creepy it was that he referred to her that way.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:00:42pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:01:12pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

He “won” by forcing way too many of us to know his name.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:01:46pm

re: #265 Eric The Fruit Bat

thanks, always an excellent response for times like this

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:07:23pm

re: #266 KGxvi

He “won” by forcing way too many of us to know his name.

Jacob Wohl makes CCJ look brilliant. I’m sure someone will come around and do the same for Jacob though.

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:07:59pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

So the HAW is now the HEAW- the Hot Ex-Asian Wife. I know she’s supposed to be as terrible as he is ideologically but I can’t begin to express how creepy it was that he referred to her that way.

HAEW…it flows better when written out.

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Jay C  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:08:22pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

This is why I hate wingnuts btw. Senator Warner introduced some legislation to improve reliable access to what are called food deserts. Basically places where the only opitions available to eat are junk food and a bunch of wingnuts are scoffing at it. Yet they’ll be the same people who will bitch if they have to “pay” for lower income people having government subsidized health care that will have to be paid early since poor eating impacts your health.

I really don’t know what it is about wingnuts and food/dietary issues: the whitey-righties are usually the first ones to scoff at the perceived bad eating habits of “the poor” - i.e. nonwhite poors - yet will bristle violently at any suggestion that they ought to curtail their own over-consumption of fatty-salty-sugary-preservative-laden fast food/junk food: usually in the name of “freedom”.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:08:26pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

Jacob Wohl makes CCJ look brilliant. I’m sure someone will come around and do the same for Jacob though.

O’Keefe is in that realm, too. A lot of look-at-me-stupidity going around the wingularity.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:08:37pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

thanks, always an excellent response for times like this

We had to put my mother’s Scottish Terrier Emma on the Rainbow Bridge last year.

And my petulant rescued Persian Ozzie is nearing his 16th birthday, which is real good, considering that all the snub-nose cats (Persian, Himalayan, Exotic Shorthair) usually don’t make it this far due to polycystic kidney disease (PKD)…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:08:45pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

Jacob Wohl makes CCJ look brilliant. I’m sure someone will come around and do the same for Jacob though.

Wohl and Loomer make the perfect absolutely no-power couple.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:10:26pm

re: #270 Jay C

I really don’t know what it is about wingnuts and food/dietary issues: the whitey-righties are usually the first ones to scoff at the perceived bad eating habits of “the poor” - i.e. nonwhite poors - yet will bristle violently at any suggestion that they ought to curtail their own over-consumption of fatty-salty-sugary-preservative-laden fast food/junk food: usually in the name of “freedom”.

Some people are just assholes and want to ruin the day of others.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:10:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:11:33pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

Jacob Wohl makes CCJ look brilliant. I’m sure someone will come around and do the same for Jacob though.

pretty sure that would be Laura…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:12:29pm
278
MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:12:45pm

re: #129 lawhawk

What did he do? Even reading that I can’t discern.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:12:58pm

re: #273 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Wohl and Loomer make the perfect absolutely no-power couple.

Pray to the FSM/Cuthulu that they don’t breed with each other - they could create a Wingnut Quantum Singularity….

280
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:14:01pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

Straight out of the Trump playbook. Lose spectacularly, yet still claim victory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:16:31pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

So the HAW is now the HEAW- the Hot Ex-Asian Wife. I know she’s supposed to be as terrible as he is ideologically but I can’t begin to express how creepy it was that he referred to her that way.

EHAW: Ex-Hot Asian Wife.

Also, EHAW is easier to say out loud.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:18:18pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait for that worthless asshole to be another angry douche on Twitter.

Or, more likely, prisoner 4796423, with only access to a smuggled in burner phone.

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Jay C  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:18:35pm

re: #278 MsJ

What did he do? Even reading that I can’t discern.

SPLC doesn’t seem (in any of the accounts I’ve read) to be giving out specific reasons for canning Dees, but reading in between the lines, the comments about “workplace environment”, etc. lead me to believe it is some sort of harassment beef - and one that they aren’t willing to air in public too much. To the point of effectively firing their founder (and public face of the SPLC for decades).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:19:03pm

re: #278 MsJ

What did he do? Even reading that I can’t discern.

I assume that will leak out in the near future.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:19:13pm

re: #164 ckkatz

Sounds like the same critter:

Huntsman spiders, members of the family Sparassidae (formerly Heteropodidae), are known by this name because of their speed and mode of hunting. They also are called giant crab spiders because of their size and appearance.

Also:

More than a thousand Sparassidae species occur in most warm temperate to tropical regions of the world, including much of Australasia, Africa, Asia, the Mediterranean Basin, and the Americas.

en.wikipedia.org

Fuck me.

I’m staying in Canada.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:20:06pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

So Beto has just opened the door for almost any Presidential candidate to not release their tax returns.

This is not a new normal I approve of.

FYI, That tweet was deleted (about Beto’s taxes).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:20:09pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

EHAW: Ex-Hot Asian Wife.

Also, EHAW is easier to say out loud.

I assume the correct acronym would be HAEW

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:21:18pm

re: #285 MsJ

Fuck me.

I’m staying in Canada.

Only have to worry about Polar Bears!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:21:33pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

EHAW: Ex-Hot Asian Wife.

Also, EHAW is easier to say out loud.

So..now she’s not hot anymore?

:P

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Jay C  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:21:53pm

re: #164 ckkatz

Sounds like the same critter:

Huntsman spiders, members of the family Sparassidae (formerly Heteropodidae), are known by this name because of their speed and mode of hunting. They also are called giant crab spiders because of their size and appearance.

Also:

More than a thousand Sparassidae species occur in most warm temperate to tropical regions of the world, including much of Australasia, Africa, Asia, the Mediterranean Basin, and the Americas.

en.wikipedia.org

Are we sure that was a spider in that clip? It looked like was flying down, and folded wings before crawling into the bodywork. And I don’t think there are any spiders with wings (though if there were, I’n sure they’d be found n Australia).

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:22:24pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

Mnunchin and this is where I certainly do blame Trump sees his job as serving Trump and not the American people. Trump’s tax records are pertinent to a criminal investigation.

You can’t steal the treasury serving the people.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:24:10pm

re: #287 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I assume the correct acronym would be HAEW

Can you attach “Ex-” to a phrase? I think you can—nowadays. Ex-(Hot Asian Wife)? “Hot Asian Ex-Wife” strikes me like Francis Drake sailing off to “singe the King’s beard of Spain”. Or “The Knight’s Wife of Bath”.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:25:09pm

re: #283 Jay C

SPLC doesn’t seem (in any of the accounts I’ve read) to be giving out specific reasons for canning Dees, but reading in between the lines, the comments about “workplace environment”, etc. lead me to believe it is some sort of harassment beef - and one that they aren’t willing to air in public too much. To the point of effectively firing their founder (and public face of the SPLC for decades).

Other comments indicate a racial conflict within the org, not sexual. Black associates felt “threatened”.

294
MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:28:41pm

re: #213 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So..to change the subject a little:

Obama was a MUSLIN!!! because his father was, and MUSLIN!!! = TERRIST!!!! Kamala Harris’ mother is Tamil. Do you suppose the wingnuts know enough to bring up the Tamil Tigers?

Why? Wingnuts like animals, too!

/////

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:28:41pm

re: #282 MsJ

Or, more likely, prisoner 4796423, with only access to a smuggled in burner phone.

I would be fine with this.

296
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:29:40pm

re: #282 MsJ

Or, more likely, prisoner 4796423, with only access to a smuggled in burner phone.

Password: NOCOLLUSION

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:29:47pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:30:34pm

re: #292 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Can you attach “Ex-” to a phrase? I think you can—nowadays. Ex-(Hot Asian Wife)? “Hot Asian Ex-Wife” strikes me like Francis Drake sailing off to “singe the King’s beard of Spain”. Or “The Knight’s Wife of Bath”.

Hot Asian Ex-Wife is the logically, grammatically, and semantically correct formulation as “ex” modifies her former marital status as Rage Furby’s “wife.” Presumably, she remains “hot” and Asian, so “ex” cannot modify those attributes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:30:39pm

re: #270 Jay C

I really don’t know what it is about wingnuts and food/dietary issues: the whitey-righties are usually the first ones to scoff at the perceived bad eating habits of “the poor” - i.e. nonwhite poors - yet will bristle violently at any suggestion that they ought to curtail their own over-consumption of fatty-salty-sugary-preservative-laden fast food/junk food: usually in the name of “freedom”.

Because they think big mean Michelle Obama was “telling” them how to eat instead of actually saying what she was “For fuck sake, healthy eating is a good thing.” Even Mike Huckabee briefly thought that was nonsense until he saw it was more to his benefit to act like she was “tyrannizing” them by encouraging healthy eating.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:31:46pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haven’t even started our taxes yet because I know we are going to owe a lot, maybe thousands.
But I really can’t be bothered with that right now because I’m so worried about my little dog. I can not fathom HOW she is still alive when she hasn’t had any real measurable amount of food in more than a week. And gaining weight!

Today’s progress report from the animal hospital is there has been no vomiting since one time on Tuesday night, but she’s still on IV fluids. Today she is much stronger, very alert, and visiting all over the hospital. They are going to try to introduce food/water by mouth to her tomorrow. Food was a no-go for her today, but maybe tomorrow.

Oh, and it appears that she has some early stage Sundowners/dementia. But then she is 17 years old and that’s pretty elderly even for a Jack Russell Terror.

Have you gotten any NutriCal? It’s a concentrated paste of animal goodness that can completely sustain an animal. They give it to animals like your Daisy. And they love it. They lick it straight out of the tube.

I’m sure Amazon has it. I used to get it from the vet but it’s not prescription any longer.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:32:34pm

re: #293 Decatur Deb

Other comments indicate a racial conflict within the org, not sexual. Black associates felt “threatened”.

Okay this is why I need to read better. I read the whole thing as Dees passing away. Wow I feel like a dumbass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:33:24pm

re: #287 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I assume the correct acronym would be HAEW

so many acronyms…so much time…

:D

303
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:33:57pm

re: #289 Eclectic Cyborg

So..now she’s not hot anymore?

:P

she has given birth…that does leave a mark…

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:34:12pm

re: #287 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I assume the correct acronym would be HAEW

“Ha ew” seems a more appropriate way to refer to the rage furby…

305
HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:34:35pm

re: #278 MsJ

What did he do? Even reading that I can’t discern.

This doesn’t sound good for Dees:
The series also alleged discriminatory treatment of black employees within the advocacy group, despite its outward efforts to improve the treatment of minorities in the country. Staffers at the time “accused Morris Dees, the center’s driving force, of being a racist and black employees have ‘felt threatened and banded together.’” The organization denied the accusations raised in the series.
That isn’t good. I haven’t seen this series yet but when there’s smoke, there’s fire probably. I don’t know.

306
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:34:44pm

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

she has given birth…that does leave a mark…

Wait wait wait

CCJ has REPRODUCED????

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE

307
Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:34:54pm

re: #240 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I figured this out once just for the hell of it. If you could somehow measure the diameter of the observable universe at any given moment to the nearest Planck Length, and wanted to calculate its circumference, again to the nearest Planck Length, you’d only have to know π to 61 decimal places.

Oh yeah, well yesterday I took the information from the Manafort sentencing and was able to determine his sentence to within 2 years on either side!

308
MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:35:05pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

It sounds like she ate something bad. My puppy did that (shaking, puking and then foaming at the mouth) but it passed in a few days. Daisy is much older so it might take longer to go through her.

309
HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:35:16pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

EHAW: Ex-Hot Asian Wife.

Also, EHAW is easier to say out loud.

Yeah I’m way off today.

310
TedStriker  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:36:00pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

EHAW: Ex-Hot Asian Wife.

Also, EHAW is easier to say out loud.

Sounds too much like “yeehaw”.

311
BlueGrl21  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:36:23pm

Those of you who have any familiarity with the Fightin’ Texas Aggies will understand.

312
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:36:34pm

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

Wait wait wait

CCJ has REPRODUCED????

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE

the rage furby babby’s impending birthing was the excuse he gave for not attending the moron-in-chief’s inauguration.

313
fern01  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:36:40pm

re: #290 Jay C

Are we sure that was a spider in that clip? It looked like was flying down, and folded wings before crawling into the bodywork. And I don’t think there are any spiders with wings (though if there were, I’n sure they’d be found n Australia).

Beginning to be a positive that Australia is know for its disgusting poisonous beasties as opposed to countries known for their disgusting poisonous leaders.

314
MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:37:41pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

So the HAW is now the HEAW- the Hot Ex-Asian Wife. I know she’s supposed to be as terrible as he is ideologically but I can’t begin to express how creepy it was that he referred to her that way.

I think she might still be Asian. Just saying! 🤣

315
Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:37:53pm

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

CCJ has REPRODUCED????

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE

I don’t think his spawn has the Mark of the Beast quite yet-but given both the egg and sperm donor share the same ideology, who the hell knows what’ll happen…

316
HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:38:31pm

re: #314 MsJ

I think she might still be Asian. Just saying! 🤣

I am way way off today :).

317
Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:38:35pm

re: #305 HappyWarrior

This doesn’t sound good for Dees:
The series also alleged discriminatory treatment of black employees within the advocacy group, despite its outward efforts to improve the treatment of minorities in the country. Staffers at the time “accused Morris Dees, the center’s driving force, of being a racist and black employees have ‘felt threatened and banded together.’” The organization denied the accusations raised in the series.
That isn’t good. I haven’t seen this series yet but when there’s smoke, there’s fire probably. I don’t know.

Where there’s smoke around here, it might be a cross burning.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:39:25pm

re: #317 Decatur Deb

Where there’s smoke around here, it might be a cross burning.

Yeah your BBQ isn’t as good as North Carolina’s. Snicker.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:39:31pm

re: #283 Jay C

SPLC doesn’t seem (in any of the accounts I’ve read) to be giving out specific reasons for canning Dees, but reading in between the lines, the comments about “workplace environment”, etc. lead me to believe it is some sort of harassment beef - and one that they aren’t willing to air in public too much. To the point of effectively firing their founder (and public face of the SPLC for decades).

That was my take too. I thought I missed something.

320
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:40:30pm

re: #308 MsJ

It sounds like she ate something bad. My puppy did that (shaking, puking and then foaming at the mouth) but it passed in a few days. Daisy is much older so it might take longer to go through her.

Daisy didn’t have any foaming at the mouth, just vomiting thick clear mucus with some white foam on top.

321
MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:40:31pm

re: #288 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Only have to worry about Polar Bears!

Right outside of Detroit? Probably not.

322
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:40:51pm

re: #310 TedStriker

Sounds too much like “yeehaw”.

was my plan…

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:43:39pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

I am way way off today :).

I’m sorry…I just had to.

324
MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:44:53pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

Daisy didn’t have any foaming at the mouth, just vomiting thick clear mucus with some white foam on top.

Try the NutriCal. Honest. It’s miraculous stuff.

And if she’ll eat anything, salmon. My farm girl friend swears by it. SWEARS by it.

325
HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:45:20pm

re: #323 MsJ

I’m sorry…I just had to.

Nah you’re good. I misread about Morris Dees too. I’m off today.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:45:48pm

re: #321 MsJ

Right outside of Detroit? Probably not.

Right now, no… but when the polar ice caps are permanently melted?

327
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:46:35pm

re: #324 MsJ

Try the NutriCal. Honest. It’s miraculous stuff.

And if she’ll eat anything, salmon. My farm girl friend swears by it. SWEARS by it.

she is not eating anything…not even salmon.
I tried.

328
MsJ  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:48:36pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

she is not eating anything…not even salmon.
I tried.

I promise she’ll eat this.

smile.amazon.com

329
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:50:39pm

re: #328 MsJ

I promise she’ll eat this.

smile.amazon.com

I poured a splash of chicken broth into the water bowl Tuesday morning. She didn’t want any part of that until I poured in a splash of water.
She lapped up some of it and threw up.

Thus the trip for the extended stay at the animal hospital.

330
Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 14, 2019 • 3:58:32pm

re: #290 Jay C

Are we sure that was a spider in that clip? It looked like was flying down, and folded wings before crawling into the bodywork. And I don’t think there are any spiders with wings (though if there were, I’n sure they’d be found n Australia).

I’ve been waiting for someone else to confirm what I saw!

331
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:00:45pm

re: #290 Jay C

Are we sure that was a spider in that clip? It looked like was flying down, and folded wings before crawling into the bodywork. And I don’t think there are any spiders with wings (though if there were, I’n sure they’d be found n Australia).

re: #330 Sionainn, Warrior Mother

I’ve been waiting for someone else to confirm what I saw!

Totally a crab spider. It wasn’t flying, it was climbing a silk thread.

332
ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2019 • 4:03:46pm

re: #265 Eric The Fruit Bat

[Embedded content]

Gets me every time. Dammit.

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:01:23pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Got a high wind warning until 8 pm issued.
The gusts are shaking the house.

That’s been going here all day, and I think it is worse now. I’ve had to dead bolt all the doors. When I had to leave the house, it was all I could do to stand up. It blew the pilot light out on my water heater. I’m waiting for tomorrow and no wind to try to re-light it. Thank heavens the trees haven’t let go, here in the yard. There were trees down everywhere I went this afternoon.

334
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:04:01pm

re: #333 retired cynic

That’s been going here all day, and I think it is worse now. I’ve had to dead bolt all the doors. When I had to leave the house, it was all I could do to stand up. It blew the pilot light out on my water heater. I’m waiting for tomorrow and no wind to try to re-light it. Thank heavens the trees haven’t let go, here in the yard. There were trees down everywhere I went this afternoon.

It’s gotten very scary quiet here…but not for long, I suspect.

335
retired cynic  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:24:58pm

re: #246 KGxvi

No, the rule is half your age plus 7 years. That’s the line for creepy.

Hey, we’ve been through this before here. My husband was 20 years older than I am, and it was our business!

ggggrrrrrrrrr

336
retired cynic  Mar 14, 2019 • 5:38:01pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

I poured a splash of chicken broth into the water bowl Tuesday morning. She didn’t want any part of that until I poured in a splash of water.
She lapped up some of it and threw up.

Thus the trip for the extended stay at the animal hospital.

I swear by Nutri Cal, too. Take just a dab on your finger and spread it on the roof of her mouth. Start slow…

It saved a lot of critters here, where lots of critters got dumped!


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