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For long-standing reasons we won’t go into here, I have a sort of understandable aversion to gingers with lots of facial hair, but hey, this guy can play. Watch out for the dissonance.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:01:47pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:04:13pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

WTFITS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:06:38pm

Hard pass…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:09:15pm

From the previous thread on Washington state rep Matt Shea:

re: #329 DodgerFan1988

But but it’s Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and the Democrats are the real terrorists!

That was the guy who put out a pamphlet in eastern Washington on how to start a religious war in the USA to kill Muslims, Jews, atheists, and other non-Christian religious believers to bring about a Christian State.

Don’t dare ever tell them they are just like Daesh supporters though. Old Testament law interpreted by fundamentalists is totally different than Sharia law interpreted by fundamentalists.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:11:13pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

Every time I see this take on a “Christian State” from a Christian, it makes me want to break their bones one at a time. Jesus EXPLICITLY STATES that He didn’t come to set up an earthly kingdom. So why in the EVER-LOVING FUCK do these people persist in trying to do so?

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:15:14pm
A New Mexico man belonging to an armed group that has detained Central American families near the U.S.-Mexico border was arrested Saturday in a border community on a criminal complaint accusing him of being a felon in possession of firearms and ammunition, authorities said.

The FBI said in a statement it arrested 69-year-old Larry Mitchell Hopkins in Sunland Park with the assistance of local police. New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas said in a separate statement that Hopkins was a member of the group that had stopped migrants.

[…]

The other 3 need to be arrested, too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:17:28pm

From the previous thread:

re: #180 wrenchwench

What about a strategy of including suicide in each discussion about guns? The availability of guns is one of the greatest dangers to anybody who ponders it. It can be very difficult to talk about around those already traumatized by guns, because of the power of inadvertent suggestion. Dangerous to do, and dangerous to NOT do.

I’ve heard plenty of conservatives bat that one away with “well, if someone wants to kill themselves they’ll find another way to do it.”

If you narrow it to just veteran suicide it becomes “well, we need to give veterans more support” (then they vote for Republicans who do the opposite of that).

I’ve had that conversation in person with people here. Those are always the two answers.

But liberals are the brainwashed parrots who engage in groupthink.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:24:37pm

From the last thread:
re: #206 HappyWarrior

What I find amazing is he’s so obviously uninterested in being President for all Americans. He legit views half of us as his enemies. And that’s not a vibe I got from the Bush administration. Yeah they were very dismissive towards critics but I don’t think W viewed us as adversaries.

He exactly did, and said it on television more than once. “You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorists.” Maybe you were speaking of a different Bush?

Reagan before he went into surgery after he was shot: “I hope you’re all Republicans.”

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Either With Us Or With The Terrorists - Bush

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:26:21pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

From the last thread:

He exactly did, and said it on television more than once. “You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorists.” Maybe you were speaking of a different Bush?

Reagan before he went into surgery after he was shot: “I hope you’re all Republicans.”

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Republicans have been building the “us vs. them” mentality for over a generation. It’s very intentional.

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:33:34pm
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jaunte  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:34:46pm

“…Border Patrol is not supposed to interact with border vigilantes, but has been documented doing so. A Mother Jones reporter who embedded with a border militia in 2016 witnessed the group getting information from Border Patrol agents.”

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:36:28pm

re: #11 jaunte

“…Border Patrol is not supposed to interact with border vigilantes, but has been documented doing so. A Mother Jones reporter who embedded with a border militia in 2016 witnessed the group getting information from Border Patrol agents.”

The crisis on the border is coming from the inside.

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:37:08pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Gangster administration.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:38:48pm

From the last thread:

re: #350 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another mid-century food atrocity. Edwards hosted Truth or Consequences on radio from 1940 to ‘57. This probably dates from the latter part of that period, when tuna and mushroom soup were all the rage in contrived suburban cooking. At least there’s no jello in it.

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Hey, that looks pretty good. My wife’s going to try making it, and I’ll let you know how it came out.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:39:11pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:41:38pm

These guys aren’t as fast as the hamster with spaghetti, but I’m pretty sure the hamster was ‘cheating’ with those oversized cheek pouches. Guinea pigs don’t have those.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:41:45pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:41:53pm

Karl Rove looked at Sanders performance on Fox, and thinks Trump may actually have something to worry about should he come out of the Thunderdome: Republican Strategist Karl Rove says Bernie Sanders could beat Trump in 2020

Republican strategist Karl Rove, the man behind both of George W. Bush’s successful presidential campaigns, thinks Democratic contender Bernie Sanders could beat Donald Trump in 2020 to become the next president.

After watching the Vermont senator’s Monday Fox News town hall, Rove complimented Sanders on Fox and Friends Friday, saying participating in the event was a “smart move on his part.” He was also impressed with the response Sanders got, saying, “Bernie comes on to Fox, and gets the largest viewership of any campaign event thus far.”

Rove’s appearance on Fox News followed an editorial he wrote for the Wall Street Journal, in which the former White House deputy chief-of-staff argued Sanders proved himself a “serious contender” during the town hall because of how he directly answered questions — from both the moderators and the audience — about his tax returns, health care, and his electability in the large field of Democratic candidates vying for their party’s nomination.

Sanders also won over his audience. When the moderators asked the town hall’s participants to raise their hands if they were in favor of Medicare for all, something President Trump has criticized, and a fair number of audience members raised their hands hands, cheering loudly. This visibly surprised the Fox News anchors.

This reaction, and Sanders’ performance overall, has Rove thinking Trump needs to keep an eye on Sanders.

After seeing his performance Monday, Rove doesn’t believe the Democratic primary will work in the same way it did in the last election. In his Wall Street Journal piece, Rove said beating Sanders by attacking his democratic socialist views “won’t be as easy as Republicans may think.”

And according to the strategist, Sanders is increasingly on the minds of Trump campaign officials. “Some of the Trump campaign people said ‘You know what? We’re paying attention to this guy,” Rove said. “We’ve got to take him seriously.’”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:43:30pm

re: #18 Eric The Fruit Bat

Karl Rove looked at Sanders performance on Fox, and thinks Trump may actually have something to worry about should he come out of the Thunderdome: Republican Strategist Karl Rove says Bernie Sanders could beat Trump in 2020

I think he could win. My concern has never been his electability. It’s how he would govern.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:44:12pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

From the last thread:

He exactly did, and said it on television more than once. “You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorists.” Maybe you were speaking of a different Bush?

Reagan before he went into surgery after he was shot: “I hope you’re all Republicans.”

(0:25)

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The “W” example goes to how he was calling out any resistance against The War On Terror™ which was bought into by people of both parties and , well, everyone. No one was allowed to be against the war. Bad time. Talk about Nationalism.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:45:41pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

From the last thread:

He exactly did, and said it on television more than once. “You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorists.” Maybe you were speaking of a different Bush?

Reagan before he went into surgery after he was shot: “I hope you’re all Republicans.”

(0:25)

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Fair point on Bush and please don’t make me defend Reagan but that was a stupid joke.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:49:22pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

The “W” example goes to how he was calling out any resistance against The War On Terror™ which was bought into by people of both parties and , well, everyone. No one was allowed to be against the war. Bad time. Talk about Nationalism.

Yeah. It’s a fair point but I still don’t think with that exception Bush saw his critics as the enemy. And tbh I meant his personal enemies. I never felt that Bush thought the critics of the war were as bad as Al Queda. The Reagan example though was Reagan joking and OA you know how I feel about Reagan so me defending this makes me feel icky but I can’t compare Reagan’s post shooting joke to Trump repeatedly treating his critics like enemies.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:49:27pm

re: #16 wrenchwench

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:50:10pm

The point is Trump does this shit repeatedly to his critics.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:50:38pm

My wife just went to the general store. She says it’s a good thing I didn’t go, because the proprietor went into a rant on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:

She’s a socialist, she’s a bartender, she’s a dumb woman (you know, all the stuff Brian J was saying in the last thread).

My wife said that his tone and anger would have probably launched me into an epic argument with him.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:52:45pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:52:47pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

My wife just went to the general store. She says it’s a good thing I didn’t go, because the proprietor went into a rant on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:

She’s a socialist, she’s a bartender, she’s a dumb woman (you know, all the stuff Brian J was saying in the last thread).

My wife said that his tone and anger would have probably launched me into an epic argument with him.

And I have to deal with family members who call her the “B” word…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:53:21pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

Surprised they even showed it. Guess they were hard up for cash.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:53:39pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon 🌹

And I have to deal with family members who call her the “B” word…

They are so threatened by her. Brian is too for whatever reason.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 4:59:53pm

Nice video, nice tune, and nice beard, Nick Johnson.

Once upon a few decades ago, he was me, beardwise, just a bit less snub nosed Irish looking. Anywho, nice video and nice strumming.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:01:35pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon 🌹

And I have to deal with family members who call her the “B” word…

Bartender?

/

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:02:02pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Yeah. It’s a fair point but I still don’t think with that exception Bush saw his critics as the enemy. And tbh I meant his personal enemies. I never felt that Bush thought the critics of the war were as bad as Al Queda. The Reagan example though was Reagan joking and OA you know how I feel about Reagan so me defending this makes me feel icky but I can’t compare Reagan’s post shooting joke to Trump repeatedly treating his critics like enemies.

I only brought it up because the original point was over political party us versus them and whose side are you on. “W” used the war to cross political party lines.

I had a friend that was very anti-Vietnam and even registered for the draft as a CO. But he totally became unhinged and was a bomb ‘em all and sort it out later type after 9/11. He was all in on Bush even though he didn’t vote for him.

I saw it as being unquestioning and I think jumping into something like a war unquestioning as dangerous.

I think Charles has talked about some of that in the early days here and how that shaped this board for some time and then in ways caused issues later on.

Just another exampled of how people can be split up and group think can cause problems.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:05:37pm

re: #32 ObserverArt

I only brought it up because the original point was over political party us versus them and who side are you on. “W” used the war to cross political party lines.

I had a friend that was very anti-Vietnam and even registered for the draft as a CO. But he totally became unhinged and was a bomb ‘em all and sort it out later type after 9/11. He was all in on Bush even though he didn’t vote for him.

I saw it as being unquestioning and I think jumping into something like a war unquestioning as dangerous.

I think Charles has talked about some of that in the early days here and how that shaped this board for some time and then in ways caused issues later on.

Just another exampled of how people can be split up and group think can cause problems.

Right. And as I recall Bush’s statement was in the immediate aftermath of the most devastating attack on our soil since Pearl Harbor. I can’t defend that rhetoric but I understand why emotions were high in that time too. And as I said, I really don’t feel Bush saw his critics as enemies. And I don’t think Reagan did either. Doesn’t change them being bad Presidents but I think it shows how particularly autocratic Trump is in his basic philosophy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:18:57pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

My wife just went to the general store. She says it’s a good thing I didn’t go, because the proprietor went into a rant on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:

She’s a socialist, she’s a bartender, she’s a dumb woman (you know, all the stuff Brian J was saying in the last thread).

My wife said that his tone and anger would have probably launched me into an epic argument with him.

I live in extreme eastern Kentucky wingnut Libertarian/GOP/CoalisKing country and there is not one single business in this area where a proprietor would spout off like that to a customer, or even allow an employee to do so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:22:19pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

I live in extreme eastern Kentucky wingnut Libertarian/GOP/CoalisKing country and there is not one single business in this area where a proprietor would spout off like that to a customer, or even allow an employee to do so.

I take that back.
The one physical therapy clinic in this county has a TV in the main waiting room/treatment area that is set to Fox. One of the therapist there was a loud wingnut 2nd amendment loon and one of the regular patients was an equally loud”Methodists are all going to hell” Xtian.

I decided to tough out my pain without their assistance (which was mostly paid for by our ebil union insurance).

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:22:45pm

Pretty rad!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:25:22pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

I take that back.
The one physical therapy clinic in this county has a TV in the main waiting room/treatment area that is set to Fox. One of the therapist there was a loud wingnut 2nd amendment loon and one of the regular patients was an equally loud”Methodists are all going to hell” Xtian.

I decided to tough out my pain without their assistance (which was mostly paid for by our ebil union insurance).

Methodists? Never met anyone with a hard-on against them. Guess John Wesley pissed someone off.

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freetoken  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:33:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:35:52pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Methodists? Never met anyone with a hard-on against them. Guess John Wesley pissed someone off.

wingnut Xtians here despise Methodists more than they hate Catholics.

I really have no idea why.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:36:15pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

I like that wacky movie, especially the acting, especially the perpetually underrated Fred Gwynn, but I don’t get the title. Why “Semetary” when no priests are involved?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:36:34pm

Good evening Lizards.

Visiting brother in western NY for the weekend and mainly being rained on. It let up earlier today, which was good since we were working in the university’s arboretum planting trees and shrubs and putting up a “bee barn” to hold smaller “houses” that in turn hold reed tubes that the native mason and leaf-cutter bees can use to make nests. Repurposed wood (an old fence) and good for the nearby plants that need pollination.

We approve of this message!

Cooking for the holiday has been vegetarian for the most part. We made curry (eggplant and mushroom, good load of chile peppers as well) and homemade naan yesterday and it turned out quite well.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:38:14pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

wingnut Xtians here despise Methodists more than they hate Catholics.

I really have no idea why.

I honestly had no idea.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:38:19pm

re: #40 De Kolta Chair

I like that wacky movie, especially the acting, especially the perpetually underrated Fred Gwynn, but I don’t get the title. Why “Semetary” when no priests are involved?

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Because we bury our pets and people in a cemetery, and the kids were the ones who wrote the title.

Edited. Too many references to kids.

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:39:21pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re seen as liberal- Hillary is a Methodist for example.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:39:41pm

re: #41 Feline Fearless Leader

speaking of bees, I was so happy to hear that three of the Notre Dame roof beehives survived the fire. Mr BWS and neighbor Stanley (both beekeepers) are of the positive opinion that even more hives survived because those bees decamped when the smoke started. But those bees moved elsewhere for the nonce.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:41:11pm

re: #44 William Lewis

They’re seen as liberal- Hillary is a Methodist for example.

But so was W Bush. Methodists in my observations tend to be more wide ranged but never too extreme either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:41:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:42:21pm

May have just answered my own question. Methodists aren’t inherently fanatical so I guess it’s not a surprise zealots hate em.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:42:26pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

wingnut Xtians here despise Methodists more than they hate Catholics.

I really have no idea why.

Methodists and Unitarians are both heartily disliked by the wingnuts because they’re generally non-dogmatic and fairly liberal in a lot of ways. A lot of John Wesley’s writings are on helping the poor and a general rejection of the pre-ordained Calvinism dogma. (Which is the key to the prosperity gospel crap the wingnuts espouse so heavily as their justification for acting the way they do.)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:43:52pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck Franklin Graham. His father was a bigoted bastard too. Hypocrisy has no bounds with this pathetic hack.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:44:13pm

re: #38 freetoken

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:44:23pm

re: #49 Feline Fearless Leader

Methodists and Unitarians are both heartily disliked by the wingnuts because they’re generally non-dogmatic and fairly liberal in a lot of ways. A lot of John Wesley’s writings are on helping the poor and a general rejection of the pre-ordained Calvinism dogma. (Which is the key to the prosperity gospel crap the wingnuts espouse so heavily as their justification for acting the way they do.)

Methodists also do not believe in The Rapture

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:45:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:46:03pm

re: #49 Feline Fearless Leader

Methodists and Unitarians are both heartily disliked by the wingnuts because they’re generally non-dogmatic and fairly liberal in a lot of ways. A lot of John Wesley’s writings are on helping the poor and a general rejection of the pre-ordained Calvinism dogma. (Which is the key to the prosperity gospel crap the wingnuts espouse so heavily as their justification for acting the way they do.)

I have to say between Presbyterianism, Methodism, & Baptists, the Methodists always seemed the most open minded and closest to what I grew up with as a nominal Catholic. No offense to anyone here Baptist or Presbyterian.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:46:25pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Fuck Franklin Graham. His father was a bigoted bastard too. Hypocrisy has no bounds with this pathetic hack.

My dad sent me an article by Franklin Graham to try to defend Trump’s anti-Muslim “travel ban”. I almost blew a gasket.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:47:28pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

I have to say between Presbyterianism, Methodism, & Baptists, the Methodists always seemed the most open minded and closest to what I grew up with as a nominal Catholic. No offense to anyone here Baptist or Presbyterian.

My alma mater was founded as a Methodist university. It was where I was exposed to my first taste of what I’ll call “liberal Christianity”, something I never would have gotten from the evangelical universities I had briefly contemplated attending.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:47:33pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Can you imagine the stupid shit those guys probably talk about?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:48:31pm

re: #55 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My dad sent me an article by Franklin Graham to try to defend Trump’s anti-Muslim “travel ban”. I almost blew a gasket.

I don’t blame you. He coasts off his father’s name to give himself an err of respectability that frankly his father didn’t deserve either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:48:56pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

Can you imagine the stupid shit those guys probably talk about?

talk about yer circle jerk…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:49:38pm

re: #56 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My alma mater was founded as a Methodist university. It was where I was exposed to my first taste of what I’ll call “liberal Christianity”, something I never would have gotten from the evangelical universities I had briefly contemplated attending.

I never thought of the Methodists as liberal tbh. More moderate but I never thought about Wesley’s teachings too much. I don’t think I’ve known too many Methodists over the years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:49:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:50:05pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

talk about yer circle jerk…

Certainly nothing intellectual. :)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:50:37pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hehahahaha. Good one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:51:19pm

:(

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:51:24pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

I never thought of the Methodists as liberal tbh. More moderate but I never thought about Wesley’s teachings too much. I don’t think I’ve known too many Methodists over the years.

Methodists aren’t really liberal, per se. Tolerant is the word I would use. They encouraged actual critical thinking and coming to one’s own conclusions, rather than preaching a hard-line doctrine. I met some friends there who definitely qualified as liberal, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:53:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:54:55pm

re: #65 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Methodists aren’t really liberal, per se. Tolerant is the word I would use. They encouraged actual critical thinking and coming to one’s own conclusions, rather than preaching a hard-line doctrine. I met some friends there who definitely qualified as liberal, though.

Yeah tolerant I think is a better word. I don’t think of Methodists as ones to engage in disowning gay relatives or biblical justified racism. I mean they still oppose SSM I know but they seem less extreme in general.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:55:06pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:56:08pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

That kind of story just wrecks me. WTF LADY?!

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:56:43pm

re: #41 Feline Fearless Leader

Have a great time, FFL. Meanwhile, I suppose the rest of us will have to deal with the giant grasshopper invasion on our own. ;-P

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:57:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:57:14pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well they did Chuck. The fucking document justified slavery ffs. Maybe get your white head out of the outrage machine and understand why a black man, a descendant of slaves wouldn’t have your view of the founders and Constitution. The Constitution is a great document but it was a flawed document. There’s a reason we’ve had to amend it.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 5:58:33pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If Republicans and the media were smart, they would take it as a sign that she’s totally conning them.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:01:30pm

TBH if the Constitution were submitted now as originally written in 1787, it would be too backwards and anyone with any honesty would acknowledge that. But acknowledging our founders were flawed is somehow worse than being an aspiring autocrat if your name is Chuck Woolery.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:02:08pm

re: #43 Belafon

Sorry, Belafon, still ain’t gettin’ it.

But you know who I also don’t get? Annette Funicello.

Just kidding, I dig her the most. Take it away, ‘nette!

The Beach Boys & Annette Funicello : The Monkey’s Uncle

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:02:48pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

I live in extreme eastern Kentucky wingnut Libertarian/GOP/CoalisKing country and there is not one single business in this area where a proprietor would spout off like that to a customer, or even allow an employee to do so.

While I hardly held as high a political position or education as AOC, he knows I’m also in the DSA.

This is the same guy who thanked me for helping defeat a village sales tax, which he felt would hurt his business. (I am not a fan of flat taxes.)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:04:18pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

While I hardly held as high a political position or education as AOC, he knows I’m also in the DSA.

This is the same guy who thanked me for helping defeat a village sales tax, which he felt would hurt his business. (I am not a fan of flat taxes.)

Flat taxes are such a sham. It’s for people who think the average is a good universal measuring tool.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:04:20pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

I take that back.
The one physical therapy clinic in this county has a TV in the main waiting room/treatment area that is set to Fox. One of the therapist there was a loud wingnut 2nd amendment loon and one of the regular patients was an equally loud”Methodists are all going to hell” Xtian.

I decided to tough out my pain without their assistance (which was mostly paid for by our ebil union insurance).

Such places are where (if you can’t avoid them) owning a TV-B-Gone universal shutoff device is helpful.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:05:14pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:05:51pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Flat taxes are such a sham. It’s for people who think the average is a good universal measuring tool.

So in other words, President “$2000 average tax refund” Trump?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:07:09pm

re: #44 William Lewis

They’re seen as liberal- Hillary is a Methodist for example.

So is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:08:51pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rush is such a fat ass he makes Trump almost look slim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:10:26pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

Rush is such a fat ass he makes Trump almost look slim.

“almost”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:11:43pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

“almost”

Exactly. 👍🏻

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:11:55pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

I don’t blame you. He coasts off his father’s name to give himself an err of respectability that frankly his father didn’t deserve either.

“err” as opposed to “air” is probably the correct take here. /s

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:12:46pm

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹

“err” as opposed to “air” is probably the correct take here. /s

It’s almost 420 somewhere.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:12:56pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

I don’t blame you. He coasts off his father’s name to give himself an err of respectability that frankly his father didn’t deserve either.

Billy Graham, to his credit, was a stout man of God, while he had views that were also deeply anti-Christian. Franklin Graham just comes across as a flimsy prosperity gospel fake.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:13:06pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

But dude, they’re still mostly white. Won’t anyone think of the mostly white??!!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:13:08pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

I never thought of the Methodists as liberal tbh. More moderate but I never thought about Wesley’s teachings too much. I don’t think I’ve known too many Methodists over the years.

Well, my United Methodist family members all disowned me for being an atheist and my sister for being a lesbian, so there’s that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:13:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:13:34pm

re: #88 De Kolta Chair

Because Freedumb!!!

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Idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:14:47pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

Well, my United Methodist family members all disowned me for being an atheist and my sister for being a lesbian, so there’s that.

That’s awful. I wasn’t saying absolutely. I’m sure Jewish families have done the same but I don’t think of Jews as inherently homophobic or that hostile to Atheism.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:17:25pm

re: #87 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Billy Graham, to his credit, was a stout man of God, while he had views that were also deeply anti-Christian. Franklin Graham just comes across as a flimsy prosperity gospel fake.

Yeah I get that. I’ve always just felt that conservative Protestants like Graham had a certain smugness that I really dislike. Franklin is just such a pathetic hack and it’s so obvious. Jerry Falwell, Jr is from the same vain and I despise Falwell Sr more than I do the older Graham. One of the worst ones is Pat Robertson tho. Guy literally invested in blood diamonds.

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:17:33pm

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

So is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions.

Seen as. That doesn’t mean is.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:18:12pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Yeah I get that. I’ve always just felt that conservative Protestants like Graham had a certain smugness that I really dislike. Franklin is just such a pathetic hack and it’s so obvious. Jerry Falwell, Jr is from the same vain and I despise Falwell Sr more than I do the older Graham. One of the worst ones is Pat Robertson tho. Guy literally invested in blood diamonds.

Oh, you’re absolutely not wrong. I think Billy Graham is the best of the lot - and given how bad Billy Graham was, that is a scathing condemnation of the rest of that generation of Super Evangelical Christian Preachers.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:18:31pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The one on the left is too cool for school. He doesn’t want his friends to know he needs a guard because poachers are awful.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:19:26pm

re: #94 William Lewis

Seen as. That doesn’t mean is.

Yes. And tbh I think Sessions is more shaped by his own racial bigotry than UMC teachings.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:19:38pm

re: #95 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And yes, their kids are much worse. Falwell Jr. and Franklin Graham are nothing more than Republican sell-outs.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:21:18pm

re: #98 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And yes, their kids are much worse. Falwell Jr. and Franklin Graham are nothing more than Republican sell-outs.

Yeah they’re awful l all around.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:24:32pm

re: #87 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Billy Graham, to his credit, was a stout man of God, while he had views that were also deeply anti-Christian. Franklin Graham just comes across as a flimsy prosperity gospel fake.

Plus: He preached against Jim Crow and segregation.
Minus: He was a virulent anti-Semite. Mixed politics with religion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:25:06pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:25:37pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

Plus: He preached against Jim Crow and segregation.
Minus: He was a virulent anti-Semite. Mixed politics with religion.

When he preached the gospel, he generally preached the actual Good News. He made a major impact for the Kingdom of God, despite his reprehensible views. His son has done nothing but suck Republican dick.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:26:11pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Yes. And tbh I think Sessions is more shaped by his own racial bigotry than UMC teachings.

The United Methodist Church has never advanced racism as far as I’m aware. Too bad they don’t toss him for holding such racist views though.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:26:43pm

re: #102 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

When he preached the gospel, he generally preached the actual Good News. He made a major impact for the Kingdom of God, despite his reprehensible views. His son has done nothing but suck Republican dick.

His son I remember first got my attention when he made some very nasty comments about Muslims post 9/11.

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:26:47pm

Washington Monthly has two articles that hit different looks at the Mueller report.

Martin Longman wants to know where the Counter Intelligence Report is.

The Mueller report isn’t actually close to a full account of the investigation by the special counsel, Robert Mueller. That’s not just because of the redactions. When he was hired, Mr. Mueller inherited supervision of an F.B.I. counterintelligence investigation. That is the missing piece of the Mueller report.

Nancy LeTourneau points out that we never learned the full extent of Nixon’s crimes. By resigning, he kept a lot of things secret.

One of the most memorable scenes [in All The President’s Men] is when Woodward, played by Robert Redford, meets with Deep Throat, who counsels him to “follow the money.” But I had forgotten about the scene in which those two had a subsequent meeting.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:26:55pm

If anyone’s curious about making cute origami Easter candy baskets, which I most certainly are, I recommend swinging over to this informative site, which I swear has been around since Windows 3.5:

origami-instructions.com

All kidding aside, this is a cool fold, but not half as cool as a savior who arose from the dead.

Sorry, did I say savior? I meant has been.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:26:57pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:27:44pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

His son I remember first got my attention when he made some very nasty comments about Muslims post 9/11.

I actually didn’t hear much from Franklin Graham until the Trump administration. Shows you how isolated I was, even as a wingnut.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:28:59pm

re: #108 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I actually didn’t hear much from Franklin Graham until the Trump administration. Shows you how isolated I was, even as a wingnut.

Franklin flew around a lot with Sarah Palin whilst they pretended to “help” communities stricken by natural disasters.
Franklin brought bibles, Sarah brought Costco cookies.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:29:07pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

The United Methodist Church has never advanced racism as far as I’m aware. Too bad they don’t toss him for holding such racist views though.

Protestant churches don’t excommunicate and don’t really have a hierarchy from what I gather. So i don’t think they can formally kick him out so much as distance themselves from his racism by their own actions or his own home church could toss him but I imagine they’re as bigoted as he is.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:29:49pm

re: #108 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I actually didn’t hear much from Franklin Graham until the Trump administration. Shows you how isolated I was, even as a wingnut.

We talked about him on here in the Obama years.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:29:58pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:30:28pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

We talked about him on here in the Obama years.

I’m sure you did, I just don’t remember much of it. Obama’s presidency was a bit of personal chaos, what with the arrival of fishspawn and all. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:31:39pm

re: #113 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m sure you did, I just don’t remember much of it. Obama’s presidency was a bit of personal chaos, what with the arrival of fishspawn and all. ;)

Oh yeah for sure. Hard to believe Obama’s been gone two years already and his inaugural was a decade ago. I regret not going to that but I was moving into my dorm that day.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:32:53pm

Lutheran Church across the street update (I’m sort of like Gladys Kravitz since I can pull my curtain here and watch what they’re doing over there):

A few folks just arrived to prepare the church for an Easter Sunrise service in the morning. Since I have lived here they have never had sunrise service on Easter (they normally hold church services at the normal time).

Someone came across the street and asked if I would like to come to church (no thank you). I offered to move my car to the front of my house. Normally I park between the church and my house, but on days when the church expects a lot of people I move it so they can have an extra parking space close to the church.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:34:41pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah for sure. Hard to believe Obama’s been gone two years already and his inaugural was a decade ago. I regret not going to that but I was moving into my dorm that day.

My God, how I miss that man.

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garzooma  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:35:26pm

re: #105 retired cynic

Washington Monthly has two articles that hit different looks at the Mueller report.

Martin Longman wants to know where the Counter Intelligence Report is.

I was wondering the same thing. The whole issue about Trump being vulnerable to blackmail isn’t touched upon.

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rhuarc  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:36:09pm

re: #105 retired cynic

Washington Monthly has two articles that hit different looks at the Mueller report.

Martin Longman wants to know where the Counter Intelligence Report is.

Nancy LeTourneau points out that we never learned the full extent of Nixon’s crimes. By resigning, he kept a lot of things secret.

Mueller explains that in his report. All counter-intelligence remained with the FBI and was never going to be a part of Mueller’s investigation.

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ObserverArt  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:36:35pm

re: #102 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

When he preached the gospel, he generally preached the actual Good News. He made a major impact for the Kingdom of God, despite his reprehensible views. His son has done nothing but suck Republican dick.

This Billy Graham?

Nixon and Billy Graham caught on tape 1972

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:37:09pm

re: #119 ObserverArt

This Billy Graham?

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Yes, that asshole. Did I mention how low a bar it was?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:37:31pm

re: #116 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My God, how I miss that man.

I do too.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:39:10pm
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garzooma  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:39:13pm

re: #118 rhuarc

Mueller explains that in his report. All counter-intelligence remained with the FBI and was never going to be a part of Mueller’s investigation.

Thanks for pointing this out. Definitely something Congress has to look into.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:39:32pm

Cue wingnut butthurt (but we’re the real snowflakes - I even have a snowflake pin on one of my hats so it must be true):

Laura Loomer Filed A Lawsuit Against Twitter Based On A Prank Someone Played On Her (goes to Wonkette, more at the link):

This past November, far right dingbat Laura Loomer was finally kicked off of Twitter after tweeting a bunch of crazy ass hateful shit about Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. To put it mildly, she was not happy about it. In fact, she kind of lost her fucking mind (what was left of it anyway) and ended up handcuffing herself to Twitter headquarters in order to protest the ban. She’s been yelling about it ever since — though since she’s not on Twitter, few have even noticed.

Filled with desperation and with nowhere else left to turn, she is bringing her case to court and suing Twitter in hopes that a judge and jury will force the social media company to give her back her account so that she can continue to use it to scream horrible things about Muslim people all day long. This is what she is currently doing on Instagram, where she just recently went on a charming rant all about how much she hates Reps. Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar (yes, again), stating that Islam is a “cancer” and that “Muslims should not be allowed to seek positions of political office in this country. It should be illegal.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:40:11pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:40:30pm

I’m telling ya, kids, lay off the Easter egg hunts, and the omelets!

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:41:00pm

re: #126 De Kolta Chair

I’ve seen that movie. Very gross.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:42:12pm

re: #118 rhuarc

Mueller explains that in his report. All counter-intelligence remained with the FBI and was never going to be a part of Mueller’s investigation.

Wray is an interesting guy. Trump appointee but not really a full out Trump lackey either.

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:42:34pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:43:44pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:48:14pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:48:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:48:52pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:49:33pm

re: #129 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

//

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:51:13pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is a reason to keep investigating toward impeachment. Those guys aren’t going to stop. If they don’t stop, we can’t.

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rhuarc  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:51:14pm

re: #123 garzooma

Thanks for pointing this out. Definitely something Congress has to look into.

This from the lawfareblog: lawfareblog.com

This is direct from the Mueller report:

From its inception, the Office recognized that its investigation could identify foreign intelligence and counterintelligence information relevant to the FBI’s broader national security mission. FBI personnel who assisted the Office established procedures to identify and convey such information to the FBI. The FBI’s Counterintelligence Division met with the Office regularly for that purpose for most of the Office’s tenure. For more than the past year, the FBI also embedded personnel at the Office who did not work on the Special Counsel’s investigation, but whose purpose was to review the results of the investigation and to send—in writing—summaries of foreign intelligence and counterintelligence information to FBIHQ and FBI Field Offices. Those communications and other correspondence between the Office and the FBI contain information derived from the investigation, not all of which is contained in this Volume. This Volume is a summary. It contains, in the Office’s judgment, that information necessary to account for the Special Counsel’s prosecution and declination decisions and to describe the investigation’s main factual results.

This is Wittes parsing it:

In other words, the Mueller probe was a criminal probe only. It had embedded FBI personnel sending back to the FBI material germane to the FBI’s counterintelligence mission. But Mueller does not appear to have taken on any counterintelligence investigative function. And the report is purely an account through the lens of the criminal law. This partly, though only partly, explains why is no classified information in the report, which contains no “portion markings” anywhere.

This point has a major analytical consequence for the entire way one reads the Mueller report: Don’t assume it answers counterintelligence questions. Where it concludes that someone didn’t engage in a conspiracy, don’t confuse that with answering the question of whether there is some counterintelligence risk associated with that person. Instead, read the report only as an account of the disposition of the criminal questions associated with L’Affaire Russe. But keep in mind the following question as well: If I were an FBI counterintelligence agent and I knew this material, how concerned would I be about the individual in question?

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:51:35pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

I’ve seen that movie. Very gross.

As violent films go, I don’t think it’s very violent at all. The Wild Bunch was much more graphic 40 years ago, and that looks tame now. Anywho, I recommend taking another look. It’s a brilliantly funny satire of American culture, and I think it holds up quite well.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 6:52:45pm

re: #132 Dave In Austin

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Did he pet the snake? With his long-handled snake petter.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:04:21pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

Just saying, but “Pet the Snake” just happens to be my fave Parliament-Funkadelic song. /snurps

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Dave In Austin  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:05:08pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

Bryans completely hands off as anyone in the business is. I’ve watched him release 2 diamondbacks that were wrapped up together in bird netting. Never touched the snakes. If he gets close, he has elbow length kevlars. He’s a good handler. And he’s been bit twice ike a lot of these guys. They generally get hit when they are a bit younger.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:05:37pm
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Jay C  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:13:10pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Even given that Matt Gaetz is a clueless hack, he may have something of a vague point about a lot of folks wanting to “be done with the Mueller Report”.
The problem is that the other half want to use it to impeach Trump’s ass and (hopefully) toss it in jail.
Though I’m sure that that viewpoint will get little airing on Fox…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:15:44pm

re: #135 retired cynic

That is a reason to keep investigating toward impeachment. Those guys aren’t going to stop. If they don’t stop, we can’t.

Rep. Devin Nunes is still trying to outstupid Rep. Louie Gohmert:

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:20:10pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

Rep. Devin Nunes is still trying to outstupid Rep. Louie Gohmert

Worst drinking game ever, and I love enjoy drinking games.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:27:23pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Bartender?

/

Bocialist.

one for the python fans there

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:36:37pm

I was really looking forward to scarfing Chick-Fil-A at the San Antonio airport, until I realized that I’d much rather be scarfing on a Catholic enchilada than a Xtian fundamentalist McBurger with Trump Cheese Royale(TM), so I’ll settle for the tiny and pleasantly quaint Santa Fe airport. ///

The Santa Fe Regional Airport. Pretty ain’t it?
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:38:46pm

re: #146 De Kolta Chair

Small, but well designed architecture. You step off the plane, and think to yourself. “Yup, I’m in Santa Fe.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:39:50pm

re: #147 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The whole downtown core is so unique. Taos is the same. It’s very distinct.

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garzooma  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:40:32pm

re: #135 retired cynic

That is a reason to keep investigating toward impeachment. Those guys aren’t going to stop. If they don’t stop, we can’t.

Worse, not moving towards impeachment makes it seems like Democrats don’t care that much about being spied on — so why should anyone else?

Elizabeth Warren seems to be the only one out there who understands that sometimes you just have to take a stand.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:42:23pm

re: #146 De Kolta Chair

I was really looking forward to scarfing Chick-Fil-A at the San Antonio airport, until I realized that I’d much rather be scarfing on a Catholic enchilada than a Xtian fundamentalist McBurger with Trump Cheese Royale(TM), so I’ll settle for the tiny and pleasantly quaint Santa Fe airport. ///

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I haven’t been to very many airports, but I’ve seen the one at San Antonio (nice). My favorite is El Paso.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:43:51pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If Chucky had his way, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Tim Scott would only cast 3/5 of a vote in the Senate.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:45:23pm

re: #149 garzooma

Worse, not moving towards impeachment makes it seems like Democrats don’t care that much about being spied on — so why should anyone else?

Elizabeth Warren seems to be the only one out there who understands that sometimes you just have to take a stand.

Hopefully, Warren will find a better outcome than Gandalf had.

You Shall Not Pass - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (7/8) Movie CLIP (2001) HD

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:46:02pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

The whole downtown core is so unique. Taos is the same. It’s very distinct.

One of the first trips (mid 70s) I took with my husband was to visit a friend and business associate in Taos. He took us to dinner at a small basement “diner” that was for townspeople only. No sign. THAT was my introduction to “Mexican” food. After that, I never set foot in a Taco Bell, or any such imitation.

There is a restaurant about 20 miles away that comes as close as you can get in mass market food. I’ll eat there, with gusto. But would love to taste that basement diner food again!

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:50:38pm

As Dylan Thomas wrote,

Oh as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means,

Time held me green and dying

Though I sang in my chains like the sea.

But hell feck that, here’s Manfred Mann riffing on Wild Thing

Manfred Mann - Wild Thing - 1966 45rpm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:52:11pm

re: #87 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Billy Graham, to his credit, was a stout man of God, while he had views that were also deeply anti-Christian. Franklin Graham just comes across as a flimsy prosperity gospel fake.

Uh, we heard the Nixon tapes where Billy Graham Cracker lets his antisemitism run wild with Tricky Dick. Like every other Pulpit Pimp, Billy was just in it for the money and political power.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:52:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:54:02pm

re: #156 teleskiguy

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OH NO THEY DIDN’T DRAPE A ROBE AROUND THE MIDDLE CROSS!!!

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garzooma  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:54:19pm

re: #152 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Hopefully, Warren will find a better outcome than Gandalf had.

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I’m partial to this scenario:

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 7:57:58pm

re: #147 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Small, but well designed architecture. You step off the plane, and think to yourself. “Yup, I’m in Santa Fe.”

“Next stop… where the hell am I again?”

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:01:37pm

re: #5 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Because they’ll be the powerful ones in the new ‘Christian’ Amerikkka.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:02:53pm

A wag at Wonkette on Laura Loomer’s BS lawsuit against Twitter: Where have I heard this before?

Unemployment benefits specialist/ Bea Arthur: Occupation?
Loomer: Right-wing truther.
UBS/ Arthur: What?
Loomer: I’m a principled crusader against the left-wing, cultural-marxist, gay, muslim, surreptitious, genocidal abortion-campaign to destroy western civilization and establish a thousand-year Caliphate!
UBS/ Arthur: Oh, a HATEMONGER!
Loomer: grrmmmmnnnnrrrrr
UBS/ Arthur: Did you monger hate last week?
Loomer: No.
UBS/ Arthur: Did you try to monger hate last week?
Loomer: Yes.
Comicus: Ooh! Ooh! Laura! i just read your lawsuit about how the evil jew-muslim tech cartel is conspiring to silence you! it’s all over the internet!
UBS/ Arthur: Well then, since you’re hate mongering again you won’t be needing this PayPal funds transfer.
Loomer: Wait a minute! That money is mine!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:04:50pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:04:57pm

From the Golden Age of EP cover art, here’s a classic bit o’ kitsch from the Yardbirds

And, why not, here’s the A side

Little Games-The Yardbirds

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:05:32pm

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹

We could use Bea Arthur again. Maybe not Molly Ivins, but in the same firmament.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:06:31pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:09:57pm

I’ll just put this here, for posterity.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:12:23pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick just retweeted this, a tweet that’s eight hours old.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:15:58pm

re: #73 Belafon

If Republicans and the media were smart, they would take it as a sign that she’s totally conning them.

I’m seeing the first problem here.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:17:18pm

In recompense for that silly Yardbirds song I just linked to, here’s the real deal:

Jawbone - The Band (The Band 10 of 12)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:18:31pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick just retweeted this, a tweet that’s eight hours old.

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Hannity is such a pathetic toady.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:20:13pm

My goodness, just heard this on Sirius. Have not heard it in almost 50 years…

Elephant’s Memory - Mongoose

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:25:41pm

Damn.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:27:22pm
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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:46:35pm

re: #146 De Kolta Chair

I was really looking forward to scarfing Chick-Fil-A at the San Antonio airport, until I realized that I’d much rather be scarfing on a Catholic enchilada than a Xtian fundamentalist McBurger with Trump Cheese Royale(TM), so I’ll settle for the tiny and pleasantly quaint Santa Fe airport. ///

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My son has to fly into there next month.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:46:39pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

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Maryland must not be the South then because I’ve never heard shooting on the eve of Easter here. Thankfully.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:48:26pm

re: #175 Patricia Kayden

Maryland must not be the South then because I’ve never heard shooting on the eve of Easter here. Thankfully.

Jim Wright is in the panhandle of Florida, and the rural areas there are, well, real rural. Like, third world rural in some places.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:49:38pm

re: #176 teleskiguy

Jim Wright is in the panhandle of Florida, and the rural areas there are, well, real rural. Like, third world rural in some places.

Known as southern Alabama.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:53:24pm

re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹

My goodness, just heard this on Sirius. Have not heard it in almost 50 years…

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Talk about memories of parties gone by. Yoicks!

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:54:13pm

re: #172 teleskiguy

That’s harsh.

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JC1  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:54:18pm

re: #13 jaunte

Gangster administration.

If this was in 2016 then it was during Obama’s administration…

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:54:52pm

Earlier today, I heard Bob Dylan’s rendition of “Knocking on Heaven’s Door.” Definitely not the GnR version.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:55:06pm

re: #176 teleskiguy

Okay. That makes sense then. Lol

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:58:13pm

re: #179 Patricia Kayden

That’s harsh.

inorite?!?

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plansbandc  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:58:16pm

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:59:26pm

re: #181 Belafon

Earlier today, I heard Bob Dylan’s rendition of “Knocking on Heaven’s Door.” Definitely not the GnR version.

Dylan’s version is very poignant in context to where it is used in “Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid”.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2019 • 8:59:34pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:02:28pm

Night all, and may all your bbq’s be … uh … bbquey

Laudate Dominum, Mozart, OLSH Randwick Easter 2010

Who knew Brienne of Tarth could sing so well?

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:02:56pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick just retweeted this. The tweet is 17 hours old.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:07:00pm

I hope y’all are ready for dumb and insincere Easter messages from Cheeto.

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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:14:06pm

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope y’all are ready for dumb and insincere Easter messages from Cheeto.

EASTER IS TREMENDOUS, BELIEVE ME. CELEBRATED WORLD WIDE. AND I CELEBRATE IT, I HAVE A GOOD TIME, GREAT TIME. I LOVE THE CHOCOLATE. WHO DOESN’T LOVE CHOCOLATE?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:15:24pm

re: #186 Belafon

A photography Twitter pedant decided to jump into that thread to bash NASA for “altering” the photo.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:17:21pm

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹

A photography Twitter pedant decided to jump into that thread to bash NASA for “altering” the photo.

OFFS.

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geosherman  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:19:18pm

California Milkweed so beautiful I had to show you….

Flickr

California Milkweed
Asclepias californica

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 9:20:34pm

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope y’all are ready for dumb and insincere Easter messages from Cheeto.

Well, one thing that isn’t happening is the Easter Prayer Breakfast at the White House. (I’m opposed to that for obvious reasons, but it isn’t happening under Trump because he’s such a good Christian he needs to hit the links early.)

An example of President Obama addressing the Easter Prayer Breakfast in 2011.
obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

I imagine Trump couldn’t get past the first paragraph.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:09:02pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:13:29pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:15:46pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:18:29pm

re: #195 Ace-o-aces

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Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:21:08pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:21:55pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

EASTER IS TREMENDOUS, BELIEVE ME. CELEBRATED WORLD WIDE. AND I CELEBRATE IT, I HAVE A GOOD TIME, GREAT TIME. I LOVE THE CHOCOLATE. WHO DOESN’T LOVE CHOCOLATE?

Before I was president, people didn’t know about Easter. They didn’t celebrate it. Now they can. MAGA!

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:23:08pm

Well, Friday night was interesting…

I was supposed to attend a Seder at my brother’s. Who is on the far side of my urbanizing county.

However, the Seder was supposed to begin right around Friday evening rush hour. And we were forecast to get a lot of rain, thunderstorms, associated flooding, high winds and ‘possible scattered tornadoes’. I made a command decision that I was uninterested in participating in heavy rain and thunderstorms while sitting in a Friday evening traffic jam on I-495. So I sent my regrets.

Apparently, since I did not go to the weather, it came to me.

About 8:55 there was a very heavy gust of wind. Except, it did not stop, as gusts tend to do. I could hear the wind throwing debris against the outside of my house. After a period, it stopped. So I figured it was safe to go out and see what was going on.

I had almost reached the door when my cell phone blurted out a warning that a tornado had been detected in my area. And that I should seek shelter immediately. My first thought was “Well, that was useless”.

Anyway, apparently a very small tornado had traversed a path 100-200 yards from my house. Nobody was reported hurt. I fortunately escaped without any damage.

According to reports, a bunch of trees and branches were knocked over. A few fences were knocked over. Several streets were blocked by falling trees.

By morning, the report of multiple destroyed cars had gone to one parked pickup squished by a falling tree. And the report of multiple destroyed houses had gone to one house hit by a fallen tree.

Reminded me of my time, many years ago, in Ft Sill, Oklahoma.

One storm hit early afternoon, and fortunately no tornadoes hit directly where I was. Although, there was a point when the sky went from pitch black to a glassy green and everything got deathly still. The front finally ended right at sunset. The setting sun returned right at that point. It was shining from the narrow window in the clouds on the horizon of the very flat plains. And the sunlight was polarized by this.

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2019 • 10:32:57pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

I saw that tweet and my first thought was that it was unlikely that the Senate was going “to pass voting rights, immigration, healthcare, etc?” in this congress. Which was, I think, Stonekettle’s point.

To the bigger point, the House Democrats are going to need to pass good governance legislation, even if it withers in the Senate, investigate the living daylights out the current administration, and make sure that the American public understands the results of both these efforts.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:01:21pm

So I caught this in my feeds. Watching now. BBC Docu with David Attenborough. 60 min.

Climate Change - The Facts

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:19:04pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 20, 2019 • 11:30:00pm

re: #204 DodgerFan1988

Fuckface Von Clownstick, very soon, will tweet messages in defense of these racist vigilante fucksticks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:09:23am

re: #201 ckkatz

Yikes. I’m glad you’re safe.

I’m really not a fan of tornadoes. I don’t even like watching tornado porn on YouTube.

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mmmirele  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:19:26am

Bethel Church of Redding, California is one of the nexuses of independent Charismatic churches in the USA. They have an outsize influence because of their Bethel Music label, the band “Jesus Culture” and the unaccredited “‘Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry.” They’ve been on my radar for a while now and I’m on one of their mailing lists.

What I didn’t expect was that I was going to get an email on Thursday from Bethel Redding promoting conversion therapy.

But I did. Since then I’ve gotten a number of requests for the email, which also includes a promotion for the execrable lying piece of trash called “Unplanned” (an anti-abortion movie). I happily send it out when requested because I want Bethel Redding to be confronted with uncomfortable questions.

And it’s not like Bethel doesn’t know that this sort of thing (promoting a #oncegay hashtag and a group that does conversion therapy) isn’t problematic. They got criticized last year for their harshly anti-LGBTQ viewpoints. In fact they ended up having to delete one of their pastors’ sermons because it was just 90 minutes of criticism of #MeToo and gay bashing, which ended up with one person standing up and calling the pastor out. (I still have a copy of the sermon. The Internet is forever.)

What stuns me is this—these people can’t let those of us who aren’t heterosexual alone. It doesn’t matter if you’re gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, asexual, you’re a threat to Bethel Redding’s belief that heterosexuality is at the center of being a Christian. I’m asexual and I just don’t get how this is supposed to work, I just don’t. And I frankly resent their attitude. Jesus had nothing to say about sexuality and wasn’t all in on the fruits of heterosexuality (marriage, family) at all. Why have so many people hitched their religious belief system to militant heterosexuality?? (Don’t answer that.)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:35:21am

It seems there’s been a series of what looks to be coordinated terrorist attacks in Sri Lanka (that’s a bit of a surprise, since terrorism has not really been a significant issue since the Tamil Tigers admitted defeat a decade or so ago).

newsfirst.lk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:43:54am

re: #6 wrenchwench

A New Mexico man belonging to an armed group that has detained Central American families near the U.S.-Mexico border was arrested Saturday in a border community on a criminal complaint accusing him of being a felon in possession of firearms and ammunition, authorities said.

An ex-GF of mine moved to the Arizona-Mexico border with her husband some years ago. Last I heard, he was a member of the Border Militia and had built a 30-foot observation tower on their property.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:47:34am

re: #18 Eric The Fruit Bat

Karl Rove looked at Sanders performance on Fox, and thinks Trump may actually have something to worry about should he come out of the Thunderdome: Republican Strategist Karl Rove says Bernie Sanders could beat Trump in 2020

Rove is a sly SOB and knows that BS is the Democratic candidate most likely to ensure DT’s re-election…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:48:26am

re: #20 ObserverArt

The “W” example goes to how he was calling out any resistance against The War On Terror™ which was bought into by people of both parties and , well, everyone. No one was allowed to be against the war. Bad time. Talk about Nationalism.

It was not about being against Terrorism, but about being against their particular approach to combating it.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:50:35am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

Here’s live BBC coverage of the developing story out of Sri Lanka.

bbc.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:50:49am

re: #29 HappyWarrior

They are so threatened by her. Brian is too for whatever reason.

Again: because on top of her being liberal, urban and ethnic, she is also hot, and that gets these fat white asshole all the more agitated because they know that they can never have their way with her…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:56:32am

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

Here’s live BBC coverage of the developing story out of Sri Lanka.

bbc.com

Other coverage:

Sri Lanka Terror Attack LIVE: Six explosions ripped through Sri Lanka’s churches and popular hotels on Sunday morning, with authorities saying 165 people were feared dead. Worshippers were targeted at the Kochikade, St Sebastian and Batticaloa churches during Easter mass. The other locations are Hotel Shangri La, Cinnamon Grand and Kingsbury hotel.

The blasts occurred at around 8.45am (local time) as the Easter Sunday masses were in progress in churches, police spokesman Ruwan Gunasekera said.

(more)
news18.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:12:08am

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

Here’s live BBC coverage of the developing story out of Sri Lanka.

bbc.com

Such a craven and cowardly attack is absolutely wicked and despicable.

Sri Lanka suffered decades of civil war and such bombings in the past. They don’t need this.

No word out of our government yet. The governments of Australia, Pakistan, and India have all condemned the attacks and offered assistance to Sri Lanka.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:13:50am

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹

Such a craven and cowardly attack is absolutely wicked and despicable.

Sri Lanka suffered decades of civil war and such bombings in the past. They don’t need this.

No word out of our government yet. The governments of Australia, Pakistan, and India have all condemned the attacks and offered assistance to Sri Lanka.

I don’t think I want Trump to say a goddamn thing. It’s better for all concerned he keep his mouth shut.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:17:57am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹

Also,

Azzam Ameen, a BBC reporter in Colombo, said a government minister told him “they have no clue” who was behind the attacks and had no intelligence that such an attack was imminent.

Ameen said that at present the country’s intelligence agencies are just “guessing” that an international organisation or religious organisation could be behind it.

theguardian.com

I’d reckon that whatever group pulled off this atrocity managed to keep things under wraps pretty well.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:28:56am

re: #217 Dr Lizardo

Also,

theguardian.com

I’d reckon that whatever group pulled off this atrocity managed to keep things under wraps pretty well.

Nothing about it on Voice of America or Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

There is sparse information at the Sri Lankan Broadcasting Corporation (official organ of the government).

slbc.lk (with a photograph of the damage at St. Anthony’s Shrine)

slbc.lk (Information about the attacks, very limited)

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:35:59am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:40:04am

SLBC’s English Service is currently playing old American standards by a cover artist.

220.247.227.20 (live)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:50:11am

Looks like whatever’s going in Sri Lanka is still ongoing.

Just been confirmed by local police there.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:56:41am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:18:31am

Sri Lankan Broadcasting Corporation is getting weird on their English Service with their music. They are currently playing Marty Robbins’s “El Paso.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:22:51am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

I don’t think I want Trump to say a goddamn thing. It’s better for all concerned he keep his mouth shut.

This will be Trump-eted all over as an example of poor persecuted Christians and what can happen when we let liberals into power…

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freetoken  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:30:43am

Your overnight geology lecture, from a public lecture Nick Zentner gave a few days ago:

Plant Fossils in the Pacific Northwest

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:31:29am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This will be Trump-eted all over as an example of poor persecuted Christians and what can happen when we let liberals into power…

There’s about zero liberal in Sri Lanka’s government.

Sri Lanka is announcing a curfew now on its official radio, to take effect overnight.

The government has arrested one individual in connexion with one attack.

Defence units have been empowered with special powers to investigate and detain anyone suspected of a connexion with attacks on Catholic churches.

And now the cricket report …

Social media is aflame with Sri Lankans commenting on the ongoing issue, mostly condemning the government, police, and intelligence services for not thwarting or uncovering the plot for these attacks.

This is a problem in every country:

a) When the government successfully thwarts attacks and doesn’t report that, they are generally trying to protect sources and methods of intelligence-gathering.

b) When the government promotes the destruction of a potential terrorism attack, people bleat that the government is engaging in “security theatre” or tooting its own horn. (You see that here anytime a police organisation or intelligence service announces thwarting an attack.)

c) When the government fails to prevent an attack, citizens attack the government for failing to protect them.

A government can thwart a hundred attacks. All it takes for terrorism to succeed is one to get through.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:33:32am

re: #226 Anymouse 🌹

There’s about zero liberal in Sri Lanka’s government.

That has nothing to do with their Higher Truth that Christianity is under assault world wide and only White Fundamentalists with lots of guns can possibly be called on to save it.

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freetoken  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:42:06am

For some reason, on Youtube, I subscribe to this young woman’s vanity channel. She’s pretty, for sure, but also she seems to be trying to present China as an increasingly western type country:

CHINA TRAVEL #4 临沂 LINYI

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:44:37am

Sri Lanka’s Defence Minister claims the bombings are the work of religious extremists, citing no evidence.
theguardian.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:48:22am
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:54:10am

re: #207 mmmirele

They produce uplifting, contemporary Christian music so I’m surprised that they’re so antagonistic towards the LGBT community. What a shame.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:57:13am

re: #231 Patricia Kayden

They produce uplifting, contemporary Christian music so I’m surprised that they’re so antagonistic towards the LGBT community. What a shame.

Not at all surprised, homophobia is a pillar of Fundamentalism all over the world, not just Christian Fundamentalism.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 2:59:56am

A curfew has just been imposed in Sri Lanka, effective immediately. It was supposed to begin at 18:00 local time, but they’ve decided to do it now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:01:38am

re: #231 Patricia Kayden

They produce uplifting, contemporary Christian music so I’m surprised that they’re so antagonistic towards the LGBT community. What a shame.

I’m sorry to note that most Christian churches are antagonistic to the LGBT community.

Some of them are open about it, some use the line “love the sinner, hate the sin” (ignoring that LGBT is not a choice), &c.

The church which seems to be most open about it (the Metropolitan Community Church, the church in which my sister is a deaconess), is banned from the World Council of Churches, specifically for their open stance on the LBGT.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:05:59am

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹

Some of them are open about it, some use the line “love the sinner, hate the sin” (ignoring that LGBT is not a choice), &c.

In the modern Christian GOP it is “Hate the sin, elect the sinner.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:06:11am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

A curfew has just been imposed in Sri Lanka, effective immediately. It was supposed to begin at 18:00 local time, but they’ve decided to do it now.

The government’s official radio is occasionally breaking in with local information, but still playing the weirdest mixtape of ’60s and ’70s American music I ever listened to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:07:00am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

The government’s official radio is occasionally breaking in with local information, but still playing the weirdest mixtape of ’60s and ’70s American music I ever listened to.

Sounds like what they played on the Armed Forces Network AM channel in Germany.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:07:06am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the modern Christian GOP it is “Hate the sin, elect the sinner.”

LOL.

Do as I say, not as I do.

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:07:58am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

LOL.

Do as I say, not as I do.

Wrong time to drop vid?

Genesis - Jesus He Knows Me (Official Music Video)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:08:01am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

LOL.

Do as I say, not as I do.

Do what we say, not what we cover up.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:08:47am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sounds like what they played on the Armed Forces Network AM channel in Germany.

Same in Rota and on ship’s radio in the fleet. (Sadly, as a DJ on the USS JFK, I helped create such cringeworthy music mixes. My show was Country and Bluegrass, sandwiched between a heavy metal programme and a Top 40 programme.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:12:26am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹

Same in Rota and on ship’s radio in the fleet. (Sadly, as a DJ on the USS JFK, I helped create such cringeworthy music mixes. My show was Country and Bluegrass, sandwiched between a heavy metal programme and a Top 40 programme.)

I had a running gag going with the DJ’s at AFN in Frankfurt; I would call in and request a 60/70’s hit, they would inform me that they only did 80/90’s music, so I would request the modern cover version of it…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:13:17am

re: #239 Teukka

Wrong time to drop vid?

Or John R. Butler (2:03):

Hand Of The Almighty - John R. Butler

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:17:13am
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freetoken  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:34:01am

The show has been one of the more interesting Youtube channels for me, but I had not checked out his videos in a couple of months, and alas:

HAMSTER STEFAN PASSED AWAY…

Poor Stefan. Hamsters just don’t live long. I wonder how the cat knew not to torture the rodent.

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freetoken  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:35:23am

But the “silver lining” as promised in the previous video:

COOKIE GOT A NEW FRIEND?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:36:35am

Breaking again from SLBC:

Calls for calm.
The military will try anyone in civil courts connected with the attacks.
The police curfew is in immediate effect.
The state is meeting with officials of the Catholic Church.
False information is spreading on social media; as such, all social media sites have been blocked in Sri Lanka.
Several countries have condemned the attacks, including India and Pakistan. Both nations’ prime ministers state there is no place in civilised society for such attacks. The UK prime minister calls the attacks truly appalling and no one should have to practice their religious faith in fear.

Now back to “Love Me Tender.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:39:59am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:46:03am

I just tried a tracert command to the main Tamil newspaper in Sri Lanka. It comes back “unable to resolve target system name.”

I guess the closure of the Internet (other than government services) is now active.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:50:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:50:34am

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is 93 today. Her first Prime Minister was Winston Churchill - fair to say it’s been downhill since…

Churchill was a brilliant man to have on hand in 1940…but he became totally irrelevant and reactionary after 1945.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:55:00am

The English Service of the Sri Lanka Broadcasting Corporation (it’s official government organ) is now reading the Gospel story of the resurrection of Jesus.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:55:40am

re: #252 Anymouse 🌹

The English Service of the Sri Lanka Broadcasting Corporation (it’s official government organ) is now reading the Gospel story of the resurrection of Jesus.

Then they will move right on to Revelations…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:56:10am

(facepalm)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:09:04am

Broke Roger Stone Is Speaking for Money at a Strip Club (Daily Beast)

In my forays into strip clubs, Roger Stone would be the last thing I wanted to see.

And if he was stripping? Bleah.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:09:40am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

O_o

the horrible terrorist attacks on churches and hotels that have killed at least 138 million people

Facepalm indeed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:16:57am

re: #256 Dr Lizardo

O_o

Facepalm indeed.

Well, we can be pretty sure he wrote it. That’s about six times the population of Sri Lanka.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:17:36am

re: #255 Anymouse 🌹

Broke Roger Stone Is Speaking for Money at a Strip Club (Daily Beast)

In my forays into strip clubs, Roger Stone would be the last thing I wanted to see.

And if he was stripping? Bleah.

He knows where to find his target audience.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:18:07am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹

Well, we can be pretty sure he wrote it. That’s about six times the population of Sri Lanka.

TFW the President of Turkey sends out a tweet infinitely better than the President of the United States.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:18:31am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹

Well, we can be pretty sure he wrote it. That’s about six times the population of Sri Lanka.

and they gave Obama no end of shit about “all 57 states”…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:21:58am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

TFW the President of Turkey sends out a tweet infinitely better than the President of the United States.

Trump deleted his tweet. I guess the ratio and thousands of comments actually embarrassed him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:30:34am

re: #207 mmmirele

Bethel Church of Redding, California is one of the nexuses of independent Charismatic churches in the USA. They have an outsize influence because of their Bethel Music label, the band “Jesus Culture” and the unaccredited “‘Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry.” They’ve been on my radar for a while now and I’m on one of their mailing lists.

What I didn’t expect was that I was going to get an email on Thursday from Bethel Redding promoting conversion therapy.

[Embedded content]

But I did. Since then I’ve gotten a number of requests for the email, which also includes a promotion for the execrable lying piece of trash called “Unplanned” (an anti-abortion movie). I happily send it out when requested because I want Bethel Redding to be confronted with uncomfortable questions.

And it’s not like Bethel doesn’t know that this sort of thing (promoting a #oncegay hashtag and a group that does conversion therapy) isn’t problematic. They got criticized last year for their harshly anti-LGBTQ viewpoints. In fact they ended up having to delete one of their pastors’ sermons because it was just 90 minutes of criticism of #MeToo and gay bashing, which ended up with one person standing up and calling the pastor out. (I still have a copy of the sermon. The Internet is forever.)

What stuns me is this—these people can’t let those of us who aren’t heterosexual alone. It doesn’t matter if you’re gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, asexual, you’re a threat to Bethel Redding’s belief that heterosexuality is at the center of being a Christian. I’m asexual and I just don’t get how this is supposed to work, I just don’t. And I frankly resent their attitude. Jesus had nothing to say about sexuality and wasn’t all in on the fruits of heterosexuality (marriage, family) at all. Why have so many people hitched their religious belief system to militant heterosexuality?? (Don’t answer that.)

Isn’t Bethel the one where the chief witch-doctor claimed he made it rain gold dust in the sanctuary?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:32:14am

Omar Higgins, frontman and bassist of the Memphis, TN punk band Negro Terror has passed away. That’s a damn shame.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:43:19am

Latest news update from Sri Lanka’s English Service:

Curfew imposed.
Security forces have been deployed to the zoo. One person has been arrested in connexion with that attack.
Cricket scores.
Pope Francis at Easter Mass offered condolences and hope to Sri Lanka.
The Prime Minister says attackers will be dealt with in the civil courts, regardless of the persons’ status, and empowered the police forces and military to expedite the process.

Back to country and western music from the 50’s and 60’s.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:46:11am

What gets me is the total unprofessionalism of the Trump WH on matters like that. Like yeah ideologically they are awful but they can’t even be competent. I could understand an extra 0 or something but million? No one checks what he tweets first or he doesn’t read it? Anyhow it’s for the best that his mind isn’t on Sri Lanka because he would be sending Don Jr to poach the Tamil Tigers after skimming through briefing docs on that country. Jokes aside, at the law firm I worked at, Trump’s recklessness in how he communicates wouldn’t be acceptable.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:49:00am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and they gave Obama no end of shit about “all 57 states”…

And that was on the campaign trail after a long day. I can get verbal gaffes rather than written ones. No one cares about effectively communicating in the Trump WH because the Orange shit probably gets mad if you tell him he’s wrong about anything.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 4:58:47am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

What gets me is the total unprofessionalism of the Trump WH on matters like that. Like yeah ideologically they are awful but they can’t even be competent. I could understand an extra 0 or something but million? No one checks what he tweets first or he doesn’t read it? Anyhow it’s for the best that his mind isn’t on Sri Lanka because he would be sending Don Jr to poach the Tamil Tigers after skimming through briefing docs on that country. Jokes aside, at the law firm I worked at, Trump’s recklessness in how he communicates wouldn’t be acceptable.

And he spelled out the word million. It wasn’t a mistake of digits zero.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:03:49am

I guess I should be listening to official government radio in Sri Lanka more often. It’s been a long time since I heard Charlie Rich on the radio.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:04:56am

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

And he spelled out the word million. It wasn’t a mistake of digits zero.

Right. That’s what I mean. He’s clearly too busy golfing or whining about Mueller to care about getting the facts right. His focus is nonexistent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:07:03am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:17:10am
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jeffreyw  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:29:32am

A watched pot never boils.

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:34:53am

re: #271 Anymouse 🌹

for chryon out loud

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:38:37am

“Tensions within President Donald Trump’s white nationalist base continued as former Republican state Rep. David Duke demanded that Trump fire senior White House advisor Jared Kushner.

“Duke, a convicted felon, is a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

“Duke posted media on Twitter that depicted Kushner holding up a baby-sized Trump by his underwear, with the #FireKushner hashtag repeated three times.

Also in April, Duke has referred to Kushner as a “Jewish Zionist Supremacist” and called him the “Anti-Christ.”

rawstory.com

Gee, who’d’ve guessed an anti-Semite would go after a Jew.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:52:49am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹

“Tensions within President Donald Trump’s white nationalist base continued as former Republican state Rep. David Duke demanded that Trump fire senior White House advisor Jared Kushner.

“Duke, a convicted felon, is a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

“Duke posted media on Twitter that depicted Kushner holding up a baby-sized Trump by his underwear, with the #FireKushner hashtag repeated three times.

Also in April, Duke has referred to Kushner as a “Jewish Zionist Supremacist” and called him the “Anti-Christ.”

rawstory.com

Gee, who’d’ve guessed an anti-Semite would go after a Jew.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:53:02am

re: #228 freetoken

For some reason, on Youtube, I subscribe to this young woman’s vanity channel. She’s pretty, for sure, but also she seems to be trying to present China as an increasingly western type country:

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Video

Judging from her YT and Instagram content, she’s new at this, and is apparently an expat Chinese doing an internship in the motherland.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 21, 2019 • 5:56:07am

I thought this was laugh-out-loud funny. Maybe my mind is going.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:03:37am

Why is this douchecanoe still on Twitter? (Oh yeah, libertarians.)

My wife got a tattoo of a hippo long before I met her. I guess she’s really owned by the hippopotamus overlords.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:08:24am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:08:28am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

And this from a so-called person who calls himself a “civilized barbarian.” Some of these twitter descriptions are funny as heck.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:15:13am

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

And this from a so-called person who calls himself a “civilized barbarian.” Some of these twitter descriptions are funny as heck.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:16:12am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

Why is this douchecanoe still on Twitter? (Oh yeah, libertarians.)

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My wife got a tattoo of a hippo long before I met her. I guess she’s really owned by the hippopotamus overlords.

I have four. Roosh should mind his own damn business.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:19:23am

re: #281 Dr Lizardo

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Haha perfect file photo. It reminds me of Homer wearing the Russian winter hat and doing a march with a vodka bottle and Lisa quips “I told him that photo would come back to haunt him.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:20:31am

re: #277 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I thought this was laugh-out-loud funny. Maybe my mind is going.

…and rabbits!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:21:33am

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

And this from a so-called person who calls himself a “civilized barbarian.” Some of these twitter descriptions are funny as heck.

Civilized Barbarians would make a good band name tho. As an actual description of someone otoh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:23:09am

Trump is still ranting about Democrats. After he deleted his stupid tweet about Sri Lanka, he has not addressed that again.

Radio Sri Lanka is noting the countries which have extended condolences. It is noteworthy ours is not on the list. Those they mentioned in the last news update were Australia, India, Pakistan, the UK, Germany, Canada, Mexico, and Brazil.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:24:21am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹

“Tensions within President Donald Trump’s white nationalist base continued as former Republican state Rep. David Duke demanded that Trump fire senior White House advisor Jared Kushner.

“Duke, a convicted felon, is a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

“Duke posted media on Twitter that depicted Kushner holding up a baby-sized Trump by his underwear, with the #FireKushner hashtag repeated three times.

Also in April, Duke has referred to Kushner as a “Jewish Zionist Supremacist” and called him the “Anti-Christ.”

rawstory.com

Gee, who’d’ve guessed an anti-Semite would go after a Jew.

Jared is awful but Jared would be awful if he were an Evangelical Christian. Steve Scalise’s former political role model only hates Jared for being Jewish.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:25:37am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹

Trump is still ranting about Democrats. After he deleted his stupid tweet about Sri Lanka, he has not addressed that again.

Radio Sri Lanka is noting the countries which have extended condolences. It is noteworthy ours is not on the list. Those they mentioned in the last news update were Australia, India, Pakistan, the UK, Germany, Canada, Mexico, and Brazil.

As I said, no focus. Bolsonaro is acting more like statesmanlike ffs here. It’s not hard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:25:51am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Jared is awful but Jared would be awful if he were an Evangelical Christian. Steve Scalise’s former political role model only hates Jared for being Jewish.

Trump on his own might have been controllable to a degree. But Trump’s power depends on his base, and it is comprised almost entirely of whackos and loose cannons…they are starting to come unraveled…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:33:36am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump on his own might have been controllable to a degree. But Trump’s power depends on his base, and it is comprised almost entirely of whackos and loose cannons…they are starting to come unraveled…

TBH it’s been all downhill since he actually had to start being President. Read a great quip from a Dem strategist this morning- Trump wins in reality TV, he loses in reality. Basically when Trump controls the game, he wins but when reality kicks in I.e. the Mueller Report and actual Presiding, he loses and it’s been mostly the latter since November 2016 for him. He hasn’t once had over 50% approval and he has few accomplishments and the few he had were done independent of him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:34:16am

Radio Sri Lanka just noted that all social media is suspended until further notice. (Previously they said it would be temporary.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:35:41am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

TBH it’s been all downhill since he actually had to start being President. Read a great quip from a Dem strategist this morning- Trump wins in reality TV, he loses in reality.

He also does fine in a situation where you can just declare bankruptcy, pay a few dents on the dollar and walk away.

Things are somewhat different in party politics, international trade and diplomacy.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:37:02am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He also does fine in a situation where you can just declare bankruptcy, pay a few dents on the dollar and walk away.

Things are somewhat different in party politics, international trade and diplomacy.

He’s in over his head. And no one has the balls to tell him.

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:38:44am

I did not click through to read the NYT version (I posted an AP link last night) but I’m posting the tweet for the accompanying photo.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:43:13am

re: #294 wrenchwench

I did not click through to read the NYT version (I posted an AP link last night) but I’m posting the tweet for the accompanying photo.

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He’s been convicted of impersonating LEO before. But yeah let’s rage at people seeking asylum legally. This guy needs to be locked up and shouldn’t have access to guns.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:44:07am

re: #263 Dr Lizardo

Omar Higgins, frontman and bassist of the Memphis, TN punk band Negro Terror has passed away. That’s a damn shame.

Awww. That’s sad. And we just learned about the band here a few months ago. RIP rocker.

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:48:05am
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:48:43am

My 15 yo is listening to Ornette Coleman in the kitchen on his computer while his mom cuts his hair. I would not want someone holding scissors near my head while Ornette blows away.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:49:03am

re: #296 ObserverArt

Awww. That’s sad. And we just learned about the band here a few months ago. RIP rocker.

Yeah - it looked like they were on the brink of going pretty big. It’s a shame.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:50:10am

Regarding the bombings in Sri Lanka earlier today,

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:55:50am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:56:29am

Sigh, life in rural America.

My neighbour just drove a big-ass John Deere tractor with a front-end loader up his driveway from the alley and parked it partly in my backyard.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 21, 2019 • 6:58:14am

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

And he spelled out the word million. It wasn’t a mistake of digits zero.

I suspect he doesn’t actually type the tweets but instead has some sort of voice recognition app running that transcribes what he says. That allows his usual full verbal diarrhea mode to make it into tweets. And something like “million” to slip in there even easier.

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DangerMan  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:00:19am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

TBH it’s been all downhill since he actually had to start being President. Read a great quip from a Dem strategist this morning- Trump wins in reality TV, he loses in reality. Basically when Trump controls the game, he wins but when reality kicks in I.e. the Mueller Report and actual Presiding, he loses and it’s been mostly the latter since November 2016 for him. He hasn’t once had over 50% approval and he has few accomplishments and the few he had were done independent of him.

iow he’s had zero successes from his brilliant personal management style

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:01:34am

re: #304 Man, DangerMan

iow he’s had zero successes from his brilliant personal management style

Yeah. Who knew that being a raging asshole isn’t a sound strategyz

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:02:14am

re: #303 Feline Fearless Leader

I suspect he doesn’t actually type the tweets but instead has some sort of voice recognition app running that transcribes what he says. That allows his usual full verbal diarrhea mode to make it into tweets. And something like “million” to slip in there even easier.

I’d love to see what his Tweetstorms are like. Oh to be a housefly on the wall of Mar Al Lago :)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:07:46am

re: #303 Feline Fearless Leader

I suspect he doesn’t actually type the tweets but instead has some sort of voice recognition app running that transcribes what he says. That allows his usual full verbal diarrhea mode to make it into tweets. And something like “million” to slip in there even easier.

He finally got around to fixing it:

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:08:32am

re: #303 Feline Fearless Leader

I suspect he doesn’t actually type the tweets but instead has some sort of voice recognition app running that transcribes what he says. That allows his usual full verbal diarrhea mode to make it into tweets. And something like “million” to slip in there even easier.

There’s apps like that?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:08:47am

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

He finally got around to fixing it:

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His Twitter condolences always come off as if he’s shouting.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:09:15am

re: #303 Feline Fearless Leader

I suspect he doesn’t actually type the tweets but instead has some sort of voice recognition app running that transcribes what he says. That allows his usual full verbal diarrhea mode to make it into tweets. And something like “million” to slip in there even easier.

A voice recognition app wouldn’t end a tweet with ellipses to be continued 3.5 hours later.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:09:19am

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

Actions speak louder than words DT. Why isn’t the local flotilla on its way?

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:10:09am

re: #311 PhillyPretzel

Actions speak louder than words DT. Why isn’t the local flotilla on its way?

What he means by ready to help is we are ready to Invade Iran.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:11:37am

Condolences to the people of blank, we are with you, & an exclamation mark. It’s just hollow window dressing.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:12:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:14:17am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

He’s in over his head. And no one has the balls to tell him.

The GOP hoped they could surround him with people who had some idea of what they were doing. They were overly optimistic.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:15:17am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP hoped they could surround him with people who had some idea of what they were doing. They were overly optimistic.

They thought they could control him. A lot of people thought they could control a Bohemian corporal top in Germany 86 years ago.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:18:22am

re: #298 Barefoot Grin

My 15 yo is listening to Ornette Coleman in the kitchen on his computer while his mom cuts his hair. I would not want someone holding scissors near my head while Ornette blows away.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:18:28am

So if you’re keeping score at home:

All lies, didn’t happen.
If something happened it involved bouncing baby Russian infants.
All lies, didn’t happen (round two)
It happened, and there’s nothing wrong with it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:19:10am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹

“Tensions within President Donald Trump’s white nationalist base continued as former Republican state Rep. David Duke demanded that Trump fire senior White House advisor Jared Kushner.

“Duke, a convicted felon, is a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

“Duke posted media on Twitter that depicted Kushner holding up a baby-sized Trump by his underwear, with the #FireKushner hashtag repeated three times.

Also in April, Duke has referred to Kushner as a “Jewish Zionist Supremacist” and called him the “Anti-Christ.”

rawstory.com

Gee, who’d’ve guessed an anti-Semite would go after a Jew.

Duke is dumber than I would have thought thinking Trump would kick out Kushner. Also, Duke may just learn Trump doesn’t care about him not when it comes to keeping his plastic daughter happy.

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:19:26am

Our friend puts on a great Seder every year. 20 people for dinner last night and the food, again, was awesome. His matzo ball soup is to die for. Starts with a chicken stock, then adds duck confit and reduces the stock again and makes the matzo balls with the meat off the duck. Fucking heaven.

Additionally, last night, the first course was a meze of Palestinian dishes. A lamb kofta he cooked on the grill, a zhoug (cilantro sauce), a grilled eggplant dish, roasted beets and a ‘matzo brie hash’ (a vehicle for delivering schmalz to one’s belly).

Main was short rib, wok fried carrots, and was going to make a kugel, though as it was getting late he called an audible and had the Irishman, me, make latkes. I love making latkes.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:20:51am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹

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So if you’re keeping score at home:

All lies, didn’t happen.
If something happened it involved bouncing baby Russian infants.
All lies, didn’t happen (round two)
It happened, and there’s nothing wrong with it.

It amazes me that this is the same man who prosecuted gangsters. It’s not the hackery. It’s the laziness. Happy Easter to you, Rudy, you really are up there with Lionel Hutz as far as defense attorneys go.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:22:05am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹

The same people who would believe that argument also believe the UN has infiltrated public schools and is brainwashing our youth, that fluoride is a commie plot, and global warming in a Chinese hoax. For all I know, Rudy might even believe those things, too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:23:55am

Rudy’s…Rudy’s not a good defense attorney. It’s pretty painful to watch. It’s like watching Michael Jordan play baseball but that’s not fair to MJ since he was getting better.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:24:16am

JASPER, Texas (AP) — A technology company was almost ready to bring up to 300 new jobs to Jasper, Texas, but in the final stages of recent negotiations, a potential deal-breaker emerged: the community’s history as the place where three white men dragged a black man behind a pickup, killing him.

The 1998 death of James Byrd Jr. was one of the most gruesome hate crimes in U.S. history, and it gave the company president pause in the discussions about where to locate his firm’s newest facility. Local clergy and community leaders made their case that the town of 7,600 people is not defined by a murder that happened almost 21 years ago.

(more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
starherald.com

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William Lewis  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:28:10am

re: #298 Barefoot Grin

My 15 yo is listening to Ornette Coleman in the kitchen on his computer while his mom cuts his hair. I would not want someone holding scissors near my head while Ornette blows away.

Coltrane, i could see. Coleman though would be a nope.

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:35:23am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:36:00am

Radio Sri Lanka English Service just switched from Country & Western with breaking news updates to “The Christian Half-Hour” [click]

I’ll check back with them later.

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:41:58am

re: #324 Anymouse 🌹

JASPER, Texas (AP) — A technology company was almost ready to bring up to 300 new jobs to Jasper, Texas, but in the final stages of recent negotiations, a potential deal-breaker emerged: the community’s history as the place where three white men dragged a black man behind a pickup, killing him.

The 1998 death of James Byrd Jr. was one of the most gruesome hate crimes in U.S. history, and it gave the company president pause in the discussions about where to locate his firm’s newest facility. Local clergy and community leaders made their case that the town of 7,600 people is not defined by a murder that happened almost 21 years ago.

(more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
starherald.com

Huh. Who knew that a horrible racist act of violence could be bad for business. Not the white people of Jasper, they’re taken by surprise.

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:48:02am

re: #324 Anymouse 🌹

JASPER, Texas (AP) — A technology company was almost ready to bring up to 300 new jobs to Jasper, Texas, but in the final stages of recent negotiations, a potential deal-breaker emerged: the community’s history as the place where three white men dragged a black man behind a pickup, killing him.

The 1998 death of James Byrd Jr. was one of the most gruesome hate crimes in U.S. history, and it gave the company president pause in the discussions about where to locate his firm’s newest facility. Local clergy and community leaders made their case that the town of 7,600 people is not defined by a murder that happened almost 21 years ago.

(more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
starherald.com

I get a 451 status on that one…

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:51:26am
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gwangung  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:51:50am

re: #328 wrenchwench

Huh. Who knew that a horrible racist act of violence could be bad for business. Not the white people of Jasper, they’re taken by surprise.

Gatlin said Jasper has not minimized Byrd’s death but “we’ve just tried to move on.”

Generally, moving on means brushing it under the carpet and not speaking about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:54:10am

re: #331 gwangung

Gatlin said Jasper has not minimized Byrd’s death but “we’ve just tried to move on.”

Generally, moving on means brushing it under the carpet and not speaking about it.

And not making any effort to learn from it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:54:36am

Joy Reid just had a brief segment with MSNBC journalist Mike Viqueira. He was staking out Bob Mueller and trying to get a comment from him as he left church through a side door. Maybe it’s just me — but it seems that on Easter morning, it is totally inappropriate to stalk someone who has not committed any crime, who is infamous for not commenting, and who is trying to observe the most important holiday of his religion. Can we just leave honest people alone occasionally?

Which reminds me — is Trump attending church today?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:57:20am

re: #333 Hecuba’s daughter

Which reminds me — is Trump attending church today?

Seems that he is availing himself of the true meaning of Easter

In which Jesus arises from the dead, walks out of his tomb, sees his shadow and we get six more weeks of winter…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 21, 2019 • 7:58:14am

re: #333 Hecuba’s daughter

Joy Reid just had a brief segment with MSNBC journalist Mike Viqueira. He was staking out Bob Mueller and trying to get a comment from him as he left church through a side door. Maybe it’s just me — but it seems that on Easter morning, it is totally inappropriate to stalk someone who has not committed any crime, who is infamous for not commenting, and who is trying to observe the most important holiday of his religion. Can we just leave honest people alone occasionally?

Which reminds me — is Trump attending church today?

The First Church of Me, Donald Trump, Reality TV Star with a Big .. uh .. Brain
Today’s sermon will be given by Donald Trump. Subject: on being grateful you can give money to Donald Trump

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:00:18am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Once again, he reminds me of a slacker student who hasn’t done a lick of work ever and tried to BS his way through an assignment.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:01:06am

I’m sure someone like Graham or Jeffries will be there for a photo op. His fake piety is so nauseating given he’s never lived his life for anyone except himself.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:02:04am

re: #336 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Once again, he reminds me of a slacker student who hasn’t done a lick of work ever and tried to BS his way through an assignment.

He sounded the same way about the Gettysburg Address too. Just doesn’t care about subjects that don’t directly concern him.

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:02:15am
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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:04:10am

re: #331 gwangung

Gatlin said Jasper has not minimized Byrd’s death but “we’ve just tried to move on.”

Generally, moving on means brushing it under the carpet and not speaking about it.

That usually works out. Or used to, speaking optimistically.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:04:23am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

It amazes me that this is the same man who prosecuted gangsters. It’s not the hackery. It’s the laziness. Happy Easter to you, Rudy, you really are up there with Lionel Hutz as far as defense attorneys go.

Just watched that fool on Meet Chuck.

It was all a set-up by Clinton and Obama to take down Trump. Rudy wants that looked into…there is the crime. And it only looked like obstruction ‘cuz The Big Orange Don was trying to protect himself.

And oh yeah, Cohen is nothing but lies!!! I guess that is why Trump hired him as his personal business lawyer and why they put him in as deputy finance chairman of the RNC.

And why does Chuck let this Doctor of Bullshit on his show?

“Good TV.”

It sure isn’t to learn anything about the politics of our nation, because Chuck just let him ramble on. I hope Chuck gets to ask questions the next time he is interviewed by Rudy on Meet The Press.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:05:54am

re: #341 ObserverArt

Just watched that fool on Meet Chuck.

It was all a set-up by Clinton and Obama to take down Trump. Rudy wants that looked into…there is the crime. And it on;y looked like obstruction ‘cuz The Big Orange Don was trying to protect himself.

And oh yeah, Cohen is nothing but lies!!! I guess that is why Trump hired him as his personal business lawyer and why they put him in as deputy finance chairman of the RNC.

And why does Chuck let this Doctor of Bullshit on his show?

“Good TV.”

It sure isn’t to learn anything about the politics of our nation, because Chuck just let him ramble on. I hope Chuck gets to ask questions the next time he is interviewed by Rudy on Meet The Press.

As someone who has worked in law, Rudy is just embarrassing to watch. He’s like Hutz or a Coen Bros character in how comically inept he is.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:09:38am

re: #324 Anymouse 🌹

JASPER, Texas (AP) — A technology company was almost ready to bring up to 300 new jobs to Jasper, Texas, but in the final stages of recent negotiations, a potential deal-breaker emerged: the community’s history as the place where three white men dragged a black man behind a pickup, killing him.

The 1998 death of James Byrd Jr. was one of the most gruesome hate crimes in U.S. history, and it gave the company president pause in the discussions about where to locate his firm’s newest facility. Local clergy and community leaders made their case that the town of 7,600 people is not defined by a murder that happened almost 21 years ago.

(more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
starherald.com

The local clergy and community leaders of Jasper Texas need to get in the library and do some reading on history. I think they will find a lot of towns that are marked by some big historic moments, good and bad.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:10:58am

re: #336 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Once again, he reminds me of a slacker student who hasn’t done a lick of work ever and tried to BS his way through an assignment.

“If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:11:12am

re: #329 Teukka

I get a 451 status on that one…

I don’t know what that is. I just clicked the link and it worked for me.

“Christian Half-Hour” is over on Radio Sri Lanka. They’re playing 60’s surfer music mixed with Frank Sinatra.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:11:35am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

I was watching face the nation and the first guest was Mike Lee promoting his new book. And why the fuck is the question ALWAYS what the democrats should do to fix the mess the damned republicans have made? I know, our media sucks.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:12:48am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

As someone who has worked in law, Rudy is just embarrassing to watch. He’s like Hutz or a Coen Bros character in how comically inept he is.

Isn’t Chuck similarly inept? As usual, I didn’t watch him. Was he letting Rudy hang himself? Or did he seem clueless too?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:12:52am

re: #346 A Mom Anon

I was watching face the nation and the first guest was Mike Lee promoting his new book. And why the fuck is the question ALWAYS what the democrats should do to fix the mess the damned republicans have made? I know, our media sucks.

Yep. Onus is always on us. Never them. Lee can go to hell.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:14:24am

re: #347 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t Chuck similarly inept? As usual, I didn’t watch him. Was he letting Rudy hang himself? Or did he seem clueless too?

I can’t comment on Chuck the way I can Rudy. I’ve done journalism but it was sports and never professional. I have been a paralegal so I know about how lawyers should and shouldn’t act.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:15:12am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

And why does Chuck let this Doctor of Bullshit on his show?

“Good TV.”

Reminds me of a Python sketch, where the narrator showed filming of a cute animal, which the narrator (John Cleese) said, “Here’s a (some animal) - it isn’t in a life or death struggle, and consequently, Bad Television”.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:16:23am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

Why is this douchecanoe still on Twitter? (Oh yeah, libertarians.)

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My wife got a tattoo of a hippo long before I met her. I guess she’s really owned by the hippopotamus overlords.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:21:40am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Seems that he is availing himself of the true meaning of Easter

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In which Jesus arises from the dead, walks out of his tomb, sees his shadow and we get six more weeks of winter…

What? Is he supposed to be truthful and say I don’t have a clue what Easter means to Christians, I’m not one?!

But we can all rest assured Michelle Bachmann with the crazy eyes says he is the most biblical president ever.

I’m guessing she means strictly old testament.

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:21:42am

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know what that is. I just clicked the link and it worked for me.

“Christian Half-Hour” is over on Radio Sri Lanka. They’re playing 60’s surfer music mixed with Frank Sinatra.

Disabled for legal reasons. I’ve been getting it a lot on US outlets after GDPR went into force.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:25:07am

re: #336 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Once again, he reminds me of a slacker student who hasn’t done a lick of work ever and tried to BS his way through an assignment.

Reminds? I think you are safe to say he is the slacker student.

People don’t change.

And people also don’t ask for all of their past educational institutions to block any question or looking into the records about that education.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:31:00am

re: #350 Eric The Fruit Bat

Reminds me of a Python sketch, where the narrator showed filming of a cute animal, which the narrator (John Cleese) said, “Here’s a (some animal) - it isn’t in a life or death struggle, and consequently, Bad Television”.

Hey…you are quoting me! You dug my comment out of Happy’s quote of my comment.

; )

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piratedan  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:32:24am

re: #355 ObserverArt

didn’t you come here for an Argument?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:32:47am

‘bout time!

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:36:42am

re: #356 piratedan

didn’t you come here for an Argument?

I most certainly did not!

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451_Montag  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:37:30am

re: #358 ObserverArt

You did

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sagehen  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:39:43am

re: #297 wrenchwench

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The first “important” mural in the US from that tradition was in California (1930) in the main dining hall of Pomona College

pomona.edu

I ate breakfast at Prometheus’ feet every day when I lived on-campus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:42:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:45:12am
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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:45:52am

re: #359 451_Montag

You did

…is this abuse?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:49:49am

Lre: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It would.

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piratedan  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:50:09am

re: #363 ObserverArt

down the hall, 1st door on the left…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:51:04am

re: #353 Teukka

Disabled for legal reasons. I’ve been getting it a lot on US outlets after GDPR went into force.

I guess the Scottsbluff Star-Herald isn’t interested in complying, or doesn’t know how (computers aren’t really a big thing here).

Radio Sri Lanka news update:

Premier says the law will be strictly enforced against those behind the explosions at hotels and Catholic Churches.
Curfew has now been extended until further notice.
Defence staff have now set up their commission to investigate the blasts.
The public is urged to not spread rumours.
The Prime Minister was in discussions with the head priest of St. Anthony’s and the Archbishop.
Parliament is being convened in emergency session this evening.
All schools will be closed tomorrow and day after.
All trains scheduled for tonight are cancelled; the airport is open but persons are requested to check in four hours early.
The United Nations chief has been in contact with Sri Lanka and is outraged by the attacks.
Donald Trump offered “heartfelt condolences” and help over the attack.
Interpol says it is ready to assist Sri Lanka in investigation of the bomb attacks. Specialised teams will be sent to the country.

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mmmirele  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:55:40am

re: #231 Patricia Kayden

They produce uplifting, contemporary Christian music so I’m surprised that they’re so antagonistic towards the LGBT community. What a shame.

A lot of people are unhappy about Bethel Music because their songs are so prevalent even in churches that don’t share their anti-LBGTQ beliefs. There is the beginnings of a move to push churches to dump Bethel Music songs for precisely this reason—“do you want your royalties to continue to fund anti-LGBTQ churches?”

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:56:58am

re: #364 HappyWarrior

L

It would.

Well, at least Rep. Cummings is being realistic and facing the facts that it could cost in the elections.

It is realistic to think in this current climate and with the help of the media Trump could use this to get another win.

The Trumps already seem to be building toward making that happen. I think they will delay the actual impeachment as long as they can and Rudy laid out their game plan for how they will run on all of this.

They are going to say they never got a fair chance, Clinton and Obama worked to take them down from day one and now the Democrats are covering it up with Mueller’s help. Elect Trump to his second term so he can get something done those nasty Democrats messed up for the first one.

Nuts, eh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:57:02am

re: #294 wrenchwench

I did not click through to read the NYT version (I posted an AP link last night) but I’m posting the tweet for the accompanying photo.

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another picture of him:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 8:59:29am
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plansbandc  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:01:32am

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another shining example of the master race.

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sagehen  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:01:47am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Seems that he is availing himself of the true meaning of Easter

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In which Jesus arises from the dead, walks out of his tomb, sees his shadow and we get six more weeks of winter…

Did he tweet anything about Passover? Did Javanka invite him to their seder?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:03:44am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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piratedan  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:04:31am

re: #368 ObserverArt

to be fair, I also see the converse effect as well…. Dems have been watching this shitshow unfold during the election process and post the election process and finally took back the House in 2018.

Not pushing for Impeachment hearings in light of all of the crimes and all of the political norms being ignored and quite possible treason among all of the other crimes (RICO, Voting rights violations, illegal finance, perjury) would be seen as abdicating their responsibilities and buying into the idea that there is only the Presidency and the other pieces of the Government only exist to exert his will.

Besides, Congressional Hearings will put this information out there, into the Congressional Record and will not likely only affect Trump, but each and every member of his Administration… Think Mnuchin from Treasury is getting away unscathed? Barr for his gross misrepresentation of what was in the Report?… I think these fuckers are lucky that the Dems are abiding by the rules and if the GOP believes that the rules won’t apply, well then I don’t expect that people are just going to allow that to pass.

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:04:31am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Seems that he is availing himself of the true meaning of Easter

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In which Jesus arises from the dead, walks out of his tomb, sees his shadow and we get six more weeks of winter…

Is that verbatim drumpf from this weekend? Where can I find the source?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:04:55am

re: #372 sagehen

Did he tweet anything about Passover? Did Javanka invite him to their seder?

yesterday:

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sagehen  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:06:52am

re: #346 A Mom Anon

I was watching face the nation and the first guest was Mike Lee promoting his new book. And why the fuck is the question ALWAYS what the democrats should do to fix the mess the damned republicans have made? I know, our media sucks.

politics.theonion.com
nov 4, 2008

Black Man Given Nation’s Worst Job

WASHINGTON—African-American man Barack Obama, 47, was given the least-desirable job in the entire country Tuesday when he was elected president of the United States of America. In his new high-stress, low-reward position, Obama will be charged with such tasks as completely overhauling the nation’s broken-down economy, repairing the crumbling infrastructure, and generally having to please more than 300 million Americans and cater to their every whim on a daily basis. As part of his duties, the black man will have to spend four to eight years cleaning up the messes other people left behind. The job comes with such intense scrutiny and so certain a guarantee of failure that only one other person even bothered applying for it. Said scholar and activist Mark L. Denton, “It just goes to show you that, in this country, a black man still can’t catch a break.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:06:59am
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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:09:34am

re: #374 piratedan

to be fair, I also see the converse effect as well…. Dems have been watching this shitshow unfold during the election process and post the election process and finally took back the House in 2018.

Not pushing for Impeachment hearings in light of all of the crimes and all of the political norms being ignored and quite possible treason among all of the other crimes (RICO, Voting rights violations, illegal finance, perjury) would be seen as abdicating their responsibilities and buying into the idea that there is only the Presidency and the other pieces of the Government only exist to exert his will.

Besides, Congressional Hearings will put this information out there, into the Congressional Record and will not likely only affect Trump, but each and every member of his Administration… Think Mnuchin from Treasury is getting away unscathed? Barr for his gross misrepresentation of what was in the Report?… I think these fuckers are lucky that the Dems are abiding by the rules and if the GOP believes that the rules won’t apply, well then I don’t expect that people are just going to allow that to pass.

I don’t disagree. I just worry that doing the right thing is going to cost us.

I think that way because if we were all doing the right thing, we wouldn’t even be in this mess.

All being the important word.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:09:47am

Learned from my favorite film review podcast that in the UK there will be special 40th-anniversary screenings of Life of Brian. I hope they do it here, too.

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:15:41am

re: #379 ObserverArt

I don’t disagree. I just worry that doing the right thing is going to cost us.

I think that way because if we were all doing the right thing, we wouldn’t even be in this mess.

All being the important word.

I learned the hard way that the right thing was rarely the correct thing. Our society and culture gives lip service to doing the right thing but rewards those who don’t have that hang up.

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piratedan  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:16:24am

re: #379 ObserverArt

agreed, the GOP sure made the Dems pay the price for the implementation of the ACA by successfully characterizing it as some kind of massive healthcare boondoggle, even though it was debated for over a year and had input from multiple sources, physicians, nurses, insurance companies and even the GOP itself.

The thing is, after Trump, I actually believe people are starting to understand that this is NOT a “both sides” issue (despite the useful idiots in the Media STILL selling that narrative) and that the GOP’s veil of deceit is finally showing some rends in that fabric. I think the Tax Reform bill is bringing that home as people are actually seeing with their own eyes that the GOP gives a fuck-all about the middle class. Sure, people can be racist-lite in their personal lives but when you start fucking with their tax refunds and pissing away their summer vacation plans, people remember that kind of shit.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:17:55am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tracey really doesn’t know what he’s talking about because like many Bros, he’s got a Putin shaped blind spot.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:19:15am

The Bros want to deny Russian interference because frankly they bought the Kremlin shit and spread it due to their hatred of HRC and the Dem establishment.

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:20:04am

re: #380 Barefoot Grin

Learned from my favorite film review podcast that in the UK there will be special 40th-anniversary screenings of Life of Brian. I hope they do it here, too.

Swedish 40th anniversary.
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:23:04am

A concerned President weighs in on Sri Lanka.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:24:39am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tracey is prepping for his next appearance on the Fox News White Trash Power Hour with Tucker Carlson.

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makeitstop  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:25:42am

It’s true. For all the tap dancing and jiving the Trump Cult is doing, flr all the chaff they’re throwing out there, no one besides Trump is denying anything. Just semantic bullshit about how maybe it isn’t so bad or other types of justification and hair-splitting.

And what was that Clinton-era word that was on every Republican’s lips?? Oh, yeah. Parsing. Lots of parsing going on.

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:25:43am

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

another picture of him:

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The least-woke man in NM. Not very good at being a sleeper, either.

I’d say ‘thanks’, but I’m not feeling it.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:25:44am

re: #351 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:27:46am

re: #385 Teukka

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Yay! And what have the Romans ever done for us?

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:28:36am
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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:29:35am

re: #390 goddamnedfrank

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Is it just me, or does Roosh appear a tad unwell?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:29:49am

Radio Sri Lanka just ended its broadcast day. No more official news from their government outlet until 5AM in the morning there.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:33:36am

re: #393 Teukka

Is it just me, or does Roosh appear a tad unwell?

He’s been this way a long time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:35:01am

re: #393 Teukka

Is it just me, or does Roosh appear a tad unwell?

It’s been brain dead for years.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:38:40am

re: #396 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s been brain dead for years.

Doesn’t brain dead imply that there was once “brain alive?”

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:43:53am

Asshole gonna asshole.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:46:19am

re: #397 Anymouse 🌹

Doesn’t brain dead imply that there was once “brain alive?”

Could be like using ‘dead’ in the naming of the Dead Sea.

There is a brain there, it’s just unable to support actual thought.

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sagehen  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:48:38am

re: #388 makeitstop

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It’s true. For all the tap dancing and jiving the Trump Cult is doing, flr all the chaff they’re throwing out there, no one besides Trump is denying anything. Just semantic bullshit about how maybe it isn’t so bad or other types of justification and hair-splitting.

And what was that Clinton-era word that was on every Republican’s lips?? Oh, yeah. Parsing. Lots of parsing going on.

Don McGahn has publicly stated that all the parts about him (or quoting him) were entirely accurate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:49:07am

re: #398 Ace-o-aces

Asshole gonna asshole.

They’re also collecting in response to Dinesh D’Felon’s tweet.

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mmmirele  Apr 21, 2019 • 9:57:21am

re: #333 Hecuba’s daughter

Joy Reid just had a brief segment with MSNBC journalist Mike Viqueira. He was staking out Bob Mueller and trying to get a comment from him as he left church through a side door. Maybe it’s just me — but it seems that on Easter morning, it is totally inappropriate to stalk someone who has not committed any crime, who is infamous for not commenting, and who is trying to observe the most important holiday of his religion. Can we just leave honest people alone occasionally?

Which reminds me — is Trump attending church today?

Does that mean I shouldn’t picket the church that believes the state should execute women who have abortions? I thought I’d go out with a sign that says, “Christ is risen! Hallelujah! He didn’t die so you could harass women who have abortions.” Or something similar. These people are so radical I think it’s important not to treat this as a special day.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:02:09am

re: #352 ObserverArt

What? Is he supposed to be truthful and say I don’t have a clue what Easter means to Christians, I’m not one?!

But we can all rest assured Michelle Bachmann with the crazy eyes says he is the most biblical president ever.

I’m guessing she means strictly old testament.

He is according to those two Corinthians he was talking to.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:04:29am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:08:58am
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Mattand  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:12:45am

re: #333 Hecuba’s daughter

Joy Reid just had a brief segment with MSNBC journalist Mike Viqueira. He was staking out Bob Mueller and trying to get a comment from him as he left church through a side door. Maybe it’s just me — but it seems that on Easter morning, it is totally inappropriate to stalk someone who has not committed any crime, who is infamous for not commenting, and who is trying to observe the most important holiday of his religion. Can we just leave honest people alone occasionally?

Which reminds me — is Trump attending church today?

Totally trends into tinfoil hat territory, but in my darker moments, I think: “Muller’s a Republican. Republicans always put power and party before law and the good of the country. He purposely left the report vague enough for Trump to potentially skate.”

Honestly, it’s probably just me, but I’ve fucking had it with hearing what an infallible bulwark of honesty and integrity Muller is. Regardless of my “theory” above, Muller probably knows that Trump should be out of office and his report is being grossly misinterpreted.

However, it feels like he’s going to pull the “Well, my job was just to investigate the claims, if the country slides into dictatorship, not my problem” horseshit.

So, if a reporter asks him an honest question as he’s leaving Mass, tough. There’s way more at stake right now than worrying about Muller being able to sing hymns.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:13:05am

re: #402 mmmirele

Does that mean I shouldn’t picket the church that believes the state should execute women who have abortions? I thought I’d go out with a sign that says, “Christ is risen! Hallelujah! He didn’t die so you could harass women who have abortions.” Or something similar. These people are so radical I think it’s important not to treat this as a special day.

Picketing with a sign is not inappropriate — but using a bullhorn on this day may be. I am not a Christian so am unsure about all that is considered appropriate in these circumstances. I just thought that stalking Mueller in particular on this day was wrong.

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Mattand  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:13:38am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

Why is this douchecanoe still on Twitter? (Oh yeah, libertarians.)

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My wife got a tattoo of a hippo long before I met her. I guess she’s really owned by the hippopotamus overlords.

That’s just what someone in the thrall of Big Hippo would say.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:15:01am

re: #405 Anymouse 🌹

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Whodathunkit?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:17:27am

re: #398 Ace-o-aces

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Asshole gonna asshole.

Uh everyone’s talking about it Dinesh. Do you ever not whine like a baby? Oh and unlike Christchurch, everyone is condemning it in the West rather than justifying it the way your kind do when Muslims get murdered.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:19:18am

re: #406 Mattand

Totally trends into tinfoil hat territory, but in my darker moments, I think: “Muller’s a Republican. Republicans always put power and party before law and the good of the country. He purposely left the report vague enough for Trump to potentially skate.”

Honestly, it’s probably just me, but I’ve fucking had it with hearing what an infallible bulwark of honesty and integrity Muller is. Regardless of my “theory” above, Muller probably knows that Trump should be out of office and his report is being grossly misinterpreted.

However, it feels like he’s going to pull the “Well, my job was just to investigate the claims, if the country slides into dictoartship, not my problem” horseshit.

So, if a reporter asks him an honest question as he’s leaving Mass, tough. There’s way more at stake right now than worrying about Muller being able to sing hymns.

I think Mueller would gladly prosecute Trump if it was within his powers. I know the guy’s a Republican but I think he has been working with what he’s had. I think it’s fair to ask him questions but I can understand wanting to give him a break. The guy has had Trump attacking his motivations for months.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:21:19am

re: #405 Anymouse 🌹

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Evangelicals are such assholes. This is exactly what was going to happen when you basically wrote a freedom to discriminate under the guise of “religious principles” into your laws. They make these laws knowing that they will never be used on them. Maybe if Fundies were actually discriminated against like they claim, they wouldn’t like these stupid laws so much. You shouldn’t be in the adoption business if you’re going to be denying people the right to adopt.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:27:00am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Evangelicals are such assholes. This is exactly what was going to happen when you basically wrote a freedom to discriminate under the guise of “religious principles” into your laws. They make these laws knowing that they will never be used on them. Maybe if Fundies were actually discriminated against like they claim, they wouldn’t like these stupid laws so much. You shouldn’t be in the adoption business if you’re going to be denying people the right to adopt.

Thing is, churches such as Catholics supported these laws as well, along with many non-fundamentalist Protestants.

If it was Catholics writing the laws, I imagine you’d see Charismatics discriminated against.

Most of them would discriminate against Mormons. All of them would discriminate against atheists (and have even before such laws were written).

It doesn’t matter which franchise of Christianity writes their beliefs into law, they will discriminate against all the others (and Jews, &c).

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Mattand  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:27:16am

re: #411 HappyWarrior

I think Mueller would gladly prosecute Trump if it was within his powers. I know the guy’s a Republican but I think he has been working with what he’s had. I think it’s fair to ask him questions but I can understand wanting to give him a break. The guy has had Trump attacking his motivations for months.

Honestly, I don’t. We’re at Defcon 1 with regard to the government going full Banana Republic. The investigation of Clinton was turned into an unredacted fucking paperback book within days of it’s release. Muller’s report is being redacted to protect a corrupt President.

Muller has to know this. Yet, if push comes to shove, he’ll probably just hang back and go “Hey, whaddya gonna do?” when our country goes full dictatorship.

Admittedly, a lot of this predicated on Muller wanting to go full whistle blower. Which probably will never happen.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:27:51am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Evangelicals are such assholes. This is exactly what was going to happen when you basically wrote a freedom to discriminate under the guise of “religious principles” into your laws. They make these laws knowing that they will never be used on them. Maybe if Fundies were actually discriminated against like they claim, they wouldn’t like these stupid laws so much. You shouldn’t be in the adoption business if you’re going to be denying people the right to adopt.

Unfortunately I am afraid that the Trump government, with its widespread embrace of fundamentalism, has no problems with this. Obviously Trump has no personal interest in this topic — but Mike Pence certainly does.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:28:19am

re: #413 Anymouse 🌹

Thing is, churches such as Catholics supported these laws as well, along with many non-fundamentalist Protestants.

If it was Catholics writing the laws, I imagine you’d see Charismatics discriminated against.

Most of them would discriminate against Mormons. All of them would discriminate against atheists (and have even before such laws were written).

It doesn’t matter which franchise of Christianity writes their beliefs into law, they will discriminate against all the others (and Jews, &c).

How big is the Catholic presence in SC? And the Jewish community certainly didn’t support these laws.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:28:25am

splcenter.org

Article about the wingnuts on the border who claim to be “militias.” They are now tearing each other apart over RWNJ conspiracy theories.

Partway down the article they talk about the nutbar who was arrested in New Mexico.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:28:50am

re: #415 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately I am afraid that the Trump government, with its widespread embrace of fundamentalism, has no problems with this. Obviously Trump has no personal interest in this topic — but Mike Pence certainly does.

Yeah Trump is merely indifferent to Evangelicals being bigoted assholes because he needs them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:30:15am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

How big is the Catholic presence in SC? And the Jewish community certainly didn’t support these laws.

pewforum.org

Evangelicals make up 35%. Catholics make up 10%. All Christians make up 78%.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:30:22am

re: #414 Mattand

Honestly, I don’t. We’re at Defcon 1 with regard to the government going full Banana Republic. The investigation of Clinton was turned into an unreacted fucking paperback book within days of it’s release. Muller’s report is being redacted to protect a corrupt President.

Muller has to know this. Yet, if push comes to shove, he’ll probably just hang back and go “Hey, whaddya gonna do?” when our country goes full dictatorship.

Admittedly, a lot of this predicated on Muller wanting to go full whistle blower. Which probably will never happen.

I dunno man. I think Mueller wants to do right. We’ll see what happens if he’s called to testify on the Hill which I think he should so he can clarify his findings to the American people in his words. I think he’s just an old fashioned type. I really don’t think Mueller punted to Congress because he wanted to, I think he did it because he had to.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:31:36am

re: #419 Anymouse 🌹

pewforum.org

Evangelicals make up 35%. Catholics make up 10%. All Christians make up 78%.

Right. TBH I think these laws pass in places where religious diversity is the lowest.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:32:52am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

I dunno man. I think Mueller wants to do right. We’ll see what happens if he’s called to testify on the Hill which I think he should so he can clarify his findings to the American people in his words. I think he’s just an old fashioned type. I really don’t think Mueller punted to Congress because he wanted to, I think he did it because he had to.

Had Mueller gone outside the lines of his mandate, he could have been prosecuted. The GOP guaranteed would do that, and anything he’d turned up or spoken about would be deemed either tainted or unusable in a court (fruit of the poisoned tree).

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:36:18am

re: #421 HappyWarrior

Right. TBH I think these laws pass in places where religious diversity is the lowest.

So-called religious “nones” are 19% in South Carolina.

Nebraska is much more religiously diverse (if you’re Christian, anything else we’re less diverse than South Carolina).

pewforum.org

“Nones” here are 20% though - far fewer identify as “atheist” than in South Carolina.

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:36:30am

re: #398 Ace-o-aces

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Asshole gonna asshole.

OK, even leaving aside for a moment the fact that Dinesh D’Souza is a hack ideologue and a general blithering fool, there ARE a number of difference in how the media is/his covered the Sri Lanka bombings, vs. the New Zealand mosque shooting. And AFAICT, the biggest ones are:
1. The NZ shooter livestreamed his attack, and tried to maximize its exposure in the world media (mainly Internet)- and so far, that does NOT seem to be the case in Sri Lanka.
2. Brandon Tarrant didn’t bother top cover up his involvement: the Sri Lanka bombers (as of this afternoon) still haven’t been identified
3. The Sri Lankan government seems to have used the occasion of these attacks to clamp down on news media, shut off Internet access and try to keep a lid on the news. NOT what happened in NZ (which was basically the opposite).
4 . Have I mentioned that Dinesh D’Souza is a hack ideologue and general blithering fool? (and yes, as noted, this is frontpage news worldwide)

PS: As of 13:00 ET the death toll in Sri Lanka stands at 207, with 450 injured.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:38:18am

re: #375 Old Liberal

Is that verbatim drumpf from this weekend? Where can I find the source?

Just a report from FB, which is why i qualified it as “according to this source”…

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:38:34am

re: #414 Mattand

Honestly, I don’t. We’re at Defcon 1 with regard to the government going full Banana Republic. The investigation of Clinton was turned into an unreacted fucking paperback book within days of it’s release. Muller’s report is being redacted to protect a corrupt President.

The original Starr report was totally unredacted so it could be turned into a paperback as is. And the current Mueller report is available to everyone on line. Certain issues were totally different — there was no allegation of foreign involvement for Clinton and so there would have been no need for redactions regarding sensitive intelligence operations. And there were no other ongoing investigations regarding other persons that would have required redactions. I have no objection to those redactions. However, Starr did release all the grand jury evidence and it seems that if Barr had any ethics (* hint — he doesn’t), he would have made efforts to secure authorization to release that material.

I am intending to write to my Congressman that Barr needs to be impeached immediately for his behavior.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:39:25am

re: #422 Anymouse 🌹

Had Mueller gone outside the lines of his mandate, he could have been prosecuted. The GOP guaranteed would do that, and anything he’d turned up or spoken about would be deemed either tainted or unusable in a court (fruit of the poisoned tree).

that’s what I mean. I think Mueller is very much an old school conservative type. I’m not talking politically, I’m talking about how he operates.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:40:37am

re: #423 Anymouse 🌹

So-called religious “nones” are 19% in South Carolina.

Nebraska is much more religiously diverse (if you’re Christian, anything else we’re less diverse than South Carolina).

pewforum.org

“Nones” here are 20% though - far fewer identify as “atheist” than in South Carolina.

I would imagine Nebraska has a good amount of Lutherans and Catholics due to the many German immigrants that went there. Outside of Charleston, not really a lot of immigrants went to SC in the Industrial years.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:42:36am

Nebraska also allows for religious discrimination in adoption. Our laws protect against discrimination against sex, but not gender or orientation.

Democratic state senator Adam Morfeld tried to open an investigation against three faith-based adoption agencies here discriminating against LGBT and atheists, but the GOP legislators shut it down.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:44:31am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

I would imagine Nebraska has a good amount of Lutherans and Catholics due to the many German immigrants that went there. Outside of Charleston, not really a lot of immigrants went to SC in the Industrial years.

Across the street from me is a Lutheran church.

In the county seat there are Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Methodist, and Presbyterian churches.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:44:59am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

I dunno man. I think Mueller wants to do right. We’ll see what happens if he’s called to testify on the Hill which I think he should so he can clarify his findings to the American people in his words. I think he’s just an old fashioned type. I really don’t think Mueller punted to Congress because he wanted to, I think he did it because he had to.

Mueller did not want to challenge DOJ rules; if he had, it would have gone to the SC and the decision would probably have not been in his favor. He’s a “by the book” type of guy who is unlikely to object to longstanding DOJ policy. If the rule had been adopted during the Trump administration, he might have acted otherwise — but it’s been around since the 1970’s.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:45:53am

re: #429 Anymouse 🌹

Nebraska also allows for religious discrimination in adoption. Our laws protect against discrimination against sex, but not gender or orientation.

Democratic state senator tried to open an investigation against three faith-based adoption agencies here discriminating against LGBT and atheists, but the GOP legislators shut it down.

I honestly have more respect for those who don’t believe in discriminatory laws period than those who are okay with discriminatory laws that protect certain groups. That is to say if you accept that the law can protect one against discrimination on the basis of race, gender, disability, you should also be able to support protection against discrimination on the basis of religion and sexuality. All these laws that allow discrimination against people in the name of religion are done by majority groups that would never be persecuted. Really, if you were hypothetically to have an adoption agency and discriminate against Christians, you would be the subject of a Fox News outrage even though you would be doing the same thing that these agencies do against LGBT people and Atheists.

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:46:20am

re: #430 Anymouse 🌹

Across the street from me is a Lutheran church.

In the county seat there are Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Methodist, and Presbyterian churches.

There’s a lot of flavors of lutheran

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:47:08am

re: #431 Hecuba’s daughter

Mueller did not want to challenge DOJ rules; if he had, it would have gone to the SC and the decision would probably have not been in his favor. He’s a “by the book” type of guy who is unlikely to object to longstanding DOJ policy. If the rule had been adopted during the Trump administration, he might have acted otherwise — but it’s been around since the 1970’s.

Yeah he doesn’t strike me as ideological. Just someone who sees the rules and follows them as such. He TBH is what a normal conservative prosecutor should be.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:48:03am

re: #429 Anymouse 🌹

Nebraska also allows for religious discrimination in adoption. Our laws protect against discrimination against sex, but not gender or orientation.

Democratic state senator Adam Morfeld tried to open an investigation against three faith-based adoption agencies here discriminating against LGBT and atheists, but the GOP legislators shut it down.

As far as I understand, they can discriminate all they want as long as they do not take any federal funding…that is the crux of the issue here, not Religious Freedom but violation of the terms and condition under which they accept financial assistance.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:50:12am

I just woke up.
Is he mad this morning. The refuse to look at it’s feed.
Why is it mad now?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:50:19am

It really astounds me that conservatives claim to be the heirs of what MLK was trying to do and then suggest things like discrimination is okay. It’s like motherfucker do you even know what the Civil Rights Movement was about? It wasn’t just black children being banned from public schools with kids. It was giving black people second class status everywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:50:32am

And with that, it’s time for Easter Dinner for me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:51:49am

JFC

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:54:29am

Religión attacking religion. Killing for the deity/philosophy of your choice. I suspect it won’t be a bunch of atheists blowing up churches. Unless the religion merges with the state in a fascist partnership aimed at eliminating rights. Hence the quote about people not being free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:54:38am

re: #435 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As far as I understand, they can discriminate all they want as long as they do not take any federal funding…that is the crux of the issue here, not Religious Freedom but violation of the terms and condition under which they accept financial assistance.

In the case of Miracle Hill in South Carolina, they do take federal funding.

The problem is said funding goes through the state government, then is distributed to them.

Trump recently signed an order giving an exemption to South Carolina over anti-discrimination provisions in federal law.

Americans United for Separation of Church and State are pressing a lawsuit against Miracle Hill and South Carolina on behalf of a Catholic and two Jewish families.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:56:02am

I’m off to bed. It’s way past my bedtime. Catch y’all later.

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sagehen  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:57:51am

re: #440 Old Liberal

Religión attacking religion. Killing for the deity/philosophy of your choice. I suspect it won’t be a bunch of atheists blowing up churches. Unless the religion merges with the state in a fascist partnership aimed at eliminating rights. Hence the quote about people not being free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

The Tamil Tigers aren’t religiously motivated at all, it’s pure nationalism. They’re who invented the suicide vest.

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 10:59:51am

re: #443 sagehen

The Tamil Tigers aren’t religiously motivated at all, it’s pure nationalism. They’re who invented the suicide vest.

Not an expert about that but are we sure it is Tamils?

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sagehen  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:02:58am

I’m not sure if the Tamil Tigers did this one; but they have the longest history of terrorism is that country.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:03:24am

re: #444 Old Liberal

Not an expert about that but are we sure it is Tamils?

I would expect them to be attacking government institutions rather than churches.

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:07:20am

re: #445 sagehen

I’m not sure if the Tamil Tigers did this one; but they have the longest history of terrorism is that country.

Of course. I just don’t see why they would attack a specific faith as opposed to the government or general population

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:08:16am

re: #444 Old Liberal

Not an expert about that but are we sure it is Tamils?

No one is sure about anything, yet.

But here’s a bit of background via The Guardian.

Shorter: it could be anyone, but harassment of minority religions (in Sri Lanka, both Christians and Muslims) isn’t new there: and in the writer’s opinion, the government should have been more on-the-ball regarding security.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:11:46am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:12:47am

PS: Abigail Disney goes on a rant against the Disney Corp. Board on income inequality within the Disney company.

threadreaderapp.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:20:29am
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mmmirele  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:23:56am

re: #407 Hecuba’s daughter

Picketing with a sign is not inappropriate — but using a bullhorn on this day may be. I am not a Christian so am unsure about all that is considered appropriate in these circumstances. I just thought that stalking Mueller in particular on this day was wrong.

I wouldn’t go out with a bullhorn. But these guys, they have absolutely NO PROBLEM going out to the Planned Parenthood in Tempe with a bullhorn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:24:47am
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Belafon  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:29:20am

re: #414 Mattand

Honestly, I don’t. We’re at Defcon 1 with regard to the government going full Banana Republic. The investigation of Clinton was turned into an unredacted fucking paperback book within days of it’s release. Muller’s report is being redacted to protect a corrupt President.

Muller has to know this. Yet, if push comes to shove, he’ll probably just hang back and go “Hey, whaddya gonna do?” when our country goes full dictatorship.

Admittedly, a lot of this predicated on Muller wanting to go full whistle blower. Which probably will never happen.

Mueller, as someone descried, is in the camp that thinks that the president must first be removed from office in order to be charged with crimes. And he can’t remove someone from office. He left it up to Congress.

At the same time, when the Senate confirmed Barr, Mueller knew his time was up. Barr was explicitly chosen to shut the investigation down. All Mueller could do was present what he had, or Barr would have removed more from the report.

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:30:03am

re: #453 mmmirele

I wouldn’t go out with a bullhorn. But these guys, they have absolutely NO PROBLEM going out to the Planned Parenthood in Tempe with a bullhorn.

Well, they go with a bullhorn to where their target audience is concentrated. I think doing the same should not be wrong, the Golden Rule and all. Or is the golden rule for thee but not me?

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:30:54am

re: #449 Charles Johnson

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I watched CBS segment this morning about the Mueller report. If that is most people’s starting point, then we have a lot of information we have to get out before impeachment does anything but backfire on us.

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:34:37am

re: #457 Belafon

I watched CBS segment this morning about the Mueller report. If that is most people’s starting point, then we have a lot of information we have to get out before impeachment does anything but backfire on us.

And there is much more. SDNY and NYAG. Few understand emoluments and obstruction but most understand money laundering and tax evasion. Not to mention Russian loans and IC findings. Before we strike a match get all the wood in place.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2019 • 11:38:25am
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:01:56pm

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But at least there was no obstruction. NO COLLUSION!!!!

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:04:58pm
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jaunte  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:06:19pm

re: #463 Teukka

Compassion.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:07:42pm

re: #463 Teukka

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Truth

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jaunte  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:07:55pm

This is dangerous.

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makeitstop  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:09:39pm

re: #466 jaunte

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This is dangerous.

That’s a few weeks old, isn’t it? I think they sent that out right after the Barr summary.

But I get it. Still dangerous.

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:10:52pm

re: #467 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:11:00pm

re: #404 goddamnedfrank

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Yep. This is really annoying.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:13:06pm

re: #463 Teukka

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Reality.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:14:12pm

re: #472 wrenchwench

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Yep.

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:14:15pm

Mood music for this evening:

Ghostwriter - A New World Order

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A Mom Anon  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:33:45pm

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:34:29pm
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mmmirele  Apr 21, 2019 • 12:34:58pm

re: #456 Old Liberal

Well, they go with a bullhorn to where their target audience is concentrated. I think doing the same should not be wrong, the Golden Rule and all. Or is the golden rule for thee but not me?

They rent the church space (as in, the conservative Presbyterian church they’re in is renting the space to them). And the church is surrounded by houses. I live nearby. I don’t want to disturb the neighbors, because when they leave after finishing with their rented church space, I stay here. I have to be cognizant of that.

The fact is, they’re pretty gobsmacked that someone (me) would actually show up and protest them. I am not the greatest protester there ever is. I’m not very good at it at all. But they’re startled…I had the entire church body out on the lawn last Sunday.

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Old Liberal  Apr 21, 2019 • 1:14:01pm

re: #481 A Mom Anon

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A Mom Anon  Apr 21, 2019 • 3:20:36pm

re: #484 Old Liberal

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