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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:10:03pm

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:11:33pm
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MsJ  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:12:55pm

Wingnut welfare pays very well.

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:22:29pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:23:17pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:26:22pm

re: #4 gocart mozart

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teleskiguy  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:26:53pm

Have I told all you, my friends, how the rock ‘n’ roll band Umphrey’s McGee has stolen my heart lately? I got this shirt at their show last night.

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:27:04pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:29:08pm

re: #3 MsJ

The only reason this payoff from Koch to Ryan isn’t considered corrupt quid-pro-quo under the law is that rich pig-fuckers like the Koch brothers have had their political hirelings write the laws that way.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:33:12pm

I never thought I’d get another chance to use my Caution: Eastwooding sign!

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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:41:00pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

The only plan from Howard Schultz that I want to hear is his plan for disappearing up his own asshole so that sensible people never have to hear his drivel again.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:41:55pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

I never thought I’d get another chance to use my Caution: Eastwooding sign!

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That prick wants to be the next Nader.

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:43:35pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

That prick wants to be the next Nader.

With zero followers.

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retired cynic  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:43:36pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

That prick wants to be the next Nader.

He’s got a ways to go to be that good.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 4, 2019 • 7:55:10pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:02:37pm

re: #15 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Wasn’t GPS manipulation a plot point in a James Bond movie?

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:05:28pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:07:28pm

re: #16 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Wasn’t GPS manipulation a plot point in a James Bond movie?

And the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen where they sent a jet into the World Trade Center.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:08:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:09:56pm

re: #16 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Wasn’t GPS manipulation a plot point in a James Bond movie?

Yep. Tomorrow Never Dies.

Also, the guy responsible for the manipulation wanted to start World War III for personal gain.

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Mattand  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:10:36pm

Fantasy time: Muller, being the paragon of unassailable virtue everyone says he is, steps forward and releases the report himself after watching the bullshit Barr has been doing all week.

Key word there is “fantasy”. In my darker moments, Muller is a typical Republican and puts party and power before country, and has set up the report so that with Barr’s help, Trump skates.

Part of this driven by the fucking “Bob Muller is a saint” narrative that keeps getting rammed down everyone’s throats. Similar to the “If you see a person in uniform, you aren’t a True American™ unless you immediately fall down and worship them” crap I hear all the time.

Really rubs me the wrong way.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:12:37pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

And the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen where they sent a jet into the World Trade Center.

Yes, this is often cited as “predictive programming”. Conspiracy theorists believe this was one of many ways the government helped prepare us for the 9/11 attack they knew were coming (because they planned it).

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:17:09pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. Tomorrow Never Dies.

Also, the guy responsible for the manipulation wanted to start World War III for personal gain.

Well, what a cheerful idea. Not that Uncle Vova needs to be even more of a billionaire.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:18:07pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, this is often cited as “predictive programming”. Conspiracy theorists believe this was one of many ways the government helped prepare us for the 9/11 attack they knew was coming (because they planned it).

I always saw it in stark contrast to Condoleezza Rice saying no one could have imagined they would fly planes into buildings before congress.

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Mattand  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:21:46pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, this is often cited as “predictive programming”. Conspiracy theorists believe this was one of many ways the government helped prepare us for the 9/11 attack they knew were coming (because they planned it).

The big flaw in that being almost no one watched the Lone Gunmen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:24:06pm

re: #25 Mattand

The big flaw in that being almost no one watched the Lone Gunmen.

Which is a damned shame because it’s a criminally underrated series.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:28:18pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Which is a damned shame because it’s a criminally underrated series.

In fact, I had never heard of it till now.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:35:02pm

re: #27 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’ll save big $$$ and wait for the Tesla Roadster which will be a steal at $250k.

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:39:35pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:49:22pm

Here’s a more utilitarian electric.

London Black Cab TX | Fully Charged

They refer to Geely, which is a Chinese automobile maker. It owns LEVC TX and Volvo, and has a majority interest in Lotus.

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sagehen  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:52:12pm

re: #24 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

I always saw it in stark contrast to Condoleezza Rice saying no one could have imagined they would fly planes into buildings before congress.

Tom Clancy certainly imagined it; the last chapter of Debt of Honor (1994) and the opening chapter of Executive Orders (1996) has a fully-fueled jumbo jet being deliberately crashed into the capitol on State of the Union night…

That’s how Jack Ryan becomes president, he gets to appoint 7 Supremes, an almost all-new Cabinet, there’s no Congress for awhile until the governors can appoint a bunch of replacement senators and schedule immediate congressional elections….

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2019 • 8:55:50pm

John Wesley Harding - “Making Love To Bob Dylan”
That was John Wesley Harding doing a song about Dylan. I tried to find Dylan doing the song John Wesley harding but all I could find was cover versions so here is some Italian guy

Bob Dylan - John Wesley Harding (Federico Borluzzi live in Milano)

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TedStriker  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:08:41pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

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Easy peasy, lemon squeezey:

John Wesley Harding

;-P

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:19:44pm

From last string:
re: #114 gocart mozart

Jesus H. Christ on a flaming high-wire unicycle!
Get a load of this (from the link)

Stringer, a Republican from Prescott, abruptly resigned on March 27. Two days later, the Ethics Committee released a police report that revealed that he was arrested in 1983 on suspicion of paying two children to have sex with him.

The Baltimore police report states Stringer was accused of paying two boys under the age of 15 for sex. One boy had a developmental disability, according to the report.

Rosemary Agneessens, a leader with the Prescott Education Advocacy Council, told investigators about comments Stringer made in the past few years regarding an internship where he helped English Language Learning students in third and fourth grade.

She said she was shocked when Stringer said, “I like being a daddy figure for the little girls when they sit on my lap.”

Neuter this son of a bitch with a rusty hacksaw then lock him in a cage somewhere far from civilization and throw away the key.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:25:22pm

I’ve instigated(?) two rescues in my life because I was the only person to see a signal flare. Once in SF bay, and once in the Sierra. Both times I thought about how brief that signal flare was visible. The sierra rescue happened when the hiker popped the flare as the helicopter was heading directly away from him and they didn’t see it. We were climbing Horsetail Falls and saw it and waved the helicopter back and pointed to the hiker on the ridge above us. The flare was up for maybe 3 seconds.

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vgranucci  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:25:51pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. Tomorrow Never Dies.

Also, the guy responsible for the manipulation wanted to start World War III for personal gain.

Always wondered why Rupert Murdoch didn’t sue over that one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:28:22pm

re: #35 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Just part of the experience.”

What the everloving fuck?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:33:22pm

re: #37 vgranucci

Always wondered why Rupert Murdoch didn’t sue over that one.

Would have opened him up to discovery during trial.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:38:55pm

re: #35 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

From last string:

Jesus H. Christ on a flaming high-wire unicycle!
Get a load of this (from the link)

Neuter this son of a bitch with a rusty hacksaw then lock him in a cage somewhere far from civilization and throw away the key.

I have no sympathy for that sick ass freak.

Lock that Short Eyes up for life and make him mingle with the general population.

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gwangung  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:42:23pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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A better example of the blind leading the blind I can’t think of.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:44:15pm

re: #41 gwangung

A better example of the blind leading the blind I can’t think of.

I’m just waiting to see what Tracey, Dore, Taibbi, Greenwald and their ilk will say when Mueller’s report leaks and everything they’ve been saying turns out to be false.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 4, 2019 • 9:49:42pm

Blast from the past, LGF ca. 2003. I photoshopped this from a rattlesnake warning sign.

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piratedan  Apr 4, 2019 • 10:46:18pm

re: #42 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m sure that they’ll decry the methods of the information gathering, likening it to a police state, with the exception this time that the bureaucracy is only answerable to itself and not the elected leaders of the country….

because otherwise they got nothing, other than to tell us what kind of lip gloss Putin uses on his ass

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 4, 2019 • 11:27:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2019 • 11:30:55pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 4, 2019 • 11:37:00pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:12:32am

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

This is hilarious because the narrative I’m seeing is that a bunch of overly credulous journalists got played by a serial lying administration and now as the truth drizzles out & the scope of their journalistic malpractice becomes clear are desperate to move onto something else.

The GOP needed to hop onto the crumbs that Barr tossed out and inflate them into a giant lumbering Pillsbury dough boy of exoneration.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:36:32am

Japan has successfully attacked an asteroid with a shape charged warhead.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:40:42am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

Japan’s has successfully attacked an asteroid with a shape charged warhead.

Now to stage 2 of the plan:

redirect an asteroid towards Earth and then demand enormous ransom to stop it.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:44:35am
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:46:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:47:00am

re: #51 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Do you Erdoganna dance?

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:49:33am

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Blast from the past, LGF ca. 2003. I photoshopped this from a rattlesnake warning sign.

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Wow, I didn’t think anyone was left from those days (except Charles, of course)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:51:55am

re: #54 Ace-o-aces

Wow, I didn’t think anyone was left from those days (except Charles, of course)

before my time, I joined in 2007

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:56:45am

re: #47 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

I am guessing that Ms Zhang is not a Chinese government spy, because such people do not let themselves get caught so easily. Zhang was cartoonishly clumsy in comparison. Maybe she hoped to gain access to Mar-a-Lago’s network somehow to get some advantageous intel for her investment company. OTOH, she knows her way around the US judicial system pretty well, so maybe she’s a distraction from the real espionage going on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:58:00am

re: #56 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I am guessing that Ms Zhang is not a Chinese government spy, because such people do not let themselves get caught so easily. Zhang was cartoonishly clumsy in comparison. Maybe she hoped to gain access to Mar-a-Lago’s network somehow to get some advantageous intel for her investment company. OTOH, she knows her way around the US judicial system pretty well, so maybe she’s a distraction from the real espionage going on.

I suspect there is a lot more to it than what is on the surface but am in no position to speculate.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:41:53am

This Thread… This!

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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:50:44am

re: #58 Dave In Austin

This Thread… This!

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Also, retweeted :)

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:34:56am

WTFITS?

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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:36:17am

re: #60 Dave In Austin

WTFITS?

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Looks like an admission of guilt to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:39:04am

re: #61 Teukka

Looks like an admission of guilt to me.

yes, but to Trump supporters it looks like a gesture of strength and resolve…

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:39:08am
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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:43:20am
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:21:34am

re: #36 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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I’ve instigated(?) two rescues in my life because I was the only person to see a signal flare. Once in SF bay, and once in the Sierra. Both times I thought about how brief that signal flare was visible. The sierra rescue happened when the hiker popped the flare as the helicopter was heading directly away from him and they didn’t see it. We were climbing Horsetail Falls and saw it and waved the helicopter back and pointed to the hiker on the ridge above us. The flare was up for maybe 3 seconds.

scuba divers are ‘encouraged’ to carry whistles (for use on the surface)

when a dive boat’s engines are underway, looking for a ‘missing’ diver, you can’t hear anything, not even an Acme Thunderer

these days they do make air horns that attach to one of your air hoses. i still wouldnt rely on one.

as for visual sightings, assuming clear and mostly calm conditions, you cant easily see their tiny heads bobbing in the water between even light swells

you need a scuba sausage to get some height, or even waving your fin can help if its got some color

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:23:39am

- so Biden tweets a response trump tweeting a doctored parody of biden

- and “Timmothy Pitzen” was a hoax carried out by a guy who was just released from prison.

and im barely through page one

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:31:08am

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

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Katty seem to be returning to the exception rather than the rule, as I notice more and more journalists suggesting that the Dems “might have a point” in pressing Barr for the full report.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:36:06am

re: #67 Targetpractice

Katty seem to be returning to the exception rather than the rule, as I notice more and more journalists suggesting that the Dems “might have a point” in pressing Barr for the full report.

Asking an Attorney General to make available the results of (or at least a more detailed report on) a two-year investigation…yeah might be a good idea…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:03:46am

I know some of you are lukewarm about the latest Star Trek series, but there is a notable link between it and TOS in episode 12.

Pike holds a “time crystal” in his hands and sees the accident that will put him in the mobile life support unit we see in “The Menagerie.” Warned that taking possession of the crystal will seal his fate, Pike chooses to accept his fate.

The USS Enterprise will make an appearance in the next episode.

Incidentally, it’s been renewed for a third season.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:12:24am

this is starting to get nutso

Another woman accuses Biden of encroaching on personal space

“‘encroaching on personal space” is now an op-ed reportable thing? really?

and this from the story:

Karasek had just appeared onstage at the Academy Awards alongside survivors of sexual assault and advocates while Lady Gaga performed a song from a documentary about assault on college campuses. Biden had introduced the group, and Karasek wrote that afterward she told him the story of a woman who days before had died by suicide after being sexually assaulted.

In response to her story, Karasek wrote, Biden “leaned down, took my hands and put his forehead to mine.”

“I was taken aback. I averted my eyes, hoping my body language could shorten the interaction. I didn’t think he was going to kiss me, but it felt like if I met his eyes, it wasn’t out of the question, either,” she continued. “It was unwelcome, uncomfortable and strange. At the same time, I was glad to convey this serious message to him, glad it seemed to resonate with him.”

sorry, i dont see this at all
you thought he might kiss you? really? in the circumstances you just described? really really?

imo the man was showing empathy, commiserating. yeah, maybe in a way you didnt quite like.

how do you make this sexual and inappropriate? at best it’s some kind of ‘unwanted’ thing.

lots of things happen to all of us every day that are ‘unwanted’

they’re watering this stuff down to make it almost meaningless

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:14:32am

re: #70 Man, DangerMan

It’s a smear campaign intended to sideline Joe as a viable candidate. Probably it’s work of the Berniebots.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:16:40am
Brenda Spencer’s name is largely forgotten now. But that is not true of her shocking explanation for the mass shooting — for it inspired Bob Geldof, lead singer of the Boomtown Rats, to write I Don’t Like Mondays after he read a report of the tragedy.

News reports from 1979 show teachers and police officers assisting school children in evacuating the elementary school as a six-hour standoff ensues +5
News reports from 1979 show teachers and police officers assisting school children in evacuating the elementary school as a six-hour standoff ensues

The song became No 1 in the UK singles chart and was backed by an eerie video in which the band performed the piano ballad to a classroom of young children.

Its chorus of ‘I don’t like Mondays, I want to shoot the whole day down’, along with lines such as ‘The silicon chip inside her head gets switched to overload’ refer specifically to the twisted mind of Brenda Spencer.

The song never mentions her name and Geldof admitted that most fans thought it was about how having a hangover made Mondays unbearable. But the link with the San Diego shooting was soon spotted by Spencer herself.

‘She wrote to me saying she was glad she’d done it because I’d made her famous,’ Geldof said years later. ‘Which is not a good thing to live with.’

He added: ‘Not liking Mondays as a reason for doing somebody in is a bit strange. It was the perfect senseless act and this was the perfect senseless reason for doing it.’

dailymail.co.uk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:18:06am

re: #70 Man, DangerMan

this is starting to get nutso

imo the man was showing empathy, commiserating. yeah, maybe in a way you didnt quite like.

how do you make this sexual and inappropriate? at best it’s some kind of ‘unwanted’ thing.

lots of things happen to all of us every day that are ‘unwanted’

they’re watering this stuff down to make it almost meaningless

It is all quite calculated. They see an avenue of attack against a potentially strong candidate to challenge the Pussy Grabber-in-Chief and they are exploiting it to the full.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:19:28am

re: #70 Man, DangerMan

Yesterday I heard Rush talking about Biden, using words like “groping” and “hands all over,” accusations I have heard no one make. They are making his actions out to be comparable to those that Kavanaugh and Trump are accused of, except they believe these women.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:22:42am

re: #74 Flying Squirrel Girl

Yesterday I heard Rush talking about Biden, using words like “groping” and “hands all over,” accusations I have heard no one make. They are making his actions out to be comparable to those that Kavanaugh and Trump are accused of, except they believe these women.

IOKIYAR

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:25:40am

re: #74 Flying Squirrel Girl

Yesterday I heard Rush talking about Biden, using words like “groping” and “hands all over,” accusations I have heard no one make. They are making his actions out to be comparable to those that Kavanaugh and Trump are accused of, except they believe these women.

In Trumps case, not just accused of, but outright admitted…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:26:30am

re: #75 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

IOKIYAR

It has nothing to do with respect or deference for women, it has to do with bringing down Biden before he can gather any momentum.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:26:57am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course.

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jeffreyw  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:33:39am

Good morning!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:39:55am

re: #79 jeffreyw

The one that got away. Cat will now tell its buds that he almost caught an albatross.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:42:31am

re: #80 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The one that got away. Cat will now tell its buds that he almost caught an albatross.

almost caught a pope!

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:54:34am
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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:00:32am
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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:02:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:10:34am

re: #83 Belafon

Have now read 10 articles about Trump’s threat to impose auto tariffs on Mexico that don’t mention Trump has already brought a deal into force that effectively exempts Mexico from any auto tariffs he imposes.

Art is ephemeral, especially the Art of the Deal…

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:15:04am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s still railing on and on about the Mueller report that exonerates him, which is a tell that it does nothing of the sort. He’s absolutely afraid of the full contents being released because it would reveal all kinds of criminal misconduct and impeachable offenses that fall short of the evidenciary standard of a conviction (beyond a reasonable doubt). But it’s more than enough to impeach and remove from office - as obstruction is clearly an impeachable offense.

Meanwhile, Democrats continue to see more people throw their hat in the ring if only for self-gratification as they have no chance of success. With that in mind, here’s my updated list (dropping out those who have decided against running).

Tier One: Harris, Booker, Warren, Gillibrand, Castro, Klobuchar (no order ranking yet)
Tier Two: Beto, Inslee, Buttigieg, Hickenlooper
Tier Three: McAuliffe, Delaney, Yang
Tier Four: Biden, Ryan, Williamson
Tier Five (don’t just go away.. show us the tax returns first): Bernie, Tulsi.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:18:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:19:36am

re: #86 lawhawk

Trump’s…absolutely afraid of the full contents being released because it would reveal all kinds of criminal misconduct and impeachable offenses that fall short of the evidenciary standard of a conviction (beyond a reasonable doubt). But it’s more than enough to impeach and remove from office - as obstruction is clearly an impeachable offense.

There is enough evidence out there without the report to impeach him on conflict of interest charges as well as gross & threatening violations of national security and of the Emoluments Clause.

The Mueller Report will only add to the obvious reasons, the only thing that will motivate the GOP to act is to avoid being seen as complicit or even as partners in an organized crime syndicate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:20:26am

re: #87 Belafon

What appears to have happened: Border Patrol accurately described the project in early 2018 as long-planned replacement fence, then Trump’s team decided in late 2018, having not built any new wall, that it was going to brand replacement fence as his wall, so a plaque went up.

Is Trump planning a trip to Iwo Jima to replant the flag there?

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:23:13am

re: #72 Shropshire Slasher

dailymail.co.uk

Morning!

The Brenda Spencer story is chilling.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:29:34am
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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:31:22am

re: #82 Belafon

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You know, back when I did this little Photoshop image I was joking, but then maybe I wasn’t. I had a feeling even then that Bernie and Trump were more alike than different. Sure, their politics are different, but they also share a lot traits. Bad traits.

“We got yer carzy bases covered…and it’ll be great. Make America Nuts Again!
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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:31:46am

re: #91 Belafon

Escher’s Brexit
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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:32:20am

re: #87 Belafon

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We saw this coming the moment he started talking “artistically designed slats” and accusing Dems of lying about his promises to build a concrete wall. He’s insisted for months that his “wall” is already being built, despite DHS saying not a single foot of such has even started construction. That he’s slapped his name on it now will make it official in the minds of his wingnut base that he has “won,” he’s got his “wall” started, and the Dems are standing in the way of his getting it finished.

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jeffreyw  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:33:03am

re: #80 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The one that got away. Cat will now tell its buds that he almost caught an albatross.

An eagle, man, I nearly nailed and eagle.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:33:07am

re: #82 Belafon

Morning Joe put together a montage highlighting the similarity between comments Trump and Bernie Sanders have made about releasing their tax returns 👀

liars
both of them

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:33:28am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:36:15am

re: #86 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Democrats continue to see more people throw their hat in the ring if only for self-gratification as they have no chance of success. With that in mind, here’s my updated list (dropping out those who have decided against running).

Tier One: Harris, Booker, Warren, Gillibrand, Castro, Klobuchar (no order ranking yet)
Tier Two: Beto, Inslee, Buttigieg, Hickenlooper
Tier Three: McAuliffe, Delaney, Yang
Tier Four: Biden, Ryan, Williamson
Tier Five (don’t just go away.. show us the tax returns first): Bernie, Tulsi.

You might want to add Senator Michael Bennet in your rankings. Pretty sure he is going to run. I expect him to announce for sure at any time.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:36:27am
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:39:39am

Trump Is Already Plotting His Post-White House Tell-All Memoir

look for it in your local library in section 813 - american fiction

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:41:27am

re: #100 Man, DangerMan

Trump Is Already Plotting His Post-White House Tell-All Memoir

While everyone else involved is still bound by their NDAs…

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:41:43am

re: #87 Belafon

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Feed the Big Orange Ego.

Trump is not only a terrible human, thus a terrible president.

But he is also just creepy weird. He is a mess.

But a mess needs his stupid plague dedicating just how needy he is.

“It’s my wall now…see the plaque?”

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:42:56am

re: #100 Man, DangerMan

Trump Is Already Plotting His Post-White House Tell-All Memoir

look for it in your local library in section 813 - american fiction

Ghostwritten by some poor schmuck who is going to be badgered into signing an NDA.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:47:32am

re: #103 Targetpractice

Ghostwritten by some poor schmuck who is going to be badgered into signing an NDA.

not badgered, an NDA is a given in the overall agreement, if the writer is at all smart, they will demand a sizable advance.

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:50:00am

re: #97 lawhawk

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Interesting bit here…

The memo implicates Ivanka Trump in the negotiations, stating that she knew Cohen gave false testimony to Congress. According to the memo, he told the Intelligence committees that in late 2015 the president’s daughter forwarded him “an email from the wife of a former Russian weight-lifting champion about Ivanka sponsoring a health spa at the top of the Moscow Trump Tower.” BuzzFeed News first reported that in November 2015, Ivanka Trump put Cohen in touch with the weightlifter, a Russian Olympian named Dmitry Klokov who offered to introduce Trump to President Vladimir Putin to facilitate the Moscow tower project.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:53:35am

re: #105 makeitstop

According to the memo, he told the Intelligence committees that in late 2015 the president’s daughter forwarded him “an email from the wife of a former Russian weight-lifting champion about Ivanka sponsoring a health spa at the top of the Moscow Trump Tower.”

So no direct collusion between DT personally and the Russian government, but plenty of evidence of collusion between people close to both.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:57:16am

re: #100 Man, DangerMan

Trump Is Already Plotting His Post-White House Tell-All Memoir

look for it in your local library in section 813 - american fiction

Wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole. Hard pass.

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:06:20am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So no direct collusion between DT personally and the Russian government, but plenty of evidence of collusion between people close to both.

Certainly what it sounds like. Javanka and Half-Scoop seem to be the ones who were doing the actual wheeling and dealing.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:12:15am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So no direct collusion between DT personally and the Russian government, but plenty of evidence of collusion between people close to both.

re: #108 Targetpractice

Certainly what it sounds like. Javanka and Half-Scoop seem to be the ones who were doing the actual wheeling and dealing.

Trump probably thinks he has plausible deniability when he said he never dealt with Russians.

But everyone around him and on the campaign, etc. dealt with the Russians or Russian connections that added further deniability.

But all that means is conspiracy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:13:07am

re: #109 ObserverArt

Trump probably thinks he has plausible deniability when he said he never dealt with Russians.

But everyone around him and on the campaign, etc. dealt with the Russians or Russian connections that added further deniability.

But all that means is conspiracy.

Trump can convincingly claim that he was totally unaware of any wrongdoing…

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:14:59am

Kurt Cobain passed 25 years ago today. No doubt there will be plenty of Nirvana music played today, but instead of doing that I’ll post what I think was Steve Earle’s fond tribute to Cobain. RIP Kurt.

Steve Earle - Transcendental Blues

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:19:02am

re: #109 ObserverArt

Trump probably thinks he has plausible deniability when he said he never dealt with Russians.

But everyone around him and on the campaign, etc. dealt with the Russians or Russian connections that added further deniability.

But all that means is conspiracy.

I’m beginning to edge away from conspiracy and look at another crime listed under impeachment that would seem to be easier to prove: Bribery. It seems fairly clear that what happened was Donny was made an offer: Russian help influencing the election in exchange for payment to be discussed after the end of the election. If Hillary had won, she’d be weakened by the rodent copulation campaign and Vlad would help Donny get Trump Tower Moscow built. But if Donny won, then the payment would be sanctions relief.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:22:55am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

While everyone else involved is still bound by their NDAs…

cant blame a guy for being the merest tad smarter than the morons who choose to work for him knowing full well…

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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:25:13am

re: #111 makeitstop

Kurt Cobain passed 25 years ago today. No doubt there will be plenty of Nirvana music played today, but instead of doing that I’ll post what I think was Steve Earle’s fond tribute to Cobain. RIP Kurt.

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Video

Wasn’t a big fan of Nirvana so while i was sad for him, for his wife & daughter, I wasn’t as busted up as some. I lived less than a mile from Butch Vigg’s studio at the time though; wish I’d taken advantage of that.

About a month? month and a half? after the, suicide though, Courtney Love and Hole performed in Madison. Verruca Salt opened. Insane - literally insane - show that night. Between the drugs and the grief, I can’t imagine how she was functioning but most of it was an amazing and intense show up until it totally went off the rails at the end. She started stripping out of her dress, pulled a guy up out of the mosh to dance with, then accused him of taking her dress off and trying hard to start a bar fight. At that point her band pulled her back into the dressing room and IIRC VS played a short set just to calm things down and the owners shut the club down for the night. Def the most punk night of the 90’s for me O_o

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:26:11am

re: #107 Patricia Kayden

Wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole. Hard pass.

probably couldnt get one into the library anyway

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:28:23am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump can convincingly claim that he was totally unaware of any wrongdoing…

- ‘my kids did it’
- that does make him the definition of useful idiot (and now by his kids as well)
- if he really was that clueless (and not just using it for show/deniability) then he’s admitting he’s totally incompetent

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:30:27am

re: #114 William Lewis

Wasn’t a big fan of Nirvana so while i was sad for him, for his wife & daughter, I wasn’t as busted up as some. I lived less than a mile from Butch Vigg’s studio at the time though; wish I’d taken advantage of that.

About a month? month and a half? after the, suicide though, Courtney Love and Hole performed in Madison. Verruca Salt opened. Insane - literally insane - show that night. Between the drugs and the grief, I can’t imagine how she was functioning but most of it was an amazing and intense show up until it totally went off the rails at the end. She started stripping out of her dress, pulled a guy up out of the mosh to dance with, then accused him of taking her dress off and trying hard to start a bar fight. At that point her band pulled her back into the dressing room and IIRC VS played a short set just to calm things down and the owners shut the club down for the night. Def the most punk night of the 90’s for me O_o

Great story!

Tangent: Are you familiar with a band called The Wildhearts? Unsung heroes. I’ll never understand why they’re not absolutely huge. Ginger Wildheart is one of the best rock songwriters ever IMO.

Anyway - he wrote a song for Courtney called ‘Honour.’ Here’s a live performance with Ginger playing guitar.

Ginger Wildheart & Courtney Love - Honour

(That’s Ginger singing with her.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:30:48am

Motel 6 reached a $12 million settlement with Washington state on Thursday after prosecutors said the chain violated privacy rights by giving information to immigration officials that sometimes led to the detainment or deportation of former guests.

Attorney General Bob Ferguson said that the company improperly provided U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents with “Latino-sounding” names of tens of thousands of hotel guests for two years. Some of those guests later were detained or deported as a result of those targeted investigations.


“Motel 6’s actions tore families apart and violated the privacy rights of tens of thousands of Washingtonians,” Ferguson said in a statement. “Our resolution holds Motel 6 accountable for illegally handing over guests’ private information without a warrant.”

Motel 6 can fuck right off. I am NOT Latino but my real last name definitely sounds Latino to people who don’t know any better (it’s actually European), so I probably would have been targeted had my name ended up one of those lists.

Commenters on Fox News are of course thrilled that Motel 6 is doing this.

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stpaulbear  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:31:04am

re: #72 Shropshire Slasher

Brenda Spencer’s name is largely forgotten now. But that is not true of her shocking explanation for the mass shooting — for it inspired Bob Geldof, lead singer of the Boomtown Rats, to write I Don’t Like Mondays after he read a report of the tragedy.

I saw the Boomtown Rats play at a bar in Minneapolis called Jay’s Longhorn. For their final encore, Geldof and the piano player (Johnnie Fingers) came out to perform ‘I Don’t Like Mondays’ Bob said that they’d just written the song and the whole band didn’t know it yet. It may have been the first time it was ever performed.

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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:32:26am

re: #114 William Lewis

Ah, there’s what I wanted a moment ago, a nice live perfomance. No where near as crazy but it starts to give an idea of her energy.

HOLE - Courtney Love - Celebrity Skin live MTV

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:34:31am

In honor of Cobain, one of my favourite Nirvana songs from my favourite ever show of theirs:

Lake Of Fire - Nirvana

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:34:50am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump can convincingly claim that he was totally unaware of any wrongdoing…

Which, disgracefully, he can, and probably will, get away with. I mean, it may even be true: Donald Trump seems to be “unaware” of a great many things. To me, it means little, though: that a Presidential campaign could be rotten with under-the-table foreign influence and shady dealings over stolen data is scandal enough - even if one can accept that the candidate himself was out-of-the-loop* - it’s still a terrible verdict on their judgement that they wouldn’t police their organization better. But of course, it being Trump: he didn’t, they didn’t, and apparently decided to simply rely on denialist bluster to avoid the appearance of responsibility. And sadly, in the All-About-ME!!!! Administration, in the absence of smoking-gun/bloody-dagger-with-fingerprints-level of evidence, as long as that personal involvement can’t be absolutely proven, King Orangeanus is going to skate.

*Which case I don’t believe for a nanosecond, FWIW

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:39:41am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:42:49am

re: #123 Belafon

This Tucker Carlson must have something against the opposite sex. I wonder is he married?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:44:50am

re: #123 Belafon

Wow, and the video she liked to is flagged as “sensitive material”. Stupid Twitter.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:49:43am

re: #120 William Lewis

Ah, there’s what I wanted a moment ago, a nice live perfomance. No where near as crazy but it starts to give an idea of her energy.

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Video

Wait, is that whole video reversed??? Everyone is a lefty!

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:49:47am
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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:49:52am

Donny saying aloud what the Banana Republicans wish was spoken in code:

“They have to get rid of catch and release, chain migration, Visa lottery. They have to get rid of them because it doesn’t work. And frankly, we should get rid of Judges. You can’t have a court case every time somebody steps their foot on our ground. So very important that Congress acts.”

I’d say this clears up the question from the other day of which judges he was attacking and over what.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:52:09am
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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:52:41am

re: #126 ObserverArt

Wait, is that whole video reversed??? Everyone is a lefty!

Hahhahahahahh! I didn’t even notice - I was looking for sound!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:54:27am

re: #122 Jay C

Which, disgracefully, he can, and probably will, get away with. I mean, it may even be true: Donald Trump seems to be “unaware” of a great many things. To me, it means little, though: that a Presidential campaign could be rotten with under-the-table foreign influence and shady dealings over stolen data is scandal enough - even if one can accept that the candidate himself was out-of-the-loop* - it’s still a terrible verdict on their judgement that they wouldn’t police their organization better.

Everyone around him will do time, but suspect that he will walk. And even if he loses most of his assets, he can recoup them with book tours and appearances.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:56:55am

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

The NRA is a bunch of lying creeps. HW was right in getting his money back from them.

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:57:17am

re: #126 ObserverArt

Wait, is that whole video reversed??? Everyone is a lefty!

That’s a way to get around illegal copying - Youtube’s scanning doesn’t pick it up as an unauthorized copy.

Sometimes people will ‘tilt’ the video on an angle to get around infringement, too.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:00:16am

re: #133 makeitstop

That’s a way to get around illegal copying - Youtube’s scanning doesn’t pick it up as an unauthorized copy.

Sometimes people will ‘tilt’ the video on an angle to get around infringement, too.

Well, that is now my learn-something-new-everyday thing.

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gwangung  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:00:52am

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

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Very common on the right. They disbelieve any maltreatment, despite verified eyewitness reports, documents and reports.

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:01:28am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Everyone around him will do time, but suspect that he will walk. And even if he loses most of his assets, he can recoup them with book tours and appearances.

True: and given the amount of debt the Orange Anus is likely to have run up over his pre-Presidential career, he’d probably need a “book tour” on the scale of Mao’s Long March to recoup it.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:03:09am

re: #123 Belafon

Democracy and civil rights is how we got a country where “feminists do science.”

this is half right as to how women gained entry into the sciences

science is (more or less) the recognition of independently repeatable, verifiable results. so the other half is that science itself doesnt give a damn who ‘does it’

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:03:29am

re: #135 gwangung

Very common on the right. They disbelieve any maltreatment, despite verified eyewitness reports, documents and reports.

And the disgusting NRA plays to them.

I bet Grant Stinchfield knows she is telling the truth too. His job is to lie.

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:04:35am

re: #135 gwangung

Very common on the right. They disbelieve any maltreatment, despite verified eyewitness reports, documents and reports.

Either that, or approve of the maltreatment as a useful “deterrent” for the “illegals”…

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:05:24am

re: #128 Targetpractice

Donny saying aloud what the Banana Republicans wish was spoken in code:

“And frankly, we should get rid of Judges. You can’t have a court case every time somebody steps their foot on our ground. So very important that Congress acts.”

I’d say this clears up the question from the other day of which judges he was attacking and over what.

frankly, you don’t know the first thing about the constitution

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:06:37am

re: #140 Man, DangerMan

frankly, you don’t know the first thing about the constitution

Major item of wingnut dogma: The Constitution only applies to “Real ‘Murikans.” And the list of who qualifies grows narrower and narrower.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:06:39am
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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:06:49am

re: #134 ObserverArt

Well, that is now my learn-something-new-everyday thing.

I remember Nines posted a Petty video here one time that was ‘tilted’ - it was from SNL (with Grohl playing drums) and it was tilted. That’s the first I ever learned of it, and the video now appears to be gone.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:07:30am

So the initial estimate for March job creation numbers is 196,000, about average for the last nine years, and February’s number was revised upward from 20k to 33k, so it looks like that was just a statistical blip and not a sign of a slow down in job creation. Over the last 12 months wages have gone up only 3.2%, indicating that we still don’t have any shortage of labor. This isn’t surprising, because the employment population ratio for prime age workers is still below 80%. The economy sustained a ratio of over 80% for five years from 1996-2001, and prime age adults today have more education and fewer children than then, so we should be able to achieve and sustain an even higher employment ratio now. The Fed is making the right decision to stop raising interest rates since inflation is still muted and it looks like a global economic slowdown is brewing.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:08:29am
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plansbandc  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:10:06am

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

One of my dude’s very favorite songs.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:11:09am

re: #141 Targetpractice

Major item of wingnut dogma: The Constitution only applies to “Real ‘Murikans.” And the list of who qualifies grows narrower and narrower.

the framers meant exactly what they meant
except when they specifically chose to use ‘citizen’, “person’, or ‘people’

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:12:43am

re: #145 Patricia Kayden

Trump tried to rush in a lawyer at the IRS who could try to shield his taxes

cmon, this is just sloppy

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:12:58am

The so-called crisis at the border is the result of Trump refusing to properly address asylum claims and forcibly separating children from their parents and treating them as criminals.

Asylum is legal immigration.
Asylum is legal immigration.

Trump is a white supremacist bigot who fears nonwhites.
The GOP are white supremacists who fear nonwhites (and women).
Their policies are all about maximizing harms to nonwhites and women.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:16:24am

re: #32 sagehen

Tom Clancy certainly imagined it; the last chapter of Debt of Honor (1994) and the opening chapter of Executive Orders (1996) has a fully-fueled jumbo jet being deliberately crashed into the capitol on State of the Union night…

That’s how Jack Ryan becomes president, he gets to appoint 7 Supremes, an almost all-new Cabinet, there’s no Congress for awhile until the governors can appoint a bunch of replacement senators and schedule immediate congressional elections….

Essentially the Tom Clancy dream event to allow the creation of a conservative dictatorship/oligarchy.

I forget at what point in reading the novels, probably around _Rainbow 6_, I realized that they were all variations of conservative wet dreams coming true for the hero and US government. Liberal nuts or obstructionists get their comeuppance, various enemy factions (drug lords, terrorists, communists, non-USA industrialists) are defeated and shown to be inferior. And so forth.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:19:32am

re: #143 makeitstop

I remember Nines posted a Petty video here one time that was ‘tilted’ - it was from SNL (with Grohl playing drums) and it was tilted. That’s the first I ever learned of it, and the video now appears to be gone.

Yeah, the Replacements on SNL was tilted (not sure it still exists, but it’s really something).

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:23:35am

re: #137 Man, DangerMan

this is half right as to how women gained entry into the sciences

science is (more or less) the recognition of independently repeatable, verifiable results. so the other half is that science itself doesnt give a damn who ‘does it’

You are correct. Science doesn’t care. Fragile Male egos, on the other hand…

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:25:23am

Was checking some YouTubes and saw this. It gives me a bit more background on her amazing talent.

Tal Wilkenfeld’s Story

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darthstar  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:25:36am

Hey, he’s the one who brought up garbage…of course I assumed he meant Sarah.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:27:04am

re: #150 Feline Fearless Leader

Essentially the Tom Clancy dream event to allow the creation of a conservative dictatorship/oligarchy.

I forget at what point in reading the novels, probably around _Rainbow 6_, I realized that they were all variations of conservative wet dreams coming true for the hero and US government. Liberal nuts or obstructionists get their comeuppance, various enemy factions (drug lords, terrorists, communists, non-USA industrialists) are defeated and shown to be inferior. And so forth.

Still remember when Clancy was at a Teabagger rally uttering the birther bullshit. Never liked him at all. A real arrogant asshole!

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:29:01am

re: #155 Joe Bacon 🌹

Some of his books are good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:29:40am

Mike Huckabee really needs to stop trying to be funny.

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:29:50am

re: #151 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, the Replacements on SNL was tilted (not sure it still exists, but it’s really something).

Still up.

The Replacements - Bastards of Young (SNL 1986)

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:32:19am

re: #153 ObserverArt

Was checking some YouTubes and saw this. It gives me a bit more background on her amazing talent.

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Video

I got to meet Tal a couple of years ago. Nice lady. She was putting her band together and recording her album at the time, and she was excited because she’d just purchased a theremin. :)

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:35:33am

re: #155 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still remember when Clancy was at a Teabagger rally uttering the birther bullshit. Never liked him at all. A real arrogant asshole!

I liked his books… but soured on him when I went to a book signing and he treated it like it was the worst thing in life.

He’s meeting his fans and he couldn’t be bothered to talk or make eye contact or write anything other than his name.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:36:24am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Mike Huckabee really needs to stop trying to be funny.

Mike Huckabee needs to stop being a thing.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:36:40am

re: #153 ObserverArt

Was checking some YouTubes and saw this. It gives me a bit more background on her amazing talent.

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Great interview with her on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:38:43am
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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:39:24am

re: #150 Feline Fearless Leader

Essentially the Tom Clancy dream event to allow the creation of a conservative dictatorship/oligarchy.

I forget at what point in reading the novels, probably around _Rainbow 6_, I realized that they were all variations of conservative wet dreams coming true for the hero and US government. Liberal nuts or obstructionists get their comeuppance, various enemy factions (drug lords, terrorists, communists, non-USA industrialists) are defeated and shown to be inferior. And so forth.

I had stopped reading him long before that for an even simpler reason - in his books everything always works right the first time and never fails. Anyone who has dealt with military equipment knows better. That pushed them off to silly fantasy land and I never looked back.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:40:54am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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Brotastic. Add Greenwald and you get a full house of insufferable jackassery.

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CarolJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:42:19am

re: #136 Jay C

I doubt it. Trump is hated all over and after what comes out, especially once he’s out of office and can no longer bully people into staying silent, will make it worse. He better hope that Putin is still around, or Putin’s successor feels generous. He’s going to have to live off his Presidential Pension (maybe they can’t seize that) and the charity of some oligarch.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:43:59am

re: #79 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Hey, how did my cat Bunny get there!

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:44:37am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Mike Huckabee really needs to stop trying to be funny.

Mike Huckabee really needs to start acting like the Christian he claims to be.

He’s never been funny.

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Skip Intro  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:54:32am

re: #145 Patricia Kayden

And he succeeded. No Trump tax returns for you.

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:55:53am

re: #166 CarolJ

I doubt it. Trump is hated all over and after what comes out, especially once he’s out of office and can no longer bully people into staying silent, will make it worse. He better hope that Putin is still around, or Putin’s successor feels generous. He’s going to have to live off his Presidential Pension (maybe they can’t seize that) and the charity of some oligarch.

I wish I could agree with you, but examining Donald Trump’s whole career, the one business skill he has consistently exhibited is the knack of being able to rake off and squirrel away large sums of money from his “deals” - successful or otherwise. And which are probably parked in various untouchable* accounts.
Barring his falling victim to a serious and effective campaign of asset-stripping (hugely desirable but probably unlikely), it’s likely The Donald’s “golden years” will, disgracefully, indeed be golden.

*untouchable by authorities, that is: I’m sure they’ll be quite touchable by Trump and/or his family….

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:57:42am

re: #32 sagehen

Tom Clancy certainly imagined it; the last chapter of Debt of Honor (1994) and the opening chapter of Executive Orders (1996) has a fully-fueled jumbo jet being deliberately crashed into the capitol on State of the Union night…

That’s how Jack Ryan becomes president, he gets to appoint 7 Supremes, an almost all-new Cabinet, there’s no Congress for awhile until the governors can appoint a bunch of replacement senators and schedule immediate congressional elections….

Wingnut porn. That’s where I stopped reading Clancy.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:58:47am
Chain gangs, segregation and poverty: Itinerant photographer’s newly-published shots capture racial and economic divides in the South in the early 20th century
Never-before-seen portraits document the American South during turbulent years of the early 20th century
Photographer Hugh Mangum traveled across North Carolina and the Virginias to take his subjects’ portraits
A new book reveals his fascinating archive of stunning images showing everyday life during segregation

dailymail.co.uk

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:59:38am

re: #35 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

From last string:

Jesus H. Christ on a flaming high-wire unicycle!
Get a load of this (from the link)

Neuter this son of a bitch with a rusty hacksaw then lock him in a cage somewhere far from civilization and throw away the key.

Scratch a conservative who is obsessed with controlling women and their reproductive organs, and as likely as not you get a freak like this guy.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:01:21am

re: #122 Jay C

DT can’t be out of the loop and make up the lies about the Trump Tower meeting at the same time.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:07:36am

re: #150 Feline Fearless Leader

Why I never read a single Tom Clancy novel.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:09:31am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Mike Huckabee really needs to stop trying to be funny.

Is that what the tweet was? Wow. Hard. Fail.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:13:35am

re: #175 retired cynic

Why I never read a single Tom Clancy novel.

I’ve tried, but I don’t have a strong interest in the Military so I find them rather boring.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:13:47am

re: #126 ObserverArt

Wait, is that whole video reversed??? Everyone is a lefty!

I noticed that too

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:16:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:20:16am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Mike Huckabee really needs to stop trying to be funny.

Actually, he PAYS somebody to write those twitter “jokes” for him…

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:20:35am

re: #175 retired cynic

Why I never read a single Tom Clancy novel.

Red Storm Rising

was good. Kept it as a straight up war story without the wingnut BS he started bringing in later.

Cardinal of The Kremlin

was pretty good too. Started going downhill real fast after that.

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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:22:50am

What’s Happening with Terrorism in Europe

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:23:29am

re: #179 jaunte

Congresswoman, I’m sure the Border Patrol Laredo Sector, would be happy to give you a full briefing on the crisis here on the border. How about you join me & see for yourself. We just capture 8 illegals 3 minutes ago. Thankfully they weren’t armed like the others 2 days ago.

if the activity along the border is a ‘crisis’ then most of the police forces in the nation face a ‘crisis’ every day

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:25:07am

re: #183 Man, DangerMan

if the activity along the border is a ‘crisis’ then most of the police forces in the nation face a ‘crisis’ every day

Nailed it.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:25:08am

re: #183 Man, DangerMan

I see Dana Loesch came to his rescue armed with some hearsay about cartels firing .50 caliber machine guns.

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:25:40am
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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:28:19am
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:29:42am

re: #185 jaunte

I see Dana Loesch came to his rescue armed with some hearsay about cartels firing .50 caliber machine guns.

Envy….

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:33:12am

re: #58 Dave In Austin

This Thread… This!

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I am legit crying. Wow. Thank you for posting that.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:34:32am

re: #185 jaunte

I see Dana Loesch came to his rescue armed with some hearsay about cartels firing .50 caliber machine guns.

assuming there’s no video to support this, if they didnt actually hit anybody there should be fragments that can be picked up and used as evidence of this, right dana?

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:37:18am
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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:38:43am
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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:39:10am

re: #191 Patricia Kayden

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“And I am doing my damnedest to ensure he will remain in office another 4 years.”

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:41:13am

Should I start throwing sarcastic Warhammer memes at him?

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:44:49am

re: #115 Man, DangerMan

probably couldnt get one into the library anyway

Sure it would. Trump’s tell all would be comedy gold.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:45:03am

re: #194 Scottish Dragon

There is never a bad time to use Slaaneshi memes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:47:33am

re: #194 Scottish Dragon

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Should I start throwing sarcastic Warhammer memes at him?

Aw he had his fee fees hurt…

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:47:35am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:47:41am

My nephew and I have been texting over our IPhones the past few days. Am grateful that now I only need to type “prot” for the phone default suggestion to be “protomolecule”. Bet some of you may be able to guess what book we just finished reading!

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:48:56am
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mmmirele  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:49:48am

Ok, so last week, Billboard removed Lil Nas X’s song “Old Town Road,” a kind of a country trap song, from the top country chart, because “not country enough.” There was an uproar, lotta discussion about whether it was racism or simply annoyance that this 19 YO rapper came out of Atlanta, TikTok and YouTube instead of through the country gatekeepers in Nashville.

npr.org

Last night, Little Nas X dropped a remix with Billy Ray Cyrus (who is on record opposing what Billboard did) and Billboard does this:

Of course Twitter is giving Billboard the serious side eye.

Acvording to Wikipedia, “Old Town Road” would have peaked at number 1 this week except for Billboard’s decision that it wasn’t country enough.

It’s an interesting song and I think Billboard was wrong.

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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:52:11am

re: #194 Scottish Dragon

I’d just use this one on him myself…

but more dakka is always good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:52:36am

re: #195 MsJ

Sure it would. Trump’s tell all would be comedy gold.

Chapter 1: Crooked Hillary
Chapter 2: LANDSLIDE VICTORY!
Chapter 3: That moron Jeff Sessions
Chapter 4: WITCH HUNT!
Chapter 5: How I built the Wall with my bare hands
Chapter 6: Little Adam Schiff and others I’ve Insulted
Chapter 7: My Best Friend Kim
Chapter 8: NO COLLUSION!
Chapter 9: EXONERATION!
Chapter 10: Lock her up!
Chapter 11: NATIONAL EMERGENCY!
Chapter 12: Open Border Democrats
Chapter 13: How I win at golf (and you can too)
Chapter 14: Screw the losers and haters!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:52:55am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:56:50am

re: #200 lawhawk

The top 0.5 percent in income account for fully a fifth of all the underreported income.

Adjusted for inflation, that’s more than $50 billion each year in unpaid taxes.

That’s why it’s important to audit the ultrawealthy:

Their tax returns are so complicated it takes a team of real experts time to decipher what they’ve done. With the GOP in power, we are increasingly living in a feudal state where as Leona Helmsley said : “We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.”

Estate taxes need to be increased, though not to their original punitive level.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:56:58am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump’s right…. that is a crisis.

No one takes him seriously and considers him a tangerine toddler to be made fun of.

His only solution is to be more evil and craven and depraved in handling people seeking legal immigration to the US via asylum.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:59:20am

re: #193 Targetpractice

“And I am doing my damnedest to ensure he will remain in office another 4 years.”

he’s this close to saying ‘only i can fix it’

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:59:40am

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

AOC: Accurately points out the government forcibly drugged migrant children.

NRATV: “That is an insane comment … She’s lying to all of you on purpose … She ought to go back and get a job at IKEA instead of Congress.”mm4a.org

This really tells you how effective she is. Good on her.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:02:27am

re: #194 Scottish Dragon

Presidents have plenary power to assign security clearances to anyone they wish totally legal and constitutional. Dems desperate to distroy Trump to avoid jail for Treason, among other things, before he Drains The Swamp they play in!

no one (sane) disputes this.

the question, which does need to be answered is why, they were still granted after contra-indicated by the normal vetting process

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:03:01am
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:03:18am

re: #195 MsJ

Sure it would. Trump’s tell all would be comedy gold.

i meant the 10 foot pole…

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:06:31am

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

Their tax returns are so complicated it takes a team of real experts time to decipher what they’ve done. With the GOP in power, we are increasingly living in a feudal state where as Leona Helmsley said : “We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.”

Estate taxes need to be increased, though not to their original punitive level.

The GOP has hamstrung IRS enforcement, culling their ranks so that they don’t have the ability to conduct audits as frequently as they did in prior years.

0.5% of all returns got flagged for some form of audit/examination in FY 2017. Returns with AGI over 10 million saw 15% flagged for examination, while those making under $25k were flagged in under 1% of the cases.

In more than a few cases for lower income levels, the issues are discovered by matching W2 and 1099/1098 forms reported by financial institutions and employers with the income being reported by the taxpayer. Mismatches can result in corrective actions.

But with the superwealthy, most of their income comes from other sources and it’s easier to obscure the income.

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:11:47am

re: #210 Scottish Dragon

The stuff in the maga accomplishments site has some amazing bullshit. And some that they consider accomplishments are national security disasters.

maga morons. Every last one.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:15:54am

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

Their tax returns are so complicated it takes a team of real experts time to decipher what they’ve done. With the GOP in power, we are increasingly living in a feudal state where as Leona Helmsley said : “We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.”

Estate taxes need to be increased, though not to their original punitive level.

we’re talking in generalizations here of course

- oh yes, they may be voluminous and require a lot of time to sift through - especially with pass through entities
- and they are not always the kind that matching programs will be effective on

- though i’d guess quite a lot of high end returns are not all that complicated.

- the actual tax issues, unless you’re in the fringes or taking a weird position, are not that hard for a reasonably well versed agent or cpa to understand

what is likely not happening is the allocation of time for a detailed look at the pass through entities. that’s where the stuff gets buried.

and the demand for documentation - prove it or lose it. look how easily trump manufactured likely fake contributions to his own foundation. all it took was some digging.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:18:29am

re: #214 Man, DangerMan

- the actual tax issues, unless you’re in the fringes or taking a weird position, are not that hard for a reasonably well versed agent or cpa to understand

what is likely not happening is the allocation of time for a detailed look at the pass through entities. that’s where the stuff gets buried.

especially when these “entities” are closely connected to figures closely connected to the Russian government

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darthstar  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:19:57am

Holsitic vet said to up Banjo’s CBD dosage for the first few weeks to help with inflammation then taper down to lowest necessary dose. Now it really is, as I call it, his CBDoobie.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:21:48am
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:22:45am

re: #217 lawhawk

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yeah. I’m a hard pass on that.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:24:36am

Joe…what the serious hell are you doing??

My God.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:26:20am
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:26:53am

Biden turned the unwanted touching/hair sniffing thing into a joke, with kids as props.

I think I’m done with him now. Jesus.

Violating women’s space is a punch line for laughs.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:27:57am

re: #220 lawhawk

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California as well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:28:21am

Re: Trump voters

Why the hell should we feel inclined to reach out to people who don’t give a shit about us?

There is NO dialogue and NO progress to made with these people.

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darthstar  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:29:07am

re: #219 Scottish Dragon

Joe…what the serious hell are you doing??

My God.

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He’s pulling the scab off of a hyped up scandal. Biden explained himself afterward. He’s going to keep hugging people because people want to hug him. He’s also apologized if anyone feels his hugs in the past made them uncomfortable.

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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:33:37am

re: #224 darthstar

He’s pulling the scab off of a hyped up scandal. Biden explained himself afterward. He’s going to keep hugging people because people want to hug him. He’s also apologized if anyone feels his hugs in the past made them uncomfortable.

Regardless, it’s not a good look at all…just real shitty optics.

It seems that Biden’s time as Obama’s VP was the exception to the rule for him, because he’s not acting like someone who should be POTUS with this shit.

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mmmirele  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:36:14am

Sharing the Lil Nas X / Billy Ray Cyrus “Old Town Road” remix link.

Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (feat. Billy Ray Cyrus) [Remix]

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wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:36:35am

re: #221 Scottish Dragon

Biden turned the unwanted touching/hair sniffing thing into a joke, with kids as props.

I think I’m done with him now. Jesus.

Violating women’s space is a punch line for laughs.

He said he would listen and learn. Didn’t work. Needs to try harder.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:39:35am
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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:44:37am
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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:45:07am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:46:50am

Miller such a racist asshole. I can see why Trump loves him.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:46:57am

Things Stacey Abrams and Pete Buttigieg get that most other pols don’t

Jennifer Rubin, and a good read whether you are not happy with some of the things Buttigieg is saying or not.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:47:37am

Start calling him De facto President Stephen Miller and see how long he lasts.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:51:43am

Trump’s back to attacking the press again. Still more attacks on the 1A and violating his oath.

Why?

Because Trump’s an angry little egotistical know nothing who cares only about gaslighting to stay in power and keep his followers engaged/enraged. He knows the press keeps digging into his criminal conduct and finding all kinds of wrong doing.

He’s hoping his supporters can do something to stop it.

And what’s that? Stochastic terrorism.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:52:44am
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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:53:10am

re: #217 lawhawk

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I’ll save Pete some time: They’re not that into you. Oh yes, they’ll say that you’re a “voice of moderation,” say that you’re somebody they might think of voting for if you were the nominee, they’ll use you and your words to smack around your opponents, but they’re never going to vote for you. Why? Because the moment you become the nominee, you will suddenly become a “radical” who is simply “too far left” for them to ever consider supporting. It happened to John Kerry, it will happen to you.

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:54:06am

re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg

Miller such a racist asshole. I can see why Trump loves him.

And he’s pretty much running the show in re immigration. That’s pretty fucked up.

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:55:21am

re: #233 jaunte

Start calling him De facto President Stephen Miller and see how long he lasts.

Hey, it worked for Bannon.

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:57:49am

re: #237 makeitstop

And he’s pretty much running the show in re immigration. That’s pretty fucked up.

With Kris Kobach about to jump into the frey.

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wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2019 • 10:59:24am
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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:00:49am

re: #240 wrenchwench

Strategy to attract the wavering “anti-political-correctness” Trump voters?

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wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:02:29am

re: #241 jaunte

Strategy to attract the wavering “anti-political-correctness” Trump voters?

Somebody has to go after the old white men voters. Otherwise, Trump gets them all again.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:03:30am

re: #224 darthstar

He’s pulling the scab off of a hyped up scandal. Biden explained himself afterward. He’s going to keep hugging people because people want to hug him. He’s also apologized if anyone feels his hugs in the past made them uncomfortable.

Looks real bad.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:04:28am

I love this but the physics of the dam worry me.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:07:20am

re: #244 jaunte

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I love this but the physics of the dam worry me.

Damn knowledge!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:08:00am

Has anyone seen or heard from Happy Warrior in the last few days? I haven’t seen him and I was adding my family tree on myheritage.com I was thinking of him.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:08:30am
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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:08:59am
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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:11:04am
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:14:00am

re: #249 lawhawk

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Damn….

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:16:46am

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Re: Trump voters

Why the hell should we feel inclined to reach out to people who don’t give a shit about us?

There is NO dialogue and NO progress to made with these people.

re: #232 retired cynic

Well, while this is certainly true for the hardcore Trump “base” (invincibly armored in self-righteous ignorance) that base is (AFAICT, and fervently hope) far from a majority in the country as a whole. And if one thinks about what should be the principal goal of the 2020 General Election - i.e. getting the fuck rid of Donald Trump and as many other Republicans as possible - the target electorate is likely to be at the fringes of The Donald’s 2016 margins: i.e. voters who are going to be disappointed/disgusted with the current Administration, and who will be susceptible to a campaign message from an “acceptable” Democrat. Not just nominal “Republicans”, but also members of the largest political bloc, the Apathetics. And, IMO, harping on the racism/nativism/general prejudice of the Trump Admin and its supporters - however accurate that assessment might be, isn’t a winning strategy. If only because it can be (and probably will be) spun as mere insult from sneery “elitists”. Buttigieg is wrong, IMO, in trying to cast “economic anxiety” as the sole mover of pro-Trump sentiments, but it IS an actual factor: the key, I think, is going to be making sure the public knows/feels that Trump and his incompetent gang’s policies aren’t going to fix it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:20:35am

re: #227 wrenchwench

He said he would listen and learn. Didn’t work. Needs to try harder.

I may be way wrong, but that comes off to me like Joe B. is making a mockery of the issue.

I have a feeling that won’t work well with women.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:21:32am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

Has anyone seen or heard from Happy Warrior in the last few days? I haven’t seen him and I was adding my family tree on myheritage.com I was thinking of him.

He said he was going to take a short break.

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Old Liberal  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:21:43am

re: #217 lawhawk

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Doesn’t empathy mean being able to put yourself in their shoes and feel their feelings? I’m sorry but the hardships I faced and the unwanted changes I’ve survived did not make me want to hurt other people. sorry but there is no way for any decent human being to have empathy for them.

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steve_davis  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:23:35am

re: #15 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

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“We’re sorry we blew your premiere up with that tactical nuke. we were trying to take out an Iranian runway, but some fucker must have been screwing around with the gps satellites.”

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:25:42am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

Has anyone seen or heard from Happy Warrior in the last few days? I haven’t seen him and I was adding my family tree on myheritage.com I was thinking of him.

He’s taking time away from politics. He said that a day or so after the Mueller Report came out.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:26:20am

re: #255 steve_davis

“We’re sorry we blew your premiere up with that tactical nuke. we were trying to take out an Iranian runway, but some fucker must have been screwing around with the gps satellites.”

With the distances involved in the Middle East, futzing with the GPS coordinates could mean instead of hitting Tehran, you’re hitting Baghdad instead. Or Tel Aviv. Or Amman. Or Kirkuk.

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:26:33am

re: #240 wrenchwench

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First treating the accusations like a joke, then saying he’s not sorry. I accept that Joe is an old-school kinda guy who likes to be touchy-feely…but this is just all sorts of tone-deaf.

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Old Liberal  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:28:30am

re: #258 Targetpractice

First treating the accusations like a joke, then saying he’s not sorry. I accept that Joe is an old-school kinda guy who likes to be touchy-feely…but this is just all sorts of tone-deaf.

Maybe it’s the new political reality. Never admit never apologize. Seems to appeal to a large number of Americans nowadays. Unfortunately not just the magats

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jeffreyw  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:32:47am

re: #167 Eventual Carrion

Hey, how did my cat Bunny get there!

That’s Bea, or as we often call her , Beavis. Her bro is, of course, Butthead.

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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:33:57am

re: #255 steve_davis

“We’re sorry we blew your premiere up with that tactical nuke. we were trying to take out an Iranian runway, but some fucker must have been screwing around with the gps satellites.”

re: #255 steve_davis

“We’re sorry we blew your premiere up with that tactical nuke. we were trying to take out an Iranian runway, but some fucker must have been screwing around with the gps satellites.”

Or #MH17 with a twist - GPS jamming causes a passenger liner to fly over protected airspace and get shot down.

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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:35:29am

re: #261 Teukka

Or #MH17 with a twist - GPS jamming causes a passenger liner to fly over protected airspace and get shot down.

That the jamming was discovered in northern Scandinavia was for the most part because the participants of the exercise had ECCM as one of the training points.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:36:33am

oh, not the union ones

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:37:15am

MAGNIFICENCE!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:38:11am

Almost 400 miles of Wall…count ‘em, losers!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:40:38am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:41:22am
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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:42:18am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Weisselberg?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:46:47am

re: #258 Targetpractice

First treating the accusations like a joke, then saying he’s not sorry. I accept that Joe is an old-school kinda guy who likes to be touchy-feely…but this is just all sorts of tone-deaf.

im gonna disagree
he has an impeccable reputation as a loving family man. He is defending himself.
this seems pretty clear to me:

“The fact of the matter is I made it clear that if I made anyone feel [uncomfortable], I feel badly about that. It was never my intention. Ever.”

“I’m sorry I didn’t understand more. I’m not sorry for any of my intentions. I’m not sorry for anything that I have ever done. I have never been disrespectful intentionally to a man or a woman. So that’s not the reputation I’ve had since I was in high school, for God’s sakes.”

This is not a sexual assault/harassment issue, but a respecting personal space issue. He already said he’ll do that in the future. What does he need to apologize for other than not recognizing some people are more sensitive to personal space than others?

it’s a faux ‘scandal’ (really worth an op-ed?) and we’re all aiding and abetting it. we’re nuancing this nonsense to death while there’s a grand scale of corruption and evil going on in Washington led by a self-admitted, in fact boastful pu$$y-grabber

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:47:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:48:49am

re: #247 lawhawk

Supreme Court rejects gun rights advocates over bump stocks

If anything says “well-regulated militia” it is unrestricted access to bump stocks…

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gocart mozart  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:49:07am
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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:49:47am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:52:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:53:08am
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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:54:19am

re: #171 Scottish Dragon

Wingnut porn. That’s where I stopped reading Clancy.

At least Clancy kept up some standards for other parts of his books, even as their theme became wingnut wonderworld.

As far as I know, the all time worst descent of a series of books from good to wretched political allegory is the sword of truth series by Terry Goodkind.

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:55:00am

re: #269 Man, DangerMan

im gonna disagree
he has an impeccable reputation as a loving family man. He is defending himself.
this seems pretty clear to me:

This is not a sexual assault/harassment issue, but a respecting personal space issue. He already said he’ll do that in the future. What does he need to apologize for other than not recognizing some people are more sensitive to personal space than others?

it’s a faux ‘scandal’ (really worth an op-ed?) and we’re all aiding and abetting it. we’re nuancing this nonsense to death while there’s a grand scale of corruption and evil going on in Washington led by a self-admitted, in fact boastful pu$$y-grabber

Why are we nuancing it? This is why:

“I know what it feels like to have things written about you, things said about you that are not true,” said Trump. “There’s very little accountability these days, with social media on a lot of networks and a lot of news outlets.”

“I don’t know Joe Biden personally, I’ve never met him, I don’t really know his character, but he’s been in the public eye, Sandra, for so long, that for all of a sudden, the timing of this, it just seems very convenient,” she went on. “If I were already in the race for the 2020 Democrat nomination, I probably would not like to run against Joe Biden, so who knows why this came up now?”

“I know what it’s like, and our family knows what it’s like better than anyone, to have things said about you and you be accused of things, and maybe it’s not the full truth,” Trump repeated.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:56:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:58:34am

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Re: Trump voters

Why the hell should we feel inclined to reach out to people who don’t give a shit about us?

There is NO dialogue and NO progress to made with these people.

Having empathy for them is one thing, not hating them is another, but there are a lot of Trump voters who are feeling buyer’s regret about now

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 11:59:17am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Admin official slams House Dem demands for Trump’s tax returns: “This is a hill and people would be willing to die on it… we will see you in court.”

this is black letter law. prepare to die.

- the “Administration” has got nothing to do with this
- nor does ‘the president’ have any latitude or authority
- nor does ‘citizen trump’

it’s crystal clear:

the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request

further he wasnt president for all those years so they arent even all “the president’s” tax returns
and in any event, the admin can’t be defending / arguing for a private citizen

the only issue is whether the committee must be in closed session or not because the individual taxpayer can be identified

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:01:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:08:21pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:09:12pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:11:28pm

re: #281 jaunte

Michael Cohen says he’s found an old hard drive with 14 million files of potentially damaging evidence on Trump.

if this didnt turn up in the searches, then it sure was hidden, er misplaced well.
probably in a safe deposit box somewhere.

14 million files on one guy?
my office has been paperless for 15 years. if we took every single pdf and separated each individual page into it’s own file i wonder if we would even come close to that number

then again, if he’s got the goods, what do i care?

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Mike Lamb  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:12:44pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

MAGNIFICENCE!!!

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Really important rhetorical shift here. For a long time, he paid lip service to the notion that only the “FAKE NEWS” was the “enemy of the people”. He drops all pretense with that tweet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:16:17pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:17:12pm

re: #285 Mike Lamb

Really important rhetorical shift here. For a long time, he paid lip service to the notion that only the “FAKE NEWS” was the “enemy of the people”. He drops all pretense with that tweet.

this part is true:

…this Administration has done more than virtually any other Administration in its first 2yrs

just not the way he means

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:18:35pm

re: #285 Mike Lamb

Really important rhetorical shift here. For a long time, he paid lip service to the notion that only the “FAKE NEWS” was the “enemy of the people”. He drops all pretense with that tweet.

He defines “FAKE NEWS” as anything that is unflattering or critical of him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:21:20pm
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:22:20pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:22:42pm

re: #277 Targetpractice

Why are we nuancing it? This is why:

…”and maybe it’s not the full truth.”

Think about that answer from Lara Trump.

Maybe. Not. Full.

Hmmmm. Dodgy wording you can drive a truck through.

Maybe some of it is true!

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:22:48pm

re: #284 Man, DangerMan

“…Obviously it will take more than a month for Cohen to look through all those docs and see which ones have Trump crimes in them, so he’s gonna need to stay at home and do that in the jacuzzi. (Indeed, the letter says so far he’s only been able to go through “less than 1 percent of the drive,” so according to our back of the napkin math calculations, it’s going to take him INFINITY MINUTES to look at the whole thing.)”
wonkette.com

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gocart mozart  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:22:52pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:26:27pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:28:40pm

re: #276 EPR-radar

At least Clancy kept up some standards for other parts of his books, even as their theme became wingnut wonderworld.

As far as I know, the all time worst descent of a series of books from good to wretched political allegory is the sword of truth series by Terry Goodkind.

Though that series started wretched in certain ways. It just descended into way overboard with extra preachiness very quickly.

For Clancy I’d say the early novels are the best reads:
Hunt For Red October, Red Storm Rising, and Cardinal of the Kremlin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:28:59pm

re: #241 jaunte

Strategy to attract the wavering “anti-political-correctness” Trump voters?

No, being realistic, some of those things might have been inappropriate but nothing that rises to the level of sexual harassment. But that will not prevent the party led by Pussy Grabber-in-Chief to make as big an issue of it as possible.

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:30:15pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:31:44pm

re: #284 Man, DangerMan

if this didnt turn up in the searches, then it sure was hidden, er misplaced well.
probably in a safe deposit box somewhere.

14 million files on one guy?
my office has been paperless for 15 years. if we took every single pdf and separated each individual page into it’s own file i wonder if we would even come close to that number

then again, if he’s got the goods, what do i care?

Might say how many little business rackets he had going on that Cohen had some control of as lawyer. Who knows how much funny paper there is for this deal or that.

Might say how many people he had to pay off too. There was all the under the table stuff, and paying off codes guys, inspectors, politicians, boards, council, judges, etc.

Seems Cohen was a meticulous record keeper. Maybe he knew he needed it all for when the shit hit the fan.

There is a lot of Trump we do not know. We may be finding out soon.

Michael Cohen seems like he has it out for Trump now. Donny is going to regret that change of fortune.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:32:15pm
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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:32:21pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:33:34pm

re: #300 jaunte

Donald Trump has Civil War plaque at his golf course commemorating battle that never happened

“River of Blood”?

Or is he commemorating the Enoch Powell speech?

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:35:04pm

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Donnie loves plaques.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:36:22pm

re: #302 jaunte

Donnie loves plaques.

Ever since he got one for participation in basket weaving at summer camp.

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:36:26pm

re: #278 Scottish Dragon

To be fair, I’m not sure, IIRC, that when I was in school that I could rattle off events that had happened half a century earlier.

At best, in school, all I knew about history was the very highest level landscape of what had happened in American history and perhaps a little bit of world history.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:37:33pm

re: #287 Man, DangerMan

this part is true:

just not the way he means

He means it.

For the big business types Trump has done a lot. He’s cut EPA, OHSA, FDA, etc., and all of that is good for the bottom line, and gets rid of all that messy paper work and unnecessary staff. Just one area Trump has benefited business.

Throw in the tax cuts and probably the hope for having to pay less for insurance and who knows what else, and Trump has done a ton.

For Them($)

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Mike Lamb  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:37:45pm

re: #288 The Vicious Babushka

He defines “FAKE NEWS” as anything that is unflattering or critical of him.

I get that…but to drop “FAKE NEWS” for “press” is a dangerous thing.

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:42:07pm

re: #299 jaunte

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So is that plaque placed just anywhere? Or where its use as an open-air urinal will be most-noticed?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:43:10pm

re: #306 Mike Lamb

I get that…but to drop “FAKE NEWS” for “press” is a dangerous thing.

Are you suggesting Trump isn’t dangerous??

/

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:44:35pm

One has to wonder how much of teh stoopid is a gimmick:

Fox News and Right-Wing Grifters Had Banner Weeks for Alarmingly Stupid Ideas

Diamond and Silk told Fox News viewers that climate change is real—but the result of the earth rotating.

Fox’s Diamond and Silk: “With the Earth rotating at 1,000 miles per hour, OK, 365 days of the year, we subject to feel climate changing a little bit”

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:44:36pm

re: #307 Jay C

It’s a magic plaque. Notice the complete absence of caravans in the vicinity.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:45:17pm

re: #293 gocart mozart

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That was nice.

Miley has some talent, it just comes down to what she wants to do and be.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:46:05pm

re: #309 freetoken

One has to wonder how much of teh stoopid is a gimmick:

Fox News and Right-Wing Grifters Had Banner Weeks for Alarmingly Stupid Ideas

Fox’s Diamond and Silk: “With the Earth rotating at 1,000 miles per hour, OK, 365 days of the year, we subject to feel climate changing a little bit”

I think this nonsense about the earth being round and rotating is just an elitist notion foisted on us by the Soros-funded scientific establishment…

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Skip Intro  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:46:46pm

re: #309 freetoken

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:47:53pm

re: #293 gocart mozart

I heard that Miley C cover of “You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome” some years ago and was dead impressed.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:49:28pm

re: #302 jaunte

Donnie loves plaques.

I wanna see the one after he is gone that says Worst President in U.S. History. He’s got that one coming.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:50:10pm

re: #315 ObserverArt

How long does a urinal cake last?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:52:46pm

re: #316 jaunte

How long does a urinal cake last?

depends on how many people are eating it…

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:54:02pm

re: #316 jaunte

How long does a urinal cake last?

That’s why this needs to be a business. Get Trump urinal cakes into more restrooms than we have bibles in motel rooms.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:54:55pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:55:55pm

Yeah, Metro just issued a service alert that His Ass Holeyness is in West LA…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 5, 2019 • 12:56:21pm

re: #280 Man, DangerMan

this is black letter law. prepare to die.

Upding for Princess Bride reference.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:01:17pm

I’m shocked to find people in California don’t like Trump.

///

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:01:21pm

re: #300 jaunte

And he got into trouble for chopping down trees to create that vista too.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:02:42pm

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Enoch Powell

Or Enoch Arden…

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:04:01pm

re: #320 Joe Bacon 🌹

Isn’t there a trump tweet about Obama causing traffic problems in L.A. while visiting?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:04:21pm

re: #298 ObserverArt

Might say how many little business rackets he had going on that Cohen had some control of as lawyer. Who knows how much funny paper there is for this deal or that.

Might say how many people he had to pay off too. There was all the under the table stuff, and paying off codes guys, inspectors, politicians, boards, council, judges, etc.

Seems Cohen was a meticulous record keeper. Maybe he knew he needed it all for when the shit hit the fan.

There is a lot of Trump we do not know. We may be finding out soon.

Michael Cohen seems like he has it out for Trump now. Donny is going to regret that change of fortune.

different from nixon’s tapes. i hope just as devastating

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:04:24pm

re: #324 Eric The Fruit Bat

Or Enoch Arden…

Enoch it off already

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:04:59pm

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

depends on how many people are eating it…

I was trying to put together a joke involving urinal cakes, yellow cake mix, Yellowcake, and the fact that it contains Uranyl compounds, but it had too many moving parts and I couldn’t bring it home.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:05:30pm

re: #327 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Enoch it off already

Enoch is Enoch.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:06:11pm

re: #326 Man, DangerMan

different from nixon’s tapes. i hope just as devastating

“Is you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:06:49pm

Cripes, haven’t been here in days and everyone runs off when I show up.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:09:41pm

Just heard about this on Nicole Wallace’s show.

I haven’t finished reading it myself.

The Atlantic - ‘Dozens’ of Whistle-Blowers Are Secretly Cooperating With House Democrats

Tricia Newbold set an important mark when she became the first official currently serving in Donald Trump’s White House to take accusations of wrongdoing to Congress—and to put her name publicly behind them.

But Democrats on Capitol Hill say that beyond Newbold, a small army of whistle-blowers from across the government has been working in secret with the House Oversight Committee to report alleged malfeasance inside the Trump administration. Lawmakers and aides are reluctant to discuss information they have gleaned from anonymous government tipsters in detail. But the list of whistle-blowers who either currently or previously worked in the Trump administration, or who worked closely with the administration, numbers in the “dozens,” according to a senior aide from the committee now led by Democratic Representative Elijah Cummings of Maryland.

…more at link…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:19:08pm

re: #332 ObserverArt

But Democrats on Capitol Hill say that beyond Newbold, a small army of whistle-blowers from across the government has been working in secret with the House Oversight Committee to report alleged malfeasance inside the Trump administration.

Whistle blowers tend to find out that at the end of the day they wind up in prison (at worse) or like Thomas Drake at some point when Uncle Sam decides that they made their administration look bad/inept.

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:19:42pm

Your obscure English word to mainstream next time Trump and his minions rambles on:

gallimaufry

a motley assortment of things

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:21:29pm

re: #293 gocart mozart

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Baez—Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts

JOAN BAEZ ~ Lily, Rosemary And The Jack Of Hearts ~

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:30:33pm

I guess everybody took 9 minutes to listen to Joan…

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:31:35pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:33:08pm

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

Enoch is Enoch.

What about his bastard sons?

The Bastard Sons of Enoch

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:35:19pm

re: #337 Patricia Kayden

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:36:45pm

re: #332 ObserverArt

Well, that is reassuring to hear although it appears that Trump is getting away with a whole lot despite his obvious misconduct. Hopefully, that will change very soon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:37:20pm

re: #337 Patricia Kayden

I wasn’t aware the U.S. border had a maximum capacity listed.

Also, JFC:

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:37:41pm

re: #337 Patricia Kayden

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Our country is full. Our area is full.

Send them to Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota and South Dakota—population density per sq. mi, respectively—1, 6, 7, 10 and 11.

Problem solved!

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:40:50pm

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

Wouldn’t putting doors in a wall defeat its purpose? The man’s thinking is so bizarre. It’s hard to believe that he’s a grown man and not a spoiled child.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:42:14pm

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

” They read what lawyers tell them to read…they say, ‘I fear for my life.’ They’re the ones causing fear for life. It’s a scam”

Wait - is he talking about asylum seekers, or cops who shoot unarmed black people?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:43:22pm

re: #343 Patricia Kayden

Wouldn’t putting doors in a wall defeat its purpose? The man’s thinking is so bizarre. It’s hard to believe that he’s a grown man and not a spoiled child.

(insert why not both meme here)

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:44:09pm

re: #342 BeachDem

Our country is full. Our area is full.

Send them to Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota and South Dakota—population density per sq. mi, respectively—1, 6, 7, 10 and 11.

Problem solved!

No… what Trump means is that the white guys have decided that they can’t take any more nonwhites coming here, so go away.

The states you’ve suggested are among the highest in white demographics, so would be least interested in taking in nonwhites seeking asylum.

Heck, Texas has a population density of 104 people per square mile. Some counties have less than 1 person per square mile in Texas. That compares with NJ, which has a population density of… 1,200 per square mile.

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:44:38pm

So is the United States’ official policy regarding (apparently any) immigration going to be, basically, putting up a “NO VACANCY” sign?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:45:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:46:39pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:46:44pm

re: #347 Jay C

So is the United States’ official policy regarding (apparently any) immigration going to be, basically, putting up a “NO VACANCY” sign?

Real answer: it depends.

Get the color chart out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:47:51pm

nope…cat boxes need cleaning…

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:48:16pm

re: #346 lawhawk

No… what Trump means is that the white guys have decided that they can’t take any more nonwhites coming here, so go away.

The states you’ve suggested are among the highest in white demographics, so would be least interested in taking in nonwhites seeking asylum.

Heck, Texas has a population density of 104 people per square mile. Some counties have less than 1 person per square mile in Texas. That compares with NJ, which has a population density of… 1,200 per square mile.

I was just trying to solve his stated problem.//

Hey, DC has a population density of 11,011 per square mile—sounds too crowded for the Yam—perhaps he should leave.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:49:18pm
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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:49:36pm

re: #352 BeachDem

I was just trying to solve his stated problem.//

Hey, DC has a population density of 11,011 per square mile—sounds too crowded for the Yam—perhaps he should leave.

He’s spending 1/4 of his time at his businesses. And nearly as much time golfing.

That way anyone who wants to pay the cover charge can have access to him. Anyone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:49:46pm

I’m having one of those irritating discussions with a friend on FB. You know the one, where you talk about the fact that Trump has a hard core of supporters for whom there is nothing that Trump could do to lose their support, and who not only accept his racism, ignorance, lying, and bullying but actually LOVE him for it, and your friend says, “You thinking that is why Trump won”?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:50:01pm

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

(insert why not both meme here)

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:50:07pm

re: #346 lawhawk

No… what Trump means is that the white guys have decided that they can’t take any more nonwhites coming here, so go away.

The states you’ve suggested are among the highest in white demographics, so would be least interested in taking in nonwhites seeking asylum.

Heck, Texas has a population density of 104 people per square mile. Some counties have less than 1 person per square mile in Texas. That compares with NJ, which has a population density of… 1,200 per square mile.

I live in Manhattan (not KS) - which has a population density just short of 73,000 per square mile, and I think there would still be room for some more immigrants here (if they’re not here already).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:50:26pm

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

nope…cat boxes need cleaning…

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Uh, that table is not round…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:51:18pm

I can also vouch that Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi have plenty of space.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:52:10pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He won the election (so he can do anything he damn well wants…get off his back, we Republicans like Trump, get over it)!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:52:27pm

re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg

Uh, that table is not round…

Yeah, but “Panel Discussion” sounds so much more elitist than “Round Table”
/ (only 1/2)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:54:30pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 1:56:47pm

re: #299 jaunte

“The plaque, installed more than six months ago when the work was completed, refers to the 2.25-mile-long barrier as the the first section of President Trump’s border wall.’…the project had been planned for years before Trump took office.”

the best thing that could happen is that no more ‘wall’ is built and that plaque stays stuck there on that 2.25 mile long renovation of existing barrier forever

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:05:34pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump lawyers say there must be legislative purpose to get tax returns. This is bad lawyering. Any first-year law student can come up with possible bills that would benefit from seeing Trump’s returns

they’re going about this the wrong way and they’re gonna lose
no ‘purpose’ or ‘intent’ is necessary for two reasons.

- while the 1924 black letter law is plain as day (shall furnish on request), it gets worse

- guess who ‘owns’ all filed tax returns. Yup, they are government documents. as such can not be denied to congress for review under their oversight powers.

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mmmirele  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:14:52pm

re: #363 Man, DangerMan

the best thing that could happen is that no more ‘wall’ is built and that plaque stays stuck there on that 2.25 mile long renovation of existing barrier forever

I wonder how long that plaque stays there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:15:08pm

re: #363 Man, DangerMan

the best thing that could happen is that no more ‘wall’ is built and that plaque stays stuck there on that 2.25 mile long renovation of existing barrier forever

and that somebody then adds a plaque explaining that his plaque is crap

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:16:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:18:17pm

re: #364 Man, DangerMan

they’re going about this the wrong way and they’re gonna lose
no ‘purpose’ or ‘intent’ is necessary for two reasons.

- while the 1924 black letter law is plain as day (shall furnish on request), it gets worse

- guess who ‘owns’ all filed tax returns. Yup, they are government documents. as such can not be denied to congress for review under their oversight powers.

And like I said yesterday they already have a baked in legitimate legislative purpose for demanding the returns. When Trump was pushing the GOP tax cuts he publicly stated that he personally was going to be a big loser under it and that the law was going to make his taxes go up. All the Dems need to say is that they want to repeal that tax cut and need to know if Trump was lying to the American people in order to secure a financial benefit for himself.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:22:31pm

re: #364 Man, DangerMan

they’re going about this the wrong way and they’re gonna lose
no ‘purpose’ or ‘intent’ is necessary for two reasons.

- while the 1924 black letter law is plain as day (shall furnish on request), it gets worse

- guess who ‘owns’ all filed tax returns. Yup, they are government documents. as such can not be denied to congress for review under their oversight powers.

Yup…this is destined to fail…badly. It will be interesting to see if they can find a judge that is willing to completely ignore black letter law.

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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:22:59pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:23:56pm

re: #369 Mike Lamb

Yup…this is destined to fail…badly. It will be interesting to see if they can find a judge that is willing to completely ignore black letter law.

Trump is packing the court with enough judges to allow him to keep hiding those tax returns.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:24:31pm

re: #370 Teukka

so was Charlie Chaplin!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:24:57pm

Sometimes the strategy is not to win, but to delay losing as long as possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:25:43pm

re: #373 Eclectic Cyborg

Sometimes the strategy is not to win, but to delay losing as long as possible.

Right now, it is to buy time to destroy as much evidence and hide as many assets as possible…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:25:47pm

re: #371 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump is packing the court with enough judges to allow him to keep hiding those tax returns.

And it could happen too. We may never see those damn things.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:35:38pm

re: #371 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump is packing the court with enough judges to allow him to keep hiding those tax returns.

There are enough liberals on SCOTUS that it would at least get cert if the lower courts somehow found in favor of Trump. And I can’t imagine Roberts would so blatantly ignore black letter law.

Also provides a pretty stark view point as to how the Admin views the gov’t’s number goal as being to protect Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:36:19pm
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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:42:53pm

So, something to think about: while my interest in lotteries may be some late-age quirk of my mostly-forgotten mathematics classes, there is a movement about which you may need to know and which gets too little coverage.

Among the movers and shakers in entertainment, there is a move to make gambling more widely legal. There is interest in sports betting being legal (like in many places, e.g., the UK). The usual billionaires are involved, because they will be the ones setting up the gambling corporations.

And they will make billions more.

So if you are anti-gambling (and I think there is much to worry about in regards to gambling addiction and such), it might be something that you will be concerned about.

Even if you aren’t anti-gambling, many of your least favorite people will be much richer and because they will be involved in politics that means more marginal-to-society activities will be part of the pay-to-play scheme into which our society is falling.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:50:41pm
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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:51:35pm

re: #219 Scottish Dragon

Joe…what the serious hell are you doing??

My God.

[Embedded content]

Well, that lasted a day. Shorter than I thought it would take. *sigh*

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:52:56pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2019 • 2:53:26pm

re: #379 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

Holy Captain Picard, make it so!

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BlueGrl21  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:02:13pm

Kurt Cobain and I were born on the same day of the same year and we were/are both bipolar. At the time of his death people were still trying to tell me i had an, “artistic temperament” and nothing was really wrong with me. Nirvana’s music reflected what was going on in my head and so did Kurt Cobain. As cliched as it is, I was devastated when he died.

Took 5 more years for me to be properly diagnosed and i got pumped full of anti-psychotics and Lithium, quickly. I was never suicidal but damn, I understand how people get there. Lithium saved my life, but it’s a bitch of a medication.

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:04:04pm

I wish it was this easy, I really do:

I’m pretty sure that doesn’t work. Many have tried and it just doesn’t work. It just doesn’t.

Now there might (meaning remote chance) be that the lottery balls come out not at random but under the influence of one or more beings. Certainly many of the state lotteries pretend so, as their webpages are full about “believing”.

So I wonder if everyone played the same numbers, as in exact same tickets, and everyone believed the draw would happen as such, if indeed that draw would end up being what the mass hoped?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:06:03pm

Delightful! I didn’t see this.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:06:42pm

re: #383 BlueGrl21

“At this point I have a request for our fans. If any of you in any way hate homosexuals, people of different color, or women, please do this one favor for us — leave us the fuck alone! Don’t come to our shows and don’t buy our records.” -Incesticide liner notes

rollingstone.com

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:09:46pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:11:35pm

re: #381 freetoken

What documentary is he talking about??

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:14:31pm

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:15:44pm

re: #388 Eclectic Cyborg

What documentary is he talking about??

Not sure, but since it references Netflix, it would be the one of hers that is on Netflix (I forget the name of it, but I’ve seen it.) She is well known for exploring the polytheistic origins of Yahweh god of the southwest extremes of the Levant.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:16:32pm

re: #374 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Right now, it is to buy time to destroy as much evidence and hide as many assets as possible…

If he really has any. He may be a complete fake billionaire and his tax forms will prove it.

And, the Russians own Trump Tower and they just let Donny stay there!

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:18:05pm

Being old, I never knew who Cobain was, never listened to his music, still can’t name one of his recordings. I know that must make me old and out of touch. It’s one of those things - the world is big and we all come from different times and places.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:21:03pm

re: #393 freetoken

Being old, I never knew who Cobain was, never listened to his music, still can’t name one of his recordings. I know that must make me old and out of touch. It’s one of those things - the world is big and we all come from different times and places.

The big one is “Smells Like Teen Spirit,” which is something of an anthem for Gen X.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:27:46pm

re: #393 freetoken

Being old, I never knew who Cobain was, never listened to his music, still can’t name one of his recordings. I know that must make me old and out of touch. It’s one of those things - the world is big and we all come from different times and places.

Listen to the unplugged album and you will appreciate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:28:13pm

Here is a letter written by one of the measles victims. YOU CAN GET MEASLES EVEN IF YOU WERE VACCINATED AS A CHILD BUT DID NOT RECEIVE A BOOSTER AS AN ADULT!

We have a terrible outbreak of measles in Detroit and want to help protect your city. PLEASE PLEASE take this crisis very seriously and use your platform to literally save lives. Measles in adults can cause pneumonia, blindness, deafness, heart disease and even death.

Three weeks ago we had a visitor with measles who traveled through Detroit. TWENTY people, ALL IMMUNIZED, caught it from that one individual! Without knowing, we all spread it and now we face a second even larger wave. It takes 7-12 days after initial exposure for the virus to take hold and become active (in some people). I was one of the people in the first wave of twenty and I gave it to my immunized wife and ten-year-old and they are a part of the new even larger wave. I started having symptoms two weeks ago and, although I’m recovered from measles, I still have residual effects that people don’t always consider: I am still VERY WEAK, have bronchitis, and my cornea was injured so my vision is very blurry. And I’m going crazy watching this horror play out. My Purim seuda consisted of weak tea and crackers, and I shudder to think of all those who had active viruses who went to megilla reading, Purim celebrations and distributed shalach manos.

WHAT YOU SHOULD DO
a) Those born from 1957-1985 should get re-tested for immunity and if need be re-immunized for measles. It takes about five minutes at your local health center or doctor’s office. (It wasn’t standard to get 2 MMR shots till 1985. Many born before then probably received only one and that is not enough, as the vaccine wasn’t perfected until the mid 70s.)
b) If you have ANY flu/virus symptoms, assume it’s measles until you rule that out (with a healthcare professional)! The contagion factor is what is overwhelming our city

FOUR FACTS
1) For the FOUR FIRST DAYS after the virus is active, a person might not know he/she is infected, and for the first THREE days, that person may feel relatively good and go out into the community. There lies the problem. Every building that person enters, wherever the person goes, he/she leaves the virus in the air for TWO HOURS.
2) Even people with full immunization have a 3% chance of getting it when exposed.
3) For the first four days, measles appears like a regular virus. Treat any virus symptom as measles until this is brought under control. .
4) People born before 1957 are presumed to have had measles and are immune but we had one case of a 65 year old man who got the measles too.

_____________________________

LAST NIGHT’S UPDATE:

I just spoke to the head nurse at the county health department. She said they anticipate the next wave will be much lighter because of mass immunization. 2000 immunizations were recently given in the Detroit frum community to persons born between 1957-85 before they had exposure.

That’s the value of education.

One person infected 20 uneducated. Those 20 hopefully will have less impact because of education and immunization.

Let’s get the word out and organize a mass global education and immunization program in every city coast to coast.

Let’s get into action to get every single person born between 1957-85 immunized before Pesach. The Orthodox community is particularly vulnerable because of frequent travel and Shul attendance. Everyone needs to be educated not to go to Shul or any public place if they have virus symptoms. (Aching or temperature). For the first four days, a person with measles will not know they have it but will be contagious and leave the virus airborne for two hours in any building they enter.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:29:41pm

re: #114 William Lewis

I was already living in L.A. when Kurt passed. Pretty soon after, there were people talking all these wild-ass rumors/theories that Courtney had either killed him or driven him to suicide. I asked why, then, wasn’t that in the press and why hadn’t she been arrested? CUZ EVERYONE IS SO SCARED OF HER!
So you’re telling me that every law enforcement agency up there and down here (where she was living) is so scared of Courtney that they are letting her get away with murder?
Didn’t get much of an answer to that…

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gocart mozart  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:31:17pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:34:04pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:35:17pm

re: #399 Patricia Kayden

::: eye roll :::

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:35:20pm

re: #398 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

[Raiders pedantry]

Paul was actually the keyboard player. The guitarist was Phil ‘Fang’ Volk.

[/Raiders pedantry]

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:39:05pm

re: #401 makeitstop

[Raiders pedantry]

Paul was actually the keyboard player. The guitarist was Phil ‘Fang’ Volk.

[/Raiders pedantry]

Didn’t he sometimes play a Vox Teardrop and maybe a Phantom guitar?

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BlueGrl21  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:39:10pm

re: #397 Jebediah, RBG

I was already living in L.A. when Kurt passed. Pretty soon after, there were people talking all these wild-ass rumors/theories that Courtney had either killed him or driven him to suicide. I asked why, then, wasn’t that in the press and why hadn’t she been arrested? CUZ EVERYONE IS SO SCARED OF HER!
So you’re telling me that every law enforcement agency up there and down here (where she was living) is so scared of Courtney that they are letting her get away with murder?
Didn’t get much of an answer to that…

Yeah, I have a friend who was a minor punk musician in Detroit at the time that was pushing that crap. He brought it up again a couple of years ago and I said, “Look, he was sick. He’d attempted suicide before she ever came along. He went off his lithium because he hated the side effects. If there is any “blame” here it’s his for going off his meds. No one “drove him to suicide.” No one killed him. He was sick and couldn’t get through it.”

I swear…

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:42:32pm

re: #402 ObserverArt

Didn’t he sometimes play a Vox Teardrop and maybe a Phantom guitar?

Yep. Often with the name ‘Fang’ spelled out on the back with tape.

I’d put Fang in the same class as Jim McCarty from the Detriot Wheels - two great rock guitarists who were laying down amazing solos years before Clapton and Hendrix.

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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:54:36pm

re: #385 Dave In Austin

Delightful! I didn’t see this.

[Embedded content]

Excellent! This is God’s blessing on today.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:04:13pm

re: #403 BlueGrl21

To me it feels pretty disrespectful of the deceased to ignore the real pain he was in in favor of dumb-ass theories. Yeah, I’m such a huge fan that I am going to trivialize both his life and his death so I can peddle this ridiculous theory - and for what? To be thought an idiot? Some people, I guess, need to be reminded that these artists whose work they enjoy are actual flesh and blood people with real flesh-and-blood people problems. They aren’t just images and sounds.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:37:11pm

re: #397 Jebediah, RBG

I was already living in L.A. when Kurt passed. Pretty soon after, there were people talking all these wild-ass rumors/theories that Courtney had either killed him or driven him to suicide. I asked why, then, wasn’t that in the press and why hadn’t she been arrested? CUZ EVERYONE IS SO SCARED OF HER!
So you’re telling me that every law enforcement agency up there and down here (where she was living) is so scared of Courtney that they are letting her get away with murder?
Didn’t get much of an answer to that…

Didn’t kill him - but she had been bugging the shit out of him. To be fair, he needed to go to the rehab in Venice that he eventually just broke out of. Then again, Courtney was a hot mess - she was holed up in the Peninsula Hotel (where a friend of mine was a security guard), and had shot up a mix of heroin and Valium, and had to be taken to the nearby Century City Hospital when that went wrong and she started convulsing.

They left behind a trashed hotel room and a whole bunch of cassette tapes of songs they had been working on together. I have one of the cassettes out in my garage. Wonder if anyone would want “Unreleased Kurt Cobain Demos”?


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