The Bob Cesca Podcast: Oranges

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Oranges — NSFW; The Goth Ninjas, Jody Hamilton and TRex David Ferguson are here; Biff Tannen; Every bombshell of that last 24 hours; Trump’s brain worms; Trump keeps saying oranges; Witchiepoo and HR Pufnstuf; Mueller’s investigators contradict Bill Barr’s memo; The Mueller report apparently contains detailed accounts of Trump campaign contacts with Russia; House Ways and Means chairman requests Trump’s tax returns; Trump vs Biden; Trump says wind turbines cause cancer; With music by Twisted Mojo and Coral Gables; and so much more.

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96 comments

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:35:55pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:42:09pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

DT is more crooked that the Crooked Man who lived in the crooked house.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:42:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 3:52:05pm

re: #3 Belafon

SMDH. Hoping it wasn’t a middle aged white dude.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:10:47pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

SMDH. Hoping it wasn’t a middle aged white dude.

Me too, but I am not going to bet on it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:29:00pm
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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:33:53pm

Repeating a soapbox of mine: Trump did not spontaneously appear. He emerged from the collective American swamp, the sum of all the ids of the atavists and bigots.

Furthermore:

Nobody who is likely to play MegaMillions needs $104M. Some companies in trouble may need that much money. But more deceptively, even winning tonight’s jackpot will not get you $104M. So if you just happen to “can use” $104M, tonight’s jackpot won’t do because if you take the lump sum you’re left with $35M to $40M after taxes, far short of what you “can use”.

My obsession with lotteries aside, this is so emblematic of our America in 2019: we don’t expect the truth, we don’t want facts.

We are fully into the type of lying that Madison Ave. perfected decades ago.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:39:10pm

CL’d on previous thread:

re: #397 Jebediah, RBG

I was already living in L.A. when Kurt passed. Pretty soon after, there were people talking all these wild-ass rumors/theories that Courtney had either killed him or driven him to suicide. I asked why, then, wasn’t that in the press and why hadn’t she been arrested? CUZ EVERYONE IS SO SCARED OF HER!
So you’re telling me that every law enforcement agency up there and down here (where she was living) is so scared of Courtney that they are letting her get away with murder?
Didn’t get much of an answer to that…

Didn’t kill him - but she had been bugging the shit out of him. To be fair, he needed to go to the rehab in Venice that he eventually just broke out of. Then again, Courtney was a hot mess - she was holed up in the Peninsula Hotel (where a friend of mine was a security guard), and had shot up a mix of heroin and Valium, and had to be taken to the nearby Century City Hospital when that went wrong and she started convulsing.

They left behind a trashed hotel room and a whole bunch of cassette tapes of songs they had been working on together. I have one of the cassettes out in my garage. Wonder if anyone would want “Unreleased Kurt Cobain Demos”?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:41:26pm

Kurt & Courtney had been renting the old Tom Mix villa on top of a hill in Los Feliz (it’s the one with the gold leaf ceiling in the ballroom). It was known locally as “The Jimi Hendrix Mansion” because Jimi had living in it for a while back in the 60s.

There were all kinds of decapitated doll heads lying around, and a ton of drawings and fragmentary lyrics. The owner had gotten stiffed on the rent, and spent a year or so, trying to peddle all the junk to collectors, trying to recoup his money, before Courtney’s lawyers slapped him with a cease-and-desist.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:42:17pm

re: #8 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Hot mess indeed - I am related to someone who taught Frances Bean in elementary school. Motherhood was a big challenge for her.

EDIT: I imagine lots of people would be interested in unreleased demos

ANOTHER EDIT That kid saw and had to deal with a lot of stuff at a very young age that no kid should have to.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:50:04pm
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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:51:44pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:52:12pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Empathy for willfully ignorant racists? Lemme get back to you on that, Pete. (Hint: the answer is going to be fuck no.)

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 5, 2019 • 4:52:23pm

Courtney Love covered my high school friend’s band, The Vertebrats (it’s not a very good cover, IMO):

Courtney Love - Left In The Dark (Audio)

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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:10:03pm
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freetoken  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:11:08pm

How many candidates out there are publicly acknowledging that American Evangelicalism is morally and intellectually bankrupt?

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:20:51pm

re: #2 PhillyPretzel

DT is more crooked that the Crooked Man who lived in the crooked house.

It’s a pity that Hunter S. Thompson wasted the line “so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning” on Nixon.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:24:23pm

I have empathy for the situation - life hasn’t turned out how they expected because of things that they had no control over. Factories closed, jobs went away, etc. But, you know, that happens to everyone.

It’s been popular for a long time to bash Detroit as a place that was ruined by Democrats and by “Those People”, and to show all the empty houses and shit. It’s especially popular among people who now find themselves in the same situation as the people of Detroit - jobs went away and aren’t coming back, but the people are still there.

But instead of saying, “Cripes, now I get it!”, a lot of them double down and want to blame everyone who doesn’t look like, talk like, pray like or love like them. And that’s where my empathy sputters out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:29:58pm
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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:31:11pm

re: #16 freetoken

How many candidates out there are publicly acknowledging that American Evangelicalism is morally and intellectually bankrupt?

I’d almost find it worth the trouble to run for President if only say that yes I am a Christian and that if a fundamentalist evangelical heretic (IOW 99% of them) were on fire, Christ would not even piss on them to put it out. I’d also want to get a chance to ask Graham The Lesser if he hoped to someday become a Christian or if he preferred being the most successful creator of atheists in America?

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wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:34:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:36:15pm

This is TODAY…NOT the umbrella incident in October:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:38:26pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

But now they have someone whose job it is to take it from him while remaining invisible,

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:40:15pm

re: #16 freetoken

How many candidates out there are publicly acknowledging that American Evangelicalism is morally and intellectually bankrupt?

So far, exactly none.
And that number is, IMO, unlikely to budge in the foreseeable future.
Not as long as said Evangelicals have the vote.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:46:59pm
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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:48:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:56:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2019 • 5:59:32pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She looks kinda wistful and nostalgic….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:00:58pm

I know it’s a cover but I love David Bowie and I love Nirvana and I love this song. One of my all time favorites actually.

Nirvana - The Man Who Sold The World (MTV Unplugged)

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Unabogie  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:01:38pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s running.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:02:37pm

heh

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Unabogie  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:02:47pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

How could she not be? Donald Trump is venal, stupid, and destructive. The opposite of the intelligence, class, and grace that Obama displayed every day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:02:55pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

She looks kinda wistful and nostalgic….

so say we all…

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:04:11pm

re: #25 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

[“Giuliani defended his dual roles working closely for Trump and foreign clients, noting that he spells out in his contracts with those clients that he doesn’t lobby the U.S. government. ‘There’s no conflict. What’s the conflict?’ he said. ]

NO COLLISION CONFLICT!!!!11!!!!

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steve_davis  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:05:44pm

I’m trying to figure out if the president even has standing to try to get a court to block the release of his tax returns. The law is explicit. The IRS “shall” provide congress with the tax returns of ANY person upon request. I don’t actually see how the president fits into this at all. The request isn’t being made of him. It isn’t being made of one of his political appointees. It’s being made of a branch of government. Wouldn’t the IRS have to try to block the request?

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John Vreeland  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:06:06pm

I have always said that if Jesus Christ were running for President, evangelicals would oppose that middle-eastern socialist and stump for the anti-Christ. Jesus isn’t likely to run but I didn’t expect the other half of my prediction to be literally true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:06:21pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:11:24pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interesting note: Tomorrrow marks 25 years since Habyarimanas plane got shot down in Rwanada, triggering the genocide of Tutsis who were commonly referred to as “cockroaches” by those who sought to eliminate them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:14:25pm
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jamesfirecat  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:16:49pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not to second guess the guy who wrote the book in the first place, but shouldn’t that be what Cujo did for dogs/Saint Bernards?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:16:57pm

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Interesting note: Tomorrrow marks 25 years since Habyarimanas plane got shot down in Rwanada, triggering the genocide of hutus who were commonly referred to as “cockroaches” by those who sought to eliminate them.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:20:19pm

Hi guys, sharing this and hope it’s ok with Charles. My wife’s cousin in el salvador is raising money to get a new prosthetic leg. He was a soccer player and athlete and is an all around good dude. His story is on the gofundme but if anyone has anything to spare it would be awesome.

gofundme.com

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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:20:32pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:22:07pm
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Teukka  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:25:33pm

re: #43 Teukka

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:26:52pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What a drag it is getting old. Oh, wait, that was Mick’s line. But he’s in the surgery loop, too. What a drag it is getting old.

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wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:27:19pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

I know it’s a cover but I love David Bowie and I love Nirvana and I love this song. One of my all time favorites actually.

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Video

I love Bowie and Cobain did justice to this song.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:29:56pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jaws totally fucked up swimming in the ocean at night for me. A strand of seaweed touched my leg and I walked on water back to shore.

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steve_davis  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:32:47pm

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

I have empathy for the situation - life hasn’t turned out how they expected because of things that they had no control over. Factories closed, jobs went away, etc. But, you know, that happens to everyone.

It’s been popular for a long time to bash Detroit as a place that was ruined by Democrats and by “Those People”, and to show all the empty houses and shit. It’s especially popular among people who now find themselves in the same situation as the people of Detroit - jobs went away and aren’t coming back, but the people are still there.

But instead of saying, “Cripes, now I get it!”, a lot of them double down and want to blame everyone who doesn’t look like, talk like, pray like or love like them. And that’s where my empathy sputters out.

Detroit wasn’t ruined by Democrats and “Those People.” It was ruined by upper management that sold people shitty cars for roughly 50 years and finally paid a price for it.

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:33:20pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s a much better use of Trump’s Nazi-talk:

“They had fangs. They were biting people. They had this look in their eyes — totally cold. Animal. I think they were Young Republicans.”

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:34:08pm

re: #49 steve_davis

Detroit wasn’t ruined by Democrats and “Those People.” It was ruined by upper management that sold people shitty cars for roughly 50 years and finally paid a price for it.

Upper management never paid the price for anything. They just fucked things up for everyone else.

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wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:34:18pm

re: #48 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Jaws totally fucked up swimming in the ocean at night for me. A strand of seaweed touched my leg and I walked on water back to shore.

If you had gone on the Universal Studios ‘Jaws’ ride, or whatever it was, you would have been cured. The model of a shark that lunged at the boat was the fakest thing I’d ever seen. And that’s saying a lot for Southern California.

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Old Liberal  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:35:58pm

re: #49 steve_davis

Detroit wasn’t ruined by Democrats and “Those People.” It was ruined by upper management that sold people shitty cars for roughly 50 years and finally paid a price for it.

And Reagan’s breaking of unions and turning people against unions.

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steve_davis  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:38:02pm

re: #46 Barefoot Grin

What a drag it is getting old. Oh, wait, that was Mick’s line. But he’s in the surgery loop, too. What a drag it is getting old.

beats hell out of the alternative.

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wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:47:10pm

re: #54 steve_davis

beats hell out of the alternative.

I said that once to an 84 yr. old woman who I used to visit in a nursing home (I left out the ‘hell out of’). She kind of glared and repeated her initial statement, ‘Don’t ever get old’.

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uriel  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:48:14pm

re: #48 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Jaws totally fucked up swimming in the ocean at night for me. A strand of seaweed touched my leg and I walked on water back to shore.

Honestly, as someone who grew up on the Gulf and Atlantic, swimming at night is a horrible idea, sharks not withstanding. You loose your ability to accurately triangulate your position to landmarks on the shore way too easily in the dark. Then you’re just one unexpected tidal shift or random current away from drifting way beyond your ability to make the shore.

The ocean at night is a terrifying entity. And it doesn’t care about you. At all.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:48:49pm

re: #54 steve_davis

beats hell out of the alternative.

Tru dat!

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:53:37pm

re: #15 freetoken

Also as freedom increases the power of white, ‘Christian’ Americans decreases.

And they really hate that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:54:12pm
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Romantic Heretic  Apr 5, 2019 • 6:57:21pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, he knows how. He just doesn’t because that’s what servants are for.

He wouldn’t empty his own bowels if he could figure out how to get someone else to do it for him.

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:01:06pm

re: #60 Romantic Heretic

Oh, he knows how. He just doesn’t because that’s what servants are for.

He wouldn’t empty his own bowels if he could figure out how to get someone else to do it for him.

Actually, that’s a thoroughly done deal, with every DC Republican fighting for the privilege of eating turds directly out of Trump’s as if he were shitting $100 bills.

Republicans really are revolting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:05:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:08:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:12:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:15:13pm

the Queen? REALLY?

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gocart mozart  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:21:25pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:23:30pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:28:01pm

re: #49 steve_davis

Detroit wasn’t ruined by Democrats and “Those People.” It was ruined by upper management that sold people shitty cars for roughly 50 years and finally paid a price for it.

Detroit’s automakers suffer from the same malady as most of corporate America: they only look as far as the next fiscal quarter or fiscal year. IOW they focus mostly on short-term goals — profits and dividends — and pay lip service to long-term goals — R&D and the future of the automobile in the USA. China has automakers, which, as a counter-example, are aggressively manufacturing and marketing commercial electric vehicles in the EU. A subsidiary of Geely makes the new hybrid London taxis. BYD electrified and modernized the classic double-decker London buses. As another example, VW will bring three EV models to market by 2025, including electric versions of the VW Microbus/Transporter/Kombi, the Golf, and an SUV. Meanwhile, US automakers are scaling back domestic production of sedans in favor of urban assault vehicles (SUVs) and pickup trucks. Sure, some models are electric or hybrid, but those are just decorations for a gas-guzzler cake. It’s the same short-sightedness that hit Detroit hard during the gas crisis of the mid-70s, when pretty much all they had were gas-guzzler models. Suddenly, car buyers found those funny looking foreign cars a lot more appealing.

Corporate America has used advertising and marketing to shape American consumers’ tastes for decades. Imagine if they used that ability to convince Joe PickupTruck and Jane SUVSoccerMom that electric vehicles (or at least cars with better gas mileage) are a viable alternative and in fact are the future of the automobile.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:31:12pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:31:56pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

the Queen? REALLY?

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The Queen would not be gambling in a casino, and certainly not in a Trump casino. Besides, she has no executive power at all, so it’s ludicrous to assume she would direct MI5 or MI6 to sabotage Trump, however sweet that would be.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:34:13pm

re: #69 Dread Pirate Whitebeard

Telling the Feds months after they executed search warrants on your home and office, “Hey guys! You missed all this stuff I just remembered I had!” does not seem like a winning strategy.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:36:41pm

I am editing a former student’s master’s thesis now. It is so poorly written that I want to set fire to it, but I can’t, because I can’t afford to replace my laptop.

You’d think youngsters would know all about spellcheckers and stuff.

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:41:23pm

re: #71 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Telling the Feds months after they executed search warrants on your home and office, “Hey guys! You missed all this stuff I just remembered I had!” does not seem like a winning strategy.

Cohen is not the sharpest guy around.

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:47:09pm

re: #68 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Corporate America has used advertising and marketing to shape American consumers’ tastes for decades. Imagine if they used that ability to convince Joe PickupTruck and Jane SUVSoccerMom that electric vehicles (or at least cars with better gas mileage) are a viable alternative and in fact are the future of the automobile.

Only if they have a direct - and large enough - financial incentive to do so. Otherwise, the American auto industry is probably more likely to flex its considerable advertising and marketing muscle to do what they’ve been doing for decades: i.e. wrap them in the Flag, and convince Joe and Jane Public that huge, heavy, gas-guzzling behemoths (not coincidentally the ones with the highest profit margins) are the only cars Real Americans(tm) should ever buy.
And, if that strategy proves disadvantageous to domestic producers vis-a-vis electric vehicles? Well, that’s what punitive tariff regimes are for……

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unproven innocence  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:48:41pm

re: #71 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Telling the Feds months after they executed search warrants on your home and office, “Hey guys! You missed all this stuff I just remembered I had!” does not seem like a winning strategy.

It might be consistent with requirements of a plea deal, or somesuch, for a cooperating witness.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:52:28pm

No. No. No.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:54:35pm

But I sure would be hungry for this!

omgchocolatedesserts.com

Banana Bread Cheesecake!

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:55:49pm
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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2019 • 7:56:50pm

re: #77 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wouldn’t care for that personally, but the looks of it made me think of carrot cake. Mmmmm nom nom nom :)

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:01:07pm

re: #78 MsJ

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Not tRump specifically, but “the GOP”. Hmmmm

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plansbandc  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:08:28pm

re: #77 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’d rather it the mayo creme egg. Banana bread is a big no go for me. But in fairness, the mayo creme egg does sound disgusting. :D

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Cheechako  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:15:04pm

re: #68 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Your comment reminded me of an observation I made during our 5 1/2 month snowbird trip to the lower 48.

Driving on the Interstates, I noticed a lot of auto/truck and recreation vehicle (RV) dealers. I was astonished at the size of the inventories of unsold vehicles that a majority of the dealers were maintaining. There were multiple auto/truck lots that had to have over 500 car/trucks in their inventory. Same with the RV dealers. Many had over 150 Rvs that were unsold. And these were expensive ($100K +) models.

I have questions:

Who’s going to purchase all these vehicles?

Have American consumers tightened their belts?

Have the manufactures over-produced for today’s market?

Is this an indicator of a slowing economy?

I guess time will tell.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:16:18pm

re: #82 Cheechako

I wonder the same thing, just driving by these dealers here in the midwest.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:16:34pm

re: #83 retired cynic

And it’s good to see you here!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:37:20pm

re: #82 Cheechako

Your comment reminded me of an observation I made during our 5 1/2 month snowbird trip to the lower 48.

Driving on the Interstates, I noticed a lot of auto/truck and recreation vehicle (RV) dealers. I was astonished at the size of the inventories of unsold vehicles that a majority of the dealers were maintaining. There were multiple auto/truck lots that had to have over 500 car/trucks in their inventory. Same with the RV dealers. Many had over 150 Rvs that were unsold. And these were expensive ($100K +) models.

I have questions:

Who’s going to purchase all these vehicles?

Have American consumers tightened their belts?

Have the manufactures over-produced for today’s market?

Is this an indicator of a slowing economy?

I guess time will tell.

Being a car dealer is a thankless job. The automaker requires you to have all those cars in stock and expects you to sell them all before the model year ends. Then, when the model year ends, you’ve got all of last year’s models to sell as loss leaders.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:49:21pm

re: #78 MsJ

As if the GOP will hold themselves accountable. lol

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 5, 2019 • 8:52:19pm

re: #82 Cheechako

Glad to see you here!

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:12:20pm

re: #86 GlutenFreeJesus

As if the GOP will hold themselves accountable. lol

No kidding. They’re corrupt, lying, criminals every last one. Every. Last. One.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:20:08pm

re: #86 GlutenFreeJesus

As if the GOP will hold themselves accountable. lol

They weren’t held accountable when Tricky Dicky had Claire Chennault sabotage the Paris Peace Talks until Tricky got into the White House.

They weren’t held accountable when President Pruneface and his Pals looted the Savings & Loans, flooded South Central Los Angeles with Contra Cocaine and gave arms to Iran.

They weren’t held accountable when Old Fart Bush pardoned all of his Iran-Contra pals

They weren’t held accountable when Dumbya lied us into war with Iraq

They weren’t held accountable when McConnell blocked any attempt to check Russian election interference.

Republicans are above the law.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:22:09pm

There’s some serious cross-pollination going on here, musically. This is BlackPink, a South Korean group.

BLACKPINK - ‘Kill This Love’ M/V

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:31:32pm

Repeat offender:

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:34:54pm

re: #71 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Telling the Feds months after they executed search warrants on your home and office, “Hey guys! You missed all this stuff I just remembered I had!” does not seem like a winning strategy.

On PSA they said that this is reportedly all from seized material that the FBI returned to him.

I don’t think anybody understands it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:37:08pm

re: #89 Joe Bacon 🌹

They weren’t held accountable when Tricky Dicky had Claire Chennault sabotage the Paris Peace Talks until Tricky got into the White House.

They weren’t held accountable when President Pruneface and his Pals looted the Savings & Loans, flooded South Central Los Angeles with Contra Cocaine and gave arms to Iran.

They weren’t held accountable when Old Fart Bush pardoned all of his Iran-Contra pals

They weren’t held accountable when Dumbya lied us into war with Iraq

They weren’t held accountable when McConnell blocked any attempt to check Russian election interference.

Republicans are above the law.

The Democrats did lie us into the VietNam war, and they lost the Presidency in the 1968 election. But they kept the House and the Senate. Democratic Senators were involved in the Savings and Loan scandal.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:40:21pm
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mmmirele  Apr 5, 2019 • 9:43:36pm

re: #82 Cheechako

Your comment reminded me of an observation I made during our 5 1/2 month snowbird trip to the lower 48.

Driving on the Interstates, I noticed a lot of auto/truck and recreation vehicle (RV) dealers. I was astonished at the size of the inventories of unsold vehicles that a majority of the dealers were maintaining. There were multiple auto/truck lots that had to have over 500 car/trucks in their inventory. Same with the RV dealers. Many had over 150 Rvs that were unsold. And these were expensive ($100K +) models.

I have questions:

Who’s going to purchase all these vehicles?

Have American consumers tightened their belts?

Have the manufactures over-produced for today’s market?

Is this an indicator of a slowing economy?

I guess time will tell.

There are quite a few trailer/RV places within two miles of my home. Given the amount of stock all these places have in inventory (millions of dollars just in Airstreams, which stand out), I once did a back of the envelope calculation and figured there was around $100 million in unsold trailers and RVs within those two miles. This doesn’t include the mobile home dealers, of which there are several. Thing is, it’s been like this for a while; this particular area is known for selling trailers, RVs and mobile homes to the 55 and up crowd.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 6, 2019 • 5:59:35am

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

I have empathy for the situation - life hasn’t turned out how they expected because of things that they had no control over. Factories closed, jobs went away, etc. But, you know, that happens to everyone.

It’s been popular for a long time to bash Detroit as a place that was ruined by Democrats and by “Those People”, and to show all the empty houses and shit. It’s especially popular among people who now find themselves in the same situation as the people of Detroit - jobs went away and aren’t coming back, but the people are still there.

But instead of saying, “Cripes, now I get it!”, a lot of them double down and want to blame everyone who doesn’t look like, talk like, pray like or love like them. And that’s where my empathy sputters out.

They want to blame rather than fix.


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