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Teukka  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:30:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:33:59pm

re: #1 Teukka

I know this is satire, but it’s terrifyingly possible that Mann is right about this.

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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:37:23pm

Just a normal anti Ilhan death threat

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:38:57pm

It’s Good To Be The King!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:40:41pm

Got CL’ed downstairs.

re: #377 Romantic Heretic

Such people like nice, clear cut answers to everything. ‘The Great Intelligence wills it’ is nice and perfect.

Of course asking them what evidence there is of that Great Intelligence and what forces it used to create life will get a response of, “LALALALALALALA! I can’t hear you!”

But they’ll be the first to tell you they were ‘trained in science’.

There’s a reason Scientists are mostly liberal and engineers are far more likely to be conservative. Science is about uncertainty, about embracing the knowledge that even a p value below 0.05 doesn’t mean you’re not wrong.

A LOT of people are more uncomfortable with uncertainty than they are with being wrong.

I was discussing this with a friend who’s a biblical literalist, who told me his worldview was on rock solid ground because it came from God. I told him there is no God, and that the only thing one can be certain of is one’s own existence, and that we can each only infer that reality is in fact real. But if we treat it as though it were, it responds appropriately, so it’s a reasonable working hypothesis. He couldn’t understand how I could possibly tolerate that much uncertainty. He needed the certainty of a deity for the world to make sense to him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:43:01pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

I know this is satire, but it’s terrifyingly possible that Mann is right about this.

The difference between the Mueller Report and a climate science report is that eventually the truth will out; science ignores whatever you believe; it continues according to the laws of nature and we cannot repeal the ones we don’t like.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:43:34pm

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

Got CL’ed downstairs.

But they’ll be the first to tell you they were ‘trained in science’.

There’s a reason Scientists are mostly liberal and engineers are far more likely to be conservative. Science is about uncertainty, about embracing the knowledge that even a p value below 0.05 doesn’t mean you’re not wrong.

A LOT of people are more uncomfortable with uncertainty than they are with being wrong.

I was discussing this with a friend who’s a biblical literalist, who told me his worldview was on rock solid ground because it came from God. I told him there is no God, and that the only thing one can be certain of is one’s own existence, and that we can each only infer that reality is in fact real. But if we treat it as though it were, it responds appropriately, so it’s a reasonable working hypothesis. He couldn’t understand how I could possibly tolerate that much uncertainty. He needed the certainty of a deity for the world to make sense to him.

A deity, unless it’s a cruel one, makes the universe make even less sense to me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:44:11pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

Just a normal anti Ilhan death threat

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These fucking people.

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:46:31pm

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

Got CL’ed downstairs.

But they’ll be the first to tell you they were ‘trained in science’.

There’s a reason Scientists are mostly liberal and engineers are far more likely to be conservative. Science is about uncertainty, about embracing the knowledge that even a p value below 0.05 doesn’t mean you’re not wrong.

A LOT of people are more uncomfortable with uncertainty than they are with being wrong.

I was discussing this with a friend who’s a biblical literalist, who told me his worldview was on rock solid ground because it came from God. I told him there is no God, and that the only thing one can be certain of is one’s own existence, and that we can each only infer that reality is in fact real. But if we treat it as though it were, it responds appropriately, so it’s a reasonable working hypothesis. He couldn’t understand how I could possibly tolerate that much uncertainty. He needed the certainty of a deity for the world to make sense to him.

And I answered you…downstairs…with this:

- - -

Uncertainty is every day. Ask your friend if he knows what is coming next as far as his health, the weather, what others are going to ask of him, what accident he may be facing in the future, etc.?

It is all uncertain…and his God isn’t going to let him know either.

So what certainty does his intelligent God bring him? None.

He is basing everything on faith and faith has no certainty, only a hope. And everyone, believers or not, have hopes.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:52:33pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:53:41pm

All religion is second hand, or more hands, removed information. Everything you think you know about your religion was taught to you by someone else contemporary.

How did they learn it to teach it to you?

It is all second and actually way more hands removed than two. You heard nothing and saw nothing yourself. It’s just what other people maybe saw and mostly just what they say that other people before them heard or saw or told them.

Even say you personally witnessed a “miracle”. Unless you critically evaluate and proved it then you don’t know there’s not a “normal” scientific explanation. Or maybe you were fooled by someone…hoaxed/punked.

Virtually all religion is an appeal to apparent authority. And not even that good authority.

Generation upon generation of interpretations of a questionable and multiple times translated and edited and reorganized book. Those interpretations and translations themselves were argued about and evolved over time.

and so the segue:

Most politics is the same way. People don’t “know” much. They heard or were told, or a friend said, or they read a web site, got an email, heard part of a speech or other questionable source… facebook, twitter, etc.

And so it’s all second or more hands, skewed, interpreted, and selectively so. They do not research or do critical thinking or analysis. Just second hand so-and-so said-so.

It all becomes a meaningless cult like following.

And that’s because the thought process is the problem, not just the gullibility. It’s due to the fundamental lack of desire to learn and know. There is no cure for this.

The polarization now (i wrote this in 2016) is just one particular example.

This is more than willful ignorance. It’s willfully being led by the nose manipulation or simply tell me what to think and I will.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:56:18pm

re: #386 ObserverArt

Uncertainty is every day. Ask your friend if he knows what is coming next as far as his health, the weather, what others are going to ask of him, what accident he may be facing in the future, etc.

It is all uncertain…and his God isn’t going to let him know either.

So what certainty does his intelligent God bring him? None.

He is basing everything on faith and faith has no certainty, only a hope. And everyone, believers or not, have hopes.

In his case, he has certainty in the sense that he is absolutely certain that the god of the literal bible exists and that everything the bible - that is the KJV - is literally true. His certainty comes not from being right, but from choosing to believe, with no possibility of error.

He’s CERTAIN that he’s right. But being certain does not imply being right. He can’t tolerate the absence of such a bedrock, even though objectively it’s a choice on his part.

I haven’t talked to him in maybe 10 years, but we did talk a lot then (or type a lot, really). He struck me as a man who was too intelligent for his own beliefs. That is, a simpler mind than his could have simply accepted that his belief is a BELIEF. For him, it had to be THE ONE POSSIBLE TRUTH. He’d try to argue based on “the impossibility of any alternative”, but it was nonsense, because he had now way to disprove anything beyond “the bible tells me so”. And I think that wasn’t completely acceptable to him, but he’d learned to simply restate the whole ‘impossibility’ thing without any shred of proof.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:58:10pm

You know who’s picking up the tab for law enforcement to investigate all these death threats against AOC and Omar and Tlaib right?

Our tax dollars at work…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 1:59:25pm

re: #12 Blind Frog Belly White

Shorter version: one can be absolutely sure of something that’s absolutely wrong.

I’m more uncomfortable with the possibility of being certain while being wrong than I am of being right but being uncertain.

Others are more uncomfortable with the possibility of being uncertain.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:00:23pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:00:51pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

You know who’s picking up the tab for law enforcement to investigate all these death threats against AOC and Omar and Tlaib right?

Our tax dollars at work…

Best use they ever made of it, if it takes a racist psycho or two off the street.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:01:55pm

re: #15 jaunte

Oh I certainly hope so.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:02:17pm
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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:02:42pm

re: #17 PhillyPretzel

I don’t know if Mazars has any protection from a subpoena.

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freetoken  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:03:40pm

re: #19 jaunte

I don’t know if Mazars has any protection from a subpoena.

Didn’t they already say that they will comply if they are served a subpoena?

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:03:41pm

The Trump family has been too sloppy over the years to get away with everything they were tying to get away with.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:04:17pm

re: #20 freetoken

Didn’t they already say that they will comply if they are served a subpoena?

Yep, they just needed a note from the doctor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:04:25pm

re: #19 jaunte

I don’t know if Mazars has any protection from a subpoena.

IIRC, they responded to a request for documents by saying they were busy collecting them and preserving them, and they would be happy to turn them over in response to a subpoena.

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:05:10pm

re: #21 jaunte

The Trump family has been too sloppy over the years to get away with everything they were tying to get away with.

And yet they continue to get away with it.

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makeitstop  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:05:12pm

re: #20 freetoken

Didn’t they already say that they will comply if they are served a subpoena?

Yep. Someone termed it a ‘friendly subpoena’ or some such - ie, a matter of procedure.

They get the subpoena, they comply.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:06:31pm

Was talking to husband about the sanctuary city thing…Houston is one.

I told him:

1. Houston took in thousands of refugees from New Orleans and from Harvey. We know how to feed, clothe, and care for multitudes.

2. We can process any paperwork better here. We have more people.

3. Finding Spanish speakers is not an issue.

4. I’d rather they were safe with us.

Send them over.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:07:50pm

re: #26 BlueGrl21

Philly can handle that type of situation too. It would not be much of a problem.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:08:38pm
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makeitstop  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:08:54pm

re: #27 PhillyPretzel

Philly can handle that type of situation too. It would not be much of a problem.

NYC wouldn’t break a sweat.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:09:13pm

Malignant Ignorance.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:11:31pm

re: #28 jaunte

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Fox News would send out multiple correspondents looking for any crime committed by the transplanted migrants. It would be disgusting.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:12:13pm

re: #29 makeitstop

NYC wouldn’t break a sweat.

Dallas wouldn’t, but a good portion of the rest of the Metroplex would. That would cause Allred to lose his seat next year.

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:14:09pm

re: #27 PhillyPretzel

Philly can handle that type of situation too. It would not be much of a problem.

Does Trump know that most of the large northern American cities and others like Houston, as BlueGirl21 pointed out, are sanctuary cities?

Most of the people that would support others like them, from the countries they came from too, are already there and ready to help the transition.

Those cities are mostly Democratic and progressive too.

So, where is the punishment?

It’s just Trump doing another demonstration to his base and pissing off people that may have voted for him who are learning about the monster he is. Politically it is stupid and may actually be damaging to the fat orange one.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:14:25pm

re: #15 jaunte

Y’all, those taxes and financial records are going to end up in the hands of Democrats. They are leaving NO stone unturned. This is one of the reasons why Trump is freaking out.

Kyle Griffin
House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings is moving to issue a subpoena to obtain 10 years of Trump’s financial records from accounting firm Mazars USA.

my daily reminder:
- the accountant-client relationship enjoys a kind of limited confidentiality (nothing that would help in this situation)
- there is no privilege as with lawyers and clients
- there is no sanctity as with confessions and other religious interactions

and unless they’ve done something so knowingly and horribly wrong that they want to keep those records buried, Mazars isn’t gonna want to pay their lawyers to fight this

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:15:01pm

re: #21 jaunte

The Trump family has been too sloppy over the years to get away with everything they were tying to get away with.

The ability with an umbrella is a tell.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:15:01pm

re: #7 Belafon

A deity, unless it’s a cruel one, makes the universe make even less sense to me.

Exactly my position. If you believe in a deity that intervenes in daily human life, then you have to try to explain a lot of bad shit that happens to good people, and good shit that happens to bad people. Or you have to throw up your hands and say, “It’s a mystery! Trust in God’s Plan!”

But, you know, looking at the world, I’m thinking…

To me the universe makes more sense without anyone in charge. Or maybe there IS a god, but it doesn’t get involved in daily life. But in any case, I can’t bring myself to believe any of it - god, creation, afterlife, heaven, hell, whatever - even when I’d really, really like to be able to. When we lost Zeena, and before that Rhyo, I really, REALLY wanted to believe that one day we’d be together again. When Dad died last month, I really, REALLY wanted to believe he was with Mom someplace where they were healthy and happy and together again.

But I can’t do it. It doesn’t make any sense to me. And, really, I don’t want it to.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:16:04pm

re: #32 Belafon

Dallas wouldn’t, but a good portion of the rest of the Metroplex would. That would cause Allred to lose his seat next year.

Houston would not flinch. We are so used to taking in large groups of displaced people it would be nothing.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:16:36pm

re: #19 jaunte

I don’t know if Mazars has any protection from a subpoena.

well if you’re gonna do it in one line….

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Bubblehead II  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:16:58pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

Just a normal anti Ilhan death threat

Reported

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:17:02pm

re: #30 jaunte

Malignant Ignorance.

Malignorance!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:18:12pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

BTW, just to be clear, this is MY view and I don’t require anyone to agree with me.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:19:17pm

re: #26 BlueGrl21

re: #27 PhillyPretzel

folks like you are why i maintain hope that the arc of the moral universe does not waver

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:21:23pm

re: #28 jaunte

the reality is that this would be fine because most of these people are desperate refugees, but in the president’s head they are dangerous criminals that he would sic on American cities that largely do not vote for him in the hopes that violent crimes would increase

i would love to see all these ‘sanctuary cities’ start tweeting directly to the president:

Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:23:55pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

BTW, just to be clear, this is MY view and I don’t require anyone to agree with me.

you’ll never get a religion off the ground with that attitude //

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:24:08pm

The idea is that by releasing them they will all commit vicious crimes AND they’ll all go on welfare, destroying the budgets of the places they’re released. This is 100% pure Steven Miller thought and Trump loves it.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:24:50pm

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:25:16pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:26:12pm

re: #42 Man, DangerMan

folks like you are why i maintain hope that the arc of the moral universe does not waver

I read a column today that said news agencies that simply passed along the whole ‘punishment’ idea needed to consider how this is supposed to be a punishment. And the author’s right.

Most Sanctuary Cities are that way because they already have a lot of undocumented immigrants, and in their experience, they have been a net positive to the community. So how does it “punish” the Sanctuary Cities?

By the same token, immigrants would find themselves in a city with lots of other folks like them, where the local population welcomes them. So how does it punish the immigrants?

It only makes sense if you really do believe that “illegal aliens” are all raping, murdering MS13 members here to steal our jobs while living on welfare.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:26:24pm

re: #42 Man, DangerMan

folks like you are why i maintain hope that the arc of the moral universe does not waver

You would not believe the infrastructure we have in place to deal with this type of crisis.

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William Lewis  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:28:16pm

re: #46 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:28:35pm

re: #44 Man, DangerMan

you’ll never get a religion off the ground with that attitude //

Makes the Inquisition easy and painless, though -
“DO YOU REPENT OF YOUR HERESY?!?”

“NO!!”

“Right! Off you go then.”

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:30:51pm

re: #46 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:31:07pm

re: #26 BlueGrl21

Was talking to husband about the sanctuary city thing…Houston is one.

I told him:

1. Houston took in thousands of refugees from New Orleans and from Harvey. We know how to feed, clothe, and care for multitudes.

2. We can process any paperwork better here. We have more people.

3. Finding Spanish speakers is not an issue.

4. I’d rather they were safe with us.

Send them over.

I welcome them too. I’d love for these people to strengthen our cities and communities and show why Miller and Trump are xenophobic garbage whose xenophobic bs will end up screwing rural red America in the long run.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:31:22pm

re: #45 Skip Intro

The idea is that by releasing them they will all commit vicious crimes AND they’ll all go on welfare, destroying the budgets of the places they’re released. This is 100% pure Steven Miller thought and Trump loves it.

well they certainly can commit crimes
they cant qualify for welfare

the undocumented did in fact used to qualify for WIC benefits. i dont know if that’s still the case or if wic has been axed yet

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Amory Blaine  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:32:18pm

Got the taxes done today. Super early for me :D Ended up pretty much like last year.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:32:54pm

re: #46 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

not sorry. not hiding it:

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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:36:24pm

So is Kirstjen the one spilling to Jake Tapper?

Probs.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:39:21pm

re: #55 Amory Blaine

Got the taxes done today. Super early for me :D Ended up pretty much like last year.

Me too!! April 15 is the usual day for me, except when it’s April 16 or 17! And often I don’t start the forms until the day they are due. I filed federal on Tuesday and state today. Even though it cost money, I used TurboTax for state for the first time this year. Previously, I used the free state portal but decided to be lazy and do the simplest approach this year.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:39:28pm

So, what might have happened in Jacksonville Beach this morning?

Police said the teen gave him a series of bogus names before he was eventually identified as 16-year-old Derrick L. Conner, who is not a student at the school or from Jacksonville Beach.

Conner was apparently dropped off in the area, though his intentions remain unclear. Police said the teen would not speak with investigators beyond providing fake names.

Conner was arrested on two counts of possession of a firearm on school property, one count of possession of a firearm by a delinquent juvenile and a count of giving a false name to police

Statement sent to parents by the school:

Today, our school safety officer approached a suspicious person who was walking on 1st Avenue. Upon investigation, the officer handcuffed him and he was taken to the police station for further questioning. This is a police matter. Please know our campus is safe and the security procedures in place were followed by all. We are so fortunate to have our Jacksonville Beach Police department on our campus and we so appreciate their diligence in keeping our students safe.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:39:50pm

Repost

Ah the pwning of a superconservative…
I posted a picture of empty land and said “Not a Full Country” and this guy says-

…. turn em loose in the middle of the desert…let them start building a city.

So I said-They did that already. Worked out pretty well the place was called El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de Los Ángeles. Aka Los Angeles, aka City of Angels for the Spanish language impaired.

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CarolJ  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:40:01pm

Also a lot of northern cities have half-empty or even empty neighborhoods due to white and black flight to the suburbs. Baltimore and Detroit are bulldozing blocks of empty houses. My city has several blocks of abandoned factories that could be razed and turned into places for new housing or even converted, And my city is a mid-sized Midwestern city in a now red state..

Plus, once people get settled, many will just go wherever there’s work, family, whatever. Indeed that’s what happened to most immigrants between 1876 and 1924. As long as you were law-abiding, willing to work, an immigrant could come and stay here. If you wanted to vote, stay 5 years, take an oath of allegiance and that was it. Indeed, back then a lot of the nationalization was based in the states.

So the cities will not be as stressed as Trumpkins think after a short period.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:40:19pm

That’s the only possible redemption they see from their complicity. Telling the law breaking stories. Although still anonymously, so….

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:41:59pm

re: #46 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:43:35pm

re: #60 Unshaken Defiance

Repost

Ah the pwning of a superconservative…
I posted a picture of empty land and said “Not a Full Country” and this guy says-

So I said-They did that already. Worked out pretty well the place was called El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de Los Ángeles. Aka Los Angeles, aka City of Angels for the Spanish language impaired.

With varying degrees and types of ‘cooperation’ with the people who were already there.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:44:17pm

re: #46 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:47:52pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:50:03pm

The Party of Family Values.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:51:40pm

re: #66 jaunte

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CarolJ  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:52:20pm

re: #61 CarolJ
And even in the “big cities”, there are some blocks nearly abandoned due to suburbanization and because not enough people stay long enough to be profitable with rentals alone.

This shows once again the Trump’s Queens mentality. Never having been much beyond the circles of his bitter mentality in more than one way, he has no idea how big this country really is and how ridiculous this thing really is. We have miles and miles of nothing between urban oases, and some cities who have emptied out a long time ago.
Yes, he might try to refuse funds for temporary help, but if we can get the trifecta, and probably could get the trifecta-we can promise those states the needed funds. Also, once people can move on their own, they tend to disburse to whatever there’s opportunity.

Also, the cities are browner and blacker and more diverse than it was during the Mariel boatlift. The people most freaked out absconded towards the exurbs long ago. Those migrants won’t be coming out there unless it’s to work, so there won’t be the panic he thinks there will be.

They talk if people who want Sanctuary would be upset if a few more faces not speaking English show up as neighbors. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:53:38pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

More sand in the gears, courtesy of our racist Executive Branch.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:55:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:56:10pm

re: #70 jaunte

More sand in the gears, courtesy of our racist Executive Branch.

He has no empathy at all for people who want to come here. I wish they had kicked out his grandfather when they had the chance.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:57:08pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

You are not the only one saying that.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:57:25pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Didn’t Germany refuse to take him back because he refused military service?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:57:30pm

re: #71 jaunte

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This is just so insane. Make it easier to come here legally rather than this fucked up shit out of an authoritarian’S playbook.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:58:01pm

re: #74 jaunte

Didn’t Germany refuse to take him back because he refused military service?

I’m not sure. That would be a Trump thing to do.

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:58:19pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

Why do these right wing assholes always look like giant thumbs?

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Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2019 • 2:59:55pm

re: #66 jaunte

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The guys who can use “I feared for my life!” as a defense against virtually any criminal charge…are being tasked with determining if an asylum seeker truly fears for their safety.

FFS.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:01:14pm

re: #73 PhillyPretzel

You are not the only one saying that.

He’s so vile Philly. Anyhow, Trump loves to crap on these people. It angers me so much he’s crapping on people who simply want the same for their families that ours did. And for what? To appease a bigoted base that knows nothing about immigration law or why people are fleeing their homes.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:01:47pm

re: #71 jaunte

Maybe, the halfwits in the administration have been reading some Solzhenitsyn and completely missing the point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:02:04pm

re: #74 jaunte

Didn’t Germany refuse to take him back because he refused military service?

It was Bavaria, and yes, they kicked him out

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Jay C  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:02:48pm

re: #61 CarolJ

Also a lot of northern cities have half-empty or even empty neighborhoods due to white and black flight to the suburbs. Baltimore and Detroit are bulldozing blocks of empty houses. My city has several blocks of abandoned factories that could be razed and turned into places for new housing or even converted, And my city is a mid-sized Midwestern city in a now red state..

Plus, once people get settled, many will just go wherever there’s work, family, whatever. Indeed that’s what happened to most immigrants between 1876 and 1924. As long as you were law-abiding, willing to work, an immigrant could come and stay here. If you wanted to vote, stay 5 years, take an oath of allegiance and that was it. Indeed, back then a lot of the nationalization was based in the states.

So the cities will not be as stressed as Trumpkins think after a short period.

Well, even aside from the faux pas of using “Trumpkins” and “think” in the same sentence….

Isn’t the whole deal with “sanctuary cities” simply a matter of their refusing - on a municipal level - to cooperate with draconian Federal dragnets or citizenship-inspection dictates? I realize that reducing public issues to simpleminded caricature is only typical for the Trump Admin, but “sanctuary city” is not, AFAICT, necessarily a synonym for “law-enforcement-free zone”. Except, of course, to the Bigot Base…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:02:55pm

re: #80 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Maybe, the halfwits in the administration have been reading some Solzhenitsyn and completely missing the point.

Stephen Miller thinks Amon Goeth was the good guy in Schindler’s List.

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:03:01pm

re: #46 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:03:23pm

re: #80 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Maybe, the halfwits in the administration have been reading some Solzhenitsyn and completely missing the point.

Like Gen. Buck Turgidson in Dr. Strangelove:

“Boy, I wish WE had one of those Doomsday Machines!”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:03:44pm

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:04:11pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

So is Kirstjen the one spilling to Jake Tapper?

Probs.

What is being spilled…I may have missed something earlier???

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:05:27pm

re: #71 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:05:55pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was Bavaria, and yes, they kicked him out

Ah for once I’m happy not to be Bavarian. My Germans are from Hesse and Baden. I am sad to say though, I think I may have discovered my father’s grand aunt being a member of a nativist group which is odd considering her parents and older brothers and sister including Dad’s grandfather were from Germany and her husband was an Italian immigrant but I googled Daughters of America and didn’t look good.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:06:36pm

re: #86 Michele1

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:07:03pm

OOPS! Forgot that as a hatchling I can’t read private messages for a couple of weeks.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:07:56pm

re: #91 Michele1

OOPS! Forgot that as a hatchling I can’t read private messages for a couple of weeks.

Ha it was just me calling you hatchling and wishing you the best on a new beginning. Slainte.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:08:07pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

What is being spilled…I may have missed something earlier???

The thing where Trump told now-Acting Secretary of DHS McAleenan, then head of CPB that he should just stop letting anyone in, and if he got in legal trouble for doing it Trump would pardon him.

This is apparently after Nielsen ‘convinced’ Trump not to close the border yet.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:08:18pm

re: #86 Michele1

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calochortus  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:09:29pm

re: #91 Michele1

OOPS! Forgot that as a hatchling I can’t read private messages for a couple of weeks.

You can just assume that everyone posting a private message is saying something nice to/about you.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:09:44pm

Nativism is I think one of the most ugly traits. We’ve all been newcomers once in our lives. Whether it’s a new school, state, country, etc. I think there is something to moving around making you more open minded.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:10:07pm

re: #95 calochortus

You can just assume that everyone posting a private message is saying something nice to/about you.

Which I was, I promise :).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:10:32pm

re: #86 Michele1

Welcome back, hatchling. Or something. Anyway, welcome Michele!!

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:11:14pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

The guys who can use “I feared for my life!” as a defense against virtually any criminal charge…are being tasked with determining if an asylum seeker truly fears for their safety.

FFS.

Been saying it for years: reactionaries are trying to change the country’s understanding who gets to use lethal force and get away with it, and who gets to die without questions being asked.

Hence why “supporting the 2nd Amendment” involves simultaneously stretching the legal definition of when lethal force can be argued to be legitimate while maintaining a cultural definition of “what kinds of people are inherently threatening.” Hence why “government” shouldn’t be trusted and people should arm themselves to fight it…but any specific instance of police violence (or ICE violence, or prison abuse) can be excused because the subject deserved the harm.

At the bottom of everything, the only real rule is that the rules do no apply equally…and the law must be fitted to ensure that the right kind of people are not inconvenienced (even when they do horrible shit that is immoral) and the wrong kind of people are given no breaks.

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:11:52pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing where Trump told now-Acting Secretary of DHS McAleenan, then head of CPB that he should just stop letting anyone in, and if he got in legal trouble for doing it Trump would pardon him.

This is apparently after Nielsen ‘convinced’ Trump not to close the border yet.

Thanks. I did catch a bit of that but didn’t attribute it.

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:12:45pm

re: #91 Michele1

OOPS! Forgot that as a hatchling I can’t read private messages for a couple of weeks.

[/private]Something nice.[/private]

OOPS.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:14:52pm

re: #99 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Right. If Trayvon Martin were white, then he would have been within his rights to accost and even assault some guy stalking him, especially someone brown like Zimmerman, and Z would be in jail for murder.

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CarolJ  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:16:29pm

re: #100 ObserverArt

And if he listens to Trump, he, and any officers who follow that, should just tattoo “Sucker” on their forehead. Trump will take the benefits of their law-breaking and leave them out to dry. Not to mention that they lose their pension benefits, jobs and anything else after they go to prison-or even before. That’s not even depending on a criminal conviction-civil findings that you disobeyed the law will be sufficient.

Trump won’t lift a finger to help them with that either, even with the pardon (which he will somehow “forget”) to issue, like he forgot with Manafort and Cohen and Assange and other people he used up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:23:25pm

I dunno if anyone’s posted this yet, but this is the sort of thing you’d expect to see in The Onion - a “mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle” for the county Sheriff.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:24:46pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

Right. If Trayvon Martin were white, then he would have been within his rights to accost and even assault some guy stalking him, especially someone brown like Zimmerman, and Z would be in jail for murder.

If he were a white kid and Zimmerman still Hispanic, people like Dobbs and Tucker would be insisting it was war on whites.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:24:56pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

It is the first time I am seeing it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:25:37pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

I dunno if anyone’s posted this yet, but this is the sort of thing you’d expect to see in The Onion - a “mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle” for the county Sheriff.

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The donuts don’t stand a fucking chance now!!!

Look out chocolate…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:25:56pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

I dunno if anyone’s posted this yet, but this is the sort of thing you’d expect to see in The Onion - a “mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle” for the county Sheriff.

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They have money for that but not quality education and health care.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:27:20pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

Ratio on that one…….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:27:36pm

re: #106 PhillyPretzel

It is the first time I am seeing it.

Funny how so called anti big government conservatives don’t seem to dgaf about this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:27:45pm

OK, the image on the right is spectacular

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:28:47pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

They have money for that but not quality education and health care.

My monies on a very, very high opioid problem in the area. This is how we deal with it. Tanks….

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:30:22pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

PA has an opioid problem too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:31:06pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

My monies on a very, very high opioid problem in the area. This is how we deal with it. Tanks….

Yep.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:31:41pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

My monies on a very, very high opioid problem in the area. This is how we deal with it. Tanks….

Tanks, but no tanks.

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:32:06pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

They have money for that but not quality education and health care.

We had a sheriff here in Columbus (Franklin County) that had an armored personnel vehicle some time back, may have even been one of the first in America. He caught all kinds of hell about that. I think they retired it when the next Democrat sheriff came along. Yeah, of course he was a Republican.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:34:09pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:35:35pm

re: #117 Dave In Austin

That is a sweet picture.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:35:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:35:42pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

We had a sheriff here in Columbus (Franklin County) that had an armored personnel vehicle some time back, may have even been one of the first in America. He caught all kinds of hell about that. I think they retired it when the next Democrat sheriff came along. Yeah, of course he was a Republican.

Fiscal conservatism y’all.

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:35:47pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, the image on the right is spectacular

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All those nozzles look pretty much the same. I’d say they have the fuel burn pretty well nailed.

Probably a ton of engine management systems making sure the fuel mixture, flow, and all that good stuff are managed to get that kind of a result. Just like the efficiency with the burning of fuel in a modern car engine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:37:02pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

My monies on a very, very high opioid problem in the area. This is how we deal with it. Tanks….

It’s not like they fucking GROW the stuff there….

Maybe they’re planning to do a no-knock raid on the local Rite-Aid.

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Ferdinand  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:38:49pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

Nativism is I think one of the most ugly traits. We’ve all been newcomers once in our lives. Whether it’s a new school, state, country, etc. I think there is something to moving around making you more open minded.

This Mark Twain quote gets a lot of play but it’s rock solid wisdom: “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one’s lifetime.”

I grew up the only child of teenage mom whose shotgun marriage to my dad only lasted a couple of years in the 1970s in suburban New Jersey. There were a lot of downsides, and I could have ended up in a lot of bad places in life if not for winning the lottery of having loving grandparents who helped raise me and were able to take me on a lot of travel. Nothing influenced me as much as experiencing a large chunk of North America and a lot of foreign countries and cultures as a child and teenager.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:41:14pm

re: #123 Ferdinand

This Mark Twain quote gets a lot of play but it’s rock solid wisdom: “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one’s lifetime.”

I grew up the only child of teenage mom whose shotgun marriage to my dad only lasted a couple of years in the 1970s in suburban New Jersey. There were a lot of downsides, and I could have ended up in a lot of bad places in life if not for winning the lottery of having loving grandparents who helped raise me and were able to take me on a lot of travel. Nothing influenced me as much as experiencing a large chunk of North America and a lot of foreign countries and cultures as a child and teenager.

I really think there’s a lot of truth to what Twain said. I’ve traveled frequently and although I struggle with foreign language, I always try to learn more about the local culture whether it’s food, music, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:41:19pm

JFC

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:43:49pm

re: #122 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s not like they fucking GROW the stuff there….

Maybe they’re planning to do a no-knock raid on the local Rite-Aid.

If anything, it is to protect them from a methed-out big ass bubba in a bar fight over his woman and her new friend.

I still remember many a year ago, my one friend played drums for a country rock/western band. There was a fight that broke out at the bar way in back away from the stage which was up front by the main entrance.

The local cops came rushing in, they were only a couple blocks away on the same street. I remember three of them trying to bring down the big guy that was drunk and upset. He threw all three cops off him and literally drug two of them out the door. He was leavin’!

Paddy wagon and more cops showed up and took him away for a night or two. But it took a lot of guys to control the man mountain.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:43:55pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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GAH I HATE THAT ASSHOLE!

Not only is this going to encourage more threats against Omar but that video is EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL to the victims of 9/11 and their families. Needlessly exploitative.

FUCK TRUMP

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Ferdinand  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:46:14pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I’m still hoping to pick up my first real foreign language skills, even at 50. Oddly enough I’m pretty much down to a real dive in to either of my high school language class languages - German or Spanish. I’ve mucked about with bits of Greek and Latin over the years, mostly their influence on English, and have your average dojo student’s understanding of Japanese. Learning a language for real, though, feels refreshingly badass to me at midlife. Heh.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:46:41pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

DT cannot leave anyone alone. He always has to poke his business in where it does not belong.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:47:44pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Maybe my concern is misplaced about someone on the left assassinating deplorables — it will be the “good people on both sides” who will decide to murder some on our side. Israel never recovered from the assassination of Rabin. When the racists and anti-Semites murder Democrats, or Jews, or African Americans, or Muslims, it’s a one-off crime that doesn’t need to be investigated further. Only the individual murderer (if even that) is charged and the evil that supports these crimes continues unabated. After all there is no white nationalist terrorism in this nation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:47:53pm
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LadyBehir  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:48:02pm

re: #61 CarolJ

Also a lot of northern cities have half-empty or even empty neighborhoods due to white and black flight to the suburbs. Baltimore and Detroit are bulldozing blocks of empty houses. My city has several blocks of abandoned factories that could be razed and turned into places for new housing or even converted, And my city is a mid-sized Midwestern city in a now red state..

Plus, once people get settled, many will just go wherever there’s work, family, whatever. Indeed that’s what happened to most immigrants between 1876 and 1924. As long as you were law-abiding, willing to work, an immigrant could come and stay here. If you wanted to vote, stay 5 years, take an oath of allegiance and that was it. Indeed, back then a lot of the nationalization was based in the states.

So the cities will not be as stressed as Trumpkins think after a short period.

I was thinking this exact thing this afternoon while unwillingly listening to Rush.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:48:16pm

re: #129 PhillyPretzel

…He always has to poke his business in where it does not belong.

I think one of his ex wives said that in a deposition. ///

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:48:44pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

“Fuck Trump” should be inserted into the national anthem, the pledge of allegiance etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:48:46pm

re: #128 Ferdinand

I’m still hoping to pick up my first real foreign language skills, even at 50. Oddly enough I’m pretty much down to a real dive in to either of my high school language class languages - German or Spanish. I’ve mucked about with bits of Greek and Latin over the years, mostly their influence on English, and have your average dojo student’s understanding of Japanese. Learning a language for real, though, feels refreshingly badass to me at midlife. Heh.

I want to brush up on the French that I learned in high school & college, so I’m watching Disney movies with the French language option. It’s a bit tricky since the DVD’s are Region 1 so it’s Canadian French.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:48:59pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

Why do these right wing assholes always look like giant thumbs?

Uncle Fester.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:50:31pm
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Ferdinand  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:51:02pm

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

I want to brush up on the French that I learned in high school & college, so I’m watching Disney movies with the French language option. It’s a bit tricky since the DVD’s are Region 1 so it’s Canadian French.

Good idea! My wife has some French skills still and does similar enough stuff sometimes. Now it seems less weird to me. Heh. :)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:54:56pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

Where the heck is Graham at? That looks like the basement of my old high school.

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:54:56pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:55:02pm

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

I want to brush up on the French that I learned in high school & college, so I’m watching Disney movies with the French language option. It’s a bit tricky since the DVD’s are Region 1 so it’s Canadian French.

I worked a long time with a Québécois. She spoke to one of the French mechanics on the race team all the time and he used to say she spoke a more correct French than he did, and he was from France. It was fun listening to her, she had a great voice to go with the language.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:56:21pm

re: #134 EPR-radar

“Fuck Trump” should be inserted into the national anthem, the pledge of allegiance etc.

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all…and fuck Trump!!”

Yeah, I can get with that. ;)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:57:08pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

“Hey, what’s that animal over there with the stripey legs?”

“Okapi.”

“A copy of what?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:57:08pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

I worked a long time with a Québécois. She spoke to one of the French mechanics on the race team all the time and he used to say she spoke a more correct French than he did, and he was from France. It was fun listening to her, she had a great voice to go with the language.

Yeah, Quebec French and France French are very different. There are some French who strongly dislike the Qubecois and vice versa because of this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2019 • 3:57:39pm

re: #142 Eclectic Cyborg

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all…and fuck Trump!!”

Yeah, I can get with that. ;)

How about we use it to replace the “under god” part?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:00:47pm

Both ends against the middle.
Inside the Russian effort to target Sanders supporters — and help elect Trump

After Bernie Sanders lost his primary campaign for president against Hillary Clinton in 2016, a Twitter account called Red Louisiana News reached out to his supporters to help sway the general election. “Conscious Bernie Sanders supporters already moving towards the best candidate Trump! #Feel the Bern #Vote Trump 2016,” the account tweeted.

The tweet was not actually from Louisiana, according to an analysis by Clemson University researchers. Instead, it was one of thousands of accounts identified as based in Russia, part of a cloaked effort to persuade supporters of the Vermont senator to elect Trump. “Bernie Sanders says his message resonates with Republicans,” said another Russian tweet.

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ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:00:51pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, Quebec French and France French are very different. There are some French who strongly dislike the Qubecois and vice versa because of this.

And she was from Old Quebec too! That I think is about as Québécois as one can get.

She mentioned there was not a lot of love between them and the French.

Or, the rest of Canada! ; )

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:01:07pm

re: #142 Eclectic Cyborg

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all…and fuck Trump!!”

Yeah, I can get with that. ;)

Lets go with the 1923 version.

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all…. Also Fuck Trump

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:02:30pm

re: #148 Michele1

That works for me.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:05:27pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

How about we use it to replace the “under god” part?

Okay:
“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, fuck Trump, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all…and !!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:08:44pm

re: #147 ObserverArt

And she was from Old Quebec too! That I think is about as Québécois as one can get.

She mentioned there was not a lot of love between them and the French.

Or, the rest of Canada! ; )

Yeah…the rest of Canada and Quebec have had a love/hate relationship for years. There’s long been a secessionist movement in Quebec and there was a referendum in that province in 1995 in which “Stay” won out but some of the resentment is warranted. Quebec likes to act bigger and more important than they actually are.

Years ago, near one of the main roads entering Quebec City there was a sign that said “Welcome to the National Capital”. However, Quebec is NOT the Canadian capital, Ottawa, Ontario is. Quebec is only a provincial capital.

The larger areas in Quebec tend to have separate Francophone and Anglophone communities that regularly clash with each other. It’s a long and complex (albeit fascinating) history when you dig into it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:10:55pm

good fucking grief.

let me tell you though that he had no freaking idea how to properly install a septic system

as for designing and installing a self-sustaining energy system for his home, he ain’t all that special or unique in this county. (Hint: it’s not rocket science, just expensive.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:12:54pm

he is such an embarrassment

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:13:12pm

“I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, FUCK TRUMP, and to the Republic for which it stands, FUCK TRUMP again, one Nation under God (who is not motherfucking TRUMP), indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. FUCK that LYING PIGFUCKING MOTHERFUCKER TRUMP with a backhoe.”

But it doesn’t scan well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:14:07pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

“FWIW, I designed and installed my home’s self sustaining energy system and I am more knowledgeable about alternative energy than any other elected official in Washington DC.”

Wow, fucking arrogant much?

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:18:17pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief.

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let me tell you though that he had no freaking idea how to properly install a septic system

as for designing and installing a self-sustaining energy system for his home, he ain’t all that special or unique in this county. (Hint: it’s not rocket science, just expensive.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:18:54pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:20:40pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ahh. They are perfect. :)

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:21:55pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Makes going out and adopting a kitty so tempting!

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:23:58pm

re: #159 Patricia Kayden

Makes going out and adopting a kitty so tempting!

I want them all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:25:32pm

re: #158 PhillyPretzel

Ahh. They are perfect. :)

I am in love with the wee bison kitteh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:27:27pm

he meant to do that…was practicing all week…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:28:40pm

IT WAS A JOKE, YOU LIBTURDS…

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:31:28pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

Like Gen. Buck Turgidson in Dr. Strangelove:

“Boy, I wish WE had one of those Doomsday Machines!”

Starts in 1/2 an hour on TCM, followed by “Being There.” A Peter Sellers fest, or something more esoteric…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:31:30pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:41:53pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:43:18pm

heh

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:43:21pm

re: #166 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What Ole_Jimbo was quote tweeting:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:44:41pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

The Party of Family Values.

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Wait a second!

That asshole was married FIVE FUCKING TIMES???????

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:45:34pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:46:52pm

re: #170 teleskiguy

Cool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:47:39pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:48:56pm

Never mind

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:49:33pm

re: #173 Dave In Austin

No thanks.
snopes.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:50:44pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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As a GMU alum, I’m pretty pissed.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:51:57pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Notta. It’s always projection with these assholes. Always.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:52:56pm

re: #174 PhillyPretzel

Thank you

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:53:21pm

oh, and the moron-in-chief has that selectively edited video as a pinned tweet.

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nicdanger  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:53:29pm

re: #46 Bubblehead II

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:56:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:57:44pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jeebus…I actually know what those two tools are: a dibble and a seed drill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:59:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 12, 2019 • 4:59:41pm

He loves inciting threats and violence against politicians who cross him. The truth is Omar is more opposed to religious extremism than he is. She didn’t dismiss 9/11. She correctly said it shouldn’t be used to smear all Muslims and guess what, it shouldn’t and that was the message of the last Republican Potus before Trump as wrong as he was in the military response to 911.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:01:06pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:01:40pm

This is what some of the MAGAts are saying about Assange

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:06:53pm

re: #179 nicdanger

That account is dead to me. I would ask you to repost that message to me under my new nic if you would please. Also post it in the clear. I am a “hatcling” and am prevented from reading private messages for the next 2 weeks. Which is kinda weird. I can post a private message, but can’t read the reply’s :-).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:08:54pm

re: #185 gocart mozart

This is what some of the MAGAts are saying about Assange

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Something tells me that prick is going to be forced to attend Uncle Vlad’s Polonium Tea Party!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:17:14pm

lots of Nunes jokes…

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:18:47pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

lots of Nunes jokes…

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“The Streets of Miami” by Allan Sherman

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:18:49pm

re: #86 Michele1

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New in town?
You seem…familiar

If they ask about pizza, be careful

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dell*nix  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:21:34pm

re: #91 Michele1

Congratulations!

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Chrysicat  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:23:00pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:23:00pm

I just ordered a pizza with ham, bell peppers, and *pineapple* from the local pizza truck and none of you can do a goddamned thing about it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:24:27pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

I just ordered a pizza with ham, bell peppers, and *pineapple* from the local pizza truck and none of you can do a goddamned thing about it.

Save me a slice

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:24:34pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:32:15pm

Damn. There’s a collector’s item.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:33:27pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:33:55pm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:34:12pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

Sherman didn’t get the same recognition as Tom Lehrer did, and his life was cut short.

Here’s a clip that made the rounds on the Dr. Demento show in the day:

Harvey & Sheila

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:34:35pm

re: #190 Man, DangerMan

New in town?
You seem…familiar

If they ask about pizza, be careful

I brought a can of pineapple. I understand they like pineapple. :-)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:34:49pm

re: #191 dell*nix

Congratulations!

Thanks.

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Jay C  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:35:09pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

I just ordered a pizza with ham, bell peppers, and *pineapple* from the local pizza truck and none of you can do a goddamned thing about it.

Be that way, then….

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Old Liberal  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:35:27pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief.

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let me tell you though that he had no freaking idea how to properly install a septic system

as for designing and installing a self-sustaining energy system for his home, he ain’t all that special or unique in this county. (Hint: it’s not rocket science, just expensive.)

What’s a self sustaining energy system? Did he create the first perpetual motion machine?

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:36:54pm

re: #199 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sherman didn’t get the same recognition as Tom Lehrer did, and his life was cut short.

Here’s a clip that made the rounds on the Dr. Demento show in the day:

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He shall live forever on vinyl and electrons:

Shticks Of One And A Half Dozen Of The Other

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:37:03pm

re: #202 Jay C

If you’re ever in town, the pies from the food trailer are really good.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:37:43pm

Best wishes….

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:39:27pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

If you’re ever in town, the pies from the food trailer are really good.

According to Yelp, they are closed on Monday.

Bizarre….

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:41:22pm

re: #207 Eric The Fruit Bat

According to Yelp, they are closed on Monday.

Bizarre….

Makes sense. It’s just the two people running it, gotta take a day off.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:43:48pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

He shall live forever on vinyl and electrons:

Ah-yup. I remember the first commercial on TV when I was young that had Alan Sherman doing the commercial for a board set from Milton Bradley that was loosely based on Camp Grenada.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:43:58pm

re: #207 Eric The Fruit Bat

According to Yelp, they are closed on Monday.

Bizarre….

Not really. Many Mom and Pop shops are closed Sunday and Monday instead of the traditional Sat/Sun. My hairdresser is one.

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Citizen K  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:45:11pm

re: #210 Michele1

Not really. Many Mom and Pop shops are closed Sunday and Monday instead of the traditional Sat/Sun. My hairdresser is one.

Saturdays tend to be big business days when everyone else is off, so….

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:48:20pm

re: #209 Eric The Fruit Bat

Ah-yup. I remember the first commercial on TV when I was young that had Alan Sherman doing the commercial for a board set from Milton Bradley that was loosely based on Camp Grenada.

I could do this all day.

Allan Sherman - Good Advice

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:49:48pm

re: #210 Michele1

Many Mom and Pop shops are closed Sunday and Monday instead of the traditional Sat/Sun.

Up in my neck of the woods the mom & pop retailers would usually have Saturday closing at 1 PM and they would be closed on Sunday.

Looks like every area has their own sabbath….

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:52:54pm

re: #21 jaunte

The Trump family has been too sloppy over the years to get away with everything they were tying to get away with.

No, they were just clean enough to get away with everything they were getting away with until Donald decided he needed to play president. Then they opened up a whole new level of interest and investigation into their dealings.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:53:52pm

re: #199 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sherman didn’t get the same recognition as Tom Lehrer did, and his life was cut short.

Here’s a clip that made the rounds on the Dr. Demento show in the day:

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I have all of his music
We played it hundrrds of times growing up
I sing his stuff all the time

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:54:48pm

re: #200 Michele1

I brought a can of pineapple. I understand they like pineapple. :-)

We tolerate them

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:57:44pm

re: #214 KGxvi

No, they were just clean enough to get away with everything they were getting away with until Donald decided he needed to play president. Then they opened up a whole new level of interest and investigation into their dealings.

Ding

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 5:58:50pm

re: #215 Man, DangerMan

I have all of his music
We played it hundrrds of times growing up
I sing his stuff all the time

You had to be lucky to catch stuff on TV back then. We used to wait all year for a rerun.

Allan Sherman sings CRAZY DOWNTOWN his Petula Clark parody

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:00:32pm

the boid was delicious, he tasted just swell….

YouTube

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:01:02pm

re: #213 Eric The Fruit Bat

Up in my neck of the woods the mom & pop retailers would usually have Saturday closing at 1 PM and they would be closed on Sunday.

Looks like every area has their own sabbath….

in my neck of TheBackwoods, most businesses (and local government offices) are closed Wednesday afternoon, Saturday afternoon, and all day Sunday.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:01:10pm

re: #215 Man, DangerMan

I have all of his music

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nicdanger  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:01:42pm

re: #186 Michele1

That account is dead to me. I would ask you to repost that message to me under my new nic if you would please. Also post it in the clear. I am a “hatcling” and am prevented from reading private messages for the next 2 weeks. Which is kinda weird. I can post a private message, but can’t read the reply’s :-).

Got it,here ya are: “Well done my friend.You have much to be proud of.I can’t imagine the courage it has taken you to become who you are and be happy !”

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:04:57pm

re: #218 wrenchwench

You had to be lucky to catch stuff on TV back then. We used to wait all year for a rerun.

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Yessss! I’ve seen that

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:06:40pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:07:43pm
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plansbandc  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:08:26pm

re: #199 Eric The Fruit Bat

So great!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:11:28pm

re: #86 Michele1

Transferred your subscription over to the shiny new name, and you’re good to go!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:13:27pm

re: #222 nicdanger

Got it,here ya are: “Well done my friend.You have much to be proud of.I can’t imagine the courage it has taken you to become who you are and be happy !”

Thank You.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:13:45pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:14:22pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

Transferred your subscription over to the shiny new name, and you’re good to go!

Thank you Charles.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:15:04pm

re: #221 Eric The Fruit Bat

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:19:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:22:00pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:22:08pm

There’s so much funk in this it makes George Clinton pass tf out.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:23:59pm

re: #234 teleskiguy

There’s so much funk in this it makes George Clinton pass tf out.

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Killer track. The whole album is insanely great.

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:25:19pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

Killer track. The whole album is insanely great.

Louis Cole is one of those musicians where I’m like, is dude actually a robot?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:25:24pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:25:43pm

re: #232 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And, Myers has been heavily lobbying for a number of years that NOAA (he’s nominated to lead) should not publicly disperse weather forecasts. That they should merely put out raw data. So private ventures (like his AccuWeather) can sell their forecast products

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:32:07pm

re: #238 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And, Myers has been heavily lobbying for a number of years that NOAA (he’s nominated to lead) should not publicly disperse weather forecasts. That they should merely put out raw data. So private ventures (like his AccuWeather) can sell their forecast products

Where AccuWeather uses the government provided raw data, of course.

Socialize the costs, privatize the profits, just like Pro$perity Go$pel Je$u$ preached.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:32:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:36:53pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:39:10pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

Even after almost 10 years they still can’t get you off their minds.

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TedStriker  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:40:13pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

Louis Cole is one of those musicians where I’m like, is dude actually a robot?

Cole may not be a robot, but he is a fucking machine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:50:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:52:38pm
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:52:54pm

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:54:49pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:55:07pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 6:57:35pm

re: #247 goddamnedfrank

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:00:45pm

re: #247 goddamnedfrank

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austin_blue  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:03:13pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

I just ordered a pizza with ham, bell peppers, and *pineapple* from the local pizza truck and none of you can do a goddamned thing about it.

We can wince.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:04:48pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:05:39pm

re: #249 teleskiguy

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austin_blue  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:07:53pm

re: #253 wrenchwench

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Smarter than the lawyer.

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:10:51pm

re: #254 austin_blue

Smarter than the lawyer.

They hate that. A lot of them.

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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:11:39pm

re: #253 wrenchwench

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:13:07pm

re: #256 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

Peremptory challenge.

Thank you. I used to know that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:14:19pm
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mmmirele  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:16:37pm

re: #247 goddamnedfrank

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:17:20pm

What Lil’ Ben is whining about
VVV

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:18:26pm

Night Lizards. As always. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

The Morning After by Maureen McGovern

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:29:19pm
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austin_blue  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:29:44pm

Well, we’re back from two weeks in the UK and I was completely off-grid except for UK newspapers.

It was nice not having to get Drumpfed in the face 24/7.

We went to Duxford and saw an amazing display of airplanes. We went to the Tower of London, met some ravens and the Ravenmaster, and saw some ridiculously over-the-top jewelry. We saw a beautifully curated Picasso exhibit.

Then up to Edinburgh for a harp festival. Great music, great beer, a visit to the Surgeon’s Museum, where I learned about all of the arcane ways people can, and do, die. It’s amazing any of us have a peaceful death.

Oh, and by the way, if you think our system of government is just a complete disaster right now, you should see what is going on in the UK. It really is poultry in a hailstorm.

At this point the House of Commons couldn’t agree that food, clothing, and shelter are necessary for a decent life. Theresa May is just a ghost of a political corpse, desperately shuttling between Brussels and London, and getting the shit beat out of her by all sides.

All in all, watching a government even more dysfunctional than ours was oddly… calming.

We can move the needle, going forward, and make things better. Right now, the UK can’t.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:37:41pm

Belly full of cheap frozen pizza and beer.
Mets win in Atlanta, and I got to watch on TV
Life is good in the cave by the river

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:48:55pm
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A hollow voice says, Oringes...  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:56:19pm

re: #265 goddamnedfrank

If the Radical Left Democrats all of a sudden don’t want the Illegal Migrants in their Sanctuary Cities (no more open arms), why should others be expected to take them into their communities? Go home and come into our Country legally and through a system of Merit!

Who said we don’t want them in our sanctuary cities?

(Not that they’d necessarily stay there — relatives, friends, community members… but I expect we can spring for bus fare to get them where they want to go.)

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ThomasLite  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:57:03pm

re: #247 goddamnedfrank

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 12, 2019 • 7:59:47pm

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2019 • 8:09:57pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 12, 2019 • 8:10:02pm

The mockingbird that moved a couple blocks away two months ago is back tonight. If I had a Benjamin 5mm and thermal scope I’d take that motherfucker out tonight.

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Teukka  Apr 12, 2019 • 8:10:08pm
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Teukka  Apr 12, 2019 • 8:11:20pm

re: #271 Teukka
Forgot the responses to JMS’ twees:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 12, 2019 • 8:23:35pm

re: #264 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Belly full of cheap frozen pizza and beer.
Mets win in Atlanta, and I got to watch on TV
Life is good in the cave by the river

Hell, it was even a better day than I thought

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sagehen  Apr 13, 2019 • 6:18:42am

re: #266 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

Who said we don’t want them in our sanctuary cities?

(Not that they’d necessarily stay there — relatives, friends, community members… but I expect we can spring for bus fare to get them where they want to go.)

Would they be counted in the census? Thus increasing our number of Congressional seats?


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