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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:44:01am

Money Laundering and Tax Crimes sort of jump out.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:46:15am

JFC……

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Dave In Austin  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:47:01am

I’m going to the garage to bang on shit….. Fuck!

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KGxvi  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:48:36am

re: #1 jaunte

“Mr. President, for you safety we need to move you and your family to this room, please follow us… after you, sir…” cell door closes behind him. Agent into ear piece “we got ‘em.”

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:50:25am
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Citizen K  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:53:57am

re: #1 jaunte

Gee, I wonder why they’d be hollowing the Secret Service out in that case…huuuuhh….

Meanwhile the media will decide that a Dem statement taken out of context proves the illegitimacy of all the Dem party and report on that for the next two weeks, and this skirts under the radar despite all but wearing an ‘INVESTIGATE ME!’ sign….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:59:55am

So….

Trump uber Alles, eh?

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Skip Intro  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:00:35pm

re: #6 Citizen K

They’re not hollowing out anything. They’re clearing the way to install Trump people in all positions of power.

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lawhawk  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:00:40pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:01:44pm

According to what I read this morning, Undersecretary of Managment Claire Grady would become Acting Secretary of DHS, by statute, so it’s not surprising she’s out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:02:16pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

They’re not hollowing out anything. They’re clearing the way to install Trump people in all positions of power.

Speaking of, does an “Acting” Secretary or Director have the same authority that a proper senate confirmed one does?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:04:01pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of, does an “Acting” Secretary or Director have the same authority that a proper senate confirmed one does?

They’ll act as if they do.

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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:04:17pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of, does an “Acting” Secretary or Director have the same authority that a proper senate confirmed one does?

We can look forward to years if not decades of litigation hashed out over that very question. This administration is working to consolidate power in as few hands as possible and is removing persons who refuse unlawful orders.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:05:06pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

We can look forward to years if not decades of litigation hashed out over that very question. This administration is working to consolidate power in as few hands as possible and is removing persons who refuse unlawful orders.

“It Can’t Happen Here.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:09:41pm

I hope this DHS mess doesn’t fuck up my citizenship application.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:16:55pm

you know who this is for,

I Love Charlie Brown
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:17:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:19:07pm
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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:22:04pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:23:07pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of, does an “Acting” Secretary or Director have the same authority that a proper senate confirmed one does?

i’d guess they dont

i couldnt quote law or statue but if they did have the same authority why confirm anyone ever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:23:10pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:25:12pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And 40% of our nation is totally okay with this because “AT LEAST HE’S NOT A DEMOCRAT!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:25:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:27:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:28:45pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:30:22pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

What the hell is up with that??

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:30:52pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

What the hell is up with that??

more smoke

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:33:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:33:21pm
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Jay C  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:36:23pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

What the hell is up with that??

Hard to tell from that link, but most likely yet another of the Trump Administration’s attempts at (what I read was inaccurately referred to as) “court-packing”. Probably trying to ram another bunch of RW judges onto various Courts regardless of Senatorial opposition (?)

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Skip Intro  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:36:52pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of, does an “Acting” Secretary or Director have the same authority that a proper senate confirmed one does?

Sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:37:35pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:38:13pm

re: #20 Man, DangerMan

i’d guess they dont

i couldnt quote law or statue but if they did have the same authority why confirm anyone ever.

Because in the history of this country no one ever imagined that a thing like Trump could get elected and have 100% support of his party.

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Skip Intro  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:38:49pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yup, that’s exactly what’s happening.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:41:20pm

re: #28 jaunte

If the laptop wasn’t air-gapped, watch out.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:41:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:41:26pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:41:36pm

re: #34 Skip Intro

And nothing will be done about it. Not a god damn thing.

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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:41:53pm

re: #28 jaunte

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I’m not an IT professional, but I will say that dumbass needs to be read by the Riot Act by one. If you do not know the contents of a flash drive or a SD card, YOU DO NOT PLUG IT IN!

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:41:55pm

re: #28 jaunte

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Let me get this straight. A secret service agent got a usb thumb drive from a sketchy person and they just stuck it a computer and found it was downloading and installing files.

So, how much do they pay these guys???

Whatever, it is too much to be that stupid.

If anything, get an old pc that is not connected to anything else and let the thumb drive do its thing and watch what it loads.

But I bet real security IT techs have a way of reading that thumb drive without using a computer, just some kind of remote reader.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:42:57pm

re: #28 jaunte

Hello every IT professional anywhere — what say you?

Chris Wysopal
@WeldPond
So the Secret Service stuck Zhang’s thumbdrive into their computer. miamiherald.com

the secret service never heard of a sandbox?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:43:15pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:43:47pm

The people charged with our security are making mistakes that a tech-illiterate grandma does before she asks you to come over and “fix” her computer for the millionth time.

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Skip Intro  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:44:31pm

re: #38 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And nothing will be done about it. Not a god damn thing.

The Dems should be screaming at the top of their lungs about this. There’s nothing between Trump and the rule of law now but them.

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:45:16pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:45:55pm

re: #41 Man, DangerMan

the secret service never heard of a sandbox?

At a minimum, you use a sacrificial computer that is air-gapped and sandboxed.

Ideally, these folks should have physically transported the thumb drive to the Puzzle Palace.

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Skip Intro  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:51:59pm

re: #41 Man, DangerMan

the secret service never heard of a sandbox?

Do we know the computer wasn’t sandboxed?

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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:52:38pm

We won’t even get GOP Congresscritters faking “concern” because they’ll declare that it’s totally within Donny’s power to fire people at will, so they’ll just sit back and assume that he’s going to totally follow the law by sending them nominees for replacements in a timely fashion.

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lawhawk  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:53:11pm

re: #46 Eric The Fruit Bat

You don’t put a thumb drive of unknown origin into contact with a secure system. You make sure you have it isolated and unnetworked to prevent any kind of malware from entering your computer systems.

This is basic stuff.

You know, like how the Cylons ended up completely taking over and shutting down the Colonial networks and leaving all their shiny weapons, battlestars, and defense grid inoperative during a massive attack.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:54:29pm
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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:54:34pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Malcom should also be calling for protests. There’s only so much Pelosi and Schumer can do.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:58:43pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Part of our IT Security training emphasized that you should NEVER, EVER plug in a thumb drive you just found someplace.

My first thought was, “Who does that?” Seems like on of those obviously stupid things. But apparently it’s a popular way to infect systems.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2019 • 12:59:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:00:52pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:01:31pm

re: #47 Skip Intro

Do we know the computer wasn’t sandboxed?

not as such - just idly speculating as we always do

the way it was written:
plugged into “his computer” and “stop the analysis to halt any further corruption of his computer”
and no mention of any sort of ‘we knew what we were doing and had adequate precautions in place’

and the fact that this is a story at all

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:04:56pm

This is all a nightmare right?

I’m going to wake up soon in a world where Hilary Clinton is President and Donald Trump is in prison.

Right?

//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:05:28pm

re: #55 Man, DangerMan

not as such - just idly speculating as we always do

the way it was written:
plugged into “his computer” and “stop the analysis to halt any further corruption of his computer”
and no mention of any sort of ‘we knew what we were doing and had adequate precautions in place’

and the fact that this is a story at all

You’d think (and hope) they’d have a burner machine to use for such purposes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:06:07pm

re: #55 Man, DangerMan

not as such - just idly speculating as we always do

the way it was written:
plugged into “his computer” and “stop the analysis to halt any further corruption of his computer”
and no mention of any sort of ‘we knew what we were doing and had adequate precautions in place’

and the fact that this is a story at all

Not an IT guy here, but it seems to me that if you want to figure out what’s on a thumb drive, because you think it might be Bad Shit, you have computers configured for just that. Airgapped, sandboxed, no wi-fi card, no ethernet ports, do it all inside a Faraday Cage. You’d plug it into them and watch what happens. You don’t say, “Gee, what happens to my computer if I plug this in?”

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William Lewis  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:06:56pm

The real problem is that they’re probably running the version of the day of Windows and that’s what the drive is designed to attack.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:07:03pm

re: #40 ObserverArt

But I bet real security IT techs have a way of reading that thumb drive without using a computer, just some kind of remote reader.

Depending on the sophistication of the malware, the ‘perp’ may be able to get around whatever device the thumb drive is plugged into - don’t forget what we did to fsck-up the Iranian nuclear centrifuges.

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William Lewis  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:13:07pm

I was playing Warframe earlier and thinking, Self, why do I just give Windows a chance instead of this dual booting pain inthe MBR? Alas, Self, this security FUBAR by the Feds is a really good example for the Nope case.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:14:58pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Not an IT guy here, but it seems to me that if you want to figure out what’s on a thumb drive, because you think it might be Bad Shit, you have computers configured for just that. Airgapped, sandboxed, no wi-fi card, no ethernet ports, do it all inside a Faraday Cage. You’d plug it into them and watch what happens. You don’t say, “Gee, what happens to my computer if I plug this in?”

If I find a thumb drive, it’s a quiet crunch underfoot, then the trash.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:15:32pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Not an IT guy here, but it seems to me that if you want to figure out what’s on a thumb drive, because you think it might be Bad Shit, you have computers configured for just that. Airgapped, sandboxed, no wi-fi card, no ethernet ports, do it all inside a Faraday Cage. You’d plug it into them and watch what happens. You don’t say, “Gee, what happens to my computer if I plug this in?”

this is where i was going
if we know this …. these are the effing professionals.

ok i guess they’re not

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:17:11pm

re: #62 Unshaken Defiance

If I find a thumb drive, it’s a quiet crunch underfoot, then the trash.

they give em away at trade shows - with corporate logos on them (so they must be safe, right?)

and people just take em home and plug em in…..

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:18:42pm

re: #61 William Lewis

I was playing Warframe earlier and thinking, Self, why do I just give Windows a chance instead of this dual booting pain inthe MBR? Alas, Self, this security FUBAR by the Feds is a really good example for the Nope case.

You’re allowing the Secret Service to plug flash drives into your computer?

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:21:59pm

Ranting and raving.

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William Lewis  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:22:18pm

(Should have been to#65)

Just a comment on the reality that from NT4.0 onward, MS chose to make an inherently insecure OS. That is when video games became more important than security and the video system was allowed access to Ring 0 undoing everything Dave Cutler had imported from VMS.

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:22:24pm
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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:23:07pm

Judge jails border agent for contempt.

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Jay C  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:23:12pm

re: #62 Unshaken Defiance

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Not an IT guy here, but it seems to me that if you want to figure out what’s on a thumb drive, because you think it might be Bad Shit, you have computers configured for just that. Airgapped, sandboxed, no wi-fi card, no ethernet ports, do it all inside a Faraday Cage. You’d plug it into them and watch what happens. You don’t say, “Gee, what happens to my computer if I plug this in?”

If I find a thumb drive, it’s a quiet crunch underfoot, then the trash.

However, this reminds me of the episode of Big Bang Theory where, having mined two whole bitcoins, Sheldon loaded them onto a flash drive for “safekeeping”, which drive he promptly lost.

Which Stuart finds while sweeping up the comic-book store, and pockets: with the closing line of “better be sure to erase this”….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:25:14pm

re: #68 jaunte

Because “Sorry, we don’t have the room” is an iron clad legal defense.

Fucker.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:25:46pm

re: #70 Jay C

I remember that. Great episode.

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:26:38pm

re: #68 jaunte

I will buy any judge dinner that laughs out loud at that.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:30:25pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Because “Sorry, we don’t have the room” is an iron clad legal defense.

Fucker.

the man’s a melonhead

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wrenchwench  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:31:24pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Because “Sorry, we don’t have the room” is an iron clad legal defense.

Fucker.

It’s a classic, still in use at many motels. At least, the ones that aren’t saying, ‘Sure, put all your data right here and we’ll call ICE. They’ll pay us once for each of you’. (That was Motel 6.)

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plansbandc  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:32:14pm

Good read…

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:32:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:33:42pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:36:32pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

[And this tweet goes into the vault for use later.]

They all do. Or, most.

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:40:27pm

And Eric Erickson sells himself as some kind of a good Christian too, right?

If there is smiting to be done, there is going to be a hell of a lot of it.

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:43:01pm
Growing up in the so-called People’s Republic of Santa Monica as the son of well-off Jewish Democrats—his father was a lawyer and real-estate investor, his mother a homemaker—Miller was uninitiated in conservative thought. But the magazine piqued his curiosity. Guns & Ammo led him to Wayne LaPierre’s book Guns, Crime, and Freedom, which he devoured, enraptured by the blunt force of the author’s prose. (“Clearly, the Warsaw ghetto stands in history as a shining example of the dangers of gun control.”) “I remember thinking to myself, If what I believe is true is so wrong on these issues … what else could I be wrong about?,” Miller told me.
theatlantic.com

Stephen Miller is an idiot/troll.

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:45:05pm

re: #81 jaunte

Stephen Miller is an idiot/troll.

“You know folks, if your root case is false, induction fails.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:46:58pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

And Eric Erickson sells himself as some kind of a good Christian too, right?

If there is smiting to be done, there is going to be a hell of a lot of it.

The problem with being a nonbeliever is the understanding that if you’re right, there won’t ever be a moment when Jesus says to the likes of Erickson, “Did you think I was kidding, when I told you that whole thing about ‘what you do to the least of these, you do to me’?”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:47:53pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

And Eric Erickson sells himself as some kind of a good Christian too, right?

If there is smiting to be done, there is going to be a hell of a lot of it.

Uh, he’s really a “KKKristian”!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:50:00pm

re: #81 jaunte

“Clearly, the Warsaw ghetto stands in history as a shining example of the dangers of gun control.”

I thought they HAD guns, but lacked things like tanks, and an army, and a nearly endless supply of young Nazis willing to die but even more willing to kill?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:50:11pm

re: #55 Man, DangerMan

not as such - just idly speculating as we always do

the way it was written:
plugged into “his computer” and “stop the analysis to halt any further corruption of his computer”
and no mention of any sort of ‘we knew what we were doing and had adequate precautions in place’

and the fact that this is a story at all

I wouldn’t assume anything because:

A.) That story has four different bylines and lacks basic details about the computer setup and specific protocol used in the analysis.

B.) The Secret Service is actively under attack by Trump, who has a motive to blame them after hamstringing their effectiveness by forcing visits to his palace of corruption where their authority over access control is severely curtailed.

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:51:47pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

The ignorance should be embarrassing, but he’s drunk with power now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:52:04pm

re: #86 goddamnedfrank

upding for “Palace of Corruption”. Sounds like a good name for an HBO series or something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:52:37pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

I thought they HAD guns, but lacked things like tanks, and an army, and a nearly endless supply of young Nazis willing to die but even more willing to kill?

and an unending supply of ammo

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:57:12pm

re: #87 jaunte

The ignorance should be embarrassing, but he’s drunk with power now.

One does begin to wonder whether future generations will ponder whether, if you invent a time machine, you should use it to go back and kill Baby Miller.

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 1:59:52pm

Did anyone post the speech Mayor Pete gave yesterday where he talked about being open about being gay and why he came out, etc.?

Wow. Pete can put things in perspective.

I am not sold on him as a candidate, but as a fellow human being, I’m glad to share this planet with him.

I can see why he is growing in popularity. He is easy to listen to and he can get to the point very effectively. He is going to be something in the Democratic party for sure.

Mayor Pete Buttigieg Opens Up About His Sexuality On Campaign Trail | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:01:11pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

I can’t watch it at work but I’m sure “No, I’m not gay, but here’s my husband” probably wouldn’t work.

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mmmirele  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:01:22pm

re: #52 Blind Frog Belly White

Part of our IT Security training emphasized that you should NEVER, EVER plug in a thumb drive you just found someplace.

My first thought was, “Who does that?” Seems like on of those obviously stupid things. But apparently it’s a popular way to infect systems.

I’m shivering in a lobby, witing for the docs to be done with an endoscopy and colonoscopy on my brother. It’s cold, but I’m shivering because the idea of plugging in an unknown jump drive is giving me the willies. The regulators would come down hard on us and they’d be right to do so.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:02:11pm

re: #93 mmmirele

I’m shivering in a lobby, witing for the docs to be done with an endoscopy and colonoscopy on my brother. It’s cold, but I’m shivering because the idea of plugging in an unknown jump drive is giving me the willies. The regulators would come down hard on us and they’d be right to do so.

“Hey, what’s the worst that could happen?”

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:04:41pm

I feel like posting this just because…

Official Logo for The Trump Administration’s Homeland Insecurity Department
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:06:09pm

re: #94 Blind Frog Belly White

“Hey, what’s the worst that could happen?”

The jump drive grabs your computer by the pussy?

/

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:06:15pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

One does begin to wonder whether future generations will ponder whether, if you invent a time machine, you should use it to go back and kill Baby Miller.

I hope they will be very careful. I work with a guy with the same name and he is quite alright - not racist, bigoted, or evil.

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:07:20pm

re: #97 Jebediah, RBG

I hope they will be very careful. I work with a guy with the same name and he is quite alright - not racist, bigoted, or evil.

Don’t want to go the Terminator route?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:07:58pm

re: #97 Jebediah, RBG

I hope they will be very careful. I work with a guy with the same name and he is quite alright - not racist, bigoted, or evil.

So, not taking the “Sarah Conner?” *BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!!! BLAMBLAM!!!* approach?

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Sir John Barron  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:08:03pm

re: #66 jaunte

Ranting and raving.

This is fine, everything is f

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:08:44pm

re: #98 Belafon

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

Great minds and all that.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:09:01pm

re: #98 Belafon

It’s been too long since I have seen it so I don’t remember what that was.

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wrenchwench  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:10:18pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

Did anyone post the speech Mayor Pete gave yesterday where he talked about being open about being gay and why he came out, etc.?

Wow. Pete can put things in perspective.

I am not sold on him as a candidate, but as a fellow human being, I’m glad to share this planet with him.

I can see why he is growing in popularity. He is easy to listen to and he can get to the point very effectively. He is going to be something in the Democratic party for sure.

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So long as he keeps campaigning against Pence, I’m all for it. We need the best campaigner against Trump, and I don’t think he’s it. I’m still watching.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:11:27pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:11:51pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

So, not taking the “Sarah Conner?” *BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!!! BLAMBLAM!!!* approach?

For my friend’s sake, I propose not taking that approach at all. Maybe something a little more precisely targeted?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:11:56pm

re: #102 Jebediah, RBG

It’s been too long since I have seen it so I don’t remember what that was.

1) Tear the page out of the telephone book with all the S. Conners.

2) Knock on doors.

3) Shoot the hell out of anyone who answers “Yes” to “Sarah Conner?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:12:36pm

me either

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Jay C  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:12:43pm

re: #81 jaunte

Stephen Miller is an idiot/troll.

No shit! (“Clearly, the Warsaw ghetto stands in history as a shining example of the dangers of gun control.”)

So, instead of being simply painted as a danger to the country, society and the world, the Nazis should have had the opportunity to paint the Jews as an ARMED danger to the country, society and the world? Brilliant thinking….

And never mind that the Germans were only stopped in their wars of conquest by the mass intervention of actual armies, not haphazard civilian militias….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:14:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:15:11pm

re: #105 Jebediah, RBG

For my friend’s sake, I propose not taking that approach at all. Maybe something a little more precisely targeted?

Well, it’s a theoretical conversation taking place between people who haven’t been born yet, but since I’m positing it, I’ll allow for precise targetting.

In good science fiction, the time travellers would know which Stephen Miller to target. But then his grief-stricken parents would adopt another kid who turned out to fuck up the world even worse.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:15:12pm

re: #106 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah ok thanks. Seems the technology that allows a killer robot to time travel would also let him take back some pictures and maybe medical records - I do remember that in the bar “give me your cloze” scene he was doing all kinds of scanning. Bet he could have matched dental records to teeth on the fly. Maybe store the data on a handy USB drive?

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:15:40pm
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Jay C  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:16:46pm

re: #111 Jebediah, RBG

Ah ok thanks. Seems the technology that allows a killer robot to time travel would also let him take back some pictures and maybe medical records - I do remember that in the bar “give me your cloze” scene he was doing all kinds of scanning. Bet he could have matched dental records to teeth on the fly. Maybe store the data on a handy USB drive?

A thumb drive?
Though for The Terminator it would probably actually be his thumb….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:17:46pm

re: #111 Jebediah, RBG

Ah ok thanks. Seems the technology that allows a killer robot to time travel would also let him take back some pictures and maybe medical records - I do remember that in the bar “give me your cloze” scene he was doing all kinds of scanning. Bet he could have matched dental records to teeth on the fly. Maybe store the data on a handy USB drive?

In the Terminator universe, the records didn’t survive. SkyNet only knew that John Conner’s mother’s name was Sarah and she lived in LA, and John was born in about 1986.

But of course, if they hadn’t sent the Terminator back to kill her, Kyle Reese would never have fathered John Conner in the first place.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:17:53pm

re: #108 Jay C

No shit! (“Clearly, the Warsaw ghetto stands in history as a shining example of the dangers of gun control.”)

So, instead of being simply painted as a danger to the country, society and the world, the Nazis should have had the opportunity to paint the Jews as an ARMED danger to the country, society and the world? Brilliant thinking….

And never mind that the Germans were only stopped in their wars of conquest by the mass intervention of actual armies, not haphazard civilian militias….

The Germans also exterminated villages if there was partisan resistance. See Operation Anthropoid….

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:18:06pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

Sadly, probably true.
I guess the only real solution is to GOTV.

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:18:43pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

me either

I wonder if there’s a way for a white male candidate, if he wins, to nominate a woman VP, and then go the Stainless Steel Rat route, and either resign due to unforseen health issues, or just suddenly “die” not too long after the inauguration?

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Jack Burton  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:19:04pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

Although I like him and several other Democrats that have decided to run and they would all be awesome in a normal election and term, the election of 2020 and the years following it will be neither. I’m not getting a good feeling about it either.

Whoever the next Democratic president is has an almost unfathomable mess to clean up. Not just domestic policy, not just immigration, not just the environment. The Clownstick presidency has been a complete foreign policy disaster. Nobody running, at least in my perception, seems to realize this, or if they do, don’t seem to get how much of an uphill battle it will be to fix things. How much trust has been lost toward the US from our allies. There’s a big hole to fill and we aren’t going to be able to make much progress of other things until that hole is filled and safeguards are put in place to prevent this from happening again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:19:28pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

In the Terminator universe, the records didn’t survive. SkyNet only knew that John Conner’s mother’s name was Sarah and she lived in LA, and John was born in about 1986.

But of course, if they hadn’t sent the Terminator back to kill her, Kyle Reese would never have fathered John Conner in the first place.

As an aside, I wonder how many kids today, watching Terminator for the first time, would wonder what the fuck that little booth he walks into is, and what’s that book he’s tearing pages out of?

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:20:23pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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me either

It’s just like popular radio.

You only hear the hits, whether they are or not.

The good stuff is underground.

As much as the internet can piss me off, it very well may be a savior come this election. Just like it all helped Trump, this time I am hoping it helps to be Trump’s downfall.

If the Democrats play it right, they can create the buzz on the ‘net that leads the media to cover them. Again, as Trump did. His tweets drove the last election even if that thought makes we want to hurl.

I sure hope there are some very savvy internet and social media content “news” creators working in the DNC and on the campaigns.

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:20:53pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

In the Terminator universe, the records didn’t survive. SkyNet only knew that John Conner’s mother’s name was Sarah and she lived in LA, and John was born in about 1986.

But of course, if they hadn’t sent the Terminator back to kill her, Kyle Reese would never have fathered John Conner in the first place.

The one think I really liked about the third Terminator movie is that they implied that, no matter how hard they tried, the rise of the machines was inevitable, no matter how much monkeying was being done. The corolary to that is that John Connors would beat the machines, no matter how much history was changed.

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:22:05pm
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plansbandc  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:22:25pm

re: #117 Belafon

Ooh! A Stainless Steel Rat reference.

Netflix should do a series, damn it.

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:23:00pm

re: #118 Jack Burton

They will have to do what they can, especially given that a large number of people don’t think anything is wrong right now.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:23:05pm

re: #113 Jay C

A thumb drive?
Though for The Terminator it would probably actually be his thumb….

A thumb drive indeed. A Terminator in teh habit of plugging in thumb drives could be brought down by a Mar-A-Lago special, although it would make for a less dramatic, spectacular final scene.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:23:48pm

re: #108 Jay C

No shit! (“Clearly, the Warsaw ghetto stands in history as a shining example of the dangers of gun control.”)

So, instead of being simply painted as a danger to the country, society and the world, the Nazis should have had the opportunity to paint the Jews as an ARMED danger to the country, society and the world? Brilliant thinking….

And never mind that the Germans were only stopped in their wars of conquest by the mass intervention of actual armies, not haphazard civilian militias….

American Revolution mythology.

As my Military History prof used to say, that ‘Grandpappy got mad at them British and grabbed his Pennsylvania rifle off the mantle’. He’d then point out that we didn’t start winning till we started training like an actual army (think Valley Forge and Gen. von Steuben), and that Yorktowne was a classic siege carried out largely under French blockade, and the siege engineer was the grandson of the most famous of European siege engineers, Vauban.

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wrenchwench  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:24:34pm

re: #119 Blind Frog Belly White

As an aside, I wonder how many kids today, watching Terminator for the first time, would wonder what the fuck that little booth he walks into is, and what’s that book he’s tearing pages out of?

Yeah, they had these booths where they would keep the phone and the book, you know, the thing with the paper ‘pages’, and you had to LOOK UP each number, the phone couldn’t remember anything, not even the last number you ‘dialed’…

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:26:00pm

re: #127 wrenchwench

Yeah, they had these booths where they would keep the phone and the book, you know, the thing with the paper ‘pages’, and you had to LOOK UP each number, the phone couldn’t remember anything, not even the last number you ‘dialed’…

“You know, that place Captain Marvel hacked to try to get in touch with the Kree at, where Furfy first met her.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:26:44pm

re: #125 Jebediah, RBG

A thumb drive indeed. A Terminator in teh habit of plugging in thumb drives could be brought down by a Mar-A-Lago special, although it would make for a less dramatic, spectacular final scene.

He starts running really slowly, and randomly offering to sell you male enhancement products and weight loss schemes.

Finally, he ends up stuck in a Windows Update “Don’t Turn Off Your Murder Robot!” loop, unable to reboot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:28:05pm

re: #127 wrenchwench

Yeah, they had these booths where they would keep the phone and the book, you know, the thing with the paper ‘pages’, and you had to LOOK UP each number, the phone couldn’t remember anything, not even the last number you ‘dialed’…

“Why didn’t he just look her up on HIS phone?”

Also,

“Dialed?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:29:07pm

re: #128 Belafon

“You know, that place Captain Marvel hacked to try to get in touch with the Kree at, where Furfy first met her.”

I know it’s a typo, but “Nick Furfy, Agent of Shield” suggests a very different character.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:29:35pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

In the Terminator universe, the records didn’t survive. SkyNet only knew that John Conner’s mother’s name was Sarah and she lived in LA, and John was born in about 1986.

But of course, if they hadn’t sent the Terminator back to kill her, Kyle Reese would never have fathered John Conner in the first place.

Oh, I see.
Since I didn’t remember that either, I assumed that by the time Skynet started killing us, they would have preserved all computerized records and that by the time John Conner was an early teen fewer records would be paper only.
I should probably do my actual work instead of poking around at movies I can’t remember any details of…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:30:04pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:31:09pm

Well, with DT “governing” by tweet, it makes it hard to keep up. Jennifer Rubin has another good essay today. I think she may really stay Woke.

Kirstjen Nielsen’s legacy of cruelty and incompetence is sealed.

There is little doubt that no matter how draconian her policies and disingenuous her answers to Congress about the family separation debacle, Nielsen could never be as grotesquely cruel or as dismissive of existing law as her boss demanded.

And that was before he just went through DHS and SS with a scythe.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:31:58pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, it’s a theoretical conversation taking place between people who haven’t been born yet, but since I’m positing it, I’ll allow for precise targetting.

In good science fiction, the time travellers would know which Stephen Miller to target. But then his grief-stricken parents would adopt another kid who turned out to fuck up the world even worse.

So our only hope would be that it wasn’t his environment that made him what he is - that he was born to be an evil shit stain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:32:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:35:14pm

for the no shit file

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:37:41pm

re: #132 Jebediah, RBG

Oh, I see.
Since I didn’t remember that either, I assumed that by the time Skynet started killing us, they would have preserved all computerized records and that by the time John Conner was an early teen fewer records would be paper only.
I should probably do my actual work instead of poking around at movies I can’t remember any details of…

Terminator has largely become a period piece. It took place before anyone had heard of the internet, so the idea that SkyNet would have access to all that information hadn’t occurred to anyone. Like most stuff in the era before PCs were everywhere, SkyNet was envisioned as a massive mainframe, tasked with defending the US from Soviet nuclear attack, so what it had access to was presumably just sattelite and radar feeds, maybe a little news.

In later Terminator movies, SkyNet became an entity that lived on the web. I think it might have started out on one computer, but once conscious it spread across the whole internet.

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:41:08pm

Thread:

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:43:16pm

re: #129 Blind Frog Belly White

Perfect!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:45:09pm

re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White

Terminator has largely become a period piece. It took place before anyone had heard of the internet, so the idea that SkyNet would have access to all that information hadn’t occurred to anyone. Like most stuff in the era before PCs were everywhere, SkyNet was envisioned as a massive mainframe, tasked with defending the US from Soviet nuclear attack, so what it had access to was presumably just sattelite and radar feeds, maybe a little news.

In later Terminator movies, SkyNet became an entity that lived on the web. I think it might have started out on one computer, but once conscious it spread across the whole internet.

In the 1970 movie “Colossus; the Forbin Project”, Colossus has to demand that cameras be installed to constantly watch his creator, who is required to always stay within range of the cameras, or Colossus will drop a nuke somewhere. And of course, Colossus is an enormous mainframe tucked into an impenetrable mountain somewhere. It couldn’t be destroyed there because 1) the place was designed to be impenetrable and 2) Colossus insisted on even more steps to keep it safe.

Today, it would be a web-based intelligence that can’t be destroyed because it’s everywhere and nowhere. In fact there was that Johnny Depp movie based on that idea.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:47:21pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:47:33pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:48:30pm

Lime inc. has withdrawn its surviving scooters from Lubbock (but they’ll be back).

City unveils plans to prevent post-championship game riot activities

Plans have been put in place by city officials and businesses to prevent any post-NCAA championship game celebrations from getting out of hand.

The catalyst for these preparations was a Saturday night riot that included a couch burning, a bonfire made of electric scooters and people flipping over a car. All this activity came after the Texas Tech men’s basketball team won it’s Final Four game against Michigan State, which advanced the team into the NCAA Finals.

Tech is now set to play Virginia at 8:20 p.m. in Minneapolis, Minnesota in the NCAA Finals, which is the cause for the increased security.

In anticipation of any sort of raucous behavior, the electric scooter rental company, Lime, has released a statement and said its entire fleet has been removed from Lubbock. The scooters will be back on the street early Tuesday morning.

“While we too are excited and proud of Texas Tech’s victory and tournament run, we also share the city of Lubbock’s concerns for public safety,” a Lime spokesperson told KCBD. “In anticipation of tonight’s big game, we have pulled our fleet from the streets before it commences, and will re-deploy scooters after activities subside early Tuesday morning.”

Elsewhere, Lubbock police and fire marshals will be rounding up any car-flippers and scooter-torchers they can find.
Warning from Lubbock police chief, charges of riot and arson can be filed

As for Saturday, Stevens said police did not immediately arrest people because that can be dangerous and make a crowd become hostile. Instead, the police will rely on images, videos and other evidence to file charges after-the-fact.

“We’re not going to tolerate that kind of criminal behavior,” Stevens said.

You know, it takes a special kind of stupid to commit arson and vandalism right in front of hundreds of cell-phone cameras.

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Jay C  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:50:12pm

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You know, it takes a special kind of stupid to commit arson and vandalism right in front of hundreds of cell-phone cameras.

Or more likely, the facile assumption of a sort of mob “herd immunity”…

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:51:06pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:52:32pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meghan informs Joy Behar “part of your job is to listen to me” and Joy… does not take it well 😂

actually no
part of joy’s job is to shut up now and then and let you yammer some twaddle
she dont gotta listen

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:54:54pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, it’s a theoretical conversation taking place between people who haven’t been born yet, but since I’m positing it, I’ll allow for precise targetting.

In good science fiction, the time travellers would know which Stephen Miller to target. But then his grief-stricken parents would adopt another kid who turned out to fuck up the world even worse.

11.22.63 - If you do something that really fucks with the past, the past fucks with you.

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Skip Intro  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:55:27pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:55:28pm

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Lime inc. has withdrawn its surviving scooters from Lubbock (but they’ll be back).

City unveils plans to prevent post-championship game riot activities

Elsewhere, Lubbock police and fire marshals will be rounding up any car-flippers and scooter-torchers they can find.
Warning from Lubbock police chief, charges of riot and arson can be filed

You know, it takes a special kind of stupid to commit arson and vandalism right in front of hundreds of cell-phone cameras.

Only takes alcohol and a crowd egging you on. But yeah, that is stupid. Though I don’t think it is special, it may be all too common.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:57:52pm

re: #118 Jack Burton

Although I like him and several other Democrats that have decided to run and they would all be awesome in a normal election and term, the election of 2020 and the years following it will be neither. I’m not getting a good feeling about it either.

Whoever the next Democratic president is has an almost unfathomable mess to clean up. Not just domestic policy, not just immigration, not just the environment. The Clownstick presidency has been a complete foreign policy disaster. Nobody running, at least in my perception, seems to realize this, or if they do, don’t seem to get how much of an uphill battle it will be to fix things. How much trust has been lost toward the US from our allies. There’s a big hole to fill and we aren’t going to be able to make much progress of other things until that hole is filled and safeguards are put in place to prevent this from happening again.

harder even if we dont win the senate

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 2:58:15pm

re: #149 Skip Intro

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:00:56pm

re: #152 jaunte

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Stephen Miller speaks to Trump.

Trump listens because he likes what Stephen says.

Miller is a dangerous ass, but Trump makes him so by letting him get his way. Because Donny Trump likes what Stephen does.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:01:57pm

Facebook is a goddamned trash fire.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:02:33pm

I’m towards the end, in the gorilla suit.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:07:13pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation says the computer in question was a controlled, off-network device in the Secret Service’s Miami Field Office. Source says never any risk to the agency’s computer network with regard to this thumb drive.

so assuming this is true, then like GDFrank said, not very good reporting

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:09:18pm

It’s always something with Trump. He’s messing with some big money people when he messes with the owners of Major League Baseball Teams.

ESPN - White House scuttles MLB’s Cuban agreement

The Trump administration scuttled Major League Baseball’s historic agreement with the Cuban Baseball Federation, arguing that the sport’s governing body is part of the Cuban government and that the agreement violates United States trade law.

In December, MLB and the MLB Players Association announced an agreement with the Cuban federation similar to those for players under contract to clubs in Japan, South Korea and Taiwan — one the league believed would end the defection of players and erase the human trafficking of Cuban players that has become the standard as they attempt to join MLB.

The Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control sent a letter to MLB on Friday that said “payments to the Cuban Baseball Federation are not authorized … because a payment to the Cuban Baseball Federation is a payment to the Cuban government.”

The letter, obtained by ESPN, underscored the reversal of an Obama-era policy that intended to soften relations between the U.S. and Cuba.

After announcing the agreement in December, blowback in Washington prompted MLB to outline in a 10-page letter its argument in favor of the agreement.

“The objective,” MLB said, “is to end the dangerous trafficking of Cuban baseball players who desire to play professional baseball in the United States.”

MLB requested a meeting with government officials, though no meeting was granted, sources told ESPN.

The letter to from OFAC to Major League Baseball came in the immediate aftermath of the Cuban federation releasing its first group of players able to sign contracts directly with MLB organizations, with the understanding that some could be playing in the U.S. this year. The players were eligible for signing bonuses, with the player receiving 100 percent of his signing bonus and the club giving the Cuban federation a release fee equivalent to 25 percent of the signing bonus.

The White House signaled its concern on Sunday when President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, tweeted “Cuba wants to use baseball players as economic pawns - selling their rights to Major League Baseball.”

In a statement to ESPN, MLB said: “We stand by the goal of the agreement, which is to end the human trafficking of baseball players from Cuba.”

…more at link…

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:14:42pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:15:26pm

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“The catalyst for these preparations was a Saturday night riot that included a couch burning, a bonfire made of electric scooters and people flipping over a car.”

For some reason, I first read that as “riot that included a coach burning” and I was like: “Damnnnnn….”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:17:37pm

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

“The catalyst for these preparations was a Saturday night riot that included a couch burning, a bonfire made of electric scooters and people flipping over a car.”

For some reason, I first read that as “riot that included a coach burning” and I was like: “Damnnnnn….”

Nah, that’s for when they lose……

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:18:00pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

It’s always something with Trump. He’s messing with some big money people when he messes with the owners of Major League Baseball Teams.

ESPN - White House scuttles MLB’s Cuban agreement

I wonder if he’s thinking a lot of the owners will side with him like with the NFL anthem kneeling thing…or maybe he just fucking hates Cubans?

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jaunte  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:20:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:21:50pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

ARE THERE NO ATTICS??!!??

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Chrysicat  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:26:42pm
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fern01  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:27:24pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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me either

Searching for something I ended up on NYT Maggie’s twitter. Checked the last many tweets and the only dem candidates mentioned were Bernie, Pete and Beto. Seems like 2016 all over again.

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William Lewis  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:27:56pm

re: #152 jaunte

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I look at that face and I want to rent a Lear Jet and a private “Rendition ” and drop that fucker blindfolded and in shackles at the front door of the ICC… ;)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:29:32pm

re: #166 fern01

Searching for something I ended up on NYT Maggie’s twitter. Checked the last many tweets and the only dem candidates mentioned were Bernie, Pete and Beto. Seems like 2016 all over again.

I really hope we don’t ultimately get a Dem ticket with two white guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:30:15pm

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope we don’t ultimately get a Dem ticket with two white guys.

Magic 8 Ball Says: Don’t Hold Your Breath

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:30:49pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:31:54pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

He might be pissed off enough at Trump to give up some juicy tidbits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:32:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:33:01pm

good fucking grief

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:33:40pm
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Chrysicat  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:36:12pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:38:10pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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Is that a government account?

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Chrysicat  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:40:38pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that a government account?

No, it’s the Family Research Counci—

Oh, wait, at this point, I think Tony might as well be an official member of the regime government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:45:27pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that a government account?

No, Tony Perkins’ “think tank”

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:46:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:46:34pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:47:16pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:47:38pm

re: #179 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

This is exactly what Putin wants.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:48:02pm

re: #181 Joe Bacon 🌹

Obviously, this person has never heard of multi-tasking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:55:34pm
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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:55:52pm

I am so disgusted and distressed by what DT is doing to this country… so I took a photo of my cat Pippi. As you can see by the cat thermometer, it is warm, and she is in total control of her world.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:56:33pm

re: #156 teleskiguy

I’m towards the end, in the gorilla suit.

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You are awesome.

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KGxvi  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:56:35pm

re: #152 jaunte

Imagine trusting this dood’s judgement…on anything.

I mean… if I was in the market for a skin suit (which I am not), Miller would be on the top of the list of people that I would think would probably have knowledge of how to make and/or acquire one.

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Jay C  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:56:36pm

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if he’s thinking a lot of the owners will side with him like with the NFL anthem kneeling thing…or maybe he just fucking hates Cubans?

Probably a combination of several things:
1. Improved relations with Cuba were an Obama initiative, so BAD THING
2. Coming from Bolton, the animus likely to be Venezuela-related - Cuba is seen as
Maduro’s main prop, so BAD
3. Cuba-bashing is still seen as a cheap hit with the RW Florida-Cuban crowd, and those
FL politicos who still need to appease them because COMMIES
4. Nobody (except maybe MLB) is really likely to push back, so nothing to be done.

All that said, it’s fucking baseball: as usual with virtually everything Trump-related it just looks like nasty petty bullshit….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 3:58:09pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:01:27pm
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Chrysicat  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:01:30pm
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KGxvi  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:02:04pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

Going back to a failed policy on Cuba. Making life more difficult for ordinary people on both sides of the Florida Strait.

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:03:35pm

Another downer: a place I had not heard of burned by white supremacists. Rude Pundit is uncharacteristically non-profane about this. It obviously affects him deeply.

White Nationalists Suspected of Fire at Important Civil Rights Location

I work with a non profit archive that has been a dream of mine for many years, and the thought of this happening hurts my soul. That there are people that nasty, that evil, it hurts my soul.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:04:45pm

re: #190 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

“Give me what I want or I shoot these kids!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:05:37pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:12:21pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I was just doing my job.

Said many a Nazi.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:14:11pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:14:53pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hate to break it to Farmer Dave but that bullshit didn’t work when Georgia and Alabama turned migrant farmworkers away…AND CROPS ROTTED IN THE FIELDS!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:16:31pm

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hate to break it to Farmer Dave but that bullshit didn’t work when Georgia and Alabama turned migrant farmworkers away…AND CROPS ROTTED IN THE FIELDS!

They didn’t turn them away. The migrants STAYED AWAY because of the new tough immigration laws and the Americans the farmers hired to try and take their place quit after a day or two.

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danarchy  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:17:02pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All due respect to Senator Harris, if he is legally required to transfer children to another government agency as specified by statute written by congress then it is really congress’ job to make sure that other agency is exercising the appropriate care. That is part of their oversight duties. DHS has no authority to perform oversight of HHS.

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:21:35pm

re: #200 danarchy

All due respect to Senator Harris, if he is legally required to transfer children to another government agency as specified by statute written by congress then it is really congress’ job to make sure that other agency is exercising the appropriate care. That is part of their oversight duties. DHS has no authority to perform oversight of HHS.

I think she was checking if he had a heart.

You know the kind that if you realize those around you don’t care about what is going on you do something about it. Or you go to others with authority to do look into it, not cover over it.

But nah, let’s just worry about sticking to policy and whatever else happens happens.

Like I just said…a good Nazi just does his job. The orders come from above.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:23:46pm

I’m sorry WHAT?

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:23:56pm

Well, here’s a neat thing! (by Primo Encarnación on Juanita Jean’s blogness)

The Father* of the US Cavalry

It is interesting as you go, and then at the end, there is a big twist!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:23:56pm

re: #200 danarchy

All due respect to Senator Harris, if he is legally required to transfer children to another government agency as specified by statute written by congress then it is really congress’ job to make sure that other agency is exercising the appropriate care. That is part of their oversight duties. DHS has no authority to perform oversight of HHS.

my bad…I was under the impression that it was DHS that was initially separating the children. I had no idea that it was HHS.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:27:30pm

Here ya’ go:
Lubbock police release images of suspects in Saturday night’s rowdiness
They’re actually kind of a dorky looking mob on average. This alleged hooligan appears to be wearing some kind of work uniform. Anyone know what this is?


(eight more suspect images at link)
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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:28:05pm

JM Ashby on bobcesca.com:

Finally, the New Zealand government’s top privacy official has some strong words for Facebook.

Calling the tech giant “morally bankrupt pathological liars,” John Edwards said on Twitter on Sunday night that Facebook “cannot be trusted.”

The social media platform “enable[d] genocide” in Myanmar, Edwards tweeted, referring to Facebook’s role in inciting violence and promoting discrimination in the Southeast Asian nation, aimed particularly at the minority Rohingya people.

Facebook also facilitates “foreign undermining of democratic institutions,” and allows the livestreaming “of suicides, rapes, and murders,” Edwards continued, according to the New Zealand Herald.

I don’t see any lies here.

We’re just four days away from the Brexit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:35:15pm
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Mike Lamb  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:36:36pm

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

I’m sorry WHAT?

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Feels a bit like the scene in “The Departed” when Matt Damon “interrogates” one of Nicholson’s goons.

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danarchy  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:37:05pm

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

my bad…I was under the impression that it was DHS that was initially separating the children. I had no idea that it was HHS.

This isn’t just about separated children, it is about unaccompanied minors as well, of which there were/are a whole lot more than actual separated children. Any problems at HHS would exist with or without family separation.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:37:21pm
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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:37:58pm

Potatoes are proof that God wanted us to have microwaves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:39:20pm

re: #209 danarchy

This isn’t just about separated children, it is about unaccompanied minors as well, of which there were/are a whole lot more than actual separated children. Any problems at HHS would exist with or without family separation.

again, my bad.
I had no idea that DHS was completely blameless in any of this about the children.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:41:34pm

If the Florida peninsula were a person pointing to the West, we would be camping tonight in a small town firmly in the armpit. On the way down, we passed a very good BBQ restaurant that I commented on about two years ago. At the time we last visited we noted that their “Closed for Renovations” sign had been up for about 6 months, so we drove in to the lightly filled parking lot and took a chance. The place was open. Our nice waitress explained that they often ran out of pig for the locals, so they put the sign up to cut down on the tourist traffic.

Another year later, on our return leg, the sign is still up and the lot still has cars. However, Monday is BBQ Sabbath in the Southeast, and the place really is closed today. We will try to hang in late enough tomorrow to catch an early lunch.

The clandestine pig production lab really is very good, despite some of the reviews on TripAdvisor.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:45:55pm

Civic duty update: My jury group number hasn’t been called up yet but at the current rate of progression I’ll probably have to go in by Thursday.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:49:19pm

re: #205 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Here ya’ go:
Lubbock police release images of suspects in Saturday night’s rowdiness
They’re actually kind of a dorky looking mob on average. This alleged hooligan appears to be wearing some kind of work uniform. Anyone know what this is?

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(eight more suspect images at link)

ID’ed. It ‘s an Under Armour TTU polo. I have never seen those colors together on Texas Tech merchandise before.

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Chrysicat  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:50:51pm

re: #215 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

ID’ed. It ‘s an Under Armour TTU polo. I have never seen those colors together on Texas Tech merchandise before.

Do we think it’s a coach or just an “overzealous” student?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:53:09pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:54:32pm

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Decatur Deb  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:58:19pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

At what point does the GOP resist, or admit to being willing collaborators?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 4:58:56pm

meanwhile in Canada:

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dharmamark  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:02:32pm

re: #218 Patricia Kayden

Local to me, cartoonist, Clay Jones.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:06:09pm

re: #216 Chrysicat

Do we think it’s a coach or just an “overzealous” student?

May be an employee of some sort, though not for long if so.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:09:00pm

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hate to break it to Farmer Dave but that bullshit didn’t work when Georgia and Alabama turned migrant farmworkers away…AND CROPS ROTTED IN THE FIELDS!

If “those people,” were available and willing to do the work they’d be doing it now

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gocart mozart  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:11:27pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:16:05pm

re: #135 Jebediah, RBG

So our only hope would be that it wasn’t his environment that made him what he is - that he was born to be an evil shit stain.

Satan made a bet (just like with Job) that he could reincarnate Goebbels into a nice Jewish family and Goebbels/Miller would be the same evil shit stain and do the same evil shit.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:19:02pm

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

Satan made a bet (just like with Job) that he could reincarnate Goebbels into a nice Jewish family and Goebbels/Miller would be the same evil shit stain and do the same evil shit.

Not the schul that makes the fool.

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Chrysicat  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:20:13pm

re: #224 gocart mozart

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Well, that’s ‘nice”.

They’re so confident that the rest of the country is finally ready to support them, even knowing what they really are, that they “sarcastically” take off the mask.

And God/dess help me, I think they’re mostly right.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:22:45pm

re: #227 Chrysicat

Well, that’s ‘nice”.

They’re so confident that the rest of the country is finally ready to support them, even knowing what they really are, that they “sarcastically” take off the mask.

And God/dess help me, I think they’re mostly right.

They have full control of the Republican Party and they will pull any dirty trick to stay in power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:26:19pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:27:44pm

re: #224 gocart mozart

So cool that Twitter is a haven for admitted Nazis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:27:52pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:31:24pm

re: #226 Decatur Deb

Not the schul that makes the fool.

I am still seething over the RJC “Shabbaton” at the casino. YOU DON’T ROLL ON SHABBOS.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:33:12pm

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

I am still seething over the RJC “Shabbaton” at the casino. YOU DON’T ROLL ON SHABBOS.

Unless your ass falls down a well, per the New Testament.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:37:52pm

re: #230 Patricia Kayden

So cool that Twitter is a haven for admitted Nazis.

And if you call them out, Twitter slams the hammer down on you, suspends you for 7 days and blocks you from reporting offensive tweets permanently!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:39:08pm
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William Lewis  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:39:26pm

re: #233 Decatur Deb

Unless your ass falls down a well, per the New Testament.

I think my ass would be pretty sheepish in that case…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:40:46pm

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

I am still seething over the RJC “Shabbaton” at the casino. YOU DON’T ROLL ON SHABBOS.

What really galled me were the men wearing red MAGA Kippahs. And seeing Adelman in the front row with a red Kippah that printed TRUMP made me even sicker. And do NOT get me started on the blasphemy done by the Cole Slaw Man!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:40:57pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:42:48pm

I got a mailing today from AIPAC complete with a pre-addressed postcard to mail to both my senators (I have to supply the postage) and a pre-stamped envelope to send in my donation.

FTS. It’s in the garbage now.

The Israeli organizations that I support are United Hatzalah (which saved Zedushka’s life on the airplane when his blood sugar fell dangerously low) and Pantry Packers, a soup kitchen run by my son-in-law.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:42:57pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I would love to see Joy Reid take over Meet the Press and tear these MAGATs apart!

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:43:38pm

re: #234 Joe Bacon 🌹

And that is why my blood pressure won’t allow me to join Twitter. Arghhhhh!!!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:43:54pm

Loisida Camper Tip of the Night:

If you squeeze a 5 oz box of Yoo Hoo into a tumbler and top it off with cold orange La Croix fizzy water, the mix is surprisingly reminiscent of an egg cream.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:44:09pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:45:02pm

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

I got a mailing today from AIPAC complete with a pre-addressed postcard to mail to both my senators (I have to supply the postage) and a pre-stamped envelope to send in my donation.

FTS. It’s in the garbage now.

The Israeli organizations that I support are United Hatzalah (which saved Zedushka’s life on the airplane when his blood sugar fell dangerously low) and Pantry Packers, a soup kitchen run by my son-in-law.

Thank you for letting me know about Pantry Packers. Already knew about United Hatzalah and sent $$ when I saw your post.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:45:20pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

MAGA!

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gocart mozart  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:47:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:47:35pm

O_o

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:49:45pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why am I not surprised? Bibi and DT are two of a kind.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:51:28pm

Trump has over THREE times as many as the highest other Presidents on the list.

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Chrysicat  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:52:05pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why am I not surprised there are already 20 Republitrolls spouting the opinion that this is a good thing because we need to change the entire country’s culture so that not only does no one expect a tax refund, no one even wants one “because it’s giving an interest-free loan to a defective government, and you should always want only to write the smallest check possible, but WRITE A CHECK”?

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William Lewis  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:57:30pm

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

I got a mailing today from AIPAC complete with a pre-addressed postcard to mail to both my senators (I have to supply the postage) and a pre-stamped envelope to send in my donation.

FTS. It’s in the garbage now.

The Israeli organizations that I support are United Hatzalah (which saved Zedushka’s life on the airplane when his blood sugar fell dangerously low) and Pantry Packers, a soup kitchen run by my son-in-law.

Thank you for the Pantry link. I will send them something as soon as I can. Having needed that, it is the kind of thing that I need to support.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 8, 2019 • 5:58:16pm

re: #76 plansbandc

Good read…

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That was really good. Thanks for the link.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:06:18pm

Rachel is now reporting on Trump’s Baku deal which was financed by…the Iranian Revolutionary Guard…

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ObserverArt  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:07:25pm

re: #253 Joe Bacon 🌹

Rachel is now reporting on Trump’s Baku deal which was financed by…the Iranian Revolutionary Guard…

The building that makes Rachel blush.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:11:45pm

re: #219 Decatur Deb

At what point does the GOP resist, or admit to being willing collaborators?

GOP resist? Any George Will types are long gone. All that remains are not collaborators, but the very architects of this fascism.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:13:52pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:17:47pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:18:59pm

re: #250 Chrysicat

That’s such a stupid argument. Many people like me depended on big federal tax refunds to pay down debt or use for home renovations. My tax refund was halved this year and I’m still pissed.

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gocart mozart  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:20:34pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:21:41pm

re: #259 gocart mozart

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Bottom Line…These Radical Xtians want to finish what Hitler started.

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:25:27pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

Facebook is a goddamned trash fire.

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I see more skin when Beyonce is dancing than the image they’re using as an excuse to block the page.

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MsJ  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:28:31pm

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

I got a mailing today from AIPAC complete with a pre-addressed postcard to mail to both my senators (I have to supply the postage) and a pre-stamped envelope to send in my donation.

FTS. It’s in the garbage now.

The Israeli organizations that I support are United Hatzalah (which saved Zedushka’s life on the airplane when his blood sugar fell dangerously low) and Pantry Packers, a soup kitchen run by my son-in-law.

If it was prepaid, you should have wrapped each envelope around a brick and mailed it back.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:35:37pm

Regarding the OP, by coincidence one of my colleagues here is a young man whose family owns a mobile home park in Oklahoma. He said their business is what enabled his family to send him to university and grad school — but to state schools. They’re not millionaires, but comfortable, as they say. If I have the chance, I’ll ask him if some big business ever offered to buy them out.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:35:52pm

re: #252 Teddy’s Person

That was really good. Thanks for the link.

Husband sent it to his entire basketball program as required reading and discussion. Players, coaches, everyone.

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William Lewis  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:39:57pm

re: #252 Teddy’s Person

That was really good. Thanks for the link.

Missed it earlier so I read now. Excellent. Thank you both.

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stpaulbear  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:40:51pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

I could probably go 0-46 playing T-ball. I don’t have the knack.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:51:05pm

So I’m not the only one that’s noticed.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 8, 2019 • 6:56:19pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got a healthy tax refund this year thanks to the Federal EV credit when I sold a bunch of stock to buy my Tesla. My income was way higher this year because of the sale of those stocks. Next year I will probably be screwed like everyone else I know.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:00:08pm

re: #259 gocart mozart

Wow, what a diverse group of speakers!

///

Also, the free lodging is for Pastors only. Regular folks still gotta pay for hotels.

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:03:49pm

Jay Rosen, PressThink, A current list of my top problems in pressthink, April 2019 Updated from time to time. Ranked by urgency.

3. With his hate campaign against journalists, Trump has been successful in isolating about a third of the electorate in an information loop of its own. These are people beyond the reach of journalism, immune to its discoveries. Trump is their primary source of information about Trump. The existence of a group this size shows that de-legitimizing the news media works. The fact that it works means we will probably see more of it.
4. Fox News is merging with the Trump government in a combination unseen before. We don’t know what that combined thing is, or even how to talk about it. The common shorthand is “state media.” But that is only half the picture. It’s true that Fox is a propaganda machine. But it is also true that the Trump government is like a cable channel— with nukes.
6. Now in its 15th year, the business model crisis in journalism is still unsolved. (But at least we know that except in rare cases digital advertising is not going to be the answer, which counts as progress.)

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:06:37pm

re: #270 retired cynic

And a commenter to the above: “The Murdochs may simply be exploiting the collapse of standards and accountability of this moment…”

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:09:02pm

So I didn’t get employee of the year at the ski area (a guy who shoveled snow got it, well deserved). But my name was mentioned several times by upper management, and marketing is paying me $100 for doing the pond skim in a gorilla suit!

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:11:01pm

re: #267 GlutenFreeJesus

So I’m not the only one that’s noticed.

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Do they love Jesus and the Constitution?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:13:37pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:20:30pm

re: #272 teleskiguy

So I didn’t get employee of the year at the ski area (a guy who shoveled snow got it, well deserved). But my name was mentioned several times by upper management, and marketing is paying me $100 for doing the pond skim in a gorilla suit!

Fucking awesome job, dude! 👍🏻❤️

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Belafon  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:20:53pm

re: #219 Decatur Deb

At what point does the GOP resist, or admit to being willing collaborators?

When we punish them at the ballot box.

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freetoken  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:22:21pm

There are so many crypto-currency bots inhabiting Twitter now that some hashtags are useless. Pretty much anything to do with money, gambling (lottery), investing, etc.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:22:49pm

I have five of those infernal things in my house. I called the Fan Extermination company and they can’t get out here until Thursday. I’ll be sleeping in the barn until then.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:25:07pm
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freetoken  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:26:07pm

re: #278 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I hatez ceiling fans, of all types.

My campaign should I ever run for office will be “Ban the Fan”.

Not because they cause cancer… but because they are worthless. They just make a room warmer, they are not coolers.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:27:22pm

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

Fucking awesome job, dude! 👍🏻❤️

Thank you very much! It was a winter to remember. And it’s not over yet! I’m skiing at Arapahoe Basin later this week, and this weekend I’m going back to Aspen, staying in a slopeside condo! Life is good.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:32:59pm
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freetoken  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:34:15pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:38:20pm

Before I say good night. John Oliver is brilliant. Good night.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:38:56pm

Oh my…

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:40:54pm

Hey! A co-worker filmed me doing the pond skim from a *great* angle.

The water was 34° F and the gorilla suit, dude, don’t get me started.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:46:18pm
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calochortus  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:46:48pm

re: #285 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my…

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IOKIYAR. I think we all know that.

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:47:02pm

re: #287 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I can’t stand to watch that…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:47:13pm

vanityfair.com

On Monday, Donald Trump announced that his administration was designating the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization, the first time in history the U.S. had classified another country’s government as such, an action that flips the switch on a range of sanctions on the military unit and companies, individuals, and organizations with ties to it. According to The New York Times, top C.I.A. and Pentagon officials argued against the designation, saying it will “allow hard-line Iranian officials to justify deadly operations against Americans overseas, especially Special operations units and paramilitary units working under the C.I.A.” But Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national security adviser John Bolton reportedly pushed for it, and ultimately persuaded the president. “This action will significantly expand the scope and scale of our maximum pressure on the Iranian regime,” Trump said in a statement on Monday. “It makes crystal clear the risks of conducting business with, or providing support to, the I.R.G.C.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:47:30pm

re: #279 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I keep a bunch of blankets and a few leashes in my car just in case!

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 7:52:00pm

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

Satan made a bet (just like with Job) that he could reincarnate Goebbels into a nice Jewish family and Goebbels/Miller would be the same evil shit stain and do the same evil shit.

Next time I talk to that guy, I’m going to tell him lay off the fucking betting. (BTW his friends call him Stan.)

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Ferdinand  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:04:55pm

google.com

Well the gun violence scourge struck my family this weekend. My cousin was murdered in Colorado by an old white man this weekend. We’re still at the “no names until everyone is notified” stage of the story. But I’ve heard the details and they suck. 2019 in the United States is pretty shitty.

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:05:46pm

re: #293 Ferdinand

OMG, I am so sorry!

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gocart mozart  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:07:39pm
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Ferdinand  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:11:25pm

re: #293 Ferdinand

google.com

Well the gun violence scourge struck my family this weekend. My cousin was murdered in Colorado by an old white man this weekend. We’re still at the “no names until everyone is notified” stage of the story. But I’ve heard the details and they suck. 2019 in the United States is pretty shitty.

Long story short, 67 year old dude decided that the reason the landlady turned down his proposition must have been because she had the hots for her other tenant, my cousin (a classical artist working as a truck driver). So he killed both of them. Fucking murderers and their fucking bang sticks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:13:03pm

re: #295 gocart mozart

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There’s no place to put your beer.

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calochortus  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:13:26pm

re: #296 Ferdinand

Long story short, 67 year old dude decided that the reason the landlady turned down his proposition must have been because she had the hots for her other tenant, my cousin (a classical artist working as a truck driver). So he killed both of them. Fucking murderers and their fucking bang sticks.

I am so very sorry. I can’t imagine why people think having an arsenal at one’s disposal is a good idea.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:13:28pm
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CleverToad  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:15:48pm

re: #293 Ferdinand

So very sorry to hear this. So infuriated to hear this over and over again. Sympathies for you and your family.

I have cousins in Colorado screeching loudly about the horrible ‘red flag’ law that the liberal gay governor is going to use to take their guns away. I sure as hell wish he could.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:34:55pm

re: #293 Ferdinand

Fucking hell.
Condolences to you and your family.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:35:57pm

re: #293 Ferdinand

So sorry about this.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:42:04pm

re: #293 Ferdinand

Fuck, man.

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Ferdinand  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:44:53pm

My cousin shared this on Facebook about his brother’s death:

Thanks to everyone who has reached out—we’re all still in shock at the loss of my brother.
Here’s what we know:
The art world failed Raphael again and again and again. We live in a world that doesn’t allow classical artists a means to monetize their talents, and even when it seemed he was starting to get somewhere as an artist, the art world seemed to find a way to disappoint him—its cliquishness and snobbery unable to accommodate a fiery personality like his.
His talents were ludicrous. They were amazing. He was the top tier of top tier talent, so good at what he did that even his peers at elite institutions like the New York Academy of Art were jealous and resentful of what he could do with a simple ball point pen or pencil; and yet he found it impossible to make a living as an artist.
In the 1400s, he’d have been celebrated and rewarded the way his namesake or Michelangelo or Leonardo or Caravaggio or Botticelli were, commissioned by the powers that be to make beautiful public spaces. 500 years later people would have stood in awe of his paintings, drawings, and sculptures. Michelangelo was famously punched in the face by a jealous rival once, and I think it no stretch to say Raph would have been a celebrity in the Renaissance of equal heft, needing to hone his boxing skills against jealous peers. The jabs he endured were typically slights of a more subtle variety.
Alas, not the world we live in.
And so like many talented artists have to do, Raph turned to making a living at something else to subsidize his artistic endeavors. In the last few months he went from resenting his own ungodly talent—finding it a curse at times—to actually enjoying art as a release while on the road.
He took well to driving a truck, and was instantly good at it. All the miles on his Yamaha FZ1 had given him a steady hand and a gift for commanding an 80,000lb missile across the plains of CO and KS.
He was finally finding his way in the world, and instead he was taken from us by the worst stripe of toxic masculinity.
What we know so far: in an effort to be close to the truck depot where he was dispatched, he took a room in a house in Commerce City, CO; his landlord was a woman. This woman also rented a room downstairs to a crazy person, a man who felt entitled to the romantic affections of the landlady.
He has apparently confessed to the police that he assumed the reason his romantic overtures—at 67 years old himself—were not being returned was Raphael.
And so he murdered them both over it, ambushing them in cowardly fashion.
Later today my brother Dan, Dad, and I will go searching for meaning in all of this by meeting the detective on the case.
I suspect there is none to be found.

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gocart mozart  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:44:55pm
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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:47:18pm

re: #304 Ferdinand

My cousin shared this on Facebook about his brother’s death:

How awful for you all. My heart is aching for you!

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:47:33pm

re: #300 CleverToad

I have cousins in Colorado screeching loudly about the horrible ‘red flag’ law that the liberal gay governor is going to use to take their guns away. I sure as hell wish he could.

Because I’m smart or whatever, my guns are not in my house. They’re in a safe at my parents’ place, have been for years. I suffer from depression. It comes in fits and starts. Sometimes it’s really bad. Suicide is an answer for folks in the throughs of depression. Guns are an effective ‘off switch.’

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calochortus  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:49:36pm

re: #307 teleskiguy

Keep on being smart. We want you to stay with us.

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retired cynic  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:49:54pm

re: #307 teleskiguy

Because I’m smart or whatever, my guns are not in my house. They’re in a safe at my parents’ place, have been for years. I suffer from depression. It comes in fits and starts. Sometimes it’s really bad. Suicide is an answer for folks in the throughs of depression. Guns are an effective ‘off switch.’

You are wise.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 8:58:25pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:00:09pm

Kurt Cobain killed himself with a gun 25 years ago. He wrote great rock ‘n’ roll music.

NIRVANA - Sliver - Incesticide (1992) - [HQ]

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BlueGrl21  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:03:15pm

re: #307 teleskiguy

Because I’m smart or whatever, my guns are not in my house. They’re in a safe at my parents’ place, have been for years. I suffer from depression. It comes in fits and starts. Sometimes it’s really bad. Suicide is an answer for folks in the throughs of depression. Guns are an effective ‘off switch.’

You are smart. I have no guns in our house for many reasons but your reasoning applies to me as well.

Want you around for a while. :)

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BlueGrl21  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:04:31pm

re: #304 Ferdinand

My cousin shared this on Facebook about his brother’s death:

I am so sorry.

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Mattand  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:06:26pm

re: #304 Ferdinand

My cousin shared this on Facebook about his brother’s death:

Condolences. So sorry to hear this.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:08:56pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:11:18pm

re: #295 gocart mozart

Replies do not disappoint.

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:11:38pm

re: #304 Ferdinand

Dude…

That is some heartbreaking shit. I’m at a loss. Too sad…

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teleskiguy  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:14:08pm

Guns are a scourge. Especially with toxic men.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:14:30pm

re: #318 teleskiguy

Guns are a scourge. Especially with toxic men.

THIS.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:15:21pm

re: #293 Ferdinand

Horrible. My sympathy to you and your family. There are too many unstable people with guns.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:20:53pm

re: #315 Ace-o-aces

@DavidWohl
Replying to @IlhanMN
Shouldn’t you be planning your wedding anniversary…with your brother? Maybe you can celebrate with a vacation in Somalia.

@aceoaces
Hey, remember when your son filed a false police report, and recorded himself doing it and then posted the video to the internet? Good times.
10:58 PM - Apr 8, 2019

Certainly clear that Jacob Wohl inherited his sociopathy from his father.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:29:07pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:43:51pm
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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:44:10pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:45:32pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, what ever happened to “if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about.”. That whole Patriot Act was pushed on that premise.

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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 9:47:53pm

And this one lined up in my morning playlist:

Robyn - Psycho

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:03:19pm
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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:03:48pm

My comment:

Futurama - We’re boned

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:06:35pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:06:55pm

re: #328 Teukka

5 million square miles of tundra thawing in summer and decomposing, what could go wrong?

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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:08:26pm

re: #328 Teukka

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plansbandc  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:12:37pm

This is one of the best music things I’ve ever seen. Goddamn.

David Bowie – Life On Mars? (Official Video)

I had no idea there was a video of this. Holy shit.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:20:12pm

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The thank-you-note woman boggles the mind. It like she read Emily Post books and decided social etiquette should also apply to business relations. Within reason, yes, businesspeople should be polite to one another, but expecting a thank you note from a new hire is pathological. I heard her tweet got seriously ratio’d and deservedly so.

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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:21:48pm

re: #330 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

5 million square miles of tundra thawing in summer and decomposing, what could go wrong?

*whoosh* followed by *cough* ?
I worry about wildfires, it was pretty bad last summer here, and my gut indicates it may be worse this summer.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:22:02pm

re: #295 gocart mozart

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:24:11pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:26:49pm

re: #336 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Must have turned into them

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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:27:59pm

re: #334 Teukka

*whoosh* followed by *cough* ?
I worry about wildfires, it was pretty bad last summer here, and my gut indicates it may be worse this summer.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:28:00pm

It’s a floating smudge pot.

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Cheechako  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:29:09pm

re: #328 Teukka

My comment: From that article:

“To progress beyond a presentation of the Arctic physical climate changes, we find a correspondence between air temperature and biophysical indicators such as tundra biomass and identify numerous biophysical disruptions with cascading effects throughout the trophic levels. These include: increased delivery of organic matter and nutrients to Arctic near‐coastal zones; condensed flowering and pollination plant species periods; timing mismatch between plant flowering and pollinators; increased plant vulnerability to insect disturbance; increased shrub biomass; increased ignition of wildfires; increased growing season CO2 uptake, …

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I noticed a similar occurrence in my neighborhood in SE Alaska. Last summer there were absolutely no cones being produced by the large Sitka spruces and hemlocks in my neighborhood. And I mean absolutely none. In a normal year I usually pick up several bushels of cones from just my yard. This past year, nothing.

I remember commenting last fall about my concerns for my local squirrel family and their inability to find cones to store in their middens. So far I haven’t seen any squirrels in my yard.

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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:38:51pm

re: #340 Cheechako

I noticed a similar occurrence in my neighborhood in SE Alaska. Last summer there were absolutely no cones being produced by the large Sitka spruces and hemlocks in my neighborhood. And I mean absolutely none. In a normal year I usually pick up several bushels of cones from just my yard. This past year, nothing.

I remember commenting last fall about my concerns for my local squirrel family and their inability to find cones to store in their middens. So far I haven’t seen any squirrels in my yard.

My nightmare scenario is a variation on “the perfect storm” theme. Basically, major-league ecological collapse and emerging diseases, compounded by natural disasters. All brought on by anthropogenic climate change.
And that’s without factoring anything else but primary damage, secondary damage would be political and ecological collapse, and I’m sure someone somewhere has worked out the potential 7th level damage.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:41:06pm

re: #304 Ferdinand

My cousin shared this on Facebook about his brother’s death:

So sorry. Crazy people should not have guns.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:44:20pm

re: #341 Teukka

My nightmare scenario is a variation on “the perfect storm” theme. Basically, major-league ecological collapse and emerging diseases, compounded by natural disasters. All brought on by anthropogenic climate change.
And that’s without factoring anything else but primary damage, secondary damage would be political and ecological collapse, and I’m sure someone somewhere has worked out the potential 7th level damage.

The war gaming scenarios have us at theater nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan at 4th level, spreading to China, so after that, it’s pretty much theoretical.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:46:16pm

re: #341 Teukka

My nightmare scenario is a variation on “the perfect storm” theme. Basically, major-league ecological collapse and emerging diseases, compounded by natural disasters. All brought on by anthropogenic climate change.
And that’s without factoring anything else but primary damage, secondary damage would be political and ecological collapse, and I’m sure someone somewhere has worked out the potential 7th level damage.

The Radical Xtians are going to get the shock of their lives when JC and his Sonshine Band pull a no-show when the climate goes to hell.

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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:46:35pm

re: #343 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

The war gaming scenarios have us at theater nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan at 4th level, spreading to China, so after that, it’s pretty much theoretical.

Depends on how chill the Chinese are. If they don’t toss that many nukes, things may be survivable, not that it will be anywhere near a cakewalk to survive that shitstorm.

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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:47:49pm

re: #344 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Radical Xtians are going to get the shock of their lives when JC and his Sonshine Band pull a no-show when the climate goes to hell.

More karmic justice would be them meeting JC and the Sonshine band as the opposing team on the battlefield. Masonry materials will be defecated, just sayin’…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:49:47pm

If JC actually came back to Earth, Fox News would call him a Communist.

Rush Limbaugh would trash him.

Radical Xtian Pulpit PImps would denounce him.

Republicans would shun him.

Trump would turn the MAGATS on him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:51:04pm

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Just read the tipping thread you mentioned. Dude got smacked down hard in the replies.

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Teukka  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:53:21pm

re: #347 Joe Bacon 🌹

If JC actually came back to Earth, Fox News would call him a Communist.

Rush Limbaugh would trash him.

Radical Xtian Pulpit PImps would denounce him.

Republicans would shun him.

Trump would turn the MAGATS on him.

And then he’d produce ID. Most likely after they’ve tried to kill that carpenters lad again. It will be a mess in more ways than one.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 8, 2019 • 10:56:06pm

re: #339 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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It’s a floating smudge pot.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:01:25pm

One of my classmates from elementary, junior and senior high school has posted on Facebook every class photo of his from kindergarten to sixth grade. I am in a few of them. So is Meg Whitman. Yes, that Meg Whitman.

I have these photos, and had no desire to see them posted on FB. So, … thanks Hank?

Quite of few of my classmates are getting seriously nostalgic (perhaps sadly so) in their mid-60s. I’m too busy planning my classes to worry about shit like that.

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CarolJ  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:02:27pm

re: #350 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That also explains why Russia is doing what it’s doing with America. There’s no real world way for “Russia To Be Great Again”. It’s economy is crap, it’s military is crap, nobody wants to reconstitute the old Soviet Union again even as a voluntary alliance-all the exes want NATO and the EU. So if they can manipulate a corrupt old like Trump, they can at least burn it all down.

Which is what I see here with climate change mitigation resistance, Brexit, the Rapture craze, and all the rest. It’s a Denethor moment where if he can’t have what he wants, he will burn himself and his progeny alive. (Those of you who have read the Lord of the Rings know what I’m talking about.) So it is with this. Fundamentalist Christianity and its toxic nationalist offshoots would rather burn it down than turn it over to the young, brown and aspiring. Rather than let women have a place in this world. Toxic masculinity at its worst.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:14:03pm

A message from Miss Marple

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freetoken  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:23:26pm

Very warm here today, for early April. Or, at least it was humid enough that the sun beating down on the walls of my place made it down right hot inside.

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freetoken  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:25:20pm

Your physics lecture for the night, the recent podcast by Sean Carroll:

Episode 41: Steven Strogatz on Synchronization, Networks, and the Emergence of Complex Behavior

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freetoken  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:27:46pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:30:08pm

re: #322 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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“Poor, dumb whites will be our salvation!” isn’t much of a campaign slogan, Laura.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:33:27pm

Sigh — Retired middle of last year and clearly did not withhold enough from my IRA RMD. The new tax law definitely did not help. But at least it doesn’t look like I will be paying a penalty for my federal taxes, which will probably be about 20% higher than last year! Hoping to get the taxes completed Tuesday.

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unproven innocence  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:35:26pm

“Not good news for pro-democracy movement in S. Korea” —Al Jazeera:

🇭🇰 Hong Kong ‘Umbrella Movement’ protest leaders found guilty | Al Jazeera English

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freetoken  Apr 8, 2019 • 11:46:38pm

re: #358 Hecuba’s daughter

I didn’t pay enough estimated tax to the California Franchise Tax Board… so I will owe a penalty. Sigh indeed.

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:09:04am

I see that Science is now wanting to charge to view their news pages.

Ack.

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:20:38am

When the Associated Press is nothing more than a willful stenographer for the powerful:

American Petroleum Institute CEO’s views on Permian Basin, climate change, offshore drilling

It’s the same old story - American fossil fuel (petroleum, natural gas) will continue at current levels, we can’t afford climate change mitigation, yada yada.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:25:25am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Matthew Yglesias

@mattyglesias
Nobody likes to give themselves credit for this kind of messaging success, but progressive groups did a really good job of convincing people that Trump raised their taxes when the facts say a clear majority got a tax cut.

First — the issue is that for most middle class taxpayers, the tax cut was very modest; but it was sold as giving the average family a $4,000 pay raise. For some of us in blue states, it provided a significant tax increase.
Second — in 1994, the GOP managed to take over Congress and the Senate, at least in part by persuading middle income Americans that the Clinton tax package raised their taxes when it actually raised taxes only on the top 1.2%.

Progressives did not lie about the nature of the Trump tax plan; our press once again failed to raise the alarm about this dreadful GOP plan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:25:45am

re: #352 CarolJ

That also explains why Russia is doing what it’s doing with America. There’s no real world way for “Russia To Be Great Again”. It’s economy is crap, it’s military is crap, nobody wants to reconstitute the old Soviet Union again even as a voluntary alliance-all the exes want NATO and the EU. So if they can manipulate a corrupt old like Trump, they can at least burn it all down.

I have to disagree: I believethat Putin wants to restore the old Russian Empire and call home the Russian diaspora. They are his Sudetendeutschen and can be used as in the Crimea and Donbass as an excuse for intervention

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:32:02am

re: #339 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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It’s a floating smudge pot.

re: #363 Hecuba’s daughter

First — the issue is that for most middle class taxpayers, the tax cut was very modest; but it was sold as giving the average family a $4,000 pay raise. For some of us in blue states, it provided a significant tax increase.
Second — in 1994, the GOP managed to take over Congress and the Senate, at least in part by persuading middle income Americans that the Clinton tax package raised their taxes when it actually raised taxes only on the top 1.2%.

Progressives did not lie about the nature of the Trump tax plan; our press once again failed to raise the alarm about this dreadful GOP plan.

Third - The Upward Monetary Redistribution Act (aka the Trump Tax Cuts) cut a lot of people off from the Earned Income Tax Credit by moving their tax brackets, either cut or eliminated various tax deductions, and altered the withholding tables so as to give people the illusion of getting a “pay raise.” All of these raised taxes on the middle class, such that many are finding themselves owning for the first time in their lives, wiping out any “savings” from the reduction in the raw rates.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:44:26am

I bet she feels like a chump —- now.

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:47:25am

re: #366 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I bet she feels like a chump —- now.

Not sure anyone in this Administration is able to feel any regret or remorse.

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:49:03am

And now for something special:

Missa pro Victoria (Tomás Luis de Victoria)

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:50:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2019 • 12:56:24am

re: #367 freetoken

Not sure anyone in this Administration is able to feel any regret or remorse.

they know how to express it if they feel that it is a neccesary measure

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CarolJ  Apr 9, 2019 • 1:01:03am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Putin does, but don’t think Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Poland and the rest do. They may play some footsie just to keep the Russian bear off their backs, but reabsorption as a new Iron Curtain is not in their future. And lets not forget that about 40 years under the Russian boot hasn’t created a great deal of grudges. And economically compared to the EU, Russia has little to offer.

And when your lone aircraft carrier is a scow, and with a declinining population, there is not much they can do but annoy these days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2019 • 1:25:48am

re: #371 CarolJ

Putin does, but don’t think Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Poland and the rest do. They may play some footsie just to keep the Russian bear off their backs, but reabsorption as a new Iron Curtain is not in their future. And lets not forget that about 40 years under the Russian boot hasn’t created a great deal of grudges. And economically compared to the EU, Russia has little to offer.

And when your lone aircraft carrier is a scow, and with a declinining population, there is not much they can do but annoy these days.

Poland does not, but most ex-Soviet republics have a large Russian minority living there. These people used to be a pampered elite with favored access to the best jobs and education. Now they find themselves often on the other end: in some Baltic states they have to pass a language test to be allowed to even vote.

Byelarus is the only state that seems amenable to reunification right now, but that is mainly becuase it is doing even worse than Russia economically.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2019 • 1:38:19am

re: #369 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Devin Nunes look a bit like John Oliver without the glasses (or the humor)

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2019 • 3:01:31am

re: #373 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Devin Nunes look a bit like John Oliver without the glasses (or the humor)

If I were the judge in Nunes’ lawsuit, I’d sentence him for his frivolous lawsuit… to listening without end to Perry Como for the rest of the decade:

Perry Como - 100 Hits - The Definitive Anthology (5 HOURS of Pop)

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2019 • 3:16:22am

Oh look… Amazon Prime added Farscape seasons 1-4…

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John Hughes  Apr 9, 2019 • 3:33:10am

re: #59 William Lewis

The real problem is that they’re probably running the version of the day of Windows and that’s what the drive is designed to attack.

Windows? How stupid could you be if you used Windows in any kind of computer forensics?

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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2019 • 3:37:00am

Lend Me a Kitten
I will lend to you for awhile a kitten, God said.
For you to love while he lives, and mourn when he’s dead.
Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three.
But will you, ‘till I call him back, take care of him for me?

He’ll bring his charms to gladden you and, should his stay be brief
You’ll always have his memories as solace for your grief.
I cannot promise he will stay, since all from earth return.
But there are lessons taught below I want this kitten to learn.

I’ve looked the whole world over in search of teachers true.
And from the folk that crowds life’s land I have chosen you.
Now will you give him all your love, nor think the labor vain?
Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again?

I fancied that I heard them say ‘Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done’
For all the joys this kitten brings the risk of grief we’ll run.
We’ll shelter him with tenderness, we’ll love him while we may.
And for the happiness we’ve known, forever grateful stay.

But should you call him back much sooner than we planned,
We’ll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand.
If, by our love we’ve managed your wishes to achieve,
Then in memory of him whom we loved, please help us while we grieve.
When our cherished kitten departs this world of strife,
Please send yet another needing soul for us to love all his life.

Author Unknown

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 9, 2019 • 4:15:46am
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Weaselone  Apr 9, 2019 • 4:43:30am

re: #365 Targetpractice

Third - The Upward Monetary Redistribution Act (aka the Trump Tax Cuts) cut a lot of people off from the Earned Income Tax Credit by moving their tax brackets, either cut or eliminated various tax deductions, and altered the withholding tables so as to give people the illusion of getting a “pay raise.” All of these raised taxes on the middle class, such that many are finding themselves owning for the first time in their lives, wiping out any “savings” from the reduction in the raw rates.

80% of people may have recieved a tax cut, but 80% of people didn’t see the tax cut, let alone 4000 extra dollars. The tax cut was simply too biased towards the upper earners, leaving everyone else with coffee money if they were lucky. Plus, Trump’s fuckery with the insurance market probably guaranteed that for many any tax cut got gobbled up by an increase in their portion of medical insurance premiums, so there was ultimately no increase in the check or wire amounts they received each pay period. Now, throw in the decreased withholdings and elimination of deductions and these individuals who saw Trump change in their weekly paychecks are seeing a decrease in their tax refund checks, or even having to write another check.to the government. It’s not surprising most people think there taxes actually went up.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 9, 2019 • 4:45:46am

re: #380 Weaselone

these individuals who saw Trump change in their weekly paychecks are seeing a decrease in their tax refund checks,

Shorthand for “nickels and dimes”?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 9, 2019 • 4:47:55am

As Jeff will undoubtedly say… Good Morning!

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:01:41am

re: #382 Dave In Austin

I thought that what the oven’s auto-clean function was for.
//
I REALLY hope that was a joke.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:04:26am
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Dave In Austin  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:16:16am
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:23:00am

re: #304 Ferdinand

My cousin shared this on Facebook about his brother’s death:

Morning.

As an artist, I can appreciate what you wrote. I always wanted to be a fine/classical artist, but I realized it could be a tough life so I went into commercial arts like advertising design and illustration. Now that I am at retirement age, I still hope to do some painting.

So sorry to hear about what happened to your brother. It is such an American tragedy story. We have way too many of them.

I hope your family can find peace considering the unnatural way his life ended. It should not have been.

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jeffreyw  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:23:42am

Who you lookin’ at?

Good morning!

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:32:22am

re: #387 jeffreyw

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:33:51am

re: #385 Dave In Austin

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President Donald Trump.

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:39:37am

re: #353 De Kolta Chair

A message from Miss Marple

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Only one of the Democratic men is actually running on being white, and he’s not exactly a Democrat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:40:13am

re: #388 Shropshire Slasher

looks a bit like one of the navigators from Dune

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Citizen K  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:42:57am

And thus the water carrying for conservatism continues.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 5:44:07am

re: #250 Chrysicat

Why am I not surprised there are already 20 Republitrolls spouting the opinion that this is a good thing because we need to change the entire country’s culture so that not only does no one expect a tax refund, no one even wants one “because it’s giving an interest-free loan to a defective government, and you should always want only to write the smallest check possible, but WRITE A CHECK”?

from a pure finance perspective that’s true. defective government or not
you control your money.
you pay at the latest time possible.

otoh, the amount of annual interest forgone by the ‘average’ refund is not that great - maybe $20-50

one big reason why payroll tax withholding became a thing was because people didnt have all the money at the end of the year to pay. they’d already spent it.

i find it interesting that people who pay quarterly estimated taxes are far less likely to overpay and expect a refund, than people who have paycheck withholding. also estimated tax payers are more likely to apply overpayments to next year’s tax to reduce the next quarterly payment in lieu of a refund. the timing makes it obvious.

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Mattand  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:00:06am

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I never know how to react to these “Murder the rich” memes/jokes. I mean, I get the impetus behind it: rich people are constantly fucking over the poor and lower classes, and you can only push people so far before they strike back. You can only have so much income inequality in a society before shit goes sideways.

On the other hand: it’s basically a straight out call for murder. This seems like it’s becoming a constant refrain over at the Pharynugla blog, run by outspoken atheist and supposed pacifist PZ Meyers. He and his readers seem to be calling for this idea more and more. I’m fairly confident that some of the readers there are not joking when they hint that if given the chance, they will help in mass executions to make things “right”.

Which doesn’t help when all of the MAGAts see stuff like that and go “See? You people are worse!”, as they gleefully celebrate more child separations of brown people at the border.

Maybe I’m just tone-trolling. I don’t know. I don’t know that many rich people, but most of the ones I’ve encountered are sociopath-adjacent. Some are self-made, others are Trump-style “Born on third, thinking they hit a triple.” All of ‘em are definitely Republicans, which means they’re naturlly inclined to put power and party before country and humanity.

LOL, maybe when I win a mega jackpot lottery, I’ll have a diffferent perspective.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:00:53am

Pluck yer magic twanger overdey, Froggy:
The Ghoul, aka legendary ’70s TV horror host Ron Sweed, has died

Ron Sweed, the horror host who became a hit on early 1970s Detroit TV in a haze of firecrackers, absurdist humor and the never-ending torture of his sidekick Froggy, has died in Cleveland at the age of 70.

Friends say he had suffered a heart attack in November, and never fully recovered. Sweed died Monday, according to multiple family friends and a Facebook post by his ex-wife, Barbara J. King.

The census of things he destroyed with his omnipresent firecrackers on Channel 50 (WKBD-TV) was legendary: Mickey Mouse puppets, toilets, model airplanes and pierogi, among other things.

“He was the Hunter S. Thompson of trash,” said Jerry Vile, the Detroit artist, media maker and creator of The Dirty Show. “You didn’t have to be an adult to know he wasn’t playing by the rules. He was everybody’s introduction to anarchy. He influenced a lot of people. He was like the proto-punk. It was true revolution for the hell of it. Blowing up stuff with fireworks — we weren’t supposed to do that. But here he was, doing it on the TV.”

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:07:13am

re: #393 Man, DangerMan

Take it a step further.

The GOP and Trump claimed you could file a tax return on a postcard.

How’d that work out this year? It didn’t. The return was the same length and size. Why?

For one thing, tax prep companies lobby to prevent a simplified return where the IRS already fills in all the information that already feeds into the IRS via W2, 1099, and other corporate filings from brokerages and financial companies and employers.

They could feed all that in to the IRS and the taxpayer can call up their return that is prefilled, and all the taxpayer has to do is indicate that the return is complete, or that they want to identify additional credits, deductions, etc., above the standard deduction.

It still wouldn’t be a postcard, but that would speed the tax prep process, since the IRS already has the data needed to compute the tax due unless you are going to take one of the handful of remaining deductions or credits, or seek to itemize.

Most Americans would benefit from that system. Tax prep companies wouldn’t.

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:08:37am

re: #393 Man, DangerMan

one big reason why payroll tax withholding became a thing was because people didnt have all the money at the end of the year to pay. they’d already spent it.

i find it interesting that people who pay quarterly estimated taxes are far less likely to overpay and expect a refund, than people who have paycheck withholding. also estimated tax payers are more likely to apply overpayments to next year’s tax to reduce the next quarterly payment in lieu of a refund. the timing makes it obvious.

They’re kind of related, and there also why people like having extra withheld. People are lousy savers. There’s always that one emergency or just that one cheap nice thing to have - like a trip to the movies - that takes a little bit out of your check. If you can’t see it, then you can’t spend it.

Tell people all they have to do to have a thousand at the end of the year is to put away $20 per week, and at the end of the year they will have $0. School fees, sudden expenses, etc, will cause them to pull from that pool. Let someone else take it out, and they can’t get to it until refund time.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:08:57am

A while ago I shared a video about Jaguar’s concept EV E-type car. Turns out Aston-Martin has the same idea. This proof-of-concept car is an all-electric DB6.

Aston Martin DB6 classic electric conversion | Fully Charged

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:14:34am

re: #394 Mattand

Which doesn’t help when all of the MAGAts see stuff like that and go “See? You people are worse!”, as they gleefully celebrate more child separations of brown people at the border.

If we weren’t going after the rich, they would use abortion to justify it. If we didn’t support abortion, they’d use our support for minorities to justify it.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:20:12am
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Citizen K  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:31:31am

I…..fucking….what….

Everything is fucking going fucking ass backwards and I fucking hate it.

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jeffreyw  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:32:23am

re: #295 gocart mozart

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nines09  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:40:54am

re: #304 Ferdinand

So very sorry.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:41:06am
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Belafon  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:46:09am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

We need to make this a holiday.

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Ferdinand  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:49:52am

Thanks all very much for the comments on my cousin’s death. Life comes at you fast sometimes. If you don’t slow down you might miss it.

Off to the salt mines. Pax.

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William Lewis  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:52:15am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

That reminds me…

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 9, 2019 • 6:53:45am

Sure, I know it’s just a coincidence, but still….

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:01:02am

re: #395 Eric The Fruit Bat

Pluck yer magic twanger overdey, Froggy:
The Ghoul, aka legendary ’70s TV horror host Ron Sweed, has died

I think he took some of his shtick from Ghoulardi (Ernie Anderson) from Cleveland TV Channel 8 back in the mid-60s.

He was every 8 to 12 year old kid’s hip scary movie host.

Wikipedia - Ghoulardi

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:06:15am

Wake up with a cold. Watching the Republicans telling Barr to investigate Mueller and he’s agreeing to that.

And when Democrats question him he does the usual Republican shtick, he lies his ass off!

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:06:18am

re: #409 ObserverArt

I think he took some of his shtick from Ghoulardi (Ernie Anderson) from Cleveland TV Channel 8 back in the mid-60s.

He was every 8 to 12 year old kids hip scary movie host.

Wikipedia - Ghoulardi

Philly, and then NYC, both had John Zacherle - the ‘Cool Ghoul.’ He also went on to become an FM DJ on WNEW-FM when ‘underground radio’ became a thing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:11:31am

Oh also today KKKandy Owens goes before the House Judiciary Committee to tell them how great Hitler was…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:15:08am

re: #411 makeitstop

Philly, and then NYC, both had John Zacherle - the ‘Cool Ghoul.’ He also went on to become an FM DJ on WNEW-FM when ‘underground radio’ became a thing.

I remember Zacherle!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:35:49am

Trump is such a petty and cruel asshole…

Although Alles’ removal seemed sudden, the New York Times reported the former Secret Service director had fallen afoul of the president after the agency blamed a Mar-a-Lago security breach on Trump’s staffers. Some officials told the newspaper on Monday that although plans had already been made for Alles’ removal before the arrest of a suspicious Chinese woman carrying malware was made at Mar-a-Lago last week, they believe the incident helped accelerate his leave.

Trump had been so frustrated with the retired Marine major general that he nicknamed him Dumbo, a reference to Alles’ large ears, and mocked his appearance before ousting him from office, two officials told the Times.

Murray, Alles’ replacement, is a career Secret Service employee, previously in the role of deputy assistant director of protective operations.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:37:44am
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:44:00am

I never read the Wikipeda on Ghoulardi, the Cleveland horror movie host. This paragraph shows how a simple TV character can have so much influence over youngsters that got into Cleveland (and even LA) rock, punk and art bands.

Ghoulardi’s influence ultimately inspired the music and performance styles of a number of rock and punk bands from Cleveland and Akron, Ohio. The self-proclaimed “psychobilly” band, The Cramps, named their 1990 album Stay Sick! and dedicated their 1997 album, Big Beat From Badsville, to Ghoulardi’s memory. David Thomas, of art rock band Pere Ubu, said that the Cramps were “so thoroughly co-optive of the Ghoulardi persona that when they first appeared in the 1970s, Clevelanders of the generation were fairly dismissive.” Thomas credits Ghoulardi for influencing the “otherness” of the Cleveland/Akron bands of the mid-1970s and early-1980s, including the Electric Eels, The Mirrors, the Cramps, and Thomas’s own groups, Pere Ubu and Rocket From The Tombs, declaring, “We were the Ghoulardi kids.” Members of Devo and The Dead Boys have also cited Ghoulardi as a strong influence.[4][5] Pretenders founder Chrissie Hynde, an Akron native, referred to Ghoulardi as a local “guru”: “He had his own language and we idolized him, the Beat version of a ghoul.”[6]

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:44:59am

This fucking guy.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:45:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:49:40am

Maybe we won’t get our hands on the Mueller report until a Democrat is in the White House again.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:49:48am

He’ll just do it spontaneously.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:52:21am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:52:52am

re: #415 The Vicious Babushka

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dailykos.com

Republicans have launched a new wave of attacks on Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), this time for daring to call white nationalist White House adviser Stephen Miller a white nationalist. “Stephen Miller is a white nationalist,” Omar tweeted on Monday, correctly, in response to news that Miller continues to push Donald Trump toward ever more hateful and abusive staffing decisions. But since Miller is also Jewish, Republicans are attacking Omar with the claim that calling a Jewish white nationalist a white nationalist is somehow anti-Semitic.

Let’s be clear: Stephen Miller is a white nationalist.

White nationalist leader Richard Spencer claims him as a longtime ally. Miller also has ties with groups like the David Horowitz Freedom Center and the Center for Immigration Studies. Miller has echoed white nationalist claims about the Emma Lazarus poem on the Statue of Liberty. He’s been a racist since adolescence, even reportedly ending a friendship because he couldn’t be friends with a Latino.

Stephen Miller is a white nationalist.

Miller’s own uncle has written about how the policies Miller “so coolly espouses” would have prevented his own family from escaping pogroms in Eastern Europe by coming to the U.S. Because, yes, Miller has repeatedly pushed white nationalist policies from his position at Donald Trump’s right hand. Miller was an architect of Trump’s Muslim ban. He’s not only an architect of Trump’s vile family separation policy, he’s a ghoul who “actually enjoys seeing those pictures at the border.” He’s pushed to target citizenship for legal immigrants and to strip nutrition benefits from U.S. citizen children whose parents are immigrants.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:54:40am

It’s the coverup that gets you.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:56:10am

re: #422 Joe Bacon 🌹

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:58:09am
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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:59:11am

re: #401 Citizen K

I remember when the cost of having to file your State and Federal income tax was the cost of postage. Now it costs me $100 for the privilege.
Thank you Charles for the spell checkar so to spell privilege correctly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:59:15am

re: #425 jaunte

“Within a week”

Yeah, right.

Also, notice how he said “much of” and not “All of”

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2019 • 7:59:41am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:00:34am

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SteelPH  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:03:01am

re: #428 The Vicious Babushka

Gotta love it when dipshits like Don Jr. accuse us of being fans of people we’ve probably never heard of.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:06:27am
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Belafon  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:12:29am

re: #431 jaunte

I’m sure the KKK members will be surprised to know that.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:14:23am
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:15:39am

re: #430 SteelPH

Gotta love it when dipshits like Don Jr. accuse us of being fans of people we’ve probably never heard of.

I doubt Donny Jr even knows who Louis Farrakhan is. He probably was told by dear old Daddy Trump who probably has hated Farrakhan forever. It gets passed down.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:16:26am
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:16:41am
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:18:48am

JFC what an idiot.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:20:32am

I’ll stick with Hydrox.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:21:01am

re: #437 jaunte

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JFC what an idiot.

Just waiting for that ass to praise Hitler again…

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:21:44am

re: #437 jaunte

JFC what an idiot.

Let her talk then. She’s going to make herself a laughing stock. Maybe Democrats should start asking her about Q conspiracies.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:22:58am

re: #440 Belafon

Let her talk then. She’s going to make herself a laughing stock. Maybe Democrats should start asking her about Q conspiracies.

Yeah then she gets to the good part—Pizzagate…

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:23:52am

Spring Cleaning Update:

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:26:05am
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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:29:35am

re: #442 The Vicious Babushka

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Citizen K  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:31:32am

re: #443 lawhawk

HOLY SHIT it’s a super mother-fucking massive invasion! Stop the rampaging wave of dirty brown folk slamming against our borders nowwwwwww!!!

They fail to provide proof of this super-massive crisis at the border. And yet they keep getting away with it thanks to fucking credulous media coverage and GOP bad faith.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:33:47am

re: #276 Belafon

At what point does the GOP resist, or admit to being willing collaborators?

When we punish them at the ballot box.

admit? never

resist? we punish them at the ballot box and they go back underground and wait.

they’ll win elections again eventually

what we cant do is allow this kind of filthy thinking to come out again

“never again” indeed

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:36:21am

re: #446 Man, DangerMan

At what point does the GOP resist, or admit to being willing collaborators?

admit? never

resist? we punish them at the ballot box and they go back underground and wait.

they’ll win elections again eventually

what we cant do is allow this kind of filthy thinking to come out again

“never again” indeed

Republicans are addicted to power the same way a junky is addicted to heroin.

And they will lie, cheat and especially steal to get more power.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:36:47am

re: #287 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Watch Trump Spox Hogan Gidley Falsely Claim ‘65 Percent Reduction in Crime’ Thanks to ‘New Border Wall’

“where is this new wall you’re talking about?”

really, no one asks this? no one?

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:36:50am

re: #446 Man, DangerMan

At what point does the GOP resist, or admit to being willing collaborators?

admit? never

resist? we punish them at the ballot box and they go back underground and wait.

they’ll win elections again eventually

what we cant do is allow this kind of filthy thinking to come out again

“never again” indeed

You’re not going to punish them with one election. It has to be a sustained effort, where it’s costing them being racist. No, it’s not easy, but short of us becoming vigilanties ourselves, that’s what it’s going to take.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:36:51am

re: #444 lawhawk

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:39:35am

re: #295 gocart mozart

No way.
Absolutely no way.

AngryMan
@AngryManTV
A Chinese company says its automatic sperm extractor is helping clinics collect semen from donors reluctant to masturbate in a hospital setting.

you know there’s gonna be a portable/home version soon

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:40:06am

re: #299 teleskiguy

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beats any finish line photo i’ve ever been in

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:40:11am

re: #451 Man, DangerMan

you know there’s gonna be a portable/home version soon

Pretty sure those already exist.

/

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:43:40am

re: #448 Man, DangerMan

“where is this new wall you’re talking about?”

really, no one asks this? no one?

The CCCP (Corporate Controlled Conservative Press) needs to stop kissing Trump’s ass.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:45:20am

re: #304 Ferdinand

My cousin shared this on Facebook about his brother’s death:

my first page and post ever on LGF was about gun accountability.

and it’s only gotten worse. much worse.

they want, they promote, they endorse letting people with at best a tangential grip on reality access to guns

i am profoundly sad and angry beyond words.

it never fucking ends.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:46:13am

re: #307 teleskiguy

Because I’m smart or whatever, my guns are not in my house. They’re in a safe at my parents’ place, have been for years. I suffer from depression. It comes in fits and starts. Sometimes it’s really bad. Suicide is an answer for folks in the throughs of depression. Guns are an effective ‘off switch.’

and look at the week you just had!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:47:37am

re: #455 Man, DangerMan

my first page and post ever on LGF was about gun accountability.

and it’s only gotten worse. much worse.

they want, they promote, they endorse letting people with at best a tangential grip on reality access to guns

i am profoundly sad and angry beyond words.

it never fucking ends.

It will only end when the guns are turned on the rich. When that happens, the rich will pour enough bribes into Republican pockets so they will vote for gun confiscation.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:53:08am

re: #366 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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I bet she feels like a chump —- now.

-now that she’s ‘separated’ and ‘distanced’, she’s gonna try and rehab herself.

-not gonna work

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:53:08am

re: #457 Joe Bacon 🌹

It will only end when the guns are turned on the rich. When that happens, the rich will pour enough bribes into Republican pockets so they will vote for gun confiscation.

I do not see anything like that happening. But you must have noticed that very few gun rights supporters presented the arguments that if those Muslims in Christchurch had been packing assault rifles with bump stocks and 30-round magazines that they would all be safe and alive today…

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:55:09am

re: #442 The Vicious Babushka

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:55:44am

re: #459 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not see anything like that happening. But you must have noticed that very few gun rights supporters presented the arguments that if those Muslims in Christchurch had been packing assault rifles with bump stocks and 30-round magazines that they would all be safe and alive today…

The reason you didn’t see those arguments is because the Tiny Penis Club types hate Muslims.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:57:08am

JFC

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2019 • 8:59:14am

For the wingnuts who are screaming about Ilhan Omar being “Anti-Semitic” here is what actual Anti-Semitism looks like:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:00:22am

re: #462 The Vicious Babushka

A second Congressman has now asked the only Muslim person on the panel whether Muslims hate Jews.

This is a hearing on white supremacist violence.

full DARVO going on here
and if there is white supremacist violence, they will insisit that perps were forced into it because muslims and blacks breathe the same air on the same planet…

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:00:53am

re: #396 lawhawk

Take it a step further.

The GOP and Trump claimed you could file a tax return on a postcard.

How’d that work out this year? It didn’t. The return was the same length and size. Why?

For one thing, tax prep companies lobby to prevent a simplified return where the IRS already fills in all the information that already feeds into the IRS via W2, 1099, and other corporate filings from brokerages and financial companies and employers.

They could feed all that in to the IRS and the taxpayer can call up their return that is prefilled, and all the taxpayer has to do is indicate that the return is complete, or that they want to identify additional credits, deductions, etc., above the standard deduction.

It still wouldn’t be a postcard, but that would speed the tax prep process, since the IRS already has the data needed to compute the tax due unless you are going to take one of the handful of remaining deductions or credits, or seek to itemize.

Most Americans would benefit from that system. Tax prep companies wouldn’t.

all true

well over 90% of returns have been efiled since 2015. while the ‘postcard’ was easy to understand metaphor maybe, it was a lie from the start that people were really going to file that way

as to the 1040, they took 3 forms (1040, 1040A, 1040ez) and made them 1 form. cut it in half, and put the other half on the back - to make it look smaller

then they took all the schedules we ‘used to file’ and ….added a bunch of new ones to compensate for all the lines they took off the face of the 1040’s

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:01:58am

re: #397 Belafon

They’re kind of related, and there also why people like having extra withheld. People are lousy savers. There’s always that one emergency or just that one cheap nice thing to have - like a trip to the movies - that takes a little bit out of your check. If you can’t see it, then you can’t spend it.

Tell people all they have to do to have a thousand at the end of the year is to put away $20 per week, and at the end of the year they will have $0. School fees, sudden expenses, etc, will cause them to pull from that pool. Let someone else take it out, and they can’t get to it until refund time.

oh, i dont disagree at all. that’s why i said the interest free loan isnt a big deal. it is an effective ‘christmas club’ (remember those) for many people.

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:03:34am

re: #462 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

“Do Muslims hate Jews?”
“No more than whites hate blacks.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:03:56am

re: #466 Man, DangerMan

oh, i dont disagree at all. that’s why i said the interest free loan isnt a big deal. it is an effective ‘christmas club’ (remember those) for many people.

Yes I remember the Christmas Club accounts and how Mom would always close them after a couple months when an emergency popped up…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:04:52am

Is there not one single decent person in the Trump admin? Not one?

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:07:06am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there not one single decent person in the Trump admin? Not one?

Dan Coats.

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plansbandc  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:07:09am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

Nope.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:07:36am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there not one single decent person in the Trump admin? Not one?

Nope. Every one is totally corrupt.

But that won’t stop Pulpit Pimps like Franky Graham Cracker from BSing about how they are all God Fearing Xtian Patriots!

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:08:30am

re: #449 Belafon

You’re not going to punish them with one election. It has to be a sustained effort, where it’s costing them being racist. No, it’s not easy, but short of us becoming vigilanties ourselves, that’s what it’s going to take.

yes

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:12:42am

Booby Nincompoopo takes a page from the KKKris KKKobach playbook.

talkingpointsmemo.com

In recent years we’ve witnessed the increasing ideological marriage of the Israeli Likud and the American GOP. Nor is it just ideological and cultural. There is increasingly transnational cooperation, with longtime Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu frequently intervening in US politics on Republicans’ behalf. But Likud took a big step today adopting more or less wholesale GOP ‘voter fraud’ tactics to suppress minority voters.

Today is election day in Israel, an election the right again seems likely to win by a narrow but decisive margin. But the big story of the day in the Israeli press is Likud sending party activists to Arab majority precincts with hidden cameras to monitor “voter fraud.” The party reportedly distributed 1200 hidden cameras to activists.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:14:10am

re: #474 Joe Bacon 🌹

JFC.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:15:28am
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:17:18am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there not one single decent person in the Trump admin? Not one?

no

i was re-reading the saturday night masscre
- richardson refused and resigned - rather than do what nixon asked
- Ruckelshaus refused and resigned - rather than doing what nixon asked
- Bork (remember him), the third in line, axed Cox.
— note: Bork said Nixon promised him the next seat on the Supreme Court for firing Cox

ANYONE who works for trump, ANYONE who puts their job before the country is not a decent person.

ANYONE who claims they stay there to be a buffer or the “adult in the room” is an enabler and a liar. And this ‘approach’ hasn’t done anything anyway.

If you have any integrity you never went hear this administration.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:18:11am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:18:27am

re: #476 jaunte

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Just waiting for Dr. Kruse to chime in to school KKKandy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:20:36am

Looks like Dr. Kruse has chimed in!

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:29:12am

re: #476 jaunte

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The worst thing about Candace Owens being in front of Congress is it gives he legitimacy as someone important that needs to be listened to and it feeds her ego.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2019 • 9:34:10am

re: #479 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just waiting for Dr. Kruse to chime in to school KKKandy.

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CarolJ  Apr 9, 2019 • 11:14:06am

re: #405 Belafon

I agree. Confederates get the holidays and the movies. We need to know about the right side of the equation-the liberty side. I mean , all a lot of people know about Grant was that he was some kind of drunk, not that he smashed the Confederacy and as President smashed the original KKK. Where’s Grant’s movie or the Northern Answer to “Gone with the Wind? And can we rehabilitate the reputation of the “Carpetbaggers?”. Sure there were rip-off artists, but a lot of the people went down South to help newly freed slaves and educate them.


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