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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 11:27:54am

Piano woogie boogie massages for meow

Cat enjoying the entertainment and massage, other than the glissando.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 11:31:34am

Oh, look, another article of impeachment:

The U.S. State Department allowed at least seven foreign governments to rent luxury condominiums in New York’s Trump World Tower in 2017 without approval from Congress, according to documents and people familiar with the leases, a potential violation of the U.S. Constitution’s emoluments clause.

Anyone want to bet that the cost of those condos was way more than his salary as president?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 11:33:18am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 11:36:56am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 11:38:07am
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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 11:39:08am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How empty must your life be… ?

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BlueGrl21  May 2, 2019 • 11:40:21am

Just saw Facebook…and therefore, Instagram as well….are lowering the ban hammer on some of our favorite right-wing provocateurs here at Little Green Footballs.

Link

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Citizen K  May 2, 2019 • 11:41:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 11:43:09am
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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 11:45:06am

re: #8 Citizen K

I’m going to go with “the Vice-President of the United States”

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 11:47:23am

I’m ready for a snap-off.

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Interesting Times  May 2, 2019 • 11:47:35am

re: #10 KGxvi

I’m going to go with “the Vice-President of the United States”

I’m going to guess (without looking at the replies) that it’s a “trick” question and the answer is Louis Farrakhan (mainly because he’s trending right now -_- At first, I assumed it must’ve been because of some durr hurr libz are teh real hate speech bot campaign, but now I see it’s most likely due to his being banned along with Alex Jones et el.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 11:49:56am
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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 11:50:26am

re: #12 Interesting Times

I’m going to guess (without looking at the replies) that it’s a “trick” question and the answer is Louis Farrakhan (mainly because he’s trending right now -_- At first, I assumed it must’ve been because of some durr hurr libz are teh real hate speech bot campaign, but now I see it’s most likely due to his being banned along with Alex Jones et el.)

Why do we pay any attention to Farrakhan, again?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 11:51:17am

I see that article on Katie McHugh is gaining a lot of visibility out there. Still revolted to learn that she went to my college, though I guess the good thing is that, although she apparently started on her radical path there, it was mostly to do with feeling isolated as a conservative racist there.

Although my sympathy for her is limited, it’s worth noting that really, the atmosphere on the Right, and at Breitbart in particular, was all about encouraging her to more and more extreme opinions, even rewarding them, and only giving the occasional wag of the finger (accompanied by a wink) as she sunk lower and lower. Until, that is, they found her more useful as a sacrifice - then they tossed her out.

Same thing as Milo - find someone needy with no moral compass, build them up, encourage them to be ‘edgy’ and say the outrageous, then cut ‘em loose to drown after you’ve encouraged them to say and do things they can’t take back.

But you know, there are a whole lot of young people who feel isolated and lack a sense of belonging who DON’T become shills for Nazis. So, you know, fuck these guys.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 11:51:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 11:52:18am

re: #14 KGxvi

Why do we pay any attention to Farrakhan, again?

because that’s what we libturds do…

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 11:52:35am
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 11:53:26am

re: #14 KGxvi

Why do we pay any attention to Farrakhan, again?

He’s a hero of the Left. Hadn’t you heard?
//

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 11:56:16am

re: #7 BlueGrl21

Just saw Facebook…and therefore, Instagram as well….are lowering the ban hammer on some of our favorite right-wing provocateurs here at Little Green Footballs.

Link

I can’t really applaud Facebook for this. WAY TOO FUCKING LATE.

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2019 • 11:57:58am

re: #18 jaunte

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Couldn’t defend myself because my crimes were under audit!

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 11:58:44am

re: #18 jaunte

But Trump lawyers blocked Trump—not because they thought Mueller unfair—but b/c they thought Trump would lie

They knew… they knew Trump would lie. Or, alternatively, he would present in a way that would make it inescapably clear that he has no grasp on reality and thus is unfit for office.

Wouldn’t that have been a hell of a disclosure in the Mueller Report? “We interviewed the president, and in each meeting it appeared as if he had no grasp of basic facts, not only related to the incidents under investigation but with respect to things as simple as the color of the paint on the walls of the room.”

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makeitstop  May 2, 2019 • 11:59:27am

Rick Wilson’s short thread on Katie McHugh…

As far as she’s concerned, I’m on Team ‘Womp womp, idiot.’

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2019 • 11:59:28am

re: #18 jaunte

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Their entire defense the whole time has been that he wasn’t obstructing justice he was just defending himself.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 12:00:13pm

re: #11 lawhawk

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steve_davis  May 2, 2019 • 12:01:08pm

re: #1 Feline Fearless Leader

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Video

Cat enjoying the entertainment and massage, other than the glissando.

yeah, that glissando was the expression one gives at the spa when one finds out they’re using coffee from the percolator for the coffee enema.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 12:02:40pm

re: #23 makeitstop

Rick Wilson’s short thread on Katie McHugh…

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As far as she’s concerned, I’m on Team ‘Womp womp, idiot.’

Right. Two things can be true at the same time:

1) The alt-right sucked in and radicalized her and then dumped her when she was more useful as an exile,

And

2) She did awful shit that can’t be erased with “Sorry!”

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Jack Burton  May 2, 2019 • 12:02:44pm

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How many years are we up to where Yolo Minneapolis is violating the terms of his visa? Maybe we can deport him soon, maybe, please?

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steve_davis  May 2, 2019 • 12:02:45pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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in all fairness, it might just _be_ facism. how would anyone ever know?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 2, 2019 • 12:03:26pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

A few less crazies on Facebook today.
When they came for the liars who radicalize idiots, I said “good”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 12:04:24pm

re: #28 Jack Burton

How many years are we up to where Yolo Minneapolis is violating the terms of his visa? Maybe we can deport him soon, maybe, please?

Updung for “Yolo Minneapolis”, if for nothing else.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 12:07:32pm

re: #11 lawhawk

I’m ready for a snap-off.
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 12:10:53pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 12:18:58pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2019 • 12:21:21pm

Haha, nope. You stupid shmucks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 12:22:02pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

Updung for “Yolo Minneapolis”, if for nothing else.

What he said.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 12:23:22pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Haha, nope. You stupid shmucks.

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OFFS.

This is a guy who violates all ten commandments DAILY.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 12:24:26pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Haha, nope. You stupid shmucks.

Only if it’s his faith in the con.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 12:29:41pm
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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 12:31:01pm

re: #39 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

O que é um palpiteiro?
context.reverso.net

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2019 • 12:31:09pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 12:32:33pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Haha, nope. You stupid shmucks.

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What faith?

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 12:34:08pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 12:34:09pm

re: #39 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Greenwald is an angry, little man.

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Scottish Dragon  May 2, 2019 • 12:35:20pm
So get ready. Trump is going to order the Justice Department to launch an investigation of his opponent — probably more than one — and Barr will likely do so eagerly. It doesn’t matter how trivial the substance is, as we learned in 2016 when the fact that Hillary Clinton used the wrong email became the dominant issue of the campaign. Did Elizabeth Warren shake hands with a guy whose cousin’s neighbor dated a mobster? The Justice Department will investigate. Did Bernie Sanders have a congressional intern whose police officer dad fixed a parking ticket for him? The FBI is on it. Did Kamala Harris prosecute someone whose lawyer’s husband got a state contract? Investigations are ongoing.

washingtonpost.com

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 12:35:23pm
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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 12:35:58pm

The Washington Post did a story about Mayor Pete’s husband, Chasten. Betty Cracker covers it here. Remember when someone said that Pete wanted Phish at his inauguration:

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2019 • 12:36:45pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Haha, nope. You stupid shmucks.

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They left off “in the stupidity of his loyalists that no matter what was discovered, they’d never leave him.”

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 12:37:35pm

re: #23 makeitstop

Rick Wilson’s short thread on Katie McHugh…

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As far as she’s concerned, I’m on Team ‘Womp womp, idiot.’

She’s still got a lot to learn but that article was very insightful to what the culture is at Breitbart. Bannon is a fucking monster encouraging the worst in people and it of course predated him. Andrew Breitbart was like that too. I feel bad for his family they lost their loved one but he’s not missed as a political talking head.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 12:40:25pm
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Citizen K  May 2, 2019 • 12:43:32pm

re: #50 lawhawk

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You know, I’ve yet to properly watch one of this guy’s videos.

But every thumbnail I see for them has this thing where the smile never reaches his eyes like he’s watching a slow unfolding horror happening right in front of him.

Considering the subject matter he tends to send up, that seems wholly appropriate.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 12:44:22pm

It’s fire season again!

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Interesting Times  May 2, 2019 • 12:46:26pm

Heh…posting because whoever did the photo layout in the tweet’s thumbnail is a genius:

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 12:46:42pm

re: #50 lawhawk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 12:46:56pm

re: #52 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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It’s fire season again!

dust off those rakes!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 12:52:10pm

re: #53 Interesting Times

Heh…posting because whoever did the photo layout in the tweet’s thumbnail is a genius:

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that letter is one yuge steaming pile.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 12:53:32pm

Took them long enough…. especially with Jones.

And yet they still allow goddamned Nazis to roam the halls, while giving people time outs for calling out the goddamned Nazi scum.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 12:55:00pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 12:55:38pm
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wrenchwench  May 2, 2019 • 12:56:41pm

re: #52 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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It’s fire season again!

At least there was a tiny reprieve for mud-and-rock slide season.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 12:58:49pm
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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 12:59:53pm

Trump campaign still struggling with high school civics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:02:15pm

good fucking grief, Joe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:03:10pm
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William Lewis  May 2, 2019 • 1:03:51pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Haha, nope. You stupid shmucks.

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No not in god; in money.

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2019 • 1:05:24pm

re: #53 Interesting Times

Heh…posting because whoever did the photo layout in the tweet’s thumbnail is a genius:

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What a load of horseshit. Love that they criticize Mueller for not making a simple yes/no decision on whether to pursue criminal obstruction of justice charges while not recognizing that he was expressly prevented from doing so by DOJ regs. I find it likely that they would not like it if he did make a recommendation and this letter further opens it up for Mueller to be asked the simple question: “But for existing DOJ regulations, would you have recommended the President be indicted for obstruction?”

The letter also ignores that Mueller was tasked with something far broader than simply whether the President is a criminal. He was directed to investigate whether and to what extent Russia interfered with the election.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 1:06:52pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 1:07:01pm

re: #34 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Isn’t the highest ranking West Pointer in the room tapping his ring on the table the signal that the lower ranks should shut up since the final decision on the issue is about to be announced?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:08:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:11:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 1:13:11pm

re: #52 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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It’s fire season again!

I took Monday off and spent a big chunk of it on weed reduction in the back yard. All that rain, they kinda took off. Still lots of cutting to do while everything’s still green, before it turns all brown and tinder-y.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:13:15pm
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Interesting Times  May 2, 2019 • 1:13:52pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Only if enough Dems/Dem-leaners in the states that matter can outnumber these guys -_-

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EPR-radar  May 2, 2019 • 1:16:24pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief, Joe

Biden does not get 21st century US politics. Nothing good can come of him saying this. No Republicans will be swayed, the idiots in the middle are too random to predict and are unlikely to care about this shit anyway, and it depresses the (D) base.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 1:17:20pm

re: #73 Interesting Times

Only if enough Dems/Dem-leaners in the states that matter can outnumber these guys -_-

1. What is it about the top 4 that’s different from the rest? //
2. I realize it’s well within MOE, but the number two is interesting.

Edit: when I made this comment, I could only see the second tweet, the one about non-college whites.

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 1:18:03pm

re: #10 KGxvi

It’s definately Farakkan who is absolutely a right winger. he gets branded a leftist because he hates white people.

He’s anti gay, anti abortion, ant feminism and even anti government welfare ‘handouts’. The only reason he gets branded a leftist is because he hates white people.

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EPR-radar  May 2, 2019 • 1:18:36pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

I propose that Lindsay Graham be referred to as Trump’s Talking Colon Polyp from now on.

Graham’s diligence in getting further up Trump’s ass than anyone thought was humanly possible should be rewarded.

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wrenchwench  May 2, 2019 • 1:18:50pm

I’ve been to this one. I had to check a few maps and revive some memory, but I went down that coast of Turkey this far, checking out all some of the ancient Greek sites.

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freetoken  May 2, 2019 • 1:19:17pm

re: #74 EPR-radar

As I noted the other day, time has passed Biden by.

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EPR-radar  May 2, 2019 • 1:20:21pm

re: #76 gocart mozart

It’s definately Farakkan who is absolutely a right winger. he gets branded a leftist because he hates white people.

He’s anti gay, anti abortion, ant feminism and even anti government welfare ‘handouts’. The only reason he gets branded a leftist is because he hates white people.

Classifying Farrakhan in US politics is a challenge. It may be different in other parts of the world, but US conservatism is intrinsically racist, especially against blacks.

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 1:20:38pm

re: #66 Mike Lamb

What a load of horseshit. Love that they criticize Mueller for not making a simple yes/no decision on whether to pursue criminal obstruction of justice charges while not recognizing that he was expressly prevented from doing so by DOJ regs. I find it likely that they would not like it if he did make a recommendation and this letter further opens it up for Mueller to be asked the simple question: “But for existing DOJ regulations, would you have recommended the President be indicted for obstruction?”

The letter also ignores that Mueller was tasked with something far broader than simply whether the President is a criminal. He was directed to investigate whether and to what extent Russia interfered with the election.

ding!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:24:48pm

Back to Barr’s letter to Mueller…it’s amazing that Barr felt qualified to lecture Mueller at length about Mueller’s legal “defects” when Barr admitted yesterday that HE HAD NOT READ ALL OF MUELLER’S REPORT NOR THE UNDERLYING DOCUMENTATION.

jeebus

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 1:25:26pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

Farakkan is a racist just against whites and Jews. If not for the former, he would be no different than Duke or Buchanon. If not for both he would be Pence or Franklin Graham.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 1:25:27pm
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DodgerFan1988  May 2, 2019 • 1:25:39pm

re: #14 KGxvi

Why do we pay any attention to Farrakhan, again?

“Farrakhan represents everything that is wrong with the Black Community.”
— Conservatives

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 1:25:43pm

re: #74 EPR-radar

Biden does not get 21st century US politics. Nothing good can come of him saying this. No Republicans will be swayed, the idiots in the middle are too random to predict and are unlikely to care about this shit anyway, and it depresses the (D) base.

i think it was in 2015

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mmmirele  May 2, 2019 • 1:26:38pm

John Kapoor, former CEO of Insys Pharmaceuticals, along with four others, was found guilty of racketeering and bribery today in Boston. Their crimes were basically bribing doctors to prescribe a fentanyl spray called Subsys and lying to insurers about the patients’ needs for the drug, which is indicated for cancer patients with breakthrough pain. Some of the patients never had cancer.

usatoday.com

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 1:26:51pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 1:27:20pm

re: #76 gocart mozart

It’s definately Farakkan who is absolutely a right winger. he gets branded a leftist because he hates white people.

He’s anti gay, anti abortion, ant feminism and even anti government welfare ‘handouts’. The only reason he gets branded a leftist is because he hates white people.

There’s nothing left wing let alone liberal about him.

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 1:27:59pm
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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 1:28:09pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t believe this needs to be said out loud, but the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee calling the Chief Justice personally and asking him to “look into” how a lower federal court handled a series of cases is so wildly inappropriate as to almost defy description.

lindsey lost his copy of the…, oh why bother.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:31:41pm
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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 1:32:49pm
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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2019 • 1:33:45pm

re: #67 lawhawk

That city just can’t catch a break (I live pretty close by).

At least there’s a new police chief, who seems competent and ethical.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 1:35:18pm

Farrakhan has praised Trump. He hates gays and women and abortion. He’s yours Benny. You just can’t ever admit conservatives can be purveyors or Antisemitism since you’re the poster child for no true conservative Scotsmen.

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wrenchwench  May 2, 2019 • 1:37:03pm

OMG, WeWantPlates has gone all failed-pie and non-plate dinnerware! What’s this world coming to? (I follow too many twits, I never see these guys any more).

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 1:37:10pm

There are people who claimed Jones was far left btw when Jones opposed Bush.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:37:59pm

Kentucky shenanigans…again

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:41:44pm
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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 1:43:36pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being a Democrat.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 1:43:58pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Criticizing the emperor is obvious Lèse-majesté and earns one a trip to the gulag without a trial being necessary. And registering as a Democrat is one as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:44:20pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 1:46:01pm

re: #100 lawhawk

Being a Democrat.

Being named Hillary Clinton.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:50:05pm
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Interesting Times  May 2, 2019 • 1:50:07pm

Ha:

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 1:51:17pm

re: #105 Interesting Times

Ha:

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I already have Goodman as Trump. Need someone shorter for Barr.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:51:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 1:54:26pm
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lawhawk  May 2, 2019 • 1:55:15pm

re: #32 Belafon

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 1:56:10pm

re: #74 EPR-radar

Biden does not get 21st century US politics. Nothing good can come of him saying this. No Republicans will be swayed, the idiots in the middle are too random to predict and are unlikely to care about this shit anyway, and it depresses the (D) base.

I don’t know why he does this. He doesn’t need to hate Cheney but ffs you think Cheney went around saying nice things about Obama, Joe? No in fact he lied about your foreign policy.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 1:57:21pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 1:59:45pm

re: #111 jaunte

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Obstruction of justice. The same thing y’all impeached Clinton for over a consensual affair.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:02:02pm

vomit

proof there is no god: there was no smiting today…not even a little bit.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:02:59pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

vomit

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proof there is no god: there was no smiting today…not even a little bit.

He’s such a fake.

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William Lewis  May 2, 2019 • 2:03:25pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

I already have Goodman as Trump. Need someone shorter for Barr.

Danny DeVito?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 2:04:37pm

re: #73 Interesting Times

Gee, there seems to be an inflection point in the “non-college whites”, somewhere between Sanders and Harris. Something different about the top 4 relative to the bottom 3 comparisons.

What could it be?
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:05:09pm
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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:06:01pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

I propose that Lindsay Graham be referred to as Trump’s Talking Colon Polyp from now on.

Graham’s diligence in getting further up Trump’s ass than anyone thought was humanly possible should be rewarded.

I still like calling him Senator Butters, for the South Park character. It is so, so, so appropriate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 2:07:02pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m actually amazed he got through two tweets without mentioning himself.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:07:05pm

re: #116 Blind Frog Belly White

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Gee, there seems to be an inflection point in the “non-college whites”, somewhere between Sanders and Harris. Something different about the top 4 relative to the bottom 3 comparisons.

What could it be?
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I’m surprised Buttigieg does so well against him among non-college whites.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:07:53pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m actually amazed he got through two tweets without mentioning himself.

$10 says he didn’t write either of those tweets

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 2:08:13pm

re: #118 KGxvi

I still like calling him Senator Butters, for the South Park character. It is so, so, so appropriate.

Yes!

He’s the Butters to Trumps Cartman.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:09:18pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes!

He’s the Butters to Trumps Cartman.

He was Butters to McCain’s Cartman first… though, like Butters, when outside the control of a Cartman-like figure, he seems to be even worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:09:30pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m actually amazed he got through two tweets without mentioning himself.

he probably didn’t write them

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danarchy  May 2, 2019 • 2:10:35pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

There are people who claimed Jones was far left btw when Jones opposed Bush.

Yeah, I remember when he was all 9/11 truthy, folks around here in the bad old days couldn’t stand him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:14:03pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:14:38pm

re: #115 William Lewis

Danny DeVito?

Yes!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:16:53pm

re: #125 danarchy

Yeah, I remember when he was all 9/11 truthy, folks around here in the bad old days couldn’t stand him.

And they were right to do so but he’s always been on the far right.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:18:59pm

Polls have the Dems close in……Texas. Wow.

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EPR-radar  May 2, 2019 • 2:20:10pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

I don’t know why he does this. He doesn’t need to hate Cheney but ffs you think Cheney went around saying nice things about Obama, Joe? No in fact he lied about your foreign policy.

It’s likely that Biden is just too old to see Republicans as what they have now become — enemies of civilization.

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Jack Burton  May 2, 2019 • 2:21:16pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

The Right-Left spectrum starts to overlap, meld, and breakdown in crazyville.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 2:21:45pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

It’s likely that Biden is just too old to see Republicans as what they have now become — enemies of civilization.

He’d probably see it as offering a path out of Trumpism, by blaming Trump, not the GOP itself, for what the GOP has become.

But I think he’s wrong.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:21:54pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

It’s likely that Biden is just too old to see Republicans as what they have now become — enemies of civilization.

Yeah I think so too. I think Biden would be a good President but I think he has a lot of naivete about the Republicans that would hurt his ability to lead.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 2:22:24pm

re: #131 Jack Burton

The Right-Left spectrum starts to overlap, meld, and breakdown in crazyville.

Multidimensional spectra jammed into one dimension tend to do that.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:22:48pm

re: #131 Jack Burton

The Right-Left spectrum starts to overlap, meld, and breakdown in crazyville.

It does but Farrakhan doesn’t have any leftist views. He’s just called a leftist since he’s a black guy and Muslim. Now Robert Mugabe I have no problem him being labeled a leftist since he was the closest living thing ot Stalin for a long time.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:23:07pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

Multidimensional spectra jammed into one dimension tend to do that.

It is interesting that is for sure.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 2:23:28pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Polls have the Dems close in……Texas. Wow.

They did before Trump got elected too. Just sayin’

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:24:30pm

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

He’d probably see it as offering a path our of Trumpism, by blaming Trump, not the GOP itself, for what the GOP has become.

But I think he’s wrong.

I mean I can get talking nice about the late Senator Lugar but Cheney who famously told Pat Leahy to go fuck himself and Cheney who did the usual accuse Obama and his administration of favoring terrorists? Get out of here with that Joe. I’m going to vote for Joe if he’s the nominee.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:25:23pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

They did before Trump got elected too. Just sayin’

True, true. Trump as an incumbent though is a different thing than Trump as a challenger though. I think Trump as an incumbent is more vulnerable than Trump as a challenger which makes him unique IMO.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 2:25:38pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

It is interesting that is for sure.

It’s how you get people who tell you the Liberal Agenda involves institution Sharia Law across America by encouraging same sex marriage, abortion, and equality for women.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:28:22pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s how you get people who tell you the Liberal Agenda involves institution Sharia Law across America by encouraging same sex marriage, abortion, and equality for women.

Exactly. Islamic Fundamentalists aren’t liberals. They’re defintiely right wing. They may not like free market economics but socially? They’re in great agreement with the American religious right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:28:28pm

or as we could say National Brigadeiro Day

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:29:58pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 2:31:07pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

>Exactly. Islamic Fundamentalists aren’t liberals. They’re defintiely right wing. They may not like free market economics but socially? They’re in great agreement with the American religious right.

Hard to believe that Dinesh D’Souza managed to stay in good graces with the Right after saying this about Al Qaeda, that maybe they had a point attacking us because of gays and abortion and women and stuff.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:32:12pm

re: #144 Blind Frog Belly White

>Exactly. Islamic Fundamentalists aren’t liberals. They’re defintiely right wing. They may not like free market economics but socially? They’re in great agreement with the American religious right.

Hard to believe that Dinesh D’Souza managed to stay in good graces with the Right after saying this about Al Qaeda, that maybe they had a point attacking us because of gays and abortion and women and stuff.

Pat Robertson said we deserved 9/11 because of tolerating abortion and gay people. Yet Representative Omar is somehow a Jihadi.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:32:54pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:33:15pm

Wasn’t there someone else in the Christian Right who expressed sympathy for ISIS’ worldview of women and gays?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 2:33:54pm

The heart may want what it wants, but publishers have to sell books.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2019 • 2:34:17pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Pat Robertson said we deserved 9/11 because of tolerating abortion and gay people. Yet Representative Omar is somehow a Jihadi.

Silly man; why you expect logic?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:34:44pm

re: #149 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Silly man; why you expect logic?

Guilty :).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:34:51pm

Greg Dunston and Marie Mckinzie lived on Oakland’s streets for almost 10 years, pushing their carts around with all their belongings and sleeping in the doorway of an Alameda County building.

But for the past three months, the couple have lived among the wealthy — on a nearly $4 million property in one of the Bay Area’s most exclusive neighborhoods in Piedmont. The homeowner, Terrence McGrath, did something few in his position would dare do: He opened his doors to homeless people in need.

Poor, black homeless people — in a mostly white, rich neighborhood.

Dunston and Mckinzie are more than turning heads whenever they venture out onto the sidewalk of Hampton Road — he’s 61 with a stooped walk and she’s 53 with a slight limp. They’re prompting phone calls to the local police.

“My officers are very familiar with who’s living in that house and what (the homeowner’s) trying to do,” Piedmont police Capt. Chris Monahan told me. “When people have called, we’ve not even responded. We’ve called them and said, ‘Oh no, those are the people that live in the house. (The homeowner’s) trying to help them.’ “

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DangerMan  May 2, 2019 • 2:36:15pm

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

He’d probably see it as offering a path out of Trumpism, by blaming Trump, not the GOP itself, for what the GOP has become.

But I think he’s wrong.

Isn’t this from a 2015 interview?

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:37:26pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Islamic Fundamentalists aren’t liberals. They’re defintiely right wing. They may not like free market economics but socially? They’re in great agreement with the American religious right.

This is one of the reasons why I like the X-Y axis set up for a political spectrum instead of a single axis/spectrum.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:37:51pm

re: #152 DangerMan

Isn’t this from a 2015 interview?

I think so. Not sure why it’s trending today. It doesn’t change that I think he’s wrong but I do think this along with the Marijuana group posting the old quotes from his position on marijuana legalization. I have problems with Biden but I don’t like this tactic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:38:40pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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this part:

On March 21, McGrath got a call from a woman representing the neighborhood association who said she was “concerned about the situation.” She told McGrath that neighbors feared for the safety of schoolkids.

“If you say hello to them, they can actually say hello back to you,” McGrath recalled telling the woman.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:39:02pm

re: #153 KGxvi

This is one of the reasons why I like the X-Y axis set up for a political spectrum instead of a single axis/spectrum.

It’s tough. I should have added though, those fundamentalists aren’t any big fans of Marx either. After all, the Mujhadeen were fighting communists in Afghanistan.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:39:32pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

this part:

This McGrath guy seems like a good dude.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 2:39:37pm

re: #153 KGxvi

This is one of the reasons why I like the X-Y axis set up for a political spectrum instead of a single axis/spectrum.

I think you really need t-SNE for this.
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Jack Burton  May 2, 2019 • 2:40:56pm

re: #153 KGxvi

This is one of the reasons why I like the X-Y axis set up for a political spectrum instead of a single axis/spectrum.

I think such a thing would be better but I’ve yet to see a “political compass” that wasn’t designed without an agenda of some kind from a third party, usually the psychotic bastard party Libertarian Party.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 2:41:19pm
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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:41:40pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

It’s tough. I should have added though, those fundamentalists aren’t any big fans of Marx either. After all, the Mujhadeen were fighting communists in Afghanistan.

I always figured that the fight against the communists was mostly because of the state imposed atheism.

The truth is, tyranny can come in many forms, and it is almost always extreme in nature (it sort of has to be, I suppose)

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:42:01pm

re: #159 Jack Burton

I think such a thing would be better but I’ve yet to see a “political compass” that wasn’t designed without an agenda of some kind from a third party, usually the psychotic bastard party Libertarian Party.

I always thought this was the best political test. politicalcompass.org

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2019 • 2:44:02pm
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Jack Burton  May 2, 2019 • 2:44:13pm

re: #158 Blind Frog Belly White

I think you really need t-SNE for this.
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I’d be totally fine describing my political/philosophical positions as a tensor from a 6 dimensional system.

Might force political pundits and their ilk to learn some science.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 2:44:19pm

moron is taking credit for this…it wouldn’t have happened if not for his tariffs…
O_o

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 2:47:45pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m actually amazed he got through two tweets without mentioning himself.

He mentioned God… in his mind, that’s the same thing.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:47:57pm

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

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Oh fuck you Donald. On 9/11, you were bragging and lying that you now had the tallest building in NYC when firefighters including many union members were risking their lives. But I can see why you’re threatened because a bunch of real heroes know you’re not shit and you hate your tough guy image being called as the sham as it is.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:49:02pm

re: #161 KGxvi

I always figured that the fight against the communists was mostly because of the state imposed atheism.

The truth is, tyranny can come in many forms, and it is almost always extreme in nature (it sort of has to be, I suppose)

Yeah you never heard of a centrist autocracy. As for the Communists, it was because of the state imposed atheism but gotta remember that Bin Laden comes from the Saudi elite.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:50:24pm

Foreign policy is tough to measure though.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:50:45pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

I always thought this was the best political test. politicalcompass.org

Heh, I just took the test for the first time in a while. Center-left libertarian, which seems about right.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 2:51:03pm

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

I’ve done more for Firefighters than this dues sucking union will ever do, and I get paid ZERO!

Faint cheer goes up from low paid Polish workers sent back to Poland after finishing Trump’s Bonwit Teller demo.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 2:51:21pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:52:22pm

re: #170 KGxvi

Heh, I just took the test for the first time in a while. Center-left libertarian, which seems about right.

Wow we’re not that far apart: I’m honestly surprised that I’m slightly to your right on economics.
Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 2:52:24pm

re: #18 jaunte

White House letter is weak. Trump could have defended himself anytime. Like, for example,he could have accepted any of Mueller’s invitations to tell his side of the story. But Trump lawyers blocked Trump—not because they thought Mueller unfair—but b/c they thought Trump would lie

Because they know that Trump cannot speak under oath without either contradicting himself or other sworn testimony.

His mouth is a perjury trap that will snap shut as soon as he takes an oath to tell the (don’t make me say it!) truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:53:00pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

Yeah you never heard of a centrist autocracy. As for the Communists, it was because of the state imposed atheism but gotta remember that Bin Laden comes from the Saudi elite.

The Saudis aren’t exactly nihilists when it comes to religion, even among the elite.

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Foreign policy is tough to measure though.

Foreign policy is really probably a third dimension on the XY axis.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 2:54:10pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:55:13pm

re: #175 KGxvi

The Saudis aren’t exactly nihilists when it comes to religion, even among the elite.

Foreign policy is really probably a third dimension on the XY axis.

I think FP is tough because there’s the non-interventionalist left that sounds like the old right like Taft and the internationalist right which isn’t that different from the Wilsonians. I remember Bush often talked that he expected he would be viewed close to what Trump would be. And then you have the realists. Obama’s FP seemed to resemble Bush I more than Bush II.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:55:23pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Wow we’re not that far apart: I’m honestly surprised that I’m slightly to your right on economics.
Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

There’s a few questions where I’m sort of “meh” on the choice and would have preferred a “no opinion” or “neither agree nor disagree”, which probably explains the some of the difference.

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EPR-radar  May 2, 2019 • 2:56:41pm

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because they know that Trump cannot speak under oath without either contradicting himself or other sworn testimony.

His mouth is a perjury trap that will snap shut as soon as he takes an oath to tell the (don’t make me say it!) truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

We have GOP precedent to the effect that a sitting president can be questioned under oath, using a subpoena if needed, in a special prosecutor investigation.

So why didn’t this happen in this case? I find it impossible to believe that Mueller thought Trump’s written answers were so good there was no need to follow up on them.

Therefore this part of the investigation was kneecapped by the political appointees — some combination of Rosenstein and Barr.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:57:01pm

re: #178 KGxvi

There’s a few questions where I’m sort of “meh” on the choice and would have preferred a “no opinion” or “neither agree nor disagree”, which probably explains the some of the difference.

Yeah some of the question phrasing I dislike. Like it’s a waste of time to rehabiliate some prisoners. Yeah I agree with that sort of but I also acknowledge that most prisoners will be getting out of prison at some point so it’s best to treat them humanely for obvious reasons but also prepare them for a life outside of jail.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 2:58:07pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t there someone else in the Christian Right who expressed sympathy for ISIS’ worldview of women and gays?

Dana Rohrabacher used to be tight with the Taliban
talkingpointsmemo.com

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 2:58:19pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

Yeah some of the question phrasing I dislike. Like it’s a waste of time to rehabiliate some prisoners. Yeah I agree with that sort of but I also acknowledge that most prisoners will be getting out of prison at some point so it’s best to treat them humanely for obvious reasons but also prepare them for a life outside of jail.

Yeah, that’s one that jumped out at me. It might be a waste to rehabilitate some prisoners, but that’s different than saying it’s a waste to even try. One is based on experience and observation, the other is based on just writing them off because reasons.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:58:34pm

re: #181 sagehen

Dana Rohrabacher used to be tight with the Taliban
talkingpointsmemo.com

Yep I do remember that quite well.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 2:59:26pm

re: #182 KGxvi

Yeah, that’s one that jumped out at me. It might be a waste to rehabilitate some prisoners, but that’s different than saying it’s a waste to even try. One is based on experience and observation, the other is based on just writing them off because reasons.

Right, I don’t think someone like Dahmer or Bundy could have been rehabilitated but there are murderers who I think can be especially murders of passion.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 3:00:04pm

re: #182 KGxvi

Yeah, that’s one that jumped out at me. It might be a waste to rehabilitate some prisoners, but that’s different than saying it’s a waste to even try. One is based on experience and observation, the other is based on just writing them off because reasons.

Black/White answers to questions where most people are gray.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2019 • 3:01:24pm

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

Black/White answers to questions where most people are gray.

I mean, it’s an internet test, so take it with an entire salt mine. But at least they offer four choices of agree, disagree, strongly agree, strongly disagree.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 3:01:31pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good on the fucking cops for standing up to the racist dicks.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:02:14pm

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

Black/White answers to questions where most people are gray.

Right. It’s why while I identify as a liberal, I don’t like being pigeon holed to what my solutions are. Some things I think the feds need to be involved in, some the state and local authorities, some the free market and individual, and some all or a mix.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 3:05:39pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 3:09:11pm

So, here are two questions that can be looked at a number of ways:

1) Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation.

2) The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.

My view is that companies are tools for making money, and thus to expect them to do anything but maximize profit for shareholders is to expect too much of them. That’s why you can’t trust them and need to regulate them.

Would it be NICE if they could be trusted, and so you don’t need to regulate them? Sure. It would also be nice if I could eat all the ice cream I want and not get fat.

So, this would lead me to agree with BOTH #1 and #2, but I’m sure they’re viewed as conflicting statements. Agreeing with 1 makes you a Lib’rul, and #2 makes you a Conservaturd.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 3:09:28pm

“Medical providers will be allowed faith-based exemptions for some treatments, including abortion, under new federal rule.”

And how quickly will this be challenged in court?

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Jack Burton  May 2, 2019 • 3:10:02pm

re: #186 KGxvi

I mean, it’s an internet test, so take it with an entire salt mine. But at least they offer four choices of agree, disagree, strongly agree, strongly disagree.

I thought that was the test that had a bunch of leading questions to try to show you why you’re really a libertarian and didn’t know it, but I think that’s the one called the “World’s Smallest Political Quiz”.

This one, however, is the one that doesn’t give any neutral or no opinion options to any of the questions and words some of them horribly.

It gave me: Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

but I think with some more nuance it would have been different. Probably closer to the center but still in that quadrant.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:11:02pm

re: #190 Blind Frog Belly White

So, here are two questions that can be looked at a number of ways:

1) Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation.

2) The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.

My view is that companies are tools for making money, and thus to expect them to do anything but maximize profit for shareholders is to expect too much of them. That’s why you can’t trust them and need to regulate them.

Would it be NICE if they could be trusted, and so you don’t need to regulate them? Sure. It would also be nice if I could eat all the ice cream I want and not get fat.

So, this would lead me to agree with BOTH #1 and #2, but I’m sure they’re viewed as conflicting statements. Agreeing with 1 makes you a Lib’rul, and #2 makes you a Conservaturd.

Exactly. I was thinking that too when I saw that question. I don’t think corporations are inherently evil but I think corporations since they will be dealing with the public have some sort of responsibility that goes beyond just making profits for their shareholders.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 3:11:26pm

re: #192 Jack Burton

I’m pretty sure I’d qualify as a Liberal because I prefer a more nuanced answer in most cases than ‘agree/disagree/’.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:12:07pm

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

“Medical providers will be allowed faith-based exemptions for some treatments, including abortion, under new federal rule.”

And how quickly will this be challenged in court?

I would think that people who oppose performing abortions wouldn’t be providing them in the first place.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:13:45pm

re: #192 Jack Burton

I thought that was the test that had a bunch of leading questions to try to show you why you’re really a libertarian and didn’t know it, but I think that’s the one called the “World’s Smallest Political Quiz”.

This one, however, is the one that doesn’t give any neutral or no opinion options to any of the questions and words some of them horribly.

It gave me: Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

but I think with some more nuance it would have been different. Probably closer to the center but still in that quadrant.

YEah you’re thinking of the WSPQ. I remember that one all the way back in 8th grade civics. It’s a useless test designed by a Libertarian to do what you’re talking about. I consider myself to have some libertarian tendencies. I’m pro legalization but I’m also pro government subsidized treatment too.

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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 3:15:58pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is taking credit for this…it wouldn’t have happened if not for his tariffs…
O_o

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This was actually the point of the tariffs, to force companies to invest in the US.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 3:15:58pm
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BlueSpotinAL  May 2, 2019 • 3:16:45pm

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:18:32pm

I think the PC covers me well. I’m a staunch social liberal but I’m a little more nuanced on economics. I typically believe in maximal social freedom but I also see that we’re sharing the planet with other people. I see myself as in between the new left and more centrist based Democrats of the 90’s and people like Obama.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:19:55pm

re: #198 jaunte

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When your religious beliefs get in the way of otehr people’s rights, Mother’s Husband, it’s a fucking problem. You would flip your shit if a Muslim doctor refused to treat you because you’re a Christian.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 3:20:05pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Exactly. I was thinking that too when I saw that question. I don’t think corporations are inherently evil but I think corporations since they will be dealing with the public have some sort of responsibility that goes beyond just making profits for their shareholders.

Ah, but my belief is that’s like leaving a hungry wolf alone with a rabbit and expecting to find both alive in the morning. The wolf will eat the rabbit, because he’s a wolf and that’s what wolves do. You might, if you started when the wolf was young, train him to protect the rabbit and not eat it, but it’s working against its nature.

You see, to me companies are not ethical entities. They’re tools, and tools aren’t ethical beings. You have to control them, or they’ll cut your arm off, because they’re tools and that’s what they do.

You see? It doesn’t mean I think companies are evil, because I don’t think you can apply human standards to a tool.

If a company does an evil thing, it’s because one or more humans did something bad to further the profits of the company, for the benefit of the owners. The person(s) deserve punishment, and the owners who chose the person(s) deserve at least SOME punishment as well, above and beyond simply losing money. If I own a gun, and loan it to someone who shoots people with it, my punishment should extend beyond simply not getting the gun back.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 3:20:46pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

The cant is just exhausting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 3:20:47pm

re: #199 BlueSpotinAL

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 3:22:51pm

re: #178 KGxvi

There’s a few questions where I’m sort of “meh” on the choice and would have preferred a “no opinion” or “neither agree nor disagree”, which probably explains the some of the difference.

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

It’s interesting that most of us fall in about the same range on economic issues. In my case, this reflects my admiration for regulated/capitalist European economies like Sweden and Norway. These demonstrate that heavy investment in human potential yields profit for all. Right wing social darwinists in the US, ie Republicans, seem not to realize that these “socialist” economies have been that way only since shortly after the end of World War II. The same is true for the UK, which still had food rationing and horse drawn milk wagons when I was born there in 1949, and is now rapidly leaving us behind in standard of living. In the meantime the US stagnates and slides backward.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:23:01pm

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah, but my belief is that’s like leaving a hungry wolf alone with a rabbit and expecting to find both alive in the morning. The wolf will eat the rabbit, because he’s a wolf and that’s what wolves do. You might, if you started when the wolf was young, train him to protect the rabbit and not eat it, but it’s working against its nature.

You see, to me companies are not ethical entities. They’re tools, and tools aren’t ethical beings. You have to control them, or they’ll cut your arm off, because they’re tools and that’s what they do.

You see? It doesn’t mean I think companies are evil, because I don’t think you can apply human standards to a tool.

If a company does an evil thing, it’s because one or more humans did something bad to further the profits of the company, for the benefit of the owners. The person(s) deserve punishment, and the owners who chose the person(s) deserve at least SOME punishment as well, above and beyond simply losing money. If I own a gun, and loan it to someone who shoots people with it, my punishment should extend beyond simply not getting the gun back.

That too.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:23:50pm

re: #205 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

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It’s interesting that most of us fall in about the same range on economic issues. In my case, this reflects my admiration for regulated/capitalist European economies like Sweden and Norway. These demonstrate that heavy investment in human potential yields profit for all. Right wing social darwinists in the US, ie Republicans, seem not to realize that these “socialist” economies have been that way only since shortly after the end of World War II. The same is true for the UK, which still had food rationing and horse drawn milk wagons when I was born there in 1949, and is now rapidly leaving us behind in standard of living. In the meantime the US stagnates and slides backward.

Yeah we all seem to be in the same area. As for Europe, I definitely think we can take lessons from them. It’s prosperous to think we can’t especially when we lag behind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 3:24:27pm
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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 3:28:12pm

re: #176 jaunte

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Gosh. Did you know Jehovah’s Witnesses have a religious objection to transfusions? But let’s let them do surgery anyway, if a bunch of patients bleed out so be it.

Christian Scientists have a religious objection to antibiotics, insulin, beta-blockers, and a bunch more kinds of medication. How dare the rural clinic that can only afford one primary care physician not give them a job.

If a Catholic doctor at a Jewish hospital refuses to comply with institutional policy regarding abortions, he’s protected because His Conscience.
If a Jewish doctor at a Catholic hospital refuses to comply with institutional policy regarding abortions, how dare he think he should retain privileges.

Is it Hindus who are strict vegetarians? What if he’s a supermarket checkout clerk and refuses to ring up my lamb chops? “Meat is murder, I cannot be complicit in your immoral consumption of flesh.” How long is he going to keep his job?

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 3:29:51pm

re: #209 sagehen

The conservative Christian judge will decide.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 3:31:16pm

re: #179 EPR-radar

We have GOP precedent to the effect that a sitting president can be questioned under oath, using a subpoena if needed, in a special prosecutor investigation.

So why didn’t this happen in this case? I find it impossible to believe that Mueller thought Trump’s written answers were so good there was no need to follow up on them.

Therefore this part of the investigation was kneecapped by the political appointees — some combination of Rosenstein and Barr.

Mueller said he didn’t push as hard as he could for some personal interviews, because the subpoenas would be contested and it would take many months to get through the court challenges before he’d finally get to question Trump or his kids; he felt getting the report out ASAP was more important than having it be as thorough as possible.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 3:32:12pm

re: #205 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

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It’s interesting that most of us fall in about the same range on economic issues. In my case, this reflects my admiration for regulated/capitalist European economies like Sweden and Norway. These demonstrate that heavy investment in human potential yields profit for all. Right wing social darwinists in the US, ie Republicans, seem not to realize that these “socialist” economies have been that way only since shortly after the end of World War II. The same is true for the UK, which still had food rationing and horse drawn milk wagons when I was born there in 1949, and is now rapidly leaving us behind in standard of living. In the meantime the US stagnates and slides backward.

The ignorance many on the Right about the degree to which our economy has worked because our economy is mixed is best indicated by the person who said that the Government “unleashed” corporations during WWII, when in fact it did the polar opposite - told companies what they would make, and bought all of it. The economy has never been as controlled as it was then, but some on the Right believe the opposite.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:33:35pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Boom. And she’s right.

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Old Liberal  May 2, 2019 • 3:34:00pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m actually amazed he got through two tweets without mentioning himself.

He said god

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:34:34pm

re: #209 sagehen

Gosh. Did you know Jehovah’s Witnesses have a religious objection to transfusions? But let’s let them do surgery anyway, if a bunch of patients bleed out so be it.

Christian Scientists have a religious objection to antibiotics, insulin, beta-blockers, and a bunch more kinds of medication. How dare the rural clinic that can only afford one primary care physician not give them a job.

If a Catholic doctor at a Jewish hospital refuses to comply with institutional policy regarding abortions, he’s protected because His Conscience.
If a Jewish doctor at a Catholic hospital refuses to comply with institutional policy regarding abortions, how dare he think he should retain privileges.

Is it Hindus who are strict vegetarians? What if he’s a supermarket checkout clerk and refuses to ring up my lamb chops? “Meat is murder, I cannot be complicit in your immoral consumption of flesh.” How long is he going to keep his job?

Exactly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 3:38:40pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 3:39:30pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The cat is officially among the pigeons.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2019 • 3:39:56pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:40:12pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

The ignorance many on the Right about the degree to which our economy has worked because our economy is mixed is best indicated by the person who said that the Government “unleashed” corporations during WWII, when in fact it did the polar opposite - told companies what they would make, and bought all of it. The economy has never been as controlled as it was then, but some on the Right believe the opposite.

And then imo you have the left who I think ignore why FDR was able to govern from the economic left in a way Clinton or Obama could not. I think both could have governed more from the economic left for what it’s worth too but New Deal governance isn’t happening.

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sagehen  May 2, 2019 • 3:40:34pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

The ignorance many on the Right about the degree to which our economy has worked because our economy is mixed is best indicated by the person who said that the Government “unleashed” corporations during WWII, when in fact it did the polar opposite - told companies what they would make, and bought all of it. The economy has never been as controlled as it was then, but some on the Right believe the opposite.

The government in WWII was also pretty damn vehement about price-fixing for the all.of.it. they were buying.

Harry Truman went from obscure back-bencher to national figure by chairing the committee that sent a bunch of factory owners to prison for war profiteering.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 2, 2019 • 3:42:15pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

About damn time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 3:43:00pm
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EPR-radar  May 2, 2019 • 3:43:13pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

The cat is officially among the pigeons.

Barr is just a side show. Sure it would be good to grill his lying ass in House hearings, but what Mueller says will be much more significant.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:43:30pm

re: #220 sagehen

The government in WWII was also pretty damn vehement about price-fixing for the all.of.it. they were buying.

Harry Truman went from obscure back-bencher to national figure by chairing the committee that sent a bunch of factory owners to prison for war profiteering.

Yep it’s how he got the DNC’s attention. Personally they did the right thing replacing Henry Wallace with Truman. McCarthyism would have been even worse had you had Wallace.

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plansbandc  May 2, 2019 • 3:43:57pm

re: #27 Blind Frog Belly White

I think she’s sorry she doesn’t get money and attention in the white circles anymore. And she’s about as genuine as her eyebrows.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:44:03pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hungary eh? I bet he made a lot of fascist friends there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 3:48:01pm

re: #225 plansbandc

I think she’s sorry she doesn’t get money and attention in the white circles anymore. And she’s about as genuine as her eyebrows.

The realization that “Fired by Breitbart for being too extreme” is NOT a good line on a resume.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 2, 2019 • 3:50:21pm

Just posted this - it may have already been worked over, but I can’t resist the schadenfreude over seeing shitlords like Alex Jones, Laura Loomer, Paul Joseph Watson et al. getting banned by Facebook and Instagram.

Had to page this because: de-platforming works!

Here’s some of the charming free speech they want to continue to use social media platforms to spread:

right-wing meme pages such as @the_typical_liberal and @unclesamsmisguidedchildren share Infowars content via IGTV, Instagram’s long-form-video hub. @the_typical_liberal has posted several videos and images claiming proof that the Christchurch, New Zealand, shooting was a “false flag.” Other Instagram accounts suggested by the platform falsely claim that Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey is secretly connected to the Clintons, who feed baby blood to George Soros, and that a new bill would “engrave Planned Parenthood’s abortion number” onto the back of all student-ID cards for girls over the age of 12.

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William Lewis  May 2, 2019 • 3:50:56pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Wow we’re not that far apart: I’m honestly surprised that I’m slightly to your right on economics.
Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36

About the same as the last time I took that test. It’s way too simplistic to mean much but yeah, hard left social democrat is me.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 3:51:45pm

re: #229 William Lewis

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36

About the same as the last time I took that test. It’s way too simplistic to mean much but yeah, hard left social democrat is me.

Yeah it’s all in fun.

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2019 • 3:56:13pm

Has Loomer handcuffed herself yet to Facebook’s HQ?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2019 • 3:57:52pm

I’m really stoked to see Mueller testify.

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2019 • 4:00:34pm

:(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 4:01:15pm

re: #233 Dr. Matt

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 2, 2019 • 4:02:00pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

She’s still got a lot to learn but that article was very insightful to what the culture is at Breitbart. Bannon is a fucking monster encouraging the worst in people and it of course predated him. Andrew Breitbart was like that too. I feel bad for his family they lost their loved one but he’s not missed as a political talking head.

Rick Wilson is enjoying today:

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 4:02:41pm

re: #235 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Rick Wilson is enjoying today:

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Ha ha.

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2019 • 4:07:48pm

re: #23 makeitstop

Rick Wilson’s short thread on Katie McHugh…

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As far as she’s concerned, I’m on Team ‘Womp womp, idiot.’

I read the entire story and I don’t feel sorry for her. She choose this path just like the countless other hateful Nazi-loving Donnie cultists. These people couldn’t get real jobs. They can’t contribute anything meaningful to society. So, their only path in life is to “pwn the libs”. Fuck you, Katie, I say and the rest of your Nazi friends.

Here are some of her “greatest hits”: rawstory.com

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 2, 2019 • 4:11:34pm

re: #237 Dr. Matt

Remember to them the liberals are all bleeding hearts who will forgive all immediately and not hold any past or ancestry against you.

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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2019 • 4:14:07pm

re: #238 Feline Fearless Leader

Remember to them the liberals are all bleeding hearts who will forgive all immediately and not hold any past or ancestry against you.

Not this liberal. Those days are long gone. Literally and figuratively, Nazis should be punched in the face.

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allegro  May 2, 2019 • 4:15:10pm

re: #176 jaunte

Wow. Looks like we’re going to have to interview all potential healthcare professionals we have need to consult. Questions:

Do I offend you in any way? Too old/young, fat/thin, melanin content, American/immigrant…

Really, anything at all? Think good now, take your time…

Last question:

Will you competently treat me and save my life if necessary? If yes, here’s a form, I brought a notary and a lawyer, sign here.

Is it coming to this?

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A Three Hour Tour  May 2, 2019 • 4:17:40pm

re: #229 William Lewis

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36

About the same as the last time I took that test. It’s way too simplistic to mean much but yeah, hard left social democrat is me.

For me:
Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21

But my publicly vocal opposition to Bernie and the Bros makes me a “neoliberal corporate shill” to friends of friends.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 4:17:46pm

re: #224 HappyWarrior

Yep it’s how he got the DNC’s attention. Personally they did the right thing replacing Henry Wallace with Truman. McCarthyism would have been even worse had you had Wallace.

Probably quite true. If Wallace had become President when Roosevelt died in 1945, it would be really likely (among other eventualities) that he would have been soundly defeated by Thomas Dewey in 1948. Which would likely have meant an Administration probably dominated by the hardcore old-line-isolationist wing of the GOP. Who would have probably gone all-in on Tailgunner Joe’s red-baiting from a position of power, rather than opposition. Not a pleasant scenario.

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2019 • 4:18:19pm
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Dr. Matt  May 2, 2019 • 4:18:29pm

re: #176 jaunte

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Just wait until a medical provider denies care to someone because they vote Republican. The law of unintended consequences.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 4:18:43pm

Okay, so he’ll accept Milo, and Alex Jones, but Farraknan is a bridge too far.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2019 • 4:18:47pm

re: #239 Dr. Matt

Not this liberal. Those days are long gone. Literally and figuratively, Nazis should be punched in the face.

I will take that in more in the figurative sense.

But what we must not do is to begin to see fascism or white supremacism as any sort of acceptable points along the political spectrum or see these people as individuals with ideas that must be respected and treated as anything but anathema to everything America stands for, and as a threat to our very freedoms and values.

If that involves an occasional punch in the face, then that is simply a necessary act of self-defense for our nation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 4:21:28pm

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

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She and Katie McHugh can do a podcast.
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 2, 2019 • 4:23:23pm

re: #239 Dr. Matt

Not this liberal. Those days are long gone. Literally and figuratively, Nazis should be punched in the face.

Oh fuck yeah.

It is ALWAYS the right time to punch Nazis. Always.
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2019 • 4:26:48pm

Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
politicalcompass.org
Some of the questions were a tad ambiguous/poorly worded.

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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2019 • 4:27:50pm

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

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Too extreme? I can’t put a finger on it….

ETA: thinking about it, yeah—too extreme.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 2, 2019 • 4:29:13pm

The actor who plays Syrio Florel on GoT has some words for the RWNJs trying to use him in a meme to attack “socialism” (ie anything to the left of the Divine Right Of Kings and Prima Nocte):

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 4:30:41pm

Not linking to the article, you can find it yourself if you want to read it. I want those 20 minutes of my life back. Buzzfeed should be ashamed of themselves for publishing such a garbage hagiography of a literal American Nazi.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 4:32:00pm

RIP Peter Mayhew

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BlueGrl21  May 2, 2019 • 4:35:46pm

re: #249 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
politicalcompass.org
Some of the questions were a tad ambiguous/poorly worded.

I am right in the center of everything, which makes sense because, “it depends” was my answer to most of them.

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Old Liberal  May 2, 2019 • 4:36:37pm

re: #240 allegro

Wow. Looks like we’re going to have to interview all potential healthcare professionals we have need to consult. Questions:

Do I offend you in any way? Too old/young, fat/thin, melanin content, American/immigrant…

Really, anything at all? Think good now, take your time…

Last question:

Will you competently treat me and save my life if necessary? If yes, here’s a form, I brought a notary and a lawyer, sign here.

Is it coming to this?

Need to do it for the pharmacist

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 4:37:06pm

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

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Oh Charlie finally discovered that Hitler between 1933-1939 wasn’t making Germany great again. Candece can fo but TPUSA’s problems go beyond Owens.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 4:38:38pm

re: #252 teleskiguy

I had already linked to the article, because I think it is an excellent expose of how the Trumpkin Right, and the white nationalist movement in particular, prey on lonely losers whom they radicalize by providing the group identity and validation they desperately desire, while encouraging them to ever greater excess, then discard them like used condoms when they become more useful as exiles, allowing the movement to say, “See? We’re not THAT bad!”

Also interesting was how she got involved in Chuck Johnson’s schemes till even he wouldn’t have her anymore.

Plus there’s the whole, “Hey, look! There really ARE permanent consequences for being a hateful racist shitbag!” angle.

But, YMMV, always.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 4:39:24pm

Lre: #242 Jay C

Probably quite true. If Wallace had become President when Roosevelt died in 1945, it would be really likely (among other eventualities) that he would have been soundly defeated by Thomas Dewey in 1948. Which would likely have meant an Administration probably dominated by the hardcore old-line-isolationist wing of the GOP. Who would have probably gone all-in on Tailgunner Joe’s red-baiting from a position of power, rather than opposition. Not a pleasant scenario.

Yep. I do wish Truman had chosen a younger running mate. There’s a lot I admire about Truman but outside Marshall, his delegation skills were weak compared to FDR and other Democrats.

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2019 • 4:40:18pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 4:41:06pm

I think she’s finally discovered these guys are scum. It’s not my place to forgive her. Straight white guys like me weren’t her targets but she has a lot of growing up to do.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 4:42:17pm

I’m listening to Jared Kushner on his mid-east peace plan. Wow, he knows less about the situation than I do. Sad. Nothing will happen.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 4:42:29pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

I think she’s finally discovered these guys are scum. It’s not my place to forgive her. Straight white guys like me weren’t her targets but she has a lot of growing up to do.

Now she needs to realize the same about herself, for which her ‘I take responsibility for my posts’ is really weak tea.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2019 • 4:43:23pm

re: #261 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I’m listening to Jared Kushner on his mid-east peace plan. Wow, he knows less about the situation than I do. Sad. Nothing will happen.

1) One State Solution

2) ?

3) Peace!

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EPR-radar  May 2, 2019 • 4:43:37pm

re: #261 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

I’m listening to Jared Kushner on his mid-east peace plan. Wow, he knows less about the situation than I do. Sad. Nothing will happen.

What’s the condensed version of this? My guess would be something like ‘unconditional Palestinian surrender will lead to peace.’

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2019 • 4:44:03pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 4:44:30pm

re: #257 Blind Frog Belly White

I had already linked to the article, because I think it is an excellent expose of how the Trumpkin Right, and the white nationalist movement in particular, prey on lonely losers whom they radicalize by providing the group identity and validation they desperately desire, while encouraging them to ever greater excess, then discard them like used condoms when they become more useful as exiles, allowing the movement to say, “See? We’re not THAT bad!”

Also interesting was how she got involved in Chuck Johnson’s schemes till even he wouldn’t have her anymore.

Plus there’s the whole, “Hey, look! There really ARE permanent consequences for being a hateful racist shitbag!” angle.

But, YMMV, always.

To me, it was very informative about the culture there. I didn’t see it as a hagiographic portrait of McHugh personally. That said I am not feeling too sympathetic to her either. The postings were from four years ago. I’m glad she’s no longer involved but she’s got to growing up to.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 4:44:57pm

re: #264 EPR-radar

What’s the condensed version of this? My guess would be something like ‘unconditional Palestinian surrender will lead to peace.’

It’s all a secret until he rolls it out. he’s got nothing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 4:44:59pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 4:45:55pm

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

Now she needs to realize the same about herself, for which her ‘I take responsibility for my posts’ is really weak tea.

Yep. She should do what I’ve seen former Neo Nazis do and that’s try to make amends to those they hurt. As I said I wasn’t a target of hers but African Americans, Native Americans, & others were.

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2019 • 4:46:32pm

This cannot be said enough.

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Jay C  May 2, 2019 • 4:47:40pm

re: #254 BlueGrl21

I am right in the center of everything, which makes sense because, “it depends” was my answer to most of them.

True this. Though better right IN the center than right OF center, I suppose…..
But yeah: the four-choice answer format isn’t all that subtle. FWIW, I scored at:

Economic Left/Right: - 4.75
Social Libertarian/Auth. - 5.95

Which puts me right near the middle of the bottom left-hand quadrant of the chart. Which I guess places me, politically, as the guy with the top hat and musket on the left of Delacroix’s Liberty Leading the People….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2019 • 4:48:14pm
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 4:48:39pm

re: #270 Patricia Kayden

This cannot be said enough.

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But JFK would be a conservative today.///

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 4:48:57pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Boom!

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 2, 2019 • 4:57:19pm

-6.5 and -7.8

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TedStriker  May 2, 2019 • 4:58:28pm

re: #248 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Oh fuck yeah.

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When it comes to Nazis, to quote Ben Grimm of the Fantastic Four, it’s always “clobberin’ time”.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 5:02:21pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Not once. Not fucking once! Did she ever apologize to the people she hurt in that article. She’s sorry she’s not making money being a racist shitbag, not for being a racist shitbag.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:07:00pm

re: #277 teleskiguy

Not once. Not fucking once! Did she ever apologize to the people she hurt in that article. She’s sorry she’s not making money being a racist shitbag, not for being a racist shitbag.

That’s what I’m saying man. That’s why I’m not taking her seriously. I’m glad she’s still not doing it but I’m not sympathetic either.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 5:09:14pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

She’ll go back to her old racist shitbag ways a la Glenn Beck. Cat is in the bag and the bag is in the river.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:11:11pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

She’ll go back to her old racist shitbag ways a la Glenn Beck. Cat is in the bag and the bag is in the river.

I hope you’re wrong. I’m not disagreeing with your take. I’m just saying she should be apologizing to those groups she went after rather than what we’re seeing here. You’re right about Beck though. He’s still the same shithead he’s always been and I wouldn’t be shocked if she returns to her old ways.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:13:39pm

Anyhow. You don’t go from being an alt right shithead to a decent person just like that.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 5:14:01pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

“Brown people are savage animals.” She tweeted bullshit like that *for years.* No walking that back. Beyond redemption. Fuck her. No quarter.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:16:55pm

re: #282 teleskiguy

“Brown people are savage animals.” She tweeted bullshit like that *for years.* No walking that back. Beyond redemption. Fuck her. No quarter.

I happen to agree. You don’t tweet shit like that and then do one interview and think that clears you. That said, I do think some redemption is possible but it’s going to take actions and not words. She still has a lot of growing up to do from what I gathered from the article. She still thinks a lot of what her and her old pals did was just “jokes.” We’re on the same page about her.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2019 • 5:36:51pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Wow we’re not that far apart: I’m honestly surprised that I’m slightly to your right on economics.
Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

Here is mine:

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2019 • 5:37:56pm

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

Here is mine:

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Cool deal. SW is the place to be.


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