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1
freetoken  Apr 7, 2019 • 2:49:38pm

Perpetual chaos, who could have thought that one up?

Is there any way back from a Brexit cliff edge?

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retired cynic  Apr 7, 2019 • 2:49:51pm

They’ve done a documentary on Molly Ivins! Well, it ought to be a series!

startribune.com

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 7, 2019 • 2:54:18pm
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freetoken  Apr 7, 2019 • 2:54:52pm

Here’s something that has gotten almost no coverage here in the US:

Air strikes in battle for Libyan capital as US withdraws troops

In another sign of the worsening situation on the ground, a contingent of US forces supporting the US Africa Command evacuated Libya for security reasons, a US statement said. It gave no details.

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 2:56:41pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

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The “liberal media,” ladies and gents.

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2019 • 2:58:25pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

“Even more trickier”? Is Toad channeling Trump now?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:00:39pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

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Even if the 25% was true, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE?

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:00:40pm

Mitt is getting way too liberal for the GOP, he better watch it.

He’s gone from singling out 47% to 25% now. I guess that is progress.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:02:19pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

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You can always count on Chuck U Todd to kiss Romney’s ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:03:21pm

there it is:

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:03:38pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

“Even more trickier”? Is Toad channeling Trump now?

He’s just asking questions on a TV show. Chuck doesn’t want to disappoint anyone so he can get them on that show.

So, he’ll just point his pen at us and say he doesn’t have enough time, this could go on (and be a long debate which we will never have).

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:03:46pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

there it is:

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Let the whitewash commence!

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:05:43pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

Let the whitewash commence!

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…and another investigation and visit to congress probably begins.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:05:53pm

Another Acting Secretary.

Anyone notice a pattern here?

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:07:07pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even if the 25% was true, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE?

The usual amount: The GOP playing the “Those undeserving bastards are stealing your tax dollars!” BS intended to serve as an excuse for the heartless shit they want to make happen. The idea is that if “only” 1/4 of the population is inconvenienced, then the other 3/4 somehow benefit from the ACA being repealed.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:07:07pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

There is a revolving door for WH staff. And DT is running the gov’t like a reality show.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:07:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:08:26pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:09:09pm

She ought to be taking up a new position…in Leavenworth…

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:09:18pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another Acting Secretary.

Anyone notice a pattern here?

A cheap TV reality show with one star and his family and everyone else as a bit part used by the star for whatever he wishes.

Yeah, seems that way.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:11:10pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:11:50pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now we watch as every “bad” decision made in the past 2 years on immigration will be portrayed as either her decision or her idea that she sold Donny on, the entire “crisis” due to her “failure” to properly execute his will.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:14:03pm

re: #21 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Trump probably: Clean asbestos, it’ll be great. Best insulation ever, I bet you didn’t know that. And it’s green, it comes from the earth like coal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:15:45pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Trump probably: Clean asbestos, it’ll be great. Best insulation ever, I bet you didn’t know that. And it’s green, it comes from the earth like coal.

it’s an all-natural product, I can tell you…

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steve_davis  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:18:00pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

The usual amount: The GOP playing the “Those undeserving bastards are stealing your tax dollars!” BS intended to serve as an excuse for the heartless shit they want to make happen. The idea is that if “only” 1/4 of the population is inconvenienced, then the other 3/4 somehow benefit from the ACA being repealed.

today’s sermon in large part about how many Christians don’t realize that Christ’s statement in Lazarus’ house that “there will be poor always” is a deuteronomical call to arms against poverty, and not some right-wing rationalization to resigning ourselves to do nothing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:19:00pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Trump probably: Clean asbestos, it’ll be great. Best insulation ever, I bet you didn’t know that. And it’s green, it comes from the earth like coal.

Let’s ask my Dad about “clean asbestos”.

OOPS, you can’t. He died from asbestos-related cancer!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:20:33pm

re: #25 steve_davis

today’s sermon in large part about how many Christians don’t realize that Christ’s statement in Lazarus’ house that “there will be poor always” is a deuteronomical call to arms against poverty, and not some right-wing rationalization to resigning ourselves to do nothing.

Doesn’t matter.

The overwhelming majority of Christians went to church today to hear sermons praising Gawd’s Anointed King.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:21:15pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another Acting Secretary.

Anyone notice a pattern here?

Is there any legal time limit for how long someone can be in an “Acting” role?

I worry we’ll soon have an entire cabinet of unconfirmed, unaccountable “Acting” secretaries.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:21:17pm
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plansbandc  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:22:53pm

Nielsen has blood on her hands. Her actions will have consequences for decades. She is an utterly terrible person.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:23:25pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Trump probably: Clean asbestos, it’ll be great. Best insulation ever, I bet you didn’t know that. And it’s green, it comes from the earth like coal.

“That’s why, Mr. President, we’ve installed asbestos insulation in the White House bedroom walls, and are installing coal ovens in your room right now.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:23:41pm

re: #30 plansbandc

Nielsen has blood on her hands. Her actions will have consequences for decades. She is an utterly terrible person.

And her replacement is going to be even worse.

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plansbandc  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:23:57pm

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

Absolutely.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:26:38pm

Rachel will have to buy a new monitor for her set.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:26:39pm

For those of you in Maryland:

Michael E. Busch, a gregarious former coach and high school teacher who became the longest-serving House of Delegates speaker in Maryland history, died Sunday after a short bout with pneumonia. He was 72.

Busch died at University of Maryland Medical Center in Baltimore, where he had been placed Saturday on a ventilator to help him breathe. A statement Sunday morning from his office said Busch had made the decision to use the ventilator, but that his condition took a turn Sunday for the worse.

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BigPapa  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:26:52pm

Just nominate Stephen Miller. After noms for Cain’t and Moore, there’s only one way to top those.

Or Sheriff Arpaio
Or Sheriff Ruckus

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:30:22pm

No shit, Sherlock!

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unproven innocence  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:31:32pm

re: #30 plansbandc

Nielsen has blood on her hands. Her actions will have consequences for decades. She is an utterly terrible person.

There will be consequences for generations, not just decades.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:31:43pm

I wonder what parting gift Orange Foolius gave to Reichstag Barbie?

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Jay C  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:32:34pm

re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹

Rachel will have to buy a new monitor for her set.

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She had commented, a while back, about needing more wall space for her ever-expanding list of Trump Administration departures: it looks like she is going to need one the size of the Vietnam Memorial…..

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:32:37pm

re: #39 Joe Bacon 🌹

A Get out of Jail card?

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:34:39pm

re: #37 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:35:11pm

re: #37 Joe Bacon 🌹

No shit, Sherlock!

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That would be a shame. Lucky for Trump he has a deep bench of idiots to choose from. I wonder if Lou Dobbs would take the job if he could keep his Fox show?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:38:02pm

re: #21 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Wind mills cause cancer, but asbestos will MRGA!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:38:13pm
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Jay C  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:40:43pm

re: #38 unproven innocence

re: #30 plansbandc

Nielsen has blood on her hands. Her actions will have consequences for decades. She is an utterly terrible person.

There will be consequences for generations, not just decades.

But if it slows/reduces/eliminates the number of “illegal immigrants”* in the country, all said policies will be deemed a smashing success by a disgracefully large number of people.
An unfortunately, I have the feeling that the Administration is probably planning to double down on its anti-immigration stance (the “NO VACANCY” policy), and enforce it with even harsher methods than at present.

*i.e., anyone non-white wanting to come in.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:40:45pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:41:13pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

Miller not only has no shadow…he casts no reflection in a mirror, either!

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:41:23pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another Acting Secretary.

Anyone notice a pattern here?

“I sort of like ‘acting,’ ” Trump said. “It gives me more flexibility; do you understand that? I like ‘acting.’ “

So said the asshole on January 6.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:41:55pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

She got the fucking date wrong in her letter. Smh.

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:42:29pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump is unhappy with everybody he appoints. Maybe he’s just really bad at this.

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freetoken  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:43:07pm

Keep your gums healthy:

Gum bacteria implicated in Alzheimer’s and other diseases

Researchers are reporting new findings on how bacteria involved in gum disease can travel throughout the body, exuding toxins connected with Alzheimer’s disease, rheumatoid arthritis and aspiration pneumonia. They detected evidence of the bacteria in brain samples from people with Alzheimer’s and used mice to show that the bacterium can find its way from the mouth to the brain.

[…]

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:43:18pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Trump probably: Clean asbestos, it’ll be great. Best insulation ever, I bet you didn’t know that. And it’s green, it comes from the earth like coal.

Did a Russian Asbestos Company Put Trump’s Face on Their Product?
A Russian asbestos producer shared a photograph of their product to social media with a seal of Donald Trump’s face and the text “Approved by Donald Trump”.

snopes.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:43:40pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Trump is unhappy with everybody he appoints. Maybe he’s just really bad at this.

No, it’s because the people he appoints tell him he can’t do all the authoritarian shit he wants to do and that’s not what he wants to hear.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:43:56pm
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Jay C  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:44:06pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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If that IS the text of Neilsen’s resignation latter, it’s blatantly obvious that she didn’t just dash it off on the spot after a WH confab. That sort of content-free document has had to been composed beforehand….

ADD: didn’t see: resigning AS OF TODAY (4/7)???
ADD 2: “April 7, 2018”?? Maybe this letter HAS been on file for a while….

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Charles Johnson  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:44:47pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:45:47pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:46:52pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even if the 25% was true, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE?

So roughly 80 MILLION people. Yeah, drop in the bucket.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:48:22pm

This is why I refer to that evil thing as Reichstag Barbie!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:48:25pm

re: #56 Jay C

If that IS the text of Neilsen’s resignation latter, it’s blatantly obvious that she didn’t just dash it off on the spot after a WH confab. That sort of content-free document has had to been composed beforehand….

ADD: didn’t see: resigning AS OF TODAY (4/7)???

As per the letter, technically last year…lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:50:48pm

re: #50 Eclectic Cyborg

She got the fucking date wrong in her letter. Smh.

yeah, I was gonna say “she left a year ago???”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:51:38pm
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freetoken  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:51:55pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah, I was gonna say “she left a year ago???”

Actually she did leave a year ago, and what everyone has been watching the past year has been a simulacrum.

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Dizzy  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:52:58pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Breaking: The Ice Queen of family separation is separating from the Trump crime family.

I understand that Trump actually did this face to face. Is this the first time he’s fired one of his minions that way? Interesting that he chose to do it in person with a woman. I think he probably enjoyed seeing her disappointment immediately.

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:53:43pm

And my friend Liz’s viral media phenom continues (the nurse who adopted the abandoned baby)—coming up on ABC News.

Want a feel good moment? Watch it!

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:54:27pm

re: #65 Dizzy

I understand that Trump actually did this face to face. Is this the first time he’s fired one of his minions that way? Interesting that he chose to do it in person with a woman. I think he probably enjoyed seeing her disappointment immediately.

That and he’s afraid of men.

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freetoken  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:55:32pm

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Charles Johnson  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:55:41pm
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Dizzy  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:55:42pm

re: #67 Belafon

That and he’s afraid of men.

Most certainly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:59:31pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Wow, I never knew they expanded Gitmo so much.

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2019 • 3:59:42pm

re: #59 Eventual Carrion

So roughly 80 MILLION people. Yeah, drop in the bucket.

None of them are named Romney so who gives a shit?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:01:36pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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I can’t wait for the day to come when these Qwazy Qs fantasies blow up in their faces when Trump and his cronies get arrested…

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:03:31pm

re: #66 BeachDem

And my friend Liz’s viral media phenom continues (the nurse who adopted the abandoned baby)—coming up on ABC News.

Want a feel good moment? Watch it!

I know I’ve mentioned this story before, but I am still astounded at the massive coverage it’s been getting—the Google News listing (and that’s not even all the coverage)

news.google.com

Just amazing when a feel-good story like this takes off.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:04:36pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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Another doomsday cult whose clock is perpetually rest.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:06:27pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:07:38pm

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

Nice touch with the flames.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:07:43pm
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plansbandc  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:08:33pm

re: #38 unproven innocence

Yes. I lowballed it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:08:50pm

Gah. I just saw something that said, “We need to return to the ideals of our founders”, and I immediately thought, “Suffrage and slave pussy for the white guys! Everyone else can go fuck themselves!”

But that’s probably not what they meant.

Probably.

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freetoken  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:08:50pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie is not only not useful, he’s becoming a useful idiot.

Maybe his quote is being taken out of context. I guess once people pour over the transcripts we’ll know more.

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BigPapa  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:08:52pm

Sounds like a shark attack right by me in Kohala. Body in water, helicopter tried to net the person, ‘large tiger shark’ seen circling and drug the body under. Still hasn’t been recovered.

Local police feed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:09:13pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:10:47pm

Date corrected
Haven’t checked to see if all text is the same

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:11:36pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m concerned that we may end up looking back on Nielsen’s tenure as sort of a golden age, esp. if Stephen Fucking Miller has anything to do with it.

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plansbandc  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:12:36pm

Pretty sure my cousin is a Qanon nutter. I’m scared to find out for sure.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:13:42pm

re: #66 BeachDem

And my friend Liz’s viral media phenom continues (the nurse who adopted the abandoned baby)—coming up on ABC News.

Want a feel good moment? Watch it!

I saw it linked checking my email on Yahoo/Att email’s log in page, linked to some publication, but it is in heavy circulation. As it should be.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:15:17pm

re: #67 Belafon

That and he’s afraid of men.

He’s not afraid of Lindsey Graham.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:15:58pm

re: #86 plansbandc

Pretty sure my cousin is a Qanon nutter. I’m scared to find out for sure.

“The fact that nothing I’ve predicted has come true has only made me more sure I’m right!!!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:16:17pm

re: #88 ObserverArt

He’s not afraid of Lindsey Graham.

Non sequitur.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:16:20pm

re: #88 ObserverArt

He’s not afraid of Lindsey Graham.

I’ll be nice…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:17:13pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll be nice…

One of us had to.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:18:44pm

Trump attacks Rep. Ilhan Omar hours after a supporter was charged with threatening to kill her
vox.com

Trump delivered his disparaging remarks against Omar just hours after police in New York charged a man for threatening to assault and murder her.

Patrick Carlineo Jr., an avowed Trump supporter, was arrested Friday for calling Omar’s office and delivering an expletive-filled rant that included violent threats against the elected official.

“Do you work for the Muslim Brotherhood? Why are you working for her, she’s a fucking terrorist? I’ll put a bullet in her fucking skull,” Carlineo allegedly told staffers, according to the criminal complaint filed by the US Attorney’s Office in the Western District of New York.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:20:16pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

Gah. I just saw something that said, “We need to return to the ideals of our founders”, and I immediately thought, “Suffrage and slave pussy for the white guys! Everyone else can go fuck themselves!”

But that’s probably not what they meant.

Probably.

And Clarence Thomas would only cast 3/5 of a vote in the Supreme Court.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:22:08pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

Non sequitur.

Fat fastball, low-speed middle of the plate…hanging…

You know sometimes you just have questions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:22:39pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

And Clarence Thomas would only cast 3/5 of a vote in the Supreme Court.

And he’d only get that because he’s “one of the good ones”.

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:26:05pm

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

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nines09  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:28:09pm

Stumble across a song that I heard long ago and then we get……………………
The Full Album. Big Star- #1 Record (1972)
Damn

YouTube

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:30:21pm

re: #63 Joe Bacon 🌹

The curly hair gun girl wearing a beige leotard holding an AR-15

That…could possibly be the worst of the lot.

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William Lewis  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:31:20pm

re: #98 nines09

Stumble across a song that I heard long ago and then we get……………………
The Full Album. Big Star- #1 Record (1972)
Damn

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“I never go far
Without a little Big Star”
The ‘Mats at perhaps finest moment…

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piratedan  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:34:05pm

re: #98 nines09

was always more of a Raspberries guy myself, but they helped usher in the golden age of Power Pop which is possibly my most favorite genre musically…..

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:34:53pm

Despite my intense interest in all things space-related, then and now, I had never heard of this 1962 movie before someone posted about it on the Apollo/Saturn FB page today.


Wikipedia
Apparently it is a satirical comedy that gently mocks the same government and industry figures Disney had earlier deified in his Man in Space series. The FBI complained to Disney about the script, since it portrayed an FBI agent as an astronaut’s bodyguard, which is not their job. The script was duly changed, with the FBI agent becoming a “federal security agent.” The FBI then complained because the “security agent” was portrayed as a buffoon.
It is available on Amazon Prime so I may check it out. Given the minimal production values and lowest-common-denominator scripting in many of Disney’s mass market products of the time, I am not expecting much. There might be something there, though.
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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:35:03pm

re: #101 piratedan

was always more of a Raspberries guy myself, but they helped usher in the golden age of Power Pop which is possibly my most favorite genre musically…..

Cleveland pop!

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:35:24pm

re: #98 nines09

Stumble across a song that I heard long ago and then we get……………………
The Full Album. Big Star- #1 Record (1972)
Damn

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Video

Upding so many times! (but only one counts)

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:35:28pm

re: #97 Skip Intro

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Not quite accurate. The real Brexit is May standing at an open door saying she can’t find the exit.

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mmmirele  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:37:44pm

Well, I went out and stood in front of a church this afternoon with a sign calling out their pastor, who is on record as saying that women who have abortions should be executed. Turns out I fucked up. The pastor is in Salt Lake City, harassing the Mormons who go to General Conference. But I did get to yell at some of the people who came out to talk to me. I made it absolutely clear that I absolutely favor the lives of the women already born and living and I was just not going to give an inch to their “what about the unborn women?” cant.

I don’t think they liked me calling them a cult, but when FOUR OF THEM, at SEPARATE TIMES, came out and told me that “fetus” means “baby,” I think I’m justified in calling them a cult.* I think and hope they were startled when I shouted several times, “Jesus save us from your professional followers!” when they tried browbeating me. And of course I’m angry! Those people want to force women to be pregnant against their will! The piece de resistance was they told me I was going to hell. Good! If Calvin’s god (the one these people worship) is the one in charge, I WANT to go to hell. I would rather go to hell than worship an evil being like that, who, according to their own teachings, condemns people to hell before they’re even born!

There will probably be a video of Angry Me. I was also very angry some times when picketing the Scientologists, so just because I was angry with the pro-life church doesn’t mean I am angry with God. I’m just angry at their stupidity and, well, cultishness.

*I mean, seriously, it was the same wording and everything. It was creepy as hell.

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nines09  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:37:57pm

re: #100 William Lewis

re: #101 piratedan

Totally forgotten in my feeble mind.
Then you hear a song, dig and boom.
I have so many rattling around, forgot more than I remember.
When I think about it I was, as you of a certain age was also, exposed to genius on a daily basis.
May I never stop remembering.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:43:23pm

re: #107 nines09

Totally forgotten in my feeble mind.
Then you hear a song, dig and boom.
I have so many rattling around, forgot more than I remember.
When I think about it I was, as you of a certain age was also, exposed to genius on a daily basis.
May I never stop remembering.

Every night I tell myself I am the cosmos….

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William Lewis  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:45:59pm

re: #106 mmmirele

Your witness to the reality of the Gospel gives me hope that some will hear and learn. I am glad you share your story with us.

Today’s lection was on John’s version of the woman anointing Jesus; they certainly played Judas’ role perfectly.

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:47:16pm

Trump/Miller is officially calling for children to be tortured more, because the current torture isn’t ‘deterrent’ enough.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:47:48pm
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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:48:08pm

Meanwhile International Criminal Court prosecutors are finding it more difficult to travel to the U.S.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:48:21pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Despite my intense interest in all things space-related, then and now, I had never heard of this 1962 movie before someone posted about it on the Apollo/Saturn FB page today.

While you’re checking out obscure spaceflight movies, have you seen Fritz Lang’s Woman in the Moon (Frau im Mond)? Filmed in 1929 (as a “serious” science fiction film, and I’ve always been fond of it.

And there’s Meliès’ A Trip to the Moon, which everyone should see.

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:48:43pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:49:31pm

re: #111 Dave In Austin

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Jurassic Park much?

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:50:27pm
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William Lewis  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:50:37pm

re: #112 jaunte

Meanwhile International Criminal Court prosecutors are finding it more difficult to travel to the U.S.

I’d rather see former Trump appointees find it difficult to escape ICC arrest.

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:51:33pm

re: #117 William Lewis

Like all cult leaders, Trump’s solution to disagreement is to shut out the outside world.

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:52:45pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:56:22pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

And yet, you still have folk willing to work in Trump’s administration only to be discarded when they out serve their usefulness to his agenda.

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Jay C  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:56:43pm

re: #119 jaunte

Note: that’s not the Congressman.
Still clever, though.

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 4:58:12pm
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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:01:43pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:02:59pm

re: #123 jaunte

If Karma bit Steven Miller in the ass he would get off on that and beg for more.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:03:21pm

re: #111 Dave In Austin

So I took my WTF to the internet — if anyone cares, it’s a frilled agama. (It was featured in Jurassic Park, although I don’t remember it. I’m not sure I ever watched JP from beginning to end, though.)

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:09:49pm

H-2B, is that the pay-a-bribe visa?

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:11:45pm
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Teukka  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:12:33pm

Damnit, do I have to teach everyone?

And here is where the new stuff drizzled in *sigh*

Holy, what disgusting man you are.
?

Comparing immoral users of image with mass murder is disgusting.

What you call “immoral use” has effects. Such as it justifying extremists on the other side to commit atrocities, to ’ avenge ‘. Which more than likely is the purpose of the “immoral use”, to whip up hatred. Happened more than once in history that it/1
the trick was used. The Problem is that hate blinds and destroys judgement. You see things like threats that aren’t even close to being there, and act against the threats you think are there. With The right horrific results. An extremist is basically a person who is dependent /2
of hatred. In The case of ICE against “infidels”, in the case of extremists on the other side against Muslims and immigrants, in historical cases non-Aryan, Jews and other “Untermensch” (and we have not gotten rid of them completely yet). Extremism is the threat, whether Christians, Jews, Muslims, /3
Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, Swedes, immigrants or even Pastafarians. They have the very same capacity for atrocities, just the right excuse to start missing. Which is where the “immoral usage” of Ebba’s image comes in. It forms part of the apology /4
for those hate-addicted to get started and commit atrocities. The more you realize just that, basically extremists regardless of the superficial kind of the same scrap and barley, only at different stages, the easier it is to resist and deal with the problem. /5
Plus lots of other bonus effects, such as being able to see how some sorts of tricks pop up again and again through at least centuries in history (know myself some tricks that have been in use for 700 years, at least). And the vast majority of times have innocent blood flowed. /6
If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it. I just Hope that some time enough people learn to avoid thhat those who slept in the history lesson repeating history /FIN

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:12:41pm

re: #126 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

It’s the Pay A Bribe, Do The Work and Now Get Out Visa.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:13:27pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:14:19pm

re: #127 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Of course he doesn’t care, because none of those responsibilities translate into votes from his nativist base.

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mmmirele  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:14:51pm

re: #109 William Lewis

Your witness to the reality of the Gospel gives me hope that some will hear and learn. I am glad you share your story with us.

Today’s lection was on John’s version of the woman anointing Jesus; they certainly played Judas’ role perfectly.

Thank you—this was unexpected. I didn’t see it as a Gospel thing, I see it as standing up for women. These people had the *gall* to haul out Dred Scott v. Sanford and try to use it to say that there should be no abortion. Well, there’s a category difference between a zygote/embryo/fetus and an already here, already living and breathing person. And those people would also enslave women to pregnancy and childbirth, which can be dangerous, even fatal to women.

Oh, and their pastor? He’s trying this dodge that he’s not advocating the killing of women who have had abortions. No, that’s for the state to do. But he sure as heck will advocate for laws calling for execution of women who commit murder (in his mind) by having abortions. He’s such a poseur. He has no problem with going to open mic at the Phoenix city council meeting and call on the council to make Phoenix a “sanctuary city for the unborn.” He and his fellows were talking about how wonderful it was that they spoke truth to the city council. *shakes head* It was during open mic, where anyone has three minutes to get out what’s on their mind, whether it’s about noisy neighbors, potholes, dogs running loose, or, in this case, going to a city they don’t live in to preach at the council.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:19:39pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:20:51pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She oversaw the policies that her boss either ordered she put in place or signed off on. Let’s not act as though the camp commandant just came up with the whole thing on her own.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:21:09pm
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Teukka  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:21:19pm

re: #128 Teukka

*groans*

How is it even nearby equivalent?
Because the image of Ebba’s mutilated body is deliberately used to whip up hatred in people to the mild extent that they commit atrocities themselves. We will never get anywhere if we do not realize the steps of the radicalization process and counteract them. Including among our own.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:21:46pm

re: #128 Teukka

Damnit, do I have to teach everyone?

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What you call “immoral use” has effects. Such as it justifying extremists on the other side to commit atrocities, to ’ avenge ‘. Which more than likely is the purpose of the “immoral use”, to whip up hatred. Happened more than once in history that it/1
the trick was used. The Problem is that hate blinds and destroys judgement. You see things like threats that aren’t even close to being there, and act against the threats you think are there. With The right horrific results. An extremist is basically a person who is dependent /2
of hatred. In The case of ICE against “infidels”, in the case of extremists on the other side against Muslims and immigrants, in historical cases non-Aryan, Jews and other “Untermensch” (and we have not gotten rid of them completely yet). Extremism is the threat, whether Christians, Jews, Muslims, /3
Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, Swedes, immigrants or even Pastafarians. They have the very same capacity for atrocities, just the right excuse to start missing. Which is where the “immoral usage” of Ebba’s image comes in. It forms part of the apology /4
for those hate-addicted to get started and commit atrocities. The more you realize just that, basically extremists regardless of the superficial kind of the same scrap and barley, only at different stages, the easier it is to resist and deal with the problem. /5
Plus lots of other bonus effects, such as being able to see how some sorts of tricks pop up again and again through at least centuries in history (know myself some tricks that have been in use for 700 years, at least). And the vast majority of times have innocent blood flowed. /6
If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it. I just Hope that some time enough people learn to avoid thhat those who slept in the history lesson repeating history /FIN

I agree, but “the same scrap and barley?”

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:23:45pm

re: #137 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

I agree, but “the same scrap and barley?”

From “samma skrot och korn” (lit: “same scrap and barley”), meaning roughly same nuts and bolts that make them tick.
Forgive me, it’s 2:33 am local, and I do not have nearly enough caffeine in my system…
*grumbles and sips some cold coffee*

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:23:50pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

She oversaw the policies that her boss either ordered she put in place or signed off on. Let’s not act as though the camp commandant just came up with the whole thing on her own.

However “just following orders” is not a defense.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:23:56pm

Direct link to article from Washington Free Beacon (believe it or not)
Russian Group Offered Paramilitary Training to U.S. Neo-Nazis
FBI spied on contacts between Russian nationalists and Charlottesville rally organizers

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:24:42pm

re: #139 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

However “just following orders” is not a defense.

It’s a mutual thing here: She’s a monster, but she worked for a monster. Best we might argue is a matter of degree.

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:25:32pm

re: #140 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Direct link to article from Washington Free Beacon (believe it or not)
Russian Group Offered Paramilitary Training to U.S. Neo-Nazis
FBI spied on contacts between Russian nationalists and Charlottesville rally organizers

The “Partizan” outfit?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:26:03pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:27:58pm

Convince me they are not looking for ways to murder migrants and get away with it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:28:08pm

How things have changed. Why back when I was a kid if someone said there were Russians in America training Americans to fight against Americans it would have been a huge thing. Huge!

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piratedan  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:28:17pm

re: #107 nines09

Raspberries-Overnight Sensation

one of their lesser known, but still bleeping Brilliant tunes

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Citizen K  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:28:28pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because of course it’d be him. Miller is the one that wants a legitimate purge of the non-whites in this country.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:30:35pm
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Citizen K  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:30:48pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Convince me they are not looking for ways to murder migrants and get away with it.

Migrants nothing. Immigration is being used as a proxy for brown people in general.

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mmmirele  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:30:49pm

re: #147 Citizen K

Because of course it’d be him. Miller is the one that wants a legitimate purge of the non-whites in this country.

Miller is such a fool. He’s Jewish, he does not even realize that the same people who want the non-whites gone also want the Jews gone. Or he thinks he’ll be given a pass. That’s not what happened in Germany.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:31:22pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Convince me they are not looking for ways to murder migrants and get away with it.

They are getting away with murdering migrants right now and the MAGATS cheer as another one is killed.

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Citizen K  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:31:54pm

re: #150 mmmirele

Miller is such a fool. He’s Jewish, he does not even realize that the same people who want the non-whites gone also want the Jews gone. Or he thinks he’ll be given a pass. That’s not what happened in Germany.

It doesn’t matter. His hate blinds him to his own vulnerability. He thinks he’s inoculated by being one of the ‘good ones’.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:32:59pm

re: #146 piratedan

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Video

one of their lesser known, but still bleeping Brilliant tunes

Since you like ‘em, did you know the roots of the band came out of this earlier Cleveland band?

It’s Cold Outside - Old Cleveland Stuff

Edit: Didn’t realize the band wasn’t named: The Choir.

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:33:55pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:35:48pm

re: #113 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

While you’re checking out obscure spaceflight movies, have you seen Fritz Lang’s Woman in the Moon (Frau im Mond)? Filmed in 1929 (as a “serious” science fiction film, and I’ve always been fond of it.

And there’s Meliès’ A Trip to the Moon, which everyone should see.

Very familiar with Frau im Mond. It was a significant milestone in spaceflight history because it was really the first time the public had been exposed to serious, and technically valid, ideas about spaceflight. Hermann Oberth, author of the crucially influential pamphlet The Rocket into Planetary Space, was an advisor on the film.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:36:11pm

re: #19 Joe Bacon 🌹

She ought to be taking up a new position…in Leavenworth…

If only. Sadly, she won’t be held responsible for separating families (some permanently).

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stpaulbear  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:36:20pm

re: #98 nines09

Stumble across a song that I heard long ago and then we get……………………
The Full Album. Big Star- #1 Record (1972)
Damn

I found out about Big Star early enough to pick up used original promo copies of their first two albums. They’re both great records.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:37:39pm

re: #152 Citizen K

It doesn’t matter. His hate blinds him to his own vulnerability. He thinks he’s inoculated by being one of the ‘good ones’.

Never forget that sick freak’s BFF is Richard Spencer.

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Teukka  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:37:46pm

re: #142 Teukka

The “Partizan” outfit?

Yup. Partizan outfit. How many times have they popped up by now?

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piratedan  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:39:04pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

aye, I knew that half the band was stolen from The Choir and the band previous I believe was Cyrus Eyrie and while Bonfanti, Bryson and Smalley had been in various incarnations of the Cleveland scene, Carmen was something of the Boy Wonder, killer pipes, musically gifted and he swooned the ladies.

Like everyone else feels about that band that speaks to them, it feels like they were taking the songs directly from my own inner dialogue…

naturally everyone’s own band varies :-)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:39:58pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:45:26pm

re: #142 Teukka

The “Partizan” outfit?

Lyme Disease Militia.

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:45:32pm

re: #152 Citizen K

It doesn’t matter. His hate blinds him to his own vulnerability. He thinks he’s inoculated by being one of the ‘good ones’.

It could just as well be that he thinks that Jews are considered “white” enough to be spared. After all, his boss has a Jewish son-in-law and his daughter converted, and he frequently proclaims a love of Israel as a Jewish state. He could truly believe that the only beef that the wingnuts have is with “foreigners” and he as an American Jew is totally safe.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:53:34pm
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mmmirele  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:54:32pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

It could just as well be that he thinks that Jews are considered “white” enough to be spared. After all, his boss has a Jewish son-in-law and his daughter converted, and he frequently proclaims a love of Israel as a Jewish state. He could truly believe that the only beef that the wingnuts have is with “foreigners” and he as an American Jew is totally safe.

He’s delusional. It doesn’t take much digging in Trump’s right wing support to get down to Rothschilds, hook-nose Jews and the rest of the hateful anti-Semitic propaganda.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:55:59pm

re: #106 mmmirele

Well, I went out and stood in front of a church this afternoon with a sign calling out their pastor, who is on record as saying that women who have abortions should be executed. Turns out I fucked up. The pastor is in Salt Lake City, harassing the Mormons who go to General Conference. But I did get to yell at some of the people who came out to talk to me. I made it absolutely clear that I absolutely favor the lives of the women already born and living and I was just not going to give an inch to their “what about the unborn women?” cant.

I don’t think they liked me calling them a cult, but when FOUR OF THEM, at SEPARATE TIMES, came out and told me that “fetus” means “baby,” I think I’m justified in calling them a cult.* I think and hope they were startled when I shouted several times, “Jesus save us from your professional followers!” when they tried browbeating me. And of course I’m angry! Those people want to force women to be pregnant against their will! The piece de resistance was they told me I was going to hell. Good! If Calvin’s god (the one these people worship) is the one in charge, I WANT to go to hell. I would rather go to hell than worship an evil being like that, who, according to their own teachings, condemns people to hell before they’re even born!

There will probably be a video of Angry Me. I was also very angry some times when picketing the Scientologists, so just because I was angry with the pro-life church doesn’t mean I am angry with God. I’m just angry at their stupidity and, well, cultishness.

*I mean, seriously, it was the same wording and everything. It was creepy as hell.

GOOD FOR YOU. Seriously. We all need to be angry about this. These people are trying to drag women and society in general back into a very dark time.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 7, 2019 • 5:56:59pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:00:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:00:38pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:02:44pm
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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:03:27pm
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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:04:12pm
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Romantic Heretic  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:05:37pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, he fired Himmler and put Rudolph Heydrich in charge.

Wonderful.

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mmmirele  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:06:48pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

GOOD FOR YOU. Seriously. We all need to be angry about this. These people are trying to drag women and society in general back into a very dark time.

Thank you, Charles. I really respect your opinion and this means a lot to me.

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:08:39pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:09:34pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Convince me they are not looking for ways to murder migrants and get away with it.

Not me. That’s exactly what they want to do. Ann Coulter even told them how. Invade Mexico.

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Skip Intro  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:10:32pm

re: #173 Romantic Heretic

So, he fired Himmler and put Rudolph Heydrich in charge.

Wonderful.

I don’t think the new guy will last long. The hardliners are really pissed about his selection.

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:12:29pm

re: #106 mmmirele

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:14:21pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

Trump is repeating what Miller probably told him, that the “country is full.” IIRC, it’s a talking point among nativists that there is no more room in the USA for people of a certain kind, because otherwise White Culture will be diluted or even eliminated.

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:14:23pm

re: #168 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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re: #177 Skip Intro

I don’t think the new guy will last long. The hardliners are really pissed about his selection.

He’ll really only be a puppet, because it will be Miller calling the shots.

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:15:50pm

I live in the inner mountain west. I’ve driven the lonely highways of Montana and Nevada, Wyoming, northern Arizona. The country is not full. In very many places surrounding my house for 500 miles in every direction, there’s a whole lot of nothing, bare expanses of land, rugged mountains, no houses or stores. There’s a 150 mile stretch of Interstate 70 in Utah where there are no gas stations.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:16:08pm

re: #180 Targetpractice

He’ll really only be a puppet, because it will be Miller calling the shots.

A puppet of the head puppet. It’s puppets all the way down.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:17:46pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:18:04pm

re: #181 teleskiguy

I live in the inner mountain west. I’ve driven the lonely highways of Montana and Nevada, Wyoming, northern Arizona. The country is not full. In very many places surrounding my house for 500 miles in every direction, there’s a whole lot of nothing, bare expanses of land, rugged mountains, no houses or stores. There’s a 150 mile stretch of Interstate 70 in Utah where there are no gas stations.

You want to see a country that’s “full”? Come to China. Try traveling anywhere on a national holiday, when the entire population is trying to go home or go sightseeing — at the same time!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:19:15pm

re: #183 Patricia Kayden

Many people are telling me Satan turned down the job, because signing an NDA was too much for him.

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Targetpractice  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:19:18pm

This isn’t the sort of government you expect to see in a functioning democracy where there is accountability and loyalty. This is the sort of government you expect to see a third world kleptocracy, where the few competent people are constantly in danger of being unseated by power-hungry bastards looking to empower themselves by destroying others.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:21:13pm

re: #186 Targetpractice

This isn’t the sort of government you expect to see in a functioning democracy where there is accountability and loyalty. This is the sort of government you expect to see a third world kleptocracy, where the few competent people are constantly in danger of being unseated by power-hungry bastards looking to empower themselves by destroying others.

Basically, Game of Thrones, but without the beheadings and supernatural murders (so far).

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William Lewis  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:27:34pm

re: #185 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Many people are telling me Satan turned down the job, because signing an NDA was too much for him.

Nah, he’s a lawful evil man of wealth and taste. Of course he would not get along with the chaotic neutral and chaotic evil thugs of this administration…

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:29:34pm

re: #179 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump is repeating what Miller probably told him, that the “country is full.” IIRC, it’s a talking point among nativists that there is no more room in the USA for people of a certain kind, because otherwise White Culture will be diluted or even eliminated.

Conservatives trying to control women by limiting their life choices to being mothers is all part of this too.

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jaunte  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:30:55pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:31:02pm

re: #189 jaunte

Conservatives trying to control women by limiting their life choices to being mothers is all part of this too.

Yes. They want the kind of control and social stratification seen in The Handmaid’s Tale.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:32:40pm

Time to head to the office. I can access LGF from there, too.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:36:42pm
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mmmirele  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:40:05pm

re: #181 teleskiguy

I live in the inner mountain west. I’ve driven the lonely highways of Montana and Nevada, Wyoming, northern Arizona. The country is not full. In very many places surrounding my house for 500 miles in every direction, there’s a whole lot of nothing, bare expanses of land, rugged mountains, no houses or stores. There’s a 150 mile stretch of Interstate 70 in Utah where there are no gas stations.

I drove a friend from Boston down I-15 in Utah once. He couldn’t believe how empty it was. What I told him then and I’ll repeat now is: yes, it’s empty, but there are water issues in the Intermountain West. We have to be careful about just putting people there willy nilly because the land isn’t really able to support a lot of people without careful resource planning.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:42:14pm

re: #181 teleskiguy

I live in the inner mountain west. I’ve driven the lonely highways of Montana and Nevada, Wyoming, northern Arizona. The country is not full. In very many places surrounding my house for 500 miles in every direction, there’s a whole lot of nothing, bare expanses of land, rugged mountains, no houses or stores. There’s a 150 mile stretch of Interstate 70 in Utah where there are no gas stations.

I’ve wondered how many people got stuck on that stretch in Utah because they just assumed there would be a gas station. I’ve done a few reasonably long drives…Phoenix to San Antonio, and Phoenix to Denver, and there is always a gas station every 60 to 70 miles. Driving that stretch in Utah is basically like driving through a Mars landscape, with the same amount of rest stops.

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:42:31pm

re: #194 mmmirele

I drove a friend from Boston down I-15 in Utah once. He couldn’t believe how empty it was. What I told him then and I’ll repeat now is: yes, it’s empty, but there are water issues in the Intermountain West. We have to be careful about just putting people there willy nilly because the land isn’t really able to support a lot of people without careful resource planning.

St. George. Las Vegas. Hell, even metro Phoenix. Those places shouldn’t even be there. But we wily humans, man…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:46:42pm

In wrestling news, Kofi Kingston is the new WWE champion tonight. He’s not the first colored world champion but the ones who came before him were of the lighter skinned variety like Dwayne Johnson and Roman Reigns.

Here’s Kofi:

His victory is overdue but noteworthy nevertheless. Also, he and I were born on the exact same day. Pretty cool.

Also, the crowd was going fucking nuts for him during most of the match, so that’s a good sign.

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:47:28pm

St. George, Utah. They’ve been building golf courses and retirement castles there for a number of years. It’s very arid there, nine inches of precipitation annually. We humans are not good at thinking things through like water management ahead of time.

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William Lewis  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:47:53pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

I keep thinking that I would love to retire to Bisbee, AZ, but one word stops me cold: water.

I can live with winter if that means never dying of thirst.

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Citizen K  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:52:31pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

In wrestling news, Kofi Kingston is the new WWE champion tonight. He’s not the first colored world champion but the ones who came before him were of the lighter skinned variety like Dwayne Johnson and Roman Reigns.

Here’s Kofi:

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His victory is overdue but noteworthy nevertheless. Also, he and I were born on the exact same day. Pretty cool.

Also, the crowd was going fucking nuts for him during most of the match, so that’s a good sign.

He is also the first unquestionably black WWE champion. While there have been other top-tier belts and other champions of color (The Rock is half-black, half-Samoan and his Samoan heritage often superseded his black heritage in promotion), Kofi is the first Black wrestler to hold the championship, the one with the longest lineage in the company.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:56:31pm

I can just imagine

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wrenchwench  Apr 7, 2019 • 6:57:48pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:00:35pm
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danarchy  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:00:41pm

re: #200 Citizen K

He is also the first unquestionably black WWE champion. While there have been other top-tier belts and other champions of color (The Rock is half-black, half-Samoan and his Samoan heritage often superseded his black heritage in promotion), Kofi is the first Black wrestler to hold the championship, the one with the longest lineage in the company.

I haven’t watched wrestling in forever, but didn’t Booker T have the championship for a while back in the 2000’s?

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:01:09pm
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Citizen K  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:02:39pm

re: #204 danarchy

I haven’t watched wrestling in forever, but didn’t Booker T have the championship for a while back in the 2000’s?

He had the WCW belt when the company still existed, and he had the ‘World Heavyweight Championship’, which was the WCW belt revived with an arrested lineage, for a while in the mid ’00s. He never held the WWE Title proper. Mark Henry also held the WHC belt in 2011, but again, that was a splinter belt, not THE WWE Title.

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:05:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:05:41pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #204 danarchy

I haven’t watched wrestling in forever, but didn’t Booker T have the championship for a while back in the 2000’s?

Yes, I forgot about that. Booker T was the World Heavyweight Champion for about four months in late 2006. He also held the world title in WCW for awhile, as did another black wrestler named Ron Simmons.

Also, Citizen K is right. The title Booker won in ‘06 was NOT the same one Kofi won tonight.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:07:28pm

I count myself lucky. I don’t have to deal with moronic family members.
(I cut them loose long ago)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:16:18pm

re: #209 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Find a cemetery dating back to the 1800s and count the number of graves for children aged 0-12. Heck, even graves since 1900.

People had gazilions of kids back then to ensure at least one or two survived childhood.

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:24:17pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:24:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:27:01pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:27:55pm

This makes me wonder if the first resignation letter we saw, dated last year, was the draft, using last years ‘almost resignation’ letter as a template

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:29:34pm

re: #195 Mike Lamb

I’ve wondered how many people got stuck on that stretch in Utah because they just assumed there would be a gas station. I’ve done a few reasonably long drives…Phoenix to San Antonio, and Phoenix to Denver, and there is always a gas station every 60 to 70 miles. Driving that stretch in Utah is basically like driving through a Mars landscape, with the same amount of rest stops.

It is also one of the most beautiful stretches of interstate in the country. Lots of stunning vistas of canyon country right off the highway.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:41:54pm

Interesting thread George Conway has assemble concerning the appointment of the Acting Secretary of DHS

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piratedan  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:45:31pm

re: #215 teleskiguy
reminds me that one of my favorite stretches of highway is from the Denver Metro Area through to Grand Junction, stunning vistas to be enjoyed that I’m sure you’re very familiar with :-)

although there are many great views even on the interstates, I would say that the drive down the Columbia River Gorge on I84(?) from Portland thru to The Dalles is exquisite to experience (with Multinomah falls, literally right off the Interstate) and down I81 thru the heart of the Shenandoah is also quite awesome imho.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:49:16pm

re: #212 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“threats and hazards” like asylum-seeking children and their parents.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2019 • 7:55:48pm

Well, so Zedushka and I were watching “Crazy Rich Asians” on Netflix and we got to the bao scene…

Z jumps up and yells I WANT KREPLACH RIGHT NOW! And he went to heat up the ones in the fridge.

I mean EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD has some kind of dumpling comfort food. Even the super ultra hyper obscene rich.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:00:17pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:01:19pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Well, so Zedushka and I were watching “Crazy Rich Asians” on Netflix and we got to the bao scene…

Z jumps up and yells I WANT KREPLACH RIGHT NOW! And he went to heat up the ones in the fridge.

I mean EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD has some kind of dumpling comfort food. Even the super ultra hyper obscene rich.

Back home it was pierogis every Friday smothered in butter and grilled diced onions…

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wrenchwench  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:02:47pm

re: #217 piratedan

[…]

although there are many great views even on the interstates, I would say that the drive down the Columbia River Gorge on I84(?) from Portland thru to The Dalles is exquisite to experience (with Multinomah falls, literally right off the Interstate)[…]

…driving along at sea level with an 11,000 ft. mountain on the right, with its toes under the freeway.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:05:03pm

Why I love watching Pirate games!

mlb.com

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William Lewis  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:05:20pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Well, so Zedushka and I were watching “Crazy Rich Asians” on Netflix and we got to the bao scene…

Z jumps up and yells I WANT KREPLACH RIGHT NOW! And he went to heat up the ones in the fridge.

I mean EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD has some kind of dumpling comfort food. Even the super ultra hyper obscene rich.

Local greasy spoon makes an exquisite chicken dumpling soup. Nom nom nom!

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teleskiguy  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:05:40pm

re: #217 piratedan

reminds me that one of my favorite stretches of highway is from the Denver Metro Area through to Grand Junction, stunning vistas to be enjoyed that I’m sure you’re very familiar with :-)

First drove that stretch of highway when I was 15. :)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:09:52pm

Here’s something for you metal workers and tech fans.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:16:21pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Well, so Zedushka and I were watching “Crazy Rich Asians” on Netflix and we got to the bao scene…

Z jumps up and yells I WANT KREPLACH RIGHT NOW! And he went to heat up the ones in the fridge.

I mean EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD has some kind of dumpling comfort food. Even the super ultra hyper obscene rich.

It’s probably why that Pixar short film, Bao, was such a hit.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:30:23pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:34:47pm

That single Raptor engine looks pretty powerful.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:37:31pm

So, Trump’s threatening to tank OUR economy if Mexico doesn’t stop the asylum seekers.

Great.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 7, 2019 • 8:51:09pm

Our country isn’t full

BUT

The White House is full of RepubliKKKlan Racists!

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sagehen  Apr 7, 2019 • 9:59:38pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Well, so Zedushka and I were watching “Crazy Rich Asians” on Netflix and we got to the bao scene…

Z jumps up and yells I WANT KREPLACH RIGHT NOW! And he went to heat up the ones in the fridge.

I mean EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD has some kind of dumpling comfort food. Even the super ultra hyper obscene rich.

Swedish meatballs all over the universe


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