The Bob Cesca Podcast: The Mueller Report

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

The Mueller Report — NSFW; It’s a special 90 minute edition of the show as we review the redacted Mueller Report; The Goth Ninjas are here; Jody Hamilton from the Sexy Liberal Podcast Network and TRex David Ferguson from the TRex Report Podcast; With music by Battle Tapes; and much more.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:06:09pm

Frank’s James Woods tweet to me shows the deep seated authoritarianism that is present within the Trump base’s mind. They would gladly outlaw any opposition to Trump if they could.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:08:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:09:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:12:24pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Either way, her schtick has appeal with the right. I definitely resent Bill Maher for berating left wing critics of her.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:14:15pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Frank’s James Woods tweet to me shows the deep seated authoritarianism that is present within the Trump base’s mind. They would gladly outlaw any opposition to Trump if they could.

All the while insisting they’re the Constitutionalists who value freedom and small government.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:14:36pm

Among the revelations from yesterday: Even with weeks of heads-up and foreknowledge, this slow-motion trainwreck of an administration totally botched the handling of the Report’s release. The only plausible explanation is that Donny’s aides were so scared shitless for their own asses that they lied to him about what was in the report (i.e. their own testimony to Mueller) and only fed him the parts that he wanted to hear.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:15:11pm
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:15:16pm

In other news the sky is blue and water is wet.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:15:25pm

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

All the while insisting they’re the Constitutionalists who value freedom and small government.

Yeah. It’s a sham.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:15:40pm

re: #8 DodgerFan1988

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In other news the sky is blue and water is wet.

No shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:16:27pm

re: #8 DodgerFan1988

She’s just realizing this?

Welcome to the party, pal.
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:16:40pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Yep. The Bernie Bros own part of this.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:17:12pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Another example of the thorough vetting practiced by the HR staff at the Sanders campaign.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:18:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:19:12pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

Another example of the thorough vetting practiced by the HR staff at the Sanders campaign.

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It frustrates me to no end that my friends who support Bernie can’t see his team and allies role in discrediting the investigation and the Seth Rich shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:20:41pm

Uploading because someone referenced it last thread. Fun fact: This clip is from the Simpsons 3rd season, which was all the way back in 1992.

Bart Prank Calls Moe - Hugh Jazz

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:20:43pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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I thought it odd that nobody had yet posted the end of that stream of consciousness. Perhaps an aide distracted him long enough to grab the phone.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:20:51pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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He doesn’t know what a hoax is. The Hitler Diaries were a hoax. That Russia interfered to his benefit possibly with his inner circle’s personal blessing is not.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:21:26pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Probably had to unexpectedly deal with an important matter of state….

His Big Mac and Fries arrived.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:21:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:22:03pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

His Big Mac and Fries arrived.

Long phone call with Vlad giving him instructions.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:23:04pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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Yay Potus is golfing with a drug addict who wonders why white supremacy has a bad name and spread Notre Dame conspiracies. //

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:24:49pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

His Big Mac and Fries arrived.

With a bucket of KFC!

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:25:09pm

If these goddamned Berners hate the party and the party faithful so much then run as an independent you damn political blood suckers.

You are independents anyway, right? You do nothing for the Democrats except suck out resources, only to attack that assistance.

And if you are as fucking red hot as you think you are then it should be no problem.

Get out! Stand on you own and good riddance, it would be good to not have to hear you piss and moan.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:26:46pm

re: #23 Joe Bacon 🌹

With a bucket of KFC!

I love his implicit assumption that all athletes have similarly lowbrow taste in food. “I know what kind of food you people like!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:27:17pm

re: #24 ObserverArt

If these goddamned Berners hate the party and the party faithful so much then run as an independent you damn political blood suckers.

You are independents anyway, right? You do nothing for the Democrats except suck out resources, only to attack that assistance.

And if you are as fucking red hot as you think you are then it should be no problem.

Get out! Stand on you own and good riddance, it would be good to not have to hear you piss and moan.

They trash the party all the time and yet arrogantly think they are our base. I’ll take the African Americans who vote for our candidates in good times and bad over the Bros any day.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:27:37pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Long phone call with Vlad giving him instructions.

“Donald! Donald! Stop telling me about your electoral college win, and pay attention!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:28:53pm

re: #27 Blind Frog Belly White

“Donald! Donald! Stop telling me about your electoral college win, and pay attention!”

I have a mental image of Vlad laughing with “Yes Donald your win was yuggge” and then turning to an aide and saying in Russian what a fool Trump is.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:29:29pm

When I remind a certain relative about the times he blew a gasket when Obama golfed he says it’s OK for Trump to golf because he’s a born again Christian.

He always ignores when I bring up about Trump paying Stormy $130K…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:30:11pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

I have a mental image of Vlad laughing with “Yes Donald your win was yuggge” and then turning to an aide and saying in Russian what a fool Trump is.

[Vlad rolls eyes theatrically to aide, mimes jerking off.]

“Yes, Donald, that was amazing! Now, about Ukraine….”

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:30:40pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon 🌹

When I remind a certain relative about the times he blew a gasket when Obama golfed he says it’s OK for Trump to golf because he’s a born again Christian.

He always ignores when I bring up about Trump paying Stormy $130K…

“Yeah, but Obama only had to be born again once.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:31:12pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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She’s my spirit Baba. :)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:32:22pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

[Vlad rolls eyes to aide, mimes jerking off.]

“Yes, Donald, that was amazing! Now, about Ukraine….”

“Ukraine? Why do you wanna talk about that Vladdy? I told you I’ll just call Ukraine ungrateful and it will be yours.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:36:03pm

Yeah, it’s pretty much confirmed that he didn’t read any of it, and took his aides’ word for how completely great the Mueller Report was for him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:36:49pm

re: #35 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, it’s pretty much confirmed that he didn’t read any of it, and took his aides’ word for how completely great the Mueller Report was for him.

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He’s never read before. Why change now.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:36:55pm

re: #35 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, it’s pretty much confirmed that he didn’t read any of it, and took his aides’ word for how completely great the Mueller Report was for him.

Entirely responding to what he’s hearing in the news.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:37:43pm

Watch out for people who take notes. Uh doctors, lawyers, hiring managers, etc all take notes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:37:44pm

Federal authorities announced Friday that a man named John Kless was arrested for leaving voicemails in the Washington, D.C. offices of Reps. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) and Sen. Corey Booker (D-NJ) earlier this week. In every voicemail, Kless spoke about his hatred for Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), whom, in the message he left on Tlaib’s voicemail, he said he wanted to “throw off the Empire State Building.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:38:14pm

re: #37 Belafon

Entirely responding to what he’s hearing in the news.

I bet he was furious when he found out that he really wasn’t cleared.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:46:25pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

I bet he was furious when he found out that he really wasn’t cleared.

Or that the only thing that saved his bacon was that his staff ignore his direct orders.

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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:47:03pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

I thought it odd that nobody had yet posted the end of that stream of consciousness. Perhaps an aide distracted him long enough to grab the phone.

He had to go play golf with Rush Limbaugh and some friends—hey, the guy is really busy.

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:47:44pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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how do you ‘illegally start a hoax”?

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:48:56pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Uploading because someone referenced it last thread. Fun fact: This clip is from the Simpsons 3rd season, which was all the way back in 1992.

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there used to be a piano bar around here called “Hugh Jorgan’s”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:49:09pm

re: #43 Man, DangerMan

how do you ‘illegally start a hoax”?

Yeah that was a weird statement.

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:49:15pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

I thought it odd that nobody had yet posted the end of that stream of consciousness. Perhaps an aide distracted him long enough to grab the phone.

probably house flies

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:51:42pm

re: #43 Man, DangerMan

how do you ‘illegally start a hoax”?

I think this is Trump’s Corollary to Nixon’s Law:

Nixon’s Law: If the President does it, that means it’s not illegal.

Trump’s Corollary: If the President doesn’t like it, it’s illegal.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:52:33pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

I think this is Trump’s Corollary of Nixon’s Law:

Nixon’s Law: If the President does it, that means it’s not illegal.

Trump’s Corollary: If the President doesn’t like it, it’s illegal.

Ha seems that way.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:53:42pm

He thinks no one has a right to investigate him because he thinks he won fair and square and even if were true, he’s not immune to investigations. Even Nixon wasn’t that arrogant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:54:38pm

re: #44 Man, DangerMan

there used to be a piano bar around here called “Hugh Jorgan’s”

Ha ha ha. That’s pretty good.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 12:58:44pm

I confess to a complete lack of surprise that the same folks who argued that Clinton should have been removed from office for lying in a deposition in a frivolous lawsuit are now arguing that you can’t obstruct justice if there’s no underlying crime.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:00:09pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

I confess to a complete lack of surprise that the same folks who argued that Clinton should have been removed from office for lying in a deposition in a frivolous lawsuit are now arguing that you can’t obstruct justice if there’s no underlying crime.

Why one of them is even the Vice President.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:01:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:03:44pm

re: #53 Patricia Kayden

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Mueller didn’t work for the Clinton campaign. You’re just a lying hack with no principles. You should be permanently unemployable after your stint with the orange shithead.

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plansbandc  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:07:31pm

Mittens needs to fuck off.

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:07:38pm

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:07:39pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

Or that the only thing that saved his bacon was that his staff ignore his direct orders.

Which shows how complete his disregard was for the office and the law.

He really did think he could do anything as president; as in the thought of every power hungry 10 year old brat that wants to show everyone they will get back at them when they get that power.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:09:10pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Wikipedia on the purse wielder.

A Woman Hitting a Neo-Nazi With Her Handbag (Swedish: Kvinnan med handväskan, lit. “The woman with the handbag”) is a photograph taken in Växjö, Sweden on 13 April 1985 by Hans Runesson. It depicts a 38-year-old woman hitting a marching neo-nazi with a handbag. The photograph was taken during a demonstration of the Nordic Reich Party supporters. It was published in the next day’s Dagens Nyheter and a day later in some British newspapers and sparked a discussion in Sweden about “violence unleashed against innocent demonstrators.”

Runesson’s photograph was selected as the Swedish Picture of the Year (Årets bild) 1985 and later as the Picture of the Century by the magazine Vi and the Photographic Historical Society of Sweden.[1]

The woman in the photograph is Danuta Danielsson (1947-1988) She was of Polish-Jewish origin and her mother had been in a German concentration camp during World War II.[1] The photograph and its publication caused Danielsson to seclude herself in her home, and in time she suffered a severe psychological crisis that eventually led her to end her life in 1988.

The name of the neo-Nazi hit by Danielsson was Seppo Seluska, a militant from the Nordic Reich Party. Later that year he was convicted of murder after torturing and murdering a homosexual Jewish man.

In 2014, the Swedish sculptor Susanna Arwin made a miniature statue of Danielsson based on the photograph.[2] There was an initiative to erect a life-size bronze version of Arwin’s statue in the city of Växjö,[3] but the project was blocked by local politicians of the Centre Party believing that such a statue might promote violence;[4] a city councillor also stated that one of Danielsson’s heirs had objected to her being remembered that way.[5][not in citation given]

The photograph was produced using gelatin silver process and editioned by gallerist Pelle Unger.[6] Twelve copies, three AP and three PP has been produced in the size 58 by 80 centimetres (23 in × 31 in) and price ranges between €3000-6000.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:10:18pm

re: #58 Eric The Fruit Bat

Wikipedia on the purse wielder.

Damn. Had no idea how her story ended. That sucks. She was brave.

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:10:28pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

He thinks no one has a right to investigate him because he thinks he won fair and square and even if were true, he’s not immune to investigations. Even Nixon wasn’t that arrogant.

let’s remind the current president of the united states how it works, in general:

- no one has an inherent right to not be accused
- no one has an inherent right to not be falsely accused
- if you are maliciously or frivolously accused, there are remedies, otherwise you defend yourself
- like the rest of us

- you prevent these problems by staying out of compromising situations
- after accusal - you have rights to recourse if the accusation was abusive. otherwise it’s the system at work
- no one has protection from vilification in the media - certainly not a politician
- us forming opinions from media ‘info’ is not the same as one’s obligation as a juror, nor does it reflect on the basic rights given to you by the system - ie you are still innocent till proven….

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:12:16pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

a day later in some British newspapers and sparked a discussion in Sweden about “violence unleashed against innocent demonstrators.”

Gee, I wonder who those Swedes were….

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:23:31pm
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:25:01pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

I really hate doing narrator voice on that guy, but…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:25:58pm

re: #61 Eric The Fruit Bat

Gee, I wonder who those Swedes were….

And the guy she hit later killed a gay Jewish man. Both sides.//

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:26:45pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

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That alone makes me glad Assenge was arrested. There’s something really evil about that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:27:41pm

re: #63 Belafon

I really hate doing narrator voice on that guy, but…

I had the exact same thought. Good on him to at least say the right thing though, even if the people who actually need to listen aren’t going to give a shit.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:29:11pm

And Hannity & the others who used Seth’s death to push CTs will never apologize or acknowledge they were wrong.

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Old Liberal  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:29:31pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon 🌹

When I remind a certain relative about the times he blew a gasket when Obama golfed he says it’s OK for Trump to golf because he’s a born again Christian.

He always ignores when I bring up about Trump paying Stormy $130K…

Do you know why being a born again christian makes it ok to golf? Cause I don’t get the connection

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:31:02pm

re: #68 Old Liberal

Do you know why being a born again christian makes it ok to golf? Cause I don’t get the connection

It’s not that being a Christian makes it ok to play golf. Obama was a Muslim, and therefore shouldn’t have been president.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:32:45pm

I should have brought up Seth in my page as an example of the power of disinformation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:33:09pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

I should have brought up Seth in my page as an example of the power of disinformation.

you can always add it

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:34:32pm

John Heilemann on Nicole Wallace was really deconstructing Trump. If any conservatives looked at the report the way Heilemann is, Trump would be impeached immediately.

But the real fun statement was Heilemann saying the “I’m fucked” statement is the single biggest admittance of guilt you can have. At that point Trump knew he was “fucked” because he knew how illegal he had already been up to the point of Mueller being put on the job. And then after that point it was all ass protecting at any cost as he knew he was done.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:34:45pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

you can always add it

I’m going to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:35:13pm

As TweetWatch winds through its eighth hour, there really should be a “Finish The Tweet” contest for creative pranksters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:38:25pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:39:53pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

And the guy she hit later killed a gay Jewish man. Both sides.//

You know that little thought game of “if you could have stopped Hitler?”

Yeah, that.

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:40:14pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

I should have brought up Seth in my page as an example of the power of disinformation.

new green deal = cows is another one

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:42:13pm

re: #77 Man, DangerMan

new green deal = cows is another one

Yeah that’s true. I was sticking with the 2016 election though. Or I’ll raise you what Representative Omar said about 9-11 and how people like Dan Crenshaw happily distorted what she said.

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:42:15pm

re: #72 ObserverArt

John Heilemann on Nicole Wallace was really deconstructing Trump. If any conservatives looked at the report the way Heilemann is, Trump would be impeached immediately.

But the real fun statement was Heilemann saying the “I’m fucked” statement is the single biggest admittance of guilt you can have. At that point Trump knew he was “fucked” because he knew how illegal he had already been up to the point of Mueller being put on the job. And then after that point it was all ass protecting at any cost as he knew he was done.

and now he’s conflating no indictment (yet) with “see i didnt do anything”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:44:00pm

re: #72 ObserverArt

John Heilemann on Nicole Wallace was really deconstructing Trump. If any conservatives looked at the report the way Heilemann is, Trump would be impeached immediately.

But the real fun statement was Heilemann saying the “I’m fucked” statement is the single biggest admittance of guilt you can have. At that point Trump knew he was “fucked” because he knew how illegal he had already been up to the point of Mueller being put on the job. And then after that point it was all ass protecting at any cost as he knew he was done.

I really understand why a lot of us don’t trust the Never Trump Conservatives but as I said last night and earlier, we’re going to have a post Trump right, I’d rather conservatives who see Trump what he is be at the forefront of that rather than people who think Mueller was out to get Trump. Joe Walsh ideologically is awful and I think he’s an awful person too but he sees Trump as a criminal.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:44:28pm

re: #79 Man, DangerMan

and now he’s conflating no indictment (yet) with “see i didnt do anything”

Shows how little he actually learned from the mobsters he was chummy with back in the day.

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:45:03pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ok, yes too cute

and still i’d like to say “no, we are not kidding you”. you said it enough times

sometimes i think people dont get what a phrase means

its a peeve

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Mike Lamb  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:45:17pm

re: #72 ObserverArt

John Heilemann on Nicole Wallace was really deconstructing Trump. If any conservatives looked at the report the way Heilemann is, Trump would be impeached immediately.

But the real fun statement was Heilemann saying the “I’m fucked” statement is the single biggest admittance of guilt you can have. At that point Trump knew he was “fucked” because he knew how illegal he had already been up to the point of Mueller being put on the job. And then after that point it was all ass protecting at any cost as he knew he was done.

The “I’m fucked” was clearly an admission of guilt. However, it could have been for items unrelated to the election and he might not have understood the limits on Mueller’s investigation. Trump is a criminal seven ways from Sunday and he probably thought he was boned on those crimes, but like his idiot family, he might not have understood the particular criminality of meeting with the Russians re: “dirt” on HRC.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:46:56pm

re: #83 Mike Lamb

The “I’m fucked” was clearly an admission of guilt. However, it could have been for items unrelated to the election and he might not have understood the limits on Mueller’s investigation. Trump is a criminal seven ways from Sunday and he probably thought he was boned on those crimes, but like his idiot family, he might not have understood the particular criminality of meeting with the Russians re: “dirt” on HRC.

I do think it’s certainly possible he doesn’t see what he did was wrong. As I said contrast what Trump’s team did with what Thomas Downey did when he got footage of GWB preparing to debate Gore in 2000.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:47:07pm

In which Duncan Hunter self owns hard…

This is just too, too perfect. Not one to be out-stunted by his ridiculous Republican colleagues pretending to watch the wall being built at the border (they weren’t and it wasn’t) indicted Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican, staged his own border fiasco. He staged his own “illegal” border crossing to show just how easy it was.

Except it wasn’t a border crossing, because he can’t cross the border. He’s been indicted for campaign finance violations and the terms of his parole mean he can’t leave the country. So when Hunter “eased himself over a railing in the video before proclaiming, ‘That’s how easy it is to cross the border in Yuma, Arizona,” he was actually stepping over a vehicle barrier that’s about 100 feet away from the actual border. The actual border at Yuma is the Colorado River.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:48:25pm

re: #85 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

In which Duncan Hunter self owns hard…

I was really hoping he would lose re-election.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:49:32pm

For all those that worry that the news media never use the word “lie” in anything they do; Nicole Wallace’s show today is a lie fest. I can’t count the number of times they have said Trump lied. Now they are saying Barr lied. Good times!

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:51:12pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

I do think it’s certainly possible he doesn’t see what he did was wrong. As I said contrast what Trump’s team did with what Thomas Downey did when he got footage of GWB preparing to debate Gore in 2000.

and i’ll repeat

- zero of these people thought to talk to the fbi about russia’s advances. they all thought it was fine and they could use it to their advantage
- zero of these people thought to talk to…anybody… when the president asked them to do something illegal and they knew that it was illegal. none of them quit, blew the whistle, nothing. they all protected their jobs and selves.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:53:13pm

re: #88 Man, DangerMan

and i’ll repeat

- zero of these people thought to talk to the fbi about russia’s advances. they all thought it was fine and they could use it to their advantage
- zero of these people thought to talk to…anybody… when the president asked them to do something illegal and they knew that it was illegal. none of them quit, blew the whistle, nothing. they all protected their jobs and selves.

You are of course 100% correct.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 1:54:14pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

For all those that worry that the news media never use the word “lie” in anything they do; Nicole Wallace’s show today is a lie fest. I can’t count the number of times they have said Trump lied. Now they are saying Barr lied. Good times!

And honestly this is where I disagree with AM. I think he thinks they only hate Trump because he makes conservatism look bad and maybe that is part of it but I think with some of these people, there’s a sincere disgust with what Trump has done to our country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:05:03pm

It took 8 hours…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:05:36pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

somebody remind him that Mueller made a profit on the investigation

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:06:03pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

It took 8 hours…

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He’s going to try show trials for the investigators.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:06:12pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

And honestly this is where I disagree with AM. I think he thinks they only hate Trump because he makes conservatism look bad and maybe that is part of it but I think with some of these people, there’s a sincere disgust with what Trump has done to our country.

Keep in mind that not everyone on Nicole’s show is a conservative. She has a nice variety of talking heads and uses a lot Times and WaPo people. Good group of prosecutor types too.

She is whatever she is, but she has been close enough to DC to understand how fucked up Trump is from a conservative viewpoint.

Overall, I think Nicole does a decent job of being fair and being more journalist/political commentator than Republican party person as she was.

I watch her because I find some of the points she makes differ from the others on MSNBC like Rachel and Lawrence. She is not a rabid right winger in my opinion.

By the way, Elizabeth Warren has called for impeachment. Talk of that is way up today.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:06:19pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

somebody remind him that Mueller made a profit on the investigation

That’s an inconvenient truth.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:06:50pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

DT needs his Executive Time. Things like this interfere with it. /half

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:08:46pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

It took 8 hours…

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“Spying or Treason”??
SRSLY, Donald?

I know that citing “projection” to explain many/most of Trump’s idiot tweets is a fairly stale trope by now, but this one really tops it…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:09:47pm

re: #94 ObserverArt

Keep in mind that not everyone on Nicole’s show is not a conservative. She has a nice variety of talking heads and uses a lot Times and WaPo people. Good group of prosecutor types too.

She is whatever she is, but she has been close enough to DC to understand how fucked up Trump is from a conservative viewpoint.

Overall, I think Nicole does a decent job of being fair and being more journalist/political commentator than Republican party person as she was.

I watch her because I find some of the points she makes differ from the others on MSNBC like Rachel and Lawrence. She is not a rabid right winger in my opinion.

By the way, Elizabeth Warren has called for impeachment. Talk of that is way up today.

Yeah she’s a former member of the GOP machinery but she’s alright with me. That doesn’t mean I agree with her ideologically or want her in the party but as I said, gonna need sane people in the post-Trump right and I’d rather her than someone like KAC. Warren is calling it for it you say though. That would make her the first candidate that has then I believe. I’m gonna be interested watching how a certain Vermonter handles that given his own benefit from the Russia games was in the report.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:11:22pm

re: #97 Jay C

“Spying or Treason”??
SRSLY, Donald?

I know that citing “projection” to explain many/most of Trump’s idiot tweets is a fairly stale trope by now, but this one really tops it…

I am telling you that if unrestrained he would gladly put Mueller on trial. I think that would be a bridge too far even for Barr but I’m sure teh usual suspects: Lumpy, Massie, Gaetz, Limbaugh, and others would go along with it. And I’m sure GG would be there to say it was justified in someway.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:11:36pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

That’s an inconvenient truth.

Especially since it came at the expense of his buddy.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:12:38pm

re: #100 Belafon

Especially since it came at the expense of his buddy.

Yep.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:13:40pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

It took 8 hours…

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So, these are the first words he types after returning from golfing with Rush Limbaugh:

“….big, fat, waste of time…”

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SteelPH  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:14:03pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

I am telling you that if unrestrained he would gladly put Mueller on trial. I think that would be a bridge too far even for Barr but I’m sure teh usual suspects: Lumpy, Massie, Gaetz, Limbaugh, and others would go along with it. And I’m sure GG would be there to say it was justified in someway.

If totally unrestrained, he would probably order executions.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:14:49pm

re: #103 SteelPH

If totally unrestrained, he would probably order executions.

Yeah. I see a lot of Stalin in Trump TBH except I will acknowledge that Stalin wasn’t a total dummy.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:15:28pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

So, these are the first words he types after returning from golfing with Rush Limbaugh:

“….big, fat, waste of time…”

Ha!

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EPR-radar  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:18:28pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

And honestly this is where I disagree with AM. I think he thinks they only hate Trump because he makes conservatism look bad and maybe that is part of it but I think with some of these people, there’s a sincere disgust with what Trump has done to our country.

Trump’s 2016 GOP primary campaign was basically a real-estate grab where Fox News only thought it had clear title to the pig-people.

So Trump is just a symptom of larger problems, and I have no patience for any never-Trump Republican who isn’t prepared to admit that Trump and Trumpism are monsters that Republicans have spent decades creating.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:19:27pm

re: #103 SteelPH

If totally unrestrained, he would probably order executions.

So: if the House does pass a resolution of impeachment, you think he’d try to pull a Cromwell, and send troops in to “adjourn” the Congress?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:19:28pm

I stand by my observation that he likes Kim Jong Un because he was impressed by how Kim deals with perceived disloyalty combined with Kim using the Swiss prep school charm.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:20:09pm

re: #106 EPR-radar

Trump’s 2016 GOP primary campaign was basically a real-estate grab where Fox News only thought it had clear title to the pig-people.

So Trump is just a symptom of larger problems, and I have no patience for any never-Trump Republican who isn’t prepared to admit that Trump and Trumpism are monsters that Republicans have spent decades creating.

I agree with that. I’m just saying. Better then than people who think Trump is great.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:21:20pm

re: #107 Jay C

So: if the House does pass a resolution of impeachment, you think he’d try to pull a Cromwell, and send troops in to “adjourn” the Congress?

I think he would try something if he felt his power was threatened. That’s why he needs to be impeached and then beaten resoundingly.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:21:37pm

Post the Mueller report part about Assange and Berniebots retort with this…and I block all of their asses and took the post off my page…

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:22:14pm

OH HAI! Just popping in for a short break during Passover preparation. My youngest daughter is here with her family (2 little girls & 1 husband)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:22:49pm

re: #107 Jay C

So: if the House does pass a resolution of impeachment, you think he’d try to pull a Cromwell, and send troops in to “adjourn” the Congress?

I put nothing past that evil SOB.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:23:22pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

I think he would try something if he felt his power was threatened. That’s why he needs to be impeached and then beaten resoundingly.

I would have preparations in place so that if he tries anything, he is met with an effect equivalent of J. Random gangsters expecting to make a big heist, only to be met by massive amounts of SWAT and Tac cops…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:23:30pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

Post the Mueller report part about Assange and Berniebots retort with this…and I block all of their asses and took the post off my page…

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As I said in my page, they’re culpable for a lot of this shit too because they were butthurt that more people preferred HRC over Bernie. They have a lot of ugly tendencies in them too. The same desire to punish those they disagree with.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:23:40pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

OH HAI! Just popping in for a short break during Passover preparation. My youngest daughter is here with her family (2 little girls & 1 husband)

Oh hai! Apparently I get to be The Guy In Charge (tm) of service operations for one of our church’s campuses on Easter Sunday. No pressure or anything.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:23:43pm

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

And a very Happy Passover to you and your family.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:24:00pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:24:15pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Cades Cove in the Smoky Mountains]

OMG. 4 cubs. That was a h*ck of a hibernation. Now for spring.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:24:30pm

re: #114 Teukka

I would have preparations in place so that if he tries anything, he is met with an effect equivalent of J. Random gangsters expecting to make a big heist, only to be met by massive amounts of SWAT and Tac cops…

Either way, this is going be the least smooth transition of power when he leaves office either in 2021, 2025, in cuffs, or in a bodybag.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:25:17pm

re: #106 EPR-radar

Trump’s 2016 GOP primary campaign was basically a real-estate grab where Fox News only thought it had clear title to the pig-people.

So Trump is just a symptom of larger problems, and I have no patience for any never-Trump Republican who isn’t prepared to admit that Trump and Trumpism are monsters that Republicans have spent decades creating.

To his credit, Rick Wilson has a chapter in his book where he does exactly that.

I do think that there were a surprisingly small number of genuine Conservatives (as they used to define Conservatism) on the Right, and a whole lot more whose primary motivations were race based.

For example, they all hate welfare, but the real Conservative hates it because they believe in self-reliance and small government. The rest? They hate it because black people get it, and they believe black people are lazy and shiftless.

Or on Foreign Policy, the real Conservatives believed the Iraq war would cause democracy to flower in the ME. The rest? They wanted to kill them some A-Rabs.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:25:23pm

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

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I wonder what her first clue was. //

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Old Liberal  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:25:50pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Yeah she’s a former member of the GOP machinery but she’s alright with me. That doesn’t mean I agree with her ideologically or want her in the party but as I said, gonna need sane people in the post-Trump right and I’d rather her than someone like KAC. Warren is calling it for it you say though. That would make her the first candidate that has then I believe. I’m gonna be interested watching how a certain Vermonter handles that given his own benefit from the Russia games was in the report.

I think everyone can benefit by stepping back and thinking about what a Republican was like in the 1960s. Rockefeller Dirksen. They thought Goldwater was a nut, in fact the whole country thought he was a nut. We may “always have conservatives” but there isn’t a single one now who is not a fucking reactionary either for real or for the votes. Not that it matters in the real world whether I accept it or not, if you are to the right of John Lindsey (look it up) you are part of the fucking problem and go fuck off. Climate change denying creationist pro christian anti atheist gun humping gay hating immigrant bashing minority demonizing forced pregnancy anti poverty helping tax slashing school privatizing anti-unión and I’m gonna forgive? You show me where in that list any of them are “Redeemed”. The party of Cheney Nixon Bush Reagan. Redemption my ass. This “conservative” shit is exactly why the country is a joke, education a disaster, we make war, let people get sick and die. Redemption? Fuck that.

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makeitstop  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:26:02pm

re: #107 Jay C

So: if the House does pass a resolution of impeachment, you think he’d try to pull a Cromwell, and send troops in to “adjourn” the Congress?

With Stephen Miller whispering in his ear, just about any atrocity is imaginable.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:26:17pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Either way, this is going be the least smooth transition of power when he leaves office either in 2021, 2025, in cuffs, or in a bodybag.

As much as I hate him, I honestly hope that doesn’t happen. Not just to see him suffer for his crimes, but because I don’t think it would go well for the country at this particular juncture if someone killed him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:26:22pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Either way, this is going be the least smooth transition of power when he leaves office either in 2021, 2025, in cuffs, or in a bodybag.

I wonder about that. For example, the Secret Service protect the President, not the person. If Trump is not the President, they’d likely be happy to kick him to the curb.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:27:39pm

re: #121 Blind Frog Belly White

To his credit, Rick Wilson has a chapter in his book where he does exactly that.

I do think that there were a surprisingly small number of genuine Conservatives (as they used to define Conservatism) on the Right, and a whole lot more whose primary motivations were race based.

For example, they all hate welfare, but the real Conservative hates it because they believe in self-reliance and small government. The rest? They hate it because black people get it, and they believe black people are lazy and shiftless.

Or on Foreign Policy, the real Conservatives believed the Iraq war would cause democracy to flower in the ME. The rest? They wanted to kill them some A-Rabs.

Yeah this.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:28:46pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Either way, this is going be the least smooth transition of power when he leaves office either in 2021, 2025, in cuffs, or in a bodybag.

My guess is in the 22 May to 11 Sep 2020 timeframe.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:29:10pm

In retrospect, it should be obvious that a forest of oaken beams, drying in the equivalent of a hot attic for 900 years, is unlikely to burn slowly.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:29:56pm

re: #123 Old Liberal

I think everyone can benefit by stepping back and thinking about what a Republican was like in the 1960s. Rockefeller Dirksen. They thought Goldwater was a nut, in fact the whole country thought he was a nut. We may “always have conservatives” but there isn’t a single one now who is not a fucking reactionary either for real or for the votes. Not that it matters in the real world whether I accept it or not, if you are to the right of John Lindsey (look it up) you are part of the fucking problem and go fuck off. Climate change denying creationist pro christian anti atheist gun humping gay hating immigrant bashing minority demonizing forced pregnancy anti poverty helping tax slashing school privatizing anti-unión and I’m gonna forgive? You show me where in that list any of them are “Redeemed”. The party of Cheney Nixon Bush Reagan. Redemption my ass. This “conservative” shit is exactly why the country is a joke, education a disaster, we make war, let people get sick and die. Redemption? Fuck that.

I don’t disagree with your take. I’m just saying I know there’s gonna be a post-Trump right and if it’s going to exist, I’d rather it be with people who have been critical of Trump rather than kiss his ass. I would love for the Rockefeller Republicans to make a comeback but they’re gone. It’s not about redemption for me. I’m not inviting these people to dinner or to help shape my ideology. I just want an opposition post Trump that acknowledges that Trump was a disaster for the country. We can hit them over the head on policy too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:30:51pm

re: #128 Teukka

My guess is in the 22 May to 11 Sep 2020 timeframe.

I’m going to get hammered when he’s officially gone.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:32:15pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

I wonder about that. For example, the Secret Service protect the President, not the person. If Trump is not the President, they’d likely be happy to kick him to the curb.

Yeah that is true. I don’t think he’d be able to do a coup if he had to leave office but I think he would do anything possible to make his successor’s life hell. The incoming next President should meet with the other former Presidents and give Trump the old cold shoulder.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:33:51pm

re: #125 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

As much as I hate him, I honestly hope that doesn’t happen. Not just to see him suffer for his crimes, but because I don’t think it would go well for the country at this particular juncture if someone killed him.

Oops I didn’t mean that as an implication of assassination, I meant bodybag as in death of natural causes and yeah I don’t want him dead either. I want him accountable to his crimes. I want him to hear it from a judge that he is a criminal who is one of the worst scoundrels in our country’s history. Plus him dying doesn’t solve anything. And the last thing I want is hi mto be a martyr.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:36:45pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

I wonder about that. For example, the Secret Service protect the President, not the person. If Trump is not the President, they’d likely be happy to kick him to the curb.

Actually,the agents’ personal opinions notwithstanding, former Presidents do get SS protection (I’m sure Trump would prefer a different “SS”, though). Though I don’t imagine it will be considered a prime assignment (except, maybe, for avid golf fans).

But yeah, the post-Trump transition is likely to be an astonishing shitshow, even by Donny’s standards.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:36:57pm

The best words is not “Donald Trump was pronounced dead.” The best words would be “Donald Trump lost his re-election in a landslide.” Or “Donald Trump has been indicated by the State of New York for crimes prior to and during his presidency.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:38:34pm

re: #134 Jay C

Actually,the agents’ personal opinions notwithstanding, former Presidents do get SS protection (I’m sure Trump would prefer a different “SS”, though). Though I don’t imagine it will be considered a prime assignment (except, maybe, for avid golf fans).

But yeah, the post-Trump transition is likely to be an astonishing shitshow, even by Donny’s standards.

That’s true, but if they had to protect the President from an Ex-President, I know where I’d put my money.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:40:32pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

The best words is not “Donald Trump was pronounced dead.” The best words would be “Donald Trump lost his re-election in a landslide.” Or “Donald Trump has been indicated by the State of New York for crimes prior to and during his presidency.”

Can you top “The election outcome is a given after stunning ‘hot mic’ incident involving Donald Trump and the GOP leaderhip and their subsequent incarceration.” ?

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Old Liberal  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:41:54pm

re: #123 Old Liberal

I think everyone can benefit by stepping back and thinking about what a Republican was like in the 1960s. Rockefeller Dirksen. They thought Goldwater was a nut, in fact the whole country thought he was a nut. We may “always have conservatives” but there isn’t a single one now who is not a fucking reactionary either for real or for the votes. Not that it matters in the real world whether I accept it or not, if you are to the right of John Lindsey (look it up) you are part of the fucking problem and go fuck off. Climate change denying creationist pro christian anti atheist gun humping gay hating immigrant bashing minority demonizing forced pregnancy anti poverty helping tax slashing school privatizing anti-unión and I’m gonna forgive? You show me where in that list any of them are “Redeemed”. The party of Cheney Nixon Bush Reagan. Redemption my ass. This “conservative” shit is exactly why the country is a joke, education a disaster, we make war, let people get sick and die. Redemption? Fuck that.

Left off science denying racist hypocritical liars

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:43:00pm

re: #137 Teukka

Can you top “The election outcome is a given after stunning ‘hot mic’ incident involving Donald Trump and the GOP leaderhip and their subsequent incarceration.” ?

Nah that’s pretty top notch.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:44:02pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:45:23pm

re: #140 Patricia Kayden

I am not surprised.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:46:03pm

NR….

This extraordinary pattern in the report brought to mind an incident from very early in the Trump era. On January 15 of 2017, a few days before Trump’s inauguration, the President-Elect was interviewed by the Washington Post, and when asked about health care he said his team would soon propose its own health-care reform—that it was worked out, and that it would not reduce coverage numbers but would cost less than Obamacare. The statement sent the little conservative health policy world into a frenzy: What was this plan? Who was working on it? What kinds of ideas was it based on? The barrage of group emails was soon ended, however, by a note from a member of Trump’s little policy circle, who would soon become a senior administration official. The message was simple: Trump had no idea what he was talking about, the proposal he mentioned was a figment of his imagination, and don’t worry about it—everything was under control.

This was simultaneously reassuring and alarming in the way that Mueller’s window into the administration is. It was evidence that there were people around the president who were doing the work required to govern and make decisions, but it was also evidence that the president was not at the center of that process, and that a significant amount of their work involved deciding when to ignore him. That pattern has of course repeated over and over in the two years that have followed.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:46:28pm

Someone posted this tweet the other day and I replied:

So someone responded to me, which called for a response:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:50:16pm

re: #143 Belafon

Someone posted this tweet the other day and I replied:

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These fucking people.

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SteelPH  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:50:20pm

re: #140 Patricia Kayden

Gaetz is nothing if not predictable.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:51:15pm

It’s so precious seeing right wing sexist homophobes act like they care about gay people and women.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:52:02pm

re: #140 Patricia Kayden

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Gaetz I guess was jealous of all the attention Steve King was getting for being the most pathetic piece of shit in Congress.

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DangerMan  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:52:08pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

NR….

This was simultaneously reassuring and alarming in the way that Mueller’s window into the administration is. It was evidence that there were people around the president who were doing the work required to govern and make decisions, but it was also evidence that the president was not at the center of that process, and that a significant amount of their work involved deciding when to ignore him. That pattern has of course repeated over and over in the two years that have followed.

we already know he never reads anything
he watches lots of tv
they made up a ludicrous story about his daily schedule
and he’s enraptured by house flies

there is no actual functioning president

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SteelPH  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:52:25pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

It’s so precious seeing right wing sexist homophobes act like they care about gay people and women.

The same people who are just fine with the “KIll the Gays” laws out there.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:54:06pm

As for Europeans. Christchurch was in New Zealand. By their own logic, the whites there are foreign invaders and indigenous people there should have a right to kill them.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:54:29pm

re: #149 SteelPH

The same people who are just fine with the “KIll the Gays” laws out there.

The same guys who love the transgender military ban.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:58:42pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

NR….

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Thank you for saving me the click I never would have made.

From your excerpt (if not whole thing) it looks like:

We have a crazy person in charge.

Crazy, yes. In charge, NO!

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 2:59:22pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

It took 8 hours…

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There’s that word again, “treason.” The man really does seem to believe he is so far above the law, just questioning his actions is tantamount to betraying the nation.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:00:35pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

There’s that word again, “treason.” The man really does seem to believe he is so far above the law, just questioning his actions is tantamount to betraying the nation.

I’d like someone to ask him what treason is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:00:53pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

There’s that word again, “treason.” The man really does seem to believe he is so far above the law, just questioning his actions is tantamount to betraying the nation.

I see he’s taking lessons straight from the Kim Jong Un school of leadership.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:03:08pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

I’d like someone to ask him what treason is.

I think like so much else, he’s simply trying to turn the words of his critics back on them without the least bit of understanding on why such were directed at him.

See also: “You’re the puppet!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:03:14pm

pathetic

and LOLOLOLOLOLOL:

he’s also retweeting a lot of asskissers, like this nonsense:

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:04:12pm

Rob Portman Ohio Republican Senator comments on Mueller report.

Let me preface with a hearty fuck you Rob, you weasel.

“The report confirms there was no conspiracy or collusion to violate the U.S. law between Russia and the Trump campaign,” Portman said in the statement. “Second, while the report documents a number of actions taken by the president or his associates that were inappropriate, the special counsel reached no conclusion on obstruction of justice. Attorney General Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein have concluded that the Special Counsel’s investigation did not include sufficient evidence to warrant any obstruction of justice charges.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:04:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:06:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:06:10pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

pathetic

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What a bunch of idiots.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:06:23pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you. That was beautiful. :)

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:06:48pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

Rob Portman Ohio Republican Senator comments on Mueller report.

Let me preface with a hearty fuck you Rob, you weasel.

Lie of omission: Mueller made clear he could make no call on that question because of standing DOJ policy concerning the indictment of a sitting president, felt the matter should be handled by Congress where there would be no question of a conflict of power. Much like Comey was criticized for doing, Barr took it upon himself to pass judgment that the evidence was insufficient to warrant prosecution.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:07:17pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

Rob Portman Ohio Republican Senator comments on Mueller report.

Let me preface with a hearty fuck you Rob, you weasel.

Hey Rob didn’t you vote to impeach Clinton over obstruction about an affair? So stfu.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:08:09pm

re: #156 Targetpractice

I think like so much else, he’s simply trying to turn the words of his critics back on them without the least bit of understanding on why such were directed at him.

See also: “You’re the puppet!”

Oh absolutely I’d just love to see him pressed on that detail.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:09:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:09:20pm

He didn’t wake anyone up. If anything, we have more evidence he obstructed justice than ever. He needs to go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:09:46pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:12:19pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Badge visibility:

‘Fugitive Recovery Agent’

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uncah91  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:12:30pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Thank you for saving me the click I never would have made.

From your excerpt (if not whole thing) it looks like:

We have a crazy person in charge.

Crazy, yes. In charge, NO!

The problem being that Trump actually does have the power of the Presidency, and the sane, competent, if coopted, people around him have been forced out.

So I am not comfited.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:12:40pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Michelle’s career was pretty much screwed by that fauxrage. And it pisses me off because she’s really funny and insightful. She was right.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:13:21pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Old Liberal  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:13:43pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If a US citizen was abducted by losers would a charge of kidnapping stick? Cause if it would I volunteer.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:14:29pm

re: #169 wrenchwench

Badge visibility:

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‘Fugitive Recovery Agent’

Yeah. There’s also the Bad Guys Be Gone Patrol.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:15:38pm

re: #173 Old Liberal

If a US citizen was abducted by losers would a charge of kidnapping stick? Cause if it would I volunteer.

I’d hope so. But I would hope that what they did would result in kidnapping charges already but I bet local Leo is sympathetic to this charade.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:16:06pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And the WHCA responded by not only prostrating themselves before him for having hurt Huckaboo’s feelings by hiring a comedian they knew would not be kind, but then overcompensated for the second time in the past 3 presidencies by foregoing a comedian this year in favor of a presidential historian.

For that, their reward was his snubbing them for the third straight year.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:16:31pm

So far it looks like the GOP is going to double down in their defense of Trump and trying to ignore the content of the Mueller Report. I can at this stage only hope that it bites them very hard in the ass in 2020 and a few elections after that as well.

I am also curious if the media circus starts to take the report seriously and possibly recover some standards of responsible journalism and reporting.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:17:03pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

And the WHCA responded by not only prostrating themselves before him for having hurt Huckaboo’s feelings by hiring a comedian they knew would not be kind, but then overcompensated for the second time in the past 3 presidencies by foregoing a comedian this year in favor of a presidential historian.

For that, their reward was his snubbing them for the third straight year.

Yeah the WHCA acted like a bunch of cowards.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:17:28pm

re: #177 Feline Fearless Leader

So far it looks like the GOP is going to double down in their defense of Trump and trying to ignore the content of the Mueller Report. I can at this stage only hope that it bites them very hard in the ass in 2020 and a few elections after that as well.

I am also curious if the media circus starts to take the report seriously and possibly recover some standards of responsible journalism and reporting.

We can only hope.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:17:36pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Lie of omission: Mueller made clear he could make no call on that question because of standing DOJ policy concerning the indictment of a sitting president, felt the matter should be handled by Congress where there would be no question of a conflict of power. Much like Comey was criticized for doing, Barr took it upon himself to pass judgment that the evidence was insufficient to warrant prosecution.

That’s why I called him a weasel.

He hangs no findings all on Mueller saying Mueller came to no conclusion and that is it. He knows Mueller said it wasn’t his job to make a conclusion and charges. Portman is just hiding in the wording for cover.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:19:22pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

That’s why I called him a weasel.

He hangs no findings all on Mueller saying Mueller came to no conclusion and that is it. He knows Mueller said it wasn’t his job to make a conclusion and charges. Portman is just hiding in the wording for cover.

When’s this shithead up for re-election? Maybe Tim Ryan should take him on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:19:52pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:20:32pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

That’s why I called him a weasel.

He hangs no findings all on Mueller saying Mueller came to no conclusion and that is it. He knows Mueller said it wasn’t his job to make a conclusion and charges. Portman is just hiding in the wording for cover.

They’re all doing that, leaning heavily upon Barr’s letter/presser. They just vary in the spin.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:20:33pm

re: #58 Eric The Fruit Bat

Wikipedia on the purse wielder.

Who didn’t se this coming?

The name of the neo-Nazi hit by Danielsson was Seppo Seluska, a militant from the Nordic Reich Party. Later that year he was convicted of murder after torturing and murdering a homosexual Jewish man.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:21:47pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

NR….

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For some reason, I’m also reading this as “Trump reallybdidnt have anything to do with the obstruction because he wasn’t making any real decisions.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:21:48pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

They’re all doing that, leaning heavily upon Barr’s letter/presser. They just vary in the spin.

Yeah and tbh I don’t see that ending well for them.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:22:23pm

re: #185 Belafon

For some reason, I’m also reading this as “Trump reallybdidnt have anything to do with the obstruction because he wasn’t making any real decisions.”

Reminds me of the Trump is too stupid defenses.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:24:23pm

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:24:57pm

I’m surprised this isn’t getting more comment here considering how many were calling to impeach yesterday. Liz may have just opened the door for others to come through. Pelosi is said to have told her to slow down. I am seeing others now supporting Warren by being favorable but cautious like Pelosi, but for sure a lot more “I” word.

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Targetpractice  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:25:37pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Yeah and tbh I don’t see that ending well for them.

They’re trying to insist that the matter is “closed,” but Barr has already planned for appearances before Congress and Mueller has been asked to appear either prior or following Barr’s appearance. There are ongoing investigations/trials that Barr used as an excuse for many of his redactions. And Donny is pressing Barr to come down on his enemies list, something that has a habit of backfiring as Nixon demonstrated.

All the insistence that the Report is an “ending” is absolutely ludicrous.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:27:27pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:28:17pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

When’s this shithead up for re-election? Maybe Tim Ryan should take him on.

Unfortunately he was reelected in 2016. So…2022. It sucks. He sucks. That is why I ride him so hard.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:28:41pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Nah, it wasn’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:37:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:38:34pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mind blown.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:38:46pm

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:40:49pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:41:53pm

re: #196 Dave In Austin

Nailed it.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:47:32pm

re: #197 Belafon

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:48:59pm
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:49:16pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2019 • 3:59:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:03:00pm

moron is askeert

ASKEERT

retweeted this:

then tweeted this:

they just can’t pick one outrage story and stick with it

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:03:33pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:08:47pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I agree with that. I’m just saying. Better then than people who think Trump is great.

I’m not so sure about that. Perhaps if the GOP goes all-in on Trump being their Eternal Dear Leader (a la North Korea), that might finally be too much for the media both-siderists that are propping up Republicans at every opportunity.

I don’t see the GOP reforming unless it suffers crushing losses in several elections in a row, and IMO those losses aren’t going to happen as long as the media holsters for Republicans.

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:11:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:15:57pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

I don’t disagree with your take. I’m just saying I know there’s gonna be a post-Trump right and if it’s going to exist, I’d rather it be with people who have been critical of Trump rather than kiss his ass. I would love for the Rockefeller Republicans to make a comeback but they’re gone. It’s not about redemption for me. I’m not inviting these people to dinner or to help shape my ideology. I just want an opposition post Trump that acknowledges that Trump was a disaster for the country. We can hit them over the head on policy too.

Name a Republican politician (not a journalist or Twitterati) who believes that.

There are none.

The closest I can come was my never-Trumper senator Ben Sasse, who came right out of the gate and opposed Trump in every newspaper in the state, and Lindsay Graham who said he would destroy the GOP.

They sure forgot that quick when Trump was nominated. They both went party over country.

re: #123 Old Liberal

Name a Republican politician who isn’t these things (not a journalist or Twitterati).

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:19:03pm

Footsy anyone?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:20:46pm

re: #208 Dave In Austin

Footsy anyone?

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What in the hell?

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Old Liberal  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:24:22pm

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹

Name a Republican politician (not a journalist or Twitterati) who believes that.

There are none.

The closest I can come was my never-Trumper senator Ben Sasse, who came right out of the gate and opposed Trump in every newspaper in the state, and Lindsay Graham who said he would destroy the GOP.

They sure forgot that quick when Trump was nominated. They both went party over country.

Name a Republican politician who isn’t these things (not a journalist or Twitterati).

That’s my point. There isn’t a decent one among them. I stand by that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:31:05pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

It was evidence that there were people around the president who were doing the work required to govern and make decisions, but it was also evidence that the president was not at the center of that process, and that a significant amount of their work involved deciding when to ignore him. That pattern has of course repeated over and over in the two years that have followed.

This is the very sort of President they set out to elect.

What was Grover Norquist’s comment about “as long as he can hold a pen and sign our legislation, we will do the rest”, or suchlike?

But this was a risky proposition, they did not reckon with such a completely loose cannon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:35:32pm

re: #188 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Daughter and I just binged through all of season 2 of Star Trek Discovery

Well done series all around.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:38:00pm

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is the very sort of President they set out to elect.

What was Grover Norquist’s comment about “as long as he can hold a pen and sign our legislation, we will do the rest”, or suchlike?

But this was a risky proposition, they did not reckon with such a completely loose cannon.

GOP delenda est.

There is a party which has ballot access in all fifty states, and supports the GOP claim of being fiscal conservatives: the Libertarian Party.

I don’t hold much in common with them (other than my wife who used to be an LP officer in Colorado).

Here in Nebraska, Republican state senator Laura Ebke said “oh hell no” when Trump was elected and switched parties to the LP. In the last election, she was reëlected.

Because of their presence in all fifty states, they could in theory take over the mantle of “conservative” from the GOP. I haven’t seen a whole bunch of GOPers flock to the LP.

Bill Weld went back to the GOP to challenge Trump in the primaries. Good luck with that.

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:38:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:41:13pm

re: #214 gocart mozart

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His dream was to be a Broadway impresario. Thanks, Broadway….

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:45:55pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

GOP delenda est.

There is a party which has ballot access in all fifty states, and supports the GOP claim of being fiscal conservatives: the Libertarian Party.

[…]

I have nothing good to say about the Libertarian Party, nor the philosophy, such as it might be. They both seem to be as vague as they can get away with.

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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:46:13pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Watch out for people who take notes. Uh doctors, lawyers, hiring managers, etc all take notes.

I was listening to either CNN or MSNBC briefly while driving today. Someone made the point that the craziest thing about the Mueller Report is that Trump has turned the traditional White House operations completely on its head. Normally WH staff are told “don’t take notes” because any time you right something down, it could be subject to subpoena. But because Trump was doing crimes and trying to do even more crimes, everyone was taking notes to cover their asses.

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:47:09pm

re: #208 Dave In Austin

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:47:30pm

re: #216 wrenchwench

I have nothing good to say about the Libertarian Party, nor the philosophy, such as it might be. They both seem to be as vague as they can get away with.

“Conservatism” is a very broad term which is defined in different ways by its supporters.

I cannot stand the Libertarian Party’s brand of conservatism any more than the GOP except they are less upset about gays and drugs than the Republicans.

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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:47:39pm

re: #55 plansbandc

Mittens needs to fuck off.

Not that I don’t agree with that general sentiment, but why now?

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:47:42pm

re: #217 KGxvi

Oh, hi. Good timing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:49:29pm

HAPPY PASSOVER (to those who celebrate it)
HAPPY EASTER (to those who celebrate it)
HAPPY WEEKEND (to everyone)

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A Mom Anon  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:54:44pm

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

Those are beautiful dishes. Wishing you and yours all the best.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:55:15pm

Wonkette writes a tribute to investigative journalist Lyra McKee, who was killed by a wingnut group of Irish Republicans in a shoot-out with the police in Northern Ireland.

Who Is (Was) Lyra McKee, And What The Bloody Hell Is Going On In Northern Ireland?

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:55:24pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:56:06pm

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Daughter and I just binged through all of season 2 of Star Trek Discovery

Well done series all around.

I agree, but don’t let any Star Trek:TOS purists hear you say that.

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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:57:59pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

GOP delenda est.

There is a party which has ballot access in all fifty states, and supports the GOP claim of being fiscal conservatives: the Libertarian Party.

I don’t hold much in common with them (other than my wife who used to be an LP officer in Colorado).

Here in Nebraska, Republican state senator Laura Ebke said “oh hell no” when Trump was elected and switched parties to the LP. In the last election, she was reëlected.

Because of their presence in all fifty states, they could in theory take over the mantle of “conservative” from the GOP. I haven’t seen a whole bunch of GOPers flock to the LP.

Bill Weld went back to the GOP to challenge Trump in the primaries. Good luck with that.

I don’t think the Libertarian Party as it currently exists can be much more than what it is. There’s too many social issues where conservatives and libertarians disagree (abortion, sex work, just to name a couple) for there to be any sort of long term coalition. And the LP as it currently exists is so far outside the mainstream on what the role of government should be in the 21st century that it would either have to fundamentally change or it would never gain mainstream votes.

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jaunte  Apr 19, 2019 • 4:58:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:03:55pm

re: #216 wrenchwench

I have nothing good to say about the Libertarian Party, nor the philosophy, such as it might be. They both seem to be as vague as they can get away with.

One of my senators (Rand Paul) and my congresscritter (Tom Massie) are Libertarians pretending to be Republicans, as are just about every member of the Liberty Caucus and Freedumb Caucus.

I can’t even bother to waste spit on any of them.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:03:58pm

re: #227 KGxvi

I don’t think the Libertarian Party as it currently exists can be much more than what it is. There’s too many social issues where conservatives and libertarians disagree (abortion, sex work, just to name a couple) for there to be any sort of long term coalition. And the LP as it currently exists is so far outside the mainstream on what the role of government should be in the 21st century that it would either have to fundamentally change or it would never gain mainstream votes.

I think the economic aspects of the LP lack appeal to the new generation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:05:03pm

re: #227 KGxvi

That’s probably right.

Sen. Ebke here is considerably left of her GOP colleagues in the Unicameral on many issues, so when Trump was nominated, it wasn’t hard for her to jump ship from the GOP.

There are an awful lot of Libertarian Party members who enjoy the party’s outsider status and are just fine with it.

Additionally, they say the Democratic Party is like herding cats. I watched the Libertarian party nominating convention in 2016. All I can say about that is “wow” (particularly the guy who went up on stage as a candidate party leader dancing in his underwear).

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KGxvi  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:07:14pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

I think the economic aspects of the LP lack appeal to the new generation.

Just looking at their official platform, I tend to agree. I’m fairly libertarian in my beliefs, but the Libertarian Party’s platform on economic issues is closer to anarchism than it is to what Hamilton would have called “ordered liberty.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:11:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:11:45pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:13:37pm

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

That’s probably right.

Sen. Ebke here is considerably left of her GOP colleagues in the Unicameral on many issues, so when Trump was nominated, it wasn’t hard for her to jump ship from the GOP.

There are an awful lot of Libertarian Party members who enjoy the party’s outsider status and are just fine with it.

Additionally, they say the Democratic Party is like herding cats. I watched the Libertarian party nominating convention in 2016. All I can say about that is “wow” (particularly the guy who went up on stage as a candidate party leader dancing in his underwear).

I guess this is 4 or 5 years old, but it’s the best thing Gary Johnson ever did. Including his time as governor of NM. It’s in the first minute:

Gary Johnson’s Weed Heart Attack: DESUS & MERO

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:16:56pm

re: #208 Dave In Austin

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg
NSFW below:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:16:57pm

*snerk*

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:18:05pm

re: #232 KGxvi

Libertarian economics basically deny that there’s coercive force inherent in monetary systems, which put them on the side of conservatism and with very little overlap with philosophical anarchists.

They’re “anarchist” strictly in the nihilist adolescent way.

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Teukka  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:19:05pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

*snerk*

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:19:53pm

re: #205 EPR-radar

I’m not so sure about that. Perhaps if the GOP goes all-in on Trump being their Eternal Dear Leader (a la North Korea), that might finally be too much for the media both-siderists that are propping up Republicans at every opportunity.

I don’t see the GOP reforming unless it suffers crushing losses in several elections in a row, and IMO those losses aren’t going to happen as long as the media holsters for Republicans.

Thing is though there are too many places in the country that will go GOP no matter what. I would love for the GOP to die but I see nothing to suggest it will. The best we can do is continue to outnumber them and force them to move to the center.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:23:34pm

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹

Name a Republican politician (not a journalist or Twitterati) who believes that.

There are none.

The closest I can come was my never-Trumper senator Ben Sasse, who came right out of the gate and opposed Trump in every newspaper in the state, and Lindsay Graham who said he would destroy the GOP.

They sure forgot that quick when Trump was nominated. They both went party over country.

Name a Republican politician who isn’t these things (not a journalist or Twitterati).

Gonna to AtD. I’m not talking about politicians. I’m hoping 2020 is a 1974 type situation where a lot of GOP incumbents are wiped out. I want Trump to have no pull whatsoever. I’m not saying these are good people. I just simply hope that the right that exists after Trump will not be as insane as it is now. I’ll never vote Republican but I want Trump to force the GOP as it stands now away from what it is. I also want some accountability.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:24:12pm

re: #232 KGxvi

Just looking at their official platform, I tend to agree. I’m fairly libertarian in my beliefs, but the Libertarian Party’s platform on economic issues is closer to anarchism than it is to what Hamilton would have called “ordered liberty.”

Their stated party principles are a real mess for sure.

They have things which would appeal to liberals (opposed to discrimination based on sex, gender, &c; keeping the government the hell out of a woman’s doctor’s office on abortion)

They have things which appeal to wingnuts (pro-II Amendment without regulation in any manner whatsoever)

They have things which would be opposed by most (get government out of marriage licenses, because who needs to regulate against incestuous marriages anyway).

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Old Liberal  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:26:21pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Thing is though there are too many places in the country that will go GOP no matter what. I would love for the GOP to die but I see nothing to suggest it will. The best we can do is continue to outnumber them and force them to move to the center.

If we overturn Citizens United, outlaw extreme gerrymandering and have meaningful campaign finance reform we have a chance at getting a less reactionary right. Not holding my breath.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:27:10pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

I think the economic aspects of the LP lack appeal to the new generation.

It depends. We have a lot of people who embraced Luap Nor. The problem with Libertarians is the same with dyed in the wool socialists. They don’t consider nuance and that not everything is economic. They can’t appreciate that states have legalized pot because all drugs aren’t legalized. It’s no different than that element of the left who think if you’re not for instant universal health care, you’re a neoliberal corporate shill.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:28:34pm

re: #236 Eric The Fruit Bat

NSFW below:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:28:53pm

re: #243 Old Liberal

If we overturn Citizens United, outlaw extreme gerrymandering and have meaningful campaign finance reform we have a chance at getting a less reactionary right. Not holding my breath.

I agree and so it’s clear. I think conservatives need to realize their problems existed long before Trump. I just want the post Trump right to be somewhat grounded in reality. So help me if Matt Gaetz advances in leadership.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:29:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:31:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:32:36pm

Given that there are well over 200,000 customers without power due to tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in the Carolinas, and severe weather continues there and in VA, MD, PA, WV…it should come as no surprise that Harris’ arrival is delayed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:32:37pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

It depends. We have a lot of people who embraced Luap Nor. The problem with Libertarians is the same with dyed in the wool socialists. They don’t consider nuance and that not everything is economic. They can’t appreciate that states have legalized pot because all drugs aren’t legalized. It’s no different than that element of the left who think if you’re not for instant universal health care, you’re a neoliberal corporate shill.

Who or what is Luap Nor?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:33:00pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kamala likes funk I know since OA posted a video of her talking about Bootsy Collins and I know she likes mid 90’s rap like Tupac and Biggie. I do like seeing what candidates like. Never impacts my vote but it’s cool to see what films, music, food, books they like.

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EPR-radar  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:33:07pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹

Who or what is Luap Nor?

Ron Paul spelled backward. I have no idea why this is a thing.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:33:12pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹

Who or what is Luap Nor?

Ron Paul :)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:33:56pm

re: #253 EPR-radar

Ron Paul spell backward. I have no idea why this is a thing.

Poking fun at how the libertarians treat him like a cult leader and Luap Nor sounds culty.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:34:31pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Given that there are well over 200,000 customers without power due to tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in the Carolinas, and severe weather continues there and in VA, MD, PA, WV…it should come as no surprise that Harris’ arrival is delayed.

Oh yeah. The baseball game in Baltimore was canceled hours ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:36:31pm

re: #253 EPR-radar

re: #254 HappyWarrior

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Thanks.

I could see Ron Paul as a cult leader.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:36:58pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Heavy weather is coming to Philly.
forecast.weather.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:37:07pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:38:25pm

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Poking fun at how the libertarians treat him like a cult leader and Luap Nor sounds culty.

And defeats searches so the cultists are less likely to find a reference to Him so they can offer corrections.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:38:47pm

re: #253 EPR-radar

Ron Paul spell backward. I have no idea why this is a thing.

I remember Republicans doing that in 1988 when Luap Nor bolted the GOP and ran as the Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:39:14pm

re: #258 PhillyPretzel

Heavy weather is coming to Philly.
forecast.weather.gov

I’ve been watching the radar around Greater Cincinnati…very weird circulation

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:42:56pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

The Libertarian Party has problems deeper than nuance.

It’s larded with kooks, racist kooks, and people get a thrill from the idea they’re smarter than conventional politics. It’s also the home of the people too insufferable to play the conservative game of “my personal benefit is actually morality if we don’t look at the details.” And there’s a standard array of people so narcissistic that they don’t really have an ideology regardless of what they say, except more naked and more admired than the equivalent camps anywhere else.

There’s also the individualist trip they’re all on which amounts to a palingenetic fantasy where if there weren’t “the rules” then the True Meritocracy would result in each on them being John Rockefeller or Immortan Joe. Which is why libertarianism is a pipeline to fascism—no seriously there’s so much damn crossover into racism and tribalism. Individualism as an ideology is self-defeating: eventually the need for affirmation creates groupings guided by aesthetics more than morals—each individual “individual” in a way that gains acknowledgement and praise from other “individuals”—and radical distinction from the outgroup of “not-individual-enoughs” feeds into a sense of tribe.

Not everything horseshoes out such that every position has the same issues.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:42:59pm

re: #243 Old Liberal

If we overturn Citizens United, outlaw extreme gerrymandering and have meaningful campaign finance reform we have a chance at getting a less reactionary right. Not holding my breath.

Holding your breath for those changes is an unequivocal death sentence. Please choose a different end-point.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:44:46pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹

Who or what is Luap Nor?

What is a fairly apt description. Read it right to left.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:44:53pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been watching the radar around Greater Cincinnati…very weird circulation

star.nesdis.noaa.gov

That’s a damn big frontal boundary.

Interesting satellite picture: The lights are on in eastern Nebraska but it’s still daylight on this side of the state. (You don’t see lights in satellite pictures at night on this side of the state because we outlawed lights or something. A picture at night here looks like North Korea.)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:45:09pm

re: #260 wrenchwench

And defeats searches so the cultists are less likely to find a reference to Him so they can offer corrections.

Needless to say Luap Dnar hasn’t had the same appeal.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:45:44pm

re: #263 The Ghost of Quesos Past

The Libertarian Party has problems deeper than nuance.

It’s larded with kooks, racist kooks, and people get a thrill from the idea they’re smarter than conventional politics. It’s also the home of the people too insufferable to play the conservative game of “my personal benefit is actually morality if we don’t look at the details.” And there’s a standard array of people so narcissistic that they don’t really have an ideology regardless of what they say, except more naked and more admired than the equivalent camps anywhere else.

There’s also the individualist trip they’re all on which amounts to a palingenetic fantasy where if there weren’t “the rules” then the True Meritocracy would result in each on them being John Rockefeller or Immortan Joe. Which is why libertarianism is a pipeline to fascism—no seriously there’s so much damn crossover into racism and tribalism. Individualism as an ideology is self-defeating: eventually the need for affirmation creates groupings guided by aesthetics more than morals—each individual “individual” in a way that gains acknowledgement and praise from other “individuals”—and radical distinction from the outgroup of “not-individual-enoughs” feeds into a sense of tribe.

Not everything horseshoes out such that every positions has the same issues.

Very true.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:47:04pm

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹

star.nesdis.noaa.gov

That’s a damn big frontal boundary.

Interesting satellite picture: The lights are on in eastern Nebraska but it’s still daylight on this side of the state. (You don’t see lights in satellite pictures at night on this side of the state because we outlawed lights or something. A picture at night here looks like North Korea.)

No people; only cows?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:48:32pm

re: #263 The Ghost of Quesos Past

LOL your nym.

The idea of near-absolute individual right to “contract” between individuals or businesses without regulation also opens the way for open discrimination in the public sphere against anyone you don’t like for any reason.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:49:35pm

re: #269 Colère Tueur de Lapin

No people; only cows?

Pretty much.

In this county we have 500,000 cows and less than 5,000 people. If the cows were armed we’d be doomed. (Cue “Cows with Guns.”)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:56:04pm

re: #271 Anymouse 🌹

“Cows with guns”

Cows With Guns - The Original Animation

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 5:58:19pm

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹

star.nesdis.noaa.gov

That’s a damn big frontal boundary.

It’s like we have a border weather wall in the Ohio River Valley…

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Interesting Times  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:03:53pm

Yes, THIS (why do so many people blindly regurgitate this moldy-oldy myth, anyway?)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:04:32pm
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:04:53pm

The thing is, the US right now cannot get rid of the GOP in the same way the Whigs went away. There’s no other place for the crazies to go, and an industrial party would need foot soldiers to vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:05:11pm
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:05:26pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:06:38pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:06:48pm
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:07:40pm

re: #280 teleskiguy

I was just about to post that.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:08:11pm

re: #280 teleskiguy

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Wasn’t Carter the morally clear candidate?

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:08:13pm
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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:10:51pm

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹

LOL your nym.

The idea of near-absolute individual right to “contract” between individuals or businesses without regulation also opens the way for open discrimination in the public sphere against anyone you don’t like for any reason.

The nickname is getting farther from it point of relevance but I’ll hang on until I think of something funnier.

There’s always this denial that power exists in forms more subtle than “bat to head” that underlies arguments…libertarian or conservative…that rely on the idea that everybody’s standing on the same level in a contract situation.

Yet at the same time, there’s this hunger for old-timey manly personal use of force as justice that suggest an ugly cultural thing that is below the surface of the ideological.

I’m kind of obsessed with it, but there’s a lot of what we attribute to the role of ideology in politics is in fact something semantically deeper. Like, the current moment is really about epistemology…”true” is determined how…and that seems to emanate from culture rather than a coherent belief system.

Maybe I’m just subconsciously justifying my social science classes.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:12:30pm

re: #143 Belafon

Someone posted this tweet the other day and I replied:

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One more reply. I’m shooting for blocking:

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Interesting Times  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:12:42pm

re: #274 Interesting Times

By the way, the comments on that tweet contain an excruciatingly sharp insight, something I’ve been thinking but couldn’t put into the right words:


To me, however, that makes it even more crucial to go forward with impeachment, if only as a way to reclaim what it was ORIGINALLY supposed to be for.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:15:31pm

re: #274 Interesting Times

Yes, THIS (why do so many people blindly regurgitate this moldy-oldy myth, anyway?)

[Embedded content]

Lawrence is a bit off in his recap, IMO: as I recall, the election closest to the Clinton impeachment was that of 1998; where the Gingrich-led House voted the articles of impeachment in a fit of pique in their lame-duck session in December, after basically going nowhere in the midterms (leaving the new Senate to judge in their next session in 1/1999).
IIRC, the GOP’s poor showing in the ‘98 midterms led to Newt’s flouncing off in a huff: the BFD impeachment stuff not proving quite the huge vote-getter (for the Repubs) he had led them to believe.
2000, though was another matter….

ADD: And what Al Petterson said as recapped in #286.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:18:56pm

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹

star.nesdis.noaa.gov

That’s a damn big frontal boundary.

Interesting satellite picture: The lights are on in eastern Nebraska but it’s still daylight on this side of the state. (You don’t see lights in satellite pictures at night on this side of the state because we outlawed lights or something. A picture at night here looks like North Korea.)

WaPo today:

How living on the wrong side of a time zone can be hazardous to your health

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:19:16pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:21:35pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:25:15pm

The Hill pretty much screwed up with this tweet. It’s “The Yard”
tinyurl.com

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:25:43pm

re: #286 Interesting Times

By the way, the comments on that tweet contain an excruciatingly sharp insight, something I’ve been thinking but couldn’t put into the right words:

[Embedded content]

To me, however, that makes it even more crucial to go forward with impeachment, if only as a way to reclaim what it was ORIGINALLY supposed to be for.

It will still be seen as a partisan maneuver by a lot of people, especially those that can’t tell the difference between the ACA and Obamacare.

Anecdote: We were discussing something at work, and the subject came up about having to make a decision on something barely seen. And the person brought up the ACA. I told the person a better example was the tax bill, not the ACA, since the ACA was debated for a year. They quickly changed the subject.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:26:33pm

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

Can I get some venture capital to establish a competing gender brand?

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:28:29pm

What would really help is if Mueller, in one of the House appearances, said that he thinks the president should be impeached. It would be even better if he said it without being prompted. That would remove the partisan nature for a lot of people.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:30:49pm

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Interesting Times  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:31:18pm

re: #292 Belafon

It will still be seen as a partisan maneuver by a lot of people, especially those that can’t tell the difference between the ACA and Obamacare.

You mean those who don’t realize they’re the exact same thing? They were never going to vote for Dems anyway (no, really - the GOP’s got a lock on Dumbfuck-Americans because durr hurr we blame brown people)

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nowherenorth2  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:32:34pm

re: #295 teleskiguy

Damn right she did

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:35:12pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹

Who or what is Luap Nor?

Rand’s father.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:36:30pm

They don’t want to tweet that it’s Bill Weld. Then everyone would think of his Libertarian run where he seemed stoned during every interview

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:39:37pm
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jaunte  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:40:02pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:42:53pm
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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:47:42pm
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:48:43pm

re: #301 jaunte

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Nope. I only worry about discouraging the 70% of Democratic voters that don’t catch every piece of news, some of whom could easily get discouraged if things go 2016.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:49:24pm

re: #303 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

KRON news. *giggle*

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:49:58pm

re: #303 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

[Embedded content]

Is anyone selling merchandise? Not weed but t-shirts, caps, snacks? Is there a 4/20 Oreo lineup.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:51:30pm

So sickened he’ll approve all of his judicial nominations

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:52:07pm

re: #274 Interesting Times

Yes, THIS (why do so many people blindly regurgitate this moldy-oldy myth, anyway?)

The Republicans controlled the House under Clinton. They lost two seats in the following election (2000), insufficient to flip the House.

In the Senate, the Democrats were in the minority. They gained 4 seats, making a 50-50 split.

In the Presidential election, we now know Al Gore won the popular vote over George Bush. Florida’s hanging chads, stopped recount by the Supreme Court after the Brooks Brothers riot sparked by Roger Stone, and the nature of the electoral college meant Bush won.

The Republicans were hurt in the House and Senate, just insufficiently to flip the House.

As for impeachment itself, I’ve come round to the idea that if the evidence warrants, impeachment should go forward in the House. Hold public hearings the same as was done in Watergate. Make the Senate GOP own not voting to remove when they face a 2020 map as bad as ours was last year.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:53:40pm

My first 4/20 proper was a year after Columbine, in Minturn, CO. There was about thirty of us in the riverside park. Right at 4:20 p.m. everybody started smoking, myself included. There were two sheriff’s deputies and one officer from town about two blocks away, they stayed away.

Man, that cloud of smoke that rose from the park. It was something to see.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:55:24pm

re: #309 teleskiguy

My first 4/20 proper was a year after Columbine, in Minturn, CO. There was about thirty of us in the riverside park. Right at 4:20 p.m. everybody started smoking, myself included. There were two sheriff’s deputies and one officer from town about two blocks away, they stayed away.

Man, that cloud of smoke that rose from the park. It was something to see.

Blow south wind, blow. /s Contact high for all of the Nebraska Panhandle.

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austin_blue  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:56:30pm

The are a bunch more R’s running for re-election to the Senate in 2020 than there are D’s.

Dear Dems in the House:

Just impeach the Motherfucker for obstruction and send it to the Senate where those old white men will have to own it to the voters in 2020. Don’t waste time. Do it now.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2019 • 6:57:43pm

Carl’s Jr. is selling a CBD burger tomorrow in one location in Denver.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:02:04pm

re: #286 Interesting Times

By the way, the comments on that tweet contain an excruciatingly sharp insight, something I’ve been thinking but couldn’t put into the right words:

[Embedded content]

To me, however, that makes it even more crucial to go forward with impeachment, if only as a way to reclaim what it was ORIGINALLY supposed to be for.

Amen. Preach it, brother. (Who says they get to control all the narratives?)

Also, moral clarity.

314
Belafon  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:02:44pm

I’m on board with impeachment if it hits around October or November.

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TedStriker  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:07:21pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of my senators (Rand Paul) and my congresscritter (Tom Massie) are Libertarians pretending to be Republicans, as are just about every member of the Liberty Caucus and Freedumb Caucus.

I can’t even bother to waste spit on any of them.

Indiana Jones: Care to wet your whistle Marcus?

316
Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:08:26pm

re: #306 Belafon

Is anyone selling merchandise? Not weed but t-shirts, caps, snacks? Is there a 4/20 Oreo lineup.

usually just dispensary name brand shirts and hats.

317
A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:12:10pm

re: #314 Belafon

I’m on board with impeachment if it hits around October or November.

It’ll take a while to draw up articles of impeachment. If I recall correctly, it took the Committee a few months the last real (i. e. Nixon) time it was done.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:12:14pm

US Marine arrested for the North Korean embassy raid in Madrid.
bbc.com

Christopher Ahn will reportedly appear in a Los Angeles court.

It would be the first arrest over the incident, which happened in February days before US President Donald Trump met North Korea’s Kim Jong Un in Vietnam.

Free Joseon, a self-styled human rights group, says it was involved.

US federal agents have also raided the apartment of Adrian Hong, one of the group’s leaders, says the Washington Post.

The US Justice Department did not immediately respond to requests for comment from the BBC.

In a statement, Free Joseon said it was “dismayed” by arrest warrants being executed.

(more)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:18:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:18:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:21:57pm

In post-storm analysis, NOAA has upgraded Hurricane Michael to Category V.

noaa.gov

Analysis of data unavailable during forecasting as the storm approached Florida indicates the landfalling winds were 160 mph.

That makes Michael the fourth Category V storm to hit the USA since accurate records began. The others were Andrew, Camille, and the Labor Day storm of 1935.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:23:07pm

I have a tabby-point Siamese (or whatever they’re called) but he’s not nearly so Siamese looking. Mine’s more of a domestic shorthair tabby-mese.

He’s shy.

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retired cynic  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:37:44pm

re: #322 wrenchwench

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I have a tabby-point Siamese (or whatever they’re called) but he’s not nearly so Siamese looking. Mine’s more of a domestic shorthair tabby-mese.

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He’s shy.

Also powerful. Killed the thread and pulled it under his rug.

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wrenchwench  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:39:56pm

re: #323 retired cynic

Also powerful. Killed the thread and pulled it under his rug.

He loves killing threads. The ones in the couch are his favorites.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:41:00pm

In the Turpin family children torture case, the parents have been convicted after pleading guilty.

Most of the children say they still love their parents despite the torture. The parents have been sentenced to life imprisonment. They have thirteen children.

bbc.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:44:05pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

The irony of bill old riley comment on his perceived narcissism of the millennial crowd. As he pontificates from his monument to himself in his den.

327
retired cynic  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:45:28pm

re: #325 Anymouse 🌹

I heard one girl interviewed on NPR. She said her parents took her life from her, but she had gotten it back, was in college, and was now stronger for the experience. Listening to her, I could swear she was 12. There are more problems ahead for those kids, I fear.

328
Jay C  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:50:10pm

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹

US Marine arrested for the North Korean embassy raid in Madrid.
bbc.com

(more)

How did I miss this? I would have thought that sort of attack on a Nork embassy would have made some sort of headlines here. Or was I just spending too much time on LGF to notice?

I can easily understand any arrestees not wanting to be sent to North Korea (definitely a one-way journey), but wouldn’t this be an issue for the Spanish, not the US, to prosecute?

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retired cynic  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:52:24pm

re: #328 Jay C

It was on here, I remember seeing several posts about it. In the Age Of Trump, horrendous things emerge from the waves and sink back before you can grasp them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:52:49pm

re: #328 Jay C

How did I miss this? I would have thought that sort of attack on a Nork embassy would have made some sort of headlines here. Or was I just spending too much time on LGF to notice?

I can easily understand any arrestees not wanting to be sent to North Korea (definitely a one-way journey), but wouldn’t this be an issue for the Spanish to prosecute?

It did make headlines here at the time.

I’m not sure why the Marine is being prosecuted in the USA. Others are thought to be in the USA; Spain is seeking extradition for those persons.

nytimes.com (North Korea called the embassy raid a terrorist attack.)

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freetoken  Apr 19, 2019 • 7:53:20pm

re: #328 Jay C

A great many things happen on any given day… that just get lost in the American media noise machine.

Trump and his infantile ego has caused a great narrowing in American public discourse, with everyone consumed on fighting against the never ending trauma that Trump’s ugliness is causing.

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freetoken  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:04:00pm

I should know better than to look at real estate listings around San Diego county… it just makes me so sad to see how short-sighted and empty so much of what comprises real estate sales is. Perhaps it’s always been that way.

But the current, and very extremely short sighted, idea of selling a “home” is all about “curb appeal”.

This is a gimmick, a way to make buyers into marks.

Substantially, owning a house, or any property, is a burden with recurring costs. Not just obvious costs (e.g., taxes and maintenance) but very real but silent costs, such as how we structure our society, and how we live every day.

The big thing among real estate flippers has been for a few years now, here anyway, about tearing out living things (trees, shrubbery) and putting down pavers. There is usually a token palm (which again I stress are not trees) to sell San Diego as somehow an exotic paradise. Palms are used because they are relatively low maintenance, so lazy home owners don’t have to spend any effort in maintaining the property.

The entire San Diego real estate scene has been for 50 years now about flipping property as fast as possible while doing the least amount. There is no tomorrow, much less a next decade or next century. All that matters is finding a mark who thinks 10 square yards for new sod and a palm makes for “landscaping”.

The new sod will turn brown and die (San Diego climate is not a good fit for most grasses used for yards) unless one dedicates a great deal of effort and water. Palms are useless and get to be quite ugly as they grow tall into sticks.

This is the legacy of the 20th century - we are becoming increasingly disconnected from the world of living things. All that matters is being programmed by Madison Ave into eternal consumers.

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retired cynic  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:12:15pm

re: #332 freetoken

It’s a different world out here in my section of the boonies. Thank heavens. Or I would be on the street….

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TedStriker  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:17:50pm

re: #330 Anymouse 🌹

It did make headlines here at the time.

I’m not sure why the Marine is being prosecuted in the USA. Others are thought to be in the USA; Spain is seeking extradition for those persons.

nytimes.com (North Korea called the embassy raid a terrorist attack.)

Seems like a moot point as far as that Marine is concerned, because his ass is subject to the UCMJ, and I can’t see the Spaniards being much more strict with a potential trial and prison sentence on this, though there is something to be said for Spain’s sovereign rights to try him; in any case, he’ll likely be breaking big rocks into progressively smaller rocks at Leavenworth for a very, very long time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:22:02pm

re: #333 retired cynic

It’s a different world out here in my section of the boonies. Thank heavens. Or I would be on the street….

Same in my section of the boonies.

Palm trees aren’t really a good fit for our climate (duh).

A lot of landscaping here is xeroscaping, due to the extremely dry conditions. There are people who put in non-native turf lawns and spend exorbitant amounts of money on water (and bitch at me over the town’s water pricing, over which I have no control and is extremely low anyway).

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:22:36pm
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freetoken  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:33:07pm

Yuutoobe just offered up a suggestion for me (is Google snooping on LGF?):

Why Millennials Love Their Houseplant Jungles | Annals Of Obsession | The New Yorker

I don’t know why The New Yorker seems to think gardening (in this case indoor) obsession is a new thing.

Maybe the young writers/editors are amazed that there are other living things in this world?

Unboxing videos are somewhat popular on Youtube, as far as gardening/horticulture. I’ve watched some orchid-centric channels and unboxing is a big thing. I don’t really know why, but it is.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:41:25pm
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Chrysicat  Apr 19, 2019 • 8:43:52pm
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Old Liberal  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:10:47am

re: #314 Belafon

I’m on board with impeachment if it hits around October or November.

I’d like to see the SDNY and NYAG cases come to light. Fuel for the fire. Money laundering tax evasion fraud


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Jack Klatt - Highway Lines (Live at Radio Heartland)Jack Klatt performs 'Highway Lines' from his 2019 album, 'It Ain't The Same,' live in the studio of Radio Heartland at The Current.
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Brittany Howard Performing ‘13th Century Metal’ Live on KCRW Brittany Howard's solo debut album Jaime puts her powerhouse vocals on full display. It also takes us front and center to her very personal journey of loss, love and self-discovery. We're thrilled to welcome her back to KCRW to ...
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(15) Rodrigo Y Gabriela - Electric Soul (Live on KEXP) kexp.org presents Rodrigo y Gabriela performing "Electric Soul" live in the KEXP gathering space. Recorded July 14, 2019. Host: Stevie ZoomAudio Engineers: Kessiah Gordon & Kevin SuggsAudio Mixer: David MarchantCameras: Jim Beckmann, Alaia D'Alessandro, Luke Knecht & Justin WIlmoreEditor: ...
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Fresh Air (Remastered) Quicksilver Messenger Service Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group Fresh Air (Remastered) · Quicksilver Messenger Service Classic Masters ℗ 2001 Capitol Records, LLC Released on: 2007-01-01 Producer: Quicksilver Messenger ServiceStudio Personnel, Mastering Engineer: Robert VosgienComposer: Jesse Oris Farrow Auto-generated by YouTube. ...
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Jon Anderson - Song of SevenFrom the 1980 album "Song of Seven".
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 191006 Today we have to take a few steps back in explanation. The pond is going to have three levels. Sort of an upside down ziggurat. The lowest level, in the center we call ‘the channel’. After the liner is ...
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Jon Anderson - Change We MustFrom the 1994 album "Change We Must".
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