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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2019 • 6:44:37pm

So Barr’s not going to show up tomorrow, huh?

Asshole.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2019 • 6:51:17pm
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Belafon  May 1, 2019 • 6:54:11pm

I understand he complained about media coverage. ///

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Ace-o-aces  May 1, 2019 • 6:58:10pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I say 6.5 months.

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Teukka  May 1, 2019 • 7:01:19pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 1, 2019 • 7:05:16pm

If you can’t stand the scrutiny of co-equal authority then resign as useless.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2019 • 7:06:37pm
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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 7:06:57pm
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Chrysicat  May 1, 2019 • 7:06:57pm
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freetoken  May 1, 2019 • 7:14:40pm

Your physics lesson for the night:

Why does light bend when it enters glass?

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2019 • 7:17:40pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 1, 2019 • 7:17:57pm

Australian magazine “The Monthly” finally takes stock on what Murdoch has meant to decency, democracy and western civilization:

Denialism, nihilism and the Murdoch propaganda machine

At News Corp - in an inversion of journalism’s ideal- the old-fashioned, straight-down-the-line reporting is expendable and surplus to requirements. It is the unhinged propaganda outfit that is central to the identity of the company. It is the core that is lunatic, not the fringe.

There is a theoretical particle called a graviton that is supposed to exert the weakest force in the universe, but until its discovery, the “good journalists” of News Corp will have to hold that title

Any one of these factors, by themselves, would make an entity like this dangerous. Together, they represent an existential threat to democratic society. If you think this is hypothetical, or hyperbolic, look to the US post-Trump, or the United Kingdom post-Brexit, and realise that this is what these people fought for - and they want it to happen here. “It’s mind-blowing to look at the wreckage of UK politics, realize that it’s basically all Rupert Murdoch’s fault, and then look back to the US and realize that’s *also* all Rupert Murdoch’s fault”, the American political analyst Matt Yglesias tweeted in March. It’s a simplification - these are complex, multi-factorial events (and it’s also Lachlan Murdoch’s fault) - but it is not a simplification to say that the Murdoch media has ultimately been the decisive factor. The evidence, both quantitative and anecdotal, is very clear.

Australian conservatives seemed most concerned that someone might take their racism away.

As one, they repudiated the idea that either the mainstream Australian media, the most openly and pervasively Islamophobic in the English-speaking world, or the country’s wider culture of unfettered racism had anything to do with this Islamophobic Australian murderer. He was instead inspired by the “ancient racisms of Europe and the fanaticism of medieval Christians”, according to a hastily written 300-word article by The Australian’s defence and national security editor, Paul Maley. “With Australia’s political class poised for a national bout of cultural self-loathing … it is worth noting there is zero evidence the man paid any attention to anything said or done in this country since 2014.” In fact, it was quickly revealed, the killer had posted many times on Australian far-right Facebook groups as late as 2016, and made a cash donation to an Australian anti-Muslim group, but this cheap attempt at exoneration was never amended or corrected. If there was no culpability, then why lie about it?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2019 • 7:19:26pm

So teh fee fees are above the Law. Why do we even allow this?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 1, 2019 • 7:20:50pm

re: #7 Dr. Matt

Cruise ship apparently linked to Church of Scientology quarantined due to measles

This problem could arise on any cruise ship. All you need is your tickets and passport and you can board. There is no health test to exclude anyone who might be ill. Of course, a passenger or crew member could board before they are symptomatic and not realize that they are contagious.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 1, 2019 • 7:21:39pm

For anyone who has had to deal with the hordes of disingenuous liars who descend on social media to argue both ends against the middle - Nazis should be listened to because free speech, but Black Lives Matter protesters should be locked in jail & the key thrown away …

… this graf from an Aussie mag hits it on the head about Murdoch’s shit-distribution networks:

You could make a coherent, albeit unconvincing, classical liberal free speech argument that the media doesn’t make anyone do anything, that unpleasant views are better ventilated than suppressed, that responsibility for extremism lies with the extremists themselves. But this is not at all like the mainstay of the arguments offered by News-led Australian conservatives, which rely on a bafflingly selective application of principle. If a social media giant publishes material that breaches community standards, it should be brought to heel by a regulator. But if a national newspaper does, regulating it is authoritarianism. Section 18C is a grave impediment to free speech, but the more commonly used and repressive defamation legislation is fine. Racists can express their democratic right at a neo-Nazi rally, but vegan protesters are “domestic terrorists” who need to be shut down. These contradictions are much more intelligible when seen for what they are: not tenets of a political philosophy, but aspects of a commercial strategy, a business model.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 7:23:52pm

re: #15 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Hypocrisy on a species-wide scale. Not good.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 1, 2019 • 7:25:01pm
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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 7:25:37pm

“Conservatism” today is so rotten. It makes people amoral and forces them to twist their minds in all kinds of knots to make sense of the world that they see.

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Teddy's Person  May 1, 2019 • 7:25:52pm

I susupect 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is an even more unpleasant place to be tonight.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 7:26:44pm

re: #19 Teddy’s Person

Eight days after my birthday. Let me check my calendar…

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 7:28:45pm

Billie Holiday-Strange fruit- HD

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 7:32:13pm
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Skip Intro  May 1, 2019 • 7:33:35pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

So teh fee fees are above the Law. Why do we even allow this?

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Because “we” have no say in it.

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mmmirele  May 1, 2019 • 7:33:43pm

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

This problem could arise on any cruise ship. All you need is your tickets and passport and you can board. There is no health test to exclude anyone who might be ill. Of course, a passenger or crew member could board before they are symptomatic and not realize that they are contagious.

Yeah, but what makes this super-ironic is that the Freewinds (name of Scientology ship) is the only place where Operating Thetan VIII can be delivered. It’s the highest Operating Thetan level, takes years and $$$,$$$.$$ to get to, and is only delivered on this ship. Everyone on the Freewinds is supposed to be upstat and they’re not supposed to have illnesses, like measles.

In reality, even though Scientology doesn’t have an official position on vaccines, a lot of Scientologists are really anti-medicine (“auditing and touch assists will fix that right up!”) and consequently have not gotten their vaccines. I would expect that more people are going to get sick. Additionally, the people on the Freewinds come from all over the world. More than one country is not going to want the people on the disease boat hopping planes and bringing home an epidemic to Europe, Asia, Australia…

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Hecuba's daughter  May 1, 2019 • 7:36:33pm

Barr said: “What’s with the letter? Why didn’t you pick up the phone and call me?” Well, if it’s a phone call, the conversation is a he said/(s)he said situation where there is no way to conclusively prove what was actually said; it’s all based on memory. A letter offers no similar possibility of a long-term deception about its contents, once it is published. Barr lied about the Mueller report — and that worked until it was released.

Yes — MAGAts continue to recite Barr’s original lies but others now have conclusive proof of Barr’s and Trump’s dishonesty.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2019 • 7:39:13pm
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gocart mozart  May 1, 2019 • 7:39:15pm
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EPR-radar  May 1, 2019 • 7:41:42pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

“Conservatism” today is so rotten. It makes people amoral and forces them to twist their minds in all kinds of knots to make sense of the world that they see.

People always do the choosing. Conservatism has always been the search for superior justifications for selfishness. Without the selfishness, conservatism would wither away.

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sagehen  May 1, 2019 • 7:42:53pm

I want to see Kamala Harris onstage at a debate, turning to glare at whatever opponent just said something he shouldn’t have… and very calmly remove her earrings, place them on the podium, then stalk slowly, deliberately, towards whoever, while answering.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 1, 2019 • 7:43:47pm

re: #25 Hecuba’s daughter

Barr said: “What’s with the letter? Why didn’t you pick up the phone and call me?” Well, if it’s a phone call, the conversation is a he said/(s)he said situation where there is no way to conclusively prove what was actually said; it’s all based on memory. A letter offers no similar possibility of a long-term deception about its contents, once it is published. Barr lied about the Mueller report — and that worked until it was released.

Yes — MAGAts continue to recite Barr’s original lies but others now have conclusive proof of Barr’s and Trump’s dishonesty.

FBI agents are trained to memorialize every professional encounter as soon as possible after it ends. Comey did, after his one-on-one meeting with Trump. Lawyers also know written evidence is more persuasive than recollections of verbal evidence. Recall that Trump had lawyers at one point in his career who decided that two of them would take notes every time they met with him. And Michael Cohen preserved every damned thing.

Barr, being a lawyer, should know such best practices.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2019 • 7:43:51pm
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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 7:45:41pm
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sagehen  May 1, 2019 • 7:46:40pm

re: #27 gocart mozart

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When she says that China is the only country as capable as Russia of such cyber shenanigans… she’s just incorrect.

Israel is super-competent at such things.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 1, 2019 • 7:47:02pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

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Another nasty woman. (Hurrah!)

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2019 • 7:51:35pm
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Jay C  May 1, 2019 • 7:52:58pm

re: #30 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Barr, being a lawyer, should know such best practices.

And being a top official in Donald Trump’s Administration, he probably also knows that “best practices” are neither desired or appreciated…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2019 • 7:58:20pm

re: #24 mmmirele

Yeah, but what makes this super-ironic is that the Freewinds (name of Scientology ship) is the only place where Operating Thetan VIII can be delivered. It’s the highest Operating Thetan level, takes years and $$$,$$$.$$ to get to, and is only delivered on this ship. Everyone on the Freewinds is supposed to be upstat and they’re not supposed to have illnesses, like measles.

Does that include the ship’s crew? Only one person has been reported as infected and quarantined, and she has only been referred to as a “patient”

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 1, 2019 • 7:58:59pm

re: #33 sagehen

When she says that China is the only country as capable as Russia of such cyber shenanigans… she’s just incorrect.

Israel is super-competent at such things.

Actually, it depends. In aggregate, the US is the best at hacking and penetration as a whole followed by Russia, China and then Brazil. Yeah I know. Brazil. Their guys are sharp.

If you’re looking for people to hack banks and financial sites (rather than government), then Argentina is your place. Every year, there’s a conference there of financial hackers and coders, and they get snapped up.

When it comes to finding hacking talent, Argentina stands out. Nicole Perlroth of the New York Times reports that decades of repressive military rule and unpredictable economic trends have helped give rise to a national culture where individuals are encouraged, if not forced, into coming up with creative solutions.

The Argentinian people refer to this inventive nature with the saying “atado con alambre,” which translates to “held together with wire.”

(SNIP)

This excitement has in part motivated the growth of EkoParty, the largest hacking conference in Latin America. Hundreds of Argentinian hackers, ranging in ages from 14-45, attended this year to show off their skills to Synack, Deloitte, ESET and other security firms.

Government officials and contractors from around the world were also in attendance; if they liked what they saw, they had the option of offering a hacker a purchase, contract or research position all in an effort to increase their arsenal of zero-day exploits.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 7:59:30pm
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Skip Intro  May 1, 2019 • 8:00:39pm

re: #39 teleskiguy

Does he call them every fucking day now?

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2019 • 8:01:32pm
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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 8:02:47pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

Seems like it. Some intrepid Twitter user or blogger may have a database of his call-ins to Fox News. I’m positive he’s been interacting with them on air more since the (redacted) Mueller Report was released.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2019 • 8:07:05pm
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Skip Intro  May 1, 2019 • 8:08:11pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Looks like every other day now.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 8:16:03pm

The stupid asshole is tweeting Fox News clips.

Dan Scavino is in his bedroom, Melania is probably pouting in the corner.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 8:16:27pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 1, 2019 • 8:19:36pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

LOL they blocked me.

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Ace Rothstein  May 1, 2019 • 8:22:03pm

re: #29 sagehen

I want Kamala Harris to be Attorney General.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 8:24:48pm

re: #48 Ace Rothstein

I want Kamala Harris to be Attorney General.

I’ll take her as POTUS but if she’s not the nominee, she needs to be seriously considered for AG.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 1, 2019 • 8:26:03pm

re: #48 Ace Rothstein

I want Kamala Harris to be Attorney General.

Hey I said that three threads ago, go back and upding. I’m going to sleep.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 8:27:44pm

re: #47 Ace Rothstein

LOL they blocked me.

I love surprises like that! That happened to me with @BryanJFischer.

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2019 • 8:30:23pm

Trump is retweeting Judicial watch. This and 4 others

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Barefoot Grin  May 1, 2019 • 8:30:47pm

“An embarrassment of riches”—an ironic turn of phrase if ever there was one: the ability to feel embarrassed, for many of our 1% and above is inversely proportional to their wealth.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 8:32:39pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

Trump is retweeting Judicial watch. This and 4 others

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They were surveilling the Russians your camp was talking to.

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Barefoot Grin  May 1, 2019 • 8:32:47pm

re: #53 Barefoot Grin

“An embarrassment of riches”—an ironic turn of phrase if ever there was one: the ability to feel embarrassed, for many of our 1% and above is inversely proportional to their wealth.

I didn’t check the actual origin and meaning of the phrase, so release the pedant hounds!

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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 8:33:54pm

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jaunte  May 1, 2019 • 8:34:03pm

Cable news talking heads still taking the view from nowhere, treating the Trump administration’s criminality like a problem exclusively for Democratic politicians, as if the rest of us have no stake in the rule of law.

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Barefoot Grin  May 1, 2019 • 8:34:30pm

Welp:

“It was when Trump ran that the whole world started to change,” McHugh said. “And Breitbart developed a rather different culture. … There was a noticeable change. And the thing is, I think Breitbart — and let me preface this by saying I take responsibility for all my actions. Everything I said that was terrible was my fault. However, I think that people’s flaws were encouraged. I think Milo’s fame should not have been encouraged — it was very bad for him. And my vindictiveness and my capacity for cruelty were encouraged.”

Interesting article on Katie McHugh, supposedly reformed alt-righter.

buzzfeednews.com

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 8:35:56pm

re: #56 ckkatz

YOINK!

Thanks!

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mmmirele  May 1, 2019 • 8:38:41pm

re: #37 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Does that include the ship’s crew? Only one person has been reported as infected and quarantined, and she has only been referred to as a “patient”

Yeah, they have metrics they have to meet. Sometimes people can’t go on course until they’ve been $haken down even more for the late$t Org, book $eries or whatever. These require up$tat $ea Org members to do the armtwi$ting.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 8:40:01pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

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Barefoot Grin  May 1, 2019 • 8:46:08pm

The dilemma for writers today: “I’ve spent 263 characters on this tweet, how can I launch my career in 17 more”

I keed, I keed

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 8:47:04pm

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

Welp:

“It was when Trump ran that the whole world started to change,” McHugh said. “And Breitbart developed a rather different culture. … There was a noticeable change. And the thing is, I think Breitbart — and let me preface this by saying I take responsibility for all my actions. Everything I said that was terrible was my fault. However, I think that people’s flaws were encouraged. I think Milo’s fame should not have been encouraged — it was very bad for him. And my vindictiveness and my capacity for cruelty were encouraged.”

Interesting article on Katie McHugh, supposedly reformed alt-righter.

buzzfeednews.com

That was some read. Jesus.

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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 8:48:39pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

You are most welcome. Thank you for all that you bring to lgf. Feel free to let us know about any articles you find worthwhile.

And definitely _Please_ do not tear your hair out! To paraphrase Patton…
Your job is not tear your hair out. Your job is to make them tear their hair out. :)

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 8:53:49pm

Anyhow I remember Katie McHugh. One thing that keeps getting to me is that a lot of the alt right are young. Younger than me. We talk about the right as we know it dying out and die it out the old guard will but the young right aren’t filled with more open minded individuals. They are the people talked about in the Buzzfeed article. They are who is rising in the ranks of GOP politics. This frightens me. We will outnumber them but the right is growing more white nationalist.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 1, 2019 • 8:54:48pm
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retired cynic  May 1, 2019 • 8:55:07pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Or maybe, just a few of them will “grow up” and realize they are off the track.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 8:56:50pm

re: #67 retired cynic

Or maybe, just a few of them will “grow up” and realize they are off the track.

A few of them will. But the ones who will be the face of the right over the next generation won’t. I’m sorry to sound cynical but we have a serious mainstreaming of white nationalism problem in our country.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 8:58:35pm

re: #66 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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re: #66 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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This is scary shit.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 9:00:31pm

re: #64 ckkatz

You are most welcome. Thank you for all that you bring to lgf. Feel free to let us know about any articles you find worthwhile.

And definitely _Please_ do not tear your hair out! To paraphrase Patton…
Your job is not tear your hair out. Your job is to make them tear their hair out. :)

I’ve got so much fuckin’ hair on my head, when properly washed and brushed out it goes to me ass! If all that hair gets ripped out in a month I’ve got major psychological problems that involve the police.

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Scottish Dragon  May 1, 2019 • 9:03:41pm
“Get Out While You Can”

Once notorious for her racist and bigoted tweets, Katie McHugh saw the dark insides of the white nationalist movement.

buzzfeednews.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2019 • 9:07:23pm

Apparently, the secret to herding cats is to start training them when young.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 9:08:21pm

re: #71 Scottish Dragon

buzzfeednews.com

Just read it. I really don’t know what to make of her. She seems contrite sometimes but thinks it was all in humor others. People like me weren’t the subject of her racist rants tho.

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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 9:26:36pm

re: #71 Scottish Dragon

buzzfeednews.com

Sigh…

One never knows whether a sudden change of heart of an attention seeking troll is sincere or just an updated grifting strategy.

Based upon the ones I knew back in the 1970’s, quite a few of the neo-Nazis have lots of problems (social, personal, mental and/or physical). And more than a few are borderline functional.

I guess that I have some sympathy for her at the generic level of all who share the human condition. And I hope that she is sincere in her change. I am grateful that the neo-Nazi noise machine is at least a bit quieter with her (reported) exit.

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Teukka  May 1, 2019 • 9:34:10pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

re: #74 ckkatz

She isn’t the only one in the alt-right that has seen the proverbial light and gotten out, I know of at least another person (not as heavily involved). I would go “trust, but verify” on this one, and hope that the numbers of people who bail out before the big wreck increases exponentially.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 1, 2019 • 9:35:23pm
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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 9:35:31pm

re: #74 ckkatz

Sigh…

One never knows whether a sudden change of heart of an attention seeking troll is sincere or just an updated grifting strategy.

Based upon the ones I knew back in the 1970’s, quite a few of the neo-Nazis have lots of problems (social, personal, mental and/or physical). And more than a few are borderline functional.

I guess that I have some sympathy for her at the generic level of all who share the human condition. And I hope that she is sincere in her change. I am grateful that the neo-Nazi noise machine is at least a bit quieter with her (reported) exit.

It really is hard to tell. I want to hope she’s sincere but I have nothing to trust her either. I’m more saddened than angry by their existence. Sad that people who had similar curriculum in school to me seemed to learn nothing. I grew up learning about things like the Holocaust and Jim Crow. I literally cried at Auschwitz this past summer. I usually am reluctant to show emotion around strangers. But I couldn’t help myself. I’m sorry if I sound like I’m rambling but how McHugh and her former allies seem to want to replicate the same policies that led to world war and genocide. This nationalism isn’t this great, misunderstood thing. It’s awful.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 9:36:11pm

re: #75 Teukka

She isn’t the only one in the alt-right that has seen the proverbial light and gotten out, I know of at least another person (not as heavily involved). I would go “trust, but verify” on this one, and hope that the numbers of people who bail out before the big wreck increases exponentially.

Said it better than I could.

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unproven innocence  May 1, 2019 • 9:46:16pm

Russian interference in domestic US politics was successful in 2016, and it is likely to be repeated just as vigorously, if not more so, and in new ways, in 2020. Maddow & Hillary:

Hillary Clinton: Mueller Report Shows That The Russians Were Successful | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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Teukka  May 1, 2019 • 9:46:44pm

re: #74 ckkatz

As to the alt-righties that I have seen in Stockholm making fools out of themselves a lá permit Patty, each one has struck me as having issues, and not just because of the things they say, but the way in which they go on and on and how they say things.

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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 9:47:09pm

Hmm, one more Swedish song. I hope that Teukka will correct me with any mis-statements as I may not have the correct cultural or linguistic context.

But, as I understand it, this song is a cultural memory of the conversion from Paganism to Christianity. The lyrics were reportedly dated to the 1700’s and the memories go back perhaps 500-700 years before that. It talks about that turmoil in one family and it’s tragic results.

This version of Swedish, I am told, is an older form. It is sung by a group from a Swedish speaking part of Finland.

Gjallarhorn - I Riden Så (Lyrics / Letra)

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Teukka  May 1, 2019 • 9:50:45pm

re: #80 Teukka

Example of the tone of voice, although I am a lot louder than either of them law enforcement officers…

Armed police make arrest in Stockholm

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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 9:53:24pm

re: #80 Teukka

As to the alt-righties that I have seen in Stockholm making fools out of themselves a lá permit Patty, each one has struck me as having issues, and not just because of the things they say, but the way in which they go on and on and how they say things.

Yes, the same thing is happening here. And I am sure that you have seen some of the videos and read some of the articles.

Some jerk feels emboldened to bully people they see as weak or marginal. Usually it’s something that is related to a cultural marker which defines the bullied person as an outsider.

I am so sorry that you and your ex had to endure this drek. And I am glad that you stood up to it. Sadly, here in the US, several folks have been shot or knifed when they stood up to the bully.

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Teukka  May 1, 2019 • 9:59:45pm

re: #81 ckkatz

Hmm, one more Swedish song. I hope that Teukka will correct me with any mis-statements as I may not have the correct cultural or linguistic context.

But, as I understand it, this song is a cultural memory of the conversion from Paganism to Christianity. The lyrics were reportedly dated to the 1700’s and the memories go back perhaps 500-700 years before that. It talks about that turmoil in one family and it’s tragic results.

This version of Swedish is an older form. And it is sung by a group from a Swedish speaking part of Finland.

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As a side note, there are differences in the Swedish spoken in Finland vs. Sweden. The Finnish Swedish uses older spelling and words. It has to do with that the Swedish-speaking population was isolated from the mainland since 1809. So, less of a jump linguistically for a Fenno-Swede than a native…

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Teukka  May 1, 2019 • 10:02:12pm

re: #84 Teukka

And there are dialects in Norway which are so like Swedish you have to have more than a passing knowledge of Swedish to recognize this as Bergensian Norwegian rather than Swedish:

Two Steps From Hell - Compass Feat. Merethe Soltvedt (Miracles)

h/t: Thomas J. Bergersen and Merethe Soltvedt.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2019 • 10:05:13pm

re: #80 Teukka

As to the alt-righties that I have seen in Stockholm making fools out of themselves a lá permit Patty, each one has struck me as having issues, and not just because of the things they say, but the way in which they go on and on and how they say things.

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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 10:09:26pm

re: #82 Teukka

I found several things quite interesting about this video.

First, that the female uniformed officer, and I presume, the male officer, had her pistol out during the stop. Is that standard these days?

In the US, it is generally a statement that the officer is concerned about the stopped person being violent. I had never really considered that there was that much violence against police in Sweden. (Or is it a bleed off from US Policing methods?)

Second, that it took a while before the female officer decided to brush the snow off the detained female. That can often be a psychological statement and control method from the officer.

And yes, command voice can be very helpful in assuring that the recipient hears, understands, and ‘gets’ the command. I was taught that by my father, who served in the US Army during WW2. And again, when I went into the Army.

You are right, it can make a _big_ difference in how a situation resolves.

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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 10:13:10pm

re: #85 Teukka

And there are dialects in Norway which are so like Swedish you have to have more than a passing knowledge of Swedish to recognize this as Bergensian Norwegian rather than Swedish:

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h/t: Thomas J. Bergersen and Merethe Soltvedt.

My sister married into a family originally from Garberg, Norway. And they have mentioned that the Norwegian dialect in Garberg is very similar to Swedish. I will say that, having met many of that family, every lady in that family is exceedingly beautiful.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 1, 2019 • 10:16:55pm
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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 10:25:52pm

re: #89 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

That is fascinating. And, as mentioned in the article, it comes at a time when the Trump Administration is attempting to shut down Venezuelan and Iranian oil in order (I presume) to bolster Russian exports.

And yes, I expect the Russian security services to come down heavily on whoever screwed this up. One does not mess with Putin, or his friends’ income.

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sagehen  May 1, 2019 • 10:41:48pm

re: #75 Teukka

She isn’t the only one in the alt-right that has seen the proverbial light and gotten out, I know of at least another person (not as heavily involved). I would go “trust, but verify” on this one, and hope that the numbers of people who bail out before the big wreck increases exponentially.

“Saw the light”? Maybe saw the consequences of being publicly outed. I remember some of the people who got doxxed after Charleston losing their jobs, having their families publicly denounce them, decent people who google them will know about it and not want to be associated with them…

Tears of a Nazi. American Nazi Chris Cantwell Broken and Sobbing Since His Vice Video

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2019 • 10:49:33pm

Well, tomorrow’s my big day at the doc, so I won’t be on long tonight.

Whatever the problem is, I hope they figure it out. I’m really tired of the tit pain.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 10:50:25pm

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹

Where’s the appointment?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 1, 2019 • 10:53:16pm
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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 10:55:02pm

I want to take Joe Walsh deep into a National Forest Wilderness, like Holy Cross or Weminuche, and him and I would take some psilocybin mushrooms, and just talk on a rock overlooking a high alpine lake with huge steep mountains all around us.

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DodgerFan1988  May 1, 2019 • 10:55:47pm
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Teukka  May 1, 2019 • 11:06:07pm

re: #87 ckkatz

I found several things quite interesting about this video.

First, that the female uniformed officer, and I presume, the male officer, had her pistol out during the stop. Is that standard these days?

In the US, it is generally a statement that the officer is concerned about the stopped person being violent. I had never really considered that there was that much violence against police in Sweden. (Or is it a bleed off from US Policing methods?)

Second, that it took a while before the female officer decided to brush the snow off the detained female. That can often be a psychological statement and control method from the officer.

And yes, command voice can be very helpful in assuring that the recipient hears, understands, and ‘gets’ the command. I was taught that by my father, who served in the US Army during WW2. And again, when I went into the Army.

You are right, it can make a _big_ difference in how a situation resolves.

If I recall the story right, this car decided to try to skip past a police checkpoint after a robbery alarm, which isn’t a good idea in any jurisdiction. This is filmed after a brief chase which ended just before.
Generally, whether or not a Swedish police officer draws his/her service firearm depends on the threat the person aimed at poses to his surroundings, and there are further thresholds that determine whether police skip the warning rounds, fire at your extremities or fires for lethal effect, as well as whether they use their pistol or the CO gives them the permission to break out the CGA5P. This clip shows an example on the threshold to draw/holster the firearm.

Hökarängen Knivman

Yep, local racial pride squad *sigh*

As to helping, Swedish police are trained to go into “serve” mode as soon as the threat ends, I think you’ve seen the video of the Swedish cops making an arrest in the NYC subway. It’s not as much a control method as it is the general training for police to try to deescalate any dangerous situation. In the video above, you see how police immediately go into first aid mode once the have the perp pinned.

As to police encountering violence, it happens regularly, but not that many have been murdered in the line of duty (and the training to aim for deescalation is to thank for that). spmp.se for more information.

And of all people, those who taught me the command tone were my electronics teachers in school. :)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2019 • 11:19:07pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

Where’s the appointment?

At the hospital in Scottsbluff.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2019 • 11:19:45pm

re: #96 DodgerFan1988

Interesting article, exposes how the alt-right uses the alienation of loner losers and radicalizes them by rewarding extremism.

Worst part was reading that she went to the same college as Mrs.FBW and me.

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Teukka  May 1, 2019 • 11:25:17pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

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re: #83 ckkatz

Yes, the same thing is happening here. And I am sure that you have seen some of the videos and read some of the articles.

Some jerk feels emboldened to bully people they see as weak or marginal. Usually it’s something that is related to a cultural marker which defines the bullied person as an outsider.

I am so sorry that you and your ex had to endure this drek. And I am glad that you stood up to it. Sadly, here in the US, several folks have been shot or knifed when they stood up to the bully.

I know that acting against a bigoted bully comes with a risk, but I feel that one needs to act or it only emboldens them when people do nothing. My recipe is to show with demeanor that I won’t take bullshit, be prepared for an attack without overtly showing it, and have ridiculous forbearance. The latter two provides for a good element of surprise when you are forced to attack (I won’t use force unless someone attacks me, and knowing myself, I will most likely turn a deflection maneuver into a counterattack to disable).

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DodgerFan1988  May 1, 2019 • 11:26:46pm
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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 11:29:36pm

re: #101 DodgerFan1988

That dude was a far right political operative for Breitbart once upon a time…

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 11:35:47pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 1, 2019 • 11:40:22pm
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teleskiguy  May 1, 2019 • 11:41:56pm

Yeah, fuck Kurt Bardella. His oeuvre is disgusting, no amount of apologizing or rising in the ranks of punditry will absolve how much Kurt Bardella is a stupid dumb hateful fucking moron.

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ckkatz  May 1, 2019 • 11:59:19pm

re: #97 Teukka

I see some very interesting cultural differences between Swedish socialization versus US socialization. How the Swedish police interact and, on that basis, how expected risk is judged.

In general, it seems to me that the Swedish Police adopted a stance that seems to indicate they were expecting both a lower chance of violence and a lower level of violence than US police generally would plan for.

These two ultra-violent incidents shaped a good bit of police response in the US:

North Hollywood Shooting

FBI Miami Shootout

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ckkatz  May 2, 2019 • 12:03:09am

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

Hello Meadville. :)

Don’t we have a lizard up that way?

Years ago I spent several summers working at a Boy Scout Camp on the Tionesta Reservoir in Allegheny National Forest.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 12:13:28am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

That’s what, a buck twenty on the odometer?

I hope it works out, my friend! You’ve got my thoughts and stuff!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 12:28:55am

Unshaken Defiance called out my typo in the title of my flag article. Pesky letter B is right next to V. I fixed it. Thanks.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 12:31:53am

re: #108 teleskiguy

That’s what, a buck twenty on the odometer?

I hope it works out, my friend! You’ve got my thoughts and stuff!

Thanks, I appreciate it.

I’m not really worried at the moment, because there isn’t much of anything I can do about it now.

Moreover, the test could come up with something different, or nothing at all.

I’ll see about worrying after I get the results of the test.

I am taking a camera tomorrow, hoping to be allowed to photograph the machinery used. If this does come up as cancer rather than something else, then I’ll start writing about that over in the right-hand column here (male breast cancer being so rare, figure it’s worth the educational time for me and anyone who wants to know about it - plus LGF articles get sent out on Twitter so others might see them too).

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 12:44:00am

re: #106 ckkatz

I see some very interesting cultural differences between Swedish socialization versus US socialization. How the Swedish police interact and, on that basis, how expected risk is judged.

In general, it seems to me that the Swedish Police adopted a stance that seems to indicate they were expecting both a lower chance of violence and a lower level of violence than US police generally would plan for.

These two ultra-violent incidents shaped a good bit of police response in the US:

North Hollywood Shooting

FBI Miami Shootout

There is a certain amount of privilege in how the police here treat people who are pulled over though.

When I was stopped last year by the Nebraska State Patrol on US-30 half a mile past Pine Bluffs, Wyoming for exceeding the speed limit, the officer sat behind us for a few minutes while he ran our license plates, then walked up to the car and initiated pleasant conversation. At no time did he move his hand anywhere near his pistol, nor did he have a partner nor wait for back-up.

I was pleasant to him in turn (he was just doing his job and I was speeding), handed over my license (with VETERAN emblazoned on it), insurance, and registration. He walked back to his car and ran the information.

He came back and chided me on how dangerous that stretch of US-30 is, then wrote me a written warning.

(Since then, the state has raised the speed limit on that stretch of road. Today I wouldn’t be stopped.)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 12:45:51am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

On the other hand, he might have issued the written warning because he didn’t want to run someone in for speeding in a Smart. That might be embarrassing.

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ckkatz  May 2, 2019 • 1:05:24am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

On the other hand, he might have issued the written warning because he didn’t want to run someone in for speeding in a Smart. That might be embarrassing.

:)

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ckkatz  May 2, 2019 • 1:09:26am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

There is a certain amount of privilege in how the police here treat people who are pulled over though.

When I was stopped last year by the Nebraska State Patrol on US-30 half a mile past Pine Bluffs, Wyoming for exceeding the speed limit, the officer sat behind us for a few minutes while he ran our license plates, then walked up to the car and initiated pleasant conversation. At no time did he move his hand anywhere near his pistol, nor did he have a partner nor wait for back-up.

I was pleasant to him in turn (he was just doing his job and I was speeding), handed over my license (with VETERAN emblazoned on it), insurance, and registration. He walked back to his car and ran the information.

He came back and chided me on how dangerous that stretch of US-30 is, then wrote me a written warning.

(Since then, the state has raised the speed limit on that stretch of road. Today I wouldn’t be stopped.)

Agreed!

I am a geezerly white guy and I suspect that I would be treated much better than a Young black or Latin male. And of course, a female cousin told of when she was in her late teens, getting stopped for going over 80mph and getting off with a warning.

Of course I also have a philosophy that little good comes from aggravating a cop.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 2, 2019 • 2:05:15am

re: #96 DodgerFan1988

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It is a good note that being an open racist has rendered her unemployable outside if diners. With her diabetes, her very survival now depends on health care reform by the Democrats.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 2:13:28am

re: #7 Dr. Matt

Cruise ship apparently linked to Church of Scientology quarantined due to measles

How does the Church of Scientology stand on vaccination?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 3:08:17am

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

I think Milo’s fame should not have been encouraged — it was very bad for him. And my vindictiveness and my capacity for cruelty were encouraged.”

I also see that the alt-right also encourages certain personality types: rudely aggressive, contrarian, confrontational.

And when they get people riled up, they then pretend to back off and claim it was just humor and one should not be such an oversensitive snowflake.

All about wresting control of the interaction and asserting dominance.

Milo fit that like a plug and that is what made him so appealing to them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 3:09:40am

re: #74 ckkatz

Based upon the ones I knew back in the 1970’s, quite a few of the neo-Nazis have lots of problems (social, personal, mental and/or physical). And more than a few are borderline functional.

Germany even has programs to help people re-adjust psychologically and socially after abandoning the neo-Nazi scene.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 3:11:21am

re: #106 ckkatz

I see some very interesting cultural differences between Swedish socialization versus US socialization. How the Swedish police interact and, on that basis, how expected risk is judged.

US police have to assume that person in car can be armed and dangerous. Less so in Sweden.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 3:38:28am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks, I appreciate it.

I’m not really worried at the moment, because there isn’t much of anything I can do about it now.

Moreover, the test could come up with something different, or nothing at all.

I’ll see about worrying after I get the results of the test.

I am taking a camera tomorrow, hoping to be allowed to photograph the machinery used. If this does come up as cancer rather than something else, then I’ll start writing about that over in the right-hand column here (male breast cancer being so rare, figure it’s worth the educational time for me and anyone who wants to know about it - plus LGF articles get sent out on Twitter so others might see them too).

Couldn’t sleep so I’m uploading files while it is free on my satellite service. Good lord do I have a mess of files to clean up.

Something for Anymouse:

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 4:06:14am

Tennesseine
@Tennesseine

Barr’s being such a pussy about facing the House Judiciary Committee that I’m shocked Trump hasn’t grabbed him yet

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 4:32:47am

Something to consider: How would yesterday have gone if the Mueller letter was never made public? Personal guess: Barr would have sat there far more confidently, constantly refraining that if Bob Mueller had wanted to charge Trump, he would have but he didn’t and instead left that up to his boss to decide.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 4:49:28am

re: #122 Targetpractice

Something to consider: How would yesterday have gone if the Mueller letter was never made public? Personal guess: Barr would have sat there far more confidently, constantly refraining that if Bob Mueller had wanted to charge Trump, he would have but he didn’t and instead left that up to his boss to decide.

I’m still surprised Barr released the redacted report. Anyone who reads it would be able to see Barr and his boss are both full of shit.

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 5:02:09am

re: #123 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’m still surprised Barr released the redacted report. Anyone who reads it would be able to see Barr and his boss are both full of shit.

I think it was Hoarsewhisperer who noted that Barr is a political dinosaur these days, his way of coverups totally out of place in the era of social media. His plan seemed to be that he’d release his letter to Congress on a Sunday and by the time Monday came along the media would have settled on the “This is a total exoneration for Trump!” storyline.

Then slow-walk the Report’s release while the White House and Congressional Republicans made a huge stink in the press about how Democrats won’t “just move on.” The media would certainly have had an easier time convincing folks that the matter was turning “partisan” because it would look like the Democrats refusing to accept Mueller’s conclusions.

And then finally the Report would be released in the middle of an otherwise busy news week, with a reiteration of his letter as a live presser where he tried to hammer home that his summaries of the Report’s conclusions were in line with DOJ policy and the relevant laws. The Report would be dropped like a cow pie on Congress’ doorstep, filtering through to the media by lunch time and lost in the scrum by that evening. And the media would only publish those portions that fit a short news story rather than an in-depth analysis, so it could be days or weeks before a significant portion of the public read the Report in full and knew he was a fucking liar.

Back before Twitter and Facebook, such a tactic might have worked well. He would have sat before Congress yesterday and been confident that most of the people tuning in had no fucking clue what Democrats were talking about when they referenced the Report or specific pages. If anything, it would look like Democrats were being “mean” and “angry” towards him for not just accepting the conclusions of the Report.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 5:09:25am

re: #124 Targetpractice

Indeed, it went viral once people had the PDF of the report at their disposal.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:09:31am

re: #124 Targetpractice

I think it was Hoarsewhisperer who noted that Barr is a political dinosaur these days, his way of coverups totally out of place in the era of social media. His plan seemed to be that he’d release his letter to Congress on a Sunday and by the time Monday came along the media would have settled on the “This is a total exoneration for Trump!” storyline.

Then slow-walk the Report’s release while the White House and Congressional Republicans made a huge stink in the press about how Democrats won’t “just move on.” The media would certainly have had an easier time convincing folks that the matter was turning “partisan” because it would look like the Democrats refusing to accept Mueller’s conclusions.

And then finally the Report would be released in the middle of an otherwise busy news week, with a reiteration of his letter as a live presser where he tried to hammer home that his summaries of the Report’s conclusions were in line with DOJ policy and the relevant laws. The Report would be dropped like a cow pie on Congress’ doorstep, filtering through to the media by lunch time and lost in the scrum by that evening. And the media would only publish those portions that fit a short news story rather than an in-depth analysis, so it could be days or weeks before a significant portion of the public read the Report in full and knew he was a fucking liar.

Back before Twitter and Facebook, such a tactic might have worked well. He would have sat before Congress yesterday and been confident that most of the people tuning in had no fucking clue what Democrats were talking about when they referenced the Report or specific pages. If anything, it would look like Democrats were being “mean” and “angry” towards him for not just accepting the conclusions of the Report.

I think HorseW was right about that. News and information travel a lot quicker than they did in the early 90’s. Barr hasn’t served in government since then.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 5:10:45am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

I think HorseW was right about that. News and information travel a lot quicker than they did in the early 90’s. Barr hasn’t served in government since then.

It’s one of the few times the truth got its shoes on quick enough to catch up with the lies running around the world.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 5:13:00am

re: #124 Targetpractice

Very true: and it seems like Barr’s strategy did play out just like this. Except, of course, that we got to the “fucking liar” part a lot more quickly and (thanks to social media) thoroughly than expected.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2019 • 5:13:18am

The Alabama bill essentially outlawing all abortions has passed both the state house and senate. Most Democrats had already walked out, leaving the final count 74-3. At least the GOP governor who signs it will be female, so there’s that.

alreporter.com

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:13:52am

I’m trying to understand Barr’s motivations tho. He was AG under a Republican administration that the Trumpers hate and I read he donated heavily to Jeb. I think it’s Occams Razor. Barr is simply a GOP partisan. He would do this for any administration as long as they were Republican.

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 5:13:55am

re: #125 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Indeed, it went viral once people had the PDF of the report at their disposal.

It didn’t simply go viral, but so did the analysis of it. When you have legal experts, current/former politicians, and media personalities weighing in on the report within an hour of its release…well, the idea that you can rely upon people’s ignorance to save you is foolhardy at best.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:15:27am

re: #127 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It’s one of the few times the truth got its shoes on quick enough to catch up with the lies running around the world.

Very quickly. And you know what, we gotta play that to our advantage whenever and wherever.

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 5:15:29am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

I’m trying to understand Barr’s motivations tho. He was AG under a Republican administration that the Trumpers hate and I read he donated heavily to Jeb. I think it’s Occams Razor. Barr is simply a GOP partisan. He would do this for any administration as long as they were Republican.

Two words: Partisan hack. He sent his “opinion” to the White House unsolicited, it isn’t as though they went out looking for him.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:16:30am

re: #131 Targetpractice

It didn’t simply go viral, but so did the analysis of it. When you have legal experts, current/former politicians, and media personalities weighing in on the report within an hour of its release…well, the idea that you can rely upon people’s ignorance to save you is foolhardy at best.

Yep. Good point.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:17:44am

re: #133 Targetpractice

Two words: Partisan hack. He sent his “opinion” to the White House unsolicited, it isn’t as though they went out looking for him.

Yeah. The Trump WH definitely wasn’t considering him to replace Sessions. And once again, how fucked is it that Sessions seems to have been relatively ethical.

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 5:22:50am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Yeah. The Trump WH definitely wasn’t considering him to replace Sessions. And once again, how fucked is it that Sessions seems to have been relatively ethical.

He was a racist elf but he seemed to have some measure of honor, not simply recusing himself from the investigation but refusing to bend to demands he investigate Trump’s political enemies. But like so many others who have that “but,” the reality remains that he worked for Trump and so his legacy (such as it is) will always end on that smell of rancid shit.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:26:14am

re: #136 Targetpractice

He was a racist elf but he seemed to have some measure of honor, not simply recusing himself from the investigation but refusing to bend to demands he investigate Trump’s political enemies. But like so many others who have that “but,” the reality remains that he worked for Trump and so his legacy (such as it is) will always end on that smell of rancid shit.

He refused to do Trump’s investigation of HRC too. Tells me that even a bigoted asshole like him has limits.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 5:34:05am

re: #103 teleskiguy

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That’s not what a hypocrite is.

Adding:

Now, if he had accused Democrats of doing it, yes. But I didn’t see any of that.

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jeffreyw  May 2, 2019 • 5:46:11am

Good morning!

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 5:50:57am

re: #125 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Indeed, it went viral once people had the PDF of the report at their disposal.

It was converted to searchable text within a couple of hours. They definitely weren’t counting on that. I bet they thought people would have to type it in.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:54:11am

re: #140 Belafon

It was converted to searchable text within a couple of hours. They definitely weren’t counting on that. I bet they thought people would have to type it in.

From what I understand, Trump really doesn’t understand Twitter beyond tweeting.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2019 • 5:58:11am

re: #136 Targetpractice

He was a racist elf but he seemed to have some measure of honor, not simply recusing himself from the investigation but refusing to bend to demands he investigate Trump’s political enemies. But like so many others who have that “but,” the reality remains that he worked for Trump and so his legacy (such as it is) will always end on that smell of rancid shit.

Unless he has earned enough wiggle room to write a strong self-absolving biography. He could make his case and a few Yankee dollars dumping the crap on a repudiated Trump administration. There’s a strong tradition of that in the Lost-Cause culture.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:02:21am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

Unless he has earned enough wiggle room to write a strong self-absolving biography. He could make his case and a few Yankee dollars dumping the crap on a repudiated Trump administration. There’s a strong tradition of that in the Lost-Cause culture.

I’m sure it’s in the works. So it’s clear. Fuck Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III. He’s the one who brought Stephen Miller into Washington and helped legitimize Trump’s candidacy as his first Senate endorser but it’s downright disturbing that he’s one of the ethical ones relatively speaking.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 6:02:47am

re: #57 jaunte

Cable news talking heads still taking the view from nowhere, treating the Trump administration’s criminality like a problem exclusively for Democratic politicians, as if the rest of us have no stake in the rule of law.

…they have written off all republican senators and congresspeople as not caring (because they dont)

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 6:05:26am

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

Welp:

“It was when Trump ran that the whole world started to change,” McHugh said. “And Breitbart developed a rather different culture. … There was a noticeable change. And the thing is, I think Breitbart — and let me preface this by saying I take responsibility for all my actions. Everything I said that was terrible was my fault. However, I think that people’s flaws were encouraged. I think Milo’s fame should not have been encouraged — it was very bad for him. And my vindictiveness and my capacity for cruelty were encouraged.”

Interesting article on Katie McHugh, supposedly reformed alt-righter.

buzzfeednews.com

Holy cow…that picture is…something. Like a jigsaw human being.

Where was McHugh radicalized? Her story is about support systems and pipelines. It’s about how an angry young conservative with reactionary views got herself involved with a small coterie of ideologues in Washington and prepped for a conservative media career in the crucial years before the rise of Donald Trump, as extremism became more popular on the right and as people could optimize themselves for success through attention on social media. It’s about how the organizations she worked for either turned a blind eye to or were genuinely ignorant of the fact that one of their young stars was leading a double life among hardcore racist activists. And it’s about how the cultlike atmosphere of the so-called alt-right helped people make more and more harmful decisions.

Not with that face, toots. First, you’re not blonde and you’re nowhere near pretty enough to be have a conservative media career. You’re a tad too chubby for the short skirted, crossed leg to maximize thigh visibility, giving old, lecherous white dudes their cherished woody-while-imbibing-fake-news.

Not a chance I will ever feel for you, either. Maybe you can panhandle for the drugs your cohorts plan on taking away from you.

Womp. Fucking. Womp.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:09:22am

re: #145 MsJ

Holy cow…that picture is…something. Like a jigsaw human being.

Not with that face, toots. First, you’re not blonde and you’re nowhere near pretty enough to be have a conservative media career. You’re a tad too chubby for the short skirted, crossed leg to maximize thigh visibility, giving old, lecherous white dudes their cherished woody-while-imbibing-fake-news.

Not a chance I will ever feel for you, either. Maybe you can panhandle for the drugs your cohorts plan on taking away from you.

Womp. Fucking. Womp.

Well she did succeed in some ways just not in FNC but on Twitter. I honestly ain’t feeling too sympathetic either. That article was a fascinating inside look at the Alt-Right though. I was particularly interested reading about the fighting between the Trump supporters like Bannon and the Cruz supporters at Breitbart. You know me, I’ve always been fascinated by the little differences within ideologies. And that article convinces me more and more that Steve Bannon is one of the worst people in American political journalism. He’s a white supremacist douchebag who encourages other people to be the worst people they can.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 6:09:46am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:10:53am

re: #147 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I hate that asshole.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 6:12:21am

re: #147 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He ‘refuses to be extradited.’ How cute.

You don’t get a vote, asshole.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 6:13:16am

Contempt charges coming.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 6:15:08am

re: #150 Dave In Austin

Contempt charges coming.

For who?
Barr (I hope)?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 6:16:13am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

From what I understand, Trump really doesn’t understand Twitter beyond tweeting.

Most of his Cabinet are olds, who have barely mastered emails and texting. Bannon would have known better, but he’s gone.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 6:18:13am

re: #145 MsJ

The eyebrows seem … pasted on.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:18:21am

re: #152 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Most of his Cabinet are olds, who have barely mastered emails and texting. Bannon would have known better, but he’s gone.

Yeah Bannon is a rare older guy who isn’t Tech Savvy. I’m definitely familiar with older men and women like that. It took my Dad quite awhile to master email. And unlike Barr, he doesn’t have a cadre of assistants to help him so he had to learn out of necessity.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 6:18:26am

re: #74 ckkatz

Sigh…

One never knows whether a sudden change of heart of an attention seeking troll is sincere or just an updated grifting strategy.

Does it matter? I will wait a few years before giving any allowance. Sorry, but you need to be not shitty for a while before I am willing to say someone has changed.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 6:19:37am

re: #152 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Most of his Cabinet are olds, who have barely mastered emails and texting. Bannon would have known better, but he’s gone.

And most of his younger aids are old people born too late.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 6:21:26am

re: #77 HappyWarrior

It really is hard to tell. I want to hope she’s sincere but I have nothing to trust her either. I’m more saddened than angry by their existence.

Whenever you feel sad for her, remember all the people…real people…who have been severely damaged by her and her cohorts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 6:21:35am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 6:21:36am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Yeah Bannon is a rare older guy who isn’t Tech Savvy. I’m definitely familiar with older men and women like that. It took my Dad quite awhile to master email. And unlike Barr, he doesn’t have a cadre of assistants to help him so he had to learn out of necessity.

I have three olds on my staff who have trouble opening email attachments, and one of them just asked me — again — for help in scanning a document onto his USB stick with the office copier. This same guy says he doesn’t trust Microsoft’s email, Gmail or Yahoo, so which email service does he use? yandex.ru.

smdh

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:21:49am

re: #156 Belafon

And most of his younger aids are old people born too late.

Miller is the poster child for who you’re talking about and I’m not just talking about how he looks. As I said, that is what genuinely worries me about the right of the future. The younger men and women who are rising in the ranks of the Republican party and right wing are not as a lot naively hoped more socially liberal/libertarian than their parents while remaining fiscally to the right. In fact, I would argue they’re more bigoted.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:23:13am

re: #157 MsJ

Whenever you feel sad for her, remember all the people…real people…who have been severely damaged by her and her cohorts.

I’m not sad for her. Read what I said closely. I’m saddened by the fact that people like this exist. People who received similiar educations to me and took all the wrong lessons from learning about Jim Crow, Slavery, the Holocaust, and history as a whole. I don’t trust her at all FWIW.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 6:23:16am
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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 6:23:50am

re: #74 ckkatz

Sigh…

One never knows whether a sudden change of heart of an attention seeking troll is sincere or just an updated grifting strategy.

Based upon the ones I knew back in the 1970’s, quite a few of the neo-Nazis have lots of problems (social, personal, mental and/or physical). And more than a few are borderline functional.

I guess that I have some sympathy for her at the generic level of all who share the human condition. And I hope that she is sincere in her change. I am grateful that the neo-Nazi noise machine is at least a bit quieter with her (reported) exit.

No, one can’t know for sure for a while. Just like one can’t know whether some people on the judiciary committee would have been as forceful with their Barr questions if they weren’t running for president. But both of them help our side, so I’m not going to bash either of them.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:24:28am

re: #159 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I have three olds on my staff who have trouble opening email attachments, and one of them just asked me — again — for help in scanning a document onto his USB stick with the office copier. This same guy says he doesn’t trust Microsoft’s email, Gmail or Yahoo, so which email service does he use? yandex.ru.

smdh

Funnily enough, I think the scanning to a flash drive was something that I had to help my boss with one time.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 6:25:37am

re: #151 Jay C

Yeppers
Fuck these people. Take their money

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:26:14am

re: #163 Belafon

No, one can’t know for sure for a while. Just like one can’t know whether some people on the judiciary committee would have been as forceful with their Barr questions if they weren’t running for president. But both of them help our side, so I’m not going to bash either of them.

She does help our side in one way. She’s talking about the culture over there at Breitbart and in the right wing political social circles and it’s confirming what a lot of us thought. A bunch of angry racists. Katie isn’t our ally but it’s a good thing that she’s not tweeting political stuff anymore either. Doesn’t mean I trust her but it’s much better than the alternative.

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Interesting Times  May 2, 2019 • 6:26:59am

Dumb question: can Cheeto Benito pardon toadies charged with contempt of Congress?

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 6:27:24am

re: #153 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The eyebrows seem … pasted on.

Yeah, that’s a thing. My wife keeps me up to speed on the latest eyebrow technology, like the ‘eyebrow stencils’ that were discussed here last month sometime.

She doesn’t actually use the latest eyebrow technology, she likes making fun of it.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:27:32am

re: #165 Dave In Austin

Yeppers
Fuck these people. Take their money

You can’t tell where the line between Trump’s defenses and the DOJ begins. I have seen nothing from Barr that shows he’s serving the country’s interests.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:29:45am

Anyhow executive power is going through the roof and the second any Democratic PResident uses any kinf of executive power, the GOP and their allies in and out of the media will use bad faith to claim OMG TOO MUCH PRESIDENTIAL POWER even though they’re the ones who are increasingly making the executive too powerful simply to protect Trump.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 6:30:17am

re: #168 makeitstop

Yeah, that’s a thing. My wife keeps me up to speed on the latest eyebrow technology, like the ‘eyebrow stencils’ that were discussed here last month sometime.

She doesn’t actually use the latest eyebrow technology, she likes making fun of it.

That’s just weird. Of course, here in China women of a certain age use an eyebrow pencil to give their eyebrows, I dunno, definition?

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 6:34:20am

re: #171 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

That’s just weird. Of course, here in China women of a certain age use an eyebrow pencil to give their eyebrows, I dunno, definition?

Eyebrow pencils are so 20th century. :)

The worst offenders among the sculpted eyebrow set are the ones that constantly look surprised. We’ve seen saleswomen at cosmetic counters who do that - the eyebrow arches are exaggerated beyond all proportion. It’s so weird.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 6:34:50am

re: #172 makeitstop

Eyebrow pencils are so 20th century. :)

The worst offenders among the sculpted eyebrow set are the ones that constantly look surprised. We’ve seen saleswomen at cosmetic counters who do that - the eyebrow arches are exaggerated beyond all proportion. It’s so weird.

Also - my lawn, get off it. I re-read that and I really sound old…

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 6:35:33am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

She does help our side in one way. She’s talking about the culture over there at Breitbart and in the right wing political social circles and it’s confirming what a lot of us thought. A bunch of angry racists. Katie isn’t our ally but it’s a good thing that she’s not tweeting political stuff anymore either. Doesn’t mean I trust her but it’s much better than the alternative.

I’m definitely not saying I’d ask her to watch my pets over the weekend yet, but she’s one less person I have to worry about right now, and maybe she can expose what’s going on.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 6:40:48am

re: #149 makeitstop

He ‘refuses to be extradited.’ How cute.

You don’t get a vote, asshole.

Actually he does. In a way
When allowed by the state with custodial jurisdiction, the subject will generally be queried if they will agree to a waiver of extradition.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 6:47:28am

re: #153 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The eyebrows seem … pasted on.

Too much foundation makeup that wasn’t blended properly. Weirdest pic of a person I have seen in a while.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:47:30am

re: #174 Belafon

I’m definitely not saying I’d ask her to watch my pets over the weekend yet, but she’s one less person I have to worry about right now, and maybe she can expose what’s going on.

I should also add that I’m not someone who was targeted by her. Yeah they would hate my ideological beliefs but they wouldn’t have an innate hatred just by looking at me. And that’s why it’s not for me to decide if she’s changed. I hope she has but I agree, one less angry bigot on Twitter.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 6:49:56am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Anyhow executive power is going through the roof and the second any Democratic PResident uses any kinf of executive power, the GOP and their allies in and out of the media will use bad faith to claim OMG TOO MUCH PRESIDENTIAL POWER even though they’re the ones who are increasingly making the executive too powerful simply to protect Trump.

Just like they tried to do in WI when a dem won the governorship.

They lost in the courts. But they’d likely win with this bunch of Supremes.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 6:50:32am

re: #178 MsJ

Just like they tried to do in WI when a dem won the governorship.

They lost in the courts. But they’d likely win with this bunch of Supremes.

Yes and that’s why every last scotus seat matters.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 6:54:09am

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 6:54:21am

re: #167 Interesting Times

Dumb question: can Cheeto Benito pardon toadies charged with contempt of Congress?

I’m not sure, but let’s say he can, and does. The Democrats just do it again. And if it becomes a cycle, then it’s OUR job to ask people what the president is hiding.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 6:54:28am

(Via TPM)

They must like nice round numbers: Kovington Katholic Kid Nick Sandmann & family have filed another big-buck lawsuit ($275m) against NBC Universal for “defamation”, etc. to go with the ones against the Washington Post ($250m) and CNN ($275m). I wonder how much of that $800m any of the Sandmann family are likely to actually see? Or, for that matter, their lawyers….?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 6:56:13am
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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:00:39am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 7:01:52am

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Incidentally, Harry is all of a week older than I am (June 14, 1949 for him; June 21 for me).

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:02:24am

Well, it is almost that time. A week in the southwest for my annual company conference and then straight off to France for three weeks.

I will be reading stuff here and there but not likely commenting (kinda like how I have been over the last couple of weeks now).

Just in case anyone asks if I’ve gone toes up.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:06:45am

re: #186 MsJ

Well, it is almost that time. A week in the southwest for my annual company conference and then straight off to France for three weeks.

I will be reading stuff here and there but not likely commenting (kinda like how I have been over the last couple of weeks now).

Just in case anyone asks if I’ve gone toes up.

Whereabouts in France?

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 7:07:10am

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“We need to work on your cussing, Cammie.”
“Why? I’m already pretty good at it.”
—Gen: Lock

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:07:25am

re: #185 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Incidentally, Harry is all of a week older than I am (June 14, 1949 for him; June 21 for me).

I haven’t read any of his works but I know he knows his history. McNaughton’s work in appearance reminds me of what I saw from the USSR but its meaning is more Nazi like. Garrison is the same way.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:10:33am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Whereabouts in France?

Paris, Lyon, Avignon (and hopefully a nice day trip to Toulouse, Nice and Monaco).

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 7:10:41am

re: #186 MsJ

Well, it is almost that time. A week in the southwest for my annual company conference and then straight off to France for three weeks.

I will be reading stuff here and there but not likely commenting (kinda like how I have been over the last couple of weeks now).

Just in case anyone asks if I’ve gone toes up.

Nice! Have a couple of great trips!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:12:14am

re: #190 MsJ

Paris, Lyon, Avignon (and hopefully a nice day trip to Toulouse, Nice and Monaco).

Awesome. It’s a spot I really haven’t been too. I had an afternoon in Strasbourg 11 years ago. Funnily enough Alsace is where my smidgeon of French ancestry comes from. Have fun. I’m going to New Orleans for about a week starting on the 21st.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:14:06am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Awesome. It’s a spot I really haven’t been too. I had an afternoon in Strasbourg 11 years ago. Funnily enough Alsace is where my smidgeon of French ancestry comes from. Have fun. I’m going to New Orleans for about a week starting on the 21st.

I’ve been to Paris before but the rest will be new to me. Hubs hasn’t been to France at all, so this will be whirlwind for him. He’s fluent in French, too…a bonus.

I always wanted to go to NO. Not during Mardi Gras but some time when it’s not nuts (if that is ever possible). Enjoy your trip. And give us a report. I would love to hear it!!

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William Lewis  May 2, 2019 • 7:15:13am

re: #184 MsJ

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Of course. Jack is a Nazi posing as a libertarian - it’s the only conclusion that makes sense.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:17:46am

re: #194 William Lewis

Of course. Jack is a Nazi posing as a libertarian - it’s the only conclusion that makes sense.

I have to agree. Perhaps not a Nazi but a white supremecist sympathizer, for sure.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:18:10am

re: #193 MsJ

I’ve been to Paris before but the rest will be new to me. Hubs hasn’t been to France at all, so this will be whirlwind for him. He’s fluent in French, too…a bonus.

I always wanted to go to NO. Not during Mardi Gras but some time when it’s not nuts (if that is ever possible). Enjoy your trip. And give us a report. I would love to hear it!!

Hopefully your husband will be less shy with his French than my brother was with his German when we were in Germany. But yeah I’ve always thought NO sounded fascinating. So much unique history, music, food, and I’ve really never explored the parts of the country that used to be French colonies that much.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:18:28am

re: #195 MsJ

I have to agree. Perhaps not a Nazi but a white supremecist sympathizer, for sure.

At best, he’s an enabler and that’s bad enough for me.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:19:28am

re: #194 William Lewis

Of course. Jack is a Nazi posing as a libertarian - it’s the only conclusion that makes sense.

If you read that article about Katie McHugh, you’ll see that she too started out as a libertarian. I found that interesting but I’m honestly not surprised. A lot of the stuff in the alt-right reminds me of the Ron Paul phenomenon 11 years ago.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 2, 2019 • 7:23:51am

re: #120 retired cynic

Couldn’t sleep so I’m uploading files while it is free on my satellite service. Good lord do I have a mess of files to clean up.

Something for Anymouse:

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 7:25:06am

re: #122 Targetpractice

Something to consider: How would yesterday have gone if the Mueller letter was never made public? Personal guess: Barr would have sat there far more confidently, constantly refraining that if Bob Mueller had wanted to charge Trump, he would have but he didn’t and instead left that up to his boss to decide.

if mueller had written the letter and barr had it, yesterday would have gone better for barr

mueller (probably quietly) would not have allowed that to stand

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 7:27:02am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

From what I understand, Trump really doesn’t understand Twitter beyond tweeting.

Trump’s Tweets May Be Hurting Him

A new Politico/Morning Consult poll shows that 60% of voters say Trump’s use of Twitter is a bad thing, vs. only 19% who say it is a good thing. Even worse, 46% think it will hurt his reelection chances, which is more than double the number who see it as an asset. In addition, 48% think his tweets hurt America’s standing in the world, vs. 13% who say they help. Even Republicans are starting to say “whoa!,” with 51% of them saying he tweets too much.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 2, 2019 • 7:27:59am

Now I’m craving KFC…

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:28:28am

re: #201 DangerMan

Trump’s Tweets May Be Hurting Him

It makes him look what he is, an angry old man.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 7:30:00am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

If you read that article about Katie McHugh, you’ll see that she too started out as a libertarian. I found that interesting but I’m honestly not surprised. A lot of the stuff in the alt-right reminds me of the Ron Paul phenomenon 11 years ago.

Antisemitism is the glue that bonds them.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:32:05am

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Antisemitism is the glue that bonds them.

Yes. They think they’re not Antisemitic since they believe in the pseudoscience bs about Jews being more intelligent than other people. Same thing with East Asians. And of course lip service about Israel. Troubling thing though is Nethanayu seems cool with that because it helps him.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:32:24am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

If you read that article about Katie McHugh, you’ll see that she too started out as a libertarian. I found that interesting but I’m honestly not surprised. A lot of the stuff in the alt-right reminds me of the Ron Paul phenomenon 11 years ago.

It’s quite the transition from “I can do anything as long as I don’t hurt anyone else” Libertarian thinking to “do as I say or die” conservative “thought”.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:33:33am

I would argue that it’s a general xenophobia that makes these groups work. The whole engine that has driven modern right wing politics is the fear of change and fear of the newcomer, whether that was in the 1960’s a black family moving in or today with immigrants from a place Trump calls a shithole or someone gay or transgendered.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 2, 2019 • 7:34:19am

Berkekey Peregrine chicks are being fed on livecam right now (7:33 PDT).

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:34:33am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

It makes him look what he is, an angry old man.

Because he is an angry, old man.

I don’t know if I believe that the 40% will vote GOP no matter what. Not this next cycle. His core base is maybe 20%. Add on 10% of dumbasses who don’t follow news or social media.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:35:12am

re: #206 MsJ

It’s quite the transition from “I can do anything as long as I don’t hurt anyone else” Libertarian thinking to “do as I say or die” conservative “thought”.

It is but I would argue that Ron Paul was always closer to being a do as I say than I can do anything as long as I don’t hurt people type. And to me the proof in the pudding is his attitude towards choice, homosexuality, and his indifference to white supremacist politics. He just didn’t like the federal government having that power..

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:36:08am

re: #209 MsJ

Because he is an angry, old man.

I don’t know if I believe that the 40% will vote GOP no matter what. Not this next cycle. His core base is maybe 20%. Add on 10% of dumbasses who don’t follow news or social media.

Right. That’s exactly what he is. I’d say his ceiling is limited but his floor is way too close to comfort. That’s another reason why I think Sanders resembles him. Low ceiling, high floor.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 7:40:53am

re: #209 MsJ

Because he is an angry, old man.

I don’t know if I believe that the 40% will vote GOP no matter what. Not this next cycle. His core base is maybe 20%. Add on 10% of dumbasses who don’t follow news or social media.

It’s that dumbasses who don’t follow news or social media that is the unknown. I feel that it’s higher, given the otherwise intelligent people I work with.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:42:05am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

It is but I would argue that Ron Paul was always closer to being a do as I say than I can do anything as long as I don’t hurt people type. And to me the proof in the pudding is his attitude towards choice, homosexuality, and his indifference to white supremacist politics. He just didn’t like the federal government having that power..

Ron Paul was always a pseudo-Libertarian (as are most of the people who are labeled Libertarian). Ron Paul is a flat out racist and generally hateful prick of a man.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 7:43:08am

re: #206 MsJ

It’s quite the transition from “I can do anything as long as I don’t hurt anyone else” Libertarian thinking to “do as I say or die” conservative “thought”.

They don’t really oppose authority and control, they just want to substitute their own for what exists now.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:43:13am

re: #213 MsJ

Ron Paul was always a pseudo-Libertarian (as are most of the people who are labeled Libertarian). Ron Paul is a flat out racist and generally hateful prick of a man.

Him and Bernie and Trump. Three old men that all seem to have really resonated with a good chunk of my peers. And yes Ron Paul is a hateful prick.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:43:51am

re: #214 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

They don’t really oppose authority and control, they just want to substitute their own for what exists now.

I have sort of seen this with a libertarian casual friend of mine. He ain’t gonna listen to me though.

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William Lewis  May 2, 2019 • 7:44:36am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Right. That’s exactly what he is. I’d say his ceiling is limited but his floor is way too close to comfort. That’s another reason why I think Sanders resembles him. Low ceiling, high floor.

27%? < whistles innocently >

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2019 • 7:44:43am

re: #206 MsJ

It’s quite the transition from “I can do anything as long as I don’t hurt anyone else” Libertarian thinking to “do as I say or die” conservative “thought”.

You should have put conservative in quotes, too. Because conservatism is about slow-paced and thoughtful change, not about bigotry and whatever-the-fuck-else the alt-right “thinks”.

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Old Liberal  May 2, 2019 • 7:45:29am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

He refused to do Trump’s investigation of HRC too. Tells me that even a bigoted asshole like him has limits.

I could be wrong but I think Franken caught him in perjury and Sessions watched his Ps and Qs after that

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:45:45am

To me, the problem is absolutism in ideology. Don’t matter if that’s socialism, capitalism, or whatever. My general philosophy is I prefer a stronger federal government because I don’t see our states as vacuums.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 7:45:59am

re: #193 MsJ

I always wanted to go to NO. Not during Mardi Gras but some time when it’s not nuts (if that is ever possible). Enjoy your trip. And give us a report. I would love to hear it!!

We went for a few years running in the late 90s/early aughts. We used to go around Halloween - the crowds were big enough to get the party vibe, but not a total crush like Mardi Gras (did that once, never again).

Also, they have Jazzfest/Voodoofest around that time. It’s a good time to visit.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:46:06am

re: #217 William Lewis

27%? < whistles innocently >

Ha yep.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:46:29am

re: #221 makeitstop

We went for a few years running in the late 90s/early aughts. We used to go around Halloween - the crowds were big enough to get the party vibe, but not a total crush like Mardi Gras (did that once, never again).

Also, they have Jazzfest/Voodoofest around that time. It’s a good time to visit.

I hear October is the best time to go.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:48:07am

re: #219 Old Liberal

I could be wrong but I think Franken caught him in perjury and Sessions watched his Ps and Qs after that

Good memory. Feels like a long time ago that Franken was a Senator and Sessions was AG.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 7:49:01am

I don’t see the Dictator’s tweets anymore. I didn’t block but I unfollowed.

It’s better and I recommend it. My stress level went way down.

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William Lewis  May 2, 2019 • 7:49:06am

re: #223 HappyWarrior

I hear October is the best time to go.

Nah, July/August. Nothing like high temps, high humidity & hurricane season…

Why yes, the conference I was sent to was held then because hotels were cheap then.

on a serious level, there was an aquarium that was my favorite tourist stop.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:49:52am

re: #226 William Lewis

Nah, July/August. Nothing like high temps, high humidity & hurricane season…

Why yes, the conference I was sent to was held then because hotels were cheap then.

on a serious level, there was an aquarium that was my favorite tourist stop.

Ah you like the high temps and humidity. I don’t mind those as long as I can take a dip or be by water which I surely would be in NOLA.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 7:51:57am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Hopefully your husband will be less shy with his French than my brother was with his German when we were in Germany. But yeah I’ve always thought NO sounded fascinating. So much unique history, music, food, and I’ve really never explored the parts of the country that used to be French colonies that much.

While you’re there, go over to Algiers and check out Mardi Gras World. It’s a huge warehouse where they build the Mardi Gras floats, and they’ve got tons of stuff from past parades. Take a camera! They kind of pile the old stuff in randomly, and it makes for some interesting pics.

This was out Christmas card in 1999…

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:52:40am

re: #212 Belafon

It’s that dumbasses who don’t follow news or social media that is the unknown. I feel that it’s higher, given the otherwise intelligent people I work with.

That depresses me to no end. I mean a checking-out-of-society level of depression.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:52:49am

re: #228 makeitstop

While you’re there, go over to Algiers and check out Mardi Gras World. It’s a huge warehouse where they build the Mardi Gras floats, and they’ve got tons of stuff from past parades. Take a camera! They kind of pile the old stuff in randomly, and it makes for some interesting pics.

This was out Christmas card in 1999…

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I always take a camera when I travel and Mardi Gras World is on my list.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 7:53:01am

thehill.com

The leases, involving the governments of Iraq, Kuwait, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, Thailand and the European Union, were approved by the State Department, according to Reuters.

While the 90-story skyscraper has rented to diplomats and foreign officials for years, some legal experts said failing to obtain congressional approval now that Trump is president raises issues under the Constitution’s emoluments clause, which bans U.S. officials from accepting unapproved gifts or payments from foreign governments.

“Letting this go without Congress knowing about it condones the creation of a second, opaque track of foreign policy,” Harold Hongju Koh, a professor at Yale Law School and former legal adviser at the State Department, told Reuters. “What it might lead to is a group of countries enriching the people in power on the mistaken belief that it’s going to improve their access.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2019 • 7:53:53am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Ah you like the high temps and humidity. I don’t mind those as long as I can take a dip or be by water which I surely would be in NOLA.

Dude, you live in the DMV. If you can’t handle the heat and humidity…

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:54:14am

re: #218 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You should have put conservative in quotes, too. Because conservatism is about slow-paced and thoughtful change, not about bigotry and whatever-the-fuck-else the alt-right “thinks”.

No, conservatism WAS about what you said…decades ago.

Conservatism is what it is now - and has been for all of this century and part of the last.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 7:54:52am

re: #223 HappyWarrior

I hear October is the best time to go.

Yeah, the weather around then is the best. A little hot, but not stifling to the point where you break into a sweat getting out of a chair. :)

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:55:02am

re: #232 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Dude, you live in the DMV. If you can’t handle the heat and humidity…

I can handle it. Liking it is another story. I need to be able to cool off. I’m like a hippo in that way.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 7:55:25am

re: #225 Dave In Austin

I don’t see the Dictator’s tweets anymore. I didn’t block but I unfollowed.

It’s better and I recommend it. My stress level went way down.

If someone must see what trump has to say, @potusonthepot is the way to go. :-D

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 7:55:29am

And the fucknut who I blocked posted that Dems have no power, which is precisely the point. The GOP wants one-party rule and is cheering on the slouching towards fascism with a goddamned white supremacist leading the party.

That’s the outcome they want. The base is beyond reason or logic at this point. They are intent on pursuing revanchism and regressive politics - to roll back decades of progress.

Who benefits: rich white guys primarily.
Who is harmed: everyone else, but the angry white guys on the right think that they are helped by harming everyone else, especially women and minorities (religious, ethnic, cultural, and racial).

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:55:42am

re: #234 makeitstop

Yeah, the weather around then is the best. A little hot, but not stifling to the point where you break into a sweat getting out of a chair. :)

Yeah I didn’t want to go when it was too hot.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 7:56:40am

re: #226 William Lewis

Nah, July/August. Nothing like high temps, high humidity & hurricane season…

Why yes, the conference I was sent to was held then because hotels were cheap then.

on a serious level, there was an aquarium that was my favorite tourist stop.

That aquarium is awesome! Audubon Zoo is also pretty excellent. A worker there told me it’s one of the top 3 in the country, along with Bronx and San Diego. I’ve been lucky enough to get to all three.

(You guys have got me geeking on NOLA now.)

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 7:58:13am

re: #239 makeitstop

That aquarium is awesome! Audubon Zoo is also pretty excellent. A worker there told me it’s one of the top 3 in the country, along with Bronx and San Diego. I’ve been lucky enough to get to all three.

(You guys have got me geeking on NOLA now.)

Zoo isn’t on my list but if I had my niece with me, it would be. I’m definitely doing a lot of cultural pursuits. Definitely going to the WWII Museum.

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 7:59:21am

re: #237 lawhawk

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And the fucknut who I blocked posted that Dems have no power, which is precisely the point. The GOP wants one-party rule and is cheering on the slouching towards fascism with a goddamned white supremacist leading the party.

That’s the outcome they want. The base is beyond reason or logic at this point. They are intent on pursuing revanchism and regressive politics - to roll back decades of progress.

Who benefits: rich white guys primarily.
Who is harmed: everyone else, but the angry white guys on the right think that they are helped by harming everyone else, especially women and minorities (religious, ethnic, cultural, and racial).

I really wish the leadership would get over their gun-shyness and pull the trigger on impeachment. We now have a Treasury Secretary who is willfully violating the law, an Attorney General that should be held in criminal contempt, at least two departments of the executive branch who have said they will not comply with lawful subpoenas, and a president* who has been found to have committed one or more felonies while in office. Get over this idea that failure to removal will somehow make him untouchable and do your fucking jobs!

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 8:01:47am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Zoo isn’t on my list but if I had my niece with me, it would be. I’m definitely doing a lot of cultural pursuits. Definitely going to the WWII Museum.

Yes, we did the D-Day Museum, it’s pretty cool. Lots of old vehicles and aircraft, and some pretty good multimedia. The Confederate Museum is nearby, but we passed on that at least twice.

You should consider the zoo. Where else are you gonna get to see white alligators? :)

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:03:31am

re: #242 makeitstop

Yes, we did the D-Day Museum, it’s pretty cool. Lots of old vehicles and aircraft, and some pretty good multimedia. The Confederate Museum is nearby, but we passed on that at least twice.

You should consider the zoo. Where else are you gonna get to see white alligators? :)

Ah true point about the Alligators. I have a few walking tours lined up.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 8:05:13am

re: #233 MsJ

No, conservatism WAS about what you said…decades ago.

Conservatism is what it is now - and has been for all of this century and part of the last.

It’s the difference between conservative (small c, adjective) and Conservative (capital C, noun).

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gwangung  May 2, 2019 • 8:06:14am

re: #241 Targetpractice

I really wish the leadership would get over their gun-shyness and pull the trigger on impeachment. We now have a Treasury Secretary who is willfully violating the law, an Attorney General that should be held in criminal contempt, at least two departments of the executive branch who have said they will not comply with lawful subpoenas, and a president* who has been found to have committed one or more felonies while in office. Get over this idea that failure to removal will somehow make him untouchable and do your fucking jobs!

When polling shows that the public is 66-29 AGAINST impeachment, you have to wonder what’s the best strategy.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:06:17am

re: #244 sagehen

It’s the difference between conservative (small c, adjective) and Conservative (capital C, noun).

There to me has always been a distinct difference between conservatism in theory and practice.

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Interesting Times  May 2, 2019 • 8:09:28am

re: #245 gwangung

When polling shows that the public is 66-29 AGAINST impeachment, you have to wonder what’s the best strategy.

Well…

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 8:11:49am

This thread is something else. As it turns out, many people in California have been targeted for this scam.

Read the whole thread and if you have elders in CA, let them know.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 8:11:59am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:14:47am

The way I look at impeachment is it needs to be done so we can set it in stone what Trump did was wrong and that if any other President were to try it, he/she should be impeached as such. Trump has repeatedly obstructed justice. It hasn’t ended. He still is. Impeach him or else IMO you’ll have out of control executives in the future.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 8:15:16am

re: #244 sagehen

It’s the difference between conservative (small c, adjective) and Conservative (capital C, noun).

Nah. It’s all the same.

And I will go with Capital FUCK EM (verb). :-D

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gwangung  May 2, 2019 • 8:16:22am

re: #247 Interesting Times

Well…

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I think with a more polarized electorate, you’ll need to get more support. The mere mention of the I-word gets people settled into camps.

Didn’t say you shouldn’t investigate and push hard; I just think you need to have pressure from a majority of the electorate before pulling the trigger.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 8:16:50am

re: #248 MsJ

This thread is something else. As it turns out, many people in California have been targeted for this scam.

Read the whole thread and if you have elders in CA, let them know.

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Not really sure I’d call this a “scam”… It says right at the top “commissioned by the Republican Party.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 8:17:33am

re: #253 KGxvi

Not really sure I’d call this a “scam”… It says right at the top “commissioned by the Republican Party.”

Not a scam in the legally prosecutable sense, but clearly misleading

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 8:18:59am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

The way I look at impeachment is it needs to be done so we can set it in stone what Trump did was wrong and that if any other President were to try it, he/she should be impeached as such. Trump has repeatedly obstructed justice. It hasn’t ended. He still is. Impeach him or else IMO you’ll have out of control executives in the future.

And the ones of the future will not be as hapless as these morons. Someone who is smart would be terrifyingly effective and we likely wouldn’t know for some time what was taking place.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:19:02am

re: #253 KGxvi

Not really sure I’d call this a “scam”… It says right at the top “commissioned by the Republican Party.”

It’s a gray matter. I don’t think you could legally consider that a scam but I think they are definitely thinking voters will see the big bolded letters and ignore the fine print. It’s definitely not quite what the Wohlful Pathetic Wonder did with Mayor Pete but it’s stinky.

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 8:19:45am

re: #253 KGxvi

Not really sure I’d call this a “scam”… It says right at the top “commissioned by the Republican Party.”

Did you read about what happened when he called them?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:19:56am

re: #255 MsJ

And the ones of the future will not be as hapless as these morons. Someone who is smart would be terrifyingly effective and we likely wouldn’t know for some time what was taking place.

Yep. As bad as Trump is, it could be a lot worse due to his own stupidity and stubbornness. That’s why I talk about defeating Trump and Trumpism. You need to defeat both.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:20:41am

re: #257 MsJ

Did you read about what happened when he called them?

Missed that. That part is definitely criminal IMO.

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 8:20:49am

re: #252 gwangung

I think with a more polarized electorate, you’ll need to get more support. The mere mention of the I-word gets people settled into camps.

Didn’t say you shouldn’t investigate and push hard; I just think you need to have pressure from a majority of the electorate before pulling the trigger.

But you’re not going to have the pressure so long as it looks to the public as though the problem will “sort itself out” next November. A good portion of the nation is content to just wait it out, figuring either Trump will lose next year and go quietly or he’ll win and thus prove that a majority of Americans are cool with his actions.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 8:20:57am

re: #257 MsJ

Did you read about what happened when he called them?

Yeah, I did. It’s a cheap fundraising tactic. My folks used to get RNC sponsored “surveys” where they’d ask for opinions and cash. They’ve been doing this shit for decades.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 8:21:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 8:24:06am

So if Barr is found in contempt a judge gets to decide whether to fine or jail him?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 8:24:41am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I nominate “Russian Whale” as a new nickname for Trump.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 8:24:55am

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

So if Barr is found in contempt a judge gets to decide whether to fine or jail him?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:26:52am

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

I nominate “Russian Whale” as a new nickname for Trump.

I remember when Lidane called Chris Christie, the Outlaw Jersey Whale. That was a good one.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 8:26:54am
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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 8:27:19am

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

So if Barr is found in contempt a judge gets to decide whether to fine or jail him?

Per wikipedia, here are the options for dealing with Contempt of Congress. The way the Trump Administration has operated, the House may need to use it’s inherent powers… something that was last invoked by the Senate in 1934.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:28:17am

Barr definitely needs to face a little bit of pressure. He shouldn’t be allowed to get away with this shit.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 8:28:42am

Lubbock bullshittarian (“Mr. Conservative”) called out on absurd claim, doubles down.

Facebook Post

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:28:54am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Well that’s the cutest spy story I’ve heard in awhile. The Beluga better be careful.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:29:39am

re: #270 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Lubbock bullshittarian (“Mr. Conservative”) called out on absurd claim, doubles down.

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Donald, you’re a fucking idiot. Please stop acting like you give a shit about the environment.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 8:30:13am

re: #270 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I guess he missed the part where plastic became popular because it cut shipping costs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 8:31:00am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The beluga defects! “An alleged Russian spy whale is refusing to leave a Norwegian port city, in what appears to be a high-profile defection after a week of global attention on the unnamed beluga”

He is not seeking asylum at the Ecuadorian embassy?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 8:32:08am

re: #268 KGxvi

Per wikipedia, here are the options for dealing with Contempt of Congress. The way the Trump Administration has operated, the House may need to use it’s inherent powers… something that was last invoked by the Senate in 1934.

Interesting. So it may NOT be a traditional Judge that has the final say on sentencing. I was worried about him getting a friendly judge who would just give him a “slap on the wrist” fine.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:32:20am

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is not seeking asylum at the Ecuadorian embassy?

Would you trust Julian Assenge with anything that has a blowhole?

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 8:32:41am

re: #273 jaunte

I guess he missed the part where plastic became popular because it cut shipping costs.

Most restaurants in California, at least around me, have gone back to paper/cardboard to go boxes instead of styrofoam. And I’d much prefer if a lot of the stuff I get in plastic containers came in glass ones instead.

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 8:32:56am

I think part of the problem is that public ignorance of what impeachment actually entails has led people to think that the House just shows up one day, votes on Articles, and then tosses it to the Senate where the actual laying out of evidence occurs.

No, my child, no. There are hearings in the House that are conducted, sometimes taking weeks or months. They act in many ways like a public grand jury, from the presentation of evidence to the questioning of witnesses. You go through the Articles on the table and you make the case for/against every single one before you hold the vote on whether to impeach.

It was the prolonged and damaging nature of those impeachment hearings, as well as the media’s own digging into the matter, that ultimately doomed Nixon and forced his resignation before the Articles even came to a vote.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 8:32:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 8:33:06am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

Would you trust Julian Assenge with anything that has a blowhole?

He has already blown the joint!

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 8:34:30am

Surprisingly, I’ve never seen this done in real life. And I’ve spent some time around horses and livestock in my time.

Interesting process. especially the “Fitting”.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 8:34:34am
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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2019 • 8:34:48am

re: #261 KGxvi

Yeah, I did. It’s a cheap fundraising tactic. My folks used to get RNC sponsored “surveys” where they’d ask for opinions and cash. They’ve been doing this shit for decades.

Saying that the person is required by law to comply (which was my recollection of what happened here) is fraud. End of.

The entire exercise is fraudulent regardless of the small print disclaimers. To give an analogy, the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act makes it illegal for a debt collection agency to have any name that implies the agency is part of the federal gov’t—doesn’t matter what kind of disclosures you might have. This is very similar.

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BlueGrl21  May 2, 2019 • 8:35:15am

I had been on the fence about impeachment, but I flipped today. Do it. The obstruction of justice cannot stand. Barr is openly defying Congress with the backing of Trump. Impeach the orange motherfucker and take his palace eunuchs down with him.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:35:26am

re: #279 jaunte

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We heard what you, Ryan, and Scalise had to say about Trump when the cameras weren’t rolling. We already know what Lindsay Graham thought of him too but please complain about the FBI thinking about Trump exactly what you thought but you were too chickenshit to say since you were afraid of alienating your base that worships the orange shitbrain.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 8:37:17am

re: #241 Targetpractice

I really wish the leadership would get over their gun-shyness and pull the trigger on impeachment. We now have a Treasury Secretary who is willfully violating the law, an Attorney General that should be held in criminal contempt, at least two departments of the executive branch who have said they will not comply with lawful subpoenas, and a president* who has been found to have committed one or more felonies while in office. Get over this idea that failure to removal will somehow make him untouchable and do your fucking jobs!

you do your job regardless of what the other people do

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:37:24am

re: #284 BlueGrl21

I had been on the fence about impeachment, but I flipped today. Do it. The obstruction of justice cannot stand. Barr is openly defying Congress with the backing of Trump. Impeach the orange motherfucker and take his palace eunuchs down with him.

I get that Pelosi and the leadership feel that impeachment should be rare but this is a time it is merited. It’s not just about Trump. It’s about future Presidents who will impede investigations that they don’t like. As Dangerman has said, you do not have a right not to be accused or investigated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 8:37:49am
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Interesting Times  May 2, 2019 • 8:38:00am

re: #284 BlueGrl21

I had been on the fence about impeachment, but I flipped today. Do it. The obstruction of justice cannot stand. Barr is openly defying Congress with the backing of Trump. Impeach the orange motherfucker and take his palace eunuchs down with him.

Rick Wilson had initially praised Pelosi’s “he’s just not worth it” stance, but now he says this:

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:39:47am

re: #289 Interesting Times

Rick Wilson had initially praised Pelosi’s “he’s just not worth it” stance, but now he says this:

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If Rick’s mind is changing, I wonder about Pelosi, Hoyer, and the rest of the leadership. I get their caution but you need to do the right thing. Barr and Trump has decided that it’s okay for a President to obstruct an investigation if he feels the investigation is without merit. That’s dangerous not just for now but the future.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 8:40:15am

re: #245 gwangung

When polling shows that the public is 66-29 AGAINST impeachment, you have to wonder what’s the best strategy.

you start by laying it it out, day by day, hearing by hearing, press release by press release, every single day so it never leaves the news.

you lay it out in unqualified, irrefutable, nauseating detail

- for now you ignore when/whether the house votes
- for now you ignore what the senate would do

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2019 • 8:40:20am

re: #281 Dave In Austin

Surprisingly, I’ve never seen this done in real life. And I’ve spent some time around horses and livestock in my time.

Interesting process. especially the “Fitting”.

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That’s one hell of a manicure.

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gwangung  May 2, 2019 • 8:40:24am

re: #289 Interesting Times

Rick Wilson had initially praised Pelosi’s “he’s just not worth it” stance, but now he says this:

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Well, yes. That’s how you build support for impeaching Trump. Drag his minions into court on the unassailable evidence. Start picking off his allies and watch him flail….that’s how you build support for impeachment.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 8:42:33am

re: #267 jaunte

You know, if you want this done, a bunch of protests might be useful

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 8:43:43am

I read a lot of people saying Democrats need to do more, but it would seriously help if people gave them cover. Start protesting Barr’s continued employment.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 8:44:21am

re: #277 KGxvi

Most restaurants in California, at least around me, have gone back to paper/cardboard to go boxes instead of styrofoam. And I’d much prefer if a lot of the stuff I get in plastic containers came in glass ones instead.

One of the biggest sources of plastic waste is those damned water bottles.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  May 2, 2019 • 8:44:34am

re: #278 Targetpractice

I think part of the problem is that public ignorance of what impeachment actually entails has led people to think that the House just shows up one day, votes on Articles, and then tosses it to the Senate where the actual laying out of evidence occurs.

No, my child, no. There are hearings in the House that are conducted, sometimes taking weeks or months. They act in many ways like a public grand jury, from the presentation of evidence to the questioning of witnesses. You go through the Articles on the table and you make the case for/against every single one before you hold the vote on whether to impeach.

It was the prolonged and damaging nature of those impeachment hearings, as well as the media’s own digging into the matter, that ultimately doomed Nixon and forced his resignation before the Articles even came to a vote.

This, This, and This.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 8:44:35am

re: #260 Targetpractice

But you’re not going to have the pressure so long as it looks to the public as though the problem will “sort itself out” next November. A good portion of the nation is content to just wait it out, figuring either Trump will lose next year and go quietly or he’ll win and thus prove that a majority of Americans are cool with his actions.

there is a shit-ton of information we plugged in daily self abusers dont know yet
(start with the un-redacted report and the ‘evidence’ supporting it)

there is a mega shit-ton of information the average individual doesn’t know yet

spoon feed them bite sized pieces every single day

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:44:52am

As far as I have seen from Barr, his whole defense of Trump’s actions is “Well the President thought the investigation wasn’t justified and hurt his ability to govern.” So the fuck what. You don’t get to obstruct justice because you don’t like something. If I were accused of murder and even if I was innocent and I hired someone to beat up a prosecution witness, that would still be a crime. It’s amazing seeing Barr, someone who should know fucking better wrap himself up in this defense. I mean I know it’s sheer partisanship but come the fuck on.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:45:23am

re: #295 Belafon

I read a lot of people saying Democrats need to do more, but it would seriously help if people gave them cover. Start protesting Barr’s continued employment.

The Congressional Republicans could start by acknowledging that they’re an independent branch of government from the WH.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 8:45:25am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

One of the biggest sources of plastic waste is those damned water bottles.

Germany has had a mandatory deposit on all water, beer and soft-drink bottles since 2002.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 8:46:40am
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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 8:46:43am

re: #292 Mike Lamb

That’s one hell of a manicure.

I wonder through the course of a career as a Farrier. How many times they get kicked and bit.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 8:46:46am

re: #273 jaunte

I guess he missed the part where plastic became popular because it cut shipping costs.

and it’s made from……..

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 8:47:25am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany has had a mandatory deposit on all water, beer and soft-drink bottles since 2002.

Why do you hate Freedom?
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:47:56am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The same people who love Trump calling his opponents childish names will be decrying Rep Cohen’s “uncooth behavior” in 3…2..1.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 8:48:36am

re: #278 Targetpractice

I think part of the problem is that public ignorance of what impeachment actually entails has led people to think that the House just shows up one day, votes on Articles, and then tosses it to the Senate where the actual laying out of evidence occurs.

No, my child, no. There are hearings in the House that are conducted, sometimes taking weeks or months. They act in many ways like a public grand jury, from the presentation of evidence to the questioning of witnesses. You go through the Articles on the table and you make the case for/against every single one before you hold the vote on whether to impeach.

It was the prolonged and damaging nature of those impeachment hearings, as well as the media’s own digging into the matter, that ultimately doomed Nixon and forced his resignation before the Articles even came to a vote.

Spot on, Chris.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 8:49:23am

re: #305 Dave In Austin

Why do you hate Freedom?
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It led to a lot of problems because the Conservatives did all they could to block and obfusticate issues, but the German economy has somehow survived.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:49:37am

I want impeachment hearings because I think the American people need to see how this administration has deceived them from day one.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 8:49:38am

Lovely interview with Marion Turner on On Point (NPR) about her book Chaucer, A European Life.

wbur.org

I think I want to read it!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:50:06am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It led to a lot of problems because the Conservatives did all they could to block and obfusticate issues, but the German economy has somehow survived.

It’s thrived from what I understand. I’d rather be in Merkel’s Germany than Putin’s Russia.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 8:50:21am

re: #279 jaunte

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So Kevin McCarthy is still trying to flog that lame tired BS about Peter Strzok and Lisa Page’s emails being proof of a “coup” ( I think Sen Kennedy brought this shit up at Barr’s hearing yesterday, too)?

Do these bozos not get that no one outside the hardcore cult believes, knows, or gives a good goddam?

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 8:50:26am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany has had a mandatory deposit on all water, beer and soft-drink bottles since 2002.

We’ve got the CRV here, which is either a nickle or a dime, depending on the size of the container. But I don’t know how much of an effect it has on most people (hell, I know I rarely collect it)

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 8:50:33am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

I want impeachment hearings because I think the American people need to see how this administration has deceived them from day one.

THIS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 8:51:11am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 8:51:25am

re: #312 Jay C

So Kevin McCarthy is still trying to flog that lame tired BS about Peter Strzok and Lisa Page’s emails being proof of a “coup” ( I think Sen Kennedy brought this shit up at Barr’s hearing yesterday, too)?

Do these bozos not get that no one outside the hardcore cult believes, knows, or gives a good goddam?

No.

They do not.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 8:52:06am

This all day.
Can I get an “AMEN” Sisters and Brothers??

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:52:07am

re: #316 Eclectic Cyborg

No.

They do not.

Nope because despite what they say about us, they are the ones who love their safe spaces. .

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goddamnedfrank  May 2, 2019 • 8:52:08am

re: #303 Dave In Austin

I wonder through the course of a career as a Farrier. How many times they get kicked and bit.

Mostly they just get shit on.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 8:52:10am

If the video doesn’t start there you should probably scroll over to around 30:20, that will get you around T-minus 1 minute

Replay of NS-11 Webcast

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 8:52:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 8:53:33am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

It’s thrived from what I understand. I’d rather be in Merkel’s Germany than Putin’s Russia.

That pretty much sums up my existence, I was there pre-Putin and started to kick myself for going back to (pre-Merkel) Germany in 1993 but I no longer regret it.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2019 • 8:53:50am

re: #281 Dave In Austin

Surprisingly, I’ve never seen this done in real life. And I’ve spent some time around horses and livestock in my time.

Interesting process. especially the “Fitting”.

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I used to do bookkeeping work for a farrier in Rancho Santa Fe. He made bank.

I see why. That was amazing.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 8:53:54am

re: #289 Interesting Times

Rick Wilson had initially praised Pelosi’s “he’s just not worth it” stance, but now he says this:

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I fully agree. The House has a choice of who to throw in the slammer - Barr over his snub of the subpoena or Mnuchin over refusing to turn over Trump’s tax returns.

One of them should be hit with the full weight of Congressional power. Like the proverbial story of the mule and the 2x4 - you gotta get their attention first.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:54:42am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That pretty much sums up my existence, I was there Pre-Putin and started to kick myself for leaving in 1993 but I no longer regret it.

Russia is a fascinating place but man I would never want to live there let alone under Putin. Merkel’s Germany is a model IMO.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 8:56:15am

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

Mostly they just get shit on.

Oh Shit! Literally…. I didnt think about that.

That’s the ultimate “Fuck You my feet hurt”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 8:56:17am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Russia is a fascinating place but man I would never want to live there let alone under Putin. Merkel’s Germany is a model IMO.

Russia was crayzee Wild West in 1992-3, but for that I rented a furnished two-room apartment in a nice part of Moscow for $100 per month…

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2019 • 8:57:53am

re: #303 Dave In Austin

I wonder through the course of a career as a Farrier. How many times they get kicked and bit.

I’d guess a lot. There doesn’t appear to be much in the way of nerve endings in the hoof, but I suspect the farrier finds out real quick if he took too much off…

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Teukka  May 2, 2019 • 8:58:31am

Oof. Barr got a burn from none other than Eric Idle :D

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 8:58:32am

re: #317 Dave In Austin

This all day.
Can I get an “AMEN” Sisters and Brothers??

Which is why a number of Democrats are wary of saying impeachment just yet.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:58:43am

re: #327 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russia was crayzee Wild West in 1992-3, but for that I rented a furnished two-room apartment in a nice part of Moscow for $100 per month…

Damn that’s cheap.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 8:59:00am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

Damn that’s cheap.

Those days are long gone…

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 8:59:15am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those days are long gone…

I know.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 8:59:35am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s making me laugh. He’s needs to add chickentrump to get Trump to react.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 9:00:40am

Democrats have to show a spine.

That goes for Pelosi finally unleashing impeachment, because it’s clear that Trump and the GOP ignore the rule of law and don’t take Congress seriously in engaging in oversight. They want their malfeasance to go unanswered and unchallenged.

Meanwhile, over in the Senate, we’ve got more Democrats seemingly interested in running for president than looking to retake the Senate from the craven GOPers.

Bennet is the latest to announce a run, even though he’s got zero name recognition and is another guy without a record or credibility to run. At the same time, Democrats can’t seem to get credible candidates to run against vulnerable GOPers in states where Democrats need to take back or hold the line. That means if the Senate remains in GOP hands, that McConnell will get to obstruct and thwart any Democrat who wins the WH.

That’s the problem and the ballgame that Schumer has to solve for and it doesn’t look like he’s up to the task.

Pelosi may have a strategy to keep the House, and even to go ahead with impeachment, but both Pelosi and Schumer continue to act as though the GOP are playing by the rules when it is abundantly clear that Trump and the GOP don’t care about the rules when it applies to the GOP, but are intent on using the rules to thwart Democrats at every turn.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 9:01:18am
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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 9:01:34am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Awesome. It’s a spot I really haven’t been too. I had an afternoon in Strasbourg 11 years ago. Funnily enough Alsace is where my smidgeon of French ancestry comes from. Have fun. I’m going to New Orleans for about a week starting on the 21st.

Alsace is where my “tail male” line comes from as well… About nine generations back, but still: hello, cousin!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:04:29am

re: #337 retired cynic

Alsace is where my “tail male” line comes from as well… About nine generations back, but still: hello, cousin!

My oldest direct line in the US btw! Arrived in Pennsylvania during Washington’s administration. One of the daughters married an Irish emigrant who was my great grandfather’s grandfather. Had always thought that line was 100% Irish but nope.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 9:04:55am

re: #199 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

You are right, of course. I should have phrased that better. And should have known better.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:05:09am

re: #336 sagehen

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I’d rather not know who Ben Sasse is either. Useless all talk Never Trumper.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 9:05:33am

re: #277 KGxvi

Most restaurants in California, at least around me, have gone back to paper/cardboard to go boxes instead of styrofoam. And I’d much prefer if a lot of the stuff I get in plastic containers came in glass ones instead.

The grocery chain Wegmans based in Rochester, NY is eliminating plastic grocery bags by this time next year. I have not asked yet in the local one here in eastern PA whether they will be following suit at the same time.

I use canvas bag for grocery shopping so this doesn’t bother me. About the only thing I use the plastic bags for is hauling used cat litter to the dumpster.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 9:07:43am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany has had a mandatory deposit on all water, beer and soft-drink bottles since 2002.

We’ve had that here for a long time too, but five cents doesn’t mean much to most people.

Which is why we see homeless people with hefty bags dragging themselves down the street, pulling the five-cent containers out of the trash cans, to take to supermarkets to redeem. 3 or 4 hours of work gets them enough money for a McDonald’s Value-Meal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 9:08:20am
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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 9:08:31am

Contempt and perjury would seem to be good places to start with Barr, but I’m sure we can find others if we dig.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 9:08:41am

re: #335 lawhawk

Meanwhile, over in the Senate, we’ve got more Democrats seemingly interested in running for president than looking to retake the Senate from the craven GOPers.

In fairness to the Democrats already in the Senate, the work of taking control of the Senate is really on the Democrats currently not in the Senate. And I believe most of the Senate Democrats running for president (remember, it’s basically a prerequisite to be a Senator that you believe you can/should be president one day) are from states with a Democratic governor, so if they do manage to become president, the Dems won’t necessarily lose their seat (looking at you, Bernie)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 9:09:40am

Orgy-Os? Oh wait, those are adult cookies.

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ipsos  May 2, 2019 • 9:09:46am

re: #341 Feline Fearless Leader

The grocery chain Wegmans based in Rochester, NY is eliminating plastic grocery bags by this time next year. I have not asked yet in the local one here in eastern PA whether they will be following suit at the same time.

Hi from Wegmans HQ city! From what local media accounts have been saying, it’s only Wegmans stores in New York that are getting rid of the plastic bags this year, getting ahead of the statewide ban on them that will take effect next year.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 9:09:55am

re: #281 Dave In Austin

Surprisingly, I’ve never seen this done in real life. And I’ve spent some time around horses and livestock in my time.

Interesting process. especially the “Fitting”.

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I’ve watched my brother-in-law reshoe a Clydesdale to help a split hoof heal up. The horses are generally fairly tame about having a hoof worked on, but this gelding (who was about 6’ 3” at the shoulder) got a little figgity and my brother-in-law had to yell at him.

Ah, I do have a picture of him doing some shoe work.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:10:42am

re: #346 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Orgy-Os? Oh wait, those are adult cookies.

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Lucky Charms but with Jameson infused marshmallows.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 9:10:53am

re: #342 sagehen

We’ve had that here for a long time too, but five cents doesn’t mean much to most people.

Germans don’t f*ck around, 25 euro cents deposit for plastic, 8 cents for glass.

Joke is that my 1.5 liter bottles of mineral water cost 19 cents, less than the deposit…

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 9:11:19am

re: #328 Mike Lamb

I’d guess a lot. There doesn’t appear to be much in the way of nerve endings in the hoof, but I suspect the farrier finds out real quick if he took too much off…

They don’t get kicked very often, because Chapter One in farrier training is DON’T STAND BEHIND HIM YOU IDIOT!!

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 9:11:45am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

If Rick’s mind is changing, I wonder about Pelosi, Hoyer, and the rest of the leadership. I get their caution but you need to do the right thing. Barr and Trump has decided that it’s okay for a President to obstruct an investigation if he feels the investigation is without merit. That’s dangerous not just for now but the future.

Trump and Barr are obstructing because the investigation *has* merit. Their excuse is claiming it does not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 9:11:51am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Pentagon says reports of military sexual assaults jumped by 13% last year, but an anonymous survey of service members suggests the problem is vastly larger.

If the Commander-in-Chief can get away with being a pussy-grabber, why should the chain of command not be exempted as well?

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 9:12:36am

re: #341 Feline Fearless Leader

The grocery chain Wegmans based in Rochester, NY is eliminating plastic grocery bags by this time next year. I have not asked yet in the local one here in eastern PA whether they will be following suit at the same time.

I use canvas bag for grocery shopping so this doesn’t bother me. About the only thing I use the plastic bags for is hauling used cat litter to the dumpster.

I usually use canvas bags too. Every once in a while, I might stop and get a few things without having my bag(s), but I always make a point of using paper bags.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 9:12:52am

re: #346 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Special KY

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:14:11am

re: #352 Feline Fearless Leader

Trump and Barr are obstructing because the investigation *has* merit. Their excuse is claiming it does not.

Exactly. I’m saying you don’t get to obstruct an investigation because you don’t like it.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 9:16:10am

re: #303 Dave In Austin

I wonder through the course of a career as a Farrier. How many times they get kicked and bit.

My brother-in-law says that you learn pretty quickly the signs that they’re about to try to bite or kick you. You avoid being directly behind them, especially when there is a chance something will startle them. And you learn to dodge.

I watched him dodge getting kicked by a foal he’d just shoved for being slow to get into a stall with its mother one night. Its hooves just brushed his chest. And he was happy it’d tried to kick him since that was a sign it was getting better at defending itself.

There’s a picture of the foal and its mother.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2019 • 9:16:30am

re: #145 MsJ

Holy cow…that picture is…something. Like a jigsaw human being.

Not with that face, toots. First, you’re not blonde and you’re nowhere near pretty enough to be have a conservative media career. You’re a tad too chubby for the short skirted, crossed leg to maximize thigh visibility, giving old, lecherous white dudes their cherished woody-while-imbibing-fake-news.

Not a chance I will ever feel for you, either. Maybe you can panhandle for the drugs your cohorts plan on taking away from you.

Womp. Fucking. Womp.

The paste-on eyebrows are weird and creepy.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 9:16:45am

re: #347 ipsos

Hi from Wegmans HQ city! From what local media accounts have been saying, it’s only Wegmans stores in New York that are getting rid of the plastic bags this year, getting ahead of the statewide ban on them that will take effect next year.

Suffolk County on Long Island (my county, hi!) instituted a 5 cent charge for plastic bags at the beginning of the year, and most people have gone to using re-usable shopping bags in the markets.

I’ll still drop the nickel from time to time in order to have a supply of bags to use when cleaning out litter boxes, though.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 9:18:25am

re: #313 KGxvi

We’ve got the CRV here, which is either a nickle or a dime, depending on the size of the container. But I don’t know how much of an effect it has on most people (hell, I know I rarely collect it)

The bottled carbonated water I buy here in eastern PA is a $1 more expensive in New York state. And there is a $.05 deposit on the bottles in NY, so more than half the price difference would be covered by returning the bottles. Mine here go into the apartment’s recycling bin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 9:20:10am

re: #360 Feline Fearless Leader

The bottled carbonated water I buy here in eastern PA is a $1 more expensive in New York state. And there is a $.05 deposit on the bottles in NY, so more than half the price difference would be covered by returning the bottles. Mine here go into the apartment’s recycling bin.

Germany also has a dual system which recycles most plastic waste. I throw very little into the non-recycling bin.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 9:21:08am

re: #342 sagehen

We’ve had that here for a long time too, but five cents doesn’t mean much to most people.

Which is why we see homeless people with hefty bags dragging themselves down the street, pulling the five-cent containers out of the trash cans, to take to supermarkets to redeem. 3 or 4 hours of work gets them enough money for a McDonald’s Value-Meal.

There’s a bunch of bible verses about this sort of thing:

Leviticus 19:9-10
‘Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. ‘Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 23:22
‘When you reap the harvest of your land, moreover, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field nor gather the gleaning of your harvest; you are to leave them for the needy and the alien. I am the LORD your God.’”

Ruth 2:2-3
And Ruth the Moabitess said to Naomi, “Please let me go to the field and glean among the ears of grain after one in whose sight I may find favor.” And she said to her, “Go, my daughter.” So she departed and went and gleaned in the field after the reapers; and she happened to come to the portion of the field belonging to Boaz, who was of the family of Elimelech.

Deuteronomy 24:19-21
“When you reap your harvest in your field and have forgotten a sheaf in the field, you shall not go back to get it; it shall be for the alien, for the orphan, and for the widow, in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. “When you beat your olive tree, you shall not go over the boughs again; it shall be for the alien, for the orphan, and for the widow. “When you gather the grapes of your vineyard, you shall not go over it again; it shall be for the alien, for the orphan, and for the widow.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 9:21:15am

re: #337 retired cynic

Alsace is where my “tail male” line comes from as well… About nine generations back, but still: hello, cousin!

Got some Alsatian ancestry as well on my mother’s side. Culturally German however and not French.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 9:22:42am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

If Rick’s mind is changing, I wonder about Pelosi, Hoyer, and the rest of the leadership. I get their caution but you need to do the right thing. Barr and Trump has decided that it’s okay for a President to obstruct an investigation if he feels the investigation is without merit. That’s dangerous not just for now but the future.

i think they are very carefully doing some things publicly - see pelosi above on camera and twitter, and they are also very carefully not tipping their thinking

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 9:23:26am

re: #347 ipsos

Hi from Wegmans HQ city! From what local media accounts have been saying, it’s only Wegmans stores in New York that are getting rid of the plastic bags this year, getting ahead of the statewide ban on them that will take effect next year.

Ah, so I misheard it, but was in the general ballpark.

How’s the weather on the lake today? I heard there was some snow after I was in the region over Easter. (My brother lives a bit south of you near Geneseo.)

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ipsos  May 2, 2019 • 9:25:29am

re: #365 Feline Fearless Leader

Ah, so I misheard it, but was in the general ballpark.

How’s the weather on the lake today? I heard there was some snow after I was in the region over Easter. (My brother lives a bit south of you near Geneseo.)

We got traces of snow last weekend, but nothing stuck here in town. It touched the 70s yesterday, rainy and mid-40s today. Name your weather and we have it here!

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 9:28:28am

And this is the stallion that would nip you if you were not paying attention

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 9:31:16am

re: #353 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the Commander-in-Chief can get away with being a pussy-grabber, why should the chain of command not be exempted as well?

Combination of a pudgy pussy grabber in the WH and the #metoo movement. Those abused are more likely to come forward now than ever before.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 9:32:06am

re: #367 Feline Fearless Leader

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If I was a girl horse, he’d definitely catch my eye.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 9:32:35am

Justice (well, something like that)

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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 9:33:01am

re: #334 Belafon

That’s making me laugh. He’s needs to add chickentrump to get Trump to react.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 9:34:19am
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MsJ  May 2, 2019 • 9:34:57am

re: #336 sagehen

Butthurt conservative upset that smart folk unaware of who…who? is.

LMAO!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 9:35:37am
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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 9:35:38am

The growing list of Senate Democrats demanding #DisBarr’s resignation:

Warren, Harris, Booker, Blumenthal, Hirono, and Gillibrand.

He wont resign or be forced to resign by Trump, because Barr’s doing exactly what Trump wants - run interference for Trump to delay and deny Democrats access to Trump’s records and to attempt to put off impeachment for as long as possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 9:35:52am

The chicken and the pullet

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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 9:36:17am

re: #335 lawhawk

I think Pelosi has always expected to get to impeachment, but knew she had to bring the populace along in order to get there. She is increasing the use of impeachment language in a measured way.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 9:37:28am
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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 9:37:46am

re: #338 HappyWarrior

My oldest direct line in the US btw! Arrived in Pennsylvania during Washington’s administration. One of the daughters married an Irish emigrant who was my great grandfather’s grandfather. Had always thought that line was 100% Irish but nope.

Mine came over about 1660.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 9:38:38am

This is a tad embarrassing
And, pretty much par for the course with this administration

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 9:38:44am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:38:59am

re: #379 retired cynic

Mine came over about 1660.

Damn.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 9:40:55am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

I want impeachment hearings because I think the American people need to see how this administration has deceived them from day one.

‘if you don’t like these hearings, talk to the people who did these things to you, not the people who brought them to your attention”

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Targetpractice  May 2, 2019 • 9:42:29am

Best guess: Donny got notice from Mitch that even with Mike’s vote he couldn’t guarantee Moore would be confirmed, at least not without major political damage being done in the process. And Donny, ever refusing to be associated with a “loser,” decided to toss Moore under the bus before the hearings could begin in earnest.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 9:42:31am

re: #348 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve watched my brother-in-law reshoe a Clydesdale to help a split hoof heal up. The horses are generally fairly tame about having a hoof worked on, but this gelding (who was about 6’ 3” at the shoulder) got a little figgity and my brother-in-law had to yell at him.

I said before that what we raised were horses, and had 170 at one point. My husband did all of the trimming himself, but we didn’t use shoes. Our ground was sandy, and that helped wear the hooves down so it wasn’t necessary to trim them very much. Thank goodness!

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 9:47:27am

re: #351 sagehen

They don’t get kicked very often, because Chapter One in farrier training is DON’T STAND BEHIND HIM YOU IDIOT!!

horses tend to kick straight back, while cows have that sideways thing going

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 9:48:42am

re: #386 DangerMan

horses tend to kick straight back, while cows have that sideways thing going

Something tells me that many, many years ago, that was the deciding factor in “which should we eat and which should we ride?”

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2019 • 9:48:54am

re: #377 retired cynic

I think Pelosi has always expected to get to impeachment, but knew she had to bring the populace along in order to get there. She is increasing the use of impeachment language in a measured way.

Pelosi is like “Don’t make me do this!”

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 9:49:47am

re: #379 retired cynic

Mine came over about 1660.

I love watching “Finding Your Roots”.

William H Macy’s great-great-don’tknowhowmanygreats-grandpa used to own Nantucket. The whole island.

John McCain knew he came from a long line of military on his dad’s side; he didn’t realize his great-great-don’tknowhowmanygreats-grandpa ON HIS MOTHER’S SIDE was George Washington’s CO in the French & Indian War. Gates even found a really nice evaluation he’d written of his “impressive young officer who will surely go far in his career.”

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Teukka  May 2, 2019 • 9:50:41am

re: #388 The Vicious Babushka

Pelosi is like “Don’t make me do this!”

Personally, the more rope the maladministration and its sycophants get to hang themselves with…
Also, that article about the girl who bailed from the alt-right kinda has given me a new “psych” line to use:
Get out while you can.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 9:51:33am

re: #387 KGxvi

Something tells me that many, many years ago, that was the deciding factor in “which should we eat and which should we ride?”

Actually, riding a cow is like riding a table, which riding a horse is riding a suspension bridge. Much easier on the spine!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:52:16am

re: #389 sagehen

I love watching “Finding Your Roots”.

William H Macy’s great-great-don’tknowhowmanygreats-grandpa used to own Nantucket. The whole island.

John McCain knew he came from a long line of military on his dad’s side; he didn’t realize his great-great-don’tknowhowmanygreats-grandpa ON HIS MOTHER’S SIDE was George Washington’s CO in the French & Indian War. Gates even found a really nice evaluation he’d written of his “impressive young officer who will surely go far in his career.”

I would love to see what Gates would find on me. I think my family was mostly poor farmers whether in Germany, Ireland, Slovakia, or Slovenia but you never assume.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 9:52:38am

re: #387 KGxvi

Something tells me that many, many years ago, that was the deciding factor in “which should we eat and which should we ride?”

nah; it’s based on who’s prettier. (also who’s faster, taller, and skinny enough to straddle).

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retired cynic  May 2, 2019 • 9:53:06am

re: #393 sagehen

nah; it’s based on who’s prettier. (also who’s faster, taller, and skinny enough to straddle).

Yes, that, too!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:53:13am

re: #387 KGxvi

Something tells me that many, many years ago, that was the deciding factor in “which should we eat and which should we ride?”

And the French said, why not both- for eating.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 9:53:23am

Trump’s just tweeted out nice things about Moore….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 9:53:39am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

I would love to see what Gates would find on me. I think my family was mostly poor farmers whether in Germany, Ireland, Slovakia, or Slovenia but you never assume.

My grandparents were all from the old Austro-Hungarian Empire: Slovakia, Croatia, Bohemia, etc.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:54:57am

This talk of horses tho. Dad’s parents raised them in their later years. Both their families had connections to horses. His father’s grandfather was a blacksmith and his mother’s father was a teamster whose father was a hostler(stable manager at a tavern).

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:55:50am

re: #397 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My grandparents were all from the old Austro-Hungarian Empire: Slovakia, Croatia, Bohemia, etc.

Yep. AH for my mom and German/British for my Dad’s. I’m not fond of empires or emperors.

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Teukka  May 2, 2019 • 9:56:22am

h/t JJ McNab

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 9:56:37am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

I would love to see what Gates would find on me. I think my family was mostly poor farmers whether in Germany, Ireland, Slovakia, or Slovenia but you never assume.

“Grandpa, come downstairs, the soccer game is starting!”

-“Who’s playing?”

“Austria-Hungary!”

-“Against whom?”

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 9:58:59am

re: #400 Teukka

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h/t JJ McNab

FNC, Breitbart, etc tells these losers they’re victims and they believe it. And note this happened in Portland. Progressive meccas like that aren’t immune from this shit.

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BlueGrl21  May 2, 2019 • 10:05:36am

re: #367 Feline Fearless Leader

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They’re all so beautiful. I love horses.

Grew up with them. You learn very young to respect their size, hooves, and teeth and you learn the signs of a twitchy or pissed off horse.

I once had to ride a horse being forced to swim in the Yellowstone River. River was deeper than we thought, stupid. Poor guy was terrified but he did what I told him to do.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 10:13:26am

i was walking him on a lead line.
he decided to buck
pulled the rope from my hand, did a half twist and whammo
kicked me square in the ribs and right arm

xrays, nothing broken.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 10:16:52am

re: #381 lawhawk

The latest in a long line of awful Trump nominations. Just watch for Trump to find someone even worse, because that’s what Trump does - find the dregs and elevate them to important positions where they can undermine functioning govt.

trump of course wants a toady

it looks like there are enough R senators who dont want to delegitimize the fed for a decade or two

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2019 • 10:17:27am

re: #403 BlueGrl21

They’re all so beautiful. I love horses.

Grew up with them. You learn very young to respect their size, hooves, and teeth and you learn the signs of a twitchy or pissed off horse.

I once had to ride a horse being forced to swim in the Yellowstone River. River was deeper than we thought, stupid. Poor guy was terrified but he did what I told him to do.

Other than kiddie pony rides, I’ve ridden a horse once. My GF was horsey, and decided we should rent something from a West Side “riding academy” and go around Central Park. So, my first few minutes on a real horse were on 79th Street, watching taxicabs zip by my stirrups. We got around the reservoir, the horse decided I’d had enough, and back down to Columbus Ave at his pace. Turns out knowing something about riding makes a big difference in how you feel the next day. I was 21, and haven’t felt that bad in the last 54 years.

Synopsis: A girl can get a 21 year old to do just about any damn thing.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 10:21:35am

re: #400 Teukka

“You’re on video macing me,” Christian continued, pointing at Hester and growing increasingly agitated. “Liar. Liar. Liar! You’re not the only black person on MAX, liar. Manufacturing hate crimes. Liar!”

Christian, a political extremist who has expressed hatred of women, minorities and liberals, is facing trial for the double murder of Ricky Best and Taliesin Namkai-Meche in May 2017. The two men interrupted his rant directed at two black teenage girls.

This guy definitely needs to have his TV taken from him.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 10:23:38am

re: #384 Targetpractice

Best guess: Donny got notice from Mitch that even with Mike’s vote he couldn’t guarantee Moore would be confirmed, at least not without major political damage being done in the process. And Donny, ever refusing to be associated with a “loser,” decided to toss Moore under the bus before the hearings could begin in earnest.

Probably. But I’m guessing that this time, - for a change - instead of nominating the worst idiots he can scrape up to the vacant Fed seats, Trump (or whoever deals with this crap for him) will nominate some uncontroversial nonentities, and make sure (or have somebody make sure) that: 1) they’re thoroughly vetted for idiocy; and 2) that Mitch McConnell and the Senate GOPers are on board beforehand. IOW, the basic politics of nominations: which The Donald is so bad at….

Then again, he might nominate Melania and Ivanka, just to fuck with us all, so who knows….?

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 10:28:24am

People putting up unqualified cronies for appointments is not that new. Remember W floating Harriet Miers for a seat on the Supremes to replace Sandra Day O’Connor when she retired?

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DodgerFan1988  May 2, 2019 • 10:29:56am

Now Ben is going to use this to smear all his critics as violent terrorists.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 10:31:12am

I don’t put much into polls right now, but it seems everyone has a poll saying they would be the best, including Beto:

Beto vs Trump 52/42
Biden: 51/45
Bernie: 50/44
Pete: 47/44
Kamala: 49/45
Warren: 47/49

h/t dailykos.com

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:32:11am

re: #410 DodgerFan1988

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Now Ben is going to use this to smear all his critics as violent terrorists.

He doesn’t deserve death threats but he’s part of a culture that makes it acceptable. Motherfucker loved paling with Milo and Breitbart paid his bills for years.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:34:49am

re: #411 Belafon

I don’t put much into polls right now, but it seems everyone has a poll saying they would be the best, including Beto:

Beto vs Trump 52/42
Biden: 51/45
Bernie: 50/44
Pete: 47/44
Kamala: 49/45
Warren: 47/49
Trump doesn’t poll over 50 against anyone. That should scare them shitless.
h/t dailykos.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 10:34:57am

Anyone else worried about what the RWNJs are going to do after Trump eventually leaves office?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:35:42am

re: #414 Eclectic Cyborg

Anyone else worried about what the RWNJs are going to do after Trump eventually leaves office?

Of course.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 10:36:26am

re: #410 DodgerFan1988

Now Ben is going to use this to smear all his critics as violent terrorists.

I don’t want to make light of it too much, but Ben should let us know when he feels sympathy for Omar or AOC.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:39:01am

re: #416 Belafon

I don’t want to make light of it too much, but Ben should let us know when he feels sympathy for Omar or AOC.

Yep. Or the trans students he was fine with his old pal Milo harassing. He doesn’t deserve death threats but maybe he should fucking apologize for being a douchebag.

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Citizen K  May 2, 2019 • 10:39:26am
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 10:39:39am

re: #415 HappyWarrior

Of course.

They’ll latch onto the next RW populist that comes along screeching that he will put it to the liberals and brown people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 10:45:01am

re: #419 Feline Fearless Leader

They’ll latch onto the next RW populist that comes along screeching that he will put it to the liberals and brown people.

They’re really going to lose their shit when demographics start to turn against them in a decade or so.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 10:46:07am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

Yep. Or the trans students he was fine with his old pal Milo harassing. He doesn’t deserve death threats but maybe he should fucking apologize for being a douchebag.

Well, I won’t hold my breath: nor bother racking my brain for any recollection of any wingnut ever apologizing for anything (without a court order).

Still, according to TMZ, BS filed a complaint with the LAPD (presumably where he lives??), but the perp was nabbed in Kent, WA (Sea-Tac area), so I’m guessing this is more of an online, vs. an in-your-face threat. Still good to see someone is on the ball, though.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 10:46:29am

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Trump doesn’t poll over 50 against anyone. That should scare them shitless.

Hell, he doesn’t get over 45% against anyone other than Warren. For what it’s worth, he’s in a much worse place than Bush was in 2004 (fun fact: at this time in 2004 Joe fucking Lieberman was the frontrunner).

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 10:47:25am

re: #408 Jay C

Probably. But I’m guessing that this time, - for a change - instead of nominating the worst idiots he can scrape up to the vacant Fed seats, Trump (or whoever deals with this crap for him) will nominate some uncontroversial nonentities, and make sure (or have somebody make sure) that: 1) they’re thoroughly vetted for idiocy; and 2) that Mitch McConnell and the Senate GOPers are on board beforehand. IOW, the basic politics of nominations: which The Donald is so bad at….

Then again, he might nominate Melania and Ivanka, just to fuck with us all, so who knows….?

There you go again thinking they’ll pivot to competence even just this once….

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:47:30am

re: #421 Jay C

Well, I won’t hold my breath: nor bother racking my brain for any recollection of any wingnut ever apologizing for anything (with a court order).

Still, according to TMZ, BS filed a complaint with the LAPD (presumably where he lives??), but the perp was nabbed in Kent, WA (Sea-Tac area), so I’m guessing this is more of an online, vs. an in-your-face threat. Still good to see someone is on the ball, though.

Yeah I’m glad that someone was on it. Obviously death threats are wrong but that dude has a lot to learn and he could learn by looking at himself and the movement he’s in.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:48:31am

re: #422 KGxvi

Hell, he doesn’t get over 45% against anyone other than Warren. For what it’s worth, he’s in a much worse place than Bush was in 2004 (fun fact: at this time in 2004 Joe fucking Lieberman was the frontrunner).

Which is why I think there’s a long way to go. I think Harris would make a good candidate. Pair her with Beto, Castro, or someone else.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 10:48:49am

re: #418 Citizen K

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:49:29am

re: #420 Eclectic Cyborg

They’re really going to lose their shit when demographics start to turn against them in a decade or so.

May their sons be gay and may their daughters marry immigrants.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:50:24am

re: #426 lawhawk

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Graham is such a pathetic hack. Bashes the FBI agents for what he was saying about Trump.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 10:51:16am

re: #423 DangerMan

There you go again thinking they’ll pivot to competence even just this once….

Not if it’s left up to Trump: hence my comments about somebody handling it for him: on his own, he’d probably nominate Stephen Miller and Rudy Giuliani….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 10:52:02am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 10:52:58am

re: #430 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. He’s all out of fucks to give. Barr doesn’t deserve respect.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 10:54:05am

re: #420 Eclectic Cyborg

They’re really going to lose their shit when demographics start to turn against them in a decade or so.

More voter suppression and other methods to reduce minority and “liberal” turnout. They are already trying to change the rules to prevent the demographic tide that is engulfing them. And once Texas goes purple the GOP is doomed in terms of Presidential elections.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 2, 2019 • 10:54:54am

re: #313 KGxvi

We’ve got the CRV here, which is either a nickle or a dime, depending on the size of the container. But I don’t know how much of an effect it has on most people (hell, I know I rarely collect it)

Where I live, poor and homeless people collect them and turn them in. Which is fine with me.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 10:55:04am

re: #411 Belafon

I don’t put much into polls right now, but it seems everyone has a poll saying they would be the best, including Beto:

Beto vs Trump 52/42
Biden: 51/45
Bernie: 50/44
Pete: 47/44
Kamala: 49/45
Warren: 47/49

h/t dailykos.com

polls like this are like the ‘impeachment’ argument

it’s very early
there’s been no debate yet
the first primary is still a long way off
it’s a candidate, not a ticket

like talking ‘impeachment’ (as in senate trial) before there’s been any substantive hearings or investigation in the house. heck they dont even have the full mueller report and the supporting dox

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 10:58:15am

re: #429 Jay C

Not if it’s left up to Trump: hence my comments about somebody handling it for him: on his own, he’d probably nominate Stephen Miller and Rudy Giuliani….

I was funnin’

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 10:58:56am
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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 10:59:56am

re: #434 DangerMan

Impeachment is the 2 stage process.

The House kicks off the impeachment process with gathering the evidence and then voting on articles of impeachment to send to the Senate to try with the outcome being removal if 2/3 vote aye.

Based on Mueller, there’s at least 10 separate obstruction charges you could investigate more fully in the House. Obstruction is clearly a high crime as per GOP treatment of Clinton in 1999.

There’s also the Cohen-Trump money laundering case where Trump is an unindicted coconspirator. Money laundering is a federal felony. That’s a high crime.

Throw in conspiracy against the US, interfering in ongoing investigations, etc., and you could easily find 20-30 charges to send on to the Senate. Let the Senate GOP defend a corrupt Trump. Nay, force the GOP Senate to defend a corrupt Trump. Give them no quarter, and harass them to the end of time for it. Zero tolerance for this crap.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 11:00:27am

re: #430 Backwoods_Sleuth

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White House officials don’t think we are giving Attorney General Bill Barr enough respect

The white house should start respecting the Constitution

Then we’ll talk

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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2019 • 11:01:25am

I doubt Trump objected to Moore’s hackery or his misogyny. Probably canned him because he looks goofy when he wears his glasses frames over his hair.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 11:01:52am

re: #432 Feline Fearless Leader

More voter suppression and other methods to reduce minority and “liberal” turnout. They are already trying to change the rules to prevent the demographic tide that is engulfing them. And once Texas goes purple the GOP is doomed in terms of Presidential elections.

And texas probably won’t flip all by itself

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 11:03:03am

OK, that’s the first time I’ve seen someone flip a bird in a fast food commercial

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 11:04:55am

re: #437 lawhawk

Impeachment is the 2 stage process.

The House kicks off the impeachment process with gathering the evidence and then voting on articles of impeachment to send to the Senate to try with the outcome being removal if 2/3 vote aye.

Based on Mueller, there’s at least 10 separate obstruction charges you could investigate more fully in the House. Obstruction is clearly a high crime as per GOP treatment of Clinton in 1999.

There’s also the Cohen-Trump money laundering case where Trump is an unindicted coconspirator. Money laundering is a federal felony. That’s a high crime.

Throw in conspiracy against the US, interfering in ongoing investigations, etc., and you could easily find 20-30 charges to send on to the Senate. Let the Senate GOP defend a corrupt Trump. Nay, force the GOP Senate to defend a corrupt Trump. Give them no quarter, and harass them to the end of time for it. Zero tolerance for this crap.

..is what I’m sayin

And ‘polling’ how the senate would vote today is way premature

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 11:06:09am

re: #357 Feline Fearless Leader

Thanks for the follow up. I find it somewhat fascinating. Aside from farrier work does he blacksmith or bladesmith?

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 11:07:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 11:08:03am

re: #441 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, that’s the first time I’ve seen someone flip a bird in a fast food commercial

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I saw the story about the new BK “joke” and figured the company did it because it was mean enough for DT so he would like BK than McD.

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 11:10:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 11:12:44am
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 11:12:55am

re: #443 Dave In Austin

Thanks for the follow up. I find it somewhat fascinating. Aside from farrier work does he blacksmith or bladesmith?

Primarily horses. Though I think at this stage he is semi-retiring since I hear his place in Colorado is for sale. Not sure whether he’ll keep a hand in the game with just a few. But he never had a lot of Clydedales at one time anyways. Usually 1-3 mares, a stallion, and a few offspring that would be raised for 3-4 years and then sold.

From my understanding his standing in that particular niche area is pretty good. He has had Grand Champion or Reserve Grand Champion horses in the National Western Stock Show in Denver repeatedly.

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Citizen K  May 2, 2019 • 11:13:38am

Matt has some good takes but he still has the failing of excess credulity sometimes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 11:17:43am

re: #441 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, that’s the first time I’ve seen someone flip a bird in a fast food commercial

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For a moment there I wasn’t that was real.

But it is. That’s kind of awesome.

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EPR-radar  May 2, 2019 • 11:19:41am

re: #449 Citizen K

It’s just more efficient to assume every Republican and fellow traveler is a lying corrupt crook until there’s evidence showing otherwise. Mueller appears to be the only prominent exception to this rule.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2019 • 11:37:51am

re: #409 Feline Fearless Leader

People putting up unqualified cronies for appointments is not that new. Remember W floating Harriet Miers for a seat on the Supremes to replace Sandra Day O’Connor when she retired?

She would have been a far superior judge to Samuel Alito, who was then nominated. She may not have his knowledge or experience but better her than a right wing ideologue.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 11:50:54am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2019 • 12:19:59pm

re: #410 DodgerFan1988

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Now Ben is going to use this to smear all his critics as violent terrorists.

What’s the likelihood that most of these threats are coming from the alt-right?

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Scottish Dragon  May 2, 2019 • 12:22:48pm

re: #446 gocart mozart

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