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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2019 • 7:47:38pm

C’mon, man. People need to learn how to spell. Both sides of the aisle do this, it seems.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 18, 2019 • 7:50:01pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2019 • 7:54:25pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

C’mon, man. People need to learn how to spell. Both sides of the aisle do this, it seems.

‘In peach’ is the pits.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 18, 2019 • 7:54:51pm

re: #3 wrenchwench

‘In peach’ is the pits.

*WHACK!*

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2019 • 7:55:39pm

Yesterday, Joker from the video game “Persona 5” was added to the Smash Bros video game on the switch. With this one, though, they didn’t just add a character. They added a level to represent the game, that changes colors and music to represent the other Persona games. They added a level builder. Joker’s moves and attacks are drawn from the game. They added other characters from Persona 5 as support. When he wins, the screens look like they’re from Persona 5 and not Smash.

My youngest is so excited.

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gwangung  Apr 18, 2019 • 7:59:47pm

re: #2 Patricia Kayden

Drip. Drip. Drip. Let the information out. Investigate the hell out of this administration.

A successful endgame for impeachment is not necessarily just conviction. If the Senate lets Trump off, but 73% of the American public is convinced by the evidence Trump is guilty as hell, there’ll be an enraged populace that’ll sweep the Republicans out of office.

But if you go at the wanna be king, you best not miss. You need that angry populace. And you get it by keeping on the pressure and letting the fool make an idiot of himself with his “defenses.”

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2019 • 7:59:57pm

Weird. I was invited today to appear on a live TV show on CGTN America.

Uh.

CGTN America has registered as a foreign agent under the Foreign Agent Registration Act on February 1, 2019, amid growing concerns from the United States Department of Justice an “expanding influence campaign being waged by Beijing through the global arms of state media outlets”.[9] The Guardian’s Louisa Lim and Julia Bergin wrote that while the China “Communist Party has always maintained a tight grip over domestic media, their strategy has shifted in recent years to spread that control globally”, by “exerting their influence on media abroad, through a multifaceted approach that includes offering generous salary packages to recruit talented journalists away from local media in Africa, Latin America, and elsewhere; buying advertising supplements in mainstream foreign publications; buying foreign media companies outright; and making deals with local broadcasters in Africa and elsewhere to spread their content in local markets”. During President Xi Jinping’s tour of state media outlets in February 2016, he emphasized that they must “speak for the Party,” and, further, that they must expand their influence abroad in order to “tell China’s story to the world.”[10] After registering with the FARA, CGTN America director general Ma Jing and a dozen other staffers were recalled to Beijing.[11]

CGTN initially claimed that it had “editorial independence from any state direction or control”. This was debunked by New York Times reporter Paul Mozur in interviews with “current and former CGTN employees [who] say CCTV editors in Beijing often dictated plans for covering China. American employees sometimes pushed back, they said, and Ms. Ma allowed some flexibility when Beijing’s orders didn’t specifically forbid or dictate content. But three people interviewed said they had little choice but to air propaganda clips when Beijing said so”.[12][13] CGTN employees were disciplined when a news report mentioned Falun Gong, the religious group labeled as a cult and banned by the PRC. The flag of Taiwan, the self-governing island that is claimed by PRC, are banned from broadcasts. In November 2018, amid growing international criticism of China’s imprisonment of hundreds of thousands of Muslim Uighurs in indoctrination camp programs designed to discourage Islam, CGNT America aired a piece portraying the camps as successful vocational training and antiterrorism centers and Uighurs as grateful. In addition, CGTN America has broadcast “exclusive” coerced confessions of people accused of a wide variety of crimes in China, most notably the example of a Briton, Peter Humphrey.

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2020 Blue Wisconsin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:02:31pm

It really wouldn’t surprise me if sometime in the next few days to a week Trump does some really horrible thing like actually following through with closing the southern border or taking the “Little Rocket Man” anti-diplomacy against N. Korea to the next level (using their recent military announcements as provocation) to fire up/distract his base and try to retake control of the news cycle.

And the media will be obligingly stupid enough to drop the bone and chase the squirrel.

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:02:31pm

Kellyanne’s hubby has had enough.

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freetoken  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:04:38pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

C’mon, man. People need to learn how to spell. Both sides of the aisle do this, it seems.

Spelling is so 19th century.

We’re in the age of Twitter. Spelin duznt mattur.

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:05:21pm

re: #10 freetoken

Spelling is so 19th century.

We’re in the age of Twitter. Spelin duznt mattur.

They didn’t really do all that much spelling in the 19th century.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:05:47pm

re: #9 makeitstop

Kellyanne’s hubby has had enough.

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If George really has had enough he’d be divorcing KKKellyanne.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:06:20pm

re: #8 2020 Blue Wisconsin

It really wouldn’t surprise me if sometime in the next few days to a week Trump does some really horrible thing like actually following through with closing the southern border or taking the “Little Rocket Man” anti-diplomacy against N. Korea to the next level (using their recent military announcements as provocation) to fire up/distract his base and try to retake control of the news cycle.

And the media will be obligingly stupid enough to drop the bone and chase the squirrel.

Or Venezuela, or Turkey, or Iran …

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:08:02pm

re: #10 freetoken

Spelin duznt mattur.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:08:35pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:10:52pm

Glenn is just following Master Putin’s orders.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:14:04pm

Woke Joe Walsh will never not be weird to me.

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:14:29pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

Glenn is just following Master Putin’s orders.

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Two of the most punchable faces in the Western hemisphere, right there.

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freetoken  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:14:46pm

re: #11 Belafon

They didn’t really do all that much spelling in the 19th century.

American’s appear to have worried about it more than Brits.

Webster’s Dictionary is probably the best emblem of this movement in America. I’ve always wondered if the inferiority complex of Americans stem from the fact that many 18th century colonials and post Rev. War immigrants were in fact illiterate, and that was a giant source of shame that got propagated and caused such things as an emphasis on proper spelling in schools.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:15:03pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:15:09pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

Woke Joe Walsh will never not be weird to me.

Yeah, that’s more than a bit fucked up. I think the only thing weirder would be Woke Glenn Greenwald.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:17:09pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

sometimes spelling is over rated

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:17:57pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

Woke Joe Walsh will never not be weird to me.

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Yeah it’s weird af.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:18:57pm

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, that’s more than a bit fucked up. I think the only thing weirder would be Woke Glenn Greenwald.

woke Mitch McConnell.
(LGF knows the correct McConnell spelling)

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:19:00pm

I won a spelling bee in the 7th grade. I actually was a wee bit insulted by the word I spelled that won it for me, ‘rhythm.’

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:19:39pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

I won a spelling bee in the 7th grade. I actually was a wee bit insulted by the word I spelled that won it for me, ‘rhythm.’

Spelling bee was the one I never won. I won 4 state championships for my high school, but never won the spelling bee. I may or may not still be salty about that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:19:58pm

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, that’s more than a bit fucked up. I think the only thing weirder would be Woke Glenn Greenwald.

That won’t happen. Even after Bolsonaro expels him from Brazil and he flees to Moscow.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:20:23pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon 🌹

That won’t happen. Even after Bolsonaro expels him from Brazil and he flees to Moscow.

Exactly my point. It’s literally the most bizarre thing I could ever imagine.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:21:56pm

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, that’s more than a bit fucked up. I think the only thing weirder would be Woke Glenn Greenwald.

You guys don’t believe in redemption? I do. That’s just me. I’ve learned bigly that I need watch what they do more than what they say. I see nothing recently from Child Support Joe That doesn’t lead me to believe he’s not sincere.

We need make good where we can today. It’s a new ballgame of tribes. And we need to learn to live in this world now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:22:42pm

re: #29 Dave In Austin

You guys don’t believe in redemption? I do. That’s just me. I’ve learned bigly that I need watch what they do more than what they say. I see nothing recently from Child Support Joe That doesn’t lead me to believe he’s not sincere.

We need make good where we can today. It’s a new ballgame of tribes. And we need to learn to live in this world now.

Believe in redemption? I absolutely do. You know my backstory. If you don’t, there’s a front-page article from a couple of years back about it. It’s just a massive mental shift that takes some time to get used to, that’s all.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:23:47pm

re: #18 makeitstop

Two of the most punchable faces in the Western hemisphere, right there.

If you meshed them would the result look like Ted Cruz?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:24:00pm

re: #31 Feline Fearless Leader

If you meshed them would the result look like Ted Cruz?

Absolutely this.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:25:05pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon 🌹

That won’t happen. Even after Bolsonaro expels him from Brazil and he flees to Moscow.

Sometimes “woken” is a misnomer. Can Walsh be such a fool that he is actually woken? As in, Walsh is a fool so could be woken. Greenwald is not a fool, just a whore, and not woken.
And, Walsh could likely be asleepin’ agin’.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:26:01pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spelling bee was the one I never won. I won 4 state championships for my high school, but never won the spelling bee. I may or may not still be salty about that.

This was in high school: Knowledge Bowl finalist three years in a row, top third state champion slalom and GS skier my junior and senior year, 3A state champion soccer team my senior year (I was a full back, usually left, sometimes right), first chair bassist in Jazz Band, and all that time I smoked a fair amount of cannabis behind the scenes. Life is weird.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:28:57pm

re: #30 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Not an attack, I love you guys. There’s lots of people we may not have believed in in the past. But now, especially now, they are eyes white open and we should encourage that. I refuse to live dwelling in the past or to to live In roiling fear. So it’s all forward for me. And if a Republican (cap R) sees that as well, the more power to him. He/She is my bro/sis and my Fellow American. WE GO FORWARD!

I’m fucking Gumby damn it!!

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:30:17pm
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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:30:24pm

re: #18 makeitstop

Two of the most punchable faces in the Western hemisphere, right there.

Does no one have an ex-spouse, a bad business partner, or a ‘texting while driving one car ahead’ driver?

I am just saying, I have along list.
Actually, I don’t want to punch many. McConnell, yes. (all the alt-righters, yes). Many GOPers; fuck yes.

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:31:38pm

re: #37 Ming5000

‘texting while driving one car ahead’ driver?

The only time I use my horn, and I really enjoy seeing their heads snap up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:32:20pm

re: #31 Feline Fearless Leader

If you meshed them would the result look like Ted Cruz?

Brundlefascist.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:32:57pm

re: #35 Dave In Austin

Sorry guy. On the phone tonite. Had epidurals in the lower back this afternoon. So things are a little off kilter. As are my typing thumbs.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:33:52pm

I’ve read that Walsh was more moderate before he became a TP type so maybe this is him or maybe he’s a staunch conservative who is genuinely repulsed by Trump. I understand why we don’t trust the Never Trumpers but some of them have grown on me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:35:14pm

What pisses me off about Greenwald is how he attacks anyone who doesn’t see things his way and his double standards.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:35:49pm

Ere: #38 jaunte

The only time I use my horn, and I really enjoy seeing their heads snap up.

Hahaha,,,,, true.. I felt guilty because of the guileless look on their faces. So, I refrained from beeping.
My bad, fuck their disengaged existence.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:36:29pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

All’s I really ask is a little common sense.

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piratedan  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:36:51pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

when actions confirm words, then I’ll take it seriously, but to have anyone who was previously inside the bubble speaking truths cannot be a bad thing. It’s cool to be wary, but tbh, we need sane Conservatives to find and use their voices and speak out against what’s wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:36:59pm

If the US can side with Stalin to defeat Hitler. I can make common cause to defeat Trump. That said, I do wish more of the anti Trump conservatives could see that their ideology is the problem as much as Trump himself.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:37:53pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

What pisses me off about Greenwald is how he attacks anyone who doesn’t see things his way and his double standards.

Somewhere, sometime, I think Glen will get paid back.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:38:09pm

re: #45 piratedan

when actions confirm words, then I’ll take it seriously, but to have anyone who was previously inside the bubble speaking truths cannot be a bad thing. It’s cool to be wary, but tbh, we need sane Conservatives to find and use their voices and speak out against what’s wrong.

Yeah I hear ya. That said I think Conway put his money where his mouth is by demanding Trump’s impeachment.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:39:13pm

re: #40 Dave In Austin

Sorry guy. On the phone tonite. Had epidurals in the lower back this afternoon. So things are a little off kilter.

I assume you are in pain and … sorry. Feel better soon

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:39:41pm

As Jewish tradition, participants in Passover Seders ask the question: “Why is this night different from all other nights?”

This year, the answer for at least 1,500 people will be: Because it’s their first Seder ever.

A slate of prominent Jewish organizations are drumming up first-time attendance at Seders across the country — based on the belief that acquainting new people with the beloved Jewish Seder ritual can help reduce anti-Semitism.

After all, who doesn’t enjoy a Seder?

The program is the brainchild of Marnie Fienberg, a resident of Northern Virginia whose mother-in-law, Joyce Fienberg, 75, was one of 11 worshipers killed at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue in October, when a gunman rampaged the synagogue in an anti-Semitic attack. Devastated, Fienberg cast about after the attack for ideas. What could she do to reduce bias against Jews, which only seems to be increasing in the United States today, based on hate crime statistics?

She hit upon an answer in her memories of Joyce: the Seder.

washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:39:42pm

re: #44 Dave In Austin

All’s I really ask is a little common sense.

It’s tough. I know an anti Trump conservative but I don’t think he realizes why Trump is awful. He just bought the initial Ben Shapiro bs about how Trump is really a leftist since he’s different than a conventional conservative.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:39:59pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon 🌹

That won’t happen. Even after Bolsonaro expels him from Brazil and he flees to Moscow.

Still wondering about Bolsonaro. He loves him some Trump but I am not sure where he is relative to the Putin harem. He may be a totally independent fascist rather than another Putin fan-boy, in which case GG could find himself in a world of shit before he realizes it.

There is this from January, though:
Brazil’s Bolsonaro sees threat in Russia, considers hosting U.S. base

Brazil is open to hosting a U.S. military base to counter Russian influence in the region, the South American country’s new far-right president said.

Jair Bolsonaro, who took office on Tuesday, is a fan of U.S. President Donald Trump and a fierce critic of Venezuela’s socialist President Nicolas Maduro.

In the interview to the SBT network Thursday night, Bolsonaro said he is worried about Russia’s closeness with Venezuela.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:41:46pm

Does Glenn read his own website?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:42:04pm

re: #49 Ming5000

I assume you are in pain and … sorry. Feel better soon

No, actually it was an ancillary procedure on S1. My entire lumbar is comprised. This and some oral steroids keep me upright and fishing.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:42:05pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

re: #47 Dave In Austin

Somewhere, sometime, I think Glen will get paid back.

re: #42 HappyWarrior

What pisses me off about Greenwald is how he attacks anyone who doesn’t see things his way and his double standards.

Aaron Shock comes to mind. How do people at risk; under the boot of those REALLY in power, suck up to power and also step on the necks of their brothers ans sisters?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:42:08pm

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Still wondering about Bolsonaro. He loves him some Trump but I am not sure where he is relative to the Putin harem. He may be a totally independent fascist rather than another Putin fan-boy, in which case GG could find himself in a world of shit before he realizes it.

There is this from January, though:
Brazil’s Bolsonaro sees threat in Russia, considers hosting U.S. base

Brazil is a growing economic power. No doubt Bolsonaro doesn’t want Putin mucking around that. I’d liken him as a Franco to Putin as Hitler and Trump as Mussolini.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:43:01pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

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Does Glenn read his own website?

The Intercept loves playing the left. The sooner lefties realize it, the better off we’ll be.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:43:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:44:29pm

re: #55 Ming5000

Aaron Shock comes to mind. How do people at risk; under the boot of those REALLY in power, suck up to power and also step on the necks of their brothers ans sisters?

I have no idea. TBH I see Greenwald as a misanthrope. I never see the man happy.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:44:39pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I read hem not. Everything I know about Glen Greenwald I learned on LGF….. And maybe some twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:47:34pm

re: #60 Dave In Austin

I read hem not. Everything I know about Glen Greenwald I learned on LGF….. And maybe some twitter.

I know that he wrote an interesting policy paper on Portugal’s decriminalizing of drugs which to be fair to him was a good read but his attacks on the left establishment for policies he once supported if not even stronger and his cynical push of Snowden as a hero showed me he was full of bs. Plus he’s an asshole. I don’t like assholes.

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:48:05pm

There are a lot of these videos going around, but this one is actually going to show up on your teevee. Hopefully it’ll get some fence sitters to put a little thought into what’s going on.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:50:14pm

re: #44 Dave In Austin

All’s I really ask is a little common sense.

I am sorry.
The “common sense solutions” of the tea baggers and still Boehner ring in my ears.
No offense, but common sense sometimes sounds like MAGA to me.

Because our common sense sense does not align with, apparently economically distressed, MAGAts.
I rely on economics, sociology, morality (not necessarily Christ based), heart, and cuckish behavior. (and Libtardism)

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:51:06pm
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plansbandc  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:51:38pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:52:54pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

Woke Joe Walsh will never not be weird to me.

Joe Walsh is not “woke” any more than George Conway, Jennifer Rubin, &c.

They are only angry that Trump is making conservatism look bad. They will never admit Trump is conservatism, and they and their party have been building this for decades.

The second Trump is no longer in office, they will be right back to the same schtick.

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piratedan  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:54:08pm

re: #62 makeitstop

great sentiment, but one one hand, we’re talking about a crime that tainted the Office of the Presidency as we know it, rendering all of those involved as self-serving politicians who only sought their own gratification while in office. Something that involved the entire administration in a web of lies and deceit that led to single moment of clarity to reign in a President.

and on the other hand, well, what’s a little light treason and subversion of the American political process as long as our side wins

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:54:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:55:52pm

re: #58 Ace-o-aces

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My boss took notes all the time and encouraged me and the other staff to do so. It would be foolish for a lawyer not to take notes.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:56:39pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I have no idea. TBH I see Greenwald as a misanthrope. I never see the man happy.

That is what I don’t get.I assume he has to be happy with his husband. There must be some spark of light, no?
I cannot relate….
At Trump Christmases, a la Christmas Carol, nobody says, “fuuuuck, we fucked up. I fucked up, but , now we can do good for the greater gooood!”

“”Caaaaato!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:57:55pm

re: #68 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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You don’t have a right to act like Cuba is awful while praising Kim Jong Un. I’m convinced and even though I don’t like the Cuban or Maduro regimes in Havana and Caracas that Trump only hates them because they won’t kiss his ass.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:59:12pm

re: #65 plansbandc

I would call that cat Hobo

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 8:59:33pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

I know that he wrote an interesting policy paper on Portugal’s decriminalizing of drugs which to be fair to him was a good read but his attacks on the left establishment for policies he once supported if not even stronger and his cynical push of Snowden as a hero showed me he was full of bs. Plus he’s an asshole. I don’t like assholes.

From what I know, I am in favor of “Portugal’s decriminalizing of drugs”.

But, I got lot of my opinion from Jor Rogan podcasts, before I got annoyed.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:01:29pm

re: #70 Ming5000

That is what I don’t get.I assume he has to be happy with his husband. There must be some spark of light, no?
I cannot relate….
At Trump Christmases, a la Christmas Carol, nobody says, “fuuuuck, we fucked up. I fucked up, but , now we can do good for the greater gooood!”

“”Caaaaato!”

I dunno. Even married people can be miserable. I guess with some of these guys and gals, I can’t see them having joy. Bush? Yes awful President and yes this doesn’t change his actions but I can see that he loves his family and likes people. He was at a naturalization ceremony and frankly spoke well on why those ceremonies are wonderful. Greenwald just seems miserable. I don’t know why. He lives well enough, is married, and has a legion of people who take him seriously.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:02:39pm

re: #65 plansbandc

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Speaking as a man who cannot grow a beard, and who is disdainful (a sin) of men who can grow such by 10Am the day after a shave, fuck you cat.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:03:16pm

re: #73 Ming5000

From what I know, I am in favor of “Portugal’s decriminalizing of drugs”.

But, I got lot of my opinion from Jor Rogan podcasts, before I got annoyed.

My brothers listen to his podcast. From the little I’ve heard, I think Rogan is a clown and way too nice to people who don’t deserve it and he loves to MBF. I’ve been to Portugal btw. Felt safe and people weren’t any higher in Lisbon and Cascais than they are in DC. I do think legalize now people have to realize it will be a process.

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William Lewis  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:07:20pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

If the US can side with Stalin to defeat Hitler. I can make common cause to defeat Trump. That said, I do wish more of the anti Trump conservatives could see that their ideology is the problem as much as Trump himself.

In WWII the Nazi’s were the most immediate existential threat. Uncle Joe wasn’t really any nicer, but he was more inclined to taking out his paranoia at home and thus could be worked with.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:07:45pm

re: #63 Ming5000

I’m getting old and I grew up in a time when we trusted each other. Eisenhower and Kennedy. I remember a time before Vietnam.
But I get your drift. I think if you hear “common sense” on this forum, you can be assured it’s the good type. [wink emoji]

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:09:17pm

Re Never Trump Republicans - who the fuck cares what they’ll do once Trump is gone?

If they help convince people to get rid of that shitbag in the White House, I say more power to them and we can go back to hating their fucking guts afterwards.

It’s all hands on deck time, and if a few Republicans want to help, great. We can throw them overboard once we take care of the aforementioned shitbag.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:12:24pm

re: #77 William Lewis

In WWII the Nazi’s were the most immediate existential threat. Uncle Joe wasn’t really any nicer, but he was more inclined to taking out his paranoia at home and thus could be worked with.

For the most part yeah. I’m just saying. Common cause can be made. Doesn’t mean I want to call Joe Walsh my buddy or even necessarily that I see him as an ally but I’d rather the post Trump right be filled with men and women who agree that Trump is a con. As I said about McCain last night, he got what it means to be an American.

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Jay C  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:12:57pm

re: #68 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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The “ cheap political points” points (re Cuba policy) I get: I’m just wondering, though: points with WHO? Does the hardcore Exile crowd still have that much political sway in Florida that the Admin thinks that knee-jerk Cuba-bashing is a winning strategy?

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:13:05pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I dunno. Even married people can be miserable. I guess with some of these guys and gals, I can’t see them having joy. Bush? Yes awful President and yes this doesn’t change his actions but I can see that he loves his family and likes people. He was at a naturalization ceremony and frankly spoke well on why those ceremonies are wonderful. Greenwald just seems miserable. I don’t know why. He lives well enough, is married, and has a legion of people who take him seriously.

Good points.
I HOPE Greenwald is happy….. but don’t know.
Climate deniers, flat Earthers…. rabid evangelicals… anti-vaxers…. at home, are they happy? When partisans like Greenwald have who kids say, you are killing me in the future, or you are killing me NOW…. are they happy in their politics?
You are right, I hope. Greenwald must not be happy.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:14:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:14:44pm

re: #79 makeitstop

Re Never Trump Republicans - who the fuck cares what they’ll do once Trump is gone?

If they help convince people to get rid of that shitbag in the White House, I say more power to them and we can go back to hating their fucking guts afterwards.

It’s all hands on deck time, and if a few Republicans want to help, great. We can throw them overboard once we take care of the aforementioned shitbag.

We’re going to have a post Trump right. I’d rather it have men and women like George Conway, Joe Walsh, Jen Rubin than Kellyanne, Matt Gaetz, & Marc Theissen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:15:21pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

I won a spelling bee in the 7th grade. I actually was a wee bit insulted by the word I spelled that won it for me, ‘rhythm.’

That’s because vowels are perpetrated as part of the patriarchy. This is science fact. “Rhythm” has no vowels. Your spelling bee apparently knew you supported women’s rights even then. /s

Uncle Bonsai spoke about this and wrote a song about it.

(4:23, caution for coarse language)

Women With a “Y” (Womyn)

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William Lewis  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:15:52pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

For the most part yeah. I’m just saying. Common cause can be made. Doesn’t mean I want to call Joe Walsh my buddy or even necessarily that I see him as an ally but I’d rather the post Trump right be filled with men and women who agree that Trump is a con. As I said about McCain last night, he got what it means to be an American.

Of course. As I’m always saying, the enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. no more, no less. Keeping that in mind is the critical part.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:17:33pm

re: #78 Dave In Austin

I’m getting old and I grew up in a time when we trusted each other. Eisenhower and Kennedy. I remember a time before Vietnam.
But I get your drift. I think if you hear “common sense” on this forum, you can be assured it’s the good type. [wink emoji]

Cripes, I know. Sorry… for sure I get your drift.

I think another thing I hate Republicans for is the denigration of the term “common sense”.

The right wing also made me leary of seeing the flag flown from cars… Or, worn on lapels. Aargh.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:17:39pm

re: #82 Ming5000

Good points.
I HOPE Greenwald is happy….. but don’t know.
Climate deniers, flat Earthers…. rabid evangelicals… anti-vaxers…. at home, are they happy? When partisans like Greenwald have who kids say, you are killing me in the future, or you are killing me NOW…. are they happy in their politics?
You are right, I hope. Greenwald must not be happy.

I tell you why I hate Ben Shapiro so much. The man is utterly without joy in his life. He spent the day of his daughter’s birth trashing Obama and is just an overall nasty person. There are other conservative people who yeah I disagree like hell with them can see a person. I could easily see myself talking baseball with George Will or having a laugh with the late President Bush.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:19:30pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

We’re going to have a post Trump right. I’d rather it have men and women like George Conway, Joe Walsh, Jen Rubin than Kellyanne, Matt Gaetz, & Marc Theissen.

Conway, Rubin, and Walsh will go right back to supporting the same people as Theissen. Rubin is no fan of Rep. Gaetz, but she supports the party which supports him. She doesn’t like how Gaetz says things, not what Gaetz says.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:22:21pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon 🌹

That won’t happen. Even after Bolsonaro expels him from Brazil and he flees to Moscow.

He can be roomies with Edward Snowden.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:23:07pm

re: #29 Dave In Austin

You guys don’t believe in redemption? I do. That’s just me. I’ve learned bigly that I need watch what they do more than what they say. I see nothing recently from Child Support Joe That doesn’t lead me to believe he’s not sincere.

We need make good where we can today. It’s a new ballgame of tribes. And we need to learn to live in this world now.

Sure I do. He can renounce the Republican Party and work against it.

Redemption includes actions.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:23:08pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I tell you why I hate Ben Shapiro so much. The man is utterly without joy in his life. He spent the day of his daughter’s birth trashing Obama and is just an overall nasty person. There are other conservative people who yeah I disagree like hell with them can see a person. I could easily see myself talking baseball with George Will or having a laugh with the late President Bush.

Agreed.
Thinking of the opposite… if I was a right ringer, who would I not enjoy talking baseball with?
To be fair, I could not be in those right wing shoes. Also , I couldn’t talk baseball.
But, any lefty I could enjoy for most conversations. I feel Bernie would be a drag…
Does Stein count as lefty? She is off my list. Tulsi is off my list too.

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:23:53pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

We’re going to have a post Trump right. I’d rather it have men and women like George Conway, Joe Walsh, Jen Rubin than Kellyanne, Matt Gaetz, & Marc Theissen.

Fucking A. And I get a little annoyed when a clear eyed take on how bad Trump really is gets dismissed out of hand because it happens to be a republican saying it.

I’m not saying anyone has to fall in love with Bill Kristol or Joe Walsh. But if they want to take a turn at swinging the hammer, then fucking let them. They stand a better chance of changing a moderate republican’s mind than Rachel Maddow or Laurence O’Donnell do.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:25:44pm

re: #87 Ming5000

Something we don’t talk about is how WE help fix the divide.
Friends, if this doesn’t happen or is we don’t try as hard as we can to do this, then this underlying feudalism and tribalism will fester. And it is a weeping boil on the ass of America.
We become no better then them. We need more at the middle then at both ends if we are to recover.
That’s right Doc….. Dave’s a Moderate.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:26:37pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

Conway, Rubin, and Walsh will go right back to supporting the same people as Theissen. Rubin is no fan of Rep. Gaetz, but she supports the party which supports him. She doesn’t like how Gaetz says things, not what Gaetz says.

Rubin has actually been pretty critical of the party as a whole under Trump. Who knows what they will do, you don’t know any more then I do what they will do. I’m just saying that a post Trump right is going to exist in our country and I’d rather the people who lead it not be people right now who are still carrying water for Trump. Conservative ideology sucks but there will always be conservatives so imo I’d rather our leading conservatives not be people who have blindly defended Trump. I’m not inviting them to my party or ideology and I’m not even sure I’d be cordial to Walsh given the crap he said about Obama but we have to prepare for a post Trump right and I hope that the opponents of Trump are stronger than the supporters because otherwise we’re going to deal with this crap again.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:29:26pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

I wouldn’t ask him to go that far. I don’t think that’s fair.
If Joe had to vote for Pres. tomorrow. I’m confident that he would not vote for The dictator.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:29:46pm

goodnight all.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:30:28pm

re: #92 Ming5000

Agreed.
Thinking of the opposite… if I was a right ringer, who would I not enjoy talking baseball with?
To be fair, I could not be in those right wing shoes. Also , I couldn’t talk baseball.
But, any lefty I could enjoy for most conversations. I feel Bernie would be a drag…
Does Stein count as lefty? She is off my list. Tulsi is off my list too.

Ha I’m a huge baseball fan. Bernie would be a drag. I like people who can take the politics off at times. I have a casual friend. Nice enough guy but his entire identity is his politics. I can’t live that way.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:32:16pm

re: #97 Ming5000

goodnight all.

GNite Friend

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:32:58pm

Colbert….
WTF?

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:35:01pm

re: #81 Jay C

The “ cheap political points” points (re Cuba policy) I get: I’m just wondering, though: points with WHO? Does the hardcore Exile crowd still have that much political sway in Florida that the Admin thinks that knee-jerk Cuba-bashing is a winning strategy?

His base are pretty much built on nativism and performative cruelty.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:35:48pm

re: #81 Jay C

The “ cheap political points” points (re Cuba policy) I get: I’m just wondering, though: points with WHO? Does the hardcore Exile crowd still have that much political sway in Florida that the Admin thinks that knee-jerk Cuba-bashing is a winning strategy?

I think it’s more about reversing a policy that the ni*CLANG in the White House enacted.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:40:34pm

re: #93 makeitstop

Fucking A. And I get a little annoyed when a clear eyed take on how bad Trump really is gets dismissed out of hand because it happens to be a republican saying it.

I’m not saying anyone has to fall in love with Bill Kristol or Joe Walsh. But if they want to take a turn at swinging the hammer, then fucking let them. They stand a better chance of changing a moderate republican’s mind than Rachel Maddow or Laurence O’Donnell do.

I mean. I get the wariness because Trump didn’t come out of nowhere and Kristol and Walsh have some pretty repulsive views independent of Trump and you can definitely blame the GOP apparatus whether in office or print media for why he was viable but I’m honestly relieved when a conservative goes after Trump using similar language I would because it assures me my disgust isn’t partisan. Doesn’t mean I like that person but it to me anyhow shows that person has some independent thought and maybe even some personal decency. And you know what, maybe just maybe it will teach them their ideology isn’t as great as they thought it was. I definitely credit Bernie for showing me how far lefties can be as dismissive of concerns to women, poc, & immigrants.

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retired cynic  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:42:55pm

A quick comment before I head for bed: we need something cool on this night after this day.

Photo and caption: David Edgar. I took this photo of an adolescent humpback whale in the South Pacific, several miles off the coast of Tongatapu, Tonga. I captured this as a split-shot with half my dome port submerged, and the other above the surface. This playful whale came right up to me and looked directly into my eyes as the tip of his rostrum glistened in the afternoon sun. Looking closely, you can see Loni, our expert skipper, lining up a surface shot of this incredible encounter from the roof of our dive boat.

thisiscolossal.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 9:43:22pm

re: #96 Dave In Austin

I wouldn’t ask him to go that far. I don’t think that’s fair.
If Joe had to vote for Pres. tomorrow. I’m confident that he would not vote for The dictator.

I think it’s entirely fair. He would pull the lever for (R) Beelzebub before any Democrat.

Walsh was a GOPTP Congressman. He is only upset at Trump’s tone, not Trump’s policies.

“So what’s interesting is, Trump and I really married on a number of these populist issues: secure the goddamn border, get illegals out of this country, blow up sanctuary cities. And Islam has a problem—let’s not be Europe,” he says. “These issues of populist security resonate—stuff I’ve been talking about for a long time—I think more than anything with Trump’s voters. When Donald Trump said, you know what, you’re not a country if you don’t have borders—duh. Such an obvious thing. That got him elected. So I think it’s those issues that the average American felt like, ‘I got a government that’s more concerned about people in this country illegally than me; we’re letting Muslims into this country who aren’t assimilating. What the f—?’”

Is Joe Walsh Really ‘Woke’? (Goes to that bastion of liberal though, Bill Kristol’s Weekly Standard)

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:00:03pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

Then we can agree disagree on this one. I won’t make those demands because reasons. And I refuse to argue the point.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:02:17pm

re: #106 Dave In Austin

Then we can agree disagree on this one. I won’t make those demands because reasons. And I refuse to argue the point.

Fair enough, though a read of the Weekly Standard article is worthwhile on Mr. Walsh’s thinking.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:02:52pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

Thank you

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:15:05pm

97 years old.

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Teukka  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:18:53pm

Re: Rod Rosenstein’s manners during the Barr “presser”… The face and posture looks like a guy who sees the calamity rolling towards him, but can’t do shit to stop or even mitigate it.

Re: Notre Dame

Re: Good Friday morning music
Currently listening to this (mood music):

Intro

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:23:10pm

Right up there with the Kim Jong Un romper but quite a bit more expensive.

Nordstrom is Selling Pairs of Dirty Jeans for $425

You just can’t make this stuff up, folks. High end retailer Nordstrom is making headlines for one of their newest products, which has many of us rolling our eyes.

In recent weeks, the store began selling the Barracuda Straight Leg Jeans. But these are no regular pair of pants. They are intentionally distressed and have “a crackled, caked-on muddy coating.”
The arguable fashion statement drew ire from Dirty Jobs star Mike Rowe, who wears pants that are very similar to these. But they actually got dirty from enduring manual labor.

“The Barracuda Straight Leg Jeans aren’t pants,” Rowe argued on Facebook. “They’re not even fashion. They’re a costume for wealthy people who see work as ironic — not iconic.”

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:25:27pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:29:10pm


Of course the car is full of 5.7mm holes now but it was worth it to teach that damned varmint a lesson.
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:34:34pm

NY Times did you really have to publish an opinion piece that demonstrates such blind idiocy or dishonesty as “Barr is right about everything. Admit you were wrong.”

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Teukka  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:38:03pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 18, 2019 • 10:39:29pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

I had nothing to do with this! //

I would decline the invitation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:02:09pm

re: #110 Teukka

Re: Rod Rosenstein’s manners during the Barr “presser”… The face and posture looks like a guy who sees the calamity rolling towards him, but can’t do shit to stop or even mitigate it.

Re: Notre Dame

[QAnon derp]

Depends on your point of view who burned the church I guess. (The mayor of Paris said the fire is accidental, and getting on top of Notre Dame without authorisation would be tough.)

If you peruse the Christian video channels on YouTube, a whole bunch of them are claiming it was (an) atheist(s) who burnt the church, and atheists around the world are cheering the fire (regardless of the Christian franchise the channel represents).

I’ve been to Notre Dame (and other important cathedrals in Europe). I think it’s a tragedy of immense proportion. I can’t think of any atheist who would cheer the burning of any building, including a church.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:06:09pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:29:50pm
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freetoken  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:30:12pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:40:13pm

Northern Ireland border is acting up again.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:43:15pm

re: #118 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Secrecy, Self-Dealing, and Greed at the NRA

Massive grift at the NRA. Must be all the liberals opposed to the NRA. /s

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sagehen  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:47:29pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

I think it’s entirely fair. He would pull the lever for (R) Beelzebub before any Democrat.

Walsh was a GOPTP Congressman. He is only upset at Trump’s tone, not Trump’s policies.

Is Joe Walsh Really ‘Woke’? (Goes to that bastion of liberal though, Bill Kristol’s Weekly Standard)

There’s a far-right faction of fascists, white supremacists, theocrats, and other kinds of authoritarians, who like to call themselves Conservative (capital C, noun). They had to redefine the word to adopt that branding.

Then there’s a diminishing number of people who are actually conservative (small C, adjective). These conservatives…. they really truly believe in Rule of Law and Personal Responsibility as principles, not just slogans for the IOKIYAR’s to selectively pretend to care about. For them, no amount of preferred judges and desirable tax rates will justify the lies and corruption and emoluments and other criminality. These are the Never-Trumpers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:53:37pm

re: #119 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I wonder if I fall in that 6% who are very thin because they are rarely hungry.

I pretty much only eat when someone puts food in front of me; when my wife asks if I’m hungry I almost always say “no.”

She just told me when I read that Times article to her that she has learned to ignore me when I say I’m not hungry.

Ever since we married over eleven years ago, she’s said one of her missions is to “fatten me up.” So far she’s failed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:56:18pm

re: #123 sagehen

Being concerned about personal responsibility or the rule of law is not a conservative principle. Liberals also hold those positions.

The idea that “small c” conservatives are really the ones concerned with the rule of law and personal responsibility was marketing, not conservatism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:58:40pm

My eyes!

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 18, 2019 • 11:59:15pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

I’m the same way. I tried to bulk up in high school with weight lifting, got all the way up to 124 lbs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:02:16am

re: #127 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I’m the same way. I tried to bulk up in high school with weight lifting, got all the way up to 124 lbs.

The heaviest I ever got was when I was in the Navy, when I reached 130#. I am back to the 115# I was before I went in.

That’s also my mother’s weight. I take after her and my sister takes after my father (shorter and heavier).

Since I’m coming up on the big fifty-nine next month, I presume I’m not going to change much in weight. That won’t stop my wife from trying though.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:13:44am

My Uverse download speed jumped from 24 mb/s to 30 mb/s this week, for no reason. Nice.

The Phone Company and the President’s Analyst

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sagehen  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:21:26am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

Being concerned about personal responsibility or the rule of law is not a conservative principle. Liberals also hold those positions.

The idea that “small c” conservatives are really the ones concerned with the rule of law and personal responsibility was marketing, not conservatism.

Liberals don’t have a monopoly on these principles; nor are we unanimous in our adherence to them (e.g., BernieBros and Jill Shills).

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:23:03am

re: #129 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

My Uverse download speed jumped from 24 mb/s to 30 mb/s this week, for no reason. Nice.

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I just tried the Internet Speed Test site.

My download speed is 9.15 Mb/s; my upload speed is 760 kb/s.

speedtest.net (results of the test)

It took some time to work up to those speeds. I’m still stuck with the problem of having an IP hundreds of miles away.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:26:30am

re: #130 sagehen

Liberals don’t have a monopoly on these principles; nor are we unanimous in our adherence to them (e.g., BernieBros and Jill Shills).

I agree.

Those are desirable principles in any politician. They’re just sold as conservative principles.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:35:52am

Did this get posted?

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:37:05am

re: #133 Teukka

Did this get posted?

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don’t think so.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:51:01am

re: #133 Teukka

Did this get posted?

I have not seen it. I’m over at Daily Beast reading it now.

Considering that Wikileaks moved its servers to an IP in central Moscow many years ago, I am not surprised that Russian intelligence would use Wikileaks to forward their agenda.

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:00:58am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

My eyes!

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Brain Bleach Ultra - for those troubling times when Johnston’s Eye Bleach comes too little, too late…
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:26:52am

Hudson News is buying The National Enquirer and its sister rags for $100M, according to the Washington Post.

American Media Inc. is selling the National Enquirer for $100 million to James Cohen, CEO of Hudson News, ending an association between a longtime friend of President Trump and the tabloid that illegally attempted to bury embarrassing news about Trump during the 2016 campaign.

The supermarket tabloid, along with two sister publications, is set to be purchased by the head of the travel retailer known for its airport newsstands.

The decision to sell came after Anthony Melchiorre, the hedge-fund manager whose firm controls AMI, became disillusioned with the reporting tactics of the Enquirer and the legal and political pressure that resulted from them, according to people familiar with the deliberations.

washingtonpost.com

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:49:41am

Good luck with that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:32:18am

Today in clickbait:

Scientists have established a link between religious fundamentalism and brain damage (Goes to Raw Story)

TL;DR version: A study was published at PubMed
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (full text of study)
Testing was conducted on 119 Vietnam War veterans who suffered penetrating brain injuries to a particular part of the brain, the ventromedial prefrontal cortex.

This part of the brain is considered critical to religious belief and extreme political conservatism. The study compared the test subjects to a control group of 30 Vietnam War veterans with no brain damage.

They found that in addition to damage to the ventromedial prefrontal cortex, damage to the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex also causes rigidity in religious belief.

They also noted that people so injured tended to rate radical political positions as moderate.

From the study:

In general, religious beliefs tend to differ from empirical beliefs. Although people may think subjectively of religious belief as a true or false representation of how the world is, it is notable that certain religious beliefs do not generally update in response to evidence, and that conservatism is especially notable in the case of fundamentalist beliefs. Empirical beliefs are indications of how the world appears to us and are updated according to accumulated evidence. Fundamentalist religious beliefs, in comparison, do not track and predict variation in the world. Rather, they appear to track, and predict, social group-level commitments (Bulbulia & Schjoedt, 2012).

Further down in the study, they note the issue of intelligence and religiosity, previously studied by a different group in 2013. That study showed a small but measurable difference in intelligence.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (abstract of the 2013 study)

This study used the Armed Forces Qualification Test, since those scores were available for the Vietnam veterans. They noted a significant drop in AFQT scores amongst the veterans who had brain injuries and increased fundamentalist beliefs, with no change in those who were not injured.

The study in no way suggests you have to be brain-damaged to be either a fundamentalist religious believer or a conservative. The Raw Story headline and body of the story implies that until you get way down in the bottom of the article.

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John Hughes  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:46:52am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

The last episode is pretty great — shows exactly how useful a well armed population would be in extreme conditions.

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freetoken  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:22:58am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Mostly I shy away from those sort of claims… it’s very difficult to show causality in human character traits in general and something as vague as “religion” is going to be even more of a challenge to analyze.

While there have been previous research trying to link attraction to certainty (which is expressed in religious fundamentalism or political “conservatism”) with various genetic causes, frankly complex human traits are polygenic and the correlations demonstrated don’t rise to near anywhere a physical science requires for evidence (though social science seems quite happy with just one sigma values.)

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:26:56am

Assange truly is an awful human being.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:34:41am

re: #141 freetoken

Mostly I shy away from those sort of claims… it’s very difficult to show causality in human character traits in general and something as vague as “religion” is going to be even more of a challenge to analyze.

While there have been previous research trying to link attraction to certainty (which is expressed in religious fundamentalism or political “conservatism”) with various genetic causes, frankly complex human traits are polygenic and the correlations demonstrated don’t rise to near anywhere a physical science requires for evidence (though social science seems quite happy with just one sigma values.)

I can only offer anecdotes from my own life; I do not have the means or education to try to mount a study.

That said, the idea “it’s too hard” has never really been an issue with scientific study.

Such studies as the ones above will be further examined by others, and either buttressed or rebutted. This is a relatively new field of study.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:46:27am

Barr’s defense of Trump for firing Comey and other acts was that he was “frustrated.” Good thing we didn’t have a woman president—you know how emotional they can be…. ///

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DaZoid  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:51:00am

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

the human condition is very complex - typically any study that describes something specific applying to a group of people, is often under a very specific set of circumstances. It’s a fairly common problem in psychology reporting (even scientists do it themselves when trying to sum up their research).

(I have a PhD in a social psych, over-generalization is a pet peeve of mine)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:08:25am

re: #145 DaZoid

the human condition is very complex - typically any study that describes something specific applying to a group of people, is often under a very specific set of circumstances. It’s a fairly common problem in psychology reporting (even scientists do it themselves when trying to sum up their research).

(I have a PhD in a social psych, over-generalization is a pet peeve of mine)

I know everything about psychology because my mother is a clinical psychologist. /s

Seriously though, the study in question (not the Raw Story clickbait) did study a narrow set of circumstances: People who were injured in a specific brain area and for whom they had AFQT scores.

The claim of the study (besides the usual claim in any study of “this needs more study”) was on medical issues affecting behaviour.

It’s well-known that changes in the brain in anything from disease to brain injury to Alzheimer’s Disease cause changes in behaviour. In the case of that study, they were looking for specific behaviours (change to fundamentalist beliefs).

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jeffreyw  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:08:30am

Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:13:15am

re: #142 Patricia Kayden

Assange truly is an awful human being.

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I’m sure the apology from Lumpy will be coming any day now…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:13:19am

A commentator over at emptywheel had this to say on their article on William Barr’s performance piece yesterday.

some may believe this to be a trivial point but here goes - I feel strongly the tv newscasters and radio broadcasters should say the actual profane words uttered by the president and his minions - the American people need to have the jarring words ring in their ears. As a friend said to me - “so true. It started with shielding the public from grab them by their pussy. If our privileged white sisters had to hear that time and again….. maybe just maybe they would have “heard” it.”

That might have helped, but FCC regulations are pretty harsh if you broadcast stuff like that (as George Carlin adeptly demonstrated and Janet Jackson’s “wardrobe malfunction” showed).

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:14:37am

re: #147 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Pointy-headed, corn-eating birbs.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:28:06am

re: #144 Barefoot Grin

Barr’s defense of Trump for firing Comey and other acts was that he was “frustrated.” Good thing we didn’t have a woman president—you know how emotional they can be…. ///

Obstruction frustration of justice, what’s your function? Didn’t learn that one in Schoolhouse Rock. Barr just became the worst AG in our history. He’s not being AG. He’s being Trump’s personal advocate.

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Chrysicat  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:28:13am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

A commentator over at emptywheel had this to say on their article on William Barr’s performance piece yesterday.

That might have helped, but FCC regulations are pretty harsh if you broadcast stuff like that (as George Carlin adeptly demonstrated and Janet Jackson’s “wardrobe malfunction” showed).

For the broadcast networks and on local broadcast news, you’re definitely right.

World News Tonight, CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News are required to bowdlerise. So’s your 11 O’Clock News team, though they’re as likely as not burying national politics anyway. I’m not so sure if pre-watershed MSNBC and CNN are compelled to do the same or not, and after 23:00 Eastern time, they’re definitely not required.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:31:44am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:33:50am

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

NY Times did you really have to publish an opinion piece that demonstrates such blind idiocy or dishonesty as “Barr is right about everything. Admit you were wrong.”

The Post published that one too. The writer is some former small town wingnut newspaper editor who thinks he speaks for “real America” aka people who blindly support Trump and the FNC version of the world. I wish they wouldn’t publish his crap.

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:35:13am

The Colored Pencil Guitar Guy is at it again. This time, he’s built a Flying V using giant jawbreaker candy.

I Built a Guitar Out of 8 Mega Jawbreaker Candies

Sweet.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:35:31am

Well oiled machine
Only the best
Only I can fix it

New York Times: “The White House that emerges from more than 400 pages of Mr. Mueller’s report is a hotbed of conflict infused by a culture of dishonesty — defined by a president who lies to the public and his own staff, then tries to get his aides to lie for him.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:36:46am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

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No you fucking lied to the American people to rationalize your boss’s obstruction and then when you would have faced possible prosecution if you lied, you suddenly became truthful and you wonder why that restaurant denied you and why Michelle Wolf called you a liar. You’re nothing but a pathetic liar Sarah.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:37:56am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

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Ah, the Trumper default position: “Well, at least I’m not a Democrat!”

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:38:20am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

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One take: once off script, she only lies.
Another take: she was on script—the one Trump personally gave her.

Both are likely true. Lie—it’s what they do.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:39:19am

re: #159 Barefoot Grin

One take: once off script, she only lies.
Another take: she was on script—the one Trump personally gave her.

Both are likely true. Lie—it’s what they do.

Too bad the media still won’t use the word “lie.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:39:35am

moron is upset

I gotta take trash to the dump, so I’ll have see how he finishes this rant when I get back.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:40:35am

As pointed out though, this wasn’t a heat of the moment thing. She doubled down on it. And that’s not a heat of the moment thing. Whatever though. She’s a fucking liar through and through. And now we know for sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:41:06am

“bullshit”…the moron actually tweeted that word

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:41:30am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

A commentator over at emptywheel had this to say on their article on William Barr’s performance piece yesterday.

That might have helped, but FCC regulations are pretty harsh if you broadcast stuff like that (as George Carlin adeptly demonstrated and Janet Jackson’s “wardrobe malfunction” showed).

FCC rules regarding the seven deadly words only apply to broadcast transmissions, not cable or satellite feeds. And broadcast networks have become adept at bleeping just enough of a word to stay within the FCC regs while making clear what the word is.

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Chrysicat  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:41:52am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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I gotta take trash to the dump, so I’ll have see how he finishes this rant when I get back.

Oh, good Lord. He’s going to threaten to fire Barr unless he brings capital cases against the entire investigative team for “attempting to overthrow the President”, isn’t he?

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jeffreyw  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:42:00am

re: #150 wrenchwench

Pointy-headed, corn-eating birbs.

We hand sort all of our birb corn to select for pointy headed attraction. Proprietary methodology.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:42:01am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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I gotta take trash to the dump, so I’ll have see how he finishes this rant when I get back.

Yeah he’s winning all right. He sees nothing wrong with what he did. Impeach the asshole. We may not remove him from office but he needs to be impeached.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:43:46am

34 minutes since his last tweet…maybe somebody grabbed his phone before he could finish the rant…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:44:06am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

I gotta take trash to the dump, so I’ll have see how he finishes this rant when I get back.

Wait. It was 13 angry Democrats, then 23 angry Democrats, now 18 angry Democrats.

Does he know how to count?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:44:19am

re: #156 Man, DangerMan

Well oiled machine
Only the best
Only I can fix it

Mueller’s report has verified the dysfunctional White House as depicted in every recent exposé of the dysfunctional White House.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:44:23am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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I gotta take trash to the dump, so I’ll have see how he finishes this rant when I get back.

Take your time—it could show up at the dump.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:44:57am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

“bullshit”…the moron actually tweeted that word

Leader of the free world….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:45:21am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

Wait. It was 13 angry Democrats, then 23 angry Democrats, now 18 angry Democrats.

Does he know how to count?

McCarthy lost track of how many Communists there were at the State Department too but Mr. John Jameson probably explained that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:45:47am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

Wait. It was 13 angry Democrats, then 23 angry Democrats, now 18 angry Democrats.

Does he know how to count?

No

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Chrysicat  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:45:53am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

34 minutes since his last tweet…maybe somebody grabbed his phone before he could finish the rant…

Or I suppose we can pray he stroked out while trying to complete it?

Nah, we couldn’t be so lucky.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:46:11am

re: #172 Barefoot Grin

Leader of the free world….

Let him dig his own hole. Every tweet is fodder for prosecutors.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:48:16am

re: #175 Chrysicat

Or I suppose we can pray he stroked out while trying to complete it?

Nah, we couldn’t be so lucky.

Where’s the Patron Saint of being constipated on Good Friday when you need him?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:49:47am

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:50:29am

re: #178 Man, DangerMan

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That ship sailed awhile ago Dave.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:52:08am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

Statements are made about me by certain people in the Crazy Mueller Report, in itself written by 18 Angry Democrat Trump Haters, which are fabricated & totally untrue.

Yup, those eighteen Angry Democrat Trump Haters are in fact fabricated, by you.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:53:03am

re: #178 Man, DangerMan

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That makes them something other than conservatives. I could make up a word for what they would be or are, but I’m sure a suitable word already exists.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:53:33am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Where’s the Patron Saint of being constipated on Good Friday when you need him?

So far I would only rank this as an above average Friday. /s

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:53:42am

One thing that might be agitating Trump is that while the report lays out that ‘a sitting president may not be indicted,’ it also strongly asserts that the same evidence may be used for prosecution once he’s left office (or, of course, for impeachment).

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:54:45am

re: #181 wrenchwench

That makes them something other than conservatives. I could make up a word for what they would be or are, but I’m sure a suitable word already exists.

We would then have to accept the “no true conservative argument” when we can count numerous examples throughout history where conservatives have done precisely that.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:56:02am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹

So far I would only rank this as an above average Friday. /s

Depends what I do for breakfast and lunch. Already know I’m doing pizza for dinner so that qualifies as it being good and it being Friday makes it good too.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:59:11am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹

We would then have to accept the “no true conservative argument” when we can count numerous examples throughout history where conservatives have done precisely that.

Here’s a scenario; our acceptance of the ‘no true conservative argument’ comes with, ‘That’s right. None of them are true conservatives. They’re fascists.’

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:00:38am

Brian Klaas on Twitter: If Barr watched Titanic, he’d describe it as a film about 700 people getting slightly delayed on the way to New York after 1500 people disembarked before reaching their destination.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:02:31am

re: #186 wrenchwench

Here’s a scenario; our acceptance of the ‘no true conservative argument’ comes with, ‘That’s right. None of them are true conservatives. They’re fascists.’

I yield to your conclusion.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:05:49am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Depends what I do for breakfast and lunch. Already know I’m doing pizza for dinner so that qualifies as it being good and it being Friday makes it good too.

Thanks for reminding me. Here’s my commemorative Good Friday photo. With apologies for the blasphemy.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:12:47am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:14:00am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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I gotta take trash to the dump, so I’ll have see how he finishes this rant when I get back.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:18:01am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:18:12am

re: #189 wrenchwench

Thanks for reminding me. Here’s my commemorative Good Friday photo. With apologies for the blasphemy.

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TBH every Friday should be a good one. Cheers.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:18:43am

re: #192 Belafon

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Rage tweet in 3…2..1 about the NYT.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:19:30am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:21:13am

re: #195 Belafon

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Good catch on her part.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:25:49am

buzzfeed.com

Now that the redacted version of the Mueller Report has been released, the Australian government has released classified cables regarding George Papadopoulis.

The London meeting between former high commissioner Alexander Downer and Trump adviser George Papadopoulos was first reported by the New York Times in December 2017, reportedly revealing how Downer had been told by Papadopoulos that Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Until now, the Australian government and Downer have refused to confirm or give any details about the meeting central to the beginning of the Trump-Russia investigation, repeatedly citing the need to preserve national security.

(more)

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Mike Lamb  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:26:03am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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I gotta take trash to the dump, so I’ll have see how he finishes this rant when I get back.

There it is…the Report is full of lies. He is nothing if not predictable.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:26:51am

re: #197 Anymouse 🌹

buzzfeed.com

Now that the redacted version of the Mueller Report has been released, the Australian government has released classified cables regarding George Papadopoulis.

(more)

I didn’t know coffee boys met with high commissioners.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:28:49am

re: #92 Ming5000

Agreed.
Thinking of the opposite… if I was a right ringer, who would I not enjoy talking baseball with?
To be fair, I could not be in those right wing shoes. Also , I couldn’t talk baseball.
But, any lefty I could enjoy for most conversations. I feel Bernie would be a drag…
Does Stein count as lefty? She is off my list. Tulsi is off my list too.

Steny Hoyer comes to mind right now.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:36:43am

WaPo headline: Mueller details Russian interference, Trump’s attempts to disrupt probe. This isn’t going to go well for him. Barr yesterday was the Hail Mary with five seconds left on the clock with no timeouts.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:39:23am

Eddie Lampert is in hot water. So is Bond villain Steven Mnuchin.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Sears Holdings Corp sued longtime former Chairman Eddie Lampert, his hedge fund ESL Investments and others like Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, claiming they illegally siphoned billions of dollars of assets from the retailer before it went bankrupt.

The lawsuit, made public on Thursday, was filed by the restructuring team winding down Sears’ bankruptcy estate and suing on behalf of creditors, many of whom blame Lampert for the retailer’s downfall.

It followed the billionaire’s $5.2 billion purchase in February of most Sears assets, including the DieHard and Kenmore brands, after a bankruptcy auction.

The complaint seeks the repayment of “billions of dollars of value looted from Sears,” including while it was in what Lampert would later call a “death spiral” where it sold core assets to meet daily expenses with no real plan for becoming profitable.

finance.yahoo.com

Lampert’s real motivation for taking control of Sears was to rake in billions while sucking the corporation dry, like a money vampire.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:41:15am

re: #202 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Eddie Lampert is in hot water. So is Bond villain Steven Mnuchin.

finance.yahoo.com

Lampert’s real motivation for taking control of Sears was to rake in billions while sucking the corporation dry, like a money vampire.

Ain’t capitalism the best ever? //

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:44:26am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Ain’t capitalism the best ever? //

I think the appropriate term is rational selfishness, also known as Objectivism, or IGMFY.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:44:46am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Ain’t capitalism the best ever? //

Deregultae! DEREGUALATE!

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:45:15am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

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Morning!

That is some slick Christian lying about lying from Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

I guess she doesn’t realize the official press agent for the White House is not supposed to be a liar. But then, everything about this White House is a lie.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:46:24am

re: #204 Belafon

I think the appropriate term is rational selfishness, also known as Objectivism, or IGMFY.

I agree. I’m just saying that everything that happens in Venezuela is used to denounce any form of socialism yet the worst excesses aren’t the same way with capitalism.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:51:49am

The season finale of Star Trek: Discovery has the explanation why no one in the original series and thereafter mentions Michael Burnham as Spock’s foster-sister, or the spore drive, or the USS Discovery.

Details in spoiler mode:

Short answer: everyone is sworn to secrecy, to protect the galaxy from the future annihilation of all sentient life. Michael and Discovery have dropped into wormhole to carry the data that would lead to such annihilation into the future for safekeeping. Or something. Time travel plots make me dizzy.

On an unrelated note, I can tell Michelle Yeoh is enjoying her role. Her character is doggone ruthless.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:54:47am

re: #176 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Let him dig his own hole. Every tweet is fodder for prosecutors.

Yep. As I said on Wednesday, I hope the report release gets him all pissed off and he starts raging and says something that costs him.

I think the “bullshit” in the tweet is indicative of his starting to get real pissed off that yesterday didn’t end his problems. It may have opened up more because his two years trying to tamp down Mueller are now exposed as…obstruction.

So keep obstructing there Donny.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:54:55am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

I agree. I’m just saying that everything that happens in Venezuela is used to denounce any form of socialism yet the worst excesses aren’t the same way with capitalism.

I forgot to include the //. I totally agree.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:57:03am

re: #205 Teukka

Deregultae! DEREGUALATE!

More destructive than capitalist Daleks!

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:57:31am

re: #208 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Curious what you thought of Arrival starring Amy Adams.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:02:23am

re: #210 Belafon

I forgot to include the //. I totally agree.

Ah ha but yeah. I think this Onion article via Clickhole shows how I feel. patriothole.clickhole.com
The worst excesses of socialism are done to discredit all socialism but capitalism’s worst excesses are just brushed aside as “crony capitalism” or “the free market at work.” I TBH would consider myself to the center of a lot of the new lefties that have emerged in the past few years, where I agree with them is that Capitalism as we’re selling it isn’t working. People shouldn’t be graduating college with tons of debt.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:12:00am

re: #212 Belafon

Curious what you thought of Arrival starring Amy Adams.

I thought it was very good. I have not read the short story on which it’s based, though. The science was mostly within the realm of possibility — setting aside the alien technology stuff. And the themes, especially the challenges of communicating with a totally alien species, did what good SF should do: make people think deep thoughts.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:12:47am

re: #202 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Lampert’s real motivation for taking control of Sears was to rake in billions while sucking the corporation dry, like a money vampire.

IMHO the powers that be did the same thing to GE.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:14:24am

re: #214 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I thought it was very good. I have not read the short story on which it’s based, though. The science was mostly within the realm of possibility — setting aside the alien technology stuff. And the themes, especially the challenges of communicating with a totally alien species, did what good SF should do: make people think deep thoughts.

My wife had trouble with the looping nature of the story.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:15:34am

I’m going to write an opinion page in a bit guys. I would greatly appreciate if you took a look at the final product. The release of the Mueller Report has me thinking a lot about the modern world as we’re about to enter a new decade.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:15:54am

re: #216 Belafon

My wife had trouble with the looping nature of the story.

Yeah. time loops are rarely handled well in SF stories, but they make for great plot devices!

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:17:20am

Annnnd here….we…..go…..

That oughta ruin Granpa Stompy Foot’s weekend.

Added bonus - any attempts to fight the subpoena will only build the obstruction narrative. Quite the corner they’ve painted themselves into there…

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:18:19am

I thought the story had less to do with time loops than with how time and causation might be perceived differently. And how the viewpoint characters perception of the world was changed by working towards understanding the aliens. The author is worth reading since I like the short story collection.

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:20:02am

In today’s category of “Would it have killed them to spend one minute’s research first”…

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:21:56am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

Are modern conservatives concerned with personal responsibility?

It seems to me like…as with everything else…that the only principle that’s applied consistently is that the the norms are looser and more forgiving for their in group.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:22:51am

re: #222 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Are modern conservatives concerned with personal responsibility?

It seems to me like…as with everything else…that the only principle that’s applied consistently is that the the norms are looser and more forgiving for their in group.

They’re for the personal responsibility of others but not themselves.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:23:15am

re: #221 Archangelus

Snort. (I just got up, took me a minute.)

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:24:04am

re: #224 A hollow voice says, Oringes…

Snort. (I just got up, took me a minute.)

Per a friend, it’s about as fitting as someone tweeting “Happy Easter!” with this… xD

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:24:56am

re: #220 Feline Fearless Leader

I thought the story had less to do with time loops than with how time and causation might be perceived differently. And how the viewpoint characters perception of the world was changed by working towards understanding the aliens. The author is worth reading since I like the short story collection.

Yeah, my wife didn’t get that the first time. And telling that story in a linear fashion - the way we perceive things - the way you would have to in a movie, through my wife for a loop. You kind of had to watch the movie, and then in your mind stich the ends together.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:26:16am

re: #221 Archangelus

In today’s category of “Would it have killed them to spend one minute’s research first”…

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Their first attempt was a picture blood on the frame of a door. Luckily it was rejected as too graphic.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:27:09am

re: #225 Archangelus

Per a friend, it’s about as fitting as someone tweeting “Happy Easter!” with this… xD

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Oh, much less so. There’s no religious prohibition on killing the wabbit in Christianity (you can even eat it for your festive dinner).

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:27:26am

re: #226 Belafon

Yeah, my wife didn’t get that the first time. And telling that story in a linear fashion - the way we perceive things - the way you would have to in a movie, through my wife for a loop. You kind of had to watch the movie, and then in your mind stich the ends together.

It’s a movie (and story) you have to see/read more than once to fully understand it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:28:12am

Meanwhile, at the U.S. Mexico border…

(Reuters) - The American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico on Thursday called for state authorities to investigate a small group of armed U.S. citizens who they alleged are illegally detaining migrants entering the United States.

The United Constitutional Patriots, who claim to be mainly military veterans, have been patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border near Sunland Park, New Mexico, since late February in search of illegal border crossers.

They post near daily videos showing members dressed in camouflage and armed with semi-automatic rifles holding groups of migrants, many of them Central American families seeking asylum, until U.S. Border Patrol agents arrive to arrest them.

The small volunteer group says it is helping Border Patrol deal with a surge in undocumented migrants but civil rights organizations like the ACLU say it is a “fascist militia organization” operating outside the law.

“We cannot allow racist and armed vigilantes to kidnap and detain people seeking asylum,” the ACLU said in a letter to New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham and Attorney General Hector Balderas.

“We urge you to immediately investigate this atrocious and unlawful conduct.”

The offices of Lujan Grisham and Balderas did not respond to requests for comment.

On a March 27 visit to El Paso, Texas, next to Sunland Park, then U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Commissioner Kevin McAleenan said his agency, which runs U.S. Border Patrol, did not need the help of citizens to police the border.

The UCP says it is responding to a rise in migrant arrests to their highest monthly levels in more than a decade.

The ACLU said the group was a product of the Trump administration’s “vile racism” that “has emboldened white nationalists and fascists to flagrantly violate the law.”

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:30:48am

Such a dipshit:

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:30:55am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

Question about this group. What would happen if a group of Hispanic US citizens happened to be walking along the border and were “detained” by this group. Doesn’t that hold them up to a potential big pile of hurt for kidnapping while armed?

I can imagine them as a group trying to tell a judge it was an innocent mistake.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:33:44am
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sagehen  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:33:59am

re: #221 Archangelus

In today’s category of “Would it have killed them to spend one minute’s research first”…

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Could be worse:

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:35:02am
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:35:35am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

“The Democrats tell the truth so much they’re like robots, but not us!” just seems like an awkward campaign slogan.

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:36:13am

re: #234 sagehen

Could be worse:

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Thanks, I really did need a coffee refill… and to clean my PC screen… ;)

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:37:06am

re: #234 sagehen

Could be worse:

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Little know fact: It’s the bone that God truly disliked. //

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:38:48am

re: #232 Feline Fearless Leader

They would be forced to prove their citizenship at gunpoint (untrained inexperienced gunpoint). The border patrol won’t pull unless the threat is recognized for just this reason. Lots of citizens of Mexican descent live right on the fence and have to go thru process all the time.

I used to work on the border from Del Rio to the coast.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:38:58am

NBC news claims Biden will announce Presidential run next week.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:39:46am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

Wait. It was 13 angry Democrats, then 23 angry Democrats, now 18 angry Democrats.

Does he know how to count?

Isn’t that what Joe McCarthy did in warning us about the number of Communists in the State Department? Liars got to lie — and when everything is a lie, it’s sometimes hard to remember what you said the last time.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:39:53am

re: #236 Belafon

“The Democrats tell the truth so much they’re like robots, but not us!” just seems like an awkward campaign slogan.

I thought she was looking like hell there, but then the old footage played, and I saw that she hasn’t changed all that much.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:41:23am

re: #221 Archangelus

In today’s category of “Would it have killed them to spend one minute’s research first”…

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I guess they meant well, but oy gevalt…!

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:41:48am

re: #165 Chrysicat

Oh, good Lord. He’s going to threaten to fire Barr unless he brings capital cases against the entire investigative team for “attempting to overthrow the President”, isn’t he?

barr’s job is done. he’s no longer the center of attention. yesterday it was all eyes and ears on him.

now it’s all about congress and a yet to be named federal judge

today, barr is a coffee boy.

- he may or may not stick around being
- trump’s gonna be pissed because he didnt accomplish (very well) what he was hired for
- he lied pretty good and documented it. he could be in some trouble
- while it’s early days in his new ‘career’, he may quickly realize he had enough already

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:42:23am

re: #236 Belafon

That retort of hers is a pretty good index of where conservatism is mentally.

There’s nothing deeper than reflexive tu quoque and bad faith, but they’re committed.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:44:28am

re: #239 Dave In Austin

They would be forced to prove their citizenship at gunpoint (untrained inexperienced gunpoint). The border patrol won’t pull unless the threat is recognized for just this reason. Lots of citizens of Mexican descent live right on the fence and have to go thru process all the time.

I used to work on the border from Del Rio to the coast.

I guess part of my point is that they *don’t* have to prove their citizenship to a bunch of armed men who are not acting in any official capacity. Verbally claim you’re US citizens in a place you are allowed to be in - especially for instance if it’s private property and one of them owns the property. And if the armed mob attempts to detain you call in the police to deal with them.

It would be a pretty brave act to confront this bunch like that though, and have a notable amount of risk involved. But otherwise I cannot think of much that would make them desist.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:45:17am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

Wait. It was 13 angry Democrats, then 23 angry Democrats, now 18 angry Democrats.

Does he know how to count?

Of course. But it’s “counting” in Trump Math.
The numbers only add up to what Trump wants to show.
Just like in most of his real-estate prospectuses…

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:45:27am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

Mr. Walsh? You do realize those ‘sanctuary cities’ you want to ‘blow up’ are full of Americans, don’t you.

Oh wait. They aren’t ‘Real Muricans’ in your estimation.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:45:32am

re: #245 The Ghost of Quesos Past

That retort of hers is a pretty good index of where conservatism is mentally.

There’s nothing deeper than reflexive tu quoque and bad faith, but they’re committed.

“But you killed someone!”
“Yeah, but at least I wasn’t like the Democrats, who would have given them food.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:47:03am

For those who denounce as blasphemy anyone putting pineapple on pizza this should be even more revolting!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:47:17am

re: #246 Feline Fearless Leader

No they don’t. But as a citizen, give them what they want. Once proven, get as much info as you can and report them

They are no better than bandits.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:47:43am

re: #209 ObserverArt

Yep. As I said on Wednesday, I hope the report release gets him all pissed off and he starts raging and says something that costs him.

I think the “bullshit” in the tweet is indicative of his starting to get real pissed off that yesterday didn’t end his problems. It may have opened up more because his two years trying to tamp down Mueller are now exposed as…obstruction.

So keep obstructing there Donny.

it didnt because there are 12 or so other investigations ongoing
he may not realize every time he opens his mouth/twitter he’s messing with them too

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:47:57am

re: #246 Feline Fearless Leader

I guess part of my point is that they *don’t* have to prove their citizenship to a bunch of armed men who are not acting in any official capacity. Verbally claim you’re US citizens in a place you are allowed to be in - especially for instance if it’s private property and one of them owns the property. And if the armed mob attempts to detain you call in the police to deal with them.

That bunch of armed men should be charged with impersonating U.S. officials. The impersonation fooled asylum seekers. The should be a bigger, worser charge for doing it with a gun.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:48:37am

re: #249 Belafon

I’m fairly certain as an new-minted adolescent I justified something stupid by shouting “I’m not a robot.”

In my defense, my Dad did want me to be a golem. Barely joking.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:48:37am

re: #248 Romantic Heretic

Mr. Walsh? You do realize those ‘sanctuary cities’ you want to ‘blow up’ are full of Americans, don’t you.

Oh wait. They aren’t ‘Real Muricans’ in your estimation.

What Walsh doesn’t get is the reason why Sanctuary Cities exist and why they in fact work is because undocumented people don’t want to be scared to go to the police. We had a policy that we tried to implement when I was an undergrad called the Good Samaritan Policy where someone who helped someone who got sick or hurt from underaged drinking or violating campus rules on drugs would not have to worry about punishment. Being undocumented is a misdemeanor. Walsh still doesn’t get that he wants to upend people’s lives over the equivalent of parking tickets.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:48:55am

Sarah… Sarah….

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:49:06am

re: #111 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

People that buy those jeans regard work as something the peasants do.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:49:16am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Ah ha but yeah. I think this Onion article via Clickhole shows how I feel. patriothole.clickhole.com
The worst excesses of socialism are done to discredit all socialism but capitalism’s worst excesses are just brushed aside as “crony capitalism” or “the free market at work.” I TBH would consider myself to the center of a lot of the new lefties that have emerged in the past few years, where I agree with them is that Capitalism as we’re selling it isn’t working. People shouldn’t be graduating college with tons of debt.

no different than IOKIYAR…

or the current fave of the day comparing mcconnell and graham’s comments re clinton vis a vis trump

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:49:38am

re: #258 Man, DangerMan

no different than IOKIYAR…

or the current fave of the day comparing mcconnell and graham’s comments re clinton vis a vis trump

Pence too.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:49:58am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

I’m going to write an opinion page in a bit guys. I would greatly appreciate if you took a look at the final product. The release of the Mueller Report has me thinking a lot about the modern world as we’re about to enter a new decade.

first we have to fight over whether that’s next year or the year after //

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:51:17am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:53:32am

re: #258 Man, DangerMan

no different than IOKIYAR…

or the current fave of the day comparing mcconnell and graham’s comments re clinton vis a vis trump

Amazing what a difference it makes depending on whose party has the person in that position of power.
///

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:54:12am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Being undocumented is a misdemeanor. Walsh still doesn’t get that he wants to upend people’s lives over the equivalent of parking tickets.

Seeking asylum is a right. No documentation needed (until a judge asks for something). AFAIK.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:55:34am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Pence too.

yeah i just saw that for the first time

my guess is any one / all of them have at least one good usable quote

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:56:53am

So what happens after you shell out over $2,000 for the new Galaxy Fold phone?

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:00:06am

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

So what happens after you shell out over $2,000 for the new Galaxy Fold phone?

You don’t read the instructions.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:00:21am

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

So what happens after you shell out over $2,000 for the new Galaxy Fold phone?

[Embedded content]

This is why I refuse to be an early adopter.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:00:52am

re: #261 Patricia Kayden

@dcpetterson People whine about Pelosi saying “impeachment is off the table”. That’s only half of what she said. It’s “off the table” *until there is sufficient evidence”.

The purpose of the investigations is to establish exactly that evidence.

Investigations are the necessary precursor.

i think this is an accurate quote right out of the report:

There is sufficient evidence that President Donald Trump obstructed justice to merit impeachment hearings.

-hearings
-what they’ve been planning all along and are doing now
-broader investigations than mueller could do. especially now that they have some idea of who to speak to and what to look for

personally, i’d guess house dems already have a timeline and they’re keeping their powder dry

right now….hearings. information, data, testimony, support, proof.

this is not about conviction in the senate
it’s about uncovering the truth

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:05:43am

re: #263 wrenchwench

Seeking asylum is a right. No documentation needed (until a judge asks for something). AFAIK.

Exactly. You have to do that within our borders. Now, Trump is free to attempt to change that part of the code but he is NOT free to offer a pardon to the CBP head for violating that.

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:06:30am

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

So what happens after you shell out over $2,000 for the new Galaxy Fold phone?

[Embedded content]

Honestly, a folding phone is kind of a stupid idea.

And paying two large for one might be slightly stupider…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:07:22am

re: #260 Man, DangerMan

first we have to fight over whether that’s next year or the year after //

Oh come on, I’m not that longwinded am I lol. I’m actually pretty proud of this one. I was thinking a little about how 20th century warfare mirrored the industrialization that was happening at the time in civil society just as I think 21st century mirrors our information technology revolution. I was also thinking about how disinformation gets spread rapidly.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:07:37am

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

So what happens after you shell out over $2,000 for the new Galaxy Fold phone?

[Embedded content]

So: the Galaxy Fold comes with a (presumably) off-peelable protective layer? Which one is NOT supposed to peel off? Even though - AFAICR - some sort of peel-off screen-protector is a standard item on a large range of devices (and is SUPPOSED to be removed)?

Great design and good marketing, there, guys…..

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:08:11am

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Christ! Who uses a P90 to shoot squirrels? It’s like using a flamethrower to clean out an ant’s nest.

P90 wouldn’t be good for the car either. Its AP rounds all go right through the doors and windows then tumble doing massive damage to the interior.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:09:27am

according to the report the trump campaign was ‘receptive’ to help from the russians

- lots of individual people on the team
- and lots of times

gee, didn’t they think they could win without help? you know, fairly?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:09:28am

littlegreenfootballs.com
Shameless promotion. :)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:11:44am

re: #274 Man, DangerMan

according to the report the trump campaign was ‘receptive’ to help from the russians

- lots of individual people on the team
- and lots of times

gee, didn’t they think they could win without help? you know, fairly?

I seem to remember a story about a Democrat who was helping Al Gore who prep to debate Bush who received an anonymous copy of Bush’s debate strategy who handed the documents over to the FBI. I know I’m going to piss off our NE Patriot fan Lizards here but it’s no wonder why Trump is a fan of Bob Kraft, Bill Belichick, and Tom Brady.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:15:06am

nytimes.com
Here we go. What former Rep Tom Downey did is the opposite of what everyone in the Trump team did.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:15:47am

and lets keep our focus here:

the fact that no charges yet (except all the guilty pleas and deals and that there are still 12+ other cases ongoing) and that congress is just getting started, is in a very large and real sense besides the point:

THEY DID THESE THINGS. all of it from the campaign to the inauguration to the actual running of the white house.

THEY DID ALL THESE THINGS.
and they aren’t disputing that all this happened.

it doesnt matter that it couldnt be proved (yet) or there’s a DOJ memo, or it might even have just have been a hair’s breadth on the right side of the line

THEY EFFIN DID ALL THIS

all they’re saying now with “game over” and “told you so” etc., is ‘we got away with it, you couldn’t catch us”.

Not “we didn’t do it.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:16:49am

re: #278 Man, DangerMan

and lets keep our focus here:

the fact that no charges yet (except all the guilty pleas and deals and that there are still 12+ other cases ongoing) and that congress is just getting started, is in a very large and real sense besides the point:

THEY DID THESE THINGS. all of it from the campaign to the inauguration to the actual running of the white house.

THEY DID ALL THESE THINGS.
and they aren’t disputing that all this happened.

it doesnt matter that it couldnt be proved (yet) or there’s a DOJ memo, or it might even have just have been a hair’s breadth on the right side of the line

THEY EFFIN DID ALL THIS

all they’re saying now with “game over” and “told you so” etc., is ‘we got away with it, you couldn’t catch us”.

Not “we didn’t do it.”

We can’t let them get away with it again.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:16:54am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Oh come on, I’m not that longwinded am I lol. I’m actually pretty proud of this one. I was thinking a little about how 20th century warfare mirrored the industrialization that was happening at the time in civil society just as I think 21st century mirrors our information technology revolution. I was also thinking about how disinformation gets spread rapidly.

just having a little fun ;-)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:17:54am

re: #248 Romantic Heretic

Mr. Walsh? You do realize those ‘sanctuary cities’ you want to ‘blow up’ are full of Americans, don’t you.

Oh wait. They aren’t ‘Real Muricans’ in your estimation.

As the article from the Weekly Standard noted, a lot of Walsh’s supporters say (paraphrasing) he was Trump before Trump was cool.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:18:15am

re: #280 Man, DangerMan

just having a little fun ;-)

I know. I like my observation about how Twitter and Facebook allows every individual to be the modern equivalent of the old time newsboy on the corner on the street shouting EXTRA! EXTRA!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:18:27am

re: #278 Man, DangerMan

“Yeah we did it, but so what? It wasn’t illegal!”

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steve_davis  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:20:55am

re: #35 Dave In Austin

Not an attack, I love you guys. There’s lots of people we may not have believed in in the past. But now, especially now, they are eyes white open and we should encourage that. I refuse to live dwelling in the past or to to live In roiling fear. So it’s all forward for me. And if a Republican (cap R) sees that as well, the more power to him. He/She is my bro/sis and my Fellow American. WE GO FORWARD!

I’m fucking Gumby damn it!!

and just think…if you hadn’t smoked all of that cannabis you might have made something with your life.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:21:04am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹

As the article from the Weekly Standard noted, a lot of Walsh’s supporters say (paraphrasing) he was Trump before Trump was cool.

Objection: Trump never has been and never will be cool.

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:22:53am

re: #273 Romantic Heretic

Christ! Who uses a P90 to shoot squirrels? It’s like using a flamethrower to clean out an ant’s nest.

You’re not supposed to use a flamethrower?

(Also - I look at P90 and automatically think of Gibson’s legendary original guitar pickup. Capable of doing sonic damage, but less likely to leave bullet holes. They look like this.)

/guitar geek

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:23:30am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

Sure he does.

“1, 2, 3, the biggest numbers ever! The best numbers ever. They’re my numbers.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:23:51am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

nytimes.com
Here we go. What former Rep Tom Downey did is the opposite of what everyone in the Trump team did.

The same article notes the same thing happened in the 1980 election between Carter and Reagan (the Reagan campaign received prep notes for Carter), but the Reagan campaign used them. That was exposed in 1983 and Jimmy Carter maintains that helped Ronald Reagan in the debate.

It’s almost as if the GOP has been getting illicit help my entire voting life.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:25:28am

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

Objection: Trump never has been and never will be cool.

LePage has also claimed the moniker of being Trump before Trump. Somewhere in the universe where viruses can communicate, the Plague bacteria is telling AIDS that it was killing people in the Dark Ages. Anyhow, Walsh is terrible ideologically. I don’t dispute that. I just think we do have to acknowledge that there are people even those with repulsive views themselves that find Trump’s criminality bothering. Now maybe a lot of it is self-serving since they’re worried about their ideology’s “good name” being smeared but as I said last night, we’re going to have a Post-Trump right and I really would rather it be men and women who right now see Trump is a crook more than people who continue to insist he did nothing wrong. Ideally I would love for a sane center right to emerge from the ashes but that’s gonna take time.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:26:48am

re: #288 Anymouse 🌹

The same article notes the same thing happened in the 1980 election between Carter and Reagan (the Reagan campaign received prep notes for Carter), but the Reagan campaign used them. That was exposed in 1983 and Jimmy Carter maintains that helped Ronald Reagan in the debate.

It’s almost as if the GOP has been getting illicit help my entire voting life.

Yes, I saw that as well. But no difference between the parties they say. And that article was written before Nixon’s Vietnam shenanigans in 1968 were revealed.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:27:00am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

We can’t let them get away with it again.

or let it continue unchecked….

- if the house doesnt investigate thoroughly and seriously
- if they dont ever raise an impeachment resolution

then i cant imagine the freewheeling in your eye nature of a 2nd trump term or another R presidency in the future

forget what the senate might do. they are not an objective jury of peers. though maybe if enough crap comes out the vote could get up to 60. that’s almost trump’s national polling (40+/- )

the house is all we have, so it’s the tool to use
he got away with a lot of stuff because the house was R for the first two years

the message has to be clear: it’s all about the constitution, not you (ie him)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:27:54am

re: #291 Man, DangerMan

or let it continue unchecked….

- if the house doesnt investigate thoroughly and seriously
- if they dont ever raise an impeachment resolution

then i cant imagine the freewheeling in your eye nature of a 2nd trump term or another R presidency in the future

forget what the senate might do. they are not an objective jury of peers. though maybe if enough crap comes out the vote could get up to 60. that’s almost trump’s national polling (40+/- )

the house is all we have, so it’s the tool to use
he got away with a lot of stuff because the house was R for the first two years

the message has to be clear: it’s all about the constitution, not you (ie him)

Exactly. The Constitution existed before Trump and it will hopefully long after he’s gone.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:30:23am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

“Yeah we did it, but so what? It wasn’t illegal!”

yes
though i said that was only one of several possibilities.

“yeah we did it, but you couldnt catch me copper” is another

and they seem to be ignoring the flip side of that:
- the 12+ investigations (individual_1, etc.)
- trump becomes more vulnerable when he leaves office

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:30:30am

re: #270 makeitstop

Honestly, a folding phone is kind of a stupid idea.

And paying two large for one might be slightly stupider…

A folding phone is an awesome idea. We’re just not there yet technology wise.

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Chrysicat  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:31:07am

re: #256 Dave In Austin

Sarah… Sarah….

[Embedded content]

You say that, and immediately within my head begins echoing “storms are brewing in your eyes”.

I really shoulda been listening to less radio when I was under 10.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:35:34am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Yes, I saw that as well. But no difference between the parties they say. And that article was written before Nixon’s Vietnam shenanigans in 1968 were revealed.

Yup. Politico has an article on that.

politico.com

To win the presidency, all Nixon (and his aide Anna Chennault) had to do was a little light treason and sacrifice the lives of thousands of Americans and North and South Vietnamese.

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steve_davis  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:36:07am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

He can be roomies with Edward Snowden.

i live with the secure knowledge that the president will be surrounded by a secret service detail after he leaves office, and that the secret service detail isn’t going to allow him to simply hop on a private plane to flee anywhere. And indictments from the SDNY will drop as soon as he is no longer president, meaning he’ll be under a court-ordered directive not to leave the country and to surrender his passport. He isn’t going anywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:36:28am

re: #296 Anymouse 🌹

Yup. Politico has an article on that.

politico.com

To win the presidency, all Nixon (and his aide Anna Chennault) had to do was a little light treason and sacrifice the lives of thousands of Americans and North and South Vietnamese.

Yeah I know the story there. I wish LBJ had said something.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:36:37am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

NBC news claims Biden will announce Presidential run next week.

Ugh.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:36:38am

re: #294 Belafon

A folding phone is an awesome idea. We’re just not there yet technology wise.

My phone folds. They call it a flip phone, but I can call it whatever I want.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:37:53am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:38:02am

re: #299 ObserverArt

Ugh.

So help me if our primary comes down to Joe and Bernie, both of whom I really think should step aside for a new generation of leadership.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:38:54am

re: #301 Patricia Kayden

@democracynow
.@ggreenwald on whether Trump should be impeached for obstruction: “I don’t think he had a corrupt motive. I think his motive was ‘I think this investigation is garbage and therefore I’m very open about the fact I want to stop it.’ I don’t think that’s obstruction of justice.”

you’re wrong.

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steve_davis  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:39:17am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I tell you why I hate Ben Shapiro so much. The man is utterly without joy in his life. He spent the day of his daughter’s birth trashing Obama and is just an overall nasty person. There are other conservative people who yeah I disagree like hell with them can see a person. I could easily see myself talking baseball with George Will or having a laugh with the late President Bush.

sorry, I’m just picturing you having a laugh with the late President Bush. His lower jaw falls off half-way through a guffaw.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:39:29am

re: #301 Patricia Kayden

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That’s a load of shit Glenn and you know it. The President doesn’t get to obstruct an investigation because he doesn’t think the investigation is merited. Admit it, you’re nothing but a shill. But hey enjoy your new friendship with Tucker. The more you talk the more people will see you for who you really are, a Kremlin stooge.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:39:34am

re: #244 Man, DangerMan

barr’s job is done. he’s no longer the center of attention. yesterday it was all eyes and ears on him.

now it’s all about congress and a yet to be named federal judge

today, barr is a coffee boy.

- he may or may not stick around being
- trump’s gonna be pissed because he didnt accomplish (very well) what he was hired for
- he lied pretty good and documented it. he could be in some trouble
- while it’s early days in his new ‘career’, he may quickly realize he had enough already

Don’t forget the U.S. citizens! It is now a lot about the citizens clamoring for Republicans to do the right things. If enough pressure can be put on the Senate it can be a game changer.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:40:26am

re: #300 wrenchwench

My phone folds. They call it a flip phone, but I can call it whatever I want.

I was kind of hoping someone would make a comment about a folding phone. I like that the Spanish word is celular, because I only use my phone about 1% of the time as an actual “talk to someone at a distance through sound” device. It’s a read the news, post to blogs, get me to some location, order online, read books, learn Spanish, watch videos device.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:40:44am

re: #304 steve_davis

sorry, I’m just picturing you having a laugh with the late President Bush. His lower jaw falls off half-way through a guffaw.

TBH I always imagined him being a stiff WASP type but HW Bush seems like he was a jovial older guy. Totally different than the grandfather I knew but someone you could talk to and man I would love to hear about the day he met Babe Ruth. I bet GWB asked him about that one a bit.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:41:37am

re: #303 Man, DangerMan

you’re wrong.

Greenwald is much worse at ‘lawyer’ than he is at ‘journalist’.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:42:09am

I’m back from the dump and running other errands and see that it’s been more than 3-1/2 hours since the moron’s last, incomplete, tweet thought.

Guess somebody DID take his phone away.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:43:17am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

So help me if our primary comes down to Joe and Bernie, both of whom I really think should step aside for a new generation of leadership.

It’s going to take us in the party, but we’ve got two people trying to take advantage of the media’s tendency of going with what used to work, in this case old white men.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:45:19am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:45:34am

re: #300 wrenchwench

My phone folds. They call it a flip phone, but I can call it whatever I want.

I have one of those. It even works when I’m in a city.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:45:38am

re: #311 Belafon

It’s going to take us in the party, but we’ve got two people trying to take advantage of the media’s tendency of going with what used to work, in this case old white men.

The frustrating thing to me is I do think Biden would be a good President but I really sincerely think new perspectives are needed. I don’t blame Biden for running. People like him. I just fear he’s not the right candidate for these times.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:45:59am

Seeing Trump losing his shit over everyone actually READING the Mueller Report, after claiming ‘Total Exoneration’ reminded me of a scene from “Dark Knight Rising”…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:46:12am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hate these thugs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:48:16am

re: #315 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s even better when you read it in Banes voice.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:48:56am

re: #301 Patricia Kayden

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Jesus…he looks like a day walker from Blade.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:49:02am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

[their spokesman is literally just some guy who moved down from Minnesota to hunt immigrants. we know his name.]

We need to let all those midwestern migrants in here. We need the money. They buy houses. We’d rather have all the Central Americans. They assimilate better.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:50:20am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

I hate these thugs.

We had a similar problem here when Colorado made weed legal.

Wingnuts in the Unicameral advanced the idea of closing all the roads crossing the Nebraska-Colorado state line except for paved ones (there are eleven paved roads which cross), and allowing vigilantes with guns to patrol the state line to “assist” county sheriff departments in “apprehending” smugglers.

That got shot down when farmers and ranchers here all objected. Many own property on both sides of the state line and would be hurt by having to take farm equipment many miles to a paved road. Other farmers and ranchers objected to armed wingnuts going on their properties.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:51:25am

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

We had a similar problem here when Colorado made weed legal.

Wingnuts in the Unicameral advanced the idea of closing all the roads crossing the Nebraska-Colorado state line except for paved ones (there are eleven paved roads which cross), and allowing vigilantes with guns to patrol the state line to “assist” county sheriff departments in “apprehending” smugglers.

That got shot down when farmers and ranchers here all objected. Many own property on both sides of the state line and would be hurt by having to take farm equipment many miles to a paved road. Other farmers and ranchers objected to armed wingnuts going on their properties.

There’s that conservative love of individual rights and small government we hear so much about that is never actually practiced.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:51:32am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:52:38am

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

We had a similar problem here when Colorado made weed legal.

Wingnuts in the Unicameral advanced the idea of closing all the roads crossing the Nebraska-Colorado state line except for paved ones (there are eleven paved roads which cross), and allowing vigilantes with guns to patrol the state line to “assist” county sheriff departments in “apprehending” smugglers.

That got shot down when farmers and ranchers here all objected. Many own property on both sides of the state line and would be hurt by having to take farm equipment many miles to a paved road. Other farmers and ranchers objected to armed wingnuts going on their properties.

I guess the simpler approach of making weed legal in Nebraska hadn’t occurred to them.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:53:45am

There is no suitable place to put all our unregulated militias for storage. We’ll have to keep exploring the solar system. And beyond!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:53:51am

re: #323 Blind Frog Belly White

I guess the simpler approach of making weed legal in Nebraska hadn’t occurred to them.

That’s going on the ballot as a referendum in 2020. Hopefully that will help voter turnout.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:54:09am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:54:15am

More guitar geekery, Score of the Century edition…

You might remember that earlier this week, I posted a link to Roy Buchanan’s 1953 Telecaster, on sale by a dealer in NYC for the princely sum of $45,000.

I’m reading the TDPRI Telecaster forum this morning, and some dude in Delaware posted that he found what looks to be a 1953 Telecaster at a flea market - and bought it for 20 bucks.

The experts over at the forum are weighing in, and it does indeed look like the real deal. Even with the so-so varnish refinish, the guitar is easily worth $10 grand. Fully restored, it will be worth twice that.

I am obviously not livin’ right. I gotta get out to more flea markets…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:54:27am

re: #324 wrenchwench

There is no suitable place to put all our unregulated militias for storage. We’ll have to keep exploring the solar system. And beyond!

They can be our new Space Force (marca registrada).

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:54:35am

re: #323 Blind Frog Belly White

I guess the simpler approach of making weed legal in Nebraska hadn’t occurred to them.

Nah that would require removing stick from their asses. I’m glad Virginia didn’t attempt anything that stupid when D.C. legalized. People here go to D.C. all the time for work, music, museums, baseball games, and yeah…….weed.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:55:24am

re: #326 Man, DangerMan

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:56:14am
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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:57:54am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:58:07am

re: #327 makeitstop

More guitar geekery, Score of the Century edition…

You might remember that earlier this week, I posted a link to Roy Buchanan’s 1953 Telecaster, on sale by a dealer in NYC for the princely sum of $45,000.

I’m reading the TDPRI Telecaster forum this morning, and some dude in Delaware posted that he found what looks to be a 1953 Telecaster at a flea market - and bought it for 20 bucks.

The experts over at the forum are weighing in, and it does indeed look like the real deal. Even with the so-so varnish refinish, the guitar is easily worth $10 grand. Fully restored, it will be worth twice that.

I am obviously not livin’ right. I gotta get out to more flea markets…

Was listening to some Roy the other night. He actually died in the town I was born in and I think was living where I first lived too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:58:22am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

littlegreenfootballs.com
Shameless promotion. :)

Shamelessly commented. /s

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:59:11am

re: #332 Man, DangerMan

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:00:47am

So tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of Columbine. I have thoughts. And I’ll be paging them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:01:05am
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plansbandc  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:01:19am

Yikes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:01:43am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Congratulations on reaching 419,098 karma points.

I think it’s important to mark milestones which are not simple numbers like 400,000.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:02:09am

re: #334 Anymouse 🌹

Shamelessly commented. /s

Great idea. I think you could honestly fit it into history class by using how things like the sinking of the Maine were used to rile up public opinion for war against Spain and then showing modern examples.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:02:39am

re: #301 Patricia Kayden

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Nice to know Amy brings on Glenn from The Fox White Power Hour…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:02:50am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah free the guy who was willing to act as an assassin for the Turkish government. GFY Geraldo.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:03:27am

re: #341 Joe Bacon 🌹

Nice to know Amy brings on Glenn from The Fox White Power Hour…

The strange relationship between the far left and right continues.

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:03:33am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Was listening to some Roy the other night. He actually died in the town I was born in and I think was living where I first lived too.

It’s hard to believe that region in Maryland produced both Roy and my personal hero, Danny Gatton. Both brilliant, both died by their own hand. Very sad to think about.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:03:52am

re: #339 Anymouse 🌹

Congratulations on reaching 419,098 karma points.

I think it’s important to mark milestones which are not simple numbers like 400,000.

Ha, thanks. And yeah every bit counts.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:05:16am

re: #338 plansbandc

Yikes.

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No worries, it’s going to take a long time for the ocean to get here.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:06:18am

re: #344 makeitstop

It’s hard to believe that region in Maryland produced both Roy and my personal hero, Danny Gatton. Both brilliant, both died by their own hand. Very sad to think about.

So many talented artists have a lot of inner demons when you think about it. I’ve been learning a lot more about the artistic process by reading both a DaVinci biography and talking with one of my old camp counselors who is a songwriter based in Portland. And honestly I can relate because I do know depression and anxiety even though I’ve gotten better.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:08:13am

re: #327 makeitstop

More guitar geekery, Score of the Century edition…

You might remember that earlier this week, I posted a link to Roy Buchanan’s 1953 Telecaster, on sale by a dealer in NYC for the princely sum of $45,000.

I’m reading the TDPRI Telecaster forum this morning, and some dude in Delaware posted that he found what looks to be a 1953 Telecaster at a flea market - and bought it for 20 bucks.

The experts over at the forum are weighing in, and it does indeed look like the real deal. Even with the so-so varnish refinish, the guitar is easily worth $10 grand. Fully restored, it will be worth twice that.

I am obviously not livin’ right. I gotta get out to more flea markets…

Brings back bittersweet memories of seeing Roy Buchanan performing The Messiah Will Come Again. Saw him multiple times.

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:10:32am

re: #348 Joe Bacon 🌹

Brings back bittersweet memories of seeing Roy Buchanan performing The Messiah Will Come Again. Saw him multiple times.

I never got to see Roy or Danny Gatton. Among my great regrets.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:11:17am

Roy Buchanan / Sweet Dreams
I dig this. I first heard this in The Departed. In fact, I wouldn’t mind making it my wake-up ringtone. Right now it’s the opening of Fleetwood Mac’s Albatross. I like instrumental music to wake me up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:18:39am

One time Dad went with me to see Roy perform in a little coffeehouse. Dad was mesmerized by the way Roy played that guitar…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:19:50am
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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:20:27am

re: #350 HappyWarrior

I dig this. I first heard this in The Departed. In fact, I wouldn’t mind making it my wake-up ringtone. Right now it’s the opening of Fleetwood Mac’s Albatross. I like instrumental music to wake me up.

One of his best tunes IMO.

‘Albatross’ is one of the greatest guitar songs ever written. The Green/Kirwan/Spencer team was absolutely elite. They don’t build bands like that anymore.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:21:53am

Interesting Columbine shooting fact: There were 15 people killed that day, more than had been in any school shooting going back 20 years (1979).

In the 20 years since Columbine, there have been three deadlier school shootings: Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook and Parkland and all of those have been in the past 12 years.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:22:23am

re: #351 Joe Bacon 🌹

One time Dad went with me to see Roy perform in a little coffeehouse. Dad was mesmerized by the way Roy played that guitar…

Some of my favorite shows I’ve been to have been going with my Dad. I’m glad my Dad’s obsession was music rather than something like football or golf. Never felt any pressure that I had to be something with him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:23:30am

re: #354 Eclectic Cyborg

Interesting Columbine shooting fact: There were 15 people killed that day, more than had been in any school shooting going back 20 years (1979).

In the 20 years since Columbine, there have been three deadlier shootings: Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook and Parkland and all of those have been in the past 12 years.

I kind of touched on Columbine, Va Tech, Sandy Hook, and Parkland in my page. Different than you are but more how we’ve responded to those.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:24:31am

I’m off to bed, y’all. Way past my bedtime. Catch you later.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:26:31am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

I kind of touched on Columbine, Va Tech, Sandy Hook, and Parkland in my page. Different than you are but more how we’ve responded to those.

Yeah my angle is how we’re failing kids and how those failures are leading them to try and solve their problems with violence.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:28:58am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:30:33am

re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah my angle is how we’re failing kids and how those failures are leading them to try and solve their problems with violence.

We are. Can’t wait read your page.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:31:02am

re: #273 Romantic Heretic

Christ! Who uses a P90 to shoot squirrels? It’s like using a flamethrower to clean out an ant’s nest.

Explain yourself. That seems like a perfectly reasonable mechanism for anthill removal.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:37:27am

re: #353 makeitstop

One of his best tunes IMO.

‘Albatross’ is one of the greatest guitar songs ever written. The Green/Kirwan/Spencer team was absolutely elite. They don’t build bands like that anymore.

Yeah I first heard Albatross in a documentary about the French guy who tightropped across the WTC or Empire State Building. I was shocked when I was told it was Fleetwood Mac.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:44:56am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area on this fine spring day, which also happens to be Good Friday and Erev Pesach. I wish everyone happy holidays and safe travels (for those heading to family for the weekend celebrations).

Know who isn’t having a good weekend?

Trumpworld.

Those fuckers are all fucked. Trump’s pissed at everyone who refused his advances to obstruct justice and commit crimes on his behalf. He’s pissed at everyone who told the truth. He’s pissed that the report shows he should be impeached. He’s pissed that his bulkshit (and yes, this is what I mean since it’s Costco level bullshit delivery- but not something I can take credit for as it appeared in Urban Dictionary independent and prior to my usage here) isn’t working to move the needle as much as he hopes for.

The only ones who keep buying his baffling BS are his know nothing base and sycophantic racist bigots (one and the same in most cases). Trump has no wiggle room and he knew it from the moment Mueller was identified as the special counsel.

Congress must investigate further. They should impeach. They should force the Congressional GOPers to defend this corrupt fucker who put his interests ahead of the nation time and again. Don’t confine the impeachment just to obstruction.

Expose every last bit of Trumpworld criminality - from the Trump U scam school to the Trump foundation scam to his money laundering and felonious conduct to cover up his adultery from campaign finance scrutiny.

And then focus harsh light on Wikileaks, Trump’s entreaties to get Russian and foreign assistance to take down Clinton, and how the Russians were more than willing to help undermine our elections to further Russia’s agenda.

MAGA is nothing but a sham, and Trump’s actions make it clear that he never believed a word of his own bulkshit. Force the GOP to own all of this, and take pride in knowing that you’re standing on the right side of history and the US Constitution. Democrats better start showing some spine - and that includes the various candidates for the WH.

If you don’t hold a corrupt and complicit Trump accountable via impeachment, then there’s no one who’d ever be held accountable, unless there’s a (D) after the name, because we all know the GOP wont hestitate to impeach for the slightest slight - regardless of facts or logic.

Make Graham eat his fucking words that he spewed during Clinton’s impeachment.

Make McConnell eat his too.

Those two fuckers think integrity and the rule of law applies only to Democrats being held accountable by a feckless and craven GOP - and not when it’s a criminal Trump and his fellow GOPers who conspired to undermine our very democracy and institutions of government.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:54:52am

re: #363 lawhawk

Those fuckers are all fucked.

Technical legal terminology? Oh, wait, that looks like a presidential quotation from the Mueller document, but applied to the administration, rather than to Individual One.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:55:04am

re: #363 lawhawk

Make Graham eat his fucking words that he spewed during Clinton’s impeachment.

Make McConnell eat his too.

McConnell has changed has stance on what would happen if a SCOTUS seat opens in the last year of Trump’s term.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:55:32am

re: #353 makeitstop

One of his best tunes IMO.

‘Albatross’ is one of the greatest guitar songs ever written. The Green/Kirwan/Spencer team was absolutely elite. They don’t build bands like that anymore.

I will get hammered for it, but to me the original Mac was the best, and the second version with Bob Welch was second best and then the most popular version with Buckingham and Nicks is third. That is all based on my tastes which obviously differ from most.

Yes I know that there were really many versions as the band went through a lot of changes…but those are the three most recognized Macs.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:57:47am

re: #365 wrenchwench

Technical legal terminology? Oh, wait, that looks like a presidential quotation from the Mueller document, but applied to the administration, rather than to Individual One.

Legal term. For when nothing will help you and even resignation wont help you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:58:16am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Yes I know that there were really many versions as the band went through a lot of changes…but those are the three most recognized Macs.

I always thought it was Fleetwood, Big and Bernie.

/

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 9:59:42am
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Mike Lamb  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:07:49am

re: #366 Belafon

McConnell has changed has stance on what would happen if a SCOTUS seat opens in the last year of Trump’s term.

I suspected he would because he’s the most hypocritical POS in the last 100 years at least, but what was his specific rationale?

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:09:31am

re: #371 Mike Lamb

I suspected he would because he’s the most hypocritical POS in the last 100 years at least, but what was his specific rationale?

It went something like “In this case, the president and the Senate are both controlled by the same party. That’s what was different about the last time.”

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piratedan  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:16:09am

Dear MSM…..

Item #1 - Glenn Greenwald pretty much only speaks for Glenn fucking Greenwald. You know and we know he’s going to dance around the periphery of any issue and say why its either the faults of the Dems or how its bad for them. I have no idea of any value that he brings to any conversation unless that IS exactly the political point of view that your News producer wants to share. Please, there’s no need to give him a soapbox.

Item #2 - How about you guys dive more deeply into why Mitch McConnell decided to put party over country by threatening to put the Russian interference with our national election into a partisan issue.

those two dots are kind of close, don’t you think, how about connecting them.

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CleverToad  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:17:22am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Great idea. I think you could honestly fit it into history class by using how things like the sinking of the Maine were used to rile up public opinion for war against Spain and then showing modern examples.

Tonypandy.
If you’ve never read ‘The Daughter of Time’ by Josephine Tey, I highly recommend it, both as a cold-case mystery and a look at historical propaganda.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:21:25am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:25:26am

re: #374 CleverToad

Tonypandy.
If you’ve never read ‘The Daughter of Time’ by Josephine Tey, I highly recommend it, both as a cold-case mystery and a look at historical propaganda.

I’ll look for it, thanks.

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:25:40am

re: #367 ObserverArt

I will get hammered for it, but to me the original Mac was the best, and the second version with Bob Welch was second best and then the most popular version with Buckingham and Nicks is third. That is all based on my tastes which obviously differ from most.

Yes I know that there were really many versions as the band went through a lot of changes…but those are the three most recognized Macs.

I’ll agree on #1. The Welch lineup never really did it for me, although Bare Trees was a damn fine record. I saw that lineup, back when Christine McVie was still Christine Perfect. I had a mad crush on that woman.

The Hit Machine FM would be #2 for me - the first two albums with that lineup, anyway. I think Warner Brothers could have taken that massive budget for Tusk and thrown it into the Pacific and done the world a favor. They totally lost me with that record.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:27:31am

re: #375 Teukka

Bullies count on people not retaliating.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:28:44am

re: #375 Teukka

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I don’t like guns at all but I do agree that we do need to be able to defend ourselves. I just think measures like background checks and frankly not allowing civilians or police to have certain weapons is sound policy.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:29:32am

re: #378 Belafon

Bullies count on people not retaliating.

Bullies also count on having the advantage of doing their deeds in obscura. Remove that advantage, make them do things in the full limelight, without them realizing it before it is too late to spin or salvage their situation.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:30:03am

Let me tell you what’s happening here in Red Texas. My company has a few TVs up that they normally have set to either HNN, though occasionally the one in the cafeteria gets turned to Fox. They’re all set to Accuweather.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:31:22am
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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:32:23am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

I don’t like guns at all but I do agree that we do need to be able to defend ourselves. I just think measures like background checks and frankly not allowing civilians or police to have certain weapons is sound policy.

I think that whether you use firearms, baseball bats or other tools for self defence, you should only use them in anger as a very last resort (ultima ratio), and be ridiculously forbearant, in part not to get tricked into lashing out in a way which hurts the cause, my mostly to maintain a element of surprise once one is backed into that particular corner.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:32:28am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah I heard about that. I’m definitely worried that Brexit may have spurred the Troubles 2,0.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:32:42am

re: #383 Teukka

I think that whether you use firearms, baseball bats or other tools for self defence, you should only use them in anger as a very last resort (ultima ratio), and be ridiculously forbearant, in part not to get tricked into lashing out in a way which hurts the cause, my mostly to maintain a element of surprise once one is backed into that particular corner.

Absolutely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:34:49am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

Yeah I heard about that. I’m definitely worried that Brexit may have spurred the Troubles 2,0.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:34:51am

dailykos.com

Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Republican of Texas, has upped his attacks on Rob Serra, a retired firefighter who survived 9/11, by claiming that Serra is conspiring against him with Democratic Rep. Max Rose. Which, if you’re keeping score, pits Crenshaw—a former Navy Seal who takes credibility from his war injury—against a 9/11 first responder and a fellow congressional Afghanistan veteran.

After Serra came forward to say that Crenshaw had refused to shake his hand in a Capitol Hill hallway as he lobbied for the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund—a claim backed up by a fellow 9/11 first responder who witnessed the snub—Crenshaw insisted that it was a dirty attack intended to get him back for his own attacks on Rep. Ilhan Omar. Now Crenshaw says that Serra is “conspiring with Max Rose” and “There’s a more malicious underlying motive here I think.” Oh, but he wasn’t done there: Crenshaw brought it back around to Rep. Omar (who, by the way, has co-sponsored the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund), saying, “This accusation is a nefarious attempt to undermine me because I spoke out against Omar. It’s highly dishonest.”

Crenshaw’s evidence for a conspiracy is that Rose retweeted Serra’s accusation that Crenshaw snubbed him. Serra is Rose’s constituent … and it’s a single retweet. As evidence of malicious conspiracy goes, it’s not the strongest. As Serra put it to the New York Daily News, “I’ve met Max Rose once or twice. All I did was respond to Max’s tweet. If that’s conspiring then I think we have different definitions of conspiring.”

Serra also returned to the key point: Crenshaw’s refusal so far to co-sponsor the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund: “I wanted to shake (Crenshaw’s) hand because I had respect for him. He may have been in a rush… and I’m by no means an important person, but I still stand by the fact that he needs to support this bill.”

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:36:22am

re: #387 Belafon

dailykos.com

Once an asshole, always an asshole.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:37:15am

re: #373 piratedan

Dear MSM…..

Item #1 - Glenn Greenwald pretty much only speaks for Glenn fucking Greenwald. You know and we know he’s going to dance around the periphery of any issue and say why its either the faults of the Dems or how its bad for them. I have no idea of any value that he brings to any conversation unless that IS exactly the political point of view that your News producer wants to share. Please, there’s no need to give him a soapbox.

Item #2 - How about you guys dive more deeply into why Mitch McConnell decided to put party over country by threatening to put the Russian interference with our national election into a partisan issue.

those two dots are kind of close, don’t you think, how about connecting them.

Re: Item #2 - It’s time for Obama to tell the tale out loud, if it happened the way I heard it did, that McConnell threatened him with the political retaliation you describe. He has a soapbox. It’s time to either get on it, or hand it to Pelosi. Now that I’ve thought of it, I prefer the latter. She has a soapbox of her own, but he can give it a greater height .

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:37:46am

re: #378 Belafon

Bullies count on people not retaliating.

EXACTLY!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:39:09am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I still hope for an united Irish republic one day but I want it done peacefully and I want a present world where people who want to be with the Republic and UK to live peacefully. People who think nationalism is this great thing don’t know a damn thing about the last century.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:39:33am

re: #389 wrenchwench

Re: Item #2 - It’s time for Obama to tell the tale out loud, if it happened the way I heard it did, that McConnell threatened him with the political retaliation you describe. He has a soapbox. It’s time to either get on it, or hand it to Pelosi. Now that I’ve thought of it, I prefer the latter. She has a soapbox of her own, but he can give it a greater height .

Yep.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:40:04am

Dan Crenshaw sucks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:40:13am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:40:43am

re: #393 Eclectic Cyborg

Dan Crenshaw sucks.

He does.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:41:42am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pretty much every conservative publication has this problem because white nationalism has become or if you’re more cynical has always been part of the mainstream American conservative movement.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:42:58am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The world needs more BMX. Skateboards, too, which I have come to believe are safer than bikes. (Scooters are worse.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:52:46am

This is good news for John McCain….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:53:52am

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

This is good news for John McCain….

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I’d honestly like to know how. Yeah he shouldn’t have listened to McConnell’s threat but that’s on McConnell being the worst presence in the Senate since Calhoun.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:55:59am

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

This is good news for John McCain….

No. It looks bad for Trump, and the GOP.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:57:31am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

I’d honestly like to know how. Yeah he shouldn’t have listened to McConnell’s threat but that’s on McConnell being the worst presence in the Senate since Calhoun.

Obama could and should have done more, but like everyone else including (apparently) Trump, he overestimated the American voter. He figured it was something that could be dealt with after the election by the Clinton Administration.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:58:21am

re: #401 Blind Frog Belly White

Obama could and should have done more, but like everyone else including (apparently) Trump, he overestimated the American voter. He figured it was something that could be dealt with after the election by the Clinton Administration.

Yep.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 19, 2019 • 10:58:46am

re: #327 makeitstop

More guitar geekery, Score of the Century edition…

You might remember that earlier this week, I posted a link to Roy Buchanan’s 1953 Telecaster, on sale by a dealer in NYC for the princely sum of $45,000.

I’m reading the TDPRI Telecaster forum this morning, and some dude in Delaware posted that he found what looks to be a 1953 Telecaster at a flea market - and bought it for 20 bucks.

The experts over at the forum are weighing in, and it does indeed look like the real deal. Even with the so-so varnish refinish, the guitar is easily worth $10 grand. Fully restored, it will be worth twice that.

I am obviously not livin’ right. I gotta get out to more flea markets…

In college a guy needing money sold me an old tele for $100, and told me to never sell it. He dropped out and disappeared. After college I needed money to get to Japan for a teaching gig, so I sold it to a friend for $250 and asked him to sell it back to me. It was old when I bought it in 1985. I never had it appraised, but I’m sure it is worth quite a bit now. My friend refused to sell it back to me, and I don’t blame him.

Anywho…. I have a MIJ Tele that works great and my old Firebird with three original 1960s P90s.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:00:09am

re: #400 Belafon

No. It looks bad for Trump, and the GOP.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:00:12am
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lizardofid  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:00:17am

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Beautiful, but this will always be my favorite version.

Patsy Cline - Sweet Dreams (Of You)

oh, hello everyone!

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:00:17am

re: #377 makeitstop

I’ll agree on #1. The Welch lineup never really did it for me, although Bare Trees was a damn fine record. I saw that lineup, back when Christine McVie was still Christine Perfect. I had a mad crush on that woman.

The Hit Machine FM would be #2 for me - the first two albums with that lineup, anyway. I think Warner Brothers could have taken that massive budget for Tusk and thrown it into the Pacific and done the world a favor. They totally lost me with that record.

Don’t forget Mystery to Me!

Bob Welch wrote Hypnotized for the album, and although not as big a hit as The Hit Machine Mac it was a pretty solid hit and a great song.

And as I said, it was my opinion because I never play any of the Hit Machine Mac, but I find I dig through all the original band stuff and I play both Bare Trees and Mystery to me several times a year.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:02:12am

re: #404 Blind Frog Belly White

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Sorry, I wasn’t replying to you, but to the original tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:02:17am

, re: #406 lizardofid

Beautiful, but this will always be my favorite version.

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oh, hello everyone!

Both are on The Departed soundtrack funnily enough.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:03:20am

re: #380 Teukka

Bullies also count on having the advantage of doing their deeds in obscura. Remove that advantage, make them do things in the full limelight, without them realizing it before it is too late to spin or salvage their situation.

That is because most bullies also know they are bullies and have to operate in the dark because they know it is wrong. And I also have a feeling a lot of bullies really do not like themselves and that is why they act out against others.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:07:06am

re: #408 Belafon

Sorry, I wasn’t replying to you, but to the original tweet.

Ah.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:07:59am

Needed to listen to a bit of Frank Zappa right now.

Frank Zappa - When the Lie’s so big - Barcelona

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:08:29am

re: #328 Anymouse 🌹

They can be our new Space Force (marca registrada).

Can we send them into the event horizon of a black hole so that we can get on with our lives while they enjoy some relativity?

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:08:34am

re: #408 Belafon

Sorry, I wasn’t replying to you, but to the original tweet.

Sometimes excessive punctuation helps. Not always.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:12:35am

re: #414 wrenchwench

Sometimes excessive punctuation helps. Not always.

I included the tweet I was replying to so that it would be more clear.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:12:59am

re: #414 wrenchwench

Sometimes excessive punctuation helps.

Say, what?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!?!????!??!?!?

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:15:14am

re: #387 Belafon

dailykos.com
Crenshaw’s evidence for a conspiracy is that Rose retweeted Serra’s accusation that Crenshaw snubbed him

let me slightly OT this

if retweeting is proof of complicity, ie a ‘conspiracy’ or even less of merely supporting the issue, then the president is a racist. <<<<<<———————— that there is a period / full stop.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:15:31am

re: #412 Joe Bacon 🌹

Needed to listen to a bit of Frank Zappa right now.

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Now, if they’d made a video among the theme of Evanescence’s “Everybody’s Fool”….

Evanescence - Everybody’s Fool

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:17:10am

re: #415 Belafon

I included the tweet I was replying to so that it would be more clear.

Sometimes when people don’t do that, I see comments go by in the Spy and think, ‘Whoa. That was rude. Oh, must have been a tweet.’

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:18:22am

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

This is good news for John McCain….

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Oh look a partisan opinion writer is complaining about the Mueller report being partisan.

Do these guys just recycle all these same points???

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:22:31am

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

This is good news for John McCain….
oh my
Scott Jennings

@ScottJenningsKY
Mueller’s report looks bad for Obama (opinion) - ⁦@CNNcnn.com

what the eff is CNN doing?

i cribbed this from this AM’s electoral-vote.com. which one is not like the others? CNN.

“Mueller Report Headlines”. this is only the left-leaning media and i didnt copy the links to each one.

The Washington Post: Mueller lays out evidence against Trump on obstruction, Russia
The New York Times: A Portrait of the White House and Its Culture of Dishonesty
CNN: Mueller had everything he needed to charge Trump with obstruction, but didn’t
NBC News: Mueller didn’t charge Trump—but his report is a brutal indictment
CBS News: The 10 times Trump may have obstructed justice, according to Mueller
MSNBC: Mueller reports ‘avalanche of facts’ on Trump obstruction
The Huffington Post: THE UGLY DETAILS
The New Republic: The Mueller Report’s Lasting Damage to Trump
Politico: Inside Trump’s years-long campaign to stymie the Russia investigation
The New Yorker: The Mueller Report Won’t End Trump’s Presidency, But It Sure Makes Him Look Bad

compare cnn to nbc

i’d just like to say that all these editors need to stop using ‘but’ when they mean “and”. almost as bad as them not using the word ‘lie’

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:25:22am

re: #420 ObserverArt

Oh look a partisan opinion writer is complaining about the Mueller report being partisan.

Do these guys just recycle all these same points???

yes

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:26:42am

re: #420 ObserverArt

Oh look a partisan opinion writer is complaining about the Mueller report being partisan.

Do these guys just recycle all these same points???

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Ye-e-e-e-e-e-esss.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:29:21am

re: #378 Belafon

Bullies count on people not retaliating.

Bullies also count on law enforcement being on their side. In Portland, Antifa and other leftist activists were targeted by the police while White Supremacists were allowed to act out in public without facing any consequences.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:32:23am

re: #421 Man, DangerMan

what the eff is CNN doing?

i cribbed this from this AM’s electoral-vote.com. which one is not like the others? CNN.

“Mueller Report Headlines”. this is only the left-leaning media and i didnt copy the links to each one.

compare cnn to nbc

i’d just like to say that all these editors need to stop using ‘but’ when they mean “and”. almost as bad as them not using the word ‘lie’

It is the same thing as the opinion writers you see in the NY Times and WaPo. These big media entities put in opinion pieces so they can be seen as balanced. The problem is most conservative opinion writers anymore are just GOP talking points over and over. There really is no original point or opinion it in.

If you read editor’s note about Jennings attached to the article you see:

Scott Jennings, a CNN contributor, is a former special assistant to President George W. Bush and former campaign adviser to Sen. Mitch McConnell. He is a partner at RunSwitch Public Relations in Louisville, Kentucky. Follow him on Twitter @ScottJenningsKY. The opinions expressed in this commentary are his own. View more opinion articles on CNN.

This guy obviously has a beef with Obama to cover for Mitch being Mitch, which is okay because Mitch is on the team.

I always read who these opinion writers are and 90% of the time you can tell who they are by what they write, but the bio info always makes it clear. It is all so familiar because it is party biolerplate. It sure isn’t journalism.

It really needs to be in the advertising section.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:32:31am

re: #375 Teukka

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:33:10am

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

This is good news for John McCain….

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And this is why I never watch or read CNN. Pure drivel.

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:33:11am

love him hate him, i dont care. (im not a fan myself)

this is my position. forget the politics, protect the country.

Andrew Sullivan: “To refuse to use the one weapon the Founders gave us to remove such a character from office is more than cowardice. It is complicity. It is a surrender to forces which aim to make the world safe for authoritarianism. It may not work. But if we acquiesce, pretend it isn’t happening, or look away, it cannot work. This disgusting man is not just a cancer in the presidency. His presidency is a cancer in our Constitution and way of life. How long do we let this metastasize even further? How long before we take a stand? Mueller has given us the roadmap. He has done his duty. Now it’s our turn to do ours: ‘to support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic.’”

“There is no qualification in that oath of citizenship.”

ps - dangerman at lgf on 3/23/19

I haven’t a clue what Mueller wrote. Guessing is folly especially since some release is imminent.

Still. I’m thinking it’s gonna be a road map of the past and an AAA triptik with highlighted routes for the future

once again, lgf was a month ahead. now everyone’s using ‘roadmap’

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:35:01am

re: #425 ObserverArt

President Obama should have ignored McConnell’s threats and warned the public about Russian interference. That’s one thing I will say at this point in time. McConnell knew about Russian interference and threatened that he would attack President Obama if it was revealed. That’s the real story.

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sagehen  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:37:20am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

Yeah I heard about that. I’m definitely worried that Brexit may have spurred the Troubles 2,0.

All of them on both sides are white, none of them are Muslim… however will the RWNJ’s explain it?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:37:50am

re: #429 Patricia Kayden

President Obama should have ignored McConnell’s threats and warned the public about Russian interference. That’s one thing I will say at this point in time. McConnell knew about Russian interference and threatened that he would attack President Obama if it was revealed. That’s the real story.

And this Jennings guy knows that. Yeah I think Obama should have said something too but I blame McConnell for threatening to cry foul if Obama said anything and the shit he had previously done with Garland. I’m really hoping the DSCC seriously targets McConnell in 2020. He needs a much deserved retirement and maybe some trips to court as a defendant in his future.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:38:39am

re: #430 sagehen

All of them on both sides are white, none of them are Muslim… however will the RWNJ’s explain it?

Man that’s tough because IRA Petey King will side with the Irish Republicans but the Fundies would be likely to side with the Unionists.

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Chrysicat  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:40:30am

re: #377 makeitstop

I’ll agree on #1. The Welch lineup never really did it for me, although Bare Trees was a damn fine record. I saw that lineup, back when Christine McVie was still Christine Perfect. I had a mad crush on that woman.

The Hit Machine FM would be #2 for me - the first two albums with that lineup, anyway. I think Warner Brothers could have taken that massive budget for Tusk and thrown it into the Pacific and done the world a favor. They totally lost me with that record.

So you’ve never heard anything after? I have a fondness for Tango in the Night, which is the other end of that lineup’s existence (well, the original one, since that’s also the lineup that got back together at Clinton’s request).

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:40:42am

re: #425 ObserverArt

It is the same thing as the opinion writers you see in the NY Times and WaPo. These big media entities put in opinion pieces so they can be seen as balanced. The problem is most conservative opinion writers anymore are just GOP talking points over and over. There really is no original point or opinion it in.

If you read editor’s note about Jennings attached to the article you see:

This guy obviously has a beef with Obama to cover for Mitch being Mitch, which is okay because Mitch is on the team.

I always read who these opinion writers are and 90% of the time you can tell who they are by what they write, but the bio info always makes it clear. It is all so familiar because it is party biolerplate. It sure isn’t journalism.

It really needs to be in the advertising section.

i kept the tweet from the original post but the cnn article i was referring to is a different one…byKatelyn Polantz

nevertheless - your point still stands

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:44:10am

Weeks since Report’s release: “I’ve been totally exonerated by Mueller! You can’t champion Mueller and not accept that I’ve been exonerated!”

Yesterday: “TOTALLY EXONERATED! Look on my GoT tweet and despair!”

Today: “THIS REPORT IS TOTAL BULLSHIT! NOBODY EVER SAID THOSE THINGS! IT’S ALL LIES WRITTEN UP BY THE EVIL DEMOCRATS!!! I DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:48:23am

re: #435 Targetpractice

I cannot begin to listen to this anymore. Not just the words coming from his piehole but the totally matter-of-fact manner in which it is reported.

And I although commentators like Seth Myers, Steven Colbert and Samantha Bee are the only ones I can watch on the subject, I do not find myself laughing at it, just shaking my head in disbelief.

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Chrysicat  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:48:37am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:48:49am

re: #435 Targetpractice

Told you this tweet would age well:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:50:40am

re: #435 Targetpractice

Updung for Ozymandias reference.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:51:08am

re: #434 Man, DangerMan

i kept the tweet from the original post but the cnn article i was referring to is a different one…byKatelyn Polantz

nevertheless - your point still stands

Yeah, again one was an opinion writer and one was an actual CNN journalist. Big difference. Thanks for pointing out the article she wrote.

I wish people were more clear about outside opinion versus house opinion and actual house journalism.

Should CNN be blamed for that Jennings BS? Only in they put it up as an opinion. But they did a good job when their own writer came to the conclusion the Mueller Report was clear about obstruction.

I think it good to check out as much as possible, but be aware of what you are reading/hearing/seeing and by who.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:51:32am

By the way, notice that the “response” that the White House promised Rudy was working on, giving them an excuse for looking over Barr’s shoulder at the Report, disappeared without a trace?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:51:56am

Some fucker brought donuts for all of us at work today. Lots of donuts.

Resistance Is Futile.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:54:02am

re: #410 ObserverArt

Happy and well adjusted humans with a moral compass don’t tend to be bullies. No need for it. IF you have those attributes. You know, for being the “greatest country in the history of ever” we sure seem to have a large number of angry, sad and lost souls among us.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:55:04am

One chuckle I’m getting out of this is the realization that Trump, because he’s functionally illiterate, never read the Mueller report, for all that he’s had it available since March, and just relied on the word of his staff, who have all been browbeaten into never giving him any bad news.

So, when he woke up yesterday morning, he probably thought this was all going to go really well for him.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:56:24am

Report this explicit mass murder threat.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 11:58:29am

re: #441 Targetpractice

By the way, notice that the “response” that the White House promised Rudy was working on, giving them an excuse for looking over Barr’s shoulder at the Report, disappeared without a trace?

I heard they decided to keep that powder dry.

They obviously thought The Bill Barr Show would be enough.

Oops. And those response points are already useless which means we’ll probably see them soon.

Next week is going to be hell for Trump. He has lost the Mueller narrative, he is having trouble with the border “emergency” that’s been going on for a couple months, North Korea is flippin’ him off…not good times. It’s going to make him real cranky.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:01:42pm

re: #445 goddamnedfrank

Report this explicit mass murder threat.

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Scratch a conservative Hollywood has been, find an autocrat wannabe.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:02:20pm

re: #442 Blind Frog Belly White

Some fucker brought donuts for all of us at work today. Lots of donuts.

Resistance Is Futile.

It’s a tough time to lose weight. We just got our annual Easter kielbasa and nutroll from my mom’s cousin.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:03:15pm

re: #444 Blind Frog Belly White

One chuckle I’m getting out of this is the realization that Trump, because he’s functionally illiterate, never read the Mueller report, for all that he’s had it available since March, and just relied on the word of his staff, who have all been browbeaten into never giving him any bad news.

So, when he woke up yesterday morning, he probably thought this was all going to go really well for him.

His staff: Your new suit of clothes look real fine Emperor Trump, the best suit in the empire…the rubes will be impressed.

Some little girl in the audience: “But his big orange butt is right there…he has no clothes on!”

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:09:36pm

re: #442 Blind Frog Belly White

Some fucker brought donuts for all of us at work today. Lots of donuts.

Resistance Is Futile.

Think about bike rides while you eat donuts. A lot of people get that backwards.

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:09:41pm

re: #433 Chrysicat

So you’ve never heard anything after? I have a fondness for Tango in the Night, which is the other end of that lineup’s existence (well, the original one, since that’s also the lineup that got back together at Clinton’s request).

I’ve heard it, but by that time I’d stopped paying close attention. ‘Little Lies’ is a really good song (Ms. Perfect/McVie again).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:11:11pm

re: #449 ObserverArt

His staff: Your new suit of clothes look real fine Emperor Trump, the best suit in the empire…the rubes will be impressed.

Some little girl in the audience: “But his big orange butt is right there…he has no clothes on!”

“Hugh Jass! I’m looking for a Hugh Jass!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:13:01pm

re: #450 wrenchwench

Think about bike rides while you eat donuts. A lot of people get that backwards.

To be fair, it is looking like a nice afternoon for a ride. I have my ‘bike togs’ (as Mrs. FBW calls them) with me, and the Bianchi is in the Dodge, waiting patiently.

And I already felt like it was a really long week YESTERDAY.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:16:46pm

re: #453 Blind Frog Belly White

To be fair, it is looking like a nice afternoon for a ride. I have my ‘bike togs’ (as Mrs. FBW calls them) with me, and the Bianchi is in the Dodge, waiting patiently.

And I already felt like it was a really long week YESTERDAY.

You can do both, simultaneously! Proper bike togs have those rear-mounted donut pockets in the upper tog..

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:17:35pm

re: #446 ObserverArt

I heard they decided to keep that powder dry.

They obviously thought The Bill Barr Show would be enough.

Oops. And those response points are already useless which means we’ll probably see them soon.

Next week is going to be hell for Trump. He has lost the Mueller narrative, he is having trouble with the border “emergency” that’s been going on for a couple months, North Korea is flippin’ him off…not good times. It’s going to make him real cranky.

as i like to keep repeating

his management style, whatever the hell it actually is, has racked up exactly zero wins.

(not including all the damage he’s caused)

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Man, DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:18:35pm

re: #448 HappyWarrior

It’s a tough time to lose weight. We just got our annual Easter kielbasa and nutroll from my mom’s cousin.

as a clueless heathen i have to ask, is that one thing or two?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:19:35pm

re: #454 wrenchwench

You can do both, simultaneously! Proper bike togs have those rear-mounted donut pockets in the upper tog..

But the glaze leaves them all sticky, and then your hands leave sticky spots on the bar tape and brake levers…..

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:22:55pm

re: #457 Blind Frog Belly White

But the glaze leaves them all sticky, and then your hands leave sticky spots on the bar tape and brake levers…..

Empanadas would work. It’s awkward to put in a request-for-next-time with most donut-bestowers though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:25:07pm

re: #458 wrenchwench

Empanadas would work. It’s awkward to put in a request-for-next-time with most donut-bestowers though.

I could eat a dozen of those donuts, easily. My office is much, much too close to the breakroom.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:27:24pm

re: #459 Blind Frog Belly White

I could eat a dozen of those donuts, easily. My office is much, much too close to the breakroom.

Long rides, with hills. Take lots of water.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:28:48pm

re: #460 wrenchwench

Long rides, with hills. Take lots of water.

Probably 16 rolling miles. Limited time between close of business and dusk.

Sunday, OTOH, is another matter.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:32:07pm

re: #461 Blind Frog Belly White

Probably 16 rolling miles. Limited time between close of business and dusk.

Sunday, OTOH, is another matter.

Eat the donuts. It’s the only way to sort of keep them until Sunday.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:34:00pm

re: #462 wrenchwench

Eat the donuts. It’s the only way to sort of keep them until Sunday.

Sunday, it’ll be Easter candy….

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:37:48pm

re: #463 Blind Frog Belly White

Sunday, it’ll be Easter candy….

Jelly beans are pocketable. Most sweet stuff has good toptube adhesive properties.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 20, 2019 • 1:54:36am

re: #455 Man, DangerMan

as i like to keep repeating

his management style, whatever the hell it actually is, has racked up exactly zero wins.

(not including all the damage he’s caused)

Seagull management. Swoop in, make a lot of noise, eat all the food, shit on everything, fly away. Seagull management.


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