Friday Night Snarky Puppy: “Xavi” (Behind the Scenes) [VIDEO]

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The behind the scenes video of “Xavi” from Snarky Puppy’s new album, “Immigrance.” “Immigrance” is available now!

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Personnel:
Bob Lanzetti - electric guitar
Chris McQueen - electric guitar
Mark Lettieri - baritone guitar
Michael League - electric bass, handclaps
Bill Laurance - Fender Rhodes, clavinet, piano (solo)
Justin Stanton - piano
Bobby Sparks - clavinet and Minimoog (solo)
Shaun Martin - Minimoog bass
Mike “Maz” Maher - trumpet
Jay Jennings - trumpet, flugelhorn
Chris Bullock - tenor sax, soprano sax, flute, alto flute, bansuri, metal pife
Bob Reynolds - tenor sax
Zach Brock - violin (solo)
Nate Werth - Moroccan darbuka, Moroccan bendir, timbal, krakeb, handclaps
Keita Ogawa - Moroccan darbuka, Moroccan bendir, metal feathers, timbal, krakeb, ksink ksink, ocean drum (solo), reverse gong, timbal, bougarabu, handclaps
Marcelo Woloski - Moroccan darbuka, Moroccan bendir, elephant bells, timbal, krakeb, handclaps
Jason “JT” Thomas - drums
Larnell Lewis - drums
Jamison Ross - drums

Video by Stella K

Written by Michael League
Produced by Michael League and Snarky Puppy
Engineered and Mixed by Nic Hard
Mastered by Dave McNair
Artwork by Zeycan Alkiş
Graphic Design by Amalia Drewes

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429 comments

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Citizen K  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:39:54pm

I’m still not sure I can take the fact that we have folks on the left more willing to blame Chelsea Clinton for Christchurch than they are willing to blame Trump.

Just….fuck.

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Jay C  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:41:38pm

re: #1 Citizen K

I’m still not sure I can take the fact that we have folks on the left more willing to blame Chelsea Clinton for Christchurch than they are willing to blame Trump.

Just….fuck.

Say whut???

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HappyWarrior  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:43:36pm

re: #1 Citizen K

I’m still not sure I can take the fact that we have folks on the left more willing to blame Chelsea Clinton for Christchurch than they are willing to blame Trump.

Just….fuck.

I hate part of the left sometimes and I’ve been a staunch liberal since my grandparents told me about the New Deal when I was a kid.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:44:15pm

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Charles Johnson  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:46:55pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:47:15pm
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retired cynic  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:50:03pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

I heard some testimony on NPR, and they were tracking girls’ menstrual cycles, not just pregnancies. Now why on earth would they want to know that???….

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:56:16pm

re: #1 Citizen K

I’m still not sure I can take the fact that we have folks on the left more willing to blame Chelsea Clinton for Christchurch than they are willing to blame Trump.

Just….fuck.

I wouldn’t put anything past Bernie fanatics; they hate Hillary with a passion and I assume they feel the same about any member of the Clinton family. These so-called progressives have an animus toward anyone who is not a hardcore progressive, which seems to mean any candidate other than Bernie or Tulsi (no — I don’t know why they seem to like Tulsi). They will sabotage any other candidate — they certainly have made clear their hostility toward Beto and Kamala.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2019 • 8:56:54pm

re: #7 retired cynic

I heard some testimony on NPR, and they were tracking girls’ menstrual cycles, not just pregnancies. Now why on earth would they want to know that???….

Because Jesus just don’t like no abortion which is why His Gawdly Servant threw roadblock after roadblock in front of these girls till it was too late and they had to give birth so Betsy DeVos could arrange for a proper Xtian family to adopt the babies!

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mmmirele  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:01:12pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

I know this is a fool’s errand, but I’ve been arguing with pro-lifers on Twitter of late. Here’s what I’ve learned:

* In the calculus of whose rights count most, the zygote/embryo/fetus, the alleged sperm donor and the government always win out over what the woman wants.

* They won’t call out “pastors” who protest at the local Planned Parenthood and who tell the press that every woman who has had an abortion should be executed. (That, by the way, is a local “pastor” at a church a mile and a half from my house.)

* They won’t condemn the actions of people who bomb clinics and murder doctors and patients. Why? Because anything that strikes at abortion, such as blowing up a clinic and murdering doctors who perform abortion is preferable to the current situation.

* Pro-lifers will also baldly claim that there is nothing about pregnancy that could kill a woman. They won’t say a thing when I bring up Savita Halappanavar and how she was killed by her septic fetus because the Irish doctors wouldn’t perform an abortion.

* They also lie and say that abortion is more dangerous than before Roe v. Wade. That’s an easy one to dispel, here’s a link. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Again, I know this is probably a waste of time, but there are people who read tweets, so I feel like I may be performing a public service by countering these alleged “pro-lifers” who are actually so desperate to enslave women to our reproductive abilities.

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:05:33pm

re: #9 Joe Bacon 🌹

Because Jesus just don’t like no abortion which is why His Gawdly Servant threw roadblock after roadblock in front of these girls till it was too late and they had to give birth so Betsy DeVos could arrange for a proper Xtian family to adopt the babies!

Check out this doc. 7-(1)-(g)-4…

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geosherman  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:06:18pm

Painted Lady Butterflies

Thousands of these Painted Lady Butterflies came through our neighborhood today. They hung out in our yard on an Almond tree. This is an obvious antidote to all the crazy sh!t going on these days.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:06:46pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:07:06pm

re: #11 Teukka

Check out this doc. 7-(1)-(g)-4…

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Fella I see it’s from the International Criminal Court which the US refuses to recognize and Secretary of State Pompousass is revoking visas of their investigators.

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:07:07pm

re: #11 Teukka

Check out this doc. 7-(1)-(g)-4…

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Didn’t Pompous Pompeo threaten the ICC to leave US citizens alone?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:08:05pm

He sure did!

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:10:13pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fella I see it’s from the International Criminal Court which the US refuses to recognize and Secretary of State Pompousass is revoking visas of their investigators.

What struck me as odd was, why prevent them coming to the US? There are no open cases against US citizens or personnel… Unless they plan to do something which will bring heat…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:11:41pm

re: #17 Teukka

What struck me as odd was, why prevent them coming to the US? There are no open cases against US citizens or personnel… Unless they plan to do something which will bring heat…

I think Mr. Mueller knows why they’re here and President Shithead don’t like that.

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:12:08pm

re: #7 retired cynic

I heard some testimony on NPR, and they were tracking girls’ menstrual cycles, not just pregnancies. Now why on earth would they want to know that???….

I can think of two reasons:
a) Prevention of pregnancy.
b) Facilitation of pregnancy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:20:01pm

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:26:38pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:40:34pm

re: #7 retired cynic

I heard some testimony on NPR, and they were tracking girls’ menstrual cycles, not just pregnancies. Now why on earth would they want to know that???….

Josef Mengele would be proud of the continued experimentation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:45:30pm

Beware Australia! It’s heading your way!

The Australian government has been told it must cancel the visa for far-right speaker Milo Yiannopoulos following the Christchurch terrorist attack, with opposition frontbencher Tony Burke saying far-right extremism should be treated in the same way as other forms of terrorism.

The immigration minister, David Coleman, personally approved Yiannopoulos’s visa last week, against advice from the Department of Home Affairs, which earlier told Yiannopoulos he may fail the character test to enter Australia.

theguardian.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:53:19pm

As often as never-Trumper Bret Stephens demonstrates his deep dishonesty on a range of issues, he does occasionally speak the truth: nytimes.com

Now the majority of Republicans in the Senate have surrendered to the idea that a president can spend taxpayer money from a partisan whim in express defiance of Congress. It’s one more capitulation to Trumpism in a list that now includes the abandoned beliefs that international alliances make us safer, free trade makes us richer, immigration makes us stronger, a free press makes us freer, human rights make us better, and tyrants should be confronted, not coddled.

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2019 • 9:55:02pm
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austin_blue  Mar 15, 2019 • 10:13:38pm

So, an Australian racist, a committed terrorist who wanted to kill as many Muslims as he could, bought a ticket to New Zealand, where battle rifles are still for sale, retail. He went there because Australia had strict gun control laws and he couldn’t obtain his weapon of mass destruction in his home country.

He got together with some of his Nazi brethren, and obtained a battle rifle, which they tweaked to be full automatic and added bells and whistles. And then painted it up, glorifying Hitler, and every other Gates Of Vienna meme they could fit onto it.

Then he killed 49 people. And live streamed it.

I’ve wondered who these freakozoids are, why they think are the chosen people.

Here’s a taste:

quora.com

So, depending on how you spin the numbers, the White Race is either from 450 million to 750 million people.

Let’s go with the large end. That’s 375 million white men, with a world population 7.7 billion people. That makes white men a staggering total of 4.8% of the world population.

Channeling the Talking Heads, This Ain’t No Party, This Ain’t No Disco, This Ain’t No Fooling Around.

These people are actively gunning for 95% of the world’s population. They are targeting traditionally “white” countries first, but be assured they will spread their hate, if they are allowed to, over the entire world.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 15, 2019 • 10:16:32pm

re: #1 Citizen K

I’m still not sure I can take the fact that we have folks on the left more willing to blame Chelsea Clinton for Christchurch than they are willing to blame Trump.

Just….fuck.

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

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WTF?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 15, 2019 • 10:42:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 15, 2019 • 10:47:22pm

Seems to be a trend: A compelling need to remind ourselves that this world is not entirely a horror show.

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austin_blue  Mar 15, 2019 • 10:57:12pm

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 15, 2019 • 11:09:19pm

57 Channels (And Nothin’ On)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 15, 2019 • 11:18:26pm

I’m wondering if the Christchurch terrorist actually intended a suicide operation then chickened out. He went out of his way to identify himself, making capture or death inevitable, but then he didn’t kill himself or offer serious resistance when the cops caught up with him. Otoh, he may also have some harebrained idea of turning his trial into a circus to publicize his beliefs, but courts all over the world are onto that game now, and he may be disappointed as he spends the next 50 or more years rotting away in prison.

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2019 • 11:21:29pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m wondering if the Christchurch terrorist actually intended a suicide operation then chickened out. He went out of his way to identify himself, making capture or death inevitable, but then he didn’t kill himself or offer serious resistance when the cops caught up with him. Otoh, he may also have some harebrained idea of turning his trial into a circus to publicize his beliefs, but courts all over the world are onto that game now, and he may be disappointed as he spends the next 50 or more years rotting away in prison.

Or he intended “suicide by cop”, but his concept of the police being under the multiculti NWO command was a bit (///) off…

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:00:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:16:52am

re: #33 Teukka

Or he intended “suicide by cop”, but his concept of the police being under the multiculti NWO command was a bit (///) off…

It’s hard to say whether he intended to be taken alive or, as you suggested, seek martyrdom via “suicide by cop”.

Sadly, he’ll still be portrayed as a “martyr” by the RWNJ’s/Channers/Internet trolls/hardcore Islamophobes. He’ll probably try to turn his trial into a media circus - of that, I’m fairly certain.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:32:44am
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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:09:00am
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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:14:51am

“A lot of weird things about Steve”.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:20:17am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m wondering if the Christchurch terrorist actually intended a suicide operation then chickened out. He went out of his way to identify himself, making capture or death inevitable, but then he didn’t kill himself or offer serious resistance when the cops caught up with him. Otoh, he may also have some harebrained idea of turning his trial into a circus to publicize his beliefs, but courts all over the world are onto that game now, and he may be disappointed as he spends the next 50 or more years rotting away in prison.

I doubt it. His heroes Anders Breivik and Dylan Roof didn’t kill themselves. Kamikaze attacks and martyrdom operations are an inherently asymmetric warfare tactic, traditionally the hallmark of desperation, tools deployed by a side that knows it is against the ropes and facing an overwhelmingly superior opponent. Whereas unfortunately white nationalists have concrete reasons like Trump, Brexit and nativist governments in several Western countries to make them feel emboldened and ascendent.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:30:49am
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:36:09am

“I’ve chosen to be cremated and have my ashes placed in Mama Lo’s opium pipes. If there’s an after-life, I’d like to be high in it!”

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:40:23am

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

One of the (current) great tragedies in our public debates is how the for-profit information distributors (i.e., “the media”) are so able to avoid this obvious discussion, so able because they are unwilling to uncover their own duplicity.

This is not a general slam towards journalism (like Trump likes to do), but rather an observation about how for-profit media needs to operate.

For example, how often have you heard Chuck Todd come out and say that he and his employer have benefited, and continues to benefit, from Trump Inc? Comcast/NBCU have a long history with Trump, a mutual history of making millions of dollars together.

This is why American politics is so constipated, so to speak. Important discussions such as perpetuated priviledge get pushed down with shouts of SOCIALISM!.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:42:45am

The college admission scandal is the least surprising revelation to be so hyper-ventilated among our public platforms.

I always thought it was rather obvious that the rich bought their children the latter’s ways into elite schools. I bet you thought that too.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:10:39am

re: #43 freetoken

The college admission scandal is the least surprising revelation to be so hyper-ventilated among our public platforms.

I always thought it was rather obvious that the rich bought their children the latter’s ways into elite schools. I bet you thought that too.

I remember getting that impression from old black and white movies about college from the 40’s. Today, if you can keep a B average then the path for us poor people is to go to a Community College for a 2 year degree, transfer as a Junior to a University to fill all the empty positions of students who washed out by their Sophomore year. It is easier to transfer in as a Junior than get in as a freshman. Universities provide some good subsidies for poorer families, and a 24 year old student (even living with parents) without taxable income qualifies for free tuition at UCB. Go Bears!

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:40:54am

Well, looks like Milo Howeverthefuckyouspellhislastname won’t be able to take his grifting schtick to Australia.

Australia has denied a visa to right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos after he responded to the mosque massacre in New Zealand by branding Islam “barbaric” and “alien”, officials said on Saturday (March 16).

“Milo Yiannopoulos will not be allowed to enter Australia for his proposed tour this year,” Immigration Minister David Coleman said in a statement.

“Mr Yiannopoulos’ comments on social media regarding the Christchurch terror attack are appalling and foment hatred and division,” he said.

straitstimes.com

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:45:46am

A bit more good news:

Sky New Zealand has pulled fellow broadcaster Sky News Australia off air until the channel stops broadcasting clips from the Christchurch mosque shooter’s Facebook live stream.

In a tweet posted on Saturday morning, Sky New Zealand, an independently-owned broadcaster, said it had decided to remove the Australian 24-hour news channel from its platform because of the distressing footage.

“We stand in support of our fellow New Zealanders and have made the decision to remove Sky News Australia from our platform until we are confident that the distressing footage from yesterday’s events will not be shared.”

Despite a plea from New Zealand police, Rupert Murdoch’s Australian pay-TV channel was among the broadcasters that chose to screen Go Pro footage shot by a man who slaughtered 49 people at two mosques in Christchurch on Friday.

“Police are aware there is extremely distressing footage relating to the incident in Christchurch circulating online,” the police said in a statement. “We would strongly urge that the link not be shared. We are working to have any footage removed.”

theguardian.com

Suck it, Rupert.

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:01:36am

re: #23 Joe Bacon 🌹

Beware Australia! It’s heading your way!

The Australian government has been told it must cancel the visa for far-right speaker Milo Yiannopoulos following the Christchurch terrorist attack, with opposition frontbencher Tony Burke saying far-right extremism should be treated in the same way as other forms of terrorism.

The immigration minister, David Coleman, personally approved Yiannopoulos’s visa last week, against advice from the Department of Home Affairs, which earlier told Yiannopoulos he may fail the character test to enter Australia.

He’s been banned - again.

abc.net.au

Milo Yiannopoulos has been banned from entering Australia for a tour following his comments regarding the Christchurch terror attack.

Immigration Minister David Coleman has described the attack, in which 49 people were killed and 42 injured, as an “act of pure evil” as he confirmed Yiannopoulos would not be allowed to enter the country.

“Yiannopoulos’s comments on social media regarding the Christchurch terror attack are appalling and foment hatred and division,” Mr Coleman said.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:16:30am

re: #47 fern01

Milo’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t know when to STFU. He could’ve stayed quiet, gone and done his speaking tour in Australia, raked in some wingnut cash, and gone home and paid off some his considerable debts.

Instead, he just had to say something.

Guess he’ll have to find another way to hustle the rubes.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:29:52am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

Milo’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t know when to STFU. He could’ve stayed quiet, gone and done his speaking tour in Australia, raked in some wingnut cash, and gone home and paid off some his considerable debts.

Instead, he just had to say something.

Guess he’ll have to find another way to hustle the rubes.

True, Milo will miss some Australian rube-cash but he will earn martyr-cookies that can be readily converted to cash in the much larger American market.

“The socialists in Australia banned me!”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:41:30am

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

True, Milo will miss some Australian rube-cash but he will earn martyr-cookies that can be readily converted to cash in the much larger American market.

“The socialists in Australia banned me!”

Good point and yeah, that’s Milo’s most likely angle after this.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:01:17am

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

What is the exchange rate betwenn AUS rube-cash and US martyr-cookies?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:01:31am

Tsk tsk. This must be some of that left-wing violence Hannity and accomplices are always talking about.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:25:35am

I’m up all night calculating sun angles at various latitudes at various times of the year. I think I’ve fallen down a rabbit hole and I can’t get up.

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:34:08am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

Milo’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t know when to STFU. He could’ve stayed quiet, gone and done his speaking tour in Australia, raked in some wingnut cash, and gone home and paid off some his considerable debts.

Instead, he just had to say something.

Guess he’ll have to find another way to hustle the rubes.

I’m just so glad he didn’t STFU and come here & incite violence in those who want to be incited this way. It is really frustrating when a politician decides to overrule the recommendations from their experts (but everyone in the US knows all about that happening). In this case the politician was proven 100% wrong.

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:38:44am

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Tsk tsk. This must be some of that left-wing violence Hannity and accomplices are always talking about.

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There is a video - the RW bigot hit back with much force and would have continued but others pulled him away. The egger was a teenager.

theguardian.com

A Victoria Police spokesman said officers arrested a 17-year-old boy from Hampton who was released pending further inquiries.

A fundraising page has already been set up to collect donations to cover the teenager’s legal fees and to buy “more eggs”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:43:27am

re: #3 HappyWarrior

I hate part of the left sometimes and I’ve been a staunch liberal since my grandparents told me about the New Deal when I was a kid.

We have to recall that the terms “left” and “right” are arbitrary terms based on the seating order of the French parliament of the 19th century, and they applied simply to the pro-government vs the anti-government side of the aisle.

There are many viewpoints that are not inherently “left” or “right”, we see things like anti-semitism on both sides of the political spectrum. Anti-vaxxers also pop up on both sides of the discussion.

And there are those who hide behind fake Internet profiles to feed the flames of ratfuckery.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:44:45am

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

This is so incredibly goddamned dystopian and creepy.

The Handmaids’ Spreadsheet

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:12:30am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The anti-vaxxers I can recall (this would’ve been as far back as the late 1980s) were the granola hippie type. The usual suspects; believers in New-Age nonsense like crystal power and homeopathy, and generally falling for all kinds of woowoo they read in literature sold in obscure little bookshops.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:26:55am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

The anti-vaxxers I can recall (this would’ve been as far back as the late 1980s) were the granola hippie type. The usual suspects; believers in New-Age nonsense like crystal power and homeopathy, and generally falling for all kinds of woowoo they read in literature sold in obscure little bookshops.

Yes, but you also have Right-Wingers suspicious of mandatory Big Government vaccine programs and have a general distrust of modern science (when it is not used to kill people or destroy agricultural pests)-+

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jeffreyw  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:31:03am

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:41:29am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, but you also have Right-Wingers suspicious of mandatory Big Government vaccine programs and have a general distrust of modern science (when it is not used to kill people or destroy agricultural pests)-+

Yeah, there’s definitely been some cross-pollination in the anti-vaxxer movement.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:43:36am

Chinese genetic research is getting out of hand.

instagram.com

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:21:55am

Because I’m feeling petty AF this morning.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:30:12am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:30:52am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have to recall that the terms “left” and “right” are arbitrary terms based on the seating order of the French parliament of the 19th century, and they applied simply to the pro-government vs the anti-government side of the aisle.

There are many viewpoints that are not inherently “left” or “right”, we see things like anti-semitism on both sides of the political spectrum. Anti-vaxxers also pop up on both sides of the discussion.

And there are those who hide behind fake Internet profiles to feed the flames of ratfuckery.

I’m aware of that. But the fact is these terms do exist and the fact is on paper I do share some values with them. They’re Keynesians and I’m a Keynesian too. The big difference is I don’t think socialism is the or rather only answer to societal problems.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:32:12am

re: #64 I Would Prefer Not To

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Another racist cartoon by Ben Garrison.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:34:44am

Fuck this guy.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:43:20am
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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:45:31am

re: #60 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Morning!

For some reason I wanted to salute that image Jeffrey.

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jeffreyw  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:57:21am

re: #26 austin_blue

These people are actively gunning for 95% of the world’s population. They are targeting traditionally “white” countries first, but be assured they will spread their hate, if they are allowed to, over the entire world

I hope I die a natural death before the backlash hunts me down.

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darthstar  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:58:29am

Best thing to do in these twitter battles is stay the fuck out. And yeah, people won’t see the snark in my reply.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:02:05am

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

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But we can’t have a database of gun owners, that would infringe on their rights.

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jeffreyw  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:16:18am

re: #69 ObserverArt

Morning!

For some reason I wanted to salute that image Jeffrey.

There is a symmetry there. Good eye!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:17:20am

re: #60 jeffreyw

Well, this integrated picture is vastly superior to that last cardinal/blue jay segregated one.

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darthstar  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:19:02am

re: #71 darthstar

Best thing to do in these twitter battles is stay the fuck out. And yeah, people won’t see the snark in my reply.

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Sigh…I told her to have a good day and enjoy her rage-gasm.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:20:23am

re: #75 darthstar

For folks like that is is better to let them settle their own battles.

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darthstar  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:20:24am

And no, her response has nothing to do with supporting Bernie. Bernie didn’t shoot up the mosques in NZ any more than Chelsea did or Rep Omar for that matter.

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darthstar  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:22:19am

re: #76 PhillyPretzel

For folks like that is is better to let them settle their own battles.

Yeppers. Twitter is one big clusterfuck of people piling on right now. But there is one hero out there…a 14 year old boy in Australia. He gets stomped by fascists but he got his shot in and that’s all that matters.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:24:08am

re: #77 darthstar

These folks tweet exactly what is on their minds. They do not think before they do anything. Since they did not learn any history they have no idea who Catherine the Great is let alone her famous quote: Think before you speak but do not speak about everything you think.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:26:36am

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darthstar  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:27:56am

re: #80 PhillyPretzel

Tweeted that out. Thanks.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:28:12am

re: #78 darthstar

Yeppers. Twitter is one big clusterfuck of people piling on right now. But there is one hero out there…a 14 year old boy in Australia. He gets stomped by fascists but he got his shot in and that’s all that matters.

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Nice crowd control they have there in New Zealand. I guess it is every man for himself.

But no problem, it was extensively covered by all the cameras.

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darthstar  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:28:53am

I didn’t realize Baked Alaska had found his calling.

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darthstar  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:32:14am

What the fuck?

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Jay C  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:35:24am

OK: still missing something here: what did Chelsea Clinton say/do/tweet re the NZ attacks that got her - ?? Blamed ??

Chelsea responds to even the most vicious Internet attacks with calm: I can’t imagine her making any untoward or even unkind comment on the Christchurch massacres.

I mean, I’m sure that wouldn’t stop RW trolls from attacking her (nothing does): but I still haven’t seen what she said? Link?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:37:05am

re: #85 Jay C

This is what I found on yahoo:
search.yahoo.com

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:41:49am

re: #85 Jay C

OK: still missing something here: what did Chelsea Clinton say/do/tweet re the NZ attacks that got her - ?? Blamed ??

Chelsea responds to even the most vicious Internet attacks with calm: I can’t imagine her making any untoward or even unkind comment on the Christchurch massacres.

I mean, I’m sure that wouldn’t stop RW trolls from attacking her (nothing does): but I still haven’t seen what she said? Link?

The tweet they’re talking about is her response to Ilhan Omar’s “follow the Benjamins” tweet. She said more or less that IO should avoid anti-Semitic tropes in her criticism.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:44:27am

re: #86 PhillyPretzel

This is what I found on yahoo:
search.yahoo.com

So apparently Chelsea was another Democrat that didn’t like Rep. Ilhan Omar’s comments.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:47:45am

re: #88 ObserverArt

So apparently Chelsea was another Democrat that didn’t like Rep. Ilhan Omar’s comments.

I did like what she said, and criticism of her words is a strike against the critic in my view. Chelsea (who I actually like a lot) got that wrong like all the other Dems, but hey nobody (esp in that world) is right all the time.

So far past where young women have to couch their words, and old men speak freely.

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Broad With Sass  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:50:47am

The chick who screamed at Chelsea apparently felt she was an intruder at the
vigil..unwanted and unappreciated because of her comments

Just a note the girl who confronted her was wearing a bernie shirt
Business Insider

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Jay C  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:51:05am

re: #86 PhillyPretzel

This is what I found on yahoo:
search.yahoo.com

Tx.
OK, in this case, trying to pin ANY blame on Chelsea Clinton, however roundabout, for the NZ killings has to rank among the stupidest things I’ve ever seen on the ‘Net. But the century is still young, yet….

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:51:57am

Found a link to this tweet with a video of the NYU student upset by Chelsea’s remark.

The Democrats need to do some work on how they want to talk about what is and what isn’t anti-semitism. Or, this is going to keep happening.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:52:53am

re: #91 Jay C

Blaming Chelsea is ridiculous since she was not in New Zealand at the time of the crime.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:54:07am

re: #93 PhillyPretzel

Knee jerk stupid response to the all too clear connection between our President and white nationist violence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:54:59am

re: #93 PhillyPretzel

Blaming Chelsea is ridiculous since she was not in New Zealand at the time of the crime.

Neither was Obama and he gets blamed for anything.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:57:31am

re: #93 PhillyPretzel

Blaming Chelsea is ridiculous since she was not in New Zealand at the time of the crime.

She is not even a politician and speaks only for herself not some constituency.

But she is a Clinton, so attack away.

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Broad With Sass  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:57:41am
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SteelPH  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:00:36am

re: #83 darthstar

Here’s a question, if Milo’s bankrupt, how the hell could he to afford a trip to Australia before they denied him a visa?

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:00:53am

re: #90 Broad With Sass

The chick who screamed at Chelsea apparently felt she was an intruder at the
vigil..unwanted and unappreciated because of her comments

Just a note the girl who confronted her was wearing a bernie shirt
Business Insider

More germane, I think, is the fact that she’s a student activist for Palestinian rights. (And she’s probably about 20 — after a career spent on a university campus, I can confirm that kids that age aren’t nearly as mature in their judgement as they think they are, and are prone to shooting their mouths off. She’s been roundly reproved for this, and it’s a minor matter in the nastiness of the world. They do grow up in time. )

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:01:32am

re: #98 SteelPH

Either “GoFundMe” or someone else is bankrolling him.

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Jay C  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:01:53am

re: #93 PhillyPretzel

Blaming Chelsea is ridiculous since she was not in New Zealand at the time of the crime.

RW sewer-trolls would probably blame Chelsea Clinton for the Lindbergh Baby kidnapping - and cite “Democratic support for post-birth abortion” to justify the claim.

That she would get painted as some sort of Islamophobe-inciter by an NYU student is just plain dumb, though. Over her mild rebuke of Ilhan Omar? Puh-leeeeze….

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:02:03am

re: #98 SteelPH

Here’s a question, if Milo’s bankrupt, how the hell could he to afford a trip to Australia before they denied him a visa?

Probably financed by some RW group, if he’s there to speak.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:03:09am

re: #96 ObserverArt

She is not even a politician and speaks only for herself not some constituency.

But she is a Clinton, so attack away.

I just did a quick search on one of the women—the entire first google page was links to townhall, blaze, breitbart, etc. all with a variant on ‘dems face wokeness’ or ‘Clinton AMBUSHED’ (like they give a shit about Chelsea Clinton). Google is just so “anti-conservative (but that’s beside the point, if I have one, and I don’t). Oh, right. Nothing reported about the Democrats to Trump supporters will move the needle there. I’m just wondering how marginalized the Bernie Bros will get.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:05:04am

re: #93 PhillyPretzel

Blaming Chelsea is ridiculous since she was not in New Zealand at the time of the crime.

It’s the fact that she had nothing to do with inciting hostility toward Muslims that is key. You don’t have to be in a country or even know the perpetrator or the plot to hold responsibility for a crime if you deliberately promote hatred and inspire others to commit these acts.

Bernie supporters are out there plotting to destroy the Democratic Party. So, in Bernie town, Chelsea’s mild criticism of Omar is responsible for a massacre in New Zealand

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:10:13am

re: #15 Teukka

Didn’t Pompous Pompeo threaten the ICC to leave US citizens alone?

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

He sure did!

Isn’t it interesting how many ‘Law n’ Order’ folks are against ‘Law n’ Order’ when they think it might be their gonads in the vice?

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:11:55am

re: #104 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s the fact that she had nothing to do with inciting hostility toward Muslims that is key. You don’t have to be in a country or even know the perpetrator or the plot to hold responsibility for a crime if you deliberately promote hatred and inspire others to commit these acts.

Bernie supporters are out there plotting to destroy the Democratic Party. So, in Bernie town, Chelsea’s mild criticism of Omar is responsible for a massacre in New Zealand

Which is ironic, since in the matter of Israel, Bernie is pretty much in the same camp as other Democrats.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:12:00am

re: #23 Joe Bacon 🌹

‘May fail’.

Milo has no character to test.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:14:51am

re: #104 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s the fact that she had nothing to do with inciting hostility toward Muslims that is key. You don’t have to be in a country or even know the perpetrator or the plot to hold responsibility for a crime if you deliberately promote hatred and inspire others to commit these acts.

Bernie supporters are out there plotting to destroy the Democratic Party. So, in Bernie town, Chelsea’s mild criticism of Omar is responsible for a massacre in New Zealand

They’re not doing anything of the sort. They are KIDS. They’ve gotten hold of one big idea and are pursuing it with the dreams and vigor — and idiocy — of youth.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:15:21am

I notice almost all of the media reporting on Chelsea’s comments frame Ilhan Omar’s
previous comments as anti-semitism.

So, it must be carved in stone that they were in fact anti-semitic.

It doesn’t take into account so many have already defended Ilhan Omar, and that doesn’t get mentioned in the reports

Why can’t the media report the actual truth? Maybe say Rep. Omar’s comments caused some to think they were anti-semitic leading to this sort of tenseness in public debate over those comments.

That would tell the reader/listener there is discussion over Omar’s comments and there are many opinions, not just the carved in stone and actually lazy “her anti-semitic comments.”

So there are axes being ground and the lack in depth of the reporting feeds heated and dangerous reactions.

It is going to be a very long 2019 and 2020 in political time.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:19:06am

re: #109 ObserverArt

It’s as if reality fled the popular dialog right when Obama got in the primary.
On second thought, it did. Never mind as if.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:25:48am

re: #106 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

Which is ironic, since in the matter of Israel, Bernie is pretty much in the same camp as other Democrats.

But many Bernie supporters — including Bernie’s brother — support BDS. OTOH, back in 2016, I also had friends who were ardent supporters of Israel who also supported Bernie. These friends did vote for Hillary in the general.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:26:25am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s why I use a triangular political spectrum with the vertexes labelled ‘humanist’, ‘authoritarian’, and ‘barbarian’.

Humanists believe that society should be in balance with a certain level of power available to everyone.

Authoritarians believe that society should be a pyramidal structure with only ‘the worthy’ having any access to power.

Barbarians couldn’t give two fucks about society. They care about power. Power for their tribe and for themselves. They also care about who they can hurt with that power and what they can loot from their victims.

Most of the people on ‘the right’ are barbarians.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:27:19am

re: #110 Unshaken Defiance

It’s as if reality fled the popular dialog right when Obama got in the primary.
On second thought, it did. Never mind as if.

Yeah, and you can’t really use the word dialog because we don’t get to have that.

Now everyone to your corners, and when you hear the bell, come out fighting.

That is how we settle things now.

Like the kid with the egg. Turn around, slap and punch. There is no room for a politician to say “why did you do that…we need to talk?

Had the NZ senator chose to do that, his followers would probably think he was wimping out. Good on you senator…should we pulverize him further?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:37:10am

Same number of victims as the Christchurch massacre:

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:41:11am

re: #113 ObserverArt

Yeah, and you can’t really use the word dialog because we don’t get to have that.

Now everyone to your corners, and when you hear the bell, come out fighting.

That is how we settle things now.

Like the kid with the egg. Turn around, slap and punch. There is no room for a politician to say “why did you do that…we need to talk?

Had the NZ senator chose to do that, his followers would probably think he was wimping out. Good on you senator…should we pulverize him further?

How would it make sense for this particular senator even to say that? He was the one who blamed Muslims for the New Zealand massacre. He knew exactly why he was egged. This is a man who supports evil; how can you reason with him?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:41:19am

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

So now DT is an instructor of mayhem. This is going to be a long campaign season.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:48:20am

One of my favorite Twitter follows. :D

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:50:32am

re: #117 GlutenFreeJesus

That is good to hear. Thanks.

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Citizen K  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:52:01am

Just….ugh.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:54:47am

re: #119 Citizen K

Ugh. It is the right sound for something disgusting. I am afraid it is going to get worse before it gets better. :(

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:58:40am

re: #92 ObserverArt

Found a link to this tweet with a video of the NYU student upset by Chelsea’s remark.

The Democrats need to do some work on how they want to talk about what is and what isn’t anti-semitism. Or, this is going to keep happening.

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The attacker wasn’t using Clinton’s remarks, nor anything related to criticism of antisemitism, or defense of Israel in his justification for the attack. He just hated Muslims and had a target. I guarantee you that he would have no problem attacking a synagogue.

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Citizen K  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:59:39am

re: #120 PhillyPretzel

Ugh. It is the right sound for something disgusting. I am afraid it is going to get worse before it gets better. :(

Infinitely so it seems. And its seems like the total erasure of Trump as any sort of factor or inspiration in this has been full and complete. Everyone’s talking about everything else being a factor (including Chelsea Clinton, for fuck’s sake) while Trump gets to skate off despite being a fucking openly spoken factor in the motherfucker’s manifesto.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:04:50am
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Citizen K  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:08:32am

Just jumping off from conversations from the other day, but the case that there’s a deep and abiding anti-justice bent in this country never seemed clearer:

Read it in full. It seems like there’s truly an unbreachable wall that will justify all injustice on the basis of race and will die on the hill not only to protect it but forever perpetuate it. This truly is what much of this country seems to want: the rest of us not only out of power but living in fear of not only being killed but being blamed for our own massacres. And if you fight back against it, you’ll simply be drowned in just how much of the country loves your misery and pain.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:08:44am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:13:15am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:17:24am

re: #126 Charles Johnson

These people have no idea of what a logical argument is. All they know is a bunch of talking points with nothing to back them up. That and a bullying technique of hit hard and fast and do not let up.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:17:42am

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

How would it make sense for this particular senator even to say that? He was the one who blamed Muslims for the New Zealand massacre. He knew exactly why he was egged. This is a man who supports evil; how can you reason with him?

You are both missing my point and yet understanding my point. I know the senator wouldn’t do it. I am talking about how it really should be if we had actual dialog instead of everyone just fighting it out and if we had politicians that wanted to try to understand other viewpoints.

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Citizen K  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:17:50am

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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The only context needed is the everpresent standard of US Politics: “Clinton, therefore evil.”

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:25:56am

Here are the top headlines from The Washington Post:
washingtonpost.com

It is still the top news story.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:32:43am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:34:41am

Notice how the Prime Minister of New Zealand immediately said she was going work to strengthen gun laws rather than suggesting the Muslims should have been armed?

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Citizen K  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:34:45am

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, and notably he doesn’t take after Lindsay Graham refusing to let it even come to committee. SHows how principled he is about it.

…fast bets on how long it takes for NYT to take this at face value and praise Trump for ‘allowing GOP Congressmen’ to vote for transparency?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:37:38am
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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:43:54am

re: #125 Charles Johnson

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:46:35am

re: #98 SteelPH

Here’s a question, if Milo’s bankrupt, how the hell could he to afford a trip to Australia before they denied him a visa?

Queen Milo must have found a new sugar mama after Rebekkah Mercer dumped him.

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stpaulbear  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:48:21am

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Somehow he didn’t get the message to Ms. Lindsey.
/

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:57:55am

re: #125 Charles Johnson

No redemption for sinners! We the pure, the good, the righteous, have spoken!

Once again demonstrating that the differences between the wingnuts and the moonbats are only aesthetic.

Two sides of the same coin.
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stpaulbear  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:59:15am

re: #137 stpaulbear

Somehow he didn’t get the message to Ms. Lindsey.
/

…although it does sound like a Trump idea to have Lindsey put the resolution on hold unless they also added another pointless investigation of HILLARY!!! WHAT ABOUT HILLARY!!! What a joke.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:59:30am

re: #127 PhillyPretzel

These people have no idea of what a logical argument is. All they know is a bunch of talking points with nothing to back them up. That and a bullying technique of hit hard and fast and do not let up.

The next level of the gish gallop. Instead of too many non-facts/half-truths, just keep attacking with no clue about anything. Still trying to find Chelsea C. being islamaphobic.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:01:01am

re: #125 Charles Johnson

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:01:25am

re: #140 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Who needs truth when you are right?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:03:58am

re: #134 Charles Johnson

I tend to use the combined phrase “nationalism is white supremacism”. And definitely don’t use the “white nationalism” thing, it has always struck me a redundant. I actually didn’t know that white nationalism was coined by supremacists.

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Varek Raith  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:05:48am

Good afternoon.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:05:51am

re: #142 Romantic Heretic

Who needs truth when you are right?

This is is the calling card of the narcissistic, modern social media troll.

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Skip Intro  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:12:01am

re: #134 Charles Johnson

And I wish people would use either one of them instead of the mild sounding “alt-right”.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:33:58am

re: #124 Citizen K

Just jumping off from conversations from the other day, but the case that there’s a deep and abiding anti-justice bent in this country never seemed clearer:

[Embedded content]

Read it in full. It seems like there’s truly an unbreachable wall that will justify all injustice on the basis of race and will die on the hill not only to protect it but forever perpetuate it. This truly is what much of this country seems to want: the rest of us not only out of power but living in fear of not only being killed but being blamed for our own massacres. And if you fight back against it, you’ll simply be drowned in just how much of the country loves your misery and pain.

There were some little things that cost her points. Being a Clinton. Being a woman. Supporting minorities. But the biggest things that cost her were Comey and Russia. And that was in a few states.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:36:15am

re: #134 Charles Johnson

I wish people would get used to using the term “white supremacism” instead of “white nationalism.” The latter was deliberately coined by white supremacists to make their sick ideology seem less extreme. We shouldn’t use their frame to describe them.

I find them equivalent and equally repugnant.

Just like when racists brand themselves “racial realists”.

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Citizen K  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:36:53am

re: #147 Belafon

There were some little things that cost her points. Being a Clinton. Being a woman. Supporting minorities. But the biggest things that cost her were Comey and Russia. And that was in a few states.

Yeah, it was all a pretty perfect storm of bullshit, but it seems like anti-anti-Racism remains a huge crosstab throughout, and that’s fucking depressing. And we seem to be seeing it more and more with every passing day.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:37:01am

JFC

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:40:46am

Speech Police Against Policing Speech.

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wrenchwench  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:42:57am

re: #150 Charles Johnson

JFC

[we need have a deeper shard understanding]

Archaeology?

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:44:09am

re: #152 wrenchwench

Sherd and sherd alike.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:46:00am

re: #153 jaunte

Sherd and sherd alike.

Fer sherd!

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SteelPH  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:47:40am

re: #144 Varek Raith

Good afternoon.

What’s so good about it?
///

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:53:02am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:54:58am

I’m in the middle of a real disaster in my house. The water line to my refrigerator was leaking unseen for several days, and it spread into the adjoining bedroom. Now I’m going to have to replace a whole lot of carpet and flooring, and I’m panicking because I really cannot afford this right now.

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SteelPH  Mar 16, 2019 • 10:55:19am

Gotta love it when people outright admit they don’t want to be a rational adult.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:02:57am

re: #149 Citizen K

Yeah, it was all a pretty perfect storm of bullshit, but it seems like anti-anti-Racism remains a huge crosstab throughout, and that’s fucking depressing. And we seem to be seeing it more and more with every passing day.

They’re definitely more out in the open, which I want to cure. But those aren’t votes that suddenly changed in 2016.

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Semper Fi  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:06:12am

re: #157 Charles Johnson

I’m in the middle of a real disaster in my house. The water line to my refrigerator was leaking unseen for several days, and it spread into the adjoining bedroom. Now I’m going to have to replace a whole lot of carpet and flooring, and I’m panicking because I really cannot afford this right now.

Insurance, if you have it, usually includes water damage.

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mmmirele  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:16:41am

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

Notice how the Prime Minister of New Zealand immediately said she was going work to strengthen gun laws rather than suggesting the Muslims should have been armed?

I watched Jacinda Ardern and wished to God that we had someone as well spoken as her as our leader. Instead we have the short-fingered vulgarian who speaks in Word Salad.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:18:39am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:21:08am
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mmmirele  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:21:15am

re: #157 Charles Johnson

I’m in the middle of a real disaster in my house. The water line to my refrigerator was leaking unseen for several days, and it spread into the adjoining bedroom. Now I’m going to have to replace a whole lot of carpet and flooring, and I’m panicking because I really cannot afford this right now.

I have come to the conclusion that having an ice maker is not worth the hassle of finding out the line to it leaked. A similar thing happened to my parents several years ago. The line leaked underneath the sink, causing my parents to have to replace a wall, cabinets and flooring in the kitchen. My mom discovered the leak on Thanksgiving day, there were fans drying out that side of the house until after Christmas and the replacement of the kitchen structures and flooring didn’t finish until May of the next year. Oh, and here’s the best part, insurance would not pay because there was mold that my parents should have seen in the dark dark cupboard under the sink.

So yeah, I’m perfectly happy with my no icemaker refrigerator.

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Old Liberal  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:23:59am

re: #160 Semper Fi

Insurance, if you have it, usually includes water damage.

Be very careful. Read your policy before making a claim. A catastrophic event like a burst hose may qualify for coverage but a “lack of maintenance “ slow leak might not. How you describe the event could make a difference.

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sagehen  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:29:59am

re: #161 mmmirele

I watched Jacinda Ardern and wished to God that we had someone as well spoken as her as our leader. Instead we have the short-fingered vulgarian who speaks in Word Salad.

She was on Colbert a few months ago

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern Explains Why The UN Laughed At Trump

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Man, DangerMan  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:36:19am

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:38:54am

re: #158 SteelPH

Gotta love it when people outright admit they don’t want to be a rational adult.

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And these are the people who will lead to the re-election of Trump. It’s not just the white supremacists who are poisoning the dialogue; it’s also Netanyahu who has aligned with anti-Muslim bigots; and it’s those on “our” side who demonize anyone who doesn’t comply 100% with their visions and who refuse to look at the benefits of cooperation that will in the long-run help achieve their goals.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:43:47am
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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:47:37am

re: #157 Charles Johnson

I’m in the middle of a real disaster in my house. The water line to my refrigerator was leaking unseen for several days, and it spread into the adjoining bedroom. Now I’m going to have to replace a whole lot of carpet and flooring, and I’m panicking because I really cannot afford this right now.

Do you have insurance?

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 11:53:16am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:01:52pm

re: #67 MsJ

Fuck this guy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:02:37pm

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

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I don’t think I completely agree with the take on the Daily Mirror front page; isn’t the point from Daily Mirror that an innocent child can grow into someone truly evil? There is no ambiguity in the headline — they characterize him as an “evil far-right mass killer”. They aren’t excusing or justifying his actions at all. Aren’t the headlines saying that Omar Mateen was responding to ISIS ideology while Brenton Tarrant was part of far-right ideology? That far-right and ISIS are equally monstrous?

There isn’t a single organization on the right that has the renown and influence as ISIS.

Probably the main objection is that the picture is of him as an “angelic child” while the Omar photo is as an adult.

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Old Liberal  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:07:40pm

re: #173 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t think I completely agree with the take on the Daily Mirror front page; isn’t the point from Daily Mirror that an innocent child can grow into someone truly evil? There is no ambiguity in the headline — they characterize him as an “evil far-right mass killer”. They aren’t excusing or justifying his actions at all. Aren’t the headlines saying that Omar Mateen was responding to ISIS ideology while Brenton Tarrant was part of far-right ideology? That far-right and ISIS are equally monstrous?

There isn’t a single organization on the right that has the renown and influence as ISIS.

Probably the main objection is that the picture is of him as an “angelic child” while the Omar photo is as an adult.

I suspect Omar was an angelic child as well. But he wasn’t presented that way in that story. Headline and picture is all that 80% of people read and take their emotional cues from

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Citizen K  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:11:24pm

re: #174 Old Liberal

I suspect Omar was an angelic child as well. But he wasn’t presented that way in that story. Headline and picture is all that 80% of people read and take their emotional cues from

It’s the difference between saying someone was ‘turned’ evil and saying someone was evil all along. The former is considered more of a victim and the latter an inherent monster.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:11:47pm

There’s got to be a tape of Graham with a rent boy out there somewhere…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:24:31pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s got to be a tape of Graham with a rent boy out there somewhere…

Putin has it along with a lot of other Kompromat on that traitor.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:26:46pm

There are mounting signs of military planning for Venezuela
militarytimes.com

Yeah, when Muellers report comes out he has this up his sleeve.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:26:58pm

re: #174 Old Liberal

I suspect Omar was an angelic child as well. But he wasn’t presented that way in that story. Headline and picture is all that 80% of people read and take their emotional cues from

Isn’t the point, though, of both articles that almost anyone (especially someone young and naive) can be transformed into a monster or maniac by a toxic ideology that makes enemies of those who are different and targets them for murder? Or makes enemies of those who don’t share your ideology or those who don’t worship your cult leader?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:29:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:31:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:35:27pm

moron is upset

and again with this stupid video

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:38:01pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All of these people need to be rounded up. Worldwide. And never see the light of day again.

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Old Liberal  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:38:18pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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Aren’t you supposed to take your hat off indoors?

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:38:24pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nice cowboy costumes.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:39:24pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fascist motherfuckers every last one.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:39:38pm

Didn’t take long for Bill Barr to be forced into self-abasement.

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Citizen K  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:40:16pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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I’m not sure any one of us is going to actually survive long enough to see the damage undone.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:40:59pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:44:27pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s got to be a tape of Graham with a rent boy out there somewhere…

Simpler explanation: Huckleberry Butch-Me-Up is facing reelection next year and he’s scared shitless that an even crazier Trumper will primary him unless he pledges absolute loyalty to Hair Furor.

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TedStriker  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:46:04pm

re: #189 MsJ

I have to say, I’ve become quite impressed with AOC; she’s hard, like Vasquez and Ripley from Aliens.

If AOC ever got a flamethrower and/or pulse rifle, GAME OVER MAN!

/geek off

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:47:14pm

re: #187 Barefoot Grin

Didn’t take long for Bill Barr to be forced into self-abasement.

Is there any reason to believe that this isn’t who he really is? I don’t think there is any evidence that he was ever a decent person. He’s always been a Republican tool who cares nothing about what is right for the nation — a party over country person during his entire public life.

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Old Liberal  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:48:49pm

re: #178 Unshaken Defiance

There are mounting signs of military planning for Venezuela
militarytimes.com

Yeah, when Muellers report comes out he has this up his sleeve.

It will be easy just like Iraq. Anyone have General Shinseki’s phone for a troop estimate number? Let’s get the old gang from Iraq together including Viceroy what’s his face.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:49:03pm

re: #192 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any reason to believe that this isn’t who he really is? I don’t think there is any evidence that he was ever a decent person. He’s always been a Republican tool who cares nothing about what is right for the nation — a party over country person during his entire public life.

It is who he is and it’s why he was hired.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:52:27pm

re: #193 Old Liberal

Viceroy what’s his face.

L. (because of course he has a first initial) Paul “Jerry” (where does he get Jerry?) Bremer.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:53:30pm

re: #189 MsJ

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AOC seems more and more like the embodiment of the biggest wish most of us had for the DNC in the era of Trump (and, really, going further back): A total lack of fucks to give for what the “liberal media” thinks of them.

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:53:33pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

I’m in the middle of a real disaster in my house. The water line to my refrigerator was leaking unseen for several days, and it spread into the adjoining bedroom. Now I’m going to have to replace a whole lot of carpet and flooring, and I’m panicking because I really cannot afford this right now.

Room dehumidifier. Stat. Lift what you can of the carpet and flooring so water can escape.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:54:01pm

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

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Hey, they still called him a far-right mass killer! What do you want?

He was angelic and the ‘devils’ made him turn.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:55:18pm

re: #192 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any reason to believe that this isn’t who he really is? I don’t think there is any evidence that he was ever a decent person. He’s always been a Republican tool who cares nothing about what is right for the nation — a party over country person during his entire public life.

Frankly, anybody who thought that Bill Barr might be the exception to the rule of this administration so far has not really been paying attention. These people don’t join up because they think they can be the one to finally bring order to chaos, they look at the chaos and think “There might be some profit in it for me.”

Barr will last as long as it takes for him to tell Donny that he’s not going to lead a pogrom of the DNC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:56:09pm

MsJ…Daisy was a bit lethargic this morning but she ate and drank a little bit today! And she’s been off the anti-nausea meds for two days now.

Cautiously hopeful.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:56:40pm

Fucking greenwald.

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sagehen  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:56:42pm

re: #189 MsJ

AOC is underwater with every group EXCEPT women, nonwhites, and 18-34 year olds

Correct me if I’m wrong, but… don’t “women, nonwhites and 18-34 year olds” add up to about 70% of the electorate?

Probably more than that in her district.

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:56:58pm

re: #197 Teukka

Room dehumidifier. Stat. Lift what you can of the carpet and flooring so water can escape.

You might limit the damage and subsequent cost of replacement that way.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:58:24pm

re: #113 ObserverArt

Like the kid with the egg. Turn around, slap and punch. There is no room for a politician to say “why did you do that…we need to talk?

Had the NZ senator chose to do that, his followers would probably think he was wimping out. Good on you senator…should we pulverize him further?

Australian senator, please. And his election there was a freak artefact of their preferential voting system.

Perhaps he’s feeling the heat because the terrorist is an Australian citizen.

(NZ has a unicameral legislature. There is no Upper House of any description.)

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sagehen  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:58:35pm

re: #192 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any reason to believe that this isn’t who he really is? I don’t think there is any evidence that he was ever a decent person. He’s always been a Republican tool who cares nothing about what is right for the nation — a party over country person during his entire public life.

The last time Bill Barr was attorney general, he got GHWB to pardon all the Iran-Contra convicted felons (and a few who were awaiting trial).

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:59:25pm

re: #197 Teukka

Room dehumidifier. Stat. Lift what you can of the carpet and flooring so water can escape.

And standing fans to blow dry under the carpets. My insurance company paid to mitigate water damage…$14k to have like 6 GIANT sized fans running 24/7 for like a week.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 12:59:26pm

re: #195 Sufficient unto the day…

L. (because of course he has a first initial) Paul “Jerry” (where does he get Jerry?) Bremer.

?? Since his real first name is “Lewis”, maybe an old nickname from “Jerry Lewis”?

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:00:40pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

MsJ…Daisy was a bit lethargic this morning but she ate and drank a little bit today! And she’s been off the anti-nausea meds for two days now.

Cautiously hopeful.

That’s fantastic news!!! I’m thrilled for you both!!!

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:01:35pm

re: #202 sagehen

Correct me if I’m wrong, but… don’t “women, nonwhites and 18-34 year olds” add up to about 70% of the electorate?

Probably more than that in her district.

As she said, that’s everyone but old, white conservative guys. 😂😂😂

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:01:40pm

re: #172 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dan Crenshaw ✔
@DanCrenshawTX
* Mar 15, 2019
If you find yourself using the tragedy in New Zealand to take backhanded swipes at conservatives in America - many of my colleagues already have - then you really have no shame and you are part of the problem.

It should be easy for us to stand united and condemn terrorism.

Hey Dan, if this is what you want, will you also stand united and condemn Trump for helping fuel terrorism, like that which happens right here in America and lends to the terrorism in New Zealand. The NZ terrorists mentioned being motivated by Trump.

This should be easy, right?

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:01:57pm

re: #186 MsJ

Fascist motherfuckers every last one.

Literally fascist - this is their logo;

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:02:40pm

re: #206 MsJ

And standing fans to blow dry under the carpets. My insurance company paid to mitigate water damage…$14k to have like 6 GIANT sized fans running 24/7 for like a week.

Room dehumidifier works best in that fans partly don’t take out every bit of moisture, partly because moisture can migrate, but it is a good step while you do the first run and hunt for dehumidifiers after having dried up what you can with rags. But in a very dry climate, it will work.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:04:14pm

re: #175 Citizen K

It’s the difference between saying someone was ‘turned’ evil and saying someone was evil all along. The former is considered more of a victim and the latter an inherent monster.

And guess who turned him from being angelic?

ISIS devils like Omar Mateen.

That is how I see it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:04:34pm
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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:05:07pm

re: #212 Teukka

Room dehumidifier works best in that fans partly don’t take out every bit of moisture, partly because moisture can migrate, but it is a good step while you do the first run and hunt for dehumidifiers after having dried up what you can with rags. But in a very dry climate, it will work.

Another thing is to rent one of those shampooers with two metal tubs (soapy water and dirty water) and use the power of the suction to soak up the carpets. Them do the humidifier and fan bit. But get up as much actual wet as possible.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:06:59pm

re: #179 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t the point, though, of both articles that almost anyone (especially someone young and naive) can be transformed into a monster or maniac by a toxic ideology that makes enemies of those who are different and targets them for murder? Or makes enemies of those who don’t share your ideology or those who don’t worship your cult leader?

Where in the headlines does Mateen get the benefit of ever having been angelic?

All Mateen gets is being a maniac, probably was that way all his life, they all are.

Again, that’s how I see it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:08:00pm

happy news:

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sagehen  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:08:08pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

Where in the headlines does Mateen get the benefit of ever having been angelic?

All Mateen gets is being a maniac, probably was that way all his life, they all are.

Again, that’s how I see it.

Also… front-page full-page photos make more of an impression than the contents of the article, or even the subhead.

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Targetpractice  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:09:46pm

re: #202 sagehen

Correct me if I’m wrong, but… don’t “women, nonwhites and 18-34 year olds” add up to about 70% of the electorate?

Probably more than that in her district.

The comments to the initial tweet are pretty much all pointing that out. He’s responding by saying it was (effectively) a throw-away post of his, that anybody who’s pointing out that he’s discounting large sections of the electorate are “upset,” and trying to concern troll that AOC is not appealing to Republicans.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:10:35pm

re: #215 MsJ

Another thing is to rent one of those shampooers with two metal tubs (soapy water and dirty water) and use the power of the suction to soak up the carpets. Them do the humidifier and fan bit. But get up as much actual wet as possible.

Kitty Litter does a good (cheap) job of absorbing. Silica gel is much better, but harder to find. If all fails, Habitat for Humanity “ReStores” often have dirt-cheap new laminate and carpeting.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:10:48pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Harrison isn’t the ideal example for electing someone who is older — after all he died 31 days into his term.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:11:43pm

re: #190 Targetpractice

Simpler explanation: Huckleberry Butch-Me-Up is facing reelection next year and he’s scared shitless that an even crazier Trumper will primary him unless he pledges absolute loyalty to Hair Furor.

There was a time when everyone needed to first kiss the emperor’s ring.

Trump wants everyone to kiss his ass.

Get in line.

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ThomasLite  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:12:28pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

Harrison isn’t the ideal example for electing someone who is older — after all he died 31 days into his term.

True. To be fair though - he died of typhoid. In an era before antibiotics and vaccination. That could have easily happened to a 50 year old bloke just the same.
It’s unfortunate and clearly not great optics but it’s kind of irrelevant IMO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:15:52pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

Harrison isn’t the ideal example for electing someone who is older — after all he died 31 days into his term.

He wasn’t president either…the Harrison Land Act of 1800 was when he was in the House of Representatives, representing the Northwest Territory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:18:49pm

I know more about WHH than just about any other president because he was a hometown boy and it was required that we all be WHH experts in school there.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:21:36pm

re: #204 Grunthos the Flatulent

Australian senator, please. And his election there was a freak artefact of their preferential voting system.

Perhaps he’s feeling the heat because the terrorist is an Australian citizen.

(NZ has a unicameral legislature. There is no Upper House of any description.)

Thanks for the correction.

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ThomasLite  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:21:41pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know more about WHH than just about any other president because he was a hometown boy and it was required that we all be WHH experts in school there.

dodged a bullet there then, with him only lasting 31 days.

(just in case: kidding ofc)

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Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:23:10pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

I’m in the middle of a real disaster in my house. The water line to my refrigerator was leaking unseen for several days, and it spread into the adjoining bedroom. Now I’m going to have to replace a whole lot of carpet and flooring, and I’m panicking because I really cannot afford this right now.

If you have homeowners or rental ins. Use it.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:23:39pm

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Kitty Litter does a good (cheap) job of absorbing. Silica gel is much better, but harder to find. If all fails, Habitat for Humanity “ReStores” often have dirt-cheap new laminate and carpeting.

And carpeting stores have roim sized remnants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:23:47pm

re: #227 ThomasLite

dodged a bullet there then, with him only lasting 31 days.

(just in case: kidding ofc)

ah…but there was a lot of other stuff he did before he became president.
Even after he died, there was stuff…like when his body was stolen from the tomb to be sold as a medical cadaver.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:25:56pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

Where in the headlines does Mateen get the benefit of ever having been angelic?

All Mateen gets is being a maniac, probably was that way all his life, they all are.

Again, that’s how I see it.

Edit to add: I am not saying Muslims are maniacs.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:26:09pm

Might get lucky, pull out the carpet and dry out. Shopvac might help.

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ThomasLite  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:27:43pm

re: #204 Grunthos the Flatulent

Australian senator, please. And his election there was a freak artefact of their preferential voting system.

Perhaps he’s feeling the heat because the terrorist is an Australian citizen.

(NZ has a unicameral legislature. There is no Upper House of any description.)

Except it kind of really wasn’t? Their system is fairly similar to what we have around here - candidates are listed by party, and members get elected in order of number of votes attained except when enough voters as would normally be enough for a seat vote for someone far enough down the list that he wouldn’t otherwise get elected; in that case that candidate takes precedence over the normal ranking on that list.
Most of Europe basically elects their legislatures that way. And the guy third on the list only getting a handful of preferential votes with most voters just ticking the top box on the list is basically expected.
Yeah, the second on the list turned out not to be eligible due to immigration issues (which for an anti-immigration party is fecking hilarious) and that got him in as third on the list. Honestly though, that’s not a freak of the system so much as it is the system working as intended.
Third on the list for a party that wins two seats is NOT an unelectable position. Not even close.

…This all quite aside from him being an enormous ass, of course. But that’s the thing with democracy; voters are often more than capable of electing a couple of those without it being “a freak of the system”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:29:03pm
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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:30:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:31:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:33:42pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:33:55pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I love these. “Grey light” is a good touch.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:36:34pm

GOOD GOD NO.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:37:54pm

re: #238 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I love these. “Grey light” is a good touch.

It really is.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:45:23pm

re: #239 MsJ

GOOD GOD NO.

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All tame and non-venomous. They love to suck out your body heat.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:47:29pm

re: #241 Dave In Austin

All tame and non-venomous. They love to suck out your body heat.

Nope. No. No. Never. Nope.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:48:13pm

re: #239 MsJ

At least its not a pile of Flerkens

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:48:40pm

re: #243 Sufficient unto the day…

At least its not a pile of Flerkens

Or Tarantulas.

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wrenchwench  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:51:27pm

re: #241 Dave In Austin

… They love to suck out your body heat.

None to spare. Sorry, kinda.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:52:16pm

re: #235 Sufficient unto the day…

Among the nations assisting Ireland—The Choctaw, who had just learned about being driven from your land:

atlasobscura.com

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:56:28pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:58:29pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Wow, I’d never heard this story before. Incredible.

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Teukka  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:58:41pm

Spoilered because NSFW:

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:59:21pm

And about those Fenians:

When Irish-Americans Attacked Canada—With the White House’s Blessing
history.com

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 16, 2019 • 1:59:50pm

re: #233 ThomasLite

NZ uses a Mixed Member Proprtional system, very similar to Germany’s I believe. Is that what you’re describing? Voters have two choices: a local candidate for the electorate they reside in, and a vote for a party. Between them, they ensure the makeup of the House reflects the makeup of the popular vote. Like your local representative but don’t like her party? Vote for her, but for the other party of your choice (or don’t cast a party vote at all.)

Australia uses a couple of variants of the Single Transferable Vote system. STV makes my brain bleed, but basically requires you to rank your choices of candidates. That part I understand; the voodoo is in determining the winner. Someone below (fern01 I think) said the Reprehensible Senator was only the first choice of 19 voters.

I always stand to be corrected, however.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:04:30pm

re: #250 Decatur Deb

heh…my great-grandfather’s uncles and cousins.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:06:21pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…my great-grandfather’s uncles and cousins.

I’ve got several family stories about that incident

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:07:33pm

81 here in Los Angeles. Opening windows for the first time since October to put the kitchen fan and main room air conditioner in!

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ThomasLite  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:07:47pm

re: #251 Grunthos the Flatulent

NZ uses a Mixed Member Proprtional system, very similar to Germany’s I believe. Is that what you’re describing? Voters have two choices: a local candidate for the electorate they reside in, and a vote for a party. Between them, they ensure the makeup of the House reflects the makeup of the popular vote. Like your local representative but don’t like her party? Vote for her, but for the other party of your choice (or don’t cast a party vote at all.)

Australia uses a couple of variants of the Single Transferable Vote system. STV makes my brain bleed, but basically requires you to rank your choices of candidates. That part I understand; the voodoo is in determining the winner. Someone below (fern01 I think) said the Reprehensible Senator was only the first choice of 19 voters.

I always stand to be corrected, however.

Honestly I am just going off of a description of the process that got this guy elected in a piece from a fairly respectable publication I read last night. He’s Australian so it wouldn’t be the NZ system, I’d say.

It sure as hell didn’t sound like any STV system I’m familiar with (then again those are pretty diverse even among themselves and as you said, fairly complex). Basically the first on the list got just about enough preferential votes for two seats (250K or so?), the second guy got a couple thousand but turned out to be ineligible and the third on the list simply got in on the coattails of that first listed candidate.

The party I usually vote for here in the Netherlands has had 10+ seats with none of the candidates other than no.1 getting enough “”“”individual”“”” votes for a seat. First on the list got enough for ten or so. That gets your first ten or more listed candidates in and voters completely expect this. To argue those others are only elected because of a freak error in the system would be completely asinine. Outside of a district system (like the US and UK systems) that’s basically the norm AFAIK.

I’d have to dig a lot deeper to be really sure (and sorry, I’m kinda too busy) but it really feels as if it’s only remotely like a freak system malfunction to the, shall we say, distinct minority worldwide who are reflexively accustomed to district systems. (Don’t get me wrong, IMO there’s something to be said for that approach - but being so accustomed to it does risk warping perspective a little when discussing other systems…)

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:09:03pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

We could be related. One of the leaders carried our rare surname, though I don’t know of a direct line here that early.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:09:15pm

I just got home. I forgot that today is the St Paddy’s Day Pub Crawl. From 30th Street station to Broad St traffic was at a crawl. It is a sea of people in various shades of green going from one bar to another.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:10:35pm

re: #256 Decatur Deb

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:11:47pm

re: #254 Joe Bacon 🌹

81 here in Los Angeles. Opening windows for the first time since October to put the kitchen fan and main room air conditioner in!

Feeling better Joe?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:15:10pm

re: #192 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any reason to believe that this isn’t who he really is? I don’t think there is any evidence that he was ever a decent person. He’s always been a Republican tool who cares nothing about what is right for the nation — a party over country person during his entire public life.

The only reason I could give is that centrist establishment Democrats (who know him and are friends) had vouched for him as someone who would do the right thing in the end (disregarding his history of not doing the right thing).

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:17:29pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:17:32pm

this thread…i’m dying…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:18:41pm

re: #261 Decatur Deb

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:18:47pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

Feeling better Joe?

Fever finally broke last night. Still congested and weak. All I can do to open windows. Feel so bad for Charles wish I could help him!

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:19:56pm

re: #255 ThomasLite

Well I guess the system worked as designed, so I take your point it’s no more asinine than, say, Murka’s Electoral College.

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ThomasLite  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:21:36pm

re: #265 Grunthos the Flatulent

Well I guess the system worked as designed, so I take your point it’s no more asinine than, say, Murka’s Electoral College.

Honestly I’d argue both to be a good thing, so I guess we’ll… agree to agree? on that? :P

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:22:20pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:23:46pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol. They enjoyed it too. Good.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:23:58pm

re: #254 Joe Bacon 🌹

It is a spectacular day. I can hardly keep the hummingbird feeder full what with all the migrating ones coming in hungry and tired.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:25:55pm

are they not letting the moron play golf today?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:26:29pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Among the nations assisting Ireland—The Choctaw, who had just learned about being driven from your land:

atlasobscura.com

My ancestors! Well, an eighth of them. About a quarter were Irish, though. Norman-Irish, if that counts…

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:29:43pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

this thread…i’m dying…

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The ears on that shepherd…freaking radar dishes. Nice looking doggo.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:38:12pm

re: #271 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My ancestors! Well, an eighth of them. About a quarter were Irish, though. Norman-Irish, if that counts…

I screwed that up. I’m half Norwegian, a quarter Border Reiver like George MacDonald Fraser wrote about in The Steel Bonnets, an eighth Norman-Irish and an eighth Choctaw.

And I still had to edit this twice to make it add up to one. I think another pot of coffee is in order….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:38:22pm

moron

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:38:38pm

re: #272 ObserverArt

The ears on that shepherd…freaking radar dishes. Nice looking doggo.

The white and black one is very like the dog we adopted last year in shape (ours has a bit less black patches).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:41:57pm

re: #275 Barefoot Grin

The white and black one is very like the dog we adopted last year in shape (ours has a bit less black patches).

The yellow kitty is just like our Pumpkin we lost a couple of years ago!

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retired cynic  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:42:10pm

re: #269 Unshaken Defiance

It is a spectacular day. I can hardly keep the hummingbird feeder full what with all the migrating ones coming in hungry and tired.

A friend who lives up by Sacramento had a water line break in the spring one year, and spray water every which direction. He said it seemed like there were thousands of Anna’s hummingbirds arriving to enjoy the shower.

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:54:57pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:57:50pm

re: #278 MsJ

That is awful news. This is very sad news.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 2:59:20pm

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:02:43pm

re: #280 Joe Bacon 🌹

J Carrey? Jim Carrey the actor? That is a very good drawing and a well said comment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:03:42pm

re: #281 PhillyPretzel

J Carrey? Jim Carrey the actor? That is a very good drawing and a well said comment.

he has been doing a lot of scathing social comment drawings/paintings

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:04:16pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Very well done. He is good.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:09:55pm

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

Very well done. He is good.

Honestly never had any use for him as an actor, and really developed an antipathy to all his anti-vax bullshit when he and Jenny McCarthy were together, but his paintings in the tRump era have been very good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:10:24pm

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

Very well done. He is good.

check his twitter TL to see more of his stuff

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plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:12:08pm

Make sure to have the sound on. :D

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:13:40pm

re: #286 plansbandc

That made me smile. Thanks.

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plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:16:36pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

Beautiful! Thank you for this.

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plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:19:44pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

That thread made my day. I want someone to do an animation.

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Old Liberal  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:22:05pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Among the nations assisting Ireland—The Choctaw, who had just learned about being driven from your land:

atlasobscura.com

When you read the article you see the white media of the time reporting that it was the efforts of the white man that effected the generosity. Same shit Hollywood does with their movies.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:22:55pm

Opened the window, forgot the screen was taken out and a couple butterflies came to visit me fluttering around the room. Maybe they were saying Get Well Soon but it sure was a nice visit as they fluttered out my main door…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:24:04pm

re: #289 plansbandc

That thread made my day. I want someone to do an animation.

and am still dying…

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plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:24:38pm

re: #291 Joe Bacon 🌹

A lovely “Don’t worry, be happy” sign from the universe.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:25:25pm
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plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:25:40pm

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

I lost it completely when the dogs locked them out.

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unproven innocence  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:26:26pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

check his twitter TL to see more of his stuff

Found many here: thewrap.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:36:30pm

Witness in Berlusconi’s bunga-bunga trial ‘poisoned’

A Moroccan-born model who attended Silvio Berlusconi’s bunga-bunga dinners has died in hospital, allegedly killed by radioactive poisoning.

Magistrates opened a murder investigation after the death this month of Iman Fadil, 34, who was due to give evidence at the former Italian prime minister’s bribery trial….

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retired cynic  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:38:54pm

re: #297 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

whoa….

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plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:41:22pm

re: #297 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just brutal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:48:42pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:48:52pm

Just out of curiosity—is there any reason to make polonium-210 any more? We quit using old-fashioned initiators in nuclear weapons 60 years ago, I haven’t seen an anti-static card to put on the tone arm of your turntable for 40, and they must not use it in smoke detectors any more, since they last longer than 6 months now. Is murder the only use for it nowadays?

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:52:16pm

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

Notice how the Prime Minister of New Zealand immediately said she was going work to strengthen gun laws rather than suggesting the Muslims should have been armed?

I didn’t hear her say she was going to work to strengthen gun laws. I heard her say

Our gun laws will change
theguardian.com

This is not the US administration holding talks which will lead to nothing (Sandy Hook) - this is not a country saying it is too soon to talk about guns (every gun event in the US) - the NZ gun laws will be changed.

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A hollow voice says, Collusion!  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:54:09pm

re: #301 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just out of curiosity—is there any reason to make polonium-210 any more? We quit using old-fashioned initiators in nuclear weapons 60 years ago, I haven’t seen an anti-static card to put on the tone arm of your turntable for 40, and they must not use it in smoke detectors any more, since they last longer than 6 months now. Is murder the only use for it nowadays?

The internet tells me it’s used to make static eliminators.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 16, 2019 • 3:54:10pm

A 50th victim’s body has been found at the Deans Ave mosque.

There is anger here. Arms legislation changes will be very difficult to oppose, and we are likely to end up much closer to Australia’s gun laws. This licensed firearm owner approves.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:02:25pm

re: #303 A hollow voice says, Collusion!

The internet tells me it’s used to make static eliminators.

Always had a couple square inches in the darkroom to un-zap negatives. Of course there are many fewer square miles of negatives, now.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:04:08pm

Yes, I found the attacks on Chelsea Clinton uncalled for, but this is a good thread, at least for me, to understand the other side:

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Interesting Times  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:07:23pm

Me neither (sound on):

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:09:57pm

re: #171 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

And Lindsay’s twitter has a photo of him with Brett Kavanaugh - I threw up

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:12:05pm

re: #307 Interesting Times

Me neither (sound on):

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“The media could not be played”, like about a third of Twitter videos lately.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:12:51pm

Thread:

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Interesting Times  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:16:21pm

re: #309 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“The media could not be played”, like about a third of Twitter videos lately.

“The media” most definitely CAN be played (trump and the GOPers do it all the time)

Seriously though, maybe it might work if you click the video icon? (it’s the last one on the right, next to retweet, and looks like an old-school film negative)

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:18:03pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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But the minions are standing before him & bowing down to him while they honor his wisdom. No words to describe how disgusting it is.

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Belafon  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:19:08pm

re: #310 jaunte

Thread:

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She might need to see if there’s a ring on his paw or ask someone if there is a curse on him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:20:56pm

re: #311 Interesting Times

“The media” most definitely CAN be played (trump and the GOPers do it all the time)

Seriously though, maybe it might work if you click the video icon? (it’s the last one on the right, next to retweet, and looks like an old-school film negative)

Tried that, and went to the Twitter page. It’s just Firefox. Twitter hates Firefox.

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:20:56pm

re: #192 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any reason to believe that this isn’t who he really is? I don’t think there is any evidence that he was ever a decent person. He’s always been a Republican tool who cares nothing about what is right for the nation — a party over country person during his entire public life.

Being willing to work for trump proves who he is.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:21:17pm

re: #286 plansbandc

Make sure to have the sound on. :D

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Feed me!!! Human. What else you got to do?

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:28:04pm

re: #204 Grunthos the Flatulent

Australian senator, please. And his election there was a freak artefact of their preferential voting system.

Perhaps he’s feeling the heat because the terrorist is an Australian citizen.

(NZ has a unicameral legislature. There is no Upper House of any description.)

It was also the result of people with dual citizenship (often British/Australian) not knowing the law as to being elected to the Australian Parliament. This fool was last in his party’s list but the person elected was thrown out because of dual citizenship, so by default he was the replacement. He then left the RW bigots party & joined another RW (almost as bigoted) party & they threw him out because of his white supremacy views - but he stays in parliament until the next election. He won’t be re-elected.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:31:22pm

Life in my house:

“Why in the world did you buy a gallon of vinegar?”

“Because I won’t pay $2.99 for a quart when a gallon is $3.99. I just won’t do it.”

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:33:05pm

re: #318 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If you buy a gallon AND a quart bottle you can use the gallon to refill the quart when it gets low.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:33:41pm

//

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:34:23pm

re: #318 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I bought a gallon of vinegar because it was on sale for $2.99. That and I found a recipe for a homemade weed killer. Vinegar, salt and a few drops of dish detergent.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:34:47pm

re: #319 jaunte

If you buy a gallon AND a quart bottle you can use the gallon to refill the quart when it gets low.

Which is just what I’m doing. I assume with the quart at least half of the price is the glass bottle.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:35:18pm

Vinegar is very useful. Far better material by which to clean windows than all those over-priced streak-causing blue spray liquids.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:37:01pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:37:11pm

re: #318 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Life in my house:

“Why in the world did you buy a gallon of vinegar?”

“Because I won’t pay $2.99 for a quart when a gallon is $3.99. I just won’t do it.”

I buy gallons all the time. Vinegar is a great household product. I use it on all the tile I have in the bathroom. Keeps the grout clean and tile shining. I use 1 to 5 vinegar to water for cleaning video screens. Works great.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:37:47pm

re: #323 freetoken

Vinegar is very useful. Far better material by which to clean windows than all those over-priced streak-causing blue spray liquids.

Also the “buttermilk” in my pancakes is 1 3/4 cup milk and 1/4 cup vinegar.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:39:41pm

re: #326 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Also the “buttermilk” in my pancakes is 1 3/4 cup milk and 1/4 cup vinegar.

That activates all of the ingredients doesn’t it, making for a richer cake?

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:39:45pm

re: #317 fern01

It was also the result of people with dual citizenship (often British/Australian) not knowing the law as to being elected to the Australian Parliament.

Wasn’t there recently a senior member of one of the mainstream parties who had dual NZ/Aus citizenship and fell into that trap?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:40:04pm

re: #325 ObserverArt

I buy gallons all the time. Vinegar is a great household product. I use it on all the tile I have in the bathroom. Keeps the grout clean and tile shining. I use 1 to 5 vinegar to water for cleaning video screens. Works great.

Being as sensitive as I am to “deodorant” soap, it’s a really good pre-shower deodorant wash. Sorry if TMI….

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:41:35pm

re: #327 ObserverArt

That activates all of the ingredients doesn’t it, making for a richer cake?

Could be. I’ve tried real buttermilk—it just didn’t seem as good. But mainly I’m cheap.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:42:29pm

So the PowerBall jackpot is nearing real money again: $495 Million, Cash Value: $300.2 Million.

For those who missed it, the winner of last fall’s big MegaMillions jackpot finally came forward to claim her prize:

$1.5 Billion Jackpot Winner Tells Story

After much anticipation, the winner of the $1.5 billion dollar Mega Millions jackpot came forward to claim her prize last week. She has chosen to remain anonymous.

Last October, the record breaking Mega Millions jackpot captivated the nation. Millions of people held their breath as the winning numbers were revealed. In South Carolina, the ultimate dream was realized. This South Carolinian was in town visiting Greenville, and decided to go on a scenic drive during some down time. As fate would have it, her drive took her past the KC Mart, where the signs showing the incredibly large jackpot caught her eye. She decided to take a chance and purchase a ticket, never once thinking she had the slightest chance to win. After checking her ticket the morning after the drawing, she was in complete shock and disbelief. She stared motionless at the ticket for what felt like hours, then came the jumping and screams of joy.

The winner spent time researching experienced professionals to help preserve her anonymity and manage her newfound wealth. “I hired a team with experience handling large jackpot winners,” the winner said. “I want to make sure I make all of the right decisions, which is why I have taken this amount of time to collect my prize.”

“Words can’t describe the feeling of such incredible luck,” the winner said. “I do realize that such good fortune carries a tremendous social responsibility, and it gives me a unique opportunity to assist, support and contribute to charities and causes that are close to my heart.”

Jason Kurland announced that the winner would like to begin her philanthropic endeavors and show her appreciation to the State of South Carolina and the City of Simpsonville by providing charitable donations to the following organizations:

Ronald McDonald House of Charities of Columbia, SC
One SC Fund - for Hurricane Florence Relief
In The Middle, Columbia, SC
City of Simpsonville Art Center
American Red Cross Alabama Region - Tornado Relief Fund
As anyone could imagine, this is a life-changing moment, and while winning such a large sum is undoubtedly a blessing, it comes with its own set of risks and challenges. In this age of social media, where you can find information on just about anybody, including where someone lives and works, safety is a significant concern. The winner noted that she is thankful that South Carolina allows lottery winners to claim their prize anonymously and sincerely hopes that her wish to remain anonymous is respected so that she can live a life of relative normalcy, free of fear.

Kurland added, “The South Carolina Education Lottery staff was extremely professional and dutiful through each phase of the claim process. Their handling of the extensive detail and challenges associated with the anonymity of the winner was exceptional and I am grateful for their efforts.”

Two things:

First she hired a lawyer (who wrote this release for MM) who services lottery winners. I would not do that as any decent estate lawyer should be able to do the job and frankly I suspect the lottery-specialist is like the ambulance chaser type of lawyer.

Second, note how the press release goes on about social responsibility. My question is, why does our society expect this of average people who win money, but at the same time let obnoxious wealthy (read Trump, but also Mercer, etc.) get away with just being greedy?

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:43:31pm

South Carolina is one of the few states which allows winners to remain anonymous.

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ThomasLite  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:44:45pm

re: #321 PhillyPretzel

I bought a gallon of vinegar because it was on sale for $2.99. That and I found a recipe for a homemade weed killer. Vinegar, salt and a few drops of dish detergent.

You’ll want to watch out with that stuff if you ever want plants to grow in the same patch again. Don’t get me wrong, it worked quite well for me at a previous address when I absolutely had to get rid of some particularly obnoxious weeds that just kept popping out from under a tiled garden terrace but I suspect if the current (or future) residents ever want to take that terrace out and grow something there again they’ll have to get rid of the ridiculously salted soil (because make no mistake, it takes a LOT of that stuff to actually get rid of weeds).
If you just want to get rid of some weeds rather than locally nuking mother nature into next week (which was my whole objective TBH), consider something glyphosate-based. Contrary to popular hysteria it’s quite safe and it works at much more sane dosages ;)

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Kilroy was here  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:45:07pm

re: #307 Interesting Times

The teen was just getting Sen. Fraser Anning’s help to separate the whites.
(stolen from the Washington Post comment section.. )

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:48:31pm

re: #318 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Life in my house:

“Why in the world did you buy a gallon of vinegar?”

“Because I won’t pay $2.99 for a quart when a gallon is $3.99. I just won’t do it.”

Greek salad.
Lots of Greek salad.

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:49:46pm

Not to berate lawyers.

But I have to wonder how much extra someone who specializes in lottery winners charges for their services?

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freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:50:44pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Greek salad.
Lots of Greek salad.

Lots of baking soda rockets.

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:50:46pm

re: #251 Grunthos the Flatulent

Australia uses a couple of variants of the Single Transferable Vote system. STV makes my brain bleed, but basically requires you to rank your choices of candidates. That part I understand; the voodoo is in determining the winner. Someone below (fern01 I think) said the Reprehensible Senator was only the first choice of 19 voters.

I always stand to be corrected, however.

It wasn’t me (I don’t think) but the 19 is correct.

We have 2 voting systems. For the House of reps we use Preferential voting (I think the US call this Ranked Choice). You number all the candidates from 1 and the count is fairly simple.

For the Senate we have Proportional Representation voting - and people can number each candidate OR they can number each Political party (who put their candidates in order). This used to be not too complicated when you had to number each candidate but there got to be so many candidates that wasn’t feasible - so the other options started. It is the numbering of Political Parties option that allowed someone to get elected with only 19 primary votes.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:53:24pm

re: #337 freetoken

Lots of baking soda rockets.

1:72 scale science fair volcano.

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:55:16pm
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calochortus  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:55:44pm

re: #325 ObserverArt

I buy gallons all the time. Vinegar is a great household product. I use it on all the tile I have in the bathroom. Keeps the grout clean and tile shining. I use 1 to 5 vinegar to water for cleaning video screens. Works great.

Vinegar and Dawn dishwashing liquid 1:1 cleans icky buildup in a shower like nothing in the world. You can apply it with a sponge or a spray bottle, let it sit a bit, give it a light scrub, and rinse.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:56:48pm

re: #341 calochortus

Thanks for the tip. I am book-marked it.

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calochortus  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:57:30pm

re: #342 PhillyPretzel

Thanks for the tip. I am book-marked it.

LGF. Come for the political commentary, stay for the cleaning tips! And recipes…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:58:22pm

re: #343 calochortus

Some really great photos. :)

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calochortus  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:58:59pm

re: #344 PhillyPretzel

Some really great photos. :)

Let’s face it, it’s a wonderful place. (Thanks, Charles!)

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retired cynic  Mar 16, 2019 • 4:59:46pm

re: #325 ObserverArt

I buy gallons all the time. Vinegar is a great household product. I use it on all the tile I have in the bathroom. Keeps the grout clean and tile shining. I use 1 to 5 vinegar to water for cleaning video screens. Works great.

I use it for many things, including cleaning my CPAP machine!

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wrenchwench  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:00:48pm

re: #346 retired cynic

I use it for many things, including cleaning my CPAP machine!

LGF? Oh, vinegar!

Nevermind….

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fern01  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:02:34pm

re: #255 ThomasLite

Basically the first on the list got just about enough preferential votes for two seats (250K or so?), the second guy got a couple thousand but turned out to be ineligible and the third on the list simply got in on the coattails of that first listed candidate.

Good description. Proportional Representation says e.g 5 people will be voted for in this district. If there are 1 million voters, a person is elected when they have 200,000 votes. Any extra votes they get are passed down to the next person from the same party. Counting down to the 5th winner takes a long time!

In this particular case, one candidate being ineligible gave those excess votes to the next down the list. There was some discussion as to having another election because of ineligible candidates but someone (the courts probably, I don’t remember) ruled that the next eligible party member would be elected.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:17:49pm

moron is so upset that he’s retweeting his nonsense from yesterday

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:18:53pm

LGF Reverse Image Search ahoy! What the hell is this?


(Sorry about the rotation.)
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:20:54pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmm. Do you think someone told him that Mueller has got the “dirt” on him and he will reveal it? Or the fact that the entire House of Representatives voted that Mueller’s report should be made public?

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:22:21pm

The Office of Special Plans is back in business.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:22:33pm

re: #350 Grunthos the Flatulent

I could be wrong but it looks like a tulip.

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jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:23:34pm

re: #350 Grunthos the Flatulent

Sarcoscypha occidentalis?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:26:34pm

From The Free Dictionary:
thefreedictionary.com

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:28:32pm

re: #341 calochortus

Vinegar and Dawn dishwashing liquid 1:1 cleans icky buildup in a shower like nothing in the world. You can apply it with a sponge or a spray bottle, let it sit a bit, give it a light scrub, and rinse.

Dawn cleans all kinds of stuff. It is an amazing product and you don’t even need to use a lot.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:30:01pm

re: #354 jaunte

I was thinking some sort of stinkhorn

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:30:52pm

re: #356 ObserverArt

Dawn cleans all kinds of stuff. It is an amazing product and you don’t even need to use a lot.

Dawn Platinum™, after disappearing for a while, is now 4x concentrated instead of 3x. Buying anything else is a false economy, trust me.

359
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:31:19pm

can’t find another source

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wrenchwench  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:31:24pm

re: #355 PhillyPretzel

From The Free Dictionary:
thefreedictionary.com

From there:

Discomycetes

I think there were a lot of those in the 70s. With a reflective ball in the middle. Smelled funny, sounded OK, if you like that sort of thing.

/

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:33:36pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

can’t find another source

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:36:03pm

re: #361 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

thanks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:38:44pm
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calochortus  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:42:54pm

re: #350 Grunthos the Flatulent

LGF Reverse Image Search ahoy! What the hell is this?

[Embedded content]

(Sorry about the rotation.)

Haemanthus? Possibly Haemanthus coccineus? There are a bunch of them, so it could be a different one.

(With credit to Mr. C. for the answer.)

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Varek Raith  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:44:07pm

re: #350 Grunthos the Flatulent

LGF Reverse Image Search ahoy! What the hell is this?

[Embedded content]

(Sorry about the rotation.)

Ya’ll are wrong. This is obviously RON PAUL.

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ObserverArt  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:47:17pm

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Fuck Ken Starr.

Zero credibility in my book.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:48:53pm

re: #364 calochortus

Haemanthus? Possibly Haemanthus coccineus? There are a bunch of them, so it could be a different one.

(With credit to Mr. C. for the answer.)

I think that’s it!

Flower looks like a flattened tulip, petals are rubbery. It is a succulent. Yellow stamens inside.

Thank you all.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:49:28pm

If it pleases you…..
Hey Charles, you get the mess dried up?

Bangs!

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calochortus  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:49:29pm

re: #367 Grunthos the Flatulent

We’re here to serve!

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calochortus  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:50:58pm

Dinnertime. BBL

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 16, 2019 • 5:52:45pm

This is leadership

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has said the New Zealand government will cover the burial costs of those who lost their lives in the terrorist attacks at two mosques in Christchurch.

Speaking to some of the family members of the 49 people who were killed, she gave them the reassurance that the government would also provide financial support to the families regardless of their immigration status.

IMLfeed.com

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plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:03:29pm

re: #341 calochortus

I’m going to try this! Hard water build up in our shower.

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bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:06:46pm

re: #361 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

[Embedded content]

I’d be surprised if FoxNews fires her, she is a friend of Trump and they can’t make him mad. They just can’t, FoxNews is caught in a trap of their own making.

But any day without Jeanine is a better day though.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:10:10pm

re: #373 bd (Emergency!)

I’d be surprised if FoxNews fires her, she is a friend of Trump and they can’t make him mad. They just can’t, FoxNews is caught in a trap of their own making.

But any day without Jeanine is a better day though.

The extremely libreal Fox News has sencered Jugde Janine!!! I’m switching to ONAA!!!

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:12:56pm

re: #373 bd (Emergency!)

I’d be surprised if FoxNews fires her, she is a friend of Trump and they can’t make him mad. They just can’t, FoxNews is caught in a trap of their own making.

But any day without Jeanine is a better day though.

SCJOTUS Jeanine.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:13:20pm

1000X

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bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:17:22pm

re: #375 MsJ

SCJOTUS Jeanine.

LOL, Trump’s friends seem to somehow always fail upwards after defending Hair Furor’s beliefs.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:18:50pm

re: #377 bd (Emergency!)

LOL, Trump’s friends seem to somehow always fail upwards after defending Hair Furor’s beliefs.

Only the ones not headed for jail.

379
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:20:08pm

re: #376 Dave In Austin

Somewhere in China, judging from the cars and surroundings. Every city has a small army of those street sweepers, who are often pensioners, tidying up after their more slovenly fellow citizens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:20:10pm

omg…this little girl don’t need no cape…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:22:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:22:18pm

Cincinnati kids:

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wrenchwench  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:27:58pm

re: #381 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Flickers and buzzes sweep mouse brains of Alzheimer’s plaques

Finger-snapping will make a comeback. They’ll have to test worry beads.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:28:27pm

re: #379 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’d still like to shake that fine young man’s hand……

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MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:28:35pm

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cincinnati kids:

[Embedded content]

What a difference a teacher makes, eh?

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:34:12pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:36:50pm

re: #386 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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There are a million ways the FSU could kill anybody they wanted to. They’re not even trying to hide it any more—they’re advertising it.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:42:42pm

re: #215 MsJ

Another thing is to rent one of those shampooers with two metal tubs (soapy water and dirty water) and use the power of the suction to soak up the carpets. Them do the humidifier and fan bit. But get up as much actual wet as possible.

Yeah, I’ve been working on this all day. Pulled up the carpet, which is always fun. Got three big industrial blowers going in there now. This is so fucked up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:44:00pm

re: #376 Dave In Austin

1000X

[Embedded content]

If someone did that in the US they would probably wind up shot…

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Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:45:45pm

Snarky Puppy, Metropole Orkest - The Clearing
This takes a serious swing at the 6 min mark.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 6:59:23pm

re: #390 Dave In Austin

That’s a journey there….. No other way to put it.

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plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:02:20pm
393
Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:05:57pm
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bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:09:31pm

re: #386 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

[Embedded content]

We living in a messed up age. Cyber national warfare taking down governments mixed with Renaissance classic romantic poisoning.

I’m not so sure those two will mesh well?

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bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:11:08pm

re: #392 plansbandc

[Embedded content]

The omg I am so saurus.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:11:16pm

re: #393 Dave In Austin

Um… What the actual fuck?

397
Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:27:28pm

re: #396 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I ran into that after going down @RacismDogs timeline. Maybe the context is wrong when @RacismDog’s only reply to racism is “BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK”.
i.e.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:28:45pm

re: #397 Dave In Austin

I ran into that after going down @RacismDogs timeline. Maybe the context is wrong when @RacismDog’s only reply to racism is “BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK”.
i.e.

I do believe it is a warning. One that is sadly being ignored.

399
Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:32:50pm
400
bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:35:36pm

re: #397 Dave In Austin

I ran into that after going down @RacismDogs timeline. Maybe the context is wrong when @RacismDog’s only reply to racism is “BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK”.
i.e.

[Embedded content]

It really sucks now but the wingnuts taking the mask off completely now will make the case of “Christian” values vs. Christ’s values, basic human decency of right vs. wrong, science vs. diatribe and bigotry vs. adopting.

I hope there are enough decent people left to try and re-seize the good USA. We’ll see.

401
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:37:11pm

re: #400 bd (Emergency!)

It really sucks now but the wingnuts taking the mask off completely now will make the case of “Christian” values vs. Christ’s values, basic human decency of right vs. wrong, science vs. diatribe and bigotry vs. adopting.

I hope there are enough decent people left to try and re-seize the good USA. We’ll see.

They sure aren’t in the churches. Most churches now worship Trump and bow before The Golden Elephant.

402
jaunte  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:38:39pm
403
MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:39:16pm
404
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:39:59pm

re: #403 MsJ

Is the ACLU going to challenge that in the courts?

405
MsJ  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:40:55pm

re: #404 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is the ACLU going to challenge that in the courts?

Maybe. Someone will.

406
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:42:06pm

re: #399 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

According to Wikipedia(en.wikipedia.org), the author favors Libertarianism, so obviously he is hostile to Democrats:

Shafer has written supportively of libertarianism. He wrote, “Traditionally, the state censors and marginalizes voices while private businesses tend to remain tolerant.”[4] In 2000, he explained his political views as follows: “I agree with the Libertarian Party platform: much smaller government, much lower taxes, an end to income redistribution, repeal of the drug laws, fewer gun laws, a dismantled welfare state, an end to corporate subsidies, First Amendment absolutism, a scaled-back warfare state. (You get the idea.)”

407
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:43:45pm

re: #406 Hecuba’s daughter

According to Wikipedia(en.wikipedia.org), the author favors Libertarianism, so obviously he is hostile to Democrats:

Just another ass who believes in a Laissez Fairyland until he has a heart attack with no health insurance!

408
William Lewis  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:45:16pm

Ok, this is just the most thought provoking bit of althistory I’ve seen in a very long time.

What if Wilson’s election didn’t happen? The whole century is utterly different…

The Election That Ruined Everything (And If It Never Happened)

409
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:45:31pm

re: #405 MsJ

Maybe. Someone will.

It’s a pretty empty gesture, since the probability of tRump winning Washington is approximately the same as me winning the Miss Universe pageant. If it actually played out that way, though, I’m sure the Repugs would claim Washington’s Electoral Votes invalid, and this Supreme Court would agree.

410
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:46:44pm

re: #405 MsJ

Maybe. Someone will.

Certainly seems to violate the Constitution since it adds a requirement that is not present in the document. A political party can probably place that limitation on their candidates.

411
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:51:24pm

re: #408 William Lewis

Ok, this is just the most thought provoking bit of althistory I’ve seen in a very long time.

What is Wilson’s election didn’t happen? The whole century is utterly different…

[Embedded content]

Video

They didn’t think it though if Teddy Roosevelt had beaten Wilson and gotten back in the Presidency. We would have basically followed the same policies EXCEPT for purging African Americans from the Civil Service.

We would have been in World War 1 a lot sooner.

412
freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:51:52pm

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

413
bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 7:59:29pm

re: #412 freetoken

Don’t feel too bad, your odds at winning the Powerball Jackpot increase only slightly buy actually buying a ticket.

If I WHEN I win I have no idea what I’ll do for LGF folks but it will be good!

414
freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:02:41pm

re: #413 bd (Emergency!)

Well, the difference between not buying a ticket and buying one ticket is actually infinite (because you’re dividing by zero.)

If no one wins tonight the jackpot will really start to climb to news headline level.

415
freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:04:30pm

I think I would have won $4 or $5.

416
Patricia Kayden  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:09:15pm

I know Trump was pissed off by her answer. Love her.

417
bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:10:17pm

re: #415 freetoken

[Embedded content]

I think I would have won $4 or $5.

Not even going to look until tomorrow morning.

Might as well have one more night’s dreams as a potential multi-millionaire,

418
freetoken  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:13:20pm

re: #417 bd (Emergency!)

The expected coverage was 15.2% . About a one in six chance that someone won the jackpot.

419
teleskiguy  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:15:28pm

re: #416 Patricia Kayden

420
bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:15:29pm

re: #418 freetoken

The expected coverage was 15.2% . About a one in six chance that someone won the jackpot.

It’s almost like you are predicting my win!!!!

//

421
Dave In Austin  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:15:48pm

re: #413 bd (Emergency!)

Don’t feel too bad, your odds at winning the Powerball Jackpot increase only slightly buy actually buying a ticket.

If I WHEN I win I have no idea what I’ll do for LGF folks but it will be good!

Will you take us all to Hawaii??

422
Patricia Kayden  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:17:54pm

re: #393 Dave In Austin

There’s no such thing as “preborn children”. Is she worried about children separated and jailed in cages at the Southern border? Or those who risk their lives at schools due to the possibility of being gunned down? Or those whose parents can’t afford healthcare? She can shut the hell up with her forced birther nonsense.

423
Patricia Kayden  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:20:06pm

re: #419 teleskiguy

I could tell that she was really shaken up when she spoke from her heart during her first press conference after the tragedy. I love that she has already committed to tightening gun control laws.

424
bd (Emergency!)  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:21:46pm

re: #421 Dave In Austin

Will you take us all to Hawaii??

yeah, sure.

(disclaimer: must be registered users of LGF that had logged onto LGF within the last 96 hours before or hour after of the obnoxious huge jackpot drawing)

425
sagehen  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:29:03pm

re: #410 Hecuba’s daughter

Certainly seems to violate the Constitution since it adds a requirement that is not present in the document. A political party can probably place that limitation on their candidates.

Pretty sure the Constitution says each State runs their elections however they like, picks their electors however they like. As long as all the candidates are subject to the same rules, the State can impose these conditions.

426
William Lewis  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:37:43pm

re: #411 Joe Bacon 🌹

They didn’t think it though if Teddy Roosevelt had beaten Wilson and gotten back in the Presidency. We would have basically followed the same policies EXCEPT for purging African Americans from the Civil Service.

We would have been in World War 1 a lot sooner.

Yes. Exactly the point.

By getting in sooner, the war ends sooner. The war ends sooner, we have a different set of outcomes, especially in Russia. Combine that with not having Wilson’s racist asininity at the peace conference and you have a much better 20th century even though we lose more people in 1915 and 16.

427
plansbandc  Mar 16, 2019 • 8:38:45pm

re: #424 bd (Emergency!)

Now THAT would be a good time.

428
Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:08:29pm

re: #424 bd (Emergency!)

yeah, sure.

(disclaimer: must be registered users of LGF that had logged onto LGF within the last 96 hours before or hour after of the obnoxious huge jackpot drawing)

Oooh! Oooh! I was! I was!

429
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 16, 2019 • 9:12:11pm

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