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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:36:49pm
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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:46:53pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:47:35pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:51:06pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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These are laws that have been on the books for decades, put there to address matters involving corrupt politicians looking to hide evidence of their corruption. In all that time, no president has made a serious effort to challenge their constitutionality. But that’s probably because the bastards who the laws were written to address were so corrupt that no president after them wanted to be seen as descending to that level…until now.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:53:50pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:55:49pm

Consider that the most modern president seen as a symbol of corruption and power abuse, Richard “Tricky Dick” Nixon, did something that Trump has now had his henchmen swear will never happen on his watch: Released his tax returns to the public.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:56:58pm
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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:57:03pm

re: #5 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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A thought on this: Everything Trump did in the United States was done in a state. And, funnily enough, the state he spent most of his time in hates him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2019 • 6:57:38pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:00:29pm

We keep hearing about what a “hoax” and “fraud” the Steele Dossier is, yet the only item on it that they have ever been able to even contest is Cohen being in Prague.

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:00:37pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:01:11pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:01:19pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Glenn is completely gone. It’s sad that I remember really enjoying his articles when he wrote at Salon. That was so long ago.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:03:25pm

re: #13 Patricia Kayden

Glenn is completely gone. It’s sad that I remember really enjoying his articles when he wrote at Salon. That was so long ago.

I wonder who’s paying him to be a shill for Trump and the GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:06:02pm

re: #14 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I wonder who’s paying him to be a shill for Trump and the GOP.

My guess is Russia.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:08:53pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

My guess is Russia.

Or someone like Peter Thiel.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:09:32pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:10:45pm
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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:11:47pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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They’re going to protect preexisting conditions. The people with them, not so much.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:12:38pm

re: #19 Belafon

They’re going to protect preexisting conditions. The people with them, not so much.

So as to reduce the surplus population.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:15:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:16:39pm

re: #20 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

So as to reduce the surplus population.

If your annual income is over $40 000, you are allowed coverage if you have a preexisting condition.

If your annual income is over $75 000, you are allowed coverage if you have up to two preexisting conditions.

If your annual income is over $200 000 you are allowed coverage if you have up to three preexisting conditions.

If your annual income is over $3 million you are allowed coverage if you have up to six preexisting conditions.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:17:45pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Glenn Beck back on Fox?

*retch*

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:18:33pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

If your annual income is over $40 000, you are allowed coverage if you have a preexisting condition.

If your annual income is over $75 000, you are allowed coverage if you have up to two preexisting conditions.

If your annual income is over $200 000 you are allowed coverage if you have up to three preexisting conditions.

If your annual income is over $3 million you are allowed coverage if you have up to six preexisting conditions.

A couple years ago, it would have been obvious you were joking.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:19:34pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

If your annual income is over $40 000, you are allowed coverage if you have a preexisting condition.

If your annual income is over $75 000, you are allowed coverage if you have up to two preexisting conditions.

If your annual income is over $200 000 you are allowed coverage if you have up to three preexisting conditions.

If your annual income is over $3 million you are allowed coverage if you have up to six preexisting conditions.

Don’t forget the unlimited number of 7-11 coin cans and church bake sales if your income is below $40K!

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Old Liberal  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:22:44pm

re: #19 Belafon

They’re going to protect preexisting conditions. The people with them, not so much.

You’ll be able to purchase insurance you just won’t be able to afford the $20000 to $40000 per Year or more.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:25:33pm

This fucking guy

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:26:02pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How dumb do you have to be to believe that Republicans give a damn about healthcare for the majority of (working and middle class) Americans? Their only plan is “Don’t get sick”.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:28:16pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

This fucking guy

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:28:28pm

Possibly shared already but…

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:32:00pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

Trump’s huge tax cut for wealthy folk like Schultz has caused “overwhelming debt”. Speak on that, Howard.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:36:02pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:36:36pm

re: #29 Belafon

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“‘You’ll lose your current healthcare…’ because you’ll be getting covered for little to no out of pocket cost” doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker as well.

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:37:23pm

re: #32 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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“Little Marco,” Donny’s bitch and the guy who swore he wouldn’t run for reelection until he did after he lost the nomination?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:38:43pm

Ok so who did The Ultimate Panty Raid?

losangeles.cbslocal.com

Police in Lower Allen Township say someone stole $21,000 worth of panties from a Victoria’s Secret on Sunday. The incident happened around 3 p.m. at the store inside the Capital City Mall.

According to police, the thief stole 2,000 pairs of panties from Victoria’s Secret, totaling $21,000.

Police say the thief stole the panties that were on the front display and all the ones in the drawers below the display while store employees were busy with customers.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:39:41pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

“We will all have affordable, comprehensive healthcare!”

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:41:38pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ok so who did The Ultimate Panty Raid?

losangeles.cbslocal.com

Police in Lower Allen Township say someone stole $21,000 worth of panties from a Victoria’s Secret on Sunday. The incident happened around 3 p.m. at the store inside the Capital City Mall.

According to police, the thief stole 2,000 pairs of panties from Victoria’s Secret, totaling $21,000.

Police say the thief stole the panties that were on the front display and all the ones in the drawers below the display while store employees were busy with customers.

Wanted for questioning:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:45:40pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:45:41pm

That Outer Space IMAX is working just great.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:46:59pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Wanted for questioning:

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He’s got an alibi!

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:50:13pm

They are comming out of the woodwork

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:50:47pm

re: #32 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Cilliza. Worst Pokemon ever.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:52:34pm

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:54:07pm
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Varek Raith  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:57:58pm

re: #42 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Cilliza. Worst Pokemon ever.

Ha!

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 7:58:00pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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As we know with Stephen Miller, it’s not always the case, but I bet the dad makes some questionable statements in the privacy of his home.

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:00:30pm
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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:02:26pm

re: #47 gocart mozart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:05:20pm

re: #47 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:12:17pm
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uriel  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:15:23pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:25:35pm

Now I have two racists in my mentions debating racist political science

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BlueGrl21  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:30:28pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

Now I have two racists in my mentions debating racist political science

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Ok, that probably shouldn’t be funny, but it is. :)

It’s like two Star Wars geeks dissecting Sith Lord rankings in the series.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:35:26pm

Does someone have a link to what Omar actually said? “Some people did things” does seem a little disrespectful considering the gravity of the incident.

Though I am sure her remarks are being taken out of context.

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:42:41pm
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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:44:40pm

re: #55 gocart mozart

ugh

such a superior specimen of the human race… i don’t think

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:49:06pm

I want to pick your brains as to what I should do here. I’m going through my instructions for my upcoming trip to Japan, and the tour guide suggests a piece of luggage that holds 70 to 90 liters and a daypack that holds 35 to 50 liters.

Now this is the deal—I took a suitcase with about 110 liters of space to Japan last October and I SWORE up and down that I would not take a large suitcase again, that I’d slender down to a carry-on (even if I checked it). It was a right royal pain in the ass to haul that thing around Japan, up and down stairs, on and off buses, trolleys, shinkansens, a speed catamaran—holy crap I so do not EVER want to do that again in my life.

A 110 liter suitcase is about 29 inches high. I’m definitely not taking that.

Here’s the sizes of the other two suitcases:
A 73 liter suitcase is about 26 inches high x 10.75 inches deep x 17.5 inches wide.
A 40 liter suitcase is about 21 inches high x 9 inches deep x 14 inches wide.

And yes, that is a SIGNIFICANT volume difference.

Should I go with my initial and continuing gut feeling and get a 21 inch carry on that I intend to check in, based on my previous experience and my expectation that I would have to pack very light? Or go with the larger one, which is actually a “medium” size?

Also, if anyone has suggestions as for a good brand, I’m all ears. I’ve read so many reviews and even more expensive pieces of luggage have ZIPPER ISSUES. *sigh*

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:51:12pm

Karma ran over her dogma..

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:54:22pm
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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:56:53pm

re: #58 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Karma ran over her dogma..

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hearts and flowers

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 8:59:24pm

How to define the galaxy we got the black hole picture from, a thread:

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:07:32pm

re: #57 mmmirele

How long is the trip? And what non-clothing stuff do you intend to bring?

I traveled around Japan for a month with only a small shoulder bag and an Osprey Farpoint 55L backpack with removable daypack. The shoulder bag carried my wallet, passport, and other important items and doubled as a camera bag on outings. The Osprey backpack is separable, so I used the daypack portion as a carry-on and checked the larger part.

The previous year I spent a month in Malaysia with a much simpler backpack — a bookbag, really — and a small roller bag. The roller bag was a pain, especially when traveling on public transport. It’s what prompted me to get the Osprey pack, on the recommendation of my son, who also has one.

If a backpack doesn’t appeal to you, go with a small checked bag. I’m in the office, so I can’t check the dimensions of mine, which is a Chinese brand. Despite what the tour guide suggests, you do not really need such a huge bag, unless you plan to be a fashion plate every single day.

Most important: bring two pairs of comfortable shoes. Switching between them will be better for your feet.

Also: packing cubes. I used to scoff at these, but now I have two sets of Eagle Creek packing cubes. They really do help keep clothes organized and compacted down.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:10:30pm

re: #58 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Karma ran over her dogma..

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Good. May she be shunned for the rest of her miserable worthless life!

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:18:45pm

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

This fucking guy

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Howard Schultz—FIX THE TYPEFACE!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:22:58pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:27:02pm

re: #64 BeachDem

Howard Schultz—FIX THE TYPEFACE!

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I really believe that ass is in the race because he wants to be the 2020 Jill Stein to keep Trump in the Presidency for more tax cuts and then putting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid on the cutting block.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:29:20pm

re: #58 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Karma ran over her dogma..

Yeah…I’m not toasting yet.

World order’s changed and lot of folk have less shame.

If she’s unemployable, it’s because she got caught. Question becomes how long until someone decides that’s crossed the horizon….

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:29:38pm

re: #62 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The trip is two weeks. Non-clothing stuff I am bringing might include a DSLR, a MacBook, a cellphone, chargers, an umbrella (collapsible, small, used in Japan before), a jacket and maybe some small handmade gifts if I can find the time to make them, two medication syringes that are non-negligible in size and my glucose meter and supplies. Since it’s Japan, I’m skipping pretty much all the toiletries except for hair gel and a comb.

The more I think about it, the more I’m thinking that the 21 inch suitcase is what I should get.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:30:01pm

re: #66 Joe Bacon 🌹

I really believe that ass is in the race because he wants to be the 2020 Jill Stein to keep Trump in the Presidency for more tax cuts and then putting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid on the cutting block.

Except he’s not even attracting Stein voters. Even Tulsi Gabbard is getting more looks than him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:34:19pm

re: #69 Belafon

Except he’s not even attracting Stein voters. Even Tulsi Gabbard is getting more looks than him.

It would be fitting if there were more Mickey Mouse write-ins than Howard votes.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:34:38pm

re: #68 mmmirele

The trip is two weeks. Non-clothing stuff I am bringing might include a DSLR, a MacBook, a cellphone, chargers, an umbrella (collapsible, small, used in Japan before), a jacket and maybe some small handmade gifts if I can find the time to make them, two medication syringes that are non-negligible in size and my glucose meter and supplies. Since it’s Japan, I’m skipping pretty much all the toiletries except for hair gel and a comb.

The more I think about it, the more I’m thinking that the 21 inch suitcase is what I should get.

This is the set I use to travel everywhere (there are more colors than green). It’s a very easy set to carry around, and I’ve found it very sturdy. Also, it doesn’t need to be checked.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:35:07pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

David Brooks exists to be Rush Limbaugh for people who think table manners are a sign of intellect.

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Interesting Times  Apr 10, 2019 • 9:55:52pm

re: #54 Eclectic Cyborg

Does someone have a link to what Omar actually said? “Some people did things” does seem a little disrespectful considering the gravity of the incident.

Though I am sure her remarks are being taken out of context.

Of course. It’s a time-honored technique of the Bad Faith Bigot Brigade®:

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:06:05pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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There is no fucking review. It is raw data. The returns. Pure and simple. Done nothing wrong, no need to worry.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:15:52pm

re: #73 Interesting Times

Yup, from HuffPo’s write up:

While much of her speech focused on the challenges of being a Muslim in America, one line in particular has proved agitating: “CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something, and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.”

(CAIR was actually founded in 1994 but stepped up its work to promote Muslim civil rights after the 2001 terrorist attacks.)

Her speech was mostly about the fact that so much of the conservative movement accuses Muslim Americans of dual loyalties and questions their patriotism.

I really hope that after the last couple of weeks, the Democratic leadership doesn’t freak the fuck out again and insist on passing some stupid resolution.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:20:34pm

re: #71 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

This is the set I use to travel everywhere (there are more colors than green). It’s a very easy set to carry around, and I’ve found it very sturdy. Also, it doesn’t need to be checked.

I’m a crazy person when it comes to travel… I still use a duffle bag.

Although if I can get one of those Jeremy Clarkson carry ons, I might have to rethink it:

The Grand Tour: Suitcase v Laptop

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:24:28pm

re: #76 KGxvi

I’m a crazy person when it comes to travel… I still use a duffle bag.

Although if I can get one of those Jeremy Clarkson carry ons, I might have to rethink it:

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Hey, whatever works for you.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:42:22pm

re: #68 mmmirele

The trip is two weeks. Non-clothing stuff I am bringing might include a DSLR, a MacBook, a cellphone, chargers, an umbrella (collapsible, small, used in Japan before), a jacket and maybe some small handmade gifts if I can find the time to make them, two medication syringes that are non-negligible in size and my glucose meter and supplies. Since it’s Japan, I’m skipping pretty much all the toiletries except for hair gel and a comb.

The more I think about it, the more I’m thinking that the 21 inch suitcase is what I should get.

Sounds like a good plan. When in doubt, travel light. Unless you’re traveling to some remote part of the world, where items might be hard to find, bring only what you absolutely must have with you. Anything else you can buy there, including a cheap suitcase.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:45:16pm

I’m not too well versed in health care policy cost analysis but they seem to have left out all the uninsured that would be insured in their calculations.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:47:06pm

LOL

Candice Patton plays Iris West-Allen on TV. Her real world politics are far different from Candace Owens’.

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William Lewis  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:47:30pm

re: #68 mmmirele

The trip is two weeks. Non-clothing stuff I am bringing might include a DSLR, a MacBook, a cellphone, chargers, an umbrella (collapsible, small, used in Japan before), a jacket and maybe some small handmade gifts if I can find the time to make them, two medication syringes that are non-negligible in size and my glucose meter and supplies. Since it’s Japan, I’m skipping pretty much all the toiletries except for hair gel and a comb.

The more I think about it, the more I’m thinking that the 21 inch suitcase is what I should get.

I always preferred a backpack, largish but not seriously large, for travel in Asia. OTOH, I was only 38 when last there in 2002 for the adoption. Have you considered a iPad instead of a full size computer?

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piratedan  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:53:15pm

re: #79 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

guessing David Anderson over at Balloon Juice will break this down tomorrow.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:54:58pm

re: #81 William Lewis

I always preferred a backpack, largish but not seriously large, for travel in Asia. OTOH, I was only 38 when last there in 2002 for the adoption. Have you considered a iPad instead of a full size computer?

I did. Picked up a tablet with detachable keyboard and left my Lenovo laptop back home. The tablet has HDMI output and some of places I stayed had HDMI-capable TVs.

But, editing a book with a tablet is no fun. That’s what I did last winter in Vietnam. I was glad my Airbnb in Danang had a modern TV I could connect to.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:57:34pm

Bad writing thread.

The author being quoted is Edmund White, who is 79 and perhaps struggling with appropriate similes.

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ckkatz  Apr 10, 2019 • 10:58:41pm

re: #68 mmmirele

The trip is two weeks. Non-clothing stuff I am bringing might include a DSLR, a MacBook, a cellphone, chargers, an umbrella (collapsible, small, used in Japan before), a jacket and maybe some small handmade gifts if I can find the time to make them, two medication syringes that are non-negligible in size and my glucose meter and supplies. Since it’s Japan, I’m skipping pretty much all the toiletries except for hair gel and a comb.

The more I think about it, the more I’m thinking that the 21 inch suitcase is what I should get.

I cannot say how much space you should bring along. It depends upon very personal decisions. For example, me being 6’5” and fairly large, and wearing size 15 wide shoes, my space needs are probably quite different than yours.

And there are different approaches. A lady friend used to pack so that she could carry on everything. I cannot do that.

However, for backpacking a good metric is a 60 liter pack for a 2-5 day hike. And usually one can easily stuff 40 lbs into one. Which is enough weight for me. (Add food, water, and a few misc items to this.)

Also, different backpack styles are made to fit different body types. I would recommend that if you decide to get a pack, that you try it on at a reputable place, such as REI.

In terms of what you might want to get, I understand that there are basically three types of luggage these days. Suitcase style, suitcase style with backpack straps, and regular backpacks.

One place that I start my search when I am looking at a purchase is wirecutter.com Obviously, they are only a start. These may give you ideas:

thewirecutter.com
thewirecutter.com

And yes, just like Wheat-Dogg, they highly recommend the Osprey Fairpoint. In my case, the straps may be a bit too close together to comfortably fit my body type. And yes, my approach is similar to Wheat-Dogg’s.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:03:59pm

re: #28 Patricia Kayden

How dumb do you have to be to believe that Republicans give a damn about healthcare for the majority of (working and middle class) Americans? Their only plan is “Don’t get sick”.

They have a backup plan; “have a lot of money.”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:05:33pm

re: #85 ckkatz

The hip and sternum straps really make a difference. Since I try to pack light, the pack is not too hard on my 63-year-old knees and ankles. Roller bags have their place, but for trekking around from place to place, they are more a nuisance than a boon. I only use my roller bag for my annual junket back to see the fam, and the smaller one for a short trip to some hotel somewhere in China..

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:07:41pm

Another option is to send your stuff back to the States instead of lugging it back with you. There is a service called the Luggage Club that can arrange shipping. I looked into it, but their fees are too high. Using the local postal service or even UPS/FedEx/DHL would probably be cheaper.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:09:19pm

re: #87 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The hip and sternum straps really make a difference. Since I try to pack light, the pack is not too hard on my 63-year-old knees and ankles. Roller bags have their place, but for trekking around from place to place, they are more a nuisance than a boon. I only use my roller bag for my annual junket back to see the fam, and the smaller one for a short trip to some hotel somewhere in China..

Sadly, I can’t put any kind of weight on my left shoulder. So, roller bag.

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ckkatz  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:12:59pm

re: #87 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The hip and sternum straps really make a difference. Since I try to pack light, the pack is not too hard on my 63-year-old knees and ankles. Roller bags have their place, but for trekking around from place to place, they are more a nuisance than a boon. I only use my roller bag for my annual junket back to see the fam, and the smaller one for a short trip to some hotel somewhere in China..

I agree with you on the straps. I went to try on the fairpoint at a local REI. Without even measuring me, the ‘backpack’ salesguy politely suggested that I also look at Gregory packs. He was right.

And yes, I agree, luggage wheels outside of hotel and airport floors don’t seem to do me much good either.

Your point on traveling light when in civilization, is also spot on.

It is amazing how much stuff we pack that we end up not needing. Which is the point of the first basic training 10 or 20 mile march. Plus, when you pick up something at the destination, it is likely to be more meaningful than a similar item brought from home.

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ckkatz  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:22:10pm

re: #88 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Another option is to send your stuff back to the States instead of lugging it back with you. There is a service called the Luggage Club that can arrange shipping. I looked into it, but their fees are too high. Using the local postal service or even UPS/FedEx/DHL would probably be cheaper.

I remember back in the 1970s when I was traveling back and forth to the Middle East. I would catch a connecting flight at JFK. Which, in those days had a habit of losing checked through bags.

On the way there I would always collect my bag from the internal US flight and then personally check it onto the international flight. On the way home I would just check it through. In those days, if it arrived so many hours after the passenger, the airlines would actually drop it off at one’s home the next day. I may have been fortunate because I never lost a bag.

Of course that was before the airline figured out that they could save a lot of money by cutting back on service.

The first time I flew that route, I did not know this. So I checked my luggage through on the way into the site. And it took three days for my luggage to catch up with me. It was an uncomfortable three days.

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ckkatz  Apr 10, 2019 • 11:27:24pm

Well off to bed with me…

And for the heck of it, some lame jokes:

Why is a dog like a cellphone?
Both have collar id

What do you get when you cross a racing dog with a bee?
a greyhound buzz

What do get when you cross a yellow dog with a phone?
A golden receiver

What kind of wild dog meditates?
Aware wolf

What is the difference between a dog and a marine biologist?
One wags tails and the other tags whales

Why did the three legged dog walk into the western saloon?
He was looking for the man who shot his paw.

And final one:

What do you get when you cross a dog with a calculator?
A friend you can count on!

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 12:33:13am

re: #27 The Vicious Babushka

This fucking guy

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180 million?
cause all doesn’t mean all?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 12:44:47am

re: #57 mmmirele

I want to pick your brains as to what I should do here. I’m going through my instructions for my upcoming trip to Japan, and the tour guide suggests a piece of luggage that holds 70 to 90 liters and a daypack that holds 35 to 50 liters.

Now this is the deal—I took a suitcase with about 110 liters of space to Japan last October and I SWORE up and down that I would not take a large suitcase again, that I’d slender down to a carry-on (even if I checked it). It was a right royal pain in the ass to haul that thing around Japan, up and down stairs, on and off buses, trolleys, shinkansens, a speed catamaran—holy crap I so do not EVER want to do that again in my life.

A 110 liter suitcase is about 29 inches high. I’m definitely not taking that.

Here’s the sizes of the other two suitcases:
A 73 liter suitcase is about 26 inches high x 10.75 inches deep x 17.5 inches wide.
A 40 liter suitcase is about 21 inches high x 9 inches deep x 14 inches wide.

And yes, that is a SIGNIFICANT volume difference.

Should I go with my initial and continuing gut feeling and get a 21 inch carry on that I intend to check in, based on my previous experience and my expectation that I would have to pack very light? Or go with the larger one, which is actually a “medium” size?

Also, if anyone has suggestions as for a good brand, I’m all ears. I’ve read so many reviews and even more expensive pieces of luggage have ZIPPER ISSUES. *sigh*

the redoxx airboss
and read onebag.com

I can travel for 2 weeks or more on it. include a suit if necessary and all my running gear.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 11, 2019 • 1:08:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 1:22:39am

re: #96 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Attorney General William Bar said he thinks the U.S. government spied on President Trump’s campaign. He didn’t specify what he was referring to and said he wasn’t alleging that the surveillance was improper.

In terms of media spin, this is a spitball…

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 11, 2019 • 1:38:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 2:30:19am

Vocalise?

That was also what they called the “Trololo” song…but I will not link it here…(it is already going through your heads already without seeing it, right?

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freetoken  Apr 11, 2019 • 2:46:51am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Usually heard is the orchestral arrangement, but it was originally written for a singer (accompanied by piano), to use one vowel, as an instrument. But when you do find a vocal version it is likely to be accompanied by a full orchestra:

Dame Kiri Te Kanawa sings “Vocalise” - Rachmaninoff

It’s harder to find a recording of just voice and piano, but here is an example:

Vocalise Rachmaninoff

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:03:03am

Assange arrested

Julian Assange has been arrested at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder was granted refuge in 2012 while on bail in the UK over sexual assault allegations against him in Sweden.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:06:41am

Hi. Second blizzard in a month now going on.

I’ve stayed logged out but following along.

Jumping in with this tidbit from The Guardian:

Julian Assange Arrested at the Ecuadorian Embassy

The President of Ecuador withdrew Mr. Assange’s political asylum claim. The ambassador then invited the Metropolitan Police in to arrest him.

They executed the warrant they had outstanding for him jumping bail.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:07:35am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

Come back into the fray, I (we) miss you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:07:37am

re: #102 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You beat me by three minutes.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:09:16am

I’m rum talking. That happens late at night. ;)

When I was young (30) we chartered a boat for a couple weeks in the Virgin Islands. One morning at 5:30 AM the first mate woke us all up by waving a Bloody Mary in our face and said, “Wakey, wakey, time to set sail. We were sailing from Cooper Island in the BVI down to St. Croix, about 46 miles away. I was navigator and plotted the wind set, tide set, how tight we could go into the wind without having to tack, and did the calculations. We locked the helm, set the sails and made breakfast and more drinks. The crew was getting sleepy from the food and drink. I don’t think I made it to 9 AM before I fell asleep. I woke up at about 12:30 in the afternoon and looked around, everybody was passed out and we had been sailing for several hours. There were no islands in sight on the horizon so I checked our course and we was still on our original compass setting. The ocean on the passage is very deep and the blue color is disturbing. With no visual navigational landmarks, I had to trust the math. Finally about 3:30 we saw St. Croix and we actually hit the channel into Christianstead Harbor without adjusting the course, all by math, geometry, and dead reckoning. We set anchor about 5:30 that evening, just in time for cocktails. I want to thank the California public education system for the tools to do that. Well except for the sailing part, for that I read a book on how to sail. (also thanks to the California public education system for teaching me to read)

I hope I kept that anecdote coherent at least.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:15:01am

re: #104 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Come back into the fray, I (we) miss you.

Well thanks. I’m not sure how long I’ll be around, as we have scattered power outages in my town right now, and more blocks keep blinking off.

The block across the street from my house is without power (the church and a few houses). I’m on standby in case the water system pumphouse loses power (in which case it’s off to fire up the generators over there).

Road conditions across the Nebraska Panhandle can be rated as “crap.” Pretty much everything is closed, don’t come visit today.

I live under the big pile of stars and do not enter signs in the Nebraska Panhandle on the state road closure map.

hb.511.nebraska.gov

For sucky weather reports in the area:
forecast.weather.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:19:35am

re: #106 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Rum stories.

No fair; I have to avoid the rum in case I need to go out in the blizzard to the water pumphouse. Crap.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:21:24am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:21:27am

re: #102 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:22:24am

US-26 traffic camera just outside town. I don’t think it would matter what kind of vehicle I drove, I’d get nowhere. (I have tire chains for the Smart to get around town, but forget leaving now.)

hb.511.nebraska.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:23:45am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

LOL, thanks. Soo-ie.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:29:56am

GOOD MORNING JULIAN!!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:31:20am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

Welcome back. We’ve missed you around here. Night shift on the weekends has been quiet of late.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:32:12am

re: #114 Dave In Austin

Welcome back. We’ve missed you around here. Night shift on the weekends has been quiet of late.

I am around here on European time, during the day. Usually quite dead.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:33:16am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am around here on European time, during the day. Usually quite dead.

Yeah, it’s usually pretty quiet here during the European day. Saw Assange finally got arrested and of course, the latest Brexit news.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:35:31am

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, it’s usually pretty quiet here during the European day. Saw Assange finally got arrested and of course, the latest Brexit news.

Still do not understand how they are going to work it with the UK and the EU Parliamentary elections in May. Participation rates are traditionally low all over Europe, who the heck in the UK is even going to bother to vote except the obstructionists.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:38:28am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Still do not understand how they are going to work it with the UK and the EU Parliamentary elections in May. Participation rates are traditionally low all over Europe, who the heck in the UK is even going to bother to vote except the obstructionists.

There’s a possibility the pro-remain voters might turn out in large droves to elect pro-remain MEP’s. I’ve seen it being discussed - they’re hoping they can monkeywrench Brexit from Brussels.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 3:41:48am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

There’s a possibility the pro-remain voters might turn out in large droves to elect pro-remain MEP’s. I’ve seen it being discussed - they’re hoping they can monkeywrench Brexit from Brussels.

That is not in the hands of the European Parliament. The UK would have to call new elections and elect a new British Parliament that would be in a position to revoke Article 50.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:00:19am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is not in the hands of the European Parliament. The UK would have to call new elections and elect a new British Parliament that would be in a position to revoke Article 50.

There’s an argument that PM May could unilaterally revoke Article 50 with the necessity of going through Parliament.

Seeing as the UK has no written, formal constitution (it’s all just precedent and earlier laws) she might be able to. Of course, it would almost certainly kick off a constitutional crisis (such as it were) and would end up in front of their Supreme Court.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:05:55am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

There’s an argument that PM May could unilaterally revoke Article 50 with the necessity of going through Parliament.

Seeing as the UK has no written, formal constitution (it’s all just precedent and earlier laws) she might be able to. Of course, it would almost certainly kick off a constitutional crisis (such as it were) and would end up in front of their Supreme Court.

Well, we’ve seen how unwritten rules of governance are working now in the USA.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:10:52am

Regional weather from the Cheyenne NWS (with charts of wind speeds, snowfall, &c). I live in the SE corner of the county with Bridgeport as the county seat.

weather.gov

The blizzard warning has been dropped for Wyoming, and Sioux County in the Nebraska Panhandle.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:19:19am

re: #76 KGxvi

My travel standard is a medium sized duffel bag and a backpack that can carry my laptop. DSLR and it’s bag go into the duffel as well for airplane flights.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:30:00am

re: #123 Feline Fearless Leader

My travel standard is a medium sized duffel bag and a backpack that can carry my laptop. DSLR and it’s bag go into the duffel as well for airplane flights.

We have luggage we bought when we were in Poland. It all fits in our car. If we need more than that, we should probably move rather than travel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:36:54am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am around here on European time, during the day. Usually quite dead.

I’m usually around as well, but I’m catching up on all the comments made while I was sleeping.
And then I go and take a nap.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:37:49am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

We have luggage we bought when we were in Poland. It all fits in our car. If we need more than that, we should probably move rather than travel.

I had an old set of luggage that finally was dumped a year ago when I moved. Dated to the mid-80s and by this time was really starting to break down.

The main reason I went to a soft-sided duffel bag is that I can get it into places in overhead bins on planes that a rigid bag could not go. And the dimensions are so that its length is equal to the depth of many overheads.

The airline whipsaw about luggage standards over the years has been “interesting” to see how they change the environment for profit and then the passengers’ luggage habits evolve to match it. Start charging for checked bags -> carry-on bag numbers explode and they also massively increase in size. LImit size of carry-ons -> bags adjust to the new size and/or passengers bring on oversize bags knowing they’ll get gate checked (and generally for free). Etc. etc.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:38:35am

re: #113 Dave In Austin

GOOD MORNING JULIAN!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:38:51am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m usually around as well, but I’m catching up on all the comments made while I was sleeping.
And then I go and take a nap.

somebody mentioned the “WZ wave”, which is likewise me signing on in the morning and catching up on the past night’s thread…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:39:35am

re: #127 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

JUST IN: Julian Assange has been further arrested in relation to an extradition warrant on behalf of the U.S. authorities - UK police

Not to worry, Trump will pardon him…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:39:38am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

In short, don’t fuck with the national religion of the country hosting you in their embassy, don’t be a jerk in general, and don’t act like you’re the fucking boss of the embassy.

Now they’ll need to call in a hazmat squad to clean his quarters.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:40:09am

re: #127 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Spicy!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:40:31am

the moron has an opinion about Brexit

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:41:05am

re: #130 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

In short, don’t fuck with the national religion of the country hosting you in their embassy, don’t be a jerk in general, and don’t act like you’re the fucking boss of the embassy.

Now they’ll need to call in a hazmat squad to clean his quarters.

They should just find a new Embassy and have the current one demolished. It’d be easier.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:41:45am

re: #130 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

In short, don’t fuck with the national religion of the country hosting you in their embassy, don’t be a jerk in general, and don’t act like you’re the fucking boss of the embassy.

Now they’ll need to call in a hazmat squad to clean his quarters.

What might be interesting is what sort of stuff is on his computer if he did not have sufficient forewarning to wipe it.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:41:53am

re: #113 Dave In Austin

So, he cooperated and went peaceably. ////////////

But damn, Julian, did they take away your scissors and razors?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:43:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:43:44am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Too bad that the European Union is being so tough on the United Kingdom and Brexit. The E.U. is likewise a brutal trading partner with the United States, which will change. Sometimes in life you have to let people breathe before it all comes back to bite you!

The EU had to set an example for any other states who might consider a Grexit or a Spexit or an Luxemburexit.

I thought that Trump liked tough trade negotiations and had little respect for losers and pushovers.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:43:58am

re: #130 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Probably would have been out of jail by now if he just sucked it up seven years ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:44:25am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:45:30am

re: #138 Shropshire Slasher

Probably would have been out of jail by now if he just manned up seven years ago.

If he even got jail time. Probably could have worked out some deal, but no, he had to be all drama queen “I’m being oppressed!!” and hole up as an unwanted guest in a hapless embassy.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:46:41am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

Part of the Mueller investigation, or something else, I wonder.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:46:41am

re: #140 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

If he even got jail time. Probably could have worked out some deal, but no, he had to be all drama queen “I’m being oppressed!!” and hole up as an unwanted guest in a hapless embassy.

I think he was counting on others offering him asylum or pardon but that did not pan out.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:48:14am

re: #141 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Part of the Mueller investigation, or something else, I wonder.

According to Assange’s lawyer it’s the Manning case

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:48:38am

re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

According to Assange’s lawyer it’s the Manning case

Makes sense.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:49:38am

re: #83 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I…I was glad my Airbnb in Danang had a modern TV I could connect to.

This might be the most surreal sentence to enter a mid-century mind.

Do I see a Mouse in the house?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:49:58am

re: #141 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Part of the Mueller investigation, or something else, I wonder.

Wikileaks

Julian’s supporters are all outraged:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:50:31am

re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

According to Assange’s lawyer it’s the Manning case

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:52:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:53:29am

it’s like a freaking soap opera:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:55:07am

nap time…

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:55:53am

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:55:54am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

This might be the most surreal sentence to enter a mid-century mind.

Do I see a Mouse in the house?

By that I meant the TV had HDMI inputs.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2019 • 4:58:06am

re: #152 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

By that I meant the TV had HDMI inputs.

In an airbnb, in Danang.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:01:34am

Lot of folks noting Dotard is sharing false info again

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:04:06am
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Archangelus  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:04:56am

Edit: * shakes a fist at FormerDirtDart one post above for beating him by 50 seconds… * ;-)

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Bubblehead II  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:06:12am

Has this been posted yet or am I late to the party.

Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder arrested in London

he Met Police said he was arrested for failing to surrender to the court and following a US extradition request.

* Late to the party.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:06:58am
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Archangelus  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:07:21am

re: #157 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Has this been posted yet or am I late to the party.

Late to the party, but never too late to bring along more drinks. :D
Seriously though, reading this over and over is quite therapeutic…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:08:06am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:11:10am

re: #153 Decatur Deb

In an airbnb, in Danang.

and it was built within the last five years. Rented a studio apartment for five days for $110 total.

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Archangelus  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:14:03am

re: #83 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

But, editing a book with a tablet is no fun.

Understatement of the month from my perspective.
Editing a book with a borderline-decent laptop was painful enough a year ago, doing so with a tablet is just short of a nightmare in my experience…

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Bubblehead II  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:14:10am

re: #159 Archangelus

Late to the party, but never too late to bring along more drinks. :D
Seriously though, reading this over and over is quite therapeutic..

Thanks. Passes over a cup of coffee and doughnut.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:15:38am

re: #161 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

and it was built within the last five years. Rented a studio apartment for five days for $110 total.

Should have been prepared for the dissonance when I found out Charlie does surf—at the Danang Surf Club.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:17:03am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wikileaks

Julian’s supporters are all outraged:

Pamela Anderson goes full-metal wingnut (two tweets):

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Mike Lamb  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:18:35am

From upthread, Trump is really warming up to the treason allegation…now it’s being applied to Democrats re: immigration. Fantastic, and not at all fascist.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:18:38am

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹

Pamela Anderson has attacked the UK after her rumoured lover Julian Assange was arrested at the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

Anderson hit out in a series of fiery tweets posted after the Wikileaks founder was filmed being carried out of the embassy by police while shouting incoherently.

The actress wrote: ‘I am in shock.. I couldn’t hear clearly what he said? He looks very bad. How could you Equador? [sic] (Because he exposed you).

dailymail.co.uk

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Archangelus  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:20:24am

re: #163 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Thanks. Passes over a cup of coffee and doughnut.

Mmmmmmmmm….. doooooooooooghnuuuuuuuuuuut……

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:21:06am

Ptomaine Lasagna cites an article from Faithwire, Pat Robertson’s “news outlet” to claim persecution of Christians in China.

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jeffreyw  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:23:31am

That feeling when when you rub some paint off before it’s dry and you fear those sarcastic fucking jays will mock your appearance.

Good morning!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:34:20am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

Ptomaine Lasagna cites an article from Faithwire, Pat Robertson’s “news outlet” to claim persecution of Christians in China.

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The Xians being snitched on are the ones who have “home churches,” which are gatherings outside the state-approved “official” churches. It’s not an exaggeration. The CCP does not trust any organization not directly controlled by the CCP.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:34:40am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

Hi. Second blizzard in a month now going on.

I’ve stayed logged out but following along.

Jumping in with this tidbit from The Guardian:

Julian Assange Arrested at the Ecuadorian Embassy

The President of Ecuador withdrew Mr. Assange’s political asylum claim. The ambassador then invited the Metropolitan Police in to arrest him.

They executed the warrant they had outstanding for him jumping bail.

Anymouse. Was beginning to miss you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:42:17am

re: #171 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The Xians being snitched on are the ones who have “home churches,” which are gatherings outside the state-approved “official” churches. It’s not an exaggeration. The CCP does not trust any organization not directly controlled by the CCP.

That was one of the issues that Rome had with the early Christians; not that they were practicing their faith, but that they were doing it secretly in the catacombs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:44:22am

re: #172 I Would Prefer Not To

Anymouse. Was beginning to miss you.

You need to aim better. /s

Matthew Yglasias with today’s hot take:

Publisher as in “Russian cutout.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:49:43am

I imagine there will be a ton of hot takes all day about Julian Assange’s arrest.

Trump is probably relieved that at least for now, the press’s eyes are off him.

Expect Trump to do something stupid later today to get the attention back.

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jimmyvluv4u  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:52:18am

re: #55 gocart mozart

Damn… looks like he may be a heavy metal fan into the Nazi-ish Black Metal fringe, namely the asshole who burned a bunch of historic Norwegian wooden churches (and murdered his bandmate) in the 90s.

I’m a big metal guy, and while I think metal fandom is a big tent, I wish we could boot these jabronis out…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:55:28am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 11, 2019 • 5:59:37am

I heard some new H.P Lovecraft jokes, they were pretty mediocre. But I know some great old ones.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:03:22am

Morning!

So, I see there was some activity overnight at the Embassy in Ecuador.

Is this part of the “coup” to bring down Trump???

Okay…time to get caught up with the news.

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:05:27am

I wonder what the Ecuadorian President was referring to when he cited, as a reason for booting Julian Assange, violation of “day-to-day protocols”?

Carrying on dodgy stuff online? Or just his years-long aversion to visiting the shower? And/or the barber? Yeccch.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:06:44am

re: #180 Jay C

I wonder what the Ecuadorian President was referring to when he cited, as a reason for booting Julian Assange, violation of “day-to-day protocols”?

Carrying on dodgy stuff online? Or just his years-long aversion to visiting the shower?

Probably started to have to pile the jars of urine and other precious bodily fluids outside his room and into the hallway.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:07:15am

re: #178 Sufficient unto the day…

I heard some new H.P Lovecraft jokes, they were pretty mediocre. But I know some great old ones.

Yeah, until they drove you mad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:08:48am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹

Glenn Beck says that “American Communists” and George Soros are orchestrating an “assault on the republic” using Central American migrants

Klassic Krayzee never goes out of style

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:09:27am

Greets and saluts from the dreary NYC metro area, where apparently Park and 5th cross in this timeline (but not reality).

Trump’s continuing to lie and his advisers continue pumping out the lies to keep Trump satisfied.

How do we know this? Because he’s lying about having a 50% approval rating again, and this time the pollster is flat out calling him and the admin out for pushing yet another lie.

Trump’s approval rating remains in the tank at around 40%. It’s unmoved by anything Trump does these days.

And yet Trump continues to attack the Mueller report, that supposedly exonerates him, calling Democrats traitors, etc., all while claiming he’s exonerated and that he won the Mueller report.

This is all value signaling to Trump’s bigoted base, which continues to push for shutting down immigration of nonwhites, eliminating amnesty, and otherwise looking to push nonwhites (and women) to the curb.

Trump’s lies come at a feverish pace that it’s hard for people to keep up, and the media continues to do an awful job about this. Instead of calling out the clear lies, they continue to headline the Trump statement that includes the lie, and only later do they reveal that it’s a lie. This is no way to do reporting or journalism. It’s hagiography and stenography when you regurgitate what someone says uncritically.

Meanwhile, Assange was perpwalked out of the Ecuadorian embassy after this asylum was revoked. Good. The fucker has avoided justice for years because of this - and now faces justice on both rape charges, and for espionage/accessing classified documents.

Who is behind WL? I’m guessing Russia, because when you see where the leaks come from and who benefits from the leaks, all signs point to Russia (whether they’re the ones hacking to get the info, or the Russian govt benefits from the chaos sown by the WL publication of said classified info). Assange isn’t a publisher. He’s a undeclared foreign agent who was passing secrets.

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:16:21am

Interesting. Whatever we want to bring Assange Stateside for, he’s already been charged with it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:18:32am

The job market remains strong; the Dept. of Labor reported this morning that last week’s initial unemployment claims dropped to 196k, the first time its been below 200k in nearly 50 years. With the labior force double the size it was 50 years ago, employed Americans are enjoying unprecedented job security, even as wage gains remain sluggish.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:18:52am

re: #184 lawhawk

Assange isn’t a publisher. He’s a undeclared foreign agent who was passing secrets.

and that is the issue. If he had merely been a whistleblower and exposed crimes committed by the government, he would have a case for dismissing charges. But he went about it a careless manner that he exposed a lot of other secrets and endangered government operations and even the lives of agents and operatives.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:19:15am

re: #184 lawhawk

Not necessarily direct partners, but Assange, Wikileaks, Putin, and our own wacko right wing currently in power (and gaining more and more) are part of a “burn it all down to the ground” melange of world travellers.

Travellers with very different end games but willing to partner up with the short term goal of destroying the 20th Century global state structure.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:22:30am

re: #186 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The job market remains strong; the Dept. of Labor reported this morning that last week’s initial unemployment claims dropped to 196k, the first time its been below 200k in nearly 50 years. With the labior force double the size it was 50 years ago, employed Americans are enjoying unprecedented job security, even as wage gains remain sluggish.

Shorter: Everyone can work if they’ll work for nothing.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:23:36am

In what would be an earthshaking scandal in any other Administration (in this one it was just another Wednesday), Donald Trump’s sister has resigned from the federal bench to avoid judicial misconduct proceedings concerning the family tax fraud scheme revealed by the NYT that the President was deeply involved in. It barely made a ripple in the news cycle.

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:24:18am

re: #185 makeitstop

Assange is being charged with hacking a secured US computer system. They aren’t charging him with publishing the information (and some 1A folks think that’s the right move since that would chill publishers like the NYT who publish information from leaks).

Assange conspired with others to break into secured computer systems. That’s an entirely different beast. I think a plea deal with prosecutors could have significant value here. I’m not talking immunity but rather in exchange for a lighter prison sentence in the US (he’d still face the rape charges overseas), he has to allocute to what he and his comrades did to hack into American computer networks to manipulate the outcome of the 2016 election and who he worked with, their methods, etc…. all in the name of transparency.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:25:02am

re: #190 NO SMOCKING GUN!

In what would be an earthshaking scandal in any other Administration (in this one it was just another Wednesday), Donald Trump’s sister has resigned from the federal bench to avoid judicial misconduct proceedings concerning the family tax fraud scheme revealed by the NYT that the President was deeply involved in. It barely made a ripple in the news cycle.

In News From the Past, First Bro Billy Carter tried to make a few bucks endorsing shitty re-branded beer.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:26:26am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Shorter: Everyone can work if they’ll work for nothing.

Which is probably why the employment ratio for prime age workers remains below 80%.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:33:00am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Shorter: Everyone can work if they’ll work for nothing.

There was no unemployment among southern Blacks in the 1850’s…

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:34:02am

This Dwayne Wade spot, man…got something in my eye…

Budweiser | This Bud’s For 3 | Dwyane Wade

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Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:35:11am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was no unemployment among southern Blacks in the 1850’s…

All the OT they could ask for.

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:40:08am

Snowden, currently sitting this one out from the comfort of a Russian dacha.

Yeah, another winner from the circle of Russian psyops against the West (and the US in particular).

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:42:31am

re: #188 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Not necessarily direct partners, but Assange, Wikileaks, Putin, and our own wacko right wing currently in power (and gaining more and more) are part of a “burn it all down to the ground” melange of world travellers.

Travellers with very different end games but willing to partner up with the short term goal of destroying the 20th Century global state structure.

The parallels with the early 20th century anarchists who also tried these same kinds of stunts all across Europe are stunning. They want to burn it all down, but with different goals.

For the Trumpists, it’s to accumulate wealth and power in the US.
For Putinists, it’s to accumulate power and diminish threats to Russia by weakening the EU and US.
For Assange, he’s a cutout for Russia and his actions benefit those Trumpists and Putinists where their agendas align.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:42:36am

Samantha Bee weighs in on “Fifty Cons of Way.”

Fifty Cons of Way | April 10, 2019 Act 2 | Full Frontal on TBS

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:44:50am
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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:44:52am

The EDVA statement on the indictment of Assange.

Julian P. Assange, 47, the founder of WikiLeaks, was arrested today in the United Kingdom pursuant to the U.S./UK Extradition Treaty, in connection with a federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer.

According to court documents unsealed today, the charge relates to Assange’s alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States.

The indictment alleges that in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers connected to the Secret Internet Protocol Network (SIPRNet), a U.S. government network used for classified documents and communications. Manning, who had access to the computers in connection with her duties as an intelligence analyst, was using the computers to download classified records to transmit to WikiLeaks. Cracking the password would have allowed Manning to log on to the computers under a username that did not belong to her. Such a deceptive measure would have made it more difficult for investigators to determine the source of the illegal disclosures.

During the conspiracy, Manning and Assange engaged in real-time discussions regarding Manning’s transmission of classified records to Assange. The discussions also reflect Assange actively encouraging Manning to provide more information. During an exchange, Manning told Assange that “after this upload, that’s all I really have got left.” To which Assange replied, “curious eyes never run dry in my experience.”

Assange is charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion and is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.

G. Zachary Terwilliger, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, John C. Demers, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, and Nancy McNamara, Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI’s Washington Field Office, made the announcement after the charges were unsealed. First Assistant U.S. Attorney Tracy Doherty-McCormick, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Kellen S. Dwyer, Thomas W. Traxler and Gordon D. Kromberg, and Trial Attorneys Matthew R. Walczewski and Nicholas O. Hunter of the Justice Department’s National Security Division are prosecuting the case.

The extradition will be handled by the Department of Justice’s Office of International Affairs.

A copy of this press release is located on the website of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia. Related court documents and information are located on the website of the District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia or on PACER by searching for Case No. 1:18-cr-111.

An indictment contains allegations that a defendant has committed a crime. Every defendant is presumed to be innocent until and unless proven guilty in court.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:51:00am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹

They should ask her about that on the View.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:52:45am

re: #186 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The job market remains strong; the Dept. of Labor reported this morning that last week’s initial unemployment claims dropped to 196k, the first time its been below 200k in nearly 50 years. With the labior force double the size it was 50 years ago, employed Americans are enjoying unprecedented job security, even as wage gains remain sluggish.

The job market is so damn good everyone has two jobs!

To get close to making a living. You might need three.

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:53:37am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 6:54:08am

re: #202 Belafon

They should ask her about that on the View.

She’d invoke her father’s valour as a complaint she is being attacked. She seems to do that frequently.

In the meantime, I’m going to log out. It’s still blizzard time here and snowing with freezing fog. Bed seems to be the place to be.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:00:06am

Hey guys. Decided to end the sabbatical. Life is good. Feeling glass half full about getting passed Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:02:00am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Hey guys. Decided to end the sabbatical. Life is good. Feeling glass half full about getting passed Trump.

Hi! I was just leaving, but Hi!

I’ll have to catch you another time… .

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:02:32am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹

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Glad to see you’re back. Missed you.

And I’m so glad I killed the cable box since I no longer am forced to subsidize Pravda, er 19th Century Fox!

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:04:42am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Hey guys. Decided to end the sabbatical. Life is good. Feeling glass half full about getting passed Trump.

Hey welcome back! I’ve been working on a family tree and it made me think of you!

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:04:43am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Hey guys. Decided to end the sabbatical. Life is good. Feeling glass half full about getting passed Trump.

Welcome back. Folks have been asking where you were.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:05:42am

MM is someone who to me seems bizarrely fixated with being loyal to the GOP name brand even if she hates that her party has nominated people like Trump for POTUS and that he remains popular in said party. She has this bizarre romantic notion that the GOP is anything but what it actually is and that’s it is filled to the brim with people who were okay with the attacks on her mother and father in 2000 for her sister’s ethnicity and the Orange Chode continuing to attack her father after his death last summer. I mean I get it, Meaghan, you’re not a liberal and you’re never gonna be one but you’re loyal to a party full of people that think your father was worse than Putin, Balistanatro, etc. I never would have voted for her father against any Democrat but he wasn’t worse than those tyrants that goes without saying.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:06:12am

re: #178 Sufficient unto the day…

Found a great Lovecraft universe story awhile back called “A Colder War”…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:06:35am

Thanks guys. It’s only been a few weeks but feels longer. Finally feels like Spring here.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:08:02am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

Hey welcome back! I’ve been working on a family tree and it made me think of you!

Awesome. Good luck in your research. The best part I think you will find is if you discover photographs and learn more about your ancestors. I bet you had a great or even second great grandmother that loved to bake like you do. I discovered one of my great grandfathers was an amateur baseball players and a second great grandfather was really into music.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:09:05am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

Awesome. Good luck in your research. The best part I think you will find is if you discover photographs and learn more about your ancestors. I bet you had a great or even second great grandmother that loved to bake like you do. I discovered one of my great grandfathers was an amateur baseball players and a second great grandfather was really into music.

My great-grandparents (Nana’s parents) had a bakery in Cleveland.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:09:21am

re: #212 Scottish Dragon

Found a great Lovecraft universe story awhile back called “A Colder War”…

Charlie Stross. His “Laundry” series also plays around the edges as it’s essentially a modern day where the Lovecraftian universe is lurking in the background. The various novels in the series are homages to various types of novels as well and are generally well done.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:09:30am

re: #208 Joe Bacon 🌹

Glad to see you’re back. Missed you.

And I’m so glad I killed the cable box since I no longer am forced to subsidize Pravda, er 19th Century Fox!

Thanks man. Yeah FNC is just bad for our collective sanity. It’s crazy that it’s not even been a month since the Barr summary and so much has happened since then. Now I know how people who lived in dramatic historical times must have felt.

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jeffreyw  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:09:45am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Should have been prepared for the dissonance when I found out Charlie does surf—at the Danang Surf Club.

Charlie’s grandsons, perhaps. Our company was sent to Vung Tau for an in-country R&R and there were surfboards available, despite the lack of any appreciable surf. I paddled out and managed to catch a ripple after a few tries so I can say I surfed!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:10:02am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

My great-grandparents (Nana’s parents) had a bakery in Cleveland.

My grandmother was sent to Cleveland from Croatia in 1912 to marry a man they had arranged for her…

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:10:20am

re: #216 Feline Fearless Leader

Charlie Stross. His “Laundry” series also plays around the edges as it’s essentially a modern day where the Lovecraftian universe is lurking in the background. The various novels in the series are homages to various types of novels as well and are generally well done.

I want to start reading those. The Colder War novella just blew me away.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:10:22am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Hey guys. Decided to end the sabbatical. Life is good. Feeling glass half full about getting passed Trump.

HI HAPPY! Glad you’re back!

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:10:28am

re: #167 Shropshire Slasher

Did Ecuador have to shelter this fascist prick forever? Nope. I’m glad that he’s out and has been arrested. He’s one of the big reasons that we have Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:10:33am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

My great-grandparents (Nana’s parents) had a bakery in Cleveland.

There ya go then! And hey I have Cleveland ties as well. My Nana’s mother was born there and her mother’s mother’s siblings all stayed in the area mostly. One of them matched me via DNA and she’s told me a lot about her Nana who was my Great Nana’s much younger cousin.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:11:49am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹

Hi! I was just leaving, but Hi!

I’ll have to catch you another time… .

Hey good to see ya too. I’ll see ya around. I’m sure.

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jeffreyw  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:12:28am

re: #178 Sufficient unto the day…

I heard some new H.P Lovecraft jokes, they were pretty mediocre. But I know some great old ones.

Say hi to Ol’ Bob for me.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:16:56am

re: #220 Scottish Dragon

I want to start reading those. The Colder War novella just blew me away.

You probably want to do them in order since there is a character development arc going and references back to events in previous novels, though it’s not a requirement.

Though the use of Lovecraftian stuff is not as explicit as “Colder War”.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:25:58am

And note that Snowden is playing to the conspiracy crowd by stating he was arrested by the “UK’s secret police”. The Metropolitan Police does do counter-terrorism stuff, but is primarily the police force for London outside of the “square mile” City of London.

So I expect Wikileaks and supporters will harp constantly on his arrest being about trumped up charges that have since been dropped and/or being oppressed for whistle-blowing journalism.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:26:30am
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:26:58am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:28:39am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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I was really disappointed when I saw the results. I’m really worried about the direction Israel chose to go in by re-electing Bibi. He’s going to make Israel more isolated in the world by catering to right wing bigots at home and abroad. And that’s not good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:28:47am
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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:31:23am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

This might be the most surreal sentence to enter a mid-century mind.

Do I see a Mouse in the house?

Do we need to set the traps???

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:35:11am

They said they pulled arrested Julian Assange, but I’ve seen the pictures and it looks more like they dragged Howard Hughes outta the Ecuadorian embassy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:38:52am

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

Melbourne, Australia is also known for rash changes of weather, inspiring this Crowded house number;

four seasons in one day - crowded house

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:39:08am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:40:08am

re: #233 Targetpractice

They said they pulled arrested Julian Assange, but I’ve seen the pictures and it looks more like they dragged Howard Hughes outta the Ecuadorian embassy.

I wonder in part if the timing of this is to bring Chelsea Manning back into the media spotlight for a while so that the various spouting objects can go after LBGT people some more by claiming they are all traitors.

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:41:17am

re: #236 Feline Fearless Leader

I wonder in part if the timing of this is to bring Chelsea Manning back into the media spotlight for a while so that the various spouting objects can go after LBGT people some more by claiming they are all traitors.

That’s giving the morons too much credit. Seems more likely that Assange just finally wore out his welcome.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:42:03am

So when is Wikileaks going to release their Doomsday Device?

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William Lewis  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:43:29am

re: #212 Scottish Dragon

Found a great Lovecraft universe story awhile back called “A Colder War”…

one of the best.

Have you read “Winter Tide” yet? Exquisite novel by Ruthanne Emrys. Sequel out “Deep Roots” that I need to get yet.

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danarchy  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:44:00am

re: #237 Targetpractice

That’s giving the morons too much credit. Seems more likely that Assange just finally wore out his welcome.

Didn’t wikileaks recently release some damaging info about the Ecuadorian president?

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Ferdinand  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:45:39am

Yay! Happy Warrior is commenting again.

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:46:22am

I do like the fact that the ever cool Assange is dragged, kicking and screaming, to the lorry by police.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:47:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:49:39am

LOL

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:49:45am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ask him about your polluted, unreliable drinking water: Gov Bevin to hold a community forum in Martin County on Saturday for a “dialogue about economic development and other key issues.

“Economic Development” means “cutting taxes and eliminating safety, health and environmental regulations”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:50:22am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Economic Development” means “cutting taxes and eliminating safety, health and environmental regulations”

and coal mines!

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mmmirele  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:50:30am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was one of the issues that Rome had with the early Christians; not that they were practicing their faith, but that they were doing it secretly in the catacombs.

No, it wasn’t because of the secrecy, it was because the Christians refused to worship the emperor by burning incense to the genius (spirit) of the emperor. This was considered a huge affront to the social order. Every other religion did it, but not (some) Christians. This was the issue in the Acts of Perpetua and Felicitas, probably the first document written in part by a Christian woman. Perpetua argued with her father about burning incense and she was martyred for her intransigence. Thing is, a lot of Christians just did the sacrifice and burned the incense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:52:11am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

and coal mines!

‘Coz once we remove all those burdensome gummint regulations, the coal jobs will come roaring back, bringing high wages and benefits without the need for pesky unions, either!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:53:06am

re: #247 mmmirele

No, it wasn’t because of the secrecy, it was because the Christians refused to worship the emperor by burning incense to the genius (spirit) of the emperor. This was considered a huge affront to the social order. Every other religion did it, but not (some) Christians. This was the issue in the Acts of Perpetua and Felicitas, probably the first document written in part by a Christian woman. Perpetua argued with her father about burning incense and she was martyred for her intransigence. Thing is, a lot of Christians just did the sacrifice and burned the incense.

and they took that “turn the other cheek” thing seriously and refused to serve in the military…

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:53:23am

re: #240 danarchy

Didn’t wikileaks recently release some damaging info about the Ecuadorian president?

I’m seeing mention of that, but nothing definitive so far. But even if so, it’s generally considered a bad move to piss off the people offering you asylum.

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jimmyvluv4u  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:56:58am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

I get more of a Randy Quaid vibe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:57:08am

re: #240 danarchy

Didn’t wikileaks recently release some damaging info about the Ecuadorian president?

How Ecuador Soured on Assange

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:58:31am

re: #237 Targetpractice

That’s giving the morons too much credit. Seems more likely that Assange just finally wore out his welcome.

I’m giving the Russians or whomever credit for telling Ecuador to go ahead and lift the asylum. I’m under the presumption that they were doing it for this long more than just to give the UK and USA a middle finger.

It may well be that he simply wore out his welcome, but there have been repeated grumblings previously about him abusing the privilege he was granted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 7:58:50am

Ecuador president blames WikiLeaks for leak of private data

QUITO, Ecuador (AP) — Ecuadorian President Lenín Moreno is blaming WikiLeaks for recent allegations of corruption in local outlets and the publication of family photos to social media.

In a speech to the Ecuadorian Broadcasting Association on Tuesday, Moreno accused WikiLeaks of intercepting phone calls and private conversations as well as “photos of my bedroom, what I eat, and how my wife and daughters and friends dance.”

Moreno provided no evidence, but the speech reflected ongoing tension between WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and his hosts at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.

WikiLeaks in a statement called Moreno’s charges “completely bogus,” saying it reported on the accusations of corruption against the president only after Ecuador’s legislature investigated the issue.

“If President Moreno wants to illegally terminate a refugee publisher’s asylum to cover up an offshore corruption scandal, history will not be kind,” WikiLeaks said in a statement.

Assange’s defense team suggested on Twitter that Moreno was trying to use the scandal to pressure the WikiLeaks founder.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:00:16am

re: #235 darthstar

First time I saw that picture of him (compared to all the dapper guy looking out a window) I thought it was a photoshop.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:03:10am

Trumps older sister was a corrupt judge. Suddenly retiring after complaints stuck about her corruption in favor of herself and the family. Very illustrative of Trump looking to pack the courts. i’m having a tech glitch, hoping to Page this later when that feature will load.
nytimes.com

By Russ Buettner and Susanne Craig

April 10, 2019

President Trump’s older sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, has retired as a federal appellate judge, ending an investigation into whether she violated judicial conduct rules by participating in fraudulent tax schemes with her siblings.

The court inquiry stemmed from complaints filed last October, after an investigation by The New York Times found that the Trumps had engaged in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the inherited wealth of Mr. Trump and his siblings. Judge Barry not only benefited financially from most of those tax schemes, The Times found; she was also in a position to influence the actions taken by her family.

Judge Barry, now 82, has not heard cases in more than two years but was still listed as an inactive senior judge, one step short of full retirement. In a letter dated Feb. 1, a court official notified the four individuals who had filed the complaints that the investigation was “receiving the full attention” of a judicial conduct council. Ten days later, Judge Barry filed her retirement papers.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:03:53am

LGF, April 4th

“…….the grapevine has it that Assnugget’s possible expulsion (this time) is related not to his atrocious housekeeping but to recently acquired and extremely sensitive information from a US source.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:05:05am

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KGxvi  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:08:48am

So, odds that Trump prematurely pardons Assange saying something like “he helped us win, gotta pay him back for that”?

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steve_davis  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:09:56am

re: #3 gocart mozart

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The image address shows this to be from a PBS episode dealing with the klan in Colorado, by the way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:11:42am

re: #259 KGxvi

So, odds that Trump prematurely pardons Assange saying something like “he helped us win, gotta pay him back for that”?

He will pardon Assange to keep his kompromat from coming out

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:12:13am

The predictable Republican’s response:
“But but Jussie Smollett!”

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:12:59am

re: #259 KGxvi

So, odds that Trump prematurely pardons Assange saying something like “he helped us win, gotta pay him back for that”?

Prosecuting Assange is more useful, to create a sense of daylight between Trump and Russia.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:13:33am

First they came for Julian Assange, and I said….

Ha-ha!

Has GG chimed in yet?

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KGxvi  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:13:58am

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Prosecuting Assange is more useful, to create a sense of daylight between Trump and Russia.

Sure, but that’s assuming competency in covering up a criminal conspiracy on the part of one Donald J Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:14:13am

re: #264 Barefoot Grin

First they came for Julian Assange, and I said….

Ha-ha!

Has GG chimed in yet?

No but Snowden has

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:14:53am

morning all

- we know he ‘makes his own decisions” and doesn’t listen to anybody or at best ‘the last person he talked to’

- the op headline ” Trump Listens to Stephen Miller and Lou Dobbs on Immigration” is one i think we see a lot: “trump listens to x” and we are enraged at who those people are…

this is not a paradox

the first part merely means he does whatever he wants, likely, mostly on impulse

the second says to me that he is not an original thinker and has virtually no ideas of his own

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:14:55am

re: #266 Dave In Austin

No but Snowden has

Da, I saw that.

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:16:00am

re: #263 goddamnedfrank

Prosecuting Assange is more useful, to create a sense of daylight between Trump and Russia.

So as to discredit the likely kompromat which will be aired in any case?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:16:09am

re: #262 DodgerFan1988

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The predictable Republican’s response:
“But but Jussie Smollett!”

I read that it was his father, the deputy, who turned him in

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steve_davis  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:20:04am

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

Possibly shared already but…

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and in 1969, somebody had to feed that shit into the computer on what I always will think of fondly as my university’s old library cards. I’ve had an older cousin discuss the horrors of having a box of cards disgorge itself onto the floor.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:20:05am

I can already tell this is going to be a long day.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:21:19am
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:21:40am
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Jay C  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:21:45am

re: #262 DodgerFan1988

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The predictable Republican’s response:
“But but Jussie Smollett!”

They might try, but it’s not even a case of an apples-to-oranges comparison, but more like apples-to-rusty lugnuts.
Though I’d scarcely be surprised to see some Internet identification of Holden Matthews as a “Democrat activist” sooner or later….

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:21:54am

...

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steve_davis  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:23:23am

re: #40 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s got an alibi!

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of course he’s dead. he’s wearing the red pajamas. you know going in that if you are wearing the red pajamas, you aren’t making it to the end credits.

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steve_davis  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:25:39am

re: #46 Belafon

As we know with Stephen Miller, it’s not always the case, but I bet the dad makes some questionable statements in the privacy of his home.

when all is said and done, I’m betting we discover that more than one member of the sheriff’s department is a klan member.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:25:50am
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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:28:41am

re: #272 goddamnedfrank

I can already tell this is going to be a long day.

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Just tell them that the guy deserves to fry no matter how innocent he looks.

If it’s a criminal case, they’ll dismiss you for bias.

If it’s a civil case, they’ll dismiss you because they think you’re a loony.

//

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:29:54am

re: #247 mmmirele

No, it wasn’t because of the secrecy, it was because the Christians refused to worship the emperor by burning incense to the genius (spirit) of the emperor. This was considered a huge affront to the social order. Every other religion did it, but not (some) Christians. This was the issue in the Acts of Perpetua and Felicitas, probably the first document written in part by a Christian woman. Perpetua argued with her father about burning incense and she was martyred for her intransigence. Thing is, a lot of Christians just did the sacrifice and burned the incense.

The Romans also had laws about assemblies, fearing that plots and insurrections — especially after the Jewish Wars, so the Christians had that against them too.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:30:34am
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ipsos  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:30:53am

re: #279 Dave In Austin

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And the Flag Code recoiled in horror…

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:32:32am

Cynicism deep as Lake Baikal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:34:08am

re: #279 Dave In Austin

So here’s a picture of the white supremacist POS who burned down 3 African-American churches in Louisiana.

2 questions:

1. Why isn’t this all over the news?

2. Does he look like a MAGAt Trump supporter to you?

Why do all Muslims hate Jews?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:38:27am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:39:55am

That was pretty fast

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:40:52am
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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:41:07am

re: #282 Patricia Kayden

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They’re not going to stop until AOC or Ilhan are dead…at which point they’ll whine that they’re the “victims” because they did nothing to provoke violence towards these women.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:43:00am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Assange is alive only because America does not stoop to assassination of “journalists” critical of her. Russia and Saudi Arabia for instance… His rights are just fine thank you very much.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:43:29am

re: #271 steve_davis

and in 1969, somebody had to feed that shit into the computer on what I always will think of fondly as my university’s old library cards. I’ve had an older cousin discuss the horrors of having a box of cards disgorge itself onto the floor.

1976 in college it would take 2-3 days to get the printed results from your deck of cards

granted it wasnt nasa and maybe students were the lowest and slowest in the queue

nevertheless, think about it:
- you type up all your cards
- read them looking for typos
- submit the deck
- 3 days later, emotionless green and white lined paper sitting on the output shelf mocks all the typos you missed
- and that’s before you get to the actual workings and logic of what the program was supposed to do in the first place

how much more computing power is in the phone in my pocket than that whole room/floor of ibm 360/370’s?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:43:56am
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Teukka  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:45:46am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:46:18am

re: #280 Targetpractice

Just tell them that the guy deserves to fry no matter how innocent he looks.

If it’s a criminal case, they’ll dismiss you for bias.

If it’s a civil case, they’ll dismiss you because they think you’re a loony.

//

my brother once tried “the prosecutor just wheeled in 8 boxes of evidence and i’m supposed to believe the guy didnt do it?”

they booted him

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danarchy  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:46:20am

re: #287 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That was pretty fast

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Or seven years overdue depending on how you look at it.

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Citizen K  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:47:24am

re: #292 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

…how long did it take for them to act regarding videos and livestreams of the Christchurch shooting anyhow?

Funny how fast Twitter can act when they want to…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:47:31am

Yep, the Trump DoJ is going to crucify Assange to put some distance between the administration and the Russian influence machine. This is what happens when a willing tool loses all other use but won’t go away quietly.

“Wait! I can give you their whole network; names, places, dates, pay-offs, even recordings!”

Barr: “Shut up, Julian.”

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Teukka  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:53:41am

BREAKING NEWS: Prosecutors reopen rape case against Assange [Swedish]

Poor guy can’t get a break it seems…

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:54:35am

re: #298 Teukka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:54:44am

what a needy moron

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:56:26am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

what a needy moron

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My answer to “coup that failed” is one word: “Whitewater.”

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 11, 2019 • 8:58:12am

I said nearly three years ago that if Trump were elected, then the Clintons should leave the country because he would force the DOJ to come after them.,

I think we are approaching that, and he may go after Obama and others as well. His treason/spying rhetoric is building to that point where he starts political persecution.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:00:41am
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Teukka  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:09:54am

Mr. Mann. Epic slapdown.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:10:07am

money laundering will do that, I hear

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:11:54am
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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:12:42am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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money laundering will do that, I hear

“My finances are clean…but I can’t show you the proof. Just like I can’t show you the proof that I was exonerated on collusion and that my grades in school were awesome.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:17:49am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ex-Pope breaks silence to share bullshit argument.

The Sexual Revolution of the 60’s led to people being able to talk about sex openly, which led to them talking about the Church’s role in covering up abuses…so yes, it did play a role.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:18:18am

Crawling out of my cave to do a happy dance. Assange needs to be dealt with in all the legal ways possible. My hope is that the process reveals how deep the corruption and treachery goes. If Assange was protected by whistleblower laws , he won’t be because of the hacking he was involved in, is that right?

I hope you all are well and life is going good for you. I read here as much as I can but so much bullshit has been happening with my own family(I am about to run away from home I miss you all. ❤️

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:19:30am
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Teukka  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:19:33am

*whistles*

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:19:39am
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jaunte  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:20:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:25:03am

re: #309 A Mom Anon

We miss you too!

Thanks for dropping by. Please don’t hesitate to reach out to us if you need anything. I am always willing to help if I can. :)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:25:49am

Damn, seems like Assange almost went full on Howard Hughes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:26:43am
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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:27:06am

re: #267 Man, DangerMan

morning all

- we know he ‘makes his own decisions” and doesn’t listen to anybody or at best ‘the last person he talked to’

- the op headline ” Trump Listens to Stephen Miller and Lou Dobbs on Immigration” is one i think we see a lot: “trump listens to x” and we are enraged at who those people are…

this is not a paradox

the first part merely means he does whatever he wants, likely, mostly on impulse

the second says to me that he is not an original thinker and has virtually no ideas of his own

That last person he listens to could be him shopping for the reason and or excuse he needs. He asks for opinions and when he gets to the one he wants, then he stops there and that is the last opinion he listened to.

It was also the opinion he probably wanted just needed someone else to put the blame on when it turns to shit.

As far as no ideas…he has his hate. His policy ideas seem to be ways to make people he hates pay for it. Then he gets people like Bannon and Miller to help him fill in what he does not know and to help him get his hate on.

He gets people into positions to wreck what he doesn’t like. It is government by wrecking ball, but he always gets a person that is so gung-ho to do the wrecking Trump ends up with someone he can blame for when people fight back. Example: DHS head Nielsen.

He is the snake.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:27:24am

re: #311 Teukka

*whistles*

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Iirc, Assange once said that he didn’t leak Russian dirt because “the free and open media environment there makes it unnecessary.”

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:28:05am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*sigh*

Benny, you quit the job, now kindly STFU.

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Teukka  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:29:06am

re: #318 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Iirc, Assange once said that he didn’t leak Russian dirt because “the free and open media environment there makes it unnecessary.”

*sprays monitor with coffee*

Hey, tell a man to put drinks down before quoting that kinda shit!

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:30:32am

re: #318 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Iirc, Assange once said that he didn’t leak Russian dirt because “the free and open media environment there makes it unnecessary.”

Yes, the sort of “open media” that sees journalists critical of the government suddenly falling on bullets or out windows.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:31:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:35:45am
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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:36:22am
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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:38:15am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kara Calavera
@KaraCalavera
Suddenly, Vladimir Putin is concerned with human rights.

Don’t hurt our boy…he is one of our biggest weapons in our internet war.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:38:33am

omg…Massie is doubling down on the stupid

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:39:15am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…Massie is doubling down on the stupid

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OFFS

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:39:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:40:06am

re: #327 Targetpractice

OFFS

he is getting hammered in the responses

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Teukka  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:41:16am

re: #324 Dave In Austin

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This legit? o.o

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:42:21am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:46:28am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is getting hammered in the responses

Wanna watch his head explode? Tell him “PhD” is shorthand for “doctor of philosophy.”

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:53:07am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…Massie is doubling down on the stupid

He’s too stupid to understand he should be embarrassed for the stupidity. But he doesn’t have a clue as to why it is stupid so he doubles down.

That boy ain’t right.

All of Kentucky America should be embarrassed.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:53:09am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…Massie is doubling down on the stupid

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I’m really really lost on this. No one is claiming that Kerry had a hard science degree.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:53:14am

Assange is not a well man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:54:52am
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:56:01am

I’ve diagnosed the root problem.

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danarchy  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:57:14am

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

Assange is not a well man.

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“fecal feces”? Is there any other kind?

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Teukka  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:59:03am

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

Assange is not a well man.

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Either unwell, or angling for an insanity plea.

re: #338 danarchy

“fecal feces”? Is there any other kind?

Well, there is male bovine feces, there also is bird feces (a.k.a. Guano), there is prehistoric feces (a.k.a. coprolites)…

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 11, 2019 • 9:59:15am

re: #338 danarchy

“fecal feces”? Is there any other kind?

Tautology for the win…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:00:23am
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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:00:44am

re: #334 Mike Lamb

I’m really really lost on this. No one is claiming that Kerry had a hard science degree.

Massie is confused by the BA degree and the meaning of Kerry’s bachelor of arts degree in political science.

Art and science confuses him. He probably thinks art means you can draw and that science has nothing to do with drawing.

And he sure has no idea that political science is something probably 80% of DC has studied in one form or another.

He doesn’t see the Bunsen burners, test tubes and bubbling blue liquid.

I won’t tell him that many artists also where white smocks.

Edit: “arts” degree in political science.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:02:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:02:49am

re: #342 ObserverArt

Massie is confused by the BA degree and the meaning of Kerry’s bachelor of science degree in political science.

Art and science confuses him. He probably thinks art means you can draw and that science has nothing to do with drawing.

He was just waiting for a chance to get a rhetorical zinger in there and brand all climate science “pseudo-science”, which is what will happen whenever you try to engage any denier on the topic.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:03:02am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

President Trump: “My finances are very clean.”

prove it

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:03:21am
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:03:51am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ex-Pope breaks silence to share bullshit argument.

wow

what a religion of personal responsibility

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:04:22am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky Democrats ✔
@KyDems
Thomas Massie doesn’t know how someone can get a Bachelor’s of Arts in Political Science. After watching this video, we’re unsure how he ever got any degrees from MIT: rollingstone.com

10:06 AM - Apr 11, 2019

Are his parents rich? Maybe they “Varsity Blued” his way into MIT.

Can he row?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:04:39am

re: #347 Man, DangerMan

wow

what a religion of personal responsibility

It has less to do with any sexual acts than it does with the Church leadership’s role in the coverup.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:04:45am

re: #309 A Mom Anon

Crawling out of my cave to do a happy dance. Assange needs to be dealt with in all the legal ways possible. My hope is that the process reveals how deep the corruption and treachery goes. If Assange was protected by whistleblower laws , he won’t be because of the hacking he was involved in, is that right?

I hope you all are well and life is going good for you. I read here as much as I can but so much bullshit has been happening with my own family(I am about to run away from home I miss you all. ❤️

courage camille!

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Mike Lamb  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:06:22am

re: #342 ObserverArt

Massie is confused by the BA degree and the meaning of Kerry’s bachelor of arts degree in political science.

Art and science confuses him. He probably thinks art means you can draw and that science has nothing to do with drawing.

And he sure has no idea that political science is something probably 80% of DC has studied in one form or another.

He doesn’t see the Bunsen burners, test tubes and bubbling blue liquid.

I won’t tell him that many artists also where white smocks.

Edit: “arts” degree in political science.

I mean, I understand that Massie is trying to say that Kerry is unqualified to be an expert on the science of climate change (and I’m guessing that Kerry wasn’t even called to opine on the science, but likely on policy, which he is most certainly qualified to discuss). However, this focus on his political science degree is just remarkably stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:11:39am

re: #348 ObserverArt

Are his parents rich? Maybe they “Varsity Blued” his way into MIT.

Can he row?

I know his mom.
His family is not hurting for money, but not what could be described as all that wealthy.
Although Tommy likes to brag that he’s a millionaire…he’s not

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MsJ  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:11:48am

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re: #57 mmmirele
Boring travel stuff below.

I want to pick your brains as to what I should do here. I’m going through my instructions for my upcoming trip to Japan, and the tour guide suggests a piece of luggage that holds 70 to 90 liters and a daypack that holds 35 to 50 liters.

Now this is the deal—I took a suitcase with about 110 liters of space to Japan last October and I SWORE up and down that I would not take a large suitcase again, that I’d slender down to a carry-on (even if I checked it). It was a right royal pain in the ass to haul that thing around Japan, up and down stairs, on and off buses, trolleys, shinkansens, a speed catamaran—holy crap I so do not EVER want to do that again in my life.

A 110 liter suitcase is about 29 inches high. I’m definitely not taking that.

Here’s the sizes of the other two suitcases:
A 73 liter suitcase is about 26 inches high x 10.75 inches deep x 17.5 inches wide.
A 40 liter suitcase is about 21 inches high x 9 inches deep x 14 inches wide.

And yes, that is a SIGNIFICANT volume difference.

Should I go with my initial and continuing gut feeling and get a 21 inch carry on that I intend to check in, based on my previous experience and my expectation that I would have to pack very light? Or go with the larger one, which is actually a “medium” size?

Also, if anyone has suggestions as for a good brand, I’m all ears. I’ve read so many reviews and even more expensive pieces of luggage have ZIPPER ISSUES. *sigh*

For carry on, make sure your airline allows it. Example: British Air (whom I am flying to Europe) has different requirements for carry on. They do not allow 21” carry ons. They also allow only one carry on (even if that carry on is a clutch purse the size of a postage stamp). So my purse must fit into my backpack, otherwise they will not let me go through security coming home.

How long are you going to be gone? Will you need to do laundry? Will you be able to do laundry? That will drive how much you need to take.

In my years of extensive traveling (used to be on the road 80%+ for work) I never had a zipper break. They can be stressed to the point of breaking, I suppose, if you stuff the shit out of them. I would also think hard-side bags would be more stressed than soft-siders as there is no give so the zipper takes all the stress. If you are worried, buy one of those straps that goes around the suitcase. Then, even if it breaks, everything will be contained.

Everything you pack should do double/triple duty, all should be in the same color palette, some can be for both evening and day, bring one skirt for nice if needed. Try everything on before hand and make sure it’s comfortable and you like it. If you don’t wear it at home, don’t bring it. If it is not comfortable, you won’t wear it on your trip, no matter how pretty or nice it is. Shoes especially need to be comfy. Again, double duty…day time for walking and can work with a skirt (ballet flats in a backpack are great for flight time and skirt time). I think three pairs of shoes should work…more is excess weight, but you wont want to wear the same shoes every day. It breaks them down.

Leave all the liquids you do not absolutely need at home. Hotels give you shampoo and usually conditioner. I am bringing a travel size conditioner and the facial cleanser I like, plus a travel toothbrush and the toothpaste I like. Small face moisturizer will be in my 3-3-1 carry on as will any liquid makeup I use. Nothing else.

Bring pills (in original containers, especially if prescription). Bring Pepto pills should you need them. Better to have and not need a small bottle of pills than be sick and trying to get something in a foreign country.

If you buy a new suitcase, look for the ones that are the lightest weight. A 5 pound difference in the weight of the suitcase itself is significant. Airlines have overall weight requirements, too, so that bag weight becomes doubly important when you’re looking at a 50 pound max - depending on how long you will be gone. I am going for 3 weeks so I need more stuff than less, even with my planning on doing laundry.

I prefer the two wheeled rollers that tilt (because it is easier to piggy back my backpack on to those). The other ones are four wheels that all spin so you basically push it vs pull it. Watch the size and quality of the wheels. Broken wheels means you have to carry that sucker. I had that happen with my very first suitcase some 30 years ago…as that thing had small, shitty wheels - and one broke so I had to pick it up and run with it. And I brought half my house with me as a first time traveler. It sucked ass. I was on a train and carrying that suitcase made me swear like a drunken sailor.

Think of your activities and what you need to wear for those activities. Bring as little as possible (shopping opportunities!!) because a schlepping a heavy bag around is not pleasant.

Hope this helped.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:12:38am

re: #317 ObserverArt

That last person he listens to could be him shopping for the reason and or excuse he needs. He asks for opinions and when he gets to the one he wants, then he stops there and that is the last opinion he listened to.

It was also the opinion he probably wanted just needed someone else to put the blame on when it turns to shit.

As far as no ideas…he has his hate. His policy ideas seem to be ways to make people he hates pay for it. Then he gets people like Bannon and Miller to help him fill in what he does not know and to help him get his hate on.

He gets people into positions to wreck what he doesn’t like. It is government by wrecking ball, but he always gets a person that is so gung-ho to do the wrecking Trump ends up with someone he can blame for when people fight back. Example: DHS head Nielsen.

He is the snake.

i take your points and don’t dispute. i just already know what im thinking and figure everyone can see inside my head

- he is the president
- the job is to tackle an unending firehose of issues every single day (even weekends)
- it is on 99% of those that i think he has no creative or evaluative process going on at all

- i specifically left things like hate out of my comments
- i see hate as a motivator, not as a conjured up idea or solution to something in itself
- i also see damaging the government, dismantling all things obama the same way

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:13:26am

re: #346 Scottish Dragon

Sure that it wasn’t Hodor?

He’s looking for someone to hold the door after all…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:13:28am

re: #351 Mike Lamb

I mean, I understand that Massie is trying to say that Kerry is unqualified to be an expert on the science of climate change (and I’m guessing that Kerry wasn’t even called to opine on the science, but likely on policy, which he is most certainly qualified to discuss). However, this focus on his political science degree is just remarkably stupid.

Massie has an engineering degree…that makes him no more “qualified” as an expert on climate change.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:13:35am
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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:13:57am

re: #351 Mike Lamb

I mean, I understand that Massie is trying to say that Kerry is unqualified to be an expert on the science of climate change (and I’m guessing that Kerry wasn’t even called to opine on the science, but likely on policy, which he is most certainly qualified to discuss). However, this focus on his political science degree is just remarkably stupid.

Like Wendell said in his #344, he went that route so he could call his degree “pseudo” science and then use that to discredit Kerry on any discussion on climate change.

I swear the entire Republican party acts as if they are all bratty 10-year-old rich kids playing smarmy games of gotcha.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:15:21am

All this bullshit going on in America and we’re obsessed by a discussion over the semantics of various college degrees?

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:15:46am

re: #58 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Karma ran over her dogma..

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Cry me a river. That’s her own doing.

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:16:39am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

All this bullshit going on in America and we’re obsessed by a discussion over the semantics of various college degrees?

Wingnuts who want to have a “gotcha” moment are.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:17:45am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:17:47am
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MsJ  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:18:05am

re: #62 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Also: packing cubes. I used to scoff at these, but now I have two sets of Eagle Creek packing cubes. They really do help keep clothes organized and compacted down.

Unless the packing cubes fit well into the suitcase, I found they took more room than I liked. I only use them for tee shirts and bathing suits now.

One gallon ziplocks are great for stuff like socks and undies. Smoosh all the air out and you can fit all your undies in a flat zipper compartment. Big time space saver. Belts wrapped up in shirt collars is nice to keep the shape of the collar. Stuffing things into shoes is also a nice space saver.

Some things are good for cubes. I found not everything though. I tried.

Also, I roll everything (keeps from having to iron). The Korean (???) chick whom everyone loves (Marie someone I think???) says to fold small and stack things vertically instead of horizontally. I am going to try that except I am going to roll not fold and make sure that everything rolled is packed tightly.

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:19:38am

re: #363 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Ayep. There’s a distinct difference between being handed classified info by a “whistleblower”…and soliciting that person to knowingly break the law to obtain info you cannot legally possess.

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KGxvi  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:20:33am

re: #358 ObserverArt

I swear the entire Republican party acts as if they are all bratty 10-year-old rich kids playing smarmy games of gotcha.

Edited for accuracy.

Was hanging out with one of my best friends a couple days ago - guy I’ve known since high school and basically consider a brother - we both went to law school, and he was more tied into the conservative movement stuff than I was. So I asked him what happened to the Federalist Society and all he could do was just sigh. There were a few people on the inside that saw the current state of affairs coming, but as is often the case, the people raising the earliest alarms were seen as the crackpots rather than visionaries.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:20:38am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

All this bullshit going on in America and we’re obsessed by a discussion over the semantics of various college degrees?

This is part of what is going on in America, the dumbing down of a group of easily mislead people so Republicans can pull their crap on those very dummies.

What Massie is doing in no different than what Trump does or what all Republicans are doing. And that is playing games to protect Trump. So, we discuss it.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:22:27am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

All this bullshit going on in America and we’re obsessed by a discussion over the semantics of various college degrees?

Sometimes you want to be able to get a handle on something. The less things seem to be in control, the greater the need. And the weather is bad enough in enough places to fill the need. We’re always windy in April. Today is really bad. I prefer hail, if it’s without the wind.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:23:31am

re: #339 Teukka

One word. Isolation.
It does strange things to people. Add “unmonitored” to it and it’s even worse.

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MsJ  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:23:39am

re: #87 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The hip and sternum straps really make a difference. Since I try to pack light, the pack is not too hard on my 63-year-old knees and ankles. Roller bags have their place, but for trekking around from place to place, they are more a nuisance than a boon. I only use my roller bag for my annual junket back to see the fam, and the smaller one for a short trip to some hotel somewhere in China..

I never used a hip strap but those sternum straps are FANTASTIC. It completely changes the weight distribution and make the backpack feel lighter.

I had one and cannot find it and I have not been able to find a cheap one that has it.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:23:40am

re: #365 Targetpractice

Ayep. There’s a distinct difference between being handed classified info by a “whistleblower”…and soliciting that person to knowingly break the law to obtain info you cannot legally possess.

And the whistleblower route is not a get-out-of-jail card. Ellsberg was charged to the value of 115 years, and beat it mostly because the prosecutors muffed the case. That was for secrets that were politically embarrassing rather than a real threat to national security.

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MsJ  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:24:55am

re: #88 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Another option is to send your stuff back to the States instead of lugging it back with you. There is a service called the Luggage Club that can arrange shipping. I looked into it, but their fees are too high. Using the local postal service or even UPS/FedEx/DHL would probably be cheaper.

UPS is ungodly expensive. I went to ship back a kitchen grill pan I bought (from Las Vegas to MI) and they wanted like $70. For a small package that weighed less than 10 pounds.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:25:58am
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:27:12am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It has less to do with any sexual acts than it does with the Church leadership’s role in the coverup.

My comment works at both the individual and institution levels

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:28:29am

re: #358 ObserverArt

Like Wendell said in his #344, he went that route so he could call his degree “pseudo” science and then use that to discredit Kerry on any discussion on climate change.

I swear the entire Republican party acts as if they are all bratty 10-year-old rich kids playing smarmy games of gotcha.

“I see, Senator Massie, that you don’t have a degree in politics. So I guess you’re not an expert and maybe shouldn’t be serving.”

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:28:55am

re: #351 Mike Lamb

I mean, I understand that Massie is trying to say that Kerry is unqualified to be an expert on the science of climate change (and I’m guessing that Kerry wasn’t even called to opine on the science, but likely on policy, which he is most certainly qualified to discuss). However, this focus on his political science degree is just remarkably stupid.

Massie is trying to do what should have been done to Candace Owens the other day
“What is your professional expertise”

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Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:29:54am

re: #372 MsJ

UPS is ungodly expensive. I went to ship back a kitchen grill pan I bought (from Las Vegas to MI) and they wanted like $70. For a small package that weighed less than 10 pounds.

Take few clothes, buy new there as needed. Give the old clothes you take to locals who might prize US-made stuff, or to charities. When I went TDY to places with western stores, I used it as a chance to cycle out shirts and underwear.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:34:20am

re: #377 Decatur Deb

Take few clothes, buy new there as needed. Give the old clothes you take to locals who might prize US-made stuff, or to charities. When I went TDY to places with western stores, I used it as a chance to cycle out shirts and underware.

And in one day we go from Gramma’s wringer in the basement to my new laundry system; leave it somewhere and replace as needed. Relocation may be required.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:39:42am

re: #302 Scottish Dragon

I said nearly three years ago that if Trump were elected, then the Clintons should leave the country because he would force the DOJ to come after them.,

I think we are approaching that, and he may go after Obama and others as well. His treason/spying rhetoric is building to that point where he starts political persecution.

I eagerly await such cynical overreach by a mentally-addled Trump. The Discovery process conducted under such criminal proceedings will quickly be shut down by nervous Republicans and Trump’s own lawyer team and all charges dropped.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:46:23am

re: #259 KGxvi

So, odds that Trump prematurely pardons Assange saying something like “he helped us win, gotta pay him back for that”?

Sounds like the sort of thing Trump doesn’t do. Once you have been used the knife is stuck in and you are thrown away. Maybe Putin will send him a nice cup of tea?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2019 • 10:57:57am

re: #338 danarchy

“fecal feces”? Is there any other kind?

Catshit or human shit, or maybe both mixed together?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2019 • 11:00:25am

re: #377 Decatur Deb

Take few clothes, buy new there as needed. Give the old clothes you take to locals who might prize US-made stuff, or to charities. When I went TDY to places with western stores, I used it as a chance to cycle out shirts and underwear.

From the friend I traveled with last autumn I picked up the tip of going to thrift stores to pick up some things and then redonating them right before we left. For a 10-day trip in Oregon and Washington we picked up a cooler and some other gear the first day. And my friend found a very good deal on some beach shoes that she kept.

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retired cynic  Apr 11, 2019 • 11:24:27am

re: #346 Scottish Dragon

Unfair to Dwalin!

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Old Liberal  Apr 11, 2019 • 12:09:58pm

re: #377 Decatur Deb

Take few clothes, buy new there as needed. Give the old clothes you take to locals who might prize US-made stuff, or to charities. When I went TDY to places with western stores, I used it as a chance to cycle out shirts and underwear.

US brands but are there any US made clothes?


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