Eric Gales Burns Down the Blues Cruise: Somebody/Smokestack Lightning

Music • Views: 33,947

YouTube

(Filmed by Natasha in 1080 HD)
Any distortions in the video image was due to excessive bass emitting from speakers directly in front of me.
Eric Gales - Guitar & Vocals, Nick Hayes - Drums, LeDonna Gales - Background Vocals & Percussion, Byron Carter - Bass
Filmed & Recorded on the Keeping The Blues Alive Cruise 2019
ericgalesband.com

Jump to bottom

221 comments
1
De Kolta Chair  Mar 17, 2019 • 9:09:58pm

White Westerosi Problems

2
goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2019 • 9:22:40pm
3
goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2019 • 9:31:41pm

I’m so incredibly disappointed is this random weirdo I just now became aware of.

4
teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2019 • 9:49:27pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

You’re so weird. In a good way.

5
Targetpractice  Mar 17, 2019 • 9:51:32pm

You ever watch an old movie and realize it would make so much more sense today than it did when it was made? I had that moment the other day watching V for Vendetta, because while a lot of people gave the Wachowskis shit back in the day for how “over the top” it was as an allegory of the Bush years, today it would probably be seen as biting commentary about Trump.

6
teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2019 • 9:51:41pm

I just ate a gas station foot long spicy burrito. I already regret it.

7
Dr Lizardo  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:08:24pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

You ever watch an old movie and realize it would make so much more sense today than it did when it was made? I had that moment the other day watching V for Vendetta, because while a lot of people gave the Wachowskis shit back in the day for how “over the top” it was as an allegory of the Bush years, today it would probably be seen as biting commentary about Trump.

V for Vendetta isn’t a bad film. But there’s one part I loathe and it’s the ending.

Specifically, the voiceover by Natalie Portman.

I would’ve ended it with a very brief rooftop exchange after the Parliament building is blown up:

[Finch]: Who was he? Did he ever tell you?

[Evey]: No. I have no idea who he was or what his life was like before. But I’d like to think that he was all of us.

Close out with the same scenes, to the “1812 Overture”, fade to black, roll end credits.

8
Dave In Austin  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:09:04pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

I just ate a gas station foot long spicy burrito. I already regret it.

[[[[[Rumble]]]]]

9
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:17:17pm

re: #8 Dave In Austin

[[[[[Rumble]]]]]

When I lived in Casper, there was a place across the street from our office we called “Grief and Taco,” for just that reason.

10
William Lewis  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:23:46pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

I just ate a gas station foot long spicy burrito. I already regret it.

I had a can of peach slices in extra light syrup. Probably too much corn syrup (looks at can) Cool, just regular sugar. So, probably a somewhat better midnight snack.

11
Dr Lizardo  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:32:07pm

Back later. Off to work.

12
goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:41:49pm
13
goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:43:14pm
14
Targetpractice  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:51:02pm

Like all Republicans, Meghan only feels a spike of anger towards Donny when it’s her own ox being gored.

15
teleskiguy  Mar 17, 2019 • 10:53:28pm

Hypocrisy in the Republican party never ends these days. It’s unreal.

16
Decatur Deb  Mar 17, 2019 • 11:28:02pm

0125 in Lower Alabama. Just made the coffee/wine/cocoa decision. A new day has begun.

17
Amory Blaine  Mar 17, 2019 • 11:43:57pm

Damn, Dick Dale died.

18
Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Mar 17, 2019 • 11:45:07pm

That’s gotta piss off the House of Saud, and Trump.

19
plansbandc  Mar 17, 2019 • 11:47:52pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

Dude and I are experiencing something quite similar. The gut changes over time. Alas.

20
Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2019 • 1:38:41am

Picked up on ibob’s comments on Alabama midwife laws and maternal/child mortality. That sent me down another rabbit hole. It’s yet another way we are SNAFU, but with a lot of sociological twists. Bottom line seems to be: “You can’t get to sanity from here.”

21
boredtechindenver  Mar 18, 2019 • 1:39:11am

re: #6 teleskiguy

I just ate a gas station foot long spicy burrito. I already regret it.

College years in Las Vegas NM (the non-gambling LV), I loved the Allsups Steak and Salsa burritos after closing time. I miss the days when I could eat gluten filled food and drink.

22
Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2019 • 1:42:14am

re: #21 boredtechindenver

Daughter2 and our grandson moved to Denver about 6 weeks ago. So far they are loving it, even with the midwinter timing. The trick now is not to go broke.

23
Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:17:00am

Random Sephardic track via an Istanbul street group that has broken through:

Light in Babylon - Baderech El Hayam

24
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:22:04am

Seeing chatter on social media on NZ companies blocking domains used to upload the shooters video, and major NZ advertisers pulling ads from Google and Facebook.
Investigating.

25
freetoken  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:24:14am

re: #20 Decatur Deb

Picked up on ibob’s comments on Alabama midwife laws and maternal/child mortality. That sent me down another rabbit hole. It’s yet another way we are SNAFU, but with a lot of sociological twists. Bottom line seems to be: “You can’t get to sanity from here.”

Your on the other side of the insane-event-horizon, is what you’re saying.

26
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:25:44am

re: #24 Teukka

Seeing chatter on social media on NZ companies blocking domains used to upload the shooters video, and major NZ advertisers pulling ads from Google and Facebook.
Investigating.

@discordapp pulling accounts sharing the video.

27
freetoken  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:27:31am

I see from news blurbs from the UK that May seems intent on going down in flames for a third time with a disastrous vote.

From where I sit (or lay as it may be this time in the morn), the UK’s politics seem as messed up as ours. We have more of a malicious idiot at the top than does the UK, but while May is not a sniveling nitwit she is just as incompetent at doing what is right for the long run.

28
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:34:54am

re: #24 Teukka

Seeing chatter on social media on NZ companies blocking domains used to upload the shooters video, and major NZ advertisers pulling ads from Google and Facebook.
Investigating.

NZHerald Christchurch mosque shootings: Major Kiwi companies set to pull ads from Facebook and Google

29
Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:39:54am

re: #27 freetoken

I see from news blurbs from the UK that May seems intent on going down in flames for a third time with a disastrous vote.

From where I sit (or lay as it may be this time in the morn), the UK’s politics seem as messed up as ours. We have more of a malicious idiot at the top than does the UK, but while May is not a sniveling nitwit she is just as incompetent at doing what is right for the long run.

When does EU decide on any extension?

30
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:46:21am

re: #29 Decatur Deb

It is assumed that they will grant up to three months, but they have EU elections coming up, which Britain most explicitly does not want to take part in.

31
Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:49:09am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is assumed that they will grant up to three months, but they have EU elections coming up, which Britain most explicitly does not want to take part in.

Thought the EU vote was vulnerable to hardline ratfuckery.

32
Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:55:13am

re: #24 Teukka

re: #26 Teukka

re: #28 Teukka

Good. While I doubt it will have much effect in the long run, it MAY, just MAY, serve as a wake up call to these companies to clean their shit up.

33
LastYearsMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:55:37am

Yuya Uchida, one of the Japanese rock greats, has died. He did some really good stuff.
japantimes.co.jp

34
LastYearsMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 2:57:02am

Here’s one of his first albums.

Yuya Uchida & The Flowers - Greasy Heart (1969)

35
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 3:02:20am

Mornin’ Lizardim, your early morning education video:

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

36
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 3:07:51am

re: #31 Decatur Deb

Thought the EU vote was vulnerable to hardline ratfuckery.

The EU would like to see the deal they negotiated get approved, and will probably grant an extension if they think that might help, but they are not going to back down from it or modify it to any great extent..

37
Dave In Austin  Mar 18, 2019 • 3:09:14am
38
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 3:43:18am

Approaching 1 minute to midnight here in the UK on Brexit.

As much as May et al would like to do the sensible thing and just call it all off, unfortunately the majority of the country voted to leave.

I am reminded of a lawyer who has an idiot for a client.

39
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 3:44:34am

Well fuck :(

40
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 18, 2019 • 3:52:26am

Several injured in shooting on tram in Utrecht

Several people have been injured in a shooting on a tram in the central Dutch city of Utrecht, police have said.

An anti-terror unit and emergency services have been sent to the scene, and a square at a tram station outside the city centre has been cordoned off.

Three helicopters were despatched to the area after the shooting, which took place at about 10.45 local time (09:45 GMT).

41
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:12:03am

re: #38 Curious Lifeform

Approaching 1 minute to midnight here in the UK on Brexit.

As much as May et al would like to do the sensible thing and just call it all off, unfortunately the majority of the country voted to leave.

I am reminded of a lawyer who has an idiot for a client.

Again: they voted to request Parliament to enact Article 50

Which they did. But they did not follow up on approving an exit deal.

I see that as serious grounds to reconsider.

42
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:26:04am

@Wendell, please don’t think I disagree with you.

But putting the argument that way is not going to help anyone. The vote was “remain or stay” - straight choice.

CL

43
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:31:21am

I am thinking of doing a page for my US friends on Brexit, but it will necessarily be quite long. There are in fact some merits of leaving the EU - but there are also costs. My poor country is irrevocably divided on the issue. The idea of just cancelling the whole thing may seem simple and nice, but it is not as easy as that.

Here are arguments that will not help solve the problem:
LEAVE only won by a small amount so it doesn’t count.
LEAVE are all idiots so it doesn’t count.
LEAVE did not know what LEAVE meant so it doesn’t count.
The deal is not perfect so it doesn’t count.
The government cannot get the deal through Parliament so it doesn’t count.

CL

44
Barefoot Grin  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:33:25am
45
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:36:09am

re: #43 Curious Lifeform

It was a non-binding referendum.

But backing out of it would cause a lot of MPs to lose face, and they would rather wreck the economy than admit that it was all just grandstanding and political posturing and they really had no idea what they were getting into.

I would support a second BINDING referendum with the caveat that they have to come up with some sort of approved trade deal and not just leave the EU without any transitional agreement.

46
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:45:00am

Here’s another argument that won’t cut it:

“It was a non-binding referendum so it doesn’t count.”

The deal was ask the people and the Government was elected on both a) giving that referendum and b) abiding by its result.

Most MPs thought it would never pass.

You are correct, legally, they could ignore it. But democracy is a not a one-step Game Theory scenario; ignoring it will end this Government forever. Consider again the lawyer with the idiot for a client. She can give the best advice possible, but if the client insists they will try to sue a baseless complaint, the lawyer has to follow their instruction.

How about if Trump said after the next US election, “Yeah you voted me out overwhelmingly, but I actually know better than you so we’ll ignore that.”?

We cannot get any sort of trade deal until the withdrawal deal is passed.
I believe the government is trying its hardest to deliver on its instruction, but yes they know it will damage the economy. Half the voters are just not listening.

Hope this helps you understand their impossible dilemma.

CL

47
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:50:47am

re: #46 Curious Lifeform

How about if Trump said after the next US election, “Yeah you voted me out overwhelmingly, but I actually know better than you so we’ll ignore that.”?

US elections are legally binding.

Slight difference there.

And up to now, the results have been respected, except forthat slight flap over 1860…

And game theory says that enough MPs will act on their own personal short-term interests and wreck the economy before admitting that it was a bad idea.

It would destroy a lot of trust in government (although that is already in the sewer already) and alienate a lot of voters, who, like the Trump Base, hate foreigners enough that they are willing to tank the economy over keeping them out.

48
Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:52:46am

re: #46 Curious Lifeform

You are correct, legally, they could ignore it. But democracy is a not a one-step Game Theory scenario; ignoring it will end this Government forever.

Yes it would; but more importantly, if the Tories were to ignore the referendum, they’d be cast into the political wilderness for a generation while furious Tory voters shifted over to UKIP, or whatever party Farage dreams up next.

Former PM Cameron called the referendum because he thought that not only would “remain” win, but that such a win would blunt the rise of UKIP. In hindsight, this turned out to be one of the worst political miscalculations in quite some time.

49
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 4:58:52am

Right, 1860.

That’s why it cannot just be ignored.

You have to take Game Theory as a repeated exercise. The prisoner’s dilemma only works on a one-shot.

I would actually say going through with Brexit and crashing the economy is far worse for MPs who want to maintain a long-term good record with voters. That’s why they cannot in good conscience let no-deal just happen.

It’s ironic, to me, that everyone (including the hardcore leavers) looks at the deal and says, “We’d just be better off in the EU.”

D’uh. But that’s what Brexit will mean.

CL

50
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:04:28am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

Correct, Doctor.

That’s how inclusive democracy works. It happened with the Green Party and Sinn Fein. Neither of these one-issue parties ever threatened to win a general election, but the basic maths of majority-rule leads to two main parties, each taking on a long list of issues and their position on each. When an issue is not addressed by a main party, they lose a seat or two to a one-issue small party and this affects the balance of the magic 50% (or 1/2) needed to win an election.

If one major party does not address the issue the other will, adding it to its own list, and thus gain power.

Like him or hate him, agree or disagree, Farage tapped into the genuine feelings of enough people in the country to cause the government to call a referendum.

I didn’t see that result coming. But it did.

CL

51
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:07:37am

The EU was adamant that the free movement of goods and capital remains contingent on the free movement of people

Cake is an eat-or-have peoposition.

They also wanted to make an example of the UK for anyone else who might get a nationalist bug up their butts and vote to leave.

The Brits were a bit too full of themselves to believe that they would be made an example of and really were looking forward to having the cake they had just eaten.

52
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:10:05am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The EU was adamant that the free movement of goods and capital remains contingent on the free movement of people

Cake is an eat-or-have peoposition.

They also wanted to make an example of the UK for anyone else who might get a nationalist bug up their butts and vote to leave.

The Brits were a bit too full of themselves to believe that they would be made an example of and really were looking forward to having the cake they had just eaten.

In the words of Eddie Izzard, the UK voters were given the choice of cake or death. They chose death.

53
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:12:44am

@Wendell

Emotional reaction aside, I can fully understand the EU not offering full Free Trade, with or without free movement of labour, to a non-member. Otherwise what’s the point in being a member?

We haven’t got to the terms of future trade yet.

I believe the pro-Brexit voters will be sorely disappointed in whatever we can get.

Interesting that the UK declared 0% tariff on the NI border? That’s what we’ll be aiming for, or as close as.

Part of me feels like we need to go through a decade of decline due to non-free trade with the EU. Only then will we be ready to rejoin.

54
Shropshire Slasher  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:13:09am

Coming to dog and cat treats near you:

On the heels of a massive cocaine bust at a New Jersey port, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection announced another big seizure on Friday of roughly 1 million pounds of pork smuggled from China, where there’s an ongoing outbreak of deadly African swine fever.

Officials announced the seizure of more than 50 shipping containers during a press conference Friday morning at a warehouse in Elizabeth. Three rooms were filled wall-to-wall with packages of the illegally smuggled pork products.

“Agriculture specialists made a critical interception of these prohibited animal products, and stopped them from entering the U.S. before they could potentially cause grave damage,” said Troy Miller, director of Customs and Border Protection Field Operations in New York/Newark.

The seizure was in an effort to battle the spread of African swine fever, a contagious, deadly virus which has killed more than a million pigs in China. The disease has never been reported in the United States, and does not affect humans, but spreads rapidly to domestic pigs and wild boars. If African swine fever infected American livestock, it could cause $10 billion in damage to the pork industry in just one year, Miller said.

The million-pounds of pork is the largest agricultural seizure in the U.S., he said. More than 100 Custom and Border Protection agricultural specialists and canines from the Department of Agriculture worked to uncover the prohibited food.

The pork was smuggled in various different ways including in ramen noodle bowls to Tide detergent, deputy chief agricultural specialist Basil Liakakos said.

55
Shropshire Slasher  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:14:08am

re: #53 Curious Lifeform

Try clicking on that reply button, it ‘s magic.

56
jeffreyw  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:14:29am

Good morning!

57
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:15:16am

It is a difficult bind. The results showed whether people actually thought out the consequences of leaving the EU or not that enough people thought it was a good idea. Now I don’t know enough about internal British politics to know if it will leave the same scar I feel Trump has here in the US. I agree with CL that Farange definitely tapped into something just like unfortunately Trumpism has. The problem with both is I don’t think either Trump supporters or Brexit proponents thought about what having Donald Trump or leaving the EU would actually mean. There are going to be long term consequences to both long after Trump and Farrage are gone.

58
steve_davis  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:16:44am

re: #16 Decatur Deb

0125 in Lower Alabama. Just made the coffee/wine/cocoa decision. A new day has begun.

0125? That’s cocoa time.

59
Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:20:00am

re: #58 steve_davis

0125? That’s cocoa time.

Went with coffee. Regretting it.

60
steve_davis  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:20:28am

re: #29 Decatur Deb

When does EU decide on any extension?

they have to agree to an article 50 extension. after all, they have to have time to plan for chaos as well. and by the way, word on the street is that they aren’t planning on agreeing to any extension that doesn’t involve a coherent explanation for how it would help. “We can’t get our shit together” is not, I gather, useful.

61
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:27:14am

I can’t even say that the arbiters of what counts as news are failing us, because that makes the assumption that they’re even trying to serve us to begin with.

62
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:28:56am

Local media report one person dead in the Untrecht incident. The shooter is still on the run. Police have not ruled out terrorism. Of course, freepers and other usual suspects have already pegged him as a Muslim Democrat who sneaked in from Mexico with the help of Soros.
One person believed to have been killed in shooting on a tram in Utrecht

63
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:29:31am

re: #61 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

I can’t even say that the arbiters of what counts as news are failing us, because that makes the assumption that they’re even trying to serve us to begin with.

Their big mistake and many other people do this is to treat Trump as normal. He is unique. That his predecessors in the GOP were bad doesn’t change it.

64
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:33:35am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Their big mistake and many other people do this is to treat Trump as normal. He is unique. That his predecessors in the GOP were bad doesn’t change it.

We saw him get away with utterances that would have wrecked the campaign or even the career of any other politician. That was a sign in itself. I believe a lot of his supporters know that he is a criminal, but that did not bother them, since they were convinced that Hillary was an even bigger criminal.

65
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:33:47am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Their big mistake and many other people do this is to treat Trump as normal. He is unique. That his predecessors in the GOP were bad doesn’t change it.

The problem isn’t that Trump is unique. He’s not. He’s the logical outgrowth of GOP cravenness and malefaction. The problem is that the fact that he’s the logical outgrowth of GOP evil means he must necessarily be normal and OK. It was never OK, it should never have been treated as OK, but now it is treated as the height of normal because everything the GOP does top to bottom must apparently be OK by definition because the GOP is the crowned default for governance. They can’t be crazy, because if they were it’d mean the entire system is flawed! Therefore everyone else is to blame and things are just peachy keen!!!

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We saw him get away with utterances that would have wrecked the campaign or even the career of any other politician. That was a sign in itself. I believe a lot of his supporters know that he is a criminal, but that did not bother them, since they were convinced that Hillary was an even bigger criminal.

I don’t think there’s even anything unique about Trump that allowed him to get away with this outside of his brazenness. The more things go, the more it feels like he simply took advantage of the field seeded by years of normalized GOP behavior, and showing that they didn’t even need to bother with the fig leaf of civility anymore. That the electorate was super thirsty for just out and out open hate and nationalism with no excuses.

66
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:38:29am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

The first ref happened while I was out of the country. From afar I never would have believed the result.

Now I am back here it is not just the result - which seems crazy enough - but the damage it has done to both the major parties and the society here itself. I have never seen an issue so passionately backed (by either side) and so little compromise offered. I do fear for the long-term consequences.

HOWEVER, I have this little trick I do sometimes, a thought-exercise called the magic wand scenario.

Imagine you have a magic wand and can fix the situation any way you like. What would you change? What would the long-term ideal situation look like to you?

To me personally, the EU is undemocratic and a very socialist model (and that is much further left than you generally consider in the US). It’s like that old Steve McQueen movie The Blob - it keeps growing and growing and has become this massive bureaucratic monolith that just keeps growing and consuming all it touches. An article posted recently right here on LGF (I forget who) was a news article proposing that May was an idiot for talking to the heads of state of the EU members - that only the faceless unelected bureaucrats in Brussels will decide what happens. “Way to go,” I thought, “that just strengthens the pro-brexit argument.”

If I could fix it, it would involve a near-free trade deal - necessitating a little political cooperation to standardise weights/measures/standards etc. Perhaps even a good forum for EU leaders to meet and discuss joint foreign policy - communication is always good. And that would be it. A smaller, more agile, trade-facilitating EU. Maybe add in visa-free travel.

I suspect pro-brexit voters envisage something not so different.

I have no problem with free movement of labour - to me it is just a matter of economics - but some people seem to. If there were some check/regulation on numbers actually moving, that would not actually be so terrible, if sub-optimal, economically.

I feel like whatever happens - in or out - in ten years it is possible for this idea to become a reality. Just like you guys will eventually get a normal person back as a President.

The question is really how much damage is done on the way…

67
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:41:14am

re: #60 steve_davis

I have to agree - as terrible as a no-deal crash out would be - even I cannot see any point to an extension as it just moves the UK parliament away from a final crunch-time vote on deal-or-no-deal (or, *whisper* cancel the whole thing?).

68
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:42:43am

re: #39 Teukka

Well fuck :(

[Embedded content]

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Several injured in shooting on tram in Utrecht

re: #62 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Local media report one person in the Untrecht incident. The shooter is still on the run. Police have not ruled out terrorism. Of course, freepers and other usual suspects have already pegged him as a Muslim Democrat who sneaked in from Mexico with the help of Soros.
One person believed to have been killed in shooting on a tram in Utrecht

Update on ongoing active shooter incident in Utrecht, NL:
o Police do not rule out terror motives.
o Gunman/Gunmen still at large.
o More than one site where shootings have occured according to chatter in news media.
o Police are urging people in Utrecht to stay indoors, “this is not over yet”.

69
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:44:18am

If you want goods to move freely, then you need to open your (internal) borders and let people move freely. Just that simple.

EU will have it no other way.

There are EU parliamentary elections, but they are generally ignored by the EU electorate, which is why the bloated bureaucrats can get away with pretty much whatever they want to

but there is a way to fix that, too, namely by starting and supporting EU-wide parties and VOTING in the elections.

70
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:46:06am

re: #65 Citizen K

The problem isn’t that Trump is unique. He’s not. He’s the logical outgrowth of GOP cravenness and malefaction. The problem is that the fact that he’s the logical outgrowth of GOP evil means he must necessarily be normal and OK. It was never OK, it should never have been treated as OK, but now it is treated as the height of normal because everything the GOP does top to bottom must apparently be OK by definition because the GOP is the crowned default for governance. They can’t be crazy, because if they were it’d mean the entire system is flawed! Therefore everyone else is to blame and things are just peachy keen!!!

I don’t think there’s even anything unique about Trump that allowed him to get away with this outside of his brazenness. The more things go, the more it feels like he simply took advantage of the field seeded by years of normalized GOP behavior, and showing that they didn’t even need to bother with the fig leaf of civility anymore. That the electorate was super thirsty for just out and out open hate and nationalism with no excuses.

I think he is unique in that he seems to have contempt for the very idea of representative government. I didn’t get that vibe with Bush, McCain, or even Romney. You are right though that the media ignored a lot about him that should have been called out. Cory Booker being a vegan got more negative feedback than Trump belittling a disabled reporter.

71
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:51:04am

re: #68 Teukka

o Dutch Counter-Terrorism Co-ordinator quoted by Sky News Europe as saying that there are shooting at multiple locations, gunman/gunmen on the run.
o Correction: Netherlands in its entirety, not just City of Utrecht has raised terror threat level to 5 of 5.

FUUUU…

72
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:56:39am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

I think he is unique in that he seems to have contempt for the very idea of representative government. I didn’t get that vibe with Bush, McCain, or even Romney. You are right though that the media ignored a lot about him that should have been called out. Cory Booker being a vegan got more negative feedback than Trump belittling a disabled reporter.

Trump is a media star and got the Media Star treatment. Few other politicians ever got that.

I recall all the outlets spent the best part of an hour showing an empty podium waiting for Trump to come out and give lame excuses about how his charity spent its money while Hillary was giving a speech about better employment opportunities for the handicapped.

73
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:57:36am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

I think he is unique in that he seems to have contempt for the very idea of representative government. I didn’t get that vibe with Bush, McCain, or even Romney. You are right though that the media ignored a lot about him that should have been called out. Cory Booker being a vegan got more negative feedback than Trump belittling a disabled reporter.

Except you definitely see that open contempt in Congress even now with folks like McConnell. It’s not a new thing, it’s just that the GOP just stumbled on someone brazen enough to find out that their presidential candidates didn’t even need to make those kind of paeans anymore.

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is a media star and got the Media Star treatment. Few other politicians ever got that.

I recall all the outlets spent the best part of an hour showing an empty podium waiting for Trump to come out and give lame excuses about how his charity spent its money while Hillary was giving a speech about better employment opportunities for the handicapped.

McCain wasn’t the multimedia non-political star in the same way, but he got the same sort of fawning in a lot of ways after the fact. The fact that his brand was built on a different ‘virtue’ didn’t change that he got the same kind of preferential, deferential treatment, if not on the same scale.

74
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 5:59:40am

Bleh, ignore, messed up and tried to edit, and replied instead.

75
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:01:02am

re: #73 Citizen K

Except you definitely see that open contempt in Congress even now with folks like McConnell. It’s not a new thing, it’s just that the GOP just stumbled on someone brazen enough to find out that their presidential candidates didn’t even need to make those kind of paeans anymore.

True points.

76
451_Montag  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:05:45am

re: #25 freetoken

Your on the other side of the insane-event-horizon, is what you’re saying.

Wow.

I just turned the tv over to Event Horizon, just as I read yours. Probably in 1 second difference!!!!

77
Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:07:28am

re: #71 Teukka

Seems unusual for present-day terrorism, unless we’re talking old-school IRA or Euro-terrorists (the Baader-Meinhof Gang, the RZ, etc.); making a getaway like that is, shall we say, not in the typical style of the most recent terrorist attacks that have taken place in Europe (notwithstanding the NZ attack).

Is this a RW-type of terrorist attack? Then sure, the hit and run aspect would make sense as that seems to be more their style. But ISIS-inspired terrorists usually seek “martyrdom” (IOW, suicide by cop or blowing themselves up or something) as the finalé for their attacks.

In any event, hopefully, we’ll know more soon.

78
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:08:43am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Seems unusual for present-day terrorism, unless we’re talking old-school IRA or Euro-terrorists (the Baader-Meinhof Gang, the RZ, etc.); making a getaway like that is, shall we say, not in the typical style of the most recent terrorist attacks that have taken place in Europe (notwithstanding the NZ attack).

Is this a RW-type of terrorist attack? Then sure, the hit and run aspect would make sense as that seems to be more their style. But ISIS-inspired terrorists usually seek “martyrdom” (IOW, suicide by cop or blowing themselves up or something) as the finalé for their attacks.

In any event, hopefully, we’ll know more soon.

TCTC ideological motivation of perp(s). Invoking 24h rule.

79
Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:10:34am

re: #78 Teukka

TCTC ideological motivation of perp(s). Invoking 24h rule.

No one even knows (thus far at least) if it was actually a terrorist incident.

Could be just some street-gang bullshit that got out of hand.

80
Belafon  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:17:18am

re: #49 Curious Lifeform

Right, 1860.

That’s why it cannot just be ignored.

You have to take Game Theory as a repeated exercise. The prisoner’s dilemma only works on a one-shot.

I would actually say going through with Brexit and crashing the economy is far worse for MPs who want to maintain a long-term good record with voters. That’s why they cannot in good conscience let no-deal just happen.

It’s ironic, to me, that everyone (including the hardcore leavers) looks at the deal and says, “We’d just be better off in the EU.”

D’uh. But that’s what Brexit will mean.

CL

You’re assuming people will act rationally here. We see all the time here in the US where people will choose their racism over having an economy that responds to them because it would also respond to those “others.” The Brexit vote was the same thing.

81
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:21:16am

re: #43 Curious Lifeform

I am thinking of doing a page for my US friends on Brexit, but it will necessarily be quite long. There are in fact some merits of leaving the EU - but there are also costs. My poor country is irrevocably divided on the issue. The idea of just cancelling the whole thing may seem simple and nice, but it is not as easy as that.

Here are arguments that will not help solve the problem:
LEAVE only won by a small amount so it doesn’t count.
LEAVE are all idiots so it doesn’t count.
LEAVE did not know what LEAVE meant so it doesn’t count.
The deal is not perfect so it doesn’t count.
The government cannot get the deal through Parliament so it doesn’t count.

CL

The entire vote and outcome was suspect considering that the proponents top claim and benefit - that it would generate hundreds of millions of pounds for the NHS turned out to be vaporware. There was no money that was coming for the NHS. The bus going around with that lie on its side was part of the sham.

It’s arguable that the entire leave messaging was a punk on the British people, and just enough fell for it to get the country into a mess.

There’s a way out.

Hold another vote and reiterate what happened and who got the country into the mess of Brexit - that the leave proponents didn’t have a clue what to do or how to do it once they got their precious Ayes.

There’s no plan to leave. Everyone agrees a no deal brexit would be horrible, but every deal to leave is horrible. It would constrict the British economy, cause job losses, and there’s no actual benefit to anyone’s sovereignty.

Oh, and the Brits working on the Continent would suddenly find themselves fooked (legal term), while the proponents were claiming that immigration would suddenly be checked (it wouldn’t be). There’s a certain amount of xenophobia and racism involved in the Aye brexit position too that doesn’t get nearly enough attention.

Most of all, who benefits from the splitup? It isn’t the EU and it isn’t the UK.

It’s Russia. They watch their European rivals squabble, break up, and create economic turmoil, which allows Russia to continue their agenda while Trump continues attacking our European allies too (hail Hydra). Russia has gotten into a sweet spot of capitalizing on white nationalism, xenophobia, and far right politics to further its own agenda worldwide - and Trump and Brexit are just the most prominent examples of this.

82
Belafon  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:21:40am

Remember when Bernie’s $3M, which turned into $5.9M was big:

Beto O’Rourke raised $6.1 million in the first 24 hours of his presidential campaign, his campaign said Monday, in what amounts to the largest announced first-day haul of any 2020 Democratic contender to date.”

“The former Texas congressman raised $6,136,763 in online donations from all 50 states in the first day, his campaign said. That tops the $5.9 million one-day total Sen. Bernie Sanders announced after he launched his campaign. The closest other 2020 Democratic candidate to publicize their first-day fundraising total was California Sen. Kamala Harris at $1.5 million.”

For those of you wondering if a Congressman could be well known, there you go.

Every kind of exaggeration and misquote will be thrown at him, from people on the right and on the far left.

83
Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:22:57am

Dutch police have issued a BOLO for a suspect in the shooting in Utrecht.

84
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:29:58am

re: #26 Teukka

@discordapp pulling accounts sharing the video.

Discord needs to deal with its white supremacy problem.

85
Belafon  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:34:35am

re: #82 Belafon

Reload, I really messed up the formatting of that one.

86
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:38:00am

re: #84 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Discord needs to deal with its white supremacy problem.

Discord has a lot of computer and gaming freaks on it, who are not especially known for progressive attitudes about anything besides computers and games, and even then rarely.

87
Man, DangerMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:41:34am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We saw him get away with utterances that would have wrecked the campaign or even the career of any other politician. That was a sign in itself. I believe a lot of his supporters know that he is a criminal, but that did not bother them, since they were convinced that Hillary was an even bigger criminal.

they voted for him anyway.

- a self described, admitted molester, cheat and liar.
- that everyone knew was married three times and an adulterer all three times.
- many knew he used bankruptcy laws and debt to con tenants and contractors out of their money
- who paid other people off to keep silent about immoral and possibly illegal things he did.

knowing full well he did not attend church, constantly bears false witness, and abused probably the rest of the commandments as well, evangelicals, and everyone else voted for him anyway

88
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:41:58am

Greets and saluts… bad news coming out of Utrecht, and law enforcement is treating it as a terror incident.

Meanwhile, New Zealand is wasting no time tackling the mass shooting and the easy availability of guns there. They’re likely to vote on a package to strengthen gun control laws within the next two weeks. It makes for a great compare/contrast with the US, where we have mass shootings every 10-14 days like clockwork and they just blend into the bloody fooking background.

CNN frames it as no easy solution, except there are ways to improve public safety that will ultimately make the country safer for everyone - you can’t reduce risk to zero, but you can strive to make that a goal. Make it harder for people to get guns, show necessity, and limit the kinds of guns that are available to the public. Make licensing and periodic testing a part of the regulatory scheme. Make confiscation for domestic violence a part of the scheme.

89
Man, DangerMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:43:46am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

No one even knows (thus far at least) if it was actually a terrorist incident.

Could be just some street-gang bullshit that got out of hand.

Look how wrong everyone got Frank Cali’s killing

90
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:44:12am
91
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:45:37am

re: #88 lawhawk

Greets and saluts… bad news coming out of Utrecht, and law enforcement is treating it as a terror incident.

Meanwhile, New Zealand is wasting no time tackling the mass shooting and the easy availability of guns there. They’re likely to vote on a package to strengthen gun control laws within the next two weeks. It makes for a great compare/contrast with the US, where we have mass shootings every 10-14 days like clockwork and they just blend into the bloody fooking background.

CNN frames it as no easy solution, except there are ways to improve public safety that will ultimately make the country safer for everyone - you can’t reduce risk to zero, but you can strive to make that a goal. Make it harder for people to get guns, show necessity, and limit the kinds of guns that are available to the public. Make licensing and periodic testing a part of the regulatory scheme. Make confiscation for domestic violence a part of the scheme.

What frustrates me about the argument is we have done things like this. Airplane crashes and car crashes used to be a lot higher. Enough people saw that as a problem and made the necessary fixes. Now do we still have car crashes and plane crashes? Yes but reduction has happened. The same can and should happen with guns.

92
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:46:11am
93
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:46:30am

re: #90 lawhawk

94
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:47:15am

re: #90 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

If he actually was bothered by it, he’d lead like he was supposed to be elected to instead of being a brat whining on Twitter. He doesn’t care. He just cares about his image and protecting his ass and brand.

95
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:49:13am

re: #90 lawhawk

What bothers Trump is that he is not being worshipped like a god.

96
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:49:24am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Proof on what I’m talking about. He could use Twitter to call out hatred but he would rather whine about how unfair the media is to him. Never tell me women are too emotional to lead after we had this asshole. PM Ardern is leading in Wellington, Trump is just whining in Washington.

97
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:49:48am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

98
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:50:20am

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

What bothers Trump is that he is not being worshipped like a god.

Exactly this. If he’s not being praised 24/7, he’s not happy.

99
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:52:03am

We have a President who is only content with praise. I can’t express how awful a trait that is in a President or any leader.

100
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:53:35am
101
Belafon  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:55:05am

re: #92 lawhawk

Beto’s still my number two, but this should calm anyone who thinks that he’s not known outside of Texas.

102
William Lewis  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:56:49am

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

What bothers Trump is that he is not being worshipped like a god.

Yep. I’d love to be a journalist for a day just to ask him “How does it feel to know you’ll be remembered as the worst president in American history, if you’re remembered at all?”

103
Man, DangerMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:57:02am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

What frustrates me about the argument is we have done things like this. Airplane crashes and car crashes used to be a lot higher. Enough people saw that as a problem and made the necessary fixes. Now do we still have car crashes and plane crashes? Yes but reduction has happened. The same can and should happen with guns.

…and can be done without infringing on the 2A rights of any responsible person

104
Man, DangerMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 6:57:44am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

The Fake News Media is working overtime to blame me for the horrible attack in New Zealand. They will have to work very hard to prove that one. So Ridiculous!

dude, the guy who did it referred to you

105
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:00:54am

re: #104 Man, DangerMan

dude, the guy who did it referred to you

They are not “blaming” Trump, they are reporting on the fact that he was mentioned by name by the perpetrator as an inspiration

106
William Lewis  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:00:56am

re: #103 Man, DangerMan

…and can be done without infringing on the 2A rights of any responsible person

This, while true, has been made irrelevant by the extreme right wingers packing into the Federal Courts by the traitor McConnell. There will not be any real change made for a generation as a result.

107
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:01:25am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

108
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:07:23am

re: #103 Man, DangerMan

…and can be done without infringing on the 2A rights of any responsible person

Absolutely

109
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:08:25am

re: #102 William Lewis

Yep. I’d love to be a journalist for a day just to ask him “How does it feel to know you’ll be remembered as the worst president in American history, if you’re remembered at all?”

You’d get threats from his cults but I’d love to see it asked.

110
Mike Lamb  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:08:40am

re: #90 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

That’s one of the most stupid spins I’ve ever heard.

111
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:09:20am

re: #110 Mike Lamb

That’s one of the most stupid spins I’ve ever heard.

I get really tired of the spin for this toddler.

112
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:12:02am

I’d pay good money to see the New Zealand PM kick Trump in the nuts.

113
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:15:46am

re: #110 Mike Lamb

That’s one of the most stupid spins I’ve ever heard.

re: #111 HappyWarrior

I get really tired of the spin for this toddler.

And yet countless ‘serious’ journalists continue to do their best to try and gild the turd for him. THey’re beholden to the idea that he must be a serious, well-heeled human being because if he isn’t, then they’re partially to blame for enabling the shitshow.

114
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:20:17am

re: #35 Teukka

She’s great. Thanks for that video.

115
makeitstop  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:20:27am
116
Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:23:23am

re: #114 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Natalie’s stuff is a bit of an acquired taste (I’m a fan). But her staging, lighting, her costumes…that is some AMAZING work

117
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:24:34am

OT, but Captain Marvel has the Wheat-dogg-daughter seal of approval. She went to see it for her birfday on Saturday with her bestie.

118
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:27:12am

AOC is living rent free in the right wing nutosphere. And of course Dinesh de Felon continues to show why no one should take him seriously (with the bonus of a SMOTI retweet).

119
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:28:19am
120
nowherenorth2  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:29:00am

re: #118 lawhawk

My God. The stupid burns my brain. 3 strokes and Dinesh has done more damage to my brain with one tweet

121
Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:34:47am

re: #117 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

OT, but Captain Marvel has the Wheat-dogg-daughter seal of approval. She went to see it for her birfday on Saturday with her bestie.

There is only ONE scene I would change in that…and its not even a scene in this movie, but in Endgame…

OK, we know Fury is a badass, and we know Captain Marvel is a badass, but the Avengers have never heard of her, Kree, or Skrulls. In the movie, Danvers and Fury are taking a road trip and she finds out his full name. She asks what other people call him, he says everyone calls him Fury. She keeps going “Your brother?” “Fury” “Your mom?” “Fury” etc.

When she arrives, she asks “Where’s Fury?”, I would have had her ask “Where’s Nick”, and then they react with a slightly humorous beat. I’d have reactions be like “I’m Captain AMERICA, and I won’t even call him that?!”

122
Man, DangerMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:35:33am

re: #106 William Lewis

This, while true, has been made irrelevant by the extreme right wingers packing into the Federal Courts by the traitor McConnell. There will not be any real change made for a generation as a result.

agreed

and in my likely biased opinion those most opposed are afraid they will be (correctly) identified as part of the reckless, dangerous and irresponsible who want to do what they want ‘uninfringed” while accepting absolutely no personal responsibility for the results

123
Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:37:21am

Why didn’t spoilers format?

124
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:38:12am

re: #121 Sufficient unto the day…

Ya messed up the spoiler tags. No “s” there.

125
Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:38:35am

re: #124 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

DERP, fixed

126
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:39:28am

moron still ranting about Lordstown

127
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:41:35am

re: #125 Sufficient unto the day…

DERP, fixed

I can cope. No worries.

I am really psyched for this movie. The comic book character debuted after my interest in comics waned, so I have no attachments to canon or whatever to carry as baggage into the theatre. Just the trailers have me ready for a great show, and my daughter’s review confirms I will probably like it a lot.

Too bad it will bomb because of all the MRAs and incels boycotting it, eh?
/////////////

128
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:42:39am

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron still ranting about Lordstown

Just nationalize the auto industry and slap a 150% tariff on all imports.

And design them to run on Clean Coal

129
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:43:29am
130
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:43:57am

re: #121 Sufficient unto the day…

There is only ONE scene I would change in that…and its not even a scene in this movie, but in Endgame…

[Embedded content]

I can understand why they might not have done that, with 1) Carol showing Fury respect by using the name he’d rather be called by, and 2) Very much serious business going on. The pager wouldn’t have been used if shit wasn’t bad, and considering where she was on the frontier, she probably would have seen the effects of the snappening herself. No time for pushing boundaries.

…besides, we got the humorous end beat with the second stinger.

132
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:46:18am

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

He knows nothing about the economics of manufacturing. You can’t just close a plant in China (where they build cars for the Asian market) and open one in the States on a few days’ notice. For one thing, where will the Asian cars be built? Funny thing, but other countries have tariffs, too. That’s why Ford builds their cars in China for Chinese people to buy. Building the Focus in the States won’t work, because Americans are buying SUVs and pickups, not economical sedans, and the Chinese tariffs will price the Focus above Chinese domestic makes.

Gah! He is such a fucking idiot.

133
Belafon  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:46:20am

re: #127 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I can cope. No worries.

I am really psyched for this movie. The comic book character debuted after my interest in comics waned, so I have no attachments to canon or whatever to carry as baggage into the theatre. Just the trailers have me ready for a great show, and my daughter’s review confirms I will probably like it a lot.

Too bad it will bomb because of all the MRAs and incels boycotting it, eh?
/////////////

I read a book, and go to the movie not caring if it matches the book because they are two different things. The same with the comic book movies. Ultron and Thanos took nearly the entire Marvel Univers to defeat them in the comics. Imagine doing that in the movies.

134
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:46:22am

another haka

135
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:49:40am

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s another by an all-boy’s school, who are wearing traditional British form school blazers and shorts (summer uniforms). And the ethnic mix of the boys is pretty remarkable. Reminded me of teaching in South Africa.

136
Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:49:57am

re: #127 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The only thing that makes me wonder is…what was the flerken doing on earth, in that place, at that time? Even comic-book coincidence stretches there.

The only thing I can think of is that it was traveling with Mar-Vell for some reason, and if so…how did nobody notice that her “cat” was still around after over a half-decade, and it still had its collar on?

137
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:52:17am

Police have named a suspect in the Utrecht shooting:

Utrecht tram shooting: Manhunt after at least three killed in Dutch incident

At least three people have died and nine are wounded following the shooting, according to Utrecht mayor Jan van Zanen. He added that three of the injured are in a serious condition.
Dutch authorities are considering “a possible terrorist motive” for the incident, which happened in 24 October Square at 10:45 a.m. (5:45 a.m ET) on Monday, Utrecht police said on Twitter.
Police say Gokmen Tanis, 37, who was born in Turkey, is wanted following the incident; they have asked locals to contact authorities immediately if they see him.

138
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:53:42am

Here’s the boys’ haka, preceded by a coed school ceremony.

Attentat in Neuseeland: Studenten performen rituellen Maori-Tanz “Haka” zu Ehren der Opfer

139
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:55:02am

re: #102 William Lewis

Yep. I’d love to be a journalist for a day just to ask him “How does it feel to know you’ll be remembered as the worst president in American history, if you’re remembered at all?”

Live on in infamy is not something that a good person wishes on himself.

140
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 7:58:53am

re: #139 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Live on in infamy is not something that a good person wishes on himself.

In Trump’s fevered brain, he believes he is the Greatest and Most Favoritest President Ever in History™.

141
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:01:20am
142
A Three Hour Tour  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:02:09am

Sorry to derail, but oddly enough, my final dream before waking this morning was LGF related.

In it, our host had unearthed a long-lost and forgotten video clip of him as a (musical) guest on THE MUPPET SHOW. Dream-Charles came across a little wooden in the bantering with the Muppets, but the musical number with Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem rocked. Unfortunately, in my waking state, I can’t remember the song.

143
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:04:39am

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reviving the cells does not necessarily mean we could grow a baby mammoth from them.

Still, I’m more worried about losing animals that are now nearly extinct than trying to de-extinctify species that are long gone.

144
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:05:17am

re: #142 A Three Hour Tour

Sorry to derail, but oddly enough, my final dream before waking this morning was LGF related.

In it, our host had unearthed a long-lost and forgotten video clip of him as a (musical) guest on THE MUPPET SHOW. Dream-Charles came across a little wooden in the bantering with the Muppets, but the musical number with Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem rocked. Unfortunately, in my waking state, I can’t remember the song.

It’s Not Easy Being Green, perhaps?

145
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:05:48am
146
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:07:53am

re: #143 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Reviving the cells does not necessarily mean we could grow a baby mammoth from them.

Still, I’m more worried about losing animals that are now nearly extinct than trying to de-extinctify species that are long gone.

I think the possibility of doing things with the latter means a lot toward applying those learnings to the former, especially since it means less chance of experiments that might damage an already dangerously low population.

147
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:08:04am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

WTFITS?

Do these people have no moral compass?

{I know the answer to the question.}

148
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:09:17am

re: #118 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

AOC is living rent free in the right wing nutosphere. And of course Dinesh de Felon continues to show why no one should take him seriously (with the bonus of a SMOTI retweet).

FDR deserves criticism but Reagan was far worse on race in context with his time period. Dinesh is in denial about Reagan as all Reagan’s fans about him and race.

149
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:09:23am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

PEOPLE SHOULD READ THE ENTIRE “MEIN KAMPF” IN GERMAN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A GREAT DANCER DER FUEHRER WAS!!!1!!!!

150
retired cynic  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:10:55am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Somebody else appears to be getting some facial reconstruction…

151
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:11:20am

re: #150 retired cynic

Somebody else appears to be getting some facial reconstruction…

and it’s not working…

152
wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:12:27am

Time for bed here. Trump and his collection of Misfit Toys make me sick. I need to step away from the computer before I say something that will get me banned.

Tomorrow is another day.

Ciao.

153
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:13:49am
154
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:15:47am

re: #147 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

WTFITS?

Do these people have no moral compass?

{I know the answer to the question.}

For future reference:
[question type=rhetorical]Do these people have no moral compass?[/question]

155
Citizen K  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:16:16am

I think we found the source of Trump’s latest hobby horse:

156
Barefoot Grin  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:16:20am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

While I haven’t seen a crossing-guard turkey, I’ve had to wait on lines of turkeys crossing the road (not far from where that video was made, actually) several times.

157
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:17:59am
158
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:20:46am
159
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:22:10am

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

When it comes to Trump and stats he quotes - invariably ~100% are bulkshit. Trump makes up the stats and counts on no one holding him accountable for the lie or exaggeration.

160
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:25:14am
161
Mike Lamb  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:31:25am

re: #118 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

AOC is living rent free in the right wing nutosphere. And of course Dinesh de Felon continues to show why no one should take him seriously (with the bonus of a SMOTI retweet).

Who are the KKK, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. supporting now?

162
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:34:22am

re: #81 lawhawk

Sorry my computer chucked me out for a while there.

Agreed on wanting to have another vote, Mr. Hawk.

I have two views on the “misinformation” campaign of Leave.

On the one hand, yes, they used dubious numbers or outright fabrications, stupid posters with brown people on them, the spectre of Turkish people (!!!) and so on.

The problem is every party that challenges the incumbent (or incumbent situation here, in this case) can make outrageous claims and promises without accountability.

We fortunately have this wonderful thing called the internet, where claims can be fact-checked if one wants to go the source - ONS or the back of one’s annual tax statements, for example. Anyone who can read a map can see Turkey isn’t even in the EU. Anyone who can read a book can find out with a little history digging that isn’t likely to change while Greece and Cyprus have a say on it.

Low information voters CHOOSE to be that way.

It is not a crime to be an idiot. And we cannot take away the votes of people who are stupid.

It is the job of the rest of us, then, to marginalise that vote and convince the rest of the majority mainstream. There are far, far MORE people who saw right through that stupid propaganda and still voted for Leave anyway. I’ve met some of these people. They are normal, successful, intelligent people - many far more intelligent than me.

The Leave campaign tapped into a feeling that was already there. They didn’t create it.

Anyone who risks writing them ALL off as racists delegitimises themselves in the conversation, and I won’t do it when discussing the issue rationally with my countrymen and women.

CL

163
CongoJack  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:34:50am

re: #161 Mike Lamb

Kevin M Kruse takes Dinesh to the woodshed every other day. Dinesh does not understand anything, including evolution (whether it be in creatures or political theory).

The dumb… it burns… hard… but people like my granny will watch Fox and agree that THEY aren’t the racists (though lets be honest granny… you are a little racist) but its these other people.

Oh… and which political ideology is always covered in the confederate flag?

164
Curious Lifeform  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:39:20am

re: #80 Belafon

Many did not act rationally, I agree. That is their choice.

Many did. I mean it. They weighed up the cost-benefit analysis and decided we were better off outside the EU.

To me, many of those costs and benefits are still unknown - it depends on how the final exit happens really. I tend towards caution and we know what we will get inside the EU.

165
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:39:32am
166
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:39:43am

re: #163 CongoJack

Oh… and which political ideology is always covered in the confederate flag?

It is just the Culture and Heritage of Southerners like Representative Steve King of Iowa.

167
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:40:21am

re: #152 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Time for bed here. Trump and his collection of Misfit Toys make me sick.

The misfit toys weren’t evil. Poor comparison.

168
Belafon  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:46:48am

re: #167 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The misfit toys weren’t evil. Poor comparison.

We did only see the good ones.

169
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:53:00am

re: #161 Mike Lamb

Who are the KKK, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. supporting now?

Exactly. And Dinesh is wrong about FDR btw. It’s true. He did appoint a former Klan member to SCOTUS but it’s also true that Hugo Black apologized and was in the majority supporting many civil rights rulings. Pesky facts again aren’t Dinesh’s friend and Dinesh should read about FDR’s Black Cabinet. I have criticism of FDR on lynching, internment of the Japanese, & turning back refugees but FDR did a lot of positive things on Civil Rights too. A Klan enabler wouldn’t have desegregated defense industries.

170
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:55:20am
171
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:56:55am

re: #170 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Except Fox is a safe space for RW propagandists.

172
lawhawk  Mar 18, 2019 • 8:59:11am
173
Mike Lamb  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:04:21am

re: #172 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Or illegal immigrants stealing your job (and your kids, dog, etc.).

174
Teukka  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:13:28am

Comic Darwinistic Relief:

175
MsJ  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:14:18am
176
Mike Lamb  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:16:31am

re: #164 Curious Lifeform

Many did not act rationally, I agree. That is their choice.

Many did. I mean it. They weighed up the cost-benefit analysis and decided we were better off outside the EU.

To me, many of those costs and benefits are still unknown - it depends on how the final exit happens really. I tend towards caution and we know what we will get inside the EU.

What percentage really, truly understood in a fairly specific sense what it would mean to leave the EU? Do you think many understood the impact on movement of goods? Or that it could re-kindle conflict in Northern Ireland?

177
Eventual Carrion  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:17:05am

re: #174 Teukka

Comic Darwinistic Relief:

[Embedded content]

Nice landing tho’.

178
jaunte  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:17:07am

Greetings from Houston, where the Deer Park chemical fire is still going. This is a shot from a co-worker’s commute this morning. The smoke is all over the east side of the city.

179
jaunte  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:18:13am

Naphtha, Xylene and Unknown.

180
sagehen  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:19:13am

re: #176 Mike Lamb

What percentage really, truly understood in a fairly specific sense what it would mean to leave the EU? Do you think many understood the impact on movement of goods? Or that it could re-kindle conflict in Northern Ireland?

Few enough to constitute political malpractice by the REMAIN campaign…

181
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:20:00am

re: #175 MsJ

The press tour after Kellyanne leaves the White House and gets eight figures for a tell-all memoir is going to ` unbearable.

She is most certainly bound by an NDA

182
jaunte  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:21:19am

The view from my neighborhood.

183
retired cynic  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:21:23am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The press tour after Kellyanne leaves the White House and gets eight figures for a tell-all memoir is going to ` unbearable.

She is most certainly bound by an NDA

Is she counting on those being tossed out in court?

184
Man, DangerMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:21:55am

re: #142 A Three Hour Tour

Sorry to derail, but oddly enough, my final dream before waking this morning was LGF related.

In it, our host had unearthed a long-lost and forgotten video clip of him as a (musical) guest on THE MUPPET SHOW. Dream-Charles came across a little wooden in the bantering with the Muppets, but the musical number with Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem rocked. Unfortunately, in my waking state, I can’t remember the song.

one of the funniest muppet quips of all time (imo) is when they’re rehearsing something and i think it was scooter is directing gets frustrated and says ‘take five’

the band starts to play it
effing brilliant

185
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:23:50am

re: #176 Mike Lamb

What percentage really, truly understood in a fairly specific sense what it would mean to leave the EU? Do you think many understood the impact on movement of goods? Or that it could re-kindle conflict in Northern Ireland?

People had many and mixed motivations, I think for a lot of people it was a chance to flip a finger at the EU without really worrying about what it might mean.

Remember also that Scotland voted down an independence referendum in 2014, one of the major aguments against it being that it would leave Scotland stranded outside the EU with no assurance of being re-admitted.

186
MsJ  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:24:24am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The press tour after Kellyanne leaves the White House and gets eight figures for a tell-all memoir is going to ` unbearable.

She is most certainly bound by an NDA

It’s not like she would ever talk against trump, showing her for the craven, money and power hungry bitch that she is.

187
Man, DangerMan  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:25:05am

re: #156 Barefoot Grin

While I haven’t seen a crossing-guard turkey, I’ve had to wait on lines of turkeys crossing the road (not far from where that video was made, actually) several times.

lots of crossing guard ducks in florida - good, not great success rate

alas not a lot of turtle crossing guards
i have noticed more and more people will stop, pick it up and put it down on the other side

once i could have sworn i heard a turtle say “what was that all about? i was going the other way”

188
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:25:59am

re: #183 retired cynic

Is she counting on those being tossed out in court?

If Trump is impeached or laterconvicted of crimes, she would probably no longer be bound. And in general, NDAs for government employees beyond confidentiality agreements are already legally rather sketchy.

189
Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:30:40am

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Police have named a suspect in the Utrecht shooting:

Utrecht tram shooting: Manhunt after at least three killed in Dutch incident

And just like that the media no longer cares about 50 dead in a right wing terrorist attack. Now WE HAVE BALANCE!!!!

190
Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:32:52am

re: #186 MsJ

It’s not like she would ever talk against trump, showing her for the craven, money and power hungry bitch that she is.

She’ll go to work getting Jr. elected president.

191
Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:37:55am

Meanwhile, in Brexitland…..oops, the UK:

Story was PM May was gonna bring back her withdrawal agreement for a third vote this week - but now John Berkow, Speaker of Parliament, has effectively ruled that out.

Yeah…..this is now a problem. There’s only 11 days left until the UK is out of the EU and now the PM’s withdrawal agreement, which was designed to prevent a crash-out scenario - and which was rejected twice already by the Parliament - is off the table.

192
Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:41:51am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Also, this:

193
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:41:56am

I took my kids to see Dunkirk at the Cinema (they are British on their mother’s side) and told them that Dunkirk was less of a disaster than Brexit, it only took them four years to recover.

194
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:48:29am

re: #143 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Reviving the cells does not necessarily mean we could grow a baby mammoth from them.

Still, I’m more worried about losing animals that are now nearly extinct than trying to de-extinctify species that are long gone.

Given that humans were responsible for the extinction of the woolly mammoth, I have no issues in trying to restore these species.

195
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:50:36am

re: #194 Hecuba’s daughter

Given that humans were responsible for the extinction of the woolly mammoth, I have no issues in trying to restore these species.

I have also read that the last surviving mammoths were so inbred that they were barely viable, they had even lost their sense of smell.

196
Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:52:49am

I was sure this had to be a Murdoch paper, but it’s not. It’s even worse.

197
Mike Lamb  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:54:36am

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

Also, this:

[Embedded content]

Anyone know whether a long extension would pass Parliament?

198
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:54:57am

re: #196 Skip Intro

I was sure this had to be a Murdoch paper, but it’s not. It’s even worse.

[Embedded content]

199
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:55:01am

re: #196 Skip Intro

I was sure this had to be a Murdoch paper, but it’s not. It’s even worse.

[Embedded content]

Jesus. What a pathetic hot take.

200
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:55:24am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Jesus. What a pathetic hot take.

WATCH WHITENESS WORK

201
Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:56:29am

re: #197 Mike Lamb

Anyone know whether a long extension would pass Parliament?

Good question. I have no idea.

202
retired cynic  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:57:08am

Jennifer Rubin WaPo: Trump is getting worse. And Republicans’ rationalizations are getting weaker.

The only solution is to defeat Trump and his party so thoroughly that Trumpism is permanently discredited. A party that continues to defend this president is simply beyond redemption.

203
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:57:42am

re: #202 retired cynic

Jennifer Rubin WaPo: Trump is getting worse. And Republicans’ rationalizations are getting weaker.

She’s right.

204
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 9:59:32am

re: #197 Mike Lamb

Anyone know whether a long extension would pass Parliament?

EU would not extend itpast their upcoming elections in May as the UK has made it clear that they do not wish to take part. I cannot imagine that they have even named any candidates.

205
retired cynic  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:04:05am
206
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:05:27am

re: #205 retired cynic

This is a good one. She addressed it head on.

Opinions
Ilhan Omar: We must apply our universal values to all nations. Only then will we achieve peace.

And she calls out Saudi Arabia much more than Trump does but yeah she believes in Sharia Law.//

207
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:05:46am

Wiki says there are contingency plans in case of an extension of Article 50.

But this is like breaking up with your girlfriend and then asking her to come pick out your new furniture…

208
Dr Lizardo  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:06:59am

According to the UK’s Solicitor General, Robert Buckland:

We are in a major constitutional crisis here.

There are ways around this - a prorogation of parliament and a new session. We are talking about hours to March 29. Frankly we could have done without this.

Now we have this ruling to deal with, it is clearly going to require a lot of very fast but very deep thought in the hours ahead.

theguardian.com

209
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:08:46am

re: #205 retired cynic

This is a good one. She addressed it head on.

Opinions
Ilhan Omar: We must apply our universal values to all nations. Only then will we achieve peace.

Weneed to be in a position to put economic and diplomatic pressure on nations to adopt universal human values of justice, equality and humane treatment.

But if we are beholden to their interests (or have a President who is in debtto them or has business interests there) then we are in no position to have any positive influence whatsoever.

210
DodgerFan1988  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:21:29am

Coming soon to America.

211
Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:24:45am

re: #210 DodgerFan1988

Putin’s old school. He wait for laws before signing them. Trump just issues decrees now.

212
HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:26:46am

re: #210 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

Coming soon to America.

I wouldn’t be surprised.

213
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:31:22am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Weneed to be in a position to put economic and diplomatic pressure on nations to adopt universal human values of justice, equality and humane treatment.

But if we are beholden to their interests (or have a President who is in debtto them or has business interests there) then we are in no position to have any positive influence whatsoever.

It’s not just that Trump’s behavior is dictated by his business interests; his support of white supremacy is who he is; he isn’t being blackmailed into racism. To him, every relationship is transactional; he is personally opposed to justice, equality, and humane treatment. He is not being forced into those positions.

214
Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:36:27am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

They are not in denial. They are lying, trying to mislead others knowing full well in the backs of their minds that Reagan’s malignant neglect of racial concerns is based entirely on white entitlement and racism.

Reagan supporters who are not white know full well the political calculus they are playing, happy to be Samuel L Jackson’s character in Tarantino’s Django Unchained.

215
Belafon  Mar 18, 2019 • 10:58:05am

re: #210 DodgerFan1988

Coming soon to America.

How?

216
ObserverArt  Mar 18, 2019 • 11:02:21am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

FDR deserves criticism but Reagan was far worse on race in context with his time period. Dinesh is in denial about Reagan as all Reagan’s fans about him and race.

When is Dinesh D’Souza going to join the new century?

No one is worried about 1863, 1963 or 1983.

How about addressing the Democrats and the Republicans as they are today.

How about he talks about the white haters that make up the Republicans today instead of fighting over who was what in the past.

Dinesh D’Souza is slithering around in the past because he is clouding the real issues of today.

He would have a hard time saying the Democrats are not the party of people of color today. And that is why he won’t really discuss any of it because he knows the real situation.

The Republicans are the party of racists under Trump. They have taken over the Republican party and D’Souza will have a hard time denying that.

217
ObserverArt  Mar 18, 2019 • 11:13:59am

re: #170 lawhawk

Bobby Lewis
@revrrlewis
Brazile says it’s good she’s joining Fox News because we shouldn’t “retreat into ‘safe spaces’ where we simply agree with each other,” except nobody opposes Fox because they’re Afraid Of Debate — people oppose Fox because it’s extremist, right-wing propaganda.

Donna Brazile seems more than a little naive in this case. I guess she will learn all of the Fox News tricks to keep her contained from saying too much positive about Democrats and progressives and making her look crazy for conservative entertainment.

Good luck Donna. You are going to need it. I bet you are not long for Fox News.

And all of these Democrats that keep saying they will reach across the isle for bipartisan governing, are you ready to lose your hand and arm? Yeah, I’m looking at you Beto, you too Joe B.

218
ObserverArt  Mar 18, 2019 • 11:20:15am

re: #186 MsJ

It’s not like she would ever talk against trump, showing her for the craven, money and power hungry bitch that she is.

I wouldn’t make a bet on that.

The craven power and money hungry side of side of her will win out and she will dump on Trump because it is simply a juicy story and it will pay for her to do a book and tour. That is all that counts.

219
William Lewis  Mar 18, 2019 • 11:21:46am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

FDR deserves criticism but Reagan was far worse on race in context with his time period. Dinesh is in denial about Reagan as all Reagan’s fans about him and race.

The only worse president on race was Wilson.

220
sagehen  Mar 18, 2019 • 11:26:12am

re: #219 William Lewis

The only worse president on race was Wilson.

aw, c’mon. Give Andrew Jackson his due credit.

221
Old Liberal  Mar 18, 2019 • 12:02:16pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

She’s right.

That’s something that virtually everyone sane agrees with. Except the tax cuts for me crowd and other assorted morons who still don’t really oppose drumpf


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh