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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:39:05am

Paul Ryan fails upwards, as wingnuts often do.

news.nd.edu (Notre Dame University, an article where they have hired Paul Ryan to teach economics, history, and current political polarization in politics. He knows nothing of the first, little of the second, and is an architect of the third.)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:41:02am

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹

Paul Ryan fails upwards, as wingnuts often do.

news.nd.edu (Notre Dame University, an article where they have hired Paul Ryan to teach economics, history, and current political polarization in politics. He knows nothing of the first, little of the second, and is an architect of the third.)

Yeah my alma mater hired Kavanaugh. I ain’t happy.

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austin_blue  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:43:46am

The fact that the French have already pledged over $700,000,000 for repairs is staggering.

I wish our Gov’t had as much love and respect for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:44:05am

CBS in Denver is reporting that Sol Pais was in custody and died later. They still didn’t say how she died, but according to their reporting there was no shooting. The Clear Creek County coroner is going to conduct an investigation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:44:47am

re: #3 austin_blue

The fact that the French have already pledged over $700,000,000 for repairs is staggering.

I wish our Gov’t had as much love and respect for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands…

And Flint…

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austin_blue  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:47:00am

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

CBS in Denver is reporting that Sol Pais was in custody and died later. They still didn’t say how she died, but according to their reporting there was no shooting. The Clear Creek County coroner is going to conduct an investigation.

Local TV says she died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. She was found near the base of Mt. Evans.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:47:29am

Crenshaw is such a jerk.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:48:59am

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

Crenshaw is such a jerk.

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He really does take the award for: “Uncoolest guy with an eye patch ever”

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:50:56am

Steve, do you…like movies about gladiators?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:50:59am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

He really does take the aware for: “Uncoolest guy with an eye patch ever”

He thinks he’s Nick Fury but he’s really Nick Phony.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:53:12am

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

Crenshaw is such a jerk.

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He’s a dick.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:56:10am

Frankly Crenshaw has revealed himself politically to be a typical Republican. Just as dishonest and just as full of shit. He owes Omar a big fat apology but he won’t since he thinks he’s above criticism.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:57:51am

re: #9 jaunte

A modern-day Wewelsburg Castle.

en.wikipedia.org

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:57:58am

Rep. Peter King claims that the asylum process is broken, and that Trump’s fixing it.

He’s fixing it in the way that a crook hires a fixer to eliminate the problem.

The reality is that the asylum process is broken, but for an entirely different reason.

It’s broken because of a lack of judges available to process the claims in a timely manner. It’s the same problem with immigration generally. Visa overstays are the main reason people are here illegally - not because they crossed the border illegally. Failing to deal with all the paperwork and failing to timely process the claims is why there’s a mess.

The number of people seeking asylum has climbed because of various crises across Latin America, but the US continues to throttle the number of people coming in and denying more asylum claims than they have in the past few years (although the number of those claims adjudicated is under 45,000 a year for the past decade). The percentage of those who have asylum relief granted remains 30% and below (and actually ticked up in 2018). This isn’t a crisis.

We’re talking about 45,000 people being processed for asylum claims. We have a nation of over 324 million. Those seeking asylum is .000138 of the US population.

That’s the threat here. That is what Trump and the GOP are so fearful of.

UPDATE:
Source of asylum stats.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 17, 2019 • 10:58:11am

…..and the horse you rode in on.

He’s back! Roy Moore prepares for Alabama Senate rematch after Republican lost in the wake of a string of claims of sexual misconduct with teenage girls

Roy’s buddy’s election eve admission that the two of them had actually visited a pedo-pay house in Vietnam remains one of the most amazing political moments of the last 20 years. Of course, he denied that they patronized the place but an MP officer who knew about such a place really needs a damn good explanation for why he didn’t shut it down. No such explanation was forthcoming.

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:00:08am

re: #14 lawhawk

Dynamiting the house to avoid painting it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:00:15am

re: #14 lawhawk

Rep. Peter King claims that the asylum process is broken, and that Trump’s fixing it.

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He’s fixing it in the way that a crook hires a fixer to eliminate the problem.

The reality is that the asylum process is broken, but for an entirely different reason.

It’s broken because of a lack of judges available to process the claims in a timely manner. It’s the same problem with immigration generally. Visa overstays are the main reason people are here illegally - not because they crossed the border illegally. Failing to deal with all the paperwork and failing to timely process the claims is why there’s a mess.

The number of people seeking asylum has climbed because of various crises across Latin America, but the US continues to throttle the number of people coming in and denying more asylum claims than they have in the past few years (although the number of those claims adjudicated is under 45,000 a year for the past decade). The percentage of those who have asylum relief granted remains 30% and below (and actually ticked up in 2018). This isn’t a crisis.

We’re talking about 45,000 people being processed for asylum claims. We have a nation of over 324 million. Those seeking asylum is .000138 of the US population.

That’s the threat here. That is what Trump and the GOP are so fearful of.

What asylum abuses? King disgraces his Irish heritage everyday he engages in the same xenophobic crap directed at our ancestors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:00:29am

re: #14 lawhawk

The only “asylum abuses” at the border are being committed by the trump administration

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:01:00am

re: #6 austin_blue

Local TV says she died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. She was found near the base of Mt. Evans.

Channel 4 in Denver (CBS) is saying she died in custody, quoting the police, but they did not say how she died.

I suspect the usual applies here: The news will frequently get things wrong or leave things out in an initial report.

I imagine the coroner or the police will release a statement as soon as they can.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:04:24am

Bernie… yo…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:07:10am

re: #21 lawhawk

Bernie… yo…

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You know, maybe not the best thing to complain about sinister millionaires after you hid being one to keep your populist street creds. I’m not worth anywhere near wealthy as Bernie is and I don’t want his left wing Trump ass at the top of our ticket and there are millions like me.

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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:08:20am

re: #21 lawhawk

Bernie… yo…

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Bernie playing his best hits from 2016. You know, back when he won the nomination by advocating against “the establishment”?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:08:58am

re: #23 Targetpractice

Bernie playing his best hits from 2016. You know, back when he won the nomination by advocating against “the establishment”?

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He ain’t nothing but a left wing version of Trump.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:09:05am

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

LIzards need answers:

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:09:32am
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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:09:57am

Schumer recruits Amy McGrath to run against McConnell

The lede suggests that it’s more evidence of frayed relations between McConnell and Schumer.

Oh fucking really? McConnell eviscerates comity, holds open the empty Scalia seat preventing Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland from ever getting considered in committee, let alone a vote, and these media hacks continue to treat this like Schumer’s got to maintain some kind of good relations with the guy who has done more damage to the nation than anyone else over the past several years - including Trump and Ryan.

Good. Democrats should be targeting GOPers across the Senate who are up for reelection. To retake the Senate, they’ll have to do much more of this. Democrats have to act with the desperation needed in retaking the House last year.

The only way to begin undoing the damage the GOP has inflicted over the past two years is to take back the Senate, which continues to rubber stamp Trump picks for the judiciary and across the admin (where Trump bothers to actually nominate someone).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:11:48am

re: #17 jaunte

Dynamiting the house to avoid painting it.

Followed up by committing insurance fraud and absconding with the money.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:11:58am

re: #25 Colère Tueur de Lapin

LIzards need answers:

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I’d stay away from his service and focus on what he’s done in Congress which is to be a lying right wing dick.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:12:28am

re: #27 lawhawk

Schumer recruits Amy McGrath to run against McConnell

The lede suggests that it’s more evidence of frayed relations between McConnell and Schumer.

Oh fucking really? McConnell eviscerates comity, holds open the empty Scalia seat preventing Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland from ever getting considered in committee, let alone a vote, and these media hacks continue to treat this like Schumer’s got to maintain some kind of good relations with the guy who has done more damage to the nation than anyone else over the past several years - including Trump and Ryan.

Good. Democrats should be targeting GOPers across the Senate who are up for reelection. To retake the Senate, they’ll have to do much more of this. Democrats have to act with the desperation needed in retaking the House last year.

The only way to begin undoing the damage the GOP has inflicted over the past two years is to take back the Senate, which continues to rubber stamp Trump picks for the judiciary and across the admin (where Trump bothers to actually nominate someone).

Excellent choice.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:12:42am

re: #25 Colère Tueur de Lapin

LIzards need answers:

That person’s entire bio reads: Just a taxpayer with opinions.

I have an opinion. Put up or shut up.

No source for this “credible evidence.” Just a statement.

Let’s leave the liars on the right. We don’t need that sort of crap. If he did fabricate military service, there are a number of veteran organisations and others who are dedicated to exposing stolen valour.

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:13:01am

re: #21 lawhawk

Sadly, it really does seem like the ratfucking is winning out. Any time I step out of here or my personal Twitter timeline it’s all folks lording Lord Bernie or tearing down folks like Tanden or CAP just because they’re who Bernie is screaming at that day.

The Right’s personal enemies seem to be Ilhan Omar, AOC, and Pelosi, while the left seems to be concerned with….Neera Tanden and Pelosi.

The ratfucking is working.

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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:13:09am

We’ve seen the shit Crenshaw is playing at with other Republicans before: “What, somebody has a problem with the way I’m acting? It’s obviously all a conspiracy by the Dems to make me look bad!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:13:11am

re: #18 HappyWarrior

What asylum abuses? King disgraces his Irish heritage everyday he engages in the same xenophobic crap directed at our ancestors.

His ancestors are white Europeans, not POC, so he is on board with the xenophobia directed against anyone of color. Don’t you know, as Andrew Sullivan proudly proclaims, these “others” don’t share our superior cultural heritage and are intellectually inferior anyway?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:13:43am

re: #32 Citizen K

Sadly, it really does seem like the ratfucking is winning out. Any time I step out of here or my personal Twitter timeline it’s all folks lording Lord Bernie or tearing down folks like Tanden or CAP just because they’re who Bernie is screaming at that day.

The Right’s personal enemies seem to be Ilhan Omar, AOC, and Pelosi, while the left seems to be concerned with….Neera Tanden and Pelosi.

The ratfucking is working.

Don’t confuse Twitter with the rank and file please.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:15:56am

re: #34 Hecuba’s daughter

His ancestors are white Europeans, not POC, so he is on board with the xenophobia directed against anyone of color. Don’t you know, as Andrew Sullivan proudly proclaims, these “others” don’t share our superior cultural heritage and are intellectually inferior anyway?

That’s true. Mine were too. The thing is they were disparaged by the ideological ancestors of King and Sully for being Catholic, not Anglo Saxon, or enthralled with Laiessez Faire capitalism. Quotas on Slavic immigrants like my maternal great grands were done because of red baiting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:16:38am

re: #27 lawhawk

I think Amy will do much better against McConnell in a state-wide election than she did against Andy Barr in a congressional district election.

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Citizen K  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:17:15am

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Don’t confuse Twitter with the rank and file please.

If it was just Twitter, I could take it. Hell, I rarely slip out of my personal follows at this point because of this.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:17:16am

re: #33 Targetpractice

We’ve seen the shit Crenshaw is playing at with other Republicans before: “What, somebody has a problem with the way I’m acting? It’s obviously all a conspiracy by the Dems to make me look bad!”

Yeah going after Rose with this is really showing his true colors. I won’t disparage his military service but his Congressional service is thus far that of a self serving partisan hack.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:17:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:18:02am

re: #34 Hecuba’s daughter

The Irish were not “white” back in the day.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:18:06am

re: #38 Citizen K

If it was just Twitter, I could take it. Hell, I rarely slip out of my personal follows at this point because of this.

Fair enough. Just try not to despair. I think the debates will expose Bernie’s shallowness to a lot of voters.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:18:58am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Irish were not “white” back in the day.

Thomas Nast’s cartoons of the Irish could have drawn by Ben Garrison.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:19:46am

re: #40 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Barr making Ashcroft look like RFK.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:21:41am

re: #34 Hecuba’s daughter

His ancestors are white Europeans, not POC, so he is on board with the xenophobia directed against anyone of color. Don’t you know, as Andrew Sullivan proudly proclaims, these “others” don’t share our superior cultural heritage and are intellectually inferior anyway?

They made the same claims against Slavic Europeans in the XX Century (hence the wildly racist 1924 Immigration Act).

I imagine I could outsmart Rep. Peter King with most of my brain cells tied behind my back.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:22:01am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

That person’s entire bio reads: Just a taxpayer with opinions.

I have an opinion. Put up or shut up.

No source for this “credible evidence.” Just a statement.

Let’s leave the liars on the right. We don’t need that sort of crap. If he did fabricate military service, there are a number of veteran organisations and others who are dedicated to exposing stolen valour.

Someone can be brave and courageous in combat and become an ignorant toady once they return to civilian life. These attacks seem similar to those used against Senator Max Cleland, who lost 3 limbs during service in Vietnam. He lost to his GOP challenger, because the GOP does not respect service except from those who are RWNJ. Let’s focus on his performance in office, not on his service.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:24:25am

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

They made the same claims against Slavic Europeans in the XX Century (hence the wildly racist 1924 Immigration Act).

I imagine I could outsmart Rep. Peter King with most of my brain cells tied behind my back.

Basically they went after any group who wasn’t a Protestant of Western European Ancestry which is pretty much my entire line except funnily my surname’s line who were German Lutherans.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:24:28am

re: #46 Hecuba’s daughter

I agree, military service or lack thereof is not an indicator of a politician’s ability or positions.

That said, going after Rep. Crenshaw with an unsubstantiated claim of “maybe he faked his military service” is nothing more than slander unless you have evidence of that.

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Jay C  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:25:42am

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Thomas Nast’s cartoons of the Irish could have drawn by Ben Garrison.

Except that Nast could draw (a lot) better.

And I’m sure if the Irish did something to piss the RWNJs off, Garrison would be quick to revive the beetle-browed, slack-jawed “bogtrotter” caricature in a second…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:26:07am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Basically they went after any group who wasn’t a Protestant of Western European Ancestry which is pretty much my entire line except funnily my surname’s line who were German Lutherans.

I am the proud descendant of illegal immigrant grandparents from Poland. Rep. Steve King would deport me back there if he had his way.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:26:09am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:27:52am

re: #49 Jay C

Except that Nast could draw (a lot) better.

And I’m sure if the Irish did something to piss the RWNJs off, Garrison would be quick to revive the beetle-browed, slack-jawed “bogtrotter” caricature in a second…..

Yeah Nast didn’t need labels lol. But I know the Irish got on the RWNJs bad side recently by legalizing SSM, abortion, & electing a half Indian openly gay man as their Taoseach who brought his partner to meet Mother’s Husband when Pence was disgracing is in Ireland.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:29:18am

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

I am the proud descendant of illegal immigrant grandparents from Poland. Rep. Steve King would deport me back there if he had his way.

Border buddy. My Slovak Rusyns are from just near the Polish-Slovak border. Being multiethnic is one of many reasons I live by a welcoming example.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:32:22am

So, it begins

Beware ZOMBIE MAN BEAR PIG ! ! !

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:34:01am

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Dr Frankenstein already did that

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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:34:49am

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, it begins

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Beware ZOMBIE MAN BEAR PIG ! ! !

Yes, but were the brains labeled “Abbie Normal”?

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:36:28am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Irish were not “white” back in the day.

That’s true. But Irish and European Catholics are “white” now. Many in the church, both priests and parishioners, have aligned themselves with the Evangelical right. They are not only anti-abortion but anti-immigrant and anti-black. I suspect most are part of the Catholic backlash against Pope Francis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:37:17am

So my son wanted Assassin’s Creed Unity for his birthday.

Spent €19.95 on it.

Found out the next day that in honor of the Notre Dame fire, they have made it free of charge.

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retired cynic  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:41:14am

re: #40 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

ACLU

@ACLU
BREAKING: Attorney General William Barr tonight directed immigration judges to deny bond hearings to asylum seekers.

Our Constitution does not allow the government to lock up asylum seekers without basic due process.

We’ll see the administration in court. Again.

This is just being mean for no damn good reason. ~ Juanita Jean, hitting the nail right smack on the head.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:42:12am

re: #57 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s true. But Irish and European Catholics are “white” now. Many in the church, both priests and parishioners, have aligned themselves with the Evangelical right. They are not only anti-abortion but anti-immigrant and anti-black. I suspect most are part of the Catholic backlash against Pope Francis.

“White” seems to be a concept that applies to “can this group help our political party?” You can be thrown out of the white club just as fast as you are accepted into it.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:42:26am

I wonder if the president is aware of this. Somebody should tweet him.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:42:58am
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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:43:09am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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I wonder if the president is aware of this. Somebody should tweet him.

Cue more newspaper stories about how Trump is favored to win reelection because “the polls have been wrong before.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:44:48am

The thing is and this is why I laugh my ass off when white supremacists say “WE SHOULD UNITE OVER OUR COMMON WHITENESS” and it’s like uh your ideological ancestors were the same ones saying my family really wasn’t “white” because they were the wrong religion, ethnic background, and didn’t look “Western.” Not that I would join up with white supremacists anyhow since I think racial superiority is an absurd construct but it’s really funny when white supremacists want me to forget that they were the ones who told my mom’s grandparents that they didn’t belong in this country or my Dad’s that their Catholic faith meant that electing one of them would mean they would side with the Pope over secular means. Besides I subscribe to the notion that we’ve all been a newcomer at one point so why not welcome people who WANT to be here. Why not welcome people whose children will grow up loving this country and serving it in some way. When Germany invaded Czechoslovakia in the late 30’s and when the original “America Firsters” could have cared less about Hitler, my grandmother’s cousin enlisted in the Marines. He ended up planting the flag on Iwo Jima with five other guys including a Native American named Ira Hayes. Ira admired cousin Mike. Ira’s family had been in the US for generations in Arizona and Mike had arrived as a boy but they respected each other and didn’t see one as inferior to the other. That’s how it should be. America is not about a race or ethnicity. It’s about wanting to belong. And that’s something Nativists have never gotten about this country whether they were bellyaching about the Irish in the Famine years or today complaining about asylum seekers.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:45:21am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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I wonder if the president is aware of this. Somebody should tweet him.

That’s why I refuse to go glass half empty. We can and will beat this asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:45:56am

re: #63 Targetpractice

Cue more newspaper stories about how Trump is favored to win reelection because “the polls have been wrong before.”

It’s going to be a bitch for him when the nominee isn’t HRC and he won’t benefit from years of right wing rage against her.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:46:26am

re: #34 Hecuba’s daughter

His ancestors are white Europeans, not POC, so he is on board with the xenophobia directed against anyone of color. Don’t you know, as Andrew Sullivan proudly proclaims, these “others” don’t share our superior cultural heritage and are intellectually inferior anyway?

I heard that Tory Twit whining on Hardball yesterday just wishing Tweety would tell him to STFU!

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Mike Lamb  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:46:50am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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I wonder if the president is aware of this. Somebody should tweet him.

“We’re no. 1!”

“No such thing as bad press!”

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William Lewis  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:47:19am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ouch. Refund?

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Targetpractice  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:47:39am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

It’s going to be a bitch for him when the nominee isn’t HRC and he won’t benefit from years of right wing rage against her.

Not to worry, the media’s already decided that the DNC can’t be allowed to win because they’ve invested too much time and money into “normalizing” Donny.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:48:11am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

It’s going to be a bitch for him when the nominee isn’t HRC and he won’t benefit from years of right wing rage against her.

He’s really hoping that the Russians can make Bernie the nominee.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:48:46am

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, it begins

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Beware ZOMBIE MAN BEAR PIG ! ! !

Yeah…can’t wait for Night Of The Living Dead Pigs…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:49:23am

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s really hoping that the Russians can make Bernie the nominee.

Yep. Fortunately that’s not gonna be the case.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:51:04am

William Barr is a powerful and dangerous man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:52:13am

LOL

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:55:58am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

…. America is not about a race or ethnicity. It’s about wanting to belong. And that’s something Nativists have never gotten about this country whether they were bellyaching about the Irish in the Famine years or today complaining about asylum seekers.

That’s one thing I respected about McCain (as well as his courage during Vietnam) — his very eloquent defense of the best of our heritage:

We are citizens of the world’s greatest republic, a nation of ideals, not blood and soil. We are blessed and are a blessing to humanity when we uphold and advance these ideals at home and in the world

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 11:59:03am

re: #76 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s one thing I respected about McCain (as well as his courage during Vietnam) — his very eloquent defense of the best of our heritage:

Exactly. I may have disagreed with how to achieve our goals with McCain but I would never say he didn’t understand our principles. He did. Trump does not.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:01:30pm

re: #26 jaunte

“Lies told in darkness, paid for by god knows who.”

Sums up our national conversation about as well as anything I’ve seen lately.

Been trying to work with the Google News Lab people; they are well-intentioned, but there is an epic level of denial going on about the torrent of radioactive shit that is YouTube.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:02:28pm

re: #72 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah…can’t wait for Night Of The Living Dead Pigs…

Didn’t pigs in China initiate the pandemic in World War Z?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:08:20pm

Immigrant Andrew Sullivan Haaaaate Immigrants. How Ever Could That Be? (Wonkette)

Andrew Sullivan was on “Hardball” last night. Essentially he was explaining he likes Trump’s racist immigration policies, he just doesn’t like the pitchman.

He also went after Zerlina Maxwell for suggesting Sullivan read Malcom Nance’s book “The Plot to Destroy America.”

It’s the same from people like David Frum (who was also on the show) and Jennifer Rubin. The racism’s fine. They just wish Trump was using GOP-approved dogwhistles.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:08:28pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Didn’t pigs in China initiate the pandemic in World War Z?

Nah, that was “Outbreak.” A bat was eating a piece of fruit that fell into a pigpen, eaten by a piglet that was killed and the chef with the bloody hands took a selfie with Gwyneth Paltrow.

Talk to the guys at the CDC about how plausible something like this is, and they just go quiet.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:09:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:12:06pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:19:09pm

re: #69 William Lewis

Ouch. Refund?

Theoretically, if son had kept receipt…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:20:13pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

WATCH: Right-wing Christians stage bizarre passion play by dressing up as Pete Buttigieg and whipping Jesus (Raw Story)

I really don’t understand religion.

This is not religion, this is massive delusional idiocy masquerading as a belief system.

They are terribly threatened by a churchgoing openly gay person.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:22:14pm

re: #81 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Nah, that was “Outbreak.” A bat was eating a piece of fruit that fell into a pigpen, eaten by a piglet that was killed and the chef with the bloody hands took a selfie with Gwyneth Paltrow.

Talk to the guys at the CDC about how plausible something like this is, and they just go quiet.

Contagion not Outbreak. And wasn’t bird crap, being a bird flu variant and all?
Outbreak was the infected capuchin monkey

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:22:48pm

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

Immigrant Andrew Sullivan Haaaaate Immigrants. How Ever Could That Be? (Wonkette)

Andrew Sullivan was on “Hardball” last night. Essentially he was explaining he likes Trump’s racist immigration policies, he just doesn’t like the pitchman.

He also went after Zerlina Maxwell for suggesting Sullivan read Malcom Nance’s book “The Plot to Destroy America.”

It’s the same from people like David Frum (who was also on the show) and Jennifer Rubin. The racism’s fine. They just wish Trump was using GOP-approved dogwhistles.

Which is why I posted earlier that I just wished Tweety would have told that Tory Queen to STFU!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:23:36pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

WATCH: Right-wing Christians stage bizarre passion play by dressing up as Pete Buttigieg and whipping Jesus (Raw Story)

I really don’t understand religion.

Did anyone put the Benny Hill theme on speakers while that was going on?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:23:48pm

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is not religion, this is massive delusional idiocy masquerading as a belief system.

They are terribly threatened by a churchgoing openly gay person.

I’m not the person to make the call “this is true Christianity, and that is false.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:24:13pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Didn’t pigs in China initiate the pandemic in World War Z?

In WWZ it was illegal Chinese organ dealers…one reason that they had to send the screenplay for a major rewrite before it could be screened for the Chinese market.

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:26:43pm

re: #3 austin_blue

The fact that the French have already pledged over $700,000,000 for repairs is staggering.

I wish our Gov’t had as much love and respect for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands…

Apple has apparently pledged to help fund the rebuild. And apparently most of the money has come from French businesses and billionaires.

I suppose the difference with Notre Dame and our tragedies is that it’s much easier to concentrate around a single building/entity than it is for something wider like a city or island.

Sort of reminds me of how after 9/11 the Red Cross got more blood donations than ever before. It was a sense of doing something to help with the recovery effort for a lot of people… but there ended up not being many recipients.

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ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:28:36pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Border buddy. My Slovak Rusyns are from just near the Polish-Slovak border. Being multiethnic is one of many reasons I live by a welcoming example.

My Slovak grandfather came over as an indentured servant of the Aultman-Taylor Machinery Company in Mansfield Ohio for his tool and die and machining skills.

How does that kind of thing fall into the thinking about immigrants and whether wanted or not?

There were all kinds of reasons for people to come to America, it’s sickening some now want to simplify it all down to calling everyone illegal aliens. Two words that are now nothing but an excuse to ‘other’ people and put them in a category of not my problem, they are not like us and I don’t care.

This country is as cold as ever.

Edit: Die…not dye.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:28:41pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

WATCH: Right-wing Christians stage bizarre passion play by dressing up as Pete Buttigieg and whipping Jesus (Raw Story)

I really don’t understand religion.

Did anyone ask if Jesus enjoyed it?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:29:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:30:36pm

CBS in Denver is now reporting that the woman from Florida may have killed herself with a self-inflicted gunshot wound. They’re also reporting she took an Uber ride to the campground.

denver.cbslocal.com

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ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:32:39pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

Cue more newspaper stories about how Trump is favored to win reelection because “the polls have been wrong before.”

I’m thinking it will be more like: If the Democrats were more accommodating of President Trump and worked for the good of the country, then Trump would have enjoyed two years of positive polling!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:33:00pm

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In WWZ it was illegal Chinese organ dealers…one reason that they had to send the screenplay for a major rewrite before it could be screened for the Chinese market.

Like the remake of Red Dawn, was initially Chinese, but rewrote to North Koreans

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:33:41pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

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It would explain why he’s eager to discredit it.

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:35:10pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

My Slovak grandfather came over as an indentured servant of the Aultman-Taylor Machinery Company in Mansfield Ohio for his tool and dye and machining skills.

How does that kind of thing fall into the thinking about immigrants and whether wanted or not?

There were all kinds of reasons for people to come to America, it’s sickening some now want to simplify it all down to calling everyone illegal aliens. Two words that are now nothing but an excuse to ‘other’ people and put them in a category of not my problem, they are not like us and I don’t care.

This country is as cold as ever.

There’s always been a nativist strain of American politics. Remember Daniel Day Lewis’s character in Gangs of New York complaining not only about the recently freed slaves, but the dirty Irish who were fouling up his fair city.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:37:02pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

My Slovak grandfather came over as an indentured servant of the Aultman-Taylor Machinery Company in Mansfield Ohio for his tool and dye and machining skills.

How does that kind of thing fall into the thinking about immigrants and whether wanted or not?

There were all kinds of reasons for people to come to America, it’s sickening some now want to simplify it all down to calling everyone illegal aliens. Two words that are now nothing but an excuse to ‘other’ people and put them in a category of not my problem, they are not like us and I don’t care.

This country is as cold as ever.

What gets me OA is how smug people are that MY ANCESTORS DID IT RIGHT. And we’ve seen through genealogical research that a lot of them like Tami Lahren’s ancestor and Trump’s grandfather did not in fact and John Kelly’s grandfather was still only speaking Italian. I actually recently started a biography of Honus Wagner- family lore is that my Dad’s mother’s father was friends with him but that’s another story. Anyhow Honus’s parents were German immigrants and the biographer talks about how Honus spoke German at home as his first language. I’m sure that was the case for my dad’s father’s father. I know that my mom’s maternal grandmother never learned English fully. A lot of people born here have it made because of the hard work others did before them and they shit on the newcomers. It breaks my heart so much when I see some of my cousins I’ve met through my research resort to the same Know-Nothing crap that was directed at our ancestors.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:37:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:38:02pm

re: #99 KGxvi

There’s always been a nativist strain of American politics. Remember Daniel Day Lewis’s character in Gangs of New York complaining not only about the recently freed slaves, but the dirty Irish who were fouling up his fair city.

I think what makes these times unique is that it’s the American President leading the Nativist charge. Lincoln wasn’t a Nativist. And you know what, Jackson for all his flaws and made he had a lot of them wasn’t really one either.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:38:21pm

re: #101 lawhawk

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The plot thickens.

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KerFuFFler  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:38:36pm

Hi everybody, I just logged in so I don’t know if people have discussed this, but on the Maddow show last night I learned that in 1989 William Barr wrote a memo for the justice department attempting to justify allowing FBI officers to arrest Noriega in Panama. When the existence of the memo got leaked, Congress had Barr appear for questioning. He refused to provide them with a copy but told them he would “summarize the main conclusions”. They later got hold of the memo and discovered that he had materially misrepresented the contents and meaning of the memo———-the exact thing he appears to be doing again right now!

My question is, why was he not disbarred for lying to Congress, or Hell, why was he not prosecuted for that felony? Why did the Senate confirm as AG a man known for lying to Congress?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:40:17pm

re: #104 KerFuFFler

Hi everybody, I just logged in so I don’t know if people have discussed this, but on the Maddow show last night I learned that in 1989 William Barr wrote a memo for the justice department attempting to justify allowing FBI officers to arrest Noriega in Panama. When the existence of the memo got leaked, Congress had Barr appear for questioning. He refused to provide them with a copy but told them he would summarize the main conclusions. They later got hold of the memo and discovered that he had materially misrepresented the contents and meaning of the memo———-the exact thing he appears to be doing again right now!

My question is, why was he not disbarred for lying to Congress, or Hell, why was he not prosecuted for that felony? Why did the Senate confirm as AG a man known for lying to Congress?

The Senate GOP Majority was going to confirm pretty much anyone Trump picked IMO. Barr is dirty as hell. It’s really bad when Sessions looks ethical compared to you. Not defending Sessions’ odious views but he was more ethical in his job than Barr is and was.

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:40:33pm

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

Immigrant Andrew Sullivan Haaaaate Immigrants. How Ever Could That Be? (Wonkette)

Andrew Sullivan was on “Hardball” last night. Essentially he was explaining he likes Trump’s racist immigration policies, he just doesn’t like the pitchman.

He also went after Zerlina Maxwell for suggesting Sullivan read Malcom Nance’s book “The Plot to Destroy America.”

It’s the same from people like David Frum (who was also on the show) and Jennifer Rubin. The racism’s fine. They just wish Trump was using GOP-approved dogwhistles.

I now want to go to grad school for a PhD in Political Science just so I can write a dissertation based on this sentence:

Can liberal democracy only thrive at Taylor Swift concerts?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:45:39pm

I’m trying to think if we ever truly had a Nativist as President. Wilson was a bigot too but I wouldn’t really characterize him as a nativist necessarily. Millard Fillmore later ran on the Know Nothing ticket but he didn’t use the power of the Presidency to deny Irish emigrants who were arriving in the thousands during his Presidency which coincided with the Famine and coincidentally enough for me is when my Nana’s maternal grandfather arrived from Ireland. On the other side. You had Lincoln who spoke I think as well about the ugliness of nativism as he did about the evils of slavery. And you had President Ford who welcomed people fleeing Vietnam in the aftermath of the Vietnam War which IMO was President Ford’s finest hour as President.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:49:08pm

re: #101 lawhawk

It’s funny that they didn’t do this, say, 1 year ago. I’m just wondering about the timing compared to Trump going after them.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:49:15pm

So, you remember that USCG officer who was arrested with a huge cache of firearms and a hit list of prominent Democrats and journalists?

Well, his lawyer is seeking his release on bail because prosecutors haven’t charged him with terrorism or anything apparently related to the hit list.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:49:26pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Unpossible! Donald Trump would never do something like this and then lie about it.

i may have said this right here on this site 4 or so days ago.

yes. yes, i did.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:49:35pm

Trump I think shows that Nativism is about race and ethnicity though. Exempting Obama, no otehr President has a more recent pedigree than he does given that Trump’s paternal grandparents, mother, and two of his three were immigrants. That’s all done by his supporters to suggest that he’s not being bigoted and just wants people to follow the law but Trump as we know has shown hostility towards asylum seekers and people emigrating from what he considers “shithole countries.”

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:50:11pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

I’m thinking it will be more like: If the Democrats were more accommodating of President Trump and worked for the good of the country, then Trump would have enjoyed two years of positive polling!

using that logic think of how much obama could have accomplished

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:50:15pm

re: #106 KGxvi

I now want to go to grad school for a PhD in Political Science just so I can write a dissertation based on this sentence:

Ariana Grande has voter registration booths at her concerts. Only related because you brought up a singer.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:50:40pm

re: #109 lawhawk

So, you remember that USCG officer who was arrested with a huge cache of firearms and a hit list of prominent Democrats and journalists?

Well, his lawyer is seeking his release on bail because prosecutors haven’t charged him with terrorism or anything apparently related to the hit list.

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If he had been a Muslim of color, Trump would have tried to use it as a pretext to kick Muslims out of the armed forces.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:50:52pm

re: #101 lawhawk

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better late than never

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:54:06pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Trump I think shows that Nativism is about race though.

Any concept American nativism that goes beyond our Native Americans is hypocritical pig swill.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:54:20pm

re: #109 lawhawk

So, you remember that USCG officer who was arrested with a huge cache of firearms and a hit list of prominent Democrats and journalists?

Well, his lawyer is seeking his release on bail because prosecutors haven’t charged him with terrorism or anything apparently related to the hit list.

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Is anyone surprised?

I’m not.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:54:20pm

But it’s not just Trump. You read about people who have called the cops on Hispanics because “they look illegal.” Hispanic immigrants are conflated with being illegal. And white immigrants are conflated with being legal or even ignored that they’re immigrants. The aforementoned Sullivan is from the UK. The nation’s biggest pusher via FNC of xenophobic garbage is an Australian. National Review employed John Derbyshire who was in fact undocumented for years while he pushed bigoted crap against PoC and immigrants. Gorka is an immigrant too. There’s definitely a lot of racism that goes with nativism and it’s foolish to ignore that IMO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:56:40pm

and nobody cared…they had better things to do

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:57:02pm

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Any concept American nativism that goes beyond our Native Americans is hypocritical pig swill.

Nativism I think is absurd whereeer you go but it’s especially absurd in the US.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:57:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 12:59:06pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah I don’t get the point of this.

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mmmirele  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:00:07pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

WATCH: Right-wing Christians stage bizarre passion play by dressing up as Pete Buttigieg and whipping Jesus (Raw Story)

I really don’t understand religion.

I don’t recognize this religion. I mean, really? Really? REALLY?

Jesus, save us from your professional followers. *sigh*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:02:28pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:02:45pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get the point of this.

I agree that it is stupid for Democrats to deal with Fox News, but I don’t see how this is throwing Fox News a meaningful lifeline.

The twin pillars of Fox News are:

1) Endless money from the GOP establishment

2) Endless cover from other news organizations to enable their constant propaganda.

Nothing Sanders or an individual (D) politician will affect either of these foundations.

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retired cynic  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:04:06pm

re: #101 lawhawk

FBI Investigating Manhattan DA For Bribery After Letting Off Trump’s Kids

Hooray! About F’in time!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:04:28pm
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:04:50pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Nativism I think is absurd whereeer you go but it’s especially absurd in the US.

It is especially absurd in the United States - we’re not like the modern European nation-states, which are largely based on long-standing ethnolinguistic groups (Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, the French, the Germans, etc.).

It’s utterly ridiculous.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:07:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:07:58pm

re: #128 Dr Lizardo

It is especially absurd in the United States - we’re not like the modern European nation-states, which are largely based on long-standing ethnolinguistic groups (Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, the French, the Germans, etc.).

It’s utterly ridiculous.

Indeed. We were never formed on the basis of ethnicity, religion, etc. We were formed based on the principles of the Declaration and Constitution and even though the Founders definitely were flawed and prejudiced, that was their intention when they set up the Republic. The colonies were full of men, women, and children from many different backgrounds. I’ve found way, way distant relatives of mine who settled in Pennsylvania generations before Lexington and Concord.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:08:40pm
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William Lewis  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:08:54pm

re: #123 mmmirele

I don’t recognize this religion. I mean, really? Really? REALLY?

Jesus, save us from your professional followers. *sigh*

Amen

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:10:54pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Indeed. We were never formed on the basis of ethnicity, religion, etc. We were formed based on the principles of the Declaration and Constitution and even though the Founders definitely were flawed and prejudiced, that was their intention when they set up the Republic. The colonies were full of men, women, and children from many different backgrounds. I’ve found way, way distant relatives of mine who settled in Pennsylvania generations before Lexington and Concord.

And it’s been my experience that such an idea is difficult for modern Czechs to understand. After all, their nation was formed in the wake of the First World War and also as a result of the National Awakening in the previous century, which saw the birth of modern Czech nationalism.

The idea of a nation that isn’t ethno-linguistically based is not easy for many of them to wrap their heads around.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:13:42pm

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

And it’s been my experience that such an idea is difficult for modern Czechs to understand. After all, their nation was formed in the wake of the First World War and also as a result of the National Awakening in the previous century, which saw the birth of modern Czech nationalism.

The idea of a nation that isn’t ethno-linguistically based is not easy for many of them to wrap their heads around.

And you know what, I think nationalism may have had a place in the days of empires like the Austrian-Hungarian one because culture was being suppressed. But that’s not the case here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:16:53pm

good grief

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:19:50pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have a Motarola Droid phone and they glued the battery in, and most places, like Ifixit wont touch it because you’d have to special order the battery, use a heat gun to melt the glue, etc.

The phone works otherwise, except the battery is essentially toast. The suggestion by more than a few people is to carry a battery brick or get a battery case to extend the life.

Why

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:21:14pm

re: #136 lawhawk

I have a Motarola Droid phone and they glued the battery in, and most places, like Ifixit wont touch it because you’d have to special order the battery, use a heat gun to melt the glue, etc.

The phone works otherwise, except the battery is essentially toast. The suggestion by more than a few people is to carry a battery brick or get a battery case to extend the life.

Why

Capitalism…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:23:20pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

But it’s not just Trump. You read about people who have called the cops on Hispanics because “they look illegal.” Hispanic immigrants are conflated with being illegal. And white immigrants are conflated with being legal or even ignored that they’re immigrants. The aforementoned Sullivan is from the UK. The nation’s biggest pusher via FNC of xenophobic garbage is an Australian. National Review employed John Derbyshire who was in fact undocumented for years while he pushed bigoted crap against PoC and immigrants. Gorka is an immigrant too. There’s definitely a lot of racism that goes with nativism and it’s foolish to ignore that IMO.

And it’s not new. William F. Buckley’s racism was on clear display in his debate at Oxford, and his support of apartheid.

While there are certainly racists on the left, they normally don’t get power. Racism is a feature of conservatism and always has been. Conservatives are still butthurt over their racist war they lost 150 years ago.

For today’s racist conservatives claiming the Southern Strategy never happened, the rejoinder is to ask which party fights to keep the Confederate Battle Flag flying and monuments to traitors up.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:23:32pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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They want to do the same thing Trump has done to the GOP. Hopefully enough people are gone before that.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:24:03pm

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

And it’s not new. William F. Buckley’s racism was on clear display in his debate at Oxford, and his support of apartheid.

While there are certainly racists on the left, they normally don’t get power. Racism is a feature of conservatism and always has been. Conservatives are still butthurt over their racist war they lost 150 years ago.

For today’s racist conservatives claiming the Southern Strategy never happened, the rejoinder is to ask which party fights to keep the Confederate Battle Flag flying and monuments to traitors up.

Correct.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:24:58pm

re: #123 mmmirele

I don’t recognize this religion. I mean, really? Really? REALLY?

Jesus, save us from your professional followers. *sigh*

Oh I recognize it as the prevalent form of Xtianity in America!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:26:04pm

re: #136 lawhawk

I have a Motarola Droid phone and they glued the battery in, and most places, like Ifixit wont touch it because you’d have to special order the battery, use a heat gun to melt the glue, etc.

The phone works otherwise, except the battery is essentially toast. The suggestion by more than a few people is to carry a battery brick or get a battery case to extend the life.

Why

Which Droid is it?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:28:42pm

NASA T.V. is now live for today’s Antares launch.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:30:49pm

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

Which Droid is it?

Not the Droid you’re looking for.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:32:10pm

re: #144 Mike Lamb

Damn… got there first.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:32:11pm

re: #144 Mike Lamb

Not the Droid you’re looking for.

LOL

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:32:12pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

Depending on how many candidates are alive for Super Tuesday… there is an outside chance for a brokered convention.

There’s the four early contests (IA, NH, NV, and SC) then there’s Super Tuesday which includes California, Texas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, and Virginia as the big states on March 3. Early/absentee voting in California is going to start around February 3, which happens to be the same day as the Iowa caucuses.

With that wrinkle of early voting happening when the first four contests are going on, we might not see the traditional field narrowing until after Super Tuesday.

In other words: shit could get real weird, man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:33:10pm

re: #126 retired cynic

Hooray! About F’in time!

They are also investigating the dropped cases against Jeffery Epstein and Harvey Weinstein.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:34:03pm

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

Which Droid is it?

grapefruit pitch if ever there was one

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:34:10pm

Stand by for a lie-fest.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:35:39pm

re: #109 lawhawk

So, you remember that USCG officer who was arrested with a huge cache of firearms and a hit list of prominent Democrats and journalists?

Well, his lawyer is seeking his release on bail because prosecutors haven’t charged him with terrorism or anything apparently related to the hit list.

Yikes! I could take over whole third world countries with that stash (and a skilled gang to work them). The RWNJs have a habit of accumulating multiple weapons, even though they can just use one at a time. Collector interest is one thing, as are different hunting guns for different game, but that is not what is going on when someone accumulates an arsenal of current, functional military and police style weapons.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:37:11pm

re: #147 KGxvi

Depending on how many candidates are alive for Super Tuesday… there is an outside chance for a brokered convention.

There’s the four early contests (IA, NH, NV, and SC) then there’s Super Tuesday which includes California, Texas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, and Virginia as the big states on March 3. Early/absentee voting in California is going to start around February 3, which happens to be the same day as the Iowa caucuses.

With that wrinkle of early voting happening when the first four contests are going on, we might not see the traditional field narrowing until after Super Tuesday.

In other words: shit could get real weird, man.

Now that California is part of the Super Tuesday contests, I see it more as that’s the day a whole bunch of candidates will throw in the towel.

California moving its primary seems to make it less likely to me of a brokered convention rather than more likely.’

If I was king of determining primaries, I would have every state conduct them on the same day.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:38:15pm

re: #147 KGxvi

Depending on how many candidates are alive for Super Tuesday… there is an outside chance for a brokered convention.

There’s the four early contests (IA, NH, NV, and SC) then there’s Super Tuesday which includes California, Texas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, and Virginia as the big states on March 3. Early/absentee voting in California is going to start around February 3, which happens to be the same day as the Iowa caucuses.

With that wrinkle of early voting happening when the first four contests are going on, we might not see the traditional field narrowing until after Super Tuesday.

In other words: shit could get real weird, man.

I really hope it doesn’t come to that. I hope by this time next spring we have an idea who the nom will be and unite around him/her. I love the Berners double standard tho. It’s okdy for Bernie to win with 30% of the vote but somehow Clinton “stole” it from him even though she got a higher percentage of the popular vote than Obama did in the 2008 primaries. Bernie busters are very undemocratic when Bernie is concerned.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:39:24pm

Didn’t know about this until today.
AG Barr is a British soft-drink company.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:41:13pm

Unfortunately and I like him but I think Booker will be done early and the two governors. Can’t see Julian Castro going far either. Ditto Gillibrand. Warren is a wild card imo as is Mayor Pete and Beto. Beto, Bernie, Biden if he runs, & Harris I see lasting the longest with certainty. Klobuchar is also a wild card imo.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:42:07pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

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Jay C  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:42:38pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

You’re right in principle, of course; except in practice, American attitudes towards immigration have always been - in one degree or another - subject to the minor modification I’ve added below:

Indeed. We were never formed on the basis of ethnicity, religion, etc. We were formed based on the principles of the Declaration and Constitution and even though the Founders definitely were flawed and prejudiced, that was their intention when they set up the Republic. The colonies were full of white men, women, and children from many different backgrounds. I’ve found way, way distant relatives of mine who settled in Pennsylvania generations before Lexington and Concord.

And the current flap over “immigration reform” is just the latest recurrence of the old fundamental prejudices.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:43:31pm

re: #156 lawhawk

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I like him but he doesn’t seem to be making a dent but that could change if he stands out in the debates.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:43:46pm

re: #157 Jay C

You’re right in principle, of course; except in practice, American attitudes towards immigration have always been - in one degree or another - subject to the minor modification I’ve added below:

And the current flap over “immigration reform” is just the latest recurrence of the old fundamental prejudices.

Definitely.

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:43:50pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹

Now that California is part of the Super Tuesday contests, I see it more as that’s the day a whole bunch of candidates will throw in the towel.

California moving its primary seems to make it less likely to me of a brokered convention rather than more likely.’

If I was king of determining primaries, I would have every state conduct them on the same day.

If we all actually went to vote on March 3, sure, that makes sense. But ballots will be coming in as those first four contests are going on. Makes more sense to wait it out and see what happens on Super Tuesday. Especially if as much as a quarter of voters cast ballots before the actual primary date.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:44:06pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

I really hope it doesn’t come to that. I hope by this time next spring we have an idea who the nom will be and unite around him/her. I love the Berners double standard tho. It’s okdy for Bernie to win with 30% of the vote but somehow Clinton “stole” it from him even though she got a higher percentage of the popular vote than Obama did in the 2008 primaries. Bernie busters are very undemocratic when Bernie is concerned.

if the q1 fundraising trend continues through q2, some things may clear up pretty quickly

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:45:09pm

re: #161 Man, DangerMan

if the q1 fundraising trend continues through q2, some things may clear up pretty quickly

Yeah we’re going to see a different field as we head into the fall imo.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:45:24pm

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:46:59pm

When do the debates begin anyhow?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:47:29pm

I’m interested in seeing these men and women in how they debate and discuss the issues.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:47:35pm
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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:48:04pm

re: #156 lawhawk

Honest question:

What good would making election day a national holiday actually do?

There are a lot of national holidays where most people work - MLK’s Birthday, Washington’s Birthday (aka Presidents’ Day), Columbus Day, Veterans’ Day. I doubt most businesses are going to close for election day the way that they do for the “major” holidays (and hell, there are plenty of business that don’t even close for all of those).

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:50:07pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

When do the debates begin anyhow?

Wikipedia has dates in June and July.

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:50:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:50:26pm

I don’t discount Sanders or Biden at all but I think both benefit right now immensely from name recon.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:51:10pm

re: #168 KGxvi

Wikipedia has dates in June and July.

Okay good time then, we should be able to see who’s a contender and pretender in the summer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:51:14pm

So are we all in agreement that Bernie vs. Trump is the worst possible scenario for 2020?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:51:23pm

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

She should just show up in Kentucky and meet with some coal miners and tell them she’d hoped to be there with Andy Barr but he was too chicken to show up and talk to them.

it’s like the rest of the world is 2-3 days behind us here on LGF

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:51:36pm

Damn it. I missed it

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:51:49pm

re: #167 KGxvi

Honest question:

What good would making election day a national holiday actually do?

There are a lot of national holidays where most people work - MLK’s Birthday, Washington’s Birthday (aka Presidents’ Day), Columbus Day, Veterans’ Day. I doubt most businesses are going to close for election day the way that they do for the “major” holidays (and hell, there are plenty of business that don’t even close for all of those).

That depends on how you write the bill.

Many businesses do close for other holidays, excepting certain businesses required for urgent things. For holidays such as Presidents Day, nearly everything here is closed.

Most things besides garden shops are closed for our one state holiday, Arbor Day.

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:52:33pm

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

So are we all in agreement that Bernie vs. Trump is the worst possible scenario for 2020?

I would fully expect a “legit” third party challenge if it looks like that will be the general election. I would also probably be very sympathetic to whomever leads that third party challenge.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:52:40pm

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

So are we all in agreement that Bernie vs. Trump is the worst possible scenario for 2020?

Could be worse.

Tulsi vs. Trump

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:52:44pm

re: #173 Man, DangerMan

it’s like the rest of the world is 2-3 days behind us here on LGF

Different time zone or something. /s

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:53:17pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹

Could be worse.

Tulsi vs. Trump

Summon the meteors.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:53:18pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹

Could be worse.

Tulsi vs. Trump

Yeah I think Tulsi versus Trump would be even worse.

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:53:36pm

The GOP needs a RICO prosecution at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:53:55pm

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

Summon the meteors.

I’m crashing on your couch in the CR if that’s the race :). Tulsi isn’t going anywhere though.

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:54:53pm

“…Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the Chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Reform, sent a letter to Ranking Member Jim Jordan in response to unprecedented letters Jordan sent to 12 companies urging them not to cooperate with the Committee’s ongoing investigation into the skyrocketing prices of prescription drugs.

Cummings noted that Jordan had professed concern with the Committee’s commitment to safeguarding sensitive documents, but Jordan failed to mention that he was the one blocking a protocol to protect such documents.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:55:10pm

Well, there’s this:

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:55:35pm

I suppose letters discussing price fixing would be “sensitive documents.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:56:31pm

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹

Well, there’s this:

[Embedded content]

Well I wonder what Franky Graham Cracker gonna say bout that!

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:56:52pm

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹

Lifetime rating from HRC: 0

But still… good for him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:56:57pm

re: #172 Eclectic Cyborg

So are we all in agreement that Bernie vs. Trump is the worst possible scenario for 2020?

Yeah the idea of two nominees in their 70’s who both are inflexible and rigid would be pretty bad. I am not thrilled with the prospect of Biden but I think Biden at least if he won would be a capable CinC and have a cabinet of qualified men and women. Bernie? I trust him almost as much as I do Trump to have a capable cabinet and team of advisers. Both Bernie and Trump operate under “You agree with my worldview, support me, and that’s how you get jobs”. I can see Bernie giving Nina Turner, Jeff Weaver, David Sirota, and others jobs that they would be unqualified for and that they would fail miserably at since they’re where they are because they are loyal to Bernie not because of any competency or knowledge in an issue. Biden wouldn’t do that IMO.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:57:27pm

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹

That depends on how you write the bill.

Many businesses do close for other holidays, excepting certain businesses required for urgent things. For holidays such as Presidents Day, nearly everything here is closed.

Most things besides garden shops are closed for our one state holiday, Arbor Day.

i think the point is that they would be required to give people enough / reasonable time to vote, even if they were open

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:57:37pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

I’m crashing on your couch in the CR if that’s the race :). Tulsi isn’t going anywhere though.

Heh. Yeah, Tulsi isn’t going anywhere; if she had any sense, she’d just quit right now. Who knows? Maybe she’ll quit soon and try to run with Stein on a Green Party ticket or something.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:57:39pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately and I like him but I think Booker will be done early and the two governors. Can’t see Julian Castro going far either. Ditto Gillibrand. Warren is a wild card imo as is Mayor Pete and Beto. Beto, Bernie, Biden if he runs, & Harris I see lasting the longest with certainty. Klobuchar is also a wild card imo.

I am leaning Warren at this time. She is out there with specific policy ideas while most of the others are just speaking in generalities. But as has been pointed out, it’s still early in the cycle. She may burn out before the debates.

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lawhawk  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:57:58pm

re: #167 KGxvi

It is a good question, and I was thinking about that too… if the idea is to get everyone to the polls, a national holiday wouldn’t work since there are essential workers and retail businesses wouldn’t close because it’d be an economic loss for them.

It seems more about value signaling that it’s important to focus on the mechanics of voting.

I’d rather see them look into a single day primary vote nationwide. Eliminate caucuses. Allow mail-in ballots. Do more to make it easier to vote. Make voting in primaries and local elections all occur on the same day within a state, rather than allowing localities to pick and choose the dates, which makes it even more inconvenient and confusing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:58:06pm

re: #181 jaunte

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The GOP needs a RICO prosecution at this point.

Waiting for Cummings to open up a hearing about the nasty stuff that went down with the Ohio State Wrestling Team!

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:58:50pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹

Could be worse.

Tulsi vs. Trump

oh, so we’re talking fiction again
or would that be sci-fi
or fantasy

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:58:57pm

re: #187 KGxvi

Lifetime rating from HRC: 0

But still… good for him.

He has not apologised for all of his anti-gay legislation and positions, and is thinking about getting back into politics.

No good for him. He’s a Christian and conservative hypocrite.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 1:58:59pm

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

Heh. Yeah, Tulsi isn’t going anywhere; if she had any sense, she’d just quit right now. Who know? Maybe she’ll quit soon and try to run with Stein on a Green Party ticket or something.

Ha I dunno. Thankfully I think Tulsi did decide to resign in Congress so the new Congressperson from Hawaii will be representing Hawaii rather than Assad.

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:00:17pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

He has not apologised for all of his anti-gay legislation and positions, and is thinking about getting back into politics.

No good for him. He’s a Christian and conservative hypocrite.

The “good for him” was mostly sarcastic, which I realize doesn’t come across clearly in this format.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:00:49pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

They do understand that as people drop out, they will tend to ask their delegates to pledge to someone else.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:01:20pm

re: #191 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I am leaning Warren at this time. She is out there with specific policy ideas while most of the others are just speaking in generalities. But as has been pointed out, it’s still early in the cycle. She may burn out before the debates.

I’m backing Warren and she may just gain traction in Iowa that could let her overcome Bernie in New Hampshire.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:01:43pm

re: #198 Belafon

They do understand that as people drop out, they will tend to ask their delegates to pledge to someone else.

Narrator’s Voice: They understand nothing.

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Jay C  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:02:07pm

re: #194 Man, DangerMan

re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹

Could be worse.

Tulsi vs. Trump

oh, so we’re talking fiction again
or would that be sci-fi
or fantasy

More like “horror”…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:03:15pm

re: #191 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I am leaning Warren at this time. She is out there with specific policy ideas while most of the others are just speaking in generalities. But as has been pointed out, it’s still early in the cycle. She may burn out before the debates.

I have really warmed on Warren since I’m definitely seeing that she’s got a plan. I just worry that she may an easy lightening rod for the GOP to run against. I’d easily take her over Bernie though.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:04:12pm

re: #199 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m backing Warren and she may just gain traction in Iowa that could let her overcome Bernie in New Hampshire.

I would love it Joe if Warren ended up as the Progressive type favorite rather than Bernie. Warren unlike Sanders is a do-er. I pointed out to my brother who likes Bernie that Elizabeth has actually accomplished a lot more than Bernie has despite being in Congress 22 years less.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:06:01pm

re: #186 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well I wonder what Franky Graham Cracker gonna say bout that!

He’s a former Republican now. Doesn’t count.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:07:23pm

re: #204 Belafon

He’s a former Republican now. Doesn’t count.

I think it’s just former GOP Congressman. I don’t think he left the GOP. Can’t say I’m shocked by this though. There were rumors about him while he was in Congress. I don’t care what anyone does in their private life but I’m sure there are plenty of clips of him opposing LGBT rights vocally as a member of Congress and that’s not okay.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:08:20pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:08:53pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

I think it’s just former GOP Congressman. I don’t think he left the GOP. Can’t say I’m shocked by this though. There were rumors about him while he was in Congress. I don’t care what anyone does in their private life but I’m sure there are plenty of clips of him opposing LGBT rights vocally as a member of Congress and that’s not okay.

In the religious people’s eyes, he’s not in Congress, therefore they don’t have to keep him as one of their own. Hence, not a “Republican.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:09:16pm

re: #207 Belafon

In the religious people’s eyes, he’s not in Congress, therefore they don’t have to keep him as one of their own. Hence, not a “Republican.”

Ahhh my bad. Sorry I thought you were implying he had left the GOP.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:12:12pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn it. I missed it

It was a good launch. Just wish these other companies would copy Space X in having live video through the entire process.

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KGxvi  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:20:35pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

My only concern is Warren is her age. She’ll be 71 on inauguration day 2021. That will make her the oldest person ever to become president.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:21:47pm

re: #210 KGxvi

My only concern is Warren is her age. She’ll be 71 on inauguration day 2021. That will make her the oldest person ever to become president.

There’s that too. I do worry about her age less than Bernie and Biden since she’s younger.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:23:06pm

re: #199 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m backing Warren and she may just gain traction in Iowa that could let her overcome Bernie in New Hampshire.

We’ll see. The thing I worry about is that IF a woman wins the primaries, the MSM will treat her as they did HRC and ignore her in favor of giving time to an empty podium.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:23:53pm

re: #212 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

We’ll see. The thing I worry about is that IF a woman wins the primaries, the MSM will treat her as they did HRC and ignore her in favor of giving time to an empty podium.

She’s already I think to some extent gotten the HRC treatment.

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ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:28:57pm

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹

Stand by for a lie-fest.

[Embedded content]

Anyone remember all the bitching about Comey going out of his normal area and holding the press conference to say there would be no charges in regards to Hillary’s email but she was a very bad person because she let three or so emails slip through that were not really all that classified?

And then he comes out with his October surprise letter that says they might have to do more investigatin’ and stuff.

And now Barr is going out of the normal range of an AG and putting on a display of his own making under his own power to most likely excuse Trump while saving his own butt for how he is handling this.

As the commercial said: This is not how any of this is done!

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sagehen  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:29:34pm

re: #176 KGxvi

I would fully expect a “legit” third party challenge if it looks like that will be the general election. I would also probably be very sympathetic to whomever leads that third party challenge.

Unless it’s Mr Starbucks. I can’t imagine feeling any sympathy to him.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 17, 2019 • 2:51:37pm

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Seen on trail at High Desert Museum near Bend, OR
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ObserverArt  Apr 17, 2019 • 3:13:31pm

re: #181 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The GOP needs a RICO prosecution at this point.

Jordan has a lot of older folks in many parts of his district in Ohio. I’m sure they are not going to be too happy with Gymmy over this one, everyone is hit by high prescription prices.

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Old Liberal  Apr 17, 2019 • 4:40:18pm

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is not religion, this is massive delusional idiocy masquerading as a belief system.

They are terribly threatened by a churchgoing openly gay person.

It’s religion. Part of religion


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